20 Episode results for "Mogi"

Feedback Friday: Reelgood

Feedback Friday by Really Good Emails

09:04 min | 2 months ago

Feedback Friday: Reelgood

"The. Happy feedback Friday everybody was a comeback Mogi and other amazing week here on feedback. Friday. Sweet really good emails in the House. This episode is sponsored by influence from subject lines, supreme header tax, called action, button, placement, email content, header images, and more. You contest up to five versions of an email with influence marketing platform get a demo at the link below that. helbig. I've been using the real good to kind of track some shows and see what's out there on the streaming services. And Dude I just love these emails I think for a dark theme email, they're just killing it. It's going across some of these things that I really enjoy the most, which is one live taxed woods oop But then also not everywhere like this is an image but you know they do cover it a lot and what they are doing really well is keeping the design system really tight see how consistent these fonts are see how consistent the layout is giving me this very clear sort of movement about what real good does for me. So Hey. Service on one APP. All right. Let's see what this is about. I WanNa know and then I can see what's playing and I can go watch it one learn more they dive me in they give me this thing and then they tell me okay sweet I can add this to my smart TV and so this is a way for an email group to be able to lead and tell a story to An audience and I really liked that, yeah, I, think that the neon green on black kind of gets a bad rap sometimes but I think it works pretty well here and I like how they're adding an icon to the CPA I've seen some brands to of distinguish by adding an icon on their seats to give you heads aware they're taking you. So maybe they're trying to do something like that with this. My only critique really on that bottom block section it. It feels like a little bit too tight to locked up when you're playing like sorta badges I always sort of expect them to be click. -able individually and I don't know. I really sure that they are in this case I think I would maybe try to frame that in maybe a different way. But sure they use a gradient is kind of interesting to maybe. Bring your eye down to the bottom of the emails. Well, yeah. Cool. Let's jump into the next one. So now this is partly just saying Hey hoopla is on you know real. Good. So if you're not familiar who blood's pretty Rad, it's like the ability to. watch a video listen to a book I think even read some books using your library card, which is super tight. So That's pretty neat that you could then watch it on your TV. You know not just your device and being able to see that. So they're saying hey HOOPLA is now on real good. We just made this new feature and I can add Hoopla or I can discover what's on. Hoopla I can see what is who played in case people don't know which is smart and then cool i. can you know get the real good APP if you're not already familiar if you haven't taken the plunge so I think you know this is a good way to get it done like there's very little that needs to be in this email and they've covered their grounds here. Really well, one thing I'll say. typographically that I don't love this a little bit challenging is I. See a lot of brands doing this right here. It's a hard one to solve for, but it's a centered heading with left-aligned copy typographically that that just doesn't work what works is centered aligned heading with like blocks of content like this or if you centerline and you have a block of content like this, it takes up the full width. What doesn't? Work is when you have what's called rag right when this is over here, it creates a an unsettling feeling. So it's a nerdy typographical thing but I wouldn't do it. So instead what you can do is make this heading left align put it over here and then put a rule like a line essentially dividing these or you can change the color of the background between these sections the other thing you could probably do. This is a little bit long to center the text if you could shorten it up to just three lines, then you could have just centered that Texan would feel great. Just a small thing. I like how they're mirroring what I think. The APP probably looks like with these sort of cards I sort of feel native and I feel like if I got this in my inbox, it would sort of. Stand out to me with the different colors and I wonder what what is Hoopla if that deserves its own little SORTA card or it? If it's better as like a subtext, I'm not really sure. I think it was still is okay as a subtext because it's not. I mean focus it's not really click -able and with these cards I kind of feel like they're almost more like really big. You can tap them. Yeah. Interesting and also here's another one discover what's on Hoopla That they actually show you some of what's there instead of just saying discover what's on hoops I think that's really a smart play, right? Oh. Rick and Morty like I want to I want to watch that show it's hilarious and I can watch it for free. All right. One more on the series again same thing. So peacock this time again, we can add peacock we discover what's there we can discover what's on peacock premium right so apparently that's a different level, and then again they use the same you know what is peacocks same issues as the one before but you know I think that this is working pretty well, and you just see you know from one set to the other like how flexible this template set is or really I would like to think of it more as like a design system that is working really well where you have these different blocks that really translate well across a grouping. So what would you change about this email if you could feel like it almost needs like a solid white t. t a similar here sometimes I feel like when people expect you to click on something, it's not abundantly clear and I think these outlines and How they look like cards SORTA look like they're tap. Especially on mobile but I think when you get to desktop sometimes I just feel like if people don't have a real defined see ta or c. t. a copy, some people might get lost. So see white CTA or Catchall and I feel like some of these links especially in the what is peacock even sure if there are links but it is getting a little hard to read on this contrast overall. I think you're right that the template is pretty flexible in Nice to nice little product update and they don't really waste any time the Kinda get right into it. I was GONNA say that they might be using rounded corners on their CTA's to really drive hard the idea of CTA but they've got rounded corners on these boxes although this box is a CPA that you can click, which is interesting that was. Not what I would have expected, and then this one it looks like the whole thing is applicable. So that's another thing that you can do. I would say they're being just slightly confusing here like this is the main seat Ta and then to your point, they do wrap this in green to maybe make it the focus but these are wrapped in other colors but they're using rounded corners but sometimes what? You can do is you can use just some consistent unique symbolically to say this is the C. Ta like on Brooks that we did last week it was always blue almost every single ct that I think I remember seeing was blue and so that was the consistent thing where as for real good here it feels like generally they're trying to say anytime that you see a big rounded block or a green. Ta those of your clinical spaces but I think that they could drive that home a little bit harder learning the design language learning the visual language. So cool. Well, this was a good set. I'm into what they're doing anytime. We focus on a brand hey, real good team. Let us know how things are performing. What are you learning we would love to learn from you. We'd love to share that with our audience. Loved the product that you're building and hope everybody is having a great time. In life despite the challenges I hope everybody's Stan Safe. We Love Y'all we hope you're just thriving despite it. All all right everybody. Have a great one out there. We'll see you soon zero blind. Thanks again to influence for sponsoring this. Book Your Demo with the link in the video description looking for more email inspiration, get access to the world's best emails from the most successful companies up your email game by collecting, organizing, and sharing your favourite emails with your team.

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1185: Daily Reminders by Mogie Adamchik of Appalachian State University (Student Essay on Self Help Experiment)

Optimal Living Daily

05:34 min | 1 year ago

1185: Daily Reminders by Mogie Adamchik of Appalachian State University (Student Essay on Self Help Experiment)

"This is optimal. Living daily episode eleven eighty five daily reminders by Moggi, Adam check, and I'm just a Malik welcome old friend, and I say old because oh L D stands for optimal living daily and like a few days ago. I have another special episode for you. I typically read from blogs, but I'm bringing you a couple of excellent student essays from Dr Chris patties class at Appalachian state university a red one a few days ago. Today's comes from Mogi Adam chick a sophomore at Appalachian state majoring in advertising, she's on the golf team. And in her free time, she loves to hike and travel after graduating she aspires to make ads for the Gulf industry and inspire. More people to take up the sport. I'll have her contact info. In this episode subscription at old podcast dot com. Buffer now get right to her essay and continue. Optimizing your life. Daily reminders by Moggi? Adam check, my Larne goes off at seven thirty A M. I flip over my phone to shut it off. And there's a reminder. No, you're worth nine AM usually sitting in class. Another reminder don't settle for less than what you deserve ten AM. You are strong. These are a few of the reminders I get on my phone throughout the day. I've been doing this since last summer, and it's made a big difference. I have to think one of my close friends from golf Haley, what NAS key who shared this idea with me as something. She does to build confidence. You notice a small and simple idea? I thought it was we're sharing with others to reminders can serve as that first step towards a deeper appreciation for ourselves after Haley shared his idea with me, I put off implementing it because I'm honestly thought it sounded silly. And really wouldn't make a difference. Now. I can gladly say. I was totally wrong. It really does make a difference gnome. Matter where you are in life during the school year of life gets really busy. Maybe you can relate. I'm a student athlete on apps states golf team balancing, twenty hours a week of practice. Traveling a full course load and a social life can wear me down. And make me forget, I'm human. I'm nineteen trying to build doors today. So I can open them tomorrow. I go from one assignment to the next one task to another hustling here and there, and it's too easy to get lost in the shuffle. One thing that brings me back is my habit of daily reminders, these reminders can act as African nations of one's life goals and personal story. If I goal is to win a conference championship. I set a reminder. I am the sun belt individual champion, my brain sees it so many times that it learns to accept it as reality. Then when I'm in that situation, I've already become comfortable with myself in that identity. It helped me visualize success and take down mental barriers obviously deal. Reminders can go much further than sports of apply them to relationships. Presentations and self worth a couple of weeks before I had to give a big presentation for a class. I added a reminder, you are an excellent speaker and another you got this is important to recognize how these little things can really change your attitude during the day at three PM. I get an essential reminder. I love you, this may seem minor or cheesy. But I can't tell you how many times I felt discouraged because of the stresses of the day when I see the self affirmation. It makes me smile. I love you Mogi, you're going to do this. You're already crushing it. Stay strong power through skin to be alright. Clog work reminders helped pull me out of whatever. Funk. I'm in and draw. Me back to the present. It's a reset and reassurance. We know we have people on our team in life. But they might not know where we are. Or how we're feeling in addition to reaching out to those who support us we can build and practice the habit of becoming our own best allies. We know what we need and. What means a lot to us? This is a lesson in self love is crucial to respect ourselves. Once we're comfortable with who we are confident in our abilities. This is when we can best bread positively and love to the people around us. I believe that we have a responsibility as humans to grow. And why not try something so simple, if we have the chance to better ourselves, I strongly encourage you to pull out your phone and set a daily reminder he can start right now, which just one make it as bold or subtle as her comfortable with if you have a meeting with your boss, maybe you can remind yourself that are confidence and won't be intimidated. If you have a presentation, perhaps tell yourself you've done your best to prepare, and that you're ready to knock it out of the park may be all you need is a reminder that you can do this. You just listen to the post titled daily reminders by Moggi. Adam check another great essay straight from Dr Chris patties class at Appalachian state university. Definitely try it out just set one reminder, and let me know how it goes. It can make a huge difference. They key Mogi, and Dr p for letting me share it with you again. I'll have contacted info in this episode subscription at old podcast dot com, including Dr peas, contact info if you want to do a little something to show your support for this podcast, simply telling someone about it showing them how to subscribe on their smartphone is a huge help bigger than you can imagine. So if you have a second, and there's someone you think would benefit or if you want to share this or any episode with them, please do in mean a lot. But I'll do it for this weekend. We lost an hour here. Thanks to daylight saving. But I'm coming back from Florida, which is three hours ahead. That's confusing. Put anyway, thank you for being here. And I'll see you tomorrow where your optimal life awaits.

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OB Nurse. Cannabis Nurse.

Health Hats, the Podcast

41:44 min | 5 months ago

OB Nurse. Cannabis Nurse.

"Welcome to health hats learning on the journey towards best health. I'm Danny Van Lewin two legged six gender old white man's privileged living in a food oasis. Who can afford many hats and knows a little bit about a lot of health care and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats wanted to time but I wear them all at once. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this Good James Brown. I didn't know how I tied this episode together. What was the story? We're going to hear my conversation with Jodie. Churchill Service Bond and Mogi nurse ten years. She supports moms delivering babies and she advises people on the use of medical marijuana. How do those two while and editing this episode? I'm also working out Horn of I feel good on my very new clam eyeball deep and Kobe. Nineteen maintaining my best health routine and trying to stay safe all disclosure. Medical Marijuana is part of my routine along and connecting people on their journey towards best. I need to feel good. Some of the got him Jodi. Thank you for joining me. I really appreciate it. We met just. I think a couple weeks ago on call Bill Woodworth. Call Right yes. It was her one hundred episode. Her one hundredth episode was really a moving. The call and the thing that I felt that was moving was the everybody was dealing with so much. I don't know what were their twenty twenty five people on the call. There was a good amount. And then some people that kind of came in and out right It was selected by people that Jill knows and interviewed and there people who are dealing with many family challenges and what was striking to me was well just the range of challenges and the complexity of the challenges that people were just alluding to by saying like my son's just been having seizures in. We're trying to figure out whether to use telehealth or do we need to go to the Doctor. But they were like upbeat. This is just another problem that they were trying to solve. And Mrs just like real life. The reason I called you are got in touch with Jill to say who was that lady and introduced me. Is that well? I felt the affinity because we're both nurses and you were talking about the challenge of being an ob an OB nurse. Now you're kinda crushed lamb. He yeah I maybe what we should do first is. If you're like in a social situation how do you introduce yourself? I usually tell people that I'm a nurse. I've been a registered nurse for over thirty years in a hospital setting with an extensive background in women's Health and labor and delivery. I am also when I'm not delivering babies at a local hospital. I am partner and director of nursing for Green Nurse Group and green nurse. Group is profit whole health consulting agency that serves as a liaison between patients and professionals in the medical cannabis industry so they really are two opposite ends of the spectrum because you're not usually talking about cannabis and labor and delivery and and so they're they're really two separate hats at this point in time. Take this introduction. Jody rift for a while social distancing. I can't accept what I'm eating into this new normal. I'm adapting fine but I. I'm touching hugging retired nurse. I feel As far as as me having to deal with a lack of of of touch and and being able to like I think my biggest thing with this whole Kobe did and social distancing I think in regular public. I'm okay if I'm somewhere where I don't know people with staying six feet away from them. I'll give them their distance most times. I don't want to be that close to them anyway but where I find it really difficult is when I'm around people that make me feel good. I'm a hugger mugger. Amac Kisser Matai Jerry. When I'm talking to someone I'm touching their arm their shoulder when I'm at work. I mean labor and delivery it's it's an interpersonal nerd. Where very personal were into touching? So we'll sit there at the nurses station if someone's like oh. I got an ache. I'll go right open like I even have. Cbd oils emotions in my in my bag that I would whip right out and I work on the not in a shoulder or or what have you. And now that's taboo now. We can't even sit near each other to talk close. Our computers have to be six feet apart and word in our masks and everybody's wearing their surgical caps now and it's just so it's so distant even when going into a patient's room usually I go up. I go close touch them on their leg of their arm. Hi How are you? I'm jodie shake. Shake their partners hand after getting to know them for the shift then at the end end of my shift. I'm giving hugs at the end of a delivery and now none of that is happening and actually I'm feeling so lost like that's that's where it hurts. The most is when I go into like when I'm used to going in to give a hug then I have to step back and it's like am. I being punished for this which I mean. I know it's not me personally but it's like what. What did I do that? The Universe is is doing. This is something that felt so good something bad when when you can't fix anything when you can't fix something when when someone is sad and you know that you can't you don't have the right answers a touch a hug a kiss and that that's not happening. I I just feel so starved. Can only you can only give so so much self love many times? I break down and start crying. It's hard it's hard. It is hard it is. I'm a nurse and The thing one of the things that that has been glorious for be about being a nurse is it's sort of legalized nosiness and this opportunity to have these odd fleeting intimacies. Whatever setting. I've done home care? I see you urgency department home rehabilitation and and yes. I think that fleeting intimacy is really precious about nursing and the part of it of course is as you said the touch. The Hug the physical expression of empathy is really important and I know now the hardest thing for me is that I can't hug my kids and my grandkids. Like just her heels. Crazy man very upsetting. This is early days but are you starting to see any alternative ways of expressing that caring and intimacy within these like ridiculous constraints that we have. Are you feeling like there's a glimpse of anything or is it at the point? Still words like this just sucks. It's you know I have fully gowned before and put an end ninety five on an I have embraced some of my closest. Because I can't go without it so I have put on p. p. e. just so. I can show affection that the only way I've found around it okay. I mean because I feel like right now our interventions are gross meeting gross as opposed to refined were managing with a sickle an or a sledgehammer. You know when I think we're we'll go is with a a needle or a scalpel where we get more like. What are the parameters so for example? You Know I. This is totally different. But you know the other day I was talking with somebody who had a bunch of kids and each child was allowed to have one friend that would be included in their pod. So Day could have play dates. So I'm thinking Oh my goodness. What are the implications of that? And I don't know I mean to me. It sounded a little risky but but I also thought okay people are trying to figure out. What can I do safely and maintain my sanity and continue with life. And that's part of this unpleasing and it sounds like you're getting up for a hud is an example in that third okay. What can I do like this? Hug is worth the dress up. You know so when I sort of that. It's like okay. Now you're like having to ration. Okay got prioritize. You know. There's only so many times I can gown up right exactly exactly. Yeah so that is interesting are so what are you seeing around you with your colleagues? How are they adapting? What are they coming up with as a ways to be a nurse? I mean you know I mean being a nurses special right. You know what it's it's lots of verbal encouragement because now that we are having to wear more protection. I'm finding now many of us are are now wearing scrub caps whether we're going into the operating room or not. We are wearing our masks. We are wearing even even protective glasses around because women can come in and deliver babies and huffing and puffing in aerosolize ing all around us. But what we're finding is that we're the scrub caps. Were getting different kinds different things because we're finding that our noses are are getting worn down our years around comfortable just helping each other different ways to to wear our p. e. now but the encouragement. I think the encouragement is a big thing and when we recognize that. Somebody's having a hard time. We pull them side and give them a little extra. I've had to be signing crying room so meaning. Your colleagues are calling my colleagues right. I think Just just trying to to encourage each other because it is. It is difficult to perform our jobs. You know and then I mean then when we get to the patients as far as the patients go you know. That's that's something that that takes a lot of encouragement as well because these patients I mean it's stressful trying to gear up for a Labor. You know and and birth process any way but now so much being taken away from them so many rely on their own support group. They'll have their their significant other. They'll have a Dula. They'll have other family members in family. Members will be waiting in the waiting room charing on from far now. All of that has come to an a halt. They're only allowed one one person in with them during that birth process in a has to go through the whole visit. You can't interchange anybody at that. It's that one person that's with you. From Labor Delivery Birth Postpartum and mome that processes shortened to now of Agile. Birth is twenty four hours where it used to be forty eight hours and now a c section is forty eight hours where it used to be a seventy two hour stay. So even that's been been shortened up and then you get into if you have a patient. That's up E. Y. Which is a person under investigation or Kobe positive? Gosh than they have even more taken away. They're not allowed their visitors. They're put in isolation the babies put Nice Latian. The babies taken away from them. Twenty four hours. I mean it is so and now that we're finding that women without symptoms day symptomatic. Women are also positive. We've had women so now any woman that comes in that's going to be admitted automatically gets test. Cova test regardless of her symptoms the significant other their temperature is taken and their denial of Cova questions is also documented in the patient's chart which I've never ever in my life documented. I've never taken a partners temperature. Vital sign let alone documented in my patience chart. So that's a little weird but I mean I think. They require a lot of encouragement. Because they're being forced to make choices on my. Gosh should I stay home and deliver this baby if I have possibility of being taken away but not everybody has set up for a home? Birth and there aren't enough providers there that will assist them with the Harbor. So that's scary too. That we have to reassure them that it still safe to come into the hospital. Yes you might not be able to follow through with everything that was on your birth plan which I mean. Oftentimes many people can't follow through with their birth clamper plans change but especially with this that they know that there's restrictions right up front and I think what we're going to have to deal with what we're going to have to watch for is postpartum depression because people build up to this one day and then it's it's deflated because it didn't turn out the way they wanted. And this just sets them up and then their hormonal imbalance from having a baby and then once they get home. They're back into being quarantined. I think in. That's huge because I think these cases are going to be missed because they might not call on the doctor for a visit. They might not be aware that telehealth Visits that can happen. So I'm I'm concerned. Yeah Yeah yeah no I I I appreciate that. I think in my work right now. I'm focusing on people at home that I feel like the industry is dealing with acute care and the medical settings but as you're alluding to hear now my words more than eighty percent of dealing with Cova does not happen in an institution. It happens at home and we are woefully inadequate. In how are we going to deal with that? You're bringing up of unimportant. Area is okay so now I'm going home with a newborn and my girlfriends aren't coming over by friends or my my extended family and it's it's all on me or it's all on being my partner and then there's three kids who need me too and I'm exhausted and I've been through this experience and so those are the kinds of things like I think about right now. And how do we offer answers to those every day? Questions that there's millions of them very few of them are about. Pp you know it's is. There's just this lifestyle you know ran. We're going to get help taking care of a newborn baby. I'm going crazy. I'm exhausted. Young these are the right the bright and y right it. It sure is and they're you know the struggle is real. The concerns are real so with anxiety and depression are increasing postpartum depression and also child and spousal abuse. That's that's going unreported now to people on quarantine it's scary it is it is room. So what do you recommend like okay so now you you've now had eight weeks or whatever of experience in this maternity support world so if there are families women and partners they're pregnant they're anticipating. What do you advise? Like how can they? How can they go into the situation and maximize the health of that situation? Well I think I think their biggest fear Is that they're going to deliver alone. Isn't that art breaking? Oh my Gosh Ryan Alone Ryan Dot com delivering alone dying alone but but alone without you know. He moved that they that they trust that they were planning. And then we come in and they see our is you know we have our scrub caps on. We have our masks on. Oftentimes we have gowns on gloves. And I mean I wear glasses and goggles so I am completely garbed up. You know and it's like an alien is coming to deliver your baby. And that's that's not what they sign up for that right there. Certainly there's the call hard of people who are going to be. This is so strange and they're overwhelmed but then there are that smaller group of people who are more take charge and there are things that they could do before was bring your partner. Bring your do Make sure somebody's taking care of your kids that you trust so that you can focus on. You're going to have a baby okay. So now. That isn't enough now. They've got. They need more tools in their toolbox to have a successful experience. So what do you some of those things might be? I think what they at this point. They need to trust their bedside nurse. I mean it it. It really comes down to you. Know how we help them through because now we have become their prime support personal. They're there one other support person so where there for both of them so we have to could put back on all of the hats again. It's not just about clinical care. It's now about support and how to get them how to make the situation better for them because we've also taken away walking in the hallways to them to. We don't allow anybody in our kitchens. Either where they could usually walk around help themselves to anything in the kitchen food so many things have been cut short so we suggest to them bring in your own snacks. Snacks bringing a cooler. But it Kinda zero way to meet you ahead of time. So that they they have a sense that okay. Jodi is going to be there and yeah. Our unit is too big ships change. It's tough to know because I mean I wear few different hats at work. I'm triage nurse. I'm charge nurse Labor and delivery nurse. Okay yeah it's it's really the luck of the draw off. It is so the. Oh my God you know. Trust Trust game. That is a huge. Trust game well you know what is interesting though I mean so. Then the science or the art are both is. How do you build that trust in five seconds? Then that's on you as anchors so you know I'm going to go on a limb here and say you're pretty good at that. So how do you do it? You know what I go in with a positive attitude and granted. They can't see my smile behind my mask but you smile big enough. They can see it in your eyes. It's really feeling them out. I mean I think that's the great thing about having so much experience in the triage department because you're seeing many people in and all of their significant others in their baggage and issues that they might carry when you walk into the room. You kinda gotta get a feel for the room for the patient. It comes with years of experience. I mean you walk into a room and you can. You can tell the vibe whether they're going to need that gentle hand or whether you can joke around with them and throw out some profanities you just kind of. He'll feel the room be able to read the room and play your cards accordingly because some people want lots of information some people want nothing But the biggest thing is just to let them know that it's all about them. You never let them know that it's busy on the rest of the unit. You never let them know that you know you're having a tough time with other people that somebody without a fetal heart rate just came in. You have to make sure that when you walk into each and every room that they know that they're the only patient so one of my absolute favorite episodes I ever did was with. What's his name Jason Stewart? Who was the clown supervisor at Boston? Children's they have a clown unit that goes from room to room and when I worked there I worked there and I led their patient family experience initiative and when I worked there he hosted a class on reading the Rue and it was one of the more valuable lessons I ever learned when I interviewed him for my podcast. I that's what it was about. You know reading the room and I agree. I think that that being able to trust myself that I could read the room in five seconds and what was going on and you know I was. I was probably right. Two thirds of the time. It wasn't like a huge amount but I wasn't terrible at it but you know what I mean. It's like yeah. Yeah the Ruben. Get it right every time you right. There's just too many permutations and but I did think that sometimes I thought. Why didn't I learn US IN NURSING SCHOOL? This read the room like vast and it was it. There was some you could learn. This was not that big of a mystery right so I appreciate you saying net the the ability to read the room. I think that's that's a gift that on. That's a gift here patients. 'cause coming in coming in with the with this might work and I think part of the ability of learning to read the room is trying something and in the next five seconds realized Euret Rock and shift right and right because I mean you got to trust it. I think this is what going on and you know then if you blow it it'll happen. Quick Oh yeah and that share has That has sure happened before. I've walked out of the room. It's like damn he goes away. I expect the next time you go in with a different approach. Exact which is okay. That's good I mean that's learning times no matter what approach you bring in. There's no winning in. It's like you just okay. Somebody else's up pod got so I do have another question sure. So how do you keep your family safe as a person in a high risk occupation? That's a great question because that's that's a huge fear with obviously ways weighs heavy on my mind when I'm working with patients who are either infected and those who we don't know that are infected with covert nineteen? I'm very concerned about bringing it home to my my family and loved ones especially because we hear that there's so many people that are testing positive that are a symptomatic or false negatives people that are symptomatic yet they show up negative and then a couple days later or you know re-testing than they show up positive. You have a routine that you do that when you leave the hospital. You have a routine when you walk in the front door of your. I I do. I mean you know as usual. I use all the appropriate precautions at work anyways. Even pre cova good handwashing and you know trying not to touch my face but definitely go through through appropriate precautions but when I show up to work. Luckily on my unit we are required to change into hospital. Scrubs because in labor and delivery you've been Head to the operating room the surgical suite on any given notice so we are lucky enough that we get to leave our street clothes and are a locker room. I wear a separate set of shoes at work than I do mall so that I put away as well and then during the shift using the appropriate hand hygiene an appropriate a tire and then before I leave work once I change into back into my street clothes. I make sure that my education is all wipe down and anything. That's coming home with me where before I used to bring a big work bag in that had all sorts of things in it any snacks. I wanted any extra socks. Whatever I mean by my mag was always filled. I don't bring in a bag anymore. I have a little one gallons ziplock bag that has my Scrub CAPS in it. I have a couple of extra received your masks that are in it just in case. Something's not provided. When I I walk into the hospital I have run into that that they weren't there to provide me my my mask when I first walk in but I minimized anything. That's coming out of the hospital with me. If I bring food in I eat it. I leave anything there but I bring minimal home and then when I arrive home I change out of my clothes. I wash up. And I constantly monitored myself or any symptoms before we were appropriately provided our P P. We actually had a quite a few nurses test positive on our unit early on because we were only allowed to use our and ninety five if there is a. Ui or a Kobe positive which at that point. A patient under an investigate. Good okay so and we had to sign out our protective equipment for those patients in it and it wasn't until a couple of our pregnant nurses showed up positive then bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-ba seven more nurses right after them showed up positive that they were like ooh okay. We're GONNA need more protection around here what's going on. I think it was because pregnant. Women are showing up a symptomatic. People weren't getting the testing or people coming in with them where denying their symptoms. So I think you know I was. I was a lot more nervous back when we weren't provided the P. p. e. but now that. I go into work. I get on my end as soon as I walk onto my unit. I get my surgical or my procedure mask. When I I walk into the hospital. Everybody gets that you actually have to show up a Kobe. Pass for the shift an hour or two before the shift starts. You have to go through. You have to log into an APP say that you don't have any symptoms. Sign that you don't have any symptoms and then show them that. Get your surgical mask night. You can work once I get to my unit and get I get my and ninety five on my surgical cap and either glasses or goggles and I think I feel more protected definitely. I'm I'm better about washing down computers and anything that I might be using before I even use it over over washing sanitizing. I before I I would wash all the time but now even if I haven't been anywhere I find myself anytime I go by. I'm constantly using so so I mean my hands and arms are guard crazy dry from that but I do live with my husband and one of my children. My other two older children live out of the house. But you know I'm still around them. We share bathrooms we together my husband and I still or in the same bed you know. It's but in the back of my mind thinking who is that a little dry cough. Ooh Do I feel warm to the patient that I had the other day? It's always in the back of my mind but I am ready. I have a bug out bag ready to go. If I find out that that one of my colleagues or or that I'm symptomatic. I have a bag packed in I now. I know I can go to a hotel for free. They have hotels. Were before it was a little more difficult before. They had closed the hotels to the the regular public. So you know I feel confident if I have to pull myself away from my family that I could do it I have the means if I have to. I don't want to but it's it's a concern. I just have to hope that it passes by my family. My loved ones my my myself. I'm boosting my immune system every way I can. I have a suppressed immune system anyway. Add PSORIATIC arthritis You know so so my immune system is a little out of whack anyway but I think just with these last few years of really kind of changing my my life habits that I've been able to boost my immune system properly and I just hope that that's that everything I'm doing is GonNa keep this nasty virus away now. A word from our sponsor a bridge US A Bridge to record your green nurse. Visit push the big button and record the conversation. Oh transcript or listen to clips when you get home check out the APP. A BRIDGE DOT COM A I G E DOT COM or download it on the apple APP store or Google. Play store record your healthcare conversations. Let me know how it went. Well just because I'm nosy. What do you do for fun? What do I do for fun? Well I mean right now. There's there's kind of a restriction on fun so right now I I have just the quarantine teen I have a segment on a show. It's called green nurse on the grow. It's on day mornings and Sunday mornings at ten o'clock on disrupt America Good Morning Shut Ins. Is the variety show. That's on disrupt America and it's through. Facebook live youtube twitter. There's there's different platforms but basically I'm a novice grower. I can't grow tomato but you know really once I got into this industry and working with other people and connecting with people. I was able to connect with some cultivators and people that are helping coach. My my lack of ability and going on this show is amazing because each time I go on they'll bring a cultivator on and I'll bring them through my garden my grow. I have a couple of tenths. This is a plant that has changed my life. Just four years ago was when I was kind of introduced to it I had learned about the Endo cannabinoid system and from there. You know it just expanded when I saw. This plant changed my life now. I can have a hand in growing my own medicine and medicine for many others as well. But it's something that that takes up my time. I'm Kinda stuck in the house when I'm not working at the hospital. You Know Endo cannabinoid so an Endo cannabinoid system. Oh so that is a system. It's a it's a a system of neurotransmitters of receptor sites all over your body and it incorporates every single other system in your body the cardiovascular system the respiratory system the immune system I mean every single system it it's Connected to and what I found. Is that when it is imbalanced? It can affect one or many of those other systems. And you know what I found is when I started incorporating cannabis as a healthy routine partake as adult US occasionally here and there but once I really started delving into it and learning what it could do a for my body you know. I got off many of my pharmaceuticals. I was victim of Poly Pharmacy. I was on more than ten meds with autoimmune disorder. I've had a brain hemorrhage chronic pain spinal stenosis and just the typical stress of being a nurse trying to raise a family a married. I have three children working shift work. I was charge nurse of my labor and delivery unit. It's a very busy unit so just being filled in many different directions and my body was just you know compensating and what I found is that I was. I was running towards more unhealthy habits at that point so once I started changing things. I hid started utilizing cannabis in a healthier way. I was able to sleep more. I had more energy. I was making better choices. When you feel good you're making better choices on what you eat. And then how you exercise. The energy level had gone up. How has your experience with cannabis helped you negotiate this change in your work life as a nurse all gowned up and not able to hug in touch with how how his CA? I sense that you've been really challenged by the shift into this highly protected persona as a nurse. That's been really a challenge. And so I'm wondering has the has your growing experience with cannabis and the benefits of cannabis for you as that helped you deal with the stress of work. Well I think cannabis helps me deal with the stress of life in general whether it be work whether it be family it his balanced my mood. It has allowed me to not fly off the handle if I find that if that I'm overwhelmed with life whether it be work whether it be home I'm able to take a step back. It's almost. It's taking that breath. It's it's forcing need to take a breath because whether I smoke it or whether you know I ingest it you know it's it's bringing me into focus. It's Kinda making me step back and say hey things thank things might seem bad but we can get through this. We've been through worse and and it's just another blip in the road. Thank you so thank you Danny. It was awesome. I was really nervous at first of all like. Oh my God. How am I going to prepare for this by GONNA awesome spot? Yeah it was. It was a lot of fun. You made me feel really comfortable good good. Hey we're nurses yet. We we Arnuhar says we are and it is. The Year of the nurse Will Jodi. Thanks for all you do. This has been a great conversation. I YOU'LL BE IN MY HEART BANK. Thank you. It was awesome. It was it was really good. Okay see bits together staying sane in insane situation how do our frontline essential workers all of them juggling duty new passion family and come pressure. I'll do moms babysitting. 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Bitmoji's and Sunshine | Steve Isaacs

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Bitmoji's and Sunshine | Steve Isaacs

"The presenting sponsor of Education is participate lately, teachers from all over have been working together to find new approaches to provide quality remote education participate sister company participate learning presents united. We teach a global gathering place for educators to share distance learning resources as we navigate these strange times for these resources and more visit participate dot com slash on education. If you WANNA create a bit Mogi classroom. Just frigging do it yeah I don't give a damn. Welcome to on education part of the on podcast media network. My name is Mike Wash and Glendarin friends. We have an awesome pod for you today, we will discuss the return to school for many districts, the pros and cons of the bit, Mogi classroom and our guest. This week is amazing educator and friend of the PODCAST Steve Isaacs. So I was just telling you, it's like eighty, four, eighty, five degrees in my house it is hosting. A Sweat Lodge in my office no air conditioning for five days. There apparently, the I haven't really had like proper air conditioning almost all of August. It got it got repaired once and then and then it, and then it stopped working and then people came back a couple three days later and fixed apart, and then they obviously broke something else in the free on all leaked out of the compressor. Answer I guess is the word. So they have to come tomorrow and do whatever they call a leak test to find out where the freon is leaking out, and then they got a refill the Freon and Oh my God and it's so hot so. And I had to I had to do a twenty four hour livestream. Yes that is when you do. I did not sleep for thirty nine hours. I Played Video Games with Steve Lau and and a bunch of other CBI's six and a bunch of other people and raised twenty seven hundred dollars for charity. all in a office that was like twenty or I was going say in Celsius. Twenty, seven Celsius like it was in the mid eighties while the entire time I was streaming that is baking. Hot Yeah that's Super uncomfortable I bet humid to. It was off. Yes. It was pretty bad. So. But but what a what a wild weekend I'm still recovering I'm still like. Feeling a little weird tired and like stuff like that. But you know twenty seven hundred bucks is is a lot of money We launched my mind. Craft Server which is pretty exciting. So I've been working on getting this server ready for a few months now and it's launch. We're GONNA actually put the allow list request in the show no listen friends you WANNA play minecraft and you're an educator and you're listening right now and you just want a place where you can play. Just. Play. Like we've said we say it all the time. You know that the biggest barrier the largest barrier in my mind till educators learning about how to use minecraft in the classroom is that they just don't have the space to play. Come play. You know if you're an educator, the allow list link is in the show notes, click on the allow this link fill out the form I'll take a look at it. You Can Ping me on twitter to tell me that you did it income play minecraft with us we have an awesome set of servers as a creative server in a survival server. It's a ton of fun there's always people on it and there's lots going on there's a discord server as well. You can chat with people So please. Come and play Glenn. Glenn. COMP line. I. Will. I will. I was just thinking about that barrier to entry and that only to. Just the concept of game based learning and I think a lot of times people have experienced. What is the educational side of games and so they see games as an entertainment form which it is but they haven't. Them in this type of form and when you are around other educators in this whether it be in the server or you're actually you know. Take an in videos as far as from Youtube or whatever you're actually doing far as you're going to get ideas. And then those ideas will spawn into what actually fits for your classroom. Your students your specific lessons that you're that you're thinking about. Because that's it. It'll. It will spark those things but without actually going and experiencing, it's really difficult to describe whenever you're. For example my parents if I would ever try to describe minecraft to them, they're not video game people and they have no idea what what they've seen the little figurines whatever I'd be really difficult to explain until you're in the environment doing the stuff, and then in this case, being able to do it with a bunch being able to experience it with a bunch of other educators I think is a great platform you nailed it. I have this. I don't know if there's anything like this in the states and you are a little like thrown off when I told you about it. So I'm assuming that there might not be but so. Antero educators will know what I'm talking about and I'm not sure if this is anywhere in Canada does this. But in Ontario if you are a public service employees of Essentially paid by the government. which you know is is fire utilities all paid all paid from taxes and education is also paid from taxes if you make more than a hundred thousand dollars a year. Your name is published in what they call it the sunshine list. which is I guess to insinuate that you've got it. You've got it made his life is good. Know I got news for people? But anyways. So you know there's always been educators in the sunshine list because you know higher level administrators and stuff like that. you know we'll tend to make you know. Hundreds of thousands hundred, thousand dollars a year, and but this is mostly used to keep like and I was telling Glenn. This is mostly used to keep like public sector executives. Honest. So they don't pay themselves fat bonuses and you know so like the big article that always comes out related the sunshine listen the newspaper is you know the CEO of Ontario Hydro or something like that gets paid like six point, eight, million dollars. Some hospital CEO gets paid like one and a half million dollars or something like that. Right like in those those end up breaking and because it's public. But what happened this year is So it with the combined collective bargaining You know agreement that was started in in the spring. And the new raises that kicked in for educators in. August. Just before they go back to school. What has happened is All of the educators that are what are called, what's called a four in Ontario, which is the the maximum amount of senior years Sewri of service or no it's. Yet ten years at a four. So a four is your level of like extra education. Yeah So this is like your your university credits that you would ensure it credits in Ontario. We've talked about this a little bit before you we talked to what they're called cues in in in in Ontario additional qualifications. So the highest level of the lanes we call it lanes as far as. Your is like the Max level of that, and then ten years is wear the the the pay scale tops out. Okay. So when you're a four at ten years, that's the most you can possibly get paid while all of those a four at ten years now make just over one hundred thousand dollars. Wow that's amazing. Thousands of teachers are now on the sunshine list well congratulations of the. Cheryl's name is now public because she is a four man she's actually sixteen years teaching. So so she makes jess over one hundred grand and it brought up a lot of really interesting conversations between us but also you and I and then between Cheryl and I were talking about it because you know there are tons of educators in the United States that are listening to me now and just screaming. audio. Layer of choice that they've been teaching for twenty five years and take in like university credits like maxed out at multiple a year and still make like fifty five thousand dollars a year. Yeah. Yeah. I mean some states are average salaries still in the low. So. Assists. Yeah. That seems like unbelievable though I know that there are states. California some of the East Coast states that their salary grids would be probably comparable to that. Because A, but it's also because it is super expensive obviously to live in these places but so I don't know as far as cost of living what what that equals out. Liga being educator and living in right in like Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. If you were making a hundred grand a year. Yeah. I think a lot of people that live. You know commute in. Jersey or from wherever else? Yeah. No. That's super interesting and congrats tall those educators because maybe thousands maybe one day. The United States. With a different president. Maybe maybe. Possible. I got I went down a rabbit hole thinking about this a little, which is why it's still on here because I was thinking about like the culture of the United States where like like Americans you know the the Monolithic Americans right the royal the royal we let's say once you know transparency and you know everything to be out in the open but also wants privacy and You know not wanting you know to to share you know things like how much people get paid weller example in public education. We do do that too but it's not printed like I mean, this was an interest I went to that art to that link. Man, it's interesting. But, all official government link, we'll put it in the show notes Lavar olive our salaries are public knowledge and I think in some newspapers. Not exactly sure. In some states, they may post the grids or the person, and then what salary they are actually specifically making each year. So you can go look up exactly what I made. You know whatever year because it is public domain as as you describe it, it's very similar in that way I just thought it was interesting and interesting that they call it the sunshine. And they'll be a newspaper every year. There's a newspaper article where they published like the juicy ones. The ones like I said are interested in the ones that. The ONES THEY WANNA like out and make sure people know that you know. So so took a half a million dollar bonus but but still did all of these stupid mistakes. Whatever just thinking about the Mike? This is. You were just describing hospital employees because obviously it's a public sector you know in the United. States it is here in. The United States. And? And Energy Sector that was interesting too I was like, Oh, all of our energy is privatized. So. So that was a little bit foreign, but you know what is interesting? Our highest paid and I would just talk to Nicole about this and I'm sure L. pissing people off when I say this, but I don't care. Our highest public employees in the United States, you know who they are like some of the highest I'd sure that there's somebody thinking of right now but you know who they actually are. College football coaches. Yeah. So. For the University of Alabama. Their head football coach salary in the millions. So it's like it's really weird. And I don't understand that why we couldn't as educators be one, hundred, thousand list you know those kinds of things. Especially, with at the end, like you just described as far as the all those years of service and. Yeah. It's a really interesting thing and. Like I say. I thought it was interesting that our college football coaches are the ones that are. That are the most lucrative careers in the public sector. So maybe someone else will throw out some other public sector jobs in United States that are actually really highly paid, but even our our president doesn't make you know as far as the amount of money that they make I. Think they make a quarter of a dollars. So it's not like a huge salary that they actually make. But it's interesting. Anyway. It's funny when you when? I'm on this I'm I'm in the rabbit hole again, I'm looking at the so the two most the two highest paid public sector employees according to this twenty nineteen were both Ontario. Power Generation Opie G, which is like our our utilities power utility. Scenarios or yeah I guess. So nine hundred, thirty, eight, thousand dollars so not not in the millions. suggests. Be This win be like benefits or bonuses or anything like that? I don't think. Okay and then there's like hospitals I'm seeing crown. which would be like governmental departments University people are all you know, hi Fi figures then yeah, and then there's like a bunch of university people are in the high figures You don't really get into like public school boards. school district people probably till till you get into like the two hundred thousand. So Mike, I was wrong. I just googled K Nick Sabin University of Alabama football 'cause I knew it was a university of Alabama football because I forgot his name can. Eleven point one, million. The second, most highest paid coach I was actually wrong. It's actually a basketball coach for the University of Kentucky. So. Just imagine that to the whole controversy of college football or basketball players and so on and so forth. That get paid nothing except for their college tuition will we're going to pay your education whatever that amount is it's Guy John. Calipari made seven point seven, five, million last year life is good man dude there's something wrong with that I I think it's so wrong. Anyway, it's a different discussion different day but I I thought it was interesting. I should have been a basketball coach. I know. Very highly why? We're going to not let like do anything they're not gonNA let. No one's technicality. GonNa. Stop you from. Then, Ano- nothing stopped. So. Cheryl's on the sunshine. Let's cool. Awesome awesome. So. Yeah. I wanted to talk about. A few weeks ago. I. Legitimately asked the question and I know people probably thought I was being sarcastic and I seriously was it. But I wanted to know what was the buzz about this thing called the bit Moji classroom and the reason why I wanted to do honesty was because a teacher reached out. and asked. They they saw a bit. They saw the bit Mogi classroom and they wanted to. they wanted me to teach them how to set it up and I heard bit Mogi clash from I think in Google classroom. School is at a new LMS have emojis in it. And then I. Then I saw something that someone had posted. That was the bit Mogi classroom thing and I was like I don't even know what that is. I looked at it and I'm like I. I don't understand. I. Guess. So I. Asked what is this and what's the controversy you know kind of like give me some some things. So I think people thought I was being sarcastic because some some people right away like defending it. So. What is he? Because I actually am still like super confused so the best way I can describe it. IS IT IS A. in my mind, it looks like a a a header for a a digital space. A let's call it. You know we used to call him I think I did a a session on this about eight nine years ago when Google slides came out. and. We did a session on creating interactive slides. Right take you to. A. All kinds of different things. So it would be it would be. A an image with a bunch of images inside of it right click here and click it, and it's kind of like a web page. Let's call it a webpage interact with page except in this cage. This header thing that you can put on your website or I guess inside of your LMS to directs you to their syllabus or a welcome message right but the. The cutesy part is that there's a bit Mogi character of the teacher inside of there does that make sense? So it's their classroom like it's A. You since I can't be in my physical space. That's what I'm thinking. That's what these people are saying that can be. They're going to recreate their physical space and kind of this. To deal. With, their emoji character, and then you click here for the welcome message, Click here for the syllabus and so on and so forth. So I didn't get number one. What the controversy was number two why it's so popular like that's the two things I was just like, okay that's not anything except for the little. Bit Mogi character you know as far as adding it into the thing I didn't really think it was something like super innovative but I think a lot of people were spending a lot of time and maybe that was a controversy it was they were spending a whole bunch of time on it. Maybe they. The controversial views should be doing this other thing whatever my be so. I didn't I didn't know one thing or the other, but I definitely want it to bring it up because I didn't know if you had heard hit number one and number two I was like. I don't even know like you know this summer actually this year. Has, about this year, glide. Just me throughout the world. Has Been? Insane and a whole bunch of other additives as you know. People have used all kinds of other. Descriptive adjectives to describe this year and the things that have gone awry. You know and then I, we haven't even had a presidential election. Yeah. Has it even come In. Dude I. Already the beginning of the year, the COVID everybody having to leave school then. All of the things that then occurred towards the end of the year and all of our you know black lives matter movement, and now all of us kind of reframing kind of rethinking everything that we ever did and and we're in a good way and going like we need to be better people, which is just amazing. I love that out of all of this crap has come all of this. Good. As as really started it legitimate movement that feels different than anything else as far as in the past. But yet. There's this bit Mogi controversy of this thing and I don't I don't care about if you decide to go and do that now I'll tell you what though I'm not going to be helping anybody with this. This is not something that's on my top of my priority list. People want to go ahead and explore how to create engaging lessons. In, and make sure that they get student voice and choice health game based learning, whatever might be there like passionate about how do I teach in a virtual setting discussions? How do I manage all of these things? Yes. Let's talk about the same, but it just seemed Kinda like Like. A side conversation. There's a there's a station that or a channel that I watch TV this kind of reminded me of this, but I call trash. TV. Do you ever watch Bravo. Channel. Bravo well. So we have Bravo. It's the same or not but I'm sure it is. Okay. So Anyway, Bravo is is Glenn Irvine's Pets like no, not a pet peeve my. My dirty secret. Let's call it. I watched tons of shows on Bravo right yes ed their trash. I'm telling you right. It is trash TV to the ultimate thing. and. This felt like one of those topics where we like to get distracted about things where it's like Nah, let's redirect their things to lease the really important things that are actually going on right now that are right in front of our faces including the topics that we're about to talk about just a sec instead of kind of sight. But many people like me Still Watch Bravo. And still want the bit mode you classroom and what a Taco. Whether For or against it so Anyway. I wanted to make sure we brought it up but I really we really go anywhere. But it's I think we do this a lot sto. Don't you think we'll do this a lot in education we get. We get distracted really easily by really stupid things. And even we by the distraction I, even call it this week we've been tend to put our money and time and investment in these weird things that truly. Will never make a difference student learning or student connections didn't relationship those kinds of things. But we we tend to, and maybe it's a human nature thing. That's the reason maybe why Bravo TV. So so popular, it's a human nature that we want to see this. Train wrecks. People yelling at each other crazy. It's all. Gypsy wedding show on Bravo. Probably Real. Housewives is. Yes I. Watch many of those shows but anyway dog the dog. Dog Show competition probably. Like the actual competition but The people the people? Yeah. That's high quality high quality. So we'll go you learn something about today. Great. So. Let me. Let me talk representing. You want to create a bit Mogi classroom. Just frigging. Do it. I don't give a damn. What do I really don't and you know what? To The idiots that care what other people are doing just please stop. Caring about what other people are doing with their frigging bit Mogi classrooms, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to you. If they think that their students will love it who the health here's why do we care about? Why is this? The Shit that we choose to care about I don't understand. I don't understand why we decide that. This is where we needed. This is the hill we need to die on is Boji classrooms give your freaking heads a shake people. It doesn't matter. Your Bit Mogi classrooms don't make them but please don't go be a keyboard warrior on twitter about it. Doesn't matter. It just matters. So little you guys you guys down there you have the most consequential election in human history It doesn't matter to you either it matters to the whole freaking world on what happens this fall. And so if I have to listen to one more knucklehead, Taco bit Mogi classrooms like it's the it's going to end someone's class or in any possible way, affect your class which it's not. I'm just GONNA lose it. Because it just doesn't matter. Just let people do the exams. This, whatever this is I want to say it's nonsense. I just just don't care. And you shouldn't either it's just like you know have tons of other things if people wanNA. Do If people want to decorate their classrooms like Harry Potter classroom. Remember. That cares what do you care? What do you care and I'm sorry if that makes you feel bad because you don't have twenty rand by. But it's like. Let them just go do it. Matter to you. I'm sorry. I God I. Hope That Lady Excuse Dig our heels in about. When there are so many there's so many things going on in this absolu- dumpster fire of a year. I mean the Bit Mogi classrooms needs to be at the bottom of your list of priorities. Not. Even there like like. Let's. Recalibrate you're priority list if you're tweeting about how bad bit Mogi classrooms maybe they're bad. You know what don't do it then? Just don't do it. We okay now. We're. GonNa lose it. Talking about things that do matter whole bunch of schools. are either have already started 'cause there's been schools that already been instantly shutdown or are about to start like we are. And a lot of school boards. Have made decisions whether or not they're going to. Go back fully, are they going to have some sort of hybrid model or are they gonna go virtually and I wanted to talk about it? Because in my local district, they decided to go ahead and the the local school board to. Go full face to face. Start. And it was based upon our governor basically gave back the local control to or back give back local control and said We're GONNA give you the latest data we're going to support your decisions and in other words by supporting them as a financially. So whatever types of equipment to make sure that this happened safely, etc and so on. So forth. And they decided to do that and my goodness if felt like. I've I've talked to several colleagues and and of course, my wife works to and it felt like. kind of we like with somebody punches you hard in the gut. And it hurts for an extended period of time where you feel Kinda sick for a while every time you kind of think back to like Oh what is this actually going to mean and so definitely, anxiety levels are up. So we're kind of looking. Okay. Let's look throughout the country because in Minnesota we don't start like you guys until after this Labor Day. So there are places throughout the country that have already started some of them. Will you know like we talked about in previous podcast for example, Georgia where they had to shut down in Georgia? We have another article here that I have a Nebraska where a bunch of teachers got sick and enough teachers got sick that they had to shut the school down. There's no there's not an teachers we have to shut it down. And so it brings a lot of anxiety and and you didn't go you guys were like super. You're kind of like me like you to like my wife doesn't have a problem going out now a little bit but I still like. I'm in my house many of us and you didn't leave either. No. We NBA talked about on the podcast. You were asking me like, where do you get? have. Groceries delivered. You know we're trying to do everything that we possibly can, and it was giving me you like I talked about before I was really getting anxious and really angry at people that weren't wearing their masks back before the mask mandate happened here in Minnesota and. Now, we're going to go back to a place in our school has a four hundred plus students per class, and we have four grades. So we have more than sixteen hundred students in a building One hundred teachers specific features hundreds more personnel whether it be administrative. We're talking about assistance pair professionals, custodians the our awesome amazing cooks and. Bus Drivers. At everybody else says associated with the school. And we're all going back and it's like. An and at this point Mike if we look back at the data for March, you know when we decided to just go virtual, you'd have the whole of the country was moving towards that There was weightless cases. Zinc, it was like, Oh, my God. Okay. There was weightless cases that we we were trying to do everything. We could this summer and stayed away from everybody we did all the things we were supposed to do. And I'm feeling. Much worse now than it wasn't this spring it exciting. I don't underside. Don't understand how it's possibly safer now than it was in March so so What is crazy as you start feeling anxious for yourself but then you really start thinking. What about my kids? You know like your own the kids? Your students, which you can call your kids to, and that's I totally get that too. But your own kids where you're like, what should we do? You know and I know a lot of parents are pulling their kids and just saying we're just GONNA go virtually we can't. We just can't do this for pre existing conditions at the parents may have where the kids may already have or whatever might be. Talk about a really crazy. We knew coming as far as the decisions to be made we just didn't know. How we would actually start feeling So as the week start coming where we have basically a few weeks before the start of the school year. It's a I, can already I could. Sense the tension of the educators. But I think even our kids are going to be very amid, it's going to be like a Hazmat type of environment you know. Ed and those parents or the community members that think that it's going to be. What normal school was like, which was a caring? wonderfully wonderful community where we share you know and and and and you basically become a family you know type of thing it's going to be very sterile very procedurally based very much rule based kind of very strictly enforced kind of things combined and and it's not going to. Those those greats things that are part of normal type of school. Some of those things will still be there, but it'll be really difficult. You know there's going to be like we talked about the hugs and the and the even a handshake or fist-bump with with students or you know or or getting close to them and being like, Hey, you know I'm here to support you know those type of things going to be very Opposite of that. Too. Exactly. Yeah. So and then you know. Getting together and feeling good feel whatever might be I just it seems crazy seems off but I guess I will be reporting from the frontlines I'll be telling you how it actually. I wanted to make sure that we included in our show notes to clip from this Florida governor and Co basically says something to the effect of he says that if our students are a symptomatic, he's the governor of of the state. This guy's just ridiculous. Actually, this is not the governor. This was the. It was either the governor or the the Department of Education Delete of the Department of Education in. Florida. He said if the student is get symptoms, he gets covert. Sorry. I just clicked on the link video has been removed. Okay. So if he gets if he if the student is gets covid rights. and they are ase symptomatic after twenty four to forty eight hours. He said twenty four hours we're going to send send them back to school. It's going to be okay. Because Kids are fine. He said kids are fine that we've the to be okay. Whatever might be and so much of the data's now saying, we just don't know enough and you know we definitely don't know why we don't know. We've we. We stopped in March and said, yeah maybe we should take a pause here. And we don't have the data because we haven't got these large groups of people these young kids together yet. So talk about I mean it'll be definitely be were definitely gonNA. Get data. You know I made were definitely going to have some data. We're definitely going to have some some an experiments for many of us as far as you can. Transmit. It's are or can they transmit it to each other? Will they get really sick? Can Kids die at a higher rates? You know those kinds of things it seems like, wow. It's like the last type of. The last people that we would ever want to experiment with you know especially when we know so little. Pretend, we know a lot, but we really don't, and that's what does it all the experts that bigs experts they always said from the beginning they said. We will compare this to other things because we know of these types of of viruses, these corona viruses, but we don't know this specific ones what its inner workings until. It starts kind of going throughout the you know as far as the country or the world. Sorry. So really scary and I know some other people are feeling the exact same way it just know that. Hey right here with you. I mean if you wanted to let us know about what's happening within your school district or anything that you feel you know crazier that's happening or no mask. At least we have mask mandates at our school. We're going to be doing some I mean I know that our administration is going to be working tirelessly to try to make it as safe as possible. So I don't blame them at all. They're amazing. They're going to do everything within their power. To try to keep us safe as we possibly can. I don't know if it's GONNA be enough because we're we're going to do the one thing that we shouldn't do which is. Be By, each other. When they when you're walking down the sidewalk, it reminded me of that's time Mike and then I'll let you go at talk up. Sorry. You were talking one day you're walking down the sidewalk and it was probably in May I think April or May, and you were walking with your kids or with Cheryl and someone was walking towards you and they didn't move just a little bit over because they didn't give you your six feet. You were uncomfortable even though you were outside whatever my because you knew you should be uncomfortable. because. That's one thing that at least we know that if you're not, if you could stay a good distance away from each other. You you probably are going to be safe writes. This is the exact opposite is like. Let's put us all into a building again. And then let's see what let's. Let's see if the mask. Type of things will go in and protect us, and by the way we don't we're not doing a blended or sorry. Kind of a off and on type schedule where we could have for the students in and then half of the students out, you know it's going to be the students. The students will be at the school. The all of students so The spacing. Those things like oh tough. Man I'm I'm I have insane levels of conflict with all of this and I'm scared I'll be honest in a lot like hundreds of different ways. I mean Cheryl's a kindergarten teacher. They are not reducing class sizes in -Tario. She is going to be in class the same class she's ever had. With twenty five ish kids little kids. WHO. Touch each other an play around with each other, and some of them will not know how to follow instructions they're learning them. There is no Katie three mask mandate, and so none of those kids are going to be wearing masks or or at least not be forced to wear masks. Well, and so she has to be in that. So that's That's That's Cheryl and then there's Jacob Jacob it was supposed to start kindergarten this year. He's super excited. So I mean I you know he is one of those kids that loves. Other kids loves to play with them and be around them and be social very social He will. You know he's good with the mask. He's super comfortable wearing one we are going to ask him to wear it all day every day we're going to ask his teacher to help us. Help her help him. Yes. Where the mask you know it's not required, but it's strongly suggested. So so that's I'm scared for Jacob Ben. I'm scared about all of that and then there's Isaac who did not do well with distance learning. It's not for him. He does not have HE NEEDS A. In with like in him, he needs a he needs a class he needs. Appears to be successful? He is a very good student. He was not a good student in remote learning. So you know we know that like like so both Jacob and Isaac would be allowed to stay home like they're they've given every parent and option you can stay home. If you want, you can not send your kids to the physical school they will be taught remotely by teachers. By we know that that's not the best for either of our kids in terms of like their education sure both of them I think need teachers now and then there's an so like I'm scared about all of that and then, and then there's me and this is like the like super weird part is that. I can do every single thing, right? Right, yeah. I. Can wear masks when I go to the grocery I, I literally do not leave the House I work from home. I'm in an office I have very little contact with people. And I could still die of this damn thing. because. I could get it from Cheryl. Or Jacobs or Isaac who got it from someone else? I can do everything right and I could still get sick. And? Die That pisses me off more than anything that that and I'm the most vulnerable in our whole family. You know because I've had like like I i. don't like diabetes or anything like that, which makes you vulnerable but I've had You know I've had bronchitis a couple of times I've had long You know lung issues and stuff like that, and and that that makes your lungs weaker and that makes it. So I am the most vulnerable person in this whole family and I could do everything right and I could still get sick same thing with our any of our other vulnerable members extended members of families. So it's their parents his parents are at in the grandparents. And we can't see Cheryl's parents anymore. They've been living at Cheryl's parents house we Cheryl and our two kids are at Cheryl's parents house right now because our house is like eighty eight degrees right now. And I've been staying here and they've been there and they wouldn't be if this was September, they wouldn't be able to do that or at least. I. Don't think they should do that. I. Mean we've I mean I. Guess I'd be fine with letting their their there. There are their own people they can make decisions but like once we're back to school I don't think our kids should be coming in contact with their grandparents again I think it's too dangerous. So. Laser. Like at multiple levels. This is scary as hell. And I'm not I'm not happy about it even though like and then. The last piece of this before we before we move on and talk to our guest is is the idea that like? I mean, we live in Ontario Canada and we don't even live in Toronto we live in a an hour and a bit north of Toronto. In Ontario Canada, we do not live in Miami Florida I know we do not live in La. But all of my friends, a lot of my friends. Are Americans most of my social circle. Is American you and Steve and these people I talked to you I talk to every day my best friends are all Americans. and. My thoughts in my opinions of covert are clouded by the American experience even though it is completely different. Yes. Then here and I should be significantly less scared than I am in some ways. Yeah. You know we have a very small amount of cases in my region. Maybe like ten or twelve. If that they're all like contained. They're all contact trace. You know like the the actual director, the regional health director for our whole I think I've said this before is my next door neighbor. He, he lives right beside us. So like I know if things are bad because you know right there. So, but I but I but I still have this tension because everyone I talked to is American. and and but you know, so I keep having to remind myself Mike. It's it's probably going to be okay There are like hardly any cases in our area at all you know Sheryl where Cheryl teaches a little bit worse but even then it's not like substantially worse. So I mean I. M. You know we're all GonNa try to figure out what the hell to do. We will listen in in eight weeks. We'll be back here and China voted, and we'll. We'll see what happens I guess. Or not. Yeah. I mean we'll see God dark. Let's. Let's let's lighten the load a little bit when we friends when we come back. One of our best friends. Steve is will join us so stay tuned. All. Right everyone. Welcome back to the podcast our guest. This week doesn't really need it introduction, but I feel so socially obligated to offer one anyways Steve Isaacs joins us on the podcast this week he's a educator one of the finest educators on the planet from new. Jersey's. And he is You know I spend more time with Steve Isaacs than I do with my family these days. anyways. Welcome. Welcome to the podcast Steve Thanks Bye Glenn Good to you guys I'm actually surprised that you came onto the show being how much time you spend with Mike. Yes especially after the marathon of like being with each other for really long periods of time at least virtually. How long was that? Steve? How long did we spend together? That was twenty four hours straight my like without I? Mean we both did it we? No No, no no. NAP IN. No. Maybe an occasional bathroom break or run downstairs to get you know another something to drink or a snack but we were together for twenty four hours straight. Games we've. Besides playing games. Tell us about it. Raising. Money raising money. Yeah. Yeah we raise we raise twenty seven hundred dollars for extra life charity, which is a charity that. Supports Children's hospitals specifically So we raised twenty just under twenty, seven, hundred dollars, which is pretty awesome. Had A lot of big donors. Yeah. had. A lot of other. Don't like just a Lotta people came out and donated Glenn even donated We had a lotta a of great donors. Harkat or donated mark donated. Thank you. Mark My Dad Grandma deb. She took it. She took it. And she overtook Steven Reid who was ridiculously generous as well. Yeah we had. People are just I. Just love when you see the heart that people have when you're doing something like that because he was really tremendously generous. A lot of the donations and people really really were were excited to help and behind the cause. So that's really special. What a reminder that? Community can be found in any kind of place in any sort of way and that it's like when you when you do something meaningful to people. four people or with people You know they respond when you kind of say. Okay. We're trying to do this now. Can you come in be part of that and so we've been you and I have been streaming almost every day since since March. Almost. Every day we took, we've taken a little time off, but not very much not much and you know building up this great. You know professional learning community on the participate twitch stream and then so when it comes time for us to say listen, we want to do this thing. we want to raise some money. We WanNA play emily it's like At least while think about who state like Bradsher cler stayed up with us almost the whole time yet uh, mark on ankles stayed up with us, quite bit Eric Lowlier, Eric. Layer doing I mean he hurt Leitner was probably with us as much as he could have took a short sleep then had to teach a professional development thing you know for seven hours and then jumped right back on and was llamas till the end. Amanda. I. Think you might have mentioned her but like up at like four in the morning with us after probably going to bed after midnight. It was great. Becky was with US allot. And just so many people pop it in Deirdra stopped in deirdre stream from the minecraft education team. Gosh. So I had a few students that was really really fun. Yeah few former students that or so it's interesting I used to. My wife and I used to own a computer training and gaming sour and we built talk about Community Right Mike. So there I mean we created this amazing affinity space for these kids in a town that had nothing to do twenty plus years ago and these kids have such fond memories of those days in the few of them jumped in the stream. One of them we had on on voice with us for a while and. Heartwarming for big time pretty incredible. We? Yeah so pretty exciting we've raised so much money and. Had, so many people, but you know. So, let's talk about the streaming for a little bit I guess You know we've been doing this thing every day. And you know you had this idea I think we both had the idea of the same thing at the same time kind of thing, and it was it worked superwealthy. Work together on it you were kind of trying to teach your kids yet. I'm trying to teach adults and you know we can kind of do both. Don't always in my like my my passion was always to both reach students, but also bring in educators and kind of do that co learning. But it did it started out like I think when I thought I was GONNA be home for two weeks. They sort of made a commitment like all stream every day for those two weeks. So it will provide something that's worthwhile for all my kids that that coincides with what we're learning because we've been focused on content creation and when he said that Mike, you reached out to me and said Hey let's do this together and we started planning. and. Two weeks became the rest of the school year became the whole summer, and now we're just trying to figure out how to keep going but just alter the hours to keep accommodating our schedule but. You're right. So having kids and adults learning and that whole idea of what professional development could look like great and that's kind of I think our mission. I think twitches still a really new space to many people don't even know what it is and. Talking about adults. Yeah. I'm talking about kids because kids know what it is and for that space to be a place where you can like you said. have live. Professional Development in this case, it's super awesome. It's game base learning And you can basically that only watch something by interact with it too. So that's that's kind of like the when I was trying to explain twitch to my wife. It was actually difficult because it was like. It's kind of like TV, except you actually talk to the people that are doing the things, she's like Oh. That's weird. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, it is kind of weird but I was like but it's Kinda. Cool. Then to because then you are actually having this dialogue between you and the person now in. Most cases it's it's with video games but now it's expanded to everything I. mean the channel over the streams are huge variety of different things and why not education. So tell us more about that because that's really interesting as far as that avenue for people. For you guys to have taken basically a bad situation and turned it on its head and then been able to say, okay, we're going to use this though we have a a bad situation. We're GONNA use this stream or this ability this channel to be able to go at in and and deliver professional development. I mean, that's yeah. That's what we're trying to do now. I was waiting I was giving Mica Chas. I figured he might want to jump in but I mean Mike says it great Mike always talks about how we're trying to change the paradigm of what professional learning might be like. Now, it works out perfectly for us because we both have this mindset about the importance of. Learning communities and learning together and building community That's always been something I've been excited about like you go back to the twitter chats and such rate, and that also makes me think of right now the East Sports Edu. I way back. You know I was involved when they started the chat and then it was kind of a slow growing chat. And then they just recently moved to twitch and it's the perfect space for that and just like you said, Glen the fact they have like four people kind of having a conversation, which is a little more exciting than just throwing out q one q two, three, q four, q five. and. Then the chat is lively and it it also allows it to to morph into whatever it supposed to that day and I think that's what Mike and I find a lot is that we might start somewhere and we're GonNa go where the audience kind also US rate like they're inactive part of of what we're GONNA end up doing It's really it's really interesting and you know and we're not I. Mean will be the first to tell you very often that we're tinkering around learning. While we go hopefully modeling what learning could look like all about constructivist learning. So we're big again and that's where that community comes in. We've had times where we were working on something and. We had a little bit of a block and somebody in a chat says you know Oh. Why don't you try this and boom? It helps gets us on the path and and then we felt like we were all in it together and that kind of thing. Yeah we you know you want. People to feel like they're part of something and when when people feel like they're part of something you know agency like. So we frame all these things whereas we talk about with students. Right we talked about agency with students. We talk about you know engagement for Sudanese we talk about letting our students learn. However they want whenever they want. Right we talk about our students you know feeling empowered. You know why? In the hell don't we think that any of the stuff applies to adults. I mean, it's just rid. Of course it does it all applies to adults I. mean adults need to feel agency in their learning adults need to feel engage they need to feel empowered. They need to feel like they can express what they've learned in whatever way they feel like they can, and so you know when we build a platform on on participate where people can. You know type and discuss and like read people's thoughts and then respond to those thoughts or we have a video where people can watch and then share and talk or we have a podcast where people can listen and then and then you know disseminate that information or share it or then go back to one of those other sources and and continue the conversation I mean. This is what adults want, and I mean the the idea just one more thing. The idea you know you know of of twitch is that you know twenty years from now our students are going to be. Are adults and they are going to be completely comfortable with the way we're doing things now. So we're we're building you know this kind of structure for the future. Yeah. Did you see on Brian Sanders tweet today? It was something like know I have a new a new model for professional development. You know it's called a teacher tinker time you know or something and the the the premise was, let's give teachers time to to play and explore them. Whatever I think that really gets at the heart of what we're trying to do as well. 'cause you know people were playing along with us. They're learning with us. You know I mean when you think of people like Amanda and the amount of time she's dedicating to spending you know with us and and and and feeling I think pretty pumped about what she's learning and then you know expanding upon and that that's refreshing to us I mean to me like I feed so much off of that. So you know I think. You know we have this especially right now we're we're talking about things like remote learning and a flipped bottle and things like I don't really want to just talk to. Nobody and put out a video and then have my kids watch that. It might. Be Effective for delivering content but not for exciting me about the process and all that so. I. Think that's what we're. Think. That's what's been super cool and I, think we kind of new that it could be I. think we're seeing it grow and I think we're I. Think the more people that start to kind of get exposed to it because like you said, Glen twitch is noodles. In a lot of times a lot of ways. It's just as easy as hey, there's a link on twitter if I click on it, maybe I'll end up there. You know because that's really all it takes. To to find us. But you're right even today and that that might be a good segue to the the game study stuff. But Matt Farber was funny because. You know he's done a gazillion webinars and things, and before we got today, he said I've never been on twitch what do I have to do and Not, just you know just be there like you're on zoom or whatever, and let's do our thing. Yeah, the the barrier to entry is super low for this so I mean what? You don't get to do anything. You got to do what you've normally done, which makes it so easy to Mike Mike. Send you a link and says Click this camera on in your mic on and you'll magically be on twitch. Your Star. What else is going on Steve? What else you got I know, but the audience does. So let's let's share all the other stuff that's been happening because there's a happened in in the past and what do you got going on in the future because you if there's one thing about Steve Isaacs friends if you if you've never met. Circum- across some or interact with them. He's he's always doing stuff. And there's always lots going on in this world so because you should definitely share all the cool things that are happening. Yes. So thank you. Again this this Cova thing. A lot of like interesting. Opportunities that and it's funny. There are a lot of tweets earlier about people saying things like they didn't want people talking about covid. Presenting opportunities I don't know if you remember that and made me try to watch what I said or something but. But I see it as the the the unanticipated outcome is, is some positive positive things, right? So kids were stuck at home. And you know I've been involved in sports and things and we. Early on Eric, Lightner at started with with him having this idea to do a minecraft Cova build challenges so. He set up like a flip grid environment and then we he invited me and Cathy into tourists to work with him, and we added a number of challenges. So ended up with six of these challenges, and then we Mesa who was also looking to kind of shift their thinking at this time to like building community and looking at competition and things differently. So we partnered with them and created this great worldwide challenge which really he was neat like we got a ton of entries but then. The folks that they're associated with in Mexico City and Mexico and Mexico got very interested. In fact, we almost had you. Doing some of the video content I remember. that. And we so the. The the. The affiliates in Mexico got very excited and we got I think like Gosh. It might have been like thousands or seventeen hundred or something entries from Mexico for for that challenge. And that was like this second running of it essentially exclusively for Mexico and then that led us to. To the micro face off which and Mike Spin with us all way with participate you know supporting the streaming and all that. But we did the The the neigh- SAF minecraft face off which was again we had now the NHL interested in engaging their fans at a time when they couldn't go to games. So we did a number of minecraft bill challenges around hockey and got some also great Grecu on entries like Arenas with playable hockey games in them and stuff. And then we moved onto what was called the minecraft masters, which was kind of modeled after like the Lego masters or like some of the like robotics type competitions and we. Open it up to entries from around the world and the the idea was going to be to take representatives. The top four. Teams from different countries were going to represent their countries in the this live minecraft masters event and. Turned out. We had. A team for Mexico, the UK Egypt and Israel were the four that made it to that part, and we had four rounds of live. You know know. Shout casted minecraft. Goodness with all sorts of different. Challenges that also dealt with redstone and commands and command blocks, and the final one was two teams creating fully playable games in a span of. Three and a half hours they had a few days to plan it, but they had to start fresh for the live event was fun we. Mike was. Behind the wheel of all the production and we had a really good time and it was neat to work with these teams because some of them you got to know I mean we worked with the same teams for like the four weeks of that part. And then now coming up. We have a big project with the Rube Goldberg Foundation So I had been doing a lot with my students creating rube, Goldberg Machines, and both fortnight creative and minecraft, and I always tweet out student work and I was for a while just tagging Rube Goldberg because they've Rube, Goldberg, machines and. Rube Goldberg's granddaughter Jennifer George Who runs the Rube Goldberg. Reached out essentially to kind of like, ask for some some guidance because what they wanted to do. It was their dream to take they do this physical? Have you ever seen? It's so neat. The Physical Rube Goldberg challenges that are out there that families participated in this year I mean really amazing and every year they do one and it's a pretty big deal and they generally speaking have alive culminating event with the top teams. But they also wanted to a digital one, and of course, the timing couldn't be better for that. So we're now once again with Nathan participate doing. A whole school, it's going to spend the whole school year we're doing in the fall we're having a number of livestream sessions were GonNa talk about simple machines and Talk about how we might be able to make functional simple machines in minecraft and each week. After one of those sessions, it'd be a contest for people to submit something that utilizes that individuals simple machine, and then from January to April will be the full blown online competition where teams will submit full on Rube Goldberg Machines with him. And you know so they'll be doing it both in some teams will do the physical one, a number GonNa get all these teams to do the digital version in minecraft. So th ridiculously. It's GONNA be Great. So. Excited about that. The building a roof girl machine is hard. You know just normally building it in my craft as you've had students who built them in there. It's just unbelievable. So. Pretty excited about that. It's GONNA be It's GonNa be wild. Would you say Rad Maybe It might be read. It's an inside joke. You'RE GONNA have to go to twitter dot. TV. Slash inside participate. It's ready to learn more that saw twitch dot TV SLASH TWIT DOT TV slash. So I I also alluded to Earlier and then just we went onto this other stuff but we're right now doing our second. Game study which. Allows us to watch Mike play a game and? The way you said that sounds so funny. and. But you know but now but it's been. It's neat. So so so essentially Mike is each time Mike has been playing the game. So the first one was con home which might hadn't played. A lot of educators have used Khan home in really neat ways in the classroom including powder vaasie and. And Jonathan Spike and others, and they both join us for that six week thing and we even had the one of the developers join us for a couple of sessions and she was great and that was really neat. So Mike's Playing the game and we're getting insights from the developer and talking about it and at the same time eight in the nascent criticize manner, we lead a discussion in the game based learning community and participate. So basically each week we play live for an hour and talk about it while it's going. and. Then also have the ongoing discussion. So right now we're doing in the woods and that's a really neat game, a lot of mental health. Topics and seal kind of stuff and in a very in an interesting approach, it's a neat game. I think Mike Probably. Got Into it a bit today. I. I think I'm about where you are. You know from the time that I've played so far? And now we'll be playing discussing and kind of his take on like the book study type idea but. But why not game says a form of media and literature and such? Do you guys ended up discussing obviously the educational aspects of it of how are you going to apply it? To a classroom gave a good question there. Because right now we have. Zach. What's Ex last name? Hurts me and I think Zach Clarkston Zach Cartman who has written curriculum around the game and uses it in the classroom. So we have his insights there. We have a Doctor Matthew Farber who? Is All about game based learning and he was the one who initially Recommended it, and we have Dr Kelly Dunlap who is a clinical psychologist and college professor who uses games extensively in her teaching. So. Yes. So the idea is like, where can these and these are our? It's funny I say deep games because they really are but. But you know they allow for a lot of you know. Really. Important conversations, and again, it's like you know we we we look at these novels and we talk about. The setting in the theme and the plot and the characters characterization and all of those things and. They all apply. So beautifully to some of these games. So you know we're just using it as a form of media. It's funny. What I've liked about the game studies both Games is that I guarantee you there are people that have played both of these games in just like jammed through them went and them in not thought anything about. The stuff that we're talking but and that's what's so great about having you know Paul and John and and then Kelly and and and and sack on is that is that these people are thinking deeply about these games and and there is depth to these games. The funny thing about both of these Games is that they're they're also fairly short You know we played through gun home in in just under six hours. And Rangel playthrough night in the woods in about the same amount of time But the but the actual depth of the content is is astounding to be completely honest. We I mean, even just in the the the the stream we did today I mean there was like it was like Inter relational parental. Yes. You know relationships there was You know designer choice as as far as how characters are are received There was a lot of talk about you know the the the the main character herself and like tons of tons of really deep interesting questions that are worth talking about, and you can see why a game like this is better called a a an interactive novel than almost anything. True, there's there's tons of depth to this game, which is amazing. That is interesting when you bring that up to about the type of game like I think we've moved in such interesting directions with what a game can be in terms of the way it is experienced You know because even think of like I, remember when I first played any of the Telltale Games Like walking dead I mean I felt like for me. I was involved in the story and the narrative rather than just consuming it. But yet, it wasn't a whole lot of action. It was a lot of. Thought and decisions and the decisions sometimes don't even really matter that much. But you know we talked today about how that does give the player agency just being able to be involved in those decisions and. But I do think it. Like I said, I mean the some of the topics that you can get into with a Lotta Games. Is really meaningful. It might be a it's probably a good way for a lot of people to explore some of these tougher topics and you know empathy and and and relatedness when it comes to like mental illness like I. think There's a lot of people who. Can Relate to what these characters are going through and it kind of opens up this thing like you know. I'm always thinking that I'm you know alone in this struggle and You know when we can open find an avenue to open up that dialog and we gotta do it carefully I. Mean it's really great that we have somebody like Kelly involved and I think you have to be careful as an educator, not just open up these. Big Topics without thought. Without possibly the support you need but but if done properly, it's it's really I mean it will definitely powerful. So often Steve in schools when we talk about social emotional learning or anything of these ten, a very important but deep topics. I think a lot of districts reach out that have reached out in the past to kind of these canned curriculum things and often that those things are are quickly rejected by our students because they can see right through them yet they already know fake. And it's it's very difficult and also to for the educators. Because they don't believe in either. So when you don't even believe in your expected to deliver something. It's really difficult and and that's the times when I think. Things like obviously we've done it in the past with like literature and now adapting that to you know when when you have these English teachers, he's literature teacher teaching these wonderful. Concepts in these novels but then relating it back to the students is lives in those are powerful moments. Those exact same moments are happening within these games and that's the part where if you can pull. Those items and then be able to have those deep discussions with the kids in class. That's really the essence of flake fantastic teaching and learning. But in this case to using an actual game as you just described as a As not only an art form but as a educational tool and I think that's where at if people are listening to the pocket, they're like, I never could see a video game. You know as this kind of thing where it could be used for those purposes but my goodness it in so many cases it can and the kids. Relate to it to. Dismiss. It's more like, Hey, yeah, I wanNA talk about that more. Let's. Let's discuss that then. It becomes then the conversation about them not the game anymore which is exactly the kind of stuff that we. are expected as educators to to to that to check in with their kids, but it's Zuber plex difficult to do. I don't know if there's a question there but. I was hanging onto your every word Glenn Because I. Agree One hundred percent, and I think it comes down to the truth that we can use games to text I. Think we've always been talking about how it's just a different form of media, and like you said, if that's what if we're able to reach our kids. Better that way that's you know that's where we need to be be be be providing an opportunity. You know it doesn't mean we're not going to study literature, but it's it's a very valid form of. Of Narrative that you know in text that. And Art that should be. Really leveraged in that way for sure. So Steve, if people want to connect with you that aren't already connected with you on social media or they want to learn more about you in the things that you're actually working on because there's so many amazing things that you just. talked our about how can they connect with you? So absolutely. Twitter I mean that's my my second home or my first time. It's at Mr under like Mr Underscore Isaacs. I S. CS on twitter. Awesome thanks so much. Ben, thank, you guys always good to be here. Thanks for listening to on education. 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Episode 4: We want the dead to come back to us.

