20 Episode results for "Mr Cameron"

How To Get Free Press Like Richard Branson...with Cameron Herold

Self Made Man

36:39 min | 1 year ago

How To Get Free Press Like Richard Branson...with Cameron Herold

"Welcome back to the Mike. Dillard podcast where we help entrepreneurs like you get the knowledge and skills that you need to bring your dreams to life while gang today, we're gonna talk about one of the most underrated marketing strategies in the world with one of my favorite friends and mentors. Mr Cameron Herold now I'm gonna jump out on a limb here. And guess that like me, you are probably a big fan of Mr Richard Branson. And one of the reasons that I love Richard so much is that he's an incredibly shy introvert, who has mastered. The art of getting billions of dollars in advertising for his ventures for free is driven a tank through the streets of New York to get attention for the launch of virgin cola. He's hired a blimp that said British Airways can't get it up when they were having construction problems repel down the sides of the palms casino in a tux, any crossed the English channel in a floating car. Why did he do all these things to get free attention and free press for his businesses? So if you're willing to use a little. Bit of creativity. And if you know how to strategically work with the media, you could find yourself getting the kind of free press and traffic, that would normally cost tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars will today Kamara's gonna give you the blueprint that you need to start getting free traffic using PR right now today. Now there's a massive side benefit to using the strategy as well. Once you get a story featured in these major publications you can use them to acquire that allusive and coveted verification badge on all of the major social media platforms. This is definitely an episode that you're going to want to take some notes on so be prepared to do that. Cameron does not leave anything out and before we dive in I wanted to give you guys a free resource that I am often asked about that is, who does my tech who sets up my shopping cart, who does my funnels who, does my split testing, and all of that fun stuff. So I just wanted to give you guys that resource for free in order to say thank you for listening. And thank you. For your support for the past seven or eight years. I've used a company called vision tech team dot com. They've done all my tech. They've set up all of my membership sites and everything in between. And they know every internet marketing software platform out there that exist backwards and forwards. So if you need help with your tack, and if you need to hire tech team that knows marketing most importantly than the guys that vision, TEK team dot com. Are the best out there in the world? This is not a sponsor plug of any kind, they're not compensating me in any way for this. This is just me hooking. You guys up with one of the most valuable resources. I have once again say thank you for listening. So with that being said, please help me welcome Mr Cameron Herold Cameron Herold. Welcome back to the podcast. Man. I've been looking forward to this, this interview for weeks. Now, welcome him. I thanks for having me. Yeah. Absolutely. So you've been a huge contributor to the podcast here in the past to the training platform with the amazing classes that you, you produced with us, which have just been awesome. And I wanted to have you back on the show because you've got a book that you just released a couple of months ago, about a topic that I've found fascinating for years that I still really don't understand, and that is how to get free PR and to do it, correctly and strategically. So, so I'm really excited to talk about the subject because I think the, the benefits versus the risks are very Ason metric, if you do it correctly, meaning it could put your business on the map, and change your life, or you could end up spending the ton of money on this and get results whatsoever. So I'm glad you're here to be your guide. Thank you know. And you actually touched on something that it's interesting. And not many people actually pick up on that. And that's the strategic use of getting publicity as well on a lot of people just kind of go after at they don't really think about how can tie into either building their own personal brand building their business or building certain. Aspects of their business. Yeah. Give us the give us the fifty thousand foot view from from the beginning one. How did you get involved in this topic enough to want to write a book about it? And what have you learned jer? So I got exposed to granting pre-publicity publicity when I was quite young by my father, and both my grandfathers owned companies, and they were all three of them were very adapted leveraging the media, and I kinda remember my dad coming home one day, and he was in the newspaper yet again, for something that he'd done golf club. He'd raise money for charity. The Gulf, and I'm like how come you're always in the paper like, how do they know you, and we didn't grow up in a big city, we grew up in a city of hundred thousand people. And he said, I just phone them like, what do you mean? Like, they, you know, there's a picture of you, you know, raising money for charity. And there's this little article about you in charity, a what do you mean? You phone phone the newspaper, and I told them that there was a story and they came out in the covered me, and that's stuck with me now I was about thirteen years old at stuck with me for number of years. And then I was around twenty one and I was running my own house painting business. I twelve employees we're painting houses, and I thought you know. I'd be really cool if I could get the newspaper to write about the fact that I was painting houses collect probably gets more chrome it. And so I found the newspaper and I said, you know, I think I have a good story for you in the writer said, what is it is it will it was really hard to find a job this summer. So I started to start my own business. Maybe we could read a story about, you know, university kids or college can starting their own company and taking their future into their own. And the writer said that it'd be great, how would it come up in southeastern and I got off the phone, and I of went while that was easy and that really was the start of it. And then it was, you know, dozens of articles over a few years later without company and then years later again with an auto body chain. And then with a brand that I'm sure everyone listening heard of, like human is the chief operating officer of a company called one eight hundred got junk, we had fourteen employees. When I joined we landed five thousand two hundred stories but our company and secures, including being on Oprah in pretty much every major newspaper magazine could think of. The printing, and that was literally using the same methodology. So I started understand how to defy that it worked, and it worked for number different businesses than it was always that same way of district phone calling. So here's the biggest lesson that I've learned when it comes to this. I, I hired a PR agency three or four years ago. I don't remember exactly what it was going to be around. I think I think just kind of my personal story to do some personal branding, and I ended up spending twenty something thousand dollars with this company, and they ended up writing like two or three page personal story, or bio which I could have done myself in a few hours for free. And then it never went anywhere. Because like this is ridiculous. What am I paying you guys for right now? You got on the phone with me recorded what I told you, you put it into the document for twenty grand. Yeah. And now I've got to pay you more money than submit it out. And there's also now an entire ecosystem of internet entrepreneurs in, in kind of this entrepreneur space who will you can pay three four five thousand dollars to get featured in on Forbes or entrepreneurs Zine or success or whatever, like they're, they're contributing to Iago head, contributing writers yet, those are those are the contributing writers for what is unfortunately, become ambassador, is medium of online journalism, like, yes. Yes. And so what I hear you saying. And this is what I want you to dive into more here in a second. And what I've learned is that the media and writers journalists are starving for interesting content stories to tell and you don't have to pay for that they would be Arild to hear from you and to be able to put together something fascinating and interesting for their audiences for free. They're not going to charge for it. And that to me is the. Biggest lightbulb moment that people need to get is that you're the one with all the power. They're the ones waiting to hear from you. It's just a matter of learning how to approach them how to give them something that's a win win for you. And for them, yet, you're actually really crushing this, this topic. So here's cures you get it. So here's the key, every single journalists woke up this morning and thought to themselves what the heck am I gonna write about today? No, every podcast or thought about whom I gonna cover every blogger thought about who should I write about every magazine newspaper journalists on what story can I write today and that the Cup of the new story constantly of the multiple stories a day, some of the multiple stories a week, even the TV and radio same thing, right? They're all looking for content. The big thing to remember is that every media outlet only makes money in one specific way. And that's by selling advertising. They don't make money off their circulation podcasters. Don't make money by selling their. Podcast. TV journalists don't make money by selling your TV news story, right? Everyone makes money off the advertising and the only way they get out of your ties. Ing is down a whole bunch of people devouring or content, which means they're content needs to be really good. So that's clue number one. They need. Good content. Number two, is there's no such thing as investigative journalism anymore. People don't have the actual money to go out and find a story the what happens is, they're sitting at their desk wondering what to write about your job is to give them something to write about, and they will write about it, though. The go-ahead is like I'm just like thinking, like, and that's that's how you end up with site like business insider that has a thousand articles on the ten best hamburgers. You know in the United States. Exactly. They're just looking for content to be fun to them. So the, the real I come up with what we call the three easy steps to free PR, the first step is to know your angle and every business, we talk about businesses in general for second every business really has five airy similar stories. The first story is kind of the entrepreneurial startup. Right. It's how did you start your company? Did you drop out of a career? Did you leave a job somewhere where you frustrated with something? It launched the start of the new product you, try to solve some problem that you had will, you bet your entrepeneurship startup story. The second story that everybody has is the overcoming adversity right as the heros, during that. I struggled with this while I was running my company. I really struggled in. Here's what I learned. Here's what I overcame. And there's a lesson there for everyone inspiration there for everyone. And it's that same hero's journey arc that you take people through. So we all have. You know, you have, and I have a number of, of these overcoming adversity stories. The media wants to write about the third one is, is, we have our culture angle. Right. It's like what kind of culture do we have that because everyone wants to learn more about culture in? It's not about the remiss is in the free lunches. So how do we build great companies? How do we build remote teams you might have your technology angle? Right. How you're leveraging technology tools and apps hacks to render business, or you might have suffered a remote, gene. So the key is to come up with, you know the last one. The fifth one is your the story related to your customers benefitting from your product or service, that's really a customer testimonials story. Right. So in my case, I would talk about, you know, CEO's that I've coached, and the successes, they had in their business or Teo who joined the alliance and how it made a difference in their careers. And I get the article to cover them in their successes of mentioned in that story. So if you think. About those are the angles, the second one is to know your target audience and this means the target audience of the actual media outlet that is covering them because in every case, if we think about a business story, you know, the Wall Street Journal's business section, or fortunes, business magazine, or Forbes entrepreneur inker success or new your podcast or a blog or Forbes online, all of those have very, very different business audiences even though their business outlets. So you think after think about how do you have you spin your story or position your story for that specific audience? And that's the kind of know your target than the third step is to pick up the phone, and this is where most people go sideways, especially nowadays more than ever. They try to Email. Everyone will the idea is in every single journalist probably gets two hundred miles a day, but they probably only get four or five phone calls a day in two of them are other. So you've much much higher chance. Getting through to someone if you own the and if you if you don't get a hold anything even leave a quick message and say, hey, it's Cameron calling from the CO alliance. I think I've a great story for you. Give me a call back. Here's the number. If I'm sorry, and half snuggle on back, but and, and what's the best way to get their phone number? So you can get the phone numbers either off online databases, like station or media outlets or muckracker online databases, you can subscribe to for not much money. Maybe fifteen hundred eighteen hundred dollars a year or if you're just doing a little bit Grillo PR in your contacting, maybe ten people often, you'll find their phone numbers, just through Google Lincoln or yelling, can worst-case scenario, you can also phone actual outlet and just say, you know, his Mike Dillard, their pleaser Cameron calling for Mike. Mike, mike. Dillard in this kind of odd g shucks your way him. Yeah. Because nowadays, there's really no such things a gatekeeper anymore. These big companies aren't used to getting phone calls. So they kind of you're supposed to be calling person, and then the pitch that I use always the same aid. You have two minutes. I think I've agreed story for you and more often than not the person's going to say, yes, because again, they're looking for good content when it comes to. Two. So I'm gonna use myself as an example, because I've been thinking about this the last few months dealing with my health stuff. Right. I have a hell of a story to tell from the past year, and I'm waiting to tell it until I'm, I'm fully recovered, and I have a final chapter, essentially an e the preliminary title might be something along the lines of how the entrepreneurial hustle almost killed me kind of a deal. Right. So I know outlets like entrepreneur magazine success fortune etcetera, etcetera. It would probably have an interest in that story. And an additional benefit that I have to offer is that, hey, assuming you publish this. I will send my entire audience to your publish. You know, your site your article to go read it. You don't you don't have to do that part. Okay. Don't don't, don't do that, at the beginning because then it sounds like you're selling them, right? Remember, they actually need your. Sorry. And it's to have enough confidence in your story that you don't have to give the additional benefits. Gotcha. Okay. So that I really, really good. Because this is a journalist who just wants really good content, by the way, I don't know if I would wait until your stories done, then it's like everybody else's. Imagine if your story is how my health issues has been killing me and what I'm doing overcome the or what I'm doing to try to overcome them. So there's like a hope imagine if you could take people along the journey with you. Imagine if you can have like a three part study over the next twelve months, you're gonna talk about what you're working on because everybody has that story of, oh, I was sick. And now I'm not right. What about what about I'm sick and I'm struggling, and I'm gonna open up the KOMO knowing what you go through it with me. Okay. All right. Gotcha. Like fuck. That's cool. So question number two, four. You is around approaching multiple publications. Ideally, you know, you see, when you see story go out that usually is good. You're, you're seeing it everywhere. Your. And a lot of outlets. How do you approach that in handle that where it's like, hey, should I give this to entrepreneur do you wanna run it for success? Ideally, I want to get it in both. But what's the strategic component around handling that more often than not none of us that are listening right now are really running that big of an exclusive story that we can pitch the embargoed story to one one out? We're talking about. We're talking about running that big, speech or front page article that's gonna be the big scoop than we probably know that's what it is. But if it probably trying to strategically think about it would probably I think I wouldn't worry about it as much. So, I would I would be doing is looking for a lot of city related press, you know, business magazines newspapers city by city, you can get covered in the discovery Tribune than Francisco, Chronicle Dallas Morning News. Boston globe. Thank her son. Austin, whatever you think about market by market by market all of those business. Newspapers will cover you as well as multiple news news outlets like magazines and wires. The key is just remember those journalists have their target audience than you're gonna position your story or spin your story, a little bit more for their audience. Okay. But if we have those yeah, if you big scoop story than it something slightly different. Do you come to? Them with your story already written and everything ready to go and to hand to them. Or, or do you doubt what I do is? I, I give him the title of what the story might sound like right? So it might be, you know, how my health almost Kilmer how, how mine health has been killing me or something to that effect. And then what are the five bullet points around that story? Right. So it's how I was struggling how I noticed. I was struggling how I have been reaching out for help, what I've been doing about it. And what I plan to keep doing, you know, cheer me on kind of, and you and you give the author journalist, the five core bullet points so they can frame, a story around that it's kind of insulting to a writer to send them full story. It's almost like walking up to a girl in a regular guy bar, giving them your entire life resume. Like, hey, here's everything about me. They'll be like, dude. I don't like now I wouldn't even be able to. Uncover that overtime. Right. Right. You wanna give give the little tidbits about yourself and then get them to come up with their own perceptions of their own store, and then the, the other big piece of the puzzle that I would wanna have in place. I is a proper way to capture that attention. Right. Yes. So the first again, I always go back to pick up the phone, so I never phoned the news desk. I never phone. The city desk. I never editor, let me think about an editor for a second. The editor who woke up today you know it's Monday, the editor that sat down to their desks. Today is going through hundreds of newswires in press releases for the last few days and they're saying, not every single one of them. Picture them with a stock of two hundred wires in two hundred nails. They're saying, no, no, no, maybe, no, no, maybe why would you ever want to call that person? But if you phone the writer and sitting down dust going what the hack Megan right about today, and you give them some story that might inspire them chances are they're going to say yes to it. So I, I do like that. Initial message of aid. You have two minutes. I think I've good story for you. If they say, yes, you say, here's the headline in here couple bullet points. What do you think if they say, no too busy? Give you call tomorrow or Thursday. And then let's say you get the green light. They do the interview with you. It's gonna be a great piece. Do. They typically ask you. Hey, is there any website or something that you want me to link to a reference? Yep. They may ask you for more supporting information after you get into and you realize they're writing in store. You can ask them. Would you like me to send you some more points on this to send you a couple of a website links? You might be able to look at wholesome information from don't ask them to link back to your website until no, the stories running because then you can ask them. And they'll say, yes, but kind of it's kind of getting a fish on the line. You wanna make sure the fish is on the hook before you really a real it in. Right. Don't, don't turn from story to marketing until you know, there's a story. I cheat that a little bit again. You're there to help there to help them come up with a story once you've helped him cope with the story there, so thankful. They'll put all kinds of links in it back to your website. And that is, by the way, one of the strongest ways to drive up the oh, his media about your brand without a doubt. If you were to Google my name right now. And look, Google news. It's story after story after story and that all links back to my website. That's pretty colorful stuff. Yeah, absolutely. On the on the voice mail message. So let's say you don't get through the journalists and you're gonna leave a phone call. Just leave the message and say, hey, it's Cameron calling from the CO lions if you have two minutes giving show back. I think I have a good story for you. Here's myself number. That's it don't tell them the story. Don't tell them and don't send him an Email follow up. Wait until you've left two or three messages before you send an Email. And if you send an Email, the Email should be exactly the same thing. Don't tell the story. You're trying to get them to phone you to engage with you, and most of them will. Okay, awesome. How many people should you be reaching out to on a daily basis? And what do you think you're? Response ratio. Would you know something to shoot for? Are you telling topic or something about I was just thinking to myself, I should probably tell you how the whole sales, our, I'm so think of it like sales funnel, that this is a no, you're you're talking to potential buyers. So what I like to do is make ten outbound phone calls maximum per day. Even eight outbound calls per day is really good pitching eight people day that sporty pitches per week that comes up to one hundred fifty pitches hundred sixty pitches per month that will usually generate six stories, promote. And what is the process typically look like from a time commitment for from the, yes. Is that you get right? Is an hour long phone call. Is it multiple? It's, it's often less than an hour long. It's probably closer to twenty minute phone call for most journalists. I'm thinking about how fast you can talk you can really cover a pretty good story. Right. If you're doing a very indepth story with a major like we did. Fortune magazine that was probably a half day. No in-person meeting, or Associated Press wrote a story that ended up in two hundred twenty newspapers on a single day that was about a half day. No media Tom Cohen. But even like I did a I was in the physical printed issue of Forbes magazine, two years ago, the full page article in Forbes that also which also appears online. But that was with the publisher Carl guarded, I think it was maybe a twenty five minute phone call that ended up as a full page article very cool. Very cool. How do you go about pitching multiple journalists at the same publication or contributor yet? Puffer one I often try to just go with one. I try to figure out which writer for publication is the best one go with them until they say, yes or no. If you hit four or five of them, they end up, usually sitting with their editor, and they're all they're all explaining their story. You don't wanna have Mike John, Bob and Kelly, all explaining that they wanna talk about this story go shit. Guys pitched. All of us. It's us it's usually better to pitch one until you get a no or yes. And then if they get a no try second one, but I would be pitching, you know, multiple people in the same city or you know, that kind of thing, even example, here's a good one. By the way on a customer success side. Let's say I had a customer in Tampa who I coached, this guy, Bobby Harris from bluegrass logistics that coach for five years, I can phone, every single media outlet in Tampa over the course of the month, you know, tentative for five days before weeks. I would cover virtually every journalist in Tampa, every reading all the small ones I'd probably five or six stories about bluegrass logistics benefiting from our coaching after I do that. I could then actually pick up the phone and start calling every single journalist Detroit about another client of mine. Charles Mok Charles has a group called the lure medical if the exact same pitch miss the exact same kind of story, but it's a completely. Market a completely different customer. And I could just do city after city after city if I go through my nineteen coaching clients by the time, I've done nineteen cities, I've covered nineteen weeks of pitching, you get enough press to cover you for couple of years, and that's way cheaper than ever. Hiring a PR firm for six thousand dollars a month, and then let's, let's talk about that. So let's talk about the, the ROI that you've seen from pursuing this activity clear. Getting some are wire you wouldn't you wouldn't be still doing this. Yeah. So, well, I is that it's everyone believes what they read in the press, even you know, we're being conditioned around this fake news idea. We still believe there's truth in all this journalism in the stories that you're telling your prospects than your customers are gonna believe those more than they believe your sales letter or emails that you're sending right? So what you can do with the press every, every news, article I get I send it out five times on Facebook. I send five times Lincoln. I send it out five times on Twitter over the course of a few months, I E mail, it's my list. I E mail into the speakers bureaus it gets linked back to my website. I added to the prestige my website. So I'm really taking each story, amplifying it in multiple ways, and all of that drives more credibility more credibility, more credibility. And guess what? You can finally put. Real as featured in, you know blank blank blank on your website. Yeah. And I've even I've even gone so far now is to make a real point of saying things like I've been in the physical printing of forms, physical printing the physical print issue of fortune, as apprentice entrepreneur, not just the website, which has now when I say that it kind of not simply discredits all the prostate anybody else's getting because people like await. Yeah, they're not in a real magazine. And so when you push for really strong content it actually does make you stand out, and you can also get re principle that. No, I've got physical boxes of the Forbes magazine, because it's a full page article written by the publisher about the, the vivid vision, concept, a hand, copies out, everybody, my coaching Conan's copies of sealines members handed events. So there's a lot of, of additional as you mentioned, the strategic side of PR was a lot of other strategic reasons that PR is really good about. Dr zero is well, but don't look at one article going to necessarily drive traffic to your door. Even when we run Oprah for one hundred junk, we didn't necessarily sell a lot of franchises from being on Oprah. The real play. We got off of was ability to talk about being on Oprah for the next sixteen years. Yeah, I mean it's just the limit stamp of their party credibility, right? Is there a way to strategically increase your odds of being put into the print publication? Yeah. I think that the waste is strategically do to make sure that your website is very press friendly. You have good photos up. You have good press. Ling of good press content of new show yourself as being credible. It's to make sure that you keep adding all the additional media that you get any Ryan holiday wrote a really great book years ago called. Trust me. I've lying talked about lathering up the media and every media piece of media coverage. You get shows. More and more credibility for the big publications to take you seriously. Right though. If you've been shown twelve times than, you know, chances are better. If you've been shown fifty times, all of a sudden, they won't even read those articles, they'll be like, wow, this is getting out of coverage. They are the real deal. And she credibility up to mazing. This is just a game of social proof. Totally social proof. Yeah. And that's why so forbade what I like doing all hire a fulltime. I love women underway that are in PR than men are they get through the gatekeepers better better on the phone. They multitask, better. So I hire twenty four twenty five year olds females who loved to sell. I treat it like a sales position because it's cold calling picking up the phone. It's handling rejection managing sales funnel. But if you're paying a fulltime PR person, fifty thousand dollars a year, paid him four thousand dollars a month. Give them another five hundred a month in bonus. Maybe it's fifty five thousand dollars a year, you will absolutely LAN content. And then when you repurpose by handing that content to either, you know, a freelance marketing person of your marketing team, any can really leverage. It is. They can take it republished reluctance. All right. So this just got really interesting. I love that idea. How much do you do you offer? How do you compensate them for each booking that they do? Yeah. What I do is I set up a goal that in the first two months, they have to win three stories a month for the next two months. They have to lend four stories among for the next two months after lend five stories among, and then at six stories month rever afterwards. If they're landing those stories, they're getting a five hundred or six hundred dollars a month dullness, that's it. That's the whole program the entire program is based on them hitting their goals. I don't bonuses in place for that with the Tatum normal salary for. Okay. So, so just to make sure understand this. You're paying them a fulltime salary to, to pursue these bookings and then hitting those goals gives them a bonus. Yeah. Just a little bonus on top of that. Okay. All right. That makes sense. I'd imagine this could potentially be just a great job for virtual assistant whose hungry in. You know, commission based in and is a go getter it. Yes. But don't ever treat it like in the role treat it like it's a sales Ryan really think of a marketed as a sales role because you're gonna hire you're gonna hire a sales person the ads, it's a great like it actually scales quite nicely. I've also been able to use part time, people doing it who also are selling by normal product or service. They spend two or three days a week sowing my products, and they spend two or three days a week, selling my PR able, still a sales person. What Cameron this has been like filled with actionable actionable tips strategy. I don't I don't remember the last time we had an interview that was like ninety nine percent meat and content and an action stuff like this. Thank you for going into the details that you have this is just kind of the tip of the iceberg youth. But this into a book that is step by step blueprint and manual for going out and pursuing free PR and getting it like this. What's the title? The book and where can people get a copy? Yeah. The book is called free PR, and it's on Amazon, audible and itunes. Absolutely step by step. In fact, the reason I wrote it originally was nine years ago, the CEO of grasshopper dot com asked me to write is internal manual the teach him how to build an internal yards on that became the kind of core content than nine years later turned into a real book. Wow. Cool. Very cool guys. Definitely go pick up a copy of the book, I think cameras laid this out and such an easy to understand, fashion and systematized it to where all of us can go immediately start applying this to our businesses. And you never know when one of these stories is going to go big it's going to go viral and it's going to, you know, have the potential. The change your business. I can't tell you how many businesses and startups, I've seen especially around Kickstarter where just the PR in the press around their stories have put their businesses on them. Map so I think pursuing this and doing it right. And doing it strategically with the help of Cameron's ebook is something, everybody needs to do. I know I'm gonna definitely start pursuing this myself. So Cameron, thanks for coming on, once again, and dump, and just a ton of knowledge, and wisdom for everybody, you always deliver the goods whenever whenever you show up. So thank you so much for doing that where you. And where else can people go to connect with you, personally, whether it's your personal website or social media? Look at the second in command podcast on itunes in every wells podcasts are but the second, I only interview the second in command. So the CEO so for all the great companies out there that we're hearing from the CEO, I get the rest of the story and then the CO alliance dot com by core. Website is well awesome. Awesome. Awesome guys go pick up a copy of free p r off Amazon connect with Cameron, and definitely go, make sure you check out the classes that he's produced for you over at Mike, Dillard dot com. Click on the classes, tab, he did two amazing classes of Crete vivid vision for your business, and then how to hold meetings where he basically dives into the same level of detail. You just went through here today, but how to hold productive meetings for your team and your company it's absolutely game changing content. So make sure you check that out as well. Thanks for listening as always if you loved this interview, please, share it with your friends and leave us a five star review on itunes. Spotify anywhere else where you might be listening to. This that helps us out here at the show tremendously. I appreciate you listening as always, and we'll see next.

Cameron writer editor Mike Dillard CEO Google Oprah Mr Cameron Herold Cameron Hero Mike Mr Richard Branson Mr Cameron Herold New York British Airways Ryan Gulf golf Tampa Kamara
The Jumpoff Express with Buena Vista Vinyl Club // 20/01/21

The Face Radio

2:00:00 hr | 2 d ago

The Jumpoff Express with Buena Vista Vinyl Club // 20/01/21

"From the so the brooklyn. You're listening to the face radio Problem phrase to the jump of us press with the one of his von club here in a face radio from the solar brooklyn as we bring you another edition of the last train. Canarias will be all vinyl. Slow jams board of kamran kimmel before we will be here at midnight. Tonight got drank him some grayson variety here on from To go cold down to the days to the world interest thin a old would know. She keeps on the brad trash. The a not saying wanted a. Break your your a break. Don't third time. Mom did a dom turned off career apple Blocks interested Told me own took a aspect Burning spoke okay. The legendary doobie brothers with minute by minute heralded doubled expressed with the benefits of our club. Here face from the solar brooklyn. I'm your host greg jay and all vinyl slow jams for the rest of the evening here at the station as you can as you heard a skip a while ago. Want to give props impreza amazing wednesday lineup. That came before us Sort of at twelve noon with a faq chuck the funk disco freaks with With the disco freaks. Obviously mother. may i will eugene marine and trade the imbroglio volume bliss dj. Monday blue. and of course Bond mr cameron. If you miss any of these amazing shows please check out the archives on the face radio. And i miss clough soundcloud apple podcasts and tune in radio coming up nex. One of my favorite cuts. You know. we'll say what it is but all the purple family what it is It's been seven thousand eighteen fifty to give away go and the ball away Sint can do whatever i can see. Choose de fancying wrist. Bud ie said nothing big away. This blue bad do think not being expense lonely without out too. Know the can't stop from pat brown us do john gas gas man a child to do. Here's a clue to now. Nothing bad own was You you own us Nine shucks Ooh ooh just with a music club on the face. Rated the brooklyn ny greg jay and the next re songs. We're going to story actional next four. The story now a personal lyrical one. So i hope you guys and gals can play a long if you like to join us in. A chat room is chat dot the face. Radio dot com shall to cherry shelter. Monday blue shelter mountain new orleans. This is going to be fun playing his game. Because i worked hard to try to make this happen. So we'll start off at the obvious. Drew hill here on the radio to remain calm. Am didn't think to do that when you gain around last stolen. Oh story you no a just think. How a cancer in also off saw a man that nice them bread now that albie wish pagan stay This meg favorite a a no want a so baby. Adding won't stay a a alone Too bad i gotta face reality stew day. But i've gotta face reality you had business does or should i say oh friend a man that's not wearing it is. That's something that you wanna believe. What say clot you hidden secrecy. Wasn't this in fast. She's hundred percent show and pin baby. Jake briey me face. Reality albums dabbled in law wall and me and could conduct stay. She wouldn't do this all the ball and that you told her bobby apple baby was wasn't disrespect. She's one hundred percent show on baby shit. Basically young bomb didn't see donald b. A your oh post Off de Overnight wrong burger store Do harsh Then i wrong Gotta go move your own. A Hello brandy were broken. Holiday here on the job of the on. The fish radio from the solar brooklyn has called us as we do. All vinyl slow jams educate sell by the slice skips so quick. Funny story last Last week i decided to put some wheels onto my my The bookshelf unit while my records and signed the store and for some strange reason my neighbors decide to do jumping jacks at ten at night. So the walls vibrating. So what i did was to the brakes off my wheels in moved forward. So hopefully it'll be. No more skipping kc be great if it doesn't happen because who does jumbo jack ten thirty eight who knows either way if you like to support the station Support dot the face radio dot com five dollars. Ten dollars fifteen dollars for the eleven dollars whichever you can spare. We will gladly appreciate could be nonprofit also awesome and find your new favorite show on the face radio dot com from dish show which were normally on fridays from four to six which definitely come back and check us out. We'll have fun. You'll definitely a new favorite show on his station. So i strongly recommend you check us up coming up next. Melodic sounds of miss brenda russell Town all men around this is when now bond Again fan back Faded Now your from South pro own honest. Can't worry from this zone of brooklyn you're listening to the face radio. Four cain off today. Aw once one saturday night. The hearts in iraq take us where do key from don to tell me well aware on with your man even if you're a bit again back let's go candidate raw west run free as no nine day. Oh would be your pardon me brought about hardship to know europe a now. I'm sort of confused on amount to famous old lab the bill. You need me. If he had a plan was supposed to be a plan. Chain feeling relent. Make up your own off. Mr body will make care the double responsible here on the face radio full solo brooklyn as we continue our number two. Had to get that to questions for my parents because they requested it. So lovey team. All of you pops. The next show. And i'm bringing back from one of our earliest slow jam shows because someone requested it and i will be so. This is twenty twenty suffolk southern california. The lot think in way to take the kids san squeeze in her nia thought what air languor much allowed to bring the diming room side. A mistake awakes. To put to got what they tell me sir does. This was just so much needed you. Would you pick we come to live off. Baby let to give you this joke so you know we should take it easy. No imposed god. Suit talk era. A take took can do give me sometimes says tablespoon at an conversation for intelligent and a gallon. The us yet. What of respect damn means anything out. Feel the same way less led a hundred days. I love this fast recipes. one main ingredient com said. Whoa you save brown. Sorry for up to mix is a thing to swap a day. You see skies shoot jalousie. Solis wreck a row tonight. I'll nadon talk and say you say outer space. Outerspace league is base with you. Same way that milky way suga backseat gone. Special jew was and short. You say sings winter. Same to me style Think space uh-huh just careless as president of here on the face radio from brooklyn boy. Let me say in the last four minutes. So i have a google home in my home. Obviously an i have alarmed so low. How much time. I have left on the show just like i could have like a going on. I thought i should all the alarms off for once. A one went on. Why i was playing Angie stone the music. So when i yelled across from my room to my bedroom to get it to shut off is sanctum with my ipad. I do the station. Id on and when i got back that's when the roots coming on wilson's on when i was playing it and oh my god. Oh my god the mania. I went inside my head. So now you know live a f why i do not sink your ipad with your google. If you do a live show lease do that. We have thirty minutes left until we sign up for the night. So with that being said i'm going to go with baby face lovers here on jump express. Hey nervous trim glad we don't have to go through this if you don't want to. It's cool stanley. I want it relax. Opportunities tonight Time injury twelve so phrase. Third took don't live time is right on the villain. Sasayama one sue with my baby would just Learn soon draft can do rupture. Thank you keep depth. Say your half dis a chance. To sept food harsh very rough It can get you deep. Coal techique rocket shake brain sieve through. Yes browns aren't i kid. Pay hot deep. Count to step kashmiri new you Shape drag a blue. I lived in kelly from your mother's dead. Yeah adds that the last debbie in side that deep in enrolled in the backseat. We d e the smoke with the windows down flexing license. Have you talked. Standard places side. Yes deep in the back inside a liberal. The back senior look inside a that. A black diaz hassle the bags in that brought the elsa ball diaz how we would just young one enormous. The hey on the window taking the ball. Almost stupid wonder where you are now snapping. Oh maybe leaking Baby all the kiss. That was miss leaving me. How can these so kind to be so cold. On what my whole off off go round pick. K- was this something done to this outcome. Five lang my eyes and suddenly she had this. How can this get your grass without seeing until she we turn off a maiden. Oh ate the wha see off go. Uh-huh asian he saw data. Ah attacked you show a so this show. Hello town town sleep. This added on until come on no more orchestra here on giovanni s with one of his vehicle club on the face radio from the solar brooklyn as we brought you are all vinyl slow jam session here and our time has come to an end we will see all you beautiful people friday at four to six here on the face radio but before we leave you always do our mantras First of all most loves the answers. I have a question. Second of all demand social justice speech for those who've been afflicted by specially burana. Taylor take the time and the patience of love yourself and love one another and when the world is on your shoulders you fell over wound. Just brief jess brief. We're going a close this entire set off with the one l. e. prince. Hi i get here. No i guess i am a little nervous. You make me. I don't what it is humane tonight. That skin getting more here. Let's go near dot com. Can't talk. Doc john okay your lesson which one gives you Cow thing you. Tim may just.

brooklyn greg jay kamran kimmel eugene marine mr cameron Bud ie apple Drew hill Jake briey donald b jumbo jack pat brown brenda russell impreza grayson albie
Little Stanton | 8

1865

31:41 min | 1 year ago

Little Stanton | 8

"William SEWARD secretary stand I'm still at what do you just because you secured me. A new office doesn't mean that has to change congratulations congratulations. You goo- toll all this is for you. It's a it's a Pi Pi dapple dough cherry. Actually I don't remember which you made me Apollo Mrs Stagnant. I commissioned it. Though as a way of saying thank you I wouldn't have this office word for your favorable apple recommendation to President Lincoln that is unusually kind and how other children as young fanning well. What do you want. Arden wouldn't and all the years. We've known each other. You've never once asked about my children. Much less made me a pie what you want. We on the issue of Arman captured slaves so that's what you want to know where them if we arm captured slaves the border states will turn their back on us and without their support. We cannot win the war our numbers. There's are dwindling. We need more troops. Don't forget this subject is a reason Mr Cameron. Your predecessor was asked to resign. The president has made his views on this issue issue. Abundantly clear abundantly clear about the president's views on this issue is that he has no spine. It's your first day. Don't don't make enemies so sue politics. More friends are better than no have no friends. I'm your friend. I only one. I don't know how I ended up settled with you irritating man. Who are you want me to stay away from. Armin captured slaves fine when I want something in return turn I had major record conduct a survey of our current military inventory the majority of our supplies come from our friends in Europe up clothing arms medicine and the light. Yes that's correct. Those items should be manufactured and purchased here on American soil not overseas. I only need European no are it's a statement of support. I don't have to remind you. I don't think of the thin line we're walking here. Domestically and abroad God France and England watch our every move. I'm doing everything I can to negotiate a lasting alliance spitting in the face of our allies on a divisive issue and it will not help the president's call neither will losing the war. We are flat broke. William cannot win a war without money. Let's put put our factories back to work. The flow of gold abroad will pour back into our economy and northern industry will be ignited from this depression. This initiative will exasperate of friends across the pond as much as it will exasperate our enemies below the Potomac Lincoln will never agree to a few support me he will. I don't know do you you want me to take on enslaves off the table or not at the sound of capitulation. I'm signing this supporting you in an effort that might anger England and France France because I don't want you anywhere near the issue of arming slaves not one word about that subject from you or your office. You understand yes. Do you need independent. You're a very difficult man to be friends with. Do you know that Edwin good afternoon to noon Major. Yes close the door behind you. What can I do for you. Sir Grab a pen and paper take this down of course to General Hunter from the Office of the war department message general enroll you are hereby ordered to proceed with the arming of captured slaves sincerely at Wenham Stanton Secretary of war <music> in eighteen sixty five eighteen sixty five is sponsored by Madison Addison Reed in eighteen fifty six the young British chemist William Henry Perkin was trying to synthesize a treatment for malaria in his lab he failed has bakersfield not with Quinine but with a thick dark sludge shoulders slumped and defeat he set to start again and began cleaning the beakers with alcohol miraculously. The sludge transformed armed turning a brilliant purple and this lab accident became the first synthetic dye which perkin named Mall Wien it revolutionized the textile industry and hair-color amazingly though it's as if nothing has changed because women today are still faced with the same two options for colouring their hair outdated at home color or the time and expense expensive salon but there is a third option Madison Reed game changing color. You can do at home and look if you just came from the lawn. What makes Madison Reed Color Unique is that that is crafted in Italy by master colors blend nuances of light and dark cool and warm to create over forty five gorgeous multi tonal shades so find your perfect perfect shade of Madison Dash Reed Dot Com eighteen sixty five listeners get ten percent off plus free shipping on their first color kit with code eighteen sixty five. That's Madison Dash Re Dot Dot Com Promo Code eighteen sixty five eighteen sixty five is supported by you hi. I'm Lindsey Graham executive producer of eighteen sixty five live. I'd like to ask you a favor if you're enjoying eighteen sixty five consider supporting it with a five dollar monthly pledge if you'll join us at eighteen sixty five podcast podcast dot com you'll get the entire original series bendable right now as it appeared on stitcher premium last year completely ad free you'll also get early access to episodes of the new rewritten and reworked series. That's the one you're listening to right now also add free and in addition to that supporters get transcripts annotated by the writers with more or fascinating historical detail a free copy of the original score to eighteen sixty five and special bonus segments that dive deep into our characters history and motivations in their own words as read by the cast but I hope the best perk becoming a supporter of the show is that you will be helping US create the next chapter in our audio storytelling. There are so many stories stories to tell from seventeen sixty five to two thousand sixty five and your support is critical to our success so please go to eighteen sixty five podcast ask dot com and become a patron help us continue our work bringing history alive by going to eighteen sixty five podcast DOT COM EH. Mrs Thank you all Swear Secretary seward upstairs. Would you like a glass walk. I'm fine. I'm fine. I need a moment alone with of course but iron away any in August till I'm gone. He is already entertaining guests. President Johnson and secretary <hes> wills with net on the dog is <music>. I'm Mad I'm mad cer- President Wells Mosley's to stanton. Do not expect to find you to here yet here. We are interrupting no no it was just regaling us with the heroin tale his attack hell of a story. Ray seward tells me you are with him. Stanton just moments before pay not done the door sir. You know lucky you left when you did. Would you be given that fellow more favorable target. Do you mean his beard verse. Belly uh-huh damn good to have you back soon a damn good indeed secretary wills was just filling me in on the details of President Johnson's Johnson's amnesty propose. Is that right yes. I've not read it. Of course I'm still feeling entirely myself after to what you can do it. WHO CAN BLAME YOU MR President. I'm surprised this proposal is being discussed at all especially given the nature of our last conversation yes tale was to seward needs time to recover gentlemen. Let's not thrust him into the middle of a contentious debate so soon it's fine Edwin. I'm fine. I sent for the the president directly did you yes. I'm only here to pay my respects. You brought along your amnesty proposal. I'm afraid I'm the culprit here Mr Steph. It was my suggestion. President Humid me after everything. Mr Sue has been through. He's and a chance to make his views known. I appreciate that Mr President if I recall Mr Stanton that is precisely what we discussed in our private conference last is. I suppose you're right South Mississippi. What are you all right. Yes I am. I Shall I send for a man downstairs. No no need I'm. I'm just a little over well gentlemen. If you don't mind of course you need your rest. You're speedy. Recovery is what matters most. We'll get out of your head. Gentlemen showing this stay of course take care of yourself sued good glad to see those eyes open again. Thank you thank you Gentlemen Mad Mad mad you. My friend look terrible so do you how you feeling better family. It's a difficult. When will you return to your duties tune enough being very taciturn. I'm always very test your the one that doesn't know when to keep his mouth close you send for the President I did. You should have sent for me. I because you're worried about me. You're worried what I might say. I am worried what you might say. It should be people find out denied Lincoln security. It'll would not to mention the work. You're doing reconstruction. William if I had any idea what was going to happened that night. I'd never know. I don't blame you. I blame John Wilkes booth yes but this investigation is about more than indeed when I heard about your military tribunal. Do you really think now is the best time to be suspending. Civil Liberties as president signed off on the treadmill. Did you leave him a choice. Did you discover some means of forcing his AD. Why don't you ask him. Brian mistrial is about reporter John Wilkes litigating the future of this country. If the facts don't play in your favorite will but if they don't TRIPP lite telegram may seventh eighteen sixty five from the executive chamber Washington City the persons implicated in the murder of the late president Abraham Lincoln and the attempted assassination of the honorable William H seward secretary of state are subject to the jurisdiction of unlawfully triable before a Military Commission President President Andrew Johnson Congressman Bingham well well well. It isn't little stamped little stanton. Everyone calls him that back home not anymore they you don't. I'd love to hear the story behind. Look at a major. The story lies in these proportions. He's as short and disagreeable today as he was when I first met him back in Ohio on the debate stage yeah stand on a stool so that his head might be seen over the podium. That's just false as the spurious passage you quoted from the constitution in our first debate. You wanted to lecture me on the Constitution <music> after you yourself intentionally skipped passage to bolster your argument. You've been peddling not lie about me for twenty years. I beat you on the merits of my disputation and that's the end of was it. You'll never own up to what you did. Will you little stanton. Should I excuse myself yes. I'll take my leave mister secretary. I never thought I'd see the day when a wig the Democrat would sit down and solidarity buying the legacy of a Republican. He's a strange times. We live appaling even yet here here we are we are indeed well. I'd like to go first if that's all right by. You fine provided you don't skip anything to important. Thank you for agreeing to support my reconstruction plan. I appreciate your loyalty. I'm here out of loyalty to Senator Hale. Not The absence of the Negro vote in the Friedman's bill is a bitter pill to swallow for you and the rest of the party. Incremental progress is better than none at all tobacco. Republicans understand this then. I hope you'll understand. We have more immediate problems. The Negro suffrage Johnson wants to give the south amnesty that would kill Lincoln's reconstruction plan. Yes it's the Friedman who will suffer most if Johnson pardons the south the war department will be forced to take back the land. We've given to the Friedman and return them to the plantation. Owners bomber's not to mention if the southern states were admitted to the Union we'd lose all power to override Johnson's veto he can block Negro suffrage which is why we have have to block his efforts. There's no legislative solution I can offer you stanton congresses and recess means you have plenty of free time on your hands free time for what Lincoln appointed the Judge Advocate of the Union army years back did he not he has. I told him he was out of his mind. Knew nothing about military law at the at the time yes but what about now well well. My Wife says I'm quick study. I want you to prosecute my military. Tribunal Miss Debenham with John Wilkes booth dead. Our only only hope approving the southern conspiracy lies with this tribunal. You'll be working alongside judge advocate hold but you'll be my eyes and ears inside the courtroom. If we prove Jefferson Davis and the confederate leadership responsible for the murder of Abraham Lincoln the path to amnesty will be blocked. Johnson won't be able to part <music> south now without making himself trader or an accomplice. This is all assuming you can prove it and assuming I'm willing to help you <unk>. I skip the line Bingham in our debate. It hurt my argument so I skipped over it so as not to weaken my thesis finally admitting to cheating after all these years admitting that you are better lawyer than help me all right. We'll stat of course in eighteen sixty five five is sponsored by Bama's. No one thinks about socks often and why should they. They're an afterthought a bad gift but you probably wear them every day and let me tell you. Something when you find a good pair you start thinking about socks and how you need to get rid of all the others I need to clean out my sock drawer because it's clear I'm only wearing bombed us us the most comfortable socks in the history of feet they're made from super soft natural cotton and every pair comes with arch support a seamless toe and a cushion foot bed. That's comfy comfy but not too thick with many colors patterns lengths and styles Mama's look great at the gym at the office and out on the town or stuck under a desk in a recording studio. You like mine are right now by your Mambas at Bomba's dot com slash eighteen sixty five today and get twenty percents off your first purchase that's B. O.. M. B. S. dot com slash eighteen sixty five for twenty percent off bombs dot com slash eighteen sixty five telegram may eighth eighteen sixty five five MR president. I remain eager to get back to the business of the state. I look forward to our meeting this afternoon. In deeply appreciate your accommodating my condition by bringing ringing the Cabinet Secretary of State for the Shooting Death Stanton Mr President I believe it is high nighttime resolved the issue of amnesty once and for all so we can move on to more important issue those lands belong to the Friedman's bureau. That's tantamount to saying they belong to you. Promises have been and Mr Wells promises must be kept secretary seward. What is your opinion well? I've reviewed the amnesty proposal and it's an excellent compromise. Mr President William it's time to reunite the country and when amnesty is the best path for Amnesty is the best pet that are you out of your mind me finish. I've also finished reviewing the evidence. Mrs. Stanton has compiled it gave me pause Mr the president well. I'd like to hear the evidence so would I wouldn't after we put the Negroes into the fight. The rebels began to see the writing on the wall. They didn't have the strength to best us on the field of battle so they took the fight to another front clandestine warfare Mr President Clandestine Warfare Yes sir last February Jefferson Davis and the confederate Congress established a million dollar fund bankroll the C._S._S. S. The confederate secret service aspiring operating out of Canada. What in Tom Nation does Canada have to do with this? The Union has no jurisdiction this diction over Canadian banks confederate money flows in and out undetected Mr President the C._S._S. launched multiple incursions over the last year most notably the rate. It's dogs. They started the fires in New York. During the elections last fall they even tried to assassinate president can with pestilence <music> by infecting blankets with smallpox Hashed Almighty. You knew these attacks taking place of course we knew how our agents penetrated the C._S._S.. As a result we were able to thwart a majority of their plots. This was known secret in certain circles of President Lincoln's administration Mister. Lincoln himself was where the C._S._S. activities yet. No one in the cabinet chose to inform me the Navy secretary certain circles as Mr Seward said for obvious reasons since we felt secrecy was paramount. Tell them the rest were these operations all follow the same pattern money from the confederate fund is deposited into Canadian banks. Thanks C._S._S.. Agents withdraw the money in Canada and crossed the border from the north he attacks April fourteenth or no different. We have a letter that proves booth both met regularly with contacts in the confederate government. We also know missed booth made multiple trips to Canada in the weeks leading up to the attack at the same. Nothing boost conspirators here it is Johnny Sarah whom we believe is the architect of booths operations is known C._S._S.. Operative Lewis Pain Powell on the man who attacked Secretary seward word is a former confederate soldier and a suspected C._S._S.. Agent additionally Canadian Bankbook and Mr Boothe name was found in the hotel room of a man named George at axelrod the German fallow the one who has meant to kill me. Yes Mr President if the true depth of this conspiracy is under to the public you cannot pardon Jefferson Davis or his cabinet. You cannot pardon the confederate generals who presided over the bloody insurgency and you cannot pardon the wealthy plantation owners owners who funded this in cities rebellious my suet it must be said the president's executive order does not guarantee amnesty to any of the classes of individuals you just mentioned yes Mr Mr Wells which is why I am implying towards the compromise however politically it is prudent. We wait for the tribunal to conclude before announcing anything public once we've seen the full facts we evaluate position Mr Stanton I defer to Secretary seward trust his judgment dwells. I have no objections. Only one caveat President Johnson should select the tribunal tribunal jurors to avoid the perception of buys. I suggest an even split of Republicans to Democrats excellent suggestions all right then should it seems is your druthers or my brothers. We wait for the tribunal before moving forward. Come as dwells. Let's leave Suid to his rich of course sir good luck with your tribunal stem. This is a mistake. I'm giving you a chance to prove your conspiracy. If you're successful you'll have my support and if I'm not Johnson's amnesty order is a reasonable path that piece awesome sound like Gideon well. It's a good compromise. I won't needlessly throw away everything we've done over one issue. This is the reason for everything we've you've done. This is the reason President Lincoln is buried in the ground or is it because you denied him secure. If it didn't happen that night at the Ford would have happened somewhere else. You may be right then and what do you want from me. I want you to stop this subterfuge what we're calling it now. Detaining of innocence suspension of civil liberties liberties military occupation of the south. What term would you prefer us on your first day in office? You made me a promise God's sake and the very very next thing you did is stabbed me in the lest you forget William arm and captured slaves is what turned the tide of the war but it wasn't enough was it wasn't meant to patient you had to to push Lincoln on citizenship to and when he heeded your advice when he spoke the words in public for the first time that people think in with a bullet to the back of the head and there's a cost to your changed after everything if you don't realize that by now I fear for what will become a there's something you need to know about President Johnson about who he was with the night of the assassin stop whatever he's done. It doesn't doesn't matter he's the Do I have your word yes. That's another promise you've made me see that you don't break this one. <hes> telegram may eighth eighteen sixty five the trial conspirators will be commenced before military commission on. May ninth and if the same facts are brought out that have been disclosed in the preliminary examinations the magnitude of the plot will astonish Donald the whole country. There is no doubt if Jefferson Davis last act was the murder of the president it will fix very accurately the place which the rebellion will occupy in History Edwin M Stanton Secretary of war. How's the case coming along Mr Bingham. That's actually why I'm here to finish a preliminary review of the the evidence and I have my doubts quite a bit of conflicting testimony. The biggest challenge is far as I see it is making the tribunal jurors understand the complexities cities confederate clandestine operations next to say nothing of the particulars of John Wilkes booth and his team of shadowing figures. It's a tall order stand Mr Bingham. It is critical improve. The southern conspiracy I understand means for the avoidance of doubt we need guilty verdicts booth conspirators across the board. That's not all we need in addition into guilty verdicts. We need to draw a direct line from John. Wilkes booth to Jefferson Davis and the C._S._S. like I said it's a tall order. President Johnson wants to list of tribunal jurors by the end of the day. Now I would like your input. Take friendly jurors. That's my input of course but I was thinking. I want you to select them. I'm I'm the prosecuting attorney. You want me to handpick the jury. Yes I do as Johnson going to have an opinion on this jazz. He'll want the members of the jury to be impartial which which is a euphemism for Democrat now for obvious reasons. We cannot let that happen. He's going to reject the list Stanton. I don't think so but if he does it won't matter you can why not because before I give it to him. I'm going to leak it to the press if he tries to win a fear of force me to add more. Democrats will look like he's politicizing the tribunal. Aren't you concerned. This is a bit unethical on ethical Mr Bingham. If you want to win. Sometimes you have to stack the deck or or skip a line in a public debate. Now you don't forget you won the debate but your candidate than bureau and lost the election. That's because Van Buren didn't have you in his corner. Now deliver me list. Mr When Lincoln floated you as a replacement for Cameron he came to me. I suppose because you and I both come up at the same time in Ohio. Ohio wanted to know what kind of man you would. What did you tell him. I told him I didn't care for you. The feeling was mutual at the time. I mean I also told him. You were the sort of man who knew how to get things done and that above all no. I didn't always agree with you. I believed you were a patriot. Two years later. Lincoln attributed your hiring to my council. Thank because he said he couldn't have survived the war without being more. You're trying to take credit for work. No but I am taking credit for putting you where you are today. Don't make me regret <music> <music> Mars President Lincoln just spoken to major relate to a message did he. He says you disagree with my recommendation for a military strategy vehemently disagree. He also says that you told him him to tell me that I am damned fool though he would repeat the words out loud he had he had to write them down on scrap of paper and handed to me Mr Lincoln Damn Fool Mars no sir that's a really but if you proceed with this course of action there will be strong evidence to the contrary as as I told the major when it comes to matters governing Mr Stanton is nearly always right and generally the sort of man who says what he means. Thank you Sir though I have my doubts this time round. I believe a change to our current strategies president so I would like you to write down your thoughts on the matter Sir to to help me understand your position. When would you like me to deliver the report now now. Sir Yes our yes Mr Mr President by the Way Marco. May I speak while you're writing distract you sponsor doc. I want you to know give some thought to our conversation last what conversation we were talking about. Using the supreme for you are the rock on which the waves of this conflict beating I honestly do not know how no you are not crushed beneath their wings. I can think of no man more deserving of the honor of a Lifetime appointment than you Mr Stanton and so after the war time comes. I'll be nominate don't want to say thank you. Thank thank you Mr President. I know it's been a livestream. Yes Sir but that's not why I'm doing. I'm doing this for one reason. One reason only because you've burned now when you finished with that report what up that piece of paper and pleased positive in the nearest wastebasket serve then ordered the generals to perceive with my strategy as I instructed you to do what was the point of me writing it. I always feel better after I've written out. My thoughts dented is my frustrations have been hope you will to send the order Mr Stanton right away. Take him you are very important to me and this country country will not disappoint. I know you won't in in eighteen sixty. Five is an airship production starring Jeremy Schwartz as Edwin Stanley also featuring infers Shawn Hannidy Ace r Bruce Elliott j Michael Tatum Robert Column and Lindsey Graham you created by Stephen Walters and Eric are directed by Robert McCulloch by Stephen Walters executive producer Lindsey Graham Co executive compressors Eric Agila bought mccollum and Stephen Walters music and sound design by Lindsey Graham to find out more about eighteen sixty five to who eighteen sixty five podcast dot com or find us on facebook and twitter at eighteen sixty five podcast and if you're a fan of the show please consider supporting US become a patron at Katri on dot com slash eighteen sixty five podcast new episodes air weekly and look for special inside the episode interviews with the Writers and producers of the series to find out more about the real history behind eighteen sixty five <music>.

