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02:20 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"The guy says yeah too bad that's the illegal fred but you know you can't go to thailand like thailand that's true it's just its way fred i mean you heard about you ever heard about purves in thailand yeah maybe he will ever that midstream yeah i'm so i'm ready to be done with this all he has now please unaware or iranian hopefully didn't discover tile and hopefully just got cancer and died in the worst counting of with at hand the deadlock admitted the deed agony for years i would i would i hope that long ago that seems appropriate yeah we will post some links to some research on our website where you can also download and listen to the show as well as find links to our merchandise stores that website is thinking say with podcast dot com you can obviously stream us pretty much anywhere he probably know where you're finding your podcasts if you have the option to rate and review and subscribe on whatever service you provide or you get your podcasts from please do so it was a good ruder you can find it on social media we've got a facebook group in a page so like the page and join the group lots of great discussion happens there we have a twitter think gin sideways podcast nope it's just thinking sideways luxury roof yep draw believes robbery for broadcast and then we also have a assad brought it which they're episode discussions and things like that happen there in that thinking sideways if you have suggestions like this one or anything you know general accolades whatever we read and respond to every single one of our emails take a couple of days you can drop was an email at thinking sideways podcast gmailcom and i think that takes care of all of the house keeping radu so all of that having been said we are going to get out of here and cry for the next like four days sore drug your drug oregon orkla report foolish warm overdue barbara voted for by guys are next week who.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:32 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"There are some i'm sure psychologist could get like really deep into this but i don't i i agree i think it that there is some forensic knowledge there but maybe he was a a teacher or group ramirez russell border rivers the guys like give mortician that have a connection to police departments they would know that they would glean that kind of information from if nothing else they're encounters i mean there's a whole that's why i i always feel let down by this because everybody says he must be involved in the school system when there is this whole other realms of ways that he could have been connected and known the things that he comes to of no i think people think school system because that allows for the time for the meticulous planning i mean he he stalked these families for at least weeks at a time before he carried out the attacks he learned their their schedules he knew when they were there and when they weren't there and timed and planned his attacks so meticulously so that they would just be perfect i mean he was obviously watching the house he's obviously watching shannon's house because the parents went to sleep and then john immediately was like i can't go to sleep and state up for four and a half more hours obviously one and a half hour later he you know mr cruel bus sin where he lauded sat and waited washed his house for the majority of the night i mean these are like insanely meticulously planned.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:57 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Seventy four year old former university lecturer and director of a construction design firm in the seventies he spent ten years in jail for for rapes and attacks at knifepoint on young women and girls and a source said that he has slides you as remember slides aura he is liedes of the girls that were abducted on his on a bad but the police didn't extensive investigation they were unable to find it and in fact the the sun reached out to this person because they have touting warned yeah the tabloid they have the name they they again i mean i think that it's fair to not released the names of these people because you daughter witchhunt happen but they reached out to this person and he said oh yeah i know i know they think i did it i didn't but i know that i'm their prime suspect others released what other guy who also said all your you know there were three i'll let me for years the our they weren't clever about it at all yeah yup so he's the strongest suspect and that is literally all we know about him congratulations yup valley first moon now uh and then the final suspect iran's is iran's this is not an episode about iran's boeing tell people who don't know who that is is the east area rapist or original nights stocker bureau that's which views again may not be the same person true but as a result he agree emails about that statement it another episode for another time but we will meet eventually sometime do but i saw this speculation on a couple of forums and i thought it was kind of interesting and compelling it's i don't think it actually is by there's some speculation that iran's traveled to australia after his prolific attacks in california and the '70s his last official attack in california was eighty six and then the first.