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"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on AM Joy
"Volumes are after the break. I'm here because I believe that William Bar poses the greatest threat in my lifetime to our rule of law into public trust in it that is because he does not believe in its core principle that no person is above the law instead since taking office, he has worked to advance his lifelong conviction that the president should hold virtually autocratic powers that includes immunity from nearly all checks and balances and being able to accord special treatment to himself and his friends. Welcome back to am joy. We'll for anyone still on the fence over whether attorney. General William Bar. Is indeed the cover up general this week? Provided damning testimony that our nation's AG is acting more like the hand of the king. Remember last week. trump and bar fire Jeffrey Berman a US attorney in Manhattan running key investigations into trump's allies attempt showdown that exposed once again. That bar is not serving as the nation's attorney general, but instead serves only the interests and Wims of his president. Bars pattern of political interference in law enforcement to serve his own beliefs and trump's in the presidency is a kind of American monarchy is exactly what to career officials address under oath this week along with former. Deputy Attorney General Donald Air. We also heard from errands Alinsky current federal prosecutor who withdrew in protest from trump ally. Roger Stone's case. What I saw two lodger stone was being treated differently from every other defendant, he received breaks that are in my experience, unheard of and what I heard repeatedly with this leniency was happening because of stones relationship to the president. And, then on Friday new on just how quickly bar allegedly began interfering in cases that impacted trump and his loyalists shortly after bar was sworn in for the New York Times spent weeks in the spring of two thousand nineteen, questioning prosecutors over their decision to charge Michael Cohen with violating campaign finance laws, the personally prosecuted Cohen Jeff Berman the man bar fired last week. It's not just a pattern emerging here. It's an assault on our nation's judicial system in our justice system, but according to bar in an interview on Thursday, it's all just business as usual. How do you answer voter who sees a pattern here of continually upholding the personal interests of the president lied say that there is no such pattern. That clears that up, thanks a lot. Mr, bar join me now is congresswoman Madeleine Dean of Pennsylvania and she is a democratic member of the judiciary and financial services committees former US attorney Joyce Vance. Paul Butler MSNBC legal analyst and former federal prosecutor and former us. Attorney Barbara mcquade. Thank you all for being here and I'm going to go to you. First Congresswoman. What do you make of William bars very succinct defense of his behavior. Just doesn't hold any water. We've seen from the moment. He auditioned for the position of Attorney General that he was auditioning for one for the president, and sadly in every action he has taken. He has used his office in the mighty power of the Attorney General. To be political arm a fixer if you will for the President I had the privilege of being in both the hearings with Mr Dolinsky. Mr Airs Mr Elias With Judiciary, but then also interestingly. Secretary SEC chairman, Clayton in front of financial services. What you see is attorney, General Bar, not acting independently, not acting as an attorney. He misrepresents before the American people chronically on behalf of the president and then tries to. Instill fear in others who won't do so. I mean I guess the question then is what can the public do about it? Here's just a list of what are has done that. We know of misleading the preview of the Muller report. Remember he put up that fake version of it that made it sound like it exonerated trump lower sentencing recommendations for stone move to drop the prosecution prescriptive of Michael, Flynn said of the Obama Administration Spider, the trump campaign, which is they lie and tried to remove a prosecutor. Berman and I wonder congresswoman feel that it is at this point still possible to impeach him because that is a sanction that is available to Congress underlaw. Impeach Bar. In my mind. I understand that. In Sight Attorney General Bar has done over and over impeachable acts in terms of process, and whether we will go there. I don't know. But he is scheduled to come before US July the twenty eighth recognize. This is the first attorney general not to come before Congress chronically not to come before Congress I. Want to add to that Qu- terrible list that you just showed which debuted with his four page misrepresentation of the Muller report which he allowed to stand out there for one month. Saying no collusion Noah obstruction. None of that was true that Mister Misrepresentation teed us off to the misrepresentation. He would go through. Powerfully now and dangerously now is what he is doing to undermine our upcoming election with voter suppression. With, teargassing peaceful protesters. Think of what he's doing in terms of saying the undermining the confidence of our actions for example with mail in ballots. which by the way the president took advantage of in the primary election. He's signaling special treatment. When you say, we'll make sure we get charges dismissed. Michael Flynn when the very thing that was being investigated, and he pled guilty to had to do with the interference in our elections in two thousand sixteen. He is a master of disinformation and I want to say as an attorney I practiced as an attorney. I'm recovery attorney now. The thing you are taught is that you are a servant of the court. You're not disturbance of the president and misrepresentation before the court, which in this case is the court of public opinion is something you must immediately correct. In in word afterward after deed, this attorney general misrepresents facts and the law before the American people on behalf of a president. He's a simple fixer. He has no credibility. Needs! To. Yeah I think a quite a bit of agreement on that to the point that you just made congresswoman four ways. William Bar The Washington Post. Rights is already subverting the twenty twenty elections safeguarding the top priority. For Normal Attorney General. It's the opposite down. He's already looking for ways to undermine the election in order to keep the man he, he clearly considered to be king in place..
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on AM Joy
"Good morning and welcome to a. m. joy by now you have become accustomed to hearing that so much of what you see happening. During the trump presidential air is not normal and since we are in an election year you should really be thinking hard about what kind of administration might replace Donald Trump and his team. Should we be lucky enough to have a free and fair election because it really matters who the president is during good times but when things are not so good when there's a crisis it frankly matters more because as a citizen you want to be able to trust government leaders and trust what they're telling you and we currently are in the midst of a global health crisis bordering on a pandemic which shows no signs of slowing down? And it's not at all clear that this administration knows what to do about it or worse. There are signs that they are not telling us how bad things really are because they're prioritizing. Donald Trump's politics over public safety and transparency. So here's what we know so far. There have been more than one hundred thousand cases of the novel Corona Virus or Kobe. Nineteen and it's turned fatal for more than thirty. Four hundred people around the world according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and engineering here in the US at least three hundred thirty five confirmed cases and seventeen people have died fourteen in Washington state one in California and two in Florida according to NBC News Numbers. There are signs that the Chinese government wasn't transparent about the spread of the virus there but here in the US we're led by Donald Trump. Who as of January had told a staggering sixteen thousand lies in his first three years in office for the Washington Post so not exactly super credible to begin with and now the corona virus with the corona virus trump started by implying that the entire thing was a democratic hoax. The Democrats are politicizing. The Kuroda vires and this is the new hoax next. He downplayed the seriousness of the virus. Saying that he doesn't need to rely medical experts of scientific research to know the percentage of people who will die from contracting Kobe. Nineteen No. He says he's relying on something. A bit more personal instead. Three point four percent is really a false number now. This is just my hunch and but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this because a lot of people will have this and it's very mild. They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call her doctor. You never hear about those people. Personally I would say the number is way under one percent. Just a hunch and trump repeatedly shared his hutches and false information about when a corona virus vaccine could be available and had to be gently corrected by his own experts. That the timeline is a year and a half not three months and here. He is at the Centers for Disease Control on Friday with his campaign hat on where he compared the corona virus test kids to his phone call with Ukrainian president. Mr Dolinsky you know. The one that led to his being impeached detestable. Perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription this was not as perfect as that but pretty good.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on Directors Cut Radio Program
"You're listening to director's cut radio. You know every week bringing the latest in Hollywood. My Name is Dan at the studio. We have Chris Maloney and Oliver J wriggle low radio land. The musical listening to is a bit for Red Light Cameras. Song is called whiskey. They're pretty good band. Based OUT OF ALBUQUERQUE. They travel all across southwest their performance. Meow Wolf of this weekend. Which is Kinda cool place in Santa Fe New Mexico and I know they're building a big meow. Wolf up in Las Vegas and Steph was reading about a Meow Wolf Hotel that they've been putting together where every single one of the rooms is a little different has its own style theme and artists that kind of create each room so it's going to be a gigantic meow wolf experience. There's a there's a hotel in Denver. I'm totally remember. The grow guest in ghostbusters. Yeah that has themes for every room and it was really awesome Stephanie wants a ghostbusters room where they had panels on the floor that were slime and you stepped on them and they like oozed all over the place. It was really cool. Doesn't sound cool. It's not there. Were under the tile so that you stepped on him in the WHO's would go all over the like under the tiles. I remain unconvinced. He's not a fan of the US. Why don't you lose no man because it's like Snot or something else? It's got secrets and interested. You don't you don't get oozed. You just step on it. Uses just uses gross. Yeah it's get the Non News Room it's like you're stepping on plastic and below. The plastic is Goo- that slug just. I don't see the tactile appeal like it's green. It's like you're in a ghostbusters room. There slammers on the wall. There's a big wall. Paper of the of the ghostbusters alley isn't it? I know he's disappointed. Yeah okay well and he wants to stay in the Ford V. Ferrari we get to sleep in a race car bed and it sounds like now. You're talking and heavy grease heavy grease and oil. That'd be that'd be awful will box instead of dresser. It's actually not a bad idea. There you go. I bet you that room probably exists in one of these fancy little like theme hotels or what's going on in the world of news interview. Well News for all of you. Like eight hundred kids back in the day. Rick Marinas is coming back coming out of retirement as we've been waiting for this for a very long time. He's officially signed on for the. Honey I shrunk the kid reboot series called shrunk shrunk but Mr Dolinsky is back as Mister Linski s or is it going to be like. Hey we're bringing back some old guys and rebooting it and starting from scratch. I think the story line is that it's like the kid all grown up and it's Josh Gad he's old Manson Linski so yeah he's like the grandfather's Linski maybe and the kids now working on his own shrinking experiments. What I find interesting about this whole thing is that the powers that be do not have the ability to recognize when a concept is long in the tooth. Yeah yeah the original concept is was there it was solid and it was closed. You know after their however many sequels does even need the sequels. There was no sequels needed for that and then they did a TV show. I believe is yeah. Yeah I mean even that was like was region but the TV show was like different experiments. Gone Awry Right. It wasn't all shrinking. It was like a mad scientist. That's out of control. It turned into cloudy with a chance of meatballs. Little bit so the fact that they're rebooting it is yet again another piece of evidence that old man Ali. We have your share. It's completely cynical. Pure pure cynic- A day. I'm just waiting real. And he's letting me real it out. Come on I'm leading. I'm waiting. Okay shrunk honey I shrunk the. We're not there right now. Harry. We're not there. I'm not warmed up for you. Dan just wants to let me have enough rope to hang on. I'm just sitting watching. It's this is the train wreck all E-TRADE. There's more news. There's going to reboot news. So we'll get him there all right the other big thing. That's getting rebooted from the late eighties. Early Nineties Kevin Smith is doing a masters of the universe. Nice cartoon On a believe Netflix. Oh just a cartoon. Yes Okay Smith. Oh isn't Mark Hamill somehow connected to that they have released. The voice cast list and it is led off by none other than mark. Hamill playing skeletons. You're also include the likes of Deedrick. Baiter Kevin Conroy. Lena Headley Sarah Michelle Gellar. Stephen Root Henry Rollins as trike lops Alan Oppenheimer the original skeleton for Silverstone. Justin Long Phil Lamar. And it is Kevin Smith so Jason Mewes and Harley. Quinn Smith will both be there as nice. So I'm on board main. This is very very excit- masters of the universe needs something good It hasn't been good since the original cartoon in every time. They've tried something. It just doesn't work. I didn't like the longer movie no well. Franklin didn't understand it and frankly I mean it's not as had its own bore to it. You know the whole cartoon got started off as a way to sell. The toys was cartoon her. Who is in a Jennifer? Aniston or Courtney Cox. I think it was cold as I recall. I remember a friend was in there and speaking of friends. Aren't they rebooting it or doing a reunion it's going to HBO? Max Yeah they're streaming. David Schwimmer cancelled. That I think I thought he killed it. I know there was. There was something with him in like living single. Because there's like beef because they say friends just ripped off. Living single and David Schwimmer was like I liked living single. There's no beef but I think I don't know I don't know if I'm I don't have my finger on the friends pulse. I thought it was just a soap opera with the laugh. Track really yeah terrorist. Your Welker didn't get didn't get the nod. Yeah called for a little voice acting. I really like how when