20 Episode results for "Mona Lisa"
Short Stuff: The Mona Lisa
"Hey welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh Chuck There's JJ over there let's get to it and talk about maybe the most famous painting in all the world perhaps sagged clown Hobo by John. Wayne engagedri right. Have you seen the Mona Lisa. I have same here I'm sure your first impression like many people was Sure Small I. It's it's impossible to not have you can go into it saying I'm not going to think I've been prepped. I'm not going to let myself think that and you will think that yeah. It's is two feet six inches by one foot nine inches It's a small little painting. It is and they have it behind some seriously protective casing. Yep You can't get a too terribly close to it and you'll get kinda close but not you know you can't just walk right on and I think we talked a lot about the why they have it. Under under that casing in our how the Louvre accepts owed. If I remember correctly yeah I think we covered that This is a little more about the lady herself They think for sure that Mona Lisa was a person A real person and there's been a lot of debate over the years but the current thinking is what's her name. Oh boy boy is Lisa Jarrett Dini Belgian condo. Nice Also known as Loggia Kanda Very Nice. She's a lady lady and she was a wealthy woman Married to a wealthy silk merchant and the thinking is that he had this commissioned to celebrate the birth of their impending birth of child. Yeah and it's bizarre to think that we don't. We don't know much about the Mona Lisa. It's not that old. I mean DAVINCI started at anything. Six fifteen or three is when he started painting. Exactly what I was GONNA say eventually. Okay so it's not. It's not so ridiculously old that that just completely lost the history and yet it is because the The GIO Condo family. Emily never took possession of it the reason that they think that they're almost certain that that is who it is. That it's legit Kanda in that painting. is is that there. There was a book written about it in the time that Leonardo Davinci's sons were still alive. And so still around a refute this yes if it was incorrect that it was her that she was the one who is seated there an years and years later somebody found a margin note. Somewhere in some booker some notebook that said as much that Lisa G or Dini Gary Dini. Sorry was the Mona Lisa that she was going to be sitting for this work. That Davinci was working on right and they speculate about the impending pregnancy because she has some kind of loose clothing on and that little smile is interpreted as ooh guess what's come in about to give birth. Can't wait so we should probably talk a little bit about the The artistry of the Mona Lisa. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD ED and throw it out there really. Are you crazy. You don't like it. It's not that I don't like it. I'm just I'm not a big fan of portraiture period period Not a lot of portrait's knocked me out like others other paintings do okay. I appreciate them for sure. Yeah but I've never looked. You did a portrait and been like man. I want that in my house so bad. Not a big REMBRANDT fan. Now so I think one of the reasons I appreciate it. Chuck is because as I recently saw decoding Davinci over Little Nova documentary. The Tom Hanks movie. He's got A. Mola didn't running around all over the place. I know this was This is even more legitimate than that. Oh Wow but they really go into you. Know the techniques that he used in in this painting especially this motto method. You have these very well known for which uses shading in and Some other stuff you you have to watch the Nova episode for it to be explained been but the the upshot of it is. There's no lines in the Mona Lisa. There's no hard lines Leinster's no he didn't pain the line. He suggested. Lines every line in that painting doesn't actually exist. It's all illusion created by the painting techniques that he was using on the Mona Lisa and they really go to town explaining this and it really makes it that much easier to appreciate. Yeah another thing that's mentioned here in the House reports article is the fact and this kind of stood out to me is mostly when you see portraits especially especially. Oh my Lord From that era is you have someone in a room maybe and not necessarily a landscape as well right or landscapes and there were portrait's and never between shall meet but he blended those two things together And there's a landscape behind the Mona Lisa and an aerial perspective. And she's very much in a big open space with so these mountains and winding paths behind her. And your eye doesn't always go to that because you're looking at that face and that smile right but That dreamy landscape is certainly gently back there. Yeah and I think what they're what they're remarking about is that is supposedly in imaginary landscape in that people didn't paint imaginary ones and their if people have tried to prove that it actually is an imaginary most recently pair of Italian researchers Olivia Nash E and Rosetta. Borka I don't do it nearly as well as you but they said No. It's this place in Monte fell tro in the east of Italy east of Florence on the Adriatic coast and they're like this mountain is is this one. This is this mounting. They said this bridge used to be there. But it's since been destroyed. This lake is no longer here was filled in by mudslides. But they're pretty sure they pinpointed it. But that doesn't necessarily necessarily mean they're correct. It's is still speculative but they have. They seem to have a pretty good case to back it up but is that Geo condo posed in front of that no no it just that he he He that's what he painted. Okay you know Gotcha. Yeah so so yeah. I don't think that they were saying like Sh- he made her sit there for four four years or that she was ever even there but that it wasn't their point is is that it's not a made up landscape. We'll now I mean I'm sure took a photograph of a right. And then just worked for that. He knowing Davinci he probably did. I will say that the Mona Lisa's is following you the Mona Lisa effect but she did not invent but it is referred referred to that way anyway. I know you're pretty Pretty ended this idea that is can follow. You sure that works on a laptop even it does. And that's a whole other short stuff if he asked me. But this This this Mona Lisa affect it that it being called that the is following you around the room and gaining that it's actually a misnomer because they've proven that the Mona Lisa does not actually demonstrate. The Mona Lisa effect did demand does is it. I mean I don't know maybe it was The fact that I got super drunk at lunch but sure I was sitting at my desk and I was. I was going you. You know heavy back and forth to the left and right and they seem to be following me or maybe it was suggested so I saw it that way. I don't know I I wonder that man. I wonder if that is because when I looked in saw that she doesn't have that effect I was like. Oh Yeah I totally see it they they some researchers measured where people pointed on the screener leaner pointed on themselves where she was looking and most people said she was looking pass them to their right about a thirty degree angle while it may be empowered suggestion for both of us who knows All right well. Let's take a break here and we'll hear you'll hear we will say a a little bit about when and why. The Mona Lisa became soups famous. Hello hello stuff you should know listeners. Do you want a new year's resolution that's easy to keep yes resolve to help. 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I thought that break would never come right so It's funny to think as famous as the Mona Lisa is but she was fairly neglected by the world until the mid nineteenth century and even then just like a small little group of French art critics finally discovered. You know this Davinci painting and we're like this is a masterpiece. This is an amazing work of renaissance art. I we haven't noticed all these few hundred years but it's amazing they they didn't really tell the rest of the world and people like the Mona Lisa was fine but it wasn't until she was stolen off of the wall in the Leuven. Nineteen eleven that the world really really set up in in took notice. It's very much like that. Cinderella Song you don't know what you got until it's gone. That happened with the Mona Lisa to think they wrote that about the Mona Lisa. Right probably Yeah August twenty first. Nineteen eleven there were three Handyman that Just kind of went out the side door with the Mona Lisa It took twenty six and this is kind of evidence that she wasn't that big deal yet. It's a whole twenty six hours before anyone. Even I noticed she was gone and Whereas today you know there would be alarm bells? Oh my second it was removed. Yeah But it was is put in the papers and all of a sudden it kind of ran away in the press. The Lou shut down for a week and everyone from Pablo Picasso to J. P. Morgan renamed mm does a potential suspects. Yeah they th. They thought J. P. Morgan was financing people. The steel steel like art works for him. Amazing Yeah and actually. It's funny that raises other thing. Chuck quick there's There are accusations against wealthy Chinese people Like who are funding art heists to repatriate Chinese art. Oh interesting there's like a whole string of high around the world that are just Ancient ancient Chinese works of art. And they think that some people in China financing it it was a G. Q.. Article called the great Chinese Art Heist. Wow well I certainly believe even repatriation to a certain degree. But I don't know if he should go to that length so anyway the newspapers get it out. Lou Shuts Down People. We're coming to the museum to see what was known as the mark of shame that Empty you know. Non Cigarette Stained Square on the wall. And everyone I went and went. Is that how big it is that little non dusty square yeah and then it's a full twenty eight months For this thing to finally reappear appear with an attempted resale from Vincenzo pedagogy and the owner of the art gallery that was being offered. This painting said Yeah. This is the Mona Lisa. You know what I'm GonNa make sure you get a good reward for this. Just stick around and stay right there. I'm going to go and the other mimic a quick phone call to the reward center right and make sure you get your rewards. Yes Lord right there reward and then homer Simpson just stood in place and waited for the Italian Policy I come up. And he He got busted and he got eight months in prison for this. It was a pretty big art heist but he was in Florence trying to sell it so he'd stolen from the Louvre in Paris and his defense was Napoleon stole this from us And I was repatriating reading it myself and I think he actually kind of got you know eight months as an exactly slap on the wrist but it's also not a A ridiculous sentence either for for what he got so or for what he did so I think that actually helped that defense worked. Do you know if you read it out. His two buddies. I don't know and I don't know if it would of mattered. Because he was the one that lived with it in the false bottom of his steamer trunk in his apartment for two years before he he tried to sell it. So I don't know if it would help at all man. I wish I had a false bottom steamer trunk those. It'd be pretty handy. Oh I thought you meant like a bottom then just a false bottom. Trump seems false. Bottom girls they make the rocking world. Go round kind of false bottom. Stop it can. We say that it's not the seventies any longer. I think we're okay. Okay you got anything else. Nothing well then. Everybody shortstop says areva dirty stuffy should know is production of iheartradio's. How stuff works for more podcasts? From iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP Apple Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
"Mona Lisa Effect" Not True for Mona Lisa
"This is science Americans sixty seconds science. I'm Christopher Dodd Yata. Davinci's most famous painting also has an optical illusion named for it. The Mona Lisa affect. It's the feeling that the subject of a painting is following you with her gaze to continuously fuel being looked at despite moving to the left of moving to the right paps, even rotating picture Sebastian law is a psychologist at the university of Bielfeld in Germany, and while he doesn't dispute that the illusion itself exists. He probably also seen it in the Sam army recruitment. Poster he says, there's a problem with the phenomenon's name a construct your son, so many papers on what people have literally started to introduction with. We all know that of these looks at you. And so on the full, and then he would go into our argument, whatever it is. But actually, she disposition picture doesn't look at you. He and his colleague horsemen conducted a scientific investigation of this claim by sitting twenty four volunteers in front of a computer screen, which displayed various magnification of the Mona Lisa. They placed rulers at two. Distances between the subjects and the screen, and then ask the subjects to indicate where on the rulers the Mona Lisa's gays intersected, and then you can compute a line that specically school mathematics here. And then you can figure out the angle what came out was fifteen degrees to right. So the Mona Lisa actually stairs over the viewers, right shoulder. He says not straight out of the canvas the key to creating her namesake allusion. The right up is in the journal. I percents in Las says affects like these can have modern implications too. For example, when building virtual assistance on computers, which might need to speak to and make eye contact with more than one person in a room as for davinci's masterpiece. There's still another illusion. That remains the mysterious ambiguity of the Mona Lisa's smile. Thanks for listening for scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm Christopher Don. Yata?
Dr. Mona Lisa Schulz | Connection in Crisis
"Hello everybody. It's Tracy welcome back to the you can heal your life podcast today. We have with us. Dr Mona Lisa Schultz. She's actually a double doctor. She's at MD and a PhD and she's also a medical intuitive and our brain scientists and She does more research when when Mona Lisa tells you something. She's researched it more than anyone you've ever known. I'm pretty sure about that. I remember meeting Mona Lisa or one of the first times and going to her office. And she has like stacks of boxes of how she's researched every single thing in Louise's bookie your body and how affirmations and insight she made in the book were scientifically backed up. That's just to give you a slight indication on the dedication. Mona Lisa puts into her projects. She also wrote a book with Louise. Called all is well. And she's written several other books for. Hey how's she's a wonderful insightful person. How you doing Mona Lisa read? I'm doing great. I am doing absolutely rate these times. Bring out the best in people. I bet you're getting a bunch of people calling you for a little help though during these times yes I think actually people want inspiration and they want definite concrete things to do to uplift them and makes them help them feel healthy all right so let's start off with some of those things to uplift them and help them feel healthy Sounds like a good way to start well. One of the problems that people have is that a lot of people who follow me have intuition and are interested in mystical awareness and win the world is in crisis they get hyper. Intuitive Hyper empathic. And when you're in this cauldron of crisis at actually sue trauma especially if you've experienced that in the past it actually primes your brain for more intuition more mystical awareness. And what to do about that? We have to balance our individual feelings on earth with the unity of the universe. Which is the right brain. We all have our thoughts and fears. About what will happen with my money. What will happen with my health? What will happen with Blah Blah Blah? But we also have I UNIVERSAL. The whole world is in the same boat. There's something comforting to know that we have a whole world of people including all the people who are calling now. The Universe is ringing. You right now is ringing because I disconnected from. Its Louise Calling. She's giving you a ring because there is no phone upstairs but needless to say the right brain which is the more mystical in brain connects to that world. All the world is in this problem and it helps us gain perspective not only is China Australia. Europe Africa South America the United States. Everyone is in the same boat as a result. Not One person can feel isolated than this and the whole world has a connection to the divine. And we'll find the solution. So because you are hyper intuitive and hyper mystical aware during this time of crisis you can balance your right brain mystical awareness of understanding. We are all one we all in the same boat. We all going to connect hands to feel safe. Insecure have unity so that our individual fair experience is deluded. We ARE NOT ALONE. We have a universe of mysticism spirit and a world of people who have our back. Well that's good and I just was reading an article and one of the doctors from Yale and the article was saying that we have to look out for all the medical issues that might come up for people when they're all alone and the fear and stress What do you think about that? That's so important because there was a great study that was done two years ago and it said if it was ironic as you can see. He's a lot of time alone separate from people with not a lot of contact and increases your risk for obesity for depression and your health equivalent to a few smoked thirteen cigarettes a day. And we're morbidly obese. Now what are we doing? Listen just listen. There's always a positive line spiritual paradox. You have to think in terms of the information the data but what does it mean? We have a united world we haven't Internet of connection between us and the divine think about it. We're not alone. We Cagey people would have been doing all the famous musicians and artists. Or what are they doing? They're doing facebook live. We got John Legend doing concerts on a facebook live. We have instagram lives. The world is now. You're no longer alone at home. People are visiting you so the study was only done by. If you had physical contact with people remember that old telephone commercial by New England telephone. You probably not. You're not knowing reach out and touch someone people touch each other emotionally. They move each other emotionally through music art so instagram so in many ways that study is no longer relevant even though it was done two years ago because we are actually more united in the world then before this pandemic and even though we are allegedly verily connected. I think it's interesting that information can be in. Contact can connect US Vira -ly through the web in a positive health promoting way so quite. Frankly yes you can sit home. Be disconnected from people emotionally. And yes that will make you eat yourself and drink yourself to death and be depressed and have smoke however have someone in your house teach you how to use a computer and you know you might fumble around and then all of a sudden you're gonNA feel the opiates the oxytocin the neurotransmitters facetime. And you see someone's face come. Faces goes the LIMBIC system. Go to the hearts and next thing you know your mood is elevating in your immune system and that data. That was two years ago is fund. It's no longer appropriate. That is positive aspect of this pandemic so all the people listening here. They obviously are using their computer. So basically reach out and touch someone that might not like. Call them on the phone face time. Zoom all those different things. So if you have someone in your life teach them how to be connected. That's basically it sounds like what you're saying and there are some people when they get depressed. They seclude themselves. This prevents us from doing that. We're cooped up. People are losing it. They're fighting fight about something like who took the last plum so the idea is. You can't do your usual thing of seclude yourself running onto the better. You know getting into cellphone. Funk we learn we have to learn better ways of relating we're forced to and that way a viral pandemic has become a universal health plan. It is forced. Us forced us to be more psychologically healthy and united nor families when it when actually dining rooms in real estate were less and less used and now through this pandemic people are dining together eating together talking together playing board games the world yes will never be the same. It will be better. It seems like all the impasse that you're communicating with and talking to you know they're wanting to help everyone. What do you think about their need to take care of themselves? Self care well you know. It's very interesting concept. We have cells in our body that have boundaries. Get when I DID PSYCHIATRY MY TRAINING? I only actually became psychiatrists. Because I could sit down. I actually wanted to be a surgeon. Joyce sound like a psychiatrist to you. Hello what we talk. No I wanted to be a brain surgeon cells in our body. They have a boundary. You got the inside. Which is the fluid which is emotion and the outside which is the rest of the world the private domain and the public domain? An impasse usually have a history of trauma and the EPA friend. The Cortisol the the trauma hormones make the boundary and ourselves leaky the boundaries in our brain leaky so that space between us in someone else is leakey's their pain becomes our pain. Our pain becomes their pain and within past. Don't tell you is yes. They're incontinent other people's problems seep into their body but unfortunately there anxiety and depression seeps out around them as well and so what it forces you is how to have more continents learned. Mindfulness not meditate on Matt and go home. I mean though that has its place you learned to selective boundaries observe describe allow rescue. And there's a twelve step concept whether it's addiction to alcohol eating sex whatever gambling rescuing pets whatever it is in that is or addiction empathy. And that is that people have a higher power and guess what you ate it and yes we can help a person once or twice but we have to know that this is my dance pace and this is your dance pace and you can't carry suffering for the world because then you'll predeceased everybody and then who will help them. They'll go on to somebody else. So what's important to understand is while you cooped up as an empathic. You're forced to learn boundary hygiene. It's a great capacity for people with empathy to learn boundary maintenance. Because you can't you simply can't be cooped up or people around you who are in pain. Great learning experience. A I know that you you wrote the book all as well with Louise. Are there any like messages in that book that you think are relevant in today's time yes actually all is well? It's really about radical acceptance. In the present moment we have to allow. It doesn't mean it's it's fair writer. Just you're like this isn't fair. Can't go outside this virus. It's about allowing. She's how we were talking about her book. Talk quite right. I still don't know that phone is but anyway the first step it's ABC. The first step is to allow push. Don't let thoughts and you go. This is not fair writer. Just it is what it is and there was a Red Cross Cross video when I was teaching swimming lessons. Which taught that? If you're stuck in the grass in the river the grass would tangle your arms and your legs just like a pandemic or economic problem or relationship problem you get tangled in struggle and the more you struggle. The EEL grass would tighten. Its grip on you just like the Economic Prom. The money the relationship. The health problem with tighten his grip. And you couldn't leave in paradox. Be You have to handle the issue of what you can control and what you can't to try to control? Everything is not to allow and understand that all is well understand what you control and what you can't accept what is radical acceptance and see understand that all is well all will be well because all everything that happened before became well except that the flow of time like the river that you're in when you're stuck in ill grass that's tangled your arms and legs if you sit there and focus on all is well all is well all is well lit the time pass. The tide will UN ravel the EEL grass untangle it. You're struggling want untangle it the river of time will and the president problem will flow into a pass problem and all will be well. It's a combination of acceptance understanding what you can control and allowing accepting what you can't and knowing that the presence will soon be passed and the river the tide of time when unravel will unravel this problem all is well and we're also right now. We're making that. The book all is well a dollar ninety nine the book so any of you that want to get out there and get it you can. Now's the time to to get it and and just take some of the teachings that Mona Lisa and Louise had in there and apply them in. The phone is about to ring. Louise would say Louise and Mona Lisa. Louise's first author all right. Well Louise and Mona Lisa. I'll understand that we are we stand on the shoulders of our mentors exactly and all that all that thought effort is kind of what what Mona Lisa Louise and Mona Lisa. Did in the book is kind of explain. All of low eases Thoughts and ideas and then give some scientific background to them like Louise always when she used to do her. Meditations or affirmations a lot of all the affirmations would be different but her little treatments and stuff. She always used all is well in them. So that's kind of where that came from. Are there any other insights or ideas that you got from Louise? That are Apple Today. Like right now. The I studied everything. She's ever done so since she's not here. I'll rely on you to give us some blues Messages I actually it beginning as a segment use three credentials. I am an MD. I'm a PhD. Emma medical intuitive my last credential is probably the most significant is. I've had a lot of health problems. The first of which is that I had one hundred and twenty degree curve and my spine when I was twelve and I spent eight months in the hospital eight months sequestered in two foot by six foot. Bet I talk about the health problems I've had in the next coming book for. Hey House called mystical molecules. How actually crisis transforms our brain for more intuitive and mystical awareness? So that's what's happening to people today. Exactly and sue the problems in my life in the promise of the people who are listening the crisis our lives and our bodies and our brains are transformed and one of them is related to my spine. Has Epilepsy and I would fall asleep. A lot and the medicines would help and then one of them wiped out my bone marrow and I couldn't go on it anymore and I had I went into this bookstore. Desperate after all the emergency wagon rides to the hospital and a book. You can heal. Your life fell off the shelf and this was one thousand nine hundred eighty three and I did the affirmations and slowly by Shirley. I stayed awake. You understand if it weren't for that book I wouldn't have life. I wouldn't have a career but it's what you learn is all as well and I love myself just the where I am. That's another Lewisham. Is that to crisis is an existential time. You are in quarantine but you get a sense of peace inside of you in many ways. This time is not difficult for me because I've spent my life in many times eight months in a hospital at age. Twelve flat on my back and other times trying to gain peace with this and it's helped me develop the brain to become a medical intuitive and in that book mystical molecules. You tool find out that this crisis among all the other ones you suffer before this has tempered brain for your unique intuitive genius and your capacity for the divine saw in these moments of suffering. Yes I understand. This is a pain. It wasn't easy to go through that divorce that crisis. But afterwards you're left with brilliance a brilliance in brain and body. You will only see it here. It feel it clear. Sentient cliff audience. Whatever once this too shall pass. Well you've been through a lot in your own lives so you know that's true for sure and had a wonderful life I my life. I have had the luckiest life. My life is charmed. I the way I feel about it. I really am that everyone going through. All this is also good. I mean there's gotta be lessons. There's going to be tough times and good times and lessons that we can all learn as we're going through this and and hopefully we as we get through it which we always do and always will. Louise always said you can't sit around and think say ain't it awful all the time you have to take a positive approach. Do you can to make the best clean a closet. Write a book writes. Poetry read an entire spirtual tax. Do things that you didn't have time to do your too distracted. You will feel wonderful that she says. Don't sit around and Mope Louise Timeless. A legend lives. Alleged well you so much Mona Lisa. Thank you for all your insights and hopefully you'll be doing some of those things reading a great book yourself in all this time. This is the best of time. It's the difficult the worst but it will be the best of times you have a wonderful day and all the best to all the other authors and all the people out and hey how slant.
Vincenzo Peruggia stole "Mona Lisa" - August 21, 1911
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He worked at the louvre as a handyman fixing the glass in the displays months before he would still the mona lisa. A french reporter stayed overnight at the louvre move in a sarcophagus to show how surveillance at the museum's lies the move did not have the best measures in place to protect the artwork from theft for instance stints. Many of the paintings were hanging and easy to take off the wall by many accounts peruta. No stranger to the personnel in the museum entered entered the lube on the evening of sunday august twentieth nineteen eleven wearing the same white smocks duluth employee's war he went to the gallery that held the mona lisa and hid in a closet until the museum closed then he took the mona lisa out of its frame and walked out with it under his smart mark on the twenty-first but peruta himself said that he entered the lose on the morning of monday august twenty first grabbed the mona lisa off the wall when nobody was in the gallery and left with it under his smock either way. He took the painting back to his apartment. The theft went unnoticed for a whole day since paintings were often removed for cleaning or for photos but the day after the best security guards realized that the artwork was missing and reported to the police. Police launched an investigation into the crime. The mona lisa's frame was found in a stairwell. Yeah well and the museum announced the death to the public. The museum closed for a week. The press jumped on the story which became international news <music> over the next two years fans of the mona lisa and lube visitors express their frustration with of the beloved artwork investigators investigators questioned witnesses in stopped cars and pedestrians for searches but they weren't turning up any leads the newspaper of peres journal. No was offering a reward for information about the theft and a man named joseph. Jerry puree went to its office with a small statue. He claimed that he you stole from the lou. He once worked for the poet. Guillaume apollinaire who had once called for the two burns down and had several small statues. I choose that were stolen from the loof. Puree implicated apollinaire in the mona lisa theft but investigators did not think that apollinaire committed committed the crime alone so they went after picasso to who was a friend of apollinaire as an had bought stolen statues from puree but after their trial apollinaire and picasso were let off the hook the investigation went cold though people continued to speculate on the painting's whereabouts some claim they saw it in brazil or japan some said it was in the mansion of financier j. p. morgan but borussia <hes> had been keeping the mona lisa hidden. He insisted that he just wanted to return it to italy where it rightfully belonged as napoleon has stolen colin it though it was not plundered under napoleon whether or not he was being truthful when he gave his justification for the theft has been up for debate eight in nineteen thirteen he tried to sell the painting using the pseudonym leonardo vincenzo he wrote to an art dealer in florence named alfreido jerry saying he would bring the painting to italy in exchange for five hundred thousand lire jerry agreed and perrugia took the mona lisa said to italy jerry that we see gallery would authenticate the painting but instead of buying the painting jerry reported for russia to to the police. He was arrested on december eleventh in his hotel the u._p._c. gallery display the mona lisa for a couple of weeks before it was returns to the louvre in january of nineteen fourteen peruta was convicted of theft in august of nineteen fourteen and sentenced to just over over a year in prison though he served less time in that art enthusiast and critics showed renewed interest in the mona lisa after its return turn. I'm jeff coat and hopefully you know a little more about history today than you did. Yesterday we love it if you left us a comment on twitter instagram or facebook at t the i h c podcast thanks for showing up. We'll meet here again again tomorrow. For more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or airy listen to your favorite shows and we're back at the ron burgundy podcast season two baby the pressure team win. Do i brush my teeth when everyone else does on holidays and sometimes i forget i'm not perfect. This is smell of your breath back. 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Episode 86: How would you steal the Mona Lisa?
"In what if what if I was a what if we had nine lives blooded pits ups or if money through on trees. They've Redid nappy back then. Some certain absurd medical. Hello everybody and welcome to absurd. Hypotheticals the show we over think. Don't questions so you don't have to. I'm your host markets later and I'm joined here today by Chris Ye and Ben Storms. Say Hi guys. Hey Am Chris. Hey I'm Ben so I try not to use podcast as as a platform to complain but some just real stupid happened in my kitchen today. You complain very often on this pocket. You frequently yeah complain a lot. Yeah I don't try to do it. Those thing it just happens. Actually we actually complain about it sometimes. Ironically so today when I came home I was very dark and it turns out what happened. Was that someone turned off the light mystery solved. We have a ceiling fan in our kitchen and Sarah pulled the middle string for the light and it may be the first side of the strings in pull because it immediately came out of the middle. Oh no no drawstring anymore. Not even like part of one. The whole string has come out and the problem is it's off. It's in the off position so not the coin up not only gonNA switch it. It's also always off so basically it's like all the lights are broken. Well then and I've already taken it apart one time to look inside and try to fiddle with the mechanism and I got close. I swear I got close to fixing it but I have not and it opened up again and then rewired it. I guess I don't even know if I know. The breakers are in my apartment. Or if I have that I can shut off my kitchen with. It's going to be an adventure electrical engineer right well. Okay that doesn't know if breakers that he can get to. I'd imagine you do though electric stuff I actually had to go our breakers. Throw you this week because you know. I continue to have heat issues in my apartment. So Milan lady brought over a couple of electric heaters. Just for like when the heat and goes out today in fact and I found out that I cannot run the heater and our microwave at the same time so no. That is a fun fact. Yeah one of the other only one thing can be hot me or my actually I did I take. I did solve my My problem a little bit so actually went to the lamp in my living room on those Kia Stan lamps And so I basically I took that lamp and then unplugged it. So that would be you know. Be Safe and then brought into my kitchen and just turned it on in there to fix my fan so clearly electrical engineer which is really. GonNa make this next thing that we're doing pretty difficult for me personally because our question this week is. How would you steal the Mona Lisa? We did this. Wants with the Declaration of independence do do you remember which one of us had like the best The best plan objectively mine mine was asleep over at thank make trash or treasure three which is actually happening now so wait a follow up. He's the only one that followed out. I think mine involved the president involved with President. I think I think it involve them like declared a national emergency. So Oh yeah. I was going to impersonate. The mayor declared a national emergency. Was My plan. That wasn't a good plan. A helicopter involved definitely a helicopter involved. I don't remember why I think Michael Bay was directing my answer. All right so how. How would you feel so first of all? We are not the first one. We're GONNA STEAL IT Vincenzo Peruggia. If I pronounced that correctly if I didn't it's not getting any better so strapping. He's already practiced before the show. I asked you guys if that was pronouncing correctly. And you agreed with me which I realized. It's not a very good measurable that I I would say that more than agree. We said sure which isn't really full agreement anyhow. We're going back in time. Back to nineteen eleven. So that was when he committed his good good crime so rather than reinvent the wheel. Let's see if we can just do what he did. So first of all Vincenzo picked his. He picked time. Well he can be in time so the loof were the Mona. Lisa's typically is blade was closed for the day because they're taking pictures of all the artwork. This was a bit of a process in nine hundred eleven because the cameras didn't really work well indoors so to take pictures of all the they were bringing them up to the rooftop for the lighting was better to take pictures of them so they closed the whole museums. They just like take the pictures off the wall. Bring them up to the roof take pictures of them and bring them back so they they're doing this process. I mean I don't look back. Bamboo isn't the roof. Just Glass Bang. So there's a glass pyramid. I think in the courtyard and yeah okay. So maybe it'll different. Nineteen eleven a whole bunch of renovations. I wouldn't be surprised if the Glass Pyramid was not there yet. That seems like a more recent. I don't know why would assume that. But I just feel like. That's not had an like the early twentieth century. They had glass back then. Okay but okay fine. Yeah alright points so so. Let's see how one of the most famous so he dressed up in the white smock that the museum creator typically warlike Puffy very thin February white thing. So you don't get. I don't know armpit dust on the museum on them. You very important to avoid that. Yeah I don't know exactly why you would need that. It's not like it's like. The paintings are hazardous but they wear them so he dressed up in that white smock. And because there's all these ITO construction people. And all these museum curator's all around he peaceably walked in the side door so he was in but now what well what happened. Next was that Vincenzo walked up to the painting on the wall. Took it off. The hooks walked out a back. Staircase theft complete. It was know non-christian Damn no questions no further planning no further anything so you may be thinking. Wow with the plan that shitty. He got caught right away right. No in fact the theft remained undetected for twenty eight hours It's worth noting here. That the part of the reason this was not detected for so long is that while the painting was famous enough to be in a museum. It wasn't like it is today where it's like. The Mona Lisa is the famous painting. It wasn't even like the most popular painting in its own gallery. Never mind the museum and it was actually the theft itself that brought it into the mainstream like it was the excitement around this theft. This very clearly well planned out. Sapphires elaborate lab heist that brought into the mainstream so those should be getting royalties. Yes so twenty. Eight hours went by and even that was kind of lucky on their part because the the reason anyone even notice it in the first place was that there was a still life artist. Who In this time was Painting that gallery and he was complaining that he couldn't continue his painting until they brought the Mona Lisa back from the rooftop in his photographs and then they went to the rooftop guys like hey. Can we get the Mona Lisa back? Or how long is it going to be? And they're like we don't have it like Austin gone. I like the idea that that guy's painting the gallery. And they use the painting to catch the guy because he painted him in the corner. Yeah so yes the suit. After that the the the police tracked down to his apartment where the began to question him and then the meal except his album. He had been working somewhere else that day. I was working somewhere else. The police okay. No problem earlier the cops except I wasn't there as an alibi. Exactly I was working somewhere else. Okay by after that Vincenzo. Kept the painting hidden trunk in his apartment for two years before trying to return it to Italy so his whole motivation for the theft in the first place was like man. France has the Mona Lisa Painting. Which has done by Leonardo Vinci Italian artist? I think it should be in Italy. He was gonna be the only person on this God damn crusade but he committed And so when he brought it back to Italy he tried to return it to an Italian Museum. And the museum onery tried to turn into. Just turn them in so I don't think we can just copy what he did. That one's not gonNa work because now there's a lot more than a couple of folks on the wall holding onto the Mona Lisa. You know it's behind a bulletproof plexiglass and constant security. There's like this little wooden barrier around it so like you can't even get that close you know without like someone starting to question like what you're doing there and some sources and source. I mean random articles that run the internet and didn't really fact check say there's even a secret door from what security guards can appear if they see something suspicious on security cameras. So maybe there's a secret door regards can pop out of. I don't know I'd like to. That's true in all locations. I imagine that's true personally right so I think we talked about this in the past but these high end up being a bit tricky to plant because it turns out they don't really readily hand out all the details and nuances of the security system protecting the most famous painting in the world for Sunday. So I'm kind of taking a page out of intensive book and I think it's a good idea to start with like. Hey when's museum not on? Its regular game and the painting might be more exposed than it's like high tech. You know pressure sensitive. Bulletproof glass you know can't get near it security and so. My first thought was kind of Nabet in transit and for me I started with the problem. Is They actually just moved the painting like a few months back? 