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:45 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Potentially defending a creeper zoidze but i'm gonna do it a little bit bigger defend this guy adjusted teeny bit from the partner is saying he started talking about this while we were roleplaying it is entirely possible that this guy had a thing for asian schoolgirls and this girl happen to be in the news so he started talking about her i figured at on is absolutely not an actual have brought a he may have started saying this stuff or you might have been seeing some other kirk name carbon yeah it is it is partners just like what we do that is not okay and you know she gets matchee spills a beer on him she runs away and that's the end of that nec can okay so big deal except an alternative at the us now i don't think i mean i don't think that john is i think the police did their due diligence that i think overall john is not a suspect police on the top seven is any no oh okay so i thought john was in the top seven not seeing the other 32 he's in the other thirty taeok he's not in the seven where they're like get this person amelio carry okay he just for the once it's widely reported on got it could really gave a name to him i guess i don't know the next suspect we're going to talk about is working to calm prime aka the lecturer a cane noname mcgee he is the primary other left he is he is mr perry pants he is the prime suspect for this case low again the key there is no evidence like there's no evidence at all but the lecturer is the.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:33 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"But for this guy i don't think it's an adult woman dressing up like a schoolgirl and letting him play act to do whatever he wants all we're really know what really disturbs me is that he met a woman who was down with his kink who had a daughter and said here is moorish mortgage board and suddenly was off of the market is happening but i i mean kids age pretty quick so his thing was an eleven year i mean you tend to thirteen range pre puberty listen we've talked about guys who started assaulting young girls at the age of five and didn't stop until they were thirty yeah that's true i mean there there are stories like that so it does it mean the just because she was no longer twelve she was no longer useful in that manner sharks the nicest itin i mean let's just hop in okha were only going to talk about three suspects and none of them are named don't as a good though i call them something but yeah we have we have our own names for them by one of them is just called john a cage on down and i'm just gonna because it's a good transition into this john was brought to the tension of the police because he had a a partner a consenting a 30yearold moslem partner i girlfriend sexual partner not quite sure witch that said that sean started talking about carmen during sex.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:55 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"There are some men out there who don't and especially under the race circumstances that are extra exciting sometimes men don't have that period of time in the euro booker to overturn the goes up and they maybe he was obviously this was this goes booed birdie on being it wouldn't even more the narrow maybe he was taking fiber because he was so loud advisory ijaz to re in yeah i'm sure in the yeah i was in the world though the big nineties became but there was other six there are other things that can have the same effect but yeah okay so then my my last question here is so they they say that he couldn't have stopped on his own one eight i well they say he had is you know he was scared away with that doesn't match up with behavior that we've talked about in the past and i mean i have a theory as to why carmen was the last one and it's probably the most disturbing of vares out there while i guess at my hearing about like is the last one is that his murder of carmen in conjunction with the extensive nature of the investigation in which he may have even been interviewed by the police just scared him off entirely that would worsen the room he just became a you know like he said his freedom was more important than anything and it just became too risky for him to continue to do this so he found it by a reviewing the tapes or slides or pictures and you know being able to carry out role plays with consenting partners of vats were that's probably the most disturbing part the the most serving idea that i've come to the uae this guy stop is she met some body and it i i was like well you know for every kink there's somebody who's happy to fulfill that kink.