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Hey Conversion Optimists!

08:52 min | 4 months ago

Possibly the Worst Podcast Teaser Ever...

"Looking for the peanut the Water Buffalo. No I I was looking for how to start his lack group in case we are lucky and do get anyone who wants to listen and maybe even interact with that. You are listening to marketing audio experiment. Hey Convergent optimists. This is your show where we help you grow your business and your brand through conversion marketing. So you can make more money and be more profitable with your existing audience. I make and I'm bill together. We've helped our clients increase conversion rates by forty percent increase monthly revenue up the three hundred percent. And now it's time to help you. Increase your convergence and your money as soon as today. That's right so we're really excited today. This is our first episode of the conversion optimist. And we just want to share with you a little bit about why we started this show and what. We're hoping you'll get from it. I don't know why but immediately immediately now just to be just so you know that we've recorded ten episodes already doing this after ten episodes and never before in the past however many days it's been have. I thought this. But the moment meg talked. I thought she was sweaty. Ball involves because you have the the big Dj ear headphones on and you got your microphone and he just reminded me of the. I seemed like What's her name now? I can't remember her name arm. Bicker girl what is her name. I don't remember. Yeah Molly Shannon. One her name was Monica. Something but I don't think that's what it is. I probably don't know that Malaysian definitely Alec Baldwin. Yes anyway back to the point. This is not this really balls show. No we're not talking about sweaty balls at all today. Although we will discuss Eugene Schwartz in future episodes that have to do with boss sweaty and Schwartz the founded so this is the pilot episode of the conversion optimist. And it's just going to be a few minutes so you know what we're about you know where we're coming from. We know what we have to offer and if you should even give us a second. Listen that's right so you can decide whether or not this is the podcast that you wanna spend your time on so as we said introduction. We are the podcast that helps entrepreneurs like you increase conversions and money using conversion marketing with your existing audience. So what that means is you don't have to spend more money on ads if you already have traffic coming to your site if you already have an email list than we're gonNA show you or help you figure out how to get more of those people to buy your product by your service. Whatever it is you're offering how to make more revenue off of what you already have gone on. It's US newsletter. I agree it's a total together. Came Ready. You're listening to marketing audio experiment. Hey Convergent optimists. This is your show where we help you grow your business and your brand through conversion marketing. So you can make more money and be more profitable with your existing audience. I Make An. I'm bill and together. We've helped our clients increase conversion rates by forty percent increase monthly revenue up to three hundred percent. And now it's time to help you. Increase your conversions and your money as soon as today. So on. A normal podcast. What you do is here the introduction. Then they would go and say hi. Welcome listener and thank you for tuning in. We're glad that you're here. This is the first episode. The pilot episode of Our podcast is in absolutely listen to us because we have made people a shit ton of money and now we WANNA make you shit ton of money but only if you listen to our podcast we want you to hear just how good we are and why you should listen to us. And so you're gonNA listen but we don't want to spend too much time talking about ourselves so we'll tell you you make more money if you start doing the things that we're gonNA teach you how to do on our show because we have a lot of experience we've done this for a lot of other people and we to help you and your sweaty balls. Looked WELCOME TO THE CONVERSION OPTIMISTS. The different marketing podcast. We're going to be rude. We're going to be crude sometimes and we may even offend you. Probably we probably already have. But here's what we're about. We're about making you more money. We can say that because we've done it for people we've done it for a lot of people. We've made them a lot of money. So if you're interested in that keep listening by the way for your nostrils on top of the microphone okay. You can't hear the breathing. Oh Are you sure about that? You have your news is bigger. I think what this the fact that this is so hard speaks to the fact. It's why people don't do it but also I think it really kind of highlights or shines a spotlight on the fact that there are when we're talking about principles that we know to be true and we're talking about You know just stuff that we know based on experience. It's easy to talk off the cuff. It's easy to just say it because it's in our head but to talk about ourselves and what we're doing is so hard. There's like a mental block there. Shall we give up on this? No I feel fire in my belly off like this perfect. It's GonNa come out and giving birth right now. We're in the labor pain process so as you already know since you clicked on episode zero that this is the first episode. What's that mean? Well we already told you are names. Check we've already told you what we're about making you more money increasing your conversions using your existing audience so check. We've already told you that. We work with clients. I'll add with our company who cares marketing so check. You've told you are credentials. We've helped him increase conversion rates up to forty percent check and increase monthly revenue of three hundred percent check. Here's what you're going to get out of it. You are gonna make more money Argonne. Increase your conversions if you follow along with what we do now. Are We assholes sometimes but we will do is tell you what works what doesn't and then always come back and tell you test it because you never know here on the conversion optimus. I don't envy you editing process. Though here you get into all that and decide what should stay and what should go so this is episode zero. Is that even possible saying happy? Birthday zero well. You know when I sometimes when I create Documents for my clients and we're like an email Series for them. I'll have email zero. Why I don't know I actually don't know why are we even labeling this zero just because it's not a real episode. It's not a real episode. What's really interesting about? The conversion optimists is that it's a game show too. I wasn't gonNA say anything but you definitely aren't that I wanted to talk to you about you. Know I remind myself of the guy from Polar Express. They're really annoying. Kid likes hot chocolate. I know that kid. Everybody knew that kid growing up. I'm that guy at a bar. One time at O'hare Airport. He wouldn't shut up. He's the know it all. We all know the know it all one nine. So this is the pilot episode of the conversion optimists. You tell everyone your friends your family your pooch your pussycat. This is the best. Podcast getting started in the podcast world. Next Idex Shepherd. Listen to it. Learn make some money. We should definitely make up our morning. We should because those are rockstar. No should have morning meetings this morning. We had one and it was really was so. That's what I meant. Shoot up with your. We sheds I'm done with shooting shooting Oliver my business. I should after this.

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FOF #2724  Love for Sale

Feast of Fun

56:24 min | 1 year ago

FOF #2724 Love for Sale

"Yeah. In the modern age privacy has become the key battleground World War three is thankfully, not yet being fought with nuclear weapons, but with dick pics and headless torsos on Grindr. The US is forcing Kunlun tech. The Chinese owners of grinder to sell their stake in the gay dating app. Because experts suggest the app is a major security risk. Meanwhile, some folks have given up on social media and Danny apps because it's too much. Trouble to deal with all the madness today performance artists and cooking drag Queen vita sometime Amita joins us to take a look at the crazy mixed up world of gay dating apps -rageous and delicious drag performances and her adventures as an HIV educator in Malawi, plus Molly, Shannon out celebrated poet, Emily Dickinson in the new film while nights with Emily. Madonna leaves portu-. Aghil on horseback. And the city of Chicago jobs all charges against Jesse small at and now the FBI is looking into it. I'm I'm Mark villian. And this is feast of fun. Along. Yeah. Just all you gotta do is every time. I say, my you guys, go mom. Okay. I my mind. Your cattle. On my yoke yet. Oh, mama. Mama, mama. Dr to Pepe Dr Japan. Dr CHU PETA to up your memorial care. Your gear on. I'm not. Now, this is an English give the nipple give the nipple give the nipple or the baby won't cry. Isn't that lovely? But that's great. Drag Queen from but as Bill Katamon made on who was so famous such big star of the time that even Bugs Bunny dressed up in drag to pay tribute to her in the cartoon resist hat made a fruits, and it's not only delicious edible. Just like our guest today is the delicious performance artists. Vita Fanta Mita. Thank you for having me. Who is our Judy good friend here, and she loves to cook. And she likes to cross dress for your entertainment, pleasure on social media. And also does weird performances to shares music. What what is it the song that you did however isn't to share it involved chairs the United like when chair that you sit out not share them for thinking? Nothing to do charity said share. Okay. Actual chairs entertainer know that the actual sitting thing device chair. And what did you do? With those chairs I dislike played track of classical music. What is right now? And just like I was doing this performance in this outdoor decks face. So they're just a bunch of bars, tools and chairs, and I just ran back and forth across the room. Like, you know, pushing things aside, and it was also raining and thundering out so how this like kinda creepy. Describing your last wild night of sex that you had. Yeah. I mean, it was more like my loss like summoning of the devil because I am a wedge. Oh, you are what kind of witch. No a sandwich. Where's the meats? Oh, yeah. Which? Eurasian you grew up in Boston. And then you move to DC and DC you worked overseas for the for the core. Yeah. I did. I did allow we right after college. No one really knows them allowing. So it's fun to be like. Oh, yeah. You know, the place Madonna adopted her kid, and you know, as proud volunteer their superhero over there. Hey her day. Hey, her listen to her music God into six. To the great country vita setup. Amita Madonna is going to steal baby. Please don't let it take my baby. Please know that was my job. I how to like teach people how to make sure their kids wouldn't get of -ducted by Madonna. You know, it's hard work with someone how seriously seriously like what is reputation over the Dave Dave really don't like car. So I think she found out about that country because a lot of developing countries like have like a really boozy resort where you'd like pay a lot of money to live like a villager. So like, you know, you'll say no place month and you'll get water from the bore hole carried on your head like cook with your own fires and things like that. Sure. And I think that's how she found out about the country. And then like, you know, built up this whole like, oh, I'm going to kid and do women's empowerment project completely failed. So everyone associated with these like failed development initiatives as you tried. So the school for girls allow is happening. I think it like when Bank. I don't think it exists anymore. Oh, yeah. No. It really didn't work out. I think Riyan is a little bit more success. Yeah. She does something there. I think she wasn't some humanitarian award recently. And there's like some YouTube documentary about Oprah's school, she's Milwaukee to God. I. Alaui seriously. What did you do allow HIV community education? An okay. Yeah. It was really great. I had like studied health seven trash development in college. So is really great to go there. And I'll tell you like, you know, some trans people they're like the trans in their home do makeup because I was kinda missing it. I mean, not to be on like the download with things can get all day. See like. I think it's fourteen up to fourteen years of imprisonment if you're found like in compromising sexual yeah. Yeah. But even if it's a straight people. Yeah. So so in terms of Madonna's school for girls like has the her presence and Malawi in the country Malory's, not celebrated. Not look positively upon just clarify for the listeners. Oprah's Winfrey's leadership academy for girls is in South Africa. Okay. Where the dynamics might be a little bit better since out Africa's more progressive country than probably Malawi is. Yeah, I don't know too much about. I mean, oh, cave time has a really vibrant queer theme. They have quite a few musicians. I think some like gay clubs and Seth where you were nowhere near there. I mean, it's I guess it's hard to say progressive or not aggressive visas. I think you also have to see homophobia south as like a western cultural product that has made it over there with like years of missionary involvement and things like that. But I think they export it. Yeah. Yeah. We export it to them. Yeah. I mean, I think like people have really talk show without and Uganda. Like, I forgot that guy's name. But that crazy even Joe. Yeah. The thing about it is like, you know, we have a very superficial understanding of what life is like in Africa and for all these different countries. And you know, it's sort of like you wouldn't want someone who lives in New York thinking all Americans are the same based on somebody Annella. Bama, texas. Yeah. Yeah. And I would imagine that in Africa would be the same. Yeah. I mean, the crazy thing there too is like being a gay person you can sometimes almost hide in plain sight because it's totally called truly acceptable there for you to like hold hands at another man in public or be a little bit more physically intimate like not kissing pants down. Yeah. You know? Just like no one's gonna look, you know twice. It's it's interesting. How different places in the world have a different view of what's masculine. Yeah. Here in the United States that we're very, hyper masculine. They don't want hugging kissing and you go to India, Pakistan, all these other places. And just like, you know, they might as well be married. Yeah. Seeking like how crazy skill and he is in America. I recently got this pre workout powder. No. I I mean, that's pretty wild too. But like it's the title of it is a salt like the brand I love that pilot. Yeah. It's just like it's me Harney, actually, doesn't it just makes my hands shake. Oh, yeah. Like may say lips all Bernie and Tinguely. But like for me, I just tried to like what what are you doing with this? I'm like, oh, I'm gonna salt this bench press like cutting you just name it take no prisoners. Yeah. Like super strong work. Oh, I don't know. Like everyone familiar really quickly pre-workout power powders. Basically the quivalent of having a Cup of coffee before heading the gym here, bumper Matthew. Yeah. Assault. Another one is called C four. The rule of right? There was called literally no explode as nitrous oxide explosion. Wow. Did you have a boyfriend in Malawi? Yeah. Yeah. I dated this guy called Rodney he did have a name Suraj because they know you haul out there wondering. He was great. He worked for the only al-jahbi nonprofit in Malawi. And like the way they do like advocacy stuff is like very interesting like their approach was like we're going to take this stuff on from a health perspective. So they're like they would do these -cation initiatives toss. Oh workers and be like if you did ni- a man who has sex with men healthcare. Peers of what you think he is. You're breaking the law because Malawi has pledged universal healthcare faults. Dozens we'd be saying his name if he works is the only person the working of the organization, are you putting didn't say, no, no, no, they Israel. No. Well, it is his name Billy. They apply for grants and stuff. So like, and they have a website that houses name on it so information, you're not betraying his safe. Yeah. I mean, I'll marry him. He can come move here. He needs to. Sorry that was like gravely privilege of me. Well, Mark into certain about his state obvious fine. He is his opening in his community. Mark. Yeah. He has three kids as well. And they know and they're fine with that. So yeah. What what was it that made you want to volunteer with the peace corps? The peace corps is sometimes accused of being a colonialist institute. So that was my interest in my undergrad, I said gender studies Afrikaner studies than economics. And I got fascinated with just like the politics of humanitarianism like how is that that we like problem ties stirred in people as being perverse or lacking or like subhuman or whatever. So for me. I was just fascinated to see how those all play. Oh, like, impersonate, rather them from all these anthropology types. Three was the biggest prize that you experience when you got there and lived and workers in HIV prevention worker, I think for me what was surprising was the hierarchies. I saw among local people once who worked for the government and NGOs and how they internalize all these like, western colonialism's and then. Treat it when they would come visit us and our villages. They were really rude to all the people we would work with his they even had this idea of like rural or village people as backwards or not as smart or whatever there's a lot of condescension from inside of their own community. Yeah. Which people who are not as privilege as they were. Yeah. So for me, it was like the very much drink the Kool aid of peace corps as this new colonial. I actually had a blog. They started night. I got there like critiquing like all the things I took issue than the trainings. And they like have crazy Google alerts or something for these things is after two weeks, they found my blog. I got a call from the director. And they were like you said some pretty like offensive things about how we do our training processes, and we're going to have to ask you to take those the blog down and like vaguely throughout in that. They would make me go home if I didn't. Yeah. Out of it. What's the state of aids in the lower because you know, we we've done this podcast. We're now on our fifteenth. I think it was probably on our first or second season, we had a peace corps worker, and she had been I I'm not sure which country was but they had lost like forty percent of their population to HIV and aids. Yeah, I mean, something that's important to know about like public health statistics. Especially in the developing world is like they usually have the capacity to really test everyone. And so a lot of times though, dude has seen a hotspot area, and then create projections for the rest of the country. And so you see so I mean, it could be true not true. But these were deaths. They yeah. Yeah. But then again, you also have to wonder like are they going deep into the Bush getting death records? Like, I not saying this is the way to say that we've completely over exaggerated the HIV crisis in different parts of the globe. But to me, I think it connects in a lot of the way. Is that in our Jennings of like aids ridden countries that we perceive like the sexualities of the people in. And so did your work with peace corps, which is usually it's about a year in the country or. Yeah. So you came back to the United States. Yes. They came back to DC. And in the meantime, as you're going to school you decided to start a video series on Facebook about you doing a cooking show and drag and two on the record. You know knew nothing about us now now on your own Google cooking, drag queens now the it was twenty fourteen. And I had just graduated and we were in upstate New York for the summer, and I was vegan out the time. And I was really annoying about like, I gave is there any other way. No. And I think the joke was like, I'm already gay. I'm already I'm already vegan. Like, what's the other big thing that like someone needs to say in their first time, they meet you, and it's all I should become a drag Queen too. So. Just sort of add to your resume. Yeah. Yeah. Of noxious like some way. And that's where you sort of developed a name for yourself beat that sometime. I meet the. Yeah. So the veto came from. It was a mea vegan cooking show. So we wanted some like silly alliteration with vegan, and I'm Italian and Spanish, so we did vita like life vibrancy. And then Santa Rita was my last name Santamaria. So, you know, little spin off that. And there you go. Oh, your actual last name is somebody. Yeah. I like to say that I was named after the Bill that didn't make it to colonize America because you know. Ground haiti? Well, the Nina not anaemia inter Illustre NTA Maria. Yeah. They're actually named after sex workers. Do really I did not. Yes. La, Nina means the girl. Meantime means the colored one and Maria as you know, the holy Mary. But well, holy it's a. I guess I don't know how well people know about this. But the the Columbus ships were named after sex workers. I mean, I'm carrying the new world when we think about the new world people like what do they call it the new world? It was just the same reason that new and improved on like, soap, it was a branding thing. Because European call in European monarchies and governments wanted people to invest money and start paying their taxes. Right. So they're gonna expand their revenue, and so the idea of a colonizing the the Americas was that's why they call it the new world because it was to make it shiny. No that never known about it before like to them was new but the emphasis and the calling the new world is the same reason. It was the same mindset right marketing. Yeah. It was not necessarily because people were discovering something it was literally marketed as the new and new and improved with new can be a king of your own mention culture, the new world. That's everyone ended up dying like Charles savvy as they're like, oh, this is such fertile land. And none of them knew it to do. They're. Yeah. A lot of the people who are sort of colonizing the new world in that era had no the first clue how to do shit and a lot of people died. Yeah. They're also like the outcasts of England thing too is a lot of them where people who were not really able to make a big and and London then or the UK whatever then moving elsewhere, so Vida in your Facebook live streaming show stuff that you do. Exactly, you're cooking. Making terrible desserts and out now they were made. What would you make? So the the most interesting game aid was I used silken tofu blended with cocoa powder and some sugar. To make like a creamy pie. Felling? Sounds delicious something like that before it's super low calorie high protein and like bitches love lot. So. Yeah. Packets NutraSweet, Honey talk. Yeah. Just melts off your ties. No, actually you. You can make really gorgeous custard with silken tofu. Yeah. You gotta add some eggs or. You use like flax flax water is like the vegan ethical. Yeah. It's no actually does sort of gel kind of jolly. Yeah. A gar as a as a gelling compound. Yeah. It's not too bad. You know? And so. Recently, you've taken a hiatus, and this gets us to our main story today here Johnny scandaleuse from the owner, the playboy owner SCRUFF might be opening up Allah champagne because is number one nemesis. Grinder the scourge of every gay man and the blessing of every game cell phone and gender non conforming. And because you know, some trans people are on these apps to is being forced to be sold. And so a lot of people are like kind of you know, there's a bit of shot in Freud right with towards these hookup. I think you know, we've we actually knew the guy who founded Jolson Cayenne, I think he initially sold forty million. And there was another additional investment from somebody else for like ninety million. And I think the Chinese bought into it to value that like two hundred forty million Chinese gaming company Chinese American roots? But now the. The committee on foreign investment in the United States didn't have time to review the sale. And now they've gone back and said, no you can't own that. No, you don't. So there's you must sell it. And they're saying this ultra who would have to be somebody that he gets approved by the government allows comes. The US or European company may be giant or something? Yeah. Somebody who's not Chinese. Privacy laws. Don't tech the consumer the way other countries privacy laws would there's also this. But there's also to they think it might be. They might be able to use it for spy because you know, you can maybe you can figure out. Oh, this guy is using his grinder here and this location, then he's also using this location. And you're tracking them all my this guy works for the government. So maybe we'll look at his pictures. Maybe we can blackmail him. Now, that's one kind of thing too. But also to we don't know what they're doing with their information. And we don't know how they're manipulating that information back on that end sending them back to us. Maybe they'll attack us with some kind of weird propaganda. We don't know. Well, also, it doesn't hurt that the CEO the company the Chinese gaming company was in the news talking about how he thinks a real marriage or should be between a man and the woman, and and so he had a backpedals people. Like, what are you doing advertise? You wants really for ties IRS too. Advertise on gay dating app and your own CEO's, literally speaking out against gay people and the US right now to like there's a lot going on between China and the United States as far as technology goes, you know, people are racing to build like the world, I g five network and China wants to the United States wants to do the United States doesn't want to use Chinese products. They all of that probably could be like spyware. And so it's all about what's hardware. Yeah. We'll turn into some kind of spied where gather information. We don't know what that information could do because it's all kind of up in there. They have some ideas. But I don't think they really liked to talk about it because they want to give anybody any ideas. And you know, most recently they arrested somebody in in Canada because daughter. Because they're, you know, they're fighting about this technology. So and so it's the daughter not remembering the details on her name or the name of the company one of China's largest, computer hardware manufacturing companies, and where they rested her inner possession was nothing but apple products. And just two people be like what the impact of that is that you're having a huge faux pas in terms of like high ranking Chinese officials getting caught with American technology as opposed to Chinese technology that they're using is is almost a crime. And in terms of even though it's widely understood that all arcs across the world like to use apple products because of the ability to protect privacy, and they're so sleek and pretty well seen as as a as a as a status of stay. They like the the the status of having specific product. And so, you know, not to say that other computer products don't have their own status. Well, but in terms of privacy, these computer companies don't really value that and so if you're an oligarchy up to no good gas. What they're, you know, they're. Wanna Hughes stuff on a platform that they to protect themselves from getting spied on even though they're number one agenda is on the rest of the world. And so are you understand why privacy is a huge commodity? That's being fought for. It's a battleground it is the the Armageddon battle right now the ages, and so as we've seen this past year so much in terms of our politics here in the United States centers those questions around privacy. And the fact that we have a president that we know very little about we don't know what where Trump is making his money. We don't know much about the Muller report. We might now never see the details of the Muller report. We can't even make our own decision. And on this report that we spent twenty five million dollars developing. So it is privacy is the core of all international politics. The core of this battle and grinder. The laws regulars app in the world is at the center of all amazing. And I wanted to like maybe they were targeted specifically because they were gay, and they're like this isn't easy targets United States government. If we just didn't care about people's dick pics. This would be an issue. You know, you can't block meals someone if you don't if you give crap but I'm wondering like if somebody like a high ranking in person security clearance is feeling the pressure by participating on this app to show themselves in compromising photos like our not gonna get any sacks. If you don't show me your gaping hole. Wow. With a couple of dill dozens of Nellie, right? Yeah. If I don't see it. I don't want it. I mean, you could take it to Instagram. That's what I like to do. That's interesting thing. We started saying platforms, especially with young people, snap, Chad. And. Program. You know, this idea of temporary space for? Permanent data, but some some privacy experts saying there's really no privacy at all. And somebody somewhere has access to your stuff. And so, you know, the sneaker net or just literally showing somebody yourself own, but not allow tending them the photos the only way to get it. It gets show them. What you got? Honestly, I into walking up and down the three with my like, you know, how like you'll get a rest of euro, avoid the internet completely just get back to the days of door to door marketing, you know, go to the bar. You have a photo album about here's. Yeah. You can do a few years difference. Go look how much I've grown like. I do remember the early days of internet hookup app culture. I started observing more guys that you were just making flirting with or making friendly conversation at a bar, and they would lean into you and be like soup or your top bottom. And that's a question that I usually would get asked in the past. But it seemed like it was a sign of changing times where people felt brave enough to ask people very personal questions upon meeting each other. And it was not like it was like almost if somebody ask you the first date like, what's your income and social security number. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's weird. All this weird personal stuff being suddenly up for grabs. And so part of me feels very bad for people who are sort of like just developing their sexuality coming to their age, and you're relatively young person. Yeah. A ripe twenty six. Yeah. And so for you, you're like you're coming of age at a time where like privacy and and sexualities battleground again. Yeah, I think like. The period of face. Look, I grew up in was one where like, my parents and aunts and stuff for like, an I know this woman who her bosses saw her drinking too much on Facebook. And then they fired her. So you need to be really careful. And so. Very careful at sixteen. But my mother was an idiot took her maybe to like the tenth time. I was like vomiting in the bathroom for her to realize that I just wasn't developing summit bug every weekend like. Bitch drinker. Talking to people who have workplace policies in terms of sick leave. Now, a lot of work places are assuming you're up to no good. When you take a sick leave policy to treat. Everybody the same. And it's not like you have to justify whether you're having a sick leave or not. But I always feel like I think you get more. You know, get more kindness from your employer when you do tell them, you're. Legitimate sick as opposed to you're like, yeah. I just got drunk. I'm hung over. I don't feel like coming in. And you know. Things like you're basically trying to create a goodwill relationship with your employer, and we need to create space for people to be hung over or not feel like going in mental day off of work or like meditation rooms in offices. Those are those are discussing also what you don't like meditation rooms will corporate environments because they they're always in a room that has no windows somewhere borrowed in the office. And there's always like a really old couch on the seventies. Like may have come seines on it. Like, sure sure most meditation rooms are just masturbation show one hundred percent, and there's like one, you know, framed picture, like, scenic, whatever, I don't know. Make you feel you're outdoors. You have to clear your mind. Yeah. So I feel like the meditation room is the is the solution to like coming to our hangover. They are you serious about this. Because I usually like when I worked in publishing I remember one. Oh worker who low his life to go use the bathroom. And and we all were like he was himself and my dad into in the bathroom and not as desk. That's why I was saying I was like I don't care what he's doing on the bathroom coming out. So yeah, it's not poop or pee. It's going to be Jisr or whatever. But it's like, it's not of our business. You know, it maybe he knew that to get through the work day. Like that makes them a more productive employees. Yeah. Productive employees was one of sales people. They add maybe business JR. He's always getting ready for the next sale. I gotta get this one out. So you're born again virgin. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun gun. Virgin, mama. It's crazy. I mean, all this talk of Greider and scrap. I haven't even used one of those apps and like almost a year. Yeah. I'm a proud Gemini sister. So last season like. A close friend had gathered a few acquaintances for a little party, not a capital T. But there are things going on. And I got a Fisher from a good ole DP really just split me Fisher. Yeah. Nelson for your playing the people DP stands for double penetration. Media misses. They're very large same time. Yeah. And the. Getting devil penetrated the Dick's too thick. But they have to be kinda long, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have the way you space. It our kids eight to that threshold. Yeah. Wide open reading, and you know, I didn't even notice the time. Maybe the time I was like other feels a little weird, but like, you know, your goal drunk or in the moment, you're having fun. And then like the next day. It was like oh my God. What did these men do to me, and it took forever for this thing to heal? So I finally went to doctor and through that found out that I have a digestive autoimmune condition that was prevented from healing because my but so stressed. Oh, I'm like do zanex Serena's like and it just chill your butthole was stressed out. Yeah. That's why. That's why wouldn't that's both. Yeah. Yeah. So. I have this condition all sort of colitis, and that's just like inflammation of your intestine. But for me in particular, I've been blessed. So it focuses right on us. But you know, with lots of different like, I took these like Medicated Douches, and the funny thing I did try it being which doctor I try to make my own. Educated deuce. Yeah. Well, so what could go wrong? No doubt. They it's all natural organic us like. Coconut oil tea, tree oil, lavender oil up your bunghole. Yeah. Yeah. They'll be diluted that quite a bit. Yeah. It was looted, but with a central wiles, you how super careful you should only get once thought say that you're allowed to use them internally because otherwise the FDA has some wiggle room that like you don't have to say there things and they're not. But if it says, not for internal use, you know, that there's some shit in their fears are all like, you know, oil some plants and stuff like you should be able to ingest them. And so you were telling me that you've got both talks butthole. Yeah. Yeah. My first time getting talks wrinkles around this victory. Yeah. I just wanted to really pretty for from. So. Yeah. So the talk shop using a relaxes the muscles. They were like, okay. It's not healing. Let's try this vote hawks and it actually worked like a few weeks later. The Fisher was gone. But then the problem was like, the fishers gone and even doing these dishes and everything so it's not inflamed. But you're still like constantly clench literally in constantly and so right now, you're so clenched right now. Yeah, you have relaxed. I yeah, I've tried meditation. Acupuncture told me that it was twitching. Twitchy. I. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. And so when you were talking, and as it starts twitching again. Yeah. Like, here's me knows. I'm talking about it. So it's your top. Yeah. Name. No now, like my thing is just like, I mean, they're really inter- fraud edge or back alley blowjobs. It's it's the new luck. Literally alley. Oh, yeah. So particular alley I like the one by Berlin has dumpsters. And the lighting also Diesen too. So you can see the dick tube. But no one from the streets. We'll see you are you just meeting the guys on the street and take them back there. You pull him out of the club. You know? It's different. I will say the strangest thing that happened to me one was I was leaving Berlet, and I was in heels, and I was walking friends place and the sky comes up behind me. And he keeps on like. Hey, hey, and then like I've actually turned around. She like what the fuck, and he was kind of Q, and he was like like one of me off in this way. And I was like, you know, like, I'm here for the story. I'll do it. I hope you charge of money because otherwise a lot of girls on that corner. Get mad if you give it away for free. Get money out of that. I'm a pro though. Yeah. Oh that there that I know getting bad you're gonna get sliced the girls slice you. Yeah. Those sharp nails like they're really. Yeah. I mean, there's nothing else to slice the my about his already opened. Nova like it was wild tubers. Like, we he kept on like me Giacomo. He didn't want me to do anything else too. Yeah. But the thing is that like someone kept on coming down an alley. And as soon as someone will come Hugh make us go to different alley, and I'm like in heels and one point I was like, you know, he's not paying me. This isn't like funny. That's why you gotta get paid. Yeah. So like. Shia next time coin Tatas. Don't throw a no shea. You wanna get paid? You do what everyone actually empowered twenty six-year-old gliders like pretty soon. Everyone's going to be getting it in allays was thing. You know? It's like if you start shutting down off the internet people go back to the old fashioned, you know, the street ours. Nothing wrong with that. And so here for that door. Heydays of Chicago's Boyce town in the eighties and even the nineties the grocery store, the main grocery store there used to be a pace that was known for if you were shopping for groceries and eleven o'clock that you were interested in a very wholesome hookup. Oh, you're live on the south side. 'cause you go to the university of Chicago park. I don't know how far you are from Jackson park. That's a big cruising ground. African American men. I mean, I'll I am equal opportunity. Like, I mean right now my mouth is equal opportunity. I can't say. Yeah. I mean develop a micro Pena's feather soon. I think. Thank you. Goes be the only thing about fed. Malawi Madonna was as we always has a relationship with allow, but she also has a relationship with Portugal. She'd moved to Portugal, and I really one hundred percents. Sure why maybe because like all our legal there could she's been filming she's been stuff there. And also, filming things Morocco. So Portugal's just a hop jumping whatever flying away from over there. So she might be leaving. She he's adopted too many kids should Dopp any kids one Portugal. Nap them off the streets. And they still she wanted to film something in this palace there. And they said, yes, you can film on these days. I want to bring a horse into the palace, and they were just like no horses too heavy and the beams are old, and you can't do that. And I guess she got mad and now she's just like you guys begged me to come live here. And now, I'm leaving. According to the news. The reason Madonna is leaving Portugal because she can't ride her horse threw her palace. Just so ungrateful. Is it is it is it good for the horse to be able to Klopp Klopp through marble floors. I can see that being like, you know, a dream job for the horse like you live all your life and a bar and then one day in pain. Listen the horses needed soil. It's it's hard on those police that walk through the streets. They outfitted with special horseshoes to on the pavement. Yeah. It's not. It's not a pleasurable thing for the. Horse your nails right there walking on their fingernails. Clip club. Molly Shannon from Saturday night. Live star of the film soup. Is going gave for pay. She is the star shoes portraying Emily Dickinson, and the new film wildlife and wild nights with Emily the titles reference to Emily Dickinson's short poem while nights while night. And it shows, Molly, Shannon, and actress Dana Milan Melanie as older younger generations of Dickinson carrying on an illicit romance with her female lover through time who was married to her brother. Right. This is idea. Emily was there's a little Spencer who lived alone by herself was a reckless. But it was like no she was like she was out there. She was hoping the pavement trying to get her her her poems published and she was banging this hot chick. She can get familiar with the poems of Emily Dickenson. Yeah. Probably kind of somebody who was celebrated long after her death. So in her time, she never sort of saw the fame and fortune as someone like Elliot, for example, another American I think. Rosters. Yeah. Yeah. But what's really cool? Emily Dickinson's poetry is that it fits beautifully with the meter of the song super Cala fragile stick ex-pilot ocean overly things. So this is just a random poem. It's called taste a liquor. Never. Brewed family Dickinson. I taste liquor. Never. Brewed from tankards scoop in Pearl not all the Frankfurt berries yield such an alcohol and neighboring of Eram I and Deborah she of do really through the endless summer days from end of molten blue. And so, and so I'm really Dickinson's poetry was celebrated and still celebrated because of her imagination our ability to see a world that was far beyond her own experience. And that was what a true artist. Does it creates a world that they don't necessarily see or even people know it exists? But once they discover it bore you glad they did. So I actually think you know, seeing Molly Shannon, finally unleash her. Inner lesbian poet is going to be a lot of fun. It looks like a great film to watch super excited. Definitely going to check it out when it comes to town. And also news a wealthy the Chicago's dropped all charges against Jesse smollet. And now that'd be I is is getting in on the on the cluster fuck while they wanted I guess they wanna understand why the charges were dropped. So the charges were dropped. He's. He gave up he forfeited his bond of ten thousand dollars, and he has to do some kind of community service. Right. He still has maintaining his innocence. He's like story that I told them the very beginning of the story. That's there. I don't know. Exactly what that story was because I haven't really seen it, right? Or we know the Mueller investigation than we know about Justice mullets case. But it certainly, you know, the mayor mayor Rahm Emanuel, the police captain they've all chimed in and being like what the heck is going on here. You know? And some people are really outrage, you really have I want people who are really outrageous to really look at themselves and to think about the Chicago police department, and the brutality that they have done to certain people and ask yourself. Why are you not outraged up why do except police brutality? But this Justice small who may or may not have invented a hate crime. Why are you so outrageous about that mayor Rahm Emanuel is certainly being very loud in this in this on this case? Considering he has been caught covering up the delaying the release of liquid McDonald's murders by the in the hands of Chicago police in order to be reelected as mayor, and he's still continues to run humnan square, which is a legal secret jail where the police dole Accu Honey that's where they put you. If I ever did appear. You've lab if these. Funds like they threw in square on t. Scalding if I were wrong, Emmanuel, I just keep my mouth shut take my Uber money because I think he's got stocking to get. Get outta town Honey because nobody likes you. Nobody likes Rahm Emanuel. And it's a telling to the mayor how disliked he is that both front running mirrow candidates, Lori Lightfoot, and it's not gonna win winkle plus twenty they're both distancing themselves from the existing mayor. They're both like less than roaming. I even less and everyone's like the way they are tarnishing. Each other running attack ads is like, you know, Louis Lightfoot was involved with rum Amanullah, blah, blah, blah. So so part of it is like he's very disliked mayor. He's a very unpopular, and you know, they can investigate you to would you like to get him estimated because that can happen literally dipping my teabag and my team right now. And it's called. Just say, I would if you Kilty of crime, you keep your mouth shut if it's especially if the same crime, which is faking ship still it's going to be really interesting. I see people I will never watch any program that he's ever again inch. It's like, you know after Justice. Exactly. And part of me is just like if he if he did make this up. I'm sure that there's some kind of mental health issue there. And it's just like, you know, a little bit of kindness goes a long way world people like speculating that he made it out to get like a pay raise or something on the show. He listened that. If that's his bona vision does it seem like it's a very logical wait now. But I mean, I don't know for me like what I hate is like anyone who is going to discredit. You know, the many LGBTQ people out there who are survivors and victims of all. Yeah. I hope it doesn't make anyone skeptical of anyone else with us. And he is famous, you know, but there's also another case that happened in. Michigan Jackson, Mississippi are Jackson Michigan. There was an LGBT activist who burn down their house in a hate crime allow you know, they burnt down themselves. We're caught five of their pets died, you know, but because we're not a famous celebrity those there's not the outrage over that. You know, that's what I'm more outrage that you murder your own pets for that kind of like Munchhausen's sympathize sympathy or something I don't know for those out there for millions with these kind of state of mines and the armchair psychologist. What does the term called when you fake crime in order to get sympathy for it? Somebody was actually telling me on Twitter, that's not Munchausen. But there is a new show on Hulu about Mancha houses. It's a really fascinating disease because it's like, it's the parent lunch. Charles is year. Faking illness dinner to get sympathy. Right. Yeah. And munchausen. My proxy is you're thinking child's illness. Or you're making your kid intentionally sick? To get sympathy for yourself my poor kids. So. So you know, when young people use the term gas lighting that you're driven. They usually saying because you're like you're really trying to say you're two faced that. You're not saying what you really mean. One. Well, I'm not saying used Pacific, but I do notice a lot of young people on social media use the term guests lighting incorrectly. When they're really wanted to say insincere or manipulative gas lining is intentionally driving someone else mad by pretending. There's not a problem that's happening. Which is what the Republican party does. And certainly not the case. Speaking of going insane. I was going inserting earlier today, and I have to tell you the story because you know, in terms of why we do this podcast and who inspires us. There's there's a there's a there's a pantheon of gods out there that inspire us to do this podcast and surly like someone like rupaul is certainly one among them earth a kit, the great, Carl Sagan and mister Rogers inspires me. And Mark to be our best to to create spaces where people can talk about their feelings. Then tell their stories and be heard and understood I saw hope you Vida feel like a little bit. You know heard and understood I think when I forgot to mention earlier is I'm really in the market right now for man with like fingers that are five to six inches long. This very particular Muslim enough to be massaged and my fingers are just too short. So using the podcast your podcast appear as as a way to as a Craigslist ad base. Yeah. It's for medical purposes. Yeah. The doctors just prescribe that too late for signing finger helping hand just gonna care it that dildo. I just think person's touch would really the healing process absence bath, the I do those often, they're amazing. So for since the documentary won't you be my neighbor on the life of Mr. Rogers and his legacy came out, Mark Nye and our friends in media. We have a couple. Of close friends went to see it together. And we were all just really moved, and touch, and it was a really interesting to me, how some of my friends in journalism or entertainment also share that common bond with me, and Mark how we were influenced and inspired by the great, Mr. Rogers and real treat to discover that officer Clemens Francois Scarborough Clemens in real life is openly gay unapologetically sassy gay black man diva called himself diva man, and we just fell in love with Francois and the documentary, and so I quickly on the internet and friend requested him on Facebook, not expecting anything of it and responded and through the past year, I've sort of grown and developed a little bit of a friendship online with Francois Scarborough Clemens, and I've been begging him, please come on a podcast dying. Talk about your life with you because I just feel like the duck vintages can scratch surface those so much more to tell so much. So we finally got to talk to France while today, and Mark, and I were just like we got the time wrong. We got the time zone confused, and we're just in a hurry. And we started doing the podcast, and we had prince wants us to church at the end of the podcast, Mark. And I were just like teary eye, and so moved by his story, and I can't wait to show that with you guys, and it would be up by now, however in the process of setting up, the new computer, some of our whole hardware is malfunctioning and we've developed the all the audio has a little. Like spark like a ticket. And so I was just like literally so depressed. Imagine if like, the the one the interview of your lifetime that you wanted to get and it just went horribly wrong. And especially afterwards that we had like had such an amazing conversation with them. So I called a couple of friends of mine who are in audio engineering and the process of looking at that to see what they can do if you guys can afford to make donation to help cover our costs of addressing this technical issue, which comes and goes because the audio introverts that we're currently using to allow us to replace that police go to go fund me dot com slash feast, fund, computer and make a one time donation because it is an extraordinary interview that I'm dying to get to you guys. And I hope that one way or another. We're going to get it to you guys. I just wanted to get the best audio quality possible for you guys in for prosperity sake. Therapies and to me. I just to say that it was great for me to be able to do the frustrated angry. It's to Rogers routine like why people pay attention. I said it's like. Kick out of that. That was good because I imagine that Mr. Rogers a little bit more sassy a little bit more down to earth than he led on television handsome. 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Ep. - 241 - MARLO HAMPTON FROM REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW JERSEY MEDIUM JONATHAN MARK

Reality Life with Kate Casey

53:33 min | 6 months ago

Ep. - 241 - MARLO HAMPTON FROM REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW JERSEY MEDIUM JONATHAN MARK

"Welcome back to another episode of Reality Life. Casey hoped to hit a great weekend. You Watch Tiger King. Who Will you listen to my last episode which I thought doozy lots of behind the scenes info this week? I've got a great episode. I got a chance to talk to Marlo Hampton from real housewives of Atlanta. Now marlow is sort of on and off the show. She could've appears disappears. He's got this huge personality. I've been dying to talk to her for a long time and fortunately I got a chance to this week and I have to say. I thought that she would come on the show and had this like bold brass personality it turns out. She's actually really sweet and I thought she had a really interesting life story and her connection to foster care is really quite interesting so I was really surprised. She is quite sweet and I I think that sometimes you know you hit the right on the mark with these reality stars were if you saw them on the street. They're exactly who they are. I think that Ramona singer probably at a Deli would be the same person she is on TV. But I've gotta say Marla Hampton Pretty Sweet. So I'm excited for you to hear that and then I had this incredible reading with Jonathan Mark. He is a twenty eight year old guy from Long Island and he reached out to me and we kinda struck up this really great friendship so I thought it'd be kind of fun for him to watch a show called. Who Do you think you are on? Tlc is where celebrities. Kind of truck their genealogy. They've got this incredible staff of researchers. Take someone's family history and do a deep dive like none other. And they get a chance to travel all over the world and kind of explore the villages. Their relatives lived and sometimes even get to meet some of their relatives so the episode that I had him watch featured Molly Shannon. Who's one of my all time? Heroes and she had this very sad story that known too much about. She was a car accident when she was. I think about four years old with her family and her mother and her little sister. Katie died in the accident. And it's just heartbreaking. She started talking about it and so it was kind of Nice for her to go back to Ireland and to meet her relatives and for them to share stories about her and what they had heard you know from America about her new life. I was thank God. What would they find if they trucks my family down? You know like you can do. Actually that's probably a great idea during this isolation you can do great search for your family on one of these like ancestry sites ancestry. Really is the best if you want to do research and you want to find where relatives lived. Look up their marriage records juicy stuff look there if you want to find out if you were the product of a one night stand definitely do twenty three and me. I have a friend who pursued information about her birth parents for years and then twenty three and me came in and like got all the Info got all the Info so she found out finally who both the Perth parents are. And you know what I haven't actually crazy story in my family from twenty three and me. I have a cousin that was placed for adoption years and years ago and I met her when I was in college. And let's just say I encourage true to twenty three and me test and the information that my relatives shared was not in accordance to the results of twenty three and meet task too. So yeah a lot of stuff going on there. I think I actually talk about my Patriot episode. You can go back and listen to it. But that's a great show to watch. Who Do you think you are and definitely called Jonathan? I did a reading with him and he connected with my friend from college and it was. It was great so so great. One of the things that I've been watching is two things. One is a documentary on Netflix. It's called the account of Auschwitz. So in two thousand fifteen ninety four year old former German. Ss officer Oskar. Groening nickname. The accountable Schwartz went on trial in his home country charged with complicity in the murder of three hundred thousand Jews. It out Schwartz. In one thousand nine forty four so as trial made headlines around the world as a frail old man took the stand to face this former victims so it kind of poses. This question as it goes through the history should somebody who's ninety four years old stand trial. Should he go to prison? Should he be penalized for things that he did earlier in his life? And for one side of the argument is will. He was born into this nationalist family sort of brainwashed and he's had this exemplary life since then while others who are obviously victim said look at his body language. He has zero regrets. And he has to be held accountable. Just an interesting documentary to watch. I highly recommend it. It's on Netflix. And then the thing is. I love a good sports documentary. I love agreed. Sports documentaries so this one is called. Don't take me home it's Amazon the UK site and you can rent it. It's called don't take me home again. It's the story of the Welsh international football teams rise through the FI FA world rankings and onto their first international tournament for fifty eight years so the accents with people like my friend Catherine Miller from college. She is so weird about accents and by the way she's from New Jersey and has an ass on the beginning and the end of every word in college. She talked like this. So you guys you think since we since goes but but she refuses to watch a movie where there's an accent she's like a real pain in the ass that way like this would not be up her alley if you can withstand the accents which I can because these are my I mean I may be born in America but of course my parents or European so watch. Don't take me home. It is a great sports story. It's a great. It gives you that feeling of like weaken we can achieve success. You know it's like the same feeling when I watched the documentary on. Hbo About The Americans. The women's soccer team who won and Brandy chastain rips her shirt off. It's like that kind of feeling like a rudy cousin. The movie like one of those kind of stories so again. Don't take me home on Amazon. The account of Auschwitz on that flex and in this episode again. We're GONNA have Marlo Hampton from real housewives of Atlanta and medium Jonathan Mark. So here we go. Marlo. Hampton is a huge star out of real housewives of Atlanta. I feel like we don't know much about her so I was so excited to get a chance to talk to her marlow. Welcome to the show. a hurry you and. I'm so glad to be on this show he q. So tell me a little bit about you. I know that you are from Saint Petersburg Florida so tell me a little bit about your your life Marley about my life. Oh my gosh kids so much detail. the main just it. I was raised by my biological mother until the age of ten Due to substance abuse in my mother's personal issues I was in different foster homes and that was county. And that's how I ended up in Saint Petersburg Florida 'cause I was born in clearwater and from Saint Petersburg. I went to college or University of Florida. I graduated from there. I had my ups and downs. I'm in the NAYS AND FOSTER FAMILY. My foster home and that's my lovely grandmother who just passed a couple of weeks ago. Ari Homes and really is just as much as you know. You can know from my upbringing until I moved to Atlanta and now you have more love for Atlanta here and I know that you quite a bit with foster family charities. What do you think has been the takeaway from that experience? The takeaway from the experiences comes naturally to mutate The be honest with you really I mean ditch me being raised in five different foster homes. It's just my job. It's my duty to do something that I know. Well I know how it feels not to feel I know how it feels the Cheetah home or not to feel like. It's just you know you're truly love. This is the place that you can call and now to this day at forty three forty. Four home is really important to me like a place where you can call home. People truly love you. It means a lot to me so I can't I couldn't do anything but give back from our girls in foster care. Glam HIM THEM UP LESSON. No things sit there. They would probably never have experienced a belligerent. For me who were some of those people that during the your childhood just really stood out as people that left an indelible impression Two for Sir and unfortunately both have went on to heaven with God my Godmother Music Greens. I lost her last year. She's one of my best friend and she took me on this. I was family when I was in my fourth foster home. I will walk back and forth home school. Her daughter who Now difference with and to just was amazing. Choose a person it was like. Your door's open. My door's open for you all the time. If my best friend and I was getting argument talk I still go to that house and Joel is open for me so she really showed me the true definition of what love and now the person like I mentioned earlier would be my grandmother. Reo sewage this. I may just as I mean they. Both were praised women strong women and they were just amazed. I mean there were. I can't even worse. Not Striving to London and leave my biological mother out and so much of her as well but just due to the issues that she had in but I let that ten to the women. I lifted to who I learned from those two and so you graduate from school. What was your dream? What had you always WANNA pursue to be honest with you? I remember that I with my mother and I was in Saint Petersburg No. This is when we lived in safety harbor. I just always remember growing up saying I went to a talk. Talk show host or newsroom. For this I will play around with my friend. My name is Marla. I'M GONNA talk show host. But that's just not always. How did you end up in Atlanta and eventually into the world of REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ATLANTA? How did that happen as I mentioned earlier? You know I grew up in foster care in Saint Petersburg Florida so when I got into when I was in my Latch foster on my This is right before this phone. I but it's supposed to cowboys running with their own crowd thinking I knew everything you know. How like when you went you had so much turmoil your life. You're angry spill Keeton. Everyone owes me something that you're just not gonNA under Dan and you don't know what you're talking about you haven't been there so. I kind of had that attitude for a couple of years and he got me in trouble and you got to do with dating eleven their own guy. I'm like you know what your life together you know like. Just sit down. Look yourself in the mirror. Stop making excuses and it starts with the person in the mirror so my girlfriend with here. I mean this Kia K A. She was going through a car here and she's like marvel. You should move him like oh I just need to start a refresh. But I just don't know and I was in trouble relationship and I really hit rock bottom. You know. He's just like him tight. I gotTa make a change and I did. I came to Atlanta. I transferred from the departments where I was working in Tampa. At the time I was working in Tampa cater place called Herald pinner door so when I came to Atlanta this over like on the south side and Candler road and it reminded me so much at home because there's Keller Road South side I'm like I wanna get to this place called bucket. Everyone keeps talking about until Lenox Mall doing. I got some lake smaller when I worked at a place called already be. Do you remember the worse of course though I start? Rnd elegant. But can't I was young? Beautiful girls come in dressed nights. I'm like oh I want my own store so I started off bartending and waitressing. I remember this day careers. No other I went to bed. Axe can goes and I printed up some carts and said I was a stylish because I was always dress nice no matter if it was from K. Mart good-will I just had a unique style and people always compliment so I was like. Hey I'm going to Miss Dallas. I'm pass out cards and I ended up getting Salads jazzy they young job this is like you know ten years ago when they were with music so it was just it took off and then. I my girlfriend and I opened my own. Rucci over at permit them all and I was at work one day at the mall. Recruited came in as a matter of fact. The lady who came and recruit meeting with princess she came in it was like. Are you marlowe everyone talks about you so fashion forward and it just started from my boutique? And what's crazy? A lot of people don't know real Atlanta takes at my grew teak girl candy meany. They never showed that scene but they actually at my cheek WanNa so season three whenever like candy game off and that kind of next year and HDL Atlanta and so of the cast. Are you closest too needy? Oh absolutely but I'm the closes lecture. I've know her from day. One like I said they came into my store Film there and we just connected in style or back then for an event and absolutely closer of all. The girls see is never been totally full-time is that because being a full time cast member would require you to totally open up your life and I I get this feeling that there's a part of you that would like to remain a little bit private still no. I don't know why you in a couple of other people get that filling I'm an open book I'm GonNa Aquarius. Which is as you get with you when you're a reality TV show. You can't hide nothing cake. You can't hide anything you have to live your truth so It's just what you see is this you get off of the contract at one point. It didn't work. I wasn't Road Stanton. That didn't work out for me. I wasn't ready for that but it was too much A stubborn country liberal coming from Saint. Pete I'm a group with this. You know it was just too much for me and then I watch this show and I you know learn more about. I'm like okay. Let me try. This was dating a guy by the name of Charles Grant at the time and he was like okay. Let's try and I came on my first season Charles Grant. So what was it like to start filming? Did it feel like it seemed natural order to take you a while to get used to it because as you mentioned being on a show you totally have to open up life? So that opens other people to making judgments about you or or or trying to pick away at your life people that you dated or decisions that you've made. Was that hard for you to come to terms with to be honest at the time I was like a kid in Kansas. Throw a fun. I was dating the new guy I was. I've always came on the marlow. This you see today now. My Guard suggests down and since. I've got my nephews. You just you feel more sauce. Decided me yeah you know? You seem to macy's now before coming from hoods coming from five different foster homes coming from daddy issue. I was angry. I was mad at this point it so I was like. I'm GONNA hurt for a meal. You're not GonNa get to me right so no then illicit but you see what you get. I just I just went and this is just GonNa be fun and Roy did. I not know ooh okay. So you can really mean GonNa go below the belt. Have you ever thought a sense of connection at all to someone like Kenya? Who's also struggled with issues of abandonment? Does that at at I make you sort of connect with her or do you think that's part of the reason? Maybe you butt heads. Is that no. I think we head because we're both Aquarius and Can Use Air Evil? She's you know how they always say hurt. People hurt people so Are Stories you think that we would have been super close. 'cause we definitely have a relatable background but no matter what we try to find things she used me and you know. Ca- trade and even knee and I fell out of a tend. Be My friend but really wasn't King was just someone I don't care to get to know I don't wish bad. I wish nothing but the desk but She's just a lot going on herself and best thing for her professional. Jesus professional health. Jesus Sir yes you need professional help. I can't out definitely only to help our hiking. She's look above my you know so the other women who do you. Who Do you have to have a great friendship with on and off the show to be honest with you? This is my first season really getting to know all the girls and having a really close relationship with all of them I. This is the first season force in. I really connected changes nuance she. Fetzer freaking blasts. You know that team is happy. Go lucky though I would have to say NI NI POOREST. Candy you know. Those are the top three for sure in Tanzania and then it goes to India and never be. Can you tell me something? About each person that we would surprised to now. Ninian super-sensitive and submissive. Greg is definitely the Boston that relationship. Oh okay Porsche. is a frequent push. It is just good old country girl just love family and a good old time can be. She's really an amazing mom. As I got to know candy this season I actually was able to see her hands on with a and that really sets the daughter had an affinity. Mcm and just actually really her with our kids bond and play and my nephews. We have a play date and it was just amazing. Because you really don't get to see that and you get to talk about business. You know being the provider actually she her hug and kissed and touched. That was really amazing. So she's definitely a great mom of that. So that makes you beat yourself up a lot of time with the kid. She's with the kids. It's just amazing to see that. What about either either something about eva? That she does she go to see Who what she's really thinking you don't get to To me. She thinks before Syria had since she. You know like me should boom. This is Michigan cake. I probably think sometime and I don't even a lot of either that you don't get to see our say Tania can. It's just fun but you see I would say that you get the team there. He is kind of like more. I mean she's just but what she is. What you get out her until you really really really just aren't they here. Swear Cynthia Scindia Citizen that the ones who I feel that definitely with Eva. You don't really see everything that she's thinking how she feels you. Don't get to hear it because since he would get you also so this entire season is there's been a lot of fighting with Kenya. Obviously she was going through a quite difficult separation. Is there anything that we didn't get to see at that Charity Event and of course the trip to Greece. That you wish that the that would have been included in footage Roy Moore into see. Besides she hurt evil. She means her. Divorce is awful. I mean not the best at. That's not one of my favorite people so I probably have too much to say. Did you look back at the episode with the Charity Event and have any regrets? The only thing that said it needs are seeing that. We're not seeing other girls. I thought at first and I didn't like this. She was trying to sit in back. I'm like hey might told me that. He was co host and he had already called me earlier to mentor my nephews so I just wanted my nephews to take part in this event and see other men that colored them doing amazing. Thanks so I wanted them to get the full experience of this event. So tell me a little bit about how your life is changed now that you have been basically the caretaker for your nephews how how has had thank students for you or mark. God How has that changed for me? It's things to where it's no more just about Marlowe it's about someone else you know. Usually I'm like. Hey let's pop up go here. Let's do this on. It's actually Hungry Fiqh my stomach and she hit me. I have a PTA meeting with the school or the other day. I had to get on one of the teachers and Talk. About High School. And William microphones filming. So it's changed. It's but it's a good change. It's a change to where I never knew I was this strong. I never knew I was really the superwoman. How OTHER WOMEN MOTHERS? Murray you all now because being a full-time Ninety it's no joke. So it's just the nearest to half for mothers because so many mothers you got to make it look so easy and it's ninety but I wouldn't change it for anything in the world because I feel God has me what I'm supposed to be right now and with the growth here it's shown more of an more affectionate side. I give hugs and kisses. Now they're so affectionate. I cry more. How can I find myself looking at them? Like listen to the voice corrupt in the world that we're in today and just amazing you know it's not about you anymore. To tell the truth do you have to sometimes soccer or something to hey? I need some meat. Timers himself curious. How does that complicate your love life at all? Having this awesome responsibility now well you know what I knew the Lord Right. I skate so when I get a love life. I'm single and what it may add a little more complication. Because I'm already a tough cookie. Is You know for dating anyway. My standards so now with two young men looking at me my seniors are super super duper. Hi I'm not bringing a man any man around my two young kings. You'RE GONNA really have to be a kink suits you save at a lot that you very high standards. What do you think is the most important? What is the most important thing for you to find an partner respect respecting those are my two after? Not what you do kate. It's how you do. You're going to have to respect me. I'M GONNA be able to. Hbo Distress You and Vice Versa. So those are just the main two things and I want someone who I could literally be friends with insist on with me. Being raised with Mike Foster Ari. My grandfather was a man. You hear me. He respected my grandmother. Who was that provider has to be provided as well? I feel he has to respect me here so love me know how to talk to me. I'm a strong woman and I'm really old fashioned becomes today and that's what's crazy so nowadays to me. The guys there were about looking in the mirror what they look like. They're not getting their car doors for you because I was women. Just let them get away with anything. Though I just feel not gonNA work for me. I would think that being on a TV show like that. We're it's so popular that there are a barrage of men that are handling their way into your your perfect absolutely I just as you posted. Swimsuit or something sexy. They are but that doesn't that makes me know who live out. That makes me more fridge. Flag more cautious. Yeah they're gonNA show. I like when I go out on. I'm hanging with Katie. And she introduced me to France and they don't know that I'm on a TV show. I want you to like Marlowe for me being on the TV show really is one of the downfall. That might dating one of the reasons why. I'm very cautious in dating. Yeah but some people have said that you dated a Ted. Turner is not a address that Wendy Williams so they can look at that interview on there. I'm so he said he had a lot of things. I wouldn't I wouldn't blame you. I think he's cute. Are you open to the idea of a mother yourself? I've always been open to that. I will become a mother myself. But that hasn't been with guys had for me so I feel that if that's a part of my story I would be but until then I was just remained my more low. Well what would you like people to know about the fostering system? The fact that you were a foster child is your message. All the more important What do I need people to know that? There's without millions of children out there that need homes to come to so even if you don't become a foster parent just getting involved with the foster child Helping a foster child understanding Each and every one of us have a different background different story and this station. This is if you are if you even our foster home that one of the things that always bothered me was my fourth foster home. She had chosen before I came there and she had a daughter because her dog. She didn't want her to be alone and once I got there. Her daughter felt that I was taking her mom away from her because she told me I had to leave. And that's how I ended up being with her mother. Which is my foster grandparent. Ari Home so I my thing is. Let it south still. It's they're homeless will. I don't care if you're a south. They're taking their mom. You know that you're doing a good job. You know that this is not endangering yourself. Let that child be raised shirts out and don't become positive here and you can't treat that house if this show-me yeah okay so are we still mean the next season yet or do you have a little bit of a break. We're on break now. We haven't started yet. We have been the reunion yet. Are you excited for the reunion? Are you feeling a little anxious about it? Are you brief history? The ethic I would think. So what's the one last thing that you want people to know about you? I don't follow the crowd and I want people know is Kinda test and sometimes you'll walk alone when you just go by what you believe in and follow your dreams and that requires some time of walking along and that's okay because I'm around people. I see every day who are not authentic the world somewhere else. Social media makes someone else. What are you doing outside of the show that you love everybody to know up outside of the show Huge with my nonprofit called Glamour which works with young girls in foster care If they go on my page little Hampton they'll see repented WNBA game. We have huge events for Christmas. And we've been to Canuto piano because the five star meals. I try and introduce goes into clean that I never was introduced into their age so I had a banker credit score was I had someone come from Neiman. Marcus and be the boss is and how important undergarments are just. That's one thing especially in my heart by nonprofit grandma enough so they can go on my instagram tomorrow. Hinton DOT COM click on that they can purchase a rig which so a new wig line called her. That'll recently launched. They can go on there and purchase. One of my group's rigs are amazing. Son Alaska two year and just right on instagram. They always with all Jonathan. Welcome to the show. Hi How are you? What is it like to watch shows like this where someone is tracing their family? History is actually very cool for me. Only because like I read people and I bring relatives that they've heard of and that they don't really have a. I guess like proper information to kind of truly validates stuff I have. It's cool to see like anyone whether it's a celebrity or not kind of go through what she went through by going to her like homeland island to get all these facts about. You know her family. Just see it actually happening like really happening. Live in front of your face versus me telling you so Molly Shannon headed to Ireland in search of her mother's unknown family tree. Her desperate ancestors were forced to choose between their faith and survival there was a family legacy of bravery and she got to meet her. Irish cousins for the first time. What struck me most about this episode. Is it in the beginning of the episode? Modeling talks about a tragedy that our family experiences a child. She lost her mother and her younger sister. Katie and a car accident and so her father raised she and her sister on his own. I dislike it was so hard to watch that part and wash molly cry and to realize this really funny actress. Has This really interesting backstory. I know that she was somebody that you weren't that familiar with before. What was it like to watch that scene play out? Yes so like like you said it. Wasn't that familiar with her? Only because I think of my age I think the thing that struck me the most is like yes. People lose people in automobile accidents. You know but she was involved in it like she witnessed at happened. She was in there and she went to the hospital from it. And that's what broke. My heart is that she literally had a witness and go through the accident that her sister and mom did not make it out of the. Nice thing about the episode. Is that what she went back to Ireland and she met all of these cousins. She learned stories about our mother. She was like she was keeping her mom's memory alive one of the things that cracks me up about shows like this as I've watched so many of them. I feel like some of these celebrities. Go on the genealogy trail so they do this episode and then they go to the roots episode. But I feel like it's similar to ones about meet mediums. Like I'll see somebody on the Tyler Henry. Show and then I see them. Go to Theresa. Caputo does seem like that to like once you go to one. Tv medium. That they all go to they. They hit all of them. Yes it definitely seems that way. Allow my clients That you know are on TV or whatever. They all talk the old. Tell me. They've seen tyler they've tried see theresa or they've Seen Theresa so that is very true. It's very true. Actually the thing that cracks me up about the show is that I've watched enough episodes that some people have incredible experiences. Like Courtney Cox goes back to England and finds out that she's a relative of William the conqueror you've had like a cakewalk life and all your relatives are from British nobility okay great and then you have somebody that will go back to their homeland and find out their parents or their relatives. Were criminals so you. Kinda get the short end of the stick. Sometimes my father is convinced. He's Super Irish like he speaks with an Irish brogue. Even though he grew up in Philadelphia I think he would be devastated if I was on one of these shows to find out that maybe his family's from like Croatia. I mean twenty. Three and me has basically proven that. We're Irish English but I do feel some people. That's part of their own narrative like Super Sicilian like imagine snooky went back and dinner geology and found out that she was actually from like Ireland. Spain or something yeah. I think it'd be heartbroken. I think their whole stick would be gone at that point once like leaked or came out but yeah. I think it'd be hard for okay when you're kind of tapping into someone's relative. That's passed away. If somebody was a relative in the past two they come back in another relationship I guess every energy spirit angel where people call like people crossed over everyone is so different and they hold their personality like still so if someone let's passed away very young and they were very active and really wanted to come back they typically will come back like what I tell. People is when they come back they stay within like a core three hundred of like your life now. People seem to think that's a lot but if think about like I'm twenty eight so you think about three hundred people that I've came across. That's nothing typically. What happens is like if I'm using this example. My mom passed away then. I passed away like I could be my mom's dad and she could be my daughter or I could be her mom and she can be my son so typically like the energy if they're very active and they're very like out there and they really want they'll typically come back very quickly but like other energies. Typically I would say mostly they like to wait for their core family to all crossover before they all go back together like separately like at the same time. Oh okay so sometimes if you meet somebody and you get this familiar feeling. It's because they may have been like your uncle on a past life would be that you're close with so it wouldn't be something that you kind of like vibe with when or like someone that you meet like once or few times and you like. I really liked this person. And they have such great like pure energy. It would be like that it would be like someone who's typically involved in your life or had a major impact in your life Okay so you and I were not siblings in the past life. I don't think so. We were definitely friends but yeah we're definitely friends but yeah a lot of people ask me because my my mom's sister passed away like when I was about four months old. And she's still there because she's waiting for my mom because they were best friends like their entire lives like best best best friends. So she's not leaving an obviously. I can't read my own family as much because I know now so much about them from me reading my family and from hearing stories and stuff but when I speak to people that you know that can read that are out there that people know about pretty much you you get the same answer but like in different ways so it could buy and leading for my mom even decided to even do anything and do we plan our lives before we answer those life. See like that's that's interesting because when I read people and people that passed away very young or whatever you WANNA call it like like whatever young is someone Yeah it seems like when they pass away. It was kind of Like date they always say that they were meant to be here for long so they say that to me that kind of indicates that it was maybe like predestined. Yeah yeah because they all like. They'll say in very different ways and in different points but the overarching message. Sometimes it's like they weren't meant to be here for long they're meant to be here in your life for X. amount of time for this reasons and then like in like that and when they come across they seem happy like does anybody come back and they say this place is a real shithole and like I should like on the other side like this S. pissed on Ben and so much more fun when I was alive I honestly it really depends on the person so I've had people come through. I wouldn't say they're mad. They were mostly disappointed that they were there. And there weren't on earth like or physically here but I haven't really had anyone come through like God. This place sucks like I need a comeback like asap. But I've I have had energies be very disappointed. That that they you know Were there alive alive these energies that come through like that are typically people that are murdered or Okay or people that I've had people were walking on the street and a crane drops and kills them. Like you know like stuff like that like where. It wasn't their fault at all and they. They should still be here. Like I have like like those people when they come through our currency like disappointed but they're happy like their content but they would rather be here with us all right. Well it's crazy. It's obviously a very chaotic time. Everyone has the sense of panic and anxiety in the world right now. I know that you're doing a lot. More readings because people feel very unsettled. What are the messages that you get from people's loved ones in relation to this pandemic? Is there an overarching message that you get that? This is going to pass like quickly but within this quick time. It's going to be a huge. Like Bang is the word I WANNA use like. It's GonNa be a huge bang and with that being said is like I said this before like this week. Come like this week now and last week and next week halfway are going to be like the worst time. I can be the absolute worst time. And you're going to see it slowly. Go back to normal life after that like slowly go back around like the end of April or early May but what they keep saying is just basically that like that this is GonNa be over before we know it but within this time like basically stay within your four walls like stay within like like this kind of stay away from people but it's it's going to be very big impactful it's GonNa hit us with a huge bank quickly but then it's going to subside slowly. You get a sense that it's GonNa come back later or that it's just gone. It's GONNA come back. Yeah it's definitely going to come back but it's going to be way more Kind of like you know. We're going to be ready for it and we're going to. It's not GONNA BE. How how it is like this so like when this virus comes back it's GonNa be like getting a flu. Shot for different strain. Does what it's going to be like. Is there a message also with that about the reason for it? Is there a reason for all of this? What I have been noticing when I have been reading people on it is that I guess us as people needed to like Carnegie reminded that simple things is the best things for us I guess and I guess at a certain point. We all kind of got very greedy and also too. I guess what I you know. I had a dream about was the kept putting the earth around me saying Earth needed. A is what I kept saying like hearing and I. I'm assuming that like the pollution and stuff I have to imagine is getting a little bit better because we're all not doing anything. So that's why I'm assuming that they meant by that. But there I kept hearing the Earth Breather. How can people reach you if they want to get a reading? Yes so you go to my website. It's Johnson Mark Dot net. A lot of my clients go to my instagram for some reason enough Jonathan Mark Medium. When you're doing readings do you ever get a sense? That people that come to you with questions about their their relatives that they found out through a twenty three and me test that perhaps that they were because of a one night stand or they have the. Do you ever get a sense from people that you're reading that if pursued information on their ancestry and then through the process of come across information that was unexpected are actually those on the other side upset about it are. They relieved that the truth is out. Yes it has happened and I guess the best way to put it is when you pass away. I Guess Hindsight's twenty twenty reflect and everything so no. They're not upset about it. It's more of a validating explanation for for them. So it's another way for me to bow like really validates something that no one would know because I literally I did this group reading and About ten people and they all claimed that they were extremely close friends. 'cause I always start off by saying like you know really personal things are gonNA come up quickly. It's not gonNA be like I need to build up build up. They come out very quickly. So if you don't want people to know like let me know because I don't WanNa embarrass you. Whatever so. I went to this one woman and I turned to her and it's funny about Ireland because I turned her and I go. I'm so sorry but it looks like your daughter was murdered in Ireland. And she's like what no now go. Yeah like I did the Irish flag and your daughter's coming through saying she was murdered there and she goes no no no no and she emails me like a couple of months later saying that she was murdered in Ireland. They just found out. Oh God so like her door but but like this was an ongoing case for about five years so like this wasn't like a recent thing like this was on and when she was saying no to me she truly felt that her daughter which still alive she just was yet that she just wasn't answering or she wasn't like like she started a whole new life and wanted to leave everything behind. And I guess the stuff that I validated with and was explaining about everything about that trip with her because I spent a little bit more time with her than the other people and she reached out and she like you know. I'll never forget it because this is like when I first started doing greetings and stuff like I really was not a fan of them and people kept requesting so I did it and that was one of my first ones and stuck with me because she said no no no to me than a couple of months later I get this long email like a long long email and she was saying because of what you said she basically a lot of people with that stuff will pick what I said and bring it back to the police and then they use it to help them only but she ever. Do you ever get somebody who didn't know that? They didn't know their parents. And so yes when they across the reading just just the parent never got a chance to meet them. Let's say their mother and father had a stand. Are they aware of their child? And of their child's life absolutely so I'll know whether it's a birth parent or like blood parent or if it's some like someone that raised you. That's parental to you. So if your mom had a one night stand with someone and the dad was gone and then the mom died very early and then also new ground. Grandpa raised you like I always pull in the biological parents to give them closure and to give them what they need to help them. Kind of take a step forward in life with it because a lot of them allow them to know that their that their parents are not their birth parents reach a certain age obviously because a lot of them a lot of people come to me or typically with like for like twenties on and rob them will like won't say anything then I'll say to them be like I don't know if you've ever met your dad because your dad is kind of all over you in the sense that like you know. It doesn't seem like you met him. But you have a father figure that passed away though too. But that's not your blood and then they go. Oh my God yeah and then we start talking. Then I started diving into the situation for them. The must be such a relief to so many so many adoptees that never got a chance to meet their birth parents. Yay and a lot and like sometimes people lose their parents very tragically young and then they kind of go to an aunt or an uncle but they never really had a true relation. I mean a good example is molly because Molly Shannon. Because she lost her mom she was four so she didn't really have that relationship that like most people have with their parents growing up teenage years. Twenty getting married having kids all that so when I bring in these people for that like their actual parents you can tell that they get extremely emotional. Bundy's like a weight lifted off of their shoulders like they feel relieved like they feel good. And that's the best feeling for me. How old were you when you realized you had this gift? So when might like like I said my? My aunt passed away when I was about four months old. So what else out? Four three or four. I just found out this story from my mom when I was getting like interviewed which is so weird but I guess we were driving and so basically I had this my entire life but like we were driving and we were very silent and I told my mom I go And Sue is thank. Thank you for thinking of her right now. And my mom turney. She's like how did you know I was thinking about her. And then like other stuff started happening. That was like my mom said the most bizarre things like when I was like six or seven and a family party I walked off to my mom and I was like and sucess. Thank you for bearing her in your Jean Jackets. She's really calm comfortable right now. Yeah and then like stuff like that started happening even more but then I got really scared of it so I stopped speaking about it because I got so scared and I also realized that like like what I'm seeing feeling and all that like not everyone else's and as I got older like you know kids are kids and teenagers are teenagers and they're not always very nice and accepting so. I try to keep that on the download and I just played sports and tried to live a normal life but before I went off to school and I had preseason for my sport I like couldn't hold it in anymore. It was just becoming more and more. I guess stronger because Al seeing other people's families I was seeing so much and I asked my mom if there's mental illness because I feel like I'm schizophrenic. Like it got to that point I I was invested up like it was. It was bad so yeah it took a while for me to accept who I am with 'cause I was You know scared and I didn't know how people would take it. What is the honest? What's going to happen when you get married you? How hard is it going to be for you to find somebody? That understands how much this takes up of your life. Which is surprising is like more people. I guess or way more like understanding about it than I thought like I saw people were going to females like girlfriends. I've had girlfriends when I you know kind of like you know told them when I wasn't out there doing this. You know whatever that you know. This is what I see. And they looked at me like ten heads and then like I caught them. I caught one cheating because of me connecting to her no father Wa. Yeah so what are the grandfather. Say it was weird. I like this is never happened so like like it happened then but like it never happened before but we were just laying in bed and then all of a sudden the name. Frankie just kept coming and you know he and it was her GRANDPA and he was warning about a frankie like a warning so I turned to her and I go. Who's Frankie and she looks at me and she turns white like white like a ghost like and immediately. I'm like Oh shit like this isn't good quick. You know I'm like oh my gosh she goes. That's my ex-boyfriend and I saw him about a couple of nights ago. Like like she. She couldn't even deny it like you know she. She wasn't going to try and lie about it does not. Does that mean the grandfather wants her to be with Franky or he likes you more than his granddaughter not that he likes me more than his granddaughter he was. I guess he respected me to let me know what what was going on. Because I wasn't doing anything to her I was treating her very well and you know and I think he just was like you know. This isn't fair to this kid. Like this is not fair but then I had you know readings you know where I caught. People do not to their certificate others. That happens a lot you know like so have you. Have you ever had it? Where you're you've met with a couple and you know that one person's cheating and then you're in a weird position because you know that if you bring it up they might get divorced. I have yeah I I definitely have and I go about it in a very like Delicate way but yeah. I'll do it in a way where like Like Day they admitted like it's not me like like I'll bring up little context clues and start saying someone's name and like you could tell that they're getting like you know bothered and unlike you know and then I could tell later on because they'll they'll come back to me like a year later and they're not with that person to work on. The real housewives cast members because I feel like a lot of shenanigans. Wow Well Jonathan. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it Jesse. Great guests Greek s this episode Marlo Hampton and Jonathan Mark and remember you can jump into the facebook group and talk about this episode in other episodes. 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SEXTUPLETS - Double Toasted Audio Review

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SEXTUPLETS - Double Toasted Audio Review

