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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

Rock N Roll Archaeology

01:34 min | 2 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

"Album. Should be done. You can listen to it from the first song all the way to the last song now. They did release. When was the last ten fifteen years and expanded version featuring every unique some that they did over the multiple nuts the country? You get that I did. And it's got like California man down stiff competition on top of the World Caroline. They did the out leadership in the end it so they did an unbelievable set of live music. I can only imagine what it was like to experience it so you never got chance to see cheap trick play at any stage. Play up four times live here in Philadelphia over the last. How long have you been here? Eighteen years now and I actually got to shake hands with everybody in the band when they played barbecue and they were really nice. Guys inseparably mad at different drummer balloon wasn't let them. There was a question of is going to ask because I'm not really quite short chronology but I know that there's been some bad blood between Bunny Carlos and the rest of the bank so you never get a chance to see him. Perform live with them. Now it's always been without him. In fact I remember the first thing that I ever read about. The band was in a modern drummer magazine. It's when I did an interview. Carlos and it just made me laugh because in that day and age where so many bands were wearing long hair and the popular perception of the Rock Star in his guy with the business suit and tie coming down the hanging out of his mouth. He looks like he's heading home for sculpture a beer and yet he wants to run the drums on. Lebanon. That resist..

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

Rock N Roll Archaeology

04:00 min | 2 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

"As a musician myself. It's it's one of those songs that I just go. Yeah there's just no way that's ever GonNa Happen in my life. We can do what we can do. Yeah there's another song. Oh okay maybe I'll play parts of mood for a day. You could probably do. I've seen all good people you know. And then you get into things like close to the edge again at the end. The last song on onsite six is starship trooper. Three pieces life secret. Disillusion and of course worm which anybody who's even picked up guitar has probably played a thousand times. This is not related to yes songs that no years later when I bought myself a copy of Modern Drummer magazine and they had an article Ellen wife and the head of transcription of owner of a lonely. Half which doesn't matter. It's up conflicts of author reading that book. I can play something. Yeah so you just was formative to me. I'll let you in on a little secret because you know we're all stuck in quarantine here been a month now and the family is kind of running out of net flix to watch so my wife said well you know. What else can we do? And my twenty year old son made me by a dungeons and dragons starter kits. So we we've taught my wife who like is like the least geeky person in the world to play dungeons and dragons and by the way she understands and loves it and gets it so. I'm very thankful for that but I of course I'm playing Dungeon Masters and you know once you're the dungeon master. Everybody basically has to do whatever you say are you could kill them right so my playlist While we play Dungeons and dragons. This is basically all my so. I've been able to introduce them to close to the edge. Lamb lies down on Broadway and then the kid decided he wanted to play twenty one twelve from us so it's been a very progressive rock. I mean can you ask for better music to play dentists and dragons with I? Think it's the soundtrack done it's it's certainly any final thoughts about yes songs that you wish to convey to that listenership. Is this an album that you would say for the casual? Yes fan or someone food should be the yeah. It really does show just how good of musicians they were and most are still with us. Thank God rip. Chris Squire. It just fits in this time. You know it's an interesting arc- with rock and roll in that. Is You began in the early days in the nineteen fifties? It simple three chords picked up blues country folk. You know it's kind of stays that way The Beatles begin to change things and they're the really the first progressive rock band right and so they build this structure that the point is is to take it as far as you can to incorporate all these other musical elements their craft. And you know when they leave the scene. Then it's no surprise that the the next iteration is this progressive rock scene. That comes out of that. Which takes it to the instagram. To the point of ridiculousness and of course there's the inevitable backlash that's my second favorite music type. Which is punk you know so so there. You go both ends of the spectrum. You like country and western and thank you so much Christine for coming into the show in a wonderful conversation about your head. One on this show yet might have to have something a little bit more product somewhere down the line for a full two hours to there. You go yeah yeah because you know if you go down prog you know. Yeah you're talking for our shows or more intake never understood as people there who say I want the show finished by the time I get from my door to my office door. You have to stop and you can pick it up again. Listener hardcore history. That's a five hour plus Yo you know so. We'll be back in a moment. You'll listen to love that album episode one hundred and fifty.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Drum History

Drum History

14:10 min | 3 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Drum History

"Let's let's go way back and and I do want to mention to before we go back and talk about the beginning of modern drummer. I saw you speak at the Chicago drum show last year when I think was very close to your coming on board and And it was great. Saves very impressive was that I came on as publisher then and then recently Added Co two. My role will congratulations. I think huge I mean like you said it's just. It's the Bible for drummers. I mean it is it is an. It's earned that it's not like It just sort of happened. I mean it's been a long time so You're the man in charge now. Why don't you tell us a little bit about the history of the magazine going back into the seventies and And how it started and has as much as you can can lay on us. Well Ron SPAG Nardi. God bless him. He and his wife Isabelle started modern Drummer magazine. Ron had the idea In you know the the early seventies for years he had this idea that he wanted to create a drum magazine where everybody could congregate in the drumming world. We didn't have anything like that. And so on so many levels. It's it's so necessary and he created it out of their basement. Launched Modern Drummer. It was nineteen. Seventy seven was the first issue Buddy rich volume one number one. Of course buddy. Of course how appropriate the magazines just took off and it became an is today the top brand in what people know in the drumming world. I literally was a question on jeopardy. You know what magazine do. Drummers read And Modern Drummer. It's unbelievable so it's really it's really earned as you said. It's reputation is the number one brand in the world of of what unifies and educates informs and updates drummers when someone is in modern drummer drummers. Either on the cover or feature. Seguin winning an academy award annually. You're forty three years into modern drummer. You know that's almost half a century and that's we are the only drumming resource that's completely neutral. That's been around that long. That is this trusted and has so many different tentacles to every issue that we publish all of the digital that we curate where it's unbiased and it's versatile so in one issue of modern drummer you read about your favorite drummers or drummers that will become your favorite drummers or you read about your peers you read about what guys are up to read about the current hottest skier you read about the current and hottest products and As well as like you know. Cd streaming music. That's out in video. That's out now Drummers Online percussionist Drum Corps Jazz Rock Metal Latin you name it and You get a lot of education you know. So there's a lot of exercises and a lot of really great insight so one issue takes you weeks to really get through We'VE PRICED IT. So they literally one trip to starbucks and you have an entire month of modern drummer online. All forty three years in the archive as well as the current issue. I mean it's six ninety five a month thrall access We made it insanely affordable. Because we WANNA continue to grow in. Have all drummers? Be a part of this. Because that's how the magazines got to the point. It's at now is drumming. Community wants a needs in respects the fact that there is a voice for their community. There one place that they can trust. And they know that what they see what they learn is valid. You can't say that about any any place else especially the Internet of. There's a lot of theories a lot of ideas out there. But what you get a modern drummers the real deal and And if you were to go out on the Internet you would spend way more time than seven bucks a month no matter who you are what you're doing To put together everything that we hand to to a drummer in one issue. We already go through the process of okay. What's the newest here? What are the newest releases who the hottest drummers who were the drummers that are icons but are doing new things right now who's come onto the scene who's left the world and we need to acknowledge You know who's you know plan studio or to do some cool gangs whose releasing signature series product on and on and to curate. That takes a team one of the best teams in the world of season pros at modern drummer. Full-time WORK FOR US on staff. So one person going out there and try and do that on their own would be you know a big waste of time because we already do it for you and we do it really well. And I think that's how the magazine as got to the point where both in print and digital it is still number one in the world by far and the interesting thing is I when I was in NAM recently You know this was the fact that a lot of people were surprised about it and paused in realized. Oh yeah that makes a Lotta sense and that is our print. Product is bigger than ever drummers. Love to hold Modern Drummer magazine. You would think instinctively because the news print world has become so commoditised and just the general infrastructure for obtaining print product newsstands and bookstores. And all of that are just going away as fast as you blink. But modern drummer print is bigger than ever amazing. Of course most of those people are through subscriptions rights have to. Why would you go to a newsstand when you for your truly a? Bach you can get it delivered to your house And it's It's amazing it's how strong as and when I was at NAM and I was sharing that at first a lot of people were like well while that that kind of bucks the trend and then I would ask them well. Do you read modern drummer. Everybody said yes. Thank you and I asked will. Do you have your back issues or do you read it. Throw it out and I'm telling you not one person said they throw the magazine out and that was the moment like y. You know what I do. I have a stack of modern drummers and I do use them as a as a resource and I do enjoy keeping them Some people put the covers on their wall. Some people you know. Take pictures of him. Some people use them for social media. I mean there's so many incredible things you can do with it of course holding magazine and having the notation to be able to write on it And put it on a music stand or photocopy page to us on a Gig or a practice room. There's just it's endless so really. It's really great. How the magazine? It's print product and of course all the things we're doing on digital because the magazine started his life. Strictly print nineteen seventy seven. That's all there was. Ron Innovated a lot of things you know he innovated drum festivals. The modern drummer festival was always a huge deal. We're going to bring those back Sands huge digital. We've revamped our entire digital world. Where what we're covering and all of that for subscribers right what? We're covering what we're putting on our website while putting You know through all of our different channels is just incredibly helpful and insightful. Two drummers absolutely so personally I have a little like been every year as a kid you know. It'd be Christmas present. Here's your modern drummer subscription for this year here it is for this year so I have and years and years of him and what I do is I take like if I'm going on a trip or something Obviously have the new one that I've read but I'll take an old one because I love just looking back in two thousand one in two thousand five whenever and just seeing what was happening then and like you said nothing is ever like out of date. Maybe the technology has changed but even then coming from my angle of the history of things. You can look at it and go. Wow that's changed a lot or that technology I didn't know that company existed then or are all these things so And another thing I think is cool is I think in a lot of a lot of forms of media. People don't like advertising and go. Oh you know you're watching Hulu or whatever it's like here's another ad I enjoy looking at the drum adds to see who's endorsing what and I think that's a really rare thing with With drumming and it's even with the modern drummer podcast where I hearing. Who's spotlight like dream symbols as always a sponsor I like hearing that because It's it's our industry. It's an industry magazine. Which is what it is so so. It's kind of cool to see like okay. Vinnie's plan Piketty now whoa cool you know you. It keeps you in the loop even on that level so if you can have your advertising be something that I'm interested in I think that's that's huge. You know well I couldn't agree with you more The fact is that the ads are as much of interest to drummers like you described as as the content in the magazine as they go hand in hand. We drummers love to see who's playing what we love the creativity of the ads I mean think. About how many ads are so iconic that buddy rich playing the Tuba on the Zil Jihad? You know from the indies eighties. If I couldn't play Zilja nights switch instruments buddy sitting there with a Tuba of there's just so many iconic ads and I'm you know I really truly. I really truly hope that that get comes back bigger and stronger than ever and I hope that as as the manufacturers have see changes inside of their organizations and younger people or different people come in to their organizations who may not have the history to see to have seen those ads and know what we're talking about in how who'll impactful they are. I hope that that catches up and I hope that that you know on all sides of it. It comes back in a moderate way right. We don't WanNa see the same ads from the seventies and eighties. Nobody thinks that but the same the same emotion when you know when you a lot of companies really get what we're talking about and then there's a few out there that really don't get it they don't they don't understand that when a drummer sees you know Mike Portnoy behind this amazing one of a kind drum get and he in they see you know Tom of the strongest name in drums And you know that that has a huge impact that if they don't see another ad or they see another ad is just a picture of drum kit or two picture of you know some something really simple and basic kind of year like A. There's no comparison than the emotion. What that's going to do to the drummer's decision man. I've never thought about that. That is so true. Well I mean the endorsement in drumming is so important of oh. I love that drummer A he plays d-w now. I want to grow up in by. Dwi I remember seeing the drummer from system of a down when I was like thirteen. And he was playing Thomas Star classics. And then my first real kit that I bought was star. Classic Kit so it. Just is like we're impressionable. I mean you know because drummers come up especially when you're twelve or thirteen big time we we liked gear so We do and we love an MD. Wsa great you know just happens to be one of the best drum drums in the world. And what a what an incredible Incredible Incredible Company But it's but you're right. They you know we drummers love this we love seeing who's not only who but how what and you know what modern drummers been focusing on and we've ratcheted up considerably earn stay home right now is bringing content. That's applicable to right now. So I'll give you an example. I'm personally doing a fifteen day series one day for fifteen days. That's basically like a minute or two long and it's a exercise. Each day is a different exercise out of a really really well known book either Master Studies or New Breed Dharma Lowers. It's your move and Annum focusing on a specific exercise or set of basic exercises where demonstrate them video notation based? I tell you exactly what book will work out of. What page I show you the transcription on screen. I play it and describe it. This is what you do was supposed to satellite and these are incredible shop builders that in one to two minutes you can understand the exercise and then go practice it all day as long as you want. Whenever I'm halftime. WanNa Make Time. And then the next day it'll be something new for fifteen days and in we're going to keep them up of course online so people could go back and do the fifteen days or any any one of the days whenever they want..

