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SER Aventureros | Gran Premio de Espaa de Motociclismo

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54:22 min | 3 months ago

SER Aventureros | Gran Premio de Espaa de Motociclismo

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Who is the Angel of Jehovah

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46:20 min | 4 months ago

Who is the Angel of Jehovah

"The homeless people drums. Everybody got a scripture lynch. We're on that rival louisiana. We did a study while back on angels and we covered everything the bible says about angels against revelation and serve them. Jerem everything in the foyer. Great study if you have looked tonight here. They good one from three months. Bible study but during that study we discovered a character in the bible. It's called the angel of jehovah sometimes called angel of the lord in a few places golden angel of god. But he's mentioned numerous times in the bible the primarily in the old test. But not exclusively. That's who i want to look at today the angel. You're hct try to discover who he is. What's these folks. what's these relationship to. God is a gothic said on your scripture list. I listen to your four times a week. So i know some of you the readers. Please try to keep three or four scriptures marked ahead so that we could save time looking them up and get ready to read one start rooting. If somebody steps on your toes one person stop another one. Take it the next time. We'll get through it that what. I don't wanna do hebrew. Greek study today. Because i don't know anything about that but i want list a couple of things for you on your hand out there. They'll test word. I don't care what english translation you've got laying on your lap right now on your phone when you see that amos four angel. Don't test of brisbane hate group. Orders ama la. I guess close enough which is translated. Angel that's all well good. Primaries buying is the definition of an old testament is a messenger. Angels a message with the new testament there in front of you. See the word and yellows naturalistic translated. I ain't with the definition of an angel and the new testament is also messenger. One more thing on his hebrew name will move on. I wrote toward either. Hang down there. The that word with the very i in the beginning god created hymns earth etc. So what that says if you go to the ridge in the beginning easily which remains the supreme. God poorer more the more in the beginning. The supreme god plural created him. Serve keep that in mind. That's important study the angel jehovah today all right. I asked us of angel job. We're gonna go hagar get a sixteen member was sarah. Thurber serves may whatever abraham sarah's pike for bait designed if he's ram. I'll tell you what once you got. My mind made here my serve hagar. She gets pregnant so so he did she. Though now hang on what. Sara finds out hagar's pregnancy realized. This wasn't very well thought out. You know this one real good idea. So sarah starts giving hagar boats grief hagar leaves town. He leaves the house runs away. She's pregnancies out in the boondocks and we pick her up pregnant. Hagar venison sixteen. Somebody read rig seven eight nine please. I don't wanna read them all eight nine yesterday. Go back home. Who told hagar to go back home to sagar to sarah. The angel of jehovah the angel lower correct read verstand lose wrong who who's gonna multiply hagar's descendants ninety lower so we're the aims lowered multiplying descendants. No regular messenger. Angel bobble the we talked about had to build to multiply descendants. So keep that in mind. Jensen's sixteen read eleven twelve eleven twelve genesis sixteen men but listen through and against everyone. Everyone will good job side question here. Who are the descendants of ishmael. The dangerous job here says they're going to beat in the presence of the brothers and his hands goldman against all men. Who are the sense of ishmail. The arabs very good and the jews are descended from home more specific so when you see all his fight and going on over there with all we've been trying to settle for two or three hundred years just nothing bunch. Half brothers fighting comes from right here. Jensen sixteen recber starting all free. So they angel. The lord tells hagar that he's made the one who greatly multiplies descendants. Okay and then the angel the lower then hagar calls angel lord. what thirteen. You're you're a god vision. The god who seeks chapter seventeen genesis. We've got abraham being spoken to hear about two boys reverse night genesis seventeen. Somebody said listen we get we get debt but whose establishing a covenant by the white what's definition of a covenant viable promise tradie agreement would say dale we'll make a deal that's just another study who's establishing a covenant here with abraham and his seed after him genesis. Seventeen that were god there. That's ill lame. That's a supreme. God plural one genesis. One okay we got yards. Elaine supreme god establishing the company right burst twenty seventeen. Not hard to understand. We're gonna take care now who is going to blast ishmail who's gonna multiply seed who's gonna make migrate nation etcetera etcetera. Right here right. Look at your contact. You go back to the previous verse. In nineteen elaine god plural. Then when you start going twenty starts off it says is so we're talking about god don't it but regarding ishmael here. Who told ishmael mom hang are back in genesis. Sixteen that he was going to bless them. All clar nine. God nangle jehovah very good short class brad. So hagar gives birth tishman and our home life has deteriorated again. She runs away again. This time. Ishmael will they're out in the boondocks and they're hungry or thirsty seventeenth leaks all to hagar the reviews. Ktar do not fear of laugh. Were very good. Who called out off from heaven right here. Perfect that's either lame again. The supreme god flow. It's gonna be all right reverse eighteen please ingratiation who speaking nagar here go back. Seventeen real close i. He's there you go look up. Who says they're going to make ishmael great nation here in verse. Eight t very good in context go back to previous birth and you look so now handled. Hey guys got angel. God's angel you're hova promising to make h miller. Great nation a. multiplies descendants. I hold onto that. Let's look at the famous story. Abraham getting ready to sacrifice the song is just was twenty two reverse to laser. We're going right now to order these scriptures verse to your you and where are you there. Side question worries mount mariah berg. Good the temples built. They're also. There's lots of archaeological evidence that cavalry was located on mount mariah where the final sacrifice for san with made. But anyway i like to point out. This is nothing to do with our study. But i like the pulling out what. Abraham did virtually every time when god told them to do something bursts. Three there is twenty. Two abraham rose early in the morning and went out back. Before abraham got to tanner israel he was up on topic haram. God said you need to lead load up. You're going to land. You don't know. But i'm going. God bobble says he got up and win. No words abrahim never set rafter. God told them to go somewhere. Never sat around trying to figure out how long it was going to say where we're going to stay homeless gasoline. Going cost and all that bottle says he got up and he went probably sermon in there somewhere. But anyway back abraham and his son is he's got isaac all tied up now. He's fixed the sacrifice thing read birth. Jen twenty two and pick up eleven while you're there faking. Abraham here ain't gonna lowered. Were speaking from burger. Heaven see what he says birsh play who stops abraham from killing isaac the angel the lord the angel lower told abraham that he now knows that abraham fears god plural. Let's clean because abraham did not withhold his only son from home Very good from me the angel the lower. Let's get it straight in our mind near the angel. Hct tells abraham right here. I angel job. I know that you fear etling. The supreme god plural wa. Because you did not withhold your son from may the angel behove right now. We noxitril angel book. Jehovah's got off stroke jensen twenty. Two somebody pick up fifteen sixteen seventeen. Please don't be bashful. I don't wanna read our read by seventeen. Yes ma'am in need. I will bless you. I will be more apply. See stars of the heavens sandwiches shop. I do calls. Out abraham a second time here angel jehovah angel the lord where did call out from heaven. The angel of jehovah said in verse sixteen. He swore by home. Angle you get that angle jehovah swore by himself says who translated jehovah. That's y'all way a verse sixteen angle. Hova calls himself jehovah the jaw. Why that's the jewish national nine for god. The stealth exist at one. Used to say that's the same jehovah that killed thousands of people on passover night of the firstborn in egypt. But we're not protected man animal boat so here they angel the cova says i have sworn by myself says y'all get used to be lo- heyman when i say elohim i'm talking about floro say i i. In the beginning god created that were god there louis. The definition is the supreme god and poor more than one. We'll get more seventeen here again. Janssen's twenty two. Who's blasini abraham and promising to multiplies descendants. Like the stars of the sky and the season sanders. I i sense of rs. Fifteen th angel. Your hose going to do that so we got a quick review begun over so far in both. The story was hagar. Abraham they angel the lower spoke from heaven he promised divine blessings in the first person. He said. i'm going to black angel. Was that you did not withhold your son from me. I'm going to make you a great immigration. I'm going apply your descendants then here twenty two sixteen just read. The angel lowered called himself jehovah. Y'all would the jewish national lame of god moving on. I got sunday school question for most of the morning moved. Somebody said who called moselle burning. Most what's the answer. Normally most people say god very good over here. Yeah most people who called the moses out. The burning both wasn't burn up. He thought that's strange. And these people say god. Let's look at it next story. Remorse to please. And anger whole appeared unto him on a flame of fire out of the midst of the book and he looked that's moses and he looked and both the bush burned with fire and bush was not concerned who appears to moses from the burning bush. Here and access three angel jehovah angle or here. He is again. So the birsh is not burning up. Moses walks over towards its check it out like we. Would i rake four and five plea side too. Go into five. Remove your stranger or place on which you are standing as holier. Very good the moses. Here's no come closer to the book going to mars. Four right verse four jehovah jehovah saw jolla. We'll get used to say y'all like all that don't come closer now. After y'all i called after jehovah most turns and sees hood over here yacht. Called him out mr boothe. So according to verse four it was y'all lie for jehovah is also either. Hey the supreme. God plural in verse. I where was he when he spoke to most was the up in heaven. walked verse. Four mil so worse. Tuned was read says. The lord was the one who appeared to moses in the bush. Now verse four. We got all the most says of jehovah call to and it looked over. Galway supreme name of national language. Use for god said. He's watching moses out of the bush and this lady over over here said correctly when this character in the bush. Identify your home. Decides to speak to moses. Now he's called the supreme. God floral just one. Yes ma'am over. Tell you the two different names being used for being right now. We're going to get to the difference between medina class. That's kind of the poet of the clay. I'm not gonna tell you anything. I'm gonna let you fugger so to to you're pulling three different titles given three different versus right here to the one who spoke demotes three different titles angel jehovah and Jehovah log given to the same. Spoke to moses and three szott. Why it's take off your shoes. Live this ground. Holy off your. She was what makes us. Grand halloween. got well. I'll give pretty much full credit for that because the vanity spread let's say day-to-day spread that makes the ground. Holy and keep that your. Let's say who've this being the cussing here. In the bush himself tells moses who years jehovah well gee lane or or the lord. Our six plays exodus three. Somebody got a baby. I'm the team. The supreme god floro on the name of abraham isaac and jacob. I'm supreme god is found in genesis. One one he tells. Moses somoza has a conversation out of the burning bush was with either. The anger lowered. Or eli lame or hope or all three your finger on and three. We're coming back there in a minute. Turn acts chapter seven. Let's see how stephen right before stephen died. He was stoned to death before he got started getting base freaks to pretty hard shock the corn and all the way down to the cop negative mad about it. Well let's see how. Stephen describes this thing that we're talking about. That's in the burning bush back next accidents. Reverse thirty accent blooded okay. According to stephen who appeared to moses in the book i go ahead and pick up thirty three and thirty four ladies right there in stabbing her asia heard romney down very good now. The angel speaks. What the stephen corlett the lower. It's curious as the great name that's given to lower jesus numerous times in the new testament. And the lord. Here's a question. Stephen as stephen described in the lord says herk shirley seen the election of home my people. The jude possessive ordinary meshing. Your annual has no people back exits. Three please more seven jehovah said i surely seen deflection of my people who were in egypt. I've heard their cry because of their or another almost exact same things. Steve said next up rig mercedes excess. Three please alive to bring good. The canaanites bunch is so now. We got jehovah. Y'all way speaking of moses alabama says i've seen the flick of my people. I heard her cry. And i'm coming now to deliver. The one who is speaking from the bush is quote coming down to deliver his people. Now you remember moses. He doesn't want he doesn't want to leave the people out of israel age if he doesn't want to gig at all you don't wanna do it but when does finally get the job he asked god. He's a luma. don't tell them. Tell them in charge of this whole foot to answer to that. Birth fourteen is three. That's ill hayme speaking. The supreme god plora. We're talking about. I am so we wanna know who is the one that spoke to moses from. The bushes called an exodus angel the lord. He was called you hobo. He was called hilo him. The freemen. god told moses right here he said i am. Let's let jesus christ answer the question. John eight there. He got that one rick. Fifty seven fifty eight somebody. I am the same thing. Supreme god told moses valid bush who he was judges chapter two judges chapter to somebody gets first place. Sounds good. there is again speaking here. Judges to angle giovanni lord her does he say here in the verse of just read brought the jews up out of egypt ada law member. Just who did we save. Speaking to moses about bringing the people out of of saddam coming down to deliver the allah hand the jehovah they within the now hearing judge to angola lower. These wanted to live with lovely hoes. Four to get came into their father here in. This judge is packed. Passage judges too. That i will give you the land which i swore to you and your lower. He's also here. Did he say he he made it. Covered was israel in this passage. So daniel jehovah's one going but regular messenger anger once again cannot make a covenant or a deal or an agreement with person or nation danger. Lower here said he did Abraham loss genesis thirteen glaze. Somebody read fourteen. fifteen genesis. Thirteen adds a lot of all the lands. If you see land of canaan here to abraham here in genesis just read right job but we'll just read your mainly go to the the lower said he did all this is angel or said it was registered. A second i brought you into the land which i swore under your father and i said i will never break cover you. See abraham and lot had been blessed with a bunch of stuff and so much stuff. The to wasn't room for both of them. Saint mary tyler. Cattle knoller hands were fighting and all that split up abraham with the character that he had he gave the first choice. Unless we're lot made the break so he's not going to go set up a song. That's another story. i guess it's thirteen. They split up sixteen and seventeen through the land. Promised here and sixteen to quote. Make your seat of the dust of their job. Y'all way correct going back to earth fourteen. But we read earlier about abraham sacrificing. Isaac in just twenty two danger. Your home said back there. He said i will both fly your sea like the stars of heaven like the same so one biblical candle here we got into the lower abraham that he's gonna multiply descendants and another. Can't we got job. Y'all would neighboring the same sort of revelation twenty two. This is important. This is a side. Note regarding messenger angles. We were talking about beginning a class on your hand. now we're i've got angelo's for my lack. This is just twenty. Eight nine leaks revelation. Twenty two main read eight nine. I were very good. Okay the regular angel said. Don't don't do that get up. Don't worship me. I'm just the fella lackey or just regular all meshing your angel. So we've established from revelation that your regular messenger angels. We talked about getting class except worship. Don't do it. they told joan. There's another passage that happened to but one's enough sell servants like you all right josh. Lewin jericho gospel five please. Before the battle joshua has got his orders but he's out walking around looking wallop city with all the strength inside. He's trying to figure out how war was gonna crack this nut and he sees a figure standing in front of city wall where pick it up here joyful five route. Thirteen fourteen fifteen. How old josh josh are are no matter the concern army hate yourself. Offer very good once again. Why this ground. Holy just with moses and the burning bush wisest ground holding a perfect. he's in the presence of deity. What did the commander the lord's except from joshua that the other angels do not accept yasha fell on his face and did worship very good. I pick up the next two verses. That's jeff chapter six one place courses game very good so now. What is the command. Lawrence hosts called jericho burst to jehovah. The lord it's like the angel. The lord was called at the burning bush he's also called elohim supreme god plural. Notice here in verse to this being that joshua's looking at says i have given you. The city accepts worse his immediate area around him holy ground just like the angel the lower area and exodus around the bush. We must be deity. Could this command of the lower host thing we've got Samson's pair santa's mom and dad judges chapter judges. Thirteen reports three played with santon to her people. Are there and that michelle conc- very good at sanchez. Mom those shows up talk to her about right now rail. No problem with that is now shocking to save embarrass own angels. Do all right read sick judges third over husband saying man came to me and his appearance was like the appearance of the angel of god very awesome and i did not ask him where he came from nor did he tell us some moving all main lord tells santa's mom bar seven scientist right. No no alcohol new air. Can't smoke gamble. No that's the first pick. I ten and eleven older man. Who came you as gertie me then own greg and all came to the man he said to me. How are you man who spoke to one. Then he said i am burgo. That's manolas facets daddy like no of new orleans putting in front of it but then the anger lower than he repeats to him about. Science is going to be a nazar. He can't do and can do all right. So moving on fifteen and sixteen there judge that we make revere aged bermuda lord said to minoa. Though you leave more. I did not know that he was he. A good over worshipper. Sacrifice off mike. It's be very good. Jehovah was again the jewish national name for god the lord so my no of asks angel lowered what his name is. What's your night. let's see what the response was verse. Eight team play words wide. You see is long lower ninety wonderful. Have you ever heard anywhere else in scripture blade. Reverse six to us challenge born son has given the government will be on his shoulder. his name will be called. Wonderful counselor god everlasting principe's very good. Who done talking about now. Christ and wonderful and judges thirteen describing the lord from the same hebrew word as wonderful here and i was laying nine six describing christ it means to distinguish or big great art backdoor text. Thirteen judges start tinkering. Nineteen and twenty three you in often the ladies been reading about the angel lowered air now for five minutes and angel ortiz. Reading about is called wonderful except an offering from an altar and he sends a backup to heaven inflame and sampson's folks looking at danger. The lord are convinced that they'd seen something special because they fall on your face. Let's see what mr samson's thoughts for about. This minority burst. Twenty two please. So he was convinced saying ego brain ga or no at scientists mall she reassures rehearse twenty. Three hundred said only he has shown us all. Then let us hear things like this and this very good. We've already status as normal meshing. Your angel do not accept worship sacrifices on an altar but danger the lower. Your hobart angel jehovah did here and mom and dad's case let's look of what and again seven again. Let's see what stephen said about god. And the angel the lower rate in verse thirty five game states a move by a angel. Let them move. They will stay saying here. God fall amiable or to new for big. You don't send somebody anywhere unless you got my mom's sick made in the grocery store in san mama. God sent the angel. Jehovah deliver the israelites. Through most god sent his son to earth. Not the other way around. Here's a trivial verse elaine. Jehovah's thirty seven thirty six thirty seven thirty six. Screw no kid. That's a tough angel hundred and eighty five thousand one night with no tomek bombs enough. There's many other references today angel. The lower in the scriptural don't have the time but summarizing. God sent moses agent. According to stephen with the help of angel the lower the lower toll moses he said you bring forth my people. I'm coming down to deliver my people. And i've seen the fluctuation of my people main lord accepted worse. He received sacrifices from sampson's parents. He killed one hundred and eighty five thousand paypal one night. When you're on at least two occasions people close to the angel. The lord told to take off their shoes. You're you're on holy ground. They ain't gonna. Lord appeared to joseph in a dream and the new testament to tell him. Mary was going to have a baby. They ain't gonna lord blessed as with hagar. And abraham they ain't gonna lowered multiply descendants multiplied land and people who may have feared calling lord or jehovah in moses burning bush. We had the angel of the lord. Speaking as the same character as jehovah. Or y'all way as well as lane. The supreme god plural. So who is angel the lower. Your free in your own mind got two minutes. Have you ever heard us four. Is there anything you liked it. Ateret angled your home. He's one of my favorites. Now going gonna tell you up. I don't think so god. Same accepted worship. Jesus jay's office. Oh yeah when you win. You're talking to this year. I can't hear this alright got swan. I was thinking all three purchase granted for important. Okay so okay all right. That's it if we do pressure you appeared to be what opt on what thought about. I'm just move staying away real quick with the song they go to the back. Drake pro and then you know them. Taking song ago long efforts you'll be up here. 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Hour 1: Chris Low

