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"Someone having a great story to tell us what inspires me Because fame for fame's own sake we see is not necessarily a healthy thing for any culture. Certainly our own So I'm usually want to to share stories because sometimes what's shared with me as private? This podcast is brought to you by frames. The upcoming printed Photography magazine here is your today's host dabbled Scott Olson with another fascinating conversation. Hello everyone and welcome to frames. My name is Scott Olsen and I am talking today with Beowulf Sheehan. Beowulf is one of the most sought after most successful and I believe most important portrait photographers in New York. These days he has worked in more than fifty countries lectured at New York University and Yale among other places and if you go to his website you will see portrait of people like Oprah Winfrey Twenty Morrison Patti Smith Margaret Atwood Patrick Stewart in Kellyn Paul Simon and dozens and dozens of others. It is a body of work of which I am personally Quite envious good morning. Bill could he's got great to hear Your Voice. I do have a quick thought for you. I've not traveled to fifty countries the photograph I photographed in better than ten by way of commissions however I have photographed people from at least fifty countries and hopefully been able to travel to their worlds in cultures through those experiences. Okay I saw that on your resume and I was impressed and I'm still impressed. So tell me how things are in New York this morning. New York is a beautiful place this morning. The air is cool and crisp outside. I did have a short walk this morning. I am very fortunate that out my window. I have a cemetery so I get to see less trees and I have a great deal of quiet. What sounds I hear. Every morning in this new time of ours is usually One of two things that I hear all either your birdsong or I will hear the sound of a passing ambulance and of course happy to hear the former not to hear the ladder. That is the time in which we live summer mornings in New York. City yes Tell me about portrait photography but let let let's begin where people how in the world could you get into photography? How did you get into the kind of portraiture that you do specifically I into photography being a shy boy and wanting to make friends and prior to the thought of making friends? I wanted to be reacquainted with my father. My parents divorced when I was in elementary school. My father was out in my life for a few years and when he came back the beginning of my high school years he had a Konica thirty five millimeter camera. A Long Lens to go with it and when I arrived at high school which was a high school outside of my neighborhood I went to magnet high school for foreign languages. I was busted very early in the morning to get there. I was in the ethic minority in head a world of new friends to make and when I got to school my classmates were speaking about two things with which I was unfamiliar of the Miami Dolphins. I grew up in Fort Lauderdale and girls and I knew very little about both but I had been working in the summers and not really spend that money on anything beyond books and comic book so I had enough money saved to become the youngest person in the history of the Miami Dolphins the buy season tickets to the Miami Dolphins. That's impressive I go So what I had done was than I began to use my father's camera and I would take a tripod that camera that long lens invite a new acquaintance from high school to eat game. And I believe my mother had driven been to us down To attend these games and no one ever stopped me. The guards were very kind. They recognize me after a few games. I always went through the same gate that sort of thing and was able to watch Dan Marino or the ball around and make pictures and then make Prince of those pictures and share them with classmates over time developing friendships and of course Getting to know my father again. That's a wonderful beginning there. Is I know an extraordinary event. Though in your early connection to reading and that's possible yes but but I'll let you lead that so when you're asking the extraordinary connection is well. Yeah you you are probably the only you are the only person I know who's ever been bitten by an alligator. Oh this is true this this. I don't know all the people in your life of course who you know but but I'm the only person I know who's been bitten by an alligator and that happened to me in the summer of nineteen seventy six in June of that year. I was of course on summer break from school quite small and my brother and I were playing in the backyard of the home of a friend of my mother in southwest Fort Lauderdale where there are canals and those canals in some cases feed than Their Way West to the Florida everglades and of course. That's where alligators hang out. And some of them sometimes get lost. My brother-in-law had been wrestling. This lady's backyard was time to come into the House for lunch. I had asked the Lady of the House. If we could use your host wash our feet persons they were full of dirt from the grass and the young lady had said no actually better just a spicer feed off the dock and then it'll be quicker and I went I. I remember sitting at the dock. Enjoying splash on my feet and looking at my brother and my brother's twenty months younger than me made his eyes get bigger and he looks down on my foot. I looked at my foot and I saw the alligator close. Its mouth around my right foot and I went to some degree of shock. The allegation let go. He caught the outside artery of my ankle and bloodshot out. Allah a bad money iphone sketch. And my my brother then began to grab my body to try to pull my body up and my mother and my mother's friend of course had come out of the house at this time and they were lifting me from the document onto the grass. The