'cause they renovated the gallery that was in. They like a little bit and put it back but that was like a few ago so and it had been like a decade and a half prior to that so. I'm not really going to wait around for them to move it again because then I'm GonNa have to might plan going to be quite a while into the future. Plus what what my plan for what to do once it was transiting was. I found a kind of funny what they would do. They do sometimes do practice. Runs for For paintings in museums when they move them around the museum so like the little cut out a piece of plywood in the shape and about approximate weight of the painting. And then Kinda do the route to where it's going to make sure it can get around corners and that they're used to carrying it and all that and so I want you to some kind of magic trick to swap the plywood fake with the real painting but despite quite a bit could not find out how to make something that particular size disappear so if you look if you google like making stuff disappear for Magic. It's all sleight of hand. It's like car cards and pens and coins and all that and then I was like okay. How do I make big things disappear and the only thing that comes up is when David Copperfield? The Statue of Liberty Disappear in New York City on a big show of his. So then what if you go box disappear and it was all about making stuff disappear inboxes? Eventually I'm not waiting a decade. I'm not dealing. I can't find how to do magic trick either because apparently that information is also not readily available online so I was looking for another scenario where the painting might be more exposed and I have what I'm GonNa call now my real plan so blue is art museum which means they're basically down to clown with whatever ridiculous thing people come up with and I have found the perfect nonsense to stage a heist absolute perfect nonsense so busy schefter run back what they did back in October of two thousand nine where the Lou hosted event titled Babysitting Petite Louis which was created by Robyn. Orlin so this event is an after hours live actor performance. That's effectively the weird French version of night at the museum and its performed by cast of three dancers a singer and actor and eight of the museums. Real life security guards some of the performance as part of this Explain how Buckwald US over forms include a lost white South African in Eiffel Tower boxer shorts in an I love Paris t-shirt a black singer dressed in a body gold parody of Louis the fourteenth corley outfits and a headless ghost in a black suit and masquerades. This is things are going to encounter on this on this a babysitting petite Louis tour says like like an immersive experience type thing in the museum right so it kind of starts off the the guards kind of leading you through the museum and they do kind you ninety museum esque things I think. There's like leftover tourists and things that are like some of these key actors. I didn't get a lot of Info on it because most of the stuff of about this event is in French. Google translate does help actually surprisingly good on some of them some of them. It was less helpful. But let's focus on the guard's involvement so so the guards are the ones that lead the group around which is not ideal for us our scenario but they're also part of the show they make jokes. They take part in some dance scenes and apparently also project short art films about themselves onto the pedestals of statues which I don't know what that's going to be like the short art film about me. The Security Guard looks at them personally or just like them as serious guards in a whole I have so many questions not the least of which is the whole thing that the petite Louis himself the titular character of this narrative apparently is a statue of the sun. King that cries like a baby until the guards go and comet down. That's apparently the payoff of this of this tour. Where did you say this again at the loop actually do this happily? They just after a one time thing or they not realize but a bad idea. This was a one time okay. Okay but I haven't even gotten to the best part about why. This is so perfect for our plan. I quote from Circle. I read the show culminates in a delirious minuet during which the professional performers swapped Golden Carville outfits for Security Guards uniforms name badges at the end of the show the performers swap. There's guard Air Force and name badges. I can't imagine they made fake name badges for the show like I imagine it easier for them to be like. Yeah here's my uniform. I don't care you know we'll grab it for you in a second and like talk about planning a heist here. This is much plant. You're now dressed as a security guard in the loom. Could just even if you're with the tour group you can just pretend that you're going to the Mona Lisa as part of the show and just like steal it in plain sight and be like. Oh we have it and just like pretend it's fake one but What really the real icing on the cake. This is that the show starts off as a as a joking nod to the question that guards the most. They announced three questions that the audience is not allowed to ask during the performance. I one is. Where's the bathroom? Where's the exit? And where is the Mona Lisa? So people are literally not allowed to ask what happened to it and with that my perfect heist is complete. He got it. I got it over to actually gonNA work but okay. It's a plan. It is a plan all right. Well Mr I don't know if your plan's GonNa work. Let's hear Your Plan. Chris yes I have a very good plan. I actually named my house. I named it the be roll heist and it is a six step plan. So step one Get a job at the Liu so actually like they actually have a very big problem with understaffing at the live so they like every day they have fifteen thousand twenty thousand people that see the Mona Lisa every day and on May twenty seventh of two thousand nineteen so last year they actually were forced to close the museum because they were understaffed and have enough security staff So they they closed. It is actually because the staff like went on strike. They're allowed to go on strike and they did. That actually went to their website. Too just like look at what exhibits. They had a like a notification. Popped up saying that due to strikes it might be closed that day or like certain parts of the museum might be closed so. I guess this is still sort of a problem so given that I think it will be pretty easy to get a job as a columnist apply. The supplies moved moved to France. And do that. Yeah and I don't think it for my plan thinking it really matters what job I get to one thing that matters is that it's just. I'm allowed to be there after closing ares because I don't want to steal it during the day. There's too many people so as long as I can be there at night than my plan is set in motion. Now the painting itself you only security measure could find on it because as Marcus mentioned there were a lot of information but the one thing I did find is that is behind bulletproof glass. And obviously that's pretty hard to get behind like it's encased in his ton of people round and they don't really open it that often so they actually do open it occasionally for mainly for like two reasons they open it and one of the reasons is to re locate the painting and as mark mentioned already they last summer they relocated due to renovations of that room and they just like moved into the room next to it so it wasn't that far one hundred fifty feet but they practiced practiced and another thing. I found out about the painting was that it's painted on poplar. Like poplar panel shows like wouldn't panel and they've been having a lot of warping and cracking issues with so what they did. Is They like reinforced? It with these cross beams and cross beams at first and then those woodcrafts means they start to have like insects infested in them. So there's like Rotting the wooden stuff so they did a change. I think they used Oak at first and they switch that up for maple and then again they got more insects say switched out and made a medal. But obviously this insect thing is a problem and they had to treat it with Carbon Tajik chloride and ethylene oxide to like kill the insects. But that's like one of the reasons. They had to open the glasses because they had to treat the wood so I was like what if I create that problem for them. I create a reason for them to have to open the case. Relocate it instead of me where I just gave up until your case where you're like. I don't want to wait there for fourteen years sucks so I started looking into pass. The lake poplar pests specifically and I looked at certain Beatles and stuff but then I realized I didn't really want like actual pests of it because I don't want to destroy the painting. Obviously you lose value if that happens and I want to sell it so I started looking bees instead so bs apparently can be trained to detect. So what yeah. So it's basically like the train them like any other like they're trying to dog so they make do something and then they rewarded for doing that. Thing and in the muddy reward A. B. B.'S. Yet and the bees case they made it go to a certain smell and then they rewarded with like sugar water. I like the idea that that like. They eventually replace drug. Sniffing dogs like at the airport with bees. And then your coke. They just like seeing the shadow of the person. I mean they so they. Do you do this at some places? I don't know exactly where they do this. But did you. Train BEES TO SNIFF OUT EXPLOSIVES. Gunpowder methamphetamine uranium. They also can train them to detect diseases. Like perk in lung and skin. Cancer and diabetes. Sting those people with diseases. Yeah right there. Well if you can if you can attach medicine onto the Stinger then you can have. We can have a it's basically Nano bots except it's their bees and it's on like a citywide scale we just fill Manhattan with like bees full of dayquil. And then if you have if they smell that you have like the flu or something. They'll just come and give you a quick little shot of something like how this is the worst because then you had the flu. And all she's got stuck by. Ib We'll be gone faster. I mean but I I guess that is not my plan if once you once you. You're the sole owner of the be like hospital. That is all major cities. Now you're going to be rolling enough money just to buy the thing out right. That's a good way to does that. Count as stealing speaking of hospitals. They can also confirm pregnancy. So what's this wrote this? The bees peas. These can't do any of these things but they have learned how to write the Internet B.'s. Skill is actually Eddie Leucopenia. The bees aren't actually endanger. They've been producing all right. Protect the bees. It's actually not that hard or it doesn't take that long to train these BS. Only they didn't learn this This folder sniffing behavior in like five minutes. So what's yeah everything you're saying is more insane in the last thing. I mean peace. Don't really live that long. So that's what they think but I also don't imagine bees are like pregnancy sniffing super dogs. So yeah they can stay smell good. And I'm going to use these bs up to my advantage in my heist. I'M GOING TO TRAIN THEM. To SNIFF OUT POPLAR. Because that's what the the painting is on and the the bulk proof. Glass is regulated like the temperature is regulated. So there's ventilation in it. So they do have. I don't know where it is exactly. But they do have holes in some way for the bees to get it so the bees can get in there. So that was my. That's my stuff. I'm going to train bees. Release THEM IN THE. Liuw specifically in that room that the MO he says in and they're going to seek it Melissa Okay and this is GonNa. This is gonNA trigger the early staff members to move the Mona Lisa. And I'm just going to let the move. I'M NOT GONNA interfere at this. I'm just going to let they're probably GONNA move it to that same moved at before It really doesn't matter where they move it as long as it's not in the same room and As Marcus mentioned they do trial runs. So ideally my job at the Louvre obt to do this trial run like you're only role or Cher perfect. Do other stuff too. I'm sure that's why you need an expert like if you if you think about if you pay one guy the salary each year to move the important paintings and then you save one. Priceless painting over his career. It's worth it. You know dollars dollars. You've you're on. How idea that the Louvre is like? Oh my God yes so much trouble keeping all of these roles staffs but we ever do without the guy. Was there to help us. Test removing the Mona Lisa. I mean it probably isn't just the only thing he's probably so yeah. Marcus was thinking that when during this travel take it but I don't think you're gonNA take it because it's Kinda hard as marcus mentioned to make it disappear or did you just take it and then everyone will see you take. It is really going to work that well. So I'm just GonNa do the normal trial run and then I'll move it to where they want me to move it and that'll be that syllabi in a different room and the Mona Lisa case will be empty. And that's those are the important parts that was step three is to move it Step four is to leave them on always there on display at his new location and let them solve the problem so basically just do not being wait. This is a plan to steal the Mona Lisa. Or or this plan to get yourself a job at inconvenience the staff. I mean they probably pay pretty well. Lou Don't pay enough for us. There won't be strikes also true but still whatever so step five is once once we've gone once they solve the problem they're going to want to move it back to Ron Location. And they're GONNA do another trial run on the way back so I'm going to be there and I'm GonNa be ready to do the trial run and this is when I'm GonNa plan to take my time. This is like the pivotal moment of my heist. And I started to wonder what would happen. If 'cause like everything's g on this one moment what happens if like the fire alarm goes off something and completely ruins my plan. I gotta come up with Blake contingency plan so the fire alarm goes off and everything everyone has to like. Leave the building and then like when we come back. What if someone like already moved to back and is just in its case? They're probably just GONNA like Tommy. Get rid of the trial run thing and then I'll tell me go home and everything will be ruined except that I will have already stolen it because the Mona Lisa won't actually be in this case but they think it will plot twist. This is a two man job. I had secret steps that I had. I did not tell you you fooled us. I fooled you. Classic Heist. Movie trope thing. He said US up with six step plan did four steps. You've already missed one in five so again miss secret. Step one. And a half shocker. You're covered in bees while this is before you really even released the bees twist so I'm going to have a second man on my team and he's going to be responsible for the first time they open the case which is going to be because it's made a poplar And it has like swelling issues and stuff. They really have to monitor the humidity and temperature. They have to keep it like exactly right and to do this. They have monitors in the case So they have like one sensor. That's close to her right eye. Money's Road I and then they have another one that's close to her right hand just under the humidity and what they do is every year. They opened the case to test this equipment so my second my job is his guy that tests equipment and when he says he's going to he's going to do the job he's GonNa test it. But in addition to that he's going to install arolla paper on the top of the case and the role paper. That's going to have to is going to have to unroll and be able to cover the entire height of the case. Which is I was looking at photos and it looked like it was around seven and a half feet high. So that's what's GonNa have to do and I was wondering if this kind of roll of paper would be noticeable in the case his like if you put like a grow toilet paper some things are gonNA notice it does I. How big is this royal paper if it needs to be seven and a half tall and I found this like we are? I don't know why the site exists. But there's a site that just calculated for you tells you ask you how long you pay to be. And how how many applies it is or how small you want like the inner circle to be like the role itself to be. I mean this is a useful calculation for like a lot of industries that make a rolled up things. I guess that's true So I said that the inner role is a quarter inch thick in dire quarter inch diameter and with a standard Like the thickness standard paper is point zero zero three nine inches thick so with those dimensions. The role papers is only point seven inches and as looking at the frame in the frame. Looks like it's at least in inch thick. So you can just hide by the frame and no one really noticed and this is going to be like a remote controlled things to lake you can activate you can have. It rolled out Lynn. Yeah exactly so that is step one point five is in Stein that role paper secret. Step three point five is when I was moving the Molly. Send my first trial run. I installed this role paper into the inner frame of the model. He says well so as just like a smaller one. It's doesn't have to be as baked but it's it's basically the same thing secret. Step four point five is that my compass the one that pulled the fire alarm right when I was getting ready to move it my second time and secret step six is when I was outside and everyone else was outside. I activated these rolls of paper and they unrolled and the one in the case just unrolled against the wall and a picture of the Mona Lisa on the wall. It's a flat image so skeletal different but it's like research into the wall. I don't think people know said well. It's like blocked off his. He can't really get close. Yeah P art. Critics are really famous attention to detail. Well they don't they open it like once a year. I know it's like I'd like three inches of glass. And it's four feet away. Yeah and then in the frame of the Mona Lisa the actual Mona Lisa. That's going to unroll too. And it's GonNa it's GonNa look like a piece of wood actually don't know if they use a frame for the trial run but I'm GonNa say they do in that it's GonNa look like a trial run plywood thing now. So that's what the Molise looks like. Now so when we go back into the building people they might think it's a little weird but they're gonna just assume that someone else had already moved the Melissa and that we don't have to do it anymore. They're going to tell me. Get rid of the trial run plywood thing and I'm going to just carry it and walk out with it and no one's going to question me not gonNA think of. They're not going to think it's the Mona Lisa. And that is the be roll heist. Damn I C- intricate that's Something big disappear. I guess you take it also every time like every tell you what to do step. I was like what? Are you sick bs on them at this point and just took the pill and just ran out with the painting? I was so convent's that when you were saying you know what if something went wrong while you were outside wherever you're saying that just a plan B joke and could have done that. I guess I mean you already sort of had like the joke in their star in. It doesn't matter. This is a part of the podcast where we stop. You know review each other's answers rewrite the podcast and then we record it. And then I edit and then Chris Edison's out and puts the fresh new better version on right and that was Atlanta's same into my planet people and that was my plan B. Nailed it. Cat It all right. All right Ben But is your genius plan and do good this time Ben last dry run it sucks. I know this one instead. That was my plan. B No. I can't wait to start over already hasty my heist so I've actually already on this. Podcast talked about how? Cool Leonardo Da Vinci was back episode. Twenty one actually so like literally over a year ago. What was that episode? That was the what he suddenly got sent back in time and I basically just said I was going back in time and hang out with eventually pranked the world. I don't now right I remember that. Yeah so so. Yeah Defense as we've established is a very cool dude and lots of cool stuff beyond just you know painting obviously and most notably for for my plan. He wasn't inventor there's actually in Milan. There's actually a science and technology museum named after him. Which is the Museo Nagina Eat Technologically Leonardo Davinci with my flawless Italian. You somehow put all of your fake Italian in your nose and talked out from the Italian comes from is the nose. Actually talent is the nose of language yes so including the two zero one of the the sections there. They have museum. You know the defense he won. He's he's really by the name. I can't actually literally can't. I had one of those and my nose now has escaped in the tissue. Now I have to get rid of. Its gross with a pair of editing. I could just stick it in there but I'm not going to go. Yes that's right. It's the nope not cabin dammit. Why tried but I have a section that just basically it's just about him and it's full of reproductions of his inventions are made by the head of the this group of experts who went through his notes and translated them and when necessary like completed them. They were not fully. You know working I made all reproduction stuff and you know as Marcus mentioned. It was stolen by the sky back in nineteen. Ten's who was this this Italian nationalists? Who wanted to be back in Italy and one that he didn't mention is that you know he got apprehended by Italian authorities. He only spent six months in jail and just widely in Italy. People like loved him for the fact. They tried to do this like this was he. Was they put him in jail? But it was like you know no Hartfield kind of thing right really. Yeah I got the opposite like I believe you because I didn't read that I didn't read the after effects like the guy was like he tried to sell it to the the museum. Dude the music. Nobody's on your crusade with you. Know so I think the museum was like yeah. We can't do that and they did. Hold onto it for like two weeks and show it. Apparently which is hilarious. I before they sent it back but generally the general population of Italy was like. Oh Hell Yeah Dude. What's like the modern equivalent of that Like a dumb crime that everyone was. Oh there has to be one. I'm I can't think of I can't think of one. There definitely has to be one though. It's because it's w viral video of sorts. I mean you could. You could argue that like bankruptcy. Kind of all the things he does. Yeah that's Kinda close because secondly it's at this. Point is really not because his artists all worth one hundred thousand dollars but right it was technically vandalism. And if he will yeah. I'll know I watched a video today of Some people giving a chimpanzee in AK47 than the chimpanzee started shooting it. And I'm like that's GonNa be crime. I think and I enjoyed it. So maybe that's the one what. How did this come up? A coworker shared it with being. I see are you sure? It was a real video. Yeah Cherry aren't just watching apes. Now CHIMP GETS CHIMP GETS. Ak47 comes up right away on. The goal is going to be a pitcher. Andy Circus I. I refused to. This is real. I don't know there's a lot of google results so it's got to be true. I I have doubts. Anyway you know what Point v Okay Anyway. So what we see here is that at least one hundred years ago there was definitely you know somewhat widespread support for Brita Mona Lisa back to Italy and this museum has a group of like scientists and engineers and whatnot who are all DAVINCI experts. Who I'm sure would probably appreciate you know. Bring us back in a museum so I think we team up with them and we do a roadshow take to Paris of his inventions and use those tests the OBAMAS painting. So what's the plan? Well first off. We Attraction Frat distraction. We're GONNA use guns 'cause events. He did some us. The chimpanzee with guns Notre Pansies. Hey by the way I go slightly more at More more than a Lincoln. It is a viral advertising campaign for the new film rise of the cloud so I got tricked vitamin I was Gonna say I actually Kinda River remember that. How late to the Party of mine? This a pretty recently a couple years old that movie three forty one July twenty second. Why two thousand eleven who sending. Why do my coworker show with us today? I think Oh was it. For the first time he goes the first. Yeah it was. It was on the rise. Yeah so yeah. It was a while. Yeah yeah he's been a bit. It's been a minute. How is this coming up now? I'm sorry I was just. This is incredible by the by the world. I mean read. It happens things just percolate for on the Internet. Good about when they come back. This is exactly the problem with not fact checking anything because it wasn't for the fact that I said on the would not have cared enough to actually fact check it out and reentered our podcast to find out I was wrong and then also wrong by like ten years. Ten Years Wrong thing you base your heist on it. That would have been impressive. Maybe we're suspect to be facts. That wasn't a video does on Wikipedia. Which bees can edit? We already went over this anyway. It's wicked beady. It's their world we live in. I'm sorry but yeah the answer. It's somewhere in there anyway eventually. Had Two main like guns that age. One the triple barrel cannon which is not it's basically executive science it sounds relates the cannon with three barrels so it was eventually weren't actually that cool most of them are better than this like it was lightweight to. I don't know you can move it around. And it had three barrels. Shoot at three times. That was kind of it but it is a canon so it's gone so we got that The Cooler one he made. What's in some places called a machine gun? I'm going to slow the role on that one a little bit so the be Roll No. We're not Chris. I just like interrupting your answer. Everyone does this is referred to as the thirty thirty three barreled Oregon Because the the barrels on organ pipes and basically it was like these three rows of eleven barrels mounted on a rotating like triangular. Prism the idea being you could fire the first row. While you're firing that really could be loading the second row the already fire could be cooling down in the third row you could be your reloading secret like the line. Yeah exactly it's not. I'M NOT GONNA call a machine gun because it really is just once again. A fancy multi-barrel cannon. It's a gun machine machine. We'll go with that. It sounds cooler it does. It does sound cool. Yeah give it to a monkey though nothing. They can't markets. We went over this. I mean the BS were pretty capable. Panelists again give us guns. The BS could find it because they can smoke on powder but they couldn't they have no they couldn't just no animals can operate this machine. Okay it's in his notes. I'm going to say that. In fact check it but so sort of the plan here is basically just like cosmic attraction. I think you're going to shoot at the big triangle. Pyramid thing or glass pyramid thing. Because that's like a big distraction. I don't know what we'll go with that. That's fine just direct. I like this direct approach. Yeah to the highest than me. Walking guns blazing pretty much well and then we also so. I assume that at some point we're going to be you know taking fire from much more advanced weapons threes on here. Draw the fire. So fortunately eventually made robots not like actual robots but but he called them robots or Ottoman or somethin'. The the more well known what I think is like a suit of armor that he made like a series of poison cables end like walk and I grew guy walks. Sit Down raise adviser and wave and people were actually able to back in two thousand and to reconstruct from his plans and it worked correctly which is pretty amazing. Davinci's really cool. It sounds like he's making a lot of things that he's calling things into your disagreeing with so I mean it one heated necessarily call them. These things people have called them. These things online. I don't entirely agree with it. But also it was like the sixteenth century. So cut them some slack. He did a pretty good job. All Things considered I think it's one of the people reporting. It had a flair for the dramatic. That's a lot of it. Yeah the amount tiles reading something about the at least being transported and people being like she sat alone in the container for weeks in the dark and damp. And it's like it's a painting bright. He also made a mechanical lion There was actually. It was commissioned by Pope Leo the tenth for King Francois The I basically just to make him laugh by like walking out to impose flowers as feet actually referring to this one twenty nineteen and it also worked which is pretty awesome finally for like big attraction purposes. He also made a tank can lead a bit there. It was basically like a rounds like sort of domed tank with light cannons Oscar platforms like firing direction the place where like slanted like deflect fire Okay powered by eight men inside of it who would turn crank suspend the wheels and apparently I love this note. He suggested that that he thought of using the horses to power for. He dismissed it because he feared the animals have become too unpredictable in the confines of the tank. Which is kind of hilarious. That if you're going to have if you have to die or dots the way to go right. It didn't have a major flaw though in the plans. Which was that the powering cranks when opted erection? So wouldn't actually move which so people actually so. This is one of those things where you know. You're in a good spot like as figure who will think this people think he actually did this intentionally. Because he didn't want to ever get made because he despite make him like design lots of weapons and ship he was at his heart like a pacifist so he thought that he intentionally made it not work so people wouldn't make it or if they did make it wouldn't work. Okay here's my theory. Maybe the guy fucked up like one time by putting drawing a thing backwards like I think. That's maybe more likely that that you know at some point he like you know flipped his gears literally. And you know we'll we'll probably more likely but regardless either doesn't actually work it will certainly draw attention. Which is what we need to actually get in the Mona Lisa now. Full disclosure. Don't actually have a plan to do that part. So you're you're so far as to shoot the glass so all right. Here's my here's my rationale. I think the Earth GonNa Make. I'M GONNA grab it but I don't have enough information to actually say how that part goes. I'm GonNa say you do that and I'm GonNa talk about getting out. We're going to go with that so there. Let's say you have the painting that you have distracted all the guards they are dealing with your army of weird walking suits of armor and lions and your tank. That's just kind of circle. How do you get out? We'll eventually also made flying machines. There's two sort of famous once he made. There's the aerial screw which basically like a big screw shaped that like. The idea was like four four men would stand on a platform and rotate it to move the screw with would cause the air to moved out and left. It took a helicopter but definitely doesn't work. Yeah it's the helicopter that totally doesn't work. That's the best way to explain it. Modern Science decided I. There's no way whenever I have worked that one nonstarter there was at one point so I made a flying machine like Number when it was a couple of centuries later with a steam engine with the same design that did work but with like manpower it would never take off. It's just not going to happen. He also made an Orniphoptera which was it was basically a it was plain like or maybe glider like with big almost bat wing shaped wings That that flaps up and down for propulsion and it it could have flown. It was in the air but probably could not have flown like it probably could not be human power to get off the ground. It could not get enough power that way to actually take off Well I might be able to sustain flight so I'm going to say that we either launch one of those start flapping or just put it sort of engine on the airedale. Screw and do that one. Probably go to the airless. Screw because they've got some more like distinctive look of the flapping right. I'm just imagining the while you coyote thing it's it's pretty much that but giant and also kind of hang glider also bet distinctive. Look what you're going for at the end of a high. Yes for important reasons for going to get to right now. Marcus Okay so you get in your area screw in your flying away and as we discussed these are not particularly great flying machines silent because actually even with your engine wherever on it. It's not actually going to work all that well to get you out of there so I think you make a big show of it. Not Working as her flying over the river seine which is conveniently right next to the Lou and as it collapses in mid air and people jump out of it using parachutes designed eventually. He did a lot of the Mona Lisa. Which you have already carefully put a waterproof container dropped out into the river where you have people in Super Scuba Gear also designed by Leonardo Vinci waiting to grab it and get away with it. Did lead scuba suit where this one actually does okay. It also incorporate a pallet for the diver to urinate in. He thought of everything. This actually is basically like at a massive your head and then it had basically had tubes going up like a cork diving bell that floated to let air N so it wasn't like like a literal contained tank it more of like a glorified snorkel but you know what it's going to work for our purposes once I had a what do Paean a pouch. That's all the information I have. I can't answer no more questions. But like what program you try to solve by giving the diver a pissed. I couldn't figure that one out either man. I really don't know like you're in water. Just pissed I mean. It's he was an interesting man I don't. He had lots of ideas. Not all of were good. I told you about the cannon with three barrels right like in this Canon Pouch on the actually incorporates added all his all of his inventions contained way. Let you urinate a very very key component. For him you'd be. You'd be amazed absorbent the Mona Lisa. Why did he gets me out? Would you basically just elected to use worst technology that you could do everything in your highest could be done more efficiently if you just did this? Davinci theme yes. This is accurate. I do not have a way to refute this however hey what about would you rather right? Ben Would you rather join a cult or start your own religion? So where important question? Where does the line between cult and religion and yeah? So here's here's the here's the differences would you rather? Would you rather join a cult and under say cult? As in a very clearly nonsensical bonkers crazy religion with a bunch of rituals in hoods and if people found out your this. Colt you be embarrassed by it. So like anything scientology are weirder yes ontological okay and then start your own religion. You can do what you want but you have to kind of commit to right so you can't make like a five. Can't make a webpage and just be like Oh yeah Benz God dot Com. And pretend and like I did it. I created my religion. It's got three pages of religious text which is just been written. Four hundred eighty six times in size thirteen filed. You find my old. Yossef's page Marcus. Is it a given that people are GonNa follow your religion or not so you have to bid is not a given that you have to put some effort into it? Okay all right. So it's really maybe you can't stop trying to beat make your religion until you get like five hundred followers and times like a lot of a lot of followers. Actually so I will say so. I don't know why I just thought of this but but it may not be that hard because I do know there was college where there was like a weird bathroom that got like Walden and people found and they made a shrine. Dane if you know in it and they got like constant offerings to it so if you can make a shrine Dane veto and college campus and get a decent attraction you could probably get to five hundred people relatively easily if you found something you know niche and you you have five hundred. Like retweets effectively have five hundred subscribers today to veto. That's fair starting to religion is basically just writing him fiction. That people believe right as well. That's a loaded statement But if you want to bow down to that shore so I J. R. Token could be religion. I mean isn't that literally how scientology started right so I must say you can't say you can't do it. It just yeah like would you rather be the person rank going who has joined a cult unless you have to go to? Colt means you can't just blow off and be like that's not a part of my life anymore You gotta go to the cult meetings or would you rather be the person who's like star their own religion and like now everybody below tag be like hey can i. Can I tell you the the good the good vibes of The Ben Religion where we have ice actually the religious. I'm going to go up there. You said that a little too fast for my comfort. You know what guys talk about something so so really. A boils down too lazy and crazy or having a very very annoying hobby right. That's really the sort of the dividing. Line here yeah yeah. Let's just like anything to if you join a you're going to be you. Don't get to set the agenda. If you say your religion you cut control you'd ever. Yeah you're in charge if you make your religion figure tax benefits to right. Oh yeah not many for joining the call. I think there are certainly offers volume religion especially if it gets big enough to for the government to care about I give you a tax break Starting to pile up towards religion. The more we talk about this. I don't like the idea that things are out of my hand if I joined the cult and I don't disagree with them if I disagree with them then well to be fair you pick the cult. You Join C. You could find one. You agree with. I guess I guess you could you? It's something that you could agree with your definition. Something Burger peers. Wouldn't Ya your peers. Might not like I feel like I feel like part of a cult is that you get new peers and think you're taking a little bit too far so yes you will get appears this is true a family even if you will but yeah you definitely would probably ostracize some people you know now. All Right Chris. Final answer cult or religion I think religion because it lets may be more creative and it gives me more control then I might go. Cult actually think could find a call to get behind. I'm torn so my struggle is. I'm on I'm on Chris's Bandwagon. Where I'm like I given the answer. Get involved in a culture religion in depth. I'd like to use it as a creative outlet that said I have so many guys doing hobbies and I don't think I can fit doing religion into my since my day to day. I could maybe make a Colt meeting. I can do the cult meetings. I cannot write the book and I can not a hate marketing. I want to solicit people that are so against my nature to like I guess the salesmanship of religion where you have to like really like even it from peddling like I really believe in what I'm religion. I still feel like I would feel Kinda like Imposter Syndrome. Where it's hey. I like the message of what I'm saying but like I made this up. I know I know I just made your sinus truth right. I would worry people over. I would be more uncomfortable with people over coming to my religion. I think that would I think drives me to the Colt. Also in the back of my mind I feel like my religion different and get past cult status anyway. And if I'M GONNA be in a call I may as well not have gone cold. Yeah you know if you can't lead them join exact. I've actually changed her. Mind going to call it. Yes all right. The three cultists podcast has come to interests you guys and some religion. Let's let's pedal are here. Are Hypotheticals cold over at? Www DOT patriots dot com slash? Absurd hypotheticals you can join our hypothetical cult that we have all joined and none of us are leading so it's kind of just off the rails wild but if you enjoy that kind of thing in one to put the money in the collection basket again you can go to Patriots Dot Com and support us. They're supporting the world to us. And you get bonus content. Every month for being a wonderful cult. Member going to rebrand are patriotic to culture. 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Case 152: Cindy & Mona Lisa Smith
"Era besides with serious and often distressing incidents. If you feel it anytime, you need support please contact your local across the central suggested found numbers confidential support place a show nights for these episode on your APP or on our website. Aboriginal and Torres Strait, paypal's should be aware that this episode contains the names of people who have passed away. The families of Cindy and Melissa Smith have given case ball permission to wear this content. Cousins just center rose and Melissa Smith had been inseparable since childhood the two goals but just one year apart in age and grew up close to one another in the small town of book located in Central Northern New South Wales. Just Cinta who was the younger of the two was better known by her nickname of Cindy. Shea was born on October twenty, three, nineteen, seventy two and was the youngest of seven children with four brothers and two sisters. Cindy lived with her mother Yona don't Smith and her siblings in a house on the east side of town. She was often looked after her brother Loyd who was seven years her senior. Mona Lisa's family resided on an aboriginal reserve. Now, the L. Said Woods village, which was like I did about two and a half kilometers west of Burke. Known by locals as the reserve the yellow said Woods village consisted of twenty cottages which were run down and overcrowded. It was entirely populated by indigenous Australians from two families, the Edwards and the smiths. Siblings cousins, and other extended family members lived side by side and the close community provided a sense of safety and belonging to its residence. Nine. Lisa was born on November twenty, nine, Nineteen seventy-one to parents June Smith, and dougie shillings worth. On the nausea was born have father had walked to Burke Hospital to visit June and their newborn singing. Nat King. Cole's Song of Mine Ole saw the entire. This led the couple to name their baby goal after the famous song. They also had another daughter Fiona and four sons. Dougie held big dreams for all of these children hoping that they would have good jobs and delayed successful lives. The close knit family spent their evenings together, dancing and singing. But when Mona Lisa was just six years awed Dougy Center, a heart attack and Pasta way. Cindy and Moaner attended primary school together before enrolling at the same high. School. They were both happy go lucky popula conned and dwell locked. Cindy was the nurturing top taking on babysitting Judy's and caring for her younger cousins when needed. Minor roles. So babysat her cousins and was sporty playing regularly Internet Bolton. When Cindy was in her early teens she left high school and Moan followed suit at the end of nineteen ninety seven when she was sixteen years old. Cindy. who was now fifth Dane often travelled the short distance to the reserve to spend time with no nine her family. The two goals occasionally got up to mischief together, but they will well behaved and widely regarded as good kids. Because there wasn't a lot to do in Burke, which was a remote ap Bac town, they would spend their time hanging out with friends visiting pox and swimming and fishing at the nearby darling. River. On Saturday December five, nine, hundred, ninety, seven, Cindy. Dimona spent the day together and accompanied one of their aunties to a nearby park. By the time evening fell. The two of them had decided to go into town. Burke was a small town with a population of just three, thousand, four, hundred paypal. It was originally home to the Nimba people, but when Watt settlers arrived in the area during the mid eighteen hundreds as traditional landholders would dispossessed. Lock old indigenous people across. Australia. The Nimba paypal battled loss of land and culture were hit hod by European disease and experienced conflict with colonists. By the late nineteen, th century, their population had dwindled. While some continued to live a traditional lifestyle in the region surrounding book others found employment on nearby. CADDO stations. In the nineteen forties, burks indigenous population grew again with displaced people from other regions arrived. The majority of these indigenous settlers, Wonka Kamara able from the far north of west of New South Wales and two they included some of Cindy Smith's relatives. By the Light Nineteen S book was home to a mix of indigenous and white Australians at all as I tenor and workers who worked on the cotton farms in the surrounding area. How? Aboriginal paypal in the community were often subjected to racism and discrimination, and the town had a hawk crime right with significant levels of alcohol and drug abuse. Despite this Mona Smith Sister Fiona tall case, fall a generally felt luck safe place to live. Not the Cindy no Mona had ever traveled far from their hometown. The furthest away they had bain was the town of Vanguardia Neha like hated ninety seven kilometers north of Burke. Both goes will well known in that community and had a number of friends and acquaintances around town. On the evening of Saturday December five, they headed into burke at around seven thirty am. As it was early Summa, there was still daylight when they arrive. Cindy, who was the smaller of the two was wearing a blue yellow and white striped t shirt black tracksuit pants and blue onto why there's. No now was dressed in black tracksuit pants and navy blue Hoodie with the words Perisher Valley, on the hood what and blue football socks with red trim and a pair Verona's. Two goals went to the home of Mona's cousin eighteen year old Daniel booth. Then hung out knee his house for a little while. At around nine PM, they were saying walking back to the reserve. At four I am on the morning of Sunday December six, three farm workers, and to their wives left AFAM north of Burke to drive to a small town over the state border in southern Queensland. It was still dark outside when the six of them piled into two separate full will drives and made their way to the nearby Mitchell highway, which is a K- road link connecting New South Wales with Queensland. Locals referred to the stretch of highway bits Wayne Burke and the nearest town to the north and Ganja as Dan Gurney road. The rural two lane roadway measures about six meters wide and is bordered by red dirt and SPA Patches of scrub with toilet trays growing slightly further away. After traveling for about thirty minutes along engineer road the driver of the first vehicle bomb Bowman Tex Johnson spotted a horrific same. A what nineteen ninety, five Toyota high locks you'd sat wrecked by the side of the highway with Dravis, sod roofs smashed in and its windscreen lying on the ground. Nearby along the shoulder of the road was a buddy lying face-down. Techs told he's worth at dull to stay in the car while he got out to inspect the crash. He purged the body and saw that belonged to an adolescent Joe. She had seemingly tossed from the car then rolled into a hollow dude area by the side of the road that functioned as a drain. The girl had sustained severe injuries and was deceased. She was wearing black tracksuit pants and a navy blue, Hoodie. This same outfit that Burke Tain Mona Lisa Smith had been wearing the previous day. Adele than cold out of the car window that she could say, two more bodies knee scrub by the side of the road. But this time the second full will drive had arrived tend to pull Daiva. was being driven by Texas brother Shane. Batty who had also gotten out to survey this sane. Tech surprised the buddies that his wife had noticed. They were lying alongside one another on a shade of top Poland that looked as though it had been neatly laid out on the ground. One of the bodies was that of an aboriginal go dressed in the clothes of manolas cousin Cindy, a blue yellow and white striped t shirt and black tracksuit pants. While her. Covent, her torso and up a legs, her pants and underwear with both down around her ankles. A. Middle Aged white man my next to her he's left dom draped across her chest. On one corner of the top Holon said a half empty bottle of be. Shane check go for a pulse but found none. As the two brothers assessed the same the man lying along saw that the go stirred and to appearing peering groggy but uninjured. Shane informed the man that the two teenage girls in his company would buy the safest and referred to them using a racial slur A. The men looked up and insisted chain was wrong explaining that the two goals had too much to drink. He then lie down again giving his original position next to the deceased teenager. Shane got back into his vehicle and drove to Wanganui to report the crash while everyone else I'd behind that the same. Tax again attempted to inform demand that the girls were both dead, but he became abusive in response telling tax to fuck off. Eventually texts the other bomb hand and the women decided to follow Shane to Angola Neha, which was thirty four kilometers north of their location. It was five I am when Shane arrived at Anglia and alerted the police. Constables Kevin Hoffa and Ken McKenzie said out immediately arriving at the scene of the crash at five forty five. They saw Mona Lisa Smith's body lying on the shoulder of the roadway and a man standing by the damaged Toyota a high locks near the top Poland where Cindy Smith lay. The offices noticed that Cindy's tastes shirt was operandi neck revealing her breasts and her left leg was bent at the knee lying at an angle to the rest of her body and exposing her genitals. Upon approaching demand the two offices sore he appeared to be heavily intoxicated and confused. Hey. was dirty and disheveled dressed in cocky should. Pants and work boots. He's speech was slurred as he told, the two policemen that he had been in the crash and was driving the youth at the time. Constable Mackenzie went to Calva. CDs Naked Body with an excess portion of the top and as he did so the men ost. They're only sleep on the. Constable. Mackenzie, replied angrily that both goes went dead. But the main continued to insist they were mealy sleeping. The officers asked the man to explain what had happened and way he had been traveling to. Hey responded that he didn't know what occurred but he had been driving from Burke to North Burke, which was about a ten kilometer distance. He was surprised to learn. He was actually sixty three kilometers from burke. Suddenly, he pointed at Mona and tell the offices quietude. She was driving. The man was identified as forty year old Alexander grant who explained that he debate drinking the previous day at several pubs in Burke. He didn't know the names of the two goals, but they had asked him for a lift to the North Burke Koto. To the offices that appeared that grant was still very intoxicated. He's ause were bloodshot. He speech was occasionally incoherent and he's breath smelled strongly of alcohol. At times, he seemed to struggle to stand up broad and supported himself by leaning against the police. Constable Mackenzie inspected the man's Toyota locks and denoted. There was extensive damage to the roof, the front passenger panels and is Saad. All of the ties appeared to bay in good condition but the re passages saw rim was buckled. The windscreen was lying on the grand as where a number of tools and pieces of equipment. It was manual vehicle and only had two doors both of which would jammed shot. Constable Mackenzie raged through the driver's window to check the steering wheel and saw that the case would missing from the ignition. The road itself was about six Mehta's wide and the sealed between men was in good condition with what table drain on both sides of the road. The spades limit on the highway one hundred kilometers per ow. At. Six am two ambulances arrived from. Burke. Grants Vaudeville songs