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Hard Work, Struggle, Progress

THE BRENDON SHOW

08:55 min | 10 months ago

Hard Work, Struggle, Progress

"It's it's Brendon Burchard and welcome to a special episode of the Brennan. Show where we jump into some of the best of my motivational quotes. Hey my friends. It's Brennan and welcome to your weekly roundup of my sixty sixty second motivational quotes that I posted on instagram and other social media. We thought we'd compile them here for you to give you some motivational fire for your week. So let's go good his like the worst thing realize and the best thing to realize no one is going to stand up and hand you a plate of Progress Congress in life you guys you must make progress by your own sheer will discipline and efforts every day. The progress comes from you. It's not other people doing you a favor. It's not other people giving you a hand up. It's not other people opening doors. The some of those things might happen for you but those are things you can control as much as you think and so what you have to do is move yourself. Ford get your skills honed in develop improve add tremendous tremendous value everywhere that you go and then hey look doors open but I your intention to take initiative and move with the needle forward yourself because you know what the world loves to reward momentum work ethic value so trust that you can do this and get out of my friends. It's not selfish to want to be happier and have a better lifestyle. Those who judge you now for striving. We'll thank you later for succeeding. Yeah they're going to be upset that you're working harder. Yes they're going to be like. Who Do you think you are? That's a big dream. Can you really handle it. I'm worried about you. Seem like you're changing. But you know what you changing and you worrying about your future and wanting to grow into a better person and to give more and they become more and to contribute more in skilled up. That's okay. Hey that is not selfish. That is being in service to your full potential. That is being in service to the gifts. You've given by God. That is being in service to the truth that your future is going to be extraordinary but you have to work for it. It's in service. That feeling inside says hey is time time to change. It's time to become better better time to have more be more contribute more. And as you do that some people might judge it but once you have that success and they see it your role model sometimes the biggest decisions the boldest decisions happen when you realize. There's nothing wrong with quitting. What's not right and starting over? Oh you're wiser now and you'll figure things out the last time you wanted to quit something. It was terribly scary you because you were younger or there was a tremendous amount of uncertainty right in front of that decision. And that's probably today too. You know if you quit something yeah eat. There's an unknown tomorrow but you are wiser now. You have come further now. Oh you have proven that you'll figure things out yet. Might not be perfect if you quit right now but you figure things out. I know it's hard to quit because sometimes you have this sense of obligation. Listen to what is current right now for a lot of people. They miss place their loyalty. Sometimes they don't realize what is here right now isn't the best. They don't realize what is here right now is something. That's really a false obligation. They could move on and that they'll figure that out. Sometimes you got to quit and start over and you'll figure figuring out listen to this one. Our greatest personal power is the ability to take over our impulses and direct our minds two choices choices and commitments. That will serve us. Yes I know I know but listen. How many times do you let your impulse to? Hey I just don't feel like doing it right now. Ruin your progress. How many times you're like your mind? Says don't watch this next three seasons of this thing on net flicks but you do you anyway even though you have been to do list and dreams to follow and that's an issue is that sometimes we just don't feel like it. We don't feel like going to work. We don't feel the getting things done. We don't feel like being kind or we've all the impulses to be rude the impulses to say something or do something we know we shouldn't do. And maturity comes terms with the fact that we realize that we can stop that process that we don't have to be slave to our own impulses that we can use the power remind to direct our actions and in fact what we must. Do you ever hear that advice that you need a whole new peer-group and your peer group determines your net worth and you need to all these people around to support support you and you need to build this huge network to succeed. I think that's a really good advice. Of course if we could all have an amazing super successful community around us at all time cheering us. It's on opening doors for us. That would be wonderful but a lot of people say well I don't have that. And so they stop. And I'm here to tell you to make a difference in your life. You don't need dozens. Dozens of new friends or acquaintances or networking. You need one more positive person who brings out the best in you and look. That's one great a new friend or one great friend who just talk with more. That's getting a coach or one new mentor or one new community member who might know other people who'd open the doors for for you so just start with one stop worrying about having dozens and dozens you out of that as you go throughout your career for now. Start with one. Listen the work is what makes you deserving of success your output your creativity your contribution like the literally the things that you produce create show to the world. That's what makes you deserving of success your mind how you are and what you're like that doesn't make you necessarily deserving of external successes. It's what you output. It's showing up. It's doing the hard work. Look the work. DOC will make you deserving the belief will make you feel worthy. Yeah people think I got it all figured out. Because I'm the IPHONE IS HABITS Guy Right. You're the former but I still struggle with a lot of things. The things that really bother me that I just like to strive joyfully. I'm always striving for bigger better things and so often I got my head down superintendent going at it and sometimes when you're striving really hard you can be disappointed appointed discouraged so I'm trying to strive joyfully. I also struggled a faced difficulty gracefully because sometimes when difficulty comes up I get angry agree. I get frustrated. I feel like it shouldn't be happening and I don't accept what's happening. You know sometimes as faithfully or gracefully as I could and and also to serve without complaint you know the number of hours the number of projects the number of things we do to maintain our community and provide value to the world and run our teams and brands and businesses. Mrs It's intense but if you have this opportunity to serve you don't complain about the effort involved. Okay my friends. I hope you enjoy this motivational session. Here on the Brendan Show and listen. Please do yourself a favor. If you like this type goofing. Imagine spending two hours of training with me live every month where I get to mentor. You on how you can reach your highest levels of performance and potential in every single thing you do in your life. That program is called high performance. Mentoring and you. You can go to Brendan Dot com forward slash monthly to join that program. That's Brennan Dot Com for slash monthly. And you can join our high for. It's a mentoring program. 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iPhone SE 2, an end to robocalls, and Jimmy Iovine's thoughts on streaming

AppleInsider Podcast

1:00:57 hr | 9 months ago

iPhone SE 2, an end to robocalls, and Jimmy Iovine's thoughts on streaming

"You're listening to the apple insider. podcast welcome to this episode of the Apple Apple Insider podcast. I'm Victor and joining me. Is Sean Ryan. Hi Victor. Hi thanks for having me glad. Happy New Year Victor from the side of the world I know he probably got New Year. A couple of years. A couple of hours later rotates late. But we didn't miss out. That's what Kendall definitely not so there are some things north. This this is the end of the year normally would slow time. But there's a lot Oh things to talk about. Today there is lots of happening. You know you and I had talked about preparing for things like urine review and maybe that would fill time and things. He's like this but I also don't think we need to do that so much. So quickly what do you think were the highlights of two thousand Nineteen O highlights of two thousand and nineteen in the world world. I would see Catalina airports pro and I going gave Apple TV. Even though I have some misgivings about apple. TV We might discuss this later on. I'll give apple. TV good comes up so far interesting. I want to hear about your skills. In a moment I was thinking about the Mac pro affected one end. Well I mean it's it's hard to deny because they've been teasing it for how many two years right this is. This has been a project that's been well known for some time where they just came out and told John Gruber. Yeah we're doing it and what we're doing it yet and even elected back if you go back to like watch march when they kind of give us a May actually when they give us a preview of and and Even though they told us a couple of years ago it was the first visual preview. We got in. May I think I think it's one of these things things where it we've seen and I said this the last time I said we've seen apple used the word professional or pro to apply to a lot of different things but here it shows that they still remember what pros are. What protests are pros require yet and this truly does refer to the professional people? It's not a machine far your normal person at home with like just as a desktop in the house this is truly professional that has to be seen in that light. Anyway yeah absolutely so tell me about your misgivings about apple. TV Plus Okay Right. I'm going to give. The show is that I watched so far. There are some absolutely excellent shows like the morning. Show giving a big tomes observant brilliant. See Not so much. I'm kind of kind of common and going on that. But in total I think launch aeneas with just maybe ten sure it was it was a ten or ten shows they launched launched when when it came out and diverge a few cents as a streaming service when you compare it to others then the content is severely lacking its. I think they've missed out. And and the interface anyway where you have the apple. TV plus shows intermixed with stuff that that you might have to buy. So I know certain people have different people in my family who will go into it and they. They're still having trouble kinda going. Oh I can't watch this or why do I have to buy this. Because custer arena system that they think subscription to but yet it's offering them more stuff inside and it that they have to buy and I think this lack of content i. I was talking with one of my colleagues at work recently and I kind of said it's like launching a music streaming service. That doesn't have anything. It's I it except I something that you've created yourself. You've got your own ten albums and you launch streaming service like if you look at spotify or even amusing everything they've a vast asked array of content. If you look at Netflix you look at Amazon prime vast array of content but with the Apple. TV You've got justice shows that they've created and and I think that was the that was a mistake on their guard. I I know they are looking at acquiring external content but I think it should have been there from day one. This is very interesting unit. Actually actually dovetails with some comments from Jimmy having that we'll talk about later but the the point is that for years net flicks. I mean my side of this. This is that for years. Net flicks launched without any original content. Yes that was all syndicated stuff that they bought in licensed and Amazon prime had many things that were prime and some things that you had to pay for and it was all mixed in and so you had to decide. What was your watching figured out if it was something you had to pay for or not and only later launched prime originals and still had stuff mixed in that you had to to figure out if you're paying for it or not so more similar to where apple TV pluses but when when viewing the apple TV plus menus? I agree it's a little confusing but there is not on the what to watch row but there is an apple. TD CD plus row where you see. Just their shows correctly but it's easy to get off of that track end and easy to move things that do ask you to pay. Yeah that's the. That's the confusing part for some people and also it's just if like I know they're giving this free subscription. If you've got a new device peapod Baden device. Recently we have got a year and maybe that was thinking departure decision making and giving the years freeze because they realized we don't have the deal is done the syndicate our content. Yes so maybe. That's that kind of drove that side of things but I still think that they should have. There should be a few deals done before this by now. They had time to get that done. Well I don't know if they're even going to do. Those syndicated deals what if they just launch with original content and are building the content over time and they've just had to lay the groundwork it'll take a long time for them to get that content and I think longtime one of the things that they're doing that's a little bit differently is that they you are choosing not to distribute in binge-watch format. They don't drop season all at once. They're doing it weekly and this is. This is one of the things that Netflix has had to grapple with and that Amazon prime is up to grapple with which is when you drop things all at once. It's people tend to watch all at once and then you don't build any chance for discussion or community around. Show your way like the the excitement of what's coming next week. It takes away from US just talking with colleagues at work right if you're at work and discussing shows with them. How do you know that they're in the same places? You are not the yeah. Yeah because they're if you've been washed ten episodes. They've only gotten five. Then you're talking to your caveat. Everything spoiler alert better than you. Just don't talk about a write it but but weekly you can talk about what happened on the last episode. So there's there's definitely something to this. I think with as many shows as they're renewing in as many shows as they're talking about launching that it's going to continue to work for them and I also think that if they continue to give away the year free subscription option based on purchase a product that they'll continue to build an audience for it are they defecate most definitely will and I kinda wondering during if come next year like I've got my years free subscription now. I'm thinking next year. If I buy another device closer to my renewal time will get another. You're you're with us our to becoming paying member that stage. It's it's an interesting question and I. I hope that they entirely possible. That don't but you know you need to have a family model. The same way that they have a family early model for Apple Music you need to have a A way for people to keep going and building subscription numbers for them. And even if those aren't paid subs they still need to keep boosting and by allowing the free subscription for device that certainly works for Disney the same thing right Disney plus with the Mandolin. They in the. US have partnered with verizon so that every subscriber gets free subscription for a year. Yeah in over here. In Ireland air have partnered with Amazon now is about so if you get your broadband in your TV subscriptions you'll hear you get your uh-huh on prime video for a year as well so they all seem to be going longest model of bundling with the with the carriers traditional carriers yet and even when they're not Disney plus ESPN ESPN and Hulu plus. All the Bundle is twelve ninety nine a month I actually think and I know William Actually I think William wrote an article on apple insider dot com about this was about the the the the idea of a premium subscription would apple whereby you get everything bundled together We've talked about the idea the end it hasn't come to pass but it it would be intriguing right. You know if you had up music television and Apple Arcade for example the news plus maybe as well yeah yeah everything all and good. I cloud subscription then storage subscription. All in one I gopher outrage has yet to has one where apple has still seems behind on picking up on price and and storage storage value. Right what the right ratio is for price per store and my hope is that that changes especially with the security of storage. It's part of home kit yet. They do need to review the whole lot in. It may be as part of the rumors out there about this coming. This premium subscription description going All in one and I think they would have to do that. As part of it is to just go with a completion on a review of every aspect of it but if the the prices rise might be the first to jump onto. I think one of the things that happens is that these services are all coming from so many different groups at apple that it may be difficult for them to put their heads together. I usually go to Britain starts. Maybe A B. But it's it's one of those things that I remain a little skeptical of with you know this. This kind of direction is GonNa come from someone like fill that is. That's how this is going to have to happen if it's going to happen because otherwise it's it's uh too many divided heads. Yeah Yeah Okay so anything else in two thousand nineteen that was high on the list for you know nothing. We didn't really discuss much about the Mac pro there here beside being the far pros. It's it's big. It's fast it's capable. It's got tons of slots. It does stuff superfast especially if you're doing Apples formats and have the after. Burn card installed now. If you don't take advantage the after burner card you can make the fans spin up and make things take atrocious numbers of hours. But it's it's designed around a couple of different workflows. I think it's not to think about after I think for people in the industry the required one of these. It's a game changer for them. And it's going to be a massive time and money saver for everybody in that industry. You know the one thing we didn't mention was the two thousand in nineteen sixteen inch macbook. Pro Actually Yeah. I haven't actually used one of these. But by what they've done what is it. Looks like they got this right. I think they really did get this right. The screen size everything. It looks like a perfect vice. So how quickly do you think. The keyboard migrate a great standard models. Within within the next three to four months. I would say really so. That's a complete new fresh on the thirteen inch inch complete refresh on the macbook air. Will we did have. We did have a refresh. I'm trying to think what Monte wasn't nineteen. It was a refresh on macbooks earlier in two thousand nineteen initiative and I would say simply because the the issues to hide with the keyboard. Well I think they're going to have to refresh on them. I think that comes down to supply chain which of course we know that Tim Cook is a master rough and it comes down to how many are in production how many are in the CH- the distribution chain and that the uh the relaunch will happen when those models are somewhat exhausted because they don't like having any use stock or any stock on hand no and that's one thing that he is as as you say he is the perfect he has I'd say I need. He's the king. Amish yeah I silting. It'll it'll happen as fast as they can make up an interesting. Well we will wait and find out if that's okay and if it is your lunch okay perfect. Look who's buying the plane ticket. That's different problem. Okay we get around that anyways. So how many iphones are enough phones. Oh well if I was to look at the drawer in my desk here Tim O.. V. Phones that are there going back over the years That simply just get relegated or get reused or re purposed I would say twelve. Okay but how many to launch in one year do you suppose to launch one year. Okay his going by historical data and and what's happened over the last few years with apple I would say four iphones many years enough okay. And that makes sense if we look at things like iphone phone five where we had the five C launch in the same year or we look at the the the six se years that that sounds reasonable. But what if we had six different models total in two thousand twenty I okay my own personal view on that is it's too much. I actually think if you overload people with choice then. They're going to get confused and they're not going to know which one to buy. Yeah that's paralysis kind of thing. Yeah Yeah Yeah so six might be might be pushing okay. So let's let's think about what the numbers we're here right. There's there's the discussion of the possibility of to iphone. Se Models coming in twenty two hundred coming in twenty twenty. It's the iphone just to and that Okay so there are currently five well. How many old phones scheduled to be the whole lead phones and one? LCD Model among the IPHONE. Twelve line. Okay so so what we're going to have ended then adding onto that is the iphone. Se Too right so let. Let's name of if you've got the twelve okay. So so presume there's an Ol- added There's there's the LCD twelve. There's the twelve pro. There is the twelfth pro. Max Wchs Max and then there's a phone with five G. An okay. Yeah which is going to be the next above dash so we're we're assuming that the standard twelve will not have five gene at least one of the models of twelve will not. There's been some discussion that maybe be two of them do. But it's not precisely certain. which does arnold south of possibly the role models five G. so potentially okay on top of that then we have the iphone? Se Yup coming in as well This is too far. Yep which may just be called the iphone se because it's been discontinued model for some time. But so so here's the thing. There's there's these four main iphone models on the phone to off cycle. There's a four point seven inch LCD IPHONE SE to which meant to have a form factor similar to the iphone eight. But but there's also possibly an iphone. Se to that might be the iphone se two plus and that could be twenty twenty or the first half of twenty twenty one and that would be using a larger five point five or six point one inch full screen display but maybe touch ID over to the power button side. Okay and the way I view that is is that kind of not too much of an overlap with your entry level ever twelve. You're Kinda you're getting into the same screen screen size probably will be the same technology. LCD Not all that So I kind of think what why y bringing in something. That's so similar to the next one. Allow me to explain so the IPHONE. Se originally served to different audiences. Mrs It served one audience of people who wanted to have a smaller size screen at any cost because they liked the smaller form factor. But that's it's not who it was intended to sell to what it was intended to do was reuse existing technology because the iphone se was more or less part iphone. Six Part iphone success success and it was packaged into the IPHONE. Five Shell and the iphone se too and it was sold like that because packing that that technology into the smaller size case and reusing parts meant they could offer the lower price point and you're hitting the emerging markets than right so. There's been a lot of talk while the emerging markets the the less economically advantaged All all kinds of parts of that right the the quote that Tim Cook had at the time when they launched that model was that If they were going to be cannibalized they'd rather catalyzing selves. The electric tram and the the point to this model is very much to reach the price point because they've they've suffered criticism that price points are going higher price points going higher. Never mind that in the last episode to kind of pointed out that accepting the highest end devices that they were more or less the same that they crept up a little bit but a minivan crept back down overtime. Yes so the your entry entry-level iphone instill as cheap as was when you first got us as about the IPHONE. Six or success. Prices haven't gone up precipitously from that. The the iphone se to the should be lower priced. And because besides it's using an iphone eight screen and touch. Id which are of course things is that they have done for years now at affordable they know the cost of cost reduced those moves they can. It will have an eighth thirteen processor with about three gig of application Ram and They will add the glass. Back Design and the wireless charging support the iphone eight. But it's using basically the processor that we're using this year and the eight fourteen processor. That would be coming in twenty twenty well. That just doesn't make sense. Just in terms of scale production scaling stood third mixing production scale. But it's also position by not using the newest and fastest so as to cost reduced model and speaking of that the right to eight fourteen chip is ready to start production. And that's the chip. We're going to guess next well. Yeah so the fourteen chip. CMC is is ready to begin manufacturing actress chip. That's going to be used in that September phone or late. Twenty twenty phone starting in about the second quarter of two thousand twenty from a production point of view we it it would have to be raised in production now anyway because for for testing and all different quality control. It has to go through to make sure everything's ready for the launch man. Yeah I think it would have to be into introduction pretty soon and what's interesting about it is that it's going to be using using a five nanometer chip process. Explain that to me so well. So the the current phones that are out there are using seven nanometer process and of course in years past You know fifteen meters and things like that and basically by using the smaller other process you get a lot more logic density in the same out of space so the five nanometer process offers one point eight times logic density improvement and fifteen percent speed gain over the Senate seven nanometer process. So you're just GONNA pack a lot more interests. Yes as if it wasn't fast enough already. Oh come on you know you want more. We always want more. We always faster. You're definitely Each year apple. Really actually when you look at what they're doing with chip design and the increases that they've done they're so far ahead of the game over everybody else at the moment and this is GonNa take them fair but further again it is and we keep reshaped talking about the idea of an arm based Mac book of an a a series chip based Mac book and for Single Threat Power. They're already outstripping tripping Intel based MACs. It's just what the multi core that that it's not quite keeping up so it's interesting it's really interesting to me when we see the stuff could. Could this be the one that gets it nearly. They're Kinda it's too hard to Dr Jack. tweed been calling for some time and just saying that this is the one is a little difficult but TSMC is the sole supplier of these chips and as much as two thirds of their capacity is going to be used for making iphone. I phoned ships them in a bit of a precarious position. If they're relying on that much. It's an interesting position and we should talk about about this because remember magic technologies there. They were a British firm and they provided all of the jeep. You design For iphones for quite some time and in two thousand seventeen imagination announced that apple plan to stop using their IP in their hardware designs and by two thousand nineteen. The were heavily reliant on revenue from apple yet they almost their sole source of revenue. The busy just wipe them up pretty much. They were responsible for eighty one million in two thousand seventeen and apples. pull out the stock plummeted. They they struggle to stay alive. They entered the dispute resolution process. where the accused apple of unauthorized use of their IP They they ended up selling themselves to a China. Backed equity firm It's it's been very difficult for them. So it's interesting to note that imagination announced that they've got a A licensing saying with apple now. It's not clear what. Ip's involved but they they have an agreement in place according to imaginations website. It's To pay out licensing fees for multi year rights to a wider range of the British firms. Ip Yeah but it just means that overall. They're basically a shell of what they formerly were. Oh absolutely the power. VR is not the GPO depew inside the new iphone by any stretch and so apple can can make or break a company now. Obviously Apple's apple's not going to get rid of TSMC wholesale in the past they've used GMC and Samsung and run them side by side and that way if there was a difficulty in supply with one they could switch the other which was summitters they did with the Intel and qualcomm modems. Yes and actually the five G.. Modems are going to be qualcomm modems again. Yeah because then tell me about that Marcus. While until sold the group to apple by twenty twenty three or so we should start seeing apples modems Built into these things. Okay so if apple are going to go that way with their modems what say that. They don't do something similar to TSMC. You're like what what's stopping them from. Well so this is Steve. The A series chip is apple's Ip manufactured by TSMC Apple. It was a fabulous company. That is they don't own any fabrication plants for this themselves. They take their designs and have them produced by companies who do have fabs and this is a huge cost savings for apple in that they don't have to pay directly for all of the retooling change processes you looking back in history until and Damn D-. AMD was the competitor processor to Intel for many years and they were neck and neck for quite some time and end where they they sort of lost their way for a while was with the change to the smaller process because it was huge expense. Yeah one of the. They're starting to come Vacaville now are they are but one of the things that really kept amdi going in that time was their acquisition of at. I the graphics chips people. Yeah but we might see they might see. AMD coming on a game they are they are so you know for for years. There were people that want to see. AMD chips in Max instead of Intel. And that never came to pass Although it certainly could have at any time I mean can you imagine just as they prepared until Max when they were working on power. Pc they could have easily compiled for amd and house almost assuredly up. Oh I'm sure they hi to project running for a couple of years at the exact same thing. Yeah because we heard about that that they had the project running for a number of years before they announced the Intel MACs anyway anyway so if they had been running on dash couple years there is no doubt that they were running on. AMD At the same time as well. Yeah Apple likes to have dual suppliers because they don't want to be dependent on anyone point of failure and this was a lesson. They learned multiple times from both Motorola and IBM and in terms. MM supplying POWERPC chips where Motorola failed to supply new generation of G FOUR POWER PC. And we're IBM singularly failed to deliver a mobile version of the G.. Five and that's what led us to the Intel shift was because apple doesn't want to be dependent on anyone else's failings but when apple owns the technology and just doing it in house. They're also not dependent on anyone else's failings yet and starkly the in better. Well they we have been good about acquiring the talent they need to pull it off and say that and one of the questions that get asked from time the time is how do you learn things right how do you how do you go about becoming the kind of talent that you need to be to do. These sorts of things Own just searching Google. 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Now we're talking about single suppliers versus dual suppliers and things like that. There's a group called. dealie okay I haven't I hadn't heard about these onto you mentioned that earlier on so please enlighten me on this breath. We're learning here. That's what we're here for. We're learning. I'm learning from the best. Nice so you're you're learning from at least one who's present isn't I don't know about the best but China's eighty percent off that China's is set to become apples. second-largest led screen supplier in twenty twenty. One Okay we know. Let's let's back up there. You're going to become their second largest greenspan. Yep Okay to me okay to meet these guys have just come out of nowhere so where who's apple ordering from presently who'd who've been using some Samsung L. G. L. G.. Yeah Apple is reportedly planning planning to order all at screens during twenty twenty. Now we don't know if these are an initial test ron if they'll be used an iphone twelve or if they'll l. be used in well actually they would have to be used a knife on twelfth. They're they're They're all at screens so they wouldn't be production for se to or anything like that. This report comes from our PRN A and it says that reports in South Korean media. Say that the order will make me Joey the second largest supplier screens for the iphone. It says that Samsung will continue to make most panels with LG display dropping to third place now our PR has no real track record and reporting apple related rumors but These claims kind of line up with previous reports that we've heard of be always always ambitions to become an iphone. Oh let's manufacturer. Bill is not confined to apple though they they also supply to hallway and and we know that apple likes to diversify which manufacturers it uses. Yeah now they originally they. They use Samsung role displays. Originally because Samsung was the only game in town could supply them with the quality required correct and that was just about to ask as like if this company. You're kind. You've okay to me. They're coming coming out of nowhere and it's another case of apple making a company by by having announcing them as a supplier. Where is the resume on the quality control on this bosh at the same time? It's a big shift. It's a big step to take. I mean to be clear. Apple having announced against anyone as a supplier because apple never does. Yeah but but suppliers will sometimes lead on that they're doing yeah At apple is critically depend upon old screen. They just are. The whole product is based around having an L. A. Display. So yes. They need them. Yes this is a part that they aren't manufacturing themselves and therefore they need to have a dual supplier so that they aren't dependent upon one. Okay if Samsung is the sole supplier and Samsung decides they need to shift orders for Samsung Galaxy Twenties or whatever they are which is near the new Samsung Galaxy That could hurt. Apple Apple needs to not be dependent upon Samsung. Even even though that hasn't been how the spy relationship has worked Where we're apples placed orders? Samsung has happily sold them the parts down the fabrication for them even though they've competed on the actual end product. It's a risk not a big risk but a risk they added. LG Display and LG initially had real problems albums producing to the quality level. Yes I remember that at the time and it was the could they be going into something similar again here now. Well they I mean it's possible as you say we don't know what all the quality looks like Apple had been investing in Japan display. But it's only so many times you can bail out well ends. Japan display hasn't really pivoted to toll at yet they've they've been leading. LCD manufacturer but where's the role of production. Yeah non-existent thought so. This is a real problem but it comes down to the the you know. This is the the summary these three pieces. TSMC TSMC IMAGINATION and B. O.. E. Apple can be the kingmaker of you but at the same time if they they turn it off. Then we're where's your business you have to. If you're going to go down that road you have to be prepared to. I suppose be to their drum you have have to produce what they want. And if you don't I don't think you get a second bite at a cherry really. Well they do switch suppliers back and forth a little little bit. But if you've if you've really disappointed them than yeah probably takes you out of the running the DMZ devoting two thirds of their production to Apple Apple. I'm sure that sounds wonderful. Profit perspective and from a stock perspective for. TSMC scary to me. Yeah well I I. If it was me I would prefer to be given the Chinese to do it. Rather than never given the chance Vertigo version. See and I I have lived in this kind of thing in the past where so years and years and years ago I worked for a company that made products that worked with Mac and we were in the apple store and sixty percent of our business came from sales through the retail apple store and Sixty percent sixty percent and one day that turned off based on incision by Phil Schiller just stopped stocking products. And send it all back. Oh okay so affected that have how did that did showdown promptly. Yeah Wow okay boss. While he was running you had that deal in place Assume it was quite lucrative. It was it was very nice while it lasted but the problem is that no one prepares for when that had ends you. You're constantly working on how you grow or how you build the next thing. Not Not what are you going to do when this comes to an end yes right through. That is usually the focus. Yep Yeah no you have to be constantly focused on. What what you're going to do this bigger and better and more and not? How are we going to build a work? Chest survive rainy day and so when when that bad day comes that's shit. Yeah Yeah and I I is is detective preferred to have the shot at Vertu crack of the whip. All right. We talked a little bit about mobile. What what what are wireless providers like where you are Actually it hard into coverage is pretty good. We've actually got a fairly decent coverage In in terms of reception cost-wise is it varies. Because we don't have as much competition as we. You're you're kind of locked. In to certain price range. There have been few few low price ones in the market recently arise and they seem to be doing quite well. They're mainly targeted at kind of the younger audience. She was a younger generation. But when you go with the low cost provider do you have to sacrifice features and and you know data allowances and things like that not some of them you do some of them do but a lot of them are getting much better over here. I I suppose to the the different packages that are offered are going quite heavily towards data these days now anyway yeah so in the US we have four major carriers two of which are attempting to merge the moment T. mobile and sprint and it's it's difficult market it really if you're a customer and trying to find a good deal on a good arrangement it kids sometimes difficult. If you're still using one of the big wireless providers this year you have to ask yourself. What are you paying for? So there are expensive retail stores inflated prices and hidden fees. And and you're being taken advantage of because because you they they know you'll pay intermittent mobile meant mobile provides the same prima net recovers. You're used to but at a fraction of the cost because everything else else is online they save on retail locations and overhead. And then pass those savings directly onto you. And it's really really nice because you you literally literally don't have to talk to anyone go into a store or or wait forty five minutes will they activate a phone or any of this stuff. You simply handled all through the browser. It's a really fluid experience. It's really easy. And mid mid makes it easy to cut in spill down to just fifteen dollars a month every plan and comes with unlimited nationwide talk and text and with Mobile Stop Pink for unlimited data. You'll never use because you choose between plans with three eight or twelve gigabytes of four G.. L. T. data you. You use your own phone with any mobile plan and you keep your same phone number along with all of your existing contacts Detroit Wireless Bill and start saving with mobile and one of the cool things as you can switch between those data plans at pretty much any time. So you're always using what you need to use and and never paying for more you aren't or or never undersized. It's really works. Well to get your new wireless plan for just fifteen bucks a month and get the plan shipped to your door for free go to mint mobile dot com slash apple insider. That's mint mobile dot com slash apple insider. Cut Your Wireless Bill to fifteen bucks. A MONTH AT MIT MOBILE DOT COM slash apple insider. And I should point out. It works with visual voicemail and iphone which is a real treat. I wonder launch over here pretty soon. That is a good question and I can certainly ask them about that too. Please Law Adopt Doc. That sounds like the perfect deal yet. Do you have mobile virtual network operators over there we have a few. Yeah okay So that's something spor I'll tell mm-hmm do you have a problem with Robo calling over there. Not In the same way as it happens in the states A lot of a lot of the calls we get our from a foreign numbers that tend to kind of it. 'cause you for a minister to or what not even a minute causing for maybe like ten seconds and then hangs up so that you appear as though you have a missed call on your phone but if you go to you call it back. It's a premium rate for a number. So they're they're relying on you looking at your phone and go. Oh who was looking at for me from abroad and informing back But we don't have the same issues in the US off the actual sales targeted robocalls. Yeah so we have. We have constantly sales target road robocalls. This is the this is kate from account services. There's not a problem with your Visa Card. But we need to call back right right now or the This is the IRS calling the Internal Revenue Service calling. And we're going to send someone to arrest you if you don't call us right back. Which of course is completely fraudulent or the You're eligible for an open enrollment in healthcare. And of course you aren't and no there isn't but what's really problematic. Is that these. These calls are of course recordings. They're they're not real people unless you stay online long enough to get a real person. And they spoof phone numbers the the number you know. I've I've had people call me back and say why did you call me. I didn't call you sir but I got a call from your number. What are you trying to sell me? Nothing Sir and it's it's a real real problem and you know. Most of the phone calls that I get are these kinds of calls so there is now a bill that has been signed into law and it had nearly bipartisan support in both the the Senate and the House representatives in the United States the legislation requires that carriers implement authentication technology to combats calls else numbers proofing. So all those people using my number will be required to stop Because the calls will be authenticated they'll also be required to offer call blocking services for users so that people can block those calls for free previously eighteen thousand verizon and ten other companies promised to implement authentication education procedures and they have offered call blocking but at a cost. Now they're gonNA be required by law to offer it for free as part of their their dealings and is this going to is this going to. This is obviously going ahead put stuff. That's happening internally in the US Willis effect or will it be able to help especially the the called blocking service. Anyway with the foreign cars are coming in. Well I don't know if so that's an interesting question. The authentication appears to really address. Spoof numbers It it doesn't necessarily it may have a knock on effect for combating For a numbers. That aren't legit but the blocking service will block those numbers. Okay whoa allow users to block those numbers. Okay well it is a good step hardaway every every step taken towards reducing spam order. It's by phone or by email overstepped its takings. Good step yeah. I expect that the user blocking especially if it's one by one and without the ability to automate without the ability to use shared lists to block it will be a whack a mole project block one another pops up kind of problem but the authentication can only help. Yes yes well. Historically design design of telephone systems and email did not take into account any of these abuses. That are we're going to happen later. On in in time and I suppose authentication is the way around all this should be done by identification. It really has to be. I mean we as you say none of this was designed in now. It was designed permissive as possible. In fact it was designed without I mean initially what we had operators and then we had right and you could just choose to alligator clips clip line anywhere and pick up and get a dial tone. It's it's changed grown quite a lot. Yeah Jeff so yet every step authentication definitely is is the way to go forward with all these systems anyway and Every step that forward I'm all for a mall and I now Jimmy. I talked about him at the beginning of the show. A little bit when you were talking about Apple TV plus and streaming services us so I've says that streaming services face the same problems but they're problems are about differentiation. You know you're saying that Apple. TV plus needs to go ahead and syndicate content to have more content there and the music services pretty much all have about the same artists on them and so differentiation becomes difficult yet. Now I know when I said about that it kind of made the comparison of of launching your TV service but TV streaming service with Lloyd's of content launching a music streaming service. Now I do realize that there is a fairly significant difference in in how both are consumed and the so. It's not an exact comparison but at the same time yet at the moment to stream all the music streaming services are all basically doing the exact same thing there is yeah I know one that none of the streaming services are doing like the movie services. None of them are producing their own content right and Ivan had interscope records and there was a time period where people really cared about. What record label? Someone was on and and associated that record label with good artists right. And that's gone. That's well gone. But the he sort of still remembers it in thinks about it. Similar to hasten record companies no longer have a direct relationship with music consumers. And you know this is this. This is great for artists because they now have massive drek communication with their audience. But as a record company. You'd almost want to launch. You know what I'm drawing from his comments. He doesn't say this but but I'm sort of getting there as he says let's working in Video Disney plus has only original content so he I think he's imagining what if interscope had their own streaming service. What if sub pop had their own streaming service kind of thing because then you'd have different original content at different things? Yeah but I don't think that's what the consumer wants no not at all. When we're doesn't want to subscribe to Orleans difference? Get their content. Absolutely not but but I ah I've been says hale to the artists because they're winning. It isn't their problem to figure out how the Stream Company in the record company are GonNa make more money. It's streaming companies job to figure that out how to become become more valuable to the artist especially if the artist has that direct communication with their audience but are the artists winning at the moment. What I've cirque or not? Well you know when I talked with. I talked to artists over the summer last last spring and one of them was Was from blondie keyboard player from blonde who knew Jimmy Ivan and he said that the streaming services were fantastic. He loves the streaming services. Because he's getting royalties that he would never have gotten before for that in the past without streaming services it would have been up to the record company to decide to release an album or make something available again from back catalogue and then he would get a little bit of royalty and that was it but was streaming he's getting tons of royalty would never have gotten in the best that he loves streaming now. I talked with a young artist who had never experienced the old way and and was disappointed that their royalties big enough but what sorts Dr Perspective really a little bit. Yeah no it is. I just actually like doing what the record companies are record. Industry has not music. Music Industry has done for the last two years and contingently look back at how it was and is wishing on the good oldies without actually embracing the new way. So so I don't know that he is. I think so. I have a little bit different from some of the rest of the people in the music industry and you know when when there was a period of time where the record industry was using the law on the US to sue listeners That they had this thing called Napster way back when and Napster was file sharing for music and there were other services to but It really opened up the ability for people and it came right at Saint Thomas. MP3 basically started to become popular maybe populist MP three and allowed the people to share files and share music like never before and and there are other services that followed the same thing and the record companies response was to sue the oblivion out of the consumer. Yeah and I think Steve Jobs response was to launch tunes vision. Ninety nine cents Deland scammers did we have well. Napster was going down before that time but but yes he did away with all these other file sharing for the most part is you put the final nail in the coffin. Absolutely absolutely. He convinced the record industry to actually say not. This should be your pricing model. Right and the the the thing that I have been says is you know the response was to sue the was to get rid of the tech and sue the tech and tech was the enemy. And I haven't says when I got into the music business was to be associated with things that were cool and the record business. That moment was not cool. The way it was responding to napster was not cool and so I think what I've seen says there is you have to take advantage of this new technology. You have to find ways to to make profit within it and with it and that Just just just trying to keep things at one. Point in time doesn't work. Yeah that's pretty much standard for any industry. It is so many of them. TRY TO US Copyright Law to turn back the clock doc you know the VCR was supposed to be was compared to the Boston Strangler in young that this would be the death of the movie industry. VCR was going to kill the movie industry. And it didn't happen made. It made a lot of music or or It made the movie industry actually better yeah right it yet. Allowed resell everything from the vault and there was a lot of TV. Our production companies that came up as just straight VHS companies Absolutely so apple is researching home pod odd audio solution for future macbook pro. This comes from a patent filing that describes audio signal processing virtual acoustics that that can enhance a movie sports or video game or other viewing experience. So it's GONNA use the same technology in the home hot on your macbook right. So what they're they're talking about doing is just as they can. Use the home pod to new psycho acoustically a make the sound come from another area but that in the Mac book and now you can have virtual audio sources to to make sound feel like. You've got a wider stereo spread or or locate more more accurately. The the sound video game. Okay so this on the On the macbook. This sounds like a great idea because you've got a one to one experience air. If you are gaming Ming are doing something with the are than if you can do this then it means that the audio is coming from wear. You think it should be coming from your mcmeel behind you to the left or view I think so. And they're gonNA use the same Beaming audio beaming technology now building that it into macro pro is gonna be quite a feat definitely and yeah. There's there's also some headphones violence which you know with With in terms of this this kind of thing they need to be able to do wave cancellation the air surrounding the listener. And you can't really do that with headphones. It's something that works with loudspeakers but there is a headphone filing that. As well that talk about headphones that can detect whether placed in the left or right here just means that then they can assign the audio based on that. Yeah okay well. They can kind of do that now. Anyway considering if they just assume that you have the headphones in the right ear that could do that kind kind of audio forming now anyway in your headphones a little bit but it's it's just sometimes patents aren't filed by what they're going to actually produce but by it's something that's just an interesting method that they want to patent. Yeah this sounds like very good though with the macro third. They're going to do something like that. It's it'll it'll be good for far. VR and any kind of augmented reality Ar Gaming. That's going to be a big step up absolutely so on at the end of last year December twenty seventh just days ago Apple Mental lawsuit that they filed versus company called Corallium corallium provides the frameworks for IOS simulator. That gets used a lot by security researchers. And what's what's going on. There is that apple is trying to block the tool using the Copyright Act Apples filing says this is a straightforward or case of infringement of highly. Valuable cooperated works along with the trafficking and profiting from technology enables such infringement corallium. The company that they're suing here there businesses based entirely on commercializing the illegal replication of copyrighted operating system and applications that run on Apple's IPHONE IPAD and other devices the product that Crawley offers as a virtual version of apple's mobile hardware products accessible anyone. What browser specifically they serve up doubts as a perfect digital facsimile of a broad range of apples market-leading devices recreating with the studious hideous attention to detail? Not just the way. The operating system applications appear visually but also the underlying computer code and chromium does so with no license or permission from Apple Apple also says so security researchers are using this. Yeah I kind of got down the middle on this one I really i. I've I've had a hard time as I've been following this I've hard time kind of making up my mind on who I'm behind on this. I kinda see well I suppose for developers and security researchers I see says. It's a good thing that this tool is there for them. From Abbas point of view. Then yeah it's it's It's copyright infringement. So right so from Apple's point of view that this thing even exists is copyright infringement but the security researchers Shire's are using it to test jailbreaks and to find holes and flaws in IOS which only improves the security of IOS exactly And so the the cranium response is that we're deeply disappointed by apple's persistent demonization of jail breaking across the industry developers researchers rely on jailbreaks just to test the security both their own APPS and third party APPs testing which cannot be done without a jail. Broken device for example is now of the to talk APP revealed that an apple approved chat app was being used as a spine tool by the government of the United Farmers and according to the researchers behind analysis this would not have been possible without the jailbreak. Yeah Apple seems quite happy with some of the some of the reports on some of the security bugs that were found to take take that information at the time. But now don't seem to want to support this too so I think apple should be looking at a different. Taking this is a different approach is instead of taking legal fight them they need to come up with some agreement with them and say okay like let's make you an official licensed partner on this. That's one possibility the other possibility what he is that the you know if the need is to have jail broken devices as opposed to a a a web based system then apple could create a program that allowed a small number of jail broken devices to be made available to security developers. Yes yes But then again they probably don't need that because well and people will always find a way to jake devices anyway. it. It's while that the whole point it is it. It's getting harder to do that if you need advice to already detail broken or do the scary research to find out about these other problems. Then you're you're you're making additional steps. Yeah Yeah I can understand his point of view that this isn't an official system and it probably we slipped under the radar. I starting at the time and they're probably looking down the road now and saying okay. This could become an issue if we leave it there but I well. What's interesting is is that chromium claims that apple encouraged crawlies developing this was also approves take part in the invitation only security bounty program ramp? Okay will change the game abyss. You can't invite someone in and then complain that they're they're it's it's interesting so We will we will monitor this. We will see what happens. Yeah that's GONNA be interesting. It is well. That's all the time time we have. We have run out very quick. We it has been a pleasure. Victor I am so glad you're here for this. Thank you so much for joining us. No problem hope come back again sometime. Maybe after Exit William can be the UK representative and on the. We'll see and no matter how that plays out. We'll find out here on the apple insider. PODCAST I'm victor. You can find me at v Marks on twitter and Victor Apple cider sided dot com. And Sean where can people find you. You can get me on twitter at Shawnee to ace and you can also email at Sean US alive documents. Fantastic Wilson so much fun having you here and thank you everyone for listening. We'll be back next.

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Investing in Tech & Consumer Social with Turner Novak

Venture Stories

42:24 min | 9 months ago

Investing in Tech & Consumer Social with Turner Novak

"Hey everybody it's Eric. Torbert co-founder Partner village global aid network driven venture firm and this is metro stories. A podcast ask covering topics relating to tech business with world leading experts. Everybody welcome to another episode adventure stories by global on here take the very special guest Turner. Novak Turner is a partner at at Guilt Turner. Welcome the bucket. Thanks for having me so we were talking about this podcast. We were talking about Softbank and we were talking about why you think maybe in some ways it's more interesting or more of a fit for mega. LP's than people give it credit for one. You unpack unpack that argument a little bit. Yeah so when I think about. I'm a mega. Lp We have got hundreds of billions of dollars a trillion dollar portfolio. I can't go out like if I WANNA get exposure to venture or anything in the private markets. I can't go. Oh in just write a check for ten billion dollars like that's just not possible right now and I'm not saying we don't know if it's actually going to work Castillo TVD. But if I have a hundred billion dollar portfolio I can't go and write thousand checks to these small venture managers for a million dollars each five million five dollars each like. I just can't do that. I don't have the capacity. My team is constrained any other business. Yeah so you've got to think of. Okay how do I how do I deploy portfolios P so thinking like an institutional happy you have some equities some stock shifts and fixed income bonds. You got some real estate venture capital. We've got some private I would equity you've got you. In most cases they give that man they give that money they split up and give it to other managers. That's where VC's get their money from was these modes of funds. And if I don't have the time to I mean I have to be strategic just about how if you're VC. You can only invest in like twenty companies companies. Whatever ever you can't go in best in every single startup? So if I'm a Mega L. P. I have to kind of pick and choose how I deploy my capital efficiently. I don't have time to go through tons of Dodd You'll thanks for every single manager. I don't have time to go all their LP meetings listen dollar conference calls it could just not possible so if somebody can come to me and and say I don't even know what sopping saying they returned right now on the Vision Fund but it was something like twenty nine percent. That's wrong but is insane number. They can say I'll give have you twenty nine percent on forty billion dollars thus very pretty insane. Yeah like I'm like okay. I'm interested in. Obviously they need to prove out that right you can actually do that and get those returns at td right now. Yeah and I think there's ways to do it. I mean they've made some some of their bets. Some the smaller less high-profile investments. I mean. I think they've done pretty well. So yeah I mean it's just it's really fascinating because you probably will give you think they really need to kind of pick off the big companies before they IPO and instead of going Tulio that Oh public tax softening just needs to capture that before they go like and there's different styles do that. You know invest in different sectors. You we need to have founders in companies and other investors. Know that you're capable of doing this. Everyone knows it will writing billion dollar checks like literally everyone knows it exists Agree marketing for them. So it's I mean I don't think it's that crazy thing like this type of vehicle could resist. Obviously obviously there's a lot of nuances to how they've chosen to run things things you could say that could fix some things operationally there but I think the idea of somebody who is massive pool of private capital isn't as crazy as fuel that sound and you come from the world now you were doing fantasy invest on the side and we've actually deduct store together and your fantasies seaport. You're now full time but you come from worlds you understand it and I've I've wondered if the same misalignments that face. VC's and founders are also between VC's LP's which is one similarly ABC's don't have time to scoured university they get scouts to and then also VC's need founders to go big because they're playing portfolio theory. LP's aren't interested didn't lifestyle BBC's they're interested in going going bigger go home. Yeah they WANNA be able to ally times when let's say an LP takes on a smaller manager Asia they invest five million dollars or ten million dollars on your hundred million dollar fund. They expect that relationship to most appease especially in social peace. They expect their relationship to last for many funds. The like I said it's it's you have to be efficient. You can't be wasting time just always writing. It's not like a adventure portfolio or you just keep making all these bats like you and you have to be right to a lot of these institutional appease. Let's say it's an endowment. It's a foundation for a nonprofit. Get your pension plan you pay out. I don't know five percent of your portfolio every year so you have to structure investor portfolio low in some cases cases. Low risk parts of it where you can guarantee if there's a downturn you'll have money to fund the hospital or like letting students go to your school but at the same time Tom you find pockets where okay I can get twenty percent here on this slice of capital blended all where our portfolio grows a little bit every year sending Don with all inflation the payouts and nine returns. So it's a really interesting puzzle that you're trying to gather as institutional and it's interesting 'cause I mean basically the Muslim drink founders of is really between like it stems from the like the source of the money starts with the LP's. I wonder if I wonder how the system is going to change. In the next few years I'm it was like could you imagine a world in which founders directly to LP's LP's higher GP's on staff like. Is there anything that could change the next ten years in the ecosystem and the structure of it that that would materially change the relationship between founders. VC's and how founders raise capital or anything it's unlikely given how certain ways LP's yeah. I mean I think we're kind of seeing being in a little bit especially later stages so some of it comes down to the time thing if I'm an LP. Maybe I have people on my team do direct investing thing you have to you. Kinda have to establish a brand of some China's venture firm or as a partner to kind of brings entrepreneurs to you or helps. Do you find the right things. Invest in they'd have to really restructure their DNA of like we're a pension plan or investing in high-tech REC- startups. At the same time I mean I think is a is an LP you let's say LP invested in Theranos or we were something directly to blew up right. Let's I'll tell you that teacher's retirement plan of Louisiana. You know you have a fifty billion dollar portfolio on your teachers. See this in the news like our retirement funds invested in this fraud fraud competent to the middle man has its ways like optics prevention like a little bit upside. If they're knows it works you'll get the brand downside if it if it totally. Yeah and there's there are some I think the like some of the big Canadian pension plans are getting into buying infrastructure directly. They'll by airport or the Lila Toll Road you you can deploy five billion dollars in buying airport instead of community to find. That's kind of a play on like they need to find things that they can efficiently. Deploy mass mass amounts of capital. That's kind of why hedge funds exists. It's why you see people who are expert. Stock Pickers index funds of concert replacing amp like hot of endowments elements for their public equity exposure. They'll just have like ten billion dollars in an SME next bond and it's kind of normal novel and do it yet but you find ways to efficiently patiently. Allocate your time so you have a bunch of index on the public equities which allows you to spend more time and resources finding these special coming managers. We'll be efficient to create a four forty year. Four find life cycle whatever relationship with that will return a lot of capital to to your your portfolio do any predictions and how the venture asset class will change in the next decade perhaps sparked by how the I'll be ecosystem could influence it or it. I think one way that we've seen things change show we've seen people who want to have more control roll over their destiny start really small funds to get more more better economics on their end. So you you've seen this fragmentation and like I said the kind of plays into massive LP stopping elderly checks so things that kind of play on smaller venture funds proliferating freighting. That's kind of interesting I don't think. LP's will go direct super early. You'll see it more in growth probably As are probably the two things. Yeah I mean I try not to make too many crazy predictions. Because it'll be wrong totally like do you think the Softbank are there any bets that you looked at soft mcmanis and he said hey this makes no sense. I wouldn't make like maybe we were easy. In retrospect to to Chit on but like would he'd the Thompson has both need neither new nor like anything about these sort of businesses their businesses. You know your partner is in real estate the guilt how do you how do you think about we learn or something. Yeah on the same anything Uber we were. They are tech businesses. Like you think so kind of getting into we work a little bit. They are aren't they are medium. They're using technology so the way we work works you in the way real estate works you have fixed cost lockman forever. You also have corresponding revenue that comes in that you walk in for a long time and you get ten percent margins or whatever we were comes in maybe goes a little bit above market on the expenses. But it's just like hey we're going to slice up the revenue and we're going to increase the revenue we generate house property forty percent. Obviously you can say okay but the revenue can leave really fast so we works. Expertise has to be leasing up like acquiring customers and users like being their property. And that's not in the DNA of real estate firm like real estate's extremely fragmented. It's old school. These people just sign twenty Elisa's like super late. Not some of measures aren't as as high-performance efficient as we were so we works expertise is they can make more revenue on the same piece of real estate as any other real investor. Couldn't they can only do that because of their DNA of acquiring customers really fast in that's leasing opening properties. It's using their brand and he does like sucky playing quavering ads like a real estate real estate manager like a guy who owns them real estate New York. It's like a Roy. Saudi royal family owned some real. Say around like they don't know how to do that and they won't do that so we were at eight billion or you long or short. Let's say so. Masa has known everything going on inside. We work known the numbers for Weil and he's been trying to get majority control for a while like he tried to get majority control. When that deal fell through last year it was wanted? It was just secondary combined people out there couldn't convince their LP's let them do it and he gets the whole thing it seven billion Leeann probably got really good terms so yeah I don't know I'd rather own it now than McCullough like a year ago for sure Yeah I think that we will. The the product is great. I mean person using say you don't have to worry about all the other things that you can just like I'm just GonNa be of B. C.. And run my firm. I'm going to be a founder honor. Just Brown my my company. That's related to you know attack or my coming. You're like a social commerce startup. I don't have to worry about real estate. It's just it saves you so much time and you pay a little bit more. It's probably worth it. Yeah I'd like I'd really be curious. How much business value has been created from? We were like how many of these how many businesses growing businesses had been founded stealing. I don't know it'd be really interesting to see if totally we work as a platform in some sense. How do you Who Do you want rather long term? We worker Uber because the thing. I'm curious I'm curious why Google has like wide sort of ridesharing. Wasn't bill bird started by or Google doesn't have the advantage of apple in terms of like the maps as the first place that you go and then get a ride from their why. It's a separate separate app long-term whether that's sustainable sustainable. How do you think about that? I think the secret like we were secret sauce for DNA is just hyper efficiently. Matching things up to be picked picked up and moved around really quickly have tunsil equality in that marketplace. They've created and that's a certain. DNA that in their business. This model the Google maps business model is about showing ads on the map. Taking a trip been ranked in a little bit different Google's advertising company Uber is a transportation company so yeah it really think of Hoover's coordination moving things around I think Dr says he said you don't wear the aws for Transportation Asian so not only on the consumer side on bundling the car. I don't own a car. Can take micro. Ability can take an uber. Whatever Take Uber helicopter whenever that comes probably plane soon soon there's tons of new but even on the enterprise side like Uber Freight it's hyper efficient brings back and forth? Even last mile delivery like Uber eats. This is related to the last mile logistics network for restaurants. But you're seeing all these last mile. Are All of these food. Delivery companies use their last mile chops to get into other lines of business especially in India in Latin America. They're trying to deliver Madison and drugs. They're trying to deliver you. You know like like clothing by line that can stop Kinda like Amazon so you think of how retailing so Walmart's big competitive advantage was ause logistic. Zip Amazon's big advantage was logistics like. What's stopping Uber? From becoming a ECOMMERCE company to just like cells things like dark kitchens. Dark groceries dark commerce. I mean we're empowering that for other people like it's just you use it uber. API and I'm going to get things delivered with Uber. Api I post meets is already doing that. I think we're experimented with it with a barrage. It's like if you already have the drivers onto network. You know people are leaving. They're not getting paid enough. Whatever however people want to complain about we were in how drivers giving them more to do giving them more jobs like you can drag around? You can deliver groceries. You can deliver furniture you can deliver clothing saying like from Taylor. I don't have a staffing network. You probably get a job so helping people just do more with that Is Interesting so I think. Yeah the the. We're just has a lot going on and if you also take what hoover's valued at when you look at Yahoo Finance it says it's like forty billion dollars today or something haven't tracked but there's also some cash on the balance she take out. The cash have won two losses so we have some tax forwards pirates. Something like a billion dollars at this point you also say that they own a certain percentage of grabbed the percentage of your taxi in Russia on a certain percentage of don't they own part of Kareem in the Middle East that oral and they did he do in China then sleet literally on a piece like every single ride hearing business around the world you you basically give them credit for that in like back those out of Uber's value that you see that's training for it's trade for like I don't know twenty or thirty billion dollars like that. Just just seems really really low for what they're doing they're trading at like when you really back all that out there trading like two times revenue and you need to make adjustments on the accounting side for how you treat certain costs like whether they're like wearing the income stay then when looking at cashel where they actually fall but I think Uber's more of a Tech Company and we work more attack on me than people give them credit for and the shouldn't be treating it that low from what what's the right framework for Germany which something should be trading at the two extra five experts tax. We kind of it's a function of how fast the revenue growing and how it's really a function of how faster free cash flows growing so the people you really WanNa value business based on their cash. Well not on the revenue but the reason people value on revenues. 'cause cash flowing yet but you assume that they're going to come. I mean and for the audience that may not be super finish their explain the difference in cash flow in revenue so revenue is sales. Just the amount you clack at the end of the day from your customers that comes in cash flow is the amount of money that hit your bank account at the end of the year like the increase of total cash available to deploy do things with so you know you can have revenue that comes in and you pay for bills to Google or Amazon you pay marking expenses. You pay salaries you're paying in your bill at the end of the day you know you. Your bank account increased five dollars for every you increase twenty five dollars for every hundred dollars of Ramya. Yeah that's pretty good yet. You have twenty five percent cash flow margin for national margin. That's to me. That's impressive traditional. Nine Tech Mrs. It's not that high. And that's apply we sea TAC. Companies Trade at higher multiple of their revenue is because you see something like facebook at scale. FACEBOOK is like a great product. You all costs are fixed each additional scroll you make in the feed all the all the advertisers on auto pay so Larry if you can just convince people to spend more time scrolling. It's literally like ninety nine percent margins for facebook. So that's why these companies trait tillage high multiples and you you. You mentioned that because you come from the side you think. All product and businesses ultimately come down to generating cash flow. Yeah really that's how I think about it and you can think of product Oughta go. How how will the user use this? How will it convert something to sales quicker? Like how how you increase your sales efficiency. How will someone fall in love with the product? How will you keep coming back reading network effects like really all that stuff just comes down to generate sales and generating cash flow every business value Alya cash flow? So that's just kind of how I approach investing I think of like how does this impact casual. Sometimes it's really hard because it's like oh it's a start up. There's like three employees voyage like they have like a couple of customers but you have to think about all this look like in ten years and totally could could the founder take their to the founder novel. What we'd go how? The market reacted the product. There's so many different ways and means it's impossible to get it right but that's kind of more than a US totally. How much thing is helpful? And and you've thought about much about micro mobility we're talking about transportation. How do you think about the winner there as it relates to uber as it relates? And I think that's one question. The other question is sort of question. Russian is Uber Wedge tweeted. Today's rapid allege in Raby Latin America Into something bigger and I think the challenge. That's the bulk as the bear cases. Maybe either Amazon apple or Google a wedge into their business or how do you think about this feelings yeah so in terms of looking league. Bundling you can think of Amazon prime. You just pay frames on promised by everything for Amazon just like a psyche thing hoover Cooper's again example. You get rewards and you're getting in some cases confusing Uber Pass where you pay Uber. Twenty five months you get free micrometeorites you get schieffer ride you get cheaper food. Eventually it'll in court. Include other things like financial services by insurance I don't know which products are gonNA work but Kinda like Amazon where they'll give. Hey free video streaming if you have Amazon prime mover could who knows maybe offers a streaming service like a free net afflicts or Uber flicks. If you pay for over prime all those things that they'll do there's ways you can definitely unbundle it. I mean a lot of people. Her colleague Mimi everything's about bundling or unbundling and re bundling I mean it's kind of like the car's getting unbundled but re bundling things in a different way and repackaging ching it. I think it's important for them. In terms of getting cash will you have these captive users. They're riding using your APP everyday eating food using your APP every day. What so you've got them coming back some people to ten times a day? How did you take advantage of that as a quote a captive audience? What else can you do to increase your cash flow decisions? Can you remake. And what's framework for determining whether Uber will be used as a wedge into Amazon's Business Amazon will be as wedged Uber's but like how do you how does one determine who's more likely to or or even if you took different companies but the example of alleged to something. I want to yeah. I think that's what start ups the boat just creating a wedge to mass market. Now so I just think strategically in thinking about the value that you create for customers that you're capturing and kind of the value chain of a industry how important is the piece that you're getting So component how defensible how yeah. Yeah and there's no right answer for that I mean it's super contextual and something that worked for one company could not work for the other but I think it's just about critically thinking through just like talking talking to people that are way smarter than you. That's pretty much my tragedy for learning about things like talk about talk with and read from people that know more than me and under larger than me so let's kind of high approach it. I don't think is right or wrong way to do it. And it's hard that's why so many startups fail in licensed are worth tens of billions of dollars because no one really knows who wins and micro mobility. How do you think about that? How that space evolves? Yeah I mean I think it will probably remain relatively sort of so the way I think about it is is winner. Take all out Zober super-regulator so you get you have to compete at the the local level which is really hard to her scale You've got companies like bird that are basically outsourcing that are like the bird platform where they've got entrepreneurs that basically run a little mini business on using all birds resources you've got someone like who were who can just say. Hey We'll give you free scooter rides but also buy food from us. Use Our car. Take a ride hailing and then like you got blind is more like used bikes and cocker and scooters. They've talked about introducing a little two seater pod things eventually. There's so many different ways that people are kind of attacking the problem in their startup center. Sort of trying to different takes on it. So I don't know I mean it's just super very operationally complex business that you can't just copy and paste code. In Soviet works hire people are experts spurts boots on the ground Cities want to regulate these things. They probably over-regulated them every. Maybe we'll see like cities someone has monopoly Napoli in a city or we'll see some of these. Were like there's multiple players but I don't think we'll see we'll probably won't see like you're aware just it's literally just wearing yapped in West probably a little more fragmented maybe the margins are lower and is self driving cars winner. Take all over time I. I'm I'm just betting cards. Never happened even three years away for a decade there. I made no none of my investments making or like the way I'm thinking well the world is a assuming that we'll get there. I know it'll happen. I if self driving cars happen. Who has a distribution and like uber already has one hundred million using right hell? I don't know what the number is but could you. Were you know. Just roll out the fleet and start saving money or or is it more plays Waymo Tesla. Honestly Adenaur Nope. I guess. We'll probably see autonomous in enterprise side in trucking. Maybe Taliaferro Andy I what about during the Guber and left to continue to I think it's profitable businesses scaling really quickly in the court. The product works. It's just they've been growing really fast. Like that's something you go back to what we were compensation. If you read through stuff off the time they want they filed the one I think they had five hundred twenty two locations and they had this. Little graphic showed ten ten percent of the locations were mature and ninety percent of locations work under construction just finished leasing op at twenty percent. Occupancy occupancy you have like ten percent of your product product is generating a significant revenue at scale and ninety percent tons of expenses. And there's no revenue coming in and you look at something. Like Uber. Uber eats went from zero zero to six hundred locations. Like two years and just jacked up all the financial students like you can't tell looking at the macro no differentiation between the A to kind of drill down. See they kind of break out how they're giving incentives to two drivers denied writers like pretty competitive. You know there'll it'll be some shake out a little bit but it's it's a business works. There's a reason that they raised so much money in everyone tried to compete because there it was there's money to be made. Roger is one example whatever the create your critique of sort of Peter Taylor monopoly thesis. Basically be that most industries don't end up having monopolies oligopolies the Gop Eliezer or you know three or four major players in the space interesting to get wrecked like I ended up seeing something like Google Amazon facebook. There's a perception of its monopoly. You know it's graver talking point if you're running for office because people it's a super complex thing understand. It was a great talking point right now you can just throw it some stats and Oh yeah Amazon Amazon. Vote for me. Talk comes down to or we Amazon. Read article because we need to add ram near like art thing and everyone scrolling feed. Nobody's clicking article so some crazy stuff to get people to Clayton and get our revenue back. Yeah I don't know let's shift a little but to consumer social okay so I want to hear where you're really excited about consumer social right now like what you tweeted about this about this. The bunch of people responded. You're thinking about it you you have gone deep on talk on on snap is we'll get into those. Is there anything new that you're seeing right now or want to be seeing a request for startups and continuously. What's really exciting view about consumers Yeah I think the exciting thing about consumer social is just the best ideas come on nowhere. No one's thinking about them. Yeah Yeah I mean like you'll get snapchat. Send a picture inside of tax disappears. Like what the heck who'd want that but people didn't end up being really convenient because a picture says a thousand words. I can send someone a snap of US right now. And they're like Oh shoot like I knew exactly what he's doing versus. If I want to tell someone. texting is like in here have had A. We work with Eric podcasts. Here's all the stuff is going on. It's like it's so much quicker more efficient and if something came out of nowhere I mean I think you have to think about Oh your business. Model Lake Air Magal. Ads Do subscription the kind of ties into if you do non mess if you do group chat doing broadcast thing. One of the things that I think is really interesting shing rent albuque- consumer social social but tick tock not social product. There's no friend graph contact graph. And and when you really think about what. FACEBOOK and INSTAGRAM has become for a lot of people who are early adopters of social products. It's just a content consumption assumption broadcast mechanism newly opened Inter game in C- Sorta what some of your friends doing but there's also tons of influencers following brands. Now you're getting the news kind of like twitter ladner. Most the average person uses twitter for news. So there's not really even a social graph here the social graph is just interesting because it's a way to you. Basically bring other people back in the APP. Send them a Notification Ping on get him to open it up fall back in the feed and read stuff and sell some ads so it just depends on your business model and kind of how you approach that You know I think there's people doing interesting things in like snap jazz really interesting. Things in a are mapping. They're Kinda kind of thing. Is You know we're going to be competing overlay over the world. We've kind of seen how that's played out. I think they did a projected about a billion of the revenues from a our lenses uh-huh Nestle legitimate. The revenue coms from augmented reality like pokemon go is a are a lot of revenue sponsored locations. which Kinda Kinda like Google maps like? You're buying ads tied down a place in the real world. But it's not like a graphic that's overlaid over your screen which is what stand Jazz Donald. It's pretty incredible. Creates business model around something that didn't exist yet. Yeah so that's where I think the transformational social companies will come from doing something. That's totally unique. No one's done yet. HP Trivia really interesting example just it's a classic component from TV talk game show but everyone can participate and it was fascinating. Took the world by storm Concurrently over a million people watching the ink I I. That's amazing and there's going to be other products that Konin nowhere that no. There's just like a really special thing that you can kind of tell when you play with their new and unique and they just keep happening Yolo. Perfect example literally came out of nowhere an anonymous questions. Why would anyone want to do this? But it's like donning the APP store we keep coming. The question is what's their staying power. Your cat and periscope but also house party and then you know what's what's a thank bar and that td but the your snap has your bullish on snap incredible your IRA and snap you. Think that Michael IRA. I think that the camera I is really powerful. Anything snap maybe even as a better business model available or arrival busy busy Robert Facebook. Talk talk about the wires. Bush with the bulk is right. Yeah so I think if you step back and you look it snap how it works. You know the product product is you. Everyone talks about how group chats are great for engagement social because you send a message and ten people see it in probably will be nine or ten people open your APP and yet can be experienced but group chats have kind of a negative connotation like won't check it for a while just check it in like a day or maybe edge. Don't pay attention my group shots anymore. Because it's noisy snapchat is the same thing you take a picture you send someone but you also catt other people and for everyone who receives it. It's a one on one message for so more likely. Open it. Open the APP and do the same thing and send it to other people. So you've got this proliferating network effect compounds unselfishly people people sending messages and that's why they survived the instagram onslaught because a lot of people just used snatch as broadcast tool. You know seem stories from influencers celebrities. Just in Konya talking non Sanchez stories species. Use it and yeah like instagram. That's what you use interim for. And that's why stories worked so well was because you opened up you just saw content from the interesting things and they play stories right at the top of the feed yet. So you're going to see it and you're gonNA Click on it. And if you're celebrity you have had tens of millions of followers on inter-clan instant distribution Distribution to some extent Dan Trump product depending on the scale of everything. And how good. The product is an Sanchez like didn't really care about celebrities. Because they knew that their core focus was on friends one-to-one the one making people feel special communicating with people. That were really close to you. Versus watching Kylie Jenner. Whatever she's doing You know watching your favorite athlete and we're seeing now tick is just provided you could say a better consumption vehicle than instagram. Because I instagram. Damn you don't see things that basically you follow and you've chosen to follow instagram cancers. Go Oh you should really check out this thing. That Air Tornberg Post. Because it's great like really funny sketches. You just had a funny video like a great podcast video clip from it but in scream can't show you that in the feed because it relies follow follow where we do not care who you are who you're friends with. What your friends do? We know you'll like us right back to back. Yeah just like you so I think. FACEBOOK is kind of hampered by having to rely on this friend thing in who you follow and it's still a great having to compete with Tik Tok tied down to the feed lead like that's where most of their revenue comes from. You're seeing they've been trying to transition to stories full screen video which literally ticked full screen video. They've had trouble making making the transition because a caveat advertisers ramped up and start adding stories ads so they've been hampered by being relied on feed feed that those days book because Instagram was a great acquisition. All the stuff on the user side whatever but they literally just copy and pasted the code from the facebook feed and put an instagram. Like a couple of weeks like I took a team of Engineers Amman while to get it up and running because his latest product and you're tapping into the existing advertiser network so users users are big but you also need advertisers and that's totally more snack. Struggled they have to get all the advertisers on board. Sodas Tick Tock so tight like getting into this then now to tick tock all this crazy marketing span rushing them doing like. Yeah it's what acquiring users torch acquiring hype in getting marketers interested in trying it out because we've seen with facebook hype strategy was hey person who runs ads in the US. We have two point eight billion users around the world come advertising product and some marketers will think. Oh Wow I can reach two point eight billion customers on facebook no you can't you can reach your customers probably on the US there on the UK. They're all in Australia. Uh All the users that you're never gonNA reach in places in Africa Middle Young. It's like most people aren't trying to reach customers there but great marketing tactic. Take because as an advertiser like two people like this is the best way to is the kind of crazy I mean. Because it's like it's what vine should have been or could have it really is but it's crazy that Yo- facebook instagram snapchat twitter youtube out of all the existing plan hasn't dated didn't figure it out or didn't do it. I it's because it's just the different you I like. It's an entirely different experience. Even Youtube has had trouble. Look if you try to do stories like this long form video so tick tock short-form bite size video and I think we'll see them go from penny we've kind of already seen it started with just dancing lip sing. They started layering in in comedy. How To's they'll start layering in other forms of conne-tann get a little bit longer now? They've announced a music streaming thing which has been in the a pipeline for a while but little talk we use it as their kickoff is basically means like video memes and that huge for most people under a shortage. Is it eclipse youtuber. Youtuber start to get an like. I'd have to balance when beating youtube like the the next YouTube. He'll probably be ticked off because it like youtube is the same thing. It just shows you videos you. You WanNa be. But they're all fours auteuil by default. They're all long-form we're at this tick tock is like that video isn't good. You just screw watch next one and a needle and you find out in fifteen seconds. It was the next one. They'll start layering on other things in a half two and they I think they're gonNA try to become. And that's why we've seen Google tried to acquire talk about acquiring firework tick tock competitor. FACEBOOK is trying to launch to talk. And so it's really interesting you. I just kind of like the different stories is video video. I you is just different. DNA company if we're here a a decade from now back on another guy. We'll do sooner. Obviously we're talking. I'm sort of reflecting how the consumer social landscape is changed. Who would what do we think of it? Is there anyone where bearish on of of the big players. Is there. Anyone that you know we think snap is going to replace facebook status. Like what's what sort of. How do we think things could shake up? Yeah I think the most use social product is bit Moji while. That's that's my call so say more more about the way. Yeah I mean if you really think about bit Mogi it's it's kind of like a digital representation of yourself and that's what everybody's kind of that's what a lot of consumer social is it's about digitally especially when you're targeting younger folks the digital version of yourself just threw a fee I do see digital avatar startups ups. Is that what you're talking about but been Mosey being incumbent. They're winning so with snapchat resigned they they ruined the act you know. Two percent of the users laughed left but with the resign. They rolled out emoji across entire APP and a few check. The APP store downloads. From right around the resigned it was the number one most downloaded asthma. And in the US all these big markets for like three weeks because literally every single snapchat user download of Emoji because they made it on. Cool if you didn't have a bit moldy so everyone got at one and basically it's a decentralized social network that's even more because it's a back door into all these other apps via the keyboard you know so you can use your facebook messenger on twitter post like my Mo- jeep pictures into my twitter sometimes respond to be both but then you've got snap kit in which is basically snaps developer platform and they're kind of like hey you're creating a social APP Yolo. Use it to anonymous questions like hey deep make it make your conversion rates higher new users because they don't have to upload a Avatar. They don't have a facebook profile. We're not going to collect the data in a negative way. We're just going to say. Hey they're avatar can be there bit. Moji it's anonymous Avatar like a digital avatar which other people are trying to create an Samba's laying them have that component it So yeah that's my back decades. Your I mean who knows a snapchat still around. Who knows instagram slow around? I think bit Moji. Everyone can have have one. It's a perfect leeway into a our social into social. Owns me. Yeah they owned Emoji so snap as if if the product is the product won't be around but if big it's not the company will have done very well. Yeah I mean I think eventually the snapchat APP will will be different in ten years. It might be all in our glasses nose. And that's the thing like a are glasses. Everyone's been talking about We'll get there eventually. Who knows when it happens? But snap is basically laying the foundation or building an ecosystem developer ecosystem of like A. Our lenses are basically just a our APPS exams waiting for the next laugh more. Yes Sam's getting getting ready to the next platform android approach where they're like. Hey Use our snap. Oh asked power your glasses or were they taken apple approach where they say. We're going to own the hardware and we're gonNA own the whole data walgreens offer. I don't know I don't know what they'll do for twitter conversation. Do they take the approach that they make spirit products and or do they approach layer all different types of products insurance other things that they're cross selling digital agency. I don't see snap doing that. It may be other DNA DNA. Maybe if there's like a different. CEO Evans gone like totally genes DNA. But I think the whole DNA. The company is just your friends. I mean I think that's really. It's a defensible product. Like we've seen gene. facebook should have crossed the trip destroyed. Snap like as an everyone thought snapshots done like even if you look at their financials. They're hosting costs. Went up after the resign and wider hosting costs. Come up because people use your product more so even though like a couple of users Hannah dropped off like the core people who are power snapchat users to use it for everything when they're not leaving yeah there forever and when snappers out glasses who's GonNa be the first person to buy cool air glasses probably like tech nerds like me sure but grandma's not gonNA buy like our dads won't buy it will be the sixteen year old kid kind of use it for gaming for social. That's literally what Sanchez Four. You've seen them launch gaming product like they're just building so many components of this next platform and they're building tools for other people to build companies on on snapchat and snap kit. You know you're seeing. They have advocate. You can generate revenue from facebook's average snapshots advertising network. You're seeing you can use snap kit to acquire users faster and grow your business faster. You'll all exploded out of the like I don't know what the number is like eleven or nineteen. The top hundred APPs on the APP store had snap kit interpreted. It's like they're the party of their their tentacles kind of everyone. Tentacles like negative word but like there. Yeah Yeah and the mortgage is such a powerful thing. It's it's kind of taking what snapchat has done and just digitizing sizing animating it and you know. It's kind of. It's kind of like the log in with facebook. You know at your profile picture for the digital world totally. I guess today's been attorney Novak Turner owner. It's it's been awesome Yeah thank you. Thanks for having me. If you're an early stage entrepreneur we'd love your view. Please hit US up at village global dot BC Slash network catalyst.