The American War

22:46 min | 3 years ago

Episode 4: We want the dead to come back to us.

"Seventeen my best friend, and I went down in the Marine Corps. I'd always dreamed of being a marine. And. How? I knew I wasn't going to be a man right away. But I was going to be a marine and that was enough. I'd be doing something mature. And I'd be doing something that was important. And there was a war on. I wanted to piece of. That's former marine John must grave in a clip from Vietnam war Americans who signed up to fight in Vietnam did so for lots of different reasons some of them like Crocker wanted to do what they saw as their part if the international spread of communism at twelve you started a diary in which he kept track of Cold War events. I hate read he wrote, and he admired most those who had proved willing to sacrifice themselves for calls. Others thought the military would toughen them up give them chances to be heroes. One doesn't want to trivialize it. But it was my chance to be the star of my own John Wayne movie and some figured that. If they died, at least their families would be provided for then my mother would be able to received a ten thousand dollars insurance policy. I thought that was a lot of money my Moby rich by die in she'll be rich. They didn't necessarily know what they were getting into or that they would be fighting hardened. Fashionable troops. But they saw just how difficult the war would be long before their bosses in Washington. More willing to admit the truth to tell their stories and the stories of their families, Ken burns, Lynn, Novick and their coworkers. Crisscrossed the country they spoke to veterans look through local archives and for one family even brought part of the past back to life. And they've started making connections between Vietnamese veterans and American ones helping them. Both learn more about some of the most important moments war. I'm Melissa Rosenberg. And you're listening to the American war a podcast about how America lost its way in Vietnam. And how Ken burns and Lynn Novick are trying to help us. Find our way back. I'm back with Ken to talk about the fourth episode of their documentary. Yes. One evening when I was reading to Denton before he went to sleep. I shows a passage from Henry the fifth. Which is he today that sheds his blood with me? She'll be my brother and gentlemen in England. Now, a bed chill think themselves accursed, they were not here and hold their manhood sheep, while any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin day. Can I before you ask a question? Can I just say something nobody has to relive for strangers? The worst thing that's happened to them and yet Jean Marie and Carol shared with us the worst time of their lives. And there is no other moment in the film more pointing to me now, I'll start crying then the very opening of episode three in which Jean Marie is reading to him from Shakespeare's Henry, the fifth, and it's the same Crispin day speech. And you know, it's all about how you're not gonna feel as much of a man if you are a bed in England rather than on this battlefield and something crosses her face. Like, oh my God. This is what I did I helped arm him to be who he became. And it's one of the most powerful moments that we've ever been privileged to sort of capture and and put their and I have only the highest gratitude for their courage, and and it's not even that it goes beyond that they were really willing to come to a screaming that we had and relive it. Again, in the way, we had had done it. And to turn around, you know, at various moments to watch MRs Crocker just tried to try to do it again with the same poignancy. She did in the interview. And then, of course, in her in her memoir and more importantly in the way, she and Carol and the rest of their family experienced, what is gotta be. You know, the worst thing I wanted to ask you about telling their story because. I feel like the moment we meet Mogi. We know he's going to die. And maybe that's me having watched too many movies and just kind of guessing, but I wanted to ask you about spacing historial out because up until the moment that we hear them talk about the decision to bury him in Arlington instead of at home. I just hoped it wasn't going to happen. Yeah. It's you know, we're we're all pretty sure, you know, there is there's no Mogi that we're interviewing we're hearing a voice and yet I've watched audiences go. Oh, no. When he died when 'cause thinking he's not gonna die. And I think this is our wish you know, we we we don't want to die. We don't want to die. We, you know, nothing. We want the dead to come back to us. And there's something extraordinarily hopeful. Even though all the signs with us. You know with not telling us until the. Moment that it happens in which a mother is not put in a position of having to Claude the dirt to reclaim the ones. That's him. I mean, come on. You know, I I'll tell you. What happens is that? I hear one too many mornings by pod Dylan, and I know what's about to happen. But I'm just experiencing it new and we're seeing the outside of their house on a beautiful day. And the American flag and that is their house in Saratoga spring. And I just I'm always sitting next to Sarah or Lynn or both. And I just reach how I said I can't do this anymore, and they they're like the same position. Like, I can't I have lived through Mogi dying, and Jean Marie and Carol talking about that day so many times, and I will never even if it's a clip and a clip reel. It will. It will hit me the same way. So you mentioned one of the veterans from the war. You've made these movies about three American wars. Are there things that unite the veterans and their families across the civil war World, War Two and Vietnam? Absolutely. My big thing is that human nature doesn't change, and it doesn't and mothers love their children and their young boys is, you know, now or as much as they did before or whatever, whatever arrogance. You have is the past less or greater, you know, it's all the same and losses loss loss. And so it, you know, wars are United because they are big loss machines, they drive families apart, and then some people don't come home. And that's what wars are. And that's why they're so instructive because they remind us again. And again, you know, that of of the worst of us, and we hope. In some ways that by studying, you might mitigate it. But it won't there will always be worse. And you know, everybody feels that this the same and yet each war also has a paralysing uniqueness to it as if it couldn't possibly be different. You know, I couldn't be there. Couldn't be any similarities to what I'm going through right now. And and I think it's somewhere in between those two polarities of of how just poignantly movingly and Mattingly common and similar. They are to also the freshness and uniqueness of each tragedy. Nobody's tragedy is exactly the same. I constantly hear all the time. I've been engaged for ten years of the film production and now in the conversation in the country people who I've arguments. Oh, you know, if they only gotten rid of Westmoreland earlier and put an Abrams, this might have happened. Well, they didn't. And it didn't. And so these become abstract not abstract are the observations and the testimony of all of our witnesses. And we carried them as if they were sort of delicate, vases through this long arduous process 'cause we knew that in in less. We honor them. It that we didn't manipulate them that we didn't sort of have a kind of greed for for content in them that that we would miss the point of having received this testimony. And I think one of the biggest things that I carry that whole time was something in my pit of my stomach that we were going to be able to take these seventy nine people, however, many are in the final film out of the hundred we filmed and just carry them and the essential -ness of their commentary unimpaired by us into the final film because you don't want the essential message, the code of that however familiar or unique or in large measure, both it is to be lost or polluted, or, you know, messed with by us who don't have the stakes in it as much as we you know, as much as we are moved by as much as we are engaged in an emotional archaeology. This is not our son. This is not our brother. And we have a huge obligation to try to be as close as to them. It's why after we finish a film. We're still friends with these people. They're still on our Christmas card list. There's still people we call up and talk to I call Catherine singer from the World War Two film, all the time and say, it's your Yankee boyfriend calling and you know, she's ninety something. And and you know, I can't not she's part of my family because we honored the suffering of the Phillips family that she was the, you know, as she watched her older brother said go off to war. One thing. I think I found really painful about the Crocker family story was the sense that I mean Jean Marie Cocco had such doubts about him. Enlisting and develops such doubts about the cause for which he died, and she and Carol had to deal with the fact that he felt doubts when he was in Vietnam. And I know, you know, it's saying that people died for noble causes is not always true. It doesn't always make people feel better in the moment. But that was something where an attention was just so painful and powerful for me that they felt that conflict. I really have a rare no comment. I don't know. How to say does the mother feel any less grief knowing that her baby died for a noble cause or one? That's not I suppose. In fought that come later, there might be some distinction, but that does not in any way, mitigate the loss. And if you feel Mogi Crocker's death in our film, then you multiply that by fifty eight thousand plus Americans, and then multiply it by three million Vietnamese and each one had a mother like Jean-Marie. There are two things that are really important when you want to tell a story of the family like the Cropper's, I you have to find them. And then you have to convince them to trust you when we started on the bag. I really before we even had done anything separate say with only about the war. One of the first things we did was to go see Tim O'Brien with February about the war fiction nonfiction. And he said he would be willing to be involved in the film in some way. But that the first thing we had to do was to find a gold star family. That's nova's. Again. She tracked down jeanmarie Crocker and convinced her to share her family story. I talked to Lynn about how she got to know. Mrs parker. One thing. I was curious about watching. This is obviously there are a lot of veterans organizations in the United States. There are a lot of prominent veterans in the film. How did you find the Crocker family eventually after some trial and error? I contacted the veterans history project at the library of congress because I knew they had collected all kinds of credible stories from around the country, different wars and the librarian. There said that they hadn't he'd collected a testimony of a World War Two veteran whose wife had deposited memoir. That had never been published about their son who died in Vietnam. And he thought that she was still alive and that maybe she would speak with us. So I he sent us a copy of the memoir, which is called son of the Cold War, and it's jeanmarie Crocker's anguished, and beautifully researched attempt to make sense of what happened to her son. What drove him to want to be in the war and what he felt about as. He got more involved. And so we read the memoir and got in touch with her and Sarah about Stein. And I went up to see her Saratoga and spent a day with her. Just sort of getting to know her and telling her a little bit about what we were up to and you know, gingerly delicately sort of asking is there any way you would consider telling us your story for the film, and she gave it some serious thought. She says she had to think about it. She's a very thoughtful. And she's a person doesn't jump into anything. I would say and she eventually agreed that she would do it. And she said she wanted to do it because she felt that it would be way to honor her son and also perhaps to by sharing his story. Maybe that would help some of the other families who had lost someone in the war. So it was active extreme generosity for her to do that. The family have all the archival material but used in the film. I mean, I just the video of them. According those Christmas greetings with shattering to watch. And I didn't know if that was some of the bay still had. Yeah. So they had photographs of him. And when we went on to MRs Cocker's home, they're interested him on the law and his medals, and they had collected. They kept everything family photographs and some slides, and I think there's a scrapbook and some of the some of the articles in the newspaper and things like that in letters that he sent and received. And we were they were generous to share all of that with us. We did do some research at the Saratoga library as well just for pictures of the area, and that kind of thing, but in the memoir, she had described going to the television station and taping that greeting and after we read the memoir, we said, oh, you know, did you ever see that? Film. And they said, no, we never thought we sent it to Mogi. And then when he died it came back with all of his belongings, whatever was left, and so they had never watched it. And they had this little piece of film that they've got the radio TV station. And so they let us borrow it. And we had it transferred to video, and then we sent it to them, and they had never seen it until. We got organized to put it in the film, and I can't watch it without prying, absolutely devastating. I wanted to broaden out a little bit and ask about veterans it on the American side in general with the American veterans curious that what the Vietnamese at experienced in the same engagements one of the really great. Rewards of his project has been to be able to carry messages back and forth. I would say between Americans and Vietnamese who were on different sides of the same battles. And I think all the American veterans. We've talked to have been really fascinated to hear from us. What we heard from the Vietnamese and much as possible. We've tried to you know. Bring things back and forth. The most striking of that is Matt Harrison who described being eight seven five in the fall of nineteen sixty seven and was able to find an Vietnamese North Vietnamese veteran who was there as well. And that's very difficult because they suffered such enormous losses. He said, it was very difficult to find anyone who was in that battle who was still alive, but he did find when Thanh sewn and when tonnes described to us how they got their to that part of the central highlands a month before the battle, and we're told to prepare trenches and bunkers, you know, dissipation of an American attack on this hell, and that they knew that the Americans were going to come to this area, and that they would want to control the high ground and that this hill would be an objective for them. So they were basically lowering the Americans into a trap and they had a month to prepare. And that sounded to me a lot like Peleliu would Jima which is essentially very similar narrative. And this is not. Doesn't happen every day in the Vietnam war, but it happened here and not Harrison was in one hundred and seventy third airborne, and he ended up being part of that battle. And he was absolutely fascinated to find out that we had thought better was his experience. Ben, and what it was like for him. And he he just couldn't get them a bit. So before we end the show today. There's one more person I wanted you to hear from retired air force chief of staff Merrill, mcpeak served in Vietnam where flew bombing missions that were intended to make it harder to move supplies and people along the hokey Mun trail. He's one of the subjects of the Vietnam. War and helped Ken Lynn fact, check the movie I wanted to know if like Matt Harrison, he was curious to exchange messages with the people he fought against his answer surprise me. And I wanted to share it with you. No, no. I have not been back to the home. Like, I say, I'm poor loser. I did go back to Laos. And with my two boys got two grown sons. We rented motorcycles that box which is on the which is in Laos on the may call and wrote up into the forest I spent a week or so looking for the trying to find the hotel men trail, it's essentially gone. The jungle has you know, conquers all and very quickly. So it's hard to find even smallest remnants of that trail up in those forested mountains, and I got to know by heart. But I did not I did not I have not tried to make contact with any any of the my former opponents. I hope they get the message when they see the documentary how much I had Meyer in respected. I'm a professional. No, I didn't go over there as an eighteen year old drafty. I was in my early thirties. A major come in or. Unit commander interprofessional hired gun. I didn't get angry with the people that I was trying to fight. I went and did what the president said to do. So I don't feel an emotional bonding to these guys what I feel is professional respect. And I don't have to go have a beer with them to respect them because I don't want to be friends. Watching these episodes of the Vietnam war. I realize that often thought about the conflict only on the highest level. Most of my thinking about the war was tied up in policy. Questions did the United States really think North Vietnamese hard hardcore communists. Why did we think that a war in Vietnam would require the same skills as fighting conventional battles in Europe, these are important questions? But if they're all you think about you if you the Vietnam war that's dry academic. Knicks -perience of fighting the war was anything, but learning about Mogi Crocker forced me to confront the idea that Americans volunteered to fight the out of a simple, but deep faith in the value public service hearing that Harrison stories about his family's military service suggested that going to a foreign country to fight can be part of a noble tradition rather than almost eight and talking to former air force chief of staff, Maryland peak reminded me that wars a business to the stories of yet Niamey's in American soldiers, especially when you hear them all together mixed the human cost of war impossible to. Ignore. And their experiences are powerful station of the gap between policymakers and the people who have to carry out their decision. Next up. Looks for episode five what Vietnam war Todd America about race. Thank you so much for listening. If you enjoy this, please take some time to rate and review us, an apple podcasts share with friends and family and find this anywhere. You listen to podcasts. And if you want to know more about the documentary, go to Washington Post dot com slash American war and follow me on Twitter at Elissa, Rosenberg this podcast is produced by Carol alderman. And Andrea new Sarah with art direction from Chris Ruben. I'm Elissa Rosenberg this this the American. The American war. You should check out. 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Quick Tip: How to Double Your Next Launch (with Facebook and IG Ads)

The Art of Online Business

14:24 min | Last month

Quick Tip: How to Double Your Next Launch (with Facebook and IG Ads)

"In today's quick tip episode, we're going to talking about facebook and Instagram ads and how to be using them to double your next launch. But here's a hint. I'm not going to be sharing some secret tactic or strategy. But what I am going to be sharing with you is something that holds most people back from seeing success with there s stay tuned. Welcome to the art of online business podcast. My name is Rik Mall Ready, and I'm an online business coach facebook and Instagram ads expert lifestyle entrepreneur, and I'm a total coffee snob as well. Each week you're gonNA. Learn actionable strategies, mindsets, and tips that take guesswork out of growing and scaling profitable online business so that you can truly become an entrepreneur with impact. This podcast is your secret weapon for fast tracking the growth of your online business. Let's do this. All right. What's up my friends welcome back to the PODCAST Rick Morty here. So excited about today's episode. Quick tip episode quick Friday my friend here on the show this is where you gonNA learn a tip or a strategy that can help you optimize your online business so that you can have a bigger impact. You can increase your revenue and as a result, get more freedom, get more freedom in your business, get more freedom in your life. And today one talk to you about how to double your next launch. And specifically, how double your next launch using facebook and INSTAGRAM MATS And as I mentioned the very top of the episode here this is not GonNa be some secret tactic or strategy or what have you I see this time and time and time and time and time again. Right people that double their launch. Comes from the confidence in spending money on their facebook and instagram mats their lack of confidence holds them back. Because they're not sure what they're doing. So many people are scared to spend money on ads. which keeps them from. Taking action. And putting themselves out there and I say put themselves out there meaning getting your ads out there. So I'm going to break down how to create. This. Confidence in running ats and this is going to be helpful for you whether you're not running ads yet or you've been running ads in, you really haven't been seen the success that you want to that. You really WANNA be seeing. From. The right and the first step in this is really learning how to properly run ads in the starts with knowing. Who you want to attract into your business rate? WHO's your? Target Audience, you hear the term ICA on that stuff and I've talked about it here in the podcast before you know your ideal customer stars Great. But most people think of the is like, Oh, it's Jane Thirty, seven year old in. Whatever town and she's got two kids and all this other stuff and that's all well and good and that's very helpful. Yes when it comes to. Targeting for your ads, but you've got to take a step further and I sound like a broken record on this but. It's so so important you gotta understand their pain points, their challenges, what's their current identity, and what is the future identity that they're trying to get to? You gotta understand all of those things. What types of brands of the interest? What are their activities? What are their hobbies all that stuff right because when we understand the pain points and challenges and the identity, all staff that's going to help you with your copy or your videos, your messaging your video is this GonNa help you with your messaging and then the other stuff is going to help you as I talk about. Having a holistic view of your target audience is GonNa help you in the actual targeting of your at. So within ads manager. Right. So once you understand what those pain points and challenges and their identities are, how are you going to solve those problems with the offer that you're making and then offer could be a lead magnet could be. A. Webinar could be a challenge right and it could be your course could be your coaching or whatever. It is. All things I've talked to ton about here on the podcast so. Glossing over that because I've talked about it and I will continue to talk about it because it's so important but you have to have the foundational marketing knowledge basically. Of Your audience and how you serve them who they are, what their pain points are at Cetera. To be able to message to them and be able to make an offer to them. So, once you know that, then eat understate how to set up your ads for success inside of. Ads Manager. Right in I mean I talk about it all the time here in the podcasts as well. I have people who listened to the podcast here who implement what I teach from an ADS perspective and go see results. I have other people who take might. Take a course. And see results other people. Like you learn somewhere else I don't care where you learn, but you have to understand how to properly set up your ads for success inside of ads manager. Right and so you can listen to podcasts all you want. But my real true goal of that is to give you information but then you gotta go implement it yet to go test it, and that is really the key. But don't go getting an ads manager. If you've not yet done that first step of understanding the thing I just talked about about your target audience and the having a clear destination of okay I'm going to attract them and here's how I'm going to move them into becoming a customer right going to build that relationship with them going to get them into my world if you will through a lead magnet or eleven or challenger what have you. 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Episode 158: Is Voting Suppression Still Happening?

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Episode 158: Is Voting Suppression Still Happening?

"I it's Natasha. Feels and we are the house of. Thank you do thank you for tuning into one hundred and fifty eight episodes of woken free. If you've been tuning in every week for woken Wednesday, you know that welcome free is all about being real and honest with each other and you we talk about everything and anything important to us you the world and nothing is off the table. This week we are discussing whether voter suppression is still like really happening, which is A. Deep, subject great, and it's important in these times right before an upcoming election. Yes. Indeed. I think many of us are sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for this upcoming accident remember. So before we dive deep into that subject which we know y'all can't hardly wait to discuss a couple of things ago over which is a year favorite time of the day, which is Tasha monologue because who doesn't like to hear someone talk to themselves for just a little bit. 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This is a actual questions. An actual question questioned not based on. Ideals Jennifer Lawrence being the hunger games right? DRE Law Okay so Vs Ben Affleck. Oh interesting. So I've loved Ben Affleck for many but actually. I think about it right now I would have to say Jennifer Lawrence because hunger games has been I mean I have a hunger games set to on my leg. So like it, you don't have a daredevil to. Definitely, not. Ben Affleck for so many years I think he's just adorable in amazing. But unfortunately Jennifer. Lawrence really speaks to my soul is kindness ever seen and she just I think is really bad ass and I think that she's like unapologetically beautiful an incredible and just like her own sweet and daring also, I would have to have lunch with Jennifer Lawrence and you my love I just go down the practical routes Ben. Affleck. He's like old man so I would go with Jay, law because she's closer in age to me so we think that the dinner. Chicago letter nature. Being ages but you know when there's generational gaps might be hard for people to Click. Isn't he only like ten years older than us? I don't know I. I don't know. But. I know he's older than J. Law so I know that you would be better to go. Have lunch with a hot check I. Got. You know that doesn't make sense she's going to Geez closer checks. This is all about just having lunch with somebody. That's other people. No sure. That's. It is but see mine is based on the age though you said I'm being an aide just but I'm just being I'm just thinking that practically she probably been. Interesting person to have lunch with I'm just so obsessed with like J. Law and how she's like navigated her career and how she's kind of really stood her own ground in the septic environment that Hollywood really in. And Yeah and it's really sad how they've treated her and mystery at her and she still has seemed to maintain some form of normality in some form of self dignity. So I just I really adore her and I love her so yeah. Yeah. Now. She's maintaining normalisation, but in these election times, can we maintain something of normality? Correct Good can transition Just wondering. A good thing to start with would be what is voter suppression absolutely. So as a proud graduate of New York Law School, we had a former S I had a former. President. Dean Strossen. Be. One. Of My professors as well as be a vital. Element and professor and leader at at my law school and I'm happy to give some information from ACLU as to what what voter suppression is and so on the website, and again all of our links you can find woken free dot com and with that ACLU says, the following voting should be easy and convenient as possible and in many cases it is. But across the United States too many politicians or passing measures making it harder to cast a ballot, the goal is to manipulate political. Result is severely compromised democracy that doesn't reflect. The will of the people are democracy works best when all eligible voters can participate in have their voices heard suppression efforts range from the seemingly unobstructed like. ID's and cuts to early voting to mass purges, voter rolls, and systemic disenfranchisement long before, election cycles even began legislators can redraw district lines that determine the weight of your vote eight gerrymandering. And then if you go to another website, which we also learned in episode here will confer Dot Com, which is demand. The vote says voter suppression is in, is any effort either legal or illegal by ways of laws, administrative rules and tactics that prevent eligible voters from registering to vote or voting and ever since the Supreme Court ruling Shelby County beholder in twenty thirteen Republican, legislators have introduced and passed as many voter suppression laws as they get through. So thus you could see he bipartisan in that. Freezing however the reality is is that there are forces at power here in this country that have been curtailing the rights of all people by limiting and making it more difficult to vote which thus intern is good or suppression what are your thoughts on the topic though? My thoughts on the topic just state one thing from the probably those Republicans that of. Those suppression laws of course, what they would say is there. They make these laws because they want to reduce fraud. That's that's the kind of guys they gotta go. About, suppressing fraud not suppressing people valid legal voting but that's bill. De. And I saw rolling stone article also mentioned some other sort of tactics that are considered boaters pressing and I think it's kind of a newer one is. That such as like blocking ballots, they intimidate voters, and then also the spreading misinformation all that comes together and that's all part of voting suppression. Absolutely does eighth. Grade. Tag. When to vote devote things like that or how how vote validly. Are President said that you can do a mail in vote. Then you can go in person and vote and that's that's project and you can't do that or act yeah job. You can't do that if you own your vote then that's your. Vote in person yet wrapped. Yeah. All right. We'll now that I think everyone's on the same table same page asked what is voter suppression I, guess the key question and the crux of this episode really lies in is voter suppression still happening today do the article that I just mentioned from rolling stones at said, the Republicans are now reporting that mail in voting leads to voter fraud and it also went on to talk about how they. Like to launch lawsuits, actually prevent the expansion, a mail and voting. So Mellon Vote Mellon ballots are good because they allow people to vote who wouldn't been able to vote otherwise, not everybody can take a day off or they have a certain kind of work schedule where they have no time to vote. So without the mail in ballots, how they do that absolutely dimension if you're overseas and you have to vote. Mellon votes. Able to you may not even be present here during the times when voting is there. So I think that's kind of like the latest form of suppression is trying to present Mellon, Mellon bow and trying to decrease the rate rated that states expanding male imbalanced because there was a time where they were actually growing it in the lot of states were and it was a bipartisan thing and everybody agreed that mail in voting was good but then something happened and everything pulled the switch now Republicans are all up in arms against Jeff that's A. New thing though yeah I mean to be frank and honest right because that's what he's all about. There has been an election period where I physically was incapable of voting because I was working we lived in Long Island I was working in the city and I didn't get off until like well past the time for when I could vote in person and at that time New York did not allow the male invalid. I. Still Don't think I'm not sure absentee valid but you gotta make a valid reason you do it with a certain cutoff. Hard do able to vote, but it just turned out changed I've got home at nine, thirty, six in the ballots closed at like nine, and that's what it was and so if we had more options availabilities for people to vote than, we don't curtail people from being able to live their lives because some people can't take off from work some people don't have the luxury of being able to vote we. Live and work in hours apart from each other it becomes a problem. So absolutely, I really excited to be in a state like Arizona where we have Mellon of voter options and that's and do for standard author just as a standard tastic egg given what's going on with Kuban exactingly, you can mail it in and not be discomforted. So love it. Love it. Love it. Now, when it comes to is voter suppression real the answers hells there, and again going back to aclu they break it down into kind of what are the different categories for which is voter suppression is happening. So this is a long conversation. Let's go through a guys bursts voter ID. Laws. So they say thirty six states have identification requirements at the polls. Seven states have strict photo ID laws which voters must present one of a limited set of forms of government issued photo I. D.'s in order to cast regular ballot. No exceptions. These strict laws are part of an ongoing strategy to suppress the vote and it works voter ID laws have been estimated by the US. Government. Accountability Office to review reduce voter turnout by two to three percentage points translating to tens of thousands of votes loss in a single state quite significant. Now, over twenty one, million US citizens do not have government issued photo identification. Let me repeat that according to the ACLU over twenty one, million US citizens don't have government issued photo identification that's because I be cards aren't always. Accessible for everyone, the idea itself can be costly an even when ideas are free applicants must incur other expenses to obtain the underlying documents that are needed to get the ID. This can be a significant burden on people in lower income communities. Further, the travel requirement at is an obstacle for people with disabilities, the elderly on people living in rural areas. Sorry to note. So that's one. Voter suppression next would be voter registration restrictions. So restricting the terms and requirements of registration is one of the most common forms of voter suppression according to the ACLU restrictions can include required documents to prove citizenship or identification onerous penalties for voter registration drives limits. The window of time which voters can register politicians often use unfounded claims of voter fraud like you mentioned to try to justify registration restrictions in twenty eleven Kansas Secretary of state. Chris Quebec championed the law requiring Kansan people from Kansas to vote citing false claims of non-citizen voting. Most people don't carry the required documents on hand like a passport or birth certificate, and as a result, the law blocked over thirty thousand people from Kansas from voting the ACLU sued and defeated the law in two thousand eighteen incredible that. Just in this country alone now, some states require strict registration by allowing people to register long in advance of an election. For example, New York requires voters to register at least twenty five days before the election, which imposes an uneasy burden on the right to vote by forcing voters to register before the election even becomes saline to the public. It discourages people from registering in the first place these outdated. Restrictions which were designed for a time when registration forms were exclusively completed with pen and paper and transmitted via snail mail can significantly impact voter participation. For instance, Aclu says, in the Twenty Sixteen presidential election over ninety thousand New Yorkers were unable to vote because their applications did not meet the twenty five day cutoff and the state had the eighth worst turnout rate in the country that You're York place. That's one next type of voters. voter suppression to think about is voter purges of cleaning up the voter rolls can be responsible part of election administration because many people move dire become eligible to for other reasons. But sometimes, states uses process as a method of mass disenfranchised disenfranchises chance men, which means that pershing eligible voters from rolls of for illegitimate it illegitimate reasons or based on inaccurate data, and often without adequate noticed the voters a single purge can stop up to hundreds of thousands of people from voting. Often voters only learn they've been purged when they show up at the polls on election day that's Uber. Stills voter purges have increased in recent years a recent Brennan Center study found that almost sixteen million voters were polled words from the roles between twenty fourteen in two thousand sixteen and that jurisdictions with a history of racial discrimination, which are no longer subject to pre-clearance. After the Supreme Court gutted the voting writing acts and had significantly higher purge raids the most common. Purging voter rolls are to filter out voters who have changed their address died or have failed to vote in recent elections. States often conduct such purges using in data booting voters who don't even fall within the targeted category in Two Thousand Sixteen Arkansas purged. Thousands of voters for so-called felony convictions even though some of the voters had never been convicted of a felony at all and in two thousand thirteen Virginia pers thirty, nine, thousand voters. On data that was later found had an error rate of up to seventeen percent. You are now listening to Logan free. And Free Bokan free. podcast gets real and personal. Again, this is all coming from ACLU. You can find the link. DOT, com super disappointing, and highly enraging. Type of Voter Suppression Felony Disenfranchisement Franchise meant. So here a felony convicted conviction can come with drastic consequences including the loss of your right to vote. But different states have different laws obviously some band voting only during incarceration some ban voting for life. Some Ban people while on probation or parole others ban people from voting only while incarcerated and some states like Maine, and Vermont don't disenfranchise people with felony convictions at all the fact that these laws vary. So dramatically only adds to the overall confusion that voters face, which is a form of voter suppression itself right because if you don't know where you stand because you have to look at, it's not. Unanimous Law all the state was unanimous. As I did as well so that interesting and ACLU goes on to say due to racial bias in the criminal justice. System Felony disenfranchisement laws disproportionately affect black people who often face harsher sentences than white people for the same exact offense. So it should come to no surprise that many of these laws are rooted in the Jim Crow Era when legislators tried to black. To Block black-americans newly one right to vote by enforcing poll taxes, literacy tests and other barriers that were nearly impossible to me to this day the states with the most extreme disenfranchisement laws have also have long records of suppressing the rights of black people in Iowa system permanent disenfranchisement paired with the most disproportionate rate of black people in the nation has resulted in the. Disenfranchisement of an estimated one in four voting age black men. So that's really interesting. Now, the next form of voter suppression would-be Gerrymandering. So every ten years states redraw district lines based on population data gathered and the census legislators use these district lines to allocate representation in Congress and state legislators when redistricting redistricting is conducted properly, district lines are redrawn to reflect population changes. And racial diversity but too often states use redistricting as a political tool to manipulate the outcome of elections that's called Gerrymandering, a widespread undemocratic practice that stifling the voice of millions of voters. So guys it goes on and on but the ACLU A if you've never checked them out is such a wonderful incredible resource. I mean I'm biased because like I said Nadine Strossen was. Obviously leader of that organization and a prominent voice at NASA, my law school. So I'm partial to them but definitely check them out. Now, what are your thoughts on all of those things before we kind of keep the train moving? It's good to know about our you go there. You really get can get caught off guard with all the people being incarcerated the black men specifically credible and. There was some good information in there. The Mark I said never knew before I thought I thought it was like a federal thing that you couldn't. I didn't. I didn't realize by states. So then technically states could just say it doesn't matter if you're correct convict, you can still sell empower people who have felony convictions eight because they know the history of what it is to be a person of color in the criminal justice system and your wrongly convicted. Years Lawson voting like, what's the? What's the retribution for that and I mean, I don't even understand why you suppress the con- well, I mean, I understand why they do it but I don't think. You committed crime. Now you lost the right to vote I don't see. I think just because he violate crime. Violate law doesn't mean you're completely lawless in nature. It means you made a mistake potentially not necessarily potentially you made a mistake, but are we not a system that gives second chances as American the system of American dreams and pursuing your goals so why be? Maybe if they were committing some mass voting. Yeah, if you. committed. against. The system against booting. Oh Yeah you might be trying to try game but other than that of these are unrelated. Crime or if you did like petty. Link essentially you know mayor would even I mean it's messed up. But even if you did armed robbery, you can't vote now I know why does that? Have to do with the I think. Oranges, here it seems different. Just, because you're willing to do that means you don't know you want to up your. Voice, no longer matters which is very, it's an interesting stance. As a nation that we're taking on that, and so they really need to think about the deeper picture here, and it's like, what are we saying to that popular? Because just because you make a mistake and you enter our criminal justice system, do we not want these people to be active participants when they serve their time? They do what they need to do how are they ever GonNa? A yeah. They're still American citizens. They're still human beings and their voice will always matter has always been they'll be affected by. Iraq. So don't they have a right to choose who's impacting their direct? Pay Taxes like you're. Didn't. Of. Taxes. Right now, how they WANNA roll here very interesting. What do you think we can do to prevent this voter suppression. Absolutely. So either, I really liked what ACLU suggested, which is not too many things but I think it's meaningful each and every that they provided. So I states can enact measures to encourage rather than suppress voting automatic online and same day voter registration encourages participation and reduces chance of error early voting helps people would travel or accessibility concerns participate in the process and states must enforce the protection of the Voting Rights Act, and then on an individualistic level, they suggest the following the best way to fight voter suppression is to vote and here's how to ensure your vote is protected. One speaking to our senators to pass. The are a which would reinstate critical protections against voter suppression left behind was Prime Court. Got after they gutted the voting rights act in two, thousand thirteen, and then of course, knowing your rights, the ACLU has a guy that again when you click on the link will confer dot com you can see a lot of the times whether it's like what you were saying, which is with misinformation or being intimidated. There's things that you need to understand when it comes to what your rights are when you go to vote and if people try to stand in your way or get in your face or whatever. So there's that and then of course, utilizing social media to spread awareness about. Yourself. We spend a lot of time on social media talking about funny cats and dogs and working for Jesus. Are we talking about voting I love a good work I love a good about voting I've seen ads and stuff about that. Okay. But we've seen ads but again is the same type of attention. We're GONNA pay to as as we are when everyone in our community is talking about it right when we can't like same thing when Watt came out, people can't stop talking about what I can't stop thinking about what Lake that's wrong is everything. It's nuts but like you need the for voting song like that. A Walk. In this house. Votes and there's house is out the boats the. Better would. You. Better, go out and vote Y'all get your life together. But either way we really eat up certain can have social content or content just lends for the levity of life but we also camper get that we as a community also speak on things that are not so fun and that don't require working such as suppression. Things that are getting in the way of us being able to have control and have our voice be heard in this political system, which we all agree to what we want and need in this society. Okay I think of like a few concrete things to happen and I think asked to happen on a federal level and we need to have the option for universal Mellon voting also universal online voting on. Let's get together. If, you have a social security number. You should be able to vote what's this register or a Dhaka number you know gear you know there's other numbers to whatever it is but you if you have certain forms that help you pay taxes, you should build a vote. But definitely need to be right. because. You're paying the politicians that you can't let that doesn't make any sense how you electing people. That, you don't have your taxes, but you don't. You can't vote I mean that doesn't make any sense shouldn't even be an issue everybody vote easily and they're. Paying for food bedroom seeming crazy good. Just needs to be a federal law they need to up that suppression act and just make a universal boating. That's to be to be like a universal voting act that makes it. So everybody does have an opportunity to vote and that's an factions. Do we can't get an all like nitpicky and stuff and just because people want to manipulate who actually gets elected has not cool like we need to make it very standardized like standardized tests or needs. Something everybody has access to let's act in this day and age of communication we can't get everybody to vote makes no sense. There's votes in this house. Exactly. Exactly. Go here we go. So what's what's what's the scenario? It's scenario time guys scenario one Ivan walked down to his local polling place where he was promptly greeted by group called morally conscious voters united. They asked if Ivan had voter's registration corn, he did not and was turned away. Is this a form of voter suppression? Yes. It definitely is because Adair are depending upon the state you live in their multiple forms of identification that you can. Provide, maybe he didn't have a voter registration card, but he could have had his State ID card. He could have had his birth certificate. He could have had his passport he could have had also there are some things where you can Kinda like put in a vote, but then it needs to be substantiated at a later date forget the term that's used with that. But there are multiple ways you shouldn't just go to voting Poland. Bill or no possibly. There's different different. Yeah. It might be an Ansi belt but either way he shouldn't have gone. He shouldn't have been turned away and this is a form of voter suppression because by sending him away, that's one less vote that's GonNa Count, and that is not correct. So shame on that or fictional organization, I hope. Yes. The scenarios based off of real life thing that actually happened and it happens the all this is part of voter suppression like you just said he at the nail on us because there's actually groups out there funded by the Republican like packs. The ones they fund these groups that go out in the name of voter fraud prevention. That's what they go by, but they actually do this then they ask them questions. Yeah. Because then asking for that registration car when it wasn't even needed and he was already in the like he didn't even the person didn't even get to enter the polling place they they weren't even allowed to enter. Even though their name was on the books and they're ready to vote. No that legal, it was called the police about. Called somebody the end of the day, he should be entitled to vote so that Yeah. Definitely. Alert guys that's voter suppression though that is not called voter fraud prevention that that is not what that is. You're actually not allowing someone who can vote vote come on now pretty, and it's real stuff scenario to Marianne and egon think they can prevent voting fraud in their district they planned to hire navy seals as poll-watchers who can challenge any voter to prove their legitimacy. Is this a good idea or just voter suppression in disguise definitely voter suppression again, that's a form of intimidation. It sounds like to me you're trying to hire a group of people which I don't even know lake the legal. Consequence of that, but depends on the state, some states allow anybody to be a poll watcher Haas. Yes. That is a real term. There's going to be very, very ability per state however that to me sounds like voter suppression, it sounds really illicit and also just downright like just nasty right because you know obviously navy seals most likely they're going to present in a more serious. Intimidating manner you're not like oh I think I'm going to vote I'm GonNa hire a bunch of elderly citizens and dress them up in. Buddy outfits like. Welcoming people for Christmas just like yeah. Like fear take it. Word Stinks Ed. You're like oh my gosh. Imagine if they had like rifles on their back to O.. Polling Slot. Close and like a cloak Ahmad now. Ready to technically they can. Be Like Oh okay. Okay. Okay Stadium. So. Definitely. Not Cool your thoughts. My thoughts is this is a terrible idea like even if even if someone try to say it's not voter suppression why Navy Seals wasting their time being poll-watchers we don't do that. I know yeah, they might be. Hey, it's. Like we. Don't know what they're paying, but this is definitely terrible. Voting should be something that you like fear to be something that. You decide who? Jesus. Goldbach. Oh I don't know if I want to do this. Let me go home instead like you should have to make a decision. You should just be able to vote and just make your vote count. This is crazy. You can't. But again, this is based off a real situation. Because that's what I liked about real life. Well you know what's sad is that like? Fiction scarier than reality, but it's actually the inverse reality is usually scarier than fiction. which begs the question months going on with human beings. And why are we doing these things that's for Scenario three waylon lives in Philadelphia where black people make up forty one percent of the population a lawyer who has advised the National Republican Senatorial Committee said this is likely the epicenter of voter fraud and efforts need to be made to remove invalid voters is this unsubstantiated claim another case of voter suppression absolutely. So again, you cannot try to identify and or presuppose that there's going to be voter fraud based on the demographics of a population right? So having more black or brown or whatever type of group. Of, people in a community doesn't infer that there's going to be an uptick in voter fraud. So that type of rhetoric in in beuys the idea that we're going to make it harder for people to vote in that community because we think that that population is up to no good which in turn is and black people typically black people, disabled people disenfranchised people are the people who hurt the most from voter suppression. So this is not only voter suppression, but this is also symbolic for some of the racial. Crimes and injustices that are taking place in this country to day. So shame shame shame on that scenario and that lawyer. Yeah. That was very unethical I guess you didn't take the. Take that too serious. And he he would need to be. He would have some interesting because it's happening. The real right now. He's a saying that. All right. There's mostly black people they're they're going to vote for the other parties. So let's just not let them vote. So they don't get a chance to vote the other party office. This is really happening like people like the seems like there's a bunch of Republicans that are scared that everybody's GonNa Vote Democrat and if they are maybe you need to change our ideas. If you WANNA get those people to vote for you exactly does do that maybe that'll help out. Elation then look to the needs of that population. Right if you want the black vote, then you need to speak to the morals and the needs of the black community. It's not about people only voting for party lines. It's about people voting base ideology. So what do black Americans need in this country there are lots of things we can have all episodes about it. That is correct. Yes. Seek to that. Even if they're even if they're going to be like the classic politician and brought to promise, these are are doing speaking just to say not really mean it at least it. That's currently happening in this current. and. Climate to be honest. It's not. From crazy times there another real case to. Absolutely. 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Mac OS Ken: 09.28.2018

