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A Trip to the Negro Leagues Museum

The Lead

24:44 min | 1 year ago

A Trip to the Negro Leagues Museum

"The earlier this month it was the hundredth anniversary of the Negro Leagues and at the Centennial Celebration in Kansas City. Major League Baseball the MLB Players Association made a million dollar donation to the Negro Leagues. Baseball Museum come behalf of the players. the MLB Major League baseball have pledged additional million dollars to the project here in Kansas City. So as part of our black history month coverage here at the lead we decided to send the athletics Taylor a Kansas City native to check out the museum today. Nate takes us back in time to hear why Jackie Robinson was the one selected to cross the MLB color line. How Negro Leagues players were like rockstars in their communities? And the stories of some incredible pioneers there were actual women who played in the Negro Leagues from wondering and the Athletic. I'm under skelter and I'm beat the Davidson. It's Friday February twenty eighth and this is the lead it felt like something was there is something of emotion. That's not good this. This isn't a story here it stays with you. You're from Kansas City. Tell us a little bit about you and your background in KC yes. I'm born and raised here in Kansas City for me. My connection to the Negro Leagues Do Satchel page the wonderful legendary pitcher. Who's in the hall of fame? I actually went to his elementary school. That was named after him in Kansas City. Our Mascot was named the monarchs after the Kansas City. Monarchs the famous nearly baseball team. The central taste pissed on for a good portion of his career. So that was sort of my introduction and mate. What was it like growing up black and a baseball fan in Kansas City? I was taught as a Kansas City born and raised kid. That like you know. Hey there was great world series in one thousand nine hundred five two in the royals and the Saint Louis Cardinals back to work. Obviously we hate Saint Louis. Because they're on the other side of the a barbecue is just as our barbecue. But hey like the royals were terrible. The Ninety S I. I can't stress that enough. They were got awful but I did watch baseball. You know for the All Star game for the home run Derby We would occasionally as a family. Go out to the BALLPARK. You know you mentioned that you went to an elementary school named after a Satchel page were you aware of Kansas. City's history when it comes to Black Baseball. I'm in a unique setting where the Negro Leagues started in Kansas City. One hundred years ago I was fortunate enough. That black history month in my school was a little bit different where we got taught. I think tablet more than the average kid I learned about the Negro Leagues and its impact and because museum is Akin City. It was a easy filter for a lot of kids my age. So nate you took this private tour of the museum led by Bob. Kendrick the museums president Described Bob for us. He's a character. Well he is someone who I've written about as being the most authoritative order of the Negro Leagues and he does with the flair and of course but like a kid growing up as I did in small town. Georgia whoever you were I was always Henry. Aaron on the playground never never struck out. Never got on that important. That is you know on that. Three two pits with the game on the law. I never struck out and he has a great cadence to him. He throws a joke or two. That is still fact base. That surprises many people who take tour with him and so you can ask him just about any question in relation to the Negro Leagues. And you mentioned that. The Negro Leagues started in Kansas City. And that's why the museum is there. Can you tell us a little about the beginning of the League? The Negro National League began in Nineteen Twenty when it was clear that the major leagues at the time didn't want integration the country itself really didn't want integration at all that would. I think Beijing. What about this business? That a lot of people say about being created equal. But your feelings about that. I don't think they are. These are all black teas. In a time that there had to be all black teams because they were forced to sort of create their only and also to understand too that you know these guys had the play in a manner that was so different than the major leagues. They had to do it. When you call the showboating whether you call charisma or swagger they had to play the game in a certain style that was so drastically different from the major leagues that invited people to come watch them still second still ter- and if you weren't smart. They were stealing home and guys. That was the style of play. The museum was founded by Buck. O'neil who played and managed in the Negro Leagues and later became the first African American manager in Major League Baseball. How did he get the museum? Off the ground buckle new was trying to go around to a lot of his friends and say hey we're all getting older We're all GonNa be here much longer. Shouldn't we create something that honors what we did for the country and what we did for baseball we started the Negro Leagues Museum in Nineteen Ninety? So wet actually celebrating out thirtieth anniversary as an as we started the museum. Yes it opened as a one room closet. Basically Office Building with just artifacts and at that time there were a group of local Negro Leaguers led by the late great buck. O'neil who literally took turns paying the monthly rent to keep little office. So that's how we got started. So from that respect we are as grass roots organization as you will ever encounter book. O.