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Drum History

Drum History

12:16 min | 3 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Drum History

"Your host Bart van der Zee and today. I am very honored to be joined by David. Francioni the publisher of Modern Drummer magazine. David how are you? I'm doing great. Thank you Barak. Great to be here everyone And it's An and as I said that I was thinking you have a lot of different titles. I mean you are an audio engineer. You work in studios. You're an author You've got all sorts of cool stuff on. You're you're a busy man yes You know a lot of things happening and They all interconnect even though it may not look like it at the surface and I know that Many of the things I do are fulltime jobs for a lot of people But I've found a way to combine all of these different passions that I have into a career and And it's you know it's amazing very very blessed very grateful. Yeah I think It's probably across guitar and Bass but I think musicians are really good about making things work for them like if you like audio engineering and drumming you can put it together and find out. Find a way to make that work So well in their hand in glove as well right think about how much CH- Audio engineering comes into play to be a part of what you do I mean. You're you're an engineer Drummer Yuppie. You know that those are very very useful powerful musical tools to have you know from a technology and an audio engineering input yet and I think now more than ever because we live in an era where you can't just say. Oh I'm an engineer. You can't say I'm a tracking engineer. I'm a mixing engineer. Hire me you basically. I think for a lot of people. What makes them stick out his? Oh also good after-effects or I'm also good with Photoshop. And it's like Ooh you stand out you have an extra little something. So it's it's you know as a drummer. It helps to know able ten into no pro tools so well I agree with that Bart and I'd like to expand So that everybody can take away from this time. We're spending together some really valuable things that they can apply to their own life and one right now Is You have to be a multitasker When we talked a minute ago about all the different types of careers I have and and and all the different businesses CETERA. It all stemmed from very early on like literally before I was a teenager. I was starting to see playing the music business at such a young age as a drummer. Having very big aspirations I was starting to see even that young eleven twelve plan in clubs and playing in bands. That if you put all your eggs in one basket it's not only very scary for making a living but it's also very limiting to how far you can take your your goals your art. So it's twofold we've got to be able to make a living to be pros in what we do and in order to do that. You know when a project comes along you have to be ready enable to do it. I also believe you should be passionate about. It shouldn't just be about having a career path to make money. It should be about finding career pads that you're really passionate about and they're really important to you. They almost do for free. If you could make a living otherwise And that for you and when you combine some of those you know you just really turned into a professional that has a lot to offer any project so if you just look at the example of a drummer engineer Which you know if we go back Dave wackle to me. One of the greatest drummers ever will always be one of the greatest drummers ever and I followed his career from when he was in Bridgeport Connecticut commuting to New York City and starting to make noise in New York City With French toast and and the whole way through and in my point in doing in following his career and understanding that is he was always multitasking. Even though he was one of the world's greatest drummers and becoming one at that time he learned about latronic she learned about sound he learned about the studio and all of these different talents that he didn't just have an awareness of but he actually worked on it and an expertise in them. That really took it to another level so now you have one of the world's greatest drummers gets great sound understands the studio can collaborate with the team live or in the studio on. Hey I think we should do this or that to get a better drum sound and it's just such a powerful combination to launch and have a career from so that's what I I'd like to really encourage everyone hearing us today. Take a look at where you're at if you're already doing two or three things And you and you love what? They're what you know what they are. You may still have a long way to go in terms of following The pursuit of them growing your ability within them but point is that you know if you're if you're good with what you're doing and where you know what the combination is then from there. Don't stop grow learn. Put yourself in uncomfortable situations so you can really grow even faster and if you don't do that if you're if you're someone right now listening to us and you're doing one thing just beware that you know it's it's you're limiting yourself for no reason and And you're really in a position where you're not being conservative enough in a music related business or most businesses for that matter if something should go sideways Or a project should come along that you need to be able to do one more thing to get It'll be too late so do it on now and I think that's really important. I'll tell you guys a really interesting story when I first started working with band. Arrowsmith which I've now been working with them since one thousand nine hundred eighty nine thirty one years. I think and when it when I first started I was doing a lot of technology work and I remember The Guy saying to me you know. Look Technology's really important to us. We have a lot of need for what you're doing but we also need you know other aspects of of the studio help you know. You'll engineer on this day or You know do you know work on the console another day or you know fly samples another day whatever and And I remember thinking to myself in. This was all like in a split second because it was a very it was a real time conversation. I remember thinking I've got to push myself like they would describing some things that I had. I didn't have a lot of experience at that time. Some of the things. I was already very very accomplished in other things. I was learning and And I made the call to like really jump into a scary as hell because I'm working for my idols. At that time it was the biggest GIG that I had. I had some great credits prior to our but but not long-term credits they were just like you know. I went and worked with Elton John for week. Right in the projects over. And you know that was that But with our Smith was ongoing so it was very very scary to kind of look at this amazing Group heroes a mind this opportunity and it was. You know as amazing. Yeah I mean everything you're saying is so true and you're faced with those moments where you think like it just makes you like your heart. I don't know if I can do this. You new task comes but I always think that's like a benchmark like the after that you go okay. Well it can't be as hard as that last. You know at that point monumental task so you really like I just think everything builds up like everything gets easier after you do those. Your next mega thing that you're super nervous about whatever. It is a big session that you're not the you're out of your element on your alone you're doing. You've always been an assistant now. You're doing it alone right. Everything's easier adults growth moments. Yes milestones like checkpoints. I mean it's just it's it's a huge thing so everything is so reluctant Bart in the moment the aftermath is what you're describing. It's a huge. Transformation was life changing but in the moment is no less scary. And it's almost. There's almost an equation. Where the scarier it is. The bigger the outcome will be. I think that That's that's what you've got to remember it so much easier to say than do but you gotta do it. You can't just say you gotTa do it She only way you grow. We could use a million examples. We want to use a very simple one. I think everybody gets it at this point but if we want to use a simple one you go to the gym. You know you work your muscles and until you're sore and then you stop and then you recover in whole process whether you realize it or not as you breaking your muscles down and you're actually you know you're working them in that way. It's the same thing in this race. Where you're you're actually breaking your feet. Your fear out yeah totally. I'm a big believer in And I always think about this to myself. I'm like man if I started to say like even you know playing the drums for all right if I started playing guitar like two years ago. Imagine where I would be at now. I would be two years deep like no matter. How old you are if you start now. Yeah fast forward. Two years you're going to be great but if you don't start then you'll be no further along in. That's obvious but again I always even with exercise or whatever you just gotTa start so will you wrote a mile and starting is so easy to talk about. But you know there's a lot of people always have a reason And they don't even realize they have a reason you know I. I see a lot of people that come to me for advice in I'll I'll cons- you know one of the things that I do is making a living as consultants and so people hire me to You Know Give Them. Guidance advice on many different levels for many different views usually around music entertainment business almost exclusively but nonetheless The ideas are very similar where someone will come to me. And I'll do a deep dive and really start to unfold like what's going on and they won't even realize how they just let distractions rule and they don't even see the distractions as distractions. But they just get to the end of the day and they go while you know like I'm I'm not anywhere I haven't started anything. Maybe I put my little foot in in the in the pond but for five minutes. But I really haven't done anything. And it's all these little distractions all these little things that it's all fear Just holding people back and it's disguised in many forms. But you know you really starting is underrated. You know you really have to get out there and start. So that's our advice. Now you and I are really aligned on modern drummer right. The number one dramatic Zine in the world that I had the privilege of becoming publisher and CEO of Fairly recently and It is the Drumming Bible. It is established in nineteen seventy seven And here we are in this moment. I hope this You know the stay home Goes away soon. People can get back to work in and be healthy and safe But if people are listening to this especially during a stay home moment You know we just got a lot to share and bring value to their lives with today. I'm very excited. Bart. Yeah absolutely so..