"Summer's almost over but it old a._b. The styles are as hot as ever get to old navy now for thirty percent off all genes forty percent off all addresses and fifty percent off all all teas. That's right get thirty forty fifty percent off all your favorite styles for the whole family plus up to seventy five percent clearance hurry in fast. These deals won't last the sale ends soon at old navy and old navy dot com valvoline store eight twenty two eight twenty eight and online a twenty two day twenty-four excludes in store clearance bubbles active licensed and men's package tease aw come corey. Hey the other dock meet a. Hey how you been pretty good now. You've been been good man. He's grilling up yesterday got his delicious. Burgers and chicken didn't want them. You could tell me where they okay. Hey good okay trash. I'll tell you oh you would oh yeah. The hell is this. I mean we're talking by the grill and and i even even told burned. He just laughed at me because it was blackened and burned not as far beyond uh-huh. Oh so yeah man but thank you for coming by yesterday. Thanks for having me yeah. We watched <hes> really bad movie. Last night much thought you would have been done with potentially bad ed movies <hes> no man. I'm always like good. Excuse me good bad movies <hes> but it will this with this one is more. I like marlin. I've always been a fan of marlins and i i was like he's going to have one and he's gonna come legitimate fan i yeah he favorite wayne's of like the whole family like growing up watching them on like the winds brothers and then like scary movie and and then actually going back and retroactively requiem for a dream all right brother has like in the act and he's funny and he's he's lively. I wanna see him do good stuff and then time i am happen. You don't have that anymore. Yeah man you know. Let me pull up some over here before going further. You can always depend on korea because you know i like. I like stuff. I can't explain why. I don't know why i have have no. I have no explanation for it. I can't tell you why but eight and freud. Was that a german chick. When you see other people fuck up. It makes you feel good about yourself. Oh i know her real well. No man i as a as a thing about like i say thing with bad movies where you always always you see something that you don't all seen any other movies. Man's always something unique more than you see even good movies man but in that place has been doing a lot of stuff and see the thing with netflix netflix says a lot of good stuff out there by talking about how good this series the family is everybody's mind hunter right now. In what am i watching topless. They just just passing all the good stuff for marlon wayans and the game. You know all you marlin weighing fans out there like you a eh quite a six of course again. I i get a bargain with this six times. The winds rain here here. I'll get my money. That's enough for a lifetime. Yeah one was linked. Let me just let me just the let me say right. Now that i saw the i saw the reactions to people looking at that still marlin wins as <hes> himself itself. You know pretty much playing himself. He's got him alan but then he has five siblings and he is playing the role for all of those and a lot. A lot of people scoffed at that and i got to tell you that <hes> him playing other characters that that is the the least offensive thing. He told me if i if i can even say offensive that's the thing i'd i least noticed with this because i tell you because it's it's is is really a condition would blackmail entertainers about one out of every five blackmail. Entertainers are going to dress up as another character movies especially probably probably more than likely a big black woman and i'm a d. out now. Don't go pretend that you don't know me. You ain't heard most. That's the one that everybody knows now. We have to stop. Stop this disease. There's no cure people to telethon we can do something. Martin has been out there for years eddie murphy eddie murphy. He's got to the point eddie. Murphy played other people until he got to play in the <hes> the the big black woman <hes> you know he hit the critical stages right. They're business see the difference is though like the pair came in the game dressing in drag but like eddie murphy was already doing his own hollywood them that that is true that is true say same ed martin lawrence martin lawrence m my lord what was almost homophobic but that disease kicked look what happened to them. You know this shit happens to every one one out of every one out of every male entertainers out there are going to get this. Does that mean we're in danger. Does that does that mean. We're in danger you know what has he been up here dressed in drag before wait a second criticize but it ain't my phone. I got a disease money help because like chris. I don't wanna do that that she got me man. I got he wasn't. I had no help no cure for a man. I don't know like sickle cell you. You know they know q eight nine but i tell you i'm like you. I think okay let you know. I wrote a petition awhile because i just walked out of a marlon wayans movie that was so bad. I can't even remember which is yeah which is a black was fifty. Oh i guess it was shaved black. I walked out of that movie sold. I don't get upset said as much as a did back then i'll i'll still rant and everything i was into last at that time <hes> so i will just just petition about marlon wayans in. I finally realized what it was. It was just the disappointment of seeing a guide that not even if he was doing like you know sex sex and bathroom humor is just that it was that bad from somebody is that i think and this i'm being honest rate here as well as nobody trying to look at another black person try to pull them down even though he called call me a crab ass nigga but and you know that was not the point was that since wrote a tweet at the end and we call you out of your name and it was not like i say i will tell you that i'm very aware that marlon wayans does not give it was shit about corey komi here bro gas corp comm. You've got his thing going on. You got his netflix money. It was just at the time i even to now i. I thought that marlon wayans was so talented in town too that i really just want to see him. Do something that is above that make it makes money but i'm sorry i can't help it and it's not it's not for me to make that decision you know but i'm sorry to southfield you need something to spur him to do to live to his full potential and for what are we going offers like the biggest thing that hurts the most about this. He's like a producer on all these things that he's so bad and it's like so you didn't have to do this. You had the money you could have got to make a decent film but you just took the low brow like poop humor out and it's like it's not that great yeah yeah and when i say that i don't think he wears about a little little coma over here for i would say good for years. He put up at on this is not me feel myself right now but i ah do finding a coincidence that when a petition came out and you know there's a little thing on <hes>. He said you know what i'm not gonna. Make movies like this. He didn't say how long i'm not gonna make movies like this right now and i thought wow maybe just maybe just maybe that a little too. It was enough to make them think and then it was announced that we got six topless on netflix but that's why i thought i said man you know something. Let me go and wash this and let me know washed the hate. Let me watch us to give us another chance. Maybe the trailer was just bad. Yeah that is that is true man that is true and the minimes they can't forget flip wilson to that's where it started. He's he's the patient zero. He's patient zero. He was that was that what movie monkey that outbreak usually yeah flip wilson was the outbreak glee here anorexic madera theorist so as you can see this is nothing new him play in these kind of character so let's go and take a look at this trailer for sextuplets and and we'll be back corey myself. We'll be back to see if given oman wins. Another chance actually pays off review whole life. I always wonder what my family it was like. Oh my mama had six babies at the same time. We're sextuplets. Maybe one of them chained to yourself. You know we do strikingly similar bolster my brother russell the j. j. j. you joy to fight all siblings good night and and making the beautiful boy bosom damn close on so so you're triple what strip in a different this relevant is don't don't do this. It's money you got. You got my hat's. Hey hey you normally bernie bro. You shep oval house about the el chapo. Land land is in the hospital aspirin every day to day. Long lost family member appears thinner donate. A kidney said what he wanted to take what it is. Don't look look at me because i sniffed way too much laptop and i popped a molly yesterday. I wasn't molly just got. The rest of these past. Few days have been degree. Despite life model cynthia through our together a hunting scene told nelson the real enough like everybody affiliate got hurt. Everybody homeroom does win saying but you know what man i could lose. I could look go for it. Well and i'd like to hear your opinion after after say this but i have to say that the beginning of this is is okay for me. I i'm gonna tell you why because it looked. It's not great by any means. All the dialogue is just exposition in this him and his him and his wife you. The dialogue is like hey we're having a baby and i need to work hard to get that that that that that raising that that that that that <hes> that new position in that work that promotion i wanna make partner part yeah man. You know. It's a good thing that i'm working hard at work so i could probably finally get that part of the position. I've been getting it for three years at work. You know with that kind of exposition in movie man but i will tell you there. Is something sweet about seeing this version. A marlin wins the one. The version are the movie version at least of him that wants to be a dad you know because because with him in this role the the humor is gentler you know not continuously relying on getting cheap laughs from sexton as memento is a poop humor with marlon. Wayans just seems a little more a little more relaxed very natural special vegetable wife you saw there. Marie played by breda web pressure web and and it's kinda corny. He's kinda corny but liked. He plays out like a family sitcom. Okay you know it's it's. It's not laugh out loud funny all the time <hes> but it's nice it's kind of the same way like his movies. Especially netflix ones are really deceptive because his the other movie. He had a naked which came out. I came here with early last year. It started the first. I ten to fifteen minutes. Were really good it was he just had to get everything ready for the wedding and then it turned into a groundhog day film so you're just like all right. There's a there's a solemn like marlon wayans. Did you see there. He's actually acting. He's not just laughing and making weird faces. Yeah yeah you know and when you watch early you talk talk about. It's like a it's like a family sitcom even have the the same characters that you see in family type sitcoms like the father in law. That doesn't like your son-in-law glenn term right here. He plays his father-in-law but i gotta tell you man those the brief moment the brief moments that those two together they actually it's one of the funniest things in the movie going. Termine is a really good veteran actor. Who's done drama and comedy back and forth so i i would expect him to be good yea yeah. He's he's really good. <hes> he's knocking remember because they had a chance for such a short amount of time he his wife is actually <hes> somebody who was a famous actress back. Can the in the ninety s. She don't get no time screening to get in and out oh baby. He's got to disappears. I remember the ninety s yes. He's gone you know and i would like to say that maybe it doesn't feel like a typical marlon wayans as movie because mar marlon wayans didn't write a direct but marla wisden really write and direct he might have wrote some parts of it like you say you produce. I had other writers and directors in like these guys right here. Rick alvarez who is actually on the right here and then mike tides who has done you know they they've directed parts are had a part of making things like some of the worst like a great. I'm starting to get as much as i hate to say. The grail would never do that to you. A a black you know they they had a hand in and directing and producing writing a hundred house one into even with naked the netflix movie that he has so you know i'm looking at this unthinking. Maybe it's just it marlon. Wayans is said his ass down. You know maybe maybe he's doing some of the same humor but he's just kinda pull back and just made it a little bit softer for the better okay i'm thinking and then after that first ten minutes will and then after that then that is the point where marlins starter multiply in the marlin that you that you feared would appear from all these other movies that's where he finally shows up except it's not just him is that modern that you feared that is manifest itself into five other people and all of them are doing all the ma-margaret marlon wayans so all of them are just is doing the most outrageous shit saying the most outrageous shit just trying out silly themselves for laugh so it's like you got him wet and then fed him after midnight yeah exactly yeah nightmare and the thing about it is is like all right some people you can kind of see them lose themselves in the in the in the fed sues news or whatever other role they're playing. It's like no. I notice marlin. Why are we here. Don't just why why are you make the sued why go for it. Just just put marlin fun and i i tried mar not try to hang. I try to give you they give you ten fifteen minutes. What do you want more. Mutnansky gave me goddamn to really be when they got. It's almost like it's funny. Because you see you see you see six different. Marlon marlon wayans right there yeah. It's like a video game. Actually on a lockable character that you don't see so is actually seven modern ways but you'll see you don't see you gotta play the game and a special character before you get too so it was actually seven of a man and i tried to hang martin. How long lasted but i tried man i i gave him. I gave him a couple of characters before. I had to tap out. I gave him russell making. I gave him that right there. Because that's the you know something at least with their story. It's it's two of them and he's and he's kind of sweet character. You know so and plus. It's it's like now. Don't don't don't get it wrong. That's that that is a stereotype of a mentally challenged person so i mean he just seems to me like he's a generator for fat jokes it that just well martin. I'll give you this this much like at least they try with that character a little bit more young yeah. It's not just all lowbrow fat jokes. There are a couple but with him. It's more of like he's just so odd and sl slap stick. He's more of a chris farley without the fat jokes yeah ah to his credit low. He tries to use them as a way to not great but it uses as a way to make <hes> to to make a nostalgia jokes about the nineties and the eighties <hes> <hes> oh. He's a socially like he's he's he he hasn't he hasn't been out in the in the world but anyway he sheltered. He's been the house housebound sell for years and all he watches the old video tapes of old t._v. Shows in the seventies eighties and the nineties so that's all he kind of talks in so at least they didn't make him like you know. Just a vessel much of fat jokes folks okay. Even though there's there's a little bit going on with him making fun of people with this but you know but there's something nice about the bonding on a road trip is kind of a sweet thing. I gave him that one but it's nice to do it like four more times but i like the i like names on august. It's kind of cute like i've done this with my brother before and then they happens again in another time with like oh you remember this show back in the and then it happens like this is going to be reincorporated at some point and this movie and sure enough enough there it is yeah you know you. Try to try to get with it. I tried to get ready for for a little bit. I even let them. Have i even had elliot. I even let them have the one i should. I let them have the the old hood red stereotype dawn. I let them have that one. At some things. Please don't don't do that. You can see the seems you can tell us shit as kit you care martin. You could see what it shows. They connected to us by martin. That's not the only time there's there's a scene where they're like tied up and marlins facing the camera and the other two people are supposed to be marlins well his his doubles look. Nothing like some do some sharp features mine so i don't understand seeing her here and then these outside the prison she comes jumping. I don't worry about tomorrow. He gets her out but he's all like. Who are you mark. Please donate donate. Don't ask so many crimes weird things that happened in this movie trailer. This thing is why he doing this logic when he he is not make a point where the brother russell. He's he says hey. I don't drive. I can't drive at the very end of the movie. He's it's like. I want you to drive me from alabama to atlanta. What what are you doing talking best. If you ask me these things i have to reach into my asked to explain this are had to go through the loop intelligent they they don't they don't bother okay. Don't make any sense okay but i will tell you i least gave him some credit for. I didn't i hate it this cared but i gave him credit for at least juggling three characters at this point because what he's doing. He's there are a lot of times with their own scenes together and they are interact interact pretty well with each other. The coordination is kinda is actually pretty amazing and then we and then they got to and then it got to a ethan the pimp money just i say fuck it man i try. I can't hang with this. No more you know this is about the forty two minute. Mark almost checked out to us long glade please. No point stopped being a movie and turn into a fucking halloween party party like this. You just gave up really yeah. He's not even trying to distinguish himself from this guy could've taken doug martin marlin. You know i could have taken trap marley a rapid mon- i could take a fucking ghetto but a a pimp from the seventies bundy's. He's supposed to be thirty eight yeah yeah yes martin complete with a switchblade and everything i was like yes. Oh yes this is. This is what white people dress up as for halloween were. They know that they're not gonna be no black people at the party i for those those pimping hoes puddles seven parting outing at fred's. This is what they do and i just fucking gave up a cigarette even trying anymore man. I'm robert you too stupid as characters because i gave you credit for those. I tried to find something good in it. I tried to actually complementary some kind of way but fuck. You just gave up for this. How you inspect meat to fucking be with you. Support you when you don't support me with this bullshit you being the crab again. Corey well good. They pushed him out the barrel about. Please please step over here. Please stop on his to get you away. Yeah please. What what do you want me to do. Molly what do you want me to do. I mean downhill help. I'll try how can i how can i support you. You ain't giving me a hand man. Would you me too for second hand. You know it also helped me help. You don't need my help but fuck. It helped me. They gave up on that fucking. We got the baby p. o. Marlon wayans pupa count his head it just it was so weird. Another crime happens. There's something he tells his movie. Your like i'd be curious. Spoiled is please. You know what we'll do. Yeah we'll review. 'cause i know some not everybody wants to hear because somebody you know i do a little marlon. Wayans fan. I did is gonna stick with you made a great film. This is like it shows a range in his his acting. I think somebody <hes> tweet us instagram just talk about what if anybody roses i support. I'm not gonna sit up here and and look like as a little crab. I'm just telling you man i. I tried the butter ready martin yeah. That'd be really loved but there's even some things i i was waiting. I let me just let me just wait. Let me just wait real quick because the you know one of the one of the characters don't give a lot of attention to is a jasper. Jasper is just weird shit about jasper until we get to the point we can talk about but that's just weird enough to to be to be interesting but even then i mean it's the point where it's not he. He doesn't and have a blonde bland story like the other ones okay that's kind of interesting and i did get a laugh or two out of him when it was because i think i was delirious from the rest of the movie the you know what i agree with you. When you came on it was such a it was such a weird in different character that i kinda liked it. I was like man. You know what this this right here. This could be the one that just kind of you know that could be that could be going to stick the landing jasper right here within the whole. This'll the one jasper say the drought five times on is gonna crush lockable carry the but then they turn into like it was just an excuse to have a make a big joke out of a an old show. The does the rock yeah turn into like humanist it. Maybe you would appreciate dating because it turns into a he's just there to turn to a big joke about the rockford files most show that some people don't even remember right right yeah but i mean it's the detective. I can't say. We're getting spoiled territory all right have you. Did you know what the hell no hell allison showing yeah because they would. They have to leave song at the end of this and we will be cool if it was actually something that felt natural but it didn't it just seemed like man. He just pulled this out of nowhere. I mean it's something that i could tell that marley as like in ain't no good good. I'm really happy be the marlins loves the rock footballs. I think it's a great show yeah yeah but it just comes thrown in animated. Maybe even go like what martin is. Tom's they hate it. They like i said the theme it's like a rock before theme song they sing the entire theme song not so we gonna take a minute out of this movie to sing another the theme song. You got to figure that out that time man ilya biller philly man. How long is the movie alpha nine minutes. Oh why you have filler an hour forty nine minutes yeah yea i don't. I don't know maybe nestle pays about a minute. I don't know maybe it was our thirty nine allan thirty nine. It could have been thirty nine yeah our twenty not really you know but that's what like ten what it was is that it was a the movie into feeling like an excuse. No really it feels like whatever stories there is thrown together as an excuse to give mon- wayans excuse to be several different people his range to show his reign as we got. We got ghetto hood red marlin. We got a little little marlins little cancer marlon fat marlin. We got our final marlin a lot of range right there. I i played into vinyl. I could do that for you but let me tell you man. It was something that was it was it was impressive to do this at one time of course when eddie murphy did it with the klumps. It was something that people talking about. You deserve <hes> an academy award for this. I don't know why about trying to lose weight and the first player won't be the same san the out different big small medium messages. You won't be the same open winfred. She gonna lose one on which the fact way to look all big skin hanging off. Luther vandross new used to be back powerade. It lost all that weight looking at it now. Let me let me let me tell you. It was so funny the first this time it was funny the first time let me tell you why it worked with eddie. Murphy first of all eddie murphy was talented. You know what mom went away is talented to eddie. Murphy was plan plan. You would tell eddie. Murphy was in there but still eddie. Murphy really was playing those different characters up to where they felt like they had different personalities and i'm gonna tell you to double down on onus. It was good also because eddie murphy it was in the klumps and he put it in there just for a segment yes what he did was. It was just a near for like a funny segment. It was great it was brilliant but then he left it alone to concentrate on story mainly through a care to that people could relate you too <hes> which was sherman clump right now if you notice when they went to by the time they got to like <hes> the the actually name the second behind the honey in the nutty professor by the time they got to the when they got to got to the second one they call the slums yeah. They tried to put too much of it in there that didn't work as well now with other things like with those characters. The clump family in general is you don't actively hate them like you see like even though they'll be picking on sermon and the rest of the family this like a loving family. They're coming together. They got each other's back and this marlon wayans movie. You hate all the characters and their scumbags scumbags so he was like. I can't even root for these people if i wanted to because they're actively making me hate them. It looks to me like a piggybacking on that with the klumps besides that you don't hate them. They kind of remind you people you might know <hes> leasing your family and and were wanna wayne's is doing with this sextuplets. Let's live with adam. Sandler does where he plays characters. That are such aberrations like what does this based on because i don't know anybody yeah what you know what you make a good point with that because really put them back a little bit. I have to give marlon wayans a lot of credit. Even <hes> you know regarding what to say about these characters. I give them a lot of credit because go back to seeing what i did about the interaction. All of his characters are interacting very well. You can see where marlene wins is very talented in. I want to play different characters because he can. He's the movie. You know whether it's for better for worse. He's carrying the movie with six characters. Seven characters really and the interaction action with the with each other on screen is amazing. That coordination is amazing but you know the the problem is with the characters that he is planned man all these characters. They are stereotypical impressions that we all do at one point because these characters are based on voices. Yeah you the based on the based on voices that we all say in passing. You know when we know what i'm gonna make a movie about it. We might make funny for a second you know we. We've all done at blackjack by far as our next. We've all done it. He makes a whole fucking character out of it. You know we've we've all done. You may be softening hued. You know we both doing there but he makes a fucking care dot of it. We bowed on the pam player. You know we we make these voices right right. It's like a cartoon character like maybe it started. As as an actual person somebody did an impression of and somebody impression of that and the characters he's doing is an impression that's four or five generations generations down the road to where it doesn't even resemble the original that it's supposed to be based you recognize him but he recognized as we. We all make these voices but we don't you know. I don't know if these are grateful characters. You know the character who always does and there's a character who also lost the white voice in nominee. Come home in you know these these voices these characters speaking like a broken man. I am the in in he does the voices and doesn't do much with them except like i say you know like you said filler. He's just just mugging for laughs. You know doing silly. Antics laughs not really a part of the story. I don't mind. I don't mind like i try to keep them out. <hes> a and even the nice tone of it wore off. You know we started out so gentle like it was kind of being a family friendly and away then he the marlon wayans could even keep up with that. He cared to start acting without fox wrong with this sex jokes in there with molly shannon in which they're not they're not. They're not like too risque anything but this is like man. You know what i really kind of sweden really nice and i don't. I don't even know oh p._g. Version on the marlins go like eddie murphy me making them a family films but it was working. It was working at the beginning. God just get a mile away as movie where he's not shitting in farting in dress up a different people in talking to mug him doing all credit crazy face. Get fucking mon- away. It's not a thing it needs to be. He knows us get into doing this apartment. Sitting around for the end credits where it said for corey say uh-huh you send you <hes>. I'm going to get my you know. I'm gonna get my rain plans to corey korte this. Oh yeah man go ahead. Go taken now you it okay. I'll go and get my writing. The thing about this is marlon wayans he always for some reason he starts off the first ten to fifteen minutes of his movies being decent recent like black films for the most part you'll ride with it and then it just slowly comes down and your goes into that that sore of the jokes in the poop jokes and the all the farts and it's just gross out humor and is like i said so unfortunate for him because he is a talented person and even with these characters they could've just been barry tutti characters which they are but if you may be right some jokes around them that are legit funny and i don't see them coming from a mile away like the joke the joke of threes happening here so many many times his sister being the herat chick. She gets in fights the whole time so it was like all right. I know we're gonna react in all situations so like i'm not even surprised about not seen him do anything new or different so yeah man this movie. It's so unfortunate because marlin you are talented but my god maybe this worth watching. This is some ole bullshit yup up to the right out of my mouth right. There man tried to keep an open mind. You only the door open so long man and you got the air conditioner dope you don't fucking some old bullshit straight up some mobilised in it and don't want it to be. I don't want it to be they. Come in here looking for that. Don't want to be you know. The only thing i can say is the is really a part where i can defend. This movie is a look. You know i i can't even i can't even blame for making it. I mean if netflix throwing money at you i know in san luis adam sandler adam sandler just made where murderers it's just made the lazy as as murder mystery called murder mystery should pull it up now. It's a foot long detective. Don't put people but what are we going to call it. Murder mystery mystery is taking action comedy yeah man. This is getting his money. I ain't gonna angles at a p and tell me netflix thrown out checks like that. Get your money and it's your money any black man. Get your money white man black man where the mexicans they get yours too buddy eh but there's some bullish i want to enjoy didn't want to come here and say this so the the the movie that looked like it was going to be some old bullshit. Turn surprise surprise you deliver. We learn the more you can't go by. Looks you gotta you you gotta. You gotta always say man. You saw you saw the bullshit before you said it was bullshitting about dan man man so listen. Hello people spoiler alert for this call. She's a decade cape brain cells that this trauma that your brain is try to know what sextuplets spoiler alert here so at the end jasper shows up. This is like probably twenty minutes at the very end of the movie and jasper turns out to be some kind of like secret agent that works for the f. b. i. or something and the reason he comes in is because marlon wayans is a wife at the time hit mccowan f._b._i. All day like multiple times to get contact with him so jasper comes in and he has that what coleman says the standard like white voice the voice and he's just like his whole steak was. I'm not black enough. Anybody like i got called an inward an an agenda. They call me a ninja. Just like that's funny yeah like this one chuckles to and then it goes to where <hes> <hes> they find out about they all love the name of the rockford files how many theme songs and they all sing the theme song together and now there are honky dory. <hes> doesn't work too well. No they're just like the the muscles doing a little simple thing yeah and then this whole time russell when marlon wayans went to go see russel when i met <hes> russell said hey mom's dead sorry you didn't get a chance to meet her and the next thing you know after the dancing and the rockford files see me home in the rock profile asong the mom comes around the corner guessing what is but you know what what what he's not telling you that asset to is that not only only is jasper the nefarious <hes> not only he's angry of a kind of <hes>. I guess outcast you know. Albinoni's in guy would be made fun of for that. He's also like an various super villain. <hes> he talks like mega mind yeah. He comes out of a black man. He tells everybody he's like because you because he's been looking for his family marlon wayans in his movie you know he says you know until you start looking for your family. No one knew i was i was just a shadow and then you start putting up red flags. I don't like red flags and then he puts a gun up to them and now i have to destroy you and he's going to kill them. The only thing that saves them is humming. I'm in the rockford files in even then he's like well. That was good. I liked that was fun trying to die anyway but then mama williams comes in you always out doing all. My babies are altogether. None of them ever have a moment of like bitch. You left me when i was a kid and only one that knew that she was alive was russell russell. Wanna tell anybody because russell was like we really liked being the only child so like this. It's it's a weird shit man and can you find out jasper's a big rockford files fan and owns the actual car from the movie and that's what you see <hes> russell you jump over the car and tries to slot over it and and that's when marlon wayans let's russell who legit said. I can't drive in got. Their car destroyed by a bull like an hour earlier in the movie gets. The drive live like seventeen our stick. It's it's it's a mess and this guy's gonna like the interstate so and then there's crimes happening. Baby pete's swap swap spiral so marla wayne's character gives him a kidney against his will now getting really ticks this believe me. It sounds better hearing from his mouth. Sit in the movie marlin plan the mom to yes. That's the character yeah yeah. It's yeah it's is a one big family. Reunion at the end of campaigns turns out to have a harder goal they misunderstood and they had one short up telling me and it was a minute long seen where they resolved story. Loud real quick easy tells like inaugur. I had nobody to growing up and i actually had a nail salon and landlo- came in took my shit and i ain't got nothing do you. You have your tenant i._d. I can make a call and fix how really done for me and they never dress it anymore. Hey he's not a pimp. No moi you no. He's got a salon beck. Everything is good. Bull shit happens here. We explain it and it sounds like we're having a stroke but it's like it's a real thing imagine imagine if you were to call your your wife. When she was pregnant the first time it was like hey i just needed like ten grand a take a stranger out of jail and she's like no you do it anyway away. Yeah gut you as a body double <hes> story this. There's a reason why pimp wayne's looks just like the other night the other cat right. He's playing because they do a body switch in the movie. Yeah he ends up having sex molly shannon but nobody ever addresses that later that's right it. It is yeah but not not ninety six the world they don't. They don't even mentioned they don't care. Hey we never find out if he got the if he got the promotion if he may pardon oh series the ethan says he's like oh congratulations on making partner by the way but you don't know if it's like just saying it or if the actually happened fucked fuck joe bows and made you partner you welcome brother. You know we don't ever see her. You want some lazy schick on his in his movie. Movie is bad. It's terrible. Yes wimpy kid in the klumps smash together on. It can't be wimpy kid. That's just in comp clumpy kissing yeah yeah man. I mean you know we'll make sound like his weird than what it really is. But you know just sounds dumb. No it is it. It is but i say nothing you're right. Well you know earlier today. The day i got a money on my hat's hey norman borough something. Extraordinary has happened to judy size moore's closet making it few more like got closet. An area that once caused claustrophobia now has enough space to hold all of judy striped boat neck sweaters and judy sizemore has lot of striped right mcnair sweaters weather from the container store custom closet sale is here with up to twenty five percent off all systems including including alpha the container store where space comes from you. Do it right to save because you work too hard for your money. 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27 - Live from Montreal with Pete Holmes

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59:58 min | 1 year ago

27 - Live from Montreal with Pete Holmes

"It's fortune fame Sir and I'm on tour so many shows coming up. I've got Buffalo New York this weekend. At helium then Portland Oregon Eugene Oregon Salt Lake City Indianapolis Madison Wisconsin Wisconsin Santa Fe Phoenix Newton North Carolina and then I'm taping my comedy special in Charlotte North Carolina get information and tickets at Fortune teamster dot com on you guys. Thanks for being here. This is Milady Jacks. I ever welcome to our episode of sincerely fortune. It's a newer podcast podcasts and Jack's is my fiance yeah congratulations she edits our podcast and as a producer and she's also oh happens to be a kindergarten teacher but we have one real big. Fan of kindergarten teachers just teachers general. They're lovely. Were you a teacher. I was a music teacher mandatory. Oh that's exciting. Well welcome welcome. We loved nature. We do this podcast in our office and it's a whole different ballgame and she's can't believe she's currently on stage right now. How how are you feeling nervous? I think she's going to be great. It's great it's great and told her she doesn't want to talk at all she doesn't have to this is not a podcast where we pressure people. It's just a podcast where you can be yourself and sincere here and I know it's hard to get in a word edgewise when I'm talking with two comedians anyway. I don't know what she's talking about. We're all very shy but yeah we started this podcast in January like I said it's called sincerely unfortun- where I just wanted to sort of pull the curtain back a little bit on Comedians because we have a tendency to be very silly. People know me from dancing with ice cream. It's not the most cerebral type of comedy comedy and I just wanted to show another side where talked about things that are more important or just interesting dislike showing a more sincere side of myself and sometimes we interview people. Sometimes it's just us but since we're in Montreal like I gotTa Talk Awesome Comic and we have one of the most awesome comic can find and all the land teacher. It's not me no I mean it's a double. It's a double whammy Miami plus a teacher so you're I know you're heads exploding right now but we're very excited you have anything else you wanted to add. Nope Jack's might just sit here and do this which is great to just smile and nod your perfect you verb it very exciting. You guys please give a big round of applause to pete the theme music to give me diarrhea because when you first started doing this festival you're so scared to say it's it's nice to come back and just be a little bit more comfortable in my my own skin. Yeah no diarrhea no well just a smidge will and Jack's we will talk to you of course saying raising. I judge people on how they treat. My wife and I know a lot of Comedians feel the same way so that's a pro tip. If you ever see a comedian that you like be nice to their their spouse or their partner whatever you wanna say because then the comedian will also like you also just be a decent person but like people that ignore my wife. I'm instantly just kind of like this is over. Your wife is so lovely I actually met her when I met you at the comedy store backstage with me and we chatted a little bit that she's not here and and this is such a high compliment developed. Her name is Val. It'd be funny if I just changed great thing about Michelle Somebody Else Elsa Nova vow people keep asking where she is and that is also really Nice Nice. What you're talking about something? That's very real. It was one of the reasons why I wanted to have a baby as comedians are often. It's a problem it's not a big problem sort of like what we're good good ad but it's also very self-centered. We're very narcissistic and self serving everything is kind of for a reason and then love is very irrational like marriage is irrational not putting it down. It's it's a hard thing matt had having a baby as a heart thing not ahead thing and it feels wonderful. I look at pictures of my baby on my phone now before I go on stage and it kind of gives you this like invincible feeling really yeah. You're like what what could you do. Do you know what I mean. I used to go out and I'm like who will wake me. It's like what could you do this toothless child go grab it my face when I get home. Everything's everything better everything's fine and you're fine to whether or not you have kids. It's good to have some sort of connection but I don't have to say this to you. Unless some of your Comedians Comedians we start to fall up our own butts right so hard you have fallen up our but we fell in your picture it were you bending over and then you've got the sucked. How'd you fall up a but yeah she helps? Keep me from falling but that's what I'm saying. Yeah you need that. I Love I'm pro. It doesn't have to be married where I'm pro relationship especially like people that are like climbing some any sort of success thing something where you're turning who you are into a commodity right. You need somebody that you can be your real self yeah and they can call you on your ship. The number of times vows husband like that's a privileged position and I'm like stuff that I didn't even know I know I mean the same thing Jacksonville. She's also coming from a different world where she's working with kids. She's worked in inner cities for a longtime and I'll be like Oh. It's so hard I didn't get upgraded on the plane and she's like shut up. Shut your mouth right now and yeah you have to just you know dumpster frivolous things in just she's a good barometer of when you're just like all right. Let's take it down yeah totally and we've actually been having the discussion on our podcast the last few weeks yes sincerely fortunate are already not listening to it on the podcast is these words are sincerely fortune dot com and you don't have they steal your fans sincerely portion. We have not become very business minded. Oh that's not a thing. We don't even have an instagram paid. You don't need that because we want to be sincere seer be sincere. That's what's great about podcasts and I love that you're part guesses about sincerity because there is too much farting into a tornado talk about the real thing. Sometimes I believe a room full of two hundred people heard farting into a tornado and you went. We'll get the next one. That's not on me to picture. Are you pulling the pants down into the tornado. How dangerous is that? Ah We sometimes joke about Tornado farts you do get sincere on here but then we also lighten it up a bit a little bit about the end of the down. Still a comedian got to keep people interested why we'll say that's one of the things that I love about. Montreal is that it does feel like recess is that you can speak in a way like again. My wife and I I would say val val were here. I would say this. She notices that like when I talked to her friends. There's just like a filterless knows that that doesn't mean a rudeness right sharpness. It's just sort of like he just kind of say the thing and then I forget that that's not always welcome all right and then when I'm with Comedians I mean I was just talking to rich vase. I'm just making fun of him to his face. Is something really funny. I was talking to Bobby Kelly Bob's big guy and it was like when you go camping to the other people put their food in a bag and sling it over a tree and he laughed he. You know he's a big dude. Picture ensure capital. Oh you're halfway there and there's something about going through the world and getting a little bit to attach to are false identity. I'm a believer that we're not our bodies. Were not our our culture. We're not our identity. We're not our country. We're not even our thoughts so it's kind of liberating. Are we consciousness but we don't have to get to sincere but I actually think I I'm not trying to take this spiritual direction but my spiritual beliefs are like the fun of roasting is to say like this is all just play. It's all just dance. The True Self your consciousness. Your awareness is undefendable because it's not identified with anything. And that's that's a beautiful place to be. You can't go around assuming everyone's living in that. I'm about to say a lot of people don't have that beliefs I wouldn't I never go. I'm offended no and I will defend someone's right to be offended because I spent most of my life being an offended person yeah church upbringing you think yes. That's why like I I'm. I'm trying to work on a bit right now. About how Christians Christian Evangelical we had like such a we were ahead ahead of the curve on so many things that are happening culturally right now like there was an earthquake in l.. A. And everybody was panicking and I was like I thought the world was GONNA end once a month my whole life yeah you guys all I think about all the play I thought Jesus was going to come in on a flaming sheep and behead me for masturbating too much and you guys are upset that the ground shook like wake the fuck the rest the rest of the life has gravy amy that's right and the other one obviously is is a serious one. I'm grateful for the progress that we're making a culture but it's consent. I was as a Christian. I didn't just ask for consent for sex. I asked for a hand in marriage that is like more extreme like yeah you guys are kind of catching up to taking things really serious and that can be appropriate obviously yeah and now where does that faith play into your life now. Let's just in the way that I was talking about it. I one of my passions is trying to obviously we've shipped in the PUNCHBOWL with religion in a lot of ways and I never thought of it like you got a music teacher at you ever shouldn't opposable teacher. She's she. He was a music teacher yeah well. I only know her by the name Music Teacher Music Teacher. What's your name? Jack is Your Dad Jacqueline Jackie. We should of the punch possible we fudge the punch okay fudge the punch my friend Josh Cini to the punch meaning. I think a lot of people are very very right in choosing atheism when the alternative is a structured pictured religion that says everyone that doesn't believe what you believe is going to go to eternal torment. Homosexuality is wrong that part. We don't care for really any sexuality I I'm not trying to you just like Seidel up to you but I grew up very ashamed of myself. I am straight but I was very ashamed of my sexual all really I sort of felt again. I'm not trying to say it's the same so. Please don't feel like I'm like metoo. I'm just I'm just saying it's obviously a different current struggled entirely with respect but I do remember feeling like you almost have to come out as straight. Oh Yeah Teddy's wasn't okay. That was part of my coming the three cents yes I can go up and people like titties. What a trip vacation but you just were trying to get comfortable in your own like being okay with having sex well that kind of covered this a lot in in my book the reason my book is called Comedy Sex? God is because sex and God were so linked yeah one another. There's no commas by the way so I when I heard the comedy sex God that's okay so what is your book covers a lot of that the reason sex gutter together other than it being in kind of funny without it was funny. I'm clearly not a sex Scott and we'd call it the book that I sort of regret it because every interview I did was like on the today show so are you <hes>. Do you have any poison and then here I am. Are you kidding me. We're having fun. It's welcome so but to me you know you're sort of raised in the system and no disrespect anybody that currently believes us but you're raising the system that God's love for you is transactional yeah. It's an if then situation if I'm good then God will love me and I bought hard into that with stakes as high as heaven and Hell and it was very natural natural for me. I'm a people pleasing person. I like to fit in. I like to be liked like name here. It'd be sweet. I like thought of as a nice good boy so it wasn't hard for me to not lie wasn't hard for me to not cheat or steal. Certainly it wasn't hard for me to not be mean. I didn't even I love swearing now but I didn't swear I didn't smoke. I didn't drink that was all fine but there was one sam and I'm putting that in quotes do not believe that it is a Sam yeah was my sexuality. There's a a bubbling batch of hormone activity. When you're sixteen the age that your brain is not really equipped to understand the subtlety of Semitic metaphor or the nuance of eternal mystery and you're and you're going to believe things pretty fundamentally? You're going to believe I'm pretty black and white and literally and then they tell you that there's something that's occurring in your body that fundamentally God hates and wants to burn you for that is a fucked up. I would go so far as his child abuse and I felt that yeah abuse I felt really had a hard time coming to terms with that so that brings me back to my original point. We'll move onto some other topic after this but like when given the choice between a faith like back and saying you don't believe in anything which most of the people I know are atheists. I say that is the compassionate choice like saying. You're an atheist way more sense than saying every Jew. The died in the Holocaust went to hell if that if that's choice a choice B is this is just a cosmic accident. You are more beautiful and compassionate person to say I believe in nothing rather believing in a bully in the sky with surveillance system that wants to torture and kill everyone who's not exact who doesn't think like you yeah. We've turned it into an ego trip. You got me preaching it's not I don't know what you mean. We'll wrap it up by saying. I don't think it's about what you believe yeah. I don't think it's about the contents of your brain growing up. I was a Republican I was I know who was that you thank you Jackie e. I know shoot literally gas. She was doing comedy. Teachers are in show business. Make no mistake original she she knew she was doing and I don't mean any disrespect to people that are Republican. I'm just saying I am now. A Democrat. I also was antiabortion now. I'm pro abort all chain. What stays the same what the contents of your mind is not transformation and that is what Christ and that's what Buddha and that's what Krishna that's what they're talking about? They're talking about a conversion. They're talking about and enlighten and enlightenment. They're not talking about belonging longing to a clan or a group or an US versus them situation sky's falling asleep and I'm done. I grew up <hes> in the Christian church. We were both methodist. That's the basis of our relationship. Not No I think I think what we've held onto because you want to take the good in the bed. You don't WanNa take the bed. Leave the bed you take the good gained for life. They were thinking about the Bible right fairly. It's just at the end of the day. It's just be a good person. You know what I took from. It was just tried two. I didn't I never think in terms now of like Heaven Hell. Am I being a good person well Richard. It's having all the way to heaven. Hell all the way to hell so what we're trying to do is change your consciousness right here now the the only thing that I would change. I fully agree with you that it's about being a good person. Being good is good. Being kind is kind. Sometimes I cry when I watch people singing on stage or they're dancing and I'm like of all the ugly things you could be. Doing you learn to dance to delight other people and that is beautiful. This is why we let Mister Rogers. He's simple and he's deep. We don't want to just be deep and we don't want to be just simple. There's actually a book that he loves called simple deeper steepen simple that he loved. That's I can't all I can tell you you type a simple deep into Amazon. Yeah we'll come up. What I'm saying is my journey the journey whether it's right or wrong it doesn't matter we're talking in words that are never going to get there? It's not the point but the way that I think about it is who's being good. What is being good who are you who are you really and what is the observing awareness? That's that's qualifying whether or not you're good at. Isn't that always good. Isn't that always perfect. Yes see Jackie Jackie. I had a good vibe from yeah. I understand that some of the row is tired and that's we'll ship for minute for you. People people that are you never know this thing. I didn't say Jesus once that's true I said Christ ones wasn't as last night cry. It's not a slug soup rim where Jesus Jesus h Christ this whole time. I thought that well what's going on with you. What I mean you had three seasons of the show crashing? I'm sure a lot of you guys saw great. Show I really appreciated your show Christ Christ. We'll because I had Jackson I just started dating and she was coming from this kindergarten teacher world also showbiz. Yes Dan basically it's the same as dealing with comedians the five year olds and I was trying to explain this world that we live in this crazy comedy world. That's hard to to describe someone who is doing and normal wonderful work. I'm like I'm GonNa Circus and your show was really helpful. I really yeah and showing her like Oh. That's what you did. When you were coming out? It's a struggle and you've got to really work for time. uh-huh oh absolutely I felt like I understood so much better where you came from and what that world looked like and when I met for Jin she was already in a different place like not in that beginning hustle so like watching urging you flyer on the corner or you know have to pay to get a spot like Oh wow you really put a lot of time and energy and effort into getting into this career. It's not just at least for me because I didn't know a lot about comedy when I'd go to show I'm like Oh. They're just getting up in talking. They're just being funny on the spot. I didn't realize how much work went into it behind the scenes a lot of open beggars thank yous go up beautiful about comedy is is you figure out right right away. You get feedback. It's so much easier than writing like writing. You're doing it alone and you're like. I think this is pretty good. Stand up is one of the reasons it's so sharp and can be so beautiful as because it's forged with the audience I really like to the thing I'm not doing comedy at the audience like we're making it together. If you're closing in on doing a special those shows leading up to a special but the audiences voting in real time which lines are going to be on on what I would. Let's as a work of art and I taped a special not that long ago and you're like adding things and it might work then it makes the special that's my live. Comedy is not going anywhere in my opinion. It's fun to watch it on your watcher on a plane but like there's some way what do you watch on your watch. You want on your what it's just a joke about how people stream on up there. I was like Oh my God. What can I want you? You know I only count my steps. That's all I do. Is I count my I'd say what time is it at. ooh I only have three thousand steps. Okay gotta get on it. I'm like a SPA became a person that is going to be the new quote for this podcast. I also think you should call your new Special Sweetie Pie. That's my I what on Pete's podcast you made it weird and we that's wonderful your accusation the only accusation you come in already guilty and we we're talking about that. I'm doing a special couple months. I was trying you always have to name your tour special. I'm not good at that. He was like what do you have in mind and I was like I think I'm going to call it rule follower and he's like no undo that because it doesn't feel good in the mouth yeah rule follower follower it's the opposite of cellar door yeah cellar door ooh and so I was like we'll see and then the producer of of my upcoming special she goes what do you what do you think in. I said probably rule follower. She's like absolutely not. I guess that's not happening but you wanNA swap sides Montreal. I'm going in industry to call. It was Sweetie Pie Sweetie Pie. You know why because I'm actually jealous that hasn't been taken it really. I have strong feelings about specials. We need a big picture your face none of these faraway shots like the Beatles Abbey Road. I WANNA see your fucking face. I wanted to be a face in emotion that indicates how you are as a person and I want a title that goes. That's what I'm in the mood for. I Want Anthony Jessil. Knicks is to be called like kicking the nuts or whatever and that's what it is I love. Anthony and I want to be called Sweetie Pie yeah. I'll think about it. Also this is something the val helps me with. I'm constantly giving advice. I love getting advice yeah. I get mad when people know things and they don't tell me so I please. I'm not Pete's planning this to you didn't feel like you're Pete's lane. I welcome your ideas. I really didn't know Oh yeah and I feel like it's a little southern. It is a little something which is perfect for you also a believer and ideas that just come out we weren't we were backstage and I go you should call sweetie pie like I'm a believer in those ones that just kind of almost like a dream Yeah unfortunate teamster sweetie pie great special he gets a all you have a voting machine under your care and we're out in the pictures you stealing Pie cooling on a window so the choir in marketing no well how how was it for you getting to do that. I had sold a pilot and two thousand crashing. It was called crashing what you're asking me about crashing. Yes I'm asking about crashing. I had told a pilot thousands of team based on my life. We shot the pilot. I only got to do the one episode and I was so invested in that pilot obviously in that story because it was my story and when and I only got to do one episode and getting told no was one of the hardest things I was just like Oh you get a taste of what it would have been like in three seasons amazing. That's a lot of content but it is your story based on your life. What was the experience like and then also? What was it like having it? Come to an end where you ready or were you dislike. Oh No. I'm not ready right. Here's what that experience well first of all. I think what you're saying is so oh beautiful in essential in understanding Comedians is there's there's this B._b.. King quote that I love where he says <hes> they pay me to travel. I do the shows for free and I think about that all the time. Yeah I feel like they pay me to travel to the shows for free and when it comes to atv they pay me to wait and the show right so between shooting my pilot and it getting picked up there was six months and then in between seasons one and two I feel like I don't know Dave would know but like there's months. They're just months of really like I. I've been hosting the new faces right. I'm with the new guys I wanted to do those shows and when I'm with them I remember first of all I remember why so many comedians drink and do drugs Oh yeah is because the amount of anxiety there's this great moment. I love the born movies because I'm a white male in his forties. What no no one right onto okay well? There's a great moment white male and some people think so concert quite a lot I I don't understand broad shoulders. Sorry I love it well. Maybe you'll know this line so Jason Bourne is you know he's obviously the perfect soldier and he's trained and I see all these parallels to like comedians hone this one avenue of their brain. Obviously it's a lot less bad ass but they do the training raining and they get there and become like a type of soldier of being funny and then there's this moment where Jason Bourne is fighting another Jason Bourne. This is so boring I hate myself right now but they're fighting and then the other Jason Bourne who went through the same program has a gun on Jason Bourne and he can kill him. This is almost over. I can't wait for the gas. Jackie Jackie and I are on the same page and Jason Bourne says to the other Jason born the two comedians talking he goes look what they make us give and I love that moment and it's because I read into it and that's how I feel with the new faces. I go look what they make us. Give don't get me wrong. It's a privilege to Montreal and it's wonderful but the amount of stress so you made a pilot and you basically swallow it yeah you make this thing and you have to ingest it and you hold it like a baby in your stomach. It's very personal and then you wait months and months and in my case you're finding out oh they pass on that pilot. Did you hear this pilot and people are like you should hear any day now right three weeks later and you're going fucking crazy. Think about anything else it's or if you're like me. I can sort <music>. Send it to the back out really I buy it comes out behaviorally. That's why I don't drink and I don't really do drugs but still you see I do sometimes what they mean is. I'm not a habitual all drug. Some people come home. THEY SPARK UP A J. I think I'm saying that's right jake. They do the Weed I. I'm not like that but I wouldn't say no after my last show in Montreal. If you WANNA come there you go or if you have have some microdosing. I'll take him over. There is a whole fanny pack full. I know what's in that came full molly so it's the waiting and I think that's that's why I wanted to do. Crashing is if I didn't dream of crashing. Hashing getting to this place but if we had we could have shed light on just how crazy it is. I think a lot of people starting out in comedy. They're like some of them and these are not my people do not identify these as my people but they want to be rich and they WANNA be famous or they just have a misappropriated the desire to be loved and they're like therefore this is a position where people love it culture values it so I will seek it out the comedians that I resonate with and the comedian that identify as is somebody that is just written on my bones. When I was eight you could have gone? That's a comedian and that's what's beautiful. I think everybody in this room. My hope for all of us is that you find the frequency where you just sync up with what you're doing and who you are and it doesn't matter if it is valued by the culture that is not what Bliss List says I trust me like the money and the success is nice but what really makes you feel at home is going. I'm doing what my skill set my psychology physiology everything. I just looked like a comedian. I am talking comedian and it just feels nice to feel at home doing yeah so I always say follow the dream. That's following you. Don't just follow a dream. I'll be a movie star. You know what I mean like movie stars this our movie stars like interesting people. I know you so. The thing that I wanted to share on crashing is is is that I don't know if people know that there's a lot of anxiety and a lot of stress and a lot of real pain. There's also a lot of joy I broke my couch. When when season the three got picked up or season to really got picked up valid I jumped on the couch and Abro we got a new one finally but it for a year it was just broken and I didn't mind because every time I looked at it I was like yeah I jumped on my fucking couch? Has I'm not messing around. They're like joy and when it shows up by let it end. I jumped on the couch. You Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise Yeah then when it got cancelled though we one of the things that I'm trying to do as a human being is to say yes to reality so it's not easy but when the show got cancelled I'm trying to have a non circumstantial <music> base going right that is tapped into the non circumstantial is a good word for it the joy of being so the show gets canceled. What's IT GONNA do go on forever or go? Six seasons sure that was my hope nope. It didn't and you move on. I took it very well. My manager is here he would tell I'm not one of those like drunk. I they told me on the phone and I said I'm telling you all I feel is gratitude. Just feel grateful that I could do it. We had the fourth season mapped out. We were ready to go would have been nice to keep doing it but like there's also an element of like we're comedians. Were sharks like we like moving. Novelty is fun. There's always always there's always a bright side but I'm not even talking about rationalizing. Sometimes people confuse what I'm saying rationalizing the upside of something he just kind of it is what's happening right and the most powerful thing you can do in my experience is not resist. Just what's happening yeah because you can't control that outcome. That's right. You can only control how you respond but this goes for delayed flights. This goes for a meal that is served you. That's cold it whatever it is. That's irking you allowable Elson that back and you can't. I'm not I'm not saying we need to be pushovers right but being able to say yes. That's a that's. A big part of my book is a is a mantra that I try to use. I I don't always succeed is to say Ah yes thank you to to every now and it's very confusing to your brain. That's worth this podcast alone. If you're like me. Something doesn't go your way. It's very tempting to get lost in that and identify with it and be like well. This should be the other way right and I see this with delayed. Flights Delta always does this like what what you're talking about. Buildings and fleets of planes people think it's silly that I believe in God. I'm like you believe in Delta. I think you're GONNA do Delta and Delta is a metaphor for a thing yeah and so as God for mystery so it's just forget all my philosophy being able to say yes to what's happening because is because enlightenment and joy and bliss and everything good is right here. It's only ever right here and all the noise and all the story and all the suffering in your head is what's what's robbing you. I don't believe in the devil I believe even your overactive fly paper brain that does not know how to shut down yeah and just relax when the A._F._l.. Shuttle is forty five minutes late. I'm going to have to remember that tomorrow. I didn't do a great job. Remembering it on the Jeff will shuttle is working hard. I what I did better than I would yes because you're being more conscious and I knew when to go like I don't think that person's coming can we leave right you find a middle ground but yeah the key is to not lose your center right because if we're just a slave to circumstance and unfortunately so many of us are like we'll be happy when we have a coffee. We'll be happy when we have a dessert. We'll be happy when we get a nap. I'll be happy when this conversation's wins over. I'll be happy when Pete stops whatever it is if you're postponing your bliss or thinking it's over there or your enlightenment is in the next book or the next teacher the next faith or maybe if I do yoga or maybe if I start meditating it's looking out your eyes right now. It's here and now that's what every mystic has ever said here and now and they say stop judging or stop labeling Buddhist would say labeling Jesus was judging that just means stop analyzing buck and everything yeah who's coffee was smaller than I wanted or go to a museum. This painting is better than the last one shut up shut up. The brain is a wonderful servant. It's a terrible master and all of that's why I'm saying it's not about what you believe. You're not your thoughts are like clouds. You're the sky that's why it was like there was the Republican there was the pro-life those were clouds. What was constant what remained now? I Have Ah pro-choice cloud. It's not who I am. I understand that those things manner right Guam matters but the bliss and the piece that I've found is identifying in the witnessing presence of those phenomena <hes> well. If you have not done a Ted talk at at this point in your career you should percents feels like this beautifully written speech this. Is this your beliefs awesome well. That's what I'm saying. I think it's a shame that something that is your birthright all right as a member of being this. It's your birthright to have a passport a connection to this sort of stuff that I'm talking about right and it got co opted in ruined by narcissistic ego maniacal like maniacs that are like it's US versus them right. Even Christians are like these Christians are writing. These Christians are wrong and it's always the group that you're in that's right if you notice that and that's the one that your parents raised you as and that's the one that your city was like what are you talking about. `Bout mystery is everyone's right but religion someone fudged the punch and now we all threw it away but I don't want you to believe what I believe. I do not want you to believe what I believe I do. I don't give a fuck. If you agree with me who cares. It's just another clout. I agree with great. I want you to be transformed. Why because that's where pieces? I'm talking about like now. Your anxiety goes away now when you change how you identify with yourself do you think the your views have shifted and evolved also because of being married avow having a kid are you. Do you feel change from these. I think that's a beautiful question. I thank you people I have in your special title teamster beautiful questions but it's still you stealing a pie in parentheses sweetie yeah having a baby it does change everything because I see something that hasn't learned who she is yet and yet she is and I find that very therapeutic to be with somebody that isn't a lot of us are going around especially at this festival. I have a little path that says Pete Holmes and it has my photo on my face. Here's another one if you WANNA see that one and we're just kind of Ramda's would say we're selling our suits. Yeah we're wearing these meat puppets and then we go around and going like you're that one. If you see amy as this one right here that one I'm a serious person your your southern person or whatever it is and we just kind of go around reaffirming the illusion to one another by baby has no has nothing to sell. She doesn't know her race gender. which is no where she's from? She has no believes she's not thinking in thoughts and yet she is. That's what I think. The mystery is is pure unencumbered awareness and still in you baby. You is still in you like bat. pureness is still in you and you can find little ways to shut off your mind and tap into and hanging out with a baby. I can't see a baby and not want to go and hang out with it because that is the greatest teacher. was that like that before. It was a little bit I look at me. I'm down I've always had I always wanted to have kids but when I met vow this is gonna be sweet. Do you have a button that you push the button and Eddie. I met the needs to be more of this right and I and I'm not being false. I was like I hope the baby. Get some of my stuff but I really wouldn't be disappointed if it's just a yeah that's how I feel about. Jack's too and she I don't we we've been having this conversation on the podcast actually the last few weeks kids keeps coming up and she's a kindergarten teacher. She would be an amazing amazing mother <hes> but we both are on the fence about it. We both don't know you know we didn't have that like we've always wanted to be a parent thing but now we're getting his age where everyone's like when you get married when you having kids and we don't know Oh and we're always like someone tell us what to do and and we're still gonNA. I think you'll know I don't mean to sound too much like an old woman in a movie but you'll old old women in movies a wise in Iraq and j you know the winds will blow your no and then I die I would never it's not a it's not a vacation and it's not a new car. It's it's it's a thing that val and I both sync up and just knew that we wanted to do and it's true. You spend a lot of time going like. How did we ever think that we wouldn't do this at the time when we were like I think anybody especially if you have like an exceptional life you're like let's just have French toast the rest of our lives and that is some a lot ninety nine percent of my friends are going French toast? Yeah we love French toast. Yeah that's US breath and then valid. I mean like I used to sleep on average nine and a half hours. That's what I would really like. I'm a nine and a half. I always would blame it on my size and now even I'm on your side was just like it just got bigger computer. It takes a while to shutdown tall. It takes a while to boot up but now even here in Montreal. I I'm away from the family. I can sleep as long as I wake up after seven hour. I'm just you just change but what they don't tell you. Here's what no one I felt like told me is like you might be losing your mind. There's a period where the baby like four weeks or so where you're just getting up every hour and a half to feed the baby and you're going crazy but what they don't tell you is that you're in love. You're in desperate like I remember being very sleep deprived and the baby would cry and it's your favorite thing. There's a fucking miracle and it's not a miracle in the way that you know Martha Stewart noticed tossing a salad and talking about the miracle of Mantis which is what Miracle Whip is. It's an miracle that nobody has to explain to you. You biologically and I would say spiritually just go like you're excited to see the baby. You want the baby on you and I know there are people there are people that have older children and they're like yeah. Enjoy it now and I'm like fuck yourself. I there's too many people out there that are like. Are you want to go to Hawaii. Enjoy the flight it's like. Did you say that there's a layover hope you don't get a middle see like your life is a middle seat and I'm in Hawaii right now. That's the difference. It doesn't like. The baby is an extension valid. I talk about the baby as people go like G. Love the baby more than your wife. The people think in those terms this is brain stuff. It's head stuff. The baby is my wife is me. This doesn't always go. I remember they were doing an ultrasound on my baby on the baby in the doctor which is kind of a Weirdo and he was like there's here's the vagina and he goes. Sorry doubt I bet you don't want another man looking at your daughter's Regina. Oh God big Ira I know Jesus and I and I was obviously I'm seeing a real life image of my my daughter and I'm getting a different feel from the situation but it what I was saying didn't make sense. I remember because I went. That's my vagina like I know that doesn't make sense. I don't mean I don't mean that in a patriarchal. That's my giant like all right Jimmy. No I mean it's my vagina. That's my body in the same way not an ownership way in like a trans rational. Let me I don't see a separation. This is why parents would die for their kids. It's you you die for yourself and that's when they're talking about a love that you can't really understand otherwise and that and that's also where we're full circle. That's why as a comedian. Everything's Pete Holmes this with Pete Holmes. Can we sell this would beat homes. Pete Holmes was gonNA write this Pete Holmes will be there at eight. Whatever here's something that Pete Holmes would jump in a fucking volcano for and that gives you balance and equanimity and peace? It's not guaranteed aide though I know a Lotta dumped shifts that have kids and none of this volcanoes maybe they would just because it's an ego trip and they're like when I die. I'll look good so what I'm saying is. I'm not selling a baby right you. I really think it's something that comes is in a as the quakers would say still quiet voice. That's going to be like you'll know again. I'm an old woman in a movie of that about you though I know where the elders I don't know any old women that are going to be like you gotta pay eighty. You're right on the right track. I think you're very much on the right track selfishly. I'd love to see you guys have a baby but that's just me yeah. She would really be the most awesome mom I mean obviously <hes> we're in a situation situation. Where if we want to have a baby we have to really want a baby? It can't just be an oopsy right situation so a lot of thoughts will go into this. I would love a little fortune. <hes> you're very sweet very sweet but I peeked at five and I only want a baby to have my personality of this point aw but if you're up for I would love for people to be able to ask a couple questions for that. Does anyone have any questions that you would like to ask Pete or any of us. We have twenty minutes so one question yes. What is your push thought? That too is getting sperm. This is actually the whole raisin. Why are we have to do this? Sincerely Fortune. I wanted an audience being here. When we present Pete with the question of Sperm uh-huh? I'm being very sincere feel about long babies. We love a long long. My baby is off the charts. How old is she's not? Even percentile could be like one hundred hundred percent satellite off the chart. She's she's seven foot all baby eleven question. You know I liked it. I liked it. How would you do it? That's a personal how would we do ah handles get spoiled with hanging out with Comedians and that's a question that you'd be like no one in their right mind would be how you doing. You know what I mean but this community just get ready to say. It's is Robert Kelly with the bear bag in the food. You just want to say for sure thing. We just say yes you right there sir. Here's the Mike it's coming in hot mic. I caught my hi hi. Hi Seriously. Would you consider the intercourse with Jackie style. We want to call handmaid's tale my name's of fortune I we're now of beats by God your son of the question question for all three of you the threesome so let's be that's what we are will be titled Threesome. I have to call aw start with Jacks and let me go to fortunate who are the Comedians that inspire you. Well clearly fortune T- oh look at that that is the partner of is this. It is who is in the room say them while when I met Fortune I wasn't into comedy but she's converted me. One hundred percent. I'm a big fan of Wanda Sykes and Cat Williams Williams so we really was not comedy follower. I like watching this special but now. She's going on. She's been going on the road with she. Subbing this this year and Jackson's been amazing and she's been touring with me and now she's like. I've got a note for your jokes. I'm like Whoa we're. We're at that point now but it's awesome home. She usually rolls her eyes ex like it's not a good note and then I'll listen to her set the next weekend. I'm like Oh my no. I'll take tags wherever I can get them for me. I grew up watching <unk> on reruns of the Carol Burnett Show with my grandmother and I didn't realize what a huge influence she was on maybe she is you know like with her monologues very much stand up and she had the sketches and then the end she would take questions which is a lot of Improv and basically my career has been sketch Improv stand up and I didn't realize that she really influenced that and then I also grew up on S._N._l.. So I was coming through when Adam Sandler and Chris Farley and <hes> Molly Shannon <hes> really emulated a lot of physical comedy that big silly over the top stuff they really influence that what about you be. I Love Brian Regan does anybody when I was hosting new faces. I was like Jesus. Brian Brian Regan would've black and tore it down yeah. I was proud of myself but I always like what would Reagan do. He's so good and not everybody knows him and then seat Martin as a standup. I think is fantastic. Those are the only albums that I have on my phone like the hard downloads because I don't want to be on a plane and not able to listen to them. They still make me laugh. I think one of the most important things for Comedians to know is that it's not about the words it's about a shared now nece and that's what we call timing. It's such a boring word for such a magical adjective thing but timing is hyper listening to an energy in a room in a vibe and the noise is that the audience are making and C.. Martin his jokes are fine. It's not like I think they're like the best jokes in the world. I just think that the way he does them is the x factor that we're talking about. That's what talent is as a comedian like. He has a joke where he's he's singing rambling guy and it's just a song that doesn't really have a melody and he keeps asking the audience to sing with him and like no no one else could do not exactly how he does it. Other people could do it but he's just like. What are you people uptight and it's so funny yeah? They're what I call playground beds. Some people just have perfect. They shoot a bullet into the crowns perfect joke. He's building the playground and then he plays on it and that's why I think he is probably one of my and then bill Burr is incredible yeah any such a generous guy always a sweetheart all the rough and tumble guys are offstage like I made you a cupcake. Yeah I was shocked by that. I was at a common source of the young comic and Bill Watch. My said he came up to me afterwards. He's like I don't want to offend you. Can I give you a tagged here. Please God God yes yeah the fact that he's sat there and took the time to watch a new comic and care enough to help them was really impressive. See when you're doing because I think a lot of the things bill says are technically offensive but when you're you know what I'm saying like especially especially when I go with my wife my wife will be like whoa that's crazy but she gets it. I think you can feel that you can feel that. Bill is being a quote unquote offensive consciously. I heard Seth Rogan say that on Comedians in cars is he's like well. We don't don't like his unconscious offensiveness. If someone's being offensive on purpose like the thriller the Titillation of it is that you're sort of saying the thing you're not supposed to say and we're kind of exercising our shadow selves unlike delighting in the darkness that we all share but don't show that's a beautiful thing but if you're just being a fucking asshole that sucks so of course bill burr is a sweetheart you know what I mean. He's a dad he's a husband and he's generous comic and then he can get up on stage and I'm like brothers say whatever you want because he's doing it from an want to sound stupid and say woke but he does it from awoke play. Can we say woke not. I know I look like a NARC. Can I say we have five more minutes any anybody else. Yes back there. If you could go back in time to the beginning of your career could you what recommendation you give to young fortune or young pete like starting this comedy career a good question. I've never thought about it. <HES> IF I first of all if I could go back in time third time I've heard you ask that question or we're an episode of a Russian doll. Oh Man I don't know I I don't know that I would do anything different that Kazak who knows where I would've ended up you know if I had gone back and change anything anything I think I started at the groundlings before asserted stand up. I was doing sketching Improv and I definitely would tell that person in my because you're talking about going back to the beginning of my career right. Yeah I would tell struggling yes and you know yeah. She's just like I just really wanted no answer. I would go back and tell myself to enjoy the experience more taken my friendships more because I when you first started comedy you are broke and it's a struggle and it's hard you're getting told no all the time but it's a it's a very specific point in your life where you are with your friends that are comedians and and that's all you're doing is comedy hanging out with friends and there's you laugh harder than you've ever laughed in your life and I would tell myself to just be in that those moments more where I'm not worried about what sketches ages. I'M GONNA get into the show what I have to write just just enjoy the people around me and the that laughter because once you get older and you do having some success then you're more like I got to come up with a name. I'm from my my special. I gotta go the road. I gotta promote gotta be alone. That was one of the things we covered bashing was like you're starting you. Don't I love your answer. 'CAUSE you're starting. You don't realize that it sucks but it's also like the greatest time because you're with all these friends. It's a very social yeah and then you make it and they're you're on the road and you're by yourself and it's like Oh shit. I wish I had enjoyed the struggle more. Even though it sounds like you did a little bit night I did for sure but you know you just want to be like you're GONNA be okay. You know that you have to have that like let's let's just assume we'll be okay yeah and you can enjoy it but would you. What would you go back and I was just go to the great advice that I did get? It's not exactly answering your question but it is the advice that I got will bill Burr said don't be a Dick back yeah and he said keep your head down which means like I see this a lot with every generation of young comedians. There's always people that are expecting something and they're comparing themselves to the other people. They got this. They got this. I didn't get anything so keep your head down and the other thing is undeniable. That's what Jim Gavin told me. I was very lucky to open for these great people. Wow that's very they're just be undeniable especially at a place like Montreal where you're like. I still well not really but when I was when I used to come I would feel like so overlooked. It was like just get to the point where like no one can ignore you just that funny that no one can ignore you and then the other thing that I said which which is like it's not about the words if I'm about to bomb. It's because I'm trying to remember words to a Joe. I'm trying to remember like how do you start <hes>. Where do I put the MIC? That's not about that everything in life. That's like planning having sex like what are you know and I apologize for notes later Luke elsewhere her but I think what people respond to in any field is a certain degree of presence and I think that's what art is if you look at like Van Gogh painted chair. Why is that so valuable Eckhart totally point? He's like the painting of the chair share is worth so much more than the chair as because somebody actually took time to really observe a chair then they communicated what a chair looks like in its full cheering us. You know what I mean. People like. This is the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen because he communicated what what happens when you're still and you see share to similarly. I saw myself this morning. I was like you know I'm in Montreal. I have my show tonight. I'm going to take it seriously. I'M GONNA listen to some audio of some sets. I've been doing take some notes and some new jokes I've been working and I was like now repeat. Don't plan where you're going to kiss and how you're GONNA touch. Let that audience tell you. Where are they and find that it's not about the word? It's not about opening. It's not about how you close. That's that's what I was telling the new faces. I was like the crowds were getting tired. I was like just communicate who you are and I. It sounds stupid but it's true. It's like it doesn't matter if you didn't like crush because the craftsman watching nine hours of comedy were you you did you stand your ground and present not to be cheesy but your light the way that you shine then you killed yeah and that's advice that I have to take really. That's really right really cool waiting. I've never thought about that yeah yeah. Oh that's awesome. All our time is up. I can't believe it sincerely sincere podcast with going. I don't know we've had a lot of fun. We've learned a lot and I love you all sincerely.

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Embarrassing Moments with Sarah Baker

In Bed with Nick and Megan

1:05:01 hr | 3 months ago

Embarrassing Moments with Sarah Baker

"Right now on Earl's in celebration of fifty episodes. How did this get played is teaming up with? How did this get made to talk about street fighter? The video game this time for more follow at Your Wolf on twitter and instagram happy listening. RODEO! Ruder North American's largest plumbing drain and water cleanup provider has been saving animals from hard to reach places for years. During these uncertain times Rota Ruder is committed to your safety. There's zero context service means they'll keep a safe distance where facemasks boot covers disposable gloves and other protective gear along with washing hands and disinfecting touch points per CDC guidelines. You can learn more at row. Ruder, dot com slash pet, rescues or call one eight hundred get Rodeo for emergency service. You can listen to add free new episodes of in bird with Nick and Meghan the famous mini series. I mean podcast. Only on stitcher premiums refree month hit me thirty days of stitcher premium go to stitcher premium dot, com, laver name for the site and use Promo Code. In bed. Or is it say? because. The podcast is called nine. Oh in bed right because the podcast. so. Anne how? Fees. Asked. Hello and welcome to yet another. Unforgettable installment of your favorite podcast in bed with Nick and Megan. Starring Nick Offerman Good Evening Megamall Mulally. Good evening. and. Just today only and for in perpetuity online. The gorgeous hilarious. Talented and good at being friends, Sarah Baker. Yeah I'm run that's this guy. Think since since we know so. Know we can just really let our hair down and. Let it all hang out. Fanfare ended with a cannon yeah. Mel About in and post look. Foley sounds correct. Hi, Sarah. Hi. How are you does during these the end of days I know we are. Probably just like everybody else, right? Seeing and Plan with our dogs season. Not that everybody dogs. And you know trying to. Deal right yeah. I've never I've never wanted a dog more than right now. We're very grateful that we have. Pets. Oh. You don't have a dog now. I'm allergic to everything. It really really stinks. Remember highs to make fun of your screen on your back door. The same by the way. Wasn't very nice. It was hilarious did also make fun of my lawn. At the time was very back. Do is really weedy. You opposed in x years of like a cat outside. The doors like this crappy screen. Like part of its falling off. Weedy your. No, be like! Wow, that is quite a setup. You've got going over there. Family knows great now. You're on a series. Jonah Gardener. I. Mean I drive a two thousand Honda Civic. Super Chief today. Not No, not you sheep. I'm I would call more lazy. Procrastinating but I will say when it comes to cars. I don't really care about cars so. I'm sure it would be nice to have a new car though even if I had A. A new crappy car would still be better because I can't like. Listen to like podcast I. Listen to the radio. I listen to NPR. Yeah I. Mean I literally can't I can't do anything I can't make a phone call. That's amazing. What kind of car is it? Did you so yeah, Honda Civic? Thousand, I couldn't dependable ride. Thank you. It is a lot of miles on that Honda. Download or no longer fully. Exactly how many miles? Then there's. The always like I. I lived in Atlanta before I moved here and my whole life and Atlanta was in literally like a five mile. Radius where I worked in the theater where I worked in my house. So I never put a lot of miles on it. Anyway it's pretty. I never go anywhere unless I'm getting paid to do so so I never have miles I've never really had a car. That had a lot of miles on it. I don't think maybe as you know you may twenty s or something. Yeah I'm. Total Shamas Sheldon. I know I do feel like in some ways I'm very prepared for this moment, because doesn't actor. For one thing I. Probably don't work more than I work. at least in general. So I'm used to being home, it's definitely weird not to like. Be Able to see her friends and stuff but. In, your is a writer, he said, go ahead with find very impressive. Yeah, he's a poet and a teacher, so he's. He teaches at UCSB, so he's. They actually just started back today. They were on spring break, but He's able to do that. You know from here now weirdly so. Please here. Yeah, he's used to being here to Robert. Has burks. He does have books. Yeah, Robert Credit K. R.. Ut He has a book called the ocean. He has a book called SPIDERS, sermons, and his latest book is called. Oh God was called the now dark sky, setting us all on fire. ooh, yeah. Yeah he did Suzanne Part It's very doomsday, and it was all written. I mean was written after trump got elected mostly so against that was. But. Like not quite so plane as it is now. And well I have been bad and naughty, and I don't have any of his books, but I'm GonNa fix that. You, I'm to remedy that because I don't have any of his books. I should send you. Well I. Don't want you know coming out and saying that. You're the. Man for US letting you. Should send US money links and those books. Yeah, that's how it works so. Sarah! You guys probably are dear. Listeners will know her from. The KAMINSKY method? She has been on for low. These many seasons woody. Three seasons now right just to. We're supposed to do well I shouldn't say we're supposed to do. We might do at third, but it was already kind of up in the air. Shut the third one now, yeah! You're right and thinking that we would have because normally. We would have been doing it the beginning of the year, but it just didn't happen because. Schedule conflicts and I don't know Steph. The people of higher pay grade know about, but my gosh and then global, pandemic and pandemic. Yeah, yeah, Oh, well well. It's a great show you're on it. You gotta restored for that show. Yeah! We got something we got. We got a golden globe. Get a he gotta saga warned I feel like I should know Michael Douglas Kata Saigo Award for sure. Yeah, we didn't get a SAG award. Cause I would have had moved up there. Remember when I hosted, and you're sitting at the table. Right in the front. We kept like winking and waving. Everybody was like. How do you know make the Lao I was like I know people you've discovered me I, but I I really did discover. Because I saw you on. Of Kath and Kim with Molly Shannon. And like who is that girl they must know. And, so I wrote your name down, and then not that long after that maybe a couple of years later you or on this show that I did that wasn't great on ABC called in the Motherhood. And I was so happy to see you because I'd been. unprofessionally stocking you and. And then. Amateur stocking you I guess I should say I don't now. There's professional stalking, but I'm not think I was doing that. There's there is professional. Actually Nick had hired me to stalk you, so I guess I was held shortly. That's for sure professional. and then. And then they went happen next. Yes, please. While okay so I had met Megan doing her show. And, I had like a coast are part had a tiny part. And You had just. I get a little. You had just seen me on captain, Kim. Aired fairly recently before that and your buds, obviously with molly, so you are watching every episode, Catherine Kim and And you're so nice way. The whole day we were shooting because there was I had a tiny part. But you super nice to me all day, and you're like you know. Link got my phone number that day and I was like. This is crazy because I was such a giant fan of yours going into that day and then. You went I. don't even know if you remember this, but you. Apparently because my friend anti-malaria road on that show right and she like called me and was like Megan. Molly came into the writer's room and was like Hey, that girl Sarah, who played? The nanny was really good like it'd be fun to have her back sometimes, so they immediately wrote me back in, so I got to come to another episode. Remember doing it. And, then that this was in like goes. Some free books from. and. Then it gets even better, and then that summer I had been in an episode of the office that I think you just happened to watch. And, so then this is a phone call I get. Personnel just that. You called me I was. Thing! 'cause we weren't really friends yet. We had just met and I was still more in the fan category. And Megan was like hey. They're looking for people. They're looking for women for Saturday night live. Do you mind if I call? SNL and to recommend you. Like I guess I don't mind you do. Diddly fricking went to New York and auditioned for us and Al.. Insane who does them? They should have cast you. They're dumb. Dummies. Who is so good? Was Vanessa Bayer Yeah Early Bryant? Vanessa Eighty and who else I think I think that year was Vanessa on Terron. Who I'm friends with? Who so much great talent? I can't keep them straight. So wait a minute all right so those things happen. That was good and then. A really cool, the coolest thing that happened was you did an episode of. The great ill-fated show Louis. Now came quite. It was called Fat Lady Right. It was called Yes, something like that, so the VAT lady or It mean done an old joke, but now I care on. I something like that, so did the fatty or something, and so you did that episode. The whole episode basically was you Louis? C. K. Pretty much thought was right. and. So it became a huge thing, and then yes, so did the Fat Lady's the name of it. That's exactly right. and. It became a big thing and then the next thing. I know little mill friend Sarah Baker is on A. Front of the New York Times Arts and Leisure section giant picture of you. And a big interview with you boom. It was looking dreamily bonkers. Yes, so what tell me about that episode? It was so good. You are so great and at and thanks. You know from I know that because we ladies who? Many of us! Do Comedy, don't we always just have to play giant characters on television, and or in whatever And never get to play normal people especially if we don't look like you know. Julia Roberts or something? Yeah, and we're just relegated to these character roles and comedy, and then here you are suddenly getting to play. A normal person and Thirty solid minutes of YOU and Louis CK. Of talking about deep things, and it was just so good, so. Just, a little bit about them. Yes, it was. It was cast by Felicia Fasano and. But Pam Avalon his best was there also because she lives out here in the audition was out here and You know she obviously was working with Louis at the time so They wouldn't give us the sides in advance, so we basically just show up. And then they gave you time to like work on it, but it was the sort of monologue, which is what that bestowed ends with which is this? It's a scene between Louis and I, but it's mainly this woman. Kind of. kind of going off on Louis about like. Men and women and relationships and why men think that like. like why somebody like him. With think he shouldn't date somebody that looked like me. And you know I. Mean Louis You know Jesus. What's his name that guy, but to his credit with artistically anyway, I will say that you know a lot of people. Gave me a lot of credit for the episode, but it was. It was all his words you know. He wrote it and I think Felt like you know an unattractive fat person, or whatever, in his life to so he kind of brought that to this role but But yeah, it was We're used to I'm so used to especially at that time, so used to being like the come in doable, wise crack, and then leave you know to get. Just to say that many words host Kevin Never said anywhere near the many words in. Anything you now and yeah, it was it was It was amazing to feel like I, you know. You got the opportunity to lake. To show a little bit more of what it could do like you said that you know to be play a whole person and not to play really a stereotype of a person either wasn't like she was like. You know often in comedy I'm playing like I'm she's single, because of course she's single and she has a hundred cats, and you know is super awkward and Weird or whatever So! It's Nice Nicer. Just play a woman who was like. Normal, yeah, maybe overweight, but like confident cute. Funny, you know drilling smartest like you are in real life. The life you know happily married and. Yeah? Yeah So, yeah, it was a cool thing. The other fun thing about the new. York Times thing you were talking about is I had just gotten fired from her job like the week before and. And then they were having up fronts in New York I knew that like. The people that fired me were there and like would see that. So good, he shouldn't have fired. Maybe they didn't think that at all, but. Yeah that's satisfying. Buying. When you were describing auditioning for the. The episode I was picturing something more along the lines of curb your enthusiasm where you're sort of given like an online and you, and then for the audition you improvise with Larry, or whoever the character that you're dealing with this, but then by the end of your story. I was like Oh. No, no, that's right. Louis wrote the show. It was a restricted show. It wasn't an improvised show. So that's I've never talked to somebody who worked on that show. That seems weird that you wouldn't receive material. Is it was a secrecy thing, it was a secret thing. Yeah, I think I. Don't know if that's the way that show operated all the time I. Don't think they auditioned for that. Show that much. I think a lot of times. He just probably cancel your cast people. He knew or and they cast mostly out of new. York, so I think they just hadn't found exactly what they had in mind. So that's why I even got a chance to audition for it here. In La. and I did get to improvise like once. We not not so much in that last scene, but in other. Parts in fact, there was a good lesson for me in. I didn't realize until I was there, but I had this thing in my head. That like because I. Think of myself obviously as an actor, not as like a comedian exactly. And you know Louis is like a stand up comedian. He writes I mean. He's spinout. It's stories, but he writes jokes essentially. I don't think of myself as like that Kinda like Bam we shouldn't. I don't know if you can tell from listeners. Person but. So I felt really nervous weirdly about trying to be funny in front of Louis because I thought well. That's GonNa just I'M GONNA. Look like an idiot because I'm not funny like that. You re seeing the honey while. Thank you, but there is a scene where it was like. They didn't even use actually. It was Ed Norton, and I was it was he was playing himself, and I was not Ed Norton. Now. What that not nobody was that episode? okade at Burns. Him, So he was supposed to be there, and he was playing himself and I was supposed to be like flirting with him, and we end up kissing stuff. Just totally like just as a waitress I'm just were just having fun. and. And the camera they had shot my side and I was just. It wasn't it was just like in a be a moment really to see Louis react seeing this woman so we were just normal, and then a camera was on him, and he was like will just make me laugh and I was like okay, so then I started getting like kind of dirty and just being stupid, because I knew the camera wasn't on me, and it was just for him. And then he was like God damn it. Why didn't you do that? What the care for was on you? and Luckily it was like a three-man banned. It was like a very limited crew and stuff, so they just turn the camera around and shot it again. I was really yeah. It was it was a good lesson for me in like look. You're there for a reason like you know. Don't don't try to make yourself small to fit. What you think is supposed to be happening here. You know. Yeah, that's good. That's a good one good lesson. will and then. So. That was a huge thing. I mean that was a huge KINDA OF A. It was great for everyone and I mean he's great for women in general and men, but is great for you right? Yeah, yeah, it I mean I think to know. Nick has now left the podcast. Did he just break up with? Me Or bill getting a divorce. Pretty sure that means he said something. goes out with a whimper instead of a bang out. While they're. Doing with it, yeah, that was a quick break up after twenty years. Is GonNa. He's back. To? Reconcile. I knew it'd be bad. Noise wasn't even that worried. He Neck, did you? Question for me. Who Do, you call when your cat dog or another four-legged friend gets stuck in a storm, sewer or narrow, indoor or outdoor space. Yeah! That's right. But Let. Are we talking about then well? There's a lot of people that can't call me in that situation okay. 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What else have you heard? I guess apparently Steve Carell plays decorated pilot with dreams of running. The airforce seems like awfully ambitious dreams, but in any case he's thrown for a loop when he finds himself tapped by the White House to lead a new branch of the US armed forces called space for well. Do you like? Do you work for the show because you know a lot about it already? What else? Missed just a blurb. He's this. His character's name is mark. Which is key key? Intel mark is skeptical, but dedicated. He uproots his family moves to a remote base in the middle of Colorado of all places where he and a colorful team of scientists and quote unquote spaceman. Seems like a sort of dated sexist term. Say Space Persons. They're tasked by the White House with getting American boots on the moon again in a hurry to achieve total space dominance once again. What else! EXCITES got an incredible cast with. Actors like Lisa Kudrow. Ben Schwartz, Cosi Anna Silvers Tony. Jimmy o Yang can be better and exciting and comer named John Malkovich and familiar. Season when I I happen to know the season one is includes ten thirty minute episodes I. Call Him APPS. Three hundred minutes of God Delicious Space Force comedy. Wait once once. The show is launched a fun fact you'll want to know. Is That Ben? Schwartz and Greg Daniels wanted to make sure. Schwarz's character was very different from his famous character John Ralph Izzo on parks and REC and they worked to differentiate physically look. By shortening his hair and making sure he's always wearing a suit, so no one will ever associated him with John Ralph Izzo because he got a haircut long. Hairs everything. Space Force starring Steve Carell. Premieres may twenty ninth only on Netflix I. PUT ON TV last rest to watch, but you seem to know literally everything about it already you know what? Steve, Carell Lisa Kudrow Great Daniels. Bench Schwartz. fucking haircut can't go on my us up. Also space, force starring Steve Carell is now streaming on Netflix. Okay Sarah so. One of the topics that you got we could discuss. Today was embarrassing moments. So I'm intrigued because that means that you must have embarrassing moments and I wanNA. I haven't abundance of embarrassing Moment Gig. I mean I feel like I feel like you are probably the same way where some of the embarrassing things that happen in terms of like. Like jobs or the industry, actually even within feeling the shame. I am also laughing at how funny it is in the moment. You, know what I mean as opposed to like the stuff that happens to you and your thirteen, where it's not funny at all in the moment and only later like. Now sometimes happens. And I'm just like. Oh Wow. This is really embarrassing for. All Areas Zappala All, right, tell us one. Okay. I actually yes, I did an episode office. and. I was nervous I had I had worked but I. hadn't I don't feel like I'd done a ton up until that point and this was a show like I actually watched. You know so. It felt like crazy to be like. That I was going to be on it and. Now when I had had a weird thing, the day that we were shooting where I. Like my SAG, I hadn't officially joined Sag yet, and they were kind of like. You might not be able to join in time, and then they'll have to recast you and I was like. You know when actor like it just starting and you finally get something in like Oh. Yeah, they're casually Kinda like. You might get to do this part. You know you freak out so anyway already had. A day. Herald Ramos's directing. It was Brown dog day which I kept saying to people and nobody care, too. I was like, but he did the movie and it is groundhog we're here with. Like okay. She keeps saying going again. Back to one. So it was a scene, so I was like playing the delivery nurse for Jim and pay 'EM, and they're having their baby, their first baby and And they were you know. It's an important scene for their characters. So there was a lot of discussion about like balancing sort of the comedy of it, but also having be able to be a tender moment for them, and so there was a lot of. You know coming at me and like even sometimes just re ordering. So I was you know I was like? Definitely at the height of my like anxiety, but you know I was okay. and. We're getting ready to roll on the scene in. We. Just I sort of felt very tenuously like I understood. What was going to happen in the scene? And all of a sudden mayhem, this feeling. Dear listeners like I had to pass went. And I was like I could tell you know this. This isn't too gross for you guys, but you know you can tell like this. This is going to happen. This is not like. This is not one that I can squeeze back into my. Gate, it's in the foyer. Yeah, it's actually it's going to happen. And I knew it wasn't going to. It was it would just be like up like that? It wouldn't be like. Massive! At the same time I literally like okay. You know rolling cameras and I was like. If I. Far. Enough. I will. I will turn into action dot. Says that has captured with. John Krasinski Herrell Ramos's director. You know all. So, I had to make the decision that I was like. Just one second, and I marched away where on like a hospital set I like marched as just as far away as I could get as quickly as I could get, but there was tons of extras all dressed in link patient gear and I just literally marched. farted marched right back. Like a psychotic person like all the people. Were just probably. Doesn't her? They've really knew a you're doing since he'd came right back. What else would you have been doing I? Mean everybody knew. Let's face it. I mean I was my act, and not that it was so loud, but It was I basically looked to anybody like I. Like marched two-way, farted on a bunch of background artists and then. What you did though that is. I do. I mean. Actually it was probably not that big of a deal because a lot of That's something that we do to background artists to let them know. It's like. A dog marking the yard Tori. You Chris Pratt Usta. They didn't. Lately walkaway they were in a competition to see who could fire the longest allowed us to report on camera. Nikolas, like a farting in John. The horrible, the the the best one we did was right at the end of parks and REC I think it was an episode where it was. Everybody was having their. Party All the guys were together and at one point so that it's a Me Pratt Z's Scott Rob. and Jim O'hare standing in a tight circle and we're. Ozzy's is like laying out some plan or something. And I you know gleefully just ripped A. Massive high-volume ripper and within like. Half, a second trat harmonized with it and came in with like. superheroes Sephardic. And we. said. How did you do that? He said. I didn't my body. Just answer your like heard. Thank cats. Wolves howling. A. Was Amazing. So funny. Really Good Joe Nick. His gas extends to way beyond just pranks on set. I am almost always the reluctant recipient again loves a good joke, but A. For future reference. That, that is amazing because it is mortifying to imagine being in that situation. But now that you've established yourself as a A. Woman of gravity to be taken seriously as a performer next time. Let it fly and wink at somebody. was a powerful performance. Enough I would ever be that person. I'm trying to think of embarrassing stories. I can think of a cop two or three. One of them was. Gosh this this one is embarrassing and I also feel really bad about it like it's. It's embarrassing. Slash heartbreaking in terrible. I was leaving I. Don't know I think it was the Golden Globes or something. One year I had gone. Nick wasn't there that ear and I had gone to the after party with current O'Brien and his wife Liza Brian. and. We were getting ready to leave and. They said we'll wait here and they were gonNA. Go you know seem where the car was, and so I was Kinda waiting nearby and. Jeremy Irons was waiting nearby and. I never met him, but he was very nice I. I must say I was You know this was. Back during this fifteen years ago, or something and I was wearing some kind of low cut dress and I. Don't think he was entirely UN. Interested in me as a man can be interested in a woman I don't I'm not saying he was going to ask me to marry him, but I think there was an teeny element of that because it was a very long conversation. So. We're standing there and. How he got on the subject, but I said that my favorite classic. Piece of literature was Lolita which yes, that's a whole other conversation and He said Oh well. Did you see? Have you seen the the films and I said Yeah I said I I love Love the original with James Mason. I don't know what happened. I was in a weird, says he have in where my brain wasn't functioning correctly in that moment, and I didn't remember that he literally played. Humbert Humbert the remake. which came out around two thousand or in the nineties reasoning, so he played that the lead in. A remake of Malaysia and I said I really didn't like. It was just like it was just cook cracker in Hafer like his cute little, sweet face just. Just like Collab- stick, and he seems so unhappy and I thought Gosh, why does he why is he? None, why is he? I mean he might have liked the remake better. Wisey so upset about it and then. Like. I don't even know I realized I think while we were still staying there together Oh. Like right. Then I realized Oh shit like that was his movie, and so I was like I mean I really I like. A lot I mean I. I loved it. It was great I. loved it loved it loved it, but they're just. Maybe there's something about the original. I don't even know. Situation. You can't because what I should have done is say oh my. I mean. What are you going to say like? I. Sorry, I'm Sorry I. Just, now realized year, the lead movie killers. There's nothing you can do. 'cause then it's even worse. It's like you didn't even remember what. It was horrible will stop those awful about us. Because really you're just being brutally honest, and that's what he knew he was like. She doesn't realize it's Mesa. She's just giving her honest opinion that that movie some. Well, you know. Yeah because it wasn't that, it was terrible. It was that I just like the other one better and I, since that's my favorite book, I have strong opinions about it, but also I just didn't realize talking to him. Of course, it was him. So that was super, super duper embarrassing and One crazy I've done. I have another one. That's similar to that. which is I was leaving the Tony's all after award shows, apparently I was leaving the Tony's and I had been presenting. And Nick. Nick was there with me and again it's all at the valet parking. I was standing there. Waiting could gun to get the car and. I was just thinking Oh. My God I did it I got in, and now without like some horrible incident. Like putting my mouth and I'm standing there waiting and this. Really lovely young blonde. Actress comes up to me and says Oh my God. I can't believe I'm meeting you I am your biggest fan. You're so blah. Blah! Blah on, and on just being so nice and saying the nicest things, and I was like that is so nice of you to say Oh, my gosh well. I'm a big fan of yours, too. I said I really loved you in that movie and I named a movie and she's. A pies and her whole face, just like turned into an iceberg, and she said that was Julia Stiles, and it was Claire Danes who are actually talking to, and they have both presented, and they're both wearing red dresses or something. She was like well. She's a really good friend of mine, but. That's truly styles and I was like. And then I, son. You'd like to think that if somebody is your biggest fan that it could survive that pretty. Mistake because you know. I hate to say it, but. Young Blonde actress Yang. Come on, so. Not Intentional know. What else do you have other embarrassing? What's Your Embarrassing Story Nicholas? I I mean because I. Am Bit of Claude. I have had i. it's hard for me to feel embarrassed because when I do something clumsy or make a misstep is. Already halfway to like Oh of course. Thanks good to see you all. See Myself Out But I was been thinking about it and I guess I was pretty embarrassed when. We were living in Seattle because Meghan was in the Broadway production of the musical young Frankenstein, and they did a couple of months in Seattle before moving it to Broadway. And from these New York people the Broadway people in the show. I found out that they were doing a production of my favorite, Harold Pinter play. The birthday party or the homecoming. Homecoming I think. It was with Ian McShane and eve best, and it was going to be on Broadway and I said Oh my God that I desperately. Want to audition for this play and so. I had my. Like we. Jumped through several hoops. They refused to see me. And I. I mean the this is before parks and REC. Eight thousand eight, so. Unknown! But like but I. had done some stuff I mean. should be able to get an audition for. A play. So finally. Agreed to let me like fly myself in an audition for their play so I did. and. Like as soon as I started my first scene, he laid his head down on his arms like foreheads. That is whole forehead down on his arms on the table, and not even I mean I hadn't even done anything. It wasn't a reaction to me being so terrible or something right, he was like I. Don't even I'm going to take? I'm going to take a nap because this doesn't matter. And that. Was Incredibly humiliating and I'm sure I was perfectly mediocre like when and Land. How do you know on after that I imagine even I don't know. That the situation was there had somebody picked out or whatever, but then the don't see me. It was it was really horrible? Well, a lot of things like that I find where. There is that just I. Don't know there's like the physiological response of those moments where you do feel like deep shame, and especially as actors I think sometimes you're like. Oh, Yep, just what I suspected. They know I'm terrible. But then later you're like wait no rude. My That's not on me. That's on them. Yeah, absolutely I had one other thing when I was in my early twenties, living in Chicago, and just doing a lot of theatre. And I was sealing a lot of musicals and. Every once in a while I do a play, but it was like a light comedy. You know and so. I don't know why I decided to do it, but I decided to audition for Shakespearean play, that was it was a rap company. It was like a summer stock. You know like a rap company. That was doing shakespeare. And so I had never. Done Shakespeare and I had never auditioned for a Shakespearean play in. So I prepared my autism and I thought okay. So what kind of aware? That looks shakespearian where they're gonNA? Think Oh my God. Like where's she been all our lives? And so I I picked up this white blouse some In this long. Grey skirt and I thought. Holy Shit when they see me. They're GONNA be like. You'RE GONNA Castro. Even on audition based outfit alone and so I get there and you know there's a bunch of people there and waiting and waiting and then I. Ran into the bathroom. Go to the bathroom, and then just as I'm coming out of the bathroom. The casting director Rose Lake Are you magazine Yeah Ashes okay. We're ready for you so I like okay so I go in and I. Do my monologue and I think all snap. That shit and I turn on a hill with a flourish, and I start prancing out of the room, and they're all sitting behind a long table you know. And I hear. Megan and I'm thinking now. They're gonNA offer me the part like on the spot. And I turn around. They're like your skirt tucked into the back of your android. No. Entire. Oh. My crazy lollipop underpants. flapping in, the wind. Out of my Shakespearean addition. Truly embarrassing thing that I can remember happening in that context. Literally showing your ass. Feel Spiritually Lakers showing our us, but you. Actually. Do for living absurd selves in the most emotionally Vulnerable Position Day Day in and day out, yeah! So. Let's talk about what trashy television shows were watching right now. I need a feels ubiquitous, even Sabo. We did just finish tiger king. Now. So good right. It was yeah I mean it was definitely. I think I think I knew what I was in for a little bit in the sense of. Those kinds of shows to be that people are like Oh my God so fun and crazy I'm like. Very dark and depressing to me, but this was like enough of a balance that I was like. It's just a world that I didn't even know existed, so that's a lot of what was so interesting about it. But. It's you know. Yeah, I had we. Idea that there were these little. Amateur Zoos never heard before. So crazy. Or that there were that many. Tigers in the United States of America. No idea, the main show that I. Carry with me until the end that we recently watched the second season of in I'm just hoping either that you've seen it or haven't seen. Either one is good. Temptation Island. I have not seen them. I've heard about this. British right, Sarah, run don't walk now. Really No, it's! It's Americano only. The Americans could come up with this sick shit. is so twisted it should be illegal. On a long time ago, visit current. Yeah, maybe. But now it's back. So this is the second season of like it was on ten years ago or longer. Maybe and now it's back, but it's way worse and better. I did see maybe I. Don't think necessarily stuck with the whole thing, but I definitely saw part of it when it was first on. It's it's really good. Please and Robert will think think later. What else you watching. You guys watch survivor Oh. Yeah, Oh, my God! This season is so good so good. I do find like an survivor is one of those shows that even though I love it. I haven't always always watched. I think I watched maybe the first two seasons, and then I think it was like before I had a Dvr and like there was something else, but took priority on that name I. Feel like it was something really embarrassing like maybe America's next top model underneath something. But anyway so it dipped out for a while, but then my friend Michael Snow was on like I think it was. He was on survivor care, moen maybe I don't know, but it was one of those where some of the people were old and somewhere knew. He got. At the stake, but anyway brought me back into. The show. Takes. You back onboard Monin guys I did the same thing. We watched the first few seasons, and then we didn't watch it for one. We start again, but I actually went back. Nick didn't but I went back and watched all the season's. That I had missed and they're all so good. It's really run. It's probably better now because you know all because I do feel like watching this season, even though it's an incredible on its own, but I don't know all of these players I don't know all the INS and outs of what they did on their seasons and. I also like kind of flush rate no-fence, tape, people, but reality show contestants assume soon as the show is over day, just evacuate from my brain. All of them there are few memorable. Yeah, almost all of them. Yeah, but yeah I think that's why reality TV is so good is because it's such great escapist entertainment and you know when you just really WanNa on blog, not think about anything. There's nothing like A. I mean it's also great to be really snobby and love cool. Indeed things! Are things good. Good art and I say. To like watch PBS unlike. Something that I would characterize enriching so that I'm not just watching. All the time. How you survive with any menu, you know you should try and shoot for delicious nutrition often but. Also you gotTA. Cheat and go get some fast food garbage. That's been engineered to bring you pleasure. That doesn't empty calories. You know what they're doing. They know what they're messy right now. I'm like I'm kind of in like full. Whatever gets you through the night mode right now because we're recording this during the time of Corona virus, kiss you guest. Yeah? It's it's hands on deck. Unlike showed like soothing things to like. Do you watch the great British baking show you know. I watched that one I was in London. And I loved it, but I haven't. Yeah. We would do love watching I think in vagaries, or you don't need to be a baker or anything like that now in Europe Sarah Baker. Sarah! I was almost Sara Lee Baker. Because it's name is. Though it had been me about. The top. I was almost Sheila Sheila Mulally. That's not. A Good Sheila. Okay I mean. You're very much a megan, but pull off Shula. Fisher Paul off Sheila. I knew as Sheila is to teach a Paul dancing class. That was quite popular. She was the first to do that so I guess I could've maybe I would have been appalled dancing teacher. Get See. All Sheila's are and most of them are. Let's face it. And then a also going to see in terms of soothing, there's this great app called insight timer. It's a weird name in sight timer and. You ever meditate. I. I have like head space on my phone and I have a friend WHO's doing. Just literally two weeks has been doing like every Sunday at one o'clock like a guided meditation, which I do, like A. I need a guide. I'm not I'm not an expert level to where I can just do it. My premiums go. Yeah, there is no expert level I mean I need to do is just sit with your spine straighten. Focused on your breathing or you know you're gonNA have thoughts. Come in your mind and just let them go back out, but inside. China is really nice because. You can kick a little soundtrack for your meditation, so you can pick you know the ocean or birds, chirping in a tree, or whatever and you then pick your sound, and and then you can set the time that you'd like to meditate for five minutes twenty minutes whatever. And it gives you a little. Nice soothing chimes every two minutes to Kinda. Give you an idea of where you're at and. Also on the same APSO that's Kinda Nice they also have guided meditations that are really great, and but they have tons of them, and then they also have. Just Talks. A variety of people are have given and are giving on. Relaxing spiritual topics, but right now of course a lot of almost everybody's talking about. How to deal with the anxiety of this, and how to not go crazy and that Sarah so I recommend? That's my yeah. Check that out. I also like that. Like. People like Rufus wainwright is doing like. Song, Day Yeah Instagram. Somebody sent me so solemnly ice. I mean he doesn't. He doesn't need to go back and punch anything in. Pitch, is he inside fact he's perfect. Yeah, yeah, he's so good. That's really nice lot of good things like that. I just discovered and this isn't necessarily have to do with. Anything like that, but Molly Shannon actually just tipped me off that if you download the New Yorker APP. Some of their articles are also on audible AU audio South Dea audible and I think so. Like there's this article right now that people are really liking with Sione Apple, and it's also you can listen to it while you're. freaking out whenever you're doing in the moment. And so I'm very excited about that, too. Yeah, I do think it's good right now like. I. Know For me I'm trying to. Canal saying nick about like nourishment like. I'm taking a more active role in trying to like feed myself. Good Things Zeno like. Yeah like. An interesting podcast Music or all these people who are doing these sort of creative things right now, but I think it's good because I think sometimes the we're busy or just doing our normalize. At least for me, I just don't take time for stuff like that. And it's not that I don't have. Twenty minutes to Meditate I. I sure do I just right now. I'm so concerned with not losing my mind that I am actively like feeding myself, so that's cuts a good thing. And something I mean as terrible as this. Time is and scary and sad and horrible some things. That something. Really good will come out of it something that's lasting and that remains to be seen. Maybe a maybe a few things are I'm hoping that at least something of consequence. But. Maybe it will have to do with. With community or with you know just. This rare time of of quietness and stillness. Sparking things in people creativity. Appreciation for little things also. Will Listen Little Mr Baker or my bunny as I call you. And I we, too. We have pretty fun nicknames. Yeah, I was so excited that you came on, and I'm appreciative nicas appreciative that you. Were able to do this today and Lincoln. Just going GonNa call you Sarah Though. That's the You're not part of that and that's that's fine. It's not an ex. It's just something that Mega. School, he has an ignorant bets, it's kind of offensive and I asked him not to. I. Personally, he means turned law. I mean. Do. My thing. I can honestly say I. Don't see it, you know. I see. You can way. We love you. Nine. Take care of yourselves. Using. Uniform Robert Kraft. and. You, guys have been listening to Yana. Comment of in bed with Nick and Megan featuring Sarah Baker. In bed with Nick and Meghan is an ear wool production. It's produced by Megan Molly Kevin. Bartelt and Michael Injury Executive produced by Collin Anderson in crispy. Music by Nancy and Beth, which can be found at www dot means in back dot com. 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The Best Of The REShow (07-31-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