allegation had gone back under the dock. And I don't know how much more time passed or how much blood I lost but I then at some point found in the emergency room of a hospital where my brother was born. Only a few blocks away and doctors worked in saved my foot. Save my leg. There was concern for infection loss and I was very lucky to have for the balance of the summer. Have Gone to the hospital every day to get my foot. Epsom salts to save it and that meant of course not being able to play games at not being able to enjoy summer camp not being able to do sports do much of anything involved mobility and that deepened my reading and then with it of course my drawing and my reading and drawing through my childhood in and beyond began with comic books and then onto more challenging books More INTERESTING BOOKS. Maybe more interesting stuff. The right word say because books are wonderful. And they're very very interesting. Otherwise we wouldn't have these films adaptations of stories that now the masses is seen film but the the books of course comic books would come out once a month and it was great to go to seven eleven after school and pick up those books but I would devour them so quickly and then I really wasn't in the mood to wait another month for the next book to come out so I would just draw stories myself. The drawing worked its way over time of course into photography. But that's a longer compensation which I'm happy to have the most remarkable series of connections though to have a traumatic injury lead to more reading time to then lead to a particular niche that you've carved out a which is a among other things in your portfolio literary portraits. Do you remember who your first contact was in the literary world as a photographic subject? Three things happen within a few months time of each other. I ahead as I began to dive into. This world already studied photography. Formerly I'd studied at New York University. Got My master's there and I studied with the year track program at ICP International Center photography which has a partnership program with New York University and I had assisted. A number of photographers was continuing to assist to learn as much as I could and I done. Independent workshops with photographers. Both here and abroad to that point and within a few months of each other three things happened. I was very involved with the German community at New York University. My mother's from Humboldt. And so I. I'm very enamored with her culture. Her language my family of course and I wanted to keep that going so I was hanging out often deutsches Haus the cultural arm of Newark University and Deutsches Haus had a writer in residence program and the Director of that program had asked me if I would make portraits of those writers so every six weeks there was another writer from a dramatic country and that led to some early Photo sessions with some great great writers among them. Daniel Kinman who had yet to publish a book called the world to enjoy the success that it did went on to become the best selling book in the history of Germany after the Bible it was so successful in Germany that was actually read on the radio or certain amount of time every day overtime. And can you imagine in our lifetimes that happening in this country it? What a great great thing and his publisher saw the pictures. We'd made and went onto ben a reach out to me for commissions for photographs of writers here who were being published by that publisher in Germany. That was one thing that happened. Another thing that happened was that I actually had my start in fashion. I knew a number of people net world. I wasn't really right for that world The Whiter Hilton. All's who at some point I'd photographed had once famously written it. Fashion is for the masses in style is for the individual and I'm very curious by people have style Fashion is perhaps a different thing. And there's amazing amazing latitude for creativity. Some of the greatest photographers in history. made their mark through fashion. But I found myself in photographing for fashion years ago. More interested in the people who were wearing the clothes in what they had to say than the clothes themselves. Oh My F- tell me about what makes a portrait beyond just very good what what makes it excellent. I'm looking at your about. I'm looking at your body of work here and I should by the way pause here to tell the people who are listening if they want to sort of follow along on your website which is Beowulf Shan Dot Com. Spell it out your B O W L F no space S. H. E. E. H. A. N. dot com beowulf. Sheehan DOT COM I'm looking at your body of work here. That's on the website and some of the people there. Their faces are a world known Winfrey for example. We all know what she looks like. It's there's one type of challenge in coming up with a extraordinary portrait of her. There are dozens of authors whose works we may know but their faces are complete blanks to us. How how do you go about bringing them to life as well? What Right Greg Questions? Well I'm going to quickly finish up answering the prior question. Which is that through the fashion world. I was asked to do a story for Vogue. Nippon which is Japanese Vogue and it had a story called fashioned biography. Fashion biography wasn't end of magazine. Last page one page story on somebody who had been in fashion and now is doing things and I photographed a person who had been a fashion model went on to write a memoir about growing up as the daughter of a well-known soul singer and her publisher. Harpercollins saw the pictures after the magazine was published. Contacted me and asked me what charge for all the portraits. That was another foray and then the third was being asked to photograph the very first pen. World Voices Festival of International Literature which very quickly introduced me to a number of writers from around the world and