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"mortimer adler" Discussed on The Catholic Culture Podcast

The Catholic Culture Podcast

02:36 min | 6 months ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on The Catholic Culture Podcast

"Welcome to the Catholic Culture podcast. I'm Thomas v Muris. This podcast is an offering to the holy family and less importantly production of Catholic culture. Dot Org Everybody in today's episode we're going to pay tribute to Christopher Tolkien. who sadly passed away on January worry sixteenth? Before I get to that I wanted to mention that my friends at online grade books are just about to open up another enrollment period. If you've always wanted to read the great books but didn't get the chance to study them in college or you don't have access to a discussion group near you or you. Just find it a little intimidating to to approach these great works of Western literature and Philosophy and theology. I highly recommend online great books and the reason I say that is because the program Ms specifically designed to work for people who have day jobs and families and can't just spend time reading discussing books all day at it proceeds at a very accessible assessable pace. The program goes through almost the entire list of great books of the Western world made by Mortimer Adler. They send you each book as You reached with your seminar group every month. You'll attend a seminar using video conferencing technology and ill discuss the great books homer Plato. Aristotle Shakespeare Shakespeare Augustine Thomas Aquinas with people from all walks of life from artist to farmers to people with regular office jobs to prison guards. You name it. I found the discussion of the great books with people from such a variety of backgrounds to be very fruitful and on a very basic level just having those seminars every month and I was reading goals which are very accessible again but it keeps you motivated to to keep working at it. If you want to hear more details about the program you can go back to episode twenty seven of the Catholic Culture podcast where I interviewed online. Great books founder. Scott Hamrick or you can go to online great books Dot Com but the point is that there are about to begin a a new enrollment period February fourteenth to February twentieth and the folks over at gp.

"mortimer adler" Discussed on Kickass News

Kickass News

14:32 min | 9 months ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on Kickass News

"I'm Ben. Mathis welcome to kick ASS news since his election to the. US Senate in two thousand six. Ohio's Sherrod Ed. Brown has sat on the Senate floor at a Mahogany desk with proud history and now in a new book he tells the Story of Eight of the senators who were there before him and says that despite their flaws and frequent setbacks each made a decisive contribution to the creation of more just America is book is called Old Desk Eighty eight eight progressive senators who changed America and today Senator Brown joins me on the podcast to talk about it. He reveals how he first learned about the rich history of his desk in the US Senate and how he grappled with some of the contradictions and controversies of the men who came before him including one. Senator who was a former Archaic AKA member turned champion of civil rights. We discussed the singing cowboy. Who became a one term? Senator from Idaho who wants spent a night in bull Connor's jail L. in Alabama and a senator from Wisconsin who was a legendary Penny pincher and never missed a vote. then-senator Brown talks about getting to a more movement Oriented definition of progressivism his belief in the dignity of work. And why he feels. It's a winning message for Democrats Running Against Donald Trump in twenty twenty plus. He opens up about his own decision to stay out of the Democratic presidential primary. Whether or not he might reconsider in light of recent calls for him to jump into the race and how he plans to approach a potential impeachment trial in the US. Senate coming up with Senator Sherrod Brown in just a moment uh-huh Mortimer Adler the sort of intellectual.

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

AP News

02:27 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

"Carson will host the billboard awards which happened may I use? Comedian and political neophyte blood image Alinsky hasn't apparently enormous lead over the incumbent in the campaign for Ukraine's presidency. That's according to a new public opinion poll it funds you'll end ski with sixty one percent support and president petro for Shinko with twenty percent jelenski who has never held political office is well-known for playing the role of Ukraine's president in a TV situation comedy the runoff election between the two we'll be held on April the twentieth. I Charles van Doren who as a dashing young academic rose and fell as a corrupt game show contestant in the nineteen fifties. Inspiring the movie quiz show has died. He was ninety three. Then Dorn died of natural causes Tuesday at a care center for the elderly in Canaan, Connecticut, then Dorn was the central figure in the TV game show scandals of the late fifties. And eventually pleaded guilty to perjury for lying to a grand jury that investigated them he made fourteen electrifying appearances on twenty one in late. Nineteen fifty-six early nineteen fifty seven beating thirteen competitors. And winning a then record one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars because the show producers provided him with the answers following the quiz show scandal. He also wrote and published several books, including the top selling how to read a book along with Mortimer Adler, also the joy of reading and a history of knowledge past present and future Assange arrest. I'm Ed Donahue with an AP news minute. President Trump was asked about the arrest in London of the founder of WikiLeaks Julian Assange about WikiLeaks. It's not my thing. This is what candidate Donald Trump said just before the two thousand sixteen election, I love WikiLeaks Assange face charges in the US related to the publication of tens of thousands of secret. Government documents President Trump was also asked about attorney general William bars claim yesterday, there may have been spying on the Trump campaign was spying in my campaign and his answer was a very accurate one. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer's take on William bar title. He. Holds is far less important than the boss. He serves the governor of Ohio Mike dewine says he will sign a Bill. Imposing one of the nation's toughest abortion restrictions and bans abortions after the first detectable fetal heartbeat which could come as early as five or six weeks into pregnancy before many women even know they're pregnant, I'm Ed Donahue, more news right after this..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

AP News

03:12 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

"Who as a dashing young academic rose and fell as a corrupt game show contestant in the nineteen fifties. Inspiring the movie quiz show has died. He was ninety three. Then Dorn died of natural causes Tuesday at a care center for the elderly in Canaan, Connecticut van Dorn was the central figure in the TV game show scandals of the late fifties. And eventually pleaded guilty to perjury for lying to a grand jury that investigated them he made fourteen electrifying appearances on twenty one in late nineteen fifty six in early nineteen fifty seven beating thirteen competitors and winning then record one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars because the show producers provided him with the answers following the quiz show scandal. He also wrote and published several books, including the top selling how to read a book along with Mortimer Adler, also the joy of reading and a history of knowledge past present and future a foiled terror plot in a Dallas suburb ends with a guilty. Plea. If he's Walter Ratliff reports, it's another case of homegrown terrorism. Suburban Dallas teenager has pleaded guilty to plotting it. His Lomb state group inspired mass shooting at North Texas mall. The eighteen year old was sentenced to two decades in prison for solicitation of capital murder and making terroristic threat, he was arrested last may for plotting to shoot civilians and police and a rampage. Authorities said he was timing to coincide with the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Then high school student had been recruiting others to participate in the shooting. He'll be eligible for parole after serving ten years, I Walter Ratliff the death toll from the cyclone that ripped into southern Africa last month is now above a thousand AP correspondent Charles de LA desma says it leaves a large number of unidentified bodies. Symboblic information minister says the toll in that country has risen to around three forty most because reported just over six hundred deaths the Manali nearly sixty the minister adds that if it's a now confined to recovery of the ceased. And the government will send the logistics zombie to help identify bodies officials say an unknown number of people wash down mountainsides the United Nations describe the mop Cycline as one of the deadliest storms on record in the southern hemisphere. Final death toll is yet to be established on might never be known. I'm charles. Investigating the investigators. I'm Jacky Quin with an AP news minute. Attorney general William Barr told lawmakers today he's begun an investigation into whether proper procedure was followed at the start of the Russia investigation and the 2016 Trump campaign team, I think there's spying did occur. Yes. I think spying did occur. He says he is still working to release much of the special counsel's report within about a week European Union leaders and Britain have agreed to allow another Brexit extension moved to October thirty first giving more time for parliament to find the best possible solution. If you own a Ford f one fifty twenty fifteen through twenty nineteen model, you might be under recall. Our my campaign reports. The automaker says the recalls to fix problems with engine block heater cables that can cause fires dealers are replacing them. Rough driving with heavy snow in south and North Dakota from a spring storm. I'm Jacky Quin. AP digital news back in a moment..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

AP News

01:44 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

"Eight tons of pangolin scales. Over the past week. That's a global record that spurred calls for more protections for the animals, the scales were found in shipping containers and have been linked to four species of pangolins native to Africa officials found a record fourteen point two tonnes of the scales. Hidden among packets of frozen beef on April third five days later, they found fourteen more tons in four hundred seventy four bags in another container. The National Parks Board Singapore customs and the immigration and checkpoints thority said in a statement Wednesday that the cargo was declared as Cassius seats both shipments were en route from Nigeria to Vietnam. The pangolin is said to be the most widely traffic mammal in the world and its scales are in high demand in Asia for use in traditional Chinese medicine. Charles van Doren who as a dashing young academic rose and fell as a corrupt game show contestant in the nineteen fifties. Inspiring the movie quiz show has died. He was ninety three. Then Dorn died of natural causes Tuesday at a care center for the elderly in Canaan, Connecticut van Dorn was the central figure in the TV game show scandals of the late fifties. And eventually pleaded guilty to perjury for lying to a grand jury that investigated them he made fourteen electrifying appearances on twenty one in late nineteen fifty six in early nineteen fifty seven beating thirteen competitors and winning then record one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars because the show producers provided him with the answers following the quiz show scandal. He also wrote and published several books, including the top selling how to read a book along with Mortimer Adler, also the joy of reading and a history of knowledge past present and future. There's a warning for doctors against abruptly taking long term pain patients off of opioid painkillers AP's. Jackie Quinn reports the food and Drug administration says it..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