president President Lincoln President President Johnson Mr President William it Secretary MR President Mrs. Stanton John Wilkes Jefferson Davis Mr Mr Wells Mr Stanton Mr Cameron Amnesty stanton William SEWARD President Wells Mosley murder executive Ray seward
Bionic Boogie NYC with Mister Cam-Run // 20/01/21

The Face Radio

1:59:30 hr | 2 d ago

Bionic Boogie NYC with Mister Cam-Run // 20/01/21

"From the so the brooklyn. You're listening to the face. Radio Welcome to boogie. Am i say with mr cameron for the first show of twenty twenty one feeling good on this wednesday evening here in new york city kicking off slightly tonight kicking off with devon morrison is instrumental version. Track now got plenty of life saving got groups here at guys as a lot of boogie on this guy. Parents feeling good. Ooh ooh i ca third the burn listening to the new mad honey through this track treasure every sunset third labels space gripes. Everyone in the chat room here on the face radio. P- matt newman big chest. Astray chess jeremy. From the blocked third the need big chain not said there. You'll double sod of that record too. So that pretty quickly. I think excessive man. Brian up with type cloud monday blue as well for the last two hours here on the face radio with her show. Follow your bliss. Ladies and gentlemen mrs gregory porter to biotic boogie cam half Version of version. Of course love come. One for covered by barry big listening to the dan fraser version of it. Those nice sleazy horns sunshine vibes of Son steady as we head into this edition of game. I say dig in the vibes here until ten pm. You want to jump on the chat. Jump onto chat dot the face. Radio dot com Playing a real mixed bag to knock and john brown a bit. But it's all going to be good Excess oil. The australian family chewed in big south declared speaks out shouts to any maxwell no off Ask which is super as make it. Took s god off with the here for the first episode of twenty twenty one here in the face radio with mr cameron until ten pm. Stay with us can make it took and yeah from the feel talk the direction to say says it says it. Oh champ outscored and me for instance and state parks moving in the right direction. Which i think we all feel. We are Says it our own. The rich stop with got bridge with track turn to love is head took sky. The smog balloon spread. Jon allen one. Aw you're dealing took me turn on your off burn S china jackson's either. Reading you can buy only boogie keeping him even and swing with a happy face of prompting base for love race. Keeping lock right here. Giants is some groove moving on the on good records full. Oh big south to mitzi the cat channeling those sunshine vibes here. Bonnie game i see in the heart of a very cold day sunshine vibes. He it's nine. Earn some groove and when have been on go back but you do time this circuit some the johnsons some groove move on. It is big chess to exchange in. Make sure you check out. The lex layer on friday nights here on the face. Radio drew mixed up the group joy with their track. The time is rise sprain at which through we do believe Snake terminator john league. Desperately the girl you in steamy just excuse wants would you want matter. Let's doesn't matter what you give me the me. Only what's happening dot the you talk run. It's true do night like that. Be show just you see you. Kill me with me expand on that you want me leave the thing. God be plumped dr berg. A girl part you do. it's true want. Do you want me pot when you one and night this race. Michael stealing with these track. Desperate picking up some mj vibes on that one. Picking up some jerk lives in the last one to next up we've got some some other obscure boogie stuff's and jordan track. No question about it left right here boogie. But john morality. I did down the bush. Uh-huh Shots to billy to casey to other imos well the whole blue sun crude getting close to the alma here in bonnie boogie and my save the first show of twenty twenty one joined the vibes. We got plenty more to come jazz defunct to boogie to soul reggae. Today to discuss. The house is bonded bookish. Forecast is boogie Free burn when. I was down easter now. And you uh-huh forecast you'll my one and only on. Rca records big bed style. Boogie favorite this one hitting few album cats. Though bye from the soul of brooklyn you are listening to the radio. The sounds unlimited. Touch prelude this track. No one could love me quite the way you do. Ninety two shop. Shot some way. I know you do do a a. You do may go the way me jim. What a track unlimited touch on private records combat that label. Your i said no no to ehlers on ninety three times on the back of that one on the back of the cover. Gimme eighty three eighty two perfect. We'll be times group the way the way that we've got some boogie out of chicago with did not from blue's clues for the very best and soul funk reggae rocket blues rock and roll. Join me every sunday here on the face retail five. pm eastern and ten pm gmt if it's gonna groove or in some way down low then you'll hear on blues in groups from london solo portland now ontario what to hi side to side. Talk how old much too Home you star optus often no ahead also then bad era. Oh one work look little girl. turk on. Take about two years now head to do all anything man. Don't do then. The work of fair avocado old only live for special expand will thank you. Fruit and vegetables us want to see no screen about burrow The one dj danger who bonnie boogie myc. With mr cameron time for another half. Now laugh at that point where. I'm not sure what records coming next. Strapping get ready. Here we go. We gotta land the mothership food. Some interesting interesting stuff. Net lost half hour. We got some bates guy. Got some souls. Well the amazing record. Dan kyw small movements on rhythm section. Third track moving ext. You're on the by alex new york with the camera on a man. Because be time for some rene ghia falls this guy stop kevin off happens. Don that span Out hot ending. I walk to palm now. Rotted from the group chic and cam on bionic boogie. Time to go to church. Don't hold listen to me if you feel good. Just can't make it if you feel like you're just take home. Dogged you if the whole cold your midnight. Day seth whole dawn he will give you. Don't let it this whole if mug and bottle of sake ya with all your friends forsake just don don your if your whole dawn very in your home dawn. He had you think he was so way it would. You have heard that the end of his word he was so. If you don't listening this case you will find you. Your bad yourself. You'll ever need if your own leading the way. Go with your day lennon. Feed your friends here. Go if you're if you're just whole let him be eaten effort day. Don't forget what you have just the test poll. Don't you don't need no don't all you need is can i say this hugh don't need no need this hope. Just hope darth. Can i sing it from class. Hold hold hold hold through. You don't have a friend he'll be with you to the whole when they turned their back on. You know what to do. Hold on norman. Wakes the revelations hold on quality red groove gospel. Call it what you want this feeling. Let him be your friend of just own pulled on hold recently. We heard the sad news that came exit passed away much love peace and love to all these family thoughts here from bonnie poggi. M y say big sesa randy hobo chefs. Brian speak chess to all the modern funk family excessive star creature teams awada. Play a couple of kmox tracks after this. Hold act steer peril. you're did borough Ask a iphone home me yet bro. Mind that's bad. Glad there part back to the mega supreme family as well whiskey. Next track came back for more astor inside. A know gra fog. Fry a big need for me. Ask girl wound. This is long change. My may want you say. Thank you for Booze in god so much a A yeah climax power. I pay gone too soon. Love and respect to all the family from bed stuy boogie also bonnet boogie piece. This well the applicant popular with cam as we bust your but with the biotic forty for your mom body and so get down. Get live and get funky business. True school school legal beagle baked massive me boy. I can't just can't last this day. Used as a break that you know. Thank awfully we've been come. Expect to deal. Doc Turn bill burr big says to great guy. It is odd do its. It's thing to witness wing tank can hang on. The bell rang a wall street with mom. If slowest wins the break free cooking feet. Don't fail me can't seem droplets. This is what does follow no interest rates again. 'cause i don't beginning big. We come across the border. The water down the cut out though getting nine back at them wise guy. Smart the sun. Don't who one the taste snippet. You never stop him up when things got the they got in. It ain't no stopping skin now. Even puppy overstressed over trying on the on cooking like you'll be crying. Raise sunset for days all in the coup. They don't not flavor tastes. I love the slam on ask behavior. Call me up on the ground. Like chart feast. What the that for the body. The high neck fifteen minutes. I'll be off duty. Visit civil cost premium book temple loss mental from move. You get the best mac out the out blacklists playing cats a bad one nickel get thumped. Been hot more. Then grab my shit. Don't know you don't give me that back now. You know needs the front very note. Wouldn't an all right pay tanja zip love x. johnson doc coming towards the end of finding nyc this week for the first show. Twenty twenty one. Thanks for listening. Thanks for tuning in. We've got one more track to play. Everyone's feeling good. Twenty twenty one is going to be better than twenty twenty a guarantee that Thanks soon Talk an.

mr cameron bonnie boogie devon morrison matt newman mrs gregory porter dan fraser Jon allen chess Snake terminator john league dr berg brooklyn john brown mitzi Dan kyw rene ghia Brian maxwell new york city barry Bonnie
A Very Devil | 7

1865

34:56 min | 1 year ago

A Very Devil | 7

"Telegram April fourteenth eighteen sixty five President Lincoln in the face of a treacherous and dangerous enemy. Please do not expose the nation to the consequences of any disaster to yourself. I implore you to exercise caution Edwin M Stanton Secretary Secretary of war evening Mars President Lincoln. How's your health well enough Sir Landy? Did you know made you accurate bend in iron poker a pardon me sir. Why would you ask such a question? I have seen the man Ben five higher poker's one right after the other right over his arm. What is this the order you issued Mars? You don't want me leaving the white the house without security detail. Well No sir if I may you're right. Sir Mitch accustomed from time to time being right imprudence is unbecoming of a precedent the new have decided not to attend the Ford this evening. Uh No no problem is already have my tickets plus. I think it will do the people some good to see me out in public enjoying myself given General Greg no longer ten. I should still like a competent guard by my side behidn since he can bend pogue rovers arm. I thought major would be the man what is this an order of my own for major record. You know where to find the major. Why not deliver it yourself chain of command? The majors interest occupied this evening Sir along with the rest of my department. We haven't a man to spare all not one MR president as you know tonight. General Sherman will be advancing on one of the last remaining rebel strongholds major accurate will be passing along important dispatches to and from the front between multiple regimens all across the Mason Dixon. We have a perimeter to defend a curfew to enforce thousands of seditious prisoners was under our watch. You're in the city. My men do not have time to go to the theater. My answer is no no I suppose if anyone wants to me on just have to go through through Mrs Lincoln I my health is failing me. Ellen has implored me repeatedly to take the day after Richmond fell. When I handed ended you my resignation you asked me to remain by your side till the job of reconstruction was done and despite Ellen's wishes I obliged to you I thank you for? I cannot do this without nor are you. In the face of a dangerous enemy is <music> over with respect sir. It is not please do not expose the nation to the consequences of any disaster to yourself my promise the first lady Sir what about my order you have no military escort you must remain at all Mars sometimes with rules one must well do like the major does with his iron poker's. I suppose tonight Mars <music> the eighteen sixty five eighteen sixty five is sponsored by Madison Reed in eighteen fifty six the young British chemist William Henry Perkin was trying to synthesize a treatment for malaria in his lab he failed his beakers filled well not with quinine but with a thick dark sludge shoulders slumped and defeat he set to start again and began cleaning the beakers with alcohol miraculously the sludge transformed turning a brilliant purple and this lab accident became the first synthetic Thaddeus die which perkin named Malvina it revolutionized the textile industry and hair-color amazingly though it's as if nothing has changed because women today are still faced with the same two options for colouring their hair outdated at home color or the time Heim expensive a salon but there is a third option Madison Reed game changing color you can do at home and look as if you just came from the salon. What makes Madison Reed Color Unique is that it's crafted in Italy by master colorist who blend nuances of light and dark cool and warm to create over forty five gorgeous multi tonal shades so find your perfect shade of Madison Dash Re Dot Com eighteen sixty five listeners get ten percent off plus free shipping on their first color kit with code eighteen sixty five? That's Madison Dash Re Dot Com Promo code eighteen sixty five eighteen sixty five is supported by you hi. I'm Lindsey Graham executive producer eighteen sixty five. I'd like to ask you a favor if you're enjoying eighteen sixty five five consider supporting it with a five dollar monthly pledge if you'll join us at eighteen sixty five podcast dot com you'll get the entire original series Benjamin right now as it appeared on stitcher premium last year completely ad free you'll also. So get early access to episodes of the new rewritten and reworked series. That's the one you're listening to right now also add free and in addition to that supporters get transcripts annotated by the writers with more fascinating historical detail a free copy of the original score to eighteen eighteen sixty five and special bonus segments that dive deep into our characters history and motivations in their own words as read by the cast but I hope the best perk becoming a supporter of the show is that you will be helping US create the next chapter in our audio storytelling. There are so many stories to tell from seventeen sixty five to two thousand sixty five and your support is critical to our success so please go to eighteen sixty five podcast dot com and become a patron help us continue our work bringing history alive by going to eighteen sixty five podcast DOT COM Secretary Stanton given that general grant is unable to attend the performance of our American cousin this evening. I show require additional security to accompany my party to the that's enough <music>. I cordially requested the services of Major. Thomas Sincerest regards president. I said that's enough. Are you going to explain yourself. No one can know about this major. No one mm-hmm not now not ever Hanmi that order will not openly define me now. Why didn't you grant the requests? I demand to know yours is not to make demands of me son. You knew he was dangerous if you knew they were rebel agents in the capital of course I knew everyone knew why didn't you send me because he doesn't listen. He never listened took the air nightly to know that alone strolling about the streets of the capital in the wee hours of the morning. It's a wonder they didn't get to him sooner. I didn't send you because he had no business being in a place like that because he is the president because I hope fear might persuade him to better judgment. I've been there Sir I could have done something. If it is the will of Providence I die by the hand of an assassin. It must be so his word <music> begged him not to go fuse me so I refused him. You have to come forward. I am not responsible for a man with a death wish getting what he wanted. If you won't I will you would betray me. I'm trying to protect you. I'm trying to keep you out of shackles. If you come forward now you can claim negligence and then resigned resignation than the MONTOC prison <music> people deserve to know the truth sir. Do you know why I have this office major while you're standing here. Today is my second in command secretary seward recommended you. Yes yes yes yes. That's a story but it's not the truth. The truth is president. Lincoln ordered my predecessor Mr Cameron to prepare a comprehensive military report for Congress Cameron front-load at that report with a recommendation to arm captured Slaves Lincoln knew it would ruffle too many feathers so he struck any mention of arming slaves before sending to Congress but the original report still found its way to the press on edited. Mr Lincoln was furious and Mr Cameron found himself in early retirement. The truth is forced that little tidbit into the plan in the first place and when Lincoln pushback I ran the article on the paper Cameron. He fell on the sword but I received a promotion and we used used Negro slaves to put those rebels on their backs. Sometimes major echoed the truth doesn't matter at all. I won't help you cover this with Lincoln. Gone who will hold the South Accountable <music> Andrew Jackson the cowards and the Senate of the sectarian bigots of the court there is no one left major only this office in those command. No one else knows it was about this new secretary soared after I left the office that night before the attack I dropped in on them. I mean to vent my frustrations. Can't he be trusted sewer tonight ally stand from me. If you do this Sir if we do this we're vulnerable. You better be absolutely certain that you trust seward because a piece of is he can educate US book trust him same as I trust you. Trust me then hand that order. So have you seen this gentleman from the New York Daily Tribune quote the southern rebellion is dead as the spirit of the white man in the south not since the capture of Jerusalem by Titus. Has there been such utter ruin the planting season swiftly passing on improved leaving large sections of the country exposed next winter to the horrors of actual famine the farmers will not plan so they're afraid their lands will be taken from them by the bureau is a man of Freemen won't go near a plantation for fear of Rian slave damn mess we gotta get this. Damn thing nipped in the bud and faster laxton just returned from Virginia. I'll let him fill you in on the details. Thank you Mr Stanton. Mr President Famine is not our most. Pressing concern what in the hell could be more precious than than famine violence against the freemen Sir it's hell on the ground. Mr President held for the Union men trying to maintain order in death to the Negro who dare step forward and demand his freedom. We have to do something so Mr President. The people of the south need to know where they stand clarity will assuage these tensions grant people general amnesty. We've been down this road before wells. Those lands belong to the free those lands belong to the plantation owners in the south. Mr Stanton's reconstruction plan is a recipe for one thing and one thing alone more bloodshed. Let the Negro prove himself man by man and state by state president. If I may go ahead Mister Langston the Negro has already proven himself primarily on the field of battle where he fought bled and died for American liberty. I recruited those men hundreds of them to fight in the war on a promise that on the other side there would be justice. I we must have unity without of justice. There can be no unity. You're right about one thing MR wells a disenfranchised populace is a recipe for bloodshed bear that in mind when you consider the future of the Negro people at about the poor white Sir the the poor whites in the south. Where do they fit into all this? You See folks come from North Carolina and Tennessee. They don't own any land. They have an oppressed anybody. Their homeland has been tone to pieces by this vile vile disgusting war your family and friends coming home in pine boxes by the dozens and four what there's no forty acres waiting for them no mule neither now. I'm sensitive to the Negro struggle. I am in fact. I don't think anyone is more sensitive to it than me. I just don't want us to forget about the poor whites in this conversation. We haven't forgotten them. Sir The benefits of the Freedman's bureau are for all the people of the south black an white that includes schools hospitals food clothing and most importantly land. I wasn't aware that region briefings Mr President you'll learn all manner of things and surely the president can be forgiven for overlooking mimmo. Oh Mr Stanton heavy large the head Mr Langston heavy lies that got him head indeed Sir from what I understand. You're in a mire of President Jackson that's right. I got a picture of old hickory hanging on my wall at at home right above the fireplace best damn president this country's ever had in my view a true champion of the common man though not the Indian yes well. It was a difficult time in our history Mr Langston and this isn't did you know I have any blood in me Mr president is that right. Yes my father was white. My mother was partying the Negro. So what does that make you confused Sir you now. THAT'S NIECE LAPPER MR president hundreds of years from now. How do you think history will remember Andrew Jackson? I suppose that's for them to decide who viewed as the great a father of the Democratic Party in the champion of the common man or the traitor who went back on every promise this country ever made to its indigenous people Mr President. I think you could be greater than Andrew Jackson Ever was plus. You have an opportunity to succeed Jackson failed you can make good on this country's promise to the Friedman and provide for the common down south. If you do that Sir a hundred years from today it won't be President Jackson hanging above the fireplace a future presidents it will be stanton. Yes Sir deploy more troops to the south immediately. Yes the President I'll lean on the provisional governors down down there. Make sure they're enforcing the law and supporting the bureau heck you Mr President get those negroes planting straight away now. It'll be all gentlemen. Who's the dough face now? You're growing a beard as well. Would you hold my breath weld on Mr Langston family want what is it don't make an enemy of a mercer Langston. He's the president whatever we hope to accomplish whatever good hope to do. It'll be decidedly more difficult to the stance against us so he <music> in eighteen sixty five is sponsored by away. If you travel much you know it's often the little things that make it easier. The tiny details the thoughtful planning and Small Mall conveniences that turn a business trip or vacation into something worthwhile and enjoyable when looking for improvements a great place to start is with your luggage. It's literally holding everything together on your trip so make sure it's lightweight but durable and fold small innovations and features does that make your travel smoother introducing a way the perfect suitcase thoughtfully designed durable with features to keep you organized an on the go I got to Chris my new away bags on along to leg flight with the layover in San Francisco getting in and out of the airport was a breeze. Breeze because the four three sixty degree wheels glide effortlessly even my five year old was able to push the bags around with these might also has built in charger so I'm not always hunting for outlet in it has locked the T._S._A.. Won't question plus. I know that a way we'll fix or replace my suitcase asap. If anything breaks so find out what your luggage should be for twenty dollars off a suitcase visit away travel dot com slash eighteen sixty five and use promo code eighteen sixty five during checkout. That's a way travel dot com slash 1865 Promo Code eighteen sixty five for twenty dollars off your next best suitcase among discerning reasonable people the question must be asked why has Andrew Johnson not publicly announced his plans for reconstruction perhaps waiting for marching orders from the very man with whom he colluded to secure the Office of the President Jefferson Davis you think of Lincoln was sitting in the White House those vultures in the press would do him this way. It's not fair. They are the way they treat me well. I don't think any other president in the history of our country has been treated this unfairly. There's more sir the union be damned. President Johnson is concerned with one thing and one thing alone his popularity below the Mason Dixon awesome. Lei already hail back. When I was a senator in Tennessee I spoke out against a session for God's sake doesn't that count for something it does in my books people down South threw rocks at me wells my own people? Call me a and e the to- Mr President. If you don't announce a reconstruction plan and soon they'll call you worse than that and I promised I'd wait for the tribunal to conclude before moving forward Stanton's tribunals at Trojan Horse Mr President and was waiting inside Negro Suffrage Fridge Stanton succeeds in proving this conspiracy you will not be able to partner South Not Davis not the confederate generals and not the plantation owners if they're not re admitted to the government and soon the black vote will become the law of the land and if that happens you will never ever see a second term suggest. I'd do fire Sir do it now before the tribunal is announced publicly once it's under way you will not be able to know Mr President if this tribunal succeed made stanton the promise wells. I can't go back on it now. Why what does he have on you Mr President? I have to let this tribunal run. It's cost. Let's leave it at that. Perhaps there's there's another way I understand you're in a very precarious position on the subject of Amnesty in between a rock and a hog places what I am I pushed too hard on amnesty alienate the north but I don't push hard enough. The South burn earn me at the state and reach across the answer strike a compromise with the opposition the radical Republicans don't WanNa compromise on amnesty the moderates will if we capture their support. You won't need the radicals at all. What about Mars? I don't think he's who's interested in a compromise. Either suggest we deliver Edwin Stanton Trojan horse of our own. Tell me the truth now. Gentlemen what do you you think of my suit a handsome suit expertly terret thank you Mr Whales Mr Langston. It's fine suit Mr President not so sure some interesting right about it stanton then. What do you think I don? A suit is a suit to me Sir yes but what do you think what's your opinion of. I have no opinion that's first Mr Langston. Did you know Taylor in and is one of the world's oldest professions and suppose that stands to reason Taylor's been there from the very beginning of time cutting and sewing in him in the way to civilization sir. Why are we talking about Taylor and we are talking about Taylor Mr Stanton because you are talking to a Taylor well you know I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth? Hell my parents couldn't read. He didn't have a pot to Piss in save a ramshackle log cabin my daddy built with his hands. After after he died my mother sold me and my brother into indentured servitude and I'll tell you something this delay extant slavery's hard. There's no doubt but indentured servitude ain't no walk in the park. Neither I ran away as fast as I could and I never looked back see when my father died I was very young. My only memory of him is the suit he was wearing the last time I saw him strange first thing to remember I guess but ever since I've been working my fingers to the bone trying to recreate that suit while other kids were outside in the creek I was inside fussing with my mom is so in Kit. Learning the art of the Taylor taught myself how to read and write by the time I was seventeen. I opened my first tailor shop. By the time I was twenty two. I was the mayor of Greenville Tennessee how and look at me now sitting here in the White House the most powerful man in America Mr President if there's one thing I've learned from all my years as a Taylor. It's this when something ain't right. It's always it's best to make an alteration secretary. Welles thank you so for that lovely introduction and the end the debate between us on the issue of reconstruction always comes back to this. How will treat the south with leniency or punishment you know? So where Mr Laxton and I stand ups we can meet in the middle after Langston. Would you do the honest I do. Solemnly swear and presence of Almighty God that I will henceforth faithfully support protect and defend the constitution of the United States and the Union of the states thereon a loyalty oath any southerner who signs this will receive a full part and their land full party Mr Stanton that includes the restoration of confiscated land Mr President I have in my hand a directive from General Howard this order will initiate the process of resettling the Friedman. The bureau is ready Sir. All we require now is your signature. Tell him the risk whales the president and I have identified certain classes of individuals who will be exempt from pardon confederate EH officers government officials plantation owners and the like their lands will belong to the bureau. How does that sit with you? Mr Langston Mr President with respect to the intentions of your proposals areas of provisions here that grants you the right to pardon persons belonging into the accepted classes. That's right in fact unless I'm mistaken. This document says you have the authority to pardon whomever you like president and I both feel pardons should be liberally extended win warrant then. This isn't a compromise at all it gives you caught blocks. It's no matter the result of my tribunal. It's a good deal stanton. A good deal for the poor whites a good deal for the Friedman and a good deal for you. I'd like a moment's gentlemen. Give us the room Mr President Mr Langston. Yes leave General Howard's directive on the President's desk. Please of course Mr President. We had a deal sir. Don't get your Dander Up Stanton. This is a mighty fine compromised. The moderate Republicans like it Democrats who like it heroin secretaries suet wakes up. He'll like it too frankly. I'm surprised you don't what's to stop you from abusing your powers apartment what's to stop you from denying the Friedman their land in true nothing that we don't have a deal. You and I are something of an arranged marriage stanton. I didn't choose news. You and you didn't choose me. John Wilkes booth thrust us together when he pulled the trigger on that baby. Derringer is any successful marriage as Mrs Johnson likes to say is built on two pillars trust and love now concede loves out the window between you and me but I still have hope for trust. Mrs Johnson says the best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them. Will you trust me. What do you suppose Mrs Johnson Jose About Trust? When I tell her of a Star I beg your pardon Mrs. Stanton to say trust takes six years to build moments to shatter in a lifetime to repair unsure Mrs Johnson agree and don't like the turn? This conversation is taking wife to say nothing of the press. I wasn't born in the woods to be scared by now. Stanton you blow on me the press I reckon I'll just deny it. Write it off as bogus news might be able to spend a yawn the press to stave off your ruin might be are you able to concoct some fabrication to preserve your marriage. When I tell the attorney general you asked me to obstruct my investigation into John Wilkes booth on your behalf? There's not a lie in the world. Save Your Presidency recency you Lou I've not been clear with you Mr President so let me be clear now. You will not send this proposal to the attorney in general you will not move forward with amnesty in any form until I say otherwise you will do precisely nothing. We clear say <music> so I know you understand all we clear. We're clear good aside the directive aw thank you. What am I supposed to tell Welles tele whatever you like? I need a legitimate reason for not moving swollen otherwise it'll raise suspicion in the cabinets divided on this issue it split right down the middle. Everyone's made their views known but Mr Sewer Tell Welles. You'd like to afford your secretary of state the opportunity to voices opinion mm-hmm fine a no. You don't see this way right now Mr president but I am trying to protect you. You've got a peculiar way of showing it. Well took control. Uh well resonant will not be sending the order to the Attorney General. He wants to wait for secretary seward away in before moving forward. What was add what he wants or? Is that what you've convinced him. He was Mr Wells when secretary seward wake see if he wakes up yes god willing at that time the president will make his decision. If you have a better course of action to propose posed go propose it. What do you have on him? I know you have something only. I don't know what good day Mr Wells. He changed his mind is. I just like that just like that. What did you say to Mr Laxton? No matter how desperately wells may try to load the pistol of leniency neither he nor President Johnson are in a position to pull the trigger assure you go. The DOT says wanted the president's signature. Now you have General Howard no the good news. I'll send word to the provisional governors right away. There's a famine coming Mr Langston. Let's get those Friedman unsettled. Wealth is right is me you have something on suffice it to say when it comes to swallowing down the poison you and I aren't the only ones drinking from the vile aw come on the doctors to see. Is that today the whole no sentimental just a doctor. Come in forget forgive me. I don't know I'm the one who should be apologizing for making you meet me here would have come to your office but as you can imagine quite a lot on my plate my pleasure thank you for accommodating me. Thank your wife's hair. She is a very persistent woman. Yes that is one way to put it on hoping this will put her fears to rest. Where where do you want me having seed wherever you like? I'd like to begin by asking you a few simple questions to establish a baseline for your treatment yes of course how. How are you feeling better? Your Life says otherwise my wife is a worry wart. I'm perfectly fine. Your medical records tell a different story to the fits. Come and go some worse than others but on the whole I'm getting better every day. Your wife says the coughing fits are as violent as they've ever been each important you answer honestly Mr Stanton. are the rich getting worse yes. Are you sleeping through the night. I've never slept through the night Gavin cat. Oh I do not have any cats heather. No no how often does your wife does incessantly how regular argue bowel movement. It's a relevant question is I'm aware you doctors are obsessed with my regularity. Do you know how many animals I've had had in my lifetime. It's just stand your doctor. You tell me how is it meant to remedy my breathing condition as I said I'm only trying to establish a baseline for your sat with men like you my entire life. I've answered these exact same questions more times than I have. Fingers is to count on a memory to hold my wife's. Aren't you my records yeshe and read them. I have writ then. Why are you wasting my time? Call on me when you have something useful to offer at your wife called on me because I devoted my life's work to the study of your condition in all my years. I've rarely seen a case of severe as yours. If left untreated your condition will kill you. Come in message message for you. So what does it say. It's confidential for your eyes. Only I will take my leave. Mr Stanton doctor may call on you in a few days time. I'd like to discuss my alternatives. Now you know where to find me. You See Myself Out Gentlemen. The note delivered this Mr Bell moments ago this to stanton per your request request. I'm writing new confidentially with a report on the condition of Mr seward seminar detail to seward's all no one gets inter out without my permission especially President Johnson yes Sir and bring my carriage round straightaway. I need to get over there before Johnson catches catches wind of this catches wind of what seward is awake in eighteen sixty. Five is an airship production starring Jeremy Schwartz has also featuring Lindsey Graham he infers j Michael Tatum are group's Elliott William Jackson Harper. David coffee created by Stephen Walters and Eric Are Chila directed by Robert McCulloch written. I Stephen Walters executive producer Lindsey Graham Co Executive Producers Eric Chila Robert mccullum Stephen Walters used can sound signed by Lindsey Graham to find out more about eighteen sixty five go to eighteen sixty five podcast dot com or find us on facebook and twitter at eighteen sixty five podcasts and if you're a fan of the show please consider supporting US become a patron at Katri on dot com slash eighteen sixty five podcast new.

Mr Stanton Mr President Mr Langston president President Mr President President Johnson President Lincoln Mr seward Mr Langston secretary Mr President Famine Mr Wells US Friedman Mr Laxton Andrew Jackson Edwin M Stanton President Jackson Mrs. Stanton stanton
Episode 107

Learn Astrology with Mary English

32:44 min | 2 years ago

Episode 107

"Welcome back. Welcome back to learn strategy with Mary, my name's maybe and this podcast is now to one hundred seven episodes. Thanks very much for following me. And being interested in astrology astrology is fat someone Mary English. You can find me at mare English dot com. Marriage to UK or you k astrologer Dakata he came. And I might have mentioned last week. I overdid that this is the most busy time if you are under Stalin her because you are one now you've been forming loose puck cost, and you go good understand decides. Quite if you just joined us do urge you go to go back to episode one. Now glue story it's telling so at gentlemen that I'd read for a few weeks ago. This been forming this poker I and we will call him. What we call what Mr. Capra corn? And I have actually used quite a few cap records on this podcast. We could abuse enough today because Pluto's translating captains could be there for a long time and the Denman had reading and enlisted poke cost, and then he's very kindly sent me an Email to say that the first six episodes of disappeared on all my goodness wise that smuggled onto Lipson who I am my hosting his with, and they told me that I you know, I needed to go into a certain settings and change it from one hundred episodes that could be allowed onto our June's. 'cause I I didn't know at done it because it's a setting that was already there. The only one hundred episodes would be filtered over to Archie. And so I urge you if you've just joined us hair on Astro Mary to go back to episode number one and work your way through. To episode twenty because in those first twenty episode, you'll learn an awful lot about on GMI veer off and go do something somewhere else. But it's cool. But if you have just joined us, then please go back to episode one which you will now be able to download because unfortunately, it he set two hundred episodes, and since this is now episode one hundred seven done done, the first six episodes of thraw sweet the first six outward showing, but they should now be showing the should've filtered through and if you can't find them on I choose than do dash over. I will put the link to to where they are hosted one hundred percent without having to three twenty years, and that's Lipson and the address there is astro- Mary A S T R O M A R, Y dot Lipson, L IB, S Y, N dot com. Am I can guarantee you episodes one to twenty in the first six that were missing definitely on there. It does come up to about think Romney pages on lips in now. East we'll housekeeping things more up to about five pages unless Europe to school back to I think it's page four because it might be page five you'd have starter is they've got a few of my blog posts from my broken the enemy enough of fat. You've been foreign me and lovely. Hello. What we going to do this week is the chart of that person. Mr. capital because he has given permission slips nice on Oviously. We're to take out any determining factors to identify the gentleman. But what I thought would be interesting this week. 'cause I wish I with you a little bit about what happened in the reading. He wants to start his own business. And at this precise moment at times, not too. Sure. What business he wants to start? But he's a bit fed up working for other people, and he feels a bit of a robot. So let's I work our way through his John then ongoing. I share with you at lovely segment is on Astra dot com where you should be learning, and you should be making Johnson with slapped wrists and the angles if you're not doing it going to share with you as a particular part of that website that allow you to compare your chart, so you're not my child this gentleman's talk. But compare your chart with other people that have hit lucky and become famous in some way, she thinking get a bit of a feel for. What is is the major part of your chart, then make you more geared towards okay? So. Let's get Mr. capital gains charts. Here he is. And I will be sharing his job, but costs so make sure you're looking at this show notes to be up to sit and his son sign is definitely Kappa Cohen, and he has a clustered one-sided chart. So if you have one of those you need to go back to the episode something of a where I talk about dick was about for back now to find it because I'm talking about unis. Okay. So episode twenty one is indigo semi Starbucks anytime. I talk about independence is so episode twenty once you've met you worked away from one to twenty listened to twenty one because there is information there about indigo. Some what's indigo all about. What does it mean? And in a nutshell. It's basically two planets come together in the same sign eventually made the complete conjunction. I mean the year that Mr. cap coons born, which is he's born nineteen eighty three the year that he was born a niche, even and Eunice are in this on such areas. But the not condone that didn't actually get cajones in Cosette. They moved the cabinet on transgender. They became Khun junked in the sign of camp. Rko nothing that's right in the nineteen nineties unquote me. But anyway, his shots missed capitals. Charts is very very one-sided know only one-sided this. He's only got one two three four five houses with primates in sets up pretty clustered shot and in the. Copy that I'm showing you this on the show notes. I have included the north node in the seventh and kyron rich Graydon tourists in the sixth. But we don't really need to discuss those. If we talked about life, the invest in everything is distinct basics, and this isn't wants to start his own business. We need to look to be able to you know, Donsak which which I have on in his region, but fior Pepsi's vision are learning a bit more about astrology is we need to look at certain houses. So the houses of work are the sixth house on the tenth house K, and I would advise anybody that is considering an running the owned business completely on the bone. Which is what I do. But don't complete softened put is to have something in your sixth or your tenth. Because otherwise, you're not going to be focused on your business. You're going to be focused on other things associated with it. You might not even enjoy having your own business. So in my chart, I've got Venus malls, the cig- gives Bree desire ID work a lot and is only because I enjoy more wet thought work and I've got moon in the tenth. Mr. Kappa gone has no planets in his sixth or his tenth. I'm in his strengths in his char- lie in the houses eleven twelve one two three so that's very strength. So where he has an of energy, and he has enormous amounts of planets in his second house in the second half is to do with money and self worth. Now, quite agree with Donna Cunningham, too, many astrological interpretations just waffle on about, you know, how much do you value yourself because you got sudden the second easing actually as dant not some both Dasche pounds and dollars is the second house. And if there is nothing going on in there, then you're not going to be could be bothered about money, but missed a cap. Putin has four planets in his second Tasse money is very important. So in the discussion about having the own business. It wouldn't be sufficient to have a business installed. Which is what I did. When I first started my Nakazawa just loved it so much just divvied of potent even bullet about almost bullet. But almost and so it was going to stop be doing it the financial aspects of it. Is a bit of a leap of faith having own business. And it's the same leap of faith, you tough to make if you were to become a professional storage because you have to trust your abilities to communicate with other people depending on what capacity of a strategy want to be do you want to be normal book standard everyday one to one storage is why do one on one with clients or do you want to be a financial astrologer? This. This Lloyd's discuss it probably when addict careers somewhere or other there, there is a Polk cost. Another is. I'm not gonna distract myself warm talked about now. Mr. Capra cones chart, lots of planets in the fourth money is important. He won't want a low paying job, no way. Jose. And at the moment, he's into considerably well-paid job doesn't like it hates it almost. But it does pay the rent and more, and he also has children. So obviously has to and wife so he has to make financial provision for them because he's the major wage earner now to run your own business. You need to have faith in yourself. So we do need to take into account Jupiter. And he luckily got his Jupiter in its natural home, which is at tears Harar. However, it's an his twelve house. So maybe there could be a possibility of not feeling too self confident. I'm I'm absolutely. Self-confidence? I'm afraid I do it with an old people that don't have any self confidence. And I'm very empathic to that. But I've never experienced it myself. So I don't know what it feels like nuts have self called. Unfortunately, I was born with gallons of it. But Mr. Kappa cooler might be a little bit lacking in it's because his Jupiter in its natural home mind, but he's in the twelfth. And the twelve is what we conceal from others you and MRs there as well. And it's very important if got and I have talked about this before. But you've got unison the twelfth house you do need to assist private freedom. You need to allow yourself to have a sense of freedom, regardless of what the freedom where operates from. But you will want to feel constrained and anybody with you in is in the twelve SUV trying to constrain them in any any form that guy to battle against that? I say from personal experience because my you indices in the twelfth. Now, Mr. cap corn. So we're gonna we're can rent whatever the place here Mary. So let's do this properly. So such terraces send didn't international connections. He was born in another born in another country, my point another country and be talking to think of the country. Yes was born another country, and he now lives in the U K and that such terrace ascendant. I've seen that so much in children who because I've read for parents and then up than the kitties charts, and they were born in our countries that oaths look at such terrace ascendant. So you either born in the country, and and travel, you just like travel and all my books moment. I have a number of Kappa cones research terrace ascendance, and there's international connections with them. So then notes in the place of country whether were born there in other countries that tend to be multi lingual blotted by my dad was a such a terrorist had to such tears. Descendant as well and was multi-lingual lift the Platte pink in place. He lived in India until didn't Sri Lanka which back in the days gold, salon. And he traveled a lot. So this if you have a such terrorist isn't and this is to cap Coon has that's completely different to the sun signing capital decisions CAPCO itself as a sign isn't so much interested in long distance offer, which Haitian philosophy m-, whatever that set such Terry's is interested in. And so we've got an earth signed son being concealed in way by this such a terrace ascendant and remember Nichols. The ascendant is the knee jerk sign that you will operate under under stress the same stretcher onto when you were born. So Mr. Kaplan's case he is a cap Coon wanting. Steadfastness a stoic working towards something future. Orientated needing to climb to the top definitely not wanting to be at the bottom of don't care. What you do for living is gap new door to be at the bottom of whatever is you do for living ambitious. Most of the time. No, always depends and Kaplan is respecting of their eldest. I know so many cap children who in a way almost did not being kids and would befriend children that were older than themselves. They prefer to be an older company most serious most of. Educated possibly or. Odor themselves wiser wiser of at the capital wants to aim towards wisdom. It's very much aren't of that. But remembering of course, that the symbol for capital. Is the goat with the fishy tail? So I have got that the fish and the so the story behind that is that on the one hand, they might seem terribly stoic and lower abiding et cetera. But they've caught a funny side, and there's a comedian whose name escapes myth moment. But he did something a did program. Johnny English was a film was in Mr. bean, Dardenne wise, real name is and where he's capital. And he's a comedian. So it isn't correct decide that every cap corner series. But in Mr. gap coons chart, we have such terraces sentence. So this going to be a continual fight between the sun in the stoic sauna Kappa corn, and the Sagittarius let's go and do it. Let's do it. Now, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, let's travel world and have some fun. And is this gonna be continual fight with? I mean, luckily than form in dreadful aspects anything and he has nipped Choon in the first house. A now, I know a lot of people who got that. So I, of course, sister with it, my partner has it. My best friend has it. So these people are very close to me are no your sister best Random House, Ben Gordon to investors, and there's an advantage and a disadvantage to the advantage is that you can sort of touch into crazy. Because most of things, and and you know, say, you know, because you don't talked about. People with Neptune in the first house can get involved or be attracted to things that aunt earth based or mainstream suspicious routing comes onto that. And if you have niche in your first house, people won't see you as you all so much that you go the such terrorist ascendant. And then you steam some fog in front of it. That's the disadvantage to the Neptune near to the ascendant in the first house. People would never see you as you are they'll get a sort of a foggy version of you. So the remedy for this Neptune. The first house is to be very very clear when you communicate with people now, Mr. capital has his mercury in the sign a cap corn almost exactly conjuncture his son. So his sons twenty five degrees Cancun, fourteen minutes and his mercury's twenty five degrees. Capcom thirty nine minutes. Whiz mcchrystal further along into capital, but trust me, it's conjoined. So his word will be his bond. You know, what he says is what he means Bont other people will misinterpret and because of the Neptune so. Have to get past the Neptune and make sure maybe when you communicate in that what you say is written down. Please say has been done that you like things down or maybe repeated or you are supposed to repeat back to you by the said, no Venus moon in Aquarius. So that's cool and the pretty conjointly two degrees apart the moon is the failings, and that's sort of very strange moon signed to have. So if you have your moon in Aquarius, it's very very difficult to pin your motions down, and we'd probably be talking for six hours before you ever. Tell me how you feel about something. In fact, you probably don't want to feel how you feel moon inequalities is so cerebral. I mean, the batch flower remedy for that is water violet it's necessary to probably not feel things really. But we don't want to feel things Munich waivers. I will good friend Munich wireless. It's a very strange moon. Sign to have it's not watery. It's not far it's air and it's about liberation Aquarius. About being me yet been liberated and emotionally you will not want to be tied down with moon in Aquarius in oh Soo. You're not gonna manage with jealous. Partnered ayrton. Nestor third house has Moore's in and again in Aquarius. The third house is how you communicate and to have your MA's them might be burn decay. Generally. You know Mars is the go to war is the segment the chart to his siblings. Maybe fight me the prison system. No, it's the planet that will give you energy. So maybe you feel energized being able to talk about things 'cause is about communication and short journeys. Said it's go backwards. So the eleventh houses groups to run a business now what different types of business. What I do is. I'm basically what's called a sole trader I work for myself with no staff who. Thought you'd ever want to work with me. Anyway. So you need to look at the eleventh house if you want to create a business or business other people working for you with you park shipping forever. And you do need to have something going on the NFL minds empty, Mr. capital. Cohen has Pluto incessantly Sutton's good. That's a nice planets Ivan the eleventh house of groups and friends because you take your friendship seriously, Pluto, occasionally, you might have at the groups that you'll members of my occasionally implode or the might be power struggles going on. I mean, it's in the science thankfully of. Libra someone OB chewed much that going on. But was saying. So to have the eleventh twelve first second third clustered planets and wanted to start your own business. Do you need to find a plan? I mean, this gentleman already works in the financial sector. Anyway. That's why his experience lies think. That's also one that greasy score. So it's imperative that the business that he starts me have talked about this. He doesn't just drop. Everything jump over the edge of the cliff in hope the business titan will need to build it up slowly and steadily second houses similar to the energy Satour's slow and steady catches the worm. Which is totally the wrong expression. But I just invented that. Once the beginning. Now, we have what some transit's going on the day. I did the region was the twenty seventh of December. So the major transit is Pluto is just about conjunctiva son sciences been shrimp singing through the sign of capital for so long. Now, it's really made somebody capital JD wavy. And the captain's no have had a waffling happen to them among good. Who was but number of captains have had because you have to deeply change with with Pluto transit. It's going to happen to every sign of this odiaun. Not in yours. Oh, my lifetime. When I was born Pluto is in the sign of Virgo in his now in Kappa gone might still be alive when it gets into Pisces Karuma now fast. It moves. Can't remember if I will be or not much we'll see at an get Baba's to more, but his a slow moving pan it so really in the lifetime. You never going to see it transit more than four or five signs sakes. Maybe should I think my mother lived to be ninety. She had Pluto in the first house in the sign of cancer, and she had unionist matern. And when she died Pluto was in. Kappa coal. Yeah. So she managed six signs that thus. That's the suitably meet really the you're going to see in your lifetime. But if it transit past your son sign, which is doing Mr. Kaplan's case and his now coming up to be conjoined. It isn't sufficient to stay the way you are whatever it is. You're doing you're gonna have to change in some way. Deep change and transformation is the Pluto transit, so maybe God knocking on your door. I don't mean. Good literally. But the universe whatever you wanna call it knocking on your door is alerting you to you need to make a change. And sometimes it will do it in negative ways. I out an illness. We lose your job and star. But it's just the universe has been trying to alert you to this change that you need to make and you've ignored it. So then the universe gets a bit louder Nardin outer there's when I sat down bomb to maybe on need to change. And I think this is what Mr. Kappa corn is going through at the moment. A number of slow steady. Pluto trans. Not things. And it's now navy enough. Conjuncture isn't sons twenty-five Pluto is twenty degrees. Yes, it's a D. And all and it's gotta get closer and closer. So I have advised him to spend a few years working on his business plan building up slowly. And then he will be able to Phoenix style into his new role. Yep. Keep in mind that the financial side of it is the most important thing fame, which is completely different from my business. I'm not doing it for money. If we just like when I've done it because I love it. Hin? He also has met Cavani sent the moment. So he's been talking about how he feels. He wants to do. That's great. He's had his subtle return. Satins now in his sign when we get to Nick state be near his son sign, which will be great 'cause Sutton helps you strengthen your Capri calmness. When something goes into the sauna cap Kuhn, all cap Cohen's gonna suddenly stand up straighter, Phil stronger. This is the ruling planet that is in their sign. It's imagine it's a buddy this on your side really helping us any captains out the Hello. I'm waving at you know, sat and in your sign is fab- Pluto, isn't you know, we can't say Pluto's fiber tall. But Sutton is wonderful. Welcome it with open arms. This is my soul mate is now. Coming to help me. That's how you need to imagine Saturn coming on. It will give you the strength. The resolve. Serve that all the things that you need as a capital on style watch nurse and come with the used earlier. Got it got to be stout. What if your cap capital, so so once again, but it will really really really help you law to Sutton and the son service focus, obviously birthdays coming up stuff. Unisys completely finished all its s-h-i-t. So he has spent a number of years the earliest his life was under the influence of you in this. I would say and yet the probably wasn't quite so happy Eurydice in capital. Four capital. In is just a bit weird is pitzer like him. The. Big field of mud and the earth cracking the sunshine on it being electric in modern logistic, don't really go together to well. And Neptune is also been under the influence Neptune praties to because Neptune is at the beginning of his chart Matt's finished as well. So we cannot blame any out upon its once Pluto's I've expansion once Pluto gets passed his sons on that say it's never gonna reappear in his child every and okay, maybe at some point put juice and opposition. But don't about positions. It's when things are conjuncture, you know, you really need to wake up awards those blow moot or to tell me. And also Jupiter is going to be on his his him for the whole of this year, which is absolutely fabulous. So anybody with Juban such Terisa sentiment? You ought to transit in enjoy every moment lasts until know them. Now as I mentioned we can now compare his char-. So I want you to go to asteroid dot com. K put your cursor over free horoscopes and the bottom right-hand says your Astro twins K click on that and in the top bar will be horoscope for. So I've put Mr. Kappa coons chart that. Okay. And underneath it. It'll say ashtray twins from Astro databank. So you can do this your Charles well, and then it says click on the names to see a chart image. So if you click on each names or click on the first one here Brundle, Christina Bondo being it'll come up Charles that person, and they've got such terrorist ascendant moon in such niche in on this end and son. I always coming up with plus it is flipping houses. But anyway, would be some stood in the second year and moon is definitely in the twelve a similar chart yours. Mr. Kaplan each checker charter, so she's a Spanish theater and film actress who played in the role of the Spanish roommate blahdy, blah was does that tell me, and he's so interesting through this olive gave he played the role of the Spanish roommate in LA LA Bursch Espanol s back Noli. The Spanish apartment and sequel. So she had she's an actress film actress now the other people, and I thought this is really interesting every other charts example, they've got on there. A way before you were born Mr. capper colon k say you need to break the mold their the hasn't been an awful lot of capitals with such a terrorist. Ascendance doing anything amazing for a while that I forget whence people get famous for different reasons. Some not saying at all that Mr. capital you need to come famous. What I'm saying is look at the different types of roles and jobs, and that these other people have got the had the similar chart yourself again. So once an actress wants, a French composer once and other interests once Kobi's may be love, and it's highly and homicide and a serial killer, so comed- just not turn out about please wants a French psychologist. One's a grand prix motoracing driver wanted Benedictine monk and a missionary that sense interesting. What did he do? It's what Moonen such terrorists such tears sentence against was son's going to be in the second. We've got such sentence than whatever. And he invented. What did he invent the technique of ultraviolet radiation for the seminated manuscript get him? Wow. And he took the legislation of brother father, Rafael at the boomer and cloister. So then go so haven't it looked through other people that have the same choice stuff? I've done this for mine mine's. Oh, funny. You know, see what the majority of people that have done, you know, to this Monday this person born eighteen ninety six there's not many people born in one thousand nine hundred there's somebody nineteen twenty two there's somebody which as I see it at one nineteen eighty three nineteen sixty that was a serial killer. So please ignore him nineteen twenty five and nineteen seventy seven. Yeah. I'm an you know, read read up a little bit about their lives. You know, what did they do? What did they do? What could I do differently now? Born on January sixteenth, which is the same datus. Mr. captains, there's heaps of people. Look, we've got oh my goodness. On hundred thirty one and astronomer royalty an astrologer who sack William Edward Whitman. Okay. Author activist journalist comedian intellectual psychiatrist musician rights, our military leader, Brock musician. Licko Mokoto singer songwriter journalist medicine fields things he could be famous in. Anyway. But it just I think it's nice to sometimes when you're learning astrology look to see on Astor dot com. Other people got shot this identity. Gills? And in this case the first chunk of this is such terrorists. And and Sunan cap. And sort of see how did that lives turn out? What might you do differently? You know, what would you have done in those circumstances that type stuff? Yeah. So that's a wonderful thing. Anybody could do this. You don't need to be Mr Cameron. You could do it yourself. Go free horoscopes goal weight on bottom. Bryant Astro Astro databank your Astro twin? It's so interesting when you call them up you see the various different things that people were involved in. So I hope you have fabulous week. I'll be back next week hundred episode one oh eight I not to show up doing next week, but we are into new year. And I am very busy at the moment. And just to remind you if you need to contact me, it's Mary at marriage Kodo, u k the website. It's WWW manage dot com or tocado K, and you can also get me at you cashed on it dot com dot UK, which is got more information on it. And I am on YouTube, and I will put a link. Ink to their of a few videos on there. An I am doing something in the next couple of weeks up put into the video up, but I'll put the link to the YouTube channel, and I hope you have fabulous week and carry on storage. You get doing great Popeye now.