sixteen years later. I'm still at festivals photographer meeting a good fifty plus photographer. Sorry writers from around the world with each and every festival that comes in it's joyous joyous experience for me and that that has fed that experience has just with each year Expand the world of the community with which with whom. I work in literature a to the idea of what makes it great and author portrait portrait. It is a very very slippery thing because there's no single image to my thinking history that's ever spoken to the entirety of a person if that's the goal of a portrait if a portrait has to say this is who. I am good luck features. We're we're everything each and every one of us has been ugly as we have been beautiful. We've had our moments and we will have our moments both good and bad in our lives journeys yet over time. I think it was Warren Buffett. Who had said at some point as as as we get older we just become that much more ourselves and we want to be free to be comfortable in the best of ourselves and some people go down some dark paths and they bat essence just using buffets quote just becomes that much more present but the positive elements of of us can be that much more present to if we can speak to perhaps that that one thing that is both public and private. That is wonderful that is compelling and if that person has something dark about him her themselves. Okay then that's what we'll speak to that. The wreck midst recognition is certainly there that this is a picture that's going to be made public so to the I. Photographing a writer. A writer is already saying. There's something inside me that. I can't help but share. I am compelled within myself to put. This thought. This burning message. I wish to send on paper and I'm going to spend years of my life doing just that because that's what it takes and I'm going to take the risk then of putting my story and therefore to some end myself out in the world to be judged to be received to be criticized to be lauded to be ignored. Whatever happens but writer has to be comfortable in taking that step and each and every writer is otherwise. That's that would never be taken having an author portrait to me is part and parcel to that. You're saying with your words. This is who I am to some it. Just as you're saying with that photograph this is who I am. I'm willing to take the risk of make myself vulnerable on hopefully a world stage with my work and I hope you'll embrace me for having done so I hope you'll learn something. What is I've experienced in them now? Sharing whatever that's work might be on some level Message is the same and then that photograph is part and parcel to it. This is the vessel that carries the message of my life story. This is my face. There's a story here too. That is a remarkable explanation. I am humbled listening to tell. Tell me about your style as a photographer. Now because I'm looking at work you've got bright colorful images you've got black and white images. You've got very complex rich backgrounds. You've got you know plain backgrounds. When do you make those decisions? How do you make those decisions? No matter what we do in life we have the same job. That job is to make the person or party. Who were that engages us to do? Our work happy in a certain way. There's something I make something I do and someone or something asked me to do that to make that whatever that's that service or product is in my work and if I've done that for you. Five provided that service. I've given you that good. Whatever it is that you've asked of me if I've done a good job in delivering that then I've made you happy. The customer to some end is always right. I see every opportunity certainly with an author to speak to what he she they wished to say and what that means then is that I do my homework is I can before I had the experience with the writer. I don't always have such an opportunity but with that means is that I'll read the work in reading the work. The book tells me what to see and I hope I'm reading it properly in that. There are metaphors coming out of the story that I can put into a photograph and I'll run those by my subject. I'll ask the author this. This is what I'm seeing in. Therefore that's this type of location this quality of life this type of background. This caller this tone am I right. Are you comfortable with this? Am I saying what you want to say? Are we on the same page? Metaphorically speaking and hopefully I'm right or we are right because if I'm wrong then that's okay. That subject can tell me. No I don't wish make such a picture. Okay no worries then. Let's make these pictures so the photographs or at least the art direction behind them are collaborations. That's very true. Yes yes well. Walk me through the story of one photograph here if you would the one. I'm looking at the moment. Is Neil diamond and the door out in the forest? I that picture or any other if you could sort of walk me through the pre planning specifically to that image. Sure sure so. I had only an hour with Neil to make seven pictures which is not much time at all. But that's what the job required. And so that's what we did. We did better than seven photographs but we had to present concepts that spoke metaphorically to his work. The pictures were being made for book of his called Norse mythology in which he was retelling some of these wonderful myths in history from that part of the world. And if you read Neil Gaiman you'll see that a number of icons keep repeating themselves. One of them is the idea of a portal to another world. It exists in Choline for example There's a door in in the home. And she goes through the door and suddenly she's in this other universe and thinking that as a simple constant in a simple device that appears in neil stories asked if that's something we could explore any said yes and so. I actually rented three different doors in with my two