AP News

03:14 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

"Foiled terror plot in a Dallas suburb ends with a guilty plea. If he's Walter Ratliff reports, it's another case of homegrown terrorism. Suburban Dallas teenager has pleaded guilty to plotting his Lomb state group inspired mass shooting at North Texas mall. The eighteen year old was sentenced to two decades in prison for solicitation of capital murder and making terroristic threat, he was arrested last may for plotting to shoot civilians and police and a rampage. Authorities said he was timing to coincide with the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Then high school student had been recruiting others to participate in the shooting. He'll be eligible for parole after serving ten years. I Walter Ratliff. Charles van Doren who as a dashing young academic rose and fell as a corrupt game show contestant in the nineteen fifties. Inspiring the movie quiz show has died. He was ninety three. Then Doran died of natural causes Tuesday at a care center for the elderly in Canaan, Connecticut, then Dorn was the central figure in the TV game show scandals of the late fifties, and eventually pleaded guilty to perjury for lying to a grand jury that investigated them he made fourteen electrifying appearances on twenty one in late nineteen six in early nineteen fifty seven beating thirteen competitors. And winning a then record one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars because the show producers provided him with the answers following the quiz show scandal. He also wrote and published several books, including the top selling how to read a book along with Mortimer Adler, also the joy of reading and a history of knowledge past present and future. The death toll from the cyclone that ripped into southern Africa last month is now above a thousand AP correspondent Charles de LA desma says it leaves a large number of unidentified. Bodies symbolic was information. This says the toll in that country has visit to around three forty most of them because reported just over six hundred deaths a Manali nearly sixty the minister odds that if it's a now confined to recovery of the ceased, and the government will send the fellowship system is I'm big to help identify. But his officials say an unknown number of people will wash down mountainsides. The United Nations is describe the mach cyclone is one of the deadliest storms on record in the southern hemisphere. Final death toll is yet to be established on might never be known. I'm charles. Desma investigating the investigators. I'm Jacky Quin with an AP news minute. Attorney general William Barr told lawmakers today he's begun an investigation into whether proper procedure was followed at the start of the Russia investigation and the twenty sixteen Trump campaign team, I think there's spying did occur. Yes. I think spying it occur. He says he is still working to release much of the special counsel's report within about a week European Union leaders and Britain have agreed to allow another Brexit extension move to October thirty first giving more time for parliament to find the best possible solution. If you own a Ford f one fifty twenty fifteen through twenty nineteen model, you might be under recall. Our my campaign reports. The automaker says the recalls to fix problems with engine block heater cables that can cause fires dealers are replacing them. Rough driving with heavy snow in south and North Dakota from a spring storm. I'm Jacky Quin. AP digital news back in a moment..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

AP News

02:18 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

"Single item at regular price misrepresenting, the immigration policy that forced migrant kids away from their parents at the border AP Washington. Correspondent saga megani has an AP fact, John I'm the one that stopped what the president stopped or at least suspended were family separations that spiked because of his own zero tolerance policy were all adults caught crossing illegally prosecuted, meaning they were separated from their kids. He's blaming his predecessor for the separations resident Obama had to low. We changed the law, and I think depression, accurately report it, but of course, they won't because it's not true both administrations operated under the same immigration laws. Trump did not achieve any change in the law. He simply reversed his own policy. Saga megani at the White House. Sara Gilbert is leaving the daytime talk show she helped launch she announced Tuesday on CBS the talk that she's decided to exit as a co host because she has a packed work and personal schedule Gilbert who produces and stars on ABC's, the Connor said her life was slightly out of balance. She wasn't spending enough time with her three children. She said lamenting she had yet to make her four year olds baby book, there are also other producing an acting opportunities demanding her attention. She said she will finish out the current and nine season of the talk and plans to return as a guest co host so far no replacements been named another co host Julie Chen left last fall following sexual misconduct allegations against her husband, former CBS chief executive Leslie Moonves, Charles van Doren who as a dashing young academic rose and fell as a corrupt game show contestant in the nineteen fifties. Inspiring the movie quiz show has died. He was ninety three. Then Dorin died of natural causes Tuesday at a care center for the elderly in Canaan, Connecticut van Dorn was the central figure in the TV game show sketch. Handles of the late fifties. And eventually pleaded guilty to perjury for lying to a grand jury that investigated them he made fourteen electrifying appearances on twenty one in late nineteen fifty six in early nineteen fifty seven beating thirteen competitors. And winning a then record one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars because the show producers provided him with the answers following the quiz show scandal. He also wrote and published several books, including the top selling how to read a book along with Mortimer Adler, also the joy of reading and a history of knowledge past present and future..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

AP News

02:44 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on AP News

"Piercing ammunition in high capacity magazines, but since Pennsylvania law, prohibits local regulation of guns and ammunition. A coalition of gun rights groups filed a lawsuit minutes after the bills were signed. I'm shutting Adler Charles van Doren who as a dashing young academic rose and fell as a corrupt game show contestant in the nineteen fifties. Inspiring the movie quiz show has died. He was ninety three then Dorn died of natural causes Tuesday at a care center for the elderly and Canaan Connecticut van Dorn was the central figure in the TV game show scandals of the late fifties. And eventually pleaded guilty to perjury for lying to a grand jury that investigated them he made fourteen electrifying appearances on twenty one in late nineteen fifty-six in early nineteen fifty seven beating thirteen competitors. And winning a then record one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars because the show producers provided him with the answers following the quiz show scandal. He also wrote and published several books including the top selling how to read a book along with Mortimer Adler, also the joy of reading and a history of. Knowledge past present and future. President Trump is again misrepresenting the immigration policy that forced migrant kids away from their parents at the border AP Washington. Correspondent saga megani has an AP. Fact, I'm the one that stopped what the president stopped or at least suspended were family separations that spiked because of his own zero tolerance policy where all adults caught crossing illegally were prosecuted. Meaning they were separated from their kids. He's blaming his predecessor for the separations. President Obama had the low we changed the law, and I think depression, accurately report it, but of course, they won't because it's not true both administrations operated under the same immigration laws. Trump did not achieve any change in the law. He simply reversed his own policy. Saga megani at the White House. Spying on the Trump campaign. I'm Jacky Quin with an AP news minute. Attorney general William Barr told lawmakers today he will investigate the surveillance warrant that led to the special counsels Russia report, and he says he thinks spying did occur. House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she thinks bar is repeating the president's line is not the attorney general of Donald Trump. He is the attorney general of the United States. Resident Trump is in Texas where he's raising campaign funds announcing a faster pipeline process and pushing for a border wall. There's been an extension for Britain to pull out of the European Union postponed now until October thirty first a winter storm is still pummeling Dakotas. Some highways have been closed a beloved high school, principal in Westfield. New Jersey's died. Derek Nelson went into a coma February after donating bone marrow for a child in France..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