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They remind me of me who at thirteen and fourteen ready knew what the outcome was going to be with my professional career which i thought i was going to be successful for and i can sense my own when i talk to them and some of these thirteen fourteen year olds feel to me like i'm trying to figure out how to invest in humans and take twenty percent of the side of a fourteen year old because i could see what i started noticing was frustration around supply they weren't able to we get enough when they were right and then i started sensing cards momentum watching the market and basically there was a series the couple of conversations where i just noticed and intuitively have decided for myself that sports cards much like nerd culture and comic con marvel movies much like sneakers that there's a bubbling of it being cooler her and more scalable than has this has been an inside hobby so a lot of people obscene right here in the last twenty two nationals fifteen nationals and over the last three or four based on the homework. I'd done the blues getting younger and compared to a decade ago. That's good that's good and so it was a series it. Was you know it wasn't the bowman break last year. Though that was great national awareness it wasn't it wasn't anything too crazy. It was just a series of fifteen to twenty things that make obvious to me and i actually what what i've been good at the scene of non obvious. I think it's china with basketball and soccer. I think i think the china collectible thing is going to be a lot bigger than people think. Which is why personally. I could be wrong these guesses. I'm just i've started realizing wait. Many people watching the things i'm saying i want to be really hedging the ship your i don't want that. I don't want that the token what i'm very scared of is believing in something something loading up and then talking about it because then people are going to think that that's what i'm doing so i've had to give up my dear and fox hot. Take then gone up but to me me having to buy things i want for more expensive are better than the industry thinking that i'm loading up and then promoting so i'm trying to find in my own way but i can tell you some macro thinks china with soccer and basketball is gonna matter so i think lebron's under price. That's my take should be related in a way that makes me confused by what is the excuse. You come up with to not do it. There's plenty of people that are huckster is in america to a very american thing fear outside of america. There's plenty of fraud going going on in america. I think this industry understands that so this fear base. I think it's a huge mistake i think i think there's a lot of opportunity. I i think my generation. I'm looking my best friend brandon. We grew up in this game. We have children that are net seventy nine range. That reboot really really really matters so. I just think it's going to happen listen. I'm an entrepreneur. I love this hobby the whole time. I have not been coming to the national the whole time. I have not been sending hundreds of thousands of dollars the whole time. I've been saying things in public the whole time in a world where i always want to try to be right. I feel something's happening and there's a lot of purists center in that respect that if i was a pure collector i i would hate what's about to happen. Prices are going up if your fire and flipper. You're gonna love what happens. Sports is tricky. Sports is not comic books comic books generational and they don't get hurt. I'm completely convinced about sam darnold but if he gets hurt then i'm not right. You know how much rookie cards would be. He was the culture right. Derrick rose and on and on and on so look look. I bought a obnoxious about a durant's because i thought they were massive overprice. It doesn't help that he's out for a year. How come back so there's a lot of variables that go into into this hobby but there's a reason this is happening brandon again. I just you know so my best friend and we're busy. Run my business my dad's business so we talk sometimes. Sometimes i get busy but when he was walking this morning and he just whispered something i said. What are you saying basically said. This is what i'm gonna be doing the rest of my life. He's fanatical hobby also for twenty years but the pace the peace abed ferry. Obviously what's it's about to happen. A super hulu air asia all regime honesty his vitality. I am being followed in his industry seen what that lassen us over the years and i and i think i think people should in some way. I'm trying to figure out for myself because i'm really only now in it. I'm playing and so like what. I didn't realize how many people were actually listening to listen for all my bravado and confidence. The only thing breath on most proud of is might equal level of humility has made me palpable so i don't think just because i have a lot of social media followers that i'm important in this hobby. I have to earn my keep to get back to that respect at the same token. Maybe there was some level of naievety for me of how many people even though. I wasn't with a day a day because they were entrepreneurs. Were aware of being into it anyway so i've been caught off guard a little bit you know with some of the following of what i'm saying in the same token. I want to load up on who i think is under price so what i'm basically saying. My head is if i would have bought a thousand p._s._a. B._g._s. Yes tens of something before i would say something. Let me by fifty to one hundred then start talking about it because look. I'm very i'll say it again. I'm extremely really hot on deer and fox i. I'm not educated enough on the n._b._a. If this off season everybody's watching film on him at a figured out his one speed variable hello. This is real sporty sports because it's my brother and i represent twenty-seven n._f._l. Players with vader's sports most of my football quarterback observations the investments and non investments have everything to do with the human being off the field and nothing to do with on the field. There's a lot of people investing on kids right now that they don't realize the kids piece of crap heading the wrong people and has absolutely did not work out this off season. I don't feel shit. Four guys came in forty fifty pounds overweight. I don't real stuff. Stop gaining what they're doing and that's information bandages and so anyway nonetheless. I don't expect to be bright right but i'm very excited about sharing. My hot takes listen. I thought patrick mahomes was gonna suck. There's one. I'm real lucky. This isn't two three years ago. I would give that hot take and boy that would be repeated on social over. I didn't think i was gonna because i didn't like that system in college. I don't like senate. I don't love second-generation athletes of professional player. You know i would be wrong on side. It'll be something this morning. It was really interesting from a staff of behavior bloom allen some ways. You're the lewisham on spurts. You talked lavine been absolutely ripped off last forty hours because i'm not in the game i i have no concept of a non graded cards like just cannot figure. This student rolled up the fucking. What like what are those go go. The i gladly micro loop this dude roll dos and he started going through my stuff that was price that was ungraded and like literally. I'm sitting around like i am about to get hurt. I i took my beating a man. I appreciate my beating enjoy my beating. You know i have no concept of low. Numbered autos are like i understand my strategy base in current new stuff. I'm completely confused by thus prison silvers autos. I haven't made my observation yet. If that's a huge vulnerability or the upside is so i mean the level of bashing and losses. I'm gonna take here. Compared to atlantic. City is going to be a big variable. I will be far more prepared dealers in in atlantic city but i'm just not there yet all along. Thank you sweetie. Yes ah yes mrs. It was just these inch duration. I think i think vintage is the most interesting and the and the least interest and l. Let me explain. I think vintages strong it's classic it matters but again unlike comic books is there as much excuse behind ernie banks and johnny bench and roberto clemente today as there is ten or fifteen years ago it just doesn't play that way right it just doesn't and so i love la vintage for the old time old time all time icons but i think guys like you and i- gals like you and i can get tricked because serhiy cons to us but the depth of their icon nece softens so i think i think people should stay in their lanes. I talked a lot about the stuff. I don't understand right now. I think people should triple down on what they know but but this is about a game of demand so took the whole hobby goes which i think is going to the overall demand gets stronger everybody from catfish hunter all the way through does go up. It's that when the demand goes down now you're down to thirty seven guys one hundred forty seven guys not five thousand guys and so you have to be very thoughtful of your investment flipping <unk> strategy around that which is why now that i have the luxury of having a lot more wealth than i did as a kid. It's easier to focus on really gold status saddest players for me. My big problem is i'm a die hard. Knicks and jets fan up to modern date goats at quarterback in the n._b._a. Are literally to humans that i hope pass away tonight as the youtube youtube is where youth watches information pat breaking much much like the wind show that i did in two thousand six for wine is entertaining and gambling two good things for people to watch the act. Yes yes yes. I would love over over the next two decades to purchase one of the fifteen iconic name brand sport card companies upper deck clear tops. Yes what is kindness times because when i wanna be kind unkind and when i wanna make profit i make profit so you know when i do my garage sale videos. A lot of people comment set like you're such a jerk your your million air and you negotiated that person from two dollars to a dollar on youtube and i'm like i'm in the zone. I will not be kinda three. Oh nine the restless weekend matthew three. Oh nine is not. I'm under educated so i'm getting ripped off but i'm not trying to be kind but then you know i'm thrilled on twitter after somebody's going to try to buy you know a messy rookie off of me and i'm not going to budge an dollar collar right but that same person three days later on twitter might say gabby was nice meeting. You and i may like d._m. Them and send them like a five hundred dollar card as look. I'm very funny that way. I think myself as an athlete that way. I think there's a lot of athletes that are awful on the court. All can kevin garnett just a bad had person genuinely bat but off the court good person and that's how i am in my this weekend back. I'm trying to win. A little kid comes up fuck you you know but but off the court off my booth off my court good like that same five undefeatable. I'll give you a thousand for free in like you know like that. Which is why don't talk about my nonprofit stuff on social media. I'm very comfortable who i am and my kindness. You know the donations that my wife and i make i'm proud of that and i'm thrilled for people to have that debate with me but i'm not gonna. I'm not a twitter warrior. There's a lot of twitter warriors in this industry real tough guys on twitter but in real life don't back up their actions both kind or tough and so i. I don't like that sir. Thank you sir. Yes sir yes this three. Yes yes see yes. You're in january. Yes watery concerned about this perspective. Not this not this scrolls so you're welcome so couple of things one sir eighty five to ninety percent of my behavior investment. We'll be vintage outside of monir basketball which i am a very big belief in palm and even that it's like really eighty six eighty seven and back <hes> this industry should be very concerned. I don't listen one thing. I'm very proud of is. I don't like to talk about things. I don't fully know. I'm just reading the forums. I'm reading social. I am very wired in culture at the highest levels and i'm getting my own information russian. That hasn't been shared yet. I'm too under educated to have a proper thought. Here's what i will say. What's most interesting about what i see is that there are are multiple braiding companies if there was one grading company like let's say the american mint that makes a currency if this was currency and there was one it would be much more interesting debate. My intuition is this industry transformed after i stopped collecting because of grading greeting is one hundred percent built on trust nothing i think we i think the industry has accepted accepted everybody here. The whole macro has accepted. There is some human variables in it one of the things that i still don't understand anything about but i'm fascinated by is if i'd never left. Would i be awesome at buying a car. That's a p._s._a. Or becca five and i could look at it and feel confident that would be a six if i regretted i'm fascinated by people that have those skills couple people rolling around that i've met used to grade and this it's interesting but the whole thing is built on trust just as the mainstream media karen rebel the wall street journal c._n._b._c. pick up more on this. I think it's a vulnerability forty and i'm a big fan of the market over everything not my opinions not your opinions not the fifty biggest dealers dealers not the most active people on the forums. The market gets to the side and if the market decides this is too much and see you there will be such an enormous loss of dollars whether my intuition is the worst outcome for the net is that one or two of the leading eating grading companies lose so much equity that a third or fourth grade company takes the top spot and then everybody who invested in a single grading company becomes far more vulnerable. I think a very interesting strategy for the most thoughtful with high risk high reward or walking around buying highly graded cards of tier three to your tier four greater right now hoping that the greeting companies switched positions. That's an interesting thesis but i'm not sure but i will say this and this is a complete outside point of view my intuition and hypothesis. This is everybody's to intertwined to let it go all the way down and so that's what i'm watching but i'm not sure i have a question. We'd be something in my head. How options rating allows zubi he needs to happen with your understanding of the swertz mystery yes in license. Yes do you see for skorts doorway. Yes no. I think i think both are in play light. This hobby has seen both i think whoever's in charge of the m._l._b. license when the renew comes gets wined and dined negotiated with and she you're he may decide. It's been a bad strategy to just be with tops the n._b._a. Licensing made the side they will want look. I look at the card companies the same way i look at media companies. They're vulnerable to the league when the n._f._l. Gives the rights to amazon. That's bad for e._s._p._n. N._b._c. if the n._b._a. Decides to give a new gerry owned flare company the exclusive rights to basketball. That's bad for panini or they decide to give give a second license. No i think it flows that i think we've seen over the last hundred years of this hobby that ebbs and flows and i would be stunned before we're on the time i pass that these exclusive in perpetuity. I have a feeling you'll see a change. The laura ah ah from the cop canadian tops and those guys will be in new shave invaded a bit to their their their job. They're doing their job. The card companies over the last three to five years in my opinion have done a great job and doing their job. The problem is they're initiatives and agenda batch the secondary market and they shouldn't you know it's interesting question. They've been involving crazy. They're creating false scarcity or scarcity at scale. They're creating incredible design elements there acquitting incredible cards. The problem is it's not panini. Tops is job to hold down production. During the business of selling nobody feels bad for panini when a wholesaler buys it at one price that makes three x when it's hot but everybody's superman when he makes the product because everyone's scared of the junk jackson the jump wax era is a complete reflection of supply and demand. They need all that cards. Every kid in my junior high and high school was collecting carts yeah they were in the businesses sell to walmart and to wholesalers so their job is to make as many cards as possible in line with the demand in the market wholesalers jobs are to make a big margin when something super hot and move quickly at margin on things that aren't store owners jobs to make right choices to product. I mean this is. I'm fascinated by by the judgement and lack of empathy from every sector of this industry being mad at somebody else don't count other people's money you're old. You're mad that there's going to be too much. Paninis ions in the market don't fucking science or buying them and move real fast like we are going into the next junk era because the demand at the end consumer level is exploding. It is panini and top shop to make more product. That's what they do for their investors their business we then decide off of that you want to decide that silvers and one of ones is good enough because they can never make more so you're not worried about base muzzle talk. You don't oh cool you want to go into deep vintage great. You want to do what i'm doing and go into vintage basketball because you think it's the number one sport by a country mile cool. You're in charge. This is america. You adjust here is saints. I'm getting ripped off everywhere. I'm getting ripped off. We're above. We love what knows nothing. It's supposed to burst. It's because it's a market the real estate market bursts wall street reversed the card market bursts. It's supposed to purse. It's human behavior how humans are structured. It's supply the in demand. You know what we all do. We can do good behavior on our end. Don't cheat be kind. Do the right thing. Don't get caught up by the fast money and get bad behavior be a good human being but we collectively can't do anything when when somebody reads a headline on e._s._p._n. Sportscenter in nine months that somebody pulled a four hundred thousand dollars zaylon pack one of one triple platinum charcoal charcoal from mars fucking rocks. Everybody's gonna come into the hobby and try to pull one because everybody loves lottery tickets and gambling what am going to be doing then buying kevin mchale rookie cards that i think are grossly underpriced because i think he's an underrated basketball player and i like basketball in the macro and there's not that many great white players to begin with and like that and by the way and i may also a ton of zion wax to gamble pope and flip lease on twitter beliefs. I got a lot of pieces of ice one blocking his okay but i think there's a shortcut but it's fine if you can't handle it to i i think you should be empathetic to what they're doing. A lot of people troll me and don't like me and i'm trying to think about why not that they're bad or stupid in the sports card thing because this happened anything i enter. It's because people think i'm coming in to make a fast buck. I understand i'm empathetic number three. I think you should use it as practice because the world bullies the quicker that you can get into a place where somebody bullying you. You don't feel the same way that somebody that you think is cool. Decides to wear your t-shirt. Don't get too high. Don't get too low to stay in your own head and things will get real real easy when people come to this show you see what's going on when people come to me and say i changed my life. Can i take a selfie with you. I don't get too high when somebody whispers was over on the side and it's like he's a scam artist. He tried to move the genus market. I don't get too low. I just do the right thing. You should get used to it. You should absorb a bit but you should never let somebody's opinion about you. Dictate how you feel about yourself because they don't know you why in this clash the summer v._r. It sure can i got some hot takes none. Yes from what i you know. Here's the thing again. I'm still too narrow right now. You know i know a lot of boots got scooped up in cleveland from what i heard from the bigger dealers that didn't happen this year because i think the understand the market stronger right chicago's a bigger market someday something but i'd like to scoop some atlantic city because i feel really educated in year. You know this is so weird from super-poor so i was lowest man in totem pole brandon i brain. I made a joke that might my son is open. More wax in the last day that we did in our lives right so having having financial leverage is fun. It's negotiating power so i'm excited about that part but not not this year yet that we should keep doing of i'm curious once bitten while in your the house in all off it seems nobody likes when they're they're move gets commoditised. You know who didn't do well when tennis rackets went from wouldn't graphite the players that weren't as good during that transition steven spielberg. The great all-time storytellers in cinema is dissing on net flicks because he doesn't like the transition people don't like transition when when they were humble enough to wake up at four a._m. Say line that was their advantage but now it goes to an online game where analytics better. Nobody likes transition when it costs the money. The problem is the market doesn't care about the market doesn't care about me. The market doesn't care about you. How are they going to react. If you're calling a purist somebody who's not capable to adjust to the reality of the new game. They're not gonna like it at all. The thoughts on this do see a huge huge fan of all things made on paper. I'm not educated about tickets or programs for magazines leaflets. I mean look. I'm a big buyer cutlass again. Shoot it with you guys. I think the most underpricing in this show is weird cards. I like cards parts not made by tops panini don russ clear it's first of all it gets really interesting when weird stuff gets like think about pokemon and magic the gathering like there's i just bought a ton of inner lake floridians. That's huge card eighty five i i i think anything made on papers interesting and i think there's a lot of weird stuff in their boots that look real janke and scary and i'm like man. I want to go in there and buy fucking everything. I noticed what's happened right. I've been on this you're seeing p._s._a. And i'm sure everybody else will start a great this stuff. I like paper been collected longer and i. I'm so simple. I'm really really not smart. I'm good at one hoping supply and demand of attention which is why understood social media of things which is gonna flipping ticket it subs are interesting because people inherently through them into bins and things of that nature somebody's cards made by like stuff that we thought was garbage back in the eighties and nineties like there's something really there and i think tickets can feel that too. I think anything made on paper is a very interesting debate. Why here you sure you want me to answer right now. Britain she watching somewhere britney listen. Here's how i see us. If any person in a relationship is unhappy and not achieving their happiness the whole thing is vulnerable so leaning into the other person's persons happiness is always a good strategy a solution strategy <music> smart very smart wayne secret but but scape not run on a skater not same bolt and this that's exactly right go to where the market's going but go with what you're good at this same skill set i have and passionate. This skill set up seeing around corners. I think a lot of money in real estate a lot. I don't like it. I'd rather buy four thousand weird. Converse burst larry bird cards happiness matters so yes go where the game is but skate there because i'm self aware of my happiness and my skill set and there's a lot of people right here right now this weekend that are about to go into categories that they don't understand because they think it's getting hot and they don't stay in our lane nice general with the padres hat. He's in vintage. He stays in his lane right like the brand knows this because we were so hardcore baseball. I was buying eighty six eighty seven fly or basketball in one thousand nine hundred two and three. I was writing. I didn't have any money and i didn't go hard but man. It's bright because i already at that point. Understood basketball was doing soccer cards lamp like if he could force yourself to get into a four for the reason to collect it. You better get into soccer. It is the great layup of this industry renaldo messy. Rookie cards are a joke joke a joke. They're they're jordan. They're cheap and the demand hadn't been to new york city or chicago. Our kids that are seven years old are wearing more soccer jerseys than cubs jersey. It's getting crazy. Do you know big fee is don't even get into sports. Cards becomes the thing ninja. Rookie cards are gonna be like thirty-three beirut's. It's real interesting shit so here's my question russian everybody. How long are you playing. If you wanna make a quick flip on some on staff the gate and like that's the trading game but if you're in the mutual fund long-term my financial sitting here in chicago. They know that i don't treat my money on wall street the right way. I'm being serious. They know a high risk high reward. That's what makes me happy they can easily layup gave me a great return. It's too boring for me for my father lost a lot here yet. A few loves that they crushed for him he likes. He likes money more than i do. I like action action. I'll be self aware thank you bush fires last you with the us living i i. I like flipping. I like old stuff. Though so these contradictions i liked the short-term action because it's fun on to open packs with my friends and my brother but but i'm i'm i'm collecting flipping meaning. I don't mean to own a single card ever. I don't that's not what i'm about. I don't but i want to buy the new york jets more than i wanna breathe. I love them so much and i don't enjoy any piece of memorabilia from the jets that i have in my home. I don't enjoy it so i treat them. You know a lot of people would ask me 'cause. They're trying to sell me memorabilia. I'm like i don't like memorabilia. What the hell and then i'm like. Wait a minute. I don't even like cards that way either either. I don't like it what i like. Is i feel i'm super right about interleague jordan. I like being right twilight sharing my advice. I also like being raw. No i mean it twice told you the padma home saying i like the game of thinking and i like winning and losing in thinking so what i like is going to hoard the crap out of vintage basketball and then when i read it will tell you in nineteen ninety-three at a cart show we're setting up and i start putting up toys and comic books and brandon literally quit. He was already in trouble because he started liking girls but her he quit on the spot. He's like this is what you're doing and i'm like you know. I think cars are in trouble. I didn't like the way the last five shows felt but these comic comic books and stuff which i wasn't intimate all i'm like i think it's going to grow you. Look at what happened. The next seven years of those two mark. I didn't stay. I went to school and then i got full into wine but if i stayed i was so uncomfortably right. So what am i gonna do. I'm gonna give it to you right now. I'm gonna go hard what i think because right for the next twenty four to six months and then if i feel it's going to be awesome forever. I'll just keep doing that but if i feel that this show and twenty twenty-nine if i don't like the way it tastes. I'm going to sell appeared and i would buy. I literally just literally that answer. <hes> two thousand i would buy either luca or genus prisons absolutely parts. I don't think people are saying how popular basketball is. I also think this hobby was very bad. Factoring in the athlete everybody thinks that lucan lucan genus are overpriced right now because they exploded in the secondary market on ebay over the last couple of months. What they don't factor in is john. This is probably the the best player in the world and he still has room to grow and the east is weaker now and it's only philly maybe and he's probably going to get to his first finals. He's charismatic atticus hell. He's ambitious off the field. He's kind and nice. He's a global character. He's a handsome dude. He's he's got everything going for him. Luka luca is white. Luca is twelve years old. He came in as a rookie last year out of shape and flex on on the league. My friend draymond green d._m._z. Means like this boy can play fremont. Everybody sucks god. Forbid porzingas plays and you've got cuban hyping the shit out of it so if i'm just saying to myself what quarterback doc scare me because they can get hurt right. I go right to basketball. It's a short term hobby now. What dr j. rookie cards. Dr cookie. Cards are stupid cheap. He's an icon but it won't be a thousand more sure you buy a p._s._a. Eight right now for eight fifty. It's not going to be two thousand next year but the people i have says buying jonah's at four fifty and they're going for five out there. That could be a thousand real real real simple. Don't let xiang as trump fifty one in game one against the clippers in the finals next year where they triple team watched watch. What ebay does the next morning. Anthony davis was the lineup of all time. You knew he was going to l. A. or your people gotta get smarter here. People gambling guessing i'm watching people talk people gambling and guessing. I'm guessing up here. Yes i know guys real quick. I'm really more number one through ten of the reason i'm here to spend time with my son so i know that a lot of people haven't seen yet. I see a lot of pieces. I wanna see all of you but i'd love for you to come by three. Oh oh nine which is where i'm going to go because i'm gonna try to walk about right there to spend some time and bring a box with him so i'm here until sunday so i'd love to see you selfie. He signed whatever but but i'm gonna try to be line right now and i know a couple of you're alpha's and still gonna try to snag me. You're more than happy to it will just kill your equity with me. In perpetuity intuitive got seconds for listening. Please please please share the podcast and make sure you've subscribe to because a bunch of you aren't subscribed and more importantly a bunch of listen every day and having told your friends it's the best.

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Completely Useless EP 55: Ian Mccall

Completely Useless

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Completely Useless EP 55: Ian Mccall

"In fact I'm the back mocking were by these works up. Everybody wants something back. Hey how you doing frank? I'm actually doing really fucking good fucking and the dude. That's so gross. It is I duNno it. I'm always had like even when on my skinniest. Yeah if you wasn't now but it's still more that I should You know it's funny. I was on Youtube. I saw an ad for a thing for that. And it's like this rubber piece that you put in your mouth and then you just bite on his. I saw that coach. Or whatever said it say working so I'll just get like Like the really hard bubblegum flavor. Goes away like five cents. Yeah my mom has this has pump. That goes here and then she just goes up and down and it works out her neck. Supposedly it's for this is yeah. Yeah I don't know they say that there's ways to work out the facial muscles Restrict or whatever but I don't I don't know what that looks like so yeah I think my dad is like that the genetic wrong with your face genetic. I look show much like my dad. My Dad is I saw when I was in like sixth grade right not graduate from six year or had just graduated. I Dunno I saw an old document or just a document I guess but it was a hours ago. When did I take a picture and what Mrs It was that. Oh Shit it was it. Was you so it was like my dad? When he was that same. H Yeah exactly. We looked executives interested in different haircut. Yeah the back on White. That's funny I got in. That were the same person. That's is just much darker than me. Your family's dark you know. Speaking of Dad's I beat my data basketball today and I'm really happy about it. I told you I was happy. He's like seventy he's seventy you're thirty. Yeah but I'm a Buick unhealthy fats. Thirty year old. So it's like I have the body of a seventy year old so technically like work out longer than you. You know. It's funny. I beat him and he let you win. I was like shut up and he probably did I. It's just not gonNa be good. Yeah it's not seventy year. Old Dive passed. Bill does the forty dollar hoop. We got is what ultimately ended. My life couldn't handle. The loss is so fucking funny. Yeah so I listened to guys for listening. Thank you for the to the returning listeners. Like it yeah hope you like it. We just been sucks out there so right. Ian. I don't see them on the screen. You'll see 'em yeah I just add. I could see him still nothing. No sub switching out like that. Yeah it's GonNa switch a you. Could you could change your view so you can see all three of us at the same time but I do. I do that I how to do it on the phone but it changes automatically so when the video comes out it shows. Who's talking all right? Well we're joined today by none. Other that Ian McCall. What's up a doing great man Dylan rival Schilling? We're doing they're in quarantine where we call her previous guests in Shannon. We thought it'd be awesome year right after the you'll see to forty nine. Yeah fights while I'm forty nine. I have not had time to the chance to go. Check it out the ones today but I mean I'm still processing the other ones on the weekend. All the spikes all the fights were crazy. Oldest is great. It was the same hatred to tonight. yeah I'll I'll check it out the APP leader. I Guess Pink. Okay I I WANNA ask you in that. Dominick Cruz fight was stopped early to you. What do you think Yeah 'cause that's a championship fight and dominic stuff and I think you're I mean a little biased. This season obviously friend but right here like ten inches though and get it to my friend I. It looked like he wasn't doing it themselves for like ten punches so with which I totally understand but there was some sort of momentum. I'm fine with stoppage. I I think it was okay. I mean but but I think it could have been let longer. That's all dominates the bucket stud these proof that multiple times and and You know in those in when there's that much on the line you let things go a little longer. That's kind of a rival and said Yeah. It's gotTa be difficult for the for the referee to 'cause usually eat so many punches. I it feels to me watching the replay and stuff and so much stuff and emotion. It looks like as he was stopping it. That's when Dominique was starting to get up to try to and that's why dominant was so mad. Yeah and and you know it's it's It's just something something dominic trains every day for like. You know what you do your whole life when you get that your body just works that efficiently your brand conscious but but you know again. I get why he made the call but I also understand the feeling of of being able to go a little longer. I mean that that's I am. I'm someone that teaches how to heal brain damage and against trauma and stuff. Like I'm trying to changes for the better and I get it. These are fighters they've been. They put their lives on the line. Every time they do this. And you know you could let it go farther because I think actually I do see because the fight. What highlight what five seconds left the around the right? Yeah not much. Yeah was it was second. It was than ten seconds. Joe Hadn't that's exactly that you could have could have definitely on longer. You think if you think of the fight hat gone another round or the length because to me it looked like Sudha was dominating. The fight will soon once you this championship. Brown's Dominic is super. Experience has been there multiple times. You think of you think could like turned it. Of course he could`ve. I mean do I see it happen the way he was being broken down and again and again? I'm not a fan of him. A fighter of courses but. I'm friends with Tom so I I. She's getting shellacked. His legs were getting shot. That's beat dominant miss. You really really good boxing. Amazing game. Plan that cody had that one day but he added to. You have to kicked on the that's why You know like that's how you stop it. Let's say you stop for moving and then it's all head movement. There's just no foot move with it so he's not going anywhere and that's what started to happen and then You know his moving got time real well because he is really good and time that perfectly I mean. That's that's what he does no easier. Now listen that indoors. So that's another thing that like dominic like that happens. Maybe he could. Maybe he could've killed kept going longer. You get caught. And that's like order the sport you know you call it that kind take us you know what? I you know so obviously a lot on the line. Then so huddle fucking retired supposedly. So it's like this is a big part of it again. This is a big part of it. There's there is an overwhelming urge to keep everyone safe. That's why I'm doing what I'm doing. That's that's why I have studied going with the UFC and will not directly with them but they they invite me to. The fights talked a business proposals over and everything that we've sat with them and talk they don't want to take damage dominate took damage with those shots a lot of damage an for him to come back and let's see he got out of the round he's already concussed so realistically he shouldn't have. I mean I know he wants to. I'm okay with it because you buy the ticket. Take the ride but You know from from a medical standpoint from a from a business standpoint. That's bad for business that I hate to say. It's it's good for business in one hand because you get you get an instant gratification. Sort of riffing dopamine response out of like that guy got crust. It was crazy but then you also you lose you lose potential in the star so you have to kind of weigh the balance. See you know. The coin falls on both sides all the time. So you Kinda gets both sides of it so You know this is just one of those things that the those calls are going to be made and you have to just take him for what the judge skulls it right you think who Was the Huta retiree now. Does that put dominic? I'm not sure which what what would what rank what Iraq is exactly that that's got put dominant way out of it. Not Close to a title title fight in soon right. Oh yeah he can always but I think what they'll try and push is something is one of the three cody. Ej Dominic. It's going to be one of those three probably or no while. Peter Yawn. Sorry that's a new those those four fight and then figure out and then see the yeah like like interim titles and then from there. They'll take it from there right. See WHO's champion? That's all I go. I haven't been paying much attention to the rankings. I just started watching fights again. I really just bought the ESPN thing today. 'cause now I am. I'm back in the sport doing what I do. I'm a performance and I have a study going with fighters so I I'm watching watching fights again. It's it's kind of. It's part of the job now. Right like a different again. Yeah gotTa feel good right? It's GonNa feel to come back to a sport like that and just put put up from different perspectives. And like just doing what you're doing. It's it's way better than I am. I'm old I don't I know I'm young enough to fight but I don't want to. I try to over fighting tonight. That's I've known since I was a teenager. I love and deceit. You still fighting. I'm like Dude I come on where you doing like what you're fucking all pro stop you know. And it's him I'm not saying he's he's not washed up or anything but he's not who used to be even though he's still he's still in top ten in the world. He's a contender right. One top ten. Yes but I just don't want to see one of my lifelong friends taking more damage away. Like I don't feel especially now that I can actually feel things in life. I like. There was a long time. I was numb especially working. The psychedelics got you know weird And you know I'm I just hurts me I. I don't like seeing my friends especially the older ones. Keep doing it. I'm like dude. If I retired I used to be the youngest one I was little. I was a kid and I'm retired and I'm like what all is waiting for right like you've done what you gotta do this for you. Put Your stamp in the sport right like Tito. Ortiz and ICEMAN. Like they're still out there doing it. I don't know why I mean there. It's crazy but I mean maybe the money because they still want to be out there fighting but I mean it's crazy. Well this this is the thing when struck came back last time against Tito to he was. He was a mess. He he just got his nephews. Do you guys need done He had this like equilibrium thing off with his neck and head of a few so he couldn't walk straight and I was like what again won them. Fuck her you can own. Are you going to fight this guy this Guy Strength? Verda you are you GONNA go. He's a dick any any just thinks that he can beat up to you to. Tito's intriguing this whole time. She not hasn't stopped training his ass off and Tito has the bigger brother Syndrome with shot. Worry she does a great guy really is. He's amazing. Help me some shit. But whenever chuck around or a camera gets around do Tito just turned into some other fucking person's threat. Yeah was like I get it with Chuck Chuck Chuck to Dick especially I just fucked with it. He's a big brother and and I just just you know good for judo. He'd be one finally. It's that's so stupid but he does. He just just beat. Alberto del Rio. That guy sucks too you know but Like who I don't know he's he's just he's still doing. I don't know wirehouse but whatever it's working I mean I guess some guys just gotTa do it till they literally. Can't you know? Yeah the idol. Now you guys know Australian boxer Australian. Yeah I always. My friend can't think of his name. see brain damage. See that Then he's like he's like forty years old he just. He needs new hips and he just fine. He's coming out of retirement. Mike what are you name part? You think maybe I mean this guy I feel like now with the with the with the reach. They have they have. They can find other ways to make money right like whether it's at a gym jam with thanks like that right but it's just something that keeps on bringing them back to gyms are not a good investment and I've never I've never invested one I've I'm invested in a bunch of stuff I you know. I've invested in the new company that we're trying to change the face of judging and scoring in it's called the score of the scoring center. We just had our first live event on on his on social media where we have a group of senators and no boss Rootin- and and You know Rashaad into Chuck's into it you as a favor helping out with us like these big name people who we've been talking to about and and I eyebrows the legitimacy now I own part of the company and You know we're we`re. We're just looking to change things from this like. I'm trying to fix as much as I can because it's broken because I have time to do it and I have. I have the I can pull it off so I'm working on trial. And at the end of the day sports still relatively young still very young Twin Twenty twenty one years old. Yeah exactly so you know that's GonNa keep revolving so it's good that people that like you know what you're doing and talking about 'cause before the judge in I think part of the judging is that the judges didn't know about all the different types of martial arts this guy's bringing into it right so it's harder it was. It was just hard for or started at of good judges know what they're doing right. What happened was they could've figured out by now But the Boxing Commission. They take care of it. And if you haven't noticed there that's a crooked that's crooked industry and I don't want but it but it dude I kind of want piss them off because they can cut they can ruin. What I'm doing. I WANNA make teammates. Rhyme Nice have is a broken system I can facilitate getting the biggest names in the world in this the and getting guys after retirement income judging obeying them a lot of money to judge these fights and I'm paying them and not even actually judging the fights until like let's say ESPN PIES. It buys the product or selling and then puts it into into their made it work so right now we're just working off of off of. Leech off all of our senators said there's judgment. I need to figure they're scoring system must to with math. I'm not Figure out a new scoring system and I absolutely is but So you know we're just trying to we're trying to just make it make a difference in you know we're going to go back and and reduce mold fights I probably won't review mile fight with dimitrius everybody's asking about up but because we need unbiased opinion on the podcast. I'll be on the podcast after your. I'm asking everybody was saying because I don't care. Don't give a fuck like whatever you know. It's it's just getting it done having unbiased opinion and and the thing is an APP and you'll be able to have see everyone's profile and then every single judging decision. They've made every single. That's where you'll yes so then you add profile as as a fan you can see. Oh who you know. You can affiliate with some person who you line up with. The most who makes these calls which fighter which legend and then. I'm giving people a income after of good with a decent amount of money. You know like it's enough to sit at home. Watch fight you you WANNA do anyways. None of your bills right in any way. You can make the taxes if you have an APP where I can view all the judging calls while it's going back. Oh my God that's while I'm watching the fight. I'll have you know people not watching the fight for what's going on. But the waiting to see the reaction from the senators the judges and everything and that will cause even more commotion. I'm pretty excited for something like that. We you know we can have it all up in plain view. And we'll have you know the new scoring system. How did it broke it down Do you put a bunch of stuff up there. Punch stats whatever. The girl this stuff out is just having a calculated in real time. That's that's hard. I don't know anything about technology and I'm trying to build two APPs right now nerds zero for them and Chard and like might make girlfriends a super genius. She's Vienna scientists for twenty five years away. I try and keep up with her mentally in her and the other people that are in my life are smart and it's exhausting dude. I had to come up here in bed and just lay there just like just like start. Nothing for awhile just unplug. Sometimes I read a Lotta big words. I mean you wanted to ask you With the fights the way they've been doing with no audience is that's something. Psychologically it messes with the fighters at all like not having the audience being there to watch. No I mean that's GonNa that's GonNa help people because like a big visiting everything vision. Work is is a big mental side. It's huge and that's that's a big part of what I coach the event. I'm not gonNA work physically people because I don't have the time. I own few companies and do things and trying to progress in like do a lot of stuff and I just don't like I don't I don't know I don't have enough time be in the gym with which I am. Maybe all grow into it might calm down and form and stuff trying by but journal by bio-diverse fun. I want sustainable living and I found it here right here in Orange County like minutes. Jeter Buchanan. But I don't I don't know afforded the truly sensitive but a figured out. I read system of problems over But you know it's I don't know where to go with that but You know I talked too much all the time on. You're talking about the mental side. How it affects them. What happens At least to me maybe creepy -ness of being in a big opening like that will not that many people weird somebody out but most people are afraid of an audience. And there's less pressure right. Yeah have you. Have you ever been to a live event? Yes or no no no well. I've been delayed fights but nothing huge it's the UFC puts on the greatest. Live show in the world. And I say that as a fan because I I love this obviously look I love his fucking sport. So much It's such a Dork for. Let's have martial arts. I was four I. That's what I observe obsessed so I've I've felt funny. How the new obsession? Which takes up most David You know it's like this really cool. You guys go to these events. And they're wild dude and you just like. I have to say that American fans are awful like guys if I hear one more person talking about punching someone of Ankara sweep delay. Young does so I deal with the idea as it's been a long time since people shut the fuck up you know. It's certainly is a great time for the look so this fights. I don't I didn't see anything different at all. All those guys came out to kill it. You know like there were working like that's why the justice I don't know how to say something itchy. Do he was that he was trying to kill that. He was trying to tawny freeze in Ferguson. Just kept on taking. Those conscious was insane at that I thought he I thought he was. GonNa die out with him in Colorado at the unexpectedly his Jim that haven't been out. Refer ceremony with Rashad Evans and the guys at the sciences that I work with and we know we do the ceremony out there and we got to go hang out have fun. Shoot a bunch of footage and stuff them to. He's through every punch with full power and he had tony with a Lotta punches. He was landing having so much and porn touches. Sola yeah it was it was it was so bad and I. I don't know how he did that. And then tell never he never never like really got dropped by hall. I think to kill the fight stopped that you could tell felt that because all those punches caught up to him all around and he was like he was trying to grab the air and Shit. That was a good stoppage too. I think because he will yes. Oh ours fine. I was totally fine. I mean they anonymously talk Tony Ferguson. Champion is for that like honestly. I don't know who would have taken more more punches. As more more fight ending punches like fashion from Roberson that Knox a lot of people out and knocks him out bad he has hardy spar and I was like no fuck savage. I'm here to take psychedelics. And work jumped up and then I ended up overshot. He's general he's not he's he's up there already. He's not fighting for the title anymore. So no he's he's he's out. Yeah he was one of my favorite fighters coming up Rashad Evans Shit. As set used to hate him he was a dick to my nephew. One time and he he'll admitting is national. And that pissed me off. And then he viciously knocked out one of my best friends like someone I look at like. There's an older brother and and finally chuck. When did he goes? Do you need to talk to her? Shot if you to fucking relax sopping Asshole and talk to a shot. It was like at the issue away in the news. Like Hey Justin Jackson meeting to talk. He's like we do talk and fine. We started fucking around and I love man. You think you think that like you said You just GonNa Goss Out I think we saw our Are Your corner could be because I think on the third or fourth round his coach or trainer. Whatever it is. He was like Shit. Bring much going for the for the bleachers everytime Trevor Trevor. Women comes from boxing and and that's a boxing approach. You know that's a that's a distance game and you come out there and pop up you can still move and you can still crack of them. You can knock somebody out with twenty percent of you get them right tarred but you can go. It's flashing on somebody for sure and you know if you're just slip in and Ribbon Bang combinations especially when the guys tired and half conscious can barely see out of what I do. That's that's you pick him apart that way end up behind them or next to him this way. Now you Shelford aside and then they then they try and catch up to you and your treatise behind on this almost here you can just rack people Coleco Luma Chango. Someone has that sort of that can touch that much and they touch and move. It's not just about being one. They sitting here like this. It's about being able to move law. You step into everything head movement. It's there's a lot to it like who work I I've I've have shown I showed a few few. Actually real fighters might my footwork setup and they were like oh there's levels to this was like really good miss. I've obsessed over this my whole life. I've done a lot of sports but I obsess over martial-arts since I was four years old and I liked the fist fight. I was getting a fights my whole life. I was at the Beach. Every day surfing and screwing around and like beating Grena Hoodlum Salt Creek Beach here in Dana Point next to the Ritz Carlton Beaten Up Tourist. Dick so stupid I was and it was just unfair. I was a little me at fifteen hundred pounds and I would just whip these old dudes butts who like you guys. Geyser fucking big buff guys trying to pick back. Like take care of their girlfriend will hit them with water balloons. You know like pasturing and it's just so mean I was so stupid I could do you think Blah coast Johnny Ferguson. Was SUPPOSED TO FIGHT. Could be so you think that. His training camp being focused on him. You think that that that messed them up. A little bit the change How how. How long was the window that he knew that were still justin? I think three weeks IOS small. It could have for sure on this key. He wasn't an especially seeing gate. You look like that. I mean I was word measured distance timing. Everything was perfect and then he was throwing this heaters out of it. I was like wow. This is that was some of the best boxing I've seen in in the UFC like ever know and especially that shorter boxer that was that. Was you know hybrid may but very very good actual boxing kickboxing and that was a beautiful really really amazing approach. Trevor. Women's I mean I was always a fan but actually being able to sit with them in his office and talk and he's going to send the pads of so excited I can restructuring people who are At least my kid. My girlfriend but he's in the semi a whole like the whole bottle thing they make it onyx but he's a smart guy man he and he's he's trained guys. Wbz champions in boxing so like okay. That's a high level boxer. And he's he's you know. He's one of these coaches he's like. I am like what we're real stream of everything is broken down like an annoying level but if if if you wanna be able to you know I I didn't I didn't get stick there but I get the respect of getting there being a beating some people that are eight no and I I am. I was like I was. I was considered the best person in the world of awkward. That's cool yeah you know. That's it's neat and now I'm Kinda coming back now I'm trying to do everything else A lot of things are are Are Or WELLM LIFE. You know like my everything's going great and I'm just excited. It's GONNA come back down and and just start training more 'cause I was lifting weights for a while. I got buff. I gained I was one seventy five at the most fifty now. Imagine how big is that you are five five seventy five lakes. My back is huge. I'm just I'm just stocking Twenty twenty pounds. More up here was just too much. Jesus yeah I feel like weird moving around like okay. Jesus yeah okay. So what happened was I I retired. I've been biohacking since I retired. I'm not gonNA JUST SPORTS. I take a very small saucer on every Because when you have as much brain damage as I have you understand biohacking and how body is is now compromised because of the damage has been done because I it years and years of yeah you punch my whole life. I put myself in the hospital for few days. Snowboarding in my head. Newburgh whole face on the ice And I so I've been I've been taking the same thing peptides peptides from my brain and I take a little bit associated with like that helps my natural system And then I take the regular stroke and that's really all I take him. Sometimes they'll Dallas Physical this is all strike. What do we do this because I again I? I'm fixing my body. Bbc One. Five seven is huge rain. Arriving trophy factor in my favorite thing in the world You know there's a Saas Ruins Great Indo to indulgence gesture on all kinds of stuff. It's just they just all performance stuff and all this is diet and not lifting weights like this is meeting my natural size but I just I I do everything really hard like. I work out really hard and I was working at lifestyle food. Listen beginning to go because I took a year off my life to be a personal trainer. And just 'cause it was fun you know and like I was. I type A really fun time. But now you're here. Yes yeah got a little gross and I had to stop and plus. I got a girlfriend. I'm just I don't WanNa be that anymore. I'm really know I've done a job since I met her. But before that I was on thirty thirty five years old and a boy toy this is not what I want to have a child. I'm a fucking business owner I am. I deserve now. I found it so happy enough. That's awesome house to quarantine been trading. You have you spending a lotta time with your kids and stuff or are you guys done yet. It's great we're having a lot of fun Resort we worked from home. My youngest daughter is she wrote my. My daughter is a She is home schooled. I from here and fifteen rebounds. Home School of the boys are twenty one twenty four spektr grown up And we're just hanging we. Just everyone hangs out and we do stuff like not a bunch of stuff. Together we talk and hang out and he threw himself And it's nice to just beer like it's it's a nice step back out of reality. 'cause reality is a little crazy sometimes and I think everyone needs. Everyone needs to to sit in time out and just realize we will what we're doing is we're refining this up. So bad like we're fucking our planet up so bad and we just got a glimpse of how could fix it in a day or two like a couple a week. Whatever it is to clear the air like and affixed to do things like Michael remediation which is which is how you clean the environment as a whole with mushrooms whether it's out of the ground or they big question Erin chemicals out of the air Or Carbon and which is we need to take that out there. The mushrooms do that people don't know that the and they've also Brad or taught mushrooms over they say to eat plastic and and cigarette butts and soak up radiated spill out of the ground and toxic material and again take it out of the air. So thinking the implication center will I? I haven't even I haven't I've started started. Abramovich visits shoot but I've been talking to some some people in in construction type. Demolition business. Type Stuff. That prince within this mission shaky. If we don't do this like you know like it's just this is show good for the Environment Dude. And that's think of the impact there then some multi trillion dollar business. And you know that's that's I don't even know I don't want that much money that's crazy. I just wanted to be rich. That's I know like who? Why do you? Why do you need all that? Is it's crazy. I know you hear about this billionaires. It's like Jesus Christ like once like yeah I know I know some of whom and some great people like I know the son of very wealthy He's got he's like I don't know I attend these fifty million dollars. Two cars. One of cards is eight million dollars. One of them all allotments wrong. 'cause it's what he does for business and he makes shopping much money and he's twenty two twenty three that any in the thing is is is if if he deserves it. He's a reese the guys of businessman he crushes it weighs in the gym day. Eats healthy like doesn't drink or wiggle little baby barely birthday or something. Like doesn't smoke. We won't even SMOKE KAMAZ MEDICALLY FRY be fun. There's some Potomac great people but then some of them are fucking monsters tune and they just. You're just you're just in there the radius so he hang out like some of these in the paying out with him again just like. I don't WanNa be here right now. Please imagine that much money. It's like the world where the rules don't apply to you because you just bypass them all you know you literally own fucking everything. Yeah I definitely. I'm sure it changes you. Have you guys seen It's a spend bill. Gates's money dot com they liberty virtual coins. The exact amount of money. He has at that time. And you try to spend it and it's not anyone's ever come below like a billion dollars like it's crazy like how much money is constantly. Yeah Yeah I think they did a thing where they tried. They bought it like every single. Nba team every single airline. He's still had like billions of dollars. Leftover it was fucking crazy. Yeah sounds about right yeah. That's that's crazy. I mean cool. That's that's I don't know I want. I have a lot of a lot of fun my like. I have a lot of fun my life's Kuwait and I don't that. Sounds that sounds hectic. They call yeah like being what with Don that you know like what Jesus Christ like if I just feel like. There's pressure on me to do something with that. You know it's GonNa on now. I'm thinking more people popped in my head that I know and the be in their baby. Now that I've met I've against summer arrived people. You're like what what did you do like. Oh my God and I get. It sounds expensive like Jesus but then again you you you. There's different types of all people but in poor people are shitty. Do some of them are super destroy. Happens people it's human condition. That's why we do psychedelics. That's why teach psychedelics. Everyone is afflicted with human condition As as terrence mcdonagh said so You know we can fix nation cycles. Go don't do them but I'm telling you responsive Ian I want to ask you. I know Santa Cruz just in January past are. They decriminalized mushrooms in their area. Can you tell us maybe a little bit of like what we're going to be seeing like up? How are they going to regulate it? As far you might not know. Are you might know but like like tests or any way that they're going to try to get people. I work with the with the I. Don't WanNa be that guy but yeah you know just so. Yeah so put it this way. I make sure so we can show our legitimacy of the people that I work with We check the box on everything. I mean politically the activism stuff You know the psycho spiritual get into the shamanistic side. The science side the performance side. We do all of it you know. And the political side with decriminalize Ryan men avars though is our fearless leader You know we're not we can't do it for two more years now because they didn't let us And I I mean I don't know we would have had the signatures. I mean if if anyone can pull it off Ryan Cam. He's he's a genius crazy And it didn't happen because with grown. Now detroiter Idaho and and you know us so we have. We have two and a half year. Yeah because if Kobe Ninety eight we have. We have two and a half years to make this to make the stigma go away and if people to realize how much healing is happy because dude you can kill everything this even like. I don't have any arthritis more. I've had three service here to breaks to infections Fracture dislocation four surgeries Desks Bulging Mr. Which term twice my collarbone twice But my hip my groin tour. All that my knees Yeah it hurts but I don't. I don't have any pain anymore. We'll very very little. I mean just I will also. I work out every day like not day but I do stuff. I'm an average person. I'm sure for sure enough more than me I am. I have a lot of energy. I eat really healthy is. That's just how I eat. 'cause I you know I was able to heal my daughter with you know. Diet and exercise and cannabis oil she got and And she had jewelry which on right and she couldn't walk and now you today and she's exactly which turned out. She's a super super athlete. And she's you know she's she's home schooled so she's like ahead of the curve. You know that stuff. And she's you know like she's out wake boarding right now. We have a Sushi's she's always doing something riding a horse. She's a new horses crispus. That was pregnant. It's all you got horses school right. There is always stuff always things to do like. She's she's Oh did she. She can through gainers into the pool or like a phone pet. And just you know like the booster snore. Like she's really cool and she's Shitsu of course she choke him off of her out or be three girls up in soccer. She's crazy shit. They were I took her picked. I picked her up learning to the answer I talked to him on. I talked to my parents or side. The other kids parents apologized to excuse the picking out of all the time. Say asking and you told me to. I can punch them and one girl. shoulder she showed the robot or she fell over dropped and like trying to refrain grapage. Drop that girl and the third one ran away so that's fuck of my kid doesn't moldy she's she's she's a okay. Look this isn't a we live. We live in. We live in an amazing area where we life is great like we. I. She's she's her life's Graydon's right. Awesome like she has a lot of fun. But there's creeps everywhere and there's a lot of creeps saw the light. I grew up with I. I'm I'm a proud. Protector of young female just females in general you know like I'm not afraid of anything for most of the time And I just I I have that that. What's what I've always done. You know and I you know I another have a daughter. She's my only one like I don't. I don't my girlfriend's forty seven McKay. She has four kids. We're not gonNA have kids And that's fine So I I just. I have to teach her everything she knows. I'm not coach or teacher her. We do a lot of stuff together especially during court. During a Corinthian we fleet. We do a lot of fun stuff. A lot of exercising the pool like she. She'll run along the bottom of the pool Iraq and come back up. Don't back into run all the whole She's crazy. Jesus Christ. I saw I had a we. Were on the pull this athlete. I it's not a very big old. It's expect medium-sized right. Like I raised my brother-in-law from one in back I didn't make it back all the way I just. My lex King gave out one hundred underneath the water underneath going going going that way and then on the coming back was I was on the outside but I was new. Need the on the first time when I was going way. Back away to like three quarters of all know that sucks. It's not a you gotta for this. This race them. Tax Research which should widow impromptu. You still work in what I since. quarantine started and then. I got laid off like I've been working out a lot. I mentioned earlier. Play basketball my dad we picked up a hoop so in doing that My Dad writes a motor motorcycle. He writes a mountain bike mountain bike pretty much every day now in the orange gene so I started riding my bike again. Just trying to catch up with him. Because I'm not going to let this seventy year. Old Man's eat this thirty young but he was telling me like he was really proud of a basketball. I'm going to bet seventy happen. Also again beat. I'm Super Fat. So he seventy and I'm super fat. That's like equal around one hundred. I don't know about that. Your heart is being a seventy year old INSERTIVE. Sure GETTING WORSE. Than Your My. My brother's getting fat. And I'm like Dude. You're GONNA get diabetes. Like dude of a real. I like I teach. I travel the planet and I teach health and wellness. Like this. What I do marketing. Your and your he was an ex fighter and he killed her on the Olympics in that da diving on and unlike do your you know what do I have to do duties? He's not listening. So don't don't let them do it as a fat man. It's with Krona School. Yeah it's scary. You don't want to do it when you I. I am bigger me to know that if I get it I don't have. I might not have a chance of surviving. Do that your Pamela. Yeah does actually so yeah. That's one of the biggest pushes I think for me like making sure. I'm playing basketball every day or swimming or on the buying audio as the audio yeah. It's like I'm good. I can hear all of you guys like it's cutting off stat lacking here the yard line what we interest. Yeah I think we're good Episodes we're trying our best year but yeah no I think just making sure your windows decided should this fucking guy. I think it's just about staying active man because like you know we got a lot of time on our hands. Might as well be doing stuff. I'm still working on all day burden. I'm not I'm thinking. Most most people like a good amount of people have a lot of time on their hands and they shouldn't be moving. You know you're eating at home. You should be eating healthy food me like we cook. You know to to a and I are healthy. We eat healthy. I probably too much cereal. That's the one thing I I shouldn't need as much because I'm working at my computer On my phone I mostly would literally just got a laptop. And you get the new one just barring this but You know it's like I'm always on like this thing mostly but I go to my office to. I guess but that's that's only two weeks. I I I don't know I don't have to. Nothing's going on our. We've got a lot going on there but things that I that don't like I. It's a it's a cannabis distribution center It's called the hive and it you know. There's there's it's thinking about. It's a distribution center for dispensaries. So that's crazy while lot of product knows. Yeah and that's that's where that's that's the marketing part of my office. I beg it's ripe. The attached to that like we have all staged and sounds. You know sound stage of Deejay booth like the the main guy that runs it is He's you know was the band was a sound. I HIS WHOLE LIFE. And so do we have the sickest setup with big projector and we're gonNA start putting on content there and just be able to have private events with literally just a dozen people like nothing big our just hanging two warehouse stage a boy band now. I play my first instrument. The boxing it like me. Whatever that is. What's called for all song? Behrman I I don't know I have no idea what I have no idea. I have no clue. I was in that and I was begging to claim. Took my shirt. I was my birthday. That's my answer and it's the office so we just have fun so we do this for you know so of course distributorship jokes bang on stuff and shaking things. Banda Band's called yet but that's the only time you have like a few on names and how people voted about ankle. Freebies BE FUN guy. Uncle Uncle Ian in the creeps. Go done yeah the fun guy. That's a pretty cool name. Jared at the end. I can see a fun guy. Yeah this is the go. Finish up with the shirt from Brooklyn and I was looking at. Yeah I guess you play it like burning men. Next year brothers played birthday but yet to buy buy tickets are selling look really crazy. The cities and Shit like it looks like an experience for share so much used to build it and break everything down for do lab and he was suspend there and he was a burner shows he was that was a weird time in his life. Now I go to all these parties that are pre imposed burning man. People that are there and dude EPI. It's I've never seen more beautiful creatures in my life or they're just there's crowds of hot chicks staring at you like me like you. Did I put on that ball? What is happening like this far social media and I remember. I remember when I was in high school. I would hear about burning man just being like this crazy like orgy place and then I found out like art festival that also probably orgies but either way I was like dude. I want to go there when I grow up and still haven't been. There's there's an orgy there's an yet. There's an orgy tent. Oh so there's a whole ten for orgies their hair and I I I would. Yeah and I'M GONNA go this year But I didn't because of Crohn's happening But students those parties like everyone so as far as you're so nice and it's just like it's just it's Jack The Jungle House party that I went to Downtown la by a train station and due was really fun. And you know it's just your it's just a really like I recommend going to those things very much. So do I where people put like. They're just it's interesting fun. Everyone's happy and nice. Yeah it's like whatever with Toronto music straight to the and sounds like tickets Bernie man probably expensive the at least two hundred bucks. I'll probably not more a couple of grand. I think how much how much time do we have? The we have time left. We have like seven minutes left. What happened nothing? What do you mean? Holiday E. N. D. WanNa tell us about your just launched a website right or has been I just find out about it for a little bit I never will sorry kitchen by websites. it is the McCall from. Not Mccall because then you will come to a fair this middle aged woman. That's a physical therapist. I haven't seen it yet. But I gotTA look it up. Mccall method dot Com and Eddie Coleman as the world's first psychedelic integration coach for high-level sports or performance about you know it's about no mindset voters. Tabibian that's the deepest parts of your psyche with psychedelics and with rest for meditation date daily practice of of being better versus like realistically like you're a fighter. You're tortured you know a lot of athletes and the successful fucking torture and I've I've reached a elite status. Nfl from elite status. Without really. Hang on you know it just in Chicago and you know I went to jail when I was in the in the AFC at my House. Like what would what the fuck happened like. This was a drug dealer and I was like I don't do that. I my daughter's like one years old but I stopped before when I found out actually was pregnant. Vish Ella like it was something did do I get a tip they mike you guys are assholes. Shit but You know it was just a thing like that should happen to me while I was in the Z. Ilisu the best fighter in the world like what am I you know it was. My life was down it just went. They went off the the rails. I Yeah I did a lot of Shit and you know. That's just not a good look from ASELTINE FEMA call or write also hang on my side and then my education at my healing myself Throughs works with work in psychedelics. But also man I'm telling you the Collagen side of secondary's the breaking down. You know the the stories we tell ourselves. Yeah that's one of the most interested. Yes so the integration. Most you have setting tensioning things. Sorry let them talk. Pablo God picking back. Then think are good again for what's out with here late. Okay Audio Talk Talk. You'd say plug shed shed back but with with with psychedelic the the most important Most important part is the immigration. After is how you're going to integrate the things you learn the Injured daily life in the daily breakfast figuring things out. You know you hearing someone talk about themselves and by the way about situation in life and just kind of being able to to help them change that you know. Don't don't say those things like that. Change this up you know. Let's work on this. Let's both do breath work. Let's go through meditation. Of course I'm working with fighters I'll go over technique and over the mindset was performers about going on stage our actually fighting near you break all that stuff down mentally you know through psychedelic words and then plus having you can microdosing the AFC. You can take mush sheet. They're they're they're they're okay with it like they know that. I've sat with them. They know they are openly. Say Tell tell everyone what you're doing. Great Element you talk to us that But but I'm I'm also showing the performance benefits of the body and the mind while you're on my progressives now while you're on a on a lower amount of seconds they say so up sub perceptual dunks. But it's athletes like Kinda go a little higher met. So you're it's for sexual But there's heightening of all your senses can see better. You can analyse everything better. Everything's broken down. You can see there Microaggressions in their face and posture. And their you know their breath and their footwork's rushing study someone like I always did You CDs and people don't you and I I was good at that And then you know you realize how. How did you did not just a diet? But you know the the performance like the micro notion that you. I don't get people medicine like this is the illegal selves. That's one thing I would say. Drug dealer sorry But you know you blend. I recommend certain one for this person. They wanted to accomplish this. You know whether it's inflammation based or the tropics value base oil or cardio base. You know with dilation like some quarters of mushrooms. Most Burger Cardio have Lion's Mane mushroom like a protective value neutral You know you have something that blabber for absorption and then you have two hundred and CDs you have a whole blend of things a breakdown information and then you have something that's I'm not trying to heighten your heart your body this year but hiding this. You fucking math you'll EMC you know you're doing. I WanNa hang your brain and I want to help you get in there and figure all this shit out and I a lot technically so I can help break down. And they're not biased. I I WANNA I WANNA blame into a team adapt and I help. Teach all shit. I knew all of it so I just like working with people. I like know how them knowing. I don't WanNa step on toes weird just like you're a cycle. What coach for my fighter? The Fuck Outta here thinking about that. I'm coaching being invited to the AFC. By Jeff VICI and having being able to talk to fighters this that's what he wants me to physicist onto buildings steadier this and you hear the reaction and people love it. 'cause a Lotta people are already microdosing but people doing it wrong. And the most of their microdosing long. But I'm sure there might be to And you know it's it's it's about putting actual science because I I'm surrounded by it And that's what I do all day It's a lot fun you know. But naturally actually in the nutrition and knowing the performance and then having access to you know the athletes to put on is. It's a big blend of things that I all. I have all right now. It's great I'm working with people. I'm talking to a lot of people it's really added from all different walks of life from reg. Slavs say where You know it's it's it's nicest people taking me serious like they're you know people are like. 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TMHS 385: How To Use Strategy & Structure To Crush Your Biggest Goals - With Guest Steve Weatherford

The Model Health Show

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TMHS 385: How To Use Strategy & Structure To Crush Your Biggest Goals - With Guest Steve Weatherford