assistants. We tied them to the top of the car. And we found our way after a few hours driving of course at Neal's Property and we let him choose them the door that would be lead war and put him before it. A in his writing new game in is the gatekeeper to this other world and he invites that reader to dive into explore to take in the fantasy in wonder and and journey of his characters as they do the same. That's a wonderful sir. I didn't know you could go rent a door. But that's a I love that story. Let me ask about one other Michael Coffee in New York. He's actually very small in the frame of that picture. It's not your standard head and shoulders or trade. How did that one come to be so? We also have the challenge in life of making do with what we have and what we don't have if we have big budgets we can do all kinds of great things if we have the ability to travel as we don't now imagine what things are possible when we have the freedom and resources to make certain dreams come true now with most things in life. We don't have such luxuries the following things before we have certain things in our homes. We have certain things that are within reach of US within a few steps of Michael Copies. Home in downtown Manhattan. There were some locations that I felt spoke to his work into his earnings so he has written a number of books roten written. I photographed him to support a book about I believe the Work Steinbeck and Michael had also been prior to his writing. That work had spent a number of years as I believe the editor of publishers. Weekly which meant that. His job was to be a springboard for works of countless writers. Giving voice to what it is they wished to say and putting it out there so I tried to think of locations that were metaphor too bad idea. And if you look at the photograph you'll see the lines of the wall against which he's resting radiate out an up just like a rising sun and so that's the very very subtle idea there and what you're actually seeing is a beautifully designed assault reservoir on just off the West Side. Highway Canal Street. But it's been used for many photo shoots I. I learned after making those pictures. I'd seen it in advertising here then a recognize. Oh that's where we worked to it definitely. Has Its photogenic qualities in its metaphors in. It seemed right for Michael's journey boy. It's a beautiful setting. I know when I first saw that shot. I sent it to several friends in New York and I said where is this on the salt building. Another type of your work is not author portrait's but it is performance work a ballet or a fencing or street performance. You tell me a little bit. Tell me a little bit about your work in that world so we all need to balance in life and we have. I'm thinking of a film called. Shall We dance it? Was I believe a Japanese film that at some point had a US adaptation? And it's about a fellow who has a job that's very very tiring. It's very demanding. And he loses his wife. I think to a separation in on the train ride home every night. He passes a building in which there's one light on and you can see in that in that room as as the train continues People dancing and at some point he decides one night to get off the train and walk up to that space and he begins to take dancing lessons and he's very awkward and as he learns with this older lady than to dance. She takes him in his in her arms and begins to move him and in relaying the Pacers to him. She says quick quick slow quick quick. Slow there's something about portraiture. That is very slow. That's very meditative. I want time to on some level. Just stop we can have this quiet safe place between the two of us but life isn't always like that. Life is also a fraction of a second and things happen being lightning league quickly about the great thing about street. Petar photo journalism is that there's that moment out there that will be pointed that will be compelling be colorful. That will be everything and if you look quickly enough you'll miss it and it's not gonna come back something similar might come back. But that's Pacific. Moment is over in portraiture. If you don't get right hopefully you're still on the same page with your subject. You can conceal control light environment things like that can try again and I love the challenge then of quote unquote real life. Not Portraiture isn't real life but what's happening beyond your control. I can't control what happens in a performance. What I can control is how I see it how I frame it. How bright or dark I make it. I can control the quality of light as the camera and I see it but I can't manipulate the event itself. It's just a way of seeing that one can practice and so I love being able to speak to both ends on to either end. I'm supporting an artist. Which is really what I'm enjoying doing. I'm in my my joys being vessel for the work of someone else a portrait. Does that might making a fortunate. Someone says hey world this is a person. I just photograph. This person has something so wonderful to say. Please do what I've done read. That book learned roby excited. There are mazing stories out there and I hope you'll take as many of them as you can. 