were checked and found to be normal. When grant overheard constable Mackenzie telling an ambulance office saw that Hey, had been driving the vehicle he shouted out. No Shave was the driver. And again pointed at Mona. The paramedics can fund that. Both goes what deceased before transferring grant hospital for a more thorough examination. As he was being driven to the hospital grandma's they could stop in at the caravan park where he lived. So he could tell his wife what had happened but the ambulance officer refused. A second ambulance transported the goes buddies to book to be autopsied while a tow truck took the Toyota horlock's to Ango up police station. By seven thirty am a detective from book named Padar as men had arrived at the crash thought. Detective as men examined the scene and noticed a second empty bottle of be in addition to the one on the top Poland that was half consumed as well as an almost empty bottle of rum inside the vehicle. Constable Mackenzie drew a detailed sketch of the sod including measurements of the road the proximity of the buddies to the vehicle and skid marks left by the tires. He laid a SOM is how the crash had unfolded in a statement. Quote. As the vehicle traveled along straight portion of roadway about two hundred and sixty maters off the Burke Sixty Three D. Maka peg. The drama has lost control of the vehicle and the Beagle has left the left side of the roadway and troubled with the knee Nissan. Wills. In the gravel burr distance of approximately thirty two made his. The vehicle has then lead to the center of the ride why in a curve for distance of about thirty six maters before veering to the near side of the Roadway Again The vehicle has again left the roadway on the western side and traveled a distance of thirty five days in a left hand abroad and then rolled over. The vehicle road once and came to rest on its wheels again neither the of the big men and two then rolled back down the slide embankment of the roadway showed up and stopped on the edge of the lot scrub. The vehicle is expected to pay a total rod off as a result of the accident. Alexander Grant was examined at the hospital where it was confirmed that he had only sustained and knock to his head and Grizedale. Bows. Testing revealed, he had a blood alcohol content of point one, five, nine more than three times the legal limit in Australia. Grant was forty years old and two grown up in Hamilton New Zealand. After finishing school, he took up intimate and work on farms and construction sauts. By nineteen seventy, he'd been married and divorced and he moved to Australia Nineteen, seventy, seven at the age of thirty. He had doc head that he combed back over his head and a thin face and to build and was fake ten inches toll. For, a time grant resided in the northern New South Wales ten of Moorea where he worked various jobs in excavation. By the early nineteen nineties, he'd had a number of in Kansas with the police due to his patent of drinking and driving. In Ladakh tyrod nineteen eighty he was picked up for drunk driving and had he's drive as Lawson's disqualified for three months. The following month. He was again arrested for driving while drunk and had a blood alcohol rating of more than twice the legal limit. He had six months to he. Lawson's disqualification was placed on a good behaviour bond for three years and fond fifteen hundred dollars. Two months later in February nineteen, ninety, one grant was booked facilitating. Maven no he was still disqualified from driving. The charge was dismissed after no concrete proof could be offered that hey, was exceeding the speed limit. In May nineteen, ninety three grant was arrested for driving while disqualified and was fond eight hundred dollars and disqualified from driving until the end of November nineteen, eighty four. In mid nineteen, ninety-seven grant moved to burke way he resided in a caravan park and worked as an itinerant excavate draw. At the time of the crash, he was employed at a cotton gene in North Burke where he excavated irrigation channels. Despite telling the ambulance office that he had a wife grant was unmarried and to own next to nothing in terms of assets. While he was in hospital on the morning of December seeks nineteen ninety-seven grant provided. He's I bishop. Police statement. Hey claimed that is he was making a phone call from POB in burke the previous, not the two goals had approached and asked him for a lift to Northberg. Hey a great, and they all piled into his youth leaving Burke at around eleven pm. Grant was in that drives say Cindy was next to him in the middle and Mona he identified as quote the big ago was on the end. As they were travelling north grant alleged that the big ago. Steve She could have a turn driving. He said he initially refused, but then agreed upon seeing how little traffic there was. Mona nicely stayed under the speed limit going between seventy and ninety kilometers per hour and was a smooth steady draw. Grant claimed that at one stage, she sped up to the limit of one hundred at which point he told her to slow down and grabbed at the steering wheel. Off She had driven for approximately thirty to forty kilometers they pulled over to have a drink and a cigarette. died then turned around to head back to burke and to grant said, Mona took the wheel again? Suddenly, the vehicle had feed though grin had no what D. WHY? Hey estimated at the time of the crash was a the between one and two im or two went three am. As this meant a minimum of two hours had passed between the three of them laving book and the crash taking place there was a significant chunk of time that grant was unable or unwilling to account for. One questioned about the alcohol he had consumed grant said he'd had. He's I drink at around five thirty or six am the previous day at the carrier Zombie Hotel in Burke. He hadn't kept Cam but he believed he drunk between six and ten meters of be h measuring two hundred and eighty five milliliters. The equivalent of one point. One Standard Drinks. He's lost to drink had been at about eleven pm Mo midnight, which was a bottle of be he consumed wall dropping with the to goes. Grant denied drinking between the time of the crash and when the police arrived. He was released from the hospital by light morning and went to book police station to provide another statement to detective payday Rasmin. Grant denied making sexual advances to weigh the go the claimed that after the crash cindy had come onto him. Grand said he had crawled out through the passenger door and so her lying back on that top pulling her clothes off and asking, do you want me now? Hey allegedly ignored her and instead went to check on Mona seemingly paint thrown from the vehicle. When he asked if she was all right, she groaned in response prompting him to believe she was fawn. Grant claim t then joined Cyndi on the top and decided to have a be. The interview concluded at Twelve, twenty? PM. Detective has been told grant that he would make further inquiries about the Madda and speak to him again delighted date. Adding Quart. If, you leave town. Let me know where I can contact you. Grant replied. Yeah, it might be a good idea to get away for a wall I'll let you know where I'll be. That afternoon dawn and June Smith viewed the victim's bodies at Burke Hospital and confirmed that they were their orders Cindy and Dimona. News of the tragedy spread throughout book ended ten became gripped by despair. When it was discovered, police had an arrested the man involved in the crash this. Et quickly turned to anger. Racing events in the region had already led to a somewhat fraught relationship between the indigenous community and local law enforcement. Several. Months earlier on August six, nine, eighty-seven at twenty, seven year old aboriginal man named Lloyd Aboni was arrested in the nearby town of Burana after breaching he's bow conditions. Hey. was taken into custody and Fan to dead just ninety five minutes laid off with police saying they had found his buddy suspended by the neck with a football salk. Lloyd's friends and Family Suspected that the death was not a suicide though this theory was dismissed in an official inquiry. After loyd funeral on August fifteen a violent riot broke out between members of Barajas Indigenous Community, and the police. Although brew Warren was about one hundred kilometers east of Burke. It wasn't uncommon the police officers in the region to work cases across various towns. One of the offices injured in the riot detective Sergeant Von Raid was assigned to investigate Cindy and minus Smith steps alongside detective as men. In a book about the case Todd Odinga Road Author Richard Stanton argues that the subsequent bad blood between police and the indigenous community meant that Burke police were unhappy about having to investigate the fatal crash several months laid off. This view is shared by some of Cindy and Mona's family members. On. The nod of December six less than twenty, four hours off the Cindy and Mona's deaths Alexander, grant traveled to Ninja in a town almost two hundred kilometers southeast of Berg. Off, the grants was towed to the police station that was later transferred back to the farm in North Burke where he was employed as it actually belonged to grant employers who had been lacing at the him. At Three PM on Sunday December six at crime scene off the saw went to the property to photograph the vehicle. It was examined again, the following day by Senior Constable John Ludwig of the Crime Scene Unit physical evidence section. Hey noted that the roof had been crushed down into the top of the dravis eight and the middle of the steering wheel. Senior. Constable Ludwig also visited the crash sought to take further photographs. Detectives in Book Pace together the events leading up to the crash. Grant had said, Hey, spent the morning of Saturday December five working at the cotton gin in Northberg until he's excavator brought down. At two thirty PM he went to the Oxford Hotel Lean town in search of someone who could give him a replacement parts to repair the excavator. despond originally telling the police he didn't start drinking until around five thirty am `Basta at the Oxford tell confirmed he drunk seeks bees in a two hour period. From there, he went to two more pubs drinking a beer age before returning to the Oxford Hotel where he had eight more. Iva Six hours, he had consumed six dane bees or seventeen point six ended drinks. Throughout the evening a number of witnesses had saint cindy and Moan in Burke though only two were interviewed by police. fifteen-year-olds, betty, yen Edwards, and Karen Johnson provided statements that they'd seen Cindy and Mona with grant on the nodding question. At Around Eight Fifteen PM Betty Anne and Karen had been walking in the direction of the reserve when a what man pulled over in at Toyota high locks and Dolphin DNA live. They declined but Cindy and Mona who was sitting nearby outside the home of a friend ran UVA. Diaz to the dry he would take them across to a levy that mark the crossing point between Burke and their reserve. Betty and described the drive off as somewhat slow and adobe as though he was drunk. When he reached across to open the car door, she saw half a carton of be next to him and a stubby in his hand. Betty Yan believed that the man. With. The goals, but they were seen in the same area about fifteen minutes later up by one of Cindy's brothers who was walking home from visiting an anti. At nine pm they were also spotted by known his cousin Daniel both heading to the reserve on foot. Neither of these men were interviewed by investigators. After grant was saying speaking with the girls that eight fifteen he went back to the Oxford. Hotel. To buy a six pack of beer then went to the carriers arms hotel where he drank six glasses of bourbon and coke and full more BS. He left at around on thirty PM and was next Sane Hyphen Elida at the riverview Ho. Toh. A bomb and said that grant had entered alone but he thought he saw an indigenous go waiting for him by the doorway. Grant bought half a bottle of rum, two bottles of coke and another six pack of beer. In total he drunk the equivalent of thirty standard drinks throughout the day and at half a bottle of rum and twelve Dhabi's of be in his possession. Experienced pathologist Dr Clive Pringle traveled more than three hundred seventy kilometers from the city of Dabo to perform cindy and Mona's autopsies. Hey concluded that Mona who was recovered face down on the shoulder of the road had suffered severe head injuries and internal bleeding causing her to pass away quickly following the crash. Cindy who was banned on the top. Holand had deep abrasions across her face chest abdomen and back. Dr Pringle found draw a substance on her arena legs, which he thought could be seminal fluid. He took swabs of the substance which would give into a scientific officer and transferred to the Department of forensic biology testing. Cindy had suffered a perforated liver and a lodge laceration to her blaauw leading to severe hemorrhaging and Ted to a major muscle in the lower abdomen that is crucial to walking. Dr Pringle noted that while she may not have died immediately she would have succumbed to her injuries quickly and it was highly unlikely. She was conscious following the crash. Hey. Concluded that neither of the goes had been wearing seatbelts. The fundings from the autopsies would not pass along to author of the goals families. The only official information they were given regarding Cindy and Mona's death was a coroner's report. Off Diverse Saving Doctor Pringle's report detectives as been and arrayed. Wearing aligned to believe that Mona had bang driving grants you'd as he had claimed. The severity of her injuries combined with significant damage to the vehicles drive his Saad and grants. A lack of waring's indicated to them that grant was telling the truth. At seven PM on Tuesday December. Right the two detectives travelled to England to interview grant again. He was wearing the same clothes that he'd had on during the crash and was staying at a hotel. Grant claimed that he's wife had kicked him out for having Bain with Cindy and Mona and the detectives noted that he appeared to being toxic aided. Dane born team that they wished to discuss the crash but hey, requested the compensation be postponed until the following morning as he was exhausted. The detectives agreed and collected him early on Wednesday December non for an interview at the police station. The offices grew grand a bad. He's alcohol consumption the previous Saturday. Hey acknowledged obeying pretty drunk by the time hanging chanted Cindy and Mona but denied drinking a bottle of rum that was found nearly empty in his vehicle. He said that following the crash hey, and Cindy had both gone doubt of the passenger side door then Cindy had stood and asked for be. He gave her the bottle that was laid up and on the top Poland and Dr Drinking some she propositioned him. Granting insisted he had not placed the top pole and on the ground and that Cindy had walked over to it and to lie down of her own accord. He didn't remember much. And suggested he had black de until he was awoken by the bomb workers who came across the same. Grant. Again, claimed Cindy undressed herself and that he'd had no sexual contact with author of the goes. He said that the one mistake he made that not was not checking whether the Mona had her draw Lawson's. The interview concluded off the two and a half hours. It was another week before grant was officially charged. Rather than taking him back to Burke police made the decision to charge him in Lincoln. On Wednesday December six Dane. Hey appeared in the lingen courthouse charged with two counts of willful neglect or misconduct causing grievous bodily and allowing an unlicensed to drive out to drive. He's motor vehicle. In nineteen ninety seven there was a maximum penalty of two years in prison for age of the willful neglect charges. The punishment for permitting unlicensed individual to drive was a one thousand dollar fine and up to five hundred hours community service. Grant was ordered to appear in Burke local court in two months time to winter play. He was not tagging custody and was permitted to leave the area following these charges. Police were instructed not to reveal details of the charges, laving Cindy and Mona's families uncertain as to what the exact declarations against him were. A joint funeral was held for Cindy into my at the Church of the Holy Spirit in book. Two hearses carried the goals coffins through the town and approximately six hundred mourners gathered to pay their respects with students from the town's high school filming a god of Ona out. So on the church. The majority of the people who attended the funeral wearing indigenous. Cousins were laid to rest side by side in the book cemetry under matching Black Mabo head. Stein's atoned with trains. Rosary bathes and flowers. Nine assist up. The ONA would delight us say that shake could recall little about the service as her memory was hazy when it came to events following her sister's death. Some people in Burke feed that there would be retribution from the indigenous community that not with the room is spreading that businesses would be firebombed. But this did not eventuate. The goals, deaths, and grants involvement received almost no attention from the media. On Monday December twenty one, the Sydney. Morning. Herald published an article Todd two deaths and outback silence. Journalists Deborah Cameron interviewed Cindy and Mona's mothers for the pace with both the women stating they had been told very little about the crash, how that orders had died or the investigation. Dawn Smith Cindy's Melva shed her belief that police were withholding information because they didn't want to stir up trouble in town. Not, the silence had the adverse effect but creating an atmosphere of rumor and suspicion. 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That's article DOT COM slash case file to get fifty dollars off your first purchase of one hundred dollars or more. Alexander grant had little money and almost the no assets but in January nineteen, Ninety, eight, one of his former employees agreed to fund his defense. DNR identified employer was this girl is being from Old Sydney family money and had decided to pay for grants legal phase out of a sense of quite hot Christian values. Leading Sydney, Baraci, Anthony Quinlan was hired to represent grant at an expensive right said to be beyond the income of most average people. Later, that month grant writing you statement about the crash, he's legal tame, which was republished in full enrich and Stanton's book and Gunja. Road. Despite telling police, he had a wife grant described himself as single, but otherwise stock too many of his original claims. He stated that he's intoxication had probably contributed to him making the young characteristic decision to give Cindy into minus Smith lift and letting. Mona drive he's vehicle. Grant said that after driving for some distance, they start to have a drink. Hey claimed that the goals pulled some rum into the bottles of coke he had purchased before the decision was made to head hyme. had been steering the Biko steadily up until that point, but suddenly veered off the road possibly to avoid a kangaroo. Do you road over then landed on its wheels. Grant retracted previous claims. He'd made about Cindy, undressing herself and propositioning him stating now that he didn't recall this happening. Yet, he said that he did remember checking to save Mona was alright. After that point he had a gap in his memory until the farmworkers stumbled across the scene of the crash at both thirty I am. Barracuda Anthony Quinn Quinlan accompanied his client to book local court on Monday February Fifth Dane Wet Grin and to to play of not guilty to all three charges against him. Although farm employees Shane Body had been one of the first people to discover the crash sought police didn't speak with him until three months off to the incident. Author Richard Stanton has theorized that this may have pain because Shane was a seasonal worker and investigators were unable to track him down only up. On March nineteen ninety eight Shane provided a sworn statement at debt police station located about six hundred and eighty kilometers southwest of Burke. Shane's description of the same featured some striking differences to the one described by responding police and Dan. Bula. Offices. The offices had inherited that Cindy's paints had been pulled down and her Teixeira was lifted up exposing almost her entire. While her right leg was stretched out striding front of her her left leg was bent at the knee and had bullen. Atwood's. When Shane had encountered the scene more than an hour earlier. Cindy's pants and underwear were around her ankles, but her Teixeira was pulled down. Feeling her chest and tore cy. Shane also that both of Cindy's legs had been lying straight out saw side. To investigate is these discrepancies indicated that grant must've into feed with Cindy's clothing and body off to the farmworkers departed Franconia. To alert police of the crash. Diet. Also meant that he statements regarding the events had been laced partially false. The case shift the direction again, the following month when a new office saw began reviewing the charges against grand. Sajjan Raymond got can work for the North West Accident Investigation Squad in the New South Wales City of Parramatta. He's job was to review indictable matters before the courts. After reviewing the case of Cindy end minus Smith's deaths, he became concerned that the charges against grant would not truly representative of what occurred that not. Sajjan Gubkin. Noticed that when police officers had first arrived at the scene granted said that he banged driving Shortly after woods, he had changed his story and tell them Mona was the driver at claimed he had stuck to ever since. Sajjan Gubkin spoke with Mona's family to determine whether she could actually draw the car. Nine is brother Doug stated that she had only tried to drive a car once. Several months before the crash, a friend had brought their Blue Ford sedan to the reserve and Mona had set behind the wheel for less than five minutes. She slowly maneuver the CAA down a dirt road before getting out. The vehicle was an automatic unlike ZANDER grants four wheel drive, which was a manual. stated. I. Am sure that she has never driven any other car. If someone told me Mona driven manual car. Believe them because she just doesn't know how to draw. Doug statement was supported by known his cousin Daniel Booth and her mother June who both witnessed her brief driving sedan. June added that Mona had accidentally reversed into a steel pole at which point June immediately told her to get out of the car. Cindy's mother Dorn had allied a heard about the incident and stated. We are very close community and if Mona was driving anytime then all would hear about it. Anybody who said that Mona was driving the full wheel drive that was involved in the accident would be lying because she just couldn't draws it. Several days after interviewing Mona's relatives Sajjan Godkin arranged to speak with Alexander Grant on May Eleven nineteen. Ninety Eight Grant. Initially declined to speak with that. He's lawyer present. But when Sajjan Godkin asked whether there was anything he wanted to cy in their absence he remarked Well, a thought about it and a lot of this stuff I told, the detectives is not right. And some of the things are said Israeli bullshit. Hey discussed the nod of December, five, nineteen, ninety seven openly admitting that he had been far more drunk than he had told the detectives. Grant maintained that Cindy and Mona had approached him asking for a lift and Mona had driven the vehicle for good portion of the journey adding. She drove pretty good and handled at real. Well, really good on the GEEZE. Hey claimed that when the vehicle crashed Mona had gone through the windscreen while hey, and cindy remained stocking sawed. Hey was sitting next to the passenger door and Cindy was in the middle. So he opened the door, clam it out and pulled Cindy out after him. When. Sajjan good can Austin Grant recalled telling the detectives that Cindy had been walking around often the crash hey, replied. From what I've heard since Subedar injuries that copy Rod. Lucca said, a lot of the things I have said isn't wrought. Hey claimed that her clothing must have been pulled down accidentally when he dragged her from the vehicle. Sajjan. Godkin reiterated green extremely hot. Kahal level of point one, five, nine when tested hours after the crash then stated. It, he's my view that you would the driver of the vehicle. It is my intention to charge you with two counts of culpable driving and also with driving with the prescribed concentration of alcohol. Is there anything else you would like to tell me about this Meta? Grant replied. I can't think of anything other than to say that no way was I driving. On know what did the wrong thing letting her drive without a Lawson's On Saturday I may fourteen Sajjan Godkin arranged for physical evidence collected off from the Crime Investigation Unit to reexamine grants Toyota Hawks. Although the vehicle was significantly damaged grants, employers had sold it to a man named Pero whom grin new and was friendly with and data had spent some time attempting to repair it. He noted that when he received vehicle, the passenger saw Dole was open and it's luck had been damaged in a way that was consistent with having been forced open with a card by. The physical evidence, collect a photographed, the Toyota high locks and tested the inside cabin for traces of blood. Hey immediately noticed that the steering wheel was missing and asked where it was. Paid said that he had removed it and shipped it to grant the previous day at grant's request. Investigators suspected paid whole had told grant that police planning to inspect the vehicle which had caused grant to panic and ask for the steering wheel. With the added offices were unable to it for fingerprints to confirm who had been driving. Nothing relating to the steering wheel was ever heard off again. In Ray examining the case Sajjan Godkin also took the step of speaking with the detectives involved and the first responders to the crash sought. After doing. So he was certain that Cindy's body had been undressed Andrey arranged after bang discovered by the farmworkers. Although multiple swabs had been taken from Cindy's body during her autopsy including a sample of what was believed to be seminal fluid. They were never tested for unknown reasons. Consequently, there was no forensic evidence confirming whether she had been sexually assaulted. Helluva Dui witness accounts provided enough evidence to charge Alexander Grant within decently interfering with a dead body which carried the maximum penalty of two years in prison. On May, twenty four nineteen ninety eight grant was officially charged with this offense as well as two counts of culpable driving causing death off the Sajjan Godkin concluded that Mona would have been incapable of driving manual full will drive. Hey was also charged with high range prescribed concentration of alcohol a charge given to individuals who drive a motor vehicle on a public road with the blood alcohol concentration of point one five or above. As the counts of culpable driving conflicted with grants original charge of allowing an unlicensed drive out to tight control of his vehicle. The decision was made to hold a committal hearing in order to determine which of the charges grant would ultimately face. The. Committal hearing was held almost six months later on November eight, nineteen, eighty eight. It was a hot day making the courthouse bill particularly stuffy and unpleasant. Magistrate Rosemary Katie, Smith presided over the hearing while police prosecute US Sergeant Roland, I presented for the prosecution. Alexander Grin was represented by his heart prosperous Anthony Quinn Levin and Solicit Bill House. The. Primary aim was the disprove grants assertion that Mona Smith had been driving. He's vehicle. The defense pointed to the significant damage sustained to the dravis sought of the youth and argued that grant was to lodge to have escaped essentially unscathed if he had been driving. As Mona had suffered extreme injuries. They posited that it was bommel luckily, she had been behind the wheel. The first witness culled to the stained Sergeant Raymond Godkin, whose work on the case had resulted in culpable driving charges bang light against grand. Cindy and Mona's mothers dawn and to June, Smith also testified speaking about their relationships with their daughters and both goals lack of driving experience. The defense attempted to want him on the evidence of both women under cross examination suggesting that Mona motive had more experience driving than her family was aware of. While dawn into June Smith both spoke of how close knit community was Barisa Anthony Quinn Levin Trod to discredit this. But telling the court that the goals were nine to drink on occasion and spend time unsupervised. Constable Ken McKenzie. The first officer to arrive on the sane also testified though, hey, appeared nervous. The Prosecution portrayed constable Mackenzie has a reliable Lofa saw with considerable crime experience, but the defense implied he's value to bring his official police notebook to the sane reflected poorly. Constable Mackenzie confirmed that grant had been slurring his words when questioned by the responding officers prompting Quinlivan to query whether the Mackenzie had possibly misunderstood. He's initial claim that hey had been driving the youth. Constable Mackenzie stood firm noting that grant had definitely stated I was in response to the question of who had been driving. Dr Clive Pringle the forensic pathologist who conducted Cindy and Mona's autopsies told the court that both girls would have died within an hour of the crash. He further stated that Cindy would have been in extreme pain and unable to sit up and had to luckily fallen unconscious immediately following the crash Ju to Shaw and injuries. However under cross examination from Quinlivan Doke, the pringle acknowledged that it wouldn't be quote totally extraordinary if Cindy had managed to survive for up to two hours. Witnesses Shane Batty and text Johnson spoke of how they stumbled across the crash saying. Shane insisted that both goals were deceased when they arrived but the defense argued, hey, was not in a position to confirm this as he had no medical experience. Trying to extend the period of time Cindy could have survived for grants. Legal Team were trying to convince the magistrate that Cindy still been alive after her body was undressed than to jousted. Thus absolving grand of having indecently into feed with a dead body. In summing up the case magistrate Rosemary Kadish Smith noted that although there was evidence suggesting that Mona Smith had driven a vehicle at least once before the crash, she did not have very extensive experience in driving. She also stated that grant had clearly been dishonest when speaking with police and that it seemed highly out of character for him to lendys vehicle to attain Asia whom he digest met. Ultimately, Judge Keta Smith determined that the original charges relating to Mona driving the vehicle would be dropped and to grant would face two counts of culpable driving. With regards to the charge of indecently interfering with the dead body. Judge Kadish Smith noted that Cindy would have thought quickly and dismissed the notion that she had removed her own clothing. Not, in debt grant was discovered with these I'm dragged across Cindy's chest indicating interference of a sexual nature had bank committed judge Keta Smith said that this the charge would also stand. Grant was committed for trial but was not held on remand. He was escorted from the courthouse to a car waiting outside. Psalm of Cindy and Mona's and friends ran off to the car as it drive away shouting and shaking their fists with several making our contact with grant as they did so. Grant had relocated to Sydney for the crash and return that to a white he's trial. More than six months later in June nineteen, ninety nine, the charge of high range prescribed concentration of alcohol was adjourned for unknown reasons. It was the only charge against grant that Judge Kedah Smith. Didn't address during the conclusion of the committal hearing. The trial was scheduled for January twenty nine Dante Ninety. In. The meantime grants defense team requested that the New South Wales Attorney. General issue a no bill to the charge of indecent interference with the body. If a charge was given a no bill that would essentially go away and not be brought up during a trial. Grants defense argued that there was no evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Cindy was deceased at five am the approximate time that her show was removed. dials sized I did that grant said events to level of intoxication? Meant there was a question as to whether he was in a state to voluntarily undertake such an action? The attorney general agreed with as arguments and on January twenty, four, nine, hundred, ninety, the defense team received a letter off from the director of public prosecutions advising the charge would bay withdrawn. No charge was introduced relating to the possible sexual assault of Cindy and only charges grant would be trod for with the two counts of culpable driving. Cindy Damone is families were not informed that the charge of interference with a coal said Bang dropped until the trial commenced on Thursday February one in the Book District Court. Upon hearing the news, they became furious and destroyed. As the jury were required to exit the court whenever evidence relating to interference with Cindy's corpse was raised, they were entirely unaware of the madoff or the withdrawn charge. The original jury had included to aboriginal women but grants defense had challenged their inclusion by arguing that they would be under pressure from their communities to convict and quote. In those circumstances grant probably wouldn't get a fair trial. Consequently, the to indigenous jury members were replaced resulting in an old what jury The onus was on the prosecution to prove beyond the reasonable doubt that Alexander Grant had been driving the vehicle when it crashed. Dare argument was hindered by what grants barest lighter cold. The fabulous physical evidence of the use roof banks smashed in down to the steering wheel on the Dravis Saad. Anybody sitting in that sate was gonNA and my guy didn't have scratch. On Thursday February. One week after the trial began the jury returned a verdict of not guilty. Prompting the core to a Rob Dean Anga. When the verdict was read aloud, don't Smith removed one of her shoes and threw it at the jury. She latest spoke of her anger at the funding to journalists the Rosemary Neal who wrote an article about the case Todd, the long shadow of a twin tragedy for the weekend. Australian newspaper. Doing remarked. Of, course always shocked. June added that if a police officer had been standing knee her, she would have grabbed a gun and shot grant in retaliation. Shave cold that to police offices also seemed bitterly disappointed by grants of Quito. In the same article, June Smith told Rosemary Neil. That day was the worst of her life? Quite. To hear what happened to these girls and he walked free. If it had been too little white goals that would have been a different Madda, and if it was a black man with two goals would have been locked up there and then thrown away the case still in jail today. Due to the angry reaction from those in the public gallery. Grants? Berisha and solicit would given a police escort out of the courthouse. They were instructed police to leave vicinity immediately and not stop until they rached Ba'athist at town six hours away by car. Four days later on February twelve grant was arrested in Sydney off the severely assaulting another individual and was charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Many people in book world outraged and disgusted by the trial's outcome feeling that justice had not been served. In, the years that followed dean conclusive. Case prompted alternate theories as to what really happened. Donen Garnier road on the nod of December, five, nineteen, Ninety, seven. They have been fueled in part by police department made in May, Nineteen eighty-seven by thirteen year old cousin of Cindy and Dimona named Sharon Smith. Sharon told police that on the evening of Friday December four the not before the crash she had been walking through book towards the reserve with another cousin named Julie when what full wheel drive shape believed was a Toyota pulled over. The drama was a white man who she lied her identified as Alexander. Grant? Hey smelled of beer and asked if the girls knew where the nearby Rodeo was. The goals agreed to show him the way and got into his vehicle. Upon arriving at the show grounds where the ride Diana was hosted, the go started drinking with grant. Soon Sharon noticed that Cindy was also there. At, some stage. Sharon. Julie Cindy and two grand headed towards and Ganja to visit Julie's Bravo. During the Dr Grant requested that Sharon St, the vehicle as hey was extremely drunk. As she did sire grant began rubbing the legs of three girls. The. Group spent some time in and Ganja before heading back towards burke. When they arrived back at the show grounds dying canton five more of Sharon's cousins who will wanted a lift. They piled into the rea- cargo area of the you'd and before thou dropped off, they stole a number of work tools that had been stored there. Sharon, said, she then dropped Cindy off at the reserve leaving her and Julie alone with Gran. Hey was extremely drunk at this point and proposition to the young girls offering them money in exchange for sex. They refused and good out of the vehicle at which point grant drive away. Some people in Burke, believed that Cindy and Mona's deaths. The following nod would deliberately orchestrated by Gran as revenge obeying robbed and that Hey, misspoke amo- Nov Julie. There are rumors that Julie had stolen drugs and a substantial amount of cash which grant had stashed onto one of the vehicles sates. When grant came into ten the following day supposedly looking for someone to help him repair his excavate. He was actually looking for Sharon Julie and Cindy after discovering he bain robbed. Those that subscribe to this theory believed that several gentlemen who had baning four different 'cause assisted grant in brutally attacking the goals in exchange for money. The goals were attacked Angola near road without a found and the same was subsequently staged to resemble a car crash. One witness has reported to mine his family that they were present for the attack and saw grant building an acts over known as head as he said. Where's my money Julie Smith. Muna replied. On. Not. Julie Online. Ole saw. Another witness has claimed to have driven past the crash saw the following morning while detectives were at the same. The witness noticed the man sitting by the side of the road wearing a shirt covered in blood. It is Baynes said that this man later confessed to being present during the attack and claimed he had tried to help Mona. However, police reports contain no mention of any such man being present at the same. Many years after the girls deaths, Mona's mother June and sister Fiona visited a male cousin after another family member accused him of being involved in the incident. The two women asked where the cousin had bane on the nodding question and hey, replied that hey, and there's anti had been traveling to Borana amongst four carloads of paypal. The cousins admission to being in a convoy of four vehicles led some to believe hey, was one of the men who helped to grant attack the to go. Di Suspect. T mealy said he was in brewer to cover his tracks and was actually present at the crash thought. It has been alleged that the cousin participated in the murders in exchange for money from grant. For. Those who believe this alternative theory? It explains why there was so little blood in. Saudi. The vehicle how the US toys were inflated and undamaged. Why Atop Poland appeared to have been nate lie dead on the ground and how grant walked away unharmed. Some of Cindy and mine is family members are also certain that the girls would never get into a vehicle driven by a white stranger and less they knew someone else who was with the draw. Author Richard Stanton who wrote the book and Gunja road has proposed another explanation for why grant motive escaped with. So few injuries if he was driving. The theory is that grant bright side only which led to Mona Bang thrown through the windscreen. As, the vehicle slowed down cindy was also thrown from the vehicle. Grant was then tossed it ways into CDs now empty say. The roof was crushed in and he was able to climb out of the now md windscreen when the vehicle came to a stop. Stanton believes this would also explain how grant exited the vehicle as responding officers found that by those were jammed shot. According to Stanton after the trial several experts can say did that this was a plausible scenario. Cindy and Mona's family members tone as to what exactly happened to the goes on the nod, of December, five, nineteen, seven with much of neck confusion stemming from the fact that they received. So little communication from the police. Carry Cindy Smith SISTA has criticized investigators for not properly interviewing the aboriginal community in the immediate math of the goes deaths as many had been out in burke that not and could have provided evidence. In Two thousand and eighteen June Smith told journalists Rosemary Neil. Quote. We didn't know nothing. The police never came and spoke with us they all sort of kept away. That's the worst part. Seating and waiting and not knowing. Alexander Defense Baraci Anthony Quinlan also spoke with the journalist Derisory Neil. Although. He maintained that justice was done. Hey admitted to having some misgivings about the trials dot com and described it as. One of the most exceptional events that happened to me in forty years of being a lawyer. As. Cindy was fifteen years old. Living, queried why the prosecution didn't attempt to prosecute grant with being decency against the Mona instead of indecently interfering with a corpse. Quote. Rearranging her clothing obviously, he did that. Blonde Freddie could say he must have done that. He was probably doing something despicable at that point. It was difficult to say why it was that the police or the Korean authorities did not work out that they might have had a stronger case if I had charged him with some act of indecency against the Mina under the age of sixteen. The inferences same berry powerful in that regard. Quinlivan acknowledged that he's vulne client had clearly told biff by the laws throughout he's interviews and court proceedings adding. My fellow was very fortunate to walk away a free man. Rosary Neil also contacted the New South Wales police for her article and they supplied the following statement. The case has gone through court proceedings of thirty years ago and police have no further comment on matters that are already on public record. The current relationship between new, south Wales police, and all members of the book and Borana Communities is cohesive and respectful and continues to develop. In two thousand, seventeen Alexander Grant died at the age of seventy in Sydney. Prior to his death, he had lived in a nursing Heim where he required constant care after a stroke had left him with difficulty speaking. Via Na, Mona Smith's Sista told case fall that she experienced mixed emotions when grant dodd because she was deeply saddened that he did never be brought to justice for Cindy and Maynas deaths. Today Fiona still lives in Burke and works with local indigenous youths by teaching them about their ancestors and providing a mains for young people to get involved in neck immunity. Shape believes that Cindy and Mona's spirits are unable to rest due to the traumatic nature of the deaths. Cindy's Melba dawn works for the Burke. Aboriginal. Legal Service providing professional and culturally appropriate legal services for aboriginal and Torres Strait all and a papal. She says that she doesn't want to die before justice is done. Cindy Sister Carey now lives in Melbourne and believes Cindy Spirit has followed her. As she is unable to rest with the justice. Although Grin Daud in two thousand seventeen, the goals families have been petitioning for an inquest into the deaths in the hopes they want finally received the answers they've sought for more than thirty years. In Two thousand eighteen legal advocacy group. The National Justice Project issued a formal complaint about the mishandling of the case to the New South Wales Lowering forcement conduct commission. The project's principal solicitor argued that there was evidence Alexander Grant was a sexual Predator nine for attempting to prey on aboriginal goes. The statement provided by the girl's cousin Sharon Smith who said she'd had an encounter with grant the not before the crash was soldered in the submission. The submission also pointed out that the police Volya to retrieve the steering wheel from grants vehicle was quote. Fatal to the prosecution charges as they could not prove who was driving. In June two thousand nineteen Cindy and Mona's families met with new South walls police for formal mediation session about the case. Fiona Smith told the weekend Australian newspaper that the experience was draining yet positive and she was hopeful they will one step closer to achieving their goals. In an exclusive interview with the Weekend Australian the magistrate who committed grant disdained trawl Rosemary Kadish. Smith also spoke out in favor of an inquest. Shade described the original investigation as incompetent and labeled grants or version of events as totally unbelievable lies. I do certainly think some questions should be asked and the Madda better exposed. A think this should happen in Venice to the families and the relationship with the aboriginal community who feel that all interests have not been looked off DA? With some reason. In June two, thousand, twenty cindy into Mona's families received notice from the Deputy Director of New South Wales public prosecutions that an inquest was unlikely to go ahead. The decision to drop the charge of indecent interference with Cindy's corpse was defended though the office of the Director of public prosecutions of Paula Jaws for not notifying Cindy's family of this development priok to the trial. The New South Wales. Police. Commissioner Huddle cy revealed that two independent enquiries had found the police handling of the case to be adequate. Goes families were extremely disappointed by day's developments with Vienna Smith telling the weekend Australian quiet. At slack that docking and waving and no one wants to take responsibility. My Momma loses her spark things like this happen. So her sink have been more. Cindy and Mona's mother is a still fighting for an inquest to be granted. During the making of this episode, they issued an open letter to case file that Raves. Way The mothers of Cindy and Mona Lisa Smith wanted inquest into outdoor deaths which happened on December six, nineteen, ninety, seven on the an Ganja road. It has been thirty three years now since we lost them and nothing has been done to help us find out the truth about what happened to Al Goes. If, they would to white girls they kill would have been jailed by now. But. They were black goes and everything is swept under the rug. So we ask you. Is there one law for what paypal and a separate law for black people? We, have been through a lot days past thirty three years thinking about what happened and whether we will ever get justice. Very I'll go so not. All the stress and pain will you going three now? Wondering if we will ever get justice for outdoor this. Yours in struggle. Iona Dawn Smith. And June Smith.