37:42 min | Last month

The Best Of The REShow (07-31-20)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. We wake up every day. We talk show better than a day with workers were willing professionals. richeisenshow show named. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show. I mean I could read this this. filmography forever Bo Finger Austin powers but it's Drugstore Cowboy and then of course, we all know from swingers right here on the rich Eisen show currently starring on every Tuesday night right now law and order true crime the Menendez murders. Had the great. Good to see you heather. Thanks for having me on your show absolutely both more bright back. Before. We before we get into film and what you're doing on this show, I couldn't help but notice that you and Lebron James Cross paths recently. On your on your instagram or on your social media. The king himself out here in Los. Angeles. So exciting while I was having a birthday dinner with my friend Molly Shannon. Yes she's amazing and so we're having dinner. We saw Lebron James was sitting at the table next to us and Molly said, we gotta get a picture with him and I and I'm more shy. So I said, no, we can't bother him. No, no, no no, he's eight forgetting a picture. She grabbed my arm she pulls me over to and we're and she just you know her son is such a huge fan. She's like I can't leave without showing my son that I met Lebron James and he was. So sweet. You know because it's kind of rude he's sitting there with his wife and it's like some fancy restaurant and he totally did it was so sweet because dinner usually there's there's two spots you're you're not supposed to bother but molly so charming. So I kinda of how could you say? No Right. Everybody loves molly like if I walk down the street with Molly, her fans are rabid people get so excited to meet her. So I just thought Molly's Kinda got a free pass in that like it's true. You too I. Mean obviously the broad is you know he's got a he's he's got comedy chops I mean. He's so tall. You're just looking at this person like how is this person? So tall but like I said, there's two spots usually heather. It's while they're eating. Yeah and the rue and the bath. Yeah. That's rude. Yeah. As anyone ever come to you like in either one of those sponsors say. I usually would do it unless I don't know sometimes it's rude to the people that you're with you don't want to. But if there's a big group of people to intimidate was taking salsa classes in Mexico and he's people recognize me. So I took a picture within then everyone else in the whole place recognize I was famous than everyone in the whole place wanted to take a picture salsa in Mexico. Yeah. Mean I ended up taking like thirty five pictures. How how how good are you also? Okay I'm pretty good. Okay. So did you have play sports is a kid or did you play sports basketball I? I'm pretty good at basketball 'cause I kinda was a gawky grew tall really fast. So I was tall. So I I was good at basketball game. Yeah and then I got into karate for awhile taekwondo karate. Yes. Okay. I love Taekwondo. It's really cool and I recently went to Korea to I was working on this food show and I realized I still remembered someway taekwondo moves so you don't have to put it into practice have I mean? God No. But when I was doing the class regular I did feel really tough. I just said I felt like I was ready to kick somebody's ass. You Know Graham here on the rich Eisen show I wanNA walk you through some of the movies that you've done. To me. swingers is a perfect movie that is a perfect movies made for so little money. You would not even believe it's amazing. They made that movie for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. In that I got involved with it because Jon favreau and I worked on this other thing that was like this thirty minutes short. That was on showtime. So I met him on that he said he was writing a movie and then he offered me the part it was no, it was it was very, it was no money and he said you have to learn how to swing dance. So we used to go to the Derby every night and he would teach me how to swing dance for month and it was amazing because I learned how to swing dance. Salsa swing dancing you got that but to me that movie again for so many guys you know who wanted to be the Vince VAUGHN character. Are Really in real life the John Fabric. Yeah, yeah. Yeah I think that. Was Pretty Great Life I don't think we could feel bad for John talked about the character in the movie. Of course not to get too regular guy constitutive not to get old psychological with you here in deep into my. A lot of. Going to be the vulnerable. Yeah. But the guy who calls up his ex girlfriend fifteen times. Watch it through my fingers like it's hard I know. That to you know I think a girl can relate to that to really just kind of going insane when you like someone and you're not you're bestself you know. But just the fact the fact though that that you show up at the end and it all works out for Jon Favreau you gave us all hope in the world and then went onto direct iron men in the event everything we're excited. I. Understand. Right and then obviously Austin powers you got involved in in that right in the middle of the height of. I mean, how would you able to get through some of these scenes in this movie? I'd been really lucky to work with a Lotta comedic genius people you know and hopefully I think it's taught me and have a better sense of humor in life Steve Martin. That is really it was even more with. So exciting because as a kid when you're a kid, it's different when you're an adult and you go well this person's comedic genius but I'm an adult right. If you grow up watching someone and then you meet them, it's it's a crazy feeling. I that was I used to have a crush on him. I'd be like watching king tight and I'm like he's so cute and crush on him. Did you explain that to Steve when I think I might have? Yeah I think I did yeah. How did you handle that I think he was fodder a previous fathering yeah he looks the same. Yeah otherwise he's just he's cool. He's a cool guy. He looks the exact same. It is truly unbelievable. And then I mean you've been in so many for the lack of better phrase like guys guide movies. Hangover. Also, it's funny because I think I'm kind of a feminist but I always end up with a real guy guys I do know I do yeah. Did you meet Tyson on the set was Mike Tyson? Yeah Okay. Yeah, and I mean he's been here. Wow I. Bet once. And then I asked him a question about how How he's different now than when used to fight and he's basically started saying I don't WanNa talk about that because I don't want to go back to my fighting days and he kind of gave me this look. That's when I through the commercial break right on the spot hit a nerve. I. WanNa know more love psychology. I'd did but I mean, what is what is the craziest time you've ever had on one of these movie sets of any of these movies that you've been on one that you would like you remember it was just thought it was a I mean I'm sure I can think of a lot of different ones but I guess just 'cause you were talking about the hangover it's weird to play like a stripper right and be at a strip club pretending to be a stripper and I play kind of these sexual parts. But in my real life I'm pretty you know sweet I'm not that crazy right so it's very weird to be doing that you don't roller skate naked around and realize. I should though it seems more fun. vicariously through these roles by was this really wild person a terribly awkward. That's what the three of us do to prepare for the show. Done that. I actually really roller skate I wanNA see both of you guys do. That would be cool if you guys were all naked roller skating around when I came in. I don't know if you want to. I'll be very honest with you not the first word awkward trying to figure all that out. But boogie nights to me is another that that to me that is a remote drop moving for me. No matter where I pick it on it is as intense as possible. What was it about? Well, what was it like around Burt Reynolds on that set and everybody else that you were around not so lucky to work with Paul, Thomas Anderson and all those great actors, and that was just a job where you go. Thank you universe like this is a great fortune to be in this movie I'm so. I got to be in it and yeah, just you're looking at all these people burt Reynolds Julianne Moore and you just it's exciting to meet your heroes. Yeah I mean at that time people didn't know who he was as much. He was just starting but you just know that that guy was really poor guy was an idiot behind the wheel of the car and just telling you what an idiot. Josh that was incredible. Now, the law and Order Karm to true crime the Menendez murders you play the mistress of the Menendez brothers, psychiatrists play Marv, Front Josh Charles in this. What was this experience like for you? An still going on we're still shooting it I. still we're still shooting episode seven and eight, but it's been really the you know A. Month away. Yes. Actually sit down and see this I guess that's how they shoot TV. Yeah. But. The case is really interesting. I remember as a kid you know knowing about it and it just sounded so disturbing but knowing all the details of the case it's way more disturbing and it's just really truth is stranger than fiction. There's so many strange details. It. That was actually going on when you were doing swingers. Okay nineteen, eighty, nine. Nine six. Yeah. Off Right. They're doing drugstore cowboy. More but actually I work with yeah. Yeah. Just suddenly went to the Oj Simpson case thinking that I work with Oj Simpson which is not what we were talking about. Another huge case that I worked with him on a Disney Sunday night movie of the week. I worked with him on a Disney Sunday night movie of the week before He. All that stuff how okay what was the name of the Disney movie now called Student Exchange? I mean I didn't really know I was like a teenager in high school, but I remember meeting him and then later on thinking why met that guy so On a Disney movie Yes. He played football coach of this high school go figure that well, it's been a pleasure meeting you. Thank. Press that I didn't say that I directed movie. Would you do I draw the match that's coming out in February? Okay and that's molly. Shannon's in that Thomas who is funny as all get he's amazing. Angela Kinsey everyone knows from the office. That's pretty cool. That's coming out in February. Yeah. What's that about? Sex Comedy. Fantastic. Skating in this at all I know roller skating no no. Well, it's great to see you here again. Big Fan. On your show back anytime, you come back when you want to promote magic or anything else. Sweet. Nice meeting you guys got it Thanks for sharing your roller skating. Story Mike. That was really great time. Out You got Heather Graham right here checkout law and true crime the Menendez murders every Tuesday night on NBC just as it aired last night ten PM eastern time nine. Nine PM Central Time we're back with your calls when we return here at eight, four, four, two, four, rich, and sixty seconds. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your home owners renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot com get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit GEICO DOT com today. That's GEIKO DOT COM G. I. C. O. Dot. com. Can only mean one thing. I turn to my right and I see Stone Cold Steve Austin right here on the rich Eisen show the two nights season finale of his unique interview show on a USA networks straight up Steve Austin kicks off tonight at eleven eastern time to see you Steve Austin Hi Don I'm doing good man. WHO NAMED YOU Steve Austin? Where'd you come up with that? I was Steve Williams and in Dallas Texas when I was getting my start I, went to Tennessee booker was a guy named Dutch mantell. I drove my nine thousand, nine, hundred, eight high end excel over there to to the mid South Coliseum and I walk into I've been in business three much. I walk in and back in the old days there was a guy from University of Oklahoma named Dr De Steve Williams. So I couldn't use that name because it would cause confusion on the card. So Dutch mantell looks me and says, I YOU'RE Steve Austin and I said well I don't WANNA be Steve. Austin. Because I respected to six million dollar man. And I didn't want to copy that and it sure. So he goes you've got fifteen minutes come up with a name. So fifteen minutes goes by I couldn't come up with Nuton. He says you Steve Austin I said, no, he goes you got five minutes come up with the name. This is right before I go out rich you know your last name, your. Whole name has a big effect on your career course. So finally, he says basically get your ass out there you're Steve Austin and that's got it and that's how I said it has nothing to your from. Austin. That little and our said I was from Victoria Texas which town I live in. Okay. But if I would have said, Steve Austin from Austin Texas. Too redundant no no real panache ring to it. So when I finally came up with that Stone Cold Steve Austin thing I told him I said I want to be from Victoria Texas because I wanted to be opposite of everybody else who wanted to be from a big city. A lot of glamor to it. So that's how it has. It's. In his kind of Texas had a little bit of united quad to it and like, Hey, man that sounds Kinda. Cool. Where is it? Why Understand? Because I mean if there's a similarity here is that when I was first trying to get on TV I had a resume reel from northwestern school of Journalism Until School of Journalism. So I grew up my parents still call me Richard but I wasn't going to be a sports caster Richard Isan, and the question was you know high school they were calling me Ritchie on like here's Ritchie would sports and then the the one thing that definitely would not I wasn't going to go with Dick is I'm just wasn't GonNa go with that and just. Even though Berg did very well with that name just didn't fit. So I went with rich and that was kind of it but. That kind of thing that you've and I'm looking at right down your logo jacket looks right and it sounds right. It is right. That is it is right Steve Austin two more minutes left with Steve Austin here on the rich Eisen show. So what was it like being back in Madison Square Garden and had to be amazing it was fun because I didn't realize mental outside been how long have you been? Someone said I did a piece of business air in Oh four. But before that actively wrestling and sometime in the late nineties and so going back, it was very special. garden is considered the backyard for wwe because they're based out of Stanford Connecticut and that's you know sure the backyard just just is the way it is, and so that's such an important market vincent man and so personal to on many levels. He always showed up at that show and and whether it was just a house show or television taping our pay per view and how show as simply a show that's an arena where there's not. Cameras. Rolling. And so we used to thrive on atmosphere in close to three hundred days a year out on the road. But ventured always go to that show when you new ventures air everybody was working their tails off to begin with. But when they venture was there and that could affect you know based on the crowd's response to you and how you performed in a ring you might be in line to move up the card. If you resonated with fans and you saw Vincent Man saw you work. So a very special place and the gardeners such a tough crowd to get over with because they've seen and heard everything. Rich history of wrestling there. So I thought you were talking about the Knicks. Didn't such a tough crowd share, and if you can get over in front of that crowd, they will love you or hate you our respect you for the rest of your career you have any good memory from Madison Square Garden Oh man. You. Know. Favorite one. Go back to a match I had with Bret the Hitman Hart who meant so much to my career because you hand picked me to come back from a knee injury that he was coming back from, and so we had a really solid match but other than that, you know work in a high profile match at Summer Slam called Highway to hell with the undertaker in which for the first time in my life I was knocked out and knocked out in the middle of a match in front of twenty thousand people live on pay per view and I remember when I got knocked out I was laying there on the mat and I looked up. And Earl hypnotist referees looking down he goes got negative. Boy Goes you okay and I looked up at him when I see him and I see the ceiling Madison Square, Garden I said where Emma Hey go god Dang you garden. I'll never forget it. Never Forget it. I don't remember the rest of the match, but I did it. That was that was something I'll never forget our is it possibly going to have anything to do with the XFL reboot you can do anything with them. While I haven't been asked her haven't talked about it to anybody, but it's going to be real interesting to see because I was really in the trenches hot and heavy back when xfl I started years ago and I know events wanted another season because he thought it have worked but they ended up pulling the plug and I think of sour taste in his mouth so now. All. These years removed here they come back. So I'm very interested in it and to see how it's going to do and I'm a I'm a football jokey rich, but it's going to be very interesting knives agree with that. What what was what were you doing for? The XFL? The first time around while you're doing for those who might not remember basically just because all those. Jerseys? Kinda. Fit My motif as far as dressing right all these years Heathrow airport's because that's that's kind of the the stuff that I wear I didn't really go to actively promote the Games because we're on the road. So sure I just remembered that we probably. Of that based on our the. I mean in the days of now where twitter instagram and there's so many different ways you're clearly pointing that out I mean your your your show that's going to be airing tonight I of two nights for your season finale on USA your podcast. I mean you have a ton of followers and you are as a first grade influence a reserve capacity be would make sense to have somebody like you be part of a reboot of the xfl Steve I'm just on that out there I don't want any I don't want any commission I'm not going. To expect any, but I'm just so you would you would be part you would want to be part of that. I. Don't know funny 'cause. Ritchie as close as you are to the game. Are you an XS and Os guy because like I love to watch the guys on Fox sports or wherever it is you wanNA bring on ESPN breakdown the Games talking about the match because I just still see a football game. When I hear those analysts breakdown, you know the the match ups and wow it. You know this team has an advantage based on. What everybody's bringing to watch those guys at played so long. To break down a game I I'm not capable of doing that. Well, I just go on a gut instinct say, Hey, man I think cowboys going to beat the trash can you should be part? You should be just sticky on the sideline at the very least if it's something you'd want to do or something just part of it. schedule. We'll get that out there at Steve Austin bs are on twitter and instagram tonight straight up Steve Austin to night's season finale starting at eleven eastern time how you enjoy just the the making a television show and having a conversation with people that you'd like to talk to. It was a great experience San. We shot the pilot tonight's episode Trace Adkins. A little over a year ago we flew him into L. A. and you know a season one of anything much less a pilot. You KINDA throw stuff at Wal San Seeing what sticks and me come from the world I come from trying to find myself who and what I am as an interviewer. Far As the energy you're bringing or whatnot. So it was a real experiment finally got some momentum going, and then all of a sudden you film, you know the the six episodes after the trace episode and you're done. So it was a very interesting experience. I had a blast donate learned a lot from now seeing the show edited together to the beach together. Sure. So I'm looking forward to. Season two although that has not been confirmed. Okay. So maybe season two of of your show season two point, zero of the XFL. What else can we work on for you? Her Steve Let's let's figure good. If you say you do my podcast, we'll do that. I will do that. Do you cook like Steve Austin cooking show or something like that I do but I'm like that protein guy manage always going to be on a grill I happen to be married to a woman who has vegetarian first vegetarian ever met in my life, but she loves to cook. So I gotTA keep my carcass out of the kitchen because that's hers space. So you say it's your first. Is it your only vegetarian? You've ever come across? Yes. Fifteen years ago Richard South Texas when you roll up to a McDonalds and I'm ordering about six quarter pounder with cheese and she orders him MC Veggie Burger and they're like, what do you mean? You just not want to put a patio it l. a. they had them at the time. So she ate a lot of salads down in south Texas and she wasn't digging. Veggie Burger in these places just a burger without the meat. Bread. And Lettuce. Probably show. Fixings do not want the padding at that is hilarious though. Today Oh man eleven, eastern tonight on USA network. The first of two nights season finale of straight up Steve. Austin ON USA and the Steve Austin Show podcast on podcast. One. Great to see you man. Back Ridge time you know that I absolutely. I'm I'm I'm thrilled to have you that's at Steve Austin bs arm both twitter and instagram. Do you own or rent your home sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy it's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot com get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GEICO easy visit GEICO DOT com today that's Geiko Dot Com G. I C. O.. Dot. com. Look WHO's here everybody? His new to Colorado space is going to be in theaters near you. This very Friday debuted to much critical acclaim at the Toronto Film Festival Stars, Nicolas Cage Jolie Richardson, and this man Tommy John Tommy you Dec- you got So I I, I I mean we could go back to when I first Sawyer but. My children are eleven eight and six They're watching the mass singer. There watching the mass singer and they are seeing the pineapple thing. Off comes the pineapple. Lid? It's Tom Chop. My kids go crazy. They had no idea who you were to be very honest with orbits. Good. I don't know how you work with eleven eight and six year old. That's what I'm saying I'm Lego walking drug tests. The Kid. You better. Go check his room. So I didn't have to check. But man they now know who you are now. What was that? How'd you get hooked up with massing or just? Rick Richard Stanley, you know the director. Okay. He was a big Fan. Yeah. Back in the day I don't know. There's something caused me going on right now? Okay. You know and I I've been in a few silent Bob Reboot I was in that for a minute. Okay and this one here. This would it was a fun fun. Fun Job. Okay me. So then were you the one who chose the pineapple is your. Yeah well. I I was one of the oldest guys to make a dancing with the stars. You know the me on. Way Past when I should have been gone and I think that because I guess TV likes me and so so the pineapple people or the you know the massing or people. He'd be perfect. It was perfect because I got kicked off right away. So you. Thank God got done. Yeah. was. It was a terrible experience because when you're a singer yeah. No, one can know who you are right and so I felt like Hannibal Lecter. High Me In insulated room. Sit there. Wait for my turn to get out there get knowing talk to me right and and do my little singing, and then then that was it and then they came and got your worst experience. Telling kids, cake it enough. I. Know a performance. Rating parts of right was was trump's it was a surprise see. Again. I'm glad they didn't ask why you were the pineapple. Honestly. Well these honestly thought that that was a nice little Lincoln and a nod that you're a pineapple. They let me pick out the classroom. Okay. Yeah. In of all the costumes I didn't want to be a bird or All. All that stuff you got to deal with. The plane up on. And they had nice APPs. That worked. I Guess Roach wasn't a choice, right? No No. Man Again, my kids can't get enough of it. I'm sure that that was also in. Zootopia, too. So. That's another kid. The. The Yak. Yuk Yeah in Zootopia and did the all. That's very young I remember that. But dancing with the stars was crazy because I was going house in century city going somewhere also a gaggle obote. Three or four, nineteen year old girl saw me and starts screaming. Your Tommy John You're dancing with the stars. So which one did you did you enjoy dancing more than the singing part of it or what both was hell Little too reality seventy, seventy was six at the time man I was older than Linney. Doing the QUICKSTEP. You could say, Lenny, you come out here and try it. I was so tired. I couldn't even talk. Data. Through there you know what do you think you? Know, it was Oh. Man Seventy seven hours a day for two months. Yes. It's serious. It is serious work. Oh, I know right. I mean I had dance with all these beautiful women, Hel-. Right Tommy John here on the rich Eisen show. So you trended on twitter over the weekend and I saw it on like Oh gosh. Bill Trent on twitter it's not usually a good everybody goes. Oh, did you. Did you really get that for people. God. I guess I guess if you send out a text to somebody did you die and it's and it comes back read that's a good thing. It's delivered read. That's a good thing. But you were trending because they showed you on the screen and you have see fi and it's not just your popularity to Tommy. But it was also there's a guy right behind you with his shirt and wide open right around the belly button is you're saying hello and your own unique way. and. Did you have any idea that that always going on. Oh my God. Nazi everybody's got to. Check this out honor just good. Google Tommy Chong because right now it looks like men Jonah. Doer show long enough, and you'll get to pretty much every word you know what? It is an interesting selection. Going on right behind you. Wow. You have safely. Somebody have a shirt that buttons up properly maybe. No, no. I you UFC fighter viewed do go to many of them or is that your I know the actually the first for? The Okay So how'd you wind up their? Way My my social media Guy Tony. Pitcher into Dana saying that I'm a big Fan. Big Fan. So he sent us tickets and and you gotta Zor. You saw one of the greatest showman period of the spotlight. Ab on the planet right now conor McGregor the White Tyson. Well. He is beating the crap out of people really fast and you know why? Because that training is so intense and It. Takes so much pain and time and effort right that the only thing you to do after training ticket out on somebody. Maybe trade all those time not when I get you in the ring I'm GonNa and that's what I did. Did you ever have you ever done martial arts or okay I'm a Canadian. What's the connection between martial arts and Canada. Wow. You fight in Canada. You know if you have a disagreement at least used to be living in school, right you know didn't matter of teachers principal any of their I'll meet you after school buddy and you better be there. I thought Canadians. Are More lovers than fighters back in the day we'll look at hockey that's her national game right and it was. A. You know a bunch of years ago where they start goalie start wearing masks right? Sure. They used to stop the puck with their face right so tough Canadians are Tommy. John. Here on the rich Eisen show before we get to color out of space, I'd love to play a game called celebrity true or false where there are some things that we've read in articles about you you come out and you let them know if the tour falsely Tommy Chong headed right there. Celebrity. trill Arkansas. right yeah, Jack. Nicholson's part of this whole conversation shortly celebrity true or false with Tommy Chong first up you became friends with Jordan. Belfort. Because you met him in federal prison, you're both cube mates were you told him to write a book and that book became the wolf of Wall Street that's true. Get Out of here. So you just sitting around with him one day seen Jordan. You should write a I was writing my book cocaine. Jordan would be playing tennis and it was a federal prison. Yes he's. He would. He would be have a day in Tennessee neekam off the tennis court and come into our little cubicle and I'd be writing in Jordan finally said, what are you doing i? I'm writing my book, My memoirs, The i Chong, and so joined says, Oh, I'm going to write and so he sat down and. In in a couple of days. Brought something handed it to me, and because I I'd known Jordan long enough to know that he's is a bonafide genius without doubt. Criminal but genius right. and. So I am. The enemy what he wrote, and I was very honest with you can be honest with geniuses. and. I, and I read it. I said now you haven't written anything then and it back to them is what do you mean because what he did he really copied Tom Wolfe bonfires of the vanity right and he's got this mar mine so he just copied Tom. And And so then he got a little angry with me. So wh you suggest Isis right. The stories that you've been telling me be night because every night just before we go to sleep, you tell me an episode that he had in his life were incredible. And then I told him, you gotta follow the most of rule and he says, what's sad I says well, if you're going to be high be the highest you know if you're going to be bad be the baddest you know because that's what you want to see on film you don't. WanNa. See something ordinary you WanNa see something extraordinary. and. So he he didn't have to do merge stretching. In fact the stories he told me. That never made the movie. We're CR- it's another movie. That's. I mean is life was so incredible just jam packed with everything that that scene about him doing quayle. Who? He couldn't crawl down. To his car, he had a role. To, his car and then drive after that. So so the first editor of the Wolf of Wall Street Tommy Chong, and rejected the the manuscript. Form. Unbelievable next one, the car, your character drove at the beginning of up in smoke belonged to Jack Nicholson. That's right. The little Volkswagen. How How does that well? Lou Adler the director Yes in producer in. Jack are best friends I think they still go to Laker Games together. That's next Jackal Broadening Clean Jack Up once in awhile. When you get a certain age, you got a friend that has to dubbed the little. The little starbucks Schwartz off your good use of Sh- months. Yeah. uh-huh So that's how it came to be. It know what happened we needed a car. You know. So Jacqueline said Hey I gotta both wagon. Use that. Into we change the the grill of the Volkswagen to Rolls Royce Grill, and that was the the gag you know how did you first meet Cheech? How did you guys ever talk? I met him up in. Canada. He was dodging the draft and I was running like A. Safe. House who was the Strip joint but? It. Kinda was like a safe host. Okay. For Mexicans and then so how did you decide like? Let's let's do. Choose, first of all, I had a improvisational comedy. Troupe with the strippers. Hall what. You had an improvisational comedy troupe with strippers. Somehow seeing this again is candidate. I took over a another failing club. Okay and I put in the first Vancouver's for strip joint and and then when I watched I got fired for Motown, I ended up being with nothing to do so I work the lights at the Strip joint. And then I decided that. I should make a Improv group out of the girls in in in the guys that were working there and which I did, and then I became part of the act. And then cheech walked or no needed a street and we had a street man that his wife didn't know what he was doing. Real actor. Yeah, and so we made the front page of the news and the wife okay. You're out of here and then a mutual friend who teach for said. Hey, I got a guy that's really funny. So you don't cheech in and the rest is history roasted his, and then last one you appeared in the cult classic Foxy Brown UN, credited as pilot. said a true or store where you and Foxy Brown you were not no. We it's a false found celebrity fall. Take it off as I am deeply Flexi Brown. The Great Foxy Brown, you know the UH PAM grier. Oh. Oh. Ha I just had a moment with Tommy. Chang. Before Maritime. Let's talk about colour out of Space Sir opens in theaters this Friday. Where you play an individual that is right in the middle of the SCI FI horror film. What did you like about this dome? I liked the the character I. Love the character you know, Sierra wasn't John Ford Geor- yeah. y'All Grizzly Guy Yeah. I like I like playing that guy that was fun. I loved Health Stanley Director. I had no idea what the movie was about or anything you know I heard something about nick cage being in it. But then when I got there, they wanted me to play an old firm and I'm on my way there. What's in Wales Mike Man? In the cage like I never met him I mean I I've met him before but not in the movie Oh okay. We never had any scenes together. Okay. Unfortunately you're in with Nick Cage. At Sci fi horror film eighty, seven percent rating on rotten tomatoes. You can check it out in theaters coming out this Friday colour out of space. It's based on the short story by HP lovecraft and it'll it's a sci fi horror film in every way shape and form Tommy Chong. Thank you for coming on. This is a total blast I. I can't wait to show picture of me and you to my kids later on I did not tell them that the pineapple for messing rich Eisen show it'll be fantastic. Tommy Chong on twitter at Hey Tommy Chong on instagram your phone calls and set up a part of the rest of the week. When we come back coming to live by live Thursday July Thirtieth Darius Rucker's Darius and friends virtual concert benefiting Saint Jude Children's research hospital catch an. 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85. Madeleine Olnek

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85. Madeleine Olnek

"OMG? Yes dot com does large scale peer reviewed scientific research about what sexually pleasurable for people with Volvos, and they turn the findings into beautiful videos and animations see you can put it all to us alone or with a partner, honestly, truly sex, Ed all for it. You can stay curious about. Bodies by visiting OMG. Yes dot com today. You can get a ten dollar discount for I newly released season. Two by going to g S dot com slash query. Get yourself educated. This is a show about individual experience and personal identity. There may be times. When folks use identifying words or phrases that don't feel right to you. That's part of what we're exploring here. Please listen with an open heart, and as always I welcome your plate engage feedback. And I encourage you to continue the conversation in your own life and with your own community. Welcome to query. Hey, Queiroz Cami here. This week's episode is a chat with writer director, Madeleine Olmec, who's new movie wild nights with Emily isn't theaters just saw it and loved it so much I research Madeline and was like when can we talk and she was like honestly tomorrow. So that is how that is the full Cami stamp of approval is when you interview somebody within twenty four hours. My mom will make a guest appearance in this podcast. Woo. And if you could please review and rate the show on itunes been asking for that the last couple of weeks, and I am noticing all of these beautiful ratings give it five stars. And enjoy this show feeling. Still. No, no, no careless. I always have folks on this podcast Druce themselves. Will you introduce yourself? Of course, my name is Madeleine on that. And I'm a playwright NFL maker. And I live in New York City. They you so much for we made this happen in. I think twenty four hours, I think it was just amazing. I think crackerjack team a great team of Hello Jordan, who's recording us right now. An awesome producer Sierra who helped set this all up, and I also went through Jackie Monahan who in your movie. That's you gave me the Email address. Like connected at all see is the greatest. Yeah. You know? I mean, we don't know each other. Well, but I was so happy to see her onscreen. And she crushed it. Actually. I should just Shay what we were talking about is wild nights with Emily. Yes. Which is your movie that's currently in theaters. And I do want to share something with the listening. Public which is when we had our first like our premier Jane Krakow's ski was in the audience and afterwards, she was like who was that. Meaning Jackie Jackie Monaghan. Who's an out stand up comedian and performer was so funny. She just she is funny. So funny in this in this movie. Well, I think I saw it. I think I saw mom when did we see this movie? Did we see it on Sunday? My mom is here in the studio. She's in Linda, she has a microphone cheese in the booze. Yeah. You wanna come in here and talk to me, you can if you want to do be great. I would like for me. I second. I will. I will relieve her in a moment, but she can come talk to me for a second would be great. I don't want her to have to work the whole time. You can come in here. I won't ask too many questions. Yeah. Do you want to are you with us? Awesome. I think can this might go on Jordan awesome. Yeah. Why don't you sit there, and you can use those headphones if you want, and this is my mom. You can't really see her actually, I'm realizing, but she'll wet what's her name? Well, this my mom, Brenda, Brenda. Hi, brenda. Hi. Oh, great. So glad you could join us quite a privileged to join you in succeeding. Yeah, it's exciting. Because one of the things one of the ideas, I had making this movie was I wanted to make a movie that mothers could go with their kids to see parents could go with their kids with their teenage kids. So the fact that you both went is I've only had a few mother daughter mother kid child parent teams, come I had a funny experience a couple of weeks ago that I'll tell you about the fact that you can both speak to your experience going together. Yeah. It would be great. Yeah. We we will we went with. There was a group of my friends that were wanting to see a movie, and I and I. I mean, honestly, just on the strength of your poster solich congrats to whoever I was huge, Molly Shannon fan. But this is really hard is really great. Bad. Yeah. So I had seen in a local theater, and we went to this like art house theater. And I suggested of the movies that were there imam. You you were sitting next to me, right and like cracking up. Yes. I'm also. Field being thoughtful about it being thoughtful about it. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Brenda what did you expect? When you went to the theater, like, what did you think was going to happen during the movie, this is this is wild nights with Emily, which is now in theater, right? Well, I, of course, am of the. Group that studied Emily Dickenson thinking that she was a recluse. And so when it was about, you know, Emily Dickinson reading just some of the literature. I thought well. If Cameron would like to see it, I'll go, but I don't know how much they'll be to say because she was I mean, maybe I can find out why you know. She was a recluse. And so and then of course, Molly, Shannon has. All what made me laugh for a long time. So I was trying to figure out how those two ideas would be would be married, you know, rate because you thought how could Molly Shannon, be playing miserable. Emily dickenson. Right. Right. So I kind of went into it with that. And then it's fun to be in Los Angeles and doing anything with Cameron, and I went along with that as well. That's nice. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. But then we like had a great time. We had a great time. Yeah. And the people that we were with. Loved it as well. I'm married. Couple young married. Couple of animal woman. They thought it was great. Yeah. Yeah. We we went to see this movie with with straight people, you know, straight people straight this wall. Wall Street people straight people like this movie. Yeah. Why won't put you on the spot too much? But I really appreciate you coming in. And speaking for a second. I just have a few more questions for my mom. Yes show when do you saw the movie so afterwards? What did you think about when you thought about everything you had been told about Emily Dickinson and afterwards, what did you think about why this happened? Well, I thought it was a terrible injustice. First of all. And then I was interested to actually look at the transcripts myself somehow to see where the name sue was erased. And I guess those were the first two things that I thought about. Have we have a really great. I have put together this historical packet. Because when I we first premiered the movie at south by south west a lot of the reviewers thought that I had made the story up. So I had to put together this packet. And it was like the I looked at it almost like I was presenting a case in a courtroom, a home, and I had to compile all my evidences. And so I actually made this one document called Emily's obvious letters and Cam, I'll send it to you. Because there it's just laugh out loud. Funny. How obvious and these are letters that were actually never raced? I mean there were a few there were race. But then there is a majority of them that just been sitting out there. I'm a lot of them were published in one thousand nine hundred nine and it's kind people have been so invested in this history that they couldn't integrate they had they so had this one narrative of Emily Dickenson. In in their mind that even when they were given new pieces of information, they couldn't integrate it into this image. They had in their head. So it it's I found it laugh out loud funny. How AVI sledders were. Sure. So obvious. We'll also say can I just just give some context for anybody? That's a show in the movie how much context are you giving? I guess I guess what we'll say this is what the movie's about is the the love life that Emily Dickinson and have an a longtime love and the way in which that longtime love was removed from her story through like a racer, but actually vis actual physical erasure. Yes. Right. Right. So marketing to the marketing, and we do. Yeah. And that was a big part of her success of Emily Dickenson success was the idea. Okay. Maybe she was a genius. But she never. Wanted anyone to read her poems? And she never wanted to be published and she was miserable. And no one loved her and look at the price she paid that was all part of what allowed the world to celebrate her the idea of a racing, the very normal desires that she had as a writer to be heard the very normal ambition that she of course, had anyone who writes two thousand poems. Of course, they want them to be read. But instead, it was all twisted to make her acceptable. And then this kind of a racer of women's stories and of queer stories that happens creates an environment where you know, when Hillary Clinton was running for president. It was like no one had ever seen an ambitious woman before and all of a sudden we're believing stories about pederasty pizza parlor because she's just a freak. She's a witch. And, but what was really interesting to me was the idea of how much I wanted to make a movie that just showed her life as it was because I want also wanted to make a movie that would last I feel like our society is changing really fast in a good way in a bad way with Donald Trump. But other things are very good. And I didn't want to sort of explain too much because I felt like people's understanding is going to change over time. And I wanted the movie to be accessible like in the future like ten years in the future. I wanted people be able to watch this movie and still and still be able to absorb it and just see her life, as it was if that makes sense, I just want to say one thing to Brenda. I just want to tell the story to little bit sad. I can tell it knowing. My sister will never listen to. A podcast that has a queer. But I was trying to get her to bring my nephew in LA, and she wouldn't bring him and to our LA screening. She was like, oh, it's inconvenient. And I was like, well, I'll do acuity AM Pasadena, and she was like, no, no, no. It's don't worry about me. And I was like finally like what you bring him or not like he's in tenth grade. And she she was admitted that she didn't want to bring him because it was queer film. And then Finally, I was like, oh, you know, what this film showed at Harvard? So if he went to Harvard, he would have seen this film possibly, and then all of a sudden she brought him. She was willing to bring like when all of a sudden they're status attached. But the point is is that we tried to make a movie that had a lot of poetry. And there's like it's a movie that I really hope people will bring their high school and junior high school kids to so. And that there's something they are like. You saying brunette where you feel like you could you were surprised that you had a lot to talk about. And everyone had a lot to talk about afterwards. Right, right. Yeah. I I wish you. Best success with it. Because I think it's important. Well, thank you so much. And I know I thank you so much. I know I yanked to in here. So I appreciate your. That's right. All right. I'm going to be the thing. Anyway, thanks for being here. This is this is your is this your sister. You said he has my sister is that did you have other siblings? Two I've three altogether and. Were you in the age order? I am three number three there. My is younger. My other sister, one of her kids is in the film was an extra and did ally in the film. She's she's in college, she's just graduating this spring, and so she you can see her in different parts of the film. And but I really I I mean, I don't know about you. But I always felt like I wish when I was younger I could've seen cinema that. Made me start wondering about. What did I how did I feel romantically in my life or how did identify like I didn't get to see any of that from like a young age? And there wasn't. I like something that I could see with my parents by my dream would be to make a queer rated G movie. This one is PG thirteen they say for sexual content. I don't think it's that. Yeah. Make out his stuff. I know I know I mean, it was actually got thirteen instead of just PG went to thirteen because of the moaning sounds that Austin and Mabel make when no Emily's listening upstairs, and those are just jokes. Oh, yeah. But that, but it was like PG thirteen for explicit sexual sounds or something like that. I mean, that's that's funny while yeah. I hear what you're saying. I mean, I definitely can relate to that. Of course. I think. Well, right. The idea that like queen's is adult somehow is something that I I've talked to very recently. Another guest on this podcast chrisny who created the show. Doc, Mick Stephen's, which is a like really popular children's television show in Chris's LS Bian. And I when we were talking I was talking about like that thing where it's like, we don't really talk about this anymore, but but prior to merge equality, like the we have to protect the children messaging was so strong. I feel like we've switched to other messaging now like it's like we have to protect us in bathrooms or something like we like to that. But was so strong. And so I guess I guess like then hearing, you know. You're you're you're still in your family about your film, like this is not an inappropriate film. For. I mean, very let's see one time. I was sitting on a plane next to a guy watching the television show billions and Paul Giamatti had a ball gag in. And was now that's pledged to highlight episodes. I was watching the movie. Oh my God. What is it? I was watching the movie Carol and the way that Carol had been batted at may be the greatest movie ever made. So good, right? So the way that Carol had been edited for for the plane was that every even kiss had been taken out when I guess at the end of the movie was then it was now a movie about a husband who got mad about his wife having long looks like it didn't even the movie didn't even make sense anymore because there was because nothing had happened between the characters and that's funny anyway, I caused so I take did they take out. You did I want here. This told me no I caused a stink. I had like the thing where you by about thirty minutes of internet. I tweeted about this and friend of mine who is name is Trish Bendix is a writer. Yes. Yes. Yes. Trish picked up that. I waited about this. And at the time worked for a property that was owned by MTV. And so then MTV news. News picked it up. And then from there CNN picked up like huff PO like legitimate news organizations by the time I landed the Weinstein company, and this is years ago when that was like before anything. The Weinstein company had to issue a statement because I. Because that was. Stories. Great. But anyway, my point is we live in a world where Carol Carol they can't kiss. But we're pulled Jimani. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, that's so interesting. And I'm I'm assuming then that they removed that moment when Carol put makes that pass at the young of the older woman named Caroline. She opens her coat. Yeah. That's that's pass that there. Can't pretend didn't happen. You know, do you know what I mean? Like like that is quite a pass like someone who makes that pass. You can't be like, oh, I'm sorry. I just that was accident. You know, it's like once you do that you can't walk backwards from such beautiful sandwich is I mean I wanted to make but I didn't when people were walking out of that movie in New York. They all look stunned like good. I wanted to make up Bligh wanted to take pictures stand. There all day and take pictures of audience members walking out of my they look like they'd been drugged. Like, you just went on the, you know, that's a possibly the greatest movie of all tone. Well, I I have a ton of. Action for it as well. It is one of my favorites. And. I made a point to see it in the theater because something that I really love. And it's also I made a point to try and see your movie in every movie in the theater that like has contents like for two reasons. Number one, I want movies like that to continue to be made. So yeah. And that's the only way to be counted. Yeah. With my. I try to make sure to be like to vote with my disposable income because if this movie versus that movie, I try to vote with my disposable income. And then also like I love the feeling of watching something like that in community. Yes. Because like still has even for me, you know, this feeling of the taboo, like like, I felt embarrassed watching Carol on the plane the guy next to me watching billions seemed to feel fine. But I was like, oh, God are people going to see. What mean, let's like. Yeah. We know you grow up with homophobia, you still you can work real hard. But those moments of internalized, homophobia is still going to Papa gas, and it's so nice to just like witness them and be an make the choice to be in community and watch something like this anyway because it because it feels like a like a release of that shame. And all that a definitely definitely an also is because this. Movie has her poems. Onscreen watching an on a laptop is not the same experience. Sure. Yeah. And there's there's a way in which there is a collective intelligence that you feel when people are listening to something that I mean her work is so profound. I'm not talking about my filmmaking talking about Emily Dickinson's writing so profound to have this profound experience on screen with other people. It's adds it enriches it, and it's meant to be seen on the big screen, and it's remarkably we've been doing so well, it's shocking, and Molly Shannon is so thrilled with how it's going because she's been doing soil. Can you tell me more about specifically what you mean, do you mean reviews? Do you mean review coming up to the people coming out we've lasted like usually a movie like this will last in theater for a week sharing weaken LA a week in New York? And then it's gone. We are. Are have been there for weeks. We I'm wanted to come. And thank you so much for comma dating me to have me on the podcast to say, everyone gets to the theater this weekend. We we don't want this to be the last weekend. Yeah. And it's a date film. It's there's a love in it. There is history in it. There's comedy in it there's drama in it. It has the greatest poet, America's greatest poet. And this incredible love story. These two women forty years, and they were in love with each other. They also had an intellectual relationship, they inspired each other. And it's really an important story that has been kept from us for all be from all these years. And I remember when I was in college just hearing very creepy things about Emily Dickinson that she was in a gore Afo, and whenever I thought of I was just like e again, like I know desire to read or poetry. I remember only knowing because I could not stop for death from high school and thinking that's not a very good poem. And I still don't honestly like much, but her actual her other poems. And I don't know how you felt with about the other poems, and the piece are really very complicated and very contemporary, and they sort of encapsulate, these psychological states there. So modern in a way that you just wouldn't expect and they're so interesting. I mean, weirdly, I have been having a tough year. And I was feeling like a particularly blue. I I don't even know a couple of months ago before I knew about the film, and I looked up a bunch of for poetry, and I probably hadn't. Ben interested in what she like since high school like you're saying maybe in college, but. That was my experience looking at. It was like wait straight up. When did sure this is. It's unbelievable is an also like it's funny to see how her like the way she. Like structures things in terms of spacing in. In the words that fit on each particular line. It's like, yes, we'll try to honor that and I don't know if you could tell there were things like the scene where Emily's and buried alive and the grave and that word lane is just singly on the screen. That's how she had the poem. And it's like, you we tried to keep the dashes everything to you know, to so that you'd have the actual experience of her poems as you intended. Yeah. I mean, that's awesome. I feel like we've kind of caught up with her. I mean, I was I was thinking like I mean Twitter is a visual experience. And there are certainly jokes in like memes and things that work on Twitter because of again, it's like a similar right people making choices like that. So it's funny to see us catch up with her. Now. She wasn't. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. And I guess I'm curious about why so many questions for you about like, what got you to this moment. OMG? Yes dot com is a sexual pleasure. Research website, s I love sex, Ed like truly truly on the side of sex. Ed, OMG dot com. Partnered with researchers at Indiana University and the Kinsey institute to distill the wisdom of over twenty thousand people with Volvos all between ages eighteen and ninety five so ninety six year olds were not interviewed to find out. 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This is the read Jordan stop. Stop everybody. Stop interrupting me. This is the this is the Ed enjoy. I I'll start here actually you. You said you're playwright in your intro. But this was a first crack it was a play. I where was that staged? It was at the wow cafe, which is the longest running women's theater in the United States of America. Where's that? It's a former swept sweatshop it's on east fourth street in the east village in New York, use actually still wouldn't know it was there. It's on the fourth floor of this building. This lady lived above it. And she'd always come down every day. Like, it's too loud. Like we were. But it was it was like if you can imagine. I mean, I started doing plays there in the late eighty s and we were like we were considered insane to be presenting queer stories is that always where you when you've been staging places that like, that's your place. Well, that was my main place 'cause that was where I could do what was great about. It was because the in house audience was largely queer you weren't explaining things to people like it wasn't a plea for acceptance. Or you know, you didn't it wasn't. It was just Tony Kushner who wrote angels in America said something really great once which was if you start with an audience who knows as much as you do you can all go to the next level together. Like how much would you need to explain if you were making a play for homophobic, Senator Jesse Helms who was in the Senate? That time and was enemy of people who were fighting for the aids crisis to and like you'd have to make the dumbest play in the world takes plane homosexual it's just to Senator Jesse Helms to right wing, right wingers. So that was the idea and out of that theater emerged. Lisa Krohn who wrote well and also fun home and the five lesbian brothers one of the five lesbian brothers peg Healey. I'm still I'm working with her on a project where reading together currently. So we really did. I did a lot of plays there because it was also it was a sweat equity. Collective there. Wasn't anyone judging who was good? And who wasn't which I loved because that there wasn't anyone who was so because there was no filter. There was so much creativity that happened there. You just had to do. Labor on someone else's play in order to have your play put on. That's what's what sweat equity. Collective means. Yeah. You're working. So got it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how we all put on our plays like you would run lights for someone else's then they would run lights for yours. Let's go. Certainly done my share of that in the stand up world. Which is my first my first profession this podcast castings like my ninth profession, but yeah. You know, it's interesting that that what you're describing. I certainly have had that experience as a comic like zillion times. I mean, I started just by the nature of standup like when you start. Nobody's there to see you. And so as performing for like, mostly straight audiences and then now over time like my audience has self selected more queer. It's not like, I'm like, right straight. People. Don't come to a world is smarter. We'll share her to agree. Well, I mean, they're smarter. And they're stupid or both. I don't know what I actually don't know. Because I have had a really interesting experience of like my audience changing lot. And he's outside of my control. Look, I didn't say queer people come to me like I'm stoked that that's my audience. But right, barring I would perform for anybody who shut up and bought a ticket. You know metoo? I also had the plays that would leave. Wow. And go to other theaters. Like, Emily, we went to Boston. It was performed in a bunch of universities. So it did my stuff did go around. But there was something. Great about. No, self consciousness and no censorship. That's inter-. I mean, again, like, I think actually my experience has been I'm curious as to what this has been like for you is like asthma audience has gotten more queer like I have to be a lot better. So I don't know that it's smarter. But my audience has because they that's true. I I have to be more interesting because I can't just come out. And be like Yoho. And the joke is I'm also gay right? Exactly. Show specific young. Yeah. I mean, I always use the argument because lots of people be like, oh, they're just making theater for themselves. And it's like, well when you go to let's say an ethnic restaurant. It's always a sign that the rest the cuisine is really good. When people of that same necessity are eating there. And that's the argument. I would use. I love actually, that's like I like love that. That's really interesting. Yeah response. I because a lot of it was really weird. I would see a lot of playwrights who would give interviews and they'd be like if not just for gay audiences and not just forgetting it's like, you know, what I'm a gay audience. Yeah. Like, what do you want me to do like, find a mail? Order husbands feel better about taking a seat here. You know? I mean, it's has to be it can't just rely on the novelty of hey, we're queer there has to be more to it with a gay audience because they've seen that already. That's right. And I I mostly curious as you're saying, you know, you taking the play from there somewhere else. I I will say I saw I saw phone home. When I when it was on Broadway. And that was very interesting experience for me, you know, I don't always get to see queer performance. Like, honestly, I am the queer performance. Right. Right. Right. But you know, Broadway is like so mainstream that. There were so many straight people. There was an incredible experience sitting in an audience of straight people. Yeah, they had to watch us. Yes. That is a whole other thing that I really I realized I really hadn't maybe seen before you know, because like if I go to Sarah show like some people there. But like this was just, you know, it's Broadway leg, it's like, right? Like, right. So that was what was so amazing about that production. So I'm when queer performers and content and everything it was it's to me. I it I cried during it, and I felt like wow. Like, I mean 'cause I started making entertainment queer entertainment good thirty years ago. So if you can imagine how different the world was then the initial reviews then also worked. You know, Madeleine only imagines Emily Dickinson is a lesbian as opposed to like this won't. No. So it's the whole world has changed. And it's shocking and to what you were saying before about kids I used to teach preschool, but it was like there was always that fear. That was like, oh, the kids, and you know, that kind of stuff where you just wish that they're just like there were Disney cartoons as as as much as our society has gotten more educated until there is a Disney cartoon where a prince Mary's a prince or Princess Mary's a Princess or someone identifies gender wise differently than their their birth gender. You know, like until there's that in Disney kids are still going to have this framework put on their head because our narratives determined so much about how we think about ourselves. And that's what. This whole argument is over women directors. It's not about gee, a lot of women. Don't get hired for this important job. That's very prestigious Pedro out of money because that's true in every industry. It's if we as a society have this ridiculous Lee unequal treatment of women wear two people get that idea that that's okay, they get it in our movies, and our TV shows and the director controls how we perceive women literally the director controls, how you see people image size image length point of view, which characters we identify with which characters we judge all of that is controlled that narrative is piece together by the director, and to not have female directors as part of that conversation, literally makes it that all of us even women watching movies are in getting this subconscious. Judice themselves, and it's such a good point. And I I mean, certainly no argument here it is so strange to still live in a. Because this is such a logical. I mean, I guess I guess it's not that strange. Because what what you, and I are you, and I are gonna have a logical conversation about this and oppression is not logical it illogical. But I do feel like I hear still constantly that idea of of special treatment or people being like moved through the ranks for tokenism to-, exactly. Well, tokenism and just to make things look better or to keep up with like PC culture, which is literally just a fucked up word for kindness. Like, I just you know. And so then I think about the the work that I do in the things I've been able to make an I there there's under straight man, you know, could not write the jokes. I ride or host guest host make the television show I made so. Right. The idea that. Yeah. No. But I mean, the idea that if we want to talk about a rich culture, it's not that. There's anything wrong about say a straight man making a podcast or being the director of everything, but we lose something. Yeah. Like, even his even his ideas about women suffer because he doesn't get to encounter other points of view. That's exactly right. Yeah. And also, I think it. You know, something I always pitch if I'm like trying to be guy. I'm like, this will also make you more interesting. If you don't have the control of every story, you're stories will seem more interesting because right now, like it's hard for we live in this time where it's hard for a straight white men to stand out and people there, there's a. You know conversation about like, reverse, depression or something like that. But it's like if you let us make shows, I swear your show. Fresh, again, not be able to believe that a man has an opinion. If you just women have been it for a little bit, right? Reminds me of though, I just wanna say, Molly, Shannon is so wonderful in this movie. She plays Emily Dickinson. And she's been like hitting the press really hard with just talking about what the story means when in wild nights with Emily, and what we lose when we lose the story of this love affair. Molly Dickinson was LGBTQ hero. She says everywhere she goes on. And it's just so great because she can reach this wider audience that, you know, my work has never reached in people are so excited, and she so beloved, you know, of a person, and she really has earned that because she's such a warm and wonderful individual so kind and she's such a great sense of humor. And it's really great to hear her like, I don't know if you saw her she was interviewed in the New York Times, and this amazing. It's totally political article. But it makes you just want to see the movie you don't shut down. You don't feel like you're being lectured at and I just think it's really interesting. You know, what we've lost by not having realistic portrayals of what people in the past especially women queer people have gone through. Yeah. Yeah. Women people people of color. Yes. Obviously in there, also and all the intersections thereof. I you saying this is like a. A big moment for you. And then I'm thinking about thirty years you saying even making here's yeah. What does that feel like to be like in the moment? That's the that's so like you're having a ton of success right now. We're at least getting celebrated. Yeah. How does it feel for you? If feels like a hallucination. I mean, it's very odd. I mean, it's I did have one similar moment which was years and years ago where I was doing this play and the the day after rehearsal started the five lesbian brothers one. What's called an OB award? Which is kind of like a Tony for downtown theater. And I had been doing plays already for years, and I would send out press releases. But you almost felt like you were just taking them and dumping them in the garbage because it was never any response. And so we started rehearsal and two of the performers had just won an OB. So all of a sudden, we got all this attention. I was for this play called spooky world about this woman who had a job as a ghost in a haunted house amusement park, that was kind of abandoned actually turned out to be the front for Colt and her ex girlfriend who kind of haunts her in these party. With ridiculous. We would this. There was like this had the greatest this was the most one of the most exciting experiences of my life because this set designer Beverly Bronson who actually just died about a year ago created this incredible haunted house set that you'd go up to the fourth floor again of this former sweatshop the wow cafe theatre where you would just see normal stuff that was like blackbox black curtains. That was all you saw everyone sat down to see the show and the first scene and then the curtains would rise up in this haunted, house amusement. It was just like incredible. You felt like you were being treated to this like Broadway experience in this tiny box theatre on the fourth floor of a of a building. But there was always this sense of I guess I want to say pride that we all tried to take knowing that. Despite what the world thought of us, despite what the value the world had assigned to us, which was that. We did not matter, and we did not matter in the theater world door in the artistic world. We all wanted to make something really good. So that someone coming in? And we would be the only show in New York. You could see for women and queer people identified like that would be the only lesbian queer show. You could see was at the wildcat Fe. And we wanted people to come upstairs pay their seven dollars or hers and see something really special like we all worked on it. Because even though the world didn't value it. We wanted people to come in and fail. Like we. We were valuing our lives. Pretty blown away by that. That's beautiful. What you? What were you where are you from? I'm from why was born in New York City, but I'm from Connecticut a little bit of that. Connecticut, etiquette say, but to New York, I went to NYU, and I studied theater I wanted to be an actor. But then I was in a comedy show with Molly, Shannon, and it became really clear that one person had talent and the. So you long. Yeah. So she was so I actually directed her. When she first created the character that later became Mary, Katherine Gallagher. Oh, wow. So it was we did this to person skate where she was on dishing for me, and I was a stricter. So she would come in an improv, and I'd make lists of what she did and give them back to her. And then she structured this whole thing. But she wrote it, and it was so funny to come into this amazing on dish in and like her heart out and jump all over into all kinds of things. And then I want to say thank you like anticipate like this totally immovable. Director. But it was amazing. And when we did this show, there were lines around the block to see I mean, and it was funny because Dan jinks who went on to produce American Beauty and different things produce that comedy show. And he was like the lines around the block show that showed him that he was meant to be a producer. That's what he thought the lines around the block were for Molly. And you know, I directed the show and came up with the I came up with the framework of audition for that skit, and it was it was she caused a sensation on the campus. Because it was just like oh my God. Like, what is like people hadn't ever seen anything like that before students at NY yet? And we we did this show. Yeah. So so then I graduated and then I vaguely started to I started to gravitate towards the east village. Performance seen as I sign. We'll taste started to realize that I was gay. And I totally realized it when I was in the gay pride March after like a block to I started marching in the like after block two or three I was like, oh, I'm really gay. You know, I'm like going your support, my friends or whatever. But it was like when we started to go around Columbus circle. Like something about the motion of it. And knowing that everyone on the sidelines was looking at me thinking, I was gay. And I was like, oh, I am gay. I am gay. So then I was gay. And then this. This. Then I joined I was at the wild cafe and I also joined act up. So I was doing both of those. And it was it was really it was a very hard time because if felt like. You know, people it it felt if felt like the world there was just part of the world that was so evil that was the part. Those are the Republicans who were like people with aids got it brought it on themselves and all the stuff that was going on. And it felt. I just I just felt like there were two worlds. I mean. And at one point, I don't know if you saw the movie, it's really great. What happened? I think it was called what happened miss Simone about Nina Simone. I had she. But she was she got really militant at one point. And that's totally. Like, all my former friends who were straight. We're like what happens to matter. Students. What are we talking about here? No. I mean, I was just so I was so mad. What did I do my mother then years later was still mad at me because she she thought I was going to assassinate President Bush. I never was going to assassinate him or anyone really nice person. Let's break that you were not going to assess me I wasn't. But she was like I worried for years about you. It's asinine prison. And it was like mom act up was not a violent group that I thought maybe she thought we were violent group, and she was like that doesn't matter. There's always someone who steps out of the group with their own agenda. So it was like even if I was in a non-violent group. I still would have been the assassin. Can you give me like a time? Like a like vague years this eighty eight eighty nine ninety. Yes. So wild time to be in New York. It was and it was so here's the thing. So my friends the five lesbian brothers were on the first episode of in the life, which was the first gay and lesbian and queer Trajan, you know, variety show, it's called end the life. There was the pilot episode. My friends the five lesson bureau was is on. I don't even know what it was on PBS. It was the very first time. There was a gay show on TV the very first time. Wow. I don't know how I don't know anything about this continuing continue for the education so five less brothers one of which was Lisa Krohn who wrote fun home. They were performing and they're like Madeline come being the audience. I was like, okay. So I go to be in the audience and my sign one of those release forms, and I was like. What is what if my mother sees me and at one? So this was like I was still coming out. And there was a reason I hadn't yet told her which was aside from being I had I yet been accused of being assassin. No. But she was very she was very extreme Catholic and was very homophobic. And as they've shown people, whose parents are more homophobic have a harder time coming out and come come out with later, and that was the time when for women women typically came out in their late twenties and early thirties statistically around that time that I came out. So and went to see my friends in in the life. Again, the first time on television. There was a gay and lesbian and queer variety show, and my friends were going to perform there was a student wanting to signed a release form and at some point during their performance at cut away from them. Just to a close up of my face sitting. And my friend Pecci was like, oh, maybe you'll mother will see it and say who's that gay man who looks like my daughter. But then my mother did see. That's how I had to come out to to her. How did she see it? She sought because she was always because she was so homophobic show is always watching all the gay stuff on TV very fusing not. But like, I was telling her all the all the gay things that my life involved at that point, which I didn't have any girlfriend, but I would tell her about every act up, and we went up to Kenna bunk port. I went to all the different she'd be like, oh, I was looking for you on TV can of bunk Portland house like while. I was there. And you know, that's where I'm Bush the Bush family had their summer home that we tried to we wanted to ruin their summer, which we didn't enough bite. So I would tell her at every act up at thing. I did. And you know, it was also that was horrifying because we were the ones who went into Saint Patrick's. You know, like there was a real Catholics versus act up. You know construct and so anyway, so you went into Saint Patrick's tell me more about that. No, no, no. I wasn't that was before I had joined act up. It was this kind of watershed moment in queer activism because the activists went into the church. Yes. And people are like, oh, we shouldn't do how would we feel if conservatives came into the gay center, you know, when people lay down in the aisle during communion so that people going up to get communion had to step over, quote, unquote, dead bodies. You know what I mean? Yeah. Lying there saying, but it's true. The Catholic church wasn't teaching. They were given a lot of money to for aids patients, but they weren't teaching safe sex and people who were if you can imagine. So the city was giving the Catholic church a lot of money for age services. But the people who were coming in for eight services, we're having. Hard time because of everything mechanic church espoused. I mean, this is, you know, this is still specifically a huge issue. I was raised really Catholic and. It's it's no it is no coincidence. That. Most of the outreach that is done medically in like sub Saharan Africa is by different church groups, like the that is who's priding the medical infrastructure, and that those church groups, specifically, the Catholic ones don't believe in contra contraceptives, I know in passing condoms? So then there's aids crisis in sub Saharan Africa. Well, the people who are providing the medical care don't believe condoms work and not just handing them out. And they don't believe it. It's like when they're encountering people with aids, they're not educating them. And here's a condom. Yes. And if you give a condom you're fire there was someone in a New Yorker, Boston social worker working at a place run by Catholic agency, and they were fired for giving a condom to someone with aids. Yeah. I mean, so huge issue. It's like, it's a huge issue. And it's a huge issue if they're getting resources from the from the city government or where does not from. Citizens who haven't been able to make this connection because I think that's the other thing that's tough. You know, when you think about like, what forces are sinister, it's like there are people who are, you know? Donating money. You know at the church. I grew up in who are thinking that it's going to provide food for somebody. And like, okay, it might be. But it also might be going to perpetuate this Christ. Exactly, exactly. Just be. So easily turned around, right? But I have to say that my proudest when they talk about gay pride. I think my proudest moment as a homosexual came when there was this really long article in the New York Times about this abusive priests, and you know, the church had been moving him from place to place as they do. And he was the head of this. He was going to be appointed to be the head of this place called the Leo I think it was not called the Leo club. But it was like the Leo house which was a house for runaways, and they decided not to put him there because they were like those gay people. Those gay activists keep following him. And I and there was a lot of controversy over the Saint Patrick's thing because someone also went up. A communion and spit out the waiver, which was considered a desecration. But I thought like the Lord Jesus himself would have spit out that way for to stop those young kids from being molested from a priest. You know, like that was when I saw that they didn't put that that father the head of who had this long record of abusing children at the churches in charge of that house for runaways. I just I was so proud of you know, I was so proud that's amazing especially because like statistically those those like an homed kids were were probably family there. You know? Statistically like that. Susan housed is is. Yeah. So yeah, that's really read too. This ways that we can protect our own. Even if we know I mean, it was so like I was like this is great that they're scared of us. I mean, sure I mean, I know that sounds extra. But what's important it? It's and it's still amazing. It's still amazing that you know, what happened with the Catholic church and considering that we were the ones who are being accused of being molesters. Yes. And meanwhile, they were running the biggest molesting ring that that the United States has ever seen. Yes. These are true things. I lived in Boston at the time. I was in Boston. Wow. When this all happened while. Yeah. I was I had a pretty front row seat for the whole experience going back to the movie. There's no molesting in the movie. There's no Melissa one bit of molestation. It was there in an early version. No, I'm blessed thing. Molesting your at this place right now the cat getting. This new this new path out to people that you haven't had in the past. And India, you know, what you would want to do next. Well, I'm writing something with peg Healey as I mentioned. I'm you know, I will continue to work. I have my beloved acting troop, I informal informal acting troop and. I have been thinking, I mean, I know it's ridiculous. But I have been thinking of making a low budget superhero movie where it was all women. Superheroes who have dubious power. But that's a thought that occurs to me. Yes. So I would like to keep making my movies, which are a little unusual. I would say yeah by enjoyable. Yeah. And and also like, yeah. A little unusual and also. I'm inter I'm I'm happy to hear that. Or it's interesting to hear that you're next that you didn't say like, well, then I'm going to make something bigger budget. Or I want to move in this direction. You're like I will continue to be me. And I will make this next idea. That's pretty that's pretty interesting to get to place and to feel like, you know, what I wanna do is continue to do things. I've already been doing 'cause it's kind of my only option. I mean, they don't really for women doing these low budget movies. It's not the path to Hollywood than it is for male, indie filmmakers, so there's that. But at the same time for me having made while nights with Emily that has like really three women leads. Yeah. Written and directed by women about a woman poet, it's really exciting. 'cause honestly we don't get a lot of movies where where the protagonists and the tag inists as we are in this film. That's definitely true. I also didn't. I mean, I I'm like aware of in have seen your other movies. I didn't realize this was you going into watch movie. I just didn't. I just didn't put it together. I didn't look it up. And I will just say like I felt we walked out of this movie. And I said, oh, the Elizabeth made that and my friends that were that were with me were like, how do you know is like one of your? Earners in Jackie Montanes. Those those two people would never be like like, they're amazing. But they're so disparate like from disparate s- old unless you know, what connects like I was like, oh, this is a lesbian. Also, it's made with like with the care that I think a quick person we've put into it. But it was so nice like the stamp like that just made me really happy until like recognize stamp. Yes. And also another way that you can tell it's made by lesbian is someone at Wikipedia wrote up a competing and treat for me. I didn't ask them to they did it. And if you go to my this Wikipedia page that they created and click on personal life. There's one sentence. It says Madeleine only is a lesbian. That's all there is and the lesbian is hyperlinked. If you don't know what that means to another page at defines, lesbian and all from New York City. So you can if you don't know it and lesbian or New York City means you can find out from my Wikipedia page, but if somebody got to your Wikipedia page having no concept of either New York or lesbianism like then that is a very specific person. It's a great, maybe it's a foreigner alien. Maybe it's a space alien. And you would know. Oh, yes. So I wanted to say one sentence. Personal life. We have got a huge listenership, maybe somebody could add a second sentence. What would you want to do more? She likes to tell jokes choice to tell jokes linked to jokes actually yelling jokes link. Just linked to cameras was for jokes. Just right. And then we're linked is been such a pleasure. Speaking to you. Thank you for making this happen so quickly, and I just before essentially back into your dad just when ask you to shout out a queer. Oh, which is a person or it could be placed or thing that made you feel like you can be who you are today. Well, that would obviously would be only Dickinson. Because I'm telling you the. The writing the the thing that another thing that we didn't know about Emily Dickinson. That was kept from us was that she had a great sense of humor. And she was a true Queiro because she continued doing her writing refusing to make changes that people suggested to make it more conventional and she kept working at it. Despite the fact that the world did not encourage her to, but she had Susan and Susan encouraged her to and they loved each other and she kept writing. So she is my ideal. And I have to keep writing the spite every. Dissuade everything. Well, I. I would say thank you actually for like the service that you did for our family in making this movie. I'm so glad it was you the told the story he did it so early. And then like, I interview you if that gets a few more people out to the theater would be awesome. I is a way of passing along in. So anybody that's listening. You know, I just I feel like one thing that we can do as queer people is just at the very least like try to shine a light on each other. So I think for doing that in this. Absolutely. And also, it is fun to go to the movies gets fun. You know? Covered almonds. I laughed with my mom. I have milk in milk Detrick. Good popcorn. And there's lots of it's playing at a lot of theaters that have reclining seats. So and drink holders. It's really at something. You can do that. You can feel good about that. Also feels good. It's a date. It's a date movie two. It's a date movie. It's a movie you can see with your mother as you. You can see it with grandparents who can see it with our teenage children every it's just takes all comers. So that's right. That's right. Well, thank you. Congrats. Us so much. Yeah. Thank you.