"You're listening to the model show with Shawn Stevenson for more visit. The model health show DOT com. Welcome to the model host show. This is fitness nutrition expert Shawn Stevenson. And I'm so grateful to meet with me today. This has been of adventure for me me all ready this. I've trained gyms all over the world. I've been some cool places different countries and train. The different gyms obviously all over the country entry here in the US but living in La. Now I'm wondering is this some kind of epidemics with people being unable to react. The wait is it like some kind of a mental barrier. I don't know am I just being too hard on my new city but other places I've gone. There's a little bit of civility. We can re reckon the weight and at this gyms close to my house. So I'll go there. You know on the on the fly and they've got a sign up at the gym. It's a change him. You Know Franchise Jim and the sign says please don't drop the weights heaven forbid forbid you drop weights and you get about about it in your you know you're doing some dead lifts and throwing the weights around. We don't want that here but please absolutely toss elsewhere all over the place you leave him scattered no toss him lay them down. These guys were lifting doing Doing squats three plates on each side of the bar. dysle- fit the etiquette right. And I just felt like you know. What if grandma comes as she wants to use this quite right? Because you know there's only one a lot of these gyms and she's got to try to unload three fifteen right so little courtesy all right. Maybe I'm not trying to. I'm not complaining person but it's an observation all right so but that's what you get when you are not able to control the circumstances rice. Bryson gyms are awesome and it really just kind of depends on your personality type whether or not you enjoy going to a gym but now today like there's so many cool things that you can do this different types of gyms. Of course you've got the franchise Type Jams you've got specialty gyms. You've got a box gyms across boxes and things like that So many different things that you can take advantage of but remember this. Remember this always when it comes to working out. The most important form of exercise is the exercise you'll do and so. Oh you might not need to go to a gym. That might not be Your Cup of Chai. It might not be Your Cup of powder Arco or cat's claw but for you is is finding out like listen. I really love to roller skate right. So giving yourself permission to do that. I love the play basketball. I love to play squash. All right squash might might be your jam right and so give yourself permission to do the thing that you will do that you enjoy doing and if you could sprinkle strength training it is super valuable. If not the most Highest leverage to form of exercise. And we're talking about the actual implementation of the Exercise Strength Training. He's pretty powerful. And so speaking of my franchise. Jim Drove there today. You know it's going to get it in before the show and this La so another thing. I've noticed is yeah the traffic Israel Israel. I hear all right. So it's quick to get there but coming back and so I- drive to to the gym and guess what is closed close at nine. Am Why they're doing remodeling modeling but again I can't control the situation so I'm just like oh my I can't believe this and so now I gotta drive back in traffic and this is the height of the traffic. I would miss the height being in the gym training and so so I get I drove got back through it put on a podcast. Make the time worth worth it and beneficial get back home and I'm like here's the thing that I want to take from this. I had an objective. I had a goal had a destination but the strategy or the path to get there had to be adjusted in so many times is in our life when things don't go our way we just throw in the towel and I. I'm person the thought came up of like scrap. Scrap it and I'll do it tomorrow like I'll just you. You know tomorrow be easier. Today's moral no do something do something. It doesn't have to be the big Brawley plan a workout that you had planned to do something right eight because you create habits of not doing as well right. It's not just the habit of doing something. In create habits of not doing or habits of quitting are throwing in the towel and so I got back to my house I saw all these beautiful primal kettlebells look in dead in my face and they were like come. Come pick me up and I was like okay. I saw battle rope. I hadn't even opened my battle rope since I moved a few months ago. You know. I'll use the battled at the gym but they don't have the one I have. I have big red okay. My bad rural peasant name. I didn't even name it on it named it and I I think it's like fifty pounds forty pounds. It's a big fella all right so it's called big red and I put big read through the handles of the Kettlebells I did. Some carries with my kettlebells did some kettlebells swings. And I did some battle rope exercises and something else that I want you to remember is that we have different types of muscle fibers and did a masterclass episode on this talking about the sign's behind high intensity interval training. Let's become just massively popular today. Hey but I been teaching in in working with clients for this. You know at least a decade and it's fascinating because we have different types of muscle fibers. We have slow. Twitch muscle fibers fast twitch various intermediate type muscle fibers as well into really optimize offer. Zeke our health our functionality. We need to be able to train. All of these different different types of muscle fibers. Show them some love. And so this is why I love the battle rope so much because we can utilize are fast twitch muscle fibers with our legs pretty easily. Doing sprints sprints doing sprints on the stationary bike. Things like that. But it's not very often. We have something for upper body that can really activate those fast twitch muscle fibers so effectively. So this why the battle rope and I got my battle rope from on it in a highly recommend you get you one as well get yourself the primal kettlebells there so contractive. They're I mean they're the coolest kettlebells that are out there and also of course we know that on it has earth grow. 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I often find myself listening to an episode two you or even three times because of how much amazingly useful information there is thank you thank you thank you. I can't say it enough. Thank you wow and thank you so much for leaving that review over on apple podcasts. It means so much to me. And listen if you've yet to leave review. Please pop over to apple podcasts and leave a review for the show I appreciate it so very much and on that note. Let's get to our special guests in topic of the day. I shared a story about training and my guest today knows a thing or three thousand about ninety all right this guy played in the NFL. The National Football League for about a decade and he was voted the NFL's fills fittest man twice all right and he was playing at the kicker position as a punter kicking position. I'm the NSA kicker. There's a difference Punter Kicker Acre. But he's just out there crushing it but not just with his physical fitness and his performance on the field but he had a bigger mission. He'll share today. Some of what his goals look like. But now to see them coming to fruition today so powerful because we can again we can get off track of the ultimate destination that we want to arrive at and he's GonNa pour out his heart and soul here today with a lot of passion. He's driven by his very strong faith and he's just made this incredible transformation the last like year and a half or two years ago when I saw him I bumped into him in his mindset was different than it is today I think a big part of that is what you're going to hear is he's is really place a bigger focus on strategy and structure. Because for all of us. There are so many things that we do in our life. We WanNa have a career that we enjoy one and a half great relationships we want be healthy and fit. We won't have time to sleep. Well I wouldn't have great relationships with our kids. If we have kids we want to be able to to make a living so that we can have experiences do different things. We WanNa do this a lot. I understand that because sometimes it can seem like oldest another thing I've gotta do. Oh that's another thing that I'm not doing like Lemme. We gotta strip all that stuff away and understand that we all have the same twenty four hours and there are people who are truly extracting all of the juice out of twenty eighty four hours helpfully because of strategy and structure and so I'm really pumped to share this conversation with you today. You Steve is again. Just such an inspiration for me. Today's chance to open yourself up and just allow an inspiration. Because that's what he's delivering are you so now we're going to jump into this conversation station with the incredible Steve Weatherford. I'm not as concerned with this. Little Baby mullet. Next time it will be a really beefy American Squirrel on the back of my head but for today is just a small hint. beefy American squirrel start to show early. I love love it man. I love what you're going the direction with the hair man movement it's a movement because at the end of the day man like I can be on stage just like everybody else and then you the people see you from the front and like all right you know. Here's another like it. Looks to be in shape so he's either a military guy reformer pro athlete. He's got the hair but then when I turn into the side what I envisioned in my mind is this haircut. Is this style when people see these locks their instantly just going to smile because there's going to be no way they're going to see it and think I think that I'm taking myself seriously and instantly is going to be an icebreaker and they they're gonna WanNa know more about me not because of muscles or this or a super bowl ring. They're they're going over here. I love this army so I had visited for my hair to be the ultimate icebreaker. I I just want to be approachable. Yeah I love him man. I love that so much. The man like. That's that's the thing about you like. I just love you so much and just hanging around you. Your energy is instantly. Just you make people feel at home. You make people feel welcome even in here with my team and I love you so much man you brush your family with you a little a little nugget little piece of your an installment a layaway of my family. So your son and we were just talking about the last time that I saw you. This has been. She brought her two years ago. When you're on the show and he got out there he was playing basketball? How how does he now? He's turning twelve tomorrow that's why he's with me is so you and I had spoken and I was like man you know what dude got put on a heart man like i WanNa have you on my show and you know really hey do a volume type of thing and then I turn this whole thing into like a birthday celebration for my son. So thank you for agreeing to do this with meet today. Because is that allowed me to be able to have another opportunity to where it's like two birds with one stone and honestly I believe that is what life is about as making alignments that actually make the the things that you want to do easier to do when I say alignments about like friendships and like when I called you probably pretty weird text message. I'm like Hey God place it on my heart. I need to have a conversation with you or like November nineteenth lost you there. You know what I mean so I wanted to honor you and thank you for just just trust in me that God placed something on my heart that we're supposed to talk about the day and honestly I still don't know what that is But did thanks for trusting that and just giving me space to be able to to tell the story that's going to happen happening down on what it is but I wanted to reverse that honor I receive it but I want you to have. It is well because I admire you for so many reasons that have nothing nothing to do with this podcast. If people that are listening to this right now could could get an opportunity not to know. Because I'll tell you right now so you'll know but actually get an opportunity return to feel your real nece in your uniqueness. You're never trying to be like somebody else. Because you see guys winning when I think of view and get a text message pop up from you just like I have a random thought and you know you get these Texas message messages that you get from me I want you to know I don't do that for everybody else. I want you to know that God speaks to me about you. And that's why you get these weird text messages from me with. Some of them are videos at some of voice memos but I just wanted to start this show off by giving you the honored that you deserve because you're unique and I don't do the things like the weird things that I don't want you know everybody doesn't get that part of me and it's because God has highlighted you in my life and that's why I believe I'm here today And I'm just really really excited to to have this space but to share the space with you because alignment into dozen nineteen has been such a powerful word for me and I've been doing my best every single time time I have an idea I think of somebody in my mind taking bold action without really knowing why I'm Texan this person but just went when I feel like God puts somebody in my mind. Just take action and I just let it figure itself out kind of like what we're GonNa do here today is we're going to figure this thing out but I just wanted. Thank you and honor you for just trusting that it was going to be something substantial. They said I received that man. I was not expecting. My heart is overflowing man. Thank you so much I mean with that man and and You know like you just said just taking this in the direction that you know it's going to be an adventure right but I think the adventure begins where we are all right now and where we are is traveled up here from down around San Diego. You Bet trip with your son design and your wife and you guys are going to do a really powerful experience in alignment with this moment. And you're taking him to Lakers game today and we were just talking about. And you're the first person person that I've heard articulate this outside of something I kind of mentioned on the show before but for me just ten seconds it was when I was I just turned my health around and I was passionate about serving helping other people but I was watching every cardinals baseball game on television. Say Lewis has called baseball heaven right right and so but it just struck me one day. I'm sitting there doing my homework watching trying to do programs for my clients and I realize I'm watching them be great eight like I'm making sure I may schedule my time so I can watch other people be great not that. There's anything wrong with that but I wanted to express my own greatness and you shared that you're not a big fan. You like going to sporting events which kind of people throw them because you are former superstar in the NFL Super Bowl champion. You know but that's not your bag. Why is that? I I WANNA correct. Your language is not the self promoting me. I'm not a former champion anything man. I'm a champion in this day. I wake up every single day to remind my son that he's a champion so love you. I'm not a former anything. Man I am current and and it's not because of a team that I was on and I want to get to that question so give me that question again but I just wanted That's one of the things I believe. Maybe as a message for for some of US just not some of us all of us and that's the language we speak out of our mouth but also the language that we Let people speak on you and I know you minute from a loving place but just Just interrupting in a from a loving place and letting them I know the language they speak to you. how you want to be addressed and And that's a mindset to me every single day when I wake my son up because I had had an incompleteness to my childhood. My Dad was amazing but he never told me that he was proud of me. Never once and never told me that I was a champion so every single day that I wake my son up by Sheikh is it's just sometimes I put it on instagram story I sheikh is just an essay. Wake up champion. Dad's proud of you but we've got work to do In so I know I just went off on that tangent engine. I want to get back to your questions so I love that man. Thank you so much for titillating that because I think a lot of us see our our life in these chapters and don't see continuous threat of being a champion and I said former player by the way now for me you know. Yeah no I get it but in my mind when people say like he's a former super bowl champion or a former pro athlete. Did in my mind. You didn't say anything wrong. That just teed me up for something that I've been thinking about and consciously Chesley in-intentionally trying to speak over my son To your question you were asking me what it was like to play sports and you were you and I were talking before we hit record word about. I never went to a pro game until I actually played in one in the reason being it wasn't that I didn't want to go. I just didn't have that that opportunity to go but then when I had an opportunity to play in it and my son wants to go to the Lakers game tonight to me. It's not something that I'm super excited about. And I've always been too busy to really go to sporting events but after my pro career is over now have opportunities to go watch people play college football or or you know other. NFL Games NBA Games. MLB Games they're not that much fun to me. You know and I'm not saying that like oh I've been there done that it's honestly it's because I'm like so hyperactive apor active. When I see people doing things I actually just WanNa go try it with them? Not because I think I can do a better but I just. I'm in love with action. I'm in love with boldness because because it always leads to something new and I feel like I'm continuously like Hungary. I finally gotten to a point in a season of my life were I'm Sousse. I'm satisfied in Hungary at the same time like I'm so fulfilled with what God's given me but I'm so hungry for for more I just just want to be in the game. I guess that's what I'm trying to say is like watching it on TV. I do that with my son. Because that's kind of like our chance to bond on something but I don't like wasn't athletes play sports. No I love listen to speakers speak because I believe there's something there for me but watching people's play sports unless it's great and I can get inspired from that watching other people's greatness just makes me wanna go be great with them And so it's it's a restless restless feeling when I watch sports. That's powerful man so what I'm hearing is over the past few years or is this something that was early on but you were. You really know yourself you know where you're getting to. Yeah and being able to hear that message from yourself that you get restless watching You know pro athletes do their thing but and I just want to. Paraphrase is free for everybody said it is a great source to extract some inspiration But for some of us we need it For some some of us it can be great training for our minds and for some of us we need to get in the game and for you right now. Being able to watch speaker speaker speak yeah and to watch greater messages. That's where you're at. Yeah that's the season I meant you know and I'm sure when I was a kid my son's age would've cut my arm off to be able to go watch Kobe. Bryant or you know Michael Jordan Larry Bird Magic Johnson play But right now I I guess I WANNA watch watching. I want to be around what I would become greater at And I'm in a season of my life right now. Where because of alignments that's been my word all year because of alignments I've been able to create partnerships and my supplement company I've been able to create partnerships in different businesses? That I own one hundred percent of and honestly I felt like I was a slave to them. Meaning like it's it's not GonNa be successful where it's not gonna it's not GonNa grow or things are going to get better without me and as you know man when you get involved in these different things. It doesn't matter how passionate you are if you are passionate about. It's almost even worse because then you're torn between these things and if you accelerate one business you're even looking over your shoulder and be like man and this business could be done better and so then you run over here and you work on this business and then you look over your shoulder your notice. Your marriage is completely falling apart. She run over here. And you work on your marriage and then look over your shoulder and this other businesses about to go into foreclosure or you can't make the no or you know what I mean. Insert here and it's a game that Mitt especially frigging men play with ourselves those because we value our our like our existence our worthiness on what were able to produce. And so that really drove me crazy because when men and especially like somebody from like Tara Hood Indiana like me Your Midwest Guy Man like you know how how important important people view a hard worker you know like almost like the most honorable due to the Midwest is a guy that has like worn out jeans in a circle in his back pocket it from skull ring that he's been sitting in his tractor and you know he's got holes that are just worn in like these genes that you and I have on but we paid money to have holes in ours but that's the type of guy in in the Midwest that is like a man's man and a man's man doesn't isn't hyper aware of himself the way that you and I are continually trying to become. But they're they're incomplete is men because they view their whole value as protect provide preside. There's nothing in there about the the evolution Russian of the culture of your family and breaking generational curses and mindsets and not repeating those behavioral cycles. That will done to view to your kids just because you grew up. A certain way doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to get done but I believe a man's man is almost kind of like conditioned to do it like your dad. Did it because we make excuses for our dad. If your dad like had too much to drink at family gatherings and you go to family gathering your dad has too much to drink. What are people going to say? Well that's just dad You know it's it's just dead. They chalk it up to being just dead. What about if my mission is to call the men fourth? That don't WANNA be they don't want to be. Oh that's just dad. They want to be the person that breaks generational curse. You don't have permission to do the same things that drove you nuts as a kid as an adult just because your daddy did it. You know what I mean and so. I'm just super motivated about that. Because I feel that that just speaks to the hearts of entrepreneurs worse because how often do we pinball back and forth and continuing never feel fulfilled because we have that perfectionist syndrome. Of like if everything's is not tied up and everything's not tight everything's not automated. Everything's not planned out and everything's strategize. We can't rest. We're setting ourselves up for failure. Sure you know what I mean. Because we're we've created a game that we can't win And it's just an exhaustive hamster wheel and I've done it and I'm coming out of that season season and gaining more clarity and being able to look at my life as like bubbles and where. I'm spending my time. I have four four ways as that I- gauge. Whether or not it's somewhere I want to be spending my time for example like my podcast. There's four ways that I that I rank it. The first one is going to be be a heart symbol. Like how much of my heart is in podcasting. The next thing is how much money does that bring in the next one is. How much time does that require of me? And the last last one is how much impact the hat does that have. And so when I create these different bubbles on a on a whiteboard and I look at it with my wife and my assistant and my team the you know my backbone backbone and my mentors were able to see if we're I'm spending my time is exactly where I need to be spending my time because our goal in my life in in our life there's a company and as my personal brand is every single bubble that I'm spending my time. Is it ten all the way across the board except for time so I wanna be a tent. I Want my heart to be on fire for podcast. I wanted to bring in a ten and money. I wanted to acquire his little amount of time as possible. And I want it to be ten and impact so I'm not going to be able to change. My podcast attest to make it that way. Unless that is my intention and so what I think mapping it out with all these different bubbles. You know one could be podcast. One could be my supplement company one could be content creation. Listen one could be speaking one could be one on one coaching. You do those ranking systems. Where's your heart at for it? How much money does it bring in? How much time does it require? And how much impact does it make it. If you if you create a system for your life what what like what I'm drawn out for you and you actually look at it bitchy. Stir spending your time differently you you know what I mean. We got eighty six thousand four hundred seconds today but man. I'm looking at my watch right now. That's today I'm looking at my watch. Is November nineteenth. When we're recording this thing right now? Do we got like six weeks. Left less than six weeks left in this decade in this decade. Don't look at it like a year. We got sick like six weeks left in this decade when this thing comes out I don't know how much time people were going to have but the point is be bold to action. You know what I mean. It's great to measure things out and and get clear on where you want to spend your time. You know where you want to be on fire How much impact you want that thing to have? But then when you get clarity on it take bold action and I like for people listening to this right now like it happens right now. It doesn't happen you know like Oh that sounds doing my vital signs and mapping out those little bubble sounds like a good idea. Uh I'm GonNa do that next week. You know what I mean Dude. Hit Pause and do it right now. Get clarity right now and they come back and hit and hit play again and then in tune in for the rest of what God's going to tell you his podcast because I'm telling you that right. There has just given me insane clarity of what I really wanted my life. Yeah and then where I I WANNA spend my time to be able to live my life by design versus by default. Because if I don't pay attention to every single one of those bubbles and maybe there's something that my heart is a two two in the impact is a two but maybe it's bringing me ten cash And one time for something like that. How do I make my heart at ten for that because it brings is and money? So how do I change that model. So I'm on fire for it because it already seems to be Something that brings in money. So can I make that impactful and can I make that something that makes my heart sing if I can't cut the arm off because you're not losing something by letting that go direction creating more space in your life for your passions since to live. Does that make sense absolutely. So where do you do. Use these four categories with your family structure as well and strategy. Oh no doubt dude. Every single Tuesday My wife was I just. I wish he was here to to to to share this but we take six hours. I know it sounds like a lot but it started at two in the next month I went the three the next month and went to force. We've been working on this for awhile but where it sits right now. Is I have six hours with my wife. Every Tuesday we spend the first two hours on our family and just picture. Did I got five kids so I just pictured that like a business so the first thing we do is we sit With we don't sit with every kid but we talk about every every single kid like where are they at with their personal development. Where the at in school like? Where's their spirit? Are they discouraged. Are they motivated. Are they challenged. Like where are they. So what that does for all these five kids and the leaders of the family is my wife and I are able to collectively get singularity vision for for that that kid because I'm out doing my thing and she's out doing her thing and a lot of the times we're doing it together but we're not sitting here. She's not sharing every single thing about that kid during the week so what it does for. Every single kid has every seven days. I'm able to circle back on where that kid is With my wife. So the collective effort that Her and I make towards that development of that kid is right on right on pace and his right on pulse. We know exactly what we are doing for that. We do that for each individual kid. It takes about twenty minutes each kid and we're just doing passively relaxing. The next thing we do is we spend an hour proactively looking at our business. Okay what fires do we need to put Out in our different businesses. We have three different businesses that we manage by the grace of God you know. They're all seven-figure businesses and we love all of them so we take care of problems for one hour our strategically together and then that allows us to know you know she takes care of a lot of the back with our team in Orlando and do a lot of the front end. We're able to come together on where that's at and then the next hour. Is We talk about our marriage like the backbone and the foundation for all of this stuff and for anything that's been weighing on her heart over the last six days. This is her opportunity. I just give her space Sean. I just give her space. Mana Blake Babe like how are you. This gives her an opportunity to just just sit back and just do a body scan. Do Spirits Gan. You know what I mean like. How're you and when she shared that that with me she knows I'm not gonNA try to jump in and problem solve it? She knows this is her time to just speak if ends up turning into a vomit session where she's just complaining complaining complaining complaining. I'm not going to jump in and be like don't speak like that. We don't speak that language on our family cut. I did a little bit with you. You know this is how I want to be addressed type of thing and and I don't do that Sir. I just let her do her thing. And that just allows me as a husband and as a leader of my home to be able to feel where she sat not to listen to her words which is like as husbands and CEO's and stuff that's what we do we listen to words and then we tactically try to figure those things out and give guidance and vision right it. I don't that's not what I do with my wife right here. You know what I mean. This is not a problem solving session. This is her just telling me where she's at. So how hard was that for you to do. Oh Oh dude. It was like the most uncomfortable thing ever because when my wife is saying like this bothers me and this person said this and all these different things is men dude. I'm getting like I'm getting a stick in my spine. I'm sitting up straight on puffing up my chest because I want to be reactive to the pain my wife is experiencing right. It makes sense ends dude. We we protect and we we provide preside right the man code But with maturing actually asking her like how is this GonNa work well for you. She's like honestly. I don't need you to solve my problems. I don't need you to fight my battles I just need you to listen to them And then once I was able to Fricken can master just shutting up in her space. You know what I mean absolutely dude. It's the easiest thing for men because we think we need to go out and do you know. Go out and conquer her. Go Out and problem solve Gordon. Put out the fire when honestly men were driving ourselves. Crazy is really and the women listen to this. Can I get an amen. All you gotTa do is just listened and give them space in order to have an amazing relationship. Sean you need four things. The person and this is not just for you. Know significant others this is in the business business workplace. This is Being the team captain of the New York football giants whatever it is in relationships. There's four very simple bull very simple relationship kind of core principles. These are the things that people need. They need four things they need to feel loved supported seeing in unheard. You want to build a better relationship with your son. Making filled love supported. Seen and heard you want more intimacy with your wife or with your husband make them feel love supported seen scene and heard you WANNA promotion at your job make your your boss for love supported seen and heard I mean you want to get the most out of a team of thirty people bull make them feel loved supported seen and heard it is a magical recipe to winning it's a magical recipe for fulfilment it's a magical recipe speak for connection love supported seen and heard like that is the code in my family here in. So what's the side effect for you doing that. You know because when when I hear this. I know that the argument is that this takes time to do this. It takes intention was the benefit for you. Everybody wants everybody was twenty. Men went twenty arms. Women want a tiny waist. You know an steeply rump. At takes time. You'RE NOT GONNA do it in thirty days so for for me when I'm actually like strategically looking at my life. It's you know when we were talking about the vital signs you you're thinking about really just thinking about your time as currency Consi like what I'm putting into this bubble. What am I getting out and not? Just it's not just a quantifiable metric that I'm getting out. That's money because notice the last thing I put on there and the most important thing I put on there is the first in the last thing your heart and your impact if your heart is an impact or your heart is attend then in your impact is at ten you can find a way to make money with Sean. That's not it's so easy to make money with what you love and with what is impactful. That's that's what you're doing right now. Think about what you're doing. We were in Los Angeles in. If it wasn't for this microphone and people to hear you you would live in Los Angeles. You know what I mean and you'd be in Saint Louis doing whatever you were doing before you decided to follow your calling to do this. You know what I mean so like when you think about when you think think about it like that it was an impact thing for you. It was a heart thing for you. And guess what we're in Los Angeles right now. This is one of the most expensive cities ever in this. The studio is amazing. You got three cameras you got caught or you got. Eric Got Brian Right. So you get these three guys. You're employing them because you followed your heart and what was impactful and guess what now you generate enough money with with people wanting to support your cause and the things that you believe in that. You're you're making his dream come. True and Eric's dream come true and Brian's dream come true because because you followed your heart what set you on fire and God gave you a way to make money with it. That's the same thing I'm doing. You know what I mean. Did we are winning because without you really even known donate your following the the roadmap vitals of your vital signs so you have clarity of vision and that's what allows you to freaking go like five thousand. RPM's at this vision vision in this dream that you have and still have like the peacefulness to get your free can sleep. Because I know this important to you. These four ingredients it creates a recipe of happiness. Success fulfilment and. That's what we get as the side effect of taking taking the time in the energy necessary to share these things with our families and I want to go through this or your boss but more even deeper than than than fulfillment all that stuff sean. That's legacy you know what I mean because my dad grew up with his dad not seen. I love you and I'm proud of you. And not calling him champion and guess what I broke that off. Dude so guess what just with me. Not even thinking about trying to break that off but I was just trying to make my son. Philip supported seen and heard what's going to make him feel supported seen and heard hearing from his dad. Had I love you son. I'm so proud of. You're a champion. Boom in that moment generational curse broken because I had intention attention and I just followed that. I just wanted to love supported seen and heard so. If you're listening to this and your own how do I do that. Just think about what would it take for them to fill love supported scene and hurt and I don't want you to think that it means going out and doing things men sometimes making somebody feel love supported seen and heard is just sitting back making you know really really engaged. I contact with somebody and just letting them know you're connected to them and what they're saying and letting them go that makes people love supporter seen heard and it cost zero energy. I love so much. It's such a simple principle. You know but I wanNA dissect these pieces a little bit because I would imagine. Imagine that your strategy. Because that's the thing that we talked about prior to doing this that you're really excited about is putting together strategy and structure structure to really be able to enjoy your life right which just sounds like everybody should be doing it but a Lotta Times just going through the motions. I would imagine that. You've you realize that showing demonstrating love for different. People requires different things so loud languages dude since we were just talking about your son in this birthday experience so this is one of the things that can be utilized to demonstrate. Love is experiences right. So let's talk a little bit about that like what what do you do for your kids is it. Is there a principal or or an intention about exposure. Is it the words that you say like. What do you do differently for your kids that you might not well in in order for for their mom and I know exactly what they need? It takes that intentional meeting which I call it intentional dating that six hour and I didn't even tai-bo on that so by the time we ended up doing all that different meeting business stuff and family stuff we take the toot last two hours drink Tequila. Laugh Fun but what it does when we have our meeting that. Wait and make sure I answer your question but what it does when we have our meeting that way is it allows us to connect on all of the things that if we don't connect on him even for just a minute if we don't oh connect on him. That's what ends up creating the overwhelm in life. Like when you wake up and you're like you feel like you're behind you know I mean you wake up and you're like you grab your phone and it just straight reactive mode when you don't connect on the different things even though it doesn't take a ton of time be disciplined bi-strategic Egypt then once you get that strategy Ba- frigging disciplined to it and if it doesn't work the first week give like give the process time it's like they're not magic things and so my wife and I over the last seven months to figure out and we're still going to change it It will change every month probably but we changed the way that we did that meeting. At first we did our marriage stuff I and it was not the way to go because it almost kind of felt like I was. We would just jump down each other's throat and ended up feeling like you did this and you did that. You said this and Bubba Bubba and so we ended up like moving that to like the third hour of the day and we wanted to connect. We found the best connect on our kids because when we connect on our kids. It's like we're so both so passionate about that in it's all love. There's no egos in that and and there's no use. He said she said it's all about the kids. And then we move onto the next thing. By the time we move onto the marriage we were loving on each other so much about the kids and coming together so much much for teamwork for the kids that by the time we get to marriage were already in kind of like that that the we over me mindset. I love it I love it and so just kind of pivoting back with the questions coats. How do you extend demonstrate? Love more your son so so experiences exposure in that meaning. We're able to figure out what each kid needs right so strategically from a strategy standpoint. I have five kids and one of my visions for the man in the data I wanted to be in January of this year is like I wanted. By the time I got to the end of this year I wanted to have created enough freedom in my schedule because of of different alignments that I'm making taking weight off my shoulder to for me to be able to design the life that I want meaning. I want to date my daughter. I four of them. I want to date my daughter every Friday so if I four of them. Halfway Fridays in a month so took wild and took strategy progressively time and time and time. Because it started out. I can only give one with the schedule I had. I can could only give one daughter. A date per month would take me four months today. All my daughters now. I can do it in a month in the way I was able to do. That wasn't by like painfully ripping off the bandages. And just I'm doing it and let him my businesses suffer the way that I was kind of describing to you. You know who I WANNA speak to the people that feel like they keep pin bowling around to get excellence in their life instead of just having strategy and being able to intentionally move throughout their day in quit hustling quit. Grinding and just spe- intentional being intentional execute her. But in order for you to do that you have to see the ultimate vision of what you want your life to be. This is not fru Fru Yoyo. Talk this this is a vision board and you look at that Vision Board at the end of twelve months and say Okay Sean. This is where I WANNA go. What is it GonNa take for me to get there? I want to be able to do this with my daughters. I want to be able to supply these trips for my kids. I WANNA be able to take two weeks completely off in December Oh yeah by the way This seven figure company. I want at this to be an eight figure company in Jesus Name and you know what I haven't launched this company but I've got a vision for and I'm GonNa make that seven figures as well because I'm going to lead my team. I'M NOT GONNA manage my I team in two thousand twenty. I'm going to lead my team from the front. And that's what's GonNa Happen. Because I have strategy and so at the beginning of two thousand and nineteen. It wasn't really about businesses. Mrs It was about making alignments in my businesses and not a metric attached to my business. So making those alignments earlier on in the year has allowed me to get to the place place to date all four of my daughters in one month. In addition to dude I've created a lifestyle show. We're at three seven figure companies. Not Saying that to brag this with God's doing in my life and I home school oh my son from six. Am to eleven am every single weekday. And I don't miss a basketball game on the weekends. So you WanNa talk about getting the most out of what you have and I'm not seeing. I'm not here to brag about it. I'm here to breathe life into entrepreneurs it only have one company right now and they WANNA make it seven figures but they feel like they're overwhelmed. They don't have enough time in the A day. It's about strategy. It's not about doing more. You're not a better business man or a better leader if you do more give strategy and give vision to your life so the people that are around you are following orders. They're they're they're pushing you towards the vision that you enrolled them into Zim accents so you know I think about breitbart apart. He's standing in front of his troops on. He doesn't say to them. Hey I'm gonNA need you to swing that acts like this. I'm GONNA need you to hold this shield and protect that guy and and like. Hey you at the pitchfork I want you to stab like this. No he stood in the front and he told these guys what they're fighting for in. It's bigger than you. It's bigger than me. It's bigger within our legacies. This is forgotten for country. And guess what those guys fought like savages. Some point to it is like as leaders of of a family or leaders of business. It's not about telling them what to do about enrolling them into the vision and empowering them to know what to do and that's what I've done none of my family and so collectively dude my family functions that a very high level which is allows me to be able to go out and build and go out and speak from stage and you know what dude if my wife wants to go with me on a four day trip because we have strategy and infrastructure plan than a month in advance and it won't be a strain. It won't be won't be a painful. There will be discomfort because planned it so it's not about God doesn't want people to live in pain. He doesn't want entrepreneurs and live in pain. He wants all of us to live and discomfort. Because because we're all incomplete without him but for me dude it strategy and placing God in the middle of my family and it's just been supernatural What has happened since then it came down to to to strategy and having vision and then reverse engineering how to get there? Yeah you know what's crazy is when I last saw you we bumped into each other at bedrose place and you were different person. You know where you in a different phase and looking at what you do. I love that man. I love that you know and from from that person to today I see. There's been a big change and I think that it's simply bs ingredients. You're you're sharing. Something is so valuable boone. Vital of people just think about this differently. Execute in trying to fill these four buckets and so with that said I wanted to see how you fit into this right because there's a lot of outgo that I'm hearing so i WanNa talk about what's getting done as far as self care and self attention for Steve Weatherford and we're GonNa do that right after this quick break. We'll be right back growing up if I thought about chocolate. I think about three musketeers. I think about a kit. Kat butterfinger finger right. I had all these hot chocolate Chocolate ice cream chocolate cake. Those things that will conjure up in my mind when I thought about chocolate it little. Did I know that chocolate itself. The original route of chocolate Wisconsin from something. That's botanically a seed. These CA Takao seeds was one of the most healthy foods in the world. Listen to this. This was from a randomized double blind placebo controlled trial as published published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Found that polyphenol rich Kabq. 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Yeah the school where your heart has been mentioning the person that you were maybe a year ago and and the person that you are now when you were articulating earlier about what happens when you were focused on building businesses and doing the things that men attended do and your relationship can start to get thrown in the garbage and just like dumpster fire over here. Is this something that you personally experienced because when you said it just really struck me. Yeah the. I don't even know if this is going to answer your question but I believe this is where I'm supposed to go when I look back on my life. Sean I I look back at a lot of reverse engineering From a strategic standpoint of sports parts a strategic standpoint of going pro a strategic standpoint of being a super bowl champion Being on the cover of muscle Vince Dude. At four goals when I was fourteen years old. And I've talked about him. A lot probably talked about last time. I was on your podcast. I WANNA become a dad was my I go. I had it fourteen. I wrote these things down to have the papers crazy. I wanted to become a dad fourteen because I had agreed that like He. I don't WanNa say my my dad was freaking amazing so I wanNA make sure that that I say that he just never you said I'm proud of you Me Never. He never championed me so I wanted to become a dead because I wanted to break their frigging wrong man So for and I wanted to be a pro athlete in order to become an Olympic champion. And I wanted to become. I wanted to be on the cover of muscle and fitness and those four those four life goals I achieve. It wasn't Olympic champion. But I was the world champion so when I look back at my life and how I have reverse engineered all these things with the exception of being a dad all all of them were like sports related. They were all physique related. They were all exterior and they all worked because you strategy and kind of the same mom. I'm explaining to people. Here is just being an intentional execute or of a plan that you know will work and there's no shortage of people telling you like how to win so I go out find find somebody you trust. Let them give you a game plan and let them give you support and God just be an intentional execute her I did that in sports and I became. You know. Tenure Inigo the Veterans Super Bowl champion Franchise Punter Super Bowl records. All this crazy stuff Because I was very intentional for it but then once I retired and I because the reason I I left the NFL's unfulfilled dude. You know what I mean like. I'm playing pro. Sports Making one hundred ninety seven thousand dollars a game but I had saved up enough money to have some financial security but not like. I'm not making quarterback money for that long so I had gotten to my tenth year in the NFL just felt unch. I don't see on challenge because because it was still super hard but unfulfilled That I was on any type of roadmap to any type of fulfilling destiny because every goal that I achieved as a pro athlete required more of me and actually gave me less fulfillment so I thought like you know because the higher the goes up the more they require of you the harder they are to get the less good they make you feel so I got a reduced return on my investment in the investment was much higher so I just decided to get out and about a year and a half ago six months before we met is when I decided to take this Superpower of being able to identify a vision and then reverse engineer a game plan to be able to get to that with strategy not just planning strategy because that's the important in part of because a plan would be like. Hey it's January and I want to date all of my daughter so just start doing it that Friday but it sends everything else. In your life into a tailspin. It'll spend so a plan is not just good enough. There has to be strategy behind it and then you come up with the plan and so I just have a an incredible gift to do that for myself. Off and in two thousand and nineteen because of alignments has allowed me to be able to help other entrepreneurs do that but I want to get back to eighteen months ago when I went on this like I was explaining to you. A Vision Quest Dude like a deep spiritual vision quest and what I ended up kind of coming out of the other side of with was. Let me take these gifts that God gave me and let me put like in my mind. The faith that I wanNa have let me put that down. Okay okay the relationship with my son I wanNa have let me put that down the the marriage that I wanNa have let me put that down all of the things in my life. That weren't my. They weren't excellence. They weren't pro level. That was I had an amateur marriage a year and a half like I didn't run around on my wife and I didn't like beater. I was a good husband on paper but I wasn't great i. I wasn't what I'm capable of being. You know what I mean and I was convicted by that and so I said listen if I'm like so good at achieving all these other things with you know with these strategy plans is that I come up with and being insanely disciplined tomb. Why don't I just do that for my faith? Walk in create a training program from prayer life and like make myself read the Bible if I do not like reading the Bible even now I'm hoping and praying the one day like it's GonNa come to life the way that people say oh. These words were jumping off. They don't jump off the page for me Sean Sean. I wish they did but I am disciplined to stain in that fire every single day for those fifteen minutes and one day I am believing that they are going to jump off that paper unbelieving for it. But I'M GONNA train the same train dead lift when I sucked at dead lift or squatting her bench press us the same way. I sucked at that but I stayed in the fire because I knew there was something on the other side of it so I am believing for that. I'm believing in for an incredible electricity to my mirrors. And guess what I had that right now dude. I had the most ridiculous marriage I could ever dream up uh-huh and their strategy behind it and it doesn't mean like we don't have bad days where we didn't get an argument on the here we are together and that's what I wanna ask you man. So what is what does she mean to you. And what is my wife mean to me. Does she's the wheels for the bus man. You know what I mean. I feel that God placed it so heavy my heart and he gave me a diesel engine. Man I and he gave me like the heart and in the vision to just low do John just load up on his bus. That I'm driving right now. You you know what I mean and without her being underneath me scheduling the phone calls speaking life into me Picking me up off the floor when I'm discouraged because it's lonely dude. You know I mean I don't feel lonely now but when you have such a when you have such a big vision for what you feel like God places on you can take your breath away. Sometimes you know what I mean through So my wife to me do she. Is the wheels underneath the bus of of what we're driving people say she's my rock did she's not my rob because Iraq's it still man she keeps me moving. You know I you mean like in the most magical way so to me. I need to make sure that I am strategically. Strategically building time came into my wife's life for herself because the wife like I know ladies listen to this right now dude you will be a martyr for your kids all day long right but nobody nobody would be like. Hey Hey Martha Hey susie Hey. My wife name was Laura. Hey Laura you know what you seem really overwhelmed in and you haven't slept enough off and you know what dude. Let me. Bless you by watching your kids tonight so you can go stay in a hotel room and and and get a peaceful night's sleep because I know your one year old gets up at four. AM every day. Nobody does that Sean. So guess what. I'm bill strategy once a week because this is real real store happened in my life my wife. If is this extreme adrenal fatigue and she just can't catch up to the point where she goes and gets your testosterone tested doesn't even show up. She has no testosterone detectable in her body. So I said okay. I'm not going to rely on these doctors. I'm going to rely on this. My wife needs sleep dude. She needs sleep so once a week I built built into strategy that my wife would go stay in a hotel by herself and I told her I said if I'm GonNa look on your phone and if you look at your phone after nine pm we won't do this again. You know what I me because I wanted her to honor the opportunity. She had 'cause she's extremely exhausted. And we all know how phones are and so I just didn't want my wife to think this is an opportunity for you to just like do whatever you you WanNa do. Let's be intentional with this time that you had. We did that for seven weeks and I got a new wife you know because I gave her what she needed. I did try to solve her problems problems or wonder why. She's so grumpy all the time. You know what I mean. I reconnected on what she really needed. Sleep I could say things like well quit looking at your phone before you go to sleep. Where Blue blockers are where these Bo- sleep buds or take CBD? Or you know what. I mean. I didn't do that for us. It okay you need sleep. I'm going to enrich the quality of this. I'm not going to give you supplements. I'm I'm not gonNA rely on some doctor to fix my wife. I'm getting involved in this. I am the CEO of this thing. You know I mean I'm the leader of this and so I got in front of it and I created created strategy for her to do that and it took seven weeks. What would have taken seven months with any of these other? If if it ever happened here so I decided to accelerate telerate that with strategy seven weeks instead of probably seven years. Yeah you know what I mean. That's a miracle man it really is. You got to the route and this is with so many of us. Don't do because we're so busy in our minds and we're not taking time to to analyze and to be intentional into strategize like talking about so. I just want to thank thank you for doing that for her. That's a miracle man. It really is awful. I got a new one. I know you did. I know you but you've got to the route instead of trying to treat symptoms. Get off your phone. Whatever that she needed that time you know and so? That's you know so crazy man and we can do this no matter what level. We're at because still man and I don't want you to speak to this yet but I want you to speak to people are going to talk to you. It's going to hear this and they're going to think like well he has money. He has the opportunity through money and assets to be able to do stuff like that. But what I want to say for people. First and foremost is no matter where you're at in your life. No matter what level you're at you can absolutely take time to strategize strategize to support your significant other. It's as simple as a decision you know so this could be you know instead of a whole night off this could be you know just encouraging changing your partner to go and spend golf with friends right because I know his men like what we tend to want especially when we have time to be with our significant other MHM. We just want their time. We WanNA snuggle up and cuddle up and just be close to them. We want them around us not realizing that they need that time to be free three to do other things. And there's a statement that distance makes the heart grow fonder. You know so you're seeing that first hand with specifically strategizing an opportunity. One thing that I did did recently was and I didn't like it man like I rather have her with me but there was an event that was actually in San Diego so this was the first time the my wife went to an event without me right on her own and it's just like it was a little but I didn't share this with her but I knew that it was good. It was good for us. It was good for her. And like you said like I get a new wife. You know and it's just strategically every day. Take an opportunity if we can in small increments or you could the larger things like once a week so I agree with you and by the way did your wife is so special. I don't know why she's always been highlighted to me to every single time I speak to you I almost. I've like every single time I do. I mentioned are. She's like and I spent maybe five minutes with her. She's a special lady but one thing I wrote down. I grabbed a notepad from you while you were talking. Talk and was I. I wrote down the word disqualified because you were speaking You were speaking about how people will maybe here You know here are a good idea for a strategy or hear a good idea for a business opportunity. We're just here good idea in general or maybe somebody that's inspiring hiring and the and and everybody does this. I do it too and you already got ahead of it. That's why you're so good at what you do but for everybody. That's here in me. Tell the story that that is thinking to themselves will sure he can do it. I want you to hear me say this. God doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the called And what I mean when I say that is if you truly believe in your heart that you want to get something done and you want to achieve something. It's not about doing it like me in it's not about it's not about about doing it like anybody else because their vision is not your vision. Their strategy is not their strategy if you continually Po Kohl's and the reasons why you can't you be really really busy. All you need to do is find one reason why you should not even while you can. But one reason why you should quit disqualifying yourself because you end up living a life and become an expert of the reasons why you can't can't do something or become some one because you're stuck disqualify yourself and it's like we all do it so like you WanNa come. Come up with a strategy. From the for the people that are disqualifying themselves. I don't WanNA come up with a strategy. For the people that are disqualifying themselves. I want to encourage you empower. Are you to be resourceful. You don't need resources if you're resourceful so I want to challenge you. If you really have a dream. Revision is spend your time being resourceful forceful not poking holes in the plan while you can't or you should find one reason why you should. Yeah Yeah love man so you. Do you have a wellness program so that was obviously a huge chunk of your time and your attention because has it was feeding so many other things so many of your goals and your dreams and your mission was taking care of this incredible body of yours right and now now obviously. You've you've made a shift in your approach in your intention in your structure your investing so much into your family which again this feed you on a whole different level. That makes all that other stuff. I would believe easier the self care so. Let's talk about that. How are you approaching that piece? How are you approaching the self care here for your for you? I know that you did some stem cells and recently hyperbaric chamber. How you taken care of Steve Today? So two thousand eighteen was my vision. Quests to get like you said earlier like oh you seem to be like aware of yourself. I spent a year practice in it and like asking the hard questions having conversations with my dad about like getting to know myself better by asking my my dad questions about myself that I didn't want to hear the answer but I needed to two thousand eighteen was about that two thousand and nineteen was foundational. Meaning alignments I needed to get my businesses genesis. I needed to get the right people in businesses right because I believe two thousand and nineteen my word. My word has been alignment meant and I believe two thousand twenty s assignment in. It's not until I believe I created those alignments. Were where I am. Actually Freeing Moss was strategy free and myself up to use more of the gifts in the nineteen and the things that God wants me to do in twenty twenty I would never be able to do those. Also be the data and the husband that I want to be so I'm actually twenty. Nine thousand nine has actually been preparing me. It has has been all about preparation lane the foundation getting the the relationship with my son healthy get in the relationship. Sup- my daughter's healthy getting the relationship with my wife. Help get an are mirrored southie getting a routine in her strategy for us to continually come together because when twenty twenty blows up the way that that I believe it will. I don't want my success to be the reason my marriage goes back to what it was so I have to have strategy foundation in place and I have to protect Tuesdays in like you said earlier. Like yeah and sometimes like if we have time and I get it. I try to do that if I have time. But also Tuesday's is not a If that is mandatory like that is like church in my family is not more important but I protect church when we grew up. And you know I don't know you're you're exactly Zac do where you grew up but it was like we go to church on. Sundays is not really negotiable. Unless you're vomiting. We go to church so I make that same commitment to this intentional date night that I have with my wife and so for people listen to this. It doesn't need to be six hours. It can start with twenty minutes. Do it once a day but do it not like if you have time time do it. That's when strategy really. That's when rubber meets the road when you're disciplined with it and I believe that's what has really super naturally accelerated my gift. You have to have a strategy and vision not just for myself but for other business owners as well and entrepreneurs that I work with is not just that strategy but I'm really good at executing A. and that's what makes me super special like cool. You had the strategy of the vision but I'm just gonNA execute it better than everybody else so. Give me the same strategy as Sean a Betcha you betcha which I'm gonNA execute it better. That's what I'm telling myself and I might not but guess what if I believe. That's my goal it's not about you anymore is about getting the most out of what I had in front of me because my strategy is is gonna be different than yours yeah. You're not trying to go where I'm trying to go. So how are you getting the most out of you right now. A now you bring me back to it okay. Every single morning I wake up and my yeah I think go through my morning routine. Maybe good health is my thing but my morning routine man owning my morning you know about this is I with my son from six until eleven and the first thing we do every single morning we wake up and and we get on my infrared saunas sunlight infrared sauna. I get in that bad boy for about thirty minutes. We have a father son. Devotional that we we do together We pray together and that's kind of setting the intention for the day you know what I mean. Just get it right. And that's part of the training program regardless if we want to do it or not like we're doing it so it's it's kind of like exercise to us. We're exercising that faith muscle in obviously the health benefits of the sunlight song and then from there we breakfasts Usually that at the house. I'm kind of skipping over probiotics and all that other stuff we can get into if you want Then from there we go train together and allow him to be involved in content creation of what his training is So he gets to be involved in that and so he's kind of part of the artists of what's putting the training together so it never gets stale and it's always things he likes And and then from there we go home and And then at that point we typically have like one hour of some type of men enhancement like last week we went and opened up a checking account. You know because he's got dyslexia and he's got eighty and so part of me home schooling him. I don't do any of the homework stuff. Like any of the School Curriculum Man Academy to me is about empowering him with the structure and the tools that he needs for kind of like. We're talking about earlier. The experiences that he the needs for growth so numbers overwhelm him. He's got add and dyslexia. Everything's for combat. Make sense right. So let's go up a checking account because he's got about seven hundred bucks right now. Tony Wants to be an entrepreneur bub-bubba so that's something we're doing for him to just get practice shoes because I was just joking with him in your wife life about shopping I was just like I wear size eleven. You know what I'm saying like if you guys see anything that he might literally said it twice it was like eleven got it do like. I hope you didn't know. We had paper money. Secondary Little Kid doesn't have the intention to find those shoes. I want you to know right. Now he's trying to find those shoes. Pat's is a proud of him But my point is every single week. We will come up with the man academy challenge of the week Manica He's He's really scared of open. Water really scared of sharks. I made a bad mistake. Let them saw jaws when he was like six thinking it would be cool and scary a welcome to my bad idea. Sergei what there's this One of the man academy challenges was we got a see through Kayak and we. We went to a La Hoya and they have a little like inlet cave. That has a bunch of sharks in it and so our challenge. That week was for him to face his fears and literally sit in them so we puddle paddled out into this and we just sat in there and we just talked calmly you know in allowed him not to experience his fear but to sit it in it. You know what that's like when these things are like because other people are like throwing stuff for the sharks come up and bite and they are coming out of the water bro. And we're sitting right here. He is literally sitting in his is greatest fear but his father's. That's our challenge man. It's not it's not to be able to to figure out a way to let our our our little boys are little girls. Live life around their fears. I believe it is our responsibility to let them encounter and sit in their fear in a safe ecosystem meaning. I'M NOT GONNA go swimming with sharks with my son and I'm not GonNa make them Great Barrier Reef and jumping. There were some great rights. Do these sharks were probably eighteen inches long. Maybe two feet. If they bitch do they wouldn't even get meet just skin so I think I wanNA challenge dads out there and moms out there to do the same thing man like quit coddling. Selene your kids. Because they're going to. They're going to grow up needing that so it's not about like throwing them out there like the spartans in like hey if they come back they're you know they're strong enough and the they died of natural. It's not like that. Like give them a safe place to be a leader. Give him a safe place to write their own programs for for training. That's what my son does. In the morning I am power to do that. It's not just about keeping it exciting for him. I don't know I may unlock a gift for him. That he ends up writing in all these incredible programs like his dad did and making millions of dollars making something super complex and overwhelm getting bigger arms and making it super simplified and digital in your phone. I don't maybe I started that gift from. I don't know but experiences to your point. That's what Man Academy is about and Friday night date nights. We don't go to dinner and a movie. You don't Talk Dinner Dinner Movie How do you how do you nurture relationship in a setting like that. Now Dude we go out and we do life together with my daughters. We do what they WANNA do. The experiences that they WANNA half half. It's all about them in. It's not about buying them things. It's about life experiences but in order for me to get that every single Friday with my daughters and get that from six. Am to eleven am five hours five times. We twenty five hours. I get to be with my son. You think I could do that. Just hoping wishing and wanting it really bad and praying to Jesus just to give it to me now dude. No God gave me the skills along time ago when the final word was spoken over me he gave me the skills to be able to create that life he gave me the skills to create it. So I'm challenging. Everybody this listen to this right now. Like what gifts do you have that you think are just like cool the things you can do because those those things that people tease you about are the things that are going to unlock your greatness because that is what I spoke to you at the beginning of this pod Neth. That is your uniqueness. That's what makes that's your divine fingerprint. Man That's what makes you different out of seven billion people on this planet is the weird things about you like the fact that there have extreme. ADHD and. Sometimes I forget about what I'm saying. It's not because I'm talking off the cuff and I don't know where I'm going is because I don't know if you've noticed dude I just closed my eyes and and I tried to turn my brain off and just let my heart talk. That's my way of letting God be be heard and sometimes you're going because I'm not using my brain so yes you know what's in the video in here. I'm spitting all over the place if you're not watching the video dude. I'm closing my eyes because I just want you guys to hear what God wants you to hear and And Strategy for me is keeps coming up for us man and and I feel like to reverse engineer the life that you you WanNa have man you gotta be able to see it and then be able to have a strategy to make that pursuit Uncomfortable uncomfortable but not painful zoo make sense absolutely life is about being uncomfortable and outside of your comfort zone. But it's not about pain dude. It's not about pace typo grinding Indian. It's not about hustling it's about being strategic and then just being super intentional with that execution we've covered a lot of ground today man a a lot of ground who had only you can travel this much ground this quick. Thank you so much for sharing this. Listen before I let you go. Oh I want to ask you what you. We've we've kind of dove into this and I'm so listen. Listen this is important because I'm so proud of you and happy for you you that a big part of this is your family. That's the thing that I Meyer about you. Most it's so inspiring because we rarely see this in the way that you show it in demonstrated for all of us is. It's really something special. And so when are you you. You're you're still a soldier man like winter you hidden a gym and working out like wind energy. When is this uh-huh son? You know what I mean like. Here's the deal. Like fitness is such a huge part of me. I receive those kind things by the way. I don't WanNa skip over that because I have. I have a bad the habit of not receiving compliments because there was a long period of time that I didn't feel that way about myself so even when fans if you WANNA call them that you know playing football we love you I. I didn't receive that because I don't feel that way about myself so I received that It's all strategy so I built in the most important things for me. Yes I built Man Academy to evolve my son into the man that I feel like he will become But that's also my routine so like I don't want people to think like oh he's so noble dude. That's my routine so I'm essentially a pulled my son out of traditional schooling. Because I didn't feel like they were going to be able to serve my son better. Not Concerned my son. You know what I mean. We have a tutor. That comes in from eleven until two every day the gives him traditional schooling and teaches them about geography. 'cause I'm not going to discount. That stuff's important which you're looking at a guy right now. That has a high school degree in our mean. I am so incomplete. However I'm winning dude? Yeah you know what I mean. And I'm not boasting that I'm went and Dude like by God's Grace Wyndham winning. You know what I mean. It's not about education so for people that want to start that business this or or personal training or being an entrepreneur you continually disqualify yourself because you don't have that degree you don't have that certification you don't have the connections you don't have the social media you don't have the capital stop because that game ends right now. The game is right now man this decades of almost over like what's the next decade GonNa look like for you because you like the same way when we were kids if you go from fifth grade to sixth grade. You're like the new kid and you know in your mind like hey man I get to create a whole new. Why did I get to be whoever I want? If I moved to a new city or I go into a new school electric twenty twenty like that but start doing it now but have vision for twenty only twenty and that that that that Superhero of yourself that you have in your mind vision of somebody else says Superhero version. You haven't of yourself in your mind start practicing right right now and it might feel funky it might feel phony but keep practicing being your superhero by the time you get to twenty twenty. You're failing or do to take sixty seven days to make or break a habit. Why are you going to start to January? First with everybody else get started now fail forward now so by the time you get into twenty twenty twenty two weeks into it dude. All the sudden it goes from ritual routine to rhythm and you're not trying to be something anymore you are that yes steve my man. Dan Thank you so much. Man This is this has been so fulfilling for me. You know just sitting here and hearing hearing your story hearing your progress hearing your intention and seeing the results in your family man like I really hope that this got people thinking differently about what's possible and and Man We're not gonNA think or hope we're we're sure one. This changed the way that people think it did. Thank you for having me man seriously. Thank you for trust me. Whatever harebrained idea that I had or that you know you thought or I said God had for us? man-induced thank you man for real. I meant everything I said at the beginning of of this this podcast man do when I closed my eyes and I think about if somebody says your name I just I just picture a peaceful warrior because you carry such a piece with view but you're about that business too you know and so you you carry such a powerful mantle everywhere you go because you're peacefully doing so much watch and it's something that I admire you for because from the surface level. I I seem different than you. Because I'm pretty spastic. But but we're both about that business and I just admire you for with the grace with which you handle relationships and podcasts and adversity dude. I just admire. Are you so much man I love you. Thank you for trusting my man. Thank you so much for hanging out with me today appreciate it. Can you let everybody know where they can connect with you online and also a by your podcast. Yeah I I I really. I know this went really long and I know we weren't like super at least audibly superintendent with where we were going with this thing but I just appreciate everybody sticking sticking with it and I hope it served everyone. If you WANNA touch base with me honestly I would love I would love to know from my own For my own mind to be able to speak on it more in the future. What about this show really stuck out to people in you can catch me Just send me a dam on instagram. I manage all of those and that's where I connect with people. That's where I get feedback on what I speak on people want to know more of so I appreciate you guys. I appreciate the Space Brian. Connor air thank you. I appreciate you guys serving us today. It was a lot of fun and hopefully the served. Everybody and I'll see you guys over on Instagram snapchat. podcast Oh yeah and my podcast. I talked about kind of the similar stuff. So any of the feedback. Yeah I get from you guys and what you love. Here is the name of the pocket. I'm going to be talking about it on mine. Steve Weatherford show love you guys. He's awesome everybody. Thank you so much for tuning into the show today. I hope you've got a lot of value out of this. And listen. I'm I'm pumped right now. I'm pumped going implement and these the recipe that he delivered and and I took a bunch of notes to myself here number one love number to support it number. Three seen number four heard right these four ingredients investing these these ingredients into our loved ones into our our partners into the folks at work like you mentioned the great example of you WanNa raise your job make your boss feel loved supported seen and heard and guess what you win every time you do do those things you every time you implement and cook those four ingredients you win might take some time in strategy structured and intention upfront. But YOU'RE GONNA win and Steve so elegant eloquently said it today. He's winning and I think that these four ingredients are absolutely life. Changing in any of us can use them and so just so grateful to have him more today. And I'm grateful for you tuning in how the red us tag us on instagram. Let us not thought about the episode share with your friends and family so they can get a dose of inspiration in strategy as well. 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The Whirlwind: Just Punishments S2E13

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The Whirlwind: Just Punishments S2E13

"This episode of capes and lunatics is brought to you by tweaked audio awesome headphones good at tweaked audio dot com and use the coupon code southgate get thirty percent off free shipping and a lifetime warranty where he can get there through the link on our website southgate media group dot com or for more of <music> for now is the time of your just punishments. Hey everyone welcome to the finale of net flicks alexa. The punisher season two episode thirteen the world. I'm your host charlie. The professor esser and with me as always is my skinny rich brand. Hey buddy how how you how you say. Hello says he's very happy. Okay today's episode. The whirlwind season two episode thirteen frank pilgrim madani russo amy kurt and the show cspan. No book is left unspent. As season two comes to unexploded sound inclusion <hes> we'll discuss that in a minute so we is <hes> jeremy webb gerry conway generated senior and and of course ross andrew get our marvel created by credits <hes> or sorry marvel comics can it's steve light put foot gets created by but conceive lightfoot went in and he wrote this thing in his own darn so angola mina she was executive story editing the whole time meanwhile the hardest working person so so showbiz is the person who gives angela my someone to executive hangover. Ken christensen our story editor okay. This episode is one that just takes away. Although i have to say this is one where it is at once is at once the best episode i've ever seen and then with its very end coda kind of does everything it makes it kind of awful to me like i so we'll get to in a little bit but honestly expected to be different. I mean it just seemed like everything was set right again. You know or so so back to the baseline. What is there was some casting when it was casting choices that i didn't like and we'll talk about the choices in that very final scene that i think hurt the property as a whole and it just goes to show you these things. These are not one person one actor actor when director this is a huge collaborative effort and if one thinks that is undone the whole thing can unravel very quickly you wanna get to the i'd wanna give because i want to give this story. It's do because this was up until that moment this is this is the batman v superman. I mean when you think about this and everything that we've led up to this the episode this even have a marta moment that makes absolute sense <hes> and works and it's like made batman v superman actually makes sense and it basically once when netflix does this. It just shows you how much worse batman v superman was because they couldn't be bothered to do what these people with so much less money so much less. I guess arguably the head a lot more time but but but really but really really the whole thing does still take place in a one hour epic i mean i think they had more time to tell the story. Sorry i don't know if they had more time to create the visuals that told the story on a movie like batman versus superman the amount amount of planning the amount of foresight that you need to have to get something like that rolling off the ground is is is tremendous and i think they have much much more resources available to them to tell a better story and they faltered hard. Yeah what i'm saying is. I'm saying that this show really really gives us what we wanted that name and has that martha among that turns it that makes oh man that makes sense that makes so much sense. Let's get let's get started this because and speaking of course i gotta say i mean maybe it's just me but you kind of feel like <hes> jigsaw russo becomes kind of a <hes> kind of just a you know also appearing character in this that it's like his story at the end. Just doesn't i mean honestly what i will say of it is that i don't know how better we were to end it because i think for a soldier's death that all is probably the only debt you get get so here's here's the way i felt about that moment. It was it was incredibly powerful because they set up this domino effect of emotional plateaus does that they bring you to that lead you to this moment where he's calling out to curtis and he's calling out to frank. It's like when you have si fighters when the bell for the fifth fifth if ground ends and they know the fight is over the other guy's not trying to hurt you anymore and they embrace and they hug in the middle of the ring <hes> you know with the only person that can know what they just went through so it's it's that moment and he's reaching out and frank shows up and you think they're going to have that tender moment because in a weird way they had built this character to be such a heinous and malevolent person but at the same time they gave him this turn that affords him like a back door into salvation and he doesn't exactly walk through what he doesn't even stumble but he definitely looks toward that door of salvation and there's a piece of him that wanted it and the piece of him that was sorry for what he did but he was still held incapable able to his unsecurity yata. Whatever but you have this amazing moment you think there's going to be this exposition of emotions and exchange of i thought and and how person felt when this ad no he just shuts it all down and pops him immediately as as he always should have and it was such a powerful powerful scene and i think that's exactly what he deserves but the kind of person that he is in everything that he turned a blind shoulder to his own actions about. I think that's exactly what he desert and we get the same thing with krista she can. That's exactly it's almost like they gave us the juiciest steak that that they had been tempting us with since the first and maybe even since last season like they have to be such a and he gets the death that he deserves. That's how i felt about it. I thought it was like final. Final didn't get any possible after showing him the door the salvation so many times he didn't deserve to have it in his final moment so i think they were denying hip something that he wanted more than anything else even the whole time every other thing that he did was just <hes> at least in the second act of his character with done to find brotherhood again or to find purpose and he failed that reached out for the last straw vote but he denies that and it's so dark and it's so fitting it it is it is and what i will say about it. Is that it at its core. What we're looking at here is a man who who wants oh really. He wants his death bed. He wants his dead. Beth <unk> deathbed absolution. You know you know it's like i want to live my life for myself but then with my last dying breath i want that priest to show up and give me that communion union in say you know you're forgiven for all the sense of this world without without having an and what is this is the this is the problem with that death pet deathbed confession. It's that you know you have to assume that you're gonna be given that moment to have that that confessional and of course he's not giving that because not for nothing as you said the door was open to he could've walked through that door. He could have had redemption so many times he he could have him even wanted to well. Of course you know the thing is is we oh what redemption as we all want to a. B. good people but you know that means you know you have to do something that you don't want to do because it take it easy. Everyone would be good you know and that is the that is the thing and for him. There were so many other the things he wanted. He just had to get himself to this point and of course for him it winds up being he has literally absolutely nothing and then when you find him in the garbage which you find they've been the garbage they they almost make. You think that that's the ending. They're going to give him and it's crazy and you like almost satisfied with but they're like no no but wait. There's more and they wanted to give an even worse situation for him to front not to just wake up from a super not know that he's he's dying or to they have a chance to come to terms with his sense and ask for absolution than beat denied it. They said no even the garbage isn't good enough for him. Let's bring him down and let's get the people it was. It was beautiful. Although i gotta say that doctor is like my new favorite character because you know we see again at the very end and when frank is in the bus station really you see him and his asian girlfriend like walking really fast classes society now because of their gate. I was like there was a point of interest. I said you know they're trying to show us something but they just walked off. I said maybe it was a <hes>. You know really good extras or something that's an actor with his money and his girlfriend and they're heading outta town guy with a lot of money and if he has the duffel bag right yes yes he didn't he didn't he didn't back away surprise right. I actually thought maybe he might have sewed up a little bit but it really does just seem like it cost him in the trash right and just to give us a better better baxter here so the reason why russo has gotten has to go to dr is because after madani throws krista just out the window who issues the live with deuce your neck brace now that kind of stuff you know she's nothing like the least damage anyone in this series so i'm sure i'm sure our our our our marvel harley quinn will be back if we ever get back to story story because really this is the joker harley quinn story again cold so much better right you know because it is this idea of this woman who's who brought the trauma to the table as the psychiatrist and it's not even that the joker or in this case jigsaw manipulates her so much they're manipulating each other and both working towards their own they own. They have their own. Their magnets are there and so they're both looking at some kind of redemption but but basically it's the plight of the blind so i love krista. She's just an amazing character. She doesn't get much in this episode. She got she doesn't get much time but that moment where where madani donny gets to tell her off all we that's sweet. That's so sweet. It's just those last episode did did not know in this episode where she finally sees her in the hospital and she's like oh. He's gonna come find. You and he's going to kill you. Look what three bullets in him blah blah blah and she's like oh. Oh he's gone for what you did to me. She's like no you did this to yourself and she has to sit there and let that sink in that that that rousseau is dead. Yeah i mean that that that's a really really good moment. I enjoy it thoroughly. I i was smacking licking my lips and tim. Madani has got ought to be like the kramer female f._b._i. Eight falls ass backwards into good fortune all the time she screws up an and and and like she probably should to throw her out the window no repor ramifications for that and then she becomes at the cia agent and all sorts awake. She does complete end. She gets to have her. I told you so moment with krista without really doing anything to earn it but it's like it's it's it's a a little less than what is arguably and and her and this is one of these things. I'll say her. Becoming agent is literally truly hervey coming <hes> and it's got the guy from the first season who's actually running the era when <hes> remember the but the guy right he was the spook who was running the black ops or for yeah the bald guy you know not the kernel. I know that they kill in the last season the daredevils but right or not the last season of daredevil but was it the second season electric <hes> <hes> but the <hes> but in the first season of punisher yeah she basically becoming that that character doctor who is the privileged wealthy touchy and again she is well. We know she's wealthy. She writes privileged. We know that her family we has money and connections and she is now getting more and more comfortable with killing oh yeah which is very comfortable with what she was. What needs to be done and you know or arguably now now. Of course the other guys turn is that his his avarice leads into and again. This is the idea that money is the root of all evil. It's the avarice of russo. It's the avarice of the other guy not not content to just be powerful. He also wants to make sure he super-rich to it has to start selling heroin <hes> <hes> it suggests that really it isn't it you can be a horrible person like a laker frank castle like nick fury in its own way <hes> and kill people because you think it's the right thing to do <hes> and so long as you're not doing it for the money so long as you're just doing it because these are people that need to get killed <hes>. It's okay okay. You're soloist clear now. Granted there is a i'm sure matt murdock would have questions about this about due process and the like but and and for what it's worth you know <hes> franco's ain't co wrote on that says i guess you just got sick of reading people their rights but <hes> but i do like when when russo co two madani at the start of this episode have their little fight and madani puts her three bullets him <hes> that is any keeps on coming because of course he is full of rage h. and full of anger and you know and this is one of the things i like is that he choked her out but that doesn't kill her because actually actually kill someone and by talking them out you actually have to fully crush their windpipe which he would no he didn't do bray or the hold it for a very long term long few minutes longer breath basically after you have to hold it for like another for me. I'd imagine yeah but what was interesting to me is when he woke up. He didn't kill her before he left. I guess maybe he wasn't in any shape too. He just wanted to get out well. You know i do wonder if maybe he decided to give her that. It's the idea that he is. He's trying to do a face. Turn anything trying to do a face turn since last episode but at a certain point you're so far gone all the little niceties you do now. You know it's it's like andrew karnik in <hes> ninety aged carnegie did what he did to get to be a billionaire and then he really wanted to get into heaven and he hears much sensing rich man has to get into heaven somehow any could these massive charitable foundations because he thought i have done so much wrong in my life and i you need to make sure i can give back before i die because i know it's like a good place. I know my ledger ledger is in the is in the red and i don't know how necessarily get back into the box and whether or not he ever did is a question for people more more more of the cosmos than me but at the point where he is at even now i think his heroes i think he's he he knows enough about killing people that that he didn't come downing was a choice much in the same way that not killing russo was a choice for <hes> i think in both cases neither one of them wanted to cross this particular lot. <hes> in in france case it was that he had had this brotherhood in rousseau's case it is he. He wants he wants. He knows those. He's in the wrong and it's hard to kill somebody. That's not attacking you. You don't have that she was just too is coming right for me. In euromoney it takes a lot more imagine like well. That's fortitude or whatever to try to do that. It's life in that moment when you have. The power is a little little harder than when you're just shooting in now. Let's see what he had. No problem komo's hookers in now. Now you know he killed those three ladies not even a thought because that's 'cause 'cause for him at that time it was about how do i hi. How do i beat frank and that's always what he said is. How do i <hes> which is where i think when frank comes in at the end and is just you know. It's an interesting question because on one level it is a mercy to end him quicker. You're in oh. I think the physical torture in the physical pain pales in comparison to the emotional toll in that final moment yeah and i think he knew that too because both of them are so familiar with pain that it almost becomes as a sidebar kind of thing you know one kid imagine although i will say this much crista is right in in what what she says to madani when madonna is saying you know put three bullets he's dead. He's dying yada yada yada but the fact of the matter is you know he he actually was still alive. Hanging actually been patched by that doctor he totally would have gotten back up and all of those things factored into the equation when you think someone has maybe three percent chance of living he almost but there was only three percent chance and you know so oh but never nothing. This is a punishable character. You know what i mean. That's also true that that's the point of that and like this was this as me i wouldn't. There's like i'm okay died in the first episode that far rockaway that's been. Do you have a beer. Oh you know it was just a <hes>. It's a it's is but it is. It's a way to play to accommodate. Simple trump. Guy always comes back. That guy is that. There's nobody note that right but this isn't bad man see see but the idea is that you know own praying about what is yeah. I just don't think there's any room for christa. Have anything good in this moment. That's all i'm saying. There's nothing good. No what i'm saying is for the universe everson which she lives until the moment that frank puts the extra to politics in into russo. He's she's completely absolutely right but merely within three percent chance at being and being technically just because i can't prove it but yeah but the thing thing is demonstrably from from what happens in the story for nothing you know the fact that i don't think it erodes <hes> madonna's argument and i don't think erodes it's emotional impact as it lands on christa any bit on chris because chris woman assigned she snows. He knows he's also true right. Yes she knows. Madani is right. When saying is that because he's a comic book universe right. Oh absolutely russo got out absolutely russo guys dr absolutely russo got the bullets out of him and was still ally and even after the doctor decides not to mend wounds and he just told me that dumpster and take his money and run and bella like like. I said that doctor i love him. Look at what you do stand man the reason i'm not working outside because because i am not pit bulls guys got shot in the but i right i am i love that he wanted to put him under and russa knew exactly that if you let them go under he's gonna throw them in the garbage and he was right. I talked to to not want that and soon as he got the opportunity through garbage around to that point. It's interesting that he tries to ask him to go under because that's exactly what he was planning to do and that's the reason he said. I'm gonna say that wasn't planned at all. I'm really i'm gonna say that. His actual was look. I'm going to do my best you are going to die. I'm probably take your money in three when the dumpster i think had he put him under not for nothing. He doesn't like. He doesn't finish the job hypocrite. Go right yeah so yeah maybe he would have taken the money but he would have passed him up at least let them lynn exactly it absolute worst case scenario. He would've woken up in that hospital room. He'd have taken the money other again. You're you're not gonna take that guy's money. If you're patching up so that's also true right. You know we were taking whatever your fee was supposed to be right right right because it's a difference between a leaving a witness alive than actually bringing a witness back alive yeah but i think the guy had not not passed out from the pain because he's sitting. I said look. I don't care how bad as you think you are. Implant eleven exactly although it's worth i live back actually is not your worst thing. It's making your intestine do ooh and of course that's assuming his intestines isn't already net. Oh yeah that's where the shots were. There's a good chance he got something yeah and i think the doctor probably knew even if he does his table talks. Patch them up internally. He's going to walk outside and less. Maybe a day that's basically what the doctors there and it's like. You know chest me dude. This is point you know but he's but of course he's a superhero character in the superhero. He's ready to get his power up and he and it never comes of course we're to be fair. It comes but it is a world power. Where's this he's running on. I'm trembling and and and and nothing literally nothing else because he's not a blood it adrenaline pumping we haven't had oh sorry it just occurred to me that we are in a universe where the hand exists so he could be zoomed and brought back to life later on yeah but they use a. I love their bones already. I don't know if i mean really got rid of. That was the whole thing that the defenders it's like a tiny used the last of our dragging bones electra now. No one was converted. We're using them to bring back to the head of rand but you know right. Yeah i mean without without a doubt there is definitely although i imagined financially speaking the head of rent is probably much bigger asset than a ninja. That's a very farfetched that they would waste all their money making you know golden goose juice on a ninja and again but again it goes it comes to religious separatism 'affair. Remember that these guys are religious zealots. I mean the dragons baggins may be space monsters from another universe but they seem them true but but they have but they're but they're you know cowering naked tapes on a third dust bowl from a second rate <hes> yellow star in at the end of the galaxy. You know it's they think these are guys and you know so. It's a holy ninja fair enough exactly within then within her mind right right right there <hes> and for what it's worth in their own way that you know we know madame gather. They do even know that she exists and they attach in other. Do crazy magic with cheese so it's not like it's not without basis but it's also this idea idea that you know one warrior. That's what i've always said. Superman is useless against a nuclear holocaust. It's like if humanity wanted to destroy itself. Superman can't save us navy sup one. Maybe not even a thousand nuclear warheads is not going to stop them all and we have enough to both the world seven tenths seven times and you know superman is not ah going to be able to save and electric ain't superman you know right and he can't on radiator irradiated. I don't know if that's a word but yeah yeah undo the damage of the radiation leaked onto every living and an animate thing on the planet. That's i mean for what it's worth. It does superheroes rose. They gained popularity forties and fifties but the reality is that for what it's worth the reason we don't have super heroes is because the government doesn't eat them crazy to think that the furthest our imagination can reach as far as creating the ideal mythical superhero superhero we created and superman he can do all the things every other superhero can do and more right for the most part even he can't stop what we actually came came up with the super villains that we became even our most grandest imaginations can't stop well the repair what it really is is that too many exists in reality any reality that is a ford emotional space governed by time hi <hes> and this is why of course you will this is why ford it's worth mixed plex <hes> that might etc are financial because they exist outside of space and time and maybe they could have effects on things that are different but of course being a satisfaction time means that you're in this what i would say that having to exist in a four dimensional space when you are dimensional probably makes you actually crazy racing because either that or you don't really see the actual entity or person but you see a proxy of that that is molded to fit your t._v. Screen you know what i mean. I really entirely possible that too. I mean really really says it's all hypotheticals it. It is what it is but let's talk about john. John man yeah greater rate no but even from the gecko you sort of felt for me. He's pitched this big evil guy but little by little not just in this moment is what i'm saying even before they are building this track record of maybe feeling some empathy for the guy and then here it. It definitely comes to fruition well again. Well what else say is and again. This is what i will say about. Giant is like rousseau he sought to gain some but what he sought to gain was it greed right but a family and stability and a home and life life and you know it's always like my favorite scene battle beyond the stars jon voight as the greatest assassin in the universe universe <hes>. It's basically seven sam rice in space. It's a fantastic how oh yeah no if mice look better be under starch. Maybe the funds you watch that will be on this is this is an amazing film. <hes> i mean it's not a good film but it isn't amazing thinks oh i dig it. Dig it and you have this character played by jon voight who is <hes>. I believe with him but i could be wrong on that but um in my office but he is like the world he's like the university's greatest assassin he kills people left and right and has billions of dollars but because he's the the world's against incessant he's wanted every planet in the universe so he has to spend his money and when and when the young gag goes out looking for the people to join the army to defeat this coming invasion and he comes to him and he says has you know <hes> oh we you know we can't give you any wealth but we can give you a safe place to stay at a warm warm meal and a safe place to stay and he says believe it or not. That's worth more to me than all the money in this room right now. Money is worthless to me right now but if i could have of warm place to stay good meal that would be worth it and you know that is that is that is john. Pilgrims story is he is he is a guy hi. Who is you know in his own way. Were you know his he has his own. You know super super predator fascist kind of your character who really just wants to have a home and of course his story is that he basically yeah basically like leroy brown. You know you know the song badly eh leroy brand of course the end of it is is that you know <hes> the two men fighting and when they pulled him from the floor only roy look like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces leroy learned that lesson by messing with the wife of jealous man meaning that it doesn't matter how how bad you are. If you find yourself on your foot when everything goes down you find yourself fled underfoot and end limits everybody before you come up on it. I know and as we always say about you know oh speaking with random people in the marvel universe. It's like how do you noticed. Laser is right. All we know. Is that the face of the laser some black guy. He decided to call a boy at some point and it's like you know what thank you. Oh it's not my head can in a time traveling. Bishop is who step in a bar in pennsylvania the bishops yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's just that you know you know so. It's it's like that is that is perfect in that whole concept struck but <hes> yeah i love i love the begrudging respect. He has for him in that moment like sometimes occasionally when you're very different than everybody else in the in the world. It's rare when you find find somebody that can understand the way that you think in in in pilgrim. He says this guy's very much like me. Never quits and he's impossible to kill. He always escapes and he's tough as the son of a gun and he's like what are you a maniac. Is i or or what's the deal. I just love that moment that he had that begrudging respect for and for what it's worth again with an a. okay so my first favorite point in this is when and this when he does his first face turn and when he lies to the schultz's about 'cause after again <hes> after her punisher calls the shilton isn't says hey i got your son back out of your son and all that kind of stuff <hes> don't do that just playing with my note notary stamps notarized random pieces of paper yes but you know when <hes> when you know after the punisher basically calls the short shorts it's called pilgrim and they say but the girls okay right. You have the girl yep girls fine without really knowing where the girl is because he knows in his mind. It's also like it's my job. I have to do it. I will have the girl no. I saw that one hundred percent. Is you have my kids. I'm gonna tell you whatever i need to do to make sure they're saying well yeah. Yeah you know and that's what it comes down to is for score it okay because that's the thing i think all pilgrim wanted to do ever when he got here was just be a man with his family title and i also think that in order to be able to do that job you really have to believe in the reason you convince yourself. You're doing get so. He had to take on that image that that facade and he had to buy into it. He had to believe it. You know so it is sort of a dismantling dimantling of that a conscious recognition that you are doing that but for what it's worth i think he absolutely impressed that the right what happened to but what happened is that as the series went on you know they kept on pushing him further and further and he's like like if you're really righteous people you wouldn't be asking me to do this right and i think i think the moment it sort of gives him permission to fully commit to the maybe it really didn't in that moment but it was one of my favorite scenes when amy has little conversation with him in the car and for for the whole season amy has acted as an adult would in every situation handled herself very a very effectively as an adult what this one moment you see her perspective on the world and how she feels about human beings and their relationship to everybody else into to the world and the hopefulness in her outlook and in saying you know about what her experiences are changed and by the way you can always turn about and in that moment helmet she she's she's still a kid at it takes that sort of childlike wonder and belief as a child in the possibility of the world to allow pilgrim to feel that moment to and maybe view himself openly in that that was a really really cool well yeah i mean this is a great episode thousands of cool moments and at no point does it. I mean well except ah said except for me in a very seen it does point but it does it does make it through and let's get to story so <hes> <hes> you know so basically curtis. Let's curtis gives senator to mahoney after the punisher is gonna get amy. Amy amy didn't get captured by a program she snuck away but was smart enough to go into the trunk of his car and get into where he was at so that she could see where he was and what he was doing again. Amy is just abia such a okay and all this man. She is just such a b._a. And i love that aspect of her but she <hes> you know she finds is she finds ways at and franco's you know she calls frank say he i know him. He hasn't seen me <hes> and frank coast to get her <hes> and then we'll curtis. Is there with the senator curtis like what the economic doing. Why am i. I'm doing this for free and you know like this has gone through a whole 'nother level. You were sitting here actively in the act of being being the kidnapper of a senator. That's insane yeah. Exactly you know life is over. Your friends will never hear from you again. Kind of insane like wow. You've got a really starting to it's he made the only logical decision he could have in that moment really well exactly actually he did without a doubt. I mean you know but you know and more along the lines. The senator isn't a bad guy. We can see and and frankie says it's like you know uh when he says do this show at the end you know it's like how he you turned out a kid who actually cares about doing good for people <music> who knows but although to be fair that is not unheard of the idea that you know the people that do all the evil to put the child up into the ah into the ivory tower that it's the ivory tower he sees not deaths from below and so he does wanna make the world better because you want <unk> everyone to be able to live in a good just world and to be fair. You know whatever religious ideals the schultz adhere to it is based on an idea of universal brotherhood in the sense that you know they are not racist or not. You know judgmental oakland that way you know there there's murder sociopaths but at least they're not racist. I don't know that we have definitive negative proof of that to begin with and secondly the way they treat you know son. Sexual orientation is indicative enough of their the world view. I think so there's a lot of there's there's a lotta right joyfully and i. I love that that that <hes> mrs. show late into that whole lady macbeth side of that character oh yeah it's just a spot you know so it'll wash out with a bit of with right right and and and heard them she never wants has damaged by she is i know the whole house is like resolute resolute because you know what dan she is built her little castle and she does not care who you think you are willing to stand for castle for all the good it does her <hes> which of course gets us to our final scene. Amy comes in and she's holding them at bay and you can see mrs. It's a show she's looking at stake night and she is gonna get ready. She is waiting for a moment her you know because she is ready to kill with the with the skill of cobra shot in the head by the punch which freaks her husband out wonderfully okay. I think we can agree to that that her husband just can't handle how real everything got you sort of. Get the sense though that she would've reacted this way this whole time you thought he was the man in every turns out. He was just the muscle well yeah. I mean you know he was doing what he well. He's gonna say i'm sure he's every bit the sociopaths well right right now but he wasn't the strategic mastermind that created all this he was just the one like the the you know the guy who went out and actually did all the stuff but this strategically and the planning planning and decision-making came from her well. You know what i will say as i'm willing to give him that much of a pass on it i i enjoyed it and once the plan he was wholeheartedly on board now. What else would i will say is. I think they were always a team but she was. She was more sociopathic than him and that was one of the things he is then. Both absolutely we're finding this. They both absolutely were as much a a piece a ram. Whatever but you also but you also have this moment where he wants. I want to do right by john and she is not about and she's a it's just a business decision. You say look. He did everything we asked him to know. It's got to go and and so like you know she. She was definitely the the backbone of getting that enterprise to where it's at she and again. Let's go to the lady macbeth. He's very much ready make that she is very much overview of and for its existence. It is the the idea that i only have power if this whole thing if the wheel stand the carton the second the wheels come off the car. I lose all power i we'll ever have. I can't risk losing that power so that you want to be a nice guy that you want to do a face turn right now after we've been the volkhov brothers the whole season. I don't care if the while we're still heels. We're not going to suddenly be the good guys you know <hes> aw essentially she was saying you know he's not family. Well exactly he's now part of our expandable what she says. Look we'll take care of kids. Kids will raise his centers of the world. They'll every advantage to be. Every produce. Great as david is <hes> but in carnegie this thing coming up yeah exactly he is. He is not if he cares about an her view is is. He cared about his kids. He would happily make take that bullet. It's better that the world we find ourselves in at least next. That's the narrative we choose and <hes> you know after she is dead. They basically point out that yeah after admitted to killing all those people yeah we we we know how to use the recorder on the phone temer quarter so in that moment she's like hey calm down your she knows exactly what the can of worms he might be opening up and she's trying to want him but he's not having it you know but but after she's dead they give him the gun and they say they can choice. I came here with two bullets. She made her choice. I you know now you gotta make and then he makes his choice <hes> and here's what they ought to say about differences. When the again these little choices when roussel dies they do a beautiful lighting transition on his is that lets you know he is oh perfect because it does show basically it brightens and then it dims but you still see and it's like oh so it was really beautiful the way they showed russo's death to show essentially him leaving his body in in as well as you you can do in a reality based leading when schultz shoots himself. The light in the room goes out which makes no sense yeah. The only light in that room was directly behind his head. A lot of sense shoots the lights out special maiden. Maybe maybe that's an interesting. Maybe he didn't shoot himself. Maybe he shot the lamp who knows but the application shannon of everything in its own way you know if he's still alive talk coming out and so yeah you know and david is going to do with david view but unless he goes to the safe and grabs at passport with a different name on it and his rundstedt tahiti i dunno and honestly they're fine with that too the thing you just go away and this goes away but he said it's your choice. It's your choice yeah yeah <hes> but yeah he does and it is horrible seeing that one small thing beside the point but <hes> it's somewhat bothered bothered you so much okay so when we get up so of course to get tour bus station seen go with the dive school guy. We see our doctor rushing. She did with his girlfriend which i love. I love that whole scene our guys that to me that that's where you win this series then they do the three months later. Do you know franks all healed up has no scars you know but that's fine. We're going to give them a pass on that but what bothers me is when the two gangs meet payroll young is and it's like well when he when he kills the kitchen irish these did did not look like beverly that maybe that's sort of a window into the degradation of the world itself else can be committing that many murders that they need to be taken up. I'm sure punished. Take these things lightly i and while i understand that as a premise i'm not doubting that first second i don't doubt from minute that the actress playing these heroes take a casting director i would've made try had at least a couple of older dogs in there a couple of guys who clearly had the the had the bone and muscle who clearly had had the blood on their hands and the men folly going but they might have had blood on their hands. It might have been young guys but the world associated out there that they do have tons of blood on their hands. I understand that i'm just saying you have to communicate that to the audience and to me what they communicated was. These are a bunch of punk kids that he's just murdering these are these are essentially amy's friends again. Yeah yeah yeah you know. I know good you know they certainly no and i don't nov any of them had worked with their hands and that's i don't know how many of those guys actually had run on their hands except for selling drugs you know because this is as a group of you know accord gang members. You know you get your leaders there but the fact of the matter is is that they are brought together this moment sort of workout with ostensibly to work out a peace yet. I see what you're saying. It was his forecasting forecasting choice. Book is required. It's too much work on the viewers end sort of compensate for for that yeah. No i think i agree and while we all oh love punish wrong. I just felt like that punisher seen just because it seemed too weird weird seem to ramble we only have. I don't think they deserve well basically i. I feel that the punisher prior to that has always been much more a distance killer much more guy who knows what what he's doing. He's not walking. He's not seeing clip and then opening is gone because they'll have to yeah you know and it's consensual. They're all going to start firing back at them for the punisher to be that dumb about an engagement exactly and and so that was a very poor ending for the series and that really wasn't necessary at all no it wasn't it it literally was it's not you could've ended this with seen in the bus station yeah then you. There's the second episode the second movie of the incredible hulk the t._v. Series in the seventies ends with essentially so you know the first one is <hes> <hes> he becomes the hall. It's a two party comes the hulk. There's a check mcgee goes on. His adventure has to walk away because his friend dies. Everyone thinks he's second episode. He goes wednesday at like this like ran where this woman is gas leading and munch housing this us the heir to the household making their things that she's you know sick when she's not <hes> and hopefully line nine there but <hes> banner winds up in it the whole point of that is he's going to finally get the x. Ray reversal that talk about let's at in the first episode when the first two episode arc as the way that might be able to cure the hulk and at the very end of it they actually haven't get the x-ray reversal oh and they annetta episode now. If that has been the final episode did he hopes he's not could hope it doesn't matter it was a good episode with self contain and for those who want to believe that he cured the hook. That's great for those who want to say no. The focus gonna come back. Which of course he obviously did. That's possible to and end it with some kind of with his kota that just said and now the punishers all going to be the punisher that you know from the comics. I felt it was it was it was cheap and was a cheat. It was it was you know when they do fan paying service in the m._c. You when they have captain america pick up thors hammer actually a lot to that yes it is absolutely fan service but at the same time there is drama that has taken several stories to tell to get us to that right right have okay. He's the punishment the comic style it wasn't necessary in and to me it it hurt part series as a whole you know what it reminds me of it reminds me of somebody thinking that they've won the race already and closing their eyes in pumping their fists to not noticing the the racer behind them speeding up and over taking them at the very last second it's like they lost their focus because they did such a good the job and there were already celebrating and didn't truly analyze the last exclamation point they wanted to put on it and didn't think too hard about the last one because they thought they could do anything wrong yeah yeah well exactly and again like i said we didn't need madani what it's doing without he was flying. We know we we should enter badge okay associate. She's good resume and loaded. She's fine. No is worried about gee what woman danny do next. You know and we didn't need to know what what what punishable next in fact. I think that you know they haven't ended any of the other ones and with that. I think that you know that doing that here honestly ending if anything what what they might have been doing that for was just to f._u._d. Marvel oh to say here's your care. <hes> ooh ooh you know you dig your way out of that so interesting. I don't think that that's that's an interesting thought. It's an interesting thought. I don't think it actually has any weight because i'm certain that marvel is more than happy to ignore any aspect of bright kennedy's under their auspices so like no it's fine you know they'll re-shoot that scene when older guy yeah they'll re-shoot the scene so we know how dangerous these people are <hes> because that's where marvel does so what does i've of that i'd from that it was amazing unbelievable it really like when they did the first season of of <hes> daredevil and all the promises it had and then they delivered us a anti hero against him that was worthy of how great data show that was catapulted into its own series and it ended up being exactly what you want it you know it was just as good writing wii plot wise. They took us as much effort in care with the way they told the story with the fight choreography with with every subtle little detail that it's such a great job eh to see like a show especially in this you know we're all the shows are getting condenses fault. They gave it a thirteen episode run to tell this beautiful story and eh really showed what good they were doing at netflix. We're going to talk about the the guy with the iron fist now. He's he's his own thing. Let s gene humans have been fixed lectures same producers so okay so <hes> those i'm going to say those are lasting now now. I think it was a fun. John reid right. It was worthy of everything we were waiting for and i will say i'm not even gonna. I'm still said this was this wasn't any cepa so even though they failed the extra credit you know but let's be honest. I was just the extra credit right. It's still a one hundred wasn't a one three yeah exactly so so let us call them at night and market onto jessica jones. All your kids coming soon. It's my it's chat as and we really wanna be your fran dan. Yes that's back in and let me tell you something because i couldn't resist. I did bench the whole series. It is it is it lives up to what we want and then honestly don't even say anything anything else on this. It's like the little falter at the end of this. One is made me just so distant seem to perfect before just jones came and gave us burford. The story is so so critic. Okay mine's in the meantime if people wanna talk to you about jessica jones or the pressure or agents of shield. How can they find you. What are they can email me at mas manzoor at gmail.com or finding facebook under mas manzoor. That's komo double z. M. a. n. z. w. o. are of course you can always recommend at all especially where my husband said that super connectivity blog log achy mallakam that super gonna all one word that's g mail i count on twitter as i live tweet a._b._c. shields on my phone salaam power or anything else actually esser. That's go love it. They asked to be part of the show. Okay theorist penitents. I absolve you of all your sins going peas and sin no more and if you do your i'd luck this. 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Risk vs Reward in Small Business

Marketing Management and Money

21:24 min | 8 months ago

Risk vs Reward in Small Business

"Hey everybody says another episode of archiving management and money. I'm your host Ryan Owens. I'm your host Ryan Murray. This week we will be diving into to a financial concept of risk versus reward Love it yeah. This one's going to get spicy so this has been. This has always been an interesting topic for me. Because I've had the fortune the fortunate position to be able to sit back and watch a lot of these things happen in different businesses that I've worked with and and have learned a lot of things with What not to do I guess right? Oh you know it's so harsh when your best examples are bad example. Yeah exactly and so you learn from them exactly and again. I've I've been fortunate enough to not have to tread these waters with my own money but it's been great because Knowing what I know and working with the people that have worked with It's been a really great opportunity tune into for me to help some of these businesses. Avoid some of these terrible terrible mistakes one can be grave ultimately for for small business right and and what I found through my experiences when you start talking risk versus reward the businesses that get it. Oh man they get it at at and works well for them. The businesses that don't get their risk versus reward. What what are you talking about? I was like Oh okay. This is You know in the nineteen thirties. There is a saying saying that It was interest. Dem's that get it get it Dem's that don't don't basically saying that if you understand interest it flows to you if you done understand interest you're paying it out and so you know as we talk about risk versus reward. How much are you risking to start your business? Run Your Business Keep Doing Your Business Day after day after day. And what is the reward that you're getting for that and more so a little bit further than it's more than just being aware of what risk you're taking it's it's acknowledging and planning for the risk that you're willing to assume right you can calculate this. What risk are you willing to take on? What are you willing to lose? What are you willing to sacrifice or give up in order to reach this objective in? Oh and so. I'd like to if I can if I can kind of get Get into the numbers here for sexual I. I'd like to sort of spell out the risk versus reward metrics and there really is a graph. That's going in on here. So if you picture on you know the the one axis you've got risk on the other axis you've got reward and the concept is us. As your risk increases the reward should also increase now usually this metrics is done in terms of percentage or return on on investment percentage. And so if I take on risk than the percentage of my money that I'm getting back from my investment should also increase so. Let me put this into kind of some tangible steps so that our listeners. Understand what we're talking about here place And I do have to apologize to some of our international listeners. Because I'm going to be using some very American examples and yeah so I I know I know that these I mean this is basic finance stuff and so the concepts are going to hold true regardless of where you are but I apologize. I'm only going to using the American examples because well that's where I live and that's what I'm familiar with. And so hopefully that'll be okay so the first thing that I like to look at is I like to look the you know kind of if you if you have a certificate of deposit a CD a CD kind of considered risk-free there. It requires no real education. No understanding no time to manage by you. Just put your money in and you know you sign for that specific acidic termine at at and yeah. Then you're getting get a return on that but those returns are typically very low one percent two percent three percent you might be getting five or six percent grades or high. You know you're not seeing those rates now. I've seen where you get those kinds of rates off off of a CD but you know they're FDIC insured and so you're saying okay at zero risk. I should be getting three percent of my money and I get that. We're talking entrepreneurship and most people were like. Well you know I'm not looking to invest in a CD. But here's the thing. If your business is only producing three percent return then you are far exceeding the level of risk you should be taking fourth with that amount of reward because your business is risky risking your time. You're risking your expertise a lot of times. You got collateral tied up in this. You might have your house on the line. You might have retirement funds tied into personal relationships. Oh yeah there's a lot more than just money involved in risk here uh-huh and so if I'm only I'm getting a three percent I like Woah. Wait a second you could save yourself a lot of time a lot of grief and get that three percent. Yeah a really early easy vehicle you know as as we move up this kind of You know the The line on the graph as it were as as as your risk increases so the next step that you take would be a mutual fund so again mutual funds are considered pretty low risk risk. That's why people use them as a retirement fund is because it's pretty much guaranteed well a mutual fund. You're getting typically eight into twelve percent sure and so but it's tied with the market and so that things go up and down a CD only goes up but it only he goes up at a rave about three percent whereas mutual funds going to go up at a rate of eight percent but one year it might actually go negative so so there's some serious yeah you look at your standard s and p five hundred over the course of a couple of years two or three years you may see some of that you know high variability and look at that and be like I. Don't I WANNA go there but you look at that over the course of twenty thirty forty fifty years. You're pretty well established that you're going to get that that return on it. It's it's like a CD in that sense. It's it's not quite as secure not quite as sure there's more risk involved but ought not. FDIC insured right but there is still that long long track record of you invested for this long. This is what you can expect. Expect to get out of it kind of thing so think about this for a second okay. Let's go with. I'm GONNA just split the middle and put it at ten percent and it's usually wear a character witness to so if I'm looking at I can put my money into mutual fund and I can get ten percent out of that so think about how much people will invest into their business. What if I need one hundred thousand dollars invested into my business? Well if if I took one hundred thousand dollars and put into a mutual fund at the end of the year I should have one hundred ten thousand dollars with again very little effort very little risk berry little expertise. If I'm not hitting these kinds of numbers on my business. Why am I doing it? I take that same they money plug it into a mutual and I'm going to be just fine so as you move up that risk versus reward spectrum from the The higher risk the next level is just directly into the stock market. So you've talked about going into the S. and P. Five hundred we've talked about mutual funds. Well what if I want to just invest in specific stocks. I'm longer as diversified. Yeah you know. Maybe I've excluded some bonds Outta that. Maybe you know the the real estate funds and I'm just going right after those stocks. Well a good stock portfolio you can get twenty percent but all the sudden and I can lose all my money you know I I I need to have higher expertise. It's GonNa take more time so that risk is going up and I'm starting aim to get higher returns where I would expect to see that. Twelve to twenty percent. It's kind of that next gap on that on that spectrum and you and you say lose your money like this. This isn't like you wait a couple of years and it's coming back like it's gone. Yeah this company crashed and burned. And there's ashes rebel strewn across the roadway. Like Mrs. It's not coming back. Yeah Yeah I mean. I've dabbled in some high risk stocks where I'm just like okay. I'm either winning big or you know later. And and oftentimes on those high risk saw stocks. It's like okay well. Lesson learned should not have invested in that one. Yeah and so you know the risk is going up. We expect a higher reward. That's at about twenty percent now. We're starting to touch. Where in my opinion and entrepreneur could consider her? Because I'm going to tell you the risk that you have in your business is still higher than the risk of having a stock market stock. Marsha I got all the perspectives. I've got all the history on these analysts. I've got access to tools. This is known tool in our own process and I would expect to get twenty percent so if I'm getting into my own business and I'm not seeing an Roi of thirty fifty one hundred percent. Why am I doing this right? Yeah exactly you're giving a lot of financial examples but in entrepreneurship. You could go with a low risk option just like how. Mutual funds are lower risk than stocks in entrepreneurship ship. You can go with something. WRO- risk like a franchise right. Something that that yeah you might pay a little bit more upfront to get into. But they're already the track record. It's already established. A lot of that risk is already trimmed out of it. They've shown this is successful. And there's a map to to implement and do this right and it will most likely take off you know and that's a really really smart way to look at it it. I would kind of save. That franchises are sort of the equivalent of mutual funds. And starting your own sort of the equivalent of like the stock market like a mutual fund. It's established you have a fund manager. Who presumably his already done their research? You know kind of put it together for you a a franchise you have. You know the franchise owner who presumably has already done their research and put it together for you. Can I deviate for just just a couple minutes on some interesting information about franchises for sure so franchises have a higher success rate than starting your own business business and if any of you guys out there are listening to this podcast that are maybe wanting to get into business. You Might WanNa look at franchises now. Typically you're GONNA pay as you mentioned you're GONNA pay a lot more for that franchise because part of what you're paying for is you're paying for their process and serve and model. Yeah so they're going to want to get a little bit out of their franchise for Charlotte to make it happen right but you're getting some security. You're you're getting some Some some comfort in knowing that there is a high level of success. And it's interesting so franchises that that have been around for three years or less typically have about a fifty percent chance of success. So it's a pretty new franchise model three years unless you're looking at about a fifty percent chance of success franchises that have been around for twelve years or more They can have upwards of over ninety percent chance of success because that model is so dialed in. They've got a long history. They've got lots of stores and and demographics to pull data from. They know how to do this correctly and a lot of times. You'll see that With that fee that you're paying upfront. They are going to offer your training as well. You'll fly back east and or the Midwest and do their university persident comeback. And you know exactly what you need to do. They literally give it to you right. This is how you do it and you do this. You can't miss it it up. Yeah however you've got to keep in mind so they're gonNA do that training. They're going to tell you how to market now. Here's here's a cautionary so I had a lady. and She She owned a franchise. It was a Deli Sandwich franchise very well known nationwide and she. He was in one of my marketing trainings. And as we were going through and talking about different marketing strategies she started getting really frustrated traded. And I'm like okay. What what's the matter? She's like I'm not allowed to do any of this. What well so the marketing was so dialed wild in that? She was required to follow their marketing plan and she was a little bit frustrated because she was trying signed to grow the business but she wasn't allowed to. And you will oftentimes see within a franchise that they will require you to do certain promos discounts. And you'll see this a lot in in the restaurant area. Where are you might have to discount below your food costs? You might lose money on the promotion. But they're still going to require you to do it. I was going to say a lot. Sometimes those those programs those promotions offerings. They come at a cost to the franchise. Owner the Franchisee. Yeah Yeah and and so. AH THE PROS AND CONS I. I'm not GonNa say that franchises are good or bad. Or but it's important to understand on this scale of risk versus reward and that a franchise is going to be lower on the risk which also means lower on the reward. You're not gonNA take him as much. Pay Typically Glee speaking right. You know. There's always exceptions. But you're not gonna take home as much. Because you're you've got to pay out for those you know franchise which is fees. You've got to pay for what they are going to require. You've gotTa have capital up front to get into the franchise. A quality quality franchises. oftentimes they have a wait list. Or Limited selection you know but so lower risk law reward owning owning your own business higher risk higher reward and so that is a way to kind of mitigate if you're interested in entrepreneurship but you're not quite white ready to you know just invest all of your life savings into an unknown concept thing. There's there's a lot of really good franchise options out there at at quite a spread of of Capital investment like. I was shocked when I started looking into. who how little it costs to get into it? I mean you. You can get into certain franchise models for under ten grand a couple thousand bucks. Some of them are over a million Dan Right. It's over a million with a training extensive training process I was talking to a guy once. he was actually the presenting. It an entrepreneur series and he was looking at getting into a franchise. He quit his six figure. Job Up to you know Oh to to take this training program. You know own a franchise in. He's like the scariest thing I've ever done. Yeah I knew a guy that that did that as well with a I'm going to say it's a burger chain. It's not the Burger chain. You're thinking but He did that with the Burger chain and same thing so he had had to quit. This really really prestigious job and leave his family and go to leave his. They didn't like export. According to yet like you had to go away for a COUPLA months to do this training and then come back and then get this thing off the ground and he said the same thing is I was terrifying. Yeah kind of crazy. So let's bring the sand. I mean we we sort of deviated and talked about. Is there for a minute and I got some good information but really we're trying to hone in on this risk versus reward this Roi. Yeah and I think that there's something that that we really ought to cover before we wrap up with with this week's episode and that is understanding that you can't fully calculate late return on investment without understanding the concept of present value of cash flows. And so let's take a second. Let's just talk Ashok briefly high level about president. I mean if you really want to get into this there's a lot of great content out there But we're going to just cover some some essential some basics that you you need to understand this concept and know that it's out there and it is affecting your business in terms of Roi. Yeah if this is something that as we're talking in it kind of resonates with you by all means take a look into it because it can add some significant value to your small business. Yeah in terms of your knowledge college and being able to operate up correctly optimally SORTA operated optimal optimally so give give us a definition. Yeah present value. Just a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow right so let me give an example if if you want to invest say ten thousand dollars a year business and with the hopes of getting twenty thousand dollars in a year so sure that's that's pretty good investment over the course of a year right. That's awesome so if but if you extend that same investment how instead of getting back in here you sake that back in five years then it's all of a sudden it becomes not a great investment because of the time that it took you to get that investment back. A lot of people think that the money is money. And that will you're like hey doubled my money. But you're not taking into account the the time factor and that's a really really important piece of the concept of present value is that You need to take that into consideration because think of if you double your money every year over the course of those five years you're going to be a whole lot more money than twenty thousand dollars at the end of five years right right and so when you invest in your business you need you to also take that into account. That's the that's the concept of present value right and then so when we're looking at this idea of risk versus reward a risk factor is time. How how long am I going without my money? How long does it take me to get something out of my investment and so it's really important as you were talking about with you know that present value calculation and you know you could get really technical young can calculate present value You know there there's a And the calculations aren't too hard if you You know your spreadsheet analysis will do it Financial calculators will do it. I mean your phone. We'll do it right. So it's it's not hard to calculate but it's not as important for you to do the calculation as it is for you to understand the concept behind it and I think that's really all we want our listeners to know. Is that the longer you're without the money. The more riskier putting into your business and because you're adding risk you need to you. Increase the reward. Yup absolutely so with that. We're going to wrap up today We hope you learn a lot. It was it was a great conversation. And if you have any questions nations please feel free to reach out to us on twitter. At 'em small Biz. That's at eminent small Biz and we look forward to seeing young next episode Okay Eh.