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E. x. t. august twenty first two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen eleven. A man stole a painting and cemented. It's cultural legacy but what's remarkable about the heist is not the criminals lack of experience or the paintings incredible fame but how astonishingly easy it was for vincenzo perrugia to steal the mona lisa welcome to today in true crime podcast original everyday we day we tell a timely story from true crime history then analyze the historical impact of that day's events. I'm vanessa richardson and today i'm diving into the heist that rocketed the mona lisa to international fame. How did a former liuw worker steal. The museums ziems most valuable painting in a one man operation. Let's go back to paris on the morning of the theft august twenty first now one thousand nine hundred eleven around six a._m. Vincenzo harija made his way through the cobbled streets of paris fast but not too fast underneath his labors smock and his com veneer he hit a sense of purpose a sense of patriotism it was time to take back with the frenchman had stolen and return it to italy where it belonged perrugia had contemplated the day's mission for months. He planned every step of his rise from a petty crime to grand larceny down to the day of the week monday. The louvre museum was closed on mondays but just just because it was closed didn't mean it wasn't brimming with people workers milled in and out along the rue de rivoli. The front gate of the world's greatest art museum was wide open. Just as peru i expected he walked right in he knew who they would be only ten guards on duty that day and if he was lucky none in the ceylon kyw even if there were guards cards none would spare a thought at the arrival of one of their glass workers for years perrugia had made himself a common site at the louvre move installing flawless glass covers in the frames of famous paintings including the mona lisa perrugia still recalled the first time he held the mona lisa painted on wood. It's eighteen pounds. Were no match for for the weight of the emotions at drew out of him joy intrigue and rapture ludger kanda. Could he ever create something so incredible even if he couldn't sharing nationality with its painter leonardo davinci brought him pride a pride. That was the birthright of all italians. Perrugia took the quickest route through the liuw blending in with museum workers. If anyone asked he was here to inspect the glass not long after seven thirty a m he entered the ceylon kallay the square room where she lived the gallery was empty but there wasn't time for admiration he quickly it lifted the mona lisa from its four small wall hooks. It was nearly two hundred pounds but perrugia was prepared to lift the weight. He was the one who had installed the frame. After all no one gave him a second glance as he carried the painting out of the gallery and into a small empty stairwell perrugia new all the private spaces hiding between the sweeping galleries and this one doubled as way out in the privacy of the stairwell he removed the glass covering the mona lisa discarding her frame like a lover's dress he wrapped the painting and a white sheet and with his lightened load hurry down the stairs. Perrugia reached the door. It was locked. He was trapped in a stairwell with a stolen painting. This was not in the plan undeterred. Perrugia considered the doorknob like everything in the louvre. He knew its inner workings. He sat down the painting and began to unscrew the knob. The knob plopped off. He was out but before perrugia could push open the door. Someone called out his name name. Perrugia turned it was his old friend so vei one of the loaves plumbers thinking quickly perrugia pocketed the doorknob bob and greeted survey. Could he believe one of the idiot. Guards broke the door so they offered to help fix it. He had tools on him mm-hmm. The men made casual small talk each word weighing on perrugia. He prayed his friend wouldn't notice the bulging doorknob in his pocket or the painting hidden under the sheet so vague took his time finally so vay opened opened the door and perrugia promised they'd catch up soon carrying the painting perrugia sped out of the liuw. No one was guarding the doors so he left without being questioned or even noticed. Perrugia threw away the doorknob in an alley and fled at the scene. It was a forty minute walk home if he was fast perrugia took cobblestones sidestreets remaining as inconspicuous is possible despite the cultural treasure he was smuggling. Finally he arrived at his modest. One room flat got there. He hid the mona lisa under the stove. Perrugia didn't need to look at the painting. He was intimately familiar here with the work. Her mysterious is her secretive smirk. Humanity peeking through the web of distinctive cracks in centuries old old oil paint davinci's masterwork was the intrigue of the art world it belonged to italy and it was almost home up next historical analysis of the heist now back to the story despite it being their most valuable piece of art it would take the loop security over a day to notice the mona lisa had been stolen. They'd only begin searching on august twenty second nineteen eleven after a particularly obstreperous art student made a fuss. One hundred and twenty officers and sixty detectives swarmed the scene. The liuw shut down for a full week week but authorities turned up only a soul fingerprint and a doorknob. Both deemed frankly useless. Authorities honed in none of variety of suspects including one pablo picasso for two years. No one would see the mona lisa and yet everyone would see the mona lisa police circulated photos of the painting and the news of the theft of the lose most valuable painting made international international headlines copies of the portrait spread like gossip. Liuw patrons waited in line to see the empty space where she used. I used to hang within a year. The mona lisa skyrocketed immortality though vincenzo peru's theft did not bring the painting home to italy permanently it made the mona lisa the most famous painting in history <music> after vincenzo peruta stole the mona lisa on august twenty first nineteen eleven it remained in his apartment unframed and unprotected for the next two years on the east side of paris. It was by no means a nice neighborhood. Some sources allege that perrugia briefly had a fellow italian ex patriot. Keep the painting for him again in a simple apartment. Supposedly perrugia gave the painting to his friend because he was worried the wintertime moisture in his unheeded apartment would damage the would it was a failure to plan dan on peru's part but he wasn't the only failure in this case perrugia had a history of petty crime and the french authorities had his his fingerprints on file. Their sole piece of evidence was a clear fingerprints lifted from the abandoned frame. It should have been a simple solution but french police protocol at the time dictated that only right hand fingerprints were taken from captured criminals and the print recovered covered the scene of the mona. Lisa heist was from a left hand the sole piece of evidence and also oh the only piece needed to solve the crime was useless. Luckily perrugia an inexperienced criminal eventually came him forward with the painting in november of nineteen thirteen. He wrote to alfred oh jerry and international art dealer based in florence. He said he had the mona lisa desired to return it to italy and would exchange it for a reward. He signed the letter leeann chard hoping jerry would get the obvious reference jerry spoke with giovanni poggi director of florence's famed uffizi league gallery poggi thought it was worth entertaining the mysterious leonardo. If it was a forgery they'd quickly figure it out and on the off off chance it was the real lodger kanda it was worth a shot so that december vincenzo perrugia hid the painting waiting in the false bottom of his trunk and boarded a train to florence mona lisa road third class in florence perrugia asia still using his alias leonardo checked into a hotel and left the mona lisa there while he met with jerry jerry agreed to the pay perrugia five hundred thousand lire nearly one hundred twenty thousand dollars today as a reward or more accurately a ransom the next day jerry introduced perrugia to poedji and perrugia introduced them both to the mona lisa which which he kept in his trunk wrapped in red satin and hidden under art supplies it was the real painting identified by the distinctive crack lure the web of cracks that span across the painting as a result of aging peru's painting matched old photographs of the mona lisa like a fingerprint poedji and jerry promptly turned leonoard in despite his noble intentions vincenzo perrugia was tried as a criminal and though his fellow italians cheered his nationalism awesome he was convicted of theft and sentenced to a year and fifteen days in prison. However perrugia did did get his wish for about two weeks. The mona lisa was displayed in the fitness gallery. It was then returned to the liuw where it resides take this day but the saga wasn't over yet twenty years later american journalist i karl decker published a story in the saturday evening post claiming he'd spoken to the real mastermind behind the mona lisa heist one eduardo warto dave all fear no the story rested on the idea that perrugia an immigrant laborer described by historian donald sassoon as almost almost illiterate could not have pulled off this incredible heist alone decker reported that volcano was a con man who'd concocted a master scheme to defraud six american millionaires by selling the mona lisa forgeries to legitimize the con- he hired perrugia russia to steal the real mona lisa according to the story perrugia gave welfare no the real mona lisa but stole it back two years years later when he decided it belonged in italy while this makes for a fun story about defrauding the rich and immoral none of alfio knows forgeries injuries have ever come to light yet. The conspiracy theory lives on circling pop culture year after year a tale of con artists tests and a criminal spiderweb matches the profile of the world's most famous painting a tale of lax security and a lone patriot it does not but the truth is sometimes crime is easy. Sometimes criminals aren't masterminds and sometimes all it takes is the confidence to walk into the front door of the liuw like it or not on august twenty first nineteen eleven spend an uneducated immigrant single handedly changed the landscape of the art world for more information on the mona lisa heist and the painting itself check out the the episodes of unexplained mysteries on the mona lisa. I'm vanessa richardson today. In true crime is a podcast original. You can find more for episodes of today and true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already have all of your favorite music but vow spotify is making it easy for you. 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"Welcome to bedtime history. Hello this Brek a quick shout out to our newest donors, Katie Grace Amelia and Henry from Albany New York and Ben. Abbey. Alexandria. and Ross Feldman from California. Also Mary Emerson from. Fort. Mill South Carolina. Thanks so much for your donations if you'd like to donate to bedtime history, go to bed bedtime history stories, dot com, and Click on donate and the menu to donate through Patriot on. Also last week, we announced our new episode about the time traveling secret agents of the Explorer Society who travel back in time to help James Watt find his stolen steam engine plans. Be Sure to check that out on our website bedtime history stories, dot com. Now onto our episode imagine you're walking through an art gallery, the Walzer Tall and beautiful. It's an elegant place and they're tourists everywhere studying and looking at artwork as you turn the corner into a different room, the crowd grows very thick everyone crowding around trying to see one particular painting as you get close you see the painting they're looking at a portrait of a woman she sits facing you and smiles with a slight smirk that is both suspicious and mysterious. This episode is about one of the most famous paintings in the world. The Mona Lisa. The Mona Lisa is also sometimes known as La Jakoda which means the happy one in. Italian. The name of the painting is also a play on words or joke. The painting is of a woman named. Lisa del Chea, CONESA. The Mona. Lisa was painted during the sixteenth century by an Italian painter named Leonardo Davinci Leonardo lived in Florence Italy during the Renaissance Period in Europe the renaissance was a time when there was much interest in art and writing in Europe in the fourteenth through sixteenth centuries. Leonardo was born in Italy in fourteen fifty to his dad was a lawyer and his mom was a peasant woman. Leonardo studied art as a child with the famous Italian painter Andre. Adele Kyo. During the renaissance, it was common for men to learn many different arts and science skills. Leonardo studied hard with his painting teachers because this was a long time ago and Leonardo was not yet famous. There's not a lot known about his childhood. They're only reports that he was very curious and had a very inventive imagination inventive means someone who is creative and comes up with original inventions or ideas. Leonardo was interested in many different art forms including inventing and designing new technologies. This means developing new machines or Botox. Automated or easier to do. Leonardo imagined and then drew pictures of flying machines, armored fighting vehicles, solar-powered inventions, and an adding machine. At the time most of his designs were not actually built as real objects. It just wasn't possible yet. This was because modern science and engineering were only just starting to be developed. Leonardo is sometimes credited with having invented the parachute helicopter and tank. Leonardo's I love was oil painting. He often painted portraits of wealthy people who hired him. The Mona Lisa was painted as one of these portrait's. Although historians don't know for sure they believed that the painting is of Lisa Del j Kunda who is the wife of Francesco del Kunda a rich silk merchant who lived in Florence? Leonardo began painting the Mona Lisa around fifteen three in Florence Italy at the time he was around fifty one years old. He would have had the woman in the painting set to be painted many times before it was completed. Other painters at the time. The new Leonardo said that he worked on it slowly for four years he tinkered with it and eventually left it unfinished. because. Historians are not one hundred percent. Sure. This painting is of Lisa Del Kunda. Alternative theories have been believed by some people. Alternative theories means different ideas about something. Some people believe that the Mona Lisa Painting is actually a painting of Leonardo. DAVINCI's mother Katerina. The painting was completed around fifteen o eight and later brought to France by Leonardo and fifteen sixteen. The King of France Francis. The first purchased the painting from Leonardo King Francis the I was very interested in art and particularly Liked Leonardo Da Vinci paintings he purchased many of them during Leonardo's lifetime. King Francis the I hung the Mona Lisa in the Chateau. Photon blue. This was one of the medieval castles that belong to the French royals and was about thirty four miles southwest of the center of Paris French monarchs lived in this palace including King Francis. The I he did a lot of work on the palace during his lifetime including building an art gallery. This is where he hung the Mona Lisa other paintings he purchased from Leonardo. The Gallery of Francis. The first is considered to be one of the first and find examples of renaissance, decoration in France. It was originally constructed in fifteen twenty eight as a passageway between the apartments of the king with the courtyard or garden area. After Francis, the first deaths other French, kings kept the gallery of France, the first intact. This was until Louis the fourteenth became the new King of France in sixteen, Forty three. Louie the fourteenth also known as the Sun King preferred to spend time at the palace of Versailles and eventually moved the Mona Lisa and other paintings there Louis the fourteenth loved art purchased many additional art pieces during his lifetime. He displayed those pieces and beautiful rooms of the palace of Versailles. The Mona Lisa remained at the palace of Versailles until the French Revolution. This was a period of time when there is a lot of change in France, the new leader of France after the revolution was Napoleon Bonaparte, he moved the Mona Lisa to his home and True v Palace and hung it in his bedroom. Later. In seventeen ninety seven, the Mona Lisa was moved to the Liuw a famous art museum in Paris where it still hanging today, it is owned by the government of France. Did you know that in nineteen eleven, the Mona Lisa was stolen the Louvre Museum thought it was being photographed when they checked to see if it was safe but in reality someone had taken it. The loop closed for one week to help look for it. People thought of French poet named GM apollinaire stolen. He was put in jail and he tried to make people think his friend, the artist Pablo Picasso did it and he was questioned to, but it was not either of them. The Mona. Lisa was lost for two years and everybody thought it would be lost forever a worker at the loof named. Vicenzo. Perugia had actually stolen it. He and two other workers had taken the portrait from the wall hit with it in a closet overnight and the next day Vincenzo hit and his coat and walked out with it. After the museum had closed, he wanted the painting to go back to Italy and to be shown in an Italian museum. After hiding it in his apartment for two years, he grew impatient and tried to sell it in a gallery in Florence Italy but he was caught the painting was shown all over Italy before going back to the liuw people thought Vicenza was a hero who loved Italy. So he only spent a few months in jail. During. World. War Two the Mona Lisa was singled out as the most endangered artwork in the lose endangered means threatened. In this case, the French government likely worried that enemies would steal or destroy it. The Mona Lisa was moved to various locations in. Francis. Countryside. It was returned to the Louvre Museum in nineteen forty five after peace had been declared, it later traveled to the United States in nineteen sixty, three in over forty thousand people per day came to see it. Over the years, a few people have tried to vandalize the Mona Lisa. This means to trash a wreck the painting why someone would want to destroy the painting is a real question but that is why the Mona Lisa is now displayed behind bulletproof glass. Other artists have tried to copy Leonardo's painting style and even painted copies of the Mona Lisa. It's such a famous painting that it's written about in poems and songs featured in movies and it's estimated that it's worth over eight hundred and sixty million dollars. Have you ever seen an image of the Mona Lisa if you haven't be sure to look it up later I know I'd love to see in real life someday at the Louvre. Museum in France hopefully one day you'll get a chance to see yourself. Thanks for listening and be sure to tune in next time.
7. The Mona Lisa with Celia Morand
"Hello and welcome to the joys. Art has strict podcast. Podcast for celebrates all thanks art historical every single day on today's podcast. I sit down with my friend and colleague cigarette marin to talk about one of art histories and indeed the world's greatest and will being things. It really wouldn't be art history. Podcast particularly has to podcast season. One company so dedicated to this particular painting as you've seen from the title. Yup today we are going to be talking about the incredible mona lisa. You may be surprised to hear that as completely steeped in history on for one small painting. It certainly has more than one interesting story. Attached to the history of this piece as one of leonardo davinci's greatest works and of course people louvre in paris every single day to see. That's incredible work. If you've been looking enough to travel to paris and see the work for yourself then you'll be fully aware that s an actually. A large painting is quite small. It's also near enough impossible to get to and the loop between bulletproof glass twenty-five fires and then of course four thousand other people trying to take a photo on a self respect but as you see from my talk with celia speaks sold beautifully passionately. Vote the story. The mona lisa on everything. That best painting has been through and its lifespan. I think you'll learn to appreciate a less overt. More on this podcast. Which about the origins of the work. It's history of the attack when it was stolen. And then we ran off the episode of very nicely by sharing some fun facts on conspiracy theories which surround the painting so definitely recommend the covering for the best work as a symbol of france. So i feel very privileged. I was able to sit down with a french national and have them give their opinion on what it means to them just award of warning before we continue when cillian. I sat down to court this episode. There was some sort of commotion going on and knicks to us about twelve. She's seventeen minutes. I've tried my base where possible to lower the volume. But there's still can still hear in the background but it's only for a short period of time. You go back to it. So if you get bored lessening but at least you can always listen to what. These people are. Arguing about the background academic. Anyway just sit back and relax cillian. I discuss the history of the mona lisa. And you were you. Were fourteen fifteen yet thirteen. Fourteen okay yeah. I was really young and he was so slow that set though live shy i had the same reaction as many other people. Because when you see her you mentioned you will be bigger. Because she's such a work of art in heart history You you just have this tiny piece in this huge box of glass and you have thousands of people around you with their phone or speak or thing like that was not on the state face stack. Praise on the goal. Taking picture of this on ingles yet. I was more impressed by the painting next to it. what's the name of this madonna on. The rocks is no no. It's enough to kenna not rafael. All mariners look nice. But i remember i. I stopped in front of the huge painting. Because it's one of the you just yeah painting in there and you have this huge one and it's tiny. One was like why people just begun mona lisa when they have this incredible next to not set on set. It said 'cause. I remember the first time i saw. I was twenty one. I go in for my Power from much waiting to forest and disneyland paris not to go to live. Even those in our history student to disneyland empires have my priorities n shake and my sister night for really excited gob daily. Because obviously you have to queue for like a fortnight to get end because joss like they do it really well like the buildup to get into the like. That's a beautiful. All two story palace rate on the scene over this one that's next to the wedding feast at cana. Only gosh this huge. And it's in the same room as mona lisa. Any of those huge people pass amazing in hinting gino. It just shows you. How like i was after seeing them when i remember my sister and i were like alka select. Obviously it's like sign posted the hallway that you go in and really excited for all. Obviously we went through the ancient egyptian section. And this was my. This is when i got of beef with the live because i was kind of like initially i was like we'll go to the mummy room and then we went to see all the mummies. Those maybe like seventy five mummies A in women into a tube that they had like brick by brick taken apart and rebuilt in the live and then we got lost and ended up in the basement of an actual castle like that again. A medieval castle within take the original castle because nouveau was an important place in perry. It was way that i castle were built. So you have the media. Been building up more thing as long as a castle before versailles was set to be. Oh this is. Where is that. Where louis was was was palace before he chose their science. Can't temporary remember in which way to his in because you have the tweet elite too which is another castle. That's not existing anymore. has been demolished in the nineteenth century but who was primarily as take castle it was where the king me well seeing already teaching mate so much celia various echo but yet so we saw this castle and i was like with again ended up back in the ancient egyptian section and i was like. Is there anything left egypt. Like why was. I ever need to go sinoe here. And then it got really annoyed and then we likes followed like the illustrated signs which i think is one of the only museums ever been in two pair silly where that's actually lake. Here's an image of the work that you're looking for this way. It is the candidates normally like less to kind of lost within a room at time when i saw it. My sister is on it. Which i don't know i think candidate what you say that you up in your head has to be that's like because it's so universally known i think could go anywhere in show someone a photo of and i would bet my life with new orleans or maybe at least knew the artists or the it will be familiar to emotion watching it. Yeah exactly exactly. But it's just such an interesting painting. Bought it also has a very interesting history. Despite being an absolute as we would in scotland pint-size absolutely tiny tiny piece. So so you're gonna talk to me a little about the history of the wantonly set. Which i'm really excited about the cause. You wrote this amazing block both you and because it came of the blog post chemo of a discussion that we had. Yeah it was just about the a fun fact. That will mention liter as Price by by this was like okay. Let's dig a bit more of find information and i found Amazing articles manasseh how. She travelled through time how she became famous. What happened to her in the mystery. We could have about it. So it's just fantastic and i think it's a nice way for you to learn more about no totally lisa. Oil is recalling which blows my mind. That i just like. I say to you before Restarted i i didn't even just because it's universally notice the mona lisa. I had no idea that it would be called something else and andbranch. I in french. Cheese more known in brands says leisure rather than melissa. His i think movies is way for people to do name it in english writing on the languages and but knows it's legislation french. So if i do mistake during the podcast my apologies. No you lesson view. Call it whatever you want so just in case anyone has seen this painting just for everyone listening all the images that we refer to throughout the podcast will be available via my instagram page. A legal into them in the show on also on my website is where if if you're not partial to an instagram which is absolutely fine just to get the ball rolling describe the moon lisa to me and maybe by the end of albay allah a little dust off my old french by the french name. Ep go on the new website. And hugh have luke at its title. It's not mona lisa. It's portrait of liza garage. Dini so it's not or melissa. Is portrayed of liza girardi of francesco. Del jo kondo cocaine as you can hear joke on no visual titling between the two now and it's that that we got the name from her husband's name that we may her logical lash Fell it's a tiny painting if you look at the dimension cases it's seventy seven centimeters by not three okay so it's really tiny smaller than human size wednesday so when you facing. It's like really surprising. Because you have this idea that it could be so big because of its place in artan. What's interesting to see is that it is the first thing in time with a smile on it really the first one ever. Yeah because for that we had the you'll be gatien for noble people to stay closed in emotional would say right. Oh came in. It was for many points. Sean kief by bad because dentistry wasn't lead. Good that right okay. Chief would be bad but it was also linked with the vices. Shrink the mouse because the next seat sort of thing to open open the yeah they -fensive all right okay It was better if he just capture knife closed. Staying really really closed. Emotion was a way for people to show are important. They were i'll caso de data At emotion lies mange. You would've ideal. Yes so one of size. One of the exception through artistry with is not appropriate smile as we can mention afternoon The most famous one will be one with a visual. Okay so she painted. She made a southcorp right but she also she's more famous painting Alternate inner child out okay And on this one there is a smile in from that date so seventeen eighty three. I would say okay. Okay we start to see smiles on painting faces before that important people were not showing that ona any amazing or any faces so this smile has been been 'nigma for tons of people because we don't why she's smiling so you story would say. Oh it's because he's a hiding a pregnancy or all because she's she's just happy be here or she's playing to have more attention from leonardo da vinci okay. We don't really know it's still steal any ma in. We'll probably never know you. See these gorgeous. Because i do not find her really These these women who was considered at some point as a towel. Aw okay adding the nineteen th century in. Its from that point that she became a little bit more known because before that she was not that things. So she was vote by france's first from leonardo da vinci with boating fifteen twenty four fifteen twenty four and. She was as estimated that she eventually painted tar storing the not sure that it would be between three end. Fifteen fifteen yeah Okay could be something that but when they're not really sure that because we have drawings of raphael catches than new. Make the painting so it's quite hard to see. It was inspired by leonardo. Da vinci was painting at the time right. Okay from fences. I okay so francis. The first was Kenyan friends the in front of okay. He is the the king of the renaissance. Okay is the major one is the one who introduced art To court and you made art more popular. Ours is quite important for that and you loved. What leonardo da vinci was doing. Okay got plenty of his paintings. Some of them are now in the new so you can see them. They're undimmed eventually was also was has a court painter at one time as well which is really interesting because he was in florence when he painted this ended up in france. Yeah ended in france after fifteen fifteen yet. Because you have those big italian wars. Were french people. Were trying to get some territories in italy and princes. The i was released successful and acted at. He asked leonardo da vinci to come to france and became painter of the court. Very nice of upgrades Nice nice position for the charge. Davinci any i think. He was one of the first foreigner artists to be part of the the courts. foreigner painter. The first foreign painter lunardi get on shows not just painter. He's also scientists defiance. And it's yeah that time into what you was famous for was his signs not has snow his paintings. Yeah because he hasn't not made plenty of painting right okay. hugh we've seen. What when salvator mundi came on a. Yeah we'll check as a whole different podcast over it south okay so it was bought by fronts the forest yes this after leonardo passed away or was he to nineteen okay. Five years after okay said everybody from leonardo davinci's assistant and it stayed in the royal collection folding. Time napoli on the. I asked manila to be presented in josephine's bedroom. Really yes yes. Oh he was part of the royal collection of course and the royals were using it as decoration. So it's really interesting to see that. So this was n His wife's or partner's yet. Wow that's amazing. So then we're where does it go after. Because napoleon was exiled yet so before that when the new was open to public because it was one of the first museum to open to public in france after the french revolution. It was already exhibited there but they were eat. It was presented this huge room tons of painting. He could have a slightly idea of that in the wallace collection in london. For example when you go to these huge room with paintings all of the wool. Yes it was presented this way in that time. So just and when you consider Minimalist museums like to go. But it's always quite shocking when you look back and see the Used to be from lake near enough floor to ceiling and frames. They had no space between them. It's frame to frame yet as Trains to absolute the best Time so so. Yeah you had me sell some believe that thousands of other painting and she became more famous but it took time actually time to go there and she move to several rooms in the museum She started in the com- biggest one which was full of painting and then we moved her because she was major work and they want to two separate masterpiece. Two other paintings said. They've been collecting all masterpiece. They put them in the southern cal. It is image so this is the second image that we're looking at the second image so this room is smaller. Butted surrounded by astonishingly famous painting. The yeah if you have a look on this one you can see you Vinci you have a rafael so oh big. Italian time art in this room about what. I didn't notice about the same age until you pointed out to me. So when sue you sent me these images of uses a springboard for the podcast statement. Last i was like emotionally saw as endless. Foetal okay. we'll go with it. There's probably a story behind it on. I will publicly apologize to you because it isn't it on it. Just kind of go see what. We're seeing the start of the podcasts. At as tiny so for anyone listening if when you look at these images this this huge grand room heavily decorated. There's turtles of paintings onto the bottom right hand sites. There's this one large painting Several of smaller ones underneath it on. If you can't back from the right hand corner one two three four to the fourth one back the tiniest as the mona lisa there you are so i would thoroughly encourage you to go online at half. Look at this so still a masterpiece but not deserving of hartwall. Yes she we have to wait. Nineteen twenty or melanie sad space of her own own fool. Space err on the have more space for her would say because in nineteen twenty. She moved to leghorn again. This time was face so he was not stuck with the painting. She was surrounded by two smaller painting to make hulu bigger to there and then in nineteen sixties because she was becoming so famous we moved her to were. she's nowadays so This big room which welcomes biggest So yeah from that time with how she mood in the museum itself through time okay. So she's had quite a good saurav shift around 'em to fanged heart place to live but if we take it back to the image that we were just talking about their where i couldn't see her this link on quite nicely to the second image that he stay at anyone lesson h this would be like. How could you not fit to into together. It's a close up of the wall and there's two images on the gap in the middle. just four what. Looks like nails. In the wall celia Was less this is probably that biggest drum. After louvre had to overcome through time on august the twenty first nine eleven when a french painter came to the gallery because he was doing a copy of Because it was quite normal that time for painters co to go in the galleries in new copies of this were you realized melissa was missing so he went in security. What happened and secretary was like oh dory they might be doing some photography of the work so it will vaccines the security of the be nice idea to go and us what was going on. And they realized the painting has been stolen. Keeping a co. Yeah sheep it's so surprising how cool it was no stress before they realize it was still in 'cause active that became quite quite dementia. And he didn't actually why is quite staggering as he doesn't allaire the police or anybody like that straight away there were like there is no way a thief could have gone out with this painting. People sto be here. We will find it on so everyone was very quietly. Asked to start looking and then closed the blue. Yeah close little award a full week which hindsight not idea if you think someone already end the food. Ha's the work to ask everyone to voluntarily leave anyway. Hindsight's a great thing. I'm sure the time made sense. Yeah so they lose the museum for one week in when they realize it has been stolen. The director resigned. Yeah it's been really complicated. Because they were trying they found the frame and the delays of the painting. Yup and that was. It was a stairwell or something that you'd find the paint because it was only intel. Didn't they were still convinced that it would still heddon. Yes absolutely and it wasn't until the phones. The empty frame that they had that horrible realize it has been stolen so yeah. It was so intense for them so many newspaper when it became known was published Tatchell fake information people. Were running to the museum to see the empty space that set yet Actually op visits to the museum. And it wasn't like ashore. Ole ola talk live earned after the find. It really quickly smashing for ages. It was missing for two full years to hilliers incredible kenya. So yeah the chief was actually a museum. Worker was leisure. So he's the one who created the glaze for sad. I knew how to remove without damaging the painting. 'cause it's quite fragile one. Yeah it's really important to know how to handle it. He knew how to do it. Any just removed from the frame. Hide it with like material. Okay and exit the museum. He would do normally yes. He had the painting endures Arm sorry went on just left. Yeah so yeah. It takes two years for people to find the painting e actually contacted them in our dealer in italy. This seek the thief named in l. leonardo. Any send this message to the orange dealer saying oh i have. I have the painting you're looking for about. We meet and i can show you the painting the are like okay. Let's do that but the audela Art dealer also contacted police in other specialists who could help to identify the word. So the name of this guy is being shinzo. Piracha went to tell using italian. You can hear from his from his name. Went back to italy and try to sell the word to the art dealer in theon dealer. End the specialist realized that they were facing the real middle east said. They quickly called. The police and tens of peru job was arrested. But then it doesn't end there this. This whole sort of humiliation that continues for the live from the police start to question yet. Because vincenza persia was interviewed by police. That the never realized he had it. Will that set. It was hidden under dead. Said they've accused of the major names. French megyn aims like app or even more famous for international listener public picasso. They've been both arrested questioned and yet quite yet because there was a pablo picasso was very known for being not sticky fingered. Not very honest in how he acquired some art on. He'd already had a run in with police because he acquired sculptures antique sculptures from which he claimed he had up -solutely. No idea came from Despite the fact there was illegal underneath the clearly sade property of the live so he played it co but yes so. They were questioned separately. These two very good phrase. They were friends at that time. Not so much after the questioning but very quickly because they sold each other. I don't know if you could say that any are we see through each other under the bus They'd so they said picasso was the brain behind the yoshii. Peration up alenia was the one handling people in asking. Okay so are the puppet master of the operation interesting okay. But it was Vincenzo of aerojet was been chen's oh he was court and mass celebrated but i didn't return to straightway now know it stayed in italy for a while. 'cause when vincenzo peruggia was questioned and people. Ask him why. In italy and in his mind he's risen was. it's because napoleon. I stole it to italian people end. Because it's a representation of eat elites it's a masterpiece Needs to go back to italy so because of that to us was just one zero one year of prison idea that was at because it was a patriotic act. Was he in prison in front are actually. I don't know that. While that something table if i find it i will leave a link in the show notes. High interesting i do. you know. i've never even compared what Been stolen and the thief was caught by never thought War happen to the thief afterwards said the painting stayed in italy for a while because it was initially. Let's enjoy it. So the tour of the biggest galleries there and went back to france where it's been ever since No because it moved again in the sixties and later in the seventies out again the sixties it's linked to third images are third Okay so this is quite surprising again. I had knew idea at absolutely no idea that this was even a thing. What you see in the image as assist president john f. kennedy of addressing the people at what i'm assuming is the white house or some of conference no widows the national gallery away you are said. Uc president kennedy presenting speech to people in the room and next to him. Which is quite surprising when you know how hard it is to move out of. The museum is not impossible to remove me from the outset on mike. First question as on earth did it get to america and won't Just hide that even happen in what i found about. This is that. Jackie kennedy was really into culture. Okay she really wanted to have militia in the us just to show show it to the world end at some point. She invited of the culture minister of france in the us. During the discussion. She was neighb- use charms and that was saying to convince. Mount holyoke was the Yet in culture minister to lend the peace to us any accepted. It was announced a drama. But this time. That lou but in france in general because why on the hers masterpiece in go to to the us it left. There was a high security that set 'em so it left atlanta franz under various of tight. Look key security new ticket outta Actually made its way to the us via a very beautiful and elaborate. French ship yet and you are liner at time. Assist friends k and mona lisa. Idaho had run suite in the boat so first-class security. Everything's fine she went. She arrived there. She was more than one well. Welcome his one. Point seven million people cute to see mona lisa and we made that people stayed in stare at her for twenty second much No more no more than twenty second because the amount of people and the shortest time. She was here and everything. It's gino what that actually. It's kind of like a modern day. Kasama veteran actually know that we when you go in and you only know what kasama matter success at san artists that does these beautiful of measured installation rooms and the either photos like pumpkins. Our lights on whenever they are shown anywhere in the water the q. As only around the corner but it so long that you get a by twenty to thirty seconds on that is at so can't like a modern day yet k. some either Huge success and Young at that time so because it showed in washington. I am it made. Its way to to new york for for time to yet which is just amazing. And i i read that. It was ensured at the time this was nineteen sixty two four hundred million dollars from your blog you have included this incredible quotes which again i blew my mind in another in another way. So i have it here. And it says john f. kennedy addressing people will assume at the washington when he got the feeling yes and he says this painting is the second lady that the people of france have seen to the usc. Now sue ya. What is the falsely a fronts. Have sent to the usa statically a so this. This is one of these things that i was like. Ted i know this dead. I know this because it rings a bell but it was also like what. Yeah because it's Lamb for the us. The secular liberties. them to the us new having friends sending them the mona lisa would have been like friends sending them tower. 'cause it's famous another important in the cultural landscape of a country. So it's really interesting end if you go back to perry sending other places in france you can see copies or smaller version of this statue of liberty. 'cause there's one on the scene actually know that you've said this but yes so it was just us site fun fact. The statue of liberty wars presented to the americans in eighteen eighty sex have that it was it was installed a new york but it was to symbolize their alliance during the american revolution in the latter. Half of the seventeen. Hundreds and that famously. Wade as britain was still a british colony under the rule of george the third as george the third as very famous fiddle very famously known for as the king lost the america's but any an amazing food to an amazing that attracted so many people it was also so this was in the sixties. It came back to friends. And then japan asked to lend that work of k solid wednesday japan in lincoln. Seventy four one point. Five million people went to visit this exhibition so it was another huge success. She can pill. Let's be honest. Mona lisa mona shaquille crowd yet. Even nowadays when you know how many people come daily to see her Of how many people come i read. It was oh gosh. I had about twenty thousand. Thirty thousand people are owned my Person of the visitors in the lube. Come just to see Thanks that's also not cheap ticket end to either supertuck to euro to get eaten but then again i suppose it's one of these amazing cultural phenomenon. Where you just have to see is one of these of bucket list situations mike wash. Yes so. Japan was a huge success. Renault-nissan abuse our during cold war. Even if it's beyond which is russia russia yet Are is nowadays russia just in case yet in moscow so it stopped in moscow because when when the move was planning to send mona lisa to japan if phones had to fight a both russia their mission and the only way i would give permission to friends to take. This road was to lend piece for some time in russia as snaky bought very Of bargaining chip say. Yeah so it stayed air and crazy to you margin that only said this two trips. Nfl that nothing will that set but the there is speculation by the fact that she returned from russia she was damaged. Yeah it's quite complicated. Melissa has been painting on wood panel. It's really fragile one Huge in the back right and traveling within different climates in in the air conditioning. In the pain. But even if it's quite controlled in some way it can still be damaging. It's moving in a no. So because because it's on wood which i didn't know either i just. I don't know why. I just assumed it was on canvas of course is on board for when it was made but also would expands and contracts with with the heat. Yeah with heat and kunas f. Anyone doesn't doesn't do that. So that's why it. An incredible case nowadays c-a-b-a climate controlled. And it's just yes so. It arrived back damaged the damage but they decided to kim discussed the painting bear. And also. Because it's a huge wake the museum to get money while that's true. That is i mean as of yet. Laxity yeah lending. The painting would be huge loss for the museum. Mona so that's how she's back safe. But that's where she's been safe zones in the loop. This is where you'll find her and legally and france. She's no alleged to move. It is against the law that she's removed from france yet has to save their which is incredible. But it's of had a rough time. She's not been loved by everybody. A couple of them run ins with people. She's actually been attacked a few times. You you have an some examples of times when she's been attacked Gordon what terrible people done to pomona so before before trip in the. Us nineteen fifty six. Bullying boy came to the museum and threw a stone at it. So damage damage the painting. I'm maybe you will. I will send the image okay so the image that we're talking about am as mona but with a horrendous crank twos of unavailable on her elbow at the bottom right of the canvas i mean and it was a small child. That did this through a child. time it would just go working in caffeine perez. All right okay. Any explained that he has so much anger against the painting that he just needed to attacked it. Okay and then. This is when the decided. We're gonna we're gonna have some factor into movies and put more security on this it even if it had glass before but soon how to prevent that to happen again more than in japan. Nineteen seventy four. When she was on her holiday lady do some red painting on monalisa. She rate pain on your. She was of course protected. She threw painting on the on the glass case. They're just because she. She was thinking that the young people were really bad dole for this exhibition so so it was a protest for the lack of disabled accessibility. I mean if you're gonna protest Absolutely it's away to be. The work was fine survived. She landing her that time she was protected. People were people knew what to do and more recently in two thousand nine a russian lady through an empty mug at monopolies up unnecess- as she threw you can Yet it was a team but she threw a financial reason. We she never gave proper Explanation why she did but In that by that point in time she had this ridiculous Gerald ninety was already speaks in this big box while that set and you can't even get anywhere near her is where phil As a survivor. She's she's been through the wolves or some others. She's she's everything you could want women and more yes. She's an icon Very nicely at lisa's zone to sort of our last section talking about mona. So as you are well aware by now this is a painting is steeped in history and as beloved by millions but also has a low of interesting fun facts also a lotta van conspiracy theories as well and this is how you ended your blog post which i will leave a link to the description for anyone that wants to the wants to read it and i just loved it. Cecilia and could you tell us your wonderful fun. Facts mona so i. I could learn that mona lisa. Is that joe coon infringe come from jakarta which means happy italian. Oh okay okay. So it was the nickname of her husband and she took it from him to And lushes chrome condo chicago. Which is happy that you aren't which may be explains the mystery behind the wheel or true. Okay might have fun of crack I may have cracked to people. You had to hear far south. I am now a days. The second point i would mention news. That noah days of the value of lisa is probably estimated around several billion euros. Okay rain so it's just impossible for people just do in buying it and it's also forbidden friends to sell it. There was some discussion at some point. Brian sale when the lisa to pay some french debt. No yes they did but because she's the masterpiece in some yet she's an icon of france. None of nikon. Yeah no i. I i will send when i caught absolutely shish as an icon. She's incredible ended so as it by law that she's not allowed to be sold. You think that's really clever. I do think as part of the french museums collection collection. So it's just part of the french museum okay. Good fucked and put your wallets away. The fact i would mention is that melissa still has people working for her own everyday at least six people working for her security. She has ruined security team yet. The one in the room okay. Also video security end all things around it while there you are not only Proper iconic status the nfl. You have working for you and your painting fourth okay. Lisa has grown may blocks it is it is the fact that pushed me to rightly article between. I discovered that it was like incredible. She has run mail books. People can ride to her so she received love letters so many times she received wedding questions and questions. I don't yes. Oh she's she receives proposals yet. Proposals love letters. I personally and this is. This is one of the first fox at ever learned about. The mona lisa is that she had a post her own. Postbox on Blew my mind i mean. I've never personally felt the need to write to me to a painting Maybe we just haven't met the right one and another interesting fact is that melissa's face has no hair next year. So this is something. I didn't realize until i read that spot in his truth and by that you mean of course she has here on her head but she has no eyelashes. She has no eyebrows on galway. Look at it because you're going to be like hi. It's something that you don't notice once you see it. You can't unsee it another fact. They are not one that plenty throughout the world. Oh okay and if you go and have luke you can find really similar painting in madrid in no way in baltimore maryland. You're say also on the army touch museum in russia really. If you observe those paintings are really really similar. So they've never. They've never been attributed to leonardo da vinci They are attributed to his studio. Your chaos. it's just really interesting to see the the several version of mona lisa and the last but nutley. The music convey in rennes has version of manila lisa naked. No there's a naked version of You don't really see abreast or anything like that but it is a drawing so we don't know if it's preparation before l. k. and a hair as And covering her motor state asked me but say philly. I know really here we go. Oh wow and they think as it is attributed to leonardo. i'm so anyone that's at is essentially. Just mona i mean. Her face is very different than when she has a problem with. That is so it's might be just a preparer three dwelling on radio case Why they're notching feminine. Kaz has really strong harm. Yeah we don't know if it's an gene version of monalisa or just another person on the painting that right it has been named the naked wail centuries it. That was your last fun. Fought i to have some fun. Fox and conspiracy theory which i'm going to share with you because it's history and i love a fun fact if you follow my instagram. I love posting. Do post a sculpture and a painting. And then i also post a fun fact 'cause elephant so my fun fact leads very nicely from your last one and is a conspiracy that the mona lisa is actually a portrait of leonardo davinci drug. Yes we don't know because it also could be one of his assistant to we don't know vo that set anjem online. These amazing sort of overlaps is a very famous pin so drawing Of lear nargile and be very cleverly mattered them on top of each other. Which of course can manipulate endure. Anything on photoshop nowadays and But i would go and have a look at it at tip shoe in the. Oh it could be so. That's maybe the very first depiction within our history of a man in drag. So you are. That's my fun fact. The second is that it is not in its original which might not say surprising but there's been conservation work done to it on the free and that is currently it's been has been it's free since nineteen o nine bought conservation work has been done. And it's been several frames over its lifetime and it's nineteen eleven to nineteen eleven wail because of of the While you in so yeah so so. Several frames bought its edges have also been trimmed at least once in its life so the paintings ages have been trimmed at least once to fetter for free so there. You are cerebral frames on. It's also been trams. Bought the ducey that none of the layers of paint have been cut into just of excess board and my final fund fat which is actually a huge conspiracy theory on. There's a really excellent episode of this or a podcast called Where dave into this and we were detail than what we're gonna just do now but at a legal linked to that in the show notes his way. Oh that is believed that the mona lisa mona who reeks and thirty thousand three hundred thousand visitors a day. Actually a fake weird. What do you think of this as a french. National does make you few aid can be true really hoax. I know he don't. They might strange parts picking now. It would be really surprising to be true. Yeah because they just spending so much time. Just checking the painting all of the time they. They moved it in the museum a few months ago. Sorry because they were redoing the room and they moved it at that time. They've done checks to see if everything was fine and it would be really weird for them not to realize it's a fake one yet while there's another conspiracy theory that the it's the louvre. That decided after it was stolen that it was so precious and so there's to actually so it was one one is after it was stolen in nineteen eleven. I returned in nineteen thirteen. They though actually this is really precious. Hamlets copy on will keep the one locked away Second time when these rumors started to sell flare up the kupa copy was way and it was saint a during what were to. Obviously the nazis where advancing on france. And what we was. It was a of a worldwide fang. Where museums on churches clear there so precious belongings and it was a charge for example stained glass windows were removed and they were all put into storage invokes on castles. That were not in nevada. The front front yet exactly. And this is wade. They decided that that will be conspiracy theory as the one point the saints to an infantry registered volts that everything was gonna be Ten on the nazis invaded on to the loop which the debt they would be to track down where moon awards so the idea was the self scotty turtle and a different. So that classic decoy move. I'm which is just so interesting and from one painting at just the the history. This is what i love about our history as you can see a painting and think that's all there is to know us as a person with the about grind and she's famous because she's Fm going on this unbelievable huge tail that stretches centuries and as always so interesting even to modern day standards as she just keeps Discovering inflammation with her. Let's forget the kardashians guys original ghetto. Here we go. Latest latest trend about her was to publish. how healthy or not she was. American doctors realized that she was really sick. That they've not thought about it. 'cause varnish because She looked really yellow. She's not really so is that why thought she was saying so. They thought she had a problem with rid of fuel Thyroid yet young. And they mention all her program from painting and because if s king was yellowish she realistic or it's just sun damage because she's oh yes those really sunny she might help above a ton. Anyway i think that is a perfect place to leave and hope. Is you guys thanking seal yet. Thank you so much for being so generous with your time on your knowledge. I'm being so enthusiastic. And speaking about mona lisa or logicon leisure loudly. Yes i knew a new debt before you go. And where can people at finance this article every bit more. Because you on a lovely bloke as well yeah. I i have a an art blog. Name la swelled hijack or swing inspired by my favorite painting On this on. I try to publish as regularly as i can. Various subject on on works be stoical. It could be just focusing on work year artists. I'll leave linked to that in the show notes below. And as you've probably guessed celia as french so the the blog is range. But don't let that stop. Google translate as an incredible resource and actually when few articles. Earning holiday arden from the time pair fate. And also if you want to practice your french and your history click away onto you. Spoke thunk you. So much pena amazing even amusing. Thank you have the end of another episode of the jews are test report cast. I would just like to take this opportunity again to thanks for being so passionate and generous in both her tame. Shooting colonel on this incredible piece which i hope we have learned a little something to i. Definitely what can we do. We more knowledgeable history of his painting injuring as well as a little bit more. But all live as where during the compensation. We discussed the fate of the thief of the mona lisa. And there's a back and forth weird. He was jailed on. It's just to see that he was actually imprisoned head etteleat so they are in case. You were wondering. That's where he ended up. If you've enjoyed do podcast please make sure that you've lake scrape and if you think anyone could enjoy listening or benefit from listening to this podcast and please feel free to pass it on to get in touch. You can email me. Joyce art history at djamil dot com or you can phase me on instagram to his art history. You can get contact with me all images that we discussed this podcast will be available to either on my instagram page. As well as my website on links to that and shoot below likes to see below. I will not try to picture the french language and anymore than i have jury which leads to serious blog which is incredibly interesting. Our little as well in the show notes faintly. Thank you to you for listening. Even joy episode as much as i did recording it and i look forward to seeing you next time on the jaws. Art podcast but i.