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Repodcasting 34  The Flintstones

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Repodcasting 34 The Flintstones

"Podcasting is part of the BERTA podcast network locally grown community supported. You ever watched the movie and wondered why Cast Willman or that guy here's our chance to give it a try re podcasting. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Re podcasting I'm Lucille. Has. Gone Janet. Good, good. Excited to talk about the flintstones. Are You I am yeah. had. You ever seen this movie before. Okay and every podcasting history. This is the first movie that I could not get through. And in. A half hour of this movie. was just. So in. Credibly. Awful I like I just couldn't I couldn't. I couldn't do it unlike even I can't even speak properly I just. Like not into it so Sorry a wow. Okay The recasting, we only retest one character but. I only watch half an hour. and. I only know what happened during the first half hour that was. Well, there might be spoilers ahead. I hope you don't mind. Laugh. Okay. Okay. So I do have a question. Then did you watch the flintstones cartoon? Child. Okay I thought so okay. I also loved the cartoon as a child. I. Still Love it and I would have been like maybe fourteen or fifteen. When I saw this movie, I didn't see it in cinemas but I like I. Don't know when it was on TV or video or something like that and I remember thinking it was like I remember dreading it because I loved the cartoon so much and thinking that there's no way they could do it justice or anything in that I watched as a coke that wasn't so bad. And then watching it again now for the first time since whatever ninety, five more or less. I still thought it was okay like it's for kids. It's silly and it's supposed to be silly I think it's uneven too. I think as a lot of problems intone. Exactly that's way. Yeah. I mean, we can talk about. We will definitely will definitely get into that. Okay. So then were you able to find books off his stats? The budget was forty six, million and the box office was three, hundred, twenty, one, million. So, obviously, I mean it was a commercial success but not critical, right like it was a critical fail because you know reading reviews for it. It was slammed so hard by critics and. that. I don't know all I. can see in a sense why it made so much money. Because it's one of those movies that. I don't. Like it's that kind of movie that mainstream. Is like. then. It's made thirty years after. Yeah, it was made thirty years after the original properties. So you have like the original cartoons played throughout my childhood, your childhood throughout decades. So everybody at any age pretty much knew it and you know parents may be WanNa to take their young kids to it to be like, ooh, it's the Flintstones we love the flintstones. So yeah to me it totally makes sense that it made that much money even if it's good or not good. People, have it's like you're saying a lot of people watches children's so there's that nostalgia factor. There's an affinity for it, but also one thing that you remember about this movie and then in doing my research like it came up as well. With, a lot of marketing. The marketing was huge and Like a partnered up with Nick Donald I still have the happy meal toys at my parents, House. Remember did partnership with McDonald's shoes. So I'm sure. The Bush with the marketing certainly didn't hurt them right. Yeah definitely. and it's you know I really appreciate how ambitious the movie is. They really went all out on like know set design and. The the flintstones car, and like I don't know everything they did and one thing that I read was the cast was all barefoot because that's how they were on the show and so there was no glass allowed onset. But so yeah, the like there are a lot of things that they did that I felt were really really like made it a faithful adaptation, a lot of ways. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum, there are these moments where it's just like wait. Are you sure this is the flintstones like there moments that are so lake sexualize the flintstones weren't like that it was it was weird. It was very uneven in tone for sure I'll. I'll say that. Okay. So the synopsis that I wrote is Fred Flintstone unwittingly gets promoted to an executive position to be a patsy in a swindle of slate and company, and it affects his friendship with the rebels. So okay. You got thirty minutes in was Fred already promoted at that point. It was really. This is not an enjoyable experience. Have sorry we have to relive it now. Really I thought this was really awful. Based on like the rotten tomatoes score. A lot of people agree with me or there was something is wrong tomatoes and what's the other one metacritic IMDB yeah? They're both really bad. Do them at the end of this but yeah. Okay so That's like a preview for when I say the ratings. Really. Yeah it's fine. It's a joke Okay. Well, let's take a break and then we'll get into the recasting. 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She did actually won a lot of razzies that year. Oh like when we talk about Trivia, I'll go through them. With quite a few. I don't know that makes me feel bad because I'll say this I remember at the time and even when looking at. Reviews now. A lot of adjust seems to be, oh, she's not the right body type for betty rubble. She's to overweight I don't know it just. It really really bothered me that people were angry about her being cast in that role because her waist isn't twenty inches. But. That's not why I didn't like. Okay So tell me why you what you didn't like about Rosie O'Donnell as betty rebel. Role. I mean it has nothing to do with her body type or whatever. I just think she's completely wrong for it. Okay. Well, how about you go first? Then who would you replace her with? No, I think you should go first you picked the well I? Didn't. I didn't really like I picked this movie just because I had seen it on lists and stuff it's not even that I wanted to recast her don't get me wrong I think we can improve the casting. I'm not saying she's the perfect buddy rebel, but I was totally fine with her I thought she was okay. The reason that she had won the role in the first place was the director's wife Alison Levant had seen her perform and went to her husband. Now I forget his name. Is it berry something event the director and she told them oh I found your betty rubble. So she did an audition and I, guess, even for the audition like they called her Rosie O'Donnell did not think. So she said that she just tried to play it for laughs and then when she did the betty rebel giggle and that sounded exactly like betty rubble. Kind of what won them over they had also been considering Janine. Turner at that time. She's from the TV show northern exposure because I guess she looks more like Betty but Rosie ended up winning. Hate her in the RAW. No. You like her. I liked her. I. Didn't love her I liked her. I don't know I. I liked the mole to a certain extent. I loved Shawn Goodman in the role I? Honestly think he was a great Fred Flintstone and then Wilma I was fine with and then Barney I was actually going to ask to recast him to but uh, fight with him as well. Did you pick to replace Rosie O'Donnell? Okay. So I have two choices and my number one choice is paget brewster. Now she was twenty five at the time and she had not done much yet. So it really would have been one of those like unknown pick. So in reality, she probably wouldn't have ever been able to get it I was just about to say for anybody who doesn't know who she is She was Joey and Chandler's girlfriend Cathy on friends, and that was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven, and this movies from ninety four she steadily working ever since ninety seven she was in community thrilling adventure another period she's done lots of animation. Oh, she was in criminal minds for one hundred and ninety four episodes. Known for I think she did criminal minds for years. Yeah. I've never seen it. That's why to me. That's not she's best known for but yeah, absolutely that would be the the main credit on her filmography and she had done one TV show in ninety three, ninety, four called strange America. So she technically was working at the time but yes, nobody would have known her and with a movie of this level, there's no way she would have gotten it but she would have been great. because. Why did you pick her? Why do you think she would have been good for the role so as I said, I've never seen criminal minds and all of the other things I mentioned are mostly comedies. So I know her as a hilarious actor improviser I think she has a really. To Me Betty rebel is the fun bubbly neighbor who let's face it like she doesn't have a lot of lake. What's the word? I don't WanNa say depth but it's kind of like like she's a very lighthearted character. Kirch? Of course but I wouldn't call Fred a light hearted character at all. He's dark and complex. I would say, I, wouldn't call him complex but he's not lighthearted like he gets angry. So easily he's he's not. Fun and. Light. Whereas to me Betty is. And I've seen paget brewster be really funny a lot too. So I, I don't know I think she would have been amazing. I didn't like her on friends. Like. I never understood why people side while I also just don't like friends period I'm not a fan of show. But I never understood why people like her on that show I don't know I have that the only comedy that I've seen her do. So I think I would have to see the other comedy work she's done I don't know the people do like her on friends I mean she She was the cause of a lot of problems. So. Yeah. The Lakers though interesting. Okay. That's nice to hear. I certainly did not like Cathy. I thought she was Whatever anyway, it doesn't matter. I like. paget brewster. So my second choice is Sandra Bullock. Yes she's just a year younger than Rosie O'Donnell. So Age wise. I think she fits the role fine because I think Brazil was well cast in terms of ages well, and she was working a lot at that point. She had actually been in five movies in Nineteen ninety-three the only one that I knew demolition man and then in nineteen ninety-four with speed. So that was kind of like her big break. Yeah, and then the flintstones was also nine, hundred, ninety four. So I think it could have worked with her in there and she's also somebody who I think can be really funny and she's got that kind of lighthearted personality or she can show that. So yeah, I. Think she would have been super fun as Betty rebel. Is. Free agreed actress. Period think. I usually enjoy her best when I see her comedic roles. Yeah. Me Too. Actually. End Demolition man she was like to me the. The shining light of the movie. It's silly like I wouldn't recommend it or anything, but she's really fun in it. and. So Janet, who did you bake I also had to traces my first choice. I don't know that she would have been cast. As study. Rebel. because. In nineteen ninety four, she would have still been an unknown however I totally. See Her as that he rebel and it's Molly Shannon ooh Goodie in I don't know I just I'm like, yeah that's by rebel right there. But the thing is she hadn't been tasked like she was on Saturday night live in nineteen, ninety five. So No, one would've known her obviously there's no we should ever gotten task in this movie but based on the timing of it but yeah, I could. Totally. Her role a ever make another flintstones movie they should cast her wrong. I. Think she'd be amazing. So I don't know that she would have been a viable choice for that time period circa nineteen, ninety-four but the other person I thought would have. I don't know I think she would have done a good job for sure because she's excellent. At comedy and I think she could have captured the betty role. Spirit is Julia Louis Dreyfus. I almost picked her. Could totally fever? As, steady rubble as well. As like would be able to. pull. It off for sure. She could she is to me one of the greatest comedic actresses. And so yeah, I mean I think that both just had like like that's the thing about betty like that he is. Just super likable like mailings betty rebel thing. Yeah, like she's got she's like that fun a super likable neighbors, Siri Amenable. So I don't know I can see both those. Playing. that. That's good. I think molly knowing Molly Shannon now yes. She would have been amazing of Molly Shannon. Yeah I really love her. Okay well. Can I ask you then what it was about Rosie O'Donnell that you thought why she wasn't right for the part? For starters, I don't fake Rosie O'Donnell. Can Act. That's a good reason. If. You Really WanNa know. Honestly. act. That she gets any acting jobs or that she had gotten any acting jobs is a big Joe. Yeah like I just think that she's not talented. One of these people who I mean she's made it in Hollywood, but it's awful of me of how she's made it because there's nothing appealing about her I think whatsoever. So yeah, that's my answer. Okay. I don't think it requires anymore explanation and no. Yeah like she was completely miscast. In that role fixtures, she's not betty rubble at all I don't care if her voice found certain. If, she could do a laugh big deal. Pairing her and Rick Moranis I was all wrong too. I mean. Realistically, it is a pretty. Thin premise to catch someone based on their life. Like that and I will give you this I agree that she's not. A strong actor. The thing is half the time I'm sorry. We've been doing this long enough now that like half the time you read these stories about how certain people get cast. And it's a joke. It's on a whim. It's like all this. This producer likes this person or this director lakes this person for whatever reason or they have the same agent or you know it's always often like some arbitrary reason and the person's not even well suited for the role, but it strictly all connections. Yeah. A lot of the Times. You know like I think that that's the case with this whole Rosie O'Donnell thing Like it just seems a pretty flimsy reason to to cast her. It's like it just sounds like no faultless put into. I know it does like forever when you read the story of how she got chosen, it's it is kind of weird. But anyway. All right. Well I think any of the four people that we chose would be better. Okay. So in terms of like you know Trivia and Whatnot Oh actually I did want to mention so yeah I read some reviews that were like mostly almost all of them really trashing the movie but it was funny one thing that I saw that kept turning up in like at least three different reviews was they were complaining a boat the puns like Oh there's all these rock puns and this and that and it's like so you've never seen the show because the cartoon was all rock puns that's what they do. So I'm not like against Puns I'm not four poems, but I'm totally fine with him in this movie that is based on a property that is riddled with puns. I just found it funny that that kept coming up in negative reviews. I think it was just. You. Know I mean like I only watched half an hour of it because I thought it was bad. So like I don't know how anyone sicher this. I really don't. It's awful. It's really awful I don't know in terms of script like did. What I thought it was pretty lame. The script. Maybe, it's an even Belgian thing for me too because I was totally fine with it. I'm not totally fine. I had problems with it, but I was at that overall. You often like movies. That are you know like you have an affinity for some of these movies that other people don't like but you like? Agree. Sir. I don't know what I've noticed like you often will bike stuff that. No one else. Really. Like Xanadu for. Okay that's a good example. I guess so. These I do maybe that's what it is. Maybe I watched too many bad movies and my tastes have gone along Keno. Maybe to you this is a great movie I don't know. But compared to all the bad movies that you watch. Maybe this is exemplary filmmaking. This is not exemplary filmmaking. I think what happens to me too is It's very much about managing expectations. So I know how bad the ratings are I know how much it was disliked. So going into it maybe like I'm coming in expecting rock bottom. So it just has to be not utter shit for me to be like, okay it's not that bad. Good. Expectations this. Sitting down that I was completely expecting it be shit show. And it was like I can't watch. Suggest this is awful. So like I said, I mean I'm not GonNa sit here and go on and on and on about how much I hated it because I already have done that and I only watched half an hour so. I agree with every died review that I read I was like, yes. Yes. Okay. All, right. Well. As usual we don't agree on the movie. I wouldn't say it's is usual all because there are often there are lots of movies that we agree on. There have been some I mean in terms of movies that we have recast Avi Rally Lake where recasting them for a reason, right? I don't think it matters whether we agree on this or not none of them. No, it's totally fine. I saw some alternate Fred's and Wilma's that I wanted to mention because I thought they were interesting. The. People who they were considering for Fred Flintstone at various points because this is a movie that. Quite. A few years in the making. So there was Jim Belushi, Dan Aykroyd. Bill Murray and Chevy Chase. Apparently this is what I read. I am DB I don't know where it came from. So take it with a grain of salt. These people were all deemed too skinny to play. Fred Flintstone and that it would be tacky to put them in a fat suit. So that's why ultimately none of them were cast. But then I also read that. Which one was it? Maybe Spielberg, he produced right that at some point he was working with. John Goodman and he said to him like. Oh you're gonNA be Fred Flintstone. So then that also makes it sound like there was no one else considered. So I I don't really know what to believe. flowery about. As still burke wanted him all along with the RAW. An. Excellent John, I. Think she was a good choice and quite frankly in most of the negative reviews. His performance was still often praised at least somewhat. Better. Points and. Now some alternate Wilma's I saw were Geena Davis. Catherine O'Hara and faith Ford. And when I saw that because I thought Elizabeth Perkins was fine but a little bit dull to be honest and I would have loved to have seen Catherine O'Hara as Wilma Flintstone. I'm not sure. I think she was on Murphy Brown. Oh. Yeah I believe that's Listen Perkins she was. Yes. She didn't like rubbed me the wrong way, but I think there could have been somebody better. Okay. So now it's time for the ratings at Jeff. You mentioned that you did have some trivia. So let's do that. I was just a lot of. Course young that year. So Rosie O'Donnell won for worst supporting actress. It also went for worst screenplay. Worst remake. For sequel and that Elizabeth Taylor was also. Nominated and won for worst supporting. Full. Yeah and it was. Words, it was her last role. So that's kind of sad. Realistic Taylor. She was also horribly cast. You don't. Only. Make Elizabeth Taylor like what actress she was and Mike. This is her last movie. Is. The last year, he's a sham. I don't know why they her in that role to lake. It seems like they were so obsessed with everybody looking exactly like their characters but I remember Wilma's mother looks like and Elizabeth Taylor is not it so I don't know why they picked her to begin with. I don't even remember Wilma having a mother on the car jus. De no she'd be on here and there she'd visit sometimes. With I haven't seen the cartoon in years so I wouldn't know but. It was like eight eight to put wellness. Yeah. I was reading one thing where the person was complaining about the movie and saying that it's supposed to be kids but they tackle things like. Problematic relationships between a man and his mother-in-law or you know the sexual practically sexual harassment at work and embezzling money, and so you've got all these things happening throughout that it's like. Is this a kids movie. Kids maybe be like that's the thing you can't make a kids movie and then have all these adults storyline. Yeah. It makes sense. It's completely incongruous rain. It's. All right I feel like the more we talk the more you're convincing me and I Oh boy. Action. Not easily well, but like I think a big part of it is the nostalgia factor for me and that's fine. I will still like it but it is. It's not that I. Watch it thinking this is an example of good filmmaking. I just watch it and think, ooh, the flintstones yea. Well Yeah. Sure anyone who really has an affinity end a love for the cartoons like just go watch it. I'm sure you can find it anywhere. Everything's on Youtube. Whatever I don't know. But I'm sure you could find episodes on their lake but I mean it's you know like they always do this with with you know how many times has Hollywood done this room yeah. Steph. That we loved his kids and I mean, it did make a lot of money. So yeah what? What I find funny is they do it again and again they'll take an old TV show and turn it into a movie and it's Very, rare that it works or that I mean I'm not GonNa, say works in terms of making money because clearly this did so you can call it a success in that way, but it's very rare that it works critically or that it's like a movie that is fondly remembered. So like you said, just watch the TV show. Already, well, let's go into the ratings. So Yup Janet you're right. They're abysmal on IMDB. It has thirty eight percent and that is from fifteen critics and on rotten tomatoes it has a twenty two percent from forty five reviewers. So yeah, it's pretty bad. Rotten tomatoes. Film critics or is that just regular people? Well, it's both. But they're reviewers are film critics and people who I don't know how they get the accreditation. And then they have a separate score for just like users of the site for audience. I don't usually pay much attention to those ratings to be honest. But I think it's interesting that the ratings were. So low. And yet, this movie was such a commercial success because I find sometimes with movies that are have been really successful and made a lot of money that the rotten tomatoes especially will be the ratings be higher some time. Yeah. You know what's funny too is often you'll see because rotten tomatoes has those two scores from reviewers and one from audience a lot of times you'll see like a really low score from the reviewers and then a decent score from audience but this one, even the I I didn't write it down but it was around like thirty seven percent or something like even the audience score was Super Berlow. I don't know who would well I mean. This movie I don't know I did not. Definitely. Play. I remember back then painting De. Look like something that I would enjoy. And you were right. Okay. So let's take our last break before moving onto our final segment. 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Is that the reason He deserves it because he's Tony Danza he should have like she should be the star and also look I liked him him playing like that allows you know bossing everyone around being really loud and obnoxious sometimes I think. It would be fun to see Tony do that I think that would be funny but I bet people would have revolted if he had been cast. So I gave him the villain role of cliff Vander Cave played by. Kyle mclachlan. Wanted to be a villain. Yeah. I wanted him to have the sexier role of like being the bad guy. People, might think it's pretty sexy. That's fair. He's Yeah That's a good enough reason for sure. Now. Burn. Fred. He's not a Bernie rebel. We should probably bring it up because we're talking about Tony Danza but there is big news in the Tony Danza world. So for anybody who doesn't know it was recently announced that Tony Danza and Eliza Milano are going to be doing a WHO's the boss reboot not reboot what would you call it sequel continuation Okay let's say that's what I saw the called every day. Yeah. Okay. But yeah so it's GonNa be very characters this many years later. and. Now, Samantha is apparent and we don't know yet. If Angela we'll be in the picture or not. I'm actually really excited. They're finally doing this. I feel like this is a long time coming. Yeah I totally agree. Yeah. Like I'm assuming that it was probably a mater of. People. Couldn't coordinate their schedules and that's why they never did it because we've seen so many reboots of older shows. Over the last, you know few years right. But this one, it just makes sense that they would reboot this for sure and my big hope for this is that. So the season, one of WHO's the boss came out on DVD I don't know twenty years ago now probably and I bought it right away and I was so excited because like I'm sure season two's coming soon then season three and never any others were released. Yes I don't know if it didn't sell well or why or somebody else on the rates I really have no idea why I've tried to find a night couldn't so I'm hoping that this will make them. Somehow. You can watch them now on the TV APP I few. have it. Yeah, but I really want to have it for myself. So I'm hoping that they'll get released so that you can watch the whole series and then start watching the reboot. How many seasons were there eight? Oh I feel like I. Don't know I feel like we will this universe I love it. It was all this positive energy that we've been generating for Tony. Yet. I want I feel like we're responsible. Credit. You. Should. Go for it because what we actually literally said that we were GONNA try to will into the universe was getting him on our podcast. But if you have a new show, you need to do the rounds to promote it. Tore his first. Stop. On his press tour is yes. Our podcast are humble podcast God would be amazing. That would be a dream. But yeah, it was funny because. When I heard about it because you had messaged me and I hadn't heard about it yet, and then I was reading about it the following day I think Gertrude two days later whatever and I was like, wow. Lucienne I did this. Secret. Alec that. Book. It can it will happen like if you will it, it will happen and. This is it. We did. We got Tony Danza, a job. I'm very willing to take credit. So I am really excited and I'm looking forward to when it's finally ready and it so I think it'll be fun to watch. Yeah they're they're gonNA do with it but listen to one I'll had Kofi did you hear thought they didn't Really soon, oh. Yeah. Awful. She was. She wrote about it and she was She wrote about her experience and it really sounded horrifying. Just awful lot. She's okay now. I really really hope that they can manage to get judith light and any pinto at least for some episodes of this new thing. Especially, I mean. It was funny because reading if she thinks online they were saying, oh, it's not who's the boss without John and and Moan, and it's like who wrote this? Has. To, wait for start. He can't have. You'RE GONNA use a holograms like why would anybody even say that and but Jonathan? Yeah like I'm sure they'll have them for. You to play for sure I can't see her Ni-. Participating. Exactly. I mean her and Tony got back together at the very end on the last episode. So I deeply hope that they don't have to write in this like I, Dunno divorce story or something like that. That would me out. It'll be interesting to see what they do. And we will be talking about it. Oh my gosh. Who's WHO's The repeal boss? WHO's the report never mind? We should definitely do a WHO's the bus show that that'd be so fun. Okay. So I think that does it for the Flintstones and for twenty dollars at this week are this month and you have any. For movies that we should recast, you can send those to. Re. PODCASTING G. DOT com you can find us on all the social media platforms re podcasting, and for next month we have. So next month is up Tober I when the episode drops and we typically do like. A So. Bad. It's scary movie but this is when we've been talking about and trying to fit in for a little while and it's not so bad. It's scary. But it is kind of scary movie I guess kind of Halloween Ish. We're going to be recasting the craft starring Neve Campbell, Rachel True Robin Tunney and Feroza Ball. It is a ninety s delight so And I'm very much looking forward to watching it again, it is available on. I think it was on to be Horsey TV. Yeah look for it online platforms and you'll find it. So that's it for this month. Thanks for joining me as always Janet. By.

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Michelle Trachtenberg, Leslie Jordan & The Indigo Girls

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Michelle Trachtenberg, Leslie Jordan & The Indigo Girls

"They wanted no pain pain fame. Welcome to weekly the podcast and everything you need to know about the celebrities. You don't. I'm Bobby Finger. I'm Lindsey Weber and this is a review of Disney pluses elephant with the headline elephant. You'll never forget wait. I want to hear the clip. I want to hear the review. It's not out yet. What do you mean? I have to add a clip in post until until Friday. Today is Thursday. As you're listening to the episode you could just hop on busy plus and watch elephant starring. Duchess of Sussex Megan but currently as recording. We don't have the clips on reading a thing that I might work. Iniquity movie magic conflicting. Do I feel like reediting this at midnight? We'll see catch me midnight. Although what else am I doing? You could like sure you can prepare yourself to really slide in that clip. I could I could I could. But then you have uploaded bricks. Will he do it? And you'll know because you're listening to it and will there be a clip at right now. I just know. Glam look I'm awake. It's twelve five. Am An elephant is not there. I've served I've logged out. I've logged back and it's not there now. It's telling me new Disney plus built last song. No no I want the elephant and I'M NOT GONNA keep waiting until three. Am Pacific Time or whatever. It's not there and I tried. And this is the best you're GonNa get from me because I need to go to sleep amazing okay. So if there was a clip their great job self. You did a good job you got up. I'm really not listening to this. Still listening to this. This is a decidedly disneyfied production from the soundtrack strongly reminiscent of music from the Lion. King to the filmmakers assigning names to the three lead elephant characters to the narration. From one Meghan Markle the actress parentheses suits. Who has who has returned to work. After a hiatus from show Biz in which she married some fellow named Harry and lived in England for elephants family is. Everything says markle sounding for all the world like a preschool teacher reading to her class anyway Apparently elephant is good currently. I haven't watched it but again maybe at midnight I will have launched. I mean how could it be bad? It's elephants poop in and live in and moving with the voice of Meghan Markle. How much could she screw up a good nature documentary or a decent maker nature documentary? He's not gonNA take it to that next level. She really but she isn't going to destroy it you know know. How could she yeah? She's a professional. Yes she is. I just loved it attests narrated by Meghan. It's just it's so amazing that she's just Meghan because I don't necessarily think she's at that level yet though. I think she is really. I think yes. Yeah Oh yeah I mean. I don't know I just like if you said Megan to me I wouldn't necessarily you would know this. You Mohlala who you could say mullaly if I said. Oh did you see the news about Meghan you would be like which Mecca Bullshit. You would never say which mega because you. If you were telling me the news. I would know you were talking about Meghan Markle but maybe you would be talking about Megan Fox. Or you're telling me about Meghan Rappeneau. Are you telling me about Meghan Barton? Hanson? Maybe you were telling me about Megan hilty or Megan Meg Tilly. Take your trolling me. Mega the monogamous Meghan. She's the Meghan. Megan hilty believable. What about Megan Williams the Instagram Star Megan Mace Popstar or a Megan Guthrie Youtube Star? Talk Star this is the worst bellion. What a bargain. Yeah what about making? What if what if I said? What did you hear the news about Meghan? I said Yeah. What's happening with our friend? Meghan Reynolds you wouldn't think that. Try Me Okay okay. You're listening to WHO? Is there a weekly call in show where we take your questions? Comments concerns at six one nine who them by check. Obviously we're fighting. Obviously vibe is much better than it was Monday. I gotta say my Monday was low. This five is fine. That's because Bobby's two pieces came on the same day notice. That did you guys rebounds fun. Did you read his book? Review an his covers digital cover story for the cut. I write book reviews. Now Yeah you can read my profile of the Dairies Marshall of cheer on the cut. Yeah I just rubbish as I didn't write it. It's a good hat. I think it's good. It's good it's a good head but I think there's it's like that's that's great those beautiful photos great gowns. Yeah Yeah Gorgeous vibes better vibes more upbeat Beye. We're you know we're it's Thursday. Another week is almost done. Feel almost feel accomplished about this weirdly. Yes I do too like. I feel I feel like this week. We did stuff. Yeah nobody also just feel every week that ends. I'm like that was on compliment to me because we because we did it like. That's because we did it because time is now as an accomplishment as whatever you get done during the day. I'll see you get nothing under the dates still an accomplishment to pass the day because it's a challenge should be restricted. I know I finally understand unchained melody I get it I get it. I'm GonNa Watch ghost again. It'd be like Yep exactly does move by fucking slow and it's an accomplishment versus just to slog so I think when the weekends I feel there's like a perspective shift where I feel like well like that's crazy that it's been three weeks we can we please move on. Let's get to like our thing staring window. At least my neighbors my neighbors who refuse and I understand that it's Corinthian and the you shouldn't be buying non-essential stuff. Yeah but like now is the time for curtain. You should buy them curtain. You've been so long and I know they've lived in that apartment for years because I've checked the street easy. I know they moved in like twenty. But if you put up a little sign on your window. That said curtains seriously just curtains but I can't keep talking about my neighbors. Let's listen to calls. We got some comments. Let's start with this one. Do Hi this would like light. You know that can cut alcyone. Llc is actually Kim's a princess That's it Pretty much. That's pretty much have to say so French French fine. Hey Lindsay and bobby So a lot of articles about kristen. Valentine's shepherd actually listed the name of their LLC is called previous property l. c. p. r. I. N. G. US. Google what the word previous means and urban dictionary brought up that it's a term that means apple but it's video game slang and typically directed at somebody who's shooting you kind of like you know someone socks and there are new. I guess attacking us our upbringing. So I can't say I'm surprised that they would choose something cheeky like that And of course like probably the antithesis of what we underline sort of predicted like sunshine and rainbows but Yeah there you go bringers property. Good for Bill Horne Kim's a princess I remember that from Kardashian Kim's a Princess Kim's a Princess Inc and she did it in two thousand seven games. I mean it's a but it's all one word Kim's a Princess Inc Khloe Clo- but then there was also clo- mar whenever she was with Lamar she had a CLO- Mar. Dino Courtney says now to the number two to die four number four court to die for courts do they think these are vanity plates. I'm so confused. I guess maybe they are Vandy. Plays Essentially Kylie's as King Kylie LLC. Which I feel like we knew and Kendall says can you guess what? Kendall's Kenny Kenny. Kenny Corp Kendall Jenner Inc Candles. The only smart one once again candles. I'm not engaging with this. I'm not doing this. I tried to find like ultimate lists of celebrity. Llc's but I feel like for the most part they don't just put them out there and we got out there for some reason east. I wonder if a lot of them are purpose because those crashing winds are obviously clearly them. But I'm sure a lot of the LLC names for celebrities are kind of twos for a reason to keep you from knowing there that it's them behind the thing. Whatever that's something someone else can dig into or we can but we did not for today. I did find this. This is funny when Jennifer Aniston purchased two new penthouse in New York. This is from two thousand eleven. It was reportedly under quote Norman's Nest. Trust Norman was the actresses beloved terrier Corgi Mix. That died recently at age. Fifteen so by trusts you can buy things through your. Llc's I mean it's like there's so many options here. Britney and Kevin Veterans House was bought under the love Shack Trust. Oh my God. That's almost romantic. It's almost that describes their relationship. Okay next call Lindsey. I can not believe that. You Food Match Eric. And we all literally heard you on the podcast within in two thousand sixteen. What are you doing play? Clip here of Lindsey talking to Max Ehrlich. I am so excited. Because we've got to amazing sensual beautiful stunning blowing my mind in every single way guests so today we have Max. Eric was in Lindsey Weber. Yeah wow this is so exciting on it you too. I feel. There's going to be like a peanut butter. Jelly peanut butter chocolate solution. Maybe magical mix gonNA be eating constantly. Cinnamon Cinnamon Swirl right now. I love it. Okay Lindsey you Max Ehrlich. How dare you forget him? I don't know him. I met him doing them. A podcast. See. The thing is that. Here's my like admission as to not that he was forgettable okay. He was totally forgettable but like he hadn't he did not come up again since since two thousand sixteen for me like. I did that. Podcast in two thousand sixteen right. It's been four years right and are you like I'm sure he's been busy like his name has not come up in my life since then in all. I do is look at celebrity bullshit. So you'd think like this would be somebody who I would see right. I would see his name and I look at all different types of celebrity bullshit not just like whatever but like he hasn't come up at all and so this was the first time so I completely forgot and even all of his credits and looking at his face did not jog the memory. I'm so disappointed and also disappointed at myself for not remembering every podcast. You've ever been on. What other yeah. I mean we've been on a few hot gas. I do remember doing podcast like and also that podcast is a great one. It's the it was the this week had me like. He had me like Sarees along native along the Carolina Goldfarb. Yeah Carolina and it's come and it's coming back and I was GonNa do it again and whatever scheduling got messed up. Thanks to you know what and I didn't. I didn't doing it while I was in Los Angeles. But it's a great pod. It's so fun and loved being on it and it's just so funny that this was the guy that I was on it with now eating w levato. Hi lyndsay bobby postings driver I love the AUSPEY FRAMEWORK. I think you should call it the oldest O P I s and then you can have your magnum opus. The WHO's magnum opus Women doping on Blues. I think that's just really smart. Just moving the letters around we shouldered auspey opus. I love it. It's our mack magnum opus. But it's bound opie. I S Mr. Will you know somebody suggested nepotism to its Ogilby gold? He could notice but I feel like nepotism is not a desirable thing. It's almost more impressive. If you're not nepotism so we should probably leave it out thinking of this as an award not as like look at. He got it something that you worked hard for. Something you earned and nepotism if you check out the facebook group they have a A. Somebody started an amazing dock that has the opus written. And then people are filling in the opus different celebs and seeing who has won the opus. God bless a Hooligan love spreadsheets high? Who weekly longtime long time I heard you guys talking about Alexa. I feel like you're remiss to not mention her American have stint as the host of. It's on with Alexa Chung on MTV it was supposed to be A sterile replacement back in two thousand eight nine and it was actually really good. She was very quirky and had tons of personality and have celebrities and whatnot on. But then with you your things like mini golf on TV or like dress up in weird costumes. And that's actually where I found out about her and thought she was like supercharging And kept telling her but I would say. Her book is really bad anyways. scholar getting thoughts saying her book is really bad. Reminded me of so after our episode went up my friend. Ben Texted me and was like these are my favorite Alexa Chung quotes. Oh 'cause he's British. He's British British. You're definitely familiar. Oh yes photo of a magazine that he had circled like. This is not like a screen shot from a website. He sent me you know. His research has violent Alexa Chung right and one of them was. I kind of wish I was gay. It would make life so much easier. She says I have like a million girl mates. I would love to date. And he's like okay and then this is a this is a quote from her book that this caller said is bad. Lowly is my favorite book. She's also my favorite character reference. When getting dressed in summer months obviously this look at age dependent but until people start doing rotten tomatoes at me in the street. It's an inspiration I'm willing to plunder. I love her heart shaped glasses. Heart shaped glasses so cool also the hot pants and cropped Blouse Combo the matching that she bikini with high waisted shorts pigtails. It can look ridiculous. If you're under sixteen or over twenty-five but I'm willing to keep paying tribute to the limbaugh literary icon we. I love that like. It's not just a quick quote a thought. It's like a thought through thought like. Oh yes ongoing paragraph. It's a paragraph about how much she loves LOLITA oppressing like her imagine master. Like you close Lalita. And you're like I loved her style. Oh honey I'm going straight to a sauce okay. Next Call Linden. Poppy longtime on time. I just discovered that Jason Derulo. Those real name was related. Jason for low but it is spelled D. S. R. O. U. L. E. A. U. X. Living the laptop live. I didn't know this. How do they not know this? I didn't know this he's from. He's from New Orleans. Right Derulo Jason. Derulo he's from New Orleans. Oh his parents were Haitian his parents were. Haitian okay okay. These from Florida grew up in New Orleans. His parents are. Haitian the reason this comes up is because he says Oh names. I watched that. It's like what is Derulo. Where did that come from? And then you take one step and you find out. It's dental which is beautiful. So when you all just talking about Ellen Barkin L. did not mentioned that. When she was married to Ron Perlman he gave her divorce papers and so she sold the jewellery that she had given him an auction very publicly and if he doesn't six and it was super funny and I think they've made fun of it on an episode of Sex and the city but I can't really remember But anyway yeah. She sold all of her jewelry that he giving her because she was like. These are not the memories I wanted to wear which was Super Iconic Ellen Barkin. Because she's kind of she kind of comes to. Your House is like a little bit but in a great way but anyway. Oh my God. That's so that's so first wives club. It's really first wife slept. So there's a great near time story called Ellen unloads from September two thousand and it says Miss Barkin fifty two has chosen an equally public denouncement putting up for auction the extravagant Julie that Mr Perlman lavished on her having decided to part with more than one hundred pieces valued at fifteen million dollars a symbolic and literal purging of the Union. These are just not memories. I want to wear out every day. These are words. See this gorgeous gorgeous. I found a another article about a she. They have all the different pieces. She had a beautiful Lot of win a lot of a lot of Jade Jada Emerald. The apricot diamond ring a colored diamond thread ring by Jar. Only it's like gorgeous dark Orange Brown diamond and it says that it did inspire a scene from sex and city the movie when when Cottrell is like they're all at the auction and she bids on the the flower ring from the divorce. Who that you know that whatever? You can put a clip here if you want. That's incredible I did not know that I did not know that story. Wow she ascribed the recent upturn in her career to luck and the generosity of the movies owns thirteen. The movie's director Steven Soderbergh. And one of its producers Jerry Weintraub. She was sitting on the beach at a friend's education house after her divorce. Miss Barkin recalled mulling over her own contribution to the failure of her marriage. When her phone rang it was Jerry. Asking how are you doing? I said not so good. She recalled her eyes welling. He said quote. You're going to feel better in about thirty seconds. You're the female lead and ocean's thirteen so she was like I hate my life. My husband's forcing me. But guess what? She's the female lead notions thirteen percent. Call eight longtime listener Just listening to this week's WHO's Who's there and Tommy Dorfman and Andi Dorfman of the bachelorette thing our cousins K by. I was like I got a fact. Check this and fortunately I found my way to bustle. Dot Com and the headline Andi. Dorfman is related to Tommy. Dorman thirteen reasons. Why and their interactions on social media are too cute and then I got to see the interactions but the instagram's have since been deleted so there is well and he gave up there. There is a tweet from Andy Dorfman. That says so freaking proud of you at Tommy Dorfman at thirteen reasons. Why so okay. Who Andi Dorfman is a Bachelor Person She was the Bachelorette a few seasons ago and she was like yes. The New York. I think she's a lawyer A very good but I did like her. I do remember. But I'd forget her. She was on the Juan Pablo season. And then she was on the next season and she she picked a guy who ended up dumping do what how they're related. Yeah after Andi. Dorfman tweeted that we about thirteen reasons. Why yeah a random person responded Andi Dorfman? Do you watch thirteen reasons? Why is Tommy? Dorfman your cousin? If so that's amazing. Prayer hands parents parents. And Tommy responded. Yes we are related. Yes we are related. That's the confirmation. Works you all right well. I guess they're related. It's really hard to go to the gym now. Which is where I usually wear. My Ray on wireless ear buds. You know gyms are hard. But that doesn't mean I don't WanNa live wireless lifestyle Lindsay. Wha what did I tell you? I did recently own my God. I connected my ear. Buds to the Apple TV. And I'm just sitting here watching it. I was like soon. You'RE GONNA watch it with the sound on. Here's my no. You're was josh from podcast in the other room at somewhat hot at especially if you're if you're quarantining with someone else and you need the the privacy you can connect the two things. I'm just continually shocked by blue technology. Because I'm not used to them. I watched a movie with my Rakhine ear. Buds connected to the Apple. Tv was like conic. 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She was playing off of this June Carter. Cash and Carl Smith Song called. Time's a wasting play clip here turning to listen to is so brutal so tough and rough it staff. It's rough it's tough. I've gone hands and you've got hands. Let's not get together but wash those hands. Let's go home social distancing. I was like Oh we talk about Michelle Trachtenberg and then I looked at Michelle Trachtenberg and I was like there's nothing to say about Michelle Trachtenberg. Nothing nothing. I tried her instagram as weird. Her instagram feels lost in time. Like it's truly an outlet for her like there's a lot of southeast and filters and just. Gabbing flashback Friday. GotTa is going to be rude to be like this is GonNa this is gonNA come off sober though but this caption has a very low early Lindsay Lohan vibe. Just like too much. No-one's mad at you over explaining but also like someone who's very like throwback Thursdays every day of my life because all people do as referenced like old characters that I played you know to me and it's making me crazy she is just like your prototypical. Board Child Star. Yeah and all of this stuff gets exacerbated whenever you are in quarantine like it's just very but yeah that's it. I do love early. Michelle Trachtenberg work like I. I love Terry at the great gossip. Girl Yeah I didn't watch gossip girl but I believe it take my word for it. That is the first time we played a call where someone used text to speech the call in which I find very fun and let. We'll probably never know against that. Don't do it. It's funny to think highlands him bobby I am to a quarantine walk and I just had called you guys use it this morning. I saw that Irwin got married yesterday. In a rush They were putting their wedding for a year Then this stuff happened and they wanted to have an actual wedding before they had to cancel it so they got married yesterday at an empty Australia Zoo with I think literally millionnaire except maybe brother and mom and tears But Yeah so. That's probably one of the least boring things. India's darn and Lyle she's also really precious and she's got to get married and she thinks about it because there was no one there So yeah good crunch crunch. Women don't belong to root finding details on the People magazine cover story of Reno Chronically Windier. Once wedding I was no longer mad for the reasons that this person brought up. They were taking precious. She is precious. She's a national. She's a national treasure. But I was watching the livestream okay. There was a live stream of this wedding which I don't understand how or why was it a drone that was filming it. Who was filming. There was a livestream of the set of this wedding and I watched the beginning of it or like and there were people around setting up stuff. It wasn't three people or whatever resists though. I think it may have just been the staff so there was still staff putting stuff together. There was still stuff I just. I don't really understand. I'm sure they want it to be like oh so safe. It was so did it up but like there was staff running around like doing stuff so I don't really know the true safe version would have been like you. Don't do it another time or just literally. Don't have the wedding you know. Just do it in your house but the people you're quarantining with people magazine was like we will pay you to do this. Because that's what I was gonNA say a cover that's not cova one thousand nine. I was going to ask you the same question because there was. This wedding was planned for later. This wedding could not have been on the cover of this particular week. So maybe they were like maybe they already had a deal to do an exclusive. You know a couple weeks later. That was like lar long out and they were like. Let's just push this up. I I don't know maybe and also these photos I don't. We don't know for certain that these photos were taken on their wedding day. You know good photos could have been taken. They could have taken a month ago. Good point so there's really no way to know but there are some good details. One of them is on March twenty fifth the Crikey. It's the Irwin Star. Twenty one and Powell twenty-three exchanged ideas. I love that in an intimate ceremony attended by quote. Lots of animals and just three guests bends mom. Terri her younger brother Robert and her late father's best friend West manion so even though it wasn't inside the book perfect. What was Steve Irwin? Sexy News. His name. Oh Rebecca Lobi Rebecca Lobi okay. So Rebecca Lobo was not there confirmed crikey Stevens. Hotness Rebecca Lobo flats or curves and a tiny red swimsuit amid self-isolation. This is from yes. So she's still making headlines Cool. What else happened with Mindy? Irwin's wedding? Well I just. I don't know I just feel like I want. I support Indie Irwin's happiness and I. I love this. You know. She's in. She's a national treasure and this is all very nice. I just I do suspect that people magazine was like you. GotTa have this wedding right now. We need on the cover because we're running out of stuff to put. They'll never really run at us up on the cover but like you know what I mean like. This was a big run them. This exclusive But what I was GonNa say was animal planet is on Discovery Inc. This story ends with this line. Crikey it's the Irwin's Bundy's wedding special premieres April Eighteenth at eight PM Eastern on Animal Planet. Animal Planet is a subsidiary of Discovery Inc and Discovery Inc and people magazine. They have a really long standing relationship so that helps explain quote as well wait. So here's my here's my other question to you. Sorry we're saying like. Oh we gotta get this on the cover but also if they filmed it for a wedding premier a wedding special. They're also probably was a contract in place for that for that. Yeah yeah they just pushed it up. They needed to have this wedding so they could film as they get it on. Tv also my question is what about the people who were filming it. Who WERE TAPING IT? Who the cameraman and all that like. I just don't want it to do the show they to do the cover they needed to move it up because it so you're telling me that four people were at this wedding. Sari Way. More than four people are at this wedding it was shot for TV if it was if it had any type of food or setting up or tables or whatever. I saw those people running around setting those things up on the livestream. I don't know what that livestream I don't know how valid that livestream was but imprinted with at and so I I don't know this quote unquote very small intimate wedding more of a production than I think. We're being told by this article. Oh for sure but at least they did do it before the stay at home order like they did they correct one ball but to sneak under the line is what they're trying to do is a little intense anyways. Okay how high who weekly first time long time can you please talk about Leslie Jordan? Because I don't really know who he is and I don't really feel like looking it up but he's making really great. Corinthian content AROMAS instagram. Thanks Living Libido Laptop Libido Laptop I love the Shirley Jordan Leslie. Jordan is a character actor known for being extremely southern extremely lake flamboyant like extremely gay just like the guest voice. He's sick as attitude. He's cuter he's CUTEST Q. Could be a lot of people knew him because of low will and grace. I didn't watch will and grace so this didn't mean anything to me but yeah he was so good at will and grace. That's probably how I know him lately. He was in the help as Emma. Stone's boss at the newspaper Ryan Murphy loves him. He's been in a lot of American horror stories because he's a TV character. Leaky appears on every single. Show as like but what we're talking about is his instagram. He's been doing instagram stories. And they're very funny and cute and I'm glad he's like getting attention from people who don't who he is. I guess I don't know I mean there's really nothing to say. Enron basically just a delightful character actor who? I guess if you follow him. You've known he does this kind of front facing video diary content for a long time but now he's had a spike in them. Because it's gotten truly deranged because he stuck at home with his mother. I believe in Tennessee. Yes Meighan and so I think he went to go be with her so that she would be alone. That's sort of how it seems so. I made a super of all the videos. He's made since going down to be home with his mom. Of course he's his hundreds of videos but I only did the ones in the past like three weeks since he's been under quarantine and here's the fun Super Cut. I'll play at here. How old is he if his mom is eighty four? How old is he? I guess before you sixty four. Yeah okay well she it choir. She live she it well. I'm here making enough chicken salad for an army of one. She had given me a tab. Ecstasy you snorted a gram and we got putting Jay and the other co star was Miss Betty White. It was George. Clooney that did it. Bryce Dallas Howard. She's very organized. I could save forgetting. Maybe Allison Johnny. Look at that episode. Buxton legal my mother hollered was asking me who can do. I'm talking to my friends. Mama quit bothering me okay. That's Jordan Lindsey Bobby. I just watched outbreak with Rene Russo. In wondering what's up with her where she been She seems to my mind almost like Laura Turn. But Lauren is like out here or in there But when you were so Thanks Chris Can I like address? The Laura dern comparison. I feel like the Laura dern. Comparison isn't quite right. Because Laura dern had he almost had a late career resurgence but didn't ever leave and Rene Russo had this thing where she like left and came and had had a resurgence and is a little bit older than Laura Dern Rene Russo came back and got the puck got parts that or Laura dern would be able to get parts that Rene Russo couldn't get when she came back she had to leg Take some parts that were that were for older women or whatever Is that makes sense makes sense. It's not quite the right comparison. Although I'm trying to think of what the right comparison would be rene. Russo is like definitely working. I just feel like maybe you don't come across her. She's not getting the roles that are like getting her the attention since maybe night crawler as maybe other actresses are alike. Older actresses are getting. Yeah she got a little bit of attention for Velvet. But that was just like some netflix movie. People like kind of ignored right now because it was the main thing is it was the same. She was like reconnecting with the director of night crawler and it was like cool like they're going to make another caller is her husband and her husband right and it's like that's the whole thing is like her husband makes good movies and she's in them So she kind of disappeared after like a very very active in cool nineties then she came back and she's in a lot of she's in things but just like not as many high profile things and she's also more of a supporting role in those things. Like it makes sense that you've stopped paying attention to her. You know. Actually who would compare her to his Andie macdowell. In a weird way like any McDowell was like a huge thing left came back has like sporadic roles in cool stuff where she's really good like Magic Mike to like she she when she does stuff. You're like wow but nothing that's like sort of like not quite an Oscar play but like she was a cool movie with that she was in with them. Doubts this love or the love. This is yeah and she was naked and and it was like. Wow she's like sixty something and make it like this is cool and she was very very good. Eat already was so good in the intern. Fucking annoying thing about the Internet is that she's she's the masseuse she's and then her character is just like her character. Just go away. I know she you know she introduced in. It's like Oh this rules and then she just goes away Gizmo Boehner and it's like Ooh it's good somehow like the for some reason they're able to get beyond that terrible gag and then she just disappears. Well does it at the turn. The turn is one of the rare movies that makes Boehner into like a very sweet moment. It's true it's like I don't know how she did but like in the Interna Boehner's likes Robert Deniro hustled. Nancy saw like super bad or something and was like Like a Boehner seems like a good thing. I should put in my movie as like comedy but then somehow made it her own in which is not very funny. It's it's Kinda sweet. Okay Rene Russo Things I didn't know about Rene Russo. That she's bipolar. And she revealed it on a taping of the Queen Latifah. Show or that talk. Show just a weird moment. This was when she was on with Jake Gyllenhaal when they were promoting night crawler which is an amazing movie They SA- Queen Latifah. Asked them to discuss something that they've had to push through to take their lives one step further and she just goes bipolar medication. Beverly was so she was. So that's a whole thing and then I guess she's trending now because like this. Caller said people are watching outbreak. A great movie which I actually have not watched recently. I'm a little bit terrifying to watch it to be honest. You can watch outbreak. You can't watch contagion contagious contagion. Twelve Times already contingents in my mind contagion this is to Real. Outbreak is ridiculous up. Rick is ridiculous. We actually watched fairly recently as well like when the last year. And it's like it's so silly also the opposite it's really cheesy. It's very dumb. It's really funny that it's like the two movies that people are like running to watch or whatever. Our outbreak in contagion. Those are the two we have. No that's it. We have no better so you know. It's just weird. The references the pop culture references to watch and watch safe again this week. Have you seen safe? The Julianne Moore Movie. It's great now. I have it on Blu Ray taught. It's it's Todd Haynes what's it about it's about Julianne Moore's like Orange County like having to do with this or why saying what you're GonNa Watch this weekend. Why are we bringing this up? That like it's about sickness. It's about this woman who is like I'm sick. I'm sick I'm sick. I'm getting so sick and everyone's like you're crazy. It's all in your head and it's like her trying to figure out why what's making her sick. Is the sickness real? Is it all in her head? And she's so rich and so it's like she's going to all these doctors and going to all these wellness retreats but it was made in like the the mid nineties. There's like a fibromyalgia angle to it or like more gallons angles. I don't believe that you're actually six. Like more about seems more about auto immune deficient or what is it disorders The other good thing the other thing I learned about Rene Rousso via like Rene. Rousso researching was buzzfeed. Wrote a pseudo profile of her Adam. Very wrote it when she was in night crawler and doing press for it and revealed that she owns cows so she sang there. You know he's asking what happened to you when you went away from Hollywood. What did you do and she said she said? I wanted to educate myself a bit. I Probably Watch two thousand documentaries on the history of various places it was so exciting okay so she educated herself and then she worked with the Department of Water and power because they were in the middle of a drought California so she worked with them and help them bla-bla-bla literally this she says Blah Blah. Then I started a business white powdery. I have forty cows. Upstate NEW YORK. I have the coolest farmer friend. He's great he used to be an advert. Okay so she's talking about how they make the Best Yogurt in America or something in America and I go to white cow dairy dot com still exists and yes. I have no evidence to believe. It doesn't but they only sell it at the little store that they have and I sense that it's like Rene gave some start up money to her friend who has cows you know. And like he has he details when the cows makes a little money off of. Yeah and I don't know if we're in a maybe reneged some free yogurt or something. She loves cows. Oh did you see this? You know where the where the cows live. Blue Hill Farm. Oh so it's a farm. Within a farm Ansi Blue Hill Blue Hills like one of the fanciest restaurants so the so the farm is the rest of the farm providers skill fiery. Yeah so I bet if like Blue Hill. Probably a lot of money for that yogurt and milk and on those dairy butter out of it. Which is why it's only sold in the cycle. Little store up there. Maybe get Rene Russo's dairy but today's not that day yeah interesting. Oh you know really quick thing though before we move on from Russo. We don't WanNA watch contagion documentaries like pandemic documentaries or pandemic fiction. But you do want to watch some Rene Russo. Turn on the Thomas Crown Affair. It's so good. I was just realizing like I need to Rewatch Thomas Christopher because it's amazing and she's incredible in this guy. No it's not. It's not underrated. Everyone loves Thomas Fair but like watch the Thomas Grand Affair fucking rules. Okay next call. I am begging you guys pool knees. Can you talk about the video that just came out of Shannon as an Connecticut walking extremely slowly so the Paparazzi get pictures of them in quarantine? It's just Jessica is amazing. Why were they? Somebody asked me why they were walking so slowly and my answer I gave was that I think back will they were like. They were walking slowly because they didn't want to. They were trying to keep their distance from the Paparazzi right. I mean it's either. They were walking solely because they were trying to keep their distance from the Paparazzi or they wanted to make sure the Paparazzi. He's got good shots callers. I think I agree with that. Because of Corona virus they were like trying to like keep safe distance from no no. I don't think so. I think they were trying to make sure the Paparazzi you know got you know. Get a blurry image. Yeah we'll go really slow over here you'll get a pick. The picks of them have been Camila. Cabello have never been more relatable on their painfully slow stroll relatable because they look like shit. It's also you're right. How has it relatable that? They're walking slow like there's nothing relatable about a celebrity couple. That's you will not convince me that they're actually in love. Maybe they're like buddies now because this but they're extremely close but it's like nothing about this extremely allegedly manufacturer relationship walking slowly outside of their mansion while being photographed by the Paparazzi is relatable. Well one of that is speaking of walking outside and being popped by the Paparazzi every single day. We're getting new banana photos. There was a little bit of a viral moment where somebody got them on talk and then wrote in the comments. I mean you take this with a grain of salt offices not true. Whatever data confirmed he saw them? He saw her pull out a phone and call the Paparazzi. And say okay. We're ready and then seven. Paparazzi jumped out a van and took photos of them and then went away. We'll did you see this headline from two hours ago. I'm texting to you two hours ago. I'd like you to read it then. I'm ready Ben. Affleck quote would love to have a baby with his girlfriend on to Armas. What they are being is forward. Low a digital source on BEN LOVES CHILDREN AND LOVES BEING A DAD A source exclusively reveals in the new issue of US Weekly. He would love to have kids with her one day. I'm telling you I think that he's very into it. And she is calling the Paparazzi. Me Like we're ready. I still think like this is not seen the movie. We don't know about the chemistry. They need well okay so they need to do this for the movie. When the movie comes out they will be at the premier's together Blah Blah Blah. But I still think I'm crazy because I've celebrity. Culture and celebrity news has rotted my brain. Uh-huh I still think this is him trying to get Jennifer Garner back that this is all going with them being breaking up and her being like you know. I love my time with him. He's such a sweet man but like we moved. We moved Like I was I was growing older and like we grew our true and then he is going to fall back in love with genital. He'd never fell out of love with Jennifer Garner. And my ask. Okay okay all. Da here's my question. Do you think his this to debate her. Listen Do you think him saying like he loves kids? He loves his kids. It's more just like a message to Jennifer Garner. It's like he doesn't WanNa have kids are messy. Wants his kids back to what I am saying. That is exactly what I am saying. So this article is actually just like manipulation to be like Jenn like are you jealous but also I love my kids. 'cause she's GonNa go on like he does love. His Catholic shook US shook us was like a true rebound. He was like depress Blah Blah Blah onto army has like pointed on an armistice like. I Want Jen's attention. I saw some article that's like Jenn Garner says that like on a two armed isn't ready to like meet the kids and it's like no one can meet anyone like you can't meet the meaning anyone right now. There's no meeting no stop meeting enough with the meaning. Okay can we. We just want them to get back together really. I don't give a shit about somebody's liberty couples but for some reason Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner. It's like I need them to combine your. I know you're like it's very weird. Honestly I I like. I want them to get back together. I mean I like athlete but I think this is a relationship in which he's more engaged than his partner banana okay. 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I know she's someone who will be at the official superstar. Do know why. What is that meeting is it is? She's some she's someone I o now that we've heard from an eighteen year old. Let's get a call from a thirty five year old. Who weekly longtime longtime. Who Is Charlie? Demilio thanks bye. When's very rightfully called these? Our audience in two examples. People who don't know who Molly Shannon is like young people and people who don't who Charley Demilio is. You know who if you know who both of them are your us and no one else like. If you know who both these people are you have a problem. A HUGE PROBLEM. Right or yeah. You're on the Internet too much. It's in some way your job to know about these sorts of things. Yes you're like a pop culture reporter for US scanning for just for anyone Molly Shannon icon ick ninety s Saturday live star. The reason this the reasons he a superstar in her bio was because she One of her most famous Saturday night live characters is Mary Katherine Gallagher. Star of the movie superstar. Because that's what that was her catchphrase one of her catchphrases a TV movie obsessed teen. Who got if the original superstar? You'd be like why do you like what Charlie Demilio is? The most followed person on Tuesday duck star. She's the most followed person on talk. That's IT YEAH. She's she's kind of the she's kind of the emblematic. Tick Tock Dancer. I would say because took has many different forms. Many people do many different types of things that are popular. But the most popular thing on tick tock are dances. That spread and Charlie is like the most popular dancer right. She answers on tech talk and now she's become bigger than that because of course if you become famous on a platform that old people don't understand you end up getting even more popular. Because they're like the whole thing is they want to figure it out and have you on the tonight show and did a debt so she was on Jimmy Fallon and I think stuff like that so she's already kind of broken out a little bit of the thing. I would argue. No one no. She's not not really broken out. Past like tick tock too. She's from Connecticut and her. Dad is a Politician in Connecticut. A huge so he also has a huge social media following and like dines out on the fact that his daughter is also famous. We what poets is. What's his politician? Republican well no he's never been elected but he's like run for office like stay off. He was defeated in two thousand eighteen. He was defeated and two thousand seventeen. She's fifteen years old F. I just WanNa just WanNa let you guys here wondering Geez fifteen years old. She's fifteen years old. Got Forty three million followers Tick Tock. That is unbelievable. Yeah of course. Yeah it's like that's you know when you join the platform it's like the most popular personal platform. A lot of people are gonNA follow right. Because that's it's like it's like who to follow. Here's someone you could follow right rate in a way next. We're GONNA play a quick game of who them are really. Focus Se. Dan Kruger. Who were them? Thanks Diane Kruger One. Two Three by by like. Oh okay know what body one. Time longtime Calling with a question about the stems universe. What are the WHO's and them of the Sims universe like the grim reaper? Or so like we're neighbors or like any similar words I am also the woman in the window with quarantine if you can't tell crunch crunch from the original Sims. Tell me who were them okay. The pleasant the pleasant family. One two three who who? Yeah the roomies family. Who is that one two three Chris and Melissa Rumi the Bachelor family he was he lived alone as Michael Bachelor. I don't know him one. Two three who okay the Newbie family. Who are they bette? And Bob Newby now I. They were the tutorial neighborhood family. Don't care one. Two three who mortimer Goth? Bella got Sandra one two three them. Those are them. Them's were were the me. The Gospel the only then Ambala because they come over to introduce themselves immediately and Bellas always like to sexy. And you're like your second game. What opens up like? Should you flirt with either of them? That's the game the game is like Oh you're going to be thirty with these people who are in a relationship but it might be open. Ooh Bella and mortimer like sexy and they're like yeah my daughter's at home like what's up over here and you're like you say that instead of these gods it's really silly to me that in the same way clue as good. There's a way to make the Sims a really good movie and it's weird that they never did it. It's crazy that no one has tried first of all. We're like maybe getting a Barbie movie. After so many years we never will. We've had Barbie movies are made by Barbie or Barbie for for children. But we've never had an adult Barbie movie but I think the popularity of the lego movies has started this rush to the top of leg. How do we make other movies like that because that was such an but the latest flop? It wasn't a flop but it was disappointing and I. Maybe people aren't that into these because then that didn't that because of the performance deliver movie. I thought that that's one of the main reasons. They started pushing back the Barbie movie and stuff because they were also the iconic. Epic Flop of the playmobil movie or whatever member that that was begging trainers movie the biggest flop of the year. Whatever one of them. I mean but look at trolls. Trolls is hugely popular. That's a movie that but that is for also for children. That's not an for adults. Lego movie was kind of for adults. Can you name the song? Meghan trainor over the playmobil movie. Easily come up get come on get up. Let's play or something. What is it no? It's called run like the river. Why let the river run? Run like the river okay. Okay next call. High are the indigo girls who is high a. Komo like shortest okay. This little call Chris. Yeah okay thank the indigo girls. Who were them one two three then as INDIGO GIRLS? Who has named separately? Because I could not name them for you I was GonNa ask you could you name is named? Amy and one is named like barb or something and they're definitely imile okay and then the line and they're in love we don't know. I mean they're probably in love as friends so I don't know that we're certainly they? They love each other. I think there because Emily is married to someone. Maybe they are in love. Not Saying it couldn't be in love with each other but emily is married to the former integral store manager. Tristan Chipman. Oh I thought that they literally were in a relationship with each other okay. Fine Okay Mine. I know that it says reading. I'm reading the By the way I offers the indigo girls. I just don't okay thank you. I actually do every time I listened to the girls. I'm like I should get into them. You lease a perfect song. That was like a Karaoke Song of yours. Big and I when I listened to the indigo girls. I'm like this rules but I've never really taken the time to embrace their discography and I feel like maybe that's a quarantine activity. Just get really fucking like we and I looked to INDIGO GIRLS. Fandom when this is all over it's like so what did we get done okay? So like whatever. Whatever bobby got really into the indigo girls during the two thousand twenty? Four saw of listening to there. Please call in at sixty nine. Who HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? Comments Concerns? Hope you're enjoying your quarantine. We're happy to be there with you while you're quarantining False instagram twitter and facebook. Spur Patreon.com Sasha. 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EP 40 - PSYCHEDELICS: FROM SHROOMS TO DMT with Jay Hunter

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EP 40 - PSYCHEDELICS: FROM SHROOMS TO DMT with Jay Hunter