`Neil Health bringing into popularity with the. Ken Burns documentaries. That were put out on. Pbs for years. Andrew Rube Foster and other black stars had organized dozens of barnstorming teams in the hope that they might one day play in the major leagues buck. O'neil had the personality to sort of share with people any store you wanted about a legendary baseball player. You may have read about are seen on a baseball car. And all that information was then transferred over to Bob. Kendrick before he died. And it's basically Bob Kendricks responsibility and onus to make sure that these baseball players legacy and the overall importance and development of Lee is carried out for generations. We'll say let's let's talk about the tour. Nate B B. Our eyes and ears when you first entered the museum. What do you see the way? The museum is structured is that it's built as if you're walking into a small ball part and so in order to purchase your way into a museum. It's almost as if you're buying a ticket. And then there are turnstiles old ones. I should mention large green turnstiles that you have to use to enter the museum so essentially you just walk into an old ballpark. Come through the turnstiles. The first thing you see is this map and is board that highlights the number of teams that were part of the Negro Leagues. And the map gives you an indication of where those cities clustered and as you can well imagine. They were primarily east of the Mississippi River. And then you're sort of in that small concourse right behind home plate. The Way Bob describes it is. It's chicken wire that separating you from the field chickenwire is sort of symbolic because it was the barrier that was used to separate why fans and black fans from Major League Baseball Games. Now this is the centerpiece. It is called the field of lettuce and the field of lessons as you can see is a mock baseball diamond that houses. Ten of twelve life-size bronze sculptures of Negro League great. And so as you're starting to learn that the Negro Leagues was born out of segregation before integration began. You are now being separated in a similar fashion and the museum is built in a way that you have to learn every step of the Negro Leagues from when it began in the nineteen twenties all the way up until Jackie Robinson all the way through the Negro Leagues sort of dying in the nineteen sixties. You have to learn all that information before ever stepped on that field with all those bronze statues and nate. The Negro Leagues had to you know separate themselves from the major leagues in order to get noticed and they had to be innovative. And one of the things that you you learnt is that the Negro Leagues Invented Night Baseball. They were playing night games in the Negro Leagues. Five years before they ever play the not game in the major leagues. Now our history book is going to tell us that the first professional baseball game nine thousand nine hundred five Crossley feel Cincinnati reds versus the Philadelphia phillies while the history book is wrong. The first professional baseball game nine thousand nine hundred thirty and it featured our very own Kansas City monarchs. So there's these power generators that cost a lot of money and they would sprinkle them throughout the Ballpark Jail Wilkinson who owned the monarch literally mortgage everything. He had to pioneer night. Baseball Portable light generated towers. So not only could they play a night game here they can know them up on the trunk and play a game. Virtually anywhere Those things were heavy. And they'll these didn't project as much light as you would think but enough that you have a spectacle that baseball had never seen before and will make you know. The location of the museum is really interesting to it's in this really historic neighborhood. In Kansas City eighteenth and vine eighteenth and vine in his heyday was a cultural cross. Rose where jazz and baseball intersected and was jumping anybody who anybody made their way to historic eighteenth and vine and there's a part of the museum that has basically a replica of the hotel lobby bar where these very prominent black entertainers would hang out and drink. The street hotel was the black own hotel right here on the corner of and let me tell you. It wasn't a travesty to have to stay at the street hotel because you're black and visited Kansas City. This is where you stayed that house. Every prominent black person you can think of in the Nineteen Thirties forties and fifties. And you could walk in the sitting room of the street on any given day. You might see sitting in one of these shares former heavyweight boxing champion. Joe Louis Twitter wake left at that time. The fastest man in the world. Jesse Owens whether you're an actor whether you were a comedian. You were a musician. You wanted to be a ball player because you knew what those guys could do was pretty electric on the field innate. There's this wonderful photo of Lena. Horne the legendary Lena Horne in a fur coat and kitten heels on the mound throwing out the first pitch at an all star game surrounded by Negro Leagues Players. It is the equivalent of beyond say hanging out with the NBA. All starting jozy wherever you ask successful baseball you had thriving black economies and so businesses like the street hotel were essentially emerging to meet me. Negro Leagues Baseball brought them a built in and clientele that let those businesses to the economic heights. It wasn't out of the ordinary for these athletes to go into a town. Fill up the ballpark yet. Not Be able to get a meal from the same fans. Adjust CHEERED THEM OR NOT. Have a place to stay and so you know. The barbershop needed the ball players. Just as much as the ball players knew the barbershop but one of the more fortunate. Things is once Jackie Robinson breaks the moby color barrier. You start to see that some of the black businesses in these cities such as Chicago. Kansas City Saint Louis New York Philadelphia. A lot of those businesses started to fracture and a lot of ways and to a great extent. Black Economy never recovered from losing the Negro Leagues. So what was good morally? What was good. Socially was devastating economically But it was good for the soul of our country and it moved us in ways socially that we never ever dreamed possible as most of us have found out the hard way getting into debt is easy getting out his hard especially if your credit score isn't great thankfully now there's upstart dot com the revolutionary lending platform. That knows. You're more than just your credit score and offer smarter interest rates to help you pay off high interest credit card debt. 