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The NFL's Nice Guy: Russell Wilson

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19:59 min | 1 year ago

The NFL's Nice Guy: Russell Wilson

"Hi It's Mike Greenberg get up. Wake up to the best story. You'll hear all day twenty minutes a day five days a week where you get an inside look at the most interesting stories at espn again as told by the top reporters insiders on the planet. The breaking news of Sports Center with the deep dive storytelling of thirty thirty. Today's episode is one. I thought our listeners would especially actually enjoy. Please listen and subscribe to Espn daily wherever you find your favorite podcasts Russell. Play fakes steps back as time still surveying field now he rolls now. He scrambles now he's GonNa throw to the back of the endzone another other. MVP caliber performance. One of the League's most overlooked superstars now in his eighth season. Russell Wilson seems like he's been around forever and yet yet. There's still a sense that we don't know who he is today. We explore what makes Russell Wilson Tick. And I'm Dominic Foxworth filling in today for many times. It's Friday January third this is espn daily presented by Indie You're a small business owner and there's nothing small about what you do. That's why Dell small business technology advisers give you trusted advice one on one partnership in Taylor Tech solutions like computers with Intel core processors servers storage networking plus thousands of top brand electronics accessories and software. No matter your technology needs Dell is here here to help your small business do big things call eight seven seven buy Dell to speak with advisor. Today that's eight seven seven by Dell and welcome. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it so I'm excited about this in part because I'm getting a replacement and that's awesome but we're talking seahawks and she loves the SEAHAWKS. I'M GONNA hold this over her for the rest of our life that I got got to talk. Russell Wilson and seahawks without her on her show. That's GONNA sting. I'm sure they'll tune toy is a writer editor editor for ESPN. Have you spent time out there before. It was my first time in Seattle. Actually had this weird moment at the car rental where someone sort of half dared me to rent a seahawks green colored car tonight indeed drove away in that car and and then kept encountering that color that particular shade of green all over Seattle. It was a bit of a mind bending experience you were up there to write a profile. Vile about Russell. Wilson was the season for him in some ways. It's been a strange echo of his two thousand fifteen season. I think he finished that year. The last seven games with like twenty four touchdowns and a pick and lost to Cam Newton. Who had an insane? MVP season and this year Russell started started out. The team was headed to. He looked for all money like the MVP. And then Lamar Jackson for lack of a better way of putting. It became Lamar Jackson and kind of sideline stuff russell had been doing. And then of course the team has sputtered in the back half. They've lost three of their last four games. So it's been a strange season. But in some ways he's vindicated the the seahawks took on him and making him the highest paid player in the League. Yeah I think he has seven fourth quarter. Comeback wins the MVP caliber season. You put on top of that. He became the highest paid player in the League. Though there's some really impressive Russell facts but are there any other them leaving out that impress you. I think the biggest Russell fact doesn't come from anything this particular season. It's the fact that he is the winningest quarterback over the first eight seasons of a career. That's the most salient thing about him. Russell wins a lot of football games and he manages to win them in various forms. This season the team team is extremely rely on his playmaking. Offensively and here he is. He's the playoffs once again. But he's also been able to do that as a different type of quarterback early in his career as a quarterback who was sort of managing a team that was defensively dominant and dominant as a running team. No matter what situation you put Russell and he seems to be eh winning. And I think that's the most important quality in a quarterback as impressive so he's one more infers eight years than anybody. That's all the greats that we talk about but in your piece you said. Somehow he's still remained slept on. How so I think? Part of it is Geographic they don't ever say directly but you know every once snow while someone will mention something about being in the Pacific northwest so I think part of it is sort of geographic isolation part of it is the fact that the impression that was left early in his career that that team was characterized dominated by the Legion of Boom Earl Thomas Richard Sherman Kam Chancellor. That is what people still you think. Russell Wilson is you know a sort of under study in a team led by those guys And that's not true. He has been for the last half decade in an elite phenomenal quarterback. Ross takes the shotgun snap. Well it's frozen now that is essentially just him. It's more clear than ever. Just how great he is. Yeah I mean he was a big name in the league from the time where he wanted a job that we didn't expect in the win and his rookie year and it seems like he's a person that we know a little bit about. He's you're not introducing him to the world through this MHM But when you went out there what were you hoping to learn why think to get back to your question. You just asked another reason. He slept on. Because I think people think Russell Wilson is is corny and there are many reasons for that spend ten minutes on his instagram. And it'll become pretty clear to you but I think he. He's slept on partly because of the impression he leaves that he's a bit of a cornball or lame or Pollyanna and I went to Seattle to see for myself. Yeah I mean. That's the certainly the reputation of his persona is that he's all those things but like religion plays into that also. I don't think religion plays into that so much as it is the driving the sort of generating force of that impression in terms of my faith. That's the number one thing in my life and I'm so grateful every day every morning I wake up you know. My goal is to try to be the best one day and it's it's a blessing to be here and just play play. The game of Football Russell is old school. He leads a prayer service for his teammates. He will just say these beliefs that I think. What's the word I'm looking for here? Old School the one you said before. I think that's a fair. I mean I understand why you'd be cautious about Santa but I think it's a fair word. I think all studies suggest that that the younger people are less religious than as a society. We're moving farther and farther away from religion but he is intrinsic but how does he show this in his daily life and the the things that he says and the things that he does what about him makes it so we know because everyone in the nfl all the players like many of them. At least thank God in God is they pray before Games. It's not unusual to have a religious player. What about the things that he carries out and the actions make it so that kind of characterize him as unique in this world? Well I think some some of the stuff goes back to what you might describe as cringe-worthy or embarrassing public statements for example about being celebrate with his now wife Sierra during during their courtship. The kind of thing that even. If you're doing it saying out loud strikes people as an odd decision to make but for him. That's commission of his faith also. He is continuously resolutely positive his language. He relies on a series of mantras That if you spend any time observing Russell become very very clear. He says the word belief and believe more than anyone. I think I've ever encountered in my life. You know if if you really have a really have a dream you've really believe in something if you really believe in yourself and believe in something what you stand for. It can go a long way and his teammates can echo this to you. They can and tell you the things that they hear from Russell. There was a big reaction to his Mike up after the Vikings game because some of the things people heard like unwavering belief unwavering language was so startling to hear not just that you hear someone reading on their team. That's not uncommon but for him to be sort of soothsaying. I'm saying here in this weird way for him to have these mantras that he's repeating and saying all the time and reinforcing with them it has that religious feeling to that it kind of leads me to a a two part question actually. Is it effective on the team and you were there for a long time. I did it. have an impact on you. The heart of the seahawks hawks is three players. Russell Wilson Bobby Wagner in K.. J. Right all of whom have never played football anywhere else in the NFL except in Seattle for Pekao how it comes down to the team through them and so I think one of the ways you can see. It is the fact that they win. A lot of close games. Veteran teams win win. Close Games traditionally right because they know how to navigate those waters. They've been there before they stay calm. And I think you can see from Russell that he exudes that kind of calming influence over the team by just telling them over and over and over again in various ways. You're okay we're GONNA be okay. Oh Oh in two thousand seventeen. There was a picture that went viral. And I have to ask you about it because I still laugh at it to this day when I see it. And it was inconsistent with the the Russell Wilson there we all thought we knew it was twenty seventeen and he kinda was dressed like a nineteen ninety s rapper. He had like a baggage Razzie in a do right. What was the the deal with that? Why believe it was a bet to sort of rep the money team during the Floyd Mayweather fight? He's wearing a black T.. The MT hat. He's wearing dangling Jesus piece he's throwing up the west coast. Sign both hands the way you would do it when you were eight years. Sold I guess. And he standing next to Richard Sherman who is stoic whose arms crossed and it was looking every inch. You know the coolest person you've ever met and so- counterpoise against that Russell looks extremely corny. And I'll say this it's one of the few times where I do consider him corny because it's one of the few times where he's playing to someone else. He's playing to an audience. He's he's watching himself off be watched and you asked me earlier whether or not being around Russell and the positivist had any effect on me if it made me reconsider what I think. Think of as Corny in a way because I I ride at the conclusion that he's not really corny because whatever he's doing or feeling he's not doing doing it for my benefit he's not solicitous he's not needy and that goes authentic to you that seems authentic not all of us to some degree are concerned learned about how we present ourselves but the persona eight presents is as close to the personality actually is. Yeah his teammate cliff. April told me that you can't fake the funk for seven years that's how long he's known Russell and I think that's probably true or even if it's not true even if you can't fake the funk for seven years habit is character so whatever russell is doing however Russell's moving through the world that stuff is coming from within him. It's not for anyone's benefit. I don't think Russell Wilson is interested or preoccupied with anyone else's conception of coming up up. How Russell Wilson lease the seals with a different style at ESPN daily? Were covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits. That will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills tests that help candidates show. They're the perfect hire for. Are you post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions and exclusion supply so interesting because some of the players said the. The culture in the locker room was hostile under the Legion of boom era. Now the culture in Locker Room I guess would be considered fun. How does Russell Russell fit into all of that? So I think tight end Luke Wilson who was drafted by the Seahawks in twenty thirteen and played five years there. He said to me the team he walked into in two thousand thirteen was. Does you know led by aggressive big personalities like Earl Thomas Richard Sherman Etcetera. And I think this seahawks team mm-hmm feels much less tense than that. Russell's role in that is leading by his sort of one line may refer to him as consistent as Hell Tom. I think it's the preparation just like always been doesn't change and I think that consistency that belief and and being consistent allows you to play a high level. I think just preparing airing just making sure that I'm taking one thing at a time going through my checklist and looking at all the things I need to do like. He's he's the same player all the time on Game Day at practice. He's always saying the same thing he's always doing. The same things and that gives people Teammates an example to follow after I asked MP Carol at one point. Because Pete is sort of very plain spoken about the idea of it. Football should be financed should be having fun. What Role Russell hasn't that it said to me? You know. I wouldn't describe Russell as the fund maker. which do a bunch of laughs from the assembled journalists and? I think it's true. I don't think Russell is a guy who who who's like the life of the party. That's not that's not his role. His role is just to be the same person all the time. He's he's the one that you know what you're GonNa get from him everything how you think. How do you see this playing out going forward with Russell becoming a bigger and bigger role on his team? I wonder if he's WRO can get any bigger better than it is right now. To be honest I mean. They've bet the farm on him they've made essentially a financial exchange Russell's big contract in some extent Bobby Wagner contract in in exchange for a series of pieces. They've let go over the last couple of years Sherman Thomas etc and so he is the franchise quarterback back in a structural financial way. And I think he's the perfect conduit for Pete Carroll's philosophy and the sort of tone and mood peak-hour wants around his football team. You Chuck you juxtaposed the Seahawks Culture and team and Carol with the Patriots Ballot Check and Brady y compare those teams. I think it's always sort of hovering there barely spoken and in some ways outright spoken I got to. It's been a couple of minutes at Russell and Seattle. And he brought up to me sort of unprompted he brought up Bill Bell Check and compared him to pee Caro. He compared himself to Tom. Brady and I think the Super Bowl. Aw and the the way that the way that game ended mention look rose inside then the way it still haunts the team of that era. The two teams feel so different. I I love to imagine a League where it was has the Seahawks who dominated the twentieth century and one of the Super Bowl because the patriots make it seem so dour so joyless they handle it in such a way to give the impression that they think they are doing the most important thing in the world and it's extremely tedious to be around that and the the seahawks are the opposite of that kind of feeling. It's not football as a sort of total leising way of living for them. That's just the thing that they take pleasure in it. They love to do that. They do you very very well. But they don't have to make the rest of US miserable. Personally I think both teams have overachieved bit. This season is culture. The reason for the success. Yeah I think in in the way that Brady is or has been for most of his career that sort of perfect conduit for Bella checks worldview. It's the partnership with the top between the franchise quarterback in the head coach which one side of New England and the other side in Seattle. That makes that influences the way those two teams play I think for the seahawks. The way it works is the experience that Russell and Pete bring to the table gets to be transmuted into this young team through the fact that no one is ever ever being as Luke Wilson Sesame. There's just not a lot of negativity around here and I think that's an environment that young players find it easy to adapt themselves into. But what are the downsides perceived or real downsides to having this as easy going fund type of team if you WANNA take a sort of critical view of it you can say that they are perhaps not facing reality by the fact that they are sliding into the playoffs having lost three or four games. And Pete just sort of dismisses it right. We'll talk about it. You know. The status wiped clean part of that is typical football. Speak but part of that is again a refusal to allow how for the entry of any doubt any bad feelings and again. That's specific. I think to Pete and to Russell and the way they want to handle things because there is a way in which you can motivate a team by having them running scared and Russell Wilson Pekao seem not to want want to do that ever. How does that translate to winning the well for them? I think it allows young players to forget bad games very quickly coach. Dave Dave Canal said to me that the younger team gets the latter Russell's voice gets and the more supposed to take on his personality and I think one of the things that you see in their young players is that they don't feel stressed out of control when things are going wrong and moreover when things are going wrong able to sort of forget quickly and keep going to take. We'll SONIAN phrase. The belief is waiver. I asked Russell near the end of my time Seattle when I got to sit with him I asked him. Someone walks into a room. And they don't like you what don't they liked about it. And he sort of stopped in his tracks and and took a second and then he ultimately said I just try to please God. I don't really worry about what other people think of me. Russell doesn't seem to care how he seen and I think upon close observation. That's not corny. Any released its core in a way that I find palatable great reporting it was really fun piece used to read felt like I was back in the locker room. Appreciated thank you. That's story for today. I'm Dominic Foxworth Surf E._S._P._N.. Daily don't worry I mean is back on Monday.

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BK welcomes Kalyn Kahler

Broncos Daily Podcast

37:32 min | 6 months ago

BK welcomes Kalyn Kahler

"There will be no death by inches. This is the broncos daily podcast with brandon krisztal. I want everything i want. All the meatballs and pasta heavy tuesday broncos country. It's worth noting that. I was planning on putting this out on monday. And i had technical issues like you wouldn't believe and thankfully they will get a new version of the editing program i use but had to interview kaelin taylor who you're coming up in just a little bit on zoom and then part of it was all jacked up and i couldn't do anything with it and i couldn't put out the other parts of the podcast around it so we're not putting it out as you're listening to it here on a tuesday morning so i wanted to have around for international women's day why won't ever on in general planned on it a couple of weeks ago and then she was out in colorado Skiing or snowboarding last week and so this is as good a day as any will yesterday did and so it ended up being a fun conversation and we want a bunch of different places. She's working for a defector media. If you've listened to the podcast for while you've heard ceylan on she worked sei bleacher reports some really good features. In fact i always encourage you to go check out her work. Especially the peyton. Manning won about how you kind of had his fingers and every pot and drew lock piece to that she did maybe last offseason. So we'll hear from kaelin and just a little bit. But today is the official franchise tag day and to this point. Only five have been filed with the league. The jets and marcus. Maye that's good for them because their roster is terrible keeping at least one player they're under contract. We know about the broncos injustice simmons and we heard yesterday about washington and brandon scherf the pro. Right guard the box and chris godwin. That is good for shack barrett. That means he's gonna hit the open market whether that's to remain in tampa or or go somewhere else. And you would think that he'd want to stay in tampa the money's right And then jags and offensive tackle cam robinson. The former first rounder big fella at auburn. So those are five. The one avoided is dak prescott and actually. I've got a blog post on our website. About what that means for the broncos all it really means is that dax agent todd france who is also just simmons agent can now focus on justin getting his deal done and i said last week when the broncos put the tag on just and then i thought it was a formality and i expected he'll be done maybe by the end of the week if not sooner because i think that it will get done before the start of free agency But props didac on himself. And when you look at the terms of the deal and you see that it's four years one hundred sixty million and seventy five in the first year and one hundred and let me double check the number but i wanna say one. Hundred and thirty of it is fully guaranteed or is basically fully guaranteed. It's it's really really remarkable. That doc was able to not only on himself. Hold the cowboys. We'll call it sort of hostage. Hundred sixty four million to one hundred and twenty six as the guarantee have all have all the levers even coming off the ankle injury and now the cowboys have their quarterback for the next four years. Which is what doc wanted. He wanted a four year deal and he gets a four year deal and he's gonna again in a state with no income tax. Get seventy five of it in the first year sixty six a signing bonus that way they can spread the money out and make the the cap work. It actually brings a cap down. I think fifteen or twenty million probably but by doing that as bonus. I think i saw instead of it being all thirty seven. Count against the cap right. He gets his annual salary and then the percentage is a they split it up. Some people could make the case. It's kicking the can down the road. The broncos aren't usually a team that does deals like that. We'll see if there is anything related to von miller and a new contract or if they do something or or some sort of extension that puts a bigger bonuses year but gives them cap flexibility. If they need it they may not need it. Is that sounds because the the broncos are going to pay justin simmons somewhere between thirteen fifteen million and based on how they sent up that salary to some degree i guess in terms of his bonus and his cap hit that could be spread out for a number of years here under the contract and you eat a little bit each year in terms of how of how it affects the cap but get a little confusing to the cap versus cash cap ratio and. That's where i think you'll even here. Kaelin say i remember back conversation but the cap is is more guideline. It's a malleable number to some degree. At some point you do have to pay all the money at least involve guaranteed money and that does count against your cap but the broncos are in really good shape with having ruled that money over at the same time you know. They have to figure out what they're doing. With shelby harris. They have to sign some sort of veteran backup. I think it's going to be andy dalton or jacoby percent and kaylin. I talk about that a little bit but Especially because i didn't know that dax deal was gonna get done. What does that mean for. Any dalton. He's three million bucks. I didn't know when when we take seriously also in. No trent brown was gonna get traded and taken eleven million dollar. Pay cut to go play for the patriots. When he could've could've forced his way out. Mike florio said and had them cut them but if they train them somewhere else and they would have been stuck there under that deal so he said you can't put a price tag on happiness. I guess you can. It's eleven million bucks. And here's the thing about playing in new england. last time. he was there and he made. I wanna say pro bowl or all pro and then was the highest. Paid tackle in football for a while. He got that after playing with tom. Brady they do not have tom brady. And new england right now sell something to keep an eye on. It's gonna be a busy few days here. Leading up to the start of the league year starts on time. I did see nowhere if the league doesn't send out the actual salary cap that they have to delay the start of the league year by a couple of days until they get to that. Get to that number. So that teams can figure out their exact budgeting. So we'll we'll see how it all shakes out but kaelin kaelin defector media at kaelin keller on twitter. She's easy to find. And and and a good follow at k. a. l. y. In is how you spell her first name and then her last name k. h. l. er at kaylynn kayla on twitter from defector media longtime with si and bleacher report and here is my chat with kaelin kaelin. I have a rule that you're happy enough to follow. I suppose whenever you write about the broncos. I'm happy to get you on the podcast. Hurry to get you on whether you're writing about drew lock or peyton manning or whatever it may be but i reached out a couple of weeks ago because you're making this jump defector media and then i saw that you were in colorado schemes. I don't wanna bug you last week. But now that i got you here i want you to let our listeners know what is defector media and why should we be checking it out. Yeah it's awesome. It is a group of writers From the old deadspin. So if you're familiar with Deadspin it's a group of writers from there about eighteen writers who All quit deadspin in the fall of two thousand eighteen After they had some issues with new ownership that took over that was being really protective and and specific about what they could cover and what they couldn't because they do a lot of sports they also do a lot of culture and politics And really really just anything that they're interested in they'll write about and this new ownership was being really restrictive in what they were allowed to write about. And you know it was one of those like awful private equity firm so all these writers quit deadspin at the same time after one of the editors was laid off so they all kinda quit as a solidarity movement and after quitting. They decided they were all going to get new jobs and they decided. Hey let's try to make our own website that we own together where nobody can tell us what we can write about what we can't write about and nobody can come in and buy us and change the vision and lay people off. Because that's what happens. Everywhere in media i mean. That's what happened to me. At sports illustrated we had three different owners in the time that i was there. And even when i was freelancing at bleacher report they had an ownership change and there was a ton of lay offs and everything change and was like okay. Now what am i doing. So i've been through this a bunch of times and i've only been in media fare like Almost six years. But it's really not been that long. I've had so many ownership changes so these guys were kind of in the same position. They're like we want to be in charge. We want to create our own thing. We want to create our own community. Our own website So they did that and They had their business director. He actually quit his job at bain which is like a big consulting firm and he was a big reader of deadspin and he reach out to them and was like. Hey if you guys want to start something like let me know. i can help you. So they took him up on that offer and they start their on site so we're totally subscription based all of our revenue is coming from subscriptions. We don't do ads really they've done. A couple of different ad deals but nothing major and when you go to our website you won't see any ads. It's all subscription and so that's our main revenue and we all are co-owners in the website. So you know it's very democratic. If someone needs to be fired just like vote on it and you know nobody can come in and you know as i said before. Take control of what we are so it's really cool independent. We own it You know we have a really core dedicated audience and a bunch of subscribers in the business models actually doing really well so i they started hiring about you know a month or so ago. The announced they were hiring. We'd be two months ago. And i don't think oh my gosh. This'll be awesome to work for them because they all seemed really happy doing what they were doing and i loved. I used to love reading deadspin. So i was like. Oh this we so cool to work with those writers and you know the business models doing well enough that they were in a position to hire so we're hoping like this experiment will work and we've certainly seen sports fans are willing to pay for good content. That's why the athletic exists. And i know that they've obviously had to deal with some of the cutbacks and layoffs in in the pandemic but still some really good writers there. I think an coz monitor here who covers the broncos coming over from the nuggets. He he does a good job with the athletic. And you don't care about athletic rides necessarily vol. Who was on that beat before him. I know you know. she's With the washington post now. And and got i think a lot of people to read the athletic here in in the mile high city. Dvr sports They do a good job having a a writer assigned to every team if not multiple and and doing great podcast so people will pay for for good content. I guess i was able to click on your alvin. Kamara story where he goes snowboarding. And maybe you were inspired because you were in the mountains as well. But i was able to just click on that so i guess are some free and then others you have to pay for. I think it's like for us. I think you get a certain amount of free articles on a month. I think you may get four. And then after that it starts charging. So i don't think specifically like there's a strategy of what goes what stories go behind a paywall. I think it's just okay. You read four now. You're done now. You have to pay. So i think that's how it works. But you know the nice thing about the way. Defector works is no one's tracking how many subscribers individuals are driving. That's not really not a fair thing to track anyways because you know if you went to the website and read something i did and then you read two more things that someone else wrote. You know who is responsible. It's all of us really. So and i know there's other places that are subscription based at really closely track that of light how many subscriptions or writers are driving like. That's another good thing. is you know. There's no like standard of my. Gosh you're not driving enough subscriptions this month like it doesn't feel like that at all. It's just let's do the best work that we can. You know it's motivating because we're all part owners of this thing and that sounds really cool because one of the parts about working really anywhere but certainly for media company is. I mean you go from northwestern to sports illustrated. And i remember my whole life. Sports illustrated was the gold standard in in sports journalism. Certainly as a kid As i was really getting into reading about sports i would take my dad's sports illustrated's and he had boxes of them and i eventually inherited that entire collection. I wish i still had it and in some ways even though you can obviously get stuff online but it was the gold standard. And then you see what sports illustrated's become. You weren't bleacher report as well as you mentioned. That's had ownership changes. I had a few in its time as as a company. And what socks is that. You really good work regardless of where you are. I guess we had the same thing happened in radio. It doesn't happen as much and it didn't almost ever happen in tv. But i know people who worked at radio stations. Where one day they were talking about sports or talking about whatever and the next day they're told hey it's a country station now or hey this is a. This is now a latino station. And we're playing basically latino music so thanks for your time. We'll finish out paying what we owe you and we'll see when we see so the somethings are out of your control and i guess if this goes really really well then you guys will be in a place where a big by get right exactly and then. We could make a lot of money if we were doing well. So you know it's possible to do good work even when you're ownership is changing around do you just kinda have to have tunnel vision and just keep doing what you want to do. And that's kind of what i had been doing for the last eight years but it is really nice to know like i could just do what we can do whatever we want to do. Because there's no one who is determining a we have to pivot to video now. Everything needs to have a video. You know all that kind of stuff like we don't. We're not going to have to deal with that because we're just gonna do what we wanna do. Our readers are looking for and that's really nice. It's kind of like this utopian idea like media. I think so you do a great job. Writing features mentioned peyton manning drew lock among others and the first defector. Piece i i read that i mentioned earlier. Alvin kamara snowboarding. In montana last week and i was following along on on twitter and then sal masekela who hosts the x. games for a million years. I tweeted at a tweet where he was reacting to kamera being being different and look. I'm from texas so my snowboarding is very limited. Not the people from texas can't snowboard. I'm just not very good. I've got a wife who raised in college. And so i can go be crappy on the snowboard. These i'm watching the kids and having a beer and let her ski with with our older one because they're both demons on the hill. But i understand what it takes to be good and and to get it and this is just another example. See when alvin kamara did of how we are different than the rest of us because the stuff he was doing. You're not supposed to be able to do on your first or second day. And then that's what. I tweeted to sow was. This is different. This is showing you. What's different some. You know some guy that either follows me or salads like bob what. He's just hitting a rail like yeah on the first day. You're not supposed to be able to do that. And i know you talked to some experts as well about camaros athleticism performance. Snowboard is first time out. Yeah attacked an olympian. The twenty fourteen olympic team is trying to make the next olympic team. Taylor gold. I think he lives in breckenridge He was like look. I mean he was going really fast which is impressive on. Its own like his speed in his fearlessness. We're really impressive. And he's like you know if i were to give him some tips. I'd say you know. Start carving a little bit more instead of just sending it straight downhill because you are gonna wipe out at that point. But he's like the most impressive thing to him was that alvin lack looked comfortable like his stance i mean. He looked like he knew what he was doing. He looked like totally balanced. And it's on one hand. It's really not surprising because this is an athlete. Who if he watches highlights if you watch them play at all he always demonstrates a really elite level of balance in his game so it's really not too surprising that he was able to translate that to mountain and snow at a snowboard. But that was kind of taylor's takeaway it was like. He just looked at home. And you don't really see beginners like demonstrate like that type of style. On their first time. I did notice in your pieces yet. All the kamera tweets he also had sean payton head coach. Reacting to camaro. Snowboarding reminds me. When i used to see guys that you're familiar with live in chicago. Brian lacquer devin hester. They'd come out here and snowboard. And i used to always think well this could definitely be a potential violation of the contract. If they get injured now. I will say this knowing. Plenty of people who've snowboarding that hurt elbow wrist. You don't hurt your legs as much. And i've known skiers of torn their acl certainly more than than a snowboarder has so maybe to a calculated risk But something that. I know that sean. Payton while he trusts alvin kamara. That's his highest price asset. Once they figure out the degrees Contractor whatever it is but shifting gears to not. Just allan cameron snowboarding but with everything going on here in the offseason. We're starting to see names trickle out. The bets are going to be. I think we're gonna see one of the wildest really week we can have maybe even into the new league year. We're going to see players being released to make cap numbers work or whatever it may be so as somebody who covers the league's close easy do and has the relationships. You do what what is sticking out to you. What are you looking forward to covering or what's the most interesting thing that you think is gonna happen here. In in the coming weeks maybe months. Yeah i think it's gonna be really interesting. There's probably going to be a lot of action coming up before march seventeenth here So yeah. I'm looking forward to see what happens but i do think there are going be a lot of a lot more important players. Maybe we normally see getting cut. But i also think they're gonna have to just end up signing maybe shorter term deals for less money and hope that maybe next year they can cash in But i also think like the definition of the salary cap is. It's sort of imaginary thing like yes. You have to be under the cap but there's so many ways you can do that by you know working out your cash over cap situations and i mean a creative general manager can structure these things in so many different ways so i think almost maybe we're expecting too much from it because i do think there's a lot of ways that if you wanna keep someone that you can even though the cap is going to be lower and i also think that ito has the ability to raise the cap Because they were going through those tv negotiations just recently. So you know that could still come out technically that it's higher than maybe we think it was going to be but yeah i mean i think general managers have a lot of ways. They can do these things so i mean. I'm almost more interested. In just kind of monitoring the quarterbacks that are potentially up on the trade bloc like russell wilson and to shawn watson and seeing if anything is going on with those guys and you know whatever happens prescott is going to be interesting also So i think those are sort of the story lines. I think are the most interesting. What's gonna happen to these quarterbacks. And that's exactly where i wanna take you was. Qb's in denver. Until the shawn watson is officially a member of the texans for good or another team or even russell wilson and seemed like the rumblings. Get louder and louder until those guys have a new home. I think that the broncos will continue to at least be in the conversation certainly. That's the way a lot of people in broncos country. Thank even though we've seen where drew lock was mentioned when they talked with the lines in new. Gm george peyton continuing. He'll be in every deal. When there's a deal to for participate in so a lot of. That's going to be on the texans or even seattle. But that's why. I want to go with these quarterbacks which one is a better story. Let's say only one of them were to move. Which one's a better or more interesting if if it ends up coming to pass that that one of these a franchise. Qb's obviously russes. seventy years. Older than to sean. But if one of them actually does change teams. Well i think shine is obviously the most interesting but i almost feel like russell was the most likely and i think a lot of people would disagree with me but i think a couple of weeks ago i would have said. It's not in like a russell wilson trade head any lake at all and like it was all talk but after last week's report that the seahawks were taking calls about him You know that kind of made me think okay. Well somebody offers enough. Somebody offers something that they find attractive than this really could happen. And you know there's plenty of teams that are desperate enough to do so including the ones that run russell's like short list of four different teams. So you know that seemed to have a little bit more leagues to. Because you know a couple months ago i was asking around about Destroying watson was hearing from quarterback needy teams. The texans weren't even entertaining any conversations about him. And i think that's still the case there so you know eventually john wants to make it traded. But i just think that one's gonna take a lot longer to develop and i think not that russell wilson one might happen by next week but i feel like that one because there's actually conversations being had seems like it's a little bit more likely. Yeah and i imagine that it's a bit perplexing to seahawks fans. Now he has. I believe a potential out next year where they wouldn't have to eat as much money so maybe it is a an inevitability russia's going to change teams whether it's now our three hundred fifty or sixty five days from now give or take before next year's league year and and if they were going to make a move they might make it sooner. But what what do you think. How do we get to this point with rusty and i heard him on dan. Patrick i understand. He's been the most sacked quarterback in the last nine or ten years. Some of that. I think is on him but how did he in a city that loves them in a team that he has been the most important player on that team now for a decade. How they gotten to this point a couple of things. Well i mean the one. He's been most vocal about recently is a offensive line and and feeling like he has taken too many sacks and take it too many hits and he does have a point bear. But you know the devil's advocate would argue that. His his own style puts him at risk and a lot of those sacks aren't necessarily on his offensive line there more on him but that's really a gray area. It's hard to you know unless you're actually his position coach or you know exactly what is supposed to be taking place on every place a little bit hard to make those come to those conclusions on your own without knowing exactly what was supposed to happen on any given player. What his reasoning is but there are critics of him would say that he does it to himself and it's not even necessarily the talent of seattle's offensive line as much as he would make it out to seem so the teams to be part of it and then you know i also think this happens to a lot of different players and coaches and we saw this happen with aaron rodgers mike mccarthy at some point they just kind of hit a wall in their relationship and you know aaron didn't feel like he had any ownership of that offense and mike lewis mad because aaron kept changing his plays and they were just not an agreement came to a point where that relationship was not going to get fixed and so. I don't think it's unique to russell. Mp carol her unique to russell in that organization. But you know it feels like the relationship. There may be a crossroads where russell feels like. He didn't have any input in the offense last year or he did up until a certain point. And then you know. Pete decided that things weren't working anymore and went back to the old way. So i think that's really the heart of it and you know it's not unique to seattle. This happens other places too. Sometimes you just kind of reach a point where you can't really work with someone anymore. So what was funny. Though was his agent mark rogers. Let's adam schefter know the teams that he would be willing to go to and like stealing dan. Patrick's line that He said on his show that this is like going home to your wife and san. Look i wanna stay together. But if you're gonna leave me then. These are the four women that i'd like to start dating so Why the cowboys. I get although. I don't think anything's going to happen there. Because i i do think deal get worked out with dock one way or the other And then why the will the saints are a no brainer to me. Because you come in there. They've got weapons. The sean payton offense. I get that the raiders little. I mean th. They're line is being picked apart one by one right they they get rid of now both guards. It looks like trent brown could be on the move. Sell all of us still make sense plan for grooten in that offense you got darren waller you got the receiver and Henry ruggs third. You got a nice running back and josh jacobs. And and stud left tackle colton north. So the raiders. I even get to some degree. And it's ironic franchise in vegas but the and you know. I'm not trying to pick on you because you're in chicago from chicago. But i don't get the the bears thing. Alan robinson their best pass catcher may not be back on defense. You get khalil. Mack and roquan smith and those guys could end up being a part of a trade potentially so explain to me. Why why the bears are on the list. I have no idea why the bears around that list. I sort of interpreted that as like a cry for help of leg how serious he is to leave. Because if you think going to. Chicago is better than playing in seattle. Like that's how bad it is for you. That's sort of the way i read. It is like okay. That doesn't make any sense at all so he must really be done. And that's why i'm more inclined to say he's going to get traded because he seems to be quite serious. Although he hasn't requested trait officially everything else he's done an particularly reporting chicago on that list has really made. It seem like he really wants out. So yeah i have no idea. I being i guess matt nagy isn't okay coach. The first year they had some interesting create play designs. That did a pretty good job with masking. How bad mitch. Trubisky was so that I don't think he's a bad coach. But i just don't really. I don't know that he is the premier offensive. Mind that russell. Maybe thinks he is another reason and this was on twitter the other day but i can't remember someone from espn like reported it on a radio. Show i can't remember who was but they said his reasons for chicago. Were one matt nagy as an offensive mind and then too they have an emerging offensive line and then three the city of chicago and obviously i agree one hundred percent with number three is place to live great place to play but number two is the nicest way to describe that offensive. Line that i've ever heard like they had so many injuries on that line. And they had all these young players who had to kind of step up and sort of figuring out. And i do think that a few of them do have potential to be quality. Nfl starters but to say it's an emerging offensive line was like the nicest way you could put. That said i don't really get it. I suppose you could be a free agent. Draw to some degree at some point and you draft weapons around him The final again doesn't doesn't really move the needle. I guess you could say this l. jay cutler was okay. They got the most of them. Trubisky gets into the playoffs. I guess kinda twice. And then jim mcmahon was certainly the quarterback of the eighty five bears. But they really haven't had a true true franchise quarterback since it lachmann. and so. maybe. This is of michael jordan. If russell wilson comes to town and becomes the biggest athlete in in the history of the city of chicago russell is literally spirits quarterback right now that there ever have been without even being on the team. He's the best bears quarterback so that would be. I guess draws. I really could be the most important player ever here if you know if they were to win anything but i just don't think there's enough and i don't even think you know not only is not enough for him on the offense to come here but there's not enough to trade. I mean he could treat all the draft picks that's fine. They can offer whatever draft capital. They have for the next three years like debts. And maybe that's enough. I don't know but they don't have a quarterback to trade Mischievous free agent. Unless they want to treat nick foles typically they could. I don't know that seattle would be interested him but You know they don't have like a young quarterback to offer in return. Somebody who's on a rookie contract. They don't have that and they don't really have any young defensive players. I guess you could pay smith. And maybe if they were to package khalil mack. It could be enough. But i just don't think if they're going to have competition. I don't see how the bears would win that. Well that's the point that i've made as it relates to a potential to shawn watson trade or even russell wilson trade is. That certainly seems to have the best draft capital. The jets are the number one team on that list have five picks here in the next three years in the first round plus their seconds and then if they wait until draft day they can win. The draft starts whatever's. I believe they can offer the fourth year out first round pick. So then you have six number ones miami. Picking at three so where. You're not factoring in though is when teams like whether it be carolina with christian mccaffrey being thrown into trade denver with drew lock and potentially bradley chubb. Maybe jerry jeudy or someone like that. And i'm not saying that that's what they'll do but we'll see we're even san francisco. What if they throw in nick both. That's how you win these trades. It goes beyond just offering updraft capital maybe at his age draft capital be enough if the bears offer three number ones and they look at that roster and say you know what russ's okay but those will be decent enough picks to be able to to work with that. That's where where seattle goes i. I'm curious so you know i. I mentioned the broncos written about drew lock. What are you hearing on a national level. If if anything about what. George payton's up to in are people even paying attention to the broncos are only if they were to actually make a splash with one of these. Qb's i'm yeah. It's a good question. I haven't asked around much about the broncos recently. But i think they're always interesting until they figure out their quarterback situation just like chicago and i think too like. I don't know we've just seen so many unexpected quarterback things happen already in. Its own at the start of the new league year yet. So you know anything could happen and leave. Seen you know veteran quarterbacks have success in denver peyton manning before so you know i think they are definitely relevant in terms of what is going to have an aunt quarterback. Where do they pick in the draft. I can't remember their picking nine carolina's right in front of them at eight so in the quarterback market. What does that mean. And even with philly. jalen hurts. Who i think's gonna be a franchise. Qb of i've come out and said that on thing that i've done with draftkings it's not going proclaiming it. I just don't think he's going to be there so we'll see what the eagles end up doing. Because they could six go for gin plus you got to look teams that that might trade up right. Yeah it's going to be. It's hard to predict like these quarterbacks are going to end up in. who exactly is going to do it. because there are so many teams that the need that are in the position to draft atlanta carolina carolina's. Definitely going to be doing something. Though i think they. I don't know they were rumored to be going wanting to go all in under shawn watson but there's been really no action there so yeah if i mean if if russell and dish on aren't traded before the draft that adds a whole other layer to it because you don't really know you know that's going to take some teams out of the quarterback draft market if it does happen if it doesn't happen than all these teams who need quarterbacks are going to have to decide okay. Do we like the guys enough in this draft class or do we want to wait and see if we can still make this happen with You know either. A free agent or trading for somebody leader. So it's really interesting. But i just don't think the as far as quarterback free agents go. Nobody's really enticing. Except possibly cam newton You know if you were an and probably jacoby That's another one will he. I believe he's a free agent this year. I mean he's probably has the most potential. But i think he might be the name highest on the broncos wishlist At least trying to read the tea leaves and there aren't a lot of signs that make it that easy to read but percenter andy dalton again depending on what happens with dak but even at three million bucks is can he fit under the cowboys gap. Do they do they Let let them walk in and is he a potential target. Now think that guys like that are looking at the broncos and saying well there is a chance to start in. There are weapons there with courtland sutton coming back from injury noah fant jerry jeudy and you go down the list and we think we can beat drew. Lock out and one name. That's been rumored to denver. Although i kind of looked into it and then i think the agent was just talking about other players and and also fitzpatrick's came out and then you see reports that maybe he's stepping away ryan fitzpatrick i. I think that he still as good football left. And then you see another report says no. He is planning on playing fitzpatrick. A name out there and if you need a guy that can help you win. He might he might actually be the best option. Oh yeah. I don't think he wants to retire at all. I talked to him right during super bowl week and he did not want to quit. You could tell. I asked him directly. And like unless you had a whole chain of heart in the last month. He definitely wanted to sell play. I think we've covered it all so kaylin. I always appreciate. You are with your time. And i am urging everyone to go. Subscribe to defect your media. Defector media dot com read where she covers the league from a storytelling perspective as well as anyone in so Always great to catch up with you on this international women's day. That wasn't planned. We've been talking about this for weeks but It was kind of perfect to get you. Thanks so much. For everything at kaylynn kayla on twitter and i had to write about the broncos are not. Hopefully we'll give you a reason to write about them but talking to you again here real soon. Thanks so it was able to overcome the technical issues and really happy with the new and improved editing software. That i have that i was able to acquire and get working today so going to try to bring more podcasts. This week still hoping to track down shaq barrett. And i imagine he's a pretty good mood now knowing that he's not getting franchise tag and knowing that there's going to be a nice market for him he could end up as is paid. Pass rusher in football There's a chance that does happen. I know that it's going to be a down year. But he's hitting the mark. It's always good to hit it at at a certain time when you lead the league in sacks and then you're a big kita a super bowl victory there's going to be a market for shack pets so hopefully we'll track him down Looking to try to get in touch with that word or two he said he'd oddball with me as well as on. Bk's happy hour so plenty plenty to get through this week and then next week ten obviously a crazy crazy week so i appreciate you rolling with me Make sure you got friends. Looking for a good broncos podcast let them know out the podcast and subscribe. But we will catch you next time. On the broncos daily podcast.

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Pete Carroll & Dr. Michael Gervais on Russell Wilson & Importance of Staying in the Moment

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

27:47 min | 1 year ago

Pete Carroll & Dr. Michael Gervais on Russell Wilson & Importance of Staying in the Moment

"And now move the sticks with. Daniel Jeremiah and bookie Brooks. What's up. Everybody DJ Bucky here. move the sticks. Bucky how you doing. Man I'm good. I'm good finishing up a another good week, a lot of football. Conversations that I've had not a lot of news, but just a little. Yeah one. One thing I'm looking forward to on this episode. Really the most majority of this episode is going to be our conversation with Pete Carroll and Michael everybody knows Pete Carroll format coach. Super Bowl, winning coach of the Seattle seahawks and somebody who's culture is is investigated and studied by coaches all across the landscape. If you've heard his podcast with Steve Kerr Steve. Kerr talks about when he got into coaching, he went there and spent time with Seattle. In one of the things that makes the culture so unique, and so special is the influence and presence of guy. You've known for a long time, but Michael Javale. Dr Jehovah is one of the best in the business. A high performance specialist does a really good job of teaching guys to practice mindfulness. He's really had a lot of impact on players on coaches. High level athletes, high level executives does a really good job and I think their connection is unique, but I think when you listen to them, you hear them to speak out of the same voice. Yeah, almost wonder if you're if you're. In a professional sports organization and you don't have somebody. In that role is kind of that high performance psychologist I. Think you're missing out. I mean I think it's a tremendous resource for your coaching staff as well as for your players. Dj. This goes. All the way back is really personal for me. Because when I was an Undergrad Carolina we had Dr Richard Coop, who was a sports psychologist who work with a Lotta Golfers. Him Not only as an Undergrad, but after that when I was in the national football league, and then also a guy who impact me a lot. When I was, a student was Dr Joseph Silva who was also a sports psychologist, and he worked closely with Anson dorrance. Who was who still is the head coach of the Women's soccer team? They won a million national titles, and so I'm a big believer in having someone who can also train your mind. because I've seen the value I've seen how impacts your performance in your ability about back from tough moments. Well forgive me for a for pushing this Ford, but there an example that you can give people. People what they would do that could help a player when when you're in college. Yeah, so when I was in college like the night before Games. doctor Koop would kind of sit me in a room with a handful of other guys, because you've worked primarily with punters and kickers, but we've been dark room and he was the visualization process, and you're. My can't distinguish between real moments or imagine moments, and so if you can train your mind to see these big plays or these positive place Adnan when they kind of happened in game is almost like Deja Vu, so we would go through this routine where you get comfortable and relaxed, and you're basically. The game out the night before the game happened. So you visualize yourself making plays having all the success that you want to have, but you also see yourself having struggles, and how you coach yourself through those moments, and so from that I just kind of learn how to deal with those moments in the one thing that I took away that kind of teach my son in others. He would always say imagine. There's a trash. Can hanging over the back your right shoulder. So when there was a bad play, he would actually have you go through the act of ball in that. Play up and just put it in the trash can. Put it in a trash can and we'll go to. The trash can at the end of the game, but it allowed you to be able to move on to stay in the moment so lagrue deal with all that other stuff after the game, but right now let's just balled up. Put it in the trash can, and then we'll just continue to play, so it was one of those things they can help me play through those bad moments. That's fantastic. How about in terms of being able to help with some emotions? Guys struggle with that being able to kind of control their emotions and kind of stay in that even Keel and stay as as you're going to hear in this interview, the importance of staying in the moment. Yeah so. We always had like a powerful word. You hear like marathon. Runners or people talk about having one word to kind of brings you back to focus, so we become what we were so strong strong could mean anything, but it's a when our break the huddle. I'm going to be strong in mind and body and spirit like whatever does things, are so he? He would give you. Certain clues could take to kind of bring you back to Senate. You to put you in that moment which you could be at your best all right well, let's let's get to this interview here I. Think you guys are GonNa? Enjoy this again. y'All know Pete Carroll but I think you're gonNA. Love Listening to Michael Survey Dr Michael Jordan. and His perspective on things, so here's our conversation. We had with Pete Carroll and Michael. Javale. So excited to be joined by the Premier High, performance psychologist Dr Michael J. as well as Super Bowl winning head coach Pete Carroll Guys I want to get into this new project. You guys have been working on here in just a minute, but before we get to that I. Love the No from both you start with you. How you guys came together and how you guys I met years ago, we were introduced by mutual friend and shoots A. We've been together eight or nine years or something by now. We've been together a long time. Down in Los, Angeles and we. Talk the same language in on on the topics of Sports, psychology, and performance and things. We just Kinda hit it off in so Mike joined us. In has been helping me for years China. Put together ways to help guys play their best in we've. We've had a great time doing a great partner. Excited about this project right now. Thinking this project? WHAT DOES THE AUDIBLE PROJECT COMPETE TO CREATE? Essentially compete to create is the combination of coaches genius where he has a clear system in a clear idea of how to create a culture help. People become their very best, and then my lane, if you will is to help people who want to be the very best train their minds to condition their minds, and what we found is we've got five four pillars that we work from ranging from self-discovery mindset training, and essentially that is what compete to credits. I. I love guys. You're going to be able to access that July. Ninth AUDIBLE DOT com slash compete to create. You can pre-order it right now. Would fantastic project I wanNA get both of your opinions on this one I'll start with you coach. Mike if you could follow up but coach, I always hear you talk about authenticity. You talked about it when we're around you scouting at USC back in the day you talk about it now with all the success you've had with the seahawks when you think about having mentors and somebody like yourself who has a coaching tree and Belichick has a tree, and Shannon has a tree of coaches beneath them. How do you balance supplementing what you've learned from other people to help you without substituting and changing who you are well, that's a that's a good challenge. You know the the first self discovery. Process is so crucial here because you know who you are, you got what you stand for and all of that and the the people that we've experienced over the years and we you know we've coached with joined with learn from. You know they just they have become a part of the myself and that what you know what I think, and so through the process of working through what really is important to you what you really believe in where you're on compromising principles live You know I think you come to. You can come to an agreement with yourself that this is what represents, and then then it's the practice of staying on a regular basis coming back to the same themes in the same, the same approach with confidence in a good belief. You can. You can withstand the challenges where people are. Taking their shots at you, that make you have to hold onto what you are. Who you are and I think that practice. The with Mike is always helps us understand. In the sense of where you come from is really powerful, and so it's it's a fantastic. Process that we go through. And then he got hold on to improve on a daily basis and one of one of the core elements of being able to be authentic is to know exactly who you are. What are your guiding principles and that part of the discovery work is actually quite rare. In, without it, we get whipped around by the stressors of the world outside of us once you know who you are. The most powerful thing about it is, nobody can take it away. Situation No circumstance. It is your essence of who you are, and that becomes such a powerful mover in the world that right now we're being called to say okay. What are the core principles that guide your thoughts your words in your actions, and can you be about? In common environments in the most rugged hostile environments, and if you can be about it, because you've changed your mind to be able to deal with the stressors of the world, that is an authentic person who can travel anywhere across the planet in any boardroom living room in any part of the world, and authentically themselves, and so it's a combination of self, discovery and psychological skill development. Michael have conversations with you I wonder what Kinda Piss out to Pete and you. Because you guys have been apart of a Greek culture, there's been establishing Seattle you talk about authenticity and being yourself the one thing that I noticed when I watched the seahawks. You have a combination of guys with different personalities, but they really play a team as a coach. How do you get that? You can allow your gas to be individuals, but still understand the bigger part of the team concept. It's really important for the starts with me. Being really clear about what I expect. You don't have a style in formula that these guys can recognize. They know that they're constantly in touch with it as we go through the process of in meetings and all that we do in the game. And stay connected to it. They they buy in. They give themselves to the to the program. And then they find I think this to the success in the fun that we have it, it's it feels right to them, and so they give themselves to the process, and they're willing to adapt. The the individuality at times to become part of the team. The thing that we've always celebrated is the uniqueness of our players, and we want to identify that bring it to the surface and hopefully allow that to come into their play. I think through that process of US caring so much about finding their best They're willing to do whatever it takes to be part of it, so we've had a great sense of loyalty. We've had a great connection. There's been a feeling of brotherhood about the time. We've been together in something that we really cherish, but you have to earn it by what you give to it and how what you bring to it and so. The we're always looking for those elements that make up the passion and the first appearance in the Canon resilience that we need to program. These guys have been fantastic. We had a blast. The key word is celebrate their uniqueness right, so it's not a permission, or it's not allowing, or it's not US leading, and that's a language that we often hear reflected back like you let people be their best. It's a fundamentally. It's a fundamental error in the in the approach. It's a relentless approach to say what is unique about you. Let's celebrate that. Let's put you in positions where you can express that on a regular basis, and that's an asset based approach to development. and. This is a developmental minded program that is relationship based, and the essence of it is. Nobody can do this alone. Nobody can do the extraordinary alone. It's stupid. It's too too much to get your arms around from one person, so we need each other on this journey this this journey of football in life, and so to do that. We're asking people say. Let's figure out who you really are. What makes US special? Let's celebrate that as often as we possibly can. Coach. You're so known for your energy and enthusiasm throughout throughout your coaching career I being with the Philadelphia Eagles and Andy Reid with talk about energy. Being skill, you know having guys that could bring energy juice and enthusiasm to your team when you're evaluating players to bring into your building. How does that factor in in terms of some of the personality things and just overall energy that you get from? Some of these guys is certainly a factor in particular when it stands out, but not everybody is like that some people just quietly they keep to themselves and all that we don't expect everyone to be on board with being outgoing gregarious, and all of that, but we do have a staff that is very much that way, and so we will pull that out of people. We would like to think that we could. If somebody's got some juice, and then we might be able to get a little bit more. My, pulling out and drive from them, but. It is all part of the makeup I think probably the the competitiveness part of it is the most important element that we're looking for. They really have that that chip on the shoulder and they got something to prove, but when we find it, we're certainly we'll champion, but it's the same thing. WE'RE NOT GONNA try to make somebody something or not, so, but in in we do have a variety of can make up some. Steam altogether. Coach the common denominator that I hear you talk about consistently is competition, but one thing that I've always admired about. Your team's going back to Sei. Seattle has been a development of players gas who may have been unheralded? But somehow you guys get him in the program and they begin to play at a higher level. How does how does that happen? What does the developmental process happened for your gas? Well, it's it's a really big deal to our staff We're a developmental staff and that means to us that we're going to go with a guy as far as we can. Can possibly take him with the highest of expectations that we can establish with that individual until he's not there any longer, and then we just go to the next guy that shows up being on the the coaches are going to try to make everything they can of this opportunity with the kid they that's kind of what drives us as individual coaches in as staff, and in that, you're always looking towards the positive you always towards the future what somebody could become and with that thought we will not back off and so You know our guys you have we use? Language and terminology and self talk about our guys we we really want to constantly build them to what they could become as long as they're with us, and we're dedicated to that we can join each year and revisit that Olson then we know that's we're developmental. Step for those purposes. Mike I want to ask him about Russell Wilson you? You've had around him I was knows I'm extremely well, but the two things that stand out to me about Russ going all the way from when he was coming out of Wisconsin to what he's become there, it seems like he's been able to kind of balance having that disciplined routine that he goes through, but also having a growth mindset of trying to find new ways to do things better. How how is that balance that? Of those two things. There's as humans. There's only three things that we can. We can train our craft. Our Body in our mind, and what you see in Russ is what the tip of the era performers tend to reflect is that they're not leaving one of those three up to chance so training and conditioning in relentless way to become your very best does require a deep investment in training craft body in mind. The Science of sports like policy is saying. Saying Hey, listen. We have studied the extraordinary words. This is how they used their inner life, and these are the mental skills they built. How often it is a skill. Being calm is a skill. Having deep focus is a trainable skill. You can do sets and reps with all of them in the best of the best day are not leaving one of those up the chance. Peed as a high school coach I. Am here in La like I've always looked to you and the way that you kind of interacted with your team and the way that you ran your program and one thing that I've admired is your ability to kind of stay in the moment, it never looks like the moment is too big for you or your team. How do you teach that? How do you practice? How do you model that for your players? I love that observation because I would like to be noted for always being in the moment. That's being mindful in teaching mindfulness in standing for, but it's but swimwear net because you have to practice mindfulness. If you're going to be good at it if you're gonNA be in the moment, you gotta be comfortable with that type focus that it takes to be there and be present. So, we are constantly trying to put ourselves in position where we recognize here's an opportunity to be centered right and with that thought we do it so often. It becomes normal test we look in. We set the stage. We look forward to that the tense moments the finishing opportunities with a practice mode and try to get to where we develop toys were we can stay focused, and we can execute right there down to the very instant that it takes the finch. Challenge and I'd like to think that we practice finishing. You know better than anybody does in something really important to us so that we have the that is a skill for us in, so we have a mentality to enter into those kinds of situations that we've been there a lot of times before and so. That's where the confidence comes from. You know that you can handle the situation. The elements aren't too much for you. And you believe in the by just keep doing the right thing. The the success is gonNA come our way. There is another element to that. That's you gotTa have. The perse organised outlast people. You got it last longer than they last do it right and so that's something that we were part at the end. I hope that's what you see and when you're comfortable. And when you are confident, you are having fun. It has better. You are more open. You are more outgoing. That's we don't want to be inhibited knows that's the last we want to be fully flow and ripping and going in when whenever that chance comes, so we try to practice those opportunities as much as possible. Just like anything else. You got to practice the skills to develop. Fully flow and ripping and gone love ever. and. Sound like snoop dog, mustard. Lucky what I love about your observation is that one of the core elements of people being able to live their most meaningful life there. Most highest performing life is the ability to be in the present moment. Most people with an uncondition uncondition mine as soon as it gets hard. They checked out and they start thinking about what could go wrong, and that's because that's how our brain is designed to protect us. What coach is talking? About is a frontloading of mental skills training so that you can live in the present moment more often independent of the conditions, and then secondly if you can figure out a way, and this is what coaches created amas culture to help people. People love when it gets hard because that's where we figure out you know. What are we really made up? That's what an approach to challenge is really about do. We Love Challenge? Are we afraid of it and his teams love challenge I coach I. Know You have a meeting I. Know You need to run so before you go. I've long wanted to tell you this. I want to apologize because in one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, five Pacific dropped football, and I think it was because I was scheduled to come on a visit two weeks after that, and when they saw what the future of the quarterback position looked like a Pacific. They said we're done. They're out. Apologize. Tigers based on that I can't believe. To know that. I can't wait. Jeers I'm hard. It's hard to imagine your talent was obvious that it could destroy program Bolivia did. I know you gotta run. Thank you so much for your time Mike. It's been great visiting with you spoke so highly of you for years. It was great to visit with you. We appreciate your time and don't forget everybody. You can find the audible original. What a cool concept! HERE COMPETE TO CREATE! All you gotTa do is go to the website. AUDIBLE DOT com slash compete to create. You can pre-order it now. It'll be out. July ninth as you can tell by this conversation, some fantastic stuff in there for you, so thank you guys so much and I look forward to catching up and down the road. They sit good luck. I bucket. We teased it. We sold it and I think it lived up to the hype there. Too, great. People having a great conversation and look going all the way back to. When I just started coaching I was at Notre Dame might have been two, thousand, eight, two, thousand, nine I want to say. Pekar wrote a book win forever and in that book. He kind of talked about all the things they can lead him to build his philosophy in those days, and then the fast forward later. To meet Dr Javale in those guys being in lockstep with how they build a culture and a program, and how they can get their players on the same page when it comes to staying in the moment in developing that competitive mindset, I just love. That do into see this success that if had individually collectively and then with the seahawks. I think it just validates all of this stuff today been talking about and I think Michael as a nice connection point to between Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. He does so much work with Russell and it's look it's well known that Pete and Russ have very close relationship very tight relationship and I think there's kind of the third member to that to that relationship that I don't think people realize from the outside that Michael J. is kind of a nice connection point between those guys. It is a nice connection. Point and I think. He is Kinda helped Pete. Understand how to allow his team to kind of be the true authentic seals individually while also building this collection as a team and I think that's something that's very very hard to do because we're used to those mentality where everyone is expected to total on the same way, but Seattle MP Carol, Dr Javale they've been able to create a culture where you can be yourself within the framework of a bigger thing, which is the team last takeaway for me is just. I think the value in having somebody that's coach. Collegiate level a lot of these coaches. We have in the NFL that workup to be head coaches. They start off as quality control coaches. In the NFL, then go to position coaches, coordinators, and eventually become head coaches several. These guys have never even coached in college. I think there's a tremendous advantage. If you spent time at the collegiate level as a guy like Pete Carroll did because the development you have to do with those younger players you know eighteen nineteen years old to be able to grow them as players. What an asset! When you guys at the NFL level because I think some people assume that they're already developed, that is not the case. I think Pe- Carol. There's a great example. Jim Harbaugh as well. I think the expires in college. Game forces you to have a little more adaptability and flexibility in terms of how you develop players. What you see in identifying players the systems that you put in place. I think Pete Carroll been able to tap into that all college mindset and do something that was of unprecedented and the pros. He basically ran a college program and the NFL level. When it comes to developing players out players being able to have kind of a ready reserve of players that are ready to jump in and big moments to feel prominent roles. Their developmental program has been second to none when it comes to their. Late round draft picks. UNDRAFTED players have been able to really emerge s star players after the League as afterthoughts their job and he discussed it was to get the most out of every single player for as long as you have them, and then once they leave. The new guy comes in and the new challenge begins. How do we get them to their fullest potential I think having a guy like Michael Jovita there. To help is key so. That conversation. Hope you guys did as well one other item on one hit on before we get out of here I thought it was funny. We were texting back and forth because I think it was just the last podcast, right? About practice squads and said Hey, you know they oughta make it twenty like just put twenty guys practice squad, not having to bring guys in for workouts because that's going to be a dicey. And now the report comes out I think it was in rappaport and. WAS, Garafolo or Are came. They came out and said. Sixteen is the number that's been thrown out so I think we're a little bit ahead of the curve on that one. Maybe not the full twenty, but I think sixteen good start year sixty s a gray start. Here's what I want to see though I wanna see because the way they have the practice squad eligibility have broken down in like four categories. The guys without an accrued season. You have gas you have. They played it crew season, but they don't have. They haven't recent maximum number of games, and then you have gas who have to exemptions? Yeah, you give veteran exempt nail back. were, they add a veteran exemption, we talked about like the third quarterback, and maybe a defensive player, but if you give me one more veteran. To go with thirteen younger guys I know thing that I can be creative, and how I utilize their practice squad in Dj if I am like. If I'm getting this information now. It also changes the way to stockpile that practice squad roster the way that we practice in training camp the way that we put those guys I'll going to be very careful with who expose when it comes to the guys that are also WanNa have on the practice squad, because to be a practice squad member I gotta cut you then resign you will. That is the case. I'm definitely not playing you I'm definitely not putting you out there for the public to see I kind of have a different way a covert operation when it comes to how we want to stop my practice squad i. I think it allows you to different players at different phase of development process thing about the minor leagues for Baseball. You have triple a which leads right into the major leagues. Those veteran guys are going to be kind of your AAA players like they're ready to come in. If they have to fill in for a couple of weeks, guy goes down with covert or injury whatever they can be ready to go. You're gonNA have some AA. Guys that you really like their talent. They're not quite ready yet, but you're also gonNA have some rookie level players that you can afford to take on a project. Maybe it's somebody international. Rugby player whatever you're going to be able to stash some more of those types of players when you have sixteen, th spots on the practice squad. Good announced. You've been talking to many baseball, August. The fact is you were able to take the practice squad and make like a MLB farm system that is ingenious but I I think you're onto something because if you talk about the tier system that you can create the AAA AA single day. I think that's a great way to look at it and I do wonder. How many of those doubly AAA players do you have and? And how many slots do you lock to those Rookie Leagues? They're single. They players that you know a look. It may take a year to before they actually ready to give the game able to contribute. Yeah, but could be a worthwhile project. all right That's going to do it for today again. The TV show every week. You can check that out Thursday six PM Eastern. Great show this week. I think you guys will enjoy hopefully. If this has an air yet. If you listen to this right as this podcast comes out, hopefully, get a chance to catch the show. If not, you can catch us on their late later next week. Also you have some baseball. Show's coming up. We spend a lot of time talking to you know general managers, coaches, players former players analysts. and. Did it some fun crossover episode? We're GONNA have to baseball episodes that just show team building, and how it can connect from the baseball world to the football world bucky. I think people will get a kick out of those yeah I think they will get a kick out of it. It's really exciting to Do the crossover stuff because I love picking up rings of those who? Who are building teams in other sports because I think there is something to learn, even though the sports a different now, so be on the lookout for those coming out in the next couple of weeks all right? That's going to do it for us today. WanNa, thank you guys so much for checking us out and We'll catch you next time right here on. move the sticks.

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Hour 1: KD's Return

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40:39 min | 5 months ago

Hour 1: KD's Return

"What's up everybody. Welcome to i take. It's wednesday. i'm very happy to be back here with you guys. I'm charlie aren't we got max kellerman. We got stephen. A smith in the house and stephen act hold on. I know you have something you want to get to before we talk about the net so flurries your i want. I want to get to this. Max max yesterday. We were on a i take. I want to start off. i take By by You know i really. I'm torn because on one hand. I wanna apologize to the folks from espn dot com. But i also am starving to get the idiots on social media. Actually you know. People actually took me seriously when i was talking about how dudes at espn dot com. Who came up for the twenty-five top twenty five hundred twenty five lists. They would take me seriously when i was talking about people needing to be tested. Which is something. I say all the time. I can't count. how many times. I've said that. I can't count how many times i've said that other analysts who've come on the show when i've disagreed with some somebody people have got at me with my a list and other things. It's all part of television. It's what makes television fund. And i was just having a good time and then lower behold all over social media yesterday in some other places people were literally looking at it. And then you're talking about bobby marks and others who put together to listen. Basically saying stephen a. disassociates himself from folks and doesn't want anything to do with them. Stop i was joking around. I was having a good time. That's all i was doing. I certainly didn't mean to cast any aspersions on them. The guys over there doing exceptional job. I know them. I've seen their work their work all the time a lot of times. We use the subject matter that they write about to create topics for espn. Or i take in various other shows so of course we have profound respect for them and what they bring to the table and for the record. Let me say that offers. I haven't spoken to any espn executives. Anybody about this kind of stuff. They know better than coming at me with something this trivial i just felt the need to address it. Because obviously i've seen stuff on social media. I took the liberty of speaking with agent. rousey lasts. Who does a lot of work and knows a lot of these guys. Obviously he's the ultimate insider. I appreciate it his perspective. I respect the hell out of him and what he brings to the table. So i just wanted to take a moment to make sure to apologize to those guys at espn dot com also. Make sure everybody understands. I'm playing around. Do i like the list. Hell no. I meant what i said about the list. I disagree with them. But everything else i was saying was just fun. They could have come on. I take and debated it with me. Hell they still can. They are more than welcome to do. So it would make good television. It would be a lot of fun. That's what we is that's what we are. Espn the entertainment and sports programming network. Sometimes people out south get that. So i just wanted to make sure to remind everybody and i apologize for any aps that i may have caused to. Those folks. Espn dot com. Because i certainly didn't mean it that way. That's what i wanted to say. Hey can i just say something charlie. Yeah i get it if colleagues. Maybe taking something the wrong way. Absolutely do what you have to do you. Shouldn't i mean. Are you actually sitting here. Having to explain to people social media that when you say some colleagues should be tested. You don't mean it literally. Is that where we are going to. This board disassociating myself from my colleagues have profound respect for who do great work for us. Clearly i was joking. I was just saying i disagree with the list but evidently people took it the wrong way so i just wanna make sure that everybody understands what i want to emphasize. No boss came up to me. Asked me to apologize. They know better than that. You've got to come to me. You come to me with that stuff. You'd better come correct. That is not the issue here. I'm just going to be sensitive to those who have found themselves in precarious situations because of my words when i was clearly joking around. That's all i wanted to say. Well you're an entertainer that's entertainer. That's what you do. You play some games but speaking of playing games guys seems like there's some games being played right across the river in brooklyn with the big three because we can never seem to get them all on the court at the same time and that is the case again tonight so there is some good news. Kevin durant is likely to return in tonight's home contests against the pelicans after missing the past twenty three games. There's bad news. Though james harden he's going to miss at least ten days with a hamstring strain. So let's talk about two of the big three in brooklyn maximum. Start with you. Who did he gets more critical to their success. Is it hardened or durant. The answer is james harden. I want to be very clear about this k. D. is the best player on the nets. Kyri is the most skillful player on the nets. The most important player on the nets is james harden. 'cause he conducts the whole or costa. He is the conductor. And if you like. James horton by himself can beat some of the best teams in the western conference at least in the regular season. This dude this year is showing a level of basketball genius. Genius when you see it. Right lebron james when we were kids steven a. Magic and bird the way they see the court but let me tell you something. Almost no one in the history of basketball. I'm trying to think of anyone who's combined james harden's scoring prowess shooting ability. Not just scoring the from anywhere with his level of court vision and on this team. Leadership larry bird but bird wanted to point guard birth. Not going to take the ball up every time right now yokich again. He's appoint center some some back core player. Who's been able to do it. Like james harden lebron. James lebron shoot like james harden. I'm not saying he's better than all those guys. I'm seeing. He combines it all in a package maybe we've never seen before and this nets team we tell you something kyri and k. d. I wasn't picking them to win the championship. I wasn't picking them to get out of the eastern conference philadelphia. Look the way been playing not the way the box with the additions they've made have looked recently. I wasn't picking them to get out of the east. But when you added james harden they were unstoppable with just hardening kyri. Now you're gonna add. Katie hardens the guy. Who makes this whole thing. Go their most important player. Max kellerman let me tell you something. Let me tell you something and not not. Not looking at me max. Look look at me and put me on that split screen and turn off these halas. What max to look at me. You understand what i'm saying. Mexico men tested. I'm about you about you. Should be tested. Used to be tested mexico. Are you okay with that. Are you okay with that. That okay said. I seen all right. That's just the way it is. Let's here's the deal. Y'all max kellerman. Let me tell you something. I would remind you that kevin durant missed the entire twenty nine thousand nine hundred twenty twenty season. Not just the season that was halted but the season that resumed that some in the bubble last summer in the bubble and ultimately causing this season to start in december that kevin durant that was out damn near eighteen months because of an achilles tear came. Back max kellerman and in the nineteen games that he played an eighteen games and he started because one game. He didn't start because they were telling them he couldn't play because a contact tracing and all of this other stuff then he played and then they pulled the front of the damn game that game and even with that included kevin durant is averaging twenty nine points on fifty percent shooting and forty three point four percent from three point range and by the way i might add eighty seven percent from the free throw line. This dude is lethal a marksman. He's a sniper extraordinaire. And i'm telling you something right now with a healthy kevin durant or rookie coach. That's never coached a day in his life. On any level in steve nash can win the championship without kevin durant. They might not even make it out of the east. That's how dramatic shift. It is but kevin durant being in the lineup. Compared to him and out of the lineup he is clearly the most important piece to the brooklyn nets now. Cari irvine is box office. He's a showstopper. You walk through the. Let me tell you right now if cari irvine looks you in the face and tells you he wants to play or gives the impression that he wants the play. That's all you need to see here to know. He's the greatest show in basketball cari. Urban is box office. You walk through the turnstiles to watch the show. He will put on. Make no mistake about it. And he's been spectacular this year james harden we know how big tommy is playing the best ball of this career and as far as i'm concerned as a legitimate top two league. Mvp candidate but that would not be the case. If kevin durant will healthy and kevin durant will play these these last twenty seven twenty eight games. You understand because we are talking about k. d. He's just on another level and with him. They could potentially be champions without him. They might not even win the conference. It's that dramatic shift and to me it's that simplistic to point to the fact that james kevin durant is more important than i'm not trying to go any shade on james harden who is spectacular again top. Two league mvp candidate. I'm just talking about where you look at the brooklyn nets and what the expectations are. The chip. The expectation the chip. And that's only because kevin durant is if kevin durant wasn't there met even with hard car re playing the way that they're playing you sit there and say they'd have a chance put nobody will sit up there and say the expectation is to win the chip k. d. Shift the balance of power that dramatically. Well i'll say this. I think k. D. and kyri aren't fevered to win the chip this year. If lebron dear healthy obviously any one of those three guys will put it over the top cause. Any two of those guys are already a whole lot and k. D. is the best player but let me give you. Let me give you some numbers stephen. I without k. D. playing just hardening kyrie. They're sixteen and three this year. Sixteen and three with with only harden therefore in to their twenty and five without k. d. but sixteen and three when harden has kyri win them see. I don't count harder all automatically question. I've got a question for you are you. Are you just want to make sure. I want to put the world on pause because this is news flash right here. Big news breaking news. Is max kellerman prioritizing regular season. Is that what you're doing now. You sure but it is some evidence we just saying. I don't mind like but you know how you if no i'm not. I'm not prioritizing regular season. I'm saying it's what we have to go by right now and i'm not positive. Hardened can get it done in the playoffs minute matters most. I need to see it. But he's trending in that direction and let me say this kyrie i said earlier is the most skilled like well hard and can shoot passes can do all those things. Put hardened combines it with a court vision and wisdom when to deploy those skills. That's different that's why kyrie new guidry smart because okay. You're the point guard on the off guard. He could see. The way harden conducts. The whole orchestra. Team is better off than kyrie can easily play off ball when they need to and he can score from anywhere and all that stuff is seven feet tall. So of course. He's the best player 'cause he can also do it all but he's not normally gonna initiate. Your offense. harden is the key stephen eight all three just harden and kyw read. Forget the seven footer. Who can do everything will challenge at least if not for the whole thing again. Sixteen and three hundred kids. You katie. i'm telling you right now. no one. It doesn't matter if the lakers healthy if the nets are all healthy. I don't see anyone taking them. Seven games in the nba. Well first of all captain obvious nobody needs soliloquy from you when it comes to talking to us about the skill set that involve james hardie kyrie irving and kevin durant. That's number one number two. It's nice to hear you say that. Kyrie irving smart. Because you've spent quite a few years questioning his intelligence because of his comment about the earth being let you never let it go. I'm just saying. I'm just saying you have to live with it for years but you did question. What am i going to go on you and your your wouldn't let it go all upset. You wouldn't let it go. That's number two number three number three. You talk about how to brooklyn nets wasn't even going to get out of the east because it s defense. I told you all the needed was marginal improvement. And you'd see and all of a sudden you've come around that's number three number four. Let me remind marginal said what we talked about the marginal. We wasn't marginal improvement can improvement. No no it's continued to improve but you jumped on the net bandwagon. What i'm saying half the marginal for i'm not saying it's only marginal improvement now but you jumped on their bandwagon. When it was marginal which. I told you it was going to happen because when you go like that you need to play stout defence all the top you can still get they can actually give up one hundred and nineteen points a game and still win. This is who they are and so when you look at it from that perspective understand. This is what they're bringing to the table in the end. The x factor is k. d. This do is that do. If you have him healthy you can win the chitwood harden and you could win the chip caray and k d. You cannot win the chip without k. D. would hard and curry. You can't do it. You're not navy with korean k. D. maybe maybe i don't think your odds are that much better and k. d. than kyrie and and based on what i've seen stephen let's not forget why wasn't playing. When just kyri and harden they went to the west coast. Shahida ios western copying shot on a road trip with just hardening kyrie sometimes no kyrie. You're shocking me here. You're telling me that the odds are not that great of a difference with harden and kyri compared to k. d. and kyrie. Is that what you're telling me that's right you insane. I wouldn't you know. I wouldn't pick kyri and k. d. to win the whole thing. This harding wasn't on this team. I don't think the nets win the championship with harden. I don't think they can lose. What i'm asking you a mask you. I'm saying. forget the championship. The second i'm saying stick to the art. Are you telling me that. The arts are literally slim in terms of difference between kharian hearted and kharian k. d. That's insane yes. That's an essay. Rowling you telling law. That's what you should be tested. You should be tested you you should. You should did you watch. What harsh and kyri were doing this year. I don't i don't care. I don't play. Offs is not the same day. Okay wait you know what. Oh okay well you got me there. That's assuming hardened continues to improve in the playoffs but based on the evidence from this season steven a. k. d. basically hasn't played. They have their late in the east. Hasn't got a difference for the lakers. Was anthony davis okay. Because you know what he brings on both ends of the floor particularly defensively you look at the greek freak. You know what he brings. Okay you look at the joker you know what he brings tell me one team in the entire world that has an answer for a healthy kevin durant. There is no answer. There is no answer zero team with hardening zero and there's no answer for car either. If he's got that kind of help there's no answer corre- yeah but you know why you know why because the guy asking the questions is harden. He's the guy with the born head which you're going to do about this. What are you gonna do about that. Step back three. Get to the line. Feed the right guy and also has the gravitas has the respect that you need to decide the flow of the game. He d that's coyotes. Guys getting the ball sometimes that guy. Sometimes it's gonna go to joe. Harris harden makes those decisions and won't be questioned because he's so masterful running the offense. You could say that all you want to. But when you've got a guy like k. d. who six eleven when seven six wingspan and can pull up from thirty on the regular. There is no answer for that. Lots of questions. Lots of answers. It's test time. Ladies and gentlemen guys get this. The big three have only played seven games together. 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I'm in counselling as a result of this. Sean watson's actions. I hope he knows how much pain on me emotionally physically and hope he knows how much pain he is on on these other survivors. People say that. I'm doing this just for money. That is false. I come forward now. So that does shawn. Watson does not assault another woman now. There was one other woman who came forward yesterday. She didn't speak personally to the courtroom. She ever lawyer read a letter that she had written in. Also something else. To note nike has just announced that it's suspending. Its endorsement deal with watson amid all of these allegations. So stephen a. What's your reaction to the latest. Well it just gets worse and worse is at a point now where this can't go away you've got twenty two cases or twenty two allegations against you That it's something that just cannot be ignored I think nike is taking the appropriate steps. Because when you have this. These mountain of allegations levied by accusers in the direction of your client then. Predictably so these kind of actions are going to be taken By the corporations that you represent And that's just as simple We want to say that. Shawn watson is innocent until proven guilty That certainly needs to be said in the united states of america. It's also important to point out that to my knowledge. None of these are criminal cases. All of these are civil. correct me. if i'm wrong there. Max charlie but i believe all of them were civil. None of them has been charged in he has he has not been charged and then he criminal case whatsoever so that obviously raise the red flag. Because if you've got these these these kind of allegations this mountain of allegations against you and not one single charges a criminal charge and the lawyers already on the record talking about how they tried to negotiate a settlement. But to shawn watson refuse it. I i don't know if it was a lawyer or the shawn watson both of them but clearly It has been revealed publicly That they try to reach a settlement and shawn watson refused and so we take all of those things into consideration and again You can you have to acknowledge it does not look good. You have to acknowledge. It looks very very bad. You have to acknowledge. The fact that nike and anybody else That in the shawn watson endorses if they were to drop their affiliation is associated with him. It's definitely apropos. At this particular moment in time how can you do business with a man that has twenty two separate allegations of sexual misconduct and some variety levied against them. There's no way you can do. Business with that person from an advertising or marketing perspective to question is what is the nfl going to do because the nfl has been conspicuously. Quiet in all of this and even though Again you're innocent until proven guilty. That has never stopped the nfl from acting. Before if you sully or impugn the shield that gives them course to step in and say okay. You might get your money but we're gonna put you on. The commissioner's exempt list. Here's where it gets interesting before. I hand this off to you max kellerman. There is no evidence whatsoever. That the lawyer mr busby. Their represents a lot if not all of these women. has colluded with the houston texas. I want to emphasize that. There's no evidence whatsoever even though there have been people that have thrown out those conspiracy theories the attorney busby categorically and emphatically denied such thing. But on the same breath. There are two scenarios that needs to be thought about number one if you detect since you've been conspicuously quiet and all of this number one number two not only have you been conspicuously quiet but this also works to your advantage. Because what team can legitimately go out there and trade for the show on watson. At the time that this is all going down the answer would be pretty much. no body. The flip side is is that if the shawn watson is put on commission as exempt louis where that works to his advantage as he doesn't wanna play the texans anymore according to him. But you still want it to get paid so you could be put on. The commissioner's exempt list. Still get paid. Don't have to play for the texans while at the same tom by yourself. Additional time to prioritize getting these matters resolved because clearly be playing. Football is going to be very very difficult thing for the houston texas. Anybody because the shawn watson cannot walk into a locker right now and talk about football. Nobody will allow any any place. He shows his face. The media is going to ask him about these allegations. And that's going to be all anybody wants to talk about this. No way that he's going to get away would be in inside of the locker room and not talking about these issues every single time. He's in front of the media. Which obviously would serve as a profound distraction to a football team. There is the presumption of innocence in our country. When you're accused of something but that does not mean that you ask people to turn their brains off and and listening to ashley soulless. If that's how you pronounce her name in that news conference if she's lying then or not telling the truth then she's in the wrong profession. She shouldn't be a masseuse. She should be an actress because she seemed credible and believable to me. That's one woman that we've heard from publicly. Speaking there are twenty one others twenty two and there's a tendency i think when there's someone is as liked as deshaun watson to give that person extra benefit of the doubt because when you hear shawn watson is being charged you don't wanna believe it first of all you don't want to believe that something bad happened in the first place and secondly not the shawn watson and then two and we also are sensitive to the idea that that The user is often not believed and often turns out in fact to not just be an accuser victim in fact so we're sensitive to that. Well okay you don't want to disbelieve. What's being said at the same time that you presume innocence and you hope that. It's not true shawn watson and then a second third and tenth and the fifteen twenty two twenty two even the strategy of bringing forth eighteen other masseuses. Who say no he did nothing on toward his behavior was fine. I don't know exactly what that does. It's you'd think to demonstrate that the shawn watson in a similar situation has shown not to do criminal stuff or bad stuff. Okay so but then the point seems to be there so many of them eighteen that contradict the other charge that the more of them there are the more proves the point really because there are twenty. Two who said something onto tour did happen so and it seemed to me to be the tactic of defense. That doesn't have a lot to work with now. That's all that's all kind of speculation on my part and and he is presumed innocent or not guilty and the burden of proof is not with shawn watson and he will have his chance to clear his name remember early on. He said he's looking forward to the chance to clear his name. But it's to clear his name twenty two times. And maybe more instances in that but with twenty two different women. I understand the ba- the steps that nike took and i would be lying if i said from my point of view. It doesn't look bad and worse and worse for the shawn watson. One of my favorite players stephen a. before all of this octave felt that sh absolutely but that can't cloud neither that nor the presumption of innocence can can cloud our judgment to the point where we turn our brains off. This does not mean he's guilty but boy to me. It looks like he has a big hill to climb right yes. He has an enormous hill to climb. And guess what. Max you know what because it's inexplicable it's unfathomable the most of us that you need twenty two different massage therapists and counting. I mean damn. I don't know anybody that's done that that that's a bit odd. That's a bit odd. Let's say that having said all of that. Here's the flip side to it. Even though this twenty two cases against him before all of this came about just a couple of months ago the shawn watson was considered an individual to have an in perishable reputation character. Squeaky his signature. I mean not as playing ability. Talk to anybody at clemson. Talk to anybody. Who's known him talk to his contemporaries in the national football league. On a collegiate level everyone raved about his character. And so that doesn't mean he's innocent doesn't mean he's innocent but what it does mean. Is that the presumption of innocence. Shouldn't be that far fetched in other words. Okay let's find out this probe. Let's investigate let's see what the facts bear before we jump to any conclusions because there's nothing in this man history that says he would be guilty of such a thing the flip side again to it that hey twenty. Two different massage therapist. Damn bro. i don't know any man had that not a man. I don't know anybody so with that. Being said i personally believe that. The best thing for the shawn watson and all parties concerned. It's the national football league to step in. Put him on. The commissioner's exempt list. Because people have been put on that list for less that way. He still gets his money he. He doesn't get to play for team he didn't want to play for anyway now. Obviously he can't continue his. Nfl career until this matter was resolved. But chances were you're going to be able to continue to do it anyway with these allegations pouring out against you so because of that put him on. The commissioner's exempt list. Let them get paid by the time to deal with this matter. One way or another over the over the next year. Meanwhile he doesn't have to play for the texas. The texas could find themselves another quarterback and he doesn't get to go to another team and compromise the shield of the national football league because we're inundated with these headlines about it. I'd like to know what you think. Real quick charlie. But that's what i'm thinking. The best order business is for him to go into. The commissioner's exempt list. Yeah i think that someone needs to make some decisions pretty quickly because this situation just keeps escalating. I mean just weeks ago we were having this discussion and it was started with a couple of lawsuits or a couple of women coming forward. The just continually climbs. And at this point we're at twenty two in like you said steven i get massages a lot. I have one person that i like to go to. I like their work. I think they do a good job. There's no way. I'm seeing twenty two different massage therapist so like you said. I think that's very odd in itself so it will be interested interesting to see what the next steps are. What the conversations among the t mark because like you said the team has been conspicuously quiet. Just this week. They sent a letter out to season ticket. Holders mcnair family said that they are definitely aware of all of these allegations and they said we want to assure you that we take these allegations very seriously in one thing i also wanna add. Is there have been all civil lawsuits but there also was a complaint also filed with the houston police department as far as it being slightly criminal. That might be an indicator what i was more. That's why i was asking. Hey joe what's your favorite podcast. Let me tell you why that'll be number two after you listen to by twice a week. I'm going to challenge you to keep up with me as i discuss. Topics from the latest in technology and music and people getting duct also get the very best analysis of the games and we watch it with the psychopathic level of store for connection. Plus we have got a community of guests that you'll feel like your closest friends in not listen to subscribe to the right time with bomani jones. Podcast wherever you get your pot. Yes everyone this exact. Check out my podcast. The low post where. I talked to people in and around the nba about everything going on in the basketball world. 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Are you buying wilson's commitment to the seahawks. Hell no no. I've buying that. He told carlos dunlap if dunlap says he said it. I believe him. I believe russell. Wilson's probably beating teammates in the head with all kinds of stuff since he threw them under the bus especially the offensive line. Look love russell. Wilson big russell wilson fan but you gotta call it like it is russell will if you are committed to a team is your agent releasing on the record the names of four teams you would accept the trade to on the record. This wasn't leaked to the press. This was russell wilson's official representative on the record saying this team this team this team we go there. Of course he presently. I'm not asking him for a stop. Saints cowboys raiders pairs. Means that means. He's sat down with his agent probably his life. I would imagine family decision right and went over everything carefully. Rosters cities this that the other power in the organization what it means for legacy all these business interests competitive interest and now down to four teams. There are thirty two teams. They went over. This team has a quarterback and released it to the press and now he's telling teammates what is he supposed to say he wasn't accommodated. Right pairs. tried couldn't put together a package. Good enough so he's there for right now. What are you supposed to tell your teammates and stephen. I'm not even talking about the defensive players. We also kind of one hundred bucks right. The defense isn't good enough. Basically the offensive line. Do you know the kind of conversations russell wilson has had to have since then with his teammates down his teammates that he's saying certain things that are leading them to believe that but stephen if they could work out a trade to one of those fourteen tell me to believe he wouldn't okay it today the. Why release the names. I don't think they're going to be able to work it out. That's number one. That's one of the biggest reasons i think. Russell wilson may have said what he said. carlos dunlap number one number two. I think that it's entirely plausible. That that russia was going to end up staying in seattle. Because he's one of the gift quarterbacks in the nfl he's a future hall of famer in case no one. I mean we never really really bring that up. He's a future hall of famer. The brother play forty touchdowns. Thirteen interceptions lash it completed. Better than sixty eight percent of his passes max kellerman. Do you notice. Russell was a russell. Wilson was sacked forty seven times last year. Do you know that over the last three years. He's been sacked fifty one forty eight and forty seven times. Do you know that in his nine year career. He's been sacked three hundred and ninety four times. Do you know that. With the exception of this with the exception of his rookie year he has never been sacked less than forty one time in the season. And that doesn't count the hips. And so when we take that into consideration he got tired of being beat up and he called out team because pete carroll clearly wasn't doing so pekair wanted him to be that savior look. Got rid of the legion of boom. We've had the franchise to you. You've got everything you wanted. That was carol's mentality and russell wilson's like hell no it. Ain't that simple. Because guess what. I still need to be protected before i do what i do. I can't be smothered and swamped and beat up all the damn time. He's got these trunks for legs max. He's short. He's not small people who think russell russell wilson is small. You're not paying attention or you need to get your eyes checked. Okay because this do right here is okay. I mean he's a big dude. He's a big dude. And so when i look at him and i listen to what he says guess who else was listening to what he said mexican. It had to bp. Carol pekair had to listen man. Pete carroll is not a dummy. Pk on a national championship at usc. P. care won a super bowl championship in seattle. He's been two super bowls as a head coach. Demand knows what he's doing over the last three years. Ten eleven and twelve wins. They've been moving up and up and up even though they only want one playoff game in that secrets. Bottom line is this. P carroll is no dummy. Mp carol her russell wilson do something russell. Wilson has never done which is call him out and basically said look out of here. If you continue to act this way. I have no doubt that in the time span that russell wilson spoke and we talked about what his future prospects by pete pete carroll met up with him probably apologized is listening to him more swears he is anyway and as a result. That's what led to russell. Wilson saying carlos dunlap. Y'all i'm not going anywhere. Let's go hawks. Because the coach is finally listening to his star quarterback and treating him with the respect and definitely serves say that russell wilson was handed the keys. They did get rid of legion of boom boom and it was smart because defensive players age out of their prime faster than quarterbacks and so they made a commitment to the quarterback paid him an enormous percentage of the cap back. Then that means you have to play hero. Something like you got to carry more of the low right that's why criticized carson wentz. You got paid like that now. Oh you've problems carry. That's why you're getting paid like a franchise quarterback russell. Wilson has one of the mistakes. The team made was. They felt like they could draft and get guys off practice. Squads whatever offensive lineman and coach him up and that was a mistake because the whole thing on the offensive line started falling apart. When they treated. Max unger right we have. Oh there goes jimmy. Graham tight ends really more bike receiver. We'll get him a big target and the offensive line kind of fell apart at that point but stephen a. They did a better job recently of devoting resources to the line into my it. Looks like the offense of line is played better and you could see the returns in the run game. But i didn't read a man so part of russell wilson's problem. Has he acknowledged. Part of his problem is that he holds the ball rest. Holds the ball plot in the downside. Abbey will again. You gotta have the personnel like get open and we certainly not accusing decay metcalf. Antilock not being able to get open but there's more to it than that and if you ultimately had you had a scheme and that was compromised because offensive line. Isn't that good. That's a problem now. The offensive line hasn't proved but it was still ranked in the bottom half by pro football focus. Let's remember that and so because of that that just shows you how bad it was. We're pointing to the improvement. But we can't pointed improvement while negating the fact that while improved you still ranked in the bottom half which shows you how bad it was for. They weren't great. Yeah the seahawks. Do not have a first round pick. They gave it to the jets for jamal adams but it will be interesting to see what wilson's effect on their latex. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Chiefs Get It Done