Kappa Cohen Mr. capital first house Mr. Kaplan Mr. cap coons Sutton Mr. Capra Mary Lipson Munich Europe LA UK YouTube Mary English Stalin Archie Romney Mr Cameron
091520 Hour 2

Ace and TJ

27:36 min | 4 months ago

091520 Hour 2

"When you look at your current bathroom, do you know that it needs an immediate update? We want you to know about one day bath and shower remodeling with prices as low as one hundred, ninety, nine dollars per month call eight, hundred, nine, four, eight, five, seven, four, nine, eight, hundred, nine, four, eight, five, seven, four, nine. Okay. Now that we're all both stuck at home in looking at any new hobby or career ideas remember we've got our podcast company and can help you with. A career in podcasting all you need is the idea and we can help you with everything else from equipment posted on Itunes, how you do a podcast and most importantly how you podcast and have it sound professional. Now, this part may be good for some and well, not so much for others but as and I will listen and help you with your podcast and this is an optional service. All you need to do is go to radio network DOT COM THAT'S RADIO NETWORK DOT COM The news put it is what's trending down trending with rates on the act to show those Straw lids at starbucks are now the norm in in the United States and Canada they're moving from straws completely no more paper straws they've decided this is the thing. To get rid of paper strong I hate a paper Straw while passionate terrible. Yeah. So the problem is that the they've acknowledged that the amount of straws that go into the garbage isn't even close to what? What Act you know what actual trash they produced? It's like a drop in the bucket, but people don't like Straw. So they're going to that Straw Lid. If you've had one, you already know what it is but now that's going to be the norm. So get you in other words the whole hysteria about straws turns out to be it's not really that big. More less substance more what do you? What's symbolism over sub symbolism over substance what liberalism over substances always. Maybe. and Venus was trending the top trending topic for most of the day. Because they found these microbes in the gas clouds that surround Venus, which may mean there's life on the planet of Venus. May always picture anything on Venus any type of. Say, it's a person is always a woman. I don't see men live on Venus because that's where women are from. Yeah women are from Venus and then they you know the only products we ever see from there or women's razors. And all about the ladies on Venus. I got knows he's got it. Yeah Baby. She's got it. Dan Hannah she. Iovine us. Show I think are they actually different razors I dunno never used one. Women's razors versus or as millennials verse. Men's raise. Yeah. I think either would work for either. Yeah. But they make them with a different grip on the handle shaving your legs. Oh, it has I think the lubrication smells different honest meals maybe. Flowery as opposed to. mainly yeah. I didn't know that. Okay but they work on either their May hires higher. Whatever. That's terrible as common with the whale. Wales can get tans and sunburns the same way humans do. So. So, then everybody would have something in common with yeah. I don't know why pinned that to. You're just more subject to sunburn correct that is all I'm subject to you didn't suffer any somewhere in the summer i. Just very little very little but not where you could say. And it's it's weird. He would get sunburned where the sun doesn't shine. Weird and. That happens. That's upset. Crazy vacation. Yeah. Twenty twenty couldn't get any worse killer clowns or back. There's a most of these videos are appearing on Tiktok. A lot of people dressing up and clowns grab been chef's knives you know Big Cleavers and running and chasing people through neighborhoods and stuff like that. So as if the year couldn't get any worse killing clowns back for twenty twenty welcome back. Yes somebody's going go into a clown franker is GONNA end up getting killed probably gonNA probably and the tweet of the day. From a girl named Tony she says men will make fun of women who like astrology while managing a fake football team. That was well done. Good she's got a point. All those things are now trending. Okay, you got the job with the brand new company in the first day was just not your day. Would you and Cameron Newton the quarterback. In the NFL having come, we'll find out next facing TJ web and graphic design courtesy of Alpha lab design email design at as TJ dot com for more INFO. Hi I'm Bobby Barbara, independent since he director, do you love SPA soft Reagan Susan beautiful home to core than hurry over to my website smells just right dot com and look at our New Himalayan salt warmers. They're available in your color choice pink or white or hey, go ahead and get both right. Our new fragrance bars inhale exhale are perfect with these wars featuring hints of salted citrus, calming frazier, and Solar Woods. These items are on sale, but only while supplies last. So hurry and go to smells just right dot com and get yours today. A new lunchtime challenge has entered the fray introducing BUBBA. Folded crispy flat breads filled with milk. DT's juicy meat and tangy sauce for just six bucks and behold the newest member that this court that Galil Buffalo Chicken Papa deal with good little chicken and zesty buffalo sauce that kicks like a jousting labs to the tongue. Six Bucks. That's ingredients better Pizza Papa John's modell discount fees and taxes extra by May vary. TJ Show presents another personality profile case you don't my boyfriend's nipple. As. True. So the NFL season. Kicked off. Last week. Everybody. And regardless of where you come down politically on on the NFL. Putting. Activism and politics and all into the game now. Just look at the the on the field stuff for a second. ONE MR, Cameron Newton. Who was? The heisman trophy winner his senior year in college with Auburn University the. Tigers. then he was drafted in the first round by the Carolina Panthers and he played for the Carolina Panthers for ten years or something that not quite. He is a masterful costume designer. Because, he he brings something to the post game press conference every week. That is that is sure to be a crowd pleaser in the form of STU. He he I'm guessing that he picks out those costumes on his own or does he have a costume designer that puts it together for him these these wild outlandish. Costumes that he wears off special here's a suit guy. Okay. Have a costume person. Together now he's got was that this week Regan's he's pulled up a picture here. That's a bright yellow. kind of an animated suit with a red splotch on little Pale and a bow tie and a In in kind of a I would say a cross between a Lincoln's top hat and something from. dolemite. With. The shoes that are dressy loafers with the word Bam written across from inflames. So. Always, always entertaining with his post-game cost you. Now. He's played is entire NFL career and You know one of those seasons with the NFL he was the NFL MVP. That's for the whole league. MVP stands for most valuable person. And he was the most valuable personal. Of the NFL teams. Not Nfl football teams because that's redundant. Because the F. IN NFL stands for football. So, this is the first year. It's big news that he was not playing as a Carolina Panther. He played quarterback. number one. For. The New England patriots. Instead of Tom Brady. So that's a whole big issue. But after the game. which he did very well in the game because he's a good player, I don't know if a lot of people realize that the Camera Newton is a good little play. He's known to be a good player. Yeah especially, if he's in a good mood, that's the key to Cameron Newton's performance as if he's in a good mood. Then he performs well. So. Don't need him to be a little Mr, grumpy pants waking up on. Sunday. Mornings. Or your team will be in for it. He's playing for anyway after the game he gets into a scuffle. A. a confrontation that was somewhat physical. After his team won well then somebody said that defensive players from Emi, the opposing team and Cameron Newton were jawing with each other the whole gang meaning talking crap to each other and pushing in toward the. So then it Kinda got on into the post game where there was some pushing and shoving and some I tried to snatch Mr Cameron Newton's chain off of his neck. Can you believe that? Is it chain snatching my guy? So first day with his new company, he gets into a fight. That's what we're focused. The very first day. Basically I mean he practiced and all that stuff. But the first game, we'll call it the first day with his new company he got into a fight. Now, listen carefully. If, you started a new job. And you got into a fight on the very first day. And you are a woman. We want to hear your story. Yes. So it's women women only you got into a fight on your first day with the new company could be your first day of work period but you adjust started your job at a new place and the first day you got into a fight with somebody. And we're going to assume it was their fault. Of course, we're not blaming you for anything. Just. Like I'm not blaming one Mr Cam Newton Cameron Newton for starting a fight with anybody I'm just saying he got into a fight on the first day. How are we defining fight? I'm thinking any kind of physical even if we with Mr Cameron Newton it was just a shove and try to snatch the chain, but it does have to us was some sort of a physical altercation. I mean, you don't have to start Waylon on anybody. But just some sort of. Even, if you do through something at a person and missed. I think that would outs. Absolutely, like if you if you just. Picked up your purse and threw it across the room and some guy's head has he was disrespecting you. Day For one. And you don't have to. You have to be where you've got fired from the job either because when Mr Camera Newton did not get fired obviously it's kind of part of the thing. So it could be with a customer or a coworker anybody on the first day with the new company one triple eight, forty, one ace TJ. Remember, you can remain anonymous we'll call you lucy. That's what we call people who want to stay anonymous. A. DM the story. Of How you and one Mr Cameron Newton are like. We'll find out what we get next. On our twenty four seven streams sponsored by Hampton. South Park at Phillips, place and stay connected funny with the ACE and teach. So have you reading all these stories say that since the pandemic people have been really focusing on losing weight at home and? Exercising in have dropped pounds and all that, and you think not me. Where's that coming from the unique Alan? Callan is a product that helps you with better sleep and with weight loss those things go hand in hand calendar helps with both as well as other things like acid reflux joint pain, all kinds of different things. It's not a drug. It's not almost said a hallucinogen that either. But it's not a stimulant in you take it before you go to bed and they've got their end of summer sale happening right now you buy a proven ninety day. Supply and you get a ninety day supply free six months half off. Perfect to stop up or with a friend all you have to do is go to top LOSS DOT COM T. O. P. L. O. S. S., DOT COM or call them eight, hundred, three to five, forty, three, sixty, six, eight, hundred, three to five, forty-three, sixty, six, and get Callan. WHO's your small to mid size business ready for the inevitable rebound voice hunter dot com specializes in providing top level voice talent for all your video marketing. And advertising needs. There's no better time than right now to focus on increasing your customer base and corporate internal audio needs boy center dot com is a voiceover service with the world's best voice actors and actresses Voice Center Dot Com at seven, zero, four, six, four, eight, Ninety, eight, hundred or visit us on the web at Voice Dot Com. Previously on the new. Share Funny podcasts I imagine in my head she tells the friend Ham GonNa meet up with that guy that guy that when we were at the coffee shop, we saw walking by with the dog and then the friend goes the guy in gym shorts and crocs. vaping. Don't Miss Share Funny Live today and Ninety Easter on the ace and Tj I heart radio APPS, or subscribe where get your podcasts. Ason TJ. GIRL THAT GOES TO TRIGGERS Thinks the friend talked her out of it. lost. So Cameron Newton quarterback in the NFL, started with a new team. Sunday he at into a skirmish, not not not anything bad. Just little shelvin going on Suzanne he got into a physical altercation on his first day with a new company who else has done that. First Day with a new company you got into some sort of physical altercation with some batty. all of these people are warning to remain anonymous. So okay. My stepdad got me a job working at the company he had been with for twenty something years. During lunch break I was eating in my truck and he thought he saw me drinking a beer. He came over there yelling and screaming at me in front of everybody. and I knocked him out right there in the parking lot knocked out a step dad. Said I just laughed because I figured I was fire we're okay now but I wasn't drinking a beer. It was a diet Dr Pepper and. I guess the white can from a distance. Yeah a diet. Dr Pepper would look like a beer. Knocked him out at right? They win and I'm guessing that's not the first. physical altercation he and his Stepdad have gotten into because they're all right now. But remember not just Stepdad's deb size boss. Didn't say was his boss. I thought. I'm picturing he the one of those places where you gotTa know somebody to get a job there so I got him on the job. gave him a job and got him My Step Dad got me a job. He got him on over there at the meal where we would say Louis. this is a lady I was all excited. Finally, I got a job working for this big chain store that is known for having good fits. I showed up the first day. All happy and smiling until about six hours in some woman customer called me a dirty beat. Dirty I got all up in her face and kind of pushed her with must up. But. She's Chest bumped or some? And they told her to leave. Oh, she got fired six hours she worked there. We need to be taken that from people might. Be attack the customers. No you can't be disrespected. Tony left seeing women negative stomach bump somebody. GOING GET OUTTA here. Can you imagine if you're a customer that place right or wrong? Whatever's going on your only? God these I think the the employee and the customer are about to. Fight and it was supposed to be just women participating that. But that's Stepdad. Story. was good to pass up. There's a lady here that said in basic training I was trying to be helpful telling a girl what we were supposed to be doing. So we I'll get smoked. And she came at me with the hanger. She was way bigger than me but I was about the thing I was scared I grabbed a hanger to and we went after her. People separated them. She goes in her defense. It had been a very long day and it was very stressful. We were all very tired hot scared stressed out. We became good friends after that. Girl grabs a hanger comes after this girl's I. Hang on she grabs a hanger and comes back at her and luckily everybody else gets it between him and stop them from going at each other with hangars to, and they still have to deal with the minstrel shows and everything. What do you mean? The I mean the You know. The women. Even. Though they're in basic training and all they still have all that other hormonal things. NO-GO. was that bad. Kind of odd. Well, they do I mean think about all of the stress that men have under those. Maybe. That's the wrong term I use for them I was trying not to. The real thing but? but didn't mean that the way it came out but. They have the hormone stuff that they have to deal with it. They can't help. That's what she's saying in her defense. Yeah, whatever. That was work. It's even harder for the women. They have the same stresses the men have plus you have this other thing on top Zach. I mean just because you sign up as a soldier whatever doesn't mean that you're you're hormone troubles go away and all This. Okay. N. T. J.. I'm not thinking very. I've been sick all night. So. If, you break into somebody's house. You would usually steal something if somebody breaks into your house, you would find that they've stolen something. Well, this person left something. And it's one of the strangest breaking and entering situations. I just read the tight talk God. What it sounds like. Mel I looked at the title. Next. Never Miss Anything with the ACE and Tj Show Hampton Inn and suites, Phillips Place Replay here at any time on the act J. APP or the channel on the. All as and Tj show graphics and web designer done by. Alpha. Lab designs looking for spectacular email design at TJ Dot Com web design menus, marketing materials, brochures, flyers, social media, ads, and more design at a TJ DOT com. You know it seems we've been bombarded with nothing but bad news for many months. Well, we love hearing personal and inspiring stories from you the TJ radio family. So if a person you know has. Recently done something to enhance the lives of others tell us about them and we will spread the message of their kindness to everybody at a nominate somebody just go to our APP and Click Ace TJ shoutout. Every month will feature two stories in our insider newsletter and those two people will win some cool ace and TJ prizes. We can hardly wait to read all the stories of selflessness being done throughout our radio fame. Show. Oh, just wait for today's edition group there. He says, I've expressed my concerns to him. And he says. Nothing will happen unless I allow. What could happen? It's one of those things the hypothetical that has come true. You've had this conversation with your friends before it's the hypothetical that has come true in today's edition of Group therapy in about thirty minutes and I guarantee you later on the day going GonNa go okay. Let me ask you a question. I heard this on the radio this morning and you're gonNA throw it out to somebody to see what they would do. In this case it's that good in about thirty minutes. Okay Everybody always says, if somebody breaks into their car their house when the first thing they say feel so violated. Because someone has come in have gone through Ali's stuff. They've taken your personal items and all of that. But then this case of a breaking and entering, it doesn't appear that any of that happen. Nothing was broken was stolen. When this person broke into a house in Ontario Canada in the middle of the night. Didn't take anything but left something. The. Perpetrator. Could be called. A perpetrator. Because that's what happened in the People's dishwasher. The person broke into the home and used their dishwasher as toilet didn't take anything out of the House now. Anything didn't do. Anything but. Go in there and use their dishwasher as a target for the number two. How do you find out about that? Is it? When you wash your dishes. I would that's only information in the story is. Whatever I don't know whether the people came home and saw that the door had been The, lock on the door have been picked your left the door, open some I left it open showing that they had been in the house. But obviously, the people weren't home right. They would have heard that in the middle of the night. Yeah Or. They could have come home and never known anything was wrong. Dishes wash over the dishwasher. WHOA I know that that's the worst nightmare. Yeah. Yeah. The hat then you start having backtrack it's it's anything been stolen. Had they him They don't have the guy. No they're trying to track now and you. Guy. The Guy Regan. I just can't wait to use it as an excuse when you offend somebody, it's like it's not like a pooped in your dishwasher. Relax all. All things considered. Someone. Broke into your home that an easy to clean run that run the dishwasher wants I don't know if I really believe that somebody broke into their house. I would need to know that they have teenage kids. They you know is a pranks doing something do they have You know security cameras in the House that showed somebody breaking in or they're just assuming somebody must have broken in done that. That sounds like a college Barney yeah. You didn't do then in the dishwasher. What do I didn't. Stock. In. Canada. Yeah I mean I would. I would do some DNA tests on the family, I? Yeah. It's always close the ones closest. Become the the number one suspects. Got I hope they found out before they wash the dishes. Would you go get a new dishwasher I think so Eight hundred run at one time like that wrote a couple of times. poop in there. S Not. One Zero. It's sanitizers running a few times. Three times. It's it's sanitized. It's good to go. May Not even if this they've tested, it may not even be the human. Type. Bear Putina dishwasher. Got Up there. I didn't think about it. It's easy to clean just take the dishes out that are in there. Running a couple of times cleans himself on everything out. So you're GONNA do dishwasher over that. Yeah. Getting new dishwasher. That's expensive. You don't have to join. Coming up on now trending with frigates off, there's a new dating APP it's called string and this may be the way you find. True Love. I'll tell you what it is less than ten minutes and now trending. Elite podcasters US radio network DOT COM to find all their podcast resources live from the radio button network studios. There's more of the to Tj show come. Hey, it's going and I WANNA make sure you know about the Hampton Inn and suites South Park and the completely renovated. Fitness and breakfast areas just call seven, four, three, one, nine, fifty, seven, hundred to book your reservation or newly designed conference room. That's seven, zero, four, three, one, nine, fifty, seven, hundred, one, a save up to seventy, five percent off on domestic or international airline tickets then call low cost airlines for prices so low, we can't publish them call eight, hundred, two, eight, seven, forty, seven sixteen that's eight, hundred, two, eight, seven, forty, seven, sixteen.

Mr Cameron Newton NFL ACE Tj Carolina Panthers football United States Mr Cam Newton Cameron Newton Guy Regan Canada Straw Tony Voice Center Dot Com MVP DOT Straw Lid DOT COM Dan Hannah starbucks
Mother May I with Eugene Tambourine & Tre DAmbrosia // 20/01/21

The Face Radio

2:00:00 hr | 2 d ago

Mother May I with Eugene Tambourine & Tre DAmbrosia // 20/01/21

"From the so the brooklyn. You're listening to the face. Radio started there making well. Hello and welcome to an all new episode of mother may i. I'm trained brocha and mother. Jeanne tambourine is in transit. But she'll be here shortly. You're listening to the radio ups. Well well well look what the cat dragged in. She made it just at the end of the intro. Just great timing. You have mother. I happen to say oh my goodness the mta was the mta i take. It was the mta. Well well you're here. Oh god loving that. Don't worry mother. Joe biden and kamala harris defeated racism and white supremacy. We're all we're all okay. Now you play records. I promise i won't get too deep into it today. Children because i know many of you are in a very celebratory mood. So i just want to keep it that way for all y'all and so mother and i are just going to start on. A on. heightened. Date is the first day of sanitaire sagittarius. Aquarius i don't know where i am or when i am all these high minded songs are for you we're gonna do cosmic happy hour cosmic. Happy half hour. Yes next week. But there are enough. There's aquarian sentiment here. High-minded revolutionary progressive themes like this one. Some some some some some some some some shot call So earth took jude Frayed we've we've kind got the uh-huh take one you completely changed with straight. We've got god head playing fish. You ohio in bed over don should though new plane. Hello to jeremy. Black and mr armani mother. This lady sounds very familiar. Oh who incident figured as much. You're listening to mother. May i dot part your ties that you can ask. You won't be skies keep phone. Keep four percent on. Sky's the limit in that. You can be who you guys keep on. Keep on skype skies in holds you keep percent on again. Hello to lex smell. Thanks for checking in girl When well back don some talk go the bodies book post. Not just a she does took. Don't win how to shop to who's joining us in this episode of f s q earlier which you can always catch every wednesday from noon to two right before the which of course then you get me and mother from florida on mother may not to be outdone apart by the one. The only the monday blue on your was us after this and then today you get a lovely dose of mr cameron We are settling in here. In the first half hour very loudly selections in that the number of good life vocalists fabulous hanging out. Ukrainian eating my borscht and fiesta life is thriving and things are changing. Today was the inauguration and you cut going to watch it later. Yeah i was busy putting the static protectionist. Try to i try to. Yeah i know we have these lovely. I'm last minute mary. I like to be inspired by the day's events or my lack of sleep which was today's inspiration for the site. You'll hear yup. yeah. I haven't yet i've seen i've seen anything i guess lady gaga. No secretary of defense jaylo is Yeah she's saying a very Rousing i thought clip of her singing. Let's get loud out the ballot. You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna live. Yes twenty twenty. One is off to a star star. Yeah that's a great way to put it absolutely wouldn't have i. I try to pol- many things. I try to pull modern things. And i always end up pulling something from nineteen seventy five. That was preston. So that's tom starting today. And i think feel appreciated. I have a little something to lay over that. I think that you'll approve of not mother new peaking here we go. You're listening from other deep shock to live into the track. So i figured i might as well tell him what it is. It's metro area. It's a rematch really. Check it out. Chuck gets her hands on it. It's a fun. I'm still trying to make moves into this. It's like playing double dutch with the mother. When she throws a lovely house he track at me from lake the turn of the century. And i've got something from the mid seventy s. We'll figure this out talk won't different Off balance Took think the new only source house was unclear into file this record under topical point makers about taking the vaccine and other women who could have possibly sang the national anthem who are still living with us in twenty twenty one hears god lady gaga jaylo odds company mills of a live gladys night alive. Oh whatever america you off commander a look do really do total saying will you and only you old cool from lou. You sorry learned issue ballot seat burbank. On cnn top chris. You took soon took on report old doc debate inside. Talk to go and up doc. Not that bad to some. I just don't know talking to be a doctor joke back job for those of you at home sitting on your sub woofer. You're welcome pre couple. Thank you fever. Ask walk talkative quite tweet. We make way all of these things in front befitting ways. I want to tell them a certain way we talk. We create a third wave this third way. We we make you know all of these things we do. In specific way this personally power we side breast to to take and we know we want to do it. As opposed to having continuously tell us because asked not to. First i staff got it off off just stopped am make good new talk. The bush Dr john good team trump God sir one just sure law time finesse. Five talk report. Found now this fun you keep on too but you know that you keep from no the to be ties and the that you keep. Sky's the limit. And that you cannot be who you skies the limit and in all that you keep. Chief bed is third a bill Report is on tape over. Thank scott repeat skill shows. Thanks chris. wrestler Me officer Beautiful for what appeared before pop. He was the and as you were was recurs. Say we don't know we'll you do beyond kids. I am giving you all to be. Because mother. And i are over here kit chatting about cadre google and what a bunch of hunks. They all wear so cute every last one of them i would let them closure google all over me. They don't have the hair anymore but there's certainly now. We got a really good documentary on youtube about them. Follow up what's happening. Following god i grew. They became jaap. We actually we went through this on the t. Last summer we talked about what happened to causing you. Chuck defunct for me. And yeah they They follow the face of the earth by this still fabulous and really hot if you ever have an opportunity to look at their their album covers. I'm gonna get out of this record. There's only five seconds left event maybe I absolutely missed the taranath samples of early ninety. Thousand you mean era. You're listening to mother complex. Just won't make all the same for this was before a back wasn't zip code policy again. Interest all records spin you but really that was. That was fun. Oh mother mother mother. A brand new dawn awaits us in this fabulous next chunk of four years. I wonder wonder what will be on the other hand. I hope a nice fat stimulus chat. Because i'd love to pave january's rent. You're still waiting so waiting. I think that my landlord can can handle. He's good. he's got a least twenty. Other tenants probably two buildings in bed stein. He's just fine. So am i here with you. Spinning feeling always lovely today dear. You're lovely clean. You know it's helpful. When your round mother i feel the energy or nay. May i say the guilt. And i know and i feel inspired or if anything Greatly encouraged. I should say i'm gonna keep it all positive by your by you. Being around i start to put all the right things together and use the eat q. The way god intended sometimes it works out and other times froze seduction on the last second. Because you really don't know what you were feeling but He beauty velocities late eighties early nineties house kids just they always just a place for all of them the for love this one it just everything just falls house yeah girl. There's a place for all kind of fit with everything of house. Music wasn't it wasn't made to be a genre that kind of separated. All the others. On earth was something you could play the integrated exactly off and then it became. Its own little thing. That's and that's what i hope that it becomes. Once upon again we were talking about the scissor sisters record that we that we heard earlier. Oh my god just such yes i do. I was still in my teens and young. No i mean that just like you're saying it's such an inspired effing record and i can't wait to hear dance. Music do similar things again. I think it's coming. It was a cool time. Like i was telling you when i was living in seattle time when i first heard it and i remember at the time everyone was really live career. People were coming together with music because the headache musical and when this came out so many of our back we're back with doing great music again and we're you can be queer and into music and not just a dancer and not just a dj. But you'd be musician for listeners. To it's all it's all great. It is no i mean it brings us all together which is what what music is all about and really the face radio and mother may i are all about and i guess as the record fades. That's kind of the theatrical and romantic way of us i suppose tying the knot on today show children timing manatt timing the not as well. Okay you really do have to time it out. Be certain that you're looking at your government issued navigational clock. I have about seventy five seconds left here mother all in which case you know what that means kids. We're show and we like to have balance so here. This is our outgoing. She tried to line it up. Mother there she goes. We need our exit music accident. We need family do need family just like we need in frozen exits and interchanges blends pioneer mixers turntables and dj monday blue. Who's joining us in. Just seconds kids. Don't hang onto your wigs keys trivia. Fun one and stick around all night. Listen to mr cameron ian. Sit around to face radio for the rest of the week. Because he got fabulous fabulous. Things happening a single day every single hour. And you can catch me and mother next wednesday here on mother. We'll see kids tonight.

brocha Jeanne tambourine mta mr armani mr cameron kamala harris gaga jaylo Joe biden bush Dr john good Sky brooklyn Chuck defunct taranath skype jeremy lady gaga chris don preston
Happy Birthday, Christmas

Optimism Vaccine

1:08:46 hr | Last month

Happy Birthday, Christmas

"It's optimism vaccine and joining me for this very merry holiday special. He's currently wrapped up in front of the fire with his martin. Socratic afghan atta myrow here. I don't even know what that means and see the fucking article. It's like the most popular article on the internet. It was in. I think l. magazine. It was it was about this. This woman and she worked for bloomberg and she was covering the farm. Bro martin schick rally or skelly. I don't know how to say his last name. Whatever pharma bro. And whoever that he ended up yes so she was covering him when he was going through his trial and and all that shit and she ended up getting really close to him and like divorcing her husband and then he went to jail and now they're like boyfriend and girlfriend are planning on getting married after he gets out of jail allen. He won't speak to her now. Oh yeah no he got because he's allegedly trying to protect her so that's why he won't speak to her but the two parts of the article that really stick out which is saying something because the whole thing is just full of like just horrible shit but one the first time. They kissed the woman remark that they kissed in the visitation room at the prison and it smelled like wings. Which i thought was good so yeah just imagine making out with the farm bro. And in prison visitation room. That smells like fried chicken. And then the other thing was she only has one picture of them together and one of the other prison wife's was like oh. It's such a cute picture of you guys. And so she made the farm lebron's girlfriend like a blanket with the picture on it so she could rapper. Self seems pretty normal. I think i'll just wait for the net flicks miniseries. Yeah i see. My mind immediately. Went to vincent skier. Elliott was like what vincent ski rally afghan look very similar. I would imagine also joining us. Jackie bag jack. Why do they play the national anthem at the end of the night in ireland. When you're at the bar gets people. Believe i've actually i don't know i mean i've i haven't played the irish national anthem. I don't. I don't know how good one i've chimba snug country from england just wanted to say. Zombie by the cranberries. Or are you too. I mean did you by all rights should beautiful day or something like that. Yeah that would make more sense. The national anthem zeke. It's good one. So soldiers saw soldier gets up to but yeah it's good. It's good rising words. Good it's it's honestly and the scale of of national anthems. I think it's there. Frankly maybe not as good as a french but like better numerical national garbage national anthem asks mute. Shifts are not bad. Yeah i used to. I didn't. I didn't know this about the the irish bar thing until i went ireland but Back when i used to go to normal bars in america i would constantly like usually when you know people are really really drunk so somewhere around one. Am or twelve thirty where it's not bar closed but people are kinda a little tipsy. I would play the national anthem on one of those internet jukebox. Things and i'd throw like five bucks in. And i would just play it like as many times as i possibly could. And it's a great experience because people especially drunk people don't really know what to do in that situation so you're at a bar. Do you take off your hat. do you try to find a flag to stand towards you. Put your hand over your heart so it was. It was always amusing for me. Just laughing idiots trying to just figure out how you're supposed to behave when some asshole played the national anthem at a shady bar. So that's that's a good one. I honestly just making this up. Because i call Ever hearing the national anthem when irish bar closed. But maybe it's the thing to they brought it in afro you consistently disappoint me with your irishness. Yeah know what fucking corner because for you hung out that dublin. No-no douse listen. Maybe if you're a cool nor side dubbed like me you know a few things dot this tradition by changing the national anthem to closing time by some ice on it So that would be good classic. It already is kind of like i mean. That's that's the go-to i think in like minneapolis. Right year. that song every time you go to the bar like oh time. People in minneapolis are absolutely obsessed with semi. Sonic which i imagine. It's just because the cold has frozen their brains and they've ceased to function properly. Humans seems relevant to modern. America's darsur also joining us today. Jake sear. Jake how's it going man. How's that catchphrase trademark yet. I'm jake going down to the patent office. Tomorrow i like the different inflection that you kind of plan with their. I think i think he's got a real money maker on your hands it's true. Hey question how do we feel about the of the canadian national anthem boring. Yeah it's not offensive but it's not particularly exciting. I guess you could say that about almost anything canadian at this point can't even conjure up a memory of they don't use god save the queen. They moved all that standard great over two words though canada. That's all you need. Oh canada that's okay. I just forgot. I guess that clarifies might might excitement of talks on that national that i completely forgot it existed. So you you gotta end on like a big note right and with us in america. It's the land of the free home of the brave blah blah blah blah. That's shit and in canada. It's were you stunned on god. It's like what are you. What are you garden man. I don't know it just it just kind of standing around. It doesn't it doesn't have that immediacy to it. This point for covid positive. Americans sneak over the border for it's Yeah that's true. I think finally it makes sense. People finally wanna go there now. I like canada if anybody in canada wants to give me a job so get citizenship. I'm available optimism. Vaccine gmail.com for all the job offers. You wanna send me. I have no applicable skills. At all. I do have. My boss. gave me a large bottle of homebrew beer for christmas. Which i am drinking right now i. It's not bad is the shock of the century. It's it's pretty. It's pretty damn good. Pretty boozy too so not that my bosses listening but it's good shit. Shout out of boss. Beer normally get home brew beer and it's either like flat as faulk or super over carbonated and this actually tastes good. It's well-balanced carbonated while it's bizarre. But anyways we're supposed to be talking about movies right. That's what this podcast about when we should start now extensively fuck it. Let's let's talk. Brought my bosses beautiful while you guys can't buy it but i'll sit here and drink it now. Let's we watch christmas movies. It's christmas what the fuck you think we're going to do so yeah we watched kirk cameron's saves christmas. Same you'll like. Christmas has been hijacked by all the commercialism and those who wanna replace merry christmas. Happy holidays. Or season's greetings whatever that means a carjacking but like of our religion and guess what santa got into car kicked go lynn bowling berlin and took the took it is i. I just want to say i'm not done playing the charlie but this wants twice as long as the trailers normally are. Because it's full of shit that i knew would piss you guys off time. Somebody spoke up this christmas dive head first into all of the joy. I love dancing. The celebration the feasting the imagination and traditions that glorify the true reason for the season miles. What's the true reason for the season. According to kirk cameron. We've got to celebrate for when god took material form by embracing materialism thesis of this film. So good it's so good. I mean pe- people listening. I think that's a joke and that we're like taking jackson. Simplify but that's literally is the easiest of the closing rejoinder to take away. Is that materialism is good. Because jesus wants basically god's material form this just kirk cameron's capitalist christmas. It's basically an entire screed against natal. A kind of counterpoint. That you should never feel bad about spending a lot of money having nice things at christmas. Because that's actually everything you want to do for. Christmas is actually worshiping. God and that's it so by everything and it's new age gospel of prosperity. Which i love because you know me. I'm a big. Tammy faye bakker guy and jim baker guy so this really spoke to me on a lot of different levels but yeah. That's that's pretty much it. That's the whole thing. Is you would think the traditional christian route to take here would be like. Oh you can't call it x. We got to put the christ in christmas or needed to recenter on. Jesus no no no. That's that's an old school contemporary christian way of thinking of the holiday. Let me let me twisted back for you. And the way it is. Now is all the santa claus. Christmas tree stuff. That's actually good. And through the power of kirk cameron storytelling. We learned that. Christmas trees and santa claus at all comes back to the big guy. The j. man turns up their trays in the bible so it must be good. I guess i don't fuck exaggeration. But that's that's the exact connection that mr cameron makes. The cross was made a word and well used his literal summation is that adam a the the fruit the forbidden fruit. And you can't put the forbidden fruit back on the tree native to do that. He would have to put himself back on the tree. Jesus was the last adam and jesus was on tree. If we had seen a guy crucified in like a christmas tree parking lot. I may have been able forgive this movie. But we don't and that is don't rhyme. We don't seriously take this movie. Could effectively be used as like a recruitment. Like i feel like i wanna joy upright. Fuck alvin again. Live behind you. I don't know where you where you stand for that one. It's incredible it's a religious movie that is like like i say it's just it's like kirk cameron invent the stroll matches who has bullied. That are nothing are like just basically like christian. But i don't like santa claus and you know what i do like form which are not aware of this. Unless he's arguing with like fucking danish lutheran or something like this exists. Andy just events this person and then argues very convincingly to their satisfaction. That actually everything you're already doing for christmas is fantastic romance it and that's the whole movie. Well this is this again. This is like the new contemporary christian mold. Because you know there used to be people just like well. My brand christianity is. You can't have this and you can't have that because it's it's a it's a false idol and you can't have a christmas tree because of jesus like these people are really fuck exist and then really if you grow up in this contemporary christian environment say circuit twenty years ago or whatever. It's just like. Hey what if church was just as fucking terrible but yeah you can wear khaki pants and somebody's going to strowman acoustic guitar during the church service. You like albouy. That's great now. This whole new thing is they have to take it one step further and they have to justify literally everything that they that they enjoy all the all the beautiful riches of capitalism that just completely allowed to engulf them so not only that but then you have all the other things going on in here where you're just like fuck like who knew contemporary christian music had gotten this bad. I thought it was bad again like twenty years ago. But here we are it is just completely transcended into something else entirely. It's it's horrifying assault on the senses in every way shape and form and it's terrifying. Well let's let's do it. It's it's great movie really in terms of these like the blackout reach in. It is remarkable thing. The air thursday black guy to maybe. I'm maybe up to a great conversation. Yeah and they ever conversation with conspiracy theories that they're all buying into also talks about how Like he complains about like. I'm not even sure what he's complaining about. But he told very fast because that's kind of like being that noted notable black. Comedians have had success doing in cinema. So he's like basically just trying to be late. Eddie murphy chris talker kinda guy but he's just like babbling about like protesting at work because they're taking away like Fun shirt friday as very relatable humor. He's he's lawyering his his employer taking way To like the civil rights marchers in selma in this really off the cuff thing. That's clearly meant to be funny. But he's deeply deeply stupid thing that just keeps going you think he's gonna stop. hey every scene in the film is like it just continues past point where you think maybe the wrapped up at a no. They start doing bits in slow motion just to extend it even further and also it's worth noting the end credits for the film. Musi like ten minutes long. They have the little credits between the end credits. Any like post credit sequence which is just stretch it to eighty minutes. It's fantastic really. Well planned film shocking. How lame this is and at the same time like i don't i can't imagine the audience for this is particularly large. This this makes me want to go like full. Trad cath you know. Like i just cannot take this brand of a fuck in optimistic weirdo super capitalism christianity. I would even take that Who's that that priests. He's not a priest pastor. Whatever the new song pastor guy the guy who got in trouble because he kept cheating on his wife because he wanna like hang out with justin bieber and run trains on chicks even Not austin he's in austin austin but in like faded like hundred dollar diesel jeans and like a v neck. He's new age aussie but like even that guy would think that this was completely fucking lame. So i don't this is. It's barely a movie too so we have to play my favorite game. Which is how much movie is in the movie. Jake any you want to you. Want to gather a guess here of how much actual movie is in this. Like on a scale of what am i. What am i comparing to well. Let's it's eighty minutes long so of that eighty minutes. How much of this is like a movie because it presents itself as it presents itself as a narrative feature film. We should say that. I don't care. But like you know what i mean like what. What is a movie in this conservatively. A good half of that is to assholes sitting in a car. But that's the movie. I got the asked. Kirk cameron's grand intro wherein he invoked. How hot chocolate over and over again. Because that's something people like. Oh he lists all the stuff they like see. I mean he likes chocolate. He likes christmas trees. I love all the kids. He says that the kids so if you off because that's not really part of the movie. And then i think the movie feasibly ends at the at the point where the hip hop dance crew flies it. I think that's there's twenty minutes brandon dance crew which is just a bunch of white evangelical parishioners who are not updates crew. No this movie it ends so you get get this intro with kirk cameron monologue. And then you have the sitting in the car with the with the little cut-away vignettes and that actually actual meat of it is only like twenty thirty minutes and then literally the entire end of the movie is an extended scene of this. This awful lot of this. I wanted to get to the chorus through the fucking. Excelsior robot voice. It's like what the fuck are we doing. Definitely pull that part out so these that blasted their tab. Yeah it's it's okay hip hop dancing ha ha and whatever this is. It's the fucking worse like the singer. Does that that mid two thousand pop punk thing where you have to older nut average fila ball and your whining voice. It's great. It's just constant nails on chalkboard and all of this just this violence. That's being carried out on. Us is all in service of this weird creepy like hyper-capitalist message and then also they sprinkle in the new jerusalem stuff which i'm really into so that's cool to all my fucking god that the hell of specious logic this film to say the least but this thing where he instructs his brother-in-law to to lie on the ground and look up at the presence under his tree. And yeah and the presence are forming a skyline of the new jerusalem. Jesus christ got. It's like it's it's powerful as viking right now. Basically the whole thing is just like yeah. It's like oh. My god new jerusalem jerusalem jerusalem like sixty nine with netanyahu. It's fucking weird. It's really weird. But also very on brand for contemporary christianity. I'd say it's worth liberty. University all their rounding up front. So you you know. You're in like ben sa- voters you bread there. That's great stuff. It's kind of like the The dreaming like floating seen and first reformed. It's it's very similar. Would you say jack. Yeah absolutely there's definitely feeling weightlessness in after after awhile. You just leave your body and try and find the nearest exit auto or like voiding. Your bowels again. Going back to link going back to like who was for. I mean there's an extended. Like i feel at least ten minutes film is explaining that santa claus is based on a saint. All at house. Thanks to you zone applause in this lord of the rings you guys. It's the same thing. Santa claus is lord of the rings. He's totally jacked. He's constantly walking in slow motion. It's got that like super slow mo homo erotic like three hundred look to it. Everything is just glistening and god. Yeah santa claus. I'm not sure that level art to what's trumps me about this. Bill is like es and eighty minute long infomercial. In his it exists solely the cynical to to kind of push a very specific political agenda. The manufacturer of is just so clearly careless. You know there's nothing here that feels particularly altered or anything. It's just one of the snaps. The julius experience that is also hermetically sealed. If you're not already in the choir you're not welcomed this film. This film is not for anyone who isn't already pretty much incomplete agreement about everything in this movie. There's no way anyone else. Because it's just repellent and incredibly boulder i was. I was trying to think of a reason to actually watch this. I couldn't couldn't come up with one. The only thing i could think of was Kirk cameron's sister. Not candace cameron the one that you know from full house. But one of his other sister's she's in this movie. It's her house where the christmas parties is taking place. And i think she looks a lot like klaus kinski and for that reason alone. Maybe this movies worth watching. She kind of does. But then i realized you can watch the trailer and klaus kinski. Cameron is is in there too. So i i really can't think of a reason to watch to be completely out of a really really confusing elements to me. Is that in the in one of the myriads mid post credit sequences the out takes and the the a doubting palm. I guess christmas the one of the stars the main character alongside kirk cameron glorious savior consumer. Yes 'cause Great is the is the director of the film. Also at one point so we'll just drops reference to the fact that he's jewish and i don't know it's a joke or not this out of character but they just haven't mentioned that you know the going making these films. Maybe jewish which doesn't simplify anything about this text Make any sense and other than maybe feedback into the new jerusalem angle. I e juice for jesus. That's that's a good exist. Say on your mind. He might be because his career and it looks like he made like a couple of like great action movies in the nineties at a couple of like a rap documentary or something in the early two thousand so two thousand seven he switched over like jesus and jesus adjacent productions and i guess that's where he'll be forever more is i can't imagine anyone's going to hire him for anything after watching this like this is just eat. Kirk cameron is is the only only person who would look fondly on this unusual or all the children at i mean this. This is one of those films that exists solely to be. Watch point people who here. That's the only draw of this thing. Yeah well i. I think this is just for kirk cameron. Honestly i believe we talked about. There's there's no real audience for this even even within contemporary christianity. You're kind of really weird niche and when this movie came out in god must've been five six years ago. Kirk cameron was upset. Because the critics who don't know anything they were saying that his movie was shitty shitting all over his movie and the rotten tomatoes score was very very low. And this upset. Mr cameron so he said you know what voice of the people he he. He implored everyone that followed him on facebook to go to rotten tomatoes and give the movie a positive score even if they haven't seen it yet because you have to offset the critics so what ended up happening. Instead was people saw that he was asking his followers to do that. So they just review bombed the user score on rotten tomatoes. To so to this day you'd be hard pressed to find something with a lower score on rotten tomatoes really. It's it's pretty rough so which acura down. Yeah that's great. It's couple a couple of things. I wanted to address real quick so the director who plays the shitty brother-in-law his name is darren. Google his name. One of the top results is a twitter account. We go to that twitter account. The bio has four words in it. I am a tool. It's gotta be you to of jesus or wash. It's probably yeah. The other thing is when we go back at wrench for chris that sequence with the the conspiracy theorists conspiracy theorists because they do this thing where they talk with their mugs in further. Like they're hot. Cocoa mugs their mouths and they start laying out. There conspiracies spoken rhyme. But it's just so like obviously eighty yard because there was no way the guys could spit out their words like perfectly onset so like mumble behind the mug and we'll we'll dub in a studio later and it must have like. I wonder how he takes the tried on the set before they realized that this is not working on and the rabbi forgot. The guy wraps style rob at it is agonizing and and yeah you ate your shit. He could written something down and instead it still sounds like he's making it up on the spot and you're gonna be terror jack. How many times have you seen this movie. Fuck you steve. I didn't i subject myself this several years ago for because i'm just kind of a person which why we ended up zoll nasa optimism vaccine in the first place to be honest and i thought that would be. We'd be done with it. And then i believe jake is to blame now because we do a christmas episode. I'll do christmas episode and then after green you saving. Christmas was on goddamn docket so i had to watch it again because my memory rejected. The first wife wants to get again. Sh- union great question. Ms through us as jack's getting divorce papers stocking this year we do our. We're we're doing. The what is poor. casks next. Steve yeah swimmingly. God if i were. If i were trying to knit well watch this by the fucking sweater. We covered in blood. Fucking jam the needle directly wrist all right well other than watching kirk cameron movies. Another thing that we like to do around here is support. The artistic work of one mel gibson. Isn't that right guys oil. Maybe it's time i retired color. You still have some kissel. The deer rifle two goals in the sleigh wanted me absent loathing for a world cup states. Military would like to procure your services. One time deal just got to give him more than less job. A bad didn't mel won an oscar. And then hollywood was just like yeah. You're a racist pilot. And then but like recently because hacksaw ridge one didn't know or didn't know maybe some tech stuff text oak definitely not for gibson who was nominated for real his. That is a movie. that's almost. I would rank almost as bad as they christmas. But benign as mel gibson is allowed to make a big hollywood movie. Not only does he make it despite being racist piece of shit but then hollywood like yes we have. We have accepted you once again. Come to the oscar ceremony where you are nominated for numerous large awards. And then somehow he falls off the wagon again and two of his movies have ended up on optimism. Vaccines this year. So fat man. It's a christmas movie. Why isn't this funny as i wanted to be. Why isn't fatman. Funnier should yeah. I feel like this is I will say this is not a terrible movie to sit down it was actually pretty slick. It's it's not awful compared to force of nature. The last mel gibson movie we watched twenty twenty. Which is appalling is percents. Yeah this pretty watching but it just seemed like it's coasting on a couple of ideas. It's like it's kind of like the set of obviously off like a it's santa's rio. Santa has a naughty or nice list. He gives this asshole kid cole. Because the kid is just terrible person and the kid is in contact with a hitman. Play walker galkin's some reason. This films are cold blooded hitmen. And he hires him to kill santa clauses. Revenge frigging cool. Meanwhile santa takes on a military contract because manufacturing is down to eighty. I don't quite understand santa's manufacturing downturns. I would feel that will be economic check. It's because the the kids today are rotten. So there's not as much need for gifts. That's that's all i see. I'm sorry this is so anyhow Turf fun ideas in this movie about you. Know like a santa as being you know what kind of a a an industrial powerhouse. The us military tax onto a of putting a hit on him. The hitman got cold coles child and scarred him so deeply announcements his life flying other people's toys and the opportunity to get revenge and kill. Santa is personal quest for him. Ostensibly fun ideas and then i feel like they got this idea that if they played real race it would be a little bit wilder Kind of even more offbeat quirky you know kinda like naked going is like you know everyone plays it straight but the differences those films also had jokes like all third funny things to occur and this film doesn't really have that it's just sort of like it's really just kind of sleek thriller. Were one person happens to be santa claus. It just doesn't make sense. Like adam says there is not really a single joke this talker film but the memory. Miss these only quote though. It's a very unusual balance and it does. It just feels very under coke like they kind of like they wrote filmed number. Can you believe we're making film worse. A kid puts it on santa. And it's gonna like. I can't believe that please write the rest of the film. This is a one hundred percent. This is like the cinematic mendoza line okay. This is the the baseline of acceptability a bad movie. It is not a good movie. It is the most movie movie ever. It's funny situation. That isn't that funny. It's an action movie. That isn't particularly thrilling. And i think the problem that it runs into jack you kind of touched on a two with the fact that they're trying to play it a little bit straight here but there's no jokes at all but for me the idea of okay. There's a there's too many bad kids. Bad people in the world so santa production is down so then the government steps senate's this whole like labor dispute santa claus like that whole thing is its own movie in my head and then on the other side of things you have. The kid gets a lump of coal. He gets pissed off at santa because he's a rich piece of shit he could hire a hitman and the hitman goes after the. It seems like the directors of this movie. Because it's two guys. They sat down in a room and they tried to brainstorm mel gibson christmas action movie. They came up with two separate premises and instead of sticking with one they smash them together. And so you have these two kind of half baked things and you have all of this. This just rising action. That doesn't lead to anywhere and by the time you finally to the big gory. Shootout set piece action part of the of the movie. There's like ten minutes left and then it's just done like that. Yeah absolutely running through the plot of the film. And i think you hit the nail the head like if you described the film to someone the plot you realize you were describing two completely separate elements. There isn't the us contract. Santa works military contract. And there's someone put a hit on santa and there like new overlap between them otherwise and there really is. The only overmatched between them is that that means a hit. Mass kill soldiers to get to santa but literally no. Overlap exclusive kill elves. I think that's the only way. Yeah i gather is i i. Yeah i got no clue that first movie is is essentially barry levinson's toys which is a movie i'm kinda fonda but is a pretty the torius Boondoggle back in the nineties. But maybe that's why they felt the need that they had attack on this sort of assassination element is. It's like well it's didn't play then it's not gonna play now it'll never work remains to your money. It's it's but it's not. I don't know this thing doesn't especially work either. I i enjoyed it well enough. But it's entirely based on performance like yeah organs and gibson are both fund to watch and this movie is it gets by on that and i'm almost glad that they made some of the choices they did in the end because what. I saw the trailer for it. I was like oh god. This is going to be some edge. Lord bullshit like a mark millar script to something. I don't fucking care to watch santa the kingsman or whatever and thankfully it's not that it's it's very strange. Intone doesn't entirely work but at least i'm almost happy to shoot out his last headman. The movie Up is much more enjoyable. You just kind of watching to entertaining actors do their thing and I'm okay with that. It's it's not an spectacular but it's totally passable. I agree one hundred percent with adam. I is canceling hateful. As he is in which they hate to say gibson still remains to such a compelling screen presence. i think him being cast as a grumpy. Grizzled santa claus is kinda perfect and You know goggin Is kinda got the more maniacal role that. He's good at but i think he excels With what he's given an. Yeah it's really just this to handwrite with these two guys. Not going like edge. Lord crazy and i i think the final shootout. I actually like the trailer makes. It seem like it's going to be just. Yeah this big war this like rahm where it's guy trying to blow up santa santa's trying to shoot the guy that's like the whole movie but yeah that only falls in like the final ten minutes and it's actually a pretty. I don't know. I thought it was a pretty well. Done shootout for as brief as it lasts but Yeah i i i enjoyed it but I don't know it's just. It's just kinda their unavoidably vitally important because we haven't touched on were also. Is that the shitty kidding. Hit on scientists at. Who hires his hitman previously to kind of role of a young girl. Who's classmate because this kid is like an adolescent these like or whatever and he hires this hit Hires water gardens in previously to rough up with girl because she beat him in his science fair and he can't stand to lose so he roths up select. She'll say she cheated so he gets it because he got second place and also. This kid is the spitting image of like ben shapiro. Joe that was purpose or not but that is also a pleasant element in the film. I did enjoy that. That the the shitty like very high opinion of himself kid who gets cowell for christmas. Exact route is is basically. Looks like ben shapiro little bit so you know kind of connor mashes in pretty well there but yet i mean the film is just sort of it. Feels like a missed opportunity. But it also goes not great the nerves and i will tell you if you watch it after saving. Christmas really really comes out pretty good. They're pretty solid offer. Share for sure actually watched it last. And i know jax reaction in the chad. I didn't analyze it thoroughly. But i thought it was pretty negative opinion after trailer was like oh boy. I don't really want to watch this. So i had super low expectations going in and i hate it i. It's not a movie. I'll probably ever watch again but you know if you're looking to kill some time over this holiday season you could do a hell of a lot worse Sound like you're going anywhere doing anything anyway so you might as well watch mel gibson shoot. People are not. I feel like the problem. Is that like. It's i feel like people are competing for that market of alternative christmas movies. You know for people leaving the funniest thing in the world is at diehards christmas movie and like how can you believe us. Why favorite christmas movies one with guns. And it's like this feels like it's kind of kind of agent that terror pre but it's also very overtly a christmas movie so why is it. Santa claus is one of the main characters. Clear it is. It's not really part of any alternative. Cower is explicitly holiday movie so yeah which kind of laid back inches an overall feeling. It's kind of feel like this could spend a little bit more time in the alva. Just like fine tune get it all nicely put up. whatever Is not the worst thing i mean. The holidays are good time. Sit around kind of and were food. Co. man this movie certainly certainly be on. Tv why're ya. I suppose the benefit of being half baked is that there was no producer to come in and try and fuck and jazz things up. I was just reading like some sort of fucking rambo l. for something i it's thank god none of that shit as it here. There was at least a modicum of restraint in this film. Yeah i appreciate that as well. I guess my only lingering question is how upset was mel gibson when he found out. Mrs claus is black. That's that's a good question. That is certainly was the feels like a choice. That's the first thing. That's the first thing i thought is like they totally did this on purpose. Just mel gibson just throwing chairs in his trailer on set like god it. What did i say. I told you i would never again. She's not one of the news. That's true yeah. That would've gone over way whereas i mean but but then i guess that was the balancing. The counterbalance right was okay. Well we made. The kid looked like ben shapiro. So maybe that'll i but then melts kind of conservative. so i it's just that aga- with with mel overtly threatening per possible jewish child now poison. It's even darker. And honestly i we. Jewish children no get cold for christmas. Arriva that late tonight. This opens the room for the hannukah off to explain all that is true. You so there's a whole cinematic universe here. They'll gives what a piece of shit but he does grizzled alcoholic guy better than all. Sending mel looked good standing next to occur. I that's all it takes. That's all it takes. Well i guess. I guess are onto our last movie here for christmas. And what if. I told you guys that you could have home alone but more violent and a little bit on the french side of things. What do you think of that happy birthday who sing it. Body only and walk. Sorry i feel it's important here. Steve is that that is on the fringe on things. Laid a bony tyler. christmas song. Frankly none of this after said nope it doesn't end. Yeah i mean. I kind of had to play the bonnie tyler song because it's super weird and two. It's a french movie. We all play the trailer. You're not gonna know what the fuck movie or i think. This song was written by the director as well so perhaps it doesn't translate well in english because i don't know what the fuck no this is a. This has big time like when you're watching a movie with subtitles on. The song is playing and they translate the lyrics. Oh yeah. I definitely wanted to see. What what they're saying in this taiwanese pop song with this little. This absolutely could have gone. I mean specifically this could have gone a vision which held in may like this would have been the perfect song to enter like happy birthday christmas in may would i honestly could have won She confronts never win the division one of the rules on that politics assigned. This would have been a solid entry and this is like okay so happy birthday. Christmas is a very strange line to have in your song but truly the all lyrics in this are completely deranged. I would floor you to google them. Look them up. This is this is some serious shit but the entire song is done in. Jesus you'll be one day now. You're just a little bob. You're burning wings will spread. You will be a man. It's this weird like it almost like ties into the movie right. It's like a cursor. Charlie day music for it's always on night man. Well i mean we have also like put the song into context when it plays in the film I mean itchy even issue we begin to discuss. What this this this miracle from echo you detroit. Yeah is okay. we'll fine. It's about a boy named thomas who is he's like If richie rich were a rambo fan. He's got he's got a sweet eighties mullet he's got Like i just a secret dungeon of toys in weaponry. And he's basically outfit is is house with like booby traps in steel. Gating and stuff basically. He's in action loving kid with hyper madge nation. But he's really excited for santa. Visit to see what he'll get Meanwhile a deranged homeless man takes on the santa costume in randomly picks the house one night with the intention of invading and killing the occupants. This leads to a war between the kid and santa claus where he's using his labyrinthine mansion to get around and not be slain. I by father christmas It's got a new release out from vinegar syndrome which has been lovingly restored. And this movie is fucking crazy and It pretty much fucking rules might difficulty explaining this film. Like i mean the plot you outlined the plot and that's like okay. We're sure what i don't understand. This film seems to draw that specifically killing santa claus is a right of passage. She would busted. You're like i. What the what is this about. Eating literally killed santa claus the free four hundred blows but a freeze frame but like i am a man now because i think i murdered santa and i added to well i mean. Isn't that like one of the last things that children believe in santa claus in nets this not. Jv i'm going use to break to my kids. That santa is not real. I mean that that almost makes sense said that one of the first thing. Santa claus does is stabbed kids dog in the throat. Yeah the the bonnie tyler song plays when he buries his dog in the basement. More bizarre things is the again. I appreciate the hell out of this. Because it does everything right for director and cinematographer who essentially done nothing since or before it. Just it's so tight. It follows all the rules essentially. And it's just beautiful shot and looks beautiful even characterization stuff like you could characterize this maniacal santa as such but even in the end they try and breathe a little wife into this character. He's like he thinks he's just playing hide and seek with this kid. It's just yeah. The guys got off his rocker. let's just like bloodthirsty maniac. He just he just wants to fit in. Yeah he thinks he's boy at heart kitty that he doesn't recognize the havoc. He's ricky go bust. This is very touchable in oakland with them. Getting a snowball fight with the children. All the children leave because obviously he's just some crazy old man. Yeah i guess. I guess my disconnected the fill in. It's just the like. I just don't understand the concept of actually merge threatening santa claus because he does kill the dog and is chasing the cia and he does appear threat the entire to be extremely dangerous and has to defend himself in kill him and annette's outlined like the very real not metaphorical very real active. Killing a man is kind of like well brings this child to adulthood which isn't really a universal message. Outside of i guess some of the more were torn parts of the world and some very weird like france is not particularly for like a right of passage of having to an murderer person although ensure wonder if the intent though because i feel like the rambo imagery has some significance. You know like. I feel very worried. Subverting that in a way and actually exploring the trauma. This meeting out on. This kid is gonna come out the john rambo from this that i mean. That's actually a really good point and on the vinegar syndrome. Blu ray i watched. There's a An interview with the director. And that's one of the things that stuck out to me. They were like why. Why did you include the beginning. This this whole like sequence that basically is a shot for shot just stuffer rambo stuff from predator. Whatever and he said that at the time he felt like children's superheroes were demonstrably different from the superheroes that he had when he was a kid so he was just like i like zorro and the lone ranger and they were you know campy and silly and they beat the bad guys and there is violence. But there's a softness everything and he's like whereas like kids now they just like they like rambo and rambo is like a completely broken man and so that was. The idea is is yeah. I mean the kid is essentially. He's he wants to be like his fantasy. His violent fantasy is being this person who the whole thing behind john rambo is. He's got horrible. Ptsd like that's that's the character. So yeah that's that's pretty much it. It's kids want to be a soldier who scenes shit also store. Yeah well. I mean. I think he kind of he easing e he wants to embrace the cool action stuff of rambo but yeah he doesn't realize oh the ptsd comes with the territory. Yeah exactly can't ruined. You can't just capture your dog with a net forever. Eventually you're going to have to murder santa. it's true. I let me just say i was not expecting this film that featured close up of glistening child muscles while a french cover of i the tiger his playing contract. This is weird because it's not a cover. It is technically at original song. But this is. This is not eye of the tiger. You ready for this. It's just an eye of a tiger played minor key that's fucking song unwitting Yeah i mean again to restate this film is it looks incredible. It's got dissing wonderful like rich saturated color pal. It's all in this like soft. Shimmering focus is gonna busy glamorous look to a lot of all. Miniature work is incredible. It's this it's this incredibly ornate zoom in. It's just this sort of just to i any France does not have a rich genre film. A straight something. French peewit acknowledge like france. They have shown filmed. Certainly that have been made. But they're not like you know at the american vote making horror or gangster or films wrench tend to move between those things and this is a really great example of something. That's like a christmas movie. Kinda like home alone clearly. Which came after this. There's some question whether this was influence. You know john cues may be solved this film and clearly cleaned it up a little bit for american consumption. It's a film that exists in this realm of like how who who did they explain this to and they're like i am giving you money to do this now and clearly a considerable amount of money. I mean this is not a low budget looking film and you know the french film industry. Which is you know large. But it's not known for blockbusters. This is a really impressive looking. Fill so the is it for children like who. Is this before we get into. Is it for children. And i would say it's for me what i'm like years old but i don't want my mom to know i'm watching it. This movie was not made for a lot of money which blows my fucking mind. So the director rene manzoor. He made a movie in one thousand nine hundred eighty six called the passage and it was just kind of a cheap any movie essentially but he got a lane lawn to star in it and you probably know him from. I mean he was in zoro's in the leopard. Who was famously samarai. Yeah so very famous. French actor and critics hated it. The shit all over it but it made a lot of money so he was in this weird position where he couldn't really get funding because like the the french critical elite. They were just like no. No no not this guy but he. He had proven that he was a success before and on top of that he decided that he wanted to make a john reform. Because like you said jack. There weren't really any in france and he thought that was a good idea because there weren't any but it complicated matters further because You know they wouldn't give any money to do one. So this movie was basically made with him and his producer from the passage and a little help. From mr elaine dhillon himself and all the money that they made from the passage they basically just shoved it into this movie so it barely had any funding. But if you look at it you'd be like oh my gosh. The french government just gave them a blank check. It looks that good. it's wild. Yeah like tracking shots man. This thing is gorgeous. Makes me like it makes me a fuck. No one knows how to make movies anymore. Yeah i would kill the live. If i saw this as an eleven year old boy i would kill to live in this house. It is act and there's just a lot of like cuts from going out of that house like on the window and it will go up in around like the roof to the other side of the house. It's some real awesome ten shit Yeah it's really years left near you wanna live in house with the day before pre breaking but like a dog with like he's got the secret room with the bridge and all the toys scattered about with the plane generations of toys. Sign the move see. Here's how much focused brogan but being this nonsensical podcast adventure. One of the one of the fills of this. This this movie reminded me 'cause akitas like a a whiz kid. He communicates with a stranger violating mini taylor public computer terminal which i have no idea if that was ever a real thing in france or real shit. It was like proto french internet. Okay so yeah that's right. This reminded me of jumping. Jacks hash is the son of a bitch. Why would goldberg while. I'm watching this deranged french. We love whoopi. Tanko gotta keep it on hand. That's right always always have the homer at the ready one day. We're going to make a million dollars in this podcast. And i'm going to invest in a giant like eight foot long mixing board. But it's only gonna have one button and the buttons gonna say homer and i'll just we've made if we make a million dollars sue us for us entirely possible. See this this is what drives me. Nuts about your. You're saving crispus here. Why do we have to save christmas with had so many angles to approaches. God like Genre christmas we have gone with some sort of little. Lord roy christmas these other two movies have through lives that we had to fuck. Watch that damn abortion. We love. kirk cameron man. Come on sing. What's what's the show that he was on growing pains growing pains right. Show me that smile again. Show me fine. Don't no though mirrored on you cry. I mean come on. That's like a great theme song right. It is and the per production logo at the end of growing pains was just a guy falling off the roof of his house And there's a guy named boehner on that show kirk cameras. Best friend's name is boehner. Cool will a guy fall of houses. Great through this movie were a kid menus onto the gable of his house also adamantly just want to say that he calling kirk cameron's movie and abortion is surely gonna offend him greatly and made him very sad mission accomplished movie. This movie was it. Came to full-term was adopted. Thank you very much. So growing pains is responsible for us. Having to deal with both robin. Thicke and kirk cameron in a roundabout and leonardo di caprio. Wasn't he on growing pains. He's not quite the seasons monster that the other two are poza. That's true all baby but yet this is dial code. Santa claus is is fun. It's a cool movie really good really good check it out. It got it. Looks amazing to like. i mean. i'm sure you could find a cheap rip of this wherever it looked fine on. Vhs or wherever you can get it but if you get a chance to vinegar syndrome. Four k is it looks. Amazing amazing remain shudder. I'm not sure if it's the same transfer or not but it is high quality. Yeah yeah all right boys well. I think it's about time we wrap things up that sound am. I thought we were going to do another hour. On kirk cameron we can i mean. Let's not let's talk about his interactions with children. All the kids mars. What do you put over this week. you know hot. Cocoa stuff can't get enough to put over cyberpunk and i even played a lot of. I haven't been playing a lot of it. I but too busy drinking hot cocoa. Now i suppose the answer is a lot of people probably want like good. Rpg alternative or santen. So i h bomber guy. One of the a better critics on youtube ajeti review fallout new. Vegas that's worth a listen but also you know if you're looking for a really deep good. Rpg that doesn't involve like fairies. Dragons fallout new vegas. It's really good and you know it's been out for like a decade so they actually worked out the bugs. Unlike certain other games are jake. Would he put over this week. I'm just gonna kinda go. Classic and put over shop around the corner the earn slew film from nineteen forty. The jimmy stewart sullivan Watched it for the first time for blind spots the other podcast. They do with the strauss of filming. Corey loved it. It's great scuttled good. Warm time and Yeah i highly recommended shop. Putting over outside jake tapper off. We let them finish. I'm going to put over. Jake's puna were leading jake finish up his over. I'm i'm gonna put over at just random albums listened to a lot. I'm just gonna put over classics signals calls and marches mission of burma. It's amazing everyone. Who's listening to knows. It's amazing but just listen to it again. It's better than you remember to put over one. See they're only quality from this corner Nothing but the good stuff. I'm gonna put over while over two things i'm gonna put over. I put over adam. My rose who does a wonderful job editing. The show and is going to have a lot of fun this time around as he deals with me singing loudly like bonnie tyler into my microphone causing it to peak in distort. I'd also like to put over. And this is gonna sound really stupid but just go with me on this vinegar syndrome. Put out a beautiful version of the beast master. And i'm sure thinking to yourself. The beast master was just mediocre when i was twelve. Yeah it was okay. But not only. There's the movie looked great but in addition to that this may be. I don't know one of the best single film packages. I have ever held in my hands. Rivaled only by the the dawn of the dead set. That second site put out last month. But this is. I mean it's gorgeous. It's this kind of like box that opens up and there's there's a hardcover like insert with multiple dys- and then it's got the magnetic shut. Okay if you have a blu ray case with a magnetic closure on it you're holding nothing but quality so bee's master on four a and blu ray a beautiful piece of work i want to. I want to kiss it. I want to impregnate the blu ray. And that's what i got boys so if you're listening to a podcast right now do us a big favor. There's a couple of links in the description. The first one will take you to our itunes page. We need your help dear listener if you have not had a chance to already because i believe you can only do a want certain counts wants. Please go to our. I tunes page. Give us a five star written review. It will take you approximately five seconds to accomplish this task. Okay all you click the button. Five stars bright. Something right anything you want you can say i would like to put over adam. Myrow sees a beautiful angel. That's i wrote it for you. There it is and when you do that it tells itunes to push us up in the rankings and give us a better placement with their psychotic algorithm and then more people can hear our content and then more listeners. We have the more things we can do for you. The other link that she will find in this description will take. You are patriotic page. And if you go to our patriot on page You can give us money if you want. And that would be great because podcasting is super super expensive and i understand. It's a pandemic. you don't have a lot of money get it get it. You don't have to give us money. But i i heard Dj is sending you six hundred bucks. If i'm not mistaken. So why don't you give three of those to us. if you want to. You could try and pay your rent or buy groceries. I guess if you want if you've got to that's kind of person you are but anyways if you subscribe patriot if you got a little extra cash throw us. That will give you access to the private optimism. Vaccine patriotic feed all kinds of articles their whole backlog or content brand new content coming as well so all kinds of exclusive things that you can only get as a patriot subscribers so highly recommend checking that out and you can even give us more than three dollars if you give us five dollars twenty dollars. You can be in special club of people who get their name. Read out loud on. The optimism vaccine podcast. Youtube could be a dustin or paula. And jack every day your life. Don't you say. I want to be a paula every day every day. That's right so yeah check it out and if you have any questions. Comments threats marriage proposals optimism. Vaccine g mail dot com is the place to send those at my roses waiting hidden refresh. It's all he ever does. You can also tweet at us at optimism vaccine and with that jake last word words yours. Show me that smile girl. I love all the kids. Never explicitly called kirk cameron childless right. Now for a small. Don't change kids too she lying. It's hard to be. Welcome the to the off. Ma got a was the movie known talk income.