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You wish you knew like Kristen Bell Jonah Hill in Neil Patrick Harris in relives the most interesting in hilarious moments in their lives subscribe to life is short with Justin long on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever? You're listening now so we can't talk about the Negro Leagues or the Negro Leagues Museum. Without talking about Jackie Robinson and the museum does a really beautiful job of chronicling his transition from the Kansas City. Monarchs to the Brooklyn Dodgers and I think people think Jackie just walked out of nowhere and started playing for the Brooklyn dodgers but Israel rookie season was nineteen forty five. Yeah tell people all the time before he was number forty two. He was number five for the Kansas City. Monarchs and of course the year that he spent in Kansas City. He fell in love with everything that Kansas City is famous for Barbecue and jazz. Everyone Remembers Forty. Two obviously Major League Baseball as retired the number on every Jersey except for one day when Jackie Robinson Day in the major leagues. But one of the things that Bob has to explain to anyone who will listen is that no Jackie Robinson. At the time in one thousand forty five was not the greatest big rallies baseball player. There were other meagerly players who you can make a legitimate argument for bed of baseball players. Then Jackie Robinson that. This wasn't just about talent you had to have someone who had the intestinal fortitude to deal with the adverse social conditions that they would be faced with as higher near breaking the color barrier and Jackie had him on. He wasn't a guy that was going to go out and party. It was gonNA make an embarrassment of himself once he got to the major leagues instead. He understood the entire weight the gravity that was placed upon him by saying. Hey you represent not just yourself not just your family but you present a whole race of people in your own country. Yeah you had to have the entire package. Because I gue- came failed. I cannot fail I guy failed. There is no second guy and so that was the enormous weight that Robinson was carrying on his back when he took that challenge becoming baseball's chosen. What and another important player you learn about during the tour is Hank Aaron. A player that Bob just talk so lovingly about his all time favorite player. Yeah. This is my favorite picture in the entire exhibition. Because I'm a huge Henrio Fan. He is my all time favorite baseball player. And my childhood idol as a kid growing up in Crossville Georgia That's who I wanted to be in it matters to Bob Kendrick because he grew up in Georgia and of course when Hank Aaron Broke immeasurably baseball record for the most home runs. He did it as Atlanta Braves. So Bob Griese disgrace story about how he was enacting. What occurred on the field in his own living room. When he reckoned homerun some fifteen he's circling the bases in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and I'm circling the bases in my mother's living room in Crossville Georgia and as he was touching them all hours testing them all and so he holds a special place in my heart and nate. One of my favorite things about the museum is it does justice to the role of black women in the Negro Leagues. Were where there were three women who played professionally in the Negro News Tony Stone. Connie Morgan and Mamie Peanut Johnson Pioneers women who competed with an against the men in the one thousand. Nine hundred fifty. Tony Stone took the roster place of Henry Aaron when she joined the Indianapolis clowns so hank Aaron goes onto the major leagues the following year. Comes Tony Stone? Someone who had played barnstorm as a woman baseball player for many years and finally got the opportunity to be sort of a crowd pleaser and a really talented baseball player. Who got a chance to play in the Negro Leagues and is not just a women who played the game as well in the it was a very power nearing league. They also have female leaders executives owners in the Negro Leagues Way Ahead of Major League Baseball. Most notably EPA Manley effort manly and a husband Abe own Newark Eagles. But it was Mrs Manley who ran the day to day operations. That baseball team consider BOB. The first woman general manager in professional baseball history. She own and she knew the business of baseball as well as any man. The only thing that the nearly cared about is can you play or do you know the business a baseball if you know one of those two things? If you're pretty good at it they included you in a way that few other businesses were allowing that to occur in the nineteen forties and fifties. What is your lasting impression of this museum and the legacy of the Negro Leagues? It's what it does to children honestly And I'm saying that because of what observed at the tour you know. One of the interesting things about children is that they don't know the racism the prejudice the segregation thankfully. They can't even fathom America. That was divided by color segregation. Summarized through the eyes of a child is done so very simply that was dumb and the right it was dumb but it was also the way that this country was and it's very important that we allow our children to look back in time. If they are to appreciate how far we've come when Bob Kendrick gives a tour you know. He's not shy about saying. Hey there were white baseball players. Who Spit on Jackie Robinson? When he was slide into second base and that sort of just a a small detail of what he faced throughout the course of his rookie season. So they're blown away when they come in and learn you go jail sitting in wrong. Section of Ballpark are drinking from the wrong water. Found using the wrong