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Chiefs Get It Done

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Hope you all had a wonderful super bowl Sunday full house. My guys are here. Marcus Spears dinner. Lofty Stephen slipped left. Max Kellerman Molly Camrose. How we doing I love it? Hard to say hello to him. Nothing to be here great so you should put it on instagram right to take a picture. I celebrate our twenty. Let's get are you doing great. Are Ya know Marcus told you but I was in South Beach in Miami you know and Some some some gorgeous woman that looked about six expre- tall raised up and threatened me to stop talking. It's the day was a in here. Always people around I got. I got goals out here in the streets vein about bobby whispering later by now I literally was talking to her as she literally stood up. GotTa get they just like normal kind of person thinks your kids going to grow up to be a professional athlete Nano. Marcus Spears and his wife are going to have professional athlete ball players. Yeah Yeah no question. Best Athletes Most valuable athletes in all sports backs. The chiefs are Superbowl Champs. Andy Reid finally get that monkey off his back and Patrick mahomes become the youngest player with the Super Bowl and an MVP in thirty one twenty win over the niners rallying his team back from a ten point fourth quarter deficit. Here's reaction from both slots about never giving up. That was the biggest thing coach. We kept giving US confidence. The guy's head believing and we took it one time and we've been in these situations all postseason guys never give up and found a way to get the win. I told them that coach another twenty years. If I have that group right there man there there were a beautiful bunch resilient tough tough minded dirty tough-minded as you saw tonight so I'm so proud of them tough loss at the main. It hurts everybody room. Losing a super bowl. We had opportunity to win that and we came up short uh-huh starting with this guy. Did the chiefs win it. Or the forty niners blow it forty nine blue this game make no mistake about it. I would take a moment to give congratulations. I've known for twenty years. I was coaching Philadelphia. Working the Philadelphia Inquirer. I'm sorry why he was coach of the Eagles props to him. Congratulations to him. And congratulations to Mahomes. ooh Just obviously wasn't as great as game by any stretch of the imagination but give credit where credit is due. I just want to show my respect to the kids. City chiefs sincere. Congratulations from the bottom of mart. Awed let me tell you this. The San Francisco Forty nine is blue this game and I'll put it on one person one person more than anybody else. And that's this call Shanahan. Look Man I mean you talk about a brother. That just coached scared. Coach like eat coats like like he was petrified. Now you could argue that Patrick Mahomes could give you a reason to beat that way. Both my goodness you're twenty to gain. Patrick mahomes throws an interception at that moment to talk you would think that miss the twenty eight and three twenty eight three. He's updated offense coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons three years ago. I guess the only twenty eight three. Do you run the football no do Patriots Patriots. Come back they win the game. You could shoot the clock maybe kick the field goal sealed victory. You think that this would learn his lesson. You would think that let's do this. Excuse me just like I was scared of Tom. Brady I need to be scared of this guy. So maybe just maybe I will learn from the era of my way. So what does he do. They pull within twenty to seventeen mustard runs for five yards. Okay the run game was working put for some reason in this game gets a change team. That was twenty six against the run with tyrod. Matthew Honey Badger acknowledging after the game. Thank thank God. They've stopped running a football. What do you do you run into? Football twenty two times. The all the way tip you'll get the ball back with six. Six Mostert runs befogged yarden. Then it's an incomplete passes batted down by Christians about six eighth but Areso throw it as another incomplete pass. Forty seven seconds to doc and I'm not looking at the defense of the San Francisco. Forty niners you go you go. No-ho sitting up there you got you got you trying to sell folks in and out. What what you can't go on no other? You can't do it. Those dudes were gassed. You gave them no reprieve whatsoever. I know we got all of us up here on the stop. Stop by saying that in the end what it comes down to is that Kyle Shanahan coached scared. And Max. Do you know that in a fourth record. Seven possessions over the last two super bowls with Shannahan the offensive genius as the primary play caller. Not even a point in separate put that shit and they been outscored forty six. I don't know what else to say any time. A team is ninety six percent likely to win a game in the fourth quarter. They lose part of it is what they lose. Part of. It is what the other side to win. I will not argue against the idea that Shanahan left the door open. He obviously left door woman. I don't think it's because he didn't run it enough and I think before the half. He didn't use that time now that was stupid. He wasn't aggressive. He didn't show any a faith in his quarterback and you can claim that the end of the game he showed you why didn't show faith is water back but Jimmy G. what's actually playing very well and some of that self fulfilling prophecy. Show your players you. Don't I have faith them. Guess what they responding cut. You didn't use that time out. And also he kicked a field goal. You saw fortune favors. The bold Andy. Reid was going four on fourth down and this dude and Shanahan was kicking field goals. So so that's he left the door open but he came through that door. Patrick was having kids. He's never had a bag in. His career was having his first banking this the student forum. He wasn't settled early on. And this is Patrick. mahomes throwing interceptions on just stupid asses. He's supposed to be Brett. Farve the brain. What's going on and then in the moment of truth this dude? I heard you Dan. This morning takes an eleven step drop up and flings it forty four yards that. Forget about the fact that he's looking off not receivers but defenders running the ball into the end zone in the first half still doing even as he's having a bad game special stuff but with the game on the line third and fifteen with with the super bowl takes eleven steps back and flings it forty four yards for the completion. This dude is special. The reason I took the Kansas City chiefs if because in the end they have a place that you cannot account for best player player who ever lived and on a bad day he wins best player. Who ever lived after yesterday he he who won the Super Bowl Molly Ali? Yeah do you see the first three quarters of what happened in the fourth quarter. We'll talk radio big fourth quarter. I don't hear about the first win that game to. Hey you guys get it here you go first because okay. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa get both your I mean you pretty much say it. Exactly what I'm GonNa say Goodson who you sharing say Stephen because they thought you were just smacks. Here's here's the problem. Has a player right when you when you look at what cow Shanahan did at the in the second half for this game especially in the fourth quarter. Here's the problem that I have Hedo. Do what got us here. It's as simple as that. Do what got us here in. What got us here was physical zone scheme run gains reverses to Deebo Samuel? Why in the Hale would did you get away from that why there was no reason to get away from it? If somebody said all right I'm GonNa give you an opportunity to do what you do. ooh The best thing you do and it's a win you a super bowl and you don't do that. That is called being crazy. That's exactly what that's scared of. That offense offense and was trusting. GimMe here you only into Stephen as point. This is the second. Take time like at some point. Some coach should've walked up to cow San and say. Hey you remember what happened when you was coaching with Atlanta. Don't let that happen again. Let's do what we do. which makes us the what's made us the best team in the NFC? And by the way Max to your point didn't we all know Patrick Mahomes was over there and he didn't like when you're in the NBA. You know they said you know that a basketball player is having all tonight. What do you do to their basketball clamp? Jada Fort you fall out of his hands. I'm denying the Iraq war. Why listen isn't this is simple? This is US Talking Football own own the SOFA or at a barbecue and we outside Chilin and you know what we all go say. Hey Man why uncowed Shanahan run the football. That's the question they're everybody's go is now go ahead analytics man. Tell me why we lived through the chiefs. Won This football game game. Whatever Kyle did his part early on with the end of the first half in the third quarter field goal let me I just want to go through a list of things so the chiefs defense bows up in the red zone? Two Times to force field goals is that on call Shannon or is that on the chiefs defense making plays you answer that one chiefs defense making plays okay. Toronto Matthew has three place in the first quarter quarter restage. The game is that own shiner. Does that on Toronto Matthew Making Place Okay and then the fourth quarter goes or the third quarter goes is the second and seven homes escape. The pressure scrambled for a first down. Very next play Bosa grabs about the shoulder. He sheds it off completion to Travis Kelsey then he hits the Bond Atari kill was that was that Kyle channing was that a player for the chiefs making a play then the touchdown. Okay keep going there. Just may right there to forty four yard touchdown in writing player. Excuse me you can point to that but if you look at what was the Manual Moseley remember. He sat up there. And and what the cat under covered covering. Because tech the coverage Stephen just to attack the right football play. Did you see you can. It's interesting when you made the right for you. Remember the Green Bay game. Remember Moses Interception. Same exact play. He's falling inside because two and three go vertical. That's his job. Cajon becomes man at certain points. Sammy Watkins threats to fight about instincts. His instincts should've been better. made the right football play but in more about and and you. I'm sorry to interrupt apologize. Hold off a second. That's ridiculous and I'm GonNa tell you about the number two. Why did you because you're talking about the right place but you religiously talk about? How football is this? The fact of the matter is Dan. If you tie recounts Jail Time Wreak Hail ran by you and you know that but you gotta safety back there. Wanted because he's GonNa be retiree kill. Your instinct is to follow the do the polls the goal retiree killing that runs with all afternoon law. They were playing seats. They will play their little back and they were given up everything under because you were worried about this beat so that you don't worry about this me. No because tyreek Hill is running speed at the free safety. It's a play that they run all the time where they send tyreek hill across crossed the semi walk into narrow is that is that trump a dime doing really Richard Sherman. Here's the difference into guys. Patrick Andy Reid Dalla shot for Patrick mahomes any hit. That's the one that tyreek Hill College. He did the same thing he dialed up a shot. The team will Sanders Emmanuel. Sanders split the double team. And Jimmy. Garoppolo didn't make the throw I caught the game was over there. I thought Rob Lowe in the game's over one hundred percent but like the chiefs went and took this football game. The second and five. You're referencing. Everyone knows the best player on the planet right now right. What's the last thing you WANNA do up by three with six minutes to go for him to get the ball back? So why would you run the football. Because it's come they. Do you know what we're working. You're not only working because you're running a football effectively. It's moving the club. Okay so good. So what was second five. And they did what is an office triggering. Plaques who passed Complete Pass Incomplete. Ah on the stand. The play action pass was working for the middle twelve or thirteen twelve thirteen. It was work of it but then again what happened. Christos bats down the ball. How playboy the way? He doesn't is crucial six four. I'd do I continue to do this to ooh. They point the game. Do not smart does arguing scared of the very little play. This girl was yesterday. What got him to the Super Bowl was warning the football you got to know who is not the point? The point is if you have a ninety six percent percent chance to win the game in the fourth quarter. You GotTa do things to give the other team Magazi- Mike he's not denying that Shanahan poke coached poorly late late in the game. I agree with you there. That's not the point because the doors open doesn't mean you get to walk through. They walked through. Who we read was bull lanes But I'm not denying that what I'm saying to you. Is this at the end of the day. When you have a cushion you can negate the ability for Andy read or Patrick Mahomes to sell their greatness? Because you're displaying yours. All I'm trying to say to you was this in the end. You're trying to chew up clock. The twenty sixth straight to Russ against the rush. I don't really great run. Run out of all right into minutes. Slept six minutes one. That's an eternity for Patrick mahomes. You're not trying to just turn the clock. You're trying to go on a methodical dry to never give the clues play action. Pass this. I promise you cow. I've played for college. I love cocking Thailand. Gone run run pass in that that situation. I would've come on television today and said that was terrible. Georgia came on either. Do what they've been doing this. Having success running the full most twelve or thirteen the plant should pass search for two hundred bounce Donald Trump. Where's the Dan? Alaska that sits up the and takes into account temple takes into account. Excuse me the subliminal messages that coach coach Marcus with sensitive coats. It's going in the first half. Okay you get the ball you do not call it. Got Three time outs. Don't call the play. It took fifty nine. So you're sending a method to your TV. You don't believe in your quarterback Damien if you're already sick that message. What the tally giving them to play accident? What's wrong? Here's here's the analogy play. Excellent was working in the super bowl was the wasn't correct from Rome. Wasn't it now we kill Pete Carroll for throwing the ball and Malcolm Butler picking it off a we kill. MP Carol if he handed off the marshawn Lynch which and they don't score why why would you know what no Max. Why are we not killing marshawn? Better it's different. It's not just that it's the ooh it's got everything to do with what we watched all see only on it. This is the problem with football orthodoxy. With the way it's usually done on people are so scared of the negative outcome that that you're scared about. Saddam Shanahan was Berlin ways. Yeah you're right. He was asked to not run and I said this to this morning very the drive before the one that all talking about six minutes to go then they go play what six plays before. It's first down. They get a run to make it second and go play action passing muster and George biddle and it was the first town. It's the drive before the same exact sequence in it hits. It just doesn't get better down guys. If Chris Jones Jones doesn't bet that ball down that's an easy route one thing getting in on the loss jeep. I think they wanted to agree. Window between getting the ball with eleven fifty seven left in the game and getting the ball with six six minutes left in the game and building a momentum in the fact that must've just ran for two hundred and twenty yards in the NFC championship game. You didn't even start. If tevin Coleman Obama's back and that's a good profit them problem one thing. I don't like to admit but it's what happened. Dan and where you have to give the other side of this debate. Some credence didn't trust Jimmy at early on hundred percent and then later on when he didn't trust him Jimmy showed it didn't trust them early on one hundred side of the argument. Would you and I were arguing against before the game was proven. Correct the championship on the line. You do not a lot more I gotta go to break final analysis. Forty forty six to nothing. You'RE THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN ATLANTA UTAH and Atlanta Super Bowl. I it just takes ever been knocked down. Suffered a setback fired left out it happens. It happens a Mike. Bloomberg middle class kid worked his way through college. Got A job. STARLA family boom fired at thirty nine would it. Mike do for a lot us. Do we got backup dove back in. He had an idea design a new computer able to crunch data and process information in a unique way he built it he sold would he built more. He sold more. He built a team he built a company created. Twenty thousand jobs. Bloomberg is a doer. This is Michael Douglas. I I played a president and movies. This is real world. This is our World Mike. Bloomberg has what it takes to win unite the country find some common ground between Democrats and Republicans and then lead the way a leadership. Mike will get it done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president and I approve approve. This message paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty great job he. He kept firing. That's what he did so and you guys around him just believed them. I mean it was We all the all the coaches likewise three straight comebacks in the postseason. It's not magic anymore. Amores just mahomes. Yeah you all at that on me for me. It's about the guys I have around me. I look great team around me. I've been blessed being a great organization and I just trust in these guys. Trust me and A and it puts us in situations like this. WE'RE GONNA BE World Champs and get to enjoy it together. Oh Patrick Mahomes. MVP Super Bowl champion and super bowl. MVP happy the chiefs are the first team and NFL. POSTSEASON history to win three games within a single postseason after trailing by ten or more. That is resiliency Max. I'm looking at right. You prior to the Super Bowl appearance you argued that Patrick Mahomes is the most valuable athlete in all of sports more. So than Lebron James Ames did he prove that to be true after his performance last night where he struggled through the first three quarters of course maybe even because he struggled through the first three quarters. Look this is his first. I Super Bowl appearance and he was down points in and just interception and it's the fourth quarter of the biggest prize in American team sports and he came back on him and you know what there was like A. Here's eleven forty yards with the super bowl. The line thirty fifteen okay. Aaron Rodgers stuff like that. This is the only time that no bridges and do stuff like that this physically. Look Molly would you like to the debate this porno. You can't beat the point. 'cause Tom Brady sitting at home watching this. He got bounced in the first round. Here here's the bottom line mahomes in three consecutive playoff games. He didn't just win the Super Bowl here in three consecutive. Playoff games rallied from behind. Yeah that's fair. Outscored opponents one hundred to fourteen one hundred to fourteen when you add up three consecutive so here they we are entering the play offs. And here's the here are the opponents and in three consecutive gate. He finds himself down in the second half of games and he says okay mahomes homes time one hundred points to fourteen in return. This dude is different. Footballs the number. One sport in the country he plays the most important position he gives you a greater premium at the most important position in the biggest sport than any other player in any other sport including Lebron. WHO's no longer number one in basketball including Mike Trout? WHO's only been to one place and didn't perform there? It is Patrick Mahomes. First of all you're wrong for several reasons number one the fact that he's in football football first of all you're GonNa have people walking through the turnstiles filling the arenas watching it on TV etcetera etcetera. We made that argument last week. No reason regurgitate that point number two this eight today to brag about Patching Patrick home to that degree who spent the first three quarters really really struggling. Yes he showed up in the fourth quarter. One could easily argue that Damian Williams could have been the MVP. I don't make that argument to me. It was Patrick. MAHOMES BUT PATCH MAHOMES may to keep throws he underdo Tyreek Hill coverage by Moseley like I said that was a beautiful dominant. He threw the Sammy Watkins. Who Richard I wanted to go outside? He's you he joked winning side and quarter over the head past. Outside of that Damian Williams did some things as well so let's remember that number three number three when we talk about Lebron James. Last time I checked Max. Don't give a damn about the regular season. He sold the American people the American regular-season. Excuse me we are. Joe Max Max. Kellerman has told the American public. He doesn't give a damn about the regular season from October to April. Absolutely nothing to him about what happened in the postseason and last time I checked the Broncos the NBA finals he's won three NBA titles. And oh by the way it is still not proven definitively there. He Ain't the best basketball because especially for my fault fall. Formats who once had the Greek freak as number one and dropped them to five from Thursday to Monday Games. Okay well what I'm saying. Is He went from one to a five from at. This is literally the truth. Thursday Thursday morning Max. Had the Greek freak is the number one player in the world. Monday metcalf. Yeah I can't say that but not to double todd not one to five to five okay except the reasoning ause. Chris Maxwell asked you to let me finish Max's reason was this is the play offs. Hi this is who cares about the regular the playoffs. So you can't dismiss the Lebron James. He's because the playoffs have any. Evan arrived yet lash. He got hurt. We ain't got that going straight. NBA Finals so eight. Rather so we try to heat at. That's all I'm trying to say in the end Patrick mahomes legitimate playing football. He's a superstar doll. He's a champion now. He deserves our profound respect and credit but the best in the world the most valuable in the world stop. I disagree with Stephen. You make the comment. This isn't the day to put the homes in that category. I actually think it is the best day to put in homes in that that category really watch the whole game. I think this action homes best performance as a pro performance. Here here my work not gain. This was not his best gain gain most dominant game but this was his best performance. All right Max loss not gonNA listen up. Molly went back on the Falcons. After bad for if you didn't hear any of this there's no doubt exactly I got what they I'm competing form. Ince's performance is legendary. We've never seen the kid. I have a bad game and also into three quarters on the biggest stage he stinks and everyone's having a ball on social media who four men rush this and that and then all of a sudden he goes I got it and you see the second seven scramble the third quarter and then the shrug off of both completion and then the bomb and all of a sudden. You're like oh here comes a different level of Patrick homes. Because it's it is not a this. This is the thing you can't measure. You can't go to combine measure. Do you have this when when everything's going bad and you're playing poorly. Do you have the delete delete into what happened before it doesn't matter would have been playing. It doesn't matter I'll we'll find a way. tyreek Hill came out today and said that with ten minutes seven minutes to go in on the game that touch them homes went over. Came in. Need you right now. We're down ten with seven minutes to go with Zach. Nah I need you get. GimMe some Julie in Los. Gin and tonic. Got Me to lock in. You can't measure that stuff. That's why this is his best performance because it wasn't about the freak arm and it wasn't about the on the the sidearm throws the no looks to talent that rave about this was about a physical tough mental. Get the resiliency I get overcoming adversity. I get at the big game coming back but to say he's the best in all sports like we couldn't see other quarterbacks minus down in the fourth way goal I've seen valuable so going into the game the game when you when you play a top two defence. Everyone knows that it's fifteen and five five guys do it are Brady Rodgers and Terry Bradshaw and then thighs men and Plunkett and some unique situations so we have three hall of famers. What what more do you need? Need to see from the kid by the age of thirty twenty four eastern although he started thirty six games this was nick rights tweet which was great. He's won the MVP he's won the MVP the Super Bowl. He's directed at top five offense in the history of the NFL. He's got the second greatest comeback in the history of the playoffs and he led one of the best fourth quarter comebacks in the plaza. What else can hang him to guys? Like Lebron James Go ahead. He's better than Lebron is in his Lebron James like this I vol. Don't even start with me with this. Valuable in best is totally. Here's the thing the Stephen as point and we agree on this and the first conversation Padma homes had a great night when it comes to resiliency bouncing back from a bad performance performance. Lebron never had when he was down three one golden state a bad night not a bad quarter not a bad minute when they were down three one. He would've Miami Caribbean Royal Carribean. If we're going to pass the put Miami in the fourth quarter wait a second mix against start thinking let me talk. We compare Patrick Mahomes to be in the most valuable player in all of sport right now back five year right now right. Now I'm Pat Mahomes last night volunteerism purposes conversation. We just we have in this conversation. If Cow Shanahan rose does what he needs to do offense Mandy all right. So here's my point. Lebron James was down three one to two who some say it was the greatest basketball team to ever be a simple. We were having that conversation about those boys. He himself was the reason they want him in Cairo. But you're right. He did an amazing amazing. It's a two thousand sixteen. You'd be right it'd be Lebron it's not as two thousand twenty. Most valuable sports takes a little bit of time. Max when we look at Lebron James and his runs in the playoffs that's been the most valuable player career career performing. We're not two thousand twenty all. We have to go off if Lebron has been in the playoffs and championship series and when we saw Pat Mahomes is now now this year win. Win The Lakers go to the playoffs. I can guarantee you this conversation with chain. Okay Jordan's valuable in sports. Sports go once upon a time he did better the right. Let me ask you this you want to talk about. If Kawhi is the Lakers. Are they as equally. Probably as good of a team mm-hmm. I'm not sure I'm not sure who. I'm not sure if I'm not sure if it's the same basketball player as I'm not sure about that. How how how many of the NFL? What I order back in the NFL game less? Hold on one second one what I know. Here's what I okay. Maybe Sean that when when you look at a lineage of players that have had the opportunity to play with Lebron James Their careers are better for. Okay well fat mahomes homes got some time then first of all let me say this would probably disagree. I think the Shawn Watson with the requisite weapons that could last night matting. Aaron Rodgers could've done last night with the requisite no with the requisite weapons that Kansas City has. That's just my personal opinion. Having said all of that Dan Alaska August back to you just like you talked about the motivational tool that was exercised by Patrick Mahomes and the effect it had in terms of galvanizing the truth particularly as somebody like a tyreek hill. who was selling and down and believe in this was over? Let's take into account the fact that not only. Did you have a San Francisco defense. That was guessing. Oh Oh by the way nick. Bosa Marcus dawn this what among the MVP even what he did officially yesterday. I mean he was just twelve quarterback. What about question twelve quarterback pressures he was like wow twelve months he was just a Mazda yesterday? But here's the dining living dead men just like you WanNa do it with the positive I could do the negative okay. Because you're talking about the impact that mahomes had on the team. What about the detrimental Impact College Shanahan had on the team? When I saw Deebo Sam you who by the way was my pick to be in the fourth quarter game before the game I picked him to be? MVP The way. He was bald the way he ball last night. He didn't make me out to be alive. deebo Samuel was bowl. He was crying after the game. You saw nick Bosa chronic. You sort a running back two running backs you know what they will they look it because David like Yo l do you not know to give us the damn. It's always when Lebron came down on the Warriors Steph Curry. Couldn't they greatest half court offense ever couldn't score a single point in the last five minutes of the game. Of course the other team has to do some stuff to legend Anakin at Steph Curry. He will never do okay. But you can't muster a point and five manager James Senate myself. He was throwing the ball away. Stephen Swamp Okay but you know one possession game point is the the other team has to leave the door open for all to Lebron but you gotta give homes the same credit and that happened hinge or heavy. These kinds of valuable have world is on the other side lines. That's why didn't didn't run the ball. Listen that's why didn't we talk. We blew face and you'll be wrong. James is the most valuable player in all artwork is the MVP followed up by the Super Bowl. Mvp Cost Twenty. Four Jimmy G. had a good shot to win his third super bowl ring but this time as the main Guy Jimmy G. when twenty thirty one for two hundred nineteen yards to tease in one touchdown. Tough one to swallow for San Fran. Here's the niners what it is you know we we do next and they got the win. I mean you could see guys in there. It means something to guys and I mean you got guys who care about what they're doing guys who care about each other nowhere. Young team got a very bright future. So you know gotTa take this in stride. Remember this feeling and you know in the offseason. Oh right sports got here with us. Good to have you paging Mr Smith. You some great professor. What grade are you giving? Jimmy G. A. D. D.. Let me say this. There's only two nice things I got to say about Jimmy. G. Play action overstretch. He hit like thirteen. Fourteen passes outside of that. That was a fly as black suit. Seattle right there. That's about all. I got the positive to say about Jimmy. Gee whose performance early and especially late with flat out athetic the last eleven minutes I think he was like three or twelve for like thirty thirty six yard. Three eleven thirty six just a quarterback rating of three forty. Three going up against packing. I I want to say the suspect him. I'm not good this because I mean my wife. I'M NOT GONNA call them forward star Jimmy do that. I'M NOT GONNA do it instead of just say Jimmy J it got to be more. Marcus be it's not GonNa get rid of that name and I'm gonNA call Jimmy Garoppolo. Is the problem. Okay okay. The only thing that saves Jimmy Garoppolo today was his coach because Mike Shanahan with the exception of the six points that New England scored in overtime of Super Bowl fifty one Mike Shanahan has commented on my because we heard about the more we macau saying God okay. The Sun with the highlights on the sideline holding a with his father win headsets following them down on the sidelines. Boy wonder he's been outscored. Forty eight nothing in the fourth quarter. He's the primary play caller last the two super bowls that he was in seven possessions. Not once not even a field go zero point but in the end. Here's the indictment against Jimmy G.. As Max alluded to early clearly they started out the game. Shanahan entrust Jimmy and Jimmy G. but the fourth quarter showing US why he couldn't could've trusted so all of this doors Jimmy Jian he can get it. taught can go hand on eight of thirteen thirteenth backs in the fourth. The first three quarters daily pressure to go three times. Let me tell you live. Kansas City's defense. Molly Jimmy G.. Right now do you remember the to the two key plays by by Patrick Mahomes with him scrambling out of the pocket. I saw Jimmy G.. Run out of pocket. One time I went like this he kept over little bit greats one but he's not. He kept Mu. That was the only Tommy Moon. Here's here's here's what Le- let me tell you the great clearly actually give him a B minus knowing that sounds high to people. Yes it is. Hi I'll tell you what mahomes is special in a way. Jim Hey is not mahomes. Looked off the the defense to run the ball in the first half he was having an awful game but he was doing special little things anyway. He's special differently than everyone else. Jimmy G. was having a Very Good Super Bowl. It wasn't okay. He wasn't just good enough. He was having a very good super bowl until late in that game now he we had a crucial miss. I'm not even talking about the kid. Play the Emmanuel Sanders played when you get behind the defense even though they were like double coverage but still got behind the defense. Did you have to hit that throw and if you do. There's a very good chance you win the Super Bowl and he missed that throat and sports is what we call zero zero sum game the real victory the agony of defeat. There is no in between. But when you're grading player it's not just a or s like if if he hits that throw you give them an egg he just beat Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. He had an excellent first half and then he hit the throw a needed to and it would have been a great throw. He missed it throw. I'm not taking him from what would have been like a B. Plus eight minus a to an f because he missed that throw what I will say is he did show for people like me who say it's not just that he's twenty three now six in his career by the way for team for a team last year that was like what three and thirteen four and twelve without him as soon when he gets back. The basically can't lose it's not. He had something to him like in the New Orleans game with that kid link of I believed in him under pressure and what he showed in. This game is one of those things he needs for the extra credit. He didn't come through with but you can't race. What he did up until that point he was very very good until late in the game? He was seventeen to twenty three quarters. Everybody wants to reference. The kiddo played a two yard pass that was compounded by face ace master and ADO trying to be a hero hero ball. This is not played in the league. Eleven years an expert in mediocre to bad quarterback because I had to sit on the bench and watch most of my quarterbacks be mediocre to bad. You can't hide your quarterback in the Super Bowl. They've been hiding. Jimmy G. The entire year when you listen when I exit onus on this on this set last week and I said he was matched shop. I was that was a compliment. You guys thought it was an insult. It was an accident compliment. He's not an accurate quarterback back when I look at the plate design when I look at how Shanahan uses him. It tells me that he doesn't trust him. It's like somebody that you want to punch above their weight class so you try and gas awesome up and let them think that they're better than what they are. But then when it comes time to put the put the proof in the pudding he can't perform whenever you have talked about a play action quarterback like nick foles calls or a kirk cousins. It's the play design. That's designed to drink the windows him to throw through when you talk about the League quarterbacks in his league like mahomes like the Shawn Watson. It's guys that are able to manipulate pockets and throw guys open G. U. has never I give him a C minus and I'm being generous because he was doing what he was supposed to do. Not Lose the game and I sat here last week and say listen. He's a guy that won't lose it for you but he's a guy that won't win it for you either and we thought we were going to be able to hide and they're going to be but if he if it came down to Jimmy G. Having to drop back when everybody knew that he had to drop back they knew he couldn't go through his progressive. That's why you missed somebody. There's wide open like kittles at six five six four whatever he is sitting sitting right in your face because you don't have the football accurate to understand what's going on on the other side. You look at Patrick Mahomes. When he got the invisible juice is because he started to recognize what what the defense was trying to do understand? That Sherman was trying to hide in play press bell like it was man to man or cover three and Heidi and he caught him. Slipping that safety eighty got out of there and he called Sherman with that one one covers was able to say they wanted to walk the walk ins play right. So that's what the great quarterbacks do the average ones are ones. Let's say we give them data boys right that a boy like good enough. Just don't lose it for was Jimmy. Deep bottom. Fifteen of the Lee type quarterback the US minus. What you got Marcus? Then they lose the game they lose the game when you get there you lose. You get enough. Did they lose the guy did he have opportunities to make the plays the win. The game sure half he also had like these early which like you just said. Sports is either the thrill of victory on agony of defeat. The reason why the San Francisco for a big reason why the San Francisco Forty niners didn't win the super bowl is because Jimmy G. MS kills own a third and five to complete it when he was wide open and he missed a menu will sanders touchdown to go up. That's the reason it it is it is it will also kill to and it didn't count. I mean come on this. This quarterback on how he performed increased time. We grade all of them in the Super Bowl. That's how we not just not just that Max. The fact that the matter is is that argument didn't make much sense. In this regard you were Raven about Patrick mahomes because of what he did in the clutch. So you can't then turn around looking at Jimmy Johns performance in the clutch and come up with the excuse me. I don't give I give Muhoza be that's not talking about Mahomes I'm talking about Jimmy G.. You can't it gives him a beat anything where you consider how people in the clock. He's being compared to a guy. I saw this on his night. As a matter of fact he's been compared to a guy who's Qb they are on third and fifteen this year is. What do you remember this from? The ninety nine they were saying is the guy you have to beat in other words. You have if now okay. Let me ask you if you make that. If if Jimmy G. connects on that throw what grade the throat said if he hits that Dole at the Super Bowl you one pay hit the one pass it. You need to make Jake. and His. What his what you're not getting? No one is thinking about at this moment for this segment. Nobody is thinking about Patrick. Mahomes compared to the beginning. We're literally taking putting him in this mug going like this. You are the problem. Here's the nut. Show up with your tally. If it's not mahomes who hits on third and fifteen a forty four yard pass that very few players who ever lived are going. It'd be able to take eleven steps and do that. Then Jimmy G. wins the game. Anyway back he gets. Don't want our homes to make make earned five throat and get a first down wide open tiny and make a wide open throat Emanuel saying that's the way I don't have as you give them an A..

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March of the mutants

"Hello i'm basha and you're listening to the slow news cost and it seems right now that if we squint hard enough the end of this pandemic looks like it could just about be inside. We've got that date. The twenty first of june. See it into our heads and our phones of full of memes about the chaos that surely ensue. All let out again and really the only things that seemed to be threatening that great reopening variance dreaded variants that could undermine the vaccine prompt a spike in cases. Fact the young. And that's what we're investigating this week if you've been listening to the news costs for a while. You'll know that my colleague matt ancona aspen. Following the government's pandemic response radi closely. He's investigated how sick. Boris johnson really was last year when we were told that everything was fine. He's investigated what was really going on with the number ten halloween lockdown fiasco and he's investigated the political decision making behind the vaccine. And today i'm handing over to him to tell us the story variant and what it might mean for future difficult. Hong side covid nineteen tracy's one of the elements that enables us to fight coverage. We are not single. Silver bullets at between the business plan being published and going into the lockdown. We're currently and now. We've seen the virus mutate. We seen the new variants emerge which was something none of us had were able to predict. That's baroness died. Do haunting head of the government test and strategy addressing the common science and technology committee on february the third and yes. She did say utah. She said that none of us meaning presumably nobody in the political and public health world could have been reasonably expected to predict a new variant of covid nineteen would emerge to cause trouble will return to die day. Harding's astonishing statement certainly stunned. The mp's on the committee is one of them. Told me. I wish. I'd had a piece of toast in mahanta drop but i to explain why it matters so much. I met dan conan and this part of torture series in audience stories on the government's pandemic strategy. I've been looking at the variance of the original virus fest. Founding wuhan how they have shaped our experience of code and the restrictions that have come with it and most importantly what their role will be in the future. What is not be fully appreciated. As we'll see is the extent to which in private at least fear of variances driven. Boris johnson's most recent pandemic strategy. As much as optimism about the deployment of vaccines as one cabinet minister. Put it to me. We're in a weird space right now. Vaccine fauria punctuated by tax variant terror wide variance deserve our attention because they're inevitable the foss moving work of evolution in real time and because the form that they take can be quite literally a matter of life and death. His boris johnson. Making that point very clear in downing street on monday february twenty-second as he launches his surprisingly cautious plan for exit from lockdown. It's largely the impact of this new variant. That means the nhs is under such intense pressure with another forty thousand two hundred sixty one positive cases since yesterday we have thirty eight thousand five hundred sixty two. Kobe patients now in hospital. And that's seventy eight percent higher than the first peak. in in april and tragically. There have been a further one thousand four hundred one deaths so it's more important than ever that we all remain vigilant in following the rules and that we stay at home protect. Hfs chess and that by save lives on the trail of these tiny mutants. I've spoken to more than twenty ministers. Mp's government scientific advises sources in pharmaceutical manufacturing and university experts. Working around the clock to predict what covid will do next. It's a battle between and evolution between big brains and microscopic particles and as so often in the pandemic story. It's a tale of the fuzzy space. Where scientific data meets political decision making and mistakes can easily be made on the outskirts of cambridge. Scientists are tracking the spread of the new variant of the virus. Got now on the suspect viruses. We've circumstantial evidence also have details of the new variant of corona virus. The new strain was out of control. The potential risk it poses. It is with a very heavy heart. I must tell you we cannot continue with. Christmas is planned curb. It is the defining global emergency of our era and many of its most vivid dramas have involved political personalities and angry disagreement and the air is the to be nurtured by these tensions over. Went to impose this lockdown or sign of that contract or change yet. Another failed testing app but the most important protagonists in this story pathogens the south african brazilian and kentish variants of the original virus. Each like the suspects in a murder mystery has a very different character and each is almost unimaginably tiny the budding shallow combs who goes in search of the next villain needs more than two pipes to crack the case. He needs an electron microscope. Every virus particle. John is fifty to two hundred nanometers in diameter to give you an idea of what that means one. Nanometer is a hundred million of a meter looking at another way to the question. How many viruses can you fit on the head of pin. The answer is about five hundred million that each one of those particles can differ as virologists like to say they come in an infinite number of flavors and the overwhelming majority of these flavors won't make the slightest difference to the danger corona virus represents to us but and is a big but some do and if the mutation is lethal climbing over the barriers set by existing vaccines one. Such fair in is more than enough died. Harding's remark was so surprising. Because it's a one. Oh one course. Question in public health studies that viruses mutate all the time if one thing was absolutely completely predictable about covid nineteen it is. This would happen. Many scientists believe that the second wave of the spanish flu of nineteen eighteen was deadly because of mutation hiv. Furthermore is divided into two main strains each of which is subdivided into alphabetize subgroups. Regular winter. flu is constantly mutating. Which is why the global health community gathers january or february to share genomic data and agree on a new re-engineered vaccine that can be administered around the world later in the year in the case. Of course. there's the mutations matter. Only if they make big changes to the so called spike protein which the virus uses to enter human cells again. This might not sound like much but imagine a building that has an automatic water sprinkler system triggered by fire and malware that disables the system. The computer code causes malfunction that burns the building to the ground. This in effect is what a nasty variant could do to escape vaccine protection so far. This hasn't happened but it might. This is why for example. The scientists at oxford university that cracked the vaccine code in january. Twenty twenty the breakthrough that was to enable the astra zeneca jab have been tracking mutations. Edison's professor catching disco. Oxford's big data institute explains in this rural sati prime. the crown of ours are in a can imagine. It is a string of thirty thousand letters and through genetic sequencing. We can read those letters across the genome were we find is as the virus spreads from person to person we can stop deceive mutations and in some individuals and then spreading into other individuals which thing going to create this kind of even issue each by looking at those changes we can map how the virus is spreading within countries and sick lately but the would variant was not one you had ministers public health experts outta very often for most of twenty twenty as one senior adviser to the told me it wasn't so much ignorance is political bandwidth. Most of us just didn't get around to thinking about anything except putting out fires test and trace was a disaster and then the second way really hit us in september we didn't start discussing variants properly until november. The anybody wants to go into a second lockdown but clearly. You know when you look at what is happening. You've gotta you gotta wonder whether we need to go further than the the rule of six that we bought in on monday. So we'll be looking at. The local lockdowns gotten dodge parts of the country. Now look what we can do to intensify things that are to help bring the rate of infection down that that was the prime minister on september. The eighteenth what he didn't yet knows that the virus was already twisting and turning and plotting against his best laid plans two days later on september twentieth. A variant was detected in chronically. Ill covid patient in kent. What was anecdotally apparent and later to be confirmed by hard data was this brand. New coronavirus was more transmissible than the common-or-garden wuhan garate. but boris. Johnson knew nothing of this on october. Thirty first when he announced the second national lockdown a four-week closure to try and take some of the pressure off the nhs pressure that was becoming dangerously heavy again so now is the time to take action because there is no alternative than from thursday until the start of december. You must stay at home. You manley leave home for specific reasons including education for work. Let's say if you cannot. Meanwhile in mid october the variant had been officially isolated as be one one seven by the covid nineteen genomics. Uk consortium or call you k which detected the full genetic code in two samples have been collected in kensington london. How have the mutation occurred an early hypothesis in one. That is yet confirmed. Is that the treatment of chronically. Ill patients with less int- plasma the blood of people who'd recovered from covid nineteen had extended time which these particular patients were fighting the virus. The us giving it space to shape shift and morph. It's a paradox of treatment therapies. That much they may help the patient to recover. They also give the virus time to evolve and try out new genetic armaments button. This is the crucial bone of contention the story. The government scientific advisory group for emergencies old sage did not alert ministers to the new variant until december the eleventh collectively the system enacted sluggishly it was quite clear by mid-november that things were going badly wrong in kenton the southeast on november the twenty third roger. True love leader of swelled barra council north. Kent had this to say some people. Just in denial they. I think it's a hoax. And i think that must be a very small portion of the population but spy with the messaging. The clearly people who've done necessary get what they've got to do that. They think it's doesn't apply to them on that very day. Data had been released showing that just two regions london. The southeast seeing a rise in new cases in the majority of areas with steep drops in hot spots in the north south east england had the highest rate in the country with rates of infection increasing in thirty four sixty seven local authority areas. Matt hancock was well aware of the problem as he told the commons on november the twenty sixth we must make the right judgments getting by the science. The majority of england will be to but in a significant number of errors. I'm afraid they need to be in tip three to bring case rates down now. I know how tough this is. Both the areas that have been in restrictions for long time like lester and greater manchester and also for areas where cases have risen sharply recently like bristol the west midlands and kent. The full allocations have been published this morning and laid as a written ministerial statement. Just before this statement began. I understand the impact that these measures will have but they are necessary given the scale of the threat that we face. What is so striking. Is that even in late november. The problem is still being attributed to patchy compliance of lockdown regulations and there was still so little attention being paid the possible impact of variant virus. That had been isolated more than two months before indeed it was not until december the eighth that the kentish mutation was finally declared a variant under investigation by the uk and then ten days later reclassified as a variant of concern over the last few days thanks to all world class genomic capability in the uk. We have identified a new variant of grown virus which may be associated with the fastest spread in the south east of england by this stage hancock and his boss. The prime minister were finally persuaded the kentish variant was the culprit and with good reason by december the nineteenth. It was clear. The new flavor of covid was much more easily transmitted a bleak reality. The drove boris johnson to impose tier for restrictions on a million people across london and eastern and southeast england. Move tags early analysis suggests the new variant could increase the are by not point four or more and although this considerable uncertainty it may be up to seventy percent more transmissible. Then the old very original version of the disease the two-week curfew let's the cancellation of millions of christmas. Day family gathering at any hope that the tier four restrictions would get. The virus under control was quickly. Dashed january the fourth. The prime minister announced the third lockdown with great reluctance. But in the face of ming evidence. From chris witty the chief medical officer answer. Patrick valance the government's chief scientific advisor. The was what they called a material risk of the health service being overwhelmed by the number of covert admissions with most of the country already extreme measures. It's clear that we need to do more together to bring this new variant under control while our vaccines a road in england. We must therefore going to a national lockdown. Which is tough enough to contain this berend. That means the government is once again instructing you to stay at home by now. A nagging voice in the back of ministers minds was growing ever more insistent as one put it to me. Why the fuck didn't sage us sooner. If the scientists knew the details of the. ken barrington. october. Why did they wait. Till december two you know. Let us know in private the scientists. Reply that this sentiment shows how much the politicians still have to learn about public health policy. According to one sage expert look we have the best nomex capacity in the world with constantly mapping the variance more than any other nation. Half of all covid sequencing in the world. We didn't have enough data and october to say with any confidence that this particular variant was the cause of the spike. In cases the same source added the better question. People might like to ask is why weren't ministers interested in various until so late in the year. And why didn't they actively see kara advice on the subject in which context. Let's return to that extraordinary statement by died a harding to the science and technology committee on february third that nobody could have predicted the kentish variant later in the same hearing the committee's conservative chair. Great clock invited to revisit this remark now under in this session. Brunson said that quote. We've seen the new variant emerge which is something none of us were able to predict. What did you just like to reflect on that and was it not possible. Is it not possible to be primed and ready to respond actually two mutations which most scientists we've heard from across the Felt was not only likely over certain. Well i think on the basis that this country is absolutely at the leading edge of genomic sequencing we are better placed than i would argue any other country in the world to be able to sports mutations and to then predict which ones will cause material problems which ones ones what i was referring to earlier is predicting exactly when not is going to happen and therefore being ahead of the curve. That's much heart in other words died at harding who's successful businesswoman. But was in this case. Speaking on behalf of the embattled science public health community was saying to the incredulous. Mp's get off our back. This stuff isn't as easy as you political time. Servers reckon as so often in the pandemic story human foible and failure to communicate is as important as outright failure and there is exasperation on both sides. The politicians accused the scientists of giving them the wrong kind of advice. Oh the right condo advice but too late. The scientists throughout the hands in despair the short termism of the politicians and the inability to walk and chew gum at the same time but the criticism leveled in private by some of the scientists is even more damning. It is this. The boris johnson and his team were not only uninterested in variants of the virus until the problem was jammed in front of their faces. They had also managed to create a dream context for mutation as we've seen viruses always evolve their subject to what's called selective pressure if we try to shut them down the look for evolutionary escape hatches changing and altering in response to any new circumstance or context but there are a context that they're specially love. They can have great fun in the body of an infected individual patient morphing and transforming in the course of one wretchedly long stay in hospital what they really relish though the coronavirus playground. If you like is a context of high case rates the more people that are infected even without symptoms the greatest scope. The pathogen has to biological dance and try on new genetic costumes. So the most damning charge against the government is at the ferocious emergence of the kentish. Variant was the consequence of bad decisions taken earlier in the year as one. Sage member says if we had looked down a week or ten days earlier the first time in march it would make all the difference. We might have had a chance at least a chance of nipping. The whole in the bud instead. Boris visit until march twenty third. The disastrous test and trace of the summer meant that the virus spread fostering further than it needed to and the more. It's spread the more to dotted to this ministers and their advisors respond angrily as one senior source puts it. The fact is we can't even be sure that what we call kentish variant was born in kent. The whole point to these mutations is that they can happen anywhere and that they are horribly mobile. It was tracked down in kent but who knows where it started. What is not in. Doubt is the muscular power. An increasingly global reach of the kentish variant fairly named or not by november. The six it had reached california by november twenty third florida on december the twenty first more than forty countries halted flights from the u k in practice the kentish variant is the mirror image. The uk vaccine rollout which has been justly held around. The world is a british success story. The mutation is a false for aol in the pandemic that we really don't want to be wrapped the union flag but most certainly is in news bulletins around the world to potentially fast-spreading corona virus strain causes alarm around the world. Meanwhile the us colorado health officials have identified the first case of a new coronavirus variant. I discovered in the uk that highly contagious uk. Very spreads across the country now confirmed in at least nineteen states. This cd fearing it could make the pandemic much worse when ministers boasted about the world leading nature of the british management to the pandemic as they did for much of two thousand twenty. This probably wasn't what they had in mind. Still even before christmas. The uk there wasn't the villain in town on december. The twenty third british scientists announced it another variant first detected in south africa neural tober had now been isolated in two patients in england afternoon. The health secretary revealed the two cases of yet another variance have been detected in the uk. This one was first discovered in south africa tonight. The government said it was temporarily stopping flights from there from nine. Am tomorrow labeled be one five two five. The south african variant had been traced in one hundred and forty seven people in the uk by february the fifth at least eleven of whom had not set foot in south africa. The worrying south african variant of the covid virus has slipped the net and is now begun to spread within the uk. The new flavor of virus was spreading in other words albeit more slowly than its kentish. Colin worried ministers and scientists alike was the south. African variant showed limited signs of cutting through the protection offered by the vaccine. The kentish ferret was more transmissible. Yes but the early data suggested that it didn't put those who received the job in any greater danger but the south african variant. Well that was a different story. Nicknamed rio in the cabinet office with occasional bad taste bursts of duran duran's song of the same name. This mutation was starting to work on ways of getting through the vaccine firewall. His professor sara gilbert headed the oxford university team that created the astrazeneca vaccine. On the bbc's andrew maher show on february seventh explaining the problem what we're saying from other vaccine developers is that they have a reduction in efficacy against some of the variant viruses. And what is looking like that. We may not be reducing the total number of cases the still protection in that case against deaths hospitalizations and severe disease so that pushed us more back to the first scenario with the pyramid cases that i was talking about. Maybe we won't be reducing the number of cases as as much but we still won't be seeing that the deaths hospitalizations understood disease and that's really important for healthcare systems. So it's very important to emphasize that the south african variant has not put anyone who's received the jab in mortal danger or even at risk of serious illness bought at a time of justified celebration about the vaccine rollout in the uk its emergence was a reminder that this was a war potentially without end his patrick valance at a downing street press conference on january the twenty second emphasizing the vigilance required by the rise of the variance. We all more concerned that they have certain features which means they might be less susceptible to vaccines but they are definitely more concern than the one in the uk at the moment and we need to keep looking at it and studying this very carefully. Which is what's going on in the trees across the world. At the moment the virus would not just give up in other words on the country the logic volition would send it seething into battle against the vaccine that were so successfully thwarting its work. The same is true of the so-called brazilian variant or p one is it snowed in the lab. This version was not in fact spotted in brazil tool but by japan's national institute of infectious diseases on january the second in full travelers. From brazil's amazonas state. The discovery rang alarm bells for one obvious. Reason with almost two hundred fifty thousand deaths. Todate brazil is second only to the us in covid fatalities so it's epidemiological data is of concern to the whole world. What worries ministers and scientists in the uk and everywhere else is what happened in the rain. Forest city of manila's the capital of the state of amazonas in the first wave of the virus. Up to three quarters of the city's population were infected a terrible toll that ought to have had the consolation of offering high levels of immunity the surviving population or enough of them would have generated antibodies to protect them from a further surge. But that is precisely what happened to the dismay. The city's inhabitants by january money s was running low on basic medical supplies and private citizens taking to the road in conditions of extreme heat and rainfall to get oxygen and other essentials for their families. Bodies were reportedly being buried in mass graves. Covert returned for a second savage bite. Manaus in the amazon rainforest is at the epicenter. It's where the new strain was found. In amazon's british city mouse hospitals a close to collapse with medical supplies dwindling. An intensive care units nearing capacity. The city was absolutely floored in the first outbreak. It's never recovered. Its through the floor now. The brazilian variant shares with the south african version of genetic mutation gould. E four eight four k or eke as it is nicknamed that seems to cut through existing immunity though. Not predictably so again. There is no evidence that it will endanger those who have received the vaccine on february. The twenty first matt. Hancock told sky safety ridge that the incidence of the two main variants was fully in the uk. Will there is evidence that the measures that we're taking both the enhanced contact tracing and also the stricter measures at the border. There is evidence that these are working and that We've now go to Stronger vigilance in place. Because everybody coming into the country has to be tested and we sequenced the results of those tests and we also got a a very strong set of actions working with the local authorities dairy specifically in the areas where a new variant is found and we hit it hard and sending in hong contact tracing Go adults dole. So we've now got this program in place to be able to really really try to stamp out a new variant where we see it and there is evidence that that is working. What does that mean that you think the cases might be coming down of those veterans. Yes i do. So how have these mutations being contained so far by two principal means i border control and quarantine on february sixteenth. The government announced details of its plan to ban travel from thirty three countries. Except for you can are nationals. Who would have to quarantine for ten days in a government approved hotel also ban all travel from twenty two countries where there is a risk of known variants including south africa portugal and south american nations at in order to reduce the risk posed by uk nationals and residents returning home from these countries. I can announce that we will require all such arrivals who cannot be refused entry to isolate in government provided accommodation such hotels for ten days without exception. Labor's john ashworth. The shadow health secretary urged the prime minister to go further and to consider even tighter border controls. Now these variants bring into focus the importance of order controls times radio reports that hotel quarantine arrangements won't be in place until the fifteenth of february. Why the delay. An according to the times newspaper sage warned two weeks ago so for quarantine restrictions for everyone answering the uk with the government disputes. This interpretation so we'll he published the sage minutes from twenty first of january. The problem is that no modern nation dependent upon the supply chains of the global economy and the movement individuals across the border can long sustain such restrictions. The department for transport has already been tasked with setting up a success ability to the global travel task force established in october to coordinate the phased resumption of relatively normal border control but as one senior virologists. Put it to me. Travel is pretty much all or nothing anything like regular human traffic resumes. You can work on the basis that any significant variant will get here sooner or later so the second weapon against variant outbreaks is more important for the long term so-called surge testing. Here's steve macmanus. Director of trace operations at tested trace explaining to the science and technology select committee on february. The third how the system works so in relation to the areas that we've been identified for the new variants. we have increased. We're doing some work. To increase the speed of sequencing under mr hewlett's looking to bring that turnaround time sequencing for a shorter we're surging additional testing capacity so the mobile testing units. But also as you would have the text the testing kits that can be delivered door to door to effectively saturating geographical area to be able to increase the level of tests but in that port and they'd be out to increase the level of sequencing and understand the potential community transmission and finally we've set up a dedicated variant of concern contact tracing sell nationally. Says we can actually fast track then. Even further training element of work directly with the local health protection teams already teams to support more rapid isolation for the citizen. This sounds good but it will be a stretch to say that there is full confidence within the government all the scientific community the hitherto shambolic test and trade system is up to the task as one. Who's been involved with the pandemic strategy for the full eleven month. Says we want it to work. It has to work but we're also conscious that the successive vaccine rollout doesn't mean that everything else will suddenly be a success to and testing and diagnostics have being by far the weakest point in the whole system. All the way through such anxieties is significant because they lead us back as always in the story the pandemic to the mind the prime minister his stop-go approach to covid restrictions his own brush with mortality state pool. His consciousness that his place in history is as likely to be defined by how judges his handling of covid as by the success or failure of brexit. Talking to those who know him best. I was struck by how important the threat of variances become the. Pm's thinking if he and his colleagues were laid to this particular party they are not leaving any time soon take the initially controversial instruction to healthcare professionals on december thirtieth to extend the time between the two vaccine doses from two three weeks to twelve weeks. An idea that had first been proposed by blair and then embraced by the prime minister. Here's professor jonathan van. Tom the deputy chief medical officer defending the change on l. bbc radio on january the thirteenth. I'm the bottom line is that We've all got older loved ones. And if we want to protect as many as we can as quickly as possible with a meaningful amounts of protection then the right strategy for us is to give the initial first dose and come back for the second when we've given more people the initial first those. It's really boiling down to. If you've got to grandparent's and you've got to vaccines. What do you do do pertain. Do you give two. Doses won't leave the other one with nothing in public. The government in its advisors emphasized the unpredictability of supply chains and the need to get at least one job into as many arms as quickly as humanly possible but vaccine supply was not the only issue as one number ten source puts it body end of the year. Boris was really aware of the minutes of the variants. He got the message. That high case rates would lead to more of them and who knows what might happen if one of them was truly vicious. A big part of the changed dosage plan was to reduce the risk of mutations by hopefully bringing down infection numbers even more interesting is the pointed caution that characterize the prime minister's lockdown exit plan on february twenty-second and differentiated sharply from previous promises of swift emancipation. I want to be frank about exactly what that means and be tradeoffs involved. I would be buccaneering is you. Put it with With people's lives right gradually to replace the protection afforded by lockdown. Our approach is to move with the utmost cab you've got to be humbled in the face of nature it is important and so to be to be cautiously cautiously cautious. This class reckless approach. To unlocking the country was intrinsically sensible. Johnson wants this to be the last lockdown and has been steered towards a less buccaneering approach in general by a new cohort of advisors but the change was also to a considerable extent the consequence of a specific concern that has not been hitherto reported according to one source. Close to the pm. What happened was this. The scientists told boris that the next month looked like a variant minefield that the genomic evidence made them very wary about february and march and what surprises the virus might have in store. Of course they could. Well be wrong but the warning definitely got under his skin. This many even the reopening of schools on march the eighth was at risk a risk in the end. The boris johnson decided he had to take but tests conditions written into the whole lockdown plan. No accident apprehension about new and existing variants is present everywhere in the strategy. The trip wires and emergency brakes everywhere to enable the pm to slow down or halt the knocking process. And if you're wondering why you won't be able to go to your local pint. Before may the seventeenth at the earliest note towards kent south africa and brazil. Fear of the mutants looms launch. The pm's mind and with good reason along on the plus side. The vaccine companies are already gearing up to reengineer their jobs as the virus mutates. If someday it is an emergency we can go as rapidly as possible down a practice path to make the strain change of a quick and reliable. Thank you frisco. Well the approach the also not zeneca. Taking together is very similar to to that advice. I have just outlined so We all working to produce new versions of the vaccine. Both of these vaccine technologies a platform technologies that designed to easily accept a new antigen whether it's a different virus or just a different version of the virus that we were already working to protect people against so that's being done. We are generating in oxford the initial stocks of those new variants vaccine at all to astrazeneca who then upscale manufacturing We have plans for clinical trials to be taking place from the early summer with batches of the new virus vaccine a present the may be no requirement for new vaccine this year if the need arises the reengineer jabs will require three to four months of clinical trials and crucially a sufficient level of corona virus in the community for such trials to be meaningful. This is the trickiest about such trials. A sting in the tail if you like with any new treatment double blind tests mean that there is a group of patients that received the new product and a control group that receives a placebo and unless there is a measurable risk of them catching covert which is to say fire since circulating the test results. Don't tell you very much that aside. The pharmaceutical industry is already capable of producing a second generation booster by autumn. If the need arises assuming that the medicines and healthcare products regulatory agency gives the product green light and there were no manufacturing glitches but to huge questions linger. The first is what will happen when border controls are relaxed as they must be k. Economy is to stand a chance of recovering. It's one of the scariest. Variables says one minister if the last eleven months of taught us anything. It's the names. We give various pretty meaningless. They might come from south africa or brazil or wherever the next one is first detected but in the end sooner or later they'll end up here. The idea of the uk is a zero. Covert nation is doffed in any case unattainable. We have to assume that new variants will arrive on these shows during twenty twenty one behind the scenes astrazeneca which manufactures the for jobs is already working on so-called dedicated. Vaccines highly bespoke immunizations. That can be specifically to deal with a hotspot outbreak of a new mutation for this reason. Some of those advising the government thing that the pm was foolish to declare that this would be the last lockdown and think he will be forced to eat his words by the need for the very least localized quarantines to contain surges of new mutations. In fact the sixty eight page document setting out. The detailed provisions of the plan says that the government will indeed take a highly precautionary approach acting fast fast to address outbreaks but the public will remember the pm repeated promise the exit from closure would be irrevocable as one senior conservative figure puts it. This was a silly hostage to fortune by boris. The truth is the may well be a very that escape stack seen or diminishes it sufficiently tight controls are needed again. They might not be national but they'll still be required now. Even if the measures are entirely sensible the looked like a failure by the prime minister. Who promised that. The path out of lockdown was irreversible. The second overarching question is how to prevent developing countries from becoming permanent greenhouse for the variants. Some of which will be more dangerous and inevitably make their way around the planet the ethical case for assisting poorer nations with vaccination is of course compelling and underpins the covid nineteen vaccines global access or kovacs scheme by the end of twenty twenty. One kovacs aims to if administered two billion doses. His pope francis in august weighing in to make this moral case territory. It would be sad. If the rich are giving priority for the cogan nineteen vaccine would be sad. If this vaccine became the property of this that nation it is not universal and for everyone but the achievement of this objective is not just an altruistic goal successful vaccine rollouts in the developed nations will not stop the virus mutating elsewhere high case rates. Remember a what. The virus loves best as it itches to mutate and it is not fussy about where on the surface of the planet. It does so in principle. This is common ground. You will often hear it said by ministers public health officials in their counterparts around the world that nobody is safe until everyone is safe. Here in the united kingdom the birthplace of epa jenna pie. The world's first vaccine we are determined to do everything in our power to work with our friends across the un to heal divisions to heal the world so much for the statements of fine intent. The fact remains that one hundred thirty countries has still not received a single vaccine days. Seventy five percent of vaccines administered so far have been confined to ten countries at the science technology. Select committee meeting last week. The scottish nationalist. Mp carol monaghan pressed nadeem zaha we the vaccine deployment minister on this very point. I think our interest is the world's interests which is to protect as many people as rapidly as possible. Obviously our priority has to be any party has to be the safety and protection of its own citizens and that's exactly my focus and the team's focused on both supply and deployment but nevertheless it is equally. Which why it was. The inception of the backseat toss was the remit was both a. You're secure the vaccines the uk but also think about and secure and help the rest of the world of because until everybody safe The the virus will continue to spread. And that's why so important. Which is why the prime lead on this at the g. Seven as well. You can feel the hallways squirming between two positions on the one hand. The absolute priority of vaccinating uk citizens on the other the strategic pointlessness of doing so unless the rest of the world is vaccinated to at this the fact that developing nations may end up with vaccines unused by richa countries. That quickly made redundant or at least less potent by variants. The wealthy nations use the reengineer jobs. The less affluent have to make do the leftovers and me downs with the result. That even more mutations may arise in their territories in the end the distinction between domestic and foreign strategy against kobe is a false dichotomy. It's one single campaign fought on countless terrains. In bewildering variety of ways populist governments hate this they hate uncertainty. they like simple answers to complex questions. They wanted to get brexit done and they did now. They want to get covid done and see the vaccine as the means of doing so except that one of the defining characteristics of lethal virus perhaps the defining characteristic is uncertainty and unpredictability. Along corona virus has not yet mutated in such a way that it escapes vaccine protection and there is no intrinsic reason to think that it is going to bought it might. That's the point and that's what everybody involved in the campaign against covid has to behave as if it is going to happen. This is how professor wendy barclay of imperial college. London put it the same select committee meeting. I don't think we will see a complete escape. I think that what we will see is that we'll see a gradual loss vickers e and at some point. We will need to make a decision. About how low does that miss much go before. We need to update the vaccine at a time. When ministers instinct to waive the british flag and talk of businesses reopening families reunited and summer holidays. This is a tough constraint to accept they yearn to make unconditional promises inc release dates indelibly into the calendar and get the country ready for the party of the century. But they can't they just. Can't this vicious virus lost the battle of the vaccine but has not yet conceded defeat in the war. 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03/15/2021 - HOUR 2 - Right & wrong

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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03/15/2021 - HOUR 2 - Right & wrong