you watch friends how it's Kinda cringe nowadays with some of the jokes. It's not is it a little bit. Looks like somebody I don't know how it feels very dated. And how they have a lot of gay jokes. And a Lotta Expensive Gunther. Yeah and not even that like they find them. There's just a and how sexist Ross's a little bit with his really. Yeah just watch it again. It's just look at it through a lens from Modern Day. And how do we have to look at it through like the whole like neo politically correct? Like I'm Uber. Woke kind of lends in order to see Russel justice wrong with a have to look at everything wrong but it just feels a little cringe dated. The show is more than twenty years old. So yes I mean you are going to get some a little bit of cultural. I don't WanNa call a backlash as much as you know like you're going to feel a little out of Plainfield isn't even as bad like Seinfeld's not as bad as how friends is nothing you know not that there's anything wrong with that even even though it is like twenty years twenty years ago Dave. What both went off the air when when friends go off the air so friends went off air in. What was it two thousand and one? I don't know it had to be more right. Because the show started in. Like one thousand nine hundred four and they closed it after ten so had two thousand four house on that long. Correct me if if that's what I'm talking about we're looking friends. Went off the air May Six two thousand four nailed it talking secretly friends over here. That's the reason why he's defending jokes. I'm not I mean it's just it's it's strange because we're we're so sensitive about things that are that are way passe at this point as we should be for a lot of this stuff like a trans character and just making fun of them for the sake of vacant fun of him on a show is not good. I Dunno or like making it so they know he might be trans or they might be trans and everyone's Kinda panicking or something like that. These are happen. I'm trying to remember. There was an episode that he'll I can tell you that I mean I I did date for quite some time. A friend Superfan and that is just not so of course. Needless to say like I watched every single episode of our time right. And it's just not ringing a bell. Dude okay. Look I'm trying to find the TRANSPHOBIC episodes. And what's more is I. I would even venture for them to say it was thanks to show to shows like friends friends creator in grace and all of this that actually sort of move the cultural needle to be more accepting things like trans and you know and homosexuality and all this other stuff kathleen. Turner played for Trans Character on friends but wouldn't do it now. That's true I'm on parents. Channels Dad add slash ball save. There's the joke. See that's terrible. I don't see. Why is that terrible? Dan Awkward? That's why it's funny. That's what comedy is is pointing out foibles and idiosyncrasies and things like that that you know that we all get that we all deal with on a day-to-day basis. It just seems very dated. I wouldn't because if someone's gender does is no longer avant garde for but still I what else there's other there's other little just watch the show. I don't know you're insinuating that it's offensive and I just I don't know if it is. It's not even say that it's offensive. I've seen that. It's really dated and a lot of the jokes. It's just like a no it's dated. I agree with that were dated. I just don't WanNa go back and watch friends there it is. That's the core of its. Thank you Chris for bringing us back on Oprah all these defending all of the Oh before we found the homophobic transphobic person on our team every now now we have to defend Ali. We're getting the letters. Thank you. Steph IS BACK. Hello lovely welcome. Hi Your microphone over there we grow. The phone.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Al Franken Podcast
"It was this was supposed to be a debate and I also have a beef for the Democrats. I have a beef with Adam Schiff which is that the Republicans would say stuff that would make your your brain gene explode because it let me see. What Peter do we have Doug Collins One of the many White guys from the south making an argument that is so On disingenuous and stupid. That Eh I'll play it and then you'll then I'll scream. When they can't make their argument that the president pressure Mr Dolinsky they then attacked Mr Solanki and then say that? He was pressured when ministers Liscio numerous occasions. They said I have not been pressured. I'm not being used. I have no the call was fine. I'm not paying pressured to do anything. Then here's what the majority is saying. The majority saying Mr Dolinsky is a liar and we in this body of the Democrats are tearing down a a world leader in the eyes of those that don't like him in his own country and Russia who is attacking him. Okay here's the thing Zilenski. He is the president of Ukraine. They are relying on the United States to give them aid in fighting the Russians who are in an active war with them He. I'm sorry is just told me crazy. Uh He can't say Donald Trump president trump pressured me because he's relying I ain't going on Donald Trump for the survival of his country and a K. Hey is it. Doug Collins doesn't know that I I don't know I watched him. He's smart enough. He is smart enough. I'm going to play another guy. 'cause they repeat the shit over and over again this is Kelly Armstrong of North Dakota represents the whole state. 'cause there's no one almost no one there so we have the alleged alleged victim of quid pro quo bribery extortion. Whatever we're dealing with now today repeatedly and adamantly eminently shouting from the rooftops that he never felt pressure that he was not the victim of anything so in order for this whole thing to stick we have to believe believed presidents? Alinsky is a pathological liar. Okay I think that stupidity more than disingenuousness. I can't know for sure I cannot know for sure stupid lying Bad Faith wh Whoa what is it what is it this was the whole damn the whole damn hours and hours of this shit whenever it would get to them. They would make an argument that that on a surf at that you knew was a false argument. You know that's Alinsky relies and the fact what I mad at shift for and the Democratic site it is they should have had maybe just a point person who would get fifteen seconds and going like okay you know why Zelinski. He didn't acknowledge that he was pressure. Is because they're relying on the United States for rain and and they can't do that. You know that and you know that and why do you keep repeating it. And you're incredibly dishonest or stupid thank you and then then when they make some other stupid argument. Let's let's make another stupid argument. Let's hear the Muller reports Duff for two years. We've been told that Dan candid. Donald trump colluded with Russians. Sion's to interfere with our elections two years. Millions of dollars spent on the modern investigation. No collusion you'd think. After being that wrong Democrats outs would finally decided to work on the problems at the American people. Send us here to do. You'd be wrong again. That was fill a row of Tennessee and He probably doesn't know this he probably just heard bill bar. Say This in the press conference before the Miller report came out the they are very clear on page. Two of the report that they weren't criminally looking for collusion Uson. They had the US conspiracy. Okay and collusion is not a legal term. You can't be convicted of collusion. You can be convicted of conspiracy and it makes a difference whether you're illegal term or not for example. You're never gonNA hear the foreman of jury say your honor We find the defendant not guilty of being in cahoots on page two. It says this is page to see only had to read two pages saucer. The top of page two in evaluating whether evidence evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime we applied the framework of conspiracy law not the concept and sapped of collusion in doing so. The office recognized that the word collude was used in communications nations with the acting. Attorney General confirming certain aspects of the investigation scope and the term has frequently been invoked in public public reporting about the investigations but collusion is not a specific offence or theory of liability found in the United States code. Pasto page to fill rocket understand PHIL ROE getting tired. You're reading the report at may be page three A. Hugh he's not a big reader. Evidently but my God so there was collusion. There was a Ladda collusion. Roger Stone Stone just got convicted on every count for essentially colluding through with Wiki wikileaks. which got its stuff from the Russians and Manafort gave you've Kalinic who was considered a part of the Russian spy network intelligence network? He gave Kalinic the internal polling of the trump campaign for the states Pennsylvania Wisconsin Michigan Chicken. That's colluding that's colluding as colluding at colluding you know is Later I'm going to read Trump's some of trump's fucking letter insane letter to Nancy Pelosi and he basically says he eats he's going into the Russian thing's a hoax the witch on hulks. And no no there were thirteen indictments of Russians Russians.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Things work all kinds of different ways these days when you met with presence Alinsky After the July twenty fifth phone call you met him on July Twenty six did the investigations or Joe Biden. Come up in that meeting. I don't recall Joe Biden coming up. was there any frustration expressed to you by the phone call. That happened the day before. No as I testified. Everyone said it was a good call is in your opinion. Your interactions with presents alinsky straight shooter is the Aligarh or is he alive. I he impressed me greatly and that's why I wanted to get he and president trump together as soon as possible muscle and so when he makes express statements. You tend to believe them with my limited interaction with him. He seems very honorable. Castro astro others close to President. Trump have made it clear that investigations were in fact part of the conditions for us. Assistance to Ukraine including Rudy. Giuliani honey. And Mick Mulvaney. The Acting Chief of staff so mess Onlin at a press conference on October Seventeenth Acting White House chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney discussed disgust his belief that it's entirely appropriate to politicize. US foreign policy ambassador. How often did you speak or meet with Mister Mulvaney again? Based on my lack of records I'm going by a bad memory is based on your memory. I I only think I had and one formal meeting with Mister Mulvaney and had nothing to do with Ukraine. It had to do with completely unrelated matter. So did you have a chance to talk with Miss Mulvaney about your efforts in the Ukraine great I think most of our communication were through the stream of emails which others were on generally and I may have seen him at the White House casually and said hello and kept in touch. But we didn't have bachelor worth. Well let me ask you this. Was it your sense of mister. Mulvaney had a direct line into president trump. He must have as acting chief of staff. Is that right of course radcliffe any anticipation of you've Mr. Holmes is testimony tomorrow about this July twenty six phone call that that he Overheard at a cafe in Kiev that you had with President trump. He overheard that. Even the call was not on speakerphone. Correct I don't believe if so was an open air cafe. It was outdoors track. Think Mr Chairman and ambassador. Thank you for your Stamina Sir. Few quick fairly easy questions. You would agree with you. Not Sir that for interference in our elections is or can be a threat toward democracy under certain conditions. Yes you there. Conditions under which their interference is not a threat. I'm sorry did you say foreign interference. Yes yes always sorry. Do you also agree that. Identifying and preventing interference should be a priority of the federal government. It should be one of its priorities. And when you were assisting president trump in his effort obtain those investigations. Did you all realized that those investigations could in fact impact the two thousand twenty election. Now do you believe Sir that it is appropriate ever appropriate to invite press bribe or or weirs foreign interference in our elections. Now thank you. I want to refer to something that you said in your opening statement as I previously testified. Had I known of all of Mr Giuliani's dealings or if it's associations with individuals now under criminal indictment and I would not have acquiesced to his participation. It's hard to read that without believing that you thought that what he was doing was either wrong or that he was not reputable fare. Well with twenty twenty hindsight. That's fast. You've testified here today that you also came to believe that the request request for investigations into Berea. SMA was in fact a request to investigate the Biden's both former vice president hunter. And indeed the transcript of the don't lie twenty-fifth call makes specific reference to that including Hunter Biden and today the even the ranking member said. We could clear all this up if we could have hundred Biden and I have a simple question. What Ukrainian law did Hunter Biden violate? I'm not aware. What evidence evidence is there that he may have violated any Ukrainian law? I'm not aware because there is none sir. Do you feel is a person who went into public service to serve. Who had a team of people that shared your desire air to help Ukraine? You feel in any way betrayed by the double dealing of the President says the real question. I don't WANNA characterize Eric to rise you don't have to characterize him. I'm just you know we all if you get a chance to do something useful we like to do it. And there's no better joy than when you're doing with other people in Mr Welsh. Let me answer your question. This way. I would have preferred that and I'm sure everyone would have preferred that. The president simply met with Mr Dolinsky right right away our assessment misters Alinsky was that he and the president would get on famously. He was smart. He was funny he was charming. He was the kind kind of person the president would like and once the two of them got together we thought the chemistry would take over and good things would happen between the US and Ukraine relationship. That's why bye were pushing for a quick unconditional meeting. So it's unfortunate that he was willing to meet without the commitment on the investigation. Mr Maloney restate who would benefit from an investigation of the president's political opponents. Well presumably that the person person who asked for the investigation. WHO's that if the president asked for the investigation it would be well? It's not a hypothetical. Is it sir. We just went around the track. Didn't we president and ask you about investigations. He was talking about the buds when he when he asked about the Biden investigation. Who is he seeking to benefit? He did not ask me about the Biden investigation. He asked about investigations times. Mr Sarah. We just went through this when he asked her about investigations which we all agree. Now means means the Biden's we just did this about thirty seconds ago we. It's pretty simple question isn't it. I guess I guess I'm having trouble why you can't just say when he asked about investigations I assumed he meant I know what she was symphony. But who benefit from an investigation of the bites. They're two different questions sir. I'm just asking you one. Who would benefit from an investigation of the Biden's I assume president trump would air? We have it..