Mac OS Ken

17:18 min | 2 years ago

Mac OS Ken: 09.28.2018

"This is MAC OS Ken. P. Morgan notices, apple wet. Where is the weakest link and who's Mogi isn't any way. It's Friday the twenty. Eighth of September twenty eighteen. I'm Ken Ray and this is news from MAC OS. Ken brought to you by yours, truly and sponsored by Jamf. Now helping you sign up, manage and protect your apple devices. On demand get started today at j. m. Jamf dot com. Slash MAC OS cat. This show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriotic find out more in that your support that patriot dot com. Slash MAC OS cow. There are many, many intricacies to Wall Street and financial institutions that I do not understand my look, here's one now business insiders as j. p. Morgan initiated coverage of apple this week contemptuously. I think I know what that means. Analysts have certain companies they cover or certain companies to which they pay attention this week. JP Morgan put one of their people on it. Specifically Samir Chatterjee the part I don't get as how they got around the covering apple all year. Maybe even the last year we wondered who would reach evaluation of one trillion dollars. I would it be apple, would it be Amazon while apple has not been on a constant Tara? It's been company of notes and the heyday of the ipod. So for at least the last fifteen years, I'm pretty sure j. p. Morgan did cover apple sometime in the twelve and. Half years that I've been doing this show if they did, they apparently stopped. And now they've apparently started again, Apple's trillion dollar market cap could grow by twenty percent. By the end of next year, says business insider based on Mr.. Chatterjee's initial note actually reading bits of that note may explain why his firm hasn't given up the same attention. Other firms have quoting that apple has historically been regarded as an IT hardware company tied to a short product refresh cycle of the iphone in an extremely competitive smartphone industry. More recently. He continues. Investors have been proved wrong on the pace of Apple's transformation to a services company with revenues in the services reporting segment increasing from eight percent of total and fiscal year twenty twelve to an estimated twenty percent of total in fiscal year twenty twenty one. Chatterjee his eyes open. Sounds like the firm finally gets services story which many have argued is tied to the stickiness of apples ecosystem, which is tied to those iphones. JP Morgan was afraid I phone owners would drop for the Samsung, whatever's next with an appreciation for apple services sector. The analysts would apparently like to see more of them quoting his note. Again, Apple's interest in entering new end markets is likely to be evaluated based on the opportunity to offer services on a large installed base certain and markets. And our view could be of interest, including gaming services automotive services and smart speakers. Smart speaker, Zia say. Mr. Chatterjee initiates his coverage with an overweight rating on apple shares j. p. Morgan's price. Target on the shares is two hundred seventy two dollars. So there's a scary set of headlines floating around online with suitably scary illustrations as well. Props to call to MAC for their weird stock photo. The headline apple flaw. Lets hackers steal business passwords. That headline is true, but being a headline, it's overly simplistic. It would have been as accurate, perhaps more accurate to say social engineering lets hackers steal business passwords, but where's the fun in that pulling from the report researchers with duo security have discovered a flaw in Apple's device enrollment program, which helps companies manage and secure their mceniry esta vices that makes it possible to steal WI fi and -application passwords. The hack involves enrolling eight rogue device and the device enrollment program system then registering it with the company's mobile device management server. There are a number of methods that can be used to do this. How would hikers get the necessary, serial numbers social engineering, basically tricking someone in the target organization into giving up a serial number. As long as that serial number isn't already in the company, servers and serial number can only be used. Once alternatively, says the peace, hackers could surge, mobile device management product forms where employees frequently post serial numbers for support. Another method would be to use brute force software to cycle through countless serial numbers until a match is found once they have a device enrolled and the mobile device management server, the peace says it's possible to retrieve passwords for applications and why find that works used throughout the company. So if someone gets an iphone or ipad into a company's device enrollment program for apple, that device will have access to the company's information. That is, of course how device enrollment programs are supposed to work. Let me be clear. There's nothing apparently untrue about duo securities findings. I'm a bit bothered by the focus on apple in all the coverage, though. I asked nNcholas, Todd, check of secure muck about the story specifically. My question was, am I right in thinking that while this works for Apple's device enrollment program, they can just as easily work for any sort of similar program. If the hacker had the necessary info, which they would likely get through social engineering. His answer. Yeah, that's generally how it works. Yes, there's technically at technical hack into a novel program that could leave a company's info vulnerable, but relies largely on someone in the organization not following best practices. By the way, we've been covering stories like those on the checklist by secure MAC for a couple of years. Now, if you wanna primer on social engineering, what it is and how to combat it checklist number forty, five would be excellent for you. You can find that at secure MAC dot com slash checklist where subscribe to the podcast wherever you subscribe to podcasts. And as long as we're talking about that show, this week's checklist has us waiting the waters of hotel WI fi, how do we make sure we're using wifi safely? When we're away from home, we tackle a few ways on episode one, oh, eight of the checklist search for it where podcasts are served. Of you updates about which to tell you. I, the MAC observer says, apple has released, watch OS, five, zero dot one for apple, watch. According to Apple's release notes, the update fixes issue that caused a small number of users to see an increase in exercise minutes addresses an issue that caused some users to not receive stand credit in the afternoon, and thanks is an issue that could prevent apple watch from charging the update is free. It's available through the watch up on an associated iphone, bigger updates for a smaller group. Apple insider says, the Cupertino company has updated its professional audio apps logic pro ten and main stage the Cording to the peace both apps now support relocating the sound library to an external storage device useful for people who need to switch between workstations. All committee has picked up numerical editing for parameter values and dragon. Hot zones for re-sent asus and sampling options when importing audio. Each also got features update specific to each. So you know if you use either of them, you wanna update that one. And if us both hack, why not update both updates are free for existing users for the news logic. Proton runs one hundred ninety nine dollars and ninety nine cents while main stage a live performance companion up is twenty nine ninety nine. More news in a moment, but first word from Jamf now making it easy to setup, manage and protect your apple devices. On demand running a small business isn't easy. Running down. Your apple devices shouldn't be part of your duties because it's not about running down the devices. But catching the people who carry them and what those people working another office or another city or another state with Jamf. Now you can take care of all of them. No travel required Jamf. Now let you check your digital inventory, distribute wifi in Email settings, deploy apps, protect company data, and even lock or wipe device as needed from anywhere. And there's no minimum by then you can add a device or remove a device with no contract and without having to pay for that device. Once it's gone start, securing your business today, setting up your first three devices for free forever. Add more starting at just two dollars a month per device couldn't be simpler and it's hard to see how it can be less expensive. Create your free account today at Jamf dot com. Slash MAC OS can. That's Jay. A. m. f. dot com slash Meko west can secure your first three free today at Jamf dot com. Slash MAC, OS, Ken, and a big thanks to jump now for sponsoring this week show. A pair of lawsuits about which to tell you. Apple insider says, apple of Cupertino is being sued for alleged patent infringement tied to its encrypted. I message and FaceTime services as well as it's always on VPN technology used in its mobile device management offering. Do I here that's dangerous. The finish holdings berm MP age technologies says it tried to license its contested intellectual property in twenty sixteen apple looked over the offer and declined saying it didn't believe a license was required as the sorted patents were not infringed and or in ballad as m. p. h. appeared to be interpreting the claims. The peace says, MPA is looking for undetermined compensation for the alleged infringement and a permanent injunction prohibiting further use of the patents in question. The other lawsuit has apple being sued over something for which I didn't know you could be sued the Cording to another piece from apple insider. The company has been accused of unsavory business practices and a trademark suit involving nemo g the Cording to the report, a lawsuit filed on Thursday, alleges, apple snake. The me Mogi trademark from. An end droid of the same name through a series of questionable behind the scenes moves one of which allegedly involved the creation of a single purpose LLC. In other words, Apple's being accused of acting a bit like apple. Honestly, the stories confusing. It sounds like the company social tack was either planning called me Moji. That's all caps me. MO g when up announced me, MO, g sort of a continuation of last year's and emoji at WW DC. See if you can follow this according to the suit, social, tack filed in the intent to use application for the me MO, Mark in April of twenty sixteen. But before registration was obtained, apple made a play for its version of the name, the app maker alleges apple formed a subsidiary called me MO fund apps LLC to obtain a forgotten and abandoned app using the name me MO j. along with goodwill apple sought prior rights to a then suspended me MO g trademark application from owners, big three entertainment and lucky Bundy. That deal was apparently reached as me MO fund assigned rights to me. MO g to apple on the fourth of June twenty. Eighteen the same day. Me deeper. I o s was introduced at the worldwide developers conference. So it sounds like the name belong to big three and lucky Bundy social tech wanted to use the name and started the process for obtaining the name. But before it can get the rights, apple showed up with money and bought the emoji name. Am I missing something. The funny thing is the social, tack, Android up is nothing like apples me Moji according to the peace. They're just finding over the trademark that they'd like to use, but never actually belonged to them. And yet apple insider says, social tech seeks preliminary and permanent injunctions restricting apple from using the memo g trademark damages, profits attributable to Apple's unauthorized use of the name and confirmation of rights to the Mark. I'll take things that seem unlikely for one hundred Alex. And finally today five apple stores are set to reopen this weekend. Listen for yours. Macrumors says apple, Lehigh valley in Whitehall, Pennsylvania apple, deer park, and deer park, Illinois, apple Scottsdale, fashion, square and Scottsdale, Arizona, apple, green hills, and Nashville, Tennessee and apple Rabin in Robaina. Australia are all set to reopen on Saturday morning. The foreign the states will open at ten AM local time while the Australian location will open at nine AM. It's not completely correct to say that all three of the stores are re opening to were actually moving according to macrumors. New apple store opens at these Scottsdale, fashion, square shopping mall in Scottsdale, Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix on Saturday at ten AM local time. Apple's nearby store at Biltmore fashion park. It will be permanently closed after Friday. As the other relocation, the p. says, a new apple store is opening in the Robaina town center shopping mall in Robaina Australia, roughly fifty miles south of Brisbane along the Gold Coast on Saturday at nine AM local time. Apple's existing location in the mall will be permanently closed after Friday. So stop on by and tell them was sunshine specifically Twitter's not the was these the one who offered us ingested pronunciation for Robaina for MAC OS can if it's wrong blame, whichever was you alike. MAC OS Caton brought to you by me and sponsored by Jamf. Now helping you setup, manage and protect your apple devices. On demand get started today at j. a. m. f. gem dot com. Slash MAC OS Cam, this show is also supported by people like you patrons through. Patriot find out more in that your support at patriotair dot com. Slash MAC OS cab advertising handled by backbeat media online at backbeat media dot com. You can reach me a couple of ways info at Moco west Ken dot com or call seven one six, seven eight zero four zero eight zero. Until next time that is news from MAC OS Ken. I'm Ken Ray. Chow.

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Just The 2 Of Us

Elevation Church Podcast

1:26:38 hr | Last month

Just The 2 Of Us

"This is Stephen Fertig on the pastor of Elevation Church, and this is our podcast I wanted to thank you for joining us today. This inspires you open builds your fate. Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving in your life enjoy the message. Come on everybody prayed. Let everything that has. To. Whether you're in. A. Bathroom. Come on. Give him praise today. Oh praise the Lord. Lord. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How are you doing? I know my sermon last week was called. Did I ask but I'm asking how are you? Come on. Let me know how you're doing right there. In the chat you use your favorite Emoji to tell me how you're doing. Your favorite church appropriate Emoji. got. All, kinds of people that tune in you know you never know what they'll i. don't want the Holy Spirit to leave the youtube page. Give. God brace if you pulled on, we're gonNA bring it back. Give God praise if you're doing better than could be expected. So in other words like. Hey preacher. That's a complicated question. But when I think about where I could have been in would've been I WANNA put up one of those. One of those worst of hand, the MOGES. come up roll worse. So Panther Mogi and the chat. Away from. The. Party spill South Carolina if you got a reason appraise Impreza. Wow off. So Anyway I just I thank God for this opportunity to Minister the word of God to you and you may notice. that it feels a little different we're going GONNA. Do it a little different today we're having to do almost everything different right now. Anyway. So. What happened to me was that after I got done preaching. To you last week God kept speaking. That's a weird sensation to be done. Preaching God's not done speaking. And I wasn't seeking God for a sermon or anything and holly went for a walk and she started sharing with me something God. was speaking to her and what God was speaking to her was kind of like what God was speaking to me. And I said I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Take that in preaches. She said you can't. I'm preaching soon. I'm going to breach it. I said Oh I'm taking that in preaching. She said you can't have it. I say you're like our kids when we go and buy them Did you ever buy your kids whole meal and then you wanted one fry? And you wanted one fry and it wasn't even a hot FRY. It was one co FRY in the bag. It was one of those bottom of the bag fries and you went to get that one fry. She told me about this one verse in the Bible. I WANNA preach that she said you can't have it. I said give me that fraud girl. So this sermon today was stolen. From. The woman of God Holly Firday. How Appropriate I, told her I'm taking your sermon, but you can come here, meet preach it, and I said to make it up to appreciate just to you. And so I've got some of the most amazing musicians in the world here today and some of our staff that snuck in were here working I told you could sit in the back but. But I wanted to in addition to just those who are here helping me get this recorded I asked him how can you get over here and helped me record this message that God? Gave Holly. I. I from her and they said, we can do it in an hour. And so here we are to bring God's word to you fresh relevant and I believe that God is going to give you a personal. You know what you might want to say in the chat right now say this one's for me this one's for me and those of you who are in the room come on shake tell this for me. This one for me little drummer boy. Dom Look back and say oh no. You long haired. Hippie this one's for me. This one's a mind come on. If you know this one's for you site in the chat fest one for me. This one's for me. Man. I want to share with you a scripture today from second kings chapter four. Kind of a continuation of did I ask we were saying last week that when we stop asking God, what he wants to do in our lives and what he put inside of us and start assuming we limit the potential that is in us because we. We kind of confine ourselves. And I believe that there's so much more that God wants to do than what we can ask or imagined. And so I wanNA share this passage with you today. J. Since it's only three of us in the room, go ahead and keep playing for a moment. And The message that I want to minister today. Is actually appropriate that. That, it's just a few in the room. Because I. WanNa, Talk to you today about just the two of us. Just. The two of us. And so as we share this time together today, I want you to hear it in a in a personal way. The Bible says, in verse, eight, one day Elisha went to shoot them. And a well-to-do woman was there who urged him to stay for a meal? So whenever he came by, he stopped there to eat. And she said to her husband. I know that this is. I know that this man who often comes our way is a holy man of God. Let's make a small room on the roof and put in it a bed and a table. What a chair And a lamb, let's put a lamb to. Go over there to Ikea. And less. Less hookup this man of God. Then he can stay there whenever he comes to us. Now one thing when Elisha came, he went up to his room. And lay down there. So he said to his servant. Geza call the Shuai. So he called her. And she stood before him. He likes you said to tell her you have gone all this trouble for us. Now. What can be done for you. Can. We speak on your behalf to the king or the commander of the army. She replied I have a home among my own people. Can Be done for her Elisha. For wonder. What I could do for what if God is not conspiring about how to curse you? What is God is brainstorming how to bless you today. What if God is up in heaven trying to figure out when to hit you with a lightning bolt or a hernia or a flat tire to get you back for what you did in tenth grade what if God is what if God and the angels today are brainstorming away to bless you in this season? So as I said. She had no son. And her husband is all. Then, he likes said caller. So we called her And she stood in the doorway. This, she stood in the doorway about this time next year. How many of Y'ALL READY FOR NEXT YEAR About, this time next year Elisha said, you will hold a son in your arms. Now. You're. Not. Object. gave up on that. Not. Bad Man I've got. Don't mislead, your. Servant. The woman became pregnant. And the next year about that same time. She gave birth to a son. Just as Elisha had told her, can I read a few more versus? Because the child grew and one day he went out to his father who was with the reverse he said to his father, my head, my head as father told a servant carry him to his mother after the servant had lifted him up and carried him to his mother the boy sat on her lap until noon. then. Die. She went up and late him on the bed of the man of God. Then, shut the door. Shut the door and went out. She called her husband and said, please send me one of the servants and a donkey. So I can to the men of God quickly and return why go to him today he asked it's not the new moon or the Sabbath. All right she said. She sat at the donkey and said to her server. Lead on. Don't slow down for me. Unless I tell you. She said out came to the man of God at Mount Carmel and when he saw her in the distance, the men of God said to his servant. Keizai I've been saying gauzy and. To pronounce his name but he was a scoundrel anyway and so watch this the man of God said to Gaze Gazi look there's the shunamite. Run meter and ask her. Are you. All right. Is Your husband Is your child. All right. Everything. Is. All right. She said. When she reached the men of God. At. The Mountain. She took hold of his feet. As, I came over to push her away but the man of God said. Leave her alone. She is in bitter distress but the Lord. Has Hidden it me. And it's not told me why just the two of US Lord would you fill every heart with your presence in this moment? Would you make it so that there is a direct connection from heaven to their heart and they could hear from you the words that they need to make it in this season of their life. We thank you that anything is possible in your presence. We thank you that nothing is impossible for you. Is there anything too hard for you? There's nothing too hard for you. Is there anything too small for you? Nothing is too small for you. You can do anything we believe. We receive it in Jesus name. Amen. Well, you may be seated holly. And Others, just the two of us. This kind of coup girl you get a personalized sermon. Never before. Well, this is been close Because people were asking me what's it like preaching in an empty room? That's one of the questions you about questions last week and people will say, what's it like preaching in an empty room I said kind of it kind of takes me back. I said I kinda like it and then I could see they were offended. You. Don't want us there. You don't want us in I was it's not that. Sometimes, it's good to go back. Sometimes it's good to go back and there were times when we first started like. Our ministry didn't start when people saw it. and. What you see now is not how we started how many would say that about your life you should have seen me, you should have seen the Beta version of me Oh, you think I'm messed up now God's really been working on me. And the crazy thing about this season of quarantine was I kind of knew when they were saying, you know we can't have mass gatherings of Church and all that I knew that if it came down to it that Hollywood, hold the camera. In fact, the first thing I did when they start shutting everything down, I called many of these same people who are in here running the cameras today in this building I call them. In I said, get over to my house I, want a camera in the basement I wanNA laminated instruction thing printed out. So I can see how to run it because if it comes to it, I know that. I can put holly behind that camera and if I can have that camera and if it can go well, we can find a way to get the word out. It might not be pretty professional well lit in a big room but God will find a way to get his word out. God will find a way to get his word out. So we didn't have to do it we could have. As a matter of fact, what what a lot of people don't know is even before competent professional musicians like eljay. We're we're here to play. Me and holly. So when you're first starting out I just want to take back for a minute when you're first starting out in ministry. You might not have all of the. All of the. Desired instruments you know what I mean. And when we would travel around I told you last week. How Hollywood on my? My summer impact team I was the leader and we would go into these little churches. A lot of times we'd be with. We'd be with little kids at a Backyard Bible Club in the morning. And then we would be with some senior adults in the afternoon. So we had to diversify. and. So I would go out there with the kids in the morning and Holly was PRECIS sometimes, we would go just the two of us. So my say, just the two of us. Come Up, put it in the chat just the two of us, and this is what I always remember like if the whole worship team quit. I could grab. This Martin Guitar. I could. And I could tune it myself by ear because I've had experience sometimes it's good to go back. And one reason I said Holly I want to go over and preach it just with you and I want to remember how we used to walk into those churches and I would I would stromer. DEB debare cord and say. CAST your burdens. Unto Jesus He cares. For you. Castro burdens. Until Jesus. He cares. And you know you'd be going into these places where nobody really wanted to worship and it would be like you'd have to start it from zero I. Mean it was worse than this empty room at least the camera operators want to be here. But in those rooms you'd have somebody who got dropped didn't want to be there. So you make them hand motions, right? Holly Show showing what we used to do. I did not ask her if she would do this. I just figured if I turned on the cameras and told her to, she would do it stand up do it real quick show? How do it higher higher? Higher Higher. Hi Show them how to lift them higher Jesus polly. Jesus Higher Higher. Higher. Higher Higher. Higher. Higher. Live visa sire ready lower low. The will lower lowell the will. STOMP seats and. Lower lower. Though. Stop. Satan low. Super, super. Osgood back because I just I figure if they if they didn't let anybody come out and run a camera of we couldn't get into church we go in the basement and if I had holly. Had the holly. Ghost in the Holy Ghost, we can preach this word come on if it's just the two of us. We can stop him. We can. We can live Jesus and stomp Satan. Just the two of us. That's how we started. And then you know we couldn't. We couldn't do that at night because. The people we're ministering to at night over eighty. Church revival everybody in there was. You know doing their best to walk in and they weren't trying to lift him or stop him or nothing like that. They were just trying to. So you slow it down do something like When I think about the low He say me. How A SMI How. Fill me With the Holy Ghost. To the other most in Hollywood at the harmony for me. When I thank. The Lord. he picked me up. In turn me around. How he plays my be. On solid ground. Makes me. Show. Thank you. Geez. Of. The honor. A. Good to think back you know. Think about the lore. You remember that just me and you. Menu. Singing and stuff like. A friendly. and. Sense. Increase to? A. To care. Run crisper. And then after you get done without him. James Taylor you just call. My Name. Karaoke Wherever I am. I'll call Ron and. See, you Know you're not alone even if it's just the two of us. Winter Spring Summer Fall. All, you gotta do. And I'll be there. You know make it. Christian. Thank you Jesus. You've got a friend. And then I like those hymns that nobody knows to calm. was. Calm. A. ooh. Snow. That had. K.. G. Us. No. mind. For the. The. Hustle. He's Angry. US. I say. If. The. it. All comes back. My Geez. To this now. It's good to go back. Good to go back. Come on. Give him praise. It's good to go back. Man. So. I liked the worship team that we have now and I don't WanNa, go back to doing it all myself. I'm not trying to take anybody off the payroll but. It's just good sometimes. To to go back, put it in the good to go back. And I know you're thinking like I thought we were supposed to go forward. You know and all that. Well, sometimes, you gotta look back to go forward. Say Man. Because sometimes, if I look too far forward, L. Freak out, just look back real quick lion bear cool God is strong and I I believe that God's resume gives me reason to believe. In resurrection gives me reason to rejoice I just need to know how many of you even though you felt lonely in the season and you don't really know what God's going to do. But you have some kind of faith that some kind of way the same God that did the things for you did the stuff back. Then he's going to do this stuff tomorrow that I need him to do. Wow. Even if it's just me and Jesus, some of some of us are watching this by ourself we'd rather be with other people, but we're watching it on a screen, but even through this screen, the spirit of goddess seeking. God's got a word for me today. I just felt something Paul and Silas were in. Philippine. By themselves, I feel like preaching in a semi empty room. Feel like Christian Holly. Up Silas? We're not where we wanted to be the situation looks bleak. Got To train on our wrist been in quarantine bid on lockdown been persecuted. Felt so bad but you bid up. With churches. But if we start brazen. Dr. Savage Miracle. We can get this off. Get this. It doesn't take many if you got much. Just the two of us. So something about that. Just comforted me. Just walking around the block with Holly and. And God was using her to speak to me and I was like wow. Thinking about how how God God is enough in my life in every season? In the passage that we read, we talked about Elisha the Prophet. Elisha ministry is interesting because it was very lonely. The Ministry of a Prophet was A. Was a lonely life. Not only were you standing up the Kings in ways that made you popular Oh prophets would have got cancelled. So quick in twenty twenty. Every prophet would have been out of business. You had some of them walking around naked, some of them were lighting up. Animal excrements for their sermon illustration Tim do not get any ideas for rhythm night. I could see your wheels turning right now ula. Deng Nudity No. I'm telling you right now. You'RE NOT GONNA. Do any of this stuff that the prophets did. Because the prophets man, they just really had to rely on God and yet the thing about saying all I need is Jesus just mean Jesus what a friend I have in Jesus he can't hug you. Yes he does he embraces me in my shut up I'm talking about like a human hauge. Human Hug. I can't. He can't argue, and so as simple as it sounds I, want you to write it down. God. Uses people. God uses people. God uses people and sometimes when we ask God the US us, we have no idea what we're asking. have. You ever asked the question you wished immediately, you didn't ask. I asked somebody one time. How was my sermon? And they started telling me everything theologically incorrect and I said in the sermon and mispronounced. As I and I called him the wrong thing I said man I'll never ask you again. I will never ask you again. I I've learned. Don't ask your kids unless you really want to know other people have this layer of professional politeness that comes with maturity and adulthood. But if you ask your kids, they'll tell you. They'll tell you Graham told me in Singapore preaching over there in Singapore. Try to say that Moses at the burning Bush was lit was the cringe moment of my childhood. You can never use that joke again that it was so bad I said I got it I. got it but then I say anything good. He said I couldn't hear anything you said after you said Moses at the burning Bush was lit pleased at don't try to be cool and try to be relevant so don't ask your kids I feel pretty cool compared to you know if I if I asked Larry Brian Pretty Cool. Don't ask your kids. Sometimes, it's best not to ask. Right. And what? I love about the passage. Is that God provided for Elisha and I get this? If this is for you because I promise you gotTa has a word for you today. If you'll stay with me, you'll see exactly what it is. God met the prophets needs through someone who he didn't even ask to do it. Remember last week the crowds got fed and they didn't even ask for meal. Remember those times in your life where God had people walk away from you and you didn't even ask him to remove them but he was so good that he knew they would screw up the rest of your life. So he took him right out even though you cried and begged forum back and God took him out even though you were begging them to leave him in God is so good like that. He is good enough to give you what you asked for and so while we're quoting if Asians three twenty, he's able to do immeasurably more than we ask have you ever noticed how we're saying that he can do more than I asked at the time we're saying, God You can do more than I. Ask we secretly want him to do exactly what we planned. How's he going to do more than you ask if he does exactly. What you plan And none of us asked for the situation that we're in right now. and. So what drew me to this passage was that Elisha did not even ask the woman for a host home. When we used to go out yet nothing about host homes, we didn't stay in hotels when we would minister in Bamberg South Carolina no sir, you got you got the host home and if you were lucky, you had the bedroom to yourself or you might be staying with their eight-year-old. You never knew until you got to the host home if you were lucky, they could. Cook if you were lucky, they didn't keep you up until two but they don't know anything about a host home. You didn't have a contractor a writer, and so the Prophet is staying at Carmel and it's lonely to be a prophet but God uses a woman. The Bible calls her a well to do woman. But the Hebrew word is great. She was a great one. She was great woman. She was great. Materially, she was also great in the ways that you can't see. She was she was great. She was so great as a woman that she had the means to do something for God and the humility to do it. That makes you great. And what got my attention. was that Elisha didn't even have to ask. This to have to ask you to do everything. You remember when Graham asked a few weeks ago actually I think it was a few few months ago. Maybe it was a few years ago. I can't remember when when did he ask you mom am I supposed to brush my teeth every day? Mom Am I supposed to change my underwear every day these are things kids ask and it's like, do you really need to ask that? Do you really need to ask God certain stuff? There's some stuff that God's shouldn't have to put a sign in the sky to get you to do. This stuff you shouldn't have to ask you mean you mean you want me to praise you today. God shouldn't have to ask you for brace. If. He gave you breath you want to give it back. It belongs to him. There's some things. I I love when I'm dealing with somebody and you don't have to ask them to do every single little thing. Maybe. It's just me as a pastor, but I love when you don't have to ask for every every little thing you know I, I shouldn't have to ask everything that's what I love about our staff at the church. You won't have to ask everything I don't have to ask every single thing. All I said, give me a guitar. So in case I, want to play it when just the two of us in the empty room I didn't have to ask them the tune it he just did that. He did that. I texted Chris this morning I said I'm going over to preach I'm doing it on just the two of US I'm put. Out there in the cameras in the musicians, but I want you to come over to he said, I'm already on my way. I didn't even have to ask he wanted the word. He's like, Oh you think I need to be on stage to support you I want this were you'll have to ask me I WANNA do I wanna serve God i WanNa preach. Don't have to get to. Get to. Walk around thinking our volunteers. We would have these nights when back when I used to be able to shake people's hands legally. Back before it was against the law human customs and social etiquette to shake a neighbors hand, I would shake their hand. We've had these nights where I would think all the volunteers I would preach and I was shake their house. Thank you for serving. Thank you for giving and almost every time they say, no, thank you. I'll say no. Thank you. Let's say no. Thank you I. Feel like quick canceling my thank you. I'm giving you gratitude. You receive it. We're both standing there trying to thank each other. Get to do this. I get to do this I get to do this. said to me the other day not the Prophet Elijah my my son Elijah he said thank you for for for working out with me. I said I wanted to. Work out with you. I love working out with you. I can do more weight than us so it's good for my ego. And I love talking to you. I didn't have to beg her to come preach the sermon today. She said what time I said I don't know yet. She said I'll clear the schedule you know what it's like to know. That in such an uncertain moment of ministry. You got. Somebody. You can count on. That I don't have to ask you are you still with me then I don't have to ask you. We used to say like Jonathan's armor bearer said, do whatever you have in mind I'm with you I'm with you. Do you have that kind of spirit God I'm with you. If the wheels fall off I'm with you if they shut it down I'm with you. If it's good I'm with you. If we're in the LIMO I'm with you if we the hits hi I'm with you if we to get on a scooter if we have to walk with you I, love it. I love and God will send you somebody in every season God will send you. It might not be who you expected it might not be who you. But God will find a way to get it to you and he will use someone. It was someone he didn't even ask. Someone he didn't even ask she just had an idea. She didn't go into a trance lured I wanna be used by you. God speak will you speak to me? Speaking. How do? show-me. Your will what is Your Lor for? is the kingdom bust of the King James English asking God to do stuff like if you get real deep gotta show something Real De. She did something simple. She did something simple. Notice the connection, the deepest desire of her life was meant when she did something. And it's even more powerful when you consider her disappointment. Because this great woman. With a great big house and an old husband. The Bible. Says he was so old that when the boy got sick, he couldn't even carry him upstairs. Had the send him to his mom that's who she was living with. As. She said through the Prophet. Come over in. Some Spaghetti. Come over and and you know what the Bible says. The Bible says she urged him. Has Actually have to ask them to put the scripture backup. They just did it. I even have to ask they just put it up there. You see how this works. I didn't even have to ask they just did it. That's how God this guy that's called a prompter. That's called a prompter. This is crazy. They are. So into the people who are who are running this today, they are so in tune with my spirit and my flow that the moment I said urged them, they put the prompt Iran. Now WanNa ask how sensitive are you to the prompting of the Holy Spirit. Or does God have to push you or does God have to broad you or Kenny prompt you. How hard is it for God to get you to say I'm sorry when you're wrong. How hard is it for God to get you to do something encouraging when he lays it on your heart how hard is it for God to get you to do something that you ought to just naturally do as a child of God? Is Not hard. It was harder for her to convince him to come eat than it was for God to get her to feed him. She had to urge him. Please come she had to ask him more than once. And I'M GONNA sit down because this is too rich to rush through. Their ready for this. Come on over you're watching from it's just the two of US right now I want to show you something I. I. wanted to share this message with just just the two of us. I wanted to show you how God will send people into your life. Even in the loneliest seasons. Even in the season's Elisha the Prophet he had a servant who was a scoundrel he had a Servic as I who had no character. and See Elisha. Knew what it was like the stand by somebody. In the season of loneliness. You remember. Can I go back? To when Elijah with a J. The profit. was hiding in a case. Because he had lived through a three year drought and he stood up on the top of Mount Carmel but even on top of mount. Carmel was so much power. There's often a difference between what you show publicly and what you wrestle with privately. Did you. Hear me. You can have great power publicly. Great Pain privately. And he was up on the mountain he said I'm the only one of the Lords prophets left and he called down fire remember this. You remember this. Holly. Said, I'm the only one left. Then when Jessica threatened to me ran for his life for forty days he had to run and he left a servant and win in a cave and got sent him to fire and got sent him to win but he spoke in the whisper because God. Speaks in the whisper because God doesn't have to shout because he's not far away. God doesn't have to shout. That's what the devil does. The scare you away but he whispered and he said, what are you doing here? He asked him a question. And Said I'm the only one left. Only one you've ever felt like that I'm the only one who cares. I'm the only one in this marriage who cares I'm the only one carrying this responsibility. I know you've felt this way as a leader before. Chet. I'm the only one who sees what needs to be done. And God told him go back the way you came? Because I've already got somebody to support you. His name is Alisha it sounds a lot like yours, because y'all are meant to go together and when you get to I, want you to take your cloak and throw it on him and I know you feel alone but I've got somebody plowing the field right now. I don't mean to turn this into a dating seminar, but sometimes we get so lonely and in our seasons of loneliness we isolate. But God said, I have put somebody in your pack. I. Put somebody even if you are not married right now even if you don't have the support system, you WanNa right now I know what that feels like. I've been lonely and I am married I've been lonely and I have kids I've been lonely in this room filled with two thousand people and they were shouting and on the inside I was crying and on the outside I was smiling but. On the inside cry and nobody knew what? I was carrying and nobody knew what had just happened thirty minutes to go backstage and nobody knew the hate that I was dealing with from critics. But at the smile and show love and see in these moments of isolation, you might feel like the only one but God has somebody for you got even if it's just this moment what if God sent this message today, you've been on the brink of suicide you've been on the brink of giving up and got prompted my heart to come in this room and put holly and Todd and Doug. All them and they're back there but it's just the two of us right now and God is trying to bring you back to a place of understanding that before you even acts he answered. He hears before I call. Followed Elijah. For many years. The two of them had a special connection. You don't read many of the details, but they must have been so close. Because when it came time for the Lord From. Russia. On the day that Elijah was taken up in chariots of fire by the way bonus point. Allied. Joke was scared that Jessica was going to kill him. But he's one of the few characters in scripture that never experience physical death. The thing that you're worrying about may never even happened. The thing that you're running from WHO's this for? WHO's this for? Is it for you come on I'm asking I'm asking is it for you say it into check this word. I don't have to I don't have to run from it. And I love Elisha. Because when Elijah said stay here, the Lord has called me. Look what? Look what? Elisha. Said in verse two Second Kings to stay here the Lord Semi Salacious at surely as the Lord Lifts. And as you live. I will leave you. I will not leave you. That sounds Jesus. I will never leave you. Nor Forsake you. So somebody else did. And it's just the two of us. The Lord sent me to tell you. You're not alone. God will give you someone that you need in every season of your life and I've been praying a new prayer lately every morning I've been praying this just in my heart I don't go. It doesn't take me long just say Lord put somebody on my mind today. PUT SOMEBODY ON MY MIND TODAY Somebody I can call somebody I can put somebody on my mind today. and. Then I gotta be honest. I'm selfish. God put me on somebody's mind today. PUT ME ON SOMEBODY'S MIND TODAY Because God uses people. See See. Yes. Just me and Jesus, but but but God uses people. So so the way that he needs needs us through people and so so the Prophet Elisha he's used to a lonely like he's he's he's been with a mentor who hid in caves he's been with a mentor who was unpopular at times so he knows how to be lonely. So when the woman invites them, right this woman, this shunamite woman, who is a great woman who has an old husband and she looks at her husband one day and says, you know it's just the two of us. Is just the two of US I get tired of just cooking for the two of us. Let's have the prophet over. She they leave and pray about it. You don't have to pray about everything just do something for God. She didn't go on a forty day fast to see if she could have to profit over Lord I just don't know if you want me to give to the church Gimme aside, what other side does he need to give you then is suddenly dot for you. Assigned she didn't have a sign she had an idea. I WANNA keep going how is how you like your personalized sermon girl? Aren't you? Glad I took French fry? Now listen. When when she said to the husband, you know how it's hard to calculate how many when you're cooking people. Holly was cooking for for me and the boys when we were a couple of years ago when the boys were smaller and abby doesn't eat much but the boys now we got fifteen year old and a twelve year old and so there needs change and the other day we realized we're always running out of food because she has. Not upgraded. The quantities of the food is still just good but there's not enough because seasons change and the seasons change needs change and who got uses in one season of your life bridge into might not be who uses in the next and he'll give you what you need for the season that you're I'm anointed to preach the somebody come on. It's just a few of us. It's like I'm talking to you and she turns to her husband. She says LOS ALBUM OVER And she urged him. She begged the profit. Please let me Cook for you. Please Please God. Let me do it. I just let me doing. One of my friend said, the other day I'll beat up on your staff members to come to church right now. I beat them black and blue with a tire iron. I said calm down. This is the Sterban they said I'll beat him unconscious to get in the room I want to be there so bad. And some people in the room probably just feel like I I to get over there. When did you start having to do what God gave you as a privilege to do? So privileged serve guy. It's a privilege to preach to you. As a privilege it's a privilege to do ministry. She said will you please come eat and she urged him You probably pushed her away the first time. You know how you get used to push people away. When you're not used to people being good to you. When you're used to be an unpopular. Elisha. Finally accepted. And he got there and he found out. She Go. She can. She can car. So he came back. said, he would come there often. Stopped by. And he would he In one day. She said to her husband. I. Think we ought to take the extra room we have in this House The Room that we? Had in case God ever gave us a child, but he didn't. You know this woman. This woman had probably prayed for years. Scott Gimme a child. She probably ask God many times. GimMe a child. And he didn't. She would ask again and she would ask harder and he did. and. So eventually at some point she stopped asking. Win If. It was the first year the fifth year the Tenth Year remember her husband is also they've been praying about this a long time now it's too late. She stopped eventually she stopped asking. And instead of asking God to give her something. She decided to offer God what she had. There comes a point. Where instead of being bitter about what you didn't get. It's better to offer God. What you have? She said, we've we've got this extra room here. And, this man who keeps coming by I keep feeding. But. I feel bad. Every time he has to leave because I don't know where he stays on his way back to Karma when he passes through shoot himself. Since it's Just the two of us. Since, we didn't get the child that we wanted from God. Since I. Didn't get the opportunity that I want. Since we can't have church full on Sunday. Why to meet me over at the Church early And why don't we just take advantage of the opportunity? We do have see I was complaining the first few months of quarantine I was complaining I can't preach with no crowd in the room and God said I thought she didn't preach for them. I thought you wish for me. So then I stopped asking, God why can't the people come back and I started asking God? What are the opportunities that we have? Here's a great question. God. What are the opportunities that I have right now that are in my life because of my disappointments. She offered. God, the place of her disappointment. She said, we have that room on the roof that we never got to finish. We never got the by a bad for our son because God didn't give us one. We never got the put a desk in his room for his homework because God didn't give us one. We didn't get to give him a lamp or a night light with ever got the by a mini pajamas, but there's a man of God who passes here and I refuse to stay stuck in the bitterness of what I didn't. You Be Paul oppy Silas and we will turn this prison into a place of praise. We will turn this up telling you if two of you will agree concerning anything in his name, he will do it. So you might be saying I'm all alone right now. No, you're not. There's no stipulation on geography and Matthew Eighteen twenty, his two of you we'll touch. Agree. So even if you're watching this by yourself and even if you just sign divorce papers last week or Even. If your kid just told you, they hate your guts or even if the third person just told, you know we do not have the position available or even if you're dealing with the addiction, the makes you feel like a fraud when you smile at people but there's changed on the inside God came to tell you you are not alone I'll be ball booby silas, and let's make a space for God to I. Feel Praise rising up in this place right now. I'm glad I came over today. Come on just the two of US let's let's we got more. We got more house than we have family. Come on I got more time than I ever had before God. I didn't plan on having all this extra time. God said. I. Gave You the extra to see. Would you trust me? What would you do with it? What would you do with it? What would you do with the extra? In this place. What place the place of her disappointment. Don't you realize this is what holly told me on the walk before I ripped off her Surma. And I started preaching it back to her. I said, this is good to keep just between the two of US I. GotTa go preach. Preach him for for the weekend I got a pretty for the FM. I got appreciative to all of the different countries and all the different people but I started with just the two of us. She turned her husband and said since just the two of us. Let's meet the needs of. Prophet. You know that that room that we were gonNA. Yeah When we when we built this house, we built it with extra room. For the kid. God. was going to give us by. While we. Thought by now in my life, I was going to be here. I didn't ask for this situation, but let me offer the situation. I didn't ask for this disappointment. And Ask for the storm. What would it be like to offer God disappointment? The deep. One. The one you smile over. Rely. Elisha. Is laying down one. He's getting comfortable now. At first she had to urge him for a meal now she can't get rid of. I'm telling you if you make God a place. If you make God a place, he doesn't want to visit he wants to stay. He wants to stay he doesn't just want to speak to you. You're like Oh man I just I just wish I was I. Wish I could listen to you preach all day. You don't have listening all day gotta speak to you long after I shut up. Is Making my place. So just lay down rain. And he asked. What what can we do for this woman? That's what drew me to preaching it because last week I preached on the question. How far will they go I talked about Jesus says three, hundred eight questions and only directly answered eight of them. And how God is a god of questions even though we want so many answers put a question mark in the chat. That's God's favorite punctuation. I think as second favourite is a Karma. Because the comma means. It might have stopped. But it's not over. Okay I'll give you ten seconds. I gotTA. Give you ten seconds for the common. He's the God of the Comma. But. He's the God of the question. The question is, what will you do with this disappointment? She turned it in into a place that God could use. Are you doing that right now? Are you bitter. are in resentment regret shame. All those places that we stay. You know what's crazy holly? In since it's just the two of us, I, can show you this. The question that led me to this text wasn't the the question. That that told me I needed to preach it when he asked her that the first time. them off. She said in verse Thirteen Party I have a home among my own people. But but but Elisha asked again, what can be done for her? Now, this is amazing. Can I drop this? Okay. He's up there asking God. For something. That she stopped asking him for a long time ago. You know how you can learn to live with certain things. I'll give you a version of this. I'll never be free from that just learned to finesse. That could be anything in your life. Somebody thought drugs somebody thought a sex somebody thought of negative thought patterns it doesn't matter. So you say on never be free from it. I'm just GONNA stop asking. Especially if you raise your hand in Church and went down and prayed and okay, this is the time. This is the breakthrough. This is the one you know this is it, and so now is kind of a way where you click on Church and watch church but you only let God's word in so far. So. You get God's word to cope with stuff but you've lost hope that it can change. This is the woman she's a great woman. She's a great woman and God is using her but there is still something that she stopped asking God for what is that for you. Because because after you've done everything, you can do this is a proactive woman. Then you see her pushing the prophet around. If you're GonNa boss ally surround, you've got to be a proactive woman. She's proactive. You see how she's talking to her husband get a table did land go down there I know you're old I know your knees hurt but we gotta take care of the man of God let's get this room setup. She's not some passive woman but in this area and everybody asks one. I guess I'll never be happy. I'll be happy when I get to heaven. I'll be happy when I get to heaven down here on her just I'm just make it through. This value shadow death gossip I didn't want you to make the Valley of the shadow of death, your permanent mailing address. I guess I'll just stay in the case I guess I'll just anxious. I. Guess. I'll just live in this I guess this is just what it is. This is not all it is what can be done for her Elisha. Wanted to know I know she said nothing I know she says she's all right. I know such as good. I mostly stable I? Know She's great. Staying in her house, but everybody has a need in their heart Africa body. Even if nobody else knows it. and. The Scoundrel said, she doesn't have a son. Said get her back. I Heard Gossiping Come Back. Come back. Come back. Come back. Come back. Come back. You remember I told Elijah go back. The way you came you don't belong in a cave. You don't belong in this low state. You don't belong in this pattern. You don't belong in this place. This is not you your child bring her back, bring her back I. GotTa do it. I want to bless her? I've been brainstorm in waste of bless you nothing can cancel it nothing can stop it. I came all this way. I'm not going to stop now are brought to you this far come back and then he He made her the promise that she had stopped bringing about. About this time next year. It's one thing to tell her. She's going to have a baby, but he said you're gonNA, hold it in your arms. That's emotional. Is giving her a picture. Of something that has caused her so much pain. And she stopped ran. I went through depression. And the thing about me and holly when we were talking about this the other day and I did if I could share this with you but. She was saying how there were times where She would see me hurting. And she can only help so much. And she would feel so helpless. And she would see me hurting but she would see me continuing to do what I had to do. And it would come and it would go and it would come and it would go and during that time. I think I started to convince myself. That I didn't deserve. To feel good. So I would cover it up by saying. I'm just going to serve God it doesn't matter how I feel. But the barrier disappointment is not a sustainable strategy. And Elisha said on. About this time next year. The thing that you've stopped as the thing don't you love the passage, he didn't ask for a bed and she didn't ask for baby. And God is giving them both what they did NASCAR. Is God giving you right now. What you didn't even ask for. In a way that you could have never anticipated come on is just the two of us right now you don't have to put it in the chat but between me and you is there something that you've buried Something that God promised. He said. He said. I'm going to be out of a guestroom soon. Because about this time next year. There's going to be blue all over these walls. About this time next year Oh man I could just see us right now on December thirty first twenty, twenty like bring in the New Year. You know like Oh next year is going to be better but she did not respond with praise. Her instinct was to push him away when God speaks something significant to you you push it away but I can't hear that no, no, no no. No. Even when something good happens you get threatened by it because the last time that I got my hopes up this is what the woman said. Don't mislead me. I've been down this path before. Four and it hurts to hope it hurts so. I'd rather just show everybody publicly. How good I'd rather just pretend like everything's okay. But just like the prophets said. God said just like. I seventeen the woman became pregnant and the nets year about that same time. She gave birth to a son just had told her and before we stop in shout over that, the Bible only gives one verse to this little boy's life. The. Whole chapter has been about her frustration. One verse about his life. Here's the verse verse seventeen, a versa. Versa. The child grew one day. He went out to his father who is with the reproduce verse. Nineteen. He said to his father, my head, my head, his father told us. Carry Him to his mother? Verse Twenty After The Servant had lifted him up and carry them to his mother. The boy sat on her lap until noon and then he died. The only thing the boy ever said in the text is my head. That's the only word he got to say and then he died. And this is what brought me to the sermon because the servant had lifted him up and carried him to his mother. He sat on her lap and died in Verse Twenty One all soul mazing holly I gotTa show you this I. GotTa Show You this guy showed me. This was so good and we were walking around talking about it. I didn't even know this was and she went up and laid him on the bed of the man of God. Then shut the door shut the door. That's important. Shut the door shut the door she shut the door and went out she called her husband and said, please send me one of the servants and a donkey. I can go to the man of God quickly and return notice what she didn't ask her husband to do what he didn't have the power to do. She said you can give me a donkey, but you can't give me a miracle. Stop. Expecting out of people what only God can go. This is why we get depressed. We keep waiting on people to complete US Renee Zellweger was lying to you. If you wait on somebody to complete you, you are going to be in a constant state of suspension J.. They can help you God can use people to bless you but there are some things that are just between you and God only God just the two of us. I. Hear God saying quit putting demands on people that are unreasonable. Let me fill those spaces. Let me have that room. Let me have that question. She said Gimme a donkey. You can give me a donkey, but that's all you can do. 'CAUSE I. Got I. GotTa go back to the one who gave me the promise. I've got to go back to the one and I want to ask you question they used to ask us and middle school when we got in a fight who started. WHO STARTED Who Started? That's what my dad wanted to know I. Come Home I didn't get in many fights but he wanted to two things who started it and who won. And if the answer was him and me, he was happy he started in and I one he was like, all right. Let's go to Ryan's let's go to Quincy's let's Role so she so she says I gotta go to the one who started because watch. This is good to go back. It's good to go. It's good to go back. That's why I wanted I wanted them to show on the camera. It was like this. You've always been on my front row. You've always been on my front row. A lot has changed, but but it was US thin and it's us now but somebody's saying I. Don't have Holly I. Don't. I don't have holly spirit. You got the holy one. You've got the Holy Spirit. You've got the you've got the spirit of God on the inside of you. So she said, Gimme a donkey and saddle them up and she's calling the shots to man remember this woman is not waiting on God. All God show me what to do. No the boy is dead. She carries him upstairs. She put him in the bed that never would have been there. If she had been proactive if she would have been bitter about the child, she didn't have she wouldn't have had to put the child in when he died. She laid him on the bed was a result of the prompting of the Holy Spirit she didn't know what it would lead to but God did she said saddle up the donkey the King James says a different saddle up. But saddle up the donkey put a saddle that donkey I know where to go to I know who the bread is. I. Know who spoken I know where this started know who called me do you know who started it? You began. A. Good work in who started. She said lead John Don't slow down for me unless I tell you too. I. Love this woman she's like lead me and do what? I say. I. Love Her what I love about it is she so proactive to build a room full. She's. So she's so full of fate and baldness to say saddle the donkey. Watch our humble she is. This is what makes her crane. This is what's going to make you great. This is what's going to make this year not the worst year of your life but the greatest. This. Is it right here she came. To, the man of God at Mount Carmel. What comes makes him? Happy? Because you're like, her son is dead, what's wrong with you? I know. I know. I know us about to happen. I know what's about to happen in the story you can. You can praise God in places that make no sense when you know what happens next in the store, not the details of it. But I know who started. So I know that he who began a good work in me I didn't learn much. Greek. But also is the first letter. Omega is the last one and he's both he's back. He finishes what he starts and so when she came to the profit Mount Carmel she first of all, she's she's coming up and I want you to know a couple of things from this passage he saw in the distance. He saw in the distance. He's are. In the status. That blesses me. Even if I'm far off from where I'm supposed to be. In the distance. Does that remind you of the prodigal son or is it just me? Sawn Common. A sour coming. He told the Haze I. You said look the shunamite twenty, twenty, six talk as I run the meter and ask her. This is a loaded question. Okay. Are you. All right. What if I asked you that just. Two of us. Are you. All right. It's one of those questions that we ask. That we really don't want to know the answer to. How you doing? I'm all right. Got This thing on my back I don't know what it is changing colors. I'm all right. It's a complicated question. Are you alright? Depends because. This woman would say I've got a lot of money, but I just lost my side. You Alright. Well it depends you know I'm. I'm kind of disappointed about what's going on with my company but you know what Adriana, miracle my family. What questions Are you. All right. Ask Her. You are I. The difference between God, him people he really wants to know. The other people who ask you that? They do not expect a detailed answer with some points. And I love the woman because as I comes to ask her. Are you. All right. He's not the one who prophesied the baby to begin with. What she does. She does in Verse Twenty Six watch what she does in Verse Twenty Six. We said she's a great woman but he said, are you alright is your husband? Is your child alright neither none of these are all right. She's not. All right. The husband is so old, he can't carry bobby up the stairs we're going to give the name. And and the son that he's asking about his death and she does something even though she's a great woman she lies. Everything is alright. She's lying. Like you. Everything's alright this. Is. Good, she's lying like your instagram feed. I said she's lying like your instagram feed. She is lion like that picture you posted from the family vacation on facebook she is lying why did she lied maybe she wasn't lying maybe she just knew something. Maybe she knew I don't need to talk about my problems to somebody who doesn't have the power to solve them. This is a word for somebody I. Don't need. I don't need the process this in a place that is powerless to help me. And I WANNA stop asking everybody else stuff only God can fix i WanNa stop trying to fix things publicly that can only be dealt with privately I wanNA quit seeking affirmation in public places and let God speak to the place come on. Is this for you I'm asking tell me right now in the comments is this for you? She said I'm all right but I'm not really and look what she did next she pushed right past the person who had no power to solve it talking to everybody about everything quit complaining to everybody about everything quit letting everybody know all your business trying to cover up stuff for people and go back to the one Who spoke. To. Start. When she got twenty seven. To the man of God, the mountain. Should hold of this fee. She's great enough to saddle up the donkey. And she's humble enough to follow this. And you've got to be both. She came down. As I came to push her away. I. Bet you got something right now as I appreciate us, we're trying to push you away. Don't listen that. Don't listen them. Here. For you to somebody else. You're not good enough. But the man Gosh said, leave her alone. Leave her alone. This is between. The two of us. See I spoke this stor. I spoke to her. She's embitter distressed. The Lord has hidden it from in I don't know why. Holly. The next versus what brought me over? Because after I preached last week. I saw this I. Did I ask. Stopped. Her. Of course. Of course, you want me to preach this lor. For everybody who's dealing with something they didn't ask for. I was just trying to take care of you. I wasn't trying to invite this in my life I. Didn't even want all this. God You should economy the do this if you were going to let it be so hard that I do I ask. She's that his feet now she's offered donkey now. Did I ask. Our in Studio Comey I asked you to come stay. I didn't ask you to ruin my life. Asked for this. I didn't ask for this. You did this you started this. I told you it would end like this. I've been want to get my hopes up. It hurts to hope the more I hope the more open I am to disappointment. I. Told You. This was going to happen every time I try fail every time I start I stumbled told you. It would be like this I knew it would end like this. I knew I shouldn't feel good I knew. I. Shouldn't try I knew they would be training I knew they would let did I ask? She had the good sense to know. How to get back to the one. Who Started? I know you didn't ask for a special needs child. I. Know You didn't ask for I. Know You didn't ask for the economy to do what is doing right now. I know you didn't ask for. But just because you didn't ask for it doesn't mean you can't handle it. You. Know. What to do with it put it back on the bag. Put it back in the she stood in the doorway where the prophet made promise. She put the the boy that God gave her on the bed. She went to the prophet she fell at his feet and look what she said. Are you ready for this? All this is so annoying because in verse thirty after the Haze I went back to do what he could do. The child's mother said, Ashley Surely, as the lured lives as you live will not leave you. where. Have we heard that before? That's the same thing. Alisha said to ally jaw that's the same thing. Eli. Sha said to allot. That's same. Persistence started his ministry. I will not leave you. I. Will Not Forsake you and God is saying if I did then I will. I will perform it. Empty. Room. Full Room with many with little. Abounding based. I will not leave you. She said you spoke this started this. You got to do something about it. How you know you're growing in your relationship with God. When you can tell him the real stuff at his feet. And Trust them like Pat. Everybody else sees what you do. She's got a big house. She keeps the preacher over there. They didn't know the depth of disappointment of her barren womb only God knew that. Something's only God knows. I Corinthians to says the spirit of man. Searches man. Only got in university there are some things. That I can't say through this camera today. It's just between you and God. So maybe God puts you in this moment. So he can tell you a few things. Just, the tour. Said I need your attention right now. I need your feet right now. I'm trying to bring some things to life. But I, need this to be. The two of us. I'M GONNA use people but. When Alisha? Followed the woman back to the House look at. The boy was there on his couch. And the MOM. The woman the Great. Woman. Proactive woman. She did something that we all have to do sometimes in our life. That after you've done all you can do. The Bible says Verse Thirty Three Elisha Winn. Shut the door. On the two of them. And now, the woman who birthed this boy. has to stand outside the door. And Trust God's Prophet. To do what only he can do? Are you standing on the other side of a close store today? Wondering how God is going to get your kid out of this one. So I imagine that this woman who was proactive enough to tell her husband saddle up the donkey. And a lamb. Rushed into the room. and. Maybe maybe she thought she was going to stand there and give orders. You know she sat kind of woman. But the prophet knew something. About when God wants to do something really amazing in your life. You turned to the woman and said, I know that you get to this boy and I, know you're great and I appreciate you. Right now. It's just. The two of us. Senator out the room. Center out the room. where she couldn't see. Center out the room. Burst thirty four says he got on the bed and lay on the boy mouth-to-mouth is hands to hands. Somebody. Say out loud it's personal. It's personal. He didn't just lay staff on him as I tried that and it didn't work. It's going to be personal what God does in Your Life. This is a personal where God says I'm GonNa I'm going to actually I'm going to actually connect with you your eyes you see. So you touch and feel it's personal. Laid down on the boy. Himself out on them and the boy's body grew warm. But he's still wasn't live. So Elisha turned away and walked back and forth in the room. Walk back and forth in the room. Everybody say it's a process Come on, say it out loud. It's the process I. Want you to say that about everything in your life that you don't understand he's pacing around the room. So he's pacing in the room. And the woman has no idea what's going on on the other side of that door and you have no idea what God is doing behind the scenes in your life and the Prophet is patient. I. Think he center out of the room, not just because it was personal and not just because it was a process. Because it was private. I hear the spirit of God say and right now. I need some alone time with your problem. I don't need you standing over me so much telling me what to do. Summer. Clothes store. Now must spend some time with that thing you've been worrying about and I need you just go right now and you can walk around downstairs and I'll I'll walk around upstairs. But the Bible says that she she had to stand on the other side of the door. You know how much faith takes to stand there with the thing that you gave birth to some of you gotta say and give me my promise back I'm the one who gave it. I can't have you standing over me telling me how I'm supposed to do it, and when I'm supposed to leave this thing with me for a little while you've been stressing so much and every time you stress about it erupts what God is doing. So shut the door. Like the woman with the oil earlier in second things for she shut the door in the oil flowed and he shut the door and he got with the boy and the Bible says, how many believe the Bible? How many believe in miracles that on the other side of that door the word of God did for that woman what she could not do for her so. I feel the word of the Lord. Coming forth into your situation today. And when he got back on the boy. The boy sleazy seven times. That's the number of completion. God said, let me finish this. started. Let me finish this. Got Store Promise. got. Three Short Philly. Got Through but this. Store prayers. And God says give it back to me just. Two of us. God's working while you're waiting. is working way. We. Thank God for open doors. We thank him for close doors. Because, what he's doing in this moment is greater than you now. What he's doing in that room in your life. Is Greater than you know. You thought you built it for one thing you really built for another. Given that space. This is a Holy Spirit moment. What do you do? When the thing that you didn't ask for happens in your. Life. The thing that you were holding in your arms one moment dies. In the seasons. I hear God saying. Take it back. Put it in that place. Because today's Dan Miracles. Elisha. Verse. Thirty. Six summoned gays. And said call the shooter my. and. He did. When she came. He said. Take your son. She had no idea. That he had been based on the floor in there. How many of you? You don't know what God's doing right now but you trust that whatever he is doing. Lift. Your hands. Right where you are. Do you really need to be a crowd to worship me or can you worship me when it's just the? Two of us. She came in. Verse Thirty Seven. Fell at his feet. To the crowd. And then she took her son. And went out. Lord. I thank you that today your people are receiving back. Joy. Peace. And a right spirit. We, trust you today Lord. As. Much as we thank you for open doors, we trust you with closed doors. I. Thank you. That just like your Prophet Elisha. was working a miracle in a room that a woman built by faith. You're working a miracle in every place where we will by trust you today. You know who's on the other side of this message You know what's happening in their house? You know what's happening in their heart Lord if they feel alone right now. I touch agreed with them in Jesus name. That you are the God who sees beyond the surface. You are the god of the question and. I. Thank you that you're doing a great thing. In our lives. Just, the two of us. This, message was for you today and you know. I want you to tell me in the comments I want you to tell me. In the chat say. That was for me and then we'll know together. God spoke this work to me. So I can. Share with you. Just, the two of us. We're praying for you. We're believing, God. For great things in your life. And God wants you to know today. That, anytime something in your life dies. And anytime you feel like yourself. Back to where you started. Stand with the one. Who Will Never leave you? Nor Forsake you. She said through the Prophet. As the Lord lives in his you'll love. God is saying that to somebody today. I didn't leave you. Just. Give me some time. Close the door. Worship on the other side. Don't wait until you hold it again. Come on lift your hands right now. The God who will never leave you. Nor forsake you is with you. In this moment. And no matter what people do. And no matter how. The World Ebbs and flows. Wants you to know. That his presence is your promise. Now. And forevermore. A friend we have. In Jesus. All. Our sins increase to? Their. Approver which. To Khairy. Rethink. To Guide and Go back to the one that started with. He's always been for you. Oh What piece we are. Four. All. Needless Pain we've. This is a different season, but it's the same God. Oh because we do not. Can. Every thanks to God. In. Prayer. Have we try. Anti Travel anywhere. What is we should never be. Discover. To? In prayer just me and you now God just me and you. You know what's going on in my life you know what? I You Know I. Wonder about you know what I deal with. Do they friends despise were saying Take it to the Lord Infra. And here's what I want you to know. In his arms. Here take. Hence you the Dow. Will find. A solace there. Just. The two of us. Thank you for joining US special. Thanks to those of you who give generously to this ministry is because of you that this ministry is possible, you can click the link in the description the give now or visit elevation church dot org slash podcast for more information, and if you enjoyed the podcast you can subscribe you can share it with your friends. You can click the share button, take a screen shot and shared on your social stories and tag us at Elevation Church. Thanks again for listening God. Bless you.