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Dad come home. we're lost are we. We don't know any of the dogs in neighborhood. They're all fried. Bought the home for the dogs because it had a great backyard and a great front yard. Run around the love that they right. Now it's You know it's like when you move into a new neighborhood the first day you don't know where the dry cleaners is at you. Don't and i'm human. And i'm gonna get all round match. The dogs can get their bearing. That's of course the voice of joy taylor and here we go into monday. Colin right colin wrong. Where colin was right. We predicted cam. Newton new england running back. And why not. There's a lot of quarterbacks in the market none of them for fourteen million for one year. Listen they have an actual no line every quarterback better in their second year with the team. They're running backs or more than salt enough. And we know their defense guys opting back. It'll be good. They feel like nine seven ten and sixteen and again. Let's be fair about this. Camp got cova did in the middle of the season so he missed games then he came back he was awful but in the last nine games he won five of them. Lost four had ninety passer rating had twelve total touchdowns and had a sixty six completion percentage. So this idea. And for the record working with new england's awful skill people so i. It was so funny listening to boston. People complain about the whole weekend. Go to his last nine games. What else is on the market. One year fourteen million. You could get another quarterback for that you can literally go get sam darnold for that. I don't know. I think it's an obvious move. We predict that it. It happened where colin was wrought. I didn't think aaron jones in the green bay packers would agree to a contract. First of all he was overlooked at a high school. He was overlooked in college. He was overlooked draft. I figured you'd be like i'm tired of being overlooked. Give me the money but a smart move by aaron jones. This is why i like him. He took a little bit less money than the market and he ends up on a great team right. This team has been of the. Nfc championship is also aaron. Rodgers behind him. he's also got green. Bay's always done a really good job. Drafting and developing offensive lines. This is a smart player this apart player. That's like listen. It's great for my brand and he's got a couple of big charities. I'm packer. I have a really good offensive line. I have a veteran quarterback that can audible miata trouble. And if i swing out of the backfield he can hit me. This is what smart players do. It's it's your money not mine. But if i'm running back the first thing i want to know about is my own line in my quarterback and i should've seen matt and aaron jones packers good for you. It's a great combo. They're good together where colin was right. Tom brady guys say about winning tom. Brady's about winning. He restructured his deal. Again he'll be nine million dollar cap hit next year which is twentieth among quarterbacks for easily the greatest quarterback of all time. He's always been willing to push money down the road and it's interesting as tampa is able to because at tom's nine million dollars resign. Everybody levante davis shack barrett and they can resign. Everybody other teams. Can it. Looks like the nfc saints have an appeal off. We'll find out. What seattle does they've already peeled off. Carlos dunlap but it looks like tampa's even better where colin was wrong. Dak finally did sign a monstrous long term deal with dallas. I don't know why jerry jones would wait for two years. And then give back everything good for deck. But he got everything. He got the years he can't franchise tag him. He's got a no trade clause. Couldn't ya done that a year and a half ago. But i was to the point. Where franchise tag him. Even for dax sake take thirty seven million and go back to the market every year. We need like seven quarterback. He'd be the number one quarterback on the market but they went long-term. They waited to the last moment and daquan easily. Where colin was right. Trae land is my number two quarterback in the draft. There's five first round quarterbacks three or not gonna work just you know it's not going to be a five five trae. Lance is my number two after trevor lawrence and after his workout. Friday scouts are now saying. Wow we see josh on buffalo. He calls all the protections. I college team. That is not the way it works. He's throwing one career interception watching the guy in shorts. And i know i have that grainy youtube video but i've never thought of talent is hard and physically big strong accurate and now the scouter saying the same thing it was a wow worked out by trae lands where colin was wrong about the five six weeks ago. I said the miami heat were a one year bubble wonder and since then they've caught fire there now a four seed. I always loved eric's expulsed driving. He's a top two or three coach in the nba. Thought you know last year it was a little bit of a bubble thing but now they're red hot hottest team in the nba. Call him that a lot of. Its jimmy butler. Listen when jimmy butler. They're just not the same team. Defensively when jimmy butler plays since he returned in january from an injury they're number one in defensive rating their foreign ten this year when jimmy butler doesn't play so you know we talk about valuable jimmy butler outside the bron- maybe the most valuable player in the league on both ends of the floor. James harden may be more talented but james harden isn't as valuable because he didn't play on one end when butler plays miami wins. When he doesn't they're not only don't have the best score. They're not the same team. Defensive where colin was right the kansas city dynasty slew down last six weeks blown out in the super bowl. Now they got to replace both their tackles. Good luck doing that in the draft. We always said these dynasties if they ever occur. Never last as long as you and people forget in the history of the nfl. There's only been five dynasties. Green bay pittsburgh san francisco dallas in new england. That's it. The media loves kansas city. And they should new england's academic They were the opposite of a firework show. I mean let's be honest New england was a lot like alabama sort of drab dynasty and kennedy's all sorts of fireworks and fun and flash and speed and a big arm quarterback but these things are hard and kansas city. Now little headache where colin was raw. What in god's name is happening with carmelo anthony. He is suddenly shooting ninety. Two percent of the free throw line and last six games forty percent from three and fifty percent from the field so cj mccollum has been out for a while and then Catch the center is out so it's essentially dame and mellow and we all know dame's great but carmelo. Anthony is having a resurgence. The best in the last six games the best he's ever shot free throws the best. He's ever shot three pointers and as good as he's ever shot field goals so it's dame mellow and a bunch of kids and whereas portland right. Now is a good for portland. Where colin was right. Joel embiid got hurt over the weekend. I like him. i think he's a great player. But i've said when a big guy gets hurt early watch out. He's only played in forty six percent of his game since he was drafted and now thankfully he's only out for two to three weeks. But this is what the fourth fifth or six injury where embiid. We'll have to miss significant time. He's never played more than sixty four games he is. No question is a remarkable talent. He's funny on social. He's got leadership qualities but folks. It doesn't matter who it is when you're a big and you get hurt early. You get her off. And that's why. I've said if i had the move simmons or embiid i'd probably move in be even though. He's a much better player than simmons where colin was right. Never been into this one thing in college. Basketball and kentucky had their worst year since nineteen twenty seven. John calipari has been there. Eleven years one title and only four final fours despite the fact. They've had twenty-nine first round picks far more than anybody else in college basketball and the problem with the one and done you're having to re boot chemistry. You bring in four or five new starters. She got thirty five games in a season the first twelve their loss the next twelve they start to gel and the next twelve. They're looking at the nba because they're so damn talented. I love the college. Basketball is given the gun. Zagazig bill in nova's the nose aren't mid majors. Don't get me wrong. They're good programs but it just shows john. Calipari was the celebrity of college basketball like four years ago. They're not they're not recruiting at the same level. They're not winning the same level. Twenty-nine first round guys. They're not in the tournament. One and done to me is a lot of flash one title eleven years right now by the way right now this morning gonzaga last five years better program in kentucky bayer. There are better program more consistency putting a ton of guys in the nba winning their conference. So there you go tournament so this it starts friday thursday. They do some playing games. Fridays when it gets cooking. So they're going to be some upsets. There's always a a twelve beats five every year. We know that in fact it happens twice but nine of the last twelve years in the tournament a number one is wanted so you can rinse and repeat at the committee but the team that we argue. That should be in never went. It's funny. I was talking to a friend. Who's a michigan state spartan. All year he complained about. How crappy is team is. They got blown out nine times and then he's yelling at the tv. We better get in. We will be robbed. Didn't you tell us all your how much hated your team. People back on their team all years. I can't believe we were left out your blown out a dozen times. What do you want if you're concerned about being left out. There's probably a chance that you might not as regional called bubble supposed to be the bob. I'm just really happy that they're having tournament so am i. It's it's we weren't really sure how this was all going to play out with college sports but everyone sending amazing job and i'm excited for all this and also college. Sports smooth is pro sports because in pro sports you have a billionaire that can write a twenty five million dollar check. It's logistically not the same sport but we come to fox. The murdoch family is got us getting tested every day. They write a big check. If i own this company. I'd be like oh you look like you don't have covert go ahead. Go to work. I mean that college you're askin colleges to put ten million dollars into testing this. I'm saying it's not it's logistically not the same sport it's not run the same. There's more schools. Everyone has different budgets. There's no way to regulate it like that. But i'm really happy that they're having ornamental. My jonathan vilma former saint played with drew brees coming up next one more herd the herd streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen. Live or on demand whenever you like. Hey this is jason mcintyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast straight. Fire with jason mcintyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat. Every day straight fire gets you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines accurate stats to help you win big at the sports book and all the best guests. Do yourself a favor and listened to straight fire with jason mcintyre on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. 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That's the most bella check has ever paid for a pass catcher first of all second of all. They can't draft tight end and wide receivers. So they did it. I know gronk. This is a really good signing. He has a little bit of aaron hernandez where he does running back humane wide. Receiver could be an age back. He could be a title. He's bella check. Aaron hernandez was the perfect player for belgium. He could move them all over the field. I love the signing. This is a great signing. What they're telling you is with our fifteenth pick. Were probably not gonna be able to move up and get kyle pits. Who's the best tight end prospect. I think i've ever seen in my life. And so they went did listen the last offensive skill person drafted. They made a pro bowl was gronk so they have struggled in this space. This is a jonnu. Smith is a very good offensive player. He's chess piece. Big straw stronger than aaron hernandez the late aaron hernandez but similarly you can move them all over the field. You can do a multitude of things and by the way four years. Fifty million thirty-one guaranteed so. It's not much of a cap hit. This is the way to do. It now was smart. Okay so now. Cams got a really good offensive line. Camp got very solid running backs camps got an elite tight end so see now now try to land decent receiver in the draft or two. But you know this. This is why. Get cam like defensive. Guys in cam's not my favorite but one year fourteen million for cam. I could still draft a quarterback so reasonable. It's incredible understand what the pushback is. Yeah i all weekend. I watched the boston stuff. I was almost like laughing. I'm like you guys. What is the market you. There's nothing else sam. Darnold it but a questions be. That's giving the it's never happening. It's never happening there individually. It's never happening so what everybody's complaining about stuff. What's the option. What we'll complainers. Do they bring problems. Not slip this show. This show is. I am known in my neighborhood. My new neighborhood is mr optimism or jonathan vilma of fox sport. Nfl analyst is now joining us. Live ten years super bowl. Chance multiple pro bowls six years of the saints so when you first go to new orleans. New played withdrew for six years. You hear about drew you hear about drew. You hear about a lot of guys and then you're in the locker room with it. What was your first impression. Jonathan of drew brees. My first impression was yeah he was kind of a dork. Be quite honest. he's like cade. I get there and say hey great to meet you etc. And i remember playing against them. Rows with the jets. And here's what the chargers and played a couple times against each other and it. I couldn't make has details of if he's trying to be cool guy this how he is or you know what. What's the deal with them and You know after we start having many kamson and then we go into training camp. And then i realized that he is the real deal man he he is. Awesome the real deal. Yeah it was a commitment. Was it verbal was it just. I mean certain guy. You know jonathan. There may be four guys in the locker room that our leaders now that that the locker room can have all sorts of talent. What wasn't about his leadership. He was when you talk about the process you know diving into the process fall in love with the process. He's always the first person i think of view was the shining example of falling in love with the process. You know great story. I have is when talking about many camping training camp. When we do our walk throughs we would have the walk through and all five receivers go out on route. He would throw it to one receiver. Let's say it was marcus colston. And then he would literally go and vision himself throwing up the other four receivers and not just like alright a slow little throw. It was as if he were still. He still had the ball. And with douse. The i read. And he would move his feet. He gets shoulder square. He throw ball elbow up everything and he did this every day for six years. I was there for six years. And i know he's still did it when i wasn't there and it was when i couldn't believe it. And then you you talk about the process of being there. The first one there all the time and the the way that he approached the game never got too high on the highs. Never too low on the lows it was always about the process fallen off the process and he was that guy made a shining example of it. Yeah we were talking about free agency in seven biggest contracts in the last few years none of them hit. And i always said i don't love the messaging for free agency that i'm gonna bring a guy into my locker room and pay more than ninety five percent of my locker room. What am i telling my current players. And i i wouldn't at fox did that and brought somebody in. I would ask the same question in your career in the nfl. Did you ever sense that. Words like menu won't pay this guy but you're paying a guy from another team that does it sometimes rub guys wrong way. It rubs guys the wrong way when you don't know the other intangibles of that player on if you have a great leader in the locker room in the i think this is the part. That's always missed by or the disconnect between front office and players and coaches. You can have a guy that he may not be the top player at his position but what he does for the rookies how he keeps everyone in. Check the the intangibles value that he has a leader. That's what the guys start to question because you're not just taking away good player. He's obviously good because is in the nfl. You're removing that leader. And now you bring in a big money guy and we question as players. Okay what is he gonna bring to the table. Besides the athleticism right. You can say okay. He's making plays. That's great but if he's a headache if he's always late if he doesn't practice are if we have to sit here and constantly baby him to get out there and play. It's like you should have just thrown that money back at the guy we had previously and fortunately never with the saints. I never had A scenario like that it was. We drafted well. We did well in in free agency. Didn't have to let go of you know really solid guy to bring in someone a headache so that that didn't happen but i can imagine going against the or not going against but Being with guys that you had a relationship with them and you know they bring to the table as far as leadership and then all of a sudden. They're gone because of the money. And then now you're bringing someone else and it's like you thought you did better and you really didn't because all the other things off the field are headache force. You know. it's funny. Russell wilson seattle. There's a lot of rumors and joy join. i are takeaways. Listen brady and belichick never went to dinner once in twenty years. Get over it. Who says you have to love your boss. I mean i'm sorry but pete and rosser good for each other. I mean let's be honest. John didn't probably love every defensive coordinator. I mean there's tension in locker rooms between players and coaches all the time. Isn't there of course that's what i love about football because it teaches you and it's similar to the game of life you don't act to love everybody in this whole coon by. Everyone thinks it's like coon by day in the locker room for teams. That are winning. Oh man of course you have issues. Yeah problems like when we won the super bowl. I remember on our run to the super bowl. We had multiple fights in the locker. No no joke. Multiple fights in the locker room. And you know what. You view squabble. It out and you know things happen and then you move on right because that. That's what family does. A real family is not always sitting there. Everything's on the up and up and it's all good real families. They have issues they have squabbles. They have visas. They figured out they talk through it. Sometimes they fight through it but at the end of the day. They don't let it affect the main goal. And so when you look at wilson an mp. Carol yeah okay. They don't like each other so like you said who cares. They figure out a way to win. They want a ton of games together. Russell wilson's one of the best quarterbacks in the game p the best coaches in the game they found a way to make it work and really the only people making worse are us right the media. We're the ones still talking about it because we're not in that locker room understanding those dynamics. Hey what does circling back to new orleans. James is very productive. Passer takes some is a very quirky natural athlete. Although to me doesn't feel like sixteen seventeen game franchise guy if you had if you had to guess today who's their starter next year james and that's what it feels like to me jason. I watch taste him. So what always happens with new quarterbacks four or five games to have last success and then you'll see them kind of You know. I don't wanna say falter. But they kinda just don't have as much production and all you need is a defensive coordinator coaches players on the defensive side. You need time to watch film on right and now you can start to break them down and now you gain tendencies and now you know k. Tasting hill third and shore. It's a sweet sweet sweet. We already know this right. We already know i. It's taken down. If he's gonna pass is going to be either a deep ball or it's going to be three outside right so when you start to learn these these little tendencies of the players now you can start to really game plan for them. And so that's when i look at the longevity of tasting hill you can gain platform after about five or six games and it's going to be the same stuff and it's gonna be real easy. The problem is really chimera. And michael thomas so when i look at james winston i seen them have success. He threw for five thousand yards. Yes he led the nfl interceptions. But he's still do for five thousand yards. And that's after everyone had seen film matra film tape after tape of what he can and can't do. So if you look at the quarterbacks that sean payton this ad in his career and i know we look at him and drew brees a lot and drew brees. They'd throw interceptions at times. I would find it. Very very hard to fathom jameis winston going out there and throwing as many interceptions as he did with the bucks. And i'm looking saying cut that in half let's get him down instead of thirty interceptions fifteen interceptions with five thousand yards. That's a damn good sees a really good see right yeah that's my takeaway exactly on him. If a guy's productive. I can figure out i can take away some mistakes but i can't. I can't take a three thousand yard throw to a five thousand yard thrower. But i can take thirty six to seventeen by just implementing a system where there's less risk in the passing game. Jonathan vilma great seeing you. Thanks for coming on today. Fox sports. Nfl analyst back again. Thank you bet. Save big on your water and energy bills navigate. Tankless water heater instant and endless hot water. Spotlight comfort go. Tankless made simple dot com. Tankless made simple dot com. It's called navien. Joy taylor the news. Turn on the news. This is the third line new. I can't teach ceiling. But i can t i can raise your floor but i can't teach ceiling so have you got a big ceiling all take and worry about the flaws. We've seen james be extremely productive. That's that's why he wanted to go to the saints getting the system. That's going to simmer down a little bit. Yeah we don't need the highs and lows. That's not what you do with the quarterback position and you're going to quarterback school puts payton and drew brees so it's great situation. I thought that was cute. Jonathan vilma was coming to us from his dad. Cave sign said. Dad gave you so. The bears used their franchise tag on wide receiver. Allen robinson this year that does not mean. He's a lot to suit up for them next season. Robinson reportedly has zero plans to sign the franchise tag in the near future and he could hold out if negotiations on a long term contract. You not go. Well he's set to make around eighteen million this season if he plays the franchise tag. Had one hundred receptions these great over twelve hundred yards and six touchdowns and obviously the bears are looking to make big swing for russell wilson. If he's not on the bears. Russell wilson this job in great he is there goat. You take him. he's fantastic. That's why it's kinda strange if they're not. I mean i guess if they're trying to keep continue to go after russell wilson and figure out what they're going to do with the quarterback i just don't think the franchise tag but i don't think chicago's nearly as attractive as washington. Washington has thirty eight. I don't even close. I agree with you. i mean i. Washington isn't a win now situation bears but they're their gm and their coacher on win now. Contracts last year allen robinson's. Not happy isn't as great as it was a few years ago wasn't nearly as good. It good wasn't nearly as good. I mean i get it. it's chicago. I love chicago. But there's gotta be more if you're leaving his. You're unhappy with football things seattle. Which is seems that. That is what russell wilson is unhappy with. Then i go to another situation where you're not sure what the football things are going to be. Washington is definitely a better situation so drew brees is officially retired from the nfl out yesterday. Twenty seasons in the league and he made the announcement on instagram with health from his kids. Thirteen years old. That on the first take do it was very cute was very Drew brees like retirement announcement. You always see his family and his wife and kids on the on the sideline and at all the games. I'm very excited. That is a That is something especially when you have younger kids. When you do retire from the league's and my brother went through this. He he really wanted to. You know spend time with them and it's not that football is a little more unique in that. You're not traveling as much as baseball or basketball or hockey. Because you you have sixteen games like less games but you know you're the possibility all the time and you are missing a lot of things you rely on your family to make sure that the kids are going to practice. And i'm sure his wife's gonna love having to do some of the running around with them but I'm happy for jubilees. He had an incredible incredible career. I hall of famer. It does more showing the game. They're the final game missy. Tom brady it does like we didn't have one final sendoff with saints fans because that place is one of the most amazing places to play in the nfl so would have been full for them to be able to give him an ovation will next year when all the fans are bad. Oh god yeah. They'll have a drew brees day. God it will be insane. It will be. I mean he's. I've always especially the past couple of years that he was better comparison to tom. Brady what we often do. Aaron rodgers and then there's no not obviously he's incredible i about hall of famer and mazing record book is brady and brees. And they're also kind of grinders. It's gonna take too long for me to even read their records. The jewelries has it's a. It's it's obnoxious and winning a super bowl winning as vp. Walter payton man of the year. Nfl comeback player of the year. Just just an incredible career. So congrats to drew brees aa tournament. We'll be missing some notable teams sierras. We've been discussing today. Regulars taki duke and louisville did not make the field sixty eight this year. It's the first time since nineteen seventy six at all. Three schools have missed the tournament in the same year. Now louisville's a chance to make it if a team currently in the field fails to make cope with protocol. But obviously that's that's gonna be an outlier situation for them making it like they still didn't actually tournaments i. I'm very excited for the tournament. I love march madness and verse weekends. the best. it's the best friday saturday now. This year. It's friday saturday sunday. Money out there doing switched it up a little bit where it starts later. And they're all playing in in the same place as well. Obviously kobe changed. The first weekend is by far and away the best and now he's loved that there's one one team that makes a run everyone gets the learn about them and their school and their players. And i'm really excited for georgetown yuccas. Patrick ewing hit has not gone great so far and then they had a great tournament and the all. This is interesting. I love it citing basketball's legendary. I'm really excited for the tournament. Ewing a superstar. He's a great player. Who in coaching is that. Work ethic like juwan. Howard made a lot of money. You could see him going into coaching. I'm not going on with recruiting. But you want to hear and patrick ewing if you ask people close to those programs we'll guys are grinders plug. It's like it's like it's very rare where the magic johnson try coach. He's like. I'm not interested in this well coaching grind. It's brutal brew. When you're doing college you have to recruit. You're you're dealing with the nba young superstars. You know there's different things to each sport. Most of your great coaches were marginal players. Very rare when you get the guy would two hundred million dollar net worth ewing and john howard. And then you talk to people in like oh. They're recruiting nuts. I mean it shows the passionately after the game. It's great the news. Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by heard. Lie so good stuff today. Drew brees is done. Mario davis former teammate of drew brees stopping by today. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. am pacific on fox. Sports radio athas one and the iheartradio app. Hey this is jason mcintyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast straight. Fire with jason mcintyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat. 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Llc member finra sipc emerged twenty twenty one general dynamics information technology signature virtual events series see vision brought to life with it and over forty leading partners showcasing real technology solutions that make an impact today and pave the way for tomorrow join leaders across government and industry to explore how to accelerate digital modernization for your it. Enterprise take a deep dive into emerging technology that will transform the world and learn. How defense agencies are advancing the mission with cloud registered now at dot com slash emerge ten years in the nfl multiple pro bowls and a super bowl champs. Seven with green bay and greg jennings fox. Sports analysts now. Joined us law. I was actually encouraged. Erin jones got overlooked in highschool got overlooked in college. You got overlooked in the draft. And i thought if i was him i'd just take the money i'm tired of being overlooked. Were you surprised. I was kinda surprised. He signed with green bay. Were you i really was. I really was in kudos to him for making the decision that best suited him not only financially but but as a player career wise. He's gonna be a great situation for the next four years one of the best quarterbacks to ever do it one of the best offenses that we've seen in the last four years or so so i mean it's a great situation for aaron johns. Not think he made the right business. Decision in aaron rodgers is applauding. Yes thank you thank you. You know the free agents. It's really interesting. Greg because we were talking during the break. You know a lot of times. Free agency is paying for good players this year. You got some great players out there and they won't get good contracts when you were in the league. Were you a fan of free agency or did you. Green bay didn't play a lot in it but sometimes you bring it a big contract. The guys don't like him. Nobody knows him everybody else's like why are you paying him. And not us your overall thoughts on agency on how to build. It really depends on where you are. And so for me in green bay. I wanted to stay in green bay. So i didn't want to enter into free agency but when you have the opportunity and you see the amount of money that's out there in the potential that's out there or team to grab a player and pay him according to the value that they see that they're getting they're worth every player wants to possibly experience that free agency market however like you alluded to this year. It's just different teams. And i think we gotta understand that there. There's been a couple blueprints that have been established. The new england patriots established the culture of the blueprint of not paying players. And doing it in a way that makes them better long-term in sustained success because they have cat room. They have their marquee player in their quarterback do came into agreement with that culture in that way of thinking and then you have players that establish blueprints. Tom brady being on the forefront like he's taking less he's done his entire career and i think now a lot of players are looking at him saying wait. This is how we should all be trying to do it. Especially when you've already been paid at least at one time. And i think when we go back to aaron jones it was interesting to see him take less. You know every agent free agent every agent is going to say that they're player got more but it was interesting for us to see him. Take less knowing that this was his first payday. Yeah no it is the you know i. It's funny about this. The free agent stuff like you know generally good players hit the market. And i said it's like homes. I've bought some homes in my life. But i'm always cynical. There's gotta be something wrong with his home. Why why are the owners. Leaving the whole. I always want to know the story what happened. Tell me what happened. I can't just say oh beautiful home all by same with free agency. Even though i like players i'm always a little cynical wise kenny golladay on the market. Why would you let kenny golladay go. Why why's will fuller on the market. Is that healthy. I mean is that if you ran a team. Is that how you look at it. I don't think i would look at it like that. Obviously every team is is financially strapped. Different with the cap. And when you look guys like kenny golladay every in. I've always said this. Every player entering into the national football league in any professional sport is going to be labeled with something that kind of values them right and so with kenny. Golladay can he stay healthy. We know what kind of player he is when he's on the football field and he's producing he can go up and attack the ball. He's a huge receiver that gives a quarterback are huge radius in an area to miss. But can he stay healthy. And that's the question. That's what you're hoping you can get out of him because you know the production is there when he is on the field but when he's not there it's like man i'm paying this guy and he's never on the football field so if he can stay healthy. He's one of those guys that's in my opinion. He's a must have so. Drew brees legacy. How many times did you face him on him. What did you think what's your takeaway on his career. I love everything about drew brees. There's there's there's things that we can say that we didn't like about a player decisions or or things or comments that was made but overall drew brees did it the right way. He's always carried himself as the most consummate pro. He was one of those guys that you just looked up to. You always wanted to see what drew brees all saints for doing especially offensively and as a quarterback and as a receiver. You just always were so enthralled in kind of ingratiating with what they did and how they did it in how he led them to it. So google breeze i. I commend him for the career that he's had the success that he's had nothing. He's going to be tremendous in his his now future in broadcasting on this side but drew brees than he all-time great and i will say this. I have an affinity for drew brees because my first pro bowl actually participating in i got the catch a touchdown pass from drew brees. I just remember that to this day. Because i was like man i've caught and touchdown passes rogers brett farr and now drew brees like it was different. It wasn't the regular season game but it was still drew. Brees how you back then. Twenty three twenty four hours. I was twenty. No i was shoot. I was twenty six twenty seven. How old are you now. Twenty six twenty seven. I have an age colin. I'm thirty seven now. You do look good by the way. If i told you tomorrow if i told you tomorrow. Russell wilson is now a member of the washington football team. Ron rivera dot him. Because there's a lot of stuff out there. What would your reaction be. I wouldn't be shocked. I really will. Now be shocked to see russell. Wilson moved in. This is what i think about when i see. Russel wilson of wilson in seattle seahawks Relationship in that dynamic once. You've you've tried to make things right. You've tried to express what you wanted. You've seen how others have done it. We all watch we all observe and we know what we like. We know what works. We know it doesn't work. Russell wilson has been a part of organization that he knows what success looks like. He knows what success can be. And he's seen it with. Tom brady with aaron rodgers with so many other of his counterparts across the national football league and he's entering the back end so what's most important to him. Now is being not only protected but legacy like he wants to win. He wants to win the right way. And i think again like i said the blueprint to winning at the quarterback position. You have to be confident and comfortable with where you are and take a little bit less so that the team can then be rewarded for what you have done. And you're going to be able to have success regardless yeah where there's smoke there's fire. He's clearly unhappy. Greg jennings good senior again but prochet stop by absolutely yeah. Aaron jones like greg said aaron didn't take the most money i contract and he's a position where after this contract he won't get another one so that that's a big boy grownup decision by aaron jones. He was like. I'm not gonna take the most money. I'm not going to get any money after that. Nobody's gonna pay a running back from four years from now so in to me. That's why he's known as a great locker room guy like he's not all about the money. Scott pelley said this former patriot guy. He helped build a dynasty talked about tom brady recently and he said people forget this. He was taken pay cuts way before giselle and he goes one of our first. Big contract deals is brady turned to scott pelley and said like how much is enough like at some point. I want to win games. It's it's i. Don't play for a long time and keypad. My bank account but on sunday i want to play with is on good guys around me and it's paid off for brady like this is not new for brady. He's been rebooting contract long before giselle boeung. And i've said that now lebron of course one everywhere but when your wife can be a supermodel or you can make forty million dollars. Sixty million dollars in close and there's not many of those players but that's where i was. Lebron i'd be like i'd rather play twenty nine minutes than thirty eight. And that's where i think. A superstar athlete has to drew. Brees took all the money for about three years. The saints good. Then he was like i want a better offensive line. He took less money saints. Were better for the legends. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 648: The Tragedy of Colin Kaepernick

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 648: The Tragedy of Colin Kaepernick

"Keep yourself in the show it's Long. Coaching type. Flights. Check out. The podcast. Cases. Clayton. Kershaw. Don't forget for like a month responded follow them on twitter visit. Todd Test Dot Com for more. Tuning into the GMC football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I am your host Kendrick Hello Everybody I. Hope you're having a fan tastic day. We got a lot to get into today some of these topics I. I'm in the middle ranting mood, I guess put it that way some of these things I'm a bit of a ranting mood There are some things that have happened over the last few days reports that have come out some interviews that have been done. I have law thoughts on a lot of things when they get into all that quickly I want to get into this so North Dakota state. Is One of the schools that you could say either unfortunately or fortunately wasn't going to have any games that season their season had been canceled along with many other schools and that was a big deal for their quarterback trae lance because he is he is essentially number three on everyone's draft boards when it comes to quarterbacks in this coming NFL draft place him behind. Trevor. Lawrence of course and they place him behind Justin fields and this is going to be a big year for him. There's Going to be as last year, show out show, we can do again and then hopefully either he can make his draft stock rise or fall whatever might be and it's always interesting at least from my point of view, it seems like the number three quarterback in every single draft at some point in time get some pub as they could be taken like the they can be the second quarterback taken or they could be the first quarterback taken I remember when Josh Allen was in the draft. He was he was always placed behind darnold and Baker, and he was placed behind these guys. He was even at times place behind Josh Rosen and yet somehow someway all of a sudden the articles are they coming out about how Josh Allen like taken number one overall you had of course, mahomes draft with he and Watson and Trubisky and many people had trubisky behind Watson kind of battling mahomes for that number two spot but all. Of a sudden everyone's talking about how trubisky he might be the I chord by taking in the whole draft and sure enough he was and while I think there was a drastic mistakes. These kinds of things can just happen there them start to come out a certain guys get public the right time, and there was always that chance trae lance was going to have no season. He now has one game that they will play against Central Arkansas. And that will be his one showing for the season and I think that could go either great or it could go terribly wrong. I would probably lean with this is going to go terribly wrong for him. And the reason why I say that is because if that is his one time, that's one chance to show himself. I mean, wow, gate a great team. A great offense can have a stinker. Right, a great player can have a stinker game if TRAE, Lance goes out there. In doesn't play well and I, must I must say Central Arkansas it's GonNa be a tough game for him or anything like that. But just by the off chance that there's the the practice, the scheduling, it's just a bit out of whack it's not normal for him. He's not in his groove it's just one game. They haven't had any games up until that point to kind of warm up and get into a flow if that game. Doesn't go well for him I'm curious as to how many teams are going to hold that against him. How far will his draft stock plummet? The League is already kind the set at quarterback I'm just really interested to see how would how would draw but I also think that's just ridiculous. I mean they're literally giving teams a game for just individual players at this point is what they're doing. They're doing strictly because of trae Lance and some people might think it's You know some people like it. Some people think it's cool. Some people think it's dumb I I think I would lean more towards I. think that's Kinda Dumb. I don't even know why you would have the one game I think that that game could be more detrimental than Than Good but it is for this they're going to do whatever is they're going to do. But anyway. So we got lots together to get into. I'm feeling kind of in the ramp mood. There was some reports and interviews done over the last few days and I have a thoughts on them. I WANNA get into Cam Newton I WANNA get into some Jaguars talk because I have. I have a real gripe right now with the Jaguars. I'll go ahead I'll talk about all that I WANNA get into. Earl Thomas again some more reports have been coming out over the last few days and it's not looking good for Tom is let's put it that way, and then finally I wanna get into some Roger Goodell and Colin Kaepernick we are going to end the show on that. No, I have a lot to say about Roger. Goodell and Kabir Nick anyways. So the Patriots have been hit extremely hard by the opt-outs. Right? They had I was seven or eight total opt-outs it was they have the most in the league they lost multiple defensive players They lost some key off players and marcus cannon he opted out they lost their fullback, dont`a hightower he opted out they've had a lot of opt-outs on this team. On top of that when it came to free agency they loss Jamie Collins, they lost Kyle van Noy they awesome players. And they didn't really do anything to replenish him. They go in the free agency and make a grab for a guy like cloudy. They go in the free agency, make a grab for Everson Griffen. Then go early in the free agency in grab, Jack, they didn't do anything. They literally did nothing. I think what was I think they? I think the big free agent signing was like Marquees. And I think mark isley opted out. So I mean they're they're Kinda they're kinda working with nothing and so a lot of people were looking at the Patriots early in the offseason than they were going. Okay. So they have them, they have hoyer. They lost Brady of all the things also in free agency by the way guys they lost Tom. So he was also gone he's in Tampa Bay now and he's in probably you could say the greatest situation he has ever been when it comes to the overall offense of talent on the team maybe not the best offensive line that he's ever had in the world, but it's still solid of when it comes to the Patriots people kind of looked at them and said okay. So what exactly can we expect from them with jared to them? Presumably being the starter this guy was drafted just last year he attempted like four passes before bill literally pulled him they Tom Brady out tried to put the rookie and he threw a pick in his first series and then they said all right. Yeah. Now we're GONNA, go ahead and eighty six this game him out of there, and then we never saw jared's to them again, and by all accounts in practice he was not doing good. To put it bluntly, not doing good. He looks like a raw young quarterback of course, the Patriots eventually ended up signing Cam Newton, and some people they believed that the Patriots they sign them kind of as a kind of as a distraction because they had been fine and I think they lost some draft picks up for a filming incident in Cincinnati. That was a whole thing last season and some people they kind of just say another another feather in the cap to bill bell check on why there's some people say he's not the go. Because he needs to cheat because they always find some way to try and pick up some kind of an advantage against somebody and while I don't WanNa get into all of that, either way were found once again guilty of cheating and they were penalized by the League. On the same day they signed Cam Newton. And instantly, you had a lot of reports especially out of the Boston area people going on Boston radio wherever might be saying that you know they weren't sure. Cam. Newton could fit. They just were sure that Cam noon than Bill Belichick get along you know Cam Newton he he's a louder guy. He has a lot of personality. He has a big Ego Kenny check that ego at the door just house of all going to work. Well. ESPN's Mike Reese on the quarterback competition in New England a few days ago reportedly jared stem is fading out of the quarterback picture while he took a few eleven on eleven snaps for the first time since since last Thursday, at the time, this was posted. This was basically the Cam Newton show with a little Brian Hoyer mixed in it's hard to imagine the Patriots are turning back now another. Report came out and said, Cam Newton is running away with the Patriots quarterback job. There was another report talking about how how Cam Newton heavily controlled practice. He got the majority of the throws. He wasn't going anywhere any interceptions of Hoyer he came in did this thing but he did have an interception and it got to the point where jared steadham wasn't even practicing because he had a hip injury. One of my friends who is a big die hard patriots fan love. The Patriots remember he told me he was like Dude I. Really Hope Cam Newton is starting for us. I asked him I said why? As like jared stadiums already thrown seven interceptions in practice. Already. In like three three, four day span. Jared them apparently thrown. Seven interceptions an Hoyer I think he's in your head thrown to cam had thrown zero. And one of the things that people have obviously always talked about with CAM is accuracy. He's never really been a very accurate passer barely in a season has he completed over sixty percent of his passes lot many I. think his career completion percentage hovers around like fifty nine, percent, sixty percent, which is on the lower end. You would like your quarterback to be much higher than that. That's always been the knock against them. But by all accounts, he has been able to at least for the most part be turnover free in these practices. Here's my question the people when it comes to Cam Newton in New England and him supposedly winning the starting job him running away with it. Are we really surprised. Like literally. Surprised that Cam Newton is running away with the starting job. Cam Newton. At his peak? Let's just go at his peak. He was the runaway MVP. He led a team to fifteen in one. He did not have any outstanding weapons on offense. Do people remember who was willing to? Kelvin Benjamin was not there for that season who was his thousand yard receiver. Kelvin Benjamin was a rookie in the second year Kelvin. Benjamin was gone for the entire season. Do you remember he was selling to Ted Ginn? Greg Olsen. And he was the running game. They wrote that you'll obviously they had outstanding defense, but they were also one of the top scoring offenses. In the League now they had some games they came down pretty close to the wire. They almost lost to the giants at one point that season they obviously did end up losing to the Falcons and that it was basically a perfect season by Cam Newton he was outstanding while he wasn't as good in the second half of the season as he wasn't the first half he still ran away with the MVP Cam Newton is six. He's probably hovering around two fifty to sixty. He is an animal, he is an athlete. is so does naturally talented he can fling the ball. We see his arm strength we see his running ability. He's bigger than most players on the field. How how are we surprised that he's running away with this? How are we surprised at all? How how anybody really think that Cam Newton was going to be in a competition with jared stethem. And the Brian Hoyer. How did anybody think this? The only reason why I believe there is still a chance. Cam Newton doesn't start week one plain and simple is just because I think bill belichick wants to kick off the season with a guaranteed win and I think that what Brian Hoyer he's been in the system much longer Brian Hoyer i. do believe understand it better than Cam Newton. and Bill Belichick. He looks at the schedule He sees that they kick off the season against the dolphins the dolphins I still think they're sure about who their star is GonNa. Be I've seen some reports they're saying that. Is Looking like he could be the backup. Some are saying that he can start the season as the third stringer that he could start not only behind fitzpatrick but he could even star behind that. He could be behind Rosen and I think that they were GonNa do that it would simply be for his safety I really do think that I think if they were to do that, it would be simply for his safety they just simply didn't want him to get her they didn't want him to get killed This was they were basing this entirely off of how he was doing in practice by the way they Rosen has performed a bit better than to has, and so they're saying that Rosen at least at the moment is supposed to be their vaca but there is a competition there either way it seems like the train is rolling a for the dolphins to start Fitzpatrick. So against this Miami team that does have an improved defense, right? They do I think they would be bringing exhibiting how we're back who was their best cornerback they signed Byron Jones they made some other side I think Brown Shack Lawson brought us some other players They did draft They drafted another corner as well, but they drafted some offensive line help They'd still do have the volunteer Parker Ryan Fitzpatrick is a gunslinger and he is still mobile even at his advanced age the quarterback realm of things I think what is he thirties fitzpatrick thirty, six, thirty something like that but he can still move. But I do think that Bill Chuck wants to kick off the season at least on the high. No. So. If it's not Cam Newton I, think it would be Brian. Hoyer simply because he doesn't understand the system but just leaving all that man. Cape Cam. Newton. He got such a bad rap I. Think the Panthers Dated Cam Newton. So dirty with the way that they let him go. They met rule went out there saying Cam Newton's going to be our guy where you know that we plan to start the season with him. We have no plans to anything on. Then they go ahead and they signed Teddy Bridgewater. But then all of sudden they're saying now. But when we still we still want to keep Cam Newton, we don't have any plans. We Love Cam you know we might have a bit of accord by competition here and then all of a sudden and they go ahead and cut came Newton. They didn't even try them they just flat out cut him. I have a very, very hard time believing that Cam Newton didn't have a trademark that's just me. That's my personal opinion if you can trade. Nick foles. For a fourth. Round pick. When all nick foles really does have to his name if we're going to be honest, all nick foles has to his name is that one spectacular season with Philadelphia? and. He has the playoff run with the eagles. Those are the only things that he has. He doesn't have a long track record of success. He doesn't have this long track record of just blowing people away with his play. He's been up and down his whole career. The jags were still able to trade him. How did the panthers not. Trade Cam Newton they cut him in as as he kinda phrased that they just Kinda left him out to die. The narrative at that point on Cam. Newton. Was Not good. Many people trying to attack his character I never thought it was fair. This guy was Walter. Payton. Man of the year nominee he has been he was fantastic for the community when he was when he was with the Panthers I just I never understood it and especially did not understand. Why won't say that I have my own theories on why is that when he was signed by the Patriots? He was so heavily criticized criticized I have my own my own thoughts about that. But when I look at look at the Patriots schedule and I think about if Cam Newton was. So let's say Cam, Newton was the starter for from week one. Let's just go like eight games in. So the first day game. So they season against the dolphins I will go ahead and give the Patriots a win. There even a New England and even though there's no such thing really as a home co home field advantage anymore. I. Would just go ahead and give that to Cam Newton the bill Belichick I think the bill checks secondary is still good enough that whether it was fitzpatrick or whether it was who was to or whoever this at starting I think that bill bill is still smart enough. He has all the time in the world prepared for this game. When you give bill belichick extra time to prepare for an from an opponent, he usually embarrasses them, and while I do think that the opt outs do her I just think that the Patriots will be able to win that game they move on and they face the sea hawks not an easy challenge I do believe that they will lose that game then they go against the raiders. I think that the raiders they end up dealing with some injuries, a tyrod Williams, who is a WHO's bent on his career really a big play kind of receiver. He's currently her adding is a torn labrum, and while he said, he wants the triumph play through it. I, don't think it's GonNa work out that great. They do have hunter Renfro who's a really really good slot receiver and has been very very impressive they do have They do draft two receivers, Henry Rugs and somebody else. I can't remember the name, but they did draft to receivers. Lean heavily on them. They still do have their in waller, but again, raiders defense is not good. I think that Bill Belichick will be able to come in a Josh mcdaniels will come with a really good game plan to take advantage of their linebackers take advantage of their lack of a secondary lack of pass rush all those things and I think the win that game. So I think coming out of the gate, they'll be two in one. Then they going into the chiefs yet that's no and then they go against the broncos. I'm honestly going to say they're going to win that game. I really do believe I think I think the only reason why they wouldn't will be because the broncos defense is just smothering and they're going to create they're going to be a wreck havoc on Cam, Newton. But other than that I don't know if I trust Denver's offense in trust a younger quarterback against bill belichick members that crazy stat up there that would that bill belichick had only loss to a quarterback like under the age of What was it twenty five or something like that Mike One time and other than that. He had won every other meeting with those. I don't remember the exact age, but he doesn't lose the younger quarterback drew locked. This is only a second year this will be his first full. This'll be his season being the starter in everything being the full time starter but really really strange training camp strand practices no preseason I re they. They lost one of their top tackles I don't know if I can give it to a younger quarterback against Bill Belichick and it's just the respect I have for Bill Belichick in what he does to younger players. So I'M GONNA go ahead and they're gonNA win that game. Then they're going to go against the niners I'll put him down for all right there. So I mean through the first six games, I have them at three in three. In its with Cam Newton being the full time starter, then they go against the bills. I'm I'm really hesitant to I would love to take the bills I would I would love to say the bills are to win the game. The problem is I still don't trust Josh Allen Josh Allen against the Patriots is not good. He has never ever had. He's never had a good game against the Patriots I'll I'm not even sure if he's ever had necessarily a good game in general. In the NFL especially by his qbr's qbr's his ratings with pro football focus are always there just bad. They're really just bad but I think he he might be a guy where you kind of look outside the stats, I? Guess maybe I really don't know I'll go ahead and say the Patriots are GonNa win that game and then they go and they take on the jets I will say the. Patriots win that game. So I mean what at that point in time they're five and three, and then they go and they take on the Ravens in like another it's going to be an l. they take on the Texans I think there's going to be an l. they take on the cardinals that could be an l I like Collor Murray I don't really like the defense over there but ultimately, I think. It shaping up for New England to to be really close to like an eight and a kind team I think the over under has them at nine. I I. There's some people out there who are who are betting under and they're saying that there's no way the Patriots going to be that good I think. I think that with Cam Newton. Being on this team then being able to run some things, they've never been able to run before I still like Cam Newton I respect Cam Newton's game. Is he the most accurate in the world? No, but I think bill belichick and Scott McMillan Josh mcdaniels will be able to come up with something to really help him with that utilizing the runningback usually utilizing their slot receivers and everything I think that the Patriots. Could. Probably end the season around five hundred, maybe like seven and nine, eight, nine, seven, I do think that they can be a playoff team I haven't looked at their full schedule. I just looked at part of it right there, and that's just kinda how I how I would predict it. I think against some of these better teams like a ravens, the Seahawks, the chiefs Texans I think they're going to get. Swamped But against some of these other teams, kind of hovering around could be good like the the the bills and maybe the Ray, the Broncos I think that they those game could go either way. Those Games really could go either way. Against a team like the raiders because of defense is just that bad. Take them against the buffalo bills because I do not like Josh Allen Against Bill Bill check that is still such a mismatch maybe he becomes more accurate this off season maybe Stefan digs is the cure for his inaccuracy I have no idea I really have no I have no clue. but. I just think I'm not surprised that Cam Newton is running away with the job. I'm not. I think the disrespect to Cam Newton has been so intense and I don't understand it I think Cam Newton Rightfully, he cam Newton should have been picked up. By a team like the moment he got and I understand that you can give to give these players physicals you can them that kind of stuff. So you'd never knew exactly how healthy some of these players are well now you can. I just think Cam, Newton I, think a team like the chargers they really used Cam? Newton. I like Taylor a lot. I do I like Taylor. I Have I've been pumping up Taylor on this on this podcast but I do think Cam Newton there with the band probably even better. I just think there are a lot of teams like really could have used. Cam and I'm glad that the Patriots got him and I think the Patriots are going to be really really fun to watch this coming season. ANY COMING UP NEXT WE'RE GONNA talk some Jaguars what a poorly run franchise they are I think the jags are are are GonNa make some serious mistakes this coming season in this coming off season we're GONNA get into all of that coming up next. Listen Sports bettors. This is Brighton Ethan here to tell you about our favorite sports book and that's bet. US Football Basketball and baseball all back and that means it's time to get down your bits. 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You looking for help for your fantasy football team checkout GSM, see fantasy football podcast get to as best advice on who to start Buddhist it even who you should draft from sleeper picks, red hot lineups they got it all covered for you. That's GSM see podcasts dot com backslash fantasy, Dash, football, dash podcasts. We'll cover traditional dynasty few PR even I think. When you need fantasy help, there's just one showed up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GSM. See PODCASTS DOT com for more INFO. Welcome back to the GMC football podcast. Last segment talked about Cam Newton and how he is basically running away what the starting job in New England I'm just not surprised Cam Newton former number one overall pick he's six. He's like two fifty to sixty. He can run he can absolutely selling the football not the most accurate but he makes them for another ways man you gotTa let him play his game. You look at the NFL nowadays although Camden has taken a lot of hits and maybe he's taken more hits than he should have in his career you look at how the scams going with guys like Josh Allen like Lamar Jackson minhsiu. Wilson mahomes everything. The game is more towards these passers who can run in well, all of them I would say are better passers, Whoa not, Josh Allen, I will I will not give it to Josh. Josh Allen is not Cam, Newton he's not even Cam Newton Nunez, a runner out of these Cam Newton as thrower even though they're completion percentage are actually kinda similar I still would I would still take Cam Newton over Josh Allen I've Seen Cam, Newton, his peak I. I'm not sure what Josh Allen at his peak looks like yet. This could his. Peak. This could just be who he is I don't know of, but nonetheless, I just think that Cam. Newton was grossly was grossly disrespected grossly discarded by the Panthers and I'm happy that he is finding his stride with New England don't know whether it's going to be for them in the in the wind category I don't know how Cam Newton stats are gonNA. Look I have always said I think the most important thing is just that he's a good soldier with the team that he looks good they can at least maybe be close to five hundred. Don't look incompetent. Don't look like he can't play a hopefully. They do put him in a good system that is really tailored to what he does well so that he can actually show everyone that he is still, Cam Newton. Maybe, not, Cam Newton of Twenty fifteen but that he is still a viable starter in this league. anyways. So, in this coming NFL draft as I kind of mentioned at the very beginning of the show, there are going to be three quarterbacks in the draft to our view that as being starters as they could be starters in this league in its trevor. Lawrence Justin fields and trae Lance trae lance. Obviously, he is going to get one game to basically showcases talents and that's it. I. Don't know if it's GONNA work. Out if it's GonNa go good for him. I would lean with it's probably GONNA be pretty average game just because of how wonky everything is but I could be wrong maybe he lights it up and maybe he looks incredible and maybe his draft stock goes even higher I really have no idea of some people they have. They've looked a team like the like the Patriots and there's those who think that the Patriots they see with all their draft picks they have what just because they've just been collecting collecting collecting whether it's compensatory picks or whatever is as. Make a random trade of a player who that maybe they never even really plan on whatever it is. They always seem to have so many draft picks and there's those who believe that they could package a bunch of those and they could put them into maybe say the second overall pick maybe the third overall pick maybe they can package enough together to get higher in the first round into the top ten, and because there are so many teams in the league that have their quarterback maybe they could get one of these three one of these three possible franchise cornerbacks. Later in the first round, whatever it might be maybe if they follow the ten I'm pretty sure in the matter what Joe Trevor Lawrence, we'll probably go number one I feel like field will probably go number two, maybe number three I don't know what Trae landfalls, but there's those who believe that the Patriots could be building up to try and draft one of these quarterbacks because they don't really it doesn't seem like they believe in Jared Stidham, it will not be Bryant Hoyer will be Cam. Newton, for the long run. People don't really believe. So they believe this is kind of that one year rental you play with Cam Newton just have some fund, the season and then you move on from him in and Cam, Newton goes to some other team or hopefully he can get a big payday again. There's a team that I really do believe if they would just embrace their starter if they would just embrace the guy that they have. They really have something and I don't think they're going to do it the Jacksonville Jaguars. They drafted Gardner Menchu last year in the later Rounds Garden Minzhu in college was a really good quarterback. Did some moving around, but it was a really really good quarterback. And they ended up taking him he. Ended up starting a lot earlier than I think the Jackson ever anticipated because Nick foles got hurt game number one mention came in he kinda struggled he didn't look very prepared but then the next game in every other game he started after that the dude looked really good. Everyone's talking about how impressive cuyler Murray is, and you know he's he was the offensive rookie of the year and Oh God you'll. He was clearly best court. Pro Football, focus had gardner minhsiu ranked as their top rookie quarterback. Last year, he had the highest grade among every rookie quarterback. Not only that. I'm going to throw some stats out to you about some areas that Gardner Minhsiu ranked and I think some of these will probably blow your mind. The. Highest grade the quarterbacks in the red zone last season Ryan Tannehill was number one drew brees was number two Lamar Jackson was number three. Gardner men shoe was number four. The highest grade quarterbacks on twenty yard throws down the Field Russell Wilson was number one. The Shawn Watson was number two. Gardiner Menchu was number three with a ninety four point seven rating on throws twenty yards down the field. The league leaders in scramble yards Lamar Jackson was number one behind him was Gardner Men's shoe at number two with three, hundred, fifty yards. You look at passer rating. On throws twenty yards down the field twenty plus yards down the field. Garments, you led the league with a quarterback rating with a passer rating of one, hundred and twenty nine. Behind him was homes with a rating of one, twenty, two point nine. So not miles ahead of Mahomes, but he was the number, one quarterback and. A couple of days ago Gunderman shoe. He was asked on what if the jags were to draft a quarterback in two thousand, twenty one and he said if you do draft a quarterback, you'll probably regret it in a year. Garner you. If there's anything that he hasn't been, he hasn't been afraid to to talk about I guess to be confident to show his confidence he has he has not shied away from it. And that has some people. The wrong way I think he made a quote regarding offensive rookie of the year. And, and who the best rookie quarterback was in the season and he said it was himself and I think he sets among other things that Kinda rub some people the wrong way he came out and he apologized for it and really I think I think there's only a couple reasons as why it is that they will not be sold on at least having Garner Minzhu as their starter yo at least wasn't play like his rookie deal give them this season giving him another season actually giving him a couple of seasons to try and be the starter I. Think there's only a few reasons why they wouldn't number one. It is because he's late round pick and teams are not usually bought into their later. Round picks even as good as men. She performed last year I think they would look at it as he overachieved I think they would look at it as well. Well, I mean, you'll hear the nice season for for a six round pick. You know he had a nice season they wouldn't they're not invested in him. The way that the browns were invested in Baker or the way that the jets are invested in Sam Darnold or the bills are invested in Josh? Allen. And I know I bring up bring up hell either the the cardinals they went to the rose and after one season he was a first round pick in that shocked me that shocked the whole nfl world that they moved off of Josh Rosen that quickly because it just doesn't happen. I think that that comes into play. I think there's a fact that Garmon shoe has kind of been related to. He's like Baker Mayfield he looks he looks a lot like Baker they're kind of the same size, the same stature. Game even though this past season Garner men's shoes rookie year was far better than Baker Mayfield's sophomore year. But they bring up the open personality. Kind of seems to be the same both of them. They clearly have a confidence about themselves. They're not afraid to talk about it and not afraid to show it, and that always does rub some people the wrong way and the other thing is simply a kind of the Arizona cardinals effect I think Jacksonville. Could end up falling into this position where after the season, they're going to fire their head coach. I think after the season they could fire Doug marrone I think Doug Marrone, he has show in. Jacksonville though. I have a hard time blaming it on Doug marrone because I think Jacksonville itself is a bad organization. They've had multiple head coaches. It just never seems to work and even with Doug Marrone, it's like it worked for a season but as they bring up a fish, Ross from the head down, there's only so many times it's the head coaches fall before it's actually just the organization's fault. You could e the browns. How many times are they going to fire a head coach? Before you realize dude, it is just the franchise who's in charge the owner it's who's running the football operations. There are just not good. I think that that could come into play with Jacksonville but I think after the season once they once a once again missed the playoffs and they fish below five hundred, I? Think they would fire Doug marrone and I think they. Would have a top ten pick and I think that they will look around at their position. Look around at some of the possible head coaches the higher and I think they could go and target ahead coach I. Don't know who I think. They could target ahead coach ask them who is a quarterback you like who's the quarterback you like right now whether being the NFL or just in the draft who like and if they said a why like trae Lance. Like Justin Field and then maybe Jacksonville somehow is able to mortgage some picks maybe mortgage a player will bring up a player in a second. I don't understand why they haven't moved yet but I think they can move up higher in the first round and they could guarantee themselves to take either Trevor Lawrence or Justin fields depending on who they like more I think they would do it if the situation. If the situation came about I. Don't know if they can pass it up. They might do mention the way that the cardinals did Rosen it is even more shocking with Rosen because he was a first round pick shoe. In this case, he was a six rounder. A player that I do not understand why the Jacksonville Jaguars have not moved off of is Yana can Gakugei. Have they not traded on Gaga he doesn't WANNA be there. He has been as vocal about getting out of Jacksonville as Jalen Ramsey was what they did. They traded Ramsey to the rams I think in exchange for like two firsts in like second or third I mean it was a ridiculous hall they they got a law for Jalen Ramsey but again, I, am one of. Those people who does believe I would rather have the sher- fired player. Then take my chances on a draft pick that is just me though in this particular situation, Jacksonville New Ramsey was not going to resign. He knew he wasn't going to play. They're under like a franchise tag they needed to get rid of them. They are the hall in the case of Yannick and Gakugei. He is not going to play for this team. He hasn't signed his franchise tag. He has been vocals since the end of the season that he wanted out, he has exchanged multiple tweets with one of the part owners of the team a team. Tony Kahn. who he was very vocally told co Tony. Kahn. If I remember some of the conversation, he told them at one point you know stop hiding Tony Kahn responded and said he's not hiding as soon as a team gives us a good offer. We would be more than happy to trade you but until then. We're. GonNa go ahead and keep you in the Iana Gakugei. He is another one. These players who I think really exceeded expectations. He was a third round pick. His rookie year, he looked like a third round rookie but in his second year that Saxon Ville year, the team exploded and the defense was cook on cylinders Yonathan Gakugei was I think in the top ten when it came the sacks, he was top ten when it came to his pro football focus grave rusher one of the best pass rushing grades in the league. I. Mean He looked outstanding. He's not much of a run defender run defending is not his specialty he is a guy you tell to go and rush the passer that. Is what he is. Now sense this accident bill year though he has not had the same kind of production it just hasn't been there his production since then has really tapered off his grades have not been nearly what they were but this past two seasons he has had grades of seventy two. So basically had his rookie year you go ahead and throw out that year his second year he had like an eighty seven. I think was his overall grade and then you go to the next to seize the at seventy, two, seventy two. So I. Think. Kind of what we have seen from Yongin Gabor through the first four years of his career is that he is a. He is a his high end is he's one of the best pass rushers in the league. His low end is he is a he's a good, not great pass rusher. And I think that's kind of what has played into him not being traded. My thing is that Jacksonville clearly they liked him enough they have. They have a an affinity with him enough to give him the franchise tag me they didn't want to go away. They saw what he did that year. Obviously, they see more film of Him in practice and everything than I do so they really like. Him enough to they're like. Man We, want a good trade for you like we're just going to give you another team we want. We want to actually get something good for you and I saw some earlier reports. This is probably going on a month ago I saw reports that there was a team that offer Jacksonville, a couple I route two first round picks in starting a player who was a pro bowler, and they still didn't accept the deal and then I saw there was a who was I think it was their GM. The GM while on Sirius Sirius Xm NFL radio and he talked about the Yang Aqua rumor he said the unsubstantiated report Commie off guard too. If he's being traded I, wish someone would let me know obviously we've had discussions with teams but that report was pretty That was that report came out on August twentieth. I do not get why they haven't traded them. This is like this reminds me of the levy on bell situation in the steelers organization is far far better than Jacksonville's way better ran there hasn't been the coaching influx there hasn't been the talent and. I want not necess- talent influx but like they've kept the culture, the same they're able to re sign their good players players want to play in. Pittsburgh no one really wants to go and play in Jacksonville no one really wants to go there. No one really wants to get drafted there. But I look at this situation with Yang Gakugei and I'm dislike guys. You're tying a the money to him if he doesn't sign the franchise tag especially, right if he doesn't sign the franchise tag and they keep it on him, that's money that just doesn't go anywhere. They just can't use it until they take it off of him and. What the I don't remember what the cap hit is for for the defensive end franchise tag but I think it's over fifteen million. So you'RE GONNA tie. Over fifteen million dollars into a player who isn't going to play for you for what? It really is like for what? What is the point? So that he doesn't go play somewhere. What does it to send a message look at how that worked out for Pittsburgh That season they missed the playoffs. Now. Maybe on bell is with the jets and I mean, he's doing his own thing I'll know he's not looking great but the jets aren't Great Maya question just what do you get keeping young and Gakugei at some point in time when she rather get something for the player? Rather. than. Try and send a message in just them go for nothing. Wouldn't you rather do that? Wouldn't you rather get a third round pick if you can wouldn't you rather get a second round pick if you can you drafted him with a with a third. If, you got a second you basically upgraded. And again, Yongin Gawping I think I think he's a good player while his last seasons haven't been what he was his second year I still think he's a good player. I think he just needs to be the better situation. He needs more motivation around him because I think he he knows in Ramsey new and a lot of the players on Jacksonville knew they were going to go anywhere especially when Blake Bortles was their quarterback they knew that they had a ceiling they knew they weren't going to go anywhere. So where's the motivation? I, I don't I really don't get what Jackson was doing I. Think this coming off season they could be making serious mistakes. I think it is a I think it would be a mistake to give up on Menchu this early when by all accounts, he was the best rookie quarterback last year and I think it'd be a mistake if they didn't do anything within Gok way this season and then all of a sudden, you just lose him next year for nothing. For. What to just prove a point? Or to send a message to the team that you're not gonNA YOU'RE NOT GONNA demand your way out of here I. Just it's stupid. It's so stupid Jacksonville is such a poorly run franchise. And there are, there's a reason why there was talk about this team possibly being moved to London. The fact that this team was once again gonNA play outside of America because they're arena, it's just their stadium it's just not fill. They're not filling seats they're not putting butts in seats. The fans have nothing to root for. What, what are they rooting for for a few years? It was Blake Bortles it was Blaine Gabbert. Nelson that was nick foles and it seemed like maybe at work and then he got hurt and it was meant you mania in an actually looked really fun and then there's reports Jacksonville could really look at drafting a quarterback this next year and I just don't. I just don't get it. I mean I. Guess I guess if you get if Jacksonville has a chance to draft Trevor Lawrence if they somehow manage to get like the number one overall pick or something then I mean okay. Yes. Sure. I get that this. This guy is supposed to be like Andrew Lucky is supposed to be a franchise savior. He's that good one the CIA, run the a title as a true freshman I get it. But. I just think giving up on. Too quickly like that doesn't bode well for the franchise and I don't think it makes other players want to go and play there. Because they they're going to look at that and go. Okay we'll even if I perform well, I could get I could get traded. I. Something can happen to me and then there's politics that play into it like even if mentioned was beating Trevor Lawrence, in practice and everything, right? Even if he was performing better there's politics, they would somehow figure out a way to make trevor. Lawrence the starter they'd figure out a way to make Justin, feels the starter or whatever it was. I just don't think it's fair but I think it says a lot about this damn franchise. 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GMC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. GMC football podcast last segment talked about the Jaguars Yana can. Garner Menchu. Basically I think that this franchise is GonNa make us some big mistakes or could potentially make some big mistakes in the coming next few years really I mean just look this is a franchise in the last ten years they've in the last ten plus years they have won the Division One time and it was the Saxon Ville year and other than that they are. Perpetually one of the worst teams in the AFC they're perpetually one of the worst teams in the AFC south. I don't think they're gonNA finish last in the division this at least well, I mean they could. They could probably finish last but I just don't think they're going to be like a two win team like some people predict I, honestly do think they have enough offense of talent. And I liked Garner men I like charge I like Westbrook I their offense of line I like I think they have talent there to win a couple of games. They could still end up finishing last AFC south though because I want to see the cultural rivers I do like and I like the defense I like Tennessee with Tannahill, the Houston Texans, it's going to be really really competitive. Division at the end of the day I do think that this franchise has made a lot of mistakes I think we're making one within Gok way they should trade him in with Menchu I. Honestly think they should be giving him a real chance to be their starter. I think he could really build off of his rookie year but by all accounts, it seems like they are actually towards. The quarterbacks in this coming NFL draft. So I guess it is one of this but anyways. So Earl, Thomas I talked about him I last podcast, he had been released from the Ravens and at that point in time it came down to all right now who's going to be his next home for those of you who do not know what happened with Earl Thomas Basically, he got involved in a fight with Safety Chuck Clark and what ended up happening is earl blitzed. During their practice during a scrimmages I guess and it left a Guy Kinda open coverage breakdown it was a touchdown. Chuck Clark. His teammate who is on the field at the time he was really really upset. He took off his helmet and earl came over to him essentially said it's cool and chuck. Clark, in exact quote from him as reported by NFL networks over he said, no, it's not you need to go the meetings in walk through and the maybe he'll get it. And that is what prompted the fight between the two and ultimately Earl Thomas ended up punching Chuck Clark. He was sent home, and promptly he was released by the Ravens shortly after a and by accounts in some of the reports he was voted off by the team captains on the team. The team captains didn't want him on the team anymore they were fed up with her oh, and a lot of people be thinking themselves. Well, that seems really unlike earl right when Seattle he was known as as one of the top safeties in the league. That staple member of the Legion of boom. He was a leader on the field. He was a well respected around the league and I'm not saying he's still not well respected, but it was the image the image of him right now is not good. Okay when he was released by the Ravens, three teams were named as top Bible candidates to sign him was the Texans. The Texan said, no interest. One was the niners Kyle Shanahan said they have no interest he literally she's just shut down the room he said we are not interested. Jerry Jones and the cowboys they said that they should be the front runner I even said I thought the cowboys could take a flyer maybe should take a flyer on their will Thomas I thought they would because Jerry Jones really really likes big names but Ian Rapoport reported that the cowboys are not going to sign him that they do not plan to Jerry Jones he of course, he kind of came out and he disputed it and he said you know the buck stops with me and I'm the only person who's word really matters but it was a while he's kind of a left the door open the sign him. They are not going to sign there will Thomas. So this guy who at one point in time was regarded as the best safety in the League who? Who at one point in time was one of the most feared the fenders in the League he was third number on that Seattle defense. He has now been relegated to what team wants to take this guy who seems to be at this point in time a locker room deterrent. Who wants to take a chance on this guy? NFL networks. Mike Silver. He was doing an interview on Oh, I? Think he was just talking on the NFL network and he was talking about earls time with the Ravens in how his time with the Ravens was rocky from the start. He had been late to some meetings at one time. He was late to a meeting because he said, he needed to get his car washed look in any walk of life that is not an that's not an excuse to skip a meeting because your your car needs, you can get your car washed at literally any time today. In if it's not an actual car wash, you can do it yourself. You can do it anytime of the day there is no way in Hell your car is that dirty. To where it needs to be washed that moment and you're going to skip meeting that doesn't make any sense of the Ravens, find him multiple times and to the point where they warned him and said Hey. If this continues, we are GonNa, find this under conduct detrimental to the team, and of course, what conduct detrimental to the team means is can go ahead in void you're guaranteed money and. They can essentially cut you for nothing and they can go after you're signing bonus. They can actually attempt to get some of the money back from you. Of course, he had the incident with Brandon Williams when the better defensive of lion players on the ravens big dude or how the problem with him. It was just not a good It was not a good situation from the get-go. which is really interesting because you look at the Ravens think about their culture that was instituted there by Ray Lewis Buying ed read by Shannon Sharpe by the most the good players have had terrell suggs, all the great players they've had there and you look at their head coach John. Harbaugh John Harbaugh is one of the most player-friendly coaches in the league. One of the most friendly player-friendly coaches he loves his players. He's never really seemed to be a screamer he has never. I have never seen really bag report about John Harbaugh in his relationship with his players another team that has a strong culture. That has a player friendly coach. The absolute. That has never really been a report about having bad relationships with any of the guys is the seahawks Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll has he has made his living off of being a player friendly coaches. He's all about getting out there and practice with the guys putting on. You saw with decay metcalf taken shirt off flexing with decay I mean he is a lawyer friendly coach through in through the Seattle Coulter that was instituted there in part by Earl Thomas. With the Legion of boom, it's the twelfth man Everything Russell Wilson. Shirley with Shirley of course, some of the defensive players I guess you could say mutinied against the team and oral I think was kind of one of the names that got brought up along with Michael Bennett along with a Richard. Sherman. Some the guys that kind of started to speak out thought that Pete Carroll Liked Russell Wilson a bit too much in protected them whatever Blah Blah Blah Blah nonetheless, it was a player friendly organization and earl. He. This kind of crazy about it is that url he goes the Seattle drafted him in the first round over other safeties were regarded higher than him. They drafted him in the first round at the time they extended him. They made them the highest paid safety in the League and Earl on his way out because he didn't like the fact that they wouldn't extend him. He flipped off Pete Carroll and the Seattle seahawks on his way out. I mean the last image image of of Earl Thomas in Seattle him giving them the finger. And I think last year. The Ravens didn't facing Seattle the Ravens in the beating Seattle and we'll talk about how sweet victory it was. Do I mean Seattle they never did anything wrong to him but even then right he's upset he didn't get the contract extension he was how how Seattle handled it nonetheless. Pete Carroll and John Harbaugh two of the most player-friendly coaches in the League got sick and tired of Roll Thomas. They did I can't. I can't ignore that that is not something I can just overlook they got sick and tired of him, and it only took harbaugh a year before he and the team said we need to get rid of him. Now. Earl Thomas is play. Last season was not as good as it as as it had been in Seattle. The defense was more difficult for him did something because in Seattle one thing he played the high safety and he did it at an elite level but in Baltimore, they did a bit more. There are a bit more exotic they bullets more. They did some different things with him. His coverage was great. Everything else was ended up going down a bit. He still had a pretty solid season had a great in the seventies it was. Okay. Now, the question is what team is GonNa take a chance on him. And I think he's honestly entering Antonio Brown not not not to the extent of Antonio Brown, but he's entering Antonio Brown territory. That's kind of how I would describe it, and here's what I mean by that. Antonio Brown towards the end of his time in. Pittsburgh skipping meetings he was kind of marching to the beat of his own drum. He was arguing with people. He was getting disagreements with players even in his earlier tenure with Pittsburgh guys like Ryan Clark who is a great analysts on the ESPN talks about how he and Antonio. Brown had issues Antonio Brown how the giant ego when he got paid had a giant. Ego. All don't touch me. I'm the franchise. He was a very big Miyagi. Will you look at Thomas? What does he been doing recently skipping meetings for stupid reasons getting in arguments with players in practice, which of course, it happens but the moment turns physical there's a problem. See it now, Thomas has not done everything and now, of course. You have a the off the field issue with his brother and his wife where she held him at gunpoint. That's a whole thing and you know sometimes things happen on the outside of work and it's just it's life, right? It's just a part of life. You can't always bring what happens off the field to the onfield stuff, but it was a distraction because it was insane. Antonio Brown have a lot of stuff going on off the field. A lot of the stuff was a distraction. It was pretty crazy. And so you look at that team. The niners, the niners they could definitely use I have a who was there is Jimmy Ward. WHO's their safety is pretty good but they could definitely use another book in safety if. Thomas. They be great and I'm sure they could get him at a discount they said no. The Texans they need all the help they can get right now and their secondary. They got some interesting pieces there but they need a lot of help they said, no in the cowboys Jerry Jones, when has he ever shied away from signing a troubled player? When has he ever shied away from signing a big name player? They haven't signed Thomas in from account. Even though Jerry Jones did push back on them Ian rapoport pushed rightback said he trusts his sources he trusts what he's heard. He said they're not gonNA sign all Thomas. Now, one team that has been brought into the mix, the Browns, the browns in the blues ing one of their rookie safeties who was projected to be their starter and grant del pit who's a safety at? Lsu was really really good safety. There was seen as a really good pick by them. In the second round he was shaping the be a starter he's out for the year maybe they could sign Thomas people don't they could maybe look to grab Thomas. I don't know if they do it. I really don't I don't know if they WANNA to take that chance the browns of all teams right now they're trying to establish a culture. They're trying to finally get some kind of culture there and they're hoping it can start with Stefanski in crew. Do. They really want to bring in Earl Thomas into that defense I don't know. I just don't. and. I look kind of across the League of other names get brought up You know some people said the Patriots maybe the Patriots could bring him in they. They lost a bunch of pieces on defense. Obviously, they lost the rutgers safety alongside a mccourty who was it Patrick? Chung, they lost Patrick Chung. Maybe they could bring an old Thomas. Bill belichick loves SMART NFL players he tells them to do what they do. Best. If you Thomas just play the high safety and everything just do his job not really do many exotic things or whatever. I'm sure Oh Thomas would probably flourish but does bill belichick want a guy who's punching people in practices I don't know. The over theme is I don't know what's going to happen with Roy. Thomas I think he's still a talented player but I do think there are some teams that look at his last year. They look at the fact he did struggle a bit. He is getting older the ravens cut him after one year look at what happened the Josh Rosen? He had his one year in Arizona, his rookie year. He gets traded to. MIAMI. No no team even talks about Josh Rosen no one talks about him. No one brings up a there's there's no team that's even thought hey, what if we trade for this guy was once upon a time a first round pick remember draft class they were saying he was the most pro ready quarterback. He was more pro ready than Sam Darnold. He was more pro ready than Baker Josh Allen Lamar Jackson he was better a more ready than all those guys. And? What exactly is going on with Josh? Rosen. He's just in the ether. He's not even talked about teams have Kinda. They look at him and they're light. There's a reason the cardinals moved off of him. In that's kind of that's the narrative your pegged with I think with Earl Thomas. He has that kind of narrative pegged on them. It's hey, the ravens moved off after one year. That's got to say something his talent to them wasn't enough but again, it goes to show when I brought this up my last podcast, it goes to show how important a culture is. It goes to show how important it is to have a culture that strong that his team I where everyone is is unified. And even though Thomas, might be a good player. You do have to weigh will heed disrupt the locker room and that's why you know It seems like if there's going to be any team that signs him, it's going to be one of those teams that just feels like they're a piece away and they can make it work or it's going to be a bad team who doesn't really have a chance maybe they have a chance to make the playoffs maybe they don't maybe it's the team that doesn't really have a culture maybe two team who just really really starving to big name on their defense or on their team in general. I honestly don't know. I really don't know where where he's going to go from here. I don't know where to go from your if. If you will told me. A year ago that URL was going to go from best safety in the League or at least one of the top three safeties in the league. To high priced free agent to a year later. Being. Labeled as a locker room problem. Who wants to even take a chance on him in a team like even the cowboys? Haven't signed him yet. I would have said you're insane I would have thought what happened to him did he break his leg again in Baltimore like what happened to him? I would've never thought this would have happened the earl. Never. Maybe. It's my fault. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention to the seahawks maybe I wasn't paying. Close, enough attention to his actions in Seattle some of the reporting at Seattle maybe. I. Just wasn't but I do reflect on it and I do have to admit it's Kinda scary that two of the most player-friendly coaches in the league both got tired earl one of them got tired of him after one year. That doesn't bode well in you know the Ravens they're gonNA file a grievance they're gonna get the money back. I don't think earl is GONNA be able to keep it I. Know there are some people out there who say they should let him keep it says money he deserves it no I'm not one of those people who think deserve that now. If you, if you violate a rule in your contract in says that we can take some of your money back and you still violated Do you lose the money? I mean what you think you can just punch teammate and keep all of your money. That's ridiculous. You think that you can apparently get fine the multiple times by your team. And skipped meetings because you need the Washer car and you think it's okay. No. I don't know if it's a case of Earl Thomas got a bit too full of himself. Maybe he got a bit too when was on high ps earl Tom Maybe. He's a bit to win those own name. Kinda like Antonio Brown I really don't know but what a decline for earl to go from best safety in the League Legion boom to now. Some of the top teams in the League don't even WanNa touch him some of these teams who even desperately need secondary help like the cowboys like Texans don't WanNa touch him I. think that's crazy. anyways coming up next topic of the day. We're GONNA talk some. Roger Goodell. We're GonNa Talk Some Colin Kaepernick I'm going to try and keep my cool during this but there's a lot I want to say and we're going to get into all of that coming up next. Thank you for listening. Check out this show built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting we got the fights cover. The golden state media concepts, women's May podcast the latest news of upcoming likes discussions of previous matches. Join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know to listen to the golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast. Welcome to the G. S. MC football podcast last segment talked about earl. Thomas I talk about the fall from grace for Earl Thomas. My goodness dude was the best safety in the league just a year and a half ago or so and now he can't even get on a team be in. I'm not saying he won't get on a team, right? I don't WANNA I don't WanNa put that message I think he's GonNa get on a team. I just don't think it's going to be one of these top teams in the League, and if it is one of the top teams in the league, it's going to be because they're going to give him a very incentive heavy deal. And they're going to tell him you're on the thinnest of leashes. If you even if you even even sneezing the wrong direction, you're gone. That's how I feel like this is all going to go. anyways. So I don't WanNA spend too much time on that. All right. I'm going to try and keep cool during this. I don't want to get to emotional because this is gonna I get this kind of stuff. I get very heated So there is a man. Twenty nine year old man named Jacob. Blake. He was shot seven times in the back by police officers. He was unarmed. He was at his car with his kids in the all three of his kids I believe and at the moment he is paralyzed from the waist down and you have protests all over the place again. For Black lives matter calling for the arrest of these police calling for justice for Jacob. Blake I'm so glad he's alive I. Hope he sues the crap out of the Kenosha police. I hope that he gets justice I hope that the cop net shot him all those times goes to jail. I just it is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff Colin Kaepernick was talking about. In Two thousand sixteen when he started protesting, this is the kind of stuff he was talking about. And there was that segment of the population that understood what he was talking about in they agreed but there was also a large portion of the people that couldn't understand what he was talking about. They were too focused on the fact that he was kneeling during the anthem to hear what he had to say in one of those people was Roger Goodell. Now Roger Goodell recently did an interview with a former NFL player. He's now on F s one analyst Emmanuel Acho. And Emmanuel Oncho was very good man in look Roger Goodell himself. He's a very good man to I'm not trying to say he's not but Emmanuel show good man a person of color a black man in America and he has a show on Youtube called uncomfortable conversations with black man and he brings people on and they have a bunch of conversations. These conversations with other celebrities He'll. He'll bring anyone on in. Hebron Roger. Goodell on and they wanted to have a nice talk about the protest during the national anthem and he wanted to pick his brain. I was really excited to see this when when I heard that, this was going to be coming out and I watched it. And I you know for an uncomfortable conversation it looked like one of the most comfortable conversations I've ever seen in my life. It didn't seem like there was a lot of probing I was waiting for the uncomfortable part and I just never saw now here, I wanna I want to bring up a few points from this interview. Because, this is kind of interesting to me. So Roger Goodell during the interview he loses he says he's comfortable talking about race. Okay. So you're comfortable talking about race. That's good. It goes on the his father protested the Vietnam War. Any peace he protested peacefully. So he was familiar with peaceful protests. He was familiar with fighting for what you believe in. Me With fighting for change. This is all stuff he familiar with. Emmanuel Ansciaux goes on to ask him He talks about the video that that Roger Goodell posted where he talked about black lives matter he he denounced police brutality. He's poor black lives matter. He talked about the protesting the anthem and how it wasn't about the flag it was about these issues all of this stuff it was a great great video. But it was like four years too late. At least in my mind, it was like four years too late now better sooner than never but I still think it was four years too late but the asked him in this video you didn't necessarily apologized to capture nick like any estimate how exactly if you could in your own words, how would you apologize to capture nick and he says, he wished he had quote listened earlier to Colin Kaepernick. That's very interesting. This man who claims he so comfortable talking about race. When captain started protesting? He kind of did the opposite. He didn't listen and instead sided with the president of the United States who called them so Instead. They should get out of the country if they have a problem with it was calling for a boycott of the NFL ZANU not. GonNa Launch Games anymore if disrespecting the anthem and cadel tried to swayed players from kneeling he ended up I believe he made a deal with with Malcolm Jenkins donating money to black causes. And black organizations or whatever in exchange that you know they would hopefully stop kneeling and Malcolm Jenkins. If I'm remembering correctly when he came out and talked about that, he said that he just he values time to make you know take a next step forward but there were though I think mainly, Eric Reading captain that other guys who were saying that is not your call in their agreed of course, has documented problem with Malcolm Jenkins although Jenkins will say that you know they're fighting the same 'cause it's just doing it a bit differently whatever. Jim Trotter who's a reporter who gets paid by Roger Goodell he saw. This interview the same way I did basically, he said it looked like one of the most comfortable. Uncomfortable conversations he's ever seen in his life. He thought Emmanuel. Oncho. Let him off easy. He thought he didn't probem enough. He thought he didn't ask the right questions. It seemed more like just a nice back and forth conversation rather than actually asking the uncomfortable conversations rather than actually probing. Because, he was lying me by it. It Roger Goodell. One moment says he has no problem talking about race. He has no problem with it and then the next second he goes into this. Soliloquy if you will and talk about how you know he wishes he listened to Colin Kaepernick sooner I would have immediately been like, well, why didn't you listen to him immediately now goodell did say that they tried to bring Kapernick in and they tried to to have a sit down conversation with him but the cavern just wasn't interested. Kapernick has I, think made it pretty clear with people. Especially, some of these bigger businesses who didn't take his side in the beginning, he's not gonNa take your side. As soon as you basically let him know your original feelings, which is at you. You're either with them or against him. If you let him know you're against him off the bat it seems like he's not going to be very apt to listen to you again. Now while Cameron that has been very clear. That he does want to play again right there was the whole there was that whole. Quote tryout that that the NFL was gonNA host for Capper Nick, and it just kind of turned into a sham because they wanted him to sign some waiver thing say event essentially where he would waive his right to ever sue the NFL you don't WanNa do that the I think there was a whole other purpose to this quote trial thing I just wish the interview probe Roger Goodell enough. The Milwaukee Bucks they didn't play their game. The Milwaukee Bucks they boycotted their. lebrons James. Go. On the twitter saying this need changes all in the wake of Jacob's shutting again. So happy he's alive I am. So this meant he has a family he has three kids. I mean they they neither that I'm so go and I really hope paralysis is not permanent. I think it's a damn shame if it. If it is permanent I. that's a tragedy but I i. just I'm glad he has his life. He can still live his life. He has his kids and I think that is something be very, very thankful for, but it's something that should have never happened. What happened to him should have never happened in addition happen to anybody. I say all this to to say this. So obviously, the NFL has lifted the restriction and teams can have players come in. Now teams can have players command they can check out guys who may have a little bit of an injury history. They can check out guys were just kind of gauge where they are guys like Kevin. White is getting tryouts Kevin White was a first round pick of the bears he could never stay healthy he's getting tryouts other guys are getting trials as well. Obviously they ever Griffin Everson Griffen he was brought in he was a free agent for the longest time. He was brought in I. Think some point in time clowney will get broaden. It's really just a matter of with him. It's a matter of his price tag because he's a guy who gets a lot of pressures he is also heard doesn't get really big sack numbers. He's looking was originally looking for like a twenty million dollar a year price tag it just wasn't going to happen does happen for players like that the production while it doesn't show up on the stats sheet in the stats sheet at times is kind of what dictates your pay To say this though I don't think it's going to get on a team. I. Think everyone is done in the NFL I really do. I remember hearing all the coachspeak Pete Carroll coming out saying we we wish we had signed capper nick originally it just it just wasn't a fit in one moment. He saying we'll capture key was good enough to be a starter. So you know we didn't want to. We don't want to bring him in. Doesn't make any sense doesn't make any sense an MP carol most recently said, he doesn't remember why didn't design them but he wished that they did that's a lie is a flat out lie. And you you say you're happy with your backup situation situation with Gino Smith on me. Put it this way if Russell Wilson gets hurt, the season is over. If Russell, Wilson had season ending injury. The season is over Gino Smith will not save the team and I'm not saying Colin Kaepernick would save the team either but I trust call and Cairns a hell of a lot more than I trust Gino Smith. I look at the team like the chargers, the charges, the head coach came out said they they they have capper nick on their workout list because he would kind of fit the system that they're going to run that he is on the workout list of, but they do like their quarterback situation. You know what you can bring players in now haven't heard anything about. Cavern Nick there were all these reports. There were all these teams that were apparently really looking at capture nick. They were really looking at bringing them in in the wake of people no longer having a problem or at least let me not say that let me say the majority of people now no longer having a problem with protesting during the anthem they now understand it. With the wake of George, Floyd in fact that Colin Kaepernick was right. You would be. You would look really really good as a as a team if you did sign him, no one signed them. I haven't seen a single report about a team thinking about working him out I haven't seen anything. And I think at this point I am just I'm a I'm. I'm Kinda I've Kinda given up. I've kind of given up on capper nick getting on a team. I think it's a shame. I think. It is a sports tragedy. That his career got cut. So short I mean he is this generation's Muhammad Ali. Mohammed Ali obviously, he wouldn't go. He wouldn't. He wouldn't go to war. And so the needed jail time and lost his career for. And there was all the top with ever be able to make it back with the ever be able to box again, and of course he did. In Muhammad Ali's who is Muhammad frigging Ali. Colin Kaepernick. kneeled. you know he did get the finished that season and everything but he was kneeling and then he's released by the niners and he never ever even got a practice. He never even got to practice with the team in every single team figured out some excuse to not give him a practice right It was GONNA be the Baltimore Ravens, the Ravens we're GONNA we're gonNA, bring him in, and then they oh well, his girlfriend called us a call this out and so we're not going to bring him in anymore in the seahawks they bring a man they actually bring him in the Seattle and they just sat there and talked to him. In an even see what he can do on the field and they left that interview going. Well, he's a starter. You know he's a starter we don't want. We don't want to bring him in. You know for if he's a starter, he can start in this league. What's What does that even mean? Every team figured out some reason to not signed him. The broncos, the broncos. The broncos at one point in time they wanted to try and trade for captaining. They were willing to engage the niners in trade for capper. Nick. They just wanted him to take a little bit less money cap panicky the WanNa take less money in happened that he liked this deal he wanted to keep his deal Denver they didn't end up going through the trade. But as students the niners released capper Nick. Kapernick. Made it very clear. He was not looking for some top of the line deal. He just wanted to get back on team Denver never even sniffed him. And so I mean, I look at this and I look at this conversation with Goodell this. uncomfortable. Conversation with Goodell. and. I'm just not satisfied with what he said. At this point? What is he saying? All sorry cabinet wish to listen to you earlier. But Eh, we didn't you killed your career. This stuff is still happening in America. Maybe if we had just listened to you before instead of making you. Into kind of public enemy number one almost. People's is. Maybe. We just embraced you. Maybe people would have listened to your message more I I mean what? On Earth? It's Kinda. It's a shame and I know that this is a bit of a different topic to end the show on this isn't exactly a very happy. No But right now it's not twenty twenty hasn't been happy. The change, the protests that have been happening the the awareness that's been being brought to things. Great. But my God is it so overdo. It is so overdue. In guys like Capela, Nick, they tried to bring this to everyone's attention four years ago. And only now this year. Are People listening it took it took within the I mean because what was it happen in like a week and a half are Berry's death his murder George. Floyd's murder Brianna Taylor's murder they all happen. So close together people finally said, Oh, my God. This is the problem. It took that. There were all the other debts before all the other murders before the hands of police or whoever? And no one. Really. No one really put any stock into what cabinet was saying no one really put stock into police brutality. Only now has become a global thing to where you have. China, in the UK in other countries where they're doing their own black lives matter protests. Only now has it has it really Hit the fan. And I think it's too late for cabinet. All these people it was nice to think about it was nice to think about that. This was going to spark a team signing capper neck I remember I remember seeing all the headlines, all the articles, all matters like five teams really looking to get captured in the building. There's five teams really looking to bring him in. And it hasn't happened. The season is drawing near we are we are in August we are nearing the end of August. And Catherine in the season starting soon. An epic hasn't even gotten a has even got a phone call from all accounts. There'd be an article posted. If there was there would be something posted I would tempt seeing something. It'd be it'd be trending. Anything involving Kapernick at this point trends, it would be trending if a team called him. No one has. Too Little, too late. The apologies. Great. Finally accepting, there's a problem. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you for now accepting there's a problem. That's not going to get captured his career back. Just It's a, it's a sports tragedy. It is. It is an absolute shame. What happened Colin Kaepernick? He was taken out of the League in the prime of his career the game. Now today more than ever suits his style of play. I feel like capper nick if he still in this League Oh, I'm sure he'd be one of the top quarterbacks he could run with the best of him. and his throwing ability was good enough to complement his his outstanding running ability because he didn't just have wiggle he had straight-line speed and just blow past people and we're just not gonNA get see it. It is one of the it is one of the many sports tragedies out there. And I I hope history i. hope the books I. Hope Everything I. Hope they look very fondly of calling Kabir Nick. Especially Times twenty twenty. If there's anything twenty twenty has done other than bringing light to black lives matter in really showing what this is about. It has made Colin. Kaepernick. look like a damn saint. And it kind of put the NFL in a very tough position because they needed the the owner had you know the Roger Goodell had to come out and say? We were wrong. We were wrong in we should have listened. It's crazy. It's really crazy. I know that that's not the wasn't the greatest note to end the show on but I I needed to talk about it. I really did and you know the I mean the bucks cancelling they decide they stay. Saying, it's boycott. It's like a strike boycotting is when you don't watch it there, they're the employees they're going on strike the bucks rockets. All these teams. nope. Not playing. And I I can't say the wrong for doing so. Anyways, thank you for listening to the GMC football podcast to you by the DMC podcast network I would ask that you please remember to subscribe to the show in rather nice review that really helps us out also, if you can't please follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. Thank you. And have a good night. And stay safe out there. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts, football podcast part of the golden state media concepts, podcast network. 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NFL Preseason Week Three Picks & DFS Lineups (Ep. 1081)