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So we will see a freshman in the game on the road at Jordan Hare Stadium. As a afternoon game. And you. Try to put the best possible face on something that Mike Leach is struggling to right now, he is discussed a number of defections, including Kyle and Hill Mike Leach earlier. I. Take it as chums. Really. I mean whether guys looking for a better opportunity or whether. You know guys implied by the rules you know that type of thing but they used to deal with it comes but you know like I say those guys they're into another chapter in their life and So League. So we're. Any wish him the best but you know we're really concerned with guys that are. In the program that would coaching so More disingenuous line in the lexicon that we wish them the best. I always get that somebody leaves work. We wish him the best. We don't really care. Anyway let's get to next headline Dan Mullen. He's against Election Day. No not really he's against this new rule. By the way I'm against elation. He's against this new rule that is allowing players to have the day off. So they can go vote even though. As, we all know most people in this country were the majority of people have been able to vote by mail or vote in Person Early Dan Mullen? On the big day coming up. Had to Redo the entire week schedule. You know normally we're off on Sunday and that's a day of rest and recovery after a game we can't do that now. We have got to go immediately into preparation for the next game. So again, it's it's you know we're we're trying you know we try to we're doing we. Are safeties number one for us within our program and but we also have to make sure our guys who prepared and say for the game and you know they they've really kind of thrown that off. So I'm not a big fan of that rule I. Think you know Hey, there there's plenty of opportunities. The guys vote early We had a lot of great things planned for our guys to be able to do that and if they wanNA. Vote on Election Day There's plenty of time during the day to go do that you know for the guys. As we always say vote early and vote often. Meanwhile. Big Ten has Nixon Nebraska playing Chattanooga I. Continue to be a marvel at Nebraska's click SPA. The big ten had a steadfast real play big ten games because the game was canceled this weekend with Wisconsin Nebraska just went out on their own. Invited Chattanooga to come on and the big ten. So you know what? That's not how we work around her breast who has been in the big ten for a while you. Want WanNa read the rulebook. Finally. Amid developing science the Big Ten's twenty, one day covert protocol still makes sense that's an easy answer and the answer was no. and. The big ten no matter. What it does can't seem to get out of its own way we mentioned that will be among the stories that we will be talking about a number of guests will be dropping by. Including crisslow wrote at Nebraska story a minute ago Chris will be was just a couple of minutes. Josh Birdie Cheney he's the host of the Red Zone in North West Arkansas. We're on that station and we can't wait to talk to Josh about. The razorbacks Griff is. Back. In, the athletic director at Missouri Gyms Turk. He will join us. Later on But start off in New York and check in with Tom I up Hey tom after him. Good afternoon full how well thank you very much. I watched your opening monologue about the Bradsby game and I've been following this since we talked I talked to yesterday that game possibly being cancelled it ended up being cancelled Wisconsin and I've been reading all the papers and stuff in in in from Nebraska and I just wanted to Get. Your your feeling on that I thought Nebraska. Did it the right way and that they they? Reached out looking for an opponent, but they also stated that it had to be approved by the big ten. And now the big ten though so I just wanted to know why you were so hard on them in that respect I mean. I I, the the idea of going out and getting. There was no way that this was going to happen. All you have to do is make a make a phone call you call the big ten office and say listen this is what we're thinking about doing before we start pursuing it and they say you can't do it so you don't. You don't get everybody's hopes up it in the end. You're right. It doesn't make a big difference. It's just Nebraska seems to be to a different drummer than everyone else in the big ten. GotTa Try. Winning football. Games you know that might be their best route to get some notoriety. I'm a realistic fan I ask you like they've been on. The cloud. Lately we go forth. I guess they're listening to hear that they are the ones who decided to after the big ten shutdown that man we're going to go. We'll play in another league. We don't care that. That's my only point. They weren't the only big Ben came to do that Ohio state one to play the game they wanted to play other games with Nebraska pushed. No reason argue here Tom but Nebraska is always always pushing the envelope. That's that's my point. That's all. Hey, thank you for the call I. Appreciate it. We go. I don't know is this is this is this a friend? Book. We go from New York, to Brooklyn I guess it's one in the same maybe. Hey. I know. I know I think, Lsu play the all the time to the Saturday. Football game. I don't know that that's a big question mark, but I appreciate the call West is up next in Tennessee. Thank you the first time caller. Good deal. Thank you for calling. You there west. Yeah. We're going ahead. You're on the air. what do you think about the quarterback Treasurer Jangling? I think it's a mess How long are you going to stay with your guarantee? That is my question to you what do you think? that. I think I think we should have somebody chance. I. Think at this point you you need to go, we're not going to win a title this year we're probably going to have at best five hundred record probably not even that. Good. Let's get. Let's start thinking about the future and figure out what we need to do. I haven't seen any. Indicators that that is going to happen but that's what I would do He was up next in North Carolina Hugh good afternoon. Hello, Paul couple of quick things. You know we've all pretty well decided who three of the participants participants in the playoffs going to be. If they hold form I've got an idea on the fourth one. I think from the Rocky Mountains West Byu's the class team. They really are Paul and having twenty five year old linemen makes a hell of a difference. What? All the two year mission that those kids do they. They do red shirt year then a two year church mission. Then they come back as a redshirt freshman at at at twenty, two years old, and you can figure out yourself three years or four years. Later you've got, they've makings of an NFL wine and for that reason I think that's why they're clobber and people the way they are. They're the only team out west I think that can play with any of the big three in the east now one other item. I have been ready to put his shoes through my sixty four inch TV on many Saturdays, watching the quarterback play it Kentucky. I think a couple of things are going to have to happen either going to come up with joy gatewood running buying the center. Or. Are they going to have to find some new coaching? I don't think there's any way around it. I haven't heard anybody that can build a case Terry. Wilson. A nice kid but he's afraid to getting hit. He's tentative. He misses hot. And he can flow to good ball to the corner but outside of that, the passing game is non-existent. They're wasting a great offensive line on incapable and incompetent quarterback play. Hopefully, we'll see a different look noon noon Saturday Paul. Agree H he always good to hear from you. Alija is in Jacksonville. Hello allies you're good afternoon. Paul I was getting. I was listening just a minute ago and I was GONNA call. The Bash. On Mon but I'LL CHANGE MY, mind But I wanted to speak a little bit on this whole quarterback situation in Athens, and you know. I just think Kirby's taken a lot of undeserved heat for the whole set and Bennett situation you know. I think it's hard to fault. Him for having to start for string quarterback when you know. You got your first. I during opt out and then you got the guy next to mine is hurt you know what I mean Yeah the one thing I don't understand, and let's go back six or seven or eight weeks maybe longer when when Jamie Newman left. All the people that cover the team said the same thing almost in unison because maybe they were fed that information. That Jamie Newman was getting beat out beat Alabama by whom can you tell me that? I you. got. The same question. Paul. I really. I have zero clue. What is going on I mean someplace there that's where I think all this began. Now you're right once you get beyond Jamie Newman who was supposed to be the starter. It has been hard to figure out. Mathis was going to be great and it was then it was Daniels and right now. You. Know Bets Stetson is is really holding up the ship, but he wasn't supposed to be in this spot. Right you know I got hit my you know I know he's not. You know he's not gonNA come out like Joe Byrd or anything but you know he's been doing his job. No, he's done. He's only he's done. He's been asked I totally agree with you on that I need to run up against a break a lot to do Chris Lowe coming up here in a few minutes on the big ten more of your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five, we are right back. Hello everybody you're looking live at Fans Ville, a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper. Where every day is Saturday and everyone's a fan even babies. And the seasons never change because the only season this college football season get a taste of fans villa's fall. During a college football game. You Dr Pepper the official drink of Fans Ville grab some today. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. And we welcome John to the program from Knoxville Hey John Good afternoon. I was wondering if he thought he freeze GONNA come back to the the big toil. Yeah I I think it really depends on the openings. That there may not be many but I think you freeze. We'll definitely get a head coaching job in in a power five league at the minimum I i. think he's shown that. He's he's eminently qualified and I think he has overcome. Not only his own demons but the stigma that. He can't handle a big time job. Very we we agree on that and I really hope that he he gets a major job. Thank you for the call. How about frank in Queens on. Thursday afternoon. Hey Frank. Hey. Paul to. You know you really wear your feelings on your. Own. Your arm with you lead with Mike Leach. And players leaving. But Dan Mullen is an colossal mess in Florida who doesn't allow plays the vote what people attack in ninety thousand people in the stands this guy should be fired today. This guy is a menace to society and he's a horrible harbor leader on each and every way and I. The colossal goal that you didn't have to leave with him. You lead with Mike Leach, is absolutely ridiculous man. Well. First of all, I think we had most stories in our rundown. Frank. Let's let's not. You know. Go, crazy here he shouldn't be fired you can disagree with him but. Firing someone because they they. They offer an opinion it's like. Living, living in a third world country where you disagree with someone and they lock you up I mean come on. He obviously does not care about anything but winning football team is not care about safety of any of the players he politicises. Left them right how long? How has he politicized? Okay, I'll tell you right now. He he said why don't we listen to our governor just today Paul the. New. York. Times wrote who has very good reviews your book. So you probably like your came out and said that governs the Santa's along with the Atlas who replaced faculty and Burks have been not testing people in. Florida because it's too many cases that if that's not politicizing, you tell me what is then Paul. Are you going to rely on on the Authority of the New York, times as your moral compass for all things. I'd never just think you're you're the one that I listen He. He. Quoted the governor of his day care will not be shared a look kate. First of all I don't think I need to defend my journalistic. Credential ally. Will. Be Happy to if you want me to but. He lives in. Let me ask you he lives in Florida. The governor of the state dictates whether you can have five thousand and ten, thousand or eighty, nine thousand. So he was simply quoting the governor of the State Rhonda Santa's as his. Explanation for why they should fill the swamp I. Agree with you I think that was outrageous but that doesn't mean he should be fired. Would he be calling the governor of the state if it didn't have a big elephant next day his name when you don't keep it probably not right now I. Think I, think you're watching I think you're watching too much cable news right now. Frank he's courting the governor of the state can't off five ballot. Good. He's courting the governor of the state because the governor of the state is the is the final. Judge in that state over what can open and what can have you lived in a different state I really wouldn't be able to do that. I really don't think you believe that I think he's quoting the governor of the state because that fits his political narrated. So Oh okay. So What? Do you have any other evidence to support your theory that that Dan? Mullen? Is trying to push a political agenda on the people that follow him. Yet. Don't vote what? Come on he did not say don't vote. First of all frank have you. Have you voted yet. I voted. I mean if you have if you have the ability. and. The reason I voted I wasn't sure what I would be doing next Tuesday could preclude me from going to the polls and I definitely wanted to vote I mean I'm told by both people running for president. This is the most important election. In of all time. So my point being. Everyone of these players I. This is a you don't think it's a political statement to turn election day into an off day for athletes you don't. You don't think you don't think there's some politics going on there. Sure? And by the way by the way Franken by the way frank which side do you think is pushing that? I think both sides. But when you put states endanger we're not arguing we're not arguing safety here. We're arguing which political wish political ideology. has supported and push through the idea that college athletes should be off next Tuesday from practice so they can vote. Would that be one side or the other I? You know the answer to that Of course they do but I gotta tell you I really want to say I it doesn't. It doesn't fit your political agenda. Does that. That's Not. True, pool but this guy, this guy is supposed to be a leader. That's the only reason why? This guy is supposed to be a leader and not stop colossal mistake if the mistake after he just doesn't care about. But when he gate let's series with that. And I gotTa take sometimes you have been the back over the last couple of months. You've been a calming force in this crazy world for many people out there and I. It's really kind of disappointing that you're taking the stand because this guy is a joke take capel okay. First of all I really appreciate your kind words I. I've already said I didn't care for. Dan Mullen and what he said and by the way is athletic director was here last week and he he didn't support him either. So frank, it's not like we all agree with Dan Mullen and we want to see the swamp filled. I. Was just I was just simply responding to reactionary statements anyway. Let's. Try to grab another call here and mad is up next to hey, Matt Gordon head all my friend Mr Paul Farmer. Tell you this fall I. Appreciate Everything you've done for me on this show and the kind of to show meal the years Paul I WanNa make you from it that it coming to cost station. To School and cost station, I want to give my best to try to meet you fall from going to school there if I ever get into school and how e- do the same for me. Yeah. Well Matt well first of all I'm so disappointed that we were unable to to get there this year. But because of the restrictions on travel we weren't. Understand Paul occupy. Understand that. I wanted to tell you that at first before I started talking about those peak Suey and get their Bush book when they come to college station this year. Well I I can't wait for that game because I can't wait to get the reaction of you and all the Arkansas fans afterwards we're up against the break. We must take a timeout here. Let everyone calm down. And we will talk to Chris Lowe and a couple of moments more of your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five when we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Could be back great to have everyone here and always great to bring our friend Chris Low on the program. He has certainly been writing about countless things. And including the the big ten and we will talk to him in just a moment. Let's get back to the calls will is chatting with us from North Carolina Hellawell. Hey Man. How are you? We are doing great. That's that's good. Always wanted to know what your thanks Henry. Being one of the best linebackers in SEC is a sophomore. Maybe, doing Moses. Alabama with wishes all I think he's been fantastic. I just wish. You, know he had a few more compliments around him. Tommy is up next in Mississippi Hey. Tommy go right ahead. Paul I really enjoy your show y'all do a fantastic job and young really cover all the sports If fantastic to listen to you, I had just a couple of questions couple of things You might be the Mike Lee Show co-chair y'all talked about by late but we we got him last year John. Coin. You'd assault we will getting excitement brother. 'cause he bragged on him so much and but coach late he doesn't recruit very well. In the SEC if you don't recruit very well, not going very well. then. You brought up a really interesting situation it. Yeah and and and that seemed like that moment in time was about winning the press conference and you leeches resume since then has been pretty spotty. I don't WanNa come down too hard on him because I do think he's a really good coach but. Without knowing all the facts. Watch to try to figure out exactly what he's doing there. crisslow joining us. Now from ESPN Chris has been writing about a number of things including the latest. Escapades of Nebraska in the big ten Chris. Thanks for the time and. I Know Nebraska has been in the big ten for a long time, but they just don't seem like that recalcitrant child that that always gets in trouble. When when everyone else is getting away with stuff what gives what these people out there. Well the HUSKIES surly pushed the envelope Paul. You know we heard back when The big time wasn't GonNa plan initially that they just go take the ball and plating where they could. Make up their own schedule now today yesterday. Trying to fill in the blanks after the Wisconsin game was canceled with with Chattanooga and felt like they had a deal done. But the big ten said you know sort of Matombo wagging their finger? No not going to happen. We're not. GonNa make any games outside the league this year which if you look at The landscape for the big ten. That's that's dicey territory because if you don't play six games. You're not eligible for the big ten title and also think Fewer Games you play that they can't the you're going to be considered for play offer. And and no, one can predict the next move here but it does seem like that was always going to be a seriously dangerous issue and Wisconsin's case. It's already come back. I know we debated the three week protocol here but is there any walking that back in your estimation? Chris? Of course if you ask me back in. Early September or August with with the big team is GonNa go back on their initial statements they gonNA fly. I would have said no, and yet here we are. We are playing in the big ten. You. Know I really think probably too much has been throwing on cabinet the commission do I think the president through them? Because they discuss this. Initially. There was the option out there. Let's just wait before we canceled the season and see what happened. You know very similar to what the the SEC the ACC did in the presence decided. No, we're GONNA cancel and what they did is they let themselves as you well know. So you don't have dates where you can fill in a game here and there and I think it's going to be don't. This will not be the first time. That you see a school in the big ten have to cancel game and and not be able to make it up this year. crisslow with us I people always joke with me about. My relationship with Nick Sabin but I I'm a I'm a distant cousin compared to the favorite child crisslow. Who? who had a chance to visit with coach saving last week when when when they were up in Knoxville and of course, everyone knows by now that Saturday we'll be coach savings sixty ninth birthday I'm sure it was. It was interesting as always to catch up with coach Sabin but not that it was unusual for you but tell us about it. I'll tell you what was unusual about it and I sort of kid him about it that we were talking about the game this year how? You know how how unique this season was and we started talking about how much it have evolved the game of football. He just looked at me, and so I'll tell you what? I didn't think I ever. Say This but offense has surpassed defense. Good offense beats good defense. And I sort of looked like you had three heads and said, you know I never thought I'd hear you say that. I didn't say I. Liked it. That's the way it is right now and you know he's right. Give him credit because he's adapted. The way he's needed to you look at his teams and the way they're winning football games. All think about ten years ago think about the way Alabama was playing ten years ago I always go back. To that game. Lsu Bama game in two thousand eleven which really wasn't even ten years ago. The nine six game and the defensive players in the field in the way that game was basically played. They call it what the the logo game because it was basically between the two thirty. And how much different Alabama looks now and how much different they recruited in the way nick has played offensively bringing lane and now accused and I'll tell you what Sarkissian has done an incredible job calling plays and over and over again. Getting, Alabama. favorable. would. Tell mismatches matchups with opposing defenses this year. And it's so interesting to Chris because. Nick Sabin resisted it Many many years ago. But probably back in twenty, thirteen, twenty, fourteen when the game was speeding up and he kept fighting it, he didn't like it. he yelled about it, and then finally not finally, he very quickly adapted. Remembered his comment remember the statement is this what we will football to be right I know you remember that and you know he hated the temple he called him fastball guys talking about offense you guys, WanNa, play fast until tempo that just. That wasn't his idea what football was supposed to be as a defensive guy. It prohibited prohibited him from being able to substitute situationally. But to his credit, he saw that's football was that it wasn't going back. In so he brings in a kiss he brings in our kitchen brings in all these other guys analysts help help him sort of get to where they are now. And that's the way they're playing and You know kids want to play this kind of salad ball office he knows that nobody recruits. Is is relentlessly he does and. and. You're right this. That's that's what he did and and. Again, he made it very clear when we were talking last fries, he doesn't like it. It's not this is not the way he would choose for football to be, but it's the way he is, and I can promise you this. Nick. Likes winning I. Don't think he really cares what it looks like the style in. Chris, I, know we're in the middle is season but. People are always speculating on his future. I. Don't know if this birthday really means anything. Maybe the next one is more symbolic. But. As. Often as you communicate with him, has anything changed or Nick Saban going to coach until he's one hundred and fifty. He's GonNa keep coaching as long as. He. Really enjoys it. He's still enjoys I. Mean he likes. You know he told me not being out there on the practice field and you got that initial false positives that was hard tram. Course you can see him there watching practice from his home 'cause they set him up where he watched the whole practice and he's talking to all the different coaches via fallen sent. You know run over, you know this this number messed up like he's their practice standing up you could just see him standing up in front of the video they're watching practice like they can hear him that's the part he loves the past and that's the part I think he would Miss Being practiced coaching and development, and he still likes getting on the plane and going recruiting. So until that gets old or that becomes a chore for Him. I think he's going to keep going. It's changed though the you know the way you coach players. We've seen that over the last few years players come onto campus now and the. Age, there's so much. It's just a different dynamic. And you know he's done a nice job in fact, I was talking to Nadia Harris Year and he said, you know the the part that coach doesn't get enough credit for his. He's great at listening to his players and engaging his players. I mean he meets a lot. With his leadership cancel and he says, culturally, here's his players and. Sixty nine and getting ready to be sixty nine. A lot of people may think he's out of touch all but he's not he's a nice job of involving in that area as well. Before you go, you live in the Knoxville area you have some pretty strong Tennessee ties, not that that matters in relation to this next question, but you do have a pretty good. Pretty good seat at what happens on the hill up there and no one suggesting anything. Nefarious with Jeremy pruitt but it has been a rough couple of weeks for him what what's going on with him and in can he? Can Eat pivot out of this morass that he's currently in? I think we're still seeing the growing pains. Paul been head coach and I know people are saying, wait a minute. This is third year, but he hadn't been in Chin. Managing Your Staff. Managing the team all the things, the different hats you gotTa wear head coach I think we're still seeing grow in that area Jeremy's very good recruiting evaluating development kids I. think that's you strength. But still growing as a head coach and I know a lot of Tennessee fans were. You know scratching their heads and maybe saying some things I shouldn't say after the game and they hear him say that you know we're closing the gap. I think what Jerry was trying to say is the roster. Right now, maybe it looks better than he thought it looked when he got there. But you know at some point that's got to translate on the field and as much as people. WanNa Make Fun of Butch Jones and I know all the sound clips still out there. He did beat Georgia and he did before and he did win nine games back to back years and at Tennessee is you know? It's Doug dickey's to always say you're always going to be measured the coach at Tennessee. Measured value does against Florida Georgia and Alabama, and that's what I felt like coming into this season Jeremy really wanted to show mark improvement. They had to be one of those things. We've got one more chance to do that, and that's Florida at the end of the season. Yeah and His biggest challenge maybe getting a five hundred or above because he still has an Auburn. Arkansas and that Florida game at the end, which may be his last shot It's a pretty challenging schedule Arkansas. Auburn at Vanderbilt and Florida Chris is always great to have you on We we certainly enjoyed as much as any one that we we can lasso onto this. Rodeo. We hope you'll come back in. We'll do call you have a great day man. Thank you very much. The one and only crisslow. It's great to talk to him and we will take a short break. We have a lot to do on this Thursday afternoon we hope you'll stick around. You're listening to Paul. FINEBAUM show podcast. Fill is up next in Tennessee. Feel good afternoon. Welcome. Oh. Thank you. Sir, how you're looking good Powell. Thank you. Thank you and your family are staying say than the crew. Thank you very much. This war com talk to you except for things. Number one is I, just wanted to thank you personally and all your staff. For the thing that you've done for a lot of people including me in this country. Just by being there and letting us hear your voices in near your opinions and it's just so good to hear from me every day. filtering. Thank you for saying that on behalf of everyone here and I nobody knows what the future. Has In store for us. But I if it all ended today. a comment like that would make it worth it. Because it's been a challenge for everyone. In this country if in the world for that matter over these last eight months and it's been a privilege to be here everyday. Yes Sir and the hard work that goes into it I'm sure is unseen but myself and I know a lot of the people really enjoy the show we love y'all guys keep doing what you're doing. You say, well, thank you. Okay. Like Their thing I'd like to say is is today the beginning of the smart Yankee owls or? But I swear we had more calls when we feel we had more calls in the first twenty minutes from New York then then a New York sports station would get an normal afternoon. In, freight guy man he you know he just needs to keep his opinions affair just keep talking with the new. Yorker he only become down here in mass in our business. Anyway I just wanted to get that. We need. We need to we need to we need to Jan The New York signal where I mean I never thought I'd say we're getting too many calls from new. York. We are, and I'm saying that Frankie just jumped on the wagon right in a hurry and he wanted he wanted people fired prosecuted sound like he's not like he was. Running. He was running the police department in Belarus or something. It's almost sounded like he was part of the FBI. The FBI at least has has has some standards frank didn't didn't care about due process at all I. Thank you. Call Matt is up next in Cincinnati. Hey Matt. Hey Paul, how you doing we're doing great. Thank you. First. Time caller Paul big. Ten Fan SEC fan grub Columbus obviously a Buckeye Fan. I wanted to further the discussion on the Wisconsin cancelation from what I'm reading on Buck. Nuts. And other news media outlets. This has been a very Alvarez decision to cancel the Game Wisconsin decision, their first team quarterback and second team quarterback and few other. Players tested positive. therefore, he took the initiative to cancel the ball game Believe this was big ten decision no, but. But but hold on a second the the big you're right they were They were close to the line of what the big ten would have stepped in and stopped them I. Don't think they quite reached it over that. The big ten, my only criticism of. My biggest criticism of the big ten, and since they came back was the three week protocol, which is going to keep the Wisconsin quarterback out. That's that's what I'm talking about. You that's bad. But my my my concern is. If you can just cancel if you're not meeting. the big ten's protocol cancel your game. Doesn't that open up a can of worms for future games not just this year but next year say they say, Justin, fields got injured. And would you know couldn't then Ohio state or say the Milton in Michigan got injured? Can they just say well, we're canceling this weekend. you know Hey, by the let me let me let me let me come back and answer that in a moment we're up against the break back with much more. This place look hunted. Think. So what about those two creepy girls con-. Stay with us. His truly frightening. Fairly Siri. Missing. 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AP Laboratory - Episode 44