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

07:33 min | 3 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"Morning show on KNBR just for the hell you think you're doing all these podcast I've been thinking about this make it our everybody is going to be interesting man it's Friday March thirteenth Friday the thirteenth that's that's one year next Friday the thirteenth with a life threatening virus you've got the makings of a really interesting podcast of the Polly Mack a podcast network if I may creator Tony my left empty chair to my right listen I own charted territory I don't know what we're gonna talk about don't know how long we're going to talk about I don't know how long we'll be doing anything at this point but as of today Friday the thirteenth March thirteenth we're still in the lead in the building we're still in the studios I think that could change next week sounds like were in the process of maybe equipping some of the houses with some some some wine some calmer excellent I don't think a layman does it that means but that just means basically hooking up homes for broadcast so until that happens Tony have a feeling we're just days away from that first of all Paul hello hi there and now you said that about twenty seconds ago listen so when we get a researcher involved listen the massive on all of it listen collaborate and listen listen the same the solution to the Hey listen this is yeah I don't know yesterday I caught myself Stephen King the stand do you know I mean though okay you know these on that no deal dean Koontz yeah unknown who's in the Stephen King realm yeah basically J. Ole Ole and the CZ yes cool he had a book out in nineteen eighty one crawled the eyes of darkness okay and here's why do you think I deserve darkened here's two excerpts from that book ahead in nineteen eighty one go ahead every go in around twenty twenty no a severe pneumonia like illness will spread throughout the globe awesome attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes Assam and resisting all known treatments great almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanished as quickly as it arrived attack again later so that's one excerpt yeah yes exerting Koontz dean Koontz nineteen eighty one yeah Carol dean for me D. E. A. N. I'm just restaurant okay now I don't think I like dean warmer yeah yeah okay they call the staff will Honda four hundred because it was developed at their R. D. N. A. labs outside of the city of wool on and it was for it was the four hundredth viable strain of man made micro organisms created at that research center these are the ones that are me did not know what's going on anymore but okay and I'm gonna take a little detour here feature only reason I know this or basically anything in life is through music yeah one way or another so the late but what if what if just be pissed what a full year twenty twenties been somehow don't cry I got Neil Peart checking out I I got helicopters going down but it was shaping up to be an incredible I got Albro is almost like a feast day it was a musical feast fit for a king yeah I had primus I had oyster head I had room pearl jam ahead jazz fest the store all your water honors I got power I got I got but I got freaking god Klinghoffer opening for a Pearl Jam anyway yes when Neil Peart was alive in drumming Houston's I give interviews and stuff like to more if I could modern drummer magazine nice modern drummer magazine right away as a teenager he got all the gear is a can I use Thomas drums I use Elgin symbols with one exception he goes I use all mu Han China boy No Way there is a company called mu hand symbols is it a smaller semiannual China is the one that's flipped upside down in a trash can kind of like this it's got like a really quick to K. but he had a great sound it back then they call them China boy I think now they call in China type but in any case they were called Wuhan so I actually have a little bit of Wuhan knowledge in prior to the virus well and everything else but anyway it's been really weird time what we gonna do I mean what are you what you I would let you know that what the sports world has shut down completely and then it pretty soon the world I think is going to shut down I think so too I think it has to happen that's why I like there are so many inconsistencies like I'm starting to get mad I was getting pissed off at the NC double a yesterday I'm pissed I'm not going to force you know post Malone did in the Reno show in Denver last night and people went fifteen thousand people went well get a tattoo on your face so you wonder moon at the end if you're gonna put yourself in harm's way like that then I can't help you post Malone Hey at least make it in the performer worthwhile sorry I listen to you don't have to worry about that with me but I'm not going to I'm not going to go out of my way to defend post Malone is the poly honest to god to you and I never seen anything like it was working on nine eleven and it's this is the only the only thing I can compare to working interest because working in radio when these events happen yeah I is just different than working in other types of genres of work well you know in in in a worst case scenario the radio is the last source of communication I remember I was told by my boss at the time Bob Agnew you're coming into work it is your civic duty yeah it's like that's a broadcast to the masses of what's going on yeah and we are now he he said we are no longer a sports station today we are a news station yeah to provide the news well you need that and you know that's what we did and now that's what we've been doing this week although many kudos to you amber fall week you did a great job entertaining hello I have some weird shows I've ever done I don't know what to feel about any of it like that it's a good thing that we don't know how to do this right yeah if we knew how to you know do this that means we would have already been through it once more yeah so that's a good thing I will say that you know we ended the Pappas said it perfectly I don't preach Greg Papa yeah he said we need to overreact not under react well there are still some people that are under reacting out here my sister is in Arizona right now for the month of and she said no one's even talking about it and make it my wife Megan deals with general contractors in Texas and she said no but they're like what it do you guys are really worried about that that well that virus thing well it's not easy the different parts of the country who are not even the other thing is the thing this crazy man is like people you and I could have the virus and not even not even know like that's the thing people are carrying this thing around they don't even know they have it and then that's the deal with lace that is why we need to socially yeah yeah yeah actually from older if your post Malone they have a really shows Hey man yeah it might be willing to well I better not I was gonna say like I'd be willing to risk my life to hear him play or does he or did you hear him lip sync that's all yeah these social eyes of the I..

KNBR Polly Mack
"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

07:46 min | 4 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"Polly Mack of K. N. P. R.'s Murph and mac morning show on KNBR born in the hell do you think you're doing all these fine cast I've been thinking about this making our everybody is going to be interesting man it's Friday March thirteenth Friday the thirteenth that's that's one you next Friday the thirteenth with a life threatening virus you've got the makings of a really interesting podcast of the Polly Mack a podcast network if I may creator Tony my left empty chair to my right listen I only charted territory I don't know what we're gonna talk about don't know how long we're going to talk about I don't know how long we'll be doing anything at this point but as of today Friday the thirteenth March thirteenth we're still at the look at the building we're still in the studios I think that could change next week sounds like were in the process of maybe equipping some of the houses with some some some wine some calmer excellent I don't think a layman does it that means but that just means basically hooking up homes for broadcast so until that happens Tony have a feeling we're just days away from that first of all Paul hello hi there and now you said that about twenty seconds ago listen so when we get a researcher involved listen together led to massive on all it wasn't listen collaborate and listen listen the same the solution to the this is yeah I don't know yesterday I caught myself Stephen King the stand do you know I mean though okay okay these on that no deal dean Koontz other unknowns who's in the Stephen King realm yeah basically J. Ole Ole and this easy yes oops he had a book out in nineteen eighty one crawled the eyes of darkness okay and here's why didn't he I is it dark and here's two excerpts from that book ahead in nineteen eighty one go ahead every go in around twenty twenty yeah a severe pneumonia like illness will spread throughout the globe awesome attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes Assam and resisting all known treatments great almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it was suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived attack again later so that's one answer yeah yes exerting Koontz dean Koontz nineteen eighty one yeah Carol dean for me D. E. A. N. I'm just restaurant okay now I got a guy like dean warmer yeah yeah okay they call the staff will Honda four hundred because it was developed at their R. D. N. A. labs outside of the city of wool on and it was for it was the four hundredth viable strain of man made micro organisms created at that research center Weisel anyone better at me did not only what's going on anymore but I believe it's a good I'm gonna take a little detour here feature only reason I know this or basically anything in life is through music yeah one way or another so the late but what if what if just this what a full year twenty twenties been somehow don't cry I got Neil Peart checking out I I got helicopters going down but it was shaping up to be an incredible I got it was almost like a feast day it was a musical feast fit for a king yeah I had primus I had oyster head I had ma'am pearl jam ahead jazz fest the store under water honors like Apollo I got I got but I got freaking god Klinghoffer opening for a Pearl Jam anyway yes when Neil Peart was alive in drumming Houston's I give interviews and stuff like to more if I could modern drummer magazine's nice modern drummer magazine read was a teenager during that always carries a get used on the drums I use Elgin symbols with one exception he goes I use all wool hand China boy now there is a company called lu Han symbols is it a smaller simply add your son is the one that's flipped upside down in like a trash can go to like us it's got a really quick to K. but he had a great sound it back then they call them China boy I think now they call in China type player in any case they were called Wuhan so I actually have a little bit of Wuhan knowledge required to the virus well and everything else anyway it's been really weird time what we gonna do I mean what are you what you I would let you know that what the sports world has shut down completely and then it pretty soon the world I think is going to shut down I think so too I think it has to happen that's why I like there are so many inconsistencies like I'm starting to get mad I was getting pissed off at the NC double a yesterday I'm pissed off like what you know post Malone did in the Reno show in Denver last night and people went fifteen thousand people when we'll get a tattoo on your face and then if you're gonna put yourself in harm's way like that then I can help you post Malone Hey at least make it as a performer worthwhile sorry I listen to you don't have to worry about that with me but I'm not going to I'm not going to go out of my way to defend posted on these the poly honest to god to you and I never seen anything like you and I were both working on nine eleven and that's this is the only the only thing I can compare to working interest because working in radio when these events happen yeah it is just different than working in other types of genres of work well you know in in in a worst case scenario the radio is the last source of communication I remember I was told by my boss at the time Bob Agnew you're coming into work it is your civic duty ads like that to broadcast to the masses of what's going on yeah and we are now he said we are no longer a sports station today we are a news station yeah to provide the news well you need that and you know that's what we did and now that's what we've been doing this week although many kudos to you and Murphy all week you did a great job entertaining while now hello I have some weird shows I've ever done I don't know what to feel about any of it like that it's a good thing that we don't know how to do this right yeah if we knew how to you know do this that means we would have already been through it once more yeah so that's a good thing I will say that you know we ended with Papa said it perfectly I don't preach Greg Papa yeah he said we need to overreact not under react well there are still some people that are under reacting out here my sister is in Arizona right now for the month of and she said no one's even talking about it and make it my wife Megan deals with general contractors in Texas and she said no but they're like wait what if you guys are really worried about that that well that virus thing well it's not easy the different parts of the country who are not even the other thing is the thing this crazy man is like people you and I could have the virus and not even not even know like that's the thing people are carrying this thing around they don't even know they have it and then that's the deal with lace that is why we need to socially yeah yeah yeah actually from older if your post Malone you have the real shows Hey man yeah I'd be willing to well I better not get say like I'd be willing to risk my life to hear him play or does he ever did you hear him lip sync that's all yeah these social eyes of the I. would you risk your who would you risk your life for a music question one last show alive everything's on the line like if somebody living or some with the living for now wow.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