'cause we'll we'll be all the greater for having done so and that every great stories in a book every performance story to and there is something wonderful about a dancer finding that moment when that artists body is also a vessel for telling the story of choreographer or of the dancer him her themselves. That defies gravity. That does things beyond the capabilities of a lay person such as myself. That person is a superhero to super heroine too. I read stories of people jumping buildings in a single bound when I was quite small. And these artists do it every day and The artist is not a dancer. The artist does it in different ways on the screen on the stage in a song in a poem in a painting and sculpture. Whatever the medium is. There's something one another that's being shared and not everything that's being shared wonderfully is slow. Sometimes it's quick and both ends of the spectrum of the speed of life. Excitedly writers have stories and and dancers and other performance have started low photographers have stories to. Can you tell me one where shoot went absolutely down the drain a or or or or where one was was more sublime than you could ever have imagined I are? They're super stories from your own experience that you would tell other photographers though goodness yes and and I should say that. This question has me thinking of as because at times. It is tied to notions of celebrity and and celebrity is not something that drives me someone having a great story to tell us what inspires me because fame for fame's own sake we see is not necessarily a healthy thing for any culture certainly are on so. I'm usually want to to share stories because sometimes what's shared with me is private but there have certainly been photo shoots in which it has just been so very beautiful and others where it is just all fallen apart. The person who didn't want to be photographed to begin with and sometimes the energy directed toward me is not that pleasant. And that's okay. I've not met that person. That person doesn't know me and and what? I've been able to learn about that person before. The experience is driven by what able to read or see review study and so there are. There are levels to of course engagement and sometimes. I've had that split second with somebody and it's absolutely gorgeous. I had very little time for example with Joan Deon. She was kindly reading as part of the fiftieth anniversary of the New York Review. Books at Townhall I believe in two thousand fifteen and I was given the chance to make portraits of all the people who are going to read for that event and she was one of them and we had very little time together and there was time that she looked away. There was time that she engaged me. She didn't say a single word in the two to three two two three four minutes. We had together Sherry spotted to recommendations made but I kept those to minimum to and yet. Her eyes were so piercingly strong and they said everything that could have been would have been needed to set otherwise she'd need into a single word to me. It was all in is with such a beautiful moving moving thing. I had a similar experience with Ellie. Sell a few years prior just we did speak with each other and photographed him twice before he said by and I recall the second time being that just much more comfortable with each other he knew me by then and it was just this moment full of so much grace and watching. His face relaxed an open to me. Is Somebody who voted up to that point so many times and there was nothing. Posey about it. It was genuine. It was opened. It was loving. It's him it's one of the photographs of course in my book. It's one of the photo foot favorite photographs of my career. Who've been that close to man of such grace. I was removing moving for myself. That that's a remarkable story Photographers you know. Bring their own artistry to the work they do. But I would be remiss if I didn't spend at least one question asking you about the hardware so without going into too much detail. Can you run me? What would a standard studio shot would involve for you in what a field schuch would involve in terms of your kit in terms what you bring to bring your vision to that site short gladly. Thanks for asking. I do feel compelled to firstly. Say that there's never a single cameron history. That has made a photograph cameras. Don't make poetry cameras. Don't take pictures. People do and cameras of course are the tools with which we do so so just for those who are listening. I don't want you to hang too much on my words in answering this question because it's not the tool. It's what you do with tool you can take that ten dollar plastic. Hoga camera and make a beautiful beautiful image and you can also take a twenty five thirty thousand dollar medium digital camera and make a terrible image so very true. Yes so let the. Who'll be the reason why you you pursue it but rather what it is or who it is. You wished to photograph to be the reason you work with a certain tool when I work in the field. I need something. That's quick and I'm working principally with Canon cameras despite there having been upgraded since then. I'm still most fond of Canon five D mark. Three the mark four didn't work for me for different reasons but I'm very fond of the camera and an I'll use it for most Mike Performance. Work in studio. I work within five. Es are it's slower. It has a less sensitive ISO range however it is a very dense in its sensor and does deliver beautiful color in. It's an ideal studio portraiture camera. That's on the thirty five millimeter digital equivalent beyond that The phase one camera systems are brilliant. It's a medium format digital camera system with which I work from time to time and for film. I'm very fond of context. Six four five. It's the favorite camera of my entire life. However it's not been supported for a number of years and with that I have to have said sadly said goodbye. I work when and film then mostly with a Hasselblad five oh three. Cw SIX BY SIX CENTIMETER MEDIUM FORMAT CAMERA. Which is gorgeous in decades old and it works digital photography. Great thing but all it's ever tried to do his work and look like film and of course it has been doing a great job of that for some time when it comes to lighting then in studio work with I have worked in the past with Ellen Chrome with Norman with different systems But I- principally work these days with brown color and or pro photo lighting. Okay One of the things that the people listening may not know is that you have a tremendously a generous aside to your work and to your spirit. Your recent book author the