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The Drop | The Podcast Must Go On

The Free Agents

1:00:12 hr | 6 months ago

The Drop | The Podcast Must Go On

"Here the the the bro the so Skewer and welcome to the PODCAST. On the Athletic Network Friday March Thirteenth skeets alongside. Meat has always task. Smells the go. Forget the bearded one trey kerby international man of mystery taking it to the Max Ellis Joe and last but not least the magic happen. It's GD hello. We didn't even bring it today guys on a Friday. Got The drop podcast for you here. Follow us on twitter and Instagram at New Dunk Zinc. You know we're on facebook at FACEBOOK DOT com slash. No don't think we'll I guess it's official? We're now on facebook. Nmls email us your questions and your comments. Oh boy do we need them now. More than ever know dunks at the athletic dot com we will be stepping on the beach. Four Sherlock it in likely a few times next week so get those questions and comments. Don't be afraid whether their MBA related or they're just straight up silly. We'll answer them all all right. We are going to have some laughs here. Hopefully on the drop podcasts. On today's show we do have tweeted the night. We got some Zini rapid fire questions as we always do and Lee is taking over the punt man. It's long settle in this. One could almost be a podcast by itself just cricket at all or did you just take every single suggest. You'd be surprised how few suggestions I took. Because I got a lot of similar suggestion. They just came to me just throughout the week though just popping in and I was throwing them down okay so we teased this that you were going to be taking over the punt gun because we were going to do a cricket version of PUNK guess. I was thinking about it last night when I started getting worried that you were going to be doing this on the podcasts. Are you doing? Mba Cricket plans are the cricket pawns with an MBA slant. It's been overlap. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean the you know some leading with the basketball leading with the creek upon you just and what I'm GonNa do. I should explain it later. But I'm going to rattle through them and then when you have questions you can come back to your questions to Koa. I've tried to also make it so that you can kind of understand what the plan is is that we thought would help. Because that's the thing we don't really know a ton of Oak Creek or any of the cricket players. Sure you're going to be sprinkling in do WANNA just change this to cricket podcast now or I mean we're almost there. We're almost there just giving that one. I'll be honest I know we'll we'll get to that. It's such a tease. Keep your because we want to give you the the NBA Slash Corona Virus Update of what we've learned since last time. We talked you guys on Thursday morning there are few things the first one NBA Commissioner Adam Silver. He appeared on inside the NBA on Thursday night last night and revealed that the League's current suspension would last at least thirty days his words in addition to his statements on TNT silver posted an open letter to fans which he signed straight up within it. He described the situation a bit more detail explaining again that the league does hope to resume play this season if possible. He also said tickets already. Purchased for postpone game will be honored when the game was rescheduled and if games are not played played in an empty arena. Teams will work with fans on a credit for a future game or a refund. So yeah the Big News. I think in the last twenty four hours in regards to the NBA. Is this idea that it's at at least thirty and potentially longer but we were trying to figure out what what is this Is this hiatus two weeks three weeks four weeks or more and we are now have a definitive answer. It's at least four weeks. It's at least a month. It's definitive but it's also independent. One hundred new the hackney little. What's going to happen fast? Back is a month but yeah right. It's going to be. It's a long time and and I started to think about guys not playing for a long time. There's you know the the rumors start coming is Kevin durant potentially coming back to season is. Is there a chance but on the other side the players who will have to come back like let's say a Joel Embiid who probably uses games to stay in shape? You just came back from an injury. Didn't look extremely spry against the Pistons. His talent scored him over. There got him over thirty points because he is that good but I think it will hurt a guy like Joel beat to sit out and then go potentially directly into the postseason to think that hurts the sixers chances because theoretically here a thirty day suspension with an immediate return puts US resuming basketball at basically Saturday April. Eleventh Right Saturday per eleventh. Let's say April twenty something like that before the virus. I mean the playoffs. We'RE GONNA end Wednesday April Fifteenth. And then they would start on the eighteenth you know. We always have that little gap that Thursday Friday break and then the playoffs start on the weekend and we get all those games and we've talked about this yesterday. Are they going to just pick up the regular season and everything's gets pushed back later into the summer or is there the possibility of? It's just we basically just go right into the playoffs. Now the data. I think what you're getting to their task is correct. It's like can we just assume these guys could immediately jump back into playoff intensity basketball? Probably not I mean you would think that would be you know could lead to injuries and just poor basketball has it is so then is there. What's is there like basically a preseason games exhibition games practices. What it will be the decision there or will the regular season. A truncated version of the regular season be looked at. Is that sort of warm up? Is that makes sense. You'd have played sixty five sixty four sixty six so maybe they use that week to say. Let's everyone to sixty seven something like that and then we just call it from there because that's the thing because they're also being advised not even workout together. So that's the real problem because you know you can. You can go to the gym and shoot and stuff like that but guys especially athletes like this like to have that competition at least and those other people working with them so you would expect that the NBA probably wouldn't want them to go straight to the playoffs. I would think right to have a couple of games under their belt if possible and again one eight hundred sixty six and they say we're going to call it at sixty seven that any market one team one game but that might at least give some sort of evenness but you're saying if the NBA doesn't come back and just say we're GONNA play the rest of the regular season. Yeah and we're going to start the playoffs a month or two later. I mean which is in play. I mean I think it's definitely a possibility. You're looking at using some sort form of the regular season. Let's say let's call it three five seven games. Whatever it is a truncated version of it as a basically a second training camp lead into the playoffs. And what the thinking about it even more they might say. Let's go just to seventy games. And then the playoffs. Maybe week two weeks or make the first round best-of-five again or something like that to make it make it work a little bit. These are all the questions for Adam. Silver in the board. I don't know how they find the right solutions. Well the first round is always pretty spaced out anyways so that could easily be sort of sped up. Yeah Yeah there's two games on each night. Quite offense sometimes three games. You could easily bunch games up to shorten it a little bit. Because I doubt they're they're not GONNA change the playoff format. They're not going to go to best of five but they could start later. Speeded it up. I still imagine that I mean it's all going to depend on how long the hiatus if it's a thirty day hiatus. I think we'll get the rest of the regular season because I mean seventeen games a lot. You Twenty Games as a lot. But it doesn't take all that long especially if you're then going to smash together the playoffs and make make it not be a forty nine forty days and forty nights a first round if you're able to smash that you're able to play the entire regular season because the owners are going to want to play those games. The owners are going to want to recoup the money that they are missing out right now. Non Playoff teams for sure. Everybody literally everybody. If if owners are fronting the money to pay for the people who are going to be out of jobs during the hiatus they're Gonna. WanNa that money back so that's if it's thirty days though I mean if if it's a forty five day wait like how long are they gonNA push the season to go to because I would agree with tasks that they probably won't change the format of the playoffs like we'll probably still get best two sevens all the way through just because that's the way it's done but I mean if the if the hiatus stretches longer and longer than perhaps those get smashed together a little bit too and we talked about yesterday if you use the Chinese Basketball Association as any sort of example at ten plus comes from when they stop to when they started going again in the League? Mba is hoping that you know. Maybe they get started a lot earlier than that. Of course be at the four weeks five weeks or whatever it is but yeah and then do that. I mean if it if they just pick up and they continue the rest of the regular season and then the playoffs in all its entirety. It's just going to have an effect of course on everything else. Hit the draft and whatever if the Olympics are happening. I mean you can basically write off a lot of these guys for team. Usa guys. I would assume maybe other other international players for their team's going to represent it would be like bud up right against it. Yeah again if that even happens and so far is on which seems a little while but yeah I was cool refreshing to at lease and silver came out. He said this is at the minimum. This is the hiatus and also we don't know from here we do not know. We are still in like full-blown information gathering just like everybody else's but we have decided and we saw how quickly a lot of the other leagues followed suit after the NBA. And after commissioner silver said Okay well we're shutting this down. Forget this idea of like playing in front of Noah. No fans in the arena. We saw how quickly everybody else started to do that. But I liked least said he was like we don't know though this could be. We're hoping it's a month is. It could be a way longer. Yeah I mean. The funny thing is withdraw. Obviously the tournament is so important to determining the the few first picks I mean I. I wonder what's going to happen with the draft. I mean you know. They've been playing games. But you know this. This is the time to Sean. Many of those players. So it's GonNa be a really weird situation this year. It's it's definitely an indefinite period of time. But you will definitely be with no dunks for as long as it rolls we will be here to see it through however long it is. It's thirty good. Be a heck of a lot longer. Yeah they also pushes back free agency and all that in bumping into August. But we'll be right and then what effect does that have if any on the next season and when that starts and is that pushback and it's it is this domino effect here. Yeah you said at the AA. Its men's and women's basketball tournaments on Thursday because of course the spread of the corona virus. So that's done. March madness completely done. A lot of you were shocked by that decision. Because that's the straight up cancellation now. That's not like hey we might do this later. Which you gotTa feel for. Obviously the senior athletes and I'm not just talking about basketball is older. Ncwa winter and Spring Championships baseball volleyball bowling fencing golf gymnastics hockey track volleyball. You know beach volleyball mental rifle rowing skiing softball swimming diving like all the tennis water polo wrestling all of them. And if you're a senior athlete like you're done yours and your season's over. Yeah and you know I saw a lot of people. I think it was east. Tennessee's states coach basketball coach. He's suggesting like is. Is there any way like some of the seniors should be another here? Eligible have eligibility for another year. Because of this weird circumstance and you you do you gotta feel bad for all those athletes that are like gearing up for the championship. They're swansong and they don't even get a chance. Now it's crazy. I don't know what to say. I mean it's like all those sports enlisted all. Those people affected a lot of them hoping to make career out of it too. So this is I mean. Everyone's just everything is on hold around the world. This is just something we've never seen before. Where so many things? So many people just affected by basically just being told stay home right. Now that's the best we can do. That's the most we know crazy stuff. This is super super low on the priority list. But I'm just curious if you guys have seen a tweet that maybe I missed addressing it you know. I said silver talked about refunding fans the idea. If they can't get these Games that they're refunded their money. They were like League pass subscriptions if there are if there isn't another if there isn't a quarter of the regular season or those people refunded like a month through their cable companies or through the NBA. Yeah I was thinking that last night who knows You get sort of would think they would almost have to. They're not giving you. The full service deals though right whether like watch the last few weeks of the regular season twenty nine ninety nine or something like that discounts towards the end of the year will not if I paid full price at this point. I mean I paid for. They're probably going to be say and you'll get those games. Yeah Yeah April back. Yeah I just hadn't seen anything written about that The other news yesterday Rudy. Gobert apologized took to instagram. His first public comments since testing positive for the virus. He says it was careless with his actions that expose others to the to the disease and he says that he hopes that story serves as a warning and causes everyone to take this seriously Chance to read it. I'm sure got to sort of feel bad. I I know it's fun to clown touch the MIC. And it was careless and he addresses that but it is weird. Though then you see I think it was Bruce Arthur Toronto star saying in a weird way did rudy. Gobert save a lot of people from themselves here in shutting down the NBA. Really being patient zero and then spreading to all the other leagues in a weird way to the accidentally. Maybe do you know if you're trying to look it a matter of time? He is the first one and unfortunately for him. He's going to be the guy who brought the corona virus to the NBA for the rest of his career. And we're GONNA have the video of him. Touching all the microphones. Even though he likely didn't pick it. Up from the microphones. Or get it from the microphones. They say that's a low risk encounter with Rudy Gobert. That's why you don't joke about it because if it comes back and you have corona you're gonNa feel like an idiot and that's why he said I was embarrassed. You should be embarrassed but you're right. I mean it was going to happen eventually. We know that Donovan Mitchell. Had if he stayed as symptomatic he probably wouldn't have been for the entire time maybe in two weeks he gets it but then we've played two. More Games are two more weeks of games when people are altogether. Who knows who the heck knows who has it and who doesn't have it. It has to be you know permeating throughout the NBA. It just it just has to be and Donovan Mitchell. You mentioned him. He wrote a post. Didn't mention rudy whatsoever. And I know it's not a time to really read into things but he goes on. Espn says there's risks in the in the in the jazz locker room. And I did think Donovan Mitchell. Not Defending Rudy in that post Was something clear especially team struggling on the basketball floor as well. I think if you're looking at teams that need more time on the floor to get better at basketball before the house. I think that's one of the sixers or one of them too. It doesn't bode well for for time. Victor Oladipo needs more time. Some of these guys need more time off in it and like we saw in the shortened season went. Good teams like Spurs who ended up winning the thing Are Together for a really long time had been together for a really long time. These these scenarios don't bode well for for basketball or just whatever the heck is going on in that locker room but yet rudy doesn't deserve all the hate but unfortunately videos exist For him well also on instagram. Kevin love he pledged one hundred thousand dollars yesterday to aid arena workers displaced by the League's response to the Krona Virus Loves ACT OF GENEROSITY HERE IT echoed a joint statement released by the cavs and their home arena the rocket mortgage field house where they vowed to develop a compensation plan to continue paying our staff. An hourly workforce that is impacted with the changes to a regular event schedule. Great this is on the heels of Cubans saying similar things as soon as he found out that the league was suspended. The other Night Mavericks Hawks Kings Pistons and Sixers have committed right now to some sort of compensation program for arena staff. So you know I think zillow rights more and keep your eyes on you. Know what teams are in are not doing anything or even saying anything at this point because it is important to a lot of these people it takes a lot of people to to run an NBA game you know parking and ticket sales and obviously concession stands at security and on and on and on and a lot of them. That's how they make their livelihood and if there is something in plan from some of these obviously billionaire corporations and that good on them and they should yeah and I hope more follow so Yeah Kevin. Love's example there because he just did it and the we know that a lot of plaza on a lot of money that they could you know form together and put one hundred thousand dollars each and really make this Not Too bad for those people who think about how much the owners make. Well should have already from owners that they're going to be paying this. I mean it's awesome that Kevin love doing it every player that would be great if every players willing to kick in one hundred thousand dollars but every billionaire owner should be kicking. I agree a hundred percent But for the fact that Kevin Love's stepped up already. You know you you would think the other players will fall asleep to some degree. I mean not. All of them can probably afford that. The summer on the on the lower end of the The the salaries that they but you would think that they would certainly try to do something. Show their support and appreciation for those workers who put in so much to make the make the game so great all right. So there's your updates now unless I'm forgetting one. I think it's obvious who the real worst is. A week is hoax. Give it to the virus shutting down the NBA which we love so much but you got something else in store so we're still. Luik Ladies Gentlemen the worst of the week yeah. The virus can't get worse. Luik can see and everybody wants to give it to Rudy Gobert. But he was joking when he did touch those reporters recorders. He didn't think he was getting everyone sick. It was a dumb dumb move but at the same time when things were being canceled on Wednesday night everyone was still embracing and high fiving in the NBA. Vince Carter hit a shot. He was hugging. Everybody it's happening throughout the NBA Rudy. Gobert has definitely the poster child but few mentioned that video until after he tested positive as my man. Stan van Gundy says right. The story when the corona virus is in the air. Okay so yeah everybody. In his defense he was literally showing solidarity with the media. Reporters like this idea of like all. We gotta be six to eight back. It's like we don't want you the reporters to infect us the players and he's mocking joking that concept. I think in a sign of support for the media you know what I mean. If that that makes sense Brian Lebron got up. There had the exact same thing. He didn't touch everybody stuff. And said I miss you guys? That's another nice way of doing it. Without touching everything was he was being a child. He made a big mistake at the same time. The report the recorder should have been there. It really doesn't make a lot of sense to have. We talked about it on Thursday. Show to have this six feet gap but to have devices that we all touch right there. Anyway let's move on Rudy. Gobert is not worse than the worst of the week. Winter is a Greek Fan who was at Staples Center this week. Following the Lakers win over the box. This guy confronted bucks brothers and fellow Greeks Gupo in the tunnel. The fans taunt super lame. I was surprised to editor. Kube Rose especially the Nasi turned around to confront him so let. Let's listen and you'll hear the interaction and then I'll translate after here the clip which is courtesy of Lauren. Jones Okay so the fans starts by saying Yanni you ate it. You ate it today in the ASS. That's good that happened to you. This is knbr brother. Vanessa turns round runs at Greek man like that Hawk America America America America America commit close. Yanni also falls. Come here and that's how you talk. Your kids must be proud. You're a liar. You're a liar I salute you. I salute you Bravo. Bravo was a quick quick interaction there but I think the fact that this Greek man was speaking in Greek really irked. Nasi especially because I was ready to just go back to the locker room but I was peeved and such a lame. Taunt me in the ASS is it's it's basically eh great like a great thing to eat it in the ASS. I guess because they they had just lost. You lost to the Lakers. But he also you know he. He recoiled to if an SE. When Adam he was he didn't want it as part of a shock and it was good story. Lame lame taunt just to throw that in there just to get another language in there for everybody out. There travel the world right now but travel at another time. Also don't do dumb stuff like that because it's a perfect example of someone with the stupid stupid You know insult as it is Ruining the possibility of a good thing for everybody else right the one bad apple. Because we've seen these before these interactions. Let's say in the back sort of going back to the locker room. You said right. It's like in the tunnel and it's been cool to see I think a lot of Nba Arenas have this word. Setup like fans can sort of stand there and see them. Come out and go back right. I know there are like there's like that little cool bridge thing and Is that Madison Square Garden. I think it is if unless I've got a mistaken with another arena but anyway my point is you have these interactions. Will you get to the point where they're like? Well why would we gonNa have this for everything else? So just completely get rid of this cool thing and I mean cool thing for like kids and being a kid and seeing. Jonah's run by you like one beside you would maybe give you a high five again before the virus but you know what I mean. That's Awesome I. I can't imagine I never experience that when I was kid. Be The coolest thing in the world. See Your Superhero one foot away from you and maybe give you five or throw something you get an idiot like this and then eventually you can like this and then it's like well. Let's stop doing this and sad. It's it's the same thing if someone's sitting courtside pushing player and it's like you're just going to ruin it for everybody else. That is actually really enjoying the experience. Just being nice to people you know. That'S PRETTY EASY. Very very weird. All right good worse Luik Test. We got fired upon gun. Still we do have tonight and we got rapid fire but Lee. Yeah we're from. 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I'll take care of the ties. Yeah it's great. You're happy with your wedding photos. Yes happy yeah Yeah we had a very good photographer. I think it was three guys in the end with. No there was a girl by one guy left early. So yeah they weren't in your face you didn't find ours. I in fact one of the photographers stock. Because it was free booze was opened by. I think he was indulging so it might have fun because we had one of those arrays like. We didn't get our photos after our wedding for like two months man. What's happening here turned out? Our photographer had a heart attack the day after our wedding. Oh what but he made. It made it through the pictures turned out whole no signs the NATO values party at home. It's the most fun I've ever had it a leading. Oh Nice cool man. I'm glad you're having a great time a little too much for a while. Excel Okay Great. Jd Weigh Yourself. Have you ever wedding photos? No not really to be honest. Did you get married in Mexico? I did yeah. And we had The the resort that we got married at provided the photography. It was fine. It was fine except that We had a big fight with him. Because we wanted the negatives this is like we wanted before digital negatives We did finally get them but the prince that and I'm glad we did because the prince that we got there so faded and he used such cheap paper and they're just like they look like old time is like we got married in the nineteen to go into a boardwalk dress up as an old time and then you expect her and then you burn the edges of Photoshop sepia toned. Not Kid and now people are doing that on instagram purposely. Ahead of your time by being behind your time so videos because you're wanting a dying thing right like less than less people I feel like our into it. Maybe that's true. I remember it being a huge debate before our wedding we are. We GonNa do this or we're not going to do this. We eventually decided not to but now I kind of wish we would now. I wish I could actually go back and look at it but just have another wedding. You know all the people we've met in the past eleven years. Sorry not account relieve video winning but I think it was more just a compilation of other people's things but the funny thing is when we got it you watch it like once and that's it and that's what the debate is right. It's like we could pay all this money. You're right sort of cool to have but like are we going to watch this winter? We actually like I wish I had it because I don't have it if I had it what I actually do anything with it. I know I haven't looked at my wedding album for. I mean maybe once a year when the girls are curious about it and I'm like yeah you guys can look at this but literally. Do not touch only physical photographs. We have look do not touch us like the Declaration of Independence Modal Feet from it. Maybe that's why videography I for weddings are dying out a little bit. People have their phones there. Yeah some of your videos. At the end of the night you know everybody get into landscape mode will cut them all together. Your own document right there just either doing yourself like a lot of people could or just hiring editor whippet together. Yeah did you did you videographer. No no I don't I couldn't remember somebody. Wait WAIT WAIT. You got married. Congratulations thanks all right. We're going to do here. Yeah we're GONNA fire the punt gun. Dad well he challenged earlier this week to come up with some tasty cricket puns and you've had four days which is longer than the usual ten seconds. Sir. One M prepared to be dazzled. All right here. We go run and test match. Austin one Austin Pitch Richmond Tim leg break where League La Iman stumping Karl Anthony towns. Cat Munns no bold. Tom Gugliotta Tom. Gugliotta just googly. Yes sorry Thom googly. Oughta that Riley Ball Robert Covington long on Baron Davis Saunders. Murray Wayne Wide Kevin Golden Duck with Golden Duck First Ball. If you go out first ball if you go to bat and the very first bull you get caught behind the golden duck yet if you go at like second knock on wood is just the duck. A Golden Duck is I. Yeah Jerry West indies. This one I came up with just last night. Saieed and one and one Regina Richie Benaud Rudra. And I've heard that name speaking Richie Benaud. How about Yoenis Valentina? Now he pronounces things. That's all that viv. Richards Jefferson White House. That MC Alonzo g shelve is William Sheldon Williams. We'LL BE W L B W will be free. See What I'm saying that Colin six ton Jalil Oca- four nauseam one hundred just just numbers all right. The rule keenly express Raymond sessions. I wanted to really like shoehorn. The Rural Pindi expressing it Audi. Jay Ford out traffic new court was the acronym Allan Back. Boorda finally can be Matombo over and out the most ever. Oh Man. That was fun unbelievable. Yeah can't believe you didn't couple of session tendulkar kind rick crazy right great. Shane Heal warney perfect. All right let me get to the third. Most famous person to ever play cricket. Brian Lara Bar. I got nothing well so that was a lot of fun for you. Yeah thanks to everyone. Who sent in suggestions so I couldn't give share that so many of them. A lot of these suggestions got doubled up a little bit. I had some of my own as well. So you know but the cricket community and the basketball community really starting to overlap here. It's a lot of people suggest. And let's have a quick podcast. While we saw I saw you might have to be doing that. Are they playing cricket? They actually playing cricket with Empty Arenas Right now which is Very very weird That they still playing because the basketball and strata. The League finals are on right now and I played two of that like this morning. Fans and friends friends and family were leading but Yeah pretty crazy. Jd. What'd you think he killed? It killed it I would have you know just putting my Matt Austin had on shorter a little show. Wow See. I couldn't risk like saying putting ten. That's it that's all you could come up afterwards so I'M GONNA go way too many here fair. It is cricket. It should be long. That's a good point and it wouldn't have been able to get rim. Yeah Manute Bol I think was choice. I was I was shocked by how many actually understanding their couple in there. I didn't have any clue what you're really referencing. But Flip Saunders. Yeah so what sets like. Shane warne balls. Didn't know that it sounded like a cricket tax is fielding position Haslett. Murray a excellent work. Yeah there are a ton of people who sent in random punt guns. But I didn't give them to you just just because I wanted to. Do you mean through email Daniel Daniel. How's that Chris Middle Stump? Yeah I had a house that bold has that Modena's understand what house that is by the way. So when you if you'RE A Bola and you bullet and so your legs and let us stand in front of the wicket and the Bulls. Block block repetitive. Hit the Patriots. You have to appeal to the empire and say how's that to say was that out. That's what you appear in the empire and say how's that to say. I think that was leg-before-wicket LBJ. W so you're saying or the pitcher is the one saying the fielding team. Yeah everyone can appeal. Yeah exactly how's that and they're saying how's that that guy put his leg in front of the of the saying how's that is that out and the empire will give you a little head or he'll raise the finger like that. Yeah but now you can appeal these decisions instant replay. Yeah well we go upstairs and I and I have to line it up to see if it was like it was in line at the page and they have Hawkeye. Basically determine we're slowing down a game that takes two. I'll tell you what works pretty well and this because it helps affect the decision if the ball was going to carry through to hit the stumps or not well. He's one of the worst offenders. I'm glad he's fireworks narrow and if it gets guys we're good all right. Great stuff really. Let's get to tweet of the night. Tweet remarried all right well You know I went on twitter at this morning and last night Trying to find something that wasn't corona virus related And I found one from someone who I like to think is a friend of the show. But he probably doesn't even know this show even though he's been on the show it's league our favorite bass players and basketball fan and he tweeted last night. Wealth just cried at an episode of Friday Night Lights. This is what it's come to. I'm finished take it easy. Take Friday lights. You know. Clear is full hearts. Can't lose your rate here year. Human man you're just human. He's actually insect but well true true but it got me thinking in this age of binging. A lot of people just haven't gotten around to seeing certain shows. Yeah Alley Gertz a former editor at mad magazine that I follow recently tweeted. She was just just now getting into six feet under and loving it and we're all about to have a lot of time on our hands So I'm going to actually run through my top five in case you missed it. Show off on top by Tom. Tom Top now number. Five is Friday Night Lights. I mean who doesn't love a good high school? Melodrama I seen the whole thing the whole thing. It's so good loved the movie. The movie was great. I I would say that. In this instance the show is better there does. There's a major misstep in the second season but make it through that you will be handsomely rewarded and it has probably one of the best mid series resets in television history and. I'll leave it at that. Okay how many seasons are we think there's five let's see so yeah? Would it be ridiculous to hop in season three? No not no. I gave up during season. Two Yeah Fair but I would. I would just jump back insertive at near the end of Caesar season number four godless. Now this is a mini series at seven episodes threatened written and directed by Scott Frank. He wrote things like minority report. Logan like movies and it's just a really fun Western. It's on Netflix. This is a western. Yeah I'm in. I'd heard about this once. I had no idea it was a western you it you missed all right. Mrs It. You'RE GONNA love it Number three this is a weird one. It's the my the entry into Reality Television it's the profit now have you heard of this show it's on CNN CNBC. It's basically if you love makeover shows which I do and if you love by rescue do you know John. Taffer yelling at people. Just I just one of the most entertaining you can see but also just failing businesses that are made over and but without the intensity of John Taffer So it's basically the prophet is Marcus Lemoyne is. He's a billionaire and he goes to different failing struggling businesses any invest his own money. And it's great. It's just great television and sometimes and every deal is different and sometimes he'll just walk away and it's just a really great show this was on that's on CNBC. Yeah wow so you can stream that on. Nbc Dot Com whatever profit number two fargo such a great show. I don't know that a lot I don't hear a lot of people talking about it The fourth season is about to come out. Each season is stand alone with a completely different cast in a completely different time period. But it's still all connected and it's just great it's just a great show From the movie it is. It is very loosely tied to the movie right. It's in the same universe as the movie for share and the way they tied into the movie is very clever Chris Rock Song. Yeah and it's great number. One is Downton Abbey. This show one of the greatest of all time. You'll get swept up in the in the romance in the the The intrigue and just turn of the century nineteenth century Britain upper class lower class. I love it I love it I love it. It is done now right because they've started to make a movie. The yeah the movie came out. I haven't seen the movie yet. It's one of those things where I just don't WanNa Watch the movie because they don't want it to end. I don't want it to be over. You'll laugh you'll cry. It's just you have a favorite character. That's a good one Mr Carson love Mr Carr saw you know about this Downton Abbey. Yeah I've heard of it. No interest not really You're missing out. You are missing out. How many theories like five or six years six seasons and then the movie which I assume is out on streaming now rented can add that to the list one hundred percent. Yeah I was upset. Laura went without me great and then she came back like it was good. Like you WANNA see it. I was like well. It doesn't sound like you're excited again. So guess I'LL BE WAITING TO SEE cousin matthew in my own home. What are you GONNA do? I mean those are some good suggestions. You'RE GONNA take any of those or do you have something else that you might tackle with no basketball What are you GonNa do it yourself? Yeah well that'd be numb thinking about an idea. I'M GONNA give it a try to do exist because you obviously haven't committed but if you say it now you will undoubtedly commit well. My wife has been Encouraging me to write a book okay so I I did actually start this probably two years ago but it didn't really get going okay. Okay and I've always had you know it's hard to get into during the season and then during the season it's always hard if you're traveling. Yeah and stuff so little window here. I've got some time and I'm going to just she just said. Just write down your stories right in things and see what happens so a memoir or is it a novel kind of. It's kind of a journey basketball journey of like you know where I started following the NBA. Then working for MBA. Doing it as living in you know. Obviously things like shooting with Steph curry and you know you know excited listeners. Art Listening to this right now. There's a lot of yeah here. We go this book. I'm serious. It's funny when you know because like task it's very it's Tony because I'm like. Does anyone really care? But then when you start writing stories and tell stories and people talk about on the show like we'll see. I don't know how long it's GonNa be at the records much be. Hey here's some stories. Please call the book. Here's here's some stories. When you start when you get to. Whenever you're done writing it just please be the last sentences that'll do. Yeah I mean it's GonNa be just traveling stories and basketball stories and how they sometimes intertwined I think Oh man does get his own chapter well he might because he's got a tattoo so yeah we'll see I don't know I mean I have no. It's it's one of those things didn't WANNA share. Because I'm like what I'm GonNa do with this weekend. Edit this out just got to at least try. That's the thing. It's a huge challenge to to feel that like you know you can actually put something down. That is readable sure. What's harder writing a book or reading the environmental? There's another challenge. I can try to knock out in the next days that he's right. Thank you thank you. Good Good Luck. He was posted. We'll share some of what you've written or the coming weeks old pieces and then we could be just a chapter of his book. Yeah the potential chapter and then we can. Yeah we can go. There's something I'll try to have one for next Friday. Okay great love it so you got set a deadline thing. You need to be outside right. I'm doing this and that's it and the the other thing was you know with the boss will in Australia last year. I thought that was a good way to sort of so. Yeah yeah the prodigy son returns. Yes just how how I would've felt as a twelve year old knowing that like the best in the world we're coming close to the business to that'll do All right well good luck. Yes something to look forward to again next. More Workman is the worst thing. You gotTa write a whole chapter and then read this guy. That's more than fifty long all right before we go here for today's podcast. Rapid Fire Fron. Got News for you guys earlier this week before. Of course the virus scare. Espn posted a great story about how bobbleheads become the NBA's biggest little status symbol. Did you know that then? Wolves Guard Chauncey BILLUPS was the first bobblehead given away at an NBA game. Wow I had no idea so funny looking bobblehead to bobblehead technology has gotten a lot better. It's improved quite a bit. Yeah there's even like quotes in the article there like when we first started doing these it was just about getting him out didn't matter even who it looked like. We gave them a bald head. That's fine like if you had shown me the bobblehead said try and guess who it is. Michael Ruffin was off the Phillips. I think but anyway. It's a fun little fact knowing that now I want you to tell me though. What personal details would be included on your bobblehead leap? Well for me I would like it to be dressed like Mesa shorts t shirt and flip flops and a boat in the shorts pocket which is indicates a Hanky panky onside fucking okay and also allied bid because thinking on two years now having a bit. It's a state. It's a part of me. Glasses of classes. Yeah loss and maybe two sets of headphones one on your ears around your neck sure. Why not? Okay task? Well I'm not going to have a beard even though I carry one daily. I'm going to have just a soul patch. Why have always wanted one? Not really a by. I think it would be only bobblehead in the world with just a soul getting. It'll be a HITO Turkogle doll and it'll get injured and broken. You never had a soul patch and it's always interesting to watch because there was a look those out there. You gotta try it. It's one of those but it's more it's it's it's a lot more beneficial when you think about it this time. Thanks rare to pitchers in the major league baseball who had soul patches that were grown up past their Chin. Did Not like that. Like a rat tail on Calia face. Rat Tail Jd Yeah what do you got on your bobblehead mine is. I will have a beard. Obviously be wearing headphones. Yes cargo pants and I would like to be roller skating on roller skates. No particular reason. Just it's fresh in my mind. Cause still bummed that. I missed roller skating. We go back. We gotta go back well if they're still open. I'm not sure we have a lot of talented designers. I'd love to see like mockups of these three bobbleheads. In if you're up to it you know Lee with all the things that you mentioned task gotTa have a soul patch. Jd on Roller Skates. Hey I know you guys can do all right our next one. This question comes from Mike in Luxembourg. Who recently bought himself a Kabukicho? Thanks to Lee always going on and on about it it was Mike's first taste of that. Sweet fermented tea and he found it disgusting. Mike was not a man who's Maybe a little disappointed so his question though. Have you ever been talked into something and then immediately regretted doing it or buying it? Well Hey Mike knows it or more than one flavor Kombucha I was gonna try something else because there are a few wolf wants out there. I will say But yeah in terms of being talked into doing something. I one time my turn to do the driving for not out on the town with the guy's house at twenty or so and now we're having a few beers in the back and we're part of the freeway where it was open and one of the guys who go on what was put your foot down cops adhere feeling peer group pressure. I put my foot down within honestly twenty seconds. I saw the red and blue flashing lights and win the Cup. He wasn't happy by Naughty. Saw The guys in the back during you addicted. Speeding with a couple of DICKHEAD might get out of here but get Outta here. He was not happy but rightfully so to chapter twenty years. Old Twenty a few traffic infringements on their. Yeah yeah that's rough. Yeah but again I mean someone just says going your worst and you've got all right cost me bad one hundred and fifty bucks which you know. That was a lot of money back. Then would you get that bad way up to Like not that far. I think it was one hundred ten kilometers per hour when I was doing like a hundred and twenty five Bailey. I think I think you're allowed up to one hundred officially latte up to one hundred and twenty three or something and I was doing one twenty five. Yeah so listen to this party story. Yeah I can follow that baby. I'm in Costco. I'm with my with Danielle. My lovely wife she said. Let's get these Kale chips for a healthy snack. I said sure I guess I'm not really going to draw pictures we get into. The car is big bag of chips. I'm talking the length of a torso big bag kale chips opener up. Dig In and it's just dry nothingness. There's no flavor there's nothing but crumbly Kale bits in my teeth. A waste of time so he turned that car around and we return it to Costco. Full refunding they do they. They'll take back they'll take any and no questions asked but you didn't even I'd just hate these zero no excuses. Not I'm I'm allergic to Kale. No nothing and this was an effort. Costco wasn't but honestly what a party time that. Jd Pretty much every time. I'm invited to go golfing and I accept. I regret it almost time. How many times does this happen? Probably ten times total just I suck at it. I get really self conscious because I had to. Because you know there's people behind you plan through and and all that and I don't like riding around the carts the only time I've ever enjoyed it as if I'm walking if I'm carrying my clubs. I like that because it's just a walk in the park. Really Golfing tone. You do the What do they call it? The par three courses little Little tiny courses someplace. Those are fun. Yeah I'm a horrible gopher to but you can sort of hang with that. Yeah Yeah in Toronto. The right by Victoria Parkas Dantonio anyway. That was one of the few times that -secutive course yes. They could think all right final one here. This queue by way of Mark See. He writes sup. No pants currently listening to Wednesday's shorts and pants classic. I was once told by a young man working at a Banana Republic that a belt is an accessory not a necessity really stuck with me in a way. That influences everything. I do pants related. Do you have anything that someone said to you when you were younger. That really stuck with you sleep. Well lots of things stuck with me. But I didn't really realize until I became a dad and I started just saying bad things to my kid and the one that really harm was on when Sebastian was just born about three months old and used for feet so as We sort of got Roxana. You know to go into the breastfeeding position. He started just cry. You know because I just get like they needed straight away and I just said okay okay. There's no need to carry on like a pork chop you'll be there. That's that's just. I don't know if that's an Australian dad site but it was like I know it doesn't make any but I was like wow dickey must've said he said to us a lot. Yeah but you know you sort of forget about it when you grow up then you become a dad on that dislike. It's it's just heating the way you were talking a three month. No no all right task. Cool well when it comes to life. The days are long but the years are short. It's true claw. Go a plug away every day. You work hard you go to bed. You do the same thing the next and before you know what? Those years a pass it's true. That's very true depressing bill. I don't know if it's depressing. Reality is a you know. I actually don't know where I think you would say. It's just a saying out there. Yeah it's not it's not something I've Proprietary information but it's a good one. That's very good. Jd My grade for teacher. Ms Sheffield once told me a person's shoes you look at a person's shoes you can tell almost anything everything you need to know about her. Heard something like that before. Yeah and to this day the first thing I will look at. If I'm meeting somebody for the first time is there. She's always. I'm always looking at people's and do you think it. I think it's kind of true in the sense of obviously the style of shoe. They're wearing Of Quality of shoe like that both of those things and what kind of shoes they're wearing if you see sort of like a dude in a business suit. But he's wearing cowboy boots you know just tells me there's just intangible thing about this guy he's just. He does not conform to things. And you know he's a redneck at heart. Maybe you know oil. Yeah exactly exactly so. You're always looking down always looking down about a dad wearing a t shirt shorts and flip flops with big Baggy Bolger. This pocket guy is unconcerned. Bobbleheads who just want to us so do the markup that one we'll see if we could share it on inskip all right. That's rapid fire. Cut The music. How do you feel about that music? Jd WITH RAB. Far Back about it. you know. I mean I don't care. Yeah that's the rapid fire music. Yeah Yeah I mean. That's kind of the joke. It's not rapid but it's it's try it goes on forever. That track is I've lost it. How long is it? It is Is Six minutes seven minutes anyone else already? Four thirty thirty five twelve eight. It's nine forty. A rapid fire often almost always have to restart. Yeah so wow speaking about being rapid. Let's go back to the topic. I've been looking at your shoes jd. 'cause I can't see your face the last week or so. Yeah you've been wearing the same shoes sort of Standard Sita's trainer. Use me well every day. I think every day for the last five days every day. Don't let your answer day. Don't have to be you've been wearing days. Why are you offended? You have to wear shoes when you leave the house. He picked the shoes. I'll I'm I if you notice I'm also wearing Track pants like I'm going to gym after after. That's why you're right because there are different shoe for you. Yeah they are not my usual. This is my my runner. Runner look usually Ra- cowboy boots. He's FLIPFLOP I. Do you feel about leaving the gym. Sweaty shoe I don't like it but it's efficient and I just got my cargo. It's what I wanted to know. End This rapidly. Absolutely love it guys? Email us no dunks at the ATHLETIC DOT COM tweet at US. Hashtag no dunks at no Dunks Inc. We ain't going anywhere that's the plan we're going to continue podcasting even though we don't have the NBA for at least thirty days here. We're going to try and make it through. We're GONNA have some fun. I've seen already 'cause I asked. We asked you guys sent in some really good ideas. I mean there's been some brutal ideas and twisted but there have been some good ideas in terms of maybe concepts for a particular show that we already do a series. We already do like squad. Or you know crossfire. We wants dead or guest or something like that or even new ideas that we could try. And I think that's what we're going to be doing. I never had a brainstorming session later today. Jd you're not going to the gym anytime soon. We gotTA start planning the weeks ahead here and get creative so keep your ideas come in is my point at the athletic dot com or at no dunks. You heard it here. I have a great time. Turn up love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining US and remember. Everybody puts their shoes on one adidas sneaker at a time brace the weekend people a B. It's been so long days it's Kennedy.

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Hard Factor 11/5: Do The Democrats Finally Have Their Smoking Gun For Impeachment?  Also...A Man Is MURDERED Over A Popeye's Chicken Sandwich

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Hard Factor 11/5: Do The Democrats Finally Have Their Smoking Gun For Impeachment? Also...A Man Is MURDERED Over A Popeye's Chicken Sandwich

"What is this is Joe? Man Randy savage this factor in there is no one that does it better now but it doesn't matter go ahead. Tell me something right down. Not a rate phone Do another episode of heart back to it is Tuesday November fifth so remember remember the fifth of November number the gunpowder treason and plot. That's right clever. Remember that V for Vendetta. Yeah and the Halloween power hour more recently. Yeah that was the bombing of the French. English French are involved but the mask looks like he's a French guy. Yeah it's confusing so trying to throw them off. He's saying the French parliament. Yeah Yep that's right no wonder yeah. Ah Okay. Top Stories Day. Wes is going to tell us. All about the DEM's. They released their impeachment inquiry transcripts. And this is what's GonNa take trump down right. Yes of course this is the smoking gun. We've all been waiting. Thank God I'm so glad to hear you say that because I've been waiting that's a load off of everybody's shoulders All right mark. Next up he's going to give us incarceration corner all things prisons. I've got quite a few stories for you guys. I'm in take nothing better than a good prison story. We can break out some baked beans sit around a campfire build a fee Rahman an baton. I'll take us through renews buffet of other headlines Going West. All right guys got an update on everyone's favorite topic no it's not brexit. It's impeachment and today the bloodthirsty dams released the first transcripts from their impeachment inquiry proceedings. And Boy Oh boy these are exciting and I think they got him this time. All right No no they don't So the big names in the first important deposition transcripts are former. US Ambassador to Ukraine. Marie Yovany Vich and top State Department official Michael McKinley who quit when POMPEII and others would not stand. Stand up against the firing of Yovani. VICH BOO HOO so so they released the the transcripts of the inquiry. What is that is that it's the it's when they were? They were questioning them. Okay yeah so the transcript of the of the deposition deposition right and it's just these two. They concentrated the news concentrated on Marie. Because she's just a battered woman. Apparently you all get to that. So of course Republicans in like that. Yeah ooh powdered woman. She's not not a bad woman so classic liberal elites not so of course. Republicans are Pistons. These particular transcripts transcripts seems to suggest that not only did trump fire former highly respected ambassador. IANOVICH ON FALSE PUBLIC SMEARS AKA. Because he wanted to and could but also that trump may have sought to create an irregular. An irregular backchannel with Zielinski The president of Ukraine by asking him to investigate the election and the Biden's so nothing nothing solid. That all sounds feasible. Yes it sounds. Fees have really can't have presidents haven't back channels with other presidents right. I mean we have back channels with each other on this show. You know what I mean like. Everyone's got backchannel. We should know everything. Yeah so I don't know maybe. The Demos released the transcripts of those who perhaps have a grudge against the president because he fired them. I mean I would do that. Our them This is tapping the Republicans asses as they saw this coming. And I've been asking for all the transcripts to be released for over a month and the dams have promised to release more soon. So we'll see what happens. What happened will nothing really impeachment worthy yet if he asked me? Here are the big shockers from the transcripts. I Ted Lieu said that it was said everybody should watch out that presence. Read these papers. Yeah well it's just it's is this is them saying something and everyone's saying different things so far so here's the big shockers from the transcripts. I Uganda which was told to watch her back. by Ukrainian official because Giuliani and his goons were looking to replace her possibly to do more business dealings in the Ukraine Ivanovich also told the dams that she felt threatened by trump all because he told Ukrainian presence Alinsky that quote. She's going to go through some things in reference to Ianovich which she said made her feel threatened in concerned In fact she's still threatened and concerned by that line according to her got to her. Yeah that one really really scares. Everybody said that they were GonNa go through some things she that trump said on the call. I I guess the first call that translates release that he told Zielinski that she's going to go through some things. Go through a tough time right exactly. It's not like I'm not. I'm I'm going to kill her but she's GonNa make your life a hell in the office. Things being not like things are humans. And we're going to go through one of them right to get you another one pretty sure. That's his official official management style. Your everyone goes through some things scary thing to tell someone you're going to go through some things. It's not the best thing to hear but it's yeah yeah it's way worse than you're GonNa have a great time. She shouldn't be. Let's get to the meat of it. All there's gotta be some honest there's really not much so she also said she was told to leave Ukraine after being relieved to propose to seek protection from being attacked by trump on twitter ono. I mean you get in the picture. Nothing here except drama drama drama. The list goes on. She was told he may sit a nasty tweet. Your way he will. Yeah I mean he certainly yeah. He's a big meany is basically. What the whole fucking thing is She was told my favorite thing is how big of a bully he is on social social media. And Milania thing is don't be able to social media. It's just the best thing so don't be so mean I know what you're you're doing is making up for it today. Just just just hold on until I'm not president anymore please. Onto what though the marriage I mean you've got So the she was told to post a pro trump tweet to protect her job before. I fired She pissed Juliana Juliani over of off over some visas. She asked report important. Get it she says that Hannity knows more than Pompeii on the White House. Officials looked to Hannity for information. Like what are you got. What do you got There was some that really surprising. No no it's not it's Weird Hannity. Shouldn't know as weird sure but it's not surprising given they share a lawyer. They're always to talk every night. That's where the pillow talk honestly between Donald Trump and Hannity. He literally every night he calls. Hannity's how did I do dad you could today and I don't know what Hannity says back to them like. Don't forget the country always. Just tell your best bud stuff. Yeah you tell your best bud stop I mean Hannity. He's got his hand in the news and might know some stuff that they don't so that's why you know some stuff about all of us So there was a show about it there was some bullying going on I mean I read all this shit. There was so far nothing suggests they have nearly enough to justify impeaching trump. It's ridiculous basically. The woman was treated fairly by the trump administration. They ousted her and she's now playing huge victim and telling everyone would Amini trump is. I mean it seems like both sides of made up their minds right like Republicans have decided this is is definitely not enough to impeach over and yet Democrats decided. Oh It's certainly enough to impeach over so like what's the point there. The dams are basically hiding behind the constitution. They're going hard against we. We vowed to uphold the constitution. No one's above the law. That's hard for the course for working in the trump administration. I mean whether a man or woman you get run over if you don't agree agree with them. It's just women. Get like a tinge of sexism within they'll go through some things. Yeah you're GonNa go through some things. We all hide behind the constitution was of course. It's what it's there for you So there's nothing of substance or proof as to whether or not he did in fact have some quid quip pro quo with his alinsky. As far as the store is the main story. Then yeah well you know this is the big story. They released the big. Nothing Burger transcripts a great bumper sticker today on a truck and it was the constitution making liberals crisis in seventeen seventy six. That's what it says That's a good one. If you see any great bumper stickers tweet US I love a good victor. What's that if you have any ideas for us to make a bumper sticker and it should be this? I was just thinking by Super Liberal. Like just stares the Second Amendment and just starts crying disaster hearing up. I doubt would not hope that. That's why I love her because bumper sticker though like crying guy over the second second amendment takes over the past game. I'm sure liberals are crying overs over the past. Kim Yeah so so. Hopefully the DEM's for the sake they have more than this coming out. But no smoking in gun. So far Go onto the Internet. Keat Hayes says this from the woman who used the State Department to spy on Americans. Okay maybe look into it and let us know Carlos Antonio Leon says at this rate trump would start executing those who didn't clap with strong enthusiasm. His Good Buddy Commie Kim Jong Du and K.. Type Career John. They put the there so we knew that they were talking about the Kim Jong North Korea. Not Young Kim. I'm John from Michigan March. Subpoena says just goes to show you how he wants everyone to praise him kisses orange but to save their jobs so innocent he he is not so like I said big nothing burger so far basically thinner dot com much going on. He's got a grudge. The prey not much going on at all. Oh He's meeting any and he likes you hop laments. Yep maybe a lot of new information here. We leave impeachment alone until something happened. I agree I agree. It was the greatest as far as it hits the top of the news cycle every day. So it's important to talk about because this is what the damn stink is extremely and this is developing developing porn stuff going on as people moving even the needle and predicted markets. Right now. That's that's right that's true all right we're gonNA talk about Movember now so barstools proud to be working with movember to raise funds and awareness for men's health and Though we hear it hard factor may not care about her own health as much as we should. 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Bro Grow Your Mustache and fundraise for your chance to win the Grand Prize like walking counter. Saving men's lives with different will wills soul patch makes his moustache so much more evil Yeah I feel like I have a totally different. Look if I take the soul. Patch off. Yeah I look like a big time molester right now a little bit well audible as we look a little creepy. So bad saves you for the molester rod so patches anti Molester little artsy you look like a guy who's going to rob a train but you haven't worked up the courage you've just been in first class of eating and drinking a couple of years. I look like you had any night. Now you're GonNa rob that train you head up a carnival bowl and you're rolling into a small town in Ohio and there's something not right about cheesy the card game all right guys. I have a new segment for you yesterday. We tried tried out the European Racist Corner and today I have another knock. Great place to go the incarceration my biggest fear on the planet is going to Horse Arabian corner not never spent a night in the drunk. I spent a night in jail not that drunk but jail. But you know how many people in jail don't think they'd ever be in jail all them Chevron and jobs. I never thought I'd be here right minus the murders arturs got it. Got A few tales of people losing their freedom or is it the opposite or is it both. You never know what you're GonNa get when you head over to the incarceration what's the opposite of losing your freedom gaining in your freedom. Alright Shit Story. Gaining your incarceration first story more than four hundred inmates across Oklahoma were released from from prison. Monday and what. The governor's office is calling the largest single-day mass commutation in the nation's history and all of the nation. So this is what I was talking about the opposite. Yeah you get it back gaining freedom. Tell me it was a good one. Yes leading with the fun one. It's get your freedom backstory guys. How that the move was pushed by Republican Governor Kevin Heavens stick and the Republican controlled legislature as part of the state's effort to reform its criminal? Justice system on Friday stood signed off on the com- commutation of five hundred twenty seven inmates sentences. Four hundred sixty two are released on Monday or most of them they might have some through Tuesday and then sixty five will be soon the inmates convicted of non-violent fences but I would still probably lock my doors and windows the next few weeks if you live within a short bus stop it is included in that violence breaking it. Yeah so do we doors so we know what. Yeah what these guys got charged for outside of not theft. We'd have we do because I'll tell you I'll get to a right now okay. I'll get the wheels started turning on this back in two thousand seventeen eighteen. When Oklahoma voters approved a state prop to change drug possession and low level property crimes which include breaking from felonies to misdemeanors estimators governor signed a bill into nineteen that retroactively adjusted sentences saying hey these people that got the felonies back then that would have gotten misdemeanors now and would have served out their times? Let's get them out. So they approved a fast-track computation. Docket for five hundred twenty seven inmates by the way Oklahoma has claimed the highest incarceration rate in the US for states and the US obviously has the highest incarceration Croatian rate of any country in the world by far so this is a good thing. Yeah I'm GonNa Serious Law Mrs. It's a good thing to the we'd crimes I wouldn't necessarily go breaking and entering bring down to a misdemeanor. Let's keep those I don't I don't think breaking and entering I think it's like vandalizing But I mean like maybe not like bringing Canaria Theft from a car. That's better stealing a pool toy making my car window name. The two reasons I went to jail. Yeah exactly yeah. So you're the second story as a take your freedoms away story Saudi. But it's the news. I couldn't stay cheery for too long Charlotte Michigan Woman Melinda Sanders. There's Jones checked out two books from local library in two thousand seventeen and didn't return them for two years and now there's a warrant for her arrest. Well shame. Yeah a slow reader. You play the game slow reader the consequences. Apparently she was told in person at the books relate when she was not allowed if he wants to go to use the printer at the Charlotte Mary Library. They're like no no. She frequent the library. She sure does and she tried to print something out and they're like you not only can not print stuff out but you know you haven't returned your books or two years. So she said fine. She went home and located the books on our son's bookshelf and return them. And she figured you know I'm GonNa get a late fee notice or lo and behold you know she's like I'm done with it but then a couple of weeks later. Her boss notified her that she would not be getting the promotion. She was aligned for because a background check return that she had an open arrest warrant for failure to return rental property which Charlotte first of all. Why is she going through a background? Check within our own company. Here's the situation shady. Melinda abuses the printer. That's what I can tell you. She's at the fucking Ghinwa. She's always like what the printer the printers broken can change the plan. These these library people had a big axed. Oh my God. Yeah no they did in fact we'll charlotte community libraries director of Financial Services Marlena. Arosh says she's not allowed to discuss exactly individual counts but added there's a lot of information that Sanders Anders is not providing and that the protocol library is like they send at least five different warnings of like emails. Phone calls letters before they do anything for late. Rentals and the only prosecute repeat offenders. She's saying this lady does this all the time And this just these two bucks this time but we've sent her vitual line so this is where the story at. I got very funny for me and then turned very bad. Santa says that she never received the late notices because she was frequently switching addresses to which I started laughing acts. I'm like oh it's she's like me and my early twenty S. She's kind of loser. She's kind of poor. She can't keep all but now it turns out is because of a very abusive relationship that letter to change her phone number and even end up in a shelter for domestic abuse victims. So not quite as funny as I. I thought funny and so it's been a rough decade for Sanders Jones. Maybe give her pass on the public library books. She's been showering collaborates. Okay if she wants to use the fucking printer. Life taker library letter used the printer. What did you take your library card? And maybe give her the promotion if she's due for. Don't use this bullshit. Excuse can you imagine not getting a promotion for not fucking retain terrible. That's how that's how that's how mass shooting for a third story. Lastly really someone in Maryland certainly is going to jail and the Oxen Hill area. In what Prince George's county. Yes area for stabbing death. At Popeye's Papa's location Monday evening after getting in an altercation over the recently returned Popeye's chicken sandwich. Thanks for sending us that tip 'em Gallagher on twitter and this doesn't surprise me at all because I was on Sunday and I waited waited forty five minutes and I was just expecting stayed for forty five minutes to that. You didn't. After I ordered the chicken sandwich online I still do it. Forty five hundred on my mark. You did not have to stay there at all. Well after order online eight six bucks. There's twenty four dollars. We ordered like a meal for my wife and I and like subsides and Shit. Yeah I already drove all the way there was a twenty minute drive. I'M NOT GONNA just turn around so when I got there I was forty. Five people were walking in the cars. Were around the corner and and the people that Guide and after we were waiting like an hour and a half and everyone in the restaurant wanted to just fight everyone. The people behind the counter crews stabbed any videos videos burstow was posted on all day all over the country behind the counter after infra. forty-five minutes like grandma cups and the cashier looked at me and he almost grabbed me by the neck and threw me over over the counter. Because I was like hey man I'm just getting my cups from ordering don't touch the kids fucking chicken sandwich without the love of Christ is not that good at what you want a good chicken sandwich. Go go where the sandwiches made with the love of. Christ it's going to be the best fucking chicken sandwich. I don't agree with their policies. Hot Take I don't know absolutely better for flavor. The Popeye's is a better value. Cheaper not definitely bigger big mark put down payment on a fucking apartment and trying to get drinks it got desert. Didn't you know speaking of state prisons. We've got some state. Election markets being settled on Tuesday. Today's folks that's right. It's it's a voting Tuesday so we can make some money really quick on predicted. I up the state of Virginia. Basically everybody is hammering the DIS to take the house and the Senate if you want to to fade that you can get the ours to retain the Senate seven cents in the House at twelve cents so so check those again. Basically all the predicted money is on the DS to take over the state so it seems like it's likely to happen but if you feel like ours are going to Hold a surprise surprise showing in Virginia. Go with that because the value is there for sure and then next up. Let's see what we got. We have Wha what will the margin of victory in the two thousand nineteen Mississippi Gubernatorial election again. That's closing on Tuesday today. Seven percent plus is running away at thirty thirty six cents. As of the time of taping member to check the markets. They change fast But again I like I like no at seven percent and plus well no. It's not it's bands right so like Pat said gopher a lower percentage because w percent is not with the polling is showing right knowing has joined the closer okay but no-one no-one for seventy you can say market's GonNa win. You can bet sixty four sense that the seven percent is seven percent plus. It's no good as a great point. You I know on the predicted market you know and just pick any other band wins for you. There's no actually in the nose on those band. Ones are great. There's you're no fucking way. There's no way whoever wins the gubernatorial is GonNa win plus seven because you have a third candidate they're accurate and sometimes it's easy no right and so what's interesting is that's happening in both the Kentucky Ah race which closes on Tuesday and then also the twenty nineteen Louisiana runoff which is on November sixteenth. They're all pretty much in the same situation. Relation Republicans are predicted to blow the Democrats out of the water. So right now if you think that they're not going to get blown out of the water or do you think they might win outright. The three Governor Governor Governor Races in Mississippi Kentucky and Louisiana are worth taking a look at if you think the D.'s are going to put up a fight there so either way. If you think you know what's going to happen go to predict it dot dot org slash promo slash hard factor. Twenty two twenty bucks matched on us. Remember predicted is free or not free. It's legal in all fifty states getting your your money in and out Can Happen Super Fast and we all love playing it. It makes the news a lot more fun when you're gambling on it so get in on the markets with us and you can send US markets. I'm I'm thinking right now out loud. We could probably get predicted to put up a when Popeye's completely eliminate the chicken sandwich again. It's gray market strong market. Let's stick to the new I twenty twenty buffet daily new baby our guys about a week. Yeah no a week ago. Governor of California Gavin newsom called Donald Trump California's partner in battling wildfires saying quote ever request. We've made of the trump administration nation has been granted and I just want to thank them again for moving expeditiously as they have to support our efforts. Here a chain fire yeah newsom. Some must've been feeling pretty good. That wasn't till tramp trump or an pro-trump ran out of things to bully on Sunday and unfortunately California was still on fire so he went for him Hey Hey look listen before you get nasty about trump. Everyone comes down from a heater weekend. He had a great weekend he did have a strong weekend but for that Pity but that does that. mean he needs to bully the state of California you well after a tough after an awesome weekend don't usually have. Yeah he's also Gavin Gavin. newsom awesome likes this attention. Like like trump and Gavin. newsom is to to Cox men in the ring once more handsome than the others by the way. Talk News Way Lighter Nice Looking Guy Way more in shape look what you're saying that if the if they go back and forth that newsome likes the attention that will draw. They can't support yeah he he's bringing it on. Well that's one that's one take. I'll tell you what I would. I wouldn't like well if if I was the governor California and the president said the governor of California at Gavin Newsom has done a terrible job of force that the direction onto comment on newsome's seeking aid from the White House to help combat forest fire saying no more Then trump tweeted in regard the federal funding either. No more than get your act together governor. You don't see close to the level of this burn and other states did not say other time on on attacking Florida or Louisiana for like having too many hurt or Hawaii for being island. You don't see as many hurricanes McCain's shut up motherfucker surrounded by water. Yeah newsom as much snow in Alaska. Uh newsome was not happy. He retorted that since trump does not believe in climate change. She could excuse himself from the conversation. Camera Harris Kamala jumped in here. Ah saying quote. Raking leaves is as effective at combating. The climate crisis as your phone spell check is fixing your tweets to Donald Dir burn. Burn a quick side note guys. The government owns about fifty seven percent of California's forest land. So essentially it's just they're they're they're screwed burning as other states. Yeah come on this from California but she probably followed that tweet up with next. Yeah then watchers. He's not gonNA they all. They all need to work together. Everybody needs whether you're leaving whether you believe in climate change or not. Everybody needs to work together to make sure the California stops fucking burning so much the on fire. What trump is doing is not productive? What's okay but like I'm telling you that this dude newsom loves loves this little fucking battle until I'm telling you and bring attention newsom hard to say it seems he's he's relishing the back and forth so I've won? Donate some money to California often. Yes yes donate donate for them putting it out and also hope that they can work together and stop just bitching at one another. You're something out that actually works right keeping it in California. Here's a story that will just boil your fucking blood because it's so stupid. Authorities in California including the Kern County Sheriff's Office the California afforded department of fish and wildlife and the FBI seized cannabis from California fields that they deem to be illegally producing cannabis in place of hemp. So there's boosts be legally growing up but the FBI and their cronies claim it's Canada and California who cares right because it's legal recreational anyways. How much are we talking about? How much you guys think? Well let's how much we'd was seized. The dollar value ten million dollars worth twelve forty million under allers. One billion dollars of of cannabis allegedly cannabis worth over four hundred fifty nine acres of the plants immediately apocalypse ghost hostesses screaming all over the barren fields of the chop down plants remember dance moves by the way Rip Pakalitha. This is a bad scene. The only difference between cannabis in hampers the THC level in these jackasses at the FBI didn't investigation. That led them to believe that these were cannabis plants and not hemp since they're THC Ahe was quote well above the legal threshold of zero point three percent. Of course say how much is probably like one fucking wish. I wish they had Texas instruments because Texas can't figure it it's true it's great in Texas by the way they can't test the hemp. It's all it's all house cocaine is white powder. Snow skies is thanks. Guys are doing great work. The state is on fucking fire. Bullets sure let's just chop down. The fields were cannabis's legal anyways as an UN fucking believable waste of government resources. Like I mean what is the fear like. Oh no they're going to make some fifty fifty teach. CCD Gumy's and and then they're gonNA make some hemp rope out of. We better stop at Boston. Really in California will. This has to be a reaction to something whenever this happens like whenever the federal government cracks down on on on state. Marijuana is reaction to something. I'll tell you good for his the cartel that can cut through wall and six seconds with assault from Lowe's and bring there's much leaders they want in a California maybe total if this is part of the little tiff between Newsroom and trump. They both needed knock at the center. This this is outraged mess with a man's marijuana guys on Saturday. A group of under educated white nationalist basement dwellers thought it a good idea film promotional video at the memorial of Emmett till in Mississippi Mississippi progress. One of the biggest in the video can be heard saying at the memorial that it represents the civil rights movement for blacks But what we WANNA know is where are the civil rights for all the white people. Oh God where's our jobs. The sister fuckers eventually scattered once they heard the sound of security alarms most likely because they thought it was black robot police coming to castrate them soon. Ilan the incident has led to over ten thousand dollars being donated to the immemorial. So there you go. Yeah on the headline on the surface that headlines like the most offensive thing you can possibly Emmett till Emmett till is a African American and boy in the nineteen fifties who was lynched for swimming in a pool away. Okay to kill it and they went to go protest that his his memorial. He's the only thing like ah you'd have to be like I. I can't think of anything more offensive than that headline right. They're pretty bad. Very bad. You guys are full of fun on the news before he was you dude. Chill was Used of offending white woman in her family's grocery store not not not not always the obvious thing it was lynch. Yeah he and he's a he's a pillar of the civil rights movement he can. Okay finally another really fun. One a fifty five year old Austrian policeman has been arrested for slamming into a traffic stop being performed by other policemen when he was drunk and off-duty well. This is funny. This is good. This is all although well all three Austrian police are okay. They're just fine Having a couple of laughs the couple in the car being pulled over were injured in the incident so not great for the couple. aww Right yes yeah just just run over citizens when the Austrian journalists asked if the cop was over the legal limit on his breathalyzer tests the Austrian police said and my Austrian is not the

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How To Decide To Have a Baby

How To! With Charles Duhigg

29:38 min | 1 year ago

How To Decide To Have a Baby

"We have a big favourite. Ask One of our advertisers is conducting a survey and we'd be so grateful for your help with answering a few of the questions it takes less than ten minutes of your time and your participation really helps the show go to sleep study dot com to complete the short survey. Thanks so much. I think what we're both struggling with. Here honestly is that we don't really have language for actually telling the truth to have clarity and certainty about becoming apparent you know I I I think most people don't frankly know and even even me saying that out loud to you right now. I'm like but but but I love that I love to help you. You're wonderful. Oh you're welcome to how to I'm Charles. Each week. We talked to listeners who are trying to figure about how to solve one of life's problems and then we do some research and we tracked down an expert and we get their advice and usually the way that we learn about a problem is did they send us an e mail and how to its sleek dot com and in fact. That's how we heard from this. Week's listener who had emailed US actually from halfway across the world with what is it is it is. Is it crazy early in the morning in Australia right now. I'm at the office seven thirty. which is you know this is Megan? She's a lawyer in Melbourne. She's she's thirty five years old married with no kids which is actually why she's talking with me on skype today so I reached out to you really with a question of how one one makes an irrevocable decision because my husband and I are now looking at having kids this definitely going back with you. Decide to go down eh off. How long have you and your husband would married. We've been married what four and a half years use now okay and we've been trying for for a significant amount of time and and that that hasn't naturally so a a way looking down the barrel of potential some fairly invasive treatments and a lot of money vast soon so now that it hasn't happened unnaturally now that you're at this place where you have to you have to make a proactive choice. How is your feelings about it changed. The lack of love. I suppose real hunger almost had me second-guessed thing where the it's actually the right decision. I guess just thinking thinking maybe we could have a wonderful life without being parents and ease that really what we want deciding whether to have a baby. It's obviously one of the biggest choices anyone makes but we found someone to help them. She's someone who's thought deeply about this and is confronted herself. I'm Cheryl Cheryl strayed the author of wild tiny beautiful things and a couple of other books and also the CO host of the Turkish podcasts. I loved the assurance saw Saum actually quietly dealing silently thought right now well in that case. We'll hear more from Cheryl after this quick break. If you know who cheryl straight is it's probably because you read her two thousand twelve bestselling memoir wild or you saw the big big Hollywood movie that it was made into starring Reese Witherspoon but if all those things I did were the things that got me here. I was never redeemed would if I already was but before all of that she used to write this wonderful advice column. Yeah I'd rather have ice combat. The rump is called dear sugar. One of our most popular columns was titled the Ghost ship that didn't carry us and it was about how Cheryl had made this choice one of the hardest choices in her own life. You write about how you I thought about having kids and it wasn't it wasn't something like it was. It was a clear answer for you. Well you know basically I loved my life and around loved my independence and my freedom and my ability to you know just kind of have the more carefree life that you get to have when you're you're not responsible for survival and wellbeing of another human being as you are when you're a parent and I was in my husband felt the same way. My husband is a documentary filmmaker. I'm a writer I wasn't ever one of those people who felt like you know I will be completed by motherhood and on the other hand I love those profound human experiences and there's no question that by all accounts having a child is a big experience and I didn't want to miss out on it and so my husband and I went round and round. We'll let me ask you about 'cause you. You talk about in the column you talk. How about this idea of this sistership. We kind of stand on one ship based on the decisions. You've made in your life and you see the other ship that other choices you could have made you see it sail away. What did you mean by that what I mean. I think that you know we all make big choices in life that that takes us away from the other choice and what I love about this this notion of the sister life. Is You know I think that a lot of times when when we do have big decisions to make like well. Should I go to law school or become a veterinarian or should I marry this person or or not or should I advocate advocate or not. You know those big decisions. They you know they do define. The paths that that we take but but that doesn't mean that the life we would have had if we'd made that other choice doesn't have meaning and value yeah. I want to ask you more about how to help this person make this decision because I I think that she is looking at the two ships right. She's trying to figure out which ship she wants to board in which when she lets sail away because it is it is a loss each contains a loss because you know becoming a mother or father it is true. You are forever ever bound. You are forever tethered to another human being so you lose some freedom and independence and a lot of money and various other things right up it. It is also a loss if you decide not to have kids because all of the things that you would have gained in and received and so yet to me the idea of the sister life is holding that both things are true both ships contain loss gain both tips contain beauty and sorrow and oh you know all all of the many different things that we get asked. Megan our our listeners Australia if that made sense to her this idea that she's deciding fighting between two lives two ships on different paths and if part of what she's struggling with is trying to figure out not only which life she wants but which one she's willing to give up and how shall deal with the regret that comes regardless of which choice she makes yet that is exactly surfing the more. I've been thinking about this since I I wrote you and with my husband about it and I think I've been approaching Mrs. It's witchcraft will late me free of regret you know what I've been thinking about the past week or so has been with our made to refrain that little bit trying to assess what level of regret I'd be living to the best can work out what I what I feel united ten twenty in the future and it's hard because we don't know who are going to be ten or twenty years in the future. It's actually and I actually asked s Cheryl about this because I think one of the things that happens is that when we have these conversations with ourselves or their husbands we have this instinct stink kind of almost shy away from the possibility of regret right to to either pretend like regret can exist or to say oh no. I shouldn't make decisions based out of regret I just I completely completely reject that idea. That regret doesn't exist I just I think that that's an aphorism gone wrong. You know or something I i. The function of regret is a really the important one in our lives because very often it will help us make the right decision and so what I say instead of saying like. Does it sound really fun to you to spend hours respond hours with a two year old. That is not the question to ask. When asking should it become apparent. The question to ask is really from that longer view in twenty years. When you look back upon your life will you wish that you'd made that leap and taken that that chance and made that big commitment and sacrifice vice you know by becoming apparent. I think that if she feels really that lingering sense that she might I think she should listen pretty hard to that. What do you think about that yeah. I think that definitely speaks troubling to me and I think that's hot of what I'm struggling. It is trying to assess you know what I will lock in the future based on so much of what is a noble ooh about becoming apparent and in the fleet Saudis if I am ambivalent habit remain that way is that equity environment to bring in kids into. Maybe it'll be ambivalent after having the kids right like there's there's no guarantee that two years in you say like. Oh my gosh. I'm glad I made this decision and in that I've you know I didn't know people who've sort of said you know if I had my time again. I'm not sure I would have made this made this decision it up with you know yeah. Obviously I love my kid. What have you thought you know they reached regret today. Ghost ship. Megan told me that part of what Harvard is that among her family no one has ever questioned. Having kids make sense right. Her parents always assumed assume she was going to become a mother and her siblings most of whom are married and have kids of their own. They never had doubts like this. Everyone else was so session. Klatt parenthood was very important to convey. Oh I married young started. Try Kids almost immediately like it's just that Clara around here that I have an idea and match your has has made me feel like you know am i. Am I missing something. Many many many families have these ideas about you know motherhood or fatherhood. Being you know the thing you're expected to do the thing that you should do the only only thing that can possibly be fulfilling and you know we hear these these really bizarre ideas about people who choose not to become parents being selfish which I've never understood good what selfish what's selfish about not just decided not to bear a child or or father or mother child. I don't I don't get it but in in any case like she really wants to make this decision because she and her partner decide it's the right thing for their lives not because their parents expect to shirl has a tip for how to clarify your thinking thinking on uncomplicated issues like motherhood what she says is you should take all those thoughts swirling inside your head in write them down most stiffest get off bewildered and confused because for intelligent beings frankly and we have all of these cross currents of thoughts desires and wishes and fears and anxieties and all of that stuff and this is why we get tangled up sometimes. They're all in our head really Meghan. Get outta piece of paper a big piece of faith for and just this make lists of in every direction you know let those doubts be fully expressed. Let those desires be fully expressed right your list from the vantage point point of now and twenty years from now think about what it is you would do if you listen to that doubt and didn't have kids think about what you're willing to go through to help them like that's a really complicated question and I think that it's what makes you feel most at peace when you make those lists at the end of all of that writing and reflecting electing you know what do you feel like literally in your body makes you feel calm. When you look at each of those scenarios what would you. What would you say to that yea? That's something big trying to in my head but I I I think the idea of physically rotting down and sitting with US percent trying to feel that physicality is ease interesting understand united imagining going home and getting butcher's paper. 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Dear undecided. There's a poem I love by Thomas. Transformer called the Blue House. I think of it every time I consider questions such as yours about the irrevocable choices we make the the poem is narrated by a man who standing in the woods near his house when he looks at his house from this vantage point. He observes that it's as if he's just died and he he's now seeing the house from a new angle every life transgender rights has a sister ship one that follows quite another route than the one. We ended up taking aching. We wanted to be otherwise but it cannot be the people we might have been live a different phantom life than the people we are and so the question snus. Who Do you intend to be for Cheryl. She and her husband eventually decided to be parents. You know we we decided to just do it like we got pregnant and alter my pregnancy. I felt like I was like the world's worst pregnant lady because you know people would be like you know. I got an ultrasound. I heard the heartbeat and I burst into tears and I was like wow I found. It's scientifically interesting that I had human groin going inside of me but I was thinking like I really hope this works out. I really hope that I love this baby because you know this is probably probably going to be you know. It's it's going to be a big sacrifice. Yeah You keep the baby whether you love it or I know. We were like. We sure our hope. We like this little fella and you know what happened is dead a lot a lot a lot a lot like. I I was you you know the the main emotion I felt in the first week of my son's life was was honestly this just this deep profound gratitude that I had fallen on the side of the fence that was yes because I realized well you know it is true that it's an enormous sacrifice in fact way more enormous than I could imagine before I became a mom but what also is true that big love way more than I could have imagined but there is another. There's another situation which is actually Kinda more my situation right which is very much like Accu- When my wife and I were trying to decide whether to have kids we were on the fence and we came down on the same side you did which is to to have children and and let me preface this by saying. I Love my children. I love having children but I also honestly think I would be just as happy without children like I I look look at the other ship and in it's not a ship that sailed off to the horizon where I can't. I can't imagine not having these kids in my life the way that you describe in that I think my wife if we describe our children it's actually kind of a little bit of a different experience. Which is I love them and I'm so glad we had them but the sistership is actually like it's it's right across the bay like I I could be on that ship and I think he's just as happy as on this ship but I'm curious about what you're you're saying because I I on one hand. I know what you mean. I mean I I share that feeling that you have as much as I say I you. You know I feel so grateful that I decided to become a mother and that is true. it doesn't mean that. I don't think that I would have a happy fulfilled life without them. I just think wow what the gifts that they the gifts that are that ended up being on this mothership. If you will it seemed to me greater for me in my life than what I would have found you know if I hadn't had them and what I'm curious about with you is are they really the same to you. Are they really equal to you. I don't know I think it's a really hard question and honestly it actually does cosmi not a little bit of turmoil because I I think you're right. I think on one hand I am so glad we had children because because I think it it makes me less selfish person. That makes me a better person. I love how I love spending time with my kids in general but I actually don't love spending time the same way my wife does to be on and I see the other ship and I think actually there is important work that I probably probably would have done that. I won't have kids so you feel in some ways like like you've squandered a certain aspect of yourself during these years of your prime that you might not have if you'd yeah and certainly I have also gained something right but it's but I feel like so many times and I think this actually gets to our caller so many times. When we talk doc about parenthood we talk about it in almost binary way where it's a tough decision and then you make it and then everyone's glad that they had kids and at least in my experience is actually not like that yeah? No I think I think what we're both struggling with here. Honestly is that we we don't really have language for actually telling the truth about things like parenting. It's not always convenient wien int- or fun to be essentially hamstrung by your obligations to a child or children in in every way financially time the energy commitment. You know all of those things. I think that this is why so often parents do feel that that sense of isolation and in despair I know that I I remember especially in the intensity of my kids. early years. I had two kids seventeen and a half months apart so I had two babies the two toddlers and you know I wrote wild in a state of basically fear and despair because I I really thought you know how how will I ever do this because his I hadn't even slept through the night for more than two years and I love them the on measure and they are genuinely like the best things I've ever done. I say that without question but man I miss spending Sunday's just reading the New York Times while lounging on the couch. It's true back. I never got that back. I really miss it. I really miss it. Sometimes I think maybe I should put that like more prominently on that list when I was thinking there when we're old and decrepit and our children won't call us on Sunday. We're going to be able to read the paper exactly mm-hmm. We should acknowledge something. We haven't talked about in this conversation so far. which is that part of making? This decision is a practical question right y. Y When my wife had our children and we became parents together it had a huge impact on her career but much more so than mine if Megan it gets pregnant and has a maybe it's going to impact her life and her career a lot to yet certainly Clayton to the calculus. I suppose it is much harder. my husband is one hundred percent on board to be as a close crows possible battle so there is a biological fact that on the one hand to stay on fieldstone one who still feed the kids. I love possible if you're breastfeeding and that sort of thing and culturally they're just there are many more impact on women than there are men. There's no question that you know for almost every professional woman I know myself included that that having children has you know impacted our careers but it's also when you really look at it just to an era of your life is just a short time when you take the longer view I mean all of my best writing happened while two little babies were sleeping in the next road. You know and I and you know there's something about out that like that. I can say yeah you know. It was hard but I did it. In some ways. It clarified my ambitions because I was like this is harder than it ever was before I really he did talk about regret I think what did I do all those years before I had them like I you know I should have written ten books and in you know so. It clarified my my purpose. That's really interesting so let me take a step back because I think the biggest thing that Megan is asking and assignments for an outright. She's GonNa go right the lists. She's GonNa think about what is actually meaningful to her. She's going to sort of think about where the journey on each ship would take her but she says that that she has been thinking about this and she's been going circles and I'm sure this is going to help but she says like what she really needs is. She needs some way of framing the question or the decision making that helps her and her husband break out of `thus like circular endless conversation that they keep having and so I if if she was sitting in front of you and you could only sort of tell her one thing about how to think about this differently that that gives her the freedom to to see it in a new way. What would you tell her. I would say relinquish the notion that you feel certainty when you make this decision most of the time especially with something as is that is as complicated and fraught as becoming a parent or or or decided not to be one you just have to the end of the day say this this feels to me like the truest thing not the only truth but at the end of the day the truest thing it it it's risky. It's scary requires. Frankly a lot of courage on on your part Meghan but I I know that you can do it. An almost I always when we do that when we get to the place where we trust the truce thing what's revealed a really all of the things that we couldn't possibly put on those those lists because we don't know them yet and that is the beauty of boarding chef and venturing into the unknown because of course you can imagine the landscapes capes. You'll see in the things you'll feel but there's nothing like being there in real life and whatever you do whichever choice you make that ship will take you someplace beautiful aw. I know it. What do you think of that yeah. That was beautiful. I'm thinking crying at my the office Dansk so hopefully no one walks past in Thomson Yeah. I think I think he's absolutely lutely rise. It does take a lot of suppose courage. That spoke very very truly to me but it's hard hard to be that courageous all the time right be- being courageous is exhausting precisely at that you know that's certainly what I'm grappling with. Where do you think you are on that fence right now. Look I I. I feel like at the moment I'm probably slightly more on the kids saw defense than the other side on much more of mystic about being able to reach a decision that will feel bright will thank you so much for taking the time to visit with US thank you. This is yeah they feign so hopeful and now move on is in the army reserves. He's he's actually off. in our strengths gay fields doing like some search to rescue training right now so he's literally like sleeping in the snow one and so. I'm going to hang up from you and start texting and freaking the sheriff strides has spoken to defy costs and that's I really very special a quick update a few weeks after we talked Megan sent us boost voicemail hi Charles and everyone you update on how on on thinking in my husband thinking about the the whole question of kids in it all of that so yeah we had a lot of really good heart hot hot discussions a few years but we're GONNA go for it. we actually had our first appointment with the doctor just this week yeah where at least starting the baby steps to to make that happen so that's that's. That's where we are I'll keep you updated. I suppose thanks Megan. We wish you and your husband all the luck in the world. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us and thanks to Sharyl tread for her heartfelt advice in beautiful beautiful writing make sure to look for Cheryl's Charles books including her latest one brave enough in one more quick note before we sign off just in case my children ever do listen to this podcast. I love you guys so much and having you with the best choice I ever ever made. Do you have a problem that needs solving wherever you are in the world you can send us a noted how to its DOT COM and and we might be able to help how to's executive producer is Derek John Mayer. Jacob is our engineer. Our theme music is by Hannah's Brown June. Thomas is the senior managing producer of slate podcasts and Gabriel. Roth is slates editorial director for audio special. Thanks to Oshawa Saluda. I'm Charles Duhig and you can find me on twitter at C. A. Duhig. Thanks so much for listening.