15:19 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on WGN Radio

"When we left the story of the prophet Jonah last week. The reluctant prophet had finally completed the mission that God had given to him. Long before after a painful period of running away from God's call. As you. Remember Jona silently obeyed the word of the Lord the scripture tells us, and he traveled all the way to Niniveh the capital city of the nation of Assyria, the cruel country that Israel feared might just sweep down and destroy them at any moment. And making his way into the very heart of that terrible place. Jonah told the people of Syria of the judgement that God was going to soon bring upon them because of the wickedness of their ways because of the atrocious treatment that they demonstrated towards the other people of the surrounding earth. Amazingly, the Assyrians as you may recall do not end up killing the messenger as Jono no doubt feared instead, the Assyrian king and his subjects do something that Joan could not actually. Really had realistic expectations for though as we discover he feared this might happen. The Assyrian king dresses himself in sackcloth, a visible sign of humility, and sorrow and repentance and contrition, and he and his subjects doing likewise pray that somehow the Lord God might give them a second chance. Which remarkably God does. And the last verse of chapter three as we close it out last week reads when God saw what they did. And how they turn from their evil ways he relented, and he did not bring on them the destruction that he had threatened towards them. Now, we know from subsequent history and scriptural tales that this particular act of contrition on the part of the Assyrians was going to be fairly short lint this series like that kid who gets caught doing something that he should not be doing something very very bad. And he and the just consequences of of his sin, and he wails for mercy. He pleads for mercy. And the child is given an amazing grace in the moment and the child cleans up his act for a little while. But once the scrutiny and the threat of punishment dies down. What happens? He goes back to his old ways. Why? Because there had been no change in his heart a bit of momentary behavior modification, but no change of his heart. The journey of discipleship is all about a change of heart. It's not about laying enough stress on us enough threat upon us that we behave for a certain season. It is about encountering God in a way that alters off from the inside out and transforms our whole way of being that leads to a transformation of our way of doing. In similar fashion, Jonas message brings about a change in the behavior of the innovates, but not a real conversion of their heart and one clue to the reality that this is. So even before we actually see the behavioral change begin to dissipate is that we're told in chapter three that the innovates believed to God. And it's interesting to note in the original language that the word for God that is used there is the generic term elohim rather than the more personal name of God. Which is your copay. In other words, what the lights are doing is. They're making their appeal to something like sate, some some impersonal kind of judgment out there rather than really giving their hearts over to the God of Israel. There's no indication the tax here that are actually abandoning their local gods at all or their idols. There haven't give it up yet the securities that they normally hold onto. We don't see them sacrificing to the Jewish. God the way we see the pagan sailors in chapter one sacrificing to Israel's God, we're being given clues here that the the transformation fights is not much more than skin deep. What happened, and then it was more like a temporary course correction than a remaking the nation's spiritual identity and sometime later, the Assyrians will indeed go back to their murdering cruel repair ways and God will bring down judgement on them. This time. And there will not be escape. No more chances. As I read that story. I think how often my own repentance has been similarly superficial. God if you just get me out of this. If you just give me a pass on this. I will do this for you. I will never do that. Again. I think of the many promises that many of us have made to God or to somebody else. Only to have our core. Character reassert itself in time. Because behavior modification is no substitute for heart change, think of how many people flooded into churches after nine eleven realizing our great dependence upon God think how you stayed behind after security was reestablished this, of course, is not a surprise to God he knows this about us. He knows how fickle we often are and yet nonetheless he's so often chooses to extend his grace and for his judgment anyway. Wow. Hold onto that thought. We're gonna come back to it. So here's the deal. At this moment in the story. The Syrians have changed in some important ways. They have not be headed Jona. They have ceased their warring violence the daring summit that nobody thought could possibly come about or work at all has actually gone stunningly. Well, Israel is temporarily at least safer now at this moment, and the Assyrians have shown themselves capable of some kind of change so Jona, of course, is thrilled. Right. I mean, he is tween to his friends the success of his endeavors in the capital city. Of the nation of Assyria. Well, the answer to what really goes on is in chapter four, and that is where we pick up the story today. And I want to read to you chapter one rather chapter four and verse one, but two Jona this seemed very wrong and he became angry. He prayed to the Lord isn't this? What I said Lord when I was still at home. This is what I tried to forestall by fleeing to Tarshish, I know that you are a gracious and a compassionate God slow to anger and abounding in love a God who relents from sending calamity now. Lord, take my life away for it is better for me to die than to live. And if I were God, I'd have been tempted to grant that prayer last. I'd have been sorely tempted. Wow. Think about this Jonah would rather die. Then have the Assyrians not die. That's what's going on here in this prayer. Can you understand that kind of sentiment? On some level. I think I can understand that. I can really understand being in a place like that. It reminds me of something once honestly can fast by Levi's Zell, the fame survivor of the Nazi holocaust. I composed a prayer. He says literally I composed a prayer saying God of mercy have no mercy on these souls. On these murderers of children, God of compassion have no compassion. On these who killed these children. And I was criticised all over the world for that prayer. Mysel- objected because this prayer was published all over the world. But I felt it I still feel it. Some people do not deserve forgiveness. Even if they repent. They don't deserve the grace and mercy and compassion of God. I do not think that we can get the message of the book of Jonah until we sit I with that feeling. Us may ever allow our emotions to rise to the level of intensity that Joan expresses in these particular moments, but the sense that we are entirely justified in writing off certain people is a fundamental part of the human condition. And in a sense part of. A moral sensibility around Justice. I think that this sentiment is behind our millennia old ability to construct systems of Justice. But it is also behind some of the worst parts of the human experience. It is this sentiment that accounts for our capacity to commit genocide to wage unjust wars to walk into a bar or a school and gun people down. It's the sentiment at the root of our ability to ignore the plight of whole groups of people or to refuse to consider any longer some other parties point of view, we've come to believe sometimes we do come to believe that it is actually not only okay to do that. It is righteous to do that. As Jonah felt it was righteous. To insist on the death of the Assyrians. One of the best selling apps of the handheld device revolution. Is a little application a game. Actually that's called pocket. God pocket guide and the game. Makes you the supreme deity over little island. That is inhabited by residents called pygmies. And you are the large cosmic one, and they are the pygmies among the options available to you. As God is the opportunity to go bowling for islanders with huge boulders or to use pygmies as bait for shark fishing. You can throw the islanders developed Tinos. If you feel like it or you can destroy their villages with earthquakes, the games description reads, and I quote, what kind of God would you be benevolent or vengeful play pocket God? And discover the answer within yourself. Needless to say the game provides you with a lot more options to torture and destroy the islanders then to refine and redeem them. Such is the nature of this game. Well, the story of Jonah is the story of humanity's tendency to play pocket God. It is the story of humanity's self righteous sensibility, sometimes about the sins and the failings of others. And because it is so natural to have these feelings to do these things always certain of our rectitude. It is always more than a little disturbing. To run into the real God. The real God. Not the God of our magic nations. Not the God of our wishes not the God of our tribe, but the real God. This amazing God who meets us in the scriptures. And in the story of salvation history. Listen to what God says to Jonah. But the Lord replied is it, right? For you to be angry. And I think the implication there is it is it right for you to let your wrath go to that particular place. My instinct, of course, would be to answer. God if I were in Jonas shoes. Yeah. Have you forgotten about these baby bashing Syrians, and all the horrors that they've done is it right for me to feel this way extend grace and mercy to those people come on God not that not that. But the story goes on Jonah had gone out and sat down at a place east of the city. There he made himself a shelter. He sat in its shade. And he waited to see what would happen to the city. He has not given up hope that God might finally do the right thing and destroy those people. The scene reminds me of that time that the brilliant educator, Dr Mortimer Adler, suddenly left a discussion group. At a polite t quite disgusted with everybody in the room. He went out of the room and slammed the door behind him and somebody just trying to relieve the tension remarked. Well, he's gone. He's gone. To which the host of the party replied, no, he isn't. That's a closet..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

14:09 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"To play nine seventy WFL a every day at six AM. Dan, welcome back to coast to coast Daniel Flynn with us as we talk about his latest work cult city. What were some of your other books Daniel? I wrote a book called the one football a few years ago when the concussion issue up. Up obviously, very different book than this. I wrote a book called blue collar intellectuals about some of my intellectual heroes, Ray Bradbury. Mortimer Adler and Eric Hoffer? I wrote a book called intellectual morons how ideology makes smart phone for stupid ideas. And I think that book probably lends itself best to this particular book because that, you know, a lot of very smart people sell for something stupid of all I very famous people, Jane Fonda and Harvey milk and Willie Brown and others sell for this guy. Jan Johnson is important to note. And it wasn't just these people down in South America to sell for Jim Jones with a lot of people in San Francisco and the United States who fell from as well. Did any of these people who fell for him later admit that they screwed up after this episode. Not really George Mosconi who appointed Jones to chair the housing commission in San Francisco. He said, it's I'm not I'm not shouldering this responsibility. It's not mine to bear and Willie Brown. He wrote a memoir about ten years ago. And if you read the memoir, you get the impression that he was a detached observer who just sort of new Upjohn's rather than knew him personally. I mean, he wrote to Fidel Castro saying that Jones was someone that he should give a state visit to as if you were world leader Willie Brown was one of the biggest supporters of of Jones one of the things that really amazes me. His biggest supporter in San Francisco was this guy who was a newspaper publisher was physician and good luck defended Jim Jones after Jonestown he was attacking Leo Ryan attacking the press who exposed Jones who the checking the concerned relatives you just wanted their family members back call them good with the most prominent. Street address in San Francisco is now named in his honor city hall is one call to be good place. The most significant thing this guy didn't have life was to act as a propagandist for Jim Jones. And yet you have San Francisco honoring him with not just some alley raising the street that gives city hall it's address, and so they they've largely forgotten about all of the people were boosting Jim Jones in San Francisco. Well, you haven't. No, let's go to Carlos in San Francisco. Hi, Carlos go ahead. Hi, good evening. Good morning. And wish you both say happy joyous thanksgiving. Thank you you too. You're welcome. My like to preface my question will be really brief. But I'd like your purpose. My question by stating that my understanding especially after watching the documentary called deprogrammed on Netflix about cults and specifically highlighted this one individual and African Americans in San Diego who use these kinds of non psychologically sound techniques to basically bring people into sobriety from their indoctrination of the respect with cults that they have been consumed. And and so, but an interesting they do mention that in the Diana tragedy that at that point is when the newspapers now starting to want to cover colts because at this time, they didn't want you. And then what seemed what they explained in the documentary was that a lot of people that were trying to expose calls were getting sued and they were getting buried in legal motions that legitimately. They just couldn't afford it anymore. And so, but I'd like to properties my question by this that when someone gets indoctrinated a called, my understanding is that there's a cotton of dissonance that is really being manufactured. And so therefore, there's kind of out of mindedness subject, that's being know. Consumed into the call immersed into the coke. And so therefore they're dispensed lesson. So so family members need whatever resources available to facilitate the extrication of someone that has gotten involved in a cult. And you mentioned the Heaven's Gate. For example, looking at all those documentaries of the subjects that ultimately committed suicide. I mean, these people are very intelligent people. They're computer programmers. But what I'd like to ask your gas? If he could speak to this. I don't know if he can't or not is what legislation is in-place or should be instituted in place that parties have a loved one or two could refer to to. Promote the facilitation of the legal channels to aid in the extrication of someone that is just now caught up in a cult because it's the there's a standoffish posture where they, you know, they're adult they can do whatever they want. It's their free. Well, but as in the case of Heaven's Gate, you know, I mean, I'm sure a lot of these family members were devastated that they couldn't they couldn't refer to any legal body or any legal statutes that would enable this. So that's my question to your guest. And thank you for allowing speaks sure thing, and I'm not sure that there's any laws is available to allow them to go get people Daniels. Even now, I don't think there is. I think they've been excellent question. It's one I've thought about a lot. But it's it's one, unfortunately, I don't have a very good answer for because I am the collar points out these are adults. And we assume that people have free. Will. And it's very difficult to tell an adult to extracted adults from a place that they want to be I think in the case of peoples temple they had a legal pretext to go in there because some of the people were kidnapped. They were being held there against their will. And some of them admitted to this people escaped there was one man who escaped prior to the cataclysm, and he talked about being, you know, abused and that kind of thing. So there was reason to go in there. There was a quarter from California. There was also court proceedings in in Guyana about the six year old boy that Jones kidnapped and so they could have done something, but they didn't. And I think a lot of cases with calls there, usually is some type of you know, that they're they're involved in a lot of Hong doing the walk could go in there. And not just say that you know, these people are brainwashed. But to use the law to get the people out, unfortunately, they didn't do that in Johnstown are there. Do you think? Jim Jones is out there. Now. Oh, I'm sure I mean, tha that scale I mean, this is an event that you know, I don't wanna say it's unrepeatable because on small scales. Like Heaven's Gate. I it's been repeated, and I think the caller brought up an interesting point that, you know, the reaction to Johnstown in some ways it was an overreaction. I mean, what we saw Waco the common denominator with Waco and Johnstown is that the government really screwed up. Now, I don't know enough about Waco to say exactly what happened there. But the overwhelming force that they used I think the context of Jonestown really sort of you know, you have to see Waco in the context of Jonestown of what became before it because they didn't want something like that to happen. And obviously something very bad happened at Waco. They sure did Joe Long Island New York. Hi joseph. Go ahead. Daniel interesting topic. He seemed to men make it feels. And I'm wondering what the popularity was of the idea of faith healing on the west coast at the time and. Whether it's moved to San Francisco was calculated to San Francisco and also with Georgetown, you're saying that this temple scape. Was adjacent or in the city now Georgetown is not a backward planes. You can walk around freely. You can take us you can walk to the seawall and so forth. Wh what's to prevent someone from going out and walking around, especially if you're African American a lot of the population that was black. You could quickly appointed into the crowd. It's English speaking it's not like, you're boxed out because of the language issue either. So I I don't understand how these people were held hostage in a city where you can hop on a bus freely and walk around freely. There were a few peoples temple members who escaped because they were allowed to go to Jonestown. There was about fifty people living in the temple headquarters in Johnstown and most of the people with the most trusted Jones members. Sharon Amos woman who wants volunteered that she would see her family birdseed, just save save people's temple money. She was someone who was allowed to live in Georgia Georgetown because they knew she wasn't gonna leave. She was the most committed committed and she ends up slashing her kids throats and Johnstown, but some of the members who were got to Jonestown we're able to escape that way. Just by the very means that you you suggest, but the fact is that they had a thousand or so people in Jonestown and most of those people unless they needed dental work or some medical work. We're not going to be allowed to go to Georgetown. They were. They were in Jonestown shut off from telephone communication from television news, they were getting just loudspeaker harangues from Jim Jones saying things like they were concentration camps in the United States. They were getting a lot of misinformation, and they were not allowed to leave. If they did wanna leave. It was a jungle with Jaguars, and spiders and all sorts of dangers that they had to get through to do that. Next up. Let's go to Denny in Mississippi. Hi devontae. Go ahead. Hey pronounce my name perfectly perfect. I love it. Because I have a great producer who phonetically spells it for me. That's awesome. I wanted to ask Daniel I had read something about when I guess Dianne Feinstein was on the board of supervisors and San Francisco, and if he knew if this was truly about how her honoring him as a like, a great humanitarian and the ad is true. The did the board of supervisors unanimously presented a certificate of honor to Jim Jones in nineteen seventy six humanitarianism Dianne Feinstein who did more. So than other San Francisco politician, she did keep a template arms length, but she was one of the ones that voted for the certificate honor, Nancy, Pelosi's brother-in-law who voted for that. So you know, it was at that point. It wasn't as though Feinstein work is win with Jones with people sample. I say, you know, governor Brown or Willie Brown Harvey milk. But she did she didn't fact you that that is true. Daniel. Can another Jonestown happened. Well, I don't know if it can happen. Exactly that way. It's almost an unrepeatable that I mean if you. All right. It's it is the largest loss of civilian life in American history up until nine eleven, you know, the idea that you could get nine hundred or so people in conventions to kill themselves that the very hard thing to pull off. So could it happen at that scale? I, you know, history Johnstown in the pavilion. They had a big sign up that quote Santayana those who cannot remember the past or doomed to repeat it. So you should remember the past because these things can repeat I don't know if something like that something so bizarre on such a grand scale if it could repeat like that. But as we've seen from Heaven's Gate, and other examples, it's it's things like that have happened. Just not on that scale Joe in the Bronx taken away Joseph. Hey, George, how are you happy thanksgiving thanksgiving Daniel? Thank you. Ask a question pertaining to female members of the people's temple. What what influence as far as sexual relations is concerned to Jim Jones have over his female members. And can you explain the idea that he was presenting himself to his followers as their God? Yeah. With the female members Jones had a rule of absence for the people and peoples temple and some followed it and some did not with the female members. He he had sexual access to them if they didn't give them access. He he would often force themselves upon them, and I should add it just didn't you know, on occasion, he would force himself on man as well in rather humiliating ways. He actually one of the groups that defected from people's temple in nineteen Seventy-three part of the reason why. Laughed is one of their leaders was doing poorly in school in decided that the way he could do better in school is a Jones got on top of them. And he didn't that didn't sound too good to him. And so he took off with seven other young leaders and peoples temple the interesting thing, I talked to a number of gay men who were involved in people's temple Jones never came onto them. It was only the straight, man. So this was a really I was a power thing for thing. It was a power thing for him. It was a power thing. And it was the same thing for the women, but he had a type of women it usually was very skinny small breasted white women, and occasionally he would he would veer from that. But he had a type of women that he would go after and they were available to him. I wonder if psychiatrists analyzed him what they would have come up with..