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"His cable came in but at my understanding is that made it to its recipient intended recipients secretary pompeo. We know Secretary Pompeo was on the call a month early on July twenty fifth. It's not like he's in the dark about at any of this. I honestly can't say for sure what happened with the cable wants. The message was brought in at the highest level. One of the questions gentlemen on September I would call a meeting between the vice president and the president of Ukraine Mr Dolinsky in which right off the president of Ukraine Raises Security Assistance and the vice president. According to your telling says all talk to the president tonight about that. I'll make a call. Do you know whether the vice president hasn't made that call. I don't know Sir. Do you know what if anything the vice president had to do with any of this. Can you look. What more can you tell? It's about the vice president's role in this. Do you know if he ever raised this issue with anyone. The administration whether we ever push for the release that security systems cancer. I believe to best of my understanding. The vice president was an advocate for the release of the assistance. Both of you have explained that you grew seriously concerned when you realized the interests of this irregular channel diverged from official L.. US policy and interests was mercer. You Giuliani promoting. US national entrance our policy in Ukraine ambassador. I don't think so. Uh Mr Ken no he was. Not what interests do you believe. He was Promoting Mr Ken. I believe he was looking to dig up political dirt or against St potential rival in the next election. Cycle Ambassador Taylor what interests that you believe. He was promoting I. I agree with Mr Clinton. The State Department's role is to promote. US policy's overseas not to help the current president when relection is that correct correct Mr Ken. All federal government employees are subject to the Hatch Act in our actions are supposed to be promoting policy and not involved in partisan politics ambassador. Taylor Taylor Audrey Ambassador Taylor you have describing your previous testimony wetness. Shortly after you arrived in Ukraine it which embassador Sunlen as State Department officials is not to listen to a July twenty eight call. He had planned to whole with president landscape. Did you find that unusual I did what was the impact back of embassador sandline making that requests. You founded unusual. What do you believe in the impact was? I'm I'm not sure there was an immediate impact. With air record. A recording or transcript was not that was the impact that was not recorded. Do you think that's why the request was made so there would would not be normal. State Department of employees from the Operations Center. Would have been there transcribing and taking notes that.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Knew that Tebessa Volcker was prepping Ukrainians for the phone call earlier on that is in at a meeting in Toronto. On July second Mr Volk Besser Volcker added conversation with Prisons Zain's Linski and had indicated in a phone call that he at that time was going to talk Mr Dolinsky presence Alinsky Alinsky through the steps that need to be taken in order to get to the phone call understood and testified earlier that the security assistance had already been frozen to your knowledge at least by July eighteen. Is that right. That's correct so that was just a week earlier than this. That's correct so just so we're clear ambassador Taylor before this July twenty fifth call. President trump had frozen the security assistance that Ukraine needed and the White House meeting was conditioned on Ukraine initiating this investigation and that had been relayed to the Ukrainians. Is that an accurate state to play at this time. That's an accurate data. Play I at that. Point had no indication that any discussion of the security the assistance being subject to condition conditioned on investigations had taken place. But you understood that the White House meeting. Let's correct all right. Let's move ahead to this July twenty fifth call and between the president's now am I correct that neither of you were on this call. Is that right. Mr Can't that's correct and you were neither as well so you both read it. After it was released publicly at the end of September. Yes yes I want to spend just a little time reading the transcript as we've been encouraged to do and I want to particularly no four excerpts some of the transcripts one that relates to the security assistance. We've been talking about another. That discusses a favor that president trump asked of presidents Alinsky a third where president trump asks the Ukrainian president to investigate his political opponent former vice president Biden and then a final one on where the Ukrainian president directly links the desired White House visit to the political investigations. That president trump wanted. So let's look at the first first excerpts which is near the beginning of the call when President Leninsky discusses the military aid the US provides to Ukraine. He says I I would also like to thank you for your great support. In the area of defense we are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. Specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelin Boland's from the United States for defense purposes. Now at the time of this phone call ambassador Taylor and Mr Kennedy. You both knew that the aid had been unfrozen. Is that right correct and Ambassador Taylor you testified that President Trump obviously also knew that the aid did had been frozen as well since he was responsible for doing that. Is that correct. That's what I had been told. That's what we heard on that conference call. Yes but took neither of your knowledge Ukrainians. Were not aware of that at that point. Not To my knowledge not to my knowledge but right after President Zilenski thanks president trump from for his great support in the area of defense president trump. Then says and we'll go to the next excerpt I want you do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine and they say crowd strike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server they say Ukraine has it and then at the end of the paragraph says. Whatever you can do? It's very important that you do it. If that's possible now Mr Ken. You've testified a little bit about how important this White House meeting was the president's Alinsky. How would you expect a new Ukrainian president to interpret a request for a favour from the president of the United States? I cannot interpret the mind of presidents alinsky other than to say that it was very clear that what they were hoping to get out of. This meeting was date and a confirmation that he could come to Washington. Obviously you can't put yourself in the mind but if the Ukrainian president then for a country that's so dependent on the United States for for all things including military assistance is requested to do a favor. How how do you think the Ukrainians would interpret that if you go further into the call record as part of this and we don't have it on screen? But to the best of my rolex elect recollection reading it. After it was released in September twenty fifth presidents. Alinsky went into having whatever your problems were. That was the old team. I've got a new team. And we will do whatever's appropriate and be transparent and honest about it. I don't remember the exact words but he he was trying to be in his own. Words Response Be Responsive to conduct the business of Ukrainian government in a transparent apparently.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"The biggest piece of testimony has come out over time. Timeframe was that associate of bill. Taylor's staff member heard president trump on the phone own with embassador Sunland when you understood saying that trump spa I on that sunland responded and following. It calls a member of my staff. This is what he said asked ambassador. Sunlit what president trump out about Ukraine ambassador sunlen responded the president trump cares more about the investigations. The Biden which Giuliani was pressing for now it was also announced today after that statement. Include that phone call. We're going to be two new closed-door depositions David Holmes and Mark Sandy. These are people who could very well have been one of these staff members to bill Taylor with the number of officials where we're going to continue to follow this folks and at one point deal. What did you understand we will put together some of the key moments this but Goldman is is questioning Taylor and this is all relevant stuff? Had in mind and was was that in reference to. We'll just let it go in that meeting related to the White House meeting that presidents alinsky wanted in connection to the investigations investigations. The context of that comment was the discussion. That Mr Donnie look who was Mr Bolton's counterpart Ukrainian counterpart the National Security Adviser had had with Mr Bolton and that conversation was very substantive up until the point right where the White House meeting was raised and Mr Besser sunland intervened gened to talk about the investigations. It was at that point. That Ambassador Bolton sees the meeting close the meeting adding finish the meeting and told his staff to report this meeting to the lawyers and he also later then indicated to feel on a hill who was also participant on. NFC staff that he he investor Bolton didn't want to be associated with this drug deal so it was in. The implication was it was the the the the domestic politics that was being cooked up and did ambassador. Sunland say this in front of the Ukrainian officials to your understanding Besser Sunland in the meeting where Besser bolt was having a conversation with his counterpart. Raise the issue of investigations being important to come before the White House meeting that had just been raised. Ukrainian officials worth and Ukraine officials. Were in that meeting or now around this same time. In mid-july did you have any discussions with Ukrainian officials about these investigations. I don't recall. Well let me show you a text message that you wrote on July twenty first where you wrote it again to ambassador Sunland and Volker and if you could you just read what you what you wrote here on July Twenty First Lorden one thing curtain. I talked about yesterday was Russia. Donnie looks point that President Residents Alinsky is sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic reelection politics and saw sit down. Look I think you just said is ambassador Bolton's counterpart right is the national Advisor to the was. He's no longer but was at the time. What did you understand it to mean when when that's Alinsky had concerns about being an instrument in Washington domestic reelection politics Mr Diner Luke understood That these investigations were pursuant to Mr Giuliani's request and develop information to find information about Brisebois and the Biden's this was very well known in public Giuliani had made this point clear in several instances in the beginning in the in the springtime and Mr Donald was aware that was a problem. And would you agree that because presidents Alinsky is worried about this. They understood at least that there was some pressure for them to to pursue these investigations. Is that fair. Mr Dyer look indicated that prisons Linski certainly understood it that he did not want to get involved in these type of activities. Now I'm going to move ahead to July twenty fifth which was when president trump open presents. Alinsky had the phone call but before we get to the phone call. I want to show both of you a text message. Neither of which neither of you is on this text message. It is between Ambassador Volker and Andre earmark a top aide to presidents alinsky. I will read it because neither of you is on it. Ambassador Volker says good would launch. Thanks heard from White House. Assuming president. Zee convinces trump. He will investigate slash. Get to the bottom of what happened. In Two thousand in sixteen we will nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck. See You tomorrow Kirk. And this was a half hour less than a half hour before the call actually occur. Zeke could be anybody. Taylor was ambassador Volker with you in Ukraine at this time he was. Did you know that he was prepping presidents Alinsky for this phone call with President trump in this way not in this way. Mr Galvin but I knew that the best Volker was was prepping Ukrainians for the phone call earlier on that is in at a meeting in Toronto on July. Second Mr Volk Volker Atta conversation with presence Linski and had indicated in a phone. Call that he at that time was going to talk Mr Dolinsky presence Linski through the steps steps that need to be taken in order to get to the phone call understood and you testified earlier that the security assistance had already been frozen to your knowledge at least by July eighteen. Is that right. That's correct so that was just a week earlier than this. That's correct so just so we're clear ambassador Taylor before this July I twenty fifth call. President trump had frozen the security assistance. That Ukraine needed and that the White House meeting was conditioned on Ukraine initiating this investigation in that had been relayed to the Ukrainians. Is that an accurate state of play at this time. That's an accurate state of play. I A- At that point had no indication that any discussion of the security assistance being subject to conditioned condition condition. Dawn investigations had taken place right. But you understood that the White House meeting. Let's correct all right. Let's move ahead to this July. Twenty fifth call. Aw and between the president's now am I correct that neither of you were on this call. Is that right Mr Ken. That's correct and you were neither Eric as well so you both read it after it was released publicly at the end of September. Yes yes I want to spend just a little time reading the transcript unscripted as we've been encouraged to do and I want to particularly note. Four excerpts of the transcript one that relates to the security assistance. We've been talking about another. That discusses a favor that president trump asked of presidents Alinsky a third where president trump asks the Ukrainian president to investigate his political opponent former vice president biden and then a final one where the Ukrainian president directly links the desired White House visit to the political investigations. That president trump wanted so. Let's go look at the first excerpt which is near the beginning of the call when presidents alinsky discusses the military aid that the US provides to Ukraine. He says I would also like to thank you for your great support. In the area of defense we are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically. We are almost ready to buy more javelin from the United States for defense purposes. Now at the time of this phone call ambassador Taylor and Mr Can. You both knew that the aid had been frozen that right. That's correct trek and ambassador Taylor. You testified that President Trump obviously also knew that the aid had been frozen as well since he was responsible possible for doing that. Is that correct. That's what I had been told. That's what we heard on that conference call. Yes but neither of your knowledge Ukrainians were not aware of at that point not to my knowledge not to my knowledge but right after President Zilenski thanks president trump for his great support in the area area of defense president trump and says and we'll go to the next excerpt. I want you to do us a favor. Though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine. They say crowd strike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server they say Ukraine has it and then at the end of the paragraph. He says whatever you can do. It's very important that you do it if that's possible now Mr Kent. You've testified a little bit about how important this White House meeting was to presidents. Alinsky how would you expect back to new Ukrainian president to interpret a request for a favour from the president of the United States. I cannot a Interpret the mind of Presidents Alinsky Other than to say that it was very clear that what they were hoping to get out of. This meeting was a date and a confirmation that he could come to Washington. Obviously you can't put yourself in the mind but if the Ukrainian president for country that's so dependent on the United States it's for for all things including military assistance is requested to do a favor. How do you think Ukrainians would interpret that? Well if you go further into the call record as part of this and we don't have it on screen. But to the best of my recollection reading it after it was released in September twenty fifth breath presidents Alinsky went into Having whatever your problems were that was the old team. I've got a new team and we will do do whatever is appropriate and be transparent and honest about it i. I don't remember the exact words but he was trying to be In his own words in response be responsive to conduct business of Ukrainian government in a transparent and honest manner now when he talks about this crowd strike in server. What do you understand this to be reference to to be on site not heard of crowd strike until I read this transcript kept on September twenty fifth? He never watches Fox. That's why I understand. It has to do with liberal media story that There's a server with Sir missing emails. I also understand that one of the owners of or of crowd strike is a Russian American. I'm not aware of any Ukrainian connection to the company now. Are you aware that this is all part of a larger allegation. That Ukraine interfered in the two thousand sixteen an election. Yes that is my understanding and to your knowledge. Is there any factual basis to support the allegation. That Ukraine interfered interfered in the two thousand. Sixteen election to my knowledge. There's no factual basis. No okay twenty. Sixteen election I think it's amply clear that Russian listen Interference was at the heart of the Interference in the two thousand sixteen election cycle. Let's move to the third excerpt that I mentioned related to Vice President Biden and it says the other thing. There's a lot of talk about Biden's son. This is president trump speaking that Biden. Stop the prosecution and a lot of people wanna find out about that so whatever you can do. With the attorney general would be great binding went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it sounds horrible now at the time of this call. Vice President Biden was the front runner for the Democratic nomination. In Two thousand twenty election. and Mister are you familiar as you indicated in your opening statement statement about these allegations related to Vice President Biden and to your knowledge is there any factual basis to support those allegations. None whatsoever however when Vice President Biden acted in Ukraine. Did he act in accordance with official policy he did.