10:10 min | 4 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"I've been thinking about this for five years make it our everybody is going to be interesting man it's Friday March thirteenth Friday the thirteenth that's that's one you makes Friday the thirteenth with a life threatening virus you've got the makings of a really interesting podcast of the Polly Mack a podcast network if I may creative Tony my left empty chair to my right listen I own Jordan territory I don't know what we're gonna talk about don't know how long we're going to talk about I don't know how long we'll be doing anything at this point but as of today Friday the thirteenth March thirteenth we're still in the lead in the building we're still in the studios I think that could change next week sounds like were in the process of maybe equipping some of the houses with some some some wine some calmer excellent I don't think a layman those of that means but that just means basically hooking up homes for broadcast so until that happens Tony have a feeling we're just days away from that first of all Paul hello hi there and now you said that about twenty seconds ago listen so when we get a researcher involved listen the massive on all of it listen collaborate and listen the same listen to the this is yeah I don't know yes yeah I caught myself Stephen King the stand do you know info again okay these on that no deal dean Koontz other unknowns who's in the Stephen King realm yeah basically K. Ole Ole and the CZ yes cool he had a book out in nineteen eighty one crawled the eyes of darkness okay and here's what I do he I he's a darkened here's two excerpts from that book ahead in nineteen eighty one go ahead every go in around twenty twenty yeah a severe pneumonia like illness will spread throughout the globe awesome attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes awesome and resisting all known treatments great almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived attack again later so that's one excerpt yeah yes exerting Koontz dean Koontz nineteen eighty one yeah Carol dean for me D. E. A. N. I'm just restaurant okay now I got a guy like dean warmer yeah yeah okay they call this stuff Wuhan four hundred because it was developed at their R. D. N. A. labs outside of the city of wool on and it was for it was the four hundredth viable strain of man made micro organisms created at that research center Weisel anyone better at me did not only what's going on anymore but it's a good I'm gonna take a little detour here fairly only reason I know this or basically anything in life is through music yeah one way or another so the late what what what just be pissed what a full year twenty twenties been somehow don't cry I got Neil Peart checking out I I got helicopters going down but it was shaping up to be an incredible I don't it was almost like a feast day it was a musical feast fit for a king yeah I had primus I had oyster head I had room pearl jam I had jazz fest the store all your water honors I got power I got I got but I got freaking god Klinghoffer opening for a Pearl Jam anyway yes when Neil Peart was alive in drumming Houston's I give interviews and stuff like to more if I could modern drummer magazine nice modern drummer magazine wrote as a teenager he got all the gear is a can I use Thomas drums I use Elgin symbols with one exception he goes I use all wool hand China boy No Way there is a company called blue hand symbols is it a smaller simply add your son is the one that's flipped upside down in a trash can kind of like this it's got a really quick to K. but he had a great sound it back then they call them China boy I think now they call in China type player in any case they were called Wuhan so I actually have a little bit of Wuhan knowledge required to the virus well and everything else but anyway it's been a really weird time what are we gonna do I mean what are you what I would let you know that right the sports world has shut down completely and then it pretty soon the world I think is going to shut down I think so too I think it has to happen that's why like there's so many inconsistencies like I'm starting to get mad I was getting pissed off at the NC double a yesterday I'm pissed off you know post Malone did in the Reno show in Denver last night and people went fifteen thousand people went well get a tattoo on your face and then if you're gonna put yourself in harm's way like that then I can't help you post Malone Hey at least make it in the performer worthwhile sorry I listen to you don't have to worry about that with me but I'm not going to I'm not going to go out of my way to defend postman is not obviously poly honest to god to you and I never seen anything like you and I were both working on nine eleven and that's this is the only the only thing I can compare to working interest because working in radio when these events happen yeah I is just different than working in other types of genres of work well you know in in in a worst case scenario the radio is the last source of communication I remember I was told by my boss at the time Bob Agnew you're coming into work it is your civic duty yeah it's like that to broadcast to the masses of what's going on yeah and we are now he said we are no longer a sports station today we are a news station yeah to provide the news well you need that and you know that's what we did and now that's what we've been doing this week although many kudos to you and Murph all week you did a great job entertaining while now hello I have some weird shows I've ever done I don't know what to feel about any of it like that it's a good thing that we don't know how to do this right yeah if we knew how to you know do this that means we would have already been through it once more yeah so that's a good thing I will say that you know we ended with Papa said it perfectly I don't preach Greg Papa yeah he said we need to overreact not under react well there are still some people that are under reacting out here my sister is in Arizona right now for the month of and she said no one's even talking about it and make it my wife Megan deals with general contractors in Texas and she said no but they're like wait what if you guys are really worried about that that well that virus thing well it's not easy the different parts of the country who are not even the other thing is the thing this crazy man is like people you and I could have the virus or not even though you know like that's the thing people are carrying this thing around they don't even know they have it and then that's the deal with lace has what you need to socially users yeah yeah yeah if your post Malone you have the real shows Hey man yeah I'd be willing to it well I better not I was gonna say like I'd be willing to risk my life to hear him play or does he agreed to hear him lip sync that's all yeah these social ice of the only risk here who would you risk your life for a music question one last show alive everything's on the line like if somebody living or some with the living for now wow that is a really really knowing that you might walk in a and you might catch a fatal disease or hold on I'm gonna respect maybe get out Scot free who don't pass any Jay's around that's one no you can't passing the thing around novel one fan per seating section there just like you know I mean like you know like just shouted dues over the next section I mean this is this is I don't have an answer for you number one yeah and number two yesterday I found myself literally thinking because you know whenever I've ever had a dream where literally you're dreaming in inside your dream you're like oh I know I'm dream I love that and I mean I don't know I'm gonna wake up soon I love you ever actually that's like supreme power of the mind I've had that yeah and yesterday I was thinking a dream within a dream if I may yes yeah exactly yeah dream of me yeah so this is all a dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago nice you know I mean that's what I was thinking though like okay this has to be a dream this has to be done to say no the thrill of a pandemic demi it's it's a pandemic it's bonkers horrific we to rific disease does but if we don't get many don't even okay no no you're right what about a cell again but he's given us any good leadership you know zero you know I mean zero leaders I got more leadership for many vendors press release than anybody else question shot any better I'm so sorry to miss these guys and I hope that I shot a pro gym there are dates for pro gym that are on sale today for in September the Hana festival down in Dana point California keep talking Eddie Vedder as a solo set on Saturday program as a full set on Sunday yeah so it's a festival on the beach all southern California magic my morning jacket's plan on Friday I mean this is in late September so hopefully they'll this will go down what's your gut on this Tony generally it's just the it's just begun I think it's going to get much worse before it gets and how many I don't see is some projections here he's not happy as ever port the the the venture you see is that doctors are like a summit yesterday now and they put out like bullet points of the report yesterday from yesterday yeah and it's summit it's basically they expect you know half of the American population to be infected within the next twelve to eighteen months while they expect such a hundred sixty million people running this you get a couple more test maybe you think it may just help yeah wealthiest nation in the world supposedly you know can't get testing for you know what else to start to bother me turn this turning into very sorry but this is in the sports world and otherwise it does upset me as an American citizen on metro I know you're gone and I'm with you that people like Charles Barkley they want to test the key they have access right test immediately life well valuable than anybody else's because exactly as a lot.

Polly Mack
"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

11:24 min | 6 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"Neil one one time and tell the story in a second. One was the first time you met him. I know Mike. You're quite close with them. which is really really cool is the first time you I met him when you did the interview with him for the magazine? Yeah that was the first met him and I've been wanting to meet him my whole life and my career. He was always take a drum hero but he was always touching private insulated guy that he was always impossible to get to. And that's why once I did meet him and then once launch we did become friends like such an honor to meet to know that he was leading me into his inner circle. Because I knew how exclusive that was. So Oh yeah. That was my first time meeting him. That was about fifteen years ago and from there we had a great relationship. I mean I would always come by and you invite me to soundcheck whenever rush game through and spend time with them and you know He would send me emails times a year. We'd have exchanges and his emails. Where like his book? He didn't an email like hey mike. What's up had a great year? Hope you'll well. No I would get these like five page emails from him. That went into metaphors. Ed Wars and telling stories about you know what he's doing with his daughter he would send me pictures of her growing up and the pictures of them dressed up in Halloween costumes so he really. I guess once you were able to kind of infiltrate that inner circle if if if he took to you then then you were like family family and and he was just always so gracious and I thought the story yesterday when he passage you know that the last time I saw him was when I took Max to go see rush because I wanted Max ax to see them before they retired and see neil play and neal was just so graciously you know. Let Max get up behind his kit and gave them you know autographs heads sticks and opened up his dressing room to us with the entire day and night and he was just so gracious in that respect and so humble and and and the opposite of what is reputation is reputation kind of would make you think he's standoffish and doesn't let anybody. But if you get in there there was not not a sweeter tweeter person than him a mutual respect there. That's why he enjoyed talking with you. I mean because you if you look at a guy like the because you mentioned you. He's a very humble shy but when he meets somebody that's a player that he can respect and a person that respect. I'm sure that a lot to do with. Why he he enjoyed talking with? You know no to be honest. I don't think he could care less about you. Know who I was or what I did. You know the the drum accolades that I've had I think he I think we connected on on another level. I think that's why you need to get right. That's how you needed to connect with them. You know you couldn't really talk drums. He wanted to talk about motorcycles. With meals or or wine or you know all the different things that he loved. I don't know but in any case it was just a relationship that I am just so honored to have had. This is a great picture that you posted an instagram of of Max. Your son with with Neil and you can always tell the smile on. His face is legit aged. Just this giant smile. Max's face get a chance to hang out with with the appearance and beyond his drums. Charlie you posted a picture and your instagram. From when you you're probably fifteen years old or something like that when you when you met neil or your friend met and he'll tell that story I was after the show and my my my cousin was with me in the eighty or so was like eighty around there and he after the show. We went to the hotel which wasn't far from A place where they were playing We just followed a COUPLA people and sure enough they all came out and get he was awesome and I was this show nervous to see you But he signed my ticket and that was the story when I asked him what tells you is using at the moment because those are read an interview that he was changing and he changed everything and then he looked at me and he said that's a stupid question do crushed. But I'm telling you that the best way to turn him off is to let them know that you're fan and Atkins drumming question. You know okay. I was just knowing he was but but the thing is I was. I was a fan and it's like oh come question all right never mind I still eleven but then but then let's fast forward many many years later when we were at the Golden Gods thing and me and Mike were hanging out and someone said kneels here. It looks like Hey. Let's go see how to deal and that kid was just got so nervous. Like my stomach remember earned and and sure enough open the curtain. Mary was and Holy Shit. You know and talked. We just did that anthem. One thing and it's just such a great meeting and it kind of just made me so happy. Did He know that you've done anthem anthrax covered anthem. Yeah he's he said he said something about I remember. He's Mike introduced me and he said something like Oh. I know who you are and said something about anthem and did. I don't even remember what happened after that. I was just like I think I think he could probably see like heart emojis. Just coming out of my body just floating you know. Oh you did pretty good at those Golden Gods Mike. Introduce you to kneel pertinent introduce you to Tony. I owe me a great story. I mentioned you guys. Just we were texting. Xing was the host the Golden Gods that year and what happened was rush was getting an award and getty was supposed to come pick it up or Alex was and something happened where they couldn't and Ray Daniels called Bernstein Josh Bernstein and said Hey neal is GonNa come get the award and we're like what are you kidding. Me Like he's actually GonNa do because obviously we said infamous for not doing any of that sort of stuff and so I said said like if he's nervous or if he doesn't want to be around anybody given my dressing room and hang in there and he showed up he was super paranoid and he didn't want to be around anybody and Ray brought him in the dressing room and a dresser but I wasn't allowed in. He would let he hit the trust. He grew so that's that's where you guys met them. So I'm glad you guys met up because I never actually did ed but he did use the dressy ru. There's also here's another thing that a lot of people don't know that Neil us to do he would if any if anybody wrote him back in the days before the Internet if anybody wrote to him like through Modern Drummer magazine or whatever. He hands wrote postcards to each and every single person that ever wrote to him really and then what the Internet came around and word got out that he was doing and then he had to stop. He joked that it kinda ruined. The Internet. Ruins is fun little secret but it's such an amazing thing that he would do that and literally handwrite postcards to every single fan letter he received. That's he was famous for Like you said soon as the show is done last doubt a cymbal crash running out splitting I think a lot of the reasons they would have. Those movies at the end of the show is to keep people in their in their feats while he got on his Boston. And did the MED dash out of there. Yeah I the last time I saw rush was in on their last tour was in Houston and I I was there by myself and I knew the publicist because Andy. Current who works for them is a friend of mine and I went back stage right towards the end just to see what would happen. Then he told these zip right past me ran remember because he was wearing his drummers shoes. That were ballet shoes right. Yeah I think dance. You took the socks above the cops. Aren't they coppee zero. That's it shoes. And he doesn't get caught in the pedal. Yeah we used to wear those in the eighties. Eighties Manson Peste used to wear them for you. When you were drumming now? Don't go dancing Chris you we know that at the very famous for getting waving goodbye and running off the stage literally run us but the very very very lascaux they played in La okay. This is the only time he ever did this. He actually ran out to the front and talk about with Geddy and Alex and actually took a picture together. Three of them the first the only time he's ever stepped onto the stage really has all career was the very last show. No kidding. Yeah that's like the last show that. ACDC did with the cliff Williams he actually angus out of walked the catwalk catwalk. You'd never left the APPS and they made them walk the catwalk. What it Did you guys see that last tour of rush. I of course and Mike You saw two. Yeah that was. That was the show I was talking about where matched to see. Yeah we went to see him in Boston because it was so brilliant how they did that where they did a reverse chronological order and shave set for the stage. Setting for whatever era was is and went all the way back to like a little. You know three piece kit for the working man era I think super creative even on that aspect and the being taken away away and get you know getting less and less as time went on as we're going backwards brilliant is awesome. They end up in a school like auditorium. I was so happy with that with that show because I kind of heard rumblings at this is the last last one and then the song selection Shen they chose. I was so happy. The natural sciences sound Just you know I- Xanadu Xanadu. It was awesome and it was like I wish more bands would would would treat fans like that. Just you know here we go. We're we're GONNA lay all these all these things for you you know Jacob's ladder. I mean that was picture although I have one qualm with that set list it was picture perfect but when they were going backwards you knew the second to last song was going to be something to fly by night because they were gonNA chronological and every album. I only wish they did. They had chosen in the end. I would've been the second that would have been the second to last song of the show. which would have been so fitting? That was my only the only kwame but otherwise it was absolutely picture perfect settlers and I got to see them do Losing it they only did losing it. I think once or twice in Toronto when they filmed the DVD. Not but when I went to see them and I went to soundcheck I'm sitting in an empty arena. I was pretty much the only person fitting Ephron House and they were running running losing losing it down just practice for the DVD shoot. I got the year which was an amazing honors. Love that several Russia's retirement and some of the reasons behind them deciding that the tour anymore up before.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Drum History