"Hey what's up. Everybody I'm Sasha joker bail and this is shut up. I love it where we invite special guests to talk about. Something that's underrated in the world. Bud The guest is our expert so he is going to tell us why it should be loved. Doesn't make any sense. That sounded like a Halloween version of intro. Going to find out why you should love it then Chateau. It is a pretty scary topic. We got here today and We got an expert a Whiz. Can I say that? He's a Whiz in the topic or would say because he sent me a pdf on the topic before pd must be an expert but He's a returning guest and he has his own. Podcast called pod weaned Satan. That's about this amazing band called Wean. Well I think pretty amazing. He thinks it's very amazing and his name is Jay Hunter. Hello Welcome Anji Hunter and we should also mention the what the topic is at hand. Which is the topic is psychedelics which I am as you mentioned earlier. I'm an expert at an expert in the fields and I like to counsel people in the topic and in the process of taking psychedelics. That's right well here's the thing psychedelics. It's a very wise this topic. What is a fit? The podcast psychedelics are very popular. Type DRUGS AREN'T THEY J. I would say so I. I think I think this subject fits your podcast because you typically your topics your shows are about maligned. Things that people really enjoy or misunderstood things that people enjoy and I think that psychedelic drugs are heavily misunderstood even by people who are proponents of taking them. It's an often misunderstood and misrepresented topic and so I'm here to cut through the nonsense and show you what the real deal is now. Let's go around the room so to say in our virtual room and here a little bit about each of ours experience with psychedelics. Joe How about we start with you. What's your experience with the drugs? I've only really messed with mushrooms as far as Salvia mushrooms and I believe that it's Yeah I think that's about it. But I'm a big proponent of them I've used them as party drugs But also have no ecstasy for you. Oh Ecstasy Ecstasy. I kind of don't as much like it doesn't seem as as much it's technically. It's technically psychedelic. It's a unique one. Those are also you said Salvia. David Norm one mushrooms which are trip to means Silla Sivan trip to mean a drug ecstasy or there's various I don't know what kind of ecstasy you actually took their neither do i. Yeah exactly. Nah neither do most people who take them so often on raw search dot com or whatever being like this one has read flex and is green and has a Polka ball on. It is safe now. That's mostly speed and we take A. I'm not an expert in ecstasy by any means in particular but I'm I'm more heavily focused on other psychedelics. But but but what you took was. Yeah it if it's oppressed pill with little spots on it it's typically several different substances smashed into one and there's MDA in it like if you've ever heard anyone say the word Molly Molly is a form of MD amounts of Shannon Molly Shannon. I love it I love it. I love every one of characters a Somali. If you've heard that term bandied about that's basically just a pure form of DNA was usually comes in powder form. I'm guessing possible or impossible. No no it's it's kind of or you would like most of the time you could get ecstasy and the guy would tell us it's bad and he'd give us a big old bag because he'd be like dude. I don't know where this came from a lot of it's different but then when we got molly we had to pay a lot more and it was usually just in like a capsule or a powder. Yeah it's yeah it's a powder form it's usually. I put the Gel cap of some sort and the whole idea. Is that like what you took in the pill form probably had molly in it had the the molecule with molly stands for is like the pure molecule them and now he's Molly Shannon is her name short for Molecule Shannon. Is that what you're saying? That's why I lost with her. At least twice and she she said Oh. You don't need to call me molecule. That was the first thing that she said she's like she's like. Hey Jay so glad to be working with you. Don't call molecule. We can just call each other by our short. You know what I also met her briefly and she was tripping balls off nationalism. Funny trippy story Molly Shannon because you've heard of Asmar yeah talks about as Marceau. On one of the first times. I ever heard what I ever heard the term. Asmar was. I was working with Molly Shannon on this movie and she was. We're shooting a scene. Where like she was supposed to be going through like dead daughter's like a box of her dead daughter's like like old things and she picked up his box of pencils colored pencils and in the scene. She started I think we were rehearsing the scene. She picks up the box of pencils and starts fumbling through the pencils and she kind of went into trance. And we were like molly a UK. What's going on? And she kind of like shook out of it and she goes Oh. I'm so sorry I have asked him are and so just the the clinking of the pencils like she has. She has a heavy former because a lot of people just like to watch it and get off on the sounds but but but she has a talk. I think so. Yeah I mean I mean she just like her like moving the pencils run and the sound from it. Put her in a trance state and she was like. Oh Yeah it happens to me all the time with stuff like this and I'm so sorry. She was embarrassed about it. I never get a answered. The little clinking of the of the pencils pleasing but I don't know about a trance. I only watch videos from really hot women who do it so I don't think I think I'm in hot women boobs. That's a yeah I think the term. Ocd like a lot of people are like totally OCD. And it's like you're just the person whose intense or whatever about some subject and then there's people will actually have. Ocd clinical mental condition and clinical impairment. So I think if you truly have. Sm Are you might have a form that Molly Shannon has which is like. We'll send you in the days. Almost like trippy type of it. Felt like she was tripping all of a sudden and she had no idea but apparently a called it when I said that when I met her she was probably tripping to you. We'll touching my hair like in a weird way though because your hair was so dry you gotta conditioning reckless sound of it. I have the worst hair. That's why I do rate. Let's just to close out the molecule things so so basically like when ecstasy I came came about people would take the MDA And and the pure molecule and then they would mix it with speed or other kind of drugs and precedent of those tablets and like the p the people would mix it with like with like. Opiates like heroin. And things like that so when you were at like a rave in the eighties and you took ecstasy. You like a kind of a surprise. Whatever was in it was in it and people would take it and they'd be like up all night but the differences like if you take molly the actual molecule it's like you don't have that like crazy speed element where where it keeps you awake. It's more of like a like a narcotic type of effects. You get those ecstasy feelings from it but you might feel like like like you WanNa lay down more so than like run around and go crazy all night. Yeah that's definitely been my experience. I remember a few times Taking a random pill with my buddy and then about forty minutes in our teeth would be chattering and we'd be like this one was very speedy was net. Yea exactly exactly so and then there's also other kinds of Mali which we called like moon rocks is one of the street terms story about moon rocks Jay Hunter. I think that's a smooth transition. It's what I know about psychedelics. So let's start with moon rocks so when I take in moon rocks before with Jay It was probably my first experience of like being one with the world and enjoying you know like we're all one and stuff like that and that was my first time and it was like wow I I think I love drugs because I was brought up with the sense that all drugs are bad and alcohol nicotine which are of course the worst drugs. They are good for you like in Russian Siberia delake alcohol. Sure like start drinking at twelve. My Mom poured me shadow vodka. And Said you have to start somehow and you know cigarettes were also around the same time and then but like drugs were considered to be like. Oh no drugs still scare like you could die from people catch you. I remember the story was being told to me. Like people will catch you and give you heroin just to like get you a dictator and so I was always afraid like looking over my shoulder and Siberia like people are GonNa catch me and like shoot hair and into my give you free drugs. There's worse things so I like the first time I had really good experience with a non alcohol or nicotine would with Jay Hunter when moon rocks and then later in concert by the way that was the first time. But those really want to get your podcast saying we can all things go back. There was a cluster of good trips on for me. I am not really trips. But like those grade euphoric experiences on moon rocks. And then I tried to take anti depressants mostly for my anxiety. So that was like lexa pro. An older stuffed accelerator borders inhibitor. Reuptake intimidate stinky. So much as our ice and so that actually makes you kind of immune to all of these mall anything related but definitely to molly and so one time Jane. I went to the hotel and we took a bunch of moon rocks and I was at the time on lex. Appro believe the? Sri and like hours later. I'm not feeling anything like anything and I have no idea what's going on with somebody and not having fun. Jays like feeling it and jake takes usually a lot more to start feeling anything than me. Like I'm a very lightweight. Person like ahead of pot and I'm dying and Jay is like I'm feeling but I guess we should take another chunk of it and so we did and so he started having like. I don't know like a breakdown. No I pretty much overdosed on molly. What happened? Here's what here's what. Actually here's it actually is a good way to start a lot of what we did. Was We started off taking a normal amount and then I started to feel it but like it. Usually like Sasha's saying takes me a little longer or takes more of the substance for me to feel it so I start feeling a little bit in. Sasha's like she said kind of lightweight and she's like I don't feel single thing like what's going on. Okay well let's take more so we'd take like a like an additional dose of it and then we may be taking the third additional dose of it and she's not feeling anything and I'm like I like like stuck to the ceiling like trying to like he's started you myself off the Am Yoga. I've never seen one J just like impromptu spontaneous yoga I could see myself break into it just for fun but he is not like a huge yoga guy. He started doing this crazy thing in the middle of hotel room for like an hour. I know just laying there watching him. Be like wow. He's like. What was your rather uncomfortable while you're watching this. Where you at sausage on the bed like having tea and being bored by so you'RE STILL. I'm not tripping at all like nothing tingle in my like Pinky you know what I mean like nothing like I felt nothing and so then I might have even tried mushrooms again on while still Alexa pro and it was like barely anything but when I went off depressants because I figured that the side effects they were giving me was outweighing the positives they were giving me and yeah and I kind of just double dominant yoga meditation and all the good stuff and I like now like if I to take anything literally like I get very high very fast very lightweight but I had like I said I was brought up with Sort of suspicion and that like drugs are like the worst thing in the world and then how would I ever date a drug addict? But then I started dating J. I quickly found out but like he does a lot of drugs. I'm not a drug addict. Let's stop or anything I'd said that was because she she she poisoned me with way. Too much wonders eight. What I'm seeing is a drug addict is the thing that I think. A lot of people think of people who use drugs right away like even includes psychedelics. Like I think I'm using the term to highlight how people were on educated about how valuable psychedelic drugs or marijuana which I don't like but I know for a lot of people. It's very good like on educated about that. And so the immediately think of anybody recreationally for self realization purposes using psychedelics. Immediately think that this person is a drug addict is does from saying like it was like in my DNA to like be on constant alert of. What are these people? Do not drinking instead smoking pot or the like taking mushrooms at that's the worst thing possible and but like slowly but surely J. brainwashed me into trying mushrooms enlightened you flashing light me and those were like the most one one man's brain washes enlightenment's yes. I like I mean it was definitely like big step towards my improvement of mental health. In general like anybody needs improvement of mental health. And it Kinda came later like my like I guess. Early Thirties is when I like discovered a lot of appreciation and gratitude to mushrooms for what has done for me so I also dumped the tea with Jay which. I'm sure he'll talk about which is a thing that you smoke so I ask is when you drink it but there's a way to smoke it and that's like the trickiest shit ever so that's my expertise on the subject jeep very very similar to Joe. So Joe Joe's done. Md Ecstasy Mushrooms. And what was the other rare also starting around like Beijing? Nineteen I want to say but no LSD or at Isa Masculine now like with LSD. I've avoided looking for it and then also never came to my doorstep. I never had a friend who was like I have some. I think I might have done it but I've always been a little hesitant. Avella. St Seems more intense. And then any like peyote Iowa Oscar de Mt. I've just been like I'm like I'm I haven't had the situation to take that seriously and do it right way. They're rare substances the harder to obtain. And the you know. The knowledge about them is that they're much more powerful. Obviously than like your your average mushroom would be now now. Sasha's Sasha's experience has been ecstasy has been molly or whatever and mushrooms right like nothing. Emt Dot right right right so you both have a pretty good background. A first person experiences with with substances. Because I I would say between the two of you. You both have have seen different elements of the PSYCHEDELIC spectrum. Which is good which is not not. Everyone can say that. In fact I'm going to just throw this thing out here Because I I find that pot can be very psychedelic experience for me and I know. It's not tripped him in or in both of you probably just smoke it for breakfast. I assume like for me. It's like shit is the worst. J. F. C. Me High Pot and it's much more like just debilitating to me then then Mushrooms even yes. Sasha's body chemistry or brain. Chemistry Siberians does not Except marijuana or cannabis as well as other people will like I she definitely has a like a hundredfold type of reaction to where like you know like like like myself or maybe Joe might be able to take a couple hits of pot and just walk around and be totally normal and no one loving the difference like Sasha when she when she eats pot or smokes. It smokes a very small very small amount. It has a very very intense effect on her like very very psychedelic very other worldly and usually doesn't doesn't enjoy which is which is totally fine. Everyone has a different reaction. Because I'm kind of allergy. You know what I mean like. Who knows chemistry thing I I would? I would lean toward the allergic elements because because it's very unique your reactions. Such a sense of dissociation like I immediately like like lose the sense of self and like I the the sense of unreality overcomes like over me and I just can't snap into my own body like I just keep seeing everything like a postcard around me and it's it's like there's no sense of self growth like mushrooms would do like if you go through that with mushrooms than you kind of. Come out on the other side this is just like one plateau of like not just as offense. I mean Sasha for the audience maybe like if anyone audiences seen someone on a bad trip or like seen so when that's taken like ten hits of acid in his flipping out and just kind of completely out their minds. That's kind of like how? Sasha is when she ingests cannabis kind of from the outside at least from the observer perspective. It's it's very. It's very intense and scary. And she doesn't smoke pot. I don't smoke pot and if you're out there and you just asking yourself like why is pot not agreeing with me? Just be like you know. Maybe it's not agreeing with you just like you don't have to keep trying. I feel like I've tried a couple times. A tried to many times enough that I'm like stop trying. This is not going to work for me. Find something else. So there's other stuff that who dude. I don't WANNA SMOKE WITH YOU. Because it doesn't work and it's been that way for decades. Yeah it's gotTa be you know. Siberian things Iberian jeans now g hunter Jay Hill Jurors. Hunter Squire as I am a lawyer. What is your what is your expertise. Why are you the best person to invite today on shut up and talk about psychedelics? What is your experience? When did you start dipping your toes into the pool of universal knowledge? Well that would be the first time I ever took any kind of psychedelic substance other than cannabis. I mean if you consider cannabis is a psychedelic. It's more of a psychoactive drug. I would I would say but started smoking pot at a rather young age. Thirteen twelve thirteen years old. I would not recommend. That's anybody with that. I think I probably smoked pot before God that was the first thing I got into and I took I can't say the bad dates a famously but I know. I took mushrooms for the first time I remember the experience. I know that it was before I was sixteen. It was either when I was fourteen or fifteen. Probably more like fifteen. I know that because I didn't drive at the time. And so you want it to urge to drive yes. I I wanted a license to drive just like the famous movie and Corey Feldman Corey Hayme tour to force us to drive but so a never seen it. Wou- Joe you're Mitsubishi. Let's let's put the brakes on this podcast and this is starting watch license to drive. We're back and we're back so so yeah. I took mushrooms for the first time in fourteen. Fifteen years old friends of mine had already had a handful of experiences with LSD and mushrooms. And so I was even though I was still young looking back on it. I was lied to the game as far as my peer group was concerned like everybody. All my friends had already you know had like ten trips by then. Pasi real quick. Did your parents bring you up with any sense of be careful of drugs or drugs are okay like what was the general vibe with my parents. They weren't like proponent. My parents definitely have taken lots of psychedelics and smoke pot and I grew up kind of like they used to work for the grateful dead. And we're kind of part of that rock and roll scene so I definitely at an early age have been exposed to the family parties when family friends or smoking pot and I just I just. It was always around me. They they didn't they weren't proponents of me doing it necessarily but I definitely was exposed to. They tried to hide it. But I I knew I could figure it was going on. They actually had A. I found this out when I was in college. Actually that my parents and my uncles and all their friends they had a code word for LSD and it was the ferret. So and I have all these memories these memories from when I was like a like a little kid when I was six years old they would like I would hear the like. Oh Hey do you like who has the Ferret or whatever and I was like what the Ferret and so so. I have these memories of like always talking about ferrets and like Emmy always wanted to be like. We're the ferrets like I love. I wanted to see this. Little Squirrel animal kept on hearing about and then FLASH FORWARD INTO UTAH. Twenty twenty years old or so. I think one of my uncles like he like let it out of the Bay said the word fair it. I'm like what do you mean fair it? And then he just all clicked with memory. Uncle Marker rankles Zach was like Oh yeah our nickname they're like that was the nickname for LSD. Wh- back in the day so anyway so I was around it but I wasn't exposed to it by my parents. Their friends I just. I just kind of observed it but you know I kinda hung out with like a hippy crowd when I was when I was in high school and definitely into into experimenting with substances and Smoking Pot and was it like the first time fourteen. Fifteen first time we took we also. My friends had access. We were kind of the. We're the super cool kids. We had access to all we had access to all the good stuff so we we had. We had the best pot and the best access to all kinds of illicit substances so the first time I took mushrooms. It was rather good high-quality mushrooms and this is in the suburbs of Chicago. Where it's it's hard to find those kind of things these days. It's probably a lot easier. Obviously but So I would yes so. I took mushrooms that my friend. Eric's house with my other friend. Rachel and I remember it as being just real pleasant. We just tripped and hung out. Eric's bedroom and and it was my first introduction to that whole psychedelic world. It wasn't a particularly powerful trip. How might how much do you think you took? I probably took like a grand Graham like like Yelich one mushroom or something and but you know like I immediately felt familiar to me the experience it felt like okay. I somehow whether it was through dreams or through some kind of like I dunno weird like ancient knowledge in my DNA like it just felt like a familiar experience. It didn't feel like an alien experience. Something that'd be afraid of but but but like. I said it wasn't a particularly heavy trip. It was just kind of I. Would I would say late two medium trip even though it was dipping the toe it. I mean it certainly. The time felt pretty amazing and pretty intense. But in retrospect he was pretty light and then after that it was it was like okay. Let's escalate let's let's go deeper and deeper and and you know all throughout my high school days. I again access. We would get mushroom sense in from Oregon that were like really really powerful mushrooms Fedex. Yeah through through the mail through various the Hippie Amazon syndicated. Yeah exactly The Ravens were pigeons. Yeah exactly it was carrier pigeon brought over like But it was mostly mostly through the the biggest drug dealer in the world which is ups and Fedex distribute more drugs than any body. They don't know about it but they do it. In fact people people worker P P people would send it just a little little inside knowledge back then they would take these big plastic thirties. Right Nineteen thirties now. This is probably like early nineties mid nineties but so that people would take it. They take my bags of mushrooms and vacuum seal them and then they would take these big plastic tubs and line them with peanut butter and then put the put the bags of mushrooms in these tubs. Line with peanut butter poor like melted peanut butter and they're so basically be encased in peanut butter than they would ship the tubs out. That was that people would smuggle incendiary bombs and more powerful smell to- dog than drugs. Yeah I think I think I think like if it was melted on it solidifies like it traps any kind of sentence because people would send pot that way to through the peanut butter methods so they should oldest service. All those working dogs were just freaking out about the actual peanut butter now or they just know like oh peanut. Butter is like a treat smell so they don't alert for that. They alert for the drugs. So there's a lot of dog knowledge. Wasn't I remember? It wasn't a foolproof system. Because I I remember somebody a friend of a friend older brother of a friend I went to school with got you know like was regularly having mushroom ship to their house. One day they. They got a couple of packages in about an hour later. Their house was raided a they got. They got arrested for trafficking psychedelic mushrooms. Only no just just like the guy's older brother and still in high school or college. I don't know that's a good question. A lot of people. I know a lot of older brothers and a lot of people. I know that I went to high school with Were involved in the in the illicit substance trade and a lot of them you know thrown in jail. One guy got this girl. Jamie's older brother. Got a busted with two sheets of LSD which Cheetahs one hundred hits of LSD select. Two hundred villas got busted. It's all about where you got back then and today it's all about where you get caught with it. He got caught in Utah. Which is one of the worst places to get caught with anything and and he I remember. He was sentenced to jail for twenty years and this is when he was like eighteen or nineteen years old. You got the sense to twenty years in prison. I don't know if you've ever got out or whatever but yeah it was it was. It was no joke back that I mean this stuff this stuff with these substances which I consider I understand that their drugs but I refer to them more in my own mind medicine medicine drugs as well as a synonym but like drug has all that kind of negative connotation to it. It's just a real travesty. That that people who are who are kind of like Experimenting with with with what I consider medicine. We're getting thrown in jail for for you know insane amounts of time so before we get into the whole medicine. Discussion and why does drugs are not necessarily drugs but tools? Right to expand wants to ask tools expand once cautious than cautiousness. I would like to also hear what other drugs used could have you. Donald think he used Salvia. Have you know I have? I have okay Mescaline you have as I haven't I have nuts. I mean I'm sure there's something I haven't used before but like for a psychedelics goes like I I definitely I've used Salvia. Divvy norm always refer to full Latin? There are many gaps. It's also called divine sage Salvia. I've I've taken a few times. Not a big fan of it kind of but did you feel like you're stuck inside an object is. I refer to it as kind of like a dumb version of DNA stupid dumb. Dmz dumpty. But I've done Meskel in a couple of times which is like the active ingredient and Peyote but but again that was a synthetic mescaline. So I don't know what else was in it. Or what was it in the first place but distinctly different from other psychedelic? So I would say. I've done mushrooms many many many times without exaggeration which is your tendency. Hyperbole exaggeration are my specialties. Now I think you've I mean at least one hundred times probably more than your teens or twenties. You're saying I did the majority of my mushroom tripping when I was in high school and College I've those beautiful forming year. Walgreen was just forming. I was pumping it full of all this shit but I. I took so many mushrooms when I was when I was young like that that I kinda hit a brick wall and it just felt like like. I'VE NOT GAINING ANYTHING ANYMORE. From this is because unlike a lot of people don't believe in taking psychedelics recreationally as like a party drug. I think that that's actually a bad idea. It's probably ecstasy's all right. That ecstasy is a party drug. Yes yes but that's like tangential like fringe psychedelic Ecstasy is more of like a body drug than that a mind drug. Even that has a slight mind. Is One no drug in a sense? They feel profound love for humankind without going deeper. Yes describe it but but I took so many mushrooms as a young lad that I sort of say hit a brick wall and sort of like okay. I'm I getting anything new out of this. This is just too repetitive. But but I will say that you know. When I wasn't high school they mushrooms. Were were certainly I. Give them credit for like for solving a lot of my problems you know. Psychological issues are just confidence issues. I mean when I took mushrooms that first time I remember the first ten trips I ever had were characterized mostly by a deep like fear. Insecurity like fear that like like the people I was with. Were like making fun of me or deeply insecure as like most likely people go through life in general. Yeah Yeah I mean I was not like any other. I wasn't any different from any other adolescent anything but like I after taking so many trips and having a quote unquote a couple of bad trips. Which I which I'll go into later. I don't believe in bad trips. I just believe in difficult truths everybody heartache. there's there's easy trips in difficult trips but I had a few difficult ones but I always emerged feeling better and like it was almost like therapy like I felt cleansed and I felt enlightened. I felt like whatever unpleasant experience I had during the trip. I was able to work through it. And it made me stronger afterwards. And so would you say that's why you don't like slash believe into therapy heartache. No I at least for your self therapy is that you don't. You never would have therapy yourself. No okay here's this is going to sound arrogant which it is. It's like I don't I personally if I sit there and talk to a therapist. I haven't. I haven't had a therapist that I felt is my intellectual superior so so so if I if I talked to therapist and they're trying to break me down there trying to like get me. I'm like I'm like yeah sure I. I'm on their level enough to where like they're not bringing anything new to the table and is it because of psychedelics. I would say so for sure I. I like whatever issues. I had deep seated issues. They were Kinda cleansed and washed away through psychedelics. Which is like you know if you think of a six seven hour mushroom trip if you go really deep and this is another big belief that I have that you should take. Alexey should take them. As if. It's a religious or therapeutic experiencing. You should take a lot to go really deep otherwise it's not quite as effective but after having a lot of those deep deep trips like one of those trips maybe worth a year of therapy and so I just condensed spiritual quest slash therapy. What is therapy other than just learning how to acknowledge your own personal truth and that's exactly Psychedelics help you do. Yeah exactly and and and another big thing that I believe in with psychedelics is that is that the if you boil it down what psychedelics do is they. Don't permit you. They they stop you from lying to yourself and all the truth is this pushed down inside. Your brain bubbles up to the top and I think that's what therapy is trying to do. Is Trying to get you to unlock these deep seated issues that you've pushed down in your brain that you've tried to ignore you're trying to lie to yourself like that's not a problem. That's not a problem because you're trying to survive your your brains trying to to keep you alive and survive and so it pushes trauma and issues into your tissues. Yeah into the tissues and then as soon as you take psychedelics. All that shit bubbles to the top you're forced to confronts your own fears and your own insecurities and so having those experiences when I was young in having the insecurity I was forced to confront it and work through it and you know I kind of solve those issues. If I hadn't done that I would say for sure I would be probably bad old man. Yeah settle or or I would be. I'd be in a place if I was a therapist office every week but There's there's not to say that I don't I wouldn't benefit from any therapy but but you know I just like whenever I've gone to it. I I've always thought like okay. I already know like they're not uncovering anything. Because I'm not hiding anything about lying to myself anymore now now. I also think that if you don't take psychedelics for an extended period of time you know like like let's say a year or two. You will inevitably take trauma or issues start. Insert suppressing them. And so. That's why I think it's important. That cleaning of the third eye to Bill Hicks. It's every couple of years or so you got to cleanse that third. I because you're going to start dumping shit in your attic and locking it up and not confronting it but like it's truth serum it just it. You're not allowed to lie to yourself anymore. You're coping with life. Suddenly that coping mechanism is gone. And you're forced to confronted. So did you mentioned that are also done some. Emt Right yes. I've also I've also done. Lsd A couple times. I'm not really that big. Lsd My to go back to my parents. My parents never like applauded taking drugs or anything in fact they. I remember one thing my dad said to me. I think when I was younger was like don't you know maybe it was my mom but like don't take anything that doesn't come out of the earth right so don't take any synthetic stuff and they're referring to like cocaine and heroin. How hard drugs and stuff like that. But the but it was also LSD. Yeah I think it was it was also LSD which has to be created in a lab. Basically the idea being like like pot grows off of plants like. She's not going to like encourage me to do it. But if I'm going to do something that's okay. Mushrooms grow out of earth. Like one size fits all because to me. Even though marijuana grows in the dirt it's still bad for him. Yeah no no absolutely but I think she was more referring to like. Hey listen I know you're I know you're a teenager? I know you're gonNA experimented and things. Here's my advice having gone through that already. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY. Don't do anything because you're just going to do whatever you want. So so the advice and was more. Stay away from anything. That's made in a in a chemistry lab. And if you're going to experiment with things stick with the stuff that just grows naturally so he did and so he doubled down. And I'm glad I did it. But that's why I never really got into LSD because to me. It always had that stigma of just being coming out of a of a chemistry lab and I also know of all the bad experiences or like sort of people who who like damaged their brain permanently. It was always from LSD. I've known true stories that you can damage your brain permanently after the use of psychedelics. Is that true or not will. Not the statement is is is wrong which is like psychedelics are are a group of substances. I think that you can absolutely damage yourself. You're not going to necessarily damaged yourself permanently with LSD. But I know it's definitely happened and too many people and whether that's something whether they had a pre existing psychological condition whether they took too much or whether when they took it there was other stuff in it or whether when they took it. They're in a bad situation where some sort of trauma happens and it like it caused the brain to snap and some way every situation is different but I just never heard of. I've never I don't have any firsthand. Experience happening ever with mushrooms but I know a lot of people who have fucked their selves up with LSD permanently. Tell many stories. And they're all kind of a bummer. But but you know I've always stayed away from LSD. I've I'm a mushroom guy cannabis quite a bit and but is is the real key to the game. Tj because not a lot of people had experienced with it. D is an often misunderstood substance. All right so it stands for Di Methyl trip demean psychedelics. Our in our in a couple different categories trip demeans as one of the main categories so the end of the t the trip to me like a mushroom mushroom suicide in his trip. To me molecule is people are afraid of it because rightly so it's been described as the most powerful psychedelic on earth. So right there if you've ever tripped before and then you know there's something out there that's a thousand times more powerful it's associated like there's associations with it coming from the earth coming from aliens like there's a lot of difference. Well I mean things that are yeah I mean. There's a lot of different stories. It's you know it's like it's like anything that's misunderstood or it's rare. There's a lot of. There's a lot of bullshit stories out there that there's a lot of you know like things that people. Y- make up about it because of their own experiences on the drug. I mean basically Di Methyl trip demean is in almost every plant and animal on the Earth in trace amounts right now all of the three of us and everybody listening. It's it's in trace amounts near spinal fluid see to me. That's terrifying. Yeah the well. We'll we'll we`ll. We don't know a lot about because psychedelic. Research was outlawed in the sixties. So we know little bits and pieces and right now slowly opening up the the the research and things but we just know a fragment of what is out there about the antique but we do know that it is in trace amounts in your spinal fluid and we know that your pioneer gland which produces serotonin and among other other Other substances and fight and flight right yet so the pineal gland is a gland that creates various chemicals. It's like a chemical factory rate and your gland is capable of producing. Emt based on the building blocks that's in it and scientists are pretty sure that it does create GMT whether it's regularly when you go into a dream state whether it's brought on by traumatic events like like a near death experience that your pioneer Glenn might might produce the pioneer glands located in this part in your brain your brain is like a fortress. Your brain doesn't let anything in or out of it without the prison. Guard opening up the gate so to speak as the analogy. But you're pioneer Glenn is located in this part of your brain where anything that the Pinedale Glenn produces. It gets immediately absorbed by the brain. There's no barrier going on so so basically the you know there's a lot of like nothing has been proven. What would they have proven in rats or lab mice or rats They have proven that the pinal gland produces GMT wall during the death experience. The the reason they can't prove that currently with humans is because in order to do that. You have to kill you. Have TO KILL TEST. Subject to have their brain opened up. You have to be active delegate needle in the pioneer gland. I mean. It's the kind of thing does Nazis. We'll probably they probably were. I mean I. It's going to be almost impossible to prove in humans. Because you'd have to kill the patient and perform this reversal telling me that I could have potentially hunt people and put them in a contraption where I slowly kill them and extracted the EMT and started emt bar where people can come and get high and people will call it the spinal tapper in theory. Is that what you're saying? I want what I'm saying is that is that anything is possible if you put your mind to it. But I was thinking if you're spines you I'd say that's a rather inefficient way to to harvest. Dnc what what you should do instead is what everyone else does. Which is there are several plants on the earth like I said every plant and animal has in it. It's it's part of the fabric of life. Basically but there are certain plants that have like memo. Hostilities and Syrian Rue. Pilot the most hostile trooper a stripper. Who WHO LOVES BRUNCH? So I'm sorry and exotic dancer so people will do they find these plants that have extremely high amounts of it for whatever reason The the the the ACACIA Bush is another one for instance. And they have the occasional. He's a sex worker. But but so so Extracted from these plants in higher amounts. And then you can ingest it that way. So like your yes. Though the pinal excuse me though the pineal gland seems to be capable of producing it and most likely does produce it in human beings probably be an inefficient way to harvest so sorry but your spinal. Tapper bar is No. We'll just bring it back to the drawing room. You know maybe you can augment it a little bit but but yeah so I mean I could just sit here and talk deemed night but I mean let's go back to the idea that psychedelics is not to be used recreationally heartache but to be used as medicine what exactly. We touched on it a little bit. But what would you say to a person who is curious because audible like psychedelic curious? People out there. I'd say but they would think that they want to use recreationally just to have an experience. What would be your peace of mind for them? Well I get the inclination to to have a party in trip and everything I mean I certainly did it when I was younger but The the one of the biggest things of psychedelics is. You've probably heard it said it set and setting right and this is this is misunderstood. It actually goes back to Gordon Watson Timothy Leary when they were professors at Harvard and and kind of pioneers and psychedelic research. Leary and Richard Alpert to Ramdas. Who BECAME RAMDAS? These guys are all Harvard professors in the Psychology Department and they started experimenting with psychedelics. And they figured out that that you've got you've got the substance right and then the the the human being just substance and you had this wild wild experience that emanates from it now. There are two things that that will that will illustrate that experience. One is the set which is short for mindset right. So the set is whatever's going on in your mind so you lost your job last week. Your your grandfather died or giant pandemic taking over the giant pandemic. Yeah exactly and they're all stuck in our house. Yeah exactly like anything that's going on inside your mind. Like like your memories from Childhood. Your your traumas. You're happy memories. Like like whatever's going on in your mind is the set which is called that and then the setting is everything that is external to yourself so immediate vicinity right. Yeah in the immediate vicinity but anything that's external so it could be the lighting in the room. It could be the color of the wall. It could be the person standing next to you what they're saying it could be. What's on television I? It's anything outside of yourself. And so what the to define the trip and the basically composed the trip are your mindset and the setting around you and so you know it doesn't mean that you're going to have an uncomfortable difficult trip because you go to a party or go to a concert and take a psychedelic. You might have a great time. But let's say you take a psychedelic and you go to a concert and you see someone fall off the balcony die. I mean that's going to now that's going to be the thing you're thinking about and it's going to define your trip. I might send you into into a horrible dark spiral. Let's see. I don't want to keep using violent instances but like let's say you see a mother yelling at her child or something and then that that that part of the setting you saw some other yelling at her child on the on the sidewalk that then triggers something some memory of years some trauma of yours the issues that you have with your mom and you start making connections and then like. I said a lot of times. These things can be therapeutic. But when you're out when you're out in the wild so to speak if you if you're in an uncontrolled setting then then there's there's phenomena and you know things that are going to affect you. The random and chaotic. And so if you can control the setting and then you can. You can do it in a very in a very comfortable safe space with people that you trust your going to limit the amount of stimuli that can send you into into a bad place because what you really want to do when you're on psychedelics. Is You want to explore the universe with your mind you but he wanted to explore the universe within and I cannot. Yeah if you're going to try and expand your consciousness. It's not going to help you. If some random bizarre events unfolds in front of your eyes. Because that's like everything is is Is amplified all. I would say that you'll brain seeks out positive things but just can't help in that state nod be affected by negative things like. It's highly unlikely that you're going to be online like searching for like horrible things that are happening in the news like because you brain which stay away from electronic devices like you would just be turned off no pun intended by them but if is just a minor things happens around you like like. Jay saying maybe a your neighbors across the street start fighting. Normally you would just be awful cares but your brain will take it as like a more meaningful event and everything would spin out of control or not necessarily spin out of control but but but it it defines what influences isn't for sure I it starts writing the next chapter in in your in your book. Which is your trip for the day. So so like if you want your book to be written by chaos and and just chance then yeah by all means go go out into the world and I mean I suppose if you once you become a very experienced tracker or not then you can you can certainly more safely do these things in like in dabble a little bit into the chaos of the world and see see what happens but I I would not I would not prescribe. That's anyone in the the the the concept of the Guide leary and Alpert and Watson all ascribe to which is that they would. They would a book called the psychedelic experience in the sixties. Which I highly recommend maybe another reason why I got into psychedelics. In the first place is my dad had a copy of it on his bookshelf. Signs retire at. Yeah I always stare at it and I crack it open every once in a while. It's it's kind of loosely. Based on the Tibetan book of the dead and it's a Tibetan book of the Dead Is Basically an ancient manuscript. That is a guide on how to die. So it's a religious manuscript and it kind of teaches you like. Here's here's how you die correctly. And so what they did. Was they half the book as the book of the dead and the other half is instruction instructional guide on how to trip and in that book. They recommend that you highly recommend that you always have a guide with you in your experience and a guy to someone who is a very well experienced goal to well formalise to be like somewhere and a Peruvian jungle where I don't know to find an actual Shammond knows a lot about tripping and leads me and a few other strangers in this experience or I think these days they just do them in Hollywood which is or you can go to our next geyser. It is is just a ten percent off your first. It'll be nice if we had a but Oh is it or is it just like a friend who feels pretty confident about psychedelic trips because Jay has been my guide on quite a few trips? Now I haven't been in an official guide because officially the way leary recommended doing it was a he. He said that your guide should be someone. Who's not on? The substance is not on acid or true. That's true that's true. But but in his mind with his with his system the guide is very well. Experienced psychedelics. Probably experience psychology as well like maybe even a therapist or doctor and also not on the substance. So that person knows if you start panicking or having some neurosis Seraing Zayed. That person knows how not to amplify that. How how not to make it worse how to bring you back into a good place and kind of you know the they literally are guiding the trip Now you know I've I've been quote unquote a guide many times when I haven't when I have been on psychedelics with friends just because I think I've got enough experience to where I I can beyond the substance and I can keep things under control enough to where if I if I need to help somebody who's going down like a rough path I can simultaneously. Help them But but but in I in an ideal world especially when you're first starting off it's really good idea to have someone that's the sober so to speak but also experienced now the other part of it the flip side of that is that sometimes from my perspective Having a guide their unless the person is very very good at what they do they can. They can have a negative reaction to the to the trippers because in general. You don't want anybody else around you. That's not tripping right. So that's that's the other part about about about. Taking psychedelics. In public is that Y- random space is that you're going to encounter tons of people who aren't tripping and they're not going to know what's going on in your head. It's hard to tell until you sit down with someone who wants you say. Hey I'm on drugs like people's reaction gets Oh. Yeah Ju Ju and it can be anything as small as just someone raising an eyebrow or like scrunching their famous do take on you and they certainly will grab you will be acting strange. Yeah Yeah exactly and like just that. Double Take or just J- just kind of scratching. The face of confusion can can send someone in the triggers mind that gets amplified and then he started thinking like. Oh my God. They know they know something's wrong. What's wrong with me? They're freaking out of these. People are concerned like I should be freaking out. You start spiraling out of control and so I just I just never think it's not recommended to be around people who aren't tripping and if you're going to be around one person that's not tripping have inexperienced guy. Yeah I had nobody else in. This is my experience From an early age even with drinking having. That's how all my friends did it. It'd be like all right. Well let's get the one person who's not gonNA be drunk drivers right of the driver of the bus driver so I've always been very into that with any time. Someone takes mushrooms or or anything like having a guide and it's so helpful but they do have to have the right energy and be. Kinda you don't you don't want a nurture someone that's sober. Don't WANNA sober guy. Hey man you freaking out like what's my arm look like dancing. You know. That's not that's just that's just making like A. That's like someone's if you've ever more people have been semi guides than they probably realized like being at a party with somebody who got too high and that person's like man and freaking out and you're just like did it's all good once you just sit over there for a minute and enjoy the music. It's all good like if you've done that you've basically been guide the worst thing you want to experience as a person who's having like a panic attack is the direction of your trip is when you ask somebody like. I I just. I'm not feeling well and they go. What's wrong with you? You like the dire is the worst thing you can hear because the insecurity because you and the most vulnerable state you like like a baby bird with like your open heart surgery. That's having an open heart surgery. That's how vulnerable you are and Basically asking like 'cause there's always this little part of you that knows you're not in the right state and thinks that you're pretty much simply going likes side of control you know you're just like this little part of you is always just like thinking like am. I always gonna be like this forever now. The that's a very common downward spiral thought which is that. I'm never going to be normal again. I'm always going to be like this this. We're also every that's what everybody has Salvia. You immediately get. This is how the world is. Oh it's horrible. I don't I would never do that. Like that. Sounds awful you. Don't you feel like you're part of like a table or very like like attached to become flats everybody awful? Everybody has their own unique experience. I think you're you're thinking that because of what I told you know because I actually also done research a little bit on online. Here's a funny. Okay I'll tell you myself my my Salvia story so the first time I did it and this is you know I've done. Millions of PSYCHEDELIC serve. Whatever would like yeah. This is the first time I've done Salvia and it's shocking. How powerful that stuff is. Is We all know but but I smoked and I was feeling not feeling anything and then all of a sudden I felt frozen and I felt like all the air had turned into like je a Jello mold like I've felt the entire world all the free particles like I was. I was like a mental low for something I was like suddenly like fruit stuck in Jello Mold. And you know like a specific thing but it's like such a cousin to the exact feelings. I've had on Salvia. Yeah and the reason I call it dumbed. Emt is because it. It transported you into a three dimensional space and it was. It was like extremely powerful but there is nothing going on in my mind. It was just a purely sensory experience. Where where I was just observing it like Holy Shit. I'm in Jealous Bowl. Talk this happening. It's just confusion and disorientation and then it's over and you're not pulling any sort of like you're not listening any sort of like enlightened like thought out of it you you basically just had this weird shit happens to you and your brain was kind of shut down and you just observed it was awful. I'm okay online I mean but a lot of people had other even more bizarre experiences on either. What about about the ells. Gmt NTL's well? I mean so those creatures the Terence McKenna originally coined the Terence McKenna is like Timothy leary volume two timothy leary. Was Pioneer of psychedelics. Popularized right and then this Guy Terence McKenna came along is brother Dennis McKenna. The two of them had done a lot of ethno botanical studies in South America and is focusing a lot on esoteric drugs found in the jungles so to speak so and they stumbled upon many different things mushrooms. And this and that. But also onto off in the seventy s or sixty on this in the seventies seventies and eighties and so he and his brother experimented with all this crazy shit they're fighting in the jungle Through native peoples and whatnot and they they did both these very powerful mushrooms cyanide icees mushrooms which is different than suicide and Mushrooms. But then also di methyl trip in the form. The early early injectable form of Iowa. Ska That's something you've done. I know I have not done Iowa but but Iowa is essentially. Emt takes hours. It's T- comes on slower. It lasts longer the big differences. That it's orally adjustable so like if you took dmt just put in your mouth and ate it. Nothing would happen. is is. They've extracted these these native peoples in Peru figured out how to extract. Dd from one plant and then take another plants which had what's called an Ma. Oh inhibitor which is mono amy and oxidized oxidation inhibitor. Never take them with Antidepressants worst next Mayo. Inhibitors in pharmaceuticals in the pharmaceutical world. A lot of times take those in conjunction with other drugs in order to have them be orally active. Right so your doctor might prescribe you drug an inhibitor. To take along with it so that it actually works so but but but what what Iowa. These native peoples synthesized extracted from plants and then extracted a naturally occurring inhibitor from another plant. Mix them together into into like a tea biscuit a drink and then you drink that and so what you do now since the hitters along with you can ingest it in your stomach. It'll work through through your body and be and be activated. The main difference being like from from what I gather. I can be a lot more intense than just smoking. Dmz But let's say if there's ten levels of of the WASCO experience like there's a spectrum of ten smoking will immediately get you to level seven. Let's say and then right back to zero in five minutes ingesting. Iowa's depending on how much you you might get all the way to level ten but it might last for eight or nine hours so so it's a long freaking hole for somebody to go on. I mean it's definitely interesting. Yeah but but like a and also on the time slows down exponentially so typical GMT trip. If you smoke it is only in the last five to ten minutes and you go from completely sober to jettison into a three dimensional world with the gets to the elves in a second and then you come back and then come back to zero and you're completely sober. You don't feel like anything like you could drive a car and operate machinery. He shouldn't but but you probably could because you go from zero to ten zero to seven or eight then back to zero within five minutes. I A- WASCO. I'm sorry when you're on when you've smoked it. I can tell you that time slows down. So the five or ten minutes might feel more like a half an hour forty minutes now if the same goes with Iowa that means you're eight or nine hour trip. God I mean fuck. It might feel like it's like many days around that time it could very well be mushroom chip. Can she like that? And I really know if I'm ready for like an Iowa Journal I think an Iowa thing. It's probably very important. It's a life experience. I want to have at one point but I do not want to do it with a shaman. I don't believe I don't need that or believe in that Hollywood douche bags. Hollywood douchebag Sean. I don't WanNa do it with ten other. People that are shitting in buckets and throwing up. I mean I want to get trip trip. Yeah so so. It's like I. I have issues with that system. It's fine for people. It's you know the the in a key. Does the native people improve the do the do I- AWASA? That's what they do. But I don't know I just feel like like the likelihood that you're going to be attached to like a real shaman and not just some like shyster some kind of like Charlotte's in is very very low and so I I would like to do it but I'd like to do it again in my confined space with a couple of people that I trust and and not share should bucket with them. Yeah and not with strangers. This whole is this concept that you're doing with strangers strangers strangers and you don't know what you're getting yourself into like a it starts freaking out you know your friend and you. Can you know it might not affect you as much personally? Because you're like okay. I know my buddy Dave. Here's is I know him and I love him. And he's like he's like crying on the ground riding around right now but it's okay 'cause. I'm help them real life exactly. That'd be totally normal. But but if I see some strange doing that I don't know they might flip me out or that. Stranger might start screaming at everybody. I mean I don't WanNa have especially when such a. It's such a fragile. Stephen with friends trip can go wrong. I I don't know if you guys saw girls trip with Tiffany Haddish. But a lot of jinx gone and their friends on a trip. That's a good. That's a good point. Joe Yeah Yeah thank you for. That is the scene with unlike the on the ZIP line or whatever right. Yeah yeah something. That could even happen amongst friends when they trip. Let's all Pasta Secca back and we're back great movie gray movie. Do I have no? I want you to death a lot of me rambling and talking. But like there's a lot ambling getting yourself into this quarantine of going on for weeks. There's been a lot of just. You're trying to eat some egg because he's gone so the thing but you don't understand Jerry import so mt machines so anyway so going back to Terence McKenna. He and his brother studied the shit and got way. Deep into it. Terence McKenna came up with this concept of when he would take DMZ. He would encounter what he called the self transforming machine elves and a lot of money and a lot of other people in fact most people who take this is what makes the special amongst other psychedelic other psychedelics. You might have kind of similar types of hallucinations but you actually researching that for a project. And I couldn't find like a unifying mushroom hallucination that like everybody keeps having but deemed t does offer that I mean the closest you can say is like people see trails or whatever kind of tracers when off of movement. That's that's something. People similar is what the the characters but with. Dot The most unique part of it is that you encounter. External intelligences is the best way to describe it but we start our like a track underneath our own. I might actually make some drone here so so you. What do you mean exterior intelligence? These from people. I've heard talk about these people who kind of fill a role they look can look different But they all have like they kind of like the readers the the emissaries what they are in a basic sense is when you're on Mt you encounter external intelligent beings. So I it's it's the most unique thing because because no matter how hard you're tripping on acid or mushrooms you might encounter other Pe- things or people or you might hallucinate things but you're never actually communicating with another brain sort of telepathically. And that's the oddest sensation is that you encounter like minds that are separate from yours And a lot of people see like gnomes or els or kind of like alien type of what a lizards. What's the feeling of knowing? They are external minds? It's it's impossible to describe in words. I mean the only way I can describe. It is is that you know that it's you know that you're encountering something that is separate from yourself and you're communicating with it like telepathically and it. It's it's not just like if feels more real than when you're talking to someone in the room and they're they're clearly a separate person in separate mind. It feels more more authentic. Not What? She's a movie right like. I'm I'm tripping on mushrooms. It's almost like a very sensory movie. I'm watching where like involved in the plot. But there's The observer always happening in it's like very still connected to me producing that information. Yeah and yeah exactly. And the reason I see the turns mechanical themself. Transforming Machine elves. Is that these beings when you go into the world which again is is three dimensional world that you're not in the room anymore. You're in this completely other world you've been transformed and even transported to because pierce the bubble right. Yeah I'll I'll talk about that in a little bit. But basically when you encounter these things these entities they start talking to you and did her basic message is hey how are you welcome? Let I want to show you things like this is where we live like? Look at this look at this like a lot of times people people just just come out of it. Seemed like this thing just wanted to show me shapes had hands and it was creating these. This is the self transforming machine part of it is creating geometric shapes like an orb and it was just like shifting these practices around and just looking just showing it to me and they always are very welcoming and they don't say things like don't be afraid because you're already not afraid that they're wearing neutral end friendly. This is this. Is this place like hey. How's it going and then as you start to to leave the trip when it starts to dissipate like okay? I'll see you soon like it. It's very strange. It's like they basically just greet you and they say goodbye again soon and I haven't heard like them people having several trips they'll be like hey it's been a while or do you just see. Yeah yes yeah absolutely I mean I my eyes right now and I can kind of I. I would be hard to describe what I'm seeing in my mind but I can. I conclude my online if you guys go online and search self. Transforming Machine elves or D. M. T. machine elves there's some very good portrayals but a couple of artists have done. I would say pretty accurate portrayals of what those things look like. There's a guy named Alex Gray who does a lot of deep in particular but but but the really weird odd thing about this is that is that everybody has this experience. It's not like and of course you could say that people have read about it and so they're sort of like planting the seed in their minds but even people who who who have no idea about it like people that I've done it with have have never even heard this concept before they come out of it and they start immediately describing these entities these friendly entities that some Elvis making a hole in the ground. Or Something Yeah. Yeah exactly like a friend of mine was sitting there sitting there like on the ground looking at the floor and this kind of garden gnome. Type person was like laying was building like a tunnel in the floor with multi multicolored light bricks and just like like just making circles and creating tunnel into the ground and ever evolving ever moving. Th there's always fracture patterns like complex geometric shapes the white engineers those do they are the machine elves they transform things and they transform themselves. Pretty a sexual. Yeah well I would say the first time I did it. I got the distinct sense that it was a female that it was a mother. Remember came out of the experiencing. It's the mother was just saying it's the mother of the House. I kept on saying that over and I said it's the mother of the House because it was a very distinctly maternal gog goddess like a entity. That was giving me at my tour. That's just a quick sidebar. I mean generally speaking in psychedelics. It seems like female energy is more prevalent during trips like you definitely would encounter an encounter like I encountered. Leeson J. of have encountered. I think like this character of mother. Earth sort of like the goddess of Earth. That's very caring for the humanity and for the nature around us. There's there's definitely not whole lot of the Christian bearded man sitting on the like. I think the female energy and trips is especially true in girls trip with Tiffany haddish Queen Latifah grateful true. I was hoping we'd bring we come back to that. She is a Queen Right. Maybe that maybe it was Queen Latifah. And maybe you're you're actually watching girls trump. That's true. I never thought about that before. Maybe just maybe I'd Vassiliev on my eyes and I was just watching. Girls trip was this. Was this in the last few years. Yeah it was like two thousand sixteen summer of but but yeah so the journey that you arrive there. Right is very specific you travel. There's pushing through in the space. Like people call it piercing the veil or whatever but but it's basically the best way for me to describe it as described the first time. I did so so so the first time I did it I took. It's important that you take a lot of it that you smoke as much as you can until you can't joke smoke as much as you can until you don't have hands anymore so so easy base because people be scary the first time doing it and you're thinking like. Oh my God I don't want to take too much but like but you cannot take too much because you'll ingest it and then at a certain point you will be transported to another world and there's no more body more hands and there's no more smoking gleaning far away and that's probably your body and what happens. Is You time slows down right so the first time I did it. I took two maybe three heads as exhaling the music. We are listening to slow down into a series of like a resonant tones like the melody of the song to slow down it was like boom right at the time and slow down. I in reality in the room. I sort of like slid down on my back onto the couch. I was sitting at and and I I started i. I saw like like a like a two dimensional animation. So of of a practice pattern rates and the whole time. I'm like I'm trying to like there's this moment where you think you're you can't breathe because you're you've taken a breath and you've got like this and that moment where you can't breathe anymore. Erin that moment is extended for for a little while so just a quick sidebar. This is very similar to a lot of transcendental meditation started. Imitation is a lotta times for me like a baby version of J just describing with breathing because a lot of times when I start my tm. I feel like I have shallow surface breathing and then about five minutes and by body just decides to take a deep breath and after that I don't breathe for like what seems like minutes and then body decides to read it again. Yeah I I've never done that. Tryst dental meditation before. That sounds very similar. I mean what you just take those breath in and a lot of people. Panic in this micro second of a moment because they think I can't breathe. I'm going to die. I can't really can't breathe but eventually your body exhales and as you exhale usually visually in the trip you sort of like pushed through a wall of colors right so so so described it as like my whole field. You just turned into a fracture pattern like an animation. So one is right because you can do with your eyes open the but then like you should close your eyes. Because then it's just like adding pattern to like your regular room and you better like experience it at one hundred percent. Normally you'd naturally closer is when it's happening but like but don't try and open up your eyes. It's not going to be nearly as cool in fact as soon as you open your eyes. The trip is kind of over. I'm so so anyway. So close my eyes. There's a two dimensional animation selloff rattles in front of my face and then that that that that screen of my vision kind of like flops up and becomes a ceiling and reveals a floor right and so this is. This is as I've acce failed with. No I'm breathing again. And so now. I'm seeing a floor and a ceiling. A fracture patterns that are constantly shifting and then as I started breathing I start moving forward through a space. And there's like these kind of fibrous connections from the floor in the ceiling and I'm moving through it like in a spaceship moving through space. But I moved into a cave or something right and moving through this this three dimensional space and I start feeling win like I. I described as I felt like I was in a Luge bobsled laying on my back and or in like a plane with the cockpit. Open right like in a fighter jet and I'm just like I'm like a form fit banana. And there's a and the cockpit is open and I'm going progressively faster and faster. I'm going thousands of miles an hour through a three dimensional space. And there's wind. I feel it flying in my face which is probably the sensation of me breathing. I'm guessing that's what I was. I was feeling from that. But so I'm flying through this space and then all of a sudden the maternal health. Whatever you WANNA call it Entity sale the queen with Queen. Latifah comes to me and she started. She starts saying like welcome me. Hello likely in just immediately says I kind of shoot out into the space. I see like a like a Dr seuss. World of like these weird almost like Canyon Lands in Utah but with all these structures and they're kind of like they're kind of look like they're made of clay and then there's a whole city of them and she and she's she's like hi. I'm the mother of the House. This is where we live like. This is what we do look at this. Look at this ethically right. They don't address language. It's not yeah exactly it's just speaking your mind. A. And that's again another weird sensation that I can't describe which is that it reinforces the sense that there's an external intelligence that you're you're interacting with because you feel this telepathic communication. If you're not hearing someone's words you're feeling concepts now. Your thoughts are not your thoughts. Someone else's speaking inside your brain. It's it's I have no way because like no no one should have had that experience at all right right right technological way to exactly get that feeling exactly and and and again. I've done I've trip so many so many times in guns as deep as you can possibly go I would say and this is never ever happened to me and so basically it's just you know and and I should back up when he pierce the veil to you might have a bit of fear like Oh my God. I can't breathe. I'm not going to be a mega breath them. I'M GONNA die once you start once exhaled. Start breathing then that's when I felt a complete detachment from my my earthly body. My earthly being right so I was no longer Jay Hunter who had grown O. J. Hundred Esquire the lawyer. The attorney at law who who had grown up we'd been disbarred recently but for taking psychedelics but so so I I was longer Jay Hunter. Who had all these experiences on earth? I was still me but I was like the best way to describe it as I was my soul. I was like the essence of my being and all fear. There was no longer this fear of like. Oh my God. Am I going to die? I'M GONNA die attachment right. Yeah at that point the feeling was like I'm either dead or or it doesn't matter death doesn't matter the life and death is not a concept like I almost I Elevated above all that stuff like there's no pain there's no fear there's no worry about like what happens to me on earth or whatever it was just like. I myself my soul and now I'm on this fucking journey through this Dr Seuss. Land that this this mother figure is giving me a tour of and she's literally just at that point. There's no fear she's just like this is we live. I remember I floated into one of the Dr seuss cavern things and kind of landed and just took a look around like a living room. What basically felt like he felt like someone's dwelling and then and then you know it's that I think I opened my eyes and I kept on seeing. It's the mother of the House like I opened up my eyes and as soon as you open up your eyes then you detach. The entities are saying like You know like okay bye. Goodbye will soon moving away. The speed of light away from them. Yeah and you and you open up your eyes and then you try to close them again but you can't get back there anymore and an just slowly dissipates. A few minutes later you're completely sober sitting in a room being like what the fuck just happened. That's the most amazing thing I've ever happened to. You can remember. All of it is well. My Damn T- trips weren't as three act or whatever like stories structure specific like they were a lot of small entities. Dancing for me like there's a lot of a dance like means a lot to me. I think earthly life and so I think they knew that and so they were like presenting a lot of Organiz dancing for me like a lot of them and they were very childish and playful while I knew that there were like fully formed adult personalities. But they will like choosing to be childish with me and while I didn't have very one on one lake like conversation but they were always like yet. Just all kind of communicate into me in the hive mentality. Way Me seeing me off being happy. The neutrally kind of happy like short happy when I would arrive again and describing an Improv class too. So but it's interesting because I just I guess it's time to go towards the end of this beautiful recording but I wanted to say something about how much of the sort of come back to bill Hicks. And what he was saying about going back to these experiences to be. I've done a lot of hardcore tripping in the last year of my life like a year and a half and I found that exhausted my at least where I am finding myself in this point sort of exhausted like the need of going back to mushroom trips at this time. I feel like I've done such hardcore trips. That would just going for hours and hours to the point where I feel like I've done too much. I felt like a kind of got old. The knowledge there is from that and sounds also arrogant. Because like who am I to say that I've learned everything? There is to learn about the earth and the world but in some ways it felt like that I I think that's that's a mature thing to feel because because if you're taking it for self exploration and sort of self realization just doing it over and over again you're not GONNA learn anything new. You just gotTa spin around in circles. What I think is important to have these these these these crews crucial intense experiences and then have time to to just think about them and go over them and work it out. Because you're not going to be healed right away. You're going to have this expensive to reflect on. Allow you to grow with it and that's the kind of feeling. I felt at a certain point when I was in college where I just I trip so hard so many times I just felt like I was just treading the same ground and it wasn't it wasn't doing anything for me now. Flash Gordon you get there faster and faster like like do meats like now. I don't like it doesn't take twenty minutes for me to end up you know to leave. Sasha filers body and be one with the world it takes me like two minutes now. You know it's like my body note my brain knows where I'm going with it and then it's almost like okay. Well arrived now. What she would just blow up more universities and build nuance. Let's do it. I know what's going on. I think it's important to take a break into to just just kind of like like like I said. Reflect on it and then you'll know when you WANNA come back like at a certain point when I was in college I burnt myself out on it sort of a few years later. I had this realization. Like Oh my God like I put so much shit in that attic in my head. I need to release it all. I need to cleanse myself. I need all the bubble up to the top confronts my demons that have built up over the last few years and I did and it was very very helpful once again. Probably change my life. Yeah Yeah Yeah the meeting. You let every blood to where I'm at right now. That lasts like epiphany trip moment that I had years ago but but in terms of tea it's more of like visiting different universe right like it's a little bit different. From the knowledge like Marcham sue be on earth and compassion hopefully the end and I think GMT teaches. You that there's other universes yeah. Yeah no I agree completely like mushrooms are for like your earthly to work out. What's going on in this being in this body in the shell and the EMT is sort of like operating another plane. Because again you've got that sense of like I'm Jay. I'm just the spirit form of J. So then I'm not I'm not really thinking about the shit going on in my head because my head doesn't exist anymore because I'm just I'm part of the theory of plane and so the work you're doing with. Gmt is more about like what happens when you die. It's more it's more spirit. It's way more spiritual of work. It's not based on anything in this in this dimension of this plane of reality so like to meet a lot more interesting to to dabble in for that very reason because I don't have as much to explore with trip to means right now with with mushrooms better I experience. Yeah you you've got to work out what's going on in your head on this earth before you can work out what's going on with your soul. So that's what I would say. You know what I would like to hear is I would like to hear Joe Cabello. Tell us about him because you told us about what what things you've dabbled in before. But but can you tell us about one of your trips or like like an important moment of psychedelics. In your in your being in your history yeah I would say one of my. I think maybe the last mushroom trip I ever did was Pretty Great and it was definitely like a A learning experience in that that way and I spoke with. Sasha about this before it was it was a deep conversation. There was There was a lot to the the main thing I remember Taking away from it as just this lesson of we're all going to we all can't help but be ourselves and that's okay. It's kind of the main thing and I had that by being in this infinite loop with the two other people I was with where the square the triangle was the scientists. The heart and Fact I forget the last one but each person in the room just kept being the heart the scientist and then whatever. My role was whatever the name was. I needed everybody to understand where I was coming from. That's like what I desperately needed The scientists he just couldn't help but Explain have an explanation for everything and the heart was just happy to be there but didn't understand anything that was going on. So there was a point of contention between every person in that way because if I want everyone understand where I'm coming from I'm dealing with somebody who's happy for me to feel however feel but doesn't understand it then one person who can only understand it from one angle. What was the third person? He's the scientists in the heart was the third person like the the wizard or like or like the spirit like the guru or something because it can cause he's almost set like the way you described the other two makes me think that there's like this light like a spiritual like Shaman type of personnel. I forget what the name was. I think it was because the heart in the scientists. There's no like it's not like a shape and a shape you know so who knows but I know I was that person than Big Deep Patrick was the scientists and this girl Clare. My girlfriend at the time was the heart so he just kept on every conversation. We went into. I just kept falling back to US falling into our roles and I was like this is so I can't help but explain this to them but they can't help but not understand and this is just how it is and that's fine and it's funny. It's like a reflection of human relationships in general day today and it really just made me kind of I guess see things from other people's point of view a lot more on just be like okay. Everybody's coming at this differently and that was the main lesson I took away from it along with some other stuff but we we didn't necessarily I think there's probably too many of us taking it at one time But it was a good trip as far as exploring a lot of difference of our feelings and overcoming some stuff personally. How often do you think about it in your day to day life I mean fairly often Because it is one of those benchmark moments of like when you're dealing with people Just kind of to be like okay. Am I just being the this and also just patterns in life too? You know that trip was all about patterns and just being like. Oh we're always going to circle back to this conversation what we're trying to explain ourselves and what are the other big circles that our lives are hitting? Oh I'm always going to get to a point where I'm unhappy and then to a point where I'm happy and that's just these wide circle so just been seeing life in patterns since then so I referenced it a lot but I feel like I'm due for a new trip and by just having kind of been in the rights Setting and and whatnot like don't WanNa do it right now. That's for sure I'd probably freak out. I don't know if this is a good time to. Yeah I mean I. I don't know if this is a good time to do it for some people but for other people might be a good time. Ironically even though it's not a time of safety or security or you know like lately it's certainly like a time right now where we're your trip can become very difficult like i. I thought about it though. I've thought about it for me. This might be a great time to to do a really hard trip because I think I could probably handle it and it might be very helpful beneficial therapeutic but like but but I think for like like like if I've got a PhD psychedelics. If you've got if someone's got an Undergrad and psychedelics like that might not. That might not be big enough degree to trip during like a pandemic corns. Wouldn't recommend it to anybody but I will say that it's it's you know when you need to do it like like there's there's no when. I bought the first emt that I ever bought. I bought it in the year. Two thousand one and I held onto it for like seven years and didn't didn't do it because I because I was just. I wasn't ready to do it. And then at a certain point I just knew I was ready one day I just something happened a couple things happened in life and I was like okay. I'm ready to do this right now. And it just was and it took seventy years for that moment to come seventy eight years. Seventy eight years It's it's literally. I mean maybe even been ten years longer. Yeah but but it's definitely no it was like seventy years because it was before I met you and so and so that's what I would say anybody is that like like don't like if you're going to take a trip and you're gonNA take it seriously. Don't feel pressured and if you feel like on the day this is the wrong decision for me. Don't do it because obviously something in your head is saying. Don't do it so don't do it like when when you do it. You'll you'll know when the right time is and then that's when you pull the trigger. So then what is a bad trip to round US up? What is it bad trip? And Is there a church? Well I I kind of told you earlier my thoughts about that I there I mean yes. Of course there are definitely bad trips. There are people that have to mental hospitals because they took like twenty hits of acid and they've lost their they had a complete psychotic break. That certainly difficult trip is to be a little little little insensitive and a little stupid in my opinion but the but like I. I think that the the concept of bad trip is a bad concept inherently. Because what it saying I is this is. This is a substance. It's only going to give you pleasure Like a fleeting type of pleasure like drinking a beer or or or or or taking ecstasy or something like you're taking the substance in order to be happy for a amount of time and I find that the biggest benefit of psychedelics that you can take them and have a rough time while it's happening and change your life for the better forever afterwards. So it's like a sacrament that can can just bring you bring your whole life to a better place for years and years as opposed to bring you a happy place for a few hours so and and I certainly like. That kind of therapy has happened to me. Has has been born out of the quote unquote bad trips or or difficult trip is I would call it. Like those are the ones that changed for the better It wasn't the ones where everything was groovy and and I just had a fun time in laughed all night. That was great for the for that night but with the ones that really made me a better person and changed my life in a positive way where we're the bad trips. So it's you know and and again this isn't like a blanket statement that you can cover everybody out. I mean there's there's EV- every case is different. Every person's brain is different. Every trip is different but I I think it's it's it's dangerous or sort of irresponsible to to to delineate between good and bad. I think the bad ones can be the best ones for you. Great Joe. Is there anything else? You'd like to ask our guests just one gets so. Do you think there's going to be a girl's trip to I? Oh my God I almost said that at the same time because I was thinking the same thing I I hope there is. I hope the girls get back together and they go on another trip. I hope the queen's there to bring them to show them around and you know show them geometric shapes and and yeah hope and then they get stuck on the plane and shit their pants ray or p themselves. I do have a question girls strips too I. I haven't seen it Jay since you are a former lawyer. Esquire disbarred is a PSYCHEDELIC. What would you say are the best movies or TV? Shows are done that maybe are not necessarily about psychedelics. Maybe they are but they are the best at portraying that specific human experience of using psychedelic drugs while we're telling them fiction or nonfiction because it goes you for nonfiction. I think a couple of good things that people are interested in psychedelics. They can watch a documentary called the DMZ the spirit molecule. It's a little cheese ball. Joe Rogan is the host of it and he's showdown. He's wearing big. Joe Rogan's wearing a lab coat. I mean it's a little cringe worthy to say the least but like but but but it's based on a book. The book is very good if you want to just get into find out about and watch the documentary. Think it's particularly good there's also Hamilton's Pharmacopoeia. Hamilton Morris's show. You can see it on. Hulu sign of more shoutout to director over commercial was in once exactly no big deal namedrop and and so a Hamilton Health Gopi as a good thing just about psychedelic drugs and drugs in general but he has an episode called wizards of GMT. Which is very interesting. But as far as portrayals in fiction. What are you what you say? All this is a good trippy film or TV. Show what would that be devs? Is One nuns early about psychedelics? At all right but there are certain information. Like certain visuals yet at my recognized as true to one's experience. I think well here's one movie midsummer which is a very disturbing alabam prime. Currently in midsummer. They take mushrooms and then another kind of like unknown like psychedelic substance and the way they portray the visual trip at least the visual hallucinations. I thought was was pretty accurate in terms of like what a light mushroom trip feels like. Yeah and and just just like the out of focus. Areas are kind of moving. The plants are kind of shifting and growing I think in in and again it's not portraying a trip very well as a whole just like little elements of visual hallucinations. I thought that in the movie annihilation there was a lot of like very very interested especially the end of annihilation Like the climax scene is extremely close to what a trip is. I thought that was an excellent portrayal. Even though it's not necessarily about psychedelics. I think it's very heavily influenced by cycle. Alex Garland writes us by mentioned deb's general probably a pretty experience like I'm guessing. Yeah I think I I would put money on the fact that Alex Garland is really into tripping shout out specifically the fan of the show like you see it all throughout popular. Oh Oh that's fantastic example. There's a movie called a field in England. It's a black and white movie about these guys during the seventeen hundreds fall off from a battlefield and go into a field and eat mushrooms and it is incredibly good at showing psychedelics. I'm like all fifteen minutes sequence at the end of the movie toward the end of the movie. Your ten seconds of it and being like out of this room I just checked a field in England is a fantastic movie Joe. You should definitely see that. Yeah that's agree one another. Here's just one more little thing is at the What was the Black Mirror episode? Choose your own adventure. Black Mirror talking about. Yeah bander snatched so in banner snatch there's a scene where they take LSD and it's a quick one but the one of the characters is looking at at the wall and it sort of shifting. The that's a very close interpretation of a of a light psychedelic loose nation and then at a certain point one of the other characters is kind of black sort of like starts pushing around and I saw that as being get another subtle thing but that was a pretty good visual interpretation because I mean a lot of times it's like so cheesy and it doesn't look anything like what actual psychedelic hallucinations. Like from the sixties it's like a kaleidoscope or something like the limited camera tricks they had at the time didn't really represent it properly heralding. They smoke weed and then like see rainbows cartoon rainbows and stuff. And you're like. Has Anyone actually smoked weed in this movie? I know it drives me crazy because it come on like it's like aliens trying to trying to act like they're humans or something but but oh you know what actually is another great one. Ingley movie about Woodstock. Gosh I can't remember you incredible Demetri Martin is in it. It's an Ingley movie. It's about Woodstock and end the movie. I don't really like the movie very much at all. But at the end of the movie Demetri Martin is given LSD. And he's like in Woodstock taking woodstock. Yeah okay so so. Is that what it's called now? That's the Liam. Niessen movie taken woodstock but but I don't know if that's the movies in the movie he made if you would stop. It's possible so anyway. So the movie Demetri Martin's character takes LSD and he's in the crowd woodstock looking at at the stage and man. Like I don't know I want to look back at it now just thinking about it but that was a very accurate. A psychedelic hallucination of visual interpretation. Like I've ever watching it'd be like Holy Shit. How'd they do that? Because because it just felt it just felt perfectly authentic. What ABOUT ENTER THE VOID? Enter the void. Yeah sure I think it'll overrated into the void is a little more of like there are moments of that feel like like okay. This is this. Dm T but but enter. The void is a little more. I it's it's a little nightmarish phantasmagoric gas bar and I think I don't think he I think he in fact I know because I play poker with this guy who was his partner He he he had never take he'd never taken name drought. Never namedrop he. He had never taken before gas bar but he wanted to make a movie about the MTA and so the guy. I know deep. Stay with them trip to them like before we the movie so he had done it like once or maybe twice. I don't know I I obviously there. I I would like to go back and revisit it again. Because maybe maybe he did do a good job of it. I remember. It's like slathered in Gaspar. Nowy disturbing like light and stuff and I. It's it's made the feel dirty in CD and though he did have moments. I do recall That we're pretty authentic. I think it's it's it's too. He's got too much of the Gaspara new evil sauce all over that great. Well Jay Hunter Hilter Squire. Thank you so much. For coming onto this podcast. Stay safe out there. Is there anything you'd like to plug a? Listen to my podcast. Which is even better than this podcast. It's called pod weaned Satan and it's about the greatest ban in the world's Which is weaned And I'm not joking or being in the least bit. They're the greatest band of the world and It's great podcast and you should listen to joke. Plug my bird But I'd also like to plug the robot black belt champion Dot Com. You can check out my comic book. It's up there. You can just download the free very kind of you. Well goals trip to Halloween plug girl strip three ninety nine rental on. I tunes right now. You can't get a better time. 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Cecily Strong Tries ASMR!

"The birthright in commissioner adventures with tofu grace strong strong has got to be one of my all time. I would say top ten performers on s._n._l. All time yeah. I do ask me up. I think she he has been so amazing your whole time on that show and then the last two years she's pulled into some gear that is blowing my mind and i was so excited when she came to to do our show and this is one of the few times i have a lot of fun doing this podcast but this is one of the few times i almost wet myself. I was gonna say same thing like she is very funny always but then we're doing a._s._m._a._r. Which i had no idea what that is you'll get in the episode. I i learned a lot about it but what she does towards the end is like one of the funniest moments i was crying. You can hear everyone dying. Trying microphones are so sensitive heads if you can hear all cracking up but she is just mind blowing a good and cool and anyway enjoyed excessively <music> if my driver's listening insert myself <hes> which school would you got. I went to cal arts parts. I went to u._s._c. classic rivals. I've been out here for back back and forth fairly typical podcast where did you. Where'd you come from chicago oak park. Did you do the comedy thing before you probably did. I was very serious theater actress for a long time. Thank you thank you go like this can't be that big. A house and i do live anton right. Okay well congrats in my head. It's a mansion and you're both oh selling york mansions. If you enjoy bicoastal mansion yeah. When did you become like funny <hes> really aware of it's always funny. You're always funny yeah. I think that's a is that a can i say that yeah yeah but when you were a calendar when was the time he said okay nominee cal arts. I was still like of trying to do serious theater and then we were doing a scene from angels in america because when i was eighteen and i was saying harper and it was that scene whereas like recovers in she's like are you homa and everybody everybody and people were laughing and that was like oh oh maybe this is like i think now a lot of comedy too is when real people are like dealing with their own life emotion. That's funny too. I mean that was assigned to you because the audience was let my teacher kept saying after that my i- loo- halter who was my teacher who was in the movie titanic of the old couple that decided should drown together but he after that year. He said that he was like you have to go to the groundlings or something and i was like you went to the ground out here. Yeah oh just for a year and then i moved back to chicago i i. I thought you kill it on your great and then somewhere in the last two seasons started like just pulling into some other gear. That's it's like. I think it's like i never saw myself as an impressionist so i think it was like it helps many of people that make you do them. <hes> more. I think was that many people were saying you're right for this. Yeah you might not yeah yeah yeah brian tucker always i did <hes> sarah keener with him like i am wanted to write this thing with him. That was like but i shouldn't player because i don't do impressions and i'm saying oh i think i can't because i've listened to it. So much are the opposite experience says longtime sometime ago and i got there and i was like so excited you know everyone. I've you know the host is going through the site experience every week and then someone was like you know so steve higgins. It probably still is like so. What impressions did you do and i was like wait a second like i thought i'd be good on us now because i've watched it does not mean that i know that i'm the right person for it was like <hes> i don't do any impressions and then i mean i do and then he said all right but what what voices are like accents doodoo and i was like none just kinda like you'll the camera really tight on some kind of like emotional stuff but it's quiet you now. The other experience i had was that you're really bringing back for me is <hes> i know it was going well and there's this weird relationship between the hosting the cast where you can't ask them. If it's going well yeah well i can never tell. I think we just don't know either. I don't know if i'm ever ever if like the ven diagram i was thinking what i find funny and thought and finds funny. If it's ever gonna know you know especially with are with like the people that are in the studio that night. I have no idea sometimes meaning. The audience at home is a different reaction in the studio. Yeah yeah yeah. Something's just die right on the floor where there's three more minutes. You don't like that just wait does anything that is on the floor though people think it's good at home that can't be it could be. The people go nuts in the studio and then at home right. It wasn't as funny. I can't be the other way. I feel like it has been. I don't know it's probably more like people that call themselves comedy nerds or something that say that they went crazy at home. They probably didn't but i think they like to say that they did. Maybe right lights. Those are the same people who don't watch it right but watch it yeah yeah yeah. They write about it. I remember yeah. I had a thing the lauren when i was there as like i i just started living new york. I got an apartment. There and i was like it's funny. Everyone here talks about not hang with t._v. But then everyone's talking about me being on s._n._l. So how's that working and he's like. I don't do the impression of lauren but he it's fine. I can't but i like i would be the worst and he you just said like oh yeah. It's like kinda saying now you have to. You have to do it in the voice not doing this is the first time like can't do it. He's saying. I don't have a toaster or whatever that's pretty good. I think that's the worst learn impression now. I've heard so many. Do you know what the adventure is that we're going to do no good because none of our guests no and i i know this is. How do you feel about terrified. I'm terrified okay as you should be. I think there's actually a pretty easy one being side enter okay. It's the hottest thing going right now. Skydiving great. I'll watch jewett. This adventure is sometimes referred to as a brain orgasm and he guesses on what it could be. Is that what it is a s._m._s. omar yes sleep we are going on. That's amazing isn't it. Yes because racing you think about it isn't it just you're talking on a microphone and you think and then they like but how is that an orgasm for your brain we'll find out more from carl who's coming and she's an immersive artists so she actually runs the whisper lodge when she oversees called <hes> whisper lodge. It's an immersive immersive experience so some are autonomous sensory. Meridian response is a sensory phenomenon a feeling of well-being combined with a tingling sensation patients in the scalp and down the back of the neck as experienced by some people in response to asia specific gentle stimulus cassatt touch. You know sound the sound down. Actually we'll have a problem with that but we before we go get her like. I know enough some of these. I know something about i. I know tell me what you know okay so i knew i knew that for some reason at one point i thought molly shannon was like on the wikipedia page about it but i don't thinks she is now. 'cause i've looked at. I remember learning searches. Are i'm telling you i don't leave my house. I'm crazy. I stay home and drink. Could i look up where things to watch on this island. All white casts molly shannon and she's not there anymore. I don't think she has a connection to it. I i don't even know what we're talking about where they ask them. Are you like open. You can open envelopes. People will eat pickles. People will and people have like a reaction the physical reaction to this. That's what they think. Tingling is opening pringles brain orgasms and having an organized awesome. Let's get molly on the show as possible yeah right so let's ask her about it. That's about their expert today. We'll go right. You've never tried it. I mean i've heard some. I honestly find it so bizarre so we got to create a daily harvest gate. I love this. Y'all yeah it. It comes in like dry ice putting the freezer put right in the freezer. It's legit. 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Get ten percent off off and free shipping when you use promo code m._a. As in minor adventures at brooklyn dot com b. r. o. k. l. i n. E. n. dot com <hes> i would you know i probably wouldn't know how to lenin but that is how you spell it daily waiting at ten percent off and free shipping use promo code at brooklyn dot com so go there. They're now and you will be sleeping on the same did not make the same creepy the same sheets as me and sim seems like too much of a promise you we'll we'll be sleeping not in the same bed but on the same sheets as these two gentlemen get ready for another minor adventure. It's go time people so let us begin here. I hope you don't mind getting a mind orgasm room. Sorry it was described as a mind orgasms cetera <hes> <hes> sorry my bad yeah actually the original name for it before they came up with a._s._m._a._r. Was is attention induced head orgasm but that didn't really stick named it that why i mean i guess they wanted to make it more of like a non sexual thing but people yeah people describe now. Am i remembering serving living crazy. Has anyone ever said. It's like the feeling when you finally sneeze. Has anyone ever said that. I haven't gotten no like it's just like a satisfying feeling like that. Yeah okay. Maybe someone has set those actual orgasm yeah. We i am a total novice. Sesame knows a little bit about it or you know kinda like i have no some of these adventures. I understand what we're doing before we you are. I'm excited and i am excited about this but i like. I actually needed to kind of like defined. You started off great for me. Tell me like like how you got into this. How like humans got into this share so i will start with the <hes> the definition of what a._s._m._a._r. stands for <hes> in those four letters stand for autonomous sensory meridian response so yeah. It's totally clear right now. <hes> it's autonomous because because it happens to you whether you whether you want it to or not you can't control it <hes> sensory because it has to do with the senses meridian which means the spine and response because you're responding to stimuli okay <hes> so it's basically a fancy way to say orgasm basically yeah so it's <hes> basically like a warm tingling sensation that people feel in response. It's too certain stimuli most often <hes> soft sound like whispering or sounds made with objects <hes> but it can be in response to any of the five cents not just sound but that's we'll be focusing on today because it's a podcast not just sound that's new to me what what else's you can do it through visual stimuli or tactile touch sensations <hes> even just thinking about it for some people can can elicit that response woo yeah. I've seen those people on the bus sitting there thinking <hes> i think the populists general it's like a sound something right because that's the easiest way to experience it yeah so people watch youtube videos and they get the <hes>. The response from the sounds the a._s._a. Artists on youtube is making an also from visual stimuli in the video. <hes> looks like a visual thing that would go with the sound lake lake. If for example you see i just watched a video of an artist <hes> rubbing somebody else's back and you can kind of imagine how that would feel if it was being done to you because of the the mirror neurons in the brain. If you see somebody else experiencing a sensation you kind of start to get the feeling of it it is well quick aside. I always thought it'd be really interesting. Instead of just having a massage parlour is great. Love going to getting massages got back scratch parlow. Oh yeah we come down that. I am so into that. I don't know i mean i les cree. It's more creepy than getting a massage. Yeah why why just like that feels like it's more for you than for the person getting then. It's like who i start the back scratch. I mean like i mean like if there were back scratch parlors but i want to be tails. You put on some press on nails. I know i just i don't trust anybody so i would assume it not just you. I'd be like anyone who is doing it. I feel like what are they getting. What about massages. It takes a lot for me. You don't like hard thing i think it would be. It's less physical contact massages. That doesn't make it more creepy right. I think if it was like like someone i knew and comfortable with well. I think you're you don't like both ideas massage parlor or i don't know back scratch parlor sure i mean it's not that i don't like them too. I mean to each his own. How do you feel though i would love that all right well. You seem like you're in the right line of business. <hes> so the company i work with <hes> whisper. Lodge does live a._s._m._a._r. Events so it's kinda taking this phenomenon that started on youtube tube and bringing it into the real world so we can use all five senses <hes> we have kind of an immersive theatre show. It's based around a._s._m._a._r.'s. He's telling me there's a place where someone gives me a back scratch and i listen occur sounds and stuff. Yes okay. We've come full circle. What is this is like a podcast. I started to adventures but then they get way too into this one. Go off the deep end and i become like an ass mark guy i because sometimes i think like how great would that be like right now. If i had like scout massage it'd be great so no one has to give me a scout massage here today. I just want to make that perfectly clear. I'm just gonna do scott massages say that i._t. Liking my when my hair gets done by useless remember in fourth grade when they come around and someone's looking for lice because there's like the school. I used to love that i was like. I don't know keep going like i've been feeling something up there. I that's a lot of people's like i experienced with the a._s._m._a._r. Fusing is like when they're when they're like getting a haircut when they're a kid and it's like why is this. Why does this feel so relaxing. Girls always like braid each other's hair and i was it's like i can never cut my hair because i need it to be braided in class or if there if there's someone shampooing your hair because they did the opposite of this scary stuff i mean that's what's scary. Gary movies alright yeah it. Saw is the opposite of a._s._m._a._r. You're still having a reaction to it exactly the roseanne national the opposite that is right <hes> all right so so wait. How do we do this. It can happen with props or it can happen with the voice alone <hes> if you watch a._s. M._r. videos you'll notice that the asthma artists are usually whispering because there it's very very kind of soft and quiet focus a lot of <hes> there've been some scientific studies on our recently and it's i believe that this sensation is a result of having focused personal attention on you and that's what makes it so pleasant not anything those also about hollywood too yeah so i'm i'm gonna like this great. Just whisper it here and if everything is working correctly you should just be hearing this in your left ear and now endure right okay. Let me just take a second here before we go too deep. You've been in this basically. I didn't realize already hooked into this speaker system. What is this the only two binary microphone so it's a microphone own has a lot of wires going into it that has to human ears on each side and i guess i hope this is you can hear this at home. One one of them was she's spoken are left your we heard in her left ear right right here in the right ear and then she was tapping really felt like i get where you're coming from. Now now a lot of the <hes> the asam are youtubers use these binomial microphones so the people that watch videos feel like they're really. They're having their ears being whispered into. Let's let's do it. Is there anything i have to sit back and just chill and enjoy yeah. Just sit back and enjoy. I'll just do a little demonstration of one of my favorite props and then you can kind of pick some some take some objects out that you want to practice with practice your whisper. Try whisper i into this thing. I can't tell you how this this thing is that she has to human ears microphone essentially right yeah <music> now. I'm doing my own heads by by the voices cited. You know minds mean. You should kill a dog. No murder the dog on the way home from work today. I think you should use your powers for good and not evil. That's for you. I talk okay about you. Mean the whisper whispering you head. Okay dares excitement already. I'm <music>. I'm feeling nothing she was talking about. Where you're i feel very. I feel isolated even though it's just audio. Do you know what i mean like. I did a good way. I just feel very sitting here like <hes> like we were all in a group and in my own little thing yeah it's kind of like meditative and it's a uh-huh a lot of people use it to like help them fall asleep and just relax and distress. I listen to true crime podcast fall asleep. I do you gotta have some murder. I have a question for you. Is that what about accents. I have. An awful chicago accent sometimes was this. There's like you know. I got a frontal connor who has a big ice acid stand that he works at. It's just like you say. I got one hundred got one hundred guys over ear that mom dad my brother's an and i think that's great like i mean like but is that just started. Crank thank you. Can you say it into their. I think that's great. That's great. Thank you but people normally don't have an accent when they do it right. <hes> i don't know i was just watching ching videos from this famous a smarter who has a british accent southbound against the harsh accent that we should be amazing right. Yeah i mean i feel like you can have <music> a calming presence with any accent i let's try a south african all right this is. It's not great after tragedy remember how to do it. I think it's sort of like it really countenance out. Yes you are. You're watching adam. Africa sint say that that's not is a relaxing is i would have liked all right. Let's i'm ready so i'm gonna do a little demonstration hairbrush this hairbrushes just so the listener arnott's. It is a wooden hairbrush. It seems wooden bristles. What in hairbrush. I'm tapping thinkers on the back after brash in paper the bristles with my thing going to brush my hair. The sound god brash going there. My hair reminds me of the ocean <music> now. I harris belly breast the show that's really an experience when you combing your hair even know that had a sound but the of course it has a sound like when it's going. You have such a sensitive microphone. You'll find sounds and things that you thought were silent. It's pretty cool but you kind kind of. It's like maybe it's like. The difference between our two lives like you know you leave quiet interior life as a human and then you lead performer life whether or not you're a performer incessantly you you wind up you know like it seems like it's really geared at like the private self so it makes sense yeah totally. It feels like you're talking to me like a._s._m._a._r. Is like you are definitely talking to one human rights even some of the stuff you're saying you're talking to one person yeah. It's like totally all all about individual attention. What was your reaction. I think i feel like my brain. Is maybe too loud. Maybe for like i do. I don't met like my meditation. Honestly it's like true crime and go to the gun range shooting puzzles. I do too yeah. That's sort of like how i'm i think i'm a more maybe visual like the i like math just just like solving problems very that sort of calming getting the right answer is really satisfy. Yes yeah something i noticed also is you must <hes> <hes> us really this institute. You work at really careful around like a bunch of creeps coming around right. 'cause it's like there's some weirdness. I'm sure that can in kind of bleed into this yeah like. I don't wanna kinks sharing anyone but like they're air definitely a lot of puzzles secret yeah. There's a lot of people that like see we ask as like a sexual thing or like misunderstand it that way <hes> but that's definitely not the main intention and all right so are we gonna do it ourselves. Yes so we're going to bring out and i can't we the amount of stuff we have inspired me. I feel like maybe you should let us pick like one or your payment okay. I'm gonna go nuts on. It just seems loudly now bubble wrap. I enjoy the popping the feeling is that a thing. Does that count yeah like in in the work that i do in the live as i'm our shows. The sense of feeling and touch is a part of it which is something that's kind of missed in the videos okay. What does that mean you go into the crowd and you touch people so the way the way our work is we ah rent out an airbnb and we have we maintain a cast to audience ratio of one to nimby. Now yeah like three managed are pretty chill with should one to one cast audience yeah so how big the audience we have like eight performers we have eight audience members nba's come in and if we start with like a sound bath and then we go into individual one on one the treatments so we kind of use all five senses cool well the next so sam. I've made you put down your piece of paper. You cannot look at the ad you have to because ziprecruiter is such a wonderful sponsor of all your programs. You should know at this point everything about them. I love them okay. Use them to prove it by answering the following questions shit i. I'll just explain what ziprecruiter is everyone. Here's ads for it but it's not easily enough explained well. 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Are dot com slash. I am a ziprecruiter dot com zip on over there. It's the smartest way to hire and now back to the adventure right so i'm going to we. Do you wanna give me a little some pointers on how to do it so i'm going to hold this thing that has to rubber human ears on it and then you pop it right away. I got the vibe is i kind of like yeah yeah. It's all about being slow taking your time introducing things gradually especially because as we're on a podcast right now and the listeners can't see what you're doing so talking about what you're doing introducing it. What about also kind of like putting. It's a positive messages like hey now okay. Oh that people would be great to watch as mar for that kind of positive reinforcement. It's it's all about to these amazing nights. Gonna tell my therapists next time. Talk to me like that. I think your thoughts aren't gone. They love it. You're right that israel is going to stay a real okay so i'm gonna i have bubble wrap. Why am i tell this microphone about it. <hes> my dad. Just i mean these bugs and their first addition bar bowman. It's everywhere so alan before bobby. I'm gonna feel well it. All of it. Darn comes on mhm. Maybe yeah and beth my better yeah. That's great interest struggles to be here. That one is just right. This might be an overload but haven't twist all <music> years in this little joke that i was going to do with this. It's a visual joke us so that you fake being that in thessaly you could do murder. Podcasting are gonna be bad. Joke yeah yeah awesome. I liked how you made a story out of ed. Thanks with the books and the why would you bubble wrap books and i thought well they're. I like yes by the story. I was not expecting the stirring we into my dad hears this. He's like what ah budget first edition all right. I know whose turn it is. It's easy to watch the bubbler easy gestion excessively that cocaine a refreshing coke would be an awesome one-star ooh today because i'm not going to get diabetes but you can in just open it and downs of it. Tell a story. You don't know if you can open it. I it wasn't missile. Don't open it yet. We build up to it. You're just gonna pop. It open and we only hear you drink it. We want to open it. They just got pissed. Advertising campaign with coca cola taste the one hundred ninety can't under authority of the coca cola company atlanta georgia. How do we we all feel about georgia. Stays gets me pretty hot the coca some people just coke doc in the midwest. We say <hes>. I actually am having difficulty. Yeah i know i want don't you just do twenty eight things in a row. Just do one more great. Oh god you'll hear the bubble's and stuff. I think what does this. That's a tuning for now. Let's do advanced. Is you get oh wow just for mardi gras. I flashed a lot but now my beat sir. Oh twist it up. I can't get everybody now offs. I trump beautiful speeds running joke that i would have a it's bicycle and i would crash the bank and i know my kids all my it would help me. I've been neglecting you right here. I think you now now. It's beautiful. I like now you also incorporated a story into tuning for to a standing not to advance jeff terrell. Okay okay so. Can you walk me through what you're going to do in chicago. You're gonna crash your bike. You're going to have a like a paper bag full of beads and people would be rushing to help view and then i would like cry like crash not hurt myself and all the beads would fly out with my friend dana and we go. Oh no my beats my beans. It's and then see if people would would help. Pick them up all my beans and i started to have so many any but they were going to be that size. I don't know i don't have again. I feel very vanilla. I'm really outing myself. I don't a lot of experience the anal beads you're going to regret experience now again not king shame anyone yeah yeah the cooler than i am now. They know i'm not all right. That was a real trip can you can you <hes> critique how we did <hes>. I think i think you guys did great <hes>. I love that you both put stories into it. I think that's <hes> elaborate as it went. That's a big part of of why i think people loveth amar so much is because <hes> in addition to the personal attention people like to have the feeling of <hes> somebody telling the story and <hes> i love what you did with the <hes>. I just got an ad campaign for coca cola because so many ad campaigns are are using a._s._m._a._r. There is i just heard a beer commercial in the super bowl. We're talking about that earlier. Yeah so that didn't work if i had if it had no effect on me right or does it have an effect on some people and i just didn't feel it. I think it might be hard to get an effect from it if you're just watching it on t._v. Without headphones without the binomial audio <hes> well. I want to say anybody listening out. There got had an head or gala may send me a check from european. Yeah no no no attack that all right zoey or you can just find sesame wherever she lives in deliver the check please please come to my about an address or yes. Ah yes if you're the person that got ahead orgasm from me. Please come to my house. I think that there's something about humor triggers. Here's something that doesn't let you relax a little bit right right meditation apps or like <hes> whoever we mandela the funniest guy i can think of the funniest gallagher whoever like there's a reason it's a you know like all the my wife does a lot of these sleep apps yeah and <hes> or asleep stories and no joke matthew mcconaughey has like whole channel or something. We should talk and people to sleep every night. Wow and that's the voice you know. That's the voice you wanna sleep to yeah. I i mean i'm a big fan of of adding comedy into any aspect of life but maybe maybe you're right about that <hes> because what's funny about got matthew you get. Both you know it yeah. Yeah i guess laughing and experiencing. Something funny will give you a burst of energy that might take you out of the relaxation a little bit. I think that's right yeah. I remember back in the ninety. S like jim carrey. We'd go on the tonight. Show or something and i was like when someone's really funny. I feel like i'm funny afterwards. You know what i mean. I could be funny. That's right the worst when you were you did improv and stuff not until after a really not until after college but i think like you know you'll does improv. Your audience thinks they can rather around. You're being funny and they're like. I'm funny too but you're i guess you want someone. Who's very relaxing like you and then you feel more relaxed. It's contagious whatever the energy is yeah yeah. It's like how the comedy energy is. It's it's contagious and it makes you. It's like an adrenaline rush and this is kind of the opposite of that. Well thank you. I think we should kind of ended. The i actually feel more relaxed getting so worked out a harley. Tell us where to find. You whisper lodge. Yes the company. I work with is is whispering lodge. Their website is whisper lodged dot n._y._c. and they're also on instagram facebook and twitter as whisper lodge and <hes> my personal website is carly blared dot com and blair carly on instagram and those places. You'll find a lot of stuff. That's not related but might be interesting to thank you so much for having gentle in our first time nine dots <hes> <hes> you're not into it at all. It's not i know i just think it doesn't like i feel tired right also like retired like relax or yeah yeah. I guess relaxed but i do feel like i could sit in a room and fill time like i've just been quiet. I would be relaxing the that she was quiet brought the pace down but also right right. I felt when i close my eyes that last time she was doing it and i could here it. I'm hoping when listeners listen as they can hearing in both ears. I assume i think like the objects were better for me like i just can't get past somebody whispering to me. I think she was so sweet. Though oh i know i had that none of this is this is just me. This is my neurosis. If you can't get down with her. It's rangers that's it. It's over his car. Tell me about it. I have a hermit sessile. You're awesome awesome. I actually think you're the right person to tell you why even though you didn't enjoy it. I think like you not enjoy it. I just don't think ah i didn't get a brain workout. Some i would say i got my brain. First base is how i feel. I i liked it. You know what i mean like i was into it was when i had the earphones on and it was kind of like i'd feel her. Brushing one year actually was we thought when she first started brushing it. I thought thought you were doing this next to me. It's going to stop that reaction that you would have felt if i were to do that next to you. That's that's how it all is to me. I got you the other thing. I can't get over as if they're doing. These airbnb shows where it's one to one. I'm sorry you gotta bring security. It can't be one like the people people the guys that must show up and she's pretty young girl. That's like she's going to give you a back scratch and yeah. It's like russia here. They they are coming to fuck you. You're awesome. I'm so glad we got to meet. Thank you so much for <music>.