portraits of Beowulf. Stand up part of the proceeds from that book. Go to a program of the National Book Foundation called Book Up. You are teaching lessons these days in part of those proceeds go to the pen. America Writers Emergency Fund. You've also got the author a day project Tell me a little bit about the lessons. You're teaching. Tell me a little bit about the author day project and what it is. You're hoping and doing with both no matter what we've done in life hopefully have gotten to a point of however you were measured success and having done so means that there is a community out there who has gotten you to that point. There's nobody who's done anything of any significant contribution to history society or oneself without the support of many people before that moment that time a journey and we now living in this time of course we have with certain challenges but we also have certain opportunities. I'm unable to make a portrait of a human being in this time. But I have this moment now to look back on my journey and say thank you to all the people who've given me so very much so the author a day project is a project in which every morning I post on my website and also on my instagram feed a portrait of a writer with links then to that writers books so that people can then buy those books or they can order a print author portrait or they can also donate to an organization which through this project. I'm trying to support an organization. The Authors League fund which since nineteen seventeen has been supporting writers in dire financial need the ad for medical housing food needs whatever the the emergency is the the fund has been there to meet. Those needs overtime. So that's one way for me to say thank you. My Book author the portrait of Beowulf. Sheen is another way to say thank you. I was very fortunate growing up to have fallen in love with reading and I remember very often running to the up running but bicycling to Monday library and getting lost in books. Because I'd finish the books I had home already. I remember reading American cinematographer magazine in Middle School. Looking these wonderful images of course films and thinking. Oh this is. This is so captivating I wonder if maybe in some point my future. I could do something similar to this when I think of those. Things haven't been a young person and being turned onto writing and all that it's done for me the further my education into into inspire what I've done with my life and to build community the book than is a chance to give thanks to that end and so then help us effort by the National Book Foundation to Inspire Writing by young people in challenged communities across the country and lastly pen America which has been a great great advocate of of me and me for it for better than fifteen years time now of course recently announced its writers Emergency Fund into with my having the opportunity to give back directly to young aspiring photographers or people who are just enjoyed the art form in which to stronger in it through teaching and through occasional seminars. In teaching one this Saturday afternoon I can then support that fund. That's wonderful you mentioned a little earlier that you couldn't pictures of people these days and so my final question is well. Okay you we are in this time of pandemic. We are in this time of quarantine. What what is your photographic life doing these days when we can't get out and do the work we normally do true. We certainly can't. It's a chance for me to take inventory on some level. The author a day project is forcing me to go back through my body of work and find a picture of a writer perhaps previously published perhaps not and put that up until the world as a way to hopefully then support that community as had mentioned. But I still have this impulse. This internal compel compulsion to to create some how to document. That is what a photographer does a record no matter what it is. We photograph or who it is we photograph. We're still recruit recording history from our perspective. We can't help but be subjective and photography in itself is incredibly wide spectrum of subject matter in tools and I have heretofore works princely with human beings and have had such a beautiful journey love the experiences I have doing so be in the portrait setting ruin performance. But what I've done is photographed still life and of course still life hopefully doesn't have the risk of being part of the contagion. It is something safe and it has its own story. And so what I've discovered to do now is to photograph flowers and in doing so. Of course I'm learning to see differently to light differently. Finding beauty in in the color of their texture their forms and hopefully when it's safe to be around one another and I'll have a lovely body of work to that end to share and we'll have learned something that I can bring back to the work I usually with people. I'm looking forward to that tremendously once again fervor when listening the website is Bay Will Sheehan Dot Com B. O. W. L. F. S. H. E. E. H. A. N. DOT COM and. The book is called author the portraits available. She and bail. Thank you very much for your time morning. Oh goodness thank you ever so much. I look forward to talking to you soon. Take care can't wait. You do the same. Hello it's Tom US. I am do editor of frames. If you enjoyed today's podcast I can imagine you would like to hear more about what we are currently working on later. This year will be launching a quarterly printed photography. Magazine it will be Abe beautifully designed inspiring publication. I personally truly believe that. Excellent photography belongs paper hence the idea of frames to find out more about frames into join more than fourteen thousand photography enthusiasts. Who enjoy our weekly newsletter? Go ahead and visit frames doubt photography. I would love to have you in our community. Thanks so much.