Drum History

13:07 min | 9 months ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Drum History

"You're GonNa hire me and I guess they tracked him down on vacation. Wow this is one thousand nine hundred eight cell phones so they found him and say hey. Do you think that you know you have the kid come in and work and he said Oh. Yeah okay I it's like whatever sure. Yeah so you know it was. It was day one. I show up on the factory at the time work from six to two thirty and I got here at six. The hand me a pair of safety glasses and a pair of gloves and a broom and sweep the factory floor and that was that that was kind of the morning and they. They didn't know what to do with me. They didn't know what to do because the factory manager wasn't there yet And in in the afternoon they said well we'll come up to the front office where we're going to decorate for Christmas so I hung Christmas decorations in the lobby with one of the guests from the melt room so a guy that knew the secret and me were hanging garlands in Christmas ornaments in the front office which I thought was fantastic. ECLECTIC I So you know I I did did some kind of menial jobs for the next two weeks and then they decided that I was too little to work out in the oven room because it was really really backbreaking work back back then and they decided. We'll maybe we'll teach you how to leave so they started to teach me how to lay than I learned to leave the bottoms of the symbols. I and and I was very excited because I was making the instrument. Yeah had been playing And I I was a really quick study with with that with uh-huh leaving and you always begin on the on the bottom side of the symbols and they always get something like a newbie bottom for you to learn how to live on because they're heavy You can't really mess it up so then I moved into. You know some bigger size symbols from thinner symbols and then they started to teach me how to leave China's and splashes and and I would say it was after about two or three or four months It was decided. Well why don't we see if we can teach them how to leave the top side of the symbol. which is it's called finish leaving and you really have to develop a touch to be able to do that? Especially within or stuff and I was just I was just very excited. Headed to to be working in Seoul Gen which again I thought was only GonNa be for six months? Will I get a fulltime playing gig. Yeah but they started to teach me all these different Models to lay on the top side I was doing China's and splashes and paper-thin crashes and I started enjoin getting paid every week and the dental insurance health insurance and the bonuses. So I said maybe I do this fulltime and I play drums part-time nothing. Nothing wrong with that. So that's how I got into symbol making and you know people say well you know how how. How do you learn how to make symbols? And I said there's only one way to working symbol factory. There's no college degree in Cymbal. Making yeah sounds like an apprenticeship Kind of thing and yeah and Fortunately or unfortunately I guess for some folks. It's like you have to know someone and you have to get in but There's something to that choice of. So the percentage of people who can actually play the drums for a living on a daily basis is obviously pretty small. But that doesn't mean that you don't have to not work in the drum industry and you're a prime example of that thirty thirty years later doing what you love. And and it's I mean you're the symbol guy so I think that's very inspirational story. It's pretty fantastic. When I look back on it you know I wouldn't change a thing you know if I if I could cause I. It's really really great I laid symbols for for seven years The the Zilja family they hired a new Vice President for manufacturing and he came in and he started to make some changes with regard to how we looked at quality and how we looked at product development and he hired a new quality manager manager and a quality manager was was in charge of the product development aspect as well so that department got beefed up and I bid did on on job to go into rnd. And I and I and I won the job I started In the RND department in Nineteen Ninety five in the first symbol project. That I worked on was on the Zucca rain with Alex Kunia and I wish I knew you then what I knew now because I would have probably made symbols differently but it was fun because I was about twenty six or twenty seven years old and here I am. I get to work with some famous drummers and also you know how the hand in the development of new symbols for such an iconic brand. That's been around. I'm for hundreds of years. It was just very very exciting Went from the Izuka line and a one of the things that I got to see kind of unfold in front of my eyes when I was still alive operator was the development of the custom series So I I've been here long enough where there you know. I remember when there was no way custom. There was no custom dark there was no k Constantinople Caro- abacus any of that we. We made a remade KS. We made Z's if people remember what the Z line was that was a An unladen symbol with Different types of hammering bring techniques and it was a brilliant finish big thick on the symbols. Yeah yeah they were. You know like for heavy metal music and then we also I made a B.. Eight alloy non zillion family alloy called Amir. So that that the that was it and now now we have off branches of family tree. We have derivatives of the as and KS and stuff like that and it's really exciting and I remember her in nineteen eighty nine. You know if you remember the back of Modern Drummer magazine. You'd see vinnie Kelly to Dave wellcoll sitting in Belgian drummers members orange in front of a k custom ride because a lot of the drummers were playing a lot of jazz fusion style. You're playing a lot of brilliant. Finish KS Casey. Hi Hats and then all of a sudden stuff started started changing drummers where we're going back and going back and finding some A sounds thinner. Ace sounds and they were talking to Armand about got it and the as that were being made at the time they were a little bit heavier they had some higher curvatures. And this was all by design throughout the seventies to cut through the Marshall. Stacks with the with the you know loud rock band or but some some of these rumors that were playing the keizer. We're going back to some of the thinner As that did exist from the fifties and sixties and they were talking to arm about. Hey wouldn't it be great to make the style. Symbols began Dan and he he was working on it With with the people in our Andy at the time back in nineteen Was Round Nineteen Ninety Windy and I remember Vinnie. Call you to coming into the factory and working with Armand on it and I like literally couldn't talk. 'cause here's Vinnie Kalita yeah plant playing Parody on the table next to my lays And it was just really really cool. As as a young young drummer watching something unfold. It became an iconic symbol line. Really I remember getting my you know my i. I think it was a sixteen inch. Jay Custom fast crash and you get your VHS tape that has vinnie talking about the brand new line of of new a customs and It just being the coolest thing in the world world to pop in the VCR and and watch and now let me ask you. What is your favorite symbol? What's your favorite kind of line of zillions? That that's really tough. Because I liked them. All you know. I've been fortunate enough to have a hand in everything that we've developed developed over the years so every everything meaningful to me every every symbol projects. Simple design whether it it's very very kind of basic entry level what we call planet z all the way up to Constantinople. You know what we try to do at Sylvan. As depending on the the price point that you can afford that you get the best soldiers symbol that you can afford absolutely so you know everything is made here in Norwell factory so You know we WANNA put as much design effort into you know a plan as a kid constantinople so you you get the quality. Does that make sense. I don't WanNa Sound Corny but oh you know we really we do stuff like that. Yeah you know when when you receive it. We want want you to be happy that you you're you're getting that Zil Gen Concern quality In the symbols. That you just bought regardless of you know what sound textures your. Yeah and I think you probably realize this but again not to be Corny Oranje but I equate being thirteen years old and getting my first Twelve or thirteen years old and getting Z.. Bt Crash Asia and being like wow I've upgraded for my junk that came with my little toy drum set to then you get a a custom then you expand into this. Then you buy a used drum set that comes with some seventies old zillions and you get some new. I got some new beats with it. And I quite different zillion lines to different parts. It's of different eras of my like kind of drumming evolution growing up So it's just really not not many not many companies Brands hands can do that. Can I tell you about me by my very first symbol pleased though so I was. I was a freshman in high school as I was fourteen years years old and I had a paper route. I had one hundred paper paper route back then and I decided you know that Christmas with my Christmas tips from my paper route. I was going to buy zillions symbol. I wanted I wanted to be a part of the club you know I want. I'm among the symbols at my heroes plight now so I remember I remember You know getting all these Christmas tips and I got about one hundred twenty twenty seven dollars at year And this was nineteen eighty two expert. Thank pretty good. That was pretty. Good that there's a Lotta money back and DICTA central had just opened up his drums store in quincy and I didn't. I didn't know him I just. I had friends in high school that had gone to the store and had come back to to You know the band room and said hey you gotta check out this trump store for that just opened up and and you know over over in near West Quincy so like I. I took all the skin you know I was part of the The drumline in the marching band high school and being very young. I was listening to the old drummers. Talk about this trump store so I remember I remember Having all this money money and I'm like I'm going to buy a zillion symbol and I didn't know if I had enough money or whatnot but I remember calling the store and it was like a Saturday and Ironically enough it was dave descends. Oh that answered the phone because Dave and I are the same age. We're both fifty one. And I said I I want to buy a symbol and and and he said so. So what Kinda Music de apply. So we'll play rock music and he goes well. Do you know what what model do you WanNa say. I think I think I want a crash. Cymbal he goes Oh yeah well you know we have genre crashes and I said Okay says well we have sixteen and Seventeen and eighteen eighteen. How much is an eighteen inch? Rock crash cost. He said it's a hundred dollars. Okay perfect I have enough money right so I convinced my older brother. My brother is eight years older than me. I convinced him to drive me to the store and he doesn't want to. He wants to have nothing nothing to do with his younger brother. And especially buying my another noisemaker. Yeah so I said no I just I gotta go in and it's all set and I'm going to pay four and then I'll come right back five minutes right so he drives me to the store. This is the first time that I'm walking into it and I walk walk in and I see all the drum all the drum sets and they're set up on shelves up up above the The floor and it's like Angel Joel started singing..