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"And because House Democrats charges against President trump have been publicly repeatedly consistently insistently been denied presence. Linski you heard the defense now from Chairman Schiff. He's lying because he has to he. You have to lie because the threats demands the blackmail the extortion that House Democrats are alleging. If if he it didn't do that he couldn't possibly risk military aid. He he would have to do anything he had to. Secure it. The problem with that the hole in that argument is you have to ask yourself. What did President Zelinski actually do to get the aid? The answer is is nothing. He did nothing. He didn't open any investigations. He didn't call Attorney General Bill Bar. He didn't do any of the things that House Democrats say that he was being forced and coerced and threatened to do. He didn't do anything because he didn't have to. You'll back five minutes. Thank you MR chairman. Thank you you both for your true heroic efforts both tonight today and also throughout your careers. I'd like to start with you. Mr Can't can't in your testimony you said that you had in mid August. It became clear to me. That Giuliani's Lyonnais efforts to gin up. Politically motivated investigations were now infecting. US engagement with Ukraine. Leveraging Presidents Alinsky desire fire for a White House meeting Mr Ken. Did you actually write a memo documenting your concerns that there was an effort underway to pressure the Ukraine to open an investigation to benefit president trump. Yes ma'am I wrote a memo to the file on August sixteenth. But we don't have access to that memo. Oh do I submitted it to the State Department subject to the September twenty seven. We have not received one can noted that piece of paper from the state. contemporaneous Georgia this was going on to the State Department. State Department will not release the documents to the committees of Ukraine indicate that the seven year time the benefit that it has to the United States national security and our goal to continue to support sovereignty of nations meanwhile Russia is violently attacked tacking people in Ukraine in the Boston area. So withholding military aid does that weaken Ukraine. Well I think it sends the the wrong signal and it did for a short period of time again the Assistance from the nineteen was released and is in the process of heading towards towards Ukraine. Does it embolden Russia when there was no aid being sent to Ukraine. I think the signal that there's controversy controversy and question about the US support of Ukraine sends the signal to Vladimir Putin that he can leverage that as he seeks to negotiate with not only Ukraine but other countries. Please thank you Sir Taylor. I think you mentioned that. A White House meeting for Zielinski would boost his ability to negotiate for a peaceful settlement with Vladimir Putin and Russia in general is that true. Ms Feared Surly Truth that that. US support support for Mr Dolinsky presence. Linski in his negotiations with With Russians is very important and will will enable him to get a better her agreement with that support from the United States both from the military but also political since that we can provide but he has not yet have that White House meeting has he not. I think it's ironic. That Soviet born love Parnasse. Who has now been indicted had a meeting with the president in the White House after participating in a number of campaign events for the president and contributing three hundred? Twenty five thousand dollars to the president's pack so maybe it's actually the requirement that you give money to the president's pack in order to get get that meeting at the White House Ambassador Taylor. Is it true that the prosecutor general now has opened an investigation in Ukraine misfired. The new prosecutor-general That presents Alinsky has appointed. Food is indeed investigating crimes in general is that is that your question. Yes he is in Office is investigating grow active specified wet investigations. He's undertaken no. He has not yield the rest of my time to Chairmanship just a quick question. My colleagues a couple of colleagues colleagues referenced. The conversation the hot my conversation between President Obama and President Medvedev that was in twenty twelve. There's a suggestion that he he was saying. He was going to go easy on Russia over the invasion of Ukraine but officially took place two years after that conversation. Whatever reason to believe the President Obama's I was referring to going easy on Russia for invasion? That hasn't happened yet. Do I have no touch of what was then. It was more or less a rhetorical question. UH-HUH.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Nicole Sandler Show
"Itself southward through the outer regions of the manatee that people will do just because it does the Union asking for an extension at what he did was like a five year old dream is a cell line action assist I'm crazy it is right now and what they're going to be forced with is a situation where they're going to end up having to change the rules so that get out there a bedtime story or I guess a lunch missile verse for Yes because I'm going to read because I know I I know that most people didn't take the time to read Ambassador Taylor's opening statement from yesterday and it was like a punch it is that important so I'm going to read it that's what I'm that's forty minutes it is but that's why I gotta go all right thank you Dennis Campbell a good launch to you guys thank you and you to talk to you later bye-bye Dennis Campbell is of course over there in the okay he's our man across the pond who's filling us in on what's happening there all right so someone Terry Taylor just can't or John DOE the youtube chat room and Said who is the guest today. Well that was Dennis Campbell giving us the latest on what's happening with Brexit or not happening with Brexit as the the case me and for the rest of the show I don't have a guest I may open it up for phone calls later I did edit it a little bit you were saying fifteen pages ugh did you read the thing I don't care how long it is it's what it says and that's the problem that too many people ooh fifteen pages long I'm not GonNa read it so I- edited it a bit and cut out some of the extraneous stuff out some of the the the titles so I'm not gonna read ambassador every time I say one of the ambassadors names or certainly I'm not going to use the word accident in front of Donald Trump's name but the so you get the idea but but I decided to do this today instead of getting a guest to talk about it because I know in fact I would like to ask the people in both chat rooms how many of you of actually read it Nicholas Miller said he read it I promise you most of you didn't and you should because this statement by William Taylor yesterday is I believe the beginning of the end for Donald Trump and it's not only me got to tell you I'm on a list serve with some very plugged in political folks and after this came out yesterday a new mm email hit the list turned into a long thread of who will Mike Pence pick to be his VP. okay so things are not looking good for for for don the con- Today so let me share with you the opening statement of ambassador. William Tyler Taylor sorry as delivered before in a deposition Yesterday October twenty second in two thousand nine thousand nine hundred and he started with a bit of biographical autobiographical information he said I've dedicated my life to serving US interests at home and abroad both military and civilian roles my background and experience are nonpartisan and I've been honored to serve under every administration Republican and Democrat attic since one thousand nine hundred eighty five for fifty years he says I have served the country starting as a cadet at west point than an infantry officer for six years include with the one hundred first Airborne Division Vietnam than at the Department of Energy than as a member of a Senate staff than at NATO then with the State Department here and abroad awed Afghanistan Iraq Jerusalem Ukraine and more recently as executive vice president of the nonpartisan United States Institute of Peace pretty good credentials then he says while I have served in many places and in different capacities I've a particular interest in and respect for the importance of our country's relations ship with Ukraine and then he goes into a long explainer of why why our relationship with Ukraine is so important and that was part of the impetus for him taking this position that is you'll hear he didn't WanNa take and then he says let me now provide committees of chronology of the events that led to my concern all right and this includes when he was asked to go back he had been in private life he had retired and he was asked by Mike Pompeo to return to take over for Marie Ianovich who trump had dismissed as ambassador to Ukraine all right so let me let me let me continue reading because all this unfolds he writes on May twenty eighth of this year I met with Secretary Mike Pompeo who asked me to return to Kiev to lead our embassy in Ukraine it was and is a critical time in US Ukraine relations let Amir's Alinsky had just been elected president and Ukraine remained at war with Russia as the summer approached a new Ukrainian government would be seated. Parliamentary elections were imminent and the Ukrainian political trajectory would be set for the next several years I had served as ambassador to Ukraine from two thousand. Six to two thousand nine having been nominated by George W Bush and in the intervening ten years I've stayed engaged with Ukraine visiting frequently since two thousand thirteen as a board member a small Ukrainian non-governmental organizations supporting good governance and reform and so he goes on to talk more and more about Ukraine has i. If Ukraine succeeds in breaking free of Russian influence it is possible for Europe to be whole free democratic and at peace in contrast he writes if Russia dominates Ukraine Russia will begin will again become an empire oppressing its people and threatening its neighbors and the rest is the world second with the annexation of Crimea in two thousand fourteen and the continued aggression in Donbas Russia violated countless treaties ignored Commitments and dismissed all the principles that have kept the peace and contributed to prosperity in Europe since World War Two to restore Ukraine's independence Russia must leave Ukraine. This has been and should continue to be a bipartisan. US foreign policy goal all to say easy decision the former ambassador Masha Marie Uganda Vich had been treated poorly caught in a web political machinations both in Kiev in Washington I fear that those problems were still present when I talked to her about accepting the offer however she urged to go both for policy reasons and the morale of the embassy before answering the secretary I consulted both my wife and a respected former senior Republican official who's been a mentor to me I will tell you that my wife in no uncertain terms strongly opposed the idea the mentor counseled if your country asks you to do something you do it it can be effective I could be effective only if the US policy of strong support for Ukraine strong diplomatic support along with robust security economic and technical assistance were to continue and if I had the backing of the Secretary of State to implement that policy I word about what I had heard concerning the role of Rudolph Giuliani who had made several high profile statements about Ukraine and US policy toward the country so during a meeting with Jeff Secretary Pompeii on May twenty eighth I made clear to him and the others present that if the US policy toward Ukraine changed he would not want me posted there and could not stay. He assured me that the policy of strong support for Ukraine would continue and that he would support me and defending that policy with that understanding I agreed to go back to Kiev because I was appointed by the secretary but not confirmed by the Senate my official position this charge day affair at interim okay so here he is in acting ambassador basically all right so that's the first segment of the inch the opening statement as re written by and delivered by Bill Taylor in this deposition yesterday before or the house impeachment inquiry committees all right so he continues and he says a return to Kiev on June seventeenth I gotTa tell you so so bill Taylor has only been back in that job acting as ambassador to Ukraine since June seventeenth this all happened just in the recent in a in the last couple of months I mean most of the action took place within about a two week period all right so so he continues return to Kiev on June seventeenth carrying the original copy of a letter president trump signed the day after I met with the secretary in that letter trump congratulated presidents Alinsky on his election victory and invited him to a meeting in the Oval Office I also brought with me a framed copy of the Secretary's declaration that the United States would never recognize the illegal Russian annexation of Crimea those are two important points but once I arrived in Kiev he writes he writes I discovered a weird combination of encouraging confusing and ultimately alarming circumstances first the encouraging presidents Alinsky was taking over Ukraine in a hurry he had appointed reformist ministers and supported long-stalled anti-corruption legislation he took quick executive action including opening Ukraine's high anti-corruption court which was established under the previous presidential administration but never allowed to operate he called snap parliamentary elections his party was so new and had no representation in the rata and later won an overwhelming mandate controlling sixty percent of the seats with his new parliamentary majority presidents Alinsky changed the Ukrainian constitution to remove absolute immunity from rata deputies which had the source of raw corruption for two decades there was much excitement in Kiev that this time things could be different a new Ukraine might finally breaking from its corrupt post-soviet past and yet bill Taylor continues I found it confusing and unusual arrangement for making US policy towards Ukraine and I'm pausing for effect here because you need to hear this he writes there appeared to be two channels of US policy making an implementation one regular and one highly irregular as the chief of mission I had authority over the regular formal Diplomatic processes including the bulk of the US effort to supply Ukraine to support Ukraine against the Russian invasion and to help it defeat corruption this regular channel of US policy making is consistently had strong bipartisan support both in Congress and in all administrations since Ukraine's independence from Russia in one thousand nine hundred ninety one at the same time however there was an irregular informal channel of US policy making with respect to Ukraine one which included then special on void Kurt Volker Ambassador some Blonde Secretary of Energy Rick Perry and as I subsequently learned Rudolph Giuliani I was clearly in the regular channel but I was also in the irregular one to the extent that ambassadors Volker in some Linden -cluded me in certain conversations although this irregular channel was well connected in Washington it operated mostly outside of official State Department channels this irregular channel began when Ambassador Volker Sunland Secretary Perry and Senator Ron Johnson briefed trump on May twenty third upon return from Zilenski inauguration the delegation returned to Washington enthusiastic about the new Ukrainian president and urge trump to meet with him early on Samantha Ukraine relationship but from what I understood president trump did not share their enthusiasm for a meeting with Mr Dolinsky when I first arrived in Kiev Bill Taylor continues in June and July the actions of both the regular and irregular channels of foreign policy serve the same goal a strong US Ukraine partnership but it became clear to me by August that the channels had diverged in their objectives as this heard I became increasingly concerned in late June one of the goals of both channels was to facilitate a visit by presidents Alinsky to the White House for me thing with trump which trump had promised in his congratulatory letter of May twenty ninth the Ukrainians were clearly eager for the meeting to happen during a conference call all with Ambassador Volker Acting Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Phil Reeker Secretary Rick Perry Ambassador Sunland and the Council serve the US Department of the State of state the counselor of the US Department of State over brick bull so that's the lawyer for the State Department guessing on June eighteenth it was clear that a meeting between the two presidents was agreed upon goal but during my subsequent communications with ambassadors votes sure and some land they relate to me that the president quote quote wanted to hear from Dolinsky before scheduling the meeting at the Oval Office it was not clear to me he writes what this meant on on June twenty-seventh ambassador told me during a phone conversation that presidents the ski needed to make clear to president trump that he presidents Alinsky was not standing in the way of quote investigations you feel the the tangled web.