restroom. Lot of people as you well know lost their lives for breaking those simple societal standards. But the other thing that you have to admire is they never allow this to kill the love of the game of baseball. So if I've got to sleep on the bus and eat my peanut butter and crackers. I'M GONNA keep playing ball and really that's the prevailing spirit that you feel here at the Negro Leagues Museum and so you see these kids have fun when they get on that field after learning all that history they WANNA play baseball. You will see them mimicking. Hey here's how I'm going to swing the bat and I'm going to run the first base and I'm GonNa get this head off such paid a and again. We hope that we can be part of that equation. That gets kids excited about playing our sport and but it's important that they be able to come here and see themselves when they walk through this museum. They say people look just like them so to see how it transforms children in a way that you can see them see themselves in these nearly ballplayers when these men weren't able to get the same opportunities that we now have as Americans and while America was trying to prevent them from sharing and the joys of her so-called National Palestine it was the American spirit that allowed them to persevere and prevail and I think that's what makes this story so triumphant and so compelling and so are inspired while nate. Thank you so much for joining us for giving us your perspective and for being our eyes and ears into the Negro Leagues Museum. Yes thank you so much for having me and I hope. This encourages people to check out the museum for themselves. While Taylor clearly loves baseball he covers the Kansas City chiefs for the athletic and you can read his coverage of the chiefs at the athletic dot. Com here are some other stories. We're following at lead. Things are getting testy with the. Nfl's proposed new CBA. Which would make the season seventeen games? Instead of sixteen quarterback Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson took to social media denouncing the deal with Roger saying the length of the season was quote. Never something to be negotiated. Meanwhile Wilson tweeted quote the NBA and Mlb are doing it right. Players come first. All players deserve the same. We should not rush the next ten years for today's satisfaction. I vote no but despite this opposition. Nfl PA Executive Director. Demorris Smith told reporters Thursday that he's confident. The deal will be passed. This has been happening in Indianapolis where the NFL combine is also going on but interestingly enough. It's not the prospect workouts that have the football world buzzing the Athletics Lindsay Jones writes quote with apologies to Joe Borough and the rest of the rookies who have traveled here for the NFL scouting. Combine the most interesting quarterback named here in Indianapolis. Is Tom Brady? Where Brady ends up. And where Philip Rivers Cam Newton and Jameis Winston end up have been big talking points at. The Combine Jones writes that quote. It's all these. What ifs and speculation combined by a top heavy draft class of passers headlined by Borough and Alabama's to attack of Aloha? That make this. The most unique quarterback off season possibly ever. That's it for the week. Thanks for listening. Everyone producers. Caitlyn plummer Chris. Siegel and Chris Olen editing and production by senior producers Lea Hernandez and Matt. Strap fact checking by Ian Sound Design and mixing by air in. May Jake Gorski and Joe. Richardson the executive producer of the lead is under Calcio. Could beat the Davidson is our editorial director. Our Show is executive produced by Lea Hernandez Marshal Louis and earn on Lopez for wondering from wondering and the athletic. I'm under SCELZO. I'm could beat the Davidson Sia Monday.

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Hour 1: Gundy vs Chuba

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:29 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Gundy vs Chuba

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You're you're mother's ready to divorce him after I don't know how many years they've been married. Because you can't put on a mask, right, he continues to. To thumb his lack of his his nose and his lack of health. At at society by continually going out to restaurants, none of us go anywhere because we're trying to kill him. From getting sick in the demo that is most likely to get sick and no one needs a mass more I mean. You're right. He's hoping for two years Chris. How first of all I'd coughing? Can you wait to talk, please? Can you wait to foul up the show for just a second? Already. happened to Manfred Ace in the Hole I. Don't know this happened yesterday on the show. You said he had an ace in the hole. We played the the sound of my fathers celebrating. Stugatz is right, holy bleep Stugatz his right He has some fifty game season that he can throw out there, and now he's on with Mike Greenberg, and he is telling my Greenberg that he's not confident. There's going to be a baseball season. After saying he was one hundred percent. Sure there was going to be a baseball season. Yes, Billy. What happened was Dan you know how sometimes aces are wild? It's only like red aces or wild. He had a black ace and he thought Black Aces were wild. It's ready a useless card. He had in his hand. You know so put on the. In the hall at Lebatardshow put it on the poll. Please Guillermo First of all should his name be Fred Manfred. Second All. Do you. does the name Fred Inspire anything in the way of confidence because I believe his wayward. Fred is what's costing him I. Don't believe as much confidence. As the other commissioners. Have And I would also ask you Put It on the poll at Lebatardshow. Did you get into sports to hear Commissioners Talk? You know code. He's got something for baseball. He grew up with it. As the national pastime, it was the game that mattered, and now no one's making a bigger mess of this, not even Kyrie Irving, no one's making a