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"mr manson" Discussed on American History Tellers
"Thought the commission was making mistake but apart from threatening to write a minority report attacking his friends views. There was little. He could do the gulf widen between the two as pinto progress in his career by eighteen. Ninety eight pinch show had been named the head of the division of forestry under the department of agriculture here pinch would build a close relationship with theodore roosevelt. The president affectionately nicknamed pinto gif and later. Historians would refer to him as the crown prince of teddy roosevelt tennis court cabinet. They're upbringings and love of nature led to a close relationship built on shared ideals for both men those ideals included pudding nature and service of human needs or conservation through use can show wanted to use scientific methods to maximize efficiency and productivity. He liked to refer to forestry as tree farming explaining the purpose of forestry is to make the forest produce the largest possible amount of whatever crop or service will be the most useful and keep on producing it for generation after generation of men entries. A well handled farm gets more and more productive as the years pass so does a well handled forest. His friend moore. Meanwhile had come to believe that forestry and wilderness preservation were incompatible in nineteen o five the division of forestry was renamed the united states forestry service and pinch oh became the head of it all but he wanted control of the national parks as well. He had even proposed his idea to congress in nineteen. Oh four there was talk about creating a national park service but can show strongly oppose the suggestion in his view. A national park service was no more needed than to take on a cat as he would write a few years later. The first principle of conservation is development conservation proposes to secure a continuous and abundant supply of the necessaries of life which means a reasonable cost of living and business stability. It was a view that was strain his relationship with john. Muir to the breaking point by nineteen o five. The city of san francisco had made multiple failed attempts to gain approval to damn hetchy. Moore's opposition had turned the project into a political minefield and secretary of the interior ethan hitchcock sued steadfast against the dam but after the earthquake in nineteen oh six pin show recognized the administration now had precisely the sort of momentum needed to get the project back on track and push hitchcock out in november nineteen o six seven months after the san francisco earthquake martin manson now city engineer received another letter from pinch. Oh this one. Read my dear mr manson. I cannot of course attempt to forecast the action of the new secretary of interior on the san francisco watershed question but my advice to you is to assume that his attitude will be favorable and to make the necessary preparations to set the case before him. If the possibility of supply from the sierras is still open. You should i think by all means go ahead with the idea of getting it. The new secretary of the interior that pinch show was referring to was james garfield the other man sitting quietly in the room while manson and pinch discussed the damn a year prior garfield.
"mr manson" Discussed on American History Tellers
"The door opens and two minute. Mr manson nice to see you again. Glad you could make good to see you again mr pinch. Oh please call me gifts. This other gentleman is james. R garfield director of the bureau of corporations at the department of commerce and labor and the son of our late president. I may add. He shares our interest in the hetch. Hetchy project nice to meet you. Mr garfield garfield greece you and sit on a couch along. The wall control moves back behind his desk. So mr manson. What can you tell me about this. Damn as i said the other night our intention is to build a reservoir in the valley of hetch hetchy you see the water supply. There is incredibly pure. We could build water reserves for our entire city by simply constructing this one reservoir but we can't move forward without approval. Have you reached out to ethan hitchcock. He's the secretary of the interior. Yes the previous mayor. Mr phelan as applied to mr hitchcock several times. But he's denied us denied on what grounds he feels that because yosemite national park. There shouldn't be a damn leans back in his chair and strokes his chin thoughtfully. Well now. that's an interesting argument. There are plenty of people who would agree with him. John muir for one yes john. Muir has made his feelings on the matter known to mayor phelan. He thinks there are other places that could do just as well. Isn't that it have. You looked into some of these other locations we have sir but none are so pure or so practical has hetch hetchy. We could buy land cheaply there since it's by the government so it's mainly financial consideration. Well no not exclusively in fact. I've got a letter from your right here. That says the scheme for securing these water rights is as full of graft as any of the lumber company's plans to obtain big blocks of the best timberland. Is that true. Mr manson your throne. You had hoped this would be a friendlier meeting but you gather your thoughts and respond not to my knowledge sir. I'm an engineer. I leave the politicking to other people and yet here. You are in my office in washington making your appeal. You're starting to feel a bit warm. You stand mr pinto. I'm sorry if i've inconvenienced to you. I think i'd better go. But can show has a twinkle in his eye. Sit down. Mr manson. John muir and i are old friends. I happen to disagree with him on this matter. You feel your blood pressure. Drop abandoning sit back down. But if you're going to pursue this plan you better be prepared for one hell of a fight. Now you say the plan for the dam are solid quite solid sir. Then i suggest you proceed. But we've tried sir secretary. Hitchcock won't give his approval pinto looks meaningfully at garfield. Hunan's you leave that to me. You see james. And i serve as informal advisers to the president. We have zere and he's always happy to hear our input. Isn't that right. James garfield nods again hitchcock has been bucking the president since we first got into office if he keeps at him he won't be in his job long now. I think president roosevelt would be very interested in your plans for hetchy. Show did just what he said he would. He introduce manson to president roosevelt and permitted the engineer to lay out the plans for the reservoir firsthand. Roosevelt was impressed. Manson left e. c. Believing that if the city were to push again to dam hetch hetchy. This time the federal government would approve but city politics were working against him. Manson was no longer part of the administration. A new party was in power. And after james phelan left office his successor mayor. Handsome jeans schmitz. Let the plans for the water. Reservoir fall to the wayside until the great disaster on april eighteen. Nineteen o six. The earthquake changed everything three hundred water. Mains were damaged during the shaking leaving water gushing out of broken cast iron pipes while firehoses went dry. The public blame the spring valley water company for the failure of infrastructure advocates. For the damn saw the perfect moment to pounce only a steady supply of freshwater could avoid another similar disaster argued. San francisco was built on a bay. But saltwater couldn't be used to fight fires and emergency since it corrodes machinery perhaps. If the dan had been built before the disaster it's backers argued the city would have had the water reserves in needed. In truth it was water distribution pipes hydrants and spigots not the water supply that had caused the devastation but the supporters of the damn were persuasive and they use the crisis to galvanize public support. Still the project could not move forward without an official go ahead from the federal government ethan. Hitchcock who previously denied plans for the dam was still secretary of the interior and appeared to have no change of opinion on the matter then. Six weeks after the earthquake engineer martin manson received a letter. It was from pinch. Oh the note read. I hope sincerely that. In the regeneration of san francisco it's people will be able to make provision for water supply from the yosemite national park which will probably be equal to any in the world. I will stand ready to render any assistance which lies in my power. It was an intriguing letter but it still wasn't an official approval. The hetch hetchy leaders were grateful for the show of support but with hitchcock still position. As gatekeeper the appeared there was little chance of getting the project to move forward. What back in washington. The political machine was working against hitchcock within the white house. It was clear that the interior secretary and the president did not see eye to eye. Chief.
"mr manson" Discussed on Frankenculture Presents
"Wow okay. I that wasn't prepared for that. One yep so that's a look not so great for mr manson We yeah so. I would be pretty. Sad about horatio sanz. I don't think so. I mean i hope none. I'm assuming random after i mean it's not even like as you've been in anything lately but now. Oh that's why that sugar and snow weird. He does not have so ninety landed whose name she might have like hooked up with him and then just decided to use it yeah. That's really judgmental and harsh. This is just a we know for a fact of lying bitch. Nellie is perfect. We i this for a fact. No i'm just saying it's very possible that people can get taken advantage of in any situation whether they're celebrity whether they're normal person vice versa. Ducks welcome to welcome to world. Welcome to the living. It's i mean that's one angle with like that's the the opposite of the thing about being a politician is like yes. You probably do want to be like having another person in a room at all times kind of a thing. Weird fucking weird to think about. But it's like you have no idea unless you always like on video camera. It's like can you imagine like doctors and stuff like okay like like if you go to the obgyn as a woman. Doctor is a guy like not. I'm a little side tangent. I watched a note. Soaping bosses bad bosses or a horrible bosses. Horrible bosses so watch that jennifer aniston is sexual predator. Land charlie will. What's his real name of the movie. I it's always sunny in philadelphia and she's always. Have you not seen that movie before now. I don't remember all my god. I remember when i first saw that movie. I was working at a job that i did not like. My boss was horrible. And i was like. This movie is so accurate like this movie is. We do sometimes wish our bought just disappear forever. Yes she's sexually harassing him and he's like no my wife would never he's like she's threatening to tell his wife in any yeah if they don't hook up there's like oh by the way pulls out her phone with these pictures of doing under when he was on her and she just like like i forget she didn't like bra lingerie and she's like i'm gonna show these to your i what i was passed out for these remember when they're explaining their situations like why their bosses are so horrible and they're like yours just sounds not so bad what and then. What is it jason's today. Because i want to go hook up with her or does hook up with her. Oh my god. She's just eating all like hot dog shaped items. What.