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on Mueller Report Audio
"US Code Section thirty thirty three K. five a this letter is unclassified when separated from the attachment in the course of of my official duties. I have received information from multiple. US government officials that the president of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference appearance from a foreign country in the twenty twenty US election this interference includes among other things pressuring foreign country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals the president's personal lawyer Mr Rudolph Giuliani is a central figure in this effort attorney. General Bar appears to be involved solved as well over the past four months more than half a dozen. US officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort the information provided here in was related to me in the course of official interagency business it is routine for US officials with responsibility for a particular regional regional or functional portfolio to share such information with one another in order to inform policy making an analysis. I was not a direct witness to most of the events described described however I found my colleagues accounts of these events to be credible because in almost all cases multiple officials recounted fact patterns that were consistent with one on another in addition. A variety of information consistent with these private accounts has been reported publicly. I am deeply concerned that the actions described described below constitute a serious or flagrant problem abuse or violation of law or executive order that does not include differences of opinions concerning public. Look policy matters consistent with the definition of an urgent concern in fifty. US Code Section thirty thirty three K. Five G. I am therefore fulfilling my duty to report this information through proper legal channels to the relevant authorities. I am also concerned that these actions pose risks two. US National Security and undermine the US government's efforts to deter encounter foreign interference in US elections to the best of my knowledge the the entirety of this statement is unclassified when separated from the classified enclosure. I have endeavoured to apply the classification standards outlined in executive order thirteen scene five twenty six and separate out information that I know or have reason to believe is classified for national security purposes. If a classification marking is applied retroactively. I believe it is incumbent upon the classifying authority to explain why such a marking was applied and to which specific information that pertains one the twenty five July presidential phone call early in the morning of twenty five July the president spoke by telephone telephone with Ukrainian President Vladimir Alinsky. I do not know which side initiated the call. This was the first publicly acknowledged call between the two leaders since a brief congratulatory call after Mr Zelinski won the presidency on twenty one April Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge. The call informed me that after initial exchange of pleasantries the president used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests namely. He sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the president's twenty twenty re-election bid according to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call the president unpressured Mr Zielinski to inter alia initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son Hunter Biden assist in purportedly uncovering the allegations of Russian interference in the twenty sixteen. US presidential election originated in Ukraine with a specific request. I the Ukrainian leader locate entered over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by the cyber security firm crowd strike which initially reported reported that Russian hackers had penetrated the democratic national committee's networks in two thousand sixteen and meet or speak with two people the president named explicitly as personal envoys on these matters Mr Giuliani and attorney general bar to whom the President referred multiple times in tandem the president also praised Ukraine's Prosecutor General Mr Yuri. Let's Cinco and suggested that Mr Dolinsky might want to keep him in his position note starting on March Twenty nineteen. Mr Lukashenko made a series of public allegations many of which he later walked back about the Biden family's activities in Ukraine Ukrainian officials officials purported involvement in the two thousand sixteen. US election and the activities of the US embassy in Kiev see part four for additional context the White House officials who told me this information were deeply disturbed by what had transpired in the phone call. They told me that there was already a discussion on going with. White House lawyers lawyers about how to treat the call because of the likelihood in the officials retelling that they had witnessed the president abuse his office for Personal Gain. The Ukrainian rainy inside was the first to publicly acknowledged the phone call on the evening of twenty five July a readout was posted on the website of the Ukrainian president that contained taint the following line translation from original russian-language readout quote. Donald Trump expressed his conviction that the new Ukrainian government will be able to quickly improve Ukraine's image and complete the investigation of corruption cases that have held back cooperation between Ukraine and the United States unquote unquote aside from the above mentioned cases purportedly dealing with Biden family and the two thousand sixteen election. I was told by White House officials else that no other cases were discussed based on my understanding. There were approximately a dozen White House officials who listened to the call a mixture sure of policy officials and duty officers in the White House Situation Room as is customary. The officials I spoke with told me that participation in the call had not not been restricted in advance because everyone expected it would be a routine call with a foreign leader. I do not know whether anyone was physically present with the president during the call in addition to White House personnel. I was told that a State Department official Mr T. L. Rick Brick beal also listened in on the call. I was not the only only non White House official to receive a read out of the call based on my understanding Multiple State Department and intelligence community officials were also briefed on the contents the call as outlined above to efforts to restrict access to records related to the call in the days following the phone call all I learned from multiple. US officials that senior White House officials had intervened to lock down all records of the phone call especially the official word for word transcript of the call that was produced as is customary by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity vity of what had transpired in the call. White House officials told me that they were directed by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination finalization and distribution to cabinet level officials instead the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic Toronto system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of especially sensitive nature one. White House official described this act as an an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective. I do not know whether similar measures were taken. Hey can to restrict access to other records of the call such as contemporaneous handwritten notes taken by those who listened in three ongoing concerns on twenty six. July a day after the call US special representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker visited key and met with presidents Alinsky and a variety of Ukrainian political figures ambassador Volker was accompanied in his meetings by US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sunland based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me by various. US officials ambassadors Volcker and Sunland reportedly provided advice to the Ukrainian leadership the ship about how to navigate the demands that the president had made of Mr Zielinski. I also learned from multiple. US officials honor about to August Mr Mr Giuliani reportedly traveled to Madrid to meet with one of presidents alinsky Advisors Andrea Year Mac the US officials characterized this meeting which was is not reported publicly at the time as a direct follow up to the president's call with Mr Dolinsky about the cases they had discussed separately multiple. US officials cels told me that Mr Giuliani had reportedly privately reached out to a variety of others alinsky advisors including chief of Staff Andrei Boden and acting chairman of the Security Service of Ukraine Yvonne Alkhanov. I do not know whether those officials met or spoke with Mr Giuliani but I was told separately by multiple the US officials that Mr Your Mac and Mr Bukovsky intended to travel to Washington in mid August on nine August. The president told reporters yes. I think presidents Alinsky is going to make a deal with President Putin and he will be invited to the White House and we look forward to seeing him. He's already been invited to the White House and he wants to come and I think he will. He's a very reasonable guy. He wants to see peace in Ukraine and I think he will be coming very soon. Actually four circumstances leading up to the twenty five July presidential phone call beginning in late March twenty nineteen a series of articles appeared in an online publication called the hill in these articles several Ukrainian officials most notably prosecutor-general General Yuri Lutsenko made a series of allegations against other Ukrainian officials and current or former. US officials Mr Lukashenko and his colleagues alleged inter alia that they possessed evidence that Ukrainian officials namely head of the National Anti-corruption Bureau of Ukraine artem sit nick and member of parliament meant Sarah Healy Shaneco at interfered in the twenty sixteen US presidential election allegedly in collaboration with the Democratic National Committee and the US Embassy in achieve that the US embassy in Kiev specifically US ambassador Marie Ivanovich who had criticized Mr. Sankoh's Organization for its poor record on fighting corruption option at allegedly obstructed Ukrainian law enforcement agencies pursuit of corruption cases including by providing a do not prosecute list and had blocked Ukrainian prosecutors persecutors from traveling to the United States expressly to prevent them from delivering their evidence about the two thousand sixteen US election and that former vice president biden had pressured pressured former Ukrainian president at Shaneco in two thousand sixteen to fire then Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokhin in order to quash a purported criminal probe into Barisno. Orissa holdings a Ukrainian energy company on whose board the former vice president sons hunter sat in several public comments. Mr Lukashenko also also stated that he wished to communicate directly with attorney general bar on these matters the allegations by Mr Lukashenko came on the eve of the first round of Ukraine's crain's presidential election on thirty one march by that time Mr Lutsenko political patron President Shaneco was trailing Mr Zilenski on the polls. It appeared likely to be defeated. Misters Alinsky had made known his desire to replace Mr Lukashenko as the Prosecutor General on twenty one April. MR proportioned go lost the runoff misters Alinsky by a landslide see enclosure for additional information. It was also publicly reported that Mr Giuliani Johnny had met on at least two occasions with Mr Lukashenko once in New York City in January and again in Warsaw in mid-february in addition. It was publicly publicly reported that Mr Giuliani had spoken in late twenty eighteen to former prosecutor general shokhin in a skype call arranged by two associates of Mr Giuliani on twenty five April in an interview with Fox News the president called Mr Lukashenko's claims big and incredible and stated that the Attorney General would want to you see this honor about twenty nine April I learned from US officials with direct knowledge of the situation that ambassador Yovany Vich had been suddenly recalled called to Washington by senior State Department officials for consultations and would most likely be removed from her position around the same time I also learned from a US US official that associates of Mr Giuliani were trying to make contact with the incomings Alinsky team on six may the State Department announced that Ambassador Ianovich which would be ending her assignment and Kiva as planned however several. US officials told me that in fact her tour was curtailed because of pressure stemming from Mr Lukashenko's SANCO's allegations Mr Giuliani subsequently stated in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist published on fourteen may that Ambassador Yovani rich was removed moved because she was part of the efforts against the president on nine may the New York Times reported that Mr Giuliani planned to travel to Ukraine to press the Ukrainian cranium government to pursue investigations that would help the president in his twenty twenty reelection bid in his multitude of public statements leading up to and in the wake of the publication of this article. Mr Giuliani confirmed that he was focused on encouraging Ukrainian authorities to pursue investigations into alleged Ukrainian interference in the twenty sixteen. US election and alleged wrongdoing by the Biden family on the afternoon of ten may the President stated in an interview with politico that he he planned to speak with Mr Giuliani about the trip a few hours later. Mr Giuliani publicly cancelled his trip claiming that Mr Alinsky was surrounded by enemies of the the US president of the United States on eleven may Mr Lukashenko met for two hours with president elect Zielinski according to a public account well given several days later by Mr Sankoh. Mr Lukashenko publicly stated that he had told Mister Dolinsky that he wished to remain as prosecutor general starting starting in mid-may. I heard from multiple. US officials that they were deeply concerned by what they viewed as Mr Giuliani circumvention of national security decision making processes assesses to engage with Ukrainian officials and rela- messages back and forth between KIEF and the president..