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on The Tapes Archive

"Really cares. You know it's a tribal thing the farther away from your tribe. Something happens for less important that seems to be. I think it's just that's just human nature more than a national attribute and I two of the things I wanted to ask you. One is What do you think it is? That's kept the band together for so long Tried as it might seem. I would say friendship. You know. Just the fact that we've retained not only respect but also affection for each other over the years they there. There are many factors that contribute to that too in terms of the kinds of people on the way we relate to each other. The different kinds of you know Personalities that we can each compliment all. That's a part of it. But essentially it does come to just being friends and respecting each other and and satisfaction. I suppose if we weren't satisfied with the work that we did together that would end it all regardless of friendship but I think as I outlined in the scissors paper stone story at the bottom line of it. We have fun together. You know we have fun working together. We have fun playing together so In essence what else would you want? You know that that's why there hasn't been solo albums and that's why there hasn't been A Band Break Off. And that's why there haven't been crises and scandals in the papers you know because those those immutable things are those Those matters of longevity as far as job satisfaction and and good interpersonal relationships to put in corporate terms things have survived but bands that have existed for as long as rush a hell of existed for shorter time. You know the the members just hate each other. Oh yeah much more than people perceive in you probably have more insight into that than than most people do. Have you know people go to a concert? And they see the band playing on stage together and then at the end of the show they see them all bow and hold hints and all that stuff and then at the end they go their separate dressing rooms and get into their separate cars and sometimes even stay at separate hotels. I saw the live video. The police did just near the end and I realized that during the whole course of like an hour and a half they never looked at each other one. There was no There was no interaction between the guys in the band but not only that there was no acknowledgement of each other. It was three guys on stage playing not together but playing individually under one name you know. Yeah that that is. I think the reality far far more than than people have any idea. So you must feel felt must feel good when you saw something like that. He's read her in the middle of tour and and knowing the kind of interaction that the three of us go through on stage and off you know that that just could never be you know for forgetting Alex not to be punching each other around at the front of the stage chase each other around and all the things that we do to entertain ourselves on stage. It's hard for me to imagine working without all of that you know to me. It's such a part of what what we are and have been being in the middle of a tour and seeing sort of an object lesson like that of the opposite it makes. You feel very fortunate. I feel really glad that that's been happened to workout inter personally the way that it has. That is really nice. You'd mentioned earlier that you had some some interest and some things that you might have pursued otherwise you're not toward. What kinds of things are you doing with yourself? Well towards writing interest me enormously just learning about it and trying to develop a skill of putting what you think in words you know. In versus kind of a very district different disciplines working on lyrics is a very different mentality than thinking in terms of sentences and paragraphs and the structure of chapters and all of that so Pros is something that I've studied by reading. Obviously all of the great that have done it but also by trying to do it myself. Just you never know how hard something isn't so you try it really So that's something that has absorbed me more as a hobby really. I don't think myself is sort of the great Canadian novelist means but it's something I really WanNa know how to do. It's a skill that I I want to develop so I spend a lot of my time outside of the band Working on that in one area or another so are you. I'm India's a work in progress now. Always yeah but I hate to dignify it that much because I don't have aims of publication or anything like that it's just to me an apprenticeship in a way that I keep turning pieces of work just to teach myself things and then I put them aside and six months later you know. I look at them and see that. I've progressed from them. So it's it's like taking on anything new. The learning curve is steep where with music after having played drums for Twenty years now. The learning curve is very shallow. I've learned a lot in practice a lot and really put a lot of time and effort into learning the craft of it so Learning new things is partly not that appealing and also partly Futile you know to spend six hours a day every day. Learning how to do a faster. Peril seems pretty much irrelevant to me. Now I can spend six hours a day day after day. Learning how to put senses together and it is very satisfying because it's new and because the improvement is measurable. I can understand what learning and and and read a lot of other people's ideas on how to do it and try to apply them. And and all of that so I I don't like to dignify it too much because I don't consider that I'm a writer by any means but I'm trying to learn how to one couple other things like this. In CDs have become dominant has changed at all. The way you have worked Recorded the wave down your album cover. It's actually been pretty wide ranging change of things that Suddenly the record which we always considered as sort of the standard medium for all years past is no longer anymore in fact is definitely an endangered species shelter Leeann in terms of cover artwork. You're trying to deal with something that can be perceived and dealt with in a three by five piece of cardboard in a cassette box or in the five by five CD box or six six or whatever it is That's part of it. But also in terms of the music you know The division between side one inside who for instance was always a really important part of the running order to us and you decide you know sort of the progressive side one and and what song inside one and then a lot of times. The song that began side two would be an important consideration. There would be a flow in terms of of the dynamics of it almost almost comparable to a live performance that Two sides really made Much more interesting and much more workable. Where when you're dealing with a CD where it's essentially all one side You have to rethink that too. But the other parameters of time are very positive you know having more time to work with It hit us on both of the last two records in terms of the live album. We knew that we wanted it to be a single day because we weren't about to ask people to pay you know every day amount of money to buy. Cd's just to get a couple of extra songs limited choice of material in want to get to a seventy two minutes or something like that that had to be to fit on one CD but in terms of The presto album. It's because we weren't worried about forty minutes being that the ultimate length of record or the ideal of record twenty minutes aside Sunday with a CD or cassette The limitations were were much greater so we could Have more songs and US Spread out more stylistically because when when you're judging Individual approach is a lot of times. It's as more songs get written You're thinking about what's been written already and Stylistically what you would still like to cover so having more time to work with a lousy I think more into the corners stylistically and and to bring things that are maybe a little more eccentric than you might have Then you might have bothered to put into a forty minute piece so I think that the difference has been pretty evolutionary in the show that you're bringing town in a couple of weeks or anything special going on anything new anything different. That people will be interested in seeing long. I mean longtime rush fans guessing defa very you know very solid base of fans very devoted to the band etc and. I just wondered what's new for them. Yeah it's always really hard to answer because you don't like to To sort of pump out the hype in one sense in another sense. You hate to spoil the surprise but In in broad parameters at least we did rethink it from the ground up. You know as far as choosing the material we would play new songs and in particularly in old functional which Alzheimer's we would continue to play. And which ones we haven't played for a while that we would bring back so. I think the substance of the show is is very much different than it has been in preceding tours. As far as the presentation goes again we tried to rethink from the ground up and not do anything just because that's the way we did it last time you know. So so the whole visual presentation of for instance rear screen videos have always been a big part of our show but a lot of those They contend to become cumulative in the same sense of playing the same songs every tore. You tend to same. Show the same film to accompany them so again. We threw out that presumption and dropped a lot of the films that we used in the past and created some new ones. Both for new and old songs and Sometimes kept the song but dropped the film. You know just just to keep something Afresh about and also to avoid staleness. I guess in the opposite time. So there is a big there was a big rethink right from the ground up and I think the show is very different but at the same time. We're still drawing from the same well of material A definite healthy balance in the course of a two hour show between all the new stuff and they'll be surprised as songs. Maybe that people haven't heard for a while. They've seen us live from twitter tour. That will be a pleasant surprise to hear do you do you play the pass. Good okay because that's my favorite Aga. Am I really like the how I get drumming on? I mean there's some some you know little little intricacies that I really find attractive but I think all songstress great interesting Mason. Oh which songs people respond to the strongest. But it's funny in a in a in addressing the Drum part-particularly is is that it's essentially so simple and through modern drummer magazine. I got a letter complaining. In fact that Thought the drumming on the southwest was too simple and it just those stupid because I spent more time on individual drum parts for this for this album than ever ever in the past you know just constantly refining down each little element of what I was doing. And why and some of the passages took more time individually to come up with than any of the more overtly complicated stuff we've done in the past but part of the the essence of that is our part of the any kind of proficiency. I guess is making the difficult look simple. So it's been all that time like the past. The drum part took me days of work to refine down to be exactly what I wanted it to be. But in essence from a from a technical point of view it's it's relatively simple to play and some consequently from a superficial judgment of young. You know teenage drummer. Who just wants to see flash. It seems simple. But if it's the old thing of if it's easy to play that must mean it was easy to think of. Which of course is not the case. I remember when I was starting out. Players would learn Jeff Beck Guitar Solo and they think I'm as good as back try writing. You Know Addiction. That are obvious but they're not obvious to a beginner. If you can play it you could have written it. And I think that that's probably true of all the arts you know. It's a constant criticism painting me. All my kid could paint that you know when I was in especially in high school and I think we took extremely seriously you have long. Running arguments.

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12:53 min | 1 year ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7