Haitian Revolution Began / Vincenzo Peruggia stole "Mona Lisa" - August 21
"Today's episode is brought to you by oxy clean. So I went on a backpacking trip that other weekend as per usual I ended up with a bunch of smelly close at the end of it, but I used oxy clean odor blasters on the load of laundry before I did it. It was super easy and I came out with some super fresh smelling clothes. You've got to try oxy clean odor blasters for yourself to work your magic with oxy clean go to oxy dot com slash try me an order of free sample that's oxy clean dot com slash T., r. y. m. e. for a free odor blaster sample while supplies last. Guys, it's bobby bones, host Bobby Jones show, and I'm pretty much always sleepy because wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple hours later. I get all my friends together. We get into a room and we do a radio show which are alive. We tell our stories we try to find as much good in the World v possibly can, and we look through the news of the day that you'll care about also. Your favorite country artists are always stopping by the hang out and share their lives and music to so wake up with a bunch of my friends I ninety eight point seven W. MC q in Washington dc or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio. App Hey, everyone technically, you're getting two days in history today because we're running two episodes from the history vault, you'll also hear to host me and Tracy Wilson Hope you enjoy. Welcome to this day in history class from how stuff works dot Com and from the desk of stuff you missed in history class. It's the show where we explore the past one day at a time with a quick look at what happened today in history. Welcome to the podcast I'm Tracy Wilson and it's August twenty. First, the Haitian Revolution began on a state in seventeen ninety one, Haiti at the time was the Caribbean colony of Sange which was held by France, and it made huge amounts of money for France through the sugar industry. The enslaved population who was working at those sugar plantations was the vast majority of the colony's population. This was true. A lot of places that were relying on Chattel slavery to do their Labor often the enslaved workforce was vastly larger than the enslavers who were living there. Vast majority in the case of Sandino was about thirty thousand white people about twenty four, thousand free people of Color and four, hundred and fifty thousand enslaved Africans and people of African descent. The people who were enslaved on the sugar plantations were doing just grueling work in punishing climate that was also prone to. Tropical Diseases. In terms of enslaved people that conditions were particularly horrifying then the French Revolution started that affected the entire French empire including France's colonies and other parts of the world. And as they heard about what was happening in the French Revolution the free people of Color in Santa. Manage. Started demanding full citizenship rights. The free people of Color definitely had a lot more rights than the enslaved people. Some of them also enslaved people themselves, but they didn't have the same rights as the white population some but definitely, not all of demands white citizens were. Also thinking about making some kind of move for independence from France. So there was a lot going on and a rebellion by the free people of color in seventeen ninety was really quickly put down then in August of seventeen, ninety one, the uprising started among the enslaved people and it was really violent. The most well known leaders of this uprising were Jacques. Selene and Francois. To Sir who would later take the name Toussaint L'Ouverture these two were really good at organizing and its strategy and by seventeen ninety three, the enslaved people had taken over a portion of the colony. France was really on its way to defeat at this point in the colony, but it was also at war with Spain and Britain, and so this blossomed into an international conflict with other nations seeing the chance to possibly claim send demand or their own and with the enslaved people seeing opportunities to work with some of these other countries to fight back against France and France, gave the more affluent. Freeman of color full citizenship rights basically because they were backed into a corner and France abolished slavery in its colonies in seventeen ninety four. This meant that they enslaved people who've been working with France's enemies then switched sides because there's enemies had not yet abolished slavery eventually to sow lower tour named himself governor general for life and eighteen o one although he did die in France eighteen thirty three. After being captured and imprisoned all in all this revolution went on from seventeen ninety, one to eighteen o four, and in the end, the colony gained independence from France declared independence on January first eighteen, O four and was renamed. Hedi it became the first country to be founded by formerly enslaved people although life in Haiti did continue to be really difficult since nearly its whole population had been enslaved. For All of this time, and it had no opportunity to build their own wealth. The legacy of slavery also continues to affect life and culture in the economy of Haiti all the way up until today the effect of this revolution on the United States was also huge as was the case before the uprising, the enslaved population of the American south in most places greatly outnumber the enslaving. White population. And a lot of places people had already been really scared of slave. And the fact that this had happened in Haiti and it had been successful main people even more terrified simultaneously there were others than the nation who were just ready to start trading with this newly independent nation. But the people who were terrified of this whole situation wound up becoming even more strict and harsh and draconian, and how they treated their slave population in the hope of preventing this kind of thing from happening in the United States. You can learn more about all this in the January twenty seventh twenty, ten episode of stuff you missed in history class and thanks to Tari. Here's some for audio work. On this show, you can subscribe to this day in history class, apple podcasts, Google podcasts, and wherever you get your podcasts. Tomorrow tune in for a set of rules governing warfare. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your teenager to help around the house? Okay. Mom Empty The dishwasher vacuum basement and folded the sheets out of the dryer what Oh and next I'm GonNa Clean Litterbox we in some kind of prank show or something that's a camera isn't it? There's never been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details We've all been in lockdown for months glued to the news Russian, political meddling and economic meltdown, and of course, the global pandemic I'm Rhonda. Tina Dob Louis and we're the hosts of through line. NPR's history podcast from typhoid Mary Force into quarantine for thirty years to conspiracy theories and all American pastime listen to through line on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to this day in history class where we bring you a new tidbit from history every day. Day Was August twenty first nineteen. Eleven An Italian beef name been Tinto Peruta stole the Mona Lisa from the Louvre Museum in Paris. Peruta moved to Paris in Nineteen O eight in one, thousand, nine eleven he worked at the Louvre as a handyman fixing the glass in the displays. Months before he would still the Mona Lisa a French reporter stayed overnight at the Louvre. In a sarcophagus to show how bad surveillance at the museum lies. The Lube did not have the best measures in place to protect the artwork from theft. For instance, many of the paintings were hanging and easy to take off the wall. By many accounts, Peruta? No Stranger to the personnel in the museum. The Louvre on the evening of Sunday. August twentieth nineteen eleven wearing the same white smocks that the loop employees war he went to the gallery that held the Mona Lisa and hid in a closet until the museum closed. Then he took the Mona Lisa out of its frame and walked out with it under his spot on the twenty-first. But PERUTA himself said that he entered the lose on the morning of Monday. August twenty first grabbed the Mona Lisa off the wall when nobody was in the gallery and left with it under his small. Either way he took the painting back to his apartment. The. Theft went unnoticed for a whole day since paintings were often removed for cleaning or for photos. But the day after the theft security guards realized that the artwork was. And reported that theft to the police. Police launched an investigation into the crime. The Mona Lisa's frame was found in a stairwell and the museum announced the deaf to the public. The museum closed for a Week The press jumped on the story which became international news the next two years. Fans of the Mona Lisa and loop visitors express their frustration with the theft of the beloved artwork. Investigators questioned witnesses in stopped cars and pedestrians for searches, but they weren't turning up any leads. The newspaper Paris Journal was. Bored for information about the death and a man named Joseph puree went to its office with a small statue he claimed that he stole from the Lou. He wants worked for the poet Guillaume apollinaire. Called for the Lube to be burns down and had several small statues that were stolen from the Louvre. puree implicated apollinaire and the Mona Lisa theft. But investigators did not think that apollinaire committed the crime alone. So they went after Picasso to who was a friend of apollinaire and bought stolen statues from puree. But after their trial apollinaire and Picasso were let off the hook. The investigation went cold though people continue to speculate on the painting's whereabouts. Some claimed they saw it in Brazil or Japan some said it was in the mansion of Financier J. P. Morgan. But PERUTA had been keeping the Mona Lisa Hidden. He insisted that he just wanted to return it to Italy where it rightfully belonged as Napoleon has stolen it though it was not plundered under Napoleon. Whether or not he was being truthful when he gave the justification for the theft has been up for debate. In nineteen thirteen, he tried to sell the painting using the pseudonym Leonardo Vincenzo. He wrote to an art dealer in Florence named Alfredo Jerry saying he would bring the painting to Italy in exchange for five, hundred, thousand lire. Jerry agreed and Perrugia took the Mona Lisa to Italy. Jerry said that we see gallery would authenticate the painting. But instead of buying the painting Jerry reported Russia to the police. He was arrested on December eleventh in his hotel. Gallery displayed the Mona Lisa for a couple of weeks before it was returned to the Louvre in January of nineteen fourteen. Peruta was convicted of theft in August of nineteen fourteen and sentenced to just over a year in prison though he served less time in that. Art Enthusiast and critics showed renewed interest in the Mona Lisa after its return. 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Stealing the Mona Lisa
"The Mona, Lisa is unquestionably the most famous painting in the World Heck. It's probably the most famous work of art in the world yet the reason why it's so famous is due to an event which happened on the twenty first of August nineteen eleven. If it wasn't for the events of that day, the Mona Lisa would probably just be another painting hanging on the walls of the loop. Find out what happened to make the Mona Lisa so famous in this episode of everything everywhere daily. This episode is brought to you by the travel photography, Academy. Have you ever been on a trip in wondering why your photos don't turn out like the images you see in travel magazines. If you're going to spend thousands of dollars on a trip and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a camera, you owe it to yourself to get the highest quality images from your trip. That's why I created the travel photography. Academy I set out to travel around the world in two thousand, seven with an expensive camera and I had no idea how to use it as. As I traveled around the world I told myself the art of travel photography, eventually mastering it to a point where I was named travel photographer of the year three times in North America. The travel photography academy is an online course that teaches you everything you need to know to master your camera and to take better photos on your next trip to improve your photography and to get better images on your next trip visit, travel, photography, Academy, Dot Com or click on the link in the show notes. The Mona Lisa is perhaps the greatest painting by Leonardo. Da Vinci there only about fifteen paintings by Leonardo which still exists and there are debates as to the authenticity of several of them. The Mona Lisa however is unquestionably a Leonardo. Painting is of a noblewoman from. Florence named Lisa G Condo. The, Term Mona Lisa just means the lady Lisa in Italian it is only known as the Mona Lisa an English Italian. It's known as Lodge Kanda and in French. It's La Joe conned. Painting itself is an oil painting on poplar wood panels. Leonardo worked on the painting for years taking it with him in the last years of his life when he went to work in the court of King Francis, the first in France is estimated that it was painted between fifteen three fifteen o six, but there are estimates that he may have worked on it as long as fifteen seventeen. Image is one of the best examples of his motto technique, which consists of very small brushstrokes to create very soft transitions between colors without any harsh lines. It is undeniably his masterpiece. The Mona Lisa became the possession of King Francis upon the death of Leonardo and stayed in the palace Fontham blue under the possession of the French crown until the French revolution of seventeen ninety seven when it was placed on display in the loop. It remains there Intel today for a brief period where it was hung in the bedroom of Napoleon. All of these things make the Mona Lisa very significant, painting an important painting, an interesting painting, but it doesn't explain why. A portrait of an otherwise unknown woman from Italy is the most famous painting in the world to understand that we need to fast forward to August twenty first nine hundred eleven on that day, the Mona Lisa disappeared. Literally just vanished. He was hanging on the wall with several other paintings, and no one even noticed it was gone until the next day when it was discovered missing by the painter Louis Barada. There is a great deal of confusion. At first, the museum thought that the painting might have been taken to get photographed eventually. They realized that the painting had in fact been stolen, and the blame was I pointed in the direction of modern arts. The first person taken into custody was the French poet. Yoma apollinaire was a vocal critic of Classic Art. He was held for about a week and then pointed the finger at his friend Pablo. Picasso eventually, both men were exonerated of the crime. All the borders France were put on alert and everyone going out of the country had their belongings search ships were prevented from leaving port until the vessels were searched for the painting the day after the theft, it was headline news around the world papers in Sao Paulo New York London Washington report the news in Paris. The papers expressed outrage at the loss of a national treasure. The French magazine illustration wrote what audacious criminal. What Mr Fire What Mana collector. What insane lover has committed this abduction. They offered a reward of forty thousand francs, which works out to a bit under A. A thousand dollars today their competitor, the Paris Journal then up the reward fifty thousand francs in the weeks after the theft conspiracy theories as to who might have stolen it became popular pastimes in the media, rewards and false leads began pouring in from all over the world, the Louvre remained closed for almost a month, and when it reopened, crowds of people lined up just to see the empty spot on the wall where the missing Mona Lisa used to hang some even left flowers in front of the empty spot on the wall as if they were honoring someone who had died. The trail went cold and for two years there were no leads in the case. In November! Nineteen thirteen, an art dealer in Florence named Alfredo Gary received a letter from a man called Leonardo. Who claimed to have the Mona Lisa in his possession? He said he was an Italian, who was suddenly seized with the desire to return his country to at least one of the many treasures, which especially in the Napoleonic era been stolen from Italy, it should be noted that Napoleon didn't steal the Mona Lisa. It had been in France since the death of Davinci. Gerry contact of the gallery and was given information about the back of the painting that no one else would know unless they had access to the actual. Mona Lisa after weeks of cat-and-mouse, Gerry and the men named Leeann. Yard finally met in Florence where the painting was produced and Gary was able to authenticate it as the real. Mona Lisa the to took the painting. And the man who had the painting was arrested. The man who called himself by the codename Leonardo was actually Vincenzo Peruggia was an Italian. Who is a low level employee at the leave? The Heist was one of the most simplest capers ever carried out. Peru simply visited Lou on the day before on a Sunday ducked into the storage closet, stayed there overnight, and then walked out the next morning, wearing an artist smock took the painting off the wall, covered it up and walked out the door. During his trial it was determined that he had acted alone and was sentenced to one year and fifteen days in prison after a sentencing, he was reported to have said it could have been worse. When the painting was announced, having been recovered, the media went into overdrive. And this is when the Mona Lisa became the most famous painting in the world, the Italian government agreed to return the painting, but they did so in a very roundabout way taking the painting to major cities in Italy for exhibition, while slowly working their way to France in each city, tens of thousands of people showed up to see the painting for themselves. On the first day it was returned to the loof over one hundred thousand people showed up to gaze upon Francis. Return treasure. Since. The painting was returned. The Mona Lisa has remained the most famous painting in the world. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, two, and nineteen, sixty three, the painting was on loan in the United States where it was valued at over one hundred million dollars for insurance purposes, which would be worth eight hundred and fifty million dollars today with the recent sale of Leonardo's painting Salvator Mundi for four hundred fifty million dollars is estimated that the Mona Lisa would have a value of over two point five billion dollars at auction today, the popularity of the painting is best described by the director of the Louvre that eighty percent of the ten million annual visitors who go to the museum each year. Go directly to see the Mona Lisa. And leave. This is a brand new podcast, and as such you can really use your support if you know someone who is curious and you think like the show, please share it with them. 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Boston Reacts To A Devastating Week Of Community Violence
"It was a heartbreaking fourth of July weekend. In Boston seven people were killed in under a week. The youngest was fifteen year olds. Xavier Rodriguez. Who went by Rico here's Boston. Mayor Marty Walsh, speaking at press conference yesterday. Every act of violence certainly causes waves of lasting trauma throughout community. Every loss of life is heartbreaking for every single victim and for their families. And when you see a fifteen year old boy here fifty year old boy lose his life. It hits home even hotter. How senseless these acts of violence! In these impacts trillion are. We want to have a discussion about it today and we invite you to call. How are you reacting to the news of so much death last week? Have you or your community benefited by community? Violence policy changes would like. Would you like to see to help end community violence? What are the systemic changes that we need? And Are you expressing your empathy and compassion this week? You can call us at one, eight, hundred, four, two, three, eight, two, five, five. That's one eight, hundred four to three. Talk or tweet us at Radio Boston said to have a conversation now joining us is rufus former director of the city's Office of Public Safety. Rufus welcome to Radio Boston. Mad Any. And also with Mona Lisa Smith. She's the founder and President of the nonprofit organization mothers for Justice Inequality. Mona Lisa back to Radio Boston. Hello, Theon, thank you for having me. As I was thinking about how to start this conversation. Today I was thinking about the fact that we know most people don't want to die in most people don't harm or kill someone else and yet. There was so much loss and death and pain in a short period of time last week in our city. Going on what's happening here, Rufus? So I think it's important for us to recognize that what we saw this past weekend. Is Sort of continuation that has inflicted upon Austin for the last thirty plus years. I'm thirty eight years old, and I've been going to funerals for my peers since I was thirteen and I haven't taken a year off it it's there's been a culture of retaliatory gun violence that has existed within our city. Has. been confined. To certain neighborhoods, so I think what what we saw pass because just a continuation of that on our side in terms of the city we've trying to do was trying to make sure that we engage those individuals most likely to be part of. Gun violence whether it be the perpetrators of potential victims trying to bring resources trying to make sure we provided empathetic ear. I think taking my city at all for a second I think it's time that we recognize that. This has to be a city wide initiative. We just can't be the residence Roxbury. Dorchester, being the ones on the frontlines has to be all of Boston's neighborhoods, really standing up and saying that we WANNA make sure that we are ending this culture of gun violence and make sure that we are doing things to. Show that fifteen or sixteen who who grown up on bonus that they are part of the city and best. What some of the message that we're trying to put onto the community. Mona Lisa. What are you hearing from? The mothers of Mothers for Justice and Equality and and other members over these last few days. who I think we'll absolutely correct and saying that that here experiencing a continuation of gun violence, and and what we're doing and feeling. This is fear right a continuation of the. Amount of that gun violence, which is fear, which is confusion, which is a a hopelessness and that's. WHAT WE'RE HEARING! That's what people are failing that that this is continuing to happen and when we see. The change when when the change happened where we no longer are burying fifteen year olds where we're no longer waking up. to the sounds of gunfire is when we no longer are hearing you know done shots in the middle of the night waking up to the news where base just this loss of life and and I think that's the word continue. It's a continual impact, and for many who have You know we've talked about that he has. been experiencing this and for so many years so saying victims will. So as mother's productive quality and so many other agencies work to move. People forward helped him to to heal from those from those loans in those losses. We're going back to square one because they'll. Open you know the mother who lost a fifteen year old Five years ago or ten years ago now has to relive that moment when she hears up another mother Lutheran Cart Child, so that's the. I'm. Sorry to interrupt I didn't I just want to turn back to Rufus about that. Specifically Mona Lisa just used terms like. Fear hopelessness reopening of wounds. What is the city's role? In addressing the trauma of these deaths? The trauma of this lost the reopening of old wounds. Is Mona Lisa talks about both in terms of moving forward and in terms of future prevention? I think the first part is we operate fully recognizing and acknowledging that those exists I think that that's an important part of it recognizing that shooting that happens on humble avenue. Again. Is is triggering thing for those folks who have lived in that community for the last twenty years. That has been a continuous process for them so much so that folks are so traumatized. That would hot weather comes in our thinking about all the fun activities that they can do. They're fearful that another shooting was going to occur so as a city in terms of trauma. We're trying to make sure that when God forbid when an incident does happen that we have all of. Of Our trump support net. Where was it i? Be Unable. Trauma Teams Boston Trauma Trauma Response units and our partners who work within the hospital to make sure that they are there to be helpful to help individuals put the pieces together, but also there for the community that they know that they can lean on on on us at those tons of me. We're trying to be now trying to be more more preventative and more collaborative, so will have are Boston Public School. Service providers working with us. We have our street outreach teams Boston sorting move street workers out there trying to prevent violence or partner with would be PD around deployment, so we're trying to make sure that we on both ends. We're trying to be preventative. Making sure that we are identifying those families andled individuals most in need, and when things do happen, God forbid were trying to make sure that we're providing services and getting services to those who actually need them. One, eight, hundred, four, two, three, eight, two, five, five. That's one eight hundred four to three talk to join this conversation. Have you been impacted by this violence, are you your family? Members loved ones taking advantage of the city services. Maybe you belong to Mj and are doing work with them or another community organization. What are you think of the policy? Steps that need to come next I want to turn to both of you at the same time. Now Rufus in Monalisa. You've used the word fear a lot. We've talked about trauma. We're already in a scary time. There's a pandemic out there exacerbating so many things and the numbers this year are tough. There have been twenty two fatal shootings in Boston this year compared to eighteen at this time last year, and that's also higher than the five year average of seventeen for this time of year so how? How is the pandemic? Is the pandemic affecting or exacerbating root issues that are in play here? Well, when I think the pen, the pandemic is This Def definitely exasperating the situation and I think one of the things that you mentioned was really tensions that are happening well, so you have the pen, you have those racial tensions, and then you have the street violence that has never. Gone Away but is just continuing when the weather gets warm and and not that we don't have strong partnerships, and there's not a prevention and collaborative street outreach. Things are happening there and they are working because we don't have the same numbers. As Chicago hats you know, so something is happening, but you know like we all can agree on one life. Loss is too many. One person shot is too many, so you have these three things happening at the same time, and so the wolves are opening from just some of the racial tensions, and some of the things that are bubbling up and that that have been happening to people in these communities that have been undisturbed. Who Works? An injustice and inequality with just not getting murdered, resolved with not getting proper public safety with with not trusting police, so those things are starving to surface even more, and then you have culprit nineteen, so you have people who are already feeling anxiety. They're already feeling. You know all of these things trauma that are trauma related and then with the pandemic. We need you to stay inside right. We need to keep the children inside, so we need you all to stay inside where we know that one of the things that we do to help people. recovery from trauma is get them out of isolation back into the population back serving, so we have to reverse that now to protect them. You know for our health perspective, so all of these things are are having an impact on the emotional health of individuals who are living in neighborhoods with. Lots of trauma. Rufus. There are two things that Mona Lisa talked about there that I wanna ask you follow up questions on the first. She talked about racial tensions. In our third month of protests over the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis by police officers, their Mona Lisa mentioned. Follow up on on these homicides. How we've had protests in Boston for weeks now about police brutality racial tensions. How do we move forward on the the prosecution prevention side of this with law enforcement in this tense moment. That's a great question. I think it has to start with. An acknowledgement of where these tensions emerged from recognizing that it was not simply about Joey. Floyd, it was about it goes back to emit goes back like these all is, it's been a a compounded a- compounding effect of trauma and dislike. It seemed like Joe. Joe's flows like the straw that broke the camel's back, and recognizing the history of where the tinges emerged from I think is going to be a critical point, then also having on his conversation dialogues with our law enforcement, and being able to understand their perspective them, understanding I respected within figuring out the way in which the community believes that it should be police in the way it should be monitored It's I. Don't I don't have all the answers for that. I just know a lot of it's GONNA come down to US having real honest and tough conversations and not just happened. He's honest of conversations in Roxbury. Dorchester Matt Pain has to be a city wide initiative the same energy we have with one Boston Marathon bombing occur. We have to have the same energy around these issues. It has to be a citywide neighborhood approach gus. The only way in which will be would have sustainability because I don't. Don't want my seven year old daughter down. If you'd fight any same fight, wishy seventeen eighteen years also really going to to end in this sort of current climate or address, it finally overly heal these wounds We have to be willing to have honest and transparent conversations across social economic backgrounds in racial and ethnic o f F. The gloves excuse me. Seven minutes skipped. Mis kick the other question I was going to ask you because I. WanNa follow another thread with both of you here. Based on what I've heard from Mona Lisa in what you just said. Rufus earlier this week on the show, we had scholar A. Mex- Kennedy who has a book on how to be an anti-racist, and he told me that a racist research question asks what's wrong with the person and that an anti-racist research question asks what's wrong with policies are institutions so embracing that idea in this question? Then what are the policies and institutions that we should be looking at critically right now as failing young people if we are seeing as you said Rufus thirty years? Of this kind of violence. I think we have to definitely look at public education. They have to look at our Boston. Public schools and we have to listen to our children who have been raising issues regarding you know feeling, some kind of way about equality. Right before the racial tensions came about our children were were activated. They were talking about it. We saw a globe article that said that our children are are dropping out of school. We saw article that said that our children get into college are not finishing We know that the the test or exams. is is not equal, and that many minar children are not getting into those those exam schools, so we have to look at public education. We also have to be mindful of the school to prison. Pipeline has not gone away that we have to be more proactive, and and not incarcerating our children. We also have to look at how many parents and in their families are being incarcerated, so I think there's a lot of systems that have to be looked at and and change the way we behave toward them. and and there's plenty of policies. That has to be addressed. And says, is housing right so one particular policy that has been there and not addressed is when our young people may make a mistake right, and and they are charged with that mistake. That's family has to walk from the public health. That mother has to make choice between whether she's going to keep a Rupa with the head of the other children, and said the other child out back into the street because they can't stay there. That is a problem. That has to be addressed in order for us to really be able to rehabilitate our children and and heal our family. The answer. Wimbley. So what do we do about that Rufus? How do we support the family? The Way Mona Lisa's talking about there and I'll ask you more specifically. The city has launched a new racial equity fund How can funds from that program for example be used to target some of these systems changes policy changes that Mona Lisa's talking about. So the first part is I think every every institution, city and state, but also community institutions have to be looked at in assess to see, are they exacerbating biases own discrimination against black and Brown residents in the city of Boston, but also nationwide and I think that if we're talking about making sure that we're targeting families and targeting. In, with the idea of being the close gaps around whether it be achievement whether it be around opportunity access then that's where funds can come in. That's where money allocated directly in the hands of those who need it the most we can see a level of systems changing out a lot of this is driven by poverty, a lot of the issues we see within the inner city neighbors that we serve on poverty driven and. We could. Be More intentional around addressing that route 'cause I think a lot of the other sort of unintended consequences that we see would also be addressed so. It it, it's a lot we live. We live in a country that was founded on racist ideal, so until we can actually grapple with that history is going to be really hard for us to really pick and choose what policies in programs WanNa address the entire foundation. His Foundation of this country was based on this premise. So while we have that. As the as the basic premise, then is going to be difficult for us to build on top of that until we address that aroo foundation so it it is deeper than anyone conversation one policy, but I think if we really we're really intentional serious about addressing What ails this country in the city? It has to start from the foundation and we move forward, but it's again. Every every policy that impacts on communities should always be addressed should always be assessed, and we always see there, because you can have the best intentions, but be. If you don't have contests, you'll have community by. You can have unintended consequences so i. Go, I'm sorry, go ahead. Sorry, I'm sorry I. Don't mean to interrupt you, but we only have about a minute left before the break. I, DO WANNA. Give Mona Lisa one more chance to come back in here and only with about a minute left. Let's not a message of hope. Where are you finding? Hope and inspiration right now. I hope and and the resiliency of the people. That through all of this you know whether it be a pandemic losing our children to senseless violence, dealing with racial tensions at that many of us have dealt with you know income numb to I, find resiliency, and the people that through all this the people continue to rise up continue to have a voice in the middle of a discussion and continue to maintain a sense of hope I find hope in the protesters and young people from all different cultural background racist coming together instinct that enough is enough. We are tired of being tired so I think the whole lies in the resiliency of the people. I mean hearts broken right I can't. Can't sit here and say that my heart is not broken. When a fifteen year old loses their life, I can't say that my heart is not broken when I read about seventy year old losing their life to to senseless street violence, I cannot say that, but I can't say that I must hold hope in the midst of violence and believe that change is going to happen so I believe all everything is lined up to create the change that we need and I believe that we are going to see that change. That change is going to come to pack. Unfortunately, we have to go through these storms, but change is GonNa Happen. That's Mona Lisa Smith founder and President of the nonprofit organization mothers for Justice and Equality. Thanks Model Lisa. Your. And Rufus faulk director of the city's Office of Public Safety. Thanks to you, too. Thank you.
Episode 47 Leonardo!