"mr manson" Discussed on Wash FM 97.1
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"mr manson" Discussed on X96
"G. 15 year old Indian kid billed as a perfect master. Who claimed millions of followers around the world It's done most of the rest of Mr Davis's career found him trying to blend the political radicalism of his twenties with an entrepreneurial sort of Put pastiche of progressive or new age agendas, so it became kind of a new age. Sort of blissed out character in his later life. Um Marilyn Manson. Mm hmm. Uh, well, they have a photographer is alleged that Marilyn Manson forced females to strip Assed part of a warp sex game with him. Erika von Stein alleges that Mr Manson real name Brian. He Warner also Applied fans with alcohol before ordering them to take off their clothes. Speaking to the mirror. Miss von Stein said she was picked from a crowd of fans by Manson's minders and escorted to his tour bus. She then allegedly hit in the back of a group as the musician pointed at a group of women and instructed them to take off their tops. She? She claims he wanted to see who had the best. Yes, we've had him take off all their clothes, but a garbage person. This is according to her. Everyone was a bit surprised. He made it feel normal like it was something fun to do. Garbage person. Go away. Let's see the Coronavirus. Deaths here in Utah reported on Sunday. Less than 1000. Was good day for the reports. It was. Let's see 903 is the numbers I recall 903 reported cases, new infections and only three deaths. Reported on Sunday. Well. Joe Biden, President Biden I saw A little bit of his Interview. I saw I think I saw all of it would know Norah O'Donnell right before the Super Bowl and You know, it's like having your It's like having a really nice grandpa. For your own good. It feels good, doesn't it? The first weeks of the Biden administration have been Huge con pressed. I mean, it's been kind of boring. I want more great, please. I've been a striking contrast to the chaos and turmoil. Of the Trump administration, bringing a sense of normality back to the White House and to government. Uh, President Grandpa. Along with very Vice President Harris. They begin each day receiving the president's daily brief like you're supposed to Usually before 10 A.m.. His administration has revived the White House daily briefings every single week day. He's also putting Kamila Harris up front at a lot of things. She goes and does the swearing the ends and the ceremonial things and He wants her to be upfront as much as possible. Majority of Americans polled say that they think Donald Trump should be convicted. And barred from holding federal office in the impeachment trial that's coming up. Island cold, But I would say that where I pulled, it's probably not gonna happen because, like the four members of Utah's congressional delegation, Utah's for members of the House They voted against stripping committee assignments from representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. Because of her support of Q and on, But that's okay with Burgess. That's okay with Chris Stewart and what's his name down in Utah County, Curtis And the new guy, Blakemore. I think his name is from They're all okay with it fairly and they're all okay. And you know, there's their argument. Their argument is well, it should be the Republicans that sent your Republicans and I agree with that, but they didn't They were fine with it so they could have voted to strip her of No, That's what I'm saying that if you ask all of those Congress people why they why they didn't. They said that shouldn't be a Democratic controlled Congress that strips her. It should have been our party that stripped her, but they didn't so The Democrats had to do something. Yes, well. She should just be kicked out of Congress. Yes, I mean, that's that's the bottom line. She shouldn't be there at all. She lets see. When Michael Flynn back in the news with prominently he's gone from, you know, being could well. Confessing toe lying to the federal government, the FBI about meetings with Russians before the election. Lying about all of that kind of stuff. This is a man who was a respected general at one time you recall at one time? Yes, and he became he went into the White House and Anyway. He was He confessed to lying, and he was charged, but Donald Trump pardoned him, and now he's out front again. Being his vocal is possible, pushing. The stolen election lie and any other Cuban on theory that comes up. He's for it. He's Oh, he's their eminence him and his son. And a California man. Lost his wallet. And and Arctic up. Has had the wallet returned after 53 years. All Grisham. Of San Diego, California, arrived in Antarctica in October of 1967 as a meteorologist for the United States Navy At some point during the 13 month assignment in Antarctica. He lost his wallet and eventually he, of course, forgot about it until last week. I was just blown away, Mr Gresham said after he received the wallet by mail on Saturday. There was a long syriza people involved who tracked me down and ran me to ground and returned the wallet. According to the newspaper. Mr Grisham's wallet had plenty of Mementos from his time on and article, but but damn it, the money was missing. They left his I D. But they something? No. Um, so anyway, there you go. That's it. All right. Sports weather traffic. Well, we've talked a lot about the Super Bowl this morning. We haven't talked about the 17th annual Puppy Bowl. It ended in dramatic fashion on Sunday with a come from behind win by team rough. Trailing by three points with under a minute left team. Ruff's big boss, Polly He's a Dutch shepherd mix sprinted for a touchdown is the clock ran out Team rough to Pete defeated team fluff in a final score of 73 69 to win Puppy Bowl. 17 Team ropes. Captain got the chewy lumbar key trophy, but really, we all one really, I didn't see any of it. I don't know how you could not be riveted to that. I usually jump back and forth. But for some reason, my TV box was not agreeing with me. So they don't do the longer rabel anymore. Same. No, no, sadly know that because I I thought it was really cool to see dogs in lingerie. He is pretty interesting. And everybody's talking about Tom Brady having one more Super Bowls. And is he the greatest ever and I liked this. Take on it, Which is well, Joey chest, not 8. 74 hot dogs in 10 minutes. Is he the greatest athlete? Yeah, That's a lot of team sport. It's not a team sport. That's that's that's the That's the only because otherwise it's Serena Williams. But that Z team so after Whether is dumb. I don't like it. I don't like.