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Locked On Women's Basketball Episode 167: Indiana Fever Forward Lauren Cox

Locked On Women’s Basketball

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Locked On Women's Basketball Episode 167: Indiana Fever Forward Lauren Cox

"In. The lockdown podcast network your team every day. You are locked on women's basketball part of the locked on podcast network. Lockdown. Women's vegetables brought you by built bar built ball. Go enjoy the banana bread. During your workout after your workout before your workout. All three, you'll thank me later built bar. Hello and welcome to a special edition of the next best of all podcast I'm your host Howard Magda reminding you, you can follow us. Twenty, four, seven, three, sixty, five at the next dot sub stack dot com where your favorite women's basketball writers, podcasters videography are all making sure you know everything there is to know about women's basketball and I am joined by someone who we've written a lot about it pipo stoops, and in our podcast, and in many different forms. Now about to hopefully soon start her professional career, and that's Lauren Cox and the Indiana Fever Lauren. Thanks for taking the time to chat with us today. Of course, thank you for having me. I want to start. If I could, and you wrote a piece over at Players Tribune that I really loved about the way you've persevered overcome so much to get to a point in basketball where you have been remarkably successful at every level, and quite frankly I expect that to continue at the professional level for some of the numbers I. Want to throw in here as And those numbers that you referenced were about things like points per game rebounds per dame to me, if anything that under sells the value that you put forward during your time at Baylor, where you win six woman of the year, the you'll manage to go out and play the four when it was needed. The five hundred was needed whether it's the fact that you're able to facilitate. Those numbers are on. Per minute basis, even more emphasis than a per game basis so. I'd like to start by the way in which you think of an you looked at the numbers that are most important to you when you're trying to evaluate the impact, you're having on a game. I think the first thing that I look at is my turn. Assist to turnover ratio and coach Mogi always told us that. It needed to be a to. Assist to turnover ratio so I always wanted to make sure that if I had two. I wanted to have four assists. So that was kind of the first thing that I looked at and then the second thing was probably that blocks or balance I. I think if you look at my scoring That's not the biggest part of my game I'm not the thing that I bring to the table I think I bring other things like passing defense rebounding thing. I do whatever it takes from team to win. You know the thing that's so interesting about the the way you blocked shots and it didn't matter whether you were playing more of the. The traditional five replaying playing extra, Kalani, it didn't matter your blocked shots when you go by blocked rate block, percentage were top fifteen, the country and a twenty six beer freshman year near thirty fifth year seniors, and this was something that was consistent, and the reason why the thing that's so interesting Jr. obviously, you are playing next to tear McCowan when the season starts. We all hope very soon. Somebody who obviously gets blocks in droves and I. Just I wonder how you come to those decisions as a four when you're in that position when your looking to get that block shot when you're looking to sag off and let you know it was Salani, we'll be T doing it. How is that decision made in the context of half court defense for you. I think it's. It really happens within what I can you know It's just how the game is flowing whether you have to come from outside the block a shot. Whether, you know your teammates know that they can defend someone on their own Instincts and it's kind something that I've always had. This isn't high to. This has always been a shot blocking. Area where you excel. I mean not just a question of being able to be I'm sure you were typically one of the taller players as you're growing up, but understanding the way, not just the HAL. Yeah I have always taken descends personally and I've always loved to block shots I. Mean I played volleyball all four years in high school, so I think some of that kind of translated to the way that I blocked shots do since that volleyball would have been a potential path for you if a scholarship and then professional opportunity was part of the sports landscape right now I'm struck so many of times within women's sports by how decisions are made based on where you could advance. The furthest wondered whether Beshir was your true love war weather that played a part in your decision making. Basketball always a nightshirt love I played volleyball just for the fun of it. You know just to get away from basketball myself a little bit of a break because I mean if you're playing basketball year round. No matter. How much you love it! You'RE GONNA. Get a little tired of it, so wally ball gave me a nice break and I just had a lot of fun with it. Elena Delle done did the same thing actually when she took a year off from playing basketball. So maybe there's as part of a WNBA future. All Star stills deemed that can be some sort of volleyball challenge that happens. That would be a lot of fun. I would certainly be here for it. I I do to get into the assist turnover issue. Because again it's worth throwing back to when your game in person I've had the privilege of being able to cover person, but it jumps off. The page on the stat line is well, and so your assist rate is not just a question of two to one. You're up around twenty percent the last two years in terms of your assist percentage, which is a number you typically see from darts at the collegiate level, not from players who were able to do as many other things as you do. Curious in your initial conversations with Marianne Stanley how much how often in the ways in which you're going to be utilized as a secondary playmaker in that way in much the same way quite frankly that you see at times, Elena Delle Don do it, and frankly Emma Michigan do it as well for Mariam's team in Washington. Yeah, she's been telling me that she loves the way that I can pass the ball and It kinda goes back to rebounding. You know I get a lot of defensive rebounds, so she said. Maybe, starting to break the past and then I'm going to be trailing that. She really trust me to make decisions at the top of the key makes an next pass make. Hand off whatever it is so I think she really likes out about my game. You're still percentage also jumped very significantly. You're a two point one percent in your senior year. How, much I, obviously, Baylor and your identity there was so based around defense, but how much of that comes down to? It being something you're hunting, you're hunting steals your hunting deflections, and how much of that came from strategically? What does running? Yeah I. Mean Coach Mulkey always said that. No matter how often fully skills you are, if you can't play defense and you're not going to be playing very much because if you score. Fifteen points a game, but you're giving up twenty twenty five then. You're not doing very good, so she always put an emphasis on the fan whether that was being in the passing lane, getting deflections, getting steel, walking shot, having foot and Elaine being able to help our teammates. She always synthesized that and we probably worked on everyday in practice. I to that end from the offensive perspective. Hollinger and Dunkin her on the lockdown podcast network. The smartest NBA podcast free Monday. Dunkin, the NBA so. It's a strange thing to save someone who as much as you did, but do you feel as if your game has even more room to grow on the offensive end of the floor right now? Yeah, I think no matter how good you are. There's always areas that you can grow in and. I this past season. I've seen in era I. didn't get to shoot as many threes that I did my junior year because I was playing more of the five sedition playing in by so that's one of the areas that I want to improve on and want to get back to is shooting that outside shot, so let's talk more about that I'm glad glad you brought that up because it's obviously still that you've had. You flashed it in several different seasons throughout your career, but like you said your role in your senior season. Allow for in the same way that. You Know Claudia somebody who an off to tell you is somebody who is capable of hitting that three especially hidden that trail three, and simply wasn't having the opportunity to do that. During her senior year junior year as well and then something I know she's looking forward to doing more in Atlanta and something Nikki, Collins Talk to her about doing as well so two parts of that one is. To be with someone like Marianne, Stanley, who has not just worked with a lot of the great bids I mean you can go back decades. She's somebody who coached and Donovan. In College show who has latency of doing that, but also a legacy of coaching, versatile bigs hat important was that. How significant was that and was that on your radar? Come draft night when you're looking and you're seeing the way the dominoes falling and there's a real opportunity for you to be drafted by Indiana three. Yeah I mean I was really excited because Elena though on his one of my favorite players, so coach family has coached her before That was really exciting for me and. She always says you know we're going outside shot because if you have an open shot I, want you to knock it down I. Want you to take it I'm not going to get mad at you for taking open shot, but you need to get the reps thin so that you can make those shots every time. So how are you dating? Reps in are in reps in we're. We're in this very strange moment obviously and so take me through what you're able to do white. You're most missing not able to do with this moment as well. Yeah. It's been hard. I've had to get really creative with workouts, just trying to stay in shape and stuff and when gyms weren't really open I was having to shoot outside, and you can't really shoot outside shots when it's windy and. Shoot and shoot straight, and then the ball curves the left curves to the right. You know so. I deeply objects to Elliott cleared lease handicap. She had to experience shooting outside when she was playing. Horace few which. For just that reason alley quickly who can hit the shots from anywhere? And she's handicapped by having to play outside instead of inside I thought it was. It was deeply problematic and Yeah, sure an objection, but please don't want. Yeah, so that's that's been hard, but especially in Texas, things are starting to up a little bit so I'm able to get an agenda now. and get up some shots. How many in a day feels like enough to you right now? I. Don't think there's a specific number I think just. Getting in the gym. It's just nice just being in there again. You know getting those shots up hearing the ball bounce on the floor goes through the nets It's nice to be back in the gym so I wouldn't say there's a specific number. It's Kinda. Just based on how I'm feeling. Just go in as hard as I can and when I'm exhausted and I know that I've done enough. Let's talk about your legacy a little bit, too. Because I think that we missed an opportunity for you to do something. Very few people have done and winning multiple national championships. That's a short list and so I I WANNA start with. What you make of the conversation, the women's basketball conversation where so much of it has been centered around Oregon absolutely a tremendous year. Sas Carolina absolutely tremendous year. It feels to me like Baylor doesn't get talked about in the same way, which is strange, not only because you're the defending champions coming into what would have been? Epic March, but because of how dominant you'd is world season, so if you take me through just how you're processing it whether you think that this Baylor team would have won at all I'm just wondering what your perception of it all is. Yeah I mean it was really disappointing that we didn't get the defend our tidal because I think. We had a really good shot at it. We had a really good team. a lot of returners that were not national championship team and with the addition of some really good new players so. It was heartbreaking when we didn't get to make that. Run again and I think. Maybe a lot of people counted us out when South Carolina beat us over the Thanksgiving. Break I mean I was hurt at that time hands saying that we would have won the game if I was planning but I like I said before I'm willing to do anything to help my team win so. I didn't get to play against them. so I. I think if we would have. Played an NC double A. Tournament. I think we would have met him in the final four, and it would have been a really good game. It's hard to imagine taking that seriously as precursor. One of the teams missing it's best player. It's just not a reasonable way to evaluate that match up in my in my opinion, you know I'm happy to say that. I know that might not be something for you to say, but yes, absolutely to the chance to see you guys at full strength and them at full strength would have been an epic match up for sure. There's another part of that, though which is you won a national championship, and let's be clear you wouldn't have won a national championship at Baylor without everything you did on that team all season, and that is stipulated, but because of your injury in that final dame, you were not able to play those final few minutes. I I remember it I remember the hush in the crowd I remember. I remember Kim's tears talking about this afternoon when when we didn't know yet. How serious injury would be your how quickly you'd be able to come back. Is that added to that frustration for you just knowing that you weren't able to experience that as as a collegiate athlete and I I just I wonder just how you process it and how you move past that emotionally. Yeah I mean. That was bittersweet for me because. I mean it was a dream. Come true when championship but. I didn't know how severe my injuring was. Be I didn't get to run out on the court and hug my teammates game. You know I had I was stuck on the sideline and they had to come to me. So that was definitely Hark. Just being like 'cause that's. Business casual is a new podcast by morning. Brew that makes. Business News enjoyable relatable and dare. I say fun I interview. The biggest names in business covering topics like how technology is changing the fitness industry and the economics of influence or marketing. It's the business podcast, but makes you smarter and makes you laugh. Listen to business casual wherever you get your podcasts. Goes are all the pictures you know all the videos everyone running out and I? Just I'm missing from all those. That was kind of heartbreaking for me and not getting to defend that title and possibly do that again this year. It kind of made it even worse. I think getting over all the emotions was definitely hard. I cried for a couple of days when we found out the news, but. Just, looking forward to the draft, looking forward to that that future That kind of helps me get over all the emotions when you think about that in back onto the court. Do you visualize it? And if so, how do you visualize it when it's so hard to know we don't know where it will be. We don't know when it will be, and it would be obviously a dramatically different experience from the dame's. You're used to play in front of a lower a large number of fancy. Yeah it's definitely going to be weird once we get back out there but I think. All the players probably have the same opinion. We just WanNa play whether that's in front of fans whether that's in an empty Jim whatever it is, we just WanNa play because we love the game. On the business side of things I saw you ultimately signed with Aaron Kane Octagon hoping you could take me through what it's like to be one of the most after players in the draft how those conversations go, and how you figure that out in the midst of them, particularly a very strange. Period of time you know whether it's the end of the college season or the uncertainty that comes with pro season a heck. Yeah that. Whole Process was kind of interesting. It was kind of like being recruited all over again. You know your arm sewn with people trying to get to know them. then trying to get to know you and. In the end I picked Erin because I just travel with her, I felt like I can. I could talk to her about anything and. It it just felt right for me. She, obviously also represents Elena. Delle Donne is a player you've talked about is your favorite. Elena is obviously a parallel to you in a number of ways, but Do. You think that what Alina has done in this league? Is your goal your stealing as a player? Do you see that differing I'm just wondering how you define your arc ahead and where you want to get to as a player. Yeah I mean I look at her in Houston. That can score at any level with ease. You know She puts up. A difficult shot and she makes it look easy, you know. I all if I want to necessarily. Like frame my after her, because like I said scoring. Isn't the main thing that I do if my team score then I'm going to step up. I'M GONNA their. UPS in I'M GONNA. Do whatever it takes for me to be that kind of score, but. Mainly to rebound I'm GONNA do that if they need is to defend to make good passes. Whatever it is I'm going to do that. I guess I wonder and you're saying it on the ground, so you're seeing in a different way than I am covering it, but if you go back a few years, somebody with the size of Elena Don doing things that she does or a large actions and example candace Parker's an example with these were exceptions to the rule, and now we're in a world with. Elena still playing with Kansas, still playing with Brian Stewart playing, obviously with no shortage of other people look, we had multiple people. Yourself included in this draft with Bela Allerg- well with such a sabally who are able to at a size, six, three, six, four, six, five. Be able to play. Guard still positions are able to shoot the ball from anywhere, and I guess what I'm wondering is whether you think this is becoming the norm, and we're rapidly evolving in the lead toward a part where there are simply biggs and other bids. Rather than the more traditional one through five. Yeah I think what are definitely evolving. You know I. Think the more versatile you are, the more dangerous you are. but at the same time I think that. Every team Kinda needs that true five player. You know someone that can get down on the low post banging around with everybody just a big body down in the post I think. A lot of people my junior year when we won the championship where like? I mean. Is Baylor GonNa? Win It because they kind of playing old school. Basketball and everyone else is kind of playing new school so and we proved it worked for US turned out Oh. Yeah didn't WANNA shy away from nine game. No and it was remarkable to see up close. And There's more to come in Indiana something I'm I'm really looking forward to the last thing and I've asked. This of other people were going through the quarantine. The way we all are, but when this all over when we were back to normal. What is the first thing you are most excited about seeing doing? Maybe what's what's number one on your list? Oh. Maybe doing to like a movie, theater or something like that. like I said Texas is kind of started to open up. So I've actually been like a couple of restaurants. No sitting out on the patio again. That was my number. One thing that I wanted to do so maybe going to the. Movie would be nice. That would be very well. Talks pleasure to chat with you always great to get the opportunity and short, you'll look forward to the other side where you had to play and we talked about the team. Thank you so much for your time. Yeah, thank you.

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Episode 485: Morgiana (1972)

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Episode 485: Morgiana (1972)

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Two sisters who are driven apart by their father's will and the jealousy of Clara by Victoria we've talked about hurts in the past including his incredible film, The cremator and as for as subversive as that film was, it was actually more Jonah that got him into more trouble. We'll talk about that and more including spoilers as we go along. So cat when was the first time you saw Morgan and what did you think this never second run DVD. They need to stop paying me commission whenever they put this out on. DVD, which was quite a while ago now think Kinda WanNA say t finding the knowing but I'm not sure anyways total blind by and I really dislike the cover. That looks a bit trippy says everything about me I just love it obviously have gothic stuff nine of the reading wheat conducted in Gothic and this is like the perfect example of that type of Gothic which does not she end up home film alot is just being one of my favorite tack films ever since and how about you bad. When I was working with the Czech and Slovak film. Festival. Austrailia we did a year I heard active and they double fate. Should we oil lamps which obviously the perfect double because it has the same lead actress and also features epic who is also in? Mogi on now I missed that screening but several people in US went to it and then kept telling me I had to watch it sir like cat instead of saying thirty five millimeter is on the second run TV Day I wasn't quite sure what to make because I definitely appreciated the same gun elements that but it's a film you Kinda you have to really say it twice before he can start to get your head around because it is it's a unique one I remember seeing this on vhs forever ago and this was actually title that we used to sell on. Super Happy Fun Dot Com during my dark days as a bootlegger and manage to I. Think I had a Shitty vhs and then eventually a dvd of this came out before the second run one this was actually coming out in Czechoslovakia and I helped Mary the subtitles from one version to another again i. just this weird relationship with the movie where I saw it but it didn't really register with me because I was there translating all of the net translating, taking the transcribing the subtitles from the vhs onto an rt adding them to the DVD because that's what I do for fun. The thrilling world of Post. Production. It's fantastic and boy oh boy, do I get upset if whenever I see like misspellings or grammatical errors inside of subtitles. But thank goodness that the second run DVD of this looks fantastic and the subtitles pristine. You're right. This is it's so trippy in this place so much into some of the things that I'm always talking about on the podcast. I'm always about doubling and mirrors and all of this, and this film has that in spades and talk about gorgeous. It just looks so good and I think this was the first time that hurts has worked with Yaroslavsky Chetta he initially was supposed to work with him way back when they did. The pros. A yeah and he was snapped because he wasn't Fahmi because he was CR SIDA that I was hilarious to me what I found that out that the Yaroslava done all of pills not not do it hurts because he was from the WHO was the Kademi of puppetry studied pepe tree studied production design, and he won't eat you out she go to family and study film, but they would like no, you call do that make the state or wherever you call St. As part of that whole new wave, he was like always outsider and then he was a Slovakian June. So was an the whole proxy scene even though then he started to work So he goes into film we talked about this recently my can Sam Degan on transport from paradise he go in just by Hassling Zip, nick, renage to. Give him a bright. So Ish, we'd we've heard even though he wasn't didn't sink particularly better. I think he has a thing with the new waivers because they treat him really Bosley in a way kind of snapped him and then by the time he comes city Mogi Arnot and obviously he's done the cremator in these. acclaimed. Then could share is like oh? Yeah. I totally want to work on. The measure of him that he saw was the fast person for the job, and so he just dropped his ego and said, no, you know because he knew he would be the what he wanted experimental. It just goes to show you an his now sold has admittedly he did in an interview. He did say that the episode that he was meant to be in pearls of the day, the junk shop instead of being perils of the deep, which didn't get much of showering in cinemas in. Much of Czechoslovakia he's short was put before a German film that was really popular. He's actually go. So I think it does thing he was dropped from pills of the D. because they thought it was too long. So he was Kinda. Kicked out of that is wow. So you know the anyway manifesto film it does as the ego a little bit. When you know that you'll feel has been seen by more of your human than the NFL out of at I had recently seen pills the deep and I gotta say I think the junk Shop is a quite a bit better than anything in the date. So I think he probably had that on his side for feeling good as well. Watching pills a day, which is for the most part, quite a straightforward film. Visually, there's not a loss of a Yaroslava real like showing us on display. Of course, he did daisies, diamonds of the nod which two of the Mars unbelievably striking visual films, not just the Sixties but the whole twentieth century. Married. To Vera heated UVA at the time and then they kind of broke up within the seventies. So he's no, he's like. There is no agreed experimental especially varies DJ, Paradise. He did a show you saw part of that whole movement and they were married and then everything is so broken down by the time you get to me on. Hits because he's like the ultimate side, turn any into reference in which I think on the second randy. He he wasn't really political filmmaker either that he just loved Gothic in fiery tales and Hora and his closest thing that you get to chat horror director because they didn't make horror films dislike Soviet Union it's like no horror films. In Czechoslovakia no horror films in Soviet Union cinema more fantasy based, and he used fantasy use the fairytale to make his own horror will the closest thing to it so it's not like all horror although he's obviously a wire of it comes from this pace one of my passions overseas gothic and you gotta sit strain of Gothic the eastern European, and it's a bit like the French strain of gothic where it's not like our British or European gothic that sperry four more. The bram stoker the Mary shelley straight or more straight narratives. Eastern European stuff. It's surreal. Look at something body battery in a week if one does is a perfect example comes from a book from that same movement. It's very surreal that was the thing that comes up and it constantly in Russian gothic other Eastern European gothic. It's so weird and surreal. So I think if you come to Mogi honor with I understanding and he's always choice stories this is based on a story Santa Grin Jesse. Mohana. Just he's very surreal, very strange almost like mute pieces and nothing night gothic that we used to from universal in hammer from those classic books. But if you understand that this is one of the most perfect examples of that kind of Gothic on film I think John Rolando close to it as well. And chill relaxed Simonis also, really surreal. Don't. It'll of examples in film and not really upsets me. I know it's Haw is hard to translate it though because a lot of is just mute and surreally sermon, there's not really much of a narrative. So I just think this is perfect for that because I really haven't seen that many examples of it in cinema liking gossip Gothic cinema in. Horror Cinema because it like a study so hard to translate in this. Came from a background where he loved fiction, he was like a very they three person but also us into all. This brings in the influence solve Gustov Clinton you. I'd love one of my favorite painters he brings in and so he wasn't really like a lot of the new wave directors you very politically motivated. He was obsessed with what he was obsessed with literature painting music. You Sue come together Mogi honor and it's just it's Fact I think the problem is a lot of people come to it without reference. They get lucky I, love in the interview study to American they didn't realize it was the same actress. Really confused, they thought it was t different women and because they didn't know her but yet just with that frame of reference guesses, it can be slightly. Disorientating may be disciples. This is strange but I mean. Eddie. A ban before we started recording your friends saw Msakhadov. What this is I love it i. think that is the response law people have to it. They haven't seen anything like it before but they they just love it because it's so much is beautiful experimental the characters and just and the music and everything is just off my soapbox. I think it is. It is one of those difficulties way year it's almost like the. Texas chainsaw massacre person wants aiden alive annual like a will they clear that it's the same filmmaker but this surge radically different in styles that they'd totally they coming from polar opposites in how they're addressing where one is very much from remove realist and Look at them hurts as first couple of fields in the black and white stock leaving aside the limping devil but silent cancer in junk shopping chromato-. A few much more like they've come from the social veal aside black white. They feel like they've been a real lived reality, and then if you've come from the Creator to this, it's it's it's starkly different that wall still capturing that same black gothic cuma and darkness and you still looking going like. Age. will staring into an abyss but I don't know what the abyss is year. At. It is like a I in re watching this. Recently, it was the first film I watched as the then went and because i. when I saw the Creator originally, I'd never seen any other films and then I think beating the base was the next few months Jonah, and that was a big part of why I don't quite know how to process this editorial. Korean watching seven or eight of these other fumes before I came back to Mogi was like Okay I think. I get it now and I think that is part of his. It's not just that he was announced saw at because of all of the things you mentioned. But of all the Czech filmmakers, he I think is the hardest to pin down. He is definitely consistencies once you've seen enough but even he's consistencies he purchases from quite different perspectives what he has no real signature in any sort of like you say it's early films like sign cancer quite straightforward. He gets a bit experimental on the. Especially, fish-eye Lens, which he uses a lot in this. The, every single one of his films apart from perhaps be in the beast in the ninth heart because they were made back to back. They are all different because he seemed to go into every project into experiment. MMA thing that pulls them together is the starkness. Just, his fascination with very dark things because you know s Avakian J., he was in concentration camp with his mother in the wall. You know he'd seen a lot of real darkness on he also really understood vote long fairytales those original fairytales scary then look. Little. Red. Riding Hood. It's about cannibalism all the original Cinderella one of the stepsisters cuts off toews to fit into the shoe or Hansel, and Gretel cates beanie in alive. That's scary especially when you. Look at the Eastern European ones where they have like stories about you know if you mess around, you're GonNa get eaten by wolves slightly tell this to the kids and he got any any scary sense of the fairy tale not the Disney fight ones that we that we grew up on the West. These are the real deal things is Saddam he was drawn to in all of his films but if you look at them, they all look very different. All of them whereas some of the new wave directors. You could just tell that films by looking at them and hence wasn't like that this is definitely what she if he can watch the find and see sweet games of some at transitional pays for the way he said that the Creator was much more than expressed in this work, and then it's as sweet games of summer. Light summer is is based on the look of Renoir paintings and is very impressive stick, and so you can see that transition of moving away from that social realism going more into where this kind of Gothic vibe and the fairytale look. But I think one of the really interesting things that I came away from his films. especially in like the fairy tales that often the evil is kind of misplaced or misdirected it's the people don't actually recognize where the evil is coming from in the criminals does this as well that it's it's the the the beauty in the based you've got that all the based is able all the forest is evil all these. Documents and everything, but it's like, no, it's the humans. The thieves at the beginning is slaughter everyone and then the the sisters in the greedy in destroying everything in no caring for the. The, we display put al projections of what is evil onto other things in completely mistake which does happen in this film where you've got this in the projections Victoria onto a system where she's like she is very much the Gothic Quyen, he's melancholy can she has his darkness but she's projecting all of these things outwards blaming everything else for her lack is quite interesting how I think like. I think this is where the you know when you watch. I think one of the big differences is must likes funk mile is different. When you watch. US. FUNK my film because I watched the flat which you hurts axing because I know you heard actually originally wanted to be an actor. Was told that he didn't have a good enough loop to ever for anybody to ever want to hire. Did he was actor Y'all. Yeah. He did. He did do a lot of acting, but he wouldn't eat what he what he really when he was studying. He tried to go into apprenticeship in acting and they were like not nobody will. WanNa use you look. To paraphrase. And I thought he had a fantastic look. I love the way that he looks at big alkaline knows losing just he's got such striking features I. Love it when he tends up in things in the ninth when he east Cameo Yeah. So good and I always cheer if I see it he's not in all of his films but if he pops up, it's like because he is really distinctive. Yeah, he's wonderful the way this funk Myers shoots actors is the same way. He shoots his objects like in found my film everything is an object everything is objectified. It is like actually pure cinema because it's old tardily separated from any. Physical reality while everything being super physical. And hurts doesn't quite have that. But when I found out that came puppetry at made sense because. He's relation to objects is quite different and watching all of his films. It's like Ferret Vampire, which is about a vampire CAU-. It's not Christine or the car the CAA isn't evil. It's what people do with it. That is able. It's how people interact with an abuse at the table. In the Creator, the phone is designed evil. It's the people who use it again, and I feel like this is very much comes from your he's experienced. The second world will on the Holocaust and somebody ought movement grew out of the reaction to Maderna's Di was meant to be this great and wonderful utopia. The being oil lamps even starts with a New Year's and I'm saying nineteen hundred the next hundred years will fix everything for humanity. Like. Geez. But it was there was such a turn against modernity because these great utopian technologies had been turned to just apocalyptic death machines and cermony of his films either deal with this directly or indirectly, and I even find that in Mogi Ana the way that she deals with the objects in life like the bottle, the little bottle of poison when she. Poisons. People. With. That it's an a fight says, well, like the the way that the she displaces the to boil it down. It's like we have this tendency to believe that all checks structures have inherent ethical system. and. Hurts. Constantly denies that it would be like saying I will pop it is inherently evil. So it's always going to be able things is like no the puppeteer that's pulling strings is the evil one is doing this. And it's very much present in the cremator and I think in this as well because he is often Victoria's constantly displacing blaming Outta old pushing things away into gnawing at an even her act that when she's trying. Can read her destruction of the poison bottles banging destroying the evidence but you can ulcer equally see it as her trying to distance himself from the object that has caused this her father has died. He's given all of the best things to the system and then you nurse he's trying to get the attention of the young Mason. He's not interested in brass inside she blaming father's ruin this for me hall. Of. The bad guys ruined that for me and then she goes and sees the old The old Seyran is laying out Tarot cards and Tara decks are open to interpretation. Yes. It does look very negative and she takes it in a negative light but those cards aren't inherently negative or inherently evil. She chooses the take it in a negative way and therefore chooses to try and poison her sister which she. Destroys. The bottle because he's receives this thing has been something that has helped caused her to commit evil and at many times along the way as you can see this even down to the finale. So many objects involved in this house he's trying to play things out to gain sympathy and displays things away from herself and hurt again in the guy returns to this. At even inside of the crab astrology, the Tara Deck, the furnaces, these old tools is a way that we used understand that world and we bring the ethics of good or evil to them them on themselves are just something for us to use. I. Love that Victoria is so curious about things I guess because we haven't seen this yet more Jonah, the titular Morganna is a cat and we get so many things from Morgan `as Pov which I love. The Cat Cam it's wonderful isn't Victoria is kind of feline in that she is just so curious about things she is always looking to see what's GonNa, happen with this poison poisoned my sister but I really want to see how this works like she hears about the her sister having this unquenchable thirst. So what you're GonNa do she's going to poison this dog and see what happens with that old look at the dog is really thirsty. Shit the little kid is drinking out of this. Seems you see the kid in the show. She looks kind of feed linus while the doesn't. She can make up a spa more exaggerated than when she's Clara. He's Kinda sweet to insult the she looks feed I in the way she. Observes the law the time nightly cannot the window and watching people we see it just observing situations people of the time and she does have this. So feed on look about Oh already. Love I'm not Sinkat Sereda or love cops, but this is deliberate on her part because it sat at the turn of the century. To another thing, I, love about the costumes because again when it comes to the gothic films. You tend to get the more Victorian era with big crans and everything and this is ten in the century. So they've got the the different guidelines is very, very specific look and Sony. Really Joan Ron's fascination are seen not Houston as well but they didn't have that really exaggerate make like she's got crazy maker Victoria with the eyes and everything it's like she looks like she's got cat. Sorry. So that's I mean I don't think he was going I could accuracy it was like Rowlonin fascination it's just sat in a different universe where they happened to wear. Those clothes possibly the original hearst but that is the postal I said to you earlier, Mike where they the the Mogi on the cat is at the forefront foreground and has these huge blue is an above it is Victoria with matching huge blue eyes and so this very much that pairing there, and early on in the film, there's the scene where we've got Association of Victoria and the cat but we've also got Clara and the parrot in the cage. And they this is like a especially like maybe I'm reading this as a golf but. The perception that the bright happy person is less than and the dock rim person possessed reality is actually is until you get that association with the cat is free in one doesn't actually sees things that you're saying cat is watching perceives whereas the happy present leaves in the gilded cage doesn't have to worry and isn't aware of things in his just walked off. And that is part of what stirs that antagonism between the two of them. The guys spot the deputy isn't because I. Mean Athene, the gothic double let's seems to be like a big trend in the season European, Gothic full the double and I we sawyer comment the names of the authors of. Few volumes of Russian gothic tales and this one where the sky falls enough with this mannequin of the twin and he searches the world for the other twin. But then they send him out of his mind he starts to matching the they won't hinted de staff and he go so crazy over these mannequins in the twins were behind them unless another story in one of those books that a woman. World gets taken over by a reflection. So she starts to know is the her reflection in the mirror is another entity who events should he sucks her into the mirror and takes place so it seems to be The way she used in that round it seems and I'm not saying thick Judaism in doubling the mazing stunned in a more. Traditional I. Love All all those books Dr Jekyll Mister. High is the probably the biggest one? You got seventies actual to split personalities, but the way they use in eastern European one is just so imaginative. We it and. Just I think a lot darker niddle scarier I used to be scared of reflections when I was a case. About Mary. Thing when I first thought Mary Story was horrified, you know the fought you d'appel guy could be so it seems to be in that same round but uses the twins but then he uses the animals is the doubles is while so it's like working on all these different levels so much of the double in that but then again, no used in a way that we would expect in more Western gothic stood in a much. More, surreal way we've got the theme of Schizophrenia in Arizona on all the nations. It's not just doubling like I said earlier, there's a lot of mirrors and it's not just one version of somebody I a second version of somebody we have mirrors going off into infinity, and then we've got Clara's dressing table where things are split into three and I find it interesting too that it's one panel where she will see something like she sees. A reflection of Victoria putting the poison into her drink and Then she'll see a version of herself who is dressed in orange and I love the way that he's using color and here as a signifier like she's got this reddish orange hair, her double in the Mirror has this reddish warns us dress on and she actually will like you're saying hallucinate this other person than when she sees some oranges she almost goes into a faint because it reminds her of that. But yeah, it's not just two of the sisters you have these multiples when it comes to all of these mirrors, it pays in so many of those stories and I don't know why it just seems to be a trend. Mirrored to use in the same way that the doubles so used but they used in our said the surreal more fancy way where in this often when she looks in the mirror, she doesn't just say reflection not you say she sees something else almost like a premonition, a hallucination or primary nation the comes in seems to come more literary thing which had switched to. So much into literature I'm painting and I think that informs of his films because with this, we have claimed with the costumes and the and the accents of gold to never and I left claimed, and he just brings all these things in together I. Think the Caz like Ben said, his background is in design in puppetry. It's in these more physical artistic like these craftsmen. Of things where he's he's just making families making a painting salsa background must white just stands are even enhances films it stands out is. A point where each seems to be really experimenting with things and seeing how far can I go with a smoke? Can I get away with an oversea couldn't get away with all of it because the state hey, today and bombed him from making films not yet. It's 'cause they like this is a horror film which the same thing happened would be in the beast he wasn't buying them, but they will you said you were making a children's this is horrifying, but she's like seems to be what he did. Everything, they were like high on and he thought well, I thought it was romantic with is, is a really romantic film but romantic in Gothic Romance sense of dangerous but they think get they thought they were gonna get this really sweet I mean will they thought they were going to get they were horrified which I laugh I. Think it says a lot about the ineptitude of bureaucrats. by Dr Known, what they ever GonNa get the Double Ganger you know a lot of the times in London traditions the double Ganger fear of Death Oh dum site only makes sense. But the I noticed that there's one particular edit later in the film where they show the same shot three times is that there's not only doubling the that tripling as well as you said it. Also seems to be three of them in there is the the white there is the the orange red in the black and I I had like numerous Norwich ause like what does red symbolizes implies death. Symbolize, a bond may be. Just like constantly Joanna, pin it down I was like this at and pin it down and he just like not not bad but it's it's fascinating like the like you said that he's experimenting because. Hurt said that the only film ever made that was finished the way that he intended was the chromite uneven. That had the ending change from what he originally shot and this a basically the film was originally meant to pretty much end halfway third with clower discovering that these nerve Victoria. that. Inherits his wages schizophrenic fill about a split personality and I didn't find that out until after I'd seen it twice. When I found that I was like arcade. It makes more sense now because there is a certain incoherence to a lot of the films like there are a lot of things that feel like they dropped metaphors and symbols that then going nowhere that makes sense when you realize that will while they basically said, no, you can't make the film he made he had to take the original story and then continue on making it without the twists. Yeah. I woke up his court for Interior that he gave to Keno I it says. Where the film ends should've Bain, just halfway through in the middle of the original story, the Good Sister Wake Stop Ngo asks but they tell that she doesn't have won. It should have been schizophrenic story about a person who has a good and also a bad side. The administration couldn't accept that and they got rid of the whole second part of the story and heals. US. said that I didn't like the film and the shooting was very authorised Terry I. Took it as an exercise like when a pianist does finger exercises I also had the possibility to try different film tricks when act just IVA yearns, zero. Plays opposite herself. So it was really more exercise for myself than I would expect it would develop into something. Interesting. Sir. The. So much. One more way into nationally was a surprise to him bed. You're absolutely right cat he experiment and you can see. There is an excellent remind me of. The Mario Bava Film on five Dole's from August Moon, which is not a particularly great film but Bava Height that film. Sorry. Basically you can. If you know that he hated that making that film, you can see that he's just trying out tricks that he would then use too much greater effect in light of films. This definitely worked at a lot better than five dollars. are gay But there is that sense of experimentation, an incoherency which actually does feed into the film in Fade into what's going on as much as I would have loved the the split aspect now that that that's a twist that's almost it is old now. Hold Adrienne. Clearly, this film is not in semi to using that incoherency in a way. It feels like it makes the fume feel like it's missing something but it becomes kind of question sale wet leaves you at the end going like what was that what just happened like way like you? Yeah. You get the little bits of like. Little, bit of power in there and a little bit of. He said the Russian literature and is all these other different bits and pacers though. I don't even want to say mingling I wanNA say mango together like the old climbing I reach out the going. This is my main This is my meaning until the end it's like Nah actually your made a quotation mock schizophrenic film because it has just been chaos pouring out of. Yeah. It really reminded me of the I can't remember if it was a second or third chapter of trilogy of Terror. camera, his Nolan or Matheson but millicent in therese the two characters that Karen Black was playing that ended up being the same woman I was thinking that that might happen in this. I hadn't read that interview though. So that's very interesting because I was like, okay it seems like this might happen but then it carries on and that it carries on and that there's actually happy ending I really did not expect there to be a happy ending to this movie. That's actually like one of Hilarious I found that out that. Makes Perfect sense because Peter Ceplak briefly appears as the manage reading at the wheel and then tries very self-serving attempt to get a cloud at bury him. Oh? Victoria look zone. After seeing him I. Think I watched oil lamps just before I watched Mogi Ana and in oil lamps he plays a very deceitful syphilitic asshole and he doesn't sorry well that as soon as this field my repented and he started cracking on their own why go here we go again disease just can allies just once you for your money lady just as far as you can, and then in the second half he's off like to find the cloud as other suitor and you think, oh, it's on like this guy's GonNa just like only want he's going to go and fight. On she's missing I think we should go and look for and you're like, oh, he's a good guy. This is the real twist of the film. It's like at least the second biggest wish to the film the Pacific character is ethical trust me. I'm a lawyer I think we've hit so you have to remember think film school eating come up for me she seems to have despite pragmatic approach to make Him feel the satellite said he saw everything is a way of experimenting or leaning very positive attitude something was going up. He didn't have that sense of ego of how dare you touch my vision he just be like well, this is going to be limited. So actually I'm just GonNa have some fun with this. So I'm going to try accent more. Fisher is GonNa, experiment with these facts and I'm just gonNA. See sides in one of the debates he kept his hand in just to remember how to make fail me south toll basic they and so every single one of his projects will moves things can experiment in that way. So he never had this sense of you know they took my vision for me which he find out in the carnival. Type. Directors. He's kind of like, yeah. They fuck with it but you know I have nine. These ends in Coke Kocharian to do this and we yeah, we just did this. It was great. We tried to experiment with film in the actress into shorts was took ages. So just this almost playfulness that you'd find within him the he despite what happened to him he never to doubt better and had this very matter of fact pragmatic. Whereas I know people are very he till over she far, very bitter, very angry and frustration about how she falls. She'd been treated which was far enough I mean she was treated. But with never seem to affect him oversee affected him on some level, but he just kept going with this saw to try this son will you know I'll sign up for fancy phone? All she made into a horror. They so moose like cheeky. So of outlook it was seemed we say into the site amazed with done. In, watching his films than trying to think about it from no terrorist respective the only thing I could really definitively pinned down matches exactly what you're saying and it's an awareness of the cycle of life and A. We'd uncannily objective awareness of it and I think of all the films, the Mars Pin that down for me was very under say now a day for my love, which is a bad of about husband wife for have child Gets. You dies dot so sad that film, but it's bride. It's the opposite of sunlight area feels like a breath of fresh air after his other fields also sat in present time. Present time it looks like one of those other any other. So check who Soviet era late seventies drama where people leaving in A. Concrete Block of flats. So different to everything else you've made up until that point and then he goes makes fabric vampire. You can never I think the great thing about it is when people saw watching these films and this was definitely the same for me is every single one just takes you to completely different price. You never know what you can expect in that place it every single one. Is Different but then it familiar is well because he had these ongoing obsessions with certain themes. I, think it was the cyclic nature. It's like it even Ferret Vampires. There's a kind of acceptance in those final moments. At is an acceptance to people's decision to fuller their fight, and there's an acceptance to choose. I review seen the night off tape me. But no. I. Haven't. That was the film that he made in the eighties which is by experience in concentration camp is not it's not. It's not a young boy is told from a woman's perspective but it's very much about his experience things that he soul and I think if you see the film which he's says Canes that Steven Spielberg ripped-off. Similarities put it that way but he was I have no many to take Hollywood cold. So at least remind stories I think if you see that film than you, you understand him, it's The only film ready that you. You see any of her. So what happened to him? What went through because they're all really chilling scenes in that film when you were talking earlier about the lack of like I, really like traditional say what the West thinks over the traditional film I remember Longtime Guy Reading an article about. The Hindu Horace cinema at how little there was until relatively recently, one of the points they made was they thought that this was partly because the Hindus lived with Sarah. Much. fantastical. Monstrosities in God's and things in of present lives all around them that they didn't need that kind of outlet or escapism of whatever hall offered. Maybe. Couldn't. Speak to with that is true article but I think when you have even even implants gay like he he made plenty of films like your I heard that could be described as horror films but aren't necessarily horror films and I think when you when you've gone through that real, Hora than is no pointing. fantasize it. They just came from such a such a horrible lightly to seen such terrible things into the Soviet Abeer. Anyway they would never allow horror films in the driving that would have been way too fucking frivolous. They would've despacito they didn't commercial sense of cinema like we did in the West. So that was not framework for it, but they did have an obsession with fantasy and fiery titles and they had lift just terrific experiences so it comes out. As full of horrors, you ask the same Roman Polanski was saying is very eastern European thing that they wouldn't make something like Texas chainsaw massacre because they didn't need to. So what you? I think hits is the one that comes to coasties to somebody was conscious of what he was doing. He was starting conscious that he wanted to scare people he wasn't taking American and British films and using them as a model. He was using things that he knew he was using fairytales which was scary pieces of literature which was scary he didn't have. To borrow anything, and so he kinda set precedent in the Kosovo I'm Chris Badly anything that could qualifies horror but the other thing is branch in the fifth hole smoothies Fairbridge was his mentor not is something that comes coast to a horror film says also that influence is well, he seemed to be the one seeing Mustafa Wire and conscious was doing quite primed. Quite pride kids from out of the cinema crane after B. The BBC's really prior to thought which I love and he was just like oop Spain you what he was doing any even very with a wing can oh, sorry I thought it was something else and it's like, no you wanted those kids to cry in my watchings in my viewings I'm just like we missed out on one of the twentieth century's gripe pervert slaughter mast. because. In the seventy, he said like in the sign of the cancels on of the crab he's first film. There was a lot of nudity cutout ripe saying the the Limping Devil of the lame devil there was meant to be much more Arolla with people going sexually mad because of this. Mosquitoes, devil affecting them in the cremator you know there's a great deal of nudity in all these images of fiery terrorism things that just like time and again, he was the head all these extra Saxon violence that he wanted in these films and they're just like not not not not even ferret vampire as like I would it's probably doesn't exist anymore but he did shoot a lot more nacionalisme violence in Ferret Vampire, which I'm can only imagine what that is because the one scene of really graphic violence in makes anything in video germ look like really yeah that's comparable. That's comparable end four years before he was definitely like he was. Few my friends at fucked up dirt who was willing to go to really really nasty weight lights and even when he after the troubles, he had in the coming of the Russians, he went to the the Slovak television to make. Sweet Games of light summer and watching that I was like. This makes most of the erotic cinema review for like the light seven days look tame and bland like it's serve very in your face with the sexuality space by a girl, he takes five levies. And it's a such beautiful yet it is really beautiful. But the the the the eroticism is is is off the charts especially bid nowadays I mean admittedly mercy the erotic films I've been watching lately of being released American films by vinegars singer from the seventies and eighties. So they were autism levels of very minus. That no erotic. But hey the the a heard was leg. Just he was on a whole different plan I just I just wish we could have gotten all of those elements that he wanted to bring to the screen because he was clearly in arcade person but he was not our guy I wanted to seize not are as onscreen. We seem to come from the same places Baroque check day although he didn't go as far as off check and genre line acing occupy that same pace in the imagination of the weird and the erotic. And and all that is a shame that he was kind of stunted in what he could be because he's vision was different from the other. Czechoslovak filmmakers from not he will despite political, they were very angry. They won't need to make statements they wanted to kick back and hits. You know go through this terrible experience and then. Find, he was an nightside. After, this is while. He's dislike I WANNA. Do My own thing I'm just reading into this and he was awful thought at the time from doing that but he carried on each just carried on getting away with as much as he could. One of the reasons why respond to him so much he does seem to belong in that same fantasy way to robotic Hora Cam the the most surreal European directives come out of like very broad check Joel Merlin definitely. I definitely think that's why he's. He's definitely ripe for reappraisal and rediscovery even she's in the sang literature base he was referencing the same. All you know definitely comes from. Komo who hasn't Gone to college gone to film school, and then if I fail looked Lynn about images through watch him film, it didn't come from that world. He came from world of his and design and brought with the same with his painting with these automation comes not world way. It's SORTA with looking at paintings, enjoying all reading literature and comes from the Ralph within the family or out should he formally studied film had very clear political messages so they experimented this wild, but it's an cinematic way wherever's who? was wasn't really looking in cinema not way was just looking in isn't a way of expression Like in this formalized. Style wack. Necessarily aware of the meaning if things will will you should and shouldn't do I. think that's what I love about him because he would just plop something in if he thought he looked good. Know he said he hey, after the cremation, he would never have made it like that game but they up by fish shy lens and they were just like they had us to seize the fish-eye everywhere. And he's like my again I'd like. So. Good. But he's like we we did too much. As as much as the like anarchistic aquarian and wants to be like the Creator might not be as best having rewatch it after watching nine of his fails. It was just like not combative is phenomenal that just an till you watch today in the midst of what's going on in the world and you like our shit but part of me is like, I I get the Mogi GonNa even though it is. Something about the Dow's chaos the dozen quite click together as perfectly and beautifully does this or like aw but I, I'm getting more and more Y. This is almost as good as the Kamei to me and a part of it is he's earn experience of duality because as I said like China to pin him down as a filmmaker looking for perspective, it's complicated because you have this duality of the film makeup and the Communist Party. And at many times it to the the filmmaker on the oddest complicated neutered or censored by the Communist Party that you kind of have to watch the film is being what it is what it might have been what it was meant to be. It's like it's like Zulawski in on the silver with the missing Sainsbury's walking down the street writing what would have happened the APP actor was anyway. Do you have that kind of experience with the loss of hurts feeling once you look into the mini talks about what's missing, what was meant to Bay that you end up watching them. As Dabble, you've got this gang version of the film which is sort of in your mind and in front of you and it's the. That with this film like Mogi Yana which just becomes like too much like four dimensional five dimensional at exists on. So many planes across so many different ways of reading it. It almost doesn't matter what happens in a just is this jam that comes about because of all of these pressures pushing down on. Nagai Yup that is something that is unique and it is undeniable. I won't channel of Euro European like role on one of those films I've never looked into that deeply bend because. I'll see now I do do. I tall left. These teams are I'm I'm very much like I've never looked that deeply. It's really interesting. Chested I tell people like. The black tie heroin territory. Cinema I'm sorry fire off the day event. A level is your called dolphins drying. The more is a terrible The better at this is like but I I can't help and like grab at like that and when I come back and watch it multiple times and having what so many of these films compressed together Maya like slightly OCD Nigel obsessively for like those details the connected now is amazing but it says a lot about makes on just like, Hey, this is like. The schizophrenic thing and I think, yeah, that's good. You know. But like you said everyone was doing at the time it would have been more in in with the whole gothic thing to have the actual double is a modern nation like her said about that mirror story at would have made more sense for the fact that off it doesn't make sense and he seems to be giving the breadcrumbs means something. But then they don't to anything. So you often thinking you know what does this mean and you start to think he's Clara the being a an imagination Victoria like not real zero laugh certain things in just because he filmed them until bucket. But you co part of me decide. Oh Hey, without didn't eat while was fine. It looks Netflix launching this the cost I was raised by. A union. So my brain is like shedders self. Oh my God. So I dug it a Dugout, my portable union, and if I may just drop some young coach from it because they have to on regardless yet I sell young while some traits peculiar to the shadow recognized without too much difficulty as one's own personal qualities. In this case, both inside and goodwill unavailing because the coals of the emotion appeased ally beyond all possibility of doubt in the other person and the effect of projection is the. Isolate, the subject from his environment since instead of a real relation to it, there is now are in late an allusion everyone projections changed the world into the replica of ones are earned an unknown face added like that's still in the film hundred Zen Still Dan that would have worked if it had been used to the just being herself as the split between herself in his that shelf, but it also works with the way the film continues on now in its sort of mattering mystery mold that there is. Disillusion like like signed before the illusion way, she's kind of like projecting onto others a will you've made my life like this will kill you on this lad Blah Blah Blah on it's dislike but isolates the person that separates the two when it's only in those early scenes that we really get the two together and aside and that they like split out almost entirely separated and it's only the nations of the version of them in the orange asked joy together in the middle part of the film we talked about how schizophrenic the film was but we also talked about how there's. Three images and there are parts of this movie just like wait a second, this doesn't seem to really fit and it could be because of the way that the film was changed or just could be because pertz wants to fuck around with us there the whole story of a Merrick, the Joseph Brown character where he's in his own little movie for a lot of this. And it's like what is going on with this guy like he? He's kind of the love interest, but he's barely there and then he seems to be off with his boys at this brothel and their gambling there just long scenes of them playing cards together, and the we extra we thing is that the I was getting tired of Days Avenue from the William. Wilson, episode of spirits of the dead in those things it is so much like them, William Wilson Bain Grell impose double gang story, but that was afterward ripping off. This was a just because of the costumes I don't even know this is this film just piles always like things like what is this meaning should even be in this film Groups of people that exist in their own universities is like all those women the go to the highest to just walk up and down those stairs and pick flowers, and then this other group of women he read like Nymphs he just flock around and go naked swimming. One of them gets rock to stroke owner for the hell of. Victoria kind of wants to see what will happen and those people they don't none of them seem to interact they just. Walk around in a strange cried, which is great. They just it's like why all these people keep going to these highs to go down those stairs and the flowers. And then why do these other women come up who every time they see all today after Frawley, hurons 'cause David in the courtyard as well. Don't they because water represents live the this fans this is not. Your Poulsbo Yana. Again, as he says, it's like dead water and I just wanted to punch in the face right now. I was. Playing in the background, there's a sade. Really, obvious boom pole reflection, and that's that's my work Brian from doing post production going at our it's five dart looking up but also having played in the background where you're talking about random people who are like fume they in. We need to talk about the non, oh? Yeah. That none. All the people to have as a nurse and has to be done and using. Here's hoyt these men. Wow. Why does the doctor just kind of hate her? So. Shocked. This is y'all fall. Is the Italian spinoff film knock off starring her she should just have had her whole series it just walking through films and smiling with those is like I would watch like decades of that are just like play the background it's he grabs the white vers she starts the smile and some house. He Looks Boring insane and evil when she smiles when she glowers she's incredible. It's he's just his mind about it's like when this come from but it Does remind this two characters in this that remind me a lot of a character who? Characters in the creator, she's like the the young girl keeps popping up in the CHROMATO- is making out on the tomb starnes at the end, which just like this really hypnotic porcelain Chisel beauty you just comes in early in this, he has much more bazaar nuns boy Tyson flavor, but there's also the the painting I guess where you've been to serum is her mother looks a lot like the blackhead woman that the keeps saying that the one played by the actress from Valor in. Waco wonders. So this week parallel there between the two films that there's these long straight black blackhead ladies. Vary. Cheek burn heavy porcelain women who pop up. Drag the attention away from everything going on from. A painting of its Gothic is you Painting the double he have to have the gothic painting by what she has the color coordinate as you were saying, the papacy fully is. Not just people that color coordinated handmaidens nobody else has Kelly coordinated handmaidens the film, but she has these doc rich blurred. All of her handmaidens have to wear. There is the. was mentioned before about the breaking the bottle as if she's trying to disavow what she's done and trying to smash this object. Latoya's dry is immediately followed by I. Feel like her refusing that by having her creep around and throw a rock at one of these young handmaidens an almost killer and Mike you said before adage, put it. All they however was brilliant. Totally brilliant. Absolutely. Brilliant but watching these. Titled Mishmash of Associations, of course, legged for those who obsessed with two kilos. It's quite well knowing that the Soviet Union believed the American problem and could not happen in the Soviet Union which leads to lots of cereal is getting super high body gowns. To me this and the Creator aboard line serial killer films. And for me Victoria those moments where he curiosity, that's what you're saying. The curiosity of her characters, how you put it to me maybe because I listened to much loss podcast on the left, these felt like permission armaments where it's says little creeping instances where like you're just going that little bit further little bit further, little bit further closer to killing someone that's never actually league really gets to the point of killing someone but she uses these permission of like. I'll just test out this poison all just pull a little bit of this. All just rope this rock and it's old is Kinda like it's would serial killers do give themselves permission to get closer and closer to what they actually one of their which has killed someone. Like a child isn't she sought being, she's very cruel and that was one of the things his was surprised at the sense that it was a sadistic because it does have of sadism in wonderfully. So that's a classic thing. Pervert to go is like what what this thing's perverted. That, she is psychic child. He's the sole thing kicked like put off the wings overfly. She seems to be like that she's no lights the creator he is a mission like he's a GRANDPA and then he keeps notes in these poor in A, no aesthetically Roy for his vision. So we take smart she's not like that but you said she's testing she she sees skills pain and she s not moment if Jesse because she sees beautiful young in free, and so she throws the rock and reaction to it. It's. Like a KD's while a bully. Awesome. Katie's I e R. Teach you. Okay. Hope reaction to is really Charles which I love about my character because she snow completely evil in not way and I? Think that was something that his state very well. So is quite ambiguous in his characters and she's not compete evil and she kind of wants to Kim assisted but no everytime she she just keeps off in these moments of like oh It's great. Though has she does these experiments I think like a child. And you just want. Like why she never grown up and why is she like this? You do want her to get away with the end but you also want. The D want her to get caught end having the birth. The Bane, the twins design person complicates thatch because you kind of rooting for the same person. ECON allied I like her because I like her by like her because I like her. Like. He had a You know the one of them you know that somebody has to be sacrificed. You nerve this film especially a Gothic they can't all come out on top but you keep like being like and I. think that is part of that the the. That refusal of her to imbue anything with an? Inherent. Ethic. That dislike no you have to decide. You have to decide who you want to survive and win, and that is possibly like what is maybe most lost by having. It not finished the way he did that he might have been able to finish it more ambiguously with not allowing you to choose on the way but by having. To have it have a resolution and Sachi thousand eventually have which way it goes, but it is for the most part you do kind of like. Like like our Clara's fine clouds grade like she seemed like a really wonderful interesting press on. She's not a bird in a gilded cage. Victoria's finds. He's not a hunches devouring prey maybe you might WANNA be serial Killa bullet. You know lead dog nights at love that they have dolls of one another and she. Victoria Brings Clara. Victoria doll and she's like, Oh, I remember this. This was great and what happened to my dollars she's like, oh, etc torn up in the is ripped off. That is like a gain serial killer classics and that was before the term was even created like classic serial killer. I do WanNa talk about that, and and just that it's Victoria's drama that ends up getting her killed. I talked about how more yon extra the name of the cat and it's very strange that the cat quote unquote dies in the middle of this film by that's about how we have all these pov shots from her and. At. One point the cat is looking up at Victoria in Victoria, talking about the cats dead and then we freeze frame of Victoria and then we don't see the cat for the rest of the film until the very end when it's the cat and the breeze from the window, which she of course says that breeze will be the death of me. That ends up being the death of for as well as more Yana, in this whole elaborate things she has set up where she tears the string of pearls and they're pros everywhere and she gets her handmaiden her housekeeper to clean the stuff up and that she sets up this whole thing where the housekeeper will see her trying to commit suicide but then come and rescuer. But that darn breeze caused by that darn cat end up closing the door and she ends up hanging yourself and killing yourself when it was supposed to be this more dramatic look at me suffering moment. Which is wonderful I love is pretty great. Again, going back to puppetry like she ends up Marionette on a string. We didn't talk about the high ski because she's she seems to come out of some sort of Italian neo realism Phil. She's like this hot and working class made Rafi. So he's got a kid hanging around the she's always would. It's a weird thing because you wouldn't imagine Victoria to tolerate somebody having their kids around all the talk like the type of character she as she cheech. She finds everything intolerable and annoying especially if people are innocent free or having fun but she doesn't seem to mind kid being around so that high ski has just another really strange character the. Left because she you could save in secret fell might scrubbing door staff pulled to Washington in a lake and everyone else is. So the way that dressed you know so grime difficulties apart from this one heis keeper he's like the Washer, the wild washerwoman, all the things he does with carrots but then he does sign it all of his films like all of characters really eccentric. He finally strange people and you just think what is it about this person why they like this? Why is everybody greedy? Strange high scape is like I like she needed to film as well. She wasn't NFL. Yeah I. I. Think the. That that opening shot. So we really didn't talk about Granola announced when carrying the call minutes striking and just in your face immediately as will pull bear is carrying golf and like the just there's something about the the White Angle, the Kalo everything just dislike I get to into your brain. So everything in this room. In. The shadow of that coffin, which is the father's coffin. The sort of underlying narrative of this film is two sisters finding themselves in the world like the person who especially this time the president would have ruled RV them who would dictated everything they did is absence of the film is almost like occurring in vacuum. And so I, think like a character like that is you know where you can imagine the the father. Eater. Nanny or whatever kind of thing. Maybe. Because he would have been super old but that kind of thing like there was there was more of an association with her for the father of and then for some reason that's Mogi has kept her on lead like as said like the Wu as she kept to hear because this irritates. At a does human as a character gives it that more nuanced detail but also like the that are being shot, it's it's a closed world in our. We wouldn't be the look at the oil lamps and you just know that oil lamps restricted the the options and possibilities available, which is is not what this film is out but the coffin European with the coffin and there's not much more closed than that. But then immediately, after the incredible credits, you get that shot at the mirror reflecting the mirror missile rbm of the would looks like eternity but in a way, it's just as close to the coffin because it's just. A glass wall reflecting. Gospel. No mentioned sibling rivalry yet. I was the oldest of two I have this spoil Brian Horrid Greta. So kind to light, really get this Phil I'm an only child so. Yes I'm here. There you go. That's why we haven't mentioned the GATT. Breath was was Kara. Basically inaugurated fucking poisoned him if I could go and you were the Gulf quaint. HAS SO I. In a way, really site with her. Nothing Against Kara She's so good and so like and she always Poe. Victoria's like in the corner. Wants her own things they now they'll the trees down the truth coming out cat now. Why you love Reading Eight. Victoria. It's like Yeah Kill the smoke sibling get the. Stole, your attention now is your time to shine. have either. Have you given any thought to the green flute being the name of the other estate is seem so that would be something from a fairytale like that seems like the name of a fairytale, the green fluid just thinking because. Look Green. Fairy. Could be. Heard for a little bit. Also, I like it when the when they get when the the the suitor and he's soldiers go on the night of debauchery for a minute. I, thought that the they they they end up a bothell, end the the Madam of the House for a second. I thought she was also played by late actress. That she has a very local sort of somewhat between the two of them, but definitely leaning towards the Gothic. And unlike you're saying before, it's like yet is this our little mini narrative in this this many little story in the middle of it of this zone in the the bubble at night man? Yeah. This this this film is going direction. Any mentioned briefly, the opening credits those credits fucking beautiful. I wish I knew who did that artwork? tastic. Do yourself a favor you're listening just type in your I heard credits end just wants everything because I don't have as watching enemies films. Every single credit sequence was amongst the best I've ever seen ever now they are phenomenal. My. The the no no. No it's only the ninth hot, which is funk. Maya one another nine thoughts Stephan Youtube standard to about twenty people going watch this. But like the even like the day. My love and favorite fan pie they just every single credit sequence. He has sly this is wow like just. Phenomenal. It's it's it's like one that's just our K., the old SARS striking summer different just absolute like it clearly that you're saying before early cat about his passion for painting in our like they just it's just sequence of a note me and Mike Mom, talk about being the beast recent name. Yeah and the same without the paintings and I call remember to member Mica and the life me did the paintings for that. But that incredible is on the same thing here is that like a not not diesel bathroom like he was right but you you just go like hurts just found the the best of everyone. These they should absolutely bay like you had to do talk ten best ever credit sequence I'd be hard pressed not just law in up every film I've seen in the last week they've really just are. Detailed and texture and. I, think especially watching a lot of your IRA pays sixties, Gothic some things at a lot of them you know they do have that kind of art aspect to him, and even the geology is like paintings. and. You see the paintings and the artwork in them and you like A that. was. Pretty Cool Yeah. In hurts films you like that's amazing. Can Can I get that and put it on my wall place? I just random saw the cat. I. Don't think the cat. This does she she comes back. The cat comes back. I was GONNA say I was really confused sensing. Yes she thinks she's stat and then she comes out for that winter the Buddha when the when the Caterpillar is to die, show the cat and then they show the cat line there turned out looking completely dead and I think either hurl the made says that is the end ended kinda freeze frames black. So you really meant to feel like it's the end of something son did the cat come back at the end to the? Was the window. I can only. It's not very you said, it's very. It's very light post the black cash. Yeah. Absolutely. Dave is like he's like Oh you to let me have this story that I was writing screen guy they're gonNA throw in sixty dollars golf stories instead. Enough winning Wilson at the the. The, the the blackout, the Green. Fleet. which has nothing green on it from what I understand. Alexander. Grin was very Edgar Allan Poe? The Guy who wrote this it's interesting to just how we talk about the communist he had fallen out of favor here is very popular for a while he had fallen out of favor when Stalin was power and then he came back. into favour after Stalin had died and I think was there was an interview with heard swear he was talking about how grin was so poor that he was actually hunting animals in nearby park he could actually eat something he was hunting kroger's with a bow and Arrow and he just thought because I say, why did you choose the stories? We doesn't say anything about this. He doesn't say anything about the story to what it what he liked was Alexander Green thought that he was nightside been cast. He was starving. But then if that is in the film, he's just not she answer the question of what is about Jesse Mulkey. Ana. It just tells you the what to green was cheating in the park and staffing. It's like, nuff said, yeah. So I chose the story given that he said that it was an odd film to make. He might have forgotten by the end of it why he wanted to make it. The only other grin adaptation that I've ever seen is the rat savior from seventy six, which I think is is A. fucking accident film. It's savvy in net. Okay. That's what I thought. Yeah. It's just wonder fall so. Accord. Ages I, WanNa, go watch it again in invasion of the body snatchers rats sounds Rask's. Looking at the now in as. Playing in the background, the painted women aspect is in the makeup. I was a little startled gain mentioning sweet gains of light summer because one of the characters in that, his Goya on, he's of course, a painter and he literally paints the lead actress and she becomes very literal painted woman completely naked covered in paint. Being in comparison to that film which was made for. TV This is almost restrained painted women. It's fascinating why that they represented because we do learn that Victoria does have her aren kind of facade in that. Her black hair is a WIG which removes at the end before attempting to hang herself but otherwise they make up never feels like a facade it feels like Bam and it matches very closely if not exactly which is quite interesting because quite often. When makeup is used so heavily, it is uses of sod as mosque, but you never get the feeling that it's hiding anything and at the end when the WIG comes off, the only thing that this revealed is being hidden is that Victoria has red hair as well. So there is that bond between them, which is why I was thinking is red representative of bond. Because it's like the Victoria is hiding her red hair she's hot in the fact that she is exactly like assist. The has that connection tour. Alright. Well, episode over. Well, thank you so much guys began to shell. Got A NA often the representation of it's eluded to a little here as. The relationship between men and women is a really consistent part of her Tsutomu Goofy at that is it sounds dumb Zayn 'cause it's consistent pod in a lot of films and even saying like death is a really consistent pot of he's films sounds a bit films but death is really present in his films and the relationship between men and women is also really present and I watching the creator I it's not really not a lot of countries in reviews that I've saying about how much that film is about domestic violence. In the raises a hand hit anybody in your does spoiler blood kill all these family, but there's that controlling aspect that is not often. So addressed in relation to domestic violence, women are not allowed to I think no on my. The. Women I had one of the Lizardo commentary. Half, a line of Dodd as those those looks that no that then allowed to speak but is also the like oil lamps way the the relationship between men and women is complicated by all these searchable structures, requirements, duties on things that. Might actually flower or never allowed to. Actually Mogi is that actually sat in that same time period, which is interesting. So he followed one after the other and then he did the same with the ninth. On beating the beast in a very similar. The smaller traditional fairy tales you didn't Gemini do that across the Board it's just it is in that same thought tin the century. So they still have those very victorian values. You have the fact, the CLOUDERA, they don't really take seriously because the victorians that whole idea of women being hysterical and if you would middle class, she was supposed to feign everywhere and lie on Shea Sloan gympie very we can hypochondriac and so she they think she's like one of those women. When what could they cannot cancer? I could have the She thought. And she just lies in bed all the time and they just think she's hysterical because it's like a very. Victorian troposphere, not area and I never used his Kazan. She's not really but no one really takes it seriously that will just get. To sit with her. You know. Just, to start a coil when she's actually being Brady police and and that's a key thing in it off out Victorian Niche women don't get believe I suppose to be we can feeble in L. and half these complaints that can't really be explained in any scientific to said, always sent to their beds someone sent into to watch them for whatever reason paints on not. So periods in the father's gone and these women and NY harasses in the guy start coming out of the woodwork, you know this post to be independent in time. When women on that I'd be independent. So the whole idea is we have to marry you walk ny sweetest pain to that oil lamps is sat in that same will timeframe is while the end to victorian-era well, it's also fascinating opposite to sign of cancer where you have of female patient who is dying of cancer but the doctors won't tell her they don't want to freak her out and disturb with that answer even though he is clearly unwell and disturbed and worrying they are hiding this knowledge of It's the absolute opposite position. At Yeah It hurts constantly he's like he's just flipping these different positions around playing with them He's films Whiz fame the male centric and female century can will overtake me is sack. So there's children any in women's come. So as Hayes Auto Park Roxie OC was with his matter is like a woman story an old cat mate will most isn't main characters a female sauce very female centric film even though it sees most autobiographical, which is interesting I don't think he was particularly interested in gender the no I agree with that interested in Genta, but you gotta think Czechoslovakia wasn't a particularly progressive country in Communism, the social roles definitely interesting because I think there is that. Going back to sweet games of some of that this, even though this free sexually liberated sensual woman whenever the females who were given name and characterization disappear the main just immediately run to the sex workers and they kind of white in the wings. Almost vampiric like and that is that also has an echo, win this with the the scene in the brothel that it has a similar kind of feel that it's like even the good men they still move in the same circles as the sex work is even if they aren't partake and is this interesting overlapping those kind of goals and you can't even see that in in. Something like a nine tot which even though the the ninth heart breaks down those roles between because of the chaos oddness of of what is occurring the aristocracy is inviting Lewis into the circle and so I think he he is interested in that the the the search voles people play and the Times at which we let down how we present them perhaps more sorry than. The fixed position that we might believe they have. All right. Let's go ahead and take a break and play trailer for next week's episode probably more like a clip and we'll be back with that right after these brief messages. It's not easy having a good time. And it's not cheap either. 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How to Win at Life and Succeed in Dentistry  Emotional Intelligence  PDP034