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I'm just trying to get some of the money back from all the money that poured into therapy for the last twenty five years. I learned the language might as well use it but I I I have people approach me to podcast for years and years and I you know I'll be asked to be on somewhere. It's like let's talk about all serials. Like breakfast cereals them. I don't give a shit about old breakfast cereal. But where people come from and where. They're going in what they learned that I care about. So that's what this podcast was. Just an excuse for me to talk to people. I WanNa talk to about things that I want to talk about. And the person I'm talking today is the old dear friend of mine We sorta came up together and Chicago and the IMPROV scene. They're doing drugs rugs hanging out and she's a hilarious actress. Comedian Rachel Dra- ch- give it up or yes in the hug from the people just spent the last twenty minutes chitchatting backstage high rate. You didn't need that high. Okay Hi everyone. Thanks for so much coming out. This afternoon I mean missing. The football game is A. Is anyone watching it on their phone while Lindsay. Well Hi Rachel I should talk talk to you again. Thank you so much for doing this sir. You're here obviously. Have you done sketch. I've come here many years in a row. Oh Yeah I kind of lost track but yeah it's my annual pilgrimage. Here yeah right just to get away from your kid basically and yeah. I have a couple of friends in the area so I use it as a double public. Yeah Yeah I would say no and I have done this for years to. It's a nice reason to come to this beautiful city and hang out for a minute. Yeah well well so you know the Wendy Williams show or something nyquil Mike will fall asleep. And then I'll say okay so let's start your your from your from your from New England. Yeah from Massachusetts she said Massachusetts. Yeah kind of town. Yeah okay. I'm from Lexington if why issue question. It's helpful to expand which is We're the revolutionary war began buffs historical town. Yeah and let's see okay. Yeah that's where I'm from. I have a lot of friends that are still there. Go back. Alive is your is your family from originally Yeah Well My dad was from Boston and my mom's from like Westchester and they met in Boston. That's where yeah that's where the whole clan is in the Boston scenario. Yeah and what did they do. We'll my dad was the radiologist and my mom was like a master urban affairs you know professionals and but my dad was very very funny too so I'm like He. He was like comedian caliber. Funny I would. I'd say yeah. Yeah so he was definitely influence. And then I also had like this group of my all my girlfriends and they were really funny too. I just had like a lot of funny around. Yeah Yeah and are you an only child. Younger brother younger brother right. He's the comedy writer. Yeah Oh really what you do. He's written on a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah he's La. Oh cool. Yeah so is it. I mean it's nice to have a household. Were being funny. There's is a priority put on it. Is that just your dad or I mean. Here's your mom like a real boring. We'll see I think she doesn't like it when there's like my dad was funny. Funny to the extreme funny. It wasn't like we were like. Let's make up sketches at home like it. It wasn't like we all knew like my brother and I were going to go into comedy. It wasn't like it was just a regular atmosphere but then yeah that was sort of value and then on top of that. He was funny like they were at. My parents. Were awesome to watch in comedies. Like I watched SNL. When I was in third grade I think the first cast past? Yeah so I got into that too like they had they were. They're always watch like Carol Burnett and laughing and everything so it was always kind of like high value on that well. It's nice to because I think I think well I mean it's changing now but there was little girls for years. Were not really in courage to be funny right. Like girls aren't supposed to be the class. Clara does seem to be changing. Yeah but I think yeah just watching watching you know. Lily Tomlin and Carol Burnett and you know the first cast of us in l. and everything like it never occurred to me that girls were tuition. Be Funny and and I know you mean like in school and everything. It's like the boy class clown back in his chair and girls. Were supposed to laugh at that but yeah that was it was just always thought girls. Can we said funny funny friends. Yeah so and what kind of kid were you I I mean. I was super shy when I was little. And then like maybe like junior high school that I became sort of like class clown Ask I guess like piping up little quips from the back kind of thing and then it was also really into theater like just school. Plays and stuff so that Fred Combo of like theater and and just trusting class and stuff like that was. That was being funny sort of like a way to get out of being shy. You think you're going deep. Let's see Geez. I don't know oh I don't know this is. This is supposed to be about your jury of discovery. COBB's comedy club all right. I don't Know Theater Kid Dan. What what kind of place did you do? Well I went to summer theater camp. It was just like reeking thing in the next town over but like I've never was like I'm the lead and everything I was like you. You know no lines in the play like I was that I had many many experiences of that on the way up. It wasn't wasn't like you're destined to be an actor. It was just like like yeah and but then like yeah then I got like a few good parts in high school guys. We're really going back intriguing thing. Then I was sort of. I was but I wasn't so I'm going to reenactor. I was like Oh this is fun like that would be cool. But it wasn't like you know you're going to do this so then then I went to college and I was in an Improv group. That's like pop. That's where like how that's why I say. Okay I'm GonNa try this but I'm just you can like give it a shot just knowing it a shot and then. I can go back to Boston and become a therapist. which was the other thing that wants to do? Yeah Wow yeah. I wanted to be a therapist. They still do sometimes like I really like like hearing my friends issues like well. Have you thought that. Maybe it's because of this when they're like when I'm like just give me a little chart I am an amateur practice on the side Krantz and that I love that stuff. It's tough. Yeah yeah no I mean and it's so useful. It's such a young. My fourteen year old daughter talks about how she'd like to be therapist and I. It's yes I feel so proud about that because it's such a like at being fourteen and being like I'm interested in promoting mental health off like as a pretty cool yeah but also it's also just think if you're naturally intuitive who it is and you WanNa you WanNa talk to people about stuff. That's all their secrets right. Exact spot professional uh-huh and also as you get older. The secrets get exhausting secrets. And when you're old it's like I don't WanNa know shut up. Yeah well what kind of therapists. Where are you going to be just like a regular one regularly now like yeah not solve murders and stuff now in you know like I still really torn so I moved to Chicago and a so aside? Isn't this Improv Group. In the one summer we went to Chicago because one of the guys from there and we checked out second city and they're just to go and see it EAC. Yeah Yeah so so and then I was like okay. I'm going to try to move here after college and give it a shot but but so I did and so okay so I mentioned for classes there which I heard really easy easy to get in. Everyone gets into the class there. Second Second City and then I didn't get into the class and moved there with with a friend who's in my safe member and she got an I. Did I remember like yeah I got the call you know. Whatever she got the cost she got in? And I still haven't gone call and then I was just like it was one of those things where you put everything in your car and you drove out together in and then I was like dreams shattered but so that was just like one of many of those sure. Sure sure knows whatever you know stuck it out and I'm like you know gotten a little play and there's so many little plays you could get into Chicago so Anyway what was it my whole thing about this about this that I was still like. Oh maybe I'll still become a therapist so I I even worked at a mental health. What we call it? There's GonNa call it a mental hospital. It's probably not PC. But I worked in like a mental health facility. Thank you yeah doing activities and stuff shits. It was one of my job. What were some of the other you know like California pizza kitchen as far back as I cut cut another the waitress not? I don't know they just wouldn't. They gave me shot. You get back behind the bar. Yeah Carolina had a place on my arm for one thing well yes probably also slow. I don't know anyway Yeah that was one of my jobs. A lot of temping and La la La but then eventually really I got into the touring company at second city. Took like three years rely Brady bunch that yeah But but I met you like Improv Olympic. I don't know somewhere like right at the beginning. Yeah absolute twenty four urine Improv Olympic thinking and you and Kevin Door for dating yes. That's how Kevin Door offers a improviser comedian. And so yeah that was I just remember. Yeah the early nineties. Yeah and and how had you gone. Gone back to audition process. Had you been through the classes at seconds. Yeah so I did the classes. In addition for touring company didn't get it the first time I called. I wrote this book. I don't know if you knew I wrote a book but I read this book and I caught myself in the book to time because it's always took to time for you to get any so. Yeah like I auditioned for Tortonto and then eventually actually I got that too but yeah toward for like two and a half years to tell people what that's like I did the second city you back. Then like seconds it will there's groundlings in La and then there was second city Improv scene in New York but back then there wasn't really much so like everyone came from all over the country to Chicago to pursue this Improv dream. You know and so yeah seconds that he took like you're not out on the road for months and months you like go. Let's do a show Indiana getting event like for so as a couple times a week or like that kind of thing you pile l. into this van and go do shows like a town holler like a college cafeteria sort of thing. Yeah and I mean does it feel feel like show business because you're just so psyched. Oh my gosh second city college cafeteria but like second city so I'm in a van in an and event. Yeah Yeah So. There's a lot of fun people that you're performing with stuff. So yeah it's still felt like Showbiz you made sixty five bucks per show. Yeah and so most people had another job too. Yeah yeah no I remember. I remember that being lake at the time because I I never did second city. I just did Improv Improv Olympic. which you didn't get paid in fact you had to pay for classes and because I had a pickup truck used to carry things around for China Halpern? Who ran it? She eventually was like well. I guess you're not going to pay for classes anymore. Argue and I'm like well. Yeah now. That use pickup truck twice a week. No I'm not going to pay for classes but second city was the place that you'd get paid and I am. I do remember that there was a power to that and I was like it was something I don't. What what does it end up being like six hundred bucks a week or something like that but you can totally live off that in Chicago right? Yeah but yeah but how did you have another job. Let me just do whatever temping but then once you get hired for stage then like that's kind of it and you're all set and you got on the in the main stage right away or yeah yeah and I did four shows there. Yeah Yeah how long have you been. How long had you been in Chicago so at that point well by the time I don't know like six years or something but main stage? Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah I don't think I was there at that time. I think that when you got on main stage I think I was gone Conan. We already know when did when did you start a messy. Yeah Yeah Conan had been on a couple of years. Yeah Yeah and so I mean that's gotta still the shows in second city they're written somewhat but they're also improvised. Yeah oh well. They're written written in the new improvise afterwards every night. So you you'd get really good at Improv. Because you're improvising so you lose that fear you you know. It's just like after the first year I was up there. I didn't feel so confident. But then after you've been up there well you just feel really comfortable and so you get really good. I think you know playing with the best people so that was super fun with the shows themselves like you right like at SNL. You would sit at a computer like you know. Think of you're right. It was someone on the A computer. But but at second city you'd have an idea or someone would shut out a suggestion and then you would just be on your feet and put up a scene. That's how we wrote all the scenes for their then like back then. They videotaped them. And then you get the cassette in watch how describe and then be like. Oh that part work that part. We're try this together like that's how he would write the scenes. Yeah Yeah and WHO. was there anybody in in that group. Now that people would know yes. Spit it out. Well Tina Fey okay and I were in two shows together at Mackay was in my first show. And let's see Scots it and I'm probably forgetting a bunch. The people right now but but anyway Stephanie. We're yeah a whole bunch of really. That was on the touring company. Amy Sedaris in Stephen. Colbert Steve Carell. We're all the same cast together and it wasn't. It was pretty amazing time and thinking back on all the people that just you know were in Chicago fucking around and hanging out and I don't I don't I wasn't aware of many people that had like you said like I'm going to be honest and L.. I never I think people got to town. And they're like that's my goal. But then you have to just kind of forget about that. Like do whatever's in front of you right so I didn't know Oh anyone that was walking around and saying that I remember I remember the first Improv Class I ever took was Improv Olympic. Which del close? Who's like the guru of Improv? That was his group Insurance Health and ran it and the first class. I took which I actually took with. Kate flannery cannery from the office. WHO still a friend? But there was a kid in that class that I didn't find out until a couple classes in had moved there or from Arizona just because he was going to he wanted to be on. SNL and I when. I took the classes. That Kim Joe Piscopo no he I know he wasn't and he didn't. He never got on this. I mean as far as far as I know uh-huh and but that that was so like almost kinda daunting to me because here I was taking classes because they were local local. You know I mean you move yeah but not personnel just was sitting your mind your mind like crazy dream like oh my God what did you ever on. SNL But it wasn't no one would have been you know be like I'm GonNa be honest with you but one thing. I was thinking if if any parents out there have kids that WANNA be actors like you're always supposed to discourage them but like everyone we know that stuck with it. I think it's working in comedy for the most part I sent like. Maybe they're writers or whatever but but like I think the ratio shoves it says is a lot higher than you hear about when you're like why your kid wants to actor. It's like there is to do it like if you don't get scared off by Dan what am I also think I mean not to be a dick but we're all good you know like we all knew each other because we were in the same circles also because we knew what we were doing and and you know and then we sort of like a magnetism to that to like actually being able to do business since we're all friends we all hung out together in this big kind of comedy fraternities so then like you know one person makes it like brings up a few other people and another another person to work with those people right. It's kind of like you know bring each other up the ranks. Yeah yeah absolutely. Because it's yeah that's the best well and especially league like the way I got the job on the Conan show was just because they this guy's replacing letterman and Roberts Michael was was like asking around who doesn't have a job and I was one of the people that didn't have a job and resume or anything it was just it was just i Robert and I knew each other from hanging out and from you know drinking and driving around. LA but mm-hmm well now at what point does second the second city sort of start to you start the SNL kind of opportunity. Start to have okay so when I just got on the main stage s doesn't come through like every year they're gonNA come and take somebody like you never quite knew when you know like whatever got Lauren. We'll show Oh yes. So so when I first stage like they came through and they took like almost everyone but me and a few other people to ship you know in like their whatever in reality like Kinda new up there like. I didn't have a lot of character like I wasn't really like I wouldn't have taken either. I guess that's what I'm saying but at the time I was like. Oh this isn't going to happen. You know like it's kind of easy to take that negative reinforced and be like well. That's who I am bed. You know but then then I was in continuation from. I'm just second time to time kind of thinking about like when you're trying to be an actor it's like sometimes times. If you're not feeling fully confident you could be like okay. I guess I won't get beyond this. You know like but but anyway when I was there on the main stage for three years and then they came back and then that time I got to audition and Then I didn't get at that time then I got addition and a year later and then I guess. What was the first audition like? It was like I mean what like. I didn't get at that time so I can still say it was like dreams like pinch me moment because because I they call you in whatever they'll say show up at three or something special or is this in Chicago or New York. You're like on the stage. Each high don't even like afterwards I was that was the stage where the person comes out but That's where you audition everything. But so let's I'd say like three o'clock so you show up and you're like okay ready like here's what's gone three times and then you wait in this little room. They put you in addressing room. It's almost like psychological logical test or something and then like you wait. I think I waited like two hours. They lose when he does a so so then like I kept going through in like sometimes I'd go through it. I felt like yes and then other times I'd go through my stuff and a little remedies. ooh I just. I was like the last one to go that time. I feel like it just happened enemy when I was in a good spot on my little waiting wave and so I if I did my thing and I felt really good about it like and then you know as I I said I didn't get the job but I felt good knowing okay. I did the best I could like is left like. Oh He's screwed that up so that was actually a good feeling. Yeah well I put it out there and yeah what what form does I never auditioned. So I mean I don't know if they've changed over the years but maybe it's exact exactly the same but you just go and you do like three characters and three impressions or get your this amazing impressionist. You'd go and do a ton of you know you can kind of like twist that around a little right. But yeah so and I wasn't really. I didn't have many impressions. I only remember what he did I think I. I don't remember what that one but I think back then Ally mcbeal was a big show and I did Callisto Flockhart for that and then the characters. Oh my gosh well. I did and do the Boston thing because I done that. At second city and then to other things that like never even made it on the show. But then I didn't get and then the following year I got to go back and oh I done this show with Tina fey that we had done this to person. Sketch show yeah and written word rich and that was super. We didn't Chicago and then we didn't work so I think that's sort of like kept me in. The Tina was already a writer. There kept me in the loop. Maybe I don't know it was during the summer. That's great but then I went back and then when I got back like I already done like my a.. Game You'd think like we'll canoe huma thought up more characters during the year but I guess the answer is no so so then I like my second stringers I was like well. You saw really good get stuff. Here's something so I didn't feel as good that time but then Oso ben they're like okay they'll let you know by August fifteenth or whatever still then August fifteenth comes and goes. I didn't get it but that time I was like I was ready to move on from this dream and so but then I got a call. Oh like two weeks later on my answering machine guys because it wasn't that here and then I got to go meet with Lord and the meeting was kind of mysterious like you know. This is flying out every time to have a New York that I don't know where I was but anyways but anyway this means you don't really know what this weaning is like. Is this because I got this job. Or is this like a another round of interviews and then you just chat with Lorne now. I heard later. It's so that he's making sure like you're not Kuku. That's what I've heard like. He wants to make sure like you're not a wacky but I'm not really sure sure with that meaning is but then then I got a calling. Then they're like okay. They'll let you know by the end of this week. Okay so it's like the last minute of the last day a of that week whatever it was and then I got the call and that was probably like one of the coolest moments of and is that at at any point during this. Are Your parents like worried. That you're not gonNA make a living at this or are they pretty well see upgrade and the whole acting thing and I think maybe they dislike took my lead on this I was like I don't know anyone that was like giving myself five years. Do you know anyone that really did you. You hear about them but I don't but they're not the way. I am moving everyone else's depending like if I made progress this year then like I'm GonNa stick with this you know and I just realized I say the word like Lands GonNa be all over this and this is being recorded but any just okay. No that I'm saying a lot okay. So if you're making any progress each year then you stick with it. That's that's how it kind of works so the fact that and I had already been second city they were you know. Oh yeah yeah so. It wasn't like this has to happen as yes do you were you did you. How much younger your brother? He's three years younger did he. Did that SORTA inspire him to to because he wasn't really into performing and he kinda came into the writing inside ways so I don't think I inspired but but yeah. Yeah now what. How how? How much time do you have between getting hired and now did you live in New York when you got hired had moved to La after Chicago? Yeah and that was the second city and then okay I'm going to go out to La and L. A.. was just kind of like dead for me. I mean I thought it was gonNA swing these doors open but it didn't happen like that and so I wasn't really doing anything there and that's when I went to do the show with Tina after you win back but I was intending on staying in La. But it wasn't really my thing at the time so yeah and so how long between getting in hired and you start you know whatever two weeks later. Oh we're out there. Yeah Yeah what's it like when you start. How do you know what to do? Oh my gosh no you. You're a baby being thrown into the pool. Basically I mean I was lucky because I knew Tina Adam McKay so so they kind of show you the ropes a little bit but then at the same time. Everyone's doing their thing. You know it's very tense there and so yeah I mean in writing night. You're sometimes I remember just walking the halls and you're hearing these cackles come out of various offices and then you're like I don't have any the ideas so it could be the most fun. Part of ethanol was performing the live aspect. And that's this show you watching your little just the iconic nature of it for me but then the hardest part was the writing and thinking of characters because you might think when you see it was like Oh oh you just sit at a desk and then that just POPs in your head. But that's I mean I don't know anyone that really works like that. It's more like your whatever. You're walking down the street and you have have this epiphany. Maybe once a year like a really good character. I think that's our we and so I would kind of start to go through life you no. Oh maybe that'll make a good sketch. Just weird would happen like oh write that down yet but if you showed up for writing with no ideas and you're just sitting there you start to so how about something about a chair. You're looking around the room. Desperate totally desperate. And then if you have like maybe sometimes you know you're not on the show much going into that writing week. Then you feel more pressure on the show and then you're not in again and then it just builds up and then that's not good for comedy thinking king. You know 'cause Ryan white hot panic of must think of something so and how do you handle that stuff. Well No I. I mean like if you're not in a show very much on Saturday how much like how many days thinking about the feeling of physical but I mean because SNL SNL. I mean it's the dream job and it also has all this stuff that I'm talking to you and you know it's still like I mean everyone in the cast was it was really ensemble. I mean the cast obviously rolls over. And there's different people I was there with Will Ferrell and Molly Shannon at the beginning at the end is Andy. Sandberg and Kristen. WIG like people are coming up but there is a feeling of camaraderie and there is a feeling of really. I don't like writing by myself myself. So you have these people that you click with and right with and so so all that is the good positive part and then yes if if you go to you can you can kinda feel like you're you might get shit canned any week. So so that's kind of scary part that I mean I've always heard known so many people who worked there and I know for a because the Conan show started in ninety three. And that's we were you know were basically on the same campus as them and it seemed to be a really tough place for women at that time and I mean was it that was there. I've heard like not to take away anyone because because I've heard that from the past that was probably true it will and it was also the cast at the time was dominated by male standups. Not It's like actors you know what I mean and standups don't necessarily play well with others so it was like it seemed to be kind of a very mail me and me only kind of atmosphere via but that was all before I was much more evolved. Yeah Yeah I never felt that what do you think why do you think that is it. Just like natural evolution. Do you think there was no. Maybe it was just like the guys we had or something like you said. You know Maybe they started to bring in more women like maybe it started right now like the women are so strong on the show but they haven't for many years but I mean like you don't differentiate a French it now when you see the women are the man who's because it's just such a good thing but I do think that too that was. Yes that was you and Tina and Amy Poehler. I think really just being strong as you all were probably well thank you know. I think I know I mean it's like it's like there's just an undeniable talent that that sort of like well nazi-like indeed toot my own horn but then before me before me was molly Shannon and sheriff -Tarian on a gas Dr before I got there like stalk. Aw No talent I think with that new thing will sherry in that whole crew. I don't know it's just felt very even. Yeah yeah I thought it was. I also think they were the world sketch performers as opposed to stand and they were years where that show was mostly stand stand up comedians with like Phil Hartmann thrown in. You know which I just don't think it's not conducive to well kind of sketch comedy that I like and what I mean as you go through there how do you do. How do you know how long you're going to stay? How do you how long? How do you like sort of navigate like well the contract I think now is seven years now and then some people stay beyond that? Yeah and that's a whole I seven years seven years and then was it your decision or if I made a little muddy but I feel like I don't like I don't want to go here because it's like Hispanics Galloping. It's just like if I bring this up. Then it's going to get quoted on every Internet thing and then it's going to revive I see but it's really not a big deal so you were ready to do something else. Was Ready to go and leave it at that all right. I don't know if this is going to be like ignoring or fun. Or what would it be on every Internet thing but no so I was staying late now. It's sounding pretty okay. Well thirty rock thing which is like so because I was on thirty rock and then but then I wasn't but then when we said like oh what if I went back to now like that was the year that they were not letting people stay beyond the seven years. Still like me and Chris. Parnell and horatio were all gently guided really the door revive understand so anyone all anyone on the Internet. Please please. Don't make this a bullet some sort of magazine right now. I don't want to talk about it anymore. But it wasn't like whatever. Okay well now but I mean when after that Because you you pardon dirty rock. That then became Jane. I am a little part. Yeah a little parts and in through their. Yeah I mean how did that part that part of your like beal. Well okay. There's to answer this one is like having been having been in the business as we are. I really didn't. I didn't have any bad emotions about the part changing because I totally saw why that was happening and I was excited about doing the little part so I didn't feel any like what I didn't feel this crushing in global but the part that sucked was that it was like blown up into this big thing and it would not die my by leaving. SNL anelle was just companied by all these like store. It was just as a player but then suddenly I was like in all these stories stories and just left the host to be exactly and then yeah and then the parts that were coming my way where like you know. It's not very flattering parts after that and I went through many years of that but then then that went away now I played regular people. uh-huh reluctant five. That story around myself. Well you know really ten years ago we know Geez that was like two thousand six. Oh my God that was fourteen years ago its own times so yeah then after so then after all that happened then I would. Nothing was really happening after you think addressing then I'm going to be a movie star but it just didn't happen and so then I started a like so then I started doing things. I didn't have time to do when the busy actor so I did. All these random things and then I started writing these little not stories. I started as an exercise. Random things like I'm going to do Yoga Noga three times a week and take Spanish class and there wasn't ought to work my way and then I decided I'm trying to write something funny happened to me or humiliating. I would write it as a little essay and then I had this little stack of essays essays and then I live agent at my agency and so she liked them. But she's okay. Where's this going to go like? What's the arc of this and I didn't really know? Oh so then. They just sat on a shelf for a year and I was doing a little parts here and there and then then I got surprised pregnant and then I was like Oh. This is the end of the book and so out of surprise. Breaking is the best pineapples uh-huh Imen- also had a baby in that. I have a nine year old son. Yeah and that's all in the book and then and then everything started to pick up again and also I was like really into being this like I had. My son is forty four and I I was just like Oh my God. I want kids but I wasn't. I wasn't gonNA have the kid on my own just now knowing what I know I would go for about how much I like being among but but I wasn't Dutt type whatever I was like. I'm not going to just go. How baby amount? So I was sort of wrapping my head around not having kids and just you're accepting that I guess so then now I had this baby. I was like really into being a mom because I kind of liked that. I wasn't working twelve hour. I Don show and everything is flipped. And Yeah I really enjoyed that part of life and then everything yeah and then slowly career career started to flow back to you so and now I have it all now. She's sketch the everything I mean. I think when you're younger well. This is the point of the show. I guess I learned but what I've learned it. Is I think a lot of us. I've heard a lot of my comedian. Friends saying we want to make it improvise every night like I would go umbrella all the time performance all the time that was the priority it was such a high and it was. It was just so fun to be with all those people and then like you WanNa make the Biz and earn a living often and then but but now that you know I've like SNL was my dream job. And everything. I feel like I had this big check for myself of how fun that was anything beyond that is also really fun to like. I still love doing comedy but having in time to do the other things in life like I'm not as a whatever lack of a better word hungry to be in my own series and like that doesn't matter as much anymore I got no I think well and also nothing like having a kid to take your mind off yourself AAC said one of the sort of like I mean. It's a beautiful thing about having a kid is that you're caring for somebody else but it also is like can stop caring about this right here on the next generation instead. Yeah Yeah my my. My sister-in-law said at when she had a kid this create upset an on here before she said like a kid. It's really evident who the baby aby is like. It's not you're not the baby anymore. So it's like you really got to take care of this kid. Yeah and what's your boy's name you you live and what you liked. There's another Eli so I wanted to get my kid. Be like like three allies in class. But right when they named him Eli like everyone named their kitty life so there are three laws but no. He's he's fun- he's definitely definitely funny and he says he wants to be an actor. But I have not encouraged Jim this kit actor but he's really funny he's funny. He's very positive if there's something interfering with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals better help online. 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Just visit linked dot dot com slash three questions that's linked dot com slash three questions to get fifty dollars off your first job post terms and conditions apply. Well I mean I guess we'll go to the. Where're you going join portion of this? I mean that was part of it. Yeah yeah second question she sees okay not to punt on this question. But I've always been I don't have plans. Yeah Yeah I don't like here's what I wanted to have this done. This done this right but it could be like you know a house by Lake by the lake could be a motorhome one of those both okay late onset western late okay. Well I mean this is like a career answer. Starting a few like writing things happening But that's a career answer. So what are they books are the ones screenplay and one's a series. I don't know if they'll happen but like they're supposed to have them. But you never know so. Oh they're already. There one's a kids animated series. And I'll leave it at that okay and and Yeah there is a movie potentially right and they're all work there in the word and the word but don't ever know why and cheese. Oh you know what I would. I love doing theater but I don't like Glib when you have a kid. It's just the schedules super demanding. So once he's a little older like WanNa do Broadway sometime but I don't sing sing so it would just be like comedy or like the person that can't doesn't really have to thing and I don't know I'm trying to just like I know. This sounds super cheese ball but just like a being the moment because I don't know like a little kid. I'd like to spend a lot of time with Evan. Enjoy the little kid years. Yeah so I haven't really thought of like down the road. Do you have a good answer for that. No I asked the question now now I mean I know well I mean it for me I you know like I going through a divorce. So it's like it's my I sort of feel like I ripped my life down to the studs and I'm kind of like yeah. Yeah so I I mean as much as I have plans and stuff I realized. Oh no I'm just because one of the weird your things like one of the weird things that I think that. Like accompanies disappointment. Is it's not the loss of like what's in the president or what was in the past. It's the loss of a future that you had that you had bought of you know and and Dan. I was married for twenty five years and there was a future that I had pictured forever. That doesn't exist anymore. And that's the that's where I really feel like you know about this particular question. Where am I going? I don't have a fucking clue I mean I mean I'm still on the CONAN show and that's about it you know I got kids. I got two kids and that's about it. I mean beyond that thank you but beyond beyond that I you know it's it's it's really hard to know and I've I've always been struck by people who knew what the hell they wanted Outta life. You know I have you ever. Were you the kind of person that you know. I was more just well. I mean when I was little I was you know. Good Studen- unlike come as an achiever when I was younger. And now when you're an actor then you have all this free time a lot and then you have to at I. I really freaked me out like but now I'm just like okay. This is fun. It's like it's turned me a little lazy like totally unstructured. Yeah I don't mean like it's hard to know if you're going to work like that sounds awesome but keep yourself from just like frittering turn away. You're absolutely yeah anyway okay. Whatever that's not a really obnoxious but radic radic schedule and you have to? Have your brain adjusts to that. Yeah yeah trying to say but personality wise do you think that. Are you somebody that needs needs. A collaboration is that what drew you to Improv. As opposed to other links collaboration lately like a few things you know to think of of an idea to do something that just has to be you in your own now. So I don't know but yeah I like I like collaborating better. Yeah I that's for me. I always have been the notion. Let's way like I've never really. I've done stand up. I don't like stand up and I just came to the conclusion. I don't like to onstage by. It's not it's not that much fun and prelacy. Yeah yeah and it's always because for me also to Improv. I don't know if it was the same for you. It's like the show was sorta beside the point. It was the hanging out with people and then Chicago a lot of times. You need to show show up at a show and it'd be like the boilers out. You know which it's forty degrees in the in the venue and you can't do a show and then it was like well we're all together. Let's just go out and drink and be funny you know and not and not have the wasted on an audience or anything so Well I I am going to open this up since it's questions to the audience if you guys have any questions for us us. There's a microphone right there. If anybody wants to come up and and ask us a question nobody well that's a bomber Go ahead yeah. If you want to just go up and wait and and ask a question or thank you so much I really respect both of you. Thank you and I WANNA ask. What would you say to your? I guess. What would you say to your sixteen year old self now? The first thing I would say is like just try a little harder to learn to light cardio the trial little art. Because it's it's I'm fucked it God damn machine how about. Oh well I mean I get stumped me with that question yeah well I tell you one thing that I I would not I would tell myself to not waste so much time Being afraid of just I don't know what even you know like like I was always a kid that Kinda was like I was a smart ask but I was always terrified of getting in trouble and and I I think that as I went through you know whether it was like relationships and dating or the decisions to be made about where to go to school or what to do spent so much time being scared of of what I don't you know I mean I was well fed and had a nice place to live and now I don't I don't no what what the issue there was you know and and yeah and I think also so to like don't be afraid to say no like as I've gotten older say no I've always been kids know is like the first step of autonomy like a kid kids little kids favorite word no and it's just because you know when babies he's born they don't even think of themselves separate from their mother they think of themselves as the same so it's one of the first steps towards autonomy is like no. I'm not going to go go to bed and and I think that like especially in career situations I used to be like well all right. Yeah Okay you just to say no when and if you don't feel right about something about something like you really don't want to do something or it doesn't fit it sure. Does it feel right. You know don't be afraid to say no. I also just a few teachers that like if I had listened to them then I would. It just backed off the whole theater thing you know like if a teacher seems like a hardest maybe crazy person. Then you don't have to listen to what they say as truthful you know. I think when you're a kid or even in college or whatever you're twenty like you take that that person as their word is authority and they're right there the teacher but if you have that sense off about them like listen to your gut. Ah Okay yeah go ahead another question. You just had a quick question Rachel we love all the characters played and everything. Can you describe the process a little bit like like when you guys came up with the lovers in working with Welfare all out of the back and forth. uh-huh sure okay. So the lovers actually came from this Professor Paul Because the lover those to profess like like they were professors and so a friend of mine was taking a course and the this English professor. I didn't even have this woman as professor but she told my brand. My friend was going after winter break. And she's what are you doing my friends at. Oh nothing. I'm just laying low which is like that's that's good. Just read a book. Take a bath Edeban on spend time with your lover and so that became the big quote me and my friend so we always say lover to each other. And Mel's Alex Way back when I was twenty one or something and then like love kept betting on then like Adam McKay heard at once and he put it into a scene and then will ferrell and I went off in Rhode those guys as as a whole seat just because of that one little comment so go ahead so this question is about the movie you did wine country so I heard that that was based on a true thing that you did to the Strip but that in reality your trip was in cinema Doma not necessarily the country Ram Napa Sonoma Andrea better represent now and I was wondering drink cheaper to that but just because you thought nationally that was more recognized. I think it was just like the shooting locations. Yeah I love I love to know. This guy has an ax to grind. He's not thank you. I will show up for free locations basically okay so the real story. Yeah so I I. I love one country and so the real stories. We did go on a trip for my fiftieth. Those ladies and we he went to cinema. And then while we're on that trip I don't if it was amy poehler. Emily Spivey wrote a one of those to the idea like we should do this movie so then they actually actually went off and wrote it but I do think it was. I had nothing to do with the production so I would have been in Sonoma's but I I think you know when they go off and scout locations and all that it has to do with stuff like I know nothing about but but Nick Wilkinson in the winter. Yeah so let's see the movie. We went to our Tessa. That wasn't talking about your actual check. We went into on my gosh forget it. Oh ooh Oh my God. It's like oh I'm going to remember it by the end because we had an amazing time and there was one of the servers there was an opera singer. Only we didn't know it and so he busts saying happy birthday in opera. Oh my God. What's this place called? I'm going to remember what no okay. Yes when did you first realize funny Lou Reed ahead a super shy in. I don't know maybe maybe like seventh grade. English teacher Miss Westcott and she was funny and Silica alike. That's when I started like chime in and little comments on the back and I don't know maybe maybe around the maybe around seventh grade but then like even undoing plays like when I was interested in theatre I was not good at drama. Like wasn't good these serious but then when it was a comedy scene I've felt like Oh. Oh I know how to make this thing funny. Even I love getting a script and Warfare Theory even like when front of an audience and you realize doing the show night after night. Like what's what's so weird like at my tournament like this. It gets a huge laugh. And if I don't do that just all those little machinations I love figuring that yeah do you think Do you think that like are. Are you good in life with like like like like. Yeah you're making a choice on no no. No I mean like on stage. Wouldn't you say like you're not good with drama. You're better with comedy in real life or you afraid of serious things. View of non confrontational can't kind of Well that's a good question but no I I feel like I'm a real real per. I'm you know avoiding emotions. But I don't think I'm the best person to portray that there was just a it's more like I'm not the person to be like like whoa whenever I find it hard to cry on cue and all that stuff right. So that's what I honestly finding it hard to cry on. Cue is probably really healthy. Because I like being able to cry and the only person that I ever knew who really could cry on cue really well was my cousin amy and she she did. It just usually do not get busted for weed. And she was amazing at it and then we would say to her like cry and she would just go and tears flowing down and I. It always unnerved me. I felt like that can't be healthy. Can't be good for your mental health. Here we go next question. Trying to think of the vineyard still driving me crazy earnest and Giulio Gallo manage schevitz woods mischievous wineries Rachel when you were talking about like the negative reinforcement you felt at second city and you're kind of at this crossroads between between therapist and performing. How did you encourage yourself to keep creating even when it felt like? It wasn't paying off. Well it wasn't like I mean there. There is enough paying off that it wasn't like Oh fail it was just more like That's a good question. I mean it's sort of like. How much do you love doing this? Do you want to keep doing it because like if it's starting to feel not fun than I probably. I would've stopped. It was still fun like even when you get little like rejections along the way I mean even now like additioning you cannot addition for like twenty running things and then get the next. You're used to not getting parts by now so it's more just like it's still fun to my still enjoying this. Because if I wasn't then then I might might have gone the other direction. I guess. Yeah and it's better than working really better than half days to sit around and think of what you're GonNa do and I think the podcast for Ati Arctic race. I want to ask you. What was your favorite character? was you ever did so I mean like on SNL stages. Because I was there seven years so any character. That's getting on your favorite the moment but what I I got on the first characters. I got with the Boston thing and then I love doing the lovers in the hot tub because what I loved about that too is like NFL. You're like yeah open on a hot TUB. There's a hot a real functioning on live. TV Weird but I think you know my favorite. It was probably the Debbie Downer where we laughing. I mean that's the first one I was versus new world. And you know. I don't even know why I started laughing. I slept a word and then I don't know but it just makes me laugh. You try not to to laugh on that show because it was sort of a cheap way of getting the audience on your side like I remember before I was ever on the show and they would break. I mean I would love seeing them break on the show but but it's it's on something he wanted to do on repeat there. You know so I really try not to laugh but that one was just so out of control and I love when people would say like that show so really live like I love when things go wrong on the show. I making a quote mark for you listeners. When things go a little off on the show it reminds reminds? You like this is really live. We can't go back near this again so that was probably my favorite moment. Even though it was kind of you know unprofessional. I guess it's a really. It's I mean if you haven't seen it I actually just saw it like a month ago and it's pretty hilarious. That first Debbie Downer sketch interest. was that now who said you're Debbie Downer. Was that you'd Debbie Downer. Your idea. Debbie Downer was my idea that I had this. Yeah well I don't even know if we have time to talk about how he thought of it but anyways I sure okay so I was on this trip and when I was in Costa Rica on this trip and there were these most be nice exactly and there are these like communal tables and so is was someone just like chatting and someone's from New York and then someone's was like we were there for nine eleven and like does on vacation and like everyone on the conversation. SORTA went to a little bit of a halt to the needed to get it back going again by the nine eleven had been three three years earlier too so then like but I didn't think of it then then like a week later for some reason that pops in my head as a character named Debbie donor and then I went to Pol Appel. WHO's a writer on the show who's amazing And so we wrote that together in at first we were trying to set it in an office. Best and we wasn't flowing they couldn't get it working and then I think Paula thought of this should be somewhere really happy where everyone's having fun. And so then we thought of Disneyworld and then when we think of Downer light and then I forget what it's like. What if we put that in? It's the first time at the read through table like we. We have the music guy. Set up these cues so then every time we did it there was giant trombone. Thing and So anyway that's how we thought of that but Paula was definitely whatever the word working for It was definitely the driving force. She was definitely part of that creation. Yeah did is your Debbie Downer and you. Are you an anxious person within me like that any party I could be like you know. Like someone's like Oh it's so nice that's because of climate. Aw withhold it when it had like ten thousand of those a day but I don't say that so debbie my way of like saying ah so my ties with you so like I'm such anti eighty you really tracy shoop shoop shoop types. The biggest fan girl since forever. But I is there like any classic moment in high school. I kind of have like transcend into your different sketch. Comedies well okay. So I mean highschool like Belene. Denise Boston scenes were based on high school so like we would like the high school whatever woodshop and the Prom and we always throw in real teacher names. I don't know if your mom whatever tell your mom to listen to teacher named because they're all from high school for junior but anyway and yeah and like you know. The House Party would list all these people we went high school with. And so there's all these little references in there but that was definitely based on high school. Yeah thank thank you Tracy I say hi hi. My mom didn't go to high school with in Communist China's super five one. The I love to know how like what goes on in your head like before you go on stage for a show. Like what like. Do you think of to motivate you. What excites feeling like pumps you up for a show? You mean like an Improv. Show like Improv or sketch. For for Improv. Okay so I used I mean maybe view bill the same like I used to improvise all the time and I just feel like yeah I got this but now I do. Maybe once a year or something. So improv is all about conquering the fear. They gotta take the fear kind of never goes away like if you I mean but I'm not like having dry heaves backstage but I mean I dislike. It gives me a nervous feeling to perform. Sometimes I'm like. Why am I doing this torture you but the thing that I love about your with other people you know that they we'll have your back most of the time like the whole thing goes off the rails but Yeah so I don't know I feel like when you've been doing this long you you don't get as scared anymore but definitely for Improv. I know because I I'm the same way I rarely do Improv. And I mean I. It had been a number of year I in Long. There's long form Improv Games. That have Manala Gist. And then people do scene work and I for a long time did the monologues and I can stand up in front of a group of people and and Blab as me now very easily but doing improv. Scene Work is nerve. Wracking is just terrifying at this point and it was the same way I use. I was doing it six nights a week. And you like your brain is like a muscle it just you don't have like okay. Let's do another hour and a half show But if you don't do that I like I've always said like when people say you you want to come and do the show and I'm like why would I leave the house to be nervous. I could stay home and be nervous but but it's I recently had to. There was a fundraiser. UCSB theatre in L. A.. And the idea was is that rather than having monologues people would sing a song and then you'd improvise based on the song and it was kind of like Amy Poehler came back to do it and it was most of the original regional. UCF people were there and it was literally thirty six for him. I thought it was just GonNa sing a song and then everyone would improvise around it. I realized Oh no. We're all singing and improvising and it was literally thirty seconds. I had an improvised in like four or five years probably and luckily it was only thirty seconds before afford so I couldn't either. I couldn't get nervous like fuck it. I just got to do it. And then we did a two hour improv show and the thing that struck me after I did fine it was fun show good and at the end of it I was like no. I don't need to do that again for another five years. I was enough of that. You know I mean I guess I got my fill was young. You know so so thank you thank you thanks. How many more people we got in line? We got okay. That's good l.. Let's we'll stop it there after this Zaire member the vineyard good littler saving for the end. Oh Shit what was it. Lindmark Lindmeyer estates no Lindmeyer state funding enthusiast. Take time there states. It sounds a little bit like a trailer park uniform. Like Linda and mark they started a part but lindmark Lynnwood Linda. I Dunno it was high so you talked a little bit about working out a mental health facility when you were like earlier in your career and I wanted to hear more about like quote unquote survival jobs. What's that you had that you felt like helped you be creative and write and do Improv? On top of like making money to survive financially. Because obviously so you don't get paid when you do comedy longtime right so okay so I did. I did a lot of temping and then yet waitressing thing. I just wasn't good at us. I mentioned but I always tell people that asked me. This question is is to. I mean when you're trying to don't get a real job what you would call. Well what I mean is like a career type of job because then if you're if you're somewhere where you have to be there like united five kind of thing then I feel like those people bowl like they weren't quite as available and then they weren't quite as I dunno desperate or whatever it might be the kind of were the ones who like veered off and quits because they had more of a career focused so anything that you could be more flexible. I would say to do that. If you're really serious. Trying China make it the comedy thing and you would you say well I would say definitely like there's a lot of I mean I went to film school and I and I know people in the film business who have just done the film business and they don't know it's whether so many movies about movies is because they don't know anything else so when you work a Shitty job where you have to do what you're told by somebody that is beneath contempt. That's a learning experience that you can bring to your work and I mean it's out it's out in the shitty jobs that you were the material is it's not. It's not an Improv class. or it's not I mean it's it's even well even in comedy comedy clubs like there's a lot of comedy about comedy and it's I don't it's not my favorite thing so you're going like In your timing comedy with Improv in Chicago or do SNL or Conan was there like any like weird like pre show ritual. The guys had or something like maybe a mantra or something like that that you would say before you go on stage before you do a show cheese. I wish I had some professional a little ritual thing. But but no I mean I think. When you're starting out ZIPS APPS UP energy circle like other games the phone trust circles and all that and which is very admirable? What we should be doing now but now you just like what time? Let me get on my phone now. I did early on there. Were like games that you were supposed to do. And and the answer warm-ups physical and vocal warm right and justice. The theater school wise and I have been like going back to do Improv. I have done Improv with groups that I was like kind of it had been affiliated with where in its people kind of major similar and they actually do all that shit and I'm like what the fuck are you doing can wait. He does have a drink and talk before we talk but no I. Don't you know and after a while to do something so much like it. Ritual isn't necessary. You know it's it's you know. I mean I don't mean to. I don't mean this sound it's clocking in. It's it's at your work and so you're going to work so yeah so thanks. Thank you got two more questions so somebody. Somebody already asked my question but I still wanted to talk to guys and I had a question for Andy actually because Rachel answered. What was your favorite role or whatever but it Andy? I've followed you for a very long time starting with cabin boy and so I wondered like what's been your favorite role and then also for Rachel. I Love Billy on the street and I wondered is that obstacle course. Did you really end up in the water and it looked really cold guitar little bit about working with billy so sorry. Sorry Billy on the street. Those obstacles are real like they didn't they wouldn't show me beforehand when running through like I'm really seeing everything for the first time which I love about it and so young. I didn't know that you know crawling the Burrito. It was going to be all slimy and it was. It's really cold. Yes so that was Super Fun and then Oh my Gosh I did one the last one I did. I had to actually swing across this thing on. That was kind of scary. It looked really easy but anyway I love billy on the streets so much I also couldn't name twenty people wants to. I like your up there and you like because I tell someone like name woman in this kind of they just freeze its actually. That is kind of a dirty trick that a bit like name. Five mothers you know and it's like Oh yeah and for me my favorite read Well I loved you on strangers caned. Oh thank you thank you thank you get. That was. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That show changed my life. I'm sure your parents are very happy about the crowd. I taped it on my VCR and brought it home for them to watch. I was in college. A booster User looser white shirt. That says that was really fun and it was funny because my my ex wife was on that show. She plays coach Wolf on that show and she was pregnant with my first skit during that which I love. Oh that's all right which she was pregnant with our first child and she was Kinda supposed to be the lesbian in coach and then they just had one season she was pregnant and they just didn't even really talk about it I liked. I did a show called Andy Barker. Pi Again. I actually have a screener of that connected. Friends gave me at the time. You know that that was that was that was a really. That's you know that's all right. That's all right. I know it's Nice Guy that show is. That show was a perfect example of something that a good product that was squandered honored and it was and it was it was basically long and short of it. Is that after the pilot was made The person in charge decided not to pick it up and then somebody above him was told. Hey this show is created by the guy that's going to host the tonight show. Maybe we should give them a few episodes and so they gave it a few episodes but it but it always ended up up being on the person that had initially said no as to whether it went through so it was sort of like. I think this guy was like okay. Sure make your six episodes buck you. I said I said no and it was real shame because it was amazing. Ask Fun show. I really enjoyed the thank. You thank you so much all right. And here's our last question. No pressure trump. But that was the last question was a tough mission to follow. My question is and I'm guessing that's obvious question. The answer might be obvious but is there a moment in your past. We look back and go. We wouldn't be here tonight if it wasn't for that random occurrence or that one thing that happened to us I mean SNL Coenen. Those might be the obvious answers. But I'm wondering if there's something like an opportunity that you look back and go you know. That was that door that opened that. I wasn't expecting or choice or decision that I made. I was there at that specific time in one day and here we are today. ooh That's do you WanNa go first good question this question. I mean I can think of but not like a moment but more of a like a larger moment was just for me. It was Chicago as just moving to Chicago. And all the people that I met the both like the the actual individual people lifelong friends who also also you know. Comedy like seeing these amazing improvising with these super talented people every night. Learning a little bit from each improvisor. I love just seeing people's different styles and just getting immersed in that and then just like I just have such fond memories of Chicago and then we all kind of launched out of Chicago but we still have this connection. I mean even being right here with Andrew like like you meet someone that went through the same Chicago process. It's like you just have a short hand with everyone both like you know artistically and also just life experience it's like you guys weren't very calm in like of sorority together. So I guess Chicago would be my biggest sort of large moment tago. What about for me? I think it would be. There was a a show that was that we did in Chicago at the annoyance theater. That you were in the real brady bunch and it was for those that don't know it was just Jill Solloway who did a transparent and her sister faith they were. They were in Chicago at the time time. Faith was a accompanist. For Second City. She played piano. The classic Improv in the Chicago Style had a piano player that was scoring improvising scoring as it went on which in nobody does entity. You're just reminding me. That was so cool and there were only three people in town that could do it for people. Maybe and one of them wasn't that good and when you get that prison your wash it but they did this they had this idea to do this. Show rely Brady bunch which was just stagings things up the Brady Bunch on stage with adult actors playing it is as straight as they could and this would it that was probably like in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine or something ninety ninety and there was it became a huge thing and also when I heard that they were doing it. I thought it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard and I stood in the back of the theater to watch it on. I don't know that I've ever laughed harder at a live show as I did at that it was really funny. Really talented people doing coming in and it got to be a big thing. It was like at the time there was this wave of seventies disco leanest Algebra. It got to be thing. It was a cash cow for the theater and the took it to New York to the village Gay and the guy that had just been doing bit parts in it at that point because everybody showed up because because we got pizza and beer so we did two shows Tuesday nights. That was where we did a and there was pizza and beer. Everybody came just for the food basically weekly also and then you did bit small bits different show. There was a game show that accompanied it to fill out the show and when it went to New York the guy that was playing Mike Brady didn't WanNa go. He wanted to stay back and run the theater. And I just asked Jill I said Hey. Can I play Mike Brady look so much like read and fourteen dollars. Big and she was like she was like yeah. Sure come along and from doing that in New York I got an agent. I mean I played Mike Brady which was honey. I'm home the other. People had the better roles but I got an agent in New York from that and when that the Brady Bunch went from New York to La and I had an agent affiliated with the New York agent and so then. I just started to. Because when I was I went on one audition the entire time I was in Chicago. I just did IMPROV and I so I. It wasn't until I got out of Chicago. That actually started audition so I think that just taking that on myself to say hey. Can I go to New York and do this show. I don't I don't know that I would have been. I probably be right advertising right now if that were the case. It's it's interesting. I'm in my fifties. Now I look back and I can think of one wanted to places in my life for exactly what you just said occurred. And what was your in your life so curious when you move to Chicago Rachel did you did you like. Was it a funny or was it something that you were planning you said earlier. I think that you said you're planning for and you made you. He was like a quest. You went there to go to Chicago but What got you out of the House the dashing get into the car to drive to Chicago so so I went after I graduated college and then I did the children's theatre tour thing and then I was like okay? I'm going to go in the fall. move out with his friend and as I said it was just kind of like I wanted to know that I've given it a shot and I picked Chicago just because it was the back then like the comedy capital. I wasn't going to go to new. You wouldn't have known what to do in New York. I seen these. Two theaters are going to try to get into that theater and when I got there it was like as I said like a so many people from all over the country. Twenty three twenty four year olds had moved there the same thing so then once you hooked into that community then I moved there knowing pretty much nobody the and then you had this like built in social life too so it was like while you were all learning about Improv. You were also having fun just hanging to you so But yeah just like I said I just wanted to know I tried it. So that's got me in the car. Thank you very much. Thank you and uh thank you so much for coming you are you in any other sketch. Bishou uh-huh oh well tonight. 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477: Getting Away With It

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477: Getting Away With It

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Well I I can tell you I've only had about four hours sleep chiefly because I was a little nervous about trying something new do I what I did was. I like slammed these two pieces of plastic that look like the monsters Bruce from alien like those little alien heads clamps. You basically slide these clamps onto your tray table and prevents the person in front of you from from tilting back and slamming. It's your knees if you're told him he'd read about these kinds of the Internet thought that is simultaneously the most inventive and the most passive passive aggressive gadget he'd ever heard of called the knee defender as a tall guy who flies to three times a month for his job. He decided he had to try them attaching catching the clamps to the arms of his table with simple but next came the part that kept can awake the night before the makers of defender. N'dour have something called a courtesy card that you're supposed to then hand to the person in front of you to let them know you're deploying the knee defender clamps so so I I just tap the woman shoulder in front of me said this message is for you tight says this is. They need defender courtesy card. TM Trademark. I am using knee. Defenders not m knee defender. Tm a small plastic device that helps me protect myself by I limiting how much the seat in front of me camera kind. I wanted to let you know about this. Then underneath can check the box that said that her seat would be able to recline two inches can have been scared that handing this to somebody who is going to end up in some horrible argument with a stranger on a plane he's Canadian kaput to find a point on that. These doesn't like confrontation. We discuss what happens next and remember as we discuss this. We're sitting in the road directly behind the woman that he he ended the car to hoping that she cannot hear us because of the noise of the plane which is louder than you might think so. I had her the card and then and I my hands were sweaty and shaky so for about a minute I just sort of was paralyzed eventually. She had to me the card back home and Slayton out of their head didn't say a word that then I asked her hair you okay with this and that our tone change very cranky and said yeah. You don't see me moving my seat back to you in university extra each other. You wrote a little note on a piece of paper demanded. Just read what it said. The I will note. You couldn't really talk uh-huh yeah. My notes said I feel like a total deck right now I mean how do you how would you feel do you. Would you feel comfortable doing this to me now now yeah if some of the Disney I would immediately start looking for cues in their behavior beyond the card that there are deck. I'd be like I'd be looking for extra reasons to hate them so I'm conflicted right now because hey I got some space here. My niece felt good. I'm still being deck. You're getting away with it getting away with it in the sense that you heard her chairs up. You're not getting away with it in a sense of she probably thinks you're a dick absolutely true yeah. This is not the kind of getting away with it. The most of us want most of us what total oh getting away with it which means we don't just get our way in addition. Nobody thinks badly of us. You know nobody judges. That's what we want. That's just as true for grown men as for little boys. Do you think you're gonNA use the courtesy card and the knee defender again. I will absolutely us the knee defender again the card. I don't think I'm ever GONNA use this again. No I feel bad. It's basically your hope is going to be that the people when they try to push their CPAC. They're just GONNA think go the seats broken. Basically I'm going to be a sneak be tricky. Let them leave the seats broken. I totally relate to that choice. I think lots of us like this sneaks on a plane. If we can get away with something completely wheatley with no one ever knowing nobody judging us and just support. Nobody really hurt. Leave it a shot today up program. We are stories of people sneaking their way through through putting one over getting away with it. Some people justifying it by saying they're doing it for others for the greater good some not bothering with that. They just don't care dad hauling marijuana for the sake of his family. We have you our listeners setting things on fire and cheating in school we have politicians lying a wholesale and utterly effective way for the sake of four year olds stay with us Guan. Take your kid to work day of course the most important thing if you want to get away with some kind of wrongdoing is that you have a plan a foolproof well thought out plan with safeguards contingencies along the way to guard against everything you could think of that could possibly. Sibley possibly go wrong. Martinez has the story about his parents plan. There's using years ago by nineteen. ninety-six dad had become a truck truck driver with nothing left to haul but marijuana through his early thirties he could do little with the trucking business he'd inherited from GRANDPA except watch as a crumbled around him. Go back then. He began his days by throwing open the door to the bedroom. I shared with my brother. Dan He'd stand there is underwear looking like a tall diaper child and say say Youtube get up he would end the day drinking a lot of dollar fifty budweisers at the shanty bars that littered the port Brownsville at home. Mom Mom kept the bookkeeping. She watched the flow of money. Slow to a trickle and then stop out right. When I was in middle school my brother sisters and I knew things were dire when our mothers stop stop shopping at El Centro supermarket the Nice Grocery store as she had always told us and started bringing home bags from Lopa supermarket the Poor People Grocery Store and one morning mantra prizes me by showing up at my seventh grade Algebra class and removing leaving me getting us on the road out of Brownsville headed north. There's no explanation Cinta Achaia Day. She snaps me. Sit Down and shut up. I don't know why I didn't guess what we were doing that morning. The mom and I were lookout for Dad who's on the road somewhere behind us in one of his flat nose tractor trailers carrying a large load of marijuana and headed north. I had heard the stories raise new some of the tactics of smuggling by this point but I didn't make the connection that mom and I were driving ahead of dad to make sure the custom station was closed and if it happened to be open we were supposed to turn back and warned him. This was back in the nineteen eighties before the Patriot Act when there were two US customs checkpoints blocking the migration of drugs food eight people reptiles and parents are the roads between the United States and Mexico both about one hundred miles north of the Mexican border at highway chokepoints the station on highway seventy seven in Cerita was the busier and the better financed the checkpoint in Hebron Velo was an airstream trailer with an attached carport to protect the agents from the sun would often close for breakfast or lunch so we're headed towards that when this morning going north on highway two eighty one driving through the scenery three of asthmatic plants and stunted trees the car's hot no air conditioning. My mom and I are saying nothing to one another. We have each decided that the other is unworthy of conversation conversation we stare at the windows and think very different things will mom is thinking about one hundred dollars she and dad had spent before six o'clock that morning one hundred dollars that would help them make two thousand dollars if things went right because their first stop on this felony excursion. Asia was two dads good Annetta whom we knew as lesson Yada. That's personal witch doctor for an emergency session. There were let right through at five in the morning and they had only one burning question. Will the checkpoint be open after years of sitting through sessions with my grandmother. I didn't have to be there to know exactly exactly how it went and the good under his office. Listen Iota is older matronly dresses in a thin fraught with their hair pulled back in a bun she has my parents sit across awesome desk in a black leather seats with chrome handles a panorama photos hang around her office some wallet sized others larger and in portrait a a pencil sketch of a Camaro by one of her grandsons has next to a window. She listens closely to their question nodding sleep at their preoccupation sympathizing understanding. They've reached a decision and they can't turn back. They tell her they need to do it. No other choice anymore. She stands up abruptly and walks behind her desk which is cluttered with sheets of notebook paper crawling. INC illegible notes names of people sets of cryptic numbers home addresses of saints. She closes her your eyes and scribbles something on a yellow legal pad nonsense to anyone else reading it on her desk to cheap leaded crystal bottles each filled with a clear liquid she gently reaches for matching shock loss and lifts it to the light making it sparkle she places the glass on the surface before her and pours from one bottle then the other when the to clear liquids mix they turn a deep crimson thick like plasma. She nods her head. As if her suspicions have been confirmed she produces a glass orb filled with water sitting on a black plastic ring she sits up straight closes her eyes and regulate your breathing into allowed arithmetic inhalation exultation that unconsciously forces mom and dad to do the same after a few seconds. She opens her eyes suddenly and strikes. It's the glass ORB with a metal wind making it ring in the clear morning air then she lifts the are between her to Pudgy hands and stares deeply into the inverted image of the room around rounded sitting opposite this chicanery and watching everything she does your drawn to the ritual and you can't help the try to figure it out to no. She says it with certainty the checkpoint you would not be open this morning. Go in peace be with you. When mom and I reached the checkpoint eleven forty five that morning it is very much open for for business. A line of cars five deep stretches back from the underbudgeted airstream trailer. Our job now is to go through and then turn back around and report or to dad that is doom was indeed imminent. MOM is visibly shaken. She turns off the radio with a heart click and considers. This considers her options from the car. We can see skinny middle aged white guy in Green Border Patrol garb sitting on a reclining chair in the open doorway of the airstream trailer. He's he's facing the cars as they pass under the tin roof. It must have been one hundred ten degrees inside the trailer one hundred in the shade from his position never bothering to get up the agents its founding himself with the newspaper and sleepily peers into the cars asking if everyone is an American citizen waiting for an accented answer smiling and then waving them through like a sympathetic priest granting absolution high. We all today s skinny little man. Mom's window is now only halfway open and her nervousness. She rolls it all the way up high. Sorry I mean San Antonio as she opens a window. y'All American citizens yes. She says that she leans back so he could get a clear. Look at me nodding my head. I don't say anything except the quiet yep when I nod but but he has not heard me. There is an uncomfortable pause. I think because they're supposed to hear your accent. There is an action speech and he's still hasn't let us go when I say yes. Sam a bit too. Enthusiastically mom laughs nervously. She had been hoping our lights would exonerate us without a problem. y'All have a nice day. He says like he hasn't noticed anything awkward. We drive through and I feel her seeds for the next few miles. That was about noon so we're behind us at a roadside digress. Stop Dad and my older brother. Dan Are Waiting and DAD's tractor trailer which is attached to the trailer with the marijuana the to center. I beams that run. The length of the trailer make perfect housing once you weld metal plates all along the underside and at the tail end it creates a long rectangular box sealed at the rear end with the exit of the rig which one hundred forty pound blocks marijuana can be hidden. This is added entertain. I wonder dimly if Dan is figured out what he's doing out here on the road north when he should be in highschool the Dan has always been more streetwise good savvier than me. I figure that if I figured it out Keita figured it out long before Mama I drive onto Hebburn Bill. I'm dehydrated. I WANNA stop at a store. We can't she says to me. We have to turn back. I think we're behind still hungry and really thirsty so I assist. Certainly we have time to get to a convenience store for the candidates scheduled distinct to hinge on a few minutes. Certainly they've devised this cleverly than that. Please just stop the seven eleven grudgingly. She pilots the noisy car small town and finds a convenience store. I get out with a couple of dollars and come up short when I try paying for some donuts in a chocolate milk a a return the car for more money just get in shells and I do leaving the food at the counter manweb Sakar around in trouble used to it by now we travel like that for a few minutes and when the checkpoint is back in sight we hold our breath so the guy won't see us and right then we see dad and Dan and the trailer heading right for the checkpoint data to become nervous yes or maybe brave or maybe he was blinded by one hundred dollars faith in his good on data and had charged fourth without waiting for MOMS report. Oh God my mother says and all the blood drains from my face from just tone in her voice. I had never heard her voice so charged with fear. Oh God she says again and with her left hand. She grabs the controls. The headlights and flashes at Dad was only a few hundred feet from the checkpoint. She flashes four times in clearview you of anyone who is paying attention. I wonder if that is your signal that the checkpoint is open the question the wisdom of doing it while he is next in line in full view of the guy at the checkpoint where he'd look over his shoulder and see the noisy southbound car that just drove through not thirty minutes before she slows down slows terrifically down going going less than twenty miles per hour on the highway and for a moment. I can see data's driving. I can see that the blood is drained from his face to making his eyebrows standout a rich black on his pallid deathly white forehead a mask of someone pretending desperately that everything is a okay but doing it horrifically badly. I see see Dan in the passenger seat holding onto the handrail above the door as a means to steady himself through this craziness through the stupid unnecessary risk and he looks calm collected on carry like he isn't there. There are no cars ahead of them now. The trailer is next in line mm-hmm slows to a crawl and I could see dad desperately trying to ignore the crazy flashing noisy Bonneville rattling through the southbound lane keeping his eyes fixed to the road pretending like he isn't smuggling anything the empty trailer behind him this empty useless trailer with the IBM's all sealed up with the two Mexican men driving it with no so obvious destination no paperwork no affiliation with any hauling trucking company. No Sir Not Trafficking in drugs just driving through to Houston and probably looking for work. Oh yes we're American citizens. That's not why we're nervous. We could prove that that's nothing we're nervous because of the pot were hiding and because because we're only getting two thousand dollars for risking upwards of ten years in prison isn't that funny isn't that just hysterical but the skinny white guy is having lunch and can't can't be bothered moments of this whole debacle the Bonneville the airstream. Pat's tractor are all lined up like some cosmic event and we see the skinny border patrol agent with a White Napkin Tucked under his Chin and dad's bloodless face up in the trailer through the window. The airstream agent waves through with a fork like he's conducting an orchestra gone through they go on through mob continues driving south stunned by what has just happened and I am careful not to say a word we reach Raymond Ville and stop at a water burger to get a quick quick wordless lunch then spent some time sitting in a parking lot waiting when she feels it is safe to return to turn the car around and heads back North back through the same checkpoint. Are you sure this is safe. I ask she doesn't answer when we pull up again to. The checkpoint headed back to Heaven Ville around three o'clock. There was a different border patrol agent at the Stream. He is a small clean cut militant Mexican lexikon with a southern drawl. y'All American citizens he demands instantly leaning into the car through the window clearly smelling for marijuana smoke. Oh yes says my mother who was probably quite relieved. The hard part is over and it looks like we're getting away with it. How about you son you American citizen. He gives me a direct glare air through reflective sunglasses. There is nothing more potentially hostile the indigenous ego interpreting the laws of his conquer upon his own people. Yes Sir I say careful not to move or fidget or look away like I've learned. He looks back in my mother than at me like he smells the nervousness of earlier. Something tugs at his intuition where y'all headed. The sunglasses finally asked this catches. Mom Off Guard her subterfuge. It ended when data driven through the checkpoint. She left all her answers back and Raymond Ville. We're going to Heaven Ville. She says unconvincingly had hetty asked one more question had he pressed it. We would have been in some sort of trouble but he doesn't and he backs off. MOESHA's through drives a noisy car through have been bill and we're about to the open highway again. We noticed Dad's trailer in the parking lot out of a cheap motel by the side of the road. My brother is lodged between the rear most tires working on the brake lights. That ridiculously aren't working. Mom is as alarmed to find them there as I am this confirms my suspicion that there had been no planning beyond the consultation at the Kudos. This whole debacle had been based on nothing more than a hundred dollars worth vaeth mumbles next to the trailer and I think she expects victorious reunion when he sees her does suddenly looks like he's about to punch your stupid stupid woman. He yells at her and Spanish. MOM stops cold. Were you thinking if they would have just turned around for a moment. It would all be over and it would all be your fault. He spits out her in Spanish. We realize what he's upset about. The flashing headlights is words continue to snap in his around her like bullets in a firefight and she follow him forward to the cab of the truck kowtowing to her punishment lucky for us. Lesson Iota was right. Dad says walking back with mom now excited and seemingly over is anger. She made them blind. We would let through like they were closed. when we left them later that evening. Dan was doing they pulled out of the parking taking Latin headed off to Houston and their pay off the brake lights temporarily fixed loops of black electrical tape. I watch the truck disappears. It looks like every other piece as of now broken down equipment we've ever owned rusting miserable and totally criminal mom and I turned south back to Brownsville. Mama's your usual quiet self except this time she plays the radio louder. This means stinking. It's getting dark and I'm sleepy. So I sleep talk. She'll get a so she knows the way for that. I could trust her Tina's reading from his collection the boy kings of Texas which is memoir and a finalist for the National Book Award that to get away with it after the beep so they show is rerun at a couple weeks before it originally was broadcast. We invited listeners to call in to a special phone number that we set up here at the radio. Show and tell us what things you have gotten away with over. A thousand thousands of you called are in turn back then. Tarek listen to those messages and he said that he came away from the experience seeing you very very differently than he had before he said that if these these messages are any indicator at all either cheated in school or committed some small act of arson at some point in your lives so good to know I know we should try to capitalize on that during the drive. I have no idea how but anyway here's a small selection of the messages that we received. We've found new ways of cheating on tests home. We're not proud of it. While at least I'm not kind of it but it's what we did remote Morse Code with captain during class. I by all rights should not have graduated and I shouldn't have gone to college. Which is what was happening? I got away with with graduating highschool. I lying to might be an telling her that I had. HIV The software your high school I turned into stick for my final project an embarrassed to tell you and I got away with a little bit of extortion just to him that if I can have collected a much better grade that what I thought and the super eight stages between entering the church we saw giant earthworm on the ground in the parking lot picked it up and put it in my pocket and Ford Service started my brother and I were playing with it by herself dared me to put it in the tear of girl in front of us and and and I decided to do it so I put it in her hair but because for Harissa frizzy it was the eighty as warm disappeared. She didn't feel anything my God away with being the featured speaker seminar to which I was not even invited. I'd like to tell you how I got away with posing the president cousin to get healthcare at the hospital and did you can stand. It's incredible Russia because you know I did work. I was able to ask my way out of being murdered. I was part. Eh Stop Light next to a girl trying to impress and I decided to racer stoplights and stop light show I slammed on the accelerator and just as I was flying past has to accomplish going the other way so he doesn't u-turn. I make a quick write down side streets hoping he'll chase the girl but of course he didn't. He came after me so I made another quick right up an alleyway still coming after me like swooped in behind garage jumped onto my car ran through some people yards across the main street sermon avenue and wondering what I'm GonNa do I'm now without a car and the police are looking for me so I saw another cop car parked at a parking lot of a professional building and I ran over and I said Oh my God somebody just stole my car We thought it would be fun to try to make flame throwers with WD forty and a lighter. I didn't WanNa tell the hammer only because time nineteen could get in trouble. I Ah I knew back to spot where we I had smoked that cigarette with friend and sure enough that part word of the crowd was like Yep. I feel horrible about this now but I ended up getting away with it. I I kept it to myself and the first time I'm revealing that keep it got away with it and the rest of the night giggling eating junk food like you yeah okay. We have one final story from listening. I went to an acting conservatory in New York City for two years and they told told me about a month before graduation that it wouldn't be happening for me. I was like credit and a half or two credits shy and I was like this is not a problem them figured I'd find a way to work it out. Actually think I thought I would Ferris Bueller somehow and actually be able to get my diploma. I just kept telling my parents everything everything was fine and they made plans to come to New York and go to the graduation and they were GonNa make a whole weekend trip of the thing and they came to town and I knew I was not going to be able to walk and my name was not going to be called so I sort of just just planted things in their mind all weekend like you know here. God relations for hours long. I hear a lot of people I'm going and made sure they got extremely drunk the night before and would be hung over the next day. The graduation was at one. We were all dressed up and ready to go. I was like you know what let's just skip it which have day in New York and go do something fun instead so they bought it and we just went out in in New York and I told my parents that I ended up getting a diploma in the mouth of my apartment months later and to this day they still think think I graduated from college. When I didn't interesting side note the only person I ever told that to my family with my brother after he came out of the closet. He told me he was gay and I figured I'd tell him my big secret too and he went right and told my sister because that way if I ever outed him he'd be able to say huge liar so there you go. Thanks to everybody who took the time to call see you all in. Hell coming up twelve year old Ballerina Kon Artis. You know I have one thing in here to make you listen to the story but like that that should be enough that is enough right there. I'm just going to say it again. Twelve year old Ballerina con artists come on. You can't turn away without hearing that that's coming up in just a minute. 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We have arrived at AC three of our program Mac three crime and twos okay parents would actually warn you not to let your kids here this next story except the thing that the children in in this next story accomplished would be impossible for any kids do today basically the go to the airport and they try to hop on a plane to go to another city the comedian. Molly Shannon told hold what happened to Marc Maron on his PODCAST W T F which is a great podcast. They did this in front of a live audience in November two thousand eleven. I have two plane when I was twelve. We told my dad knew my. We're GONNA have a plane to New York and it was like he dared us yeah so we were you were twelve. Oh good we went to the airport and we had Bali outfits on and we put our hair and bones. We wanted to look really innocent and this was again when flying was really easy didn't tickets through told my dad and we were just like we saw there. Were two flights. We were either going to go to San Francisco New York and we thought L. Let's go to the New York. It's leaving early so we went. We should do the stewardess. We just WANNA take my sister. It'll be go on the plane and she was like sure and then she led us on and it was really empty flight because it was out of Cleveland Ohio and we sat back there and then all of a sudden you're like in a little bit and Bunn Inhaling Maria full of grace it and then the stewardess had given us permission to you to go say goodbye by my sister came by to ask if we wanted snacks beverages and she I was like can I get you ladies something to eat. You would not so. We wonder if we'RE GONNA get in trouble but she ended up not not telling anyone and then when we landed in New York City. She was like eighty pounds. It's just it's it's exciting story but the irresponsibility of all the adults in this story is somehow undermining reminding my appreciation of it you were twelve year old girls in ballet outfits and everybody's sort of like having a good time world was at the crazy world. What did you do in New York well again because I had a crazy childhood. We call my w we didn't go. She's we'll try to so basically basically he didn't know what to do. He's at try to see if you could go find a hotel. You could stay in. I mean Mary. My sister will come meet. You will drive there so basically we were like. We'll try to find a hotel but he was kind of excited because he liked crazy stuff but basically we didn't have that much. We just had our ballet bags and a little bit of cash that we went to a diner and we dined in dash and we stole things con artists. Did you actually make it to the city. We made it to the city. I it was like how do you get to Rockefeller. Center just seem TV. Nobody said are you. Girls lost nothing like that. Having so we did try to go to hotels and my dad McCall and ask could they just stay there till we get there and none of the hotels wanted to be responsible home my gosh so he was like oh you gotta come home and he was. I'm not paying for it so trying to hop on one on the way back so we tried to hop on many planes but it was the flights were also crowded so we ended up having to have him pay for and he made us pay it all back with our babysitting money the punishment but there is no punishment. No I know clearly love that kind of stuff like I said he he was wild. He used to love the sort of strange nostalgic excitement you have for this borderline child abuse. Molly Shannon talking to mark Marian on the podcasts which I recommend and what you can find on itunes through through an Internet search we spoke with the other girl in that story who has not talked with Molly Shannon. Wild didn't know that she was telling that story publicly who confirmed all the crazy details in the story. She says they held hands and prayed while the plane took off a for Pre K. O. understand the story which is definitely a story about getting away with it in a big big way. I I need to give you some background about preschool. In recent years. there have been more and more studies showing the preschool is one of the best investments at a country can make. AAC Children's education probably the most famous piece of research on this as an old one called the Perry Preschool Project. This study began in the nineteen sixties. They took a bunch of poor kids from miscellany. Michigan put half of them into a preschool program and then the other half you know just lead normal lives and after a year that both of those groups went back into to the same public school system and then every so often researchers would follow up with these kids to see how they were doing from the two groups following still even now and the results have been amazing using at age twenty seven the kids who got preschool were half as likely to have gotten arrested they under an average of fifty percent more per month. They were fifty percent more likely you'd have a savings account. Twenty percent more likely have car preschool. Kids got sick less often. One employed less often sentenced to incarceration often other studies show similar results not just for poor kids but for other kids to they do better if they have preschool and the very first state to choose to make free three high quality preschool available almost every four year old in the state and then actually delivered on that promise turns out to be a surprising one in fact only a handful of states joined it. Alex Bloomberg reports that the story of how the state came to lead the nation in preschool access is all about getting away with it. Quick Reminder for restart. Today show is rerun from few years ago since we did this story. Some details of Oklahoma's political landscape changed. Here's Alex the State is Oklahoma and to show you just how surprising that is considered what happened to guy named Ron. Peters Peters was a freshman legislator in the Oklahoma State House of Representatives Republican one of its Party party leaders. A veteran legislator came up to him one day and said the governor also a Republican appointed this task force to look into the issue of Early Childhood Education. They came up with some recommendations. The recommendations put into this bill. The governor wants us to pass it. Will you be in charge of making that happen. I mean it's very it was free Monday and builds store. I was as a Public Private Partnership Sipa Prog Foundation said Sheriff. The bill seemed to pass pretty noncontroversial. There were no state funds involved. It was all all private money. The idea was simply to set up a nonprofit to publicize the value of early childhood education so more parents would consider it so we introduce the bill okay on the House floor. I didn't really think would bathe it. I mean how do you debate you know. Just sector was going to raise money to fund the words program so I mean couldn't argue about since Penn state money but when they said it'll be debate about seven hands on the island up to the fight against this is the nanny state build garbs. Go take her kids and raise them for us. We think kids should be raised by mom and dad elected. I thought was rush. limbaugh incarnate. I got the legislature slacks food. The heck and those people were there so I don't think there's anybody right of you. Oh no no but they the whole bunch of them. You got it passed and it passed the House passed the Senate and then all people started getting letters from the far right wing saying to the governor. This is the nanny state bill why we just take our kids from hospital and take them to utilize force. He got he got scared. A little bit I guess and Vetoed Zone Pass Force Bill Sir. I was terribly upset. Actually the governor only threatened veto but it was enough to kill bill that time around and that is how unlikely to pass Universal Public Preschool Oklahoma a bill that simply suggests that the state eight might think it's a good idea for kids to go to preschool a bill remember that doesn't involve any state money doesn't actually set up any new government programs. That bill gets attacked as socialism scuttled. Oklahoma is arguably the most conservative states in the country. It's got a Republican House. Republican Senate Republican governor four out of its five representatives to Congress are Republicans as are both at senators. One of those senators. Tom Coburn was named the most conservative senator in Congress by National Review magazine and if you need more proof consider this Oklahoma was the only state in the entire country in two thousand and eight. We're not one single county voted for Barack the Obama so how in the world that anyone gets the conservative state of Oklahoma to agree to a dramatic band of the state's public education system in preschool something that many conservatives would oppose. How did anyone get away with that. The answer Universal Public Preschool came to Oklahoma Not as part of a bold evidence-based campaign. It was snuck in in the dark and to give you a sense of just how secretly had happened. Consider this rather amazing fact at the time Ron Peters was getting in his little bill squashed by his own party in the legislature universal preschool was already in place in Oklahoma voted into law three years earlier put into law by many of the same people who are accusing Ron Peters of socialism and what's more they had probably voted for that law without even realizing it which is exactly the way the people who brought public school to Oklahoma wanted the story begins in the late nineteen nineties and it begins with a seemingly unrelated issue school superintendents around Oklahoma had discovered a loophole in the State School Funding Formula Formula and we're using that loophole to run a little scheme that involved kindergarten classes and huge amounts of money so the scheme was it was legal in Oklahoma for schools to have have either a full day or a half day kindergarten program. The loophole was that schools got paid the same amount from the state either way and so what school districts tricks began doing was running to half day programs and collecting twice as much money and if they couldn't find a five year olds to fill two kindergarten classes they would pad their numbers with four year olds. We we got right in the middle of that very very early. Lloyd snow was a school superintendent at this time. I'm who took advantage of this loophole ran to half day kindergartens and wrote a bunch of four year. Olds got paid double from the state. It was like a no brainer to not only be able to do this put it in play and in have money left over for other so desperately needed under-funding educational processes assessors yeah. I mean it was it was a good thing and we haven't had very many good thing good things in public public schools in my estimation so I didn't blink twice all around the state scheme spread four year olds were gold and the extra money they brought in went everything from football ball programs to new school equipment even new buildings. That's what happened in the district of Joe Biden's state legislature around this time there was so much money came with these children. The school district bought what we call portable classrooms a big mobile home you know that's Plunkett together and and and you've you've got a nice classroom prefab here they bought the the buildings paid cash for them with the money the the first first year it's that much gravy and then from then on they got to use the buildings in essence free now might sound like Joe was happy about this but he wasn't it seemed like a loophole that people were abusing and so for two years he tried to close it to keep out of kindergarten but got nowhere and Joe Biden's he becomes central to the story of Universal Preschool in Oklahoma. You'll hear a lot more from him later after he meets this next guy another main character in the saga a guy named Bob Harbison Bob Harbison is a self described corporate guy conservative suits tortoiseshell glasses he was for many years a senior manager edger at TWA and after that an executive in the oil and gas industry is also friends with people on the Board of the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce and one day a banker friend of mine. That was the incoming President of the chamber brought me up he said I want to talk to you about a project. We've been working being on the Chamber and he said that start in one thousand nine hundred ninety they'd put together a little task force to AH evaluate workforce development issues because they were going through Tulsa was going through a pretty explosive growth period the banker your friend explained that local businesses until I had a problem they were finding it harder and harder to hire employees with enough skills and abilities to do the job. The chamber had been looking into the reasons funds for this was a colleges and universities not training people properly high schools. They kept working back to this notion of children. Increasing numbers of children not being ready for school. This banker friend handed Bob Cardboard box filled with research and reports. It's an early childhood education then here. Look this over and see what you think we should do. Working through this cardboard box of materials have of cubicle at the chamber they in the staff had accumulated literature on the subject and I became familiar with the Perry Preschool steady and you remember reading those studies like was that sort of an Aha moment we are reading like these long term effects of preschool that what what do you remember the mindset at. I tended to frame things in terms of my I business experience. Just just sort of automatic harbison said he thought back to his career in the airline industry where one of the worst I things you can do is fly a plane with an empty seat but a kid who comes to kindergarten too far behind statistically that kid might never catch up is occupying Japan that seat in first second third grade middle school and high school but the seat might as well be empty for all the good. It's doing the kid sitting in it and also he thought when you look at the statistics of what happens to a lot of at risk kids when they get out of school they end up costing the government a lot of money they ended up incarcerated or on public assistance bad outcomes for for them and for society. I always thought about if if there was a business or a group of businesses and they had agreed to pay hey for all the outcomes they would be spending money on prevention. This cardboard box made a big impression on Bob Harbison who in his quiet way became something of a crusader for early childhood education making the case for it to anyone who would listen including sometime in the late nineteen ninety s Joe Biden's remember Joe was this legislator bill trying to close that loophole and keep four year olds out of kindergarten. Bob Harbison started making the case that we don't want fewer four year olds in public school cool. We want more of them. Here's Joe Bob. Harbison is a you know how smooth bipartisan the is the main. I never knew I was is being lobbied if I was being lobby and I just thought boy this. Bob Harvest is telling me the things I need which incidentally Bob Harbison telling the truth but that was the key that that Bob Harbison found me a willing pupil and taught me all I know about four year olds over the course of several meetings Bob Absurd with Joe the contents of that cardboard box although studies and research projects demonstrating the importance of early childhood education and Joe Gradually decided that he needed needed to change his law and make it much bigger. He would still eliminate that four year old in kindergarten for cash scheme chirp. No longer could schools pack their kindergartens with four year olds to get extra money from the state but alongside that he would provide for an actual program for four year olds an entirely new grade fully paid for by the State public in Preschool then turned out Oklahoma had a very good pilot preschool program with guidelines for choosing the appropriate curricula hiring qualified teachers but this program only existed in a few districts because according to the state didn't provide enough money to pay for it ends estimates the state provided only third of the money that was actually needed to run one of these programs uh-huh Joe Biden's plan was to take that pilot program and fully funded so that any district that wanted it could actually get paid enough to put it in place now. There was only one problem with this plan. There's probably no way it could pass knowing the state legislature would ever agree to pay for a program like this so nope Jordan's essentially hit he simply offered his amendment again the one closing the four year old's in kindergarten for cash loophole only with some new language kind of PS in which he proposed a tweak to the state school. Funding formula made it so that schools get the same amount of funding for preschool that they got for other grades. This was in fact a massive overhaul of Oklahoma's public school system but the actual taxed of Eddin's amendment. Look like nothing special the way you meant the bill bill the staff takes the sections of law that you're amending and then write get your amendments in underlined and line out you are deleting language and I just had a few words here in a few words they're still there. Were the traditional and powerful enemies to something like this. Budget Hawks and limited government folks which I said Oklahoma might lead the nation in Eddine Strategy here political sleight of hand. He drew their attention to the stuff in the bill. He thought they would like and didn't mention the stuff they wouldn't. I probably sat down at their desk with each Republican and showed them two or three things in the bill that I thought they ought to know. What would those things well. I showed him where it's keeping four year olds out of kindergarten. We're saving enormous amounts of money. You can contract with private providers and they love that that's all I said now. Everything he said was true and build did allow state money to go to private daycare centers to teach preschool also his plan was voluntary. School districts didn't have to offer a pre K. programs and parents didn't have to send their kids to one so it was entirely reasonable to expect that in the beginning at least not too many school districts would even take advantage of evidence tweak to the funding funding formula and offer a Pre K. program and one other thing hadn't had going this four year old's in kindergarten for cash scheme it was growing and it was feared the two biggest districts in the State Oklahoma City and Tulsa. We're about to get in on it says that compared to the SCHERF financial armageddon that would be his bill was the cheaper alternative. Everybody could see that. My bill was way cheaper than not my bill. If you voted no on my bill in killed it you are gonNA have enormous enrollment of four year old's in kindergarten kindergarten and this was taking an immense amount of money and all but one voted yes on the bill probably because in almost all discussions with lawmakers about his Bill Eddin left out the main part the part about how he'd put the state on the hook to pay for an entirely a new grade level new almost nobody in any legislature actually reads all the bills and the number of people who actually understood Oklahoma school funding formula you could takeout on one hand and strategy worked it was a huge and costly expansion of the government's role in public education and a state more post the costly expansions of government than perhaps any other in the country. Stephen Dow is the director of an anti-poverty agency and longtime early childhood education advocate in in Oklahoma. He worked very closely with Jones to get this law written and passed. I think it's fair to say that the number of people that understood what was going on in terms the adjustment to the state aid formula that most certainly you could you could count the number of people that were aware of that on one hand now if there had been if everybody in the state was aware of it. Would it have passed. I know that I would say that. I think it's likely it would have passed basically if if you guys hadn't snuck provision right I would say he had the FIG that had the enactment of universal so pre k. not been done through this what I would call stealth campaign. I think it's fair to say that it would not have been embraced. The irony is now that the law is in place in Oklahoma. Just adds evidence to the case for preschool researchers who studied Tulsa is pre school. Kids say they enter kindergarten an average of five months ahead and map seven months ahead and writing and nine months ahead in reading and the Games are even more pronounced for at risk kids who get preschool. Lloyd snowed the Oklahoma School. Superintendent says he didn't need a study show him that he could see at the very next year. After there's district started offering preschool I mean one year after we started. I mean we have department meetings all kinds of stuff because our kids you know have better ward recognition and letter recognition better social skills better hand eye coordination skills better editor just almost a better everything as it relates to register for school so now we've got all of our kids for whatever background. I mean they're learners now. Don't start with that stuff so no maybe I know yeah yeah yeah so so that was kind of a game changer for for for for us nothing the most schools a game changer that according to Joe Eddings the legislator who arguably did more to change the game than anyone else would not have been possible without the strange four year old's in kindergarten for cash scheme the scheme team that ends used as a smokescreen to sneak universal pre-k through skeptical legislature. I don't see it ever being funded. If you had to like other states do if you had to say here's a program that we won't implement Here's how much money it'll take. Who where are you going to get the money I if you would have to have a line item appropriation and nobody would have supported it except the young mothers and they have no political clout. What lessons could other states say other states. WanNa try to do something like this prayer. They don't have a prayer. They don't have a prayer because it's expensive and there's the state legislatures are run by people that don't WanNA THEY WANNA cut programs not at programs not everyone would agree with Edmonton this fact if you talk to experts trend around the country is for more and more kids to be enrolled in state funded preschool programs states is diversity. Georgia Iowa Vermont in West Virginia are all hard on the heels of Oklahoma with preschool programs of their own ads for Oklahoma. Parents says Lloyd's now the school superintendent. They love this program and Statistics across the state bear that up remember parents don't have to send their kids the preschool it's voluntary but I'm a seventy five percent of the state's four year. Olds are now enrolled in public preschool. However great arrived. It seems that Universal Pre-k is here to stay in Oklahoma who Alex Bloomberg. He's founder of media and the host of the podcast without fail. 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236: Is The Other Two Number One In Our Hearts?

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236: Is The Other Two Number One In Our Hearts?