Marilyn Manson allegedly "forced female fans to strip" after inviting them on his tour bus
"Marilyn Manson. Mm hmm. Uh, well, they have a photographer is alleged that Marilyn Manson forced females to strip Assed part of a warp sex game with him. Erika von Stein alleges that Mr Manson real name Brian. He Warner also Applied fans with alcohol before ordering them to take off their clothes. Speaking to the mirror. Miss von Stein said she was picked from a crowd of fans by Manson's minders and escorted to his tour bus. She then allegedly hit in the back of a group as the musician pointed at a group of women and instructed them to take off their tops. She? She claims he wanted to see who had the best. Yes, we've had him take off all their clothes, but a garbage person. This is according to her. Everyone was a bit surprised. He made it feel normal like it was something fun to do. Garbage person. Go
"mr manson" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"The fact they've been repeatedly dinging, Bobby. Balls away. They're saying Will you have this incident with a baseball bat? Well, the thing is, he was the victim off the incident with a baseball bat. So you know, completely turning things out. The factual inaccuracies repeat themselves, year after year from here into hearing so very, very, very difficult. Now when they talk about rehabilitation programs were really hitting the nail on it because the issue is the California prisons don't really have rehabilitative programs. Not anymore. The president has more of them to San Quentin. But that's because it's closer to the San Francisco Bay area when people like me and my friends come in and teach all kinds of courses, But in prisons that are most remote, remote, they don't really have that option. So the board and this is one of the shocker. Things that I found out is that the board regularly recommends requires. I should say that people attend programs that don't exist. Yeah. Programs that don't exist or programs that you can't even attend. So you would get deep, for example, for not attending programs when you're in solitary confinement for your own protection. Now, for example, that will be totally against a good example here. So he was became basically almost immediately. An enemy of the Aryan Brotherhood, Right? A white guy who doesn't want to, you know Bond with white supremacist in prison. So so he became their greatest enemy and was basically in solitary for protection from them. Nonetheless, he gets dink for not attending programming, even though he couldn't actually physically live. Leave his cell to, uh, to attend. Now the what type of programming that they do. Sort of, You know, very strongly require everybody to Dio is drug programming 12 steps, And that's because 12 steps is cheap. 12 Steps is available in all prisons because they don't need professionals for that. People do it for themselves, so they require it of everyone. And whatever somebody comes up with a slightly different type off of rehabilitative program. They're very suspicious. So text wants One, for example, became a born again Christian shortly after coming to prison. He starts a prison ministry there constantly suspicious off his efforts of the prison ministry there saying, Well, you know you're just doing this because you want to continue manipulating people. They do the same thing to this man. Who's Davis? So Bruce Davis is actually no. A doctor of divinity. He he became a born again Christian fairly early on in prison. Very, very strong believer and they'll be telling him of the hearing all you're just you're still a cold follower. You've just you know, you substituted Manson for Jesus. Now, as you can imagine, for someone who's a very devout Christian. This is incredibly offensive, so he starts arguing with them. Which, of course, doesn't bode well. For his release, and he's on Ly recommend for release in 2012 but the government reverses every time. Now, but slowly comes into prison as already an accomplished artist and musician, and they require that he and his kind of occasional programs and he keeps telling them over already have a profession. They said. We're not seeing you participating in programs and he says, Well, I've created an electronic recording studio in prison. I basically put together the prison band, so I'm actually putting together rehabilitative programs for other people. Right, because I don't really need a GT and they dig in for being arrogant. So this kind of gives you a sense of how difficult it is to actually satisfied He's constantly moving goalposts. The only love that doesn't really play the game is Nansen himself because he knows as opposed to everybody else, that they're never letting him out. So throughout the hearings, he's you know, laughing and cursing at them and, you know, jumping on the table and doing whatever he wants, and in the last three years, he doesn't even bother to show up. And they're so flummoxed by the fact that he's not there that they talked to the empty table as if he's sitting there so you'll be reading the record and it will say, Mr Manson. We're speaking to you through the record, right, so they run the whole hearing as if he's there. Just to kind of like, show you that you continue to manipulate people, even if you're not there and well into his death. Ah, couple of years ago, Law professor had our average room discussing California's parole system. Her book yesterday's Monsters. So a little bit about the future so I can talk more about letters of support letters of opposition. Maybe we can do that in the Q and A. But what's most important for me to talk about now? Is this picture? The woman in the picture is Susan Afghans, and what you're seeing is for 2009 hearing At that point, Susan Afghans was already 60. She had an inoperable brain tumor. She's being wheeled into the room on a gurney. She's non responsive. She can't hear them. She can't see the she sleeps for more of her hearing, and she's represented by the guy on the left with a mustache. That's James White House. Her husband who's also an attorney. Represented her at the hearings. And what happens if he's at this hearing, which I chapter six of my book is you sort of a blow by blow off. The whole thing is really, really heartbreaking because they're just completely ignoring the fact that this woman is lying there on a gurney. They're saying the reading from the texts are saying who the A D A is telling us that you need a hearing aid and James White houses like you don't need to give her a hearing aid. He can't hear you anyway, right? They'll be looking at a record and saying, Well, you know, five years ago, she was low risk, but she wasn't super low risk and look, what's she going to do like She's going to die in a few months? I just wanted to die at home. And they tell him what do you have enough money to make sure that she has, you know, Hospice charity is like, you know, I'm going to take your offer. And then they walking for that. They say Oh, good for you that you have money. You know, I wish I had money to take care of my relatives. Right and and on top of everything Deborah take gets up at the hearing points at her and says she is still a danger to society because there are still people that look up to the Manson family. And they write a decision where they don't let this woman out of prison to live the last few months of her life with her husband, right, completely clean disciplinary record for many, many years, Born again, Christian since 1977 right? The only thing she got does she got dinged for in previous hearings was she was too zealous in advocating ministering for you know, for for Jesus at the prison, too. Well, you know, to be fair, literally captive audience..
"mr manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"Comeback where you at all I mean it was less than a month. We I mean it was okay the next day. It's the holidays it was. In your years. There's a lot of reflecting its again the tough thing. We never had a shortage of love. There was no like absence of like desire. There is no absence of devotion. It was trying to accept this shitty truth that maybe I'm not the best person for you right now. It both assets like my add to deal with that. He had to deal with that, so we're both trying to do the right thing for ourselves. Slash each other, which is very noble, but we're both human beings, and it's just gonNa suck to like again. You're detoxing from summit. That sounds terrible, but like you are you totally? Totally arm. You're detoxing from them and so yeah, we. We had a rollercoaster rollercoaster up until quarantine. Actually you know I, I feel terrible because I'm the one that's like volunteering ours story in public, but you know up until quarantine. We're back and forth about letting. Can't we work this out? Because we did care about each other so much and had made stupid mistakes in hurt each other in the interim, but right up until quarantine like literally into March two three months after we're talking about. Should we meet up? Shall we try to work it out? And I was really painful. It was super super painful. Again you gone through all for me as I've gone through three solid months of like literally if I'm not sleeping, I am toiling over this spray gumming process every emotion I'm looking at every pro and con I'm talking to my counselors, and it's not just women like my brothers, one of my best friends and he's always been such a great male. You know mind in. He's always looking out for me. Me But he does it. He doesn't call me. He doesn't tell me Oh shit like he keeps a very real. So you know just like kind of going through every aspect, even talking with my ex like just weird. Ping Pong pinball all over the place it was it was a lot, and did you see each other as well? We ran so again. The the K. drama continues in the snow. We met at Sundance, and Sundance happens in January, and so in a very dramatic fashion. We we saw each other at Sundance, and that was also like a moment of like. I really raking this. You really hard now is tough, so we did each other in January and then went back our respective states. Doing our thing I'm trying to get over. He's trying to get over it. It was it was rough. Man Okay, so was it quarantine like was that like the nail on the coffin that you're like moving forward, or was there a moment before that? That was like multiple. Like swear to God. It's like a rocket. That's trying to launch into space. I'm realizing more. That's one analogy because you have to break through the atmosphere, Um. There's a lot of resistance you. Break through that and then once you're in space kind of coasting. That's one analogy. The other part that I was calling. It was like you're like stuck in Tar, and you're just like knitting tar. You're trying to remove it from union, and it's just like it's residue. Right like suck. You