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"mount kailash" Discussed on Truth Be Told

Truth Be Told

08:18 min | 3 weeks ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Truth Be Told

"That i didn't i didn't realize in hearing that. So he know what you were saying about the separation to kind of makes me think about the pause that we hear sometimes in music. And i know you're very Your musical tastes are very broad. And your influences also are not just from indian ragas but also american rock and know what i would what i say more roots music and things like that so just talking about music. In general i'd say the pause. Right i mean the pregnant pause between notes also can be very powerful. The pause between so underrated. My god you know is like as well as the dissonance that that you know van resolution and you know this separation connections separation connection. It is so powerful if music is moving along at an even clip and there's never any tension there's never any pause what can still be quite beautiful but after a while it gets tiresome whereas will not tiresome boring maybe the word a when there are those pauses. Were just waiting waiting for the divine kiss. You know or the human kiss and get away for a second and then there is so much richer right like that. Good things come to those who wait indeed so all right Shall we talk about shiva. Lord shiva mantra for me again in my studies in the back in new york Before just tiptoeing into awareness around this chanting. I'm just now thinking about this. As i speak to you but chanting omnia masha via. And what that did for me. It was another really transcended experience for me is so that's always one of my favorites and i know on your new record. You've got a really beautiful Version of of you're very very long. Meditative version onuma. She is one of the ancient ancient mattress in an and of course. In in many of the yoga studios Will see picture statues of sheva. Dancing shiva is the deity of who sits at the end of every cycle. Whether it's a site universal cycle or whether it's just go down to the breath you know the end of the breath she is. That is that lord of transformation. He is called the destroyer his because he's the one who destroys illusion who rips away the veils but she has also very very benevolent. And he's considered to be the easiest aspect of god to invoke to to to ask for favors so to speak. She up he'll. He is often pictured. He lives on mount kailash which is right next to everest mount everest in tibet. It's a real real mountain and she has got a long long dreadlocks and he's in his his body is covered with ash. And he's got the ganges river descending from heaven into his top notch and then flowing gently down to earth and he is a really radical. Will we own no mashi via one of the more. I say universal understandings of what that mantra means. We're saying own which is the primordial sound and then mob is. I offer myself. I bow to i offer my will to the will to underachievers she via so. It's like saying not my will but i offer myself to the ocean of benevolent consciousness. Sheva i wanna talk about that. Thank you for that explanation and again. I'm learning all the more every time each year. I'm learning all the time too isn't isn't it grand so with them. I i hear a lot about duality. And it's something that i myself have Contemplate a lot. Just because i think were feel that we're supposed to always be happy and up and feel fantastic and sometimes you don't So you were talking about chiba As a destroyer. And i thought maybe we could talk a little bit about what that's meant for you Particularly in this last year For all of us in as we are in twenty twenty one at the moment as we speak but looking back on the last eighteen months. And i i'd like to ask specifically about the song that i mentioned that closes your record. Let me burn. you can talk a little bit about the devotion That really pours out of that song as well as the title track. Let me burn. So i'll let you kinda jump around between those two hundred globally personally individually. This has been a tough time and unfortunately it's not looking like it's completely over but when the when the pandemic started the there's a goddess actually the consort of shiva the beloved of lucia shocked who manifests in many many different forms. In one of her forms is karuna which means compassion. So i was started out by calling corona of his calling it karuna haroona mom and this is just framing for my own for my own. Hopefully psychological wellbeing. Maybe because i of course like everyone was completely freaked out. But when i could frame this thing as the divine mother. Mother earth compassionately destroying evil. You know the way sheva and his beloved shocked he does. I could feel more. Come and see what was happening. See the skies were getting clearer and and that the water's flowing more more freely. However as the months dragged. Donna's the munster don we know there. It was very very difficult. And i kept intention. You know i was doing weekly live streams and and really struck trying to stay connected with with people i was as we were social Distancing i was trying very hard to keep the intention of soul and heart. Not distancing of closeness gets even more close but that dichotomy between my own anxiety and my own fears as well as my own spiritual intentions creates friction and of fire and this fire was like you know i considered a purifying fire of my heart in the hearts of everyone. Who has that kind of intention. But we were burning and the earth is still burning in humanity is still burning and and i pray that the burning li it brings us to openness. You know i at the beginning of the pandemic thought well at the end of this. We're either going to have people standing after doors with shotguns. Or we're gonna have open heart communities working together to build and create nurture a world can last and now that the is semi over in california. We see that both things happen. Some people became much more locked in in fear isolation and other people became much more open and and grateful for the the community in the love that we have anyway it is.

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"mount kailash" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

05:37 min | 8 months ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

"Someone else I would be the fastest smartest art. The company. It doesn't really matter. It's about you won't have what it takes to handle what's in front of me right now. And then some. That's what we all want. No. How did you get into the ideas of fats for fuel? And the whole bulletproof coffee idea. Where did that come from? I did what any good healthy person is supposed to do. I went plant based I just did that in 2003 the camera Ravi again. I've always been kind of ahead of the current would want to try any diet that would give me more energy or help me keep the weight off. Always felt great for about six weeks, which is what normally happens then I started to get Really, really sick. And as I did more in my research, I realize Oh, wait. It's the vegan diet. That's making you sick, but it took me a long time to figure that one out. And it turns out the way you fix yourselves. When a plant based diet breaks them is you have higher amounts of fat. But they have to be the right kinds of fat. The problem that we have is the country. They were eating a lot of these Omega six The seed oils, soybean, corn, vegetable oil, some flour, safflower oil, canola oil. Those are all plant based, and unfortunately our cells in our body those air, animal based cells, and they do not do well on this kind of fat and over time, our ability to turn to sugar or the protein of the how we need to turn it into energy. It goes down. That's the kind of power he so I didn't just get in the path of fuel. I got into the right fat for fuel, and that changed everything for me how that happened. Two big things happened that don't seem related. One of them. Said. I'm going to go learn meditation from the masters into that, because, hey, why not? When you kind of desperate you'll do anything. All right. I'm on the slopes of Mount Kailash 65 days of driving in a four wheel drive to get there. It's considered the Mount Olympus of the East. You really did this, Okay, really making it up. And it's 18,000 FT elevation. You're supposed to feel really bad because there's no air? Yeah, and it's 10 degrees below zero, and I am truly feeling really bad. A little Tibetan woman. And I said Well, because she was half my height, their relatively short and then 64 Wow. She gives me yak butter tea. Which is exactly what it sounds like It's tea with yak butter blended into it. They drink it. And my brain turned on, and it was I felt better than I had felt in years. It made no sense because I should be feeling like a high altitude mountaineer. I'm trained in high altitude mountaineering, and I just wrote in my little travel journal. Why do I feel so good? When I drink all the activity? I could get my hands on and I had the Most amazing three days walking around this town that you could imagine Came back to Silicon Valley a couple months later. I bought some butter and have some tea and it tasted bad It didn't work. I'm gonna experiment so I bought $1000 worth of expensive tea varieties at the gourmet tea store. And Not a bit, worked up about 25 kinds of brother and pounded on Lee Grass fed butter worked It's in the type of fat that's in the butter When you feed a cow, corn and soy. The butter is basically soybean, oil and coral. Even organic ones, like doesn't work. Help. Had the recipe. Then I said, well, What if I used coffee? I've been on copy for five years because it makes me wanna wanna make they get anxious and cranky. Tired. I want sugar payment, Then I want to punch people. Well, it turns out a lot of coffee in the U. S isn't very clean. The fermentation process introduces options that We're allowed to have in a coffee in the U. S. But China, Japan and Europe reject coffee with those toxins, So we get it. So it turns out some coffee. I felt great on of the coffee. I didn't know I had a way to make clean coffee. Put grass fed butter but not the other Butters in I added something called M C T oil that I knew about from the early Alzheimer's research. The anti aging group is doing it took about 1000 generations to get some of that tasted great and something that reliably with every friend, they drink it go. What just happened? Uh, go. I was hungry. But now my brain is on a faster right now has been a few 100 million cups of bulletproof coffee served. People lost a million pounds on the bulletproof diet. It's been a cultural phenomenon. I'm like in major TV shows all over the place for 10 years now, and it literally came from a trip to Tibet, combined with anti aging knowledge and a sincere desire to never feel like crap again. I love that. You know, I've never heard that story, David, just where you put it all together like that on your journey of how you put these things together now. Do you have a bulletproof every day or if you changed it over the time being the Just being the creator that you are. I am always experimented. There's some mornings now that I fixed my metabolism, and I've become an expert in fasting. I started doing and even writing about intermittent fasting 10 years ago. And I have a community of hundreds of thousands of people who have worked with And once you do this kind of higher, healthy fact cutting out the bad fats. Kind of diet. Overtime yourself become more powerful. It's like having the Tesla with a big battery or the little battery hens. When it happens, there are mornings when I wake up..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