"Hi, I'm Carey do back, and I'm reading for the role of man at party who smells fart. Great party. Thank you. Okay. Great. Let's go again. But this time, I think the fart is just bigger and fatter. This is the extra hot great podcast episode two hundred and thirty six for the week of January twenty eight th two thousand nineteen. I am the next big white kid David t Cole. And I'm here with party fund, Sarah, d bunting in this climate workout wig tar area. No, no, one will know. It's me stealing exercise and proud gay survivor. Fangio read we exist. L everybody and welcome to another episode of extra hot great before we get into it just a little bit of site business. And that is this. I finally have the patriots page up. So if you've been itching to send us a couple of bucks every month. Now is your chance we are linked up on the extra great dot com site. But if you want to go directly there right now check the show knows or go to patriotdepot dot com slash extra. Great. We have various tiers from two dollars up to one hundred all named after some of my favorite Simpsons. Things took check that out. We have one perk for the whole system every four hundred dollars for so lucky to get that much. We will add what I am calling an extra extra hot great at something. More than the minis. But less than episode something maybe fifteen twenty minutes long that will do one a month of for every four hundred dollars. We have up to up to what a week, you know, because we're going to be making three thousand dollars in donations at any moment cough. Okay. With that send it over to Tara and. Thank you everybody once again for poking and prodding us to get that gun. Welcome our guest. Our beloved Joe read. Hi, joe. Guys. How's it going? So we wanted to talk about the comedy central sitcom the other two this week. And since before we even decided this I had seen Joe tweeting about the screeners. I thought literally who better to join us this Joe, why don't you give our listeners a rundown of what the show is sure. So the show comes from writers and former Saturday Night Live show runners, Chris Kelly, and Sarah Schneider who Chris Kelly had done the independent film. Other people few years ago a couple years ago, it'd one Molly Shannon, independent spirit award. It's they they've they were sort of holding up for a while the kind of Kate McKinnon eighty Bryant and of SNL, it's sort of ironic that they're years show. Runners are had writers rather was the year of like the Trump sort of explosion at SNL where became all sort of Alec Baldwin Trump all the time. Anyway, this show is nothing like that this show is much much more there sensibility. If you have if you know, you have a feel for their sensibility. It is about the two adult siblings of essentially like a early phase teen breakout star in the sort of Justin Bieber mold in like broad strokes. Only the the kids stadiums is chased dreams, and he's actually like this really sort of sweet kid who is going through this incredible experience of having this pop hit breakout. Molly, Shannon's the mother the adult siblings, though, are played by drew Tarver, and Helene York and are fantastic funny in their sort of dismay at being the kind of adult cautionary tales of failure to to compare their younger sibling to who is now like breakout success, but also one of the sort of you know, brilliant things about the show is that this kid isn't shitty. Bieber clone. This is a good kid. They genuinely liked love their brother. They want the best for him as they are also sort of bemoaning their own kind of disastrous lives. He's gay. He's trying to be an actor. It's not working as you heard in the intro depressing. It's not the case. Yes. Sorry, Kerry Kerry, the older brother played back through Tarver is a struggling actor. You heard at the beginning. The FARC commercial a distinct for Brooke the sister played by Helene Yorke is sort of the unsuccessful realtor and sleeping. You know? The cliche sort of like sleeping in the house that you're showing off kind of thing, but she sort of even breaks out from there, you find out that she had wanted to be a dancer that was her sort of big lake dream that failed and then pretty soon into the season. I think even by episode two she becomes chases manager, which you know, the possibilities of that really begin to pay off down down the road in the season. I've seen nine of the first time episodes of the. Of the of the ten episodes. I guess they gave us the whole season. I would imagine. Yes. In screeners. We should say for for the. Yes, you you cannot you cannot binge all of these. We have right. We could she's not that as it's not until much later in the in this season that they float the idea of her being his manager. Right. That's what I that's what it is. It's a system. Sorry, all those things were changeable to meet. I'm so not Hollywood. I don't get it at all. I know you're not plugged in. Yeah. I saw Chris to to speak to the sweetness of chase Chase's character. Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider on Seth Meyers last week. And they talked about how the original conception of the show might have been that he was more shitty. But then they thought it's more interesting if so much more interest if he's nice, and they like him like they want good things to happen for him. They just want to like glommed onto his fame in like, it's the unexpected thing at this point. We've seen the other the other way before the more sort of cynical and more acidic kind of way, I feel like that's the more expected way to go. This is much more. Unexpected interesting. Yeah, I laughed a ton Sarah, the sitcom usually hater, what should you think? Well way to lead with something that volved farts. I mean, come on. I just loved. All the little things around the around the edges like first of all the fact that. Speaking of unexpected. I liked the adult siblings seem aware of their own wretchedness. I think that more standard things for them to be oblivious. That's like the sitcom trope is lack. That's why you have a so-called straight man because someone's acting ridiculous and they both seem fairly aware like when they cut through a limo to get onto this red carpet, and he's like an eye. Brought napkins and that just does this like tiny. I roll. And then the scenes with the scenes with him and at the restaurant and his manager who keeps announcing oh of these like aspects of gay culture that he's consumed and the co workers like see what pride and the just like leaves the scene. Yeah. It's that's really well done. The manager played by Ken Marino. Guess is. Perfect. And they know just how absurd and surreal to make it like that there. You know, he can't talk right now. He's dying his tongue can't talk right now. We've stretched out his Adam's, apple and this. This kid is to sit. Oh my God. It's it's so good. But they I mean, they get to like it sort of funny truth of of these like failures, but not. And all sorts of little truths around the edges of someone becoming famous in this way, like when he's on the red carpet, and it's like the bagel bites livestream, which that's like low hanging fruit. But then they also do the lake, you know, red or yellow and he's like red yellows tight to like just it's impossible for them to actually have an opinion, anything less. They Turnage the brand. And then the next question naturally is Israel or signed. He's my favorite small moment of the whole first season, which we watched all of and it's a Ken Marino as his manager Streeter moment. And he has this tendency, which I also do which is if nobody replies I just keep on filling the silence with yet more stuff and the further it goes along the less sense that makes and there's this one chain that ends with him say chase dream. He's a he's like he's like a father to me. This is like oh, man. I've been there. I said something that just like the opposite of what you wanted to say and just front drew knows. No, that's me. I will also say the the when in Nome premier everyone is has stuff out asleep. Yeah. Sleeping, and then the the little lines of dialogue that you do here like the their touch with that stuff is perfect because this is stuff that's really easy to lampoon. And they they never go too far and the like there's little sharp observations. And then they move on the next thing. And they always do what you expect so early enjoyed it. I only watched too, but I'm an I really liked it. It's one comment on that restraint to sorry, Joe. If I may go jump on that there are a lot of points where I expected there to be like and don't get me wrong. I love thirty rock, but I expected like a thirty rocky and cut away. To like, someone's memory, like, for example, think it's a few episodes in chases publicist comes in like has a whole binder of all of Brooks like social media fuck ups that they need to manage. And when they're listing these moments are Carey can remember like three particular instances that he rhymes off, and you kind of expect that they're going to cut away to show us, and they don't like their despite the ridiculousness that potential in the premise, don't like they keep it, very they keep it grounded. And I I appreciate it by I will jump in here because I actually clicked one of those moments. You just talked about granted this is from the third episode. So it doesn't spoil the plot at all. But obviously you will hear the joke, and is his last bit of what Tara was talking about there, basically doing background and everybody see what skeletons in their closets. He was social media fuck ups I've done in the past and case, Casey or case, Kerry Kerry, thank you, always. Casey. He just like has his fire hose of things he's talking about nobody's ever going to find out about because it didn't happen online. And this is the last one and this just baby cackle out loud. Here we go. And when I was twenty three I worked at a hotel, and Christopher Maloney stayed there. And one day he went out to the pool. So I snuck into his room and smell his underwear. But then he returned to a different room. So I don't know who's underwear I smell. Oh, good. What a perfect choice of celebrity for Maloney. Right. Exactly. That's one of my thing with the too is. It's such a well observed show in terms of the references that chooses to make. I was I was making my notes for talking about this. And I started to write down that it's not too dense in its references. But the may stop them like it is very dense. But you don't feel Mamik or oppressed by that Netflix. There's a lot of references. But the show feels very sort of at ease with it. But like honest to God there were multiple moments throughout this whole season where I'm just like wait a second like there. This is me not just a survivor thing. Although I should say that 'cause that's very good the joke in the first episode that carries got the straight roommate who he's attracted to and like the quilt. The twist on it is like he'd like they would like make out and sort of like vaguely hook up in a way that is still fully inscrutable and frustrating to carry which is like, really. Fun little ongoing thing. But so he and Brooker later talking about how how straight could this guy be he's like, well, he watches old seasons of survivor match show as many both at the same time or like violently heterosexual. And so I was I was texting our friend Kevin O'Keefe. And I was just like Tam it like that wasn't really got to me. And so and the the joke sort of recurs later in the season in mentions guys like we'll not Micronesia 'cause carries like every season. Does the same the same stuff happens? He goes not not Micronesian carries. Just goes. Yeah. That was a game changer. So I was on Twitter talking about the show in about how the the survivor joke in the pilot. You know, cut me to the quick with my friend. Caroline, who writes for Caroline Francke who writes at Bryant a and we were chatting about this and Chris Kelly like response to the chain that we're talking about. And he's like he meant he said he's like, actually he's like that survivor thing was. Based on me because I watched every season of survivor, and I'm totally obsessed with it, and whatever, and I'm just like, of course. Because like, that's the only only that kind of observations can come from that kind of knowing of thing. There's a later thing leader in the season. We're Brooke mentions the Rolling Stone cover with Justin Timberlake shirtless with turquoise jewelry. And I'm like I held onto that cover for years. It's so well because of great Debra messing joke at the end of the premiere episode that I literally was like how did I not taxed tar immediately after I saw that. Because it's just it just it. It really gets. It's like a next level. It also reminded me a little bit of difficult people. Like what if difficult people didn't feel the need to be so aggressively arch all the time, I like difficult people. But there was something about difficult people that was like needed you to know that it was like ten times smarter than everything that was going on. And I think the. The other two just sorta lives in it. And sits in it. And is there with you? And I really love that about it. I agree. I like that. The finding the absurdity in how lonely it can be in this city. Trying to do your art or whatever like that those things can co exist comfortably and they don't feel the need to be like. But you know, but it's funny. But it's also sad that it's very doing the dancing thing for the ride was so Dana flash mob. Yeah. Flash mob for the ride. Oh my God. The whole lake not like fun fun. But party fund. I mean, that's very true. But then they didn't linger on it. So. Yep. And Lance Lance is so. Delightful, Lance who dabs all the time love and still CFC. Daniel Lance is played by Jason cigar who was on sirens. Also, he was the main guys girlfriends partner cop partner, and he he also I guess had a villain Arcand arrow for awhile. And I thought at the time that I watch era, but like what a waste of such an amazing like just natural comic talent. And he was kind of like a cute dumdum on sirens as well. But like he really does it. So well, he must be super smart in real life because he makes these characters like just so winning. I mean, I was the tank for for Lance by the end of it same. There's also an instigates episode in the middle of the season that you need to see I don't even wanna talk about it. It's just it's like episode five you need to see it to believe it. It's so incredibly accurate. It's episode seven. I had to when it was starting. I had to pause it and. Try to explain instinct, the instinct gays subculture, Dave, and I don't think that he totally like believed what I was telling him until there was a moment in the episode. Spoiler mild spoiler not a plot. Spoiler either. Where they're like this the main instigate in his like, four friends or three friends who all have the same name almost are in like triathletes or wrestling singlets. And they're like he's like where are you carry us where are you going? They're like, oh, we just took picture in front of a school that burned. So good God. You're right. I still don't quite understand like is that the genie night knowingly. Or is it just like? Oh, okay. All right. No their thirst traps. Remember when I explain to you and a third strapless? That's what they all. They're just they're just in it for like stink and to add their followers and look hot. That's no. But I mean like them posing in front of some sort of disaster zone. Like, that's seemed deep. I think I'm trying to bring the say we're bringing awareness to a terrible thing that happens bodies. Okay. I get it. Yes. Along that lines. I really enjoyed the scenes with with him and his gay waiter friend when they're talking to their boss, and there was digging digging little bits of gay culture, and sort of trying to get credit for it starting with the viewing of Brokeback mountain and the pilot and the to escalate says the show goes on but just sorta their reaction, which is thank you for your service to the gate. Yeah. Nudity which the path at least resistance to getting out of this conversation. Yeah. I thought it was fantastic. Brandon Scott Jones plays the the waiter friend who also showed up in the good place finale as the gossip blogger, and then he's also in the new rebel Wilson movie, which I saw him in the trailer for so I'm like all within like the same week. I'm like, we're having a moment with Brandon Scott Jones. I'm very happy with this. Yeah. He's funny. Yeah. It's a great show. I don't know what else we can say, I although I say so much when you get to the end of the season, there's ten episodes in airs Thursdays at ten. Thirty on comedy central after broad city. If you enjoyed this story of two hangers on of a famous entertainment celebrities career May Day of an I also recommend Champaign Il. This was the show that sorta was unceremoniously released like in the hammock between Christmas and New Year's on YouTube. But premium question, Mark, which is another streaming service. You can pay money for you. Google. Plus, I know the first three episodes are free. But it's it stars Sam Richardson from veep and Detroiters and Adam pally from happy endings, the two of them are friends with this guy who's a rapper. They were all went to high school together in the rapper guy gets up like a record deal the right after the graduation. So they just go and follow him around on tour for like the next ten years and never develop any skills or like live life, and then something happens to the rapper friend, and they have to figure out what they're gonna do with the rest of their lives. So it's a similar kind of premise, very, very funny show, also ten episodes. I think it's not it's not as good as as this. It's also not as good as Detroiters. No, this is better, but it will scratch in it. It is time for around the dial. I stop Tara area. No. I wanted to do a quick check in with several shows that I've mentioned recently. Good trouble quit that show Lindsay speech club quit that show outlander probably about to quit that show. I have a finished the season finale yet. But it seems like they're pivoting to make it more about their dump daughter and tear idiot fiance, and I don't care, and I quit probably will quit that show too. And after the season three finale, please hold your tomatoes. Probably going to quit the good place. It is it's such a slog for me. Now, like all of the charm of it has gone. And the reason is it has because it stakes are the highest stakes possible. It also has no stakes at all. And the problem is like they, you know, it's it's fine. If you want to change the game and completely like just up and your whole premise from time to time. But it's like if feels like they're doing it on a mid episode basis at the. You're describing stuff where it's like we can't do this or else. Okay. First of all, they they keep describing like these horrible tortures that they're going to suffer. If everything goes wrong, which it never nothing ever goes wrong. Really? And we're going to have to see some of those tortures those jokes are going to keep landing because you can't just describe these horrible fates, and then not have it actually befall anyone that we see on camera or else. Like, I don't believe you Dr. I mean if that's not a surprise. But the problem is like it just the premise like this is like SCI fi where anything can happen. And that's just like anything can write you out of like the plot holes that you put yourself in where it's like, well, all of a sudden, there's a judge where did the judge come from is God is the judge. God. We don't know if this actual health doesn't seem that bad. It's just a bad party. We have to go through this portal. Now, we have to go through this portal. Now, we're all in Janet's dimension or whatever. Like, it just it feels like it could keep going like this forever. And and if the central point is, you know, what it feels like it feels like it's getting a virus from doctor who. Hindes being nonsensical happenings, which is like. Yeah. The part of Dr Who would always loses me, and I feel I feel what you're saying here in regards to that anyways. Yeah. I mean, I just we got to the end of the fin- the phenomena was like, I don't care about this show anymore. Like if the purpose of it is to get Chidi and Eleanor together. Like that's a bad purpose because those two have no campus Trie, a yeah. By them as a moment. And especially in the finale where it was like, let's watch these highlights from their wonderful relationship as grew over time flake plead ever saw any of this shit. It's like a montage of stuff that never happened in our universe. As far as like, we've seen like, I I know people wanna live the show, and I I get it. But like, it's just it to me. It's like it's edged too far into Sifi where it's like now, I feel like they accomplished the purpose of like getting people to be to be better. Like that was the whole point. Point of the season two finale until they decided to make her shady again with Eleanor like you had me had be oh, you lost me. Again. It's like if the point of this is like existence on her this. Syfy? There's no relief for any of us. Like, I know I don't to watch the show. Anyway, Joe defend your show. Well, so it's interesting because like all of the the sort of structural criticisms, I have to agree. Like, yes, I think all of that is true. I would have loved for them to have lingered for like a whole season on earth where they were sort of doing good deeds for people in helping ensure that seemed to be like a little sweet spot for them. You have the good relate the cool episode with like Jason's family, and then you had like Eleanor with her mother with Leslie Grossman, who, you know. I love. And that they sort of whiplash out of that. So quickly. I was like that too. I was just waiting. I guess we're just switching things up again. And I wonder if maybe part of that is the idea of like, we don't know how much more show we're going to get so right? You know, gotta like fast forward it. But to me accepting all of those criticisms, I can sort of sweep that away because for me, whatever the place setting, and whatever even the plot is going on is sort of an excuse for me to watch this collection of characters sort of bounce off of each other in a way that like, and I know that sort of sounds like excuse making or whatever, but like this show in particular feels like it's it just sort of is a play pen for these characters. Every anytime there's like I still find Darcy carton to be one of the funniest people on television doing like one of the funniest things. I love every little new bit of like what they bring out Tahani. I think. You're right about Eleanor and Chidi I've found of them enough as individual characters that I'm just like you want him to go for it like good for you make you know what I mean, probably won't work. But you know, what? Like everybody deserves to go. I sort of feel that way about Janet and Jason to sort of. It's like I don't feel like this pressing need to have them at shows shows do have a problem with aggressive need to couple everybody up at the friends thing yet. Whereas remember, it seemed like they were going to try and put Phoebe and Joey together for a while there because it just like we gotta get them. All we got a lake right. You've got them all off and Joey and Rachel to those things. Well, that was a whole other. Yeah. For sure. But I still love the characters enough that I'm still onboard with the like, you're you're not wrong, and I can see if you wear like those bad seeds kind of, you know, the the weeds from all of that become too much. I can't get through right were. Well, what's going to happen is the cycle where they go back to the roots is gonna hit soon ish. I think there's going to be some other reset where it kind of goes back to adjacent to the original premise, I believe I mean, that's usually how these things go when you get a show. This seems addicted to change eventually they'll go back to the roots. And that sorta like at what point in the planned arc is does does that happen. Because I I would bet a lot of money on that happening. Well, it's like there's a judge and there's accountants it's like there's in the show. I mean, I just like by the time they got to the scene where like Janet was wrecking everyone in a fucking, Barbara. I was like all right. This is. Ex-cop now lake any does that show. That's fine. Like, I get it. But at the same time, I feel like like it might be a function of the I think the show is only. Okay. Plus the critical response to it is like just so like oh the philosophy. We're all learning. Oh my God. The greater questions. It's raising about exists and lead LA bla. It's like nails on a chalkboard. So like those two things at the same time. It's like to me Brooklyn nine nine is a far superior show, and it doesn't get anywhere near as much love as it should compared to this sucking all the the other problem is sort of like the problem with with how alias always went back to you amnesia well with various characters. The show has been lately it's like taking people's memories out of the game sort of either on mass or a couple of time or one at a time you and now eleanor's the one that knows what's going on and other people don't like at a certain point, you kind of feel like you're getting cheated at a character development when that happens, then I feel like amnesia is right up there for me with time travel in shape Shifter's, where it kind of feels like they could have figured out a better way to get where they wanted to go. Yeah. That they did using Nietzsche as a tool, I will say Jayson men's Uca's as an evolved sexy. Yes. Yeah. Yes. To all of it. Absolutely. They put them in a tux. Yes. Way. May see you guys on Twitter wherever it's to be yelling at me their favorite fucking show. Anyway, former plug I'm j- I mentioned this last week. But now they have actually started. I'm writing recaps for decider dot com of the new TNT true crime drama. I am the night krizner line directed by Patty Jenkins. So I will link in the show notes, but go over to decider dot com and check them out. Joe goes, all right. Sublet you put from actual rent live. That's. I did watch rent live on Sunday night. I went to the home of frequent extra Huck, great guests, Adam gross worth who actually throwing a party with the food stuffs and whatnot to watch to watch Redden's. It was billed as rent live. It was very very much not live. It was rent taped from Friday night before. Because. Oh, the guy playing Roger Renan hunt broke his foot on Saturday. And so they used the rehearsal footage from Friday. Four ninety percent of the show. They all sort of pulled it back together for the closing number in part because the closing number included all of the original cast members from the original rent who were not there on for Friday because we're Celaya imagine. So it was a strange sort of thing. I think my my threshold for enjoyment for these live musicals is very low. I'm just like you're just you're putting this on. Okay. Like, it'll be a shit show. Sure fun thing to do on Saturday on Sunday with my friends. And so I it's one another one of those things where it's just like, we're the criticisms like justified yet, there was a whole thing about whether there should have been an understudy for this guy because you know, that's why you have understudies on regular Broadway shows, and and whether the rehearsal footage that was filmed. Were there where people sort of going half speed or three quarters speed because it was only a rehearsal? I would defer to somebody like Adam who is more knowledgeable than that than I and he was sort of tweeting yesterday that he didn't see a whole lot of half speed stuff. And that the under study thing while would have been nice. It's probably not feasible for show where you're only putting on one production. Yeah. One sort of in performance. So I get it. It just sorta seems like one of those like it is kind of the live TV disaster. It's just that. You're live TV disaster happened the day before he was supposed to go live. A lot of people did not come off. Very well. I think Valentina who we all if not love Andre race. At least appreciate watching the hotel Novello of it all with Valentina. A lot of people are really looking forward to her playing angel. And she was not good like, oh the energy. Was there? The the notes were not there. Like there was you know, she was a presence, and she was fun, and whatever and the costumes that they did for her. We're actually really amazing. But. Yeah. The singing wasn't there. But in a really pleasant surprise. They catch Vanessa Hudgens as Maureen I loved her. I thought she was great. She sort of comes in about maybe a third of the way into the show, and she was like, a huge little burst of energy. And I thought she was great in really committed and sort of funny in a way that I'm not usually used to Vanessa Hudgens being and then Brandon Victor Dixon wasn't. She doesn't she Rizzo. And yes, yes, which I did not watch. But yes, she was and she has played Mimi in some sort of production of rent, whether it's like a Hollywood bowl thing or something. She had she been Mimi before. So she has experienced with this. But even still I was like, I guess I'm not used to seeing Vanessa Hudgens in the context where she's good. I mostly dislike she's a judge on. So you think it can end since she's sort of annoying and that kind of thing but good for her, and I was very happy. And then they cast Brandon Victor Dixon who had been in. Jesus Christ superstar. Last spring. He was Judas in Jesus Christ superstar and was fantastic. And he was fantastic. Again. He was played Tom Collins. He has the big sort of very sad number in the second act where things I'll cover you at the funeral for the the angel character. And it's he was wonderful. So like, it wasn't a total loss. I think again, it's sort of one of those excuses for everybody to kind of huddle around if not like a party with your friends like your, you know, your Twitter account, or whatever and just sort of like make jokes with people and aggregate time. I don't think there were enough big. Wow moments. But like, I listen disfie- enough. I don't know. I think for for something where disaster happened. I think it could have gotten it could have gone a lot worse. So I don't know I'll be lenient or actually I'll mention for my plug because my first, and my plugs is my podcast this had Oscar buzz, which has been going strong now for several months by co host. File I just put up the episode where we look back at the class of two thousand eighteen all of the Oscar buzz hopefuls for this year that Nasr of last Tuesday on the nominations failed to materialize so second the mule. Yes, seriously, sorry about it. Life itself. And you also talk about the upcoming live event that you have planned with this podcast pose. Yes. So one of the one of the recurring themes that we found as we've gone through these movies that didn't quite get Oscar attention was that a lot of them did get nominations from the AARP who annually give out your AARP movies for grownups awards. Which was thing was not a thing. I knew existed before we started doing this podcast, but it's one of those if you open the IMDB tab for movie, it's one of those weird little answer Larry awards. So they've showed up an enough of the r movies that we've talked about that we've grown to love them because their taste is very specific and very demographically appropriate and in many ways, kind of cool. So we have decided that this year the AARP movies for grownups awards are being telecast on PBS ten whole days after their handed out in real life. Then you're handed out on February fifth. They won't be on television until the fifteenth. But on the. Fifteenth Chris, and I are going to hop on Twitter. And we're gonna live tweet the AARP movies for grownups awards for whoever wants to follow us on our podcast feed, which is had underscore Oscar underscored buzz, so please come follow us there. And we will have a good old time with that on February fifteenth all the podcast. We really have a really lot of fun doing it. We do have episode coming up on rent the movie, so we're sort of, you know, in in the spirit of things in that way. And it's very fun. And then also on the podcasting tip. I will be a special guest on Mark and Sarah talk about songs, we are recording very soon to I don't know how much you wanna talk about what's we're gonna be talking about. But we're dealing me. You'll be with us for a couple of episodes here at pitching in on a cranberries listener. Your your truest lane that you dominate, of course, is the Oscars episode. We are doing a a star is born Oscar-nominated song visas. Dog, avi? Barbara going to get actually not that ugly. It's gonna be fun. I'm exempt. I am. All right. Sorry. What do you have? Football. Obviously, I'm here to talk about QB one beyond the lights season two which I think actually came out last year. But because it was like at a show on an app, which like I I had the app, but you just don't like it's not an app that you use for anything else. So I kind of had it on my list to watch it because I really liked the first season. And I did review it on previously dot TV now both seasons are on. Netflix ex. And as ever if you liked Friday night lights and door last chance, you you will like this show. It follows three quarterbacks each year. Most of whom have already promised division one football programs that they are going to go there. And then they're sort of ups and downs as the season continues at the kids are more uniformly likable this year by which I mean, none of them is Tate Martell, sorry, buddy. But you are. Doc, the real star of the show. I think in season two is the coach of the hapless, but rebuilding oceanside collegiate land sharks? Their their mascot is also amazing. This is very enthusiastic dancer whose costume decide. Appear to have a dorsal fin. Free the land shark, anyway, the coach is named Chad something which on this show is not helpful because people there are so many fucking shit. It is a show about football. Literal and figurative CHAD'S everywhere Chad is trying to haul this program back from an Owen eight showing in the previous season that had featured a handful of ads beatings that. Probably should have been mercy rule. Anti is imported Sam Hartman from one state over to help him turn things around. Chad is yell the way all football coaches are but he also has a subtle snark to him that I found enjoyable occasionally. He would ask plaintively from the sidelines in practice. If wide receivers wanted to try making the catch instead just for change of pace. So season. Two was good, Dan. And I got sucked right into it. But it felt more elliptical and impressionistic than the first season. And not necessarily in a good way. The effect of the injuries on the commitments to the schools isn't really discussed the subject of concussions and concussion protocol is studiously avoided in my opinion, which I find weird especially like this high school is her high school players like that needs to be a part of the story. It's a little unclear but if the quarterbacks has actually a pretty terrible season. And heads to. His school in mid year. And I can deduce why. But it like give us a Chiron like tell us tell us he graduated early. Like, I just sort of didn't understand what like where he was in the journey except for the fact that we were in the season finale. And there seems to be a not entirely workable walled off quality to mentions of the QB's from the previous season. Like two out of three of the guys that we see this year have signed with schools where a previous quarterback from this show is already in scottsd- like what? And then one of the left to take the place of the third one. I mean, it's I should have brought a whiteboard. Sorry. I mean, it's still a good slice of life show. The episodes are like thirty three ish minutes long each and they kind of roll right into each other and cumulative cumulatively, you really get a sense of the pressure that these young men are under and have been under since they were like nine in some cases album or a reason to pay NCWA athletes. I am not a crackpot. But I hope that if there is a season three they push a little harder on some of the. The. Problematic aspects of football, especially as played by young people by which I mean, all of them. For my plug. This isn't really a plug. But professor Bundy begins her college instructional career as you're listening to this tomorrow. The projected high for my first. S at Tisch is fourteen with which he'll factor too. So my section is full. But I'm not actually sure anyone's gonna show up. So if you're near NYU, and you just want to hop in and keep warm and watch some family sitcoms and listen to me talk about them and swear a lot. I am teaching a class at NYU's school of dramatic writing. I am pretty excited about it. And I encourage people to call me professor Bundy as a joke. Oh for real forever. All right. The last little chunk of unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt as aired or landed rather on net flicks. I was sort of like, okay? It's over it's done. There was no, standout episodes. I fell in like compared to standard episodes in previous seasons. The stolen my favorite episodes beyond. Of course. The Dionne Warwick episode, which is in the canon. Thanks to Joe. Yes is now that's what we call music knockoff episode, which still is one of my favorite memories of this show. It feels like this show sort of had to had run its course as as the seasons went on became less, unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and more fantastic lists, you know, Titus show, which I think is a slow, but correct adjustment Titus is such a fantastic character. And I think the writers had a lot of fun writing him, obviously. And they kind of ran out of things to do with Kimmy, and the initial premise of the show, you know, that she was taken. And now, she is a fish out of water in society. I found the ending very, Pat, which I wasn't expecting from this show sorta how can these life is resolved. It starts really strong. I like the will first starts with that living single parody Housley gasp. I'll get that was. And then there's a Venga boys joke in that episode that made me laugh so hard that like I was I it was so unexpected. But it's like that's the kind of thing that the show at its best can do if you're there was also the good thing about Jacqueline and. Lillian, and I can't remember Amy sedaris his character nal become like gross ladies in the wave like Grossman are and you're like in this sort of like reverse me in a way that is just like, I don't know if I like with this is going, but then they all gather at like bed bath and beyond and lake split skis on these young guys. And it was like, okay. This is they did manage to make it funny. So I thought the first half of this season was kind of a trend up from where it had been the last few before that I felt they had finally figured out that like, oh, right? Put Jacqueline with all the other characters instead of on these weird Washington. Redskins excursion quests. Yeah. Yeah. But I think you're right about Titus. I think and about Kimmy, and it's weird that they weren't able to find more possibilities to to take that can be character. Because it still feels like there was a lot of totally left on that bone in terms of like wait things they could have done with her. They just sort of never did. It's a show I will always feel fund Lee towards, but I never think about it. When I think of like, what are the great. Yeah. Comedies that. I've loved I never think about it that way, but I always found of it. So I'll say this about the last little dribble of the show is if the tradeoff for having that one standalone episode that was all about the DJ career of Richard Wayne, Gary Wayne in the first half was that all we get of that character in the back off in her alert, his voice, bad trade. I I'm that was the one character that I was most disappointed. She didn't get to have more closure with officer. That was going to be a coda at the at the end of the. Yeah. Of the series. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my preference is always for more ham. Butt. I thought I didn't think the ending was Pat. I thought it was sweet it worked on me. But I'm more of a sap probably part of the problem. I think is Netflix. Splitting season. It doesn't really work on. Netflix does when you're consuming something at a time like instead of getting all twelve or whatever episodes we usually get into season. You know, we got half-and-half something of a benching half a season on Netflix that it just feels weird truncated and sort of start stop that. I wasn't really expecting. But I was like, okay. Yes. Start like you're so used to spending like a full day if you if you're really dedicated or like a whole weekend, but can be Smit. And but this done at after noon, we're like, okay? Well, I also had the fought as I was watching. I was like I don't know if I've done a last season with net flicks yet, and it's very weird to have a last bunch of episodes drop at the same time where it's like 'cause we're so used to the way that shows end, which is, you know, build up some sort of rhetoric. Effective time. We all sort of have our moment to to see where we think things are going. I'm but is that like week between the penultimate episode of the episode last episode where we wonder how they're going to end it off. Joe you're forgetting about has cards your favorite show. We'll but that wait did that actually end. Yeah. It stopped watching that. So long ago, I didn't know whether we had one more Robin rights season left on us or not now that that was the season that that would bet just dropped in the folk. But yes, it's about time. We've had last season that people want to watch. Yes. It's about to happen. Again, with orange is the new black us this year to it's just an odd experience where it's like, it doesn't feel like there's any occasion to it or any build up. Yeah. I don't know how they fix that. I don't know what they would do differently. Well, yeah. Because he got to crowds. You got the race to the end. I one out of the gate, but then you have like everybody else and never ending at a different time. It just does is sort of like the inverse of the the he'll starting everybody's out of the gate, and you hear buzz, but it's sort of like doesn't really work unless you do like the downton abbey like Christmas special, you know, finale movie thing where you get it up to almost the end. And then you wait a few months, and then it's a they did that with sense eight actually that would be a smart model since eight ended really really satisfying leeann that way. So maybe that is you know for my plug. I just want to say go to extra hot gray, click on the guests tab recently spent some time shoring of it up, and I was quite pleased with the results as all say extra how great dot com. And then check out our guest list. This extra credit topic comes to us from Dan casino. I have titled at technical awards. Dave you have to add something to that form. So people could give their things their own title. Because I I'm not always great at coming up with them. See this week as example. But anyway, the excellent topic by name aside is a fact that show is technically adept doesn't mean it'll be for everyone, especially when there are so many good shows on the air Dan casino. So true Dan asks what show de recognize as good, but just can't get into this will come as no saga. I this will come into. It's no surprise to anyone who's listened to the show for any period of time. But it is game of thrones. I I recognize it is extremely well. Made people who are fanatical about the source material love it or have loved it. Maybe they've fallen off in more recent years don't know don't care because that kind of fantasy stuff is not for me more for you. And I bless you with it. Joe? I almost the Americans because that was sort of the show that I had fallen off with early that people really that wrong or, but I don't I don't feel like the I can't really say the Americans like isn't a show for me. Because in many ways, it is just sort of was kind of a victim of circumstance with me. I went with better call Saul because that is a show a never really started with in part because by the time it showed up. I was I I guess I was burnt out on breaking bad, which isn't to say I didn't like breaking bad by the end. But I was once that show ended. I was like, okay, I need by need a break. I need some time off of this. And that better call Saul happened so quickly. I was just like, you know, what I'm not gonna. And then I believe everybody who you know, with all the good things they say about it. The little bits that I've seen of the show if I like watching up Assode for you know. Purposes here there to review or to talk about it on a podcast, or whatever I've liked what I've seen I sort of root for it. Even when it's like nominated for Emmys, I you know, I want reassume horn to be more of the thing. I think she's wonderful. I just had to sort of triage and make a make a decision and better call solid ended up on the other side of the of the canal for may a sort of how we're going to have to be maybe one day. I will go back and revisit it sounds like when you go to your like you discover a restaurant you're like, oh my God the food here. So good. Then you go like way too many times and a two week period. No, my taste buds. I've ruined them for I've done it. Sarah. I'm gonna go with superstore. I hated that shit onsite when it premiered three years ago, but it was a pilot people whose opinions I trust and respect really liked the show and said things about it that made me think I may be would like this sitcom, so I gave it another shot. I no longer would cross the street kick it in the Shans. This is not a John that I enjoy on its own merits, usually based like I see where people are coming from. I see that. It's well built like if I sort of turn it over and look at the back. I like yes, this tapestry shows in professional level of craftsmanship. But I don't have time for it. So sorry superstore, you're no longer the, you know, super shady, but you're just store to me. Sorry. Ben Feldman is so hot. No. I agree with you. Oh, Ben Feldman. His. Bye bye. I tried again. I'm not gonna lie. It's on my list for when it comes on and syndication somewhere that I will pick it up. Mom style. You'll mom Mike favorite sick on network. TV? Sorry shows. Okay. Finish up mine is stranger things. And this is a show that I've really kind of felt like on paper. It was something that I would wanna watch as we said when it first came out. I recognize that it is well crafted perhaps to well-crafted in the sense that I felt like it's a stall jer angle was grown in lab and was sort of hit over the head with his use of nostalgia and whole Magyari, which is a word. I just made up on a hope it catches on. I just couldn't get into it and much like Tara and game of thrones. Like after I decided, I just can't it's not quite for me. You know, it wasn't doing it enough to stick with it flips a switch in your brain. Which is well now, I'm never going to watch because everybody else likes it so much buck you universe. I guess. That'll show him. But you know, what I kind of feel like is always in the background like, you know, when Tara slips and falls on ice again in the hospital for three months like, maybe I'll watch it. Then that's the kind of sounds like you're making a plan. Dave, no also related to that. Do not revisit goonies as an adult. It's so old up. Right now, don't do it. You can thank me on your death. But I had a question for you. Dave. Yes. Which are you more likely to try to return to min your life, go on stranger things or the man in the high castle? Oh stranger things because I think the man it'll hike hassle just sorta like Gus super boring. Yeah. They're both high concept shows the men in the high castle the short story is very interesting. The start of men high castle, the TV show was very interesting. Just because of the the visuals they set up and yell know you were introduced world. So was like all the world building introduction stuff that is sort of for me like when that sort of stuff is also old history, you know, alternative history. Like that is Dave nip I really love that stuff. But like after episode three and like oh by God. This show is incredibly boring. It's so slow whereas stranger things in order to rewatch it. I would just have. To get in the mindset like, okay, David Cole. You are a child of the eighties. You've lived through this period. You know, like all the millennials that love this show like the eighties might as well be the eighteen eighty. It's right. Like, this is all just sort of like curated pop culture eighties. Nece that is fun to watch in the same way that, you know, back to the future was fun to watch for me at the time all the fifty shit that I felt like that that has to be extremely accurate in Brian's. Not at all, not even. So I feel like if I could just get in the mindset just to flip that switch turn that little bit off. That says stop judging it on how many factored its planned to stall JR. Is that I could probably watch that one. I just don't really feel the need to make that happen anytime soon and till two you mobile mobile mobile, can I say about the man in the high castle though that is a show where if they had kicked that casting level up from like seal list to be list. I would have been all over that show. Yeah. I was just so underwhelmed by the level of casting where it was just like, oh, like, I don't know. I I it feels shallow you that just say at. I'm mean. Yeah. Like, yeah. I don't know. I just a higher class of actor. And I am all over that. I thought you're about to say a higher class of Nazi like, okay. Dave. I'm always looking for a higher class of Hyler class. We'll be right back out to these messages. It's time for the cannon. Joe Reid is presenting this week take it away. Joe? All right. Thank you. So this time for the Kaman. I wanted to pick a show that hadn't been done before on Xtra Huck hungry and brings I wanted to bring a the very best episode of something to the table. And since year end best of lists were still prominently on my mind. I went with FX is pos-. I picked the season finale episode mother of the year the first season finale, not only because I think that episode is indicative of what the show does best. But also because it exemplifies how the show had come a very long way over the course of its debut season. The episode takes its title. Seriously, mother of the year is not just award that Blanca wins at the end. It is a structural blueprint for the hour where block essentially goes from character to character, offering help concern advice or encouragement to vary. Various characters on the show, the idea of ball culture and house culture in the in the nineteen eighties in New York City in Harlem and uptown, the idea that these houses would create chosen family is for their sort of way word residents could start to sound quaint or cliche, if it's repeated enough, but I think this episode really shows that there is family happening in these houses, particularly in the house of vans Lista, so we start with Blancas archrival Electra who at this point in the season has been brought low she's abandoned by her house of abundance. She's tossed out by her sugar. Daddy boyfriend, Chris Maloney after he disapproved of her giving gender affirmation surgery. And by the time blocked. It comes across her at the beginning of this up. Assode electric is stripping at a p show. She's taking disco naps on the table tops of diners in. It's all very sort of sad while their relationship, Electra and Blanca. Is still formidable. I'm sorry. It's still tense electric. Pry is still fermentable, and she is resistant at first to Blanca, offering a hand a helping hand ultimately Bachus able to convince her though, and she brings her back home to live as a guest, which is funny little situation. She puts out Damon and Ricky the the dancing boyfriends who definitely bristle at electric sort of haughty demands, she comes. She wants a fresh coat of winter lilac paint in the bedroom. Because that's what she wants. And as she's sort of usurping the room they, but they at this point might be out of the house anyway, pretty soon because they are both successful at additioning to dance on the album. Sure toward the summer more on this in a moment. It definitely pays off. Block. Then pays a visit to pray towel. My neighbor. I'm pretty sure I know the house where they film the scenes at pray tells house, which I'm pretty sure it's like right around the corner from way live, which is I'm pretty sure the house next door to the Royal tannenbaums house. So in my mind in in cannon in my head cannon Pretel, and the tannenbaums our neighbors, which is pretty cool. Prato this point his life in his own words has become a wash of gray since his partner recently died, and he got his HIV diagnosis Blanco wants to set him up on a date with this handsome, man, that she caught eying Pretell at the club recently pose when it debuted was a very important show for LGBTQ visibility especially for queer and trans people of color, but as the season went on what impressed to me was it became ever, more exponentially lovable and just sort of like a show that you can really just kind of sync into and enjoy the characters a lot of the credit for that goes to seems like this one where MG MG Rodriguez and Billy porter make blanket and pray tells friendship feel very lived in just this first bit of dialogue with Blunkett twisting praise arm, communicates, such an easy and fun and watchable chemistry. Think you should call. No, this shop is closed Honey out of business, and I don't have any plans to open ended up anytime soon. Do not need a man to make me happy, especially don't need to be my shine by getting rejected for being positive. Heartening to rest, but you should have seen the way he was looking at you. And he was phone line. You may be positive, but I know that Helen's out of you is Thursday, and for some fine ass trade that is reformed ho to you. Thank you very much. Okay. So mother Blanca, then pays a visit to Damon's dance teacher at the Alvin Ailey school where she gets the great news that his scholarship has been extended for year, all in all some really great reviews for blonde 'cause mothering she then excuse me takes electric out on a job interview to be a hostess at the restaurant industry in which we later. Find out was a successful interview. When Elektra in all her imperious glory is there to seat pray towel in his day. Tuesday, was keenum. Pray does the hard thing on this date. Intel's keen in the truth about his HIV diagnosis. Upfront Keenan is compassionate and accepting. And it's a fairly idealized response from him. But I would say after what we have seen. Pray go through this season already. I will accept some idealized. Good news for for for him for a change. Next is blanket in angel Angelus still reeling from her break-up withstand the. Evan Peters character block decides. This is the moment she's going to tell angel that she has also tested HIV positive which partially seems like an effort to get angel sort of snapped back into reality since angel now knows she's going to have to take over as mother of the house one day clip, number two. Tested, positive. Should take this house. Not so. Of that. You would think. She going to be a mother took all these children and many more. And no by boy from the suburbs. Ask you. We'd only once we got into this panic. Later, excuse me later at family dinner with special guest Electra playing the hothouse flower at the table Damon and Ricky give block of the good news that they got the gig dancing on the L be sure tour at which point electric delivers my favorite moment of the episode. And maybe the season reacting to the mere mention of Albi shore the way that Lucille blue really reacts to an appearance by gene parmesan. Wow. We auditioned for I'll be sure next video. I love how be sure holy shit. He's the Marvin Gaye about time. Dick amendment left him at least twice a week. Oh, nothing on. No, one is a panty dropper like be shoe. Day. What am I is that a real person? Oh, so very real one of the things about posing the casting of the show, especially is that in casting sort of rigorously for trans actors and actresses plaguing trans roles at the the fantasy of that that the show gets. There's a there was especially in the early part of the season. Sometimes a little bit of a trade off in terms of experience in technique and letting the the the acting sort of shine through I think the kind of clipped delivery that electro would sometimes give sometimes would feel a little bit awkward over the season. I think it's all worth it for the way that she says panty dropper in that moment right there. It is. It's so much so much of the shows sort of comes together MS episode. I really love it. So while block it is not thrilled about Damon skipping out on a second year of dance school to go out on tour, especially go out on tour with his boy. I friend. She says she won't stop him. She's not that kind of mother later on in the episode Damon ends up telling her that he is in fact, going to let Ricky go out on tour and he's gonna stick around and he's gonna do his second year of of dance school. So everything sort of works out there, we then get the obligatory scene with the white folks in which Kate Meyers, Patty Gibbs Evan Peters. Stan sort of the lay the land about how their post separation life is going to look, including her taking college classes in him giving up his big banking jobs. So he can spend more time with the kids. I am reminded at this point of my hope that FX and Ryan Murphy at some point realize that the show is strong enough to stand without these token, white people standing in as this like attempt at a mainstream audience surrogate, we don't need it. Honestly, we good like, we're real good. Patty, got her one great scene in. I think it was the episode directly before this one where she angel sort of have their little moment face off. And I thought that was really good. But we had it and it's good. And maybe we can leave it all at that. So we'll see for season two. The remainder of this episode is dedicated to the much-hyped Princess ball where the house Evangelista challenges the even newer house of ferocity, which was assembled by Electra's outcasts, candy and Lulu and is a rather mean little ragtag bunch of queens to quote, another of my favorite podcasts. Less countries. Desks while podcasts are famously a visual medium. I cannot do Justice to the performance visuals of what goes down us while it is too bad. Because there is it is by far the show's best depiction of a full sleigh drag ball. It is quite something to behold from beginning to end candy Lulu show, try to bully Blanca with their shade. But Elektra steps in and reads, the full house down on candy and Lulu and any other member of ferocity crosses her. She even manages to liberate poor outcast cubby and Lamar and low poppy Evangelista all of whom return to Blancas warming embrace, and then it's the evangelist. Versus ferocity walk off challenge. And oh my God. It is so good. The home extended walk off is on YouTube. Do yourself a favor. Go and watch it all of it. It's so good. Billy Porter's MC work is season. Best stuff every single member of the cast is performing darling. It is like full on amazing. Even though you can't get visuals. I just wanted to clip this little bit just to get a taste of what Billy porter is doing on commentary. Belong. Was. That lasts a little bit where it's impose 'em hose. And everybody in the room seeing it, and everyone is just sort of in this mass at the middle of the room. It really felt like almost like a cast party at felt like this was the last scene of the season that they filmed and everybody got together in this. You know, they're saying the name of the show that they're on. It felt like a real celebration of what a victory this season of TV was I full on. I scream I yell. I cry every time I watch us. It's so good. And then after that whole like insane show, but it's a whole mess nonsense with candy ferocity trying to vogue, which is hilarious. She fails miserably pray tell sort of like read her down. And then candy nearly starts a fight with attack hammer where she sort of skidders onto the the middle of the runway back with her tack hammer in the most giftable moment I've ever seen where it looks like she's just sort of like on rails as she. It's it's amazing. And then we get a scene where STAN tries unsuccessfully to win Angell back outside. She is she stands up for herself in a really good moment. And I think it feels that also feels like there's plausible finality to that. So again cross our fingers. We don't have to see them anymore. And then we get the moment back inside where Blanca wins the trophy for mother of the year a moment that I will say rivals Buffy winning class protector at the prom in terms of well earned sentiment in this kind of setting. So that's clip number five. The recipient has taught us that a half is much more than a home, it Spanish, and every family the mother who has a Furling, caring. Lawyer and inspire. This woman is much much much more. She has saved many soul lost in dock nece, simply by shining her life. I know this to be true. Because that if how she saved. The nineteen eighty for mother up of you. Goes to my fifth. Blunk? The drama the tears the acting. I don't know a better person. I don't deserve a better person. It is all of it. It's so good Billy Puerto should get twelve. That means. It's all fantastic. Thank you for indulging me. I know this presentation was pretty long. It's an episode that does mean a lot to me. And I think it is the perfect encapsulation of what makes pose such a vital and important and deeply deeply lovable television show. So now, I will hand it over to you. This is an excellent presentation. I told you in an Email that I had been had it in the back of my mind that I should do the series premiere of pos-. So now, I still can't because you did this. But you'll just go through. The the main threads I agree with you, particularly about the the acting the caliber of acting from some of the performers. We're seeing especially when they have to act opposite. Billy porter like they are not. It earlier in the season more so than at the end you release yet. But Dominique Jackson has is the one that I think has come the longest way and her her in that opening montage of Elektra, you know, brought low because of the decisions that she made to be herself. Like, she's just so heartbreaking without saying a word. She's great seeing her walk down the street with with Blanca going to the job interview like nine feet tall. And she's. She's like, she's just such a she strikes such a gorgeous figure and. You're right that I had to pause after the album Shir freak out tried to impress upon. Dave. Like, this is so out of character. Like, nothing we had seen her do the entire rest of the whole season would have prepared us for that. What? Like, she she. She's nails it associated with great. This not enough beautiful angel in this episode. I agree with you about standard. Mrs STAN fuck off forever. I they could have lost that scene between them. No, one cares would have been enough for him to just show up. And and at the ball as he was going to rescue her and get the kiss off like that would have been fine. No one gives a fuck about Patty get the fuck outta here. But yeah, I think it's a it's a beautiful showcase for Blanca. Obviously, you know, it's mother of the year. This is her episode. And like all of the beats of where she goes. And over the course of her day the scene between her and Helena at the dance school. I thought was especially nice. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought two things one was that the this was one of the episodes. I put on my top ten of the year for the slate TV club, and one of the other critics, I think it was sunny Seraya said that she liked pose. But didn't love it because she felt like, you know, the characters got off too easy. Sometimes. It was like the portrayal of them was so saintly, and my I get that new sorta hinted at that and your presentation to that like, it's an I, you know, the the moment between Keene and impre tells it's like an idealized version of how that conversation would go, but you'll it because he needs it. And I feel like that about the whole show like when we're in it when we're in a TV climate where there are more than one show about people written and created by trans people like do whatever you want. Tell you tell your story like, I don't even count transparent gills, always not trans. You're not character was whatever now played by chance worsen her lead. You know, if this is your this is your time, and you wanted this is the story you wanna tell fucking talent. It's not my place to say, the you know, it needs to be more gritty. There was plenty gritty for me. I thought. This this season. I I don't think anyone got off easy. But this was just a it was a lovely valedictory for for the end, and I also loved we heard it in in the in your first clip of a blonde guy. And and pray tell that the the language that kept coming up about how no one wanted to dim their shine. It was all about, you know, and I thought that's such a great way to close things off. And it's such an evocative way to describe what these characters are trying to do in the world that you know, in a lot of cases doesn't want them to be there, and they don't care and they're not going to dim their shine. And it's lovely. This is a great presentation. Thank you. Joe? Thank you there. This was a great presentation. I had not gotten around to watching the show and. I did not need this to be any grittier. I think that just the reality in which characters are dwelling in terms of their time line, and their diagnoses is plenty of grit. Thanks for your help. Ronald Reagan just burnin hell the opening montage particularly was just suffused with exhaustion and was devastating. However. M j Rodriguez is not up to the task. I feel of of Blanca and it just like the the line readings. They may have improved, and I don't know. But I just felt. I just felt taken out of certain scenes emotionally by a say meanness of the line ratings, and the writing is also not necessarily helping. And other performers. There were a handful of reeds that felt not like just not good enough. Like, I just wanted them to be better. I wanted lines to be jumped I wanted it to be a little less. I mean, I know the point of it is a certain stage. But this was not this was not like a staging germane to the John Reya. There there were like a couple of clunky. Like the the scene with the dance teacher. I felt like is this Omar to equally. Sort of plant your feet and deliver scenes in fame the TV show because if so I'm I'm here for that. If not it just felt distracting -ly. Pat, I don't know. But I have not been on the journey with these characters. So I think there is context that I lack that I wanted to I wanted to try to grade on a curve for that. But unfortunately, like I wanted to I've wanted to love it and just liked it. I mean, Billy porter is a national treasure and. You know could have been in every scene, and I would have been fine with that. But the rest of it felt just not quite booked to me. And I don't know if watching the whole season up to this point would have changed my opinion on that. But I'm sort of at like it a not love it. Also, loved the presentation, but the actual episode. Not sure it's quite there. Dave Cole is some stupid questions probably going to ask him anyways. So so how's culture, right? And the idea of a mother sort of at the at the head of a house, this tastes care of people that perform at all is that where did that start? Let me ask that question like location wise, but like culture wise that like Chelsea thing is this Harlem thing, this is a Harlem in the Bronx kind of. Okay. It's definitely like uptown got it. Okay. So given that context that you know, we're talking about minority of a minority. You know, where this culture is coming up the Evan Peter storyline. Like even just watching this one episode just kind of being in the room while taro's watching the rest of the season. You could just tell that that was just a network. No that they couldn't get around. You know like there needed to be? And there it really feels that way. Really does. A feel. So so side dish easy to the rest of an unnecessary. We have this white guy who lives out in the sticks jersey or something or at least, you know, barrels and he comes to town once in a while to see who is angel angel. Yeah. Seeing angel and he should be there as a catalyst for something in angel's life. His story line is his storyline. And that's the way they present. This episode doesn't even have James vanderbeek in which is like already make like, I don't mind James vanderbeek. But like the fact that they fleshed out that part of the story so much that like there were other than there were there were like conflicts between the two of them about business like Ryan dot care. I did see that episode as well. And you are totally right. It was like what is this show in a show that doesn't easy cut? I think the show is instructional celebration. Right. It is for some a glimpse into this culture that they've never seen before me. But also, a celebration of that culture and sort of like. Being in a Russian doll of terrible circumstances, both era socioeconomic and everything that's going against him in nineteen eighty eight. I was really super interested in the concept and the mechanics and politics of a house household, and how that works in how they. Same some seemed to be collegiate and some seemed to be more of a family like some seem to be built to win some seem to be dealt Araya to take care of people like a group living. I thought that was very interesting. Also, just the actual club scene competitions and pray. Tell is like one of my new favorite characters on television to soak it. Hi am. I said to Tarez felt LL cool J. But like, even what do I know him from anything else? He's mostly a Broadway guy wanna Tony award for kinky boots on Broadway. I think his projection on Broadway really pays off as the the ball. Like the his that was like commanding. There are a little parts in that where it when when they're doing performances where he'll just be like, you know, he'll call out little aspects of what they're doing like when they're dancing, and he'll just be like, no touching when they're plus they're sort of like dance fighting, but they're not supposed to make contact. And and when they'll call out like candy for getting her sort of like, asks injections, or whatever and she got the body, and that was good, but you can't dance and that kind of thing there's an order to it. There's a structure that actually. I feel like it's almost an this talk about other worlds. I know nothing about, but it's almost like when you get a sports color commentary guy who both knows how to talk, but it's also played the game long enough that he knows all the stupid little shit that just the talking head guys don't feel like you get the best of both worlds. I feel like that's the case here where you're getting somebody a character. That knows how to command a scene but also been in the game. You were talking about something you mentioned disco naps right at the start. If you think is that the is that an actual people. Call those disco naps where you go into a diner or something have little snooze. Yeah. Because I live near this coffee shop here in Austin and between the hours of three AM and say six AM, which sometimes I ended up there. I can't sleep boy disco nap in like they'll be like. People disco Napa. Yeah. Having a disco nap. There's one guy there that has a disco PlayStation, nap, which is brings a TV has PlayStation four sometimes plays it and I've seen him fall asleep as he's playing video game at then like wakes up ten minutes later in like just continues, very was is kind of watch. This was great. I really enjoyed. It makes me wanna go back and watch the whole series. I felt the characters were fantastic. And I thought it was a revelation on all fronts, plus just lose the white, dude. I think we got a better show. We gotta show here. Evergreen. Let's put it to vote tar area thirty Bundy nee. Sorry. Good presentation. But doesn't need my help. I don't think I gotta say, yes. So. Season. One episode eight mother of the year, you are hereby inducted into the extra high. Craig Gannon amp does and pose Ampofo's. I'm Erica Lovell winner. And we'll not tolerate a little. No, it's time for a winner. And loser of the week, sir has our winter. The loser may be my pronunciation of this last name does anyone else. Who's looking at the document have any suggestions or still just take a run at it? My best guess would be Hans Hance. Trek Hamsah track. Maybe I'd go with hand Zach. But it sounds disgusting. Hacky sack. Yeah. I say MacKenzie she plays teen Kate on. This is us a chew selling girl scout cookies at the sag awards as a girl scout sales woman America, you'll you gotta do whatever it takes head. I hope you filled up that she'd okay lose weight. Well, we all know by now Terry crews has made allegations of sexual assault against a former agent at the William Morris agency named Adam venit for some reason D L Hughley decided to go on something called lad DV. I assume it's a podcast of some sort and basically imply that Terry crews didn't do enough to prevent this from happening. So Terry crews got a call them out on Twitter to say like, you know, you said I should have pushed him away. I should've told them to stop whatever I did all of those things. What were you are you suggesting that I wanted to be sexually assaulted and Dl Hughley for some reason responded that none of what you're describing is the same as slapping the shit out of him. And Terry crews was like, okay. Well, I don't want this to happen either. So should I slap the shit out of you? D L Hughley has not responded. So obviously the answer to violence is not more violence. But if DL yooglie isn't gonna shut the fuck up, then maybe you have no option. So do you usually none of that? I can guarantee everybody that like good now. Jesus speaking about how do you know how it is? Die. All right, everybody. This is the second game time of this season seasons. Scores. Tara one everybody else zero today, we are playing schools in from Madame Zell. Caroline from France who earns herself and extra credit redeemable for an extra hot great midday topic of her choosing. Okay. Caroline who? We've just discovered is schoolteacher has constructed a school related quiz. Decathlon that'll test your knowledge TV schools, and TV educators, we have six rounds and each has their own format. So explain each as we reach that point in the exam. Tara steel mill situation, please, okay. Sarah has three I have three. Valued guest has won. All right. Well, towed picky. See us going. I. We will start with valued guest. Oh, okay. So Joe is going first, then we'll go, Sarah. Then Tara are we ready to play schools in? Yes. All right here. We go Joe round one the best teachers the best teachers are video question. You give me the teacher and the show ready one point. Okay. This teacher was on T G, I F show in the ninety s for some eerie reason his career path followed the main characters academic career throughout the series. He began by being a sixth grade teacher, then became the principal the boys high school, and then finally they meet again at college where he somehow becomes a professor that's commitment. Who's that who's educator? What's that show? I'm pretty sure this is Mr Fini on boy meets world are correct must good for appoint. To Sarah in the nineteen seventies on ABC. You couldn't find a better teacher than as New York high school teacher, plus excellent afro. That is true. That is to cocktail on. Welcome back kotter. Correct tara. Yes. In the eighties on ABC. If you're a gifted student on an honor program, this substitute teacher became your fulltime history teacher, although unconventional in his methods. He was just what was needed. It's head of the class. But I can't remember his name. The Howard has been guy. You are correct. That's charlie. More from the head of the class stuff question. Mr fever. All right, Joe. Your second question of round one on this streaming platform this middle school science teacher is excellent. He helps his nerdy students cod scientific experiments which in turn help them deal with their supernatural problems. Oh god. Streaming platform middle school science teacher. Students experiments which help them with their supernatural problems. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the name of the teacher is. Stranger things. I would imagine things is the show. Scott clark. It's got closure. All right back to Sarah. Your second question on this nineteen seventies NBC drama, the village schoolteacher is worshipped by her students except for the very badly behaved one she will encourage the main character to get an education, even if it's not so easy or a girl in pioneer days. Fuck was her name. It's little house on the prairie spirit of Kim wash. Over me. This beetle. Oh. Round one for Tara. Yep. There is no better high school football coach than this one on NBC is inspirational support of by can also kick your butt if hit needs kickin. That's coach Taylor. Friday night lights is all right quickly scores. All right. Very close game. Joe? And I are tied with one point each Sarah venting has to our round to the worst teachers the worst. Joe in this series from FOX this high school coach berates her own students, and is ready to do anything to undermine the students offer colleague and arch enemy. This would be Susa faster on glee. Sara this AMC series. Science teacher went from a man who teaches teens to one who watches over them watches them overdose and die without so much. As a hint of remorse. Oh, well, there was maybe a hint. Walter white on breaking bet. You are. Correct. Tara. On this long standing series on FOX this chain. Smoking fourth grade teacher is far more interested in finding a romantic partner than her youngsters futures. Although with students like the main character one may understand that MRs CRE bobble on this. I've been calling her grab apple. Back to Joe for all say oh. But this high school teacher on a recent ABC family free form nights. Soap is the worst. He makes out with a six year old student before he's aware of her age. But then continues a relationship once the situation is revealed shit my sister, and I were just talking about this way, it's pretty little liars. And it's as raw something that's good enough for me as to Joe. All right. Sara. On this standing comedy central show, this primary schoolteacher is way way way too attached to his puppet and uses it to teach very very inappropriate things. So the four main characters who attend his class. I have no idea so much steel mill this because I don't know what that is. All right. That's Mr. garrison on south. Oh. I got thrown by the puppet thing. I thought it was a whole puppet show. Okay. On this recent NBC's sitcom, this college teacher teaches Spanish, although he really doesn't speak the language. It will then have to attend said college as a resentful student. No, it's community. And it's Ken, John. But I don't remember his baby. Anyone? No, it's not coming to me. Senior Chang from Jay. All right. That's round two scores. Police. Well, it only got closer new. We're all tied up each mois. All right row. Three guys. A student report cards as students all right? On this recently cancelled Machi, mentally this is for Joe. These two students have displayed the kind of qualities one hopes to find in students and appreciation for research all through and a clear sense of ethics all of which help them navigate the various disgusting the stories taking place at their school. I just need this show for the point. Sorry. Could you give that to me? One more time recently canceled Machi, mentally these two students have displayed the kind of qualities one hopes to find incidents, a an appreciation of research be followed through and see a clear sense of ethics all of these qualities helped them navigate the various disgusting mysteries taking place at their school. What's that show? If you want to show off, what are those names? This is not coming to me at all. I feel like it's something that I should know. Probably should. I don't know. If you watch this mockumentary. Yes. Ethics. Children. Television. I dunno steal meal. Yeah. American vandal. Oh, toy. I did watch it. Yeah. All right. Do you know the character's names Sam the other kid trama, Peter? Yeah. Okay. Sarah. Here's your actual question. This blue-eyed bookish straight A's girl student girl. Student was on WB CW series of the odds. After a rough beginning at our new prep school. She managed to turn enemies into friends and eventually became valedictorian of her class. Buffy? I don't actually know. Anybody? Yeah. I'll steal meal that that's Rory Gilmore of Gilmore girls. Uh-huh. All right. Tara last question around three. On this MTV off series, the most intelligent and deserving. Clone of French heroine is of course, Mukta by the boy, she loves because that's how it goes. That's Joan of arc. It is. All right. And that's a round three scores. Please. Dr. Still super close. Joe has three Sarah has for all right? Three four five who has three you said if. All right. This is my first Adam Dole's worth he of the rent party equalizer zone. Joe you have to answer three of these six mid nineties trivial pursuit questions correctly to get points. Okay. Here we go starting off with classics the glasses around the light is on. Here. We go. Got like what comedians characters included the mean Waddell kit sheriff dead, I and Clem it did upper it's cadiddlehopper highways. Thanks. She says with oh boy later holy shit. How old are you? Sarah. I have old parents. Let's leave it there a clarification this is not questions about the mid nineties. It is when the the from right, right, right? I have no idea. Fair. Reds guilt by. To be quick. Most embarrassing correction ever. What show did good times spin off from? Okay. Good times bun off. I'm pretty sure from odd. Correct. Drama what medical drama was ABC's? First serious atop the ratings for a full season in nineteen seventy seventy one. Medical series. Sorry. Can you say that one more time? Burst drama the top ratings for full season medical drama, seventy seventy one ABC. Marcus welby. Marcus Welby empty, right? Al I think that's fine. All right. So they need one more. You got three left. You only need one of them. Kids in games who was king. Leonardo's loyal skunk. That's it. It's no more. Yeah. Just heroes. No idea. Mr. Rogers question, Sarah. What is it? Could it'll have her extra high grades favourite octogenarian, Sarah says don't know OD colonie. I never heard that stars. Okay. Your answer is a celebrity star. What murder she wrote star got the urge to diet from seeing seeing home video of herself at her son's birthday party, the only murder she wrote star. I know of is Angela lansbury. So that's my only option. Just a giggles. Let's do the wild card. What was ABC's answer to sixty minutes. Twenty twenty twenty twenty I use correct? All right. So corrected scores pleased are all right. Well, now, Sarah has four points Joe. And I are tied with five each still berries Lopes. But those are eighteen sixty eight points. It's actually like eight point. More now around four f student report cards. All right. Here's our Chitty. Students round starting with Joe this Californian high school student on an NBC show of the late eighties early. Nineties is a disgrace. He lies all the time to his parents and teachers hardly ever attend class. And it usually spends his time into principal's office. This sounds like Zach more Sunday by the bell. Tara on this relatively recent NBC sitcom that doesn't take place in a school environment doesn't this little punk made an impression in two different episodes ruining Halloween by vandalizing parks, despite the best efforts of diligence city hall employees to stop him, those this shitty student what show only need the show for the point. Parks and rec nice S. Greg. Yeah. Okay. Tara. Yes. On this recent ABC sitcom. Yep. Beloved by one of the extra height. Great panel. The older kid is your typical lazy somewhat dimwitted boy who somehow got to go to college. Thanks to a football scholarship. Oh, this is axel of the middle. Yeah. Good thing. What person in fact as you? All right. That's right. All right. Well, Sarah's got five Joe. And I each have six. All right. So we got two rows left. This round is school theme. Song school theme song. Okay. Name the TV series, primarily taking place in a school. From this snippet of the theme Joe. Yes. Please pause slink dreamily into my seats here. An imagine a better younger time. That's my so called life. I was gonna say if you didn't get that one. You would. Your co hosts coming to your house. All right. So I feel like Joe got the one that maybe Sarah was destined for. So let's see how the inverse works. Sarah is yours. Hughes. I dunno steal mail still. Daria. Joe steel mail gets. All right. Fickle, mistress Tara. Yeah. Freaks geeks. Correct. All right back to Joe for your second theme. Shit. Shit. I using this tonight. Can I hear? Okay. Joe champ is the toughest one. It sounds. It's kind of hear it. One more time. Sure can. I am right on the cusp of at my can't get it. It's gonna kill me. I can't. Anybody? I'm not going to steal meal. But I have guess, okay. Is it Doug? No, it's not I was going to go. Parker. Lewis can't lose that is correct. Yeah. Jobs there. Okay. Sarah. Here's your theme. You could stop state thugs. Terrible. Jumpstart really is. Brutal. Well, twenty one St. was the answer. Tar. Here's our last theme of Rafeh. Stan. Tara probably knows. Myself in the mirror different world. Please. A different world. That was the most wonderful way to honor the late Queen of soul. All right. That is round five. So let's get the scores. All right. Sarah's got six points Joe. And I have eight points. All right, Sara that means if you can win gross challenge zone. Our game will be tied here we got classics. What boxing telecast featured announcer. Jimmy powers from nineteen forty nine to nineteen sixty you should get. What boxing telecasts what was the name of the show? We're it's okay. If you got this instant win. It is not the wide. We'll in America boxing night in America. But this is a great name the dilemma cavalcade of sports. That is good. Bye reds scout. Get data l- mic. Let. Sitcom. What salted to state character? Solid state. Character lived in a world where it was a legal to turn off a TV set. Sitcoms. Don't say b. Accent room. Dramas what was the longest continuously running cop series and TV history of this. Whenever this was as of that card as of this card. Card time tenuously running 'cause of series TV history in TV history. It's a matter. You don't like Bon ANSA. I dunno dragnet. How newly low of trying but that was five oh. All right. You've got one you need to of these last three. All right kids in games what? Character was added to assist Astro boy late in the show's run. Astro girl? That are asked Ruth dog. That's that would. But I would have said that was the coin flip for sir stars what Hollywood star played Vida Perron Queen Isabella and the duchess of Windsor in made for TV movies. Eva Perron, Queen Isabella and the duchess of Windsor all played. By this all day would starry would star. I mean well fuck at Olympia to have land. Man guessed the answer was fade done away. All right. You gotta get this. This is a wildcard category. I am going to say I think you're odds are pretty good talking. Boy, I dunno. I can give you a fifty chancellor's. Thanks for it depends. It depends on your knowledge of the source. But here we go. What nineteen thirty nine classic became the highest rated movie ever aired on TV in nineteen seventy six the what movie from thirty nine at the highest ratings ever when aired in seventy six it's documentary based on my life. Just getting I believe this has gone with the wind. We know they're tied up going into our fight. We got all eight points, each all your all. All right. So Jerry important and Brown sixes called listen to the teacher. Listen, you must guess the name of the teacher mentor from the cliff on the show. Are you ready? Oh, every go Joe read, right? So when big his samples back from the Tory, he made a startling discovery. What he believed to be Ignace was in fact, the venture it. Fraught fraudulent Ross Geller friends. You are correct right shows got the point can't Sarah, get the point. I leave my first class at arrived for real this time. I knew I had to make strong impression. I had thought of everything except wait. Just professor wanted it for two. Professor. Sir. That's going to be you tomorrow. I mean. It has one f and I'm getting the other f for not knowing this. But I don't know that is. That is still it. Ted Moesby from high met your mother. Now, I am. Meal. I was out of steel mills I knew it. But I was out of steel mills. Dammit, other guests we got Joe and Tara tied with Sarah one behind and it is tyrez. Clip. Here we go. Trail thus today. Good God in heaven. There are just so very many ways for me to say this to you never not a million years. Absolutely. Not no way. Jose no chance. Lance yet Negga, Tori. And of course, my own personal favorite of all time man falling off the cliff. All right. Who's that educator? That's Dr Cox, Dr KATs scrubs. Correct. All right. So we've got tar in the lead one behind Joe one behind Joe, Sarah, correct? Correct. Count. All right, Joe. I don't need a character name. Okay. We'll go through the clip. You just have to explain to it is. All right. Okay. Grow here. Quelen? Jay Jay here. Do you mean Jacqueline? Okay. So does house going be y'all wanna play? Okay. Dan. Jay quan. This is the key NPL teacher who can't pronounce good substitute teachers got going for. Yeah. And you got the point. Sarah. Here is your last question of the game. Finger at you and telling you. Can. I know that you have to. He. Proven once they up to. What happened? Coming months. I suspect. Yeah. They were. But you're great Giles of Buffy the vampire slayer, correct bed. All right, Tara. Yes. Answer to win the game. Are you ready? Seventy seconds for you to fully gain someone's character. His look for grammar posture send a tire level, perspiration, type of collar shirt, collar English bread, obviously. But let's hold the questions until the good morning. I mean. Gapped and whole. All right. Let's get scores. Are all right. That was close right to the end everybody Sarah ended with nine Joe head ten. I had a. On everyone tiebreaker. We're going to give to to steel mills for this so bad prize. I am going to redo a top line of the resume. You tell me who this is. I ready. Yes. Fifty substitute teacher in the greater Miami area, specialty English literature. Born act. Correct. But wake is we have to find out who's been a good student. We need to find out the day point totals. Oh, my well since I since we've been keeping track of them. Okay. Sarah has since since they last reset. Sarah's got eight I have twelve and the valued guests have twenty three. Dave points win the day. So. The less side this happened. I was sitting in between these two, and I'm really glad that case, right? Value guests with the day victory on this fine. This is not a person. Thank you, fellow Gast's Clem cadiddlehopper wrestling, are you keeping track? And how might tips on how to run a classroom. Handing out Sarah points on day. One cast the end of the year carved them into the top of my top desk. All right guys for another episode of extra great, we glommed onto the other two's early success before going around the dial with stops at the good place. Rent live QB one and unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. We explained why we weren't technically into certain quality shows but were into Joe's candidate entry for poses mother of the year. We crowned winners and losers of the week, and Joe superior pop culture brain winner of this week's educational game time, remember. David Kohl, and I'll be half of tar area. Red skelton. To read we all have very clean bottles. Thanks for listening. Everyone was see next time right here on extra great. Well, take a long last look at this filet Mignon, I doubt we'll be conversing ever again. Unless I take a sudden interest in dying of four.

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How Much Money is Enough? with Mike White

In Bed with Nick and Megan

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How Much Money is Enough? with Mike White