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:46 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"But one thing just to know is that mr cruel easy cereal offender welfare and we've talked about zero offenders before on this show and basically what that means is unlikely that he would have stopped these attacks unless he was forced by either death were moving or some kind of a car seriche and or conflict louis wallowed i whatever that my view i guess yeah got what he water was to get his rocks us so i don't the rush to accomplish that and they're over to just watch watching his video but there is also a significant amount of escalation that happens we arose even just over the course of even just the first three but really with the four there's a there's a fair amount of escalation and the investigator said that they thought the reason that he stop was because he got scared because he was one of the twenty seven thousand people that was interviewed which like if he lived in the area of course he was so here he in every other guy in the bar roy dahlia murder tiber interviewed avaaz mr ku mr cruel young so there are officially seven men on a list that is is being held by the it's reno distributed to all police a in this area that basically says if any attack similar to the mr cruel one happens these seven suspects should be arrested immediately or brought into custody immediately for questioning but there are apparently 32 sucks suspects that cannot officially be eliminated but they don't have any evidence to prove that any of them did at either further are good enough to just immediately go of arrest jackson in fact none of them beyond there's no suspect that is good enough to go out and arrest.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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02:08 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Up does that mean i have to is that means you have to you don't want to realize weakening made i had to read it what it is a nuts fight lives you gotta dear fbi voice okay in my best fbi voice this is going to be my bettman foist mr cruel was probably in steady employment possibly in a management job or selfemployed with freedom of movement it said those who knew him would not regard him as a monster he would probably be considered a good neighbour and might be involved in community projects he would have an obsessive compulsive character the type who would immediately wipe is hands of soiled it would have taken a great deal of interest in media coverage though he probably tried to disguise it he would likely go for unexplained drives are walks he would have expressed sexual fantasies or shown sexually dysfunctional behaviour his sexual arousal and gratification would probably be dependent on his partner playing specific roles such as dressing in a schoolgirl uniform use terms like bozo worry ward and missie win saying things to some of his victims aka kitty talk he could be mary living with a woman who goes away around school holidays when some of the attacks occurred or he could be a teacher himself he would be intelligent well organized he would seem genuinely interested in and dedicated to children he would have displayed may i hitler was pretty soon children yes unfortunately turbe lobster racial via he would have displayed behavioral changes around the time of the offenses and on aniversary or win publicity was renewed those changes would indicate such things as sleeping disorders reluctance is to go to work distract distraction or different eating and drinking habits he would disguise his dress with abnormally rigid behavior in fact mr fbi you're welcome one thing to know before we start talking about suspects were not gonna talk about twenty seven thousand suspects this could have been a really long episode of it already cannibus.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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02:14 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Series and suspects orders edged route thirty two thousand series here there there are actually yeah but the thing rian talk about i is that there was this task force called spectrum that included several fbi investigators as well as police and other highprofile investigators from realm world bitter you as a priori yesler that that came together to be a part of this task force basically do the morn of the most comprehensive investigations like that has ever taken place they interviewed literally twenty seven thousand not twenty seven hundred twenty seven thousand men in the area in conjunction with this case as suspects this was a lot like the naked murders yet where they just walked out a section of the city every managed drug in front of the cops and questioned jill tilley's exhausted and then they move onto the next one yes yes so from extensive interviews of the victims of the families just general kind of stuff they put together this really comprehensive profile of what the kind of person that mr cruel would have been or or maybe still is in his real life rugova should recall mr pruitt is to their defer to well the stripper newspapers fault should go to mr purvis apparent well they actually called him he lives by her he had seven or eight different hers they lose referred to by mr cruel is just the latest one that has to take our guest something rapist it was like the nor something rapists was one of the the the more common names until mr cruel really i think mr cruel is a great in for him i think ms moore because it's better that would a bagri so since i don't think we want to do their job well let's just talk about it out auxerre in our investor is it actually does pertain to a theory so who can one of you guys read this profile that they put together so it's not just an episode of me talking for like twelve poor guy or go to put on my fbi was interviewed at paper accces resort oil rochambeau under a special offer full poll phone.