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NFL Preseason Week Three Picks & DFS Lineups (Ep. 1081)

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Ole joe thighs matt how to be a champion every day in his place just to remind him that some of us are here. Pick in pre season week. Three fess lineups and games like a champion. I can't say the same about him by the way Shout out to sean. I'm sure he's doing great things. Down in costa rica will here lots of fun stories about animals and Fruity cocktails when we get back. But some of us like i said stick into the business. We got games to pick because we do brag about picking every game against the spread. I guess maybe it's a team effort When we're making preseason picks all right well we got some We're going to line-up we're gonna do the friday slate We got terrell coming on to break that down and then joining us. To preview of the week three preseason slate we got the machine aka sports aka moon off monje. But before we get to that. Dfs lineup you know what. Actually i know we're here to talk about nfl but we got actual college football games this weekend. 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Podcast network ether in the slack. Space sports gambling podcast dot com slash slack. Tomorrow what's what's good brother was going on. What's going on. They messed up. Today they got to giants fans to hoagies fans on the pod. Talking game we might. We might not even get to the gains. We might just talk about virginia tech in this year. Don't get me started still have not sent in my donation to the hokies. I'm still on the fence about justin flint. I i don't wanna talk about it next week. We can talk about it when they're fixing to be upset in the the fighting tar heels of north carolina. But we digress. Were here to talk about meaning lists slash meaningful to some nfl football. I will say when it comes to preseason. I don't know about you. Terrell but i do enjoy the full lineup. Slate versus the showdown slate. The showdown slate feels way more of a dart throw any preferences in terms of the style of preseason like complete dejan. Dfs you liked to play. I don't know. I kind of liked to showdown slate because i can just throw a defense incident cabinets and just multiplied on extra points. So that's kind of a little cheat code there. But i do like the chance to pick and choose certain guys at a certain games that Especially those guys that are on the chopping block to be able to go up there and throw out there and get one last one less who are in the nfl before they Go back to bagging groceries. And that's the interesting thing about this week. I think you have a convergence of styles and when it comes to preseason coaching. Some of these guys are playing their starters. Half some of these guys are not playing. Anyone that resembles starter. It seems like I it's going to be part of the reed is just figuring out which guys are going to be out there from my take before we get into the lineup. You'll see it. It does seem like the chiefs. And the panthers are two teams you circle to where they might actually rolling out the starters Maybe i don't know if you have any real quick any high level nuggets on these four games in terms of playing time. Yes so any re- came out. Said he's definitely playing a starters the first half It wasn't a wasn't for certain. Kinda like came back and double back and was like. Oh yeah we're gonna play them but you know also play by ear to it. Depends what i see. If i like what i see that maybe you know they don't play as much bye-bye if not then maybe they keep going the half Carolina seems like they want to roll out. Sam darnold a little bit more. I was at the carolina game last week. Sam darnold literally got one half a series because they Got an intersection. My son ready. Sam darnold took it a little bit further than that was about it. and Robbers solid for the jets. He seems like he's going to be definitely playing start as a little bit he quoted. Bill belichick andy. Reid and mike tomlin as all playing their starters and was like well. If they're playing their starters. Then i might as well play mind sues so i know for a fact that indian detroit both agreed amongst each other that they would not play each other starters. Yeah it's it's really. I mean as a giants fan. i. I'd be lying if i told you i was a little bit I was happy with the fact that daniel jones hasn't seen any snaps yet. I again i you know. I love to lean on my youth coaching experience. But you know pre-seasons great because you can get a used to play in the game. I you know. Call me old fashioned. You mentioned one of my guys. Let me just get started. Sam darnold it did seem like he was a safe play to both get enough reps and potentially be going against a bunch of backups. Pittsburgh is still a good defense. Maybe the backups are good. I didn't really want to target this eagles secondary because they've looked like hot trash wants the starters get away from the field but I'm high on. Sam darnold this year so felt right to kinda close. The preseason having him be my quarterback of course. Everyone is fifty five hundred dollars. this week. who's your quarterback throw. Oh man you know. I'm rocking with the boy. If you sell me that the chiefs starters are playing a have of course starring patrick mahomes. I will never get a cheaper price. Fifty five hundred dollars for patrick mahomes in india. I it's funny. I may have multiple lineups. But those are the two quarterbacks have the exposure to again. Do you wanna half of someone who sucks or do you want like a quarter and half of fucking pack. Mahomes pat mahal. Look all right so if you look at the game last week against the cardinals and you really watched a game. Pat mahomes was missing timing. Like that's really why he kept playing for so long because he just couldn't get the timing right he was targeting mccoll hartman Who i may be talking about a little bit later He was targeting him. A lot inches couldn't get. It's hurting right on this land and the red zone. And they couldn't come away with a touchdown so aspect pat mahomes to drive them down easily and to get that time. Right this time in arizona. Get a couple of touchdowns now you know. It's funny when when you got to exposure to patrick mahomes in the preseason. It seems like you're doing something wrong like This is really chaki. This is but i mean if he's going to get. The reps against backups in minnesota probably feels like a backup second. Secondary wasn't exactly good last year. So all right my first running back. I'm going to that same game. And i'm going to target a running back on the other side because i do think kansas city could score and i don't think minnesota's gonna have their starters anywhere near the field so i'm gonna go on mir abdulah. He can catch passes. It seems like he could threaten to be the the snap leader from the running back position If nothing else doing him a favor to get some good tape out there before they cut him. A mirror dual fifty five hundred minnesota at kansas city. Throw i My first running back. I'm going back over to the jets eagles game and i'm going to start rookie. Michael carter if you wrote last week. He didn't get any reps with the first team last week. He was all seven coleman inside. Johnson which is a little bit concerning for season-long fantasy but If you're telling me that you know roberson is going to play his starter. Some and then. Michael carter is gonna majority of the burn after that against third seconds four strings and guys that are about to be bagging groceries after this and then i'm absolutely going to say that michael carter needs some good tape out there so he improved. Hey i'm wanna get into the starting lineup. I wanna play with the wine. So this could be as opportunity. His his His team over there as former college teammate. Over there in ten devante williams is looking fire. Yes got absolutely Your turn sir. All right jim. Jim my next running back. I'm gonna go to detroit a team that's going to want to pound the rock a little bit It sounds like they're not gonna play their starters. We already know about the swift situation. We've been pounding the fade the andrea swift for long time on sports gambling. Podcast love jamal williams. How smart does my thirty percent. Jamal williams ownership in underdog best ball look now Come at me. i'm going to go to another running back on that team. Someone i have in some dynasty and that's Oregon state former beaver dramatic jefferson. Another guy a project him to if not lead the running back group in snaps to be close to it So again just looking for the opportunity with the running back positions going tomorrow. Jefferson detroit hosting indie throw So my second guy. I'm going over to pittsburgh and coach tomlin. You know some five seven guy. He told me technology's not playing. We're not playing this last game. So i'm thinking in jalen. Samuels here gone a little bit further down the depth chart but with the running back position. I just really need like some type of production. He gets the rushing load and then he also can catch out the backfield. I'm just hoping for a couple of dump balls Maybe some garbage time and he catches a bunch pass out backfield and can run up the score from just a little bit all right. Let me Let me pair my The guy who i would be stacking with patrick mahomes and that's He's i believe he's lead. He led the team in snaps from the wide receiver group last week. And that's moco harbin I don't know if the fantasy community has willed their way to like elevating him or if this is just truly they they need to see what they have from a guy who hasn't necessarily performed when it's mattered again. I think he could be the guy to stack if you wanna stack with patrick mahomes co hartman. Fifty five hundred again. Everyone's fifty five hundred. I don't know. I said that. But hosting the minnesota vikings who should be playing all backups Terrell who's your first wide receiver. Well obviously we didn't talk about our lives before we came on the show today because my receiver meco hartman. Like i said i'm stacking them with pack mahomes here and i watched that first half because i'm a huge pack mahomes fan if anybody wants to join a pat fan club. Amd president. i am semi membership. I will send out my email later. And if you want to join you can michael hartman. They were just off a few times. He was targeting him heavy in the red zone like heavy in the red zone and it will just off on those slants by just inch every single time so i think he really wants to get me call harmless some shine get him a really good contract at the end of his tenure. And so you know it's going to start here and hopefully is a either a long burner. That goes for a touchdown. Just something in the red zone. But i think he gets into the end zone this week. All right second guy is going to be my stack. And that's a terrorist marsal junior Again they're playing starters. He appears to be locked in as the the big slot starter This team can be very fun to watch this year. And i think he's going to be a reason. Why so i just i. I like the chances that sam. Sammy dean Turns marshall hookup for a touchdown in their half of play in this game so stacking me. Some darnold grow our second. I'm going to indiana. I'm doing desmond putman batman batman today Second year six round guy Six four so. I think sue wanted twenty five pounds. I think bad Watching him this preseason. He's has six targets in the first game in the second game put together a pretty good hate and he's one of those guys like one of those guys there's late late round drac Could be on the chopping block. This year i know is his name and a couple other names that are on the chopping block of guys that are fighting for that last wide receiver spot. I think all the other five spots have been locked up in his one more. And i think that pacman is really to get it so I'm going with him. I think that he got the opportunity. And then if etlinger is going the whole game he's definitely gonna get the workload 'cause that's gunslinger right there. Yeah i mean i. It's it's certainly going to be an interesting situation watch. I think pamela colts fan. I'm really worried about the health of my starting quarterback. i'll say that all right. My third wide receiver. I'm going back to the jets. I'm actually gonna play a little further down the depth chart and that's braxton berrios just because like this is a perfect. I wasn't a fan of miami but he this type of receiver he's going to be A lot of comfortable throws for whoever's throwing to him. I don't even know if it's with the starters in new york. But i think braxton berrios could see a lotta snaps across multiple units and again. He's going to be running those routes. He's playing for a roster spot so we could see the. Hey hey vet you know. We're we're gonna cut you so we'll give you a little extra time to get that tape down I like the profile for him. So through braxton barrio sin is my last Wide receiver also wanted to fade that The second and third string and ford string for the eagles is maybe the worst secondary i've seen in in a very long ninety even just trying to throw shade at the they. They have looked horrible. And i get it new coach and everything but if you wanna get you tell me what team what unit has looked the worst out of anyone in preseason though the defense phillies is tough to look at all right. Terrell third wide receiver a out our set any eagles slander whenever we can get it but covered some my third wide. receiver is a guy From here columbia. South carolina shy smith for the panthers. he was one of the highest grade wide receivers of the preseason so far by. Pf he's a big guy he can get down the field and makes some crazy catches obscene play. Usc a couple of times. And he's really a baller and i think that Especially at the the guys outside that depth chart outside. Dj more outside. You're obviously tears. Marshall it those guys kinda get some early and then are put out there and show. Smith is at that point the number one receiver that they have soon. I think that he's gonna have an opportunity. He's going to get the workload. Then they have a good A good stack of qb's pj walker back there as well that can get him the ball. So i'm going with my thirst i mean again. I kinda like with this offense. Can i like the carolina offensive situation. I'm excited about it right. So i because i didn't stack them. I didn't put mahomes in with one of his receivers in this lineup. I did go with the second chief. And that's the tight end Another another me like looking towards my dynasty team for someone who's going to get some reps here and and i think All you read. About noah and chiefs camp is that this dude is going to get some playing time this year. He's he's fighting. Back up. Travis kelsey which of course you don't get much work behind travis kelsey but you do get that work in the preseason. He's looked good in preseason. So i threw him in as my guy he might get some reps with the ones and he could cause i could see them not playing a ton of kelsey but playing the one's a little bit and gray would be the guy in there so i throw my tight end We got zero for your tight on. I'm happy to go against you. He said he's playing the wines. He said he's played the woods. If i get a ward half which is kills. That's better that every single site. That was that i could have picked from. We'll take one half a travis. Kelsey so i got chavez calcium spot if i can get a few catches a couple yardage and it may be a goal. Look by pat mahomes in that first half and then. I think that's going to be a good output to get me You know a hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I mean i. That's the best part about these. Dfs lineups in the preseason. The you know. I think it's even The variants makes it even more likely to win the money. I mean not not to say that. Our listeners aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. But i think there's certainly like brings the probability of the extra sharps down a bit all right last guy. I looked down the depth chart and minnesota. Because i did want to grab a receiver. I do expect that. They'll wanna work there passing game a little bit and they're not playing the starter so i'm going to friend of the programs son. Chad bb Yeah that's right. I'm going to chad baby. This is more of just me wrapping the brand than anything else. I think he's gonna get. He should get some decent workout there. Maybe he'll tell me. I'm a complete idea terrell but that's my flex who you're going with the flex spot now. I'm still in that game. And i'm going The minnesota running back. Aj rose junior so The thought of this is. These are undrafted rookie. That really wants to make this change. And guess what they did Earlier this week. They signed ito smith. And so will. Smith is coming in and you don't sign a guy late that you're gonna keep them so now. Aj rose has a fire. Says he's got to really show up really big yet. Twenty-five carries for one hundred yards in that first game against the broncos it they handle mall and give some more of the workload he could dice run maybe a score. Something a put his name out there so long. Aj rose jillian my and my flea zeros junior could be a all right defense I mean if detroit's not playing their starters and we already think they're going to be horrible. I'm gonna play the colts defense. Cool we all agree all right. Easy dating danny questioning. I knew it was going to be the chalky defense but it does seem like there. There's going to be a touchdown scored there all right. That was fun terrell I gotta be honest. I have five lineups already for this. Here's the pairs of problem. I started doing the prep-work glass. Five lineups already. How how many lineups do you have currently for this preseason sleep i have three three lineups. Yeah i definitely played a sam darnold angle. You know. i'm big on. Sam darnold this year i been quoted saying that sam darnold is going to be the number one overall. Qb in week one in week one good schedule. He's got bench spot. Yeah yeah the revenge by that's going to number one. Qb a week one. I'm telling you right now if you draft in late giraffes don late. He's going to be number one overall week one but also through one in there with sam etlinger Just because he's a gunslinger and he's the probably the most mobile quarterback that is out on the slate right now Outside of pj walker so. I think Sam elegant is going to be one of the guys that just throws the ball and he could in with three touch downs because he just threw the ball so much. Multiple uses of the word gunslinger. I like it all right. We're gonna take a before we get to the week. Three preseason lines We're gonna take quick break to talk about prop swap. That's right props. America's number one app to buy and sell sports bets. 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Mr machine aka sports nerd eight to four on twitter aka moon off monje writer and host of many podcast and many articles for the sports gambling. Podcast network moon off. What's good. what's going on. Kramer is week three already. Jesus christ what week and a half away. We're going to be sitting in october and we're going to be like holy shit. It's week eight already. What the hell. What has happened All right so before we get started breaking down the slate we're going to do a A we have a new friend of the program. And that's That's prize picks. You know we like the new hotness. When it comes to fantasy everyone's already playing The big the big boy games will this It's got a little I it's it's got a little fantasy to it. It's got a little a little dabbling in the The over underworld Reminds me a little bit of monkey. Knife fight well. they're new to the game. Prize picks were. 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Fifteen hundred fifty and a half rushing yards Let me also get under fr antonio gibson one thousand twenty five and a half rushing yards again lots of the smart sharp community out there talking to you about how antonio gibson's roles going to expand not so fast and i. I'm not a believer though. Toe injury is gone last guy. I'm gonna throw on the card. Gimme alvin kamara under nine hundred. Fifty and a half rushing yards again. Who don't know what the offense is going to look like. But i do think we're gonna see more latavius murray Than in years past especially in the running game so those are my three. They happen to be unders. And i dropped it in. I dropped it in for You know a little three correct. I did a flex play for those out. There playing the gamut did a flex place scary. I three correct and my twenty s going to turn into forty five. That's my entry moon off. Why don't you take us through. I know you're a big player. Prop guy host of the pratt cast the nfl prop cast so take us through. Gimme gimme the three over that you like for your entry. Yeah i like. You're under angles specially because it's it season-long props but i feel like i'm a life is too short for unders right by so all three of my i'm gonna go with overs My first one is tj hodkinson over seven hundred seventy and a half receiving yards Second one. I'm going with russell. Wilson men right now let rusk cook the new offensive coordinator over four thousand two hundred fifty and a half passing yards in my last one. This is probably my favorite one kind of underrated that nobody's really talking about. Damian harris New england patriot joining back over eight hundred. Forty five and a half rushing yards. Yes same thing as you. Kramer likes play but also did the power. Both i realized that was being a pussy by only doing the flex. Play where you can win even if you go two or three. So i also just filed it into a A full power play as well so play. Twenty wins one hundred. So let's go. How confident i am. I won't with both entries for flights play and powerplay threats so we do here on the we. We let her ride. Terrell only doing the power play during over over so starting. i'm gonna absolutely fade you. So one of us is going to win. Because i'm taking over and sony o gibson oodles in twenty five rushing yards. There is no way if it can be the rb one and fantasy this year. He is that good they are gonna utilize him is not just going to be all ryan as passionate because when you let them much he's gonna throw interceptions to run the ball with somebody so like antonio gibson there i like michael carter to go over that five hundred seventy five rushing yards if they really really liked this guy. He's not getting the work with the ones right now. But seven coleman is in front of him. I doubt that he can stay healthy. The entire season and then tie johnson there too. I think is really path to michael. Carter getting The workload there and then finally cow peace over eight hundred point five receiving yards. He is definitely going to be the number one rookie titan ever and i bet who knocks. I am putting everything on it here. I think that he's doing already gosselin future tickets on cow piss rookie a rookie of the year. So that's my injury cockpit against him. Michael carter twenty five to win one on. you know. i like how you went full. You said you guys are pansies for going with the flex play and remember use. That promo code s. gp for one hundred percent instant deposit match hundred dollar instant deposit match with that promo code rush g guys now that we got that out of the way. Which by the way unsolicited Pro pro unsolicited prize. Picks feedback. I'm going to be playing more of these entries during the year for sure all right. No doubt friday. We're we got. We got college football this weekend for real but we got We got the final week of the preseason friday four pm the slate kicks off. indy heads. The detroit where detroit is a two point home dog plus one fifteen on the money line minus one. Thirty five for the colts. Thirty three and a half is the total. Start with you moon. You like in this one this. This is a little hard for me. the the lines are in two and the culture to on this preseason. He almost got a thing. That dan campbell. Probably wants to get at least one victory before the season. The preseason over just to kind of have that positive momentum going into that week off before the full season starts and then the season starting the lions or man. I don't feel great about it. But i'll take that plus two And again we'll take the under on this game. Also because why not right were as she was was hot absolutely hot in week one week to kinda carry it over. Also i think it'll ever into week three also so maybe a little parlayed. Their two of your frisky really really full full hashtag. I'm going to recycle this. Because i did use it on the nfc north preview. What i read a quote from dan campbell. I love the fact that we are known as meat. Heads i'm amid. I have limited brain capacity i. I'm good with that. I have zero problem with that. That's him speaking chris spielman. Yeah he obviously wants to get a win here. Terrell do you. Do you agree absolutely. Not there's frigging terrible guys like even even third or fourth strings are bad like these guys. They probably should be. I don't know working at fedex or something like that in no. I'm not buying the at all. I don't think dan campbell is going to light a fire anybody. They know their bad. I'm going with the colts. i mean. Good luck to you. You do like a gunslinger a you. You mentioned that earlier So so All right way too much time talking about detroit versus any next philly heads to new york joint. Practice smorgasbord this week jets. Four point home dogs minus or. I'm sorry did i write this down around. Jets are a four point favorites. Yep their favorite minus two twenty five in the money line eagles plus one eight hundred. Thirty four is the total i. It's hard i'll start with this one I'll start on this one guys. It's hard for me to want to take the eagles Just with the way. The backups have looked on defense. It seems like any competent. Nfl unit can pass on this trail. Which way you're going. Oh yeah. I'm ryan with the jets. I think robert solid say that he is following. Read tomlin ambala chicks footsteps by playing the starters So i'm ryan was that wilson against the eagles secondary's terrible hundred percent agree with you guys. I mean i don't know what the hell does. Eagles team is doing down there Jalen hurts we saw last week. He didn't play because of a Injury got pulled last minute but he was dancing pre game so we don't know what's going on with that but the jets Agree with everything. Tyrrell said there that they want to get this victory. Let's get some momentum going into the start of the season. The eagles are going to be a dumpster. Fire sorry shawn breaking news. We'll be bringing this up with sean on air The jalen hurts stomach gate and why the coach felt the need to lie about watching him talk about the situation. I felt like i was watching My youngest daughter lie. Try to lie about how she didn't make the mess. It was really really pathetic for thirty mil. So you know. This is the actually the second time that they jalen hurts when there was nothing wrong with them. Well it i want this is this is so you know. I don't wanna get i'm gonna save it. But trade had trade loading to shawn watson trade loading all right cardi on friday on the west coast. Pittsburgh has the carolina carolina minus three and a half minus one. Seventy on the money. Line pittsburgh plus one fifty. Thirty five is the total. I think i know where tyrrell's going in this one and myself because it does seem like carolina is gonna play. The starters were pittsburgh isn't any reason to take pittsburgh here. We know tomlin doesn't give a shit about the preseason munaf not already said that dwayne haskins. It's starting this game is absorb wayne. Haskins is a starting quarterback in this league. Let alone a backup. Let's go with high panthers. Go into the into the season also. So gimme the gimme. The panthers true. Go sil- yeah. Oh yeah you know. I'm ninety minutes from charlotte. Shout to the seven four. We go on with. That's not to have surperb. Ab sir. he's he's our guy. He's our official mascot of the sports gambling podcast network last game on friday five. Pm kick on the west coast minnesota heads to kansas city with cheese or minus four and a half minus two hundred on the money. Line plus one seventy four. The vikings thirty. And a half is the total Zimmer is typically a guy we back in the preseason moon off but and terrell. I'm gonna let you go first here. The chief seemed to be playing their starters. There is no way. I'm not backing patrick. Mahomes one half apache. Mahomes is better than half of the vikings against nobody in the second half. Give me the chiefs minus four muna. Something right with the minnesota. Vikings are where we've talked about. How mike zimmer loves winning or playing hard in the preseason but something that right there with the whole vaccination then kobe thing whatever's going on but Yeah i agree with you guys i. Maybe i have bet on kansas city to her playing their stars pressure. They won't be playing in the second half but This minnesota team just does not look right right now. If you if you as a franchise are focused more on how to expand the size of your meeting rooms to accommodate your quarterback to make sure you can stay socially distance. I don't think you're focused on winning games. I'll join you guys stay chalky as all fuck At least moon off. And i took a dog with the first game terrell. Well there wasn't that we're we're extremely you right now. Saturday morning ten. Am green bay. Has the buffalo bills are minus nine and a half preseason what minus four twenty five on the money line packers plus three twenty thirty six and a half on the is the total at a principle. I don't see why you wouldn't take the three twenty here. Although the packers have looked like a hot mess moon. Explain this crazy line to me. Yeah i i think Sean mcdermott came out. Said that majority of the stars will be playing in this game including josh allen. We exactly sure how long they'll be playing but they will be playing so give me the packers twenty points for a preseason geico online and a half maybe they dominate the first avenue the bills but Green bay has salvage something. You're the preseason. I'll take the plus and ask for a little bit on the money line also anyway. You're taking the favorite terrell huge number. Considering the total is thirty six and a half. Look the most disrespected person in the league is jordan love in love joy and love got ousted when aaron rodgers said that he was in playing. Everybody said no joy. Low can't leave this gene jordan. Love can't do that now. He's getting over the injured his shoulder and they said he might play. He's definitely gonna go out there and getting them money line. When i'm back in the packers especially of joy love is out there. Throwing the ball. I mean shadow through the books lay in a putting out a minus four twenty five on buffalo. You're saying you know what three to one on the packers all right three. Pm on saturday. Baltimore heads across town. Take on the washington football team that actually plays in maryland for those Trivia nerds at home plus one fifty on the money. Line baltimore minus three and a half minus one. Seventy thirty two and a half is the total. There's nothing to discuss here because all we do is back the preseason. Ats guide harbaugh right. We were laying the points right. No argument from me cool. Yeah i can't. I can't see a reason not back here. Even though it doesn't look good. I can't see her. Nineteen nineteen. yeah yes eighteen or nineteen something like that and normally back the qb battles will quote unquote q. Battle that's going on but harbor already beat the saint. So he knows what he's doing he understands that wins in the preseason matter and especially covering the spread next four. pm on the west coast chicago. Heads the tennessee. This is an intriguing game. I definitely have circled as this is one that i want to watch. Don't know who is going to get the starts but chicago. Favorite minus three on the road minus one fifty five on the money on tennessee. Plus one thirty five thirty five and a half is the total terrell. Starting with you are we. Are we playing. Are we playing chicago because we think justin in fields running around. It's just too much for that tennessee from -solutely absolutely Just feels is getting start so Matinee say justin. Phils getting to start playing the first half so i'm definitely rolling. One of the first half of justin feels just to get them out and mike was one of those coaches. That doesn't care about pref- preseason he doesn't care you just trying to overweight and look at his guys so i'm back in nagy and the bears here yet. You gotta also give monday. There's a huge kobe outbreak. Going on right now for the tennessee titans man verbal might not even be on the sideline. And we'll see what happens when it comes to saturday. Also keep in mind the tennessee. Titans came out and said they're starting matt barkley. Okay that's all you need to know that you know just in fields versus matt barkley. Give me chicago bears. This is locked territory possibly for me. You know what. It is crazy with the usc. Quarterbacks i mean how how. How is matt barkley. Still in the josh. Wrote the valet quarterback josh rosen. The league Matt liner triggers example. My god they're all all my forever five. He was into league forever. Wait so you guys both on Your both on chicago hundred percent And we are doing a lot of agreeing I like that means. We're going to win some money. All right arizona at new orleans new orleans minus three and a half minus one ninety on the money line arizona plus one sixty thirty four is the total munaf off. They were dancing after the last. W i think james got low and then eight the w None of this was metaphorically. Speaking of course I love jamie says a fantasy quarterback. I love it what he could bring to the team. A shawn payne just doesn't give a fuck about. Preseason why are they favored. yeah i don't know. I think we're pretty sure that winston will be the starter week one of the regular season I think is the more important game possibly for arizona right. Because i know i think we can say that kingsbury is on the hot seat. Override for sure right and then. I think that there's some. There's some positional battle still going on arizona there so from what i've been reading so i think that they'll put more of an effort there The dancing will not be happening in the locker room for the saints. This weekend i'll take care asari arizona of the points. Terrell you agree. Oh no i'm laying points. Qb one qb. One with james man He's they still haven't on starter. And i feel like that's probably loves the most disrespected. James might be. The second most disrespected the fact that he's still in a qb battle with hasten hill. There's a kiwi battle going on with tyson hill night in so absolutely not. I'm rolling with The saints here. I think they'll get some good quarterback play from both quarterbacks and they'll go longer in the game yeah i mean hopefully the simplicity. Simplicity of the cliff. Kitchens offense isn't too Simple even for the preseason. But i'm also going to murray. I'm also gonna take arizona because i i just. I'm not getting behind this new orleans team. I let's move on tampa houston five. Pm on the west coast tampa minus four and a half minus to ten on the money line. Houston plus one seventy five. Thirty six and a half is the total of course Munoz lets you stop it. Of course the new head coach there in houston learned from the very best and john harbaugh. He's doing it on the field in the preseason. Of course i'm gonna take the points here with the houston. Texans moon off my crazy. No sir. let's in his feet of because we're not going to have very many wins during the season. I think this is gonna be interesting kramer. I know we've been going back and forth about texans. Which are the texans going to have. More wins at preseason or the regular season. We're going to have to have a. That's a great if they go three. Oh that's pretty hilarious. Because i mean. I know they're win. Totals four but man. You gotta i almost feel like i want to take it down after they all the load up all these winds in the preseason turnover you on the texas do oh absolutely bucks have had huge spreads against the bengals and the titans and lost. Both games outright. So i'm definitely right. And what the texas here. I think they'll one hundred percent have more wins in the preseason than regular season. Actually texans are going to be this year's jacksonville where they first win and week one and then they lose every single game after that we agree on the first one and by the way i have a more breaking news to report a friend of the program. Scott browser disclosed that. He is going to be going onions. And taking the texans as week one survivor. Pick so That's a great. That's a great one. I mean i like it if you if you get right if i'm if i'm multi entry survivor pool. I'm one hundred percent firing on an entry with houston week one because man that would be an advantage all right. We're on the next up six oh five. Pm on the west coast the los angeles rams head to denver where the broncos are minus eight and a half minus four ten on the money. Line rams plus three ten thirty three and a half the total. I know mcvay doesn't care about winning the preseason but denver just announce their starter and the rams y. You could argue. They have some talent on that team. So out of principle. Gimme the rams plus a and a half throw. Tell me why you would. You're going to tell you take the points here since you like of chalk. No we go. I'm not gonna say the points. I'm actually going to lay them with denver here. They they alone teams out. They blown teams out this species. I like everybody thinks that because there's so many points that denver is not going to cover If lock gets majority of the snaps his game he's going to be pissed that he's not starting he's gonna want to show them that. Hey i should have been a starter so this is a huge number. And i can't believe. I'm saying but i really don't even know. They're the favorite. I don't think the money's coming in on denver. So i'm going to say though. See this is new. You're gonna you tricked me and pretend like you weren't going to be chucky. You went back to the chuck. I like the handicapped though drew lock in a pissed off state. The only problem is i see my Teenage daughter when she gets pissed off and she just storms off into our room. That's what i would imagine. Drew lock is also going to do with his toys. Maybe moon off. Are you taking the points. Or are you laying the points God i agree with terrell. Here i think is going to be game for drew. lock We're not sure how knees naps. Or even if bridgewater plays in this game. But i i really like i have. Denver broncos years michigan drew lock is going to get the start here Yeah everything tyrrell said that it might be mind being fu mode Let's not forget man. This is drew log man. He was james into i. Think a rick ross. On two seasons ago at halftime us appeals rapping and singing the lyrics. This guy this guy will get down man Some rick ross are ought to send you the. Are you saying that. Drew lock is Dog through locks dog. We'll have to know it was put on by. Jesus yeah you gotta watch out. That's funny you guys are making me feel all right next up seven. Pm on the west coast the chargers they had to seattle take on the seahawks or minus five and a half minus two fifty on the money line chargers plus two hundred thirty five is the total. All right well This is one of those situations where you know. What are we supposed to do. It's a peak. Carol coached team. We generally like to back in. Let's back pete. Carol ross cooks munaf yet. This is really have to see who is starting. The stars are playing because seattle in the first weeks. They've scored a whole ten points in the Games macaque yes. It's time for them to cook. This might be another game where you want to look at the first half man all the points here with the seattle seahawks fan At home let's get victories. Put some points on the board in Get into the season where russell west russell westbrook. Russell wilson is going to be. Mvp let's go. That's a hell of a slip because russell westbrook is not going to be the mvp this year trail you in agreement with seattle. Yes i am in agreement with seattle. Owen soon preseason mp carol he's gonna wanna put a statement on and get these boys ready for two weeks. I gotta go to indianapolis so i think Peak carol carol here and i'm just gonna fade the chargers and so they shall be otherwise before this twenty. I think i think he's number is twenty five fifteen and one against the spread coming into this year carol so some positive regression certainly certainly on the horizon. Right we're gonna take a quick break before we get on to the sunday games the talk about paramount plus the summer of soccer continues on paramount plus stream over two thousand soccer match the year from around the world. That's all the heart pounding drama from. Cbs sports including uefa champions league the europa league italy's syria argentina's primera division. The brasilia ro nws sell the asian football confederation and the concha caf qualifiers with featuring the stars from the us and mexican men's national teams plus much much more. It's the best of the beautiful game with all the beautiful names. Like messy imbaba rinaldo repea- no an pulisic be part of the excitement. Champions are crowned and history has made the world game lives here on paramount plus visit paramount plus dot com to start your free trial and stream every match live all right back to the action sunday sunday sunday again. Warm and us up with a ten. Am kick on the west coast. We got the loss vegas who who are. Who are the cowboys plane cowboys. Are there at home against the jacksonville. Jaguars you i screwed that one up jacksonville. Jaguars heading dallas dallas plus three and a half on the On the spread plus one fifty on the money line jacksonville minus seventy thirty. Six and a half is the total The more i watched hard knocks the more. I am just like for the shout out to everyone who thinks the cowboys are just going to step back into having a super dynamic offense problem and just everything else is also going to get way better. You're out of your goddamn mind. They had a decent offense last year. Yes but they were they were. They were a couple of plays away from being one in five. God damn it. It makes me so angry I don't know what to think about this handicap. Though so i'm gonna punt it over to tyrrell who excite you taken. Oh my god. I don't wanna say i feel like they're gonna make me regret or they're gonna make in the show. Take the cowboys. In the point. Here is a show on their on hard dogs and you can't lose all four games. Dogs have the team lost every single game or hard knocks before like can't lose all of them can you. I mean i'm gonna give you a pass as a giants fan. This is preseason. i see what you're doing. You're getting it out of the way during the pre moon hall absolutely side. Are we taking. Yeah rookie rookie quarterback They need to get a victory geared to the jacksonville. Jaguars expect trevor lawrence to get some significant snaps or at least at least play a full first half for this team Giving the jaguars. I'm not. I'm not betting on the dallas cowboys owen. Four are they're going to be for the preseason owen seventeen for regular season. Let's go all right. So real quick. Recap i'm also going to be on the jacksonville. Jaguars moon off understands The the position he'll have and then we're going to have to fuck and shine box terrell off the box picking the goddamn cowboys lost august one. Pm move on this this This act will be brushed under the rug of history at s at one. Pm on the west coast. Las vegas raiders head to san francisco. Where the niners are three and a half point favorites minus one eighty on the money. Line vegas plus one fifty five thirty five and a half is the total jon. Gruden preseason stud but trae lance might already be in the hall of fame if you talk to the right person muna. We were sticking to our guy right. We're sticking to gruden. I think you kinda have to read. I think that shanahan's going to be more. I think protective of his starting quarterback spicy. Jimmy g. it seems like he's going to be started from john. Enorthfield saw the press conference that he had a big smile on bass. Gotta think yeah. I'm not sure that you know trae lands. I mean he's had some flashy plays. You're but you know we gotta stay with the trends. Don't bet on red when the whole black writers let's stay. Let's stay with the las. Vegas raiders in the jon. Gruden led raiders are you. Are you joining us long cadre. Oh i can't join you this. I cashed a four of four hundred and fifty plus four fifty sixty for trae lance to beat the third overall. Pick in the nfl algebra. I'm ryan which trade leads here. No i'm going with forty niners minus three and a half. Oh my goodness. I love toronto. Either me and munoz off. We're gonna look really smart or you're gonna look. Yeah yeah be really. Bad also let. Let's not forget that. When jon gruden kyle shanahan in highschool got fully shoved in the fucking locker real real quick. I want to recycle another adjust. Absolute glorious nugget from the great jon gruden When asked about The new stadium. He's playing in being called the death star. I think it's a cool name for our stadium. I don't give a damn about star wars though just making sure that you know that. He's not a fucking nerd who watches star wars. Miami has the cincinnati one pm on sunday since he minus two minus one. Twenty five on the money line. Dolphins plus one. Oh five thirty five and a half is eight is the total flora's pretty is a pretty good. I this this is a game that i don't really Have much much much. Take on moon off any anything swain. You one side of the other here now. I mean i'm not sure again. I think this is a game where you wanted to see who's starting Running i believe the last thing i did. see that. Zack taylor said that joe borough was gonna get some type of time. Whether that's one series two series a quarter bhai know. I'm i'll say with dogs man. Gimme miami I think they have guys out there. Fighting positions especially in that secondary. Sorry the front seven by. We'll see what happens. A maybe a stay away here. But gimme gimme the dolphins through. Oh yeah i'm right and with team. The has a guy that sounds like a texas meat as their second co quarterback in jacoby. Perset gonna ride with him. I'm sorry you mean short yardage quarterback kobe percent. I'd trust him to get. I mean honestly one of the nuggets. We have for preseason betting that we love to to lean on is a dopey be afraid to ride teams. That had that have veteran quarterbacks that are gonna get significant playing time in the preseason perset. You could argue is ranked higher than thirty second in the league in terms of quarterbacks. And he's probably better than a couple starters so i like the handicap their oh yeah absolutely per se and I don't think that the borough things is going to be that good. He's he's going to be rusty out there. Like i don't think he's going to set them back a couple of series so i'll take the low advantage there. It sounds like tomorrow. just sucks. Like he's already in his head about drops like that. It's not a good place to start. We saw what happened to jerry duties. Rookie year all right next up three. Pm on the west coast. Mind new york. Giants host the new england patriots. Bill belichick not a guy who gives a shit about the preseason. Neither is joe judge patriots minus three and a half minus one eighty on the money line. Plus one fifty five for the giants. Thirty five and a half is the total. I don't know if you saw the news coming out of the joint practices moon off but mccorkell jones hall of famer ball barely hit the ground. Moon offer we. Are we taking them now. That it looks like this could be. This could be the last straw to get him. Name the starter yeah. I got to stay with the patriots. Here man no disrespect to your team. I think mag jones is probably wanna come out here and take in win this job size starting quarterback right. We saw the whole cova thing or the misunderstanding by cam. That opened up the door for mac jones. Come out and play well and your third preseason game get named the starter and go out and window rookie of the year so let let's go with Say with belchite Against the joe judge here tomorrow. Oh now i'm writing with she man here. I can't go against my boys mack. Jones had a great practice. He also had a bad practice that defense guide into his head. What these are owners. What defense he knows. What defense james strap berry back there So i'm ryan with the g. Men here. I think joe judge wants to go and get get one win like at least one win. And he's planning to start is for a little bit. Hopefully they get into a rhythm. Early nobel is a great dude. He gets his guy set up for success. You heard a lot about the joe judge. Coaching clinics that ballot check would run. You know a lot about how he gets. His guys landed in healthy situation. Sony michelle in los angeles with the rams a-plus plus situation jimmy g. Getting paid like a king out in san francisco. Thanks daddy aka billy will. What is joe judge. Need a little confidence. So i'm kind of with you. I normally would not be looking to take the giants. But i do think This one they get done because old. Billy make sure that joe judge heads into the regular season feeling good about his unit right His his football team not his unit. That would be weird. Cleveland heads to atlanta five pm. The sunday night football nightcap of the pre season cleveland minus six thirty five on the money line plus one. ninety for the falcons. Thirty six is the total. I don't know who's gonna play quarterback for atlanta absolutely like the idea of taking atlanta with all these points maybe even on the money line in this situation terrell any reason to look at cleveland. Not really it's too many points. I think that Both these teams are very iffy and in preseason and it's just too many points from me. I'll think i'm just going to side with the points i have no handicap here but atlanta's pretty bad like atlanta's pretty bad. That's true but i am confident. Arthur smith he's gonna find a way to get a win. Preseason week three munaf. Sure about this one guys. I mean they've law. They got blown out thirty seven seventeen in week. One twenty three to three and to god. I mean. who's playing you are you guys. Really trusting josh rosen here or whoever the quarterback so to be for the falcons gimme the browns band. They're going to be dominating all throughout the season. Da i'll lay the points with the cleveland browns. You might be right about them. Dominating throughout the season alright let's We made it through the slate. let's This is what happens when i got to work all the boards. Let's before we finish. Let's make sure we get everyone Quick little lock dog and why the fuck now. We'll do a preseason Week burri teaser. As well and of course pity lock dog. Tease is brought to you by underdog fantasy. Use that promo code s. Gps for free twenty five dollars for your shot at a million dollars. I mean trust me. I i. i have shares on shares. You get the free money. Get the free entry into the the millions. Get a five free entries into the puppy. It's all worth it under fantasy. Promo code s. g. p. An all right lock dog. And i'll say if you wanna throw parlay whatever you want to throw out For the for the last part you can do because teasing. This is pretty stupid I might throw it caesar. We'll see muna fleetest off with a lock a dog and a something special. Alright let's go with the chicago. Bears out the lock minus three. Justin is yields Make his case. I know any alden is still going to be week one starter. Let's see how long that lasts. But i think this time for justin fields show out. I'll take chicago bears minus three s by lock real quick. I love the way that it was reported. Justin fields to start preseason week three because andy dalton is going to start regular season game drew law and justin feels are going to be an f. u. mode so nice. Yeah look out for that For my dog man this too many points about why the hell knight green bay astor's plus the three twenty Jordan love Be playing stars. But i think the green bay packers will make it a game or maybe get the victory here in the second In the second half of that game so plus. Three twenty there What's the word apart. Instead of teas we stink. Let's go with the panthers minus three and a half. Let's go with the baltimore. Ravens minus three and a half and jon gruden. Las vegas raiders. Were less back these Coaches that love winning the preseason as a three team. Par lay there so Carolina panthers minus points raiders minus points and the ravens minus appoints as the barley. Nice all right next up throughout lock dog and something extra for it. A lot is pretty easy guys up. Not we're going for twenty in a row here. Baltimore ravens minus three and a half. Lock it up for the dog. I was gonna do the juicy dog with the packers. I don't wanna match moon also. I'm going to go with the houston. Texans they lock up three in the preseason owing seventeen in the regular season. Maybe they'd beat jacksonville. They they lose. That gave a jazz one hundred percent. Oh in seventeen so Yeah i'm going to go with the texans here too sweet preseason and then for a par lay let's Let's do let's take. Let's take my lock and my dog. So who do the sexist plus four will do the Ravens minus three and a half and less throw in the under on the giants in the patriots games who suit teams that. Don't care about. Preseason two coaches that don't care about preseason less under in there for that and One more. I wanna give you ten to one odds worse. Of course marna sue for the colts lisi minus soup for the coast against the lions. So that's a fourteen parlay it's gonna pay out twelve to one odds earn. I liked all of that Let's let's keep it simple. My lock bought baltimore's an easy in easy out The huston that could be an easy out too. But i'm pretty sure. You told me that. Kansas city was going to be playing their starters. Assure you told me the minnesota there might be a problem there. So let's take kansas city I think he even go. Kansas city first half i. I don't know what that is. But i'll give out the full game minus four and a half just to keep it simple for my dog And and by the way carolina in inconsideration as. Well i just think the starters versus non starters huge advantage for my dog. I'm gonna copy. I gotta do it. Because they're my texans and spit. There's no reason tampa needs to win this game. I don't know why have they not watch houston play. They've been rolling it So gimme houston a plus the ones. It's almost two-to-one too. It's not like they're just giving us a plus one thirty and for my parlay. I'm just going to keep it really simple. Gimme john. The fighting john gruden's you can put all of these on the money line. We're not gonna mess around because t guys just win a jet. The fighting john gruden's on the money. Line the fighting. Pete carroll's on the money line fighting john harbaugh's on the money line That's it parlay those three Enjoy the money that you will enjoy the fruits of my hard work. All right guys Let's do this. Tell everyone where they can find you. Find me on twitter at sports nerd. Eight to four. Like a kramer mentioned all over the as she. Pm website sports gambling. Podcast dot com. Dm's are always open on. Twitter is message me asking me about picks input on things always happy to help anybody so Whatever it takes a crush the books but yeah find me on twitter and all over the as she website turn and again. You wanna hop over into slack. Sports gambling podcast dot com slash slack. 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Season 2, Episode 4: 1-28-20