"Are back here. Best coaching show. Because my good friend, San Genero is hey out here with me in the studio today. Got no financial planning degrees. But you know, he does have quite the knowledge of just success. Because here's a guy that's done. It worked with Joan Jett. And Bo Diddley a Cindy Lauper. And you know, as Pat Travers, lots of different folks, playing at music at a high level, and you tell you don't realize you don't think about it. But when you're in the music business, you've got a lot of competition. You better have your stuff together. You better know, what you're doing better know, how to bring something to the table that people want, you know, I did a little research on what are the what are the chances of someone? Let's say when they see the Beatles on TV in nineteen sixty four. And there are a lot of those and they wanna play an instrument. Right. Anybody that picks up an instrument regardless of what it is. What are the chances of them making a living? Not throw a long period of time. Just at an for any window to be able to sustain themselves playing a musical instrument and the result that I found online. Yeah. Was that it was one in a million? And if you're charismatic and your tenacious senior effort, and you have a great work ethic. Chew in a million. Wait a minute. Now. What tenacity I thought I thought I thought well who was which was it? Woodrow Wilson has said that. Oh, I can't remember the quote now, it's something like. Having intelligence there. They're all kinds of intelligent derelict's and tenacity or persistence is the quote, persistence is everything. So you're saying that it's even more than that. It's even yes. And but so let's let's try to fathom in our fathers reaches of our imagination. What is the possibility of someone making a living for fifty three years just playing and teaching music off the charts? Yeah. Yeah. It's it's gotta be low. I can't imagine one in ten million. I don't know. I'm sitting here of Sydney, I'm the one you're it on the one well for for me. There's so much that you can learn from the music world and the translates over because music is a conversation between instrumentalists, and what your job is as the drummer has always been to make other people sound good. Right. So I I think a lot about that. And it's also a compensation between the people that make the music and the people that are listening to the music. Yes. Yeah. Well, it could be a one way conversation. But sure sure, but I often think about that. So many times what happens with people with playing instruments is they said, hey, look at me. Look at me. Look at me look at me, and they don't realize it. Now, it's really about look at the other people, and my job is to disappear and make you look good, which is so the opposite of human nature. Right. I don't want to do that. I want me to look good. I want to be the person that stands out. And and that's the problem with life is is so awful. We're trying to get other people to notice us when in reality the best way to get somebody to notice you support them. Yeah. Right. It's just and that's that's what separates the mature musician from the immature musician is the fact that the mature musician is perfectly happy serving the song and serving only the song and not doing drum solos through every bit of the song. Basically playing like in a look at me fashion as opposed to being a team player and being an unsolvable player. Right. Right. So that that's going to be a big part of it now. So one of the things we said before the break we were talking a little bit about change, right? And getting people to. Deal with changes kind of a tough thing. Because you know, we want things just to remain Calvin Coolidge who was to quote on persistence. You were wondering what I was doing over here. Hey, man, how it you talk. And you do something the same time. You're multitasking is nothing in the world could take place. A persistence talents talent will not nothing's more common than unsuccessful, man. With talent genius. Will not unrewarded genius is almost a proverb education will not the world is full of educated derelict's. There we go. Persistence and determination, a loner omnipotent and basically. That's that's it and persistence. Let me interrupt and persistence is another word for tenacity. Yes. And tenacity happens to be the t- in my acronym. That's that engulfs my presentation called beets which stands for belief enthusiasm attitude to nasty. Yeah service. Yeah. Your attitude determines your altitude. And so many people have lousy attitudes, right? Why they're in the gutter. That's right. Yeah. So so often, so okay. So you're dealing with somebody that has had they've got some thrown at you got a company that has been old school forever. And all of a sudden, they're just thrust into the twenty first century and they've got to change their business model. Right. And how do you get them to change what has been working for so long? Well, you get them to change what has been working for so long giving them the idea and telling them that what's been working so long is not going to be working any longer that. If you stay with that same old business model, you're going to be running. You're going to be like the Edsel where are you going to be outdated and people are going to run right past. You realize that change is growth and change is a challenge that everybody should undertake to make them a better person to learn from an experience. And to grow as a as a personnel may be difficult. It's risky. It's risky, but it's better than complacency. And it's better than stagnation to me. Because that's that's basically, my belief is taking a music musician in the music business. If you're not adaptable to change, your knee, and you're in the wrong business because change happens almost momentarily change can happen on with something a piece of gear breaks, and you have to you know, or someone forgets to lira to a song, and you have to run an audible, and the, you know, the, what's or piece of technology, your laptop Br shuts down or freezes up when you have to queue the next song or whatever. You know, planning to go on a road trip and planning your life about a tour that supposed to start. Let's say in April and March fifteenth tour gets pulled because the record doesn't sell, you know, so you have to be adaptable to change in the music business. Nothing stays the same. You know, you look you look around at fashion you look around at at. You know, people that you look around at companies, I'm a company like blockbuster comes into a into my mind, selling videotapes, or whatever. Right. And then all of a sudden is streaming and the internet and just think of the amount of change that the internet has brought into our lives. So so what do you think about this? I had a friend of mine put it this way. He's always trying to reinvent himself. In other words, make himself obsolete. Do you ever think that way? I never actually thought it precisely in that way make myself obsolete. Well, it's an interesting explain what I mean by those see see how you respond to this. So what he would say is he would look around. And he said, okay. Here's what I do for a living. And how can I be replaced, and he would literally figure out a way that he could replace himself. Right. So it wasn't that he was going to become obsolete. But he was so on the front of the cutting edge of everything that he was figuring out. How is how it somebody knock me off my perch, she now that kind of thinking is very forward thinking, and that kind of thinking is is preparation for the future. In other words, you're thinking how what what are the possibilities that I can be replaced, and why would I be replaced, and you do things in order to prevent that. Or to grow. Are there questions that people can ask themselves that you think of in terms of? Okay. I am doing this. And if somebody is working with me, here's what would frustrate them about working with me. Because here's what I do. Those types of things I think about a lot of times, I you know, I went through this one of the major evolutions of change in the music. This came in the eighties with the the computers were starting to happen. Electronics drum machines. Yes. All right. So period. When I when I started in the sixties, everything was live right demos will live. Everybody was in all of a sudden in the eighties early eighties drum machines happen. Yeah. And a lot of drummers shunned it, no, I'm not going to be replaced by a machine I'm not going to be well, I wrote an article from nineteen eighty five sometime in. Eight nine hundred eighty five I wrote an article for modern drummer magazine called approaching the scary monster the scary monster being drum machines and replacement well for very for for a lot of people. They thought they thought it was going to be replacing them and initially the drummer she did replace a lot of drummers. But then a came came back into it went all the way to the left of every record being, you know, you think of Eurythmics even Cindy Lauper is first record was mostly drum machine. But then it came back to the middle where drummers were asked to play along with Trump machine. Yes. Fast forward to two thousand eighteen there's country acts country acts that the drummer every song. I'm not gonna mention any names because I know a lot of germs that play with famous very household name country. They play with the drum machines. You're or what a musician would call clear lock with it. Yeah. Click track you need to play. And so what I did when I prepped my students every one of my students, I prepped them and say if you don't play with a metronome, which is a basic form of a drum machine because he drum machine keeps very strict clock. Like time a metronome is a simple bare bones version of that where it's just sick. A like a clock ticking in different tempos play along with that. Because nowadays it used to be where records withdraw dumb withdraw machines or partially drum machines slash live. And then it became where more commercials with done with drum machines. Then it became where disco artists we using some machine like samples sequences live, and then it became where where where bands were flying in quote, unquote alive. Live like a horns section sound or percussion sounds right? But they are all linked to time. Okay. So if we look at this, lemme, lemme lemme take parallel modern parallel where a lot of people are scared right now. And this is something you've got to keep in the back of your mind. If you look out at what's going on around the world. There was a whole documentary on China, and what they were doing is showing how they had literally factories of hundreds and hundreds of employees that are being replaced by one employee and bunch of robots and what you've gotta do is. You got to think about what could replace me. And what would be my position in the future? You might be fixing the robot. It might not be a bad idea to go to school. Right. Robot pass? See you adapted to it. And that's a perfect example of how you adapt to the change that is coming look around and don't stick your head in the sand because you're just gonna get a lot of dirt in your hair. Listening to the investor coaching show mister Santa Genero Sandy's website, S A.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7

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10:23 min | 1 year ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7

"And that's the problem with life is is so awful. We're trying to get other people to notice us when in reality the best way to get somebody to notice you support them. Yeah. Right. That's that's what separates the mature musician from the immature musician is the fact that the mature musician is perfectly happy serving the song and serving only the song and not doing drum solos through every bit of the song. Basically playing like in a look at me fashion as opposed to being a team player and being an ensemble player. Right. Right. So that that's going to be a big part of a now. So one of the things we said before the break we were talking a little bit about change, right? And getting people to. Deal with changes kind of a tough thing. Because you know, we want things to remain Calvin Coolidge who was the quote on persistence. You were wondering what I was doing over here works. Hey, man, how you talk and you do something at the same time. You're multitasking is nothing in the world can take place. A persistence talents talent will not nothing's more common than unsuccessful, man talent genius. Will not unrewarded genius is almost a proverb education will not the world is full of educated derelict's. There we go. Persistence and determination, a loner omnipotent and basically. That's that's it. Persistence fan. Let me interrupt and persistence is another word for ten acidy. Yes. And tenacity happens to be the tea in my acronym. That's that engulfs my presentation called beets which stands for belief enthusiasm attitude to nasty. Yeah service. Yeah. Your attitude determines your altitude. And so many people have lousy attitudes, right? Why they're in the gutter. That's right. Yes. So so often, so okay. So you're dealing with somebody that has had they've got some thrown at you got a company that has been old school forever. And all of a sudden, they're just thrust into the twenty first century and they've got to change their business model. Right. And how do you get them to change what has been working for so long? Well, you get them to change what has been working for so long giving them the idea and telling them that what's been working so long is not going to be working any longer that. If you stay with that same old business model, you're going to be running. You're going to be like the Edsel where are you going to be outdated and people are going to run right past. You realize that change is growth and change is a challenge that everybody should undertake to make them a better person to learn from an experienced. And to grow as a as a personnel may be difficult. It's risky. It's risky, but it's better than complacency. And it's better than stagnation to me. Because that's that's basically, my belief is. Taking a music musician in the music business. If you're not adaptable to change, your knee, and you're in the wrong business because change happens almost momentarily change can happen onstage with something a piece of gear breaks, and you have to you know, or someone forgets to lira to a song, and you have to run an audible, and the, you know, the was or piece of technology, your laptop Br shuts down or freezes up when you have to queue the next song or whatever, right. You know, planning to go on a road trip and planning your life about a tour. That's supposed to start. Let's say in April and March fifteen tour gets pulled because the record doesn't sell, you know. So you have to be adaptable to change in the music business. Nothing stays the same. You know, you look you look around at fashion you look around at at. You know, people that you look around at companies, I'm a company like blockbuster comes into a into my mind, they sell in videotapes or whatever. Right. And then all of a sudden is streaming and the internet and just think of the amount of change that the internet has brought into our lives. So so what do you think about this? I had a friend of mine put it this way. He's always trying to reinvent himself. In other words, make himself obsolete. Do you ever think that way? I never actually thought of it precisely in that way, make myself obsolete. Well, let me explain what I mean by those. Let's see how you respond to this. So what he would say is he would look around. And he said, okay. Here's what I do for a living. And how can I be replaced, and he would literally figure out a way that he could replace himself. Right. So it wasn't that he was going to become obsolete. But he was so on the front of the cutting edge of everything that he was figuring out. How how would somebody knock me off my perch, see now that kind of thinking is very forward thinking, and that kind of thinking is is preparation for the future. In other words, she thinking how what what are the possibilities that I can be replaced, and why would I be replaced, and you do things in order to prevent that. Or to grow. Are there questions that people can ask themselves that you think of in terms of? Okay. I am doing this. And if somebody is working with me, here's what would frustrate them about working with me because here's what I do. Those types of things I think about a lot of times. I I, you know, I went through this one of the major evolutions of change in the music business came in the eighties with the computers were starting to happen. Electronics drain drum machines. Yes. All right. So that period. When I when I started in the sixties, everything was live demos will live. Everybody was in the same thing. All of a sudden in the eighties early eighties drum machines happen. Yeah. And a lot of drummers shunned dick. No, I'm not going to be replaced by a machine I'm not going to be. Well, I wrote an article nineteen eighty-five sometime in nineteen eighty-five. I wrote an article for modern drummer magazine called approaching the scary monster, the scary monster being drum machines and replacement well for very for for a lot of people. They thought it was daughter who's going to be replacing them and initially the drum machine did replace a lot of drummers. But then a came came back into it went all the way to the left of every record being your, you know, you think of Eurythmics even Cindy Lauper is first record was mostly drum machine. But then it came back to the middle where drummers were asked to play along with drummer. Yes. Fast forward to two thousand eighteen there's country acts. Country acts that the drummer every song, I'm not gonna mention names because I know a lot of germs that play with famous ver- household name country acts they play with the drum machines. You're or what a musician would call the lock with it. Yeah. Click track you need to play. And so what I did when I prepped my students every one of my students, I prepped them and say if you don't play with a metronome, which is a basic form of a drum machine because he drum machine keeps very strict clock. Like time a metronome is a simple bare bones version of that where just sick a like a clock ticking in different tempos play along with that. Because nowadays. It used to be where records which are done with withdraw machines or partially drum machines slash live. And then it became where more commercials with done. Withdraw machines. Then it became where disco artists were using some machine like samples sequences live, and then it became where where where bands were flying in quote unquote, alive like a horns section sound or percussion sounds, but they are all linked to time. Okay. So if we look at this, lemme, lemme lemme take a parallel modern parallel where a lot of people are scared right now. And this is something you've got to keep in the back of your mind. If you look out at what's going on around the world. There was a whole documentary on China, and what they were doing is showing how they had literally factories of hundreds and hundreds of employees that are being replaced by one employee and bunch of robots and what you've gotta do is. You've got to think about what could replace me. And what would be my position in the future? You might be fixing the robot. It might not be a bad idea to go to school. Right for robot. See you adapted to it. And that's a perfect example of how you adapt to the change that is coming look around and don't stick your head in the sand because you're just gonna get a lot of dirt in your hair. Listening to the investor coaching show, Mr. San Genero Hindi's website, essay N, D Y, G E N N A R O dot com. And he does a lot of speaking to corporate groups, and and talking about taking the music world, and how to apply some of the lessons from that into the corporate world. So let's talk more right after this on the things that companies should be thinking about and the things that you teach in that particular atmosphere to make somebody a little bit more successful and make their company more successful. So that they can go into the future now with all this fear. But maybe with a sense of hey, purpose. Maybe we got something we could accomplish here. And maybe we can be on the cutting edge rather than on the cutting block Winkler. Thank you. Thank you. We'll be back right after super when's the last time you checked.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