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"And welcome back to coast to coast Daniel Flynn with us as we talk about his latest work called city. What were some of your other books Daniel? I wrote a book called the one football a few years ago when the concussion issue. Wins. Obviously, very different book. I wrote a book called blue collar intellectuals about some of my intellectual heroes, right bradberry and Mortimer Adler and Eric Hoffer. I wrote a book called intellectual morons how ideology makes smart phone for stupid ideas. And I think that book probably lends itself best to this particular book, because that's, you know, a lot of very smart people fell for something stupid. I very famous people, Jane Fonda and Harvey milk and Willie Brown and others fell for this guy. Jim Johnson is important to note. And it wasn't just these people down in South America that fell for Chipper Jones with a lot of people in San Francisco and the United States who fell from as well did any of these people who fell for him later admit that they screwed up after this episode. Not really George Mosconi who pointed Jones to chair the housing commission in San Francisco. He said, it's I'm not I'm not shouldering this responsibility. It's not mine to bear and Willie Brown. He wrote a memoir about ten years ago. And if you read the memoir, you get the impression that he was a detached observer who just sort of new Upjohn's rather than knew him personally. I mean, he wrote to Fidel Castro saying that Jones was someone that he should give a state visit to as if you were world leader Willie Brown was one of the biggest supporters of of Jones one of the things that really amazes me. His biggest supporter in San Francisco was this guy. Carleton Goodland who was a newspaper publisher was physician. Call and good luck defended Jim Jones after Jonestown. He was attacking Leo Ryan attacking the press who would exposed Jones checking the concerned relatives who just wanted their family members back. Call them good. Let them the most prominent. Great address in San Francisco is now named in his honor city hall is one call to be good place. The most significant thing this guy didn't have life was to act as a propagandist for Jimmy Johns. And yet you have San Francisco honoring him with not just some alley raising the street that gives city hall it's address, and so they they've largely forgotten about all of the people who were boosting Jim Jones in San Francisco. Well, you haven't. Let's go to Carlos in San Francisco. Hi, Carlos go ahead. Hi, good evening. Good morning. And wish you both say happy joyous thanksgiving. Thank you you too. You're welcome. My I'd like to preface my question will be really brief. But I'd like to preface my question by stating that my understanding especially after watching the documentary called deprogrammed on net. Flicks about cults and specifically highlighted this one individual and African Americans in San Diego who use these kinds of non psychologically sound techniques to basically bring people into sobriety from their indoctrination of the respective cults that they have been consumed, and and so but in interesting, they do mention that in the Diana tragedy. At that point is when the newspapers now starting to want to cover colts because at this time they didn't want to and then which seemed what they explained in. The stock was that a lot of people that were trying to expose colts were getting sued and they were getting buried and legal motions that legit justly. They just couldn't afford it anymore. And so, but I'd like to properties my question by this that when someone gets indoctrinated a called, my understanding is that there's a cognitive dissonance that is really being manufactured. And so therefore there's kind of this out of mindedness subject that's being consumed into the call immersed into the coke. And so therefore, they're defenseless. So so family members me whatever resources available to the silicate the extrication of someone that has gotten involved in a and he mentioned the Heaven's Gate. For example, looking at all those documentaries of the subjects that ultimately committed suicide. I mean, these people are very intelligent people. They're computer programmers. But what I'd like to ask your gas? If he could speak to this. I don't know if he can't or not what legislation is in place or should be instituted in place. That party is a loved one or two could refer to to. Promote the facilitation the legal channels to aid in the extrication of someone that is just now caught up in a cult because it's the, you know, there's a standoffish. Posture where they, you know, they're an adult they can do whatever they want. It's their free. Well, but as in the case of Heaven's Gate. You know, I mean, I'm sure a lot of these family members were devastated that they couldn't they couldn't refer to any legal body or any legal statutes that would enable this. So that's my question to your guest. And thank you for allowing me to speak. Sure thing and I'm not sure that there's any laws is available to allow them to go get people Daniels. Even now, I don't think there is. I think they've been excellent question. And it's one I've thought about a lot. But it's a it's one, unfortunately, I don't have a very good answer for because I am the collar points out these are adults. And we assume that people have free will. And it's very difficult to tell an adult to do extracted adult from a place that they want to be I think in the case of peoples temple they had a legal pretext to go in there because some of the people were kidnapped. They were being held there against their will. And some of them did it to that's people escaped. There was one man who escaped. Prior to to the cataclysm, and he talked about being, you know, abused and that kind of thing. So there was reason to go in there. There was a court order from California. There was also court proceedings in in Guyana about the six year old boy Jones kidnapped and so they could have done something, but they didn't. And I think a lot of cases with called there, usually is some type of, you know, they're they're involved in a lot of Hong doing the law could go in there and not just say that you know, these people are brainwashed to use the law to get the people out. Unfortunately, they didn't do that in Johnstown are there. Do you think? Jim Jones is out there. Now. Well, I'm sure I mean, tha that scale I mean, this is an event that, you know, I don't want to say it's unrepeatable because on small scales like the Kevin's gate, it's been repeated, and I think the caller brought up an interesting point that, you know, the reaction to Johnstown in some ways it was an overreaction. I mean, what we saw Waco the common denominator with Waco and Johnstown is that the government really screwed up. Now, I don't know enough about Waco to say exactly what happened there. But the overwhelming force that they used I think the context of Jonestown really sort of you know, you have to see Waco in the context of Jonestown of what became before it because they didn't want something like that to happen. And obviously something very bad happened that Waco. Sure did Joe Long Island New York. Hi joseph. Go ahead. Daniel interesting topic. He seemed to say it, and I'm wondering what the popularity was the idea of faith healing on the west coast at the time and. Whether it's moved to San Francisco was calculated to San Francisco and also with Georgetown, you're saying that this temples gave us adjacent or in the city now Georgetown is not a backward planes. You can walk around freely. You can take a bus you can walk to the wall and so forth. Wh what's to prevent someone from going out walking around, especially if you're African American a lot of the population that was black. You could quickly appointed into the crowd. It's English speaking it's not like, you're boxed out because of the language issue either. So I don't understand how these people were help hostage in a city where you can hop on a bus freely and walk around freely. There were a few peoples temple members who escaped because they were allowed to go to Jonestown. There was about fifty people living in the temple headquarters in Johnstown and most of those people with the most trusted Jonestown members. Sharon Amos woman who wants volunteered that she would see her family birdseed to save it save the peoples temple money. He was someone who was allowed to live enjoy Georgetown because they knew she wasn't gonna leave. She was the most committed committed and she ends up slashing her kids throats and Johnstown, but some of the members who were got to Jonestown we're able to escape that way. Just by the very means that you you suggest, but the fact is that they had a thousand or so people in Jonestown and most of those people unless they needed dental work or some medical work. We're not going to be allowed to go to Georgetown. They were. They were in Jonestown shut off from telephone communication from television news, they were getting would just be loudspeaker harangues from Jim Jones saying things like they were concentration camps the United States. They were getting a lot of misinformation, and they were not allowed to leave. If they did wanna leave. It was a jungle with Jaguars, and spiders and all sorts of dangers that they had to get through to do that. Next up. Let's go to seventy in Mississippi. Hi, Devon, go ahead. Hey pronounce my name perfectly perfect. Love it. However tease because I have a great producer who phonetically spells it for me. That's awesome. I wanted to ask Daniel I had read something about when I guess Dianne Feinstein was on the board of supervisors and San Francisco, and if he knew if this was truly about hair her honoring him as a like, a great humanitarian and. Yeah. It is true that the board of supervisors unanimously presented a certificate of honor to Jim Jones in nineteen seventy six for his humanitarianism Dianne Feinstein who did more. So than other San Francisco politician, she did keep pamphlet arms length, but she was one of the ones that voted for the certificate honor, Nancy, Pelosi's brother-in-law who voted for that. So you know, it was at that point. It wasn't as though Feinstein were is win with Jones with people's temple. I'd say, you know, governor Brown or Willie Brown Harvey milk. But she did she didn't fact you that that is true. Daniel. Can another Jonestown happened. Well, I don't know if it can happen. Exactly that way. It's almost an unrepeatable that I mean if you are. It was it's it is the largest loss of civilian life in American history up until nine eleven, you know, the idea that you could get nine hundred or so people in convention to kill themselves that very hard thing to pull off. So could it happen at that scale? I, you know, history Johnstown in the pavilion. They had a big sign up that quoted Santayana those who cannot remember the past him to repeat it. So you should remember the past because these things can repeat I don't know if something like that something so bizarre on such a grand scale if it could repeat like that. But as we've seen from Heaven's Gate, and other examples, it's it's things like that have happened. Just not on that scale in the Bronx taken away. Joseph. Go ahead. Hey, George, how are you Rachel? Thanks happy. Thanksgiving thanksgiving Daniel. Thank you. Wait, ask question pertaining to the female members of the people's temple. What what influence in as far as sexual relations is concerned to Jim Jones have over his female members. And can you explain the idea that he was presenting himself to his followers as Eric God? Yeah. With the female members Jones had a rule of absence for the people and peoples temple and some followed it and some did not with the female members. He he had sexual access to them if they didn't give them access, you know, he he would often force themselves upon them, and I should add what's he on occasion? He would force himself on men as well in rather humiliating ways. He actually groups that defected from people sample in nineteen Seventy-three art of the reason why they laughed. Is one of their leaders was doing poorly in school in jails decided that the way he could do better in school is if Jones got on top of him, and he didn't that didn't sound too good to him. And so he took off with about seven other young leaders and peoples temple the interesting thing, I talked to a number of gay men who were involved in people's temple Jones never came onto them. It was only the straight, man. So this was a really I was a power thing. It was. It was a power thing for him. It was a power thing. And it was the same thing for the women, but he had a type of women it usually was very skinny small breasted white women, and occasionally he would he would veer from that. But he had a type of women that he was going after and they were available to him. I wonder if psychiatrists analyzed him what they would have come up with..