"This episode is brought to you by sleepnumber. Sleep number beds. Allow you to adjust on each side to your ideal firmness comfort and support and with sleep. Iq technology inside the bed attracts. How your sleeping and gives you personalized insights for your best sleep. Stick around stick around later in the episode to hear a special segment from US and sleep number my research the F. Anne. How the potty all right well welcome everybody to a new installment of number one world's most internationally beloved podcast in bed with Nick and Megan starring Nick Offerman and featuring Megan Malala with this week's very special guest star Mike White for pro Mike is Heroic Los Angeles screen writer and director and Creator Television shows and actor and Reality Television Star. So we're GONNA talk about pretty much mostly reality television. We're GONNA throw a bone at the fine works of art that my created. Hi Mike thanks searching our here. Welcome to the first person to wear are complementary socks. I thought I was like I think. They want me to wear the socks. They don't mean dirty on the bed. Now we didn't. It was because we had a guest who didn't have felt comfortable having their feet exposed so we had to run out and buy socks. We're on our bed and you know a lot of people shoes Fox look. We're all trusted so I'm going to listen. I just want to show you God. I've been I run sock software. Hausner should something pretty good right now. I have these beat up like mystery areas because I want to find out if it's okay you would prefer me and socks just assume. Yeah I guess I think you feel like Mike White can take head and asked me not to listen. That was communication. We did nothing to be ashamed. Aston answer as your feet. My couch an Wayne Needs. I'm number tutted with you. And I need. Are you in memory of both of you? I think my thirtieth birthday party Ida Thirtieth Birthday Party old. It was pretty popular like Mediterranean restaurant on Melrose that was like had like a bar and then in the back was like outdoor seating. It was a popular place. It was right near Fairfax. But it's gone now but I had my thirtieth birthday there. If we didn't know you yet why would we your friends with Jack with lax? Yeah and Laura and I think it was will and grace on a thin. Yeah it was. It was two thousand. Yeah that was there. We met actually so anyway. I remember yeah you were there together at my thirtieth birthday party. But I don't think we I mean it wasn't until much later that we actually were like conversing but I but I- holding up really well birthday. What time of the year date June twenty eighth? What Dude you two days younger than me? Nine thousand nine hundred seventy six nineteen. Oh my God that's June phrases. My Dad's birthday and it's Aubrey Plaza. And its positive. Angie's birthday birthday to Schwartzman Paul. Thomas Anderson Arianna `grande only now Arianna `Grande or Paul Thomas Anderson. No we're talking about people. We SORT OF NARROW I. It's weird I don't I mean I grew up in La. So I have to now astrology. It's really at some point. You have to say so. I don't know if I really believe in it all. They've done all that it is weird. How like the people that I know their birthdays cluster? In in times where I'm supposed to be about all of those people like I know like a ton of people like in the last week of June and early July birth thirty two. Yeah and like a ton of people in Nevada tober early Nova Scorpio's so yeah it's yeah so sa- doesn't surprise me like I literally have the friends I have are are cancers at Scorpio's that's really funny. Yeah I and I must say I loved A lot of my friends are Los Angeles natives and I love the people who grew up. Here it's funny because I really I've done I haven't done at all. I mean as far as like new kids just at some point you have to like I. Yeah you have to go your you know. Ironic strategists is just like. I mean. He can't live here fifty years. You know you can't get your vehicle registered installments. I actually do street. This is how Eliot I'm like. I don't really know anything about astrology. That'll be my like how Chicago you're fifty years old. You know your sign you. There used to be this amazing metaphysical bookstore in Los Angeles on. Melrose called the body trade of course and every Betty Mrs that it's been closed now for ten hours just wandering the buddy change in the book just like licking in the aisles. And I also went through a period where I would do like every personality. Like the any Graham Myers like all like there's so many different ways to think about yourself. I've done it all any gramley. Those there's the nine personality. Oh Oh I find you. All of it has basic stuff. Megan I would say you're probably a three and what's it. Three three is like a performer. I'm most people in our. I mean they're also like they like they like to. They want to be seen. I'm I'm three. I'm mighty casts eight and a half hour gives us harder for shovel. Yeah there's a lot you should. I you know what I can give you the link where you can do a couple. Take one hundred questions but after you you you get your results in like three different interest. That's for sure and actually when I was one of the things in was funny when I went on Amazing Race. Survivor is the amazing race. They make you take all of these standardized tests. And it's I mean that's just like that's in. I can't think of a more fun way to spend tired of this. That Hollywood or survivor or they do on survivor. What was funny. What's funny about it? Means that you do it with your partner. You take the tests separately. Obviously but then you get your results together and each time in classic. 'cause you can see the show is like these people are all crazy but the two partners. I had both failed their tests jab the psych test. After my first partner it was over. You know it was like this guy was a screen writer. His name is John Casimir Larry Cousin's son and he's done some movies on us to and he we were GONNA go neurotic. Like I duNno Agoraphobia screenwriters which I'm not really that but I was happy to I want to get on the show. This is my dream and I was like I'll get on the John because he's perfect. He'll be funny. Because he's he's like Woody Allen Lake scared of leg everything it'll be funny and so then he took the test and they were like Gosh. She really score off the charts in a anxieties. I know are you afraid to fly. Yes but what I'm really afraid of is just being in a room with someone other than myself and my bowel movements won't be regular and I was like you know if you don't mean you have to go to this place. Which is you? Don't go home go to. It's called elimination station or something Tang. And it's like a resort. It's Nice it's weird. It was on Costa Movie. It was not like some you know wasn't like Dungeon and he's like I know I'm worried about that too and I was like John. We're not going to lose. We're going to win. And then he looks at me to realize how crazy you sound anyway back to his free therapy session here and so then they were like yes or they didn't let us go. I was so mad at him and I was like dude. I mean I could have chosen somebody else and it was like it was weeks from. We're down to like the last fourteen teams and it was like something I really wanted to do. And so I didn't speech them for like three weeks like so mad. I finally had dinner with him and like we had dinner and he had like all these like third degree burns. It looks like on his elbows in his face and stuff and I was like what happened. He's like well after the whole fiasco with the amazing race. I felt really emasculated and I went and got a treadmill and I put it in my house and I fell off the treadmill and I got caught between the thing and I got burns all over my face and I was like. Oh my God. I can't be mad at this guy. He can't even be on a treadmill house. Little trowel around the world and then I went with my dad and he took the test and he failed to let him go anyway. He scored really off the charts for paranoia and he and the woman saying well. We're not you know because of your age we're not afraid you're gonNA poke anyone and she kept you poke poke anybody so they let him go through even though he he failed the test. I mean. So you're you and you guys want so now. He didn't win. We got we got far. I don't know I guess the essay. They don't be responsible if he was violent but like he was like I don't understand why why. What does it say? Dad was he was he was a. He's a former minister. Evangelical who became who is gay and came out and became a gay activist and he would go to all these churches and and people would. I mean even some really crazy crap like people would spit on him and like W- death threats and stuff and so by the time we did amazing race. He was full on. He'd been really on the frontlines of and so the woman was like well. You you know here. It says people are trying to kill you. He's like well people. Are I get letters all the time? They're threatening my life and she's like well here. It says that you have had visions. He's like well once. I was arrested for my activism. I went on a hunger strike in after three days. I saw my heroes in the jail cell. Whitney Martin Luther King was there and then Gandhi. I mean I know they weren't there but it was like they were there. You know what I mean like. Dad What do you think? And then he's like. Well what does it say about Mike? And he's like well he comes off pretty well. He's like she's lying. Appear to be really astonishing speaks to the force of your will that you then succeeded. You made it on the show and succeed. It was. What's that being on the main thing rates for my dad? 'cause MAY HOLD. My Dad's will trip was since he was a kid was like he just wanted to prove that he was like normal even though he's gay and like you know and he would go to these churches and try to you. Know he was working out whatever his deal of his parents the religious community which obviously was a big waste of time. I mean I think he did help people who are gay and those communities but he you know he did suffer a lot from feeling just constantly rejected like he was basically just kept reopening the wound you know his wounds of his parents rejection of him because he was gay and it was funny as being on. Amazing Race Kaz. He isn't very lovable leg. He's like such a you know. He's very charismatic. Appealing guy and so. I don't know the reaction he got for being on that show in a weird way. I think is Cathartic is I was aware of something. I was like what he'd been looking for. You know in his own his own way just to show that you know he was a bad guy. A huge load of approval and just like people saw him as the cute guy that you know father that he you know. It's funny how those reality shows like they're married. They're silly but they can have deeper impact. The Real I mean we love specifically survivor is our favorite. And and that's mainly thanks to Megan's Accu men from the get-go she was like this show is pure and true and really well constructed and really clever and has has proceeded over twenty years. It's been on or so thirty some odd seasons now. It's almost forty two years so twenty years. Yeah it's continues to you. Know add attempt to reinvent itself and stay fresh and sort of stay ahead of the players strategy linked up harp. You don't like the way they produce it. No I ain't doing good job but I feel like he gets you know to me what I always liked was the social experiment. Part of it was just like I mean I remember seeing the first season I was like you know the very first episode. They vote off the sweet lady who plays the guitar and I was like. Oh my God. And she's gone over. She's dead and there was like an and that's what I liked about. Survivor was kind of a ritual. Like collective murder was like Shirley Jackson's the lottery. Like someone has to die. You Old lady dough and there was like outside leg. Yeah it was just it was so like you know soak you know there's something just so yeah to me in the characters were just re out of control and so like so to me. I. I'm less interested in like the game part of it except as it relates to that. Just you know the person and you know like the personalities when it gets to when I feel like I'm just watching a game show. I get less interested. But then when I'm watching someone starving wishing death upon their whatever the crazy stuff but like the shows about how people act under like you know when they're deprived of stuff about part is why. Watch it next inning of breaking down very logically but the truth is that. We've been toying with the idea of Nick actually being on survivor for years. And it's sort of like a real possibility and goes in Guinea pig. I mean obviously more famous guy was but But I I mean I don't know this is the I mean. This is the reason I did the show like it's like at some point. It's just fun to play a new game. You know. Wait a minute. So what was the best? Were the best parts of doing. The whole thing was just I? I love every second of it to be honest. I thought it was GONNA have a real problems with the starving and all of the. Because I've done you know choose. I mean I'm La. Like I said like I've done juice cleanses. I've had the KALANICK's like I've had like where you're like starving and link and I can't even make it to the afternoon without being you know bitchy unhappy and so I was like this is not gonNa be good and also I wanted to be fun and funny or whatever and I was like. I'm not funny when I'm starving. I'm like actually just elected crotchety bit. She just sits in the corner. Like you know it's not gonna be that entertaining gonNA suck but I was like all this stuff that was like the sort of depriving parts of it actually turned out to be not that bad. I mean it was bad I lost twenty five pounds and I. Am You know your mosquitoes are biting through your clothes? But it is kind of like you like having the you know the survey where you signed up. It's not a surprise and it was funny. How like the younger people who are like stronger? Obviously than me in many ways were like just like falling apart like immediately like what do we do like it was like you know like there was a guy who is in the corner like you know he could like cut down trees and chopping boo and we did all these things and he was like do horn review? It was funny how they were falling like flies so the hardest was. I don't know it was it was the hardest was just. Yeah the hardest was when I first got there and you realize you know it's like I'm again. I'm not it's not like everywhere I go. I'm recognized but I feel like I'm I'm Yusufu I Dunno whatever I've done in this business has has made has lubricated the SOC my social life you know what I mean we're I don't I'm not feeling like I always have to justify why I'm somewhere like you know what I mean. I feel like you know people come to me and I'm not you know I. I don't feel insecure usually when I'm in social situations but like being there the first day and you realize like okay. These people like they don't care you know what I mean like. Maybe and they're all younger. These are all you know. I was on the tribe of the buffs bodied people and I and I felt like I was back in like religious summer camp where I was like. I do know like how to connect with people and I was like trying to tell stories that maybe sound cool about being on private planes Jennifer Aniston or something. It was just like you know trying to see if that would get me in with them and just feeling like a total like that part was that was also part of why. I wanted to do it because I feel like. That's the part when I like playing the game it's like and I it's like at this age. It's like I feel like I'm I don't know like to be unburdened by my own luggage and my own sense of identity is something that is. I crave it a little bit. You don't feel like you know here in La. I've always like wait in line. That place or you know you know everything becomes easier. You start seeing. It's like you know we need. That's what's fun about. Traveling is like you just. You don't know how to Orient Everything. And so you're kind of liberated from your own leg limited way of thinking about things and so you have to like take everything in a new way and that's what was fun about Sorority. Where it's just you know you're you're divorced from your old self and and you can play a new self rule in your head a lot of success with film working. Tv work where that in a way that has its own sort of cage where people come to expect certain things of you or they know your voice and so you you can feel hemmed in by like I live in this world there there it has. It's certainly ruts and it sounds like it's really liberating to break out of that and I mean it's yeah it's I'm sure that's why you know you guys take on different kinds of not just rolls but you know mediums are ways to express yourself and I think that that's that's the part that I definitely am feeling more than ever in terms of the business and being living here. Is this feeling of you know it's like you. WanNa live in interesting life. You WanNa have respect for yourself as far as like the choices you made like who you how you live you know and and I just don't WanNA use things out of a compulsive just because that's what I do or that's where I get my approval and that's you know it's like he want to have a more. You know inspired way of looking at how you spend your time. You know what I mean especially as like for me you know like obviously i. I wanted to make enough money to live and all that. But that's covered you know and now it's like you know it's cool to have make movies and people like him or not like them or whatever but I know I know all the feelings embark on. It's like you know this is a cool new thing but I already. You know it's like it's like I feel like I know how I'm going to you know feel all the way through it or they know what you know? I don't know it's something if it just feels familiar in some way and so it's like the rush for me is when you're like you know you got your your your Yeah you standing in front of some new way of thinking feeling that you can't control and you you learn something and I don't know so those are the experiences a I want to try to seek out but sometimes you lazy Nassar just. It's just easier to take the job or burgess. Do the thing that you know that you're you're good at doing you know but I think l. Everything is relative because you know every everyone is allowed to get to a point where they feel like they've you know come to a crossroads and maybe they want to do something else. And why are they questioning? You know where they're where they're at and continuing forward with the same thing they've been doing. I think it happens to everybody at a certain point right and it's also to me. It's it's it's really more. It's just about saving money and attack the certain kind of attention that I get in this industry is is not the value is not the metrics for how I value my life will. You've had the good fortune to learn that that doesn't pay the dividends. Yeah the audience might suspect it. Would I would just say to the audience. Who sticking that trustee to go through all this so learn the lesson now. You can't you don't unless it's just like anything like I can't tell people what it's like to be on survivor. But I can you know it's like trust me like it's nice doesn't I think this is a delicious conversation about the human experience because it's applicable to anybody's life where it's sort of boils down to the question In your case of like do I do. I stay in this world of opportunity where I can write myself to happiness or I can create you know Through your work you can you can create a sense of fulfillment or should I step away from that and allow my way. I live my life to create that sense from it. Should I live the movie or should I write them and movie or is it? Is The answer balance of the two? And it's something that I you know. Megan and I from the get-go had a student teacher element because she's been through everything in the business a decade before a just because of age difference and her she's been cast as the lead of stuff soon soon as she showed up to her first audition whereas I was more like. How do you guys have room for a donkey in this production and so in our in our lives together in our house? We'd we definitely feel very lucky that we get to make our living being creative whether it's doing stuff with her band or working as actors or writing books are doing a podcast but that is a constant you know something that it's hard to fathom once from the outside. It appears that our dreams have come true. It's hard to fathom that you're still human beings with all the insecurities and neuroses whatever So even even if you're you know handed a five picture deal as a superhero from marvel or Disney. Whatever they're called now Everyone's dream it's yeah it's actually truly the dream of many or what you would think a. Hollywood dream would be in. It's pretty. It's pretty easy to fathom once you get remotely close to it how it applies really practically where you're like. Oh that okay so not only my signing up to play the superhero but I have to work with a trainer six hours a day like my eating is going to be is torturous for the next seven years. I have to fly to Tokyo withdraw of a hat for junkets and so forth like once you begin to understand the the many the myriad ways in which it takes over your life suddenly. It's not so much a dream as like a really complicated life choice and I think it's healthy that you are in that you are able to ask that of yourself rather than you know. What's the answer? Well we were talking earlier before we started recording. You are saying that you are at a point where you're wondering how much money you need to have before you can stop. Yeah Yeah So. Let's talk about that for a minute. I mean is there a number? There's an there's a commercial that has like you know if you seen those commercials where it's like your retirement number. It's like in like a million and that's like I think that's funny thing that there's a number but I but I I I don't know I mean it's funny I look at my parents and and this is pretty personal but I doubt they'll listen to this by like my dad has always had this need to feel special. Which is definitely I. Don't know I I'm that's my malediction by like I but I you know it's like and he has lived his life like needing to be seen in debt. None all this stuff and there's a lot of Sturman wrong with that and my mom is not really been like that. She just has a community of friends and lay. And as I've gotten older it's like look at my mom and like she has her an-an-and she's just it's like she's she's just put roots like deeper and deeper in the roots are our really strong and that seems like. That's what you are doing. Which is you know it's like create. You know how creating really creative community and and I don't know how well that's one thing about doing this podcast is you. You know we're talking all different people so far. They've all been people that we know. But it every person has made me think about different subjects like this and things that I think he can always relate to everybody's experience but I think that's a cool off. Shoot of the of doing this. Podcast is that it makes you. It makes you think about a lot of things in relate examined where you're at. Yeah I mean specifically in your case the I feel like you're really good the thing I love about your work so much as your ability to insert these questions Front Center in your films in a Bread Status Beatrice dinner and enlightenment spring to mind where you're putting these existential questions. Like what are we doing here? Like what what life choices can I feel good about or yeah or will I drown ray? How can I avoid that regret? Yeah Haynick Hi. Are you ready to turn your dream into a reality? Sure with squarespace this a square space. This is your dream. Your dream was literally to do. 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Hbo and lightened. Which is why. I'm nick and my all time. Favorite shows two seasons and we were so. I told you this before but when I found out that it wasn't going to have a third season and I told NECK. He started crying. Well it was very dusty grain truck. We were in the back of rain last much. We love also. Yeah so what I when you said. 'cause I don't think I ever realized until now that you are from Los Angeles and so then you know we. We did talk a little bit about all the Tarot Card reading channeling aspects of being from here and just this little subculture so how that now the idea of the show is taking on a whole new meaning but I really am that woman. You are that beautiful blonde. So let's talk about that a little bit like did did you go to them with did you go to? Hbo With the idea. Or did they approach you to do a show to do? Laura and I Laura dern and the idea was like she'd had a version of the idea I was. I was you know the time of. I didn't want to TV again the last time I did TV. I was actually hospitalized because I lost my mind. I was like I literally have like the beginning of enlightened. She's like at her work and she's like call. You don't know what happened to me. I was like burn it down like sent the email you copy everybody in Hollywood legs and it was like an apartment was just a stray. It was like a literally a Fox a Sitcom and and it was just it was Jason Schwartzman and Molly Shannon and Mike White Bridge Burner called cracking up. Ironically yes I just had the worst experience on that and I felt like I was throwing this party. I had all my friends come and then the party sucks and then it doesn't end and it just every day you're like sorry. I know this sucks. What to do is still pretty young was thirty three or four and I was in and so yeah I had this like basically like a nervous breakdown and I was. I went to shrink like had sent a letter. I was hoping that they'd fire me. And instead like I I got a call. And they're like Gail Berman's in her office and she's crying. She's never felt more betrayed by a writer. But where's the script and like it's not over more hostile and so I like I started feeling like I was having a heart attack and I went to a shrink that my dad was a connected me too and he was like. Do you feel like you're you know have any suicidal WanNa throw myself in front of a bus by like. That's not new really and then and so the next time I'm being checked into Las encinas in there and it was like and I realized I was going to have a room and I was like you guys. I'm not like crazy under stress. The fuck out and this is not necessarily going to help me and like so then I literally am chased out of loss like they run after me. I'm in I get to my car. I locked the door drive office. These people are chasing my mother's with them and she cries Hewlett on. What's going on you had to escape in other words? It was like I know as they were doing all the paperwork I was like no fuck this and ran ran away drove and like and then I'm driving and turns the shrink had called the office and was like Mike's not coming in today or anytime soon. He's gone away to get the help he needs. And so like. There's like ten messages on my machine. From all of these people who had been living hell by the way like all these produces like crying like. Just get the help you need. Forget about the show I was. I was on my way back to work. That had that sort of Shit. The bed work experience and I was and then I after that it was like the best year my life because like they cancel the show and I was just like I'd been under so much pressure that I was just like everyday like I was on cloud nine so happy to be alive with Mel Fox show and so like and so then trauma side. That was baller amazing race training right there. You mean running away from the psychiatry. Oh yeah no I've that's one thing. I am good at running away but anyway yeah so I was just. I thought I don't want to do in their show but I was like it'd be funny show about somebody who's totally shits the bed at work and then has to come back and then it's like suddenly like. I've had all this help and I'm gonNA help you guys like because that's how I felt like I was like I'd go by the people are in the show and I'm like everything's Great Jersey ordinary people that there is a senior of Timothy Hutton. Where he meets one of his old friends from Shank and she's like Conrad. We're GONNA have amazing summer. That'd be the best summer ever in the next scene like she's committed suicide and he's like yeah it's great here the other side but yes so that was. That was the idea that that was my that was that was excited me about doing the show. It was like somebody who's like she's totally lost their mind but lacey's comeback. She's done some self help and now she has the answers for the company and everybody was like. That's me such a brilliant show and she keeps try she's keeps trying to be a role model and be spiritual and just crashing and burning at every. Turn and you have your your so great at Castaing. I must say really have such a great. I mean that was written for Laura. She's obviously can do pretty much anything. But you know we have a really good mutual friend Molly Shannon. And you're the first person to cast her. You didn't indie movie with choose. The leader in called year of the dog was avoided about two thousand seven. And you know that was really the first time that people had. I know I was friends with her before that and and I remember having lunch with her one time insane I for some reason so see you doing dramatic stuff too and we had you know hall. She was really you know molly molly some amazing and filled with humility and I mean real humility but I she was so great in that and that really opened doors for her to do all the incredible more dramatic work. She's done since then will she was the personal. I felt the most. I felt bad about everybody that I'd let down on that show but she that's how I knew her was that Fox show and then after that was over I was like I gotTa make some tamales. Somehow it's also she is such a you know she's such a uniquely. It's like I wish I could. You know whatever she's got. I wish I could just take a pill about every morning or something. Yeah and you know. Because she's got such a good attitude about. I don't know she's very grateful all the parents that I've known friends of mine. She's the top. She's the best mother or it doesn't get any better. She's she's a great great. I wanted to write something for and I also thought you know there's something about her. She's I mean I do think that movies funny but also it's you know she plays these sort of big you know when she was on Saturday night live. Obviously what people have known her for. But there's something else that really funny Matt Ryan. She's being real leg. You know super simple and quiet or yes so I I. I let me rephrase that It's not a drama. I mean there are dramatic elements and she plays a real person. Yeah and I think that that allowed people to see her in a completely new school the mice and also you did that movie the good girl Jennifer Aniston and two thousand early. Charleston's yeah and I think also that was at a time when You know people only knew her from friends and you saw her in a different way. What's I've always? I generally find that people but I feel like sometimes dramatic actors or dramatic actress because they tend to be a little more humorless. Yes there's like. And so that's not why tribe because you'll give actors a bad name. I mean drama his drama. And you know I got by like if you know something. I'm writing or whatever it's like it just sometimes it's like there's we're not connecting were and so like but with comedians. I feel like obviously. I think there's a lot more my feeling about to see you know. Generally working with people seen as comedic actors is there's less Vanity first of all. And then there's just it's like they're trying to go for the truth whatever. It is obviously get the comedy but I think I honestly think drama is easier to do than you know finding the nuances that you. I don't know it's like that's to me. That's life is like people in general are absurd at the same time they go through real pain. So it's like you know you need to get all the colors. Yeah Yeah we were saying that the other day that most almost all of our friends and the people that were drawn to come from comedy area due at the same time never did that show and why was such a disaster was whatever the their idea of what comedy was was something that was so I felt so uncomfortable. I wasn't able to deliver on something that is just you know like you know. Just funny like funny like they would be like. Turn the lights on. Like I just want to go to that house and turn on all the lights and it's like when she looked sad hind sad like less than the music that makes them seem. Sorta crazier something. It's always. I don't know what I'm doing. What are they. So it's like a some for me and I always want to give. I don't know something it's this is my. This is the problem of my whole as far as trying to be successful. A super successful is that. I don't WanNa give people what they want. You know it's like if you're trying to win a popularity contest and then you win just sort of like you know. It's still not easy to do but it doesn't. It's like it's like you know I want you to love my ugly baby right. Don't you think uglier the beam here cut out for Network Television magazine? Yeah there was something to you. Don't want you don't want them to reward you for what they wanted. You want to supersede that by them saying Oh you gave us your ugly baby and that was thank God. You stuck to your guns. 'cause that's obviously way better than are stupid corporate baby. I mean it's the same as just how you go in life where it's like. Oh you know if I'm charming and rich and like you like me. Yeah sure you like me no neck. Hello listen I'm in a little bit of a hurry way to therapy. But did you know that you can get counseling online No I did not know that I'm not saying that you need it but I'm just saying for now particular reason that you could get counseling online. Well I mean I feel like I don't know in general. Sometimes there is something interfering with my happiness or preventing me from achieving my goals Is this online counseling kind of thing? That could help with that. It is it is absolutely the kind of thing help with that. It's called better help. Better help and you can go to them and you can find a professional counselor and is it a licensed professional counselor. Yes it is yes it. Has They specialize in depression anxiety relationships? I mean not that your relationship is anything less than one hundred percent perfect trauma anger family conflicts shut up. Lgbt Matters Grief Self Min your self. Esteem is pretty low. I think we can say well. I mean you know self loathing I think is something that occurs to everybody but I mean these are all these are all pretty great things and I feel like you know. We know a lot of people besides ourselves. That sort fall into these categories could use a little help one way or another and even though it's online it's safe and it's proven and everything that you talk about is completely confidential use. The cool thing is since it's online. You can probably set up appointments to do it at your own time. I mean I don't know if they're going to do it at like two in the morning but you could do it. Premature on time in your time So yeah you just do it over the phone. You can do video chat you can text. I mean there's all kinds of ways that you can do it So and if you're you find a counselor and you're not happy with them. You can request a new counselor time you want to. Yeah so look I did look into this a little bit because I'm a little worried about you only because you have to deal with me. Let's face it you can get ten percent off of your first month with the discount code bed. Bvd WOW so why not? I mean it is half your podcast so that sounds pretty affordable. I mean in general probably rather than hauling myself into some fancy therapy office. I guess I'm going to go there and fill out a questionnaire and see if they can help me assess my needs and get masked with a counselor that I might love. I write well. You gotta go better dot com slash bad and You know that's I really need to do and I'm sorry that I've been such a handful and that you need to go to therapy but I'm glad that there's a resource for you. We're all in this together. It is a really important. I don't think it can be overstated to try to work with. You said your tribe as much as humanly possible. I think that's the key to happiness in your job. I mean I've had jobs that went on for years where I realized. In retrospect that those people absolutely one hundred percent didn't get mad weren't interested in finding out you know I think especially if you're there as an actor too vulnerable to that can really I mean I've known wires on like you know hit shows and at the same time. They have felt like the worst about themselves that they've ever felt or something you know again for our audience out there on a hit show that. I remember when you're on survivor. You're talking about the fact that everybody is the most impressed with when they find out that you wrote School of rock. That's what everybody wants to talk about and yet that's not necessarily your I mean I'm sure it's got honestly little rock had been unseen like you know streamer was best straight to video. I would be like. Oh you like school. You know school right. It's like a we make something I don't you know a for me. It's not like once it's out there. It's like if it almost feels like it's not mine. It's it's really just in the making where you feel really alive with it. And then it's I duNno. It's like you know I don't I don't know yeah with acting. I think once once its mouth takes on jeff feel. I do want to ask about your reign of terror in Norway with Aubrey Plaza. Just got back from. How Long Norway? We were there for like ten days days. Just the two of you different people. I I have a goddaughter who we went to Sweden. You're before Aubrey Knight. And at some point we ran insult God daughter. Who's like eighteen years old? She's very like like I don't know I was like. I gotTa keep her away from Aubrey and then she ended up very interning in Sweden again this summer. And so we ran into my goddaughter's part of my God. I mean Aubrey ignore way by storm. It was I what happened is I ended up going. I am did all my just like I do. My and my astrology. I did my DNA and like found my ancestors. I have like you know like all of this family from Norway and so like through all that I found a cousin who is like a like a thousand times removes who lives in Oslo and so like He. He's rich. Which is you know the best if you're finding like old. It's like all the poor relatives all your life like you're like I'm like I'm like I've been trying to ditch these relatives now. I'm trying to find the new ones on answers. I'm just kidding. But there is a rich Norwegian realtor. Now we gotta go out there and he'll take us out and say like we re hit the town in Oslo and it was like one of those nights just like you can't is I don't I don't know. We just partied ended up in restraint houses and it was just like back. That could really rocking. I love that. How do you know Aubrey? I just met her at a party. Wants Aubrey. I don't know a lot about Nordic police techniques but was it was it hard to cover up. Aubrey's murders while you were there part did she. I mean do you think you've got We left the bodies. It's funny because we stayed at this hotel around is hard for digging the fact there was a we. We stated this like old seriously old hotel in the middle of nowhere and it was haunted like they literally had like a dose in the hotel that they serve. They put out a plate of food for every night. They all have seen it like they. I mean like and these seem like normal people but they like. Oh Yeah. She's she walks. The halls was like it was like excuse me found her home. She was all girls party and Aubrey stood at all. The women were down in the yard in the backyard. And there's a we have a duck. Aubrey stood on the deck and gave a witches incantation to the entire Party and it was so right. She's found her calling for sure. It's funny because I'm always trying to get. I don't like I mean obviously I apart I still drink and but like I found that like what was funny as if she was really jetlagged so I'd be like she would wake up every morning for like the first five hours and I was like you need like a cocktail or something and so like the whole week like I'm literally like pushing her to drink the whole hire and she's like I can't think drinking like this. I was like believe we need your drag. You're going to like parties but then see parties. She's like there's literally no one funder like she will just. She's like Punk Rock Zero Fox and that's how I like to roll that. Let's all go to dinner. Let's call brand volume student. What's funny is I don't ever see one time I saw. It was here at your house. I we only see each other in Scandinavia. I think on that note about this episode started catered to the Scandinavians. You left in your wake. Hurry dear listener. Thank you for listening to another very very special episode of the number one. 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Osmosis Jones

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Osmosis Jones

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This is the first episode of this show that we've done that Kinda gross me out. Isn't that interesting We have a special. This is a special show. Yeah. To finish out Max van drive. We're doing something a little different and this has been something we have been. Trying to do for some time. I was threatening Sydney with it for quite sometime and she didn't want to do it. and. Then we were about to sit down. We've finally got. Well, let me tell you what it is. I. We are going to sort of. Rate Review Explore, holistically, discuss the two thousand and one seminal film, Osmosis, Jones, and I know you're excited I'm excited to, you shouldn't be but. you should. I mean. You can be the loud but not understood. Yes, and we know that. All as always lately, a very difficult news cycle. We completely understand that we'll be back to our regularly scheduled sovereigns next week. I'm sure. But. We just wanted to give a little break a little oasis for you here. Is, so ACIS Moses. Thank you sitting on a mouthful that feels nice though siblings. Cellar door, osmosis oasis, very pleasant. Sounds. I. Prefer Osmo Waste Disposal Most is away says so. This movie. which in order I I would like to say that in order to do the show since we were going to do this a while ago and then decided we needed to focus on more serious matters. I have now had to see this movie twice. Yes. We were going to do it, and then our nation were was consumed in the fires of protests. and. We thought this is a weird time to do and osmosis episode. So we can do it. That was like a month ago is more than a month ago. It's been a while it's still weird time to do an Osmosis Jones episode, but we kind of figured. You know we've. Once. Americans arrest, we'll watch it again. We'll talk about it because there's gotta be. We have to find space for all of these things in life. Right? We have to find space to speak out about the things that matters, and then I guess, we also have to find space to wash osmosis Jones twice. the second time around forcing your children to watch it with you in the hopes that they would enjoy it. But also understanding why they didn't. Your your boy also did. Take a little trip to dreamland the I highly watched him for the last twenty minutes or so now you know the whole story. I. Know the entire Epic Tale of Osmosis, Jones and drinks by Chris Topher Rock and David Hyde Pierce. That's right. You could absolutely carbon date this movie within a good leg weet to a week and a half just by its cast. Bill. Murray is in it as well and let let me say that could be. Any point in the last forty years I don't usually and I think this might be a symptom of of being a parent. I am usually not excited about watching anything animated. when I don't have to I, watch plenty of animation with our children and salvages quite good. some that, I. I would celebrate. But generally speaking when it's just the two of us, I don't like to watch animated things. I WanNa wash grownup stuff and when it started and it was all you like to watch adult movies, not adult movies when it started and it starts live action because we've gotta meet. Bill Murray and I thought Oh Bill Murray's here. Well, this can't be so bad right Bill Murray. And, and because Bill Murray is whose body we're going to spend the rest of the film inside. It's called the city of Frank. and this is where Bill Murray lives And I love Bill Murray. But he is as gross as a human can be in this movie. The basic idea I feel like we should just like outline. We can't tear through the plot we've gotTA lovingly. Be by the EARLS. What are we done again? Well, I just mean the premise. The premise is this movie has like two sides Yeah. That you're seeing. You're seeing Jackman guides. You're seeing the live action side with Bill Murray and his daughter Bill. Murray. A father whose I would say not winning any awards for father of the year right now and certainly not concerned with his own health and safety. And then the inside of his body, the inside Frank Spotty where we watch all of the various cells and germs and whatnot interact And I don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA spoil. I, guess if you WANNA go through it bit by bit. But that part is animated. That statement? Yes. It's not like inner space. We're not like inside it like little. Their. That would be interesting to Chris Rock is a white blood cell. Yes Chris Rock's white blood cell. He's sort of basically a cop, your body cop and Drake's the cold pill is sort of like He supposed to be any sort of a over the counter cold medicine. You would buy. That's actually it's got one capsule, but it's got a bunch of different medications in it to do different things I don't think. He could be any number of them. The chemical name for him that they throw out isn't really one thing. It's like a combination of a bunch of different things. So. You know and and I do like that is one of the things I like. If I'm watching this from a standpoint of medical accuracy is that are so our character, Frank Bill Murray. Get sick or has some symptoms of illness early on and takes the cold pill and I feel like in the movie, what we understand the coal pill to be doing inside the human body is actually at first, fairly true to. True to life, there's like a irritation in. So the the Gimmick of the movie is Frank's body is presented like city called the city of Frank. So when he's got a sore throat during the throat district with the body and there's burning buildings because his throat is sore and inflamed and drake shows up with like an ice candidate, and basically like blast, the whole throat numbs the pain of his sore throat. Yes, and I thought that was like a nice representations that. He's not actually fixing anything, and in fact, the even represent that further because the premises that in the very beginning, I can't even believe I'm describing this. I am a medical doctor in the very beginning of the movie. Frank is eating a hardboiled egg covered in. Manas. In front of a monkey at the zoo. And the monkey seals his egg and he wrestles the monkey through the cage to get the egg back and then eats it after it's been in the monkees mouth in on the ground in the monkey's cage and in doing this. Truly heinous act that I have to watch on TV. He gets a virus. Yeah, a very bad virus is introduced into frank and they and it's funny because again I thought this was kind of. A good like I. I was hoping there were things the kids could learn from it. So they're used to germs coming in the body germs come in all the time joke about how often frank gets germs and how he needs to learn how to wash his hands before he eats, which is true. We encounter lots of germs that our body is good at just kind of taken care of right like no big deal. But this time, this germ, this virus, thr- ax is a big bad guy voiced by our friend. Your friend of Mine Larry, Fishburne? He's our friend well, personal friend though just that one season When the guy said, he got flowers from Larry Fishburne. That's right that I don't think that was ever proven. That was never proven but So, this drax I think I mean, obviously the name sort of sounds like anthrax, but I don't. That's a chemical, right? Like, no, no, that's that would be. He could. He could be. But I. I. Don't I don't get the sense. The things he does to the body. Don't really make sense to me as any one infectious organism I. Feel like they very intentionally were keeping that. Or else they just didn't know I don't know. But like my my sense was this is supposed to be bad virus that probably doesn't. Really exist as this one thing. it's an Amalgam I. WanNa, give you some background first before we get into the plot of the film as to why this movie exists short of Yes, it was in sort of development, hell. For a long time, the animated parts were done. Okay, and that you know they referred to frank, but they e, they didn't have a frank the actions he was. So the animated stuff which was all directed by Tom CDO who had done a ton of. Disney stuff like he worked on l'oeil being based, Liden Lion King, you know a a bunch of those and he was the animation director He. Directed, the animated portions they were done, and then they still had not done the live action. So it sort of like languish in development hell for a long time, and I I think it's worth saying that the animated parts I think function better. Than the live action portions movie. which were directed by. The fairly brothers of you know something about Mary, kingpin? Now Grain Book. Green Irene. I think just Peter. Fairly. Did but So they, they directed the those parts the live action part, they're credited as the sole directors of this movie. But that's why the live action parts feel like a fairly brothers comedy and the animated parts feel like. an animated film. They're totally completely different, very disjointed and I don't. This was my key question I wanna try to focus on the medical accuracy because there's a medical show but. That was my key question is, why was this movie made in terms of like? Who Was it four I? Don't know who this movies four because the animated stuff is younger. Most of the time like it's more aimed at a younger audience although there are moments where there are like jokes and things like they're in a club at one point the white blood. Oh, and the cold pill are in a club that's taking place in his it. And in the club, there are like dancers that are supposed to look like they're kind of scantily clad and it like all of it felt like, okay. We'll. Now who is this is not aimed at little little. Right. Because they would have no context for what is happening here. So this is aimed at a slightly like older audience there. Some truly ghoulish deaths to like some of the cells getting killed by threats are incredibly disturbing. Yeah. Racks is scary sexists, care tracks, what you learn about threats early on and this? This is the thing that like for all the moments where I felt like i. see what they're trying to do. This is a real scientific concept like real medical concept and they're trying to represent an in kind of a fanciful way for all that racks is the number. One thing that doesn't make sense to me. I, don't know what disease this is, and a sensibly threats has been passed along. He kind of gives this history as to who the different people throughout the country he's infected are and kill and killed the first one being a little girl. Yes, and that's Lovely. The way that it's worded, our children did not pick up on that. Than I for us. Yes. She what does she look quite does she see my may were her parents nice like that would have been the entire wrestling. Yes. But somehow the way he's doing is collecting. These DNA A. B. C.'s the from different people in once he takes their DNA beat from their hypo. Thelma's then they can. Then he can kill them. which this? Well, I'm just saying like this. This was the one thing. I, was like I don't even know what you're trying to represent. From a medical standpoint with this part of it, I WANNA, finish the stage a little bit more, and then we'll talk about this movie. Okay. Film in Medical Inaccuracies accuracy escapes me, there are some, there are some The, the Warner Brothers feature animation was having a very bad time financially. they had to choose between two projects that really we're GonNa make or break the division. there was. A project for director they'd worked. With. Before. And the other one was Osmosis Jones. The wanted they'd worked with before was with someone who just liberty hit two studio, but they still with us Mrs, Jones what was the other one? The other one The last movie they had made with the tourist Brad Bird. Who who directed the iron giant for one of the she generation, the movie that he pitched to them that he then took across the street to Disney was the incredible 's ooh, this movie on the other hand that Warner Brothers decided to bet the farm on cost seventy, million dollars and brought in a whopping. Fourteen million. This is a gigantic. A gigantic flop today lost money on mitigated disaster. Well, it's really I. Mean like I said I. Don't know who this their parts of it that feel like they're trying to educate kids. About the body. For a minute and then it's like then there are some jokes which are aimed at slightly older kids. Because, little little kids wouldn't get them. You're right. There's a lot of broad humor that's like very gross. There's a lot of body humor I mean I find I find the whole film pretty Gross, pretty gross. There's a lot of gross parts. It's actually pretty hard to watch some of it. The the live action stuff is gross because Bill Murray engages in some of the most wretched behavior. Let me finish my stage setting? Okay. Well, this salsa eighteen, million dollars still though this is wild I. Don't know if you know this. year after this, we came out. There was a spin off animated series. Which I will not make you watch on the kids, Wbai. Ozzy. And tricks get this. Mosquito. Sucks. Drinks and ozzy out of Frank's body. And places them into a teenager named Hector, and they then battle viruses inside Hector's body for two seasons. This show ran ozzy and tricks. I Yeah. So that actually did happen despite being at catastrophic failure. Featuring the voice towns of Phil Lamar. Who has done? Basically Chris Route Batter. No Chris wasn't along for the ride. And too bad, Jeff Bennett. A. 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It's so gross him putting the man as on the egg, and then the monkey stealing the egg, and then he steals the egg and his poor daughter. This is okay. This is part of the I don't feel like. Something about Mary had this level of like depravity where we have this adult man who has lost his wife, the mother of his daughter at some point in the past, due to sickness that they sort of insinuate was brought on by unhealthy lifestyle. Yes. Like that is very that said several time. Yeah. Like if you guys took better care of yourself, maybe mom would still be here. Yes. I mean, she explicitly says that mom would still be alive if you guys had a better diet. It's never made clear. What what exactly happened. But that definitely is is like the daughter says this, but in the face of this. From his child. He is eating buckets of chicken and the he wants to take her to a wing festival. he's just just like, so in her face about his complete lack of Self Care Slams Beers with a shirtless. Chris Elliott, wearing a really tragic wig which that was part was good. Meanwhile we meet. Oz Most Jones, who is a cop that has been demoted because he took. Some sort of action, the a forced frank to throw up. eight. saw he frank, ADA battle waster at a school science fair. No that's later this is, are you talking about that a flashback? Yeah. Okay. Could you not follow this movie? So confusing said, yes, there was a flashback Frank Ada. At School Science Fair and it had a Badger Monnet and in order to save his life Osmosis Jones made him throw. Up. All over his kids teacher and then his kids teacher got a restraining order against him. As a result, he also got fired from his job at the peace hoop factory for throwing up on his. Yeah. He trap part is really challenging. He accidentally Thurs up on the teacher and she literally files a restraining order against him, not how that works later preventing him from going on the school field trip with his daughter. There's the very strange part. The Kid who there's a kid who's project is about wasters and he liked tried to clean them in the ocean for six months or whatever and and frank says, so they should be okay to eat, and the kid says, well, if my high pot news is correct and I'm like. Well, they say later he's a bad student. Oh, that's the joke. The project was bad. Okay. She says, I, think he probably started at last night, but we'll just give an anyway okay, I. got it. Yeah. The whole joke is at this kid doesn't is not good at this challenge that because. Taught News Line is delivered completely straight. Non Anyway joke and is is not a joke. Now, the kid didn't know it was joke thought it was right. Someone wrote the word. You didn't think the whole thing is imp documentary. There's someone who's writing the words for the child and high partners is not the word anyway. Okay. So we may not supposed to Jones, he's been demoted to patrol duty, he wants to be like. Big. That, there's better. Top. He's assigned to the teeth blasting like. Yeah keep. Yes and he wants he I don't know what job he wants, but he wants a bigger job belongs maybe bright. So the. The filthy egg allows in threats, which is a virus and all of the city of Franken upheaval in part because of the Mayor Mayor, Fleming, voiced by well, Shatner has reelection. Campaign Against Tom Colonic who is voiced by Ron Howard. And the two of them are. Basically. The mayor doesn't want to handle it well, because he's afraid of losing his reelection gaming. Yeah. I do think so. Initially appears and he's like killing other types of cells There are moments where he like uses uses his like long pointer finger to infect. People and a Lotta Times. They just sort of melt into Goo, which like is not totally off base the idea that after a cells infected at DIS But then sometimes you can see he infects things and the flames that spring up or it because it's like, when infects it burst into flames? The flames look like little viral particles. Bursting up into the air and actually thought that was really creative as a way of saying like when a virus infects a cell, it can turn the cell into a virus making machine, and then it'll pump out more virus. And I, I? Feel like they did a good job with some like there's some really like creative visual representation of aspects of an infection, an immune response, and that kind of thing. When I liked his actually the next speed. So the threat starts making Frank feel bad takes Cole pill, which is Drake's who's a very straight laced sort of by the books cop. Osmosis more rebellious play Bison rules. Classic. Buddy, COP pairing they start pumping. People for formation, looking for more information on threats and one of them they talk to is a, we would call them a confidential informant RCI. But in the world of the movie they, it's an a flu vaccine, a flu vaccine key taking. So what they've done is they've and you know I've used this a similar analogy in past shows the idea that the. The way that a vaccine works is you take in this case, the flu virus and you have made it harmless. It can't make you sick, but it tells your immune system, how to attack the real flu virus. It has the right pieces of it so that your immune system will how to fight off the flu virus when the real deal shows up. and. That's exactly what this is. This is it looks like a virus and he's like hanging out supposedly with the criminal element because he he he looks like he belongs there, but secretly he's informing. I mean literally informing the immune system. On viruses. It's a very I mean, it's it's like somebody really understood all that to to make that connection I. I was impressed with that, and then we head over to the hot new club in town visit. Which is where th- racks is set up shop. Ozzy and drinks go to the club. There's a dance sequence for absolutely no reason the performer. There is none other than Josie and kid rock themselves kid rock. Of course, Kidney, rock? Money's. Going by in time for all that the basically there, there's this is, is it that we alluded to earlier there's a big kind of shootout, but a stand off drake's blows. The place up Zip POPs. Frank shoots it on his The teachers face. Yeah. He was begging to be allowed to go along on the school field trip and then is it popped interface. We're we're making Bill Murray's character Frank Seamless contemptible than he is in the film. He's a truly rich person. He's yeah. He's very gross. Just I can't. I can't underline how the whole thing is very gross. I mean animated and live action scenes But I, they They do have like. When Osmosis Jones goes into the ZIP club. He disguises himself as a pathogen and it's still like the pliability of these cells that they don't really have one form of a lot of the time. They're not like perfect circles or oval or whatever we envision cells to be. They're SORTA GLOB globular right now and I thought that was Kinda cool like. To show the and later like he kind of at one point divides and reattach is himself. The animation is cool in that sense like you have a neat job with the aesthetics of making the the organic stuff is all very like. But. anything sort of inorganic has sort of. cooler retro-futurism. kind of like. Curve lines and clean and futuristic looking at state. They have a, they have a scene where As of Jones, accidentally shoots his whatever I don't know what the weapon is supposed to be whatever it is. Yeah. and instead of hitting the germs, he's chasing. He hits a nerve and it causes a cramp because the nerve continues to fire over and over again contracting. The. Muscle. And causing a cramp and I thought that was again like the there are parts of this. That's that was also weird to me about it like there are parts of this that are like, oh, that's a useful analogy to teach somebody about some part of how the human body works, and then other times a cold a cold pill blows up progress made, and that's mixtures. It's explode. Or like or they have, there's pollen is a big theme Frank is allergic to pollen, and so pollen can be used at any time to make him sneeze. and. So like people have pollen and they can just deploy it as as needed. But like at one point that's represented by like a dam that's holding back snot breaking gross was just discussing accurate So basically ozzy gets fired and jerks quits because the it explosion causing such kerfuffle. And the one joke that I did enjoy drinks is forced to leave the body on a bus that says, it's headed the bladder because. He's going to get pete out. Yeah, which I enjoy. Because he is just A. Twelve hour pill. So he's got to move on. and Ozzy is is They go into a This is Kinda of NEAT. They go into A. Movie, theater to sort of like while away the time. They think Jerry drax is dead by the threats is dead by the way. tracks from the galaxy racks is dead from they blew him out with the. Yep. So the ozzy goes to the the movies and movies. Are you see the posters on the wall as he walks in and one is like the exam? The other is your worst nightmare, which is his daughter marrying Chris. Elliott. Character one is. That girl at the bus stop and it's just dreams basically is the is the movies that are playing for the different cells like dreams that he's having. Can I just say to we kind of skimmed over this part, but you get some back story on Osmosis Jones as the two are talking throughout the film and I. This was also I thought kind of funny thing to he talks about his ancestors coming over on the umbilical cord. which I mean. That's accurate. Yes. Well. I mean, in a sense, they literally come through the. Gore. But you know what? I mean like all the cells are ancestors of the original cells. Or you're all the cells came from the ancestor cells. That yeah. I mean like that I thought that was kind of clever They talk about he is a white blood cell and he talks about his time growing up. In somewhere in the GI tract and. sensibly. He could have come from lymphatic tissue somewhere. They're like, I don't know there's just. Like that, that are quite accurate which is what makes as we're getting towards the end of the film here. So frustrating. drax dry. It is not drax threats reemerges and Ozzy realizes that because he sees the theater catching on fire and. Thus begins these strangest. Like twenty minutes conclusion to a film, I mean absolutely buckwheat. So okay. On the threats end of things, let me handle the tracks NFL can. Stuff I have expertise. Yes. This is where this is like I have said this is part of a bother me three axes goal was to kill frank faster than he killed his previous victims up to make it into the medical textbooks. So. He gets to the way he does this is he gets to the hypothalamus. Medical expert like Guinness. Right, like you worry about the one that kills people the fast. That's exactly. So he gets to the hypothalamus with the with his goal is if I can break it open. And steal a it looks like a giant circulating piece of DNA like giant double helix. But like it's the same size as a larger than the cells themselves. So like we're already DNA like well, but we're already at meaner Fi meaner. Yeah. But like no, but the DNA is larger than the cells. So it doesn't make sense just a metaphor. Metaphor, right? Like we've, we've left the realm of these are these are supposed to actually represent things that are happening in the body, and there's just this giant piece of DNA, he breaks it open and steals a bead. From DNA, adds it to his beat of other people he's killed. Two chain of other people killed and he takes off, and then the body starts heating up. and. The way he escapes then is once again, he deploys pollen makes Frank Sneeze. Gets shot out of his mouth with the sneeze and onto his daughters I. Yes. Now, at this point in the live action some where has franken did up in the hospital? Yes. Frank was going on his wing trip with his buddy Chris Elliott because he was demanding that his daughter go with him to a wing show and his daughter was like I. Really Want to go camping and you're just you're really letting me down nonstop dad I'm not going with you. So Frank and Chris Elliott are drinking and driving and going to a wing show in buffalo when frank like passes out because he has one hundred and six degree fever? Yes, he's incredibly hot. He goes to the hospital and just by chance his daughter school bus happens to be passing while he's pulled off the side of the road at school bus stops the daughter see. So she jumps in the car with Chris Elliott right and they drive to the hospital to this is how the daughter ends up there. And so he sees them a daughter So. Ozzie and Basically. Like doing battle on the eyeball of the daughter Ryan onto her eyelash, I wanna be clear about this. In this movie, we were watching the two leads are now battling on the Ibe Lash of another character in the movie. Meanwhile. Bill Murray. Legally dies. Yes. Lay. They are quoting him doctors doing everything. They can say it's like a fairly into his he dies why his daughter Look Song. Yes. His temperature twenty eight for for some reason they have decided like the moment has temperature hits. One, zero eight. That's it. Bam. He dies and his heart stops and. By the way his heart stops. Well, I won't get into nothing that they're doing to respond to. This makes any sense. Let me just say that they're just like bagging him and begging them and begging him. But no one has done anything about his rhythm at any point. What I'm saying is there running the code. Wrong. But well, that's true. And then he flat lines in there like. Dead. I'm calling it and it's like we've done anything. They do well. Okay. To See. So He osmosis Jones gets the DNA be. Back from threats. And then. It. Basically a false eyelash rips off his daughter's face with. Still, clinging to it, and it falls into a cup of alcohol. And kills threats again of an extremely. Ghoulish fashion. Well, it's important that at any code, you have a tray with a giant. Glass, jar of rubbing alcohol on it to store the eyelashes to story the eyelashes from the daughter of the guy who just let die because you didn't know how to run a code. So he's got the beaten for some reason. If you can return the bead to frank, frank will be fine. The daughter is crying over the dead body of. The daughter is crying her the daughter. We're talking like probably what thirteen I mean. She's a kid. Yeah, she's crying or many younger I was thinking more like eleven or twelve. She's crying over the dead body of her father and in what is presented as like climactic. Action moment and she's apologizing saying I'm so sorry, I said. Thank you. I said about mom, it's not your fault that mom died. She sang to Bill Murray who has died has died. It's all I. Mean. It's it's. Gruesome it's it's Lucent Hulas. Yes. It's a gruesome moment. I. Mean. It was a it was really as we washing. I thought. I'm glad that my children have already lost interest in this film and are playing together behind the couch. Because if they saw this, it would be upsetting but I don't have to shield them from it because they have no interest in this movie, anymore hops into the tier and rides tear into frank's mouth. Again, the action climax of this film is a thirteen year old girl crying magical tears into the mouth, the open mouth or father's corpse. That's how the movie ends. Audiences, stand up and cheer, and then she and then so he's real. He replaces the DNA bead in the hypothalamus and. And then he looks like. Nobody's doing anything by the way the doctors are walking away. Everybody has given up. They've let they've let it go. And you see coming back. Yeah. Well, you see the pulse start up again, be be beat. And then his temperature starts dropping. Do they monitor temperature like that? Like they have a temperatures dropping one of seven point eight, one of seven point six like well, they have like this you can. You can do that. But that's not the I. Don't know why you would do that in this situation, and there's also I think you'll notice where is the thermometer I? Don't know because they say they have a constant temperature meter on him where there watching his temperature drop point by point by point, but it's not in his mouth. It's not in his ear, it's not taped to his head. It's not under his arm. Does he have a rectal thermometer in? I feel like they would made a joke about it. But yeah, they wouldn't have left that on the table, but he'd be. Yeah. So anyway, he miraculously comes back from the dead. Thank goodness. I do WANNA. Point Out Do want to point out the at one point. Ozzie Jerks, chasing threats and tricks authorizes that must be headed towards the Viola. And Australia's says, what's the villa? In Jerk says, it's the small dangling thing that an Osmo says the boxer shorts. Okay. On headed there. And says, no, not that small dangling thing. I thought that was a little racy for kids movie, but I did get good chuck there there are. A lot of moments where it's not like I mean. I'm not prudish about that stuff, but there are a lot of moments where I thought. Okay. Well, this really clearly isn't aimed. At as young as like that, that joke was aimed at a little kid like that was a Fart joke. There are lots of those kinds of jokes. There are lots of poop and fart jokes. There are lots of moment spent in the colon for the sake of being in the colon. And laughing about it There are lots of those kinds of things and then coupled with of a very lake up setting scene of a young girl's father dying in the Bill Murray's stubbornly upsetting for all of us, but he lives. He's okay. They're seen hiking together at the end and a carrot that's very triumphal moment, and also the mayor accidentally makes him far any far. So armee blows the mayor out of his but. That happens said that while the mayor's lost his job, there's I guess a new mayor and and then there was a spinoff apparently, I ozzy andrex coming I ask Charlie when the movie was over if she liked it and she said, no. Charlie doesn't mince words now. I didn't like it and I said, what do you think would have made it better and she said? if it were, you know more lake on normal movie. There it is. Folks not be as one of the stranger films. I've seen two times technically, one point, eight times. I. Guess if you count the NAP. But It is wild. I don't think you should see it. You probably don't need to see it. A lot of snow and I, I would say there are a little moments in their the. It's such a shame that in a in the movie that I, I can't say I enjoyed that there were moments like the vaccine analogy and many of the things that the white blood cells due to fight infection and to ward off disease, and that kind of thing and I. It's all very clever. It's all very like there are moments where you could really tell somebody thought about it and a real creative brain put those ideas together and the visuals are pretty grotesque, but I mean the inside of human. Bodies Pretty Gucci. So. You know. But I don't know overall. No Stars. Sir, thank you so much for listening and at one more time this literally our last one of the year. Thank you for listening and thank you for supporting us in the maximum fund drive our last week of the drive as I said, it's your last chance to get on board if you want the gifts. Oh, that's right. There are gifts. You can pledge five dollars a month, you get a over two hundred hours of bonus content from all your favorite Max von shows ten. Ten Bucks, you get all the bonus content plus you get a beautiful pin from the show of your choice. Ours. Says, homeopathy means pretend it's on a at picture of Unicorn. They're all the designs by mainland caught. They are beautiful. 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April 11, 2019: Hour 2

"Support for here. And now comes from ember wave presenting this message ember wave, the revolutionary new personal thermostat ember. Wave is designed to make you comfortable in any environment. Learn more at ember wave dot com and use the code NPR to save fifty dollars at checkout from NPR and WR are I'm Robin young. And I'm Lisa Mullins. It's here. And now we're going to start with the department of Justice announcement today that it's filed charges against WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, the charges came just hours after Assange was arrested in London. He was forcibly led from Ecuador's embassy in London. He's been living there in exile. For nearly seven years NPR national security editor Phil Ewing joins us from Washington high fill. So the charges are for conspiracy to commit computer intrusion. And they are connected to leaks from army private Chelsea Manning back in twenty ten so it's helpful to remember that there is actually through lined from Chelsea Manning to Julian Assange. To the Democratic National Committee all the way to Robert Muller's investigation. How did we get from there to here? Well, what we know today is that back in that previous life in two twenty ten then army private Bradley Manning as she as she was at the time gave to WikiLeaks a great deal of classified material from the US government. The defense department the department of state which WikiLeaks then released to great reception around the world to great criticism to great acclaim because it revealed the practices of the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan in reveal the practices of diplomacy by the United States around the world. There were many cable sent from American embassies and other diplomatic posts to Washington and back. And so we learned a ton of material about the conduct of American officialdom from a manning and WikiLeaks, and it put a Sanjin WikiLeaks in a position of being these arbiters of classified information, WikiLeaks steal secrets as tagline was at the time and the ROY. Russian government. According to special counsel, Robert Muller, tried to take advantage of that a evidently independent imprimatur that WikiLeaks gave to the release of leak materials in two thousand sixteen as part of its campaign to interfere in the US presidential election. What prosecutors have said is that the Russian intelligence agency the jar you stole a whole bunch of data from political targets in the United States, including the leadership of the Democratic Party, the leadership of Hillary Clinton's campaign gave it to Julian Assange WikiLeaks, then released it to cause great disruption in the United States and that brings us up to today. Okay. With the Muller investigation. The full Muller investigation yet to be released. But clearly this is all going to be playing into what happens as a result of the release in the best degration back today while back to what happened in London Ecuador's embassy gave Assange asylum back in twenty twelve at the time Sweden wanted him on rape and sexual assault. Charges Sweden has since rescinded that arrest. But the US does want him has charged him with conspiracy. What do you make of those? Chico charges. The substance of the charges in the indictment unsealed today is that Assange worked with manning to violate the security of US government, computer systems, and specifically there's some details about how Assange might have helped manning with lyrics or with the cracking of passwords to get access to the material that WikiLeaks later obtained in released a prosecutors may have made that choice because there's been a great deal of debate about Assange and WikiLeaks and about whether he is a journalist and whether WikiLeaks is a media organization and accordingly whether they benefit from in the United States the first amendment and in the rest of the world of various nations laws that protect press freedoms. The Justice department appears to have decided to try to sidestep that and make this comp- this case against Assange, not about the publication of information. But about the way in which it was obtained in other words, he allegedly helped manning hack US government, computer system, that's against the law. And that's the sub. Silence of this indictment went Chelsea Manning was with the US military. So the United States the Justice department wants Assange extradited to the us if if that does happen if he is tried here. What information could he provide that investigators are looking for? That's a great question and one other thing that is not clear is whether this will be the end to the charges. Brought by the Justice department against the Sange. There's been a lot of indications about a lot of work behind the scenes by investigators involving him in his case. And in fact, Chelsea Manning herself is in custody today from what we understand because a grand jury in the eastern district of Virginia is working on some kind of case that we believe relates to WikiLeaks and Assange on manning declined to testify before that grand jury, even though she'd been served with a subpoena and a judge sent her to jail for her refusal to do so, but that suggests that there could be another indictment or a superseding indictment involving Assange at some point in the future. That might bring a case that relates to the two thousand sixteen election and Fearance in addition to the. One that prosecutors already have made related to those twenty ten of alleged offenses that involve the computer hacking from Bradley Manning at the time and the release of the US government information fill President Trump has weighed in today. He at one time said he loved WikiLeaks. That was when the organization was leaking information about Democrats before the election you referred to that today, though, the president said I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It's not my thing. His secretary state Mike Pompeo, though, when he was director of the CIA called WikiLeaks, a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia, so if Assange comes to the United States, how can we expect the Trump administration and the department of Justice to handle this case, it's going to be a very interesting storyline. What the president seemed to be saying the White House. This morning was that he hasn't been involved with whatever date is a decisions are being made at the Justice department about this particular case, the president said that what happens next we'll be up to the attorney general. Bill bar suggesting that he hasn't been involved or he might not have been read in before the fact when these events took place this morning, we don't know the backstory yet in terms of what has been taking place behind the scenes, but there could be a little bit of political awkwardness as you suggest because in two thousand sixteen Trump and his supporters were great fans of Assange and WikiLeaks separate and apart from the way, they according to their argument obtained the material that they released but for the substance of what it contained and Trump's point. Always was who knows how Assange got the material. We now know he got it from Russian cyber. But look at what it says it revealed the clubbiness between reporters and Clinton's campaign leaders, for example, it revealed the way Democrats at the top of the party leadership. We're talking about the way they wanted the nomination to work that was very helpful for Republicans at the time. The question now is what will the president what will make it? When others say if Assange comes to the United States and actually stands trial in open court. Thank you NPR, national security, editor fil Ewing. Thanks again. You. You. Well, the check in now on the twenty twenty presidential race and Andrew Yang who may be one of the democratic hopefuls. You don't yet recognize he wants to decriminalize possession and use of small amounts of non prescribed opioids lower the voting age to sixteen. He says all Americans eighteen and over need, a raise young is basing his entire campaign on this universal basic income and he's testing his so-called freedom dividend by giving a family in New Hampshire. A thousand dollars a month. No strings attached for all of two thousand nineteen. He's getting attention. Here's New Hampshire. Public radio's Robert Grover two years ago. Charles Fassi of goff's town, New Hampshire lost his job as a manager at a company that services chemical dispensing equipment. He says he'd worked there for thirteen years. And then I, you know, I was just know suddenly let go, and you know, I it it. It felt like, you know, it was definitely connected between automation and company. He's kind of putting less value on human capital. I would say his wife Jodie says the loss of income came at a really hard time for the rest of the family, including their daughter Jin now who was going into refreshment year at a private college. He lost his job like August eleventh. And she was starting college that week she had to we had to set up our dorm. I actually had this house on the market. I had his car sold. I mean, I just went into protective mode of okay? Well, what do I need to do to keep her in college journal was the one who put her family in the running for the dividend from the presidential candidate, Andrew Yang? She filled out an online form last year and her family was interviewed by Yang. But they got the call. They've been picked for the bonus. Jodi says Charles was stunned, and he actually ended up crying because he felt like we didn't deserve it. You know, he just that's my husband when Yang was in New Hampshire last spring. He explained why he's doing this. The goal is to illustrate the impact that one thousand dollars a month can have on a family or household here in New Hampshire. And putting my money where my mouth is the idea behind Yang's freedom dividend is nothing new. It's his take on what's known as universal basic income or the idea that everyone gets a set amount of money from the government tech executives. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk have expressed interest in the concept and Stockton, California. Just became the first US city to provide universal basic income or UB I to some residents here Stockton mayor Michael tubs five hundred dollars. No strings attached idea to have a conversation about the economic system of this country politicians in New Hampshire more likely to up play the state's booming economy than question it altogether. Charles Fassi says while he's got a new job. He says he's making a lot less than before he stopped markets. All businesses raking in profit, people are struggling more and more every day, the fancy family hasn't figured out. Exactly what they'll do with the extra income Jodie says, she can think of a few things just the basic security of having a little extra money that if a car breaks our credit card, we can actually. Pay daughter Janelle says she thinks of it like an education fund. It's kind of like a scholarship in a way, especially for college students and troll says it's making him think a little more creatively. Even you know, we were talking about starting a business, you know. And you know, I, you know, hopefully, we can try to do something good with the money in that year to improve the lives of it. The fetchy family says Yang hasn't asked them to provide any plan on how they'll spend the money, but is the idea of a candidate giving money to a potential voter to be considered vote-buying northwestern Pritzker school of law. Professor Michael Chang says because there isn't seemed to be a quid pro quo arrangement here, it should be legal as far as I can tell from the facts, there's no there's no agreement that they're going to vote, and they didn't say how they're going to vote or anything like that. It doesn't seem to me to to to raise a vote buying concern. The campaign says they spent a lot of time with her attorneys checking on the legality of their plan. And it's their understanding that the dividend complies with election law. The New Hampshire attorney general's. Office says there are currently no complaints against the campaign for here. And now, I'm Robert Arava fascinating. We'll see how that plays out. Poor Emily Dickenson writing her little poems on the back of gingerbread recipes in her bedroom in Amherst, Massachusetts, hoping no one would ever see them or her a spinster recluse an apparition flitting about in white while her brother Austin and his wife sue entertain next door. Emily. Poor thing was a shriveling stern-faced wallflower not in the new film wild nights with Emily Dickenson, played by Molly, Shannon, is a woman desperate to be published passionate for her work as she tells Atlantic monthly editor Thomas Higginson played by Brett Gilman. If I feel physically like the top of my head is taken off. I know that as poetry if it makes my body so cold, no fire can never warm me. I know that is poetry. Oh, an her. Speaking is poetry, except he doesn't get it. Read your poems. So many of them make me feel unclear I believe poetry should Lee. View with a trembling sensation. But when I read your poetry mystic concen on the feeling. I'm not sure what. Well, Emily Dickinson is also passionate for her. Lifelong love her aforementioned brother's wife, sue, a childhood friend who conveniently married him. So that she and Emily could live next door to each other and carry on there, then forbidden love, and guess what? This is all just about true. Well, nice with Emily star. Molly, Shannon, joins us from the impair studios in New York. Hi there. Hi, robyn. And she is with her friend since their days at NYU writer director, Madeleine Olmec Madeline. Welcome to you as well. Thank you so much and Molly wanna start with you. Did you know about Emily's airbrushed history? No, you know, I like a lot of people just grew up with that notion that she was a very frightened woman who spoke to people through walls with no desire to have her voice heard in her lifetime wanting. Poetry's burned upon her death. So I have to be honest. I wasn't that interested in her. I was like, ooh. And then Madeline, and I with this movie really wanted to tell the truth about her life that these notions that we have about her just are not true, we'll Madeline you've said, you were an English major in college. And didn't even know a Dickinson was a lesbian poet. Why is this story important for people to know that she did wanna be published that she did have passion? One reason it's important for me as she's held up as one of our country's greatest poets and a lot of people look to her and they look to how she lived to give them a path. What was interesting was that after the first book of Emily Dickinson's poems came out, and this was in the eighteen nineties women just started showing up at the Dickinson. Homestead and asking is this where the lady poet lived because they wanted to look and see literally how did she live that she was able to create these great poems? How did she do it? Right. But it's also important because we're having a cultural moment, I think since the election of Donald Trump were willing to acknowledge as society that we're all paying a real price for not having truthful and genuine images of women and a lot of that happens in history. How histories have been erased of women by restoring Emily. We understand so much about what her journey was like as a writer, and she becomes. Is an actual person to us as opposed to omit a very twisted. Yes. Meth will. And you say part of the problem is that the the image. That was given a was someone who didn't want her work to be published? A kind of kept her head down was a good little girl didn't claim her stuff as being any good. And of course, that's not true at all. And that's not the message that you want to send a young woman. So let's explain right at the start what scholars now think happened here, and I will listen to another scene because the centerpiece of your film is Emily's passionate relationship with sue her sister-in-law Susan Gilbert played in the film by Susan Ziegler in this scene. Emily asked Susan to be more careful about their relationship with listen. I have to be more careful. You are the one who writes the poems puts it in ink. Sue forevermore, you think that has another meaning sue forevermore speaks to the larger audience. So there's Emily trying to say not speaks to the larger. And you know, it does. It's too soon. But there was another woman that began having an affair with Austin. Emily's brother sue's husband, her name is Mabel, and she's the one who takes over the letters and poems of Emily Dickenson after she dies and literally a races the SU she also often when she would come across a word. She didn't like an Emily's poems. She would just change that word, and she put titles on the poems and Emily dishes, never one entitled. Yeah. Yeah. Now science is allowing us to understand new things about historical figures with their spectral graphic technologies which is used to examine the erasures that were in her poems that sues name was actually erased. And so it just teaches us all this stuff. Now that we might not have known about some great historical figures. Yeah. We'll Molly, Shannon. You have to play her in the film as both narratives both Emily Dickinson. One as seen through the eyes of Mabel later as she went on the speaking tour and was telling people about the Emily Dickinson that was the recluse and we see flashes to you in this with the stern face. And then the other Emily Dickenson. It's revealed by these letters in, you know, in this fun passionate relationship with SU there's moments like she comes in and tell sue, you know, I just haven't been able to write any poems have been able to work. And then she starts pulling them out of her hair. Parts of her dress where they're all over her on. These little scraps of paper talk about you know, how you wanted to be Emily Dickenson. How'd you how you wanted to embody her? I think she was so hungry to be published. You know, it's important to shed light on the fact that Emily Dickinson was a super gifted writer who was experiencing rejection at many levels. So this could now serve as an empowering role model to modern female writers with similar struggles. Currently she was really actively, you know, making little poetry books meeting with Higginson just really hungry to get published, but this image that we had of her as if she was a frightened woman who spoke to people through walls is just not correct. And I think the idea that we have of her that she didn't want to be published. Sabotages women today who are struggling to get their voices heard. When in reality, she's a real LGBTQ role model trailblazer hero will. And I thought of you because. First of all, we know you from not just your films, the comedy, divorced the drama other people, but of course, Saturday Night Live, and there's one moment where your character. Emily Dickinson is meeting with the Atlantic editor in her sitting room. And I swear, Molly, Shannon. I could see a glimpse of your cheerleader. That's so funny when she got excited, but also we know that the early days of SNL, it was tough for the women. I mean, most women no matter what field you've experienced this. But did you relate to it on that level? I really did Robin. When I first started SNL, I had cre- actually Madeline, and I went to NYU drama school together. And I created Mary Katherine Gallagher in an exercise Madeleine directed and wrote this show called the follies, and she was like just make up a character and computer door makeup any one, and I'm going to be this tough director, and I just made up. Hi, I'm Mary Katherine Gallagher. And that's how the character was created. So to make a long story short years later to I've been developing that character after NYU in St. Joe's, and then when I got to Saturday Night Live, I knew that character worked because identity estate show, but I was like trying to get it on air, and I would show the character to writers. And I show the sketch, and they go, you know, the reason this can't work. Is because this isn't really a joke. So I was a lot like Emily Dickinson. And then I brought it to another guy. And I said, I do this character my show, they it's not gonna work because of this. They ended up putting it in the show. But I think they didn't really know what it was going to be physically. So remember for the dress rehearsal? It was like at the bottom of the you know, they put for the dress rehearsal. They put the sketches they think are the hottest at the top. And then they put the stuff they're not as into at the bottom. So is at the very bottom, and I went on. And it went great it just went so well, and then I remember going to Lorne Michaels office between dress and air when you see what's made it onto the live show. You see the cuts, and then what's made it and Mary Katherine Gallagher got moved from the bottom of show to the top. Yes. So the scene where Emily is trying to sell herself to Higginson. Of course, I relate to that. I relate to her hunger. You know, she sitting ninety poems to Higginson who was the editor of the Atlantic monthly she made DIY poetry books. She sent a huge amount of work in the mail to the Roberts, brother. She was up against the male establishment, the oppressive sexist establishment. And so we really examined this sexism through the lens of comedy. Yeah. We'll two things. First of all, you went stay in your room. If that was happening to you, if you were Emily Dickinson, and you knew your Emily Dickinson. Most of your stuff wasn't getting published and ladies and gentlemen, we have just drawn the line from Mary Katherine Gallagher too. You know, hope is the thing with feathers, and I just. So we talk about what happened. But can we just take a second? Do you each have our their lines of hers, are you? They're having made the film is there, you know, poetry that just jumps to mind. I can wait grief whole pools of it. I'm used to that. But the least push door breaks up my feet, and I tip drunken let no pebble smile. Twas the new liquor that was all you must. Let me go first sue because I live in the sea always know the road. I would have drawn twice to save you sinking deer. If I could only have covered your eyes. You wouldn't have seen the water that is the most beautiful poem. That's my favorite. And that's Molly, Shannon, the star the Emily Dickinson in well nights with Emily. We've also viz making with writer director and molly's friend from NYU days, Madeline Olmec thank you so much. Can't wait to see what you goes through next. Thank you. This message comes from here. And now sponsor ember. Wave ember wave the revolutionary personal thermostat. That is designed to help you feel cooler or warmer at the press of a button ember wave can put you in control in places like you're freezing office uncomfortable. Airplanes, restaurants, trains, cafes and more named one of time magazine's best inventions of two thousand eighteen learn more at ember wave dot com and use code NPR to save fifty dollars at checkout ember wave control, your comfort, thousands of employees of Amazon or increasing the pressure on the company to double down on its commitment to fight climate change as of this morning, more than four thousand employees had added their names to a letter published on medium it asks CEO, Jeff Bezos, and the M's on board of directors to set a hard public timeline for goals such as cutting greenhouse gas emissions for more on that. Let's bring in Robyn Farzad, host of public radio's full disclosure. Hi, robyn. How are you? What exactly do the employee's want? Amazon to do for starters to stop provisioning companies that extract fossil fuels and the workers are also calling Amazon out on not having yet disclosed a company wide plan to reach zero carbon emissions within the timeline required by science on other thing another grievance was that Amazon was donating to sixty eight members of congress who voted against climate legislation. One hundred percent of the time. So these employees are really calling management out on this. So if they want reduced ways, for instance, I mean, probably many people listening in the audience will have received Amazon package may be in some cases, much larger than the item inside we can only imagine the kind of waste that is produced are the things that the employees are calling for possible on this scale, what they're calling for kind of, you know, shut it down right now provide this information right now, I don't imagine that it's available overnight company is huge Amazon could in theory, take the lead as the letter itself from the workers puts it, and I'm quoting Amazon has the resources. Scale to spark the world's imagination and redefine. What is possible necessary to address the climate crisis close coat, but then have competitor's pouncing on the businesses. You boycott oracle the tech giant advertisers against Amazon in the back of major magazines every week. We know the Chinese will work with anyone Amazon is a competitive in Hungary, behemoth that isn't about to lose business, and there is pressure. Because of this is the bigger story behind the letter late last year, a small group of Amazon employee filed what's known as an activist shareholder proposal describe what that is. And how that connects to the letter that we're talking about today. Yeah. I mean shareholder democracy in the United States is not the most defecation route. Oftentimes resolutions are non-binding, and you can never hope to get the tens of millions of shares worth of votes held by the huge index fund and mutual fund shops who most often they just end up rubber-stamping management and boards. But the the action that you saw with that letter. And what you saw today, they do get press notice, and there's sometimes the opening shot in a bigger movement. Esp? 'specially if a fun company or a bigger investor comes on board and says, yes, I'm gonna use my moral suasion to get what we want. Right. So it's becoming increasingly common for employees in the tech industry to get stock as part of their compensation, but how common is it for them to use their shareholder status in this way of exerting this kind of pressure not all that common. Just there's always fear of retaliation or running afoul of non-disparagement agreements that you you tied to your bonuses. I mean, initially when you signed at these companies, some outsiders derived this behavior as entitlement, the employees themselves correctly, they see themselves as both stakeholders and shareholders were building the code, for example, the programmers Amazon and don't want the fruits of our labor to go to industries or practices that we ultimately oppose. We only have a few probably about a half an offer this, but the proposal is lofty, but there are Amazon board members who say look a corporation sole purpose is not just to maximize provident anymore. That's inadequate. So does this stand a chance? Briefly. I mean for this to happen, you need mom and pop investors to start scrutinizing their portfolios, and then engaging with multi trillion dollar fund houses to use their suasion or else or this is really nowhere close to that. We're up and fires odd host of public radio's full disclosure. Thanks very much. My pleasure. The first blooms of spring are getting buried by snow in the central parts of the country. It's another bomb cyclone blizzard. This one hit the rocky mountains yesterday, and it spinning into the plains and midwest where meteorologists say wind gusts are reaching up to sixty miles an hour snowfall could be historic for this time of year. Jay Troutbeck is chief meteorologist at K E L O TV in Sioux Falls, South Dakota or Kello land as they call it in the five states. It serves J remind us we had another bomb cyclone in March. What is this thing? This thing is a big wet spring storm that's affecting most of this area in the upper mid west with a variety of weather issues. We have a blizzard going with lots of snow and wind in western central northeastern, South Dakota, the western Minnesota and southeastern South Dakota, north west Iowa, southwest Minnesota. We actually have an ice storm going on at the present time the rest of the area just playing lots of snow and lots of wit. It's not a great day to be outdoors. It's not and it's called a bomb. Cyclone? I think we will remember because of how quickly this pressure drops. Yes. And I mentioned before that we have the the center of the storm is kind of right where Minnesota Iowa and Nebraska, albeit with South Dakota right in that area. Where the center of the storm is in those areas that's will seen the thunder and the lightning at times. It's almost been like there a severe thunderstorm right in those areas. So we're seeing lots of icing in these areas as well with the strong. Winds. It's kind of odd situation. You look at some of the trees on the east side of trees, you'll see ice icicles hanging off the trees, and it's like the wind has pushed the flap the ice that's already occurred in those areas. A couple of things first of all listeners. We'd love to see pictures. You know, send him to our comments section to see how this is a checking you please here now dot org, but you mentioned the thunder. I know it's dangerous. But I just I love thunder snow. It's such a an odd apocalyptic feeling thing on. But this is I mean, this is serious officials of closed interstate eighty in Nebraska, you mentioned that area. You know, they're warning. It's going to be dangerous yesterday. We spoke to people in Iowa who are haven't gotten over the flooding from a month ago. And now they're worried about all of this melting and coming down again into their town, Hamburg, Iowa. So I mean, so many concerns what is your sense? I actually think that in some areas in where you are you went from. Seventy degrees to twenty degrees in just one day. What is coming? I mean, how much of the snow is going to melt. This thing is moving very slowly. I haven't endorsed west direct little odd. But what's going to happen here as we're just gonna get more snowfall? We expect the snow to continue the rest of the day and wind down from west to east during the morning hours of tomorrow. So a lot of folks are going to end up in the two foot range of snowfall and here in the the southeastern tip of South Dakota, wishing some decent icing. That's gonna be followed by the the rain changes over snow tonight. Fortunately, the weekend is looking dry a lot of folks could be spending shoveling well, and you you mentioned the ice with the snow on top of it. That's what led to so much flooding a few weeks back in parts of the country because the water had nowhere to go. But two feet two feet of snow and we've had snow. We're in New England. We've had snow in may. I mean, that's happened. But two feet of snow in April. Put this in context. Have you seen this? Yup. We kind of get these freak storms in April. Sometimes in fact, this is the week six years ago this week we had a devastating ice storm affecting many parts of South Dakota glutinous soup falls area one year ago this week. We had devastating blizzard. And I think right now, I'm going to bark my calendar. This week next year just plan on working this seems to be though week for big storms around here and just to for these people who are dreading the snow melt and the flooding that that will cause when do you expect the temperatures to go back up again will it's going to beat because we now have a snowpack undergrad it's gonna hold on our heating a little bit. We do expect to get into it leaves the thirties this weekend to get the slow snow melt going, and that's what you like you like to have a slow snow melt. And it does look like we have kind of that in the forecast, and well, we'll just deal with it. Hopefully, we'll get into some spring here because it has been a long Bravo winter around here. But you don't want it to fast because of the flooding. Jay Chou bec- a chief meteorologist, Ed Kellyanne TV in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Jay, thank you. My pleasure. We'll now let's chicken again on Mozambique. It's been nearly a month since the real cyclone eat, I brought torrential rains and strong winds to southern Africa killing at least eight hundred and forty seven people across mozambique-zimbabwe and Malawi massive floods just swallowed large swaths of land. And now there's the predicted shortage of food and the threat of even more disease as order cholera outbreak chance Briggs is the country director for save the children in Mozambique. He joins us now by Skype from the capital Makuto chance. Give us the thumbnail. The last time we checked there were still bodies floating. Terrible flooding what's going on the situation is still very very bad. And I think the southern hemisphere is never releasing something. Like this in a natural disaster. We estimate about two million people have been affected just in Mozambique of which one million children. We. Still have people who are surrounded by waters in their communities, but many others are just trying to pick up the pieces. We have one hundred thousand or more who were displaced and many of them are living in tented camps. But some are just set up at the side of the road with whatever they can find to cover their heads. It's really still a dire situation, we're worried, well, we understand the city of Barra was almost completely wiped out ninety percent of the city's infrastructure gone. So you've got to have a migrant refuse. Well, yes, beta took a very heavy hit. But I think I can say that the local authorities ending supported by the international community of done a great job in restoring electric and water and basic services basic infrastructure, the real problem in Beira, and as in many places across the whole zone where there were heavy rains is that the roofs would be pulled off the houses, and then people whose houses were made of mud. Bricks would literally see their houses melt in front of them. There were also falling trees and power lines. So there are many many risks endanger. Well, they also expect floods in that area. There's drainage canals retention systems wind as you say was the factual because it was a cyclone and so- roofs were ripped off doesn't seem like short of completely changing construction the country. You can do anything about that. Well, it's true. There are better ways to to construct, but it takes funds that most poor Mozambican families. Don't have in Mozambique is about the tenth poorest country in the world with fifty percent poverty rate. So that's a big challenge that this country will face as it continues to fix climate shocks with climate change making things worse. Well, yeah, there's that. So tell us what's happening with the cholera outbreak. So the caller outbreak is a big concern. But I'm happy to say that almost nine hundred thousand doses of vaccine have been administered over the past week. In addition, we and other agencies have volunteers going door to door to tell people about cholera to make sure that they understand how to prevent it. Because it's a very preventable disease with good, hygiene and good sanitation. In addition. Treatment centers are being set up. And we ourselves are setting up a cholera treatment unit. So that those who do come down with the disease can quickly get suitable treatment because it is a very treatable disease. How do you treat it basically, you get people oral rehydration? So you get water back into their their bodies. You get a bit of medicine if they need it, and they need rest and most people recover fine. It's it's the children and the elderly and people with other underlying medical conditions who are the most vulnerable. And they're the ones we need to get into the centers the soonest. I don't mean to be at all flip. But this storm. I mean, the pictures that we saw it's just devastating and not just Mozambique the UN counted at least two hundred and fifty who've died in Zimbabwe dozens of died in Malawi, you know, the body count continues in Mozambique. And yet it's almost like those. Those children's toys they stand up into a new knocked them they fold down. But they stand back up. He know and those this feeling that well, they will just stand back up. Do you ever have a sense that maybe a country can't get up from a hit like this will Mozambicans are very resilient despite their poverty. I do believe that the people in the country will pick themselves up with significant assistance from the international community. What I do have to say is that right now funding is the urgent need. There's a big appeal for funds, and we are probably only twenty one percent funded across the humanitarian sector, and if we don't get people quickly back on their feet now, they will have trouble recovering reconstructing their houses reconstructing their livelihood. Because most people are farmers here. They need to get back to their fields. They need seeds. They need tools and in the very very short term. They need food and they need shelter. We're working on that. But funds are what's lacking chance Briggs country director for save the children? In Mozambique chance. Thank you so much for bringing us up to date on really a month later, what horrendous situation there have to cycle an e died. Thanks so much. Thanks so much. Outsider art is having an in moment outsiders label given to self taught unconventional and often uncelebrated artists. But in recent months there have been exhibitions of outsider art at the Smithsonian American art museum in Washington. The Los Angeles County museum of art into lent is high museum of art while mainstream interest is on the rise. The genre has always been in the spotlight at Intuit the center for intuitive and outsider art it's a small gallery. Founded in Chicago in nineteen Ninety-one, and it's one of the few museums in the world dedicated solely to outsider art here. Now's Chris Bentley went there. Deb cars stands in an empty gallery. Her voice bouncing off freshly painted white walls. She's the executive director of into it. And she's helping setup for a new exhibit showing the work of Susan takeoff who wrong king. And she does these incredible drawings for sure deconstructs, a popular culture. So there's some deconstructed Donald duck's in some of her art. She is someone who is on the autism spectrum and she does not speak. But the arts speaks for her. I think in very powerful ways car says good art always speaks for itself. But outsider art is as much about the story of the artists behind it. As what's on the canvas outsider artists? Sometimes called folk artists are usually self taught and often have had to overcome some hardship to create and exhibit their work. He's are people who are so driven to create their compelled to create and without even having access to fancy our supply. Sometimes they create with whatever's to hand, this is art that. Really speaks to regular people. And they don't have to have any art background or training to be engaged with it. I mean, that's really, exciting and important. Take Henry darker, one of the John RAs best known names in January one of his works sold for nearly seven hundred thousand dollars at a Christie's auction in New York darker worked as a janitor condition. Kogyo hospital and spent his free time writing kind of graphic novel thousands of pages long and full of vibrant, watercolours depicting a fantastical battle between good and evil, but he was a reckless in his work wasn't discovered until just before his death in nineteen Seventy-three Intuit acquired much dodgers collection and even recreated the artists department inside their gallery in here. We are gonna take down the velvet rope. Invite you in in here, we are surrounded by the belongings of Henry darker. It's a small dimly lit room with doger's Remington typewriter and Victoria record player. There are a few tables piled high with bundles of old magazines. Boxes of Cran's and stacks have diaries. He was a trash picker. And there's a lot of stuff in here. I'm here you go. This is people are always weld by this. This is a small box filled with small rubber bands labeled small rubber bands. Here's another box filled with small rubber bands and over on his table. There's a book a box Ville of large rubber bands, Dargo never exhibited his work. And even if he had wanted to he might have struggled to find an outlet, but today because of museums like in to it it's easier for outsider artists to find an audience artists like Robert Johnson and e Knicks whose work is on display now the Chicago gallery, Nick says, he's always felt compelled to make art as far as I can remember I've always been making things of always done things with my hands. I've always drawn especially I don't have a formal education in art. So I kind of had to do this on my own through experimentation reading books, but a lot of experimentation a lot of. Tation Knicks apprentice does a blacksmith and uses those skills in multimedia sculptures that deal with themes of trauma and addiction his self portrait is a sculpture subtitled Pinocchio. It's made out of found objects old school chairs for legs nails hammered into shoulders and empty plastic bottles of methadone inside his torso. Knicks says he's never considered himself an outsider artist. But he's okay. With the label for me. It's not a powerful label. You know, does not something that moves me in either direction. But I have no no problem being considered outside artists. I'm considered an outsider everything else. Anyway. So why not add art to it? Another outsider artist. Robert Johnson is best known for his reverse oil paintings done unsalvaged windows. The other side, and then it's meant to be viewed from opposite side. And where do you find the windows? I phoned him all over Chicago mainly from buildings over being rehabbed just drive up, and it just give them away images of guns and bags of white powder. Evoked Johnson's past struggles with addiction his newer work is full of brightly colored skulls and grinding gears inspired by his time as an army mechanic in Iraq Johnson says making art is like a form of therapy. I can just empty my mind. I can forget about the stresses. I'm dealing with on a daily basis and open up. So it helps me manage all the jumble of thoughts in my head the anger and things like that. I can just put it out right into the canvas right into a piece like Nick's Johnson is also ambivalent about being labeled an outsider artists, but he says people in the traditional art world never really made him feel welcome. Oh you mitt into this gallery where were you school? And you've got your. I got my sculpting to grab my MFA had this. Well, okay. Is that does that, you know, lesson somebody who doesn't have that. I don't really think so but so far in our world. Unfortunately, that's the way it's been working. That's the way it's been working except in museums like in to it that blur the line between who's considered part of the art world and who's outside for here now on Chris Bentley? Here knows production of NPR WVU are in association with the BBC World Service. I'm Lisa Mullins. I'm Robin young. This is here now.

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11 Trivia Questions on SNL Sketches

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11 Trivia Questions on SNL Sketches

"Live from New York. It's Saturday night. Answer these eleven questions on. Snl sketches and see how much you remember from the seventies to now. This is trivia with buds. What it'd be. Welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds. Podcast I am your host Ryan Buds. They guy so much for listening to the show and thanks for leaving. I tunes reviews. We are up to two hundred and five of those so if you have not done so yet go on itunes and leave us a five star review. Tell us what you like about the show and help us get more eyes and ears on this daily podcast before we get in today's episode about SNL sketches. We are going to ask you three random questions from trivial pursuit pop culture edition from the early two thousands. And here's the first one. It is about a movie. What movie star. Paul Newman Melanie. Griffith Bruce Willis and Jessica Tandy and what would be her final role. What was that movie? The answer there was nobody's fool. That was the movie nobody's fool. Here's your next question about music. What fat boy. Slim song featured the chorus right about now the funk soul brother right about now the funk soul brother what song was that that was the Rockefeller Skunk the Rockefeller skinc. And your last question is buzz. Worthy hundred pursuit pop culture addition says what language does Lisa? Kudrow need to know to speak to her husband in his native tongue. The there is French. So Lisa Kudrow Her husband at least her husband back in the early two thousand spoke French. That was his native tongue. All right we are going to jump into some SNL TRIVIA. One of my favorite shows to watch on a nice Saturday evening. We are going to do some questions about sketches and characters and hosts and things like that so get ready for some fun eleven questions coming up right now here. We go all. Snl sketches number one. What ban is portrayed in the famous more cowbell sketch number one? What ban is portrayed in the famous more cowbell on? Snl number one question number two. What was the first music video dubbed as an SNL digital short in two thousand five was the first music video dub doesn't snl digital short in two thousand five question number? Three which cast member portrays Alex trebek's on the celebrity jeopardy sketches number. Three which cast member trays. Alex Trebek's on these celebrity jeopardy sketches number four. What job were Chris? Farley and Patrick swayze competing for in their famous sketch from the nineties. Number four what job where Chris. Farley and Patrick swayze competing for in their famous sketch from the ninety s and question number five what cast member then guest star won an emmy for her work. Portraying an Alaskan governor number five what cast member than guest star won an Emmy for her work portraying an Alaskan governor question number six. What two colors? Appear on Wayne's hat on the Wayne's world sketches number six what two colors appear on Wayne's hat on the Wayne's world sketches number six and number seven Bill Murray portrayed a character named blank the lounge singer number seven Bill Murray portrayed a character named blank the lounge singer number seven question number eight. What's the name of the soap opera where everyone talks about the best highways to take number eight? What's the name of the soap opera where everyone talks about the best highways to take and SNL sketches number nine just a few more questions to go Alec Baldwin and his sweaty balls appeared on an NPR type? Radio show called. What was the name of that show on? Snl and questioned Tan. When Tom Hanks Don's a full suit covered in Jack Lanterns his character's name is. What number ten when Tom Hanks? Where's that Jack Lantern Suit? What is the name of his character? Your bonus question for two points. The sketch to wild and crazy guys features brothers born wear number eleven for two points. The sketch to wild and crazy guys features brothers born. Wear two points if you get that one those are all of your questions for SNL sketches. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers. Don't break character. We are back with answers to SNL SKETCHES. Saturday night live through the ages. Let's see how you did number one. What Band is portrayed in the famous more cowbell sketch that is blue oyster cult? Blue Oyster cult shouted to my friend. Dave Nelson my friend Steve. Nelson's dad who used to blast. Don't fear the reaper on repeat when he worked on cars in the garage number two. What was the first music video dubbed as an SNL digital short in two thousand five? That was called Lazy. Sunday with Chris. Parnell and Andy Sandberg Number Three which cast member portrays Alex trebek's on the Celebrity Jeopardy Sketches Will Ferrell was the answer their number three will ferrell. These were some of the first video I downloaded on napster and lime wire. I guess it was probably just way. I don't think napster videos but lime wire could share videos before youtube and I used to download the celebrity jeopardy sketches. I loved him number four. What job were Chris? Farley and Patrick swayze competing for in their famous sketches. The nineties that was chippendales dancers chippendales dancers super shirtless and fun and crazy number five. What cast member then guest star won an Emmy for her work? Portraying an Alaskan governor. That was Tina Fey playing Sarah Palin Tina fey number six. What two colors? Appear on Wayne's hat on the Wayne's world sketches black and white. It's a white logo on a black hat. Wayne's world hat number seven Bill Murray portrayed a character named Nick. The lounge singer number seven. Nick the lounge singer number eight. What's the name of the soap opera where everyone talks about the best highways to take? That's the Californians number eight the Californians what are you doing here number nine Alec Baldwin and his sweaty balls appeared on. Npr style show called the delicious dish on a gas dire. And Molly Shannon. The delicious dish number ten. When Tom Hanks downs a full suit covered in jack-o-lanterns his character's name is what that's David S. Pumpkins David Pumpkins and the bonus for two points in the sketch to wild and crazy guys. The brothers in that sketch were born. Where Czechoslovakia Czechoslovakia at the time? Czechoslovakia so there. You guys those are all your answers four. Snl sketches thank you so much for plane today and I hope you had a good time playing along with some TV Trivia. We have millions of other episodes of TV Trivia if you like parks and rec if you like tales from the crypt. We've done all those things on the podcast. Just search for the show. You want and trivia with buds on Google. You should find it right away Question of the day is what state does frazier take place in? What State Frazier take place in? Tweet answer at Ryan. Buds or email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for a prize in yesterday's question. To answer was a gross divided by a dozen would be twelve because twelve times. Twelve is one forty four. That's a gross doesn't as well and the result there is twelve. Attributing name of the day is an American handmaid's tale five goes west and American handmaid's Tale. Five goes west sounds depressing and thank you so much for listening to the show. Thanks for telling a friend about the PODCAST. We'll see for MORE TRIVIA WITH BUDS cheers burn.

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