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How to Win at Life and Succeed in Dentistry Emotional Intelligence PDP034

"Obviously the the NAVONA is have high Q.. And you can use your hands and you can use your brain your. Brain, you can deploy three and not really like the triple threat weapon of of of the truly successful dentist. Welcome to the protrusion dental todd cast the forward thinking podcast for dental professionals. Join US discuss hot topics and dentistry clinical tips continuing education and adding value to your life and career with your host. Jazz Gulag. Throughout my Chris so far I've really tried to stand on the shoulders of giants and I tried to learn from mentors learn from people who've got significantly more experience and people and dentists. Successful quote unquote successful now was actually mean and what are they actually say well, we'll get to what that means but it later but all these dentists when I asked, what makes a great dentist they all say the following things. They say empathy they say communication skills base as soft skills they said the ability to explain to patients. In a way that they can understand it and the ability build fantastic report with your patients and and all these sorts of things. So very much the soft skills. Now, if I was to summarize all these things in two words, it'll be emotional intelligence, and that's what this episode is all about. We're GONNA talk about how to be successful early in density in life because I think why truly believe from reading more more more and listening to people is emotional intelligence, which is actually far more important than your IQ. So I've got someone awesome to talk on this topic with me. Today is Dr Rigid Porter, who so of you ought to come on the podcast back when some episodes. Who you guys wanted to come in the podcast and so many of you who message me on Instagram. Say Wanted, doctorates reporter so we've got doctorates reports on today and I want to take too much of your time. I'm the Patriots under Pearl and we'll go straight to what hopefully will be a really impactful and dare I say Life Changing Episode View Dental a happy. You is the lesson I learned as a dental student and recently speaking someone who's recently qualified has resurfaced as like a lesson that I've sort of almost almost rekindled within a way. So so it's a lesson I learned. I was they're treating a lower pre mola as a student and you know how every? You get it checked by your to my tutor was Dr Abs Mogi who is now a think? He's a restorative specialists by now actually. Stories quite cool. Actually, he did eleven years edgy GDP. I'm hoping I'm getting this right apps eleven, years GDP, and then he applied for his specially specialists, right? Straw training restarted entry and you got the place and while I was doing my in Sheffield, he was then a registrar in restart density but anyway. In his days as to on the restorative dentistry. So floor as like fourth year students, I was treating this heavily curious lower premolar and typically students and young dentists. Mistake that we'd make is that we spend too much in caries removal. It should be a fast thing we should be very precise. For as we should know where we should have good hand piece control and we should be able to remove carries quite quickly now. But as a student definitely at that point, it was like you know you remove a bit and then you reflected you think, oh, should I remove some more Schneider shadow a little bit more here? Should I stop in show my turn, and of course, go about half an hour to choose comes round, right anyway. So have this tooth which is heavily curious and there I am removing carries and every few minutes I show. Dr L. Movie Dr Moody Have I removed them enough carries. Done enough here and really at the end of that session once I place my restoration and it turns out about tooth needed a root canal and needs to be needs to be done by a specialist because it had split inside to some lower promoters they have a split inside the canal. So really it's in the realm of special special especially at that point. So it was referred to a specialist unit, but the feedback that I got was amazing. The feedback that I got from Dr Mughal never forget is. Don't be shy. With a tooth of poor prognosis. So that's don't be shy with two noses as exactly the conversation I was having with with a colleague who listen to podcasts Neil Hi Neil listening, and hope you don't mind me mentioning are mentioned. And Neil will send me a case of an upper central incisors, which was pretty much put. It was a trauma case. The Palatial fragment was loose it completely understandable right and he was telling me like, what should I do sheriff especially? Should I try and do the Endo while we saw Beria we came to a conclusion and I borrowed some knowledge from Dr Baretti implant dentists about how we should handle the situation. We went was to root canal, bury the the tooth because she's twenty S- little bit on the young side for an implant and get five years or so from reservoir bridge. So we talked about doing an immediate reservoir bridge, right but that tooth was a to poor prognosis hopeless prognosis and the lesson I want to pass onto him was exactly what I learned from Dr Abdul Mogi and that is don't be shy for the to Pokeno I mean what can go wrong? The Tooth Caputo already so I told him do the roof canal explain to the patient that the tooth is hopeless and the secondary lesson from that. It's something. I mentioned before many episodes never make the patient's problem your problem, right? Sometimes, we stress more and we take that all burden anxiety on us but ray the problem is very unfortunately due to trauma the patient's problem need to dissociate yourself from it and become someone who's there to help them. So the the main pile here is don't be shy with a to popaginos this your patient if a tooth is very poor hopeless bag noses and just go for it, don't be shy with two of prognosis. So hope enjoy that and really excited to. Present. This episode new about emotional intelligence, how to succeed I've given it quite an ambitious title because really I do believe this is the most important thing in your career and in your life. So that's join Dr Richard Porter to them all about emotional intelligence. Richard Porter. Thank you so much for coming on the dental podcast is absolute honor to have you on. That very view about owner ido dessert. It's. One hundred hundred do in in my journey so far. I. Like I said I don't know how much of the puck you tune into before in terms of looks mom my story and my background. But certainly, you're a huge and you still are a massive inspiration to me in my journey from about third. When I started reading some of your lecture then blogs and I I used to follow your twitter cow and I saw you south aspire and I was so close to actually joining us by. But because at the time in my journey I was doing other things like I was doing identical training post and restarted say why wasn't in the right place for that but certainly, it's absolute. Absolutely amazing. Have you on today was very Very, kind and everyone comes to the learning stage when when it's the right talk to them so So yeah, with a very very. Glad played some school role in the great thing Juden Siren now. And I'm not just saying that it's been great and all. Around, about episode seven or eight, I started to say to listeners who do you want on the podcasts next literally I can you know I have to Straw all my messages and a number of people that want reporter we want. Potter. So I'm is and all these. Extended on my extended family for for pretending to be dentists and putting us. that. That's no word of light honesty. Lots of people wanted you on and I can see why I mean the first time I saw you speak live was you doing a remember this? I think you're just starting up spire the time and you're doing a lecture. About collusion. And I don't know where it was. I feel like it was what food or something like that. It was somewhere in London was one of the section sixty, three type daytime timely things you remember up in north London Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It was a Hertel. Okay, and that was many years ago now and I remember seeing you speak first time there and your charisma was just amazing your energy as a speaker as an educator was. So the topic we're going to speak about day goes very much hand in hand and that's emotional intelligence applied to dentistry. So before we get into that can. Done a little mini intro about how much. Inspiration you've been to me, but just tell the people out there watching listening a little bit about yourself. A well. So I fell into dentistry as like I didn't really know what I wanted to do and you know like a lot of people I was influenced Bama terrence and But you know you're given the choice by parents of whatever you could be in dentistry medicine unit and. Maybe pharmacy or something like that, and so I rebelled as much offense. I found it interesting academically at first, and then I got really despondent through dental. School. I found it. It was almost like a hazing. Initiation, and it was I didn't find it inspiring. Didn't teaches in sparring and I didn't. Have, a sense of purpose. I recognize those due to patients I say that which I say all of this Really do me not by recognize patients. Guys. When you guys at the time you were told you know your boy that worry about of the world you always down. into practice and I had. I had not every time but I felt like A. So I went back in just a white why would anyone ever come? See me for dentistry if I'm not the best person in that town or wherever it was appointed Lord of additional training on I was blessed I genuinely luck played a big role in it. The right people at the right time As it went like knows loads of training. became a consultant restorative dentistry. I was lucky. Got A few specialists lists. And then I wanted to stop Plugging some gaps I sold perhaps the ones I experienced started doing lots of teaching I, spend my time now doing and I find the more we can understand each other's minds the more productive teaching. Amazing. Yeah two things. I WanNa pick on on your on your journey and your story on your background. One is that a read on a blog post at once a very vividly and it just shows how much I look up to you. I was reading about this judo champion or thereabouts that used to treat or karate champion. Lorenzo. Something like that and then he hasn't paid and how bad you felt a spark in your career it was it was it was a massive that he was really Nice Guy and Mrs Genuine Story and this is Jazz Odin? USA? So if you look at the UFC now. Wait regulated and there's lots of safety and when it first started is far less though so so somebody weighs fifty kilos might be finding somebody who's a hundred and twenty kilos and these guys were just getting GonNa do whatever the hell they want to each other. And nobody knew what the best form of martial arts was. Brazilian jujitsu striking seems to win it now. But at the time and this guy was the British champion and I exposed on his lower right six Carey's exposure because he had decay. And he was a lovely gentleman. Thank God and and. I started doing endo on your boy. You'll be able to do endo and I was by by any definition. I hope it against trouble sank always always incompetent I was incompetent and a week. Later he was in the rackliff hospital with big fat face. And he had to allow the tournament. The UFC told him that he qualified as the only. British contestant and that was his big challenges at the top of his game and my lack of competence led to is. Stifling his career region I don't know and and not for me is something I'll never forget to why why would someone come see Nathan Dentistry thoughts what I've got to offer that was I either GonNa get good. Oh, get out it was it was those there was nothing in the middle. So I thought really spot meal. Will I hope you don't mind I mentioned this because no. That story, just reading that story as either a student or at the time just reading that story was really a breath of fresh air. That someone is so kind to share a failure in that way and to from that failure something good came out of it. It was it became a driving force in your career. So for those young dentists out there who weren't familiar with that aspect of your story, that's why I want to mention it because inspired me so much and I'm sure people out there we'll think, wow, you know. One adverse event and how it led to something. Good. Which? I think is a legacy which I hadn't thought about to bring it up but the most we do try to set educational delivery like there's a willing good us main hail thinking where we teach that it's all going well, but you have to assess it. Some to objectively assess it and videos we show clinical procedures. The best ones that people get the most out of is when we cook it all up. So so if you know I showed. Me Putting on Benitez years ago. And the X. Goes everywhere in you know you're struggling with a dime control. You slit teach together and actually. Seeing those mistakes talking through and how you become them is more education out of the data. If you just watch perfect Basiji don't see what the flaws all. This statement quote which no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy. So if you learn a procedure a PC, all the way up to bed as soon as you deploy on a patient. There are subsets with nuance and things you haven't thought of, and so seeing those things that other people haven't thought educationally, will probably remain total students. The restaurant took absolutely and the other thing I wanted to pick from your story was you mentioned luck in being a factor now just touch on that. How much do you actually believe because I've got to two belief systems when it comes to luck so Because when you look at like Malcolm Glad Wadsworth on circumstances, and that's always off. But then also there's the harder I work the luckier I get. So tell us about. People who listen to podcasts very much into. Okay where next my career and say the same people who listen read your fantastic blogs that right, very much thinking in that, you know where to take the to get a full on from my career. So you mentioned luck can just tell us what you believe the role of Locke's. Yeah Yeah I can. I mean. It's quite a big subject. We could. We could talk about the. So I broadly speaking from inure science point of view. And emotion intelligence point of view and sort of life. Go Sport you luck probably about a third. Of everything. You. Now you talk about hard work the MOLUCCA have. The howdy work is a choice, a choice as you make or another third. So we, we have not abilities in things like Donald Emotional intelligence, but then you have choices you have lot and you're lucky to be born for example, if you if you. Vote in the UK you're incredibly lucky if you born in the UK with good health. And with Terence who demonstrate that you loved you look at the the longest running and. Scientific study in history of humanity is Harvard happiness study, which is now coming up for Tinari. It's it's just unbelievably. Important study that started. In the states and cross match different groups of guys and for them up the is news watch what happened to them and for them. The one of the biggest rates steps was they believed they were left by the parents. If you were born with parents who demonstrate love, you is unbelievably lucky enough. That's unbelievable. Good News. And so I you know had I had a wonderful childhood. We also know now that you and I sitting here maybe maybe we'll squeezing each other's frayne hit, but you will the sum total the five people who influenced you the most you spend the most time with. And I when I was coming to the latter part of my undergraduate career hat, some people around me two or three people in particular who had anticipated would be so inspirational but they were. These dentists to announce GDP is still friends of mine. But no one's ever heard of them but they they have going on in just you know super smart and. Courageous enough to say rich that some ability here why the hell not correct my my slowest hugged in same back to them and I I was lucky I looked like. They were the that'd be born two months later in a different year or something I wouldn't have come across news. So I think Luxembourg Baltimore I'm grateful Yeah I love these stories and I'm very much subscribed and I agree with you I did a Webinar apple for the deanery. In forget which data a Wessex Tinari and I called it the butterfly effect because I do believe when you were born and to whom you're born with and the small decisions you make early on and how it can have a vast changes in your creek trajectory later on but none more. So and none as big as the whole theme of Emotional Intelligence. Yeah. But. That that's does start before four years old. So so a lot of your social networking as an adult is influenced by years note to fool and parents have a lot of responsibility on their shoulders. But, but you're right in emotional intelligence is relatively new area of Science I. Guess We call it science. With a rapidly evolving body of work you know really is huge. It's you will must get thermo 'cause. It's almost impossible to keep up with stuff as it comes out but nevertheless, it's fascinating. We we introduced into all. Syllabus Jessica's. as you already know I believe that is as important as anything else in dentistry and I think dentists frontline line. Brilliant will we can before we just touch him to ask you straight up you know what is intelligence do that you just touched on something that's again, very interesting about how between age four and how a is so important development to have emotional intelligence and we can see evidence of that from an early age I don't know can't quote which it was but from law stopped I, read in this or flavor. Go personality. Age Three and your personality either eighteen twenty one like it's amazing. The correlation that. Does have. Will particularly particularly I mean this will make more sense where we can talk about. But It's particularly of social networks. So they might Meyer interest now and probably will be rest of my career is is the neuroscience like which fits with your brain what and how can we influence our brains and woke me with it and we we know we can't do that. But if you think of a two year old, you not road the terrible twos is terrible twos for a reason to euros behave almost psychotically they might might euro kids would hit them up. Without. Fear of consequence and they just test everything because he's you know they haven't learned they haven't had any but full. Don't because they had that nutrients in love the barriers all and that will often thought that really does translate your teenage years. We really still near plastic that stage. That's sad when you get to adult, could you can Develop you can develop your personality and is really important, and if we're going to mention that other stage that we clear that this isn't a threat, it is not a threat who you are. It's not a threat to your sense of being sent to identity. It is just you upgrading devotion of you that you will. I guess when you're not adult, it becomes the responsibility of you because your parents probably can't help you able maybe they can. But but but. Certainly the the crown on your show, the weighted on your shoulders that. Really well, couldn't help just mentioned that sort of some of the studies had read about that. So if you dive in now, what is emotional intelligence Richard and wise, it's important. So. I I want to go one. Day Embo ut much does on what it is but. This is a scientific way of describing it. And then there is. Probably more nuance and almost dental way of describing. So if you were to look at. What the scientists say it stops with self awareness so UNFEELING HAP- slightly actress incoming onto a pole cost having a chat with someone. Having two people watching me but I experience those emotions that I'm aware of it. Unaware kind of what are like I think about that and then I have self regulation. So let's say you would say something upsets me. I can experience those emotions. That's absolutely fine. But then what I do, those emotions that self-regulation and the third part to it is a social witness. So that means if I upset you, you know have I recognize that amount am I aware of it and then the full pa the final pot is social relationships so. Those are the force of the scientific bits do it. I tend to think of it's. In dental times, perhaps more social terms in that. We now know from there's a great. Research this Eric Aqua new Goldman. He right when Fest Books on this is quite heavy reading but the Boston line is when two people even light right now buddy. To people interact to you and your patient unionise you with a group of ten you teaching whatever when you interact, there is an exchange of energy. And that exchange of energy you could cool one jazz. So you'll teach temp equal and you give them one unit of Jazz. And that too then depending on your emotional intelligence with feel I say I'm one of those delegates like one and a half Richard Quarter. So I vote in with Plateau reporter sitting at Baseline Zero, and now because of the way you taught me because the way you interact with me I'll put one on all. You can be teaching me about potatoes I love you for that energy I have more energy than I have. And if you have high emotion intelligence which you too by the way. The. Finally is he to deploy. That energy into me now if you change that situation, so let's say you want to take my energy. You don't have that agency you'd be you'd have enough utility to doubt as well, and so whenever you have that situation it to people have a high energy exchange rate. So let's say I talked to you when I with one Richard, Porter feels like four justice. You're GonNa love me because we give net positive. For the people listening. Would you look forward to seeing some Ethan on State Jessica can. I can't wait is. Just. GonNa be stuck with entered. I beg each other energy. So when you lay you just like each other new try and reschedule the points when you go through our daily were allowed to be unprofessional. So I and you look at name of that patient and you Omar Gold. Each. About the dentistry it isn't it is normally that you think I have to put so much emotional energy into this patient they give me nothing back. So they leave positives they just suck it all out. Your exchange rate might be awful that you give a hundred and you know they add what you given them one half and they give you nothing back you're existed. So emotional energy is real things. Let physical initial mental energy is a real thing. A week's change over time people we need at having high intelligence gives you power to. A. Tiny bit if you need to put, it feels like a lot to other people and that's what's important to dentists. That's what we traded today they can have. Really difficult patient and you have to give energy 'cause dentist we have to give energy to every single patient. But when we do that, it doesn't cost us too much and daily feeling positive. I never heard of it in terms of these numbers exchange and I can really It's a great analogy is great to explain things. Fantastic. The other a way I like to think of it. Area of emotional intelligence is knowing and maybe maybe I'm wrong maybe the. Cross my wiser and you can tell me, I, think I feel like you are definitely more up on this but it's knowing what to say. When to say to whom to say, how to say it and making show it comes all out a effectively is not a hundred simple definition. Yeah. You're you. You're you're you're lower way down the line there but you're you're Hendrix. Correct justice definitely part of the process. So if you if you can develop enough intelligence that means that. Almost. No matter what comes out you because we do face stability in the dental environment is a crucible. It's a real crucible from ocean intelligence. That means that if you. Have, high. Amherst intelligence when positives negatives come at you, you can contextual early. And authentically. I mean means that. You do to say in the right tone of voice and you know what to say before the patient even said NFL so. Emotional intelligence is a spectrum. And there is a condition for people who have almost absolutely none. and. I will try and pronounce it. It's Alexi. Alex. Thenia. On those people have have almost none. So they are unaware of other people's emotions. and. You know I have colleagues were within this how did you know to say that? and. This isn't trying to be irritating. It might sound irritating is that you'll get where I come from it. If if you have a great deal of social awareness, you could feel other people's emotions like feel the sun on my skin is just And that you can contextualized a response and you know how to respond. I'm so. The. That's one end of the spectrum Roy at the very end of the spectrum is is. We don't know we don't know where it ends because that part of south ballots is never ending but we know the guy that took the furthest and his again if people wanna look gone forgotten Milton Erickson. Who It was bedridden with polio's a teenager. On expected to survive many many years ago and he was essentially cost into unbidden seven years of bedridden study. and. He's finally a big family, a loving mom and dad at seven sisters and they just socially interacted with every magical beautiful facet of their lives in front of him is if he wasn't there an only did was watch unsteady study and watch and study, and he never fully recovered from his polio but when he did recover enough to become a teacher. Always walked without an aid. But when he he is emotional intelligence was like no one no one you can believe and the the the stories about what he was capable of which you can. You can look up there for scientific published aw staggered. eighty-one get because we call it the seven year study in the bed. Yeah, I definitely will look that up absolutely that's great and so why is emotion more important than so emotional intelligence if you were to give it a measure To An individual a bit like Iq I believe they call it. Emotional. Cochin. So how important is? To you and how important is E. Q.. So. I mean Iq? IQ is obviously biking potent and you don't get it to you. Stanfield and type of on studies that we have to do without a reasonable working. And it has been shown against typically one of the biggest localized factors if you come from any disadvantage by Rancho. Huge feathering by definitely want highlight. Goes. Hand in hand with it. So I'm not convince this more important. I think we probably anecdotally. ticky dentists who we really good at talking with patients patients adore them and they get away with doing if I'm allowed to say it if they wish dentistry. Many situations like not obviously the vulne is he have high Q.. And you can use your hands and you can use your brain your cognitive off your brain, and you can deploy three, and that really is like the the triple threat weapon of of of the truly successful dentist with the Condos is I know dentist to Super Super? Bright. Bright. Can think through any compliment analyzed problems absolutely beautifully but just really struggle. Reinstates the place relationships. I if you don't mind expanding just just for a second. Is a great example in that's in the middle of covid. I was looking at one college. Weather knows. And they had a hero of Mine Henry Marsh a Georgia's hospital at me. Georgia's Hospital retired neurosurgeon very famous guy a couple of great books. And he was talking about consent and he said, how can I can send someone to on the new ones of near surgically respecting Aghia blasphemer from a part of the bright he said you you can't you need to have his knowledge. took him perhaps though tip forty years but consent came down to the person sitting opposite him saying, do I trust this guy? Do I trust them trust comes from your emotional intelligence inner particularly dentists. On we now know that you adjudged within the festival thing seconds and actually those first impressions of how you behave. There two things we know patients looking for. Wome competence is just to those in the two thing won't incompetent. Let comes from great. Recession Harvard. And stint that the wound side of it. Certainly, you competence mighty a certificate. So there will. Be Pitches of you'll. You'll stay compass it to her. Social media whatever it is Oh, your instagram, but you'll wolf is your emotional intelligence. So it's At least fifty. percent on and it gives you ability to succeed with people. And by succeeding with people I don't mean. Coalescing them or influencing them into. Anything you want not pulling your own desires, but if you think of. How people interact as a relationship. So you and on a few weeks ago relative strangers and there's no doubt that relationship was upgraded. You know and and pops it will even more and then you get into the point where I were described the Nevada that has a relationship. Now. Ideally, that takes a little while to do and you spend time with. Dentists inner. You've gotta get not trust on board shop. On the patients who already anxious when they walk in and they're already judgy you you so. Getting out across, we know the dentists higher emotional intelligence equals higher-income. Unless dress listening in that's that's overwhelmingly demonstrable. patients don't sue densely like just don't do it even if you muck things up, they don't see dentists like. This. You did to stay feel emotionally betrayed by emotional letdown ball. So. So I I can't get nothing says. Well, then leading people who listening and watching right now they're thinking. Okay. So Moshe intelligence is incredibly important in what we do out. Can We? So for example to improve one's Iq? that. But let's talk about the issue of emotion televisions. Are you is this something that you're born with and that's it or can you actually work to improve it and if so if I'm a dentist listening to right now and I'm listening I think actually you know what? I could probably be a better communicator. Probably. Come across as showing more warmth to my patients. How do I improve my motion intelligence? Yeah I such a great question jobs I love that question and I don't have a simple about children. As much about that as possibly can. So you walk away you born but then we have nature this is nurture. Argument and you become the person you've become and you all then. Set with your personality and that's who you are. and. Your personality may well, let's let's say you have very low emotional intelligence than sitting working in a sign lottery might be perfectly goofy and there's nothing wrong without you know if you're allowed to not interact with people and if you feel comfortable doing that you can. If you required or you'd be silly enough to dentistry. You will almost required for your own well being to enhance your emotion intelligence. To to get it BETTA. First of all, everyone can get better and no matter how good people think you are not improvement on everyone so we're all on. That pathway and we have joint humility with that. The difficulty with it that I've experienced. Which is pretty well documented by other people involved in the area is it is just like physical training. So if you sitting that now set right, I have to go on twenty kilos of lean muscle mass. You're gonNA feel some type. And the Moshe Intelligence. You're gonNA feel pain as well. Differences was not different spices society. You choose to go to the gym and inflict pain on yourself. You choose to do the Reps. With emotion intelligence, you have to invite it as well. They called me torture you unbidden. So this is this is the thing that blows my mind every time I say it. So it's going to play my mind again but. If you can If you. Choose distress yourself. With something emerge intelligence. So let's let's use it. It's awful. Let's say we have someone who says I really like public speaking even to the point that practice meetings unknow getting my message across. And I'm scanning speaking have quite where but the principal when there were, no witnesses will anyone around you less effective. So. To choose to stress yourself if you choose to do it, you have to make that choice and you go into it because he chose distress yourself. It actually codes the new DNA in your brain and it coats new proteins and you grow new sign ups. So, this has again been Krueger reflows, different functional Mri Studies but actually if you choose distress yourself with emotion intelligence trading. You grow new. Dormant but that Aaron. Everyone. Dormant sign up to connections in your bright those circuits grow and they get better and better better butler. So you can and Hans generally inactive your bright you grow new structures in your bright. And you can just deploy because. I stay. If, you don't use it they atrophy. So if people are too scared of. Pain or to unwilling to embrace that the SOFA, you stress than they don't get out of the university. So we can run courses on emotion intelligence doesn't mean someone is inviting stress. and. We have occasionally or when we've done training, this said to people. Who aren't even hold contact take you home I contacted lean in and shake your hand, and we'll have a two minute conversation with no looking away people can't do it and but if they choose to Kiko Kiko Kiko. Literally you watch these structures grow as it's happening sweat pouring on, and then it grows an hour late comes to do the same and they can look me in the say hi rich Howie. And General I love that I. Love Awesome as his Asia. It needs the neoplastic boss I mean your brain is so that'll be another. I really like the way that you like and everything to actually what's happening inside the biology inside the anatomy of the brain once book. Cool. Quiet about interests read quiet. Yeah. Have Y-. introverts have a larger mcdollar and that's why they're so good at sensing everything and I believe it was book. It may maybe another book where it talked about how we all had these synoptic connection obviously but then. If we liken, for example, your public speaking sign APPs to be a narrow country lane versus large motorway. It depends on how much you nourish nourish it. How much you practice you have how much like? How much you open and welcome yourself to it. So what are the? Given a great idea of how one can go about improving their motion. But before one can do that, they actually need to have a act of. Self discovery to know. Someone may not know exactly where they where they might might lie. So I, believe there are some helpful aids out there to maybe. A questionnaire or something more complex than that to find out exactly exactly where you lie in the scale of Moshe intelligence what can we do for that? I could think about recently actually it's been slightly scripted this interview trust but we have total speakers we haven't. Really hit the questions on point so So what we're talking about like an immediate personality assessment of where I am. So we started with the first scientific that that's myself awareness. Who Will we and? Penalty if you look in business, you got to go on role doing disc. The DISC DIFC. Full or the personality assessments or they might do something cool demise breaks. Those Myers. Briggs type assessments they tend to come with a little bit of a label. So, they are an label condensed stick with you and limit your growth. So we don't really use those in a scientific way that dude and popular because he gives you a sense of self identity. So on my mayes breaks, I'm an EMT Jay. But the fluids without the ease. Extra vote. But. That's not a situation. No one hundred percent extrovert. In fact, if you all, you'll probably in prison and if you're one hundred percent introverts so everybody is an amber that you might just Lee way or the other. So the the more scientific test I encourage all delegates do he's the The Big Five, the Big Five Ocean assessment, and that is one of the scientific psychological literature is based on on. So you have five components to it. You're open conscientiousness, extroversion and agreeable nece annual season. There are subsets within those. and. It's very interesting when people do that with us because they will come by and do a scientific tests but then say I agree with spent but I don't agree wrap it and you think Inside you don't get to agree. That meant to. You just don't like that. Yeah. So for example, my ocean school mine, your autism is nine. Hype alone neurotic, which which isn't a bad thing. It's just thing. But it means that am I going to run a business I really need to work with someone who's really high erotic because I'll just turn up. Envoys that they will be much more structure to it, and actually you know it's not a weakness mates just give me you could work out way you all said, we encourage people if you're gonNA stop to do your ocean. Assessment. Defect, station, assessment, on Line on you know appetizing businesses no, it's. Nothing that I haven't financial interested, but the best WANNA use the summit could understand myself. Understand. Myself come on de in American setup you a few dollars and you get full report. On be ready be ready because the stress is coming you know none of us act. A. Little my schools I did on a and. That makes it interesting reading. It's great and I like how you mentioned about your nine percent neuroticism and you mentioned about running a business there which which I wanna just lead onto next question quite nicely actually running a business and you want to team up with someone who maybe has a highest score to reach some sort of balance but dent dentists and dental practices they work with people they work with teams. So one of the things I've learned through attending these. Sales type courses you know that sort of stop and what they say is the most important thing is the person who owns your phone, your phone, the reception team are the gateway for revenue into practice, and so I think the most important thing to do is if you're going to train yourself and you're gonNA improve as part of. Having more successful business is that it will be silly to just focus on your own emotion tolerance. It will be a great thing to introduce the team to this concert and get your receptionist, your practice manager decision makers in your practice to also learn about an improved emotion intelligence because surely that will mean so much more for business for practice is not something that you talk about. Yeah. Absolutely and you're quite right. You're quite right. So we know that. When when someone walks into any sort of business, any sort of you know hotel lobby or dental practice wherever it may be. When they meet you and they meet the first day it released first fifteen seconds a not not studies being taken to the point where they. Take and medics. admitted interacting with patients on video with video and audio, and then they watched by group of lay people judging the medic. And then subtracting time. So they have less chance to observe this interaction and what the day is making a judgment. On whether this dentist Dr He's going to be sued going to be successful light an audience is incredibly perceptive over this. You know they just feed it. That's emotions eligible. We have no idea about guys on Q. is just he's wound competence and then they sound down. On the down and ended up with silent fifty minute videos the audience still always right. So so that moment now. Your receptionist altering the phone, they haven't got body language they haven't built is like content how? So everything been comes the phone, but interestingly if you look at. Lectures delivered through an audio device. If the speaker is standing up and moving around as they do it I when they say hello to the audience, actually put the handout we call seat but they do it the audience rates that performance much much higher. So even though your reception stuff on limited by audio. I'm not saying that he will grow practice. But, but having been skilled up in just presenting. A wool kind. Immediate point of contact is important. We know what patients want, but my patients want to feel wanted they wanted to light and they want to know that a company not going to go through the know it. Until the U. S. and get into the clinical environment. Essentially when they come to your, you'll reception stuff they need. They wanted they wanted to feel like. They need to those two things. So it's wanted like. Those are the big ones. So how can we get the on teams to also because it's one of those things where if your own a practice and then you tell your team We need to be on motion Tony Let's all improve our emotional intelligence then. They'll. They might listen they might not if someone external sometimes comes then there even saying the same message might resonate with more is one of those things. So do we need to be shedding some emotional intelligent consultants to the practice to help improve or something that we can start to introduce practices? Yeah I mean I think the charity can come from anywhere. I didn't mind if it comes to external sources or internal And of structure to do it for people yourself by me you know that I think that's a great thing as well. Listening is learning and it's valid. Wherever comes from. So so I, I, you know I have no issue with WHO does that but definitely Skilling your. Know one of the key things. Through Anecdote tyneside's east that all. Patients. Judge relationship with you and your nurse massively. How you interact with people is something that subconscious mind observes if you think of. Gyms have a conscious subconscious mind. I'm communication like you do now with just giving each other access to online. So we do. You'll get the to you might get your at system. And and your listeners will be doing the same and we're doing is judging each other's minds and. Your mind how it relates with other people that if you have a good friendly, enjoyable positive, mutually positive relationship nurse patient feel that energy and they they like it in judgy positively because of it as well. Same. The reception stuff it's a whole team training I think is is a vital part of it. You know if you have. A delegates in trouble and not in trouble but just hang on finding difficult. We would always say relationship lightness Gotcha and it's really difficult. I don't want to be there in a bitter twist. You know it's very, very hard. That means you walk into the room every single day having to pour positive energy not just India patient staff around you as well. Very, very difficult to extremely draining extremely draining. Yeah. So the last question I had was I know we saw a picked off from where you're talking and some tangents to get where we are one question I saw missed out was. Can you just make emotional intelligence for anyone who hasn't quite got it yet extreme need tangible in the sense that let's say. Anticipated interests and we have unhappy patient someone who complains how might someone demonstrate or someone who has low emotional intelligence behave and what might they feel versus someone who has high Q. Can can you just explain maybe how that scenario maybe handled and why the role of emotion intelligence may actually have a bearing on the outcome or how is actually proceed and emotions? It is a really good question. Again, Johnson won the words quite expensive an explanation. So. So if you were to look like, Dental Protection Society. Say. This is how you handle complaints. If you have low I, you will just naturally look at that and think a four minute I just follow the recipe all after ABC it's a very linear process. If you have high one, you probably haven't had the complaint in the first place but to when it comes in or you feel it, you would have felt it coming on because even coming on so we have difficult patients the festival, you can spot them. If you have low, you can hire you Kinda -ticipant with coming from. because difficult people are often full of explanations, the wide to know that if. The Martini. A lot about those if you ask and you just have the ability to. UNPACK the mind and understand mind, and then empathize with their mind give their mind somewhere to land and make them a wanted. Even if they won't. Make them feel wanted certainly no, and if a happens, then you really do just reduce the risk of a complaint massively so In terms of a tangible example I am. It. Hospital and we have a patient as lock example who somebody who came in and checked in and the computer system tells us that the here and whatever reason it didn't work to this patient arrives and sees another patient arrive going before them in another one going before them in another one game before then and they go to reception desk after an hour. Of waiting very patient they and I've now finished my clinic and I got to go to a meeting and reception south says, we didn't tell up your appointment on time new reception stuff different one now says you didn't turn up your appointment on time. And? Go, and you'll be discharged. So the patient is now really weird angry I get winded. The patient And if we see the patient if you if you are able which even looking you Charles, you'll be naturally just able to do it. You gotta be up to put yourself in that person's shoes but no put shoes in sixty minutes waiting. So three patients put your shoes into how they athenee. And as a walk in the room act appropriately can textually to someone that he's he's feeling anger but has justified anger is probably feeling a little letdown probably be failing by handsome good sense needs to discuss with a consultant. And now be told they can't have it may be feeling betrayed by the system maybe they had a bad day yesterday as well. They might be Phoenix sad and they might be you know I'd if you could do all of that when they come in, you hit them. With you. And your competence and you look in the is out I. found out what happened to you. You know I'm just so sorry that happened to you. We can talk about that but once you've talked about that now or later. Everything I can to make it right. If you help you as much as cameras, he wants to me about. Immediately. The situation has improved. Now. We have delegates. You say, how did you know how to say that? Unless a because you know if you don't know if it's not given to you, you're going to practice. To say it back to me now. We will stay on, say say about to me now we play. and. Kobe caught not gonNA rope play as you all I'm your on. What The rest of you twenty you're watching on angry patient role played with me and they get really uncomfortable and then they do it and then it comes along and you know the. Feedback we get is from people who go through that process is the one that this change micro. You literally in your best on people venditti. program, and then they can handle those complaints better i. It does fantastic. It really really does. I love these a real life examples that we face. You know very similar circumstances day in Dan are also re appreciate that. So those are the main questions I wanted to cover today because obviously we can talk about this for days and days and days. So those are to keep those listening flavor those who may be unfamiliar with the now they know what it is and how they can improve the. fact, that is something that you can work on by a requires you to out your comfort zone. We touched on a few interesting things about your personality and Lark at the beginning which I quite enjoyed and actually one thing I was going to say to now should we have enough time and we've got a couple of minutes is have you heard the probably saying this name wrong in New Zealand Dunedin Dunedin. Dunedin Studies. I don't know. Oh. Okay I'm GonNa, send you something I'm going to send you an email. I'm GonNa, send you very special IMO. Give you some access some some exclusive content, but is a is, is like the study that you mentioned the ability you said it was in London where they follow people up from from birth to. Of Happiness Harvard happened a study vite. Harvard. Okay well from from what I've read and what I've seen. The Dunedin study is the world leader of all those types of, but as soon as a child is born in the hospital in Dunedin then they followed up every so months and they look at every facet of their development every part of what makes them who they are the relationship with their mother. They're the temperature when they're born various different things than they measure them in measurement to measure them, and then they see who turns up in into prison who becomes successful unquote who. Has a thriving relationships and I just I. Just one of my favorite studies and things to learn about is that and I think so of touch on that. So for those every to put some resources for people to Laconto to you, but I'm also opened up to everyone. US finds something and put on about the Harvard study that you set as well. Pledging to you to put up well, let me great quality of life and lifestyle based on personality summits around there's a difference. Linger. and lost points that he wanted to leave us with Richard. Just just in terms of. Getting back to what now is the time to rebuild? This is the best. This is a transitional talk. This is the time to build on this and and one of the things we help people do willing to help anyone do not just find delegates anyone until is is become that version themselves in the future so so to do. We know how to do that about setting goals about joining the process along those goals and how you can structure that into place on. You know that that's something we would encourage anyone to do don't just become a dentist who follows label goes into Texas take on a different role home next they say that routine cycle is many of us a dead end we know dentist struggling with Stress Burnout Zion depression this. This is the way it's future will three you will for the new one of the and a goal in that process in the is the fundamental engine. Will thanks so much which please do semi some links resources. I want to know about ending that you guys are putting on this as well as the ocean. So the everything on I wanNA put on a link so people can find out more about this because it's such an important topic. This. Sounds great uncle. Thank you so much which is. So hope you enjoyed listening as much as I enjoyed chatting to reporter hide you so much I run for voting for this episode is all present I wanted you to have the choice which episode you want to listen to next. So the choices between emotional intelligence, all case acceptance in small designs. The next episode we'll be case acceptance in small design and I'm not going to tell you the guest is about got someone who live she does the most big cases smalls on cases that I know personally I know them. And the allocated cases the volume of small case they do they obviously speak to patients about this entry. So many amazing gems you pick up. So really excited next episode join US IN A couple of weeks time you've forgotten that content now. Here. On audio listen to is actually available by video as well on the Youtube channel or eventually dental tubular if you wanted and Hans So, thanks so much for taking all the way to the end. Re appreciate it catching Mex- upside guns goodbye.

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Scientists Say Disasters Are Teaming Up During Time Of Climate Change

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Scientists Say Disasters Are Teaming Up During Time Of Climate Change

"It's been a record shattering year for heat in the American West and this weekend is going to be hot too. If it seems like heat drought and wildfires are all piling together it's not your imagination scientists say climate change makes them more likely to happen at the same time. As NPR's Laura Summer reports. It takes a lot for heat to make headlines in Tucson. Arizona as Stephanie Small, House realize listening to the radio recently a couple days ago he said well, no warning for today it's only be one hundred six. Apparently. We're not over a hundred ten everybody should join the weather but this year is getting people's attention. Small House says she's president of the Arizona Farm Bureau Federation, and she also runs a cattle ranch outside of Tucson in the twenty years that I've been here on the ranch. This is probably just the second time that I remember a summer that's dry on top of the heat the entire Colorado River, which is key for Arizona's water supply has been in a twenty year drought. Is there tension in the Vermont Community Right? Now ranchy community absolutely is their stress absolutely these rare events. Are simply becoming more common says, Mogi Sunday professor of Civil Engineering Boise State University in a study in the journal Science advances he says that trend is clear over the past few decades basically routes or getting more intense and hot years or getting more hud, and the cycle between them is intensifying droughts and heat waves feed each other. He says when the soil is dry more of the sun's energy heats up the air then it's hotter making more water evaporate causing more drought. It's climate change driven cycle via have to move past that traditional thinking of heat waves and droughts and fires separately. Because they would work together they. They are the reason that we are seeing so many disasters, happening disasters like the extreme. Across the West this year, what is happening in California is a preview of what we'll see every. We need to act. Now we do not have any more minute I'm not talking about the years we do not have any more minutes to cut our emissions because in a hotter climate he says disasters are teaming up lauren summer NPR news.