Brock and Salk

1:16:26 hr | 1 year ago

Season 2, Episode 4: 1-28-20

"Skis Bracken Song brought you by. Eero would subscribe to receive every episode. The apple podcasts or on Google podcasts. We stink now here. Your hosts rocky weird and Mike Salk. Welcome back to the Rock and saw podcasts. Two weeks in a row. Now we've gone without a football so hard. Oh I guess they were some last week. It's just the championship camps. Those stock feels like two weeks since we've at least had a decent football. You didn't hurt the pro bowl. I didn't chart it. I don't watch it. I miss the pro bowl. This year is the best thing about not doing a daily radio show. I didn't watch one second of the proble pot. Only watch takeaways tidbits from last year's Pro Bowl win the game probably did what anybody listen to that terrible idea. Did you watch the pro bowl. I did not watch one second. I was actually watch the competition the day before the throwing people cheat code. Rosie was thrown at the reach circle. The Mark Jackson had zero zero. Not really his thing. He had a safety on another the team. That had more points than he did is accurate. But he's accurate. Passer say Adams Moses more accurate but he said he was accurate enacted he in Russell but he interested in run like a forty against each that Colin Coward. Once then. I don't want to see that I don't I don't I mean if they run a forty what does he beat him by right now oh I think he wrestles a four seven five guy right now and then I bet you he's Lamar's a four four the guy right now and then I bet you he's Lamar's four guy what was Ross coming out of college four five eight four five five you think he's only lost point one five seconds to four five five two four seven five four seven eight. He's running faster than four eight. He's still sub for a guy guys. There's four or five guys and there's really twitchy fast and it's it's amazing the difference those little tenths of a second to make I. That's fair and Lamar is just in his own. He's in his own okay. That's enough Lamar Russell schedule. You and Jim Moore really lawyer. They want to hear about this. I don't WanNA talk about it every email now. Have you guys noticed Kyle. And how do you like almost every email as well. You know what I was listening to Jim Moore and you know what I totally agree with you and you know it turns out me and Jim more like Since you've been with Jim removed from the daily show. Realize is your basically the GO-TO Sulk. I mean what you got to suck. What have you for me? I'm Jim Morse Canada for years. I was an elderly camp. No and right now. I'm I'm in Jim Morris. It's time to try it up. It's time for them. It's time for the seahawks straight up. It is this is the year for them to trade up and jim kind of went through his arguments that it's time to trade up not down. It's a good good column here in Seventeen Sports Dot com but I agree with them last year. They added plenty of death right they. They ended up with all the picks that they did and last year wasn't really the year their roster was in such trouble top to bottom and they didn't have a lot of money in in in spending spending money for the free agency. They really much of a choice. They needed to add all of the depth. They did last year and by the way that death worked out to carry them to the playoffs and won the game in the playoffs and nearly one another so they did a really good job with it but they just don't have enough star. They don't have enough star power and we talked about that last year to the same same was true last year. I just don't think they had the ability to go get it given given sort of where they weren't even having to pay Russell figure out the whole frank thing. Having four draft picks did did a good job. Frank for Clowney okay. That's assuming you can keep cloudy. I think that's at least even in the star category. Although man frank is acting like a star at At Media Day and all through the super bowl week I mean peacock feathers. Oh he sure does I mean crazy glasses. And they haven't seen a defensive then like me I mean like he's he's making a Frank Clark show remember remember with G. and that one time he was with us about paying frank. It's like you don't pay. Hey uncle frank like that crazy uncle your succumbs to party. That's frank and you don't give that crazy uncle. Tens of millions of dollars and yet he performed the share given credit. Because I didn't think that that would happen. We talked about this last week. I was worried that if you paid Frank Clark you would not just go a little nutty like he is at the Super Bowl but they wouldn't be as good and he he has been. He's been a little nutty but not in a bad way. I mean I think yeah I think this is. This is generally fun cool. I like him talking a little smack and preening preening around. I got no problems with that. He's not getting in trouble he's he's not he's not doing dumb stuff on or off the field he's just having fun with the League Lake. We're sitting it's good for him. Yes he's just having fun with that. I'm there for that. Good good for frank but you replace him mclain you you still need stars and maybe they can get some of that through free agency and we've kind of talked through some of the free agents that are available this year but I do think this could be a year to trade up in the draft. Ah Somebody that can actually be a difference maker on your up of framing this way. And I'm GonNa Actually GonNa give you one guy that agrees with you and it's a little bit surprisingly so just a second but instead set up just depth and stars how about your middle class the middle class is taken care of right. You know they. They've got a ton of middle class. A ton of just players. Oh the trey flowers and just a solid solid players on your team. A bunch of your linemen are solid players. I roll players understand their role Bradley. McDougal golds middle-class player in the League your middle classes taken care of in kind of contractually in some ways to a bunch of those guys at numbers. Dj fluker can a numbers. You like but you're talking about the upper crust or are you going to watch the Super Bowl you're gonNA watch a forty million dollar. A year. QUARTERBACK can Patrick mahomes get this off season going to be forty million dollars a year. He's absolute star. You see tyree kill you see Obosa you see you know. It's just the star power. The upper class the upper echelon talent instead of more in in the column he wrote. I'm GonNa give you Russell Wilson who would the pricing that me Russell Wilson and Jim Moore are all on one page of the son and the Holy Trinity a trio three mines. That have always been a like once again. Reconvene over the seahawks draft strategy and it was Jim the put Russell in the hall of Fame Your One and from day. One said best quarterback and see history said it before anybody else said even for thousand Wilson has them he was the profit out there. He was really the Old Testament problems crying out in the desert greater than I. That's exactly right here. Came Russell and their salt in the year. Comes Russell Wilson. Even at the God's Sakes Russell that the pieces are in place on this team that we need a couple more than I think we need a couple more Judean is a big big big time guy that we would love to get back. He's he was so good locker room he brought so many just havoc plays to the field now hopefully a few other players they on defense and then also on offense. We have a great offense but I think we can always add more pieces in. I think that's going to be the part. That's going to be great with John Schneider an MP as well in terms into this off season free agent free agency is very very key. Get News Superstars on your team and try to get great players that could fill the space and then the draft. We always do a great job in the draft and that's going to be really important. They get some young stars. WHO's that guy? It's not Russell Wilson. Oh yes it is. It's not about so Wilson two point. Oh latest software update from Apple. Bill comes through with an amazing new ability to speak truth to power. What power said? Hold on a second. Let me I got Jim Mora one. I got Salkin the other ear. They're both telling me. I need more stars to me. Is this person. That can't be Russ he said actual things. Yes wow he said we need. That wasn't talking with Jake. He didn't say anything like that to Jay was that Jacob play the beginning of that again. That's not Jake Jake Jake's is it sounds like Genesis Jacob. Sounds like him. Russell Wilson say we need a few pieces. Ah defensively because it was kind of like. Yeah we need some piece on defense. Yeah you can always get better on offense. That's how I heard it anyway of like. Hey we need help on defense. We need some stars over there. Yeah Yeah you can always get better on offense whatever. Make sure that the defense isn't what it was this year because we need some help superstars at the end of it like at the very end. Free Agency WHOA. Oh I know what is the one. We always do draft. Yeah we'll take care of that but this is this the now empowered Russell. Yes is this the this is my team. Yes yes is this. The I've heard this from my agent and the people around me for a lot of years and I've always been the one to kind of quiet and just not saying it is very very key. Get News Superstars and your team using these brainwashed. That's your version of of what's happening here. I would say this is what happens when unfortunately Russell's unchecked by Doug Baldwin. This is the Russell that needs to be brought down a peg or two and this is what thankfully Doug was here. Richard Sherman that Locker Room Russell. Wilson would've stayed home does that's right. Wouldn't have said something like this. Wouldn't it talked about how they needed more stars now with Doug around to tell him that he was rotten. And not that good at anything. Darn Right cinema-video nick tax just saying without those guys around he's runamuck he's basically trying to become the GM and the coach now the Russell Regions Peace and say you know what we need. We need some MM stars around. We need this is not to blow it up. So are you than anything years. We've never heard Russell's say no effort. He's never done any not the guy guy looked around. Watch this team. This year was like okay. This is like a two and fourteen roster that I brought to the playoffs at eleven five and won a game I think part of it a AH would some of that. Russell sat on the sidelines. And watch that defense all year long read your stats again. Everything they were thirty through thirty second eighteen in the league US Russell's not blind. He may not show it on a STOIC face while he's watching a game but he's not blind he can see the fact that the defense is given up yards junkyards and that they're giving up touchdowns and problems in the red zone can't get off the field on third down. He knows that he didn't get a chance to go. Go Go back and win the Green Bay game or at least tie it. He knows was that he had to watch Jimmy. Graham of people catch that ball and roll over lay no hill for a first down Russell's not blind. He's just like anybody else. He watched the game game accepting knows football a little better and so he pointed out and said you know we need is helping her defense. Go find it in free agency in the draft. Get me some stars as off Bryant. Is this off put. I don't think it is at all. I think it's not brand enough. Put in just a little bit. No I don't think it's off putting off brand for sure it's offering because you never heard it at least publicly I'm sure privately. He's clamored for but publicly. He's never been on the record. I'll give you three reasons why I think there's this little step beyond all the empowerment and this assistant I'll give you three reasons and number one quandary digs number two David clowney and number three decay. Metcalf three different stories one in season that showed you like. Whoa when you just bring a guy that is maybe not upper upper class safety but he's no middle-class player the students got some legit upside and look at what it did to our defense in the move in basically free agency I? I know it wasn't a free agency expenditure. It was a trade and he gave everything away and he didn't a creative way and Schneider way to bring cloudy in essence. You know he was a rent a player this year. In the off season you brought him in and he was an absolute star in wreaked havoc in a big time. Big Time player. And then you take the player who Russell said from day one could be a hall of Famer you give me that kind of upper scale upper-class talent at six four six three and two twenty and run four three and Gimme that Gimme stars. I don't Gimme Leno Hill. Don't Trey Flowers. Don't give me middle of the road linemen. Don't give me converted alignment. Don't get just Gimme some players with some legitimate intimate upside. And you saw this year and the force of those three guys made wasn't just me taking a two and fourteen roster those guys his free time years physical Michael Freaks they need some and and it's not just looking at his own roster. I'm sure it's looking at the two teams that are playing in Miami while he was getting ready to be in Orlando and say all right. Hold on a minute. Look these guys have over the pro bowl I wander around Alvin Kamara and when you're around these guys that are also the city and saying okay. Patrick Mahomes is throwing going to who he's throwing a tyreek hill and he's like look at look at the weaponry he's got. He's throwing the Sammy Watkins and he's healthy. And what's the other guy's name. He's really go hard metal roof that dude's fast badly fast. So it's looking at the that the that group also I think it's looking at more importantly looking at San Francisco uh-huh and saying hold on look at the way they get after you with four. Look at the way. That defensive line gets forced bucket creature eric arm sets a creature boatswain creature creature's DNA or look at the way they're linebacker. Look if if dray greenlaw doesn't doesn't stand up your two hundred pound tight end at at the goal line. Maybe you're hosting that game. But you're not because he he he he he's just not big enough to handle dre greenlaw who knocked backwards. So they're some rough yeah. I am a little jealous of a lot of those other rosters and I need some of that on my team and by the way. I'm good enough that if you give me some some of those. I have enough pieces on offense to do what I need to do because I feel that strongly about myself. That's what I love about Russell's comments. I don't think he's saying like hey. I need help on offense in order to make me look good. He's saying I'm doing everything I can. I give me whatever spare-part you need on offense and I will make them great but I cannot make the defense great Somebody I like. We did what we needed to do you. This year we held onto the ball. What are your picks all year? Whatever it was like he didn't he didn't turn the ball over but I can't? I can't make them get get Green Bay. Okay off the field when I need to get the ball back while more. So do you think it is harder than ever and this may be another good study for you. How you're in the season of studies? Your Free Agent List was impeccable. Oh by the way did he send it to you. Did how send you manifest night. I have him blocked on my email. You do not allowed to return to. Sender went to my check steph folder. I'm sorry how has my old Earth Link Dot net address that it goes to anything back but I wonder honestly if there are just just less because of what the seahawks did in eleven and twelve. Thirteen in those drafts. Because people will point back and say hold on you found Kam Chancellor in the fifth round you found Richard in the fifth round. I wonder if those guys are just so hard to find that the rest of the leak said yeah you know what If you got a special talent in a special quality in you're a freakshow and you've got a unique gift that those guys had there not waiting around to the fourth or the fifth or the sixth even more so you had so much success that the League is looking at the type type of player you wanted and they're taking them early correct right so so this place to your initial huge value in a tall corner because nobody else wanted to talk corner. Well now. There's five six seven twelve other teams that also want tall corners and they haven't had as much success as I say that out of my mother picking earlier in the dress that out of my mouth the name that just POPs right back the name I said early that's Tk and the fact that he was the last pick of the second round. How is that guy at six? Three to thirty injury prone he wasn't terribly productive horrible. Agility tests didn't run many routes and college but so you took a risk on a guy that had legitimate star power ups and they've done a few of those though I mean let let's be clear Take a look in that second round area and I can give you three picks all of whom were big risks. Two of which worked out one did not. And it's actually better hit rate than you would think right. Frank Clark major risk in the second round based I ain't been kicked kicked out of Michigan Right. You have the his past. I would say it worked out. We have an argument about whether or not they should have gone. Twenty million dollar a year player absolutely and he was a really good would solid player for you after getting them in the second was for the most part of solid citizen while he was here other than when he clocked your manufacturing Number two is Malinche McDowell that did not workout another risk guy in some ways and his worst failure. They've had absolutely and then the third would be decay. Metcalf three guys that you take in the second round now that risk as much more to to do with injury history than it does with with with his physical or mental capability but hey two out of those three actually worked out in terms of the risks to Michael Michael Nut so much Bobby Wagner. Yes he did. So Yeah I was a guy that got in the second another person. I'm not saying that they shouldn't take second round picks or anything like that but if you want to run that same exercise end of the first round it doesn't look quite as good right. That's where you end up with L. J. Collier end up with Germaine Fatty. It's where you end up with James Carpenter or shop any shot penny. That grouping is as much as I still think penny may have some some success. I think it's pretty clear that that was not a shot around the that you needed to make so right that that that's where they're picking once again right. twenty-seven is that were there at this year. I kind of let them to be like seven seven. Oh yeah that's success. They had with those Richard Sherman Kam Chancellor Chris Carson type guys led to kind of being a curse that they just fell back on what we can find. We can get a starter later. We could take risk here early in the draft cause we know we can find. It could be I guess and and I think of John Schneider. Snyder is figuring out how to download a podcast which there's no way he can do. Maybe we should be clear. There's no way John Schneider is listening. There's no way I want to send him. I want to send him to brock. INSULT DOT com. PODCAST John. If you're listening to a website that's in Mandarin Buddy Johnson not listening. Let's be clear he there's no way he can figure this thing out. But you know I think if you were to hear this conversation he goes. You guys are being knuckleheads crazy. Here's the answer have as many. It's Crapshoot Yup. have as many picks his possible doesn't matter and there is anybody. Did you like these last ten years the winningest decade in the history program. To be like I think we all day Russell quarter of the time you've been in every single year save one. You've been to the plan if you like this little run. Why are you asking me for superstars if I want to put on that hat if I want to be John in the family like Whoa Whoa? WHOA WHOA a Russell? A according again. Don't tell us to do our job. We don't tell you. How do you do your job? We tried to supplement you with everything we possibly can. We've given you a pretty good group ago. The whole they definitely tell them how to do his job that that's quite literally part of their. You've heard Schneider say that publicly what he's going to criticize Russell or say Russell to do do this. And I don't think I've heard to take care of the ball and let the game win for us what they tell them to do. And that's what he does by the way. Russell Wilson is absolutely right. They've been trying to scrape scraped bargain-basement barrel for Free Agency. Since the day he got here they have never gone out and identified. You know what this is. One of the three players at the position. That's available and free getting we now know worked for them with Abraham Bennet. Yes and it never worked again. They're free agents. Do not take impacts the only one I can think of. It's even made an impact. And even he. We had a down year last year and he was a second wave guy. He wasn't even the first wave. Go out and identify guys who you know are good at this position. have been getting project to be good. Not Guys who are legitimately just bargain-basement demarcus web release. What do you call no? Let's how do you think they get credit for like fluker. Ziggy Ziggy House. Got a part. That doesn't mean you should also get second week is I mean. They've hidden the second wave a few times and gotten second wave kind of talent. And that's what fluker is. He's he's he's what they needed. That was a good a good pick up for them. It's not a Kendrick. Good middle class middle class. So you've never you've the loopholes. Well those are the ones. That's civically giant normal levels at what you haven't done since April and Bennett is you haven't taken somebody. Somebody a second day free agency Guy and turned them into a first day. Talent right the same way with Sherman and Cam and Doug you got guys is either in later rounds are undrafted that turned into being. You know seahawks ring of honor kinds of guys. You haven't done that since and so if you're not going to you can't keep you know pointing what you did ten years ago it nor nor can you continue to point. You have had success but a lot of that success was was on the heels of what you would done then. This team needs more talent because this year it was Russell Wilson and you know the last time it just was the last time that if if like John and Peter going to listen to us and they're going to say that and they were all down with star studded Orlando Pro Bowl and and I guess Pete was the cat's me out and everybody. Well I wanted to get to that next. Because that's important as you start talking about bringing in free as you remember the last time they took some of this. Legitimate risk and really brought in superstars was Percy Harvard. Jimmy Graham by the way that other corner who is at veteran Tarawa terrible. I mean just a disaster as well but again not one of the top free agents and the carriers are pretty good good but he was not one of the whole thing about Kerry Williams that they got him because he'd been caught instead of as a free agent so they didn't have to give her back. Well that says something about him. He didn't another kick step okay. They're going to him their fundamentals and it was gonNA totally change it and we talked about it. Jimmy Graham. He was not a fit was a horrendous decision. Will help from civil who just just was not a fit. You'll help them win the super bowl. You did what was his contribution to winning one concern kickoff return thirty five eight and stay married aries that ended the game though to be ended. The game largely forgotten was lonesome largely irrelevant at one. Kickoff return against the of if this like tenure kaleidoscope of all of these movie seahawks and made the John and Pete and and Russell together man. That doesn't just about everything. They may trades from our Sean that worked. They've had late round picks of work. They've they've they found. Russell Wilson the most unusual at all of these different things they've taken risks with. Jimmy took a risk with Percy they. They've done all of these things if they were to listen. It's a hold on a second guys. Okay over a decade in the track record the most don't have in the NFL because they run through and they cycle through coaches over the last few years there hit rate has been normal. I'm not crushing John. Schneider and saying he's been bad since the beginning at the beginning he hit at a crazy rate right. I mean he got blackjack every time eventually usually you're going to draw sixteen against the ten and I think he just kind of came back to normal. Yeah he hit on Tyler Lockett. He hit on Frank Clark. He's hit on decay metcalf we we can come through some other names as well Jarran Reed. I think it's been a good pick. He also had his MRS in there so they've sort of been hit or miss. Since at the beginning they had a ridiculous. Let's run of hitting on talent after talent after talent. That was incredible and we'll discuss probably another hit like that. There are some hits that they've made and then you had top to top but on earlier rolling occur because this has been just normal it's time to supplement that with something because you haven't had enough big time hits to make yourself truly great Russell Wilson. You just have kind of a normal amount like everybody's got a couple of good players on their team even bad teams. I mean the cardinals have a couple of really good players layers right and you've got yours. You need a few more violent. They don't need a ton more if they have a few more there right there amongst the best teams in the NFC. They weren't that different from San Francisco this this year but they need more help on defense way. Russell will tell you. They need superstar and they've got a guy. MP Carol that can help attract them. And I I do believe what Jake said being at the pro bowl all and seeing. What a star Pete is amongst the players there? They gravitate him. I was asking Jake yesterday. Okay how many. How many other star coaches are there? So maybe a handful uh-huh right. We said Harbaugh Pete Mc Peyton ballot check read. Yeah maybe maybe I mean there's a couple of other guys on the fringe. ringe of that America has only been to the playoffs. Once I mean we'll see but mcvay maybe on the fringe of that and Sanam Shanahan. Yeah there's some guys who are maybe on the fringe who may become stars here and they certainly are turning in the right direction but in terms of guys who've shown it over Tomlin was kind of on the on the edge of that There's a handful or so maybe a half dozen guys that are that have some starpower as a coach. The move the needle for other pros and we've seen it affect effect. There's a success I mean why does clowney come to Seattle but not to Tamiami Pizza. Big reasons not like the team was so unbelievably talented. He have to be here but pizza. Big Part of that right pete and Rosser stars so who can attract this year in free free agency because they need the help who wants that. Who wants complaint for star? Who liked your daily Clowney has felt like they haven't been treated like a man enough in their career and it's time to come here and be treated it appropriate? And who wants to play for a quarterback that is one of the top three in the game who by the way. We'll go publicly saying Amen. This is what we need. We need more of view. Does that affect those guys is very very key get superstars and your team yeah. Does it affect that. You've got this icon right now in the league. The you've got one of the five best players in the league. The you've got your think that always play. Does that get to stay. I think twenty two million gets clowning. Awning stay I think. That's what if he's offered twenty two million twenty two million elsewhere. Does he stay. Yes pizza part of it and treat me like a man of Atlanta to him and he could go back closer to home. I mean Cepeda have enough juice to overcome some of that home cooking. That's a fair question. Because it's going to be the case with Sharon Reed to and I think sometimes these guys don't know what they don't know about what's out there and that's also a I think for cloudy on that level and he said it at the end of the year and is in his post game interviews. I want to play for a contender. I bet you David Klein and say you know what else we need on this roster some stars ars around me you know what else we need. We need some people in the backyard of the secondary to take the ball he wants to be ripple teams. I don't think so. He thinks he was the star lead. And says there's no great regime green and Brandon Jackson in awesome. This is now now only. TV Not chipped on my way through this double team. Yeah I don't think he loved that either. No so I thank you dave and we'll be right there with Russell and bobby wood to some degree to we need difference makers we don't just need middle-class we don't need to just make something out of nothing we need guys like clowney that are uniquely gifted bet honestly part of what why Russell said that was he was down at the pro bowl around the top. You know upper-class talent when you're around all those guys they just I I remember talking to one of the Annapolis Colts Coaches Clay Christiansen been illegal longtime. He's like man. We went to the pro bowl last year the year before the colts said Said and Dungy was with the buccaneers. Coaching the pros at Man. We went down there in the see Randy Moss like in person. You can play against him right. You could scout against him but when you act and you see how different they are that your players all the time and then you see how different is when he was it. Wow that that is something else right there. And maybe that was good for the seahawks Gopher John and Pete not only to recruit and be around a bit to be reminded and even pushes a quarterback that has never said anything like that over eight years publicly. Right that has never said this is what we need on this roster maybe that was really beneficial week as we look back on it after all Of Influence of being influenced trying to influence of all of it and Kinda refreshing to hear Russell come out of his shell a little bit and be able and willing to say that all right so if you trade up. What kind of draft is this for that are there? Are there our guys in the in the top of this draft that if you trade up for them there it's worth your time. Yes I would say. There's probably you may be more freakish. Receivers Guy I. I don't need that. I know I know I don't know if there's a freakish linemen like into the low teens. Like ten to fifteen okay is there. Is there anybody who can get to the passer. Is there any pass. rusher that is going to be worth your time to trade up for in the in the top fifteen some Baldinger your sound on this kid out of TCU. I want to go back. You know that is an unnecessary shots. Martin the J.. That's messed up right heart. I would surreal shots on this. PODCAST aren't coming until we start talking mariners because we've got a couple of people who are worthy of a shot tail. Yeah I I would say right now this is the early stages looking at Daniel Jeremiah. The early stages there's some creatures on the line a ton of creatures that receiver. This conversation conversation this like. Wow that guy is just wire. There's some of these. You're not trading all the way up to chase young at number two right now. There's no way you don't have enough. That's a generational tower. How about how about a Senate and again this Daniel Jeremiah's list your number three is Jeff? IKUTA the cornerback from Ohio state right. You're not getting that high either. I don't think so. Okay I think anything in your top. Five Live is totally embarrassed Brown. He hasn't been number set. You can't get their worth your time. No I wouldn't for D.. Tackle the tank now. Are you trading up for safety. Like Isaiah Simmons off safeties can change your whole game. Oh He's a safety is a linebacker inside back reason outside backer he is a dynamic. These are the kind of guy. I'm glad you're referencing all these names James because these are the kind of guys were talking about. These are the kind of guys that are just different than everybody else. These are the type of guys that even in a League of great athletes are the most elite athletes. Don't WanNa go after this guy's name from from Lsu. He's an edge rusher. What's his name Jason? Jason he's fast to can't he right through that inside shoulder to get to the game quarterback so that's what L. J.. Call you so that he has him at number eleven. Which means the somewhere in that ten to fifteen range worth your time? He's an edge rusher young kid coming out of Lsu. Richard Sophomore worth your time. Oh fast it is interesting though you go through this and here's another guy. Aj Allah Iowa. You may fall in the low teens for the season was three picking senses and I want some guy from Iowa. Who's really good player doing it? I I guess I I was okay thinking of Illinois. I don't want I don't want to just talking about trading up in the first round when you said I don't need a wide receiver right okay. Because not not in general. I'm happy to free talk. Say It's a different on the bottom of league. Turn Data's playoff usually it's a deep wide receiver class and I'm not not saying you shouldn't draft a wide receiver but if you're trading up in the first round you need is an edge rusher or or such shutdown corner that you know. He is exactly the last. Let's wrap this thing up. Do you feel like it. Because his name popped into my head with a program that's run very similarly with a lot of really good people with tremendous stability and the Guy Thomas Dmitrov trough that. I think John Schneider respect a lot. Who Liked John has been in his job a decade for a reason because really good at it the Falcon said we got to go all in this off season right? We got a quarterback. We've got a lot of pieces. This is the year for to pay off all of the last half hour of our conversation. And the Falcons. We're going after Julio Jones right and they mortgage the farm and and and a bunch of picks and they went after it right. Is that what you're looking for. Do you think the seahawks have enough of a middle class. Do you think they've got enough of a depth that it is time for this team said we are a superstar away in the draft. Got Sixty million free agency and we'll add one or two there because because of that. Yes if they didn't also have the sixty million and I think I would be a little bit more hesitant. But they've they've they've done what they need to do their middle class and the depth. They have the quarterback who was in his prime and they and they have sixty million Liam free agency to also handle some of their other car. You got a ton of picks. Yes yes I do. This is the time but I don't know brock is whether or not those guys I just mentioned. Engined what is this. How significant is the difference between Giovane Kin Law and one of the other names? I just mentioned Ross blacklock's frigging difference between the guys who are going to be available at twenty seven and the guys who were going to be available at thirteen. Is that a big enough difference. This year no significant difference in Earl Thomas Thirteen Fourteen and Rashad Penny twentieth. These guys in particular. Is there a big enough diff- welcome to this crap. Shoot these things. You're you're like the number. Two Fox analysts. Well what I'll tell you what I'll tell you. What having the College football guy here if you can't tell whether Ross he's better than some guy like yours dino's JJ AJ ECHINACEA? Yvonne chasing late First Round Nessa. Right six whatever. They're gonNA listen to sixty probably run four eight at the combine versus Jason Assan. WHO's going to run four four five at the combine? So is there a significant difference between number ten number. Twenty seven hundred Earl Thomas and Taylor mays yes there usually is right right usually paired up again. I'll tenths of a second forty and it's usually a difference. Physical special trade that they have. Yeah and it's something that unfortunately where you've drafted in the mid late. Twenty s gets harder and harder to find him. Brock you're deer with Kerry from twitter puyallup. What is the advantage of buying a new Toyota truck with you down town well because we're one of the largest volume Toyota truck dealers in the northwest? We always have a great selection but beyond that will allow our customers to customize their truck and make it look exactly like they want it and warranties any accessory that you add the time sale if it's included in your financing is just like the new car warranty so our customers will get three years thirty six thousand miles of warranty coverage shorter puyallup all at putting you first since one thousand nine hundred seventy. It'll be a moment where people I think. Brock always know exactly where they were when they first heard it. And that is the passing passing of Kobe. Bryant and I think like most things. It's one of those when you first year especially because it came from. TMZ There's a moment of disbelief and denial. We'll wait and see whether or not that's real and then it wasn't too much longer after that that it was confirmed And we found out that the world had lost a Joe H forty one One of its legendary legendary sports figures and a guy who who did a whole lot more beyond the court. You're what now forty one. Kobe was born four months after me. Kyle they're not thirty two to thirty two howdy thirty two happy birthday last Thursday to brock. You're forty nine. The autopsy forty four in April forty three yep tax down before before we in our lifetimes. I believe not experienced anything like this right. Roberto Clemente Mente was before us. John F. Kennedy was before us I think in our Jeff Junior was sort of similar somewhat. Princess Diana was I think we were really young. Father Father the young. Yeah so I remember. We were in college when Princess. Diana died no. Yeah isn't the nineties. You may have were in in high school. I think I was ninety. Six Ninety seven I think so candle in the wind John. One of my favorite songs says he made for her any who We have seen a few but nothing quite to this magnitude ninety seven and that thank you seven all right so it wasn't college goodyear. Stop it very serious. We have not seen this. We had not experienced it. The the garages listening to those guys talk about it and talk about Clemente and talk about JFK in particular we. We have not experienced something of this magnitude. That just stops you and for us we were on vacation in Mexico Molly and I. It was actually the pool and and Haley Texas versa mason like Kobe was like what I was even possible. And then you start to go through it. And I don't know how in everyone reacts to it differently right for me. I just go into factfinding. What in the heck happened? How did this possibly happen? And then the minute men the minute you heard it was confirmed. His daughter was on that plane. Just just just sunk done just done in for my wife especially to watch molly in this situation really. It was not that we were huge. Kobe fans that's right in some ways. Some of his this complicated because off the court there was some things absolutely devastating. Not a fan at all and it wasn't as if we were born to us by any means Jordan was Jordan and Kobe was really nice player in super competitive. WanNa bunch titles an awesome. But he just didn't have that bond but I'll tell you once his daughter in you heard the the players on the team it was both it was last today's of our trip. I'm always like I can't get over this. I am I just I am hurting so bad for those families involved and when you play in the travel basketball deal and you see that and you see some of the influence of Kobe was having and I think for me in the years ahead in the decades ahead is. I've got young girls Mike. You came and watched macy place in basketball. When you've got girls just directly involved in that world it does hit you? It does hit home that much harder owner when you have made all these trips teams and you know the bond that those families create and you know that he invested all this money to grow the game and you know he flew to Kashmir and you know the relationship he has with. Sabrina rescued Oregon. And you know how much women's basketball is going to mean to him in the absolute fire. Starter he was going to be an igniter for that sport and was already becoming to see that absolutely squelched and pass with him and with his daughter was heartbreaking. That's that's the part of it that will land on in a way I don't think will ever I forget on my wife's birthday. It was her birthday. I don't think we will ever forget her. Forty third birthday because of it because he was going to Really carry the torch for women's basketball in a way that nobody nobody no star before him ever came close to touching. And that's the part it's hard. Yeah that's the part that I think. Hit home the most. And I'll be curious steph. Curry you know has got young. Daughters Steph curry makes now a woman's basketball shoe steph. Curry may carry some without forward but Kobe was coaching. He was integrated. He was loving it. He was empowering he was inspiring. He was growing that women's games he sa- places says that just that that Kobe complicated Very and I think if there's any objection I've had over. The last couple of days is just that I feel like in some ways. People have tried to simplify Koby. Maybe I don't think it's fair to do that. He's a complicated figure and I think what he means is very different to a lot of different people some by age by gender somebody life experience is. Kobe means a lot of by location. Obviously Laker fans. He means something different than he does to come to the rest of the population. But but you know a guy had never feel feel old saying this. I'd never heard the whole yelling. Kobe thing I think I'll yell coby. Coby a never heard that. I've never seen anyone do that. Or why didn't you ever do that. You're throwing throwing like your dirty white t into the laundry hamper co have. You ever heard that Bryan never heard you say that all these years. Have you heard anyone say no. I've never heard her name. People just shooting we are old. I guess in our forties Kobe's age but like I never heard anybody do that or heard that that was the thing but obviously that was now seen seen the video of Justin Thomas doing it on the golf course and I mean it. It obviously was a was a big thing. His skill is competitiveness is perseverance. I know Jay Williams Williams told the story. Have you heard that Jay Williams. He told me that a couple of years ago is hosting a show with them just Kobe refusing to leave the gym. He's not leaving so I was there forever forever. Kobe beaten me there and I didn't WanNa leave with me before but at some point like he's never going to leave as long as I'm here so I just have to go because it's the only way Kobe we'll go. I mean that that level of competitiveness and all that and you know in the last few years he he does seem to have become as you said a great supporter of women's hoops and a fantastic stick father and an investor in a community leader. And you know we talked about on the ninety spoke before the. SP's with Lebron and Dwayne Wade and others and Chris Paul I believe and that was a really the power of a he. So he's so eloquent and he's he knows all those languidly and he's a really interesting human being and you're right. I also don't think it's fair. Air To eliminate from history that he was credibly accused of rape that was settled out of court and that has been. It seems whitewash to this week and I don't think that's fair and this is not Shamas. Shamas Awan yelling. Horrible things about Paul Allen on the day dies his legacy does have some level of complication to it and to completely ignore that which I have seen quite a bit of I think is unfair to to accusers and survivors. And people who've who've suffered now again complicated because it seems like Kobe learned from that and has changed as a human being and maybe that is part of the reason brock. He's embraced women's basketball and becomes such a family. And then maybe he really truly learn from it. I don't know him personally. I certainly would like evidence would certainly show that over the last couple decades. That's right but at the same time. I don't WanNa sit here as big supporters of coaching boys into men the team of Washington and life wire which I'm on their board and pretend like this wasn't part of Kobe's legacy it is doesn't mean that needs to be the entirety of the conversation. Shen but I do think that it it. It's not fair to people to not mention it. Don't you think in time that aspect will come around a little bit. It's gotta be. It's a complex story. I think the problem is when it's brought up when it's brought up. People seem to get really angry. Resent whoever it is that's bringing it up and it just just makes me ask. Are we not capable of having nuanced conversations in in our world. Oh we can do it. We just have to give up. That's a dangerous precedent to set and I'm not sure I'm willing to except that I i. I'm not willing to accept that we cannot have on. That show. Salk won't be put on the shelf you won't ever be shut out and shut down of those conversations. I love choosing sides I created a game called which is better. That's all about instantly choosing sides and rooting for one of the game called punt or kick it. It's a more new sexual assault. I am I old. Who has called upon? I'm a good game Creator Dr. James name the answer's yes modern day radio but on important things the world needs to be complicated complicated we can't just choose sides and not accept nuance and complication up. Because the world can't work function that way correct and you can't be afraid trade to say what you believe because Oh gosh. I can't say that I would like to be able to say that. I'd like to say this complicated. But then all of a sudden hold on a second complicated the man lost his life while you. Why are you dragging again? That that out of his pass right because it's part of his store this part of the story absolutely and it's certainly part of her story the victim story and there are so many other victims in the world that you know when they seek at raced from history that and pens not fair to to them and their future. So let me ask both because this isn't just about you and how well but you and howdy both specifically said that no we can no longer have nuance conversation. Why do you think that is what's keeping us from our ability to do that because there was a time? I am in history when that was a big part of the world. What is it that you think is keeping us from that? I think we like heroes and villains and we are being fed more of those overtime over time than we ever have before. And we have access to those storylines more than we ever have before. So that's the prism that mostly in and yet even even the movies movies that I know you guys love the marvel movies and stuff even those for the most part the heroes and villains are complicated there are anti heroes and and and they they have elements of good and bad in them and they're on the spectrum of good versus evil. It is rare to see a movie where the good person is totally good one hundred percent and the evil evil person is so thoroughly evil that that's not the norm the movies that dictate a lot of that. Don't show that yes. It's the idea that you pick aside and that you're always on that side live from the time that movie begins so it's yes it's just tribal as a divisiveness that we have right now unfortunately in our in our culture that you're on this side are you on that side and you know what you're going to get paid that way and you better be careful whatever comes out of your mouth next because that could be used and you could become a a huge viral story and your reputation can change in one sentence. It's add a part of it just a lack of time to spend researching and thinking about new ways to instantly. I don't have time to really think much about this. The moment I hear something I just choose as a side one way or another. I think all that comes into play you know. I'm sure that you could go a lot longer on this as well and and go through this but it really it worries me and I don't think I'm alone that if you can't have complicated nuanced conversations about people of motives. Shoes were destined to not succeed as a society. That's major aged problem. The world is complex. People are incredibly complicated. I learned that every day in the management part of my job. People are as complicated every day. Talking to a guy for ten years was implicated but it is interesting. How how much we try to get? And I can't tell you how many people oh I've talked to a guy who said well my feelings about Kobe aren't exactly what I'm hearing on the but I don't want to say any of that publicly because I don't WanNa get attacked for what I think about coby. Yeah I think there are some real conversations to be brought up. I think I think helicopters are dangerous and I don't I don't I don't get into helicopters. I'm not blaming him for his death. Let me be very clear but getting into a helicopter over and over again is a dangerous proposition and taking your thirteen year old in that same helicopter I feel for him. I feel for his daughter. I feel for their family family. And you know we've kind of talked through that moment when you realize that things going down and he's up there it is. It is impossible to imagine being there with your daughter. I have two of with them. You have two of them and Asana. It's impossible to imagine. I also put my i. Don't I don't take helicopters with my daughters so I don't I don't know how to I don't know how gotta like work through all of that without sounding coldhearted without sounding like blaming a victim of a of a helicopter crash which he is. He's a victim. Also dangerous situation to be in. So how do you. How do you have a nuanced real complicated conversation about that without immediately causing half of the world to say you're a horrible human being for even asking correct? How do you learn from anything if you can't ask questions about it? Is there anything to be learned from this. I would hope so. That's why we podcast. PODCAST DOT COM for nuanced and and difficult and divisive conversation. We'll be having a much more divisive one later. I think actually let let's do it here now. This stuff just makes me mad last week. The mariners did their did their pre spring training stuff. They had their big laundry. Big Right The believe big. They did not go believe they believe okay. Jackson had his his over that no. They didn't believe big. They did everything you would want them to do. Jerry went in front of the media and said that's it's GonNa be a challenging year. Of course we got a lot of youth. Were excited about the future. We did take a step back. Take a step forward. This is what a rebuild looks like. And as far as I'm concerned has been as transparent transparent with the media is anybody's ever been especially you go back to Jack who was always circumspect about everything Jerry tells you exactly what they're gonNa do and then they go out and do it and I thank Scott is very much the same way and to hear a couple of takes on the mariners. This weekend just drives me crazy boy. You want to start with the newspaper of the television. Oh I don't use paper okay. Here's the problem now. With the paper of record I read this first of all. I'm impressed with not caulkins. I legitimately thought once are showing off the air and became just podcast. He wouldn't be able to write columns anymore but apparently he can still write them even with the ideas. So I ma- I tell you I am impressed because is for years it seems like you just borrowed whatever we were talking about through a different headline on it and then through your name on it i. It's not quite plagiarism. But it certainly plagiarism. Adjacent anyway without us to help guide you through your ideas. You came up with this genius. One which is let me read the headline here with Felix Hernandez gone the twenty twenty mariners lacks star power and just about any appeal for fans now. I don't pretend that he should work for the mariners or anything like that. He is a columnist listen. Es to have his independence Congratulations for coming up with the idea that the mariners don't have star power without Felix. This year you've nailed it that that is going deep. That is thought provoking. You're going to have people talking about this. All up and down the Pacific northwest and the I five corridor. That's incredible. Oh the mariners don't have star power this year. We can't curse on the on the podcast but sherlock should be at the end of the sentence. No kidding man. The Mariners don't have star power. Yeah that's the point. They're actually rebuilding brock. Do you want to try to write a column about the mariners coming out that Media Day. Good Luck I. What else are you going to write like? If you're in his position as a columnist what opinions you're going to have how about these mariners insightful. Now the podcast cast on a baseball heavy. Not I'm just a just your columnists trying to reach the masses. He's basically saying buckle up. You've been used to bobbleheads you've been used. He's not he's I'm not saying buckle up though and like the first part is fine. They lack star power. But here's what you are looking at fine. I understand that but they have no appeal. Here let me. We read the beginning of it a few months ago. You thought running thought running a marathon was going to be a good idea. These things tend to happen from the comfort of your couch when you aren't feeling any pain but then suddenly you're sixteen miles. The thing feel like you WanNa die and realize they're still ton miles of hell to go and that's when you can proximate life as a present day mariners fan or somebody reading this call. Here's the point. When you're sixty miles into the thing it is hard you got bloody nipple? It is challenge shape and that is that is when it's at. Its most dire point but the point is that if you can if you can get get through the next the next few miles and get to twenty six and you accomplish something that is worth the process. If you bail it mile ten you just wasted ten miles of your life. It's not finish another marathon. It is it is such a messed up way of viewing the marathon. What he sort of saying is the mariners have run sixteen of the twenty six miles and rather than running the last ten? They should make sure they're comfortable now. Go the hospitality suite. Go hang out for a while. Those are the equivalent of adding some stars. Before you're ready. He's literally advocating the exact approach. The mariners have been rightfully criticized for for years which is trying to placate the fans by trying to bring in a star to even when they can't help them win this great hackery. This is just trying to make a cheap buck over over a Jerry dipoto and the mariners expense and it's a waste of everybody's time and energy so I should stop conscious. It really read. I just I did. This child is ridiculous. You moved your emotions truly ridiculous article to the idea that you want the mariners. What you know what I would like to did you? I'd like to take a sixty wind team and I'd like to add three five win players so they could be seventy five. Is that what he was. What he he was suggesting? He was saying that they need makes public money. And instead of trying to be in the world series someday they should try to miss the playoffs as as many times times as they possibly. Can you want to write this article five years ago. We're in the midst of running out terrible teams and trying to convince us that they aren't fine but you want to write it in Dow now when they're doing executive at the bottom and they finally have themselves of the things that hold them back and that's ridiculous and then you use the body of the column to just sort of take cheap shots guys on the team. Tom Murphy was a damn fine catcher last season. But if you put them next to a random mechanic ballard strangers which one's a mariner you'd probably get a fifty fifty split. Thanks so what. And what's the point of that. You're just taking a random cheap shot at Tom Murphy. Who by the way would mess you up just for the record that too serious cowboy boots? Here's late all the guys that take cheap shot at. I don't think he would be the first OPS Turkey hunting right. Yes Sir my bare hands. I just your neck. Let's bring back the good old days like last year when Felix Hernandez was okay. So that's that's the right message. That's what what what and the other the other is. It always gets. Hard with. Aaron Levine ones because I like Aaron personally family but for the life of me. I don't understand the world in which he inhabits the same world in which we get accused of being paid off by Oak View Group even when we're right about them being the ones to build an arena. The one where we get accused of not knowing what we're talking about when it comes to the huskies even though we were right there on top of the idea of Romar. You're getting fired into the early. I mean like I don't have any internal turmoil at all that Russell. Richard Sherman is fine. And he's the leader of this thing that ever needs to move on. There's no way Matt Flynn is going to end up not being the starter because Russell. Well I mean it's like thing after thing that we get attacked for an accused of and said that we're bought and paid for by other people when we just ended up being right when it's all said and done and everybody forgets about what led up to it so when I read his tweet this week and he says in an effort to acquire more four young players and to create flexibility in roster were also paying about forty million for former players to play at other locations data's an actual quote from mariners. GM Jerry Dipoto. Today the plan land might work but that's just nuts. I don't think it's nuts. It's literally trying to get away from a plan that hasn't been working and get to the new plan. It takes awhile amazed his other one says it's got a video of Dipoto and says this is why fans often get frustrated with the lip service. They receive what hasn't Jerry Dipoto specifically not given lip service wasn't he specifically not trying to make everybody comfortable at sixteen and saying you're going to be in it for the long haul here that you're a couple of years away and that we like what we're doing and that they have five of the top one hundred guys on baseball America and they're think they're gonNA end up doing better on on. MLB Pipeline that. They've rebuilt the entirety of their farm MHM system that while they don't have farms at the majorly Earth's stars at the major league level they're banking on CALMAC and Rodriguez and some of the pitcher Logan Gilbert. And maybe there's no elving Martinez hundred dollars cap space next year and the year after year after that like. What am I missing here? How is this that complicated? No and my ah my my real feeling is that neither. Aaron Levine nor Matt Caulkins are dumb. They're not dumb people. I've met both of them. Aaron I know better than Matt. And he's he's a very smart guy he's just being cheap. He's being cheap shots. These are cheap lazy shots in order to attract a short term audience by picking on somebody doing the right thing even when it requires doing something that hurts in the meantime and I'm not saying it's his job to stick up for them. It's not he's not paid for by he's not a partner. There's no reason for either of them to have to stand up for the mariners but to take cheap shots at their expense when they're actually trying to serve their fans long-term and their fans interest. It doesn't make sense and this is the same same garbage as oh they're gonNA charge minor league prices as long as they're losing. What who has that kind of expectation? They're cheap shots and they're not worthy of. Unfortunately they are cheap shots. That are born out of two decades. DOC ID struggle. No they're not. It's not entirely true. Yes they are. They're picking on their ascribing that struggle to people who didn't have one thing to do with it. Those are two decades of struggle for a franchise. It was really good in. That is where the history of this comes from. That is that is where the shots come from. Because that is who they they hear from. That's their constituency that broadcast to that is a lot of what they will hear constantly in it. Is it Mike. It's what we heard on the radio. It's why at times it's really hard. Take Mariner folks this calls. You're just tired of it tired of hearing about all that pass and all that pass and all that pass and all these years and it's just a foregone conclusion and you get frustrated with some of my friends. SMART guys is that they're just like I'm done out until they win and premie otherwise I will not listen to them. It's funny it's misplaced anger. What you're saying yes? It is pent up anger that they didn't allow themselves to let out when they should have because they were fed align and then. I don't agree with them. This goes back to the same conversation. We had a few minutes ago in the in the Kobe thing this is utterly lacking in nuance. This is cheap shot. This is kicking somebody when they're down for no good reason even though they have a pretty good plan to get out but but he's GonNa say the mariners were bad and floundering and didn't have a plan the orioles he called the shots. You want the oil. Don't have a clue what they're doing. Take a shot. That's fair air bad organizations with bad leadership and no plan and no direction deserve a shot but this is taking shots at Pete Carroll in two thousand nine and ten before he had a before we had everything in place and he was rotating through the bottom of his Ross garland planning know what he's done. Yes he did. Hit a pretty good plan. He wasn't completed yet. And I think what bugs me is that both of these guys are smart enough to see them take some cheap points. In the meantime Aaron would say hold on a second. This is my lip service. This is taking shots. He played the video Intercut the two right. This was jerry a year ago so I think that we're likely to threaten for playoff position this year. Our season we will measure our season based on the development of our young players. That was that was this year that was this year right and then the year before it was well. Oh by twenty twenty. We should be competing. Well Twenty twenty or twenty twenty one and they're not gonNA compete this year. Yes I think. That's what Aaron Lip Service. That's Aaron I think that's Aaron literally saying these are out of his lips. This put twenty out there and here we are in twenty. We are not close to what he said. That's what he's Cherry picking off the very top surface of the argument even so in that sense there is some credence there because there is a little bit of twinge of and that is every time. And then I'll just full transparency. Every time that we heard over the years from people there and folks maybe even at the very top it would say. Hey we're going to compete for world series in twenty one Ukraine's like don't put that. That's why Jags Renzo cringe when believe big was up there. You're don't put that up there. Man They took it though as by two thousand twenty or twenty one they were going to be done with this process. It was just that that's when things will start to turn. Yeah and I try to run. I think you are going to see that this year again. If you don't want to if you just want to crush the mariners you can absolutely twist words into doing so but I think if what he's saying is hey buy in two thousand nineteen was the heading down. Still Two thousand twenty should be the beginning of the ascent back up up. It may not translate into games one this year but you should by middle of this year and into the end of this year. Hope to start to see some of those guys I think we're GONNA see Logan Gilbert early. WE'RE GONNA pick L. Nick this year. We may see Julio Rodriguez this year. For God's sakes like we're going to actually have an opportunity to start to see them. Do we expect that they're going to compete for for a world series right off the bat. No I think that's unrealistic. In the baseball is played in the way the way you develop but is it possible for them to start that process this year. Yeah I think we are going to start to see that. So I don't see that as lip service I see that as a lot of honesty and transparency and Jerry Dipoto is part and on the mariners part in general and to take cheap shots at them. I I I just. I don't see the value in it. Well I love the passion I will after an angry segment and a sad segment. Poignant segment we are onto hopefully something a little bit happier rock some good news bad news. No news good news bad news. No News Here's bracken saw. tyreek Hill made fun of his quarterback. You hear this not T- frog yeah. Yeah we've we've had some fun with Mahomes over the years and this was at media night primetime media night and this was his wide receiver. Careful man that guy's throwing you the rock here. He is doing his best home when he comes in in the huddle and he sounds like frog. It's probably my favorite moment. I crack up everytime just like it's the first time you want to hear it. All right. Do Right yeah common frog just like that I. I can't do that no more because look hang on. Throwing the ball is pretty good. I love this team and just how we fight. I gotta go bad news though I face the ball tames defense and offense that everybody can step up and everybody can make plays. Did you see his player. Introduction in the AFC championship Game Hill. No took balls Texas on track. You didn't see Tyreek Hill. Run out of the tunnel. Get on all fours and lift leg to Marcus territory. Oh no you see you know that. That was going to be a big time. He came out and he kind of you know. Mark this territory you just watch the AFC NFC championship watched. I watched the beginning Oh for. CBS break fell asleep on. Say Good News and that dude a chance if he wins the superbowl mahomes to be the face of the NFL. But listen to cowherd all we talked about it. Who's going to be the next phase of the NFL not the voice of the the NFL? Tom Brady is moving. But wouldn't that be kind of cool listening. mahomes tire. Co. This could be the voice in the face I mean he's got to get the ball in their hand out got a boy he sounds a little bit like somebody else might be some more. He's somebody else. That sort of sound of distant drums key loved his his team. And just how we fight a coach. That sounds like that I gotta figure out who it is less you coach now colgate order on somebody other than that or give me one more. Patrick mahomes see if I can figure out who it is. Because there's there's definitely phase the ball special teams defense and offense that everybody can step up and everybody can make plays got a cool mix. Sean mcvay as Guy Little Sean. mcvay look out for a little bit of shopping coach Shannahan working on a couple of plays. They got a really cool mix of charisma and and just edge. He's got to get away from Aaron Rodgers though those stay farmer marshals. I don't know I I know but Aaron Rodgers dragging down his cue rating yes. I think it's dragging down the likability all right next good news bad news. No News Huskie. Men's basketball team has lost seven of their last nine games. What is the deal? Jay mcdaniels benched. Yeah what what happened. Our all these guys have had this supposed to be good. What helped such a bummer? And I don't think this is quality. Green people can point to a green and say this is what happens. You lose your point guard. Everything falls apart a little party when you've already big but when you out of school right and you have to get a D. and you can't get it either but still nobody cares. Let's juicing Greens great. The only reason I know who he is because he plays for the basketball fan. And this is what one just grown I mean this one kid absolutely stewart absolutely living up to everything and more and the other one unfortunately just phone apart on hop absolutely absolutely flu just as all the praise in the world was on hop last year for bringing that team together for that senior class in that group that made it all work absolutely. You gave him all the credit. He's got to take the lion. Share this plane. He could he he. He got those kids from sophomores. Juniors seniors to buy in you got those guys to run the stairs. You got those guys to get tougher for bright plates upper together and he deserves all of that credit for their run into the tournament season. It is so hard I e some of this hops fall some as I think just certain circumstances chances are it is hard when you are not sure whether or not you WanNa be a team that gets the one and done or the team that wants to develop people over the course of four years. There's yes and the one done work for the right coaches at the right program and I think if you WANNA play that game you've got to be one of those programs a program that doesn't let quite a green fan you gotta be at Louisville. Guess what if he's a Louisville quality greenstone of guaranteed. They're going to cheat their way to do it. He is still playing. Somebody is taking that test for him at You know say look at the end of their meeting specifically leave can what happened Kentucky. Yeah really knows what they actually said was that he just wanted to new changes career. But that's the point is like at at the biggest schools rules the right coaches and the and the blood programs. They can afford to handle that because there was this was going to get us. A Brock betwixt Hopkins's tuck INS is betwixt and between China Program. Are they going to see that. To be the case. Though Mike Hopkins me gave him credit over the first two years of his time here for developing players players take the next step and getting Nas Carter to take the next step here. We are with guys he's had. He's recruited he's a year three with guys and he wrote a six man rotation for the first ten games of the season. What are you talking about if we got a full roster and you have? Nobody recruited for next year. You've got no players coming next year. None these are the guys that you thought you were get a win win. And you had this quilting hinge on on a guy who enjoyed mcdaniels just can't can't carry that look at the other. Two Times said this about Lorenzo over his run. What are you supposed to do not recruit Spencer Hawes? He's a seven footer. Tony Jaa Tony Romo Five stars during your backyard. You have to get them guys. Are Your local guys. It's the lifeblood of your program you're not supposed to recruit your five star. One Blade is so hard to go from good to great. I I think in college basketball. Maybe in all sports especially college basketball. The Great Blue blooded programs can afford to miss mcdaniels because they've got three other guys who were ready to take that spot plot the programs that are built on guys being there for three or four years get there guys and they develop them over the course of time and everybody else is trying to to play one of those two games but not committed enough and if you're if you are trying to play the one and done game and the Donald's all America game but you don't have enough of them year in year a year out to constantly deal with the Mrs. You're you're trouble the bad situation to be but I'll tell you unlike college football where it's the blue bloods and nobody else go. Look look at the top ten in the rankings took a little peek at that this morning. You realize that Dayton Gonzaga San Diego state and Butler or in the top ten. Yeah I mean that's they're not trying to play the one and done game. Nope they know who they are. They know what they're getting and the and they develop those guys and because of it they can compete with Kentucky's and UNC's do. Let's also remember. Mike Hopkins is not a twenty year. Tokes idea was an assistant for twenty seven years in an incredible place. He came inherited in some ways of the ideal situation. Matisse Stibal that was a gym that was a diamond in the rough there was a first round. NBA Pick. That could be his cornerstone guy to be the most unselfish just great leader in in you know on his tales beat the mouthpiece for everything you wanted to do this new situation for him. These are charter. Waters He ADDS that head guy. Learn some valuable lessons good news bad news no news Mitch. Haniger suffered another injury related to his ruptured. Testicle will be now be out six to eight weeks and may miss the start of the season. Well it'd be for the news Mike. There's no wait another dispatch news bad news. I don't think it's necessarily bad news for the mirror season but for Hanukkah what a mess Michael Saunders that doomed those two guys every single imaginable injury. Like come on. That's just dumb luck. That's just dumb luck. That's three injuries related to the same payment. This all seems to be each one is trying to come back to early like eight. Who'd you gotTa Not Immune? How intense member our interview with him last year remember? How intensive was very brock rock? Come so intent you remember yes my I was there up calling me. Michael member how intense he was thought he was gonNA hurt us us right but he was like. Oh he was staring daggers. Man and it wasn't us he was just like in the zone. Well that same you know all those great great qualities unfortunately when it comes to rehabbing this kind of injury probably work against you know. Wait a good news bad news Komo News and here's gathered together on Capitol Hill to watch macy. hewer play of asked. That was good news and that was so much fun. I was thinking about that. Actually when we're we're on vacation and talking about molly and senior girls and heather. Josh Thinks Guay Heather Heather doc I mean they just talk now net sesame and I. I was timing or like I used to do and that like my dad. You WanNa post someone. I'm on sesame needs. Someone could tell she was watching. She was bouncing. She likes wanted to be into it so it has touched the wall and back time you launch running journals and she hopped on down there years old. How fast eight seconds? I think you can do in seven. Did it again. She also tried to run like at halftime. Sort of around the court back back through the middle roll the ball white. I thought she was going on. It was like the boulder seen in In the laws and art on take her out. She's just barely like a bowling ball was able to To get away that thing. I'd like a full slate of takeaways from watching because he played tipped cer- takeaway. Well I don't think it at her high. You can call them did this. She is a force man. It was really fun to watch I am. I've I've always been an unabashed macy fan but she she is stone cold killer. She's she's got some of like she gets really mad when she it gives the ball sexiest man. The only person I've ever seen that faces brock and now macy's name again and like a Lotta people will let that stuff to take them out of the game but all those maker concentrate harder. So she's got no conscience she will shoot over and over John Care which is great and and she gets matters pushes yourself even harder. I think he's scored like thirty five. Forty five points It was great and she's playing with their friends would come onto seals just aggressive and just an aggressive group which on so fun to watch. That came grow now. I will say this seem like afraid to shoot even though macy's like I was worried based on your descriptions of macy that has to be like okay. Point Guard shoots Mrs macy's giving her the dagger. Yeah she doesn't do that. I it was the star. You're all didn't do that like her. Dad was you know she doesn't have that at least enough of her mom and there's yeah that doesn't about one last takeaway by the way that jumped out to you. The talk said like eight different types. I can't believe this new hold on. This is shocking so we talk about our ages earlier right so I'm forty one area already. Two and April Brock's forty seven. Forty nine okay. So we're getting all but we both played high school basketball right. We Talk School Basketball Teams in the night and that was just as like the the Michigan had done. Its things have five. The pants shorts had gotten bigger and back here and there were still a few programs that have leftovers uniforms. I'm from back in the day like our. JV still had the huggers became just past the just past the underwear line and we have to occasionally. Usually I told you about the armory where we used to like the off. Campus blames occasionally. We'd have to do it in the big Jim like before. The game often shame that you weren't like all all right. We're wearing shorts that were so small you looked at Daytona. There's you so embarrassing and so finally thankfully parsley is junior. We're we're able to get these giant baggy shorts cared about Alan Iverson and and I know that I know that age and they come in and I knew all those things would happen. Heck Brock's wearing Capri pants today. So anything is possible but in a million years I did not think I would ever see a high boys high school basketball ascot ball team wearing shorts as tight and as short as the ones those guys were getting I cannot walkable assault was beside him rolling is he tried to make the short. The other team had this talk in and every a time when we have some video cameras. Where's this going youtube? I guess if you could see me on youtube right now every time after he would shoot he would pull his pants up as high as he could they were up nearest nipple on the St virtual right never seen anything like it I was I remember man. I remember playing a lot of basketball. No matter what everybody's shorts making sure that they had just just enough like whatever was underneath hanging out crock. Things changed that much. Yes have I gotten that old I. It's not look I'm getting older and I truly do understand that. Fashion will change for some reason. I figured this one never guys Kyle. And how do you guys know this right over the decade we all been around salt. Mines belong it's so awesome all much. It's so much fun. It is like the most invigorating child like it is it is in the watch him. Well what you're what like Jim Mora soon. What is your who brock? You're not the whole warm ups. You couldn't even stay for the game you're go. I'm sorry so he told me I gotTa tell how you couple look fake. So isn't you talking about. I love avery but but had to teach her something at her birthday party. The other day that I was not aware you would ever have to teach kids. I have to teach her how to blow out. Can't Jeez old she's eight she's never seen I don't know but she was trying to blow them out. Clean hand pleasing. We need him. She goes to the cave. We light the candles as she goes. It took twelve tries to blow out a candle so we kind of let it go and afterwards I said evening remind me later. We're going to practice balloon animals. We get home like some. I put some candles in a little piece of cake four and I let them and I was like you got to take some air into your cheeks ear. I was like you know. She just aims not at the candles. You gotta aim at the candles. You're trying to blow out. She was smart and there are things like. I can't believe I teach this. So do you think the practice was justifiable. Our would it be better use like next weekend next year. I have a note in my calendar for next next year. That pops up birthday and says remind avery how to blow out candles on all right. Are we out of time. So you're not going to get the story of my. My parents are getting old now. We'll do that in practice. Started hitting his jacket on and gathering like this. Is the people pacing around here. We've had like fifty your your backsta. Everybody misspelled we gotta go. We're working on some fun. Guess here over the course of the next few weeks and months so we'll do a lot of different things may actually be more podcasting in the next couple of weeks a month. We'll see if If howdy has his way not Some more podcast. You didn't tease this. One you didn't tease any segment coming coming up. Next we got a they have a great rest of your week everybody until next week. The Hay Barns everybody

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 619: Pete Carroll is Outdated

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 619: Pete Carroll is Outdated

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the golden state media concept's football podcast latest news on off the field be at college football ten, Sec Big Twelve PAC twelve acc to the NFL with got you covered listened to golden state media concepts football podcast. Thank, you to into the GMC football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network I'm your host, Kendrick and oh? My goodness is getting hot. This is getting ridiculous now I I have lived in Washington, state my entire life Washington state is typically known to be cooler and to be a lot more way. It rains basically a year round I. Don't know where everyone lives. Listening to this I would be very interested to find out, but nonetheless if you are not from Washington if you're not even from the west coast. Down South if you're on the East I, don't know where you're from, but at least in Washington. It's a lot more wet here. It's cooler and I've lived here my entire life now. I have been other places I've been to Canada I've been down the Mexico for about a week I have spent a lot of time in Vegas I've gone to the few vacations there I've been down the floor though I've been to Colorado Wyoming. I've been to a lot of other warmer places and let me tell you every single time I go there Arizona. It's hot. It's hot and Oh my goodness. Do I not do well I. Get irritable when I get really warm. The more I started sweating. Just kind of the angrier I'm not the most fun person to be around when I'm hot, I would much rather prefer. Fall in the winter. Really are my seasons. Those are the seasons in which I feel like I thrive in everything is just wonderful, and it's it's. It's sunshine and rainbows, my mind, not actually in the sky, but it's sunshine and rainbows in my mind, but nonetheless we some stuff to get into I wanNA talk about peak care with the Seahawks, I have a real problem with the seahawks over the last few years of how the problem with the seahawks and this coming season I'm extremely concerned. I WANNA. Talk a little bit about Madden ratings that have come out. I think that. That some of these ratings are very very telling because I think. Some of them are a complete joke in some of them. Make me think that. Maybe the game is just underestimating. Overestimating some players and I think that as a giant mistake I want to talk about the NFL and the NFL PA, and they've come to an agreement and I talk a little bit about the NFL some issues that they are going to be facing this coming season. I think they are going to have to respond to correctly or going to a huge blow to this league and last stay tuned. Of, the day I'm GonNa, give out my top ten underrated players in the NFL not just quarterbacks, not just wide receiver is another. No I'm looking across the board at players on on every single team and I'm GONNA. Give you guys might top ten underrated players in the league players where they have all the skill in the world, all the talents in the world all the production in the world, but they don't really seem to get the recognition. anyways, let's. Let's go on to this first segment, so Pete Carroll and the Seahawks P. Carroll has been with the seahawks since two thousand and ten and he's been a head coach in the NFL for fourteen years, so we started out with the jets and nineteen ninety four, and he went six and ten, and then they fire them, so we didn't along with the New York jets in one, thousand, nine, hundred seventy, and go into the New England patriots he was. was with the Patriots for three seasons, his record with the Patriots went six his first year, nine, hundred, seven, the second year, and then a nate, his third year, and they fire them he then from two thousand one to two thousand nine I believe went to USC so then went to college, basically gone dominated there and became a the Pete Carroll big name that everybody knew in love, and he became a really sought after coach for the NFL once the. The end of the believing USC, he went to the seahawks in two thousand and ten, his following records, the Seahawks, the next two years were seven, nine and seven and nine, if he had one more seven and nine season I do not believe that he would have stayed in the NFL I think firmly that he would have ended up going back to college anywhere. The probably never gotten another shot in the NFL again, but then something very very interesting happened. That following year in two thousand, twelve, come following that seven to nine season. They drafted Russell Wilson in the third. Round. And from that point on Pete Carroll has never ever looked back because he went eleven five thirteen and three super bowl. That was the Super Bowl Year twelve and four went to a second consecutive super bowl. Probably show the one that they didn't then ten and six, ten, five and one, nine and seven, ten and six eleven and five. His overall record in the NFL is one hundred and thirty three ninety in one. It's pretty good. He's close to a six hundred coach in the NFL which is very very good with the seahawks. Actually he is a six hundred coach. He's A. Point six to eight is what his a win record is with the seahawks. But even with that being said even with how respected P. careless around the NFL every single year when it comes to coach of the year buzz, he is always person. You gotTA bring up. Because he just perpetually with the seahawks wins double digit games, they always usually good for at least one playoff win. There's always there always fear to make a playoff run even if Even, if Seattle Fans Kinda, look at it and say Re really. Why why are why do they think that we're going to do this? But even with that being said I think it could be time to remove Pete Carroll or at least to think about removing carol, if not from his head coaching job. With the seahawks at least from his executive vice president of football operations. Not Too long ago. Every single draft is seemed like Seattle was able to find these late round gems. Russell, Wilson or Kam Chancellor or Richard, Sherman or Bobby Wagner or whoever it may have been. It seemed like he was always able to find these late round or undrafted players. who were just so good. or at least you say not him but John Schneider. Seemed like when he was drafting used to head a lot of Pete Carroll has of course gained more and more control the longer he has stayed with Seattle. I am not sure how much control John Snyder has anymore I. Don't know I if you're trying to tell me. That John Schneider has just lost his ability to draft, or if it's Pete Carroll it's one of the two because recent draft picks of the seahawks. have been terrible. A lot of the people are really hyped up about decay metcalf as they should be because he had a very very great rookie year. It wasn't the best rookie year out of all the receivers, but he had a very good rookie year. But. Do People Remember when he drafted Rashad Penny in the first round. How's that work out? When they drafted. Let's just say L. J.. L. J. Collier. I. Don't even know how to pronounce his last name, but yeah, he's done little to nothing. He was another first round. Pick of there's Do you guys remember all the all the offensive lineman that Carroll has passed on and the draft that he had a perfect chance to get Cam Robinson is a guy who comes to my mind. He went to the JAGS. He actually traded the pick to the JAGS. The jags drafted him. He's been a solid left. Tackle for them, still young still improving, but he has shown. He has great skill. This is Carol Coulda had in a time when their offensive line has been an influx I, think one of the worst trades in NFL history was the trade that they did with Max. Unger Jimmy Graham that was a complete disaster. They never figured out how the used Jimmy Graham which is always very interesting to me when I see these, you see the kind of success. He had in New Orleans. Literally all you have to do is use him the way that they used him, and he should be good right, but no, they didn't. That's just that's not how pete likes to do business and I think that's the difference with some of these new head coaches. One thing that Bill Belichick has always say new one thing that Bill Belichick has that has kept him. In the League as long as it has in, the has kept them with his tenure with the Patriots as long as he has is the fact that. He always changes his system to what. The player does best. He doesn't ask you to do anything. Because he knows that that's not your strongpoint. He wants to make it to your strongpoint. Sean McVeigh Bill System Around Jared. Goff Andy Reid bill a system around Patrick Mahomes even in Buffalo. They built a system around Josh Allen. But it seems like peak caroline. The seahawks are the one team that doesn't really want to build a system around what their player does best. They have a system in. That's how they're going to run it. And you're just. GonNa fit into the system, so the Jimmy Graham thing was a complete bust. And you look with Russell Wilson Right. Whale San again. Entered the league with Carol, he has never. Say, never, he had never. He's only one under ten games one time. And it was a nine and seven season, and it was a debacle of a season. It was so infuriating watching Seattle Games. If you're a seahawks fan for about three and a half quarters, you're pulling your hair out and then at the end of the game. You're relying on Russell Wilson to basically make some insane play to save the team. Every single game seems to come down to the wire, and I don't quite understand why I remember. At the beginning of last season, the bengals opened against the seahawks. The seahawks almost lost to the bengals. And there was like zero excuse for it. And then when they face the steelers Big Ben got hurt. I think Mason Rudolph came in Mason Rudolph still almost kept them in the game. And, it was infuriating the watch. Pete Carroll's resume is not up for debate. His resume is a first ballot hall of fame coach resume. There is no doubt about that I'm not saying Carol doesn't know how the coach, but what I am saying. Is that I think Pete Carroll is very very outdated at this point in the NFL. Here's some. Here's some stats to go ahead and bring it up a little bit. So on average NFL teams played bass defense twenty-seven percent of the time in the NFL, because you just can't play it anymore, they defenses get taken apart now of course if you have like the best of the best players. Most, defensive move most defenses work, but when you don't. You need to go a bit more exotic. You need a disguise some things you need to do different things like that. You need to try and catch your opponent a bit more off guard. So as I, said, the League average was twenty seven percent of the time, teams played bass defenses. Did you know that Seattle played bass defense sixty nine percent of the time. Sixty nine percent. The next closest was era zona who played it thirty eight percent of the time. Where is the excuse for that that is. That is unbelievable. I mean that is stuck in your ways. Here is Seattle's defensive rankings just over the last three years. Let's just go last year. So into the seventeenth they were fourteenth in two thousand eighteen. They were eleventh, so they still had pretty solid defenses this last year. They were twenty second. In that was while having today beyond clowney on the roster, because obviously the train for him. That trade at this point in time is looking like a gigantic mistake. Because now they can't even resign him. They went ahead and instead they signed who brew. They resigned. Bruce not resigned, but they signed Bruce Irvin and some other pass rusher. I can't even remember his name. Seattle's defensive line. This season ranks thirty second in the League. Thirty second that is. That is abysmal I. DO I don't know of Seattle has ever had the thirty second rank defensive line under p Carroll's tenure with the team? So so now not only do you have a middle of the road offensive line to protect Russell Wilson? Who has been running for his life since they traded Max Unger. But now so now not only does he have to carry your porous offensive line in an archaic offense that for whatever reason is allergic? To passing the ball. I they be Carol always feels the need to run the football whether it be first in ten or second in ten or third and ten. He feels the need to run the football. Because all you just have to establish the run. When you have Russell, Wilson, who was regarded as either the first or second best quarterback in the NFL. There's a hash tag on twitter and it's called. Let Russ Cook. I do not have the stats in front of me at the moment, but I remember reading them at the time in a in Russell Wilson actually re tweeted. These things Russell Wilson. When? He actually has a lead in a game. He is better than when he is behind or when it's tied when he actually has a lead in a game in you. Let Russell Wilson throw the football. He is at his best. You need to let Russell Wilson Cook. Okay Stop. Stop stop running the football as much as you do. Pekar, he was so determined to run the football. They. He decided to go out and sign marshawn. Lynch and Robert Turban. He's so determined to run the football. He went ahead and signed. Carlos Hyde this off season. That is. When I watch Patrick, Mahomes is offense and Russell. Wilson has gone record saying he wants his offense, the look like Patrick Mahomes. You know why Patrick. Mahomes offense is so explosive because Andy redesigned designed the system around a quarterback that he knows is super premium. Talented can make all the throws can extend any play any knows he doesn't need to actually establish the run with Damian. Williams or Or whoever, even though they drafted words a layer in the at the bottom of the first round. I don't think they're going to establish the run with him. I think you'll get a few carries. Every single game of the game actually calls for like twenty carries I'm sure they'll try it and give it to him, but he's going. Be a big pass catcher out of the backfield. When it comes to Seattle you've got this quarterback. Who you could say is just every bit as talented as Patrick Mahomes, maybe not the arm strength, but every bit as talented. And you're running an offense like he's Blake Bortles. When Seattle lost the playoff game to the cowboys a few years ago, it was inexcusable. There was no reason that they should've lost that game when they lost last year to the packers. Did you see the packers against the forty niners? They couldn't even remotely look competitive. You know who did competitive in both meetings with the forty niners of the seahawks. In, how they almost beat them. In their in their final meeting? HOLLISTER got jammed at the goal line. They almost be them then. It's just ridiculous. It is so ridic- and and again I. Do not want to try and sound like I am a P. Kiro Hater I love P. Carol I love the fact. He brought Seattle a super. Bowl I love the defense that he formed I love it, he no, they drafted Russell Wilson. They actually let him compete for the starting job and he wanted. And he has been fantastic since then. But the fact. That they continue. To run these. Old School ancient schemes thinking it's going to work is just wrong. That is not what the NFL is anymore. You cannot play defense anymore. In the NFL inhabit survive especially when you're, players are top of the line players now. They did make a trade for Quinton Dunbar. WHO's a very good cornerback? He wanted the hell out of Washington. Understandable but he has some legal trouble. That's going on at the moment. That doesn't look good. You Trade Verge Davey on cloudy. You can't even sign him. 'cause you tied that money into Jarran Reed and you drastically overpaid Jarran Reed when you could have gone out in the gone a guy like hargrave who went to the eagles I believe was a far better player who I think. They even paid less than Jarran Reed it's just. I think there's I think this team has made a lot of mistakes. I think they've made a Lotta mistakes recently, and I think a lot of it falls on the shoulders of P Carol. And, as we know that, peco, he, he has some strong shoulders as we remember, he got into that a flexing competition with decay metcalf, so we not kill crew. Hold his own here. See Russel Wilson has been saving the Seattle Franchise for the last few years since Max. Unger was traded. Their offensive line has never been the same. It has been terrible. To give people all this is all you need to know about. What Pete Carroll thinks about Russell Wilson in worries about his safety. All you need to know was this. They put a left tackle. Who was a former basketball player out there to protect Russell Wilson. George. Fan Things George Fan. Do was a basketball player. They put them in there at left tackle. And said you. Protect Russell wasn't blinds. I. Mean You can't make this stuff up, man. Just. Now now, Seattle they've made some signings during free agency. When they came the offensive line and get the offensive line, wanted in the grab, which was Jack Conklin didn't even try and trade up in the draft an offense of Lyon this draft so. Again just kinda shows will how they like to work, but I mean they have some interesting offensive Linemen Duane. Brown by all accounts is still playing a decent level last time I checked. So he you know he did get hurt though this last year, and he's getting up there in age with thirty, four, thirty, five most left tackles don't really last that long so i. don't know how much longer dwayne Brown is. GonNa be playing but he kinda has bought Russell Wilson at least some time, so he doesn't have to spend all of the game on his backside, because he just keeps getting knocked down and has no time, but. Eve- even with PECO's resume in all. He has done for Seattle. I think there is a real possibility that the team needs to look at moving on from Pete. And they in that they seriously need to consider. Maybe looking towards the future for a new head coach someone who can maximize Russell Wilson Russell Wilson, if he does not get to another super bowl if he doesn't win one more super bowl. I think that's a serious failure. On the Seattle Franchise and I think that's a failure on Pete Carroll. If. You need to take away his drafting. Say then taking away. I don't know anything. Snyder please take over again full-time 'cause. This is ridiculous. Just. Somebody please protect Russell Wilson I would not blame Russell. Wilson if he demanded the trade from this team, if they if they just continue to just be a one and done playoff team attended six eleven and five playoff team. If that's all, they continue to be I, would have no problem if if Russell Wilson demand of the trade I will go ahead and end the segment on this good morning football segment a couple of days ago where they named quarterback coach Tandems that they believe can win a super bowl if they stick together. So just just tandems which? Any League right now can win the super bowl if they stick together. Or actually to use their wording, which tandems will most definitely when a super bowl if they stick together one person Peter Sugar Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid that he most definitely believes they can win a second super bowl. Another person said Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh, someone said. Bill O'Brien and Shawn Watson which I think was the kind of the joke of the show because that is ridiculous to think. 'cause I've come around to people's thinking that bill. Brian he's just he's just probably not that guy. He can win games buys. Don't think he'll really have the playoff success, and then the last person said. Kyla Murray, Cliff Kingsbury. This was just which tandems in the NFL right now will most certainly win a super bowl. Most definitely won the super. Bowl no-one said Russel Wilson and Pete Carroll. The second best quarterback in the NFL or I best depending on if you like his experience over Patrick Mahomes. No one said he MP Carol. That to me is telling even though one of them, said Bill Bright, some of them, said. Bill O'Brien in the Shawn Watson over Pete. Carroll and Russell Wilson. I rest my case. Anyway, it's coming up next. We're GONNA. Talk about some of these madden ratings that came out and what I think it says about some players in a team coming into this season that next. Are you looking for help with your fantasy football team checkout the GSM see fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on who start who to sit, even who you should draft from sleeper Paixao Red Hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That GMC PODCAST DOT COM, backslash fantasy dash football dash podcast. We'll cover traditionally dynasty few PR even I DP. When you need fantasy help, there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcast dot com for more INFO. Welcome back to the GMC football podcast last segment. We talked about Pete Carroll and how I think at this point in time he is out of date, and that his tenure with the seahawks may need to come to an abrupt but much needed and simply to save Russell Wilson's damn life. Because now he is not only carrying a archaic offense. He is now also carrying the thirty second ranked defensive line in the NFL, so the defense will not be doing anything. Really Pass Rush Wise, and he's going to have to do everything offensively, so that's just simply great anyways. Every single year there's a new man in game that comes out, and as the man in games have gone on especially over the last three or four They're just kind of getting worse they. The movements are getting a lot more clunky because the games trying to make it more realistic and it's just it's created. A bunch of new glitches in the game is not as fun anymore. Overalls in the game in general don't really seem. Seem to mean too much at this point but one thing that NFL players forward to every single year is looking to see what their mattering rating is. Even the ones who say that they don't really care about what it is a lot of them. Do I would say most of them do because they just want to see. How do these game developers think of them? How do how did the critics and everything look at them? and. I think I think I. Always agree with their ranking system like their thing is. They have an exclusive ninety nine club right? Who are the players who get to be in the ninety nine club? And they limited down to five players, and then there's a bunch of other players who kind of fall into like the ninety eight ninety seven range. I don't necessarily see what the huge differences between. Between the two when you play the game, if you especially played as much as I, do you see there's not really a difference and oftentimes we'll have kind of come to realize is that these overalls don't really mean crap? They really don't mean crap. You just got to figure out how to actually play the game and how to manipulate things, and you can kinda do it with anybody. But one thing I did think that is insanely. Disrespectful, and just so over the top, so Robert Rob Gronkowski just recently came back to the NFL. He had retired a season ago. He didn't play at all last year and his citing his reasons for why it was basically the pain he was in. He woke up every day in pain. It was hard for him to sleep and he actually had a very emotional speech that kind of went viral in which he talked about it, and he said that he he just didn't have joy for the game anymore because he was always in pain. It's became an advocate for things like CBD because he's. A doing CBD products really helped the pain go away and really helped him be able to sleep, and he would come back to the NFL. If and only if they legalized weed or at least cbd in the NFL now obviously, since then the NFL has legalized marijuana, they are no longer testing for. This is something that was very very overdue because there are worse drugs to worry about than marijuana. But they legalize it, so that was one thing that opened the door for rob to come back, but then also Tom, Brady went to Tampa Bay and he basically convinced Rob Gronkowski Hey. Come to Tampa I got two years left I'm sure we can get. You would trade here frigging overman. Let's play. And he joined, and he joins a basically now. He's part of a tight end trio between him. Cameron break and OJ Howard now. It's really crazy. With, let's just go the top ten at tight ends in Madden Twenty one, and I think you'll get a kick out of this so and number one of course they have George Kindle and number two. It's Travis Kelsey. They have a ninety eight and a ninety seven over overall respectively. Now you can go back and forth on this I think George. Kill mainly got the nod because he's a better blocker then Travis Kelsey, but other than that. When it comes to the twos receiving abilities all around I mean they're both great tight ends, but so you have George Kindle at a ninety eight and then Travis Kelsey ninety seven. Now behind those two in third place. It is not Zach Ertz. It is not Austin Hooper. It's not Mark Andrews. It's not daring waller. It's Rob Gronkowski with a ninety five. The his his last season. He played. He finished a pro football focus grade of a seventy three. which was by far the lowest in his career? Ever. Not even his rookie grade was like an eighty six. And then after that he didn't have a grade below ninety, that was the lowest grade of his career. He didn't look formidable at all. He had spots. But he did not look like he didn't really look like an NFL. Tight end anymore. He looked to be broken down. He didn't look like the same player, and now in the season in which he's coming back. To probably be if anything, a locker. And they red zone threat. They gave him a ninety five. Behind Him Zach Ertz, who has a ninety? And then it's Austin Hooper Evan Ingram Jared Cook Mark Andrews Greg Olsen Darren lawlor. those are your top. Ten tight ends, only four of the ten have overalls in the nineties. I don't know why Evan Ingram's is so high. I don't really know Greg Olsen so high. He can barely stay healthy waller's. It should not be that low. Rob. GRONKOWSKI's should not be that high here. LemMe name to you. Some notable players that his rating is better than. Lamar Jackson. Jalen Ramsey. Quentin Nelson. myles, Garrett. Chris Jones. I mean this respect is just ridiculous. All of those players are far in the way better than Rob Gronkowski. Another player that I got really really disrespected in this game was denise hunter. He had an eighty nine. He couldn't even crack ninety. He is one of the best edge rushers in the league and has been when he actually gets to get on the field because for the first. Season and a half or so of his career he could really couldn't see the field much of for whatever reason Mike. Zimmer just wouldn't really put them on. But since then he has become a starter, and he is an absolute force off the edge. They gave him in eighty nine I thought that was ridiculous. Here's our. Here's a rating. I thought that was that was solid until I saw who was behind him Josh Allen, had a seventy seven. I kind of looked at that rating and I said Yeah. No I mean that sounds kind of about right. I put them around there, but then I saw that that was over. Guys like Jared Goff. And Andy Dalton Jameis Winston. And Tell Rod Taylor who I think among all starting quarterbacks. This is just so disrespectful. They gave him a sixty nine. For his writing. That in any in any man game in any madden game, ever that would be, you cannot play. That would that would mean. You're not a starter. You cannot play. That is so unbelievably true and one thing. I always I always kind of out of myself is. I wouldn't be the guy who just throws out stats because I'm not really a stat dude, I do a lot of things by test I do a lot of things. I just when I watched the game, you can see who can play in who can't. So I'm not really that big on stats, but I do love pro football focus and I do love paying attention to their grades because I like to see what they point out certain players, and why they think certain players are good why they think certain players are bad. What deficiencies they see whether the strong points. Here's how they graded Taylor in his three seasons with the buffalo bills. Who couldn't wait to get rid of him? In his first season there twenty fifteen he was ranked the ninth best quarterback. His second season there he was ranked the fifteenth best quarterback, and in his third season there he was ranked the ninth best quarterback. And the this madden game has given him a sixty nine. Those people that believe with how bad the rivers played last year. They should have just put Taylor in. You know. What would be the worst thing that could happen? You just lose. Because Philip rivers wasn't doing anything he was. The turnover. Machine is one thing that Taylor has never been in his career. For them to give him a rating of sixty nine. When this guy has never finished worse than the fifteenth, best quarterback in the NFL I think is. An absolute slight, and there are many players who will tell you that they don't really care about what they're mad. Rating is a lot of them. Do I think a lot of the guys who say they don't care they at least find it disrespectful when the rating is so bad, I know lady mbelle. He hated his rating and he tweeted at the Madden. People don't even update my rating throughout the season I want you to keep it there. Keep that disrespect other players saying where they think they should be where they think other players should be so on and so forth it's just it's really fun to watch to kind of see the engagement between the game and the players in the game. So I bring all this up because the chargers coming into the season are going to be in a new stadium. And with them coming into a new stadium. They need to sell tickets. What a year! For them to need to sell tickets in this new stadium right in a season in which there's probably going to be no frick. Fans the chargers are again, not really going to have any such thing as a home game. They even said that last season the season prior that they didn't really feel like they any home games because even at their home stadium there were more fans of the opposing team. Then there's so they get this new stadium selfies stadium for a billion dollar. Stadium. It looks beautiful. And one thing that was really big about. It is a one thing that was a pressing issue. was they needed to sell tickets? Can you sell tickets with Philip Rivers at this stage of his career, probably not especially after what he did last year. Can you sell tickets with Justin Herbert? Probably not that's not Jonesboro. He's not. He doesn't have necessarily that name. He was the third quarterback in this draft. Not many people necessarily care about the third quarterback in the draft. It's used about one who's to most of the time. It's about WHO's one. Can you sell it with? Tara Taylor probably not not the not he's fine. He's a good quarterback, but can you not really? Could you sell it with Cam Newton? Probably. Cam Newton box office. He has personality personified. He is so much fun to watch. Why wouldn't they go and grab him? They had a chance to, and they passed the it now. Anthony Lynn has said that capture nick is a guy who's on their workout list. The problem is you can't work. Anybody out, so Kapernick is on this on this, said workout list, and the thing is. They can't even really see him, so I'm not sure how it's GonNa work out. You have a bunch of people saying they really WanNa see nick in the in the league this season. I'm just not sure if it's going to happen because of Covid, but they had a chance to grab Cam Newton. He was supposed to work out videos all the time. You could have talked to them anything like that I. Don't know if they did, but you had a chance to grab him and you didn't. He's now in new. England. But pro football focus posted an article about Taylor. Talking not only about his grades with the Buffalo Bills but the thing of that while he's not the passer that someone like a Russell Wilson like a pageant while he's not your true passer. He is any leads athlete from his shuttle from his shovel speed. His forty are jet dash has cone drills. He can move he. He is an absolute elite athletes. They highlight a few plays of his. He had a crazy run against the buffalo bills a few a few seasons ago, when the Shawn McCoy was still there running back. which by the way can we just talk about his personnel? While he was even with Buffalo, so his really his only receiver was who was was Sammy Watkins? who was in and out of the lineup because he could not stay healthy to save his life, they at one point gave him overweight. Kelvin Benjamin, that was funny. They gave him basically a giant tight end that wide receiver. He had a good tight end Charles Clay, but not anything necessarily hit home about he had a solid offensive line. Little Shawn McCoy was still a good running back at that point, but I mean. Who Else did they have? They had a. they had a defense that some of defense at that point, but they didn't really have any of the other pieces and this team couldn't fricken waits. To get him out of town, they had EJ manual. He beat out EJ manual because they gave up on him, but then all of a sudden like they couldn't wait to get Taylor out because he just wasn't exactly what they wanted to use. The PRO football focus highlights. What Taylor can do in what he can do is he can provide you with a very mobile quarterback who you can essentially do run a system like the Ravens now does he have Lamar Jackson speed? No doesn't necessarily have his wiggle probably not. But can you run read options with him? Can you call quarterback runs? Can you do some moving pockets with him? Do some play actions things like that? What Taylor absolutely? I've seen Taylor play plenty of games. He's not a bad quarterback. He's not a bum, I. Think the thing if anything that would erode people is just that he's not the refined the passer. He's not the accurate passer of a Russell Wilson of a Patrick Mahomes. He's not the guy who's going to air the ball out fifty four yards downfield for. Completion, he can do it, but that's not necessarily his game. In this is that thing. That thing I talked about with Pete Carroll in Russell Wilson, it's building a system around your quarterback and what they do well Andy Reid built a system around the homes. The Eagles bill a system around Carson Wentz The chargers if they build a system around Taylor. I believe that they can really do some things. Especially, because can we just look at their weapons? So they franchise tag? Hunter Henry was a good tight end. He's been struggling to stay healthy, but he's a good. He's a great tight end when he's when he's healthy and on the field, he grades to be an elite tight end. They have on the franchise tag. They have keen announced still. They have Mike Williams. Who again a guy who's kind of struggled down the field, but he's a solid receiver. They have a relatively good offensive line there running back. Situation is really good with Ecuador and Justin. Jackson I believe who are both who have both by pro football focus greater to be good receivers. I talked about Austin neck where my last podcast great as the best receiving back in the NFL I think his play style is something that really suits Taylor. Because not only can you run, but he can be a great. Outlet Pass, he can be a great check down. Because then he can make some guys miss, and he is elite with the ball in his hands, and then their defense from a roster standpoint. The charges have one of the best rosters in the NFL have we seen their secondary Casey Hayward Desmond King. Chris Harris Junior. And they have another corner. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but they have another quarter there. At Safety Derwin. James at pass rush. You have no Melvin, Ingram and Joey Bosa. Are you kidding me. This team. From a roster standpoint is top ten in the league. All Taylor has to do is not turned the football over the way. Philip rivers did all Taylor has to be able to do is just use his feet converts key third downs converse some key fourth downs. Keep the defense honest. Keep it on its heels if they embraced Taylor the way that the ravens embraced. Lamar Jackson, if they embrace Taylor, the way that the niners had embraced. CAPPER NICK If they can even embrace him the way buffalo has embraced Josh Allen to run the football. I don't see why. The chargers can't be a playoff team I. don't see why they can't be a force in the AFC now. Will they beat the chiefs probably not. I don't know how many teams can't beat the chiefs. But can they at least upset teams in the playoffs? Could they make a run to? At least maybe the conference game or the championship game? Maybe I think giving Taylor rating of sixty nine was completely and utterly disrespectful, because he has never ever in his career been that bad. I'm not saying that they're going to go thirteen and three or twelve and four, and ever going to be you know the second best team in the AFC. Anthony like that. That's not what I'm saying, but can they be respectful for respectable? Can they at least knock off team? Can They win a playoff game if they embrace Taylor the way no team has embraced him yet. Absolutely. I do not doubt that for a second. If you remember the Ravens, they actually offered him a contract to stay with them as a backup. And he decided not to stay there because he wanted the chance to star, and they were not going to start him over flacco, but the thought was that they believed in Taylor. They liked him and they still weren't really sure about FLACCO. He hasn't really produced until that Super Bowl run obviously, and even then during the regular season he wasn't spectacular, but he had never really produced until that playoff run, and so they felt like they had to pay him, but they tried to keep Taylor. that. That does tell you something. If. They embrace him. I firmly believe the chargers can absolutely be a playoff team and can at least win a game or two in the playoffs. Coming up next. The NFL has some things to worry about other than just the coronavirus. Talk about that and stay to my final topic of the day. I'm going to give you guys. My top ten underrated players in the NFL currently that coming later. Check out the show that's built on the. From UFC two extreme cage fighting, but they got the fights covered. Check out the GSM. SEE 'EM A podcast. Get the latest news on past or coming fights. Join us as we talked to. In about some of the biggest names in the enemy past present and future when it's the fight game. There's just one show to check out GMC. PODCASTS DOT. Com backslash Ami Dash podcast. Don't forget on facebook and follow them on twitter visit gs see podcasts dot com for more INFO. Welcome to the GMC football podcast last segment. We talked a little bit about some madden ratings in general I think that Madden's rating system is just whack whether I think it says about some certain players how I feel like it does not add up to actually how some of these players graded out via something like pro football focus does overall my kind of viewpoint on that a little bit more fun topic I, know not everybody plays the Madden Games are at least not anymore, but I am still an avid player of and. While I did not play the newest one, not the one with the Mark Jackson, whatever the last one was a man in twenty with with Patrick Mahomes on it. I never play it I stayed on the one before it but I am getting the newest one. They don't WanNa. See how that one works out but by all accountable I've heard it is essentially a carbon, a copy and paste game of literally the last one, and it actually might even be a little bit worse, so yeah, probably just wasted sixty dollars, but anyways. So the NFL in the NFL PA have come to an agreement to a few different things so one that players will be getting tested daily for Corona virus. That was one of the things that these players really wanted. The NFL originally was not necessarily looking to do that, but the players were all very very persistent I think I. Did mention that in my last podcast that multiple players over the weekend in basically a coordinated attack. Aimed, a bunch of tweets with the Hash Tag. Play essentially voicing their concerns about the virus, and what the NFL is and is not doing players from Russell Wilson to drew brees the Patrick Mahomes. All these players were coming out and were essentially saying. Hey, we got like our. We've got families to take care of some. People's wives are pregnant. Some of these people have kids already some people they have members of their family who are who have immune. Immune system is compromised and they're like NFL. We need you to do more than what you're doing. An NFL finally came to an agreement on that. They have also agreed with the players that there will be no preseason. The preseason is let's be honest. Awful I do not. I. I have always heard that it only takes you a few practices to really see if player can play I. Do not believe that you need to see in the preseason. Now did I ever play college football? Know that I've ever played the NFL. NOPE, no I, do not! Ever, coach it and no. I did not, but I have just never felt. I've never felt like I, watched something in the preseason in, said Oh man, that guy can play I think the only player maybe I've ever done. That was Dak Prescott. When I watched him going out there playing against the seahawks until he got her, I thought that he looked a bit different I thought he looked a bit more skilled than some other players that I had seen in my life, but nonetheless. I. You know I think it's good. I think. The preseason is a waste of money I think all it does is put players in jeopardy. They're so many players who have gotten hurt. Starters especially who have gotten hurt in the preseason, and then either missed significant time, or they missed a whole season Julian element comes to mind. He tore his ACL preseason game. One time missed the season Odell Beckham Junior. He almost looked like he broke his ankle. During a game, and then he went on into play in in the regular season, and he ended up breaking that same ankle, because it was just already injured, and so he just landed wrong on it again, and that was it for it is just it's just not important, but the NFL. Having to worry about Kobe. Because I've done the math and I talked about a few podcast. For essentially when you, when you do the math of it throughout the season over one hundred thousand people are going to be meeting, and this isn't the bubble situation where. Players are all going to be in one secluded area. These guys are going to be going home now. The NFL, of course there are some ideas that some people have. Maybe they'll fly to and from away games the day of and they won't stay at a hotel to risk catching something there I think that'd be murther on these players, not necessarily the best idea, but on top of worrying about Kovin. which the NFL really does need to navigate correctly because again, if all of a sudden four weeks into the season five weeks into the season, you've got all these star players, if Russell Wilson all of a sudden contracts Kobe if Patrick mahomes contracts Kobe Tom Brady. To, if all these star players are getting the corona virus that is going to cause some of these other players to. To maybe just opt out of the season like not even WanNa risk playing in the NFL might end up needing to shutdown. I've seen some of the things they're trying to implement. Maybe a face mask on the actual mask themselves like a visor that goes over the whole thing not sure exactly how that would work I. Don't know fog up or something like that, but that's one idea they've had in from the reaction I saw not too. Many players are keen on it. But another thing I think the NFL needs to really be worried about in need to navigate correctly is. People like the President Who are anti anyone kneeling during the anthem? Now of course twenty twenty has not only been filled with by this. been riddled with this pandemic with corona virus. This is also there has been so much social change in America and all over the world. Black lives matter protests have not been going on in America. They have been going on everywhere. The UK in China I mean all over the place. George Floyd's death Ahmad are Berry's death Brianna Taylor's death, and so so many more. Their deaths have their murders. Let's put it that way. Really. Their murders have sparked so much conversation in America and all over the world, and it has really forced some of these leagues to come out and make a stand NASCAR car. At first when they said we are standing next to bubble, wallace are only black race car driver. We are banning the confederate flag for good from all of our events, and you know what has happened since then the ratings have only Ghana. Since they did that even with even with as much as their fan base, which is which has been demographically white. And more of more southern. Their ratings have only gone up since they have banned the confederate flag, so they're winning. They're on the right side of history. When when this goes down in history, they will be on the right side of it the the NBA of course. While well have a bit of a problem with the fact that they are limiting what players could put on the back of their jerseys by all accounts. They didn't even talk to the players about it especially Lebron. James with Lebron. James says they didn't even talk him. There's a problem. But nonetheless the NBA will be on the right side of history. The MLB the MLB release a series of tweets. A video of the San Francisco giants, members of the giants that were kneeling during the anthem they tweeted out instead supporting our players and supporting equality is not political. Supporting Human Rights is not political. It has never been about the military or the flag of the players and coaches are using their platforms to peacefully protest. That is wonderful. The MLB will be on the right side of history with this. The NFL especially when it comes to Colin. Kaepernick is already on the wrong side of history. They handled that situation with Colin Kaepernick terribly and. To this day I mean it is going to. It will haunt them forever. That will be a moment in history that will forever haunt them. Because capper knicks his lor, his legend is only growing in two thousand twenty has only helped it grow especially with the NFL coming out and admitting we were wrong. With how we handle these protests in a big reason why it is that they took the stance that they did with the protests is because of how Donald. Trump came out and handle them. Calling the players. SOB's saying they should be fired. Saying people should leave the country if they don't like it always, it's always that right. Leave the country. If you don't like here, you don't like it. Here will then leave the NFL. They already handled that poorly before. Mark Cuban who is the owner of the Dallas Mavericks he had. He was quoted as saying something along the lines of the national anthem. Police are just coming out in waves right now. Especially against him. You know people coming out and they've been posting about you know. Sports are coming back and that's great and I can't wait to see these sports teams come back and play can't wait went. See this team play in this team play, but I swear if I see any of them. Kneeling during the anthem I'm GonNa have a problem on the boycott it. Okay, and a lot of positions that these leagues and these teams are taking. This point is okay. That's fine. Go ahead and do whatever it is you're going to do. We're still going to make money. You're you're? You're not watching us well, not affect us at all. We would rather be on the right side of history than catered to you and your whiny self. Now the NFL think they came out and said that they will they plan to allow. Players to wear and initials on their helmets of people especially anyone who has who has died. WHO's been murdered? It'd be by police, brutality, or whatever it is. I think these. Brianna Taylor as an example over. They didn't necessarily, but there was a point of saying that we're on the Taylor is an example. They could have bt on their helmet which I think that's that's cool, but it is a symbolic thing, right? That's just another symbolic gesture. which is not necessarily what this community wants? It's not what black people are looking for. They don't want symbolic gestures. They want action. But? It is something you know is what the NFL is trying to do. They're trying to be more on the right side of history with this, but Donald Trump a few days ago, tweeted out, and said looking forward to live sports, but anytime I witness a player kneeling during the national anthem, a sign of great disrespect for our country and our flag. The game is over for me. So again he is taking these stands, and this is another attempt to get. His fanbase riled up to get them on his side to get them speaking out a little bit more, and it's whatever you know. This is just what he does, but it's also what he did last year in the NFL strongly caved. Especially because I guess, you could say at that point in time. Maybe the movement, the idea of police brutality was really idea that many people wanted to accept. Yeah, it was more accepted in the black community of because, of course they're the ones who export experiencing it, but a lot of other people in America did not quite see it that way. They didn't quite understand that concept, but. But as the years went on more and more and more incidents office, are they get recorded and getting reported on, and eventually a more people starting to come around, which is why this movement has gotten so strong, because people now understand will call and cabinet was saying was correct, and it was true, and he was just ahead of the curve to actually trying and bring attention to it. But. Here's another thing with the NFL and I think they need to figure this out. They have kind of been leading. NFL, teams decide for themselves. How many fans they want to bring in? I've seen some reports. Some fans who are some stadiums who are planning to allow like fifteen thousand people some. It's like ten thousand. Some are saying like twenty five percent capacity fifteen percent. If fans come in. They have their required were mask. They needed to get their temperature. Take in the NBA. They have said what is going to happen for all the teams. The MLB has said what is going to happen for all the teams. The only thing that the NFL has come out and said is that if any fans were going to be at their dame's, it would be. They would have to the required to wear. Wear a mask so I'm guessing that means all the anti massacres out. There would not go, or they would go with a mask, but then as soon as they get in there, they probably take off, and so I'm kind of wondering. How was that going to go right when the fans and then there are going to be security guards put everywhere to make sure that people are wearing their masks or house is going to go. because. That's a concern. The NFL season this could be catastrophic. Let's put it that way. This could be catastrophic again like I said. Throughout the season. Essentially one hundred thousand people will be meeting in this stadium for three four hours to be around a bunch of people who are sweating and bloody and hurt, and who have been tackling other grown men for an hour on the field. This could be a petri dish. For Disease. This could be a petri dish for corona virus. These players again. They are not in a bubble. Nothing like that. This could be. Major, if this goes wrong, which is why the NFL players were so adamant of they need testing every single day. The NFL cannot do. It was thinking about doing whatever it is. The NFL's plan was or really I guess from the looks of their lack of a plan. They've had so much time to prepare for this. Do people realize the NFL season ended in? February at the end of February early March. They have had all this time to prepare in. The season still hasn't even started yet. The you know who season did get cut short. The NBA's the NBA season halted right towards the end of it. MLB has had to scramble to figure out what on Earth. They were GONNA do for their season. The NFL has been sitting pretty for months in originally, it was they were planning. They were going to start the season. The exact same way, and of course as time has gone on it. We've gotten closer and closer to time for the NFL to comeback. The plans have changed to the point. Where now there's no preseason. Players are now just starting to come into the buildings, but it's not all the players. The roster sizes I think have been cut from ninety two eighty for what you can have during training, camp and everything, so that's GonNa make it even harder for some of these undrafted free agents. These guys who don't have much tape. It's GonNa make it even harder for them to make the teams. But just on top of this coronavirus pandemic that apparently the NFL is has just been really slow to the party on exactly how serious it is, and how much testing does need to go on? While they need to worry about that. I also feel like they need to make sure that they navigate. Any anthem controversy that comes their way. I am sure that that that the president is going to have more to say when the season starts, and as it goes on because i. just have this feeling that he is going to see. Multiple sidelines. With players kneeling during the anthem. Again my solution for it has been. Just put the players back in the locker room. They used to not be out there during the anthem just put the players back in the locker room in just get or even get rid of the anthem at the beginning of these games. It does not need to be played. But I don't think they're gonNA do that. So I think there's a lot of things that that get Dell and these owners and everything they need to they need to. They need to be on their toes. When they make some of these moves in a decisions, they cannot rush these players to not neil. They need to make no statements about it. They need to have their players backs and support their right. To freely and peacefully protest. On top of that. So I think the it's the owner of the New York. Jets he has recently been exposed for having made sexist and racist comments. He this is a side note kind of thing I. Think the NFL. They need to the only thing. I believe that they can do with this guy is remove him from his ownership of the jets I think it's the only thing you can do. Is Inexcusable. The comments that he had supposedly made, and I just feel like. If the NFL wants to take this side wants to take the side of the players and be on the right side of history in a league that is predominantly African American over seventy percent African American. This owner had supposedly made comments on why black the black community with a separate month to celebrate black history, and argued that black fathers didn't remain with their families, and that was the real challenge I mean. That's just one of these supposed comments that he has made. So. He has a watchdog group over right now I strongly believe that they need to remove him from his ownership group of the team, but that is just my opinion. anyways stay tuned the final topic of the day. My top ten underrated players in the NFL. I'll talk a little bit more about that right after the states in. This build around the women of MMA from the UFC two extreme case fighting, we got the fights cover saying it's the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast the latest news of upcoming. Discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to. In about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts. Women's MMA podcast. Made me made me. Welcome to the GMC football podcast final topic of the day in my last segment, I talked a little bit about the NFL and some of the things that they need to worry about coming into the season whether it be covert, related or The anthem police who are just completely and utterly against players kneeling during the national anthem because they refuse to stand that it is not about the anthem, it is about change in America and It is a peaceful protest. What better way to protest than to do it peacefully? Well, you know. They say they don't want their sports to have politics, and so on and so forth it's just it's just ridiculous. I understand it, but it's just. There's a ridiculous position to take when all these players in these leagues have made it very very clear. That is not about the anthem. It is about bringing change to problems. PROBLEMS IN AMERICA NONETHELESS WE'RE GONNA get to my top ten underrated players in the League, so here's is kind of how I tried to do this. Twice is a coincidence three times a pattern. Anyone can just have one season. Sometimes a player can just have two good seasons, but three good seasons especially if they're doing it in a row or in the span of four years or five years. That becomes a pattern. So what I tried to do is I tried to look at players in the NFL, who event in the League for like three years as my minimum, but three years or more, who had sustained? Who have sustained their production throughout their career who have been grading well I did a lot of looking on pro football focus looking at players who were actually eligible, especially from this last season and I was looking at a bunch of players grades. There's a lot of the players who have had you know one season where they were in the eighties, but then the rest of them were like in the sixties or player who has been leaked two years, and the rookie season maybe didn't play, but then the first season they started. They had a great in the eighties. Those kinds of players I wasn't really looking at so we're GONNA. Go from ten to number one. And I feel like some good. There's a lot of the players that could do. Let me be very very honest. There's a lot of the players I could have put on this list. It's very very difficult to make a list like this, but I did to the best of my abilities in what I perceive as being underrated again member, it is just it's all subjective. These lists are all subjective. Some people would agree with some guy on this list. Some people wouldn't anyways and number ten. I Have Dion Jones. who was the Middle Linebacker of the Atlanta Falcons now he fits today's NFL game more than more than your average linebacker. One of the criticisms of Seattle their top draft. Pick this last season or this this past the NFL draft was a linebacker who isn't really looked at it. As a guy, he's looked at as an old school. Linebacker not fast enough doesn't really cover well. Some people have countered back at that saying it's a bit overblown but Dion Jones is exactly what you want at a linebacking position. He's good enough against the run. He's good enough against. He's Ille- against the pass. He's one of the quickest linebacker if not the quickest linebacker in. In the NFL currently, he missed his third. He missed a good portion of his third year with an injury, but came back this last year off of injury to become the the tenth grade linebacker in the NFL his highest grade was the second year, which was eighty seven point eight eight I believe he can get back to that form. He's never had a great below seventy again more of a coverage linebacker. Some guys want their guys to be really really good against the run and to be more physical, but he's a hard hitting. He's a hard hitting linebacker while he might not be the greatest against the run. You can put him on a tight end. You can put them on your running back and he can absolutely cover them down the field. He has the speed for it and four seasons again. He's never had a great below seventy. He just doesn't really get the recognition because he plays in Atlanta and since Atlanta Super Bowl Year they have been in obscurity. They don't get talked about anymore. And there's just nothing really interesting about them. So I have Dion Jones at number, ten and number nine I have Brandon Linder. Who is the center of the Jacksonville Jaguars? Now he's. He was a third round pick few seasons. Seasons ago, he has never been to a pro bowl or made an all pro team, but in his last four years he has grades from pro football focus of eighty, one eighty to seventy, nine, hundred and seventy five, so this last season wasn't exactly his best, but in the last four seasons he has allowed a total of three sacks in his last four seasons. He has an eighty plus pass blocking grade each of those seasons. He doesn't get penalized. A whole lot of this last season was kind of was his roughest one of the last four years. It was as most penalize your, but other than that. This guy gets penalized maybe two times a year. He's not a very penalized player. He is he is a decent run. Blocker has its run blocking grades in the Seventies. He is the anchor of the Jacksonville. Jaguars, line and a team, and that is in an influx right now and doesn't really have any consistency. He has been one of the most consistent players for this team, and he really should be garden. Choose best friend because he is. He's keeping them upright. He's not allowing. Doesn't really allow pressures. He is a good player. He does not get any recognition because he plays in Jacksonville and other than the Saxon Ville year. Who Talks about the JAGS? So I have him at number nine and number eight I have Rodney Hudson. Who was the center of the Raiders? Now was doing this list I was noticing. There's a lot of really good offensive linemen that we just don't hear about ever and so again this this was really really difficult to make but I narrowed it down to again. It's you can mix and match these guys. There's some guys you can take a take out and put in it. All just depends on how you feel, but what Ronnie Hudson this is crazy, so this guy came into the in two thousand and eleven. He has been an. Insanely, his worst year was his rookie year as most players are. His worst year was his rookie year since his rookie year, his grades have consistently been in the seventies and eighties and the seventies and eighties. But so get this right so his pass blocking grades since twenty thirteen have been no lower than eighty, and since two thousand fifteen, they have been no lower than eighty nine. He's not the best run blocker in the league. He is significantly better at pass blocking than run blocking this last year. especially his run blocking was not what it once was. It was actually even worse. It seemed than his usual, but his pass blocking grades were still up there. I think he actually may have finished as the highest past with the highest pass blocking grade amongst all centers. He doesn't get penalize often those a very shortlist of centers over him. Since twenty fourteen. He has allowed only four sacks. No one talks about the raiders. Really the most interesting thing about the raiders is if anything is Jon Gruden. And there's only so much you can really talk about that. And what's going to happen with Derek Carr? No one's really talked about the raiders since their cars one MVP campaign near a couple of seasons ago, and since then the raiders have been back to being the raiders drafting high in the draft going into the season. With a lot of hype and saying maybe this is the year for the raiders, and then they just Kinda. Go out there and stink it up. Now they are back when not not back now they're in Vegas. This is a big year and husband. Thirty one years old. He has been and the mark of consistency in a franchise that has been consistently bad. But Hey. You know he's a leader on team. Extreme consistent one of the best pass. blockers bass blocking centers in the League. Any Hall of fame votes because he just hasn't been voted to. The pro bowl hasn't been voted the first team. All pros are all pros in general the way other players do of just because they're more popular, but Rodney Hudson is an absolute stud and has been essentially sense. He came into the League. And number seven Allen Robinson now. I feel so bad for Allen Robinson. Do people realize he was quarterback in his career? Blake Bortles and Mitch Trubisky. How how upsetting, does that have to be now? His best year by far was his two thousand fifteen year his second year, in which he he was tied for the lead league in cuts down catches. Will I believe fourteen or fifteen? He had fifteen hundred yards receiving. He was an absolute monster and showed everybody whether it could be. That was the one. One season which whiteboard holes looked like somewhat of an NFL quarterback, and of course, since then he didn't really look like one at all. Unless you want to count the Saxon bill year, but they also did that without Allen Robinson, and then he got shipped to the bears and his grades. What the bears over the last two years have been seventy seven. Seventy seven point seven and eighty point eight. He. His highest grade was fifteen year, which was eighty four. He's one of the best when it comes to contested catches. He's top five when it comes to. Contested catch rates because he's a big bodied receiver. He's six three. Two hundred eleven, pounds or something like that. Runs a four six, not the fastest in the world, but has freakish athleticism. He has shown where he can just do with poor quarterbacks. Can you imagine what this guy could do if you just gave him somebody else? I'm really hoping that Nick foles. Wins the starting job with the bears because we all WanNa. See What Ellen Robinson can do with a competent quarterback. He has never had one in his career. and He. Deandre Hopkins. Remember how many quarterbacks Hopkins worked with, and he was putting up those freakish numbers Allen Robinson for the quarterbacks he's been given has pulled up pretty decent numbers, and I believe they could be even more if you just gave him somebody who could remotely throw the ball accurately to him. So I've Allen Robinson at number seven. And number six Anthony Costanzo. Now he's been in the league since two thousand eleven as well like Rodney Hudson, his lowest grade was his rookie year, which was a sixty eight point nine, since then his greatest never dip below six three of the last six years. He's been a top. He's been graded as a top ten tackle. Four of his last six years, his grades were in the eighties, and he's never made a pro bowl and he's never made an all pro. He, this guy has had years where he has been graded as the fifth best tackle in the League or the six best tackle in the league. He's never made a single pro bowl, and he plays for the colts, and what has been one of the narratives about the colts, especially during Andrew Luck tenure that his offensive line was terrible, they had no good players on it. Well, that wasn't true. Anthony Costanzo has been a great player for the colts in. There's a reason why they pay them now. He mold retirement recently, but he decided to keep playing. He's thirty one years old. and. I mean you what he has done throughout his career. How consistent he has been, and he only now recently has really been talked about. Other than that the only times anyone that really mentioned him was when they mentioned the entire offense of line in just how bad it was! You know I'm not sitting here. Saying that Anthony Costanzo was Trent Williams or was. Joe Staley or or Dwayne Brown I'm not saying he was one of these other high profile tackles. I'm not saying that, but what I am saying is that. Though his, though he does give up quite a few sacks, though he doesn't necessarily give you ee like ninety plus grades or anything like that he does give you great production, and he is a solid pass blocking tackle. WHO gives you a? Who gives you above average play every single season of his career, so I got Anthony, Costanzo at number six. And number five. I've got Marcus Williams. He was the second round. Pick and most people know Marcus Williams for his big blunder, which was the Minnesota Miracle in which Stefan Digs, call the ball deep down the field. All Marcus Williams had to do was away I digs to land, and then literally just grab him stop his forward progress. That is all he had to do, but instead he decided to try and take out digs at. At the legs any missed him, and he took out his teammate, and that led to the Minnesota Miracle, which many people believe completely shot, the Saints Heart in that was their best season to get to the super bowl, and he ruined it, and so there are a lot of saints fans that hold that against Marcus. Williams and they bring up. I remember I. was reading some stuff about how? Talking about potential trade candidates for the saints, and there were so many fans. Take Marcus Williams Marcus Williams. Do people realize this guy has been one of the best safety since he entered the League? As a rookie, he had a great of eighty nine. Now of course coming off of that year, he had a seventy one. Maybe you could say. It was a hangover from his blunder the season before maybe hungover. Maybe he second guessed himself whatever it might have been, but last year he was the fourth best safety in the League. He's twenty three years old. He's. He's a young young man. He's twenty three years old and he's already given you ille- production. He's never made the proble. He's never made an all pro team I think he made. The rookie team, but I mean that's not. That's nothing really the. To Geek over. Whether it be against the run or in coverage. He is a league in both areas. He is just an all around great safety. The Saints Really Nailed that draft when they drafted he and Lattimore and Kamera in Ram check draft all these great players who have been. Outstanding for them. Marcus Williams. He had the one blunder. Yes, but. Man People need to put respect on this guy's name. He can absolutely play his off in has since he entered the league. He made one mistake guys. GotTa get over after the season. He's going to be eligible for an extension I'm interested to see if the saints do extent him or does. This guy hit the free agent market because I'm sure that he will get big money from somebody and number three. I have the Neil Hunter now. The Neil Hunter though he's made pro bowls in the last two years as well as a second team, all pro. He was a third round pick. In. This is what's really fascinating. This is of the reason why I wanted to put him on this list. In Twenty Sixteen, he finished the season with twelve and a half sacks. He didn't start a single game. For the Vikings. Sixteen Games. He didn't start a single one. In yet, he finished with twelve and a half sacks. Since that season, he has become a full time starter the team, his his sack numbers have gone seven fourteen and a half fourteen and a half. He's not much of a run of a run-defender. That's not necessarily his strong suit. His strong suit is rushing the passer though he is passable as a run defender. He has his spots. He's had some some decent season. Some seasons of take below average at run defending, but his overall grades have never been below seventy and. And in four of his five seasons, he's had a grade of seventy seven plus madden very much disrespected this man when they gave him an eighty nine overall, he is easily won the most consistent pass rushers in the League, and I believe he should have at least Benny Ninety, if anything this man, he has all the production in the world. He has all the talent in the world, and he just doesn't really get the recognition and I don't quite understand. It is because he he plays Minnesota I don't really know. And number three I have Ryan Ramczyk. He was the thirty second overall pick in two thousand seventeen, so every single team had a chance to draft this man. The saints did any started immediately. Here is how he has ranked in his first three seasons as an NFL offensive lineman. This is crazy. This guy has already on track to being. To being a hall of fame tackle this kind of a start to his career. If he can keep this up in stay healthy, this is crazy. He has been graded as the sixth best his rookie year, the eighth best his second year, and he was the best tackle graded last year by pro football focus. He has never made a pro bowl. But he has gone respect from NFL writers from I guess you'd say the important people. He has made second and first team all pro, but the fact that the the pro bowl is a popularity contest. Who is one of the pounds? He brothers who plays for Pittsburgh. Has Consistently I've seen the tooth from pro football focus of people who work there. The the of the pound brothers, whoever plays over there in with the steelers has not really been great, if a center over the last few years, but he consistently gets into the pro bowl because he's popular. How I mean he, he would be on the overrated list. Ryan Ramczyk is one of the best young tackles. He's one of the best football players in the league right now any show he's very versatile to and yet he has never made available. That is insane to me. That is the definition of popularity. There's people out there who don't respect the pro bowl because of the people who don't make it, who clearly deserve it. Because they say oh, it's just a popular contest. It doesn't mean anything US have to have fans. That's all you have to do that fans. Apparently Ryan Ramczyk has no fans. The fact that this man has not made a pro bowl yet and he's been a first team all pro. That doesn't make any sense, so have Ryan Ramczyk at number three. And number two I have anthony. Harris Safety for the Vikings. This man was undrafted. Let's just go with his grades over the last three seasons a seventy five. In eighty nine, which was third best in the league. And a ninety one this past season, which was the best. The highest grade given to any NFL safety. This man has never made a pro bowl. He has never made an all pro. The Vikings went ahead and franchise tag him. And he signed his tagging everything little have him this season? I think under for eleven million dollars. If they do not resign this guy, there is no way in hell. Another team does not throw a wad of money at him. Why Andrew Sanday. Who was starting over him I have no clue was battling injuries. What was it? I mean Mike Zimmer has shown though you just look at the new hunter like I, said he on the same team as Anthony. Here's neo hunter. On the season when he had twelve and a half sacks, he didn't start a single game. Mike Zimmer at least has shown these very slow, the star, some of these guys, but now that he has given Anthony Harris the starring role. He Shining, he is outstanding when it comes to coverage. He was tied for the League lead in interceptions this past season. The guy is an absolute stud was undrafted. This is a guy who works hard who studies and who is on his way to getting a massive pay day from a team whether it be from the Vikings, or whether it be from somebody else who knows. And that number one. Drum roll please. Okay, there's no general a Russell Wilson. I. Am unapologetic when I say this. Is Russell Wilson. One hundred percent. I tried to keep quarterbacks off this list I did. I simply cannot not. Put Russell Wilson on this list. He has never had an MVP vote in his career. He is the second best quarterback in the NFL in some people's eyes. The first best because they just like his experience over Patrick Mahomes. Man has never had an MVP. There are still people out there that claim. Russell Wilson needs a run game. To be good. I know for a fact. That he does not. Twenty. Sixteen proved that to me. He does not need a run game. He doesn't even need a top half of the League offensive line, and he's still one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL since he entered the league. Russell Wilson has been dominant when it comes to his grades when it comes to fourth quarter comebacks whether it be, he's playing from behind or playing with a lead crunch time two minute big throws deep accuracy whatever it may be scrambling. It doesn't matter Russell Wilson. Is the thing that is keeping the seahawks afloat right now. The seahawks are in such an influx they. Their ownership group doesn't actually want team since Paul Allen died. You know they they want to sell the team. Carol is running an archaic offense over there and they are like anti. Let Russell Wilson throw the football. It is ridiculous. But until Russell Wilson gets a single MVP vote the most underrated player in the league and I am unapologetic when they say so. Until he has won MVP vote. He is the most underrated player. In League. I know there's some people who are probably very upset with that and we're hoping for something a bit more climactic. But I'm sorry. I'm sorry I can't. I can't give it to Russell. You look at his resume. You look at everything he's. He has done in his career. And then you ask yourself how? Tell me. How does he not have an MVP vote? That doesn't make any sense. Why guess other than maybe the maybe the end of that list, pretty good show. Talked about a lot. got a lot more to cover. AM My next podcast. I look forward to doing that. Thank you for listening to the GMC football podcast GMC podcast network I would like to ask that you please remember to subscribe to the show and rather than review that really helps us out also if you can, please follow us on facebook, twitter and instagram. Thank you. And have a good night you've been listening to the golden state media concepts football podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot Jesus MC. PODCASTS DOT COM download our podcast on itunes. Stitcher soundcloud and. Just type in. 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Browns criticism, Will Seattle sign Antonio Brown?, Nick's NFL Tiers, Clais Campbell joins the show