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"And welcome back to coast to coast Daniel Flynn with us as we talk about his latest work called city. What were your other books Daniel? I wrote a book called the war on football a few years ago when the concussion issue when. Obviously, very different book than this. I wrote a book called blue collar intellectuals about some of my intellectual heroes, Ray, Bradbury and. Mortimer Adler and Eric Hoffer? I wrote a book called intellectual morons how ideology makes smart phone for stupid ideas. And I think that probably lends itself best to this particular book because that, you know, a lot of very smart people fell for something stupid of all I very famous people, Jane Fonda and Harvey milk and Willie Brown and others fell for this guy. Jan Johnson is important to note. And it wasn't just these people down in South America that fell for Chipper Jones with a lot of people in San Francisco and the United States who fell from as well. Did any of these people who fell for him later admit that they screwed up after this episode. Not really George Mosconi who appointed Jones to chair the housing commission in San Francisco. He said, it's I'm not I'm not shouldering this responsibility. It's not mine to fair and Willie Brown. He wrote a memoir about ten years ago. And if you read the memoir, you get the impression that he was a detached observer who just sort of new Upjohn's rather than knew him personally. I mean, he wrote to Fidel Castro saying that Jones was someone that he should give a state visit to as if he were world leader Willie Brown was one of the biggest supporters of of Jones one of the things that really amazes me. His biggest supporter in San Francisco was this guy. Carleton Goodland who was a newspaper publisher was physician. Call and good luck defended Jim Jones after Jonestown he was attacking Leo Ryan attacking the press who would expose Jones checking the concerned relatives who just wanted their family members back. Call good them the most prominent. Street address in San Francisco is now named in his honor city hall is one call to be good place. The most significant thing this guy did in his life was to act as a propagandist for Jim Jones. And yet you have San Francisco honoring him with watches some alley raising the street that gives city hall it's address, and so they they've largely forgotten about all of the people who were boosting Jim Jones in San Francisco while you haven't. Let's go to Carlos in San Francisco. Hi, Carlos go ahead. Hi, good evening. Good morning. And wish you both say happy joyous thanksgiving. Thank you you too. You're welcome. My like to preface my question will be really brief. But I'd like to preface my question by stating that my understanding especially after watching the documentary called deprogrammed on Netflix about cults and specifically highlighted this one individual and African Americans in San Diego who use these kinds of non psychologically sound techniques to basically bring people into sobriety from their indoctrination of the respective cults that they have been consumed again. And so but an interesting they do mention that in the Guyana tragedy. At that point is when the newspapers now starting to want to cover colts because at this time, they didn't want you. And then which seemed what they explained in this document or was that a lot of people that were trying to expose colts work getting sued and they were getting buried in legal motions that legitimately. They just couldn't afford it anymore. And so, but I'd like to properties my question by this that when someone gets indoctrinated are called, my understanding is that there's a cotton of dissonance that is really being manufactured. And so therefore there's kind of this out of mindedness, a subject that's being consumed into the cult immersed into the coke. And so therefore, they're defenseless and so. So family members need whatever resources available to the silicate the extrication of someone that has gotten involved in a cult. And he mentioned the Heaven's Gate. For example, looking at all those documentaries of the subjects that ultimately committed suicide. I mean, these people are very intelligent people. They're computer programmers. But what I'd like to ask your gas? If he could speak to this. I don't know if he can't or not what legislation is in place or should be instituted in place. That party has a loved one or two could refer to to. Promote the facilitation the legal channels to aid in the extrication of of someone that is just now caught up in a cult. Because it's you know, there's a standoffish posture where they, you know, they're an adult they can do whatever they want. It's their free will. But as the case of Heaven's Gate. You know, I mean, I'm sure a lot of these family members were devastated that they couldn't they couldn't refer to any legal body or any or statutes that would enable this. So that's my question to your guest. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Sure thing and I'm not sure that there's any laws is available to allow them to go get people Daniel, even now, I don't think there is. I think they've been excellent question. It's one I've thought about a lot. But it's it's one, unfortunately, I don't have a very good answer for because I the caller points out these adults, and we assume that people have free. Will. And it's very difficult to tell an adult to do extracted adult for the place that they want to be I think in the case of peoples temple they had a legal pretext to go in there because some of the people were kidnapped. They were being held there against their will and some of them too. That's people escaped. There was one man who escaped prior to to the cataclysm, and he talked about being, you know, abused and that kind of thing. So there was reason to go in there. There was a court order from California. There was also court proceedings in in Guyana about the six year old boy that Jones kidnapped and so they could have done something, but they didn't. And I think a lot of cases with called there, usually is some type of you know, they're they're involved in a lot of wrong doing the walk could go in there. And not just say that you know, these people are brainwashed. But to use the law get the people out, unfortunately, they didn't do that in Johnstown are there. Do you think? Jim Jones is out there. Now. Oh, I'm sure I mean to that scale. I mean, this is an event that you know, I don't want to say it's unrepeatable because on small scales. Like Heaven's Gate. I it's been repeated, and I think the caller brought up an interesting point that, you know, the reaction to Johnstown in some ways it was an overreaction. I mean, what we saw Waco the common denominator with Waco and Johnstown is that the government really screwed up. Now, I don't know enough about Waco to say exactly what happened there. But the overwhelming force that they use. I think the context of Jonestown really sort of you know, you have to see Waco in the context of Jonestown of what became before it because they didn't want something like that to happen. And obviously something very bad happened that Waco. They sure did Joe Long Island New York. Hi joseph. Go ahead Daniel in topic. He seemed to Mamik say, and I'm wondering what the popularity was the idea of faith feeling on the west coast at the time and. Whether it's moved to San Francisco was calculated to San Francisco and also with Georgetown, you're saying that this temple scape. Was adjacent or in the city now Georgetown is not a backward planes. You can walk around freely. You can take a bus you can walk to the seawall and so forth. You know, what's to prevent someone from going out and walking around, and especially if you're African American a lot of the population that was black. You could quickly appointed into the crowd. It's English speaking it's not like, you're boxed out because of the language issue either. So I don't understand how these people were held hostage in a city where you can hop on a bus freely and walk around freely. There were a few peoples temple members who escaped because they were allowed to go to Jonestown. There was about fifty people living in the temple headquarters in Johnstown and most of those people with the most trusted Jonestown numbers. Sharon Amos woman who wants volunteered that she would feed her family, birdseed, just save it save the peoples temple money. She was someone who was allowed to live enjoy Georgetown because they knew she wasn't going to leave. She was the most committed the committed and she ends up slashing her kids throats and Johnstown, but some of the members who were got to Jonestown we're able to escape that way. Just by the very names that you you suggest, but the fact is that they had a thousand or so people in Jonestown in most of those people unless they needed dental work or medical work. We're not going to be allowed to go to Georgetown. They were. They were in Jonestown shuttle off from telephone communication from television. The news they were getting were just these loudspeaker harangues from Jim Jones saying things like they were concentration camps the United States. They were getting a lot of misinformation, and they were not allowed to leave. If they did wanna leave. It was a jungle with Jaguars, and spiders and all sorts of dangers that they had to get through to do that. Next up. Let's go to seventy in Mississippi. Hi, Devon, go ahead. Hey pronounce my name perfectly perfect. I'm love. However. Because I have a great producer who phonetically spells it for me. That's awesome. I wanted to ask Daniel I had read something about when I guess Dianne Feinstein was on the board of supervisors and San Francisco, and if he knew if this was truly about hair her honoring him as a like, a great humanitarian and the ad is true. The the board of supervisors unanimously presented a certificate of honor to Jim Jones in nineteen seventy six humanitarianism Dianne Feinstein who did more. So than other San Francisco politician. She did keep a temple at arm's length, but she was one of the ones that voted for the certificate honor. Nancy, Pelosi's brother-in-law wasn't having who voted for that. So you know, it would at that point. It wasn't as though Feinstein work is win with Jones with people sample. I say, you know, governor Brown or Willie Brown Harvey milk. But she did she didn't fact you that that is true. Daniel. Ten another Jonestown happened. Well, I don't know if it can happen. Exactly that way. It's almost an unrepeatable that I mean if you are jar. It's it is the largest loss of civilian life in American history up until nine eleven. You know, the idea that you could get nine hundred or so people and convinced them to kill themselves that the very hard thing to pull off. So could it happen at that scale? I, you know, history Johnstown in the pavilion. They had a big sign up that quote Santayana those who do not remember the past doomed to repeat it. So you should remember the past because these things can repeat I don't know if something like that something so bizarre on such a grand scale if it could repeat like that. But as we've seen from Heaven's Gate, and other examples, it's it's things like that have happened. Just not on that scale Joe in the Bronx taken away Joseph. Go ahead. Hey, George, how are you? Rachel. Thanks happy. Thanksgiving. Thanks giving. Daniel, thank you. Wait, ask question pertaining to female members of the people's temple. What what influence in as far as sexual relations is concerned to Jim Jones have over his female members. And can you explain the idea that he was presenting himself to his followers as here God? Yeah. With the female members Jones had a rule of absence for the people and peoples temple and some followed it and some did not with the female members. He he had sexual access to them if they didn't give them access, you know, he he would often force themselves upon them, and I should add that this didn't what he you know, on occasion, he would force himself on men as well in rather humiliating ways. He actually one of those groups that defected from people's temple in nineteen Seventy-three part of the reason why. They laughed is one of their leaders was doing poorly in school in jails decided that the way he could do better in school is it up Jones got on top of him. And he didn't that didn't sound too good to him. And so he took off with seven other young leaders and peoples temple the interesting thing, I talked to a number of gay men who were involved in people's temple Jones never came onto them. It was only the straight, man. So this was a really I was a power thing for it was a power thing for him. It was a power thing. And it was the same thing for the women, but he had a type of women it usually was very skinny small breasted white women, and occasionally he would he would veer from that. But he had a type of women that he would go after and they were available to him. I wonder if psychiatrists analyzed him what they would have come up with..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