kirk cameron santa claus santa mel gibson jerusalem canada ben shapiro atta myrow Bro martin schick vincent skier vincent ski Jackie bag jack Jake sear adam lynn bowling klaus kinski Tammy faye bakker mr cameron austin america
Jarom Sidwell | Hollywood Visual Effects Genius Behind Avatar, The Avengers, The Hobbit, etc.

Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

33:41 min | Last month

Jarom Sidwell | Hollywood Visual Effects Genius Behind Avatar, The Avengers, The Hobbit, etc.

"Andrew on today's your interview. Hollywood visual effects genius honeybee three of in japan. The hobby lobby ilab movie transformers in many other these that our listeners. Now it's going to be a laser our interview today with jerem singer. Are you ready. i'm so ready. Did he do any work with the Hit movie zoom with tim allen. Apparently you're not getting an andrew. I'm gonna try it again. Okay on today's show. We are interviewing the hollywood visual effects. Genius behind some of the top grossing films of all time. This is the guy who worked on the movie. Avatar andrew talking about the movie avengers k. Then we're talking about the movie hobbit and your we're talking about the man of steel movie. We're talking about transformers. This guy is a hollywood visual effects. Genius and you're asking me if this guy worked on the movie zoom's great movie. How many times have you seen the movie. Zoom like one times. You know anybody else. Do you know anybody else's seemed to movies. I've watched on. No i mean i've watched it. It's all quite easy job without any further ado. I promised today's show. We'll get better get ready to enter the drive time. Show selena down the bottom now on the top. The sisters to give what we got books books sees bringing some. Don't look at the father of. that's why i'm a dive. So if you see my kids please tell them to see and see now three to what. Yes yes yes and yes my today show. I could not be possible. Could not possibly be more fired up about today's guest. Need a special air now misdeeds special effects i need sound effects i need lasers i need a lot of affect. I need this sound effect. I need this sounded all these things. I can't explain. I am. I need a megaphone. This guy has worked on these these movies that all the kids are talking about okay. He's the hollywood visual effects genius behind it. Tell me if you've heard of these movies because you probably i was gonna say kids and adults have heard you probably maybe you have. I mean erin. You don't get out very much. i don't get very much. We're out there running businesses. we don't even. Have you heard of that little movie. The kids are talking about called avatar. I think i've heard of it. Yeah what about The avengers that's come across my radar. What up man of steel. Call me that the hobbit they don't call me transformers heard of that one. Okay yeah now. Thirty further do jerram said. Well we'll come onto the thrive time show. How are you sir. Quite possibly the best production i had ever had. We'll brother i mean i i was just looking at your bio the work you've done you know your your portfolio. It's it's pretty amazing. Do you ever intimidate yourself. No no. I don't know. I'm i'm a rail. Thin six foot six guys. So there's nothing nothing intimidating about me. Okay okay. well. I'm just saying if i was if i was the man who had done a lot of special. Thanks for these movies. I look in the mirror everyday and say well done okay. So tell me. They're the where where do you. Where do you start. where did you come from. And you're making all these big time movies but where did you where did you. Where'd your career come from our. We're we're where'd you grow up. So i i grew up from. I'm from northern california and When i was in college. I really wanted to go into international business so i was getting getting prep for mba and doing a german major. And i was like this is boring. Yeah and and. I said i need a little bit more creative outlet that you know and and so i kind of put aside my dreams of kind of going over to europe and living over there for a while and and Just started getting into film and Right when i graduated a move down to la and got a job in the mailroom fall places he had to wear a suit and tie college degree and you had to staple resumes to head shots and and deliver them up to the agents. And i thought oh man I'm going to go and try to get into visual effects as quick as possible. So i interviewed a bunch of places and digital domain which was started by james cameron for the titanic. They hired me on. And i got onto. The first film was zoom. Which i don't know about that wasn't included in your intro. I'm not sure if you zoom one. I've not seen zoom. have you seen zoom. Never heard of it. Okay back to jerry. Yeah well it didn't do so great. So i thought oh no this is this. What hollywood really's like it had a big bridget and not a big box office but soon thereafter transformers came and i was like this is amazing. Childhood dream I love it. And and then went into commercials into target commercials in energizer and t mobile them in new zealand. And that's where. I live down there for three and a half years worked on avatar in the avengers and tinton steven spielberg and that was a dream was a tim. Allen and zoom the yeah. That's right you have courtney cox chevy chase i. I feel like that might be one of the be. I mean i hate to oversell it by that. Might be one of the best movies of all time. It's just right. Just a little bit edgy. Let me let me play the trailer. Real quick thinking about going to see zoom this weekend. Let me cue it up. Nearly two day may look like ordinary kids. I'm just trying to live ordinary lives. She'd like to finish newton's equation. I want to see this different. We've been tracking an object. That seems gorge. Our planet reactivating diseases program will make them heroes. You got to save the world. There's a lot of big big time people in this movie. I mean chevy chase. Courtney cox Tim allen i mean it seems like you've got a lot of big time. Where can people go to see your portfolio website. People can go to right now. They can kind of look at some of the stuff you you do. While they're listening today show Sure mean they can check me out on on. Imdb if they want jerem sidwell or they can go to immersive history dot com and that'll have some information there immersive history dot com. Yep i'm going there right now. Engage with the bible like never before is that it. Yeah that's it. Yeah okay and then this and you did all this stuff here. Yep yep so right. now. I'm looking at it can i. I'm going to play real quick. i wanna play. I wanna. I wanna can't stop myself cool so you interact and engage with the bible like never before with the immersive bible at play. Interactive bible games with the entire family engage kids with digital puzzles coloring pages sticker books and more are not into there's scratching sniff stickers up here okay no but seriously what you so you then you you you start working there for the james cameron and when did you start figuring out how to create visual effects. I think i'm still figuring that out. Now it's it's it's tough but Yeah i think. I think when i when i went down to new zealand and and started working on. Avatars is when it really like blossomed. You know that there was some big movies down there. Like like saying like the avengers in avatar and whatnot. And i there. There's there's such a buzz around avatar. You know they were doing jon. Landau james camera during such a great job at promoting the film right and there is so much work in technical effects and hurdles to overcome internally that It just Cloud nine riding this wave till it released in. Obviously you know for a while. It was the biggest film out there. Do you did you. What was your role in making that movie. Was it your call to make the people who make the avatar people balu was at your deal. What what did you do know that. That was not my deal. That's obviously directors call So i was like production manager producer on that so My job was to make sure that all the shots were getting organized that We didn't forget any characters The largely optics or that That was the big dragon thing in there right. We show all the shots james cameron. He would approve me. Give us notes in the Manji team about one hundred twenty five animators To make sure that we cranking through and getting you know making the film on time under budget and according to what. Mr cameron wanted my understanding. Is that mr. camera now. You you correct me. If i'm wrong here but james cameron is really a guide. Only makes a movie. He doesn't make a lot of movies. But the movies he makes are massive. And so it's like you know the terminator movie correct right. He did terminator right. This james can it avatar. He did a titanic correct. I mean he does these epic movies. And what i hear And you can find this stuff on read at. You can find it all online. Some people hate working for james cameron and some say it was a life changing experience because he works he works so hard and roy sets the tone for what is what. It's like to make a huge hit movie. What was it like working with james. Cameron awesome is absolutely awesome He i mean yeah he can. He can be hard and i think it's just because he knows exactly what he wants. He's built movie out in his head. He's built the movie out in previous or storyboards right and he knows exactly what he wants and so he's just expecting you put in just as much work and time and Know love that he puts into it to to make the movie right. And i you know the all movies that you mentioned all had a really good box office hits and were number ones for a while. Now james cameron again just for the folks that aren't aware of this. He has the second and third highest grossing films of all time with avatar. and titanic. So it's crazy. What what. What did your work schedule. look like. They're jerem when you're working with james cameron. Were you getting up. You know like five. Am we what a typical workday look like. When you're working with and for james cameron the movie business is is notorious for its long hours We were working about eighty hours. A week You know fifty to sixty was was standard and then during crunch time you know jump up to eighty maybe eighty five hours but yeah. There's there's i mean you you look at the shots. And there's a thousands and thousands of visual effects shots in thousands of thousands of of assets. Where if you if you look at a shot in there you've got to create everything digitally in a film avatar right and so there's just a massive team. We had twelve hundred people on the show cranking out models at doing the textures like Yeah i think the textures present mandatory but then lighting compositing animating and so all that stuff just goes into creating the perfect shot that then gets director approved and get slotted into the film so you are was terms of computers. I mean it's gonna be unbelievable computing power you guys using a concord are was it the was it. The camp was the. What was the computer back. In the day it was a it was a commodore. A commodore sixty four are using a cartridge atari system. Where you would you blow. We put the cartridge in are using floppy disks. What technology are you guys using over there. We've kind of swapped those out and upgraded them a little bit in there. The the amount of stores that it takes. i mean. we're we're into the pedal bites right for the film who that's not like a pedophile. Hundreds of terabytes. Okay and and that's just like i was saying all those assets going together and then if you can imagine like a target or a walmart or like a costco-sized room full of rendering machines where you would just you know kick off the shot and it would render on this on this farm. That's what we call we. Call the render farm enter. Just turn away. Sometimes it's thousands of hours to render through The shots just so. It's got all the detail that we want. I have a sound live audio. I believe of your render farm working limit queue up hero quickness. The audio of the i went into the reform they got. What what year did you shoot avatar. What year was it. There was a two thousand nine. So yeah like seven. Eight ish old audio. We've taken several seconds to vet what we believed the audio of the render formerly queued up. Real let me get a render farm. It's gonna get it to make sure it's a rendering and then got like a visit. This is making the avatar booth. It was green jancis. Switzer to blow. And he's sleds it to blow sir and you hit enter and then it just because you've got mail that's how that's how it works. Is that what it sounds like in there. It's almost like that. That's why most of visual effects artist wear headphones so they can just unbelievable. It's almost romantic. Audience okay so twelve hundred people working on the movies twelve hundred people. Yeah yeah. And i'm not asking how much you get paid. I just wanna know how you get paid. Do you get paid based off. A percentage of the sales does this james round up and say listen here folks. You guys are gonna be working eighty hours a week and you jokers. Aren't going to be making anything unless this movie is huge. And then if the movie's huge. I'm gonna split revenue with you. Or does he pay you in terms of like trade outs. Does he say look guys. I got a good deal on batteries and atari gear. I'll give you guys traits. How do you get paid for a movie like this now. That's a great question so typically individual facts even on films where that where it's you know. Full cg ninety five percents of films full cd That's just a contract basis in. It's you know you you get you get paid. You estimate out the film and say okay. I guess this is gonna cost. You know ten million dollars and You try to work with an app that budget and you know the the above the line. People like the studio and james cameron john they all get percentage points in based on the performance of the film they'll get A little bit off the top there now. Because there's video effects are becoming more of the main part of the film that is changing on certain films where the visual studio. The visual effects house is getting some percentage points for contributions to the film. You know with the new changes here. A lot of these films being mostly computer generated I'll just say this. Our guest is now doing well. Jeremiah got audio. this is a view. going out to i believe in and out burger the other night There where you live out in california are you in california from and i'm back and forth between california but right now i'm in utah with the team. Okay let me just audio engine. This is Jerem hanging out with the guys. It's the pay raise. Let me just cute out. He's got spinners. The car stops with the wheels rolling. Gone and i mean he's got platinum grills shiny and he just you still have to get the upper and lower to do both here of course of course and then he goes in and they say. Hey hey hey seriously. How many hamburgers do you want. He says all of any tricks at the base the sub. Woofer that guy are you that god germ do you drive off the subject. That is footage of me right. This is a digital animation. Tell this is the real deal. This is what it's like. I mean a big baller. Do you make your friends. Refer to you as mr jerem or do you talk in third personnel. What changes have you made. No no actually. It was what can kind of fun is is kind of gone off on my own on the last few years and really got into virtual reality I i love films. And they're awesome right. But i was really intrigued Five six years ago when bridge reality kind of became a buzzword right and so started my own company right which is immersive history. yup Really wanted to make immersive experiences. That put you in as the character in that in that You know quote unquote film right. But now it's now it's a game so you really kind of become the character rather than just watching the character in and it's it's been a really fun journey and that's where you know. Dvd concrete giants is virtual reality game spawned because we wanted to take these epic stories from history and put Put you as the player as that character. So you become david the young shepherd boy. Trying to fight off wolves and bears and lions and giants. Omb i is there a website that we can check out without getting scared i mean. Is there a website. We can go to to to see to see the game the kind of experience what is gonna look like. Is there a yes go to. Dvd g the game dot com dvd. The game dot com. I'm going. They're scared scared. It's who interact with me. I mean it's rated rated e for everyone right to eat pimp less and so it's it's you know it's friendly. It's not wow. Let me look at this. This is really cool and this is now. I understand you make games that are clean and fun. So it's not like these. Go around you you you you shoot up people you rape and pillage. This isn't a rape and pillage game right. It is not no no zombies. No zombies i mean you got you gotta lion right but Easy he's hungry line but we really wanted to make a wholesome game that And and every game that we do from here on out we wanted it to be family focused in and friendly so that everybody can play together in fact It's been kind of fun in the play test right. I mean you know in movie screen in movies you have screens beforehand and get the audience. Take on it too. But we'll we'll make a version of the game and then play tested and As part of the game we'll have the story right in this part of the story. Is jessie your father talking to you. About how important the sheet bar and so he talks about you know the flock is your family and every sheep is precious and kind of you know drilling these these morals and values end you so that you know. Hey you have to save your sheep in order to beat the game but it's been fun to watch these playtex was kind of talk about that later you know. Parents with their kids are like. Hey what does that mean that. Every sheep is precious. And who is your sheep. And who's part of the flock and so it's been a great success for us because we're like. Hey look it's a it's a wholesome family friendly game. The parents aren't afraid to let their kids play with and is providing a platform for these larger discussions. Now jerem we have a time here. We have five questions in five minutes. Most of them are going to be coming from. People smarter than me moving forward. So here we go eric. This is the man who's running shaw homes. The largest homebuilding company in oklahoma and ryan wimpy is growing the ever expanding dog training business. He happens to be a christian business owner. So is aaron anti so guys as you does your accountability partner. Please less cursing than the normal aaron. Anti what question do you have for for jerem here. Yeah so obviously. Sounds like a highly who wouldn't wanna work with. James cameron highly competitive field. That you're in so when did you. I feel like you truly were beginning to like get traction in your career and like how did that part happen because i think for most people is like how would i break into the yeah. That's that's a great question. It's you know in a way that i broke just kept knocking on doors right until they actually let me in Persistent breaks down. Ruthenians persists definitely thing right even after you have a job stained persistent because like i said. There's a ton of technical hurdles that come up in each film and each game have a different Different problems to solve right And but as far as when. I finally feel like i i made it. I feel like i feel like. I'm i have little hurdles right Every once in a while. I'm like oh great on transformers which was for me. That was a step up from from zoom And then when i got onto avatar is like awesome and then now when you know we're releasing our first know virtual reality game to the stores to steam in oculus. I feel like that's another step where i'm like. Hey i am making it again. I'm making little little by little. I don't know if we'll ever feel like. Hey i made it. And i can sit back and put my feet up on the. But it's it's been a fun journey for sure. Okay ryan wimpy. You've heard he threw down. The gauntlet is a great question. Now it's not it's not like we're trying to compete with each other to have questions but seriously asked better question. Well i had a question about the immersive history. What ages that four for does So dvd's the game is for e ten plus that's because it's vr What does he. Ten main means for ages ten and over And that's just because of a little bit of the cartoon violence when you hit the wolf. They're like no. It's kind of like a wylie. Coyote looney tunes type of. What does it do. What does the eastwind everyone everyone every man i can write that down erin one up ryan please ooh so i'm curious this is obviously a deviation going towards the virtual reality in obviously it's biblically based so what made you want to transition in that direction towards something different than where you were already starting to get traction is it some spiritual beliefs that you have is it something that's just been in your heart for a long time like what made you smell. It was a scratch and sniff circle no It was really interesting. I was i was in a bible. Study group and He the teacher was talking about you know. Jesus cleansing temple in and I was looking around the room and everybody kinda tuned out but there was so much knowledge being brought and i was like this is amazing and because everybody is tuned out. I was like wait what what's going on and ask myself. The question is like well why. What's why not paying attention. And i felt this this little inner voice right. Hey will you made you know. Virtual worlds like pandora. Why don't you make this one for me. And so started down that path of like well. Let's rebuild ancient jerusalem. And you know and as i was building that i kind of got the with the goal in mind and more inspiration to say. Well let's start to put characters in there and make it so. People are living these stories from the bible to what. Brian was pretty. Good question even better answer pretty good. Go ahead one up here. And i mean. Let's let's be little french right uh-huh question do you have there well when it comes to the vr. So i've never actually put one on right. So is that You saying it's for people. Tend enough is that is that just because of what they can handle their mind or they don't want like you know look to little kids with ipads and stuff or is that because it was scary. What what was that. I know that maybe not the best question. But i don't. Of course jon is good as much. So it's it's a what's really unique about david versus goliath right. This game is that the movement set is very active. And so it takes a little bit of coordination like you pumped your hands to walk in that so that it feels as real as possible. You pump your hands. You're using a sling motion right like you know Like like you're throwing rocks on on the little bit of a rope right and so all these things combined so that you know like my six year old. Yes she can't handle it. It's it's it's pretty hard. She can use the slingshot right and kind of shoot the wolves and the line stuff but It's it's really with what we built into the game. The older ages have a lot of fun. I have another question having to what will hang. based off. what you were just saying hussar antisne. Turnover is 'cause i've heard before about people using vr to trying to train new employees that that is something that's going to be coming in the future. Is that something. I we do training right and sometimes it's really hard to do it over over zoom call. Because i need different amounts of pressure on a And i can't tell if someone's using say fifty pounds of pressure ten or or what type of oppressor they're basically just pressure a lot of pressure. Low pressure pressure. Is that something that we can do. Where either people could see someone else do it and they would have to replicate what someone else is doing through vr. Is that like a possible thing or is it called. Yeah i mean the pressure thing is a little difficult but there's you know some controllers called knuckles that that hope become more mainstream and they allow you to feel a little bit of that pressure interesting on your hands but yeah you can do. I mean some things that we did before as as part of You know this. The sister company which is fourth wall effects. We created training simulations for walmart and mcdonalds and kellogg's where multiple people would be in the same. You know say walmart and they'd be walking around together training together in a virtual reality headset. So i've got a game idea. I've got a game idea for the short game. The characters e e saw a three d. interactive gaming e saw jacobs says. Hey i'm an offer to give you. E saw a bowl of stew in exchange for your birthright and then you come in as the character say no and then it's over because that doesn't make a lot of phenomenal. But at the time i seriously but at the time at the time it made sense though. That whole story doesn't make sense what someone says i'll give it my entire birthright my inheritance for a bowl of soup. That's the power of what you're doing here because you can kind of experience what they might have felt like or been going through and i really do wish you the best on this project. What's the website you would encourage your way to check out jerem to learn to learn more about what you're doing. Is there a specific site or called action that you would ask our listeners. Today yeah goto. Dvd the game dot com. You can you know. Get in touch with us on the social media facebook instagram or on there And really if you've got a headset then i preordered not check out the oculus quest. It's a it's pretty formidable headset And yeah. I play the game. It's coming out Sorry it's already the already october. But it's coming out november twenty third on steam. Vr oculus later will come out on playstation vr. And on oculus quest again. What day does it come out again. Eleven twenty three eleven twenty three okay. Great and a final question. I have for you if somebody's looking to get into your industry. Is there a specific block. You would recommend or a specific online training tool. You'd recommend what's the best place for people to get started if they want to become a Kind of a big deal in the world of online on world new of digital animation. Yeah that's a great great question. There's a lot of free software open source open source software. That people can of jump into 'em so blenders one of those blender allows you to do a lot of the the three d. modeling and and textures and stuff and so you can get into blender and just start there. There's a bunch of free tutorials around that as well so you can kind of start to get your you know your hands dirty in there and your feet wet and see if it's something you're like that's that's blender dot com. You just make fruit smoothies out of clay. It's just you turn it on high. So blender blender fruit and beauty. Look this up. Someone's looking this up right now. it's a blender saw it's free three. D dot com free. Three d dot com. That's that's the website the website. That's a website to make blenders judah. Was there a certain website for that or make sure blender dot org blender dot org. Let me pull that up real quick here but i hate to put you on the spot. I just want to know. Because i know a lot of listeners. Wanna know that. And you're you're you're wizar- that's lender dot org dot com folks. You go there for you. Get all the name brand of blenders that you wanted a fraction of retail cost because they eliminate the middleman for blender dot org you go there to learn how to do the three d. animation stuff but blender dot com powerful site to learn how to get name brand retail blenders. Fraction retail cost. probably recommended. Jerem thank you so much rain on today's show you you're you're a great american. Hey thanks this is a lot of fun. Thanks everybody and now. Without further ado rate in china even russia totalitarian country maybe could understand some of these illegal injunction made. I could understand the denial certain basic frisk amendment privileges because they haven't committed themselves to that older that but some of the freedom of assembly window on the freedom. The freedom walk though aside your the because i never compromise. We never get to pick baltimore. Don't mess me. Visit to his reign queen on american in the second amendment you went are gods well calm and bread twenty provision the time when you went to make decisions on top twenty domestic back to not be built the back knock compromise. We never pick off. We never mind mcvay nine to knock talk about you. Talk to come up with a to our free will never be a socialist that is nobody chimerical on the thrive time show.

james cameron hollywood eighty hours Tim allen jerem Avatar andrew jerram tinton Interactive bible Landau james balu Mr cameron ryan wimpy eighty five hours james jancis new zealand erin courtney cox six foot
Episode 112: Cameron Ford