05:55 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"You know if I say yet, you major picture, bigfoot or skunk ape. Whatever the regional variation of this creature is and I do think that is important is. To think about the fact that there are variations of the wild man. Being in various cultures, basically like a bipedal creature, covered in hair that is seen all around the world, but has distinct origins in each case right yes. But It was looking at I wanted to get a like a better snapshot of the this ape like beast. as far as like Himalayan traditions go, so I ran across a very very insightful. A piece titled Boonies Tales of the Yeti by Kuehne Zane Coton Tales of the creature exists through the Himalayan region. and. The author points to the different names that are given to this entity so into bip Tabet. There's gangs me or glacier man. There's me Sean Poe or strongman, and each in Poe or great man The SHERPAS College Yeti the lectures. Call it Chew Moon or Snow Goblin I like that one or low moon or Mountain Goblin in Paul. There's Nihil new or Ban Monchy. He didn't provide a track translation translation for those, but I'm assuming some treatment on these various ideas you know and then the Bhutanese say migo or strong man also Greg Poe so we get this idea of like figure of of savage cold strength with possible. You. Know Ga Goblin a qualities as well. So showed rights that the the Migo I idea here dates back to the pre Buddhist bond writings, the the pre Buddhist, animist religion. We mentioned this briefly in the last episode, the indigenous religion of Tibet it came up because Mount Kailash. Amount, Kyle, Lhasa in in the Himalayas is a peak that is holy, not just to Hindus who believe some of whom believed that Lord Shiva and Parvathi dwell on top of Mount Kailash, but it's also holy to some Buddhists, Jane's and members of the bond religion that the Tibetan indigenous religion. Religion and apparently some bon rituals call for the blood of Migo, a slain with a sharp weapon. WHOA, yeah, so yeah, so this was a pre existing idea, but then you get some Westerners involved writing, and then you get this idea exported, and and and reignited in the Western mind so British Traveller William Hugh night of the royals the royal..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

08:37 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"Credit laster full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash. Give back for more INFO and eligibility. We're back all right. What are we getting next rubber? Right so looking at a study. This that you found in the night ended up diving into. It was yeah, yeah, yeah. I was interested in I didn't know about this one because it seemed like some of the well. Will you describe it? And then we can discuss okay. Yeah, this one was titled Why revelations have occurred on mountains, linking mystical experiences and cognitive neuroscience This was published in Medical Hypotheses Twenty fifteen. From ours back. Lancet and blankie. Quote, here's a quote from the peace quote. Prolonged stay at high altitudes, especially in social deprivation may also lead to prefrontal lobe dysfunction, such as low resistance to stress and a loss of ambition based on these phenomena, logical, functional and neural findings we suggested exposure to altitudes might contribute to the induction revelation experiences, and might further our understanding of the mountain metaphor in religion, so they're really going for it. Yeah on this win and they they point to the major revelations in the three major monotheistic religions. Judaism, the burning Bush This is God speaks through the burning Bush. This is from exodus. Christianity is transfiguration from the book of Matthew. This is in which Jesus divine nature is revealed on lookers. And, then in Islam there's also the the point where all speaks to the Prophet Mohammad. In that also like a mountain revelation. Now. One of the problems here is getting into the idea of insufficient altitudes right? Yeah, so I'd seen. The study brought up on science blog somewhere and I thought. It was interesting because touching on question. We're asking, but I saw it in the context of it, being ridiculed because the main mountains that it's talking about aren't really that hot right, so they're not like super high mountains that would be likely to cause altitude sickness right right? Yeah, they're not dealing with Himalayan peaks here, right This is what the paper says. Though about the idea of moderate altitudes, they said although the revelations discussed here had occurred in moderate altitudes. It may be assumed that in subjects who are prone to mystical experiences. Already moderate altitudes are sufficient to trigger river revelation like experiences and revelations so. The, argument here I guess is is first of all you know not not. Everyone's going to have the same reaction to altitude like we've discussed right and that even moderate high altitude they're arguing could be sufficient. Potentially is one of those more research needed areas right, but it could be enough to push. People. Minds toward mystical experiences, especially those minds are already susceptible to say hallucination to voices or a to the experience of the supernatural, and then the the the remembrance of supernatural experience. You know it's funny that they focus on like the Abraham MC, monotheistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam because in the last episode. You remember we had a discussion how it seems to me that That actually sacred geography plays less of a role in the Ibrahimovic religions than it does in many other religions around world whereas. In Abraham religions, it seems that when place is wholly, it's usually because the idea. The something important happened there, whereas in many other religions around the world, the place itself has some religious significance, the re the land itself the mountain is the home of the Gods, or is the body of a God, or is sacred in its own right, not just because of something that happened there right i. Imagine there could be room for a lot of theological discussion in each of these three religions, but yeah all three of these, even as we were mentioning him. We were mentioning the event they were mentioning in the paper, the event that took place the meeting of of an individual and the divine, for instance in the case of the the the the Islam examples. So. At this point I want to turn to. A. Particular Mountain entity because I think it lines up with some of what we were just discussing year, and that's that entity is the Yeti. Everybody's favourite cooler. No, not the cooler I mean unless the cooler has an actual yet the in it. That'd be a good trick. Discovered one, what was it the whether somebody in Georgia? WHO claimed they had a big fluid and like a beer cooler and was like a freezer. There's a whole whole thing about ten or eleven years ago. Yeah! I remember it well, because for one fleeting second It made me wonder. Are we about to know that there is a sasquatch? And of course it turned out to not be the case. It was like a costume or something right now. The Eddie in modern Western culture it has become just kind of a Himalayan variant of the SASQUATCH. You know if I say yet, you major picture, bigfoot or skunk ape. Whatever the regional variation of this creature is and I do think that is important is. To think about the fact that there are variations of the wild man. Being in various cultures, basically like a bipedal creature, covered in hair that is seen all around the world, but has distinct origins in each case right yes. But It was looking at I wanted to get a like a better snapshot of the this ape like beast. as far as like Himalayan traditions go, so I ran across a very very insightful. A piece titled Boonies Tales of the Yeti by Kuehne Zane Coton Tales of the creature exists through the Himalayan region. and. The author points to the different names that are given to this entity so into bip Tabet. There's gangs me or glacier man. There's me Sean Poe or strongman, and each in Poe or great man The SHERPAS College Yeti the lectures. Call it Chew Moon or Snow Goblin I like that one or low moon or Mountain Goblin in Paul. There's Nihil new or Ban Monchy. He didn't provide a track translation translation for those, but I'm assuming some treatment on these various ideas you know and then the Bhutanese say migo or strong man also Greg Poe so we get this idea of like figure of of savage cold strength with possible. You. Know Ga Goblin a qualities as well. So showed rights that the the Migo I idea here dates back to the pre Buddhist bond writings, the the pre Buddhist, animist religion. We mentioned this briefly in the last episode, the indigenous religion of Tibet it came up because Mount Kailash. Amount, Kyle, Lhasa in in the Himalayas is a peak that is holy, not just to Hindus who believe some of whom believed that Lord Shiva and Parvathi dwell on top of Mount Kailash, but it's also holy to some Buddhists, Jane's and members of the bond religion that the Tibetan indigenous religion. Religion and apparently some bon rituals call for the blood of Migo, a slain with a sharp weapon. WHOA, yeah, so yeah, so this was a pre existing idea, but then you get some Westerners involved writing, and then you get this idea exported, and and and reignited in the Western mind so British Traveller William Hugh night of the royals the royal. Society's Club recorded a Yeti citing and nineteen three on his way back to India from Tibet, and then was another sighting in eighteen, twenty, five by a Westerner by a Greek zoologist in a time Bazi. Who described like this unquestionably figure in outline was exactly like a human, being walking upright and stopping occasionally to uproot or pull at some Dwarf Rhododendron It showed up dark against the snow and as far as I could make out wore no clothes. And then later you had print sightings and and so forth in the nineteen fifties that helped popularize the idea of the Yeti in the West..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