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AP Laboratory - Episode 44

"Down. What the fiber body minded, Greg down. I am the defensive Bill main Lisbor, Arrowhead fried is the AP laboratory, you might notice once again, kits one's not here. He's not leading the charge like he normally does. But with me as always is Mattie lane. The two of us are going to hold it down. While can't is soldiering through an illness right now. He's not able to be on for your sake. Not just ours, but for your sake. Apparently, he's got a really bad cough. And nobody wants to hear that all pod calf podcast. But how we doing today Matty I'm doing good. And since we are we're hitlist today. We might actually have short pod, as we all know can't has overtaken the, the throne as the long winded one here. So I say, we just get real clean in and out of these breaks. We give from one topic the next real snappy, and we just get this thing going. We show kit that we're professional but he's. Not year. Maybe the we may be the livestream. You know, guys enjoy some adult beverages and we do it, but that doesn't mean that we're not professionals. Yeah. Well, all I need to do is probably mention Meco, hardman and try and get your thoughts on him. And then we've got like a four hour podcast. So this, and how much topic do we need on wide receiver five? See there we go. You kept short and sweet. Nice. So we're gonna do QNA's today. We are doing the livestream as per usual again around eight fifteen on Tuesday nights. We're getting on the air ahead. Pride YouTube channel doing a live stream of this podcast. You can find that on the YouTube channel later you can just listen to the podcast for those of you who don't wanna stare at our beautiful faces. I get it totally. Do I understand that one hundred percent completely, but we are going to take some questions that you had on Twitter? We're going to take some from the livestream, and we're going to get into this. So I won our guy country, boy, five six seven who is going to be the player that fans choose to hate this year. I think it's just going to be carry over from last year. In Anthony is going to catch be bulk of the hey on the defense, not only do people already dislike him because of his contracts in because of what was relatively poor play last year. He's going to be put in situations where he's going to be asked to do a lot. And there's gonna be ways these helped but he still going to be pretty much three down linebacker for the chiefs. He's going to be asked to cover to defend the run. He's going to be asked to be a vital part of the fence in anytime. He shows any average or below average play. He's just gonna catch a ton of flak, because the grass is always going to be greener with the more athletic cut of Dory. Oh Daniel daringly plays. So anytime he gets any hitches doesn't make a place. Someone's in chime in about his lack of speed or how fast guy would make better play there. And I think it's just gonna go simply overlooked. What how important he is going to be for this defense. Once we get into the season and everything gets rolling. Yeah. That's a good one. I would I'm going to say shot Bruin, I two. I feel like with cornerback group the way that it is that they're putting an awful lot of faith into shot brio and much like they put into David Amerson at this time last year. And you saw how that worked out like people were still talking about him mid season. And they cut him after training camp after preseason. So I think that Bush brilliant has a lot of weight on his shoulders. He's in a contract year. He's supposed to be motivated because he wants to make money if he does not play well the chiefs are going to be a bad situation at cornerback. They don't really have a ton of depth behind him, that got some young guys that need some seasoning. But shod Berlin needs to play. Well, if he gets burned early, we're going to be seeing that a lot. We're going to be seeing a lot of complaints out of people so next. We got Keith McLean, seventy eight, any possibility that we don't extend Chris Jones, you know, that's, that's a really, really tough. Question right now. If you would ask me this two months ago, I would've said no chance there extended him one hundred percent extended him him missing minicamp. OTA's not a big deal to me. I don't really care about that at all, you know, they're, they're not mandatory. So why should you care about him? What I care about is the way the Andy Reid talked about him in his press conference, what I care about is Sammy Watkins trying to get him back in house, those comments that those two have made speak more towards there. Maybe being some discontent with Chris Jones, rather than a situation where they're just trying to work out a deal. It sounds to me, like with them trying to get him back in house that maybe a deals, not in place, until he shows that he can show up and fit in this defense. Well, which he should no problem, but he's gotta get in house. I and I think that they're waiting for him to get in house. I'm not sure that he gets a contract before he shows. Up. And I think that's the issue. I think that as a fan, I absolutely think they showed extend him they should pay him. Pretty much whatever he's asking for. I think you try to get it a little earlier than you have to you don't wanna wait until he is going to be able to walk out the door or get franchise tag. So this is the time to do it, but from a team perspective, it makes sense. There's rumblings that have been about Twitter for a while now that may be Chris Jones candidate not necessarily its own thing, but he was busy trying to make plays all the time rather than just do the dirty, which is always take on his direct assignment in with Bob Sutton. I understand that a little bit. He's not the most cutthroat coach, you can get away with a little bit of stuff on Sutton. His Cattier leader, the coach. It's going to be telling you. Yes or no? So maybe the cheese wanna see him. They wanna see him in there with this new staff. It's completely different attitude on the chief team right now. Chris Jones needs to be there. He needs to get used to his new teammates. His new coaches. I get trying to get more money but he's gonna be coming back to a whole new situation right now. He should won. To be there and getting used with these guys, the chances of getting more money while being there right now showing he's a leader or a lot better than him training and looking great down in Florida or wherever he is. But if he wants to get paid he needs to get back into camp right now to these OTA's just show, everybody that he really wants to be there. And even. So the chiefs might still wait until the mid season sometime during the year or next to do it just because they want to see him be of the play in this new scheme. Maybe Brennan daily or Steve spagnuola wants to see him one hundred percent carry out what their assignment for him is every single play over and over again, rather than maybe seeing a window that he may be Aaron Donald is known for a guy that plays off script is what he does Pete teams know, it, but he's so good that it doesn't matter. And Chris Jones is very close that caliber, but there might be a coach in Wade Phillips is at once that's why it works for the Rams Aaron Donald, but maybe Steve spagnuola, Brendan daily just want someone that's a little bit more under constraint. They want a guy that they can coach. Any given play a note they're going to get it's just little stuff like that, that we don't know about his fans that I think he needs to get into camp and show them, he's willing to work on. I mean, we I think we know this from, like Jamie Collins kind of going off script in New England that was one of the reasons why they moved on from him. Brinda daily definitely subscribes to that theory. You know, he I think he would rather work with a group of guys that are malleable that are willing to execute the scheme, like it's called rather than an elite athlete that's going to go off script. Now, I'm not saying whether or not I agree with that. I think Chris Jones is one of the five best players on the defensive side of the ball. He certainly was last year. I think he's prime for an excellent season. I just think that I I could just understand some, the logic behind, why they wouldn't want to make a deal, right? This very moment. Like Matt said, I can see him showing up playing within the scheme. And in October they put a hundred and something million dollars on right then? And there. On the spot because he's proved he can do what they want him to do. So. Yeah, I think that's the best scenario for both teams right there. Is he comes back? He shows he's the same Chris Jones as last year in terms of disruption. But he also proves that he can. He can be the undermanned that a stunt that's not gonna do anything sexy. He proves that he can sit there and drop his knee and take on a double team if that's the place calling for him. I just wonder if little things like that, or the question right now in the way Brin, the daily worked into England that just may simply not be something that he sees from Chris Jones yet. That's what Christians to get back there show them he's willing to do that. And then he's gonna get the payday. Yeah that's that's the agreement there. Yeah. Mr. see David, we've got three quick hitters. You must choose between this group. Okay. Carlos Hyde or Dera Williams. I'm I'm going to go with Carlos Hyde just due to pass protection. He's the best past protector that they have as a running back. I think that's very. Important for Andy same Corless hide. I think people forget how dynamic he was just a couple years ago as well. He's never a complete home run hitter, but he was more than capable to be a feature back just a couple of years ago. So definitely give me Carlos heights, though. And we like deer Williams like these are the tough one as a really tough one Byron Pringle or Cody Thompson, Matt. Oh, this, this hurts my soul. Because I got I got a slander somebody one way or the other for right now, give me Byron Pringle because I think he's a better vertical. I receiver in. I think that's the chiefs are going to need more to start this year with whatever the tyreek hill situation will be and even going into next year. I think there's going to be a bigger call for somebody like buy Prego who can stretch team vertically more so than Cody Thompson, who I think's a short to intermediate better route running the got yet that, that was tough. I do think that it's Pringle the coaching staff wouldn't shut up about him this week every. Everybody. I mean for God's sakes. Greg Lewis basically stepped up to the microphone and people said hi to him. And he couldn't scream Byron Pringles name loud. Enough quick enough immediate. So I do think that it's Pringle as a tough one, though. I think that they'll try and keep Cody, Cody Thompson on the practice squad if he didn't make the team. He. Oh he's making the team. Is he going to be mystery? I r I mean he's only got to get to wide receiver five so. Just backhanded slander there. See how it is been Neiman or Gary Johnson, this one's this one's the easiest one of the three for me. I'm going, Gary Johnson. You can't teach beat his instincts are not great. He needs a lot of work on that house can hammer that out form. But you can't teach that speed. Yeah, no one hundred percent gay Johnson. It's not particularly close to me either. Both guys are a little bit smaller framed. Guys, give me the guy that I know can run on special teams and can get sideline to sideline even if I have the teacher what he's looking for. All right. Next up. We got s stebbins was throwing one hundred thousand dollars at Custos as a UTSA a waste, Mattie. No, it absolutely wasn't a waste. He's a guy that if they're throwing a hundred thousand dollars out of they had other teams that they know were interested. They wanted to get him in camp because they saw something light he came in camp. And he just simply doesn't sound like he's been is. Oppressive smother guys, and quite frankly, a hundred thousand dollars to NFL team like this is nothing. They're doing that just to get a guy to come and try out because they like something. They saw all this means is the next time he's a free agent. Whether it's this year or even if he makes a team, but if he does it the next time he's a free agent. He's gonna remember a good interaction with the chiefs. He's more willing to come back your afterwards. Yeah. And I think that he's got a an outside shot him, Cody Thompson. There's a couple of guys there that could end up rounding out a practice squad, if they don't, if they don't make the team, he could show up a lot of these guys. This is still owe as a lot of these guys are still learning the playbook. They're still learning how to, you know, developing chemistry with these quarterbacks, you might see situations like Byron Pringle last year where all the sudden they get to preseason week four and they just jump off the screen. I mean he showed well in training camp but they talked often about how good he looked in that fourth preseason game. And how. Probably making the roster. And then all of a sudden it was a, an IRA for an injury that he recovered from off quickly doesn't seem to be showing any signs if you know anything there. So we could see a little bit of that. Maybe maybe Custos is that guy may be Thompsons that guy. Irish cheap one asks how many running backs do the chiefs carry this season. It's going to work through it live. We got Damian Williams Darwin Thompson. I'm gonna put Carlos Hyde in there. I think that Sherman Sherman account Sherman disturbs, a running back, his that's where it goes on the depth chart when you count. But he's a tip position tirelessly. What you think I think throw him in. It's tied into. All right. Then we get James Williams there were sitting at what four because we're not including Sherman. I feel like that's a pretty good start right there. I know I think that's what I'd go with four plus Sherman. Whatever you wanna call him. So that would mean that Daryl Williams does not make the squad. I have them trying to slip into the practice squad, again, which are not even again. He didn't even go there last year but trying to get him down there. I just it's too crowded of a room for a guy who's best skillset is too similar to Carlos odds. And I think that we need to talk about this a little bit. I see a lot of national media talking about a maybe Johnson or adding another running back to this room, many. How would you feel about if the chiefs tried to go after Johnson with the current running backs as it is feel redundant? Yeah, it definitely does because he's very much the same as Darwin Thompson or James waves. He's not in a little bit of Damien one, too. He's not providing you something that you don't have any more. He's another dynamic kind of space running back that. Was a better receiver than a runner now. Actually thinking back about it. I'm not stake. Duke Johnson wants to play wide receiver. So if they wanna bring him in to add a new wide receiver five over McColl Hartman could definitely take Duke Johnson in here. But decides that he's up for that position change still, I think there's no need to add to Darwin Thompson James lambs. That's the thing any read running backs have historically produced and it didn't really matter Spencer. Where are Kendrick, west guys like this produced? Now they may not have produced as awesome as Corrine hunt. Did or Leshan McCoy did. Or you know, there's lots of guys that definitely had better years. But I would never say that a running back had a quote unquote, bad year under Andy Reid he tends to get the most out of his running backs. Now he's got a bunch of these young guys. They've got a bunch of guys fit a bunch of different skill sets. We love Damian Williams. We think Damian Williams is very good running back. I just don't really see the chiefs really need. At a running back at this point, they've already got two full of a room and do Johnson would have to be competing with some guys that I think that they'd feel are a little more established in their offense or have traits that they like a little better. We got one more here before we take a break, we're going to do Stephan NFL, which player are fans more protective of Armani, watts or DeMarcus Robinson. Well, hot man. This is a hot one. This got this got a little heat on it. I think that people maybe it's just because I cover the defense, I think people are a little more protective of Armani watts. I do think that our money does have some growth he can do. I do think that he could be a football player going forward. But they drafted over the top of him. He showcased in limited reps. I know they talk him up quite a bit. You know they say while he was really coming on against a backup tight end. He had a sack on a blitz that he wasn't blocked on. I mean there's some stuff that people point to as being really excellent or good plays. When in truth he had two good plays and the rest of it was pretty met. And you know. Bob Sutton's entire defense was pretty mad last year. You wanna make the argument that are Monte. Watts can thrive in a different defense. Go right ahead. That's fine. Whatever. But people seem to love, our money, watts a little more than they probably should at this point. I you know, Tyron Matthew and one Thornhill and Jordan, Lucas are all guys that they chose to spend money and assets on over our Mani watt. So if you're still really clinging to our money, watts is going to start our money. Watts is going to be this major player for this defense unless there's an injury. I just don't see it yet. And this isn't easy. One for me, too. I think everybody knows that I'm going with our money watts here, it simply because you love to do a dress, the deer ups part of this year. I don't think fans defend DaMarcus Robinson that much. I actually think fans in general dealt particularly like him because they remember. An interception or two where he did seem to run the wrong route these from Alex Smith for what it's worth where he ran the wrong route and the ball got picked off. And there's been a couple of things hints at that coming out, and I would agree. He's probably not got the best grasp on the game, mentally speaking, especially going into his fourth year but for what he is he's a quality player. He runs fantastic routes. He has good feet in a good athlete. You put him out there on the field. He funds space. He's gonna make some plays Armani wants, we just simply don't know what he is yet. And let creek just said his best plays running with a fit a six offense tackle breaking up a pass on the goal line. And then unblock sack we're yet he did a good job, cutting tight corner, close the Russia, but it was unblocked like that was his season highlights and you go back to the preseason. And it was to overthrows just kind of fell into his lap and there's a skill to be position to make those plays. But the ball fell into his lap twice in. That's what we're using the talk up. You can go back there. College taper. Just watch him for Tennessee. He singlehandedly had eight Misako Alvin Kamara. I get Alvin Kamara great, but you can't have that many mistake on one player in the game, and it was just that was just the appeal to me of what I thought of Monte, watts was attempting to break down at NFL athlete in space in just completely being unable to do it. And then you want me to believe that he can play single high in the NFL or being affective box eighth the his size enough, lettuces them. I'm just not seeing it. And I believe chiefs fans are just wildly impressed by him because he has some fantastic highlights big play making ability. So he's considered the starter level player despite not showing any reason to think he's a starting level player. So he's probably like the number one chief on my protected by fans list on anybody on the roster right now. And he's, he's a very boomer bus player entirely boomer bust, and there, if you can tell them or if the chiefs tried to paint it as well. Well, we believe that he's more of the boom tight player once we get good coaching in. Once we put him in the right situation, then yeah. That makes sense. And I still think that he makes the roster. I mean he's got to beat out, Dan Sorenson, and I dance or maybe a little better fit, but he's going to make a lot of money. So if they wanna save a little bit more money, they can move on from Dan Sorenson. I, I think that safety four right there. I think that's the position that he's competing best. Like if you wanna split up your safety into your strong and deep safe dealer, just call it. You know, you're deep safety in kind of more of your close your box, eighty he's at least safety three if not four at both positions because I think you're gonna put tired, Matthew. Definitely head of him at either position, you'd probably put one four hill ahead of him. It either position in the box. I'm not wild about Daniel Sorensen the box. But I think he's better than our Mani watch is given the fact that I've seen have make significantly more tackles and looking with lettuce. Space. And if you're playing the veep, why would I trust our Monte watts over George Lucas at this point of time playing deep? So I have to safety four at either spot, you wanna put him at with what four other safeties on the roster already better than him at a specific role. I'm just not sure where the hype for him comes from right now, whether you want to focus on this college tape, or his little bit of time in the NFL. One hundred percent agree with that we will be right back after this break, and we'll catch you on the flip side. Hi. This is Peter Kosta. I'm the host of Recode media. It's an awesome podcast that I make about media wanna tell you about a specific episode. I think you will listening to with Jimmy Petar president ESPN, one of the most powerful programming networks on TV also one that's under a lot of stress. 