bigger mess of the return to sports, not my Gundy, not anybody then baseball is because they're fighting over money. Other Mike Gundy's trying. He's trying to do what he can. For whatever his cause is mullets and being forty years old. are those are the two most famous things on Gundy's resume. The mullet and I'm forty absolutely. Yeah. What else would there be I? Don't know somebody. Give me a signature Oklahoma state win because they're the fiesta bowl. Didn't Brandon beat Andrew Lock in a New Year's bowl game. Is that the signature Gundy win? Because what I associate them with is scoring forty one points while allowing forty five. And in all the games that matter putting up nineteen for some reason. I don't remember Oklahoma state ever winning a meaningful game and that guy has had a job forever. He can he can coach there forever, because Oklahoma, state has no preordained right to be good, and they're always others, receiving votes or bottom half of the of the top twenty, and seems like my just give you one. I'm Oklahoma drew lock with Brandon Weeden I mean. Oklahoma City present. You remember beating Stanford you. That's your signature. Win Beating Stanford. I mean. I can't I I. Don't know what to do with you asking for an example. Dismissing, but if that's your signature win, like yeah, they're not a national championship program. That's why Mike Gundy's kept his job for so long, actually had a good run for Oklahoma state under Mike Gundy. Their whole deal is hey. We'll be in the mix we'll be. Hey. They gotta put us in the top ten, and then we'll drop a game against K. State and predictably then we'll come back after dropping another one to Baylor and somehow beat Oklahoma because they do that in Oklahoma. Do they almost state often beat Oklahoma. Oklahoma just has they control their own destiny, the entire state of Oklahoma Oklahoma state and Oklahoma you, they have the ability to control their own destiny, and they'll just trade off losing to one another to blow it. What is my Gundy's record? Would you look this up for me? Please against Oklahoma, He's in the news because he was in a hostage video with his running back, and it was amazing to watch the two of them. Sort of do a hostage video press conference because he wore a t shirt. And he's a mullet I mean he's a dope. Just a dope like he's the guy who runs Oklahoma state is dopey, two and thirteen versus Oklahoma and. While, they are two. They got two big ones. But he's one twenty, nine and sixty four. Kansas every. We'll get to the Mike Gundy story in a second because it's amazing I, I am flabbergasted, okay, I don't care what t shirt he wears, but if you're going to be a coach in that position and You're going to do high profile things, and this is the time when people are taking sides, and you're running back comes out and says hey, I'm not down with that shirt. Coach is wearing. That is going to start some questions and those are going to be questions that you have to answer i. just can't believe that. The only apology I heard in that hostage video was from the running back for breaking ranks on secrecy for calling DOJ. Don't. Like team distractions Mike You have the hostage? Yeah I have the sound of the video that was apparently shot by Mike Myers because there is a hugely distracting person breathing in the back of all of this, and there's and Mike Gundy. It should be noted that's just a word salad of nothing. He doesn't give any specifics on anything. He's GonNa Change other than his t shirt, and his running back is standing next to him and the running back is apologizing. For. The coach wearing the t shirt right? Even the athletic director in his comment, said man. These tweets are very disturbing. It's the tweets in the action of calling out the coach that appears to be disturbing because he's just wearing a shirt that honestly at the beginning of the pandemic, his support of an was far more damning than just wearing a shirt by people want the kid to handle that behind closed doors. Do it in private. Don't you know dump pointed out? Where you have no power. Do Love. The kid went from not doing anything for Oklahoma state to bailing out Oklahoma state by shooting the video with Mike Gundy. Let's listen to this video. Today's tweet with the teacher I was wearing. I've met with some players in realize it's a very sensitive issue with what's going on in today's ninety, and so we haven't seen in. Some things that players still. And make our organization or or even better than this here. Mistake and I'm looking forward to make some changes, and it starts with me and we got the days in. Osthoff by first say I would've off. Only by tweeting, I'm not sober that. Has To tweet something chains. I should've went to as a man of. Action so thousand part, but for now we're GONNA. Change that's. Was Darth vader there. The breathing was very heavy i. Got You guys better get ready for press conferences that have cameraman wearing masks who are breathing very heavy from behind a mask. Yeah, the cameraman suggests that it was like a professional i. mean just the whole thing was bothersome, not just the breathing center just move a little bit to the left and get Albouy culture entirely in the frame. Do you believe that anything there will change other than his tee-shirt? All is condition. The change I love that my he's out here. Saying there will be change in that change starts with me and it starts in my laundry room. 