10:17 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"We we begin with the inferno We have Eventually in Book Three Wind up in paradise but to get there Dante and Virgil have to scale the mount of purgatorio. The earthly purgatory So this is a mountain that is that extends from Earth to the Threshold of Heaven and at the very top of the mountain at the very peak. That's where the earthly paradise is located the Eden of Of the Old Testament and Christian traditions. Okay so this does this makes more sense also if you know something about like Medieval Catholic theology right which which had this belief in the idea of purgatory. Where it wasn't hell. You know you weren't condemned there forever but you were basically good Christian but you did some sins that were not atoned for in so you have to go to purgatory before you can get to Heaven Ryan so you spend some time there in you know. It's not hell but it's not nice. It's not pleasant and you're stuck there until you essentially serve out your sentence your purified of your sin and then you can be admitted into heaven right. It is a literary symbolic representation of penitent Christian life again. No one holds that the amount of purgatory is a real place. It in very much a part of literature here but does service kind of a nice example of some of the same ideas of of mythological holy mountain. Well one thing I do like about the idea of of Holy Mountains including purgatory. Actually the amount of purgatory is that they do seem like an indication of older versions of religion. That were more That could be situated on earth because the lots of parts of earth. We didn't know about right. You know so like Dante could say well. Yes you can enter hell through a cave here and you go down then you can go up the mountain of purgatory and that's over here and that would be okay because you know. There's lots of the earth that he didn't know what was there. You could just assume it's somewhere undiscovered. Yeah now they're of course plenty of actual mountains that are considered sacred either by association with a Mythical World Mountain. You see that. From time to time where there's a mythological mountain in a nearby mountain becomes associated with the same ideas through traditions and then if we if we as we have explored in past episodes there's also the added dimensions various Pyramids ziggurats that Have been constructed as a sort of artificial mountain allowing the people who built them to participate in Mountain Top sacred rites and observances in some cases in regions where such peaks are are not Readily available well. Yeah and just like in the case say like in Mount Kailash where it is believed that Lord Shiva and Parvathi are dwell on top of the mountain the Ziggurat I think is interpreted by many modern scholars to have been thought to be a home of the gods by the people who use them so like maybe the priests would go up there and do some kind of right but it was also believed that the God would come down and like sleep. The night on the top of the Ziggurat may made even live there for some period absolutely You know and another quick thing. I want to mention in looking at various mountainous. I noticed that in your primordial beings often for mountains out of the soil or as we mentioned earlier they their bodies or the bodies of loved ones become the mountains. And you know it's it's easy to sort of take the formation of mountains for granted with even just sort of you know a casual understanding say plastic tonics and so forth Daily basically a surface level understanding of geology. But imagine trying to understand what a mountain was. If you really had no idea about any of these things I mean unless you were witness to volcanic eruption Are there there are mountain formation processes? That are going to be readily observable and so it makes as much sense if anything to turn to some of these These these these purely mythological and cosmic explanations for why they're there well you can get even weirder with it. I mean one of my favorite examples is the coolest place I've ever been the Mount Stephen Trial by beds up in Britain Mount Stephen British Columbia which is part of the Burgess Shale formation that I went to a couple of years ago. And so you try to imagine that not having a any kind of scientific understanding you go up a mountain and then up near the top. There's just like a cliff where pieces of of Rocker shearing off and got the imprint of strange undersea monsters on them. And it's like you have no idea of figuring out how so this once was sedimentary rock at the bottom of an ocean and it has been pushed up and made into a mountain over hundreds of millions of years yeah even knowing the geologic geological processes in in in place here it's still amazing to behold and well beyond the scope of a human lifetime and and really sort of natural human perception absolutely so Ran Through some more examples here. Holy Mounds it. Kinda give a nice overview of some of these different Different ideas I was reading about the din. Hey Bonday the Navajo. Creation Myth Complete with the creation recreation of the sacred mountains across five worlds so that involves the idea that four other worlds preceded the one that we live in now and this is an idea that POPs up in various Mesoamerican in native American religions. for the Aztecs Kawata APAC served as the mythical sacred mountain the Serpent Mountain in their mythical homeland ascalon and according to Nicoletta mastery on Thought Co the Great Temple of knocked. Alon is thought to be a replica of this holy mountain so another example of recreating the Holy Mountain. An artificial holy mountain created in the likeness of mythological form in norse mythology human bureau is the mountain where the by Frost connects Asgard and mid guard. And this is home of the God. him doll and then there's also perhaps the less famous nearby org and this is the hiding place of the mead of poetry. Oh Yeah Mount. Fuji is important in Japanese culture. It represents according to Birnbaum quote quest for beauty and simplicity that lies at the heart of Japanese culture and I think yeah. Mount Fuji is is one of these examples. That like it's it's a cultural. Let's put part of its cultural pride like it is a part of the natural geography that people can take pride in and find a sense of identity in one thing. I think every time I see an image of Mount Fuji is it just looks very visually. Perfect is very like gracefully sloped. Symmetrical only can only get a work of art. Yeah exactly if you go to Tanzania you'll find Mount Kilimanjaro and Some of the that the CIA people of that region their myths and beliefs about the dorm volcano hold that it contains gateways to the spirit world in Chinese mythology though. There are a few different. Holy Mountains of note. One is mount Buju or Boozer Sean. And Its associated with the Premier Mountains in Central Asia. And it's one of the skype pillars holding up the heavens and again this is the mountain trope found in various cultures There's a a myth in which was damaged by the Water God Gong Gong in his ancient battle for supremacy against the Yellow Emperor and then after the Olympic. Victory the goddess. Newel ahead to repair the damage but in Chinese myth The the Kunlun is perhaps the most important as described in the excellent handbook of Chinese mythology gang on Turner. It is not only a key pillar of the sky but also an abode of Gods and immortals and there are really a lot of descriptions of it and its various films. Magical trees magical animals. It's really an entire sacred ecology unto itself and if there's a particular magical plant magical item or sacred water that you wish to obtain then coon is the place you'll find it. Scott it all. Yeah it's it's everything it includes. It holds for instance the sweet spring and Emerald Lake the parole tree. The tree the tree of immortality Cinnabar River which prevents death. If you drink it the week river where nothing floats so it has. It has all the magical items in just scaling it scaling to the appropriate Terrace on the mountain. According to some traditions means that you can take on divine powers yourself. Over natural forces perhaps acquire immortality or even take on spirit status yourself again provided you know where to climb and you can survive. The dangers various important. Mythic events are sometimes set on the mountain including the goddess new ause marriage to her brother and the subsequent population of the world so again. That's just a that's just a few examples there so many other sacred mountains That we didn't we didn't have time to include or just didn't have time to research but again if we left one out that you're particularly fond of or you've visited yourself certainly right into us. Well and these I would point out are just the sacred mountains that have accumulated like myths with Staying Power Liars. Because I would say there are a number of now pretty well observed phenomena that would under normal circumstances be creating new sacred mountain myths all the time and maybe we should explore that when we come back from a break..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

06:38 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"We, of course have the three books right we. We begin with the inferno with eventually in book three. Wind up in paradise, but to get there. Dante and Virgil have to scale the mount of Purgatorio. The earthly purgatory so this is a mountain that is. That extends from Earth to the Threshold of Heaven and at the very top of the mountain at the very peak. That's where the earthly paradise is located, the Eden of of the Old Testament and Christian traditions. Okay, so this does. This makes more sense also, if you know something about like Medieval, Catholic theology right, which which had this belief in the idea of purgatory where it wasn't hell, you know you weren't condemned there forever, but you were basically good. Christian, but you did some sins that were not atoned for in. So you have to go to purgatory before you can get to heaven right, so you spend some time there in. You know. It's not hell, but it's not nice. It's not pleasant. and. You're stuck there until you essentially serve out your sentence, your purified of your sin, and then you can be admitted into heaven, right? It is a literary symbolic representation of penitent Christian life. Again no one holds that the amount of purgatory is a real place. It Very Much A. Part of literature here. But does service kind of a nice example of some of the same ideas of of mythological holy mountain, well one thing I do like about the idea of of Holy Mountains including purgatory, actually the amount of purgatory is that they do seem like an indication of older versions of religion that were more that could be situated on earth, because the lots of parts of earth. We didn't know about right. You know so like. Could say well. Yes, you can enter hell through a cave here and you go down then you can go up the mountain of purgatory, and that's over here, and that would be okay because you know. There's lots of the earth that he didn't know what was there. You could just assume it's somewhere undiscovered. Yeah! Now they're of course, plenty of actual mountains that are considered sacred, either by association with a Mythical World Mountain you see that from time to time where there's a mythological mountain in. Nearby mountain becomes associated with the same ideas through traditions, and then if we if we as we have explored in past episodes, there's also the added dimensions. Various Pyramids ziggurats that have been constructed as sort of artificial mountain, allowing the people who built them to participate in Mountain Top sacred rites and observances in some cases in regions where such peaks are are not readily available well. Yeah, and just like in the case. Say like in Mount Kailash where it is believed. Believed that Lord Shiva and part of our dwell on top of the mountain. The Ziggurat I think is interpreted by many modern scholars to have been thought to be a home of the gods by the people who use them so like. Maybe the priests would go up there and do some kind of right, but it was also believed that the God would come down and like sleep. The night on the top of the Ziggurat may made even live there for some period. Absolutely and another quick thing I want to mention in looking at various mountainous I noticed that you know primordial beings for mountains out of the soil, or as we mentioned earlier, they their bodies, or the bodies of. Loved ones become the mountains and you know. It's it's easy to sort of take the formation of mountains for granted with even just sort of. You know a casual. Understanding, say tectonics and so forth daily basically. A surface level understanding of geology, but imagine trying to understand what mountain was. If you really had no idea about any of these things I mean unless you. Were witnessed to volcanic eruption are there there are. Mountain formation processes that are going to be readily observable, and so it makes as much sense of anything to turn to some of these these these these purely mythological and cosmic explanations for why they're there well, you can get even weirder with it. I mean one of my favorite examples is the coolest place I've ever been the Mount Stephen Trial by beds up in Britain Mount, Stephen, British Columbia which is part of the Burgess Shale formation that I went to a couple of years ago and so you try to imagine that not having a any kind of scientific understanding you go. Go up a mountain, and then up near the top, there's just like a cliff where pieces of of Rocker shearing off, and got the imprint of strange undersea monsters on them, and it's like you. You'd have no idea of figuring out how so this once was sedimentary rock at the bottom of an ocean, and it has been pushed up and made into a mountain over hundreds of millions of years. Yeah, even knowing the geologic geological processes in in in place here it's still amazing to behold, and well beyond the scope of a human lifetime, and and really sort of natural human perception absolutely. So Ran Through some more examples here, holy mounds it. Kinda give nice overview of some of these different different ideas. I was reading about the Hey Bonday the Navajo creation myth complete with the creation recreation of the sacred mountains across five worlds, so that involves the idea that four other worlds proceeded the one that we live in now, and this is an idea that POPs up various Mesoamerican in native American religions and For the Aztecs Kawata Apac served as the mythical sacred mountain the serpent. In their mythical homeland ascalon, and according to Nicoletta mastery on thought Co. the Great Temple of Tanakh knocked. Dhillon is thought to be a replica of this holy mountain, so another example of recreating the Holy Mountain, an artificial holy mountain created. In the likeness of mythological form. In norse mythology, human bureau is the mountain where the by Frost Connects Asgard and mid guard, and this is home of the God him doll, and then there's also perhaps the less famous nearby org, and this is the hiding place of the mead of poetry. Oh, yeah..