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Our Big Debut with Kobe Bryant

Ledlow & Parker

53:12 min | 11 months ago

Our Big Debut with Kobe Bryant

"Candace Parker is with US tonight at all the Toco flory Christa. Thank you very much edlow on campus and this is let low and this is the first ever lead low and Parker. I'm Kristen Ludlow blow and I'm candace Parker can you believe for here. No we're sitting boys cares what's happening. The lights are on the microphones are up and I get a chance chance to to be on the road all season long covering some of the biggest games with TNT. And you're now not only doing that with us but still playing the WNBA as well. Yes in in the off season I enjoy stepping behind the MIC and going in depth in the NBA. I'm learned a lot from the sidelines and have really enjoyed covering it. I'm so excited. We get the chance to do this together. Gather when they approached us about this project knew we wanted it to be a space where some of those conversations were having even sitting in the makeup chair alongside some of the greatest in the game name. Now they can come in. Here on these microphones and have those conversations with us. We'll definitely I think it's about going indepth more than just Stats it's about out telling stories and getting to know people and individuals and what makes them great which is why our first guest was perfect one when we thought about who we wanted to launched this show with we thought okay. So there's some pros and cons here. The pro is that it will not get any better than this. The CON is that it will not get any better than this. Our first guest this Kobe Bryant for the final time number four Colby Bryant if we were to list our first guest resume in detail detail. It would take all of the time that we've been allotted to actually talk to him so Kobe Bryant. Everybody Koby thank you so much for taking the time. Ma Ma you guys. We're good. We're trying to figure out though how to turn our very first media project together into an Oscar win and we figured you would be the guy that's perfect. We were like. Just ask him how to give US advice on how to turn this into something successful funny. You have though founded now granite studios. You guys are producing books podcasts. TV and film. What inspired you to want to go this direction after basketball well I always loved the idea of storytelling but I think having children home wanting to create something that they could read and be inspired by you know aside from like. Did you know the classics you know. Cinderella sleeping beauty's and things like that like we all. We love those students but also wanted to create stories for them where they felt. Like you know you don't just fall asleep and wake up and be successful. You know wanted to create something where they understood the value of hard work and the power of emotion and how that could be magical in sports and how to sports connect to life and this that and the other so Oh Gosh wife started creating some stories and decided to found grinding grain studio. Well why you're a player You did a lot of things. Obviously with your mindset There are a number of times after games where you were shooting thousands and thousands of shots. Because maybe you missed a game winner. were or things like that. How does that translate into you now? Coaching as well as developing this. Mamba mentality at your mom sports academy well. You know the the hardest part about the coaching and developing the Sports Academy is having to go back to the beginning and like thanks through The process of how to improve as a player And then understand that the connectivity between improving as a player and growing as a person because it's very important the coach to be able to make those connections for for not just from my daughter before or teammates and so going back and saying all right we have a lot of time. Can't throw everything these kids that once. I'm just go teach them incrementally this month you've worked on next month. He worked on this for the whole year. This is our goal and then you just develop them over a period of time so bats what I've had to do. Just go back to when I was ten eleven years old. We've all learned because both candidates have been ten or eleven year. Old Girls was playing basketball but neither of US have ever been ten or eleven year. Old Girls playing basketball for Kobe Bryant. That's a little bit different right. Mommy look like generation really like they don't know you know what I mean like. They they know of my name and so forth and so on but they were too young to ever really see me who you know what I mean. So it's not like like you know it was a big deal when we first started because you know their parents you know grew up with me and watching and so forth and so on but like convince kids like they don't they don't know you know it's just You know I used to be great pain basketball now. I'm their coach. You know it's interesting interesting because A while ago you posted an instagram photo of your daughter's team and behind it it was a scoreboard of them. Basically kicking the other teams but in in the caption you talked about how the previous year they had lost to that team badly and just I know I have a daughter growing up in as women women I think. Sometimes we're taught to not be a little bit not brag a little bit of the accomplishments that we have what. What was your purpose in posting? That well you know the understanding of the commitment to hard work that they've had over years time you know it's like you know the they work so hard every single day. They're they are really competitive and they wanted to get better and so like there were other teams that not just by the teams that we played beat us by like forty points a year prior You know that we now be on a regular basis and it's just more so An appreciation all the hard work that they put in and kind of celebrate them and the jury they've been on for the past year you've also targeted some of your storytelling to that demographic. I know you have a new book being released on November Twelfth Epica the tree of e cross and you have season two of your puny podcast as well so for our audience who may not be familiar with those projects the X. What inspired them. What can they expect? Yeah so we're we've We have three novels to that are out now The first one being being the whizzing art series which is a basketball fantasy novel and the second one being legacy and the Queen which is a tennis fantasy novel and a third one coming on November twelfth. which is called applicant entry of equal which is A track and field Fantasy novel and what we're trying to do is educate kids on Self awareness really and the emotional magic that exists within our stories. Like what does it mean. It's still anxious still nervous before a game. And then how does that manifest itself throughout the course of the game and then how can you better control that fear here and and pressure situations So those are some of the lessons. We try to teach to our neighbors and then with the puny periods are just a fun show I. It's just a group. The kid that just enjoys playing They compete with a different sport. Every single episode and the bantering that exists between them and their rival gang. Oki's it is is it's funny. It's funny it's a good show. Are these stories that you already had in your mind at some point while you were playing or are they things that have been somehow conceive during the daily life of not having to play basketball anymore. No so like the first novel. What's that we released here Or stories that I've been working on since my last year playing so the one that's coming on November twelfth. I've been working on that story for three years. I'm out and about four years actually and then the wizards series probably about two and a half to three years and legacy about the same so I was doing quite a bit of writing. An outline of the studio of the world of all of the magic Do My last year plan. That's amazing Obviously one of the reasons is why we wanted to have you as our. I guess you are Coby Bryan. Obviously but that was the main the main reason there were other reasons though. Secondly we wanted this podcast to be about more than just basketball. We wanted to be about culture about just outside of the game and so we would love to know now that you're retired playing doing. What is your day to day? Life look like right now. Yeah so it's It's pretty consistent and I love it like I get up at four four thirty in the morning. Wait wait hold on I on this for you. Nobody is requiring. Can you to be up at four in the morning and you're choosing to be up at four in the morning I mean here's the thing so like when I retired put on quite a bit of weight and it was fun and I enjoyed every minute of it but then it was like all right. I gotta get back in shape. I got kids to chase around and things like that like I gotta be that that you know what I mean in Carpool. That looks like I swallowed. Yeah so it's time for me to get up to get. That working is like five in the morning six in the morning so I get early. I go to the gym. I do my work. And then a Take G G to school and then I come to the office and you know I right at it. You know we build and And then from there it's pick up time and Home spend time with my babies Capri and bb and then his basketball practice and then Depending on the night date night for me and Vanessa go or it's home and chat with the family dinner so that that's what the day looks like. You're not only coaching your girls. You're still investing in this generation of NBA a players with the Mamba Sports Academy. We didn't know anything about it until after it had already happened. I want to know why you thought it was valuable to do that. and well how it went and who stood out. Well it's a you know it's always fun To give back you know like I had a lot of mentors that admits me throughout my Throughout my career you know Michael Being WanNa But there were several others that really took me under their wing and show you the ropes. It's so important for me to pass that along and so to do this invitation was Was Fun we had a great time doing it. You guys came and you know we work. We went over things. You you know in In in specific detail and We look forward to doing. Some more. Candidates has told me that. Perhaps there's something in the works with the women of the game. Yeah no we're. We're definitely doing that. We're just trying to work out exactly how to go about doing it but I am more passionate about the women's game. About the mitigate candice dancing right now say it again so she can keep this up. Primary Primary Focus is the women's game we feel like You know the men's game has enough attention as it is and the women's game it's such beautiful game. There's so many talented young players coming out. That's important to get them out there to help them. Learn the game more to publicize the game more So our primary mission mission is the women's Day you know it's interesting the NBA used at different models to grow the game of basketball. Obviously now on the age of social media we're able to fall in love with players stories and get to know them. What would be your advice in doing that? Same thing with the women's to growing the WMBA and making taking it be in every household. Well I think if you look at storytelling is a whole as it relates to To athletes you know storytelling now has become More of Where did you grow up? You know what was your upbringing What were some of the versity that you had to face and that's all fine and And good but I think we need to do is make the stories more funny more engaging and that's where I think the women's game should be picked up that you go back to the days where the NBA was getting ready to take off. What did you had you had here? Jordan George the ICEMAN Gurgling had Moses Malone and posing using a poster as if he's Moses. There's a lot of fun hero marketing. Things that can be done. That would love to see happen in the women's game because then as elemental in a fun element of entertainment while also understanding the style of play that particular player that you may gravitate to go round mound. Rebound you know Bajic jobs. There are certain elements to the game to make it more fun and make it more appealing while learning about the player. And that's what I would love to see. You may or may not remember this but candace was telling calling me about a voice mail. You left her her rookie season. There was would symphony element. It was. You'll know when it's your time to come forward and play your Solo. I mean it was. It was everything I remember. I had it for as long as blackberries voice. It really wasn't that you really take the game of basketball series. I've had the opportunity to work out with you a number of times and you know even last year at this time and and just seeing how serious and how you kind of make other players or relate to the game outside of basketball so can you talk a little bit about that. Yeah the team activity that exists between the game in life. They can't be separated. You know they're they're absolutely one in the same and you know a lot of times. We'll we'll look at the development but as a player and just look at it from the skills perspective but not looking at look at it from the emotional growth perspective and understanding the Connectivity Between Improving on Jab step and doing the same job step you know a thousand different ways thousand different times and how that connects to you improving as a person on a day-to-day basis or how to deal with the fact that you may miss four or five shots in a row you know the ability to deal with. That doesn't come from the basketball court comes from your emotional stability and security as a person so how do you connect dots And to learn those things you gotta look in other areas not just basketball. You gotTa look at Classical music you gotTA look at nature. You GotTa look at other people in different industries and how they're handling certain things. There's a lot of different ways to look at it. In essence the world must become your library. So did you take tap dancing classes to improve your footwork. We're literally Organizing organizing a home right now and so you know like anybody with a home you start getting clutter and stuff like that. So we're kind of organizing everything and sure enough. I found my tapped. Yeah that's the best. News is though the voicemail that you left candice the most unique motivating tool. Have you come up with anything more interesting since then when it comes to a rookie in either the NBA or the WNBA. I don't I don't know like I don't know I mean to me it's just Just weird just sounds like a normal way to communicate but it what's normal for. You is not normal for others. That's why you're Kobe Bryant and the others are the ones watching doing so for you in maybe a very normal way of communicating. But it's not normal to others and that's what's so fascinating to have the opportunity to get into your mind. Lightened just makes me very weird. It could just be that well I don't I the competition Titian like I've moved into the booth and done commentating in the offseason now and I missed the competition when I'm not playing when I'm watching you know whatever ever team on MBA. And I missed that. We're you decide the winds or the losses but I kind of get that edge from doing adventurous things like I went to a cliff and jumped off of it the other day and and I talked to shack he deejays and gets that same journal. And how do you get the same a- journal in that you got from playing basketball it's hard to get the same kind of rush from it I think you know what helps me. A lot is that I'm still connected to the game in the sense of for example show detail and how can break down game aim to help players learn more about the game through through film study through doing camps and clinics coaching. My daughter goes there things. Things that I still maintain a really close connection to the game. crapping stories and building a Publishing Company Building Animation Nations Studio. But those are very different though because like I put out a novel in November. Twelve you don't get media feedback from that you know it's not like you hit a game. Winning the crowd goes off and you celebrating. So it's a different kind of a rush and I've had become comfortable with the fact that I'm not going to get that saying Emotional connection that I had with the game of basketball. It's going to be different. Happy Okay with that well for the first time since you retire. The people of La feel feel that kind of excitement surrounding the game of basketball again. What are your thoughts on this battle for La? Not only being a battle for la but perhaps for for an NBA title man. It's awesome you kidding me. This is just as a competitor. It'd be a competitor dream to participate in something like that. I mean Mrs. It's fun joining just like everybody else. Okay let me ask you one question. If you're guaranteed a ring you're guaranteed a ring to come back and play woods humpback play years either way. You knew you'd bring other okay. I know I like I like my rings by earn them that way. I don't I don't like the you know the jump into the easy route I window wingate not surprised. That's not sized either so you what's going on perhaps in la now the easier route. Well I mean you you can pick a team in. La Seems like it'd be the easy route both teams both teams are great. But you know you got you got some great teams around the League. I playing well but I would. I'm more fascinated to see how The coaching brings this collection of talent together. Like what system are they using how they developing. Oh things throughout the course of the season Because on paper you have a lot of teams I look good allowed you owe that look good But now systematically you gotta figure out how you GONNA. Xp You got the team with your personality going to be as a team and how you're GonNa progress through that route of course the year. How are you going to manage injuries? And all those kind of variables that that win or lose your championship. Who are some of the players? Now that you've targeted as worth your time worth your investment guys that you want to invest in moving forward You know honestly it's A. It's a lot of players that just have a curiosity about the game like I. I enjoy talking to players that are really passionate about playing You know okay. Read probably the one I talked to you the most He's truly become like a little brother. Tony so I've I've Kinda speak more to him Probably most other players But I I'm generally open book and Y- available to share whatever inside I you also have Some great insight as to who has that Mamba Mentality. We've done our best not only to figure it out but to capture it somehow as you're watching watching the game now it's back. Who is it that has it Well I mean a lot this generation of players area that are coming up now that have Kinda watch me growing up 'cause you know you know there was a shift where like when M. Jay was playing guys. Weren't really buddy buddy each other and then like my generation me a I mean more buddy-buddies each other. We were playing. You know you become close over over the years but then the next generation that was kind of like everybody Kinda grew up together playing a basketball. Everybody's buddy buddy. Everybody works out together and now there's been like a big shift. We're like this is like no. I'm not here to be your best friend. You Know Dame's listen. No I don't I don't I don't WanNa talk to you you know and it's become kind of more competitive and more combative The series between Philly and the Celtics last like two teams at genuinely don't like each other So there's quite a few traffic this new generation. That kind of has that ever tally. And you told you honest to go get an MVP and he did it but koby. You're the first ever guest on lead low and Parker so we wanna hear before we let you go about some other iconic I in your career so let's start with the first technical dear member it. There's there's no way I remember. No do you have a favorite one as their favorite technical favorite technical. He was my favorite technical. That is a hard play like when you feel you really earned and like confronting official sure. Let's say direction you like oh I don't remember one like specifically but I remember dropping of bombs or every now and then you know like really getting it out there and then sometimes like apple I i. Can you really get upset. Really WanNA get your money's worth. I don't think I've ever been a jacket for arguing with the referee technical. But I've never gotten a jacket for that outgoing aboard people and stuff like that but never arguing with the rest. Speaking of getting your money's worth then your first paycheck. How'd you spend it first? paycheck do my first paychecks Put in the bank. That's what I did with it enough about smarter back then if I would have bought some Lan. Dan like invested into something like that but it wasn't mine was in that place in that place. I just put it in the bank all right. What about the first time you're in the gym at four am Jim at four A. M. was lower merion high school janitor used to open up the gym for me? Actually go in there and shoot before before school started the rest of the day's sending classroom completely sweaty right. It seems like a good idea and then you have to use like the body spray. Hey from head to toe and it's like oh no. You're kidding class you though a very sharp dresser though whether or not you showered what was the first outfit that you bought specifically to arrive to an arena for alphabet. I bought two ALITA It it was a suit. I bought a suit. I think it was a an Armani suit. ooh Back then to. You gotta remember remember like the early nineties. Mid Nineties. The whole sweater pain baggage chains. It was different. It was a little different area. Will your daughter just went to homecoming. I saw the pictures. I am beautiful. I know you went to you program I think with Brandy and I don't know if you know this I went to Prom with Dwight. Howard your old TV? She did believe that yes I did. We have a photo of thousand four. I did not really. We had to bring out the but I mean I'm just saying this photographic traffic was the first thing that popped in your mind to bring up. She wore Bunn was cute. I'm just saying so. We're talking about first dates. Yes the most athletic pople well. When was the first time you realized you were a superstar When the Nessin I went to Mexico on vacation after our first championship and we didn't take security? We 'cause we never had through and we said we're GONNA go to Mexico or hang out have a good time. We went out there and went to a little gift shop up and then we couldn't get out to give shots around the store and that's when we look at each other like I think things have changed. You were the gifts you became Sir Sir. What about the first time that you felt starstruck by someone that came to your game starstruck? Mike it might have been my first comment the form when it was like like when Pamela Anderson within yes everything really in Hollywood. This is crazy. Yeah that's a good answer. That is pretty good. They're like like when I first came out here all the people that I kind of hung around with We're like you know went on to do really successful things Destiny's child is just coming up Justin timberlake family would just coming up Jennifer love you so it was Kinda. I don't like this kind of crew of of young ambitious People that wanted to growing together in this market just casually. Destiny's child yeah they. They came Justin Timberlake. Yeah they've all gone onto pretty great. Things are all right. What about the first time you met Shack? Yes that I remember in nineteen ninety four and I went to a playoff game I went to a playoff game against the Indiana. The Anna Pacers and I went in the back and I met Penny and getting one. Nice to me Even bumpier player. But then I met let Shaq Shaq was really really nice. He's really not a fell. How you doing good luck to you? Take a picture all right cool. I I gotTa have that picture somewhere But that's what we we might actually have it somewhere also or shack may be able to give it to us. I'm sure in nineteen ninety four. So what was the. What was the outfit was the drip like right? Remember so specifically mentioned yeah meeting him. It's gotta be. They had like you know. Remember he used to wear like those dress pants with like like address invest when like old shirt under the bed. Hey Dave for him like a little gold like the the TWICKENHAM. Cheney used to wear win though was the first. It's time that you knew your last season would be your last season after a home. Game Against Indiana think it was dazzling knew for sure a number after the game is kind of set in the arena arena emptied out and I just my legs were hurting my mind everything I just knew for sure this is kind of been going back and forth after that game like I knew for sure this is it and then decided to act on it in a pretty quickly. After that Kobe I remember at outside of an elevator in Beijing aging at the Olympics. And I remember meeting your daughter's for the first time and the first thing you said to me you were like hey. These are my daughter's going to break all your records one day remember laughing and then you know your your little daughter. Didn't last that hard. I'm not GonNa lie very hard and so. When was the first time you knew g like she wanted it? Probably about a year ago like one of those days we got beat by like forty or something like that and you know just sort of determination to get better like she. She wasn't Salkin. Oh consulting or anything like that. She just was asking a lot of questions about the game. Like how to get better. And what should I do. Hear what they're gonNa do this or would it. This happens that curiosity ask where she didn't get bogged down. She didn't let the walls weigh her down for a day or two or anything I mean she was just like right back at. How can I get better and Uh that's what I knew. But she she's she's she's a dog man I mean she can. I mean I could tell them that I that first meeting when she didn't chuckle one of her many genetic eh gifts after I mean there's a lot of work to be obviously mean but it's it's the determination there The I love the game. Is there so we'll see your final night on the floor I was working the earlier shift at NBA TV. I leave and go with a couple of friends to my favorite Karaoke. Oh keep our and I decide in about two hundred people there to dedicate to you Kobe. Casey and Joe Joe's all my life I had about two hundred people singing all my life dedicated to you as you on. A big screen are walking off the floor so I want to know the first thing you thought to do once you knew you were done like the next day sort of thing. Oh sure you had to have slept in that day right or did did you go right back to the four. AM wakeup call. Yeah no we're we think also like three in the morning. The kids had school. But we have the impression in that you know they were just going to sleep. I go to school until they come into our room at like five. Thirty six o'clock and go to school. uh-huh what we're doing what life looks like now. So yeah. That's what that's what it was. Just the next day just went on as you know you know as being a retired athlete is just amazingly you have this big night and then the next morning. It's quiet you with your family. You're driving around doing daily the areas and things of that nature and It's it's it's. It's a beautiful feeling to have the feeling of know what life goes on Kobe you. You have chosen to invest both in Kansas and I- uniquely at different stages in our career. And I know that you have to go because you have to get to your daughter's practice but if you leave us us with any final words of advice for this project that we're launching together. What would they be Continuing to touch on The person that makes the athlete and the athlete that makes the person I think they're content like that is. This doesn't exist out there too much. 'cause everybody what he wants to do with Sivy superficial stuff but you guys have a great knack up they get a little deeper and making it entertaining and make it fun and I'm looking forward to Washington you guys is Dominate the PODCAST speaks. We're not crying. I'm crying coby so much for that for you. Taking the time to join us and I really hope that at some point I get another voicemail. Your podcast right. Yes you telling me that we could do better and the things we need to improve on. So I'm looking forward to. That sounds good thanks. Can't get enough of the NBA sign up for NBA League pass to gain access to every game aim being played across the association every night with all new ways to watch through the NBA APP visit Mba dot com or the NBA APP. To get started today because this is a new project. We're going to try some segments to see me. You know what the fans like this. We've dubbed and that's what we said and that's what we said it may stick it may not but for now. We're going with a few big topics the first one this weekend. They were inducted into the Tennessee Hall of fame. Tell me about the weekend. I'd agree time. It was Tennessee is home to me went back. We're we're on a drive up here to Atlanta down here to Atlanta and I asked my daughter like what are the things you really enjoyed about it and she said I loved seeing coach Summits Plaza. She has a Plas- out front. That has her statue on it and so you know going back. Home is tough because we do miss her a lot but being able to celebrate see familiar faces got a got a huge huge love from from the football fans. When I when we were announced it? You know at the end of the first thing you get to see some good football. We can't I can't tell who said expectancies. Okay Christy. Watch it okay. My volunteers crushed South Carolina. And I was extremely happy telling you like I haven't witnessed a win in some very long time and you know I bleed orange so it was a great win. What are are some of the memories that when you step back on that campus and you think about coach summit me think about the days that you spent honing your craft there? I just remember coach. Summit always was one of those people that just didn't talk the talk she also walked it and some of the life lessons kind of echo in my ear when I'm thinking about her when I step back on campus. She always said you win with people. That's how you win. She said Metals Olympics Championships. All that's great. But when she looks at banner she sees all the faces of her her players are staff And then I myself just this obviously transitioning into this kind of new career. It's really about the relationships and the sooner you realize that sooner you really genuinely. I don't know just fall in love with the people that's when you really become successful. How big then is her impact? Not only on your daughter but on you as a mother the way I parent my daughter. When she was little and coach someone was still alive? She would always call her coach. She'd be like mom. Is that Tokyo coach. Phone and Mike. Yeah this is coach in Pat loved. Layla I mean would stop practice and take her into the stands and play the drums and Walker. I mean she absolutely loved Layla Ella. And so sometimes when I'm telling her something she'll be like mum even at ten say mom coach taught and I'm like yes. That's something that coach Tommy. And so she understands who coaches. And you know. It's our job as disciples of coach summits continue her legacy well. Congratulations on your hall of Fame Induction Induction. Thank you the first. Maybe but I'm sure not the last. I am undoubtedly sure not the last so we were both on the road for opening week. Exciting Moments Memories Memories. What stood out to you? Because you're on the west coast while I spent some of my time in Toronto for rang night and then down in Houston. What stood out to you about your trip? Man Well well first of all I think being chased center was unbelievable. Okay tell me then you saw it in person and I didn't get to. Our photo was on the side title. Jason how big was it. It was giant enormous like chuck could stand one hundred times in front of. Wow and he's no slight man and let me tell you. This chuck tried to say he wasn't going to subscribe but he later text me was. I was just kidding. It came out strong. I'm subscribing. He had to be cool for you for the program ramp to I. Guess what as you're watching. The game stood out to you about some of the Western Conference action. Quiet Leonard is a beast right and and I think the crazy thing is defensively. How crazy the clippers are right now? And they have one of the best defenders in the entire league still sitting sitting on the bench and Paul George and a lot of times when you have offense of power you wonder if they're gonna Comeback Rusty Will Paul. George can affect the game on the defensive end. So I'm Eh was crazy to see how the clippers dominated we'll end. What's crazier is like as we talked to Kobe about the battle in La and how good basketball has become come just in that city? It's really across the board in the Western Conference like I was in Houston. Would anybody be hugely shocked. If the rockets won the West no like there in that conversation. I am interested to know what you think about James Harden and Russell Westbrook playing alongside each other. I've always been a fan of Russ. I really do feel like He. He is very misunderstood and I think he is adaptable to the situation. The thunder he had to get triple doubles for them to win right and with Houston you saw in the first game game against Milwaukee. I mean he came out composed under control willing to make the next pass willing to push facilitate and do what was best for the team so I liked the way that that him and James Are GonNa play I gotta get James Harden going a little bit But he's going to knock down shots well they're trying to do so in the ways that make each of those guys uniquely uniquely them when we had our broadcast meeting with coach. Dan Tony before the game. He told us that kind of the idea is that we'll get out in transition every single time. Give Russ the ability to get to the other end of the floor and to try and attack the paint. Then if defense pacts the paint you give James his time to get back into the half court set you kick it back to him and then let him cook but those guys are probably not going to be on the floor more than about twelve or so minutes together. Because they're going to have time with the first and second units and then they'll obviously as Li each have about that much time sitting on the bench as well so a lot has been made about whether or not they can even make it work but if you let them each do what they do well I mean are we talking about. I'm in agreement with you. A I think definitely their usage for both of them are GONNA go down and in But I I like utilizing that I don't know if I would play them. Only twelve minutes together. I think once they figure out how to play with one another other I mean people said the same thing about Chris. Paul came right. They were like dominates the ball. There's no way he can play off the ball will. Rust hasn't had to play off the ball. So you have to have a learning curve to kind of be able to experience that crazy thing is they can score within four seconds. Five seconds of shot clock his speed and his athleticism. How much though do you think can be made of the those guys friendship? Like how much will it matter that they have a friendship. Now that spans a decade. Maybe a little bit longer when it comes to these dominant players dominant personalities. How valuable well that aspect will you saw early on in the game? James Harden talk in the Russell Russell Westbrook kind of the way that you talk to your family. You know that you can talk to your mom in a way that maybe you wouldn't talk to your boss because you know she's not going to leave view or fired like when you have a family bond like that they can talk to each other that way and we're the ones that'll make something out of it because they're not they're not and that's the thing when you're playing playing with players that you genuinely like teammates that you genuinely have their back and you know they have your best interests at heart. You can say those things and I guarantee the James Harden isn't GonNa Smack Away Russell Westbrook if it were to happen. I mean. We saw them boxing. Summer not going to happen I can I can. I can guarantee that he's not gonNa slap ways. That are very first Charles Barkley gaurantee. He said he wouldn't subscribe it. He is going to be guest yes show right he is he has to be yes especially after the button open. Auburn Tigers just took he has no choice. He's he's got a lot of time. Now it's got nothing but time. When he said he wasn't going to subscribe he was like well? I have a life you know but really what are you that busy doing that. You can't come on. This point. Looks good he has lost. He's lost a lot of this year. Which is funny that you and I always talk about hanging out with him is what gets us out of shape? And then now he shows up all inshape the season visa. Charles put me back a couple of weeks. You know trying to trying to injuring. So you have all the media pundits talking talking about your body and whether or not you're in shape for your WNBA season but like they don't really know what those late nights look like. They don't understand what they're talking to running sprints and suicides suicide and all that stuff I don't know what it's like up at two. Am Get off and like you gotta what chicken ten like Hotel Milwaukee. What else I suppose to eat? There's nothing that's the flawless transition to another big topic. which is that every day is Taco Tuesday in Boston? The TACO GEICO fall cult following. Have you watched what has happened here. Well first of all it was a Helluva turns. I really feel really they pay me the big on it. This is a guy almost the way we talk about Kobe. Like really. He uses tap dancing to improve his footwork and symphonic melodies to to get him into his Mamba Mentality. It's almost like he's becoming that guy that we create these stories about I mean he actually was put in concussion protocol from walking into a door frame. I'm not kidding I mean I've seen this guy he came. He came to who are eastern conference or Western. Whatever you WANNA call it? We don't have a conference in the WB anymore game against Connecticut in the playoffs and he lifted a kid Out of the stand and held him up over the Rim and the kid through the ball and it was. He's the biggest guy I've ever seen you and I. They are not short. I think that people could look at the photo of us and think that maybe we're average. Sized women were not. I'm almost six feet tall and you see how much taller candice this is than me. I even at Boston Celtics Media Day Saul like local media members who always play it cool around some of the biggest names in the game or like. Can I take take a picture with you. Because it's like a grown man that comes up to another grown man's belly button awkward like how well so the name Taco Fall Fall. Got Me thinking a little bit about the best names in sports. I'm not even talking about nicknames because we could go on and on and on with those I'm talking about your forgiven Christian name made you owe legend. That's I mean thoughts you know I. That's a good one. I think God Shamgar right you. Yes you have to change his name so he knew that that's probably wasn't well then if we can go with people who have changed their names to what then became the name of legend. Can we go with Ron R.. Test can Modo with world peace. That's a good one. I mean everybody was kind of like what we needed it. No yeah indefinitely but then everybody was like Meta when they. Aw I mean world peace written on the back of an NBA Jersey. That's you can't really top that Kenya purple and gold. They did it speaking speaking of purple and gold. How about this high school football player? Who is now committed to Lsu his name? I'm not kidding is D- Coldest Crawford. His mom knew something. Will you know what his middle name is no his entire name. There's no way that I'll say it as cool as the coldest list is hoping that I'll say it but his name is doc oldest to ever do it Crawford. His middle name is to ever do it allude to ever do it to do yes to do it. The person that was writing the birth certificate out. Are you sure that that's what you want to name your child but I mean hey listen. He is the coldest right at this point and committed LSU refresher though if you're ashamed that because you have to actually beat coldest to do it once more pressure Dakotas to ever do it or Lebron James Junior. Oh you know what but that is an excellent question. Because I don't think it's close. I mean I don't think I love the early on when Ronnie was choosing his his Jersey number that it's like well I don't want to get twenty three because it's so so maybe the crowd will be confused when they announced number fill in the blank. Lebron Ron James Junior. Really who is that. Who who is? Who is that? I meet a lot of pressure though to live up to that name. I think it's a lot of pressure to have. Lebron is your dad anyway but to then name I mean. He admitted it himself he was like I probably shouldn't have done that. But it started out. Maybe it is in the name. I mean brownies. It's an amazing basketball player already. Dakota's just got signed with Lsu. I mean he's going to one of the top programs so maybe we should kristen your firstborn born. Maybe that's the key to name them. Something okay so Leyla my daughter. She's basketball well. That's a strong name. Maybe he'll it'll be a fighter. There you go all right. That's a strong. That's like that. Yeah so what should we name my first born which by the way he or she is not coming anytime soon. As far as I know. However we've gone down this road so we're going to keep on the which should we name your I? I said we because we're friends right. Yeah Yeah it's something to think about so if we could change your name's what would be changed. I liked it at so nickname right If you weren't candace Parker Omega I don't maybe this is something we should leave up to the fan if you so we're like we're asking for all this fan feedback on segments that were interviews. That work you know off if you tweet or post at Indiana and just tell us we wanNA know because we want to get your five star ratings this NBA which in this case is going to stand for no basketball allowed so we're taking it to the US women's soccer star. Alex Morgan and she's coming off an incredible year. She won the Silver Buddha at the world. Cup She just though announced that she and her husband are expecting their first child. So candice you so as a professional athlete also a mother. What some of the advice you would give her man? I am so happy for her. It's GonNa Change Your Life. You know obviously as an athlete but as a person person to begin with so first and foremost. I'm a huge believer in you know taking your time. Doing what's best for you for me. I you know. I was young and eager to still play so I worked out every day and try to come back and best shape I mean but guess what. There's like a human being growing your body. We'll wait which talking about the coolest names. Maybe we should name her child like the boot. Oh I like that to boot. A contrast who told her kid hottest she's like you're not allowed one hundred feet of oil ever so you bring up a great point candace because her baby girl is due in April role of twenty twenty so the Summer Olympics would be three or so months later. I mean how does that feel to perhaps carry Harry the weight of the pressure to become yourself again the the you that we've expected her teammate. Sidney Larue has kind of gone through that in you know. We've watched on instagram with her post doing training camp when she was three or four months pregnant. And you know we've seen different journeys I mean now as women as athletes athletes. Our bodies are incredible. We're able to do a number of different things. I think she can go at her own pace and figure out if she wants to come. I mean she's accomplished enough as it is so if she wants to take time and take off great if she doesn't go after it and she's capable of doing it but I don't think anybody buddies should shame anybody into doing one thing or the other. It's your personal decision. Well so if your advice for her is to do what makes her feel most comfortable Roland. Most confident what would your advice be when you think about the hundreds of thousands if not millions of opinions that will come ringing in ever so loudly as soon as as soon as she makes that decision. Well it was funny. I was looking under the comments. Because I think it's really funny. Sometimes with Sydney Larue. She post about when she was in training camp with her daughter order shoes pregnant with her daughter and people and she was like if you don't have a vagina dot com. That's underneath educate attack on this subject so ever you educated and you have not had a child don't comment and that's kind of my take on things everybody's different people come back super fast. The people come back slow but at the same time you know. She's going to do what's best for her and you know she'll be back to form for sure. What was that process like for you for for me? I was twenty three and it was coming off a huge year. I remember everybody was like how could you do this to us. Like I was just disappointing as if you had done done something vision wrong and I was like you know. Male athletes have kids all the time and nobody asked them. How could you do this or even when they have the kid? Nobody on a road trip is like where are your children and so for me. It was just a unique experience of understanding that it's important to talk about it and it's important to understand that some people all like to travel this way and some people go whole different road and that's okay and I think more people are talking about. Now I know Serena Williams really opened up about her experience even with postpartum depression and different things that go on with just having a child and I think it's really exciting. It's an exciting time in your life. Did any any part of your decision making throughout that process did any of it stemmed from the pressure that she felt to immediately return to form. I had my daughter in a carrier in one of those little carriers two weeks old and the gym with me for my first workout. Two weeks post having her and my brothers were in attendance attendance in my brother Anthony played in NBA for years. It was like I don't know if you should jump back into it like this. I think there are steps in me. Twenty three young dumb stupid no. I'm good I'm stubborn. I got it my back locked up the next day. I could barely walk but I set a goal when I found out I was pregnant to come back July fifth and play and I had her may thirteenth and I came back July fifth and I was not the same by any means. I was still nursing at halftime. And you know getting up for her feedings in the middle of the night. But I don't regret it because I think a goal and I would have been really disappointed in myself if I didn't accomplish that goal that I set for myself. Well which jokes on you brought her to the gym at two weeks old and now she's not really that into playing basketball. The joke's on me. Leyla is like. I'll show you mom. I've been in the gym enough done. You know what Yeah Right. You can't bring me in for a five. AM workout at two weeks old and then expect me at eleven years old. That'd be that was where I went. Wrong Morgan. Don't or Alex Morgan. Don't bring in your child to the field. Don't bring her. Don't bring field bring her. You know we can switch. Leyla can go because she likes soccer. Leyla can go. Go play soccer with Alex Morgan and my like that. Yeah Dot Com. Yeah play Bass Babysit. You don't call it borrow a child job garrison they have kids all right. Well so how are you feeling by the way now. We just essentially finished the first episode of Ludlow and Parker. I'm extremely excited. Thinks we had an amazing. I quite a journey. There were laughs it was there. Were tears discreet debut. How do you feel? I almost started crying when Kobe gave us like. I'm glad we went immediately to a break. I can't wait to check my voicemail. Because I'm sure he's going to have some words that's right he's going to critique the podcast you could have a melodic we smell. We'll do it well. This is happening. Every single Tuesday lead low and Parker worker. Don't just subscribe rate US Five Stars and tell all your friends. We'll be back next Tuesday.

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NLU Podcast, Episode 269: Sentry TOC Recap

No Laying Up

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NLU Podcast, Episode 269: Sentry TOC Recap

"Beater right club today. Yeah that's better than most about. It is better than most battle. Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying up podcast it was just going to be This is sally here which is going to be the C.. Suite doing this. TC across the table from me. Hello great to have have you here. empty shoe neal is in town and leaving very early for a trip tomorrow and we didn't think we'd have him but he stayed awake watching a lot of golf and now he's in concern about missing flights nights. So here I am. I was going to the Erlich Bachman. Move where you know what's going on inside your house but instead I decided to jump in and get involved all right well maybe a stretch of a take very disruptive the chaos theory is bucking. It's head very very early in the year I I we had a whole bunch of things ready to talk about not not know that tournament was going to get that good look like jt was gonNA cruise all the way to the finish line. I feel like I feel like he got a Lotta he just kinda losses swing down the stretch like he just completely just looked uncomfortable for the moment. That that The PUTT lipped in that. He didn't think that he thought he made. He didn't didn't really seem to swing it very well. And I. I don't know about you guys. I wouldn't WANNA be hitting shots off of those lies that golf course. When I lost lost confidence in my sway actually thought the one that he hit the second? Play Awful Kinda bad job to hit up on the right. Hit a super flat lie so I didn't think that was actually can't really get there. You sure but that was one of the ones he hit. Probably the best shot from bad left Mrs there that look familiar to you knew the verse verse. Three one very familiar. Putting the the twitter the twitter the cavalier police were out out very quickly and put very much work very quickly they were. There was video evidence. Though I was just GonNa ask the questions I believe leave. It was period point blank. That didn't cross. There was the quote honestly at first. I we were thinking the same thing but you get an aerial. You see like the bunker her. There's like a bigger cut in of the hazard and then it kind of re cuts back into the fairway so then it made sense to me. There's obviously element of shot shape to that but an an will also said immediately like he's GonNa be dropping away back there. You know so that kind of feeds into people being like what what happened here. I don't know if we're taking everything easing says at at face value. I think that's a separate take. We can circle back to. I think is going to get better as it goes along. Because he's he's watched Golfer a year. Now this I like a lot as much as a lot of people do we're not gonNA we're GonNa do coverage stuff just just yet but we're glossing past the best part of the day. Doc Patrick as the sun is setting. It's already said it's dark out there. Don't bear the lead the lead. It's much it's much darker out there. Can you was way darker than the camps made it look but can you believe. He almost was able to overcome somebody yelling as he gagged a Putt on the the Eighteenth Green in the third playoff hole. He you know what what a story about. All those overcome is the is the university tough couple months for him going back to the Ryder Cup. That's right I mean all the things that were brought on him totally not done by him. Only himself we'll say the guys yard cheater one when he uttered after the PUTT. We watched it a couple times. He yelled after the plot was gone. You're left with well after the plot barrels away balls away and I mean that's that's kind of vigilante. That's fair game. It's vigilante stuff. You're you gotta you gotta he's gotTa be ready for it man count of life. I didn't get any punishment. Otherwise otherwise glassy from the fan. No but is he wrong you know. Can we talk about the fact that Yeah Kessler tried to fight a fan at the most recent MPG tortoise and he got zero punishment and he's on the baby he got fined who knows who knows what their jurisdictions like in a different country country. Maybe the maybe the. PG's hands are tied. I don't Tur- polls involves exactly like it. So there's a lot of moving parts you know if if Kessler wasn't able it'd be there how much you just adding that to the list of things read. We had overcome exactly disappeared. You two are honestly can they suspend caddies. Is that a thing. I'm sure they could do do something something. Or they wouldn't let them tatty the final day they could not let them on the grounds right. Like they credential. Everybody yeah so they could pull it they. Of course it's got to in the contract somewhere. Everything else is right like everything about video or any little minutia or ambush marketing. There's there's a clear ause for everything their the army of lawyers. Why is the tour and the golf channel bending over backwards for read like why read because take for everyone? Everybody's a class act like unless you unless you you smoke pot or unknowingly take a ban. It's it's because he's in top ten in the world because if you're in like the top tier Europe marketable dude will just yeah. We'll cover it up because you're making you're making us money but like if you're not and you do those things then you can be made an example of an example. Why isn't there been any commentary about L.? Like the reaction to what has happened. Not as we're making we're making fun of this whole thing like them. Talking about him overcoming. Why isn't there anybody explaining like how many people are out there including players that are extremely suspect about what happened and have said things and are continuing to say things about it because the torches expects everything to blow over like it always does and and everybody is a class act? You know what I think the biggest thing would be is if the European tour of which has agreed is a lifetime member ever decided to indefinitely suspend him. Why is he a lifetime? Member Walter guesses as good as he was a European tour. If you're a European tour member and you win a major they make you a lifetime labour. Yeah so so let me ask you this. What are you looking for from the toilet for them to make a statement like might release oppressed about the broadcast broadcast announcers at least give both sides of the story we some more like it's more on the coverage than it is thought toward? It's two different conversations. I think I think the tour the boat has no no because I think the tour is leaning there leaning so hard at golf channel and NBC. At least at least golf channel. NBC can present both sides of it very fairly all yet. You don't have to say like everyone thinks he's a cheater. All you have to do is present. Say he did some things. He's he's very questionable past he is clearly. We had this whole violation. Explain the violation instead of acting like it was just some horrible event. That happened to him. Explain like he made his bed here. I well I think you do give her credit. This week I think as Zingers done a pretty good job of addressing the elephant in the room a little bit while while Dan Hicks just tries to make it as class act as possible. Do you think are so pre production meeting Wednesday. They know tunnel the players. There's no time read like I'm sure they have a paragraph or like bullet points. Here's how here's how we want to address this. I think it's just like is that. Is that influenced so you think like from the tour from the. Oh they're sweet law like it's already in motion like does fall downhill from straight up during during the president's Cup Week and I'm sure the whole lead up to this there were guys like there were certain. VP's of communications from the tour watching every every bit of live from and golf central and calling golf channel to complain into advise like you guys better not you. You better not go down this road. Basically I like so. So that's how much they're trying to control the narrative of. Hey let's just make everybody quiet and make sure this goes away and the more they do that the longer it stays in issue. I know we're going to keep it alive. Fans are gonNA keep clearly somebody nobody there at the tournament. Somebody I forget I just saw a million tweets go off when this happens. Somebody said imagine what happens is going to happen in New York at at the. US Open for. It's going to be amazing. That's like the one event New Yorkers to rally otherwise it's a total novelty and you hate it but well I mean if you look at for if you're looking at from the tour standpoint there's probably a million examples of stuff that they have buried not buried but like I said let's not talk about this anymore. Moore did go away. That's right because think about it in the last five years there weren't a ton of outlets for people to keep it alive if it wasn't live from or something on the golf channel so they you know the playbook may not be working anymore but we'll see like I mean you could look the only example you have the cooter tipping stuff last year and that's still alive has become like a parody at this point like I don't know if it's still like agree GIS six month life's still drawing rory shredding a gimmick that one event that's good nature yes completely off course not broken. It's like no man. There's a reason why everyone's upset about at this and can do we think is like on the wrong of all of the people watching this or read which one we think is wrong. I Really WanNa talk about reads post round interview. And just he's like a cartoon villain the way that's what they have to make him out to reality so it's rates radio radio. It's there for you. Take his body language is he's like cuts dodge is it's unbelievable wearing all black scores ten when jt not missed like he really can't help himself. It's crazy I think read and Bryson team to bash brothers. I mean maybe Lisa. I Dunno if somebody's said it feels like with read to me it feels like wwe. It really feels like pro wrestling man like what he's the bad dude man. What is bracing going to do to get the attention back on himself? Now he's got. The game has been upped. Redesign bryson shirtless. Pick is coming man. Right he's been lifting pricing. GonNa play Tori is. This first tournament is playing Sony. This like I feel like he's been he's been in the gym. A bunch you know trying to get to what was like twenty eight. He's got a new website. I feel like he's GonNa probably give us a bodybuilding pick at some point next couple of months. Can we go back to read and talk about the loss ball found ball situation. I think it was yesterday right on. Can we take a quick break to talk about Zander. First second for sure. And then we'll get zander. Played some golf this week. I feel like everyone was getting really am too in. Its everyone does in the beginning of every season. Alright all right so. Jt and Zander GonNa win all the major this year but what is the realistic like projection Zander. This year Zander's going to win the PGA okay. I was getting ready by by the end of. I'm guessing by the end of this podcast or next week. We'll have given out twelve major championships but I'm willing to say I love that. I think he's a great great pick for the hassle. The way put the masters last year alone. I mean and he's he's so solid man it's unbelievable like the way hits those those three woods like he did it last year to win here at Kapulua and then I just Ireland is seventeen. It's Kinda like the Stinson three. Would you not just nuclear the only one I didn't like I was expecting acton him. I think it was on fifteen the short for the bunkers on on the metal that good drive he had the great. Dr J. T. was in the bunker. And then he he kinda just Chit Wedge Shot. I feel that man but I was like legitimately shocked at that happened inspired. I just I love watching this tournament. We're GonNa talk some about that. But how many different shots the guys have to play. But he seems he doesn't seem on the surface to be the most creative player like he hits is it really high and it's kind of a formulaic approach. But his his success at this golf courses pretty hard to ignore at this point. I mean the fact that he hits it so high but but the but plays well. It's such a windy golf. Course within like lends itself to all right the guy's got some serious touching artistry in his game will some would say that it might be because of a new calloway a prototype driver that he has in place she two hundred seventy episodes. I know how to do this now. He used it to win three matches the victorious. US team at the Presidents Cup. He said he liked the prototype drivers since the first time he tried it it has served him. Well Kapalua this this week so get this. He led the field in strokes gained. T- degreen and strokes gained around the green this week using you ready. Are you ready. The new chrome soft X is golf. Ball I don't know if you saw the trip on there. But is the new Gulf ball prototype. He has way he has the prototype golf ball he actors round on Saturday already he told PGA Tour Radio. I'm using a new golf ball calloway's new crumbs off. I'm not even trying to solicit it. It's just I feel more comfortable with it before I was a little worried with little half half shots and spend now. I'm more comfortable in pressing the ball lower to the ground and not worrying about what it's going to do either blow up or get to flighted. I'm comfortable with how I'm hitting it. Especially on this slide. He's playing the crumbs off. The X chromosome dex The new one not out yet. It's not the one that I'm Paul. I play the same trick off that I'm trying to tell you that that this ball is not out it just making sure maybe i. Maybe I'm getting the new stuff gonNA get the new stuff you're eventually. We're all going to get the new stuff eventually. You can find all that information. All the what's in the bag information at callaway golf dot com fair enough. I'll take your word for it. I'm trying to get you guys excited for the new equipment. It's about to come absolutely I was. I was bummed. I thought he was going to just waltz into the rest of the playoff e putted super. Well Austat Zinger throughout was right before he missed the pot on the last hole he he was ninety five percent from inside ten feet this week. Can we can we have already said. I know that stat is literally said that I said to Ron Right. When he says that is unbelievable? The word word I mean. That's that is meant for Neil like why. Because he only had like he was like nine probably all five footers footers number. You just doesn't really. It doesn't really tell you anything. But they love that stat. Listen that's that's the kind of data analysis alison. I need love when I was called off guard grade inflation well fair enough. I need to watch golf. I guess it out where they're meeting stress. You're kind of getting this right. At the beginning of the season the most exciting part of the PGA tour season right. Now you're here for your down at the kill house you're going to soak it all up with us. Listen you're GONNA see why are we gonNA sick. And then he missed the PUTT man. Did he chunk the PUTT on the from the fringe is yeah I think he he did not. It is the eighteenth green and capital. We like it it seems a little. It's not I want to say this I send it to. TC as well and tell me if this is a bad take seventeen eighteen. They're the same hole but once apart for once par-five like they look exactly the same from the blimp or from the aerial. They're they're pretty pretty similar right so that to me. I don't really love that. I like the the eighteenth of fun to watch golf on but I see what you're saying. Where like if you hit twenty yards in front of the green? It rolls like the same way to the back of the green from like all those whether it's with a twenty yard wide dispersion of of where that ball lands in front of the green it still ends up in the same spot in the back left unless gusted. Yeah unless you call so that you just said right there is like always my response sponsor. People that say they don't understand what the term shock value means. It's like that for that whole wide range. To had the same result means the shock value is somewhat limited in that. Now I think is. There was just some randomness with the way the wind was blowing. It's a first year with all these grass growing but like JT's chip that stop talking about this. JT chip that stopped from by the bleachers news. And zander's put it went. No it looks like the same. JT's looks like he was moving faster. And I don't know how. Jt stopped and it was a little bit. It's pretty angle but still fill it and then reads like like I was going to stay up at the top of the hill and it came all the way down before we get going too much further. Can you guys talk to me a little bit about herbal active. I don't WanNa get too far away. I know you guys are excited. You're going to need some herbal active for sure tomorrow. We'll take them now because you are are B. A. L. A. C. T. V.. And that's the one problem. I have with it every time I see you are B. I just think of urban admire active got anymore brain busters spokesman spokesman for active. It is that'd be who cbd product in this household. I M three to four drops on the tongue before going to bed. Maybe half an hour before. So you're on top of the tongue and not not so. Should I be sub should be sub. Lingual WHOA I didn't know that. Yeah why go in the coffee. Five to six six is kind of. I took it before playing golf on Friday and I shot my lowest round that I've ever shot back. Did she has the men's out there too. I did not just took. I handled my bad headshots a lot better than my stomach was causing me fits and it was just like. Hey it kind of is said to catch a lot of things. Yeah it has but it's one of those things I've have if I take it consistently like I couldn't I'll it's almost like you forget you took it and then you know hey man like I feel like much less jittery. You almost almost don't realize why in the actually that's that probably makes sense. I did some personal testing at the end of the year like Q.. Three last year I started work with them. Try to isolate the placebo effect and like totally forgot. I was taking man like. I haven't slept like this in decades so anyway you are a L. A. C. L. U.. Twenty for twenty percent off your purchase. Or there's been a lot of people sending US messages. They're trying to stack discount codes. You can't do that anti that can't do shop if I why that's not that's not just earl active fueled trying to do and it's it's also not the TC way yeah so all right so moving on WanNa talk a bit about read and the rules issue issue. That happened can we. I talk about the refinement of capital of the plantation course. What did you think it was a renovation or ration- can we start calling it a rejuvenation shen or refinement? There is a reason why it's called that it was rejoicing. There's some some political shaking moving around that comes with its. It deals with the city government. I I couldn't I couldn't tell you that listen pusher Something along those lines. But there's a reason why they called on TV. Well just because they're calling it. That doesn't mean we have to call taxed on brand. You know the good work and I say this. I didn't watch a TON OF I. Watch the golf last three hours. I didn't really notice the difference. So and that's a casual the IVA casual fan. Yeah so it's not it's hard for me it's like. Hey what's the difference. The Greens are. They're going to be a Tom. Firmer the course looked really soft. Obviously weather related but like to casual. I yeah cadillacs definitely and maybe seventeen eighteen or fifteen through eighteen hundred good indication. Maybe the you know what restoration my biggest takeaway. It looks a lot less grainy. Yes it's also which it celebration Bermuda celebration because they did some good segments on Gulf central like the five thirty to six o'clock window. Oh with Ralph ing sitting out there and talking about all the changes that may change in the angle on six what's the big par-three across the ravine like how they change. Change the angle. Why they did it? And how it's better for Amer golfers harder for pros and how much pinball space they added by flattening out some spots and helping to ramp up the green speed. I thought it was is really good. Interesting they put online bunker there in the middle of the fifth fairway which was kind of a dumb hole before that make players think about going around. Are they going to take that centerline bunker out I. I don't think they're going to. It seems to be. I didn't hear anyone complaining about the bunker. You know what I loved was those no. I think they all complained about it before the week did did that. That was like a big story going into it and when sloth and the tour people were like you know we'll we'll see how this goes all right. We let them kind of have their cake over here but in that golf in that Gulf week call them Adam Chupak wrote where I think. Sixty percent of the guys that were surveyed it said they would have corn crenshaw design of course for him and it's like a lot of the same guys saying that also skipping Trinity Forest. Yeah so did you rose those. I don't think I think it's different than designing tournament. Course though I do think I think that there is a difference. They're very fun to play. A lot of guys. Don't like competing on them. Ah Or and especially the way that the tour sets up yesterday for the purchase hate centerline bunkers is that I know Kudos what we're getting at well like the Boston and like I try. I talked to jt a little bit about that this week. I was like what do you think the new bunker like me is a very easy all. I think it makes total sense. And he's like why are you asking them like. Oh you wanted one in Boston taken out. He's like he was adamant it was a Great Hall before that the bunker doesn't make any sense there blah blah blah. He di he saying that it's a case by case whole specifically specifically Zap bunker sucks. He's not like people have made it out to be like he just hates also bonkers but like you know why. They're complaining about it this week. Because I didn't see I didn't I am. I didn't see the whole thing about them complaining this week but that was I. I think that was in the lead up to where how. How wide is that fair when one hundred forty yards wide? If if Luke Donald is in the field he'd probably be calling bill. Cora Cock which is speaking of that people don't know the twitter handle Gill heads redid the eighteenth green and Look something up there and he was trying to. DM somebody be actually publicly. Louis tweeted it was awesome. I was GONNA say that with the fairway though like eighteen. uh-huh regulation with JC at that drive and it was like. Oh my God that's off. The planet is not only fifteen yards like like like. Oh and then he's he's GonNa be. That might be gone. Oh He's fine. It was like come on man. Neil I think you would thrive at Kapalua. That's what I'm saying like. Oh that looks like a really appealing tee shot me. That's what don't understand about eighteen. Even the tee shot just messes with. Jt just aimed on the left and you got the whole world to the right. That's what I think it's like. He just looked like confidence. was shook like when you put makeup when pros have couple left Mrs. It's hard to stand up in wail on a ball. I would imagine Amihai. Yeah especially because you have to get to left me. Something Easier said Patrick makes us six hundred. That's seven hundred four four thousand dollars pot like I think a lot of things changed in. That kind of money is on the line. I don't care how much like I don't think Perot's get real nervous like really nervous down the stretch when they're playing. Well you just kind of a little bit and I just think that. Jt was not playing. Welcome trying to hold onto a lead. And that's like the nightmare situation again. When you specially when you can't hit shots off flat lies if you're uncomfortable and that balls above your feet on a downslope and all that I know thank you this step through? Shot those guys that I don't understand it. I know we're all anti left thing. That's what they were saying. On the telecast literally just downhill in Luke again keeping your balance as you tell you what I do off that lie though I I start dipping my right shoulder so much in the ball. Just Oh my God. It's an auto nursery auto chunk for me trying to wail on a long iron would like no way. I don't even understand the physics of it. I know we've had our fun in in the past with mark roofing on his allegiance to Hawaii. I Love Ralph rocked idea to. He takes it so well to. I have a hard time not laughing along with become. I'm a bit is a bit. And he knows it like steering into it. He tagged us in the tweet. It was like today the plane was coming in from Malachi wherever. Yep that's that's a nine cedar right there couch in the back man. It's Ralph Hicks Rough. I don't know how you've done it for all these years and it's tough to leave but that flight home is real easy. Every time he's the best. This is a joke. He knows that he's steering so far into into the Hawaii at this point. And it's if you do like if you look past the whole bit and everything is very insightful. Stuff all the stuff he knows about. The course is nuts. I've got a question. Then why is he so associated with white obviously lives there. Yeah but did he not live there and they just started living there recently longtime. He's part of the reason the tournaments he helped them he helped build a core. Yeah he was like yeah. You convince Corne Krige who is. He's CU forgetting Sarah Marshall. He lives down near the beach when he moved out to the surplus to watch did yeah. That's sweet yeah well so it was he was he like was he a regular on the broadcast. He's not on broadcasts every week not every week. But he's but he's just golfed. was He more involved before announcing like did did he like was he like a weekly guy. Say like on six in the booth on sixteen and then he's what was I going to move to Hawaii channel some time I don. I never keep track of when people aren't there but he's he's on there okay all right but he is. He is like the Ryder Cup. Help Guide because I've always kind of had that question. I know the Roth in Hawaii the Hawaiian guy. But I'm like well why I said I guess you just live there for long. Get off the great story. I I took a couple years ago. I said if if roughing was Vegan did cross fit the first thing he would tell you still that he lived in Hawaii and all I had a good. He's got a good laugh about the cross to either he gets it. Do you think they call him a holiday. A is that a is that slang for a mainlander over kind of kind of a derogatory term for from Hawaii has been there long enough. I think he calls other people that it is. My favorite thing is when actually next. It's more the Sony Open when you get to. It's like Thursday or Friday in psych. There's nobody really knows. One or two guys is scattered about Hawaiian shirts on. Just all my God. I just remembered it's going to be the return of the Canoe Jeff's all week. PGA Tour the speed and Smiley Kaufman and know the guys in the the guy like how did that Kyw man when you live in New York City or cold and get to do what that guy he gets the hang out on the golf course if on Friday they like what am I doing. My life shouts berry because that's also become a new tradition. Our Guy Burien in Hawaii. He's like he'll be in the background of some golf shot this week wearing a Scottish out about Kelly's seen on the seventeenth at Friday night after dark. You sound like Milton Waddams. My Kelly's caught with a hot mike's waiting for this win for forty years. These pampered fucks need to play. Hey okay two more holes and it's time for a my tie and Kelly died. Apparently doesn't even drink and people were speculating that he was making fun of roughing. I guess Espe people on the ground are adamant that he gets caddy was adamant that he wasn't and I talked to one. Other person on the ground is like no he was not making fun of roughing. But I don't know it was a weird moment. I don't know who he's quoting. They're telling some story is out of context quote. was you said something on twitter. That was like this is not going to be good for. This is why we can't have. We're not going to get much more. Miked up player conversation. That is but it's like you guys that's your fault like just don't have someone monitored turn on the right time. It doesn't always have have to be live is my true. I mean you can recall if you get good audio bits harder. It's like hard knocks but the best dialogue on show but the problem took the tours going to all that guy said something mildly inciteful like. There's no way we're going to let that air. I know I agree. But if you're GONNA as long as you give the players the confidence that you're gonNA filter out. All the things are going really embarrass them. Somebody said if it's if it's after nine pm on the East Coast. All bets are off I agree. Of course they're not going I mean. NFL films is a good example. They really really produced channel but like NFL. miked up is never good when like Russell Wilson like come on come on. Let's stay hot true. Like that stuff's never good but the NFL NFL films. The hard knocks yeah. That's almost after they went through hours and hours of it. The one thing that happened this year when Sam Darnold I think right. They're playing the Patriots. He was miked up and ESPN had the the silent Mike and he and he said man. I'm seeing ghosts. They're like why talk. Would you ever let that air. Like the entire jets. Organization was limited. I guess and it's a tough balance. I can see see but I think that's a better closer more realistic option than like. Hey Mike up all the players and like let him go nuts. Goes back to something. You Re tweeted. This was like basically like it's endearing an interesting in like just makes the game richer and more colorful. If like you do let at these guys have a little bit of personality and a little bit of honesty and authenticity to them whereas the it goes back to the tour thing everybody is a class act. Nobody's ever Said said a bad word in their life. I totally understand golf channel or the tour whatever removing that from the replay the broadcast. I completely understand. They removed taking part in when they replayed sheriff that makes complete sense. FCC Violation if you do that during the daytime. I'm pretty that almost as I got. I really honestly is. He don't have an issue with that. But the point Gary Morrison tweet. I think you're talking about every tweet. It was like the fact. They celebrated like the tour celebrated read making fun of. It's like mechanic crowd and then act like this thing never happened is like he's got a five K.. Find coming his way but that is well worth it got some fans. It's such a variable variable for them that would have you know it just it just something that keeps people up at night like what we don't know what they could possibly say. So we're just like not gonNA. WE'RE NOT GONNA we're not going to do that. It's really refreshing. Not hard to understand that. I guess they're not like Patrick. Bateman from from I. I can't just doesn't truly doesn't give a fuck like he a really doesn't maybe we get this kind of post hype sleeper emergence urgence like Kepco. Eventually we're going to find out that Kennedy's actually pretty interesting if he decides like start letting it fly going back to the. Does the tour fine golf channel. I think they're finding putting them in the new TV rights deal the seven hundred million dollars the toward the tour by the FCC. I would have to imagine like you can't air. Yeah I was GONNA say like. CBS and NBC crying foul and cry at Horn saying hey this is not a profitable broadcast. Oh here's here's almost twice prices much money. We need to do a separate pod on hasn't been announced yet it has been reported in the Sports Business Journal that the PGA tour rights over all went from four hundred million a year to seven hundred million years. So enjoy your commercials grads to big j forgetting the bag. I mean yeah well I will. Let's wait until the details. Czar out officially I hope they come out and say that they have a whole new plan for commercials they do. I think that's going to happen. Of course not but let's give them the chance to at least come out quick point today did. Did you notice that they had like Mike. Thomas I think he was walking with Ben Crenshaw first of all I got so much. A lot of air time But I think he was walking with Ben Crenshaw and they just totally ignored disregarded else Lewis. Thomas is like yeah that's an interesting listing tidbit. Right there next to them can we. I don't even know where to go. Maybe we did a lot of re real quick on the broadcast. I just want to say how fun to watch. The thirty. Four guys is a great number for a Gulf network to be able to kind of wrap their hands around and give give them some space to talk about things. You're not you don't need to rush from shot shot you don't need and they're all so relaxed. The broadcast sluggers in his. You Know Hawaiian lying casual. He's not wearing his cowboy hat. Fresh off a whale watching. Yeah like honestly. They're they're talking about some inside jokes and stuff and bones and then we're going back and forth on Thursday or Friday it which day and I was like man. I'm listening right now. When you say he's got off the right in these guys will lead us out there? I don't listen I don't care it so if you if you do some dumb mm style. I'm watching the squirrel. TC called it out today to They get some great camera angles coming in on eighteen like the low camera with the ball coming out swinging out the JT in the playoff out behind it. It's good it's good. I mean it's obviously just good-looking course but like the elevation change and helps to talk with. Wish they'd go with more super. Hello yes camera shots all the towers out there behind the Greens or entire seemed like they are entirely too high and everything gets washed out and look so flash at this up to the President's cup. What's the one shot you remember from? The president's camera angle was par for the camera angle from the president of the PUTT tiger head. On with the it's like you put the context back into it. You know it strips all the context out when you're up above and you just see you don't see any reactions you'll see any of the slope on the green you don't see the Vista Forty Miles Vista or whatever I was going to the president's Kobe was the whatever they short par four is. What the a crazy Blah bunker on the left that the guys are there's number six was number six I think? Yeah and that. Just because of the elevate the cameras low behind him and it was like. Oh you know you'd see it shooting switch it and show where it landed number six on on the compass it of course but again I think you know cameras height but also like like anywhere you can join the. That's part of the ovation. I feel like sometimes. They're the ball state ear so much on the side of being focused on being buttoned up and having having these these perfect stable shots and sometimes it's like she looks so much more authentic and real when you've got a hand held there and you're behind the guy or YEP. You're showing the crowd a little bit better way better job academy conversations this week. That was clearly focused approach to doing that. I felt like we I saw a lot of wolf and Morikawa and that's where like if the mic`ed up stuff like just stick with that like you can. There's not a lot of horrible things. These guys are are gonNA say their caddies know when they're having like when they're talking back and forth the Mike's right on them like they can see the mic right on. It shouldn't be a surprise. But but that's where I'd almost say like go with the Mike's on the player but just like cavern agreement with them where you're a we're just we're just here for the caddy conversation or Mike the caddy up and know. I know that like it's almost like make the Mike less of a intrusive a- intrusion so that you're GonNa get more and then you can go. It's just another tool in the in the box folks. Can we talk about the read rules thing. I don't even I don't want I. We can't even go too deep into it because it wasn't. It was just weird. It was a select. He hits his. Aw All in in the penalty area or something to the left of which holds you. Put snakes in that high grass. That'd be sick Randy said velociraptor and read. It was just a weird situation. They look for the ball for awhile. Apparently a volunteer founded and moved it and it was just this unfold weird read said to Todd Lewis after the round. The volunteer went to separate the grass. Look at the golf ball and then the Gulf moved and sank to the very bottom so so then so then what did he do after that from that as read standing right next to the volunteer volunteer moves as ball and sees it. Stink to the story so Zach Zach when he was at the. US Open this year pebble. Just let himself on fire in the midst of that His playing partner stepped on his ball while they were looking for it and and ended up finding because he stepped on it and the rules official comes over and was like Yo you have to recreate that lines acts like I don't know what the lie was and he was like well you got to bury it down in their man like you gotta make it as like it was probably pretty gnarly down. There wasn't at the opposite if he stepped on it. That's what we're saying is if you don't know what the live. It was so so so the. USDA rules visuals. Hey man you gotta you gotTa like basically make this the the assumption that you had a bad lie in the PGA tour rules officials shows like. Oh the assumption is like fluffy it went over very easily very quickly and I this being. I'm not I don't know if this is the first rules incident into or ruling. That Rita's head since then I was. I'll have to say about. It is like the benefit of the doubt is completely gone here. Ruled officials spent like ten seconds and came in and wrote like you have your good behavior. Be careful in their read. was talking about it being imbedded or something in your in the penalty area. There's no embedded ball rule. It was just weird in between the camera and the ball as we like went down to go pick it up and everything again. There's nothing noticeable on in camera that says for sure that anything happened but considering all the background on it it was just so I think he did a really good job at that moment of saying saying. Hey like Patrick Reed needs to be careful here. He's got the quote. It's pretty important for Patrick. Read to get it right at this point his career and he's going to have to get it right for a long time to come. We're going to watch him like a hawk with the cameras. That's as aggressive as they were willing to get up. Of course you're supposed to get it right at this point in your career and every every drop off your careers so I just wanted. 'CAUSE I didn't see any of this. He was in hazard penalty area area. Excuse me volunteer found. His ball moved it while he was moving the grass and then he got dropped. Wha what how back from the bottom of the reads up up into a better lie because of volunteer moved it and it went to the bottom because class act so he claims that the news. It was a very confused. Look on his face if you're in a penalty area like with Zach Independent area. It doesn't matter if you're if somebody kicks your ball or something happens you can even create a Uh Okay I. I don't know how anyone ally was and so again. This is not the same as what happened. In the rule the rules officials are all Mahalo. Oh you know they're in there. They're five for sure. Come on and then an and then after that same round Todd Lewis walks up and and read gives them just the biggest biggest load of jargon about you know like Hey Patrick last question I gotta ask you about the President's Cup and everything you've been through since since the hero world challenged engine on that and reads like. Yeah you know just amazing to play for your country and go into battle with your boys and all that so I wanna know if how closely read follows everything that's been going on with the United States and international foes in recent weeks because he sounds like he's ready to sign up when he says I I think the biggest thing is just enjoying going to battle especially with my team fighting for my country and play for the red white and blue especially with those guys down there for the cabinet to believe leaving me as well as the team to believe in me to be a pick but also go out early and earn a point at mental. What the fans were hostile? As you'd expect especially going behind enemy aligns but at the same time I love the game of golf. I never would have missed it. Patrick should go over this is wwe. He's he's just Patrick. Go over to the Saudi Arabia event. which is now presented by Softbank Really? You're you're Chinese boys. Yeah try Japanese boys and then and then do a corporate outing in Iran with Softbank. I saw it on the on the euro tour schedule today powered by Softbank can we. Are we ready. Can we slide on a bit from from the century and we talk about the new handicap system real quick one on the century. This really really just the Piss me off. Today we talk about the ten year extension to deal signed through twenty thirty Martin. Martin trainer finished dead last by H shots. Thirty three shots off the lead. Sixty four thousand dollars. I know the money's whatever all right he earned from gates he moved up thirty nine spots in the Fedex Cup this week by finishing dead last. That's tough scene. Well well I mean. Granted he moved from to twenty-five but he got the equivalent points. It doesn't matter if it's the tournament of champions or got the equivalent Livan of thirtieth place thirtieth place or whatever third had second place or whatever they don't make any any change between this and normal regular regular student. You're just trying to get you to notice about the Fedex Cup. You fell for it. You fell by the century extension of all tournaments. I think this is one of the best ones for a sponsor the thing about like I remember Hyundai like Mercedes. You remember the first term of the your golf hasn't been you know very relevant for most fans for the last couple a couple of months and it's like I think it's a very good brand awareness thing so I completely agree like years. That's a long struggle partners which Philip side after everything that Sony. There's business has been in the tank for forever. They had the hacking thing all that stuff. They have never wavered from the event and I know it makes sense 'cause kind of halfway between the US and Japan but it's like man that's that's pretty some pretty remarkable consistency from a company. That's been embroiled in some deep shit for a while Can we please tell the handicap system. So do you have any advil because preemptively take my head hurts the handicapped. Yeah I actually think we can kind of explain it where it makes sense. What do you know about it you know I? Well I read the piece of maybe. What the issues with it would be? Where do you keep your handicap? MJ Metropolitan Golf Association. Unfortunately Ninety Bucks a year ninety Jackson awesome places but New York. They send me a quarterly magazine. Do we get charged like. How does that work through? I think you would get charged yet. I don't know I don't no no exactly it's like an it's an club. TC PAYS for goal. I could also play dumb tournaments or whatever but no offense the tournaments novas. Anyone he wants. You can't keep it at flushing meadow. Pitching they're not they're not. They don't have the key components of the new handicap system. which if you're listening to this? I think it's going to come live fear Monday Monday January sixth year as as it might be live right now we're recording us at twelve oh nine. Am but so key components eight of your last twenty scores instead of your. Instead of ten of your last twenty now I got some of these quotas from the Ryan Harrington's Article From Golf Digest talking about all the all the changes he quotes Steve Edmonson. Who is the director of Handicapped in course rating and saying it allows for greater responsiveness to good scores and rewards more consistent play first question? How does removing two scores from counting reward consistent play? It seems like it doesn't pay at all. Yeah that'd be seemed like the opposite and the the struggle and the APP is not working so I assume it's like eight. AM might be so. Yeah I don't I don't understand the first part going from eight eight of I. I've always hated that. It's like ten or twenty. I feel like I'm a pretty streaky player. Yeah and I just like the handicaps us and take advantage of me a little bit and when you're when you go out and shoot eighty two. It sucks yeah. It's pretty embarrassing. But I don't know that that's that's the first one. The index is update overnight. Now not every two weeks. That's going to be a disaster for trying to flight of horrible because basically for turn I get it for everyday play but for tournaments I think like members cut off to set it and forget it I think it is. It is nice to open up your also got to be very which he should be anyway. Obviously but sometimes you get to log your scores so you know you plug in a couple of days later. Whatever that's my big change some stuff too? I did a lot of times. You won't post right after the play they forget to do it or whatever they keep crowing about this this whole you know if it was a tough day out there. It's going to take that into account the next one playing conditions calculation Asian which I thought was a cool idea but then read an article. or it's like well. What if what? If it's windy in the morning perfectly sunny like it was a jack speech you know rainy and then it's Wendy. Wendy I think in general that's going to even itself out. I don't think somebody's GONNA play on the bad side of a drawl and he's got a bad drought rubber the green but like for the people that are the people the play first off like every morning. Yeah and it's warm and may you live in a warm climate and you're like one of those guys goes first off and you have no wind and you've known when you up and like you can zoom the course like that's going to I don't know I don't know I'm willing to let this play out a little bit but I am suspect based on each sound like the UK and Ireland. Yeah yeah supposed to be the world handicap. We're just going to wait and see it's like the whole the whole thing was to unify this and get the UK and Ireland on board basically and then. Now it's like all right we're the guinea pigs. We're GONNA eat shit for a little bit on it. And I think the biggest problem is they've they've been totally per usual they've been totally ham fisted about rolling it out to individuals takeoffs associations like I I re tweeted article from Golf Digest referencing and had no less than four or five five different people who club Pros State Golf Association Director of competitions in the southeast actually multiple multiple reach out and they said like we've totally in the dark there's been zero communication. US goes guys are. Are Those guys onboard. Those are the guys that are supposed to be implementing it on a day-to-day basis and directing like like the George takeoff. Associate like those guys are supposed to be helping their thousand or whatever member clubs implemented and they're just as in the dark as we are. So here's the the two that are the most troublesome I think about this about the new system ardent this new concept of net double bogeys painter Max score so like depending on your handicap range if you're like attended nineteen handicap the Max or you can take a seven if you're above that that maximum tickets and eight and if you're like anything nine or below you most you can take a double bogey for equitable stroke control. which actually I made? I made a triple all like a like a net double the other day I had to go back and exact. Correct the score. If you get a triple on a hole that you get a stroke on like that that is now your maximum helping helping better player sandbag pretty much. I think so. Say That to me one more time so it's really going to be confusing for people because if you're getting a stroke you're the maximum score you can take on it now is gross like As those are four. But you're getting a stroke. Yeah your maximum you can take us to be a six. Yeah now. It's seven if I'm getting a stroke based off of like your handicap. Okay so if you're a five handicap and I'm and I'm playing the second hardest hole on the course to now my I could get a triple their correct because it's a net double correct so people are going to have to be very conscious of where they got when they're already pissed off and yes don't care like you got to remember which I do. Think the news scoring entering Depending on where you enter your scores you are either allowed or encouraged to enter hole by hole scores. Are they gonNA use like. Is that part of the reason. Are they going to use that to help handicap recap like Marie Handicap some courses. I would hope so I. I'm not okay. So but then that's I hadn't apt before where the the only way you can plug in. Your scores was hole by hole and I found that to be so annoying because of like I'm trying to score two days later. I remember what I shot I. I don't have my I don't have a scorecard on me. It's not can't plug the score. Do either I don't think you okay do that's all. That's that is a such turnoff. Like I know the post right after you play but sometimes it doesn't happen right well. Here is where things I think. Get the most wonky. And so this guy. Dean canoed assumes how you say wrote the article for Golf Digest two very sounds like Dean had quite a lot to do with coming up with the current system so I think he actually made the current system Dean ween. He holds us what he calls serious concerns with some of the details of the new system in an effort to create a one-size-fits-all process. Every Golf Association can accept. I believe the world handicap. EPSOM is a downgrade from the old system and he gives a lot of reasons. Why but one of them being so you used to come on a lot of people? Don't do this properly I. I just learned how to do this this year. So I'm not preaching from this but your course handicap is your index times this low slope rating divided by one thirteen. That's how you come up with like. Hey this is how many he's trucks get from. These tees blew my mind. You never know how to do so until I read this article in also if you had the Jin App like you can also oh like choose a course and T.'s. And it will calculate your handicap. I knew that you do that. But that's how I never knew the one thirteen thing. So now it's the same thing. The handicap index time slope rating by one thirteen. Follow along if you can't complain it's like it's like golf pie so the part is going to be a a great day. It's GonNa be hard to follow here. But then you also add the course rating minus the par. Okay so basically really what this is going to do is cause a ton of variability between the amount of strokes you get from one set of keys to the other so I looked at Jack Speech. The gold tees are we are something along the lines of just under seventy three course rating so if my Really A four-stroke broke differential between the settees. or it's so it's it's like three. It's like three strokes it's high sixty nine for the blues and low and high seventy two for the goals but that does you take seventy one course. So let's take your index times the slope whatever you take the course rating and then you subtract the parts that we buy goals and let's it just say seventy three par seventy one. You are automatically just adding two shots. Whatever your course handicap is for playing the gold tees? Now T. it forward. If we played the blue tees which is like sixty nine and a half for par seventy one you take your next and you just subtract off one point five the random par we've talked about this many times R.'s. Relevant very relevant but apparently with a new system we're bringing in for some reason which course rating has already the factored in the difficulty of the golf course. Yeah the par of it means absolutely nothing so like everyone having to change their index on a totally it goes against the entire ethos of what the issue has been trying to advertise of Haiti at forward. Like they're they're basically saying if you want like if you want more strokes and you drive the ball well relatively well tip back and this guy argues basically. The part is so arbitrary that adds nothing but noise to the calculation for example. Where once a course I handicap was a twelve from the back in middle tees and eleven from the front under the new calculations? There'd be much larger variations as many as eighteen and shot in some instances between tease which. I don't know where he gets that math. That might be like legitimately the biggest ends of the spectrum passable and I don't think a lot of people all are playing five or six like well so so go back to save for instance When we were doing Torah season three? And we're figuring out DOC which teased the play at positive impo which teased harding park. It's GONNA be who've it's going to be who've me to take us back as far as possible like me me being the higher handicaps. It's GonNa be who've like let's say you and I are going to be moving back. I'm GonNa you want to play the frigging championship tees. No you're just GONNA WANNA play whatever I play. There's no advantage if you have a higher amid handicapper and a low handicapper. There's no there's not can WANNA move up a box. Exactly you're GONNA play back a box to play because you're going to get more shots out of that. Compared to the there's just not nearly over over factoring. The tee boxes is there a reason in there for why the US J. brought into this. I don't see I don't know of a reason. So like for example again you a scratch. Golfer are no longer zero handicaps everywhere so basically if you're zero no matter where you take the handicap. You're going to be. We like zero because doing the math on the part of the Slope Rating Zero Times. Whatever you could be anywhere anywhere from a plus twelve to a six handicap onto the new system on depending on what T- you choose? That seem. That's outrageous which again is is extremes. But it's still the Utah a par seventy two course course rated sixty to be a plus twelve but yes. It's which is insane but basically things are going to be changed other words one of the courses that they're playing on strapped hitting you. You're GONNA go there. I knew it. Here's observation of all this personally. I never really understood the handicap system to begin with and its flaws and so I think the US has a tough time even explaining explaining the basics of it and like Kinda uses the all we want to get everybody included like the Arlen aren't involved but then in the they just can't explain this stuff. Do you know what I'm saying like well kind of explain. Why Ireland aren't even on board and dad's a whole point is like what are we even doing? Point is like yes if this is totally implemented successfully people from the US. We'll be able to play against people from the UK and Ireland much easier which seems like a very small size of people. Yeah like anybody. That's playing like friendly's across the pond our professional golfers offers right or your or your west hardened from Greenville or like a very small subset of international members in Ireland. Like I don't know it. It doesn't seem like the real problem that needed to be solved. I do want to see it. Roll out it also says in the original article that do not expect your handicapped to move. But your index is to move by more than point one or point to that's not going to blow up your index however the applicability of it and I wonder if people are not do that but I don't think it will use like like you're saying all this stuff I'm like I don't even know that's how that's usually like when I go play with friends all play tunnel golf's handicap. It's all right cool. You're getting five strokes from me. You know you get whatever it's really I think I was just like a benchmark. Andy will be a very good person to. We can calculate his handicapped the old way and then his handicapped a new way. Because he's he'll love a love a couple of seventy four is on there but randy's like is one of the people that will pay the highest price. I think exactly because he's going to have to move back boxes or give up a lot of shots and like he doesn't hit it that far so he loses a lot of shots moving back. I don't know it'd be it'd be an interesting case. Study all all right. We're GONNA do a couple. We've got a lot of good tweets a lot of questions and then we're going to wrap. It is getting pretty late here. Tommy two-putts one of the best twitter handles. What's more likely likely to happen this year Brooklyn multiple majors? Torn forces enforces a slow play penalty on a non Asian emitter read gets cut cheating again in the strap. Boys hit the mega bonus. What's most likely most likely to find caught cheating? Because he got caught cheating time. No but all but they sure true. DD Mega Bonus. As as the franchise once told me feel vote for yourself who should advocate for for. Mvp All right. I had so megaphone. It's all day. I Bet I bet they enforce slow play. Somebody do they have. Are they ready with the penalty system. Now they're going to hit somebody who are going over forty being out of position. I think that's under the current rules. That's the only way they can do it. If you're out of position on the clock and you take over forty seconds for a shot which seems like a weird flex at this point but they do it just just to say. Hey look at us. We're we're enforcing the rules. Who the first time ever? What if that guy's guys kids don't get to go to college because of it? Who can say I would hate to see that? It would be just heartbreaking. Even even Martin trainers feature children are going to college. So you're saying it's likely they enforce slow play. He is I think the most likely thing is that destroys mega-bombs. Oh come on. So your your courses you'll get your shorting brooks. I don't think he wins multiple me all right all right Brooks's listening guys. Here here comes saw. Barry shouts very windy and soft at wildlife today. Jt Pulls Jimmie Walker Circuit Twenty fifteen and cleans up the Hawaii swing right and what he did is fifty seven I I would I would I would. I didn't tell anyone this not a single soul this week but he was by. I picked wins picky. I think he's GonNa win again this week again. That'd be I've I've I've been telling me be. Just go ahead and win while I get. Get it over with lockup as card for a couple of years and that'd be great let me sick. Yeah great great track for him. Ricky legumes so this broadcast has been kind of good. It is it Ralph. The no cut limited Field Hawaii. Primetime is located. Zinger is growing on me while acknowledging he says we're dumping. I saw that tweet. I agree with all the things he said I think I think he just basically wrapped in a bow. What we just talked about Zinger kept talking about the corner office earlier which is basically the C. Suite? I didn't watch a ton of golf this week but I heard I think three different times Zinger talk about Matt Wolf Lifting his left foot. Yeah Watch this right here watch watching a replay all right be. This is always one of my favorites. We gotta do is early in the year as possible be stakes no. Bs Number One ranked player in the World on twelve thirty one twenty twenty number one ranked player in the world at the end of this area. Looking at me like I got to go I. I'm GonNa say the RIB that was is going to say some. Say some crazy. Neil now I Honestly jt after the stats saw about he. Youngest player Jack Sam snead and Tiger to win. What is it twenty nine know how many tournaments he's won twelve tournaments now twelve before the age of twenty seven? That's that you've shared earlier on twitter about it. Basically just detonating spe- I didn't mean to put in perspective. It's well we'll JT's last six starts excluding the euro challenge in honor of Tron. Thank him but he was win. T. Three I lost the page but like t seventeen win t four win and Randy. Says he's not a killer but it's cool like anyone today ugly. He's one running away one ugly. It's almost like he just getting more and more comfortable doing it. Like I would say I'd say. Jt The best whole SM Elliott Eleven and Best Holik Capitol Hill. I WANNA apologize earlier. I said fifteen it was actually sixteen. I was talking about the poor for short par four. That's the way stab. Boy Yeah What's your favorite whole Capitol Hill? I think sixteen sixteen that false front and in when they put the pin up front right over the false front but then you can use the slope right behind the pin. That's Dope I love that. Do you have an answering neil seventeen and eighteen because this is the same because they're the same hall so I like the eleven par-three goes down the hill. That's really cool. I think icy shanks does the PGA Tour Golf need to always have a villain. Like Patrick Great. I think we kind of yes. Yes it helps and I hope. He continues to wear black on Sundays off the undertaker Ben Abraham J. Who's the best player going into twenty twenty that no one seems seems to be talking about talking about also shout out to all the nestles out there so recalling Nestles I guess apparently? STN'S BASS S. player that nobody's talking about. I haven't answered this and I said I think on the last last pot as well the one with porter it. It's Jon Rahm. Yeah it's the forgotten man. He's been so good second. Half of the year was unreal won the race to Dubai. It's not a secret to anyone across the pond. I feel like he's Kinda gotten just kind of forgotten about on the aside I Dunno I'd have probably have to watch more where that was gonNA. Yeah I I'm not gonNA take because I don't have a good one like I don't like in and I'm not proud apartment with Morgan Stanley. Good answer but I feel like I haven't heard about Justin rose and at least six months. Yeah that's kind of like a career though. He's always been like that. I kind of forgot about them. I think that's pretty close to be because there was one question there that said question like why does Hawaiian clothing. Get so much like Hawaiian shirts. Get so much love. It's can. We spread that around and like other parts of the country. I thought that was a good take. What do other parts of the country have their own shows? That's why was thought-provoking because because I was like I had to start thinking about it and not really but what if maybe other regions should like develop their own clothing. Did you like rix outfits all week brick brick rickie fowler. Rick Feller Yeah for sure what's not to like about pineapples. Bdr Big degree. Yeah I I thought that was just a thought provoking working with you this week. I wanted to shout them out for that. One thing. I had to add I was just poking around a little bit tonight I was. I was curious if there are if the if they're doing the risk reward challenge again this year be if the risk reward challenge hole at Kapalua was eighteen gene. Because how would you handle that if the guys are playing over and over again in a playoff but it was actually fourteen. Is The score challenge hole. Then I saw Jason. Jason Day is leading Jason Day and cured Audubon leading at minus one point one point five hundred par on the score challenge holes Jason Day has ten rounds has four rounds of qualifying so Jason Days getting ahead of it so he can shut it down early. It was gonNA say why are you calling out the score challenge sort of stuck out to me but but yeah got some agency persons just loving that last part of the take. Did you hear him calling out your trunk Carter on the Noling podcast. PODCAST is. He's he's pimping van. I have one question because I'm curious because it's going to be very different answers from both of you guys. Who Do you think has a better? I season out of Morikawa Harland Wolff or walkie neiman. I WANNA burn on this. I WANNA I wanNA spend some extra time on this in future. Yeah I was thinking to answer that question. The best part is talking about is was walking Neiman going into the President's cup. I felt that way I was like man. This guy's like unbelievable. But then analyzes his golf swing talking about how it's probably not very consistent with how he moves his head and stuff. I think I mean I guess you could say Wolf is unorthodox to haven't seen them play and feels like six months. I don't know he's he's he's he's resting right now he's going to be back. I think it's offline I think happened is big mountains. I'd say Wolf is I'd say Wolf will say Morikawa okay. Wolf is going to be better than I think. People think he won last year on tour but it was like literally. He's he's should be in college and we're going to watch him play out his junior a year on the BJ demand. Sure I think all these guys should be college right. Yeah Neiman's twenty. Yeah yes if I have any concerns about Morikawa is that he's too Polish. Might be too good. Also I just I was. I'm Kinda flummoxed by Zander like not executing at the end that was weird it was bizarre he looked so solid up until then it looked like he was just. That was the character. It's not like it's not like we've seen zander under he. We saw here last year. But it's it's almost like we expected them to close even though the body of workers they're put in my notes like I'm always so impressed by shopping when he's under the gun he so steadying totally in control and now is when that was after she still three-putt. We're kind of laughing about it but if you if a guy's got gusset on like that ball as a pro does not hit it. Put Not that far past like something weird happened there. It's new new grass. I don't I don't know what to attribute it to but that was really weird I liked. I liked his post interview to. He's like I should have won that tournament and everybody knows I should've done it like I like shopping. Well I think he blew that one. Put the First Eagle PUTT budget. Because he's trying to make it. Answer this as quickly as you can. Okay how many Ryder Cups Zehnder Shaath played one zero. He wasn't Harris. That's that's right that's GonNa be like guys always plan more more presidents cups than you ever imagined and far less rider. 'cause they'd never take rookies as cabinet picks for Ryder Ryder Cup. So all right cool. Let's rapid that where you had a lot We're going to be hitting the this the west coast swing hard and heavy here in the next couple of months Good to get it started. Started here safe. Travels to the strap boy's head out somewhere. Listen that's private. Make sure you take your CBD rainy stores. Yeah that's true now. They're going to be right. It didn't say you were going on straps. I said I said Lord are cover man to destroy. You just blew your own cover or we're not going on a strap zapped trip ere okay. Let's see here. Rapid that cheers exit. Tuning Club Beater Right Club today. That's better than most about about in is better than most than most expected.