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Browns criticism, Will Seattle sign Antonio Brown?, Nick's NFL Tiers, Clais Campbell joins the show

"Good morning everyone while first things first, I'm John Wolf alongside Nick Right Brandon Marshall Kevin. Wild and just have to say before we start this morning we as a team have been really good about predicting things the last couple of weeks months years whatever you're all over Clayton Kershaw Brandon Hugh said the steelers we're going to be great outta the gate wilds that Blazer looks fantastic on you buddy and I have been on the Cleveland, Browns Long Time, and that is where we started this morning because I think all of our. Might be coming true. Let's talk about the dysfunction sort of as some would say, that is the Cleveland browns. They are a highly talented team. Yeah. Early, also a highly critiqued team, but big personalities lead to big storylines in this team appears to have both browns reeling after a brutal loss to the steelers on Sunday Baker Odell. The rest of the offensive starters all pulled as soon as that game got. OUTTA. Hand yesterday a very stoic Baker Mayfield was asked about all the criticism in. Cleveland take a listen. I don't give a damn what they say. Within this building we know can be better I know it can be better and that's how it's going to be. Outside noise doesn't matter. They get paid to talk. We get paid to do our work. So that sounds good. Brandon. So when it comes to the Browns, there's a lot of stars on this team, and because of that, they get a lot of tension or the browns would you say criticize too much or not? Enough? Say that the browns are criticized too little. You gotta think about this. When's the last time we talked about the Jacksonville, Jaguars like why? Why don't we talk about the Jacksonville Jacksonville Jaguars because they don't do anything they haven't earned it. That's the only reason why the Cleveland browns are even part of a discussion is because of who they have now this year, they have earned a little bit of. Airtime. It off for one I how they did that in a very long time last time they had a winning season was in two, thousand and seven. So I think they're criticized too little This team needs to earn it. There's a lot of organizations out there. It's been suffering for a long time. They're one of them and I don't think you deserve to have. Any. Type. Of Airtime. Nick. Brandon, there's only seven teams in the whole league that have a better record than Cleveland. Seven. There's From the AFC that of a better record than them, unfortunately, two of them are in their division and that to their two losses against I, I am on the totally opposite side of this. I think this year the browns have been criticizing critiqued and broken down far too much. I understood the criticism last year when folks were saying that they be dark or super bowl contender and Baker was. Kind of talking out of both sides of his mouth and they fell flat on their face bakers done everything off the field this year his critics asked him to do. He is not given any soundbites. We asked him last year not to care about the outside noise. He literally just said yesterday I don't care about the outside noise and nobody was picking them to go to the Super Bowl. So foreign to is not like they've underachieved. So I I feel like there's there are some. People that don't like Baker and don't like Odell and so what we'll do is they get their teeth kicked him by the Ravens in week one and we'll pretend like we don't know the Ravens are going to be awesome and we'll break them down about it. Then they win every football game they play for a month and they don't show up on the show then they beat down by another great team and we're finding away to pick Adam like they're not the jags therefore joe the. Off, team, who are they? Who are they? Win Bad team. Yeah. They're they're a good team that's not a super bowl contender. Is what I think that was. No. Me For for for for me is just a lot at this point why? Because it's a roller coaster in nfl you can't. You can't be on a roller coaster look at the Patriots and look at. Cam Newton they get beat by the Denver Broncos and what the Cam Newton come in and say in this next press conference look man sometimes it rains sometimes it pours I'm bringing my umbrella and I'm GONNA come to work with these guys. It's like I don't care about this. I don't care about that. Why don't you just come and say look we're just here to play ball and be done with it. That's what. Saying. He's asked about the willies what do you want him to say? I'm talking about the organization as a whole for Baker Mayfield we're specifically talking about Baker for me. It's about just getting your job done. There's no, there's only. Bags in a failed thrown multiple multiple interceptions it in the last three years. Here's Jayme is Winston and Philip Rivers, and then there's Baker Mayfield. So for me when I'm talking about Baker mind off the field stuff I, don't mind the commercials. The thing for me is get your job done. That's what I want. Odell. That's a whole nother topic and I know we can dive into that little bit later. But this Cleveland browns organization, you're not a winner, you have not one. Ran and let's dive into it right now Odell like Baker. steelers game. He also chimed in on the critics yesterday critics who didn't like that Oh Delta cashews off on the sideline after he was pulled he was also yelling at fans take a listen to what Odell had to say about it. And at this one, I really don't care and keep trying to make make myself look like a good guy into the world. I am lamb I got pulled out of the game coach said, this is the best decision who know we're GONNA. It's eight minutes left infamy. I'd rather take my command. I'd rather take my win the same way I WANNA be out there too the last whistle competing. Kind of over. You know trying to play the right thing because. I. Love Him to death with people who? Have Plenty of rings and considered the gold and they. Do things on the sideline and other people do things on the sideline and they get away with it and classified as passionate because. They're and they may have Something behind the legacy or whatever it is of me or we love the much much. You Know Brandon to your point. Maybe Odell doesn't have to come out and a lewd comments about the Tom Brady the greatest ever played the game. Maybe he could just stop before he got Brady Papa. What was your reaction to what Odell had to say? I mean, he's right when he talks about the go in there being a double standard. That's that's definitely true. But the reality when it comes to Odell is there is some there are some emotional issues there and I wanNA use my personal story to kind of highlight what I'm talking about I see a guy that is conflicted I see guy and I played with Odell. Think he's probably the greatest athlete I've ever been around. He was fun to be around every single day in the locker room, but he's conflicted because he's an emotional guy and for me here my story is this I, knew that the things that made me great also made me weak but it took me five years to understand that I was on the campus of McLean hospital and outpatient program taken. Dialectical behavior therapy mental mineralisation therapy self-assessment called behavioral therapy to learn how to cope manage different emotions. So for Odell I think when he realizes that the emotion that he feels that makes him great that makes him probably one of the most prolific pass catcher that the NFL has ever seen also hold him down the also a hindrance to his chase to greatness. That's what we're going to see the best. Always thought this when we were playing in New York I was like man this guy can eliminate eliminate some of the distractions that he caused him on his own self. How much better can he be I would like to see Odell go to the whole new level. He is progressing Odell when you look at look at the sideline antics he so much better than where he was but. I don't want to hear him say well, I don't care about this I. Don't just come in and just do what you need to do. Odell is someone super passionate about football he knows who he is, but he's trying to figure out how does this fit within a team within this world and I think once he figured that out, he'll go to a whole new level him be fine. Look, I'll take you behind the curtain a little bit when we saw this video of Odell walking around with his socks or shoes off I was like, Hey, should we do this story in Brandon in the meeting a few days ago was like now those cleats are super uncomfortable I take mine. It's a non story so in that's why we didn't do. We didn't make a big deal of it now unfortunately, everyone in the media doesn't have a brandon marshal on their pre. Show calls to be like, don't do this story so I think there's a lack of knowledge from the media because. Like. Hey. If everyone. Had you brandon? Feel like the old dial of hysteria would be tamped down. Wild I think you're being too generous. Folks don't like him so they pick on him. I'd love to talk to someone who played with him. Who knows him like I do that says Oh Dell's a bad guy. But every teammate of his we've ever talked to has gone from great teammate passionate about winning all the way to I. Literally let him Babysit my infant child. So we just ignore that and we're like. You know what? We don't like it and as I predicted on Monday. Aaron Rodgers is to get more of a pass for the pump celebration in a loss where they get dog walks. Then Odell is going to get for taking his cleats off after the game has been decided and he's been taken out of the game because we're just not fair about this stuff baker just gave a quote exactly like we demanded he give all your last year and the question is, why don't we criticize them more? Well, I don't know because they've the eighth best record in the NFL and they're actually slightly exceeding expectations this year that might be why. Let me. Ask you questions like. Let me, ask we gotta do it like. I. Think we got do it. Let's hold off one second brand play a little drawing a blank here. The video already rolled. We can't go backwards on the raise even things up last night behind an impressive pitching performance from Blake Snell struck out nine over just four and two thirds so brandon. Blake SNELL's game to performance. Last night was blank. It was nasty. Have loved the scene go a little longer, but it was nasty I mean we had a we had our guys wish on the show yesterday and he he talked about him I was like, let me let me really see with this guy's going to do and I think he came in he said his team up for success. I don't know if it's because of the new analytics, a data coming around baseball but I think he should have stayed in their little bit longer. Well. Listen I. Think it was beautiful not only because that's get second game in a row I've made money in this series. told you I like the raise last night but it's beautiful just like Blake Snell is I mean can we show a picture of this man i? Mean I think we've got it I. Mean Look at this. Oh Oh, he. Used to know is those beautiful performance by a beautiful picture Kevin Wilde's. I. One hundred percent agree in Brennan to your point. It was a brief outing because he picks on Sunday. So we knew we weren't going to get a ton of them in the raise like to have a lot of pitchers sort of like new baseball I. Don't think we're gonNA see like a complete game shutout anymore. A lot of people. Up. There let's leave it off his. Marinate. On this picture. Discrimination is identical twin. So awesome. We'll switch gears get back to some football main Tonio Brown is as close as ever to make a return to the NFL way to you guys here which team is prime to land him. That's next first things first. A healthy lifestyle should be easy. Right veggies. Drink Green smoothies exercise to get your heart rate up through yoga. Bring your heart rate down. Maybe it's not so easy. But there is something that helps improve everything and you can do with your eyes closed. 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The beleaguered receivers eight weeks suspension is close to ending and a report yesterday said that the Seahawks are one of a group of teams that are pushing to sign a ad now that he'll be eligible to return in week nine we urge these rumors before about a potential. ABC to Seattle move we've seen a be working out with Russ. So Brandon in work out with the raiders or with the Patriots, we all know why. So we have to wonder would be a good fit with the seahawks and if so why here? Why Now? Absolutely two names Russell Wilson MP Carol. It's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen Pete Carroll. He built his entire system around the people in that building strengths. When you go to other teams is really stale there's no swaggers no sauce there's no excitement when you walk into a Pete Carroll team meeting, there's music playing people running around the place balls being shot on a basket. It's one of the most amazing things Pete Carroll will come up to you if you're natch yourself and say listen guy I did not bring you here to be somebody else this is perfect for Antonio Brown. Now, there are boundaries he will tell you just don't hurt the team now obviously we've. been talking about this for entire year Antonio Brown or something that you just can't do. So I'm confident that this guy is doing everything it takes to make sure he's putting himself and the team in a better situation where he's back on the field. But when he goes to another team, the first thing they're going to say like Antonio, Brown tell me about twitter tell me about instagram what's your thoughts on Youtube or you WanNa post winter you're going to post how are you going to pose? That's not even going to be a conversation around around Antonio when he walks in Seattle, they're just going to say look if you WANNA post fine. Actually, we want you to post peak carols. Phone on a practice fiance man I love what you tweet it last night. So Antonio Brown can be himself Russell. Wilson. You got to think about the characters that was around him when he was drafted there I think this would be a good fit? I. Think. There's other places out there that he would fit well but his at the at the end of the day is going to be on Antonio Brown how he approaches things when he gets back out there. Yeah Yeah that structure in New England and it's didn't quite workout. So Nick, let me ask you this though if he does lead. Who then who is true? The more explosive offense, the Seattle seahawks where they be in Ross or your Kansas City chiefs. See You. Guys always put me in this position you guys are worn. In these conversations humorist. The alternate homer. We know what the answer is. The answer would be the chiefs like. The chiefs have the better quarterback. Russ is great. The only quarterback football better than Ross is the one that plays in Kansas City. They have the better number, one receiver tyreek Hill and both teams were just adding as a once great. All PRO steeler that we don't yet know exactly what they have left in on belony Antonio Brown. So the answer you can say, Oh, my goodness all you want brandon but in your heart, you know the answer to. The Jason. In the better running backs and they've the better receiving core. So the answer's the chiefs I think it's the most predictable I think it's the most predictable answer nick. I really do I think the Seattle seahawks they're more explosive. You can look at the numbers they have more explosive touchdowns Nick your stat guy you like numbers. That's the true now yeah. Of course, you got all these toys and you have homes but the ways the Seattle seahawks is built is run run run and take a shot. They only have Tyler Lockett in a slot to do two things. That's it. Everything else is down the field. SEATTLE seahawks has the most explosive offense. Break. I think you're right. I think you're right. Well, I think the answer is the seahawks but I'm still on your side and here's why the seahawks are like a sneaker head with like no socks on it's like Oh. That's really great but there's a glaring thing that's kind of disgusting about the fact that the seahawks defense is so terrible necessitates them having an explosive offense there allowing four, hundred, seventy, one yards, a game, they all three, hundred, seventy yards through the air, which means if you're a quarterback you come in and play the seahawks throwing for three hundred, fifty yards, you had a bad game. So the alter so bad defense giant. Three words for you. Know shows socks let's move onto baseball resume sponsored by indeed. Upload Your Resume Today Brandon Lau. Break Gnat who season slump last night not one two opposite field home runs in the rays game to win task sticking with him never dropped him down that lineup. Nick you like this series is gone so far futons dude listen I think the dodgers win tomorrow night and by the way America to over two and giving you a picks I'm GonNa give you parlay this time the dodgers and an under eight Walker bueller holds the raise to to earn over the whole game or over his whole time pitching. The dodgers in afforded to win tomorrow. Night, America. I like that as well. We're ranking NFL teams on the other side next tears. Dispersing? Debut over new segment what's going? On Tuesday I brought out the herd hierarchy is considered an industry leader. What I say normally goes America GM's coaches just acknowledged my number one team is number one this week I had Tampa Bay a much better defense than say Kansas City and now as we predicted the bucks defense would be great early the offense about Thanksgiving would be good and apparently nick right saw this and just I guess the only doubter of the herd hierarchy in its history go ahead what's wrong with it Well it made me so mad that I have decided that starting tomorrow I'm going to release my own tears of the NFL to counter program this nonsuited on first things. First Eight am tomorrow new segment the nick right tears to go against the hierarchy. Is Eighty am tomorrow and we're breaking it out. You broke the news yesterday on the verb we got a new segment we're calling it knicks NFL tears where we check in a each Thursday with you and see where you've got all thirty two teams ranked tag that Colin Coward Aright Nick. And it might be Wednesdays moving forward illusory Wednesdays and Thursdays at eight am but it'll be ever. Watched programming. Okay. Because unlike. Where you anyone can do a one through ten power rankings. We're GONNA give you all thirty two teams. So throw it on the rain and I'm GonNa ask you to direct your eyes to the bottom of the screen, and we're going to go off a reverse I journal. So the bottom tier all by themselves. Only talk about them anymore or the jets. The next here is just the NFC eggs. Just that division is a whole there. The bottom to that next, here's an interesting one looking for a coach or a quarterback. Detroit needs a coach Denver might need both the Vikings quarterback Houston needs it coach the chargers and the Bengals just wrapping quarterback the Falcons coach, the Jaguars need both. Here's where we started to get the interesting teams. These are intriguing teams, but they're not real playoff contenders we're talking to colts we're talking the dolphins, the rams, the rams are foreign to all four of their wins came against that second last here, the NFC, the NFC, do they even count San Francisco's to banged up I've questions about the cardinals and panthers being a year away. So now let's zoom in on the four tears that really matter. This is the. These are the teams we really care about again from the bottom up playoffs but no ring. Each of those five teams there has a fatal flaw in Tampa in Cleveland. It's about the fact that they're quarterbacks melt wind pressure this year look at the numbers in Chicago that we know that Nick foles once upon a time did win the super. Bowl. And they can get to the playoffs, but they're not going to threaten anyone the raiders are a good story they cap out and about nine ten wins and the bills got exposed for what they are. Now these top three tiers, these teams can win the title Green Bay. You're worried about their offensive line after what you saw, but we know how good they are Tennessee we have. Done since Mariota took over in new. Orleans. Little concern about drew brees aging. But I'm going to give them the respect they earn over the last couple of years the Patriot under five hundred. Why are they there because if they make the playoffs Bill Belichick is such a decided advantage and Campbell of be fully immersed in the offense by then and then you. Have the cream of the crop Seattle statistically the best offense and football deepens is terrible cringe Pittsburgh. I think the most complete team in the NFL so far this year Baltimore has only lost three regular season games last two years, and then there's the champs. So Brandon, those teams that really matter if we can stay focused on this I imagine you have no no. because. This is obviously a flawless list, but just go ahead. Stay there. First of all, no, we're not going to stay here. You gave the jets, their own category. That's so disrespectful when you know that I am guy come on man that's disrespectful and then I wanna, go to your flawed dangerous thing we're going to work our way. But dangerous link. To also really take the cardinals and the RAM series. The Rams are doing something. They've never done in a very long time and that's getting it done on the ground I. Think this team can be dangerous if they can get back to running that ball the way they did two weeks ago. But then the biggest discussion wilds, the Tampa Bay bucks really would do is not even if I keep saying I said all week has nothing to do with the bugs. Has Everything to do with you and Tom Brady what has happened to you in Tom Brady did did he not give you an autograph? This something happened wandering not respect the bucks the buck should be the buck should probably be right underneath the chance and have their own category as go now, giving you the chance. I'll give you that right? That's their thrown. They earned it. The other teams have to knock him off, but the bugs can easily be right there man. Go ahead, wild nick. You know you know I'm a Nick Tears Guy I had I used to get their heard hierarchy or hierarchy I subscribe to it. I got sent to me and I would collect them in my father collected them in his I had I've we've got stacks of heard hierarchies and we always have I used to sit on my grandparents. We are heard hierarchy family but not anymore I unsubscribe and I'm a nick tears guy I don't know if you have. Heard Hierarchy. Is Number One. So I, I used to think because they were first run defense and they're tied for second in the League with twenty two sacks and they just made Aaron Rodgers basically into a mean. I felt like they deserved to be higher up I'm GONNA give you the benefit of the doubt because calling them up and you haven't I wouldn't mind if they moved up especially if they play the raiders and they beat the raiders that feels like they'd have to move up, can't be on the same tears raiders. Okay. Well, this is it says week seven entering week seven. So we'll see what happens this week. This will be fluid. This will be movement movement unlike my MBA tears which it's very hard to create movement on there will. Be, week moving on this but brandon, you had an issue with the bucks. Let me just say this they are going to deal with legitimate pass Russia's over the course of the season and in the postseason they have shown no ability to deal with that has if you know the book said if you press your brain yeah. When they played pass rushers falling apart, they haven't what happened. Yeah. They haven't top they. They have a top five often to line. What are you talking about? They have potentially the sinner and football the right tackle. Playing lights out what are you? Yeah because they were holding calls and they were back in a month third and twelve thirty. You. Hold on I disagree with Washington follow. The weight to on the center, it really did feel like Brady gave Troy Aikman, a lot of dirt on the center because I'm watching that bucks, packers game and every ten minutes wins like it, and here's another thing about Ryan Jensen. Brady didn't change the way. He stands in shotgun because he can't separate what right here's another thing he sweats too much. So I think like, Ryan? Jason's in more than Tom. Brady. But I interrupted you what was your question go ahead? No no no. Yes. So here's the deal I. I got one question. What do they have to do to move up just tell me that because there's everything they've done this far. You crushed him you haven't given them credit. So what do they have to do to earn your respect and move up to the next level? Okay. How about this? beat the raiders, get to five and to have Brady, write this down, beat the raiders and Good. And they'll move up and that that's all they've got to do radio move up one. What does look good. What does it mean to you? When you say Brady look good because your standards are out of this world Raiders Brady look good beat the raiders and Brady look good. Okay. So let's just It's been a few weeks since he had a game where he both through for at least one hundred and seventy five yards and didn't forget what down it was. So let's just check both. Two hundred let's say two hundred. Two hundred and twenty, five, yards, two, hundred and twenty five yards. One hundred, twenty, five dollars. Okay. beat the rams or. Okay and you're be. Up I've got him going into the playoffs that's more than I had them before the year I know from. A JV team they made them look like the. Team that the JV Patriots wiles jv Patriots. Week in and week out. I understand but it can't all wild. It can't all be about head to head record or else I wouldn't be the only person in America reminding folks that the bears beat them and have a better record than him. So we can't just do the the transitive property. Is Greater, than B. So be greater than C wild? I have my note take. A nick is zoomed in on the Cleveland Browns you rank them in the tier call playoffs but no rings I would have had a little lower I. think we're starting to figure out why more headlines for Baker in the boys next person's first. Rate. Against the East rivalry that's been brewing lately Daniel Jones giants trying to get their season going they take on Carson Winston. The Eagles by the way what seven straight against the giants giants said that stops tonight seven thirty eastern on Fox, NFL network and streaming on Amazon prime. All right. It is time to make our picks for Sunday screenplay Super Six contest Terry Bradshaw putting up a million dollars this week. All you gotTa do pick the outcome of six NFL Games. One of the matchups seahawks at cardinals, nicomedes winner, and by how many. You know what? I'm doing right there. I'm blaming. And that is what Seattle's been doing for the last month. One yard away. Don't do the Adrian's they need a fourth to beat the cowboys they need multiple. Versions to beat the Vikings. Arizona by one. Arizona? They play. Get burned the Arizona cardinals in the seahawks unbeaten run Brandon Marshall. Goodness you did it look no man. Seattle by six does, is he really putting this money? Is it his money? Is he paying his debt his money? Like if someone it's Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I'm playing this week because I know Seattle is GonNa win by six I'm playing this week. Okay. Look I I. I support individualism in creativity and I know that Zeke is the one with the feed me Tattoo. But I think cuyler also should go and get a feed me tattoo because he's GonNa just keep eating eight against the cowboys defense. Now, that gets to eat against the seahawks event. I agree with nick the exact same prediction wilder Nick Nick is the best predictor in all of America, and now I'm down to riding the coattails, their Arizona by one stop office who's going to stop this. Is that the over? Over to determine, get your picks in before kickoff on Sunday your chance to be a millionaire back to our top story this morning in Cleveland the highly talented but also somewhat dysfunctional. Cleveland Browns to start the season then they get derailed in a bad way this past Sunday by the steelers browns looked all kinds of out of sorts. It was so bad that head coach Kevin Danske pulls Baker Odell, and the offensive starters wants things got out of hand. As you'd imagine, a lot of questions at a lot of criticism here's Baker Mayfield on how he's handling both. Say. It's it's within this building We know we can be better I know it can be better and that's how it's going to be handled. The outside noise doesn't matter they get paid to talk. We get paid to do our work so. That sounds. Coach Eric Mangini. US now coach. Good Morning. Good to have you here on you. This are the Cleveland browns criticized too much or too little. I I'm so excited to be part of this new segment mcteer's forget I, t. a. r. s with me on it. And the. I don't I'm looking I'm looking I'm looking to promote bad I. think it will work. There's a thing in football that we used to have where I don't know if you guys remember Mae West the. Older actress and her saying you know you have to tell people you're lady then you're not. And I think that's what we're seeing with. Baker. If you've got to tell people that you're not bothered by outside noise and you gotta keep telling him that that then you are you weren't bothered by you pass off the question and you'd move onto the next thing and you can see it in. That that Bob them and in terms of are they are they the most criticized team or unfairly criticized I I don't I don't think they're unfairly criticized or most criticized at all when when you look at it last year with the high expectations and failure to meet those expectations, they were under constant criticism it this year they're a really good point and they haven't played well against the good teams and there's GonNa come with some some questions there. But they're they're over achieving at this point as opposed last year where they're underachieving I don't think they're they're criticized nearly as much as a team like the Dallas cowboys the cowboys are easily criticized significantly more than the Brown. Because one team stinks and the other teams foreign to. And and while they didn't play well against Baltimore Pittsburgh the culture pretty decent t people really like that colts team to Cleveland whooped them. So I feel like that that win counts I. What how is Baker supposed to answer that question and not be criticized for the answer is he's criticized their criticized too much. You know I know it because we're talking about this he was asked about the outside noise. What is he supposed to say that passes muster for you guys. If he says, it motivates me that's no good twenty said last year and we watched him for it. If he says I don't hear it. We say you're lying and if he says, I hear essentially admitting I hear it. But I don't care what that's not good enough either he has to do these media appearances. It is literally in his contract. What is he supposed to say there where he won't be criticized the answer is can't say anything and I will further the point this brandon and coach Judy knows how much I love him but a theme of this show when it comes. To the chiefs coach, let me throw back to you goad since I'm mentioning your name, a theme of this year when it comes to the chiefs is what happened in two thousand nineteen might as well happening nine, thousand, nine, hundred, nineteen it ain't got bleep to do with this football season. So the fact that they underachieved last year and Baker fell into the noise last year I would think should be totally irrelevant. It's about what you're doing this year and they have the eighth best record in all of football and Baker is calls no off the field distractions. Now, he hasn't played well I. Think he needs to play better no doubt about anything but. But. But what else coach? Can he do there to not be the subject of scrutiny here? We'll look we all know that it's not always what you say. It's how you say it and you can look at that video and easily that it bothers them and. The tone demeanor everything. That, he gives off in that answer says that it bothers them and if things don't bother you then then that's apparent to and you can answer things a lot of different ways. Now unfortunately, for Baker, he's a history and a very strong history of being extremely bothered by criticism. So for people to look at this and be skeptical of his answer, I don't think that's unfair and even though we say last year doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's still provides a framework for the discussion moving forward and you're still. Going to compare past performance with future performance it's not like it disappears from all of our memories. I thought Baker showed a ton of maturity when down at the Super Bowl and visited the the show I thought that would there's a lot of growth I think he's shown a lot of growth overall. But at the end of the day, he's not he's not at the point where he doesn't give them. We could pretend because he said that he doesn't but I think we can do what what the truth is. I mean to answer your question Nick. You talk about what is he supposed to say what? He's supposed to do a stand up there and say look I get it guys you know we're going to get back to work. You know we had. We had a few good weeks. This one got away from us. We'll be better next week we're GONNA, work our butts off. That's what you want to hear from your. quarterback that's what you want to hear from the face of your organization. If you don't believe me all you gotTa do is go to Foxborough how can new answer his question this week they just lost it at Denver Broncos, they didn't lose Pittsburgh soon what the he say look I get it everyone things that the sky is falling down but we're going to be fine. We're GONNA work, butts off, and we'll get this. Thing. Back on track I, am confident that's all you gotta say you gotTa have coach said all of that attitude in in the swagger and you don't need that right there because it's going to backfire it's an art. We know this just like you get paid to be a journalist and ask those questions those players get paid to sit there answer it right? That's one of the biggest job that you have outside. Of playing football is to make sure you do a good job eliminating distractions when you're standing in front of the camera. So for me, there's a lot of room for Baker to grow. I don't WanNa hear that from Baker because the reality is he should care what's going on because in modern football, you don't have five six seven years to get it right? You can as James, widths? Then you can ask Blake Bortles. As, Mary Yoda, you don't get the time you are going to be fired after this year. If you don't turn around right now you are behind James Wisden in Philip rivers. You're behind Jameis? Winston and Philip Rivers for the most picks in a game double pick games since you entered the NFL guy that is a ish brandon I got an idea brandon I got an idea. It definitely bothers them coaches right it definitely bothers him last week they're asking with the if he feels affected by the negative and he was like, yeah by you guys at the media, there's wife's on is defending him. So the idea that this doesn't offend in that he's like the quarterback. Bell checks just not true but here's what he needs to do. He needs his own Nicorette. He needs someone to come up and say everything that he can't say I don't think I'm perfectly suited for it but I've seen it work we all need to so I'm going to give give give it my best shot because he could say this Robert I'll say to you know he's got more completions than the reigning MVP Lamar Jackson this Guy Baker Mayfield I've got seven point two air yards per completion. You know that better than Mr Aaron Rodgers doing means and lose into the books and guess what I got. A hundred and seven passer rating. It's better than ever when I'm gotTA clean pocket. So why don't you guys blocked from me and you know who's the got the worst yards after catch average the browns. So I'm throwing the ball why don't you go break tackled and some yards to go baker and yeah I'm porn two guys. When's the last time the browns foreign to before me I don't know I don't remember I'm Baker Mayfield I'm great. I got commercials I'm handsome and got a decent beard on me. So geno that's my. Date feared. The net right for Baker the I don't think I'm perfectly positioned for nobody. Nobody. Nobody's GonNa Take Baker Mayfield over Lamar Jackson or or Aaron Rodgers it's got more completion. He's saying he's no one's GonNa. Yeah I'm I'm not. It doesn't. It makes. It makes. He's not a good quarterback he's not a good quarterback. Plain and simple. He's not a good quarterback that's it and the discussed. Here. Better than Lamar. All right. Don't look now but Antonio Brown who's been awfully quiet on social media Lali could be ready to make his season debut Willa work in wear. Could he end up? That's next first things first coach Dick around. Lose shocked by. Definitely caught. Me Off Guard. And It was a hard thing for for me to hear yesterday just Kinda. Digesting the news. My heart is hurt all day idea was it was heartbreaking for me. I felt bad listening and watching it yesterday and emotional clearly as he put it heartbroken Ryan Fitzpatrick after being benched for down there in Miami Brenda. What was your reaction to hearing Fizi? Say this yesterday. Remember yesterday I said if I know fits I haven't talked to him. But if I know, he said he's the ultimate competitor he loves playing the game. That's why he's still doing it fits has all the money in the world fits has done it. He's been on so many teams moved his entire Brady Bunch family from city to city. He could easily shut it down. He loves the compete. So all this stuff that I was hearing yesterday Oh fix is the Ultimate pro fits is going to cheer on to a fix is going to be great. He will do that after he soaks all this in understands what's happening so sad day for me, Big Ryan Fitzpatrick Fan my my favorite quarterback. I play wit but I. But I love this guy know he'll do well helping out too but it just sucks that he's in this position because if I'm Ryan I'm looking at it like you know what they expanded the play offs. Right at three and three coup we potentially sneak our way playoffs in a could it be magical so sad day said that. coachman genie back with us now we're and take a big and talks Antonio Brown the often troubled wide receivers eight weeks. Suspension is close to ending in a report. Yesterday said that the seahawks are one of a group of teams that are pushing to sign a now that he'll be eligible to return in week nine. Look we've heard these rumors before about a potential ab to Seattle Move Nice catch right there coach see this working out this time didn't work with the raiders didn't work with the Patriots would be be a good fit on the seahawks. He really has a great opportunity. To go in and and revive his career and satellite think. Pete. Has always been outstanding with with dealing with a lot of different personalities and one of the Nice things about going to a successful team and a successful organization where you're not the guy is is it's liberating and I remember in New England when we brought. Corey Dillon and all the things that that people had set about Corey and in talking to court one day going out to practice him saying how how refreshing it was not to have to be out in front not to have to the guy, and it just gave them a chance to to play and to showcase. The talents that he's always had that sometimes got overshadowed by other things and Seattle gives Antonio Brown that opportunity. Now that being said, Antonio's got hold up his end of the bargain as well. They're Seattle's winning. They've got good chemistry. They've got a great thing going you can't go in there and be disruptive. You can't go in there and be selfish you have to go in and and be willing to play a role and to contribute in whatever way they ask you to, and that gives you the best chance next year to go capitalize on on free agency and really. Really start new. I I actually like Antonio Brown and Kansas City I. think that would be a great fit as goodness. Well, so coach, you kind of walked me right to where was going to go, which wasn't the chiefs, but it says on the bottom of the screen woody Antonio Brown be a good fit with the seahawks and much like our Julio Jones discussion yesterday, Brandon removed seahawks and put in almost any team in the league. That's got a good quarterbacks going to the playoffs things like ya he'd be a good fit. How would you Tony Brown right now fit in Baltimore Oh, it would make them wildly dangerous. What about Green Bay opposite Davante Adams all my God it would terrify the rest of the NFC coach mentioned the chiefs. So we would he fit with the Seahawks, of course if the SEAHAWKS and. I think potentially brandon whom ever signs him is getting the best version of him behavior wise because he knows this is his last chance and unlike Oakland, which gave up draft picks and a bucket of money to get him. So when they had to cut him, it hurt them greatly or New England who gave up no draft picks but a decent amount of money to get him. So when they had to cut him, it hurt their cap whomever resigned with next it's all reward no risk he's going to sign for almost no money I'm sure there will be almost no. And it's draft picks. So if it doesn't work, you just move on. So I think he's a good fit with a lot of teams, but you can speak to why he might be a particularly good fit culture wise in Seattle. Yeah I. was there. That was that was one of my last stops in. The things that I realized that it was a good fit, not only for me but for so many other big personalities coming in there because of two people Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll p Carol has set the tempo there of what he wants and the type of culture. It's unbelievable. He is counter culture to almost everyone in the NFL he actually wants you to be yourself. If you're not yourself. He'll walk up to you say this is not why brought you here. When you walk into that meeting room, there's music there's freaking noise everywhere. It's almost uncomfortable for guy coming in has never seen anything like that because it's so counterculture to what happens in the NFL peak carrow sets the boundaries they look just don't hurt the team, but if you want. To tweet if you WANNA youtube, if you want to instagram do that, he may come out in the middle practice. Well, I know what will happen. He'll he'll come in and meeting room. He's going to have your tweet or your post in front of the entire team and everybody's going to be laughing about in dissecting it. So I, really like this I will say that the. Bigger question is not about is it a good fit but is an tonio brown willing to change and I'm going to say I'm a guy hit sitting here today that the first part of my career I was part of the problem in the locker room in when we weren't winning. But then the second half of my career as a part of the solution so I've seen it. Myself were guys are capable of change because I wanted to be and that's the key is, are you willing to change? Are you capable of change and I, think he is, and for that reason I think that this will be a great fit for him. Russell Wilson will be a phenomenal team. Okay well, I'm rooting for the they'd changes his ways brand because I don't think all tweets we're going to be up as previous tweets would be up on the board but. Coach if you're on Seattle. And you're like, wow, more attention to the offense. We also got Josh Gordon waiting in the wings Seattle's offense. There's nothing wrong with it. The thing is a speeding car that's just getting more souped up. Do you feel like there's any should be any emphasis on their poorest defense that's allowing, and this is not a misprint for one reason because I'm right. The second reason it's audio and misprint on print four, hundred, seventy, one yards per game worse than the NFL. Look it would be nice to be able to go get a player of Antonio Brown's caliber on defense. But that that guy's not out there and you just gotTa deal with the opportunities that are available, and then they just come to an arms race with Seattle where who can who can score more and that's that's really where it's been just just going back to to Nick's point about there being no risk with bring him in I I don't think that's necessarily true. There is a risk. In. The sense that if he becomes a distraction I know nick doesn't believe in distractions but if he comes in and you've got to be chemistry and he disrupts that chemistry even if it's just internally then than that, that's the risk to me. It's not he good player. We know he's a good player. The risk is more what when you add a player like Kim to the mix, what does that do to the rest of the group? That's that's really doing a lot of good things. It coach and it's not that I don't believe in distractions I think in large part distractions are often overblown and I under. So let me let me rephrase it just slightly I don't want to say there's no risk whatsoever because there is a possibility decay met gap who's on his way to be in one of the very best receivers and football takes this the wrong way and it disrupts things like that is a possibility. My point is. From a team building perspective, the raiders took a massive risk and lost from a team building perspective the patriots slight risk via cap dollars and lost. The seahawks would be taking no risk as far as money or draft picks that would be risk free the chemistry stuff brain you can speak to I think there is some risk, but we saw the patriots cut him and just keep going along last year on their way to until eleven wins. and. That's why I use the word counterculture coats because this locker room is just set up. So differently, every locker room I've been in one hundred percent. There's GonNa be a big question mark. Guys are going to have their eyes open and watching his every move but this culture in this locker room they embrace and they lean into the dysfunction coach Carroll every single Monday give the guys an opportunity come up here speak your piece I was sitting there Doug Ball when he's easy to deal with Percy Harvey. You think he was easy to deal with Richard Sherman coach. Carroll does a phenomenal job of dealing with characters in guys with big Michael Bennett like think about the characters. That he's head in his on his team and every single day coach Carroll comes in and he just takes it in stride and he takes it one day at a time, and he actually get creates an environment where guys can beat himself but he also talks now if you cross the line and this is why I love coach Carroll, you cut right then but everyone internally knows you can be yourself and they also know if you cross that line coach Carroll in Snyder's won't cut you. Look we're giving Antonio Brown, big benefit of the doubt assuming that he is what you call a changed person and he's going to go into a new organization and suddenly be unlike the guy that we saw in the last two organizations he played for Balestra. Nick say Seattle Does Land Antonio Brown. Now you and it works and the chemistry works. He got an explosive offense there in Seattle. Then you look at that explosive offense on the team you root for and I just wonder who has the bigger Austin should that point which offense better Seattle or Kansas City. I have to paint you in that corner I just that's. A No I, it's a fair question I. Get it. You want to hold any team that could be great to the greatest and get the. Standard bearer fat last. For the next decade or so. I think coach that bills game was really interesting. Because the bills went into that game against the chiefs and they said our goal our way to beat you our best chance to beat you is, let's turn your running attack into Derrick Henry and the Tennessee titans because we're so terrified of your passing attack that was that wasn't an accident. That's what they plan to do all week leading up to the game and as great as is, and right now he's the MVP the league. There's one quarterback in the league better than him, and that is Patrick mahomes tight tyreek hill is better than decay metcalf Chelsea's better than Olsen. Those reasons. Chelsea's. Who Know Who's not? Zeh mcevers the best receiver in football right now no way I love the that's a whole nother segment. We maybe we talked about it tomorrow we break down some of the top receiver I. Own only be eligible to be reinstated to the NFL. Past joining us on the other side scandal here to talk about his team the Ravens and why he thinks they're the team to beat this year I. Think's earth. Affect Your First Things First Talking Baltimore Ravens the team writing a three game win streak. Thanks in large parts of that defense giving the fewest points per game through seven weeks. What are the key members of that defense aid see defensive player of the week Callejas Campbell who joins us now after his niece axe last week against billy glaze good morning. Thanks for joining us again. I want to start with why you're here. You're partnering with the Old Spice to promote a new film about education. Tell us a little bit about your involvement in Rome. Yeah so call it a black boy is the documentary. released. Just. Kinda shine a light on the on the way it is for blockades in America right now, and you know there's a big thing education in trying to use other teams that movie to raise their graduation rates, oh spices a. Your commitment to raise graduation rates across us. American. The players like me to help really initiative I'm gonNA stick some classrooms. Future and just trying to push You know just how Spicer Tournament the partnership and really make a difference in the community. That's awesome. It's great partnerships. Great work you guys are doing. I want to go to the field for a moment you have. Long list accolades all decade team, all pro Walter, Payton Man of the year you might have done something for the first time though this past week, which is you directly got a guy fired as an offensive guard blamed for the eagles. He lets you get defensive player of the week again, they get rid of him. So I don't know if you need to send him something but. I am curious as a veteran player in an elite player. We see this on the wide receiver Corner Matchup sometimes a backup corner comes in and you feed that player when you see teams banged up on the offense wine and there's an inexperienced guy of in front of you how does that change your approach like you say, okay, this is a game that I can single-handedly take over. This situation because. I remember when Jamaa Brown was rookie you got drafted by the Rams and A Familiarity with not do dame a little bit and so allow me to have an advantage. On the season he actually better as the game went alone and You know like some teams you know. So he's orange business and they kind of move a little fast but he definitely got better as the game on he hasn't played much. Sure. To kinda work off the but. I did see it as opportunities like this is the first game I really felt like best to. So I think it's a combination of really didn't go in and really feeling good. Over here in oxygen being different, you know it took a lot of rooms get the motor going so Sound good and hopefully I keep going. I'm really happy. Yeah big dog thirty four still getting it done unbelievable defensive player of the week AFC because a player of the week three sex four quarterback hits five tackles after that game and you tweeted that this team football, I am reading a little bit too much in that man tell me what that means that can mean a lot that can mean a lot. It'd be not just anybody else report a lot of guys from Buffalo Ball but there, there is a special kind of qualities. the right and do a really good job but bringing in. Guys who really loved the and there was you know you don't ten guys everybody understand has severe Puerto Denver football and it allows you drive in you put the working. It doesn't really feel like work when you're out there grinded because everyone's like you're having a good time. Skirt. Collapse Ravens defense allowing seventeen points a game best in the NFL, and this is all being done in the backdrop of a historical season opt for the offense most touchdowns most points. Do you feel like this? Season because it's such as been such an offense of explosion that's extra challenging for you guys or does it just feel like another season? Cheese and they put a bunch of points the last. Desperate Situation Rubio got going to some plays. Carson Winston. To. Be Back in a ball game and we had to fight to win. But you know the difference we're just scratching the surface we can be you know with the offseason. Going really didn't have a lot of time with each other and you don't have a lot of new parks for me and Derek Wolfe in in some rookies have to step up and make plays without. You, we really have to adapt fast and we did a really good job coaches took A. Course staff admitted incredible job of baroness but still unique offseason in Texas you're going to get a lot better goes along. I ran a few technical difficulties hearing you, which is a bummer because we've got so many things we wanna talk to you about. So we're going to get all that settled. But in the meantime, if we don't, you're on the by you got steelers next week WanNa wish you all the best of luck you're going up against as brandon would call it a behemoth of a team in in the league right now. So that'll be a great competition, Claes, thank you so much for hanging out with us this morning we are. Take. Break exactly and thank you again to old spice glazed. Thank you. Take a break talks Dallas cowboys in the latest on what's going on there and big d first things first back after this. Now and not in a good way yesterday, we talked about anonymous cowboys players reportedly criticizing Mike McCarthy's coaching staff are being unprepared for being. Not good at their jobs. As my kids would say, that's an alley. McCarthy was asked about it again yesterday in addition to sane these issues should be handled in house. He also said quote I think the key word there is anonymous, our resident Walsum dancer coach Eric Mangini back with us. Now coach, who do you think is more responsible for the cowboys struggles at this point, the coaches are the flares. Well. First of all Genera I want to know what was that on that playlist because I wanNA make sure that. I deleted. I. Don't know what I felt more on colder with your dancing or ben handles. The. Question. I I'm speechless after that dancing but but in turn to this topic. This the the whole idea of anonymous comments is is week it's week and it probably didn't come from a player I came from an agent elva disgruntle player who either isn't thinks he's not getting paid enough thinks he's not getting played. The correct way doesn't want to be accountable for the the lack of success that they've had in Dallas and and look it. It's the same thing. Last, they couldn't wait to run out Jason Garrett, right Jason was the problem. So they bring in a new head coach and this guy doesn't know what to do. You know has got thirty one years of experience but he has no idea how to coach Football Mike Nolan has thirty nine years of experience, but he has no idea how to coach football they're six games into the season. It's it's ridiculous for for if someone did do this anonymously a player did this do this now anonymously it's just week you have every opportunity to go in and talk to the head coach and tell them what your concerns are. It tell them what you think should be changed or could be changed and hill he will listen, and if you don't feel like you're gonna get satisfaction there, you can talk to the cap and there's so many avenues to to travel down before you start putting anonymous comments in the paper. It's just it's a sign of of a lack of character lack of leadership lack of being a teammate it's just plain week and wrong. Wow. Coach, Yeah Coach I. Agree with you on that one. It's absolutely unacceptable. You look. I would actually be a problem if you're my coach. And I was in this locker room I was your wide receiver and this happened I will actually become part of the problem because you have probably went into the team meeting room and say guys, this can't absolute. This can this can never happen I would have stood up and I would have said who, who said it put your name on it and you're right brandon please sit down sit down but coach. I think it's both the player and the coach. I. Truly believe that in all I heard you talk about was well, it's the player's agent or the player I just think what you said is critical. You have to be a coach willing to listen to your players. Some coaches don't, and it sounds like you're, can you take me to take into any of those moments where one of your players came to your office? Is like look coach I. Don't think this is working now this is the tone in the locker room you know I think we need to fix it. Did you take it in and what did you do? It it was. It was always the case whether it was when I was a defensive backs coach and lawyer Malloy tylar Rodney Harrison had ideas on on different ways to do things. We'd always talk about that or it's a defensive coordinator. If Mike Vrabel or Bruschi or any of those guys spoke up and said, they had something that they that they thought could be a different way we live about that was natural. That's good boy. It's just it's just part of having a relationship. It's part of a all working towards the same goal of the same thing as a head coach you're constantly working with your quarterback. You're constantly working with your team captains. Your goal is not to be adversarial with your players. Your goal is to get the best possible situation for everybody involved because we all. Depend on each other all of our success is tied into to each other and and it's in my best interest to help you be as successful as you possibly can be as a player and when you start pointing fingers, it's the classic. It's the classic trait of a loser mentality. It's not it's not me it's you. It's not me it's new you know what came. Personally. Personally, to make things better. So yes, listen. On this false spectrum of things I like and don't like doing on television on the furthest left bound of things. I like the least it's watching that clip of Jinnah Dancing. On the furthest, right. Things, I liked the most. Blaming coaches for teams failing I love it. Wakes up in the morning this guy did not to go for four thousand this guy. This guy doesn't understand who to keep on the court at the same time doesn't matter the sport give me to about game five of the world series and I'm coming for one of these guys haven't decided yet what is coming? With that said. This is outrageous by whichever cowboys player or players said it. There are plenty of times wilds to blame coaches when you of allowed thirty six and a half points per game the worst in football by half a touchdown that ain't it when you have committed the most turnovers in the League fifteen and forced the fewest turnovers three that ain't it. It is not coaches foltz that Zeke. All of a sudden started becoming a fun work Michael. Gallup's dropping touchdowns that the safeties don't understand that what honestly I think they named the positions safety just so you don't know football it's like well what I'm supposed to. Make. Sure everybody say. Like that's not coaching. This is the players being terrible, and so there are plenty times wild I wanNA, blame coaches the. Greatest Thank the. Just passing the buck and so I find it as embarrassing coach does. Just, to play the other side of it, Mike McCarthy said he was prepared to play the cardinals. The cardinals came into Jerry World and smash to the cowboys. So often the player I can be like you know what our coaches setting prepared turns out. He's not prepared. Oh. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA. Grant. All go to the media like it's just the truth I is player. Don't think I have the avenue to tell the coach or tell the captain because the captain likes to co- your I feel like I don't know I'm taking the other side of this one coach I I haven't seen anything put on tape where the coaches are immune from criticism and player. Maybe I don't see the avenue may there on. The Avenue to to send that message. While the. Jazz. Dancing the they're their take where. They're at a place where the coach is an all-powerful powerful. The DMZ is the owner g is the owner if. It was great Jenner. So. If you don't if you're happy with with. With the recourse getting from dealing with the head coach, you can go talk to the owner. It's not like a totalitarian regime where there is no other avenue you have another avenue before you go to the media and you're telling me that Jerry Jones wouldn't listen to a disgruntled player of course, he would. You. All right. Let's switch gears and talk about a little bit of Lady Unveil Brett Farve Johnson on the chiefs signing all pro running back not as huge spaded. The move guys listen to what five had to say said, well, they don't need them. They've got a good thing going in sometimes adding player of. Caliber can do more harm than good. I'm not saying it will, but you know think about it this way, what can they do with Levy on that? They are not doing already other than feeling the need to give him the ball to police in, which is really all that you're putting him in there for. So Brandon taken away you agree with far where do you fall on this? I do agree with. But I don't think that it will happen in this situation, but I agree with them because you know I experienced this I realized when I was too high strong for one in the ball or being involved I would disrupt the rhythm of the play caller I knew that I could disrupt the rhythm of the quarterback. What you want is your quarterback the drop back and just feel free going through his progressing going through his reads and making the decision he think is best. But when you have a high strung wire receiver player that. Once. The ball that things that thing that goes on in a quarterback is hit. It's like man if I don't get this guy to ball. Then when I get to the sideline, is he going to yell at me or we're going to have an argument or is he going to POW? Does he want to shut it down? So those are things that are a strong player who wants the ball can potentially disrupt when it comes to that offense the offense coordinator you want that offense coordinator say you know what I'm in a rhythm? I'm calling it up. We don't I don't care who gets the ball. We just want the W.. But if you have a guy like look I haven't touched the ball in a quarter two quarters or the last four games I really haven't been productive give me the ball he's got nor I got to get this guy to bog. He's GonNa come in my office Monday and Wednesday, it just disrupts everything you're trying to do on offense. So for me I do understand what Brett Farve is saying however in this situation, I, don't see. That happen you have a veteran head coach and then you also have a quarterback who has set the set the standard saying that I distribute the ball equally whoever's opens going to get the ball yes I have my plays. Yes I know my guys ended the day. They have so many weapons and they do a great job of getting everyone involved and you've got to imagine that they had a conversation later on. This is how we're GONNA use you sign off on it he started off on it and certainly view on he'll be fine. To your point brandon, it goes back to our Antonio Brown discussion. If you add a player that could potentially disrupt the chemistry then then yeah, that's that's an issue and that's a risk you take I don't think this is that situation watching LE`veon's press conference I felt like he was excited to go there and play a role he was excited for whatever opportunity that that he got and he wanted to win and to me that is the perfect perfect. Situation for a team when you're adding Lebanon Bell and I know he was a disappointment, New York remember two years ago. He had sixty six for the jets. It's not like he had no production whatsoever. But now Levian on bell is an afterthought as part of the weapons that you have to stop and if he's a fraction of. Of the guy that that he was, it just gets to the point where what what are you going to take away it eventually come to the point where you're going to spin the rolodex against Kansas City because you're not really taking away anything. I hope something hits because it doesn't matter where they go to. They can be explosive I I really like his attitude going to Kansas City. I think it'll be liberating for them and I think it will give them a chance to revive his career. Yeah I. Think the key is we got a window into what matters Selebi on bells coach was alluding to by seeing which team he chose he could have gone to Miami listen I've lived in. Kansas. City. For twenty years of my life. Great Town. You want to raise a family low cost of living second most fountains of any city in the world but if I was young rich and single MIAMI. If I'm worried about nightlife, right? Yeah it is true. Only has more look it up. It Fountains Sectors Wha Fountain capital of the United States, look it up. and. So the The fact that he chose the chiefs over Miami the and the lifestyle or the chiefs over the bears where he would have just gotten the touches, the bears desperately would use him more than the chiefs will. So it speaks to me wilds that he's putting a focus on winning the king knows he doesn't think he's going to Kansas City and GonNa be the number one option, right so I, just I feel like Gena that we have an idea of what's important to by the fact that it'd be one thing if he was on waivers and the chiefs clean them and he didn't have a say in it but he chose the chiefs which gives me optimism it's. Virtually dance with me. Joining. US If that's the. Only some day. Now. Golden. Up Crying? Some friends on the other side watch us more ready. I looked in the right but wait hold. Your. Video. Guys. For Stories to start your morning sponsored by Ranchera built to serve in our top story this morning grounds reeling after tough loss to the steelers last week yesterday a very stowed Baker Mayfield was asked about all the criticism his team is hearing. Take a listen. I, don't give a damn what they say. It's been this building. We can be better I know I can be better and that's how it's going to be handled outside noise doesn't matter they get paid to talk. We get paid to do our work. So that's sounds good. BROWNS team. You think they're criticized too much or too little. Well. The fact that we're talking about this is the answer the question. Answer is revealed in the question. It's too much for four to. This is. Anybody picking the browns go to the Super Bowl before the year I didn't see it. Show me. I. Follow all the prognostication I didn't see. Any browns players saying we're going to be a thirteen and three team. This division is ours I. Didn't hear that but show but show me if I miss the clips. Did what folks were demanding they do last year they were quiet. They went about their business and through six games of the season. There are only seven teams in the league better than them but they have a polarizing quarterback who people some folks guy calm cowards one of them who are you guys know how much I Adore Collin Collin hadn't like Baker since Oklahoma and will always pick at it and he's a polarizing guy ever since he planted the flag when he was in. College and the way he conducts himself. So we are going to find ways to win the play well when they when they beat up the colts who everyone loves going into that game, how how often is it disgust never but when they get crushed by great team in Pittsburgh and then Baker says I'm not listening to the noise. We say, well, he says he's not listening to the noise but I brought in a body language expert here who tells me the way his Eyes Roll is listening to the noise like we're a bad political show and Odell, which I know we'll get to will always be polarizing. He's brought some of that onto himself modell who has been a perfect citizen. This year is finally to tell in America. You know what I'm done I'm done trying to change why am I am I am so of course, they're criticized too much. There's four teams in the AFC with a better record than them seven and the whole league with a better record than them they are not underachieving but because folks don't like some of the people on their team, we're gonNA find ways to tear them down. But the issue nick is that when you're on the losing. Team and you're in a losing organization then you're criticized too little. They haven't had a winning season since two, thousand and seven. We just talked about how long it took for them to start a season four one. So I don't care if it's the Cleveland browns the Jacksonville Jaguars jets like if you're not a good team, then this comes with the business. This comes with it. This is part of being a pro their. This is why his words this is why his words is not about like. Okay. I got to answer this question. It's how he's answering it like he has a chip on his shoulder. It's comes with the business you get to a point as an athlete where you know the tough questions are going to come. So you do it in a way where it's like you know what it is what it is we didn't play. We didn't play great last week we started off really good we'll. Get back there. All you gotta do is fall example someone vets around the league. That's what I did when I got in the League. I didn't know how to talk in front of the media. I just watched every single time pay in manning was in front of the cameras I watch Peyton manning and I said I'm going to do exactly what he does and all he has to do is watch Cam Newton. Look around Lee Cam Newton just play the Denver Broncos the Denver broncos without a quarterback and they lost eight what did he say? I know everybody thinks this guy's GonNa fall down but you know what I'm GonNa come I'm GonNa come to work again. We'll get this thing career ended. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. If Baker said, I know everyone thinks the sky is falling I want to get an umbrella. You know what the question is. Why is Baker Mayfield listening to the outside noise we can always phrase it. Why does he know everyone thinks the sky's falling? Why is he feeding into it? Why is Baker? We can always do this and by the in Cam by the way was talking about. Refine this. Correct. But you you just went back to his time in Oklahoma. He's been a high profile guy. So I'll I don't care what they think it. All only thing that matters what we're doing inside. Well, you better care because those those days are over were leading quarterbacks. Developed over five, six, seven years. If you don't hit it within three years, they're drafting someone else because that is an issue we know that this team this team is set up is not, oh, we got we drafted our guy and this quarterback is going to lead the way. No, they're saying, let's run the ball. Let's only throw it fifteen twenty times a game. This is not modern football. You gotta be able to go for three hundred yards weekend and week out and he's not that guy so that's why they're not even set up for success long term. Will Baker wasn't the only guy criticize yesterday Odell also chiming in on the critics as well. He was seen on the sideline member of shoes were off. He was yelling at fans he threw his helmet down after he got pole. Take a listen to what he has to say about it. Mom Pierce and at this point I really don't care keep trying to make make my show looked like a good guy into the world and it because I am lying I got pulled out of the game. The coach said, this is the best decision you know we're going to. It's eight minutes left and familiar rather take my good man I rather take my win the same way Of last. Compete. Kind of over. You know trying to play the right because. I love him to death but those people who? Have Plenty of rings and considered the gold and they. Do things on the sideline and. Do things on the sideline and they get away with it and classified as passionate because. They're they may have. Something behind the legacy or whatever it is in Sydney. We love much much. I Brandon what was your reaction to what Adele had to say There's a lot here I mean we can spend the entire show breaking down Odell. Why receivers one hundred percent? There's a double standard he's talking about Tom Brady yes. But here's the challenge when you're an emotional player union emotional person right? We Tom Brady do this but it doesn't mess with his production and there's an argument that there's like Odell when he when when his emotions get the best of him. He doesn't play well. When is the emotions get the best of him it may disrupt guys on the sideline and I'm saying that from experience. So when you look at Tom Brady when he does that guys get better when Odell does that sometimes guys get better sometimes they don't and I just think that when you're an emotional player and that's what's gotten you to this point it's a very difficult thing to do is like to manage it window I, turn it on when do I turn it off and I think Odell has gotten better over two years and it's just a big struggle for guys like you gotta think about it. The things that make him who he is is the emotion it's unmatched, the passion, the drive that dog mentality. But then there's Times where you can just cross the line and it can affect people in the building. So I think Odell has done a tremendous job since he's less left the new. York giants and even there he was getting better but there's still some work to be done. Do. You think this is all just a PR problem nick. That the browns just have a bad PR strategy that Baker says things like well, that's not the right pr move and then and then Odell took shoes off and I said earlier because like well, that's an interesting story. That's GonNa be a thing and then brandon in the meeting you're like, no man, those cleats are super uncomfortable. Like. You take your shoes off I would take them off to and it just wasn't a story because maybe there wasn't a camera on my feet. But like so there's GonNa do. Geno, what else do you listen I? Know what you're GONNA say it doesn't matter what he does. You'RE GONNA. Do it combination of. Miami thing down taking his shoes off yelling at someone in the crowd like if it was just the shoes I, get it was a moment and writer wrong. It was a moment from him and people are going to decide him. He is a polarizing figure and now I listen I to what he said then hands. Rate and this is. This necessarily John Hood. That's your job Nick no no, that's your job. That's one thing that we're missing is not just about football when you make it to the NFL, you don't just develop as a football player you. As a person, you develop as a husband who developed as a father. How you sprain because here's the deal daily. Dale knows this hold on one second one second. Here's this is what we gotta get it absolutes. You know who you are. You know your emotional player look I'm talking now I know I'm emotional. So you know what I knew is that when we were losing a game if Jay Cutler threw a pick that there was gonna be six, I knew exactly how many cameras would be on my face any any change of of of of momentum in A. Game, there's going to be six cameras on my face. So what do you do because you know you're highly scrutinized you sit there. You don't give them anything and that's what the greats do. You gotta developing that area. So yes, it's Dell is unfair sometimes yes. But at the end of the day, you've got to continue to develop Tom Brady. Yes he's. When he continues to develop Iranian. I. Got it. Now I got and I've never. You know you're arguing against the point I didn't make okay. Odell has developed. He has improved. He's not fixed. It's not a hundred percent better. As you said, he's growing he's improving he's learning and we just pick guys that we are going to a serie was Odell Beckham junior the only player this week. Here's here's this. Because Jars not, it's the job which are saying is like blended because jar does. As. Last year last year, we were told for the browns just win gangs and this year they are winning games. So we're talking about shoes and Baker Mayfield. We had another. Guy Dissect that's it. We're never going to be fair with these guys. They're polarizing players on a polarizing team much more to discuss i. have a great day. Everyone. We'll see tomorrow.