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Stuff To Blow Your Mind

03:48 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"Say like in Mount Kailash where it is believed. Believed that Lord Shiva and part of our dwell on top of the mountain. The Ziggurat I think is interpreted by many modern scholars to have been thought to be a home of the gods by the people who use them so like. Maybe the priests would go up there and do some kind of right, but it was also believed that the God would come down and like sleep. The night on the top of the Ziggurat may made even live there for some period. Absolutely and another quick thing I want to mention in looking at various mountainous I noticed that you know primordial beings for mountains out of the soil, or as we mentioned earlier, they their bodies, or the bodies of. Loved ones become the mountains and you know. It's it's easy to sort of take the formation of mountains for granted with even just sort of. You know a casual. Understanding, say tectonics and so forth daily basically. A surface level understanding of geology, but imagine trying to understand what mountain was. If you really had no idea about any of these things I mean unless you. Were witnessed to volcanic eruption are there there are. Mountain formation processes that are going to be readily observable, and so it makes as much sense of anything to turn to some of these these these these purely mythological and cosmic explanations for why they're there well, you can get even weirder with it. I mean one of my favorite examples is the coolest place I've ever been the Mount Stephen Trial by beds up in Britain Mount, Stephen, British Columbia which is part of the Burgess Shale formation that I went to a couple of years ago and so you try to imagine that not having a any kind of scientific understanding you go. Go up a mountain, and then up near the top, there's just like a cliff where pieces of of Rocker shearing off, and got the imprint of strange undersea monsters on them, and it's like you. You'd have no idea of figuring out how so this once was sedimentary rock at the bottom of an ocean, and it has been pushed up and made into a mountain over hundreds of millions of years. Yeah, even knowing the geologic geological processes in in in place here it's still amazing to behold, and well beyond the scope of a human lifetime, and and really sort of natural human perception absolutely. So Ran Through some more examples here, holy mounds it. Kinda give nice overview of some of these different different ideas. I was reading about the Hey Bonday the Navajo creation myth complete with the creation recreation of the sacred mountains across five worlds, so that involves the idea that four other worlds proceeded the one that we live in now, and this is an idea that POPs up various Mesoamerican in native American religions and For the Aztecs Kawata Apac served as the mythical sacred mountain the serpent. In their mythical homeland ascalon, and according to Nicoletta mastery on thought Co. the Great Temple of Tanakh knocked. Dhillon is thought to be a replica of this holy mountain, so another example of recreating the Holy Mountain, an artificial holy mountain created. In the likeness of mythological form. In norse mythology, human bureau is the mountain where the by Frost Connects Asgard and mid guard, and this is home of the God him doll, and then there's also perhaps the less famous nearby org, and this is the hiding place of the mead of poetry. Oh, yeah..

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Stuff To Blow Your Mind

11:02 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"It summons feeling that someone's emotions and takes us outside of ourselves. E O Wilson Talks about this a little bit When he's discussing the Affiliate hypothesis and I think this is in the context of him. Generally talking about evolutionary explanations for our aesthetic preferences like why is it so often that pictures we find beautiful include vistas from a high point of view. You know being able to look down over a landscape and he offers some possible evolutionary explanations for that you know maybe this is like a more defendable point where you can see things coming towards you but yeah. It's hard to deny that when I see a mountain. I don't know if everybody feels this way as much as I do. When I see a mountain I want to go up it. I've never done mountain climbing hiking and stuff but I do want to go up to the top of the highest point in look down. We'll see I think you and I are different. In this regard. We've talked before on on the show. About how you have. No problem like walking up the cliff right. I'm a little more reluctant to do that. But still of icy like crazy Clifford P core or images of people mountain climbing. I do put my imagine myself up there and often terrify myself with the prospect on so I feel like that kind of mental transportation is inevitable but a couple of other things about just how we think about mountains. A common trope in various mythologies and we'll touch on some specific examples here in a bit. Are that the mountain or at least a mountain. Peak on some level connects earth to the sky so sky pillar situation where the mountain is holding up. The Cosmos are holding up the heavens holding up the sky or it is in some way an umbilical or a ladder and Or the mountain itself serves as a you know an an access Monday. The Central Tent Pole of Sacred Cosmos a stairway to heaven. If you will well that's really interesting. Because especially it pairs with older ways of thinking about the sky you know. It's not all that uncommon for ancient peoples to have conceived the sky as a place with solid ground. That you could walk around. In like a firmament there's a dome over the earth and And so you might wonder what does something hold up the dome. If they're solid ground up there that the gods can walk around in there must be something holding it up and so you can imagine. We'll maybe a mountain holds it up. That's the obvious. Answer in fact yes as you can see where this complex we've emerges of an attempt to understand what is what your visit whether you're actually observing. What is the objective reality and then also these mythical ideas of like what does about that structure and And incinerator and the importance of place in identity. There's also from a practical since the fact that the stand atop a great height is to gain a crucial vantage point. Yeah in some cases that can be purely strategic. This is the Wilson thing. Yeah he can see the movements of of her animals. You can see the movements of enemy troops et CETERA. But I also wonder if it could be something a little more existential. I wonder if if such heightened could be considered possibly a capable of invoking something like the overview effect that proposed state of mind or a state of euphoric interconnectedness that ensues when one sees the planet Earth from Outer Space. It's not quite the same certainly. I'm wondering if perhaps that affect scales down to some extent I can absolutely see that some astronauts report they look out the window of the International Space Station or of their. You know their vehicle and they see the earth from space and suddenly it just comes into sharp focus that that are petty squabbles. Are exactly that they're petty. You know then they vanish in the face of the fact that we're all trapped on this ball together and and it makes human concerns looks small and makes people feel a strong sense of sort of see. The common interest of all humanity and the connectedness of all of our concerns because the fate of the earth is the fate of all of us. And Yeah I can absolutely see that happening. I mean so imagine you normally. You live in a small village or a city where you are. You know you. You've got your day to day concerns. You're angry with your neighbor. You've got your politics that you're doing if you're like a priest or something and then you go up on a mountain and then you look down at the place where you come from the village or the city or the farms and suddenly everything looks tiny this basic shift in visual and optical perspective could very well trigger the same kind of mental shift people experience when they go into space. Yeah absolutely I was doing a little reading about about some of these ideas and Iran across the next one little paper by Edwin Birnbaum titled in Sacred Mountains themes and teachings and this is from Mountain Research and Development Twenty. Six and the author does a great job of just laying out some basics for instance lays out three basic ways that mountains are considered sacred We can as I lay these out. You can certainly think two examples we've discussed already and I think these will also be useful in considering Examples discussed in the rest of the podcast. So Birnbaum says first. Specific peaks are singled out as places of sanctity. They're supported by myths and practices such as pilgrimages meditation and even sacrifice number two they may contain sacred sites or objects like temples or shrines. Or even something more natural like spring and number three. The natural setting itself awakens a sense of wonder and all right. All three of these tend to work together. Birnbaum says on an individual's experience with the sacredness of Mountain. Furthermore Birnbaum defined Kim themes frequently seen in sacred mountains so they are roughly height center. Power God or a guy who the mountains God itself where it is the home of God's non as a place of worship. The Mountain Paradise or garden is a place where the ancestors of the dead may reside a source of Cultural Identity. A source of healing or or just a source of water. Which makes sense because I mean goes downhill exactly and also as a place of renewal so these are again. Ten broad themes Birnbaum identifies in the identity and characterization of sacred mountains all right well. We can look for these and examples of mountains that we talk about. So maybe I'll offer up one example of a mountain to think about and then maybe after that take a break and then look at some other okay but this first one is one. I mentioned in the episode where we talked about pressure because I think it's a commonly cited example of a very important holy mountain that's Holy IN MULTIPLE RELIGIONS. Not just one and this would be the peak of its peak in the Himalayas known as Mount Kailash Lhasa And so this is a holy mountain in multiple religions in Hinduism. This mountain is believed to be the abode of Lord Shiva the destroyer of evil and of his wife. Parvathi who together sit in meditation at the summit of the mountain and so the sight of Mount Kailash a destination of pilgrimage for many Hindus who climb Fifteen thousand feet or about four point six kilometers up this ascent path to the base of the mountain but do not climb it summit in fact climbing the sacred summit is forbidden. And while we can't know for sure it's often said that the summit has never been climbed by a human instead it's believed virtuous for pilgrims to walk in a circle around the base of the mountain but not go up to the summit And this of course is not just a holy site for Hindus as I was saying but it's also holy for Buddhists for Jane's and for people of the indigenous religion of Tibetan on his bone. Yes a very ancient animist religion. Yeah now if you look at what? A picture of Mount Kailash looks like from below. I mean I'd say obviously I already know this about it when I've seen pictures of it but it's not hard to see how a person looking up at this peak would begin to think that something powerful and holy and forbidden resided there does not look welcoming to ascent like it doesn't look easy to climb and I think there's something powerful about that to see a place and think I mean especially in today's Day and age to think oh wonder if people have ever been on that spot as a person ever stood there and if the answer is even possibly no there is something sacred about that like. We've we've pretty screwed everything else up but that one peak is is pristine. You will not find a slim. Jim Rapper there. Yeah and that does seem important right. I mean part of the issue is anytime there's a mountain that people say has not been climbed. Obviously people are gonNA WANNA climate. So I've been reading. There's political controversy over this. It's like I think there was one point. I read a team of Spanish mountain climbers who announced that they were going to climb the mountain. But it's a it's a holy site you're not supposed to climb it Even though I think the team they were not Hindus the so they didn't share this belief about the religious forbidden this of the mountaintop but the government authorities prevented them from climbing the mountain. I think just because they wanted to avoid this leading to unrest or just I guess being seen as an insult to people who believe that the mountain should not be climbed I mean I do tend to wonder if people just started climbing a mountain like this all the time. Would it kind of break the spell of this story? Would it make people? Would it make the mountain seem less? Holy I don't know that's something to consider and after we come back from this next break. We're going to take that consideration into specific examples not only with actual mountains and some of the sacred ideas about the bidding also be looking at some Samantha logical and even fictional mountains which I guess are kind of inherently safe from from mountain climbers laundering. Where they're not supposed to be. Hey everybody if you're looking for better business. Communications US bondage. They have unified communications. That organize all your texts. Emails and voice calls onto one platform contact centers that integrate seamlessly with salesforce and. Api's that can help your developers build communications into your APPS. But that's it. Those are the things von is really good at yeah. They're not so good exploring saving machinery of facial recognition the Ark of the Covenant. The the origin of black holes all of this in a fun and easily digestible way You know that's just not their thing. 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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