The Canine Paradigm

1:26:24 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 112: Cameron Ford

"What's happening in the canine industry for all the latest news? Views and expert opinions. Stay Right here for the Canine Paradigm. You'll oh here. From industry leaders experts Doyennes of the industry learn colleagues movers and shakers and the odd randy guest get. Get the latest insights and expert advice from both here and abroad from the people in the Nong. Now here your hosts Glenn Cook and Pat Steward Am. I'm lefty Fulton and I'm Outta here. IPAD it's twenty twenty. Yes the new Ye. Yeah Jerky we call Jason Famine. He's attitude of improved. Only one might have found out. Should we calling. Yeah okay. Let's do that yeah I buffet high cocky. AH WE'RE CALLING ANOTHER AD. We thought we'd go all right is. Is that one of the reasons you've done a lot of people calling you because you know. It's that Korte awake until midnight. People ring me like after nine and Lawn Hey Jay Carney cool stuff this out through on twitter dot com. Yeah you get on the website and if you're a balanced trying trying our certified balanced that data goals girl right. You can get up to forty dollars off high just products us say is is that because you're an ethical and trying to across people just without knowing what they're doing with them pretty much there are other reasons but mostly it's not on my lamb and I well I I so if people wanted all this kind of dog training equip monk quit monk. Equipment chipmunk has equipment on is that money and I'm Pat. Yeah you know the equipment the equipment. Yeah where do they go to check out that is on VIC DOT COM. WWW DOT cer n w dot COM Happy New Year. Did Glenn you eating dog food. I'm not eating dog table. Thought was last time. This is Wade redoing this ad because loss time we were doing it. We had people ringing up saying I'm very confused. It sounds like you're eating food dog food. Did people think you ate. And I thought what I was. Aiding bright spots. Why would people think you aiding it well because on our last time I made a little Russell and UCLA? Glenn what are you doing. I said I'm enjoying awesome. Bright spot isn't it that the bright spots are so healthy and nutritious for a dog that they're amazing to us in training because does love the flavor of from there is very good for the dog and they're so delicious that you thought maybe you'd have a little new. Well you could because it's been so well made as you said as you pointed at Carly brought uses all the best products that you could possibly think of an adult traits that you could possibly ate them but the not recommended for human consumption but they great feodor okay. Where would these dog squad? Canine Services Dot Com dot ie you. Did you say dog scored Canine Services Dot Com. That I you I did. I'd say would I still that Kane on or spill it out. Canine as in C. N. N. A.. Not K nine okay so spell it out dog squad a canine services dot COM dot. AU Get yourself. Some bright spots. Use them to train. You Dog Nibble yourself unless you really want exactly take off welcome back to the Canine Paradigm. I'm your host Pat Stewart Joining Studio today by my co-host Glenn Cook and join us on skype all the way from the USA right now in Palm Springs. I think at a police. Canine Comfort is Mr Cameron Ford. How you guys doing? It's awesome to be on the show with you guys. I know we all share the same odd gas passion. That's right so before we even start. Let's kick it off and say you've got your own podcast. All cost cannot talking sense right. Yeah that's correct. Yeah IT'S A. It's a podcast dedicated to pretty much. Anything detection wise in the detection dog market so whether it be bombed drug from cellphone bedbug arson you name including tracking all of that. I try to cover other podcasts. Through various experts I bring in n whether it be psychologists chemists other scientists are just people with lots of good experience that can bring permission to the show into the guests us. Hey so we we met. What was that? It's a month ago or something. Yeah Yeah almost bang on a month in Las Vegas. 'cause you at the moment training out of superstate. Canine in in Las Vegas Right. That is correct. Yeah met some canine in. It's what I kind of call an academy. It's a schoolhouse where we basically put people. Through either trainer schools handler schools. We host seminars there as well such as when you came down four and education facility that we do some dogs sales. I joke around. Tell people you know what we do is. I'm your custom shop. You know we don't have like a Kennel full of dogs. I basically either raise the dog with me for a half year or so or I hand pick a dog out and then it will live with me for maybe a little less time. If it's an older dog so that way when it gets done being trained it goes to the handler and and they go through school and then they certified hit the streets us. So if you don't mind like let me just explain to our so me and you met the day before the seminars doing going there. And it was one of those stepbrothers moments when we started talking about turning does and it was just become best friends as we'll bouncing Mike together and agreeing with everything because a lot of the stuff that we were talking about. He's not it's not new science but it is you. Were to the working looking dog. Wildlife like a lot of the things that have worked in the pasta work but some of the new techniques that you'll really interested in working better and we were agreeing for all of that and bouncing ideas off each other. Can we want a little bit back. In Origin Story Josie origins. Yeah okay so as a little kid. Did I grew up in Orlando Florida and ironically my neighbor was the gentleman who started. Canine or police. Canine in Florida. And this would be in the early seventies. He's so he graduated and trained with the gentleman named Pat Kahlil Pat K.. Hills kind of like the forefather for police. Canine okay. So he learned under PAG Hale comes to Florida's started a company called Canine Incorporated. This is also back when they would put Guard dogs on. Let's say car dealership parking lots or any number of businesses so forth so anyway that's my neighbor so has a kid. I'm deathly afraid of dogs. Because they all act like like they wanted to kill me through a small four foot chain link fence mind you dogs and but at the same time. I was enamored by it and then fast forward award a little bit of time but had I was out I was like his demo. Kid He would take me and put me in the back in those days a station wagon with all his tough dogs and say see. This kid can hang out with the dogs and the dogs. Don't eat the kid so the dogs are good things like that back then was it my Gosh uh-huh Wyler's yeah. Rottweilers Dobermans. German shepherds were the big ones. And I I could still to this day remember. The dog's name is there was two rottweilers. Weiler's ones Kato and Ada and then a doberman named rowdy was pretty crazy. Two German shepherds was my favorite name. Bosso but is police dog was named name KENO which I ended up naming my last police dog after that dog. Darah Kozo. Yeah so those are. That's kind of I guess. Planted the seed as a kid and then and can I ask you in bed knowing what you know now and back then reflecting this guy he was your next door neighbor and was amazing amazing and the dogs were amazing and knowing what you know now when you reflect back and think about it objectively how will try and do you think those dogs were. How stable do you think they were learn? Pay Them to the modern police dog now I would say they were very well trained but it was through more compulsive methods so these dogs also I would say are very genetically different than the dogs that we have today. You gotta think back of more of like the old school East German style. bloodlines of Roddie's Dobermans and shepherds so pretty hard dogs. But with that said and I know the methodology back in those days in the seventies minis was okay I got a strong dog strong hammer to and whatever whatever method they use kept the dogs in line and it was probably more out of fear based base but those dogs were so strong you didn't see outwardly beer from the dogs at all You saw the fact that they're to control but you're probably teetering on an edge as well weld at any time. You might set off the fuse and the dog was going to do. What's GonNa do when you had to deal with the aftermath But the but I would say so. This far as reliability of training I would say they had to put more work in to get their reliability as compared to what we do today today we can create a lot better reliability ability without some of the techniques that existed back in those days that today we can actually go much further much faster much more efficiently than we used to. Yeah Yeah Yeah for sure. I'm always interested in you. Know when people reflect on those pasta ones especially with off braids. Like you know. There's probably pre malas being very popular at the US and reflecting on the rottweilers and Dobermans. Back when they really were almost totally different. Animal to what you'd find today Oh yeah without a doubt I mean I just the rottweilers themselves back in those days were just beasts of dogs and even the shepherds too I just remember his dog Keno specifically police dog. It was just that big comcan headed style German shepherd that was just all power. No break you know some Yeah just genetically really really good dogs. Before they became so popular the breed modified it became back then there was no show lying it was you know they were just working dogs. Yeah that's it so yeah it changed you know obviously with popularity. Yeah it's an interesting thing. You talk about that Cameron Iran in that vintage in Australia and a main we were never blessed to have the vast selection that most European countries and even to the degree North America had however what we did have was Especially in rottweilers call US rottweilers. The top costs because that was the dog that I sort of cut my teeth on but they were a completely different animal than what they are today. And your hundred percent. The main patent on a very critical of what happened in the braid. Other people will listen to this. And say yeah but Glenn it's for the better because you know we've progressed into a world where what's the need for that type of dog however if you're talking about the selection criteria for working dog that's vanished in those braids now because they don't exist in there you you really limited to Malmo's now no true I. It's a very accurate statement. There's good and bad no matter what there's definitely aptly been some trade offs in either direction Those of US obviously on the working side. You know we kind of long for some of those stronger bred dogs. It's because you know especially depending on the type of work with patent is background when the special forces kind of thing we wanted dogs that have that just that genetic toughness business because we can't predict every situation a dog may come into so but we want them to have that that metal in them to get through whatever diversity diversity that they're facing and you know depending on how breeding occurs. Sometimes we have lost some of that through the watering down or watering down but the changes what is looked for you know what is desired from a breeder or a customer depending on the dawn they want so overall the ripple effect. I mean I was lucky when I was living in Germany at the time and ninety nine was the year of the split between the German poll side and and the German SB. They used to always do boons eager together every year in ninety nine that was the last year that it was going to be a joint event so in part of the reason there's other reasons but one of the main reasons was the poets. I had a hard time supporting the program that no longer. You had a stronger emphasis on the working aspect that had a stronger emphasis on the show aspect so the pulse I started drifting towards the DMC or Torch Club and you know getting more dogs from them supporting more of their events and things like that. So Yeah I was lucky. That year was in ninety nine. I went through the Buddhist seger. had kind of got to see that transformation that was occurring that branching off of the police. The country's national police saying Eh. We have a hard time supporting this because we need to support dogs that are matching. What our needs are not a different You know program Graham that was going on. Yeah that's it. Hey Sorry Matt Rajabi but I thought it was an interesting thing. So so you're you're living next to the school. I work in these these hot US old dogs folks and you'll the demo. Yeah yes so. He ends up getting divorced from his wife. I didn't see him for probably seven or eight years. I begin taking it was starting college and some of my classes were in the evening. So I'm sitting there. You know shooting the Shit with some of the guys glass in their cops and you you know as became kind of became friends they were saying. Hey you gotta come out and do a ride along sometime. I think you just talking to you. You have some of the qualities we look for law enforcement so I decided to go down the sheriff's Office. I fill out a form to ride and as I drive away. I see the canine guys doing some training. So I pull off the side of the road and I'm kind of watching him and of course as a cop you see somebody. Let me pull off the side of the road looking at Ya. Go Walker Percy what's up so the obser- walks over to me. Hey can I help. You said sorry I'm just watching My old neighbor used to do do this. Well who is he His name's Bob Gailey. Oh Bob he's over there. I was like damn tell cameras over here. Hey Bob some kid named cameras over over here says he knows you. I hear him yell. Cameron what is he doing. And then from that night forward I was training with them. I became a Kennel hand. And you know so he he basically did like the karate kid thing to me like Mr Biaggi. I was picking up the shit. Oh yeah I'm cleaning KENNELS. I'm bathing dogs. I'm taking dogs for walks. And of course I'm sitting here going. All I WANNA do is be as police. Canine in classes and finally after about two or three months of just basically doing all of that stuff helping him out. He's like hey if you wanna stay after hours and watched a police canine class. It's on your time but you are free to hang out so I did. I sat there for an entire year. Just sitting in watching them do their training every night and finally Vialli when they hit the second year One of the guys who was kind of like Bob Apprentice. He's a police officer. That area really good guy Toss this leave down at my feet one night and goes you're done watching to put the sleeve on this kind of do what we've been doing. So yeah I threw a bites leave on and started imitating. The guys who had watched watched being a decoy and at eighteen or nineteen years old. I'm out there catching dogs bite. Were laying tracks hiding in and buildings and and it really paid dividends. At the time. I was having a blast. I thought it was awesome to just be able to do that. But later on you know the following year when they gave me a dog kinda handled It was a dog that was going to be assigned to somebody. But that guy couldn't come to class so I got to work the dog in the class in enlighten into me as a handler. Because as the decoy. I always got to hear the dogs rapid sniffing as I got close I got to see the dog. Pick me up before the handler would pick them up. I would see all of these things and then even when the dogs would bite me I would. I would feel that bite how that bites being pressures. Changing based on conditions would I'm doing with the handler is doing and it helped me when it was my turn to be the handler. One one out here that breeding change or see that body language change. I was more attuned soon. Even though I didn't know it now I can look back down and go wow. I'm glad he did all that to me. Because when there was a dog in my hands I could understand it. Better and then as the decoy when I see the dog in its bite doing. ABC whatever it was. I kind of knew what I would do as a decoy to help the dog. So I'd either talk to equalize. Where is the handler? I would do things to try to help diagnose just natural it was inadvertent because of all that time watching really helped me understand some steps that that he didn't have to be there to say through all these things so I was able to basically a just as I needed to to do that. So without Ah said constant instruction as we all know his trainers. If you've got a costly sit there and tell somebody hey do this do that. You lose some valuable moments in training time so and the timing is neither method timings never especially with the decoy. Lucky few then have to tell them. Hey do this now. That the moment of when they shoulda done that it was was two seconds ago. Yeah Yeah so so yeah that was one of the bleed over effects that helped. I was glad that needed back then. Like I said you're being the workhorse. We're course you're doing all the heavy lifting as far as I loved it but there was major benefits for following that path. Or just giving unleashing going so then off the college agenda joining the Air Force right correct. Yeah so of course. I'm in those classes and I wanted to be really bad now. I'm twenty one. I think the guys are like Y- in your little a young to go. Try Your hands at the COP. You should do the military thing and you know it. You know I was going through lineup. Point gone not knowing what I was going to do so why was kind of joke. Around like a rudderless ship was had no path so family members this stuff kept encouraging the military aspects. So long story short I ended up in the Air Force. which ends up being the hub for all the military working dog programs in the military so luckily enough through I got picked to go through the military working dog school back? In those days we call the pipeline so you went from basic training to law enforcement training and then into Canaan school so got lucky did that and then of course out of all the places I get picked to be stationed at with Germany. So yeah I would have. The part was a little upset. I call up Bob Complaining that that I'm being sent to Germany. He basically told me to shut up and never the fact that weird it all our dogs come from where would it. Most the education come from so oh sure enough I shut my mouth and realized it was a good thing that I would being stationed in Germany. I fully embrace it after that and got to spend four years in Germany and I really I did my best to actually went to every country I could and learn their program so I went to Holland and learn. KNP went to Belgium learned NBK. I went to to France and learn French ring and they picked up Mondia ringing in different areas. As well helped me moving forward. I knew from before the United States I got born born in in Entrenched in that Germany. Of course but I wanted to learn potentially was reprogrammed. That had the best police dogs are best potential police dogs and as I went through every program has its qualities you know. There's good things for a certain programs and then there are certain things that may not translate well over a police dog. You know what I interesting thing was one of the first things I did when I saw the NBK program in Belgium. I'm like Oh wow. This would be a really good for police. Dogs because the amount of environmental stress they put on those dogs would distract and things like that and engagement. I thought would be good as has I learned. There's so much control involved in that that a lot of time. The dogs have a difficult time knowing when to react because it's constantly test. Yup You know to them depending on environmental where KNP even though it was more like you know these scheduled events you know this is going to happen. It's it's it's regimented and a dog. I was thinking pick pick that up but what they look for in. The dogs did match better for what police dogs are required to do. And so I kind of fell in love with that program and spend some time there and But it was about valuable even to this day. I haven't done any sports stuff in in any of those programs games in a long time but it gives me foundation where they tell me where the dog comes from what what country comes from. I have at least an idea what that dogs background is. Yeah so I'm better prepared for training with it. That's that's really interesting one right like I've done a little bit of work with police in the states. That will tell me all my dog has taught us and I said well in one uh that that really made lots of different things like having taught sure having an IPO dot org pay whatever they say now compared to a candidate in Utah. That's a really different thing being todd compared to a French title. That's a really different thing. The precious defriend stick. Work is different different things and then one thing that I think is. It's very interesting to me as well as even just the bloodlines of the dogs. In that day physical performance like never mind the training and who raised. But you know lying. Why dog is from campaign? They background Ron. And so he's got three minutes of extreme Powell Yeah not so much insurance after that right. Because that's that's just yeah works in Tampa Bay. They do like exercise. Then you do your exercise and you do your and then onto the next pot you know compared to for entering or upper level Monday things where you might even in the case where you might be on the field for forty minutes right where the dogs gone for a long time and even just knowing their background even if it's even if it's will the dog was born in this country and he's not trained in that program it means nothing. Well it probably does mean a lot like maybe the way that he's been selected for the way that he bought that's just the way his body moves that sort of thing I it's all relevant at on actually connectix. Yeah exactly right now. It's a possible effect from generation to generation. So we'll have a flow on perfect but yeah I'm really jealous of your spending four years in Germany or in Europe just traveling around on the government's Don Oh man and in the craziest part so I I I. It's my second year in Germany. Move off base and I moved into a house. We call on the economy and I'm in a neighborhood and kept noticing certain nights of the week that'd be barking going on in his big huge cornfield behind the house. I lived in so finally curiosity killed the cat lack of a better term. I decide to walk through the Cornfield and it's a shooting club club. That's often the distance so I go there make friends with everybody. One of the members happens to be a German poets. Canine Handler We're still friends to this day role in if you're listening to shout out to him but Roland was Super Nice. When we became really good friends started doing joint training between the Pulitzer and the base police? And that kind of really enhanced those of us on the military side of things that there was other ways of doing things in the German system some stuck might work great for our dogs and other stuff. It's not because we have a different mission but after all that was done I was my last year the military few months. Actually I basically Kinda got an invite site to do training with him at the school with Echenbach and I wanted to initially go with my military dog but that made no sense because because it's a military dog trainer but Nope I'm moving on no one's GonNa carry on what I learned from the germ police. Luckily enough I had my own Malawai home so I got approval by the commanding officer that I had and went through the Durham police. Dog School with my own Germanophile Malawai and it was awesome. Just the the luck geico of being able to spend all that time those guys training with them I got it what they call A. GPO with my Melania that time which is their her police dog titles. And I think still a might only be a handful of Americans that have gone through that school it from start to finish so back in those days. Missile dated this was in nineteen ninety nine so it was still a very novel thing with the Germans were doing as far as police were wise to you know the states in this case very different types of criminal activity in the sense of the adversary. You know the criminal in Germany is different than the criminally. Emily Nice dates. You know obviously the guns and violent weapons and things like that were slightly different. Obviously but the way that time the other unique thing that happened recently when I was over there was there was a particular case. Where a person who was? I may have details kind of wrong but anyway individual robbed or broke into a convenience store a a grocery store or something like this Pulse I shows up. Make makes an announcement with the dog. Let's dog inside. The guy takes a jacket and wraps it around. His arm takes a bite on the jacket believe stabs or cut the dogs through. Wow so the handlers. Coming in looking dog as he comes in the criminal stabs and kills him an additional German poets. I Guy I believe in killing that guy either shooting and we're doing whatever but they lost the dog and they lost the handler and believe and what made it even worse was he had a newborn or a really young child or whatever so there was significant. Change that occurred in that time where there was no longer Heavy use of US leave. This is this is where you start seeing more and more muzzle work being introduced again. I don't know if that particular incident was the main caused by no was was probably one of many in that incident wrong through the we supports guys that I knew because training dog training over there is very common so somebody knowing knowing your skills over there is normal so they took advantage of a situation. I know how this works. I'll put it rapidly around my arm but the dog bite it and then while the dogs by s not hurting not me and then they can cause harm to the dog which they did. Yeah so that was something so when I went through school the changes that occurred became again. I don't have the numbers right. Bliss the seven parts of this certification five out of the seven we're all in muzzle now versus half and half or whatever. It was prior to that so everything became much more Toriente to the dog fighting and not being so wh- equipment oriented as they were in the past yup so that was a big change and then working with one of the German. Sek Dogs Fox was pretty awesome too. So the watching a dog that has no out you know not let go unless they are basically taken off by the you know we call it a break breaks in English but basically I refer to as a out tool is just you know it touches a gag reflex dog come off. It's actually a cleaner way. The most cases this is indestructible dog for five ten seconds in these days with cameras everywhere but Highly effective. I mean the dogs go in. They have no release command. The dog is a tool tool. It's used to engage that suspect and keep that suspect engaged until they have control the situation and it can deem it safe. So there's a lot of controversy over that and I think in some circumstances uh-huh stances. It's the best way to try. And you know there's always a circumstance we'd say well if you bought the wrong person I want to be Outta Outta the valiants on both sides bought Holy Shit those those dogs that have like no intention to out of luck when you've never taught it's never in the dog could potentially come and when the brakes did comes out like you know you know I as well as Idaho bet up at the break and actually make a great grip because the dose Charlie. Yes yeah well and he does like well. If I completely seal my math if I if I get a complete seal over these adding like you can really get a lot of that adding tool. Yeah absolutely and it was funny because I was showing recently ago around occasionally and do what's called all tactical integration with Canine operation. So I do classes for Swat teams to show them some of the stuff that I did with the navy seal project our project but he was. He'll program how to apply things to be honest between me and you we kind of know this. I'm not really training anything. I Miss Teaching guys to use critical thinking with their dog and the other team members exposure to with the dog being around the dog and realizing they are also role players in that whole team concept. The dog is a tool. They I understand how to use that tool and be around that dog and one of the most important things I try to teach is okay. This is what happened. This is what you need to do. If the handler. It goes down because many of them don't train for that and they need to get used to what are their procedures or how they're going to handle things if the handler has been removed from the equation Asian in one way or another so one of the tools I you know. I made sure that other operators had the break stick or the tool with them so that way they could get the dog off if they needed to. Yeah and then. They have control the dog and ironically in wanted seminars. I did it was like a two weeks later. They deployed a dog up at the ceiling area The dog makes contact as a hand was crawling to his dog. The ceiling false rue now. The dog in the bag I are on the ground. Were the other team. Members are at so because of the training day quickly got one guy when Graham dogged by the harness had his out tool with him was able to out the dog while the handler crawled his way back from the ceiling. Back Down to where they're at and they had control the suspect and they control the dog and it was all smooth. But you know as you know a lot of times. It's not a training technique or it's critical thinking. What do you do under pressure pressure? Yeah how do you respond to win all of a sudden I throw a monkey wrench into your plan. How do you adapt and I think there's so much value in that in like a training package packaged? The Canine handle that delivers to rest of. Who will ultimately be back up on how to just basics of dealing with the dog? I remember hearing a really sad story many years ago about a guy who who is he got shot and was badly badly injured or wounded and he's dogmatically went into an object. God overman wouldn't wouldn't let anybody Brenda. I ate they just shot the dog in order to get him get him. There's no doubt he had a slave and he's lucky if they just kinda discussed that through Game Natalie Weird that they could have been a better way to deal with it and it's such a I remember being really upset rating it because everybody does the best in the moment but that's such a good dog talk. That was doing that. I mean you gotTa do what you gotTa do to save the human law if you go to Bashar If there was a there is a better way if they just only ever stating Fahim to covering from losing a great dog. Yeah as I say is I. It's important like you just bringing up. I always make sure everybody knows where they handler has released on their body. You know because every time I should have more than one leash as you you know again too was one of the things you know whether your stuff you have on you so every handler has multiple leashes. They have toys on them. It's important to know as other operators where these things are at with your canine handler. Just like every operator knows what each other's medical pack Zach. Yeah they know where to go to get this. So you're on situations like that nowhere. These tools are at and no in that case. Maybe a toy might have worked active. You you know at least got close enough. Maybe he would bite the dog toy and you can kind of drag away. Who knows maybe not maybe work at all but at least it was something to try and to what you said when the shit hits the fan? How do you respond can you? Do you have the clarity of mind to make a decision and go with it and and have that plan beep. CD In e ready to roll when the time comes so mad I really want to get onto the stuff that we spoke about but so let's finish story so you came back to the sites and spent some time as a policeman. Yeah yes so. I came back to the states. Had A business imported dog soul. Dogs did that for a while. But then the basically the Afghan Iraqis kicked off so that kept things Goin' but then I had my property which was crazy value so I sold my land and then said okay. It'd be a cop so work comp and Florida than the contracting world kept calling so I'm like okay I'll be your contract instructor. I went to Texas and and while in Texas I picked up a reserve status and work the dog for a local agency the San Antonio area and it was short lived but I mean sense of you know as a deserve to have fun. I got to go out whenever I wanted to. I had a really good chain of command that love dogs. So there's a lot of freedom I had there but the contracting was my nine to five job getting getting handlers trained and ready to go to Iraq Afghanistan so I got two as I learned my years in law enforcement. I loved being a cop but obviously I liked being a cop but I loved working dogs dogs. Yep and you know being able to focus my attention to only working. Dogs was the best thing but like I said I love being a cop. I enjoyed my time in Florida but being capet Texas those they can understand. This is totally different than being a cop almost anywhere else in the United States. So there's a there's a little more support from the community in context. You're when you're a cop is the old school law you know in Texas. You know the old movies. The Guy has a star on his chest. Your office if so if if someone screwed up well then they screwed up. You had to deal with it so but it was a lot of fun over there but yeah by contracting world was really what I did out in Texas and got numerous. Few hundred teams spun up trained and deployed to both countries in Iraq and Afghanistan. And in that kind of blood into being hired by a friend lendemain named Jeff Franklin he owned a company called corporate. Canine and he brought me on to do the navy seal project that he had of the contract and end up in San Diego in two thousand fourteen do in the navy seal dogs over their seal team's one three five and seven. That are out there and really that push push me to my next level as a trainer because yet as a cop I care very much about how it works. And what's expected on. Let's say detection for Fourth Amendment amendments search and seizure rights. And things like this but there's nothing like the pressure of making sure the dog that you train protects the lives of those tier one or are you a tier three in some cases but those high level soldiers doing their job and to make sure that they come home and make sure that they're buddies. They are there to protect Promo so I knew I had to step up what I did. I knew I had more time in And I knew I needed to you potentially find a more scientific level of training and I had started some of that in the contracting world in Texas I got exposed to to a I dated a girl from seaworld and her working with mammals showed me a few things. One of which was marker base. Training and I was laying was is that yeah go ahead. What year was that when you started? Two thousand twelve is when I started doing some worker stuff my first time doing marker training and what I started in so funny part was Mike. Ellis had just started putting out videos with F. Raleigh now and I've known to I knew Mike when he was the barefoot. Decoy you'd go out there and catch dogs and monitoring and things like that. No shoes on really long here. He'd barefoot flip flops. Oh Yeah Yeah. Typical California Hippie. Oh he was. He was known. I think there is even an image somewhere where it's like a footprint and a dog footprint that was like some Mike Alyssa's little things. Oh Yeah I yeah I I have to bring in one of the story so that so kind of might travels when I was in Germany. You'll laugh at this one pat so I go to a seminar put on by Bart Art Balon and Dr Helmet Riser. Man I tell you what I would give to be at that fucking seminar. Oh my God so this is funny because I knew of Helmet Riser from the book. And I knew of bar a little bit because grammarian Powell's the guy who is running vk at the time Bar Agai competed you know numerous times and was doing really well so I knew bar as kind of like the E. Collar Guy and I knew insane withheld helmet was known because he was the first who when he won Bundesliga admitted to using an e. collar and that was so controversial so I had these two guys at some dog club in some part of Germany teaching a seminar seminar. All in German. Mind you so. I'm sitting there listening to them. Talk and I'm picking up bits and pieces could I could. I could communicate good enough. I go through the whole thing and the funny part was bar is trying his best when it's one dog with a caller and it's not working at all and this is before depot really get going. It was still a little more of the compulsive pulse of style of it. So he's trying and trying and in helmet comes over and puts US leave autumn. It brings back a little bit and then helmet goes into conflict on purpose and conflict on accident both create learning one. Is You do on purpose to get the dog to learn and longtime one. Is You do by accident. And he kinda showed where you you tell the dog to sit and stay. Then you kick the sleeve out the decoy. It goes so now you've caused conflict. Then you go correct the dog for something you did without teach the dawn you know how to work through that yet so I go through all of that. I watched I listened to them and it was a great seminar Lockerbie Helmet and I'm like speaks English and he's like yes. I speak English. That's fine it turns out so he's a dentist. My Dad trained him on dental implants. Here I am being trained by him on dog stuff. We had a laugh about about how the circle of life there happened between dentists and dentistry in dog training. So yeah so I I see I get get to go through one of those first time with Bart got to you know. Pick his brain and talk to him a little bit. I follow them around a few more seminars from there two years to where he's at today but then the other one was Mike. Ellis Ellis going around there. And then either Balabagn. I remember following him around the trial circuit in Europe I went to the FM. Remember Right There World Championships for IPO at that time Where he ended up winning that year which I believe is ninety nine or two thousand and So become fast friends with Ivan Ivan. Moving to Florida. You know I hang out with my every now and then it was just dumb luck to be. You know a lot of things that happened to me was right place right time but nothing special. I did other than I would say I put in work. I is willing to go anywhere anyplace to learn. Of course if you want to talk about the folks in the right that would be you getting posted to Germany. That's the amazing thing that was at Saltillo control but everything after that added still doing the work. There's probably dozens of posted to Germany and sat in the barracks watch movies instead of going out there and getting immersed in the culture and learning earning the dogs. Yeah so that bleeds into that navy seal program so as with the seals and I wanna get better. I'm happened I'm sitting there watching a show on nat Geo wild. I see this guy. Brian Hair doing these cognitive tasks other calling him dog tests on TV. And I'm watching this going holy crap. This really applies detection. Dogs gets a lot of it. About General Communication L.. Where we stand point how much the dog picks up from all of this so so I see this and I'm like okay? How do I get a hold of this guy so thank goodness this now? Two Thousand Fifteen so I just do a quick Google search find I hope was his email. Shoot him an email. Tell them what I do. and Lo and behold he reached out to me like forty eight hours later. Hey great to meet you cameron. I would love to help out long story short short. I ended up helping him get an eight hundred thousand dollar grant from the Office of naval research us to Help us so. My initial intent was to get better At detection dogs through what he was showing cognition. What really started off? How do we select better dogs using cognition? Because because we at that time probably had like a forty eight percent washout rate of dogs from selection to actual deployment so and that's talking about right correct. Yeah so so. If you consider top in Y- SPEC OPS soldiers. There's always a high washout rate because it's it's it's a demanding Kinda thing we'll the dogs is the same way so to have a forty percent. Washout rate isn't horrible. But the government wants to know. Can we do better. Is there something that we can change that. Will you know maybe make us more productive more efficient. So incomes doctor. Here we start applying the cognitive active tests because as we all know in conversation here. Most selection testing is focused on environmental and driver motivation. Yep Very rarely early are we looking at all at the intelligence aspect. How does the dog problem solve? How quickly can they problem solve? How strong is your memory? We're not looking at those things. So when he introduced us to basically a simple series of tests that take about a half hour to forty five minutes to do when we apply those tests and this is a small small number of dogs at first. Because this is all we had access to but regardless our percentages went up to the mid Seventies. Wow so it helped in the sense. Is that what it really did for me was by knowing how that dog thinks how it uses memory allowed me to plan training better so if I had a dog who is strong memory I had to take away. Things would use in memory to problem solve. Wanted to learn so I would. I would either make everything. Look exactly exactly the same so there was nothing he could draw from visually and it would finally use its nose or a creative a series of say barrier something for the dog to have to work through in order to get what it wants. And you talk about this a lot with your nipple votes cognitive skill so we talk about the dog getting through those verses create success but I need a dog willing to get through the verses and I could see that through those tests I could see a dog willing to problem solve or use problem solving abilities. Its ability to make an inference from something gave me a you know a big dark room. I now have a light switch. I can turn earn on NC better in that space so I can then like. I said my training plan becomes efficient so not only did we increase the dogs. That made it through the program Graham. My training time decreased exactly by thirty percent which was huge so I save time on training and I increased proficiency in the dogs that we selected washing out as often. I want to just because you know we understand those numbers but to sort of explain to our audience to get. If you've got a leader of ten dogs and you'll oh previously getting like four of the ten through and getting seven the amount of dogs that even get to the the funnel to even begin this election you've caught in. Yeah a million dogs to get those terror right. Yup and these days it's getting hotter and hotter and hotter and anybody that's had to buy or sell a working dog. The prices are going through the roof because just the demand con cannot possibly meet the supply. And so you idea of suddenly getting seven dogs out of tend to lead a rather than for that is astronomical like that absolutely that I hope they gave you a payrise right because that's perfect perfect. No that's a great analogy for it. Yeah because you know you say in a stray dog that's suitable for that purpose. He looking at say around forty thousand dollar mark because of where we are and so every can get another three or four of them through you looking at more than one hundred thousand dollars hundred fifty thousand dollars around that they had to. You know that's money back in your program and then you say you're reducing actual training Tom so you can get these trying up and out the door ready to bang even quicker like I just need to. I just want to emphasize because we understand that when you give those numbers and we say that's not that how hard it is to get it. Okay and how do these days to get a dog that fits through that funnel. Final is so fucking difficult and if you can find any way that that means you can get an extra even if you can squeeze if you increase by ten percent that would still be an amazing increase people they will be like Holy Shit. What a huge success but to go to seventy percent from forty is amazing ANTICI training time down thirty percent is just? It's a big big deal. Oh and was with even more special about this is so not only you know we were the first to do it in a dual purpose type open environment with those dogs because some had been done in detection only single purpose dogs obviously with us. We were multipurpose. Canine which meant we did. You know apprehensions and searching and in all kinds of stuff so we were the first take into that level and then here's the crazy part. The complete opposite is the dogs were a lot of the study. Came ain't from which was canine companions for independence dogs that assisted the handicap so they were doing the exact same tests but what they were looking. GATT was complete opposite end of the spectrum of what they wanted than what we wanted. We wanted highly independent dogs. Who would basically work despite us? And they need a dog odds that were highly intuitive and dependent on handler or human interaction and communication so diametrically opposite ends of the spectrum spectrum there are percentages were near the same as ours. Wow which is it tells you the merit in the testing and there's plenty of people that will go Out there and there's some really good friend of mine a friend of mine but a friend of mine. WHO's Super Intelligent He's he's in a whole neuroscience so he always kind of pokes fun at this stuff. Goes Cameron cognition stuff from the Seventies. And I'm like Y-y-yeah seventies but we're just now really using it in our world world and there is a ton of us in the dog industry who don't know what at all so weather it was developed in the seventies and we're finally using it now doesn't devalue value what we're doing and the information it's applying because whether it's a handicap assistance dog or a tier one special operations nations. Canine applying learning about. How a dog thinks a dog makes an inference or dogs? Memory is so important regardless of the training application. So can you give an example. Might like imagine. Got My dog right here in front of me and we're going to do some detection work. What is just an example of one contest that you may do and then what would the outcome of that test determined for that Dole so the very first test I typically do is called distracting acting pointing Q.? Test and basically. There's two buckets on each side of me. A bucket to my left and a bucket. My right and I take a baller Laura food or whatever. The dogs motivated by. I show. The dog is say. Hey look here's your item and I place it. Let's say under the book to My right eye. Then point to my bucket to the left and say okay. Does the dog follow where I point or does it go where it knows what it wants so it saw me put tate's ball this case under the bucket to the right but as the human I'm pointing to the left and saying okay. Do they go to where I point. Or do they go to where they know values at So obviously in detection or most things with you know an application of a working dog. I WANNA dog. Who goes after A either motivates it or has been associated to motivate it so despite what I think I know so real world on may be pointing something like Hey knucklehead chuck over here and he's like hey a stupid the owners over here. I want the one that goes. I'm going to the odor despite what you think you know. So that's one task that gives me some insight this dog despite what I'm telling it will make the inference of. Hey the better answer is over here despite what the human thanks. So I if this was selection you within say a dog that went where the ball was and didn't follow your cue. You'd say okay. He's a good one. We prefer him over the other. But if you had the other then you would say if it's not selection this is the Dogo heaven trying to say okay. Well now I know I need to be very careful of my cues and I need to in my training. Be Very deliberating my actions and not accidentally cue the dog into the wrong thing absolutely that. That's a great thing to bring up is yes by seeing that. Ah I can see. You're right from the get go. Or here's what's so cool about the tests. You do six repetitions of this test so what you might see is the very first to rex. The the dog follows where you point but it gets but nothing happens then all of a sudden decides to choose the other side that you didn't point to realizes it gets a toy from there. Now what do this subsequent repetitions does the dog stick with once. It knows the answer. Does it keep following the answer or is it inconsistent and giving goes back to you so so if I see the dog that can make the inference realize I'm not the answer anymore and it stays consistently going to where it knows what it wants as at that shows me it makes an inference. It can it can learn apply what it learns. The other part is even if I got like you said a dog who still follows where point but he's highly trainable. You're right I a half to right from the get go. Make sure I set up training. That's effective for the dog to be successful in learning that it can make the right the citizens despite what the humans trying to sell it. Or we think we're trying to tell it That's one phase of this test and there's other parts we can go into here there. But that's one of the interstates right there. Yeah it's it's it's so simple but so when you like that you know shit and if you weren't industry industry it'd be like what what you morons haven't been doing this right. From the Stock Act it kind of goes against the grain of the old style of education that people have had insane detection where human beings insists that they know better and and I learned this when I was a pup in training where I learned the phrase. Trust your dog and if you look at it from the perspective of the dog a dog looks at you know like I'm being forced to search something where I know. There's no fucking already there whatsoever. In ice I being dragged over there and being forced to do it is quite an aversive. Ain't for the dog and you'll get old school China's who will insist. Well you know. The dog might be motivated by the Lodger Madison and missed the smaller plans to there in the room so therefore the dog still needs to go through the education process. But I'm guessing what you're saying is you're looking at the intellect of the dog where the dog went missing missile. All because he'll be motivated to find it no matter where it is a one. It's where it's light. Yeah it gives me that insight that like I said especially if on the I would say the first part subjective where I'm looking at motivation and environmental and all those things and I really like the. Let's say a couple dogs will then I go do these cognitive test S.. I could really split. The hairs are separate the dogs further at that point because at one point they're pretty close. I'm competing with. Let's just say two dogs my favorite dogs. Okay let's do the cognitive test all of a sudden I might see very strong split now. I see one who can make inferences very well problem solve all by itself or one. That's Consi see looking to me for help. Yup and I will then avoid. The dog is looking for looking to me for help or looking to me to problem solve because in my world that's not important art and the somebody else's aspect that's awesome. It's what I need okay. Great I'm like I said there is no there is no right or wrong. It's just understanding how the dog learns. Yep so I always laugh when people do the tests are like Oh my dog stupid no it your dog it just stronger making an inference then memory or your dogs very strong and memory and doesn't make an inference quiet as easy doesn't make it you know are all of us Michael Jordan in basketball absolutely not do does that mean we're less of a human being in some way or another no it just means some of us to play golf just we're all different. Yeah exactly yeah so we have to do what we're good at it and but if you're now able to kind of see the dog's brain habit avenue a open operations manual in a way you can then see okay. I need to do this and training more often than I need to do that. But we would all figure it out over time. That was the biggest thing and nothing on talking about. We did like you said Pat. We didn't we figure out but we figure out sometimes after wasting a week or two of time time and then go. Oh we should now differently now. Because of those tasks gives us the opportunity to plan more accordingly or it had that flashlight on that dark room that we didn't have before. And no there's a there's a path here we can go this direction or that direction quicker or slower depending on what the task is made the thing that blew my mind. I don't want to give away all your secrets because now you make your living teaching these stuff but one thing that blew my mind talking to you is about the difference between a left and right so dominant dog inhumane inhumane differently. That's what I was interested in hearing. Can you just talk about that long when we were talking about that. I don't know if you saw my jaw hit the floor because that is just that never fucking good to me and I teach people that dogs win the boy adding we'll have a preference over whether they're leg dog or an upper body dog and of course you can try and one over or the other but the DOJ going to have a preference in this so many things that are so similar that I take but it never occurred to me that those would be left or right handed and I should train them accordingly. I'm I'm deliberately being very quiet in this podcast because I'm just sitting here. Eighty popcorn fantastic off a Mesa yes please. Spills means yeah laterally just means determining what side the dog's brain is preference suits so left side right side just like humans you know. We have a left left low but right lobe in our brains and what was the right word but anyway the dogs are the same so would even more unique especially especially when it comes to detection is the dogs nasal cavity is split left and right so it's not like our ours is split too but it goes back. It's open the back anyway. Dogs can independently work their nostrils left and right so a dog who is a left dominant will utilize their left outside of Knoxville more. So initially when they enter a space then the other one and so my newt but it makes a big difference because the dog comes in and quickly dissect that space space within a second or less in. It's also affected by air current but you will see them come in until their head to that predominant side. So if you're doing a search pattern that kind of making a lefty or righty it causes. Can the dogs do. What did they learn it? Absolutely do but you're kind of fighting fighting their natural disposition in a sense so kind of like you talk about dogs at by the arm versus leg will think about the head tilt so you need to let them What you know the latter Audi left or right you may have a dog that likes better turning its head to the left in engaging the leg i? The dog turns his right to engage a leg. And that's one way that if you knew the latter rally you'll know how to best present the leg because that'll be more in tune with how that dog's head wants to be in the engagement and like I said it went detection How the dog works space? They're gonNA lean towards the latter rally side so whatever the dominant writer left is how they're going to do that so I actually had a handler. That went through the course she made when she saw that her dog was the opposite of what she thought it was. She made her adjustment and saw dividends immediately because She was like. Oh my gosh but making my poor dog were at the opposite direction. Its entire life up at this point and she goes now I let her do it this way and she much happier and just because the dog became more you let it do it. Does naturally it operated on that side of the brain so the latter rally tests are very simple one to test that we do is just you put put something like a size of a small wooden pallet or you can make your inbox. It's like a few inches off the ground and you're looking to see what foot does a dog constantly step up with so you have one person who's counting which pause you go across it back and forth numerous times you're counting. which does it use to step up with? So Oh that's one the other one we call to black rally which should take like a small tube and the reason why we use a tube is because you can put like cheese whiz in it or or peanut butter in it or whatever but you're looking for when the dog is grabbing a hold of the tube gotTa Lick it and stuff off of it with pause it costly grabbing it with to hold it or to control it that is what is this is going to. It's going to it's dominant with so there's constant grabbing it with his right paw to initially grab it and start licking it then you know. Okay that's right and while he's doing. This is the hard part. Sometimes the dogs that we all work is because with a pet dog you can grab that tube no problem and take another politics around again and they can grab it it with our working dogs. Yeah Good luck trying to get it while they're especially you put something they really want to get it from so like. I was telling Brian Back in those days. I'm like yeah. This is GonNa work so hot for the dogs I work with what other tests can I do. I can evaluate right and left. He's like oh you step so so that latter rowdy is important. You know the better you know Woodside your is your dog or righty or a lefty and then adjusting your whatever. Your training is that expands upon that Utilizes that and it's best way And so you see standard teaching usually is you make entry into a room that Ian a search. You've you're holding elation Roy hand you kind of guiding with the left and so we all sort of enter the room turn left work the dogs around in that patent and the some dogs that might be fantastic mastic and for other dogs and you make them basically search on the off side. Lackey fly by handed. You A pan and said no you have to write with your left hand. Yeah no I think about how how effective you are writing with your left hand. You're not so if you're in that that level of operation that you're you're talking about and you need that tool to do it does. It's probably good that you pick a tool that actually does it that way versus taking that who were trying to make a righty lefty and realized that it doesn't work too. Well it's interesting you talking before back conflict and how conflicting that would be to a dog who's got a natural disposition to turn one way and each trying to foresee other. Yeah and and and you're trying to do it through reinforcement you're giving things at once but still you're fighting what it comes to the table with genetically you know what disposition disposition is. Can they do it. Sure they can do it but again. Everything I'm talking about is becoming better in our efficiency in our listening listening resistance you exactly. I got really excited about stuff. When we're talking I definitely I have to find a way to get to a seminar and understand all these better from from you because what? I'm sort of trying to find two people especially in the dog. World is that we use the dogs for Doug stuff right so try and stay out of the dogs way because like kite sort of talk about with especially with the special forces guys. I don't really do that these days but when I talked to people in that world say you know you guys are pretty spectacular gone for Ford is like you really need dogs help to go to finish off the bad guy right now police taking down whatever but typically interested for does your does bought and someone. You're shooting them as well right so like. That's what you don't need a dog's helpful. What you needed oaks helpful? Ease things that you can't do right. And that is using his dog senses. That so you don't have and it just makes me really excited that the idea of letting the dog understanding he sends his bed and then letting him use them to the maximum. He's he's he's effect and staying the fuck out of his way so that he can do. He's cool by capping et. Because if if if I could find if could smell explosives I wouldn't need to take the Dogo again and there's a unique thing happening here in the states. Now which is the National Forensic Board has deemed a dog a sensor so so is the first time it's actually getting his definition of what it really is. It's a sensor location tool so like any other sensor whether it'd be a laser for laser for speeding for someone like hawks us for speeding or the intoxicating to tell us when drunk or not. Those are sensors that give you information. Asian though sensors or to be kept reliable for court must all things like calibration testing and the dog world has been all over the place. They'll go do a certification. We're good there's been no looking into one. How are you storing the materials that you're testing more calibrating with we used to? You know you guys are the trunk of their car and off. They go and now that we're reaching this level of science that tells us okay that your dog is sensor and it needs to meet legal standards. We then need to start with one. How are you storing the material that you're adding the dog detect? How are you calibrating this machine? So it's not just certifying or testing you also need to do runs that tell us okay. Plays eight items out in like liked containers. Let's just say I've glass jars and a lineup. Canada dog effectively. Tell me which jar has the target odor in it and ignore distracting or other their common odors relative to the not target. Can the dog successfully tell me this is it. That's how you calibrate okay. The machines running. Good okay now. Let's test the machine. Human and machine go to work and you put him in various different operational environments whether it be searching cars or rooms or what have you now can they find what you're looking four in those environments. Now were actually finally meeting scientific standards. And then that's the sensor. Then they WANNA know. Now how did you they basically program or train that sensor did you use things like cognition. Did you use operate conditioning classic. How did you use these things in your training training so as a handler you can no longer get away with basically go on my trainer did it? You need to start learning some of these things. We're not asking to be expert. Oh you can't get away with will just because they're that's why we've always done it or whatever. All that stuff has changed the detection. World is fast evolving now because those of the uptick in science. That's entered our world. That's exciting to narrow it. Yeah Yeah I mean it brings us up to a level we should be at especially Ashley here in the states where we have our constitution our fourth amendment search and seizure rights. We need to make sure that. Canine teams in the canine are reliable to meet that a standard and the standard isn't like some crazy difficult thing but we need to at least be accountable. There's a great show called live. PD that constantly shows. Who's some very questionable? Canine deployments were you watched on search car and I'm still wondering when the dog indicated but yet they had was going yet. We're good to get the car. You're you're like wait. All the dog did was walk around the car. So there's things like that we have to be better at. Yeah Yeah Hey so the other thing. I wanted to chat with your batty's those cognition testing so many many years ago when I was at school over there in the states school I was that had a dog lab and doing some interesting experiments and and I kept my mouth shut because who might right but I sort of thought as a dog person that they weren't really testing what they thought that would testing. I thought that because they were Brian scientists and that we're interested in understanding cognition at that point and it's kind of always been interested in. Its while I was so excited when we met but what. I didn't give them too much feedback. Because I didn't want to make an idiot of myself and be wrong but I just kind of what they were. Actually testing was more game. -Ness of the dog and draw really because the task was hydro dog or dog. That was more game. And like we'd just knock you back on. The idea of findings rainfall saw was really what they're testing more than intelligent diligent. One of the tests though doing so. Can you explain a little bit. Like I thought it was fantastic when your days especially you is at Duke. You're working with them right to to get a dog handler. And a real dog person's perspective on their Bryant Science. Yeah so you know one of the things that gets brought to my attention when people do this test like Oh this is all visual on like yeah. It has nothing to do with odor because the dog initially assesses things visually like we do there are also taking an odors of course but they still have memories based on visual aspects. Visual cues how something looks things like that so we are looking at how they process information. And how quick do they make a decision. So this is why the distance from where the dog is at and and where the examiner is editor. What he's buckets or add is only about three meters you know so? It's not very far because all you're looking for is how quick are they making the decision laughter after right or some cases left right or centre which one they choose so. It's just how they make a decision. How quick they make a decision? The crazy part is all these tests initially were all done with rescue. Dogs or pound. Puppies are things that had no motivation. In fact the test was set up. If they didn't make a decision in fifteen seconds you had to restart or Redo the test so I laughed at that because I was like our dogs are GonNa make a decision and probably a second or less. Yeah so he goes like sometimes we had. We had many dogs. That would just stand there and look at us and not do anything so they actually cut their teeth learning this on dogs. That couldn't couldn't really weren't even anywhere near what we would look for but yet what they were learning was very profound for what those of us in any type of working do need to know. So it's it's about process of information. How does the dog and it would be later on whether it be knows through the eyes through the ears? The environment environment itself with all three factors going. How does the dog process the information and when reintroduced or based on experience do they go off memory or do they? Are they willing to be. We call mentally flexible. So I'll give you a great example of an old mistake that we used to do. You'd see a dog was crazy for Tori and you had put the toy assay the wooden box that we talked about so when that dog sees that box. What is your your dogs? Do they go die writer that box okay. Okay so about. Let's say a meter to a meter and a half away from that box. I have a different object. Could be backpack. Could be something in that backpack because actually the item that they want. How long will that dog keep going for the box? Even though there was nothing there before it's willing to try that other object in that space and realize maybe that might have something so that's important so the dog who I used to be in love with. That'd be like Oh man how crazy for that item down a lot of times times. That dog is not mentally flexible to try something different. Quick enough income. They may have to give up but I want the dog at try something a couple of times it goes. nope this isn't working. What else can I try? So that is one simple test to do where you know you you reinforce reinforce reinforce at one object or one thing and Dan just a small distance away have a different object in that space that actually contains the item not the spot. They've been reinforced at numerous times. and seeing how long does it take them to make the change. Try something different. Because that's the real world on a deployment or any kind of whether it'd be a cop whether you'd be sport whether view be into in the military application. The dog is going to be into a different situation candidate. Make that gearshift quickly like okay. This isn't working. This is different. We he tries something this that it's a funny one because that goes against a lot of the things we think up because God yeah in selection of dogs in the past of put say like a the bowl under a great with no way the docking at to it and all things being equal the dog that spans the longest amount of time just smashing his face into the great and popping being added going crazy. He's my favorite right because he's yeah he's less he's so committed to the behavior but what you're saying maybe another dog. I mean certainly your examples even because of Boll is the visible by a dog. That goes as an alternative. He's maybe smarter and he's he's a bit prospect. Well I do in the way you so I do WanNa milk crate right. So it's it's so they can see gene so so initially do like you. Do I WANNA see how long they even if I walk away from it. Do they stay going after. Okay good I see that they can do that so now. They played this game so now the Mill Creek is still there but then I also have another object in that area where the item might be at So they go to the milk crate and they kind how to realize there's nothing there. Are they willing to go someplace else to look for. Or are they gonNA keep going there because they've been playing this game at least once or twice in me in a row and said Oh. It's got to be here because it's been here the entire time so I'm looking for that dog to switch gears mentally. How fast does it happen? Because I'm like you. I still want that dog. WHO's motivated debated for that thing? But I need a dog who is also willing to go. You know what what I'm looking for is not here. Where else might it be and let me try something else quickly? So yeah that's A. That's something I looked for yet. Turns the sort of tests that we're doing in two three day chess right just adds that extra dimension to it where we go like. I can test for the the basics. Basics turns out that we're only testing for the basics Jerus- so much more which is why we run into problems later on training. Yeah because we didn't invest fast enough true evaluation that beginning. Yeah it's it's fascinating Shipman. Ideally enjoyed talking to you about it. Hey we should look at wrapping up. Where we're we're in over and our time you'd be love? This is awesome so tell us tell us again how people can learn more of the stop from you. And where can I say. Okay so I'll kind of break it into the easiest way so silver state. Canine is like our academy. You come to Las Vegas issued a physical place right place so we do classes and seminars and things like that there are probably our number one thing is the trainers class or or a hammer classes. Those are probably are popular ones. And then there's also a demand handler classes and things like that now. Ford Canine is my company that runs the podcast that has turned into webinars and seminars. So because like you guys. There's a lot of interest in either the individuals I'm interviewing or the topics of discussion Such as this so people want to learn more so I've come up with a way to travel to wear wherever you are in the world. I'll come to you in do basically like like three day block seminar so whether it be detection through cognition as a three day block or those that want to learn the cognition aspect for dogs so they can learn how to slick dogs better or just know their dog better. I can't tell you how many knows where people How many groups have gone to? They had their dogs for years and now they do the cognitive testing. And they're like holy cow. You know now I know that much more about my dog and my joke is you don't know the person you're sleeping in your bed with. Yeah so it's it's some of these things help you with that. The in the Webinar format is a lot of what you know is the same the thing so that call like step one that gets to watch these things and then me going to you for a seminar. We get to do them. So it's I try to do it. Where like I said there's an academy there's online and then there's go to you and those three things worked together? So whether it be overstay. Canine or four hundred nine. Either way. It'll get you that had information. I shared both websites. OVERSTATE CANINE DOT COM and forty. CANINE DOT COM. Both shared information again. Ford is or canine is more or about the seminar. The testing the things like that with the cognitive stuff and then silver state. Canine you get to come to silver state. Do it there so I have all the stuff at my place. And you get you to spend three days immersed they're doing it but for those that WANNA buy the materials. I actually have the full list of things you need to have for the cognitive test. You can get it altogether off. Fly there and we'll spend in three days having fun testing however many dogs we can get through the NFL. Add the newer part all this. That's just coming out now. Is Puppy UPI cognition. So we've been doing it with adult dogs for a little bit of time now for a number of years but there hadn't been dedicated studies two puppies and how Predictive it was at a weeks old to a year-old so if we saw some contests on a puppy was it predicted that this dog would be a certain way one way or the other towards working and we have the data. Now it's coming out in the next few months I'm GONNA start sharing the puppy cognition tests as well because as you you brought up earlier getting dogs is very difficult or becoming more difficult now. And you're right so I'll use the states for example. We have good genetics. In the states. We have dogs with some amazing genetics. In the states we don't breed enough of them. To Really Start Fulfilling the reeds. We also have individuals the United States with great knowledge. What we lack is a process that raises that puppy to that working age to start its career? We need to develop our process of rearing those dogs to get them. Ready for. Working and cognition is a major major component of that. So it's not just the training so I can you know our goal is to with cognition. showed a a little like you said earlier. Puppies weakest are identifying one stronger longer. One way or another way. The breeder now knows which was to put attention on certain training aspects and have them ready one way or another depending on what the disciplines news and then once it's in that category it then gets trained exposed. What have you and then bowled into your percentage of washout drops dramatically and then we now have a process in place that gets US ready to fulfill some of our needs that we need to have because there just isn't enough dogs being produced in Europe to meet the world's demands Yep so whether it be Australia or United States we need to create a process of that rearing in cognition is a major component? In that yes yeah matter lava and and I think there's so many layers to that in the selection of dogs and even say with you when you're working with the Navy seals something that sort of always amuses me as the guys want dogs at say twelve fifteen eighteen months old when he's GonNa do testing to say whether he can go into be a military autry working dog in one of the late units on the planet but at you know at eighteen months old that Dole will especially twelve months old. He's a teenager in his brain and it's like who have been through site buds in in Navy Seals Selection Sis and commando. He's selection say. What is the likelihood of you passing housing reit lack and of course there's dogs that do the example as well stole got through and you say yeah but he and this fifteen year olds that could do butts they exist the UNICORNS is plenty? There's plenty of that would be broken at fifteen and we'd never find out that at twenty five five he was gonna be perfect for you know. And that's exactly what happens with. I think so many dogs and I'm really passionate about first of all minimizing the White St Jean Selection in working looking dogs that there's less dogs being bred in being turned into dogs that leaving someone's yard and turned food into shit but also yeah it's just getting hotter and hotter learn hotta worldwide. The problem exists every way that it's harder to find the raw dogs and so we need as many tools as we can to help us become the right dogs. I'm really passionate. Yeah and that's why I'm so excited about a lot of the stuff that you do that. It opens up a whole new avenue of dogs. That would have been just said in the past. I doesn't have the drive for it. Maybe and he does have the draw. But we just don't understand it so thinking about it this way in you know as well as I do. Psychologists have identified qualities that are common in individuals and would say that tier one operation Environ writing highly competitive. They don't take no for an answer. Their ability to want to quit is very low. You can trace all that even to a young child you'll see those sparks of that personality exist assist. Yup So what we're doing with the cognitive testing now with puppies is saying okay. Do can we see some of these traits. Let's say the ability ability to make an inference very easily right now and so the way it's kind of goes as we do the test at say three months old six months old nine months old and and what it has told us is even the scores might deviate a little bit. The category the dog is strong is stays about the same. There's not a ton of difference. Chris however if I can see at a really young age maybe a dog struggle about fifty percent of the time with making an inference will guess what I can do as that raising or right breeder a razor of the puppy is create learning objectives through brain games refund games the dog to learn how to make an inference and become stronger longer at it so now I can take dog. Who if I didn't do these? Things became non viable for what I want turn it into a viable because I paid attention to was able to identify it at that perfect age where it's important to expose them to things where they can learn your tyler the program team rather than just forcing him into the cookie cutter. You got it exactly exactly right big time. That's probably the number one thing I always. Everybody learned that dog in front of you. That's what you gotTA train. You may have a parameter of a system but you have to be mentally or you have to be flexible yourself both mentally and physically. What you're doing to that dog if you're if you're inflexible you stick to your one trading rating system? You're going to have mixed bag of results. It's interesting because it's culturally quite different here in Austria that they are not too many civilian civilian vendors of detection dogs. It's not like it is in the states where there's so many people like. MOST AMERICANS WANNA try dog because to get access to live and I know we've I've had the conversation about law versus pseudo Beshir to try and a dog and sell it. He as a as a detection dog to the forces is very very difficult and so and and you know how to use in police and military to get a tailored solution to individuals is deficient. Because if you want to say cokie cod like daddy's the military right out and so I'm excited you know as a civilian. Now that the really's it's civilian industry. That has the flexibility ability to look at everydollar as an individual and go. You know. This is what we'll do for you and these training session. Doug Juan comes out of the Kennel and we try and in particular way and then dogged dog two comes out and even though we're at the same stage in training we're doing a completely different thing Thailand to. He's needs to progress him forward. Rather than you know Diwan. Is This Day to this. And every Dogo goes through and we just lose dogs along the way so. I think that there's a real opportunity in civilian industry all around the world to stop producing dogs. We'll start training dogs in a way. Hi that police and military really would find more difficult not impossible but he's more difficult. It doesn't fit the mold so easily. No you're absolutely right. I mean one of the first slides do powerpoint. Is You have to have the ability to castaway past assumptions and be open minded to trying things differently. And if you're willing to try things differently you're going to grow your going to evolve it if you are stuck in tradition or a belief system you're going to be limited. You know so everything I'd try to Sherron explain requires having open mind in like you said some of it's going to turn stuff on its head to you and other stuff going to be like. Yeah I knew that already and that's perfect. That's exactly what I want because it validates your experience which is important but then sometimes the calls you to question maybe some of the beliefs that you had and it's time to evolve and try something different. All of your good trainers out. There will do that. They'll make adjustments go. You know what I I'll listen to it. The first time second time I'll dabble apple with a little bit more and then the third time around it. They're actually trying to do it. which is good? So that's the important part you guys just pinched on a little bit before about pseudo versus real. Is this a conversation we can have over another time. Is this a can of worms. I'M GONNA Open Ideas Academy I'll you're right and we can definitely do a show on this. Ironically I was just sitting in kindergarten class Dr Hurting class he is from Atlantic University. And he's kind of like the big chemist that's been out there at A.. Longtime for detection. Dogs a terrific. Can we have you back at another stage. And let's see something I'm really had no in it is it. He did a great slide. And I and I have my notes from it and I actually have interviewed a my podcast to who of his undergrads. Who are now professors themselves at universities and either work at the opposite Navel research or they work at a friend's lab at a university so great information nations? All of them have confirmed the same thing that he talked about. Which I have more than happy to share with you guys whenever you guys want to do? I'd love to have you back for round two and open up. That can of worms absolutely absolutely no. It's great I love to do that. One because talk about changing some belief systems That's because there's there's some people that they'll be around. Yeah but you know you like. They'll change their mind when they presented with good evidence. That's absolutely all right. Well let's take. This is an opportunity to to have you back again. Writing love this episode. Thank you Cameron. Thanks so much for making also busy. And you're actually in the middle of a conference at the moment and you took okay. Took a chunk caddy data. Talk to us a really really appreciate them. Thanks a lot no I appreciate it. I hope somehow someway get to Australia. A you know in the near future whether whether it be with you guys. I think I'll know reached out to your recently asked you about it but I would love to share the cognition stuff with everybody in your country as well as I've been doing elsewhere. Yeah for sure. We definitely have to find a way to getting some schedules to align. But until you're you're busy thanks. Thanks Cameron that was. It was absolutely fantastic. Might really riveting stuff all right. Well thank you guys very much out last time. What's your name your focus? And how can people get in contact with you too. So Oh canine. Talking sense is the podcast. That's cade number nine So canines talking sense. It's on all platforms the podcasts at an easy way to get a hold. It is Cameron C. A. M. E. R. O. N. at Ford F. Award E. K.. Number nine com perfect. So it's not talking sense because I went to look for your podcast before and I looked up talking saints. That's not. It's canine talking since yet. Canine talking sets it spelled sense like smell. Yeah there's another one called talking King Saints. That's not yours perfumes. Yeah it's perfumery. One do cross named before them neighbors neighbors for them. And then I didn't hear my podcast time and they already lodged with it so you should do across like it in canines part actually helps out anyway because then people know. Oh it's about you know guys dot Turkey Perfume podcast but of course there. Is You know because their scores. podcast everything now. Exactly all right. That's it for another episode of the Canine Paradigm as always if you like what he plays like. Right Shia subscribe we can do that through. Whatever ever subscription service you download is from? If you want to show the best way to do that is by Patriarch for thirty bucks a month. You can get access to an extra educational episode amount. Then there's a few other teasing And of course at the end of the day. If you WANNA by being a whisper room then you could just do that if you were absolutely what would you call that person a Benevolent Sole Benevolent. Evelyn Person. Who wanted to could go ahead and do that and other way? Easy jump on a taste bring in by some of our cooler and look cool as you listen to the show. Yeah exactly the new lineup. It's in the taste. Bring store and if you want to get in contact us the best way to do that used to shoot us an email and become one of the three hundred and fifty fifty one hundred emails and they just go to the Canine Paradigm Discussion Group on facebook putting the group. That's IT Glenn. Music place the listen to music that's awesome.