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We need to address russell westbrook and then of course we're cowboys draft reaction but first let's talk about that game last night. The lakers were without lebron last. I but we're still able to end their three-game scared against the nuggets in a ninety three to eighty nine win. And after mega a game seal. Unblock anthony davis could be seen telling teammates quote where back on the broadcast heart. The lakers back window quite that far scale but it was a much needed team win. They needed that bad. They were coming off to horrible losses. You lost eleven seed toronto raptors. Who's not even in the plane. Yes get they lost to the twelfth seed close to being in the play and so two teams that have you have twenty seven. Wins eight and you lose bad to these teams at home and so they really needed this team in the western conference. Not yoke is the front runner for the mvp michael porter. Jr. is playing as well as any any young player in the nba currently into hold that team who had nine one in the absence of Jamal murray evidence one hundred nineteen points a game to hold that team to eighty nine point skill. They got back to what they do but guys made shot. The most gathered impressed with with anthony davis. Skift he was aggressive last night. He wasn't waiting to see where the double team gonna come. Why should i do. He got the ball. He did something with it immediately. And with a double team came he passed out of it and when they left one on what he punished the guy again. They made the game a lot closer than what it really needed to be. Skip because we're we're told you about that lone score and drought. Well let late the ball game. They go five minutes lit. Land seven seven shots. Turn the ball over until eighty got the running to go down the lane and when they needed it. They hung their hat on. The defense side. Got great contributions wisdom matthews. Come in three big three than the fourth. Marcus all had his best game to date as a laker hit. The threes made it tough. Holyoke he the big ca. You know every time you bought give you keep talking about luca. Complain can't complain more than you. Maybe that's a european thing. He just complaints harder. Yoki sorta does to call. Please give me a call but they needed this kill. They lost six or seven and to be moving at home. Look theoretically you're at home even though you own role game. You've got the clippers. But you got clippers. You got portland. You've got the slowing you needed. This and i told you we already got cable. I feel very we. We'll get forty shrink back gift sweepstakes all three of you know what i remember. You bet meet five to seven games. Said they're going to go into what a an easy those last seven. We'd have no other way. Yeah where the way you probably think about it. You won those without shooter. You won that game without lebron. Sometimes i think is easier for guys to play when the superstars are there. Because guess what. I can get extra shots. The minutes is hard to me. 'cause guys like mark associated bits last night guys. Let's stop talking about individuals a team we play we play. Just come in and do your job. They need is. I'm not gonna say they're back. They'll long way from being back but this was a much needed. A much needed team win. And the guys played extremely well. Frank what would need to be extremely proud of the way the guys played. even though he liked the goofed. it up scale. Why would he do this tuition which one that will play really well. He takes them the other guys back to you. Lyn tucker play. Let matthew let the guys way to get you. Leaders expanded it minnesota to parents be killing me. You want him fired. I thought he was vogues. Mobile today screen today. Well oh ye of little faith. You should bet me last night but you did not have the guts. You did not have the belief in your team to beat your kitchen company at home without lebron james and shrewd and without shrewd kyrie shooters i so it was such a special win. That at the end i i was thinking should i set aside time today for the parade is afternoon. Because you're going to be the parade master and did you see what happened. I don't know maybe they do this. Every night. All of a sudden i look up in the three staples center. Just rolling ceilings by. What is that about because you upset denver without lebron or kyrie schreuder on some early night in may with. Wow so we were really. And i was like seriously and then ideas parents. Chess back really. Well you're back because he blocked a shot shot by some sorry composite. Oh who. I told you yesterday. Had become a catalyst and one streak little man from argentina's thirty years of age but he's a rookie in the nba. And he is all a five feet ten inches tall. So could we see that block that saved the game. This is six ten versus five ten. That's gonna make you back. We're back your back off that block. You read into that. Lose a foot taller than that man. Any blocked his shot. And i'm supposed to gloat for him and say way to go and he d we block the shot from twelve feet away. Blue wave banding when they play when yo the ball to composite composite is listed at five ten. I don't even think he's five ten. I think he's five eight seriously and he plays his little behind off. He's just he's the the fly in the man. He is everywhere. Yeah disrupting steel at the five steals last night way to go and they did hang in and they did have a chance late in the game and if we could see what happened to composite speaking of with two six left in that game. Do you remember the call the fat could we see this. How does this happen. Is this not refs. Want lakers to win. He got called for offensive foul. You can't do. what does he do. he's just finishing his pass. they can't they. Notified michael porter. Junior's three that would have cut it to one. I think you're gonna lose the game if you don't get this call seriously. Uk's were on an incredible illegal crack back that's the highest rank higher the ruling but he's not cracking back front of ad and does the all time flop again that's revive nine versus six ten. Seriously you down my side blah while so it's all about composite all right and then if we could see what happened to taylor horton. Tuck your man. T t h t on so he takes it upon himself and i have high regard this. He says i got this. I got this. I got it i want. What kind of shot was that. He gets it back and is able to open under it and that won the game for them. What kind of a wild shot was that. He was embarrassed by. He was actually trying to draw contact. The clock is running down if he just trying to get on the rim. Get contact maybe just get it up and marcus wildest shot to still ice the game would okay if he had made it but he did but he did go to his credit. He stayed at a soulmate. A very sweet nice subtle play because he reached over yokich and tap the ball away from it every hole right and he's holding won't but that's how he plays and i'm i'm good with that. So t h. Ht's saves the game and then obviously way d- saves it by blocking the five nine guy but here's what happened to me last night. You got to huge breaks after your man kyle kuzma who's becoming these spokesman for this team. He's sort of the voice of reason on this team. He had said after your horrible loss the night before at home too was that sacrament. He said that you needed to play mark ghazal and guess what happened. It wasn't that vogues had the guts to play mark. It was that your guy kareem abdul drummond got in foul trouble and he got his fourth foul late in the second. Quarter to twenty two left and in came marcus. All who's been a did not play in eight of his last fourteen games. He has not played a minute so he is on ice. In mothballs on the bench because of the big penguin he has been replaced. But you make. It seem like he had been playing there hadn't been cut and checked. He's still getting checks when we call you name be ready okay. But he was ready and he got replaced because they went and bought out speaking of checks they bought out. Andre drummond and here he came. And you've been over there just your side of drums beating the drum beating the drum beating the drum guess. What trump did last night. He played almost twenty two minutes. He had zero rebounds. You like that zero. He scored a grand total four points. We had four zero and he was a minus eleven. To got look. Drama is not a gas give. Some guys can play foul trouble and they knows how to navigate that and still be able to play well. He's not one of those guys. He getting foul trouble early. So now you take him out of his rhythm of being able to rebound a basketball being able to crash being able to get you some point so it took him out of his game and and thankfully mark assault being a professional that he understands. You know look. I watched his team four from afar last year. There were gave. dwight howard. Mcghee didn't play their games. They did play a marquee. Moore's didn't play. But when my number's called i just need to be ready because are waiting on me. Okay kouzmines say you know what martin needs to get some run but if we put market in the game and market ready to play both. That's what mark hadn't been playing on. The guys created that on the bench cut. Horton took the mattheus with the last time we saw play. All right i'll get to that you just a moment. So mark assault comes in. And what does he do in the third quarter. He hits too big. Three's day day. What did he do early in the fourth quarter. He hit another big three so he he makes three out of four three point shots for your team which ranks twenty third in three point. June twenty third so meanwhile back at the ranch. The denver nuggets are going six of twenty four from three. You know why. Because they asked noah lebron it's it's not even any shooter out there so we got this and they took their foot off the gas. They did not take you seriously and they had there. Were shooting night in. Probably ten. Twelve games twenty five percent from three. Meanwhile suddenly you go forty three percents from three in large part because of gusau and who bothers yokich more than anybody who's not cassava used to be dwight because you know the thing is that he understands how the european he's a european big man mirror all of his sloppiness all of his sneaky all shrewdness disol- knows it all but grew up with it. He wanted to say last night where he do a lot of plot because every time you turned his body is doing and he makes it tough on the officials skip out mean he really dislodging them. Is it really really doing that. Will give but margaret saul film. Foot tall did a great job. Skip both in the court on. Give him credit for that. Hey on yokich. Ordinary joe topol. Yoke all night twenty eight but but he can match gusau mecham in the fourth quarter with just width right. Because gasoil can't jump you know so. He's glacial but glacial works against yokich because yokich can't jump and yokich isn't that quick. He's just what you need to just get in his way and stay in his way and he can't you know why gosol bothers him because yoke use athleticism against you if you'll be true going and laid up buddy got so he ain't going to. We'd like well still right here. Okay so i'm giving vogues no credit for that because it was a desperation move because the big penguin got his fourth foul in the. Here's the other thing. Also we saw last year. We know trae has kept bother. Yoke now saw that in games. Five six and seven which clip with the clippers. So we know that's not a favorable matthew fact that's probably the single biggest reason that mantras is no longer. A clipper was though those three games against that guy right because what he gives you. Offense when you play the guy like yoke skip. You've got to basically match him gotta be somewhere around twenty five thirty points to match. Because that's what yolks go give you. He will give you twenty five to thirty. He was gonna give you somewhere. Eight nine rebounds eight nine percents so you need an offensive guy that if you can't shut him hold him down to below that you need to match those numbers. Well that's what is gonna give you twelve fourteen points that's not enough so saul came in space. Deploy hit some threes now gestalt inside the closer now the lanes going to be open a little more but they got into the bonus would like four and a half five minutes left and the lake of shooting jumpers. Get your blood on the blah. Good point but how did they suddenly surge to a fourteen point. Lead the lakers early in the fourth. Quarter wesley matthew. Along with gosol. Why did wesley matthews get into the game. Because there's no shooters down the protocol if the has covert or whatever but they're saying ten to fourteen days so i'm assuming he has he probably has probably has. I don't know that for fact but probably so so all. The sudden wesley matthews has not played a game in five of the last. Six games is d. n. p. I forgot he was on the lakers. And all of a sudden he and gonzalo or on the floor and neither is played much lately and what happened. They go on an eleven to nothing run. Thanks to those. Two guys. Both assisting each other and making threes and wesley at one up and under for another allan. Hi may ask you. There's no doubt one. So i can't give vogues any credit because he was forced to go because he had no schreuder so all the sudden to unknown to to has been to forgotten men come in and lead them on a charged where they're up fourteen points with eight twenty three left and then you know the rest. The story here came denver. Because they're went votes. He had to put his starters back in have to well. And you're all over him for. Yes so why would you look. I think we've seen coaches in the past. We saw it in in cleveland one year. They made that comeback without carrying cable love on the floor member. They was down by twenty. Something points lebron and the second unit entire lose like they balling. We're with a lead them in. Why why would you do that. You see europe. Drumming is struggling. He's struggling offensively. He's struggling defense contain yolk. Why would you put him back in. Why would you put back door. Do they let them let arrive. Horton tucker only guys get. He's the guy that can take the ball and get his shot he goes he goes into he lane. Now you'll have to take two or three trips. God he goes he can get there. Oh i will come back come again. And that's what i love about him. You're going to make some mistakes. The young players twenty one years of age But you understand why that they wouldn't include him in that trade for kyle lowry schreuder. Casey p would have been in toronto. Had this is okay. We'll take shooter in case ep. Y'all keep talker. Were insisted on ducker and the lakers wouldn't budge bet. So you better. This way. Like i like i like to talk not to worry about is all of that five into five see i call him big play but look. I love what i saw from. Ad you gotta admit a. This was the most aggressive. We've seen a decent been back by the way in the fourth quarter. Last night was one of five with one. Rebound you like that. No with the fire. Shut the floater. Everything were jump shot. Okay get your blood on the block. Foul trouble the gap. You in the bonus gets hardly at your but on the block when there's a bigger but taking out the block belonging to the big penguin a good fit for your team in a situation like that skip. Gonzalo had gordon into four so now leave saul compla- off a just fine because gestalt can go past. You likes issued three right become shoots no three. I'm taking one some point. The shock law But look at is already back. They're not back but it was a huge win. They got something they can hang their hat on. When you don't make shots if you guard the other team you force them to take more difficult shots in now you can keep the state's on what close because they weren't playing if they hadn't got this big lead skilton a tight ballgame type ball game. You go five minutes without scoring. You will lose. But you're gonna lose by double digits and that's what we've seen over the last two games. Okay go these long stretch of toronto. And now they basically get blown out these long stretch of against sacramento and they ended up moving a close ball guy so they hung on in the end. Thanks in part to the referees. Same day said. We can't have the lakers missing the playoffs. Why why are you doing. You're doing so. Well gave him giving us credit unions. Like okay this all came in. You had a match got coming into it. Well western matthew was doing his thing and then you had to play pre take all that away and blame officials. We don't do that here skill. We don't blame officials. i would suggest you. That was a season win. Upset victory over the team that had been the best in the west over the last couple three weeks right victim. Pozo blond side block eighty. He he was just running. He just finishing out where you're really. Yeah he he's a little mighty might accidentally step on him. Still you know you walk in. You're not paying attention to somebody like that. Skews you look down my way. I'm sorry. I stepped on the doodo. Wanna do toby walk into cbs. He bumped into me. Tell about watch walkie okay. So the point is in the bigger picture. I think last night will speed lebron's recovery. Yes it will. Yes it will say who. Think i gotta get back to be a part of this now. They don't play again until thursday. I can see him guests who they play on thursday. Yeah skill we don't look at the schedule. Played a schedule. Who we don't look at it. Now come up. you're gonna have to deal with us. Hey real worry about that now. You can look down because the team in the basement is coming up stairs to play you quote unquote your floor. They have three games in four days. The likelihood of lebron playing probably before saturday sunday is not very good. Oh you think he'll. Doc ducked still ducking what we know about. Lebron lebron james about sixty five seventy percent in the second half basically. The ankle rented him useless. Lebron i don't care if lebron lebron james of not close to one hundred percent. They're not going anywhere playoff number one number two. It does not matter. You know that everybody in the basketball community no then without lebron bullying being close to one. Hundred percent the lakers doing zilch. Last night was a survival. Game for your lakers. Thursday night is a statement game for the clippers. So you better be ready for this. I put an extra case on skill first of all four of winning a championship last year. Steel murder how ended up it. What do you see the streamers. Y'all got framers. What are you all need stream issue. We don't need streamers we're about to own that building thursday. Yeah well do you want to go to seoul leslie matthews. i got to get rid. Clinton vinegar set up from georgia. Put that on the brian laying on the ankle. I think he needs anything. He just filed it. S q victory back. They're going there. But yes the clippers will be challenging coming up this week. I have no doubt we will get to. We will continue talking about it until they play each other. No mercy wizards head coach. Scott brooks called russell westbrook the second best point guard in nba history. Right behind magic johnson after their one fifty four to one forty one win last night. Westbrook scored fourteen points but the racked up twenty one rebounds and twenty four assists in the process so shannon is westbrook. The second best point guard adver note. And what. He's i've never seen anybody play as hard as russell westbrook night in and night out. Possession and possession now agreed. Nobody's even close now. So i don't care you go back with this guy played in the. No one has played harder every possession every single night the russell westbrook aim in. But he's not the so. So how the hell. He just joke steph curry. Oh can we. We know we know magic. Magic is be oracle magic. The mythical point guard that you know the championship three final two. Three regular-season vp. He's by himself and he's six feet gift curry. I know scotty brooks is in the east. And he's doing everything he possibly along with. Ross and bradley beal to get this team into the plea is he not see what steph curry doing the other side on the other side of the world does not see what stephanie do it has nothing was steph has done steph is going to find the nba finals. He's won three. he's a two time league. Mvp brought my estimation. He's the second greatest guard over. That's why have steph curry now. Is rush hour. Put russia in my top five but you are available to the team to the nba finals in the east wind of big celtics were big and ban. He bill and what about so a i just a outlook. I know that team took to had no business being in the finals skill. They had no business. Taking a game out the lakers. Now the only game the lakers lost in the playoff skill. Roth is what he's doing. Two hundred seventy seven now. It seems like now. He doesn't have to do anything he's going to avenue triple double for the fourth time and i think five years great. That's a great accomplishment skill. But he's not better than steph steph. Transcended the game steph changed. The game staff has more accolades individual and team wise so rossi top by point guard. I will give you that but to say he's the second best in front of steph curry absolutely not no way. No how okay. I hear everything you just said. I agree with just about everything you just said. But i will give russell westbrook this on any given night his ceiling in numbers that he can generate raw playing his tail off numbers as a point. Guard are completely off the charts. You can make a case there beyond anything magic could have produced. I'm talking raw numbers. Yeah i'm talking about playing with such rage that you were capable remember this year. He has three games of forty plus scoring forty plus points. He had forty two of forty two and he put up forty one head to head with k. d. in brooklyn when katie had thirty-seven. So he said. I'm gonna outscore you for everyone and thirty seven. Is he capable of doing that. Yes yes is anybody else. On the top point guard list quite capable of doing that will we can go here. And there was some of them but man like john. Stockton is the greatest. A sister ever can't score like that. I'm not even sure magic. What magic can have a night here and there. But he didn't have consistently like this okay and then last night i just gotta say these numbers out loud just to get to have them cycler but wait a second. You had twenty one rebounds and twenty four assists it's impossibly great their raw hard gut check number that only he could produce again. If we're just talking numbers. I'll put him up at the again. Managing is mad. He's just how he's he's in a universe unto himself. Because i got him the second best player of all time. So i can't go above magic but if we just do raw productivity. I'll put him second. I get that. That's what scott brooks coached forever. Because he coached him in oklahoma city so he sees liens. He sees up close and personal every night. I'm sure he's like you. It's back says. I never see things like this. Okay now to the bottom line. If i went to one. Excuse me if. I want to win one game for my life one game for my life do i want russ's my point. No no i'll put him in. He might not make my top twenty. I'm talking about if this is it. Gimme rondo to win the game. You don't like we'll figure it out for sure he will or give me stockton or certainly give me magic or i can keep going deep. Nash give me for that matter. Tony parker if we go modern day i can go see three can go steph as you point out if i go old school. Gimme oscar. gimme cousy. I just keep isaiah. I give you all of the above if you just want to win the game by putting your position in the best putting your team in the best position to win right. It's anybody bought. Russ because i'm going to remind everybody on april the fifth this team featuring russ and bradley beal april fifth. They were seventeen and thirty two. That's fifteen games under five hundred well of late. guess what. They've won eleven of thirteen and they have soared all the way up to the scene. So they're in the play in as we speak. They're only four games back right now of boston for the seven so all the sudden thanks to russ and bradley beal. They are on fire. But what is rust doing now. He's not shooting the basketball. So what did not a shot eight times. do you realize it's it's the tied for the fewest shots. He's taken in his career. There's one game in two thousand sixteen when he still had and oklahoma city. They went up one milwaukee they just they won eight and he took only eight shots in that game so how many times does russ take shots. Well he he had going in the assists category. This is what i've always said about russell. Westbrook he has a rage to star more than a rage to win. So he's all about the numbers and he's keeping tabs in his head or somebody on the benches. Tell them how you've got fifteen since you've got and says you've got twenty assists. He's like i got assist assist assist because he wants the totals because he's on the best playmaker in basketball us. What he said are the game last night. okay well. He realized that his team had it going so he doesn't need to shoot. How many three point shots did he take last night about a big zero right. You know why. Because he's terrible three point she's thirty one percent from three right now he's only sixty four percent for the free throw line so when when i do top point guard well doesn't that. Isn't that part and parcel of what you get. You have to shoot a few threes. you'd like to your point. Your point guard could make thirty five percent of skip. We've ever seen a point guard like you said the sheer volume. That could rebound the ball. Mound could not like he could and can score like he can't yeah. Steph kirk is gorlic. Rose daimler can score like magic. Could assist russia could but i don't know if he could get rebound in scoreline rose so russ the combination scoring rebounding assisting russ is it but when you talk to complete body. He's not better than steph curry spins this. What people don't understand about step step is played in five. Nba finals. Do you realize curry's averaging twenty seven points a game in those finals. He's averaging fixed and six rebounds part. What i it's hard for me to consider steph a point guard. I'm sorry but he he just the greatest shooter ever and that's what he does. Best like six assists to me. That's that's let's seems low but that's eight four day. Okay i got dame dame can get hot event anybody. He can't assist the ball. He can't rebound the ball. Like russ. okay but okay. Russ's leading the league in assists again. You realize he's on course. Now if close this deal he will have led this league in assists three of the last four. Yes twelve tonight. Which is absurd. He's he's eleven if you look at this. Basically they said look. You don't play defense. We're not gonna play defense. We go to malls scale team. Washington shot fifty one percent forty percent from three yup indiana shot fifty percent from the floor fifty two percent from three poco game one fifty four one forty one. The help lead defense okay. So basically there is all the layoffs okay. Indiana gave up by far the most points. They've given up all year. The second worst was one forty one fifty four so they're ranked eleventh in defensive efficiency so they're not terrible defensive team. Don't don't underestimate what russ did to them. And don't underestimate. What bradley beal did to this. You think about it everybody. The only caches winston. He only played twelve seconds. But if you played more than more than a minute. Everybody had double figures. One guy didn't roll nettle. He had nine points. I'll never skip it up. And i'm like how did you get one. So i'm i've never seen this thing. I've never seen anything like this skill. I've never seen this guy. Getting double figures. Play this much. Okay this is a big game for both teams. They're fighting for that ten right correct. Bonus bonus unbelievable players. He had thirty twenty. Did okay. so but but again. Indiana doesn't routinely give up one hundred mil so you gotta give him some credit and look at this russia's averaging only nineteen shots per game which for him is lowered his career while bradley beal is leading the league at twenty three attempts per game right so he is deferring to bradley. Be right because brennan's tried to win that scoring title. Okay so he's going so he's going to get some assists and he's just a tick behind steph steph. Had a big night again tonight. Let's give look. I understand when you're you're close to the accurate like wow. This is special. And i'm not going to do because the triple double for him. It's not like he's getting like ten rebounds skip get nineteen getting twenty rebounds is not like you've just getting tennessee escapees eighteen twenty two sisters. He's getting big ball number. Okay i will give him credit for that but he's not. he's not a better player. he's not point guard. Melissa there because that's what they in the program so i'm gonna go by the program it's better than steph. I'm sorry he's not okay. I got it. So why did kevin durant choose to leave oklahoma city and russell westbrook and join forces with a team that they had down three to run right in the western conference final right. Here's what happened when they were down. I'm sorry up three to one over golden state here. The shot attempts in the last three games. They lost by nine seven and eight. Those three games. Oklahoma city did russell. The first loss to twenty-eight shots to kevin's thirty one then russell took twenty-seven to kevin's thirty one and then the last game russell took twenty one shots and k. d. only nineteen so real close for the three games total but in the game seven. The big one. Rust took more shots than k. d. And that's when i believe katie said. Hey i'm out of here. Because i can't win a championship primary decision-maker every time down to beat him to the point. Russell i'll let you take the most shot games five and six thirty one. God i notice you never mentioned that before. Oh you talking about. Oh all steph curry in the nba finals. Look at what he did. He did this this this law in the in the before. it got to the finals. Young guy that you say the basket on the planet gathered up number one lead interesting babies deal and guess what he said. Well i don't care what the nba world says to me. I don't care what shannon sharpe thanks. I'm just going to golden state. And he went. And what does he got show for it to rings in two thousand and you can't beat them join them second. He joined anyone for them skill. It worked out for both parties. Nobody could feel like they're slighted. Y'all needed them as much as they needed him. It worked out well for everybody. But russ i love what i love the energy and the passionate which he plays with. But i can't go scotty brooks. I can't say he's the second best point guard. I got stepped in front of him. Now if you wanna debate. Say oscar really see oscar play. I know oscars numbers. He won a championship with kareem. In milwaukee. i watched allen iverson his whole career so we wanted to ask you for isaiah. 'cause i was really the first point guard skills to lead a team to the nba. Final other than magic but magic was six nine six one so he was the first. He went to post great finals against the big debate. Three celtics okay. I got all that. But you agreed with me on raw productivity. There's never been anything like no point guard can do. Yeah skip what was happening now because of the is like. We're gonna have a lot of quarterbacks that are gonna have sixty or seventy five yards and the old guard is going to be thirty thousand ebola. Man he was like stop. Stop playing because matthew stafford. Don't be scared when he's also. Matthew stafford may have eighty five yards. Yeah maybe not win anything so at the end of the day a i love what russ has been able to do. And when a lot of people thought his career was dayton he's resurrected. He's playing like the old rust. Scotty brooks allow him to be russell with everybody else. Tried to say well. We need you to play like this. In order to fit the system he compromised a lot less. James heart he did. Now you see that we thought last three or four years and okay see. This is in with the wizards. But i can't go there. I can't go. i got it. But this is russell's thirteenth season. And i keep waiting for him to show some wear and tear because he plays so hard. He is not slowing down. One in never question has ethic at all notes out. We got to leave it for now and talk a little bit about jerry jones. He's got a lot to say he's excited about the defensive hall. They got in the draft and jokingly calling the draft class a quote basketball team due to the average height being just a hair under six foot. Four the shod right. The second of three corners taken by the cowboys is confident in his link. Saying this i kind of look at myself like a more athletic agile. richard sherman. How africa shedded wellbeing taller and longer at work for the cowboys. Suck skin basketball team. I'm thinking maybe like washington generals younger audience killed. They don't get but you know who are. They were the team that lost all the games to the harlem. Globetrotter got to do with anything. Just because you got guys dot or the height and the lynn of sherm brandon browner. That doesn't mean you gotta get the productivity. Does that richard sherman like have like a hall of fame resume. I think he does. I mean i think he's probably gonna be in the whole thing so he's up so in other words. I know oregon heat from morgan state. He's up there in the northwest. So he knows. When richard sherman. I don't know if he knows who he is. But i don't know if he knows he needs to go. Pull out some tape. Oh serm and and just hope he has has half the career as herm. he'll be renault all about sherm. Seattle just can't help himself. Well i got so basketball player. You playing football candidate play football. You know they toll. I know the order. Land that we wanna live. We challenge i get all of that but at the end of the big is still got to play all the sides speed strength. Become down the kid you play put. The i've seen some of the guys that look like bridge five apparent squad and complete their the horror movie. And i see some guys. You like put down with terrible iraq shop. Tom brady is more is more to play football. They look like a football player. And i pay jerry. Thanks guys at six three and a half two hundred two hundred ten pound as long and angular. Got up for y'all this year. Okay but guess what you still got to play in a game. I don't care what you look like. you're gonna have to play. And i guarantee you when they got man man. Look tall that team. You don't know how we will get up with the shot today playing football. Look at those long arms. You'll understand what dan quinn won't dan quayle gonna play their single high safety would what we call lert. They jumped across the rows. And all that you need guy. There's going to be able to tell it because you know you wanna make you. That's what tv won't big body fever. That's why guys won't big body corners. Okay i get that but at the end of the day. Can you play football year. That's what it comes down to give. You will give you watch them on tape. You want to match you say three to five can run can jump. Can he played football. Okay so to echo what you just said just for the record. I learned my football from the great bill. Walsh i thought it was the greatest coach ever. I learned a whole lot of football from the great tom. Landry and i learned a whole lot more football from one of the greatest defensive coaches ever jimmy johnson who works for this network not one time in all my many years of learning about the game you played. Did i ever hear length. I never heard. I never heard height or length like it just didn't matter. They came in all sizes. It's about your heart and your gift in your desire. It's just it's not on 'cause he wouldn't fix for you didn't want one time because he ain't big four there had been tall corners. Mike canes is a great one is now blunt long and tall but strong. Yes played more press. That made them change. The rule. Five yard ruled came in the mail. They can come in that yes they can come in little side. There's a little man who played for washington remember that little man degree narrow green is like what like five nine what he was another smaller right there hall of fame. You can do it a lot of different way right. So here's what. I think just happened. Jerry jones hired mike mccarthy and he gave him carte blonde she said you pick your staff you pick your coordinating and you know what mike did. He reached back into his past for mike. Nolan who wants voter time had given him. Job is an offensive coordinator when mike was the head coach in san francisco. So of nepotism not exactly related but football related. Where i owe you. I'm going to get you paid. I'm going to get you. I'm gonna pull you out of mothballs app out of the addict. I'm going to dust you off. And i'm going to give you the defensive coordinator job of the dallas cowboys. America's team and shannon disaster from the start every free agent that jerry had handpicked rebelled on him turned on him to the point that at midseason jerry had to say i gotta clean house. Because i got a mutiny. Oh my hands locker room. So every one of those free agents gone gone gone gone because they said this is not the way you do it in wrestling because they'd all had success other place under other coach. So jerry said okay mic. I gave you your shot. Now it's my turn. And he goes out and takes the guy who happens to be on the open market. This guy's name is dan quinn. And what had happened to dan. Quinn in washington. Well he became the head coach in two thousand fifteen and he is a defensive coach because he earned his spurs. He gained his fame. Coaching the legion. Abhu greg wait a second. Did he pick those players and mould those flares into what they know. No was the original architect critically so it was already in motion and emplaced when dan quinn took all jars mount. Mp carol pick those play okay. Thank you very much so just quickly to show you the background of one dan quinn. He played at salisbury state maryland. Fine i'll give you that. And he's from morristown new jersey. But then he goes to william and mary as an assistant and via my and hofstra for awhile but finally he gets mariuchi and san francisco to hire him as though quality control coach. Where you know what that is. That's still bottom in guy. Who just he's he. Does the legwork staple and papers together you playing okay but it got him in the door of the nfl and then he goes. The dolphins and the jesse goes briefly to seattle with jim mora and then he goes to florida college football with must champ. Who's a close friend of his the dc and then he goes back to seattle and you know the rest of that legion of boom story for twenty thirteen and fourteen and then here he comes to atlanta here. His defensive ranks in points allowed. While he's with the atlanta falcons. He's overseeing the he's effectively be as the dc atlanta ranks starting twenty fifteen fourteenth twenty-seventh than eight twenty fifth twenty and in the last year. Twenty twenty last year nineteenth. So that's an average of ranking nineteenth in the nfl in points allowed in somehow your guru of really even in the year they got to super bowl they ranked twenty seven hundred. And it was matt ryan in the bombs away to leo so my question is if you will type of defensive player you wanna long angular guy. Why didn't you get those in atlanta. And if you did why would any none like that in atlanta that i know of no one. I don't wanna uk. But from what. I know of dan quinn. He is very charismatic. In can be very overpowering. One on one. He has a little bit of faith healer fitness guru type in public speaker. He's very impressive. And once he sat with jerry jerry completely over and he brought his little magic kit in and convince jerry get longer than taller get longer and jerry swallowed it whole because jerry can be very impressionable young in flavor of the month jerry just as we always have fallen love. Mike mccarthy got josh gerald he in love right overnight. They had a long. You know beer and not just session. Jerry's palatial state in highland park. Yes and that was the rest of that and they signed him at sunup after a long time to go. Jerry julian day what are you what are you. What are you waiting for. Okay so here comes dan. Quinn and jerry has swallowed this whole. Let's let's dan quinn. Run free agency and run the draft in effect because in free agency there. Too key signees. We're off dan quinn's defense from last year in atlanta. He got fired because they felt the owen. Five and what did they do. Game number two at gerry world. They're up twenty nine to ten at halftime and they blow it in the second half and lose forty two thirty nine thirty thirty nine to twenty and you lost and that's why you pretty quickly got fi- and then you're going to be the save your of dallas defense will. It can't be any worse than it was last year. Because i think it was the worst in franchise talking about they give three hundred eight yards rushing to cleveland at home and then they had three more plus two hundred yards out more washington on monday nights. Give you the look this notion that if that was the case every that could run four two would be dion sanders. A darryl green we. That's not the case. At the end of the day you have to play take speed. Ariza wall barely cracked four seven. But with an all pro league in exemptions well he's undrafted out of grandkids so skip this notion speedo. They tall this and that at the end of the day. Yup tell me this. I don't want to know how tall. I don't want to know how much you weigh. How fast he can run. Kenny play football. Good football right so jerry. Let dan quinn bring with him. From that remembered the atlanta pass defense was the fifth worst in the history of this league and he brings with him kiana. Neil and demonte qazi the two safeties. What and. I'm supposed to be happy with that. And then he lets him in every round. Take the guy who had the longest arms seriously every round every pick their the tallest average almost six four and they all have the longest arms their position. And i'm saying this is comedy no seriously it. If it if it weren't so sad i would be laughing at because it's just you could feel free to laugh at. You never heard anything like this before. say i'll skip. I understand that you want a certain type. I mean looking for three technique. You want a guy this explosive. I mean aaron. Donald is basically prototypical for three. Take me normally the gathered. Little big aaron. You wanted to get like a warren sapp. You wanted somebody like a johnny ramdan. Green made the under tackle. So you look for a given. Because aaron donald is six foot. Six one to seventy five to eighty. That doesn't mean. I'm not gonna take it because he's not warrants. Apple mean joe greene because he doesn't pit prototypical. If i wanna get prototypical. I won't six four. Yeah and that's what. I'm looking bored so we will buy six boy got better. Take i get the concept of that as a defensive end if you can reach farther you can hang on and gave the tackle. Would i get to where you can reach. Tackle the ring back. And i get it certainly at corn safety because if you're playing zone i'm sure they're gonna play a whole lot zone the longer your arms the tighter the window could get or i get my hands on. I wanna get my hands on. If i'm playing press coverage. Can you write kid from oregon state. Is he really richer. I like the audacity of it like the swagger of it right and they're all coming in like we got this well. You cannot be any worse than you were last right the you when you play. If you look at sherm the way he played sherm understand that. I don't have four three so four four speed. No so what i need to do. I need to beat. I need to be a student of the game. He did in early insurance. Re you couldn't be sharm. Beat you could double move him. You remember you had to the best safety. Maybe the best safeties in pro football and right and he understood where he was weak. He understood where you where he was voluble and he never played his weakness the only place to his strength. He didn't get caught up into that. Will you wanna press. I pressed him. Rivas went back and forth. Will you don't travel short. Look i played my eight co says you lined up over here you go play this coverage you play it well so he doesn't get caught up in all that other stuff we're going to see how well they study. 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Lebron said that whoever came up with the idea of the new playoff system should be fired while nba fans were quick to point out that in march of two thousand twenty twenty lebron's tone about the playoff games was much different. Supporting the idea at the time. So take a listen for yourself so we got all. Then you've got methods you got new orleans it also in sacramento taken around there. So you know there's five or ten games left. Why not defy hotline that those guys valid. how about. This lake didn't play other off five. Dan's her team games or or find a way where they have. You know if you're gonna make the playoffs line play a team. That's in front of your behind. You can't get away from anything now. On social media someone finds it shannon. How does this make laurent luck and make him look bad at all because it's different situation. Remember march they. Nbs shut down. There was a pandemic so there they have played sixty five games so they were seventeen. Eighteen nineteen gave lipped so basically they said okay. We're going to resume the season but it's going to be in a bubble environment. So now here's skip. I'm right there so we go down there. Play five games six games. He said hold on. Wait a minute if that close why not just let those teams play each other. Therefore that will decide it. There's a totally different situation. We being game there have been no games miss every team. Don't play seventy two gave. You had seventy two opportunities. That's a totally different than having eighty two games in having the season shutdown a totally different situation. So they took what he's saying about okay. This even been shut these two or three hundred fourteen. That a right there. What is led those teams play. Each other for tenths to go to the playoff skip. This is all about money. You and i both old enough to remember when the first round of the basketball playoff with the best. Two out of three in the next round was the best three to five. It wasn't only conference. Finals parnell's was the best water seven. But it don't mean heck. I'm old enough to win. The finals was on tape delay at eleven thirty at night. Mazza game was on tape. Yup great rookie. So wait a minute. Why would we only do three games. We do several skit. We could make a little bit more money. What we say with the. Nfl's skip what we had. After playoff game extra great revenue. What if we asked atta extra regular season game baseball. What did they do skip. They got this. Play it so this was about this about no fun. This is about adding revenue. I get that but if you look at what lebron said when he said it bursts right now he's home. We don't play saturday games. In one hundred forty five days coming up the shortest refugees and in the history of professional sports. In that you won't guy the play more. The advocate opportunity to the playoffs. I got no problem with what he's saying. Because once you get back and you look at it when he said it. Because i thought the way they would pro-trade they made. It seem like he said yesterday. No this was during the pandemic and he's like hold on. I season cut short. There's some teams is going to be very unfortunate. Because there was a lot of situations they might not going to be playing. You see what the nfl did they started. Having to divisional games at the you gotta play in the cowboys playing the giant cowboy of playing washington. Yeah eagles things of that nature because what was happening guys who teams arrested. It mean anything. We wanted to mean something week. Sixteen weeks seventy. We want it to mean something. So i have no problem with lebron said once you go back and look at what. He's saying how we the context in which he's trying to explain it. It makes perfect sense. The season was cut short by pandemic team. That was like hold on. And we right there. And we're gonna make the playoffs. I played a game. We could've called him. He's just have them play each other. And that way we determine now ain't no pandemic you played seventy two games. You make you make if you don't go okay. Before i answer jen's question i will tell you that there are three different lebron's that we often talk about on the show. There's lebron just the basketball player mirror simple end of story. I'm often critical of lebron. Just the basketball player. And i think sometimes you're not critical enough but that's a whole nother issue but that's not guy then. There's a lebron who campaigns racial justice in this country. And i never have anything critical to say about that guy because he is the best ever at that then. There's a third lebron hat that he has to wear as the face of the nba and he almost like an owner in the nba. He has that much clout that much impact. He doesn't often exercise that cloud. Sometimes you sit back and say we're doing what but it's a huge hat that he wears with huge responsibility because obviously when he speaks about this league we listen absolutely. He's it he he's in year eighteen so he's not in year four or five where he's still trying to figure out how it all work together. He's a full grown man. Who is the biggest brightest mind in this league it to me. It's it's beyond adam. Silver's mind's ability to see and feel what works or doesn't work in this league. And i always want to know. What does he think in the end when they are in the bubble to play or not to play any of those big decisions facing the league. I just to know what he has to say when they had that emergency meeting. That was a friday night where they all convened by the hotel after the bucks had said. No you know we're not gonna play could moshe kenosha sa- kenosha and everybody. They just waited for him to speak because whatever he said and he wouldn't speak at the meeting but he went back to his room remember. He didn't wanna play. You wanted it to opt out the rest of the bubble rumour elmore and they call president. Obama eighty-three they called him. They did and a bunch of players reconvene at his hotel room. And then you know the rest of the store and they went so in this case to me. It was a sign of rare immaturity on his part he was so frustrated not just by his knee but they just lost a too bad teams at horrid too bad teams playing without their stars at staples and they lost kind of miserably both games and obviously missed the last shot in the first game and he had air balled three. He's just frustrated. Wasn't working in. They look kind of stuck in mud. Their whole team looks stuck in mud and he said well i'm not seeing his burst he can't push off. The frustration was at an all time high post championship for this team. Right and laker nation is to hysteria levels and so he just couldn't contain himself and it's whoever came up with. That should be fired right right right and you can't say that because i don't care he did have a give him credit for the original idea. I get your point. The context was completely different. I got i got you. You're exactly right. And i'm not. I'm giving him a pass for that. So i'm not going to hold his feet to the fire over what he said on road trip and twitch okay. I got it but the beauty of it was he. He's onto something great it. It's great it worked. It was captivating. I liked it. I'm looking forward to it now. That's all we talk about. Who's the play seventy nine. We'll wait wait. They're they're about to fall into the plane. It's fun is it fair now. That's not really fair. Baseball's got it to just like when you play hundred sixty two to play one. A and and i think that's the things is like that got interrupted. You should have eighty two games. Seventy two games. That should be enough game to determine who are the best eighteen. I don't believe you need to play a game that you want to generate revenue. That's what it is if you can't determine the nfl plays sixteen game. Seventeen games now do determine the best seventy that make the playoffs. They're not have you know y'all with y'all whip five hundred so now we will have y'all to play five hundred to get an extra. That's not how you do it. Sixteen seventy seventeen thousand sixteen games. Well enough eighty two games. The were they know. Seventy two is enough to determine sure the best eighteen so lebron is saying that last year with a unique set of circumstances but the nba on a unique set of circumstances is the income tax give. They started taxes. Do you we. We could put an acre. Thank you gotta pay. And it never went away. What a good idea. So now the aba started something to try to generate get recoup some revenue in the bubble in is never going away important. You lebron unfortunately bro. I don't believe this is going to go away okay. Is the nba not an entertainment. Is the plan entertaining. Does it enhance the product. Yes it does. Are we going to talk about it on undisputed. You better believe we are. We're not going on at it. We're not going to ignore. It is interesting but you do believe seventy to eighty two games enough to determine eight fifteen. I got it. But i. I liked the novel new concept. It doesn't bore me. It doesn't offend me. I'm good with it in all the league needs is for somebody to come out of that ten seed and start rising up and knocking teams off. What happened is the started this bull jive when it had to play a game because kipp memory was just sixty four ot think depart. They expanded the feeling where eighty four eighty five expanded the sixty four and then all of a sudden the last ten year they to play a game so we got one team and then you get to stop it but some of those teams. I don't even know. And i don't care enough about but i do care about the ucla within the play in the nba would need to validate the new premise. They would need one team to few in one game. You got to win four games to advance in a situation do you to go to the nba finals which obviously after they lost sacramento all of a sudden. It became painfully. Where lebron that wait a second. We're in the mix for the in and it's also possible. We won't even make the playoffs. We continue at this right. So he dismisses it and yet as a quasi owner he has to understand that the owners voted on this adam. Silver voted unanimously. And i know lucas started the he he was the first one to break through. And say this is a bunch of baloney. Cuban back among all here voted for it and not only had. He voted for it. He'd actually campaign public support. But he said i gotta have the bag and he had his muskie owner look. I'm sure there are things that michael jordan. The player that he thinks totally different. I as an owner yup lebron broad we all know the brown wants to be an ownership so he the way he thinking. Now i can assure you he's not going to think that way. The player is just like an employee. Once you think one way of an employee but once you own your own business you think your brother off a lot different as opposed to working for someone have opposed to working for him. So that's a big difference. But i agree with lebron. I think this is a very different circumstance than what we had going on last march of twenty twenty. Hopefully we will have that anytime soon. Ever ever how about plume ever again my life. Yup but for me. I don't have a problem with lebron as i get it. Seventy two basically. They're playing a game every other day. They're gonna play seventy two games in one hundred and forty five days. Nobody has any sympathy now. Odell beckham junior's still recovering from his tornado. Seattle but so far. The process looks good. According to a video posted by does bryant does posted a video. Vj running sprints to twitter saying that the browns receiver is looking real scary. This will be his best. Your yet shannon If he's healthy is auberge still elite in your is i've been i've been in contact with hotel over the last couple of months and one thing you say. Just make sure you put out there. I'm going to be healthy. He's last year the haven't been healthy. I broke my ankle. Sports hernia thome mesa last year with missed the last four games while not mistaken last year. New york's guilt with a with a quad injury. So if he's healthy. I know what he's still only twenty eight years of age. That's what people to realize he got onto that. That blockbuster started four. I four years with as good as any receiver in the nfl. As far as catches yards and touchdown and then he was perceived besieged by injuries But if he's healthy there's no question in my mind because he can run the route tree. He's tremendous yard catch and we are no he can catch the football as good as anybody ever has in the nfl. The question can kenny get back to a level of skill. I mean you look at an acl. Sports hernia well quad. Injury broke his ankle. That's the succession seventeen. Eighteen nineteen twenty. So as many years he's been in the league healthy he had just that many years unhealthy. The that's the only thing now. He might have to go elsewhere. Become for whatever reason health had a lot to do with it he and baker has not clicked. They have liked the brow had hoped when they when they gave up the first round draft. Pick to bring to cleveland. But there's no question in my mind that if odio beckham's healthy he's still a top flight. Receiver can't get back to that and can't he and baker get on the same page so he can show just want a complete receiver that he is even bigger question. Can he stay healthy because his history would tell you unfortunately no getting one thing staying healthy something entirely different. What just happened with my guide. Leighton vander esch wolf fund. Well what do you always tell me. I just can't stay healthy healthy so they declined his fifth year obligate which means he'll play in dallas next year but he's playing for a new contract and plus you drop. Mike parsons so no one surprised by that. Okay it's all about staying healthy correct especially if you start to have an injury history. Great okay so. I appreciate the fact that you talked to odell. I like odell personally. Good heart still apartment. That i hope can grow up and understand what matters in this game because you did. Leadership matters some sacrifice matters. He has a whole lot of sacrifice. We're odell wants to be an nba star and you just can't be an nba star in. The nfl doesn't work at that position to make it successful. It's dependent upon a thousand things that happen at the snap of the ball. It's the coverage it's the business like it's a thousand things that go into it. it's little movement. You might get it. You might not get it and you have to be happy that you're winning if you're not getting enough of the targets. So here's all. I know about odell against my dallas cowboys in new york on a sunday or new jersey. Obviously on sunday night he made the greatest catch in the history of catches. All the greatest unbelievable brandon used car. Your favorite corner. Right and i immediately tweeted. Greatest catch ever is even a flag on the play. Okay and that put rookie odell beckham junior on the national map. My put them on the international map and that seemed to be the peak of his career. If you look back you say well then what happened well. He love little minor incidents like immaturity. Incidents rights on the field tantrums. Off the field on the sideline and the bottom line is that in games. He's played during the regular season. His teams are thirty six and forty six so he has consistently been able to be a part of winning at any stage. He did make it to one playoff game and we all know what happened before that plath game they ended up in washington and he invited a couple two three of the other receivers on the giants to accompany him down to miami for a day off and on south beach or i guess they were biscayne bay. On your was it was a trey songz. There's a high forget but the point was it was not a good look posted on social and that was to get ready for a playoff game on the frozen tundra at lambeau field and right away in that game. It's eli versus german air. Rogers big early third down is big early drop by odell and it hit him right in the hands and he just dropped it and that's no good and here's the one in in zone later. Where he just that's a touchdown and he dropped out to make you just got to make those plays you. Can you can go to south beach to get ready for a game on the frozen tundra if you if you play you gotta make the place. And he didn't make those two plays in. It looked bad. And then he blew up after the game swung. His helmet knocked a hole in the wall of the the way to go into the locker room the hallway. Okay great. so that's your one playoff game. You've got eleven targets in that game. You caught four balls for twenty eight yards in. Your team lost thirty eight to thirteen. I thought the giants had a chance in that game. Early on ilab was hot and a few passing it. And i think that's all part of growing up. Learn from mistakes and how to deal with it and you're gonna have you're gonna have naysayers you're going to have people that don't believe in you have to believe in you and just stay. The course and i think understands that now is taking some time. Sometimes it takes you know. It takes people some people long mature than other. They take some people longer to figure it out. It's like okay. it can't be my way. Okay so what do we see last year week seven at cincinnati. Unfortunately he got hurt but fortunately for the browns. they took off right after. That was a coincidence or not. I think baker was forced feeding the ball to odell because he idolizes odell off the field. He thinks he's a superstar. Loves to associate with him and hang with him and enforcing him. The ball. Just messed everything. Up brown st about the The thing the thing is for me is that. I don't think there is close off the field as you do. I think the thing is because dale is one of the few receiver. They could overshadow quarterback their receivers. I've never been able to do that. He's one of them and he came in with the cachet. He has the the big puerto followers. He gets the most money. Endorsement money from nike. So he he berry unique individual and he's one of the few that has a bigger name recognition than the quarterback. Okay so for me i. i'm not so sure. Maybe they but had on that. I don't know what it is but for whatever reasons baker and odeal hasn't been able to connect like cleveland. They or even. I thought they were. Because we all thought we made. If it had a bit of quarterback and i guess you know they'll probably figure not wasn't that bad up all would give the opportunity. I would agree but what happened to baker. After week seven. He took off the team took off. They go eight and two over. The next ten and baker's nineteen touchdowns two interceptions in it appeared that it clarified kareem. I give you that but so did baker because they won a playoff game against their archrival at pittsburgh and it was. What was it. Forty eight to thirty seven bakers. Qbr in that game was ninety. Three on a scale zero to twenty eight in the game. He lit them up. He did not play that well at kansas. But nobody don't do that. Don't do operating maha gauri got injured. They had a chance to take the lead burger. Got the ball back. What did he do three it out. Okay now that's when the rub needs to meet the role if you are what you say that you are you are meeting like skip bayless believe you. Are you got to win that game. Noma homeboy. you gotta really here. Just going down and got a touchdown you got them three and out. They put the ball back to you okay. Now you've got to come up big. Show me what you got. I saw it at pittsburgh. I saw it all the ninety three and he had his moments at kansas city. But no he did not come up big in the biggest moment but it's hard to win there in the cold at arrow. Because i did. I don't know how but it's hard to beat any given sunday. Because he was hot plays skip. You had the ball down five. You got the ball baker mayfield. Hand the ball. You gotta come through. You're saying he needed odell heat hotel. He needs he needed to do that. He had jarvis. What got to higgins. He got a lot of receivers. Yeah okay come on with all hooper. Come on with it. Cleveland is the most loaded team in that division on paper. I think even you agree with that. They had a great draft. They had a great free agency. What's not to love. Loaded gun in the non harmful. Okay but remember. They say that odell has come back they say. What are you going to be a cleveland. Say okay what does he look. He may have to go back to one year. I won't order. Go somewhere where they understand what they have. No i'm not so sure. Cleveland understands what they have in dale. Because that's still a run for his based off in that's to say that's why stefan digs wanted to get up. I wanted to get up out of minnesota. He's i can't show you what i got in a run first offense. He goes to buffalo where their parents. I any lead the league and catch the yard. It hard to believe that stefan digs is mortality. Becker can do to question can audio get healthy and stay healthy if he can show you what you can do this. You give him opportunities. I waiting to see. I couldn't believe that you mentioned. He's only twenty eight years old still. I honestly didn't realize he was still twenty eight if he's healthy. There's a lot more to see. And hopefully we get the chance to see. The abc's has been busy adding authentic pieces. This offseason let me break down. The cowboys got signed to a long term deal. While stephen jones said their offense of line is looking healthy and good as ever and then washington added quarterback ryan fitzpatrick to go along with receivers. Curtis samuel and adam humphreys. The giants should be expecting saquon barkley to make a return. They signed receiver. Kenny golladay and drafted speedster to area's tony out of florida that we wanted to yesterday and the eagles bolstered their pass. Catching group are drafting. Heisman winner devante smith so there is a lot there shannon. How do you rank the nfc east offenses right now. Go cowboys one giants to washington. Three eagles for the only reason. I put the cowboys at one is because i do believe they have the best quarterback. But if i just look at the skill positions i would take the giants. I would take kenny. Golladay evan ingram. Qadir's tony sterling. Shepard cow rudolph decide and they get saquon back so i think there's a john ross in there too. I can't play that he can't do that. What do you run four. Two the fast. You got the fastest time recorded combat. So that's the reason. I put dallas and brought because i do believe jack is better than daniel jones and fist. Magic and i love what i love. What watching team they're assigned curtis samuel free agency period of what maclaurin. I love logan thomas. They got a nice running game skip. They drafted the The big guy the north carolina. The questionnaires yami brown. The question is skilled can ryan fitzpatrick patrick. Kenny be magic because what normally happens to him. Is that when you don't expect anything we saw. We came up to bids. Get struggling against the raiders. The guy pools fifth patrick math clear round got it. Hey like beetlejuice of y'all never seen anything like it before that but when you expect him to do things they expect things from him at the digest. It didn't happen. They expected things from him in buffalo. It did not happen. And so now there's expectation now clearly. He's better than the wayne haskins but the expectations are lot more up than they were for the wing asking so for that. Because of that i do believe is the best quarterback in that division. I win cowboys. Giants washington equals so when i look down the giants skill position players and all their editions. It is scary time. And when i look at washington skill players it is scary. Time thima cornerstone. So we got nascar team. We might win the g. league exactly but the giants especially daniel jones is pretty good. He could be. He could be very good on asian. We've seen fits magic be very good. Yeah on many cases yes and yet dak is back back is back in the saddle and they say he's ahead of schedule on his rehab was career threatening. He got paid. The cloud got lifted off on locker room because it was going to be jerry versus dak all year long as he may be played way right out of dallas. And that's over and done with. Can he live up. I sure hope so because it's a lot to live up jet. I thought that was struggling to prove to jerry that he was good enough to merit forty two million dollars in he wound up getting the most guaranteed money the biggest signing bonus in the history of this league. It's just hard to live up to that. But he's gonna have to write. Because i do think my defense is going to be better because it has to be better. Kill those kids. You can throw all those kids out there long and tall. You can throw them all out there. They have to be better than the junk that was out there last year. I'm begging eighty one. Eight eight one. I'm thinking how many cases we already have. I'm going to win this division. Mostly because of dak prescott. I get blake jarwin back. And he is a bona fide. Proven weapon dak loves him. Yup and the three receivers are bona fide dot connected receivers in ceedee lamb or rise and shine in ways. He couldn't last year with andy dalton and ghanouchi and garrett gilbert and it was a cast of thousands at quarterback and it was a long hard rookie year for him. But you watch his sophomore year will be better his forgot about slayton. They still got slammed. Got the giants say sterling shepherd. I mentioned sterling. Shepard totally forgot about slayton. I like the skill position. And you're right. Everything is going to be incumbent on that if he fully healthy from that ankle and can he play up to the contract because now escape. It's not about oh. He's a fourth round draft pick. Nobody cares about him. Being a driver you can use that every rookie. Once you get that second contract you throw that out the window. I mean it's nice when he come up to the draft. You know tom brady was a six draft. Pick you guys. It doesn't matter what you get drafted channel short was this and at and donio brown with drought. That's all fine and good but once you get that contract. They thought the drafting okay. Now you're getting paid like every franchise quarterback you need to perform the survey of. I got it so as much fear and respects. I have for both giants and washington. Skill positions ceedee lamb will rise china become the best receiver in the nfc He will be the most productive receiver. Nevada smith is with the eagles. He'll be great jalen. i got it. It will be all about c. D. lamb could tony. You think he'll he's it. Kt okay fourteen. Yeah okay well you got well. He's a human highlight according durban mind. Okay y'all got deal with twice. Okay patrick graham defense williams i got it. And maclaurin incurs samuel. I think they both run four three right. Well y'all got basketball player so you got long arms. So if they get it. Just pull down. I got the best defensive player in the draft according to the hall of fame. Can that not help. Would you need you need other guys on the field to play to the level of the guys guys making a lot of money on the side of the ball is given the have lived up to expectations. I'll need to call the name. But they know who they are. And i my offensive line will stay healthy and happy all year long it. I just believe in last place. Sixteen games this year coming up. Okay zack. martin will be healthy. I'm not year law com collins. I'm knocking on wood. He'll be healthy whole year. He's coming off career-threatening surgery right. And i'll be just fine will be protected. He needs to be protected. And i still love my weapons. I do not love my running back. But i think he will be better with with back. Who knows. give chase young. You got the the doron pain. You got ala. You got the other kid on the other size hole yup saquon back with the giants so you can argue with me. Saquon is better than zeke. At this stage disease career. You can definitely tell me that. Antonio gibson is better than z z. Was last year house. Call a saquon going about a sixty yard okay. All right that that's what happens then. The other twelve carries minus one. Okay i thought you said the criticism that you have about zeke is. He doesn't give you explosive. Plays all he gives you two now. My guys saquon. Give you big breasts. Seventy eighty yards this yard. And do you talk about the next. He'll get like seventy eight yard so you're going to be healthy. They'll be healthy. Okay all right. I got back. You don't have that boils down to that. Just like rondo rondo. You don't have ron. I got a team. That's gonna win the division you don't okay yep cases we have already got cases on. Okay thank you do realize plainfield right. You do realize there. I'm seeing about five. Wins misery. Gatto you you go play for bud. Skip t what you might just fool us. You know what shannon you said that to. Tom motivated to keep playing more and more years. You saying what he needed to hear to prove us all wrong and now you wrong shannon. So it's actually going to be because of you that we continue to see tom brady. No mercy sunday on f s one. The stars of nascar go. Old school with the throwback brace from darlington catch some of the most iconic rights as they hit the track for the goodyear four hundred all starts sunday at three thirty eastern on f s one fox. Sports app throwback well steph curry continues to light it up you forty one last night in the warriors win over the pelicans. Greens at teams are terrified. Of how well steph is playing in steve. Kerr took it one step. Further purse said that curry has the humility humor and confidence of tim duncan her also said. That curry reminds him of former teammate. Michael jordan because once brilliance equity excellence becomes routine and is expected. So shannon are these comparisons valid. Here they are. The only deal between steph and tim duncan. Tim doesn't really show no emotion whether he's scored fifteen points gamble. He scored thirty and grabbed. Twenty rebounds. staff is go shimmy on steady. Going shoot at three turn at the staffing going to do his thing. That's but i can understand the humility. Because there i mean the tim doug and even really ever speak i mean. He got thrown out of the game for just laugh. He left the crop doing covered until like what. Movie and joy crawford got the league suspended and jordan skit. Why should reach the status of being great. The expectation is unique. Gonna be great every single game. So if steph to for ten from the three man what happened steph. Step must be hurt because you expect every shots like michael everytime michael join shot the balls guilty people expected to go in. When when when steph shot schuster ball you automatically expected to go in no matter how far shooting for be like thinking half court like yeah. That's like you do realize nine times out of ten. That shot not supposed to go in. He's got you convinced that he's made it more times than not that. Every time he shoot it's supposed to go in and we've gotten spoiled with the things that step does just like we get spoiled with things that michael dead and k. d. lebron so yes. It's a great because for me. I think the comparison between. Tim duncan and steph If fair because they're both kind of quiet but therapist on the court than tim everwood got the nickname too big funded miller. Thanks shake gave him bad because he was fundamentally sound wasn't nothing spectacular by his game is that he one way more than he lost. And you looked up. You're like he had a thirty twenty game with five blocks. That's step you know steph is because you like it. He because he can do like it. He could have several points in the first half and then get twenty seven and a third quarter. So yeah i liked. I liked the comparison. People don't give step enough. Creates skip still has a higher vinyl scoring average than kobe. Bryant larry bird and d wait let that think people for just a second a final scoring average and we know what kobe represents we know. What larry represent a little chef steph. Six foot three okay. Maybe six to have was. I think he's a full. You'll game me little compared the rest of vaclav for me. i like. I like to compare. Because i don't really know tim. Tim had a great sense of humor. I guess steve kerr had agreed luxury of playing with by an play with so he would know better than anybody else and he's had luxury of coaching staff for like the last five or six years so he has the luxury of the very unique perspective. That very few people can have. I play with stuff. I mean coach steph. I played with him. And i played with my so. I think he is the best to say what. He's a combination of those two guys. So i give you this steve. Kerr has credibility and validity when he speaks of those two yep he saw them up close and personal. But i wish you wouldn't go there on either count because it's not right to me and i don't think it's valid comparisons on either case because i was around jordan a lot. I know a lot about tim. Because i've been a spurs fan. I've been pretty connected to people in around the organization. So i have a pretty good sense of what he what he was in. What remains in for me. let's start with. Tim duncan he was as quiet a superstar as unassuming a superstars. This league is ever seen because most people be quite assume given the the the designation. I guess it is of the greatest power forever. I thought he was just a sense. Billy me but that's okay if you want to do that. But if you know the spurs dynasty he was the driving yes of it. He was the leader of the dining on and off the court and he just played basketball. There was no showboating. There was no hot dogging stuff or there is no just guard hanging out. He's baylor chicken breasts. He's good but he played but he was very very good. And when it was time to speak up in the locker room right off the court spoke and when he spoke they listened to him. And when that team needed be righted under fire on the court he was the one who took the basketball and made the play to win the game. One a whole bunch of championships and if it weren't for reality would have won. He would have been undefeated in. Nba filed be right up there and that sort of jordan fixing. Oh yeah you'd be six in. Oh got so. It's hard for me. What i get it steph off. The floor is very humble and all his interviews these very humble and extremely likeable and i think people really want to likes never hurry. They're times on the floor when his showboating and his. I don't like it just after a while. It is a fan of his. Because it's just too much hit that three. I got it and it's part and parcel who he is and he backs it up. I don't take that away. But don't compare them to the big fundamental. Because tim never show boated. And that's the thing what you've got to concede those skill twenty parka comes with finals. Mvp temps okay. You need to do that okay. You didn't hear a peep. Katie combs take over. And so i think a lot of what. Steve is talking about because these firsthand business. Step the unquestioned. Lead the undeniable franchise player that. He's willing to concede that okay. Katie do tim duncan undeniable. Dude at tony model. Okay rob thank you. Not only did he get past. Oh twice a twice. You know what. I'm cool with that russia. Not only not the penalty. He got back so he'll play second. Tony parker okay now to jordan to me comparing anybody. Jordan is just wrong. It's unfair to whomever you're comparing to. It's not fair to step but he's trying to make the point of we take him for granted because he's so great every night. Well okay time out. He's not great every night. I don't have enough show to go through it. But he's had a dozen games. This year was completely off right completely cold. Because if you're going to do what he does. You can have a night where you just you. You go frigid cold right. You can't hit the rim right and if you go back just go back and look at his game log and find the dozen games. They're a bunch of one for tens. There are a whole bunch of two nine. there's some one for thirteen's and then even back in april twenty first. He had a two for fourteen. That broke him out of his. You know when he was on fire and he called. You're going to go up. He's going to remind you fairly regularly. This is hard man. Oh yeah what i'm doing. I'm taking shots with extremely high degree of different. They're put us that up on his last night. The average distance of his shots made almost nine thousand nine feet. Zion is four point seven. Beat so let us think skip does is almost shooting three pointers ricciardi takes. I got it. But i don't. I don't need the jordan comparison to remind me. Just how great he is. I get it i see. People tend to overreact. Al gradient skip. We do that all the time with greatness because they make it look so easy when it's not easy having played the nfl and have been around in the wash jerry and the watch berry and to play with john and with a lot of these great players. Yeah ray lewis they made it look like a man but when you get down to it it was hard. Hard to get. Twenty tackles with two sacks appear. Everybody can't do that in. Step with steve. Kerr saying the way these guys play thursday. Football is back with the spring league on f s one. The season kicks off with the big header. As the elvis take on the aviators seven eastern then the conquerors battle the lineman at ten eastern. It all begins thursday night on f s one and the fox sports app marla successfully defended. Is you have see welterweight title against or hey mass ten days ago with a second round. Knockout we'll speculation has already begun with. Who spot is expected to fight next and joining us now. Kamar respond himself. Welcome thank you so much for joining us today. I'm going to get straight to the important question. Where do you wanna fight nex. Kamara you gotta be. Okay yes i got. We chatted a little bit. Of course thank you for joining us. We talked a little bit about your big win. Your big knockout. But the question is i'm jumping right to it. Who do you wanna fight next question. It's one of those situations is to where of kind of been through each and every guy in at the top right now. It's it's you gotta find that guy as scary as it is as you know just anxiety field is that is a. That's what keeps us alive. Is that next guy. That's gonna make you go. You know feel stub. I gotta get a train. I gotta really get motivated. Go out there and say small fears again and go out there and defeat them and right now. I really don't truly see one of those guys. I think i've kind of come through the division. And i've kinda ripped these guys weren't by one and right now it's just a matter of me getting motivated again to do it all over again so tomorrow. Speaking of motivation you said right after the moskva doll fight that that you thanked him for for really scaring you into being fully motivated for that fight so going in. Did you have any thoughts anywhere in the very back of your mind. I'm going to knock out a guy who's never been knocked out before absolutely I think it's one of those those after the first fight. I wasn't satisfied. You got played a role in. It might not think we see but we see this. I status. i've seen you guys debate. You guys had him on the show what he was talking jiving in doing all this talk about he was going do this and baptize me. And do all of that and you guys went right along with it. Yeah you know. Okay i mean you could do. You can do that. And he went out there and that the results they materialize and and i feel like people who was a little let down because people really wanted the definitive closure to that chapter. And i didn't feel that myself. I feel like i really put that stamp on it. And so that's what i said. I wanted to get it. I wanted to right that wrong. I don't wanna leave a fight. Feeling like i didn't. I didn't get into fight. I trained to be a fight to get out there and feel that violence. I trained for that and i didn't feel it through the first word which is why we had to do it all over again and i think this time up with a stamp on the. I'll let him know that you said you wanted violence. I gave you some violence so you weren't at all surprised that your right hand got completely threw landed flush on his jaw and not demand cold. Yeah i think. I've been trained in it. I i know. I i'm starting to get better. And that's what i say to these guys. I'm really starting to find my stride in start to grow. Grow as makes martial artist grow Skills but just girl mentally because by the time you step been there a large part of it is not necessarily you know physically what you train mentally how you train. Because i don't just play the skills. I played a man and an at this point i'm still growing and i'm starting to hit that stride in my right hand if it touches you definitely turn lights out you look at it but the thing is about knocking someone out you have to open yourself up you have to become vulnerable and with your skills the wrestler you feel you can take anyone down and then stall them out in that aspect so in order for you to land that you had to open yourself up but i watched something that you did. He said he thought he would go to shoot a takedown and underestimated you. But you not his right hand down with your left glove because where you expect him to throw something back because when you throw a put you leave yourself open to receive. appoint as lilly. He's very crafty very skill. Which is why no one is able to ever been able to do that to learn like that available versus skilled and in the first round he kind of showed me that reflects very very quick. It's kind of like a boxer. He likes to roll and roll punches off his chan and i saw that. And that's we trained for that with my coach trevor wittman. That's one of the things that we worked on is going through in everything that i wanted to throw is is technically sound. But i want to get through him. I wanna let him know that. I'm just every punches with bad intentions and that one i i kinda set him up. We started flowing after that first round That russ go. And i said all right. It's time to get some gig. Grittiest time to get down to it. And i was ready to bank at that point. It's all whatever he was going to be our going to take it. And i'm i'm i'm coming with heavy shots in basically let them know right. Now that you need to respect what. I do feed as well as the take downs as well and i showed him a lot of thousand at first round. I kept showing it showing it programs in mind. You think. that's what i'm gonna do. Come over the top at the right hand as good night so you decided that you were going to sit down with all your points you want to feel every place that will is not the tap that you know. Yeah okay he might. He's tapping me but he's really trying to take me down you like. I'm sitting down with these points. I'm trying to get you out of here bro. As i needed to get him out of it. I didn't feel like people. Would it be satisfied if i just went out there and put a five round. Beating on people would not be satisfied with that. People will want people want someone's head they either want my head. Which allowed me. The did they want in my head or it had to be his head and that one i had the in and definitely knock his head all in order for people to walk away from that feeling satisfied so back to future opponents is conor mcgregor. Even a possibility for you in if it did material what would happen. Get him tomorrow get him. I say this with all humbleness. It's it's not a possibility and that's not on my part of showed i. I've let people know that. I'm ready for anybody anytime anywhere and connor. That's not a possibility because offered in the fight before the first meet the meet my fight with massa doll was over the whole last year they were trying to put that together and it was coming. It wasn't coming to flourish. They just wasn't materializing and conner ran his mouth. A little bit said that one seventy belt is looking good to him and say hey you go come get it. I'm give you shop maskhadov. Don't wanna fight is your shop. You can go on my twitter and look much twitter timeline. It's one i tweet them. I said you have the shop. Connor if you want it come get it radio. Silence what he went. Radio radio silence couple of days seem tweet. I ain't nothing from so he's ways. Mcgregor is afraid of you at the end of the day. I'm not gonna use that word. Afraid but i think conor is a very smart man and resourceful man and he knows his ability and he knows if i'm gonna walk into gauge the lion the lion about to do something to me so you know what i'm a stand outside the caves and i'm gonna make fun and i'm gonna talk to the line arrival the canes. You don't wanna get indicate he will rattle the cage. He one route of the case. You want to stand on the outside communicated back you know you don't want to get inside and close the cage door in the cage door and see what's going to happen. I don't wanna do that. A lot said about pound for pound could be. That might be interesting fight. Would that be a fight. You want you take but the power for pound. Where do you think he's staying. John jones hadn't fought over year. Could be hadn't fought in a long period of time. I think it's a to a two man race to mad woman race between you and amanda nunes. Where do you think you should be ranked on that pound for pound list. I think so too. I i think amanda nunez. It phenomenal champion. She's shown to division champion. Don't her back and forth defending those belts. She is she probably right now. Save the greatest female fighter ever seen. Yes i would agree As far as as far as myself. I think right now for pound i am the best in the world minus two apps it could be. I am the best in the world. John hayden fought in a long time. Which big respect to john. John overall career wise with john has done phenomenal. You can't dispute that a right now pound for pound in the world i can get it done every wear every aspect of the sport i can get it done in my whole career to count on one hand many rounds. You could say i close. He might have lost that. Were i could count on one hand. So i don't believe anybody dominates like myself and that's why i mean i'm just i'm so far ahead of these guys. These guys got show me something now. They gotta show they gotta let me know. Hey you can fight me. I'm ready now to challenge you. I'm ready to step in and challenge you. So these guys need showed me some So one last question you did grow up in dallas texas. Are the cowboys going to next year's super bowl last going to do you don't do that. You knew that to me. I love cowboys. That are meant that. The cowboys i grew up watching them. The beza jerry. Jones is done with that team. Good or bad they okay. They've definitely made the cowboys a household name. So you know my heart and and love will always be with the cowboys But i think that's been none so i they'll put that on me now. We need that conor mcgregor pipe. Beat the you bring you ask about the voice camp. And he's done it just always back. Lara we so appreciate your time. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for chatting and obviously we are looking forward to learning what you decide to do next and besse la z. The next got one eighteen to one four win against the grizzlies last night. And that means the knicks clinch. Their first winning season since twenty thirteen. New york has also now climb all the way up to the four spot in the east after winning twelve of their last thirteen. And now the one. And only nick superfan. Michael rapaport is joining us. Now mike i guess. I've known you for the last three years on this show. You've been waiting for this. Moment are the knicks for real. The knicks are definitely for real. And i've come on this show and i've articulated my pain my agony i've Sort of i left. You know it's been rough. We've had jeff hornicek as a coach. we had. Kurt rambis somehow someway as a coach. Derek fisher. As a coach we have a blues man a blues guitar player as an owner. Who humiliated one of the most beloved figures in new york sports charles oakley we've dealt with all of that i've dealt with all of that my father. The fans of new york have dealt with all that but the pandemic people were saying that new york was dead for the last twenty years. They were saying that. The new york. Knicks oregon. They were done. It wasn't a cool place to play anymore. It's shocking to me. It's shocking to everybody. But the knicks are for real there in the fourth the fourth seed in the eastern conference. They won twelve out of thirteen games. I'll say it again. Twelve out of thirteen games. They're not scared to play anybody. They're not impressed with anybody. They believe in each other okay. They're not on instagram. They're not worrying about playing tournaments because they secured their spot. Okay they're not complaining about playoff game theory workmanlike team with julius randle who is not a flashy player. He is in full. Bloom is in full bloom. He's not a human highlight film. He's not a crossover guy. He's not a dunker. He's the leader and this team resonates the same way. The great teams of the seventies the championship team resonated with new york. And the same way the ninety s knicks resonated. Because they play with their head down. They're not complaining. They're not flashy. They are under appreciated and they're underdogs. This is almost like the rocky balboa of the nba and in my opinion this knick team winning twelve out of thirteen is the greatest story in sports. We have going right now and nobody joel embiid. Okay the nets. They atlanta hawks. Whoever sneaks into the eighth seed. Nobody wants to face the new york knicks and a play off tournament in a seven game series because they play hard every single night. There's no big three. They call themselves too big fifteen and it's great to see and i'll say it again. I'm shocked. I am shocked that they won the glass twelve out of thirteen. I am shocked that they've been so consistent so greedy this year. They're starting lineup. For the most part is elfriede payton. rj barrett nerlens. Noel reggie bullock and julius randle. This is like the island of broken toys. Okay no what if expect team twelve the thirteen games but done it. And they've done it in a great new york way and like i say when people were saying new york is dead. New york is back and knicks. Basketball is back and we deserve it. New york knicks fans deserve it and they are making the guardian cool when everybody when those said. We're not coming to new york. It's not a cool place will now. It's a cool place and it setting the temperature going forward and thank god. We deserve it. Knick fans deserve it. First of all. I need to slow down. Okay you you you speed right now you go like eighty five hundred thirty five which you get you a major citation actually going to take jail for that second of all yet. Could you win. I could you win a first round series if you get lanta. Which is the feisty. Currently yes you could beat them. But that's where the bookstop beating. Milwaukee you're not beating fairly you not beating the brooklyn nets and you. Oh we don't celebrate anything first of all when you haven't eaten of along you don't complain about the meal that you get you happy that you got a meal. Just be happy in the playoffs. You over to talk about. Oh we going to rate. You're not winning anything. michael rep. Okay i didn't. I excuse me sir. I didn't say anything. I'll rings yesterday. You are in tears. Almost a play in tournaments. You're about a play in tournament man. We ain't worried about a plan on the wolf right now. We made the rockets look like the g. league team. We job john rant. A got ejected from the game because they played tenacious defense. They play gritty. Even say play as a team with a guy with a bunch of guys. Aside from julius randle and jomhuri got thrown out of the game last night a taj gibson was out of the league. He was out of the league new orleans. Noah's been on every single team in this. He's he's he started the trust the process thing. We never thought we would have done. It was like a mad scientist. And i'll say it for third time if you guys ever thought in my wildest dreams that in may of twenty twenty one. I thought i would come on here to gloat to be happy about the new york exactly. I never thought it and this is a team with the sole the team with heart. This is a team with grit. And it's a team that represents the five boroughs unlike that. Solis big three out there in brooklyn. Who can't even figure out what lineup they're gonna start. You think they want to come to the garden and play against the new york knicks. I'm telling you this is like a baby nineties. New york knicks team through a freight train. And it's a it's a great story in sports right now and. I don't know why you're talking about a team that may not get into the playoffs. Every single day shannon you need to focus your energy. Diversify your thoughts. Guys might not even make it into the playoffs. Let alone that play in twelfth. Give sweet freight train. Y'all caboose yelling. No train caboose shannon. Do not want me to sue. The i publicly admit. I am with michael ratliff. You are the new york. Knicks are finely legit. They have a real head coach. Who coaches and teachers defense at the highest level. They are ranked fourth in defensive efficiency. And they're starting to threaten utah for third in defensive efficiency. How your lakers. Still i i. I don't know how us yeah. Okay fine but you've gotta julius randle. I thought you undersold in michael. He's twenty four ten and six. Those are all career highs. I think he's a legit star in this league. He's joining for twenty three percent from three. Julius randle are you kidding. Rj barrett is nice complimentary star. And then who is this guy. Derrick rose coming off your bench. Every night he's seventeen eighteen twenty points. He you know he's only thirty two. I thought he'd been the league like seventeen years like he's older. And laurent is but he is playing young. So it's legit. You will beat atlanta in the first round and i wouldn't doubt it if you took philly to maybe seven games in round two of the playoff tree. They played hawks. I got is really. I'll some of that. You can take whatever you want on the trade. You're gonna eat a medical training. i like ice tray. He's underrated. I don't know why he's not on those top under twenty five lists. The atlanta hawks ain't beating the new york knicks in the garden. No biggest tragedies today. they haven't been to pack up for the greatest fans in the world in the greatest most famous sports arena in the in the garden and the garden will be eating. Trust me in the playoffs. The garden will be eating once again. We worried about the second round shannon. She this is why. You're jumping into finals. You jumping into western conference. That's why you're worried about a plan. Twenty we put our head down. We treat every game like it's an important game. We rest and players. Julius randle plays the most minutes in the nba. And let's talk about julius randle. He's he's beyond the most improved player in the league. I don't think that award is worthy of. He's definitely an nba of a second team. Or if not maybe a first team or if you really want to get down to the nuts and bolts. He should absolutely be in the. Mvp conversation it's a beautiful thing for new york city. And like i said new york deserves it and this is a team that represents new york. Okay this is a team that represents everything that is great about new york nosed tough workmanlike with the little flash. Just like those seventy knicks with earl. The pearl clyde frazier in the back court. This is a great story. This is a great tough mike alert. It will joel. Embiid wants to come to new york for seven game series. You're crazy okay. So one last question. And i'm serious about this. Are you sure you want your knicks to win big because you're going to lose your sympathy card. You won't be able to cry about your nixon more. Listen i if. I didn't want him to win big. They're going to win big. They don't listen. they're not listening to me. They're not listening to you guys respectfully. They're not listening to jenny the mvp they're not listening of noise listening to their coach there listening to each other. They love playing with each other. They love playing in new york. And it's is great. We are new york and we love basketball. And if you're gonna come in here you better be ten feet tall bike. You have stayed loyal to those next over the last couple of years. You could not have come any closer to the screen there. You've got your points well received. We appreciate your time always great to have you and we will check in very soon. No players from historically black colleges or universities were selected in the nfl draft and dion. Sanders took notice posting on instagram. Saying this we have the audacity to pay one another while. Our kids are being neglected and rejected. I witnessed a multitude of kid that we played against that were more than qualified drafted. Prayers are that this won't ever happen to get get your knife out my back and fight with me. Not against me so shannon. What is your reaction twenty and here. Because i'm a graduate of hvac. You and i heart skip sixties and seventies eighties. Even in the ninety s. there are a lot of black kids that we at. Abc's that got drafted but just like in basketball skip. The reason why kids go to north carolina and kentucky is because they see other kids go the university and go to the nba so they feed each kid. They the alabama had six guys go in the first round. They see that eight guys in the first row. And so now four and five star recruits wanna go to these big universities and they're not going like they used to and i remember having a conversation with me williams. It's great we're talking i. i don't know strahan skip. I don't know win the next. Hp you got to go to the nfl and become a hall of famer because those guys are not going to the university anymore. The go into ohio states they go into the big programs and his tough hopefully with diab being their age. Georgia not here. Coach tried to get marshall faulk southern. Hopefully they can bring some of these guys that are qualified to go to big universities. Get these guys to go. Abc us and get them to the nfl. This will change because of those three men. I believe in you remember once upon a time the hp pro pipeline. The nfl loved of the hbo. And now it's been nine times since two thousand nothing. Nothing there was one in two thousand and twenty. They did play a spring schedule. I don't mixed ever messed everything up. you know. Obviously in there was covert issue there. They're all kinds of issues. But listen i trust dionisi for talent. If he saw kids that he's playing against deserve to be draft right. Well at least they better be undrafted. Free agents right got me. We leonard drafted from south carolina state. He's an all pro. So the talent level is there skip. We just gotta get. We gotta get some more funding to get these programmes up and running. And i believe the right guy for the job job. I'm glad he spoke out of this guy for some strong strong strong words for him. That is more undefeated known.