04:59 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"The Mountains God itself where it is the home of God's non as a place of worship, the mountain, Paradise or garden. is a place where the ancestors of the dead may reside a source of cultural identity, a source of healing, or or just a source of water, which makes sense because I mean. Goes Downhill exactly. And also as a place of renewal. So are again. Ten broad themes Birnbaum identifies in the identity and characterization of sacred mountains right well, we can look for these and examples of mountains that we talk about so maybe I'll offer up one example of a mountain to think about, and then maybe after that take a break and then look at some other. Okay, but this first one is one. I mentioned in the episode where we talked about pressure. Because I think it's a commonly cited example of a very important holy mountain that's holy in multiple religions, not just one. And this would be. The peak was its peak in the Himalayas known as Mount Kailash. Lhasa, and so this is a holy mountain in multiple religions in Hinduism. This mountain is believed to be the abode of Lord. Shiva the destroyer of evil and of his wife Parvathi who together sit in Meditation Summit of the mountain, and so the sight of Mount. Mount Kailash a destination of pilgrimage for many Hindus who climb fifteen thousand feet, or about four point six kilometers up this ascent path to the base of the mountain, but do not climb it summit. In fact, climbing the sacred summit is forbidden, and while we can't know for sure. It's often said that the summit has never been climbed by a human. Instead it's believed virtuous for pilgrims to walk in a circle around the base of the mountain, but not go up to the summit and this of course is not just a holy site for Hindus as I was saying, but it's also holy for Buddhists for Jane's and for people of the indigenous religion of Tibetan on his bone. Yes, a very ancient animist religion. Yeah, now if you look at what a picture of Mount Kailash looks like from below. I mean. I'd say obviously I. Already know this about it when I've seen pictures of it, but it's not hard to. See how person looking up at this peak would begin to think that something powerful and holy and forbidden resided. There does not look welcoming to ascent like it doesn't look easy to climb. And I think there's something powerful about that to see a place and think. I mean especially in today's Day and age to think Oh, wonder if people have ever been on that spot as a person ever stood there, and if the answer is even possibly no, there is something sacred about that like we've. We've pretty screwed everything else up, but that one peak is is pristine. You will not find a slim Jim Rapper there. Yeah and that does seem important. Right I mean part of the issue is. Anytime there's a mountain that people say has not been climbed. Obviously, people are gonNA WANNA climate, so I've been reading. There's political controversy over this. It's like I think there was one point I read a team of Spanish mountain, climbers who announced that they were going to climb the mountain, but it's a it's a holy site. You're not supposed to climb it even though I think the team. They were not Hindus the so they didn't share this belief. Belief about the religious forbidden this of the mountaintop, but the government authorities prevented them from climbing the mountain i. think just because they wanted to avoid this..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