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How do you rank the following position groups, according to your level of concern linebacker tight end and wide receiver based solely on what we currently know about tyreek hill, so wide receiver to start the right after the draft wide receiver probably would have been number one for me? But the more information or the lack of information coming out since then, I think tyreek hill plays at least half the season if not more which already pushes it down out of that number one spot. So one backers number one, and that's just because I wanna see these guys go out there and improve on what they did last year. I think they will, I think this game's going to be a better fit for raglan for Hitchens like the addition Darren Lee Damian Wilson to be able to do some stuff as the Sam linebacker. So I like the guys in the skills they half of their positions. I just wanna see them. Do it wide receiver remains number two, just because Sammy's health is always. Gonna be a concern until it's not which is going to be never, and then you might be without tyreek hill for a little bit that concerns me Byron Frank was going to be your wide receiver three or four with the so I mean, it's not a terrible group, but it's also not bad. And then finally tied in just because I don't think that she's plan on using bolts tied into town. Travis Kelsey goes down. No matter who are backup tied was we were already going to be in trouble. So there's no reason to be to art about that. Well, I see I'm gonna flip that I'm put by the end at number one drive skills, he's not practicing yet Travis Kelsey is not out there. He's still recovering from injury. Don't dancing. I saw dance. We're good. True. We did see while he was eating chicken fingers. Didn't we? That's, that's a very convincing argument. He had to go up the stairs to get into that press box that lose game too. Yeah. I'm not saying he's Alex Smith level hurt or anything like that. But he hadn't been on the field yet. And he's getting a little bit older. He's always come back from this sort of stuff. I believe that he will come back. But honestly, there's concern seriously. There's some concern there who is tied into nobody knows who tied into is right? Well, other than Anthony Sherman. But, I mean actually I'm kind of on board. Does does Anthony Sherman catch for five hundred yards? If he's the primary tight end all year long. Five hundred yards receiving. No. He does not the see that's a concerned that's a conservative. So I would put that first than I would put wide receiver again. Tyreek hill, missing half the year. Sammy Watkins is health also concerning linebacker before daringly would have been probably contending for tied in. But for the same reasons, you know, after they added daringly that made me feel a lot better about the will linebacker position. I thought Dory. No Daniel was perfectly capable of doing it, but they didn't have anybody behind him. Now you've got during Daniel is your piece in that situation. So I think the linebacker group is going to be put in better positions to succeed. And they've got a little better skill set to fit what Steve's bag Nola wants. So I think we're gonna see a little better linebacker core condition. I think Sherman, plus Dion yelled, or would combine the top five hundred yards though. As a combo tight end one to if they were to play all year, I think, yield has got enough athleticism to stretch the field. Vertically that's where I have hesitations about Sherman at time is running the scene. How often how many how what percentage of his snaps would he lineup? H-back is tied into or one, one in that situation often, but you still have to see the issue with the chiefs offense right now is Travis Kelsey spends time at the slot. Like in the agile slots, you would have to completely rework some of your offense designed if sherman's gonna get a ton of snaps. So I don't think he would ever work as tied into one, but is tied in to where he can take one hundred percent of his snaps as age fag response. That's why should give me yelled, plush Sherman and it's not a good tied in group if that's all you have. But I think you could make do if you had a healthy Sammy, and once you got tyreek hill by. Laney kid one. What is your over under projection for Pringle, receiving yards this year? He whatever the number is it's over. He put the line at five hundred yards. Mattie yards five hundred yards now under under. Hundred over. It's over. Damarcus Robinson head to hundred and eighty eight last year. No Byron Pringle touch, and five hundred yards. We, we walked back some of this Byron Pringle, love, just just a little bit. Listen. We liked by Pringle a lot. They liked Byron Pringle a lot, but let's not pretend like all the sudden he's going to be a really really excellent wide receiver. I mean he he's probably wide receiver three. If DeMarcus Robinson in this offense with getting a lot of wide receiver to looks with various injuries and things like that only put up two hundred eight yards last year with Patrick Mahomes, throwing for over five thousand Byron Pringle, hit and five hundred this year five hundred zero lot. The one reason that I would say he might even get close and I would even say, maybe even a little bit more than DeMarcus is just because he's a vertical threat like his ability to run deep the really run vertical routes is excellent. So even if he does have limited catches the chances of the lot of them being. Vertical plays I feel kinda high, but no five hundred definitely absurd. I think as of right now, if he's getting to fifty three hundred and you convert a couple of those into, you know, forty yard plus touchdowns. Oh, that's super excited about what you've got just I could see a way path for five hundred not to be one hundred percent out of the question. Because like I said he is such vertical threat. And it's not just speed just how good he is at running vertical routes agree with that in that regard. Yes. I would agree with that. Most of DaMarcus Robinson's catches, come on scramble plays. You know, so it's maybe maybe, but I still think that that's that's a little hot. I think we've got we got a temporary expectations. Just a little bit here, realize that we just got done with fifty touchdowns and five thousand yards and it's really easy to have crazy optimism about the wide receiver core. But let's pump the brakes a little bit and not try and put too much on the kid right now. Jayhawk eleven. Show. Eight last year's team was top heavy on pass rush. This year's team has significantly more depth in jayhawks opinion. Can you discuss the contrast between the two and the importance of depth for defense? Well, you know, the way that sped no likes to rotate players death is more important, I think for him than top in talent. Same with Brendan daily. We talked about a little bit earlier regarding Chris Jones, the guys that are going to do their job. And maybe don't have some of the top talent that are going to execute the scheme, like they like now that doesn't mean that they're not gonna take the top in talent. They want those guys that can do that job. But I do agree that the Jeff on this defense is significantly better than it was with Bob Sutton. I mean we look at the safety position they had to pick up Ron Parker to start for most of the year due to injury. If they had, you know, God forbid Honey badger goes down to injury. They've got a couple other options that they can lean on a little more that maybe a little better player than Ron Parker. Same with linebacker same defensive line cornerback is thin. But the rest of those positions are I think, in pretty good shape and the importance of that, you know, with all the rotation that they do. I think that that's difficult. Efficient. Yeah. Sure. Of the original question was trying to emphasize just pass, rush year someone to kind of focus their little bit. I think last year's team was actually pretty deep in terms of passers. You had D Ford was obviously stun. Chris Jones was probably even better. Justin Houston was a fantastic. Number three pass rusher in Alan Bailey, still had what four five sacks last year. You got a little bit of pressure. Exerted your Williams. There was a good amount of people on the defensive line capable of getting some pressure. So I'm not so sure if you can get a lot more guys along the defense of wine able to get pressure. But what you can do is get more blitz. You can have pressure coming from more places on the field, which I think will be a little bit more balance in the amount of players able to get that pressure for you is gonna be better undersea special. So that'll really help what against the team like New England who can't just sit back in prepare for these one or two top rushers and then expect those bait the rule players in the trying to beat them. Now you have to worry. About russia. Blitzes stunts pressure coming from weird spots, just little stuff like that. But as far as pure debt goes, I think glass used pass pretty good from the top of the bottom that was a lot of guys getting a lot of pressure last year. At once it was it really was. J J, P J eighty six says the offense was great last year. So this year. Unit doesn't get a ton of scrutiny. And in the AFC championship game. No one gets past the four and the defense. And the blameless Patrick is wisdom plays breakdown, but the offensive line needs to be better can this offense of line improve, and who is the best left guard that they currently have? Okay. So the last two questions kind of go together the often on cannon proof if the best left guard place, who has Angelilli man L D T stays healthy at right guard. So if you get that, I think the offensive line will be better my issue with the overall point, though, is, I'm not sure offense of line needs to be or should be much better. They're definitely a top ten pass blocking unit for an offense of wine in that was even with injuries to both guard spots and the center, most of the year, it was a pretty darn good offense of line in terms of Pash blocking, which is much more important to the game of football right now, especially for the chiefs. So yeah, there's a little bit of ru. Mm for in some of the run blocking. But as far as overall performance goes, I'm not sure you can ask for a whole lot more for the amount of resources. Chiefs have been putting into the offense of wine. I think they've been performing excellent for what the chiefs have been putting in lately. And I paid three guys they significantly paid three guys. Obviously Austin writer got a second contract. Camera Ving got another contract, but the three guys that they really paid Mitchell Schwartz. Eric Fisher Lauren Duvanov tardy eve those three guys. I think if you got them on the field and Andrew Wylie at left guard, which is where he was lining up in training camp prior to tease injury. I think that, that group of four is pretty darn good. Like, I, I'm okay with all of those guys, Austin riders a little bit of a question Mark, but they can kind of hide him a little bit. They can kind of give him a little help. With those two guards I. I think that the offense of line while it could improve. And they could invest a lot of intra into it. I'm I'm pretty okay with it, and I'm pretty okay with the depth on it, too. So Mendes seventy nine asks favorite sheafs memories? Oh man. This, this was a tough one for me. Because I as these guys will let you know, a lot, I I'm older than them by, by a small amount just a lot of memories that shoes from. Yeah. So I have a few how was the first Super Bowl? I mean that make your top five listen, the first Super Bowl or Super Bowl four. No, the first one like tiddly and you should remember most of it. I mean. Yeah. I don't have anything for that. I think I got to see Derrick Thomas play and in-person in the stadium. He was just an electrifying player to watch. You couldn't take your eyes off of him at any point. He was just very clearly the best player on the field. Adults every time he was on there. And you couldn't look away from him like it, everybody going nuts over Mahomes, would've been going just as nuts over Derrick Thomas back in the day, for those that you didn't get an opportunity watching just heard stories. It's that level of focus that he requires. You can't not watch him you they you're just so dialed into him because he was such a great player. So I got to watch him play in person, once, and that's probably one of my favorite chief's memories is getting to see him in person. That's a great one might once a combo of two games. It was that terrible Oakland team that ran all over the chiefs defense. Hadn't allowed a rushing touchdown. In kind of a Eric Bury's last game before finding out he had cancer. And then pair that with the first game back when he was healthy he played against Oakland, and he picked up and dropped latavius Murray ride on his back and just all the different Jeff's, and highlights of just comparing tavis Murray running seventy yards somehow. I don't know how that ever of the yards versus the Eric berry, dropping him on his back just back to back, just the, the combination of those two games. Fantastic. Love their Barry still do even as frustrating, his last year was just the his story of going through that, overcoming it. And just kind of getting that back to back on a play from him. Those two games were essentially the same team was pretty great. Just a just because I'm thinking about it. And just to prove again how old I am the only player more really electrifying. Because Patrick Mahomes, Otis Taylor. No. No not. Although good. The only player more electrifying, and I'm not throwing Pat Mahomes into this yet, we certainly has potential to just be that was Bo Jackson. I got to watch Bo Jackson plays. Well, and my goodness that thirty for thirty about Bo Jackson in Cavs everything that it was to, to watch Bo. Jackson, you know, just everything was effortless. And again, it reminds you Patrick Mahomes Arab enemy talked about, how would you, they see him do this type of stuff did the left handed pass, and then he came to the sidelines and they spit the play out? Andy gave him the play he, he gave it to Pat on the field, and then he turned, and he stopped for a second. He turned to end any went to. He just throw that left handed like, you know, just coming out of nowhere. You just get you get used to it. You get used to the magical things happening and they start accumulating in such a way that you miss some. Of the truly magical things they just become commonplace for you. And I mean, it's kind of awesome that we got another thirty for thirties, top five thirty thirties, the you number five, the hating of Christian Leitner number four Jackson was three. Number two was Randy moss. Number one was definitely run Ricky run home. I got that's a really good list, especially feel tad. Leave enough mad boys one too. I really wanted to put the pistons on there and they probably belong. But that, that's a strong top five for me, man. That's a really strong top five. I man, I'd have to look at the list, I really would have to look at a list, because I'm might fully agree with it. I might move bow up to number one just because but it was a great one. I think some of the other ones had a little bit better production for him. And just getting to see Randy moss. College highlights. Well, I'm throw my soccer to Escobar's was excellent as but as a good one, I didn't understand both good one. They kick stuff what? Yeah. So if you are in the livestream go ahead and submit some questions we're going to answer a question, then we're gonna come to you guys. So go ahead and submit those right now, we'll get to you. Ero Dante's asks if Josh Norman gets cut does he make sense for the chiefs. I could not put a bigger. Yes. On on that, if he gets cut I wouldn't trade for Josh Norman, I don't think his contract is worth reading for he's making on awful lot of money. I don't think that he's making or that he's playing to that level. I would bring Josh Norman in, in a heartbeat reunited with kindle fuller ambush Brillon in zone heavy scheme. That's where he's featured best in. He's, he's a good zone corner. So put him in those spots, ask him to play kind of with his is in the backfield be a little more opportunistic. That's going to be were Josh Norman can really be a good play. Pay dividends and put him on. I know a man going to say on this. I'm going to say it, but I put him on a one year deal and keep him hungry. But I know has a few different thoughts on that. Yeah. I love the idea of adding Josh Norman if he becomes available. I think that he fits perfectly understood will fit in really, well the scheme he's played a lot of matches own coverage over his NFL career. He fixed the mold. I think that he would be able to pick it up relatively quickly. He knows some guys all the defense in the defensive backfield I think he'd be good there. I'm a huge fan of one year deals when it's vet player get him for a two year deal or a three year deal that you can get out of after that second year, just because I don't see the point of paying a guy for one year just to have to fix it again the very next year would it something you need as badly as cornerback right now. So I understand that Norman has plenty of scientists. But if I could sign him for three year deal backloading it with a ton. Money in that third year than I'll pay a good amount. Also, pay plenty for year one and two because we need them, but I would put more money on the, it's similar to the Sammy Watkins deal. That's essentially a two year deal with the option to pay a ton of money in years, three. Give Josh Norman similar deal just less money. Clearly in put him out that let's get him for at least two years, so that he can help as really rebuild the cornerback position rather than just be abandoned and see I'd be fine with that. I can make that work. Like I I'm not opposed to bring him in for a little bit longer term deal. I just wouldn't want him to get complacent he's to get a little bit complacent in Washington with his pay maybe some of that scheme. I know that they tried to play a little bit more may in heavy when he first got there, and they slow transition back to zone where he could be a little bit better player. But he would clearly be the best cornerback that could bring in on the roster. You know, at this point in the year if he was cut okay taking some of these questions from the lies. Andrew m says you can bring back one of the three recent retirees to come back and play for Kansas City, this season in prime form to you take Jamaal Charles Derrick Johnson, or Dwayne Bowe consider hypothetically tyreek isn't playing twenty eighteen. I don't think Bo really fix anything about the tyreek hill situation. I like him just key would be more like Travis Kelsey replacement to me than he would Tyree kill. So give me Derek Johnson playing the will in the four three slides over to Mike in the nickel prime day Johnson would elevate this defense to such another level. The I I can't even talk about too much, or we will be going fifty minutes. I've yet not prog Derrick Johnson is an absolute game changer for this defense. He fixes soem any things and he gives them that the will that we'd be asking Anthony hitched to be link the he, he would change so much. So that would be it for me. We've got another question here. I know it's way too early, but who are a couple linebackers in next year's draft that you would like the chiefs to go after. I don't know how many how much you've looked at some of these guys Mattie. Have you at all? I got a couple so you can go first that way, a few takes I don't wanna take anybody you would have. I mean, I the guys that I know are like Muhammed's do out of ole miss. Let's see David Reese, out of Florida. I I'm aware of some of these guys from watching some other guys I you know, but I don't have a ton for inside linebackers now. All right. So Dylan Moses Alabama. You watch MAC Wilson without saying, Dila Moses far superior linebacker on that team. He was at one. He was recruited at the age of thirteen or something like that violet. Bama, that just lets you know how physically talented. He is. I also love is Ahah semi. Nhs, the athletes, upside of Isaiah Simmons who plays a very similar role to door. No. Daniel did it Clemson. He's at comes at now he ran step for step with Travis E, T N, who's running back. It's expected to probably run of the four threes. So he's a kind of safety linebacker hybrid player, but he's big enough to play linebacker and then kind of a little bit of a sleeper for me. I like Troy die out of organ. He's not going to be the most athletic but he understands the game. And I think there's a little something special. They're just mentally that he's gonna be a good player in the NFL, even if not the flashiest drastic. No, actually, I got to watch a little bit of Troy die, because there was some questions about whether or not he was coming out the this past offseason. So I did watch a little bit of him there at Oregon. I forgot about that. That's, that's a really good one. But obviously the correct answer is you'd move Delpit to linebacker and he'd be the best one in the class. Right. Medi. I mean he Dylan Moses really good. Help it could probably do anything you ask. Yes. All right. Thank you for your questions on the livestream. We're gonna hit this last one to get out of here, straight out of EMA for the X receivers. What are the distinctions or different roles that they would play Mattie? So we're talking like x receiver. Here's your possession receiver like just a guy on the line of scrimmage or we talking guys that kind of fit the general profile is gonna take the receiver the position of general. So your ex receiver is kind of he's your bigger wide receiver. He's your possession guys. So he plays all the line of scrimmage, he's gonna see a lot more press coverage than any other wide receiver. He's your guy to run more short intermediate routes usually gets the best quarterback. But as the games yet evolved a little bit your best quarterbacks a lot of times in the slot or will play on a faster kind of z flanker wide receiver. It's more of your. Threat. But neither here nor there. You're s receivers Dwayne vote. He's a guy that doesn't usually get as much separation, but he's gonna make more contested catches. He's going to be a little bit more physical run over the middle of the field. Whereas other receivers like Byron Pringle or tire. Kill or Xeres eagles or slot receivers. They're going to be your vertical threats operate veterans space. So right now, you're ex wide receiver Sammy Watkins, and I'm not sure I don't know who the back of X wide receiver is last year. It was Chris Conley, but they lost him. So I think the mortgage Robinson may be Cody Thompson, or your next line there just because of the next head of bigger skies. But we don't have a great traditional X wide receiver on the roster. And maybe that's just a kind of showing wear the NFL's villainous Stanage via I don't know that. I mean we kinda mentioned a little bit last week that they tend to or the recently ineffective have gone to lighter faster, better route runner sorta guys in that situation. So yet. That, that position may just be fading away a little bit. Obviously Julio Jones AJ green those guys are elite wide receivers. And you just can't stop them, but yeah, de'andre Hopkins. That's another great one. Yeah. That might be about. We're Cody Thompson, actually makes a little more sense because just because he can fit in that role a little better than maybe anybody else could. That's currently on the roster. We got all these fast guys that are vertical threats. They may need somebody that can kind of back up Sammy NBN underneath receiver, especially with his injury history. So go Jeff t Higgins, go draft he Higgins. Yeah, there you go. Thank you, all for listening, if you like this. Please go give us five star reviews. They like it when we say that they like it when you give them you guys have been doing it and it's been fantastic. Thank you so much for doing that. Thanks for hanging out with this today on the podcast. And we will catch you next time. Yeah. If you guys are listening, late, make sure to tune in, if you get a chance to Tuesday nights about eight fifteen central time, where live on YouTube on the arrow head pride channel here jump in. 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Hour 2 - Joe Manganiello (07-18-19)