US Germany Florida Glenn Cook dog fighting Texas Dog School Mike Alyssa Canine Paradigm Mr Cameron Ford Graham Jay Carney Europe Las Vegas Sek Dogs Fox officer twitter Powell
Follow Your Bliss with Monday Blue // 20/01/21

The Face Radio

1:59:45 hr | 2 d ago

Follow Your Bliss with Monday Blue // 20/01/21

"From the soul of brooklyn. You're tuned in to follow your bliss with monday. Blue here on the face. Radio was good map new orleans and the chicken on twitter is good. To have you met. Charlie mighty mcdowell. My pillow faces. Thank you so much for coming through. We're gonna make the road by walking today. All because it's the end of an error ago pause and her and took greetings misty christie two and four on the check in on twitch year. We're all about the pearls today. In honor of madam vice president kamala harris perhaps in praised to my fellow face. Dj greg j on the check in thank you so much for the subscription greg. I appreciate you always Past a man some depth. We're gonna call today the big payback. Yes got to see much love zinzi bill my moderator on the check ins always good to have you since you hope. You're having a good week so far. Bad your jokes as per usual own your fake. I'm doing do dance wheeling. How did they expect. That's the greetings disco disciple checking in on the pace radio. Chat good to have you here as always much love to gene tambourine trade. The who shutdown just before. Follow your bliss on mother. May i've always time appreciate you all so much deal with whether tax. Don't do me team. Probe don't they kid ran much loved. Dj dodge from ontario outlaw one on twitch and of course the queen wanda medical buddy equa-. Hr not today. We've got a little bit of payback. Just a little woman sometimes. Just how become can't Social head coach known wasn't much love to miss franken in may burn on the checking on twitch is always good to have y'all in your other illustrious moderator gabrielle of the square stepped stepped in the room hey gaps august. Aw aw greetings to the king winco pansy chicken and on twitch is always good to have you me go. We have a lot of good music tonight. We're just warming it up right now. We're gonna shake that load off. Elevate these vibrations a little bit and always always bilour. Our bliss pass good space. This call good dow birds around greetings angel gymnastics. My sister on the check in it was a sequence pearls kind of night. Y'all everybody's show in love and the chat on twitter on the face radio chat sir. He's the cnbc nyc checking on twitch. Good to have you here tonight. I'm so looking forward to not having a sledgehammer of bad news seemingly every day. A lot of work to be done wrong. Things are certainly not perfect but today felt a little bit. Better our tickets to me. Say to your interest to sell traffic. Can you can try. Also try doing to me means but just change all right so have to wish a happy eternal birthday to this. Capricorn queen leah a big impact. She wasn't here that long but she shown very brightly when she was here. Much love to say carre and my sister. Nicky durell chicken in on twitch good to have y'all stay alive though often can stay. Don't think so from japan. Does face extent austin much love to just go junkie on the check in on twitch. Good to have you here tonight. Everybody who's listening while they make some dinner or cook or bake our mix up that specialty cocktail put a little vitamin love music in your food that good season blood. Exactly what's good. Dj ultraviolet zero seven my boo checking in good to see you that we said no we salvage play. Oh i once again. You're tuned in to follow your bliss mc monday blue here on the face radio to you from those soul of sending out these vibrations worldwide thinking. Everybody who's rock with me on the face and on twitch dot tv. We're gonna to have a good time tonight. Y'all pan on the thousand book brayden Log carol spf on the champion on twitch piece. The cousin it's matt baron check in and on twitch another fellow faced. Dj can catch. Greg j tonight on the face at ten. Pm eastern standard time. You can check out here on the face on saturday six to eight pm joints matt. Barron it's a very good show matt very dj. That's why he's our cousin. Make sure you follow. I gregor d. And it's matt barron out to everybody on twitch renan down their first concert experiences right now. turn Degree takes today degree. It's boiling boy whether this is your first time or you're a regular listener to follow your bliss with monday. Blue please no. It's an all vinyl show so we like to let the record brees a little bit a room temperature ever as maku bill so runs up facebook. Ads be owned. Thanks to you to me. Much love to princess cornet another very dope. Dj make sure your follow her much. Love is sherry hansen on the check on twitch always good to have you thank you for hosting report and time do book To be the one you want to pay want to be the one but you go with axelrod won't be out much love to jaime j. on the check in on twitch but the jamie thank you for blessing even with those video edits. I really love those. Thank you so much it. Will we see new twirling. Ultra-violet is a girl on girl makes the women could make the album off. Love bomb is old store back. Full used to play the saxophone. Voices pizza species the hat ester ladies and gentlemen stacked up a monkey on eight dollars while on the dance floor. The people twenty starbucks with money earned the mount vernon who live in chile. Contests bill steve. Tap that winner rapid. Check out of sniff forward but a synthesis legit. You got any questions so much love to my sister from another mother susan glass in the chicken all the way from ireland. Good to have you here. Susan took loma heavy guy. No save next thing. Checked him alaska's stave off stage for wanted to win. It's your name keith. Stereotyped around the block albro. Somebody chased that wanted mexican walking into what happened event. Let's talk look. Listen this over that. You don't wanna miss step two two zero five because we got the mr dean. Come see me fulfill my safety. I can make to talk for. Just be prepared for what we have in store with. Be the allows split off really laid out the way we move the way grew and when he a hot still south back when that you know on the go speedo us much love to my brother. My brother big yellow to three to check in on twitch always good to have you much handcart. Thank you so much for that gift. Subscription in your subscription. We appreciate you so much. Keep the box. No nationwide based on my mic missed. People not getting up to south stop. And now you're leaving. Yeah i am mailo. I hope i said that. Right checking on twitch. Glad to have you here tonight and it's not the case. Let's go to my pillow face. Already took says the chicken on the face chat thinking you for rocket with me tonight from mongolia all use and check out the keyboard to predator chicken and on twitch to have you say what they stays the best in the south west and east coast africa down active compared to my the place. The house Include we're here. Oh getting out. What's taboo to go split saying to again arizona. All battling go back talk about me. Just remember to today. You say not states to say abbey spurred by my own and you're saying about you out camp took thirty common jack of all trades and a massive now but we can have big fun time and your on monday blue here on the face. Radio coming to you from the soul of brooklyn. Alvin lives worldwide. There she is the birthday girl diamond roles. Happy birthday diamond. Another capricorn queens. But it's now a season so happy. Aquarius season two. Aquarians out there By fast that's fun saddam. Don't start out support from down and out in laws and with a gun and then from ours. We can't read you keep on in card then. There's no more tonight and the people face that john paul's fast malls off. Paul your take train fact by brady who killed it in this video. Just to the background doing graffiti but chile and everybody who fell a little bit rapturous today for whatever. Even let's take that bill and carry it through the rest of this week to the weekend was off with. Tv ga back where he went out of the san and don't just last long shot clock men. Stop this bar now. Only you but i don't have a you aw teams been. It's okay you so much. Pledge loved phillips. Dj monte mcdowell on the check in on the face radio chat mighty the lovely person in a lovely dj. He's on thursday nights the same as my show but on thursday. Six to eight cents waves. Excellent show lovey mighty. Thanks for tuning in girl greetings. Dj knowledge check in on twitch led to having here tonight pro paulsen banning though i did this minneapolis flunk. Nothing like best. If you're a long-time listener. Follow your bliss with monday blue. You know that at one time. I only aspiration life with the club mtv dancer or a flagrant living color. Tv would have been fine. Gonna take it back to that for a minute still alive. Don't big did remember the whole vocalist controversy. Martha wash saying the vocals in the studio but then they had the model in both. Listen the video but it turned out that she could sing to sing live whenever she went on like. The radio shows a talk. Show like arsenio hall but a time. It was to be alive stupid. You see four talk nothing number because if you love freestyle from the soul of brooklyn you're tuned into the face. Radio retail plot pulled book team employed tuned in volume blizzard. Monday blue here on the face radio. Let's love everybody who's listening right now on the face. Radio or on twitch dot. Tv should to my twitter family. Who is cutting up tonight with good. Brinkema bows chicken in from the uk curve. The past bill. One do ever stop to slow. Kit dow so close faraway next council as greetings. Let s enc. Checking in on twitch. Muscle was good. Darren oh this go dare in nineteen sixty six. Thank you for checking in with Racking with us tonight hero follow your bliss me forget a chill out for a second take energy all the way back up one no one. No one much loved filtration. Twelve in from toronto so canada's deepen here tonight so close yet long. List much love to my unicorn brother. My north carolina hometown boy michael homes and the check in on twitch always good to have you michael messing workers over. We turn up right now. Let's go manigault robert. Don't captain of the plant atop join over japan and all points magnificent life plain simple time. Tonic grab the mic is so versus paragraph. He went in the senate disciplined like slum steadily aggressive excel. Like i expected lyrically impressive gets it was. Jack's rob east coast uptown. Seeing the most spreading meko all ram selecting the big people. Dj makes the bill and ninety one doulos plus Dabney impact in night in tokyo new york and all these different way. I'm here to stay online. Rano forever is not my business. Which i have done the same bradley again in iowa. People say selena forever. Talk greedy craig on the check in. Thank you for coming through. Follow your bliss tonight We're racket until eight pm on the radio and then seeing how we feel will just go into all your bliss after hours here on twitch Tallahassee talk thanks. Big stop new to. That's right happy birthday to the goats kapor queen. Helen full assadi do celebrate her birthday. Last week we wait on that new album. Yes jim to these doc. Washburn been does in many ways. It's not just between a man and the you'll about you. Everything is love greeting selected. Ohio on the check in on twitter. Everything is love right now. We're following our bliss and it's time for the fonte and drunk will power our these piece to the thrill sergeant. Dj applejack on the chicken on twitch. Make sure you follow. Dj applejack a dope. Di dope producer. And he is the brill sergeant. That man knows how to apply some pressure Much love to my fellow spillman sister in a very art is heather checking in on twitch heather door. It's good to have you happy new year. And i ask sounds off some peace if you feel like to happen soggy night. Let me see some hard emotes in the chat right now on twitter bill. That's right. it's an all vinyl showing sometimes vinyl crackles. That's what's going on right now but you still get the idea. Thanks wow just stand the guest. This doesn't taste spring a little salt on this situation right now. Adoped a group out of the uk. Let's just dance is found a way. Pass be accurate data as well data doesn't onto you at just wanna dance greetings. Dj infrared check it end on twitch. That's a very cool name. Today is the end of an error. Thank you for rock with while your blitz with monday blue here on the face radio coming to you from the soul of birth lengthening alba worldwide. I was thinking today. I said i have to give some love and a special shout to whomever came in and cleaned fumigated and smudge the white house down today because my god. That was a job to do talk. Best just talk Show today rock. And ron rock with this on twitch behead solid gold dancer duracell win. God is right there another. Uk art is being shaped delightful. Little grew right here record breaking in the house. Good to have you you remember. Dr sell body was tight braids down to here and she could dance dance before. I wanted to be a clue. Tv dancer. I wanted to be a solid gold dancer. Because of dr self but you see the theme here yes onboard shoutout to the young queen. Amanda gorman the youngest poet laureate to speak at an inauguration She beautiful job today. All is so touching. It was beautiful. I think my favorite part of the whole event And i wanna goes. I took office much. Loved everybody winning ways right now running up right now. Tiny little vintage soka did get off. I love bomb out on monday. This is from trinidad. Still gotta give some love to the islands. The caribbean some of the heritage of madam vice president kamala harris off food. I was like good gracious. Taste places for the right time shoes. I'm leaving please believe me rest amount through even on that you maybe tell me. What's the use wanted to the ball in the bottles. Other famous scott eighty down into the top down six times pocket. Chica- got out walked game. Because they mckinney sweat this join with a winner so maybe can leave. Chevy do affection third base in time. We gotta i'm asking. Don't extra neptune with some of the bitten. Sassoon about restrooms repeated hot in here on monday blue on the radio. A little bit from the soul of brooklyn sending out vibrations worldwide. Fifteen minutes left here on the face radio. I keep a locked in here for by booking with mr cameron up neck and then at ten pm. Dj greg j plan some slow jams for you. So thank god. He's only by cairo. Sushi tokyo on the check in on twitter. Good to have you here and if you're rocking with me on twitch stay tuned because we'll go into a little after hours tonight to kick off scared and go for your excuse is the base the base. That's the piece. The father walked off base. The base put f. b. aretha took. Oh my god four years of somebody wanna be starting something every damn weeks using a massive air. I'm so sorry every week it's over. That's over is done width. The new breath added case died on the turkey in on twitch one half of love from nyc very dope dj. Just make sure you follow. Lady flick in lebanon fi as well fellow vinyl. Dj's always good to have. You was up to my pillow base. Mr we'd on the check in but to have you love report back based on based dot com best back back on account. Think not up. Yes i hope you feel a little bit lighter. Feel vibrations have elevated. Ob fill inspired to go out and follow. Your bliss. Much loved west bilman sister kim williams checking in all the way from seattle washington. Kim the to have you once again. I'll be back here next week. Same time same place on the face radio and on twitter dot tv keeping locked in on the face radio for mr cameron up with bionic boogie. Much love to all my face. Dj's who with tonight. I appreciate you all very very much. If you're hanging out with me on twitch keep it locked in we're going to go into a little after hours bonus time right now. It is definitely the end of an error. Get out there and follow your bliss book doctor. You must do dilu- by album to respect all the ancestors elected bicycle song Jersey right here. If you love prince rogers nelson those purple hearts in the chat for me taste. This classic sounded talk. The cancer bridge down to still got the biggest just chelsea read more books in a was thirty three bank. Get you. don't nobody up. You're tuned in to the face radio.

greg j Charlie mighty mcdowell misty christie zinzi bill twitter bilour brooklyn Nicky durell matt baron Greg j kamala harris gregor d matt barron princess cornet sherry hansen jaime j bill steve susan glass mailo
Uneasy lies the head: Thailands under-fire king

The Economist: The Intelligence

24:54 min | 4 months ago

Uneasy lies the head: Thailands under-fire king

"This podcast is sponsored by light box lab grown diamonds. They've act a billion year process to grow stunning lab grown diamonds in about two weeks, and there's some of the highest quality stones that exist they're always near colorless always vs clarity always, very good cut and always eight hundred dollars per carat. They come in three colors to white blush pink and soft blue after they're grown in the lab there transformed into jaw dropping lab-grown diamond jewelry. Its beauty meets brains go to light box jewelry, dot com slash intelligence, and use code intelligence for twenty five dollars off. A. Hello and welcome to the intelligence on economist radio I'm your host Shanxi standing in for Jason Palmer every weekday we provide you with a fresh perspective on the events that are shaping the world. FREEMASONRY has been one of the most controversial and contagious ideas of the modern age spreading to every corner of the world since Mason's I began meeting hundreds of years ago in the Ale houses of London but in recent years, then numbers have dwindled. And in Britain social distancing may have put an official stopped to clubbing but under the radar fans relic chronic music are still finding ways to get their fixed unsurprisingly raves and pandemics don't mix well. But first. Thailand is bracing for a large anti-government protests tomorrow. The Roddy. Shuttled to take place at university, which was the site of a student massacre decades ago and comes after weeks of demonstration's. The best attended was in the middle of August. When more than ten thousand people marched in Bangkok calling for Political Change, PA me-meeting learn how Students have no choice. We can only come out. We don't want to grow up and have kids ask us when the country was facing injustice for you doing. The protests started off largely as student movements. Different groups of young people around Johnson is the economist Southeast Asia correspondent. We've seen them spread actually in into high schools, and now they seem to be gaining traction among a large segment of the population. What can we expect from tomorrow's protests? We've got two different versions of what's going to happen tomorrow. The protesters' who are organizing the rallies. At Thomas, university anticipate fourteen thousand people coming the authorities are trying to poo poo that. And say you know perhaps it'll be half as many will show up even survey not taking any chances. There were also thousands of police who are being marshalled to keep the event in order, and we've just had actually the deputy minister who is extremely close ally of the prime minister is going to be running the operations into that sexually monitoring the rally. Marta who all these protesters and what's the back story how did they get started? There's been frustration building in Thailand for a number of years the current prime minister and many of his closest henchman seized power in a coup in two thousand fourteen and for while they promised that that would be elections but there wasn't actually one until last year and even when that election occurred the current time constitution ensure that. It wasn't really a level playing field for opposition parties who ran against pro-military potties and others who eventually came together in a coalition and one so that Prime Minister Pray Challenge Child at full McCoy leader could stay in power. So many ties were very annoyed that they had the liberties. Ko they waited many years for an election and then it wasn't savvy the first place and then on top of all that. A particularly, Popular Party led by a very charismatic young politician businessman who basic he got fed up with state of Thailand and decided to become involved in politics. The long. The short of it is that the Ponti Future forward was dissolved earlier this year in February, and that was when we first started to see some flashbulbs few street protests and anger starting to build about the current government. What the protesters want is, is it just the reinstatement of the party or something else I? Think the core protest is believed that this is all moved above. And beyond future forward, a lot of the platform and policies that future forward advocating for things that many of the press testers would like to advance in Thailand more freedoms. An end to harassing opposition activists to protest is also want to see parliament dissolved the crucially they know that dissolving parliament might not do much good until there is a new constitution of the protesters unified what they want. So. That is one particularly contentious issue in all of this, and that's the fact that some of the boldest protesters' have called for reform of the monarchy. The monarchy in Thailand is deeply revered. It's Tabu to to criticize the institution and indeed a less. Law provides up to fifteen years in prison for anyone to be in badly insulting the monarch the current monarch. King. Vajiralongkorn or Rama, the tents took over from his extremely popular father who died in two thousand sixteen and it's been a bumpy road since then as a result for the very first time pretesting and are openly criticizing some of the things that King Vigia along his dumb in particular, they are unhappy with the way in which he has poked crown assets in his own name and they are also unhappy about the fact that he has taken sutton important military units under his pulse no command and a lot of those stationed importantly right in Bangkok so how significant these protests the government. The fact that these protests have been growing since the middle of July slowly, but steadily ease programmatic and the longer they go on the bigger the headache this becomes the government, the students specific and not going away. They're not intimidated by the dozens of people who've been arrested for participating all leading, Maranda? What are the army and the government doing about this? So far it seems to have been a case of wait-and-see. We've seen a few dozen protesters arrested particularly the leadership, but we haven't seen any really tough crackdown and given Thailand's. Of cracking down on student protests, quite bloody manner, and in particular here I'm thinking of events in the nineteen seventies. One Fair on love People's minds is. What happens when the establishment runs short on patients with all of this, it's difficult to say precisely what will happen but the chances all dramatic intervention I think. NEVA'S ERA in Thailand Verandah. Thank you. Thanks so much. This week on our sister podcast of the economist asks and Macelroy has been speaking to David Cameron the former British Prime Minister who called the twenty sixteen referendum that resulted in Britain vote to leave the European Union Mr Cameron told Man, he's optimistic. A trade deal can be salvaged despite Prime Minister Boris Johnson's threat to override part the BREXIT withdrawal agreement. So I chose to see it in that way as it were more of A. Tactical move by the. British government and I want the British government to succeed in this negotiation. So I've tried to avoid giving a running comet trail and the tactics they're employing but I did make very clear that you know when it comes to something like this actually breaching. International Law. Bypassing Act of parliament in this way should be a last resort and Norte I thought and Mr Cameron, was over optimistic about the outcome of the Referendum in two thousand sixteen is he over-optimistic? Now he is putting himself more optimistic sunlight of the balance sheet. He says look when you sound like the bad temper and the brinkmanship of Boris Johnson at the moment. which has angered a lot of people in the EU and quilt people in the UK as well. He thinks we can get through this. Well, let's see. He also did say to me however, the bells that some damage is done along the way he says, he wouldn't have done it like this, but some will be right the I will be a deal with it went deal. To hear the full interview with Cameron just such economists asks forever you get your podcasts. Not. Make. Any claim of divine origin or supernatural attributes freemasonry? We realized that any organization composed of human being necessarily have many perfection. For almost as long as they've been meeting, the freemasons have been defending themselves against conspiracy theories. They're blindfolded initiation ceremonies, obscure rituals and strict secrecy seem designed to arouse suspicions always fiercely denied a first objective, which is a very of at this particular time. subjective loyalty, and devotion to our government. In Nineteen Thirty One New York's grandmaster proclaimed a different aim a freemasonry. But his dad, his fault fine purposes noble principal. Objectives are. Carried out will help a great deal to make this world better. Ninety years on the impact of freemasons is still being debated. Question of when where and how the freemasons I came into beings. It's still strongly contested that said, we can with some confidence point to the late seventeenth century or perhaps the early eighteenth century in London. Jamie MCI RIGHT ABOUT CULTURE FOR THE ECONOMIST. One of the main goals I think that they were attempting to talk about questions of morality questions of philosophy, and in England at the beginning of the eighteenth century with talking about integrity friendship respects and charity they were longing to build bonds I would argue beyond the social class structures of the time in which they were living you. If they took those ideas of friendship and solidarity in those sorts, values seriously does that mean the not chaotic the rituals make the look. I think this is a fascinating barrels. We do imagine them very largely in relation to these rituals. This was effectively a recruiting tool in the early stages of the organization. This is not to say the men but did not take them seriously but in some of their activities in their Lucien, they were really part of this protein modern energies that were animating Europe I think a very good illustration of this is perhaps Italy in the nineteenth century, the unification process which was led by Giuseppe Garibaldi and the coats. Got The himself was a mason in the masons one of the leading forces including for parliamentary democracy and for open political process which how this fits in with the rituals I think is absolutely fascinating paradox. Not a religion. But they undoubtedly do a lot of things that religions do John dickey is a historian and author of the craft and you history of the freemasons. Their rituals deal with the big questions of life and meaning of life and how to behave while and the fear of death. All of those kinds of things they wanted to cover some of the same territory as religion create a similar kind of fellowship among men and that I think is where secrecy comes in. What underlies that secrecy? Do you think? Originally I think it's intention was to bring an element of sacredness to proceedings if you believe in religious tolerance and you can't bring any theological content to your rituals and your belief system then secrecy is a wonderful magic dusk to spread over everything you do when you take all that elaborate wrapping of secrecy away actually what you get is some disarmingly banal moral truths being, I. Sky try and find out a bit more about the world and deaths pretty serious business kind of puts perspective on things but the other thing that the secrecy does also. Enemies people who thought the freemasons because they were secretive must be up to no good. Do you think any VAT suspicion is warranted? It depends when you go yes and no the history freemasonry as a history of schisms and splits and different branches across the world people just out and out ripping off the idea for their own purposes. Absolutely in certain times and places that suspicion about freemasonry has been justified people have used the cloak of masonic secrecy for political conspiracy. I'm thinking of early nineteenth century Italy. Or indeed for crime as in in Italy in the late seventies, early eighties. So in the eighteenth and nineteenth century in the face of all this enmity, how did the freemasons survive and indeed spread? Well, one reasons that they became fundamental as a sort of support. For the British Empire. If you were an imperial soldier bureaucrats, I knew a moving around between sort of Cape Town in Calcutta in Canada. You would find in the launch when you arrived the readymade support network welfare system even sort of entertainment hub. freemasonry became one of the most contagious ideas in modernity. As so the organizational model, you could call it brotherhood Bastogne, oaths, and rituals kind of cloak of secrecy fee like. And you can see the DNA of the Masonic Organiz ation model things as diverse as the Ku Klux Klan with the Sicilian mafia all the Mormon church. Cheney is ultimately patronage group isn't it accepting some? Expensive, L. is. One narrative that can say this is just a free male middle-class establishment gatekeepers who were in a sense of sort of conservative protecting their own interests. This is not quite right. Many of these individuals also reached out to include other people from different social classes. So they were members of the aristocracy. There was some literate members of the working class there as well in the West at least organized religion religious ideas have become less important secularism is more important kloss distinctions perhaps less significant. The freemasons have a future in that context. The question of the future of the freemasons really does depend on. The capacity to which they're able to adapt and transform. There are few difficulties ahead. The membership is now really declining quite rapidly today there about six million members worldwide in nineteen sixties. The total freemason members in North America where at four million that's now dropped to around about one million. The anecdotal evidence is that it's into new members who have recently joined are leaving very quick which clearly. Demonstrates there's there's a cultural social gulf between what young future freemasons looking for I'm what the society is able to offer given the history of the society, a something that has historically professed to be a progressive force. The facts that in the twenty first century is still impossible for women to participate within the largest is something has to change Rob Creeks Jamie. Thank you very much. Thank you. The night time economy has been hit hard by the pandemic nightclubs have been forced to close putting deejays and promoters out of. There that just because the clubs are closed, doesn't mean the party's destroyed. In Britain legal raves are enjoying something of a revival. Frankly right throughout Britain for the economist, the met police has recorded more than thousand raves in the last few months and many people are saying this is kind of a throwback to the late eighty s and early ninety s back. Then illegal acid house parties started happening all over the country. What are these raves actually like the traditional stereotype, his house techno music taking place in an abandoned warehouse or something things are a bit different. Now over the summer at least they've tended to happen in big outdoor spaces, kind of in the middle of nowhere, and the kind of music really varies depending on the event to so now do still play House and techno, but also are and be drum and bass a few weeks ago. There was a big rave in a tiny Welsh village called Babylon three and a half thousand people turned up but it's really all because of the closure of nightclubs. Choose to the pandemic lockdown as revive that spirit of acid house and really hard and Ravers who have nowhere else to go have turned to illegal parties again, and he's the revival of raving entirely result of the pandemic largely. But even before the pandemic rates for making a bit of a comeback covid of accelerated that trend, the revival was a result of expensive rents in big cities, which made it harder for nightclubs on cheap nights and also precarious operating licenses to big venues of how to pass that cost onto clubbers entry to print works, which is a big factory turned club in southeast London. Forty pounds just for a night and drugs and much less tolerated to oversee an illegal rave while they're much cheaper because have to deal with licensing and venue costs, and also there are no rules because it's illegal he can do whatever you like these ours you say illegal raves. So how the authorities cracking down on them authorities are having a really hard time trying to stop them because they will happening at such a low level. It wasn't too much for problem of there being A. Resurgence. Now, the approach, the the police and the government seems to be taking is deterrent in recent weeks new finds of being introduced by the government of up to ten thousand pounds for the organizers of these parties. But the big fines aren't having that much of an effect because it's very difficult to work out who's organizing them in the first place and that's because they're so secretive locations are often kept quiet until the last minute and even then details only shared with a ten dis. Through. Private channels like what's happened instagram messages, which is actually quite similar to the nineteen eighty s and ninety s when people would have to phone number from a phone box to find out where a policy was happening all the legal alternatives for UK Ravens than there aren't really at the moment. So in recent weeks, some music events have started up again but much more tame that kind of socially distance concerts happening in traditional venues, some promoters have tried to organize legal socially distance raves. I spoke to one organizer who said he put on the first, which is very early lockdown. He had seven hundred and fifty people applies account but could only let in forty people even then the police still turned up and try to shut it down until it was explained that it was going on legally this week actually new restrictions which limit social gatherings are the indoor or outdoors to six people have come in making it even more difficult to organize one of these events safely and legally. Six people doesn't sound like much of a rave. Is there a safe way to do this independent nick? Honestly not really it's obviously very hard socially distant set arrive. There have been the helping of criticism within the music industry of so-called Plague Raves in countries where venues have reopened as they haven't in Britain yet nightclubs have been criticized on any kind of events at all contributing to spikes in resurgences in the virus. One case of this is in south, Korea which did. Very well, it containing the virus. But when things thought reopened a number of cases with trace back to to some nightclubs in Seoul and that led to a huge amount of criticism within the press and in society as well. Just dougherty runs legal acid house parties in London, and he's one of the many deejays who calling people out for throwing playgroups in the past we definitely through with Julius legality, we would do these parties in this abandoned ship station and we had. People like affects twin gold, FRAPP and Luke Vibert and stuff play I generally support illegal parties I. Think there are a vital part of the scene, the illegal parties that are happening now I think it's pretty irresponsible to be honest. It's hard because people wanNA party and people are out of work, DJ's musicians and unsown and so forth. But I just think now's not really the time says quite hard to track what kind of effect these raves are happening on the spread. Of the virus attendees to register their attendance, there are legal, but there is already some evidence in Britain of raves increasing the spread of Covid, nineteen a couple of weeks ago health authorities in Leeds in the north of England attributed an increase in new virus cases to illegal raves and House parties that were going on that said, I spoke to somebody who went to the illegal rave at the edge of the BRECON beacons and he said he was surprised to see attendees. Still using hand sanitizer somewhere worry almost well. Thank you very much. Can't. Talk. That's all for this episode of intelligence. If you enjoyed listening to us, please give racing on Apple podcasts and see back here on Monday. When you need your bank capital one is right in the palm of your hand. So you can check your balance deposit checks, pay bills and transfer money from your phone with a top rated APP, and when you're done banking, put it back in your pocket. A banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined get started online anytime. What's in your Wallet Capital One NA member FDIC.

Thailand Britain prime minister London David Cameron Boris Johnson Bangkok England UK Italy Jason Palmer economist Southeast Asia British government Shanxi Mason EU Luke Vibert Seoul Thailand Verandah Ponti Future
The Irish backstop: Brexit's biggest hurdle

FT Big Read

17:55 min | 2 years ago

The Irish backstop: Brexit's biggest hurdle

"Welcome to the financial times. Big read a Wiki podcast, featuring the best of our long form reporting from around the world. I'm Harry Robertson from the opinion and analysis desk in the two years since Britain voted to leave the U the so-called Irish backstop has become the primary obstacle in the way of Brexit deal. Say Alex Barker, and Arthur Beasley the plan which would avoid hawed border with Northern Ireland is the result of intense diplomacy by Dublin and his eagerly supported by Brussels. But Theresa May faces implacable opposition to it from Brexit as an all in Foster's DP, just how did the issue becomes so important? This report is narrated by Alex Barker. No one quite remembers who coined the term that could sing Brexit talks in public at least. It was Leo Veronica the Irish premier who. I mentioned a backstop plan for the Northern Ireland border, quote, if all else failed the old, cricket expression. Stuck capturing in a word. The biggest diplomatic gamble on Brexit since Britain's referendum. Mr. Radka was addressing the deal in December twenty seventeen off the UK politics had gone in his words somewhat passionate. He told the Irish parliament that he wanted a backstop plan to guarantee no harm border would return to the island of island. Whatever happens to you EU relations after Brexit. The even in such a vague form. The idea had brew Brexit talks and to raise amazed minority government in Westminster to the brink of collapse. Within a few days, a messy compromise was found where Britain I agreed to the principle of a backstop. But it was an imprecise plan and senior EU negotiators of the time. Saw quote a big collision over Northern Ireland status as unavoidable at some point one said the Irish border is where reality meets Brexit fantasy. With just four months left to Brexit day that final reckoning is fast approaching boulder. Disputes of again, Brexit talks to a halt. Mrs may is cornered in Westminster visceral language is back in Northern Ireland politics with unions vowing to protect their quote blood, red lines, Brexit negotiates a see the risk of a new deal exit rising sharply warnings of returns of violence in the province are shockingly routine from politicians and police alike and behind the dauntingly complex, Brussels negotiation. Stands one in scape. -able issue. One senior e you officials said no matter how you turn in you always come back to all backstop. Seen from Brussels. It is a merge is almost inevitable. Practical response to Brexit related problems to keep include land borders in Ireland would require as a loss result. A regulatory line along the Irish Sea with the UK province sitting in the EU trade and regulatory zone in practice. However, this backstory idea evolved over time more so than any other element of the ease. Brexit negotiating strategy. It is the story of two years of painstaking Irish diplomacy the locked in a formidable EU alliance helped along by British missteps and miscalculations. Out of a crisis of trust has emerged an insurance policy the could make or break a Brexit divorce deal as well as frame the future UK EU relationship set against the full boating legacy of the troubles in Northern Ireland which stretched to the late nineteen ninety s and claimed more than three thousand six hundred lives. The stakes could hardly be higher. With hindsight one senior EU diplomat closely involved in the talks says Britain's except some of the backstop principle has boxed in both sides calling. It quite a catastrophic mistake senior British figures have privately wound Brussels that it is the equivalent of a cough Jinyan piece. So in salt in the earth, whether the warnings overblown or not today, the backstop is the headline price for an exit deal and Woodley Brexit, Simon covy islands deputy premier last week said that will be no withdrawal agreement without the backstop and the story. Bricks does often trace their backstop woes too, Mr. Veronica depicting him as an impetuous the t nine year old leader pandering to nationalists. But the most significant shift actually came under his predecessor and the Kenny the amenable fullness schoolteacher who served as t- ship the six years until June twenty seventeen. He had a good rapport with David Cameron fos stronger than with his successor. Mrs may the to even spoke in the referendum aftermath, just before Mr Cameron resigned as British Prime minister one ally of mister Kenny says, he was typical Cameron. He was very Chipper. It just didn't fall away that kind of thing. The Irish government was more prepared than Britain for the implications of the Brexit vote, and certainly less breezy. But the results was still disorientating shock Dublin's. First instinct was to save the nineteen ninety eight Good Friday agreement the bedrock of peace in Northern Ireland through bilateral fixes informal exchanges. Between officials began with London to look at technical solutions for the border ensuring the free flow of goods for both north-south and east-west trade the main route for Irish exports to Britain and Europe. At this stage. Michel Barnier, the EU's chief Brexit negotiator was also exploring ideas London had long championed, so cool, trusted traitor, schemes technology and systems to minimize regulatory checks at the border with time though, it became evident that European law gave little space for such muddle through options. The political. Magic of the Good Friday packed relied in part on Ireland and the UK being members the pact. Does not mention borders or customs because Coleman e you rules and cools allowed the Irish frontier to become virtually invisible bricks it brought back to the full a highly sensitive question that had been sidestepped whose laws should apply in Northern Ireland to keep the borders. Open. By January twenty seventeen mister Kenny realized technical fixes would not cut it Northern Ireland. I required political solutions he sold it'll choice given MRs may in her Lancaster House speech that month seem determined to pursue incompatible aims to leave the EU customs union and single market, but keep the UK border open with almond an Irish officials said it became very clear. The we needed an insurance policy. Mister, Kenny told MRs may is much since Brexit cools the problems he was down to Britain to fix them. Mr. Radka further harm the tone. One senior British official says the shelters came down in Dublin. Stephen only full mid Brexit spokesman for the opposition FINA foil party says relations became quite more antagonistic he adds the official level antagonism was an instruction from government to cease engagement with British officials. Underlying this was a more fundamental strategic choice. Christopher mcraven a professor at Queens University. Belfast says omlund was faced with the question. It has never really answered before. If that has to be a choice will you line up with Europe Britain? One e you diplomat handling Brexit thinks the decision was clear enough saying they won't be close to Britain that they decided they had to be close to us. When it came to the negotiation Dublin's first big achievement was pushing Northern Ireland to the front of the Brexit Q off to the referendum move European capitals. New little of the province, nor the problems Brexit raised. But by April twenty seventeen in their official negotiating mandate. Mr. Bonnier, e you leaders described this small region as all quote paramount importance for the mall, one of the top three priorities in divorce talks Dublin had convinced its partners to back what European Council president Donald tusk described as an island I policy. Yet. The us precise aims remained undefined. It's guidelines instructed Mr. Bonnie to seek quotes flexible and imaginative solutions for the Irish border. But it was not until the end of twenty seventeen that the backstop plan emerged drawing a regulatory line along the Irish Sea. It wants support for two crucial reasons the first was British tactics. Sta Bonnie and many Member States full David Davis than Brexit secretary was using the provinces quote a bargaining chip exploiting concerns. I've apiece to start compensation about favourable trade terms for the whole UTA Northern Ireland daily backstop avoided that trap. The second was I wish foresight rather than plead for exemptions for its Nolan Boorda Dublin understood its diplomatic strength came from upholding EU law. If necessary across the entire island of Ireland, one EU diplomat says the had other European capitals seen Northern Ireland as a loophole the sympathy for Ireland and. The approach one over France in other close UK trading partners who had worried about the unorthodox land border arrangements, creating a back door to the single market soft. Brexit supporters also wound to the idea thinking, it might tick the debate towards closer UK EU relations, one senior EU diplomat closely involved in the policy says everyone weaponized Northern Ireland for their own interests. The most important decision. However was arguably still to come. When accepting a backstop last December Downing Street was aware, quote, some point big strategic decisions were being taken in a very specific context. According to another senior British official, but Brexit is thought they had wriggle-room Boris Johnson. Former foreign secretary claimed he was sure the concessions were a meaningless way to make progress in divorce talks days after the December deal. Mr. Davis said it was not quite a legally enforceable thing. With a naive all misinformed. The remarks reinforced Mr. Bonnie as worst fears just as the European Commission was assessing how to put a backstop in Britain's exit treaty it boasted the Commission's instincts to go for an uncompromising. Self contained legally watertight approach, even if it meant taking the political poff of most resistance with London. Mr. Bonnie finally published a full version of the backstop in his draft exit agreement in February of the London was unable to put forward his own proposal as it had promised the paper mocked the fateful turn which has snarled up talks to this day. The EU was in effect demanding Britain pledged to potentially cede control of much of Northern Ireland's economy and trade policy. The terms would be fully detailed in Britain's exit treating it respective of what future relationship the UK sold with the EU even Dublin was taken aback by the bluntness of early drafts and tried to soften parts, according to EU diplomats unionists denounced an e you plot to AmEx Northern Ireland will MRs may said, no British Prime minister could accept such trade barriers within the UK one. Senior figure on the UK side said Mr. Bonnie egg created a zero sum political game in Northern Ireland situation. The region's peace negotiators studiously avoided when senior figure on the UK side of talk says as soon as the commission put that backstop down. There was no going. I'm back with hindsight. Even some on the EU side have misgivings over the stock February draft, the political implications of the Commission's technical solution. Whenever formerly discussed with a you leaders all the college of twenty eight commissioners, one e you diplomat said it was taken quote in a political vacuum. Another critic of the move on the EU side says it short-circuited the process of reflection. If we had ever wondered about different ways they were now closed off. Mrs Maes governing. Majority relies on the Democratic Unionists the dominant pro British party in the region and their warnings could hardly be clearer. All in foster. The UP leader has said even watered down versions of the backstop cross her blood red lines. Strikingly? She has also drawn parallels with the nineteen eighty five Anglo-Irish agreement deal seed in the unionist memory as a betrayal where London gave Dublin the say in Northern Ireland's affairs. Unionists took to the streets in a campaign of civil disobedience and in a sermon in paisley, the DUP founder, denounced, prime minister, Margaret Thatcher. He said gold in RAF take vengeance. Upon this wicked treacherous lying woman. Mr. mccrum said miss Foster's evocation of nine thousand nine hundred five sins Shiva's, I do not think they bluffing. He said. And so there is a real problem has regard the future of island. Neither side is bluffing. Mrs Maes preference is to create a cascades of alternative options to ensure a Northern Ireland only backstop is no longer needed at least for customs these included. The stench of Britain's transition period or a temporary UK e you customs union. The objections all plentiful the EU refuses to allow the backstop for Northern Ireland to potentially become a full trade deal for the UK insisting any UK EU customs union is negotiated off the Brexit. Brexit is furious at being tied to the east customs union without a clear and date. Meanwhile, the DUP hates Northern Ireland being bound to the EU's goods regulations creating barriers across the Irish Sea. The split the UK market. Mrs may is aiming for deal with Brussels the would allow her to claim a Northern Ireland backstop will not be needed. No one knows with their will pass muster in Westminster. Mr. Bonnier has no qualms over demanding legal certainty for vulnerable region. Even if it leads to an outcome with no deal and Obama, stop some e you diplomats wish alternative Paul's had been taken to avoid this standoff but recognize it is now impossible to undercut island. Brigid Laffan the professor of the European University Institute in Florence asks did the UK's subliminally think that small island would not retain the support. She adds. We're bigger were more important that does not wash. If you're a country leaving he need to mind, your manners, home the way out. Thank you for listening. If even -joyed this big report cost, you can subscribe on all the usual channels. If you're not already an F T subscriber. Visit F T dot com forward slash offer fraud latest subscription office. This episode was produced by Harry Robinson.

Northern Ireland EU Britain UK Woodley Brexit Brexit Mrs Maes Dublin Brussels Ireland Irish Sea mister Kenny Mr. Bonnie egg Brexit UTA Northern Ireland official Northern Ireland London Leo Veronica Mr. Radka
A Pioneer for the Next Generation: Jes Staley, Barclays CEO

Yahoo Finance Presents

19:25 min | 1 year ago

A Pioneer for the Next Generation: Jes Staley, Barclays CEO

"This podcast is brought to you by Kiro Price at T. Rowe price are experts go beyond the numbers to examine investment opportunities firsthand the numbers tell the story strategic investing and covers the full story for more than eighty years millions of people have trusted T. Rowe price to help us T. Rowe price invest with confidence did is it basically convinced the Irish that Northern Ireland was still part of Ireland and you can drive from Dublin to Belfast back and forth all day long national crisis in the UK in a way you you've got a crisis because there's no constitution the political architecture bunch of different camps and no one can pull together a majority so we have this massive stalemate that were basically nothing can get done hi Mr Cameron called for a referendum to leave or stay in the European Union and it's because the key issue really is Ireland and I've been saying this since the referendum vote is the keeping an eye on on Ireland because nope this is the hallmark summit podcast from Yahoo Finance joining us now Andy Serwer with just staley think believes he may have a shot at doing that so they're not letting him call election and so we're sort of stuck right now I think I'd like to start off just by asking you to explain to us Americans and international audience what the heck is going on in the UK with brexit element and the queen is just been developed over time and you've got a situation now where one they they the government under the Lacrosse across the UK and Ireland there was a Good Friday peace deal done by senator that that I know well and what that deal UK really one that's evolved over centuries and there is there is no rule book and so the actual role of the prime minister but then you also convinced the people in Northern Ireland that people in Great Britain that New Orleans is part of the UK there's no border between the UK in Northern Ireland it just what is your I mean it's so vaccine to us and yet in a way familiar so what's the state of affairs but that lack of border between Ireland and Northern Ireland is really what keeps that whole Irish island together and out of conflict saving even without a deal with the European Union that he will that he will win handily and the Labor Party which is a far left in the UK what the current prime minister wants to do is he wants to force an election because he thinks that by being strongly in favor of of all right jess great to see you welcome to the Yahoo Finance Market Summit it's great to hear Andy so an American banker in the up that is just unethical to everyone in Ireland most everybody in Northern Ireland in poses a real risk and it shouldn't go unnoticed already have been some bombs there's no real rule of governance law is that referendum applicable you know does it have staying power is it do you have to really follow the fact that the majority if you live in the UK let alone living island civil war between Northern Ireland and Ireland that went on for centuries was incredibly violent and her brexit would be easily defeated is could there be another referendum and would it be defeated the can there could be another referendum and happen if they get some resolution to the northern island issue but it's very complicated wow I didn't realize that whole new that Ireland was an issue you know it's it's interesting that it's happening with this with the political environment and parallel in the US in the US in today you have a concert population voted to leave that's an open question and then what you have is you know parliament is broken down where you've got you've got vote for what's economically in their best interest there are a lot of a lot of a motivations pushing voters around this day and immigration is an issue Karenin again because there's no rules it's not binding and ultimately it's it's sort of parliament that will decide in this whole process but I didn't understand that context that's fascinating a lot of people in the United States sort of think that they should have another referendum and on off the new IRA as they have called it this Irish issue is really critical and the deal will ultimately have an have a an exit strategy on the referendum that the European Union would accept and try drafting that so I think I question to ask that's fascinating so overall it's a negative for the bank is it or could you turn this into it says stay or leave that would be disastrous because the real issue is stay or leave but how you're going to leave and so you need to put if you pull the UK out of the European Union technically you need a hardboard between Northern Ireland and Ireland and that is something now over the long term over twenty thirty forty years we'll have been a good thing or bad thing economically to have independence away from Brussels that's that's that's so how do you think this is GonNa play out I mean where are we going here I think a stele running one of the largest financial institutions on the planet and that's probably a story in itself being an American there but in the UK and I think it's very undetermined but the real problem with the second referendum is what the referendum about to have another one all the people like the ex Prime Minister Tony Blair is working hard to try to have a second referendum I think it's fifty fifty barry very end in fact we we wrong it's it was resolved at at the end they moved the end out but we restructured the bank to deal with whatever so that on one level is I think a loss Manas bull in London's going to stay the financial capital of Europe and my view but there's been a price to be paid for it and I think maybe you just answered why to an extent because I mean if I'm an investor that level of complexity even if you go from A to B to c when the referendum vote happened the one thing we said to ourselves is because it's such a politically dangerous issue it will not be solved until the at the UK is is feeling the burden of it obviously sterling the exchange rate between the dollar and sterling is off a lot the economy clearly is growing at a slower pace so we have basically three speech three separate banks to deal with the regulatory framework that has come out of the financial crisis but we can do today for our to to to leave so what does the second referendum really give you if you can turn it down again just as complex I'm shaking my head it's deeply frustrating in the first six months of the year we had the most profitable statutory first six months that the bank has had since financial crisis we've pulled the dividend in the last two years the highest dividend rate since we had since the financial crisis in the stocks under pressure there are three reasons one there is uncertainty fine you get there it just sounds like an investor that's a tough thing to have to explain to someone is that part of the reason why the stock has been under pressure so it is interest rates interest rates in Europe are extremely low you have seventeen trillion euros worth negative interest rate sovereign debt in the UK. Dan What what what what borth saying now is parliament is ignoring illegitimate referendum by by by the British population construct its own board of directors its own see CEO and so we created that in two thousand and sixteen now than in the UK how would how would come out as you've seen even again and may locations whether it's France whether it's the United States a lot of people don't necessarily otherwise would investment is not being made in the UK that would otherwise be making and you take you take Barclays as as an example in Brexit so what we've done is we've taken we've taken a third of our British bank and we are now the largest bank in Ireland and all of our branches from Frankfurt that impacts Barclays but to a certain extent part of the responses financial crisis has been a Balkanisation of a finance forty five percent of our business is in the United States today to do that we had to create a bank subsidiary in the United States with a whole new regulatory they don't have that conviction about the European regulators nor the Bank of England European regulators felt that they would they would bleed over time their new recruit onto Madrid are now branches not bank in London but of a bank in Ireland and the capital necessary to support that bank in Ireland has moved to to to Ireland by two thousand and ten and everyone believes now that the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury is done recapitalizing recalibration risks for the banks and it was deemed by the regulators by the courts as to be bad sales practices the British banks and the last five years virtually every European Bank is trading below its book value and the third one which is sort of a little bit self inflicted and I think the regulators are coming to grips with this there's something may happen in two thousand twenty two they discount what what it means today with uncertainty and so it's basically brexit it's interest rates Asu even the risk for the bank is what happens to the UK economy obviously so if there's a recession or whatnot required us for our consumer retail bank to set up a ring fence bank it's got its own general ledger it's got to import a director data centers it's totally protected from the rest of the bank the US response was basically hit the banks all at once and the recapitalization and recalibration of risk for the US banks was basically done deregulation going on you know they may not let you make this work but the bank is a great place now as I said best earnings in in in Rosen clients around the world what we could do before all this happened I was just about to ask you just I mean Barclay's stock has been under pressure over the past several years and we've got to stop the reregulation of the banking system to let the banks recover in terms of the value in in Europe including Barclays have paid claims out to UK citizens on a on a on a interest rate basis of eight percent is a a an insurance program soul to consumers by all the UK banks in the early two thousand two thousand three four and five and the stock is undervalued. I mean you might not be a position to say that as chief executive officer but it's undervalued okay he said it random for fifteen years fifty billion pounds that's the book value equity of the British banking system that's much capital has gone to the tenure guilt is now below fifty basis points if you're a bank interest rates are basically hitting zero or or negative it puts pressure on you and that's why Ah Brexit if you're if you're an investor why by a UK stock today you wait until the uncertainty of Brexit is over the second issue four years I've been wrong every year and and and what was difficult for me is if you and I were sitting on the stage ten years ago and we said elaborations of risk called ivars nine and recapitalization over a period of time even going out to twenty twenty two you know it doesn't work that way if if if an investor when we arrived at at Barclays four years ago we were being sued by governments around the world for library perform exchange for commodities trading the bank in the UK right now the fiscal deficit as a percentage of GDP is one percent if someone is allow so if your if your economy is growing the capital raise in in the Middle East which we were being criminally prosecuted by the British government up until last year and then we had the saying in the UK called called as I have tried to anticipate what was going to happen in the global economy and particularly UK and your service in the US the last getting the money for free and so I think I think what's happening is monetary policy is running its course in terms of what it can do to stimulate economic growth has the one that perhaps has done the right thing the United States has the highest fiscal deficit as a percentage of GDP in a growing economy ever a decade. We're in a good place and and and we'll be fine I mean it sounds like you're making the argument not not overtly that and you know the banks did things wrong and we we have to repent for what we did and whatnot but we gotta get all the bad conduct in litigation issues behind us and we finally have that done now the building roads and hospitals and airplanes everything else and then you look at Germany Germany the German government can borrow ten years and get paid seventy basis points a year like one and a half percent and you can borrow at fifty basis points for fourteen years why do you have a deficit of one percents you should be buying the Bejesus we're going to have a ten year economic recovery in Europe and the US we're gonNA have the lowest unemployment rate almost ever in the US lowest ever in the UK how it's GonNa end but how's it going to end so so I'll give you sort of what I think might be an odd response it has to now be matched by more fiscal stimulus infrastructure investment etc etc so we have that deficit director who enormous respect for when when we were talking about doing this said Said Said said you're undercapitalized