11:40 min | 1 year ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"A website or domain squarespace. Just go check it out. And we're back now. In in discussing all of this Barrett also provides a humorous chart that it compiles his thoughts his interpretations of these five categories not only on Santa as a possible God but also mickey mouse the tooth fairy in engorge Bush. I think this would have been the George W Bush right yeah. Beliefs but for instance went through Santa Claus. But I'm Mickey Mouse. He gave Mickey. Yes for counterintuitive yelling mouse. Yeah Yes for intentional agent. Sure but then I know on having strategic information right. no-one no-one acting in the real world and a no on motivating reinforcing behavior. Oh Yeah I'm with all that on the two to three gets yeses across the board except for possessing vesting strategic information. which is the tooth fairy? Really know anything you don't I mean maybe knows a little bit more about your dental hygiene than and other entities doesn't really seem actionable. Yeah and then. Finally George Bush. George Bush gets yeses across the board except for counter intuitive. So he's an intentional agent agent he at least at the time possessed strategic information. He acted in the real world. Motivated reinforcing behaviours. But he was not counterintuitive. Does he motivate reinforcing behaviours. I guess so. Yeah I think so but you know he was just a human right. I mean yeah. It's true any actually existing human walking around on the earth motivates reinforcing behaviours. Because if you act as if these people don't exist it will cause problems for you. I should also point out that if you if you want to actually look up this paper the full title which we did not share earlier for reasons though become obvious is why Santa Claus is not a God again journal Cognition Culture Two thousand an eight if you look it up. He also has a wonderful ven diagram of how all five of these concepts interact and the the one safe zone where you have candidates for successful gods according to these these ideas now I would say to be critical of these criteria. We've been discussing I. I think you could argue that. Santa meets all five criteria at least in some cases of belief and not in other cases of belief and yet still there is no active cult of Santa whatsoever among adults and this suggests to me that while I think these five criteria are all very good starting places for evaluating God odd type agents in people's beliefs. They've got to be some other criteria here. That are not really accounted for. I think one major factor playing against belief in Santa in a clause as a god is that there is first of all a right of passage in which children become aware of the underlying Christmas gift mechanism and there are not any significant numbers of adults insisting to other adults that Santa Claus is real and is a God. You've gotTa have a foothold of people starting off insisting insisting that it's real in all cases and not just say in the presence of children but like two other adults and they would have to be you know trying to make a case you know and once. Let's you had that. Actually I could see it being surprising how easy something like God. Belief would pick up because there's nothing as convincing as other other people's confidence it's like embarrassing how susceptible we are to just sensing confidence and other people and thinking. Oh maybe there's something to that. So do you think there air could come a day where we would say. Oh yeah when we when we were Kids and when we were younger adults Santa was just an idea that we We told kids about the only kids believed in it but now we have all these adults all over the news media. And they're just fiercely defending belief in Santa Claus. And I'm afraid to say anything. I don't think you would get that because I don't see that there's a major motivation to start a movement like that and I think that the people who tried to start a movement like that they would not not have a major motivation and they would look foolish at least initially right until they got people believing them so i. I just don't see that as likely to happen now. I think you could probably proposed things that are equally ridiculous but you can imagine more of a motivation for them to come about that. Maybe you could. I mean they sound crazy to us now but if enough people or confidently proclaiming them say take a major political figure and start saying that they're a God. That sounds ridiculous to us right now but if you just get a number of people loudly proudly proclaiming that I. I think you could get some buying. Oh Yeah I mean you if you listened to the the right people you you hear that about contemporary political figures to a certain extent. I don't think I've heard anyone say that. The individual in question is a deity. But I have heard people say well. If you look at you know the way the Such and such as written in the Old Testament. Yeah then clearly that makes room for me to you know to look over this particular individual shortcomings Etcetera and yeah I mean it's it's not too much of an extrapolation to get to the point where you can imagine someone saying no this. This politician is God. We'll end the division between a figure gear of major religious significance and a God. Themself is not always as clear as we might want it to be or think. There's another thing that I think is getting in the way of of Santa in a clause becoming a legitimate God belief among adults and this may be a weirdly specific nitpick But I think it hurts to suggest that there is a physical location on earth where he resides and combining that with like modern Gio imaging and maps like it would be really hard to contend that Santa Claus is a literal physical being being who lives in a toy workshop at the North Pole most God beliefs that have survived into the modern technological era have either always been or have had to retreat into Intangibility for instance it would. It would be hard to insist today that there are Greek gods that literally inhabit a palace of the top. Mount Olympus like you can see pictures what it looks like up there but They would have to become invisible or start to occupy some non physical dimension or something like that right now as always when you're talking about you know real phenomenon and culture. They're exceptions an exception. I can think of as Mount Kailash for instance in in Hinduism some believe this to be the the physical mountain. It's a real mountain. You Go. There people make pilgrimages there and they walk around it. Some people believe it to be the home of Lord Shiva and the Goddess Parvathi. But but you're not allowed to climb up on the mountain to see for yourself and I think this belief would probably also tolerate some non-physical interpretations and yet as I think you could a potentially imagine imagine a world if you will in which Saint Nicholas is never fully invested from his religious origins and and and and instead of it being instead of Santa Claus being this thing that is sometimes brought up about the secular war on Christmas. You know in taking Christ out of Christmas. What of Saint Ain't Nicholas on the whole across the Western civilization remains this? This religious figure who also comes at Christmas brings toys and lives at the North Pole. And then you have all Santa believing nations agree to not explore the the Arctic because because that is where Santa lives and forging treaties with non Santa believing nations. That were they agree yes. We won't explore the Arctic because we realized that sacred to you then perhaps you could keep you could keep the the the residents of Santa an article of faith or not. It might not actually work possible. I think you'd still still have the major problem of like that. The generational transfer of the knowledge of the Christmas gift mechanism. Yeah like the fact that at some point you meet the man behind the curtain and it's mom and Dad I think that has an incredibly powerful demotivating effect on belief. You're going for the throat without one. Joe I didn't go that far in talking about the Magic Santa Santa. It's weird though because I feel I feel sorry. Did I do bad well. I too weird for me. I feel more. I feel less pressure about Discussing a religious concepts have been saying that. Okay you know we have this concept of God but there's no actual deity resides in heaven like I feel better about saying saying that then to come out and say that Santa Claus is your parents. Well we already said Oh. Come on I'm not saying makes sense. I'm just saying that's how it feels those. I'm like. Oh that's that's a step too far to say not. Only there is no Santa and he is me. That's exactly in fact you're exactly exactly making my point is. It's not just that at some point the other kids on the playground start saying oh you still will even say in US sane isn't real. I mean that would be one thing if that was happening. You could still maintain tain belief even in a hostile atmosphere. People maintain religious beliefs in a hostile atmosphere among nonbelievers who challenged their beliefs. But the fact that they're the mechanism is revealed by the by the people pulling the levers that the it is me. Statement is the most powerful moment there. That's where like it. It can't really survive that moment. Yeah but sometimes you don't completely have that moment. I Dunno like some some parents. They don't have a sit down and say like all right. Here's the here's the truth so I think another important. I'm sorry I didn't mean to do something you didn't. I'm just saying that that kind of I felt that it says more about me as is an apparent this currently maintaining the the magic of Santa and trying to figure out where it goes from here. You know But I do want to come back to again into Santa and God hood. I think it's worth mentioning first of all the Santa has encompassed aspects of old Gods. Already you have such characters as the GERMANIC. Thank God vote in the God like entity of Russia's dead demoralize or old man frost who of course factors into another MSG through K.. Rift film Jack Frost and now I think he's more. There's certainly a clear cut case for Jack Frost being a deity Since he is a you know he's please calm. You know he's a natural force in that is personified. Sure but then also we have to get into discussing just like how the how concepts of God. What in God's are GonNa vary from culture to culture because a lot of this has revolved around very I think Western concepts of an all powerful? God you know or or even like ancient Greek concepts of like really highly powerful anthropomorphic entities. Right yeah I mean it's something that Barrett mentions in the paper is that they're these criteria terrier supposed to apply to all kinds of God's I mean so they would apply to you know Spirit gods that live in the trees and stuff like that or household gods and like they should apply to all of these categories. But it's clear that at least I think you and I by our cultural context are very condition when we talk about. God's do think about like the monotheistic religions right but I do wonder if despite what Barrett says I wonder if some of the household God concept do kind of fall through the cracks of this a little bit and I was thinking particularly about about about China here because in China Santa has really only gained traction there during Really gain traction there in the nineteen nineties ninety s so you won't find Santa Wearing Confucian robes or anything but apparently you will see him on doors in places often relegated for the guts. Let's Chinese households with double doors sometimes boast twin images of Santa..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on The Unbeatable Mind Podcast with Mark Divine

The Unbeatable Mind Podcast with Mark Divine

03:15 min | 2 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on The Unbeatable Mind Podcast with Mark Divine

"Four times more than coconut, oil and coconut, oil raises key tones, no more than just sleeping all night, which is Nate, our fast. So let me get the straight might neurons wanted key tones. I take my bulletproof coffee which has the caffeine affect in it. I add brain octane to it, which is part of the recipe, which gives me more key towns, and all of a sudden it's like yeah. I got my account like you tones. And then when I have for lunch, God forbid, had some sushi with white rice. I'm not a Kito brownie more. Mike liles. Right. We got this. We like this in my gut bacteria pretty happy about it, too. And I monitor my gut bacteria. So it says idea how being ketosis sometimes eat tons of edges all the time. And how do we some carbs all the time? Well, avoiding toxic proteins in damaged fats in you do that. Don't eat too much. Don't eat too often. Everything is easy. That's awesome. So yeah, I know you're frustrated because you wanna talk about game changes. But now I've lived talking about that. I wanna talk about I you would note to say an Email say, hey, give me your address in some dark glasses. And and I get this auto bounce. It says as a way to avoid electron distractions. I don't use my computer. I'm hiding cave in the Himalayas and I accept carrier pigeons, and they normally take weeks to reach to bed, but ours, our trained to achieve twenty about possible. What an arrogant message you ask? Most people think it's funny the first I've totally joking not gonna laugh, totally. I just wanted to excuse to call your now. So when you couldn't thump me for saying it because we're emoting you must be impressed with my internet coverage here in the Himalayas, though. I, I am impressed from gave actually. You know you don't want us really funny. Speaking of Tibet. I really did come up with the idea for bulletproof coffee on the side of mount Kailash when I first had yak butter tea, which the Himalayan people into bed and other other Himalayan areas. They figured out, you can mix butter tea in on. You mix it up. You get this Kito effect. In some other things with water chemistry in. It's just a thing I noticed, I felt much better. But what haven't really talked about on that trip? This was a long time ago two thousand four there was no internet coverage. So I being a dumb ass, not computer hacker. I brought a three pound laptop, you couldn't even buy one back, then it was really hard to find one at mcgavin to do. My Email is whole trip. I'll be so connected resent. What were using for internet? I would go to an internet cafe and wasteful knows looking unplug one of the computers from their network. Plug it into my laptop and like I'm gonna download my messages. But the spammers at the time, there was no spam filter giving so much spam. I couldn't download the spam faster than the internet connection available in Tibet. So my laptop was. Just a brick, I carried with me which forced me to meditate for three months. That's why became really good shape hall in that thing around. Exactly that is awesome. What a great story. Yuck butter. They can you buy yak butter anywhere. United States when I came back from there, I wanna feel that brain thing. I felt the first time I drank it. So I tried to buy back. But I mean I searched around. I found a guy who was selling like tiger meat that's disgusting and wrong on so many so many levels and like, oh, if you wanna pay fifteen hundred dollars you.