14:02 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"And welcome back to coast to coast Daniel Flynn with us as we talk about his latest work called city while we're some of your other books Daniel. I wrote a book called the one football a few years ago when the concussion issue was obviously very different book than this. I wrote a book called blue collar intellectuals about some of my intellectual heroes, Ray, Bradbury and. Mortimer Adler and Eric Hoffer? I wrote a book called intellectual morons how ideology makes smart phone for stupid ideas. And I think that book probably lends itself best to this particular book because that, you know, a lot of very smart people fell for something stupid. Well, I very famous people Jane Fonda and Harvey milk and Willie Brown and others fell for this guy. Jim Johnson is important to note. And it wasn't just these people down in South America to sell for. Jim Jones is a lot of people in San Francisco and the United States as well did any of these people who fell for him later admit that they screwed up after this episode. Not really George Mosconi who appointed Jones to chair the housing commission in San Francisco. He said, it's I'm not I'm not shouldering this responsibility. It's not mine to bear and Willie Brown. He wrote a memoir about ten years ago. And if you read the memoir, you get the impression that he was a detached observer who just sort of new Upjohn's rather than knew him personally. I mean, he wrote to Fidel Castro saying that Jones was selling that he should give a state visit to as if he were world leader Willie Brown was one of the biggest supporters of Jones one of the things that really amazes me. His biggest supporter in San Francisco was this guy. Good who was a newspaper publisher was physician. Call them good. With defended. Jim Jones after Jonestown. He was attacking Leo Ryan attacking the press who exposed Jones. He's attacking the concerned relatives just wanted their family members back call good late the most prominent. Street address in San Francisco now named in his honor city hall is one call to be good this place. The most significant thing this guy did in his life was to act as a propaganda for Jim Jones. And yet you have San Francisco honoring him with notches some alley raising the street the street that gives city hall it's address, and so they they've largely forgotten about all of the people who were boosting Jim Jones in San Francisco while you haven't. No. Let's go to Carlos in San Francisco. Hi, Carlos go ahead. Hi, getting in good morning. And wish you both say happy joyous. Thanksgiving you too. You're welcome. My like to preface my question. I'll be really brief. But I'd like it properties. My question by stating that my understanding especially after watching the documentary called deprogrammed on Netflix about cults and specifically highlighted this one I individual and African Americans in San Diego who use these kinds of non psychologically sound techniques to basically bring people into sobriety from their indoctrination of the perspective cults that they have been consumed them. And so but in interesting, they do mention that in the Diana tragedy. That at that point is when the newspapers now starting to want to cover colts because at this time, they didn't want you. And then what seem what they explained in this document or was that a lot of people that were trying to expose calls working sued and they were getting buried in legal motions that legitimately. They just couldn't afford it anymore. And so, but I like to properties my question by this that when someone gets doctored into called, my understanding is that there's a cognitive dissonance that is really being manufactured. And so therefore, there's kind of this out of mindedness subject that's being you know, consumed into the cult immersed into the coke. And so therefore, they're the science lesson. So. So family members need whatever resources available to the the extrication of someone that has gotten involved in a cult, and you mentioned the Heaven's Gate. For example, looking at all those documentaries of the subjects that ultimately committed suicide. I mean, these people are very intelligent people. They're computer programmers. But what I'd like to ask your gas? If he could speak to this. I don't know if he can't or not what legislation is in place or should be instituted in place. That party has a loved one or two could refer to to. Promote the facilitation of the legal channels to aid in the extrication of of someone that is just now caught up in a cult because it's the there's a standoffish. Posture where they, you know, they're an adult they can do whatever they want. It's their free. Well, but isn't the case happens gay, you know, I mean, I'm sure a lot of these family members were devastated that they couldn't they couldn't refer to any legal body or any legal statutes that would enable that. So that's my question to your gas new. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Sure thing and I'm not sure that there's any laws is available to allow them to go get people Daniels. Even now, I don't think there is. I think they've been excellent question. It's one I've thought about a lot. But it's it's one, unfortunately, I don't have a very good answer for because I am the collar points out these are adults. And we assume that people have free will. And it's very difficult to tell an adult to do extracted adults place that they want to be I think in the case of peoples temple they had a legal pretext to go in there because some of the people were kidnapped. They were being held there against their well and some of them have to that's people escaped. There was one man who escaped prior. Or to to the cataclysm, and he talked about being, you know, abused and that kind of thing. So there was reason to go into. There was a court order from California. There was also court proceedings in in Guyana about the six year old boy that Jones kidnapped and so they could have done something, but they didn't. And I think a lot of cases with called there, usually is some type of you know, they're they're involved in a lot of Hong doing the walk could go in there. And not just say, you know, these people are brainwashed. But to use the law to get the people out, unfortunately, they didn't do that in Johnstown are there. Do you think? Jim Jones is out there. Now. Oh, I'm sure I mean to that scale. I mean, this is an event that you know, I don't want to say it's repeatable because on small scales. Like Heaven's Gate. I it's been repeated, and I think the caller brought up an interesting point that, you know, the reaction to Johnstown in some ways it was an overreaction. I mean, what we saw at Waco, the common denominator with Waco, and Johnstown is that the government really screwed up. Now, I don't know enough about Waco to say exactly what happened there. But the overwhelming force if they use I think the context of Jonestown really sort of you know, you have to see go in the context of Jonestown of what became before it because they didn't want something like that to happen. And obviously something very bad happened at Waco. They sure did Joe Long Island New York. Hi joseph. Go ahead. Daniel interesting topic. He seemed to Lennick say, and I'm wondering what the popularity was the idea of faith feeling on the west coast at the time and. Whether it's moved to San Francisco was calculated to San Francisco and also with Georgetown, you're saying that this temple scape. Was adjacent. Or in the city now. Georgetown is not a backward place you can walk around freely. You can take a bus you can walk to the seawall and so forth. Wh you know, what's to prevent someone from going out walking around with especially if you're African American a lot of the population that was black. You could quickly blend into the crowd. It's English speaking it's not like, you're boxed out because of the language issue either. So I don't understand how these people were held hostage in a city where you can hop on a bus freely and walk around freely. There were a few peoples temple members who escaped because they were allowed to go to Jonestown. There was about fifty people living in the temple headquarters in Johnstown and most of those people with the most trusted Jonasson members. Sharon Amos women who wants volunteered that she would feed her family, birdseed, just save save people's temple money. She was someone who was allowed to live in George, Georgetown. Because they knew she wasn't gonna leave. She was the most committed the committed and she ends up slashing her kids throats and Johnstown, but some of the members who were got to Jonestown we're able to escape that way. Just by the very means that you you suggest, but the fact is that they had a thousand or so people in Jonestown and most of those people unless they needed dental work or medical work. We're not going to be allowed to go to Georgetown. They were. They were in Jonestown shut off from telephone communication from television news. They were getting were just these loudspeaker harangues from Jim Jones saying things like they were concentration camps the United States. They were getting a lot of misinformation, and they were not allowed to leave. If they did wanna leave. It was a jungle with Jaguars, and spiders and all sorts of dangers that they had to get through to do that. Next up. Let's go to definitely in Mississippi. Hi, Devon, go ahead. Hey pronounce my name perfectly perfect. I'm loving fees. Because I have a great producer who phonetically spells it for me. That's awesome. I wanted to ask Daniel I had read something about when I guess Dianne Feinstein was on the board of supervisors and San Francisco, and if he knew if this was truly about hair her honoring him like a great humanitarian and the ad is true. The the board of supervisors unanimously presented a certificate of honor to Jim Jones in nineteen seventy six humanitarianism Dianne Feinstein who did more. So than other Cisco politician. She did keep a sample at arm's length, but she was one of the ones that voted for the certificate honor, Nancy, Pelosi's brother-in-law who voted for that. So you know, it was at that point. It wasn't as though Feinstein work is win with Jones with people sample. I say, you know, governor Brown or Willie Brown Harvey milk. But she did she didn't fact you that that is true. Daniel. Can another Jonestown happened. Well, I don't know if it can happen. Exactly that way. It's almost an unrepeatable that I mean, if he says was arm. It's it is the largest loss of civilian life in American history up until nine eleven. You know, the idea that you could get nine hundred or so people inconvenient to kill themselves that the very hard thing to pull off. So could it happen at that scale? I, you know, history Johnstown in the pavilion. They had a big sign up that quote Santayana those who cannot remember the past or Jim to repeat it. So you should remember the past because these things can repeat I don't know if something like that something so bizarre on such a grand scale if it could repeat like that. But as we've seen from Heaven's Gate, and other examples, it's it's things like that have happened. Just not on that scale Joe in the Bronx taken away Joseph. Go ahead. Hey, George, how are you? Rachel. Thanks happy. Thanksgiving any to giving Daniel. Thank you. What to ask a question pertaining to female members of the people's temple? What what influence in as far as sexual relations is concerned to Jim Jones have over his female members. And can you explain the idea that he was presenting himself to his followers as their God? Yeah. With the female members Jones had a rule of absence for the people and people's temple and some followed it and some did not with the female members. He he had sexual access to them if they didn't give them access you he he would often force themselves upon them, and I should add it just didn't you know, on occasion. He would force himself on men as well in rather humiliating ways. He actually one of the groups that defected from people sampling in nineteen Seventy-three part of the reason why. They laughed is one of their leaders was doing poorly in school in jobs decided that the way he could do better in school is Jones got on top of him. And he didn't that didn't sound too good to him. And so he took off with seven other young leaders and peoples temple the interesting thing, I talked to a number of gay men who were involved in people's temple Jones never came onto them. It was only the straight, man. So this was a really I was a power thing for actual thing. It was a power thing for him. It was a power thing. And it was the same thing for the women, but he had a type of women it usually was very steady small breasted white women, and occasionally he would he would veer from that. But he had a type of women that he would go after and they were available to him. I wonder if psychiatrists analyzed him what they would have come up with..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