or I don't. I like it because both of them have that heaviness to them, but same time there is that light at the end of the tunnel. You know that once tar off your body, or once you break through the atmosphere that there's no turning back. You just going right. Funny thing is even while we're together and talking about breaking up. We had even talked about. Should we break up and then see again in a year, we we. We talked about a lot of different scenarios I've done the. Region. We don't have time to do this on I. Guess another whole episode for another time, but you know what that is just so telling people who truly care about each other and want to work things out authentically, and you're not trying to give up because at some point I'm sure you go back to your respective homes, and you think if we just try hard enough. Yeah, we can make this work. Let's play out all the scenarios and you want to believe it like especially just like from what were showed in like movies at all this shed. It's like you want to believe that love is enough and right. Yeah, it's not so I will counter Mr. Manson I do think love. It does conquer all end it is enough, but the the recipient, or who that love is placed upon is the most important thing so as cliche as it sounds the main thing that I was learning through the break-up through like literally from the moment that we were coming to this conclusion and hit me. Hit me like we were saying immediately hit me instantaneously like Oche Shit. This is really happening. I have to figure out. My entire life is broke down united so that recognition of how much I was not loving to myself was really obvious, really quick, and that was very unsettling, very upsetting very scary to recognize that without him. The hell do I do now, and I don't like even saying that out loud because I'm very independent, very fragile in some ways very confident woman, but that I completely fell apart. I actually think that's when the breakup are the hardest in a way. It's there's so many different factors I'm not going to say. It's like only that like obviously just the depth of it and all that, but I remember like for my own instance. I felt like I lost myself a little in the relationship because I was so focused on this person, so that's when he was gone. It just felt like this major void was gone. Gone and I think I mean if you're in a relationship, there's GonNa be avoid right like someone's gone that you're used to being with all the time, so it's inevitable, but yeah I think if you've like feel like you've lost a bit of yourself along with it goes even deeper. Yeah, climbing out of that hole if you will are that meant for victims, but It's frigging hard, and and for somebody again it's also frame of mind right like if I you myself and I have my own identity as I`ma, strong, capable independent woman, but in this instance like you're getting a very very sobering reckoning while you're getting your ass handed to you of like. Oh, are you now like no, because I'm recognizing how much I had kind of thrown myself in some ways of you so beautiful. Beautiful right but I really like kind of all of me into this relationship, and that was something that I really needed to sit within that like to sit in the pain and recognize. There's something really not okay about. It was just the pain. Oh, he's gone. It was like I was like who the Hell Am I. That's a scary place to be versus just dismiss somebody in its though sad that this person's now. It was straight up panic in like fear. I! Don't also put it, but if anything, the silver linings which I'm very silver linings ten a person at the end of the day much optimist. It was the thing that I think I needed to reconcile some traumas like unresolved issues with family. I had an abusive boyfriend as a teenager that I hadn't fully healed from like things like that, they all
"mr manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"Comeback where you at all I mean it was less than a month. We I mean it was okay the next day. It's the holidays it was. In your years. There's a lot of reflecting its again the tough thing. We never had a shortage of love. There was no like absence of like desire. There is no absence of devotion. It was trying to accept this shitty truth that maybe I'm not the best person for you right now. It both assets like my add to deal with that. He had to deal with that, so we're both trying to do the right thing for ourselves. Slash each other, which is very noble, but we're both human beings, and it's just gonNa suck to like again. You're detoxing from summit. That sounds terrible, but like you are you totally? Totally arm. You're detoxing from them and so yeah, we. We had a rollercoaster rollercoaster up until quarantine. Actually you know I, I feel terrible because I'm the one that's like volunteering ours story in public, but you know up until quarantine. We're back and forth about letting. Can't we work this out? Because we did care about each other so much and had made stupid mistakes in hurt each other in the interim, but right up until quarantine like literally into March two three months after we're talking about. Should we meet up? Shall we try to work it out? And I was really painful. It was super super painful. Again you gone through all for me as I've gone through three solid months of like literally if I'm not sleeping, I am toiling over this spray gumming process every emotion I'm looking at every pro and con I'm talking to my counselors, and it's not just women like my brothers, one of my best friends and he's always been such a great male. You know mind in. He's always looking out for me. Me But he does it. He doesn't call me. He doesn't tell me Oh shit like he keeps a very real. So you know just like kind of going through every aspect, even talking with my ex like just weird. Ping Pong pinball all over the place it was it was a lot, and did you see each other as well? We ran so again. The the K. drama continues in the snow. We met at Sundance, and Sundance happens in January, and so in a very dramatic fashion. We we saw each other at Sundance, and that was also like a moment of like. I really raking this. You really hard now is tough, so we did each other in January and then went back our respective states. Doing our thing I'm trying to get over. He's trying to get over it. It was it was rough. Man Okay, so was it quarantine like was that like the nail on the coffin that you're like moving forward, or was there a moment before that? That was like multiple. Like swear to God. It's like a rocket. That's trying to launch into space. I'm realizing more. That's one analogy because you have to break through the atmosphere, Um. There's a lot of resistance you. Break through that and then once you're in space kind of coasting. That's one analogy. The other part that I was calling. It was like you're like stuck in Tar, and you're just like knitting tar. You're trying to remove it from union, and it's just like it's residue. Right like suck. You or I don't. I like it because both of them have that heaviness to them, but same time there is that light at the end of the tunnel. You know that once tar off your body, or once you break through the atmosphere that there's no turning back. You just going right. Funny thing is even while we're together and talking about breaking up. We had even talked about. Should we break up and then see again in a year, we we. We talked about a lot of different scenarios I've done the. Region. We don't have time to do this on I. Guess another whole episode for another time, but you know what that is just so telling people who truly care about each other and want to work things out authentically, and you're not trying to give up because at some point I'm sure you go back to your respective homes, and you think if we just try hard enough. Yeah, we can make this work. Let's play out all the scenarios and you want to believe it like especially just like from what were showed in like movies at all this shed. It's like you want to believe that love is enough and right. Yeah, it's not so I will counter Mr. Manson I do think love. It does conquer all end it is enough, but the the recipient, or who that love is placed upon is the most important thing so as cliche as it sounds the main thing that I was learning through the break-up through like literally from the moment that we were coming to this conclusion and hit me. Hit me like we were saying immediately hit me instantaneously like Oche Shit. This is really happening. I have to figure out. My entire life is broke down united so that recognition of how much I was not loving to myself was really obvious, really quick, and that was very unsettling, very upsetting very scary to recognize that without him. The hell do I do now, and I don't like even saying that out loud because I'm very independent, very fragile in some ways very confident woman, but that I completely fell apart. I actually think that's when the breakup are the hardest in a way. It's there's so many different factors I'm not going to say. It's like only that like obviously just the depth of it and all that, but I remember like for my own instance. I felt like I lost myself a little in the relationship because I was so focused on this person, so that's when he was gone. It just felt like this major void was gone. Gone and I think I mean if you're in a relationship, there's GonNa be avoid right like someone's gone that you're used to being with all the time, so it's inevitable, but yeah I think if you've like feel like you've lost a bit of yourself along with it goes even deeper. Yeah, climbing out of that hole if you will are that meant for victims, but It's frigging hard, and and for somebody again it's also frame of mind right like if I you myself and I have my own identity as I`ma, strong, capable independent woman, but in this instance like you're getting a very very sobering reckoning while you're getting your ass handed to you of like. Oh, are you now like no, because I'm recognizing how much I had kind of thrown myself in some ways of you so beautiful. Beautiful right but I really like kind of all of me into this relationship, and that was something that I really needed to sit within that like to sit in the pain and recognize. There's something really not okay about. It was just the pain. Oh, he's gone. It was like I was like who the Hell Am I. That's a scary place to be versus just dismiss somebody in its though sad that this person's now. It was straight up panic in like fear. I! Don't also put it, but if anything, the silver linings which I'm very silver linings ten a person at the end of the day much optimist. It was the thing that I think I needed to reconcile some traumas like unresolved issues with family. I had an abusive boyfriend as a teenager that I hadn't fully healed from like things like that, they.