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Episode 39: Diving into Dadding! (w/ music producer Ruwanga Samath)

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Episode 39: Diving into Dadding! (w/ music producer Ruwanga Samath)

"Hey. She got him but this one. is so so. Let's take them bed come on. Hey remember back in a black in summertime when the sidewalk. So. That the heat from the street almost Moshe flip flops. Shows and leave. You will hosing your socks a city slickers. There was no voter response. PORNA- Mr Warren. Off The KNOB on somewhat. Vocal welcome back Oman. Do Data's future fathers, potential parents and everyone else tuning in, and this is dad hard with the podcast as always i. am your host Mogi Green Happy Quarantine? Hate saying that every week, but it sounds so good. We're going to keep it going, but anyway what's going on this is dad hard with a podcast as always to connect on a fatherhood, brotherhood, shoes email that potter mill dot Com boss on Instagram at Dad, hard pot and check out the website. We that hard dot com facebook also fees dot com slash dad, hard pot What's up before we jump into this week's festivities I wanNA give a huge huge major shoutout to all of the wives that. That participated in the Father's Day Extravaganza episode so that it was that's episode thirty eight. This is episode thirty nine. So it's the one that's going to be right after this one as you're listening to it if you did not get a chance to listen to that, it is spectacular specifically, because it was a surprise for all of the Dads, who got tribute tributes from their wives on on the podcast, and as I, sent the link to them individually, just seeing their surprise and amazement me an appreciation. Of their wives, being able to come on and do that was absolutely fantastic. I've got some stories back Oh my God you spoke such a motion. We started looking at baby pictures and just thinking about it. It was it was a cool experience? An episode is just really fun. Was it was a complete switch up for what we normally do on here. But it was very meaningful given that it was father's Day so new definitely was the definition of extravaganza forefathers day You. Know if you'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE DAD'S Got To do the same thing you know, so I just wanted to celebrate some of the that I've on the show to those. That did it get those special tributes. Don't worry. I got some surprising too bad for you guys to you. Just wait with that said. This is week forty six. Doubting for me and it just keeps getting reeler in reeler that my daughter is about to turn one years old, and I have actually been this thing called. For a year Sometimes it feels like I've been a dad for three weeks. Sometimes it feels like I've been a dad four twenty three years but the reality is is that hasn't even been a year yet. We're still about six weeks out from from my daughter's first birthday and. It, it's such a cool thing to just be seeing her. Grow and I talk about it every every week. Parents, you know exactly what I'm talking about watching growth progress and this year mark is really kind of for the benchmark, the big benchmark too big benchmark for the for the child, but it's really a big benchmark for us as parents because you know what we kept. These frigging kids alive for a whole. Year that's fifty two weeks. That's three hundred sixty five days. Do you know how hard it is to keep them in a lot of three hundred sixty five days? That's completely your responsibility. When you've never had any type responsibility like that in your life, it's pretty difficult. It's mom wrecking. It's stressful parents. You can attest to it. We can all attest to it. So it is an incredible incredible feat that you know that first birthday. One of my guests JD marlow. He said to me. Because, he was thinking about We did a quarantine episode and he was talking about how he was going to be celebrating his daughter's birthday in quarantine, and it was kind of upsetting because it wasn't just the first birthday. And we started talking about first birthdays. And he said to me, he said listen that first birthday is for the parents, and it's true. You know you have mother's Day Day, but this first birthday is really a chance for the peers to celebrate themselves that they've kind of made it. Obviously, you're celebrating the kid. Obviously you're celebrating. You're happy. Everybody wants to celebrate because your child is now turning a year. It's their birthday. It is not your birthday, but that first birthday is is to celebrate your success as appearance. At least that's what I think, but that's just six weeks away. We will talk about that when we get there. For Right now. The the developmental process in these last three to four weeks like these forties. Forty. Beyond it's just crazy, it's not super. Over, the top and like. Like big developments, but it's like fast-tracking. Small developments and just enhancing those two like maximum capacity. Almost if that makes sense, so for example, you know, she's not seeing any words, but she went from just saying God Baba. Route up, you know just random sounds to. Imitating cadence. imitating words that we're seeing I'm trying to actually say the word you know like when we say something. She's now imitating it. She's trying to do it. You know one thing. She started doing this week. We've been trying for ever to get her to give us kisses. You get mommy gets. Didn't do it never now now. She actually is going through the whole. Of puckering her lips, and putting it to your face, and she's not like giving it, but giving actual kiss. Here's not better, but she's doing the action of doing that she is. She's not saying bye. Bye, but she'll go Baba. Daba, she'll she'll. She'll impersonate and copy the cadence and the syllables that you're saying you know. She now knows what things are I said this a little bit last week that she was kind of starting to learn what things are like. We got her. These picture blocks right. This is a great thing like once they hit like forty forty two. This is a great thing to start to start getting your kids just as an FYI. At least it was a great thing for us. That have you know? They have numbers letters whatever but they also have pictures of different things. Cats, dogs, grapes, flowers ladybugs. Butterflies what have you and it's been phenomenal for her to start associating words with things? So when when she now has her blocks, we can say. Where's the puppy and she'll go and she'll pick out. The dog won because you know we've said it so much. She's learning the correlation between what we're saying. And what things are furthermore when you say, where's the puppy? And she goes find the block. She can also now associate what that puppy looks like what that thing looks like with. Something else. That is the same thing so if she has a stuffed animal. That is also a poppy you can in now. We're in her room, right? The blocks out of the picture you can say. Where's the puppy? She'll look for her stuffed animal. That is a puppy or look for a book with a puppy on it so on and so forth, and she's starting to really make these correlations between things that it's not just one particular. It has a puppy that means puppy. It means that the picture on it is. Is a puppy. You know the dog outside. That looks like the picture is a puppy. ETC, etc, etc. My favorite thing about that is when you do a cat and you say meow. She again is now. She's putting off together right. She's she's seeing that. It's a cat, so she's picking out the cat and you say what? What does the cat say? MEOW? She'll say. So she will now copy of now. She's learning how to put all of these things together to understand what a cat is in full for lack of a better term or an extremely high level version of of that. You know she's a. she's putting these things together. where she just starting to understand things, he's starting to understand processes. She's starting to understand when something doesn't fit into specific space. She is now really into. Taking out kids are always into taking out more like dumping out, but she's so. She's always been into like dumping things out parents. You know what I'm talking about soon as they hit like four months, they WANNA do is just turn everything over and taken out, but now she's finally getting into the mode of putting things back or putting things into other things so all of these. Shape block containers that we got the right name for those are on the idea, but released. These chic blocked containers where they have. The different holes is one. The Star ones a heart. One's a circle blocks are shaped the same way, etc. She never understood that you were supposed to put them back in now. She's trying to figure how to put them back in and put the circle into the circle and the square into the square or try to. If they're color coded. Try to match the colors you know she's. She's understanding the processes of things the other day. She had this ball that she was putting into these. We have these cardboard boxes that are blocks, but letters and pictures, etc.. And they're all different sizes like a Russian doll. Open it up. They get smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller so like that with these different boxes, and she's trying to take her ball and put it into this one box. That was too small for the ball. She was getting frustrated, but then Schinder sturge the. Came to this realization then wait. This doesn't fit. Let me take it out. Put It in this speaker box, and then we if that if that fits in this bigger box, maybe the small box will now fit into the big about. And now she's putting back together this Russian doll block box set and she taking it out dubbing it out, and then putting them back together one by one figuring out how the sizing works to get them all back in. It's an incredible thing to do and I say it every single week I'm still convinced. My daughter's a frigging genius. She's able to do these things. But the best thing that happened this week. Is My daughter walked to me. For the first time now. I'll be honest. She was walking with a Walker, so she had this little pushcart walker that she was doing. She wasn't walking by herself. She's walking by seven eleven months and really genius level type Shit right there, but no. She took her first steps to me. She was holding her walker. She was going to come to Danny. Come to Daddy, and she walked all the way to get to me, and it was the most incredible thing that I have ever experienced in my entire life. Other than you know a bunch of other stuff that. That she's done or being born for that matter, but it was so incredible to watch her. Take those steps to come to to to beat with me. You know what I mean I. It was it was a surreal feeling. I may or may not have shed a tear I'm may or may not immediately of text forty of my friends to tell them. Half of them didn't give a shit, but It was an awesome, awesome, awesome thing. I can't wait to experience her walking like that without the assistance of something because I, just got a taste of it, and now I can only imagine how insanely incredible it is when they take those steps without the assistance of anything. It is really really really awesome. And that really. Chose the growth and the development in their entire bodily function thing you know the bodily function mechanism I should say that when they start taking those steps. That's when they're kind of putting everything together to. Be A full-fledged, being human being I should say. and. That was super awesome. In that's kind of where she's at. It's Kinda putting all of these things that she's been doing. Individually! Now, she's kind of putting the whole picture together. It's almost like she's trying to put a puzzle together. She's not yet. They're putting puzzles together. We've trying, but she's starting to put the puzzle of things and and mechanisms altogether. And starting to gain that understanding, and it's incredible to watch because again before you jump into this parenting thing. This is the thing that you don't ever think about you. Don't think about how they put things together to make your full throw thought processes a person. We just remember that we had these processes. You're seeing the development of the full range of thought process at this moment right now. These weeks forty, two, forty, six I'm short escalates even more until week fifty two, but from forty to forty six dot has been like. A huge compilation of development, acute compilation development package. I will call it. Right there is them learning how to take all the individual individual things that they know that they've learned that they've been trying and now putting them all together to have it start coming full circle. She's still got a couple of pieces missing, but she's getting there to to to end the loop, you know. That's it putting the mechanism together. That's week forty six were at where we're. We're like I said a couple of a couple of Arkansas shy, but she's very close. and it's a fantastic in an unreal thing to watch. With that set that's all for this segment of that hardware the podcast we're going to jump into a musical break on the other side. We have another returning guest. When he was on the first time, he wasn't even a dad yet. He wasn't expecting dad, and now he's a full-fledged father of a month old daughter. He is a music producer extraordinaire about Mr Rwanda, mop and speaking of him. Being a music producer extraordinaire the month of July. Just because I feel like it. I am coining as music. On here on Dad, where the PODCAST because this starts the string of several different music oriented guests that are going to be on the show over the over the course of the month of July so. CHECK THAT OUT! That's that's really cool, got a bunch of really really really awesome people that are beyond over the next couple of weeks, but we'll get to them when we get to them for right now. After the musical break, we're going to jump in Mr Ganga to mop and I will catch you on the other side. Particular. Is Patrick. Got, her? Teaching. Burke. The hand? Back in. Just. On. that. Before you had brings. It just. Sandbox. Felt saying. The ban being of. Spots in? The Small Mike. Shit. We are back with this episode of Dad Heart with the podcast, and as always you know when that music break hits, it is time for the guests segment of the show, so no further ado. I am going to welcome our Second Perspective Dad that we've had on the show who is now coming back on after having his first child he is a longtime friend of mine, and like myself just celebrated his first father's Day. So happy Thursday to you good sir. Let me welcome news producer, extraordinaire Mr Rwanda Soma. Th you brother man. Some. Happy Father's Day to the man. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. How was it for you? Give any was good, my. My baby goes on one month old, so it should choose beautiful legis. I don't think she knows what's going on, but I had a great time. That's what listen. It's father's that you're supposed to be the one that has a good time. You know what I mean like. That's what. Every other day they can have a good time. You could be all about them. Father's Day this all about you. Out just go. So Yemen your one month in when we talked last time. You were I. Think your wife would maybe six months pregnant seven months pregnant something like that. How Yeah! How has the whole experience been for you of like making that transition from normal human being into father? While that's. That's. Crazy one. The whole process was super stressful for me. Because we had to have Ashoka emergency session which we were not prepared for. So that thing kind of like. Are you even before that? We were in the hospital soon fourteen days. That's how how long? Entire process took forever to get here. So by the time she got, we were so tired. I mean it was unbelievable, because obviously not like hospitals couch twelve days out of fourteen days. Which is a nightmare, but after them. You know like honestly I feel like the first couple of nights. You kinda find a groove and. Out Now feel like. Sullivan, but with somewhat settled in until things really start to pick up and they really stop sleeping and just like not listening to anything that you do. Then it gets wild it's funny about kids that are that young like newborns. Because just when you think that you're settling into a groove and you've got it down, Pat. They just evolve on you literally overnight. It's wild. But no man happy that you guys have gotten into this group so far. That's really tough to do. In these first couple of weeks like getting that adjustment and I know you hit me up a couple of times. You like Bro. I'm not sleeping. What do I do I? Still the same thing she she's She's like an angel. During the day during the night time, she just WANNA party. Around I me. She just wants to do everything at night electoral three in the morning. Are you guys doing breastfeeding you doing formula doing Combo, work not. Hundred percent breastfeeding from the breast, so my my wife is taken care of. It's a lot on her. Yeah, it is. How? That hasn't gone everything everything smooth, smooth sailing so far so far soon so far so good, but I don't think she has had more than like. Three or four stretch of sleep for the whole. Month, maybe like six weeks even prior to that. It gets too when you're doing the breastfeeding in like one hundred percent from breast. is so rough on the mom because they have. Do they just have to be up all the time? I did like every time. She Falls Cape. Time to figure again. It's so it's so wild the, but it shows you how strong the female being is. It gives you a whole new appreciation for your specifically your wife, but for women in general and everything they have to endure just so that we can be here walking on the planet. You know what I mean. Democracy the singular the biggest thing that came to me you know that I got out of the whole experience so far it's literally my respectful women just skyrocketed because it is actually unbelievable washing my wife to what she does. Nuts man Just, the carrying this human inside them for nine ten months and everything they go through physically with that then they have to somehow get it out of them and. Just when you think that's the that's the climax of the movie. They now have to figure out how to take care of this thing. You know what I mean it is. It's not man, but beyond the non sleeping in something that how has it been for you I? Know that you are fully in love with this child. Because it's everything that you post about on on your social media, these days are in. Did you expect that to happen like? Did you expect the love and the feelings and emotions that you have now with your daughter in the world to expect that to happen for like I literally spend hours, serenade her. It's it's. It's been I've never I've never been disliked This much I don't know I've. Felt love for anybody like this in my life before. And I'm with a dude. I'm just. Think light is her like I can't even take map. I should be take times. I should be taking a nap of. She's little is wanting to be next arena. So yeah man. I kind of I was I was expecting there, but by. What I didn't stretches How deep it grows as time evolves. And there's A. Layer of like purpose as a new purpose are found. which is amazing, which which gives me access to almost stike on like a couple of couplets guests I didn't have departure was here interesting. Have you been? Have you been working still doing music? Wow! Sh after she's been born or are you kind of taking a break? How is and if you are doing music? Do you find like that extra gear that you talk? About is injected into the art. So just because we had a meal of lockdown overall I haven't had sessions for a while as people physically coming into the studio. And the people that would normally that I would work with you know. They were in the middle of protests and stuff like that, which is great, but I have a newborn, so I can't really bring people into the house at this moment. So I've been you know in that sense? I've been Chilin, but I've been still a lot of music. wait a minute I completed. I still Admin deal. Slash like a publishing deal in the middle of the nose soon as she was born. Some trying to get that going a lot of zoom, 'cause lot of a lot of work. Democrat it. Just it is tough, though because I wake up super early unusually make music in the morning times. But now mom, one time the super groggy like I'm so tired that it's it's. To work part, I'm still trying to find. Find a nice girl for but. You have your mom play music for yet? You have your mom performing for the little baby. That that happened like especially your days. I knew what I knew. She would come in straight with her with her keyboard and just start seeing singing and jim and out for her. That's that's awesome do. So like. Let's. Let's talk about this thing. Man, your dad, Bro, can you believe it? He's either your dad's like the two of us where we were, we were making music together. What ten years ago we'd be in a studio up all night and now we're still up all night, but it's because we have children. It's it's. It's the honest man I feel like. US In our and other other friends of ours that have big Com blessed to be on the side, and it will have like amazing family. Amazing wife at a healthy babies. It's Craz Mesa trip, but it's I feel blessed. You have to your wife, do you month ago? Did you deal with any like complications? In regards to the covert situation that was going on did that make anything more difficult was where the regulations and things that you guys had to abide by the like mead, things more stressful or worked out of the ordinary. Yes? I mean just because we had the whole. The whole Labor session was stressful to begin with. You know because she had low fluids, so we had a staff at the hospital usually I was I would have been able to go in and out liberty. But this time I was kind of stuck at the hospital in because the the. In out was great difficult. Anna and all I mean plus like it would just high unidentified time because there was no family around. The baby came home. She? We had nobody will just me and her. While, because they wouldn't allow family into hospital, though nobody could come just manhood, literally the from from the time we check tend to like we had the emergency selection the recall rates. Everything. We got cleared to go home. That's when we saw people I mean. That's how long how long were you guys in the hospital after she was born? Like five days. Yeah, that sounds about right with a section yeah right. Cheese and you and you guys can leave. That's the kind of the craziest thing You're the second person that I've talked to on here. That gave that went through the birthing process during the Kovin pandemic and Dad. I think is the is the craziest part for me is that you're not once you're in the hospital. You're not allowed to leave and then come back. Once you're in, you're in and then when you go out like you can't. They're not letting you back in. and. That's such a that's such intricate part. Important part I feel like the post birth. Process. I was able to like a grun- back to my house and like go get extra clothes. Go more comfortable clothes for my wife. Go get towels or anything else, or whatever might be that like the baby needed. Go get snacks and food and all this from outside. It's crazy that you guys couldn't leave or that. You couldn't couldn't go in and out. That's wild, just kind of stuck in that little room. Them that. Stuff and my can only like three blocks away from my house Oh my God. I will literally like walk there and it, but you know I I live a couple of times. You just have to be really forced the gun back then for sure. Did you guys get tested before you would make you get tested when you came in? Now every time I went in. They did like a like a de temperature. That was at, but are found a couple of loopholes in like three months room that you could go in. Some other places out, but eventually do. because. I was there for twelve days coverall. You get to know a lot of people and at some point they slow. Your situation ended their conical with you. That is actually the great thing about about hospital staff when you have a baby deer. Accommodating to because they're not so happy for you, and they know like how stressful it is, and you're a new parent and all that type of stuff, so that's that's fantastic that they treated. You treated you well on that front. How is the first night whole? you do. Homeless was. It's crazy. The first night of the baby being born, we were literally like Oh my God. We have the best ever like she's asleep through the ninety little noise. I was just like this is incredible. Second is was crazy. She went like. Buckeye I've never seen somebody just cry for like hours in you know. so I I had homeless Osama shoot. She was just really really fussy like really loud and he was crazy. That, did you have to either of your parents? Stay there the first night or was it just you guys? Mom Dad and parents. Only too far, so they will hear about honestly like we wanted to be We, Kinda wanted to continue that a lot of times the the grandparents com, somebody family members come, so you don't really find. A groove yourself because there's always. Knew other people in the House that normally they wouldn't be Yup. Yes, so my whole thing was we wanted to be even though she had a safe section. She was really down. We wanted to be as independent as quickly as possible, so we kinda everybody. Go Home Aflac four nights. But It was easier. Did they give you help. Those first four nights with that was at least nice to have that there for those i. You guys didn't do baby, nurse or anything like that, right? You're just doing kind of you guys. Like there they were here and they brought like molex food in. New. Health with everything else like breastfeeding goes to my wife like. The diapers so the newborn. That's what Ali do. Change diapers that feed her amber the. So! You don't really be too much help at that moment i. don't think just the food part. For sure. It's funny, my my wife, we found that when our when our family came over right a lot of them hurt. My my wife's mother was great. My my mom was was really good at helping and trying to get things together, getting food, doing grocery shopping for us, but like you know a lot of times when people when family comes over, they just want see the baby, and like do the stuff that you can do yourself that you don't really need their help for you. Know and want to get into the groove like you said yourself. And you know my wife was reading or talking to our pediatrician or something like that and she was finally like listen. If you're going to have people, come over. Make them do the stuff that is difficult for you to do while you have a baby. HOW CLEAN THE HOUSE! How Cook Food You know! Grocery shop all that stuff so that you can spend time at the baby, so it's good, 'cause a lot, a lot of parents in a lot of visitors. They don't do that. They just want to see the baby and stuff, so it's good that your. Grandparents on on both sides were like down to do that and like. Take that load off you, so you can try to start learning how to be parents. Yeah I mean like you said, but honestly they just WANNA kick with a baby to. Of course, that's all they want like honestly just felt like. My wife is like. She's really struggling and and everybody just wanted like called the baby. Everybody wants one chance their time with the baby. And get another another thing. I ran into I don't know if you guys did. Because both our parents on both sides, they grew up in a different concert and it was completely different time period you know. So House journey that was. Like differences like you know like Nejib, wake the baby up every two hours to feed. That was back then. Oh Wow so were they like getting getting on? You about do net. That's something be i. didn't end sped that? We will run into, so they had there were so opinionated on, but things were all the time so different bill really both you guys sleep through the night. We're like well. We have to wake the baby up every shoe hours to feet. And back in the day like days, give babies water. Now. They don't really give Wadis. Breastfeeding Let formula. For Sore. That's wild is so being that that's the situation that you guys have this kind of like blended cultural family now going on right Other than that type of stuff, his that kind of inject itself into how you guys are planning to to raise your yard daughter. Are you trying to do it a little bit more traditionally for each of your cultures, etc, or are you kind of listen where American? This is what we're I mean we're American now I guess like this is what we're doing. We're we're. We're going full throttle with this whole This new age culture that we're living in. I think. Obviously like. A project the best of our coaches, whatever realm and whatever that will help her. Dad. I'm really right preparing for the future you know. And it small I I. Liked him us as whole you know. We're just getting better. You know weekend new technology new information new everything, so you might as well. Go along with the time at really practical at least for me. Put my daughter, so that was west to calm. For sure, that's definitely true you know I, it's interesting because I find that I've talked to a couple of people that have you know immigrant parents or or or or immigrants? Themselves not born here whatever and when they have kids that seems to be the answer a lot of times, which is funny because I think I just feel like the older generation like you said once it. Wants the kid to be raised under the culture that they were. They were brought up in, but you know we are just like not man like we. We're so far past that and a lot of know for a lot of people that I've spoken to that been like a point of contention between parents and grandparents I. Assume you guys are only a month in Iceland. You haven't hit any contention points as far as that is concerned. Maktoum Nunnery. No district because like. Here's the thing if I'm sure. Can we know when I grew up in Sri Lanka? Only people associated with. Right. That's call. Know everything about the beautiful thing about being in America is that you get to meet different people from different cultures? You get to see like different ways of lives than you could. Really they can choose the best of all. You know sure sure that's like. Yes, so I have the have from every different background and Dino, some some of their culture. Some of the things from the MAZING I wanNA. I WANNA. Take. You know pick-and-choose. and. Give the best Dr Not just like what we grew up in for sure what's been the? Most difficult thing about making the transition for you besides the sleep. Obviously, this is terrible, or lack there of asleep, but what's been the most difficult thing for you transitioning into this new life of yours? Answer like getting back to work might is probably a little bit tougher than expected. just because the because wearing the creative space You need to have a fresh mind. And and I rarely get that. You know it's only been four weeks and my my wife's just now getting back to normal Yeah, maybe that that has been has been a little bit bit of a struggle. where? That's. Like getting back to normal in general is is kind of. Mind Fuck for lack of better term. You know what I mean. This new identity now as a parent and trying to get back to what you were before then is always is always super difficult. That transition is just. It's a weird thing because you're so emotional like you mentioned. You know what I mean like. Throw many motions coming through when you have this thing now. Having to think about going back to normal life is wild. Are you reaching out to a lot of people for for advice for help you find your. Exterior. That's true. I definitely I am. That's that's code into I'm. I have I have. Like Parent Friends of mine that have that I different stages like you. Sound like you because you're a few months ahead of me. Like the first few months is a long time. Massive difference so it's good to have like you. Like you know people like you and I have another friend of mine today that I will reach out for an asked him like hey, like what's going on at two three months. That was like that. For, sure. For sure well with that with that said I know that one of my favorite parts about having you on the first time is that you really flip the script on on me when we were doing this chat and the just ran the Rimi through the gamut of asking me questions so now the Task Actually Dude Rome this. Is You just ask you the question about reaching out to people? Reach out. I'm giving you. What what what? What can I help you with sir? Yes, so. How long did it first of all? How long did it take quite a session as well hold on. Did it take for her be? Complete normal. Probably about six weeks probably about six weeks. To be like functionally normal right? When she went back by by the time, she went back to her six week post op appointment, she was cleared. Choose physically fine. You know still little bit now. She probably has some. Probably. Not I WANNA. Say complications and I don't want to say. You know injuries or hurting, but like you know. Her ads. Her core is definitely a little bit more. Than, it used to be like when exercising and stuff like that, but she was back. She was back pretty much to normal after six weeks. Got An awesome house the. Like you said I three months. What Kinda Ross right as our sleep, schedule and everything. When does he get somewhat like? Look said right before we got on, you said you said Hey. My daughter just went to bed our early out. What's what's usual time seven? I'M EX-CHAIRMAN PM. What time did you wake up like selling and I kinda got jealous man. Of course well. I was twelve hours. What that debt doesn't even seem real man. So when did this so happened once? We moved her into her own room. That's when she really started sleeping through the night. because we like you. We had to wake her up every couple of hours to to eat. You know for those first three months. She had lost a significant amount of weight. In her first month, so we kind of had to play catchup lot for those nuts, too. But, as soon as she can roll over herself, you take you know you're supposed to take of Waddell because if they roll over in Swat oil, they. Can't get themselves back over. Early so they can actually end up on the stomach to suffocate. You know in the mattress, so you know you wanNA. Keep them swaddled on until they can roll over so suk basically as soon as she was ready to kind of roll over. We try to put her in her own room. Maybe like four months four or five months, and at that point she started pretty much sleeping through the night like those first couple of nights or first couple of weeks. I want to say we're rough man. They were rough because she just didn't want to sleep in her own room so getting. Her down was really tough if she woke. Woke up in the middle of the night. 'cause she likes spit out her pacifier, or was used to eating in the middle of the night, shoot, cry and crying, crying whale, wail whale, and it is so hard to let them cried out that I. Think is going to be in this first year. That's the hardest thing you have to do. As a parent is listened to them, cry, and just knowing your head that in the middle of the night I'm talking about you'd have to know in your head. You just cannot go in there. You have to let them cried out or else. They're just not gonNA sleep through the night. That's going to be tough. It's tough. It's the hardest. Remember something something that I never saw like. Babies are really loud when their sleep right. Would it be loud. Like she makes noises like the tyrant, every fucking noise wakes. Coward one time with an hour I woke up twelve times checker. That's. Does she sleep on your side of that show? She got the snore and she's on. Our feet. Are is like A. Private. So I literally I'm such a light sleeper, so every little noise she makes it could be like breathing for whatever is at nighttime noise sounds terrifying like I feel like she's choked. No matter what she does in my history Shokhin I gotta say. To I used to do the same thing. My my daughter's. She always slept next to me. We also the snoop. I think actually told you that. We this new and that inspired you to get it when you're less. But we so she's always slept next to me even now I. Sleep with the Monitor next to me, so it's still like she's sleeping next to me, but yet those that first couple months every sound every here in the house. You just think that something's wrong with the baby it's it's wild, and but that first month right especially I two months. They're really trying to figure out what this breathing thing is. You know what I mean how to breathe. Their knees package passages get really like clogged or not all the way clear from the NBA fluid and stuff like that, so they like make a lot of noise in their in their sleep. And stuff like that. It's terrifying like you're living in a horrible because you're just constantly waking up to like check and see if she's she's breathing matrices. Okay with that. It's a wild things, even when we have the opportunity to get sleep. I still don't get any sleep. 'CAUSE you're waking up every four minutes to make sure everything's cash. Hundred percent I am I. Am I'm a? Five seven minutes just Jig on debate, because just because she sounds like she's choking. Just because there's like trying to figure this whole thing out. You know like you're trying to figure out how to be a parent. They're trying to figure out how to be a human. Crazy crazy another thing. She does not like a pacifier. Really. Every time I put it on. She destroyed essentially just experts at out. Interesting. That's you know. We did actually I. Don't think she was into the past fire too much the first time. For the first little while we give each a a glove like like a rubber glove, the US early texts glass. And put it on your pinky. Or you have glove on, and you put your pinkie in their mouth for them to suck on, and it's really kind of calms them down a lot. Yeah, it worked a lot. We learned that in the hospital it was fantastic to do. We used to do that a lot when she would like cry and like be out of control crying. We didn't know what was going on. Latex Glove pinky boom. While dude I'm going to try that man because she just gags. Every time we try to the things she gags any just it just not a good luck. Yeah, it's a pacifier. That earlier a little. Because like I said they're still trying to figure out how to be a human which includes how to breathe so like. They just don't really understand what's going on, but the sucking really soothes them. You know my mother-in-law was a a like a like a speech therapist and she actually told that to us from jump like Sh-. They don't introduce the pacifier so much like you can do this with your pinky. Because the sucking mechanism actually soothes them relaxes them. It gives them some calm so I'd recommend trying that for sure argued I'm guessing that. Try to what you said. Three months. That's when you move. Your dotting on Roy four I think it was like four for us like four and a half months. She's four and a half months. We started sleep, training her and putting her in her own room. Got It, and he said he was terrified right at first. Alone. With the most terrifying thing ever you think waking up in the middle of the night like hearing your daughter make meek sounds and thinking something's wrong as terrifying. Imagine! I should say wait until the only way you can hear your daughter is your daughter is through a monitor. Best horrible I did not sleep the entire I. Think the first four days that we did it I did not sleep a wink. I was up all night staring at the Monitor. Making sure that everything is fine. And then I actually went one step further. I would like to go and sleep on the couch so that we slept because we kept my daughter's room door open so that we make sure we hear if she cried out sleep on the couch with the Monitor, so that I would make sure that if she was crying in something was wrong I would be able to hear it. Wow. That's something I will I might actually camp out in that room without Hanoi Dude, but then who wants she sleeps once she does do the sleep. Getting out of their bedroom like when you're putting them back putting them to sleep at night. It's like it's like mission impossible. Like making noise and disrupt Oh my God. It's over so for you. You'll see. You'll see that deal with now. We like the finally. Get Out Room and creek the door. She's freaking out because she knows I'm leaving. Another question. First couple of months. How often did you guys like beds are like. How often did you wash? Once every couple days. Know. Once every couple of days now we. We give her a bath every day like it's kind of like. It's part of her bedtime routine. You know she'll eat dinner. Take a bath. Then we start getting ready for bed and sleep but at that point we probably every once every two to three days probably. Because you don't want to dry out their skin too much, you know what I mean, right? It's one of my favorite things to do is bring to the studio and I play music. From different eras that's awesome. That's my fair thing to do and so far she's responding anywhere like eighties. Big Neck smash hits. What! Life Toto Africa like Collins huge smashes from the eighties south, and she loves rap rap. Sheets when she's being crazy. Some rap music, she the Stan Jason That's amazing for. We did the same thing. That's how we kinda got her on Like on a routine calmer dow and changing her diaper is we got her we. We would play music. Alexa is the greatest the greatest invention for child care ever in the history of the world because amazing. My daughter knows now as soon as I say Alexa. She knows that one of her favorite songs like coming on so what I used to I used to every open because they still do when I wake up in the morning. Or I'm the WANNA. Get up with her in the morning. I always start off the day with Let's stay together by Al Green. And she loves then. She just knows she knows sick. We're GONNA do this. This is going to be awesome. You know and. I like tickle her on the side like like during the during the same parts of the song every time she like the whole routine, getting into music as part of their daily routine or like. Going to bed routine waking up routine is is super helpful to like. Get them in that in that vibe in that mode. You know what I mean. It's amazing man. Yeah Frustrations Michael Jackson. Why t number one is this love? By molly and it's usually a steady one great nice. that. Not just want to get the best of the best. What what's you like routine like the? Could you give me a quick rundown like when she wakes up at seven? Like what do you do? When you're getting up. Now. Listen during the weekdays. My wife gets up with her 'cause I'm clocking in clocking in for work like nine am so like getting at seven and doing the morning routine and getting real difficult makes the day real long for Daddy. You know what I mean. That's real dad hardship over there. You know when that has happened. But you know. I, do weekends and. Up We re change your diaper to some Al Green. You know we we hang out a little bit I. She's nine now at the point where she's standing in the crib up on maybe some music and she'll start dancing in her crib because she like knows like so excited. Open the curtains change her to Al Green that will come out and she'll like play with her toys and stuff like that in the in the living room for a little bit And then I'll. We'll get breakfast ready. She's eating real food now so like Don. Waffles and French Toast Eggs Yogurt, lot avocado. Peanut Butter Avocado with. Peanut Butter Bananas, whatever. Breakfast, and we, and then she plays for a little bit more or will watch some some sesame street or right now she's into Pete. The cat the youtube videos pete the cat, so we'll watch. Maybe watch pete the cat if she's like a little bit on the side. And then like by nine o'clock, she's ready to go back down for I nap. So nine o'clock boom bottle bed. Later! It, then what time she wake up ten about ten thirty eleven. Yes she takes a two and a half two hour nap. and then you know then we start with the day. Try to get outside, you know. Go for walks on weekends. We're trying to go to parks and stuff like that kind of sit out. Relax, you know. Get some fresh air and stuff like that. Yeah, but the the mornings those mornings are kind of like a stringent stringent routine. We got to start the day. Start the day off. Right I mean do people. On ABC's Especially for manned by like for me like I, don't start the day off in a certain way. My whole day becomes kind of fucked interesting. I am not a morning person so i. don't know about that life You Know I. I- Mornings and me do not get along I'd rather just I'd rather wake up late and go to sleep late. And like do everything. Late at night, which is also kind of works for me and my wife's like schedule wise I waking up with the baby. She's a morning person. I'm not so she'll do stuff in the morning. And then you know once the baby goes asleep. She's like I'm clocking out. I'm done. Rest is up to you so I'll do dinner in and clean up in and dishes and all that type of stuff. and. We'll as well right. With down. You guys are both working from home now, yeah! Okay vets. It is, it is. It is an experienced? Cool is one word to describe it, you know. But, but no, I haven't in honesty is just crazy. Thing said only seen like physically seen. My parents her parents and the baby now the baby by likes, GonNa. Have seen people. Sick crazier that you know how. How is our now? She's. She's like eleven months. While that is. Like what's crazy to me that from one month eleven months? It's like like nine and damaged. She's like in a different stage of life. That's just so crazy to me that that to grasp that crazy as soon have videos. From the first few nights of my daughter opposed to now, but she. It's so crazy how? Do you look back at pictures of her from when she was like. I don't know even like six months and she's just so different now then I look back from the days of the first couple of days and eight is like what I don't believe that you ever like that. Tiny leg I don't even remember that it's crazy. It's wild watched the whole evolution of them. And watching them just grow and evolve and start doing things. And communicating different ways. It's just a beautiful beautiful thing. At this age of highlights like eleven months. What's the biggest thing biggest challenge you run into? You know. That's a good question Mr Rwanda. The biggest challenge with her is keeping her stimulated enough to continue developing at a good pace. You know what I mean that's that's like that's the hardest thing in finding new ways to stimulate her. You know what I mean without having a by like a new toy every four days. You know what I mean. That's that's the that's the been the most difficult thing about this stages is. Being creative enough to. Do Different things to to keep pushing the evolution for development. I. It's an I mean especially with the lockdown. that's. That's been a tough one for sure. Because you can read i. mean kind of like restricted like your home or maybe the park. RIGHT UP, yeah! And like not evenly playground park like just open grassy knowles. and stuff like that it's. Like visitors to come see her and I was thinking to have any play dates. That right now. Not really mean like. Recently we started. We started branching out doing some interpersonal like face to face. You know, hang out stuff, but always like open air, Park beach you know walks on and stuff like that. We haven't had anybody in our apartment. That is not my wife's parents. Okay Gotcha Yep because a lot of people. That that. Don't even live too far. You know they WANNA come. See the baby, but like. I really can't. I can't take that risk. She's only one month you. How is that? How has been dealing with that? 'CAUSE LIKE I? Know it's like A. It's a weird thing when you I have a kid and you have friends like family. Fine, but when you have friends that want to come, see the baby. Even Kovic stuff unrelated. It's a weird position that you're in is apparent, because like hugh also don't really want everybody in your house around this newborn baby. That doesn't have any shots doesn't have any vaccinations. No immune system at all whatsoever. I don't know what you did last weekend. You know what I mean. Whatever how is it in now with this specifically with the covert lockdown or covert lockdown? How has it been not being able to like? Allow people to come and like. Friends took to come and see them has been tough on you. You've been like. A lot of shit from about it from friends. Yeah, everybody wants to come. See the baby, and it's been you know I have to shot down every time is, it is I mean. I put my wife's. Mom she she went back she. She's a hairdresser. She's. So he went back to his shop because it. and. She's on content. So she hasn't seen the baby for the last two weeks. To work and I'm pretty strict on that and I'm pretty strict highlights. Keeping people away from the baby and it's been. It's been a little tough, especially in all like people. Are Seen as you should understand mason baby like you know unless you have this shots to the Iran Schmidt. Ask Ac-, I agree, and you know what you only understand that once you become apparent. Right that for sure you know when you're not a period, you don't get that. You're just like dude just like come on. We you're my best friend. Let me see your fucking kid and you're just like as a parent. You're like I. Dunno, Bra like you know. She has never shots I. Don't know. It took us a long time. Actually when Aurora was born in this, you know very much. Pre lockdown took a while to start being comfortable with like people openly being around the baby, also just in general, it's a it's a weird thing, but I always I always want to know about from from different people how it is. And for you with the lockdown, it's probably tenfold because you have to lock it down which also? A good excuse. In another way the lockdown do help just because you could our spam the to. But that's. Just about to say, probably like a good excuse to just be like. Did Cova Lockdown Kent Come Sorry Bre? Could always be like hey, man with the Kobe. Nineteen doctor said. Don't don't have anybody around so. I'll let you know issues clear. Right exactly once. Normal and it's lifted your all grits and gravy man. It's a crazy time. Crazy in general. You know while time to be kids in man, this is I'll tell you one thing twenty twenty a year that we will never forget you. Both you and I right because we have kids, but because we had to start having kids in this. Brave new world that we're living in It's just been a wild year brow, but room in I'm I'M GONNA. Let you go here in a minute. And, but I'M GONNA. Do is I'm GonNa, ask you this. I ask every dad this when they come on, and now that you are officially part of the fatherhood. Brotherhood, I'M GONNA throw it at you. It's only been a month, but what has been your favorite thing about being a dad. Man are it's hard to say one thing, but I love when she just liked. What you now there's there moments where she just locked at locks eyes with me. I will start looking at each other for like. It's only probably you know. He's fears that for hours per probably on the minutes in reality like that's probably like Event if I would capture those moments understand that for the rest of my life. Exactly what you're talking about. The way they look at you and you look at her and it's just. The whole everything around me just disappears. I mean I have. A joy like this to be honest. Rancher have like a baby girl like that. Just Stephen hold her. There's You know. Being by like, it's very hard to explain what it is. You know I I don't think that the the English language is is we have enough was described. The exact same, so you go through when you actually hold your child I I agree with you that it's a new like it. You alluded to it in the beginning of the conversation. It's a whole new gear of emotion that you. Arise Zach. You know what I mean, this whole new level of love of emotion of caring of you know. Of everything you know what I mean, it's it's pretty pretty pretty nutty. And the. Hundred I agree. I agree yeah. I mean like I also think like up like my respects. Women sounded like a whole `nother. I rela feel like a woman. That's have somewhat of a career with child. You should definitely get paid like why triple your salary! Audience hundred. It's a crazy thing. Man, so yeah so. I'm sure are behaving up. You know a lot. I already have the last like four weeks I'm constantly text in your by this dad of says first of all is great friend. Light you. That's you know that that decided to jump in the pool before I did. kind of land from you like you could tell me now. This is something different you don't you probably don't need to do this or you should do this? It's like right now. Like from just from this conversation I know how to put like lakes glove on and just super with my Pinkett as he's trying. To See if it works. It helped a lot. Yemen Santa is really good to have you. As a friend Bros, Rian for Shechem and you, these podcasts amazing as well I appreciate it man, and you know you. My Guy Rotted rotter die till the end man brother from another mother. You know congratulations on on the on the baby girl. And and thank you for. Taking some time out of your first month with your daughter to to do this. You know I'll be talking to you, very. We'll be talking all the time just like you said and man keeping join that baby man. Thank you for having me on absolutely not Soomro. And that was my main man. Rwanda Samah Music, producer, extraordinaire and the brand new father of a baby girl. That's offer us for this week's episode of Dad hard with the podcast to connect on a fatherhood brotherhood. His would email dad. Hard pods email dot com follow us on Instagram at Dad, hard pot and check the website with this episode of the podcast will be blamed right at the top. You can listen direct. WE DEBT HEART DOT com. That's all for us until next week. Same debt hard. Tom Saved at our place where out. Back. Just the. Brings a kid about your wave? Could. Be a little kid A. Things, free service and all that. The playground. Played on the monkey bars or whatever? Go.

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Cord and Sara McCoy: From racing around the world on The Amazing Race, to running a ranch and raising a family, Cord and Sara are true examples of The Cowboy Code.

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Cord and Sara McCoy: From racing around the world on The Amazing Race, to running a ranch and raising a family, Cord and Sara are true examples of The Cowboy Code.

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You think I'm already done the race once second time ought to be really good at it. I'M GONNA win for sure in you run into the Saint John's. Probably didn't last ounce the think you're prepared for him. You better say time is still tough. It's is still it's Jones. Was it frustrating knowing that everybody was trying to get y'all out because y'all were such a tough team that frustrating knowing that was against you the whole time. Well, I. Guess we never did. Likely that. We were a tough team on her own challenges through everything. We didn't really intentionally not buddy with off. Most tight. We were so off by ourselves just felt along but. It was good. You need advice. Through the race, we didn't run together but you know we we still stay on the ice. The research is the way of the same common story and we we had an experienced together. There's only a small group of on the world at done. Danila experiences the challenges in the world in I, tell people that the biggest blessing that you get from the amazing race is seeing and realizing what you are in the air I mean we're bliss where we live in Mogi today. Do you keep up with from the race? Was Seeking Bud. L.. Dollars out there I guess for a lot of US you know social media these days from Nashville to California Oklahoma same pretty close together that we can. We can on. facetime conversation or watching the kids grow up it's it's pretty neat in any time you serve out with the racers. You see what they're doing in the late hits back takes back memories like old number. So six when they About the. After trail. The. It is something that kind of rage vacuum town. Well, Janai we owe you our whole raise experience because. Know when you watch us back, Jin was working cord so hard because we were at one of those apps where we had a simple a car, I was having a full blown meltdown is I cannot assemble anything and it was all in a different language I. Think we were in China and we get to. My God. We had a symbol this like fifty, seven, million piece electronic car and I was like I can't do it. I like balling apart and didn't like court court. You've gotTa Give Express Pass we're the weakest. Were not threat go ahead and burn it up right now. Yeah. It. was. Usual to. I feel like we had this this this card would people always begged for all down the last night word is. It so We wanted to get rid of to, of course, your young. Ones. Well. I have to say Y'all are class act the whole time such gems. Incredible guys in. I know the first time that cordray. Scranton married is that right? Like, the I I. I first done actually I knew I was going to go on this trip around the world I guess I wanted her hand before I left. I asked certain Mary me a week before we left no race the first time. The funny thing is that non you know is the second time they called US and says. Would you be interested in writing again? Yeah. Of course in said that we would leave you know the the second week of November. In acid aw I'm sorry. Getting Ready to this wedding for year and a half. So as We. Can't they call back and they said, well, if we let November fourteenth, would you go so I actually got married on the thirteenth in golfing around the world without brothers honeymoon brother get. I got married and just lift the second time in our. He'd come home with a million. The, what was it like for you? Sarah when when cord left to go race on the world, not one, not two three times in the middle. So I am you're engaged second time you just got married I mean what is it like when he's just gone because there's no contact you're gone for a month you can't communicate at all. You have no idea where he is what's going on with you and your world during that Utah's you try to stay so busy because you can't help but be a little nervous because it's Crazy world out there and. You're like. They're having fun in hopefully the I. Know it is. It's crazy people ask me and It's just funny because they literally call you and you get so excited to get the phone call from the amazing race in their. Lives. So, they call and check in with you like the production would recall it once a week. Yeah. Just to say hey. There live. That's basically it's like literally if You know. Your. Work. Are, there any more details you can give? Ya. Never went. So. Dog I feel like the production team they are sealed lips are sealed like they don't give you any extra information. It is the bare minimum. Reserve. Okay. So I wanNA, talk about y'all's. Live on a farm because you by are true cowgirls in. And you got a little little cowger, salsa. What. Yes you want you. Know. About it. What do you got a Saito so tell us everything. Yeah. Yeah, she's starting to talk so much so fun by know every day. Really feel like we get to live out our dreams. Your. To surround livestock votes raised that way. So on the Knicks race whole in environment in culture, it's so fun saints on. Difficult every day what today's read you don't know how we're going to get out or you're going to need more feet is just like. Out. Just, trying to survive. But. Some fun the what do you do? Every? Dan. What is a day in the Lai might? Toward Rex? Getting Ready To production sales a year. So we raised and training and sell bucking bowls. The bowls that you see on TV we raised three. I switch seems a little bit ice radicals professionally, and now Cadillac the coach of the Bulls. So always worked on a lot of got production sale coming up here at the rage. In November. So getting our catalogs together. We actually braid the option, right if you're to the rage in the. Circus can't set up air mean that concert, your them or so. All Day, to seize the keep us busy but this weekend has a big more. That's on TV and Talso take most of that in the above those showcase those. scattered. full-time. Okay. So you bring very good. You are a bull rider I don't know if you're still writing both but you are professional bowl writer. What kind of crazy person is snow bull rider. That's yeah I think it. Started or for fun when I was just a little bit older than in Tulsa. Junior. IOS Get on camps skiers for fun but by the time I was asked loves. Bowls in Romania. So. Then I got full scholarship goad southwestern. Oklahoma state on the RODEO. but after college straighten fashionable writing. It saints so dangerous and crazy, but you know when you're discount A. Natural good leave for so much time and effort into is someone right to check for word great seconds. It's hard not to do it. I guess there's a lot of the drawbacks of it woke up in love different hospitals around the country. Stitches broken bones but. Again, love to do it. Tonight some. Eighteen, hundred pound animals of. Late, has lately. But I guess you scroll love into it in. As. That was riding bulls. We count was raised in our own bulls practical in an Hispanic. He played baseball your whole career and then switching to coachee. Scientists still be around or almost every week in in be involved. It's it's a pretty exciting other lil in your body. Probably. Thank you what are you? What do you think when you're in? And the gates are about to open your about to ride this animal that is doing everything. He can get you off his back in kill you maybe I mean I mean sure that's not as goal, but he doesn't care. What are you thinking in those seconds before the gates open? Well, a tell him. He was kind of like riding a roller coaster with no seatbelt a main when it Kinda goes upside down. You'd be like how many reporters that we've done interviews with. All all central ball will then they set added shoot and they can feel an eighteen hundred pound animal radi now might almost in real. Yes So they can kind of say, yes, it's so it's definitely when when you see the gate open up a not that your flashes before your eyes, but you go to the fagin react in real fast is you know what a a small mistake can cause. Do, you have a pre riding ritual like how to get your mind writes. Pray Own. I raise phrase go routines like the any other sports this. Last one, two, three, four, five, six. You know. You're such. A reaction order is talking about you know being on a hidden not. The. Best Way to learn at nine mile fastball is to see it. You a million times so Same thing it's it's a reaction four. When they opened the gate at time of fake is just it's all all reaction. So Brett call with issue in. It's just it's game time you go. And Sarah. What are you? I mean like you have to be a certain type of bad ass woman to to be married doing this because why what? He's GonNa Amazing Race you're like every single time he's throwing himself into the per agers What's your routines prepare for that? Cord lots of Cray Cray In you just wait, you'll be waiting by the phone every time if want them to see that Hong Hall from him. And if you didn't get one right away. Did start laying a little bit but now extreme faith and lots of prayers. Sarah one time to the stands as she watched the other bull riders. you still have erased. Let me be your your joints show. Yeah. You don't ever I I never got some point where you're just like watching it sitting there calling me like online with. Just said it's. All. But Oh God. Yeah. Are you both kind of Adrenalin Junkies? King. I wouldn't really consider myself that much not I. Guess you get. You crave it some but you know I don't just like get unwarranted really want to jump out of the day like. Mrs. or something there's. There's certain things said, knows that might. Kicks off a but. I. Like what? started. Jeep is has no of all set. Up You know like you just make up. Writer now that I'm. Not sure. What? Not The whole time and the next thing you know you're writing for your like really it's funny to talk. Now that he's retired, we watched the bull riders in we. We're like we're kind of like Oh man maybe he should give it up a running engine shorter version out there. You think much. Did you. Ride stuff. Were you in the in the rodeos to? Yes. So you're up my my. Sisters are. My? Sisters Order. Are you I'm second youngest okay. Second youngest. Yes. So in our dad rode professionally as well but we grew up around this so. That You're win your husband's. But Yeah you were. Around it and So what are some I feel like everyone needs to know some of the basic. Like. Where the Cowboy Code, the cowboy cowgirl code like nobody is better cowboys, cowgirls. Like keeping their word. Following through like. Of the codes that you live by because, I, feel like that's lost on a lot of people in the world but like when you're a cowboy and a cal, you have this like certain set of standards and codes just like just how it is. So what are some of those? About a call, the total west. The. Honesty would be the one of the biggest things. You know it takes so long to earn in in one day to lose it forever and I. Grew up with sanding behind your word you know. Watching. You say that when you stay at it. Kind, of idea. I think we may be disarmed famous Kinda grow up with the you know working hard of your. Is Way on think that'd be free of the main things that I think about it I think the. Popular thing about this is not. Being accountable studied in your the cowboy hat or the it's out of the way a lot in. It's kind of a popular thing I. really like you know you can live downtown New York City in live that the West that cowboy way because if I walk out without a hat on even more sneakers. The cows wouldn't care undressed for the house. You know it's it's the way you treat them feeding them. Knocking wearing. Bermuda shorts still feed them and they'd still be happy. So the dress code is not not yet. Way. The Western the. I agree, Sarah What do you think? Do you have anything to add to the codes? I agree. But also, WANNA. Add near lands living. Grateful. Grateful for every day in be kinds I think Cowboys are the kindness housing have roles as a hall of the kind of world. So always having that. Willingness, to help others and I. Realized it's a IT'S A it's a small world. Slight Sarah says though you know treating someone bad the news travels fast in in it's always. In. The. Role is yet so fast in some places that you know offending somebody is not make deal they can go to the next person. When the fan knows next person you're gonNA meet as well. Saints to hold more more weight behind it that you know I don't get mad the next guy's not gonna be business with me and I think that's a a way of glass this the still live in the the cowboy the Western way. I feel like. The. Cowboy. Is unlike anyone's work ethic also, and the lack of complaining like I feel like cowboys and cowgirls don't complain. Say. House get out or something's happened with your graphs or whatever's going on a you really can't sit around and complain about it because you just got to take action right? Listened. In democracy. There were some things that. I learned on a nice race may be better. In the air was. With, those slaves that I didn't really know how to do when I started but you know the the persistence of a fasttrack and learn how to do this jaap the faster I can be done to go to the next leg the rice in. The oft take with me today is like I'll step into a new job or new. Challenge in will think back to the amazing race thinking you know what? Yes just grinded out even if it's like carrying thousand bags if the you know the the the fasttrack area that I fifty, the bachelor, the rest of them go. Like I learned on the race that is still affects the challenges we had today. Well and Sarah I, want you to know this court I. Don't know if you noticed to the cowboys they got stuff done faster than anyone even a big didn't know how to do it by court is saying the cowboys would figure it out. It's like the way your brain work y'all could just assess the situation and knock it out of the park as like. Than It was almost like magic times. It was crazy. He didn't feel like that at the time. Great. So, why are some of the things that you took away from? You said you learned some stuff. I. Learned a lot of stuff to. Yeah I think. What we started with. Just the appreciation I I know a lot of. Sri Lanka, India there were. Some challenging went to. And? You, don't. Just be raising Tulsa today in all kids learn. Free. Free challenging locations that went through in May and you know you you take off on the race no they they must have million bucks I must get. By the time you get around the world. It back the. You don't feel like racy but may nominee more you WanNa win i WanNa do a good job belie. Who am I to to wine about anything of some places that we cease? I totally agree just appreciation of realize how blessed we are and how much we have over here like it's unbelievable and how much how little it takes to actually be happy. If you have a happy marriage and a life that you love your better than most. Ilya. The editor was one of the things and not start bad about some of the coaches they win in but it might be the wealth of the countries didn't always relate exactly to the the happiness that they had. Some of the richest you know most prevalent locations restore locations in the world is kind of rotate when gifts direction. 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Lido pizzas square because Ledo pizza never cuts corners, check it out at little pizza. Sarah I wanNA talk to you guys about Y'all's journey to Tulsa. Your sweet little girl who everyone hearing this beautiful little buzzing chirp Angel in the background. You guys had a seven year journey never and apply going GONNA. Get Emotional because now I'm a mom we struggled for like a year to have sunny but like y'all y'all waited seven years for Tulsa. Hobson to me about that journey and. Yeah we'll. I'll. Start Actually met my wife Sarah in Tulsa, Oklahoma in. It was a I. Don't know if it's a joke I had a girl person You know that we would never toll sims the classic joke but it can up. Over us the same fury. But Sarah she went more riding on Friday night and she told her dad that the you know she was arrested. Hey. originally can't wait to kill him to tell us data zillow. Indian our Dan's knew each other we'd never met so. Saturday night. Missolonghi. Girl walks out and said Hey dad we tell you they low. Dad's basically set y'all up. Status up but. Years. Taking. The love? You. Bill Sas. You met in Tulsa Oklahoma in. Terms of store. Well, I, have to add this. This might make me sound a little bit crazy but I'm not that crazy. You have Isis Tres Laura. But he did, he kinda treat us like voice. We had really I. Don't know we had talked about friends getting married and things like that. With our dad I just have conversations like that but. Like I said my dad told him happy shirt tells us this court high new him newest dad and all that. In the next day after I met. I called my dad and I said. Hey. I to tell you something don't tell anybody this but I'm gonNA marry that being how did you now? What was it? That's the biggest one. So crazy. But it's like literally love at first sight issues you argument for two years. So Larry Audio. On my goodness but sweep your. It. Literally, it was like that for side. So What what, what do you think? What? What was it that made you say cord is the one. I can't tell you mixture of is just the emotions were disarm wellman's. Weird. I didn't tell you that. I. Ran Really. I'm GONNA marry you. But why nanny played hard to get for two years that intentional? Years not two years. I I do think junior. We probably would have gotten married right away. Really fast, I just this little bit but. It wasn't. It wasn't incident for you to. Know I. Never I guess. We started. texting back and forth. than. Of Israel has more we had in Tomlin. You want to spend more time each other. I. Will Say the first time this came and. When she left I remember week we stopped at wrongs air. Aspirin whatever she left and when Sheila I thought choose the one like she was. Girl, you know. It was another you're at, we actually got married. We were engaged for year and then. On Thirteen, he looked amazing race on the fourteenth or something like that. But, no being mother been a lifelong dream of mine I can remember. I went to college in. Marketing. PLAS might seniors. Me and remember Professor Sara. Asia for cooperation what would it be and I had no answer for we want to be a mom. I remember his jaw dropping glitch. Being being a mother and being Harris. Has Been a dream of ours I. Say since the day we got married. In. Kit. Kit. But as a young until you think instant, you can relate. The instant, you're ready to become a mother. Happened just like. A small your friends you know and it did it in. Again extreme faith I just kept telling myself. You Know God has a plan to state patient. Don't get too worked up. It'll happen once nets happen you know will one year pass to your. Three year. at that way, we're kind of light. and. We did go and get a little bit of medical help in. Helping in their all your everything's perfect. and. Another. Another year to passed in we we're kind of getting. I don't know we were looking at each other like. This. Why has? Your stories about you'll. Play any away with the pregnant again or you know. I know how did you deal with that because I know you're just in the one year that we were waiting and feeling like what if this never happens like it was really one of the hardest most depressing years of my life because the same as you it's like I wanted to mother more than anything. And then there's this thought. Never happens how did you deal with those emotions? I I can't tell you just one day at a time. Honestly. I guess I'm probably not the best doing. The pain and hardship of it. So I'm just trying to distract myself in. At the same time just keep praying. To I feel like. We gave away. Gave Up. WE'RE NOT WE'RE? Not. Just really laid down. I. Knew in my heart to in some way way or another going to be. Adoption or whatnot but right when we were quite where we are getting ready to see. More intense I guess uncle help. We found out we were. Just been. Yeah it is. that. When they finally let go of the like the control or whatever I mean. That's sort of how we were. We had had an early miscarriage. Then I had another miscarriage. My Garneau was like I. Just think you're GONNA have to. Go to the next steps and I was so over in depressed and sad I was like i. am done all this and then that's what we got pregnant to when we weren't even thinking about it. Why is it when you finally let go of that control that it happens you hear that all the time I don't know I, mean I can't help but think that God is really really copied to us saying hey. You know this is this is on my time. This is my plan you know in just to relate to overtake matter what we go through challenges in life of were. Do you feel? Waiting for seven years has made y'all be different parents than you would if you've got pregnant right away. Definitely. Definitely. I see people. Kids when they're a late teens. I'm forty years old ahead. You know my job is being dead in like. Thank God that would waited this long. I don't know how the. Hell this let me go run around like crazy. Kim So It is it is. It is got Zombie. I'm like for whenever she comes but You know we may be more time getting others. To add. I. Just had extreme appreciation every day when I wake up. Her mother. I did. Of Motherhood. Did Not. NAPPING yes. Sarah I. totally relate to I feel that emotion as well and I feel like more because of that I I'm this is clearly how useful to. Get, frustrated with a little things and yesterday somedays I am so tired and I am so happy for bedtime and I just want to have a glass of wine and get in the back by myself but every day. I. Am so thankful that I get to be her mother I don't know if I would have had that same appreciation either and I can't imagine when you're for seven years I had this was one year. So it's just like I do think it's a blessing in the long run it can totally be a blessing. Your mindset in appreciation. For sure for sure the so called little battles of motherhood parenting in stuff. It's like it's so fun I love it I. Love It. When we're challenge, you know it's just pure joy all time good bad or otherwise it's We just feel so blessed where so record never take a day. Of being parents for granted. So what has parenthood taught you guys in how has it shifted your marriage? Another doesn't need question. I it's shifted our. Marriage at all Handed It's its own challenges. You YOU WANNA? Be. The Best Day at the I think it's the maybe more responsibility for. Example. If you look vocal was once you on right now. You know you wanna be the example of. What she needed In a man, like it's a big responsibility in. In today everywhere that you say she knows he takes the Digest. Responsibility. A good day. I. Would say to. Know have to remind myself semir journey and like I said like absolutely in love with this little girl but I'm also love with this man and. I do feel remind myself us the Hudson has to come I had to remind myself that you know as it's hard. We get so wrapped up. In being being a mother than. A wife. So that that's always daily battle. Spin trooper. especially. Like for me that first year of Sonny's life which I feel like now she's one hundred eighteen and all the stuff like the first six months for sure. I was an emotional mess I couldn't even I I just I could not I could not see the forest the trees for for like my old life like it took me a while to get my own bearings in like. View like I could be myself again and that this a little bit of a transition period. Sure. Just coming up with your new normal Still looking for. Maybe never cubs. that it does but you secret or the the big. Races not ended yet so. We're still going I. Know I kind of thought when amazing. albums. And that's a so drew. There was like a moment when the amazing race ended. I was like, why haven't venture like this again in my life and then it's like, Oh yes. Yes. Yes. Parenthood. Totally. Owner to you about your business too because you not only are this incredible Cavero bomb wife all that you have a very thriving business which I have several Britain's sue I. You're going to have to say, say it our. Money or are part of money, and it's incredible like hair shampoo product but also lifestyle it's really. Mentally it's all about the lifestyle too and like getting pain right and like positive thinking and like teamwork and talk to me about how you got involved with that that has like just opened your. The new way. So it was actually about a year before I became pregnant lie here was bred shape. Money here silence juicers since the products in I'd mother four major failure. But anyway I knew these products for different it's. Just. You know what? I'M GONNA use on Swiss people that can benefit from them. I'm just GONNA die band. Have nothing you know. At the time little. Did I know how much this opportunity? So I just Oban and it quickly falls where it was more. So platform from the amazing products. Amazing skin hair amazing while it was a platform for me to To help other women and to show them that they can believe in their selves that can change their life. They can do anything they add do win. It's. Probably relate to us or to me, it's a daily battle here. We're not. We're not kidding all feel like we're not like surf girls so it's just. This big community in culture in that I'm just so grateful as most importantly I never ever had. Pulsa. Crazy. The day gets. Done. I on every hour. In Instill Tower Ob Rancher the away from. US. To me I, feel like as a mother who also wants to have my career going as well. But doesn't WANNA miss out on a child's live I wanna be a great wife. I want to be involved with all that I totally think that this day and age opportunities like this for women to get involved with amazing companies and work from home and be able to build and grow and really use that. The limit for how high you can go with it and you can get on your own time what an opportunity that we live in as women this day and age where we don't we have to sacrifice 'cause I don't WanNa teach sunny that you're going to grow up and get married and not chase a career have a dream like i. want her to know that like you can do it all and. Tiring and it's not easy but you can and I think that's amazing. Great for sure what a great opportunity. Are you here hello? Hello. I. See all. Can you hear us I can hear you. Yes no art. Or here. No. Like. You said, it's like. To be able to have tools that at my side every hour day even win I'm hustling and working. Inspiring. was possibly the end. I. Know I know. She hears a lot of that like hordes said, they're always listening their ears are sponges they buy up so Kind of lead the pack. Were her younger generations that. We don't have to pump that trap a society that we have to go go to work clocking lockouts out centered yesterday care mix somebody else richer. We really were payroll terms dream as big as we want to drain. So I'm. I'm need that opportunity, but I did it's been a fun ride yourself. Crazy enough. Wow. That's amazing. Also earlier when you're talking about the cow cowboy. Code. Sarah you said something about respecting the Land and accord you're talking about the animals tell me ause relationship with animals because I feel like. Sometimes. It's we don't as. Will like in the world I live like I'm not interacting with animals on a daily basis like you are like working with them almost as partnership. Tell me how you guys view animals and how that partnership works. Well I mean I guess. You'd take horses for example, I mean. The only thing that you're gonNA get out of the horses. Wait wait wait for the enemy and this it's gonna a relationship with them they. WanNa work together with you He's the. For Sarah's family they live in our may may raise warranty. We raise You don't moles and here. Well. To even feel like that you're you're feeding the world. Not just not just our walls for for entertainment, you watch on TV and. You know those those after love to do it anyway you're just opened the gate. They realize the challenge in the battle between one hundred, fifty pound rier on them in old if they can move faster seconds that they win and they realize net. I think you know is taken care of the land wail because if you abuse land. It's not gonNA. Give back us in. This range I'd like to be buried under veil three thirty or forty years but you know final treat the land way I'm not going to get next year celeste the next fifty years. So I think you feel like you're you're stewards of the land of. Not Not overgrazing take care of your tablet acre of land always make it better in even when I when I build fiennes at your feel like Hewlett Sunday Tulsa. Husband. Will be working on the same reg. So the the job that I do today is. Generations to come. So. I feel like that's just. So why's to think of it like 'cause sometimes we live in a culture words like get everything you can as fast as you can and don't really value the long run that in the long run it's GonNa. Be got if we don't now the land in town don't work just that way. You've gotTA. Take. Care of it. You know even even this year to a to. Survive next year I mean it's it's that fast of of a turnaround in a abusing land or. Taking care of your cattle because If. You don't get them. They can't back you site your kids out there your family. You Care Forman. They every day in the most challenging base for for them is what you have to be there. You know you talk about the when storms roll in her icestorm snowstorms even in the heat of the summer being too hot so. You know everybody wants to be accountable in Sunday two degrees sinus the rest it's when it's A. Freezing old for her one, hundred, ten degrees for a week that. S, when cowboys uniform Amanda. Will say, Germany though. That's right. What do you? How do you survive those hard times like the drought than the heat waves and all that like what what do you do to making? Pro. Water water shade I think would be most important a you'll in the heat of the summer. You talk about the the winter special where they're from in Iowa is having coverage for those. Gideon. In, you know having enough feed in protein and fat on their bodies to be able to sustain the hold is well so. You know it's it's hundreds of years and several generations that have trying the farmers and ranchers and the catalysts. Welcome take the temperatures. Talking about this team, the breeding of. 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Cyber threat intelligence: Learn to become a cybersecurity tactician