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Young Turks
"Records of the the conversation so I'm going to read to you that portion which outlines what the administration tried to do so the whistle blower complaints says in in the days following the phone call I learned from multiple. US officials that senior White House officials had intervened to lock down all records of the phone call especially elite the official word for word transcript and of the call that was produced as is customary by the White House Situation Room this set off this set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call he can he your she continues to write White House. Officials told me that they were directed by White House warriors to remove the electronics transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination finalization and distribution to cabinet level officials one more part of this instead the transcript gripped was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature one one White House official described this act as an abuse of the electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective okay now. Let me tell you why this is monumentally important so it's not that we're learning about a new call. It's not that we're learning that anything that happened in that. Call is worse. I than we realized yet okay but what we're learning is two different things one is they knew it was bad now. That's not just US politically important legally important because some laws are based on a state of mind. Did they intend to do the wrong thing and you know this this with murder cases homicides and manslaughter is different based on intent. I meant to go kill the guy and I had intent ahead of time to do it or it was is an accident when we got into a fight and I was heated etc right so in this case when they go to hide the phone call that trump had with the Ukrainian president. They know that it's bad they know that it's potentially illegal. That's why they're hiding it and the fact that they took that physical action to do it shows intent tent. They knew it. They know it now. The second reason why it's hugely important is number one as Anna explained really carefully carefully yesterday. What we showed yesterday was not a transcript? It was a written down regulation of the of the call and we don't know if it was complete. The transcript does exist in the secret database yes so you could pull it out and maybe find other things that were said in that perfect call and trump is so proud that it was a perfect while of course partly because he's stupid again. He doesn't know the admitted to the crime but partly maybe because he thought already hit the bad stuff okay A. and then finally we're going to get more details on this in a second they might have hidden more things in that same database. ooh ooh okay men. They're in a world of hurt trump again not bright enough to understand the kind of trouble he's in but you you could tell this panic response that oops. I didn't realize it was GONNA be this bad. I just want to note that there have been colleagues of mine who have now how turned on me when it comes to our vets They were sure that I was going to win. This bet Jank believes that Donald Trump will eventually step down before the twenty twenty twenty election even takes place so we took this. I don't think that's going to happen and now because of all this new information that's coming out your cases becoming stronger or so. Let let's do a couple of things here first of all this second of all this. Hey okay. I got it all right so seriously guy seriously this reminds me of the seriously. This reminds me of the Beaufort Fight Story. I told members in the post game when I got knocked down I got hit in the year at Cetera and then came back into the crowd started chanting rocky. I'm not saying that the control rooms channing rocky there. I'm just say by the way if you want to hear that story. TYP NOT DOT com slash join so let's go to other portions of this redacted whistleblower complaint that I think are relevant so oh it starts off by saying quote in the course of my official duties. I have received information from multiple. US government officials that the president of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the twenty twenty US election so this whistle blower makes it abundantly clear that here she believes leave that these communications are all about trying to influence the two thousand twenty election with the help of foreign leader the interference includes among other things things pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals the president's personal lawyer Mr Rudolph Giuliani is a central figure figure in this effort Attorney General William Bar appears to be involved as well also. This whistleblower complaint says I was not a direct witness to most of the events described. This is something that the trump administration is really harping on however I've found colleagues accounts of these events to be incredible because in almost all cases multiple officials recounted fact patterns that were consistent with one another so this is also really important the nearest half a dozen people who might have had access to that call who the whistleblower talk to and they have the names so meaning meaning that whistleblower has the names you call whistle blower in gives you the names you've calling the six people and by the way if you're a trump supporter if this is a hoax accent witch-hunt etc those six people will say oh no absolutely not I mean the president didn't say anything about children. We already know he's getting dirt on Joe Biden. It's already over but if there's an extra layer to it an extra crime of of saying I will withhold the money as just being more explicit said about what he already said and what we already know in the call those six witnesses could either verify or dispute it refuted so if you're after the truth and your trump then you should want them to come forward right so this is not based on one individual who went to this whistle blower and and raise some concerns about Donald Trump's actions or multiple people. That's important to keep in mind especially for stories that we're going to cover later so I now I want to get to Donald trump trying to influence the dealings with prosecutors within Ukraine which which we've talked about a little bit but this helps us suss it out a little more the president also praised raised Ukraine's prosecutor a prosecutor general specifically and suggested that Mr Dolinsky might WanNa keep him in his position and then includes a note starting in March of two thousand nine hundred this prosecutor general made a series of public allegations many of which he later walked back about the Biden family's activities in Ukraine so trump is thinking well. This prosecutor general might be on my side. He might help dig up some of this dirt on the Biden family so let me just suggest that he should keep this prosecutor general in place look guys. There's actually no factual dispute that Donald Trump asked Ukraine lean to dig up dirt on his political opponent he it's in the call. It's in the call. That's already being released so it does any Republican even deny that you can't deny it's already in the released part of the calls so does that mean Republicans think Oh yeah it's totally okay if my democratic craddock opponent goes and asks for help from any foreign country to make corruption charges on me. That's totally fine totally fine so what you can't say that it's illegal and it'd be mental then the democratic opponents can be like all right China. What do you got on corruption on Congressman ex-senator? Wi whether it's real or unreal who cares has come help my campaign Iran helped my campaign Cuba come help my campaign so preposterous question and it really does matter because depending on how this plays out obviously more people will be implicated in this investigation so as you've mentioned a million times donald trump doesn't really seem to know the law all care about the law he keeps doing things without really thinking about the ramifications or consequences now one can argue. He hasn't had to face any consequences thus far so maybe he does know what the law is and he's decided to brazenly break it anyway however look the the fact that there were White House officials who wanted to hide ride the evidence of this phone call right so are there people protecting trump trump. Has these conversations. He's thinking being like yeah. I'm having a normal conversation. There's no big deal others in the administration hear the call. They know that it's problematic. They know that he's breaking the law here and they decide to move forward forward with hiding a transcript of it. Yes behalf well. He doesn't take from green know how to move a call into a secret database so there's no no question and there are people inside the White House who are doing it for him and hence helping him and guys this is really important. I'm loved Anna brought about so trump. Trump has fired every competent person in his administration. Whatever little of them existed in the first place and he's replaced them with latkes and yes men because to him like a mob boss US loyalty is more important than competence because and it actually makes sense if you're a mob boss? If anyone is this loyalty. You're going to go to prison for the rest of your life so for that particular job. Loyalty is more important than companies but what that does is it creates a number of people after you weeded through some people trump has had done that are generally incompetent but willing to break the law and most importantly bow their heads so yes sir of course Sir Sir asking for favors from foreign government to attack your political opponents of course Sir yes sir because anyone who says no is fired right and anyone anyone who doesn't play ball and is willing to commit crimes is fired part of the reason trump's on this his whole life and people who worked at the trump organization explain how he did it in the business world. Is that so eventually he also has a fall guy so he says I didn't move it into a secret database. This schmuck did right and remember he recently just said about Giuliani oh well. I guess you'd have to ask him that. I don't know anything about that. You see that's why he's surrounded by guys who are willing to break the law uh not challenge him on things that are obvious and gets himself into this kind of situation. This is an enormously family run business whether you're doing that nefarious various way or not. This is the White House you're GONNA get caught brother and I mean I'm surprised it took this long and it's only because your opponents are Democrats exactly so the whistle blower also outlines the way in which he or she was concerned with the way the Ukrainian government responded following the call also. I want to give you a little portion of that. The Ukrainian side was the first publicly acknowledge the phone call on the evening of the twenty fifth of July. A read out was posted on the website of the Ukrainian president and contain the following line and then he mentioned that the translation was from original russian-language readout okay so Donald Trump expressed his conviction that the new Ukrainian government will be able to quickly improve Ukraine's image and complete the investigation investigation of corruption cases that have held back cooperation between Ukraine and the United States so you know they have this call and they he put out this statement saying we have this wonderful call. Donald Trump believes that we're going to really improve the image of Ukraine a day after the call US Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Association's Kurt Volker visited Kiev and and met with President Zilenski and variety of Ukrainian political figures ambassador Voelker was accompanied in his meetings by US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sunland based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me by various..
What kind of president would Ukraine's comedian candidate make?
"Floods. Alinsky a TV comedy actor pays to be on coast. Unseat president petro Porsche Schenker in the second round of Ukraine's presidential elections this weekend Casey Martin discusses how he got there. And what kind of president he would make Roman audio audiology. Glue. We've just had a clip from a campaign video of Mr. landscape taking selfish with his team what kind of character does he play on TV, and how did he go from acting into politics? Let me start off by saying that Mr. Zielinski is a very funny and talented comedian who strikes the basic emotional courts with average Ukrainians, and I think it's very important to put this into context the country is into a six year of war in far eastern regions where Russian backed separatists, and it's gone through a lot of economic pain during these past years and his performances, including his comedy performances where he mocks politicians is sort of escape a release for the population. That has a lot of anger on various issues from lingering corruption to the economic pain. They're feeling in his popular TV series called servants of the people where he plays a honest schoolteacher who becomes president unexpectedly. He plays a. Character who combat's the oligarchy, it's a very popular widely watched TV show in the country, and it presents sort of the ideal president that the people would like to see in contrast. The current president who has a patchy reform record is an oligarchy himself and in the TV series of until the people. There are episodes, for example, where Mr. Dolinsky playing the role of this on a schoolteacher walks into parliament and imagine himself with automatic guns shooting in killing all the politicians in such scenes are scenes that many Ukrainians who are fed up with corruption. I'm sure would like to see perhaps maybe not in real life. But they would like to see someone who comes into power that really changes the way the system here works. I mean, he's clearly struck a code. But how did he make that transition into real politics in real life? He hasn't made a transition to a sort of a conventional Ukrainian politician Ukrainian still to this day. See him as the character in the TV show. They haven't really seen the real Mr. Lansky in neither have Ukraine's western backers nor even journalists because he hasn't really given a lot of face to face interviews. In depth interviews. He hasn't appeared on the streets doing traditional campaign rallies. And so you cranium seeing him often what they want to see is sort of character, who is honest who is just an average person who is fed up with the system in wants to change it, and that's really the unorthodox campaign that he's run his campaign is focused largely on two fronts mobilizing the youth. Electorate the young generation who see him as one of their own and he targeted them specifically through social media. Meanwhile, we have the television series, which a lot of elderly Ukrainians watch. Is he young and south Hello to say he's forty one years of age. So he basically grew up in independent Ukraine and is not Butte as the same as the current political stablishment. Who are all Soviet born and developed this people partially in the Soviet Union. And during the crony nineteen ninety s where a handful of individuals, amass massive amounts of wealth. So he's viewed as this anti-establishment figure by population which desperately wants big changes and a change from the current establishment with fresh faces. Recent polls have shown that sixty or perhaps more percentage of the population. Want a new face as president and new faces in parliaments a complete overhaul politically service really isn't extraordinary situation, a new sort of campaign, but what his policies how do they differ from his opponent? Petra parish Anka, you're right. It's a very surreal situation in many respects, and it's just astonishing. How popular he's become in a very short period of time since declaring his bid for the presidency on New Year's Eve, which was just several months ago. But in reality, we don't really. We know who he really is in what kind of policies he would bring in how different they would be from portion goes because he has been very short on detail. He is avoided as I've said in depth interviews on foreign policy domestic policy giving very general statements in many ways, the general statements that he's given since a group of several former