"mr manson" Discussed on Dispatches from the Multiverse
"To Max. I'm an engineer and inventor and this thing here is the Bagel Tron two thousand bigotry. Two thousand is my invention. It opens up portal's dimensions of traveling through these dimensions or the last two years visiting all kinds of parallel earths where its earth but not earth may not are anyway. The point is it's been two whole years. I can hardly believe it two years that I've been traveling through these other dimensions recording US podcast for the benefit of humanity to advance the sciences. And you know what I'm trying to do good. I've kind of been questioning recently. Whether really complicating that goal met a Wilson recently who traveled from the future to tell me about how I ruined his life. So badly with my visit that I caused him to an island all of humanity. So that wasn't great. We avoided that I think. Exit Time Traveling Wilson. But it's got me thinking that there's definitely some things that I could have done better so I've gone back through some of the places that I've been over the last couple of years trying to find places where I can maybe fix things that might have messed up and right at the top of my list as this mansion. I visited his mansion a little over a year ago there was I think some sort of serial killer on the loose the version me in that dimension Max had been murdered by this guy and or or Gal I or I. I don't know I don't know what it was but it was apparently just killing people and all these people in this mansion have been dying and there's a whole group people there and okay. It's been over a year but is to be something that I can do. Maybe can at least go and check in with the police there. See if they've solved it. Give them any information that I have you know last time I just kinda ducked out of there and kind of shirked all the responsibility of what I had learned so I get the dial set. I'm going back there back to the mansion. I believe I never really got a name of like what it was called other than it was owned by a guy named Mr Mansion so Mr Mansions Mansion. I'm GonNa see if maybe I can straighten some things out. See if they caught the murderer and if not if I can maybe help them with this what would be pretty cold case at this point that about covers it. Let's go. Oh yeah okay. I can't forget about this. Hits the Freezer so should gosh. It's so cold in here now. Not The glow from the Porto. It is now pitch black in here. What happened to the light that was on in here? Last time was burn out. Where did I keep my flashlight? Which pocket it in Here it is what what? Oh no frozen Max is still in here man okay. He's not the only one we that. Oh No it's professor prunes fizzes banana and this Dodo. Miss Black Mr Tate. It looks like he was writing. Note it says sounds like something in murder would say. Well yeah I guess so okay. They're all dead boy. That does not feel great at all. All right. Well I I really feel like I need to go to the police now so we can out of this freezer. What are you doing here? You're you're you're you're live. Yeah okay why are you in the freezer? You may recall the last time you saw me. I opened up a portal and left to another dimension. Is that what he did? Remember that ring a Bell. Big Blue thing that would that was. Yeah that was a Porto back to my dimension portal and I just felt the need to come back here and try to apprehend killer will help the police with the information that I had because it kind of just left without sharing anything. I've really feel bad about that so I'm here to help. The police catch the murderer. Which at this point. I'm pretty much assuming as you. I'M GONNA have to Scrub the setup. Man Left breeze right there. It's one of the energy weapons that I picked up and one of the other dimensions. These she with that thing. I don't want to have to shoot you but I will. If you try to murder me like you did all the rest of those people in the freezer. I didn't murder them. I thought you murdered them. No why would I have murdered anyone? No I don't know why you're cable back judging. No I don't murder people. Listen okay last time around. Here's what happened. I popped into the freezer. There was dead Max. He was wearing the big foam hat. Said Butler on it. Big Cowboy hat is your hat. Why took a hat too? I could pretend to be him. Okay so no one would suspect that I wasn't from this dimension but obviously the murderer knew that I wasn't. You knew you yourself knew that you were not okay. Yes but I wasn't murderer again. Why would I come here and kill myself? No that wouldn't make any sense if you don't like yourself. I like myself just fine. Thank you do you like yourself enough to murder yourself. That makes no sense okay. We're not talking about me. We're talking about you and why they're back. They seem to be the only one not dead and in that freezer. Also you live here now. What's the deal? Yeah you're the chef. There's nobody even here to cook for anymore. So what are you even doing here to cook for myself right? Yeah but don't you have a home? Why don't you go home? I do have a home? This is my home now. What yeah see all over. Oh now that you mentioned that I do see you've written your name on what appears to be most of the walls. The counter the refrigerator stove the ceiling. Even yes part of my whole name. It and claim it. Yes I see well mission accomplished there I guess. Are you literally the only one left? Everyone that was here. Last time I was here seems to be in that freezer now dead. Okay all dead. So you're the only one left you've written your name all of this mansion rate and they're all dead yes so it seems pretty clear here who the murderer is right for saying? You're the murderer now. I'm not why would you hang out with dead bodies in the freezer? That's something I wasn't hanging out. I just got here I just I. I opened up my Puerto. Listen in my dimension where your freezer is. That's my garage. Lab is okay. It's just. That's where the portal opens up. I can't really control that. At least not yet wiser garage lab in Kitchen. It's not any look. Mit mentioned there is no mansion. Here all right. I live in a relatively modest house. It's got a garage. It's gotTA basement. It's got a second story and that's it. It's not a mansion like this with a conservatory and a bubble room. Jake Great Hall Yup and an enormous kitchen the pool. Now I don't have a Pool Jacuzzi. You're kind of roughing. Yeah Right which is probably why that gives you a motive to have killed all those people. You could get this house but you can't because name on it. Yeah I can see that very clearly the dozens and dozens of places that you've scrawled your name in to be Black Sharpie all over right everything. The best pen. Uh-huh but Again why would I come here and murder people? I have everything I need at my house back in my dimension. No I came here to right a wrong and that wrong is bringing you to justice as you are. Obviously the murderer killed all these people so you could claim this house. I didn't kill them. I have just been minding mile business cooking for them when they were still alive and getting them stuff like blueberries rights. Yeah the blueberries actually now that you mention it. It looked like their mouth was full of blueberries. Did you choke Mrs Banana? On a mouthful of blueberries. I didn't joke is banana either. Was murdered or was suicide. I'm leaning towards suicide. I think she just couldn't take it anymore. And she's wanted to end it all the best way that she knew possible. And that's just to drown our sorrows and blueberries that makes no sense also. How long ago did this happen? How long have you been living here alone? Last one was two weeks ago. Why were they still here? Surely everyone had homes to go to. Why would any of them been hanging out here? Especially if someone was murdering everyone in the building wanted time. I've kind of exciting. You know keeps your heart pumping you never know what's going to pop out a or looking around the corner. That is not the kind of excitement that I think I would be sticking around for anyway. You sure you didn't lock them all in and keep them from leaving. Somehow I don't think so. I mean I didn't intentionally do that. Uh-huh ah your stories not really holding up. You know what I'm getting my phone and see if I've signal here and no I doubt it doesn't you know there's do not have T. mobile here. T MOBILE ARE. They never mind okay. Where's the phone I'm calling the COPS The one phones over there. Okay the on the wall. Yep I see it you get a wind it up. Wait what minded I get a charge Just through seaver might children here really wanted to do it. Okay keep going. I should probably also tell you that it doesn't work okay. Of course it doesn't. I called the guy to come out here. And he got here and then he was murdered. How many burgers have there been in the years since I was here? That's a good question. He kind of lose track after like twelve. Why would you still be here if you weren't one murdering everyone? Aren't you afraid for your life at this point? Oh Yeah every morning every day. Then why are you still here? Let's life right. You could be out there just walking along and giant bird. Comes FLYING DOWN HITCHING HEAD? Bam debt or Coconut Rattles K. Right some of those things don't seem like they're quite as likely as being murdered in this mansion. Lino really I mean anything positive. If you want me to believe that you didn't murder these people the truth. What's your alibi murderer? It seems like you do not have one. I've been here the whole time right. I couldn't have done it if I did it. Would I run away? Wouldn't I hide the bodies in a better place than the kitchen freezer? How did the bodies get in the freezer? I put them there. Why why wouldn't you just go to? The police called the police. Why would you continue stacking bodies up in the freezer? Well one they get kind of smelly and some faster than you would actually anticipate thought there was like a little bit of a waiting period on that but man who Mr Prunes ripe quickly boy okay. Fine again though. Where are the authorities? Why haven't they come estimated? I called them. How did you do that if the only phone is broken no it was working it stuck working after the cop? What do you mean after the cop? The COP of making a call to supervisors bringing it back up and he was murdered. Of course sure an and the phone stop were Who but still. You just decided hanging out here. I think that is a good judge of character right there. That shows that you can't push me away from my job. If I say that I'm GonNa do this job. I'm going to do this job until I die. That is determination Right Chutzpah is what that is sure. Yeah so who do you work for Mr Manson? Who's right currently deceased? Yes I do you recall. He passed away sometime before my last visit right. Yeah he's getting a lot of freezer burn. He's been in our longtime so far back. I don't even see him through the very deep stack of body right toward the bottom of ood anyway. Getting chills again. You left the door open. That's why You keep frost tate at the bad idea. Okay I guess if I have to just march this mansion and to the police station myself I guess that's what I'm GonNa do. Why would you do? Are you gonNA turn yourself in because me a witness? I don't have anything to turn myself in four. I came back here to right a wrong. The fact that I knew that they were murders going on here and I did nothing about it and I've come back now to do something about it and that is turn yourself in to bring the murderer to justice which is obviously you as you are the only one left here so now you are also here right. I am now. I wasn't twenty minutes ago right but then to ago. You were here briefly. What what are you talking about murder? No I have not been back to. This mentioned in over a year might theory you're popping in and out and pop and people nope why would I do that? That makes no sense giggles. No bad childhood. I've been visiting so.