"One day in eighteen, seventy, six and Bath County Kentucky meet fell from the sky. Meet meet me. Yes meet, and in twenty nineteen, we were weird enough to write a book about it. Not just any book because we can't do anything normal. What we decided to do is pretend that the only surviving piece of meat in the world which really doesn't this. Yeah, we made him the narrator of our store. I can't wait to share it with you. It is called the shower. It is available. Now, as we speak is me got enough you're talking right now. As you listen, and as I speak, it is available. Now you can go to our website the past curious dot com or the publisher's website early works dot com for more information. On needs. So you're telling me that they made a Mona Lisa entirely out of chewed bubblegum. Do you think it was the same person who the bubblegum? It's gross. Anyway. Welcome to the show. My name is Mick Sullivan, and this is the past and the curious. This episode is about Davinci and about a painting the DAVINCI painted. But another man stole. It's a fun show I'm really excited about it i. have some thank Yous I need to thank Lonnie powers from book power for kids. She played the role of a kind of F. trinket sort of character. If you've ever seen the hunger games and I'm also excited to welcome back at much request. I get a lot of requests to bring back Dr the Palaiseau professor. But I can't have him on very often because it's kind of hard to do. You know what I'm saying but he's here today if you don't know what Pailin domes mean well, I'll tell you before we get started. Anyway let's start the for story. To. The Renaissance, Oh Italy, how you have suffered through the darkness of the Middle Ages, and now here we are standing on the cusp of a new era where we will turn our minds to nature. Humans, and the world striving to understand how it all works, congratulations to us all. We've made it. This speech is not even remotely real though it was very well delivered. Thank you very much money, but it is easy to mistake this sentiment as something that people at the time might have actually felt. Most likely no one at the time realized that a new era, the renaissance had begun in the year fourteen hundred it's not like a giant switch flipped flooding the so called dark, ages with the bright light of the renaissance like US folks were just living their lives day to day. Most people will probably never even realized that the world was changing in such tremendous ways. It took historians to do that our story centers around Italy which in the early eighteen hundreds became the center of the renaissant. which radiated to the world the term renaissance refers to a time period that brought a new focus on philosophy and the arts sciences, understanding of the world and the mathematics behind it, and also a humans place in it. All like all other times it was also a period filled with wars and conflict because you know people right but it was a period of great advancement and achievement. Some of the greatest the world has ever known. The most famous and probably most important figure from this time and place was a left handed polymath who is unmarried and socially mismatched parents didn't even pay for him to be educated. Luckily for him and for the rest of us, he was really smart and he worked hard to keep getting smarter. No one could argue about his genius, His name was Leonardo Da Vinci. As. A young boy without the means for an Education Leonardo took advantage of the apprentice system in Italy, his natural ability with art and strong grasp of geometry and math, which she somehow learned without ever actually going to school earned him a spot as an apprentice to an artist in Florence named Ferruccio. Broke Yo is a leading painter and sculptor an his workshop near the Arno River Leonardo rose from sweeping the floors and mixing paints to working side by side with his master. It was not uncommon for an apprentice to handle much of the actual painting in a workshop and Leonardo was no different much of the painted onto canvases signed by Rubio was actually put there by Leonardo in fourteen seventy two at only twenty years of age Davinci officially became a master himself. This meant he could accept commissions for his own work which he did this how you made money. But he also found patronage or support from powerful political leaders. He moved to Milan to work under the Duke of Milan a man named sports. He originally got sports as attention by making him a lute from a horse go and silver. Which is pretty Nedal for being honest. This horse had instrument must have worked because sports decided to pay him a bunch of money. For Seventeen years in Milan, he made statues designed architectural features, created models and drawings. The even painted the masterpiece the last supper on the wall of the Monastery of Santa Maria. Della GRADS E. In addition to all of this, he was learning about the anatomy of living creatures, including people. Of course, do this he had to dissect cadavers or dead bodies? And to get these, he had to dig them up when no one was looking. Just pretty gross, but people learned a lot from his willingness to get his hands dirty. Honestly he was kind of a Rockstar people wanted to hire him for everything and he honestly left a lot of jobs unfinished because more. We're always coming his way. But when he did finish something, people would rush to see it and flocks like we might do for a concert or a Broadway show today. As. If this wasn't enough he was also designing some of the most incredible technology. The world has ever seen. Remember he was a polymath an expert at many thanks. Most of his designs were never actually built like a helicopter and a tank, a diving suit and a super mega gigantic crossbow. These just existed as detailed drawings in his many notebooks filled with a never ending flow of ideas. Some of his inventions did become real but either way he regularly impressed people with the constant highly detailed ideas that just seem to come to him and dreams but all of the military conflict and strife in Italy eventually changed his life. His rich princely friends Sforza. The Duke of Milan was overthrown. Fellows Sports. Your days are over. Over If it wasn't clear when this happened, Davinci had to ease on down the road looking for a new home phone. Now sorry that didn't really work either nice try though this time he wound up in Venice here in fifteen o two, he got to know, Cesar Borja. The borjas were one of the most powerful families actually probably the most powerful family Italy and not just because they're brother was the pope. They were good people to have as friends to say the least and Davinci was valuable to them for many reasons. Not, the least of which being his abilities with a weapon design. But DAVINCI like war, and he looked for ways to avoid it a situation arose involving the Arno River the Arno ran from Florence through Pisa and then to the sea. Rivers with the lifeblood of cities they allowed people to trade with everyone else along the river easily, but they also met access to the sea and ocean and this meant trade with the world, which was very important for a city like Florence. Unfortunately, pizza was in the way they had recently revolted against Florence which cramp the style of the powerful people there who were counting on open trade routes things headed for the ocean had to get through a I. This was a problem and traditional warfare had gone nowhere for decades and so Davinci. Came up with what he thought was a great. IDEA. You're going to do what? Of. River. Like Moo Cow. I'm going to move that I'm going to change the direction of that river. Moved me a rib bird. Oh, I see now is it still going to be a river though you're not going to like build a dam just flood the forest of would to make it a lake filled with timber right? Do you mean a Timberlake? No. I'm going to change the course of this river with my bare hands or. Actually. The hand of a bunch of laborers. Davinci and another famous man named Machiavelli came up with a plan to dig a new channel through the dry earth which the river would follow instead. They would divert the river so far that the path would travel all the way around Pisa leaving it high and dry. The original river path would be nothing more than a muddy trickle. There would be no water to sustain farms and people no water to trade on and most importantly no way to hold up. Lawrence's plans. They thought it was foolproof. Were they right. They were worse than right. They were wrong. Even a genius left-handed Italian polymath as a few failures. So as soon he left the service of the BORJAS and settled back in his native Florence where he began work in fifteen o three on what would one day become the most famous painting in the world. People. Still argue about it today and there certainly some mystery around it. But most believe it was a commission from a silk merchant named Francesco they'll gio condo the merchant Davinci to paint a portrait of his wife Lisa. By fifteen seven Davinci had yet finish it and even when he did though many believe it remains unfinished still. He never gave it to Francesco. Instead as Da Vinci continued to move around. Italy. He took the painting we know as the Mona Lisa with him. Did he do this because he had grown too attached to it. Because he wasn't satisfied with it and plan to work on it further. We just don't know, but we do know that he took it with him to France. When King Francois, I invited him to live and work there under his patronage. It was in Da Vinci possession when he died in fifteen nineteen, which was a full sixteen years after he was hired to paint. Lisa. Deljo condo. The painting was purchased from Davinci's assistant by that same French king who as an art loving royal had quite a collection of paintings. For years, he hung on the wall of one of his smaller royal homes of which he had several. Is reason to believe he hung it in the bathroom? Beatrice from Philadelphia, you have thirty seconds to tell us something. Awesome. I've already heard it and I know that at awesome. So why don't you tell the rest of the people? Beatrice in my here's Murray Marie Curie was born in Warsaw Poland on November seventh eighteen, sixty seven. She studied at the university and then she began her scientific studies and France. Then she married a man named here carry together they want to know vote prices Savvy Murray died from radiation poison but I know lifetime discovered two new radioactive elements radium and polonium and became the only woman to win two Nobel Prizes. Thank you so much that was awesome. Marie Curie is a fascinating person. I really appreciate you sending that, and if you have a submission for you have thirty seconds, there are instructions on our website. Oh, you really need is a voice recorder on a phone diseases that can't wait to hear what you said. You know I wonder if Davinci ever invented a machine that could tell me what time it is. Birth time. A. All right. Here we go. It's a quiz about Leonardo Da Vinci in the renaissance. So here we go win Napoleon's troops were in Milan in the early eighteen hundreds. What did they do with the giant FRESCO? We know as the last supper, it's multiple choice. Did they eat breakfast under it? Try to paint copies or use it for target practice. If you said they used it as target practice. You are correct though the Mona Lisa belonged to Napoleon at the time and reportedly traveled with him to hang in his commander's tent. His men weren't as interested in Renaissance Art. They used the last supper for target practice and years. Later, it had to be restored due to the damage. Amazingly, it survived the bombings during World War Two. Question number. Two. Two years before Leonardo. Davinci was born Yohannes Gutenberg invented something that would change the world some say it was the most important invention of all time. What was it? It. Was the printing press. Finally, books and pamphlets could be reproduced quickly so that they could be available to everyone before that books had only been available at libraries or universities most were written or copied by hand, which meant that they were very difficult to get your hands on after the printing press was invented more and more people learn to read which allowed them to be exposed to new ideas and ways of thinking, and it was one of the most important aspects of the renaissance. Okay Question Number Three Leonardo Da Vinci wasn't the only great Italian renaissance painter and he wasn't the only one who shared a name with an injury turtle. which other painter slash Ninja turtle namesake was the creator of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Wasn't Raphael and it wasn't Donatello Michelangelo Michelangelo and Leonardo were rivals in real life. So they probably didn't share any pizza. The real. Michelangelo. Spent four years painting the incredible frescoes on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. By the end I, BET, his arms were pretty tight. Maybe, you've seen this before, and if you haven't, that's totally cool. It's very easy to imagine in a gallery of Fine Art Museum. Someone is set up with their Easel, our sketch pad painting drawing stopping regularly to stare deep into the detail of a masterpiece on the wall. Masterpieces are just that masterpieces. They are marvels of detail technique filled with inspiration, and for many they are a unique way to learn to paint. Nothing beats at something in person up close and personal with a critical eye. These art gallery art makers are learning from the masters even if the masters have been dead for centuries. This is precisely what Louis Baru had in mind when he walked into the Louvre on a Tuesday in nineteen eleven. No, he wasn't hoping to take lessons from some Zombie painters. He was going to spend the morning with the painting created and sort of May be finished by Leonardo. Da Vinci four hundred years before in nineteen eleven the Mona Lisa was a pretty normal painting people new Davinci was important but this wasn't believed to be his most important work. For centuries, it had been out of public eye and when it was finally hung on the walls of the Louvre, it was about as exciting to folks as all of the other thousands of paintings that hung on the walls of the twenty six acre building. In the late eighteen hundreds of artists and critics began to realize or simply decided how great it was. But they were the snobby sort to most folks. It was just another portrait of a lady who? May Not be smiling Louis must have been one of these parolees up people because she's exactly who he was there to see. But when he got to the room where the painting usually hung, he found only four nails that once held it onto the wall. She was gone. Now. Yes. Excuse me I came here to see the Davinci in this room but it's gone what Davinci Yes I heard you what painting can't you find the Mona Lisa Dewa. The Mona Lisa. We have no painting called the Mona Lisa yes you do or you did it's The Da Vinci painting. It's a half length portrait of a woman who's Kinda smiling kind of nod and there's some interesting scenes over her shoulder in the distance and what did you call it the Mona Lisa we well, this is France and here we call that painting a Kanda Okay. Well, it appears Lajja. Kanda is missing from your wall. Any idea where it is Doa, Law Asia condo missing where is it? You mean the Mona Lisa's missing. This security guard checked with the photography department they had been working through the collection. So he assumed that the painting was temporarily removed so that photographs could be taken. Was He right He was worse than right. He was way he worse than right he was super duper Ding Dong Mega. Wrong. The Mona Lisa had been stolen. The HOOPLA that followed made the most famous painting in the world, and you could argue that the Mona Lisa never would have been as famous as it is now if Vincenzo Peruse. Hadn't initiated a worldwide search when he stole it on a Monday morning in nineteen eleven. Vincenzo had worked at the loop often on as a contractor for years. In fact, the museum had chosen one hundred paintings including the Mona Lisa. To put behind glass for extra protection and Vincenzo had installed. Many of those glass covers people hated the glass covers because sometimes the light would reflect on the glass and you couldn't actually see the painting that you came to see but instead the mirror image of your own face or someone else near you straining to see the Dang thing in the first place. The criticism didn't hurt Vinnie. He did most of his work on Mondays when the museum was closed. So No, one was around to complain to him. It's not like he could have done anything about it. Anyway. He was just a hired hand a regular guy who moved to France from Italy? Living in a tiny apartment and who is apparently nurturing a quiet. Yet, burning passion for returning Italy's important artworks back to Italy. He knew all too well that the move would be closed on Mondays. So one Sunday night instead of going home afterward, he and two accomplices snuck into a broom closet and spent the night with the cleaning supplies. When the morning came, they did their stretches put on work clothes and a smock with identify them as maintenance workers. Making a beeline for Lisa, they pulled her off of the wall and quickly headed for the door. Stairwell. They removed the centuries old frame and carelessly tossed it aside. DAVINCI painted the Mona Lisa on wood. So it was impossible to roll up which is a good thing for the art world. So vinnie hid the inflexible rectangle under his smock the only surprise person he ran into must have been incredibly lacking in the Observation Department or else didn't care because the painting is two and a half feet tall and nearly two feet wide there is no wave and Shinzo didn't look suspicious especially for someone leaving an art museum that Dude didn't say a word. It's hard to know what mention does plan was later he said he didn't really even have one other than to return the painting Davinci's native country Italy. But many believed that he and the others wanted to either sell it. Or have someone create copies and then pass those off as the original to several unwitting and lawless collectors who were okay with having stolen art in their collections. Apparently those people exist and that's totally lame. It took officials at the museum twenty six hours to figure out that the painting was gone and when they did they searched high and low. It was nowhere in the building. Of course, there were suspects. Other people had stolen things from them in the past and they checked with them. But none of those investigations uncovered the slightest shred of evidence on the winner about of the Mona Lisa. Police even brought the famous painter. Pablo Picasso in for questioning. The accusations made him blue for a period but they explained that they had to look at the crime from all possible angles at what's which he of course understood. Once the international press learned about the highest. The story was everywhere the New York. Times was astounded. Someone could walk out of a museum in the heart of a bustling city with a large renaissance portrait and the more people heard about it. The more the painting was planted in their imagination not many people in North or South. America had seen the Mona Lisa. Most Europeans hadn't even seen it but the case and the amount of money tied to the painting was in every newspaper around the globe. So now everyone knew about the Mona Lisa. All of this attention made it really difficult for Vincenzo to do anything with the pilfered painting. So he stuck it inside a trunk in his tiny apartment. Right next to the stove. Put some socks and underwear on top of it, and there it stayed for a couple of years to the world. It was just gone and the authorities slowly began to lose hope. Until one day, an art dealer in Florence got a letter from someone who claimed to have the Mona Lisa. This person wanted to sell it and to see that it would wind up back in Italy. Yes. Sure. Okay. Buddy. He probably wrote back I'm going to need to see it before I can give you a price. The Art dealer assumed that the letter came from someone who actually just had a copy of the DAVINCI. But Ju just in case he called the curator at the nearby Art Museum. Vincenzo Robak. Sure. Come on up to Paris. I'll show you the painting I, keep it with my underwear. nope. Coming up there to see your underwear, you come on down here and you can bring Lisa. Then, he was hoping for that cash payment. So he brought the painting and the art dealer brought his curators friend. And the police. Vincenzo was arrested and for his crime of stealing what became the most being this painting in the world he served. Seven months in prison. You later served in the Italian army during World War One and died in relative obscurity. The Mona. Lisa on the other hand was displayed in Italy to enormous crowds many of whom had probably never even heard of it until the heist. It returned to Paris on the penultimate day of nineteen thirteen, and since then it has been the most popular painting balloon. which is arguably the finest. Museum in the world. Okay you all be cool because it's time for Dr. Awkward. Now, here's the thing about Dr Awkward. Everything he says is a pal android that means it is spelt the exact same way forward as it is backwards. It's pretty crazy I don't understand why he does that. Anyway. Here goes nothing. It's stuck up words the Landreau broke. It's doctor. Pal Gross. It's Dr Awkward. Dr. Rock. Solid Room. Dr Awkward It's great to have you back. Is it. It is. Well I know that everyone has missed you I get requests to have you on all the time. But you have to understand that I can only have you on every. So often for a number of reasons, seven Eve's now it's been way more than seven Eve since you were last here. Hey, anyway, you probably noticed that security has changed around the studio. You'll need to wear this name tag. You're here shall I write Dr Awkward on it for you? Know it's Abe Sebastian. is that right I never knew your full name eight Sebastian Awkward is that what you would like me to call you name now one man. Yes. I'm naming a one man and that man is you. So what should I write on your name tag? Dr Awkward. Yeah. That was my original suggestion. Here you go. Oh No, it doesn't seem to be very sticky. I could get some tape so it'll stay on your jacket. No, tie it on. we'll get a hole punch and then some string and their we kill. Now we brought you on this episode because I understand that you actually witnessed an art heist and this is very exciting to me. I heard some of the details and it seems like you are in the restroom when the heist began, where was the restroom as I P I c Pisa. Oh Pisa Italy very fancy. Yes. There's a lot of great art in that city. Though it's alarming that someone tried to steal some especially from a bathroom. So while you were. In. His bathroom you noticed someone stealing some art is that how it went down elite tile tiles like mosaic not sounds interesting. What was pictured on the tile eve as in Adam and Eve wo say. Wonder what Adam said to her when they first met like when they saw each other for the first time Madam in. Eden I'm Adam. Maybe. Maybe you're right. Yeah. Anyway. What did you do when you saw this art being stolen put Elliott's toilet up. Like a portable toilet, you're borrowing from someone named Elliot you put it away. Okay. Well, did you get a good look at thief mom it was your mom. I can't imagine what was going through your head Amy Must I ju Jitsu Ma? Whose amy more importantly did you Jujitsu? Your mom mom is just as selfless as I am. Well, it doesn't sound very selfless to steal a mosaic of Eve from a bathroom and pizza. Art Name no time emit but one mantra one mantra did you resolve the situation by saying something marge let send a sadness telegram. So your mom is marge and her sadness was reason that she stole this eve from the bathroom and you've got her to confront her sadness by writing someone telegram. What did it say? Mister Owl met my metal work from. That's at Well I. Don't think this is going to work for me won't it? No. Well I was hoping for more action acrobats stab ORCA nurses run our talking stop murder not tonsured rum pots. Tino dump mud on it. Yeah. That's the stuff. Slap a ham on Omaha House. All right. That's enough. Thanks. I think we can unquestionably call this your most successful visit to the show ever. But that's not saying much. Is it? Awkward. It's Dr. off. Salad. Well for those of you who like Dr Awkward you're welcome for those of you who hoped you'd never hear it again. Sorry I can't do very often though so you know. I have a lot of Patriot people to thank again this month I, appreciate it so much you help me keep going and doing the show. It means a lot. So if anyone else is interested there are links to our patron count on our website the passengers dot com. To simple latest support the show. Without. Further Ado. I need to think. Abraham. Had a nice message from your mom. Vicky Abraham Thank you Abraham. 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No 130 Pop Culture Big Brother 4 P1
"It was at this moment that he knew Damn John where Japan this. Just Make Dreams. Wings. I now to the world's most popular inaccurate and sometimes squirrels retelling of agriculture history it's podcast forty two on the pod fix network. Days Chris, just a quick The update. Some forgot to mention when we were recording is that you can find all the stats to all the care appears. TAT podcasts forty to show DOT wordpress dot com. So nuff. That nonsense. On with the show. And it's time four podcasts forty-two I'm Christopher Devos and Sabrina here Jalen rose I'm Laura he and it's time for our annual pop culture big brother game the game that tests whether we can stay together as friends after it's over, it's worked so far these past two we can't can wayne barely. Pleasure working with you all. The only person I know that's ever storm out of here is you is Laura. But before we get into that, let us open up the beer cooler. Gee. Bee Doo. Is. I. Right. What is this pink beer drinking looking? It's drink from starbucks. I like those Oh. Sorry after you modify it a million times now. That you don't order at the way they make it I asked for no no at the strawberry bits in it because they get stuck in the straw. Drink like they actually have real pink. Drink have shot bits in it. The one that looks like abysmal. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I was thinking they're strawberry. Refresher or whatever like. Without the strawberries but this, they just take up space. You don't need to take up space they don't actually or anything they take up space. Okay. But guess what this is not this is not any of those drink. This is not going to be enjoyable. This is from Hidden Springs Brewery there man child it is a peanut butter and Jelly. Sour Nice five point five Ab. A is it called man child because after you take a sip of it, turn from a man into a child immediately maybe. I took the first SIP and I wanted to lay down on the floor gasping for air but I've taken a second sim like the man child he is and. So it'll be interesting to see how it goes at the end of this three hour episode three dollars to wait. That's what you say about every beer. Nicer. Again. No? We'll stay tuned till the end of this episode when we rate the beer one through six, one being the worst sixteen, the best. This is base honest six pack, which makes sense to everybody but one lone Canadian in Kissimmee. Now, what doesn't make sense? Everybody is the rules of this game. I still don't get it. This is my seventh year. Still, don't understand it. It's always a first couple of rounds are always a little rough. What's what she said? This is based on the show big brother, which made a triumphant return. I'm so happy I was worried that it also was going to get canceled from corona virus, but they figured out how to film it and they actually did it in a really smart way. So they quarantined all the contestants for two weeks ahead of time tested them before they went in tested them when they came out and they were able to. Do the show mostly because they're basically in quarantine while they're doing the show. So they perfect sense to bring it back. So to go over the rules. Briefly here, and then you'll kind of figure out as you listen because it's. They go over the rules every year and I think it's just easier what she hear the show to know what's going on. So we're going to put one player up. To be eliminated from our pool of players and we'll tell her tell your players in a moment. Then we were all excited ice. One through three is a strength competition for through sixes intellect competition. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA. NOPE that's true. Oh, you have a regular one. Oh okay. guess I've a regular device on the table. Behind the giant fish bowl then based on that competition, each player roll, a twenty sided dice to add to their overall attribute scores. From their strengths, scores and their intellect scores, which we appreciate or predetermined for each character the head of household. Then nominate two players were conviction. We'll play a power of veto after that where each nominee can pick a player and then we have three random players that will play once against the more dice are rolled. The winner is the highest from the attribute from those. Once again, using a twenty sided dice, we will eliminate all the players till we get down to one winner. Let's find out on WHO's WHO's on everybody's team Laura. Why don't you go first tell me who your players are and where we know from. I have the eleventh doctor who's that doctor who played by Matt Smith. Oh. That one. Yeah. I also have Nebula from guardians of the galaxy and miss. CLEO. Who is a pretty awesome nineties fortuneteller. We. Have a phone call now. TV Fortune Teller Sever snake from Harry Potter and Barbie Barbie Who Barbie? I don't know what was her last name Doll Barbie Doll. We should know her last name because we right saw what's her last name I believe it's funeral parlour. Your favorite that was the greatest. Barbie. Jail bring this year I brought in a big brother favorite and he has the most appearances on big brother Jesse gutters, NFL running former NFL running back ricky. Williams is gutters just a big boat person. He was a wrestler as well okay Mr Pictorial Mr Oriel. That's right. Oh yes. Oh Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He does the the bit. Okay. Yeah and I. Know who he is. Now he comes back to host like usually like one bit every season I didn't realize that he was a real wrestler. Yeah. Okay. popstar Billy Irish Tesla. CEO Elon Musk and everybody's favourite mutant and Comic Book Character Squirrel Girl Anna Kendrick Yeah still waiting for that movie Sabrina she planned her I have no, she's been trying to for years. I've got Carol. Burnett marlow. Hooch water header was weight and boy was carol. Burnett. If you don't care about. Is I know Cheryl Burnett is Carol Burnett is legendary Comedic Star and Broadway Star movie star. Star in that sentence, you know there could be a JEN's ear who listens to the show. You never know then get out an encyclopedia Britannica. Those. That's called wickedly. Encyclopedia Britannica is. Then, wikipedia Carol Burnett. Carol Burnett so many steps. Yes. MARLA hooch from a leader own. She was the ball the long ball hitter. I'm Anne Hathaway WHO's. Princess Diaries. Oh Cat woman that's the one. Mona Lisa veto from my cousin vinny and Sirius black from Harry Potter just to clarify the MARLA hooch and the Mona Lisa veto or the characters and not actors oh I thought Mona Lisa Vito is Danny devito's daughter. Happened to the D. She's trying to like not show everybody that is his daughter. Nicholas cage deal yeah. Cal will never get away from that kind of would like to be Danny devito's daughter. He's you know how big it would be. You'll be like three foot to that's okay. I mean I'm not that far off now. He was married to Permanent, who was I think shorter than him Was Teller. Much especially with still taller, those were heels. Right into the table John Maclean character from the die hard franchise played by Bruce Willis everybody's favorite grandma betty white. Probably. Most known for the golden girls although she had a really career I am bringing the Tootsie Roll Al from the famous two zero commercial where the guy brings the Tizi pop an ass the owl how many licks does it take to get the center of the two zero pop? The world may never know. That's why gave him a high intellect. Do Co. boom from toy story four he was the motorcycle evil knievel toy will where you wind up the motorcycle and make them jump. And then I am bringing a Joa from Star Wars John was those little guys who like to collect joys and then resell them. Is it just me or does he pick a job la every year because there are so many of 'em he can just recycled. Over it over not true less Europe. Brought Eighty eight I think he was eliminated I. Heard what I laughed Oh that hurt a little. All right now starting round one. So each player from their list, we'll pick a person to compete for head of household I am going to pick the John Maclean to start. Courses I'm going to pick Barbie going billy. Irish. Veto, goodness isn't about car knowledge. All right. If this is a strength competition or intellect competition our first then we'll just pass the dice. Has a chance to be fair. To Roll is to two equals strength. So you now take your characters and their attributes role twenty sided dice and add that. All right. So my character John Maclean, he has a seven strength. I rolled a thirteen for twenty Laura. Barbie strength I wrote in eleven seventeen. Jail. Billy has three strength I rolled in eleven that gives are a fourteen Mona Lisa vetoes got five and I wrote a three so she has eight. WHO's John McLean I, head of household who were targeting. Not, even making it past the first row before I. Say it. It's. Great it's always tough being the first head of household. John Maclean. How Well since jail loudly whispered that and not in secret in a secret room to just sit here and drink my peanut butter sour I am going GonNa put up I'm going to put up Ricky Williams. And I'm going to put up. Serious block for blood on my hands, no one likes getting blood on their hands. So for power of veto, I can pick one other player to play for me, and I'm GonNa pick the tootsie roll owl and we have our famous fishbowl in the middle of the table. Each one of you people pick a name out of the fishbowl randomly to find out who are other players are if you pick someone already playing to set them aside. Pickler. Jesse got her as. I have the eleventh doctor. Okay. Got Betty White Look at me I'm stacked. Playing in this power of veto we had. John Maclean. Carry my own ricky, Williams Sirius Black Tutsi roll, Owl Jesse Mr Peck eleven doctor, and Betty White go ahead roll the dice Laura for the power of veto should be in front of you somewhere. But don't worry stretch Armstrong firms I got it. That makes one of us. Five five is intellect for intellect competition roll the. Dice for each character up their scores. Now Rolling, for Jesse or the eleventh doctor you did you do for your career character so ricky. Jesse injustice. All right do we ever scores Laura's store writing? Oh look like you. Right he's doing math. Oh, you're still doing. She forgot to carry a one. Right John Maclean. A grand total of ten. Ricky Williams has a grand total of Sixteen Sirius Black. Twenty. Five to zero hour has sixteen. Jesse eighteen eleven doctor twenty, four, betty white has fourteen. So serious black is the winner. So serious black keeping himself on the block or is he taking himself taking himself off? Just means I have to nominate somebody else and I will nominate Nominate Miss Cleo. She knew that was coming. Wow. Are Says the running gag? Retired. What's going to be more? She knew that was coming or what? hitter. You Know Jon Lovitz reaction when he first MARLA hooch is one of the best. Oh, let's go girls. Because he wasn't acting. All right. All right. So Miss Cleo's Laura's character that cancels her vote because jails characters also in there which leaves the vote down to Sabrina? Regular. Ricky lawyers. Try this year. Ricky. Williams. Is Out of the House. Going to be having an. Because I'm not even GonNa make it through the whole episode. That may not be true. You say that every year and then end up winning every year. Yeah. But you always forgot that every year now you remember. They've collusion collusion's around here. It's here. All you've talked about for weeks is how jail is going to be eliminated I. Don't worry I'm sure I'll. So the hours. Ricky's name out of the. Just, figured if we've come across old pull up. All right. So round number two everybody is eligible for head of house- sold except for Ricky. Williams. It was going to be mclane can't. Dose, right John Maclean cannot be eligible because they already had it. BE A two weeks in a row. Yes. You'll be next week if he doesn't get booted out. All right. I'm putting up. Lot Laura I'M GONNA. Go birdie again. I have full confidence you live musk. Barbie Barbie which Barbie Funeral Bourbon. And Sabrina MARLA. Huge what Henner? Jail role for what competition we're having six. Intellect. PORTLAND, I get lucky I'm not. All right my job I had intellect of six and a roll to thirteen nineteen Barbie. Barbie had an intellect six and I rolled eight to. An eighth seems fitting. Time. Elon Musk had an eight I rolled a seven. So that gives me fifteen. Marla who has got an intellect of six and I wrote the sixteen for Twenty. Two. MARLA hooch is head of household. I don't know what I do. Now you pick two people to go up on the block Let's go John Maclean An. Squirrel. Girl collusion. Collusion. All right Miss Hardy know who the strongest person is in this entire thing who should go first but she's GonNa be around for forever. So it's okay. Maybe I mean, you're you're allowed to make alliance. Nobody's GonNa line with me. That's not necessarily true. It's true. He didn't even ask might align with you know. MARLA hooch. You May. You may pick somebody to play power veto serious book all right, and three random people from the bowl. I gotTa pick again I have tiny arms. So somebody has to help I gotTa pick again. There tends can. Pick. Again Okay just gets easier. Did you do the safety guidance or? Sirius black of MARLA who. Got John McLean I was like, well, that's not gonNa Work I. Heard you picked. Lor. I Have Duke Boom. Jail I'm really good at picking the eleventh doctor. And I picked Elon Musk supplying for power of veto. We have Marla Hooch Sirius black do ca boom eleven doctor and Elon Musk Sabrina role for our competition is going to be. I haven't window. So what am I doing you're rolling? It is six. So intellect intellect. Each one of your characters, attributes and add up. Random twenty-seven intellect court. All right man I'm having a terrible day to doing that again. To people in. These work. Amazing. Yeah. I might have to all right MARLA hooch. She has a six and I, wrote a twenty four, twenty, six serious plaque is got an interactive now. And I Rode Sixteen for Twenty five and I do Kabunda grand total of twenty five. Seven eighteen doctor He has an intellect F- Ten and I rolled a one eleven. Houses Dr Kate Ketchup Risk I can't. On Musk, he's got an insect of eight. I wrote a sixteen. So he gets twenty four squirrel girl. I also rolled a sixteen for that one, but she has intellect to sick so she gets twenty two. And I forgot about John Maclean so just for all. The way to go. To seven rolled a two for nine Marla hooch is the winner. Are you keeping your nominations the same where you changing them keeping the same? All right. So it's down the Laura. I think Laura should. Is. We're looking at stats. Yes. Definitely. Already a household one girl squirrel girl. Around the block John Maclean Squirrel girl and John. Maclean won head of household. The first go around. That's not necessarily the long game. It's not necessarily the short game I understand that, but I mean, you're already proven to be a threat. But we're talking about big brother game. And it's only week too. So I can only go based on the first week of playing. Okay. Girl did nothing we hung out and she's calling. So Don McLean by you. So far jail has down one character and I'm one just like every year. Yeah. It contains very quickly around here. It can change very quickly round number three. Put up your people for head of household. Everyone's eligible except for Marla. I'm going to put up several snake. 'CAUSE pervy has been successful neither has the eleventh doctor so I would definitely leave that by. Because when you put on the black again, you know that too picky. I'm putting up to Kabuki I'm going with. Jesse. Garters. Anne. Hathaway. Might turn to roll. I roll the to for strength. Great reaction there. Was a winner. All right I do ca boom. He has a strength of. Eight and a roll in eighteen for twenty six. Laura Had several snake who has a strength of five fifteen for twenty. Jesse. Goddard's he has a six strength and I rolled it eleven for seventeen and I have Eknath away with the strength of five and a roll of one with six. Inch and castaways. Golf. That's the case. Won The last couple of rounds them. All right. I'm head of HOUSEHOLD DO Co. Boom. Target on my back. I'm feeling targets on my back already. So song targets on the. Was Actually Lords third single from her follow up album. I am going. His. Head. Good choice and several snipe. You'll pay for this potter. that. Was Forty Laura role for what competition always ways the dice put it right in front of you I did not. It's on your paper paper. So was in front of you. Three is intellect. Oh, just kidding strength. You sure. He said strength three straight went through three strength. Okay. Four, five six intellect well, I did this backwards. I. Okay What do you WANNA re role after we pick our people no. I remember next time. No, he won't. Putting, up a jar Wa for my extra person. and money every time random from the bowl food we hope. Schneider the mucking if is eliminated player big. Take him out. Okay I had picked John McCain the first round. That's why I did check he's just got out. All right WHO's your Pick Sabrina? Eleven doctor. Wow. Didn't pick it. Jail. I Pick Billy Irish law. All right we said strength, right? Yes. Strength Strength. It's ready play here. All right MARLA hooch. she has a string of eight and I wrote thirteen for twenty one and snipe. He had a strength of five I rolled a fourteen. Ping. Boom as strength of eight and six for fourteen Joe. As his drink, the four and our old a twenty for twenty four. The eleventh doctor, he had a strength of five and Total is twenty three but I didn't I don't remember what I rolled the bad guy. It's a sixteen overall strength to three role to thirteen and Hannah? Hathaway. Strength of five or older seventeen for twenty, two, the job. Jiwa unexpectedly wins by one point just wanting to know. Time. Yes. Because like a one or two time for the doctor. What happens? Yeah, it does happen. Four showing so far on surprisingly yeah that's what happened all my. This is an easy one by by which you don't give to vote. Now I don't get the votes. Groups. You get to vote do so just ready to tell by by the WHO. She proved to be strong she what had a household delirious what I enter? And just like in major league she leaves a third of the way through the movie. All right. Around number four we're actually evenly matched what Marla hooch ever sleep your yeah they were they were but who has shown dominant so far so Daytime prior logic used who has had a household we gotta go dead. So based upon this logic. Boom is leaving this rat. I know who I'm targeting because they're winning law, but there are a lot makes me nervous yeah. That's what jail already said. So don't worry. No you one of characters. Who Do you think it is author no I said her I was talking about. MARLA hooch. Head before this round that when you head of household, you're going to target the eleventh. No, I didn't I said I was GONNA target her I said her. By her he put her on the chopping block and it was going to be Marla hooch because I felt that she was more powerful than a lot of the others I don't know. All right. Remember we're all friends when this is over, we'll see. Lord is People beforehand. We used to pay you for that. Now nobody gets paid I. Know All right who you nominated for your head of House. I'm going with the eleventh doctor gone through everybody else. So I might as well put squirrel girl out there. Mona Lisa Vito. It's like nobody else has worked for me. Let's keep going and going betty white darkhorse winner right there. And see what the six day. Put thoughts in people's heads. I mean, I wouldn't be banned but three. Three is strengths I'm sitting pretty yes. Because Betty white is so. Seen the amount that she used to bench on hot in Cleveland I'm Sarah. Wow I just had a sabrina roll here. Man All right Dr. Strength of five and I rolled a fix for an eleven for the eleventh doctor. Anyway has a strength of three. And she rolled a twelve for fifteen squirrel girl. It's going to take this one drank the seven and I rolled a two for. And veto got US strength the five and I rolled an eight for thirteen. Way. Possible. Who has the Die Sabrina I think we need to bring our people in I. Oh. Yes. That's true. Thank you for Miami while I'm here for that's it. So I have to nominate. Well I'm going to love with doctor of course the poor guy you can't catch a break. You. CanNot can't he's had every bedroll. Yeah. I'm going Squirrel girl. What do you have against an? Anna Kendrick. She hosted the Oscars with James. Franco. That's what I have seen. Way That's what I said and hathaway. You said, I have against an have. To Annex. was still going with Anne hathaway. Poor Anna Kendrick. She's totally forgot now she's just doing Hilton commercials. All right I'm bringing do caboose on my team and we need three random players. I picked on who would you pick? Jesse got her is oh. It's like, i. knew she was going to be on my team Anne hathaway. Repick. Squirrel girl that's supposed to take to Sabrina one was MARLA hooch and Elon Musk Hey, like jails pretty stacked for this one. Yeah. Right. Have you seen the way I've been rolling. Where's the six sided dice Sabrina? Has It? Okay it is. To for strength, Okay Betty White's. Forte. Who My rolling for just the eleventh doctor eleven doctor and yes, that's it. Okay. Bye. Bye Eleventh, Doctor You said you had Jesse gutters, right So I'm rolling in order that they were picked. All right we ever scores the eleventh doctor as a strength of five I ruled eight and for fifteen squirrel girl strength the seven I roll in nineteen she has twenty-six Betty white is a strength of three rolled eleven or excuse me for eleven. Do caboose has a strength of a role the ten for eighteen Jesse he got an eighteen overall and hathaway string five role of twenty, four, twenty, five and eat on musk. He got a fourteen overall and it squirrel girl girl she's going to she's she's. Going she's going off the blockages. Okay for us. I mean, I have to put somebody else on the block and. Sur serre ringer there. But I'm GonNa wait I'm going Sirius black which leaves the decision up to jail lack between the eleventh doctor. Why would you do that? I gotta go with Sirius Black just based upon the numbers the eight nine scare me that's why I put him up there but there's some numbers that scare me more and they're not high numbers I. See I see a winner sneaking through and I need to stop that. Now is the time you choose to do that. It usually takes about five rounds to start thinking. That's not true. Usually takes me about fifteen rounds. All right. Who you putting up I'm. going. Mr Pictorial Jessica. I'm going to go with the Eleventh Dr. Carol Burnett. Carol Burnett. duku boom. It is an intellect. Killing it Laura killed? What does it it? Just. Yeah I'M GONNA go make cookies. All right. So Do Kabu has a intellect seven and enrolled sixteen for Twenty three? The eleventh doctor hasn't elective ten and I roll the five fifteen. Carol Burnett. Intellect of nine, I wrote a fourteen for twenty three. Twenty sided. Been Given live site. Well Jesse goners has an insight to five and guess what I rolled a ten. So I also have a fifteen. Well Kabua and Burnett have to have a re-rule highest role wins unless it's the lowest for me deny win highest I win lowest you lose. Making up rules. You gotta wine I gotTa Five. Scare Burnett is head of how. Carol Rene you get to pick. Actor that reaction I thought for sure. He had more than you because I thought was another one of those twenty s and he was laughing about it. Carbonate who you put on the block squirrel girl in Duke Boom scrolling eleven doctor you said now do you. One of anything. I managed to get off the block wants and I'm just like, okay like no one had a household nothing. Is a two person show. But yet somehow were again targeted. Crap and so again targets record. I've never targeted Laura. Laura also has all her people still on. because. I'm not a threat guy. I wasn't really winning and they still got rid of my second person. You won both H. H p. Pov the same way. Yeah. With MARLA hooch. And she went. And then they got this black he didn't shit. That now. The lovie first week, but he's got numbers. All right that was really it was the number is that's why I was just like Oh who's playing for you. take your pick are the same isn't who do I have in there? Who Mona Lisa Vito Anne Hathaway occas? That's Okay Yeah. Let's go Anne hathaway I'm like they're the same. So take your pick. On the block girl Duke Boom and Carol Burnett and Anne Hathaway were just picked right past the mall. And it's. Who? Called me now. Miss Cleo. Pick 'cause now, going to be now Cleo and I have a billy. Bush I have Jesse is. Jack Jack for J. L.. Okay we're all for what competition we're playing to you. Laura I did hand you the dice personally. The. Three three, four strength. Leo. Demong boomer. Were doing strength says you straight man I'm all alone in this one nobody else on my team just me. Was the other one, right? Yes. Keep drinking the spear 'cause you like it. It's I. think it'd be better for wasn't a sour with some ice cream for it or lactate for you. Make a really good float. Work 'cause I'm furloughed I can do more dairy. Working on the show right now, we don't need that. We don't pause live shows. All Right Carol Burnett. What's your scores I care at a strength of three with a sixteen role for Nineteen Squirrel Girl Oh. She had a overall a thirteen after that mighty role of mine. Ca Boom has a strength of eight and he wrote a six for fourteen Anne hathaway She has a strength of five. I rolled nine for fourteen Cleo Miss. CLEO has a strength of four and she ruled a nineteen for twenty three to. Twenty four overall. And Irish. So fourteen overall he's playing. Patrick Winds Squirrel girl is. We need to pick somebody new. She's staying on the block she's getting saved in. Farrah's ING IT I'm not GonNa Farrah's this. Can we talk you into Farrah's? Everybody's going to be like scroll. Golf keeps getting off the blog. Think. Because they're all targeting her for some reason. All right carbonate put somebody from your team on the block. Let's go. To. Work. Elon Musk. Vote. Jail can't vote and Sabrina camp vote was on the block. Elon Musk Gang. member. He. Put indestructible windows on a car that. destructible. Remember do Kabuga has been had a household. Very powerful, it's not about the short game it's about the long game. How he gets all the ladies. It's not the lies. them sleeping on the couch tonight Pam I and yes, he is. Doing to Kabuga Darkhorse pick. All right next round. Wow, I'm in trouble. I am putting the two zero al up. Used to. Yet so used them once did you A household that's why I don't remember. I'm picking Elon Musk since everybody just tried to get rid of them. Really, I didn't vote them out I know. The people in this room tried to vote him out. I'm going with Mona Lisa, Vito I'm going to put up Nebula. Competition three strength strengths. Great. I'm so glad I got the up there. That's how I feel about musk right now. Who Wait a minute. Maybe. I've been reading these wrong the whole time. There's a at the bottom. Oh have you the Knicks mixing up your sixers and your Nines Oh? It's actually the first time. I've rolled niner six. Okay. Yeah. The DOTS at the bottom bottom of the number. That's how you tell. All right. For Owl he has a strength of four I rolled three. For. Seven. Alone Musk. he has a strength of four I rolled a nine. So thirteen. Veto. A strength of five or seventeen or excuse me. Yeah Real. The seventeen for twenty two she's making up numbers. Nebula has a strength of ten and I rolled eight, twenty, four thirty. Running, the house. That's your best roll this entire. Go. Around Eleven doctor your role to to. Pick two people from your own team. I am going to put up billy eyelash and. Let's. Let's keep their numbers even we'll put her up against Betty White. I don't know how you could do that Betty White. Survived everything out. So. Wrong. Like you're not gonNA get any fans. Very white probably winning this. anyways, totally taken the. US I've been picking betty white from the moment I saw. Which means you now? All GonNa Target Betty White no no no, she's. She's the heartfelt pick from all of us so. All right. So we like to Pick A. To play for you for power veto I'm lanes. Who? Pick. Sever thing. And three random people from the bowl Ebola Irish Irish, betty white and sniper out if I say Irish eyelash because the color IRA. Bull Bull. Picked it. Because even though somebody's running the house even though nobody's realizing it. I realized that. WHO TO PICK SABRINA Jesse gutters I got Mona. Lisa Vito. Ralph Competition. Did you get. Barbie Barbie. oops, I. I don't know my own strength. Sorry. Paper goes flying strength strength. It's like paper. Betty. White up there for strength. I'm doing good this round. Eric. Got Their numbers Nebula Nebula has a strength of ten roads for a twenty. Irish. Ashes a strength of three. She rolled in eighteen for twenty twenty-one. Betty white has a strength of three. She wrote a one. Four, four two. Funnier than what it should be she she conked out in the middle of surpassed out in the middle of competition and had to have the ambulance guys give her oxygen. Just. So you guys know she's L. Asleep telling us about one time say. Sleep. I'll snap has a string of five he also ten for Fifteen Barbie. Barbie. has a string of six key role than eighth four fourteen got her. It's Oh. God is the six to eight. and Veto she's a strength of five. I wrote the seventeen for twenty two. Uh veto has the power to. I'm going to keep it going to keep the nominations the same. Yes. So jail can't vote and I can't vote and Laura can't vote which means Sabrina controlling the house. Billy I wish I would have voted for Billy Irish. Couldn't wrote up anyway. That's why billy whites going to billy white bedding GONNA win and I'll fine with that. I he put her there almost picked her brother. Billy. White. December him. Clint Howard. The so famous Howard. Sibling. Yes. which used to be priced out Dallas Howard but then she started ranking up there. Yeah. Did you know she directed some of the mandatory and I know that I did not know that betty white no price. and. Jim Betty white directing something and Dorien heavy out I was watching a documentary on the Mantle Orient Making of and it sounds like that's her first directing gig. I believe it is and that's a that's amazing. I would like that to be my first directing gig. Are you trying to get into directing I would be a wonderful director. I think so. Really I do. Sit here, drink this. I. Direct her to Redo. Her lines. But that's that's what a director does. Just because you can't do anger on the Mike we all know. off the mind really well, she does passive aggressive really well on the Mike. Though. 'cause I do pat aggressive and really. Really well in real life that's not acting. We put up for head of house-, squall girl. Miss Cleo. Carol Burnett and I'm putting up to Tizi role owl competition is going to be. A intellect. Come on. I hope the rest of your are looking at the board like I am I have been for the last three rounds and I can't do anything about it. I haven't one had a household want so oh well. Cabinet. Interactive Nine role the twenty nine give it to her. Just give it to her about it is Miss Cleo. Miss Cleo has an intelligence of eight enroll they four for twelve. Squirrel girl. Intellect six, rolled a six for twelve, two, zero. Our has intellect of nine and I rolled a twenty, five four. Of Seventeen total. So Carol Burnett is head of household I'm going to put up several snipe and Java. You know can be two people from the same team, right? Yeah. Okay. Just checking. On the block. Joe, on the Block Carol Burnett is head of House. You have played for you there. Miss. Tug My ear. Let's go with Anne hathaway. Three or random people. Great. I am the worst picker. Yeah, you are. Wait I need to pick. A victim addicted or listening. Hey all right I picked Mona Lisa Vito. I pick squirrel girl. I picked Betty White. She's still trying to recover from the last couple. Role for competition. To cheat. Four four. Intellect. Not. Winning this one. Don't worry neither AM I. Already. Knew that. It's okay. 'cause I don't know how to roll dice saved my life. It's why I don't play what is it crap you have to roll the dice gear. I don't play that game. Play craps because I don't understand the. Role for your whole team is out there. I don't know I only have three people. All Right Carol Burnett. Intellect of Nine Road Sixteen for Twenty Five, I'm just GonNa give it to her. Just. Sleep is an intellectual nine role fourteen for twenty three. Jolla is an intellect of six wrote a six or twelve Anne hathaway. Intellectual role to one for nine. Mona. Lisa Veto. Eight to twelve for twenty. Squirrel girl into sex and she wrote a one for seven. That's why I don't play crafts. Betty white has intellect of six enrolled a twenty. One E six betty white. Got It. And as she was just save it up for this round. Yeah. And Betty waits taking the Joel off the block. Choice. Bad Choice. Maybe. I. Don't know and Pudding Miss Cleo on the block you know Betty White. You don't get to pick you don't get. The word. Veto. Household Repay. That's right now. Case when scrawled on those two times I should Cited for Miss White that she wants something. Right. Wasn't she? She was Four kind of belief. So. Off The block after block then let's go. Nebula. Solorio doesn't get to pick and Sabrina doesn't get to pick. These down to jail in me I am going to pick. I know who you should pack but I want to see if you do it, I'm going to pick Nebula that's who I would pick Nebula. Seriously, she's the only person who ever did anything for. Well I guess I want to be the first one out this year guy you still have long. All except for. The person to the whole team. Here. On my team I've been white and a stick. Your all ti-. Worried about losing my number one player is gone. Home Body heard before you Guys. Round two seven and she finally you know why? Out I'm to say, is Miss Cleo should've warned you she should have seen that comment. I already know how this is all playing out. Talking. To. You. Know, you have a ring i. don't even the fact that you're still sitting in your chair says you've won the whole thing. that. Last year when I personally don eliminated, it took US ten minutes to pause so she could come back. And you say I'm the competitive one. I'm super competitive. All right. Who are you putting up for your head of household nomination? Mona Lisa you. Jesse got. Barbie. And I'm putting up the Tizi roll out. All right role for competition. To drink. Drink. More VIC. I like to thank you Sabrina for picking somebody with the longest name ever to play. All right I'll has great. Strength Four enrolled in eight for twelve Mona Lisa Vito strength of five role thirteen for eighteen. Jesse got her. It's as the strength of six. He wrote a fifteen for twenty one. And Barbie, as a strength of six world ten for. Sixteen. Jesse got God's as head of house-. Hey. Not who I thought would actually get it on T.. Two nominations please for. Put on the block get blood on your hands. I. Put up several snake. and. beat up. Would you do count the number of letters in her name? Figured that means she's more powerful based upon how many letters are in their names. By. It's pretty close between her and several snipe. See See some strategy there. All right role for no pick puts people. got. Her it's gets to pick somebody to play for them. Elon Musk. And three random people from the bowl. We I think he might be gone hold on. Faith black gone yet. Filling. In for him first time he's ever picked. Oh. He was he never actually I know he's. Up for. Elimination. That was the only time he was. Never even got to use them. kind of like Ricky. Williams. I'M Carol Burnett. Carol Burnett. And I picked Tizi Role Owl and I picked Miss Cleo. Whose on the block again. Sleep and Mona. Lisa Smile. At Lisa long name. Four intellect. To have a chance. Have a lot to do since you guys are most of my team. I get my roles in real quick. Thank you for that. You've only lost two people. Yeah. I, feel like I've lost more. Lost my best player do CA. Boom. He's Betty White. He was supposed to under the learned nobody's GonNa vote off Betty White. She could have a gas attack. You guys may vote voter up. Right Rolling Competition will be we already did that. Did We? Had enough to scores. We already did that. Yes and you're. Doing a lot of paperwork over here. You have one sheet of paper. You just said, you have nothing to do with your whole team was eliminated I know and now you're like, Oh, I'm busy. He's writing a book. I'm watching the computer crash. I'm writing down numbers adding numbers. There's a lot going on. This is why at and T. wouldn't hire me? But T mobile would. Jesse got hurts. Jesse yachters Oh man. He got nine overall. Sleep. Well snake pass the intellect we were doing intellectually. Then here all day, twenty, four, hundred, thirty. Mona Lisa veto as a out nine. That's not right. Twenty nine. I looked at the wrong person. I got used to the Eleven Dr. Mona Lisa veto is got intellect of eight roller seventeen for twenty five. Yuan Musk. seventeen overall. has a intellect of nine enrolled at twelve for twenty one Kerber Knit Interactive, nine sixteen for twenty, five and Miss Cleo. Has An intellect of. Eight role, the seven for fifteen. Steep you in power of veto and Snipe is taking himself off the block. Keep yourself on the block. Fell off the ball you're taking yourself off. That is fine. The eleventh doctor and knew it. Miss Cleo tells me. Jail cannot vote Sabrina can't vote and I or I can vote. I am going to take out. Short or long game short or long game I'm going to. fhu. I'M GONNA give my vote to somebody else. No I will vote. I'm GonNa vote the eleventh doctor. Hey, that's what I wrote down because mostly Oh. No surprise there well, there goes my best players. Walk into the rest of us. Really? Yes. Oliver, you still have strong people, jaw Toutefois. That's it. Until you Betty White Mcclain's. Can. Out if you keep announcing that. People were just smart and realized. Episode thing. But now that everybody knows Betty White's GonNa win. Loss everybody. Betty white just to prove you guys. Do that around. Betty White House. HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD squirrel girl. Al I'm CLEO. Oh. Did she tell you to do that? To call her. For Ninety nine a minute to tell. So she can yeah, you could afford a better background than those videos. shocker. I go with. Carol Burnett? All Roll type of competition. Did he say Taco competition to and once goes strength straits perfect. My alll superstrong. Almost, not a strongest Carol Brunette. All right. So my al.. needs to install some updates and then. Strength of four I rolled a two for six, which pretty much means we don't need anyone else to roll so. Ain't got the one in the bag squirrel girl. Strength, Savon rolled in nineteen for six. Miss Cleo. That's She's been talking to me this whole game and she has a strength of four, hundred, fifteen nineteen. And Carol Burnett. Strange three rolled a one for four. Yeah I be Carol Burnett. And Squirrel Bo you're running the house this week. I'm going with a repeat of several snipe and Mona Lisa Smile. The way she talked in that movie thinks she'd be out of this game earlier. I thought her intelligence will be higher than what it is. God's strength would be hired on what it is. He wasn't that strong no he just had the look. Okay. Will Put Up to play for power veto jail. Go Musk again. Three random people from the bowl? In the picking. I picked two zero al.. Nice. I got betty white I picked Jesse got her as I guess. I'm just going right downstairs has gone. It wasn't. A Squirrel was head of house yeah. I wrote a five five for intellect. I have a chance. Don't have a chance. Wow have zero chance. All right score girl. Overall a ten. Sleep. Nape has a seventeen. Mona. Lisa Veto. Eight plus twelve is twenty. Our climate she's gone so to say her name anymore. Take herself off the block. So Elon Musk. Twelve overall. Al.. Intellect of eight to nine for seventeen. Betty White. Intellect a six rolled of four for ten and Jessica towards overall of eighteen. Mona Lisa veto power of veto. Go ahead and take myself off the block and we can put Anne hathaway on their. Gel can't vote can't vote sprinting camp boat which leaves to vote down to me again. Always hate. Off. Yup. Numbers showing snakes gotta go. Tell. You. Jails not happy with my decision. I told the guys I'm going to be the first maclear talked about it. Either I one Alawites GonNa win just so you guys should maybe attack. Betty White. That's not really nice tech such old Nice Lady exactly exactly what I said to attacker. But not nobody wants to listen to me I feel like we're a lot better if Laura could roll some like ten sided dice here. Have somebody just think give me a five day so it'd be perfect. They make five sided dice apparently in your world because that's what you gave me. Hey It's Chris. Again, we're GONNA abruptly ended right here because I'm not a big fan of three and a half hour podcasts. Less I'm driving across country in the rest of the family is a fan of. Three and a half hour podcast so The, and it right here. There's a part to that will be released and we'll see for the conclusion. Conversations are events the one hundred percent accurate. As, if you figure out already. Things are taper added or deleted for the sake of attempted comedy. Hall courses or never verified all information. It's. Teams lightly get. In, other words. We are having the thon. Thank you for listening. This has been a transmission of the podcast network. For more about this show and other great pod fixed programs go to pot fix network dot com?