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"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

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01:50 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"And that is that the family's house was not preserved as a crime scene in this instance a ton of people came through and you know basically were it was it was a manhunt it wasn't a crime scene so people carried away anything that might have been dna recurred award revolt just a me like which just by like walking over it or or not by physically picking i have a feeling that the fact that the the daughters called dad dad called the cops probably after calling somebody else he knew to go over to the house who then called somebody they knew so there's a whole swarm of non investigative tight show off rate and there's also probably people showing up yet to help take care of the girls because they've just hasn't levers matic happened to them and overall you know there could have been clues left though given the mr cruel ml light i doubt it that there were any kind of clues jeff it's him in this instance than probably would have mattered and karremans mother has a theory about why carmen was killed when the other girls were not and it is that by all accounts carmen was very stubborn to lawyer defiant is a really good word and mr cruel had actually told one of his other victims that his freedom was more important than her life and a karremans mother thinks that it's very likely that carmen fought back and may have pulled the mask off warm otherwise been able to identify him so he can order and dodgers bought angered him enough yet arabia israel actually record verses wars observers through that she was a absolutely remarkable what are you doing smithers vera and actually there's a great little segue cas were done talking about the victims and now we're going to talk about.

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01:38 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"And then mr cruel had her change her clothes again standing on that she and then took all the closed way that he would have may be had evidence from his house on it room and then they walked for about three more minutes and he i guess he looked around like he was going to stop and then he said no this location isn't good for some reason and then they walked for another three or four minutes and then he's that okay now count one hundred he took her blindfold off said count one hundred and then we go called the police she had been again left about three miles away from her house it was two am on the morning of her fourteen th birthday heard of rumours she had been held bought by mr cruel for exactly fifty hours she knocked on the door of a man like a there were in kind of a neighborhood where she was dropped so she walked up to a door and knocked and a man answered it and she said can i call my dad and obviously perfect her been everywhere and he was like a yes of course you can and they called the police and then six days later nicholas family left australia forever marsha nikola and fiona described mr cruel to have a beer belly which is different from the other descriptions the other descriptions had him very slim are gonna tell you the bureau's coban pretty easily yeah and it had been a year so since the last attack and zoo fruther bureau through true true story and uh he was but you again described as having the gruff uneducated voice.

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02:04 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"He said he was going to leave rather we through barbara dramatically were in the states are gathering wrote for years aggression wanted it i'll go to the grocery worker yeah heat so he said he was leaving so he released her to the bed with some sort of harnessed around her neck released her lashed i heard leash i've heard i've heard it described as a very crude hardest of some kind i mean the think of a dog collar but something that some weirdo j makes in his basement on his own at alive office while although granted nut nobody ever saw it right they just felt it right but i mean if some guy is trying to figure out how to attach fabric teary or to battle to then be able to lockett chain it like that would be wise described his crew to felt probably that would probably was not very comfortable he left the radio on he was gone to that same channel and now here it again is one of those instances where you think cut these girls are just especially sharon like this is incredible she's gutsy she is really got the she while he's gone manages to lift her blindfolds of so she can see the inside of the room so she is actually able to describe for the police like in great detail everything about the room including most disturbingly a wooden tripod with a camera set up that was filming the bed she was leash to or was set up to film it wasn't filming law ours usair don't know that this was earlier video camera might have just been still care i think it was a video camera worker i i mean this is the time where you could tell very distinctly between a video camera and a i i am not in disagreement of that but i i've never seen it explicitly said what kind of cameras she saw that's why i say that okay that's fair yasser is probably a good thing if you're if you've film goes up because if they ever to catch up with them published does the nato anakara talk about great widow walker's as uproar longterm via therelw mr cruel returned.

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01:45 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Four fifty a m he says his show weird it'll put you right to sleep better weird thing to do i mean i guess this is before the internet so dnc at around on facebook or whatever is in an offshoot i wouldn't think to just sit up in the middle of the night and put together a puzzle i would cause it's boring that's not a puzzle you might grossly he i mean those are so boesel's can be of people are in a politician light from yeah germ burger ochre anyway almost exactly thirty minutes later so at five thirty for twenty of twenty mr cruel came bursting in to john and julie's bedroom he just through the light on and brandished a gun he was still wearing that same navy blue mask julie screamed but mr cruel said that he was going to shoot john if she didn't stop so she stopped because she loves her husband he then had them just like the last couple lie on their stomachs and bound arrests this time he didn't put them in handcuffs i he just immediately hogtied them wicked are not hogtying because there's no there was no connection between arms and legs but he found their arms lawyer with copper electrical wire with the same unique not again he claim to be a thief gay then entered the girls room sharon a was the oldest of the four girls she was ten she was taken from her bed and i heard a i read her account and she said she was awoken by her mom scream but just kind of laid in her bed and then she heard mr cruel come into her room and she pretended to be asleep still which smart writer him and he laughed and she hurt him walk around the house and then come back and say sharon get up so we knew her name gu.

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02:14 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"The other really interesting thing here is that despite the mask the family was able to give kind of a description they described the man as about five eight two five eleven rustu's hurt about steve tight young slim build with brownishgrey ish whitish hair not like me and bushy grey eybrows law totally sure how that was the i guess it me was seeking through the the mass old kind of well knows i holes i that's why that drawing if so scary is because he'd actually tailored it so the i holes were literally just there were much smaller they were labeling navy quarter sized holes that he had sewn together with white there it was a a navy blue mask that he used white material on and then he'd actually stone was centered yup sorry white thread on and then so you can see the stitch marks the kind of looks like a core aligned all i'm also and then he'd actually sown basically like netting or something behind the eyes and the mouth so they would further protect him from leaving any kind of his voice fighter is rask jaba sway scarier the mouth hull was also just a quarter so i mean it was just threequartersize holes in this mask it was it's super super creepy super creepy so but i would assume that maybe there was some hair sticking out through his maso were which could have actually work girl pushed in there is another red hair he could have it's true absolutely could have a despite the the greyishwhite a hair and bushy grey eybrows they said that they thought that mr cruel was actually in his mid20 he apparently had mustysmelling breath he did eat lamb biscuits milk and orange juice well he had musty rough before the where he might have had leyla rebel answered orgy sarah job and then he apparently also had a deep gruffvoiced that sounded on educated and they said he had no accent which of course means he had an australian accent coerce he had it accent appropriate for the area with almost nothing to go on this case went cold quickly in it seemed to have been a one one time attack.