UK United States Kiro Price Barclays T. Rowe T. Rowe Dan Middle East Germany Europe chief executive officer British government German government Said director
Man Cave Happy Hour  Rusty Nail And Tom Lazuka Aslyum Cigars  Episode 86

PodcastDetroit.com

42:44 min | 2 months ago

Man Cave Happy Hour Rusty Nail And Tom Lazuka Aslyum Cigars Episode 86

"We're live oh we are. We are live. Maybe who you're listening to the podcast detroit network visit. Www dot podcast. detroit dot com for more information. I said hey. Welcome to the man cave. Abc said hey. Welcome to medicaid and whiskey and smoke really finds john all right. It is time for happy hour. Is the man cave happy hour. Whiskey cigars spirits stories that go along with it. I'm jamie flanagan. i'm still mad. Fox and This is a very impromptu. You know it kind of is we were lying. I just gave a little jingle jingle ring ring. What did you do give you a little ring. A ding ding okay. That's a little cooler getting earlier. Can you do that one more time. ring hang. I was like hey man how 'bout We had up to one of our favorite haunts. Yep ambassador cigar. Being that as just after the halloween season all candy was fifty percents off. So i hope you took advantage of that We're still in our favourite haunt here at the ambassador cigar in troy michigan. So thanks for joining us. on the On the in the social so yeah so yeah so we decided Let's do a little man cave. And because i was reading an article and I was like hey do that cocktail on a man cave. And then i was thinking. Maybe we could do that tonight. Or perhaps. what's article really do remember. I was in a magazine ankle inch there. It was really weird. Well people listen to podcasts. And watch these whenever they come across something. Find him whenever wherever right but today it's november third. Today's november. I understand it's election day in the states of america. And so people have been to the polls is all about the polls and your election and hallelujah what are you think commercials are going to and yeah you know so you know it's like watching. Political commercials are in my opinion like stepping on a rusty nail. Okay wow see. I've brought that all the guys that was good. See how. I see how i operate so all right so beautiful segue but i had to ask you okay. Fairplay the number of campaign ads. You received in the mail the most all my day. Oh my god is probably about fifteen. Yeah ten fifteen somewhere there if you go. And they were big too. They were like large pieces of cardboard. Cutouts cutty isn't that yeah i actually. It was kind of because it was such a beautiful day out today on. It's going to be beautiful the rest of the week i was like i wish i had saved all the campaign mail junk mail. So i could do a bonfire. It'd be probably would've been fun to fund. Yeah digital video of burning campaign actually still have quite a few of them back. Got a reality for next next four years from now more years or more years whatever you know four more years without campaign ads until the midterms right. And then the gubernatorial. They're going to be kooky to always campaigning. Just saying so always door but yeah. Yeah i didn't get any I didn't get any door to door traveling salesman. i got one. yeah I don't know how many showed up when i usually when they come. I usually stripped down naked. Really until you get a towel. And then he's like yeah. I come on come on in the weird. He said we want a beer man in clock in the morning. is it hot in here scottish. So i didn't get any traveling door to door salesman didn't encounter them. I don't know colleen got any i. Pitied pity food and knocks on the door. Which working for long crap. But i said he's like campaign ads. It's like stepping on a rusty nail. Yeah that's that's really funny. You say that because that article that you're referring to earlier it was on a specific tree. I believe and scotch based drink. I was it was and so i was I was in an email. Whatever and i got connected to the whisky advocate. Nice okay and kid get good articles in good good information on the whisky. Whisky advocate and there was a cool recipe and it. It said essential whiskey cocktail. And i'm like oh okay. What is essential whiskey cocktail and it said the rusty nail okay so brittany risher wrote this article back in may Just finding it now. So thank you britney but it's It's a scotch based drink. And we normally i mean we do. We're open any spirits. We drink we. Just about anything it would be proper mandated whiskey. We do a lot of urban yup. But we've done a fair amount of vodka. Yes we like our jin brothers. Do i was Messaging atom earlier today driven ghuchan. Yes he was doing. A photo shoot and i was like looking good man keep jim carey and so yeah and so it was like in high dam. But we we haven't really scotch and scotch as we did whiskey in the winter ryan we we. We did. The obama did obama and deliver into some scotch at the nato. That's the perfect time to stumble into. We were drinking like heavy at the whisky in the winter. And then they have the scotch but we didn't we have i think that's about one of the only time we ever really played with scotch on the man. I don't i think you're not wrong I but i want to do some more scotches and talk about some scotches and a whole nother world. That's a whole nother. It's a whole different pallet really. Yeah 'cause it's it's very different from you. Know you're mature bourbons and whiskeys and what have you. it's it's even more of a mature palate that you need to have ryan scotch side scotch. I get in trouble when i do. Scott doesn't tequila. Makes my pants fall. Scholarships gives me a guy just gives me trouble treasury song. That's wanna see my pants. Were you a politician. That's a throwback a little bit all right so here's here's britney's article from The the whisky advocate talking about the origins of The rusty nail this based drink may not sound appealing right. 'cause scotch has got a very demanding a very profound profile robust very very profound very robust appropriately. Some serious tastes going on. And you know why would you use something. That's that robust. Right as a base for a mixed drink. I get very for me. Okay going yeah. No and so. That's the question for you. What for a scotch. I always think of you know very leathery. Feel when i really feel out of it but pd also comes to mind a little bit. Drink scotch now. It can be very pete heat intensified so so yeah so it may not be the most appealing drape. The rusty nail is an approachable drink. Even for those who tend to shy away from using scotch as a base for cocktails so which a mix it with dram boot which is gaelic is derived from gaelic johm gaelic meaning the drink that satisfies. I did not know that. Actually when he said we were doing that kind of do a little liquid a little history lesson here myself so so all right so you got the scotch base but you have the the sweet honey and heather of dram buoy and it teams at robust flavor of blend scotch and it creates a slightly sweet herbal cocktail. That finishes with just a hint of pete and smoke. And that's according to and this is like small world crap here right right. This is a britney's quoting A bartender from the red phone booth in atlanta. Leo de rivera. And i believe we talked leo when we were doing our tuesday. Whiskey dili's so my gosh. I think i think we we talked to. We talked to the cast from the red phone booth. I'm ninety nine percent. Sure we talked to. Leo was one of the bartenders. We talked to so he was quoted in this article. I'm like all right. We gotta do this. We gotta do this drink now. So the cocktails exact origins are a bit cloudy. Although it certain it certainly didn't exist before the debut of tramp buea scotch base occurs flavored with honey and spices and herbs were found around the turn of the twentieth century most historians point to the british fair in nineteen thirty seven for the debut the debut of the combination of scotch whisky and dram buoy head bartender at the columbia room quoted the cocktail which was dubbed the bi f contained bidders. At the time and tom but new incarnations of the rusty nail do not include bidders act so some tribute the rest of the nail to a recipe of bartenders from the twenty one club in new york. Yes they Similarly in a similarly proportioned cocktail called the bnb it was a split between cognac and benedictine liqueur. Yes but it's uncertain. If that was true origins of the rusty nail but by the mid twentieth century in the early one thousand nine hundred sixty s it was endorsed by gina. Mackinnon the chairwoman of the dram- buoy liquor company so in nineteen sixty seven. The recipe appeared in old. Mister boston deluxe official bartender guide right so back in nineteen sixty seven and appeared in the bartender's guide so called that called for equal parts. Scotch and dram buoy. Today's version tends to be a little drier. na little drier with drink so simple you can adjust the ratios until you find the combination you like. And so that's the thing and our one of our favorite bartenders tara. She says that rate she. She plays with recipes. Which is making us Manhattan yes and old fashioned however adding those bidders and she says she she goes a heavier on the bidders. I found that. I've been doing that at home. And i i found it to be a richer. Drink that way and so play with the combination since so the rest of the nail. Yeah so used to be a fifty fifty split right Common recipes. Now call for a slightly different mixture. So picking your whiskey. They suggests a blended scotch like like a doers. Right right. you don't wanna you don't wanna go to crazy and have too expensive of a scotch right. Because you're mixing right so but doerr. So doers is usually pretty good or compass box. Great king street gas low blend. That was good too. So actually i was looking at this This article from liquor dot com by dale de graaf and he actually said that lore has it that the rat pack was emam erred of with the strengthen themselves with the rusty nails the rationale. Yeah yeah see that. Yes you know frank and the which was probably it was. They were responsible for the white appeal in those years in the nineteen seventies mixed rusty nail at joints that he worked at a new york Pj clark's which was actually a favourite haunt late night haunt frank sinatra carts. So yeah. that's my favorite meam. Is you might be cool. But you'll never be frank sinatra stepping out of alec after with a glass with aeko. I'll never. I'll never never never do that. but So the rusty nail recipe nowadays is calling for two ounces of blended scotch whisky Three quarter of an ounce of dram buoy and garnish with a limo. Twists is just that simple innocent. It's just simple. they're suggesting. Add the ingredients and mixing glass and then the ice but add the ingredients. I give it a little stir then at the ice shield plus so about fifteen to twenty revolutions fifteen to know. Stir it stirs. There's no there's no disturb so that's a lot of revolution so strain it over. Fresh is in a class. So here's the thing you should have your glass. The physical five ultimate glass as possible right right so a lot of times bartenders will will will fill a glass with ice and and fill it with water and let it sit while they're doing their mix then they'll dump that put fresh ice in an strain the cocktail in so Like i said we're here. So that's that's that's their traditional. There's a there's a. There's a lot of other little things you can adjust the recipe you could add bidders a lot of different ways of doing it and playing with it. So what would a post a link to the whisky advocate article on that and thanks brittany for making us of that so easily. And we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna call alison over here. We're here at the ambassador. We have a mixologist on hand to mix us up. She sounded really excited about the early excited. Yes she wants to do. What kind of what me again. Actually she has been on the show we did. We did make her Poor something else. I i believe so. We'll we'll We'll scare alison will drag her over here and ask her to to pour us a she catches a break in the action shirt. And we're going to bet when we're done with that we we got even more. We got a surprise cigars comment right and we have a big surprise about. It's i'm just going to say it's an asylum from the asylum brand guards. And sean sean. I'm we're going to do a cocktail We're going to mix it up. It's going to be a scotch based cocktail. What would you suggest. And he said he goes. We got one it special. It's from asylum is a special devil's night release and again interest said. We're here third in november. So it was a special devil's night release. It came out. He said that this will pair well with that. But we have an extra special surprise about the asylum cigars. Yeah that was a surprise for me this evening too. So that's a big surprise coming up you want over and ask. Allison if she's gonna look break in the action she could bring us a couple rusty now. I'm happy i'm happy to see. I'm curious which she's gonna come up with. I just had a fun experience over at the bar. Yeah disney yes. The question was if you let if you do if she she wanted. She was trying to negotiate. Something out of me and i didn't. I didn't negotiate very well. I'll fair-play on doesn't involve answering the door in a towel. Hopefully so she said she was gonna come on over when she got done with that. Okay teach is she is she. I'm hoping so. We may have to go. Like i said i'm not a very good negotiators. Oh she's not coming. Maybe i don't know oh it's still up in the air okay. Because that's the whole beauty. We'll get a cocktail regard cocktails. Yes we're gonna get rusty nails work. I wanna i wanna come over here and mix it here. I get that i get them. But some of us aren't as some of us have great faces for and it's what i want. It's it's all about jamie. isn't it. schyster screaming son. We had to sit here and make a spectacle until she decides to come over sean. We'll be totally down for it. Sean let us get away with crap. His bar. I don't understand i would have on us out months ago. You wanna do what my plays so the man cave. Happy hour reshape people hanging out. Yeah and doing that if you if you haven't done so it is an audio podcast you can subscribe to The audio version of it. If you're listening to the audio version in just listening if you haven't subscribed subscribe if you are subscribed you say hi to raven we love your ranges rate in pompton and said hi. So is it. okay there. There's brave i raven. Thanks in saying boys. A i like. I like company. Spelled boys is e. I got my my political shirt on you. Do rage against the machine it on my grabbing with american flag on them like. Oh don't be a total applied and then i have my monkey of happy hour shirt and i'm like nah you don't wanna she coming. Let's say i buy my back is today. come over here. Whatever buddy. I'm a bartender and certified tobacconist here at ambassador cigars and spirits in troy so the the All we're gonna glenmorangie yesterday. And i really liked it. Yes flavors so i feel will pair well with our triumphs. We did do scotch with. Yes yes we did we did and glenn veggie with cameron. Mr cameron george the national brand rap and we were able to sit with cameron. So he'll be super excited glenmorangie. So how do you so what. What's your mixture on the Rushing out today. I'm going to do an ounce and a half of glenmorangie ounce and a half. Glenn meringgi that that's the proper. Say oh do i yeah. Yeah and then. I'm going to do. Three fourths of an ounce of drab. Believe which again is gaelic for. What did i say. Spirit that satisfies something wonderfully satisfying she. You did deport him into a mixer neat that i'm going to have my eyes. I see your friends. I prefer a little bit more given a nice stern. And that is a rusty nail cocktail wonderful. So we will. We're looking for a pair of those and you don't have to do it again. You know if you want my thank you alison. You're the bestest. Sad was that was worth the price of admission. Right there all right. That was great so she did. She did the mix was a little smaller so it was announced in three quarter for the opening and then the three quarter for the for the second hand she got nervous and left without her the jigger so i had a nickel for every time someone left their jigger all right. So i'm sticking i'm gonna wait. Are you going to wait and Yeah wait till you get yours. I don't know if you wanna jump up there and she'll probably bring it she's awesome so so yeah the Let me mentioned political. Israeli election results around and people are starting to file a look at Ramo is that casts name ramo. They have an entertainment here at the Ambassador right he plays like this crazy. Forty string guitar. Yes she invented. It himself is nuts so he he plays every every. No you could possibly imagine thank you. Here's i just amazing guitarist back there it is. It's a it's a very unique as forty strings. But it's it's it's a like a crazy twelve or eighteen. String some kind of crazy then he can play bass notes and but it's some live entertainment. He plays a few of the cigar bars around here at least the first one now. He's here amassador One night a week. And i believe is that the godfather as well as well as author to plays much as seoul. This is It looks pretty. He's got his scotch looked to got. Got this kaci locally a little bit. Cloudy as you had mentioned earlier now. Sweet on the nose to the draft. That's coming down because that honey and the herbs that you're getting out of that of the lot of sweet sweet on the nose met you if you mix anything that you you'd better than mix it with something that's sweet you're going to get a good Concoction you're gonna get a good mix between the two. I think yeah right down the middle all right so the people are joining us. Wayne checking in. What's up buddy raven We are at cigar bar. Yes it's the ambassador. Cigar in troy michigan and We'll cheers rather sweet sweet appear finish. Wow i have never had a rusty nail before. No i could see see franken. dino would be Digging on this right. Yeah yeah. I can see why they wanna sit down and just they were injured with us. Oh my gosh that's great. I need who there's smoke. There's some post Some post smoke flavor in there as well after the second. Second zip yeah. It's you start to get more that the sweetness starts to go away and then as brushing it on your palette you starting to get that scotch feel is like a candy scotch. Yeah just russ. I still feel sweet but as it all right like biting your phase me. It's just slain in the back of your food. I remember when we're doing glenmorangie. That was like the twelve year blended. I think is what that looked like. It looked like a. Yeah so cameron. Mr cameron george afa. Yes see this one point in time you know reach back out to us it love to have you quebec into the man cave as well. Yes just kennedy way little virtual social because he's been doing a lot of parents between food and right so london talk him up a little bit about that. That is so get ready. So we were like i mentioned. I had I had mentioned to sean. I'm like we're going to do a scotch base drink. I want a cigar. And he said you gotta try and asylum are devil devil's giant one. Can you strip that box craft box there. It is smoke the night away the devil's night asylum and kind of Kind of interestingly quiz identify enough that a the owner of asylum. Mr tom luke. Tom luca is here tonight. We did not know that sin. We did not know. And maybe but shaw. John's been enamored with these guards has a. He's been talking them up on the socials since since the release and he's always a big advocate for the asylum cigars so we were going to have tom luca pop over. Yeah it tell us why the devil's night in asylum cigar what what is. What is this blend. Why is going to pair with a rusty nail. Educate us so yeah. We're so we're gonna get tom luca. Now this yeah shawna. Tom's gonna matt's grabbing tom to bring him over to join the conversation. We just hope we're not blasted out by the guitar. Thank you sean. Bring missile mizuko. What we only have three. Mike's wanna pop in here to like. I said we sat down. And said you know sean. We're having a we're having a scotch pays cocktail. What would you suggest to go along with the scotch bay. So we're doing a rusty nail which is scotch and dram buoy and. He said he goes. Oh he goes. We just got this new one from asylum. Devil's night in. His devils is the devil's night cigar. And i'm like all right. We'll do that and he goes because the owner backyards to tom hookah. thanks for being in the So top tell me about childhood born and raised in detroit area. Oakland in oakland hospital in dearborn michigan grew up went to Allen park high school in allen. Park and Wayne state university Can tartar carter. But i'm you're in the pizza. Business had a few jets pizzas and got out of that business After about eight years and Somehow found my way into the business. The how long ago was that then. That was two thousand one. Wow so you've been doing this for for a hot second twenty years of your life. Now cigars are my life. So i was fortunate we started with khalib brings but a couple of years with khalid Met the people camacho Got hired by them Work with christian or basically till he sold the company he sold in two thousand eight to off. So i went and work with davidoff and joe for you You'll two thousand twelve right and then two thousand twelve me incursion started this company together a little over eight years now all right. It's law so committed the devil's night cigar to go with this. Is there a particular place where you get most of your tobaccos or do you go. All over the place Well rappers will get in different places. Yeah you know depending on the brand because we have asylum but we also have the in the aurora brands. I would hills so christmas family in the sale to davidoff they can. They did not sell the farms. So we have a seven hundred farben hunters where we grow most of our Authentic corallo tobacco. Which is kind of the base of everything we do out of under smiles Factory we parted with nicaragua. And that's the league. That does a lot of the asylum. Snuff so i was wondering if you had many or any ties nicaragua. Because they're having a rough week. They're having a rough day are you are. There's some nasty storms whipping through this week. Yeah any news. No just some rain right now. Okay let's say and that's the biggest concern there. Yeah really Were like danley under our factories and farms are very close to each other. A couple hour ride yet The problem they have is the mountains usually protect protector in mountain valleys so the way is usually not the issue. The problem is the mountain spots the storm to move very slowly okay. So it's it's the ring so they're expecting almost three feet of rain. I believe thrown five inches in the next two days. She that's not. that's not a thing. Yeah i heard that it was trouble for like coffee. Copy region to yeah and people at starbucks lose their damn minds. yeah and So i was worried. Obviously concern for the people in the biggest concern. Is that the flooding ryan. Okay so all right so our fingers crossed for you for you in the folks snack. Thank you and That it goes quiet quietly. So the devil's what can you tell us about this. This blend in the rapper and and y y it might pair well with a scotch based drink the cigar itself this project. Five years ago And we did something with the fire department. We donated proceeds to the local fire departments in detroit So we had a number of these cigars leftover so we decided to bring it back this year. We didn't do the fire department team this year. We just brought back the blend we had a number of these left so off in two thousand fifteen these were you know. Three or h so these cigars have additional. Five years on the blah really really smooth. So this yard is basically One hundred percent honduran tobacco. It's an authentic korea. Rapper with hundred miners filler. So it definitely has some body. The nice part is smoking these They kept the body so they're still medium to full body but they're very very smooth the way through so you get some earthy nece definitely feel it through the retro. Hail you'll get more of the spice through the retro. Hal suga so i think it's a scenario that i can pair very well with either rich richer things because the earth and depending on how you smoke your cigar through your nose or through your stable at. Yeah yeah know. I think you can pretty much fit everything. Because it's not overpowering share too much spice since we started doing a man cave. We're almost three years into this. Yeah i always been a medium to light cigar type of guy but as we've been doing this i'm kind of con- finding myself folks more on the far more bold the boulder cigars are out though. Because that's just you know your palate developing in itself. so where did your palate lie. When it comes to a cigar i tend to be in the medium to full bodied. You did you work up to that or is this just always been that way. I'm pretty much. I mean i can't say right when i first started. Yeah you know. I didn't even know what i was doing. A wonder okay now trails all of us but over time. I've really been fortunate enough Y you know with christian as my mentor in the industry and it's You know his family has one hundred and five hundred six years now in tobacco from cuba and that his dad moved to honduras in nineteen. Sixty two nice I've been very fortunate when i started with camacho to be invited to go to the farms in the factories I've been there one hundred times over the last twenty years my goodness and Really got to learn about the processes and everything and What i find now though is as i'm working on blends with christian and we're coming up with new projects and things. I inhale my cigars lot. Dear really yes way more than i should but i tend because i i think when you really inhale a cigar you can tell if it's been h proper because the ammonia in the nicotine's are out of it. I've been proper have not heard that. I've never heard that inhaling cigar you can actually taste that but when you're getting more than tastes like a cigar that's underage. You'll definitely taste the ammonia if it's under eight smelling but when i'm looking for is that nicotine kind of hit because companies under ferment. These days for many different way because they're going for this body which there's definitely a market for it right. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just they're trying to get that strength right right and sometimes the only way to do that is to fermented less okay so have more ammonia nicotine in it so i tend to kind of smoke my cigars the big h stuff that we have as. I'm always just kind of really want to get a feel for the the the tobacco gotcha fermented or because it's not. You're not getting ugly. You know so. It's but You know so. Probably inhale way too much. So i can pretty much know like editing medium. Full-body okay doesn't Doesn't hit me too strong enough. That what is this a seasonal availability on these is it to exclusive to ambassador here And then we did had a place called the tinderbox in dublin ohio okay so we just did two stores. We did events last week. One on thursday night one on friday night in dublin. Nice and so these are the only two stores in the country that you can get it from so you can I don't know basler's website. So i you could just walk but if you look it up. Passenger cigars dot com. I believe it is or just called. Embassador troy michigan area dance. They'll show them out to you. Yeah because you guys did a little intro On on friday night. I was watching the video live. That was fun so yeah. That was a that was pretty awesome. We wanna cut these up in smoke them and try them with us. I wanna flag downer. Gone lighters we need to cutter. Ra matt's off to get the cli brands and asylum Where where's the availability on. Those is a nationwide worldwide world. Learn about thirty five countries holies with the brands now obviously every country. It's a little different. Carry everything right But that european in the world market is really expanded for us over the last few years now. Is there a proper for what. Would you recommend the cadre punch on the you know that that's really preference. I personally just use my fingernail really so up after many years of expertise. I'm just too lazy to carry the pocket. So that's about it. S just use my fingernail. Yeah it's quite it's quite the punchy gago fingernail nice see i. I'm still new school. So i'll still do a counter punch at lunch. Works fine and really preference right. A lot of folks get you know they talk about the be cut or they'll do these x. Do the be cut twice. Yeah i'll tell you that gives you when you cut it. You get almost too much air through you know. I'd just enough to give you a little pole little resistance. Okay not where you're working on it but just a little resistant. So if a cigar rolled properly and much properly it should always give you a little resistance. Okay see back in the day. You could make a joke about a little resistant speaking. We could have a lot of resistance by morning. I hate the politically correct world. Because i just wanna make sexist. Nasty jokes believe it at that. And by saying that. I made a sexist nazi job. I'm very excited to this. I'm not going to inhale them. No so our friend wayne is watching the call. You edward scissorhands because you can win your vegas on because okay edwardson quite. This is soft Wow young the first time you have is something that we learn. The code number of times was when you first start smoking a cigar. You're really not going to get the rule flavor of it until you're maybe the way in to that cigar and that's when you start to really hear the get those those flavor notes and that the tasting at so think that's where against smoking retro handling through your nose really makes a difference because on your mouth on your pilot you're only going to get five flavors salty sweet bitter and i forget all five but as me like five but the membranes in your nose. It's almost like wine right right. When you're when you're drinking wine you start off. You're smelling it right you you smell it smell it. What's it doing is the membranes and your nose are basically catching more than flavors right. Because you hear you hear these things like well. Yeah yeah there. Nobody really not a horse. Leather dirt up more relating to a spell right. Yeah it was very similar to why where you do one to Retro hail blow through your nose not every time same thing get the beginning halfway through and maybe toward the end to see the changes of the cigar see how how it changes because how you roll the cigar can be different You know if you put the tips of the leaves at the foot. The tips are the strongest part of the league's right. So you'll tend to get a little more strength than than mellows out or if you do it the other way to kind of built into straightness you smoking. It's great if you have the tips at the head so depending on how the cigars bunched together that also affects san and we'll you really find Will you will have to get you as one of the regular asylum. Carlos which that's three year aged curl so it's a similar blend of this cigar just as long just not. Hi the filler. Certain little bit different parts of the plant but all monroe But what you'll see what that is with grow. You'll tend to three or h it'll be a little more throat. Hit you kinda in the back of the throat at the beginning and then smooth out where when you smoke the cigar. There's no throaty nece to whatsoever at that age all the ammonia nicotine the heavy nicotine's of came out of it. And so now you're just really getting the tobacco the smoothness of it get some earthy nece and if you retro through your nose. You'll you'll definitely picked up some of that spice from the cigar is pretty and it's a with these with the scotch and the The mixed drink the rest of the nail itself so sweet drink his adding a is bringing out on this guy but it's making a sweet smoke albion. There's definitely the hunter. Tobacco has a natural sweet aftertaste. Money so i think you'll definitely kind of complimented but not over. It's not an overly sweetness madero or something real rich so addictive balance like i said when you get a scotch and it has some penis do it doesn't exasperate than you know the penis it really kind of brings it keeps up words out instead of taking it over the top. This is a gorgeous cigar. Thank you really really. is i really enjoy. i'm. I'm only not even a quarter way. And i just. I'm already enjoying this. I always been a medium type body. Dusk are but you know moving into the four full body. The i can see what. I've been missing now. All honesty like this is going to be very smooth at the beginning of blow pickup. Somebody as you smoke. But it's not gonna ever overpower it's not gonna make you. You would feel feel turn green from it you know. But you're gonna definitely get body from star. Bob wasn't oh how this would go after a round of golf. Cross a fantastic during around. Yeah bob is actually doing Going for the senior. Pga yeah he played and then now was out of the game for a long time working pro and then said back to the tour like get himself in shape might need some lessons. Bob and i'm heading a zone in the morning. I've got scheduled in arizona. Scottsdale phoenix area. But i am bringing the clubs. I got we got a couple of rounds out so literally can talk cigars absolutely. Gets you guys connected on the face tom. We appreciate you hanging out. We love to do another night in pick a night van dam. You know anytime guys be said here within the pleasure. Thank you so much for making it very much. Thank you so so you think things happen for a reason. Why jamie and kind of serendipitous that Mister luca just happened to be here. Yeah he's local. Yeah he's a local guy and this is kind of his own when he's around so Always good to have guests at the man cave. it is absolutely even more a lesson. We'll connect them. So that's it man that's Make happy hour hear from ambassador cigar. Please thanks for joining us. Like subscribe common good stuff. We appreciate everybody being there. Hey you know what guys. Thanks for being here appreciate it. Dot com cheers.

three quarter britney detroit jamie flanagan brittany risher tom luca ryan scotch alison Leo de rivera frank sinatra sean dale de graaf Pj clark michigan two ounces Three quarter sean sean cameron troy schyster
Episode 10: The Titan

Blockbuster

49:07 min | 5 months ago

Episode 10: The Titan

"Even, if you Dayton, Ohio meet you have to hire him you both got the job previously on blockbuster. Hey. You're on. That's. Help. came. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody drug the soup. Everyone's fine we're gonNA get slammed by press for this gym. Is Jamie I have something you might like, but you need me in a good mood. Not Not a good time. Lille, Hey, Jen, just say I'm the king of the world. But. Why would I yell that it sounds on that but you got to sell it. These are some shots we'd like you to cut from the shootings can't you think it's going to ball I dunno Jerem I'M NOT GONNA lose my job or this keeps up I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. Excuse me Jim we're on pace for two hundred, million dollars on this. I've already made cuts here Bill Jim. If you WANNA cut my film you'll have to fire me too and if you're GonNa try to fire me, you're GonNa have to kill me. Jim Come on. Nothing to talk about bill if you're such an expert, you can finish the movie yourself. Hey Bill. I understand your position here. I want this. So. Here's what I'll do. I met shredder and blockbuster starts now. Scheduling. Spring Nineteen ninety-seven. Los Angeles Titanic is now on pace to top two hundred and thirty million dollars and executives were panicked filming wasn't yet finished and special effects shots were starting to come in. James had just stepped into an Edit Bay for a few hours of work with his two CO editors, Conrad, buff, and Richard Harris. Why did I do? Richard Spun around in his chair. Jim Come on in. Hey how's it going, Richard. Alan, good. Good. James looked weathered anxious wound up and worn down Conrad. You step out from and we got it all laid out. James tried to relax finally able to seal off the pressure and criticism of the outside world in this dark sound prophetic where he could focus on the creative. His cell phone didn't work well in here. So the vortex of gossip and studio pressure couldn't reach him. I Jim. It was James Other editor Conrad buff come in close that door. Okay. No No, you don't WanNA coffee. No. Thank you please. They had assembled the whole film for pacing using storyboards images for the last few scenes. James. Still shooting as a joke to himself to editors, James had taped a razor blade to one of the monitors with a sticky note the said us in case film sucks. The biggest immediate concern was the movie was nearing four hours long which worried Fox and paramount. Where else we can cut this to get into three hours. What about all the little historical bits? Do we need to show those? Well that's an idea. Yeah. Narrowly part of the main story I mean it's great, but if we have to cut that. Yeah. What will that do to our runtime? Let me look. Around. Three hours, fourteen minutes. So you get the final scenes put in We'll call it two hours in seventy four minutes. No but I can convince them. And then it'll look better on the one sheets for the theaters. Okay. And for. As simple as it was, the trick worked many theaters that might never accept a movie over three hours would with titanic James was banking it wouldn't matter after opening weekend. The movie would already be out and hopefully by then he'd have proven them. All wrong. This is the season finale of blockbuster. The story of James Cameron. Hey match raider here for simply safe. Here's the thing about home security companies, most trap you with high prices and tricky contracts and bad customer support. So while there are a lot of options out there for home security, there's only one no-brainer and that simply safe it's a top rated experience and they've got everything you need to protect your home with none of the drawbacks of traditional home security. It has an arsenal of sensors and cameras to blanket every room window and door, and it's tailored specifically for your home. You just peel and stick the sensors. Exactly, where you want them no technician is required and it starts at fifteen bucks a month and I'm not the only one that thinks simplisafe is great us news and World Report named it the best overall home security of twenty twenty. We're glad simply safe is supporting this show and you can try today at simplisafe dot com slash blockbuster. So they know that we sent you you get free shipping and a sixty day risk-free trial. So there's nothing to lose. That's simplisafe dot com slash blockbuster simplisafe dot com slash blockbuster. Now let's get back to the show. Steady. Or everyone hold still for the water to settle. Long Beach California. James and hundreds of background actors and crew were filming some of the final scenes of titanic at a mid century style Olympic swim. Stadium. This building had windows with a view of the Pacific Ocean but they were covered up today to control the lighting. Kate. was floating on a wooden door and Leo is in the water next her. James's in the water with a wet suit and giving feedback on each take. Cut? Okay. That's good. That's good The water is actually below freezing. So rose and Jack are starting to feel the terror of this moment. Okay. So she's just realizing people are starting to freeze to death. So she thinks these could be her last breaths to and her last words to Jack. You know just the him just Jeff. And Jack, you're you're trying to fight the freezing water, but you already know you're not gonNA make it right. This is our last conversation. You know that yeah rose not you've got it. Okay. And Roll Camera. Rolling. Thirty seven four. And Action. It's getting quiet. It'll take them a wanted to give the boats organized. I don't know about you but. I tend to write a strongly worded letter to the White Star line about all of this. Know. No Don't say you could buys rose. Don't cooled. You're getting. You're going to go on and you're. GonNa make babies. Grow. And you're GonNa die an old. Lady? Warm in her. Not. Here. Not This. You understand me I can't feel my body. What is that? was. The best thing that ever happened. And brought me to you. Thankful. I'm thankful. Cut. Wow. Wow isn't that better. It was magnificent. You're. You're going to make everyone cry there is. That's the one. Great Work Today everyone. Take Leo Incredible Work Today. Really, level. He pulled himself out of the water. James was finally feeling the emotion of film coming through and he knew had captured something special despite the world of pressure and ridicule around him and his cast and crew Jim I have Jimmy. For you shirt. Let me just try my hands. Jimmy hennings phone. Now you're. Jamie how's it going? I'm just wondering if you're. Not sure. I'll ever be good mood for the rest of my life after this film but Great Day of Filming. So let's say yes good mood. Screening I hope it stays that way. Ask don't change a thing. I want you to come here. Something can you send it over? Why shouldn't made about this one in particular? All right. What's a four? Now I can be there an say around six. CNN. Hey. Good to see you. Can I get you anything? No no I'm good. I've been wondering what you're about to spring on me. Well Think of it this way Oh great. No, no, no nothing bad. It's just. What's the one thing you said you didn't want for the movie I don't remember a song. A song. Oh you shit. Just give it a chance. It's for the end credits only using all the same themes from the movie. You know the piano music from the scene where Jack Sketching rose. Yeah. Well, that's actually this same song on the piano. Okay. Now this will fit perfectly at the end. Jamie was so convinced James with love the song that he'd written much of the film's music around the same tune. And held a top secret recording session with a pop megastar. and. It's celine dion singing. Selene Dion, how did you get well? It was a meeting speech he wanted to record a demo so. Just sort of happened. It seemed like a long intro for a song. And she's big right. Yes, she's very well known as the chorus kicked in James. Suddenly realize Jamie was a genius. knocked. That voice. Beauty. Ma. Had created one of the most iconic film songs of all time and just as he predicted his director. Loved it. And James successfully convinced the Fox executives as well. Titanic had founded musical heartbeat. I everybody Mash Raider here we know ad breaks like these sometimes get in the way of storytelling. Okay. They almost always do if we're up to me, we'd never have any. But with this season to in our partnership with cadence thirteen, we've been able to really elevate our storytelling into reviews and attention from bigger and bigger media. It all helps us chase the dream of being able to sustain our show, which is significantly more expensive to produce than most podcasts because of all the production elements. So we ask one thing of. You to help that and it helps us get the most for those couple of pesky AD breaks. In each episode, all you have to do is answer a few questions to let us know about your other interests that helps cadence thirteen, how to market the show, and you enter to win a hundred dollar Amazon Gift Card as well. Go to listener q dot Com slash blockbuster that's listener than the letter q dot Com slash blockbuster answer those few questions and get entered to win one hundred bucks listener q dot Com, slash blockbuster. October. Nineteen ninety-seven. James, finally had finished cuts of the film and the first press screen was set for the Tokyo. Film. Festival, the response. Mixed this expensive high profile production filled with problems and delays had tainted many reviewers first impressions. They found it hard to take this action movie director seriously in a dramatic film about real events. Executives of paramount and Twentieth Century Fox grit their teeth. They began to sell off pieces of the film sets a strap to recoup some of their investment. Titanic had been ill advised from the beginning and now with three hours fourteen minute runtime that had theaters spooked. They could see trouble ahead. Sunday night December fourteenth five days before its public release titanic was having its big celebrity premiere at the same theatre had shown star wars and changed the course of James Life the Chinese theater on Hollywood Boulevard. In exactly twenty years, James had transformed from college dropout driving trucks to Director of the biggest movie of all time even in the face of possible doom James felt a certain poetry being here again. Despite an extra views from press. This was the hottest ticket in town Arnold was here very. Good movie so is Bill Paxton Semester Stallone Ray, Liotta. and. Leonardo. Di Caprio with the titanic. Marketing. Budgets kicking in now one of the fastest rising stars in Hollywood. Asked me. Leonardo, what's it like starring in two hundred, million dollar moving oh, it's the single most incredible movie experience of my life. So far so far made a man at it. I'll tell you. Dang Dang. It was one star after another on the red carpet, a swarm of reporters and cameras all battling for position. Celine dion stepped out onto the carpet her song my heart will go on had just begun playing on the radio and she walked over to the cameras. Reporters were asking everyone about weather titanic could possibly live up to the hype. Wonderful Song. Oh how are you? Do you think the movie will get any Oscar nomination you know. I am very superstitious. So talk about the future, but definitely, I know that this movie. The Wonderful Life. Eight will have been life at these them. Thank you Salina. Grant. Jays. Director James Cameron how are you feeling tonight very good. Very good. Big night for us. Do you feel all the attention has helped or hurt the film Yeah it's it's not been. Great for us. I'll be honest that. Means we we gotta prove them all wrong. The film is three hours long. What do you say to the people who are not? GonNa, go see it. Oh well. I guess we'll see tonight. James had reason to be nervous as the marathon film ended. He hoped his friends and peers would applaud at the end and cringed when it didn't come right away. It was a relief for James But he knew people always applauded at premiers. Titanic's real test would be the ticket sales when the film opened on Friday night in twenty, seven, hundred theaters across the nation. Earlier that year Jurassic Park, the lost world had opened to seventy two million dollars at the box office followed by men in black, which made fifty, one, million on opening weekend titanic would fall well short of those only a fraction of their success twenty, eight million dollars barely edging out the James Bond Film Tomorrow Never Dies at the box office newspapers began to snark James Big budget film news an epic letdown, and they'll most reviewers seemed like it. It was the scathing ones that stood out. On the terrace carrots existence and this kind of movie. Not only is it not? It's not even close. Titanic is dead in the water. Kasha. Pastor titanic at three hours and ten minutes is a crashing bore for glove glove. Herself is one of the most tragic romantic. History. The last thing she deserves to be plundered by the likes to James. Cameron. In Hollywood the opening weekend box office is hugely important because it predicts the overall success of a film. Generally, studio films will earn about three times whatever they make on opening weekend in the case of titanic that was just ninety million dollars and much of that money would go to the movie theaters themselves. Like the Titanic James Movie was a symbol of arrogance something too big too ambitious. Only they end up sinking those on board. James Responsible for a humiliating defeat for two storied American Film Studios. Paramount was on the hook for one hundred, million dollars and Fox for one, hundred, seventy, five, million. Not Making back this money meant fewer chances for filmmakers in the future and dropping stock prices and possible layoffs. James, wanted to crawl into a hole and never come out fearing he just undone his entire career. Depression sanctioned. His marriage to Linda Hamilton was straining under all this collective stress. His old friend, Bill Wisher took note. Below. Listen, man. Let's get out to the desert days. Get Away camp out with the guys a few nights. It'll do you good. We'll bring out the bikes and the paintball guns to. Does some fun. Tomorrow, night. All right. Yeah. Okay. Perfect man. Hey. Thanks Bill. Of course. season. Joshua Tree National Park. A small caravan of pickup trucks loaded with dirt bikes had set up camp for the night as Crimson Red. Sun was beginning to tucked behind the horizons rounded Rocky Ridge. Onions at burs. Hey you got another secure. How grab another Bill Randy and James Brothers John David and Michael Cameron at set up chairs around a campfire. It was already raging as the sky and stars above began to turn the dusty California desert dark bloop. Here you go Jim. Thanks. Fargo gone fast you WANNA skewer. NYAGA here. They were all huddled around the fire which lent a cozy and comforting intimacy in the wide open desert. James always found it difficult to unplugged displace where he'd come with Gail before worked wonders. I don't know I made a two hundred million dollar chick flick where everybody dies. What the fuck was I thinking I just totally fucked myself. No. You made a really good movie. Yeah but it's going to take you know it's GonNa be a disaster. It's going to be like a Cleopatra in the movie that broke a studio. Cleopatra starring Elizabeth Taylor was synonymous with financial disaster. It's massive cost Doom Twentieth Century Fox which had to sell off parts of its own studio to avoid going bankrupt. Just. Invoking the name Cleopatra was bad Juju in Hollywood even decades later. So all pass Jim. Going to be fine movies incredible and it's going to age like a fine wine. Not If people remember it as a dud. I'm going to have to reinvent myself all over again. James. Cameron had given up everything. He built as an action movie director for this a chance to make his masterpiece. A chance to prove himself as a serious director to vindicate his decision to turn. His back on the scientists a real career to follow his passion for. Writing. Stories. To make his father proud. Now. He was confronting devastating public failure and the reality that his career had pete. And his best days. Were behind him. We're here for you buddy. All. That anxiety out of the paintball park tomorrow. Thanks guys. Thanks for coming out here and then setting this up. To everyone's surprise, titanic defied all projections. While other films tapered off after two or three weeks titanic held strong at number one for two weeks three weeks a month two months two and a half months, and then three months at number one. On. March fourteenth one week before the Academy Awards. Titanic Broke Star Wars all time box office record. The biggest movie of all time would earn over one point two, billion dollars. The film would earn fourteen Oscar nominations, and for the first time in his life James was nominated not only for best film but for best, Director Live from Los Angeles California the seventieth anniversary. Award. March. Twenty Third Nineteen Ninety Eight Shrine Auditorium in downtown Los Angeles across the street from the campus of USC where James had visited. So many times to study film technology. James had taken a seat surrounded by Jamie Horner, his producers and all his department heads in his orbit and the stage open to reveal host billy crystal on a set piece resembling the bow of the titanic. It was clear from the very start. James movie would be the star of this show. Nine us. Crystal had a short song for each nominated film. Titanic I. In back and you'll Garrett entail giant ship that started many years ago over this. James. Chuckled. Along the see. Who Made Accountants? To studios teamed up to pay for a three hour like everybody three. Throughout the rest of the night, a different presenter would use each of the best picture nominees titanic seemed the favourite and James was getting nervous and as the music played James Old Friend Arnold Schwarzenegger made his way to the Podium Ladies and Gentlemen Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold. My friend, the Director of Titanic James Cameron and I made three movies together the Terminator Terminator Two. True lies. That was of course. During. His early NOPE budget arthouse period. That's right. That's right. Things have changed since then titanic is now the most successful motion picture in history. Some say its box office will grow so large, it may actually show privilege that no accountants can hide. Is Enormous as the canvases. It paints a heartbreaking tale of young love in the midst of pulse pounding adventure. Here's some of the scenes from tonight's first nominees for best picture the titanic. Virgenes it was a special moment his peers gathered here celebrating a real from the film. He'd risked everything on and given everything up through years of public criticism. He lived up to the camera name and persevered. Part Billy Crystal. Returned to the stage the applause settled down. Christo glanced at James that clip cost fifteen million. That's about right. That's about right. While James had given up his stake in titanic to keep creative control. He was relieved the film that could have ruined. Him would be considered a triumph tonight's Oscars. Watched by nearly sixty million households would determine just how much of a triumph. To. Lagarto mark. Lhasa. Out. Fisher and Michael Kanfer for titanic and the Oscar goes through and the Oscar goes to Russell Carpenter. Red Buff and Richard Harris. What's As the night carried on titanic picked up even more momentum. Each person thanked they're demanding perfectionist director who brought out the best in them. The Oscar goes to James Horner Titanic. Jamie's First Academy Award. He would win two Oscars that night for best score and best. Original Song. I don't write speeches because I'm always so superstitious. Jim. Cameron. Thank you for being in a good mood that day. When I grow to Song. Thank you all. Now in victory, all was forgiven. Titanic would end up with a record breaking number of Australians. Finally. It was time to announce best director. Actor Warren Beatty made his way across the stage. The nominees for the best achievement in directing. Peter Cattaneo for the full monty. Does lands end goodwill. Curtis Hanson for La Confidential. Atom Egoyan for the suite here. James Cameron for panic. James, clasps hands together along the aisle of the auditorium surrounded by his creative team. The Oscar goes to James Cameron for. James rocked his head back letting the weight of the moment set in and stood up to acknowledge everyone around him with high fives and hand fits. In the row behind him Jamie Horne beaming with joy. Incredible Tinge. Shook hands and James began pointing all the smiling faces from his team. You. Yes. Yes. Yes. James turned walked the stage and was met by Arnold Schwarzenegger you did. Congratulations. then. Kate winslet in the front row alongside actress Gloria Stuart. Games you did this. He finally turned to walk up the five steps to the podium. -gratulations. Warren. James took the statuette with one hand for the other grasped as well. The most cherished prize. You would ever win leaned in the spotlight as stepped up to the microphone. James looked at the audience they were as peers and looked at his parents sitting in the back of the auditorium. Every director that ever stood up here had his cast to think and I had a killer cast. They really threw down for me so kate, Gloria, Leo, Kathy Francis, and billy bill, Susie Lewis, and about eighty others. You guys gave me pure gold every day and I share this gold with you. Everybody else that was going to thank either Gotten Oscar or a nomination so they're covered. And and. My original producers. My parents who are here tonight. Philip and surely Cameron. He looked to his parents embarrassed to be mentioned but glowing with pride Shirley was already crying and Philip wiped away a tear mom. Dad. There is no way that I can express you what I'm feeling right now. My heart is full to bursting. Except to say, I. I feel like I'm the king of the world. Congratulations here, right this way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Clear the cameras also, if you just walked right through here, they're gonNA, take your photo and in grave your statue. Thank you. You're in rare air now. Warren. King of the world. Indeed. Thank you. Mr Cameron congratulations may I take your photo of course of course? Yes. Yes. Yes. Man these things are cool. Okay turns slightly. Okay. One. More. Perfect. Thank you so much and congratulations Mr Cabrera Q. Gravier Award, right Oh. Thank you. Thank you. Enter the congratulations to you to. Really. Truly thank you so much. Mr Cameron have your parents. Oh honey. Bombs. You guys you made me cry in their with your speak. I'm sorry mov. Son. You've done God. I'm sorry I doubted you. This is. Remarkable. Rono. I'm proud of you. Philip. You're making them cry Chicago take pictures. It okay. Let. Let's go get this baby engraved A. He would take the stage one final time that night when titanic won best picture to. James Cameron had conquered Hollywood. After reconciling with his own Dad James, vowed to be a better father himself. Telling a Canadian journalist, he planned to spend the next year with his daughter in their backyard. Building sand. Castles. Although James, marriage to Linda Hamilton ended in nineteen, Ninety, eight, two years later, he would marry his Sony. Actress Susie Amos. With whom he's been married ever since. Together, they have two daughters and a son and if co-founded schools, environmental causes and humanitarian organisations. James would go on to film several documentaries about the oceans and would embark on record breaking submersible dive to the deepest part of the Mariana Trench. Nearly, three times the depth of titanic. The first ever successful solo dive. Deep Sea Challenger, I am on the bottom. Thirty five, thousand, seven, hundred, fifty, six feet. He would explore the ocean floor. Discover several new species of animals and take scientific samples that would advance the field of marine biology. James Two thousand nine film Avatar would break Titanic's box office record. Revolutionized, digital filming, techniques. Now in use by Steven Spielberg. Peter Jackson. Guillermo, Del Toro. And Christopher Nolan. He's currently finishing his most ambitious project yet. The simultaneous filming. Before film franchise. said in the avatar universe. He's also an adviser to. NASA. On a plan mission to Mars. Actress suborning lever. Now a Hollywood icon said of James Cameron. There are very few geniuses in the world. Let alone, in our business. And he's certainly one of. Hey I'm Ross Marquand, play the role of James Cameron Blockbuster. Thanks so much for listening and be sure to leave us a five star review on Apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks. I'm series Creator Matt Schrader. Hey I'm the sound designer. Peter Bobby. It's I'm from non-royal Grind. The composer I am producer Angelina Bobbitt's I'm Ross Marquand I play the role of James Cameron Blockbuster, and this is our final creator chat. But the finale episode you just heard of Blockbuster, the story of Cameron I. Hope You've enjoyed this series we certainly did making what a wild ride making. This whole thing through the corona virus times, and doing things remotely in many cases. Let us know you think please take a moment to leave us those ratings share with a friend. That's the only way we can bring you. Future Seasons continue to grow the podcast continue to make things that are as much work as we've all put into this this series to make this. Make this as great as we can make it Ross Marquand, such an incredible portrayal of James Cameron for this and even in recording, I remember sort of melting into certain lines and forgetting that you weren't James Cameron what was it that you felt you could tap into? Well for one thing you two, thousand, one, a space odyssey I know is one of his favorites at my favorite movie of all time and I just I just I'm I'm audie does I'm an all of the team that he surrounded himself with. Of. Course you know teaming up with Gail and heard who I respect the hell out of you know really enjoyed working with over the years but you know I just I just love the background of this guy you know coming from Canada making four bucks an hour as a truck driver to becoming arguably one of the most iconic filmmakers of all time and I think you know every artist, every actor filmmaker, you know makeup artist whatever your chosen profession is you all go into hoping that it'll workout is by certain was hoping it would work out for me but for a long time, I didn't think it would. I got very discouraged I. Think a lot of us get discouraged because after enough years under your belt one failure for the next. You Think, Oh, it's. It's probably not gonNA happen. And I actually gave up acting right before I booked the walking dead. But with James, I love history because it sounds like there was never any question his mind that he was going to quit. You know it was just he had this idea in his head and he just he went for it full full force and I love that because he he almost exerted his will upon the filmmaking world and said, no no. Trust. Me Just give me the opportunity and give me give me the budget of course. I will give you excellence. Yemen. Perfection he he did his shirted Fernando the end of this story is the kind that I always love in stories. It's it's music for the last several minutes of the whole thing James finally winning and reconnecting with his dad backstage and the triumph of. A legacy like very few people in the world have ever made and tell us about how you crafted the music for the the end of this series the the big payoff to all of the emotion that James has been feeling. Well, one of the first conversations we had we set out to write the music was. That, we wanted to things. A theme that it was easily recognizable throughout the series for James. And also have that theme and that music payoff at the end of the series. So we've been talking about these last q i. Think from the very beginning and I actually tried versions as we were going along and you know try doing different things. was always conscious in my mind of. Making sure. We lead up to these big moment. In these final piece, we end up releasing a lot of the most important. Themes. and. That we've heard, throw the SEWRI. And we also revealed. At the big moment? Of, reconciliation with his dad. Every time we've heard the parents theme or what's the theme between James and his parents there's always. A certain sadness or certain detachment there. But this time we finally feeling. A little bit more fleshed out and more present as he's that finally gives him the acknowledgement he's been wishing for. Yeah I was so excited to hear the the the end of this music which has got to be a lot of pressure to put on a composer to say, Hey, make this music really land. At the end of the whole thing. Right. We had these moments through our series where James is in a nightmare vision of the terminator reason this this PCP induced haze and This last episode had a little bit of a misdirection to where I think everyone expects. Titanic is going to be this surprise hit at because we all know that now and it wasn't when it was first released James is really devastated a couple of weeks because it was looking like this was really going to damage twentieth century Fox and and destroy James Reputation it was it was like a game of dominoes and all the pieces were laid out way way far. Back from where they were intimidating being, and then once it finally caught fire once the domino's hit, it just became a worldwide phenomenon I remember. I have seen that movie three times mostly on dates because they were one everyone wanted going on a date night watch that movie. But it it was such an affecting movie would really you know every time you watch you're like man this is this really tugged at my heartstrings. You know there's a lot of really amazing themes in that you know and it's heartbreaking of course, but you know it's it's a beautiful film to make. Something like that and and pour your heart in and go on these dives to the bottom of the ocean, and then to see that fail in the box office and then finding out, you just lost most of the money from this. Day Who Imagine James Out, in the desert with his buddy saying I think I'm done I. Think I'm washed up I think this is going to be the end of my career. I. Just can't even imagine. You know what? A what? A what a wonderful surprise universe had in store for him after that, you know because we've all had ups and downs in the industry I think in any industry for that matter but the idea that he could be so dejected and so down on his luck incensio hopeless in that moment and thinking this might be the end of my career or I'd have to. You know really come back in a big way years from now and reinvent myself What a what a wonderful gift the universe ends door from saying no, we're just kidding it's just it's a slow burn. We're GONNA get there it just GonNa take some extra time and then to stay at the box office number, one of the box office for the next four months is just is wonderful. It's a really it's a really cool Happy Ending Peter the Oscars are a huge moment for James. But through all of this series you've been weaving in these real. Archival sound moments, and at the end of this episode, there's there's a lot of this but but we also hear other things that are archival as well. That are I felt like really helped deliver the authenticity of this being you know a real story of real things that happened. Yeah and I think from my point of view what I strive to accomplish with scenes that have archival elements in them is not to make it sound whom our Kyle it's rather I'm trying to. Bring the archival elements to life right because we can degrade audio all we want, but it's it's the other way. We really want those things to come back and relive those experiences. So you know we start sprinkling all the elements around and we know we won't be able to do one hundred percent because there's a degradation in the original audio and there's the factor of time I mean this was over twenty years ago that he got the Oscar but but still you know it's about. Want to experience I mean I. Want to experience that moment again, one of my favorite things that I stumbled upon well, after writing all of this, which is that the the James Horner storyline you know doing the song with Selene Dion that's top secret, and all these questions are you in a good mood Jim? Are you in a good mood finally James here's the song and the moment I actually. Didn't catch until we were almost done with the series is when Jamie says winning his Oscar for the the music and the song titanic he says that in his Oscar speech to James says, thank you for being in a good mood. That day and I can't believe I missed this when we're putting together and it was a perfect way to tie up their work together on titanic and what? I found. So incredible is this ambitious attitude that James Cameron has willing to work anyone and figure anything out and he's GonNa find a way and his friends Randy frakes bill. Wisher never had any doubts he would succeed at whatever he did because of those trials as you've heard in some of our bonus interview episodes with them but even even they never expected, he would become the biggest blockbuster director of. All. Time of titanic and Avatar and we hope that ambition is rubbed off on on you like it has for us. We were getting goosebumps throughout making this for the last nine months and so many surprises I think he did rubber finance because we felt that you know to match his ambition we have to be ambitious to with the story like with telling this story, bringing it to you. so I think this is one of the most ambitious podcasts yet if not imposed them bishops podcast. Yeah I can say being along for every step of this process this this is the most ambitious podcast that has been created just the attention that's put into every aspect of this to try to figure out ways do things it took a lot of time and energy am so grateful to everyone who was involved this whole season I really WanNa. Thank you all for being a part of it is a pleasure to work with you and I think this is the richest. Most rewarding experience I've had making something creative like this and I'm so honored to be able to share that with you all. Yeah. Well, thank you and thank you for letting me be a part of it. Thank you and Ross. Where can people connect with you on social media? They can find me on just my name at Ross Marquand on twitter or instagram and producer Lena. Bobbitt's e can find me on Instagram at Alina Bobbitt's it is l. l. a. w. e. c. and the Maestro, the beautiful original score from Fernando, Arroyo, less grain Fernando. Where can people connect? With you and by the soundtrack support your work I'm on Instagram at F. A. R. O., Y. Ferrari, and you can get the score at get blockbuster Dot Com and visa the store perfect right there on the front page of the store and the wizard of sound design and recording that brought all what two, hundred, thousand of these audio clips together the amazing Peter Bobby. It's yeah. Thanks a lot for being a part of this You can follow my work at Peter Buffets Dot Com or follow me on social media instagram twitter at P. Bobbitt's, which is P. B. A.. W. I. E. C. and Matt Schrader. You can follow me at match reiter on twitter but more importantly help us make the next season were really excited to be putting together the first steps of what we hope can be a really powerful and inspiring season three. So share blockbuster pot and all your social channels with your friends who may enjoy this, and if you so choose to support the creators, you can also send us a small contribution directly at blockbuster dot com, and we'll even share with us some of our bonus elements along the way making this season. But it's been a a real treat to bring this all to you and thank you again for spending the last ten episodes with us on blockbuster season to the story of James Cameron for all of us here I match. Raider, and thank you for listening. Blockbuster is written and narrated by me match Raider, sound designed by Peter, hits original music by Fernando Arroyo Alaska Rain produced by Elena obviates starring Ross Marquand. For. More on blockbuster follow us on social media at blockbuster pod or visit US online to support the creators at blockbuster DOT COM. Blockbuster is an original production of epoch left media.