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That have to happen more on ESPN daily presented by marathon these days we have to travelsmart marathon can help by improving engine performance with quality, top tier gasoline marathon, fueling the American spirit download subscribing review. ESPN daily available wherever you enjoy your podcast. If this story is new to you, and we will get to Greg Cody of the Miami Herald in a second The back story on this is at the start of the pandemic Mike Gundy was out here, saying that these bodies needed to be out on the field, making money for the university. Earlier than that, he had a lot of praise for what he believes to be a truth telling news network Oa in his comment, as Mike Ryan said more damning than the t shirt. He wore the other day. The T shirt comes as no surprise if you heard his comments, but his running back. A thing Chaba, Hubbard he was a top ten heisman guy. He's a two thousand yard rusher. The t shirts seems to be a direct result of those glowing comments. That's probably a swag. He received, and so he rides on twitter I will not stand for this. This is completely insensitive to everything going on in society, and it's unacceptable. I will not be doing anything with Oklahoma state until things. Things Change change being the capital letters, and then what they did was they had this awkward hostage video later that day, and this may be doesn't tie into the pandemic comments that Mike Gundy had a few months earlier in which he incorrectly labeled as a new source. That's sands opinion in fact I think anyone who even passionately loves. Oh, and would tell you. It's pretty much all opinion. Part of those opinions are offensive one of them. Compared black lives matter to a criminal organization, not even compare just straight up. That so given the recent news wearing an O. A. N. shirt, still a couple months later and doubling down on the support, considering some of the things that they said trump hubbard is absolutely correct. Take exception to that. There is a disconnect though somewhere in how it is, that might gundy leader of young men absorbs information when he says that that is a fact based objective news organization. He doesn't understand what facts are. which is something that is troublesome throughout America. America these days or he doesn't understand what objective is because I like, Mike said not a whole lot of folks are going to say that that's an objective news outlet, but now stugatz is simply scared of wearing any t shirts. I am. I mean listen I'm okay with the athletes calling out the coaches calling out anyone who wear something that's offensive, but I have no idea what to wear what not to wear. T shirts going to offend someone I'm wearing A. t-shirt underneath the Black Jacket that I'm wearing right now i. don't know if there's anything offensive. That Michigan is dawn or on the t shirt, so I just going playing t shirts moving forward plane, preferably black, but occasionally rag green, yellow blue. No low goes no nothing playing. T shirts of the way to go you name you do not know whether Michigan University. The University of Michigan has a building on campus name on it and. And that name used to own slaves. You do not know that and therefore black T. shirts or the way to go, cody, what do you think here with calling my gundy names? What do you think of what it is? That has happened here at Oklahoma state where they certainly got on the PR crisis quickly because they some that running back, and they did that video in front of people with the heavy breathing soon after. The the rise of of the controversy, what are your thoughts here, cody? I love with the running back, said I the video that followed it up, but you know there may be actual Chan. Maybe it took Mike Gundy, being embarrassed and called out to actually make something happened beyond taking off the tee shirt, and as Mike mentioned. That that's a network WHO's commentators are anti black lives matter I mean. It's pretty plain. For me, it's a hey. Read the room Mike Gundy. you don't be tone deaf. At this particular time. It reminds me of the the NASCAR truck driver who comes out you know threatens to quit in support of the confederate flag essentially It's just the timing is so awful that it just makes you cringe. In, for Mike Gundy to do what he did. I think is offline and more power to running back into athletes in general to to speak up amid all. They've got so much power Can you look up for me Mike? He just signed an extension. Mike Gundy right He doesn't have to bother usually a reading the room because he always runs the rooms that he's in like. This is how this stuff gets distorted of course. Course even in the even in this video where you're watching the running back, apologize for making it public. You can feel the institutional pressure of keep our bad things even by coach in house. Where in team we're on a team, no matter how powerless you might feel, you realize coating. What's happening right now? Across College Sports is for the first time. These athletes feel like they actually have power the for the first time they don't. Don't feel like they're totally helpless. Doing stuff like this that that they're going to get punished with sprints or stairs, because because they have nothing in the way of real power, they in their parents have to sign waivers at Ohio state of volunteering to get sick so that the money machine can keep being fed from ESPN at Ohio state everywhere else, and these guys are starting to test positive because they're colliding and they're risking their. Their their bodies with the stupidity of as we're all out there, trying to get like rush sports and money and they're testing positive and Mike Gundy school by the way considering coincidentally Mike Gundy signed a one year extension extend his current deal to twenty twenty three. That was back in two thousand nineteen. The logic behind that is if you're recruiting these kids, you guarantee them that I'm there for your entire tenure? It's just all super. Agents up to my not to dismiss his credentials, because yes, he hasn't done a lot of winning at Oklahoma state in terms of the national perspective, but in two thousand twelve believe he finished the season top three without winning the festival, and he is ranked inside the top five with the highest winning percentage at their current school. Hold that thought. Let's sell some ads. Guess cody go ahead. What do you have here? What part of what the hostage video was about was the code of the Locker Room Right? Where internal stuff is supposed to say internal, but what we're