"mr manson" Discussed on American Elections: Wicked Game
"It's January seventeen. Eighty nine at the Hebron Lutheran Church in culpeper county Virginia. The ground is covered with ten inches of snow with the wind chill. It's well below freezing with a foul weather. Hasn't stopped a crowd of hundreds of Lutherans from gathering outside the Church a young man of twenty one and his father huddled together and watch as a musician plays a fiddle to entertain the crowd freezing stamping feet son. Couldn't they done the debate inside churches. No place for politics. Neither is the snow. Young man blows in his hands to try and stay warm it. Who Will Your forefather? I'll vote with the congregation which candidate he prepared doesn't matter this. Congress will decide the future of the country. I'd say matters a great deal. They're both fine. Virginia Men the paper same Mr Manson does not believe in religious liberty. I highly doubt that they also say he's in favor of attacks to support. The Episcopal. Church is Madison is a fine man. Mr Massin is a federalist Mr Monroe's stood against the federals from the beginning. They're both good candidates. They both make Virginia proud in the congress. I I don't know how you can say. That Madison wants another monarchy. Look at me son. Culpeper County County will likely decide this election for Virginia. But only if we vote as one. My personal preferences. Don't matter as much as the will of the congregation I will vote with my fellow brethren and so you understand. He's just then the white double doors to the church swing open. The FIDDLER STOPS OPS plans a hush falls over the crowd James Madison and James Monroe Walk Outside and meet on the steps of the church as they shake hands. Young Man Notices the contrast in their physical appearance Madison Short and frail. unroll tall and muscular boy leans over whispers to his father House L.. Slight Madison is just wind. Blows there who likely topple over. Hush Monroe takes a step back and gives madison the floor and some clears throat and and begins my fellow Virginians. I'm here today to Vindicate Myself Against The erroneous reports. Being propagated against me just been sad that I am dogmatically. The attached to the constitution in every clause syllable and let her therefor not a single amendment will be promoted by my vote either from conviction or a spirit of accommodation Asian. But I assure you the good people of culpeper county this is simply not true. Freedom of religion must be safeguarded by constitutional amendment meant if elected to serve in the house of the people. I will do everything in my power to protect your freedoms. The Father Nudges Tucson and smart. I don't believe everything you read..
"mr manson" Discussed on KGO 810
"The star witness against him as the messiah come again the second coming of Christ Linda Kasabian who earlier had accused Manson of masterminding seven murders revealed that she thought Manson was Christ that he generated love and fewer troops and that she had been in love with him defense attorney Paul fitzgerald said isn't it true Manson didn't care to have you near him there was no direct response to this first move by the defense to show that Mrs can save him is testifying against Manson because he's corner good afternoon I'm Pat thirst and my guess is either Davis and his book is called Manson exposed it's it's an amazing book a reporter's fifty year journey into madness and murder and it's fast paced and when you start reading it you're going to remember certain things that you've heard or that you remember from the time if you're old enough I bet you're gonna learn so much more and I'm fascinated by your journey itself I've or and one of the things that you did was you went out to the Spahn ranch and you talked with the people out there who was still living out there at the time what was that like I know that you spoke with squeaky from what did you learn well you know one of the I I I'm not sure it's jump back to one of the sound bites you use Charlie Manson was describing his father was as a bunch of kids working out their problems how lovely that is his net anyway well I went out and I discovered completely contradictory stuff mention it being arrested and he was happy and in the area of independent you've been arrested not for murder at that time he being arrested for concept and the centers are storming court I raced back to southern California and went to the Spahn ranch and they're right I just had an incredible story I spoke to a squeaky Fromme and a bunch of other people and those who are devoted to mention said lovely things about him but there were two or three or four guys including a pole and and Brooks Boston and what gives a Brooks Boston who just laid it out for me in the in the car on the way that I I I sat there in disbelief I mean they said that Manson was to help to old intents and purposes the members of that plan Jesus Christ he decided what they would do he fed them drugs he he might even believe he was Jesus he ran the old years he organized it with like Danzig skills I mean it's it's it's it was incredible and then Watkins and pasta and told me that that they'll just go to the Beatles white album tranice about this secret messages to Charlie about a black white race war and when I heard that because I knew the Beatles because I traveled with the beetle because I knew they lyrics I thought to myself this is the biggest load of old you know what but I listened and they really believe that they believe that the lyrics from the Beatles white album was secret messages from the Beatles and lance and brainwash these people to believe that was the case and that the Beatles were predicting a race war well I must say I went to weigh in shock and disbelief these young people had being so call need into believing this and I knew instantly that that was that was lala land yeah and I did get a land and it's astonishing to think that somebody would believe that Manson was Jesus Christ and yet he was perpetrating these murders were the people did the rest of the family did they know that these murders were taking place or was this something that was just with an elite corps of Manson's followers a water leak core new at particularly the participants but since I got back from the killings that Sharon Tate and the killings at the lobby on his house they posted they talked about it to a small coterie of members it was still there and they were shocked and I actually believe it or not put the television on a watch the news reports the shocking reports of the murders at the Tate house in the lobby on gas so they knew and they they quickly realized that Charlie was behind it because that goes Osho boasted to them quietly that they what they have to testify didn't emerges so it was craziness and Manson created an environment that certainly was nothing like a bunch of kids working out their problems well he created a chaotic environment in the court room to once the trial actually began there were yeah I want to talk a little bit about that but didn't the Charlie had a death list and I didn't know about that there were people on it like Steve McQueen Frank Sinatra Dean Martin and Elizabeth Taylor well what was that about how did they find out that they were on a Manson deathless well here's what happened Susan Atkins who was going to be the chief prosecution witness had confessed to estimate and then she was brought before the Los Angeles grand jury and she's ensuring spilling it all out she said that Charlie had it definitely is an older people you're mentioning building this but Tyler Richard Burton and the queen were on this definitely is now to be honest with you I'm not even sure and I don't really believe there was a death list but he made quite a sensational story particularly as it was part of the grand jury transcript and the local daily newspaper in Los Angeles ran with it headline and and Susan Atkins talked about it but I think it was part of her fevered crazy imagination but as soon as that story came out Hollywood went into a new wave of panic I mean all these guys Steve McQueen ended up sleeping with that shot Gondry bed and a pistol under his pillow these people were terrified and and so there is a death list exist maybe maybe not there were other famous people who had certain connections to Charlie Dennis Wilson of the beach boys was one what was his connection well the Dennis Wilson connection was strange and here's here's what happened you mention goes way hitch hiking down Pacific coast highway in Malibu and Dennis will send a good shoulder the walls show these young tricks picked them up and they got into a heated and at night he did but that a passionate discussion the coach said we have a guru who we think is three zero is that it's Jesus and you must meet him and Dennis Wilson said I know my goal really is a guy called to my receipt so they got on very well and then some time later and he picked he picked the girls up again and he took him back to his mention on Sunset Boulevard it was at the civic palisades sunset Boulevard mentioned was owned by movie stars Dennis was living there and Dennis was free and easy with his hospitality he left the goes bad and he came back out the recording session at two in the morning and lo and behold there was a black bass in the driveway any minute Mr Manson and believe it or not the two hit it off so well he invited Charlie indigo to move in and can you believe that Johnny indigo's moved in with Dennis Wilson and Dennis Wilson then gave gave the Manson gang entree to Neil Young and and and Terry Melcher and the Mamas and the Papas you came to see that Manson suddenly realized this is my possible to rock and roll of fame and he saw himself as what at potential rock and roll star he played the guitar which he learned to play in jail he wrote a few songs any any sudden in his mind said I'm going to be a rock star I'm gonna be bigger than the Beatles I'm gonna be somebody