No 131: Pop Culture Big Brother 4 P2
"This has been a transmission of the pot fixed network. For more about this show and other great fixed programs go to network DOT COM. It was at this moment that he knew damn son where'd you pine this? Some just. Make your dreams. Now listening to the world's most popular inaccurate and sometimes squirrel Jay telling culture history. It's podcast forty two on the fixed network. Hey it's. Chris here you've stumbled upon this episode. Any didn't listen to part one while is to be sued for confusing for you. So you don't have to back up and search for the pop culture big brother season four part one episode. And then things will make a lot more sense otherwise you're just going to think we're like. Wacky in on drugs drunk. And it's not going to be pretty when you listen to this and you give us a bad rating and it's is is is not gonNa work for you or me so. Go, back, listen to that catch up, and if you're already caught up the, you can fast forward through this. But by this point Y- you're already at the start so. Here we go. All right up. Miklau. You Mosque. I'm going to roll. Owl. Third time in a row. Veto before she gets voted out. Strength. Perfect. New. All right. Since you're owl has a strength of four. I wrote a seven for eleven Miss Cleo as a strength of four older sixteen for twenty. He'll on musk strength of four and I rolled an eight for twelve. And Mona. Lisa Vito. Strength Five rolled thirteen fourteen. Cleo you have head of household this week. But you already knew that I did. Who would you like to put on the block? I would like to align my skin squirrel girl. Really. Yes because she's mad at me. Because I try getting Sabrina knocked out both times but somehow. She can't roll more than a five. Thank, you didn't know this whole him. Yours. Here's where the French start Already out of the competition, that's your last. Last year maybe didn't put everybody in with ten out of ten voted out. So quick was. One person. Scores are super high last year they were. warned you before we went in, I said those look like highest scores. Island like one person with high scores. Nobody seem to count. All right miss. Cleo who would you like to play for you? I only have Barbie Salads it's me and Barbie. How'd you get so low because you guys asked me he. folded. Snake out and more release of the. Air. Last Time Dr Back to back because. Point was to get rid of Nebula in the eleven doctor because they are the strongest I was eight I was hoping snake would win last time. So that way I could put Mona, Lisa Anne, Anne Hathaway, both on the block at the end so we could get rid of at least one of them snipe has nine intelligence. WHO's getting punished for this me your. You've won the last three years running. I don't keep track of stats. Y-. You just gave us a rundown of. Your bedroom. Doesn't. Judging. have. The giant posters of you and your bedroom holding your big brother trophies. I'd never once received A. Only, say that yet. Just, like your paycheck mysteriously disappears. Somehow anybody else get a paycheck. Now. Dot. The. Only why they're all right let's Dick. For WHO's playing? Came into this knowing I was going to be the first one eliminated. Really, but you're not, it's going to be me. And it's GonNa be I'm sorry my player last high backfired. Everybody? Pick. Oh. Wait. Because he's GonNa. He does yeah he's still gets picked. Oh, look. People Mona Lisa Vito. Jesse. Got Roots. I grabbed Anne hathaway. I think every year I make a huge mistake. What is the competition going to be? I don't have it now have. You have it they do have I put paper on top of it just like Laura's. It is a intellect. I actually have nobody playing. against. To, run stats, this time. On my people are sitting on the couch just watching the competition go. For, Betty, White's in a wheelchair. It's Over. Loan. Chris Would Wade Hands Down because we listened to him when he actually does work all those months ago. He go straight from the podcast to work never eat never sleep come back at at the podcast go back to work come back right the next show go back to work and come in and take care of the dog that he never wanted to take care of. Derek to work and then come back to record and each day he'd get an hour less of sleep. Yes. I to tell you about the time to take care of three dogs. I don't remember the third dog I. Remember the one hiding behind the toilet that scares me. And one popping out of the all. Dog Trick Avi. Could you grab the cookies the pantry nobody later on. But dog the same dog that's behind the toilet served. Fast. Was Pushes. The dogs in the Pantry boot from the bathroom jail? Could you grab cookies like? They did I mentioned babysit three dogs for a whole week and go to work and a podcast and write a podcast. All right miss cleo Miss Cleo Bro had a intelligence of Eight Roldan eight for sixteen. Elon Musk intelligence of eight rolled a fourteen for twenty two squirrel girl intelligence a six, ten for sixteen. So, excited with those numbers Barbie. Has An intelligence six rolled a four for ten. Oh. Here's an intellect. A five enrolled a two for seven. Laurel on their. Veto. Intellect. Of Eight to twenty, four, twenty, eight. And hathaway intellectual eight, the twenty four twenty. Seated of. Keep the one number. Let's get rid of snake. He's got high numbers I. This is why I didn't put both of them up at the same time. Are you taking anybody off the block. nope. So Laura can't and J.. L. Vote Between Sabrina me he hit up broad batteries. I rolled in eighteen for Elon Moss, like just like I did like I did like a fourteen for him for twenty two I thought that was pretty good. It was really. I don't know what happened. Miss Sabrina Jack over here. I think just roll wants and said, she gave a twenty to. One. I don't believe it all. It's on a two right now. The Tony's there. I see the two scores of the. Dice were. Forty. All right I am going to vote for Carl. Same. bitches. F Ross. I haven't been this upset about somebody leaving since you got rid of see punk last year. I thought you were walking out here. All right. Put up your players for head of house- Elon Musk. I'm going to to our again. Dave was GONNA win everything. He's the Courtney love of this year. At least in Pick Hitler to play like somebody did one year. He. He may not be named or I have to cancel this episode. Laura I only have one player that can play Oh you do what? You can only have. A household, so she has to go. I. Forgot about that role I know. I didn't make them the show made him. Hathaway. Yeah. All right role for competition. One It is. Maybe I should have picked Jesse Gars. Whatever? Do it again. I liked the other one. That's can be down here with me. Probably got the save number I did. All right. So Chiro has four for strength or rolled a seventeen for twenty one elon musk. Oh, he's got a strength for and I wrote a five for nine. Miss Cleo. Now Barbie or Barbie. Hero three says she has a nine. And hathaway. She has a five I a two for seven. Two Zero? Owl, makes it to and now he can't pick them again for at least around. So. What does jail have left? He was. So stack have one one I don't understand what happened. I am picky. Totally Lisa veto because long named. One hundred. Times. And I'm picking Anne hathaway. Power veto I'm going to pick a jar while to help me out. And three random people. CONCON kind gun. If they WANNA put women Jay from my man. GotTa pick again. Taking Note. Hey all right. All right WHO's plan. I got. Miss. CLEO. SEAMY that? Funny every time you. TURN OR TRADE SENDING MY MESSAGES Getting you don't know Carol Burnett. Oh, you didn't know. The one time you pick Carol Burnett Elon. Musk. All right, let's see. It's a two. We're strength. Here's my chance for my job while to shine. And he's not gonNA shine. Well Your role, the tire, the might total score. Is your whole team. Did you roll four twenties now. I, can't do that again they're onto me. Yeah, she didn't really roll the second time she she shakes her hand. She, still had the highest one doesn't matter Miss Cleo already told you that. Know the math did. Touch your all has a strength of four rolled a seven four eleven Mona Lisa Vito. Strength of five role to for seven. And hathaway strength five rolled a seven hundred twelve. Jiwa has a strength of four road eleven fifteen Miss Cleo has a strength of four roll the six for ten. Carol Burnett strength the three role, the ten for thirteen. And Elon Musk strength four, zero to sixteen for Twenty Elon Musk. You have power of veto would you like to change any denominations? Now cold. I considered it. Did you really yeah. By. No which one to get rid of for Carol Burnett. So I just figured we'd keep it the same. Because I'm looking at her numbers and I'm just going up, we go on run on one thing it's trouble but they're just as bad. So. Well, I can't vote and Sabrina, can't vote. Mona Lisa Mona Lisa. They're the same. So Hey, which one. The one of the longer name goes. Thanks, you. Mona Lisa frowned or way out. She wasn't that pretty. Don't you talk about aunt May that way? Not Aunt made the real Mona Lisa. I'm still I'm Marisa Tomei Mona Lisa over here. I guess the Mona Lisa's really small to paint it is. It's like. Big. Make as big as your. Picture of the art it's a little bigger than that. Okay. It's not that big. That up, there is an eight by eleven I can put it in my printer. It's no, it's a little bigger than that. It is a little bigger than that. It's. And it's great when you go in there because it's got the whole wall to itself and the. Guardrail things and all that they put up like the stanchions. And everybody's just stands there and they hold up their phones trying to get the best photo of this tiny Mona Lisa. And just go. Wow, that is a lot smaller than I. Thought. It would be when I was a kid. That's how I felt about the what is the world's largest diamond? And Dennis Smithsonian and as a kid you're expecting like this giant. Yeah diamond and you get over there and it's like. Living. It's twenty four by tall guys. Oh. Well a little bit more like it's. got. Twenty four and a half thirty, it's thirty by. Size of. Air Conditioning. Filter. And that's a little known fact it was used air conditioning filter for awhile, and that's how they stole it in the Davinci Code. Yes. I remember that Yep Tom Hanks didn't tell you that part diddy. So I. Think I think it's funny that everyone wants to take a picture of it when there's pictures of everywhere like why do you need a picture show that you've seen the real one? But I can show them in the Lou. You know it was like my big thing was getting a picture with the statue of David when I was there. Yeah. I mean, there's plows now that I gotta get a picture while I'm there. If I'm at the Louvre I'm going I'm done I've seen it. You want to close up of his penis didn't made me jealous. Diamond is the name of the diamond and own Ferrier said he's like forty five carrots. Yeah. But it's still by it's. Like it's not. Like. Maybe four inches in diameter. But it's deep. Yeah. It's at eight like me. Who you putting? For Head of household. Eli Mosque. I'm going a Java. I'm GonNa Miss Cleo because you have no, you could have gone betty white. Carol. Burnett. And let's roll for what competition this may be. You. Get my bad rolls out of the way five, five for intellect. Got The bad rules out of the way. Now, let me roll this one. Right and your numbers Care Burnett. Intellect of nine role five for fourteen. Miss Cleo. Anti elect of eight and I don't know twelve. Twenty. On Musk intellect eight rolled at twelve twenty. And JOA has a intellect to six wrote a twelve for eighteen. So Musk and Cleo, you need roll off. I know who we should put up for no matter. What are you aligning all the sudden? Why Person? Can hear you you're you're so far off the MIC. A Cleo wins even though she decided to have that whole conversation without being recorded because that's how you do it. I'm big brother you have to whisper. But we're not filming this. I was whispering who are you putting on the block? I am going to do Carol Burnett. and. Anne hathaway. Surprise, you didn't pick Miss Cleo. Machine. This you know this is why I never win. And who would you like to play for you? All right. Three people to play. She's GonNa win at all. nope. Out Not out okay. That one is. Why we can't have nice things. You get that one now. Much take to pick there's like six people left. But they're all people who've been out there left. We should have put the players in. That makes too much sense. Yeah. It's like I'm at work. You're saying. Are you still picking I. Don't think. So you hovered over the bowl for quite a long time. She does that that's why she shujaat the Internet. That's right. Okay I picked Elon Musk. A Joh- I got Betty White. Competition, will be. A intellect competition. Oh wait. That's me. Okay. We're Barbie. Another to. One. Life is fantastic when you're plastic. Come on Barbie. Let's go party AH. Funeral Parlour. So. Miss. CLEO numbers. And she has an intellectual eight rolled a sixteen for twenty four. Burnett. And selective nine, fifteen for twenty four who Anne hathaway. Intellect. Intellectually learn rolled a eleven. Total? Barbie. Intellect of sex role, the one seven. You'd on musk intellect eight role to seventeen for twenty-five Jarrell Jiwa Jarwal while Jarrell is not endless. Intellect six, role, two, three for nine. These. Aren't Detroit you're looking for betty. White. Until. Active six role of fourteen for twenty. These are the old people you're looking for Elon Musk. You have power, of veto. Anne hathaway is getting saved. What? What Evil What Evil Are you doing now jail? I'm banking on something happening and hoping for the best. There's definitely evil in your eyes. No I'm taking a gamble. No, you're taking an evil. I've never taken any walk. I am going to replace Anne hathaway with Betty White. Not who I thought. Betty White House told you who is going after. Hobbling. Over to the. But that's not who I was looking at because they're slowly showing more. I know but I'm telling you that one's bigger threat. Can someone put some oxygen on anyway. So, that she can stay in the game and be nuts reviewing threat turbo nuts removing her oxygen. Younger than Betty. White. I Canada and So I take put, they got one of the old people. Yes. Down to jail. This CLEO's head of household Laura. Panetta myself and. The, other one. There nobody wants to attack betty white no I just think the other one in real life nobody wants to attack. I. Feel like we can give it another round. See. That's what you think and then they slipped through the crack I think the other one can be taken out. because. You know who I'm thinking yes they do and they all right. bye-bye Betty White Betty white taken in an ambulance to the hospital. Soon needed a break anyway she's gotta go either hot dogs and vodka. But. You know what? You know who I was looking at. And I think that one can be taken out. That's fine. But he's GonNa put that one for how of household right now. Or Am I. Put Up. You're not roll out. A suspect. Wall. You're all fired. There will be no severance package. Zero is still the. million. Dollars Severance package I didn't tell you. The case you wouldn't be living in these wards. One bedroom household. On the show. Studio houses are thing. Okay. Good. Well, I'm called tiny houses i. do enjoy the fact that I can reach the kitchen here. It is nice. We have to do that. I'd never had to get up and go to the bathroom. During the show. The bucket to the right of me has served its purpose to you need to go. No. Okay. The bucket to the right of the. Purpose. Well, just remember what's in the glasses not lemonade. Well, you bastards I'm putting up two zero hour for head of. I haven't done in a while Jesse got going for it. I didn't even know we still there. Yeah I know that's how jail wins says the CHARACTER ELLEN GOES I didn't even know he was still there. You know I don't think he ever did well on the show. I I only know from the Bit Mr Pictorial. All right. Ladies to you know what? I'm putting up Miss Cleo notes Barbie. I can only one person you to people to choose from. Line. Through this last time. Man It's like a bad recurring. Carol Burnett. All right role for competition. Nine oh six. Intellect. That's how Sabrina has. Really Been Sixes, but she's really nine. This is a strength, right? Intellectually. It doesn't matter. He's that good. No bad. I'm rolling Laura. So this just is not working out well, the whole game jail. I know we both been like that I've had I had what one I had. Two good ones. That was me all last year for what the five rounds that you claim you are in. All right I didn't get addicted the first round last year. Just got her. Own, his intellects a five he wrote a twelve for seventeen. Barbie. While her. Intellect is a six and eight, three, four, nine. Nine rolled eleven for twenty. So all has. Nine enrolled fifteen. For Twenty Four. He's holding up. The middle feather to all of them. I had no part of anything less time. dopey conspiring over there in front of me. Yeah. Well in that case. Rapid anyways. is going to be. Carol Burnett. and. I'm going to pick. There's five people left I. Know, right it's between two. You know I'm going to go Jesse God's. Love That's 'cause Jesse got doesn't always crack a cold one with everybody. For My. Extra pick my job while because I have no other choice. So. When we're down to like having one person say I went had a household with like whoever's left us a one? I still have to put them up. I can still become head of household. Yeah. That's how I think that's how we've been playing it. Okay. Just making sure. I need a different one just getting stupid. Yeah their head of household right now. A ONE A two. A three crunch. All right. What competition are we playing? Four for strength no intellect to what I said that into my. So do we need to know who else is in? Yes, I picked Anne hathaway. I picked Miss Cleo. I picked Barbie. Wow Laura. You're stacked on this one. Yeah. So Sabrina. I've got one person. Let's see. Here we go. That's been me a lot. By by. What did they intellect rate intellect. Well. I'm not going to have much of a factor in this one. Son Poisonings making which. You've been sunburned for two weeks All right. So two zero AL has a intellect nine enrolled four for Thirteen Carol Burnett. Interactive. Nine, eighteen, twenty seven. Rigged. Jesse Gutter it's. Like a five I rolled a seven for twelve. JOA has a intellect of six role to five for eleven in hathaway until eight role two, three for eleven. Miss Cleo. And Selective April the sixteen for twenty four and Barbie and selective six role to thirteen. Nineteen. Pretty smart for hunk. Of Plastic. That's because she's an astronaut, a lawyer, a doctor, the president. Single mother, a divorcee, and she got all of the stuff in the divorce. SIXES under. Carol Burnett are you I'm removing myself. Yourself that's weird. I figured it wasn't GonNa win this one. So I will be back door and Miss Cleo. You're not thinking through again. Again. You do this every year. I don't think she's his biggest threat. Sure. She has these same stats that Mona Lisa did her stuck around or ever. Will you're not willing to talk to me. You have numbers sort of you. These same sheets I do and you put me on the block against the strongest person at heart of this game is you're allowed to talk strategy and you always talk strategy after I. Make my moves. Rush and have to say it to you without you realizing it. No, you definitely need to say to. Come up with this show. I didn't come up with this show. At the PODCAST is. I, don't know. Jobe cutting money he started numbers. How many feels he had yesterday? How many fails Yay? And everything. Everything. Not Accomplish even throwing something away yesterday he had to put up three shower curtains. Nineteen regular. Charlie Brown. Okay so I. Oh boy I'm. Real. Don't get. At this. I don't get to pick either is down and now Sabrina Career Jesse gutters Yup. Who Jesse? gutters. seriously. Yes. She just wants to eliminate me. Yes. This is I. Got This round. You knew what I was talking about. But not everybody mind melds like you to. You need to say things out loud well, sorry that your Klingon and we're Vulcan. We're supposed to team up on the Kardashian over here. Is that a toilet reference? No. Yeah. Yes. Mary. On Star Trek or they're scary like wait a minute I mean Kardashians. I. Don't know what that means. Hey guess what I'm putting up Elon. Musk. All right. So we have left for honestly I had in my last two to be in this from the whole time. To recap was in the top of that to recapping. Laura has Miss Cleo and Barbie. Jail Has Elon Musk. tootsie roll our chow. WOAH and Sabrina has. An Anne hathaway. Who are you putting up for head of house-? I'm going Miss Cleo. Carol Burnett I'll let you guess. You should probably just. Spill it out for him. I'm honestly I'm as I've lasted this long. I am putting. Our. Role for competition. That me or is that. FOR FOR INTELLECT Okay All right Miss Cleo. I haven't influx of eight and I wrote a twelve for money. You Don. Musk intellect tan role to ten for eighteen. Intellect of ten enrolled a ten for eighteen of eight rolled attack eighteen. Did was I the only one that I heard ten and ten. Probably said that. Cabinet. intellect interactive nine rolled fifteen for twenty four. And? Has An intellectual role thirteen nineteen Carol Burnett, your head of household. To nominate. Elon Musk and miss. CLEO. Would have your back jail, but you've yelled at me this entire episode. Show more when I drank. Carol Burnett. Take it. You're putting in house away Shearim Plus One Really. You can figure that one out. Barbie. Seriously I guess we know who the favourite on the podcast. In. I think we're down to everybody in at this moment whatever. Just, roll for what the competition is at this point Sabrina can get this done and over with. So one of her characters you're. Losing anyways. That's okay and then there's three others one. Two three. Yeah. Everybody plays. Such a royal and Barbie. Jolla. But John was your seal yelling at me jail and I could be an ally. Six intellect. Barbie. Will never be good. You should be nicer. To potential allies. Especially when you can't just sit and drink anymore everyone else place. Full gear. They don't full beard. No that's patchy. Not as patchy nine. Carbonate. Intellect of nine role to two for eleven. On Musk, intellect of eight role, the fourteen for twenty to. Miss. CLEO. And to elect of eight role, the twenty, four, twenty, eight. and. Intellect of eight-year-old Fourteen for twenty two. Hours and intellect of nine enrolled fourteen for twenty-five Barbie. Intellect the sex three. Has Intellect of six and eleven for seventeen. Miss Cleo or you keeping yourself on the block planes who take myself off the block? And I am going to put on two zero. I can't vote. A camp. Vote jail can't vote. Laura. I guess you don't give a hoot. Account One. Three. Hey, guess what I'm putting up. Elon Musk for this next challenge. And in the same boat. Yeah Bring a cheated on the double twenties didn't say rolled to nobody saw it twenties and it was on a to. What's not I rolled both Added as zero on there so that what you could win Sabrina who you put up in hathaway. Laura Miss Cleo You down to one now. Yeah you got Barbie. See the funding. Yeah. Five intellect intellect. On Musk. And like eight to thirteen for twenty one. Joe Has intellect of six to ten for sixteen and hathaway. Intellect eight roller one for nine. And Miss Cleo and select late roll the twenty twenty. Jail pumps his fist in the air, which tells me that. Tells me a lot. I. Miss Cleo v Putting on the block I'm going to put up Carol Burnett Anne Anne hathaway. WHO's turns it to very big brother always has twists in this twist is we're not doing. Power. Veto. Joking. Took surprisingly well, she's like. Intellect that's all we've rolled his intellect. Swear we've been on a big intellect Bush. Oh. My Gel sits back down. If they sit. Nobody knows if they said. They do get disintegrated pretty well though they did sit in the mandatory never sat in new. Hope. This CLEO. She had an elective eight, eight, one, four, nine. Turban. Until Nine Road Sixteen for twenty. Five. House away intellect of eight role one for intellectual nine Jolla also entered nine after rolling a three. Barbie. Has. An. Intellectual. Sixteen for twenty two. On Musk has an intellect of sixteen after rolling in eight Carol Burnett. Keeping yourself on the block. Now, I'm GonNa, Take Carol, Burnett, and Miss Cleo. Already. wrote it though what what was I going to do? I wrote it down and I'll I'll turn the paper over. Sending signals to each other I didn't send anything no I've been on my own is in. Jail and Laura. Have a secret alliance but they don't have to talk. They just look at each other. Now's not the time for alliances. You put him up vote for the right one. All right. Bye. Bye. Anne hathaway. Yeah but you're not. I think we're down to one player each Laura note or has to whereas Cleo Barbie jails down with musk I have Joa and Sabrina Has Carol Burnett. This is the rounds where the heartbreak starts having. My heart breaks started around one. You weren't the first one hour you. Know, he worked the first one out. So we got mosque Jarwa Carol Burnett and. I have to do Barbie. Elon Musk. Yeah I said. I figured it out now. We're good. I'm glad I'm glad. I'm not looking at a giant list. Role for. Competition. One strengh. My Barbie is the same. Either way could have met her. All right. Could be worse mine's pretty, bad. That's bad. That's How You know I just want you know strength is not his strong suit is hoping for the best. Lawn. Musk. Here's a strength of four and he wrote a fourteen for an eighteen. CIA has a strength of four road. Eleven fifteen. Carol Burnett. Sank three rolled or one for four. And Barbie by be has a strength of six enrolled than eight for fourteen. He Musk pulls it out when he needs to. That's that's why he got in trouble. All right there on. Mr Pink Shirt who you put on the block we wear pink on Wednesdays. I'm putting up Miss Cleo and Carol Burnett. Everybody's playing, which is. Barbie Joe at this point. Yeah Okay and they competition will be. A Strength Competition Oh, because that's worked out really well for all of us none of these characters are super strong it's Not GonNa help me. ooh. Musk on musk. Oh, he has a strength of foreign enrolled at three I seven. Miss Cleo as a strength of four and the six ten. Carbonate strength of three in ruled a twenty for. Twenty three see I don't believe these twenty. I, watched a role at this time. Joa. Has a strength of four enrolled a ten for fourteen and Barbie has a strength of six to six for twelve. Look keeping yourself on the block new I'm taking myself off and it goes up. and. The job will go on the block. which leaves of Sabrina, it's your decision between Cleo and the. Miss. CLEO. Somebody's going home for good this round. I'm picking Elon Musk to be fair pick right out. Actually know who you are GonNa pick I'd to bring in a surprise and bring back Mona Lisa Veto. Next year new rule no no more than one and a half names. I've decided to bring in a new wrestler Hillbilly Jim is now coming to the house. Is that a real wrestler. Yeah. For. For into intellect. This is an important head of house. Is it a twenty this time? Probably because that's all she'll. She'll be good. Good thing dnd person moved to Michigan or wherever Pennsylvania same thing. Yeah, they're right next to each other. All Right Barbie. Oh asked if she's eight eight total. He is a twenty eight total. Joe Is a sixteen total and Carol Burnett Twenty total. Well, look at that. He Lawn Musk pulls it out once again. Somehow. Feel every year you sit back and then suddenly Pulau wins at the end. I feel that's why I'm GONNA put up a Java and Carol. Burnett I feel like you do. which leaves. Barbie. To play. Let's see what the challenges. To sex intellect. At least I have a chance. Feel like that's she? Hit the bottle cap. That's how she's been doing it. She bounces off the bottle cap every. All already lawn. Gone eleven overall. Joe Has Twenty Four Overall Carol Burnett Twenty one overall and Barbie Eleven. A weird twist of fate I'm leaving. No. Barbie and Carol. Burnett. which leaves the question. Of Its She has been head of household and this is the first time barbies actually know. I was thinking of something else I got confused but Carol Burnett. But thanks for letting me play this long. Narrow your first year hey, we got to think that I choose really good people. We got this great game, but you're out in five. Six because I didn't go out the first round. To how now that we're down the three? How do we do it? To. Use The restroom you people get to fight over people He's a plus that I never. What's IT GOING TO BE? All right final head of house-. Bring a has it in front of her? So we have one should we have Sabrina roller to be impartial? Sure. We have Barbie Musk and Joe Joe. Not just any Jolla the. Wall. Headed Jolla in here before I never had a job before I always have a star wars care. You pick too Jolla time. If dot it was just sub kid t to person it's always a minor. Minor I never. Ever admit to. Eighteen so minor. He will in the movies he's very minor. He is. He's. He's got a brother in the books. He's got a breath new life with. The. Mandatory and even though it's not. Per Se but I mean type of droid. One. You got them all so. that. Was What I g eleven idea eleven. Yeah. All right, what competition are we doing? Intellect intellect. For final head of house-. Nope, never there when you need it. Barbie well, Barbie has an intellect of intellect. It doesn't matter both numbers sex associated twenty one, she wrote a fifteen. Wow birdy comes through in the Clutch Yulon Musk. Intellect of eighty, nine for Seventeen So we have musk and ajar on the block. All, right. So power of veto. Sabrina. Strength. Strength. Great. Strength. Barbie. Has a strength of six? She Roll The sixteen for Twenty. Two. On Musk. He's got a twelve overall. Joe Has Twenty Four. put it out in the Clutch Navy and so we have the worst finale. Barbie Anna Jaw. You mean jails not going to win this year. For the first time ever Guys I really. Don't care who wins. Change. How do I know the truth because I picked my cast based upon getting eliminated in the first five rounds All right we'll take a break as we add up the numbers. Those points Head of household and power veto. It's the terms the winner I can already tell you it's to to you had to power vetoes I had one hundred household. Oh it's too too. So they have to vote jail and want to win. Okay. It's a secret vote right on a piece of paper. vote between doing a secret vote you say allowed Okay Barbie Barbie. So we're doing a secret vote. You couldn't get me my first. Congratulations Laura. You Win Big Brother Twenty twenty coronavirus addition. With the worst character to ever play. I Take Barbie. I really did. Has. She joins softball characters who I can't write like Buffy, the vampire slayer LEX luthor and there's one more. Here's one more. Who is my other one? I thought it was another wrestler all. Year I'll tell you. Didn't win but she definitely played spoiler for a lot of people. Who was the first person eliminated our big brother? Ever Hitler the Rock. Because, Nicole wanted to get rid of the rock. Because she went he's too strong but meanwhile, she had Zach F- Rod who has the strongest person out there and she made him even stronger than the Rock and I looked at Chris and I said, we need to get rid of Zach Ephron. He goes. Yeah you're right. We need to get rid of Zach fraud and it took us like four turns to finally do it but we finally got rid Zach because otherwise he probably would have won the whole thing and that year we was number two questions Zach Ephron strength the it wasn't super duper gigantic buff sack Ephron at that point it was shortly after high school musicals. Pre Baywatch Zach like right before watch came out where he was in super shape but he was not the steroid monster he is today. Up Congratulations Laura. As winner you have to by everybody around all right I already do that anyways. So Speaking of rounds. Oh. Me and he took my line. No new. Gutter Way Gray. Law. Way. Mellowing. Let us rate this beer. What is this again? It is from Hidden Springs Brewery there man child. PBS Jay Berliner. Alright Sabrina your first. it wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. You always says. It. Wasn't as hard as a sour, but it was still like up there. It smelled like tricks. Six tricks like. Rabbit. But it was only like tricks that had been left sitting in a bull for some time without melt like they were still trick late yet because it was like that strong smelling. Like mushy peas. No. But Laura said it smelled like mushy peas with the first time she smelled it. Yeah, because you you got Pantley I just think she be smelled sweet. Well and it was like you got a sweet taste but then then kickoff peanut butter was in there. So it was. More Pineapple. No. Don't think about it too hard. Keep going. Explain later. So four. Four I'll go next. I. Wish it wasn't a sour I think I would have liked it a lot better. If it wasn't a sour, it's the tartness that really turns me off I. I like the flavor at first and then I'm I'm sucking in my cheeks. It yeah we would have raised this way higher if it wasn't a sour. I actually don't taste any peanut butter. It's like all grape smell the peanut butter does I didn't smell it. It's like tricks mixed with peanut butter. Tricks. Yeah. twix, Trixie Twix, it's one of those two things it's sixty tricks. I often put twix in my tricks when I eat them. I'M GONNA go. If. I'm having between the two or three I'm I'm going to because of this hour no sour probably would have given it a higher score to. Bore. Excited that it was a PB and J. that wasn't a stout because I am not a fan of stout would have been better as a stout and now I don't think. So but a lot of peanut butter chocolate in there. Yeah. A lot of peanut butter ends up being in a stout can of beer I typically like the sours better because I like tart. But I don't know of the smell was off putting to me. But? I did not like the way it smelled at all and I think taking a sip of it with the smell was not good so. I didn't think it was overly Hartley Chris. Did may cheeks never puckered lake once? but it still wasn't something that I would be excited have again I'm gonNA give it to like it was there I'll drink it but now A to beer master. I liked it. It had good flavor the aroma of the peanut butter in there it was really good and I. For a sour thought, it was really good. I don't typically like sour. So this was a pleasant surprise when I had it. Over I probably give it a four. Hour, I don't think I could drink a six pack of them in one sitting but I, think the drink ability is pretty good. And overall a decent beer. So far from you. Yeah. to. Well we survived another big brother. And most of us. Are Still Friends. I am not friends with any of you people anymore because I wanted my first win. But I guess my let my wife win. Three. I was so excited when my jaw was like. Had the high score. It did him no good. Because you people. I mean you people I mean you people He means US podcasters. So. Jail Win O. Win Jail Win and Laura. It let the history book show. I got second-place. Finally. I'm the first loser. Now they can play. First place is always the first loser. It's backwards master. Pride and being I out. Two years in a row guys see me as a huge threat and I'm okay with this. New Keep, telling yourself that you need to worry about your rankings and maybe you have some that fly under the radar. Even, when I have people that flew under the radar no, you get out. Yeah. Because Ron Weasley was like a six and a four. I. Still not. Under. The radar enough. Really, because it's always been lower than yours. And you that of one? been lower. Lower than what Laura has now yeah. Barbie was a six six new. Yes, and the whole reason Barbie flew under the radar so much because five and eight and nine and threes on somebody's. Kept sticking around entire list. Barbie. Barbie is twelve and Carol Burnett was twelve but yes, there you go. Barbie waivers was more in one category than the other and was the category that we were rolling more Barbie winning. This is like when Josh one real big brother, the guy who slam the pots and pans together throughout the whole season. I don't know what you're talking. He is the worst winter that year there's so many people. Winter. barbies a bed winner Roy but the jaw would have been a bad winter to sleep on the couch. Tonight jello would've been a bad winter too. I would rather see betty white or two zero owl from my team win. That's why we had to take those two out. Were you taking them out to? Restaurant. Yes we're. GonNa go. Bake. Well, I'm Christopher Devos. Sabrina appear to have to tell people where to find us or anything or we good we can. Go for Jail I. Don't know where to find us I'm already here. Well if they're listening, they've already made it as well. You can give us a call and tell us what you thought about big brother. Our phone number is and how the JAL got screwed. And how Sabrina was a target for many many. Rounds, and yet I stuck in a little bit landing phone. Seven, two, seven, two, three, eight, Fifty, eight, Eighty, seven, where you can find us on our facebook group the official podcast forty to facebook page. 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"Perhaps one day. You will go on vacation to Italy, maybe Rome and on a weekend. You might go a little bit outside of Rome with a shovel and start digging. And if you're very very lucky, you might unearth, a marble sculpture, a bust something priceless. But you will look at it and quickly come to the conclusion that something is very wrong because the sculpture won't be bright, white marble. The sculpture will be painted. Hey, it's Jeff and this is a kimbro. I here's a message from our sponsor Lenovo. Hey, this is Brad Meier in my small businesses boundary supply. We mix specially travel gear designed for the adventure seeker outdoor enthusiasts in an all got started with three guys one dream in one bag ver- all pretty burnt out with some of the current products out there in our field and one of the way to experience more freedoms to travel and to really live our lives while doing something meaniful to make this happen and produced the quality of products. We wanted we need the capital to get a project off the ground and to take it from design to reality. So what was the defining moment? Stay tuned to hear the rest of my story. And to see what made a difference for me, and my small business Margaret Talbot in a great article in the New Yorker, chronicles, Chroma phobia, the fear that historically some people have had of. Paint of color and the history of why we think that Greek and Roman sculptures, the ones that are coming to mind when you think of Greek and Roman sculptures should be white because they weren't white. They were painted. And yet we think they should be white. She quotes art historian Fabio Barry, who's now at Stanford who's complaining that a recreation of some sculptures that he saw of the emperor Augustus at the Vatican museum, quote, look like a cross dresser trying to hail a taxi. But it's not just recently that people have spoken up because it turns out it's not just recently that colored statues have been turning up for over a hundred years experts in the art world have known that marble sculptures from Greek in Rome were painted and yet despite. Fight all the evidence. Mostly they're displayed in their original, white one reason is that when you look at these painted sculptures, and you can see some pictures at akimbo dot link. If you click the show notes is that they look wrong. Not only do they look wrong in the sense that they don't match what we think they should look like, but they're sorta ugly sorta amateurish they rub people the wrong way. How did we get here? And what should we do about it? I a little bit of a note about the regular kind when it comes to art. Think for second. I'll wait name the most famous painting in the world. He got it. Everyone says the same thing the Mona Lisa, but as recently as one hundred and fifty years ago, the Mona Lisa was generally unheard of. It wasn't a famous painting. It certainly wasn't considered the best painting in the world. So what happened? What happened is a great story in one thousand nine eleven and artist went to the Liuw to look at one of his favourite paintings at instead of seeing the Mona Lisa all he saw was an empty wall. He went to one of the guards and asked where's the Mona Lisa the guards that I think it's being photographed while not content with that answer after a few hours, the artist went to the head of the guards only to discover that the painting had been stolen they closed the Louvre for a week trying to find it. They arrested a number of suspects including Pablo Picasso, but it wasn't him. It turns out it was an employee of the Louvre a guy named Vincenzo Peruggia. And he a proud Italian felt like the painting didn't belong in a French museum. And he walked in during the day and in broad daylight hid in a closet. He waited. It until the museum was closed. Then he snuck out grabbed the painting off the wall hid it under his coat and walked out of the museum and for two years, he hung it in his living room. But that's not answering the question. It's just to see trivia, he hung it in his living room. And no one knew it was there was a rumor that someone had hired forgers to paint six variations of the Mona Lisa. So they could be sold privately as the real thing. But mostly because it was such a juicy story. It was on the front page of newspapers around the world. And in the early nineteen hundreds many newspapers were actually in color. So here was this painting on the front page of newspapers around the world over and over again for years, and then just as it started to fade Vincenzo lost patients. So he went. To the people who ran new Fizi in Florence and offered to sell them. The Mona Lisa. Day demured had him arrested. But that didn't keep them from hanging it in the few T for a few weeks before they sent it back to the Liuw. The thief only spent six months in an Italian prison, and then he was freed even more juice. So what that means is that for three years three years when we were shifting from a culture of villages disconnected villages to a worldwide media culture, a period when newspapers were really starting to hit their stride. The Mona Lisa was shown to us over and over again. So if we didn't have an icon for famous painting before we had one now. And so the Mona Lisa is the most famous painting ever. So here's the question. The first question if scholars determined that Leonardo actually painted a draft of the Mona Lisa with a moustache, and that that mustache was in his final painting. But that an art restorer had taken the mustache off. The question is would we put the mustache back on? Maybe we like the white sculptures because they're the regular kind because they remind us of a certain point of view about beauty because they're famous to be in the presence of a Michaelangelo sculpture a sculpture from ancient Greek or Rome is why we went to the museum in the first place. And if they start painting them, maybe just maybe they won't feel like the famous sculptures. Maybe they'll feel like cheap imposters the story goes deeper than. In this though, a guy named Johann Vinko men was the German scholar who is often hailed as the father of art history. He lived hundreds of years ago. He wrote the whiter the body is the more beautiful it is. And he also wrote color contributes to beauty, but it is not beauty. Now. It's really easy to infer some racial overtones here or consider girth Gerda who by some measures is the Shakespeare of Germany. He wrote many books treatises scientific papers here is girders estimation of himself in his book on color theory that I am the only person in this century who has the right insight into the difficult signs of colors. That is what I'm rather proud of. And that is what gives me the feeling that I have outstripped. Many. Wow. If he was around today, he would have invented Facebook. Anyway, here's what he said about whether or not ancient Greek and Roman sculptures were white or whether they were painted savage nation's uneducated people and children have a great predilection for vivid colors. He went on to say people have refinement avoid vivid colors in their dress. And the objects that are about them one theory. Then is that northern European scholars who are differentiating Greek and Roman sculpture from the sculptures. They were finding say in Egypt or in parts of Africa or even Asia because those sculptures those paintings were painted vividly, sometimes garishly, and that's understandable. They are art after all. And so one theory goes that northern European like Gerda like the sculptor August Rodin wanted the Greek and Roman statues to be white white, the color of purity, white the color that they were used to in their culture and society because white was beautiful color was garish color was from the other color was from the outside. But white white was what they thought. But it goes even further than that. Because let's imagine for a moment. You're a restorer that you're working on the Elgin marbles at the British Museum where that you've found some sculpture in the ground a sculpture the takes months to dig out your job. It seems is to get as close to perfect as you can anyone who has ever used a power washer or a pair of electric. Hair? Clippers knows that the easiest way to get to perfect is to go all the way down to the skin that once you start restoring one of these sculptures and part of it shows up white just keep going keep going because it's asymptotically you can get closer and closer to perfect. There are no spots that don't quite match because it's all the same piece of rock. And so we have all of these things lining up as one and then I'm going to add one other one which is this. Sometimes we want to look at things that are beautiful. And sometimes we wanna look at things that are historic and when we look at the re-creations of painted sculptures. It's easy to say the person who sculpted this was a genius. There is almost no one alive today that we know of. Of if we're an outsider like, I am who could ever carve a piece of marble to make it look like this and the thought that thousands of years ago with no electricity, and no power tools of any kind someone quarried a giant piece of marble out of the side of a mountain and turned it into this that is inactive genius on the other hand when we look at the colors that were chosen at the way these sculptures were painted. It's easy to look at it and say, not only does it inspire me and that could be cultural. But I don't think is that good because the fact is the person who painted it probably wasn't in the same league wasn't coming from the same background as the person who sculpted it, and that might be okay. So when we look at art, historically, maybe. We need to celebrate the fact that when it was built when it was erected it looked like this. But it's not going to change the way our culture influenced by positive and negative thoughts throughout the years has decided it's supposed to look and the same thing is true with every other element of our culture. We are surrounded by perceptions in myths about how something is supposed to be because that's the way we grew up with it. Thing about something as ordinary as Indian food Indian food wasn't spicy a thousand years ago. There were plenty of people in India. But there were no hot peppers just black Pepper's hot peppers didn't get there until they came over by boat from the Americas. But that's the regular kind or consider the tomato. The tomato something that wasn't served on a pizza in Italy until the year eighteen eighty why did it take so long for the tomato? I found by Europeans in Mesoamerica in the fifteen hundreds to make its way onto the pizza for a really long time for centuries Europeans were told that it was poisonous. It was poisonous. They said possibly because if you had pewter plates the acid from the tomato would react and could give you lead poisoning. It was poisonous perhaps because sometimes in the garden big ugly worms would eat the leaves of the tomato. I love this quote from Ralph WALDO Emerson who said the worm was an object of much terror it being currently regarded as poisonous and imparting a poisonous quality to the fruit. If it's a chance to crawl upon it and the rumors spread that these worms were actually poisonous. But it's most likely that the tomato came from far away that the tomato came from a warm climate and so northern Europeans fearing, the strange fearing the warmth, the equator said that it was best eaten by people who lived in a climate like that one. My point is even after the tomato was demonstrated to be delicious and completely safe. You can imagine the generation after generation of traditionalists refused to put tomatoes on their pasta. The same thing may be true of the way. We're looking at the history of what color, a marble statue ought to be that. When I look at it having grown up believing that the regular kind of statue is white and maybe a little off white. It looks weird. It looks funny. It looks wrong. But what the art experts yard story in the scholars are telling us is this is what it used to look like, and we need to look right at it. And see it the way the Greeks and the Romans sought because only then do we have a chance to develop the empathy to be able to understand that for them. This was the regular kind. The next time. We take a look at a piece of culture are piece of culture and decide that we can't challenge the accepted regular kind. Perhaps it's worth taking a moment to consider. Why we think the new thing isn't the right thing in a minute. We'll be backed answer your questions from last time. 