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He'll join us a little bit later on Joe Manganiello will join us in studio is well. He's got a baseball movie out Big Steeler Fan mclovin just saw Joe in the hallway and you were kind of took your breath away. Yeah you know how some accurate or short in person and sort of year like what's the big deal with that guy. It was Kinda the opposite way six five yeah I six. I thought all actors were sure what happened to that. They we are <hes> Vince Vaughn will surprise you when you see Vince Vince is like six four trying to think if there's somebody else that stands out because of their high Tim Robbins remember we had yeah. He's he's four six five yeah yeah and there's height ISM in Hollywood. That's why I never truly made it being six three. You know I had a hard time. How many rolls did I lose out to Tom? Cruise Colin Farrell Rob Schneider. You know some of the great actors I lost some roles to just because I was too tall. You're going to be deuce these bailout Rob Schneider that was still one of those bizarre phone calls you get rob. Schneider calls me and he says hey I want you to be in Deuce bigalow European Gigolo and so I wasn't even in the original original Deuce bigalow which I did was funny and he goes. Hey I want you to be in Deuce bigalow European Gigolo and I go okay because we're shooting in Europe in like three weeks and I go well how many days he goes probably six weeks. I go no rob. I have a job you might not be familiar with the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Dan Patrick on the Dan Patrick Show and he wanted me to be in Deuce Deuce. Bigalow European Gigolo could've won your First Academy award if you know did you see Deuce bigalow European Gigolo help of it. I made a good decision. I don't turn down many movie roles and I probably should that might be the only movie role I've turned down. It's I mean the great movies. It's hard to make a sequel caddyshack do godfather to Deuce bigalow too. I did like Deuce bigalow. You know Deuce bigalow bigalow European Gigolo. They sell the brand with that and they did. They lost me with that. One there all right so joe John is coming up got our poll question which is sponsored by man versus food on Cooking Channel mclovin. Did you settle on one by put up to start with with what is the coolest major courses year with Augusta Royal Portrush and Pebble Beach Actually Pebble beach jumped out to an early lead one yeah. You can't go wrong with Augusta but I've had bad rounds at pebble but I've never had a bad day at pebble. We can switch up. I got an M._B._A.. In a college football option later in the show if you'd like let me hear what those are okay N._B._A.. Start with. Would you want Chris Paul on your team. I know that's a loaded question okay. I got a factor in the salary in his yeah so probably no win that one because of those given his salary in his age no I don't do you know that he started his career. In Oklahoma City member when you know Hurricane Katrina Lina forced the Hornets out of New Orleans and then they went to Oklahoma City and they were there for the first two years of Chris Paul's career. I forgot all about that that Chris Paul was in Oklahoma City so it's actually a homecoming coming because Oklahoma City welcomed the Hornets because they didn't have the Oklahoma City thunder because that was still the Seattle Supersonics and all of a sudden the Oh Chris. Paul said he loved the hospital. I don't know if he wanted to go back and live there play. Hey there maybe visit but Chris Paul sort of a homecoming. I also saw this anonymous N._B._A.. G._M.. Quite Leonard doesn't rally his team. Okay here we go Rick Bucur of the bleacher report relays the unnamed general managers critical thoughts on Kawhi Leonard in a column concerning the N._B._A.'s recent frenetic free agency period Colli is great getting his but he doesn't elevate it anyone the G._M.. said he doesn't rallies team. Another anonymous executives thoughts provided a counterbalance to the above criticism concerning Leonard's argued shortcomings he does have leadership qualities on executive said it depends on how you define leader he's obviously not vocal and he's not a galvanized after he does it with his work ethic and by example which leads me to what kind of leader do you want the the guy who is firing you up with his words or the guy who goes out there and takes over a game in the final couple of minutes and went to championship or two. I like the guy who goes out there and does it on the floor because I could be really good at firing you up and then you go out and make all the plays that doesn't make me a great leader. Great Leader is when things are bad and then you do something the guy who gets in there and raw in the middle of the huddle. Oh and he's yelling and screaming. The cameras are on him as not a leader yeah mclovin. I totally get that I mean if you get Kawai. It might take you six games to win the finals. There's a lot of anxiety. How can you possibly insult quite the do just single Hanley water title? We always look for criticism or somebody's always looking out to criticize somebody. One of my favorites was when a former teammate of cal ripken's told me that there were guys on the orioles who got upset that cow cow after games had the audacity to go out and sign autographs and take pictures and they're saying you're making us look bad by doing that. Also the CAL ripken stayed in another hotel. Then his teammates but I asked cal about that and I said why did you stay in a different hotel and he said if I stayed in the same hotel with my teammates everybody I make it harder for them because people are there waiting waiting for autographs. I bet that comes off. Well not very well it didn't I'm doing you a favor by not staying with you because everyone's here to see me and I'll I'll get the masses away from I what he's saying in theory but that would not play well if I were a teammate but if if you have somebody who says yeah cowl ruins enforced because you know what he goes out there and signs autographs therefore we have to go out there and sign autographs eight seven seven three D._p.. Show email address DP. Dan Patrick Dot Com Paulie got the leader board. I WanNa know the ugly glee scores You all right Phil Mickelson plus five. That's not good Adam Scott plus five Rory's plus three Francesco molinari plus three Zander schlafly plus three couple good ones though Jordan spieth minus three reenter okay and Kepco as always under okay tiger teed off. I don't think so I mean is he teeing off not as he teed off. That sounds like he's angry. I don't have as playing yes todd I think he tees off in a few minutes. Okay I think ten ten with it's my birthday and breakfast birthday. They seem to same same exact day and year yeah not just ten ten. Thank you Golden Road Brewing if you haven't tried it what are you waiting for. Morio went to dodger dodger stadium on vacation and he went to the Phillies Stadium and he said Golden Road beer all over the place there so you can get mangled cart and we'll pop session I pee on tap and he said everywhere you go and that's nice to know you. You know they start advertising with us. There are partners with us and now look. We got him in Dodger Stadium Philadelphia taking over the world with Golden Road. Try It. You'll love it California inspired available in all fifty states golden road brewing all right <hes> so I mentioned guest list here bobby will join us. We have a certificate that we made up for bobbly after forty years we we misspelled appreciation. Oh yes we did but we were really close. You you have one P two R's in there in appreciation and you said roughly in its bobbly Robert Lee. No it's Bob Lee I checked. We compete his name's Robert. quit am and forty years at the mothership. He was there three days days after E._S._P._N.. Started Bob walked in and then never left back in the trailer GAILLARDE's yeah they had they had basically trailers as the offices there for <hes> the mothership that Bob was there. I think three days in Chris Berman I came in. Maybe a week or two weeks later Tommy's also I hope that E._S._p._N.. One day gets around to naming building. Not Not that Bob is asking for this or the Tommy's or that. I want anything because I don't named the newsroom after Tom Mees name a building after Chris Berman in a building or something after bobbly you know the bobbly studio. I don't know I mean these without these guys E._S._p._N.. Doesn't happen it. Just doesn't somebody eventually would do you a sports network but they they took on that. They had the courage to do it and go in there and gone. I don't know if anybody's watching. I don't even what we're doing. It was going to be Connecticut sports next thing you know you're Australian rules football and you're thinking you know what am I doing with my career like are we. Are we going to be good. Is anybody going to watch us. I remember when I got there in one thousand nine hundred nine as much as I loved being there because does he was twenty four hour sports. I thought I don't even know who's watching because we didn't. We didn't nobody gave us. Any Intel. Management didn't say hey you're killing it or these are the rating we didn't know first couple years had no idea no the idea and I can't imagine what it was like for Bob and Chris in Tommy's but those are the founding fathers there Mount Rushmore really has three guys on it. It's Bob and Tom you know the late Tommy's and Chris Berman Yeah Paulie I I remember back in like eighty three eighty four they would show all the college basketball highlights and I know they only had Australian rules football and weird events for live properties but you could turn on sports center in in the mid to early eighties and see all the Georgetown Georgetown highlights in Syracuse highlights and one-stop shopping and it was so much better than your local broadcasts which showed you the the cubs won highlight from the cubs won high from the socks new Blah Blah Blah and I grew up with that local sports and you were doing three minutes of sports and I wasn't good enough to get a job doing local sports is I've talked about before even weaken sports and then when I saw E._S._p._N.. Come on the Air Lego. God twenty four hours was sports and doing sports centers. This is what I WANNA do. I don't know where Bristol Connecticut is but sign me up when you guys started doing the eleven o'clock sportscenter. When did you start that eighty nine when I got there? I started doing the eleven o'clock I think three months in with Bodley I think if remember right in the late eighties early nineties they would repeat that sportscenter basically seven or eight times from eleven pm until seven or eight. No you would have the eleven live one o'clock live. One o'clock would play in the morning. Okay Okay but you would require the eleven o'clock played elite twice Sunday night aired all Monday more okay. That's it then because in in college we used to watch it to the point that I'd watch your Sunday sportscenter three or four times college student staying up late and I knew when the cub highlight there'd be thirteen after the hour and then the feature on blank would be twenty four hour you just over and over and over I remember our boss Steve Bornstein and really very sharp executive and he said <hes> we're going to replay. WE'RE GONNA rear ear sportscenter or like. How would you do that and he goes? You know that morning so you have a whole generation that watch sports center in the morning and then we wanted you to watch sports center when you got up before for you went to school and therefore you couldn't stay up at eleven o'clock or one o'clock in the morning and it was brilliant because you we made sportscenter there for you we you it was available whenever you wanted it it was there and and it was a brilliant tactical move by Steve Bornstein because these kids who were couldn't stay up till eleven o'clock or one o'clock in the morning. We're getting sportscenter at six A._M.. Before they went off to school so very fortunate but the best thing that ever happened is sportscenter was we had the big east and that big Monday with the Big East in the big twelve and we had an audience that lead into the eleven o'clock sportscenter and also Sunday night Sunday night baseball you had an if you don't have that audience then people aren't necessarily staying with you or in the appointment viewing and we're very lucky with that very lucky that we had the pro life programming. That's what everybody wants. They want live programming lead leading into the studio shows. I saw mclovin. We're going to stay with that. Poll question one more poll question. I can save it. Go ahead but it's a little bit conscious will make people mad. Who is the Premier College football team in the nation? I'm only giving you two choices. One wears orange one wears red or Crimson Alabama Clemson. Who's WHO's the premier team and I know people thought I was crazy? When I said try this? Ask Your friends what conference Clemson plays in just casual sports fan. He go man. Hey what do you think a Clemson in the S._e._C.. Nobody's going to bat and I if they're casual sportsman will go yeah you know. Can they win another national championship there in the A._C._C. but they play like there in the S._e._C. and I think that's what <hes> that's interesting when it comes to how they transformed that program also did you see where they they had the media day between Clemson and Alabama and you had one of the players his name is Dylan. Moses Alabama linebacker he dismissed Clemson was the better team in the College Football playoff national title game despite despite the fact that they got be forty four sixteen it was more preparation Moses said of Clemson's win. I wouldn't say they were a better team. So is Moses coming down from the mountain saying that Nick Sabin didn't do a good job in prepping his team name. Wouldn't you say the other to the contrary. You know what we just didn't play well. They outplayed us not preparation because that sounds like coach didn't do his job. Moses had ample praise for Georgia which hasn't defeated Alabama since two thousand seven. Oven he said the bulldogs are definitely the hardest team. I have played in college all right a little trash talking there. I like it what mclovin and first of all you have what nine weeks to prepare for that you're saying Nick Sabin then prepare for Clemson that's insane but Clemson was the better team and instead of just saying they were the better team that day. You know we didn't play that well when you say we weren't prepared then you're saying you know what Nick Sabin didn't prepare us there eight seven seven three D._p.. Show email address sepia. Dan Patrick Dot Com twitter handle with D._p.. Show you could watch on dot com direct. T._V.'s audience don't Channel Two thirty nine. We're on three hundred sixty radio affiliates around the country. Look who's on the couch over there. Joe's in town Joe Joe's in town looking good. He's wearing a shirt. Fortunately that means we don't have to go. It's early. It's early. We haven't even started the interviewed wait till he sits down and we all take our shirts off Yep. He's as a professional actor. He could drop that shared one second he could. He could rip it all right now and once again. I'm all in anybody else. Only ended up. Joe Takes off his shirt not if he does because I know I don't look good but next to him. Am I look really bad all right. We'll take a break here. Joe Manganiello will join US got a baseball movie out that takes place in the Bronx but I know he's big football guy steeler fan. Maybe I don't know how big steeler fan is now with <hes> A._B.. Gun Levy on bell going. I do think the steelers are going to be underrated this year all right. We'll take a break coming up on eighteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show okay. 