fficials had joined him as advisors have been along the lines of the current objectively that Ukraine is going on in terms of foreign and domestic policy, which means sticking with the IMF program and with the western-backed support, countering Russian its aggression. So what are the achievements and shortcomings of Mr. putter Shankar as president has he done thing to tackle the corruption that seems to be the biggest concern in seems to be fueling so much enthusiasm for Mr. landscape. Let's remember that Mr. Persian go took power when he was elected with fifty four percent mandate. Just a couple of months after the my Don revolution sent a pro Russian president. Fleeing to Russia and Russia at that time after the revolution. Swiftly annexed Crimea and fomented a war in the far eastern regions of the country since taking over Persian go has rebuilt the army, which was caught flat-footed in the early days of the war under his leadership. That government has achieved. A macro economic stability creating the foundations for a healthier economy across the board. There have been significant reforms in removing the room for corruption in rent-seeking in various sectors of economy, including bringing market level prices to utilities and independence to the central Bank. However, the major shortcoming of Mr. partial go, his political achilles heel has been his foot-dragging on reforms that are needed to punish corruption in forming. A functioning court system to give a little bit of context the court systems in this country. Have traditionally been used by presidents and other top officials as a form of leverage over other politicians. They have not been independent. So it sounds like fuse. Yeltsin for his campaign is rather low for Mr. portion goes, yes, it's been rather low. However, he has made a remarkable comeback though. His chances of reelection seem distant his poll numbers about a year ago were in single digits in the first round of elections on March thirty first he came in second behind Mr. Zilenski, he mustered about thirteen percent support that is a significant increase from the single digit numbers that he had prior to that said gang back to MRs van ski his career has been backed by another oligarchy lives in exile. But owns the TV channel that screens his shows. Tell us about eager Cowboys we ski and why he had to leave Ukraine. Yes eager. Komo's ski is. A very interesting character we had to find out your times interviewed him a couple years back. He was camera shy for many decades, but came out into the open of Ukrainian politics after Russia annexed Crimea. He accepted the job as governor of a region that borders the Br. Takeaway regions in eastern Ukraine that Russian-backed forces in separatists took control over he played a big role in repelling further incursions into the country, and we interviewed him shortly after that and found him to be in some ways of very candid figure, but impulsive and obsessive in clearly one who seeks influence, and he had a big grudge against portion cone, those days what we've seen is that Mr Hallam Whiskas channels have been giving a great amount of airtime to misters Alinsky and his TV series in particular, and this has increased support for misters Alinsky. We also see. There are reports that lawyers that we met in the presence of Mr. Colin Moise are playing a sort of backroom role in advising, Mr. linski. There are reports that bodyguards of Mr. cola Moise have been hired by mister is Alinsky to protect him and other evidence of links. So there is a lot of concern that Mr. linski could be a puppet of Mr. cola Moise as Mr Puerta shaneco claim. Tmz Mr. Zielinski, however has denied this and promises that don't be no special treatment for Mr. cola Moise, who by the way promises to return to Ukraine from Israel where he's in exile, currently after the elections. So he may have some practical backing from Khulumani scape. But if we'd have situation where for example, he wins what sort of policy input. Does he have what kind of backing does he have in that sense much of what we know about Mr. Alinsky is potential policies going forward? Come from a group of former government ministers in officials that have become his advisors. They include the respected former foreign minister of Ukraine Oleksandr done. Luke who was a key official in relations with the IMF. And a former economy minister deliver wanian born Ibarra Abramova choose those two along with another individual who's advising him are saying that the policies will be consistent with the IMF program. And that Ukraine will remain on a pro. Western course, however. What really will happen under his presidency remains a bit of a question because he has not formally announced who will be members of his team who will hold what positions in the government and doubts are big. Because in some of the first comments that misters Alinsky gave to the media after announcing his campaign. He said a lot of things that raised eyebrows. For example, he described IMF loans as to expensive when they are actually some of the cheapest sources of financing that Ukraine can get nowadays. So what's at stake here for Ukraine? Why did he's elections matter? There's an awful lot at stake here for Ukraine Ukraine is on the front lines of Russia's broader war with the west which started in two thousand fourteen with the annexation of Crimea. There's also an awful lot of steak for the west here unpredictable leadership in Ukraine unclear governing could complicate Ukraine's relations with western backers including the multibillion dollar loans that are needed from the IMF their key to propping up this country as it faces. P conformed debt payments this next year. So there's a lot at stake for bondholders in Ukrainian debt, for example, questions about Ukraine's leadership under misters Alinsky. And no one knows very much what to expect for him could also test the transatlantic unity behind Ukraine and Russia sanctions over Moscow's, continued aggression in Ukraine, a vacuum of power in Ukraine, should it occur under his Alinsky leadership or more infighting could also lead to instability that could make the country more vulnerable to further Russian aggression. And let's remember that Russia really seize the moment, tactically annexing, Crimea and formenting a war in eastern regions in the post revolution period of Ukraine in two thousand fourteen when there was no strong vertical of power. So high stakes in a very unpredictable situation. Remers thanks very much. Thank you.
Comics relief? Ukraines presidential race
"In the hit Ukrainian comedy show. Servant of the people. I history teachers, expletive strewn anti corruption rant goes viral. And this man of the people winds up being elected president. But throw which but there's some fifteen. The comedian who plays him load. Amir's Alinsky is trying to turn fiction into reality voters head to the polls on Sunday for the first round of Ukraine's presidential elections and not only Mr. linski in the race. He's the front runner. Five years ago. Ukrainians took to the streets that overthrew their former president Viktor Yanukovych since then they faced a simmering war in the east of their country with Russia, which also annexed the Crimean peninsula. Noah Sneider is our Moscow correspondent, he recently visited Mr. Lansky onset in Kiev. They've seen their economy crash and come back from the brink. And they've seen many of the promises of the revolution unfulfilled, especially when it comes to fighting corruption that's opened a huge Gulf of distrust with the authorities and that has led to a strange situation where the front runner in. These elections is a comedian an actor with no political experience whatsoever riding this wave of anti-establishment sentiment and frustration towards a likely victory. And I understand that you you met Mr. linski recently. I did. So I went and saw him onset where he was filming latest season of his TV show serving the people. And the scene that was playing out was telling it showed the Lansky character taking the oath of office. He enters a sort of historical flashback a dialogue with a trio of important figures. Plato prince flood of Kiev, and the Slavic philosopher Grigory Scotto, the, and what ensues is sort of philosophical dialogue on the nature of power. And this, of course, has a double meaning since he may be taking that oath right soon. And so when you met him after he was filming how did he come across? Mr. charming mound. And actor who knows how to hold the room. But at the same time, he's had a hard time being very specific. At all about what he plans to do. Once he becomes president in part. It's a need campaign strategy it allows voters to see him as an empty vessel that they can fill with their hopes will what about his own hopes. Did he speak to you about why he wants to run for office? He talked about wanting to change things about wanting to make the country better. He came around eventually to answer that he summed up as I want my kids to be able to say that my dad was a normal guy. Great guy and these motivations for many voters raise questions because of his somewhat. Murky ties with color mois key, the guard who owns the TV channel on which Mr. Lansky show has aired the to maintain that they're not in cahoots and that there's nothing to their relationship beyond the business one. But missed his Lansky vague answers have fueled the suspicions about why he actually has decided to run then without prejudice to wear his platform might be coming from. What is he actually said he'll do first and foremost, he's promised to maintain Ukraine's course, towards western integration integration with the European Union. He's talked about fighting corruption and somewhat vaguely about ending the war about finding away to negotiate with mister Putin at the same time. His ideological stance is. Quite over the map, we talked to him about which world leaders, he admired which figures he associated himself with global politics, and he invoked to names in particular day able scenario the right wing populace, president of Brazil. And France's among well Macron. Mccall who's liberal technocrat the Gulf between their policies and their positions is enormous. And again, perhaps suggests that Mr. Lonski is is a bit unfamiliar with the territory he's wandering onto. And I guess that's particularly worrisome in the sense that he's up against a ladder Putin for a chunk of his country. Absolutely. Mr Putin has nineteen years of executive experience under his belt. He's a wily operator and will not miss the opportunity to use his opponent's inexperience to his advantage, and how did Mr. linski and up here. How comedian with no political experience leading the polls. I think the main reason is frustration frustration amongst ordinary Ukrainians with their post revolutionary leadership when they overthrew the previous president victory on the kovic in two thousand fourteen. There was a great deal of hope that the deeply corrupt. Oligarchy political system that has gripped Ukraine since the fall of the Soviet Union would finally change and that fundamental promise has been left unfulfilled. So although Ukraine has made some important reforms, although the country is moving closer to Europe citizens now enjoy visa-free travel to the U, for example. They don't feel like the system has fundamentally changed three quarters of Ukrainian say the country is headed in the wrong direction. Just nine percent have faith in their national government. That's the lowest figure of any country survey by Gallup polling agency. And you see that frustration spill out onto the streets quite regularly. They're anti corruption protests in Kiev in the same place often has where the revolution in two thousand fourteen began. And so who is Mr. linski running against are there more. Let's call them standard candidates. There's nearly forty candidates running for president. But the front runners are a pair of old faces from the old guard. There's the incumbent president petro parsh- Anco who came to office in two thousand fourteen in the wake the revolution promising to root out corruption and change this old system people largely feel that he's failed to do. So the second major challenger to mister Lonski is Hewlett Michenko. She's a former prime minister came to prominence after the orange revolution two thousand four and she's reinvented herself this time around as populous. Okay. So you've got two establishment candidates and one wildcard does that look like it's going to be a fair fight at least at the polls. That's big question. And it's the thing that people are most worried about in key, if these days, there are not only fears about the influence of oligarchy television. But also. Hello fears about straight up vote, rigging and vote-buying and vast majority of Ukrainians, in fact, don't believe that these will be free and fair elections, and that could be the most dangerous outcome of all. But let's suppose things are relatively clear cut and Mr. Dolinsky gets through the first round as expected. What do you reckon happens? Then the polling shows the in most cases, he would win head to head matchup with Mr. partial go and with Mr. machine go, but a lot of it depends on things like voter turnout misters Lonski basis, younger less reliable. So it's really hard to say. And if he were to win in the second round and become president he'd inherit the simmering war with Russia, which has massive implications for relations between Russia and the west he would inherit an economy that still struggling could benefit from further reform, and he would face a brutal fight over parliamentary elections in the fall.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on WGN Radio
"He's also the hungry hound on ABC seven here in Chicago longtime award-winning reporter could see Steve great to see you. Thanks for having me on this new show. Congratulations on the reboot. Thanks, man. And I want to have a band that follows me around like, and I'm gonna get you suck out with the shaft theme. That's all I want to have that song trail me down. Michigan avenue that the pizza. I would love that. People would buy the book they would buy the book, they take the tour. They've who is that guy. Like, garlic and oregano. How would be great you have been known to have. And I want to get into the revival food hall stuff. But you've been known to have a pretty eclectic palette you that's one thing. I've always loved about you diversity, and in the food that you would cover whether it's Asian cuisine or some sort of hybrid or downtown restaurants, but you have landed on pizza, and it is now you're making t-shirts you've got songs you've got books got tours. Why why pizza over all the other food that you've tasted in the world kind of by accident? Actually, honestly, if I would have thought it would've been something that I'm really super duper passionate about it might have been Korean food, and I was super jealous. The Tribune did a whole thing on new Koreatown this week. But pizza came up about two three years ago because I read a list of online saying these are the seven hottest pizza places. And I thought it was kind of, you know, bunk because I didn't think that that person done the research, and I thought well, how difficult is it to go actually eat the pizza places and find out is there kind of a definitive order, and what's the categories and rankings. And so I just took it upon myself to do and it took me about what the first wave was seventy six places it took three and a half months. I did three and four days. And then I got this book deal with north western university press, and then I did another one hundred nine and so I kinda just sort of like a dog that bit into something. I just couldn't let it go obsessive. It was a little obsessive because people this is the other thing about social media people China like, hey, if you don't go to pudgy and Haig wish this list is worthless. Hey, you better go to Phil's in. Oaklawn I'm telling you, Mr. Dolinsky, don't forget about Barnaby, Northbrook. Do they freak out when you actually show up? Well, yeah. Because then I would post something about it from this place. I went to this place. But there are a lot of sacred. Cows in Chicago. And I talk about this in the book, they're are talking about the peak syndrome pizza. I grew up eating syndrome like my friends from home would floss more. They swear by a really has the best pizza in the world. You know, and I get that. Because