seeing is is athletes marshalling their power and Wayne. What's more important to me? Is that my team or is it this `cau- is that we're seeing. Play out in the streets and I don't think sports is going to win that light. I think that's a very personal thing is bigger than games. You really petered out there. You need to get in and then your voice shot and. And you just Olympia the finish line, almost fundamentally one hundred percent impotent. GEICO knows there are many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers, a band of brothers always there for you rain or shine to the amazing savings you get with Geico on your motorcycle, insurance and accessories coverage all year round, but for buck. Hill. It was one reason in particular. It was my helmet hair was born with helmet hair I've tried to cut it a bunch of times even buzzing it, but it immediately just goes back to helmet hair geico motorcycle. 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He has decided to go back on his word, and is now threatening the cancel the entire season. Any implication that the players association has somehow delayed progress. On health and safety protocols is completely false has rob has recently acknowledged? The parties are very very close. This latest threat is just one more indication that Major League baseball has been negotiating in bad faith since the beginning so the fight over money continues Greg, cody your thoughts here are what as baseball like you've covered baseball for a long time and baseball I. How many times have you heard over the years? This is the one that kills baseball. This is the one that kills baseball and. Regional TV contracts are so crazy that the dodgers can afford anything. Because, nothing has or can kill baseball, but your thoughts here or what? Nothing. Kills Baseball You know from the next eighteen nineteen black SOx scandal steroids. Nothing kills baseball. This won't neither will strike when collective bargaining comes up at the end of twenty one, but it's just another example of America's pastime. Letting America down, you know remember. They had this grand plan to symbolically start the season around the fourth of July. Wrap everything in the flag lift American spirits baseball's back. We're here for you. Where America's pastime again and they did the whole. They let the whole. Whole thing collapse in you know both sides are guilty of greed, mostly the owners of for going back on on the original pro rated plan, so it's just an I'm disgusted with baseball, you know the other sports are moving forward. We have dates to circle on the calendar all right. This is when they're going to report. This is when they might start playing again and baseball just pulls the collective thumb, and it stinks. It really does it I'm so disappointed in in this fort. and they should. They should be ashamed of themselves. Shall we still be calling in America's pastime? Like why isn't that passed? It's time like. Shouldn't we be done with the calling of baseball for Greg? You'll always be America's pastime that right. Yes, all right so Yes, greg say I say it almost ironically now. Almost facetiously, but in this one little instance I think baseball. If they had managed to come back on the fourth of July, it would have sort of briefly taken back that mantle lost. It would have been seen as as heroically lifting the spirit of America at the very time the spirit needs lifting, but but instead we see what happens. It's just bizarre. Right up until seventeen guys tested positive and they had to cancel the season, because we don't know what the Hell we're doing with this unseen killer, and you specifically have been used. Used specifically have been more irresponsible than anyone here. You have gone to more restaurants. Greg Cody than everyone else on this show combined when your in the dangerous demo. Your wife is disgusted with you and the way that you can't wear a mask correctly. Your son is scared for your son who is limiting impinging his own freedom so that he doesn't get you sick mortified as he sees you in these restaurants. How often are you going to restaurants? Cody well. We have been to a few, but what you have to realize that. I'm wearing a has met suit in the restaurant. I like an astronaut on a lunar mission. So you know it's tough eating through that big plastic bubble, but at the same time. I'm taking every in all seriousness. I'm taking every precaution possible, and even though my wife and I are at war over how to wear a mask. I'm taking this very seriously and I. Want everybody to know that taking every precaution possible is not leaving your house idiot. Like no, which part of that are you not understand it, we. We disagree on this point. I think if you're being as safe as you can that going into a restaurant occasionally. Is Okay Chris Chris! How often how often is he going to restaurants? Because he's doing occasionally, he's already doing this backpedal. You're being more responsible than anyone on this show in terms of how much you're going out, you know how hard it is for me not to go to restaurant. I will tell you though he's never sounded better. I mean throughout this entire pandemic. This is the best he's ever sounded. Maybe it's working just awful the cloth. Again, but it's just been one muffle i. mean that's it. That's Progress I feel good. I feel great. I'm clicking heels. everything's great. You know I. I want to invest in Plexiglas Because when you go in a restaurant now everything is separated tables or separated I. mean restaurants that I've been in. Are doing a serious job about respecting social distancing and stuff like that you know I'm I'm not gonna live my life in a in a shell? A I'm GonNa do what I'm to do. Within reason. When you are in when you're over sixty five years old, and you've had problems with your immune system. In recent years, you would think that you would take the extra precaution and just avoid ubereats. You. Money's no issue for you. You can bring in any food. You want like edges. Don't