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I got new lyrics for the rap Break Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by State Law Joel Mango Nilo prior to Chris Pittsburgh P._A.. Big Time movie star. What do people say on the street city? They usually pronounce my name wrong what you got it right so that was actually great okay. So what do they say. What did they say <hes> I mean usually they wanNA talk about? We'll see like my kid loves peewee Herman We Watch Your Movie Five Times a Day with pee wee or it's <hes> you know when I'm going through airport T._S._A.. It's like oh it's the Werewolf. Oh my I get a lot of that and if it's women than it's usually something about Magic Mike. Which one do you like hearing? I don't mind him. All I mean. It's not like you're like I don't like touching me while I'm meeting so it's probably it's conditional like it's all good wait. Wait wait until sometimes like they want to. You know like itself. They'll sit down at the booth with a camera like I'm mouthful. I can't even talk because my mouth so full and so you sometimes you get strange situations thrown out you even if your wife is there less so with my wife around you know she's Colombian. There's there's a chance that you might disappear. Never never be heard from again. Does your wife get that kind of treatment from guys now. The official introduction of the movie is bottom of the ninth which hits theaters tomorrow available as a video on demand Burt Young as in this movie young as in the studio right now. Oh No do you think there we go okay. Do you think fritzy looks like Vince Young <unk> Ara been so so the former actor from rocky uncle polling now be honest joe does does he look like I feel like we should do a scene from Komo news or like you know saying no pie eating contest for rocky to Bali give Joe you're rocking impersonation. I say you can't win. You're GONNA Yeah No. That's my mic Burgess Meredith there. I was wondering if he wasn't doing anything the next thirty years you wouldn't mind marrying me very much and that stallone. Why don't you do burr young? That's who you look like when they got off the plane at rocky for he goes. I don't like these guys. Maybe they'll let us know too much. Neither what I do so joe just got done with the movie just wrapped with Utah d'appel gangs yeah. I didn't know that I so this is a movie. You kind of have a second chance in life you go to prison you. Come back and you're going to have a baseball field on that. You're going to be managing your wife. Life is in this movie as well yeah all right okay so like and then go Joe Yeah. Thank you <hes> so I play. It's called bottom of the ninth. I play a nineteen year old nineteen year old kid who was a baseball phenom he grew up in the Bronx in the shadow Yankee Stadium and winds up getting drafted by the Yankees so the pride of all the Bronx one night he's out with his neighborhood friends and gets into a fight hits the kid the kid falls backward smacks his head on the Kerb and <hes> and I get nine years in prison for it <hes> I get another nine years tacked on for violence in prison for basically like staying alive doing what you had to do to stay alive in prison. I get out eighteen years later in my late thirties return to the Bronx Bronx. The charter put my life back together after missing my mother's funeral I missed baseball. I missed the Yankees and I also wind up running into the girl who's hard. I broke it nineteen. When I went in and through the film it's a story of redemption and wet like with someone who made a mistake as a kid has to go through in order to feel like they deserve good things in their life again and I wind up getting a second shot at baseball through an old coach played by Michael Michael Response from the deuce great actor and he calls me up and said Hey? How'd you like to have a job back in Baseball and through coaching I wind up at bat versus? This like rehabbing former cy die young winner with a screw loose played by Brian Wilson like the Beard Sands Bidder so people like watch the movie. They don't even know it's him. Oh my God that was a former relief pitcher former world champion Brian Wilson <hes> crazy ah but amazingly I love this guy and and so <hes> through this kind of like pitching battle against him in an a practice everybody sees that I still I still have I still got the stuff at so. I want to getting a second chance of baseball through the minor leagues as I'm trying to like put my life back together and then of course bump into this woman that I was in love with when I was nineteen when I went in back it's rekindled too but how do you act. How do you do not bring in real life to acting when you're with your wife? How does that work? Is it harder to work with your wife because now I think are you acting. Yes very much <hes> because I'm playing a different character. You know I'm playing a guy who got out of prison. That's after eighteen years and and doesn't really trust themselves. You know if you're like beating a guy with his bare hands or you know so <hes> you know he gets out and must the love scenes are an awkward well well. Here's the thing so it's supposed to be awkward because this this is a guy who is like hasn't been around a woman in eighteen years let alone her and feels guilty for hurting her and throwing her life off course and so you know when I kiss her in the movie I'm kissing her in character which is weird to them. Straighter demonstrate that on polling he's not that good looking. That's what happened in prison learn. You GotTa do what you gotTa do to get by <hes> so you know so. There's an amount of it. The yeah yeah that is that is strange but in those moments. I'm on the character kissing my wife. Who's playing a character? Not You know it's not me kissing her. So that's way too deep for me. Does that make I can't it but there's also a history between my wife and I that then becomes easy. I know little tricks to make her smile and she knows little tricks to do the same to me that are indicative of people that have spent a lot of time together so that actually helps because you know each other so well. What's <hes> what's your baseball background and you you played sports in high school and <hes> you know football as well but I played football is GonNa play college basketball but I went for I went for theater which how did I what did you get injured and therefore the you went into theater after you got injured injured then you injure knee I did yeah I injured? I Tore My M._C.. L. Returning to kick off against ringgold high school which was Joe Montana's high school funny enough. Yeah cheap shot artists there. You know damn that wrangled hammering <hes> so I tore my M._C.. L. Return and kickoff <hes> and you know it made me start thinking about what I really wanted to do. Down the line. You know western Pennsylvania sports really competitive go home and its western Pennsylvania where they love their football and you say to your parents. <hes> I want to go into acting well. I A new from the time I was a kid. I was an artist in my heart and I knew that if I didn't want doing something involve that I was never going to be satisfied so it was that point that made me think what do I really want to do but at that point still I don't know if that was a possibility to go be an artist professionally so my plan was to go to college to play basketball and I was going to go into federal law enforcement. I had a cousin in the F._B._i.. And I was talking to him about how to get in there and what what branch I wanted to go into and my high school had a T._v.. Studio and they had cameras and I would take them out on the weekends and right movies for my friends. I wrote a full length feature in high school and how Right T._V.. Shows and I will cast ask my friends and so I kinda backward into acting or theater through like filmmaking as a kid and <hes> and then I want trying out for Carnegie Mellon Drama School and I got in which was like super hard to get into so I got in with the scholarship our ship and that was it and so that was like how my that was how I launched in it so it wasn't necessarily I got hurt and then wound up over here. It was like no I was just trying to. I just knew that was who I want. You did other the things you you were Rhody for banned. Yeah in between gigs is an actor yeah my friend John Feldman's the lead singer of this band Goldfinger and he was like hey man. Do you have anything going on next month and not just hanging out struggling ogling artists lifestyle and he's like. Do you WANNA come out on tour with us. We're GONNA DO Australia New Zealand Hawaii Canada U._s. such area so just throw drunk kids off the stage every night. Could you do a movie off that. Maybe maybe probably in Shamsher roadhouse to oh well now. You're talking yeah. I think roadhouse. Is there some great lines in roadhouse. I love roadhouse man. Don't hurt course yeah I I yeah. Let's do we do another roadhouse. Are we doing it. You could play Sam Elliott. We get your mustache growing. Yeah my voice a little bit. I got smoke some heaters or you could be the the guy who owns the evil guy who owns in town. You know what I'm saying but I get a love interest. You could have a ton if you're running a town man. I Want Michelle Pfeiffer. Let's call it okay all right good get Paulie colleague David Kellyanne and ask him if Michelle can come out and play okay. How important are the steelers to you? Still what do you mean still well. I I don't know be auto board me torture me and shoots under the finger talking to me award or a super bowl for the steelers. Well okay so I but I I was there in Super Bowl forty three. I witnessed them win so I'm GonNa take the Oscar like no offence guys but I got to take the Oscar right now but the best supporting actor not actor academy work. I'll take it here's a like I think they're gonNA win again before Ben's done there. I said it I like him. I there's less drama this year you very much <hes>. Have you met Ben said dinner. <hes> when I was back in Pittsburgh a few months ago yeah now I I know ban of hung out with him a bunch of times. I know like most of the guys I was at Ryan Chasers wedding recently <hes> so we're we're. We're buddies had to be pretty emotional final incredible yeah. He was told eighteen months ago that he was never gonna walk again yeah never going to you're not going to walk. You'RE NOT GONNA get to play with your kid and there. He is walking down the like bouncing down the aisle bouncing up the steps dancing all night like he's incredible is such a strong. I don't know if he'll ever be able to play again but you know I just. I just hope he's able to live a life then. That's all like I know that he wants to have goals. Goals but I look at it and I go I just I just hope he's healthy just to be able to you know play with your kids and do normal things but that's a sign of a champion. I know in in the mind when your goal is to play again if your gold is the play again like look look where it's gotten him so far yeah he's he's now defying the odds the guys miracle the movie is bottom of the ninth that hits theaters tomorrow <hes> burt young as one of the stars and <hes> jove courses leading the charge here. I was also noticing being a couple of things yes METALLICA. Are you big Metallica Fan yeah here okay. Did you play Metallica at your wedding. Yes I did. I hired violin players and cello players for the wedding. You know to play the songs when you're walking down the aisle and I can't wait. Take me back through the conversation when you sit down with your wife and you say so. I'm thinking I got this great idea. Well Metallica well. My wife is pretty cool <hes> for starters but the other side of it like I had heard a violin cello string version of nothing else matters and it's beautiful like it is gorgeous like Google it at home you know I it's beautiful so I hired these violent players a and cellist and I said could you could you convert this too violent shallow and play that when I walked down the aisle and they said sure of course and so we're walking down the aisle and my mom turns to me and she's like my gosh this song as beautiful yeah. I said it's METALLICA MOM and my my buddy Patrick from college is like giving me the metal born as I'm walking down the aisle. You know it was great. My lawyer was like nodding his head like but it sounds like this beautiful piece of classical music when you convert it and I think there was like a Swedish house mafia song that we played we were walking down off the al-Tairi. So can you afford to let yourself go like your body. What does that mean? I mean why I'm an actor so every role is in like you know. It isn't a giant supernatural powered where wolf no but I'm a movie role but let's say you just said you know working out or going to let myself go a little bit here. Well like I mean I just ate my way through Italy. Let's like are going now. You and me and we'll take our shirts off. Let's just let me see if you let yourself go. I mean also there's the thing is I would me. My body wants to be skinny. I was a super skinny kid had grown up like I was a kid in ninth. Grade like led the League in points rebounds. I thought my end of the year review is going to be spotless. What could they say and they said you need to gain upper body strength too skinny that was their comment and at that the time in ninth grade I couldn't do one pull up couldn't do one dip and we had to do tests like football everybody to line up on either side of a barn? It's like go as many as you can. I couldn't get one like it wasn't even like I was in the middle and I was a captain of the team I I didn't get like a ton or even like mid range zero weakest dude on the team. It pissed me off so badly that embarrassment and the shame that I spent the next I don't know twenty on even years making sure that I would never have that kind of embarrassment again. You know which is why I wrote a book about Bodybuilding Simon and Schuster approached me like we want you to write the follow up to like Arnold's encyclopedia bodybuilding and I was actually shooting a movie with Arnold at time and Arnold like whatever you need let me know I'll I'll help you never wear whatever way you want you take Arnold. Do I think I could take arnold yeah like now yeah well. Why why would I WANNA do that? We like to ask these questions. He's my buddy man like I mean you could you talking like Conan. The Barbarian Arnold Arnold now well current. I'm GONNA guess you can't right but if I said you at your best against Conan the barbarian picture the Click Bait Headlines Right now depending on my answer I mean it's great publicity for the movie coming up. I I mean bottom of the ninth this to be a this'll be an interesting simulator like me at the height of like true blood ooh shape. I was also boxing at the time like a lot. Okay versus Arnold Conan the barbarian. This'll be interesting interesting. You're in the octagon. I got the reach. Only one guy gets out when one gets out Conan or where Wolf Yeah. Is there a madden we can tell madden simulator what about Conan O'Brien instead of Conan the barbarian could you take Conan who's wiry a wiry smart yeah he could outsmart you sweet sign yes but I you know I'm never on these lists but I always wonder when they say the hottest bachelor alive. Like how many mirrors do you guys have in your house. You guys constantly get yourself. You go back to that so as soon as that happened happened the bachelor of the year. Whatever was someone said to me? I think it was Mario Lopez. He was like that's not GonNa last long so watch. It's not GonNa last long whatever you know and sure enough fly out of the game title vacate or not. You're not on the list anymore. Now man that was it was very short lived once you get that title angle last long but if you're that good looking do you look at all the time or do do not look in the mirror. I don't care like a typical guy if I can't get out of house and less than thirty seconds I'm doing something wrong. You know I should be ashamed of myself typical guys over there Joe. You're not a typical dog about. I'm just trying to get out of the House man and I'm just like I'm not thinking about all that unless like GonNa talk show which is somebody else's job like okay. You can put your headphones on. Put Mile Federal. Okay we got here we go here. We go the arrogant where we are in this music from your wedding. Yeah exactly this is what I walked down the aisle to. You're starting to tear up. It's amazing. There's nothing else matters right yeah nothing. Why didn't you get Metallica Aleka Planet we wanted to what did they say? The wedding is for her. The marriages for you both yeah my wife Wanted Pitt Bull. We got pedal. Okay it Voelpel your wedding. Yes Holy Yeah came out with the backup dancers and everything worldwide but doesn't pit bull only have one move Paulie. He just does that right. No no I was I was like I don't WanNa put you on the show. Yeah I know pit bull does that right you just open bar and pit bull but open bar Metallica aw that's different. Oh man intended anniversary. What would that have cost you with Talca? That's a good question. I don't know I mean this is like with me. Campaigning outside law Washer cars shows out nine again. Please let me and I'll write the movie is bottom of the ninth and it hits theaters tomorrow. It's great to see you. Thanks for coming in good luck with your steelers. Thank you for this year you should be. There's a different vibe at Ryan's wedding. It was a different vibe. It was like shaking a tree in the dead leaves coming off. How many steelers were there? Everybody everybody yeah. Everybody old new yeah how bad a dancer was Ben Rothlisberger. I don't think bed dance Antonio Brown show no no no did levy on bell show no no man no longer steelers for the team team like guys who want to be there and win a championship for Pittsburgh. Don't like those guys who WanNa play winters. I thoroughly there. During the Commercial Break Joan I will take off our shirts so you'd be able to like Jesse the body versus man down. Brother if if tatum came in would it be on like. Would you guys channing tatum like what would happen if he came in. We just like laugh. We'd see each other from across the room and just laugh laugh historic laughter that can only come from human and spent time in thongs together. You understand the bonding that happens when you do that. When's the last time he was a thong was last time I had a thong on yeah my finale routine and magic my accent and that'll be the last time times ever on never on no man that was that was a Gig Gig? I feel awkward because resigned Thong on last night. I was GonNa just took the quick. Yeah all right got it flaunt it. Hey Man I mean it's actually very free live brother good luck with the movie Joe. Thanks very well. Take a break here. We'll come back. I think the Dan Patrick show up to this this summer. There's only one trusted place that lets you get in on all your favorite sports betting action that online dot A._G.. 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Is Burrow NFL Ready?