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Longform Podcast

Longform Podcast

02:37 min | 2 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Longform Podcast

"Woo stuff came out of plano. That's kind of weird, and then wait a minute when I was at National Geographic, adventure, remember how there was that day that Google maps came out? And also people started e mailing in saying I found Atlantis on Google maps, you know, maybe there's, you know, maybe they're using this Plato story and things like Google maps, now that, you know, the internet is big. You know, search community to look for Lantis, maybe some of these people have actually like, good ideas about where Atlanticism Atlanta shows up in the appear booked. Yeah. Exactly. And that's claims through exactly does. That's what you know, I saw the newspaper clipping from nineteen eleven was like Atlantic from pigeon near. Atlanta's found in Africa. So you take these little things, maybe the leftover from the last book, and you just sort of play them forward the next one, because I am so bad. But I d I'm terrible with ideas. The best magazine writing gig, I ever had was at men's journal because Jason find the editor and marquee, the executive editor would just call up and be like, hey, here's a preapproved idea. Do you wanna go? Be like where have you been all my life? You know, it's hard enough with book ideas. But, you know, people who are out there, hustling all the time and send in a new idea every week. I don't know how they do that part of my brain. Just never developed, but book ideas are also big swing view been how far down the road of you Ben with something either pre proposal or a proposal that didn't happen. Luckily, I have like the world. Most blunt agent, Daniel Greenberg. I've sent at least a half a dozen ideas to him over the years. He's like this is not going to sell, or this is a great idea, but you would not do very good job with this. When we, we first book together, he's like, do you wanna see the editors responses from the houses and reporters, I'm like, yeah? Sure. Of course, more information is good information. So you just start sending these forwarding them blind lean. It's like this is a dumb idea, and he's not a very good writer, and I don't think he'd do very good job with this book, just like, you know, rejection after rejection as Daniel okay, that's enough. I get the. I get the idea. So. Yeah, I come up with bad ideas for books all the time. Are you on one right now? I have three ideas, I'm juggling. And he likes to of them to give the vague outline one is one involves elephants in Africa. One involves mount Kailash in Nepal, which is like the high holy mountain of Tibetan Buddhism, and one which he Daniel does not know about is I'm fascinated by the idea of what is lost, when we moved from a world where hand in the brain or connected through handwriting through drawing and things like that into a more ephemeral typing world you have kids, so you know, they're moving away from the cursive, and things like that..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

04:46 min | 2 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"You know, if I say yet, he you may just picture a Bigfoot or skunk, ape, whatever the regional variation of this creature is and I do think that is important is removed for to think about the fact that there are variations of the wild man being in various cultures basically, like a bipedal creature covered in hair that is. Seen all around the world, but has distinct origins in each case. Right, right. Yes. But I was looking I wanted to get a little competitor snapshot of the this ape like beast as far as like Himalayan traditions, go. So I ran across a very very insightful piece titled boot unease tales of the yeti by Kuehne Zang Codan tales of the creature exists through the Himalayan region, and the author points to the different names that are given to this entity so into Tibet, there's gangs me or glacier, man. There's me Sean POE or strongman and meet chin PO or great man, the sherpas call it yeti, the lepres call it chew moon or snow goblin. I like that one or low moon or mountain goblin in Paul there's Nile new or ban Monchy. He didn't provide a tra- transformation translation for those. But I'm assuming some treatment. On these various ideas, you know. And then the boot unease say Migo or strongman or also Greg PO so we get this idea of like figure of of savage cold strength with possible, you know, goblin a qualities as well. So chosen writes that the idea here dates back to the pre Buddhist bond writings, the the pre Buddhist animist religion. We mentioned this briefly in the last episode the indigenous religion of Tibet it came up because. Mt Kailash amount Khayelitsha in in the Himalayas is a peak that is holy not just to Hindus who believe some of whom believed that Lord Chiba, and poverty dwell on top of mount Kailash, but it's also holy to some Buddhists Jane's and members of the Bon religion, the Tibetan indigenous religion, and apparently some Bon rituals, call for the blood of amigo a. Slane with a sharp weapon. Whoa. Yeah. So so this was a pre existing idea. But then you get some westerners involved writing. And then you get this idea exported, and and and reignited in the western mind, so British traveller William Hugh night of the royals. The Royal society's club recorded a yeti siding in nineteen thousand three on his way back to India from Tabet. And then there was another sighting in eighteen twenty five by a westerner by Greek zoologist in a Tomba's -i who described it like this unquestionably. The figure in outline was exactly like a human being walking upright and stopping occasionally to uproot or pull at some dwarf. Rhododendron bushes. It showed up dark against the snow in as far as I could make out wore no clothes, and then later you had print sightings, and and so forth in the nineteen. Fifties that helped popularize the idea of the yeti in the west various films, certainly. Tell television series like in search of helped to contribute to this idea. And today the the interest interest in the continues. But there remains no proof that the creature exists. In fact, examination of preserved evidence of yetis tends to lean toward the intentional or accidental misinterpretation of another animal or its handiwork. So DNA worked from the past few years, for instance, points to you know, directly to a at Asian bears as the source of the samples so in all of this in any any time. We're talking about a yeti citing even in the Himalayan region. We can't discount hoaxes and various other reasons, but we when we consider the potential affects hypoxia and. And these other like a high altitude situations now, which all I think in some degree related to hypoxia. A you know, we we might be talking more of a full blown hallucination and then at lower altitudes the effect could just be enough to make the individual. You know, see what they want to see when they glimpse in normal animal or another human being. So I found this idea of first of all there is I did see this idea echoed in searching for the mysterious monsters, a two thousand fourteen book by Jennifer Rifkin. Now, this is a kids book I wanna hear about you'd normally we don't cite a lot of kids book..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

Stuff To Blow Your Mind

03:49 min | 2 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind

"That's holy. In multiple religions, not just one. And this would be the peak was it's a peak in the Himalayas known as mount Kailash mount Kyla. And so this is a whole. Mountain in multiple religions in Hinduism. This mountain is believed to be the abode of Lord Shiva, the destroyer of evil and of his wife Parvathi who together sit in meditation at the summit of the mountain. And so the sight of mount Kailash is a destination of pilgrimage for many Hindus who climb fifteen thousand feet or about four point six kilometers up this ascent path to the base of the mountain, but do not climb it summit. In fact, climbing the sacred summit is forbidden, and the well, we can't know for sure it's often said that the summit has never been climbed by human. Instead, it's believed virtuous for pilgrims to walk in a circle around the base of the mountain, but not go up to the summit. And this, of course, is not just a holy site for Hindus as it was saying, but it's also holy for Buddhists for Jane's. And for people of the indigenous religion of Tibet known his bone. Yes. Very int animist religion. Yeah. Now if you look at what? A picture of mount Kailash looks like from below. I mean, I would say, obviously, I already know this about it when I've seen pictures of it. But it's not hard to see how a person looking up at this. Peak would begin to think that something powerful and holy in forbidden resided there. It does not look welcoming to ascend like it doesn't look easy to climb. And I think there's something powerful about that too to see a place and think I am especially today's day and age to think a wonder if people have ever been on that spot has a person ever stood there in the answer is even possibly no there is something kind of sacred about that. Like, we've we've pretty much screwed everything else up. But that one peak is is pristine you will not find a slim Jim rapper there. Yeah. And that does seem important, right? I mean, part of the issue is anytime there's a mountain that people say has not been climbed. Obviously people are going to want wanna climate. So I've been reading there's political controversy over this. It's like, I think there was one point. I read a a team of Spanish mountain climbers who announced that they were going to climb the mountain. But it's a it's a holy site. You're not supposed to climate even though I think the team they were there were not Hindus the so they didn't share this belief about the religious forbidden of the mountaintop. But the government authorities prevented them from climbing the mountain, I think just because they wanted to avoid this leading to unrest or just to I guess being seen as an insult to to people who believe that the mountain should not be climbed. I mean, I do tend to wonder if people just started climbing a mountain like this all the time. Would it kind of break the spell of this story? Would it make people would it make the mountain seem less? Holy. I don't know. That's something to consider. And after we come back from this next break, we're gonna take that consideration into specific examples not only with actual mountains, and some of the sacred ideas about them. But then we'll also be looking at some some Mitha logical and even fictional mountains, which I guess are kind of inherently safe from from now climbers laundering, where they're not supposed to be earlier this year in an interview. With Breitbart news, President Donald Trump said that in the event of a civil conflict in the United States. He believed the military and the police as well as civilian groups like the bikers for Trump would be on his side. Do you think more about the possibility of a second American civil war now than you used to if so you're not alone? I'm Robert Evans. I'm the host of the podcast behind the bastards. And I've worked as a conflict journalists in a couple of actual civil wars..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show