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Knitting 2.0

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Knitting 2.0

"Wisdom shared by The Hague's face and occasional host husband of Scotland in the pages of the Sunday post in the nineteen fifties. Be Today. Hello and welcome back to another episode of the pass it on podcast with me. Steve on chest and today I believe we're going to do nothing to point all mystery game. Call it nothing. Two point. Three Point. Oh I'm completely lost on netting fact here you have no idea anymore. What does two point? Oh retriever two boys just see Belgian to don offense fashion to it could be three or five and we have definitely done letting at least once perfume. I'm Steve decided that because a bunch of folks in lockdown are having a crack at knitting again and crucially macron. Manila's stuff that we would do the same thing here so we're to revisit the topic. The book contains a lot of netting tips. It was a very common skill. In fact was a school. You had to do to make clothes. I'll tell you also found people have been doing on nicotine which makes no sense to me a finger netting round. Well juicing your arms needles it must be difficult to do stuff with the rue. The rope called maybe another person. Maybe as a team building exercise. You're not going to happen and I won't be doing not. Hey we shall. We stopped yes. Please tryst canoed. You press the button as well yes I can. I can also click ingle knitted cops when my boy is lumber. Jackets sleeves got shot. I missed it cops and suit them on after moving cuff bonds. Mrs W Finlay sustained struggling of those of Bruce. I knew you're going to lumbered lumberjack. Kit Yes what is that? It was sort of like a flannel leaves. Really sorry I remember them. Baser when them into combat in the nineteen seventies all usually a titan. Sort of like Ambiente. Ya I know it was funny. Cuffs and Friday cola yet but the notion of huffing arms extended by among knitting it. Go I can tell you. Know those low of young men who sought. I don't want thought on will told by models whilst the Mustang Badge of honor no thing Nice Dis. If if somebody were to do that Ginny. We'll know if your mummy but to think like if if you yourself and I don't mean necessarily specifically you. Coney provide like if if one oneself was to like you know to patching and sewing and extending the life do you think in today's modern youth would respect if I look giving longevity to a clothing I mutation is what maybe I don't know if I I. Yeah I probably wouldn't necessarily bump in chase me why they have to extend the arms not back and other arms go but surely only aren't exactly but your fool rank surely the arms similar speeds of the of the torso. I guess an jacket style probably was there'd be a bump covering at the win. I'm imagining somebody with a jacket. Sort of to go bugaboo Chris. This is definitely a mentality. I will pick up in the sixties and seventies if you had. Pus owned colludes secondhand clothes. Very very obviously mended clothes. It was a bit of Tinky Ish I saw but nowadays those are sort of reused repurpose re will mentality. That did not exist for me. I was a child. Yeah it does remind me of L. Initially went mainstream at it. Because I I know that a low of them Mike. Have you crafty Nariyoshi hipster? Frayn's food certainly have said that they want the they like the idea of you taking something that was you know. Bought maybe second hand and then patched in Belleek can the sixties you would you would take pride in the you know floral prints you'd put in your knees of your then in jeans or whatever bud light. You'd never the Netflix went into the mainstream. I kinda thought might because you know all of that can a more progressive does eventually lead by dame but it it can estate as I think I was secondly I liked the notion of faded jeans but did not like the notion of my school tires on knees being touched and Passat says the law by my sort of US petitional self but that was the way it was back. Then I did. I have to say the other day was walked down the street and I did see a couple of young women walk into worse. I catch myself going home late. Those teams are just nothing to them like there were there were so ripped unfunded Lake Stein those heights and he'll just when they are sloshes in the thigh region they make very good wine glass holders does anything of Fabio all forms of activities jeans today. Lots of good. Modern turbulent a slightly taken a very coney ish by the point I can. I say something slightly off topic but I just want to wait. Could you so? I watched Saturday night fever for the first time ever the other night on. Steve was it like when you are young was born in the wrong enough because I was watching. I knew all the songs never watched a film in my life but watch the watch. The film. Neither songs was. Aw I really was not sense born. Lena and I just wondered if that was what it was like. You know what's really changed now? I've been in a nightclub of a civil weeks. No but but you hook to ask some Dunston. Newsday's not doesn't seem happen. No not really I. It has like wise been. I mean a matter of days. I've lost in Bermuda even when I was a away. Even I was curtain and I wouldn't like formally ask someone to dance can. May I have this dance? Mark my cards. But you know he's going to be verbal of asking. Would you do this up? And maybe you know signing someday there will be chicken and just be eyebrows involved. Dope GonNa Happen. Quite match on pain. Nausea. I WOULD. I would very fondly. Make sure that I knew who I was done. With Japan Curtsy beforehand. I would talk on the shoulder top on the on. Say would you like to dance? Reach Youth Cuban heels on both of our. What's knows probably think I'm sue from completing overestimates in dramatically. Kony is Jill. Oxides I SORTA is am I signed for Scottish meal. I'm the normal. Ain't get one length. Babe had I was the word horizontally ways maybe good. That wasn't where she was. Just calling you fat apartment. Hell GonNA insult somebody. Call me for God's sake it tell me what proof of Peru on some wheat during this look term. Sing was streams. I find that I can't tell him spending more money or lace bingos anymore. I'm spending like vestments. Money in supermarkets now obviously. But I'm also not spending money only munchies or other from the office so I dare become a bank account over the every State is court this bidding. Oh goodness I'm Steve. You promised that this would be an episode about Netting and so far with one one tip weeks we try to squeeze one more than before at brick yes again Hyundai table. I bought a knitting machine and didn't not have a table folded. I find that using my owning book was ideal. Mrs E CALGARY. Three to four creek park drive gloss go. I have to say when you say say nothing. Can you imagine a harsher doesn't have a table to machine on the goose then to buy in knitting machine should've thought this full she wayne does have a table but Maybe like a table and she got six children. That sal it do their homework and their meals and she can't be moving. Our machine retain name was Kabuli. Not Well I don't know I mean I'm assuming she has a table maybe just not a suitable table. What do we think? The she'd Watson knitting machines. I don't know in this era as I do this. Well could you essay gascony? Well yes because I'm thinking of all of us and get all meant and the if you have seen the one of the sheep in it. I can't remember when the is if all goes she'd been. I'm sure that as walls gromit knitting machine that does so so it's just it's just a big white sheen that you program with With with knitting stitches. And then you gotta think site deciding the Knicks for you surely has just cheating. I mean it's missing which is much less labour-intensive I'd also requires a little bit less skill. But that's okay. I'm I don't like the idea as you both knew I write an electric bike and people always say to that on the first hearing of US cheating and Michael Yep I absolutely nothing wrong with taking shortcuts. No gain to do stuff in a way that makes sense Benito Martinez what. It's called an a close shave by Wilson. Combs Steve. You wouldn't tell me what the an sixties well when I was a young man growing up and On became a very king football supporter but there was new place really to a football scuff. There was no club shops in those days yet fashion. You don't scoff and my mother who owned a knitting machine sale above a cottage industry. A knitted scarves and frugal. Kohl's full Moose of my friends even some who didn't support the same team has ended which I thought was a You know I've not so often years. No my mother doing not she used to To get the models of the other voice to pay for the Buhl but took no money for the self and I remember getting a short of the because it was new adjustments. Be made you believe Zip. The knitting machine handle thing with a new little until the state was was deep enough and then Scott came out in the end gardens of its release. We think I do. And also it was a comparatively simple thing for her to do. So it wasn't. It was a big imposition. If knitting at our jumper could take somebody weeks Something quite complicated with a passion. Butler a scarf is just you know is that is that. Is that as a kind of thing to do. Because it's quite nice and easy to do but it made it was a really nice gestures. Astra. I don't think we appreciated the time. We're moving the football the ours and redeem. Would you have taken pleasure in the fight that these were like cool made or we the nabet embarrassing? Would you rather if down at one from the club shop or wherever there was no such thing as a club show of as follows article UNAMENDED? You could buy with folk of got almost almost the knitted scarf administered by Mullah manifestations in things that more the official club merchandise which settling Dundee will sold in kids that they were very expensive and the role sort of caveat neckerchiefs of scalps usually made of materials album rule. Nobody sold ruined scarves of the type. That you see buskers. You got all made of Playa. 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Well I just thought by tip if we want something. I've no so about honestly decades. Since I've considered settled on motion minorities nowadays. You go into a club show up in you you by Scott. That looks like it's been method by your mom because traditionally to choose and deed am. We are just going to go to a quick bank and we will be right back after this Chris. Here stepping into Steve's usual at slot just to say we're shortly going to be wrapping up this first season of pass after a year of publishing every week it has been massive amounts of fun for free of us and I hope for you to our success has like Steve being modest. We've extended discount code for the passer on books to thirtieth of June twenty twenty. You just have to use the word darting at checkout at DC Thomson Shop Dot Co Dot. Uk and all the episodes will stay out for good. Long while so you can catch up with her earlier episodes. You can help us get kice for a second series by buying the books and telling your friends to listen to season one book sales and downloads help us prove our kind interesting experiment is loved and wanted. And isn't that all anybody wants anyway. Back to the show and welcome back folks and I can tell you that I have gone. Looks at my scarf? Because of whom have lieutenant my oldest football scuff Lewis note when that was by my mother. But I'm willing to can you Steve. Please take a Selfie. Do you have your phone and I can send you such a thing magic. Once we're finished recording saint l. fee and then we'll stay on the past important thing is leave your slippers on also for Philip. Well See I. I hope a beautiful morning a no like twins shaved head as well. No no I do need to by being able to just for fun not enjoying it. Much to be. Honest is not much. There's definitely a pin point or an irritation point an achievement conditioner on the. Yeah absolutely Hilo by Boba. 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Humans are bananas or something it's Crustacean CL STATION. The lethal to lobsters. Crabs YEAH I don't really care about insects. Spiders and stuff. Don't bald I mean wasps scared of slater's Anita bags only make me feel very unwell centipedes by fatherless Hortas giant slugs Ou our our my daughter goes to nursery and they have pets Neil. Oh a joint. African land snail and the teachers today sent an update of the schools. Right as we record this African virus each night update today up. I'm showing us how you she'd been cleaning Gary this neal's cage picture of her holding snail with Ashi Cola per arm. My my daughter was so excited to see it. She was so psyched to see Gary again. I can't wait to get back to play with them. I was Not For me not mean there could be Dixie. Little snails US disgusting. I wouldn't house. Yuck S. cargo titus do nicely and okay. I think we're Denver today. Are we done I I? I'm done I think this is. The earliest recorded is one of these from home. 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Tuesday 5/12/20 - The Woolly Mammoth & A 150 lb Beaver

Chicago Dog Walk

18:50 min | 4 months ago

Tuesday 5/12/20 - The Woolly Mammoth & A 150 lb Beaver

"All right man today is Tuesday may twelfth onto the dog walk presented by Barstool sports as always. I'm here with Chief. Chief was caught on. What's going on? Ed feel good. Feels good to be back on Tuesday. Yeah definitely does We talked last week a little bit about extinction And I think we're GONNA roll with that again today right. Yeah this sneaky. One of my favorite topics that I'll just read 'cause I'm curious or watching because I'm curious on my own not for content. Not for him just like this is sweet. Yeah no it was. You sent me all the stuff and that's usually how it works like you're like hey this is what you need to get on their radar to kind of be caught up and I read it and I was like. Wow that's very very fucking interesting You've written some stuff on the blog about it. Yeah I do kind of these wakeup type of blogs on Wednesdays historical things so I there's been one from an October two thousand nineteen one from earlier at some point this year. I think about like the animals and theories about it and we're GONNA Kinda get into some of that Today about how these animals went extinct saw. Where we're GONNA start here. It sounds like with the whole ice age. What was taken over by that right? We can get into you. Know we'll figure it out has begun about how we're GONNA figure out which animals of extinction to talk about starting with the Ice Age. I okay you WanNa talk about like what What caused it or whatever whatever McPherson and this goes to like you know a roughly thirteen thousand years ago. So it's like that's when like the last ice age kind of ended thirteen thousand to eleven thousand years where we had kind of a like a rapid cooling and then followed by a warming period And that is when you start to see more evidence of human civilization and and like they call it. The cradle civilizations happened all over the Middle East and some places in China. We kind of developed farming. And we've kind of been on this path since then but before that we're all kind of hunter gatherers and you know we were limited because of this giant ice sheet that was covering Much of the northern hemisphere so I'll far after Columbus is. This is this is. This is how this before. Obviously yes. I realized after sensitive to make sense but this ike show. This is stuff we they've just learned after so many years. Or what is yeah? It's through geological surveying and But yeah this is wait. Welcome to our Columbus before Jesus before the Egyptians in all this is as well before all. That's just so hard to think about you know and it's like it's so hard to think about like. I was watching a different video about dinosaur extinction. Gary like they had this meteor. Come in that's been a generally accepted. Now that hit the Gulf of Mexico and the dinosaurs were around sixty million years ago it took four million years for like life to on earth to be normalized. Yeah so fort like you like. You can't like how what like. How do you even fathom that? So a big rock from outer space a like a huge fucking rock sixty miles wide hits earth wipes out everything for four million years. Like I like. That's like it's an incomprehensible amount of time. Yeah and that's what that's what it is hard to understand as people think like the country's history picks up there with how you know pushing it far further and further west right but it's like no right so much more of the story beforehand. So that's why like I'm trying to think of a time. I'm timelines had last ends. If we got Columbus fucking rewind it a shit ton. Yeah the I've seen like things where it's like. If you were to like have the entire history of the earth it over like a mile long period like the time between now and this younger diocese this ice age time would be as thin on that like chart as a as a piece of paper. That's like it's it's just you know like it's hard to think of it because it's so long it's longer than anything that's ever been recorded and longer than humans and but geology and earth just like the timeline is your soul soul long. Yeah so it's crazy. So what would what's the best way here because I think so? I think we do you want to talk about some of these people like in a scope of what was going on in North America back then. I think we should just kind of talk about some of these animals. Yeah Yeah let's do it so I like there are a lot of them are similar to what you would see in Africa. But they're just like a little bit different so Africa has like the safari like they have like this they have cheetahs. They have hippos elephants. They have all these like cool animals that you would see On Planet Earth like. Wow that's fucking sweet where we had like our own version of that there was a North American Cheetah so that is no longer here so the Cheetah was the evidence in the theory for that. They're obviously they found bones and stuff but there's a current modern day antelope that runs around the like the The Rocky Mountain areas like Wyoming into Canada and stuff. That is like so much faster than anything that could possibly hunt it that they were like me like how. Why would anything evolved to run this fast all because he used to have to run away from a Cheetah because like Cheetahs were in in the United States And they they went extinct. You had another thing called. It was a giant beaver. So beavers like that we know are like these little kind of like raccoon kind of creepy crawly things that with the flat tail. The chew up trees make dams and they're about twenty five to forty pounds like you can easily carry a beaver. You know in a trap or walking around or whatever there were beavers back then. A hundred and fifty pounds. A hundred and fifty pounds beaver. They said that they fuck up so much with their dams because they're dams are so big that it shifted the bedrock underneath New York City so like it was like they had like these different water flows like 'cause New York City's bedrock to shift and sink in two different things because it was largely because of piva impact. You know fucking blows the most about this is I just I so badly. Want to see a picture of this thing. I've got a real life too. Grainy picture I get is recreation. Such a fucking shame. Because that's the first thing I was like man. I wish I could go to youtube. The closest thing we have is dire wolf. Like if you watch. Game of Thrones Wing. That was a real thing to it was like a wolf the size of like a great. Dane or bigger one hundred sixty pound wolf now. Have you looked much? Sorry back the beaver. Have you looked much in to the BEAVERS PROGRESSION? Like was this obviously. They're from the same family. I assume but is it like something where I would say that. Maybe the beaver like there might have been to offs offshoots or it might have just like in an evolutionary thing where the beaver shrank because there were such limited resources and it was also harder to to hide If you're a hundred and fifty pound fucking beaver that they've that they think in again and also you know you you're going to have smaller trees and things like that so there's just not as much resources for the giant beavers. Perhaps they they died out. Perhaps they evolved whereas just only the smaller ones were able to survive because of limited resources and climate change and things like that going on that like evolutionary force these changes in these beavers. That's even crazier about their like due to shrink at some point like the species just becomes a lot smaller all the all the big ones you know they need. They need more so the bigger you are the more you need. And if there's just not as much there you're GONNA die quicker. Yeah so as well. Yeah so that's where you know. That's a theory about what happened in the giant beaver and again these are these are things is not like the boogeyman or big foot. Like there's fought there's fossils there's bones. All kinds of things have been dug up That proved that these things existed like you can find him on Smithsonian Dot Com and all that so these are real things like everybody and then the other ones that people know about Pretty calmly are the woolly mammoth like giant furry elephant and then like another one. That's kind of a cousin to that as the mastodon And the thing about all these animals. What's the difference between those two? So the the woolly. Mammoth is a little bit bigger and it has these. Bigger tusks tusks are like They're like curved and rounded. So like they'll go out from your face and then make like almost like the Viking Helmet logo or like kind of a curve like that down there toss where the Mastodon Kinda go straight out from there. Raf straight out from their face and those are a little bit smaller more now out of all the animals were talking about today. Why do you think today's world is most obsessed with the woolly? Mammoth I would. Would you agree with that? I would say I would say that. I think there's probably first of all I think. People are obsessed with elephants to like. Elephants are fucking sweet and And the just the I think the image and we just don't have anything like that like we still have beavers like we still have wolves. We still have bears. That's the other one we didn't talk about. There's this thing called short faced bear. Nothing fucking thank you all right so but I think people are obsessed with the wooly mammoth because they actually have packed in ice. They've both found like basically whole woolly mammoths in different parts of like Siberia. And I want to say maybe Alaska to like preserved skin for everything There's actually a guy Ah SCIENTISTS IN RUSSIA WHO wants to try to bring them back as a means to fight global warming. Because you what you need. A lot of times are these vast. Grasslands are actually helpful To to retain carbon so like you eat the grass. The grass goes grows back and sucks carbon out of the air and puts it underground so it's the carbon sequestered and the only way to do that on. Mass is to have a giant species like this that are like free enrollment around like this vast wilderness and Siberia. So he's he's doing like trying to do experiments. I haven't gotten up there and this guy a few years but he's trying to like clone it and put it inside an elephant like take the DNA that was preserved in the ice and then the permafrost. And Bring Back Willy. Mammoth and then just put him out in Siberia. That's crazy that's fucking crazy. But like like his theory of the week explains like that makes that makes some sense worth a shot. I. I'd like to see Willy. Mammoth is there any any reason to believe this could happen? Or is this as a guy. I'm well he's like a real scientist like you know like a geneticist. And you know I can't remember what other titles he has like much smarter than I am. And so I. It's I've seen people like reject the theory based on like Like you shouldn't play God. You know stuff like that but I I haven't heard anyone come out and be like out now like this is impossible. So I've heard people reject like that wouldn't really help global warming and I've heard other people be like you shouldn't do this It might take some time because like you have to it. Would it wouldn't be like a pure bred. Woolly mammoth it'd be it'd be halfway. Mammoth half Ala Elephant Okay. Elephant is you would have. You'd put the Willy. Mammoth like fertilized egg with their DNA inside an elephant like Like in vitro fertilization. And then you eventually. You'd hope to have like a Woolly mammoth populations sustaining on. Its own but like you just it would still be part elephant. But what's to say that it's going to do what the scientists wants it to do? It's all it's all just like it's all just theories and there. There is truth to that so like when you talk about like you know people. They used to have this thing where it's like. We'll cows and beef. Production are causing global warming because cows fart so much and puts methane out into the atmosphere. And that's greenhouse gas and it's like yes but if they were like free roaming and eating grasses then that's really what it was back in the day okay. We way more these hooved animals back in the day pre global warming. Where you had you know much. Many more deer and like millions and millions of Bison and you know all the all the animals in Africa doing in the same thing fucking woolly. Mammoth mastodon eaten grasses and they think that grasslands reduce carbon emissions much more than four. Because it's light to see you know so the lateness of the graphic that color reflects more sunlight back into the atmosphere. So that cools the plant a little bit and then it much more efficiently because when the grasses are young they pull more carbon so they can grow like daybreak carbon oxygen so the younger they are the more carbon they have to. So if you're constantly like eating and then it goes down to the root regrows. It's constantly in like that baby teenager phase of grass so it sucking more and more carbon out of the atmosphere so so like the theory behind make sense. What a complex animal. Yeah and that's all that's like all these grazing animals fucked. Know this. This was so long ago. I it's all a theory like knowing that you can't testing moms are fucking dead like they would have to eat so much grass. They would be. They'd be more efficient eating grass than like elk or Anna Wolves or anything else. That grazes because they need so much more because they're fucking huge so like it's like if we if we get like a hundred of these woolly mammoth thrown around Siberia. We can kind of combat. What's going on with the melting of the permafrost? Which releases a ton of Greenhouse gases into the atmosphere warms the planet even more sort of woolly. Mammoth in the no not only mammoth is just like fucking health and it probably leaves and grasses and that's it tell you what does the woolly mammoth diddy me. You know what would enjoy with a sandwich from J. P. Roscoe what Transition Duly member. Listen here's the thing wooly. Mammoth he could get the fucking GP Grazziano Sandwich. Today on Tuesday. Oh my mistakes that's different. That's different because usually from quarantine. They're usually open Monday through Saturday. Only Sunday's off take the day and the family you know now. It's Tuesday through Saturday Jan. And when they reopened for quarantine. It was Wednesday just myself last week. I was having a hanker on Tuesday. Yes they're close so we got it on Wednesday but if you flash forward we can get that today after the show. Yes so that's right. Now listen after the show stop it. You're probably hungry. You're figuring out what's for lunch go to JP GRAZIANO DOT COM put an order mo up. Get Out of the car. Get the curbside pickup. In your delivery range get delivered. You don't even have to leave. Your House. Dawson had said easy. Just remember. Tuesday's were back on Tuesdays. Make sure you get your tin foil. What little bit of a yeah tinfoil with a little bit of JP Grazziano? I'm confident that the woolly mammoth Edouard of. Here's here today. You eat the shit so you should eat one in the woolly. Mammoth Sonner. There. You go or maybe. The short faced bear yet. Maybe the short faced bear which we could hop right into. I mean this motherfucker and you put in your blog when you wrote a blog about this January. Yeah about how what January this year last year. Let's pull actually. Yeah No it was all twenty twenty. Yeah I mean you put that like. It's a shame some of these animals are I. Don't WanNa see the short faced bear. Okay you want to hear something like a theory about the short faced bear sure terrifying but she so this thing was so fucking ferocious. Oh supposedly that you know. They have the theory about humans. Crossing the Bering Land Bridge to you know the first people come over all the first Indians coming over that they think part of the reason they never made it beyond Alaska for a long time there. Because they're like fuck that look at that bear. The bears like run around terrorizing everybody. This ferocious short faced bear. So you think about a grizzly bear right. Grizzly bears fucking enormous scary They weigh anywhere from six hundred. You know on average to as many as eight hundred pounds. Stand up there. Ten feet tall short faced bear weighed two thousand pounds. Two thousand pounds. So that's the biggest fucking bear on the planet by far and so big that we've talked about with the other animals these giant animals. They needed more to to survive more resources. Sing would would have had to have eaten thirty five pounds of meat a day just to live. That's like a diet that's insane. Yeah thirty five pounds and then it's a bear so like you don't expect it to be like houses. Bear GonNa hunt after something. Bears can run forty miles an hour. Like that's like this thing is so big and so powerful and so strong that it was just like you'd crossover there. You'd come across this thing. They smell you. They think your food they rip your fucking face off in each year for lunch. And how tall would it get? When I was out of Bag Lady. They said anywhere for like it could be as many as fourteen feet so to shacks on top of each other and there's pictures of like you know obviously on the of people standing next to it right. It's absolutely terrifying. Yeah it's terrifying. It is so we're saying how big it is but to see it in perspective of what are rebuilt one or like suburban like that's how big. It's a bad size of a car when you see like the image. I think you're talking about the bears on all fours and like a normal average size. A six foot human is up to like at shoulder like when the bears on all fours so like that thing is. There's like he'd each end just like a on. Now niece's snacker desert. Yeah this thing. It's unique as well because you you you're talking about Alaska This thing fucking roamed everywhere right. So they've found its bones so it's range like it was in Alaska so like the first people coming over with see it and had backed Russia like we're not dealing with that. They did find fossils of this short faced bear everywhere from Alaska all the way to Mississippi. So you WanNa talk about a range. That's all of North America basically it. They've found Mississippi crises the fact of bear in Mississippi we. When I read that I don't know something hit me. Mrs. It should be feral hogs only shouldn't be fucking he's fucking bear right and imagine like how you're like everywhere you. WanNa settle like how if we could just get past the bears and there's just more I just the whole country. The whole continent is just dominated by these by these bears. I'll tell you one thing Colombo gets off the fucking Santa Maria. He's he's going back right back right so fucking chance and they were got by the time he came around our were to stop right there. We've been a little long so we talked a lot about extinction today. We're going to get a little bit more of extinction tomorrow. But more importantly we're going to figure out how this happened or how the theories of how it happened so that might be even more interesting so stop right here We'll cut you off tomorrow.

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Breaking Down the Ring December 8th 2019

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1:31:05 hr | 10 months ago

Breaking Down the Ring December 8th 2019

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. WWW DOT PODCAST DETROIT DOT com for information five seven again. That's Sean Illegal. Dot Com slash workshops or call. Five eight six two seven three seven one five seven in a week. That really has no build up to any type of paper view even though witch because God damage just less than fourteen days away. WWe decided on match is all you need need to know on top of that. You had some fun finishes in annex t you had the lexicon of less humping on in a e W and we're GONNA get into all that and more this week as we think You don't know what ought all year six JER. Ask Ask Hey. This is professional wrestler and professional podcast. There cold Kabuki Boom Cabana. My name is Jill across the smell. Chef scarlet foretell. What's up guys Lucian Bryan Cave? This is Ryan pro wrestling. Tease savvy or not listening to the art of wrestling wrestling. But you made a decent joints. Because you're listening you are now listening to and you're listening you're listening to the breaking down the down the ring breaking down the ring breaking down the road breaking down the Dow which true it's Tantrum Ladies and gentlemen you are listening to the most inappropriate pro wrestling show in the mother fucking world. You're listening to our breaking down the ring way way crew. Not Nick fucking back winkle and I am the all monkey one the mikey himself the guy who has no future because you can tell. It's not bright. He's not wearing shades. Mike Welcome back. Hey Man I appreciate you guys leave you wondering for me because obviously been John Cena this month because you can see me you can kind of see me as long as the lights are on. You can see me you smile or on the new iphone. The dark MoD was sought dog there. You are. You're available in all your HD glory. That's used Eric. I'm locked into new IPHONE. Yes you are. You are no longer a character that has to be purchasing. DLC It finally freedom. I I WANNA say. What's up the Devon Devon from three counts is watching and he says hi guys and then he talked? Seattle monitors says making Nikola. Hope you don't take the ASS whipping I'm about to put you on in this fantasy playoff personally He's the number one seed I'm the number four seed and mother fucker. WILL YOU NOT NAPA leave. Upset alert bid you bought to get Bam Bam. No sign got two. Who weeks though mobile Fokker this episode breakdown of rain brought to you by this green gang? Not The people that make it. Fountain spill counting crew down to poo round of to Loudon spew trout in Deuce Auro Bryant Right Because we're from Detroit is what we do with battle ramp chicken Tikka panel ramp Napkin. Lampkin got awesome rap CD right there. That was Kristalina during his eminem impression. But okay whatever so look man. There was a bunch of wrestling that happened this week. NWEA is going into into the fire pay per view which is officially done more buys than NWEA seventies pay per view with still a week to go. NAH The fucking show. Is this coming Saturday. We're going to talk a little bit about that. How the NWEA is still providing one of the better products? You know over everything else like look. There's a lot of talk about the Wednesday night wars. A W I T W whenever And how that's probably probably the best night of wrestling and I'll I'll agree with that you know because of the two products that are on it and while Nwea power to better than one NWEA power. Our is just like forty fifty minutes. You know real quick you got impact on access. Then that is going from eight to ten on Tuesday nights and it'll be dark and I looked awro different thing. It's they're trying to include it there. I guess what died. I'll be very honest. no-one watch right so anything uh-huh true. You always fighting for the dark. Just let it be known there. It is assumed but if you're looking for the overall term overall in fun in wrestling product it's going down for the most part that is your Wednesday night edges out Tuesday basically because at the time that they have you know sure you've got two hours of impact and you have the fifty minutes of Nwea but you got four hours in a w an exte- and they're really fucking going at it and it's Tuft to chew marching them both at the same time you they pull you each in their own way. Okay so much no even at that because then you're still only paying attention to one. Oh like this more so I'm looking down here looking fair the best way to watch it obviously is back back and that's we'll have to do that especially us when we have to talk about it. We can't just float through things but NWEA anyway is putting out a product that is a slow burn. It's great because is is not something that they are just shoving down your throats. It is something that Nwea is giving you in small doses. So it's not too much but at the same time you want more snack. I can't even say it's a light snack. 'cause Goddamn it's it's a fat appetite. I think it's I think it's like a small plate at a restaurant and I'm not talking the appetizer swamp if you go to one of those restaurants the fine dining restaurant and you feel amazing fucking plate of food but it's like four ounces and you're like Oh man I can totally have another entree of this. You know because it is that it is that good and it's something to wear their also being very smart with it on the the pay per view side of it into the fire is twenty dollars May Have just gone up to twenty-five but nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine for an NWEA NWEA. Pay Per view is what I paid. I paid for preorder twenty if you order of the day. I don't know if there's a day of or if you had to like you have to like tonight. Oh Yeah you're right. Yeah Yeah so so that. So that might be today that after this podcast fucking GonNa cost you twenty four ninety nine to watch an Nwea pay-per-view debut but that's still not fifty sixty dollars that aws asking you for That's either view honestly like it is something and and this is on TV so it's something that everyone can get but at the same time fight. TV is doing it for a w overseas. You got the bleacher. Report live and again forty nine ninety nine if I'm not mistaken for an A. W. Show so they're giving you get six six matches for into the fire including you're GonNa see the rock and Roll Express. Defend Their Ninth Tag Team Title Championship Rain. But it's something along the lines is of. It's just smart business. They're not forcing it down your throat. But at the same time they're giving you enough of a product that you WanNa see more toward twenty bucks. It doesn't seem like a lot for the show and not only doesn't that seem like a lot in this streaming age because everyone's like oh ninety nine a month I get just about everything you know. Oh Even A. WW In life is only nine ninety nine a month You got impact on plus nine nine. Yeah so all of these. I have no surrender. All of these streaming services are going at ninety nine and then you see this and smack in the face forty nine ninety nine just to watch A W pay-per-view four times a year. Now Okay let's say we're doing that. That's two hundred dollars. That's it's not the ten bucks a month that you're spending on one of the major networks or even the minor networks which equates to one hundred and twenty dollars a year that that is eight hundred fucking dollars more for four shows not a network of things yup four shows that. Let's be very honest. Where whelming helming not underwhelming not overwhelmed? whelming wellm they were there. Were parts of those things that you're like man that was a great match and then other partially why the fuck is what. What is this going on? We've had our differences with AWS enterprises for AWS. But it's not like you were sitting there going. I got got all of my money's worth for this paper view and that at the same time we're not the fan was VW. We Love Them. We're not talking them you know. We'll nitpick the things is that we nitpick but it's not like a w can do no wrong in our eyes like apparently it fucking happens now you know and we'll get into some of that but NWEA is giving you a product that makes you want more and gives you more at a decent price. It's like so let's go back to that thing you had that main plate in four ounces like fuck man I want more. And they're like you know to add on another play all you gotTa do pay half the price for second one and you're like what in and that's what people are doing. I got it Nikki. Said you're going to get a twenty dollars price. It's a smart by. They also entered the also interview. A podcast or podcast has a contest going on like pretty much answered that one we get a free. Yeah and the disabled you tell us what do you think the best match on a car. It will be an why and I did so. I actually entered that contest. Got A reply back and I'm one of the last three people people really and you can fuck in it. I have a possibility of wedded house. Man was three thirty three percent dog. That's way better than one four. I came in like sit next. Not Right now right like your future is bright to me. We understand why you're wearing shades. I got lucky finally manages done wants to go. Hey thanks man. Oh you lucky I meet. You never get lucky. You just know dude wants you anymore. You're so women you thinking about the star trams slow practice slow-burn and then burn. Then you'll it'll give them next course half off lead a little goose devon goes. Aren't you guys going to the pay per view or tapings this weekend and I was we worse. Many and I were going to go but unfortunately extenuating circumstances with my daughter and her schoolwork meant. I have to stay here so unfortunately we will not be attending the the pay per view or the tapes but we wish huge Well this and hopefully everything goes well to our good friend Maureen for NWEA. Obviously Lagaan and Billy Corgan as well those are your three men Laguna and Billy Corgan. Obviously get a lot of the spotlight. Because they're the you know the outside faces but the director of Operations Marine is a friend of ours she buster asks for that company to and I think that's our tree all right there. Oh you know what I'm saying by a social media of course because those are the inside people that know so you know and the rest are saying it and stuff it throws into her name. Okay but let's say for them. You know the bottom line is there is a those are gears that are working and without either three of those does. It doesn't turn each connects to the next thing that makes it work. You know. Most things work like that you pull out one of those years Lagos corden goes or or more ingles. That thing's GonNa Work Wonky and I think they are putting on some of the What are the best products right now? Period so yes talking about Nwea into the fire a question Mark Verse Trevor Murdoch in a singles match. Everyone's really high on question Mark Hot. Yeah Super Hot Cut I. There's also speculation. That was that was who he is like They've gotTA chain stores. beat up first week of I saw. It is and spoiler they. It was really funny when they were showing all of the lead up for the title match and and I was like you know you just right after showing a question mark thing you showed. The guy's GonNa quit fucking ends like putting a picture of Superman and Clark Kent next to each other going. I mean the hair and the glasses. He's hiding in plain sight right so yes question. Mark Verse Trevor. Murdoch is announced as a singles. Those Mash Obviously Trevor Murdoch. The Guy who's crazy enough to strap a bucket nevermind Next up next is women's tag team match with Allison K.. Michigan native to her. And Ashley Vauxhall. Taking on the team of either Molina and under Rosa Molina Mardi Bell or Thunder Rosa and Marty Bell It's yet to be decided which of those three and we'll be in Alan Kay and actually vox versus Molina Thunder Rosa or Mardi Bell. Then there's a singles match ally drake versus Ken. And and he Li- drake. I could have done that. But Anderson's the core engines name and then there is a best two out of three falls match for the NWEA world heavyweight championship where each guy got to pick the referee. They did this. They set this precedent with cody. Rhodes Nick like all this. Brian Hefner is James Storms. Pick and Tim Storm. Is Nick aldus. Pick for the referee. If this match goes to a Third Fall Paul a coin flip will happen and heads or tails. That referee will take on the third fall of the match. Then there is a triple threat for match for the end of you way national championship. Colt Cabana defending his title against Aaron Stevens and Ricky starks. Great fucking stocks research. One of the most exciting the guys on good to watch them and then of course Natalie's will the tag team championship match of the Rock and roll express defending defending their titles. Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson are taking on the wildcards Thomas Latimer and Royce Isaacs and a rematch Devon wants to call in yet man You know the number to the studio call reasonable cultish show shits about to get serious serious one hundred percent Devon. Yeah man we you got about ten minutes for you. Because we got the smacktalk showdown guys calling in to talk to them about their lewd attitude product as well so Devon feel free to you call in for ten minutes. It shouldn't know not open. I'm glad you said that because I would not have noticed that it was open my bet. So yes the NWEA product again like we said this is a six match card but it is a stack card in probably give them all a lot. More time usually get on top of that. They've already said that. This is going to be something done. Different Lagaan had gone on twitter. Twitter in state is like w power. These people come out. They're going to have entrance music on the pay per view and the guy was like yes. The pay per views will have a completely different. I feel then all of the NWEA power episodes as they should studio a studio recorded. Mrs Peiris Very is probably GonNa be live. So you're GONNA have like Catelli production type deal like everything else it's incoming incoming call from Devon. What's up de ever? Hey cell phone on speakerphone phone. Hey everybody lives in Devon. What's what's up my brother the same color? Smith's you you know that no one else on this show would say brother of the same color. What's up rather have a different color slip that one? I am not ten enough to slip that one in. He's in the waist now by trying to get away with them. Oh and then it stops at the beltline. Actually I'm like I'm like you know one seventeenth black and that's right around my beltline that's it. It's not what you think is way way less than what you think. Way Less way less Obviously we're talking about NWEA now we know Through all the controversy that WWF. Had you've kind of backed off from watching the product because you don't WanNa support reported and understandably so have you been watching the NWEA product. See it as part of the reason why I was able to back away from wwe because outside of wwe there's so much great wrestling on right now. NWEA is definitely one of watch. W wait every week. I I love it. Man Throwback Fail old school days. It's a different Phil I love it. I'm definitely looking forward to show. This weekend is so you have you already purchased the show. So here's the thing I'm actually going to be in Detroit this weekend coming up there for the Shine and they battle Taiji show. I'll go ahead plan that Saturday so I'll probably end up catching Sunday Somehow but if I if I wasn't GonNa be busy that Saturday I would definitely I am going to watch it though I'll be honest. I'm going to be as Saturday. I work every Saturday. But they do give you the replay. Saab you're watching that. NWEA probably before come into show to have a conversation about next week. Oh no next week. The lions game at home. I won't be here homeless bullshit. Who Love you what what is really standing out to you devin about the NWEA right now it serve as the starter or just the fact? That is good storylines that's built out over a long period of time. It might be a combination both. I'm not I'm not sure what it is. I just know every Tuesday. I'm watching it no matter what it's are you now. Are you trying to watch it. Live or you just watching it when you can catch it Well we're schedules Kinda want Ya. I tried to catch that before I go to work then. I'll probably what AWA dark. What's up at work but Got To catch you. Know not too long after up Is there anything else outside of the WW that is truly standing out to you. Like how are you feeling about Awa As As as show. I'm at a point right now where I'm kind of waiting until like the beginning of a year to really really make a heart on aws. I'm enjoying what I'm saying. But you know to say okay. This is definitely the best one best cubbies always on the air or the bigger real hard judge on giving them until the beginning of the year to do so but I say good things still production things I gotta work out Awesome some continuity things figure out like with your ranking system. But I'm enjoying what I've seen so far all right and Impact he paying a lot of tension impact. Hannity back actually I think there are pay per view. Hard to heal is going to be Dallas. Try and make that show okay. I I'm definitely enjoying what What they've been doing changes that they've made over the years and Deal with access putting on channel we can actually find so. I'm definitely looking forward to more impact So what do you think who do you believe right. Now is the hottest star in in wrestling outside of. WWe With everything that you've been watching this airfoil. Yeah for a while. I think cody is. How does baby facing the business right now? I would say hottest he'll but Somebody that I'm I'm really you know keeping my eye on right now is a test blanche. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they're gonNA do with this story Whether she's going to stay she's going to go somewhere else. Say What Mardi. He's grown wait what he's GonNa do. But I will say Qodian Jericho prior to hottest outside of me right now. Jericho and cody. Nice man. Many what are you talking your head at that one is there. I agree with the cody. Cody thing is the hottest face but I think semi cal has probably the hottest heel professional wrestling right now just because the the work done over the last two years in general along speaks for itself off he's had one of the PWI matching a year with Tessa bladder and he's also had his were his. He'll work it would impact the fact. He's able to get heat no matter how good he is. An rain is a testament to how good of a hill he is and he take shots at everybody. Like eight impact World Championship. He took a shot at Jericho's a little bit of bubby set out here drinking beer. 'cause bucks pays for bitches. Bubbly bubbly is for bitches. Yeah paraphrasing but but he's he's. He's taking shots at just about any and everybody is outside of like several shots but nothing like not name dropping or anything like that kyle comments. And who's his bum on on the line We kind of stole your Co Host Dog Day cycle remember. That's that's fine. I get it. He he should be jealous. Because you know GonNa be jealous you went. You went from He went from knockouts and three counts to ring breaking down. That's just how it goes dog noon. Sometimes the allure of the ring. Briton makes everybody break it down. That's a euphemism for Smith. He's asshole the whole break the smit down And so Devon is there anything that you have been watching that obviously not a lot of people are talking talking about what you think should have a lot more play in the mainstream conversation of professional wrestling. What you're saying I'm I'm here in Dallas now MSW Is actually going to have a show here the day before impacts pay per view. And I've already bought got my ticket for that show I'm trying to check out more of W I've watched it here and there but It's Kinda hard to find them the Times I've actually found them on. A thing is being sports on a little bit more. I'm definitely checking them out and ring of honor to you man. I'm I'm interested in seeing what was going on. Ring viner Dave kind of become like the the loss steps child in this whole No reshuffling wrestling companies. I don't WanNa see what they're gonNa do to respond to aid. W An impact and all these other companies stepping up. Yeah L. W. he just released Teddy Hart So just you know jumped into a little bit of the conversation you know with the release of a guy which is weird usually as the signing of guys that make a lot of people talk but at the release of Teddy Hart Teddy Teddy Teddy fucking heart. The release of him definitely brought a little bit. More wwl agree. I'm L. W. caught my eyes when Larry Dallas went there for a little bit For their podcast. And I was like Oh and so you can find that on television. I agree ring of honor. I mean it's really difficult defined ring of honor but you can F- five one F is one at midnight on Fridays Or technically Saturday morning at twelve. Am I guess. Ah teeters on one hundred inbetween Friday and Saturday. There's that midnight hour and that's you can catch bring home in Devon man thank. He's so much for calling in and we really appreciate talking to you brother Definitely maybe calling a another day or even later in the show because we got the smacktalk showdown guys game that we fucking love. Now we fucking love. Those guys are about to call him and have a conversation about their loot attitude back but Devon thank you so much for calling in brother. We'll talk to you a little bit later. All right man and Don't don't take this personally. I can't take anything personally when it doesn't happen now. Badri Mon Amen and Amen. The doctor King had a dream in a Luby's doing right now. So you later brother. I don't get wow braised it. That's not bad stereotype. Their views and opinions expressed ed or totally making even the person who I one hundred percent the waiver initiator so yes ask like Devin was saying man major league. MSW Major League wrestling. You got ring of honor obviously and other little companies. I mean look the new Japan kind of fell away from the conversation. Even though they're still doing big things you know Jericho still involved in them you know he's still doing things even though he's an. Aws Main Guy. He's still doing things with new Japan wrestling new Japan dropping a statement. I think vice president even saying that. Look we're not saying we're not willing to work with anybody with things have to align and we have to pay attention to our current partnerships and things like that and see what works best l. l.. Right now smells uh-huh like Japan award right now and ring of honor. One hundred percent is still pissy at a e W as is most of the wrestling world. Look man you Kinda fucked some things up by starting up Look you can be the fucking baby facing the fans is but there's a lot of backstage heat on Awa in the wrestling world. And it's not just because of the product they're putting on. You fucked a lot of people over with this. You know And that's fine to an extent and but it it's by we all said you know it'd be like starting a brand new company. You pillaged a lot of talent. It's not just budget cuts it's not like not signing with them like those those fucking five. Guys Cody Kenny. Hangman and the bucks would have signed with. WWe That's all that would have happened. Yeah those five guys. WWe In all these other people that are being promoted and everything would have stayed in these indie things but by doing starting a new company and bringing in all of these people even currently when when you bring in more and more people which is not bad because you're putting diversity diversifying your bonds but go they would say financial diversify your boss Nigger but you're now all these other other companies are starting to lose people they have star power and it's really funny because like there's a another UK promotion just closed you know and in a lot of people are giving heat and X T K for this because they signed people to exclusive contracts array progresses and one place they farm progress. Yes what are you talking about. C K farm hours so another one of these UK promotions close and a lot of people are giving it to the annex t WBZ eastern brand. But let's not forget. Aws Point people into man you know. They're not doing so bad as to pulling people I don't think they're signing signing exclusive kind. I mean obviously you have to be available for these dates period. But they're pulling people as well. Let's not pretend that this is all. WWE ANNEX T or anything. Mrs It's going around it's going around you know and so therefore everything's being pillaged right now by the startup of new company. A new major company that was doing ten thousand seats for the first couple of shows at pay per views and tried to do it with their weekly show dynamite and it's fizzling fast man like. It's it sucks right because you want to see this you want to see that. AWS still holding true. Awa eventually going to have to go. Yeah let's go to a couple of five thousand Carina let's go because currently your having a larger blackout area then the NFL gives you for a non sold out. The game can't catch. TV Won't show if you're in that current market like the line. I didn't I didn't know that W did that. The no no no that like the blackout like opening our tarps. Oh yeah there's nobody fucking there so we're going to throw all probably the worst one this week. So yeah you guys have all trying to sell ten thousand seats. You're sending a lot six thousand six dollars and fifty five hundred hundred. And here's what's blows my mind right. You have some people that are the Awa diehards on twitter going. We failed. And you're like would it mean you failed the we didn't rally the troops enough for psych. You CAN'T I. I appreciate that kind of loyalty right but why been two months. Why do you have this loyalty to something? That is it for the fans sure but it has to have a much broader scope of things for it to truly pull in the audience. You know we were talking talking about assess what I mean by. They feel just seats. Are there or the ratings when the ratings came out before because they obviously didn't come out the next day for thanks because it was Thanksgiving Day for two Wednesdays Wednesdays ago but A. W. Lost again for the pre and the post survivor series show was there should and this week they. AWB by six thousand fans the numbers right. Yeah graduations. You know math this week. Awa Poignant eight hundred fifty one thousand years next pulling in eight hundred and forty five thousand viewers you you know. Obviously it's much closer right now and it's probably going to flip flop depending on what you're getting next week is being the triple threat for the number one contender shift for the NFC championship. You might see in an extreme numbers. Go Up Oh yeah because you had because of how hot CIAMPA Lee and Ballard. You're right and that's your fucking top draw next week it is. It is the week after. Because they're going to have the the women and the Mens Yup that match is going to happen that same night. Yep Wow in Jericho facing on jungle boy Mr. We'll get into that in a second. So yes there's a lot of conversations going on smitty you obviously you and Joe were always the guys who pay more attention to the independent scene. Have you started paying less attention to the independent scene. Now that there's so much mainstream wrestling to watch I pull myself a little bit more away. From New Japan array of honor honor still kind of come in and out on her but like the the lag is like the whole farm and of I was like some of these places especially I mean they had this conversation. Abou- reminder probably the worst getting farmed out of would they w thing and see and all this stuff. AWS radio monitors like star power right now. So they're like and star power and it's in part of it like there are guys still. I like an they keep me invested in so enterprises. There's like Mardi scroll getting ready to his conflict being up and he he's probably have to go That's one guy I will follow and it's going to pull me away a little bit more away from it But the rebound has a good habit of billy stars like Johnson Gresham. I WANNA see more of him Shane Taylor even though he's is probably his way out as well Guys like jellies. You've got the briscoes are they is not that they don't have Quality wrestlers over there MHM is just about the ring of honor has a habit of the needs from also sells better need to promote themselves talent. Better New Japan like I'm still following pretty much. Just a bullet club over there right now like Jay White is your intercontinental champion Last last hope is your United States champion over there Then you know shits about the main event right now late. I don't care about Okada how'd Anymore Okada. I find that Okada's only as good opponent. You give them right now. Rescue Writing Code Obuchi. Who won did you did you want? And they're not doing anything everything I've watched nothing interesting about that match right now. Tetsuya Naito feud him or is he championship with a j white. And that's probably the most interesting thing they have on new Japan right now from what I've seen those far and is I'm invested but not as much as I am stuff like impact and an and a w also is so much to watch as well that part of getting lost in the shuffle. Because I tried to get back into AAA lay but to many clubs too many clowns. It's like six fucking cloud-based characters a week and AAA and I'm like no. This is nick. Obviously you've gotten out of the wwe realm only every now and then of watching by coming becoming a regular part of the show. Is there anything that has caught your eye outside of what is mainstream like you no impact. NWEA WWE WS or. Is that your just really concentrating on this right now just because it. This is what you have to pay attention to for the show No I mean yeah I gotTa Watch this stuff for the show no but it's easily accessible between www NWEA I I want to watch. Impact I just have a hard time watching everything that I currently watch and I would still watch everything that I do for the show. Oh I watch it even if I wasn't on the show but it's hard to fit all that in so I wanNA watch it. She did forty three. Who knew it makes his hand? It's hard to to get it all you know and I want to you. I know you guys talk about ring of honor and shows like New Japan which they're portrayed as some of the better in in ring action especially New Japan. I just. It's not something that I'm seeking out only because it's not as easily accessible. Could I find it sure. But it's not something I can just flick on and go you. You know. This is something that obviously. We haven't gotten into much because of the fact that we usually have so much to talk about whereas while there is a lot of stuff to talk about the things that happened this week and Russell we do kind of want to get into this finally with not much being built for stuff It's just kind of recap shows which we can weave in and out of but with the amount of wrestling that you have right now it is such is a buffet. You Walk Up and you get to pick and choose what you want when you want it. Sure you can watch things live but like we said and w power is live for that hour at six zero five and but if you don't catch it then watch it whenever it's a youtube show so if you do. DVR for any of the other ones you can watch later. You know. You don't have to which that's what I do. I can't watch all of these products. What they after all Hulu Yeah? It's it's something that's it's very accessible to many fans and that is the purpose for this. Is You want your you want wrestling. You want all of this no matter what it is to not feel like a chore and sure some of it does washing some Ross. Had I've been feeling like a Chore Smack Down To Mostly raw raw for everybody which is really bad to say. Zafer that flagship show and it might be the only one. That's three hours and they got to put so much into it. You know and we can constantly talk about the time but at the same time and when raw it was really good it was three there was three rows back in the early two thousands and you were watching every bit of that going. This is great. You know so. It's not like they haven't done. An amazing MES an amazing run of three hour shows now like one or two like no they used to have. They had years where you were just. You weren't talking about it. You know on how much it is you when they first said we're going to go to three hours like Oh shit that's a lot. And then they provided Ryan Tabet say they have it in them to make to make great but it seemed like they'd just for somebody in your lack on this is not pulling through at this point. Yeah there's there's a disconnect right there and no one can fully tell tell what it is because there's a lot of people that WANNA throw it on. Vince McMahon put into man's provides some of the best and still has his head like okay. The smackdown that was written after after tour that lasts Saudi show. Everyone was like Oh aaa chat his hand all the blades smackdown because AAA it came out that Vince wrote that whole show on the plane back when he found out this superstars. We're GONNA make Vince wrote that show in triplets. It's executed and not just execute. Vince was there you us. This was the first one and Vince. was there Vince. was there wrote the fucking show so obviously put things together with AAA. But we've always said W W puts on some of the best products when they're back to the fucking wall. Yeah so so while you could say. Vince is out of touch. Vincent lost it. Vince put on the best smackdown. You ever watch this year in the last ten years. The lot of people are talking about Vincent that with his back to the wall on a plane ride home at a fucking Napkin. Probably highly doubt that message reclamation so so you you have to you kinda have to still say Vince has it but Vince has it. When he doesn't have too much thought vintages go? Go probably GONNA be fucking beautiful over our Abou- so prophets is an province is fucking amazing so we hope raw gets better but while we've mentioned some of the stuff that is on the outskirts of it let's talk about these shows shows. These means shows as a whole nick as you're watching them what's standing out most to you every week Being a wrestler. Promo or something that you just like to see one of these things that are doing very well each week next. He's entering work doc. Even though I wasn't thrilled this week with the show as a whole it's very clean. It's hard hitting its I'm I find myself very much paying attention to the whole entire match. Most of the time The promos are really good. They're not they don't run too long. There's not too many of them. It's not getting crammed down throat I liked the showcase of their talent. As far as you know like you guys you got guys like keithly right now. WHO's one of the for me? One of the hottest dudes and WWe right now. And and I just think the in ring work first and foremost but not overloading us with promos that run too long. Many I was agree with Nick about the showcase a talent and the way that they showcase talent is not as outside maybe baby of the undisputed heir who you pretty much see every week. You're not getting no one particular person's getting crammed down your throat but is that what stands out to you. The most of things that are What what does the reason? No of any of the mainstream product that we're watching oh standing the most More sold the way impact kind of does their impact kind of runs their thing like they let the way. It was one of the few places where I see. They are showing equality with entering. Like you got blanche. Choose Ashley Vying for the World Championship. But then you've also seen women like Jordan grace go against man you've seen is and the diversity and once again there also. NFC where is not every week you see a certain people like you. And I talked about how rich Swann put on that amazing match two weeks ago. Forty minutes in the ring forty minutes in the ring. And you didn't see a thought like didn't have the throwback show and like this week week. Same Willie Mac and delete up to something that may be happening at hard to kill their Do a whole tacking open thing. The suze about that far to find out who's saviour for detecting champions that hard to kill well like he's pretty much everybody saying good magical mash in he like he really had no big part in the show. Just a little the Charlotte get basically putting on a good match type. Deal Sea Tessa BLANCHARD'S GONNA fight Nick Gage in an holds barred match in January. NCW Yup I I just W I C W New York okay. Whatever there is a G C W but they're they're they're wrestling at the IC? W I was asking thing I did not again no holds barred Nobody holds barred match. Also the way that the impact uses the way to use their legends or the legends or veterans in in a company They actually use them sometimes. Alleged to go eventually over sometime most of the time they use these veterans to actually get the The Newark are no-name talent over Also a big fan of x division. I'm where you're going on way too much. I said one thing in your the utilizing the talent. Okay so for me. The one things that is standing out the most of any of these mainstream is something that Devon mentioned earlier in his Jerko because Jericho as your face of Ahe W is spectacular. Tackler what he's doing to bring up the people in the inner circle to get people More involved more recognition more name value vert and the things that he's doing with talent that he's facing you know when he's Scorpios are scoring several. Oh Scott yes can get it out. Thank you Smitty Scorpio Sky you've got jungle boy coming up in a couple of weeks. The you know the line where Lucci sources like you know Marco Michael stunts small for his age and then jackals like small for any age. You know it's there. It's comments like He. There's moments that Jericho is. You can tell that he's just having the time of his fucking life wrestling right. Now he is going. He's in a company where he's got a lot of creative freedom but he's not just given a lot of creative freedom. It's a lot of creative freedom that he's able to put in a main part of a show you know it's not like something we're like. Okay go ahead and try this. You know when he had to fight with triple h for the festival of friendship because no. I talked to Vince last week. This how he said it could be done Jamila just like knowing. I'm going to call Vince. And the you know he's Concetti. Coffins Vince like yeah. Let let them do it pal. It's gotTa be good Shit. It was great fucking segment and that was Jericho's creative control on full display and also. Yeah but the bottom line is he still had to fight day of on the show hours before it was supposed to go down to get what he wanted. I highly doubt he's doing that right now. He is saying. Hey let's do this and they're like yeah. That sounds pretty cool. If I can do it you know but only problem with it is is creating a lot of inconsistencies again. uh-huh you know. Jungle boy is an own eight overall wrestler. And he's getting a title shot shot near nine title. I thought it was a title title. He's he's got his opponent for his last match. I thought I thought that see. That's my fault because I thought that he was stating that. He had to wrestle here to defend the title one more time in two thousand eighteen per Contra nineteen twenty one thousand nine yeah so he was obligated to one more match. Okay all right so I- retract that statement but again so now he's going to be facing jungle boy so it's again right back to what I was saying is he's putting over other talent. That's one thing that I completely agree with you on on and it's frustrating because there's a lot of people that are on these You know the Internet wrestling community that when you saw. WC WC when you saw inner circle forum in Jericho made comments like Oh. I've got these guys back in. You know you know were close and this that and the other people were bashing him like you've known them for like five five minutes and you know okay I get when you're looking at it on the surface but Jericho's at a point in his career where not only is he over. His one of his main focuses to help other younger talent. Get the fuck over and he's doing that seminars. Where twenty three and I think a a lot of people are forgetting that these these people that are just there to no matter what he w does he just got fucking Basha just because they can but they're forgetting the purpose the the right behind the reason of a lot of this shit you know and he is? He's doing a great job not only keeping himself over as the he'll that company in the face but he's helping these dudes yeah jungle boyzone eight. But he's going to help that dude look good right you know. And he's GonNa put them in a com- a formidable type of look like you're going to probably going to get a real good match later Darby Allen yes Darby Allen or against Scorpio Sky you know. We look a lot of people talk. About how Great Scorpio. Sky Is in when he wrestled in the tag team and s you. He didn't get a lot of look at the singles. Part of Scorpio. Sky You did you know. It's Gerry Cole. Right now is probably probably the greatest thing in wrestling because of what he's doing for it as a whole showing that these promos can be cut. You know unscripted if you're good enough you're Jerko it was really funny One of the greatest things I feel that jerk was ever said was that when he was in. WWE and they're talking about guys trying to get guys over. It was like send guys out there for three minutes in between main event and raw. Aw to cut a promo unscripted. Just see where they do to get over. See if you can find a guy who has that charisma and if you find that guy pushed that guy because that is your entertainment guy if they fall flat on their face okay. That's fine and then you pull him back. No one's you know it's fucking sure people because the social media but it's going to help someone get over or heard of them. They have to come back and they have to fight for it and that's three minutes. You go give people three minutes to see what they can do. People got all the the fucking three minutes in the world right now in Asia you you know and I guarantee that part Jericho sure cody and the bucks Kenya the VP's and Tony Kahn. or I'll putting it over. You're putting things into perspective and the backstage thing but you know they're talking to crush Jericho Chris. Jericho is a huge grizzled veteran in wrestling. And he is putting on some of the best things right now and you can't knock him for at all and I agree with you make you know you brought it up there the people that are fucking fucking anti W I don't get it even I with all of my nitpicking and you know going into here like a goal the referee there's way too many no counts. Stauba I have I will always sit back and praise what needs to be praised you nitpick other companies accompanies the Nixon every fucking Yemeni. You know I mean hell man we talk about how much we love. NWEA my God did we fucking hate when cornet stuff was going on. You know I it. It happens but the way they handled. It was wonderful. Okay he's gone. You know coronet made his fucking comments on his podcast and stuff and there was a great he left. They showed showed him love and people are giving them Shit for saying thank you and it's like you can't give anyone shit for being a freezing to yeah about ending like if fucking like okay. We've had Kelly on the show we've had Orlando Christopher on this show. We thank you to all of the things that they have done for us. You know each one of them brought different perspective Orlando with India with the actual wrestler perspective. Kelly with the women's perspective. Thank you so much. Do we give them shit in fun ways that we gave them shit face to face on the show look at their chest you know but a Jewish around but the bottom line is is. Is You appreciate what people have done for you and your show regardless of how they left Cornet fucked up but cornet fucked the line. He's been saying for years. That started when the whole starving Marvin fucking shit with South Park was going on right. It just didn't age well. There are the things that don't age well and when you run back to the well too much that's what happens. You know But these accompany Jericho is SPEC fucking Takkula I. I can't say enough. Great things about Chris Jericho as a wrestler as performer. As has any kind of hiccup and at the same time did you hit up while you were drinking. Yeah and you just dribbled many then swallow suspender many quits. And now you know all right. We'll start with you at this one of all of the wrestling that we have to watch of all of this stuff. What is the one thing that you wish was being done? Better the smackdown in general outside I have really have no edison. You're watching slack now. Most weeks really pretty. I really light. I've always like Whoa nate head. Did the whole draft the NFL smackdown boned in that draft. And ever since I watched some acknowledged as much of a chore as Watching Raw. 'cause I have. There's nothing interesting for me owner right now. Not the King Corbin look the oil the King Corcoran Roman. Storyline is just getting more ridiculous. Every week just like the whole Lonzo Roussev and adding Kevin Owen. Suet now who is snuffing about smackdown pop into me and making me want to watch and see what's going on here nick. Well I will say that. There's nothing about Rar smackdown that makes me say I got a fucking watches tonight I just I'm GonNa Watch it. I will say that raw for me is the one. Aw The thing that needs the improvement I think three hours is too long Because there's a lot of shit that just filler. That doesn't really need to be there. And I I. It's like a roller coaster. Like I don't WanNa Watch it but then I start watching them like okay cool. I'm watching RAW And then it just Kinda goes down and there's something that kind of goes up and then there's the down and then there's more down and then there's more down than there's an up and it just it's too much of a roller coaster is not consistent. Insistent and three hours is just way too fucking much do you think with the signing of John Morrison. Johnny Nitro Tro. Whatever the fuck is going to go is Back is this something that is possibly helpful to that. Because I mean back in the day he was one of the more exciting. The people who watch Do you think that could help. Raw or smackdown. Whatever show he goes to And make it more interesting to you. Nick Junior yeah definitely. He was a good run in ring worker. I didn't really care for his character. But do can wrestle. You know and that's just as important for me. You know I mean you can be awesome awesome character and suck in the ring and then we'll good are you so yeah. I definitely think it'll help either. A show for sure for me. The thing that is lacking the most end it seems to be a theme for all of us is the W. we w programming's engaging keep watching this type thing. I will say the best thing. They have going for them right now. Is this real slow-burn of Seth rollins into a he'll I think this is great They're in a slow. Burn it down the alluded related. So I'm but so it's not like there's all hope is lost you know. There's there's obviously things that they have are doing really well but agreed for products overall as a whole yeah I sneeze. That was his knees. I held in tigard gestures now medicine not they gonNA go take some your face no take some for yours already. Have you welcome. I'm taking something nine to. It's not just vodka as water. But he's not just water and it's five o'clock somewhere worst fucking thing. Here's a bartender anyway. So so they are trying to do not only giving a lot of attention to one thing right so the other things Kinda fall away each episode has it's has it's one thing and right now seth rollins is raw in a way that you finally WanNa give a shit about the seth rollins thing and and smackdown. I guess it's kind of Roman. I mean they're giving a lot of stuff to the scene and very white and things like that but the folks are moreover Corbin but even at the same time. It's like nothing's really set apart as what is being focused based on more because it's it's not like there's either both of them are running themes through smackdown right they go from you know major parts of title and everything like that Roman With Corbin you WANNA see them. You WanNA see corporate loses. I guess I it just seems like they're going back too much. They don't know how to spread it in the story lines to where you're following a few different things like the best fucking Shit on a show is here's your main storyline for some but there's also back end stuff that is featured just as much enjoying it all you know and I just wish that. WWe would pull that in a little bit more Y- like I said that's all of us are agreeing wishing that we had more out of a situation of a product that has so much fucking raised on man and has your rights so much talent such a diverse roster so much greatness was bright that you're going knowing as kind of whittling away. Yeah and you're kind of losing interest in everyone and that's a problem because you're trying not to lose interest and it's not like they're really pulling in more than what they were so you know we all we talk about the ratings and stuff like that but smackdown was is pulling for average before Fox little over two little under two million viewers. You know now. Two point three of the last four two of the last four weeks that two point three two point five for the episode before survivor series. Two point three three episode after survivor and it was only a two point four. This week. You're not doing much better with a bigger audience which goes to show. I know that your show is lacking in a keep me their environment and without that that's the detriment to any television show any series. Anything I don't give a shit. What your past is? It's GonNa hurt many. You talked about all the way. Impact is utilizing their talent with Tessa. Tessa blanchard having a shot at the impact world's championship. And now Sammy Callahan. He had to face motherfucker name. Just drops Ruan yes. I know surrender yesterday. That was yesterday. India okay so I'm Callahan. Retain them assuming. I've got chance to wash your address. Renew my impact plus yesterday and I didn't get a chance to watch no surrender you. Well oh I see. That's what you're saying so hope. I'm assuming he retained because the match the heart kills hasn't been changed via social media Will available live on impact plus. Yeah so and tonight as a motorcycle motown showdown Belleville impact. Oh yeah that'd be. CW Show in Belleville might go except like diamondback saloon. I believe we were there that one so I wanted a car on a car and it got like like four fucking huge guys. It'd be like called like a battle like Brian Cage. AC Romero moves in like these guys like big guys is like four or five of them like and like just saw. Aw All out fight pretty much man. That's right kyle. I'm going to that. We gave away some tickets at our survivor series event. So I wanted to Gobert schedule. You gotTa Work Nerd Nerd were involved. So shutt- aw how that's the other thing I wanted to get into the fall. Show evolve was here in in Detroit on one forty one of one forty one. Thank you Where we had so you can meet CIAMPA? He can meet Walter. Walter was actually in a match on the show any time about the Walmart I want for the one was really good. Show is My second of all show. I've ever went to so it was the first of all shaw throw into were. It was still good Highlight to me was There was a tag team match for detecting championships Yeah Leon rough and they are defending his sidell. Hideout forgot the other guy's name. I just really forgot his name. Because the ills Hang out with Macedonia. After the show got a picture and did he goes did he goes side Elliott. He goes born. He says okay. Evan Bar was just the name me one hundred W W Polo and actually I'd have a quick conversation. HMS Ideal three percents. I couldn't actually. I wanted to record. It gave me shit about where my Hoodie and shirt like you know they're bringing honoring Hoodie. Says break down randomly. I'll actually ask anyway honoring the late. Now man we're good let's ring crew in the business so yeah so as the arena like is actually asks well at least you tried the Grad continue with Highlight to me was tag team. They had some really good tag team matches going on in general because most of my first awesome Chris. Bay Live too so he was phenomenal. any Kingston there with a six man tag at he's GonNa know on unwanted also Club kicked out of the unwanted an assailant beforehand The main event was Walter. I'm drawn names on blanks. I'm blank on names here. Didn't he take on. I have the about one forty forty one card. Another mass actually liked was Jd Drake had a match. What the champion? Josh Briggs Briggs Our really Internet management. The finished shot late. They they watch the Finish Timothy Thatcher. Timothy Thatcher's Walter but yet judge Briggs in. Jj had an amazing mashed. It's just the botch finish had. It took me completely out of it. we're having I guess braves supposed to you going for his Finisher off the top Oliwa. Drake was on the top rope and they just kinda botched to finish and they just went too far from there. The move by stadium. He's from there okay and got three L. A.. Okay guys just put on his really good match but Dan I got like you like everything. Will he way you compare the movies. It's like okay. We had this really good. Build up in a crescendo. was just farted. Your use farted on Mir Attar. We had this if you gave me all this greatness this did you say Chris Bay Novels. Who Talk about what sort of drop lights on name? lancs dribbling traveling so wait. Who did you say took them? On the first match was besties versus the skulk doc skulk Alana's gray. Yeah okay great not be all right. I like Shipman. Because he had the deficit I was like no. I'm going to okay. Great not being Chris. Base should be signed signed somewhere big phenomenon Osama impact like he did handiwork impact when a saucer So talk about something that you did after the show when you were talking to some of the wrestlers so I got so went and I gotta autograph from Brady Lauren. who was a pass Appearance Pretty much called into the show at one point Let's be her for a second but there was a bunch of kids behind me so I didn't want to take up too much time So I got up pavement autograph and she noticed a Hoodie and she's Mitch and that she was on the show uh-huh at one point and I say yeah I'm wondering is this. I'm show gives me a t-shirt and those the people over here and I just kind of let that be to give you. Yeah Nice for giveaways and stuff. Yeah so yeah. So she asked me what size. He's just got large giveaway. And when I talked to Alexei and also talk to Matt Slice I got a picture an autograph with it so I'm from him so and I was like I have fun now outside myself. I actually came here as they fans lease like. Would you know you're the best kind of fan of self promoting fan my shirt or you say I think because it's like both people I talked to. They they look at the honey new like the school in Nablus calling they brought up something about it yeah like excite. They'll try to pretty much me about not bringing down the rain ready Laura I was on a show like I was on that show a while back like Oh yes I I know I was there. I interviewed you. How are you nice to put a face with the voice so yeah so right that was cooling and also another day like during the show I ran the three people at Szott Hoodie and they said they listened to our show. Dog shutout to those guys and girls girls and And they were in noses really dragging them noxious and they. They brought up us. They brought up art. And I like okay okay. Yeah they did all nothing but they were just like it was called. They brought us up. But then which is really overly drug shit talk. People are fans not told him that I wanted to point out that sometimes really drunken annoying. But that's that's why. Yeah but overall it was good show show. I went as a self promoting fan. But you put yourself man. That's what we should do really might go to. Also impacting tonight also gave also gave Idell. What about cards? So I won't data so yes our information. Hey Messa del. If you're listening Wollo cards so they did a little bit of promoting uploaded us a little bit while I was out there tonight. at we're talking about the impact motown showdown. Rhino is taken out Sammy. Callahan for the impact world championship having in Madison Verse Rosemary and Taya You Got Brian Cage verse. Michael Elgin battles yesterday The impact division. The X Division Championship is on the lines. As Defense Against Dad's desperately Xavier rascals Madman Fulton Verse Eddie Edwards. He got Willie Mack enrich vers. Lovie David J Chris and the DNC hit squad boy hero versa. The rascals Yemen. I'm going to head the roused the last one Zachary wentz entry mcgeough. Yeah so my head down there man if I if he starts at eight o'clock tonight to go have a fucking blast e blasting awesome Belleville. Say Hi to all the impact guys you know Give a good handshake to my good friend Row Heat Rossouw You know make fun of his haircut are or not because it's cool Mohawks do it all right so put excuse me Facie Facie Season's just playing to twenty in all the bugs while listening to us really thieves not much different than listening to us. Twenty We all right. We have talked so much about the greatness that we have in professional wrestling. Now Wow and what we are finding in having as fans in pro wrestling what we are dealing with is something that has been unprecedented great. Nothing has been so readily available for wrestling fans not so much. Rising is not being readily available for fans. The way it has weight is right now now and because of that we are so happy. Why isn't that bring up? No are we announcing something no. Because he's a while he wanted to bring it up. No no it was I was bringing bringing up the skype ahead. Any missed calls which we don't was sad because I really wanted to talk to the smackdown showdown guys today. We have had all this for a few months now and a lot of talk before this was going to be too much. Is it going to be an overload outside of the fact that as we're on this show we kind of have to watch everything but do you feel nick. Start with you that this is just like. You're getting force-fed force-fed too much or is it a good pace at a good time. You have the week to pay attention to it. I think it's a good pace. That's a good time but it's it's not being forced that it is still we'll to it's tough to get through it all just because you know we all have lives outside of here and one week to the next might be different. Aren't you know So to find the time to do that get enough rest for my my nine to five job. Spend spend time with my kid And do other things that I need to do. it's a little tiresome so luckily early enough though with the availability of like cliff notes and things like that. If there is something that I can't watch which I think it's only really happen once that I miss something maybe twice but with the the access to that kind of stuff it does help I this week I felt a little bit to the point where I was like okay like mostly with raw. I'm like man I'm watch. I've watched an hour. This already ready. Maybe I'll just skip it and watch the cliff notes later or just because it's becoming chore to watch raw a little A little bit for you I feel like there's a lot in values a lot with nine four fit pace in all right but we'll see him certainly Tuesday yet three shows to pick from Wednesday. You got two shows to pick from or like you say you guys. DVR You watch. Watch it back to back Monday Friday Monday. You got three hours raw. You got two hours of smackdown on Friday a lot MHM wasn't you pick and choose and accessibility where all the extremists harvest like. No Japan world impact plus W network The gas up like Hulu we can watch TV next day. There's there's ways to to fit it in but it's a lot Jesus when I I like the fact that you can if I do miss something if I were to skip or whatever. I'm not that worried about it because if this were twenty twenty five years ago I'd miss it I am. I didn't see anything happen but I'm able to look at you know stuff that we do look at notes things like that and catch up so it's not. It's not really bad. I just you know I want to watch things like impact I just don't I don't have any more time to watch anything else I really don't. You're stupid oh no I feel I watch it a debut product a chore Once Again I have the Hulu so I can always watch condensed version later on before the before two weeks up. And that's kind of what I've been doing lately with Ross. MacDonald's at this week where I actually did watch Soi and I just watched Hulu original smack now this week and But the ones I but also I make my way to make sure I find a way to watch impact here now because that's one of the products I really enjoy right now And that's what was. Uh That's what I love about. Disseminating wrestling we. It's a buffet. We can pick and choose the stuff that we like. I'll I'll watch impact I just we scrapped. Impact I describe. Scrapped scribe for impact plus because I like the product that's far also. Tin Hinny archives are and they're like all the matches slight from one. Aj thousand thousand. James Storm and those guys were there. They're available impact books and and even though you might not be fan of everything that all these companies are doing Ooh John. Smith's disallow my comedy Jordan. Pass to the white guy calm down even even though you might not be thrilled with everything that everybody's doing it's still one of the best times to be wrestling fan ever right now. So accessibility Louis is one of the best things right now to end up power as a youtube show. You don't always have to watch it live. It's going to be there all right here we go. Here's some again again this whole conversation. We didn't talk about shit before we came on the day. rank it you all-rank first. This way you guys can think about it because it's popped in my head is we. Were talking about it and I'm not GonNa just throw you to the wolves. Outrank I of the mainstream ones Roth rof. NWEA impact an X.. T. Eight W and smackdown numbers there. Six of them one through six start with six go to number one and I'll start with six six always super easy. It's fucking role on all right. Let's be very honest. If you're going to number five super easy as well well smackdown right like it sucks but if you're honestly putting it into the rankings of all of these we've talked about it consistently How much we truly enjoy an X.? T. A. W. Nwea an impact overall all the time we constantly have gripes about smackdown. ACT ON IT raw raw way more than smackdown for me wrong number six five number five smackdown number four people off. Aws I I think eight W as good as it is for the high spots is just as bad for the low spots and therefore it puts it into a middle ground and because of that I will never say that I feel. Aws better than NWEA impact or annex t that being said next number three for me is impact wrestling really impact. Wrestling is putting on a great product. But my problem with it is is. I'm not fully emotionally invested into it yet right so you can't do that but at the same time it's the same at we're not talking about you talk me so because I'm not mostly. It's kind of their fault but but not the kind of because they still have to our show right and the product that they've been putting on I was able to catch in and out but being on access I'm getting more emotionally socially involved invested. Because I'm able to watch it more readily rather than just trying to pull up twitch twitch fuck dude we have an account on twitch and forget the fucking could post that up on our for our twitch stream right like we asked what you know we have to bring us guys play. Whatever fucking game you want fucking have attitude? We'll get all the gamers there's and I I'm all right with that but I forget to put it up on the fucking stream. The number three impact number two surprising to people will an x t but I am super emotionally invested into it I am. It is something that I've been watching for very long time. Bought not as good as it is n w ages sucked me in right and this is it might be number one and two. You could flip flop any week for me right so obviously number one being the NWEA power. But would I pay twenty dollars Doc. What I'd be ten dollars more to get an annex t pay per view I would think about it I also know it will be streaming later and I could probably watch it on the regular? WW Network without paying the extra ten dollars to get to watch it live right or the extra ten dollars to watch it within the the first week or the first you know what I pay for it because I wanted to or what I pay for it because I had to a probably pay for it because I had to Nwea. I was like the minute I saw that they posted a link as I just wanted to. NWEA website national wrestling alliance DOT COM. I don't know why we keep putting them over. Hey sponsor sponsor us now but I saw it was like hey ordered on right now and I was like I clicked and I went and I bought it no thought process behind. It was like dude. I really want to watch that MHM on this entire episode weekly on Youtube is something that I'm intrigued in that something that just pulled me in and is something that I without thought without question was like twenty bucks. Fuck it. Let's do it. You know so to me my power. Rankings my rankings of this this current week which the bottom of about two probably going to stay the bottom two but you can always fluctuate Raw number six number five is smack down. Number four is a w W. number three is impact number to annex. T number one is NWEA Smitty until just for this week in general so overall privately. And that's what I'm talking about like the region said this week the reason. NWEA ANNEX COULD FLIP FLOP. Week to week is because of what you gave me right and granted right now. NWEA's give give me a pay per view coming up on Saturday and gave me a great fucking season finale of NWEA power. But it doesn't put it this fuck man even Adam Cole with his. You're you're just a GIF. Line line to Keith. Lee was amazing. Because it's so good it's because he is right analysis and so many it's mean bills Komo paycheck my bills and this and it's fucking great man in his fucking great so again. That's why that would fluctuate actuate we if I did this We what am I enjoying the most week to week. That's why those top two can go. I mean it's time for maybe impact our AWA possibly move But that's why those who are just flopping week to week because that just house it goes but I'm not trying to get a week to week grading system. I just want to know what you're enjoying most overall starting six ex I would have to agree that raw smackdown on six five of three missing four. I mean four. Well actually. I'm saying I'm saying three because it's still up for me right now. I'm still fluctuating between six and eight. W legs legs Tie Yes that's why it's a tight that's what we have to. I would have said one and two or ties. No you can't number four as I still. I'm still having trouble choosing between power not powered by dynamite in the NFC right and you you have to pick one for For the rest of Your Life Smitty I'll exceed and and I'm still. I'm still like I'm used to this point. I'm still enjoying an see and like this is just small little stuff like just like you say. Nothing's perfect in this industry a dynamite. Because it's still kind of it's still fresh is all you what two two and a half months in now in this they have grow. But I'm still like what I'm seeing I'm having problems with some of the ranking stuff and number to will be power is the simplicity of power keeps me intrigued into it and Number one would have to be impact. Wrestling does not wanna few things. I go out of my way to watch You say you weren't in mostly invested into animals investing impact because I'll sat and watched the time when it was complete trash in Washington where it's come from there and Some stuff that they're doing like I'm always impressed with the women over there. I'm impressed what they do it. To make our town of the way they carry their stories and The way built it or pay reviews. They actually have long-term stories. Stories are going to these papers views and somebody stories go after pay per views and like I'm just one hundred percent vested and I'm mostly mostly among the best in the characters story even if they're not as okay maybe we'll listen. What what did you the person next week? Or as good and they they spread out their talent very well throughout their weekly shows So impact. Probably my my my I wanted wrestling. The is the best restaurant out there right now. I I can't put impact out there yet because I don't think it's fair to them because watching number six's impact you have with with an asterix because you have asked yeah But I will say hey this I think I'm gonNA start watching it and when I can do is I can. DVR And watch it on my phone come. My lunch breaks at work. Even if it takes me two or three days to watch it. I'll watch it okay. So we'll put them at six number five would be raw number six going backwards back to IMPAC back number. Five is we're off for would be smackdown. I was pretty high A. W. I've I've been coming down from that high recently I still I still really enjoy it. I still am very much invested in the product. I'm a huge fan. 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Faded Tales Episode 5