First Draft

47:46 min | 1 year ago

Is Burrow NFL Ready?

"Welcome to first draft. I'm Chris Brow with Todd. mcshay and Mel Kiper the experts. I'm simply air traffic control guys. It's our I m- mm I pod. Excuse me after the college football season is officially over and we already have talked to the number one pick has already settled. I can't believe it if you would've told me this going into the season. I think we'd be talking about Obama quarterback not an Lsu quarterback but LSU has a quarterback and they have a trophy. Todd you were there. I wanted to set up this show as the five biggest questions I have as we enter draft season officially number number one was simply the Joe. Borough lock it up. If he hadn't already sure looked like it. I mean you were there. You were watching it up. Close what did you see E and is the answer that question. Yes I think the answer is yes but that doesn't mean everyone's answers. Yes and that's you know talking to scouts and in a couple of general managers that were there and that I've seen on the road during during bowl season. They're they're always differing opinions opinions on on players but to me like how do you not take them number one. He's the most poise quarterback I've seen in years. He's had you know it's one of the biggest jumps from year one to year to that that I've ever seen Malcolm can get into it. But but the way he's playing right now is just at a different level he's playing an NFL game mentally in at the college level. And I think he's ready to to translate to the NFL game. And I think he's he's ready to start right away so he may not be you know he may not be Tom Brady. He may not be drew brees and he doesn't have an elite arm but he's mobile. Oh He's exceptional in the pocket. He's so smart. He has a weird confidence that it's hard to grasp unless you spend enough time around him and everyone around them loves them and he wants he was allowed to just kind of go out and play the game and start slinging it. He finally finally was the Joe. Brady that are Joe Borough. I should say undertow slid everyone knew that he was going to be ev. Even I talked to Urban Meyer. And he's got so many talented guys. This this V quarterback on my on my depth chart is there's there's something about him and it finally came out this year. What do you think? Now everything is I would agree with that. We were won't with. Mike Tannenbaum Hanan bomb. I was on Monday todd one. NFL Live prior to the game and We were talking about and borough and I said boroughs had a better year than Trevor Lawrence. Did a borough if these look at Lawrence yes lawrence's the ordain one he. He's the one that's going to be the number one pick next year. Everybody say have been number one pick this year or last year. But Joe Borough. You don't want to lessen what he did and how good he can be. And I think what people can't wrap their arms around is that he went from this off the radar guy that fifth to seventh round undrafted free agent guy to the number one. Pick overall just like when peyton manning was doing was a number-one pick and he's in the NFL setting records and Tom. Brady's when wants to win the super bowl and everybody's trying to say well still better than Brady. Nobody could ever give Brady the credit because he's a sixth round pick back. Nobody thought much album coming in. It doesn't matter once you're great care the right why does now. Why do we do that? I think it's just mental. You get into this. You can't ever just give the Guy Credit. Say Forget well how. How was it the Brady everybody hated Brady? How can how was it? The Patriots Antwan Harris a corner from Virginia sixth-round Trat over him. How good can be when everybody in the League hated this guy? They just can't figure it out and they don't WanNa give the couldn't even even like Tyler Marie. Well you know one wanted to give it to kyle or no one wanted to give it to Carson Wentz like every year. I feel like we're having the same conversation if they're good they're good right right. Yeah and this is even more. Todd I think and that's why I was on Monday. Almost feel like you have to defend borough. It's the first unbear- question does Lawrence hasn't been put under the microscope. Bien Anyway He's twenty years of age boroughs twenty-three he's a fifth year senior Trevor's a sophomore. So unfair to try to do that anyway. And if you say that all oh I would say on grade Lawrence will be expected to maybe be a little better than Burbot doesn't mean he will be in this whole thing that I got into and I think Mike Potanin bound brook. Well you know. He's I don't know if he can survive sixteen games with frame and he doesn't have the great arm and he doesn't do this one. Hey drew brees have a great arm coming out to Tom. Brady great arm coming coming out to Joe Montana. John I just have a great arm. Did any of these guys. The Mel three three games standing within fifteen of him water. There isn't a tougher. Sob In college football than jober. I'm convinced that he is the toughest dude I've watched at that position in a long time doesn't mean he's going to stay healthy but if you look at the history of it the guys who get injured in college get injured in the NFL and the guys who stayed healthy in college at the quarterback position typically stay healthy in the NFL and he just keeps popping up from one big hit after another time. Eli Manning half any Super Frame Eli. Manning has been incredibly durable quarterback at people wondered about that with him a Payton's a gifted talent but he was he had a great career career. So this notion you've got to have off the charts physical ability to be a great quarterback has been proven wrong time and time again. That's why because of the criticism that people are bringing it up with Utah about borough. They brought up about Brady brought up at breeze. Montana United States. All of them were about the same. That's why they were all drafted later and they really should have an in boroughs case. He's not talking to be drafted later in these should be. He's GonNa drafted number one but there will be those people's ain't one year wonder he had the frame for Sixteen Games doesn't lead arm strength but to just see either way he slipped and slide and dipped in the pocket. You see his instincts. You mentioned his competitiveness off the charts. He's GonNa come into the as with a chip because nobody wanted them coming out of high school. Aw nobody they didn't want him in Ohio State. Nobody else wanted me goes to Lsu. So he'll always probably ride the ship along way but I just think because he was so off the charts in terms of great. People just can't believe he deserves to be the number one pick in the draft. Todd I can just talking about borough in the pocket and his escape ability. There's something I just want a nerd out on a little bit here early in this process. I'm somewhat obsessed with Joe Borough as a college player. He his willingness to climb he you we talked about. This guy does not have a huge arm but he consistently moves up in the pocket he he consistently climbs through pressure in invariably that can cut ten fifteen yards off a throw as opposed to backpedaling. I know I think a prospect Derek Carr in your eagles coming into the draft where he retreated from pressure and it was honest. It was negatively. Borough has this weird knack of knowing that the best way to shorten a throw around pressure is to get for. Its something like Aaron Rodgers. Learned later in his his twenties and Berl has it. Now what is that. Aaron Rodgers is is the perfect example. Drew brees is a little drew. BREES is more more to a tongue of aloe and turn the quick twitch and just touched going through progressions right brady just gets the ball out quickly. Aaron Erin when you if you really sit there and study Aaron Rodgers tape what he does best. And you're exactly right. He didn't do it in college as much as he he has learned to do in the. NFL is his eyes and feet are tied together and he feels pressure but never looks at pressure. That's that's again. That's a really hard thing to do that. Anyone who's ever stood in that pocket it has felt the three hundred ten pounders coming coming at you to fifty off the edge coming at you with a four four speed and just kind of hangs in there and is capable of doing that. It's very rare you see it in the NFL. The few guys. You don't see it in college very often. But that's what that's what borough has and every time I'm watching watching him on tape and then more I'm always more impressed live because you see how big the dudes are you know. You see how they're bearing down on outside pressure. Climb the ladder climb up in the pocket inside pressure slide but always keep your eyes down the field and then the thing that he does is he's going to wait until the last possible second but then he'll take off and go like and he can still run. That's the other thing that no one wants to give them a lot of credit for. He's pretty mobile. He's picked up a lot of big first downs. Ashir by by taking off and running. And that's it's not a big part of his game but he's capable of doing it and he never it's the very break the glass pull the emergency and if we have have to do it I'll do it but he's going to wait in that pocket as long as you possibly can. And he never looks at the pass rusher he just feels it. And you can't coach folks that you can't teach it it's about being around the game your whole life and just knowing it and stick to. He is in a tremendously instinctive quarterback and he sees the field so well and that play before the half when he ran. They said he can't run. I have no time outs. He got out of bounds and he is so smart with what he's doing on the field he understands situations he understands at the time of a game and what needs to be done that hit the skull Sqi. He delivered to him. At the one that touchdown pass the moss. At the end of the half. He was stung. He came off the fields. And don't touch me. I can't really talk. Because he missed. He was coming off like hey and he rode. The bike became early and rode. The bite came out in the second half played through it. They got it before. Yeah let's four halftime ended so to me. There's not people are going to always always be critical of something by again. Where he was last year he wasn't like he was horrible? He had sixteen touchdowns five picks the receivers dropped balls. Now you come in with a different system and everybody's better and he's off the charts seventy one percent or better every regular season game against sixteenth ranked in the top ten at the time. Very few cupcakes again. And I think when you look at borough and you figure okay everybody had the number one guy to is not. Now it's borough there's always always gonna be people wondering as I said. They wondered about Tom Brady till they couldn't wonder anymore. They wondered about brees well. They couldn't wonder anymore. They WanNa they always do. They wonder about these guys. Wants wants her in the league because they weren't highly regarded coming in until they just can't they gotta give it up at some point they gotta get give it up and at some point maybe with Bro again. He's not in the NFL yet but and people can still question because you won't know until he's in the league but I would say what would you say ninety five percent chance that goes number one to the bengals. Yeah and to your point. I thought it to. It's just human nature. I thought it until probably mid DOC Tober and I was like all right. He belongs up there and just kept climbing and climbing climbing the as you would call all the big board my top thirty two whatever you WANNA call it and I finally was like you know what. He's just better than everyone else. He's better than every other quarterback. I've watched us here. He was when tours healthy borough was better if to was healthy than we would have a great discussion. It would be you know it would be a great debate. But it doesn't mean he's you better pro but he had a better season this year and you said better than he was better than Trevor Lawrence. That's why that question about Lawrence. Was I think unfair. And just something should even been asked because first of all he's not draft eligible but secondly he had a better year. Trevor of the first seven games with fourteen touchdowns eight interceptions eight interceptions in seven games against mostly kings. Okay mostly cupcakes all cupcakes. And he was at fifty five fifty six percent in three games. Okay you look at it from start and he plays poorly. The the other night did not have a good game. He looked like he was just just something I look in his eyes and see he was just overmatched. You didn't have all those overthrows. He just just getting it done but I think the the fact that a matter is borough was better than Lawrence this year. That means it'll be better now. It doesn't mean that Lawrence won't be the number one pick next year and the mini shouldn't be the number one pick based on how he played in that game but the fact of the matter is borough won the Heisman for a reason to do what he did in the final four knowing. He had the heisman and had the pressure pressure they were. They were like the Ravens. They were super bowl. Bust where the Ravens I thought okay and ended up fortunately didn't get it done. LSU Was Super Bowl or bust was national championship chipper. Bust right and boy. Everything they accomplish. Borough Coppers coach Oh was down the drain. They was all forgotten and it was all a waste of time. If if you didn't win it all that's that's intense pressure on Joe Borough then to had the injury then to have them cut it to twenty twenty-five and have all the momentum yet you got another answer when you know you were hurting and not one hundred percent you went out there and did it tied. I think that was the and nobody else had done it number one coming in so Lsu did it Clemson Thompson had the chip. They were the underdogs defending national title yet. They had no answer in that game for Jonesboro guys. I just want to put a cap on the bureau section here and I point this out so joe borough already last year had had a pretty big or going into this year had a pretty big fan base in Ohio. A lot of people saw. Hey you know we're we're not mad at you for transfer and you couldn't beat out Wayne Haskins. It's no big deal. A lot of Ohio state fans rooting for him. He's from about an hour. What an hour and a half away from cincy and and I check after the game I sent a note to our Cincinnati bengals reporter Ben baby and I just said you mean this is done now right and he said I actually you think bengals fans would riot if they didn't take him so there's this whole added dynamic it was the La chargers or the New York giants of the Detroit? Lions the Atlanta Falcons Calkins and they were at number one and they needed a quarterback. It would be obvious that it's Joe Borough and then you factor in all those little other added elements of you have a fan base. That already has an affection for this player. See Mike Brown. I'd like to see go the other way on this guys. I wanted to jump just just really quickly in a number two because it's a different dynamic and not talk about a prospect here but a huge aspect to this draft class are names like this Marcus Mariota Teddy Bridgewater. Tom Brady obviously Andy. Dalton is there one mel. I'll let you take. I just WanNa there one that sticks out where you think. I don't know maybe this team won't draft a quarterback because they'll bring in one of those guys. I'll throw a one. I just thought of just because we all remember this from working with John on the draft is Mario to the type of player that John Might Bring into you know give a little push to his His Co. incumbent starter yeah. Mary like Mario to coming in You know how he feels now. I don't know I will say this in your your opinion Miami at five to if you felt like you needed to have the number one pick and you didn't do which was a joke anyway but at five take two this. This is ironic because Miami past breeze. Who was nick? Sabin being the head coach go for culpepper because the breezes injury now you're sitting there with savings quarterback into the two who has significant injury three lower extremity injuries with his hip that we won't know about necessarily what's going to happen there in the coming months. Hopefully you get more answers but will say Does Miami take him with the chargers new at six today. Take Justin. Herbert who is not perfect by any stretch. Even though physically athletically intelligence wise he has all all but two they take him as the parent the rivers and move forward there. I think those are the teams at that point that you would think caroline all this talk about. Borough is ridiculous Bliss GonNa take too much one of the not to get ahead of them but Carolina could be but in terms of those veterans. Everybody everybody's going to be looking for the Tannahill Mario to situation situation with Mario to somebody else like with trubisky in Chicago Kit Dalton there so if trubisky becomes Mariota Dalton could be tannahill. That's what everybody's everybody's GonNa try to copy that whole formula moving forward with those teams but I I don't see Miami being impacted by it or the chargers tied unless you say it's Brady but braves playing a few more years so he could still go. Herbert even Brady. You're rivers. That would impact that at all but I do believe that too and Herbert at five and six would make some sense. Yeah I meant meant I mean I probably because I just flew into in the Boston and the only thing you can hear around here is Tom. There are three options. He's back in New England. He's going to the chargers or he's retiring. I mean that's basically and it Kinda starts to a trickle down effect for for the rest of these guys. And what's going to happen with these these quarterbacks but since we've seen so many let's say big names it's not necessarily this high quality because you don't have you know with with Brady. The and some of the other veterans. You don't have a lot of years left and you know it but how many big names are in free agency and have not been wrapped up and locked up in in terms of their future and by general managers and and kind of just questioning. How long can they actually go? Because it's a new phase. We we've never seen quarterbacks last this long and play it this high of a level and so I think everyone is looking around the league and saying I don't know when one is he done and Brady looked like he was close to done this year and compared to his exceptional level that he's been for almost twenty years right and so i. I think that I think everyone's just trying to figure it all out but I think Brady is going to be one of the first Domino's in terms of how how Oh everything falls. Yeah he has to essentially make his plan so everybody else can make their plans to get around it. Yeah it's GonNa be really interesting you know one of the things. I brought up melania talking to Meena was how the thing with Gruden in kind of fascinates me if he might not necessarily draft a quarterback. Maybe he'd take one late but look for one of these guys on the free agent market thinking about all the hay he made aide with rich Gannon and getting rich Gannon to a level that nobody had ever seen before and I just wonder if he finds some affection for all these this quarterbacks that he's been staring at as draft analyst and as an NFL N. A.. Over the last few years it's going to be kind of a fascinating process todd on I'll let you take this third question. The questions that are gonNA find draft season. I'm going to go back to that real quickly. I think Gruden's done with Derek Carr. Wow Oh wow we got a big one. Yeah I think he's done I just I don't think you don't think he buys the see. I think I think I think most other coaches would really like to have Derek Carr. I think Jon GRUDEN would've liked to have somebody else's my guess and Mel noses basing that off of knowing John but not I have not talked to him about it so but I just. I don't think that the right marriage together since you just don't know where you improve improve it with a lateral move move. Everybody thought we'll bring Tannahill with Mario. Well you know. He's there but when he came in he gave him a lift. And what have you. But I think maybe that scenario like you mentioned Morioka goes there to Derrick Derrick struggles. You can go tomorrow. I Dunno high feels about Andy Dalton and guys like that may have a better scenario somewhere else the giraffe if there's GonNa Bring Anybody where they're picking twelve is he gonNa Take Jacob e sin at that point. I think that may be a little early myself. I just look at car or I don't know if you unless you get better and let's face it. That offensive skill positions around car gotta get better to Wyler made. A lot of catches Williams has got to be healthy. The entire a year Renfro came on okay. They need another weapon in that mix and to help out car. The line got better Jacobs. Obviously he's a good back so everything's thanks Kinda in place there defensively. They made some strides. Got A long way to go You know that whole Josh Allen Clo- and feral thing maybe Allen would've give them better pass rusher crosby was a really a good pick where they got him. We'll see what can do at corner he's made. He seems like he has potentially thought that going into the draft last year. They still hold on defense. But I don't know where do you get better. Yeah I thought last year you know. Hey it's cuyler Murray would have been there. Maybe but he obviously locked into one. John Loves evaluating these quarterbacks. We all know that todd odd. Which one does he like? Who knows I will think the Christmas one about Mari? Yoda that would be the interesting one because like Gannon. He has that mobility. I know going back. John did like Mario coming out. So maybe that would be somebody you bring in you say okay he can be the backup there and if Dr Derek Carr struggles struggles and it's like what's happening with Mario in Tennessee. Ironically maybe Mario to do with what happened to him in Tennessee botanical maybe it flips with that whole all script with Marcus. Mariota guys an interesting thing and I'm going to question number three. We talked about Joe Borough so having the greatest season ever for a college quarterback and I'm damn near lock the number one pick and it's like I look at certain Todd mccheese Rankings means that came out yesterday on. ESPN DOT COM and Joe's number two. Which is a reminder that maybe the best player in the draft and the guy that will hold the number one great? The overall unroll said and done isn't going to be the number one pick and he's there at