you grew up with that pizza, and that's your thing. And so my whole approach was hey, I grew up in Minnesota. I've lived in Chicago for twenty five years. I don't have that bias about a little league game or asleep over something that affected me as a child here. And so I come in with fresh eyes and everybody got a fair shake there were no nobody gonna pass you are on the program because we want to talk about revival food hall. But I think it fits into the theme tonight. We're talking about transformations. And and for you to move from what you've done as a reporter for years telling everybody's story to telling the story of pizza to curate. Now. I mean, you're making a transition and transformation to where you are finding a way to continually develop your career because the book is so much about you know, telling people kinda where to. Go what I liked and what's interesting, and that there's more to Chicago than deep and stuffed. And of course, my my thesis is that it's a tavern style than thin and crispy scorecard town, and so I kind of curate this if you will through the book like, hey, you should try this you should try. This ought to be eleven heard a lot of these places like my pie, for example. And then the next step is someone asks me, hey, could you curate this pop up series at this food hall in the loop with a very high visibility? You know, who would you bring in here? And so, yeah, I feel like that's their entrusting me with something very sacred in Chicago. We talked about pizza. Yeah. You know, and who would you deem sort of noteworthy and locally grown and homegrown. That's a big responsibility is something really interesting about this concept in the way that revival food hall is just one of several food halls that have popped up downtown Chicago. You certainly see this trend around the country this idea that it's essentially the food court. They they've the food court a lot of. Small businesses, and and very elite food companies are coming in and serving their wares. But decided of you coming in and saying I'm going to pop up every two months, it's gonna be a different pizza. I'm going to I'm going to bring you my taste, my thoughts to this. That's something different. I mean, that's something that I feel at a certain point. We might see more of that chefs choices restaurant restaurant tours choices things like that. Where there are different ways to serve the clientele downtown than just a brick and mortar space because listen, if you have the general manager of a food hauled saying, I think this is good versus the guy who's been covering pizza for quite a bit. In Chicago saying this is pretty good. I think they probably carry some weight probably the good thing for us as we get visibility for the tours in the book, and there's pizza city USA on the on this kiosk for the whole year. So it's good in that respect too. But I remember Anthony bourdain years ago, he was going to curate something on the west side of the of the city, and it got a lot of attention because they hear somebody. Who's going to bring in these small mom and pops that probably, you know, they wouldn't come otherwise, I think that's the other thing. So when I reached out to like pats. They trust me. There's a level of trust there because you've been doing tours with those guys. And they know what we're about. And said, look, I'm not going to put you in a situation where you're gonna flop and there's a lot of testing back and forth. He went to the to the ovens quite a bit. On Sundays just to make sure they worked with their style of pizza. Well, that's the thing. The you're going into a space that was already a pizza place writers, the union was union union square. But again, it's a specific. It's a Blodget. It's a stone deck gets to six hundred fifty you can't do Neopolitan pizzas. And there so I couldn't get spoken -opoly or for neurosis because those are wood-burning ovens. You can't use a place that needs to have nine hundred degrees. Eight hundred degrees because it only gets a six fifty pats issue was there's a steel deck at their oven in Lincoln park. And they're not used to stone deck, and stolen is actually poorest and pulls more moisture from the bottom of the dough. And they already have a very dry dough at Pat. So you don't need to have that situation. So there's a lot of testing with temperature and placement in the oven. And I want to make sure these guys showing their best. The best foot forward and the idea of bringing a neighborhood place to downtown Chicago to to essentially feed Chicagoans who who may not be going out there. Who did you pick? Let's talk about this because it's a year long. Thanks a year long. So every three months of my pie just started on Monday. Now, they've been around since seventy one they are only five months younger than Lumo noughties believe there are fifty to lose. I think there's one my pie one my. Yeah. And so I've loved them since day one staple in town. And they're in that right there in that where that seven eleven. Rian nail place. Unassuming very unassuming, very hidden. And so if you don't know the place in town, you never gonna get it. And we take people there on the tour sometimes. And now, they love it. They're like, I never knew this was here and they've been around since seventy one. So they're the first deep dish. We're going to do and they're they're now Monday through Friday the halls from like ten thirty in the morning until seven at night, the cool thing what they're doing. So you think deep deep dish. They do personal pan pizzas all day long like seven or eight different flavors after four pm. You can get a big large pizza like the one. I brought you here tonight. Just gorgeous in three months. It switches over middle of June two pats pizzas. So they've been around since nineteen fifty classic tavern style thin and crispy square cuts there from north Lincoln avenue. They're going to be there for three months this summer and then in September as Dante's which is a couple occasions in the city, mostly Logan square and Avondale they do New York style slice and a lot of Chicagoans think. Oh, we don't have that kind of style. Here. We do Dante's is one of the best. I think and then the last one is Palermo's ninety fifth from Oakland. John just a classic Chicago thin crust joint the little sweeter sauce. So you little like a little sugar on the south side. So that's going to be the hallmark there from December probably through March of next year so full year of programming every three months, and we're going to do third Thursday tours. So the third Thursday of the month. We're gonna offer a pizza tour that starts at revival on Thursdays at six o'clock to you. If an oven goes out or light bulb burns out are you on the hook? You gotta go. Nope. Nope. My job. I am not the owner. I am not the proprietor. Really? I just I'm the curator. Again, we get some exposure for our brand, and you know, pizza city USA dot com is great and people should come and take the tour. We'll come back more with Steve Dolinsky here on extension seven twenty. We'll talk more about pizza and other things about Chicago food before we wrap up the hour at ten o'clock extension. Seven twenty stay with us..
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on New Jersey 101.5
"University. Chime time to eat. Myself out of Beirut. Once I think I can get out of New Jersey. Don't be so sure others have tried and failed the entire population. Was facing New Jersey. Paul from jersey. Uncle back jersey started up a business, again, don't even tell me you met her down the shore and was planning a class field trip to a French bread factory. He said was used to Menlo Park. Mall is marking dancing. Another night. Hello taste, New Jersey. Please sold out. What that's a lovely accent. You have New Jersey live from New Jersey. Radio. All right. It is diminished. Doyle except. There's no dementia today. And I'm big Bill Doyle aren't filling in for Mr. Dolinsky is the other Jeff step, Jeff Jeff Elstein who's getting a lot of work this week because this whole place is sick. It's like the Walking Dead zombie show. I don't remember ever being like this in the years. I've been here.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on The Beat with Ari Melber
"And with that, which is a very guilty explanation. My and you know, it's funny when I was talking to Jerome outside we were talking about errands, Alinsky who we vote dealt with a molar prosecute Muller prosecutor, and we just have such different views of him. So it's, you know, in terms of well, you go I think Alinsky is basically was thug. He basically his old techniques yawning acting up asking rapid fire. Fire questions. I mean, I went into cooperate, and I did not expect to be treated like a criminal from the beginning. They were treating me like a criminal first day even threatening to put me in prison for the rest of my life for memory mistakes. They allow me to amend my testimony over and over again, you think what what someone call the bad cop routine hardball, youth thought was unfairly adversary. Let's break you, and including the whole group genie re was the same genie. We disparage my religion, which I do not appreciate even today. I had no contact with Julian Assange, this was the only real break-up in the discussion. I had surely you're not suggesting that it is malpractice or legal for re to as you put it allegedly a talk about your religion. I mean, you've done that anytime with ads president quite a bit that sort of what you're known. There's no no that's not that's not fair. And you're part airy the point is you're known as the founder birth, and we're not getting deep into it. I'm just saying you Jeanie re. Okay. Are you being judged by the same stand show me the original nineteen sixty one birth certificate material from formal? As they say in the news business. We don't have time for that. Oh, yes. We don't don't have have time. time go the other day for that the other day. I was thinking this Alinsky my voluntary asked me so many times about Trump Tower Moscow. It got to a point where when he brought it up again like within an hour. I'm talking multiple times in what month they my voluntary in February in February of last year, and in February what kind of questions where they ask him. What our Moscow what do, you know about Trump Tower Moscow? You never heard anything about Trump Tower Moscow. Well, was anything talked about rushing business with vis-a-vis Trump or anything like that? I I was irritated about things. Like that. I would tell you in my experience what they've asked me. They had reasons to ask me. They had a foundation and a reason and that's the job they're doing. That's the job. Mr caputo. I had a different experience with Alinsky. I think it's like three different people. I think my way with a negative view. We had a more legitimate view, and your view is right in the middle. I think Aaron was probably just getting wound up when he let let me go. But you know, he wasn't a pleasant person. I don't expect that to be the case in an interview with the special counsel. But at the same time, I've been you know, I raised money in a go fund me, and I paid the legal fees of a lot of different people who've been in front of the special counsel a lot for different people who've been in front of the special counsel, one person in particular is Andrew Miller who is challenging the Miller versus the United States, the actual appointments of Robert Mueller, and he spent and he's his attorney spent time in front of the ends Alinsky. And they had a terribly negative time with him very sounded a lot more like Dr courses experience than mine. And even Sara Lee screamed at me was because I had announced on your show that week before that I was going to voluntary interview. He he got angry with me because I told him I was going to talk to the media. Investigators were asking you to do what? Instead, don't talk don't talk to the media and the stakeout downstairs, I misunderstood him to think that to say that I should never talk to the media again. I said so I have no first amendment, right? They broke. My attorney went out and talked to my attorney explained to me that Mr. Dolinsky and the FBI agents really didn't want anybody to talk in front of the media downstairs because the backdrop could show where they're located..
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on WPRO 630AM
"John back john batchelor show i welcome henry calls he is the director of the nonproliferation policy center which can be translated into iran deal and connected opportunities right now the question of nuclear proliferation will be dominant for the conversation both overseas and here at home in these next weeks because of the possibility suggested by the trump administration that the us will walk back from the iran deal of two thousand fifteen the recent visit of the crown prince of saudi arabia mohammad bin salman also is part of this conversation about iran henry's here to help us understand how the iran deal and the mvp of saudi arabia to acquire nuclear energy plans are all part of the unsolved proliferation tangle for the united states for the united nations and for such as henry thinking about the future with with what appears to be the ability of many countries to create the conditions that allow them to build bombs henry a very good evening to you we begin with your colleague in your article mr dolinsky and you are your article about the saudi ambition saudi arabian ambition for nuclear energy getting past the first ironic point why do they need it they've got all that oil saudi arabia is interested to build nuclear energy plants and the argument f i understand correctly the argument advanced by the trump administration and the person of the energy secretary rick perry as if we don't do it or if we don't help it or if we don't permit it russia and china will that's the first thing you take on first of all is that a serious argument for washington are they thinking if we don't get their first russia and china will take our business and what is wrong with that argument good evening to you henry well thank you for having me under program i always enjoy coming on good questions in that first one is an excellent one the narrative is as you describe it if we don't do it russia will and then perhaps china what what i find difficult was that is it doesn't make any sense if you know just a little bit more about the product.
"mr. dolinsky" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Oh oh that's no but when i'm trying to help you here i know that proves that that's the point a little bit just extended you know people like to be presented with the candidates in your home state or on the corner and i didn't think she was warm perhaps if i met her and shook her hand right would have swayed me it's important to meet that i know i've mentioned this before but there was a guy and steve you'll have to help me out with what job he held but editor wenski was he a congressman dolinsky was a congressman had blade so every four years he would come to our school and speak at our school edgar wenski would speak to a bunch of grades care while the yes like the kids were so wowed by it because yeah congress show respect so not only did they care but when it was over they would line up and get his autograph and mr dolinsky would speak about things that most third graders weren't really that up on any way but you know we would all sit there and it was a congressman and then at the end he would really really make this clear make sure you tell your moms and dads when you get home that the congressman at drew wenski was there and you met him and he was very nice to and he brought you cookies a few of those third graders probably were old enough to vote by the time couple couple but like even as a kid i'm like oh that's the game you plant it and your kids heads go home tell your moms and dads and i'm sure they did and that probably translated into votes it was a good move for him i guess it's a good idea i know we have to go but joe you got thirty seconds here go ahead hi wendy i i kinda agree with you a little bit sometimes we need someone you can tell if they're lying or if they're genuine and if you actually get a chance to talk to them you just ask them questions about what the issues are and you can see how they're going to answer them i mean you can tell by team somebody whether you'd want to vote former now is it ever happened to you well i need them but a lot of the.