11:14 min | 1 year ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"So keeping Colorado's number one is really very simple. I'm I'm proud of of the record that we've amassed and and we've done it with a great group of people work well with the sixty four Kenneth clerks across their state. I'm honored to have the support of the majority of them even those the other party, but it is it is about actually managing and running office. And that's what I've done as secretary of state the other candidate never manderson office, and usually doesn't even bother to vote. Gubernatorial elections. So I think that I hope anyway that you will sail to victory. When we talk about secretary of state's offices. I will tell you that I lived in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. And sometimes actually a lot of times. There was so much conflict about that department and about voting records in about using that department inappropriately, and you just outlined all of these ways that ours. Just kind of you know, trucks, along to what do you attribute the the high level of faith in our electoral system as it is. Now, you mentioned reforms earlier. Do we need to do anything else? Are we just good Holden? Pat right now. You know, we always have to continue to work on cybersecurity. But the paper ballots that I adopted as the standard in Colorado provided verification level that you can't get with electronics. So we have April ballots, even if you vote on person, you're still gonna have paper ballots that you as the voter can verify. And then we do the nation's first risk limiting audit where we actually go back and compare that that paper ballot that specific paper ballots with the corresponding cast vote record and every county in the state passed that risk audit. So it really is about being able to take leadership. And and frankly, the fact that I was a county clerk that have been involved in the elections process that I'm a certified election registration about shredder, the only one Colorado history that I actually know what I'm doing has helped. But part of it is also a commitment on my part in my office is part to work with people wherever they may come from. We actually ask twenty-five bills over the last four years three democratic house. Republican Senate signed by democratic governor because we worked with everyone to make things better for Colorado. And that's really what I think. Most Colorado's one of the election. There are partisans who want someone just of their party. But I think most Colorado's on someone who's actually going to run the state well who's going to implement procedures that make it easy for businesses. We just won the two thousand eighteen Colorado. For the Colorado nonprofit association their impact award for work in helping nonprofits. And I think ultimately you want government works, but MandA here's the thing. I'm proudest stuff. I got a letter from the San Luis valley animal welfare clinic, and they said, hey, it works really, well, we're really excited. But when we call your office, your staff are quote, invariably, helpful and cheerful. Now, think of all the government have ever dealt with about how many would you describe as invariably helpful with? Cheerful. Yeah. We've got awesome people who worked really hard because we want Colorado to succeed whether it's in voting or establishing a business or non profit, and that's the record. I'm running on. And I'm proud of that. But for folks who haven't voted yet? Please turn in your ballot. Do not bail it at this stage. It needs to get to a county clerk, but you can take it to any of the twenty four seven dropbox is anywhere in the state. So even if you live in Denver, and you have your ballot in Greeley, you can still turn it in as long as it's thereby seventy m tomorrow night, please cast your vote because there really are a lot of important issues on the ballot this year fantastic. Wayne Williams, where are you going to be for the rest of the day? You're going to be out and about I am out and about and I am heading to a victory events and El Paso county and was just up at my office and reviewing things making sure that we are already an actually met with a delegation from Hungary and a delegation from. India both here to observe our election processes, and Colorado man, you should get the Hungarians on my show. Those are my people Wayne people are Hungarian. Not that can converse with them and Hungarian at all of you heard that language, it's a hot mess. Well, magic is a little different than lots of other European languages. It's not quite the Latin based languages, but I'll be excited to hear you converse. And I'm Gary I well, good luck with that. Because my end of the conversation will be a lot of nodding and smiling. That's what that is the Wayne Williams, he wants your vote for secretary of state, and I gotta tell you. I think that you'd be foolish not to vote for him. Although that's not an endorsement, Wayne because my endorsement so the kiss of death. So that's not an endorsement, I'm not endorsing Wayne Williams. I'm not, but you give them a look as all of the newspapers in this state have given him a look and said, yes, this is the guy that you should vote for which I I gotta tell you. That's a pretty big accomplishment in this state. So congratulations on that. And hopefully, we'll congratulate you on your second term as secretary of state Tuesday night. Thank you, very much have a wonderful day, Wayne. I appreciate the phone call very very much. That's Wayne Williams renting. Secretary of state. This is all almost over people. It's all over. Over. Yeah. Anyway, this I thought I would do this today because people are still emailing me, by the way today on the blog. I have a I have linked to Ross Kaminsky voters guide, which is the same as my. They're the same as my picks. And then also Mike Rosen's voter guide. See you can look at both of them, Mike and Rawson I do not necessarily agree on every measure, but there's very good reasons for both. But if you're still stymied on what to vote for now is the time. Dave, I'm giving out free advice. I've hung my Lucy. The doctor is in sign only a nickel. A nickel for great advice on what to vote for. You can even call me about your local issues, even though I know nothing about them. I'll tell you how to vote I'll ask you a couple of questions and tell you how to vote why not Dave some people are just throwing darts against the dirt poor to figure out who to vote for I figure. Hey, I'll give them a slightly more educated opinion about this slightly three zero three seven one three eighty five eighty five Mandy voting service now open three zero three seven one three eighty five eighty five yesterday. The intrepid we we're just talking about the internet and how that's impacted elections. As far as researching issues and candidates what an easy way to do it back in the old days, you go to the library magazines and newspapers, that's it back in the old days. I mean granted I grew up in a small town. So I don't know it was like to do this at a big city. But I remember my father's friends whenever they were together, they were discussing ballot initiatives, and they were talking about different issue. Issues. So it felt more. Trying to think of the word con congenial away because you were actually talking to other people about this stuff that doesn't happen today. I think that it's kind of sad that position where we're yelling at each other on social media instead of having a conversation about why you feel the way you do it listening to another person that feels differently than you. You can't listen to another person if you immediately categorize them as the enemy I've gotten a lot of emails about a guy who called last week and was just a raving lunatic. And they said, well, you know, you really let that guy get under your skin when he called you a racist. I can I clarify for a moment on that last week when he called, and he was yelling at me and wouldn't shut up, and blah, blah, blah, whatever being called a racist. Honestly does not upset me. What upset me about that? Call is whenever anybody calls and says, you're this. You're that you're you're whatever doesn't matter. What it is. You're racist. You're whatever it's fine. They're assigning a position to me that I know. Oh, I don't have been very interested to have a conversation with that person. I want to know what honestly they see is the problem in a vast majority. When I have the chance to drill down on that. They can't come up with a single example of what I've said to make them specifically feel this way. They're just kind of assigning that motive to me, and they don't have a real answer to why. But then on occasion, someone will bring something up and say oh perfect. Let me explain what that was about. And I had the opportunity through that interaction to explain to someone else that I feel differently than they do explain why I said it the way I said it whether as being sarcastic or is making I was engaging in hyperbole to make a point. Or I meant what I said. But here's the thinking behind it. And that guy robbed me of the opportunity to do that. And that peeved me off. It's like, dude, if you're gonna call a talk show, then let's have a conversation. But a conversation goes, you may you may you. Me back and forth conversation. I don't know. If people have just forgotten how to have a conversation, especially with someone they disagree with. I mean, God I feel like we've had this conversation a million times now. Yes, Dave, we talked to a few months ago about a book that was written way back by Mortimer Adler called how to speak to listen. It's something that's not taught in school. You're taught how to read and write but not how to speak unless you're taught how to read and write and regurgitate what school has become read. Right regurgitating this book examines how you should listen to people and how you should carry on a productive conversation, and it's a wonderful book. So he about fussing two hundred pages I've been working on listening, and what's funny. If you're if you're having a conversation with someone especially a serious conversation. We're talking about big issues, and they say something, and you sit there for a minute because you've really listened to what they say. And you're really thinking about it before you respond. It confuses them. They go. Did you hear me? I'm like, yeah. I totally did I heard you. And I'm thinking about what you said. And they're baffled by that. You have to do that you have to take a breath. You have to take a moment. Bad at it. Sometimes I'm good at it. Sometime bad at us. Yeah. It's it's a difficult art to master. It is something you have to think about all the time. Because when you're having a conversation with someone it's very natural. When they say, something, you have a reply ready, right? You're not even listening to the rest of what they have to say right there. Just waiting for space to get it in racked. And that's not speaking listen now. No, it's not Kyle. You're on KOA NewsRadio. Mandy, I totally concur with what you just talked about. I was raised by psychiatrists. So I had to listen..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