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01:31 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"The alternative years wherever you go you would disagree about in utah so maybe that's what he was hitting the button yet so it didn't connect and then mr cruel went to check all of the other rooms in the house and then he came back and actually place to call this time which apparently connected during this crossing corn toward connected connected yeah during this call he called someone a bozo and threatened the person on the other line telling them that they'd have to move their own kids or something of that nature after he hung up he closed the wardrobe door and locked the parents in then he turned on a radio in the master bedroom very very loudly to a station that has identified and then took the girl into the bathroom because this is where the not stuff begins yes it actually turned out that this was his real motive he was not there to be a thief though he did take a few items from house but his real motive was to rape and assault the eleven year old girl who voted for us he did this over the course of two hours he carried out his attack on the girl all kind of over this course of two two hours mostly in the bathroom but also in the lounge room key took breaks to rummage through the family's belongings he took a break to eat some cold lam biscuits milk and orange juice he made the girl floss and brush her teeth and bathe twice once after the first assault and then once right before he left the house.

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01:44 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Adopted abducted and raped three girls and possibly killed a fourth he left literally no forensic evidence behind and was incredibly meticulous and the police have identified seven suspects that they have literally no reason to confirm or to rule out gothic this was occurs of this route cut a rowdy up the usual suspects well we'll talk about this when we get to it but they interviewed a lotta people over the thousands yeah the police actually think that mr cruel is linked to another dozen or so attacks on children in the area and all of these attacks are from the northern suburbs of mel boren melbourne agha writer and get angry bells devon young come on it melbourne dover yes so we're gonna just dive right in and talk about this and i'll i'm going to just go ahead and say ninety percent of the reading you're going to do about this stuff online is about like four paragraphs long it's like a paragraph per victim victim thank you but we have more than that and actually frankly i thought this was going to be a breathe of a topic for me i already my research that's all i could find and then i found this one kind of treasure trove in that the police in australia have very recently within a who gives last year even released all of their documents to certain media outlets in australia servers will run on this many years yarmuk threedecade yeah so we have a lot of details about these and we are going to go into it so again smell ears or know whatever let's go chronologically dirt too good way to go yet.

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02:12 min | 4 years ago

"mr cruel" Discussed on Thinking Sideways Podcast

"Thinking sideways fears and i don't know stories of things we should be the answer to kick is welcome to another episode of thinking sideways the podcast do that by couched that podcast i am devon joined this week by drew end steve and today we're gonna talk about a mystery that i've dubbed the most disturbing drawing that is it took me a while the figure out that that was a droid yeah i thought it was weird art project no it's a drawing though that downer yeah so this actually was a suggestion by j w in july of two thousand for her tune we go through years ago longterm hold early j w still lessons and south riverview or lease shadow now and actually we're gonna talk about the mystery of mr cruel now as cruel as in crew will crew wizard nasty fair warning as the name implies this case involves some really horrible crimes against young girls actual girls ya and we are going to be going into detail so this is our standards small ears warning to do about it here we should have assam effect for that or something or i'll i'll tell you read on the aci kennedy liked that earthquake noise bush standard go to is always a cap neil show want the sounded like a bunch of kids in terror the stampeding noise as a extra room perfect does it like the charlie brown stampede when they all runthrough is after swing so you're right on that at a general overview of this case is mr cruel a still one hundred percent unknown officially identified officially one hundred percent unidentified man and general owner of one of the absolutely most terrifying police sketches of all times ever.

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