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 581: Kobe's Legacy, the Pro Bowl and Serena Williams

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 581: Kobe's Legacy, the Pro Bowl and Serena Williams

"This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA MMA. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen Yeah Yeah. And Wabe Birkbeck G. S. MC. Sports hike has presented my G. S. M. C. podcast network. My name is Chris Blades. And before you start today I want to remind you if you haven't already to subscribe after the podcast makes you never miss an episode machine always on top of all the latest stuff that were dropping If you can please also give us a five star rating eating and review and good review. It'd be very appreciated. It obviously would you guys like and don't like and then also if you has social media we are also on social media you so you can find us. They are twitter instagram face. But we can talk and chat rooms and discuss any number of things relating to the world of sports so And today the what I thought I was going to start on talking about today was going to be The bron- laughter Saturday night. If you didn't Yeah No. Lebron is now third all time in scoring Mike in terms of points all time leaderboard in the NBA. And that's what I thought I was going to be Talking about to begin on the show today but unfortunately it was news. That came out either early afternoon or the morning depending on where you live That condo Kinda shook up the sports world and I'm GonNa unfortunately the talk about that instead that would be the untimely passing of one. Kobe Bryant if you I mean I imagine has has all know by now what happened to but if you don't Is Involved in a helicopter. Crashes from this the reports and the sources and all that there it sounds like he was Traveling with He was travelling to a Hutu. A game or to a practice in in in regards to his daughters Basketball team probably. Just you know the grammars run. Elliot's we trying to beat the traffic was as I imagine. This is the thing he does a lot of times so didn't think much of a but unfortunately Things did not go his way and he and he was like they can use involved in an accident and unfortunately not make it out his daughter. Also John I'm did not make it out a cup of there was I think there was nine. Total people on board including in Pilots The other eight of them didn't make it an obviously. I WANNA semiconductors in San my thoughts and prayers to the Bryan family to all the family family and friends of those involved. There's a very unfortunate situation not something anyone really expected to. We think about or be talking about Today today Does in general regarding any athlete but daffy obviously Kobe Bryant a guy who was fairly young only forty one years old his daughter WHO's only thirteen. Lean her friend. who was? I'm around soon around the same age some the other people involved in the crash. I imagine they weren't. They weren't that oldest out a lot of life to live house unfortunate but something that at that news Kinda shook the sports world Just from the moment it it happened to you. saw a lot of players there's going through the their games today. with heavy hearts sitting on the sidelines Tears in their eyes has tears in their eyes on the courts You saw a lot of different teams. Try their best to pay tribute. Obviously there will be more and more tributes for him throughout out throughout the week and throughout the year and all as if I imagine the NBA is going to have. I know the clippers. Play the Lakers In La on Tuesday. Today I believe so I imagine. There's there's something I'm big this going to happen. At that game I would thank began us. Use All different players whether it's our are different teams whether it's Taking the twenty four second violations to start the game or eight second violations And trae young woman. The players did his own personal tribute in terms of he came at least the beginning game. I don't I don't know if he was able to keep that throughout the entire game but lose to begin the game came out with the number eight on Irma terms of Kobe. Obviously and then I know this was probably rougher him because I believe he had said I'd always said after the Game Rab Believer's even before that that Diedhiou who again passing in the accident was he was her favourite player and I think like Kobe told him then obviously he method. It's a cool thing for him because somebody he looks up to their child now looks up to them. So that was a coup homes. Imagine until he was right for him but he had a great game try to pay tribute to him. I now Devon Booker was another guy who I was inspired by Cobain. I mean he's not what he's not alone This entire generation of not even just basketball players but athletes around the world and people around the world. LemMe Lemme not to say athletes with people around the world. That were inspired by by Kobe. Whether it's now seasonably on the court was one thing but his. This is Ozzy the Mama mentality his Actions off the core things he had done in his retirement whether that was Producing an academy award winning short film whether that was being good being good role model for people on whether that was being a good father On being a good friend all that all that stuff that he he had been trying to do was doing his life. That ozzy touch people in different ways. So I know this. It is a big loss for the sports world as a whole just because I got as mentioned there's an entire generation of people In sports now's Wars that they grew up on him. I mean I was among guy on twenty four so he I believe he was drafted ninety six year. He's been then he was. I wasn't the biggest Lakers fan or anything but I see his time in the NBA was a big part of much hood and and and And Ozzy is a part of the child has a lot of other people. He inspired a lot of people to whether it was the play basketball whether it was to to be the best they can be in whatever sport they were doing. Whether it was to be the best they can be in anything that they decided to do. He was a part of that. Like I said an OSCE. You saw that today with the emotions that some the players went through to to make it through their games and then when they were talking about him either before games actually early mainly just after their games. But you would see how much he meant to so many different people announcing how much this hurt and speaking of that I was kind of disappointed and the fact that the NBA didn't decide to cancel the Games today. I mean obviously the the the first game rockets nuggets was a tough to cancel just because of the fact that it news broke rise. I was about to start so it'd be kinda hard to get everybody out. The Iranian player left the quarter. Whatever use even though you saw the weather was Tyson Chandler Awesome rivers talk different different guys on those on those Involved in that game and were struggling to get through it so so just because of that I on that was the reason why I thought they were GONNA cancel off. So they didn't I I imagine Money was somewhat involved in that decision but just a scenario where much like people believe in Kobe. We treat these athletes like their robots superhumans. If you will not they don't do or feel things as normal humans would and because does that respect them to act in certain ways respect them to Do certain things that we were not expect of ourselves like had anybody anyone else been at work and receive news our try to do in their own life. I'm not saying that they wouldn't go. Some people would not continue working but then I imagine other people would As they could go home. And if in or even asked somebody would ask people just leave Very few people who would be expected to continue that day as if nothing happened and that was unfortunately the way that the NBA decided ham things. I just think that was rough. Because again you this this especially with an acting that was involved in sport. That was being played today It's it's it's tough for these players out out of them. who were either new Koby met? Kobe were friendly with him. idolized him. What have you to play to play a game knowing? He's no longer with us and I thought that was unfortunate for them to go through that and theft act as if nothing was going on when I imagine their their heads were on hundreds of things that weren't that didn't involve the game was taking place day. That's why I mean you saw if you didn't see but in one scenario Kyri who has talked about how much Kobe has meant at him. I remember Koby told a story story where he talked about. While the cavs were in the locker room celebrating their non-combat from three one victory and beating the warriors in the finals Um He he talked about how Kyri facetime to him in the locker room talk. My house his The tipsy give them work than different things just just like he he he wanted to impart celebrate. That moment with Kobe's I and those can be tough for him and I. That's what I'm saying. I was not mad at him. Helms Kinda commend him for being able able to to just be like. Hey Look I can't play today and I wouldn't end. I would've understood from bunch of other players that I I would have understood if a bunch of different teams that I mean you saw. I'M DOC DOC rivers. He spoke before the game and you could see. He was struggling on how he's even GonNa talk to the team by plane game when someone news like this and broke science thought. That was unfortunate because like I said we asked these guys to be superheroes to be people without emotion in some scenarios and we don't realize it at the end of today we're all just human. y'All feel things go through things and everyone else does so who. I thought that was unfair to those players and then on top of that Unfair it to them to HAD THEM GIVE quotes. I mean I see a lot of them. Did give good quotes about. Look we meant to them and what he meant to the game when he meant into the world but at the same time at Israeli gets tough to force people to grieve in public but unfortunately hello world we live in now where we force these athletes to have to grieve in public is one. We want statements from them. Like I'm saying like there was if you were wrong If you watched sports center at any point throughout the day if you watched a pro bowl what have you. There was. Everybody was getting interviewed Enron. Everyone's getting asked about him. Ask to talk about them in different memory. Different Time you've met him things of that nature and while that's all fine and good. How's that in? That allowed us to hear some great soundbites and see and have some great and have people recollect some great moments about Kobe his life. I just don't think that that's necessarily the appropriate for these athletes that do like I said in public at the scenario where allow them to realize what happened. Allow them mm to grieve however they decide to grieve and then when they wanNA talk. They're more than welcome to talk. I mean and also you could see these players as they were talking about them after the game. They're getting choked up and they're we're getting there. They're struggling new worked answers and just as a scenario where it's they shouldn't have to do that if they don't want to. But again there since I was a game and they required to you do media Vail Ability. They kind of have to talk about them and again like I said these guys gave these. These athletes are strong. The most of us they can go through more than the average person and can go through. I understand that they were willing to do. His name. Is Legacy Gay. Great answers in regards to that but it is law was unfortunate thing that I thought didn't have to deal with. I mean maybe tomorrow if you WANNA play the games that's fine but today when the news just broke and you could see how much of a struggle was for some these players involved as thought it would have been nice to take their thoughts and their health and their mental health into consideration. Not Force them to have to play a game with such have yards but again that's two each Two each our own. I understand it's either. It's always unfortunate when news like this breaks I mean obviously the NBA World Loss Davis learn a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't that long ago and now have to lose Kobe as well. I suggest adjust is quite unfortunate and I said he he will he will be remembered by many revered by many in the coming days days weeks months years To a guy that meant as much to sports as Kobe did. It's hard to. It's hard to encapsulated tonight into like one segment or one day or one week. It'll it it'll it'll take time. In order to in order to really showcase oh case the scope of what his legacy meant to sports and meant to basketball and meant to the world but we will try our best to do that and I guess that again head on my condolences to his family and all the families of those that were involved in this tragic event. So I'd become back from this break. I'm going to touch a little bit more on covers Agassi and how I personally will remember him. Like I said I was a guy who who was a child. During most of his playing his girl grew up with him grow up with the browns. The world's the lease interns my basketball fan. Themselves are just talk. Talk about what he meant to me. And how I will remember him. And we'll talk about that rafters break. Are you looking for the very best. NFL and College Football podcast then checkout GSM see football podcast get the latest football news both on and off the the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GMC podcasts. Dot Com backslash footfall fault dash podcast get updates college rivalries kindy insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it this show and sleeps and breathes. It's football don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes M. C.. PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO ask network so I mean Kobe's legacy is something that again is hard to sum up in ten fifteen twenty in our day Ten fifteen twenty minutes. I mean nowadays. It's harder to summon up in and a quick little bit but I will try to just remember some of my fondest memories of him as a player in him as person and I think my earliest earliest memory of that. I don't necessarily remember the game but I remember like this is one of the first sports moments. I do remember watching the game. I remember are on display itself was the I believe this was the allieu to not. I believe that this was the In what I believe was the Western Conference Finals against the Blazer. Kinda China helped see like game. Just because I mean just the elation on the faces of the Lakers players the way that I mean this is less less Kobe but The way that shocked his kind of just like zoned. Out in the moment just runs up the court pointing into the stands discount. Ruben Lacaille. You're probably go to the final improved. Like I said I'm preaching. That was the western conference finals on that year. They were just like one of those. It was like one of the first sports highs that I can remember that was always. There's it's always cool moment. Something that's always that some that I always remember Down to this day Another thing would probably be In just him. I guess this is what like and also against the war is missiles around twenty thirteen ish. Twenty five point thirteen around. They went. He TORs Achilles and shot the two free throws and I'm not just the thing because I mean I mean again. We expect athletes to again be robust superhumans and be able to play through anything. Kata view them as invincible. So seeing him be able to tears Achilles which I know is is something that is I mean. I don't know fact being foods I've never had it done but I've I've seen other players do I've seen players do at us. Twenty Sixteen Mindful knows twenty thirty. You know during those articles written between sixteen are you know so. The was in April. Two thousand thirteen for the end of his career This was this is A. That's an injury where most people can bear. You can stand after doing. I mean you saw when Katie did it in the finals last year yet to get off the core most most football players they do they usually card off the field A lot of athletes can I can barely even stand or move within. He was a guy who was able to not only get up but able to walk to the free throw line French shoot two free throws and then walk off himself now just that moment kind like symbolize. What would Kobe was? It was just that he just like. Hey whatever I put my mind to. I'm going to be able to do it. And as I said as an athlete growing and as a person growing up as a person that played sports I was just that was just something that you that you always kinda wanted to isla just being able to play through anything didn't matter What what happened to you just being able to always be out there for your team just something? That was ingrained in you even as a kid to to be able to do I've seen Koby be able to do that. Was All our member and another thing was probably his last game against the jazz lab asking his career especially eighty 'cause it was in staples against the jazz because I mean it was one of those it was one of those crazy games where it was It was like like you could like it. There's like if you didn't know it was the last game you would know just because you felt as if Everybody wanted to see him do well one. Last time I mean he shot the ball fifty times in that game. No one else on the team known as the Lakers shot the ball more than ten times yet sixty st points which I mean Kobe going out on like the highest. I think I believe this is the highest Final game total of anybody's career in the NBA. You got a fact. Check me on that but I believe it's if it's not the is that one highs but you have this season with the Lakers. Were the Lakers. Kinda the Lakers stunt. They finished Seventeen in sixty five so they weren't a good team this year but this game kind of made Copa Final season. All that more worth just because it was it was cool to see him. Go out on top on this time. Ozzy amused great. They're down the fourth had the had the would end up being the game. Winning shot at the Animal Hud along to which I mean. Kobe was famous retaking. What many would be considered many would consider bad shots over the course of his career and that is definitely one that could very will be considered a Bachata but I mean was Kobe? So you knew going in But yet the legacy that was just cool British this e Everybody has come together because this was what he has. Twenty sixteen so just I remember watching the end. Is everyone just on shows media everyone at the game everyone across words wishes coming together and watching a great player in what would turn out to be his final game on put on a show in that game because a very a lot of players within their career. They're kind of struggle. They'd always go out the happiest of nodes and obviously. Kobe was able to do that with against going sixty points in his final game and just having that staple center of oil for him just one last time as a player that leaves obviously When he was not segments Retarded Jersey? Ozzie did that to other player. Just to get Just to get that Lakers fans cheer one. Last time was definitely cool moment. deathly like I said it's a game I probably I wasn't ever going to gather now definitely. Never Forget. Just remember where I was watching this everything that happened in a game like I said it just seemed like an again. The Lakers player dead set on having him play a game that even in certain times a jazz players are just like. Hey look whatever happens happens. I mean obviously they don't you don't necessarily want to lose a game but They were to lose a game because Kobe played well. I don't think that was GONNA be a big deal for them and I was like I said before another thing that I'll always remember about him. Just the fact that you got two numbers retired just because because that's such A. This was a random message in a unique thing and as a unique player so make sense that he would be one of those that do that but very few players play long enough Not Very changed the numbers of course theories like I know what Lebron I wanna get to number two tyler. You'll get his twenty year retired I mean on the Pali district tire from the NBA between him enjoyed. No one's really gonNA GONNA be better than that. I would imagine. It'd be hard to be better than that. So get as number twenty retired and in Cleveland maybe in La we'll see how was career finishes La And then get the six retired with Miami. I believe at some point. I know he didn't leave on the great terms with Pat Riley. But I imagine that the way we'll be able to convince him to retire that number now seaman allowed to that franchise help bring them to championship so Bso very few players play long enough off replay with or wherever switch numbers over the course of their career and then are that great in both their number they may be a player my switch at the end of his career when changes teams or something but usually not good enough with a new team or the number to get it retired and Ozzy Kogi state on the Lakers. All Times listen bid different but The fact that he was great with with the aid and with the twenty four is kind of wild in the fact that he was good enough to then get both. Those numbers retired just that ceremony. Just cluelessly when you see the two numbers going up. I don't know why exactly but that was always just something. I was found very impressive as just being able to get two numbers. Retired by the same franchise That was that was always a cool thing to me and then offset last thing That that will always stick with me from. Kobe would have to be just the idea of the Mamba Mentality announced. I mean a lot of that was directed towards sports. But that that mentality something that I myself and I believe many other people carry or can carry throughout the course of their live. Whatever it is that they're doing whether it's just like baseball that in my mind that really meant was just finding whatever you're good at an doing everything? You can be successful at that. I mean Ozzy not everybody's a great basketball player not everybody's a great football player great baseball player whatever but almost have some sorta talent out there somewhere and that mentality just to the the drive and the desire to be great in whatever it is that it was. And that's Kinda something that Koby. I always tried to do whether that was on the court obviously and talk to be great e said after retired he wanted to be considered a talented wanted. overachiever dossiers considered much more than that. And but I kinda sensitive point. He knew he had some level of talent but he in order to be the best that you could be. He needed to hone that talent and craft that talent and be able to do everything could to try to improve on a down day after day after day and and that is something that we all can kinda shops doing our own lives. Whatever that is that you do this? Strive to everyday Get a little bit better than you were at the day before saying. Yeah I was on the core then obviously off the core weather that was in film whether that was as a father whether that it was as a basketball coach. Whatever it was that he he did or was doing he wanted to be great at it and that is what he tried to? That's what he was able to drive six. He was very successful in his post playing career. Doing many different things so that I guess that just that mentality something that I will always keep with me. Just the drive to be better. I dropped to be great. Go through better however you WanNa word it just that that drive desire to always. He's wanted to seek more. Remember the the I remember the commercial he had with Kanye. This was like as long time ago. But you've commercial where lake Kobe's like talking to a bunch of guys in the Chinese in the audience listening to speak and Kinds like routing off all his all things he's done his career all the great accolades Yasmine Kobe. Just keep telling them they need to. There needs to be more. It needs to be no matter what no matter what you've always done. You can always be doing more and I just think that's that is kind of encapsulate. What the mob mentality was about? I mean I'll see the things we do may may not give us as much fame as much success as much Cloud if you will as Kobe had but in our own life we you can always strive to be the best version of ourselves that we can be and I think that's that's more that's what that believe in that mentality was Israeli about which is always striving to be great in whatever it was that you were doing in that like. I said that's something that we didn't that something that some people allies four like I said there's there's I mean whether it was football. Players talked at the pro bowl talking about what he meant to them whether it was an unnamed march on his own little tribute after go to gold in his game today knows the pro bowl players did the little Jab step fade away after a sack on the team Other players two different things to show their appreciation for what he meant to them and and that kind of just showed that this was bigger and he was as a role model bigger bigger than basketball. He didn't just inspire a generation of basketball players. Whether that's the nicer the much whether it's the kid from la or just the kiss all over the world that moved up to him in one and to do things like covy But he's got a spire just people in general to be great and just this wasn't even like over area in America or like I said in. La was all over the world. He was a global icon. Part of the reason why the MBA is so big as it is. Overseas was was partly because of him And he's probably I mean he's one of the few people that if you even if you know nothing nothing about sports you know who Kobe Bryant his or unfortunately was And that if you if you have to know that much about bass non much sports but if you're overseas people know who was and that's just because of his greatness so yeah those things and also I mean the probably the the one of the fondest memories is I mean if you were if you were of my age group or you grew up during the time where your childhood involve Marchinko we play. I mean all of us Whether we were at our own house whether we were at school Whenever we went to throw something out we always M- shot at Lega. Jump shot still do to this day when I can if there's a need to throw it out of Ashutosh like a bath what do Gorman amonte shooting A fake around my house and dealing Kobe when you did that was just like as a thing that I know. A lot of my generation did and I am as thing I imagine isn't that we will continue to do in his memory just because of that. I mean that was just like a cool thing that people did to like it just how much he meant to my generation and and just like unlike us wanting to strive to be like him and that was not all of us regret at Basketball Week. Could pretend we were in that moment and then obviously that was our way of doing just that so like I said it's service is news unfortunate again not something I expected to be talking about when I was Pairing for the podcast today. But tuck said this is the unfortunate aspect of life we never know when our moment is coming To return to where we came from and adjust hopefully this is just another reminder to again nice had us at Mamba mentality do live every day to the fullest. Do everything you can to the best of your abilities and also just to China old too many grudges. And you're not gonna you as a life talking sports podcast but I mean you saw with Shan Kobe. If the the way that their feud went in the way that it ended in the fact that they were able reconcile before one of them left his earth and we would become friends and cooler again. I mean if they can do ebb leave. Anyone can do it so as a live Suchart. Don't don't hold grudges and again every day. TRY TO Invoke that Mama Been Dowdy if you will and like I said shocked at the greatest. You can be whatever it is that you want to be greater so after his next break and switch gears Talk about something a little bit more happy than pro bowl was today as new care about And I know it's not a popular thing is probably my least favorite of the of the All Star Games in sports and because of that. I want to talk about how I would try to to fix it and make it more enjoyable for myself. Another fans out there so we were talked by the way. I'm going to try to fix the pro bowl after his break. 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They don't play defense Blah Blah Blah. All that stuff but a lot of the main things that are that are involved in basketball still in place in that game is still there still faintly dribbling until three pointers they'll doncaster alleyoop. Still Nice passes The game itself. I guess it didn't. They still play defense towards the end because again people do want to win these things they they wanNA give. I think they win money for charity. And Abbas though you own money for charity so I understand that But yeah so then like that Game Salim Baseball. Obviously Looks the same. 'cause there's no really there's no real way to change that internally game there's still nine people on the field there's still a pitcher. This delay hit a batter off at the empire. Lost Office the same hockey. I know they tried to make some changes to it and people like those changes so that is kind of why I think that NFL Try to make some changes. 'cause like the the game itself does dozen dozen does doesn't look like a normal game because I mean a lot of it is a lot of it stems from the tat the way the hitting involved just because obscene. No one's going to his game or trying to lead this game hurt. So nobody's giving minute. They're all so then. He has like the knows Regina tackle any body. The the blocking is connor dislike are okay like I'M GONNA like boggy flag a second and then just let them run by you and all that stuff and it knows China tackle on UK. Unlike the different things you can't do within the game so like I said just doesn't look like an arm football game so because that'd just makes it does not that many people were. I had to wash it. I mean I'll I'll go through. The different ways are tainted with an OSCE. December stems from like if you keep it if you keep the game itself where you try to change the game as a whole do both sides of it so Miozzi scrapped. The game together just turned into a seven on seven Dislike this are. I'm so you could still have the quarterbacks running backs tight ends wide. Receivers linebackers DVD's although stuff can still take part it's the make flag Or daily Yogis Moon also sadness under the flag football game too so again. It's it's the lighthearted is not as the nausea. No one's hitting says no risk of injury Cents people have to worry about that and I know people like Oh then what do you do with the law. They can still get their pro bowl nods but then just I would have them be they can do like their own different. I know a lot of like with the skills competitions the stuff that they have a lot of that doesn't really involve the linemen I know that they can do like this The Dodge Ball may be a lot of. It's four like the quarterbacks or receivers or the defensive bags or what have you so there's not that much alarms even just have some vents Senate around them so like I said they can still get their Promo Nakai again eliminating the pro bowl. Oh as a whole is not a viable option because again people get bonuses people get incentives we will make the hall of fame is on the stuff so it wouldn't be fair to the new players to take something out of the old players have helped them get the accolades in order to either get more money or be get themselves into the hall of fame because the Promos are something that are counted mid in people's favor in terms of the when that time comes to vote on these kind of things like I said you can't do away with the game as a whole but they yourself away to Congratulate guys for having a great season by just like I said doesn't have to involve them playing in. That game was as Mike doesn't even look rise whether that's and only had like those does the strongest man competitions back in the day received. Mostly benched pressured Hamlin do like Different things than often have been used on gets each other whether it's like the tug of war staff or had them like like seagull like Had them go through some of these optical things like see you can do like go fees quarterback at or not not the same quarterback. ACSI things like the Amish. Just Ashley. That's thus kinda far away on army liming have that kind of our. We have maybe a different kind of course They said tug of war had go through the obstacle courses horses or whatever just like get them you could create events for them to do on while like almost simultaneously. Wild things are going on so you can just have so you can go back and forth between the two Gingrich didn't happen on Sunday. Like I said just have the flag and the and the lambs have happened at the same time. It's giving them something to do because I said it. It just doesn't having a full game where people I mean. I was watching a little bit today but you could see like on certain plays. Some running backs are running harder than others. Here's another certain. Pi Remember watching remarking looked like he was writing that gives an NFL game in her Gatwick moving out of his way. Like hey like slow down like it's not that serious or you see on different players like some linemen and they try to rush hard And some women don't or defensive linemen don't and the nurses I the the Ayalon does way no was going to happen like you. You guys have that discussion beforehand and Ozzy. I'm not enough virus. I wouldn't know that discussion Ebola. You see also gathered trying to get a negative strips. Act Stuff and it's like lausd that's out there that's very should be trying to do at the same time is not normally. There's a lot of like. Hey you rush off a little bit until I let the quarterback throws Kinda practice where you just let the quarterback throw 'cause we brought there to see like touchdowns allows data couple defense touchdown so that was Kinda cool Today in the game but at at the same time it's like you don't you're not you're trying to see guys get sacked and thrown to the ground and stuff like that. It's not really or the PROMOS for like I said different people going in different speeds so because of that. You don't really know what's going to happen so almost a way to just take that completely out of it opposite the way they do that would just have them do the flag. You don't have to worry about you. Can sub guys rush and stuff like or blitz or or. What have you but it's not like you're not gonNA get tackled and thrown to the ground? Pasta get hurt and doing the side of the main sense But if you do keep it out of the game and unfair to this this is involved more sweeping changes to the league's but I know one thing that has been discussing the in the in the idea of player. Safety has been shorter season. So if you did do something like that maybe you say short season in this. Hypothetically Jordan season to fourteen games games all right cool. WE WANNA have the seventeen weeks just A. You don't want like everything get moved up in all around us. I'm used to have like the playoffs happen at the same time. Cool so and I think this is an interesting thing they could do because as we all know. Football's the only sport that plays they're all star game after the season's already done which is another issue that they have because so many people after going through long ruin season especially with your leg a team that just made even to the playoffs or you guys been playing through injuries throughout the year knock are also going to them. WanNa go and play in the pro bowl. And that's why they have so many guys. I'm not cycle throws cycle through because us have very in this sport in particular very I mean not everybody makes all started. I mean honestly because there's the superbowl as well as kids. You can't plans and fear in the Croatia playing the Super Bowl but even aside from that players just like they they think it's cool because like the recognition they gave but they're not really concerned with playing in the game because I guess that they've the buys go through a lot And just like all right. I WANNA take time to rest there. Be With my family after the long season and I think a lot of that has to deal with the fact that they play the game After the season's already especially now early afternoon after the playoffs or busy mowing lawns and they do just to give us something to do. In between the the week of the Super Bowl and he still has some things that award show that they have the Saturday night before The Super Bowl. You just move that up to this Sunday and in a CO worker. I mean I guess you have to contend with the grammy's that's probably why they don't do because earlier in the day you still have it You you have like a a three or whatever they don't think is that big of a deal people. Wash the pro bowls. I don't imagine they would watch the award. Show Bs I think it's the only reason why they have it this sweetest because they want to give people some football to watch between the last game of the Super Bowl which I mean I understand but at the same time If you played it during the season maybe you would. Would you would have less players Sitting out of the game because they wouldn't be as injured but also the way I do. Okay so you have the fourteen games fifteen weeks everybody gets a bar and then in the middle of the season maybe not the exact middle. 'CAUSE that's probably not seven gave isn't enough time to determine who's having the best season but say after like nine games so like five games up in season after that after the Tenth Week you have a two week gap where you have the pro bowl and then you have another week off for players. Talk Raskin recovering ours. If you don't WanNa just having to go play in the pro bowl then come right back if you're gonNA keep it like I say you're going to keep saying you're not changing you still having it'd be like a quote unquote football game. That's what I do. So then every so because the same where where they have with the All star break in NBA were. Everybody gets that break but just like certain people get an extended breaks there not dating make also gave us our view shorter break because they did make the all star game so for those people that As it would be kind of tight to do that all in a week and I don't think people would agree with that so then again when Sega player safety safety if you wanNA have still have seventeen weeks they can have those two that to get you still fitted into a seventeen still put everything into a seventeen week season US use half you have two games and thus to more bikes next weekend. There will eventually extra to if you're playing now from the poll but at least an extra by just again because I mean there have been signs out there that like even the seven weeks or seven days between Games isn't enough for certain for players to be able to fully fully recover them buys bieber fully recover so to be able to give players an extra by week in. There may be an extra two weeks of. You're not playing on. This is something I I think in this industry of player safety is something I don't imagine players would be against. I mean again. You playing their plane to list game so to to less five their bodies to get beat up and then they have an extra week maybe two weeks to her recovery throughout the season just a nice little break in the season season this would allows allows the more Gaza. I mean nine weeks into sears. Imported guys are of Latin May may be sixteen seventeen. Eighteen nineteen weeks leaks in nineteen games into the season. Let me say there's a better chance that they says better chance these guys will want to play in that game. You'll get the best players wanting to play in a game. The you know if they know that like are my body's still feels all right like I said after the fall season they're they're fighting through things are playing things they need Different things help to even get through the week so it didn't make sense then go out there and do that again if there have there buys really going through that. Unless that's what I'm saying that's why so many people skip out on the game just because of the fact that there aren't healthy enough to play even any bit in a fake football game. It's not healthy enough to just be out there. Do I need to get inside. Get a head start on treatment on surgery or what what have you or just. They just want arrest. They've been through a lot throughout the season. Some say if you're going to keep it I think you should just and against assuming they are able the new CBA to give season Jordan. Which I unfortunately don't things going to happen but if it did and I think this is the way that you can still extend the season? He's in long enough to wear the Tom Line. Everything's still matches up to where it was before you can use to have two games and the players are more safe But if you don't do that you of the sixteen game seasons and I just think having a a quote unquote football game is not doesn't really benefit comes in is not is not fun to watch. It doesn't look like the football and then it just I don't imagine it's that fund the players could you. You can't go one hundred percent could you don't want her. You don't hurt yourself on anybody else so just Do Away with that. She yeah those want to. They'll be like if you keep the game when it is and where it is at the point in the season sixteen dollars does make it a seven on seven. Have the lime and do their own thing During the time has nothing you could you could had them do different things Installs they'll be able to enjoy that that we still be able to enjoy that experience. But if you do mm-hmm keep it at you. Want to try to keep as a real football game than just if you are able to shorten the season put in the middle of the season is like I said it just is weird. That they're the only sport that plays they're also gave after season's already over and like well over like three three weeks of the playoffs of already gone by before before The game select imagine the NBA played their all star game in between the weeks of the conference finals and And the UH NBA fons talking about like late. May early June. The planning also again later doesn't like in this religion thing that doesn't make any sense same same thing with baseball like imagine them playing a An awesome game like the beginning of November. It doesn't that doesn't make any sense announcing their seasons like games in monster at your longer than NFL season. So I get why they do it at the end in terms comes with that and it's more so just to give people football outrageous to me that doesn't make any sense just like just like. Why are we waiting till the week before Super Bowl? The plan all star Game when no other sport does that. But I mean and I'm on the Commissioner at will make his decision with some of the suggestions I would give if Mr Goodell would listen to me. So yeah that's those are just my two cents on that is when our tried. Do to fix it. asking people still watch people. I still care about to some degree. So whatever they're doing is working but also there's always ways to improve things and I think those two types of things things you can do to try to improve the game him as my two cents on that and after the next break we're going to transition from Pro Ball starts talking about the Super Bowl little bit. We're still week away some more time to discuss that throughout the week but the Andy Reid The one thing he's really missing on his resume is that Super Bowl victory and it was interesting discussion. I think will cain had on his show that I kind of wanted to touch on a little. Bit is the fact that like we're would he rank among coaches with only one arm super bowl win. If you're able to get is next Sunday so we'll talk about the guys. He is up against in where I think he would rank amongst them after this break. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team team. Check out the GSM see fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper pigs to read hotline offs. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM see podcasts. Dot Com back slash. Fantasy Dash Football Dash podcasts. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty a few PR even IBP leagues when you need fantasy help. There's just one showed a him up. Don't forget to like facebook and follow them on twitter. Visit MC soon podcasts dot com for more info. Yeah we we are your podcast. Think about them guys around the League League and I'm talking about the guy that won the super blobs. You've got guys like Ron Rivera Dan Quinn China Chaddha. Think who else. I know those are two. But they've been to it should well. They haven't won but they've been to super bowl. AM knocking out. Sean McVeigh is another. The one who's been through suitable hasn't won a knocking include. Doug Peterson in this. Just because of the fact East is only he just finished his fourth year that that goes to sit there. He finished his fourth year as head coach. So he's not him in anyways. Accolades don't really match up. They haven't he hasn't been coaching long enough. So conclude include him. So the five coaches. I'm going to place him. Up against our Sean Payton. Mike Tomlin Mike McCarthy the Pete Carroll and then John Harbaugh these are all these are all among the best coaches in the league. Gazi might regard the district. Turn but the other four have all been successful coaches. They've all gotten to the play offs. They've all obviously like I said who believe evolving good. They were all very good. This past year you So do some of the best in the game and they have what Andy Reid is coveting. And that is that elusive super bowl victories. Before you start Obama's GonNa Talk about his. Wear any readers A whole I mean. He's seven all time in in wins with two hundred and seven at least in the regular season as more obscene few include the playoffs but he is leaves in two hundred seven wins in regular season. he's been to what I believe. He's won a total of two conference championships. One in the NFC ONE AFC. He's he went. Oh what I believe five. NFC Championship Games in total bourgeoisie. One with he went to who four with the eagles. No wait yes. We want to five with the eagles. And then two more with the chiefs. WHO's been a seven seven total but in two super bowls So Yacob saying he's he's been a coach for almost twenty years now so obviously been lever long on And like I said he just doesn't have that one ring to Canada cement his legacy and he's and he's a guy that is like I said striving to you what these other guys have. So I have a matching with champagne. Sean Payton is a guy who's only Eighteen Years January twenty one including this year at one hundred thirty one wins to India. Reach too low. Seven has the To the ones who all that Andy re dozen have have Speaking on real quick. He's him and him Marty Schottenheimer in Dan. Rea The only coaches currently top ten in regular season wins all time that do not currently have some sort of shame ship whether this goes to have NFL championship. But no supervisor didn't exist yet and coaches that has ruled annoying. You know what I'm saying. So the only three coaches without shame ship of any kind on their resume so as a result of wants to coaching. So he's the one that says the chance to Kinda add that but going up against Sean Payton like if I were just most of which one would I rather have and I mean. That's that's a tough one for me. Just because they're both the both of the things that excellent at our offense and I would just say that I would give any read the slight nod only because I think I may give him a slight out overall Mulata you guys. Just because this one factor John Hall was known as another factor. But just the fact that Payton. Mike Tomlin Mike McCarthy and Pete Carol have all played with Hoffman quarterbacks or coach. I mean not played but coach with often quarterbacks at some point throughout their career like Sean Payton head drew brees. Tom And had has has on big van. McCarthy had arrivers in now he is not exactly hall of fame yet. But I mean he's still very good quarterback and then and then Peek VIQUEIRA has Russell Wilson so noser four. I mean definitely three SCHERF. Our House aims comes in Russia's probably GonNa make it assuming he doesn't take off the last couple of years or have his career There's something happened with injury wise. But if they if they vowed he played the data's grade all for for these guys make the Super Bowl and we'll make the arm football and pro football hall of fame. Massana Andy Reid had to grabbing having nab who was a good good quarterback One of the best quarterbacks of all time but not exactly a Alah Call Amory may get any may not. We'll see On but I wouldn't be surprised me then. And then Ozzie Smith for a little while as mother quarterbacks with US therein mcnabb time as well but that was the one for most of it and yet Asmat I have to again as a great quarterback and then now he he has mahomes who may wherever will be off him again this. His third year His third year in the League Adam a hall he adam. Mvp Not he got him like he helped coach him to an MVP and second seasons first year as a starter so as not we knew how how good passionate homes was or what he was capable of before numb. Andy Reid Adam and people thought he could be a lot of people said he had a lot of things to work on McCain cleanness in making wise so that is why I think I would have to give him a novice because also any rate has been consistent over the majority of garlic. Obviously I know Sean Payton had after Super Bowl The the Saints had those down US really went like seventy nine three years around either two thousand thirteen dollars. They haven't had he's never made it back to a super bowl since the one that he won. So this is the close one in. Hey my personal opinion and I can understand completely if you would Siwa Champagne but if you're just running that I think he's probably over Utah over Paean in terms of best best active coaches all time. I mean active coaches in the league. Mike Tom's another one who The hangs his hat Different 'cause he hangs on defense as opposed to injury as the head on offense and they've these these guy knows other guys have Outside McCarthy who will see how it goes but these guys have switch teams reason I know. PK was a coach for the jets. Awhile ago a long a long time ago and I think that he coached the Patriots to the academic papers. Before he will the now's house you went to college and then came back then Kosher Seok so he's been great for our longtime. He's five in coaching. You've been head coach maybe not in the NFL. But Hey coach overall all longer than Andy. Reid has Go back to my comment. Yeah I think again the guy who just like I say consistently great offenses are always consistent consistently amongst the best in the league among the best league. I should say and I mean my Tomlin. He gotTa Lot to deal with with with. Unfortunately we've seen what the Antonio Brown's the fact he was able to keep him under control During his time there to a degree at least had the Leon Down Bell situation and now she had big ben in some of the things he went through. But the I think the thing that give me a bump over him is that you could argue at least one point and we made me not big Ben as the best quarterback argue dot com at the best receiver and the best running back in the league and I know the Libyan had some injuries and Soviet to deal with suspension. That everything that he had to go through. But the Antonio Brown Levy on probably the best their position -sition during their time with the steelers and he never even they never made it back to a super bowl. I mean Ozzy Any remade one with with with Donovan and make another one with homes and obviously you got got the palace. got them onto our methods of quarterback as well who was cast off from San Francisco Side is thank. That's probably gives me a little bit of Ed Room. Just because he's been able to do more with less. You could argue I mean out the. US had some of those great defense. Eric Thousands of Jimmy Johnson got. They're leaving like he the ad us able to rehabilitate Michael Vick. Get Him to play. Get him into the playoffs is like I said he was able to coach second-year Mahomes to Andy. MVP AFC championship game. They probably they argue. It'd be going back to the Super Bowl for the second time in a row if D Ford is lines is But yes I think. FIFA FIFA. Him above Tom And Mike McCarthy is an interesting one could again it Air Mars in tiger. But he's just he's been God has been great and then he's an eastern like a Andy Reid to a degree in terms of they were always even after the super bowl they were able to get back to the NFC championship game that but they weren't ever able to do anything with that was they. Always were great regular season. I think what he had. Yeah he wants intense season one seventy nine season in the four seven one season when he got fired but every other season he had at least eight wins. I'm wolf was seasons with ten plus and they made the NFC championship game. I think what so the one I think at least two other times. Not Maybe possibly three times while he was there so just the thing where it's like he is he's been he's not the guy who has been great with unfortunate was never able to get back over that Hump after getting to the after getting to the Super Bowl for the first time. Yeah now they made it. They made In mid twenty eleven they lost the no. No no no. They lost to the giants individual round that year. So they didn't make in twenty seven another made it in twenty fourteen. The the packers did they made in twenty sixteen. When they lost the falcons? I'm trying to think they needed another year to the mid twenty twelve now division around to the niners so yes they made it so Miller two other times while he was there to the NFC championship game again. Not able to get over that Hump. so He's kind of had candy like a rare where he's he's big enough to get his team. Never never we get them over the hump outside of the one year. They won the Super Bowl See this this is. This is a tougher one for me but I do believe just overall success in the success. He's had with different quarterbacks over his career because again all these guys who've I've played with one quarterback I think that kind of gives them the edge. I think I might have him over. McCarthy reader McCarthy injuries able to win that super bowl this this the coming year p Carroll is another one because again he kind of the same situation where he had a younger guy as quarterback was able to get them won the super bowl which they able to do with no homes were any was would be able to do But then they were able to get right right back and I think that that's going to be the thing that even since then they've been because it's the playoffs they haven't been back to the NFC championship game since the last Super Bowl when they lost to the Patriots. Obviously but they've just been consistently good in a lot of Ozzy's down from Russell Wilson but in his career would Seattle since twenty twelve. We haven't had a season under nine. Wins which is which is consistent. Excellence in some that again. Andy Reid does have but budge that he's PK Do do that and get his team back to the Super Bowl you'll like they did. They did in back to back years. which is very very hard to do? especially in this Dane agent in the League where things turn over so fast and it's very hard to get teams back to Super Bowl Once you miss out on it and so I would say right if I don't know this is probably the closest one in my own personal opinion. Two of them just because like carol just been a consistent. Great coaches always seems to be getting his team to the playoffs every year. No matter what I they have one if I had one season without ten wins his twenty nine and seven in two thousand seventeen. We were trying to rebuild after all the legion of boom stuff was kinda done. Have you ever year. They've had ten plus wins which is crazy to think about Then he had some practice because he had two other stopped after he didn't do as well with the jets and then with the Patriots. And then I'll be able to go to college and GMC back together and to get back to the pros but since he's been here since twenty twelve they've been I'm great and I think that's probably I think I might have to see him. Andy Reid Gabe super bowl again. After winning it this time to us from supplant him above P care take p carroll over India's because I know Jerry's beacon p care of not gonNA enforcing enforcing for Andy Not GonNa fold up in the big moment. I know that's kind of been eighty staying and after that you'll get that monkey off his back if they are able to when super bowl this year. That's always kind of the knock on him. Is that when in the biggest games in big moments he whether it's not run the ball enough with misusing challenges misusing mismanaging timeouts also. That's not something they are not being Not does not normally been a knock on P. Carol so that's Kinda why may I may. HP Carol in this got over Andy Reid if he wins that Super Bowl and John Harbaugh the other. One and Ozzy John Harbors a any re- protege And I mean in Venice them. You want to go with Joe flacco which no knock on Joe FLACCO but again. He's not any of the four quarterbacks we listed or on the same cow presenting the full court Richard listed with these other coaches or even He's nowhere near near as good as Mahomes is currently in house. He will be in the future so I commend him for that and then obviously he was able to after though the the only bad thing or the downside is that they weren't the driven thing we have that much success after that super bowl coming you may call it fluky will but again you still need to be. After that. They've they've had some interesting. I mean there was a chance that many thought he get fired a couple years ago now. He was able to stave off a little bit but it had some mediocre years here in the NFC where we get back together This past year with Marin I see he was was instrumental nine often the house easy now. The guys instrumental in terms of the analytics and Gone Ford on fourth down aggressiveness to winger versions. Something like that. He's Kinda helped Advanced thinking of head coaches in the League so I give credit for that but no no slight to him must think of India Super Bowl. Then yeah I would rank him above him. So I guess I would have again not including Doug Peterson because He also has mainly around long enough announcing that including bill checker. I'm trying like even I Jon Gruden. Because he was out of the game for so long so just the tar was hard for me to include him in in teams but amongst those among those six I think I would have read second on that list and with him only being buying. MP Carol in terms of coat act of coaches in the in the in the League all time if he was able to or does it. Not even all time dislike agriculture's right now in the league if he were able to win the superbowl so I would have him. Second amongst among those five other coaches which is not a best buy for him on. Hopefully for his sake you can get that Lose of Super Bowl victory but I mean the niners are going to be tough in the negotiating is not just going to hand it to. He's GonNa he's GonNa make them go. Come and go get it so interesting discussion. That will gain hand kind of just where I wanted to where I was thinking about just late where any would rank among current super bowl. Winning coaches coaches in the League if he was able to get one said obviously not including ballot check in and Gruden and Doug I think that the second thing I might take care over him but again. That's not inaugural. PK Rose a great coach for being in the hall of fame I think I'm overpaid. I take him over time. Take him over McCarthy. Take him over. Horrible is that because the only one I might not am I am. I am ethical badge there. So that's just my opinion. There's more than welcome to disagree. So after this next break we're going to talk about the unfortunate early exit of ten. Is's or I mean I was GonNa say women tends to be just tennis. As a whole's biggest star car and Serena and if I think she if she will be able to find a way to win that allusive twenty four singles Grand Slam title. There's talk about that. Run up to the brink. Are you looking to get your college football. Beck's looking to get the latest news on your favorite school dean. The Diaz Empty College football podcast is your ticket to all things college football doing us as we talk college football from the National Championship. The college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy so which converts it's the best we've got you covered the big ten as these these big twelve the PAC twelve. ABC and everything in between download the GMC we call it football. podcast on Itunes Stitcher soundcloud. Google play or anywhere you find podcasts jazz tied gs in St in the search Bar uh-huh and we are back it's cast network wanted to stay one thing in the last segment. I did mention how Andy Reid is known Nevada in big moments and I can Amin. I am ashamed of myself that I forgot that. PK OFF got to give the blood marshawn Lynch to the one yard line so so While any does have his own set of blunders and I was still taking care of him I forgot that Pekao does have arguably the biggest blunder into what history so so I bought Andy for not making a pro in in a given checking his procon because at least he doesn't have that on his resume he does not have forgetting to give the ball to may be one of the short down bax in the NFL time. Now I remember when when Heathens as came out and that he wasn't that good on third and fourth and one listed in ensuring yard situation that season but again it's marshawn Lynch Hoopla yet. He just guide and down to the one yard Lonzo vehicle. Knock on your resume but other things as that are good but often. I forgot that he does have that black mark on his On his legacy as a head coach so the deficit the close the the Mexican apple but closer between him. and Andy. Reid as they'll take care Andy Reid is in news inching up closer. Forgot about how big the bundle that was. But much about. That am on to Serena and if you weren't aware Serena was knocked out of the Australian Open this past weekend in the third round In she lost in three sets Yeah and it was just like I say it's another situation. Where with no chance for her to get that twenty? Four Grand Slam singles title to be able to tie a Margaret Court for the most all time and just a situation where just like you have to unfortunately start wondering if that elusive twenty Grand Slam title is going to come because because even even just like I guess a couple of weeks ago I think to actually in New Zealand Eliza. ASP Classic. Yeah the classic was her first even just Tournament win since Search News. The first final she had one on the W. T. A. Tour and the and the first Torma she wants a Chintzy had given birth. 'cause she she had won the twenty seventeen Australian Open while Means surprising surprising to us at the time. A sports as we were unaware She was eight weeks pregnant almost around the weeds by time she wants. I mean that's a very impressive feat For anybody but also I mean it's winning a professional tournaments in Dennis's impressive again anyway but doing it while almost two two months pregnant makes it even that much more impressive thanks. You did that then. An on going to take time off and everything because of the child and our them. That made a lot of sense but is the fact that you'd be able to do that. Then you figure okay. Once she's Baxter should be fine and she'll be able to Get back in when that next. Translate to tie her Margaret and. She has been able to do that yet. I think she's lost four coming into this tournament. She had lost four the La for the last six Grand Slam finals. I think she had lost Another one in different forms again. She was still looking for that elusive women for the asa as classic and she was able to get that wants to to get that monkey off her back back when unfortunate she was not able to get the Grand Slam monkey off her back. And we're just left wondering when if it's GonNa come because as we've seen gene with the likes of people she's lost who she lost Now meals soccer in a in a tournament final. She's lost to Brianca. Okay something but again those two guys. Those two were there younger guys delicious. I bear and then you see what Kogo Cocoa Golf is. The two or if you didn't see Cocoa Gov who's young teenager just beat Naomi Osaka who's been struggling since she had those two Grand Slam wins and in. What in a little over a year ago it begin you see that they are young players coming in that unfortunately are not as well? I guess not unfolding voting. But just aren't a scare aren't scared of Serena the way multiple were during her heyday and now she she still probably we the best women's tennis player ever in my own opinion by one of the most dominant athletes ever in any sport. So you don't assume that should never be able to get the job done but you have to start. You'd have to start thinking about. I mean it's been coming up this year Matt on the US Open come around oriented will come trying to roussel. Last one she won was the yeah was showing openness use by the so. It's been WHO's been three years since then. She's last won a tournament and it just like I said she's got into the final but she usually hasn't really been doing that. Well once you get to the finals for whatever reason I can't I can't I can't tell you exactly. I'm not a tennis. Expert per se buys no. She's just been struggling. She uses losing in straight sets in those Finals and is just like all right right. When is that time going to comfort to get that because the added with an athlete of that caliber Never WanNa say is never going to happen again? You see the way. People talked about Tom Brady after the comeback. They're like oh he's done. That will be after the. Like the Falcons. Like oh he's done by the last one he'll be able to win the name they went back Then they went back again. The next year lost the eagles and they went back in the after that. beat the rams and he didn't get it done mission many people including myself as probably end of their run by things more so because he might he the Patriots and I just don't I don't know how much I'm he'll be able to do with the coach is in bill Bill Belichick but yet if people think that he's done I mean people on rightfully so author Tiger Woods is done and then obviously he was able to win a mass was. I believe it was last year and he was able to get. I mean he's only he's only up to fifteen majors now. So you still three back of the record but now is on that many people thought was way passing between the leg off feel off the field off the core staff and Injuries and surgeries. He's had to go through all the last ten plus years many people thought he was never gonNA. I mean he'd want some tournaments here and there but then people bull didn't think that he was going to be able to Get back to be able to win a major. And then he was able to do so. I think. That's probably what gives me some level of hope for Serena because if dyer can do it who many people thought should've hung it out probably two to three years ago if he can come back and win a major and still play like this'll be I think he finished what tie for ninth in the most recent tournament. This This past weekend so yes I mean he's still doing he still able to keep going. Keep plan out of relatively high level. I said Serena's outside of announces. She Lawson awesome thoroughness while machine. You'd have been making it to the final of a lot of the recent Grand Slams so who using all it takes and she'd need to recapture the magic one more time for one day but just like after a certain point and Adam has does have to start weighing on you. I mean she's those thanks thanks Chinky. She still thinks she can do it around. I think she can do many. Who around the sport and around the world so that she can do it such as one one of those things where it's going to be hard for her to give up on this goal coming out? I don't think this was her goal role in the beginning but then as you win when you win the the twenty third one while eight weeks pregnant you think all right. Let's get back out. He wants to get my body back together with I get back in shape about the training. I should be able to win one more in the Nasi. She has made me do that. Over the the last two and a half or so you got energy took six months off after after the pregnancy and stuff so she has many of the last two years she has been able oh to She has been able to get that elusive win and imagine with each tournament that passes. Would he grow sanitizer. She isn't able to win the pressure she pipe was on herself of That people around and put on gets higher and higher just to be able to get this elusive title but then again this other. That's the kind of issues. Obviously I imagine what the person that has accepted her level. Once you get that tie you probably don't WanNa get the twenty fifth one. Who can you go like? I tied the record. Mind will try to break it now. You just WanNa final enormous at the time took her to get this one who knows how long it taking to get the next one so like I said. I don't with the person at her level in her ability in his head that ability and has been as nominee she has freed so many years and again seeing. What what? I've seen what I've seen. It will seeing what Tom Brady and tiger woods done unless for years years. I'm not going to just say with the complete in the most that she's not going to when it would get another grand slam singles title and I don't I don't I'm not gonNA began. She'd done 'cause like I said she's one of the greatest athletes ever so it's hard for me to say that about her But yeah it's just. It's an interesting thing to wonder if it's ever going to happen because if you're a fan of tennis your fantasy arena. You want to happen for her. Because again she's one of the most dominant athletes of all time arguably best woman tennis player of all time. So you WANNA see. You're able to get that one last heidel title to cap off an exceptional career. But you just like I said but each tournament pass in each granny but she wasn't able to win. It's more and more for the next one to be the one or does speculation is more and more of is next one. I'm going to be the winner or even when she's GonNa Retire. I mean she's a little on that she's done a lot. She's accomplish. Basically all you can accomplish in that sport. That much left for her to do so. It's just like after pointing Hemingway tournaments for granted. Unfortunately no I'm done and that's kind of what we didn't go through just it. Does she decided it's too much before she's able to get that last one. I hope not. I don't think it will be but again. Would I be surprised you the way now. So we'll we'll see it's unfortunate that she was not able to get the to get to get this Get the win at the Australian Open. We'll see what happens in the majors and the grandparents to come this year. But yeah it's just it's just there's it wishing is interesting storyline to follow or I know people having following which is interesting as far as the see when and if that elusive twenty fourth grand slam title singles title. When and if she is able to capture that Malaysia said we will see as the year goes? So lastly here today I want to talk about with the with the first month of the year. Getting Ready to come to an end this week. I want to talk about some things that I'm looking forward to in the next couple of months in the sports world and I will give you my top five of those things right if his break. Check out this show built around the women from the UFC INVICTA at CPAC deep tour championship. We got the fights cover. It's the golden state media concepts women's May podcast. The latest news of coming flights discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present present and future. When it's the women's fight game you know to listen to the golden state media concepts? Women's emanate podcast the Back here again on the G. The S. M. C. Sports Caster my G. S. M. C.. podcast network so night said the years just beginning getting there are many events that are going to happen throughout the course of this year but asked him to focus it more so on the next couple of months ago but yeah yeah I'm GonNa talk about the events that for two non super bowl obviously just because the soup was happening next week. It's and I just didn't think that would be fair. Putting south here by looks forward to to the Super Bowl side in my in the non superbowl division. I've been talking about a couple of things off. Mataafa go five to one and the number five thing I'm looking forward to as the NBA. Trade deadline. Ause they may trae demands always interesting time every just to see. WHO's on the move who what rumors are out there? Who's WHO's being speculated betrayed who ends up getting trade? There hasn't really been any big big trades that I can remember. Please feel free to let me know anything any big ones. I may forgot The it hasn't been that many that many or any really that can think of big trades AIDS so far this NBA season and that trade deadline is what February sixth. I believe so that is about a week in some change away. So it's not enough time to get some on the piece of moving. Ambience has valves had been the locker room with swelling around by. Derrick rose about another Lakers and six years at both been interested in I mean. Zoos could definitely a guy came because they need A point guard that can be able to handle the ball upset at the often so Benson the have to do that house. He's very good at it but I think being able to do more power for things could benefit him as a whole in two thousand not you have to defend him differently when he's at the pope when he's in the polls along the base and then when he's out of the top of the key kind of silly that the obstacle people can sag off them and offset congest. The the defense makes the offense hearted function but if you will allow him to play more powerful and you can have derrick. Rose Ben Simmons pick and roll and and it was like who do you. You can't just. You can't a double team. Can you get Ben. Simmons going downhill where he's great and also what the the has been is ability to facilitate tate. He can find the open guy if you try to help over on him or whoever. So you can't just gain is double derrick rose but then you also can't double Ben Assumes has been decorative showmanship. He's been he's been very good. He's very lashing low. He's been great this year offensively. So he's he's the guy that will make you pay if you don't give them the proper respect on the offensive end so he could use the nauseous somewhere thing for the Lakers. Just because obviously They could use a guard. That is not Rajon Rondo. I mean he hasn't necessarily been exactly what the doctor ordered for the Lakers. This year. And again Okay interesting just because a lot of the people they brought in this year were guys. It played against Legrand In the past whether it's like dating green or McGee not or Rondo or everybody just funding to add derrick rose at list of former opponents of the brain that are now on his own team. That kind of finding awesome. Lei said they can use it. Services just allow again as an area where you would allow someone else to facilitate the ball wendy with either with The bottom of the quarter. When he's out on the court you can you can have another guy out there that can handle the boys have to worry about plane like Rondo? Ravin they Caruso somebody now. These incapable of just having somebody you with more offensive ability handled a ball so you're not just relying solely on Ham Davis if he's not if if he's not in the game both men that are both the morning the game announcer you. Your best option is coups. Mahouz fine but you can be a little hit or miss so diggers give you more consistent option in that regard. Gosh I think that would be able to get him. And then you got Drumming on same team was some rumors circulating about him and possibly being traded on. I'll maybe to the hawks. They they could be in the use of Senators another good teammate. For trae young. 'cause he's he's been great this season but again ally that you just been out there by himself. Which is unfortunate for him He's an option in German option. We traded see what the thunder do. Are they going to be buyers sellers. I mean obviously coming into the season. Many people thought guys like gown Nari or Adams or for in Dennis Schroder. Or even Chris Paul GonNa potentially be on the move and there's GonNa completely take this season but the team's been very good. I believe I saw something where they're like twenty to eat in the last like thirty games complain. They've just been great and after they've been talk on this podcast they've been one of the best teams in the clutch this season. So it makes I can buca mistaken. They decided that like. Hey now we're not gonNA brakebest Huma. We may even try to add something knighted. Maybe just Insane Practice Mon is when it makes sense to. Brigham does going to whose address moment make plans. The eighth seed in the West Right now was below five hundred the record. So it's like why would we. You have to aid right now. Is The grizzlies who twenty two and twenty four The thunder are twenty eight and nineteen nineteen so there are five and a half games clear. I think when you do the math you five and a half games clear of the. They're only a game back of the five Z.. E. So they could very well be this five seed by the time. The trade deadline comes around. They're only they're only four Napkin back to the fourteen in five games overall back from the two seats like they're well within position to move up in the standings Oakland said it would make sense for them. Nurse are selling pieces. Offer me again. Maybe maybe Saint Presi may have a plan. We'll see what he decides to do back. That could just be an interesting aspect to see who If they decide to train when also to see any the other teams whether it's was spur the note derozen an audience have been talking about Tend to being on the move where the blazers tried. I mean. They can't really do much but maybe try to have somebody that he and I talked about. China add somebody who they can. Add this South may be could use another. I mean they're they're senators are good did with Tyson candidate people talk about them. Adding another senator See if there's a bunch there's a decent amount of teams that could stand Hansa maybe an ad bugling trade off a guy so that mentioned the that's kind of one of the events. I'm looking forward to another one. Is this kind of like a general thing thing but dislike which. NCA team is going to separate themselves lousy. If you've been following college basketball this season and he informed me but there's there hasn't really been that dominant dominant team. I mean there's been a bunch of different one sees. The season has been a bunch of ranked team that lost the unranked especially like a top five. I think thing was a a couple of weeks ago. Like two three four and five all lost to unranked teams twice a week. So this has been a season where Tom Everyone seems on evil in a level playing field. I'M GONNA say even but a level playing field terms of like going into any game. Any team can win an unflattering flipside. Any team could lose an OSCE heading into the NCAA tournament or heading into the conference warming stuff like that. You hope to be able to find some teams. I can separate themselves and put themselves clear your head of the pack but as of right now every hasn't happened yet saw to see over the next month or change earned as the conference play definitely heats up an analogy as the tournament's Musee Tournament heats up. You want to see if there will be a guy or now guy maybe. Maybe it was a guy a player gonNA helpful to see. One backing helps carry a team in capital them into that high rank and obviously also any team out there that will we'll be able to separate themselves and kind of distinguish themselves from everybody else who I said as of right now. Everything seemed kind of in the area known as you are to say for certain who the WHO's going to be like the one who's GonNa be the best thing that I think. I saw an article village. So many teams on the bubble now so many teams like doing well at Ram. That records is doing very while this year. And a Penn State doing decides to you Kinda have a founder low bit send some conference play but just like a couple of teams like he like that where you're just like these are basketball schools better now. They're having very good years So just like you don't really know what to expect to see this. I'm interested to see how how the rest of the fabric leading is warm. It kinda plays out over the next Few weeks so another event I can't run grouped together. Several months is song I was GonNa say the draft and the and free agency against the two separate events like There's a good amount of time between the two of them. I will just stick with the draft maniac. WanNa see do the bengals. Screw this up because in my I'm on the minds of the people that decision seems simple. Like hey you need. A quarterback is a quarterback available. He's from Ohio. Just take him. They can take him and be done with it by mention. Cu will they. I mean never knows far out but like or are they going to trade the pick wool they randomly branly fall in love. Like a guy like Justin Herbert with like all of a sudden they do. Talk with to Do more research on Ham. Do they decide to like. Hey now we're going to take the risk to entered see there and then also like I like. We talked about the last pockets. There's going to be a lot of quarterback movement potentially could be autocorrect movement and because of that their main impute teams trading up To go get quarterbacks I know some of those things but I think I was after senior boss an article course all somebody reporting that like as many as five quarterback in the first round or even not even just I I like the first half I might borough. I think it was it was it was borough to Justin. Herbert joined love and like there was one other quarterback that essentially going like the top fifteen and they also that had that happens that shakes up everything. Good now you have a very good skill position players very good Defensive players lions like the fall down from the draft and then teams look at our also but then also with the picks that could pinching me a lot of movement where teams will be trading up kings will be trading down that kind of stuff so I think offering to seek. She was instinct to some top level. Guys that may not be staying with their teams this this upcoming season. I think I'll just decide as the draft Kazaa mean and whatever the whatever whatever the bengals do could change things announced. I think the next big one is the lines. Because they're like. I said they're team. That if the staff is we think is they could potentially get a quarterback and if they do data than that that completely shakes up the whole draft that they were team spoke to get like defensive. I was like removing on alignment or somebody so they take Mike to our justin harbored or joined love or somebody at the number. Three spot Shakeup everything's nothing's going to have to move because they know that quarterback gone off the board quickly teams like maybe Miami. Amy Try to maybe not MILIA teams. Miami much ought to move up to four to get to John's teams like the Patriots or not majors the panthers or the charges and mighty maybe try to trade up with the giants and get the quarterback so they don't miss out players that I'm always. I'm always a bigger draft. Our mortgage Kinda see all the different movement that happens on draft night. So that's kind of my thing That's number three number to be what happens with these baseball managerial situations. Because absolutely if you don't know the mets hired a new a new manager. Louis Ross I believe is his name. Yeah he was. He was with the mets. That flashy. We're just GONNA be He's GonNa be John's right hand In kind of help him apple and obviously with the whole situation avenue awesome thing he also helped him. He also managed some of their Minor League affiliates for the mets. so He's been around the mechanism for a little bit of a while so very for him that he was able to get bumped up a US like yeah. He was going to be a quality control. Coach Tornado season. The now she wants the Beltran thing and the Astros thing happened. They promoted him to manager. which again makes you don't have to go out and trying to new guy? But then that leaves the the Astros and the red SOx patients that opens mentioned to see what happens with those and also kind of what happens in those press counts when those new Gaza announced especially the ones very instinct to me is the red sox won. Because there's a chance they might and I think it'd be hard to the hiring manager before I even know what the pound against the team. which for me? If I'm a manager and a candidate for that position that would give me pause because it's like all right hold on untimely. Little like what's going to happen. I WANNA know like works. Were deficit might be able to pay. Might be losing any players like what like what at all like. I don't like take like what happened. Here what are the penalty and the punishment going to be before I take that job is obviously. You've certain everything's calmed down now. I didn't know we're GONNA happen in that obscene ruins The that that that gives me this man does manage. I would want to know that before it happened so I think that amazing racing to see If the Red Sox are able to find the guy before on The punishment comes out. I don't think they will not. They should take bad jobs again. You want to know what those pumps are going to be knocking on Asher side. Just like there's GonNa be a lot of scrutiny of is GonNa come with that Bang and have a lot to deal with because affect you guys. Is it GONNA be so hated thrusting entire league and where you go People are gonNA be boohooing peak. We're going to be banging on stuff whenever era pitching People are GonNa be shouting things going to have signs and stuff wherever you go and just like you need to have a manager is going to be able to keep the team focus do all that because if people are GonNa be to play well on OSCE do it in a clean. 'EM legal way so you need to have a guys ready to step in and handle that Because if you're not then that team could just turn to disaster. And they're just not ready to handle being the villains of the League at a level that they weren't already announced the teams teams. That win. The people are going to turn them off. That's there already invented agreement. Now they're they're the they're the only moment that got caught cheating so it'll be interesting to see like how the man the new manager will be able to handle that and also what he will what he will do to try to make sure that the astros container keep up their excellence. They've had over the last couple of seasons though. I mean some that is now tainted as we know but tank. We didn't and find out anything last year. They did not lashing. I mean at this point. They don't have the benefit of the doubt good integrity cheat according to the MLB take with that. What you will But Yeah we should see they can contain Ceska and they were in the world series. Actually this is a good team ellen piece. Is You lose gear. Kohl's that hurts of the no-one's none of the players are suspended. All those guys back so in theory they should be better. It'd be just as good. This'll be interesting trying to see what they decide to do. That's number two and the number one for me. At least you may have a different than you do for me. It would have to be deontay wilder Tyson fury round to just because I hope and pray please. Judges don't let this one ended tied to take another tar. Honestly I mean I hate ties in sports in general like I just hate I hate. The fact is possibly Fatai and Football Ed. This wide open like watching regular-season hockey or Zakian schools. Like in theory. They could end in a time like I could just watch two three hours of of a game gene and just get no resolution after it's done and that's the same way you feel fights 'cause they can end in ties fights could end in ties as well as always. I was unfortunate happen. Yes I just hope that he was a winner in this one. The only talked about one was First announced this was very entertaining. Fight right the first time around and I'll see you had the the shot where you thought the Ottawa had won it. And the next thing you know My Boy Tyson fury this possible at the undertaker and as you thought and Yenam still around US allow dopamine. The the ten count may have been a rose load depending on who you wanted to win that fight I thought and start a little late. Maybe look That's what happened in house. He ended up being tired. Even though I'm not that still think somebody I think so. The fury probably could one before then but here nor there. I'm ready for every match. I am ready. Let's see what happens and like I said as long as it doesn't end in a tie I will be happy and as well as also assuming good fight. I don't I am hoping for on imagining that. It will be a good fight but at the various as long as hand into time. There's a decision made whether that's where the fight is do that themselves with a knockout or a Tko or they just like doug able to come to a decision whatever it may be as least US leasing. It was a decision so they have to go through Taivon now to can have we can potentially have a part three maybe even a par four to this depending on what happens in the bar three and then there's more if I set up there. There's another time. I don't know what you due at the heavyweight division in terms of because they neither of them were lost the fight. So it's like did do any of them like nother resumes like increase. They don't decrease necessarily they don't also increased either glossy having a win over the antiwar out or having went over Tyson fury and resume would be a big deal except the Anthony Joshua stuff and it's like okay. Okay we got some got some things we piece that we can maneuver around but all that can't happen if they decide to fight in another tie so please. I'm praying praying that that's odd one. Just don't let entire whatever happens happens that'd be fun. That'd be when I'm very much looking forward to that one. Um I'm that ones I think that goes down with February twenty second if I were exciting for a second. Sorry I'll get your popcorn ready. Make sure you are tune in for that. Nothing that's going to be a good one is that if the last indication it should be a good one but just hopefully it doesn't and in anytime I hope for Ige's don't and in Atar that's really. It's really can't believe that they had a split decision. Draw was absurd and it was controversial and rightfully so because that was but whatever those in my top five sports related events that I'm looking forward to in the next couple of months F- breath who has had some things you looking forward to. And if you as euless different than monitoring you listen looking for some of the same things we can talk about that so you can find us us on social media twitter facebook instagram And we are we are. We can talk about the thing that you're looking forward to now talk about things I'm before receive. 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