number two which leads me to ask. Todd is the top two picks locked up. I mean is chase young out of the highest state. Who has maybe a higher grade on your board than a guy like Nick Bosa who just dominated this year as a rookie? Is he for sure number two or is that a free trade up spot. Could to come into play like what's going to happen there. I'll be shocked if not the number number two overall pick. There are some people who think I think he should be the number one overall. Pick and throw out the quarterback. I don't buy that Nell but I think with chase. Listen the boatswain's this to me. Were two of the best defensive linemen that I've ever evaluated the grades back it up. I remember them running poorly in some people saying you can't be an edge rusher. You can't be you can't be an elite player in the NFL. If you run a four eight six four seven nine or whatever the numbers were but it on tape they were just so special now chases not there yet. He's not he's not as developed as the bosses but he's more athletic and he's got some of the same traits and what I love about him he just he plays his tail off every single play. And you don't don't get many guys who are that talented. And then they played that hard down in and down out and I know there are some moments where you'd like to see him have a little but more production. I guess and bigger games but I go back and look at his numbers and they stack up with with all the elite defensive line than we've ever had those those top grades on and again the boat does were were more. NFL Ready Right now. This guy's more talented and I think the potentials there if he continues to develop two things on that I remember. I was leaving the combine and I hear this mallows John Boese. He was sitting at the bar and he was waiting at the airport for his flight with his wife. and run it over at Nick so ticked off. He really wanted to run again. But I thought now because at forty times didn't feel comfortable with that you didn't like it. He hated the fact. Act so again competitiveness. That whole forty time that it really matter going back to John and Joey no it did not matter. You'll go back to forty times. We were ultimate Devon and single terry great backgrounds. Four six six. Oh my gosh. What happened with that and he ends up having a great rookie year with the buffalo bills and in one of the best backs in that draft? So you got to be careful with that. But I think to the point about AH young when young didn't dominate and have to three sacks and those final few games against that better on the big stage games I I think it lead easier for Cincinnati. I I think that took pressure off. Cincinnati because the bengals. How do you go on out and wreaked havoc and been out there? Second Lawrence and second quarterback in Michigan Game Patterson all of a sudden. It's like how can you not take this guy. He's a game record the fact that he was quiet in those couple games. I made it easier for the bengals reconcile and not have all the people saying what are you doing so I think that helped the bengals and obviously allows them to be. No I think Discussion about it. And all of sudden there's the redskins with chase young nice to get the best player with the second pick if you believe. Young is the best player in the draft. Not a bad thing though. Though critique of borough their grades are very similar but I think I think the way that young finished made it a little easier for the bengals but then let's not forget and I understand. He did not have big numbers against Clemson. Basically but you go back. And he didn't play two games. He was suspended for the two games right and he still wound up. If you go back and look twenty one tackles for loss in sixteen and a half sacks six four fumbles and three broken passes. How do you put a bigger numbers in a what is it a twelve game span twelve or thirteen game span and by the way top and those two games he missed? I think ruckers was one of them. He he would've added right. It would have been the quarterback days. Yeah it's amazing to Mel's point and honestly talking. NFL Scouts that that's the one. Why didn't you play that? Well in in that one game against Clemson but yeah I mean he would have had probably four sacks five Zack's against Wisconsin and Maryland and rutgers those two games yet I think too we're talking about the first two picks are kind of locked in I. I think it gets really interesting at four. I think that was that was next question. Where's the move spot? I think four Chris and todd is really really a fascinating with gentlemen loving the big guys. The linemen and knowing the offensive line has to get better and knowing your franchise quarterback needs. Help the the thing. Is You take an Andrew Thomas there from Georgia or to you. Take Isaiah Simmons knowing you need linebacker open. Simmons is perfect for today's NFL with his versatility. The maybe reach a little bit for Andrew. Thomas do you take Isaiah Simmons who may have the higher grade. I think we're gentleman does at four. This is you talk about that trickle down the domino effect that pick will impact a lot. Well because you know setting up this board a little bit here by the way low key the number three spot with the lions is also a possible trade spot. If they're not in love with Okuda if they're not in love with Simmons if they've seen this guy saying somebody so you know it's funny if somebody blows you away because they wanna get Herbert or they wanNA guarantee to get to three or four. I've been writing the same two notes notes to myself for. I don't know it feels like ten twelve years. The giants don't take linebackers in the first round. What Carl Banks Right Right Carl banks and then the lions don't take cornerbacks in the first Terry Fair Ninety Eight? I was still in college right. University of Terry Fair You're Carl Banks. We got the giants. The Best Player on the board is probably going to be Isaiah Simmons and they could easily take him and and I think the Lions Should Take Okuda. So it's GonNa be fun to watch how it all plays out but those are the two guys that to me the best. They're the best players on the board. And and if they if those teams don't freight out or move around. Who else are you GONNA go? Thomas is a really good player milk. He's not he's I'm not Okuda and he's he's not Isaiah Simmons. Those two guys are at a different level in my opinion and then the rest of the draft kind of falls is in behind that with like Jerry Judy and and the wide receivers and some of the other Derrick Brown the defensive tackle from Auburn but I just Andrew. Thomas is a really good player. He's not top five in my opinion. Yes I think that's where we say it would be a reached as cattleman do that and pass say on Simmons who would make a lot of sense with Okuda if you think you can be. Gilmore Davis White. That kind of player. Obviously Patricia would go with Okuda but put him opposite sleigh and then you got something something going there at defense has to get better so I think it would be the route to go and you mentioned trading up. You'RE GONNA trade up to get a quarterback who's got the injury to it is a Herbert Scott question marks. I don't know if that's it's going to happen. I don't think so. I think it makes us fall. Where Borough Young Okuda Simmons tour? That's your top five. And if you WANNA put Herbert in at six. Maybe I don't know how easy Derrick Brown maybe seven the Carolina got judy lamb with Arizona. Then Andrew Thomas. Is there for Jacksonville at nine with worse from Iowa or wills from Alabama ten for Cleveland. One of those receivers have eleven for the jets. Todd I mel just turning away. We have to fly out to Vegas. This is do it from the studios. Looks too easy thought. Hey Hey todd. Great question in there would Dave gettleman reach. You can go ahead and answer I I. I've never spoken on that. I've never I've never never come up. I mean please come on guys I we have a pile on about about thirty on backing off of it and Malka saying what I love about Mel is he. He looks at last He. He looks at last year and get Omens decision in the first round is a win and I look at it as a complete loss and I don't know where the disconnect is but we have four four months to work it out quarterback next question the guys one last question here and it kind of services senior bowl weekend. We'll hit the mail bag in a second but just one last question here on questions that are going to define this draft process. This is the year of the wide receiver. We have Jerry. Judy really high is this. Is this another year. Where at the end we're talking about a decay metcalf? We're talking about a Michael Thomas who's obviously reached another. I love about what my point is. It's so deep that we're talking about guys that winning the second and third round and we're like man this is a loaded class again Just seems that way I mean what do you think because there could be six or seven in round one but that just means there's probably a few more good ones ends in round two. I'll give todd. WHO's Todd's guy it seems to be is a guy that we'll get to out west but I W- Michael Pittman Junior in the second round because says if he doesn't have the time has the frame has the the the? Obviously you talk about the bloodlines. You think about the production. I think Michael Pittman in junior. USC En route to the guy. I think explosiveness and versatility K.. J. Kamler from Penn State. We'll see how he tasks but he's the guy is Mr sure excitement so I would say if you're looking for guys that haven't maybe there's disgust as much as some of the top guys. I'd go handler. I'd go Michael Pittman Junior and I'll leave your guy todd to you got guys who is he talking about. I have no idea you're talking about but all right right. He knows better than you know yourself. Isn't that nice to have you know I. I knew it was going in and you're welcome every once in a while. I throw a little bit of a bone Aw Judy Lamb Henry. Rugs Justin Jefferson t higgins. Chenault a euch. I mean handlers handlers mode just mentioned and that's People's Jones done people Jones if he had a quarterback who consistently throwing the ball of Michigan Michael Pittman Pittman is such a great dude in the hardworking player. And I bet you he's GonNa be a possession receiver in the NFL contested catches and. He's going to be productive Dr for ten twelve years and and then we're we like nine. No that's ten Jalen Raider from TCU K J Hill from Ohio from Ohio state. I mean the list goes on and on and on so it is a loaded class of sleepers. Okay Okay Look at you mel. You're already getting to near tape. I like it like Lynn boat running back to really good to the Andrea Swift. Oh go ahead ahead Clyde Edwards he later. I thought it was like my daughter Claire a year. It exactly exactly cam acres so underrated travis. How hard does he run? So right there at Maryland. Yeah yes injured. I just added him. I didn't I didn't realize he was coming out early. I just added him. I got him in the third round late ground. Want another one other thing. That's kind of crazy. Just coming out of the National Championship. Game is if super productive. Sophomore wide receivers were allowed in. I I mean Jimmy Jason in this draft buddy could be. I mean Ohio State got him. USC has them. There's another one in Alabama. Emma I mean I'm Gonna I'M GONNA get into all these names. We're talking about guys Saturday. Like first round type pedigree. That aren't in this draft is going to be loaded up again next year. It's remarkable yeah. Yeah I think they've got a good thing there with devante Smith going back and I thought he was going to come out. I like Devante Smith. He's one backed Alabama which surprised me a little bit that he didn't come out. 'cause I would've probably had him ahead henry rugs the third maybe going into this draft but I liked the Smith and Jalen Waddell. You're right he they. They're going to have weapons disposal there. Ross going back to Clemson Clemson but this whole notion that that Lsu next year is going to be as good or keep this role. It's GONNA be tough. I mean they're going to lose. They're losing a lot of good players on on really on both sides the ball and it's GonNa be interesting to see how Lsu is actually how that offense is brady moving on so but we'll get. That's the story for another day in terms of this draft todd in terms of the running backs and you mentioned some of those names and we'll get another position in a minute but you think about the fumbling issue and the lack of great hands. and You I think I'd go to Jonathan Taylor fast. He's a great pure running back. The fumbles the lack of great natural pass catching ability and we we can go to dobbins a little bit there. He's not you got a couple of drops in that final in the playoff game. You also had some fumbling issues. And he's a fierce runner. How do we reconcile in today's NFL? Dobbins Robinson Taylor I think it starts with the Andrea Swift. I think he's he's the right of the group right written. I think man. What dolphins did this year was fun to watch? Jonathan Taylor is one of the highest character later. Tough guys you'll ever be around and he's he's going to make the locker room better he's going to make the organization his Asian better. He's going to set a standard. That probably doesn't exist wherever he he was drafted. It might take a year. Might take two years. But he's going the be the standard bearer of the of that organization. So you want that quarterback you don't care as much running back and pass asked Russia or but Jonathan Taylor has got something special about him. I would go swift Dobbins Taylor and then Clyde Edwards Allaire is. He's mini Em. Well you know. That's that's a good. He's low center of gravity totally agree and there's something about him backwards. Yep Yeah and he just. He runs so hard he he figures out a way to make his own yards. Whether it's by making guys is miss or or driving his legs so I I love all four of those back after that. There's a bunch of a lot of really good backs. Travesty Tiana's I mentioned Jay Harris Keyshawn von. Aj Dylan from Boston College. ZAC MOSS FROM UTAH McFarland. You mentioned a little Michel appear from from Florida. I mean there's a lot of good morning nausea going back. Todd did he make it official traveling back. I think I had heard. Tasha Harris may be going by is Christian. Get off on that. We can check that she harris. I will check that out for you guys. We a ton of mail came flooding in. We got about six seven eight minutes here left So let's let's get to some of it. WE CAN T it up. 'CAUSE TODD YOU'LL BE IN MOBILE MEL you'll be watching. I WANNA get a few of the senior questions in there. I thought Nagy was going to get you to mobile this year. Eight an hour coming out this week. This Juniors Haji the list of juniors this underclass I just heard I just heard your excuse. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA be. I got all these guy I gotta go back. There's a couple of guys and where we get three guys and I'm thinking about for the first round that there is a linebacker coming out of Oklahoma about any Kenneth Murray number nine new is a heck of a player. I I'm thinking about making them a very high first round pick thirty. Yeah I'M GONNA be higher than that I think he's GonNa go mid first round so I'm Gonna I'm a Kenneth Murray Guy I think he's GonNa test off the charts. He does eight over real well but he is so fast in his. He's the only dude on that defense. Chisel replace Yeah I mean he's all out and I think Xavier mckinney from Alabama I'm trying to find a spot but no let's move on. That's just for me. That's what I'm doing but in terms of The underclassmen list. Yeah let's let's jump to that we have We have some questions. Aj Indovina tweets in at Hashtag first draft. who a few guys that? You're most interested in scene gene and mobile. Todd I'll let you thi this one a good question. I WanNa see I I guess. Some of the receivers that aren't underclassmen golden liberty. Yeah yeah I'd yeah I mean yeah I'm interested. I WANNA see Justin Herbert Compete is he. He's saying that he's going to come and compete and play for quarterback. I would love to see him. Come out and just ball out all week. He's got tools but something's been missing. We've talked talked about it a lot. We we have a few months to get into it but I want to see him. Go be the Alpha dog dare in mobile and put on a show because if you're one of the elite players in the draft you're GonNa go to that game and you're going to stand out as one of the top six or seven players at the senior bowl and that's how it always which goes doesn't matter what position and Herbert needs that. In my opinion I got a great question for you because I just love how our listeners ours are so draft nerdy so early on and this is this is right in your wheelhouse Mike. Shinoda ask. WHO's the best blitzing Middle Linebacker in this draft? Well I think the guy that you can move around I think in terms of blitzing middle linebacker first of all. There's not this is not a really good year overall. I think when you look at guys would I like like Logan Wilson at Wyoming Troy Diet Oregon in the Kennedys. Not The true Mike Mandate so these guys are are fluid and they move around Jordan Brooks Texas Tech Kamal Martin at Minnesota I think has some versatility there Wilson Briscoe and back Caja Brit Auburn going. Back Dylan Moses Alabama going back already mentioned Kenneth Murray but I'd say Troy Die Oregon Maliki Harrison Ohio state state would be another guy. Kamal Martin Minnesota Barnes. He's inside outside. He's we're getting more outside but he's a guy can get after the quarterback there I think from an edge standpoint. Todd this guy is going to be at the senior bowl. Lewis from Alabama is explosive and came back really injury throw the he's Kinda guy that could soar up with Yoga. Guys that could really benefit from those pass rush drills and getting after the quarterback Lewis from Alabama. Has that explosives coming from the outside. Here's one and it's an in Lewis's Lewis more athletic and has more upside anfernee Jennings played his. You know what off this year and showed up in big games and he's not nearly as athletic as as throat Lewis's and I think we're going to go earlier but there's something about Jennings which every time you put on on. The table is tight. He's not athletic. He just doesn't have the traits but then he winds up two and a half sacks at the end of the game and four four tackles for awesome. Whatever it is? I just wanted to get you guys in the practice of answering this because it's coming six thousand times already. Who are the browns? Who's going to be there? AIRFREIGHT TACKLE FOR THE CLEVELAND BROWNS AT number ten. I don't know if they're gonNA take tackle who knows that. They have Trent Williams a tackle by the time the draft starts. My point is is that people are just obsessed with the fact that Greg Robinson was there a lot and it didn't go. Well Mel who these guys in play at ten well author right tackles and Andrew. Thomas is either at ten todd. I don't think he will be. I could see Jacksonville. Andrew Thomas were there you could probably think it would be a good that spot if you're gonNA mock drills is the only other will he's a right tackle Worse from Iowa played a little left tackle when Jackson was hurt held his own there. But he's a right tackle. So I'd say worse or wills if you're looking for that right tackle at that point if Andrew Thomas left tackle from Georgia were there. Then I think if he gets past S. Jacksonville because past Arizona if he gets past those teams gets passed the giants at four. Then at ten Cleveland I think would have to look at him. If they didn't add somebody in free agency all right. I'll try to find one more. Make a trade or whatever so yeah I think that would be some of the guys that are going to go early in terms of tackling. Todd is there anybody else Josh. Josh Jones from Huston will be down at the singer Bowl. He will be interesting to watch their Matt. Peer from Connecticut. Another kid will be interesting to keep an eye on. There is a Wilson came up from Georgia. He's he's second round. I was surprised that he charles from issue came out. I thought he needed another year. Trey Adams from Washington. I mean there there are guys in that second third round range but to under the radar the ball to a Ben Barka did a thing on dot com back during the years Under the radar guy from Saint. John's Minnesota Ben Bartsch and also another guy. I did a thing dot dot com during the year. Alex Taylor Todd. South Carolina State will be Mobile Andrew. Thomas from Georgia and jeter acquittals from Alabama the only two that it could comfortably stamp in the first round after that. I think you know second third or fourth round rich by the way the interesting thing about these tackles is how much much movement we've seen in recent years when these guys go and work out and you know I I'll give you an example. I think of a case like Lane Johnson and and Lane Johnson just goes crazy at the combine runs four seven. And you know what it's it's just interesting. How the evaluation process for these guys has changed so much a lot of the because of you the college concepts and offenses in the NFL? But they're just asking different things from these tackles. We've talked about it over the last few years but man that that position has gotten any easier to evaluate. I just drop the MIC. There they agree completes are going to transition to another question now. Marina arena three two guys. That's there's so many questions we're not gonNA be able to get them all. We have gone though about fifty minutes here ballpark Daniel and so I think we'll We'll cut everybody a break. We've gone on their commute and back. But I'm Chris. Brown start talking. philosophically about offensive tackles. You know it's time to call it a day right. That's it for first draft this week. Next week's the big one we've gotTa Outta Kuyper mock draft to evaluate hammer on and for Mel to defend should be a good time. Todd you'll be in mobile but we'll make it work doc. Finally finally you're getting involved in the game. I've tried to watch I. Two days of practice. Rashly come out with this because somebody's vice on pop in mobile it's going to be at fifteen to twenty five range based on what happens down there in those practices now. I walk pushed about April. One I'm moving at the Thursday Thursday and there you go but then we want to nine more like three weeks ago. What less is more who just sees a different cat guys? That's first draft from this week. I'm Chris Smell. It's todd will be back soon enough.

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