who people well our store well it didn't quite work out that way are Dennis will soon introduce him to Terry Melcher the son of Doris Day Terry Melcher was somewhat enamored with man sues sybarite kick lifestyle and the ghost and Terry Melcher arranged Charlie Manson Sabah I'm recording a location and then Terry Melcher decided he didn't want Manson on his record label mansion was somewhat upset by that and and the two separated but but the point was that mention got this entree with his goes to the strata of top level rock and roll people in Hollywood in any did it to Brian Wilson at so with Terry Melcher I mean how did he react when you know Charlie states go ahead yeah sorry to interrupt you but yet Dennis Wilson at never got involved it was Brian Dennis Wilson was the guy and who was the right right right yeah Brian Wilson wasn't what he's brought about yet Dennis was a crazy wild ride drama right yeah most promising not that crazy but anyway lot of our guy about apple your dramas out there I apologize where where where we now Melcher how did he respond well Terry Melcher was an interesting guy I mean he had a great track record with the birds and many other rock groups is a producer and he was fascinated with the Manson lifestyle and fascinated by the Manson girls and he went out to the Spahn ranch and and he actually auditioned Charlie and that Charlie was auditioned by some other people but Sam out along the way Terry Melcher became this enamored with Manson and everybody seems to think Terry Melcher who lived on cielo drive in Beverly hills was of Charlie is murdered at that Charlie knew that Terry Melcher and his girlfriend Candice Bergen actress Margot Adler ask Joe Melcher had a brief encounter with Charlie Manson which I know because I interviewed him he lived to regret to his dying day I would think so listen we've got a a listener with a call here hang on just a second I will let's bring on Keith Keith is in Petaluma he thought I welcome to KGO you're with I'd work go ahead hi I can wrap my head around narratively the idea that they believed he was Jesus Christ I can wrap my head around the kind of psychosis in that and also the psychosis and believing the Beatles albums said what they believed it said I just at a level if this were truly a movie and I were in the audience how could I believe what what I'd be led to believe about the persons who were dispatched to the house to kill Mrs Mrs Tate and her unborn child never did they were they in any sense was Susan Atkins in any sense of where that these were human beings innocent human beings orders of what what can you can you give me their state of mind when they were conducting the place and not just during the butchery but afterwards did they ever show remorse for the brutal gun all all murders of these innocent people what what about it I've worked well please I I know I'm first certainty that they did not show any remorse I mean Susan Atkins said well she deserved it did you have in their crack bought mine but let me also let me throw the question in a way back to you both and here's a crash yet if you took LSD if you took a multitude of mind expanding drugs and I asked you off you were what yup yup brain was full of that to go out and kill people would you go out and kill people because your dust control of your mind well I I would hope not to some extent if you're saying that they were literally intoxicated by LSD and multiple drug that answers it for make up for sure yes no one more quick question really say at the time of the murders of war they tripping then I bore yes okay they were all right okay there were high okay in the same sense was Brian Wilson who was enamored of him for our or whichever Wilson Dennis whichever Wilson was enamored of the did Charlie have the ability hi I there are so many questions or did he come across as charismatic in a way that a movie star would or were there any hints and how did he describes his psychosis in those kinds of interaction with a determined off turn on kind of thing he could turn it off and he could turn it on he could be Mr Tshombe could smooths told anybody into anything each and with Dennis Wilson you're going to realize to be honest with you that Dennis walls hi most of the time I mean Dennis was okay with that out of control and Dennis sees his guy and thinks my god he's brilliant I mean Neil Young listen to at Charlie Manson glance at what you know he sounds like a a a a a could it could be Bob Dylan's shows people at and I mean are under legislate drugs can do double sinks to your mind and I see us that that emphasize things I mean you said the police are telling me to make the bike but you said you could see why 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"mr manson" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Ten twenty six News Radio seven hundred wwl, w let's see here. I'm so sick of rain. I mean we've had enough of it. Well, we're going to get some more today. Apparently, there's a flash flood watch for the tristate. Well that just ended because I so decree it should end. No. Actually, it ended at ten AM anyway. Rain and storms until early this afternoon. Yes, high of seventy four tonight clearing fifty two for the low Tuesday, sunny, high of seventy five be still my beating heart. That sounds like a could be some good flooding weather. Which is golf spelled backwards because that's the way I play same thing for Wednesday to high seventy seven where at sixty nine and cloudy at the tri-state severe weather station, News Radio seven hundred wwl w Jimmy jet, Jimmy, Jack Jimmy Jackson sale. He's been hanging around for a while. Jimmy Jack what's on your mind, man? My name's Jimmy use that for I listen to, again. Have you ever heard of the song Jimmy Mack? No. Oh, it was out in the sixties, Jimmy Mack. Jimmy Mack, Jimmy Mack Wendy. I remember it wasn't exactly song that well, but go ahead. Oh, okay. Change the whole world, though. They did. Yes. Mr. Manson helter skelter. New music listening. You learn more from you. Well, if you're in a band. I should team up. We could write some lyrics and all that we could ever. So, yeah, I wrote that's fantastic. I. I hit a holder on their around my neck to play Monica. Follow it, John Lennon. Well, I was pretty good. By the, the birds so twelve string very good. God to me. They said you wanted to talk about identity theft. Okay. Go right ahead. Decorator decorates contemporary and opened contemporary, okay? Well, you buy one thing from that, that product and to a week or two later, he gets three or four magazines. The same. How did they get your density, because it's sold to people. That's right. Nude already know that. Yeah. No. But I'm saying that's how that's how they that's how a lot. That's why you're right. Or most of it. Well, what's frightening to Jimmy is that is that sometimes like you're sitting in your living room when you're talking about, you know, I really, you know, we, we to get a car. We gotta get a new car new talking back and forth. All of a sudden, on your Facebook, timeline, or your Twitter timeline. They're showing your cars car. How do they get that? Got one of those one of those listening things, I've always thought those things are crazy. Those little things where you ask these asthma. Hey, tell me what time it is. They tell you what time it is. Well, it's sitting there listening to you and report back to the home office on all that. That's how they how they that's how they get your identity Jimmy. You know that. I know. Yeah. Well, I. We'll write a song. We'll call Jimmy will call it identity theft, it might have hacked me but it ain't going to hack you. That sounds like something that the late Johnny paycheck might say, coming up on ten twenty nine next up Amy Wagner. She's a woman that wants your money. There's some you know, see every day on seven hundred wwl deputy. Traffic and weather News Radio seven hundred w ELL delegates Cincinnati. Can other tariffs spearheaded off with the ten thirty report on Bryant combs breaking down? There's a deal to avoid new tariffs on Mexican imports. And now Trump administration says its working hard on a trade deal with China that would end those tariffs that have been affect for a few weeks. Enquirer says those tariffs new import fees on Canadian. Lumber are pushing way up the cost of building a new home in Cincinnati..
"mr manson" Discussed on GSMC Weird News Podcast
"Super cute because he, I bake, you got that from his wife. Which he did lose his wife. When about fourteen fifteen years ago said and every morning before work, he stops by her. Gravesite goes into work, but so cute race know at the same time, you just want to be like, oh, let me give you a hug so they his wife was his wife of seventy years have indeed years. Her name was Carmella oh yeah, I want it didn't say what she did for profession, but she must have been a good woman. She worked at the salon. I I know know string. string begs to. Yeah, right crazies. He is so independent. They said the the shop owner. She said he won't. He won't even let other people like sweep up his his area. He'll do all that hit so responsible. I know see, where are the rest of them. I feel like this not many of those. Not all men were. I'm not gonna. Go looking for one hundred seven year old. Yeah, a little the term grave diggers coming up. Nut golddigger Ed gravedigger. Totally. But I thought that was such a cute story. Mr. Manson l. e. keep going as long as you can. And I wish him all the best because I thought that was awesome. We're gonna take a quick break and come back with some more weird news. Out this show built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme case fighting, we got the fights cover the Golden State media concepts women's MMA podcast, the latest news of upcoming twice discussions of previous Mattis's join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know, we're to listen to the Golden State media concepts women's MMA podcast..