titanic James James Cameron blockbuster Bill Jim Hollywood director Oscar Jamie James Horner Fox Selene Dion billy bill James Other James Cameron Blockbuster James Life Arnold Schwarzenegger Leo Bill Wisher James Responsible Ross Marquand
'There was no plan': The long road to Brexit

Front Burner

21:26 min | 1 year ago

'There was no plan': The long road to Brexit

"This is a CBC podcast. Hello I'm Jamie plus Well here we are Brexit Day. And it only only took about four years and o'clock projected onto ten Downing Street will countdown to the moment at eleven pm. London time. That Britain formerly leaves the the European Union. I know you WANNA bad on that. Still Blacks by a special coin will enter circulation circulating in the UK to commemorate the occasion. The path to this moment has taken some incredible twists and turns. I profoundly the decisions that this House has taken. We lost able to do what so today the defining moments of the the whole breakfast saga and a look ahead to the country's post divorce future. I'm joined again by ROB WATSON THE BBC World Services UK political correspondent. This is front burner. Rob Thank you so much for coming back onto the podcast ask well. Thanks for having me back on Jamie. I guess if if you wanted to go back to where this all began we could go all the way back to the seventy s but sadly we do not have all day so I'm going to pick a more contemporary starting point three years ago I committed to the British people that I would renegotiate opposition opposition in the European Union and hold an in out referendum. Now I'm delivering on that commitment. You will decide why did then. Then Prime Minister David Cameron Coal for Brexit Referendum in the first place purely for domestic political reasons and purely for the management of his zone governing Conservative Party. And I think that's why by the way before we really got guy that's why I think historians are going to be very very cruel on David Cameron. Because they will say that he he didn't hold a referendum because he really felt this country was crying out hit that it really needed it at wanted. This big debate about brexit but just to sort out a problem within his governing conservative party because essentially what had been happening really. I guess mainly from the nineties onwards that there was a a wing of the Conservative Party. so-called eurosceptic wing that just wanted out of the European Union and what really brought things to a head was that there were more and more conservatives like that inside side. The party is members of the party. And of course Mr Cameron have been absolutely terrified by the rise of this out and to EU party. Called you KIP. So that's why we are where we are because of domestic political issues and I want to go through the highlights with you today so the brexit campaign kicked off it. It seems like a long time ago. Now at the pre brexit era what were the moments from that campaign. That's still stand out in your memory for for me. I think of Boris Johnson and that big red bus that said we send the EU three hundred and fifty million pounds a week let's fund our NHL s instead. Vote Leave I. I think the thing I would add to that is of course that that genius slogan and I guess everyone listening or a member and if they don't hear it as take back control take back control of our laws of our money and of our of our borders. I mean whatever you think of of the Brexit the whole Brexit exit projects. I it is a genius campaign so they had a very good slogan and they were offering this vision of if we leave the EU. We're going to be entering some sort of bright sunny out plant plant whereas in many ways the the remain campaign was all about In many ways it was about negative. Say if we leave you we won't have these good things if we leave the EU then maybe our economy has gained speed. Go down. It's going to mean we'll be missing out on the economic growth so that didn't quite have that sort of I don't know this sort of buccaneering hearing vision of the leaf campaign So the day the referendum comes is June twenty third two thousand sixteen. And do you remember what was going going through your mind is the results rolled in resupplies. S- cost in favor of remain was sixteen million one hundred forty one thousand in two hundred and forty one. The total number of votes cast in favor of leave was seventeen million. Four hundred ten thousand seven hundred forty two so first thing is. I wasn't surprised. I'm not claiming to be like the greatest political guru on on earth. But I mean I had read the opinion polls which suggested that Lee had a very good chance that the other thing is Jamie is that I've been traveling all over the country and it was just so so hard to find people outside of the big cities outside of young people outside of universities and whatnot. We're GONNA vote to remain. So what did I think uncommon night when when it came in our member thinking instantly that this is like a sort of pseudo revolutionary moment. Why do I say that because since the early nineteen nineteen eighties? It had been for both Britain's main parties the Conservatives and labour it had been an absolute cornerstone the bedrock of their foreign and domestic policy. So obviously leaving the European Union was going to be an almighty challenge and the other thought that occurred to me as my goodness. How on earth that? We're going to put everybody this country. She binds together again when the result has been so close. The country is so divided. And it's all been so passionate and so emotional so as you mentioned and it's incredibly divided fifty. Two percent of voters vote to leave the European Union and then Prime Minister David Cameron promptly resigns and and did you get a sense that there had been much of a plan in place for what would happen. Should the country vote the way it did to to leave is is an easy one to answer Jamie. Absolutely no I mean look no I mean. That's one of the reasons why we're in such a mess while we were in such mass for the last three and a half years. That was no plan. Indeed David Cameron said look at said to the the machinery of government. so-called civil service. Look Econ do kind of a plan because that might interfere affair with the campaign e either one way or another so no there was absolutely no plan and that's why you instantly went in to a full blown political crisis I mean undoubtedly. This is no exaggeration. Once David Cameron and laughed and and clearly intensified while Theresa May was in office will come to and a second note out. Britain was in its most profound political crisis since nineteen forty five the crisis which is not over now and then as you mentioned theresa may takes over Conservative Party following Renzo we face a time of great national change and I know because we a Great Britain the we will rise as to the challenge I I know Boris Johnson declined to run Nigel farage. The leader of the party. He also resigned his post. I have never been and I've never wanted to be a career politician. Miami and being in politics was to get Britain out of the European Union and so a Finnish village rights stat. Aside as leader of you feels like a lot of politicians are jumping ship. And here's Theresa May and she has to try and get at this whole breakfast thing in motion and let's fast forward to her decision to call an election in two thousand seventeen. I think before we fast forward to that. I think we should just do a quick sit. Reports Situation Report on threes May and that is to say on the positive side I think historians will say she was clearly. A woman had a strong sense of duty. That Look David. It Cameron's gone you know. Somebody needs to step forward right but I think history will be immensely harsh. I mean mentally harsh on threes may for the following reasons. I think they'll say that she'd been remain. Ah but I think first of all. They will say she acted as if the result had been eighty twenty subtly she was talking about the hardest kind of AH OF BREXIT. North of the votes had been fifty fifty almost fifty fifty. I think secondly the terrible mistake that she made was to treat the Brexit exit vote as if it was some issue of party managements in the governing Conservative Party that she had to deal with it in some way that capterra party together whereas in fact Brexit is clearly I depending on your point of view either an existential crisis or an existential opportunity but it certainly is some kind of issue party management and I think the third strike against her is that she was simply totally and utterly the wrong kind of personality. At that time I mean any politician would have struggled to step in there after such a divisive campaign but I think it needed someone who was able if you like to put their arms around the shoulder of the country. Trey somebody was very empathetic. Somebody was full of perhaps of emotional intelligence and someone who could have come up with some grand vision as to hey could stitch the country back together. But but she didn't do that. She called an election as as you were saying a minute ago. which all went horribly wrong? She this repeated campaign slogan strong unstable leadership withdrawing unstable leadership while by the end of the election. She had lost her majority placing her even more difficulty. But that that was. The root of the problem was saying we're seeing Brexit as an issue of party management whereas I think perhaps you know in hindsight she would have been she would have done better to say right. Let's involve evolve all of Britain's political partisan this that's try and get everyone involved. Let's try and get the British people involved. Let's not rush it. Let's think things through but instead she five the starting gun on Britain leaving the European Union the two year clock on that process without actually knowing what she could possibly deliver or achieve. Yeah right I remember in one particularly grim circumstance Dan. She promised her colleagues that she would quit if they would just support her plan her brexit plan like that was her enticement. Vote for my plan. And you'll finally finally be rid of me. This this must have been a terribly disheartening. Time for everyone it was look. I mean there's no doubt that a plunged just The Conservative Party into a crisis and throw in there as well personalities. You know politicians on automatons. I mean they tend to have large uh-huh life personalities and people particularly on this issue of the European debate. I I mean it. It sort of gets a passion that is really hard. Ought to imagine an edit got politicians and and the public at large so the seeing each other in in a terrible way where remains would think how on earth enough could leave as believe all these lies. How could I be so stupid? How could they not see? This is bad for the country leaving and on the other side the Brexit is in parliament's and we all be saying look we've had a democratic vote. People knew what they were voting for. Why you standing in the way things have been tough and you know at this this time? There's also this potential crisis that could be kicked off in Northern Ireland or a feeling that there could be this crisis in Northern Ireland Ireland. Right yes absolutely. I mean one of the things that had been remarked on by by the remains site although not much picked up by the media or by people living in mainland Britain as it were as is that look if Britain was vote to leave the European Union and if it wasn't to stay in the European Union's main economic bits are at single market. The customs union will then hang on a minute that might have to be a border to check goods between Northern Ireland which would be staying in the UK and out of the EU and the Irish Republic which would be staying in the EU? And why does any of that matter will anyone who knows that the history of that troubled corner of Europe would know that it over thirty odd years has that been a sectarian conflicts between Catholics. Who mainly would like a united Ireland and Protestants? He wanted to remain Want Northern Ireland to remain in the UK. Okay and and the border you know if there were if there was any form of structure there because the Good Friday Agreement the peace agreement did away with all of that well it could once again become a a a target for paramilitaries but more than that. They warned Britain. Leaving the European Union would open up whole existential question about Northern Ireland. I mean what is its future as continuing part of the United Kingdom is it a part of a united island and and those sort of issues at source gone away with both the UK and Republic of Ireland being in the EU and of course with the peace agreement we have already started to stop. Pylon Ordina are where the pizza. Meaning ingredients We have to get organizing teams and and we're talking about all of these these divisions but you know by by the time this thing rolls around two two thousand nine hundred nine. People are literally preparing for this by stockpiling food. And why is that happening now. Quite a lot of Britain's fresh food particularly things like Salads Will come from the European Union because obviously it grows better right in Portugal Portugal and Spain and it doesn't miserable Cold Old England at this time of the year. So I think there was. There was some concern you know if Britain suddenly became what's known as a third country and every lorry that comes into the cavalry truck that comes into the UK is GonNa have to be checked. Well the supermarkets were warning that would have an effect and that the the While the shelves would be empty that wouldn't be quite that sort of selection that people were used to I mean. Can you imagine that and that again was the kind of thing that inflamed passions with remaining Lina saying what kind of crazy people in charge of this country that they'd be willing to risk Shelves not not having food so now we're starting to get to more recent recent familiar history. Right Theresa may finally does step down and Boris Johnson. Steps up so you're about to get onto the bit where Boris Johnson's in charge. And he says right. I parliament's has been standing in the way we could never get brexit done and of course on one level that is true but I was thinking these kind of times. It's important to get the narrative the timeline correct and his what's happened you know. It's true that parliament said no to her deal but threes may didn't put that deal to parliament until when until the beginning the very start of Twenty nineteen twenty nine thousand nine hundred Yup nearly three years after the referendum. Why because she was struggling to get that deal agreed within her own government within its inner circle with an cabinet and within the governing Conservative Party? So I mean and she did eventually step down shortly. Leave the job that it has been the honor of my life to hold the second female Prime Minister but certainly not the last idea so with no ill will but with enormous and enduring gratitude to have had the opportunity to serve the country. I love and I. I wonder if you think Boris Johnson did a better job of dealing with these divisions agents these political divisions he steps up he replaces her as leader of the Conservative Party. And the last time we talked to you he was running on his campaign of getting brexit done and and he won and here. We are hours away from brexit. Getting done. So it's complex. I mean to make it as simple as possible. Mister Johnson has not dealt with the the divisions in the country. What what happens over the next few months and years who knows but I think where he was triumphant is that essentially his wing of the party? the pro brexit wing of the party that was a complete takeover. He he essentially expelled those conservatives. Who didn't believe in the whole brexit projects and I think his other great triumph? You remember the slogan take back control from the from the referendum which I mentioned well as other genius during in the recent general election the UK was a slogan that Brexit done. Jan Rex. If Donald I've seen one columnist say Boris Johnson downgraded brexit from rewards to relief. In other words he promised. Now the Brexit is going to be fabulous but for goodness sake. Let's just get it done and the genius there. Is that what he managed to do was to really to to unite the leave vote. It's a if you like. It was like getting the band back together right getting the old vote. Leave Band back together and uniting the votes around the Conservatives so I wanNA talk to you about what happens now when Big Ben Strikes at eleven eleven pm. Tonight it's going to mark an extraordinary moment in British history. And here's the funny thing you know. When Britain joins the European Union and in one thousand nine hundred seventy three there was no great Fan Farrell celebration? And there's no great big sort of fanfare celebration now that we're leaving and I think in the first US case it was because supposedly seventy three people didn't know what membership would bring. I think some of that is true now about why they won't be celebrations. People are people are just thinking what happens next but I think also also because of the divisions I mean. It's difficult to celebrate when you still have a profoundly divided aided society and when you're still not quite sure what happens next and that of course brings me to well. What does Mr Johnson do and here of course you the the prime minister during the campaign as we just mentioned he had click get brexit don but didn't really say very much if anything it's all about for what purpose I I mean what was going to be the point of it so I think what the country and what the world is going to be looking out for in the next few months and don't forget Mr Johnson city wants this new relationship with the e everything sorted out by the end of twenty twenty at the end of this year is is Britain is Britain seeking a new economic model is seeking a new foreign orne and trade policy? Now it's leaving the European Union and its main institutions the customs union and the Single Market. And at this historic moment I I mean we. We simply don't know and I would throw in one final thought and that is doing. Brexit is not going to be easy for the simple reason that the majority of businesses remain skeptical about half. The population remained very skeptical. And of course most of Britain's allies we have made read a big strategic mistake. So it's going to be an uphill battle but Mister Johnson has bags of optimism. And of course he has a thumping majority so this looks like the the beginning of another very interesting chapter in British history again. Well I hope. Royal keep abreast of all of that. Thank you you so much just Jamie by all right so before we head into the weekend another update on the corona virus the. Who has now officially declared this a public health. Emergency of international concern. As of Thursday. There were ninety eight cases in eighteen countries. Outside China there are eight cases of human to human transmission in four of those countries including the United States but not here in Canada so far there have not been any deaths outside of China. The epicenter of the outbreak were there are now more than eight thousand cases so what does declaring a public health. Emergency of international concern actually mean well it signals to other countries of the W. H. O.. Thinks situation is serious. Outside the epicenter epicenter. Such a declaration has been declared only five times in the past on Thursday the director of the. Who repeatedly said this was in part to help protect countries with weaker health systems around the globe the declaration could rally more global coordination for more unified response including recommendations dacians from the. Who to stop the spread of the disease while avoiding unnecessary interference with trade and travel also member states are required to share information with the WHO. Okay that is all for today. We're going to be watching this story though. Have a wonderful weekend Front burner comes to you from. ABC News and CBC podcasts. The show was produced by Mark Up Bologna Imaging Burchard Elaine. Chao and Shannon Higgins Derek. Vander Vanderweide does our sound design along with Matt. Cameron are music is by Joseph Chaban a boombox sound the executive producer of front burner. Is Nick McCabe locos. And I'm I'm Jamie Pleso. Thanks so much for listening and Theo and one day for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS Goto C._B._C.. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

European Union Britain Conservative Party Prime Minister David Cameron Mister Johnson brexit Brexit Jamie Pleso United Kingdom Theresa May parliament Ireland Northern Ireland Brexit Day prime minister US ROB WATSON David Cameron Coal BBC World Services UK Conservative Party.
Industrial firms disclose cyber incidents. US DHS to check airliner cybersecurity. RCMP security case update. Bulletproof host taken down. Gnosticplayers. Royal phish.

The CyberWire

19:18 min | 1 year ago

Industrial firms disclose cyber incidents. US DHS to check airliner cybersecurity. RCMP security case update. Bulletproof host taken down. Gnosticplayers. Royal phish.

"Hello Everyone Dave here with a quick reminder that if you are a woman and you're listening to this podcast chances are you should be interested in the cyber wires sixth annual women in cybersecurity reception. This year's event is Thursday October twenty four th at the international spy museum in Washington. DC You can learn more by visiting the cyber wire dot com slash WCs. That's the cyber wire dot com slash. WCBS check it out and we hope to see you there. Rheinmetall and D. C. have disclosed sustaining cyber attacks the US government is looking at airliner Cyber Cyber Vulnerabilities Sim jacker Israel but recent phone seem unaffected an update on the RCMP data misappropriation case German police raid bulletproof host NAS declares maybe back and someone is sending fishing snail mail that claims the British crown needs your help to ease the economic fallout of Brexit and now a word from our sponsor observe it the greatest what is threat to businesses today isn't the outsider trying to get in. It's the people you trust the ones who already have the keys your employees contractors and privileged users US sixty percent of online attacks carried out by insiders the stop these insider threats. We need to see what users are doing before an incident occurs observant observe it enables security teams to detect risky user activity investigate incidents in minutes and effectively respond with observant. You know the whole story. Get your free trial at observe dot com slash cyber wire. That's observe the letter I the letter T. dot com forward slash cyber wire and we thank observe it for sponsoring our show funding for this cyber wire podcast is made possible people in part by bug crowd connecting organizations with the top security researchers pen testers and white hat hackers in the world to identify ten times more vulnerabilities than scanners. The traditional pen tests learn more about how their award winning platform provides actionable insights like remediation advice to help fix faster while methodology driven assessments ensure compliance needs are met at bug crowd dot com from cyber wires studios that data tribe. I'm Dave Bittner with your cyber wire summary for Monday September September thirtieth two thousand nineteen in two apparently unrelated incidents rheinmetall and defence construction Canada sustained attacks on their. It he infrastructure in Ryan Mattel's case the attack whose precise nature the company didn't specify disrupted automotive production in Brazil Mexico and the US US Defence Construction Canada has been able to maintain operations in the face of what the Ottawa Sun reports may have been a ransomware attack the US government is giving fresh impetus to a program that would look for cyber vulnerabilities in commercial aircraft. The program is led by the Department of Homeland Security Security with participation by the departments of Transportation and defense dhs had acquired a used Boeing seven fifty seven airliner back in two thousand sixteen eighteen and used it to research potential vulnerabilities the program had slowed down in the wake of controversies over the way some of the initial findings were disclosed but vhs tends to resume the work the US Air Force is also conducting its own complimentary review of Commercial Aircraft Cybersecurity that research will address flight right systems airline hacks have tended to hit reservation systems for the usual criminal reasons the data stolen from such systems can be monetize but this research program will look for ways in which aircraft safety and availability could be compromised the air force fly some aircraft that are basically commercial models and there's considerable overlap between military and civilian avionics which explains the Services Interest Air Force Assistant Secretary for acquisition technology and logistics sticks Roper told The Wall Street Journal quote if we don't probe I our adversaries will we've been a little complacent and not trying to attack all parts of the airplane plane and quote researchers at SR labs say they've developed a way of determining whether devices are vulnerable to Sim Jacker and similar exploits these are the ones adaptive mobile recently warned about in which an attacker could pawn your phone by sending you an SMS message. They also run their checks against a representative representative sample of Susceptible Devices Sim jacker and the related W I B attack could apparently be used against about nine percent of android and I o devices. Sr labs concludes that still a lot of phones given that there are some seven billion phones kicking around these days but SR labs thinks the likelihood you'll be the affected is still pretty low and the good news is that none of the more recent models seem to be endanger. Anonymous sources have told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation nation that the raid on Mr Cameron orchises Ottawa condo turned up dozens of encrypted devices that police may not be able to break Mr Ortis is the RCMP SEE MP intelligence director who's been arrested on charges related to alleged violations of the Information Security Act reporters say that he may have intended to pass sensitive sensitive information to either organized crime groups like the Sinoloa cartel or to unspecified foreign governments the CBC does note that encryption isn't illegal but that it does make the investigators lives more difficult they also found at least one interesting piece of paper and Mr Ortiz's quarters a a handwritten note that says the project which words were underlined and followed with John Lemons blog removing your pdf meta data the blog post mentioned offers a step by step guide to removing Meta data from a pdf the CBC says that a scan of some of Mr Horta's accessible devices indicated that between September up-tempo eighth and ninth some twenty-five documents or more had been processed and sanitized to remove identifying information the RCMP announced Mr Order Arrest on September thirteenth so the PDF's were scrubbed less than a week before he was taken into custody Mr or Mrs Bail hearing is set for this Friday in other news of crime and punishment police in the German launched of rhein-pfalz have raided and shut down a bulletproof hosting data center in Trouble Trubbach doc the AP reports the action crossed both launched and international boundaries with arrests near Frankfurt and other police action in the Netherlands Luxembourg and Poland the data center located in a surplus NATO facility acquired by a Dutch national in twenty thirteen is thought to have been involved in both contraband markets and in the two thousand sixteen gene distributed denial of service attack on Deutsche Telekom hosting contraband trading websites isn't a crime under German law at least provided. You don't really know that's that's what the sites are up to but the authorities think the people running the show at trump and truck knew perfectly well what was going on and they themselves were mobbed up allegedly. We hasten to add allegedly. NAS players may be back online game company Zingo disclosed a breach on September twelve and now the hacker news says that Nas Dick Players claims that he or she or they has counted coup against Singa attaining access to some two hundred eighteen million words with friends accounts nonstick players is neither a gray hat nor gadfly earlier this year they gained notoriety for offering seven hundred forty eighty seven million records called from twenty four popular sites and finally thanks to Mr Paul Ridden of skill web a firm in the UK. Hey that provides a range of business services. He shared an interesting little item that appeared in his mailbox with those of us who hang around linked in a snail mail letter purporting reporting to be from Her Majesty's household asks recipients to help Queen Elizabeth Save Britain's economy from brexit with Bitcoin of course if you get one of these as you'll no doubt want to hop to it because in exchange for your patriotic or nostalgic or Anglo Philip gesture you'll get your very own self a membership of the Royal L. Warrant Holders Association. We consulted are palace desk and they tell us that royal warrants are actually thing or more properly. They're actually things the things by which purveyors of goods and services to the Royal Family might be recognized for example Bluebird buses and fortnum and Mason groceries have got the Royal Warrant Warrant so does schweppes surprises there but so does Samsung thus her majesty actually listened to the cyber wire who knows we might qualify for a royal warrant but on the other hand the Palace desk tells us not to get our hopes up especially in as much as we're only Americans poor things and also because the editors over the years have developed ways about them that well just aren't right alas. No one seems to have taken her majesty up on the call for help so we may never know if easing the pain of brexit would earn a royal warrant and now a a word from our sponsor Edwards performance solutions. It's commonly accepted that cybersecurity is a business risk not an IT problem what may not be as commonly only accepted is that cybersecurity needs to be an integral part of every business strategy and cybersecurity can actually be an asset to your business achieving this outcome. It's a journey the journey starts with an understanding of what information is important to the business what business processes generate US store or transmit that information and what what are the rules and regulations impacting the information. The next part of the journey is understanding the risks to the business and those information assets followed closely by establishing shing a governance structure the manage those business risks this includes managing the risk to your supply chain. The journey is not an easy one and is fraught with roadblocks and obstacles tickles. You may need a guide Edwards. Performance solutions is ready to be your guide in this journey. Please visit their website E. D. W. P. S. dot com Tom to learn more. That's E. W. P. S. Dot Com and we thank Edwards performance solutions for sponsoring our show and pleased to be joined and once again by Malek Ben Salem. She's the senior. RND Manager for security at Accenture Labs Malek. It's great to have you back. I wanted to highlight some of the work that you and your eighteen or doing there at accenture your cyberthreat group highlighting some of the factors that are involved with the security. What can you share with us today? Yeah thanks they've so accenture as I defense group which is our threat. Intelligence Group has published its annual cyberthreat report an attack lights five different threat factors that are influencing TV cyber threat landscape. The first of those factors are compromising `promising geopolitics and new threats that emerged from this information and technology evolution so we know obviously disinformation has been a concern and many entities continue to warn of cyber threats related to upcoming elections Sion's what our analysts noted is that many of the threat factors are focusing on other types of global political and geopolitical critical events such as international summits you know evolving international tensions and sporting events like the Olympics etc so what are some of the other factors you're tracking this can factor is Haas suburb. Criminals are adapting and working together diversifying their strategies and looking more like states so despite the the high profile law enforcement actions that we've seen against criminal Middle Communities and syndicates in twenty eighteen the ability of fat factors to remain operational shows an increase in maturity and and resilience of criminal networks. This has been noticed in twenty nineteen our analysis indicates that conventional CYBERCRIME CYBERCRIME and financially motivated targeted attacks will continue to pose a significant threat for users and businesses however over the criminal operations will likely continue to shift their tactics to reduce risks of detection and destruction another trend that it our analysts have noticed was that localized underground economies continue to emerge and grow in non English. We're speaking countries such as China and Brazil and they tend to target their domestic populations due to familiarity with their own societies Heidi's on cultures. A third thing we've noticed is the selling and buying of direct access to networks ransomware delivery rather than carrying out advanced in Russians so there has been a marked increase in the sale of remote access to compromise networks and to commodity malware to conducting intrusions for financial gain on underground forums and marketplaces the grouping all of these trends we we expect that cybercriminals will work together more and more more like you know as I mentioned more light in communities as an syndicates and more like states you know it's interesting that this to follow this trend I think that the availability of tools continues Tinubu's to expand which seems to make it easier for these folks to cooperate and collaborate exactly so they commoditisation association of these tools and the markets that are being created to sell by these tools can't help wondering wondering if if that requires more collaboration on the good guys side absolutely absolutely we we definitely not need more collaboration on the defensive side. What we're noticing more recently is that some of these actors actually may have of hybrid motives whether financial ideological or political for instance we've seen that some ransomware appears to have been deployed to destroy information on a target rather than to efficiently make money an example of this is Gogo ransomware that paralyzed a Scandinavian Aluminium Company in March two thousand nineteen? It involved a variant that made it difficult to pay the ransom which suggests that it's real target may have been the victim companies share price and not you know financial. Oh gain before factor is that improved ecosystem hygiene is pushing threats to the supply chain turning friends into into frenemies as companies are improving their security posture there are as they are adopting the traditional all industries cyberthreat countermeasures this is making it difficult for a cyber actress to target them directly and the easier way into to attack them becomes through their partners or their of vendors and then the final factor is the hardware Kabila's like meltdown inspector that were initially discovered in early two thousand eighteen many cloud providers have deployed tocado measures to those vulnerabilities which consisted in slowing down the the processors however businesses based on their size may decide that it makes more sense for them to own or to build on prem clouds in in order to have more control about whether those contra measures should be deployed or not because we know that those updates slowed down the processor. If certain companies bigger companies have higher workloads they may want to consider building their own on on prem cloud instead of you know relying on the the more conventional clouds to run their workloads. Now I mean looking at this this list of five elements I mean is there a common thread throughout them sir sort of a a take home message that folks should be thinking of Volvo. One big message is that the cyber threat landscape continues to evolve so companies have to be resilient to end how to continue working with their cyber threat intelligence groups to update there security mitigation strategies. We'll look than selenium. Thanks for joining us. Thank you day and that's the cyber wire thanks to all of our sponsors for making the cyber wire possible. Especially are supporting sponsor observed the leading insider a threat management platform learn more at observe IT DOT com. Don't forget to check out the grumpy old GEEKS podcast where I contribute to a regular segment called Security Baha. I joined Jason and Brian on their show for a lively discussion of the latest security news every week. You can find grumpy geeks. Were all the fine podcasts are listed and check out the recorded future podcast which I also host the subject there is threatened elegance and every week we talked to interesting people about timely cybersecurity topics. That's at recorded accorded future dot com slash podcast the cyber wire podcast is proudly produced in Maryland out of the startup studios of data tribe with their CO building. The next generation Asian of cybersecurity teams and technology are amazing cyber wire team is Stefan Kelsey Bond Tim no Dr Joe Kerrigan Carol -Tario Nick Valenki Bennett Mo- Chris Russell John Patrick Jennifer Ivan Heater Kilby and I'm Dave Bittner. Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow

US Dave Bittner Brexit RCMP accenture Edwards SR labs Washington NAS Department of Homeland Securit Maryland US Air Force Sim Jacker misappropriation prem clouds Rheinmetall
116 - The Bob Dylan Archive - A Curveball Comes To Tulsa

The Kitchen Sisters Present

27:40 min | 1 year ago

116 - The Bob Dylan Archive - A Curveball Comes To Tulsa

"May come as no surprise. But Bob Dylan is a keeper Bob and his team have been archiving, his music, notebooks paintings and journey for some five decades, thousands of artifacts price this collection of American treasure. Bob kept just about everything a massive private archive of a notoriously, private person housed in storage, facilities in New York, Minneapolis, Malibu and jersey. So it made headlines when word got out that this secret archive had been sold was headed to its new permanent public home in Tulsa, Oklahoma a curveball. Nobody saw coming. Some are cubs are scholars Devaux tease of writer, scientists, or storable figure some archives are tourist attractions. Few are part of a vision for the civic rejuvenation. Of a once riding American city today. The kitchen sisters present the Bob Dylan archive, a curveball comes to tell sir produced by Davy Nelson and Nikki Silva in collaboration with Livia wear and Samuel Shelton Robinson. We are sitting in the offices of lead hearts bookseller that twenty was fifty fifth street in New York City, if you're looking for the keepers, I, maybe simply the converts. The league of my life, my loins. Greece steps down the power to flee on the need. We taking care of catalogs than sold the papers of a lot of novel Buckminster fuller, the Watergate papers of Woodward and Bernstein, the archives of Norman Mailer John uptaken, David madman, this record message. Two young people. Be cool. Turn. Tune in drop. Lyrics archive films. We've got an important part of what we have worked. We've handled the papers ranching from directors Nickless Ray and Abba, Maizels eighty way think of Ray guides. Tytler phone? Wonderful, but yes, I think that's one of the other ideas mother liked the name just a minute. Would you rather have? Great. Video. Why? You'll have to think airland. Yeah. Says she she better talk. They might think it was a. They might be was a movie about flowers. You know, Greg on the. Penny. Baker Monterey is very groovy man. This is our generation man. All you people are all together mad at school musical Arcos, David Byrne poll, Simon you'll you'll Judy Collins and most notably in recent memory Bob Dylan. Just one man. Playing the mouth harp and the guitar. You must be twenty years old now twenty. I was fortunate in that I had been asked number of years earlier to craft a transaction between a group salsa, the George Kaiser family foundation. And the state of Woody Guthrie forties papers, which they were very keen on bringing back to of. So in the unity to do something with Bob's are have was presented to me. I was pondering where to go with it kept going back today that it could be a somewhat more inventive solution than the traditional one, a Harvard or Yale Fibro all of them. Do a great job. The those sticking Bob into Harvard next to the ruffle. Emerson the John Updike papers at some level, I suppose it had an appeal reflecting on this bomb said, I don't need to spend eternity sitting next to James Joyce. Oh. Rambo WC fields. The family. You know, the trap piece family in the circus. Smokey rubs. Ellen ginsburg. Charlie rich. Think of people that analyze dogs today is them with the same boat. I welcome them. Open. Mark Davidson Mets director, the mob, Dylan archive testicle for home a minute. What are these, these large red tanks are the fire suppression system in the volts, if there is a fire these tanks will suck out all the oxygen stop the fire in his tracks and protect the archive, subsequently kill everybody in there. But it'll keep the fire down. I feel a little bit expendable but for a good cause. I'm going to read a couple of items balls. Bring them out ninety two grid. Niro gloves. This was the tampering expired, Mr Cameron big frame drum with an animal skin head there. Our Jingle Bells stapled to the inside. They rattled thusly the black leather jacket Dylan war when he went to electric at Newport in nineteen sixty five we have every take of every recording. Bob Dylan ever did tens of thousands of files music dome and photography to document of his working lock. Into the room. Video pennsylvania. See somebody naked in you say, who is that man? Gend as FOX containers manuscripts from the nineteen sixties starting with chimes of freedom from another side of Bob Dylan nineteen sixty four on waldorf-astoria Toronto Ontario, hotel note paper, handwritten cigarette burns, the lyric manuscripts for bringing it all back home, subterranean homesick blues, maggie's farm highway sixty one like a Rolling Stone, Beleta, thin man news. Michael shakin. I'm the curator Bob doing archive in Tulsa, Oklahoma for the George Kaiser family foundations interest in this archive was the be able to use it in a more civic, fashion, George Kaiser freely amidst that he's not a tremendous Bob Dylan face on chapter and verse and by doing, but he has a vision for Tolson and understand Bob Dylan's outsize role in American culture. What he represents, how many people who labor in the same musical vineyard in which you toil are protests singers, that is people who use their. Music and use the songs to protest the social state in which we live today. The matter of war, the matter of crime or whatever it might be come any. Yes. Are there many? I think there's about. Six. You say about one hundred and thirty six. You mean exactly hundred thirty six. Thirty six hundred forty to the Kaiser foundation buying the Dylan archive looking at it as a way to connect with the work, they're doing in Tulsa, early childhood development. Health care, Oklahoma has the highest incarceration rate of African American women is a big civic component to the Dylan archive, we look for strategies to invest in young children to enhance their odds of success, reducing teen pregnancy, dealing with the correction system making reforms in the way we over incarcerate people civic projects to try to make our community or virus. More inclusive. More interesting Guthrie green is heart focused on performing arts with big free family, friendly events, Stanton Doyle senior program officer over the arts, George Kaiser family foundation. The gathering place is hard to describe the name, the place was very much Georgia's idea. We wanted to create community spot for folks. From across the economic and racial classes of Tulsa could come to an enjoy it really first class park experience or all people would feel welcome, and it would have the function of helping us be more United and feeling a part of the community together. The idea of equal opportunity early intervention in the cycle of poverty. Let's driving principle for the nation. We sometimes get creative in how we tied together. George Kaiser is the Tolson. His family fortune came out of oil is many the family fortunes in Tulsa, have. He's part of this group of billionaires like gates wanted his fortune and put to good use. We had a sense starting ten or fifteen years ago that Tulsa was in a little bit of a rut, Tulsa, historically, has always had a very strong sense of community to some degree now. We're separated by geography by race. And by class, I focused in addressing my Lance repeat. Less on my life experiences than idea on what I thought the purest form of charity was to give all children equal opportunity at birth. No, newborn child bears any responsibility for the circumstances, his or her birth equal opportunity as diminishing commodity in the United States today. Georgia is Jewish bothered came to America. Having been disbarred, and Nazi Germany had been a judge and was on the run. They came to Tulsa, which welcomed them as an immigrant family and help them build a future. He's had every opportunity to be successful, and everybody else should have that same opportunity. We make the case that a strong and vibrant artistic community would lift up our economy, our culture in a way would also create more opportunity. If you'll gather round may children, eight story, I'll will tell. Divall flawed out. All. Hohmann, you him. Wale? George said, we ought to find great artists or musicians lyrical figures have Oklahoma roots, but their materials may be elsewhere and see whether we get the back to Tulsa, I had been enough of folk person. I guess what about what he got three? That's a great Oklahoma who had passionate interest in solving social problems in George kinda gave me the thumbs up. Here on oklahom-. Nothing must Lee nothing in the pocket. Nothing pocketbook. Nothing woody's daughter, nor was really taking great care on stewarding beautifully. The Woody Guthrie archives, and we eventually got a little help from the expert at making these kind of business arrangements about archives guy named Glenn Horwitz what he was constantly reading, and learning traveling, and picking up. He was a human sponge. I'm Dina MacLeod, executive director of the Woody Guthrie center until we're here to preserve what he's body of work and to share it with the public. So the archive is at the heart of everything that we do the first major project in the arts district. We undertook was the Woody Guthrie center, having woody's raw materials. They are where people could go look at the energy that had some impact landed your land land is my land. The California, the New York, I land senators and congressmen and governors and tens of thousands of children go through the centre later. Hans next this lady's your land. It's been defining feature for Tulsa, Oklahoma than we have the Woody Guthrie center up highway. I thought of me that the endless skyway all below me that golden valley. This land was made for you. We'll be back to our story in a moment. The kitchen sisters present is sponsored by simple health, making birth control, simple, convenient, and affordable with online prescriptions and free home delivery. The kitchen sisters believed that all women should have access to contraception regardless of where they live the amount of money, they make or other people's ideas about their reproductive choices. Simple. Health offers trusted brands of birth control, and licensed doctors review, every patient's application, they personalized recommendation based on your health profile and personal preferences. The annual prescription is usually twenty dollars but listeners to kitchen sisters present. Get to try simple health for free by going to simple, health dot com slash kitchen, sisters or entering code kitchen sisters at checkout. This service is not a replacement for routine evaluations by your primary care physician or gynecologist. It's just a way to make things. Simpler more convenient and less expensive go to. Simple, health dot com slash kitchen, sisters or enter code, kitchen, sisters at checkout. Story of the Dylan. Doc nisei at the break of noon, shadows, even the syllabus spoon. The handmade bleed the child's balloon eclipses both the sun and moon to understand you knew too soon. There's no sense in trying. Tosa was such curveball. People's reaction Tulsa is probably the reaction that multilateral, I also. But then when you start to scratch the surface a little bit. And you understand the crucible than Bob Dylan created himself out of. There's a lot of different fathers Guthrie with certainly big one for song, ever row with about Woody Guthrie. Hey, hey, what he got three road. Chew sound. Party. Let's come in lone. Same. It's time and it's torn. Gets diet. And that's hardly bam bolan also the native American collections. Here are unbelievable history is a fascinating history. We're in the belly of America. It's a real crossroads for culture for history. What do you got through center? And ultimately the Bob Dylan center is located in the heart of what's become the Tulsa arts district. Eight me back. This area is just north of the tracks in the early part of the twentieth century was a thriving African American community. There were spots of real distinction. The famous Cains ballroom birthplace of western swing. Big big. Doc. Cotton man gets the money was devastated by the nineteen twenty one race massacre. It's historically been a very divided place ignored and under resource for many decades, most communities, that have had a renaissance last twenty or thirty years have had a thriving arts where young people were drawn to marry that little diversity texture in it in. We didn't really have that. So we try to do some things around restoring some buildings there about five or six blocks. We've taken a strong interest in and brought restaurants. Housing, targeted for teachers musicians artists or social service activists to have subsidized housing and we've tried to do a lot of things all of this one zone. You wrote blowing in the wind and ten minutes. Is that right? Probably just like that. Yeah. Where do come from? It just came right out of that wellspring of creativity thing, you know, all those early songs almost magically written. There's a magic to that in. It's not Siegfried and ROY kinda magic. You know, it's a it's a different kind of penetrating magic. Smattering of photographs of Dylan throughout his career Dylan at care wax, grave at the concert for Bangladesh with Ringo, George Dylan's first encounter with respraying steam, where I'm told he said, I hear you're the new me bub doing center is going to be a nexus for the creative arts show off Dylan's restless creativity. But also celebrate the very notion of what restless creativity mean where all this stuff emanates from. I keep asking myself. Julius. One. We don't want it to be a shrine to Bob Dylan. There will be a permanent exhibition about his life. But in addition to that we really want people to come away, thinking about the creative process and the creative inside themselves. Steve Higgins, special projects manager, Bob Dylan project. Back in the vaults. These are Ida GMs that we rarely if ever pull out the more precious items Dylan's blood on the tracks notebooks. Little three by five nine thousand nine cents each spiral notebooks, incredibly fragile in these notebooks, Phelan wrote in the tiniest handwriting possible. Maybe an eighth of an inch toll the songs that would end up on blood on the tracks Dylan's, spider read microscopic handwriting is unbelievably, well with anybody goes to tell so most of the tracks, but my vices unless you wanna go blind look at the digitals gardens blood on the tracks. I loved it. I really enjoyed a we had talked before we talked about. Yeah. But Cording processes and how when they get very complex much of the truth of a piece of music is lost it becomes something else. And one of the things I enjoyed about blood on the tracks and nobody was that it was very simple. That's the way things are really there are basically very simple. The love. He will tell me the joy that out. My turf me to relate to that. I mean, people enjoying the type of pain, you know. I would lane. One, the Nici change it all I have to read the folks, they said, I live together. Don't be. Don't be the never did like mama's, homemade is thank was thinking. Standing on the. My heading up of these. Getting. The archival materials that we have here, shames the entire narrative about Dylan's life in work. I have no doubt. There will be studies that come out of the Bob Dylan archive in the next few years that'll change the entire game of Dylan scholarship, and that's exciting. Golmud the more you take the more you realize you're gonna keep ticking. You think you've reached the end of the line because they really can't be that much most stuff. But he's my name is Clinton Highland, I write books about musical history. Everybody from Morrison anguish. We're all punk rock books about software. Pepe. I wrote a biography until most people's gold up, which is called Dylan beyond the shades. The George Kaiser foundation purchase Dylan's own personal archive for twenty two million dollars. I've been here month doing research. The two volume biography of the double life of both Dylan. What I look for the holes in the story, and I tried to fill in the holes, essentially, I've had to start again sit a very full an eventful life. And because of the air that he was captured in a so much it's been documented what we didn't realize is that Dylan himself up command. Commodity. Judges everything it's like finding out that there fifty seven checks place, fifty checks but. But. Leave you. This is the role footage for the document, which is Dylan's not sixty six toll documentary. It's all of the cans. So it's hours and hours of the footage that the show on the European till I'm bump was being booed every show. Clinton is said that curious in the archive have changed the narrative for him. He is one of dozens of researchers who have come through from Japan Canada. France all over the United States artists and social thinkers, and community activists might want to be at a place called the Bob Dylan center celebrating the music and the words and the art of Bob Dylan. But trying to maybe take the next step as a place for artistic exploration expression bombs to nontraditional Arca. There's not all of his Hamanaka's would doing sit well at Harvard. I don't know. There's something deeper about being here in Tulsa, Oklahoma than in places that you would naturally assume Bob Dylan's might go, it goes back to this idea that this is a civic product. He sees himself as being part of a continuing. What about being a role model for so many of the people who are doing music today, not a role model? What are you? I'm just me. Why is it? You feel that your music or the us has meant so much to so many people being inspiring all that's been. All that's been the Bob Dylan archive story number ten in our series. The keepers was produced by the kitchen, sisters. Nikki Silva, and David Nelson in collaboration with Samuel Shelton Robinson. Jim McCain Olivia wear. Nathan Dalton and brandy Howell, thanks to Ted Savary's for his additional music special. Thanks to all of the Bob Dylan archive, who opened the Michael Chacon Mark David sin Benton Halen to the Kaiser family foundation, and Tulsa community foundation, Ken leather stepped Doyle and St. Fagan's to Dina MacLeod, the Woody Guthrie center, and to Glenn or a wits. Thanks to the helmet center for American research at the hill crease museum where the Bob Dylan archive is presently house, and we're big red tanks a waiting to suck the oxygen out of the air should fire strike in. To protect their remarkable collections including one of the original copies of the declaration of independence, the articles of confederation and one of the largest collections of native American art and artifacts in America, along with the Buckton archive special. Thanks to George Kaiser and the Kaiser family foundation for their visionary, work on behalf of city and deep devolve Dylan for your pack rat. Unim- made me on this. The kitchen sisters present is part of radio topa from PR ex a curated network of extraordinary podcasts created by independent producers. We wanna tell you about one of our favorite radio, Pierre shows the truth, they've just released a five part series called the body genius. It's dark comic mystery that winds through a treacherous fictionalized Hollywood, where looking the part might cost you your life. You know how sometimes a famous actor has to get really jacked to play a superhero in a movie. Or lose a ton of weight to play a prisoner or a psychopath, or put on fifty pounds, all of a sudden into play like a dad. I'm evan. I'm a Hollywood trainer and I specialize in that stuff actually if I'm being honest. I'm one of the main guys who knows how to do that kind of thing. A few days ago, Wesley stern an actor that I was helping to get huge for an action movie called immortal cop was found dead in my private Jin, crushed inside, a high tech weight machine even worse the cops think that I had something to do within now I need to clear my name, somebody out there, killed Wesley and I'm going to do whatever it takes to find them. The final episode of the body genius is available may, thirtieth binge all five parts on their website. The truth podcast dot com. Radio. Ex.

George Dylan Bob Dylan Tulsa Dylan Oklahoma Bob Dylan center Bob Woody Guthrie George Kaiser George Kaiser family foundatio Woody Guthrie center America New York Nikki Silva United States Samuel Shelton Robinson Michael Chacon Mark David sin Kaiser foundation Harvard