02:55 min | 2 years ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on The Art of Manliness

"Mr. Scott Hamburg, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited now. This is great. This is great. So you and I just got finished training in your spectacular garage, Jim. Yes, it is spectacular. You've got two racks. Thank you stained platforms. It's a classy classy joint. Try try. So we're not gonna talk about training the body though. We're gonna. We're gonna talk about training the mind because you started a little thing online, great books dot com. Let's talk about the great books for those who aren't familiar with what are the great books and who decide who is who are the people we got decide like these books are great. Those books are not great. Yeah, that's that's sort of the sort of the postmodern debate now, like what? You know, what constitutes the great books. Here's my opinion, the great books. I believe the list that comprises the great books I believe is an emergent cannon, right? So if you pick up one of these books, I don't. You go pick up Nietzsche, let's say in you're gonna read that for a little bit, and he's gonna mention Descartes. Gosh, she's that guy. They didn't go pick up that book and then he mentions Aristotle. Oh gosh. I gotta go read him and the way these books are self referential, and they're like a mortar round or called him a great conversation between all these geniuses. And so the list is self evident because they referred to each other in answer each other's questions in term over time, and. And. Different different organizations have different lists, but they're ninety percent ninety five percent identical because this is this list is merging these books ref refer to each other, and you really have to read them all to get what all of them are saying each other. Gotcha. So great. We're talking classics. We're going. Yeah, you mentioned Nietzsche, Descartes. You're going all the way back to Plato. He drilled down on any end up end up at the Iliad every everytime Jerry time. Yeah, you end up at the Elliott. So you mentioned Mortimer Adler because this guy was he was a big part of this. There was like a movement. I would say in the middle of the twentieth century where intellectual scholars decided, let's system is the the great books for a lay audience and and Mortimer Adler about this guy because he's kind of he's an interesting. Interesting cat, super interesting. Got yeah. The night in the nineteen twenties John Erskine at Columbia, who who started doing this great books thing where he it was kind of a return to basics idea, you know, and trying to kind of reaction to modern academe eah, I guess. And in one of his students was Mortimer Adler in Adler was smitten by these great books and the changes he saw himself and he ended up ended up not graduating from Columbia because he had to take a physical phys Ed requirement. And he, he refused to take swimming for phys Ed and they, they didn't give him a degree in life. The got one in the eighties from their honorary. So he walked away which university of Chicago and into founding with Robert Hutchins the basic program at university of Kogyo, which is based in these great books..

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on 860AM The Answer

860AM The Answer

06:21 min | 2 years ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on 860AM The Answer

"Okay my. Friends Dennis Prager here third hour on Friday is basically what is on your mind And Let's go to Sebastian, relate didn't we have him last? Hour we can't have us two hours in a row I'm sorry. Sebastian I'm going to, have, to let you go unless there? Were two twenty five year old Sebastian's in Brooklyn Call. Yet, the, odds, of. Which are, sort. Of lottery are odds so have to let you go Glenn in Manville New Jersey hi Glenn Dennis Prager Hi janice My, question is what do you think of the intellectual? Dark, web Well. I did not even know. Of it until I saw your call I never heard of it so I then went, to a search and New York Times, had a big piece meat the renegades of the intellectual dark web and it cites people all of whom are nearly. All of whom. Of either been on the show or I know and let's see so they have Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson and Brett Weinstein. And his wife Brett. Weinstein is. The, professor from originally from Washington was it or Oregon you know that. The evergreen state yeah he. Got the one who is who use on my show he's the biologist who's who's on, the left but he wasn't but he's, honorable and he wouldn't leave the university on the day that they said all whites should leave the, university that day. So kids kids. Start I'm sorry I was just saying yet yeah okay so he he. Was screamed at the ferociously you could you could, see it all on, YouTube by students black and white? For, being a racist and finally was he was so unsafe he. Left the university Jordan Peterson is well known, to many of, us also some versity courses Ben Shapiro of course you know Douglas Murray was the, former Islamist now anti Islamist an here CLE. My know very well. She just She, and I, have a, big dialogue, at pregnant adversity event Christina huff summers any so these terrific people what would you like. To know I guess I I guess if you know them. As individuals I just wanna to say this about them as, exciting, and interesting and. Fascinating and important does. Each of them is on us When they earn, Dowa together two or three or. More damn it is even more intellectual I I need, calendars in this group as a group when Jordan Peterson Weinstein will guest on the Joe Rogan, experience which goes for about three hours they were originally there to discuss your free speech adventures but, it developed into a just lengthy intellectual ramble, involving g and evolution and and hosting subjects and it's the most intellectually exhilarating conversations I've ever heard beginning discovering others previously highpoints The appearances of Mortimer Adler on William as puppies firing y and the, answer is a Robert Bork when he was being confirmed and giving insurance more right Well, there. Really is an audience for deep talk that's that's clear, and in fact a lot of people suggested that I start doing pot guy do of course podcasts I do what I call. My fireside chat every week and it has it averages three hundred seventy five thousand views and It's something you would all enjoy by. The way it's. That I can, tell you I I literally sit by my fireplace in my own home speak, about. What's on my mind and then take questions almost all the questions are for people under thirty or even under twenty five So but I it's been suggested that I do a conversations with some formidable intellect At some. Length and I I'm I'm considering it the fact that there is such a thirst, how, could they, not be the you don't get in the intellectual life at college You get you get you get ideological life at college I wish I wish you got Intellectual experience at college So, I thought all right we shall be back in a moment that is time for me to take a quick, break for our sponsors and I'll begin with something very enthused about because I'm sitting. On the x. chair it's the new x., three chair in fact They say it's. The most modern Eric conomic high tech. Comfortable office chair in the world and they may well be right I haven't sat on every office, chair in the world. So I'm very careful about what I, say but it's certainly the most modern economic high-tech comfortable office chair I've ever sat on and believe me I could happily endorsed. The chair and sit on something else during my show could, still be say it's a. Wonderful chair I sit on it. During the show so it's at least four hours because of time before and after the. Show that I'm, here because, it's such a terrific chair so if you have an office home or office at office your employees will bless, you go to x. chairdennis dot com that's one hundred dollars off just for going. There or call eight triple four.

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"mortimer adler" Discussed on Mac Power Users

Mac Power Users

01:31 min | 2 years ago

"mortimer adler" Discussed on Mac Power Users

"Yeah that's awesome yeah and to be honest that was kind of inspired like i was dabbling with that pryor but one of the books that we covered was how to read a book mortimer adler and it's all about getting the most out of the book that you you read and he's advocating because it was written in luke nineteen twenty something for using all of these different shorthand notes in the margins for specific things and i realized at that point that i could do that in my no then it would be searchable i want to follow up on one final topic and you mentioned it briefly and that is your co working space we haven't had a lot of guests on mac power users who use a dedicated co working space a lot of people who work out of their homes people who do the coffee shop and those types of things but tell me a little bit about the thought process behind why you set up a dedicated co working space and what that does for you sure well what i found is that where where i live which is appleton wisconsin it is not a very big area the whole city i think is probably about one hundred thousand people there is not a very big tech community there is not a very big productivity community and so the people who you know that you're going to have like ten people email you because i heard you on this podcast and say hey i'm in appleton wisconsin as well they should all come hang out at appleton co working and we could go get coffee.

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