Cyber Work

42:17 min | 4 months ago

Cyber threat intelligence: Learn to become a cybersecurity tactician

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We appreciate each and every one of you coming back each week so enough of that. Let's begin the episode. Welcome to this week's episode of the cyber work with INFOSEC podcast each week I sat down to the different industry, thought leader, and we discussed the latest cybersecurity trends how those trends are affecting the work of Infosec professionals offering tips for those trying to break in or move up the ladder in the cybersecurity industry. Today we're talking about a specific job within the cyber security ecosystem that of threat intelligence expert. This is the job involves both hands on know how, but also a great deal of analytical thinking skills as identified only threats, as they're currently presenting themselves, but a whole host of potential threats on the horizon so meetings you can think of threat intelligence as the tactician of security. You're not just preparing for the battle in front of you, but for the waves of attacks that you might see in the future. Your to talk with us about this today is Charles. De Boeck of IBM's x force, instant response and intelligence services He's had a connected hassle of job. Titles Ed Encompasses Risk Management Risk Analysis and vulnerability assessment, all of which have helped him to get to his current position now, so we're GonNa talk about similar tracks. You could start on right now. And what challenges you should look forward to in the future. Welcome to the program Charles next self ready so based on your job and education background. I'll admit. Admit I I ran sector-linked in a little bit further info, but it looks like security in tech earned the only interest in your life some of the guests you know we've had have been hacking some childhood or the you know. We're walked off their high school campus handcuffs for hacking government mainframes, but you know your background shows interest in mathematics, law, political science and more so how did you find your way to security and threat analysis? And what was the spark that I set you on the path? Church Salon I started off I grew up with computers right. Saint Generation a lot of folks that die grew up with computers and household. For a long time, and when I graduated college I was kind of looking around trying to figure out I want to go, and my interest is always really Bennett Lotto. how you know. How do we get from eight obt to see and so you're gonna see that a bite off my education mathematics much felt logical Russian. I different be same thing with law, but that's more from written sets Outta. We prefer argument A. Political Science I. Maintain is a lot of ways about our actions between two groups, so there's a lot of. Their of of interested logic lock problems games understanding how to how to get from A to B and When I was looking at where I wanna go for me, such security made sense because it's sort of the next step of taking logical problems on that to computers and having this background computing background, using jurors and start seeing relevance above Jitters Arbor Day lives to me. Educate working type security is potential around for require. Okay I like hearing that. Because as you know as I've I tried to sort of repeat in these episodes over and over like you can come to cyber security with a whole host of different types of skill sets are interest. It doesn't you don't just have to have been coding. For decades. You don't have you know, be able to. Do you know assembly language in your sleep, and all this kind of stuff like you can, you can do other you can have other interests and still contribute really strongly to the entire sort enterprise so. You was that he was a police officer. No cyber experiences policemen. Event said he wanted to go to threaten Neligence, and it was passionate about really excited about it, so we started working over the. Best Guys! We had I'm gene after a while. You can train anyone in technical skills or technical training is widely, so you certainly don't act attack, heavy background, and especially for younger generations who have grown up with Diana Mogi stand for long time run-up using computers using. Devices for a long time, just that life experience by itself and a Lotta way on gives you a leg up in steel. Yeah. You're you already know more than you think. You know exactly exactly yeah? So I want to start out today by clarifying the topic of our discussion, specifically threat intelligence so just for. Baseline let's just sort of define what it is. What is threat intelligence and what differentiates it from of related but different activity, maybe threat, monitoring, security, analysis, or incident response like what does the job entail as a career track, and it can I ask you a little bit about the ways that IBM does threat intelligence gathering in monitoring. So the way I am black described. Intelligence is when you think about that. We think about computer security a lot of times. You're looking at the inside the perimeter so I'm an orange. County I'm looking at what do I see you know getting my walls? And what do I see within those walls and how to best protect against going their? Intelligence actually looks outside the walls. So imagine you're scouting cart outside. The walls casio looking around trying to see. Where are the bad guys now? The options are either looking into the woods. Almost make sure that. You can either bill. You can either build up all of your walls. Same time just hit the right spot or you can try and see where they're gonNA come from and build also just right there. That's much more efficient way to undo your security right because I know a bad guys are using a sequel injection all the time and I know I need invest resources in ensuring that my sequel is active, but if they're not doing that, then I can invest those resources somewhere else, so it's a good way to get sense of where we see the bad guys coming from on the outside, so it's a little bit different perspective. You're not looking from the inside out so much. You're looking at the outside and see what they're doing to see. How might try to get? that make sense it doesn't make sense yeah. Can You, can you tell me a little bit about how IBM does? Does you know where where you are right now? Ibm We actually kind of interesting model. We combined their incident response component so instant response intelligence services at IBM, and what's Kinda cool about that is it's a hand in hand process. When weeks onto instance, we can use our threat intelligence to more effective respondents, so if we see instance a Korean on a client's site, we can say okay. We're GONNA respond. What's happening there on site at the time were also GonNa take that information and look at our threat intelligence data and try and figure out as their other stuff. We should be looking for that otherwise might not. A lot of times. It's very easy to get sort about myopic view was happy. Source Say I? Just got sick your this. Fire Right Nice thing about incorporate tells us as we say. Oh, case appears the iron that we see right now, but where else might there be? Fires hidden behind the smoke of this big fire over here? and. So that's what's kind of cool about. IBS model is by combining those two elements were able more effectively responded incidents, and also incidents can help inform our intelligence, so we're able to research more active as well to good symbiotic relationship. Is this sort of hand in hand relationship between the Incident Response Team and the? Threat Intelligence team is that. Is that a common thing or is that a fairly? Unique sort of symbiotic relationship with with with your organization in my experience I think. I think it's going to be more common. I think a lot of intelligence organizations want to get into that sort of area. Because it's so, it's a great great relationship path out. There's a lot of challenges to to sort of combining these two elements but I. don't think it's not everywhere yet. I think it's becoming now. Something Lot. Organizations are look at energy, but thank IBM can the unique benefit the we happens, we start off. Say let's do it this way. By as our incident response, Kelvin Services Gal that gives a little bit of start. Okay I got I sent you the questions in advance, but I got a one one extra question that that someone on my team asked. Do you see small and medium businesses using threat intelligence I mean it seems like the moment like threatened. Hell is kind of the domain of huge enterprises due to the cost of the resources, but you know it seems like there could be a useful. To to say you know, get some sort of like threat weather report, showing maybe secondhand of some of the threats happening to other industries that are like there's. Is there anything like that out there is? Something about yeah, they make it very point down for small businesses. The most effective strategy I see is to the leverage outside provider so generally. The kind of model I've observed. This is just personal observations is that as a larger enterprise might have an internal intelligence team just focuses on intelligence orange, which is great if you can do that and your larger organization that has a large digital footprint and makes sense to do that review, small and medium-sized business. Business can't postlewait for that sort of you know that sort of payroll than it might make more sense to outsource stats or another organization that does all they do. Pellets Brandon. They just give you. The rewarding adds a great way for you to get that sense of what's going on so that you can help director ts one out one thing that I found really helps for she is. If you can't afford to have a threat, intelligence teed even having. Sort of threat. Intelligence person helps quite a bit because a lot. Because sometimes what might happen you get the reports? Everybody assumed that somebody else is taking care of their. Re Them you have one person whose job it as or at least half part of their job is to look at those reports at least one person's doing, and it could be a half time job quarter time job. It doesn't have to full time, but as long as you. That's where designated PSC that helps quite a bit for small medium. To Dan Intelligence, because it's a two way street, it's not just receiving. You also have to actually act on right, so yeah, not only. Do you need someone who's looking at this for some portion of their day? But I imagine there's. Also the importance of having. Some degree of of reporting within the weekly briefings, or whatever like some actual sort of you know because I'm sure it's be easy to say well. We got. You Know Bob Looking at the you know the threats and I'm sure he'll let us know if something's wrong, but you know if you're not like. Reporting on each week. And your stand ups, or whatever I'm sure you know that's also watch out for well concerns well with them with. And this is something that Haddock man where people are looking. At Trenton Benders to consider is you WANNA make sure it's actionable intelligence, because sometimes the M. The profession gets a little bit of a bad rap because people say well three intelligence. Random or stories in interesting, but who cares no. What's what's the point? Good Valuable Intelligence, not just tell you something that's happening out in the wild. Just leave it at because that's not really helpful. I could say well, they're. They're using sequel injection. Okay so. And good intelligence, not only tell you you know what's happening out there, but also what it means for you what you can do, action or follow on after that otherwise it is just sort of campfire stories, which I don't been story, but that's not helpful for me as a business organization. I mean it's kind of like the you know. The way like a boring teacher teaches history versus one that can make a narrative around it where you know like you know there's this thing that happened, but you know if you don't tell the story so that people can understand what could happen to you. It's be happening right now. Whatever then? What's the point exactly exactly so that that's interesting because again. If you're thinking about intelligence, you know, make sure you. You know how to tell a good story and. As? Interesting as critical, really critical buyback context information, because and also to alive. Right as you might be drinking, too I don't see so who wants a really high level thing, or you might be talking to you know network defenders who WanNa know all the technical details. What's going on to be able? Speak both languages pretty effectively you know. So yeah, let's let's talk about that, so let's start with where you are right now. Can you talk sort of walked through your current job? Title Your Strategic Cyberthreat expert. So what is what is this job in at? Are Some of your primary responsibilities? Is Management of threat intelligence team, and how much the actual threat intelligence information gathering in the average day. Suddenly rolls sort of about fifty fifty split between more tactical level, threat, intelligence, research, percent, leading projects, leading initiatives and. Space, so he's the hands on stuff exactly like that person yelling cabinet In the tactical level stuff because to me that makes it so that you keep a good sense of what's happening in the world. You have a good understanding of what time what you're saying, but. I can break the tunnel down so strategic art that just means that I tend to work it up into a higher level of underway by threads, might threat intelligence products Ben Distinction is in my mind. There's sort tactical level where you're working. You're at what are the indicators compromise that are associated with actor activity or you're going out. You're really diving deep to a few actors. That's music much more tactical Elliott. What's happening right? Right now right here right now from Threat Dallas perspective. Right a strategic ex like myself when I tend to do is more broad-based. What trends are we see? You know what we've seen over the last six months a year. How is you know twenty twenty different from twenty nineteen so good example here is if you look at the the IBM, Brent Tells Index. We released those once a year and just really star twenty nine hundred. Twenty nine hundred not too long ago. We said that ransomware was way up. which was interesting? Because the previous year ransomware had been a bit down and so it's kind of we see these. You the immediate strategic statement of ransomware it's higher or lower, but then there's the again the important part is you know? Why does this matter and why? We think this is happy, and so that's what I do. Sort strategic level is I look at cross a wider time street and say what are we seeing? Doctors trending? And how can we use that information to most effectively census? Thanks? It does and it sort of brings up a follow up question so like what what sort of resources research materials like? What is your sort of analytical thought process? I mean let's let's take that specifically re ransomware and we'd seen some reports do. The ransomware is going down and twenty nineteen, but his back up again and twenty twenty so like you see something. Something that doesn't quite make sense like that to your mind. Like what are some of the first steps that you take to sort of breakdown? What what the what the numbers actually mean tricks of the first thing you always gotta do is make sure you got good numbers. Right? See something that doesn't make sense. It's always good to double. Check your day. Look at open source to make sure that matches up a look at our internal data here, at IBM and say okay. What is our data showing us? And then once the date is clarified. Looks like there's a trend there. Yeah, process I started down I started i. just thinking about logic know what are the possible rationales as to? Why could be the case and so we could say? More effective because. We're seeing a higher pay APPS. There were seeing people paying a ton of money for ransomware. ransomware has gotten better. You know the just the technology itself is increasing overall quality or become easier to use. That's another very strong possibility as to why would see ransomware increasing? And then once I, kind of have a couple ideas, I think it might be just sort logically out, and a lot of that comes from its strategic knowledge that most doctors are financially motivated and. And are lazy. But daisy way possible. Yeah, exactly yeah, you WanNa make money easy as possible right, and so there knowing that sort of background and understanding of gaming possibilities then will do go to open source I go to my dark web sources starts trying to find out. Are there indications of any of these options being the case? Do we see people posting on Auras or marketplace's? Hey? My Iran's service is on sale now. My seeing a lot more offerings on marketplaces or I see. A lot of people saying man, this is so easy. Anyone should do it or you tutorials by out of use these sorts of products. You know that's very often the case as well or do I. See when I look at the data. Is there a is there? Are there like collections of activities? So you know stuff happens in March. Bunch of stuff happens in. May might indicate to me that it's a matter of copycat attacks and so. The way, I would approach. It is look at what did stopped. Trying can guess what the possible options might be and then go out and see what the data supports from. Bailable usually Ozora Star web in Charlotte Cheese three. One I look at right. I mean that's straight up scientific method right there, you've you make your your hypothesis and then you tested against the facts and see what happens. At the end of the day threat intelligence is sort of science and art. I think there's only so much to tell you because we don't have perfect data. Collection! You're not to find the fortune cookie that says this is how we did it you. Say This is what I'm doing. To Now I? Right, a dominant number happens and so lacking that Key Element Intelligence Arab. It's sort of subtle is using analytic confidence language? So you know there's there's different, and you can look on Google. There's lots of different ways that you can help statements to make it as accurate as possible you can say. Medium competence that this probably occur. Right s suggest that you now that tells you how competent I am in a statement and tells you that probably means it's more likely than not not almost certain to be the case, and that sort of that sort of detail language kind of technical skill, but once you get really good at it is a great way to be able to make statements based on data while without sacrificing your handling integrity you. Okay so. This is great because you know like I say sort of opens up into my next question here, but you know we were talking about your background a little bit that you have the math background, political science, Law, background, and you know, and all these things obviously contribute strongly in you know it's hard not to see but like what are some specific sort of skills or educational tracks are learning. Learning experiences or projects you did in these other fields that you think sort of directly translate to. You know doing good work as a threat intelligence person like you know if if you have some, you know these kinds of backgrounds and the sound interesting to you. What are you sort of highlighting for someone saying? I want to get into threat intelligence and here's how I I. I can do it. S Very easy question for me whenever anybody ever asks education, my number one I answer. Should, be on the number, one takeaway from anyone listening to this is to check out the National Science Foundation, Scholarship for service program more the NSF SS, which is say it's a it's this. So what I did is I was a graduate student. I was stated through this program. At the time what they did is they pay for the tuition room and board a stipend for you to get a degree in sex security was a two year master's degree in exchange. You have to work for the federal government for two years now. I remember when I was a you know this was. A decade ago now for me adapt ten years ago, two years sound like a really long time towards the federal government, but what ended up happening was a master's degree out the deal and I got great experience the government for five years in exchange for them. Pay Me to do all this. If you have any interest in cybersecurity whether threat intelligence specifically or a variety of other fields. This is a great way to give the educational background. You need plus essentially a foot in the door at the government to get the actual hands on. Experience that you need to really be able to jump into a cybersecurity career. It's really fast I really can't recommend it enough, so that'd be my number one recommendation for on. If you're looking to the right education perception charity just mechanisms for sweet deal. So what we through your average day is as a cyber threat expert. Like what time do you start work you know? Where where does your work take you? In the course of the day you structure a day or you just constantly putting out fires. Are you able to turn off in the evening always on call. Yes. Intelligence I find that it's it's not really an on fire source situation, of course many situations where it is again since we're we work with incident response. Sometimes you might have incident. Come up in Becky's. Yeah, it's all hands on deck. Have to take your kids white way on occasionally are major fires likes like wannacry right, which has such broad impacts such a major event that has all hands on deck, and you pretty much working until things take your yet through the weekend back met as I recall germ Soham yet that occasionally, but that's pretty rare. Usually, it's a pretty pretty good nightside job. I'm wearing prison myself, so I started Some thirty rate done rounds four four thirty, but it's it's not. It's not crazy. Long schedules kind of standard forty hour workweek and a lot of ways, so there's a lot to like I. Think from a work life perspective. And in terms of the work life balance I find that it's nice because you know when it's done is not keeping me up over begins. Usually working on a research project, especially at or abroad, sujit products like I've been doing. Role. It's not really something. We're too worried about it because this is a six month one year trend, you know we're talking about free long timeframe so I don't get weekends. GonNa really change that much right, but hopefully not I am Cova outright. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Usually only. Do so That's kind of how it goes for me. What are some of the sort of common tasks? You're doing every day like you know. Are you talking about clients? Are you sort of reporting to your? You know your board, your C. Suite. Whatever like what? What? What? What do you? What do you do a lot? What what do you have to be ready to do a lot? If you want to go into this trap at right writing is that is the number one things and and personally? I wasn't somebody who grew up saint man. Write papers. Some. Some people love that I I didn't love writing papers. On more people, person but but I do like is right logical. I like writing out arguments, and so if doing a lot of logical righty and dime precise writing, that's something you would come into the something. That could be a good. Fit because that's a little by days when I'm writing up, intelligence reports a lot of its connected dots a also as we talked about little before. Storytelling is a lot of my day where I where I may be grinding out stories to people's explaining. Here's the background. Here's where we are now, and here's what it means that your future might hold that sort of progression in storytelling in written form is loud what I do. A. I also like Sob on occasion and I. Do enjoy doing that quite a bit because it's nice to be able to watch or read. Someone's get questions back in real time. Generally less common, but that's something I. I do do as well. But most of my my work is written nature on otherwise researching researching dot reading the news seeing what's going on, keep track. Okay? So where does where does threat intelligence generally stand on the average company hierarchy chart? You? Who Do you report to you know? Where does where does it slot into an org chart? Especially people who have like a full set of different security staffs. Like where do where do you stand? So usually intelligence reports up to up to the sea so APP for mushrooming stations that I've seen. anyways could be another level between your their initial tall telecasts analyst positions those entry level positions that can be. Can pretty low level. But that said I'd say. Generally getting into three intelligence private industry in my experience requires a little more experience read whereas government can be an entry level position because with. Straighter requested had a lot. Of dumbest before and Grenfell isn't necessarily feel a lot of people jump into as their first field. How Nice government is agencies that all they do is intelligence, so it can be. Because that out. What's to sort of your legal analysts position? WHO's kind of two tracks? You can take you can, either you go. in-depth engaged really deep dive research analysts, who just you know out on the dark web outsource all day every day researching specific threats that you specialize in, or you can kind of leadership route. You're saying okay I want to look at how how? How are we doing our threat intelligence? How effectively I think those are two branch banks generally alter intelligence, my experience server Office for private industry or and government. It gets Kinda is Kinda wack little different, so is threat intelligence a position that's mostly done as part of a company, or they're freelance freelance opportunities in this area. Are there you know, can you? Offer your service especially. If you've done it for a while, can you sort of offer your services to an organization or do people mostly just have an in house threat intelligence unit. A. Both I'd say my experience. There's there's there's a lot of freelance opportunities available. The capture it is rattling sort of it's freelance versus but company. As there's Tony's of all shapes and sizes in intelligence, you've got large organizations that salting intelligence talents to other organizations. You've got smaller companies that provide for intelligence to small medium sized businesses or my APP at unique. Niche, in the intelligence field like it might might be a threat intelligence company, the just dark wet right? That's something that gets out there as well. There's also tell organizations within within companies. So that's the way I think of it as sort of either legal background so to me. It's like the difference between House counsel verse that way for Firm Okay for firm. You work for other companies, but you don't work for yourself. Specifically in house counsel works just specifically for the one. Just about right working in house. The Nice thing is you know if you're doing in house, trying to tell. You can really focus on this one organization. Make sure that you're doing best postle pret- intelligence just for that company, but the downside arguably is that it's not quite as diverse suburb adding kind of a slow week. You might have slow week when you're doing intelligence for a from organization that works with many other organizations. You're kind of constantly bouncing around between different industries, which means you have to understand a lot more industries. It's a little more challenging in some ways, but the bright side is. There's always something which I realized I really enjoyed. A busy said signed. That's why awake enjoy enjoy working. IBM, because we always have things going on. The to be aware of being a global company. There's lot of. A lot of global nonsense well now. If you have a full threat, intelligence staff and you're saying that they're sort of like three or four sort of primary places, you know the dark web, or what have you like to have sort of a specialty in terms of like you know? Jill here is the the dark web person and Bob Talks you know looks at you. Know ransomware situations you. Can you sort of sub specialize within it where you are mostly sort of looking at one thing is everyone kind of looking at everything and synthesizing data, and so forth really depends on the organization. Is Different theories best approach. I'm not sure dinosaur throwing the best wine. The ones most commonly tend to be you can have people who are focused on threat types on the threat, specific actors I usually those sort of geographically aligned. Alternatively you might have seen places that might ask somebody who's like it just do. Darkwa they're just really really good at dark wet, and that would wealthy is. Really Key go-to person. It ruins. Kinda depends on the organization Halley. Want structured if you're kind of getting into this deal. How you WANNA, bestmark yourself, I think those are the two main either say like I, I speak a language, especially speak a language Avin from one of the big one. The countries rights I speak that language I I'm going to learn everything. There is about actors from that area. I'm going to say I'm a market myself as somebody who is a specialist in this region as a great way to market yourself in this area, or alternatively you can say I am just really really good at open source. I'm the only source. Guy Evans. Open source sources, and that gives you want to build out open source skills, actually both. They're both definitely needed skills in different organizations, so they both Oregon clutches okay. So. Tell me what Jimmy Certifications I. You feel like there's any particular certifications that are important for people looking to get into threat intelligence. which valuable certification just from kind writing that executive understand it and sort of learning more about what executive? Sorry I'm thinking I think if you're just starting out in this field, I'm not sure it's as critical as sort of further into the field. The Nice thing about cip as it does provide. Insights into what your audience might be worried about, and that sort insight really helps you make your product more effective for them. But otherwise reputations. I don't have a lot of reputations. I know that security plus a good one. I've heard good things about that. Personally happened I. That isn't studying for it and same dancing. Also if you feel like, you need more technical acumen, network pluses also go. There are many issues out there. I can't. I can't speak to all. Of course. Yeah, no, it makes sense. Yes, I mean. You're basically studying how perimeters work, so it's perfect. Is that by understanding sort of what the executive level Swedish thinking about when they're looking at things, helps you tailor your threat intelligence product to speak their language because. You know if you're not speaking their language, they're not read, or they want it of which are back, yeah? So we you know you gave us some really good good tips for sort of like getting your foot in the door with especially the you know the the organization that you. Worked with but so what are some of the steps along the way to go from a low level threat intelligence? technician to cyberthreat expert like which you know, wh. You know what I remember when. To a security analyst and he was saying you WANNA. Go to security manager. Automate yourself out of your job. You know he was saying like you know. If you create enough sort of automated processes than you sort of like the you know the stuff that you're doing rotely you know is already handled, and then you can sort of handle the next thing, so what is. How do you sort of automate yourself? Quote Unquote out of out of a low level threat intelligence job into into what you do. It's Kinda tough question, but demo my best to answer. Think I think the primary. Will you do it a? Not Answer as best liking Roy gives. Is You have to learn a lot about what's going on? It's wral. You have to I think the the main way you can take that next level is when you re report, it says. Sequel injection ransomware when you start off your side Oh. That's interesting. They're using sequel injection, drop ransomware. But when you start after you've done this, you know a number of times you see were being number of ways. Then you can start asking questions like why they're using you know sequel, injection ransomware Kinda Weird, or why are they dropping ransomware out this month? They're usually incorrect. And so as you develop those as you develop experience and start learning the different ways these happening done historically then you can start seeing the broader picture and picking out the trends that are interested and why they're interesting a lot faster. I think that's what leads to a moron, more effective intelligence expert. Okay. So. What advice would you have? People who are looking to make a curse which into cybersecurity from other careers you've you had other areas of interest and stuff so like from a you know whether you're just picking it up from this episode or even thing about anyway from an interview perspective. What are some things that you can sort of put on your resume or in your cover? Letter? Talk about interview. That would make you your perspective employer. Know that you'd be great for this job. Even if you don't have you know the correct signposts in yours might indicate that. Question. I mean obviously collect the NSF SF. Best thing again say you're looking at security. Check out this program. It's Great Commandments Cybersecurity, but but. Beyond that. If I think to me, e, there's two things that row standout at someone easiest one uses one for someone to start doing. Is that read the news? You have to be really well versed in what's going on oral especially in the NBA threat intelligence world in the security world. Beyond just your basic CNN dot com right Start reading things like leaving computer where you're gonNA. Get really good security. In an interview on talking to someone if they're referencing the latest greatest activity, see any stop there. The re rating of open source articles that indicates to me that somebody has interest in Cybersecurity, and as willing to take the extra step of actually raised about it, and can understand it digested executive fashion, so that's one good way signposts. Hey, I'm interested in Cybersecurity and get. Up The other thing that I've always looked for in reviews is just passion, just somebody who's really passionate and excited about sub security. Ed SORTA tough quality to explain how to make that. Come across, and everybody's GonNa. Show their passion differently, but doing your best to show. This is something that you're passionate about to me. I will ten times out of ten. Take a passionate candidate. That's somebody I can treat anyone. United teach anyone basic technical skills, but you can't train passion. That's something that CEO Harrington you. It's something that excited about that. That's something that I want you to. Now You know. Without going into super granular detail what you know, we keep saying well know we can train you the tech and stuff. If you have the passion, or you have the the background, but like what is the sort of baseline tech that beginning threat intelligence? Person needs to know that you're probably going to train them. And say the. Two main things are going to be basic network, basic number protocols or basic network Understanding about this, it's now you should be able to understand if I go on my computer CNN.com roughly. What's happening from a network perspective? Just, because then network understanding of you now for DNS resolution basic no connection galls. that sort of technical understanding, even if it's you know, medium depth will help you when you're reading. Thanks to understand what's happening. The other key thing from that I I have found health one I know. There's people on both sides of this issue is the the might attack chain not I. Think it's very helpful to understand from a threat intelligence active out because there's. When thinking about how attacks happened. Understanding dip a process here of starting off, com sense that you're moving forward attack, and then what happens after that and allow looming understanding that sort of front to back. Process will help when you're learning. What's going on IBM SLOP? That in so said I'll give a sequel. Injection is the Michele faction. is be exploited within the actual payload is being dropped ransomware. Okay, so I see now how these fit? Fit In to the overall time line so when I'm telling the story I can help understanding kind of categorize workings Galley so I I think that's a good idea. Also has their own journal framework that we use around for threat chain sort of understanding between of events. It's out a little bit die, unique and I like a lot well. It's different from Mitre, but I reference monitors because a lot of people know. Interested. While we have pretty okay for you know. We have lots of minor attack articles on our on our on our blog so if you want to get a foot in the door. Come got resources I didn't. Dot Com and also. IBM's. What was it called threatening? Preparation, framework. Framework. Okay! So, how is the threat? Intelligence landscape changed in practice since you began You know you've been doing it for a while. And where do you see it going in the years to come like has has sort of methodology changed. Has What what are? What are we doing differently these days? Great Question. So I'd say the waitress intelligence is done has changed a little bit and that there's a lot more people doing it, and that sort of time about before in terms of freelance. We'll see if you on twitter. There's a lot of folks on twitter. Postie, intelligence bearing wally. There's some great the order doing some really good style also people on there who are taking their best guesses putting up. So one of the big risks daddy run into is. Is People out there? Say Oh, I saw on. Twitter is a true. Another thing that I've noticed changed when a bit is We're seeing a lot more. When I started out, crowd strike was new right known hurt along their brand new organization. It's just getting started now. Across strike is one of that is a big big player in the market welcome. I'm seeing a lot more big players just do read intelligence or do threat. One their primary missions and I think that's great. I think it's great. There's a lot of folks out there doing intelligence, because it makes all of our all of our organizations better right. Down by having more competition out. There were all forced into doing hard work. Great, but down one thing that's kind of come out of that as well as we found new ways to gather new ways to understand what's happening. Sort of expanded perspective because we, we've been doing this for a few more years weekend. Now we as broader intelligence community, can start drying conclusions that from us, but my brother set I mean when I started off in this two thousand eleven. The idea of a lot of these tax were still relatively new. Stocks now was still fresh in your mind, right? That was really the only distracting attack you see. Now when you're looking at twenty twenty, we've seen a whole handful of destructive our tax writing and now now will put paper all about destructive now because we see so many of these attacks whereas twenty seven when I started, we didn't have that much data wasn't that much? It's not necessarily things were happening way. Just have that much access to it and really the only major threat Intel groups tentatively government now seeing private industry really into it more, which I think is great, and there's a lot of opportunities there for people looking to get into the field, but also audrey opportunities I sort of. Collective framework intelligence it. Was Pretty Cool. I'm guessing I know the answer this because it sounds like it's such A. Sort of personal research based thing, but apart from the ways that all our work lives change right now has the. Practice of threat intelligence change it all with the the current pandemic. The practice of it hasn't for me at least so realistically. dren television, a lot of ways to pretty decentralized. Feel! The. Need for people to be in office for me. That hasn't made a major change I think. It's probably the case for a number of organizations. I think there's been some some changes in terms of. Intelligence but in terms of the wave, actually practice thankfully, Democrat relatively minimal nights experience advice. So. What are some of the cyber threats? You're currently that are currently looming largest on the horizon in your experience that you and IBM are engaging with the most frequently. That's always a risk questions. Because the minute you say, MISS ANYTHING CHANGES AND I. Were they see that you see them. Right, let's say I. Think is kind of looming large my mind. Is that. I think that organizations are moving to cloud environments more more, and and realistically and actors get they see the organizations are movies, huge amounts of data into cloud environments and that there's potential gaps are a risks. When you're kind of looking you, that could be present tense. And so they're trying to take advantage of those road can and find out on those gaps at there, and it's a good opportunity for your, because it means that hike in contentiously cause more harm than I could buy point and don't have to worry about much latter movement. There's a lot of benefit there. To me where I see things, going is look at. How can we best security cloud environments? And what are the security considerations when we're looking at? How we make sure that we're. Done I'm sure you know in IBM's estimated. By vesey CLOUDS CURIE! Something that were uniquely interested in from. Ryan perspectives and including run CELTS, understanding how threat actors trying to break into that. Okay this has been a great talk. I just wanted to thank you for your time and insight here now if people want to know more about Charles toback or your doings at IBM where can they go online? And if I'm a profile on leap day, otherwise security intelligence dot com, which is IBM's ask site for for nation as my a profile on there, and they can never work done, I'd say. Okay. You've any vinyl tips for potential threat intelligence. People It's a great field. I enjoyed as a great combination of of the strategic understanding of how things work in strategic understanding out, vowed geopolitics and computing and governments and networking, and taking all of that information, and then somehow crashing into a story that somebody can understand that dumb handle knowledge so I think of great opportunity for folks to get into as sort of feel which is fine, but I had I think it's great. Yeah, thank you very much. Charles back. Thanks for your insights. This has been so much fun and I think a lot of people who are listening are probably doing some quick research right now to look into their new career, so thank you. Exotic. Appreciate the time and thank you for listening and watching today. If you enjoyed today's video, you can find many more on our youtube page. Just go to YouTube dot, com and type in cyber work with Infosec to check out our collection. Auriol's interviews and past webinars. You'd rather have us in your ears. During your workday. All videos are also available as audio podcasts just search cyber work with INFOSEC and your podcast catcher of choice, and if you wouldn't mind five star, rating and And Review and whatever you listen, it always does help us to get to new listeners so for a free month of the INFOSEC skills platform just go to INFOSEC INSTITUTE DOT COM slash skills. 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Nicholas Pine's Sixteen Candles

Teen Creeps

1:29:33 hr | 1 year ago

Nicholas Pine's Sixteen Candles

"And. I couldn't help. But wonder is it okay to date, someone who bribes bird scooter? I couldn't help but wonder how long you have to wait to tell your fiance. You hate his twin. I couldn't help. But wonder what if your boyfriend only has one ball but three Peniston I couldn't help but wonder is sex in the city. The greatest TV show our lifetime shoot, we start up podcast about sex in the city. Join us Jamie Lee, and bro, sir. No on our brand new podcast couldn't help, but wonder where we analyze every episode of sex in the city from the beginning using HBO's iconic series, as a jumping off point to over share about our own wildlife's. Can you couldn't help but wonder produced by the forever dog podcast network and is available on apple podcasts? Spotify Stitcher Google play or your favorite podcast. Subscribe for new episodes, every Tuesday starting may fourteenth. Stick around for a special clip from couldn't help. But wonder at the end of this podcast you there. Your sleet sixteen and your mind. This week on the potty nNcholas pines sixteen. Welcome to teen. Creeps the podcast that discusses, why Pulp Fiction and one of your host Lindsay Kate. I I'm one of your hosts Kelly Nugent, and it is time for the book. No one was clamoring for. One of the installments of terror academy question, Mark. I sixteen candles never heard kademi ever, also the school was in no way like a an academy. It's not like fear street where like bad things happen on fear street. It just happened to take place at a high school. Yeah. And apparently, it was like the third of a series. It didn't feel. No belonged to an era. No. It made nNcholas pine, Nicole his pine also the copyright belong to somebody else entirely. So that's a pen name. Interesting, interesting. So we already told each other, what we think. But Kelly, would you think of the book snooze it is bad boy in bed? So boring and bad. Yeah. It's what most of the book is guy when win. I'm fat live on the wrong side of the tracks for forever than her a hooray. I'm skinny and hot and everybody wants me. Oh my aunt's trying to kill me. And. Yup. Yup. It was so boring. So boring nothing like nothing happens. Yeah. A few threatening cranks. Okay. So I was telling you before that this book was so boring. I don't really remember what happened. Uh-huh. So we're going to have to kind of struggle through this same for Kelly. Let me her copy, and then I left it at my house whips, so we're gonna have to we're gonna we'll, we'll do it. I'm looking charge through or a good reads blurb. It is. You is. It's so dumb. It's a very dumb book, it sucks. The cover is awesome. Somebody stabbing a birthday cake this as happy birthday Kelly. Yeah. And you'd think that maybe there'd be something exciting about her turning. Ecksteen. It really isn't though. No. Except that she is spent three. Interesting. Do you wanna share what you just did Kelly? What my never did. I'll never tell my microphone was like weird and smell weird a little weird. So the new cat. No, I don't know what it is. Now. Here's what I did. You were going to be like, what the fuck is do. Okay. Sprayed something on the microphone. It is. No, it's a mint enzyme spray that you're supposed to spray in cat melts. I get it. I two deodorizers. Yeah. But I was like, well, it's probably just gross for so many people like talking on it for so long all spray it. And here we are. I want to try it now. Dry here. Snow mine refreshing just Mindy, slightly Vinci. It's almost nothing here. We should do this every week with, like a different aromatherapy. Yeah. As we can see how it changes. I actually have another one that maybe we should try next time. It's called headache relief, and it has fennel seed oil, Rosemary, mint and lemon, and it smells so good. Sure. Should try all blended up. We'll try next time. So that's our adventures of essential oil. Remember when I used to spray, my nasal spray every episode because I did that for, we had a good up the first sweet Valley High episode. We did with Ryan. It was evil twin. Yeah. And I needed my nasal spray, so like prime the pump out in and we decided that that was what made it such a good. Yeah. I brought good energy because we all kinda like woo, but it expired sway. We can't use it to get new nasal spray. In the meantime, we'll have to make do with cat mouth spring. Different. Well, you can use it for dogs to its and dog mouth, spray. What about us, I guess it could be for humans, let's spray it in our mouths before. According audio and see how our react, I feel like I we will start salivating. Oh. Like, really bad. We I didn't choose my dry mouth, gums dot here. Well, you got some cats brave. You want some cats Bray, sprayed in your mouth funny ones curious, I looked up ways to reduce sticky. Mouth sounds for the podcast. And one of the things I saw was to chew gum for dry mouth. And so she's been chomping on the scum. Real quick. Right before it doesn't help. I think it does. Yeah. Do you bring it to the studio downtown? I have something my person. I'm in my car. Wow. I feel like this is making me where it now. Oh, because it's so many, I don't know. Okay. I wonder if we're being my head, yet it could be my head. I doubt it if it's some sort of enzyme. Yeah, it's just an insurance thing, and actually if it's safe to be ingested than fine, especially for a cat where like they can't handle, and they're small any toxic city at all. It's. I suppose I could have an allergic reaction to it. But I'll be fine, regardless. Okay. So let's try and figure. Okay. This book. Oh, I got the good row goody 'cause I was going to we're going to have to Stargell had barely says anything. But here's the back of the book, see it's such a liar about the school there. Oh, yeah already. Yep. Already. To get you another little hat for your microphone. Yes. The hat. No, no, no. I'm okay because the little hat you have on it. Now has. Right. You're okay. You're okay. We'll see if I need use mine, Hayler. No big. Okay. And then if you want, we can always change it. Okay. Welcome to central academy. It's like any other high school on the outside, but inside fear stalks, the halls not not really know, Kelly central academies, biggest wallflower has changed becoming one of central's prettiest, and most popular students. She's swamped with calls from all the hot looking guys. Hot looking guys, but her attraction proves fatal when her dates wind up dead. Yeah, I guess they do, right? Okay. So it's accurate. It's all accurate except for the fear stocks. That's hall's has nothing to do with the school. Nothing seems creepy about the school whatsoever. Oh, yeah. Nothing's going on. It's not even like, wow. People always dying here. Nobody says anything. Everyone sucks in this book. Yeah. Except for Rachel her. Best friend. Yeah. Yeah. Brad's good who's bad the boyfriend. Oh, he's fine. Bread's. Good. He likes a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know, who was the biggest villain, Jeremy? Is. He the ugly chess club or whatever the Marshall, the nice guy or nice Geyer. Yes. Fuck. Yeah. He was going to be the guy. I did too. And regardless, he is a bad guy. He's bad was Marshall, and it wasn't chess club computer club pewter club. This was in ninety three so leave Kelly is. At first, I thought that this book was going to be like a commentary on, like body shaming. No, it was not. You really we're giving it, here's a thing I only thought that up until when she's thinking about how she doesn't wear trendy clothes. Because in her words like fat, girls aren't allowed to care about fashion. Yeah. And I was like, oh, maybe. And then the rest of the book is like, no, it is only good to be skinny and pretty and. And also, if you're like if you just try hard enough, you'll lose weight and be pretty too. It was. So it's like what I was thinking about it is Kelly's, inner monologue. Book Kelly's inner monologue is so self hating. Yeah. Which is a fact. We real experience, people have just constantly every she does, she does get bullied by lies, the most popular girl, and she athlete by Jeremy lies boyfriend who as really disgusting. I hate him. He's terrible. I'm glad the book never let him off the hook. Yeah. It never did it was never like she should've just dated him. He has never like red herring that then got his redemption. Yeah, he's like, on redemption, but she spends the whole first part of the book going. Well, what should I expect nothing good ever happens to fat girls from I can't remember? I was gonna say goes but I could think was. I know you bows docks, which is like the bad part of town. Yeah. And that was just over and over bubble blah, fat girls, from Pitney, Bowes came expect everything. Expect anything back girls from Pitney Bowes with no money can't. I said, Pitney Bowes can anything. I'm just going to say that hookah. Yeah. That goes from the Kennedy just over and over. And it's like it's one thing that, yes, girls do think that about themselves. But the reason they think that is because of the. I now, so the like, yes, it's real. But this, it's this books fault because then once she like runs every day for three months and stops eating fast food, just like all, like Turkey weep bread salads, which is good. These are all good things, but it's like the second she does that then she's like Purdy and worthy of love. Yeah. Can sucked? We'll and like the other thing that kind of bug me was that, like you can't I a right? You can have a character that is like, really down on themselves and whatever. And if her arc was to then like be comfortable in her own skin, rather than in order to be comfortable in your own skin. You must work out every day for this summer and then get results and then be the prettiest girl. School, and then you can feel okay by yourself the app, which like I didn't like that. Did it was strange? Because in the beginning, it did sort of feel like the author thought that Kelly's life wasn't fair. Right. It thought the author thought the treatment shoes getting wasn't. Okay. And it sort of didn't seem like it was really judging her weight. It was more like Kelly was judging her way. She got pretty. Yeah. And then the book was like, well, clearly this is the correct way to be. Yeah. And also like it it wasn't like simple. It isn't that simple. And also, it kind of is like you can only be okay with yourself. If you're in fact, the prettiest girl, school NIA, that part was kinda messed, and then also like. I don't know there could be thing to the what being poor. Yeah. She's a poor will. And also the other thing too. Right. Is like I it's like you said it seems like it's like oh, it's not fair. How people are treating her. Yeah. Which it isn't ripe. But then it ends up being. It's not fair that her aunt made her that way. Yes. And that's just how people treat fat people. Yeah. Kind of thing. Yeah. Which is like it was this combination of. Yeah, it was a super shitty message because the what are so Kelly's parents, there really isn't much plot to get to. So whatever Kelly's parents were killed mysteriously, maybe in a car accident when she was eight and so ever since then she's been living with her aunt Doris who's like cold and a drug all the time and drunk and. Just keeps the worst food in the house, and it turns out that she wasn't broke that Kelly's parents are actually left Kelly, a ton of money on Doris was allowed to live on the interest accrued by that money. And so she was pretending that she was working, but actually she was volunteer. Got a job, if you're still working hours. Yeah. That was weird. And, and so it turns out that she was purposely keeping Lu, quote unquote, keeping Kelly fat and poor so that she no one would want her because go ahead will because she if she was thin, she would look like her dead. Mom her sister, who is yeah. The aunt sister and the aunt surprise surprise killed the parents, she's crazy was jealous of her sister, because she thought for some unknown reason that Kelly's dad, like maybe had a thing for her when, like truly he did not. Yes. He didn't even he didn't even know. Yeah. Aunt Doris was like he was the mind. I did your mom ever tell you that. And Kelly says something like no he wasn't. She brought him home as her boyfriend. You never knew him before they were an item and she's like, well, he would have been. She just keeps ranting. And then she keeps saying to Kelly, and I thought this was some fun crazy. Character work of. She's like now, here going to steal all my boyfriends and. Yes. And Kelly's like what are you to hogging about what friends, she's like no way? Friends. I have boyfriends at bars. I go to and she's like, okay, I know she's like, I'm a teenager. I am not at those bars. I don't know. We're gonna steal them. You're gonna steal them. You're going to see them. So she like turns Charlotte nuts. She's like totally nuts. And then there's like a showdown. Lighthouse lighthouse and how do they defeat? Her Heli will Doris FOX Kelly. Yeah. Right. Breaks are hand dislo. Yes shoulder like hobbled her knee. And the way that Kelly, finally defeats her is she. Trick? So, yeah. Doors into thinking she is like in this dark space. That's actually just over the stairs. Yeah. And so doors swings together doesn't realize that she was like precariously on the edge of the steps, and she plummets. Yeah. And it's very store, dark and stormy night. The visibility is poor. Yeah. That's right. We'll scene was cool thousand was going. It was high stakes. Yeah. All this crazy and good. Crazy racial was like up there. Right. Rachel racial had been taken out by doors. Right. Like so she was also in Taylor. Right. So she saves Rachel and herself, which is cool. Yeah. A guide never stopped in. Yeah. And the guy will Jeremy Doris kills. So there's this character Jeremy who before Kelly's transformation asks her to get pizza with him at the mall and to Kelly's credit. She was like what the fuck is your end game. Rachel's idiots not real yet. Rachel's like go with him. Are you crazy and Kelly? He's like, why, why would he suddenly want to go out with me? He's dating by the most popular girl in school. I don't know go where it. And she goes shrill doesn't want to an horn. Writes her a bunch of pizza. I hated she. She doesn't want the pizza because she's so like stressed out about what his motives are. And he is like I would have thought a bigger like you could really put them away. Yeah. I thought you could put away at least four slice, Z, and she's like, what? And he's like sorry. Never mind. And she's like, okay is this day, like I don't think so. And then he's like, hey so my grades like really not doing great. But you're like a whiz with computers. Can you just go into the computers and change my grade? And she's like, no, dude. So she gets up and leaves then lies. It shows up choose like waiting in the wings. Yeah, I knew you wouldn't do it. I really did. So I really liked how Kelly just torrential Jeremy in EAC. Oh, yeah. She's like at the fuck outta here. Dry lash. Throws the coke and house as LIZA come. She's like I knew knew wouldn't do it. You're getting get it now. And pushes her into some table. Pushes her in Kelly like falls over the tables, and like gonna get it like all pissed off. And then, so Jeremy so armee sucks sex. And both of them decide they are like gonna get revenge on her. They hate her. No. Who's the guy who's the swimmer that she starts to have a thing with? Brad, Brad come into the picture until until she's quote, hot something. I do like is that he was always nice to her. Yeah. He was always nice to everyone. So it wasn't like he was one of her tormentors. No. And she and she does say she's like, I'm not about to go out with any of these fucking clowns, who would not have given me the time of day before. So that's good. So you're wondering what propels Kelly to decide to start working out every day. Interesting. You ask she gets a summer job. The duties of which are unclear. Computers computers. She's supposed to read creation assistant who manages their filing. That's right. She really saves the school lot of money because she's really more alley reading across reverence about computers, well, their equipment and things. So then the coach like puts her under her takes her in under her wing the track coach. She's like, hey, like one day unless you run two miles for the first time. Well, that's the last day. Yeah, this allows day. Crazy is she's like, hey you got this job cool. So I'm going to put you on a fucking diet and exercise regiment. Did she ask for this because they just cut to three months later? So what is unclear as to whether the coach was, like this is a part of the job requirement? Well after lunch we all go running normal, and you have you have grilled chicken and broccoli, and that's it. Yep. And Brown rice. Yep. Every day all day. She's on the Terminator two diet. Yes. Sarah, Connor diet. Yeah. And her aunt doors hates it keeps bringing fast food home. And again, it's like yes that is an irresponsible parenting to just be bringing bad food for your kid to eat all the time. Yeah. Still a bad message this whole book has a bad message even while aspects of it. I know are either truthful, or like insightful. I guess in cycles, too strong a word, but something akin to that. We're like, yeah. Doors should've meeting or crap. She has a responsibility to feed the kid better. Yeah. And she is, she's also weaponized the fast food to keep her has to keep her. Don't be. Yeah. And she's also referred to as dumpy many times, so many times so many times that wasn't me. Yeah. No, that's the book. Yeah. Also, like an there are things about this, and I'm like, yeah. Some of the sufferings true, but like to all together this is. A bad message of in a book, because it's the yeah, we should all every single one of us skinny people included because skinny, people aren't always healthy. No. You should be vascular health. Yes, you should be working out a lot. You should be eating right? Yeah. All these things are true. You shouldn't do this of like to be popular. Right. That's about message if that is how you feel understandable. Because society is conditioned us this way. But it's like this that make it feel that way that you have that you'll never be good enough. Unless do thing it's not about being good enough. It's about being healthy. Yeah. Or it's like also. And I know that society makes like society. Says in general, these types of body types are attractive, and these are not, and that sucks. But I think now like we're becoming a little body positive, and that's great, and you should always, you know, exercise in eat to the body that you want. And if you're okay with how you are. And that's cool. And in general, is good for you to engage in exercise frequently. But this book does make it be like, but if you're not skinny, and the most popular pretty girl at school like you're just terrible. Yeah. So if like do these things because then, you'll be pretty exact worthwhile to other people. Yeah. So that's where this book sucks. It's good exercise. Great good message there. So it's the shittiest attitude also associated and also, that's all the book is yes. That's all it is nothing happens now. Like, okay so anti kills Jeremy. Because she thinks he's Kelly's and then doors cuts the brakes on Brad's car. Yes. She thinks that he's a boyfriend. She happens to be correct on that end. Nuts all it happens. Yeah. And those incidents are so small, they're so tiny. And they're right at the end of the book. Everything else is just her obsessing about her looks it. Yeah, horrible. Yeah. Yeah. I it is. It's a bad book. It's not very good. It's boring boring. All you don't wanna live in this person's head. No, because it's too boring. I already live in this person. Ahead. 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And so, I was like, starting to gain some weight and. I just I don't know. I just decided I wanted to start working out and also helps a lot with my anxiety, whatever, and I remember every time I like, oh, I'm going to go to the gym, or whatever this person would be like, oh, you're so good. You always work out Kelly, you're so obsessed with working out, and I remember thinking, like. Okay. I mean, I'm not obsessed with working ally. Just it makes me feel better. But I tell everybody should. Yeah. I don't know. I don't make well clearly she just she was mad that she wants to do it. Yeah, she yeah. She just wanted to be that person to. Yeah. It's the same with, like drinkers nondrinkers VAR. And everybody's like, come on. Yes. Cut loose have a little fun. Have a drink. Yeah. Drinking with us. And so it's like come on have some Kate. Yeah. Aren't you having some cake? What do you have to go to the gym every day? Oh, you're so healthy. Yeah. So whatever somebody's doing something perceived as like functional. Yeah. It's like oh, you think you're better than me or like, yeah, gross. And here's the thing. I don't judge people that don't work out. That's like my like I get that there are people that are shady, workout people that are. Like, like, I remember seeing this tweet of this guy that was like a trainer and he's like, you know, see some people come in and they get like no progress because they're not doing any of the exercises, right? And it's like all right, dude, because people like you. That's why people don't go to the gym. Yeah. Dick. Yeah. I get that. I get that there are people out there like that. So I get the, the instincts to go on the defensive and be like, no, I'm gonna label what you're doing obsessive as opposed to, I think you're gonna call me lazy. So I don't want you to do that. And I'm like, dude. I don't give a shit what you fucking do. I just gonna live my life. How I like to live it. And so in that moment and probably partially because the characters name is Kelly when the an is like, oh, so you're eating healthy now. Like that's like your this Chinese chicken is good enough for you. Yes. Like I've spent my hard-earned money. Yeah. You this food. Now you don't even wanna eat it. Yeah. And that we discovered that it isn't her money and plenty of money. And that she's doing it on purpose, which is. Yeah funny. Yeah. But not in this book. No, no. Exactly. So I don't know. Like I didn't like the weird fat, shaming in this book, but also the like the weaponising of the fast food was so funny funny. It was so Nigeria, I've never heard of before. Well, let's not yet that and not is a real thing like that was an another book. We read a theater was in a book. You're in. Yeah, it was low dunk, right? Why the friend your your. Yeah. It was in daughters of eve, her mom is like, kind of a feeder, she doesn't want her to talk to her dad, because they're divorced. And she is like, remember, remember handsome, guy keeps keeps her as a secret girlfriend. Then. Brother attacks. Her would show up to take her to the dance. Yes. Oh, god. I forgot about that book. Yeah. Those daughters Vive, right? Yeah. Because then they'll wanna get revenge. Yep. For her sake. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Her mom was kind of a feeder. So it does exist exist will end like the sexual thing of being feeders guys, like we'll feed their girlfriends like wanna, like want to see them gain weight really. I always thought of it as more of a mom parent thing. Munchhausen's tapie. Yeah. A way to keep them close. Yes. Way to clip their wings, which is also shitty. Yes, it is. So that does happen. It does happen. But the way it's phrased of his book, it is funny, also because just because when she does have remote down. It's so campy. Yeah. Like which is a God. I wish the rest of the book had been like that is it was boring action, packed and campy. Yeah. But not until the last five pages also nothing happened. Nothing for like, I, I remember thinking, oh my God. I'm almost done with this book, and there hasn't been one scary thing that's happened. It's just her being. Quote, twenty five pounds, overweight, and then, like dealing with bullies. And then doing that weird like fat camp slash summer job losing way. And then everyone thinks she's hot and earn percent of the book, right? She earns dress. Well, and she hides like fucking hates. And not just overweight, but, like not skinny poor people. Yeah. Hates them, because it also doesn't show Rachel any love knows Rachel's, too skinny. Yeah. She's she's rail, thin. Yep. And she's poor so you have to be exactly right. You have to be Goldilocks body. Well, remember she size six, which is sweet Valley High perfect size. That's the size. She gets she's thin. I think a size six then would be a size four now. Yeah, because I'm like us is six to eight. Yeah. It just made me think of sweet valley. Oh, that's the size? Yeah. That just made me think of that, or you're the perfect body size Lindsey. I carry weight in bad places. It's not that I'm overweight. It's that where in how I'm carrying it is bad. I got middle. And in the harms. So it's like. 'cause I, I did the like BMI and I'm within a healthy range, but my waist circumference is not in a healthy man. I just I notice like I remember taking this like nutritionist test about, like where you gain weight first. And then that means like, what foods you should avoid or something, I think it might also be bullshit. It's fine foods to avoid probably. Yeah. Or like 'cause, you know, certain body types can have more car. It's like a macro, which actually I think might be real. But so for me, it's like my upper arms, my stomach, my like upper upper thighs, and then my face are where I see it. I like your body. Well, it's like it's like everything around my torso, basically, in my face. I think that's probably I know I feel like a lot of people are like, oh. Oh, it'll go straight to my thighs or it'll go straight to, oh, my ass or something. True. I think I gave him moral over. But my, my issues, I'm carrying wait around my mid section, which is like supposedly stress fat. Is a lot of weight around your middle. It's dress. Often linked to stress interesting. I could see that actually I notice every single fluctuation with my body. Some sure you do too, for your own, like everyone. This growing up. Yeah. I know. No, we're obsessing about it. I know which I haven't all down to like a science for my body. I'm like, oh my God as deal. But yeah, I'll notice some days that my like mid section feels like a lot bigger or smaller not days. But like weeks or whatever I wonder if it's coinciding with stress. I don't think it happens that quickly, well, then I'm just never -taining water or something. Yeah. That's or something. Like. No. I think it's like a chronic thing if you carry it there, it's, it's the thing like if you work out new workout near dieting dieting, but you just can't seem to lose weight around section. It's linked to stress interesting. Yeah. Sort, ever interesting. Why you a great for the record Inc. You it's very nice. It's hiding hiding hides. Well. Title working on it. I mean more as part of my trying to get off my meds. Yeah. Experiment. But yeah, because it's all to do stress stress. Yeah. Stress stress bleeds or neuro transmitters dry throw them off balance. There's your hormones off balance for sure. I've noticed exer- way all new sleep sleep. God your sleep. I have not been sleeping. Well, I notice on days that I do a really long run, and I go to sleep, I sleep like a log in the next I feel like amazing. Yep. Sizes goods, you just flush out all that like shit. That's like bottled up in your brain. If you or anyone listening is curious, a really interesting book on all of this as called spark. I forget John Radi. R. A. T. E Y believe. It's really interesting. He wrote another book called the wild, which is about like all around kind of like paleo exercise. Get sparked by John Jay Radi. It is sparked the revolutionary new science of exercise in the brain. I bought it years and years ago, and I thought it was interesting. And now I'm just rereading it because I've been doing all this research on what exactly it is about bipolar disorder that my meds effect interesting, and it's all cortisol, glutamate looming Gabba and progesterone. An exercise is probably the thing that can affect those things, the most really man, I think dia would be second. Yeah. And then sleep and stress management, stress management and diet, probably equally. Yeah important, yeah. Since the way it got out a walk is probably stress. I have to think that there's a way to attack this naturally because if other people's neuro, transmitters and hormones are balanced. It's not like I have epilepsy. Right. He's gotta be a way to balance this. We'll and maybe like because you said, the stress stress management helps with, with what everything everything, right? All of it because I was her strides helps with stress remains. And it's also helping so many things -actly. Yeah. Dude, I and it also is like meditative sometimes like to, to work out. I, I haven't been. Working out so much this week and I have been noticing difference, but also crazy. Running around to do it. But the thing that I tell my and I know that this is like fitness podcast. I'm not fucking book because of this fucking buzz book sucks. This book sucks, hard sucks. It sucks. Like, no wonder the shit is in our heads. I know again exercise the keyed everything, everybody should be exercising that is beside the fucking point. This book got the books. All of these books are like this mall that we read made us the way that we are. I and I think that should write the focus of exercise should be immense. You feel good. Yeah. And you should yell, and yes, and about how not appearance. Yes, exercising. You should be pushing yourself, not trying to meet some gold at everybody's trying to me, you know what I mean? Yeah, it should be about your own goals, and your own, like whatever your goals are is it just I wanna feel. You know, I wanna sleep better or is too. I wanna be fucking yoked. There are people that want to be yoked us great. Sure. They should be. That's cool. I think there should be I think it should just be enough for people to just kind of get moving to their abilities and health, I guess, general hall, it should be it's like dropping weight is not the key to happiness right exercise. At least scientifically is the key to happiness and the weight thing I think is more of a just like sometimes byproduct of workout because sometimes when you work out, you gain weight. True. I my will reach a certain threshold where I'll start gaining weight from exercise, especially if I'm doing weight training, not much I'm doing cardio, but yeah, that'll be like, oh, again, weight, but I feel better, and I don't care. I don't wear myself hardy. Oh, is the key. According to this book, I mean to all the things that I'm talking. Yeah. I mean, I'm doing I'm trying to destroy streaks training as well, because I would also like to be strong. Yeah. And tighten it up, certainly part part of it for me, as I would like to like the way I look more like the way you look like you. Should be working out at menswear. Should come out with fitness plant? Yeah. It's not it's just I don't want to be like, like folding over my pants. It's been Lee that so I'm not I'm not thinking of it in terms of weight number. Yeah, I would just like to feel tights and, and healthy. But the, the heart rate seems to be the key, according to this book is. If you can work out. Eighty to eighty five percent of your max heart rate for half an hour specifically for depression. It says to multiply your wait times, eight and then divide that number by how many calories, you burn going like hard hard hard for half an hour. And then that's how many times a week you have to work out. It was like you need to be burning, eight times your weight in calories to get like significant depression anxiety benefits. Interesting. Mine is eleven. Twenty. I weigh one forty one forty zero. Yeah. I should be burning one thousand one hundred twenty calories a week by going hard on the elliptical for half an hour. Each time interesting. So when I'm also doing Wade lay stuff outside of that. Yeah. But like that max, heart rate should be what gets me to that eleven twenty. Yeah. Warning to this. Yeah. I, I have this in called run keeper. If any of you guys are interested in running. It's really good up. I really really like it tracks, like how far you're going out to tude all like changes in all all that stuff, and it calculates. And also, what I like is that it tracks where I am in case anything happens. It's like real time tracking where I am. And you can see other people's runs and find some cool like different routes to try. I really like it and it for me if I run four miles I usually burn like four fifty nine calories in one day to run. So if I do I usually do four miles every time I run, and I'm pretty it depends like depends on the amount of traffic stops that I have to stop at. I'm usually running around for, like I'm usually out of my house for like fifty minutes, depending or in my catch, like a bunch of or if I go if I drive out to Griffith park and I run on the trails wash water because I don't ever have to stop for lights. I'm doing like I can do like three hundred calories on the elliptical for half an hour. With average, heart rate of one fifty six. So I don't track my heart rate, because I'm scared to because because my heart's always fast, just freaks me out all the time, like I just don't like to think about the heart rate, thing is important, according. Yeah. This book, so that's why. Yeah, I just can't be asking. My sinus card is like it's just always fast. So I'm like, scared to track it because I'm afraid like if I do it's gonna be like your dying and I don't want to hear that I know I'm not. They don't wanna hear that, but it's weird because when I work out, it doesn't go that much faster like it is not like because my resting hurries high it goes, like even way faster. But I I'm scared to well, I don't think everybody needs to be tracking. They're carried if that's just not the put it is. I could see that being a really helpful metric, though. Yes. That always hurry is a huge metric for, for working out. But. Yeah, right. Like I feel like the goals for working out should be, you know, individualized, basically. And here's what I think it is acceptance you shouldn't be doing anything purely to gain acceptance there's. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's true. Because if you're doing it, but that's so yeah. Like it's like it's so hard to put it on the individuals because our society suck so much about that kind of stuff. Yeah, you shouldn't be doing acceptance. It's, it's sort of like because it's a struggle for every person, totally. And so there's no no shame. If that's what you're going through because it certainly would go through. Oh, god. Oh, yeah. Like message of the book went the message of the book the message of the book is, like do this in you'll be accepted by very bad, so grow that toxic in my brain all the time, like I'll be like for me. I'll be like, oh I need to and this is like bad. I'm like, oh, I need to work out a lot like before a shoot day because I'm gonna be on camera. And I wanna look good on camera and look good, quote good being what society's standards of looking good are. So that's fucked up. And I engage in that shit. Also, don't we shouldn't be beating ourselves up because we don't have the perfect. He's. Yeah. We just need to accept this got programmed. Yeah. This got programmed. And so I'm criticizing the program yet person. Yes. Exact- criticized, roaming, not the character. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. And the fact is that Nicklaus pine in writing this story has perpetuated the program. Yep. By being like, oh or hard perpetrating. I bet this was written by a woman, though. Yeah. Fine. He'll of like your mom, telling you, you look fat. Yeah. They had that field because I have my mom told me that, like, we'll have you just tried not to eat fast food. Yeah. Or like. The meanest thing my mom. Obviously a lot of really mean things two things one was, she looked at me. And this is what I was twenty. She goes, you know, when I was twenty I was ninety pounds. And she's like an just like looked at me, and I was like, also, you're like five inches shorter than me. God. And then another one was, I was dating someone who in retrospect was a terrible person. Really bad. He was my rapist is very bad person. But this before, all this happened, my mom goes, you know, just because your boyfriend's fat doesn't mean you have to be too. Yeah. And I was like cool also. And this is such a dumb thing to say. But at the time she was bigger than me. I was like, but but, but you don't have the shitty boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah. I think that all by myself. Yeah. Yeah. I was like I could have done this without him around. But yeah, it was months can parents really fuck up their kids and it's not just mom's frequently moms. Yeah. And yeah. And they think because there are woman. Yeah. Thing so often as well. It's like, well, I don't want you to get teased. Like, I did exactly you need to eat, like nothing fun. Yeah. Yeah. Everything in moderation. Right. Even like healthy. I mea like being also the fun thing is why people go come on just have a drink or like don't go to gyms or have some cake. It's like do the fun thing. Be fun. Yes. It's weird. I yeah, 'cause I also like I don't drink that much anymore. And I think it's because I, I do drink I, I do still drink, but I don't drink as much anymore. I think just because I just really really really, really overdid it in my twenties like a lot same. And I am surprised. I did not die. I think there's a multi verse where. Died of alcohol poisoning. Oh I'm there being dead as well. Yes, you're there being debt as well. Yeah. And I've had times where I like go to a bar to meet up with people, and they're like, what you're not drinking. And I'm like, dude, I just so sometimes what I'll do. And this is a trick told to me by Ryan Mogi from the show where if she doesn't, feel like drinking, she will doesn't want people to get on her case, she'll do a sparkling water with a little bit of bidders in it, and it looks like a drink. You can just drink that and people can stick, alignment it. Yeah. And then people will leave you alone. Yep. Because that will to of leisure, I've done. When I was in my twenties drink. It's not fun for sure. Have done that in my twenty s I was a little head. I, I kind of I don't. Shame the people I work with for not drinking. But, like, none of them drink, and so and Justin will be like, so it's, it's never something like, oh, let's all go to a bar afterward. Really? Man. We're the only ones who drink. So it's not it's not as much about it will. It's the it's the inverse. It's like are they judging us? Yeah. Yeah. At I it's weird because, like I've had so many experiences where I do like it breaks down the walls. It breaks down people's emotional walls. And so you'll have a bitter a bit deeper of discussion. If you're both drinking. And so there is that aspect, but also, like no one should drink. Yeah, none of us should be drinking. I mean, I've definitely used for sure. I mean I feel like all of us who have ever had alcohol have done this of using it to like, you know, you feel kind of like I feel a little uptight right now. I won't loosen up. So I'll have a couple unwind. Yeah. But it's you know what? The benefit of not drinking as much is that I can now get pretty awful like two or three like save so much money like this isn't God. I think about college, and I'm just like I who go to birds after doing stuff at UCSB. And because I was there. Oh, so often, the bartenders knew me and would give me free drinks or way over poor me, like I would go in and the bartender, I saw the most would see me. And then just like pull out a tum- a pint glass one, I'm drinking like a high ball glass or a pint. Yeah, fill it with ice engine, then fill it with whiskey. Oh my God. A pint glass with whiskey. Yeah. Just give it to me for half the price of a drink. Yeah. And then I, I would be two or three. Yeah, I drink so much. I drink a lot. I would get blacked out almost and, and, you know, we knew early twenties you don't know what hangover what a hangover really feels like because you're like, oh, I'm just so hang over. And it's like no dude, like, have you ever been so hung over that you'd have to buy an extra night at a hotel? Yeah. Yes, you can't leave the next day. That's like I have not had to do that. But I, I remember thinking, like the I guess I did feel like I remember there was one time where I genuinely felt like very, very bad in very sick. Oh, god. And I would like sleep with people. I shouldn't sleep with very, very bad. Yeah. Very bad. Not everyone's life is perfect. I do have one you don't have a perfect. I did have one moment where I. Was I was blacked out drunk in, I don't remember doing this. But apparently, I did it so I was like passed out and my friends were having to carry me out of the cab into our -partment, and they were carrying me and one of them, just goes, oh, she's, so heavy and apparently sat straight up and I was like I am not heavy. Then pass out. Doing that. But I. I've told this story before, but I think I got slipped something at UC New Year's party. I think two thousand mighty sketchy. Yeah. I don't know when it happened. All I know is like I'd never gotten drunk that quickly that badly. I only remember having a couple of drinks. Yeah. Suddenly, I was like sleeping in the earth. Yes. But the guy I was seeing at the time, who I add Hughes, like, really trying to talk me into seeing him again, because we had dated and we weren't exclusive, but like we went on, like a weekend trip, and he's a bunch of photos, and this is how long ago it was. And then he posted the photos on flicker. Oh my God. Flaker seven and, and then we go week later, all of a sudden posted photos of another girl, my God in the same place. I was like we weren't exclusive? So it's tack like we're just seeing each other. But so I called him. I was like, look, you didn't do anything wrong, but like that is not for me. So, you know, no hard feelings. But like I don't think that we should see each other anymore. But we can totally still be friends. It's fine. And so we're still friends, but then, like we made out over thanksgiving break, and I was like, well, that was fun. And then he was like, let state now and I was like, I don't think that idea. And so he was like trying to convince he was trying to convince me to see him again, and be in a relationship, not, not even see anybody else. He wanted to be interrelation. My God, me, and I was like. now man. Yeah. So we go to these New Year's party, and then he like to his credit like Tate Hughes like trying to take care of me and he was taking me home. But he's dragging me, dummy UCB hallway, I just go I don't trust. You. Cream. I didn't. And as it turned out, I should not have. Yeah. He talked me back into it and owner, then, like father people while we were two. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Coca call. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I tried to get me to go out with. Later. I was like, no, this is a bad idea. I'm sorry. No. Man. I feel like I, I feel like I've dated a couple of guys who know I was reading about my Myers, Briggs and about how one of the not it's like both benefits both like his blessing occurs. It's the like shag. Bus not bless. Is that like I my personality type people feel connected to me quickly, and I and I feel connected to them quickly, but I can my personality type can move on from that quickly, also. And that kind of the case for me like I had dated I never said I love you to these guys. These guys never said I love you to me, but, like three different guys dated, which I thought it was a fling. I thought it was like we're having fun. We don't like each other enough to like make things superficial and afterwards. And of course, this also could've just been them wanting to like fuck or something after it ended Slim's years later. These guys reach out and be like, you know, I think about all the time. You're just the one that got away and I'd be like what like what evidence I'd get your sources. I just don't get how so many seriously like one of these guys, I was like we dated for, like, three months off and on, and you like didn't like me enough to remember. I existed when you weren't in LA. I don't understand how it could have been the one that got away when, like we were not even that connected, when we were together, maybe my personality type is the type that like in retrospect like over memory. I seem perfect. But, like, when you're with me, I'm not that great. I think that's probably what it is. Well, that's how I felt s- about this guy is like he, he was convinced that we should be together. And I was like if the song had existed would. Have wanted to quote beyond say. Yeah. It'd be like you only want. We want me when I'm not there yet. So you better call Becky with the good hair. Yeah. Like go. Yeah. Somebody who's less complicated who doesn't have the baggage. I have that you clearly can't deal with. Yeah. Which is why we broke up. Yeah. Again. Yeah. It's handle my depression. Yeah. But then later, they're like. Oh, yeah. I liked being with her. Yeah, I'm sure the three like fun nights, remembering we're fun. Yeah. But like I know that you're just going to not want to deal with it again. Yeah. Man. That's crazy. I think guys have a maybe more of a one that got away complex. They do. It's so like in pop culture. Yeah. Jaba. Do you remember why I got away? Yeah. Yeah, you're not thinking about that part. You're just thinking you'd like rose colored glasses. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking, like there's nothing hotter than rejection totally and my God. I think applies to guys and girls. That's everybody. The one that got away thing. I is mostly like like like. Heterosexual. Guys get this kind of like 'cause, you know, you see in the movies, like, you know, it's always like a guy that like meets up with encounters a woman that like he knew very Noir. Of like, oh, this woman from past. I think it's got because that was the reason I would be given by guys who like I didn't say anything man. Yeah. But suddenly they're telling me like you're the kind of person I'd want to settle down with not just date. And I'm like where is it? Yeah. Sitting on swings in a playground and they're suddenly like God. I wish I wanted to date you and I'm like fin. Fix for that glimpse into your mind right now who said about I didn't need that. Crush on you. Yes. But I didn't say it. And so I don't need to hear you about like you wish you wanted to date me thing, man for that. But this is that's a guy thing that's another programming thing. Like there's even now even with how things are and our modern age. I think they're still a kind of grow, you have fun with and kinda grow you marry I and like, also there's like guys have this thing where they okay hashtag. Not all men. I guess, like a lot of heterosexual guys think that all women deep down like one a snag you with their claws. Yes. Like tie down. Yeah. And like I think that there's something like ma- manic pixie dream girlish about this unattainable woman, who's, like just going to float into my life in, like painted technicolor, and then led me waltz out. That's like. I don't know. Yeah, it was like when I told that guy like, hey, you didn't do anything wrong. But, like I'm. It helped me realize something about myself that I am. I am about commitment, and so if like you're not looking for that, if you're not looking to explore it one on one, then we shouldn't date, but, like no hard feelings, everything's fine. No, thank you. All my best wishes. Yeah. Sincerely, Wednesay Cates. Yes. I think when you do something like that, to a lot of guys, again hashtag, not man. Then you are so impressive to them you become like your status goes through the fucking Ruth. If you had the power to be that cavalier of like you didn't even do anything wrong. But by you had. Had. I think exactly that thinking of those guys that are like you're the one that go to way. Yeah. And for them, I did say something very similar to that. I was like you know what? I just don't think we like I don't think we like like each other enough for this to be a real thing. And so, you know, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna let you go your way and I'm gonna go my way, and that's just that's just going to be it. And it's like all of a sudden you're magic. Yeah. I thought you wanted to be my ball and chain. Yeah. What are those teachers that are like, like beer me? I'm getting married. These seizures that are like. Like there goes my freedom. Yeah. A picture of a ring. Shit like that. Even if they're not that guy, he was not that guy. There is the Donncha stereotype of that guy. But it exists in different stereotype. But yeah, it's like the second I was like fine with what was the fact that, that's what he wanted and find saying, no to that, like taking myself out of the equation, so casually. I think there was there's nothing more desirable than that. Yes. So I think, again, it was like we broke up and then I mean slightly in his defense, I did get drunk and I was like, oh, it was really good. Seeing you last night. It was sort of, like bitter sweet blah, blah, blah. And then he wrote me back the next day. And he was like, yeah. I'm just really like I'm seeing this other person. I'm not looking. I was like totally totally understand, like, you know, maybe it's the kind of thing, we're like we're meant to be together way down the line share. And in my mind, I'm thinking, when we're sixty. Yeah. Then he your later is like, is it now? I was like, oh, no. Not now. Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, so it was like almost miscommunicate. Yeah. I was like, well, he did say that. Yeah. I just had a very different like rom com idea about it like, when we're old and gray maybe. Each other movie. Okay. What does that really gets going with? Linda hunt, Jack Nicholson and Ellen. Due bag author and she's like a waitress or something you never. All right. It's complicated. Maybe. I Nancy my Meyers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was just like, oh, maybe in the future. And I think, again, it was like, because I was okay, it's like, anytime. You're okay. Then you're like the one that got away. Yep. And if you were truly hurt by the break-up than just like utter avoidance and you forever. Yes, I remember the guy that I broke up with, because like he couldn't remember I existed if he wasn't in LA like literally like, I would text him and he like wouldn't respond or like Sonos. I'd be like this was back when I was, like, I have to be a cool girl before I was like, it's okay to like, want someone to be committed to you, same. So what I realized that I was like, hey, I'm not cool. Yeah. I can't be a cool grow. Yeah. Yeah. I hadn't seen him for a while. We kind of avoided each other, and then like a year later, we're at this party and he like walks in, and I was with somebody else at the time I was dating someone else, and we he like, sees me across the, the like it was at a red lion. So it was outside. And he's like, hey I need to talk to you, and I was like okay, and then we start talking, and he's like, how are you? I'm really good. I'm actually here with the guy. I'm seeing and pointed. And he like laughed and under no real. I'm not joking. That guy. I'm seeing that guy and like something like his head I could tell and then he was like shoes. Co cool. Awesome, cool wasn't onto way. Switch. Yeah. But he's like, oh, that's mazing. Cool. So cool, you're dating someone. That's so good datings great. I love that you're doing that. Yeah. The guy was talking about doesn't listen to this podcast. Yeah, I'm hoping to say I'm not being cavalier about his feelings, but I do think that if we had given it another go the same thing would have happened. Yeah, I do think it was a. I got tinted like with gold or something. Yeah. Rose colored glasses like heat is heated not remember. Yeah. How depressed I was how many sexual hangups I had was like not thinking about having to go through that. That's also I want to say I don't think this guy even clocks, what I'm doing anymore. But if this guy is listening, I do want to say like. I'm not the person that got away for you. Right. I've been me this whole time fate, fake fake. Who I'm like, there are cases where it's like, oh, it just didn't work out. Like or like I live. Life long distance. Yeah. And so that really is like I mean I love Mike with all my heart. I'm not. I don't like want to not be with. But I do wonder like oh I, I wonder what would have happened if it wasn't long distance. Yeah. But to be like one that got away. It's. Well, we weren't working. Now and it wasn't even because of like weird extenuating circumstances of, like I feel like a lot of times, because of pop culture, like a lot of guys like think of in the same way as like the CIA came in took her away. And it's like no, dude. Like just like didn't work like you didn't really like me and I didn't really like you and your imbuing it with different. Yeah. You're making a magical when it wasn't so saying, I'm not I'm not the fucking one way. It's a fantasy. It's a fantasy. Believe me real. I'm in me this whole time. I'm not special. I know what it's like to be around me. It's fine. Then I mean now it's hard not I don't like it too easy. Not a person to be a relationship with. But like I get I get I get the idea of a person because one has that right in their heads. They're like, oh, you know, this person like they were so great. They were so those and then, you know, you don't remember. It's the rose colored glasses us. Don't remember the other stuff. Yeah. How funny was it in this book when Kelly's like? Kelly's popular right? Yep. She would hope and whereas context, yes, she does. And so make you hit it. So. So then rate over show, her friend, Rachel, Rachel, Jeremy, keeps calling her names, and one of them is Roselle. So Rachel's like. Hey, can you come over tonight? And Kelly, I'm really busy. I have to lay on my clothes and take out my contacts. My conduct a wise. If, if someone like if I asked you to hang out, and you're like I can't I have to lay out my clothes and soak my context, it'd would be like you say you don't want to hang out. Oh, god. I would see the thing is I so would accept that. Like I have to put my contacts in a little dish with contact solution and Paker shirt. And that's, that's got me. He'll midnight also she the way she describes it. Right. 'cause she's like I have to take out my contacts and put them in a wash and all that. She's trying to make it sound like this, like eight step, brother. You point him out of your. She also she says, in that same breath, basically, like it's so much work to keep up your appearance. And now that I've got it. I don't wanna lose it, and I just want to try to get better and better by doing. Same thing that everybody else on the planet is doing. Namely, choosing shirt. Like it's hard to pair close. I know she didn't just get queer eye. She has like the same like their clothes are also. Even if you do get queer, I'd part of the whole thing is how easy it is thrown out thrown off together and contacts. Aren't that hard? I wear them every fucking day was specially night, you're taking them out, the easy part, plunk. Yeah, I guess they didn't have no solution. Okay, fine. Shed of rubber Moloto bit booboo who literally takes like a minute, max max it takes two. She didn't wanna hang out fake as but yeah, I mean if she had listed studying as part of that, but she really was like. Now that I'm popular. There's so much work now. Also, her like healthy food diet is so 'nineties healthy chicken breast broccoli salad, surprise cottage. She didn't get mentioned. I love cottage cheese. I tried. I was eating cottage cheese for a little while. I was eating the little baby. Oh, small curd, small Kurds. Small freaks me out. Pineapple in it. I like that. A little. Yeah. I like it. And then I had too much. And now it can't you can overdo it ease me. Yeah. Feel sick. Yeah, I like that. I like hard boiled eggs, hard, boiled egg. Every day I try to have one to two. My breakfast is always coffee, hard-boiled egg cautious zero nice. I do green smoothie either strip of bacon or to horrible digs because I need to have something salty with my smoothie, otherwise if evergreen smoothie alone on empty stomach. It kind of makes me queasy a little bit too fiber, I guess, or I'll do cereal, and then I'll have migrants later in the day, but I have to agree with the every day. Otherwise, I freak out. I don't know why freak out. I just do I get scared that I don't have enough nutrients. Nothing. I'm not going to high should be more afraid of that. Why don't like eating vegetables? I'd rather literally drink all of them in the morning. And then I'm done, and then I can have some vegetables with dinner. But really, like I I don't really like eating them unless they're prepared by a restaurant. But if I have to wear them, I don't like preparing vegetables. I can handle roasted cauliflower at home. Yeah. I'll do I'll do roasted vegetables. I like lie. Good to like doing like one of my favorite things that me and Mike, go to make. Spaghetti squash roasted spaghetti squash that will make into noodle things with a slices of eggplant that have been baked and then. The meatballs with fresh mozzarella and tomato sauce, dang good. It's good as shit, and it's really healthy and it's super filling, that's now healthy food. Yeah. Sprays that this book didn't also talk about, like rice cakes. Oh my God. Do you remember when that's all people were eating up my no? Because my mom is it was like, yeah. Healthy food in the nineties, iceberg, iceberg lettuce. Rice cakes rice oil audits cheese. No oil on anything light Italian. Yeah. On everything even though Italian round rice sugar. And it wasn't even. Yeah. Brown rice and what else they cabbage soup to remember the cabbage soup diet for that. Huge bet it just makes you forty. Right. Because cabbage makes me forty probably. So probably just makes you should I did whenever my mom would do her cabbage soup dies. Whereas like that's all she ate. I liked the cabbage soup I like having cabbage. Yeah. But it would be like you do like three days of cabbage soup. You know what I would do what? This is probably not healthy. This is probably like borderline like when people take also really boring. Listen to this is how I really listen to. Okay. I do cook a can of beans, and I'd throw in a can of corn and I'd mix it up with salsa, and then a little bit of cheese out eat that feel terrible. The biggest of my life in the morning it'd be so skinny. I should do that. Because I really guys let's be realized struggle with constipation. Well, always have thing if you eat that you will be extremely uncomfortable that night, the yeah. Do it when Mike snot around, because he will be not well, and then in the morning, you will really go get to go and you'll feel great. That sounds great. This is probably like, so I'm gonna get sued my summer saying this. Chess system. It's my stomach makes the craziest funding noises. I like a haunted house. Oh, yeah. Eights or like a red dryer. Yes. This me too, like Zo embarrassing. I hate it. Here. I have found cabbage soup diet. I looked it up. Oh, what is in it? This seven day diet weight loss cabbage soup. How, how do I how I lose ten pounds in seven days with this cabbage soup aka military diet? This website is garbage. You're in a virus on your phone, this whips his garbage a that's not a sentence. Ten pounds in seven days is a lie. That's already that's scary. No way. This Corbet JR. Website. Okay. What is the diet? Okay. Here's what I am. Realizing wait, what persons crazy? Crazy. Day one eaten nothing but fruit today, except for bananas and is much of the diet cabbage soup is you bike? You should try to stick with fruits with lower sugar content, like apples, blueberries, etc. I enjoy eating baked cinnamon apples. Okay, sugar using Gallo or Honey, crisp apples in the morning. A large fruit salad and cabbage soup for lunch and cabbage soup and a melon, you're shitting. This is like my dinner, but like all for a week. Get your crunchy fix with dried fruits snack on fruit throughout the day. I can't. Rosen grapes, make delicious treats. Watermelon blended makes a refreshing natural slushy today wasn't as bad as I expect due to eat nothing but vegetables, except corner other starchy veggies. However, you do get to start the day with a baked potato wrestler. Sweet you will love having this baked potato. Trust me. I never thought I'd be so happy to eat a baked potato in the morning, I prefer sweet potato for breakfast. I dis my sweet potato into cubes sprinkled with a little olive oil, and cinnamon and roasted in the oven, along with some bell peppers and onions, what? Okay, that's crazy combination. Right. Why she's at venom? It is like, oh, this is okay. Like sweet. And then she said, bell peppers and onions. Yeah. I was like, oh, we did not think that, right? I think that some this website is maybe just a by aggregated. Yeah. Content made to sound like a diet and thrown up. 'cause they will these so happy to have this baked potato in the morning. Trying to me. I don't happy for lunch. I do the cabbage soup. Salad sprinkled with salt pepper and olive oil. It's pretty good for dinner. I do. Reis cauliflower topped with a stir fry of zucchini, roasted carrots and bell peppers with light. So I saw cheating. I snack on baked spinach chips. Today was okay. You eat fruits and veggies, except bananas corn and other starchy vegetables, you also don't get a potato today. Sucks. You also don't get potato today sucks. I just repeat day one and into for my foods day four today. You only eat bananas and milk yogurt. Is the dumbest day by far changed my mind this isn't about this isn't dumpers. We, I'm sorry. You only banana. And milk laws yogurt. Today is the dumbest Meyer far hated. Have in milk or unsweetened yogurt boob. Let's make the best of it for breakfast. I do have bananas movie made bananas almond milk in Greek yogurt for econ. Jets. Horrible. This is horrible. The person is doing it all wrong for dinner. I do another large banana smoothie and more cabbage soup I make banana ice cream by freezing banana slices and then blending them also eat, simple dried banana chips. It's not that difficult of a day. Very dull. And if you hate bananas I feel sorry for you. Babes. Today, only eat tomatoes. Hang on. Sorry. There is more to that sentence, six to eight and protein like fish, Turkey and chicken. Okay. I had no problems with this day. Since I love me, I was happy to get it. I made Turkey sausage. Patties for breakfast with tomatoes for lunch. I had grilled chicken top with tomatoes season salt basil pepper and cabbage soup. Okay for dinner, I had more wonder suit, but I added Turkey breakfast to it more tomatoes very filling. I got tired of the soup on this day. I feel like the soup is a non ish. It's like barely apart. Remember the story of rocks soup or stone soup. Where the guys like I can cook you some nail soup. You'll be the best you've ever had. And he's like all I need is tomato. Oh, I needed potato. Oh, I need onions. I need this. And then it just as regular soup. This is what this is like it's like a crazy fucking diet, that has Kevin has soup. I'm sorry. The day of just bananas. Is crazy. No potato today. Suck. No potato today, comma sucks to flu bation really funny today. It's protein, the one day six today. It's protein in veggies. Unlike yesterday you can have other vegetables, besides tomatoes Turkey sausage and roasted veggies. For breakfast, I had a stir fry with chicken and veggies, for lunch so good, I had spaghetti squash, tomato sauce and ground Turkey for dinners Getty. Squashes off-limits, starchy. But I had to have it. He's. I didn't have any cabbage. I was feeling over Kevin. Cabbage soup diet. Clearly supposed to today was the best. I didn't have any cabinets today. This is amazing. Diary. Jay seven today, it's just fruits vegetables. Juices, boo? I hated today. I wanted more meat. Thank god. It's the last date. The skill says, I'm seven pounds later this morning. So that was great to see. I feel clean inside. I'm hungry today. Those super hungry for breakfast. I made a huge fruit and veggies smoother using spinach, apples oranges, grapes and water. So to find sweet kept me full until it was time for lunch for lunch. I do a large salad cabbage soup and watermelon. Slushie. The pursuit, weekend dinner, I do another rice cauliflower stir fry with roasted veggies. I snack on baked cinnamon apples cantaloupe the sugar. Yeah, the sugars crazy day, ten pounds down this morning and I can see it tummy is nice and flat. And my face looks much slimmer. This is all a lie. My husband notices my weight loss to. He's not happy that my booty look smaller. Neither am I my fingers are slimmer my wedding ring fits, different. This is like the Joko Bartlett. I figured out the joke of Barton now. My fingers are longer. I figured out my I am impetus secret of cabbage soup and my fingers are slimmer and my wedding ring finger fits different today. Pace myself with food and we'll do so for the next week while on vacation, no, sugary foods or bad carbs, I continue with a diet full of fruits veggies, and lean meats, incorporate eggs, oatmeal, and whole grain pasta and bread, Honey. And stevia. Sweetener my. Calorie intake is now at its recommended level for a healthy weight loss with exercise. I feel great also to want to guess what the impetus for going on this diet was vacation. Yeah. But what? Oh. Cancun. Hawaii. She. Oh, what form fitting shirt she wanted to wear? What's for a shirt Disneyland too? Dizzy, she went on a seven day crazy diet, too. For shirt at Disneyland. Girl. What's Disneyland Mickey's? You gotta keep it tight for Maki. Yeah. Oh, my God recipe is or that diet is fucking crazy. So finance always so funny. That was really funny. So that's everything about the book, right? Yeah. 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Practice English Grammar Through Games: Quiz42 (With Martin Samuels)