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And this is my difference maker story. Kyle reading set. This is Stephen out Madison Wisconsin set Alicia from Charleston here. Hi. Warm greetings from curious out basis. Nick, Ryan from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Hey sent this is Rex. Hi, hi. This is Roberta Perry. My question is. And that completes my question. As always we love to hear from you. Visit a Kim Bo dot link. That's aka I m b o got L I N K and press the appropriate button. You can ask your question. And I'll do my best to answer it. Before I answer Russell's questioned a clarification about the fabulous. Te cubby broccoli chubby broccoli like many people in Hollywood made up a lot of stories. Some of those stories have been reported as truth by the L A times and managed to surface their way into various corners of the internet cubby Broccoli's father, did not invent broccoli. And I know that, but it's also true that many many generations earlier, his family were broccoli farmers. And it's true that the land his father farmed broccoli on in Long Island in abled cubby to have the resources to head to Hollywood where it is possible. He met Howard us on his first day. And Howard us ended up giving him a big break years later. Maybe you can never tell with these things. My name is Russell from Ashland. Oregon nyah the question for you about the evolution of ideas. Maybe beliefs so to make that clear, I think that were largely driven by what we believe and what we believe is often unconscious. So if you're trying to reshape yourself or your small community that you've created and start pushing towards a different hopefully, more positive shared belief that will guide people's actions like the beliefs that you can do good get out there and make a ruckus, for example. What do you do for yourself to maintain awareness? I guess so that you can continue. To push yourself in any direction. And then what do you do when you're trying to as have that persistence necessary in someone's life to continue reinforcing this new idea that you're trying to to share with others hope that was clear, or at least as an interesting sheet of a question that might come up later. Thank you. Thank you for this question. Russell you're getting at the heart of how our brains work. It turns out that our conscious narrative that monkey Lous up there that narrating what's happening almost never gets involved in our happiness. What we believe in? What we do that the sub-conscious is what's running everything and the conscious is simply a narrator. But to your point about beliefs what we know. Is that we change our beliefs by changing what we do not the other way around that. If we start acting like a generous person, we will come to believe that we need to be generous not the other way around. So if we want to change the way a community believes we begin by changing the way the community acts, then when we catch people doing something right and amplify it, and repeat it the ideas are more likely to stick and to spread because people repeat what's working. So as the leader in the community as somebody who is helping to set the standard. What we get to do is not really changed beliefs. We could argue about those all day long what we can do is model and reward and amplify actions. It gets back to the key. The sentence. People like us do things like this. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. I just don't think it's possible or probable in in today's world to distinguish yourself as an educational institution or as a success seeker at the level of information, gathering or information distribution. I mean, this is the information age, and you can get a great book, a great essay a great idea anywhere. You know in none of us can do that better than the internet. Right. There is no great thought leader who can out think the internet like we have data. What MBA gets right? Is. It puts you in a context where you're part of a community. That says, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's good. You got access to ideas. You got access to information. That's awesome. But when you're gonna show up when are you going to face that blank page when you going to face, the possibilities within you? When you gotta face those fears. I'm not gonna let you gotta show up, and that's the hardest part. And it sounds simple. It sounds very commonsensical. But. It's the number one reason why we don't write that book. It's the number one reason why we don't ask that question. It's not because we don't know where we don't have the information. We don't have an environment. And we don't have a support network that makes it feel like showing up as possible for me. Not just possible for the success stories. I see out there, but I can show. Consider the alt- MBA. 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The Secrets of the Self: Essence
"I come back to daily bread. Deepak Chopra these weeks. We have been uncovering hidden dimensions of life. I just wanted to remind you that. This whole daily bad series on secrets is actually drawn from my book. The book of Secret. So if you feel inclined you might want to get the book as well to reinforce your in descending this week we reach the core of our exploration this is that everything is pure essence so pure awareness pure consciousness. Essence is the ultimate mystery because it manages to do three things all at once. It conceives everything in existence. Imagine anything in existence I imagine a rainbow imagine sunset. Imagine the face of your mother or the sound of voice. Imagine listening to John Lennon. Imagine the song itself. How does it start you start? With the conception and intention an conception awareness modifies itself is the concept it turns wattage has imagined into reality. So you imagine creating a great Sculpture What Did he looks at the stone piece of rock a marble piece of marble and imagines David and that's how he starts. What is imagination is turned into reality? Any great piece of art starts like that. The Mona Lisa Michelangelo's Beautiful Sculpture Does but even scientific discoveries Einstein imagined that he was writing on the beam of light from there can the Tiriac relatively so imagination is stunned into reality and then it enters that reality and keeps it alive so essence our consciousness or awareness has conceived constructed imagined governed and then it becomes what we call reality because awareness is embedded in what it has imagined saved simply put I exist. I am an I create I exist. I am aware 'cause I am is the beginning of awareness and then from there on I conceive construct imagine govern and create these The three qualities I exist. I'm aware I create frequently referred to in Sanskrit Nanda South is truth of existence. This awareness on under the joy that comes from unlimited creativity These are the three qualities of essence that permeate the universe all that is required to find the essence of life is step outside the picture and see yourself before the imagination before the conception and that is I am but that the mantra I am
Been Caught Stealing (ep. 125)
"Today's episode is brought to you by your brain on facts the book want the fact that my voice ask your local bookseller for the your brain on facts book. But if you want my voice without the facts, I am available for voice over work and listeners get fifty percent off no job too small email me Moxie at your brain on facts dot COM When you think of big heists your mind probably goes to thankful faults jewelry and fine art. Maybe a casino carefully organized plans by people dressed in black turtlenecks with lots of cool gadgets close calls. What we remember as the daring heist of one of the world's most famous paintings. was really neither of those things. The heist wasn't particularly daring and the theft of Leonardo DAVINCI's Mona Lisa. Wasn't even noticed until well after it had happened. My Name's Moxy and this is your brain on facts. These days the Mona Lisa also called in Italy login Kanda and her famous enigmatic smile hang in a prominent place in the Louvre in Paris. It holds the Guinness World Record for the highest known insurance valuation in History at one, hundred, million dollars in nineteen, sixty two. So. That would be about eight hundred million dollars today. Over six million people go to see it each year. It's so popular that you can't even snap a quick Selfie of it without having a few dozen other strangers, hands, and cell phones in the frame. This popularity certainly wasn't the case when the painting was I hung in the Leuven eighteen o four or for the century subsequent. Neither was popular with critics when the artistic elite who often relegated it to the low end of DAVINCI's work it was basically just another painting. It was so unsocial in fact that it took the better part of twenty four hours before staff even noticed the painting was missing in Nineteen. Eleven. A handyman named Vincenzo Perrugia was working in the museum and he simply waited in a closet until after the museum had closed. Tuck to the painting under his smock walked on out. He was unwittingly aided by a plumber also working in the museum who unlocked a for Peruta when he found himself stuck inside. The police were called and they searched the museum. The only sign they found the Japan Kanda was frame laying on a staircase. Though police did find some twenty one other paintings in the museum. The curator's had previously reported missing. The. Search went citywide then national then international. Ships were searched before they left France or after arriving in their port of call. A reward of over half a million dollars in today's money was offered. The Mona Lisa's picture was printed in newspapers all over the world. It became a of Mona Lisa Mania. The theft of this single painting served a spawn multiple criminal enterprises. People on the wrong side of the law knew that those with more money than morals would want to buy. LEGITIM- Kanda. A pair of confidence men from Belgium hired a small army of forgers to make quality fakes, which they then sold to select around the globe. They made sure their buyers were unlikely to ever meet and rested soundly knowing that no one would let on that they had purchased the most famous stolen painting in the world. Though today, one of them would probably take a selfie with it. The huge reward and the number of fakes in circulation meant the police were inundated with leads. For two years they searched tirelessly. But Fruitlessly The sixty man strong force even interviewed, Peruta Twice. But decided, he couldn't be the criminal mastermind they were looking for. Not only did those two years not yield the Mona Lisa the police didn't even find the forgeries. The head of the Paris police retired in shame. Did, peruse, you get an enormous payday for the stolen painting. People were soon to learn that he didn't steal it for money. When ferruccio approached museum in Florence to sell them the painting, the museum's director called the police instead. After. His arrest Russia's stated. I worked in the Louvre making frames for paintings stolen from Italy by France every day I pass login Kanda and swore I would return it to its rightful home. He seemed convinced he would be heralded as a hero. This was sadly not the case but the Italian courts were sympathetic giving him only a year in prison for the world famous theft. These days legit Kanda sits behind more bulletproof glass than the pope could just as easily have been any other italian-born work. If a different one of Leonardo's works had been stolen said Noah charney professor of Art History and author of the thefts of the Mona. Lisa. Then that would have been the most famous work in the world and not the Mona Lisa. There was nothing that really distinguished it per se until it was stolen. The theft is what really skyrocketed its appeal and made it a household name. A quick aside for an art theft story that while not as famous is no less memorable. After, a pair of Spanish conmen discovered the Goya painting they had purchased was a forgery. They tried to recoup their losses by reselling the painting to an alleged Arab sheikh for four million euros using the same certificate of authenticity that had fooled them. Mysterious Italian middleman charged the Spaniards three hundred thousand euros to broker the deal. The two conmen traveled to Turin to receive one point seven million Swiss francs as down payment and pay the broker, the three, hundred, thousand euros which they had borrowed from a friend. However when the conman attempted to exchange the Swiss Francs in a bank in Geneva. It was discovered they had been given photocopies of Swiss Francs. The fake painting had been paid for with fake. Money. Though the money they gave the broker was very real. The equivalent of four, hundred, thousand dollars. To. Make matters even worse upon leaving Switzerland, the two were detained by French customs who discovered the fake Swiss francs in their suitcase and informed the Spanish authorities. The painting was also confiscated. Picture if you will an artist that is more famous for his techniques, then for the art he created. He took his teachers method. A not only created a small empire from it. He took business away from said teacher moving quickly from competitor to industry dominator. His teacher was given credit. In the beginning. The public was allowed to make what assumptions they would about where the technique came from. As long as they kept tuning into the show and buying the products. That artist's name. I am sorry to break this to you. Dear Listener. It. Was Bob Ross. Bob Ross the famously softspoken Afro headed host of the joy of painting was taught his famous wet on wet fast painting technique by a German ex pat named Bill Alexander who actually had his own pbs painting show called the Magic of oil painting which ran from seventy four to eighty to. Alexander's show like the joy of painting which ran from eighty three to ninety four was basically an advertisement for his painting supply. Business. Alexander. Art. Bob Ross began his adult life in the air force where he would rise to be master sergeant and was stationed in Alaska. which is no doubt why he painted so many snow covered vistas. He was constantly searching for an art teacher who could actually teach him to paint when he took a class with Bob? Alexander. The wet wet painting technique was an epiphany for. Ross. The joy of painting started airing on PBS in Nineteen eighty-three. At. First things were pleasant between Ross and Alexander with Alexander even filming a segment to pass the torch to his former student. The joy of painting generating so much business for Alexander art that they couldn't keep up with demand and someone that person's identity has been lost to history suggested to. Bob Ross that he should start his own art supply company. After Bob Ross Inc became a fifteen million dollar industry of how to books, videos and art supplies. Things between the two men changed. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one New York Times profile Ross declined to mention his painting teacher because quote he is our biggest competitor. He betrayed me Alexander said in an interview I invented wet on wet I trained him and he's copying me. What bothers me is not just that he betrayed me but that he thinks he can do it better. Full. Disclosure. Alexander. Did Not invent wet on wet or Alla Prima. It dates back at least as far as Vanik van Gogh and Monet. So, why was Ross able to eclipse Alexander to such an extent? It may come down to something as simple as likability. Alexander. was passionate an animated prone to rambling even singing off key. Ross on the other hand was laid back funkier and on threatening peace nick. Ross saw this distinction as did PBS station managers who realized as The New York Times reported is expanding circles. Viewers were for the most part not even painting. Nor did they have any plans to start? They watched the joy of painting simply because it was the most relaxing show on television. It is unfailingly simple a three camera production with black backdrop and at Ross's insistence no edits. Ross wears the same thing every time blue jeans and John Henry Shirt and in twenty six minutes not only completes a painting but also in his soft lullaby voice murmurs familiar Bob, `ISMs like. Happy little trees and what the heck. Let's give him a little friend over there and. There are no mistakes only happy accidents. The show was so nice to listen. that. It was even popular with blind viewers. Obscuring outselling his teacher aside, the Internet isn't wrong with its love affair. For Bob. Ross. Not only could he be called the Orgy of Asmar but you've gotTa love a guy who wants did an entire episode working only in shades of gray because he got a letter from a fan who said he couldn't take up painting because he was colorblind. Russ's trademark Afro was actually a perm that he'd initially gotten to avoid the cost of properly maintaining his crew cut and then when the show took off found, himself basically stuck with it. People would often tell Ross that his show put them to sleep. Did he mind. Now, he enjoyed that just as much as the people who said that he'd inspire them to paint. And one time he did the show with a tiny baby squirrel in his pocket. So you gotTa love that. From art we moved to science. What do you think is the worst part of working on a group project? Is it trying to come to a meeting of minds on what you're going to do? Is it that person who accepts their share of the assignment and then doesn't do anything? Or is it when someone takes all the credit for one of the greatest advances in our understanding of biology? Probably, the third one. That's what happened to the discoverer of the double helix shape of DNA English chemist and x Ray crystallography Rosalind Franklin. There's probably no other woman scientists with as much controversy surrounding her life and work as Rosalind Franklin. Asterisk for Marie curious love life. But that's another show. Franklin was responsible for much of the research and discovery work that led to the understanding of the structure of deoxyribonucleic acid or DNA. Born in Nineteen. Twenty. Franklin excelled at science and attended one of the few girls' schools in London that taught physics and chemistry. When she was fifteen. Sided to become a scientist and despite her father stance against higher education for women and his wish that Rosalind become a social worker she enrolled at. Newnham. College. Cambridge in nineteen thirty eight. She held a graduate fellowship for a year, but quit in nineteen forty two to work at the British coal utilization. Research Association. where she made fundamental studies of carbon and graphite micro structures. Cole was not only important for power, but charcoal was a key component in gas masks. Her research was her contribution to the war efforts, of world, War Two and was the basis of her doctorate in physical chemistry which she earned from. Cambridge. University in Nineteen forty-five. After. Cambridge. She spent three productive years at a laboratory in Paris where she learned x Ray diffraction techniques. X Ray Diffraction is an important non-destructive method for analyzing all kinds of matter from fluids to powders to crystals. The technique involved bombarding the sample with xrays rays, the electron cloud of the atoms in the sample, bend the X ray slightly. This makes a picture of the molecule that can be seen on a screen. In nineteen fifty one Franklin returned to England as a research associate in John Randall's laboratory at King's College London. It was in Randall's lab that she crossed paths with Maurice Wilkins. She and Wilkins lead separate research groups although both were concerned with DNA. Assigned Franklin, a DNA project that had already begun but no one had worked on, for, months. Wilkins was away at the time and when he returned, he misunderstood her role behaving as though she were an assistant disappointing but not surprising given the climate. Only, males were allowed in the university dining room, for example, and after hours, Franklin colleagues went to men only pubs. Nevertheless. Franklin persisted on the DNA project. Her techniques allowed her to take better images of the structure of DNA than anyone ever had before. Jd. Brunell. Scientist who pioneered the use of x Ray crystallography in molecular biology called her x Ray photographs of DNA the most beautiful x ray photographs of any substance ever taken without Franklin's knowledge or permission Wilkins showed these images and her data to James Watson and Francis Crick who were themselves working on DNA projects that. Photo was essential to the findings they published in nineteen fifty three again without Franklin. Knowledge. She was aware of their research but had no idea that her work had been subsumed into it as she was not credited at all. The closest she got was the journal Nature citing her work. To Bolster Watson and Crick's claims. Rosalind? Franklin. Can be working until her death from ovarian cancer in nineteen fifty eight. Four years later, Watson and Crick were awarded a Nobel prize for their discovery. They shared the award with Wilkins but made no mention of Franklin. Admittedly, Nobel prizes aren't awarded posthumously. So we'll never know if she would have finally received the credit she had been denied during her lifetime. But credit where credit is due I have to give thanks to people who have left reviews lately both for the podcast and for the book. On the various podcast players iceman eighty, eight, eighty, eight said, how can you not love this show five stars Love Moxie love you to iceman. And John Ravens bottom who deserves five stars of his own for that amazing surname said, this show is fantastic brilliantly written, paced and presented each episode contains so much depth that they are easily heard again and again with something new coming from each listen Moxie is very talented. Her usage delivery are perfectly suited to the material I look forward to learning more fascinating facts and amusing anecdotes from this incredibly professional and entertaining talent also looking forward to getting her book. I do hope that you enjoy it thoroughly John as did bill s who left a review on. Amazon need and Ernie Knowledge. Now, you're in the right place friend this is your source for the coolest little known facts and corrections on everything. You thought you understood the author writes as she speaks with a delightful blend of humor, wit and intelligence. Thank you so much bill as for that if you would like to hear your opinion, read on the show, leave a review for the book on Amazon or good. Reeds, which frankly is still Amazon or leave a review for the podcast on your favorite podcast player. The theft of intellectual property from one person is in arguably bad but it pales in comparison to stealing the life savings of thousands of people. Compounding. The Economic Crisis of two thousand eight was Bernie madoff and his ponzi scheme. He and his accomplices stole as much as twenty billion dollars with a B. from investors. They'd been at it for so long that to this day no one is sure exactly when they started. What we can be sure of is that most of the People Bernie Madoff bilked. We'll see little or no money ever come back outside of really bad fraud. What is a Ponzi scheme anyway? The basic mechanism is to promise your investors, irresistible returns and take their money. Then you promise amazing returns to a second group of investors, take their money and use it as the returns for the first group who will hopefully give you even more money to invest in huge bunny ears. Now that they see that the system works lot of bunny ears for this. then. You get a third group of investors and give their money to group to all while keeping back a tidy sum for yourself lather. Rinse repeat. The word ponzi itself is a proper Noun, the family name of a charismatic Italian emigrant who lived in. Boston. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty. Charles Ponzi stood only five foot two but he was a giant in his community though only briefly. Ponzi claimed that he had figured out a way to cash in on the chaotic post, World War One economic conditions of Europe by buying international, postal, union coupons from certain countries where they were discounted, then redeeming them at full value in the states. For example, a coupon could be bought in Germany for a penny and redeemed in the US for a nickel. Ponzi claimed he had an army of agents scouring Europe to buy up all the available discounted coupons. In. Nineteen. Nineteen and twenty Ponzi took in upwards of fifteen million dollars in small investments from forty thousand people. Many of them, Italian Americans and recent immigrants. People lined up around the block to get through the pie alley entrance to Ponzi Securities Exchange, commission and hand over their hard earned savings. The streets are paved with gold right? Everyone gets rich in America. Ponzi certainly did. He bought a hundred suits with matching shoes. He smoked copious cigars through diamond studded holders. His mansion in Lexington had air conditioning and a heated pool. He was just shy of lighting those cigars with hundred dollar bills while he propped his feet up on a poor investor. His life of reilly came to an end in the summer of nineteen twenty. After an investigation, the feds declared that every single postal coupon redeemed in the entire country by everyone. Wouldn't account for even a fraction of the Prophets Ponzi claims to have made. A public relations agent who worked for Ponzi told the Boston Globe the man is a complete financial idiot. He can barely ad he sits with his feet on his desk talking complete gibberish postal coupons. Publicist further claimed that Ponzi had never once issued or received a foreign financial draft? On Monday August ninth a bank commissioner declared ponzis accounts were overdrawn. On, Wednesday. It was revealed that Ponzi had served prison time in Canada for forgery and in Atlanta for smuggling illegal aliens investors swarmed his office desperately trying to get their money back. By that Friday Ponzi was in custody. In the face of over ten thousand creditors demanding four million dollars, ponzi declared bankruptcy. He was later sentenced to five years in federal prison for six counts of mail fraud since he had mailed his victims letters to report how well they're in it's doing. He served about three and a half of those years then got released to face state charges. for which he received a sentence of nine more years. But before he could go to jail, he jumped bail and tried to start new scams in Florida and Texas. You would think that the government would have learned their lesson about trusting this guy. Eventually though his time on the Lam ran out and he served his whole sentence. Upon his release Ponzi was deported to Italy where the man who was more clever than he was smart. Tried to defraud. Benito Mussolini. The rest of his life was a string of less successful cons and jail sentences until his death in a charity hospital in Brazil in nineteen forty. Nine. And as for our modern Ponzi, Bernie made off his currently earning forty dollars a in prison wiping down electronics and his scheduled for release in twenty thirty nine Oh excuse me twenty, one, thirty, nine. Thankfully. I know some folks who are a tad more trusting the supporters over at Patriotair Dot com slash your brain on facts. People must have been really impressed with me embarrassing myself by singing the names of the patrons the other day because in the past week, four new members have joined. So welcome and thank you to Thomas Brandie Ronnie and Elissa. Look forward to hearing your name Sung off key eventually probably. For a little bit longer members of all levels will receive all rewards which include ad free episodes. If the show has a sponsor that week bonus mini episodes such as the most recent one about the disaster that was opening day at Disney and spot the Lai, which is presently suspended. While we recast for a fourth host fellow PODCASTERS WHO WANNA get on get in on that by all means at me on the social media facebook and Instagram your brain on facts twitter's brain on facts pot. So I'm doing something a little different to take the place of spot alive for September I recently begun narrating audiobook says I get into doing voice work and there was a chapter in one of the books that I just had to share with somebody and that somebody was Paul from the varmints podcast which I'm assuming you're already subscribe to. So be there later this month to hear Paul's reaction to one of the most staggering things I have ever read Patriots Dot com slash your brain on fax. Much in the way, the Mona Lisa would not have been famous if not for a theft, it was theft by the late arly Ernie that made him arguably the world's most famous marine. When we first meet Gunnery Sergeant Hartman in Stanley Kubrick's nineteen eighty-seven Vietnam epic full metal jacket he's introducing recruits to the Marine Corp Camp. Artem in your finger girl and. On, you will speak only when spoken to and the first. Words out of your filthy sewer, we'll be served maggots understand that. Air You. A fair. Thus begins a six minute long rapid fire harangue much of which was improvised as a teenager. The Kansas native was arrested twice criminal mischief. The court gave him a choice. Prison or the military. Army. Chose the latter and joined the Marine Corps where he served for eleven years including fourteen months in Vietnam and two tours of duty stationed in Okinawa Japan. Eventually he became a drill sergeant, which was one reason he was so excelled in the role as drill Sergeant Hartman after retiring from the military decided on a different career path and began taking acting classes. He once told an interviewer that he devised a plan to break into Hollywood use his knowledge from military. To become a technical director uncertain films. Then once in the crew, show the filmmakers that he should be starring in their movies. The plan actually worked. Three times. Scoring him the first three roles of his career a sergeant in Sydney j fury's the boys in company. C A helicopter pilot in Francis Ford Coppola Apocalypse now and Hartman. The rule of Hartman originally belonged to actor Tim Cossery but he tired himself out after only thirty minutes of yelling at extras during a video tape for hersal. Army stepped in and took over His energy never let up. Coal sairy ended up playing a door gunner instead. Here's where the story starts to spin off a bit into modern legend territory. Some accounts claim that arly. Went to director. Stanley. Kubrick. And asked for the role of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman since his opinion, the actors on set more up to the job. When Kubrick declined army and for Kubrick to stand up when he was spoken to and the director reflexively obeyed. Got The role. Another account holds that army persuaded Kubrick to cast him by making a homemade audition tape showed him screaming insults with stone face as tennis balls and oranges thrown his head. Once, he landed the role according to the Guardian he rehearsed the same way. KUBRICK's assistant. Leon vitale would sit across from me in a fifty foot long room and hurled tennis balls at Emily Practices Lines. I had to catch the ball and throw it back to Leon as fast as possible and say the lines as fast as possible. Told The New York Times and Nineteen eighty-seven. If I were to slur a word, drop a word or slow down I had to start over I had to do it twenty times without a mistake Leon was my drill instructor. For the most part, the lines he was practicing weren't actually in the script. Ernie improvised about half of his dialogue drawing on his memories of the service. Inventing those insults wasn't particularly hard for him. That was just Ernie being drill instructor. My main objective was basically to just play the drill instructor the way the drill instructor was and let the chips fall where they may army said in history channel interview. You can ask any drill instructor who was down there in sixty five or sixty six. That's exactly how the drill instructors demeanor was. There were no punches pulled. Think you could think of as many insults his early Ernie you may want to think again. According to Stanley Kubrick had produced one hundred, fifty pages of insults. Though a kind and gentle family man in real life army would play essentially the same character in over one hundred projects as varied as HBO's Horror Staple Tales from the crypt, the short and really underappreciated Scifi series space above and beyond and more family friendly fare like the toy story movies where he voiced the little green army men SARGE. and. That's where we run out of ideas at least for today. But I'll leave you with a bonus. Super Geek fact in the same way that Kirk never said, beam me up Scotty and Sherlock Holmes Ever said elementary my dear Watson the phrase full metal jacket does not appear in the book the film was based on it made its way into the script after Kubrick at a gun catalog. Thanks for spending part of Your Day with me. Stay safe.
World Kidlines with Paxton - 7-8-2020 - Nagaland in India, The Louvre, The Mona Lisa, Mayas
"One jar know. My name is Paxton. The World Cup is awesome. I'm here to help you know and care more about the world beyond the USA. Today's date is July 8th. 2020. Our first kid line is covet lockdown inspires gardening in India's nagaland people invest Northeast State needed to grow vegetables because they couldn't get them during the lockdown. Our second cat line is the Louisville Museum in Paris. We open them, but you've got to wear a mask. If you want to see the Mona Lisa. Our third kit line is an underwater cave in Mexico shows see Club. Of the Maria of people that lived a long time ago in Mexico and other countries. It looks like the Maya remaining taking things from the ground twelve thousand years ago hour for the kit line is in Columbia. There are special days at this summer when people can go shopping and not pay taxes taxes are money given to the people who help control the country people are afraid that lots of people shopping Columbia will spread covid-19 faster. Our first headline is a monk from Ethiopia is 114 years old, but he got covid-19 and he lived most people in Ethiopia live until they're about seventy years old song. And our question of the day is what is the most famous painting at the Louvre in Paris? Is it a 350 Blind Mice by John Smith be the Mona Lisa by Leonardo DaVinci or see Dracula by Bram Stoker and the answer is be the Mona Lisa by Leonardo. Da Vinci is the most famous painting at the Louvre in Paris. Thanks for listening to world except lines with Paxton there lots more news for kids at little news sears.com. We're also on YouTube and major podcasting platforms made your sweetness shine and your colors glow sources for today's wage. lines include Al Jazeera CNN Africa news NPR and the BBC
200 BM Daily Vocabulary #114 | incredible
"Speaking radio channel presents beaming list word of the day. My name is and I'm your host for this episode. You're listening to episode number one hundred fourteen of season three today's word is incredible. The meaning of incredible is unbelievable. Unimaginable, extraordinary and spectacular with being list, peaking radio, China learn von you what every day and impress the world in this cab very lesson. You will learn how to use the word incredible reassure that this is a lesson will help you to enhance her English cavalry and speak English fluently and confidently incredible is spelt, as I and c r. E D. I. B. L E, the word incredible means unbelievable. Unimaginable or spectacular. For example, it is said to be incredible. If a footballer scores a goal at the last minute to win a match. What an incredible example, don't you agree? Listen carefully. How we can use the word incredible in eight different situations in eight different sentences example, number one of it, the concept of online food delivery was new to India, but within a couple of years of its launch. It is incredible that these service providers so lax of customers on a daily basis. Example, number two of eight the human body is an. Incredible machine. It has been studied for fast hundreds of years, and yet it continues to surprise the researchers. And scientists moving onto example number three of eight Leonardo da Vinci was born in Italy in the fifteenth century, he possessed incredible skills. He was an architect, painter musician. And as culture, he is widely known for his painting. Mona lisa. Do you remember the painting of Mona, Lisa very lady is very a wide scarf covering her head moving onto example? Number four of eight I shot is known for her incredible memory last week. She won a competition by correctly, spelling hundreds of words, Ben Godridge, Tato deli services, bluestar and tighten more than. One twenty five corporates have trusted us for training, their employees. You can definitely trust us for improving your English proficiency skills to know more about English fluency causes log onto a website, WWW dot B M consultants, India dot com example, number five of it as a promotional offer. The pieces offered to us for the price of one initially everyone found it to be incredible. But soon, people realised that they were overcharging for one pizza. Have you experienced this anytime now? Let us understand example, number six feet. The Formula one cars have recorded top speeds off to thirty miles per are eight is an incredible combination of technology and humans kill moving onto example number seven eight one of the members of the picnic group fell. Off and edge at a hill station. He was stuck on a tree about hundred feet below the age a helicopter from the airforce unit was called and it carried out an incredible rescue letters understand, example, number, eight eight most Japanese factories are known to work on zero defect principle. This means that even after producing millions of parts. There is not a single defective piece. This is really an incredible level of accuracy. Don't you agree to David learns the word incredible? Which means unbelievable, unimaginable, extraordinary and spectacular. Now, quickly, framed three sentences with incredible and type in the comments box, the awaiting sure this lesson has head to improve your English were cavalry and speak, fluent English. You can download the script of this episode and all episodes from WWW, dot B, M, English speaking radio dot in stay tuned for new English were cavalry, lessons. We are on a mission to train one crore Indians in English fluency. This was episode number one hundred and fourteen off two hundred billion vocabulary episodes that we have planned kindly note that we will be sharing one vocabulary episode daily at six pm Indian standard time, so me tomorrow at six o'clock with the new word to then take care.