The Jordan Harbinger Show

03:22 min | 2 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show

"It was because these guys are on foot. I mean, there's not a whole lot. They could do. And so then when I heard about bulletproof I was like they kind of had this. But it was a little different. And you only need it when you were shivering so bad that you needed five thousand calorie at seven thousand calories a day. It's kind of funny. The idea for bulletproof coffee came to me because I had exhausted the western medicine stuff. And I knew I wasn't happy. And I believe that everybody wants to be happy. I was just willing to literally go the ends of the earth for this. So when I try to list off that was supposed to work and didn't I said, I'm going to go learn meditation from the masters, so I took offered Tibet, and it's been about three months in Nepal into bed and went to monasteries meditated things like that. And then went to mount Kailash, which is remote western Tibet middle of nowhere five days. Four wheel drive to get there and five days in a four wheel drive. You get their hours a day. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That does not there's no way to get there on a plane or anything. No. This is one of the most remote parts of the world now and. It's where visiting Mount Olympus of Buddhism and Hinduism. So this is where the gods live on. This mountain knows ever climbed the mountain, and you go and you walk twenty six miles circuit at eighteen thousand feet elevation around. It sorta like tonner the mountain said I'm going to go do this just because it's one of the things that Jones ever died like it lists. No one from the west. It turns out a lot of people go there in the middle of summer from India and Tibet it's one of those going back sort of things. So I'm going to try this. But I got there two months late, and it was ten degrees below zero. And there's thirty mile an hour winds, and there's only eight people in these little guest house, the call the mud huts on the and I'm feeling racks because the allegation is cold all the way recovered now and this little bit and woman, I saw a picture of her. She gives me yak butter tea, and I drink and it was like game on feel so much better. And it just stuck in my head. I made a habit of noting when I felt amazing. I felt crappy. So I could just find the variables that caused it. And I drink a lot more of that. And when I came home, I decided. All right. I'm gonna start experimenting. I ended up doing the mold free coffee grass fed butter because I tested regular butter. It doesn't work, and I added the brain octane from the knowledge I had from the anti-ageing group, but something else happened in Tibet. I haven't talked about very much I descended seventy five hundred vertical feet in one day. And I completely jacked up, my knees. So I already out arthritis a little like walking down the downstairs for you know, a mile and a half vertical or something. You know? It was I five days could not walk him, a two polls. I could barely massive swelling agent pain. So we're driving to bet, and I really wanted to go in this walk, but I wasn't gonna be able to do it. So we stopped this little mud building on the side of the road and asked to Chinese guy the bus, and you could read the menu. Hey, what does it say? And he read everything I'm looking for collagen. I know I need collagen in my joints. That's what they're made out of just to repair them. There's only one menu item that will fit the Bill. It was pigs ears. Oh, delicious. By the way. I got a bowl of cold boiled pig. Xeres? It was horrible. Really? They're kind of good if they're done, right. I know what you're talking to like the one guy had bulls of pigs ears and just haven't had Xeres, buddy. You know? I imagine that could be good roadside without refrigeration nowhere. It was brutal. They've been dictum in hot soups, and they really chewy. But the next day, my knees were fifty percents header I just needed the materials, and I'm not putting pigs ears at my coffee..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Stronger

Stronger

04:16 min | 3 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Stronger

"Coffee doesn't become exclusions if you put butter fats or brain octane in it, and then you blend it you must blend it for this to happen. You make small droplets fat. It actually changes the structure of the water in the coffee. So that when you drink it yourselves can use it directly, and what could be into this was that I discovered bulletproof coffee, at least the concept of it in remote, western Tibet at eighteen thousand feet elevation on the side of mount Kailash, which is the holy mountain in eastern religions, and they gave me a bowl of Yacob butter tea at a tiny remote guesthouse. This place was a half a mile. The nearest water and this little Tibetan woman every morning for her entire life. She had taken Yock butter and tea, and they'd pour it into a wooden churn, and they would churn it for ten minutes by hands before they would drink tea in money. They would never just eat a bite of butter in wash it down with T, which is what any intelligent person you'd think would do. And I thought it was a little bit crazy. In fact, the wealthy Tibetans with two yaks and not exaggerating either they would have a solar powered cell and a blender so that they could blend it and say themselves training, but they would never dream of doing training. Well, turns out that when you blend these fats into that your coffee, it does change the water. They noticed the difference. They've been doing it for thousands of years. And that is why if you pour cream in your coffee, you're unlikely to get the same effect as if you blend some specific fat molecules into your body. The other things that you could add to your coffee if you wanted to almost any kind of oil that you'd like to get more of into your diet. The problem is try putting krill oil or fish oil into your coffee. You're probably not going to like it. A some people use some nut oils, some people like to use on almond milk, and then add the brain Aachen oil, and it should mention brain octane oil is one of four kinds of MCAT oil. It's the one with the most lab studies about raising Keaton's the most common cheapest and most available MCAT oil does not raise key towns anymore than corn oil, and it's allowed to be labeled an MCAT oil, and this is called Laurich acid. So if someone selling MCAT oil that says Laurich acid in it that's not gonna raise your key tones. Have you ever tried putting the fish oil in coffee? It sounds disgusting. I have tried putting everything you can think of in coffee, literally thousands of experiments. Yes, I did fish at one time. And it was truly awful the other thing that was surprisingly awful was I put a quarter avocado and wants to see if I could get a little bit creaming us, and I gave it to my kids, and I took on drink and daddy. What did you do to this coffee? This is the worst ever had. No one likes hot all the Konta. No. I love Advocaat does. But I haven't met in a serious lapse of judgement. I tried putting like my fish oil in a smoothie day. Like, maybe the other flavors will mask it. Nope out. So. It was the grocery saying I've ever made a fishy. Milkshake Oklahoma's horrible. Because I formulate supplements, and I'm working in this live to one hundred eight year longer thing a lot of fish oil. You can get is rancid if it's expose very unstable. So exposed to heat and light it has way more of a fishy flavor. If it gives you like those fish burps, you have issues in the most precious type official comes from fish eggs. And this is what native Americans would do. They're actually save fish eggs, dry them. So they could give them to pregnant women because they needed the extra DHA and right now just last month. I just launch us up lament that's based on fish egg oil that sustainable assembly harvested, and so there's special phospholipids that go into the brain. And I can tell you that I would not put that bullet proof fish oil in my coffee to save my life. I'm gonna use the coffee to swallow the pills like. Like a normal person. 'cause I just can't imagine a fish flavored froth on anything. Totally. So I have a question about the guidelines that given to pregnant women about coffee consumption..

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"mount kailash" Discussed on Bulletproof Radio

Bulletproof Radio

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"mount kailash" Discussed on Bulletproof Radio

"Uncertainty and and leaders have to be able to make decisions with incomplete information all the time aurea and and so they need a skill set that that could they can draw on in that kind of an environment and and so curiosity willingness to learn willingness to be to stay in touch with the inner resources causes the arteries was are still coming they're still manifests right now i think that is that is of course skill and the beautiful thing is as we see more and more ceos of business owners entrepreneurs showing up with its skill yeah and i call it the sir did the new archetype really of an awaken under for noor ride an account you among them i think people who show a significant accomplishment and mastery in business but are operating from a spiritual awareness i i don't think it's possible to have that level of business success and be happy this anti fructose you've done that has had six million dollars when i was a miserable twenty six they're old loss eros 28 arrived but it it's it's about feeling good every day uh and then the success comes with outside i'm with you on that front you're doing something really interesting at this year that i would love to join on but i probably won't just because it takes a month you're spending a month leading a group of people on a circle around the globe going to a bunch of places including mount kailash which is where remote part of western tibet where i first had yak butter t that was the inspiration for bull proof coffee as well as one of the holiest mountains in in history tell me a little bit about why you're going to these seven different uh spiritual locations around the planet and and what you're doing their it's fascinating i will i also want to tell you if you want me to take something for you as a gratitude gift to the kailash oh lands okay 'cause i i just saw that that might be a really a nice thing uh offering yes absolutely out i thank you for that what a great idea yes uh so this particular a trip.

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