The English Journey Podcast

20:43 min | 4 months ago

Practice English Grammar Through Games: Quiz42 (With Martin Samuels)

"Hi there and welcome back to the English Ernie podcast. I am your host Jasmine. Joe Hall this week. We have a super exciting episode as we are joined by special guest, Martin Samuel and university English language teacher in Budapest Martin has many years of teaching experience, both in the public and private sectors. He has now been working on an amazing language tool called quiz for to which we will be discussing later in this episode. Ultimately, Martin is going to share with our listeners should be learning English through online games, such as quiz for two. High Martin thank you so much for joining me on the English journey podcast. We are thrilled to have this week. How is it going? Jasmine thank you for having me. It's A. Nice to to to to share some thoughts with with new. Listeners. People I haven't had pajamas to talk to before things. Good things are good where I'm hearing Budapest we we've seen quite lucky. I think with the with the covent. Think we come in? It looks like we're coming to an end of it so hopefully things A. Good awesome to hear, and likewise it's awesome to connect with language teachers around the world. It's funny how small the world can really be so to me I just wanted to ask you a little bit more about yourself. In terms of your teaching experience I know you've had quite the resume. Been Teaching for twenty six years. I think now. I got into teaching little bit by by by by accident. Really A. I moved to Budapest the best twenty six years ago. and was looking for things that I could do, and somebody suggested teaching English. So I went to language school gave me a class, but one of NAS to do as a as a trial. And I prepared for it. I gave the class. Hi, I'm myself wasn't particularly satisfied with the way went, but several students came up to me off the classroom. What are you into? Be On you teacher? That's great, so I started looking around to see what I do, and I've worked in language school for a while I got a job at one of the large universities in Budapest. University of Economics Teaching, general and Business English the half. They have had an international program, so I was teaching students from all over the world in Budapest they also had an interesting program because up until the early ninety s Russian had been the the main foreign language that if people studied here. Everybody had to learn Russian against that. Will nobody really wanted to? And with the change of regime in early nineties, people decided they wanted to learn Russian everybody wants you to learn English seventy. They found themselves with a whole load of of Russian teaches that they didn't know what to do with. They didn't have jobs for them. They put them the chance to retrain as English. Teachers High I started teaching on that program that was. I of night was it was as a very inexperienced to Jack. It was great. It was a great experience because I was working language teachers who had been working for years. They had been teaching for twenty thirty years. And Abo-. Mogi seems a little bit different teaching rushing. The basics of teaching language on a very similar. So I was I I was able to look from from the Russian teaches that I was trying to teach to be. English teaches at amazing, and you mentioned how you taught a lot of international students. Did you find that through that experience kind of led the way to your current tool earlier quiz for two APP it certainly a is to the fact that. English is something which is not GonNa go way. It's going to be the wolves language it's it's something which now everybody wants to be able to speak whether. I think in when I started teaching here. Twenty five twenty six years ago, it was an advantage. If somebody spoke English, it was it was something a little bit unusual today. It's just expected today. If you don't speak English, you'll You're getting a good job on greatly reduced so it. It's just it's considered something I think worldwide. which everybody now thinks that being able to speak English is it's a site. It's not it's not. It's no longer an advantage something, which is a. A requirements I. Hunter Percent Agree with that. It really does open up a plethora of job opportunities. Life experiences connections I mean most of the online networking nowadays does happen in English so it's super useful and I totally agree with that. I did want to ask you more about why you decided to launch quiz for to you know. Tell us a little bit about it. What is it and why did it kind of come about? If it's a little bit of a long story. A friend of an English friend who lives here in Budapest in the high. We talked together in the same score for several years. And one day we came up with an idea that we wanted to make a websites for everything that was English. And we used to meet once. A week discussed the what we wanted to do. How we were going to do it and we we sat down came up with ideas. And I think after awhile. We didn't realize that that was just far too much. What we were thinking of was it was impossible. It was just such a big a big project that we would never be able to do it justice. This friend was also. Teaching, not just fulltime. He is teaching all the albums that that he could end. He didn't really want to give up and didn't really have the time. To take on a new project I have one of the ideas that we had was to have this interactive. Online quiz websites. This was an idea that I had come up with. after watching my daughter play a Hungarian game or nine the Hungarian game was it was a rebound Hungarian, his three Hungarian Coccia, her giving society, but people were playing against each other online and escape. It was very very popular number successful here in Hungary, and I thought then that if if they could make a game was not successful in a country with a population of about ten million people. Than for if it's something similar in English where there now. Between two two and a half billion people learning, speaking English than it has to be a market for it. I looked around to see if I could find thing anything similar an idea I. didn't find any I couldn't find anything that was doing what we wanted to do. So that's how the idea came abounds then it was a question of finding the technical people. I knew what I wanted to do. I didn't know whether it was possible. You turned out that most of the things I wanted to do with any standard for for people who who understand the development side to be stopped. We started developing in. Yes very simply the idea is that we wanted to come up with a gain which gets people playing against each other. It's quiz. I know there are lots of quizzes out there, but we do when you go online you register, and you go into the multi-player on you can find. Somebody could be anywhere in the world who happen to be online in a similar position from wants to play with to against somebody in the similar level of English two. We pappy, and then they play a short quiz. There are seven questions these grandma. Grandma based questions basically who based in some kind of criminal. We've tried to make them interesting tried to make them little bit fun. Around four levels, so basically anybody with a fairly basic minimum level of English knowledge of English can enjoy with, too because there are some two and a half thousand questions designed for people who are basically begin news, and you mentioned how grammar based and I did actually get a chance to try the quiz, and it was very interactive, and I found. It was very fun and you know with Grammar. As. We already know language. It's not the funnest subject to learn and I think that having an idea or a way to make it more innovative and more exciting for learners. That's an awesome idea. I agree I think. We've. Been in the position where we learning a language. And sit down and has to learn the grandma I'm a great believer now in in communication and that it doesn't matter if you make mistakes that the important thing is to be able to communicate. I was. In in the UK in Island, friendship scored, and we were told very much the grammar you must been the Gramley. Don't make mistakes. You must get hit right. which is a very negative approach when when it comes to to people, actually using the language, and so I now try to tell people in when I'm teaching them, English that it's not important whether you make mistakes, but but I know from Miami experience. We all very conscious of that. So I also wanted to do something that tried to make a grant side a little bit more fun I don't really see it as as a teaching tool maybe a teaching aid I don't think we are trying to to take the place of teachers. We trying to give them something else that they can use. So I think we can work in in parallel teaches it gives them something where if you've got five or ten minutes at the end of a lesson if you've got ten minutes, maybe you want to Woma becks assias. Is something that that makes it a bit of fun. Most of our tests done hearing in schools in in beautifullest, and this is what the teachers this as well. They realized that something that they thought it was. A great demand for especially with the the developments that we do. We have in in line We want to to develop a filter system. whereby you can select the type of questions that you're going to to receive, says teaching president perfect. You'll be able to select questions primarily on the present, perfect and level the students. which will increase the usefulness for teaches some of the feedback that I've had so far? People have said that it's it's great fun. It's. A great tool is something that the kids really enjoy. Yeah, and you know I really do appreciate that as a teacher, because it's possible to give a lesson and teach students whether online or in person, but then to have kind of like a tutorial or some way to actually authenticate the lesson and have them practice it especially on their own right, because students can actually access quiz for two in the comfort of their own home so something they can do even after the lesson is finished, so that is amazing. Very much, so that's something we. We are trying to promote the fact that. It's not just it's not just the five or ten minutes in the classroom you can, you can then go men practice. You can practice in single player mode, or as you can look for search for a random opponent, but I really want my dream from from this whole thing is to have maybe a student sitting here in Hungary and getting online, looking for an apartment and finding somebody in Vietnam playing a game or a couple of games against somebody Vietnam, then looking for another Huntington finding someone in Poland then again, looking again in finding somebody may be in in Italy somebody. Iran somebody as a site. These people could be anywhere in the world. Who they need is is the desire to to speak in practicing. and. The one of the next stages will be to in to introduce a chat function as well so once. You've made contact with somebody. And have played up the pains against them. You will. Be Able to chat with them. He's my vision. For to the future, no, it's an excellent vision. It really is bringing the world closer together through languages, and through the English language in specific We did kind of touch on this, but I was wondering what basically according to you. What are the biggest benefits maybe to learning and practicing English through games or and specific through Christopher to you know? Why should English language learners play games to reinforce the vocabulary and grammar? I think. Wants that question very shortly. It's effect. If you're having fun. You don't realize that you're learning. I think most of us have learned to language or more than one language. And when you when you're playing if you can, if you can enjoy what you're doing than it, it's that's half the battle and games. Particularly these type of games a way. You are constantly receiving questions you will after while. receive similar types of question so once you've seen a question. The more you practice that type of question, the more you will be able to use structure when you are speaking English. When you have to use it so. The idea of of practice having fun, not actually realizing that your that you're learning, I think you only have to look at the number of games online wizards hangman cross woods. So many games, and all of us have teach as teachers have had how favorites! And I that quiz two is just a a development of of the of things that people were doing in the past to give an example I had to let one lesson when we were testing in one of the high schools here. And I met the teacher just before the lesson at my first impression was that. Moon you respect she was. Not The youngest teacher. She didn't appear at first to be the most. Modern in have been a message. But, then when we started plane, she pulled me aside and said this is wonderful. And my view is that. Have you was that. The kids who got phones, and if she groups into the classroom and the first thing she says is put your phones away I. Don't want to see your phones than it creates a a an atmosphere, bad atmosphere in the classroom, whereas if she got into the room and they're. They've got their phones out and she says Oh. You got your phones out. That's used them. Let's play again. It wins them over the very happy to to spend five or ten minutes playing. And then as she said, it's much easier for her, then to say, okay we. We had a bit of fun with the funds. Now put them away and let's get on with with the lesson. Now most students have a smartphone. Majority of schools are now getting. WIFI Internet access, so it's just a natural progression that we should use these these tools. Of their. Absolutely and I love how you mentioned how we should be incorporating the twenty first century styles into our teaching an into the classroom. I have had some experience teaching in high school, and now I am teaching at a primary level, and it's really funny, because of course you know, Kids Love Games, and they're super engaged in. I make sure to do tons of games in my teaching styles, but it does make me. Me Really sad to see the decrease of engaged learning that happens at an older age or at older grade levels because I feel, they need to be more direct and have a more lecture style. Teaching and I think that's not the case. We don't need to stop playing games. We don't need to stop making learning authentic fun. We can find ways to adopt even with older grades so I love that and And even just finding easy ways to incorporate daily practice of new language learning, it's so important you mentioned how we can just take five to ten minutes of our time each day. Just by practicing and having fun definitely helps because it doesn't really feel like you're learning so I definitely think something like quiz for two would be awesome to just dedicate for our listeners ten to fifteen minutes of your time and it. It will really go far because you are having fun, and you actually are learning without really realizing it. Your brain is slowly memorizing through repetition of similar question styles, so I did want to say thank you so much. Martin for sharing this information with our community Where can our listeners find more about Christopher two and basically try it out for themselves. Thank you for giving me the Opportunity Jasmine. I appreciate and. Two is a a website of the momentous quiz than a number four and number two. It's like quiz forty two. I came up with the idea that it should be full, too, because it's a quiz basically for two people. So, yes, QUIZ TO DOT COM! You have to register. Once, you've registered. You can stop playing away. And one. I think one of the best features for teachers is that you can start to a group game? So if you have a language plus you teach, you can create a group and. All the members of the group and then. They play against each other within within the group and the teacher contract can see. Who's played against who what Games being played? Once you're there. There are lots of different options than it. It's it's fun. Yes DOT, com, go on, have a look and see what you think. You can contact us through the website, so if anybody has any feedback, we're always open to new ideas suggestions. We already have a lot of ideas that we want to incorporate in the not to distant future, but if anybody has any other ideas, I'm always always happy to listen perfect and I will have the website listed in the episode description box for easier reference for our listeners definitely check it out, guys if you're looking for authentic fun ways to practice your English grammar. Thanks so much again Martin for doing this. Keep doing what you're doing. I love seeing passionate teachers who are finding innovative ways to teach the English language. If you guys liked this week's episode, subscribe to the English Journey Podcast, so you can get our newest episodes delivered straight to your phone. Enjoy the rest of your day and I. Hope you'll join me next week. Don't.

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#131 Skattebetalerforening vil at skattefradraget for fagforeninger skal kes!

Liberaleren Podcast

23:23 min | 3 months ago

#131 Skattebetalerforening vil at skattefradraget for fagforeninger skal kes!

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Refinance, Debt Consolation, Debt Cancelation

Reduce Debt Increase Wealth

29:39 min | 6 months ago

Refinance, Debt Consolation, Debt Cancelation

"Reduced DEBT INCREASE WEALTH DOT BUZZ SPROUT DOT COM. Welcome and Mr Chuck here this week. We're going to talk about refinancing that mortgage loan consolidations and debt cancellation services. What she should do what you should avoid but before we get started with that we need to remember what our plan is. He want to reduce your debt as quickly as possible with the least amount of expense or cost so at that said should you refinance your mortgage or not. But I I want to remind you to stay true dear plant and the plan is keeping track of all your finances know how much is in your checking account and if you have any extra money or discretionary money. Transfer that to your savings account. If you're not doing that you're in trouble and by now. You should've called and renegotiate some of terms what you've been paying for maybe cell phone cable. Internet streaming. You need to find better prices for the things that you use on a regular basis. If you're not using things you need to cancel the services or you'll never get out of debt. Were trying to reduce your spending so we can apply that money to your debt now. Should you refinance out mortgage? I would say years ago and interest rates were twelve percent eight percent six percent definitely if the interest rate dropped two percent one percent at least one half percent and you can avoid some of the closing costs or if he Got Closing costs. Wave definitely do it. But you must avoid run in your credit card debt and then increasing them out yo on your mortgage your credit card. Debt is unsecured debt feed default on that credit card. They're working they're gonNA do is cancel that card service. Maybe turn it over to collection and try to get some money out. Yeah but they have nothing as collateral that they can force you to or they can foreclose on so with that said if you something happens and you can't afford to pay your mortgage. He wanted to try to keep your mortgage payment as low as possible. Also if you've been in your house for five or six years he wanna try to get a terms. The length of the mortgage shorten down fee. Started out was a thirty year mortgage. You've been there for years. You want to try to get a twenty five year mortgage refinance. A lesser amount at that in itself will help reduce that monthly payment. So that's my thoughts on that. Remember the plan. You want to reduce the debt as fast as possible if you keep increasing your mortgage and keep on a thirty year mortgage. How's that reducing the debt and? How's that getting house again now? Debt faster so as that thought. I have an article. Thong Una read about refinancing. And you've probably been wondering why keep reading these articles on the main reason is it gives me some credibility it gives me some backup of what. I'm you know what I'm talking about. So with that sad. Here we go. I have a sponsor to try to offset some the cost of this podcast. So That's act talk about next if you take vitamins. He should be taken isotope tonic liquid. It's a- gives you rapid absorption. It's fairly easy to swallow. E get highly concentrated nutrients when which gives you the maximum benefits. It's much better than the pill vitamin because it gets into your system at a much faster rate and more of the vitamin gets into your body. Where your body can use it. I've been using it for five years now. I highly recommended it Learn more about Isis tonic. Vitamins go to my website. Reduced DEBT INCREASE WEALTH DOT BUDS SPROUT DOT COM upper. Right hand corner. Click on the heart. And I'll take you to an ice at tonic website which belongs to my wife and help support to show. Thank you very much how to know when to refinance your mortgage from bank rate written by libby wells when mortgage rates fall as I have in the first quarter of twenty twenty many homeowners refinance their loans. Refinance activity is up dramatically over the last year. It doesn't mean it's always a smart move knowing win to refinance. Your mortgage is the trick. Generally if refinancing will save you money help build equity and pay off your mortgage faster. It's a good decision and with rates this low even people have fairly new mortgages may be able to benefit from refinancing when it's a good idea to refinance your mortgage if you can shave one half to three quarters of a percentage point off your mortgage right by refinancing e should look into it says. Greg McBride. Cfa CHIEF FINANCIAL ANALYST FOR BANK RATE. Just be sure. The cumulative savings on monthly payments is enough to offset the cost of refinancing. If you're planning on moving in the next year or two. It may not mortgage. Interest rates are determined by market factors including the yields on long-term treasury bonds and of course the best rates and terms. Go to those with the best credit so the question of went to refinance is not just about interest rate. It's about your credit being good enough to qualify for the right refinance. Loan your financial goals. How long do you plan to stay in your home? How much equity you have in the home and your overall financial conditions are important consideration when it comes to refinancing. Ask yourself the right questions to help you. Get started is refinancing worth it. And how does refinancing work? There are a variety of ways to refinance your mortgage finding the right. Loan depends on your goals. You might want to switch from an adjustable rate mortgage to a fixed rate loan. That has a steady monthly payment. Or You may want to shorten attorney alone from thirty years to fifteen years to save yourself a bundle in interest charges. I refi is also a way to get rid of private mortgage insurance at your reach twenty percent equity in your home. Most homeowners offer a straight rate and term refinance that lowers their interest rates and give them a comfortable repayment term. Some customers went to lower monthly payments to free up money for other expenses such as college tuition or auto loan. How much cast out mortgage refinance other Hamas go with cash-out refinance in which they borrow more than they owe on the home and use the cash to retire. Credit Card debt pay for home renovation and other major expenses wiping out credit card bounces with lower interest. Loan can be a good move but if you start racking up card balances again you're setting yourself back and increasing your risk. Your mortgage is a debt secured by your home if you start missing mortgage payments. You COULD LOSE. Your home to foreclosure are barrels. Should consult with a mortgage professional to determine if their financial needs are best suited for cash-out refinance versus other forms of credit says Richard Loo a mortgage consultant for C. to Financial Corp as San Diego based mortgage broker. How long does it take to recoup the cost of refinancing? The interest rate is not the only cost away when you consider whether refinancing is worth it. There are cost to close a refi loan and they can be steep. Expect closing costs to total two percent to five percent of the principal amount of the loan. If you borrow two hundred thousand and closing costs are three percent that you'd be owing six thousand dollars at closing rather than require all that money upfront. Many lenders let you roll the closing costs into your principal. Bounce and finance analyst part of the loan decide whether refinance makes sense calculate. How long does it take for the cost of the mortgage refinance to pay for itself? If you're planning to sell the house before you break even refinancing might not be worth it if our borrowers refinancing. Strictly to lower monthly mortgage payments and closing costs are twenty four hundred dollars. That borrows are expected to say. At least this amount and interest payments for the duration they plan to have the loan says Lou to determine your break even point divided total closing costs but amount you say each month with your new payment how to calculate your break even point for closing costs. Let's say your new mortgage saves you one hundred ninety two a month and cost closing costs. Three Thousand Dollars. Three thousand divided by one hundred ninety two a month in savings fifteen point six months to break even if you plan to sell the house before your break even refinancing is not a good strategy example of mortgage refinance. Let's say you took out a thirty year mortgage for one hundred and fifty thousand fixed rate of six percent. Your monthly payment is eight hundred nine hundred dollars over the life of the loan. You'll pay three hundred twenty three thousand seven hundred fifty five dollars including one hundred and seventy three dollars. Seven hundred and fifty five dollars in interest five years into the loan. You pay ten thousand four hundred eighteen dollars towards the principal and forty three thousand five hundred forty one and interest now you want to refine nights the remaining one hundred and thirty nine thousand five hundred eighty one dollars of your principal balance with a new thirty year fixed rate loan of four point five percent. Use Them Bank rates Mogi mortgage refinance calculator. You can figure out whether this would be a money saving. Move your new loan were slash your monthly mortgage payment by one hundred ninety two dollars to seven seven life alone. You'll pay two hundred fifty four thousand six hundred and five dollars which one hundred fifteen thousand twenty four dollars would be interest at in fifty three thousand nine fifty nine and principal and interest. You paid in the five years on the previous mortgage and your total cost would be three hundred eight thousand five hundred sixty four including one hundred and fifty eight five sixty five in interest by refinancing and not only lower your monthly payment significantly long-term savings of fifteen thousand one hundred ninety dollars in interest. How long does it take to refinance a mortgage at time it takes? The refinance depends on your lender as well as how long it takes to complete inspections appraisals credit checks and other requirements but the Internet has generally simplified the process. Many lenders websites allow you to read about different loan. Products COMPARE INTEREST RATES. Fill out loan applications and submit documents within the past few years. Technology has streamline the mortgage process tremendously says Lou the online applications mobile document scanning APPS and easing it's yours borrow can perform most tasks was out printing a single document. Most refinances can be closed within thirty days. Us Bank rates mortgage calculator to compare your own loan scenarios. See what happens. When you input different mortgage terms in years or months reveal the amortization schedules see how much total interest you would pay. Good credit can save you a lot of money on your mortgage again from bank rate DOT com. This article had made some very good points. First of all is the type of mortgage. Are you currently have? Do you have a variable rate mortgage where the interest rate is adjusted up or down depending on what the interest rate is doing from the feds. If that's the case I highly recommend trying to lock in a fixed rate mortgage. The rates are low now so you never know. Maybe they're not going to go up for two or three years but fi in the next five to twenty five years are definitely could go up. Remember when I got my first mortgage it was twelve. And a quarter percent they been on the downhill slide. Ever since that. That's GonNa Change. It's just a matter of time. If you have a balloon mortgage well I would refinance at as soon as possible because in five years is a short period of time. Then you have to refinance it again. It's a good time now. So why not get it done? Also if you have more equity in your house if the value of your house has gone up you got at least twenty percent or more equity in the house if you refinance you'll get out a pan of principle mortgage insurance and that could save you some money. Maybe hundred hundred fifty dollars a month that could go towards the principal or maybe into your pocket. So yeah so there's some good things remember. Look around. Tried to find a lender. That's not gonNA charge you a whole lot of money to refinance. Because they're going to roll that in and increase your debt and that's what you're trying to avoid. The last time I refinance was with the bank that I had my checking and savings account with there was no closing costs at all. It was quick and easy and I got it down a ten year loan with five hundred dollars a month payment so I've been paying on that for a while and I got my balanced down so that really helped out a lot the now let's talk about debt consolidation and. I don't mean by refinancing your home and rolling all your credit card debt in there. Because that's you just setting yourself up for trouble because now you got credit cards that are paid off and unless the mortgage company required you to close those credit cards those cards if they're still open you're to start using them and you can just get right back in the same problems you were before so I highly discourage you from role on your credit card debt into your mortgage as I said before. You don't want your house. As collateral for unsecured debt debt consolidation. If you don't know what that is you're taking out a new loan to pay off old loans and a lot of people do that. The pay off a bunch of high interest rate credit cards and they may get a five year or ten year loan. Maybe through their local bank at a lower rate may be at five or six percent similar to what a car loan would be and that works great a lot of times when they do that though might require you to close down some of those credit cards. Pay Him off and they'll close them down for you. And the long term it could help your credit rating but in a short. Turn your credit ratings. GonNa take a hit and you're going to have less credit cards to us so you're GONNA be forced more into Paying cash and your checks and using your checking account and not going staying within your budget us Cra- guess what I'm trying to get out of there. He it's been a force you to quit live and on those credit cards. Remember Your Plan. Quit creating new debt and by role at over. Maybe you're creating a new debt. But maybe getting rid of four or five old debt could be a good thing. I tried to avoid that. I never done that I never. I never got a term loan and to pay off credit cards. But what I've done in the past is when I got a credit card. Pay Down the zero and they sent me some literature in the mail saying Oh eighteen months interest free no interest for eighteen months no interest for twelve months. It's a balance transfer and credit card or offer. If you have a credit card was zero balance they may off you bounce? Transfer with twelve months or eighteen months no interest but they're going to charge you three percent some charges five percent. I use that and it works great and you can really reduce the amount of interest your pan so if you reduce the amount of interest your pan he got to look at a Kfi transfer two thousand dollars. I pay five percent. It's GonNa cost me. I don't have the math in my head right. This minute is GonNa cost you one hundred dollars. How long is GonNa take you in interest savings to pay that off? I think I figured it out. It was like one and a half months So I want head and I did it. Now you gotta remember if you go past that twelve months grace period or the eighteen months with no interest. They're going to nail you. They're gonNA attack on a whole bunch interest and you want to avoid that only transfer credit card balances to that card for the N. Amount that you can pay off and that time period that they're giving you that grace period say it's a year transfer three thousand dollars over. Make your payments get paid down to zero in the year and Lo and behold you know what they're going to do they're going to send you that same offer again and you can do it again. So that was set a big tip. That's what I use. There's I heard other people other financial experts saying don't do that. It's not a good deal but remember look at what you're paying in interest charging thirty six thirty six percent interest. You're paying a lot in interest if you can get a part of that balance over to know entrace and you can pay it off in that same amount of time that they're giving you then. Why not do it? I did at work good at helped reduce my interest. What happens when you reduce your interest? You pay less you pay less interest you apply more to your balance your principal. So you're GONNA pay more or less interest. It's a snowball effect again. I want to state that. So that's all I have really about. Loan consolidations Than loan cancellation companies. I've never done it. I stay away from them. It's a bad deal they're gonNA charge you. A percentage and on attorney's GONNA file bankruptcy. He's GonNa Force you he's GonNa ask you to pay him before he filed bankruptcy. So I I never did. Bankruptcy never did loan debt cancellation and they make it sound great. But they're going to charge you money. They don't they're not working for free and a debt cancellation companies going to charge you. Fifteen to twenty percent a wet. Yo and then they're gonNA make they want you to pay them I and they're gonNA take their fees first and then I don't know I don't know what happens. But they don't pay those bills and they're gonNA harass you and you got creditors gone. Yeah I don't know if all that's GonNa work out too good that you know fifteen to twenty percent is pretty hill healthy an amount of money especially if you owe twenty thousand dollars. That's like four thousand dollars and that's four thousand dollars. You could use to apply to your to your balance your principal amount and they reduce your that down so with that said. I have an coming up. That's going to talk about Loan consolidation is GONNA explain. It is going to talk about debt cancellation companies and why you should not use them. Truth About debt consolidation Daveramsey DOT COM getting out of debt. The truth about that. Console your deep it. You're in deep with credit cards student. Loan payments and Carlos. Minimum monthly payments are doing the trick. Help next your debt. And your flippant scared. Something has to change. And you're considering debt consolidation because the lower one easy payment and a promise of lower interest. Rates debt sucks but the truth in debt consolidation loans and debt settlement companies suck. Even more they don't help you slay mammoth amount of debt. In fact you end up paying more in staying in debt longer because of so-called consolidation. Get the facts before you consolidate your debt or work with a settlement company. Here are the top things you need to know before you consolidate your debt. Debt consolidation is a refinance loan with extended repayment terms extended repayment terms. Means you're be in debt longer. Lower interest rate isn't always a guarantee when you consolidate debt consolidation doesn't mean debt elimination debt consolidation is different from debt settlement. Both can skim you out. Thousands of dollars what is debt consolidation debt? Consolidation is a combination of several unsecured debts. Payday loans credit cards medical bills into one monthly bill with illusion of a lower interest rate lower monthly payment and simplified debt relief plan. Here's the deal. Debt consolidation promises. One thing but delivers another. That's why the dishonest companies to promote too good to be true debt. Relief programs continued to rank as the top consumer complaint received by the Federal Trade Commission. Here's why should skip debt consolidation an opt? Instead to fall a plan to help she actually win with money. When you consolidate. There's no guarantee you're inches. Rate will be lower the debt consolidation. Loan enter trait is usually set at discretion of the lender or creditor and depends on your past payment behavior in credit score. If you qualify for a loan with low interest note guarantee the rate will stay low. But let's be honest. Your interest rate isn't the main problem. Your spending habits are the problem. Lower interest rates on debt consolidation consolidation loans can change just specifically apply to consolidate debt through credit card balance transfers day enticingly low interest rate is usually an introductory promotion and applies for certain periods of time. Only their rate will eventually go up beyond guard for Special. Low interest deals before or after the holidays. Some companies no holiday shoppers. Who Don't stick to a budget tend to overspend in panic when the bills start coming in and other loan companies were hook you with low interest rates then inflate to interest rate over time leaving you with more debt consolidating. A bills means you'll be in debt longer and almost every case you'll have payments because the term me alone is prolonged extended terms mean. Extend the payments. No thanks. Your goals should get out of debt as fast as you can. Debt consolidation. Loan doesn't mean debt elimination. You're only restructuring. Your debt not eliminating. It you don't need debt resume rage. -Ment you need debt ree F formation. Your behavior is money doesn't change most of the time after sunlen consolidates their debt to Gret debt. Grows back why they don't have a game plan him to pay cash and spend less in other words they haven't instead. I believe good money habits for staying out of debt and building. Wealth behavior hasn't changed so extremely likely that go right back into debt. How does debt consolidation really work? Let's say you have thirty thousand and unsecured debt think credit cards loan car loans and medical bills. The debt includes a two year loan for ten thousand dollars at twelve percent and a four year. Loan for twenty thousand dollars at ten percent. Your monthly payment. A first loan is five hundred seventeen dollars while the second of the payment on the second is five hundred eighty three. That's a total payment of eleven hundred dollars a month. If you make monthly payments on them you'll be out a debt and forty one months and have paid a total of three thirty four thousand eight hundred twenty one dollars consulting company that promised her lawyer payment to six hundred and forty dollars per month and your interest rate is nine percent by negotiating with your creditors enrolling. The two loans into one sounds great. Doesn't it who wouldn't want to pay four and sixty dollars less per month and payments but? Here's the downside. It will now take you fifty eight months to pay off the loan and now the total loan would jump to thirty seven thousand one hundred and three dollars so that means you shout at out. Twenty two eighty two more to pay off the new loan even with the lower interest rate of nine percent. This major lower payment has caused thousands. More two words for you ripped off credit card debt eating your lunch. What's the difference between debt consolidation and debt settlement? There's a huge difference between debt consolidation and debt settlement. Although often at terms are used interchangeably. Pay attention here because these crafty companies will stick it to you. If you're not careful we've already covered consolidation. That's a type of loan that role several unsecured debts and to one single bill debt settlement is different debt. Settlement means you hire company to negotiate a lump sum payment with your creditors for less than what you owe. Debt settlement companies have a charge of fee for their services often the fees anywhere from fifteen to twenty percent of your debt. Think about it this way. If you owe fifty thousand you're settled on fees run range from seventy five hundred ten thousand so basically you're debt would go from fifty thousand to fifty seven thousand or sixty thousand. That's not bad enough fraudulent debt. Settlement companies often tell customers to stop making payments on their debt and instead paid the company wants their fee is accounted for. They promised to negotiate with creditors and settle. Your debts. Sounds great right well. The debt settlement company usually doesn't deliver on helping you with your debt until after they take your money they leave you on the hook for late fees and additional interest payments on debt. They promised to help you pay that. Settlement is a scam and debt relief. Company that charges you before the actually settle reduce. Your debt is in violation of the Federal Trade Commission avoid debt settlement companies at all costs the fastest way to get out that when you consolidate debt or the debt settlement company. You only treat the symptoms of your money problems and never get to the core why you had issue issues in the first place. You don't need to consolidate your bills. You need to pay them off to do that. You had to change the way you view debt. Dave says personal finances eighty percent behavior and only twenty percent head knowledge. Even though your choices landed you and Apollo debt. He had the power to work your way out. You just need the right plan. The solution isn't a quick fix and it won't come in the form of better interest rate another loan or debt settlement. This solution requires. Roll up your sleeves and make a plan. And that's from Dave Ramsey dot com. My thoughts are if you have an unpaid credit card. A credit card with a zero balance and that credit card is offering you balanced transfer were throwing charge at three percent or less than I'd take advantage of it if they're gonNA give you a year to eighteen months to pay for it and I'm assuming that you got your spending under control and you're not GonNa go wild and you've got to be able to pay that off in that time period where the interest rates are still zero and remember go back and look at how much interest you going to save and how long it's GonNa take you the pay that that balance transfer fee off by paying less than interests new episodes are released weekly subscribed so he can follow. Mr Chuck's journey to reduce debt and financial freedom. As you do the same if you liked his podcast please share.

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