Find the Path Podcast

1:33:24 hr | 4 months ago

Faded Tales Episode 5

"Welcome Pathfinder's to the find the path podcast actual play of the mummies mascot venture breath start faded tales addition or episode. This episode of our continued faded tells. Welcome back to the the continued adventures of our near dwells the viper and his faded. What you guys. It's a where a gang. Yeah sure where you're going with this one of the court but I was like no there's five it's Quinta Quintet yes. Sagarra takes offensive. This she is an equal partner farewell. Well his CORTEX PLUS ONE GEARS. Front lining faded. That's that's the band name. It's basically if you have the cats but with an actual cut one thing. They were missing last. We had left our anti heroes. The miscreants are wanted criminals in many of your cases of the cases in fact the party had left the Aug city of what he had set off north initially on camelback before arriving the city of on spending a very short period of time there much thing one day and tired I think it was a night in the crappiest in they could find on fire before we left arm. We did get that exposition. You guys got a little bit of back story. A little bit of a exposition from the viper explaining not only his involvements in the sword tells of what happened eighteen years prior but but also the the various connections There's there's a lot of information that actually came out in that last episode. I didn't occur to me until after I was done without pressure. That's the first time that you've ever gotten fall to his father's name. I think as I've ever Gotten Faltas last name too that's true. Yes well technically actually. Not even full. Does last name technically full to was born out of wedlock and so he is literally just full to absolute is what he usually goes by. He hasn't taken his father's last name. Oh sorry about that spirit man. They're dropping all the spoilers that are characters in the main game would love to know and never know. Listen Information and mean citrus. GotTa know this right. You would think it's like you're just sitting there and you're like what is your last name. A random episode. One hundred photo mentioned to Sicher that his mother worked the dogs. Yeah but she may not know what that means exactly. It's also worked. Docks could mean she was just a big swell lady I she she works the docks if you understand what I mean. There's a nudge there. But I wasn't here for this. I think there was asleep during that more. Just RJ my role play with my my husband's done. I'm done I episode one. Ross wasn't even there. No I wasn't but yeah he'd gotten some information you got an Savarese back story about all the the sword events that happened there about the last is of raw we are. Yeah the weird voices the children of segment. It a little bit of information. I think pertaining Cigarettes biological father. Yep Samir another year another one another Samir as say who knew this. Aguirre was part invisible stalker. She's pretty healthy. True was kind of thinking Back story one of the ladies at the temple of Bass's named Masika. Yea there is a Masika the chapel bath so apparently mystique is also a recurring. I also think that one of the other ladies that works at the Temple of Bass has the same less or same first name as on your daughter did from his original incarnation interesting. Like it's common though it's like how many frigging Jennifer's are there right. You know if your name is Jennifer your phone. Unique person themselves unique. But there are tons of Rachel's there's tons of heather's are tons of Rick's tons of Jessica's like it's because people like find value in these names so thing about Jordan is. I'm not the only one no. You're not even close. Actually somebody has my head my name at my college Rachel. We have to sixth of the friends. A standing Yeah you found out a little bit more about Samir. You've found out a little bit more about all of that information before you'd set off and got a better idea of what you're possibly walking into. Which is death potentially death the desert I though so desert and then death no third King God starting to sound like normal their desert. We'll shortcake gracious. So I suppose then after all those Graham revelations who had made you way further north than eventually tractor way over towards the city of no at which point you. It only spent another day there at the crappiest end in the town deal. Why is he so cheap trying to be incognito? Yeah you draw less attention to yourself. If you're staying in craft places we did meet that Shady merchant. Oh yeah the camels from him. I should probably get a town. You know it sounds like a good idea going across the desert will never find me there if it works for Faltas intervention. No one may ever found him again so all of it ties back in together like an intricate tapestry. The party then set off from there and I suppose that's where we'll begin things once again. It's been about three days now since you've left the town of Eto town somewhat of a misnomer actually very alert city after setting off from a you make your way south for about three days or so keeping the pillars of the sun off towards your left hand side off towards the East from where you are now. Your trick is thankfully mostly uneventful as you make your way forward. It's tiring more so for the camels. Necessarily all of you. I think so I think at the very least drew. Druid can create water. Yeah absolutely gotTa Memories and everything prepared. It's like it's the most important spill in the desert for maybe drill. It's actually no waters. Probably still more important yeah. The pillars of the sun are a large mountain range consisting of variety of red and orange strayed. It's stone which stretches up higher and higher into the heavens as you make your way further along Closer and closer to the mountains following along was you're going to guest is just taking the reverse trike that. The Viper took some almost twenty years ago by this point mostly relying on his memory which does seem to be still rather sharp. And what the camel vipers of the valleys not slowing all of you down after three more days. It's becoming apparent to all of you that the viper is not doing well. He does what he can to hide this to obscure this to soldier on but every once in a while even through the wind and the occasional blowing curtain of sand even through the scarf that he has pulled up high as most of you do to keep the sand out from your mouth in your nose your ears you can still hear this almost almost this wet rattling cough. That he does his best to hide from the rest of you and smiles and nods. If addressed after three days as the sun begins to reach the far horizon the Viper calls for a halt beside one of the numerous delicate towering arches of stone that marked the surrounding landscape burrowed out from the wind and sand over Millennia. You set up camp here. And unlike in the previous night's the viper takes time to set up camp and then retreats to his tent bidding. All you good night and informing you that you should arrive at the temple tomorrow. You have enough time together. You're not actually really gathering together that you're finding out here so much as simply the would that you brought with you. Build a fire circle the camel somewhere nearby as you have seen signs of jackals and Hyenas and the surrounding area again. Nothing that would be a threat to any of you. But you're at that high level adventuring thing where it's like a fireball is not really gonNA hurt any of us but oh kill anything that we're writing. Jackals not going to be a threat to any of us but it will kill. Her Campbell's would be worse than trail. Pretty much anything. We'd be stuck in the desert then you have to cast raise dead and you have to hope. The camel accepts it. I don't know what you're talking about came eleven now sick is GonNa Seidel up to crucible and be like. Hey aren't you like a doctor or something? What's wrong with them? I mean I'm a doctor. In like the most lenient terminology on you know how to make stuff. That cures people right. Yes what's wrong with them? I don't know you think he's going to die before we get to the temple because that'd be a problem with a he'll check. I probably presumably made. Would I be able to tell? What's ailing him like how to treat him? What are you taking ten on Hill? Check twenty five. Well you don't have. You don't have medical schooling your rather skilled at the skill. It helps that. I haven't alchemist ability to allow me. Use My knowledge nature instead of by. He'll so I don't know why that works. That's vivisections documents thing. I guess at that point. You're almost more of a relief. You veternarian fair. I can do a long surgery on Israel and buff Israel creepy. Yeah really creepy. You're not doing that more now because even crucibles like that's a little icky to be fair. That do near in school actually takes his from what I understand harder than medical school for most professional. There's a lot more types of animals in there. Are People true generally? There's one type of people slave? I'm pretty sure that was the joke. Six towards fixing horse exactly the same. Cats are just really small horses to sleep a lot with your hill. Check your knowledge of nature after rubbing some essence of lavender on his forehead for the best. No no the confusing element of this is that there is nothing medically wrong with them. There's there's fluid build up in his lungs you can determine that there's some sort of weakening in general. It's the easiest way to perhaps describe. It would be that. He's taking in nourishment. He's taking in water but he doesn't seem to be almost benefiting from it. It's something you guess magical in nature but for those of you who have magical powers. You can't determine what this is. I don't know because nothing I've done worked on him. I can't tell if it's magical but whatever's happening he's not getting any nourishment from whatever he's eating and so he's wasting away but no amount of magical healing mundane treatments or anything I can determine can solve it so karst. Maybe that's not really my area of expertise. I've been cursed a few times. I guess that could be my area of expertise weird flex but okay secure does in fact flex expert. I don't think being cursed makes you an expert on it. I have a friend. That's good at Kerr's but you know she's kind of busy well regardless. There doesn't seem to be anything we can do for him. It's possible that given his fantastical story. He was long ago cursed by that thing that you carry around the darkness of now. He didn't touch the rocket. Wouldn't that in Curson talk of ideas. There was a lot of strange things happening that night. Though who's to say whatever magic. The Cat Fokker doing didn't have some sort of lasting effect. That's true although I mean maybe they were trying to stop this horrible leathery creature of the dark thing so they probably weren't too focused on cursing him whatever happened getting closer to the source of that initial curse or infection or whatever it is seems to be weakening him it could just be that the closer we're getting to the source of whatever could have cursed him if that indeed what it is. It's just getting stronger because we're getting to the source of the problem though. Maybe once we get there we can figure out what it is and get rid of it for the boss. That would be the best course of logic. Sounds like a good idea. If it doesn't kill all you can try always the optimists aren't you? I'm a realist. What if we can't can't do what. What if the worst happens and he does perish from whatever? This is what we hold on. That's the worst thing that can happen in this scenario. Yes no the worst thing is we could all perish. That's the worst thing I don't know. How do you feel about navigating us back to anywhere? I feel like I have a pretty okay geography and a cat. I don't know if that's helpful is. There looks up with tongues still sticking out from where she was looking herself all felt pretty okay about it look. I think at the end of the day if something does happen to him. There's not a lot we can do about it at this point. Nothing any of us have tried has worked. GotTa find the Kid. Maybe he's just sad has a son is gone or something. I mean physiologically. No Hey because he said I've heard people dying from heartbreak but women raises a science. The science says no what science site. You're white papers. I'm sorry I don't have my bibliography definitely didn't write about this. Technical medical schooling says the Guy using knowledge nature for his hill. Check like sweet. I'm in a group of uneducated people. Excellent I can see smart. Got Tired of that CITRA looking down her nose at me. Look at me down yes say but yeah it seems our best course of action is just to try to figure out what's going on and solve it before it consumes them so. I guess we'll sleep right not much except for whoever's on WATCH ASLEEP IF YOU'RE ON WATCH TRUE. I mean I only sleep two hours. So we'll do for you can be on watch. You're welcome good night then creepy. You're walking backwards into a tent and contact the entire time and so like I'm getting a total like super creepy. Jaffar vibe off. This guy. Creep Year seems right. I didn't though I should have taken the tumor familiar to Miami Dude. That's an alchemist discovery. Show that's strange. I don't like it all right. I guess we'll settle and also retreat. And so her tents slightly less creepy silently cigarette will hang out outside and keep watch and Israel will sleep yes to asleep for eight hours to try to get closer to a required sixteen hours sleep a for the two hours. That cigarette has to sleep is there has be awake and she gets the guard. Come in Oh. Let's see how you're doing that clear. We'll watch no. It's it's more to protect me from y'all fair that's fair. I wash as well. I mean. Yeah we're being the most uncomfortable route in the wilderness ever urban druid. What am I doing here? What's wrong with you just like one with nature? Nah Yeah it's true they. Sheila Monster comes out sand everywhere. Oh my God what does that? It's a bird. It's just a really big bird suffer. It's okay calm down but but I've never seen one before you turn into them then I don't are you. That's not a patient. I only know pigeons. Yeah was it the three point five. Druid that could wild shaping. The potted plants cheers. I think yeah wait. So you're telling me that was a mimic urban druid and three point five could like basically just polymorphic themselves polymorphic object instead of into Animal Forbes. We think you're right. Yeah all of you sleep through the night putting up your various watches preparing yourselves. Sagir paranoid lay almost more concerned about her patriots than anything that could possibly take out of the desert. Get one point during the night a cat sized Scorpion Kinda wanders. Its way into camping. Take some of your scraps and then scuttled off. That's fine. They're basically alley cats desert. A lot of you wake up the following day break camp set off make your way further closer to the mountains at this point. You've missed a couple of monuments of ancient sites leftover from the Syrian people from the height of ancient Assyrian scattered about throughout the land. Sometimes it's just the foundations of old building. Sometimes it's monolithic structures given over to wear and decay and many of those cases. Any of those of you with experience in the open desert which I think is actually none of you. None of us know that you inform me in your back stories. You know that an abandoned site such as these. Don't stay abandoned for long. Eventually something is going to move in an ESA. You've done what you can to avoid majority of those sites as you make your way. Further and further to the south here it is though that you eventually find a single statue buried up to its neck and the desert sands to the point that there's only about some foot tall jackal head protruding up out of the sands staring off across the open desert. It's features almost worn away entirely by the Blasting sans over the millennia so that it's really just when the light plays across. It puts it in a stark contrast light playing across its southern face. Been giving it some detail. In the northern face being in darkness that it provides enough contrast read actually pick out features like eyes teeth secure touches. Her Golan Bain scare that slot listen and pinned to her cloak. Just to make sure and like looks at it suspiciously because the NUBA SACH US. Having the past attacked her. This one is not a goal also. I totally forgot that you had that that item and then left the party. I bought it bad. Stir you either statue. You can tell that it's not a goal even if it were a goal unfortunately it'd be buried up to its neck. You don't know if that would stop it but it might slow down. Maybe the viper nods. This appears to be the pardon. This appears to be the turning point for US AS IN WE TURN HERE. Yes we should be able to reach the town and no more than maybe two hours tower. Well the town that was built around the base where the actual sanctuary was. I doubt it's a town. Now unless is full of horrible monstrosities or a lot of dead. That'd be great so we should prepare ourselves potty. Break break for everyone. I think also took padre everyone hops down from their camels does some stretches and a little bit of you know you're going to be working out here percents especially those hamstrings. My Gosh. It also gives the opportunity for plan to perform her to get her abilities and all the rest of that now that she's closer to a site that you can get them from essay on says actually require that you go to a place that somehow ties into the spirits to get the powers from them now. It's really class. What kind of spirits are you getting? I tend to stick with the trickster that makes sense trixie class do bonuses to my dexterity and my reflex also gives me to skills that I would normally have which I had chosen to be history and acrobatics. Nice cool and I also get Tuesday. The sneak attack. That's rob characters then was sneak attack. Sneaky yes and no rooks. All RIGHT COOL. You gather yourselves together. You make your way down this path as you navigate your way for the path descends down through a maze of cliffs valleys winding their way deeper various tracks. As you make your way closer and closer every once in a while you do pass by a number of small obelisks that have been erected along the side here statements from previous kings and rulers from ages past. Most of the paths here are only white enough for cart to make its way down. Maybe a wagon with some difficulty but fortunately on camelback. You're able to ride to abreast as you make your way further eventually. The pathway opens up almost into a larger canyon of sorts. The redstone walls around you or smooth. Morin down by the centuries to statues flank the Kenyan insurance as you make your way forward both of them twelve foot. High statues of a cat headed goddess. As she stares down at you as you walk beneath her feet not best at though probably segment right anyone who has no religion. I do anyone who religion can take ten and get a fifteen honestly I can but I also really well twenty four free twenty four. Yes you can recognize these as again best and segment both have feline headed statues although segments are a little bit more noticeably line as opposed to best sets which are a little bit more of A. I can't remember what the African wildcats are called them. The ancestors of all domestic cats servewell's serval. You actually think its most noticeable in the ears. As lines rounded years you can recognize these being depictions of segment come in the referred to as the Lady of slaughter. She's the chaotic neutral goddess of Fire Healing Vengeance and war when the Sun Rog ruled. His human subjects rebelled against him and so he sent his daughters segment to punish them going further than was planned segment. Took on the task with such fury that raw feared that she would exterminate the human race in order to save humanity in destruction. Rothfield jugs with a mixture of beer and pomegranate juice and then scattered them across the battlefield thinking that the red liquid was human blood setback. Greedily consumed every drop that she could find quickly becoming so drunk that she was unable to continue her slaughter segment. I was the wrong. How one of these domains not like the others. The Oh sure yeah hey It's probably one of those more battlefield medic than you know. Being healing although primarily goddess of war and vengeance has another side as the goddess of Healing. Who Wards off plagues and pestilence she hills warriors of their wounds and is especially revered for carrying fractures as the daughter of raw segment is also the goddess of fire. She is the sister of Hathor and Motte and the wife of Ta appears as a woman with the head of a lioness wearing a long dress soaked with red blood and rosettes over each breast occasionally. She is depicted with the solar disc of her father. Raw topper head as the eye of RAW SAGIR. Mentally is like Maybe his ancestors had like a thing going on here second. That sounds pretty cool raw. I'd have to find a special snowed as a historical side note as far as real world. History is concerned segment was also technically segment was an alternate personality of. Hathor is when Hathor noticed what was going on. Apparently she transformed into segment so they are actually the same goddess before just two different aspects. Eventually they became two separate. God's a best because at one point best segment where the same God Yup but then the depending on where you lived depending on where you lived. It's probably one of those upper and Lower Egypt things before the application was after unification. But yeah anyway ahead of you. As you make your way into this open expanse you can see the sun now up over. The top of the mountain sidestep signs down into this hidden valley here obscured from the surrounding area. This Canyon seems to have been. If you did not know where you're looking for almost impossible to find a head you can see that the stone rises up in tears. What looks to be four tiers? Ascending upwards forming almost mini plateaus or like the steps carved out by some form of giant. Although each one of these tears must be. You don't know one hundred. Two hundred feet across you can see the ruined remains of building after building a settlement may some sort of fifty structures. Here there may have been two hundred three hundred people that lived here once. The flattop buildings seemed to have whether the time that has passed these twenty years rather well as they're solid stone structures seemingly melting into the surrounding stone. And you can see that. There are some caves structures. Possibly some living quarters carved into the very cliff face itself that surrounds here of occupants. You can see none and only a single set of steps interrupts each one of the tiers making its way up toward the far side of this this canyon as it makes its way towards the mountain. These steps are wide. Probably some twenty twenty five feet across with stairs on either side and then a ramp in the center allowing people to take carts or drag larger objects beyond here you can see a wide set of steps ascending up flanked by columns leading up to what appears to be a large temple said in the shadow of the mountain itself almost seemingly carved from the mountain getting last crusade. Vibes my breath. That's where we're a little bit. Like what does that Petra Jordan? Okay but if there's a ranch in this hidden valley I'm out of here just full Assyrian. Famed for their invention of Hidden Valley ranch guy goes good on everything especially the special sauce with their special stones chicken nuggets. Just WanNa sure. Have some ranch. For dougie's installed temple laugh o tap in the background. Yeah yeah that's the secret secret ingredient. Evil great old enough of Mrs Dash once unspeakably delicious. All right I'm GONNA stop trying to advertise household products and instead start passing preparatory spells so it's one liner and it's like okay now. I'm going to guess. Spills contribute to the conversation. The end you'd see as we've arrived at her destination Severo. Would you like the blessing invested again? Yeah that sounds great. Cast HEROISM ON SIERRA. Lasts for an hour and twenty minutes. I also cast extended bark skin on myself Lou already. We should probably leave the animals here. We wouldn't want any of them to get spooked. Probably for the best as somewhere to tie them. The Viper dismounts probably just ties the brains around one of the legs of anti works. Here's segment home. My camel okay. Remember we parked under the giant statue segment here in this segment. Lot the second nothing like the Lady of slaughter to take care of you. Oh yeah that's who I trust. This person is wolf also pull her weapon shink. Everybody draws their blades. A suppose making your way forward before you can reach the first of the tears you pass through a wide open area up towards the left hand side you can see what seems to be a decently sized wastes a pool of water crystal clear that stretches across for maybe some sort of fifty yards probably the reason for the success or the release the longevity of these people surrounding here you can see areas where at one point year. Gatien took place. Whatever crops once fed this area or long since gone day poem stretch up and still surround the edge of the water in casting shade? And if it weren't for the if it weren't for your knowledge of the horrors that taking place here decades ago this place would seem idyllic beautiful the remnants of wagons crowd one far end of this open area this this agricultural center all of these wagons seemed to be. They look like they were simply left here. They'd circle to form a defensive Grimmett around the outside. And as you approach closer you can see bleached bones scattered here and there amongst the wagons. Their crates their contents left undisturbed for years. The Viper gives us a half glance before continuing to make his way Ford. It appears the scavengers came along. He glances up as if expecting to see circling vultures. But now all of you seem to be alone here. Well and all the dead here seemed to be staying dead now. Don't sit then. They rolled together to form the voltron skeleton. Happy no wichita forms the head. All the skulls are all the heads. Say fight for too long over that and kill it. That was its undoing. Lack of Unity Lou. You make your way. Further begin to send up the steps. The walls here are carved with our clicks. How many people in this group understanding Serianni know so everybody except for Sagarra Andros Gifford for Zephyr? The best bothered to learn it because it's like how many ancient ruins are lying around the city of not. Don't answer that giant sexier. Go there serious severin. You fill this chill Passover as you begin to ascend your way up and you can read the hieroglyphs that mark the walls on either side an essence that that form the steps leading up to the next tier. These seem to explain the history of this place. Will you can only take it in passing the the coming of the priests the blessing at this place. The Protective Sanctuary provided here the protection that segment affords those live here in this the sacred place in this canyon hidden away from the rest of the world many of these have repeat prayers to segment and repeat prayers to the Faeroes although the name of the Pharaoh seems to change the further along that you go to the point where you wonder if this place was built over the course of generating stations and they just kept going. Okay well now. It's Minez the Fed. Lighten UP SEX UP UP SEVEN S. They continued building up the structures. Here you region pass by the first tier and you reach the second of the four seeing more of the buildings and structures here as you reach the second as you talk the steps leading up further you can see off towards the left hand side just this marred black region and what seemed to be the leftover now reduced to just pure burned away to their very core mound of what was once probably massive on fire. I'm guessing this is where the chanting Happen Day boss. Yes is there any like residual magical sweeping the area with its magic? No you don't Cincinnati for their magic here. I'm GONNA poke around the ashes mission your way forward poking around. There isn't much left beneath this of the ashes. Almost all the ashes have been blown away. It's just the thicker. Log Support Beams. That were used for kindling. Here seemed to a burn down to their cores and just left. What's behind you? Do find a scattering of nells and racist leftover down here. The bottom twisted and melted from the heat from the party. Let's see Sagarra rolls a fourteen for a twenty five unless counts urban. But I don't think it doesn't you know I would say that this is I mean. This is the origin of town. Even if it's Bandon that it would still count as urban terrain. Okay so in that case it would be a twenty seven. And then I get for Israel. She a twelve and gets a twenty three for fourteen. No matter what character casserole Wolf Rosa. Ten for twenty one plan chat rolls a thirteen twenty-five I roll a twelve for twenty eight. Wow he's heard sweet. The Viper Roles a sixteen for thirty nice too shabby. For as hyper sexual in the Viper. I believe so yeah. I Haven't Plus Sixteen Dang son hours mines an eleven. I'm also twenty. Two wisdom absolutely helps and so wisdom ass- so Syria you dig through this for a moment. You hear something. Like a scrape sound like. It's almost difficult. Describe because it's not a sound that you know but it just sounds like movement coming from somewhere off torture right from somewhere amongst the buildings for just the second Zephyr you think you see a shadow of movement as if something passes between some of the buildings here something fast something barge but something low to the ground. We're not alone. Something's here the Viper nods gently reaching out in rotating as ring as he disappears from sight. All of you feel an itching behind your eyes. But I CAN'T SCRATCH THEIR O. Oh Arriva the voice chimes from inside of your head. You have traveled far Gal. Why don't you come out and talk to us? I'm content to speak to you down in the way that I can. Where's the boy the ass he can half court you have? What's my Lord craves Tom. Are you the sister of the other? Lamia that we're not all right. That's a no now. I am not so besa creature as the stone. Give it to us not until we see yes and we have him with US safely unharmed. Come on. We weren't born yesterday in the grand scheme of things you may as well have been. I offer you this opportunity. No well you're not getting the stone until we get the ASP simple as that safe and unharmed like she said. I see barrier health. I it to my Lord into you you all know crew with Stumm before I will eat initiative. Vote Party Sue. Thanks no thanks. Actually I have a fourteen wisdom. Whatever so twenty two. I think pretty wisdom is not very fast. Though Syra rolls of thirteen gets a fifteen. Oh but we determined that we are in fact in urban so that would be a seventeen and Israel roles a seventeen and gets twenty three nice crucible rolls a ten for a fourteen Wolf Wolf rose. Nineteen for a twenty five. Is there going to be a surprise attack around okay? Well she one of her vanguard abilities is called ever ready she can never be caught unaware and she can always act on this. President Grown. Spooky clincher. I chat rolled in eighteen or twenty-one Zephyr roll the four got a six Moi pipers coming in with an eighteen and this guy or girl not true visiting creep jaw this thing will need a roll off with Israel. Day bringing it out today It's a twenty two again or the seventeen again. You believe me if I said I need another Roloff. Dare rude this time. Ask kind of this. I'm just seventeen. Still not bad. All right combat surprise attack around believe it was Syra Zephyr and the Viper perceptual before. Correct yes wolf because of your weird ability of knowing where this thing is I guess she will just ready to attack an enemy. If it comes within range of her will have cer- Blade readies herself brings us to the creature. Dang oh well is. There didn't notice never mind. It's hot and Sandy. Why are we out here digging deep for this one hold on now so for security for a moment secure ahead of you you see just this movement behind one of the buildings and almost shapeless purple mass? This seems to glance. Alp Pre describe an action to this thing as glancing following this the strange almost bluish white me as much as covers the back portion of the open market area. That you're in blanketing behind you as for the rest of you. This fog. Clouds appears and washes over you. I will need a will save from everyone. Except for Severa and Israel who imagine what Ford with her master after she's always does this count as an sham or definition effect in Chipman. Yeah Oh roll a one too. So you know we're GonNa be in there together just Aguirre and plan and the minute broiled a fifteen for twenty three twenty three our oldest sixteen for nineteen sixteen a nineteen nineteen barely succeeds. No yeah the worst part is GONNA plus fifteen to this role. Line this meazza rolls over all of you and as you breathe it in for. Zephyr as well as crucible. You've almost almost feel like this. Fog Crawls in through your nostrils and settles inside of your brain as you say this sudden sluggish nece. Oh come on really four about Rick says Oh this is so bad. It's going to be so bad feelings. I civil and for Zephyr taking minus tin penalty on an a minus ten penalty to all will save your my wills at zero or my wisdom's at zero ability damage. Ten Eighty to your voice. Yeah so start with out of curiosity was four of six. We'll say Jesus start with so I'm still positive. It's just a lot worse. Elected minus ten almost has more than crucible warmly very late term thinker. Kind of a person. Yes fill this just kind of rolling for you breasts from there to the Viper this. Let me ask me. I don't know if it's well there might be a limit to exactly secure. Sagarra would like to figure out where this thing is you roughly. No you know what building it is behind. It's approximately forty five feet away from you. All right I'M GONNA adjust my grip my sword and I'm GonNa head the direction I think it is. Then I'll alike. Have come with me on her. Turn with keeping like defend. Be Kitty so you assure that defend command Hulo. She actually had made the perception roles. You reacted before. She's even had a chance to notice this. She's kind of looking around and growling from Ciro. We go to Zephyr. You don't feel so great you can make craft. Yeah do spoke raft pushes them no I just enrolling can't roll above forty way get new dice also told I. Roll a three for an eleven. Oh you have no idea what this is but your brain fills real slow. Yes I think I think he hit us with a Pash cloud fellow right now man. I inhaled so much. Smoke Pizza Hut delivers to hear from the White Castle Man. Yeah I don't know what this is but it seems to be a cloud of some sort right yes. It appears to be approximately. Yeah I'm actually going to cast to this cloud I guess directly away from us and away from the creature too so I guess toward the south like drunkenly look at it and go and like blow Super Superman below right. I was thinking like a little kid blowing up birthday candles crews severe blast of air approximately fifty miles per hour. There you go so yeah center it. I guess in front of me and blows back farewell. So you concentrate calling upon the power best that gesturing with the hand as a blast of wind cones whipping past all of you plan. Chet and Wolf's cloaks billowing dramatically in the wind is you're just hit in the face with a fifty mile per hour wind. Does that thing? Where like the sand curls on either side of it and just blows this one stroke a revealing the actual flagstones buried under the sand for centuries Wolf's not the one who did this one's definitely puffing though so moving on from there we're on one of regular combat because recreational okay. Jeez well if you're ready to action did not go off. Yeah and I still don't have any idea where this thing is do. I well. You're secure is heading okay. So but the cloud didn't disperse you're surrounded by your patriots. It does take one round for the fog to disperse even under these ones. All right well I guess I'm going to start moving in the direction that's Aguirre is. She seems to have seen it. She's running towards something with intent. Anyway got taken off at a run. Do you want to double move or share does kind of point like flank this building with me so with a double move you can catch up to Syrah okay? You can start swinging out white if you want to start trying to circle around to the back of the structure Nath. That's what Sagarra's motioning for me to do. I guess you complicated. Hand signs figures like that. The point emotion that you see in every movie ever. We're all types here even though none of us are rogues tracing Jason Israel imagined. She'd catch up to you. Yeah she's just going to stay with me because right now because she's I like make another check to see if she can notice where the thing is this you know the perceptual range Yes so let's move action to determine its direction if she wants US Central. Okay so she'll catch up to me and the news of action to you. Sent she barrels. Because his up alongside of you looping ahead Thinks she's easily faster than you. She's fifty feet without using Ryan. Which is ridiculous. But she is gardening. So she trots up catches up alongside of YOU SNIFFS THE AIR. Her hackles raises. She is towards the building ahead of you. You can't see the creature any longer. Sagir makes kind of like a kind of motion. Like what's up with this thing? Let's hope it's on dead? You Bunches Ambi- back there. You Gas gas back there. Purple boy real. The creature moves out from behind the building head of it. There it is. This seems to be some form of worm like monstrosity. Oh fine with a hideous face of nothing but is in hooked jaws. Wait multiple draws cross. It has twin tentacle which stretch off of the back of it and seems to be carried forward on hundreds of legs which support bolt of this hawking. Thirty five foot long creature. As a massive of your. You're very ugly yikes now. That's that's some nope sauce. Right there the creatures Bo come sliding out as it slithers its way forward on its hundreds of legs strangely enough and almost a comedic site. secure concede that this thing is carrying with it What appears to be a sword in one of its twin tell tentacles and what appears to be a wand in the other one as four. You've gotta be kidding me. I'm sorry are you going to fight me with this sword seven hundred? I'm GonNa take that sword when you die because it's probably interesting sort is huge so I can take that as its links its way for it explodes outward striding up and then it will go ahead and turn its gaze towards you know. He's got a fifty fifty shot crucible prized row trouble. I will need you to make me a will. Safe no no. I rolled an aid for to minus minus six. My Wolf says right now. Oh No it's GonNa make me dance. Puppet you will now need to make a fortitude save bonus no it's necker Mansi so not a poison must do circumstance say Plus Four circumstance bonus assuming that you're more than half of your total hip points. I am allow. That's good. I rolled. Well okay so that's a thirty to thirty two okay. That was probably a saver diet. Type situation you only take two points of damage as you fill this crushing weight in your head. There's this horrible sickening sensation as your nose. Bleeds and blood. Gushes out down across your face. That's what was that. That sounds fun. You just tried to squish my brain with his brain. Did that thing where you look through. When I squeeze some Squin- do your sick. I think you've had to tell you. Don't say yes great. That's another minus dude. Everything was eighty eight Wilson This is awful. Y'All crystal in a sack lives here from this horrible creature and whatever the heck it just did to you we go to plunge yet have been trying to figure out what. I'M GONNA do engineering if you possess it. Nope I have that Dan. Okay I was GONNA try and hasten everybody even everybody's split up that's true well you see yourself crucible and Zephyr or you could hey sagir Israel and wolf. That'd probably be better. I'm GONNA Makes Sense. I think that would be the best way to go. So I cast haste upon the frontline took one look at this thirty five foot. Long Centipede peed worm. Just like no. Did I get the viper in that by chance you to target people so suggested seem you cannot Torkham? His brain is melting. Because we can't see him take following the sound of wracking coughs from there. We go to secure a question here. Already know the answer to it. Would you define secure as being same? I mean Yeah Okay. How Nita will save for long beer? That's unfortunate but I have heroism ten fifteen. I will need you to roll percentile confusion. That's my bane is a ranger. Seventy six seventy six seventy six is going to be attacked. Nearest creature purpose of familiar counts as part of the subjects self. Okay so you're GONNA have all it's a familiar but also and see companion includes in that. I thought they were on opposite sides of the building. Now she'd started circling around but no she's could technically charge her or just run up an attacker attacker. You've rush over towards Wolf. Having Your Blade I talk about human says okay. That is true. Wolf is fortunately not a human but we are hated which is sad. Well the plus she also gets a plus because he's also hates the that's true. I twenty four. That's GonNa that's GonNa mess but now wolf is like a new. We never should have trusted this crazy to execute. I look a little crazy dude. This this thing being psychic is like the worst thing. We could be fighting. It was my turn. It's a radius. No no it has must have confusion aura. Yakima that's sudden but inevitable betrayal. Yeah exactly like flies. Definitely out of the way as secure comes rushing towards her swing her blade ring Yes to crucible your head hurts yeah like a third of my head point just got removed hurts a third. You say so. I suppose now that he's extra extra foggy crucible will first off try to understand what magic is being thrown against him. Okay you may make spoke craft if you so wish I shall. I roll a seventeen for a thirty two. Yeah was the thirty two. You're not entirely positive what's going on with this. As this is some form of psychic magic. I was afraid of that. You do believe that It just attempted to in essence psychically crushing mechanically. What that means is to do. You have to make a will save. If you succeed on the we'll save your second for one round If you fell on the will save you must Afford save if you fell the fortitude save you will reduce the negative one hit points and are dying you succeed at the fortitude save. You take some hip point damage and but the point damage cannot reduce you to below negative one. Hit points our. Jeez regardless though you are sick and for one round and as an interesting side note. The effect has new creatures affect on creatures without an intelligent score. Well isn't that unfortunately I have a lot of that intelligence so the best defense is to remove your brain wasting Dulles Engineering. You may roll it as well. I do have it. Massari is a crucible has under turn. You May as well talk. Technically so technically secure did have a turn she to no. She was confused. So yeah I'll give it to. You can still make the you can still make the role all seven for a and eleven. Nope all right. You think it might be an aberration. Seems Bad Oh Ki Dokey Would I assume with that Roe crucible will know that psyche magic has to be targeted? Yeah you still have to have lineup effect for. I mean there are psychic spells. That don't require that. I'm going to hope that this isn't one of them. Crystals going to pop a potion. Give it a little shake and drink and invisibility potion and then take a five foot step back and Two left ocean infusion or whatever Actually it was a promotion back into the left s into the left in case of targets. My Square very well. He's doing that The night on the Chessboard Maneuver. I was making. Seinfeld is not get the Seinfeld. Oh wait there's more new thing I got from leveling up. Crucible does a little think and heels. Five points of damage. I think I have a spontaneous healing as my discovery this level which lets me. He'll five points per round up to half my level free action super useful getting my mind crushed shabby version to. That's fine. So you think through your fog cloud drink a little potion turn yourself invisible stumbling out of the way thank God. I wish it didn't hurt as much. I don't basically bringing us around to Zephyr as you lower your hand. The fog cloud completely disperses. You then probably turn back then. See this mammoth monstrosity. On your compatriots. Wow that's not good. Oh I should probably stop that thing. Okay so how far away from me? Currently it is currently sixty feet away from you. That's a ways that's not good can do. I have single charge we have I. Don't do the weapon thing. Let's see here so I guess in that case I'm to go on and cast produced. Flame cast reduce flame. And I'll still approach forty feet closer because have a forty foot movement speed. Because I bought some boots. Nice Nice so you call under powers a ball of fire bursts into your open hand so is Russia's Ford bringing us to your under attack. Oh No wolf is also saying I guess being raised across list of Watchi- was saying but we'll say I roll a sixteen for Nineteen. Oh you know I could've used this previously but as immediate action it will also tell it also instructed to attack nearest psychic confusion. Can I make a check to see what this thing is a hearing before as is on it? And then it drives you insane. Eleven for twenty twenty you say With a twenty can identify this. This is a thing known as a soup Gothi. Although more specifically this is a creature notice a soup gothi savant the saga spawned by the hundred spawned by the hundreds by a single new fluid that has performed rituals to impregnate itself. Strange process of being spun in such rituals the SA- Gothia simulates an extensive list of missions from its parent wants this Sa- Gothi completes these missions. It Parishes Single Gothi knows the purpose of these commands but they trust the Nielsen. Masters have reason for sending them amongst these diverse. Unusually cruel missions the saga savant. Our monstrosities engorged on the thoughts of prophets and mystics. They differ from their lesser kin in their mid size in their inherent talent for psychic magic also gothi savant driven by mental compulsions instill by their masters however they perceive more of their masters. Yawns spanning schemes. The most other Gothi in the Neil fluids grant them greater flexibility in achieving these goals. This a Goth vonts dismiss ordinary cigarettes as unworthy drones and largely northern great l. Is a fun side note? The other Gothi revere the sponsors Whiter older siblings irritate the swans. You question pertaining towards the saga. Yeah does it have an aura? I'm figuring it probably does. Does it have any resistances? Like elemental resistance. Is that way you know. Frost is about to throw fire at it regenerates from fire. Something we know. That's a bad idea. Just wants defensibility. Yeah let's just defenses First off it possesses a psychic resistance psychic resilience actually which I don't think is going to matter for landing on psychically tacking it. Damage Reduction alluded to percents. Reduction is a separate question it is immune to all mind affecting effects as well as poison it also possesses spills guy eggs eat follow the guy commanded to tax. Aguirre right so I suppose you spin around Heftier Blade God. I'm sorry Israel's under the guard command which means Israel will attack the services under the insanity commanded for fourteen which is a thirty two and also a threat. Yeah you definitely hit me. A threat rule confirm does a twenty to confirm no okay. Twenty-three confirm no on the plus side. You're not sneak attacking points. I do ten points a damage all right. I don't like this thing gear mad at everything because she's confused. Well I mean I attack. Nearest you have multiple attacks tax. Did Extra Tack Action New. So that MRS. It's a twenty four and came close allies Then it's twenty five. I'll hit you but it's not a threat. Yes and for eleven points of damage will well. That's a that's a problem. I'm okay our frontline is fighting themselves. It's about to be a big pro from Wolf. We go to. Israel is to make a will safe cool lump embalm. She is a cat though she gets a sixteen. No no no. I'm probably regardless. Though so I will need to roll percentile fifty one so she be instant claw viciously at herself. Shield deal Wendy eight-plus strength damage to herself should be declined by herself. Rolling around nine. Better get to make this every time. This is going to be a fight that we all just die out of the put out looking good for us so far. Yeah from Israel we go to the Seagal who will turn its attention. Kinda glances in the direction of the two people stabbing each other to death before turning. Its attention back in the direction of the rest of the party well. It doesn't know where the Viper is. It doesn't know Chris Paul is crucible is all right it turns its attention on Zephyr kind of figured only Zephyr to make me. We'll say yeah. Is it your destination manufacting enchantment affect has a bonus for the low of? I switched dice to all right. What are we add higher? All three eight. Oh boy that's not good interns towards you itching behind your eyes get the Black Stone. Eat that you brought here and place it at my feet so. Sagir has that right now. It doesn't she that is true they do but no doubt once so. You don't know where on her that she has that. Yes so but I I guess I'm going to be spending my turns trying to figure it out L. but you're part human grew trouble. That's a favorite enemy of Syrah news to shut plan. Chad is going to attempt an ear. Piercing scream please do something I now. That's not mind effecting this Guy Sonic okay so he does say that it allows. Her spell resistance will rolled-over coming spell resistance. Twenty five twenty five sixteenths though as a sin a hand towards it actually I suppose as just turned towards it and then you scream although no one else can hear it. Then we'll need to make Let me check it psychic resistance. That will hurt if it doesn't. I don't know what Your Savior D. C. is it gets an eighteen. Sorry he does not get dazed but he doesn't take him over. My God that was the worst Halved is three damage is because none of us are good. We're good good do could do to Scott's GonNa frigging number show more damage than anybody else managed to pull off honestly turns out. This is not a will save party So or less her losses personally listening secure honey another. We'll say boy he's GonNa save every time. I was better twenty three twenty three six six. Thank God I was working from killing partner. If at all by the get up thing in your term with your five attacks Jesus the two of you fighting. Sagir like looks at her and it's like stop hitting me idiot and like that. I started by trying to you but stops yes and I hit the purple thing and I also tell my kidney to attack it even though my seems a little weird right now very well. Do you wish to use acrobatic says you close? You'd have to take the Canadian. Well no actually. You're so I can. I don't have a very good acrobatics. Wrote the attack from see four. Oh eight six six get an attack is to move out of its threaten ranch. I roll in nineteen errol five for nineteen so okay. I was like you're nineteen. Get outta here harsh. Taken that I'm ripping that character sheet up no savings to kill. The party I'll have to do is confuse other now but no one thousand nine hundred nineteen they will so you slide underneath this church for it it also gets in Tunisia close on it though maybe twenty. Twenty-three no I'm hey said so you slide underneath. This is a chops down at you. At this you can see like it's saliva. Is this horrible? Like greenish blue mixture of fluid. I'm going to go ahead and swift action. Activate my elemental assault. Let's go ahead and do we. It's not resistant anything that we know of. Thank stuff. I'M GONNA go ahead and just you know Fire let's be classic air into into flames. And then I hit it with my coach maybe perfect. Twenty seven anatomy of some form excellent That is a twenty five six seven eight at twenty eight to confirm a twenty eight will confirm your critical hit as you say shopping mall coach. Hook into it and just drag it across. Its flesh I don't like being confused. Okay no dairy. Make me believe my own blood wolf bleed. Her blood back twenty vicious wade into this. My hand is on fire. Twenty two damage and then six fires so twenty eight damage. Nice Nice good. Shot a vicious cut as you this. The air fills with this horrible burning smell of this thing as blood and viscera spill down onto you as you cut into it it screeches which you fill almost more in your mind than you do hear it as it screams and rives back from the strike you did seems to have gotten through. Its damage reduction. Also excellent works. I guess sort it. Sorta to death yes it recoils from that hit bringing us the crucible. Oh boy invisible but things seem to be going poorly yes okay. So here's what I want to do. I'm going to try to sneak around behind it so I can get that sneak attack off but seeing the radius at which they all started attacking each other. I'm going to try to skirt around. It passed its border so that I hope we don't get insanity and only can only attack it using the smart brain so what you're telling me is you want to move towards it while also avoiding the it seems thirty foot radius of insanity that big thirty thirty circle around it. And but you're not hastily. I just double move in it all right so you can double move and technically speaking. You could double move and get to the catty. There would be opposite of where security is into the flink all of Your Movement. The stern unfortunate unfortunate fine but I will also drop my my stick and pull my dagger because I'm GonNa really hope that it's because it's piercing slashing not because it's magic actually know stick does more damage never. I'm going to stick to the state closed on it. Go ahead and do another free action. He'll five points probably need them from crucible we go to. Zephyr I will need a will save. Not only am I suggested I assume also confused potentially to work against itself on this my God are you having Jordan luck honestly ruled to this. I'm getting again. Go find and blessed your dice online. So I'm the bad and we like waved. Winston over the table at everybody started rolling. Better come on. We did that with Sophie. Also yes babble. Incoherently as you can't rush up to look at this thing photography find the leader. I need to Kintu stuff more often. This is great almost. Don't care that we're all about to die. Sagir glances back. I'm on a little messed up right now. Well I'm Kinda like Cuckoo for cocoa puffs right now and is studying it. He's assassin rogue. Y'All let's hope so. Because if he choose we'll say they're not our strength here at hopefully has bad fortitude to killing so from. Zephyr God percentile. Actually no it's another say I will save nineteen for twenty two and if that doesn't succeed I'm screwed barely succeeds. Only by as you regain control of your faculty him blood by the way. Have run forward and stay blood very well. Quick sleigh something the slayer will slice something oldest. Watch probably so. I will use a swift action to study target which is plus two to and damage on this thing. And then I'm GONNA run forward. I'm hastings this. Is there a way for me to try to get into the flank? No Right now. Secure and Zephyr flanking the corners. But there's not a way for you to get into the flank. Sorry this first closing on it but you could move air though for is true. No one even knows that you're there all right so then I'm just going to move forward and stab it. It will take the tech Upton News close great. It's a weekly this. This might hit twenty seven. Yeah that'll hit me. I don't know you guys have pretty decent essays speak for yourselves. I have a nineteen. I wear light armor well Katya Murmur it bites you for eight points of damage and I knew can just be that easy I it could have a week attack because it crushes you with brain. That's possible Tyrol S. sixteen twenty six. That'll do so you try to slide in chomps down ripping into your shoulder before you manage to actually get close enough to strike it as it continues to Bob and weave like a giant snake all right so I roll a fourteen for a twenty eight. Twenty eight will strike your target as you die in. Bring Blade to bear idea. Twelve points of damage can assume. Your weapons magical. Yes twelve points of damage as you cut into this thing still managing to get through its debt-reduction as you chop into it. We go to is as makes us save is to on that save is doesn't make the same five will need to roll me. Percents eighty to eighty two will attack the nearest creature. Yes so that would mean that she Russia's forward to attack the creature as yourself she can trip this dry and thing though I don't know too. Many legs rents Ford. She doesn't really great to bite but she try. She gets a six for fifteen. Fifteen will not strike target though well. She launched us to the attack but sadly cannot CanNot get her teeth to actually close around the site of this thing and it's like watching a dog with a beach a really horrible beach ball with thousands of legs. I hate it from Israel. Will you know full out attack? And S- Aguirre initially messed it up. Yeah it'll fall out of texts focusing on secure so it brings it's it's tiny little tail around and stabs attitude it so bad because that's still huge size weapon it's not gonNA powertek. That doesn't know what is missing our attack power so all sorts of raisings regardless though it's swings down at zero with a that's going to be thirty. Yeah wow striking secure for ten points of damage then follows that up with a seventeen nope and a seventeen. Nope so that's the end of it. Sits swings at Youth Rice with its Short Sword three times with clouds buster sword it actually gets twenty one with its bite attack now so you dug underneath the sword slices you once but you duck under the rest of that taking from it too. I'm just gonNA shoot sorry also does regenerate. Oh you know law hitting me. Now that's awful. This thing is awful things. I'm just to shoot it. Please do something we just are going to have to over damage it if we can hit it and not each other. That's the trick. Twenty two to hit the twenty two when strike target as staying in sells off into space. P Twenty that'll do natural twenty will automatically hit threat role to confirm. I don't think of fifteen will confirm though fifteen will not confirm your critical hit sad so I get it for nine points of regular damage and three points. Fire damage all right cool. Where's the assassin come on us? Ask them honest and assassinate does nothing to it. The fire does affect though. But the bolt itself just burns across the site of this. Before bouncing off of its height entirely says slashing it's gotTa be a magical slashing weapons or something that's GonNa be a problem for me. Well you got to not be confused. I now we'll see how that goes. Or you can move out of its range if you ever could move and just throw things at it from plants shut. We go to the Viper strikes. The thing with a twenty-seven embarrasses bleed into the site of it took us. But does it di- makes its desk. Say with a twenty. Six bound to happen eventually sneak attack and all that with that doesn't he. He does still get a sneak attack. Stubbing it for twenty six points of damage as he rams his late into the back of this thing I just shot. It's a cookery so slashing. Hey He wrenches the Bait Blade back free will that did not work exactly as he then recoils bout of coughing as he stumbles away from it. That didn't work. I mean you heard it makes it safe right Zegarra. Let's do this honey. Okay all right. That's a sixteen plus five which is twenty one plus heroism which is twenty. Three twenty. Three will succeed excellent. You still have control of your faculties out. Attacks Does secure eccles please. She swings her sword so many times interview. You could take five footstep to link with the Viper. Sure I'll take a step and then I'll stab at a bunch. Maybe unfortunately it takes you out of the five foot. The with crucible. But you can't Cruz see Jessica's reaction though that's backing murderer it i. Let's see if I can find that in that. Twenty seven camera to see Jessica. Dramatically reacts the things I do I roll eighteen on the data. Confirm so that is a thirty three thirty four thirty five thirty six to confirm that will confirm your critical hit as bring your blade around on this thing damage damage math damage Mitch. Twenty five points of damage a vicious hit. It's still going but a vicious hit one out of five honesty my to attacks and I'll do all the others because this is awesome tax. Yeah that's double. Ace is really cool at thirty. Two thirty three thirty three will strike. Your Flintstone is not a threat. It could imagine ten attacks. Don't take this as a dig or anything at the doorkeepers. But I was a little. My monsters will little relieve when Sagir left the party. Get thirteen damage on that one. Because I'm not counting the fire separately because it seems to do the same. Yes it does all right Probably Not GonNa hit a fifteen sixteen sixteen will not strike your target. That's fine now. Time for the Khukri at twenty five twenty five. We'll strike your target the Taj. Not a great room. That would be six nine ten points damage and then last one for an eleven eleven will not strike a target. You're greeted to bear. Although to be fair you do manage to stab your cookery and once and viciously begin to Bram your copay passion to this over and over again. He's out everywhere from this as we go to crystal will say Oh. I've actually no chance of actually making this definitely. Not when I roll five. The negative negative. Save right yes it does. He mean native kidding. My percents Senator Tower Three. I'm GonNa go and just hit myself in the head. House that filled with your mighty stick. David burst violently blushes. How you do this clean attack home. No what is that guy doing into? He's always doing shenanigans. This is all. I didn't think this through shoes. Thrown frigging alchemist fires. That yeah case should have. But she didn't know. I have no wisdom so I did. What seemed prudent. And your alchemists fire probably couldn't hurt security even if it's splashed on her from crucible we go to suffer God me. What kind of mental confusion babble? Going ALL TASTING OKAY TO BE CONFUSED. I guess roll. I hear Rosner hard time right now. So the creature as an immediate action gives you the confusion command allowing you want to go. Okay I GUESS. I approach SAGIR. Hey what are you doing this? This wolf person attacked me and stabbed me twice suddenly other guys running up. I must take the stone for my master. Wait yes I must think the stone now. What your pack. I Guess L. No you can't I suppose I'll need you to hang honestly now see provoking an attack opportunities in my style. I mean you'd be provoking attack. Tim Because you're going to need to make combat maneuver role because I assume secure is not Gonna. Just let me do this. Yeah 'cause you'd try around. I can just kick him. Yes you're attempting to make a still combat maneuver Kuo's Aguirre. I mean technically speaking. You have improved on our strike. You could elbow him in the face for nonlethal if you wanted to elbow him in the face the first term. Y'All that's not perfect twenty machines you threat role to confirm I saw. He's also human alone ever gave me helping me hitting confirm. I can't do math right now. Why can't I okay? Twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine. Thirty three critical elbowing almost more than my actual armor class damage. Almost on that. No my God. She's listening lethal of curiosity. It was twenty seven and then six points to fire the fire the fire so that was twenty nine. Because you count as human yes. How much of that was the fire? Six Okay so. The six points of fire damaged lethal points. Nonlethal as she elbows you in the face breaking your nose as I need the stone. Give me the stone. So how dead are YOU RUSS NOT? Was that like Henry Point. Yeah seven hit points. Hey So do i. He's a big way. I have the toughness feet and I also putting all my extra points today. I also have toughness three. She still just took out half my hip points coke machine true. Mostly blood going everywhere. So blood splatters everywhere as Zephyr tries to dig in his bag and she just reflexively launches an elbow. I hit some straightened. It required a bit of a Hop. Zephyr super tall really tight. Sierra is five to six three lsu somewhere extra painful own for sure wolf. If I I'm reminded by twelve twelve will not make your will save on Egypt Roll percentile. Spaghetti O's roll it to you. Act normally a confusion all right. So is there any way for me to get into a flank with somebody like you to take my spot and flank with the? He's crazy though. Yes currently crucible not threatening so you could acrobatics to get either next to secure Or THE VIPER. But it's going to be more than five feet of movement so you won't get a full tax just. GonNa stab it All right so I'm gonNA continue stabbing this thing. Oh my God this fight. Is Shenanigans. Crazy. Psychic fights twenty twenty this time. Let's say it's been a lot of High Rolling Mostly Jessica. Actually which surprising sapped Ross's luck? Chaos luck I Rose Sixteen. Which GETS ME AT THIRTY? Two to confirm will confirm your critical hit as you bring late to bear. Get him get him. That death Jason The worm do eighteen points. A damage eighteen still going. I Hate Hugh size things as you. Shop your blade into it. It's mainly draw your way through it's insanity or a plan chat with crappy little bolts manages to take this thing cares at this point who down. It's a win for all of us. I roll a fourteen. Which gets me at twenty. Five twenty five will get it for for thirteen points a damage. You crushed your blade up. An underground for digging. You're not positive what you hit. I hit something vital in their as your blade slices into it in the thing. Thrashes violently before slumping down Pat Storage? And hurting now it just taught. How do we make it stop? I don't know we'd have to know what it actually stops. Its regeneration I can stay and try acid but I don't know well I gotTa Turn I. Yeah thirty nine hit it. The twenty nine will strike your target. You'll straight you're prone unconscious target twelve points of which you sneak attack without being helpless. It's unconscious you sneak attack damage. So it's twenty two twenty eighteen points of damage very nice. It stopped regenerating. Show tap right. Gestion typically you are so I imagine you would do stone to Guar- grapple him. Technically all it said was to get the stone and put it at its feet so he takes the pack and put it at this dead things feet and it's done technically for the next fifteen time longtime Sagarra gives them the stone but also keeps are sort aimed at him put things feet and then one and I put it back in my bag slash pocket wherever I suppose. All of you kind of stared down at this horrible thing. Well that was awful. Yeah that was. That was not fun. What was horrendous. That's what it was. It was a cigar `they savant you're saying that like. I'm supposed to know what that is is pretty killing us. Apparently well it was because it had psychic magic but like I don't know what the first part of it is. It's the spun of a neo. Eth Lid bossie okay. Yes the important thing was that was the welcoming committee. I can only imagine it for a little bit more difficult from here. That's comforting. We should also assume that they know that we're here. A lot of noise PAT yourselves up. It's going to be a long day. I was going to say honestly. I'm more scared of SAGIR Anything else it's one left elbow. You Got Their Vapor. Wanted ALONG MACHINE. The viper nuts. Mo- I did bring may for good reason and let us get ready then returns. 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START BEFORE YOURE READY. BEHIND THE SCENES ON PAYS TO BE BRAVE. WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO HOST A LIVE EVENT & CHASE A DREAM.