04:21 min | 2 years ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"An aerodrome lesson yesterday do you offer breaks down as well need one now i just i wasn't prepared i wasn't prepared for his greatness nice doing a show with you because you're a very good drummer but we're talking about one of the elite from around the world right right i mean how where would you seriously he's not here now so where would you rank i mean have you do you rank drummers like they try to rank football players and rank mortar bax there they do have that list i believe he's considered one of the one hundred greatest drummers of all time by like modern drummer magazine or something like that but danny one thing about danny is he was a groundbreaking drummer in the sense that he was really a kind of a jazz funk drummer then played rock music in chicago was one of those bands too there were there weren't any you know porn bands really not we're like that there were that big anyway and so he gets a lot of credit for being original and he offered to give me a lesson yesterday i said are you gonna take you over i don't know i mean i'd like to uptick in one lesson from him and he helped me quite a bit we'll i would think bright yeah yeah i told them i said hey man my schedule is so intensive we can work it in during the week it'd be great he may come on my show tomorrow in the morning you gotta find time rick i i should take an hour less than the hyperbaric chamber get on the drum kit with danny seraphin this is a little bit ruinous and frankly i don't i don't want to bring it up but it's sort of like paxton lynch turning down an opportunity to sit and talk football with joe montana well paxton says you know good point dave tomorrow i'm really jammed up i've got you know i'm getting i'm getting a toenail removed i've got a haircut schedule at one o'clock and i'm getting a body massage at three thirty so joe if you can fit it in that schedule i guess i'm good that's a that's a valid point dave you know i've i've i'm self taught i've had one lesson in my life from him and i'm almost afraid like you start thinking too much okay you know what i'm saying because the same excuse paxton gave me you can train wreck you could train wreck yourself if you think about it too much about playing drums yeah that's been times when if i started over thinking things you know it makes it harder to place amazing to you you have you talked to paxton because that's that's almost exactly what he told me really dave sometimes you can over think stuff and you can literally trainwreck yourself i'm afraid and i said listen you've already done that first two years i mean look at it this way this is this is an opportunity to talk to joe montana who's one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play for super bowl games for super bowl wins i'm not sure how many touchdowns zero interceptions so you know what do you put it that way you know how much i look up to you i think we gotta we gotta get on the kit seraphin i'm definitely going to strongly consider that david have you ever had air drumming lessons are you self taught on that well there was a time back in the back in the day i i'm sort of self taught air drummer as well i used to watch buddy rich on the tonight show and i'd sit with you know big books different styles different sizes of books to be my true star really did sit with big books murder to play the drums listen air drummers we're we're sort of our own breed right really can't make a mistake no no you're not gonna train wreck the bill if it matters to you you you can't if you're music matters to you rick that's only dismiss air drummers my friend no i'm not a real drummer i i have a lot of respect for you as i said and and your talent is well you don't hear the mistake like you do when you're doing my head every time every time you could cover it up easy you know what i say do it again top five drummers are in rolling stone magazine next yeah we can guess after traffic all right we'll check in with john morsi what's up john busy busy drive from the best best teams traffic center we've got a pretty busy.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

Rock N Roll Archaeology

02:06 min | 2 years ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

"Yeah so after after they played this song on air she made it through those four minutes and she she was leaving the venue and she stumbled into michael jackson's onto rosh he and that was the em tv music awards that he in lisa marie went we're on there prove he he was heterosexual or whatever sexual and just played like looking like oh there's michael jackson i just need to get back to the hotel and get loaded that was her drugs michael dope face to face with michael jackson and all she can do is think about getting loaded and then she had to go straight to get on the plane go to an interview and photo shoot for photo shoot for modern drummer magazine which was doing a story on female drummers and she lei was one who was one of her heroes was on this panel there were five women and it was her chance to relate to them on a peer level but she was so loaded that all she could do was think about how to look and talk normally and she looked down at her white shirt sleeve and noticed there was blood trickling down her arms she had just shot up in the bathroom this was how bad it was so she was really deep in the shit here air and that you know but during that time she was still playing with the band and still trying to keep together to do what she want needed to do and the next recording they did was recording of gold dust cover of gold dust woman that ricco kasic produced that was was for the movie yeah that was on the the crow that's right that's right that's right so let's have a listen to courtney love's a rendition of tation of dust woman goal doth woman everybody.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Sound Opinions

Sound Opinions

02:49 min | 2 years ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Sound Opinions

"Drums on this track under the house from public image ltd and martin atkins on sound opinions under the house from public image ltd martin atkins on those rampaging drums what have you got for us first jim well greg you know as a drummer myself as a lover of progressive instruments as a former contributor to modern drummer magazine i'm gonna try to illustrate a different aspect of what i've value about great rock and pop drumming with each track there's only one place for me to start you know i got a lot of tattoos and got a lot of ink i got only one drummer commemorated on my skin bass drum foot john bonham's three rings from led zeppelin four bonham simply put is the best rock drummer ever and it isn't about showing it isn't about complications although some of his parts are really tricky and amazingly unique it's about feel i've interviewed john paul jones the and led zeppelin a number of times once it's out by south west in front of about a thousand ardent fans i asked him about bonzo and he said you know that guy could sit down and play the old fiberboard carrying cases for his drums and it would still sound exactly like bonham for the track i'm gonna play when the levee breaks he actually set up at the bottom of a staircase and there was nothing but to stereo microphones at the top of the stairs zeppelin was recording with the mobile unit that rolling stones owned at headley grange out in the countryside and it was just monstrous page said i had this riff but it was bongos drums that made it everything how good is this drum part you know for one thing it starts with a couple of bars of the song isolated but it's more than that there's a reason it's been sampled more and i think this is conservative number one hundred and twenty other hit recordings people from eminem to the beastie boys from beyond saying jack white partnering up to dr dre to be or they have all drawn parts of this drum part it.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:44 min | 2 years ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Law for the breakthrough album lived through this that's violet from hall within q i'm pam power has had a shimon former drummer for holding burger aaron on that track was there a moment but one moment renew that being in this ban would change your life um i you know i thought and i wrote about it in a book that there's that idea that because um what because you a whole is connected to nurana that it would just naturally be like nirvana you know like and and it's it's not at all call it that there is such a always we were i'll always in the shadow of nirvana and then almost always sort of i felt like we had to shake that it's kurtz wife thing you know and and then constantly have to prove ourselves and i had to prove myself as a drummer and then i had to prove myself again as a drummer know in in the band and we had to prove ourselves as an actual ban that has songs and so when that record came out it had so much uh you know the depending on that that record was gonna be sort of our this is the were real and this is it so i felt a lot of responsibility was there any fund that went along with their responsibility we enjoying yourself yeah i it was by the first time i got two i'm really spend time in the studio recording and i got a a new drum kit and i could pick out the sizes and you know being a um the kid growing up reading modern drummer magazine and looking at you know symbols in looking at i was it was really cool it was um to be able to just you know have cool new drones and then you have spent time and try different snared round sounds and yeah that an and then touring and seeing the world was amazing i wanna i wanna talk a little bit about some of th some of the dark things you talk about in your memoir in hit so hard when a bank gets as big as whole day did i mean lived through this was huge issel millions of copies became one of the biggest records of the nineties there's this dark side as well and on on holes next album celebrities can you're still credited as the drummer and i i have.

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"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio

Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio

01:46 min | 2 years ago

"modern drummer magazine" Discussed on Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio

"It's kurtz wife thing you know and and then constantly have to prove ourselves and i had to prove myself as a drummer and then i had to prove myself again as a drummer you know in in the band and we had to prove ourselves as an actual ban that has songs and so when that record came out it had so much uh you know depending on that that record was gonna be sort of our this is the were real and this is it so i felt a lot of responsbility it was there any fund that went along with their responsibility we've enjoying yourself yeah i it was by the first time i got two i'm really spent time in the studio recording and i got a a new drum kit and i could pick out the sizes and you know being a um a kid growing up reading modern drummer magazine and looking at you know symbols in looking at i was it was really cool it was um to be able to just you know have cool new drones and then spend time and try different snared round sounds and yeah that an and then touring and seeing the world was amazing i wanna i wanna talk a little bit about some of th some of the dark things you talk about in your memoir in hit so hard when a band gets his big as hole did i mean lived through this was huge sold millions of copies became one of the biggest records in the nineties there's this dark side as well and on on holes next album celebrities can you're still credited as the drummer and i i have to say i didn't know this but you you right in your book the didn't actually play on the record um what hat.

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