"mr manson" Discussed on American History Tellers
"He often used religious language to make his point pin show. On the other hand was more pragmatic. He wanted nature to be preserved, but also used. He felt force should be managed for the greatest good of the greatest number in the long run. His utilitarian philosophy aligned him squarely with teddy Roosevelt's conservationist fuse. Some historians believe Pinto and your had their first falling out at Seattle's rainier, Grand Hotel in September, eighteen ninety seven. The two supposedly got in a heated argument over Pinto's support of sheep grazing and national forests. But the real reason may have been the report that emerged the same year following the national force commission survey Muir along with the head of the commission wanted to close off the forests, prevent development and have the US army patrol their borders pin show. On the other hand, wanted to see the force regulated and administered through a civil. Service, like the ones he'd seen in Europe. Crucially, he wanted them to stay open to the public. The commission went with the first plan and show was livid. He thought the commission was making mistake, but apart from threatening to write a minority report attacking his friends views. There was little. He could do. The Gulf widened between the two s pinch, show progress in his career. By eighteen ninety eight pin show had been named the head of the division of forestry under the department of agriculture. Here, Penn show would build a close relationship with Theodore Roosevelt. The president, affectionately nicknamed Pinto gif. And later historians would refer to him as the crown prince of teddy Roosevelt's tennis court cabinet. They're similar upbringings and love of nature led to a close relationship built on shared ideals for both men. Those ideals included pudding nature and service of human needs, or conservation through use can show wanted to use i-if methods to maximize efficiency and productivity. He liked to refer to forestry as tree farming, explaining the purpose of forestry is to make the forest produce the largest possible amount of whatever crop or service will be the most useful and keep on producing it for generation after generation of men and trees. A well handled. Farm gets more and more. Deductive as the years pass. So does a well handled forest. His friend Muir, meanwhile, had come to believe that forestry and wilderness preservation were incompatible in nineteen o five. The division of forestry was renamed the United States, forestry service and Pinto, became the head of it all, but he wanted control of the national parks as well. He had even as idea to congress in nineteen. Oh four. There was talk about creating a National Park Service, but Pinto strongly opposed. The suggestion in his view, a National Park Service was no more needed than to tails on a cat as he would write a few years later. The first principle of conservation is development conservation proposes to secure continuous and abundant supply of the necessaries of life, which means a reasonable cost of living and business ability. It was a view that was terrain. His relationship with John Muir to the breaking point. By nineteen of five. The city of San Francisco had made multiple failed attempts to gain approval to dam. Hetch hetchy yours opposition had turned the project into a political minefield and secretary of the interior, Ethan Hitchcock. So steadfast against the dam. But after the earthquake in nineteen, oh six can show recognize the administration now had precisely the sort of a mental needed to get the project back on track and push Hitchcock out in November nineteen. Oh six, seven months after the San Francisco, earthquake, Martin Manson. Now, city engineer received another letter from Pinto. This one read my dear Mr. Manson. I cannot of course, attempt to forecast the action of the new secretary of interior on the San Francisco watershed question. But my advice to you is to assume that his attitude will be favorable and to make the necessary preparations to set the case before him. If the possibility of a supply from the Sierras is still open, you should. I think by all means, go ahead with. The idea of getting it. The new secretary of the interior that Pinto was referring to was James r Garfield. The other man sitting quietly in the room while Manson and Pinto discussed the damn a year prior..
"mr manson" Discussed on American History Tellers
"The best way to free the city from the clutches of the spring valley water company and in February nineteen. O one congress passed the federal right of way act allowing the government to undertake projects in national parks and force reserves related to power communication and water supply the hetch hetchy dam project appeared to fall under it. It seemed the way was clear. Then in September President, William McKinley was assassinated. Theodore Roosevelt came into office and make conservation a cornerstone of his agenda. But Phelan went ahead with his plans in October. He applied on behalf of the city to the federal government for the right to dam hetch hetchy initially it seemed the application had been approved, but then in December nineteen, three word came that the application was being rejected by Roosevelt's interior secretary, Ethan, Hitchcock. Hitchcock was a strong admire of John Muir. He felt Yosemite status as a national park call for the preservation of its natural curiosities or wonders in their natural condition. And he disagreed with failings claim that hatch hetchy was the most viable source of water for the city. He rejected Phelan's application, the city of San Francisco appeal, the decision arguing that flooding hetchy would actually enhance the beauty of the park. When you're heard this argument near reportedly snorted as well may damning New York. Central park would enhance its beauty. The appeal was rejected falen applied again in nineteen. Oh five. After ten years mayor had ended, he. Received the same answer? No. Magin it's winter of nineteen o five. You're sitting in the office of Gifford Pinchot. Oh, the two of you met at a fundraiser in the red room of the Willard hotel, two nights prior, you used to be a public works Commissioner for San Francisco under mayor Phelan not anymore though. Now you're a private citizen and you've come to DC under your own steam. You're hoping somehow to convince the administration to approve the hatch hetchy project. You believe it's important when you bumped into Pinto head of the newly created department of forestry, you hope you might have an ally. Can show seemed interested in hearing about your mission after a few minutes chatting at the party. He suggested that to you meet formally at his office and two days later here you are in a client room with a wintry gloom shining through the window. Door opens and two minutes. Mr. Manson nice to see you again. Glad you could make it good to see you again Mr. pinch. Oh, please call me gifts. This other gentleman is James r Garfield director of the bureau of corporations at the department of commerce and labor and the son of our late president. I may add, he shares our interest in the hetch hetchy project. Nice to meet you Mr. Garfield Garfield Greece, you and sits on a couch along the wall control moves back behind his desk. So Mr. Manson, what can you tell me about this? Damn, as I said, the other night, our intention is to build a reservoir in the valley of hetch hetchy. You see the water supply. There is incredibly pure. We could Bill water reserves for our entire city by simply constructing this one reservoir, but we can't move forward without approval. Have you reached out to Ethan Hitchcock? He's the secretary of the interior? Yes. The previous mayor Mr. Phelan as applied to Mr. Hitchcock several times, but he's denied us denied on what grounds. He feels that because you're. Semi is a national park. There shouldn't be a damn can show leans back in his chair and strokes his chin thoughtfully. Well, now that's an interesting argument. There are plenty of people who had -gree with him. John Muir for one, yes. John Muir has made his feelings on the matter known to mayor Phelan. He thinks there are other places that could do just as well, isn't that it have you looked into some of these other locations? We have, sir, but none are so pure or so practical has Hatschi. We could buy land cheaply there since owned by the government. So it's mainly financial consideration? Well, no, not exclusively. In fact, I've got a letter from your right here that says the scheme for securing these water rights is full of graft as any of the lumber companies plans to obtain big blocks of the best timberland. Is that true? Mr. Manson your throne, you had hoped this would be a friendlier meeting, but you gotta your thoughts and respond? Not to my knowledge, sir. I'm an engineer. I leave the politicking to other people..
"mr manson" Discussed on Perspective
"Go lee or almost like bragging which just made me feel even worse i mean it it was like how could you do then why do you think you weren't asked to participate in those martyrs i i don't think i could have done it and i don't think he and i think he knew that if charlie had asked you to would you have killed for him no i couldn't have i never thought about it as being real that we would ever have to really kill somebody police eventually linked manson to the murders arresting him and several of his other followers including then 16yearold diane at manson's trial diane's explosive testimony helped put him behind bars a local newspaper documented a pivotal courtroom moment i was asked did i love that i love him and i said yes or i guess so and he pipes up you know dole put it all and mr manson she learned everybody and so that really you know it was all about him the spell with broken the spell was broken manson would deny responsibility for his part in the murders telling abc news is diane sawyer in 1993 i never told anybody to do anything other than what they wanted to do i know that i was not responsible diane says it's been healing to finally tell her story i feel untethered from the shame of being associated with this person who has become the icon of evil i need new robot in new york.
"mr manson" Discussed on Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio
"Guys like an audio time machine back to the mid nineties as a time when a kid named brian war nerve became the most dangerous and controversial musician in the world he didn't go by brian of course the celebrate threatening name the name marilyn manson had a better ring to it and for a time in the nineties some people considered him the closest thing to the devil and that by the way was a label of his own choosing but even demons get old and today some twenty one years after the anticrisis superstar gave us the beautiful people manson is releasing his tenth studio album it's called heaven upside down and we brought the queue this squad back for another week to take a closer look at mr manson his legacy and where he is right now rain interest is the host the cbc radio to mornings and a daria williams is the host the cbc radio touts after dark and the front man of grand analog hello to you both hello hello hello hello i still feel thrilled and i hear that yeah i can see it in an owing somehow before we get to the new tunes with the drums of this beautiful people still ringing in our ears let's go back there nineteen ninetysix marilyn manson releases anticrisis superstar i mean literally a cultural force that album we can we can say that what do you remember about maryland from that time riina 1926 allies time so it is i think beautiful people came out on a big chinese tunes to a whole land i remember being anti friend julie's birthday and she got four copies of the chinese to on cd and one on cassatt her parents made her return all the cd copies letter keep the tape so they could tape over beautiful people our mailing slant it was the coolest thing in the world are as soon as he did at your how dare ruined forever it's terrible that i am actually like i like those parents now our said i i it just it was bad it was dark scariest sexiness ban of daria i you know i remember the video are also ted enough killer i remember the music videos i remember you know.