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START BEFORE YOURE READY. BEHIND THE SCENES ON PAYS TO BE BRAVE. WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO HOST A LIVE EVENT & CHASE A DREAM.

"He friend or what's up. What's going on. Welcome to the show. I'm Angie and the corporate in College Dropout Turned seven-figure serial entrepreneur and the creator of the pastry brave conference. It's CO founder of soul. CD agreed is passion is helping you to be brave. If you want my secrets on all things marketing sales entrepreneurship cheesy. She's a really big dreams and making money doing what you love them sister. Loin right place <music> Joe Joe so this is your loving reminder and your kick in the pants that you're never going to be ready and that's what makes life really really beautiful. It's temporary and it's is quick and it's short and one of the greatest things I've learned on this journey of launching products and programs and starting businesses and live events events. I've done so many things now and what I really realized is. I don't have all of the answers I still feel like. I don't know what I'm doing lean. I still feel like I'm not ready but I jump anyway and that's my message for you today and that's why I share these behind the scenes peeling back the curtain episodes on pace to be brave because I want you to see the reality of chasing a dream. I want you to see the unsexy Zaid of hosting a live event and if you're chasing a dream right now you have to start before you're ready. You have to start at eighty. Percents done is better than perfect and sister. I promise you you will learn as you go. You will find clarity as you go but you are never going to know what to tweak what to fix. What your purpose is how to make the course. I incredible how how to make your podcast show amazing. How do you put on the live event how to launch the physical product. Whatever it may be it's not going to get better unless you start and that's my commitment to you on the show to keep it real and to remind you that if I can do something you can do something and friend? Let me keep it real. Your or greatest asset on this. Journey of entrepreneurship is not going to be who you know or what you know. It's going to be your grit. It's going to be your boldness S. It's going to be your ability to tolerate failure. It's going to be about if you start before you're ready. It's going to be about channeling that courage judge to start before you're ready so this is your loving kick in the pants. I'm cheering you on I believe in you. I'm proud of you and as always if you love. This episode Sewed Tag Miana Salo Pop into My D._M. I love getting to know you especially if you're coming to pay Z. Brave say hi to me. Stay what's up. I love creeping sleeping on you. I like seeing who are matching a face to a username. I love doing that before my live events and if you have not yet snag snag one of the last tickets to pays to be brave we are eighty percents sold out whole league grandma's tits. It's pretty surreal. I'M NOT GONNA lie. It was an idea in the shower or two years ago so thank you thank you for supporting me. Thank you for showing up for you. Thank you for being braved and I can't wait for it to be one of the most powerful Foale magical weekends pays be- dot Com snag your ticket and let's dive into this episode but was like one or two things that got you to where where you are today from five years ago. I would say two things that aren't really sexy but they're the real truth. One is taking a lot of risks and try and a lot of things and being willing to say look really really stupid and what I mean by that is I usually don't know what I'm doing before I get myself into it. A live event had no idea I literally Google that tax one of my friends who does events. I'm like hey girl. How do I host live events. He didn't know what I was doing. I hired a planner and just went for it a physical product now C._B._d. We didn't have all the answers we kind of just jumped into it and so that's really been my secret sauce and really my biggest messages starting before you're ready so we started before. I'm ready and the number two. I'm really really consistent. I'm really Hella consisted yeah. I think that's an underrated business trait that women don't want to hear because it's not fun fun to tell you that I literally just have to keep going every single day to build the audience. It's not fun to say that it's just putting putting out so much content till you're actually kind of sick of it like you're talking about this thing one more time or Crespo's or go live on this video or this podcast one more time. Oh my God thought but that's kind of when you know you really master your craft. It's like an athlete. They're like how did you get good. You showed up to practice every day when other people didn't WanNa go to practice and it's not fun. It's me sitting here in my house house. It's quiet. It's not a huge dance party. Basically it's just me talking into a mic by myself. I love that so much no showing up consistently and then taking Super Lebron Stanley really embarrassing messy action right yeah. I'm for it. I'm for it and I want to talk about events today because this is such imperative Harridan piece of the puzzle that people gloss over it or you make all of these excuses as to why that piece of it's not for you and so tell us about your where I live event that you ever went to do you remember Tony Robbins and how was that for you okay so first. When did you decide to go to that event. was there something that happened. Wasn't facebook avid slapped in the face so I was twenty years old. Almost twenty one super broke one hundred thousand dollars in debt mice first or second year of college. I was home on a break and I saw the Tony Robbins poster on on the side of the road in Chicago. I looked up tickets. They were Gosh I mean at the time. Four hundred bucks a lot for me to go to something so I think I upgraded the I._V. For Eight Hundred Fifty D. Bucks. I sold my car because I didn't need it on campus. Anyway put some of that money towards my debt and the other part of that money from the card to the Tony Robbins ticket walked in and do voyeurs old no idea what I'm doing but I knew I wanted to motivate women. I started my wellness blog. I was doing wellness coaching on campus. I was giving them motivational tips but they were more like do five push pushups in Hillsdale they like it was very basic health and wellness motivation because that's where I was at it was twenty years old and I walked into Tony Robbins and that was it literally game over and it wasn't even even Tony that was necessarily the catalyst right in this is to remind women it was the environment it was the room it was the energy I walked in saw the look of hope on people's faces. I can still feel that moment. I literally remember looking at my brother and I was like I'm GonNa do this for the rest of my life. I don't know what he's doing how he's doing it. I'll figure that part out later but I'm going to do that for people for the rest of my life because I love seen people just feeling hopeful and it's such a beautiful moment. If you guys have ever been to a live event like Tony's it's just really cool especially the people he attracts people who I mean. We're talking about broke drug got X. Going through pain divorce death illnesses disease cancers. I mean it's really intense than he's helping people feel hopeful again and so that was in for me that was my first live event and the rest is really history. Aw Girl went into that event because we could sit there and watch him on video. We could go to youtube like all these things right that keep from investing in an event wise that immersion Malaysia such a shift or why was it for you. I believe the energy transfer is so unique to the room and the live experience which is why created pays fee brave because a woman can listen to my podcast. She could buy my courses. You can buy CDs. She can do all these things that are digital or tangible but I can't fully transfer a feeling or emotion unless she's in the room with me and so for me. I realized that the greatest gift that I can give someone at Peasley brave is not necessarily the sale strategy or here's the blueprints you pitching or sales those are marketing and all the secrets and it never shared with you on my show share and that's not really what it's about. They think that's what it's about like. I'm bringing my pencil. Here we go. I'm GONNA learn something about sales. No one's ever said before like mobile. That's not it. I'm not going to be like Mrs. It and I've been hiding it from you. Not really what it's about. Yes they're going to hear from speakers bureaus and how they built it but really really what I want and really why do it because I want that woman on her flight home or on her drive home to have these chills almost like this station in her body of what it felt like to feel alive live. I know a lot of the women who attend event are not happy and they're not joyful and they don't know what it's like to feel abundant financially and emotionally. They don't know what it's like to be an awesome relationship having awesome career they. I don't know what that feeling is. It's four into them and so for the first time or maybe it is somewhat familiar to them but it's reminding them. I feel that I'm creating space for her body to note. It feels like to join. We've own abundant in happy and then from that place that's where she can set goals. That's where she can dream. That's where she can manifest but if alive state we can't attract anything that we want and so over me. I'm actually transferring energy transferred emotion and she's borrowing that. It's almost like realestate. She's whoring that positively that energy that I have that she wants and she's taking it in now. She's he's GonNa go live her life and go do what she wants and I do think that then at any point in her life if she's having a bad day she can remember that feeling that emotion that she had at my event whether that was from dancing movin- movin- shouting screaming crying cheering with her neighbor whatever that was that's an emotion that she can embody and she can replicate at any time so that's what I think. I don't know I mean when you can share what you think about events that I think that's actually the biggest thing it's never the knowledge. It's always the transfer of confidence in the transferred energy. It's like the belief you need in yourself yelling from some of these people all the energy but it's almost like you need that energy to see a wow. I can feel the belief in myself now instead of just hoping for it instead of just striving for belief. I actually sleep feel belief. <hes> that's such a beautiful way to put it because you could literally be the best saleswoman in the world best marketer. You could have the best product that gets the best results literally you're the best of the best but if you are not confident enough to show up share it and be shameless about it. It really doesn't matter and if you don't believe it's possible you're never going to have the business or the income that you want and so it's first embodying the belief which is true beliefs dictate our actions if someone doesn't have the belief system ingrained than they're never going to do the action so for some reason you have a belief system in you right now now that you are abundant in your school and you created this identity so now you want to share that with other women and other moms are you. I had to believe that and so yeah. It's a transfer of belief so what you say to the women that are sitting there going. I'm missing this community pieces immersion piece of this puzzle but I'm afraid I don't have any friends that would go with me. I don't have have the money I have kids and now I feel guilty because I'm not worthy to leave them behind and go further district. Like what do you say to those. Excuse it yeah excuses right. They're not the real. I feel like you probably teach this. Mom's being a mom and I'm not a mom yet but there's this sense that they don't deserve it. There's this mom guilt right of. Who Am I to get on a plane and go to this beautiful. We'll place and spend forty eight to fifty hours with incredible women and change my life like that sounds like a dream for a mom and you have daycare even at the event which helps a ton and that's why that's amazing leaving by the way we do that because I was like you know. I don't think other events you this. I'm GonNa do that so then. Mom's realized that they could do both and it's an side and that's why by tattoos literally Anchor Sam because because I'm like okay a ton of MOMS following WANNA come if there was daycare that would really really help them so I feel really happy about that but I would tell her to. Drop the mom guilt in a sense. I think taking a weekend away way like that or if you do bring your Kiddo is one of the most powerful things that you can do for yourself and it's a way for you to remember who you are and what your identity is outside of just being among. I'm on your woman with this huge dream the more successful and happy and abundant you are the more powerful you can show up for your kids so if you're actually not doing those things you're giving the message hostage to your children that you're not worthy of that and their mom isn't available for that and I can't wait to show my kids at Hey. I do still go to events. I work out. I take care of myself. I do all of these things so I'm happy he person for you and I think that modeling is so huge and children's see that and they feel that they can tell us mom is dressed in hasn't been on a vacation by yours done that and especially with the business business expense cool. Write it off and know that it's something that is going to help you and I always say going to an event. A few days and getting on an airplane is so easy compared to actually running a business yeah running a business. That's hard. It's really hard. Entrepreneurship is hard but I think taking a trip somewhere. It's doable. There's always been you can kind of figure out or move around so yeah I know for Moms uh-huh though it's another level of dedication commitment to themselves for sure and I'm so grateful for the moms you really take a moment to say. You know what I'm GonNa do this. I'm GonNa tell my husband or I'm gonNA. Bring the kid but I'm going to make this happen because I'm worth at deserve it amen to that. I told my husband I started planting the seed like two months before I was going to get the ticket and like so you know how you're going hunting <music> for the whole month and Scott Camber I really miss the conferences and like these empowerment and I'm like I should go to Brian. He's like yeah. You should make it his idea idea ladies. I'm telling you really don't want to say so. I want to go to this event and it's going to cost X._Y._Z. Because all MINCY is not yeah. Don't leave me with the kids. Lord forbid like save me make it his idea. That's the best advice that I can give you so I had said there's event planted. The seed planted the seed and he's like. Didn't you say you wanted to do an event and I said yeah I think I found the perfect one and so anyway he was great. It was his idea. It was so easy your genius. I think that's the key and I think also saying to them. This is going to make take me a happier wife and mom. If I go I just need two days to refuel my tank and a Lotta husbands now gosh I would hope so. They want their way to be happy and to make money. Why not don't y your wife to help out and make money and be happy like that's what I would want is us but I don't want my life sitting around being pissed off? I don't know I'm super liberal and lacks this but like let her go live her life once in a while. I can't imagine how much work you already put into on the day to day being a mom. You MOMS deserve to be there than anyone. Maybe I'd just make a mom's retreated treat him not even San Diego. Go on the beach because let me don't even need to get into this conference is go get him and take a nap honey. It's out K. Bring Your your pillow love those so much 'cause that's just your interfere as just you telling yourself. You're not worthy of event for whatever reason you'll never be writer. You'RE GONNA wait till Phil Timmy enthusiast eighteen and then all of a sudden. You're going to start living your life like I think we all are waiting and waiting for the perfect moments through the perfect. Wait until we have all the money until the the kids graduate. We pay off the house. I mean we're just all waiting and life is now infused little mini vacations and moments of inspiration now because motivation is something you have to work on. I went to Tony Robbins two months ago in L._A. Here and I didn't go because Tony was GONNA taste that I've never heard before and that was like my eighth one. I went because I felt like I needed it again. I needed to be a room with some amazing. People just feel the energies. I literally spent thousands of dollars to sit front rope. Just feel energy you guys. I paid for energy. It's not even a tangible thing I can hold onto through. I'm like I need to go feel good. I'm going to go do this kind of feeling like I'm in a slump and I need to get amped up before my event. I'm about to start ticket sales. I need to get up and I just wasn't feeling it. I was in a phase where I was like Kosovar. Doubt even people who you look up to or you think are successful or leaders. They are going to events. They are constantly joining things so they can keep fueling their own tank. Thank because motivation is like brushing your teeth. It has to be done every day or every few rusher teeth every day at least every few days. I'm always odd cast. I'm always always reading. I'm literally obsessed with Kozly stain in that operative momentum so then I can transfer that on my show but if I don't feed myself that even as the leader that I can't go be a great leader so for you ladies. You're listening to our network marketing leaders. Are You coaching business. Do One of your best investments in your job is to stay in that state in high vibrational state so you better be going wherever it is. I don't care if it's a yoga retreat in Bali. You've gotta go do what you gotta do. I'm not hiring people a coach. A leader or following people are listening to you. Don't seem to be taking care of themselves and so it's kind of a catch twenty two but right off his business expensive grab opinion. Let's go what inspired you to start an event like this. Yeah I had been going to a bunch of them especially here. In southern California there's a ton of business and wellness events and a lot of them are either super boring and they were run by men and they were are these really intense masculine energy sales conferences yes where they were like. Okay now funneled Kanak Your Egg or twenty. Four four hours worked for seventy two hours. A day. Never Sleep. Tell your children goodbye like really intensive. I'm taking notes on my facebook kept on these events that are like just hug your neighbors. Susan tell her you love her in a fall from the sky and like you could do whatever you want because because you're Unicorn Pony and I'm like what the actual F is going on here especially living in so cal weirdos unite right so I was like okay. I am this mix of Wu in realistic. I I work my ass off super realistic about how to make money how to execute. I have a masculine energy I can channel but I'm also pretty blue and I believe in manifestation and law of attraction so I think think I wanted to make it something where it was a blend of both at it's fun and it's a party because I'm a seven on the ground but it's also realistic and the fact that we're teaching sales and we're teaching marketing but in a very a fun engaging ways. I think education should be fun. I think people only learn what it is fun engaging and so that's why I created it and I thought to myself. How many girls in my community are really lonely? They're listening to my show and they don't have friends right now. We understand them. Their husband thinks they're crazy. During this online thing and what if I could get them to meet so it's not even about me. It's about hey you can. I bring this community together and now I get the girls who are like. Oh my God. I roomed with Susan last year. No Susan's my best friend and I'm like that's a greeted their mom the mom I created this is so surreal but it's cool to know that you created something bigger than yourself and now I'm helping women network and bring them together and I think I just love hosting theme parties and having a good time so for me. I was like let's do this now. Keep in mind. When I came up with the idea in the shower I was describing my armpits and I was like oh. This would be fun so I wrote it. Oh my little shower notes great by the way you need shower notes people. I shower now. I think you do it in your story. That is brilliant because I have these literal epiphanies that comes through in the shower hour and I think it's because it's the only time I'm like literally quiet and still and you're not in front of a screen Y- and taking notes on my little pad lying event for women who are ambitious and it would be in San Diego and I thought I don't know maybe you'll cost me like thirty forty grand. Get some balloons. I'll hire a D._J. That's about a grander to bike yeah yeah. That's GONNA be perfect. Okay cool so I my friend Mike. Hey I'm GonNa do an event some on the call with my vet platter and she's looking through my vision and I have a detailed. I'm like we need this. Moss Wall John these neon lights in this but don't worry it'll be cheap bright and she was like for the way that you want to do this. This is about two hundred grand and I literally spooked by pants. Oh my God and I usually don't have sticker doc. I had some sticker shock that was crazy for me but I had already really committed and was already mentally all in and when I say I'm GONNA do it. I'm like Oh man. I gotTa do this on my shower notes. It's real it's real. It's happening to already told a few of my best friends like I gotTA. Do something like all right. I'm going to do this to my first event. Cost me about two hundred grand. I put it on every little detail the most exhausting intense thing I have done in my business it still is. It's now a little bit more where I'm out of it in a sense planners do most of it but it's a lot. It's it's intense. My first year was about five hundred fifty girls superfund three full days love sharing that with women so they realized that it wasn't like I was an event tanner headed background in event signing or wedding planning denied even had a wedding so I knew what I was doing no idea financially. I didn't know emotionally. I didn't know the investment I do. You know how exhausting would be speak another people stages but it's a sport to speak. Speak on your own stage for two full days. I didn't know the post show blues. I didn't know what it's like to have almost five hundred hundred going online to each. You feel like I'm just tired. I need a piece of pizza whose own a law like it was a lot. It was really attend but also the coolest thing I've ever done. I cried at the end because I was so proud of myself for not quitting I wanted to. I wanted to cancel it a few times but I realized that would make me kind of a hypocrite. Canceling pays be brave due to being afraid of talk about embarrassing. I tell that to you because you're never going to be ready right. I'm reading a book right now. I don't I know a lot about writing books book and I'm GonNa get a lot of frigging movie to buy it but I don't know shit already book. I think that's kind of the reality is like I don't really know about what I'm doing. is they. Just kind of do you can do that. You go and then you get better. You have all grab it this year. You're going to be blown away with how much growth you've had in your event real quick if you've been a longtime listener or a longtime creeper of my stories which I hope you. Are you know two things about me one. I am a total baby gramma grandma. I love going to bed at eight P._M. I love my baths. I'm basically twenty nine going on ninety nine and you also know that I am obsessed with adorable gym clothes. I'm wearing yoga pants all day long yes right now. I'm wearing yoga pants. Recording this episode and I'm obsessed with active wear that's not only trendy and cute that I can and we're to the gym and then we're at a whole foods or weird to my errands but that is also affordable. I don't know about you but I was sick of pain four hundred ninety nine thousand dollars for every single pair of Yoga Oh pants right and I don't want to say the name of the company but it rhymes with Graham and and I just I wasn't down for that anymore. So here's the deal if you're anything like me and you work out pretty much sixties a week week or you're really active healthy girl. We go through an incessant amount of gym clothes every single day which means more loads of dirty laundry. I don't like doing laundry so I find myself. I self by more Jim close to avoid this issue. You ladies know what I'm talking about. So let's be real for a second buying re Ramin every single month basically depletes absorbing account and you know I would like to use that money for organic salmon and whole foods or C._B._d. Or maybe a trip to Hawaii. Okay so what is is the solution. Don't you worry. I found it for you. It is an amazing company founded by the beautiful amazing. Kate Hudson called FAB athletics. I'm super excited to be partnering with this company. I'm already already so obsessed with Yoga pants with pockets. I go on a morning walk everyday listening to podcasts and I was really tired of fully my phone so it's really cool to have these yoga pants to have the pockets. I can put my phone in there when I'm Jim Music or listening to podcast in the morning or at listening to music at the gym so here are the two things that I really dig about Fedex. They are on a mission. Shen to empower women live this healthy lifestyle and to make sure that it's accessible to everyone and the waiter doing. This is one giving you an exceptional price point and number two. They have sizes. It is for women of every single shape so it doesn't matter what you're paying account is and it doesn't matter what size you are is for you so before you forget my friends at. Fedex are offering you an incredible incredible deal. 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I know less figures more this less that I know where we can kind of fudge with the budget a little bit I know I want to change the stage where I'm having more boundaries now energetically so I'm not exhausted on Sunday. I'm not stay. I'm really playing around with it but the only way I would know that if I actually did it you wouldn't need a P._D._F. You couldn't have me watch a youtube video and say Okay Okay and on day two. You're gonNA feel like this. You'RE GONNA WANNA do this. You just don't know you're not trained how to eat what you take. Are you drinking coffee. Are you not get such an intense experience that I think it's probably like earth. No no one can really send you a pediatric like dude. You're just going to be there and you're just going to push and you're just going to go and then your second kid. You'll know what to do is going to be over thousand women. Caridi was seventy. Five percents sold sold out listen to last row. Do you want to hang out with Angie and I hear her seventy five percents old act to scare them. They're like this sounds like a really intense experience and don't worry at the text for me guys. It's a party for you. Do you might be back stage hyperventilating but we we are going to be dancing. She won't die. Don't worry it's weird. It's preparing for another level of evolution and growth and expectations. Expectation hangover is huge. What is that interesting. Hasler uses the term expectation hangover which is essentially this feeling after you do something big where you don't feel the way. You thought you would write like wow that was it. It wasn't that cool. I thought it'd it'd be cooler or it could have done this better and I think it's beautiful statement because after my Serotonin was like Oh okay I pushed so hard to focus on and then it's over. It's almost similar twins after the hunting witter wedding like Oh man the now the party's over now what so I'm kind of having a healthier balanced going into this year. I'm also not putting so much pressure on myself of it looking a certain way or this imperfect door. Moss Wall is Magenta instead of a dark purple. You know what the show goes on like. Susan WHO's coming in hopefully won't care releasing some of the control over the perfection of it and it's just a different beast launching a course launching a podcast. It's so easy now compared to live events. I'm excited. I did them no matter. What happens with them if ever do in and we're don't whatever? I'm glad I've done on it because I can now see how those skills can then apply to other things. Who is this event for Angie somebody listening. They're like but it's this long for me or should I. How do you know what event is for you. This event is for two different types of women but they have a lot of overlap and that woman is the ambitious woman now. She could be in category a where where she added nine to five. She's not fully happy. She knows she wants to do something more but she's not sure really what that is. She has that earn in that fire to create something. Maybe it's starting at sea shop. Driven Network Marketing Company started coaching business start a blog online podcast. She wants to do something create. Something starts and she knows she has a sense of leadership in her and she wants. Go out there and do that or it's for the woman who already has the established business. She's already entrepreneur but she's burt doubt and she wants to go somewhere where she can reignite that fire and that passion and remind herself vice she does what she does or to relieve grow the business into scale the business until learn sales and marketing so regardless. If you are at your nine to five and have a side hustle or you don't have decide how Sony more right but you're just ready for fun and you're ready for the next level then it's for you. I really created it to be the number one personal development and business growth conference. I think that merging those two is really important and then I also put a huge emphasis on wellness there. I think that's a huge deal to have health and wellness there. Whether it's the vendors or the experience because being healthy has been such a key to be a successful entrepreneur for army so it's a blend of business biohacking which is cool too and if you guys watching Andrew Stories you know that she drinks tar on a daily basis. She is that healthy it literally looks. It's like a piece of poop. Eat It purple poop though because there's blue so good guys it's like frozen blueberries organic greens and Chocolate Protein Kale frozen frozen banana. It's like the best why comes out black. I don't know my boyfriend N._C._A._A. I'm literally make fun of me. They're like this is Disgusting Edgy. Don't post this. Don't show people this. They're gonNA think you're gross and like I'm showing them air like them what they're missing out on right now. I don't have cooking skills and got him kind of funny because my boyfriend's like Oh my God. You can't cook look for Shit. I'm like I literally. We all know how to scrambled eggs. You can blend though you can blend like can somewhat blends them stuff together. I love that so frothy girl. You're listening. They're like okay. This pays to be event. This sounds so intriguing. I definitely WANNA come hang out with the engine staff. You have some crazy speakers coming. Talk to us about who's going to be there. All of the amazingness that you guys are going to be putting into the world yeah yes some of the gals that you guys might know our Laurie Harder Charlene Johnson Chris Harder will be there. Jordan Dooley's going need to be there Erika Sheffer <unk> Atop Network Star photography and influencers and top marketer as well will be there so everyone is kind of a different space but also so somewhat of a similar space. Sam skelly great friend will be doing breath work and then also teaching business so we've got some woo with some. You guys can expect a lot of D._V._D. A Meditation Adaptation Station will have green juice. We'll have samples. Gosh the I._P. Girls Goodie Bags and a dinner Saturday night. There's a silent disco which is essentially where you put. The headsets on Sudan is pretty much going to be my wedding be there he is you know it's all money going to this so that I would ever have anything else for my real a wedding one day right so let's do the damn thing. Oh my Gosh I love that. It's Andy's leading and the headphone dancing thing I saw you do that. Girl activated and I'm like what is happening running like you're just alone in your own music headphones like what is this thing so you don't hear anything. If you walked into the room you would just see a bunch of people with headphones on dancing and you'd be like they look like crazy easy people but you're listening to music and switch from A._B._C. Everybody has a different colored headset in you could be listening to rap or then you can switch it and be listening to classical music and dance your butt off you feel so alive. I just feel so happy and for some reason because it in your own head through the headphones. You feel like you're more confident you really weird yeah go for it. So common on wave frequencies is to let loose man you moms the MOMS eat it right. We gotta we gotTa let loose letter weird flags why once in a while I just useless let it go a little bit part of being successful like I said his embodying that emotion and dance and movement is so critical for that so whatever it takes to get you in that mood is so important and that's why I wanted to make sure there was a lot of dance parties so get ready to move guys wear comfy clothes has this event. You're not going to be really sitting balance. I am so excited so any we last words of advice and g four the mom that she's got this business going. She's aspiring to go next level any last things you want to leave her. I would say that I know this is something that you really really hone in and teach on. Don't forget who you are. I think that's such a huge part of Vietnam is bringing your best self to your child and in order to do that. You have to be vibrant unhappy and take care of you either. That's your health wellness. Whether that's going to conferences whatever that is your children see who you are and they're going to become who you are now what you stated that. I think that that's really really important and I also think there's this level of you deserve it. You deserve to go to the conference and get on the plane. You deserve to invest in that business chorus of the mastermind. You deserve to take the vacation away. You deserve to do what what you need to do in order to be happy in order to get you in that vibrant state. You're really good mom so do what you gotTa. Do you guys come with us. Go to billy slash pays to be brave event with us. They winners daycare so just give your little monkey too the daycare <music> <music>.

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Top 5 Comics Podcast - Episode 139 - Covid-19 Crossover

Top 5 Comics Podcast

1:43:06 hr | 4 months ago

Top 5 Comics Podcast - Episode 139 - Covid-19 Crossover

"Hi My name is Jerry. Daycare and I may comic book. Illustrator done a lot of self for Marvel Entertainment. And I'm listening to the top. Five comics podcast. A man a man my. I'm glad a man can talk. Yes people talking about comics pop culture and events today. We're doing so number one hundred thirty nine and this is GonNa be a crossover episode with a few of the fouls from comic talk. Six one six as dumb as we did it about three years ago with our guest Jerry. Care so we're going to run that for you here. As far as the show is different than normally do hope he has enjoy. I'm GONNA wind yet. Ati was a little rough but the situation in place where recording things happen so follow. Is that in advance Hope you guys enjoyed anyway. It's good good good. Good conversation But it is a little rough audio wise Next absorbed back and we have is price where y'all next episode number one forty. Enjoy the Enjoy the crossover episode to make sure to go over to the youtube page. 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Victoria Vang Rivera

Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast

1:24:34 hr | 4 months ago

Victoria Vang Rivera

"Greetings everyone this is Asian America the kin-fong guest and I'm your host Ken. Font I'm recording this on Memorial Day and it's a beautiful day in southern California little bit hot but nonetheless Beautiful Day Actually went on a bike. Ride this morning with one of my friends and podcast listeners. Ashley both have electric bikes in left his place and Yada and ended up going to Chinatown than Jay town and then East. La and finally back home. If you've been listening to the last several weeks to introductions that I've been dealing with chronic pain in my lower back and also besides so how in the world was able to do this right not only today but Yesterday I wrote twenty nine miles on my own and the day before that road a twenty three miles with my friend. Jose I think part of it is Definitely thinking getting some benefit from my twice a week now visits to the chiropractor and visits to this acupuncturists But the new ingredient in my treatment has been Finally got to go see my primary physician and You know he basically just said Hey. This is all part of getting old. Your ended up having desiccated. Dissing your back and You get arthritis and Oscar Stephanie. Quigley wrote me a prescription for one week's worth of princess all stairs oi a steroids for my hip and He gave me a muscle relaxant pill and really makes a difference so you know definitely concerned about Not being able to move really for the last two months or so put on a little extra weight and so I think yeah probably overdoing it right. Eighty six miles in three days. But hey no it was time for me to spread my wings and fly or at least pedal and ride my guest. Today is Victoria Rivera and really excited about bringing her to you. Because she is among American and As one of the a groups ethnic groups among Southeast Asian Americans I think many of us have heard of Mong. But we don't know a lot about them and I was fascinated to learn of her on the age Merkin. Podcasters association Facebook page Because she has her own podcast called American born wrong and she was nice enough to make the connection with me. And just deal with a lot of my curiosity. My question so I I really think you're GONNA learn a lot as I did From my conversation with Victoria Rivera in just a moment. I also want to share with you. A review that was written of our podcast by a friend of co-producer Alison Chang. His name is S K J Lee and he left us on May fifth on his instagram and he put up as a title intersection. That's the word I'd use to describe this podcast. Canonise guests show US how diversity? Api Community really is and how all our identities have an impact on how we interact with the world. For example. Some of the first episodes I listened to featured guest. That identified is Queer asian-american Christians because of the way. Our society likes to simplify things. We don't often think of folks who hold all those identities it's been encouraging hearing. How even though some folks regardless of community may reject them for their identities they continued to live into the fullness of who they are also was especially encouraged by another guest misty irons. And how she gives an argument on White folks with quote traditional unquote views on marriage should continue to respect and love the queer community while this podcast doesn't claim to be a Christian podcast. It's done a good job of challenging. My understanding of who quote my neighbor on quotas and has also allowed me to recognize who I've overlooked in my own communities so thank you very much S Key for that wonderful and positive review of those of us out there who also enjoy this podcast and the work that we do and the people that we put our microphones but you have yet to rate and review us. Please please do that. You can do it on whatever platform that you're listening on. It really helps our podcast show up as people are searching for something worth listening to my wife and I when we adopted our daughter even before we became parents. We had made it. I think mental decision to not be tiger parents and more specifically when it came to religion that although we have a preference Both of us were raised as Christians. Well my wife doesn't come rechristened family. But she was going to church ever since she was a young kid We definitely WANNA raise our children that way but with the understanding that they had to kind of come to make a decision themselves at some point In order for it to have any meaning. And when you you know understand things that way you understand that your children as they grow older aren't always going to make decisions like you hope they will so our daughter now is twenty one and she's home studying online because of this shelter in place order so we're having some unexpected family time like every day that normally having a junior in college you sitting out of state you wouldn't have so we actually were talking last night over dinner and we were sharing with her some updates about kind of what. I was talking about and last week introduction Waiting to Kinda here the decision from the board of my previous church where I retired Whether starting this coming July with a review okay for me to return to the church or nut and Our daughter just blurted something out and she said well. I think this is a good time to share with you. That this whole thing with the Church Has already kind of really messed with my understanding of what is what things should be like and I guess I grew up thinking that church was a place of no politics and quickly corrector wherever. They're people guys of what they claim to be. There's always politics but does not have to be nasty but you know she just said well you know it's it's really soured me so e even if they say he can go back I'm pretty sure I'm not going back and not sure on that interested in going to any church right now. In fact I'm I'm kind of thinking more like an atheist. Now What's interesting is that You know she chose to go to a Christian liberal arts school and it's not like Bob Jones University or Liberty University with Jerry Falwell JR senior. It's a it's a pretty. I think moderately progressive school and yet. She has so many friends who she's met there. Who are atheists agnostics? And you know I. That kind of really surprised me. Like why would atheist or agnostic. Choose to go to a Christian College in. She was explained to me that well. You know maybe the This particular school has a program and some majors that are highly regarded. And so you know you go and you just kind of turn off to out all the Christian stuff you don't go to chapel. What have you and Most of our daughters closest friends are in that camp. Our daughter did say that she She still has an affinity to some of the essentials of the Christian faith. But she's really trying to figure things out you know if this is really her faith talk about the chickens coming home to roost for years and years. I did workshops on the development of of people's faith and just like our physical buildings develop over time like if you threw a fastball at three year old and an expected here she'd have the physical coordination to catch it. That would be cruel and unusual. It'd be child abuse. If on the other hand you know the person is thirty. Years old and you throw a fastball. They should have some capacity to catch the ball. They have developed physically and the same kind of thing goes with like intellectual capacity unless some kid is a genius. You know you don't bother teaching them higher math or world geography. You know when their third graders but or even philosophy but you know when they get older that there's more of a not just a curiosity I think there's a there's a building of the brain to actually manage more complex thinking and I found over the years that the same is true for how spirituality and so Lattanzio taught you know there's four identifiable stages of our fake develops the first ages. Imitative so this is where you know. Let's say you're born into this family and it's a Christian family and you could be religion right Guy Christian family and so without knowing what it's all about without exploring it for yourself because you're little you just imitate but rebels is doing and especially when you're a baby. I mean they just put you in the armed put in the stroller and they take it to church or temple. Or what have you and you see? People Bother head so you buy your head. See PEOPLE CLASS THEIR HANDS? Either you see them do the incense. Whatever happens in that particular religion and that doesn't make it fake for that person. It makes age appropriate to be imitating you get to a stage Maybe in later. Elementary School no Middle School. Where it's adoptive and so now there's enough capacity to think to consider so you now can choose if you will to adopt the beliefs and practices that you were initially in imitating now a lot of people a lot of us if we go on these kind of spiritual journeys we kind of stalled out either. Stage one imitative or stage two adoptive and so some people. Just just keep going through the motions imitating everything. That's going around them imitating the beliefs. The stated positions. What have you without giving it much? Second thought or they just get stuck in adoptive and so they're choosing this but they've never kind of thought about what else they might choose and this leads to the third stage of spirit veldman which again paralyzed parallels Brain capacity because usually around young adult time is when the brain is most able to deal with deep Complex sort of issues and this is called Searching individual so this is when the I think you know perfectly describes were daughters at offset your questioning things that you dated without question and you adopted pretty readily but now you're saying well. That was my parents that came from my church that came from whatever my peer group but Now I'm really wondering like what do what do I believe and It's it can be very lonely time. I mean no one else can go on this journey of a real searching and I think it's scary enough that some people put their toe in that uncharted water and they run right back to adoptive. Or Imitative and this could even be pastors and priests right and and leaders And I think it really shows over time if someone who's even in a leadership position in a religious capacity has not gone on this journey because their beliefs are pretty shallow. They haven't really come to own it which then leads into the last fourth stage which is owned faith gay and It doesn't necessarily mean that when you if and when you get through the third phase of searching that you're going to land back into faith that you originally started with you did start with one you. May You may. But you may find that. You're much more enamored of. Let's Jesus then the church you see now the church will all of its Hypocrisies and and so. You're much more focused on the person in the teaching of Christ or the Buddha. You know if you will Or You come through on the other side and you're you're just a straight up atheist or agnostic or you're going to try something else altogether so what what so. I definitely commend our daughter for being so forthcoming with us. And you know a lot of ways This is how we raised our daughters so that she has this space and this personal capacity to ask the hard questions of us and her faith and everything else you know. It's too soon to predict where if anywhere she's GonNa land but I just have to say that on this Memorial Day in twenty twenty. It's just fascinating to me that something a theory of development that I've taught for years and years and years is now coming home to roost. It's it's we've got our own living breathing. Human young adult who is is wrestling with these. And I'll tell you it is. It is scary when as a parent you still. Even though I've gone through my journey and I've owned in think my wife has to you still realize that part of the authenticity in the validity of believing these stages especially the third stage is truly give this person in this case your our child the freedom and the affirmation that she needs in order to do this without thinking. She's disappointing us. You Know I. I can't imagine how that must feel for someone who's Pastor's kid to right. It's not just having Christian parents. But you know retired pastor so that's just interesting update on life. I think parents who don't understand and others imposters who don't understand kind of how this development works. They see the phase at our young adult daughters in as running away like as discarding disbanding. And I think that's a mistake and clearly what she share with us. She's really wrestling with with some of the things that are still holding onto her but she wants to make it hearse and you know as her dad and pressure. My wife would agree if that's her goal is to land somewhere or she's not just going through the motions where she's not just mouthing things that she's been raised hearing all the time that's worth that's worth the struggle and we're going to walk with their way with her. I hope this model helps some of you out there Understand your own journey or maybe some of the journeys of the people that you care about and especially if you haven't heard of this this particular model. I think it explains a lot well enough about that and now get ready for my stern conversation with my guest. This week Victoria Rivera in you Victoria. It is so so wonderful to finally meet you in person. I've been listening to your american-born Maung podcast. I was kind of in the dark. I listened to the first two episodes in the summer. And then it kept checking and it's like nothing nothing and then just this week you posted your episode and you explained why radio silence so why to the podcast. But tell tell our listeners. Why there was this multi-month gap I am praying and so for sure method of my pregnancy. I was feeling very thick and lots of brain fog and I just thought man you know. Let me just give myself permission to take a break. Because I was really adamant about getting these episodes out but I was just not feeling myself at all. You know that God is the ultimate excusable reasons so you already have one little one idea. She is three years old. Okay so you already getting with the toddler so I when I saw your name Victoria Rivera as I don't know a lot of last names but rivera doesn't sound like one. No so my maiden name is Victoria thing okay and then my husband is Rivera But he is a half Chinese quarter Filipino and a quarter Okinawa. The river the Filipino part has data at. Oh okay all right. So in Hawaiian Luau language. Your daughter is kind of a plate. Lunch Rice were mixed plate right. Yeah my wife's from Hawaii. Yeah well so I was I drawn to you because of your coming out with this podcast and and so I I'm probably not the only one. In fact I think a lot of East Asian Americans Chinese Japanese Koreans really don't know very much about among people right and and yet know you get grouped in that umbrella term. Api Are Asian Americans. So I thought this episode would be a chance for you to educate me to educate us on what does all about so I would like to begin by asking you like what prompted you to do this podcast and and I get the sense. Having listened to author of your episodes that you are someone who believes in going to therapy. I mean it sounds very reputed when I listen to this so anyway. I'll let you explain okay. So this podcast has always been. Will this idea. It was initially a podcast idea. It was more of just an idea of creating a platform where I can provide jeff life advice and encouragement but I never really started it. Because I've always felt like I within expert in this field I you know. I'm not an expert in therapy. I'm not somebody who's like a life coach so I never really Felt that need to go a must it But I guess just life experience. I became a mother. I'm a stay at home mom but I have always wanted to be in a career. My husband's in the military my parents got divorced and I was an adult child and they got divorced so much stuff was happening in my life and I guess you can say just. I came to a realization that I don't mean to be an expert. I I am an expert in my life and that anybody who resonates with my story you know. They can benefit from it so This actually I'm working on becoming a voice. Actor has actually just had yes. I got studio equipment and you know I was feeling I've always been very passionate about mentorship and I've always had this bug where I'm like if I'm not doing anything I need to do something so I started volunteering for a an actually a nonprofit. They're called the having roads refugee relief. non pathway. And then I thought Oh you know I feel that the bugs so I decided. Oh maybe I can do a podcast that way. I can really reach out to the community and It was actually not meant to be for. The community was thinking about The youth rate on. There's so much going on right now and there's so much stress for the young kids college students and even myself. I have family members who often talk about how stress they are about just life in general and I just thought I need to make this podcast and I guess after some reflection I decided to do about my identity. American-born mall but not necessarily talk about being among the title itself. Right says that I am American board mom but what I want to talk about is stripping away identity and really just. Who Are we without this mon this or this this just who we are because being Hong relative to other Asian ethnicities for example Not Very many people know who we are and he sensually. Sometimes it can feel like we don't exist are we're invisible and so I wanted to create a platform where we could all come together. We know who are where we're from. Who are history is who we are and we can kind of. Just come together and talk about. How are we as a person you know without always having to introduce ourselves like we're Maung and pants refugees because this is the narrative that we're always telling my show that it becomes it kind of feels like it's a part of us but we kind of lose ourselves as well and American identity. I guess yeah well when I was listening to your Three episodes especially the first two where you really got more into your owns a stress and struggles over growing up as as this kind of to identity American right on the one hand. I related that even though I am third generation right but I couldn't help thinking if my my parents were now passed away their second Gen Chinese Americans. If if they had been you know at this time at your age I think they could have really benefited from hearing someone to address a lot of that. Bicultural bilingual sort of identity. Because there simply weren't those resources right there was no internet right everything you turn on the TV or three channels and everyone's Caucasian. You know I mean there was just this whole kind of white overlay of everything and I think for people of color coming of age at different periods of this country's history. I think it must have been had to be so much more difficult right. I mean I had my own struggles as a third going up in the fifties in the sixties. But but from what you're seeing you know here. We are in in the twenty first century. And you're saying well but as a young adult Not Not that long teenager. I too had struggles as much as America has woken up to its racism and prejudice so so some of that was it felt still strangely relevant and sadly so. I would like to think that you know that. It's not so much of a struggle. So do you find yourself like looking back and asking some older people and then like how did you guys do with this stuff or you just kind of planted where you are and saying. I don't know how they did it. But here's here's what we're dealing with I you know it's interesting because in my journey trying to rediscover Yeah the implanted or it can learn from my parents experiences I would say ultimately I realized that at least just in my experience our parents and grandparents experience is so different that I have to essentially find my own way because I'm first generation American born and And I'm learning everything about America on my own. An our parents there my parents. They learned about America in their own way. But it was like you said is such a different time. That for them is about survival right but for me. Now it's it's still about survival but like in a different context in just a different. Everything's just different. And so even when even when I asked them about like let's say Like college you know they would have a very different perspective on where I had to get there what you should do and what you shouldn't do whereas I may just feel like doing what I'm passionate about. It may not bring in a lot of income right so we hit that narrative. But it's still very very different and And it's even more different for my grandparents who you know. It's very like tough love and they have no problem telling you they'll kick you out. You know to be fair to the to the generations that left war right and that kind of stuff. So like hey. If we had a choice we would still be in southern China allows you know wherever they were. But it's like because of the circumstances it was life or death and and so we sucked it up is a classic Asian cultural thing so we we were willing to make the sacrifices were willing to go to a completely foreign land where hardly anybody is like us. No one understands our language. Our English skills are almost nothing but we want a better life. That's why we left. We want for our kids our grandkids. So then we give you these opportunities and you squander them like okay. Hey thanks a lot for the trip to America and now I'm getting. I'm going to think like an individual American and I'm going to do whatever I want. I mean that's been the classic. Rub Right where. The generation that sacrificed and suffered to get here had dreams. They were willing to take on those hardships. So that the succeeding generations would benefit from it. And so I can you know. I think we we were Asian because we get how that doesn't automatically compute across generational lines. Yeah and I've actually asked my grandma I asked her. Do you want to go back if you could? Would you go back and she? Interestingly said no that she she understands that where she is now is much better than where she was Back then But that she doesn't deny that the struggle is real. It's hard but that he is blessed to be here what Southeast Asian country. Were your grandparents from so The most most people most people like my parents and grandparents they came to America from loud and then and then from Lhasa Thailand when they were fleeing fleeing from the government during the time the war so they came in Thailand and then to America assumes refugee camp refugee camps in Thailand and then to how long how long they stayed in the refugee camp in Thailand I wouldn't I couldn't tell you but they I know they stay there for at least a year or so even or more Even now they're probably still individuals who you know. Yes they have a lot longer than they want to. Yeah those are not great places to stay a long time. Do you remember growing up hearing them. Tell some stories of hardships and the refugee not my grandparents. You know they don't talk about it unless you ask. And even if you ask they may not want to talk about it Even my mom and my dad I do ask them. But my mother says that she doesn't have much recollection of what the refugee camps were really light except that it wasn't the best conditions and that It was cold. Yeah so I don't really remember or my mom. She says she doesn't remember much with with a young kids then in the refugee camps. Yeah yeah on. The among came issues young kid. My Dad came and he leads Maybe like teenager okay. Now what I was able to find on the Internet So you may have more current numbers but as of twenty eleven two thousand eleven there about two hundred fifty thousand a quarter of a million Mung Americans and mostly living in California and Minnesota. Do you know if if the number is much bigger than that now. Probably yeah definitely and I can understand moving to California and and My experience with Mung in California's been mainly in the central part the Central Valley Fresno Right Y weather wise. Why in the world would mountainous monkey route to Saint Paul Minnesota? I'm in Minnesota of all. That's a good question. I don't know I couldn't tell you but I know that many families came on sponsorship. So it it be just you go where the families are where you have relatives and you kind of hunker down regardless right. Because they don't really have a choice so I'm but I can tell you that many people do move at my parents. They weren't in California. My mom she came to Colorado first and then her family moved to California so there are a lot of people that move around especially if there's family there already than than it's easier for them to move and build a life there I I've come to understand that Many of the people in Minnesota were talking about mostly white American MINNESOTANS. They missed this really hospitable attitude towards New People Right. I mean some of the largest number of Chinese adoptees is to Minnesota families. I remember being at us. I Dunno saint. Paul was a small regional airport waiting to catch a flight to somewhere and a plane landed. And all these Chinese infants were coming off in the arms of their watchers. Whatever guardians and there's all these white families waiting to receive the right and with their balloons and stuff and as thinking you know I again. I don't know the circumstances that made all these usually girls There was the one child policy in China. But now here the are now. They're going to grow up with that kind of Minnesota accent with blonde. You know family and so it wasn't surprising to me when I also heard how many Christian families in particular's in Minnesota sponsored Southeast Asian refugees. So I think I think you're spot on right that basically the door was opened in Minnesota. Yeah I also remember reading in the La Times of decades ago when this first started happening and the the monster showing up in Fresno Lot of these folks were mountain people they. They hadn't really lived in residential city kind of things and they were put into low-income government housing. And the article was talking about. And you know maybe this is not all the families but this one particular that they were highlighting. They said they'd never seen a toilet before and so they are won't. This is a great place to wash our rice right and clean and then they oh I guess this is the wash button and then the rice disappear right right or they would. They'd never used a stove and so it would build a little charcoal fire. There and I was just I still remember this because my mind was just being blown. Because it's like. Wow these people it's like they're living further back in time and then they're just kind of through a time tunnel dropped into modern society. I would imagine that that kind of stress especially on the parents to head put tremendous pressure on the families and stuff I mean is. Is there a history? Were those initial families that came. They really had to struggle. Not just with language and stuff but just a different way of life. Why Yeah Oh. Yeah definitely and And you know I I feel like it's unfortunate 'cause for me. I wish that I could speak to my grandparents more about their experience. But there's a language barrier so I I can't them and like I said for my parents when they came to one story that I remember is my dad said that when he got off the plane the first thing he noticed the snow he's never seen snow before and he was just amazed by this white thing falling from the sky and how he lives just fascinated with cars in that there were so many different types of cars So yeah think that that the my parents experienced were more of like fascination and and just all of these new in completely new things In terms of Cheryl. I'm sure they have many many struggles. That my father. Talk off in about the discrimination. He faced and being spit on and getting beat up in Yes so it was definitely not very pleasant at all. Was there also discrimination? Coming from more Americanized more established establish east. Asian Americans like Chinese Japanese Koreans. I haven't heard any storage so I can't say or I don't know most of the time it was white Americans that were doing the hurt. Yes 'cause I would say maybe if I would guess that there is just looking at myself. I have to put so much effort into really understanding and learning more about Southeast Asian Americans because there's such a East Asian American privilege here longer. There's more of US someone when people say Asian American even Asian Americans say that they're they're thinking East Asian maybe Vietnamese. 'cause lavas eating food now but but. I'm pretty sure almost no one who's not mauling thinking. Oh and I also mean Bunga American right exactly. Yeah so yourself growing up I mean did you. Did you have to kind of push back against this blind spots among non Asians here in this country where they're just making these sweeping generalizations as well? That's not true of our culture. That's not true of our history coming to this country Well I feel I grew up in Sacramento and in school. There were plenty of in wreath Chinese Black White Mexican so I was fortunate enough to grow up in a very diverse school setting and I personally have never dealt with in terms of like Other like Vietnamese or anything. Oh you know that's weird because there is more of a camaraderie that you all kind of stuff together and hung out and more open to one another but my my experience was with my own individuals where I might seem a little bit. Hugh American to whiting. And and I'm I don't know if it was because I excelled in school or if it was how I spoke or how I carried myself because a lot of times when I'm at school I'm not speaking mall or I'm not hanging out with more people I'm hanging out with other people and so that was my experience in school so luckily I didn't have to deal with that. Where like you know You know fight other Asians about what is age. What is you know good? Asian Bad Asia and and a a lot of my friends were actually Filipino and beneath a and In Chinese yeah. Well now I know what you have a nine one six area code. Yeah because I'm from Seattle. That's where I grew up. Okay so what high school did you graduate from? So I went to Monterey trail high school I was the first class to graduate it's because it's an elk grove. So yeah I'm late. I graduated high school in two thousand seven. And actually I was I was born and raised in Sacramento from I guess you can say a middle school. I was still living in fact but I was going to middle school in Elk Grove and then I went to high school in Elk Grove in was actually a culture shock because elk. Grove is majorly white and and I remember my freshman year. I went to high school and it was. Yeah it was a culture shock. Because there's all white people and I couldn't believe it I was like Whoa. I'm used to seeing like black Mexican and Asian but this is so different. The vibe is completely different and I think that's when I started to become more aware of my Asian Nests. At least because there there wasn't any that many people but I definitely saw that. I was definitely different and And then I had to move to another school. Because they're building another school nearby. Graduated from there. Yeah when I was up there. Elk Grove cornfields right so go out nearby first. Corn or practice. Practice driving stickshift. Right all these cuts. He wrote my senior year. I went to mcclatchy so my senior year. My girlfriend actually was at elk grove. High School right and so I just never have to drive way out on. Florin road this like there's people living so it's Sacramento really expanded south. Yeah Yeah I mean. I grew up a couple of blocks from William Land Park and zoo right. I think mcclatchy also okay. Yeah Anyway I was wondering about your name. One six area code is like. That's that's not an east coast back a little bit more into the history. You mentioned the war so you know for people who don't know which war we're talking about the end of the Vietnam War right so during the Vietnam War There are many mung in Laos. Right living in the mountains. I'm do you know anything about how the US armed forces were connecting with the Maung there in Laos especially with that bombing going on? And and all this stuff. Because there's a reason why the communist Viet Cong would have persecuted the Mong after they won the war and so can packed a little bit. Yeah the American. Cia came to love and told them home. People that they want the Mon people to fight for them as a guerilla for units and Essentially what they would be doing would be a saving American down pilots but who were sending supplies to There yeah who were sending supplies across a to Vietnam might think and so happened with that. When America pulled out of Vietnam of the Vietnam War a lot of the soldiers were left of the home soldiers and families were left in low and they became refugees of their own country and so the latest in government. Thirty prosecute persecuting Mom Families is they were essentially. It was essentially home. Genocide and many families had to flee their homeland into Thailand and I remembered the first documentary of everything because back then when I was in high school. I don't ever remember really learning much. Well we don't learn about on history and in school and so a lot of what I knew about my home. History was either through word of mouth or what. I've read on in the news or online which was nothing. Yeah right now like you said. You've been googling and you can see so much more information right and but back then the documentary. I remember watching was I think is call hunted like animals by Rebecca Summer. And it's a very graphic ache But very real Documentary about among families who fled into the jungles who are being hunted by the government by the Pat Lao government and so It was such an emotional experience for me because is just imagining my own family. Fleeing that I. It was heartbreaking so Many people fled across the Mekong River. If you speak to any person they will tell you about you. Know crossing the Mekong River to get into Thailand and from Mare going to the US and I believe some went to France in some went to Australia so They were essentially. Yeah just everywhere now. So I'm assuming not. All the people fled after the war is that is that correct assumption. So that there still are indigenous. Maung people somehow survived all the persecution and genocide. Yeah Yeah Okay. Do you still have relatives back near the not. Let's see not of. I know that my grandmother her mom we still alive not too long ago so we probably like if I if I for me personally I probably have like a great aunt more or you know cousins of cousins. But I would know personally if I do unless I asked. Yeah like they're not gonNA send you birthday present anytime soon. Okay now I read online It was actually in one thousand nine seventy five. There was a Indochina Migration and refugee act familiar with that. But that's kind of what opened the the door the floodgates that allowed a lot of the Mong that were stuck in these refugee camps to immigrate here to the United States. Are you familiar with that? I've read about it but I can't. I'm so I feel like America has a history of kind of recruiting indigenous people to fight on their side against a common enemy with all these promises like. Hey thanks for putting your life on the line. Thanks FOR LA. 'cause when the wars over we're gonNA remember you and what you did and then very conveniently like America forgets there was all of these Filipinos that fought on the American side against Japanese during World War. Two there snow fighting to this day. How many how many decades later to get the G. I. Benefits that the US government promised them. It's it's appalling. there's GonNa be a float in this next year's Rose Parade that I'm going to help work on and is going to commemorate the contributions of japanese-american American Chinese American and Filipino. American veterans during world. War Two right and and it's like but it's being put on by like Chinese Americans because America in general just forgets and unfortunately it sounds to me from what you described Victoria. That America did the same thing with among soldiers. Like you know all the raw. We're on the same side we're not gonNA forget and yet they didn't seem to remember enough. I guess until the passage of this act you know to bring them over but anyway that's just one of the tragic and sad and not nice parts of American history and wars is just break too many promises Walker. So this podcast is about. I'm going to get back. I'M GONNA get back to your podcast. Have you know in listening to your episodes? Your target group seems to be other Manga. Americans younger like yourself. Maybe even younger than yourself to help them. Kind of deal with identity and worth and and this you know the these different tensions. Have you gotten any feedback from from some of them as they've listened? And what kind of feedback have you received mostly positive feedback? Fortunately I was really nervous. I wasn't sure how the community would receive that. Because it's so uncommon for us to not be passive ray to talk about our feelings to talk about being mom and so a lot of people to my surprise have said that they look forward to more and more episodes so that's encouraging and I'm hoping to to eventually be able to unpack you. Even more you know. Some of the challenges that are arising between the younger generation and the older generation. Because there is this gap that's happening where younger generations? You know they may not be able to speak mom anymore. They may be losing touch with their culture or Jeff doing things a little bit differently from the traditional view and the older generation you know they may not necessarily know how to communicate to the younger generation in a way that is nice and understanding or empathetic and then the younger generation may not know how to communicate with the older generation about what they need in order to help them. So that's kind of what? I'm hoping to get hugh eventually in these podcasts. I mean and this this again is not the first time in the history of immigrants to America where this generational gap problems occurred every new immigrant group regardless of what time in this country's history again we go back to the first generation comes here. Maybe through great suffering hardship with with great dreams and hopes for the next succeeding generations. But then you know part of part of what I did. My doctoral work was saying well. This is the part that you guys didn't anticipate you first generation. You didn't anticipate that. Americanization is GONNA occur. Okay so I actually build up this little model in my dissertation where I said Okay. So like every stream of non indigenous people they came to this country is like a fresh water stream with fish in it that starts flowing in America. So there's this long stream there's a German stream whatever okay and every first generation fish in there. Let's say to trout. It's excited to be in this new place but it also wants every generation after them to be trout they want them to be freshwater fish so they put a dam on the on the stream right and sometimes the dam is a religious organization. Sometimes Mozart Group right and they built this big freshwater lake in the like. Yeah you know like our children. Our Children's children. They're gonNA speak perfect among they're gonna you know. Think Long I but what they underestimate is the power of gravity assimilation and acculturation. Your kids are going to American. Schools are watching American TV YouTube. You can't shut those influencers off and so that second generation. Kinda like you is what I call Salmon. So you're morning in the freshwater but you actually go to school in the ocean like go back and forth and then your kids your little mix plate children right there. They're going to be true saltwater fish. Okay so just because they're office along this flow of water. You can't throw freshwater fish in the ocean neither. Can you throw a saltwater fish in the lake and so I find since? I'm a retired minister? I find that many immigrant churches Asian immigrant churches that are freshwater churches. They hire a salmon. Youth Pastor right limit bilingual little bit by Israel younger than the first generation people and they basically build a saltwater tank in the freshwater lake and they tell the youth pastor okay. You got all these little saltwater fish make sure they don't leave gay and like it's a losing proposition and so all those youth pastors end up failing to meet the expectations of the freshwater fish right so so my my conclusion was not just churches but we need organizations even podcast all along the flow of the water out to the ocean right and and some of what you experienced. Victoria was the merging mingling of different streams. In the bay called the baby transitions so you hang Filipinos and Vietnamese right there from different streams but you have more in common and then eventually. It's the anex uncharted waters of the deep blue sea. And so I commend you for what you're doing because each generation needs to hear from someone who's gotten a little bit further than them or is done for different reasons done some thinking about this because they're not gonna get it from the generation before them. Exactly Yeah yes yeah it does. Yeah no this is GonNa say yeah and I definitely. That's exactly why I wanted you the podcast because I thought if not me then who if if I have the will to if I have the idea and if I have you know if I want to take that risk of putting myself in the community than do it and my fear was in shamed by the Community Ray. Yeah I or being criticized I guess because and I was surprised to. I was thinking about the why am i. So why is there so much pressure? Need to do this podcast. I'm you know they don't even know that I'm doing this podcast but it feel like they are going to be critical and I guess it's just you know I don't I don't know if this is the same for other Asian but I feel like being mall it. If feels such a tight knit community that were on birth family. You know we call When I when I me other people other sisters they call me sister. You know they call me or you know I call them. Brother SISTER ON T. It's not just Mr Or Mrs. It's grandma GRANDPA. So I felt like I was speaking to my family. And and you know it just becomes very very personal because our stories either so personal and and traumatic and you know and I knew that this podcast would touch on that trauma of the war and aftermath of the war and how much in May resonate with some people and how some people might not like. That might not like that. I'm talking about sensitive topics that You know may catch up on relationships and how Because this sends doing my podcast. I've heard people say oh you know like how dare you not to meet this differently but in the forum? How dare you seem so ungrateful for how much parents size you know? Course there's that shaming culture. I think it's just You know and my podcast is all about talk about it. Honk about how much you hated growing up in that in that environment and and it doesn't mean you're disrespecting it per se but just you need to talk about it so you can figure out how you can heal from it but there will always be somebody from the other side by in generally. It's from the older community older generation. That says shame on you for not being grateful for what you have and you should be thankful. Yeah yeah I mean one time? I was in Toronto at a conference of Chinese Christians and I was speaking to the EMC. The English side but one session. They brought me over to the I inside and I had to use a translator and so I was essentially saying Kay. I'm third generation your first generation. Basically you're looking at your grandchildren when you're looking at me. Okay as my wife has japanese-american like I have a clean knees a black nephew a white sister-in-law and this chinese-speaking passer stood up and he just started yelling at me in Cantonese now. This is what I was glad. I don't understand a word. Because it's it's like Charlie Brown's teacher like so then the the interpreter basically kind of paraphrase. He wanted to go into everything he says. Basically who are you? Meaning me who you to stand here and say the your profit from God and that you can see future okay and then. I said back to the translator I go. I don't need a crystal ball right. It's like this is what America does okay. I am living proof of that game so so I feel like there's there's there's you probably appreciate this since you also appreciate therapy there. There's a model of human development that I really buy into okay and I think it applies to all humans regardless of generation and culture and it says essentially the first stage of every human is bonding and so like your little girl and this child. That's coming it's like you need to experience over and over again that you're just a gift and loved unconditionally. Like an to bond into this family circle K. While some kids because of war and refugee and trauma right or parents going through a divorce or bankruptcy or unemployment. Some kids parents are really distracted. And or maybe there's a special a kid with special needs and so some kids finish bonding never really feel safe and secure in their place in the world and I think kind of goes back to your third episode talking about worth okay. I think the war really comes but then I think Asian especially first generation Asian culture families. We take bonding and then turn it. And and kind of warp a little bit and so so it's like okay so if you're not doing or talking or behaving the way I think you should then I'm in a threatened to kick you out. I'm GonNa that the greatest threat is like I'm an unbound. You your long to be my son or daughter day so so I feel like it turned into bondage. And then just go you you. You struggle to get to the second stage. So the first is bonding seconds boundaries. So okay I don't think this is an American individual thing. I think it's healthy for you can tell him. What the therapy to. So it's healthy for people to differentiate so it's like I'm not you. You're not a okay so we could actually have different thoughts and we're still a family. We're still bonded to each other. If you see one a stage of development which is bonding and then warping. Meaning one forming a boundary and differentiating and making themselves distinct is now bad right. Okay and then I think when sufficient healthy boundaries are set. Then you can go to the thirsty age which is integrating goodness and badness maybe think of this because because when some of those people are saying to you in those forums well look at how grateful you are you say no actually I can. I can complain about these things and still be grateful to at the same time. I know it's black. It's either or it's like no. It's okay so already they're still stuck back. And then the forest age which I think is so rare but so necessary is becoming adult peers. Okay so as as your children grow up. I mean you wish you hope that they will become your friends like that. They won't have to run to you and your husband for permission to cross the street right. You know by this color car at some point. You go wait a minute. You're supposed to be a grownup now. I mean I still may not like the car that you bought but then your money. You bought that car right. I'm happy you know how to buy a car gas in the tank. So that's it's like bonding boundaries. Integrating goodness dentists and becoming a dope peers. Eight fine because especially of Asian hierarchical thinking like sometimes it feels like we're peanuts stuck in peanut brittle and so even though you're forty or fifty or sixty you're never appear of your parents or anybody. That's your parents age. Because you're still young right right and I feel like that's not an American thing to actually become peers. I think that's an overall thing right. So I'm I have to confess. I have that grid that that developmental framework playing in my mind all the time so now was listening to your episodes over. Tori is on her way. Lexi's she becoming coming more and more mature person and so beyond the Maung stuff right. This is what you said. It's like no. You're just talking about human stuff exactly. Yeah see so I get you. Yeah that's also so you know. I think I guess the question I wanted to ask you this to follow up questions one is how are people finding out your primary demographic. How are they finding out about your podcast? What do you do to let them know? And then the other question. They're not related. Is I want to talk about multigenerational. Ptsd like the passing on of Comma. And now what you understand about that. So first question is how. How are you reaching the audience that you WANNA reach? And if I had to be honest social media Facebook and instagram. When I started this podcast that was a very big question for me because I personally do not have any long friends so I yes. So that's that like I said when I went into this I was very nervous because I it was reliving childhood trauma. I maybe not long enough Hula. My I don't been hang out with people. I don't listen to music although I love it when you know where my family listened to it but essentially I didn't know many home people outside of my family and I used what I knew how to use best wishes social media and I knew that it would be hard to get their attention so I've been doing a small projects on the side on a facebook page as kind of like an attention getter also to keep the conversation moving. Even if I'm not releasing episodes for example like you said you waited and and there was no episodes and so I want. I kind of predicted that that might happen so I wanted to do side projects so in the summer. I did a American-born Mall interview where I would interview American Hong just talk about their lives and I would post that on the page that it would get shared. And that's just Kinda how people found me and then this fall. I'm doing an anonymous letters of american-born Maung so they submit their letters to me. Honestly about anything they can write to anybody they want and outpost that up on our page and so many people resonate with it and they'll share and that's just kind of how I and getting people to come onto my page because everything that is posted on that On facebook is essentially everything that I wanNA talk about on podcast right. So it's also a great way for me to kind of gauge. What is relevant in the community and what is not and You know what works and what might not and so. That's kind of just what's been working right now in how I bring people Onto the platform to see what we're talking about. Most quite brilliant. I commend you for that. Yeah now the other question. Are you familiar with some of the research? That's been emerging about how trauma can be passed on biologically like so. You could be second generation removed from the war in Vietnam and without even knowing. You're still carrying the trauma of your parents that they got from their parents. Yes so Since starting podcast. Actually I knew that I wanted to learn more In terms of the mental health aspect of Ali refugees right. Because that's my family so I did do a little bit of reading not too much. I'm no expert but I read this book recently. Called the it didn't start with you and I forgot his name but the book is called. They didn't start with you. And he talks about the passing down of genes of a you know of trauma and EPA GENETICS. And how essentially when when somebody when? Let's say your grandmother experience some sort of trauma that will impact you later on in life and you may not even know it because your genes have already you know have have developed a way of how to cope with that trauma so it could be like depression and could be you know whatever it is that you're going through. You may not even understand why you feel a certain way but it's because of the genes that you inherited from your grandmother who experience that trauma and and I know that I read that it was also due to the fact why would let's say Groups of people like maybe refugees and immigrants are so resilient is that also because of the genes they're also able to easily adapt to set changes and and and Know just yes that changes like war and and different displacement and things like that. And that's why you know it may not necessarily be depression but the resilience is so so high. Why I hadn't heard that upside so. That's that's encouraging. Did the did the author talk about on the downside depression anxiety you know those kinds of things. Did the author say? There's a way to heal from those things or wants to trauma enters the gene pool. It just to the ninth generation of your family people are going to be carrying this like the I remember. It was medication Yes I remember specifically. He said meditation and there are things that you can do. Change how the it's either neurons Connect in your brain is something like Bauer your genes how your genes react. So I don't remember specifically but the book is very detailed about how you can actually change that. Yeah or a how It Not Change Your Genes. But how your body reacts to certain Stimuli? Yeah yeah no I mean meditation. I mean that's kind of leaning. Into some form of spirituality I was reading again online. That Many Mong deck in their home countries were animists. Her did your family have any particular religion were they. Animists Buddhists Christians. Something else yeah. I actually grew up with my grandfather being shaman and so it was like a double life really because it's so different from America. What they would expect right? So it's very different So I guess you can say animism is is a main mainly what? I grew up with And I actually didn't learn that's what it was called until much much later. Would maybe even college right so I did grow up with my grandfather doing shaman ceremonies practising practising spirit calling and and like if you get sick then you do you. Germany's to you get better. And so if for people who don't know what challenge are their spiritual healers who go who are able to travel to the other side and do the healing. They're virtually interesting. I mean almost sounds like medicine men. Yeah right right yeah. The Birkin medicine men It seems like many indigenous people have that role like some some. Some people had that kind of ability to go the other side and deal with the other realities and all that kind of stuff. Now your husband given the mix of his background I'm guessing. He didn't grow up with a Shaman in his family or so. I'm just curious. I'm curious George. I mean so. So how do you guide especially with children like is there any kind of chosen form of spiritual practice that you have as a family? I they entered to. That would be no and that if there. If we were to do anything it would be me because. Hey He's like he's Super Americanized. He does it you know his family. They don't go to church. They go practice. City being spiritually so would be me. Who is probably I would veer more towards like the spiritual side and and if anything I would reach out like my mom's a shaman so I would reach out to my mom and ask her. What would me to do? There's something that I feel like. If my daughter is very sick then I would go to her and ask her For me personally. I believe in the power of prayer so you know I I pray when I I'm feeling like I need to pray and I burn incense and And I feel like my my spiritual background in terms of like my mom and my grandfather you know. They're they grew up with it. It's kind of instilled in me that there is something there that I can believe in and ask for help when I need it. So that's kind of how I practice in our family and then my husband's just kind of there and he'll support me. He supports me and we have had like a talk about it. And he you know and he's just kind of like well you know. He grew up so differently. He doesn't know how to feel about it but I think that But he he feels like he. You know it doesn't matter because he's parts me. He respects it. Yeah now. I'm not sure when you're episode is going to air right now. We're into the Christmas season. So I'm when I meet a fellow. Asian Americans who are not coming from a Christian or Catholic perspective. How do you view union with your child? How do you talk about Christmas? Is it really just an American holiday at that kind of what it is? Yeah Yeah so you a and you have presence and right all of that so so I remember when I was much like high school. And what's more of an asshole I I would. I would question my Buddhist friends like so like. Why did you guys ever Christmas Tree? Like it's like and in those days. I just? I didn't fathom that because I was. I was deep in the Christian culture. I didn't fathom that Christmas is also kind of become this American secular time of year right to to have these various. Trappings in your house. Smells like a forest through. You know those kinds of things so you know I would certainly not challenge anybody today but I just think it's interesting that there's you know certain practices that have just been grabbed hold by American culture as a whole and saying no this is. This is kind of our calendar. Right this is the rhythm of our year right now. Your husband is in the military is in the army. His in the navy over Navy does he go to see his on CD. Wow how many months is that. We've been on. He's been on CD for what he's not out to see but he does go out to sea. Yeah he'll come back in the but It's been about three years since you've been in Virginia and so that's how long he's been on. Cd We actually found out that will be moving next year. So we're excited to wear yeah. Washington Oh naval space there or something. Yeah Oh okay. Yeah unfortunately when we're recording this recently there have been three shootings on naval bases. I saw that like what's going on harbor. The one is North Carolina. No Florida Florida. Pensacola Pensacola So anyway I just hope they figure out what's going on and yeah yeah. Yeah you'd think just walking around on a military base. You're not at risk but you know well. I think people would probably have the you know. They don't plan to come out alive. No killed themselves right. Yeah Yeah Well. On that very depressing note. I don't want to I think. Now racking my brain Victoria I think I I found out about you on this facebook group that we're both part of the Asian. Broadcasters Association is at Yeah Okay so shout out to Lee and Andrew. Who are the ones putting all this work? It's just amazing to me. How many asian-american podcasters are out there? Right now and and so I just want to give them credit because because of their work I founded about your podcast and causes been are always on my radar to get other than East Asians on my program. It's like that's when they miss it. You and here. We are talking. Whatever works. Thought you had about being nervous. I hope you found that you are a natural kiss. Thank you and it help. I mean achieved. What it is that you hope to gain from this. I was really excited but I was super nervous because like I said it's it's probably just as idea that you know I wanna represent our community while and and so yeah well again. I think that's the Asian voice in your head and in the American voice says. Hey you know what? Who's an expert? Yeah don't want to do it and it's better to get it out there so you're helping some people and other people think you're not qualified or I'm not qualified to bad turn it off. So that's right. That's what I feel like as a bicultural like I'm getting kind of the best of both worlds. So so there's this hesitancy like I don't want to over. Speak OR SPEAK. GotTa turn or yeah at the same time. It doesn't like I don't have something to say. So do I wait until I have a doctorate in this? And then they're going to be some of the doctrine the opposite position and then you still don't get to talk so thank you very much for for being who you are and forgetting your message out there for many of our listeners. Who ARE PROBABLY NOT MOWING AMERICAN? I still think you should tune in because there's just a lot of good human healing self worth development stuff that Victoria puts out and and even though. I'm old enough to be Your Dad. I mean I felt like that's really good and I'm encouraged. Younger is already waking up to a lot of these things that it took me longer to figure out so think you're way ahead of the curve. I think especially the young Manga Americans. Listen to your podcast. They're going to benefit so much both because of your own experience understanding of the Mon Culture but also the experience of being an American so good for you that you didn't talk yourself out of doing this. I'm yeah Yeah Yeah I. I think we'll all understand if there are other gaps as you go along with the second pregnancy a like Like okay at least now. I know what's going on. I thought you got kidnapped or something or Arna or the first generation Mafia took you out or something yes saw a lot of. It was a lot of like writer's block to Amino because I really wanted to talk about. I really wanted to talk about the trauma the war but I just couldn't get to it because I don't know I ended up talking about self love so last thing. Are you ever going to have any guests on your show? I hope to this season I did it. More monologue Talking because you know it's more of like I have so much I wanNA share. But he did eventually want to bring on people and interview them and talk about them because as of recently there's just at least just in my experience since doing this podcast. I've I've connected with so many different. Markan are doing many many things you know we. We have a sunny Lee. Who was a? She's in Olympics. Yeah she was doing very well and the community was plotting. You could see it. You know so proud of you know. I think we just had our first judge. I'm not sure not fresh VEG- but yeah I judge of something. I don't remember that there's just so much going on right now. Yeah I think as you bring on some of these other people you will you will actually be going beyond your an experience right. I mean that's that's what I've discovered in my podcast. I can't represent all Asian Americans but I can bring a whole bunch on right. Okay now you just let them on and so anyway. I just think that that'll be another a good addition to your your podcast program because yeah none of us know one. Individual of any stripe can represent everybody else's experience but we can get the ball rolling. And I just want to say that you're I think serving academy the agent right like you're you're getting. The conversation started in certain healthy direction. And I just wish you all the best on your second pregnancy on the continued growth and success of your show. It's just the life full the talk to you. Yeah and I'll continue to look around and learn more about your community because you know you're you're part of this broader Asian American identity and we need those gaps Yeah thank you so much for having me a pleasure talking and I look forward to more episodes from your pockets. Thank you can you tell our listeners of the earl of your podcast your social media identity so they wanNA follow you any of those things they can. Yes our pocket or my podcast is called American board. Mom You can listen to this on. Apple podcast. Google Google play spotify and inker You can also find some facebook American-born Hall Instagram American-born home and yet and just reach out. If there's already the has any questions and or just come onto our page. We have a lot of Interesting topics I think would be definitely be relevant to the Asian American community and also would love to hear you chime in to in the Forum. Terrific WELL ONCE AGAIN. Thank you for accepting way of attention from the other coast and and and I think that there's just GonNa be such an upside to what you're doing. Not just with the PODCAST. I think you're an amazing person so I hope we meet in person some day maybe at an age. Merkin podcasting convention or something. The offense I'm on the West Coast thin. I'm in California. Yeah that soon. Now what's freaking Asian America? The Kampong PODCAST is directed by Ken. Fong and produced by Ken. 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