understand the need to get out to a restaurant. Will. You know I'm I'm trying to keep my wife happy? She likes going to restaurants You know you're not here when I'm washing? My hands maniacally You're not here. When spring disinfectant on packages that enter my house. I mean you know, I don't want to leave the impression with anybody that I'm not taking coronavirus seriously because I am disagree is I. Don't think it's at odds where. Where you can take this seriously but also venture into a restaurant, occasionally with the proper precautions and I do that I will not ashamed of it I will say that it's tougher for the older generation, because like someone like Greg or by Dad Greg it. In our case, he has no idea how much time he has left on this earth and he doesn't want to spend it. You try to grab a couple of dinners with his wife. First of all. It's not a couple of dinners, and what can't coexist I will not allow to coexist is thought of I'm taking every precaution. I can't stop fighting with my wife because she says I. Wear the mask wrong. The time those two things are not allowed I'm taking every last precaution I can, but my wife keeps telling me. I'm an idiot about how I wear the math. Right, and she turned me around on that and quite literally turned my mask around by offering me the evidence I needed. Once. She told me why. You're supposed to wear the blue on the outside. Instead of the way I understood. But not not before you killed four people in a nursing home. Man He's money. Go to help man. For Real. riles. Flick. With thousands of locally owned NAPA stores across the nation, chances are that wherever you call home, we do, too. 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Call it comedy special because there wasn't much comedy in it, but the youtube video. Dave, Chapelle put out the other day about a half hour long has about or more than twenty million views now and i. do think that Dave Chapelle weirdly now occupies a sort of space in the modern times that Jon Stewart. was occupying when. When. He and the daily show somehow became America's most trusted newsmen as you know Brian, Williams was falling apart over here and Matt Lauer was falling apart over there, and wherever it is you and Dan Dan Rather wherever it is that you use to believe of the most valued newsmen was that landscape is entirely change, but for a while there the polling. Showed that the the the people trusted John Stewart the most. When it came to news and information I'm not making that up that there was pulling that made that so when I just think that now. That John Stewart is gone and his voices missed I. think that Dave Chapelle has sort of rushed into the breach. Since we're making Comedians, the guys that were willing to trust on these things, because even in the youtube video that he made Dave Chapelle mention to the audience. You guys trust me. You extend me Your Trust. Institutions lied to you I'm not going to lie to you that now Stewart. Stewart had his show. Chapelle is releasing these things on Youtube but I'm and I'm with you. I think chapelle could fill that void that that steward left when he left his show, but does he do enough I guess is what I'm saying. I just people wanted to hear from him. Is what I'm saying. Obviously, there's a desperation and a hunger to hear from him when he's putting out a sloppy video that he's apologizing. Sir Because he's saying it's raw and more than twenty million people are viewing it, and furthermore the word of mouth. Isn't this funny? Because it wasn't funny, there was precious little funny in it. It was A. Serious and it was angry and more than twenty million people sought it out simply because it had his name on it. It's it's a rather substantive power. Tim Kirk again is GonNa. Join US in about ten minutes. ridiculously, or I thought ridiculously. You pointed out recently that the way that Goodell. Could fix his capture nick problem was simply, and the only way was to ride into the League on a horse with Capper Nick on horseback, and assign him to either the Patriots or the cowboys make an executive ruling Yep and laughed at me. I did laugh at you. Yes, because there was a horse and there was an executive ruling, put happening on the Patriots and the cowboys. That's true. I did laugh at you, but I believe based on the general reaction to to goodell saying now. I endorse and will support Kapernick being back in the League I. DO believe that there is literally nothing these people can do to correct this problem that they've had where they lead in the wrong direction for four years, and there is literally nothing. There's no amount of money two hundred fifty million dollars over ten years as met with cynicism, there is literally nothing. A statement after a couple of statements in which we did, they said flatly we were wrong. I don't there is nothing they can do. A statement and a quarter. Billion Dollars did not work. And now cadel saying flatly that you know he support and. Supported his support means next to nothing. I mean when you've got the owner of the Ravens. Saying pray for us. The owner of the Ravens is not afraid of anything. The owner of the Ravens, a super casual talking about the ray rice stuff. Cody give me something. The NFL can do Gimme some sort of hypothesis a theory anything. They could incentivize. They could offer a team an extra second round. CODY ON ESPN radio.

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6/10/21: Former Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed files paperwork for mayoral election bid and more news

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6/10/21: Former Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed files paperwork for mayoral election bid and more news

"This is the atlanta journal constitution brought to you by organ pest control don't let bugs ruin the moment organ. Home is where the bugs aren't. It's thursday june tenth. Here's today's news. It's official qassim. Read wants to be atlanta's mayor once again. Read filed paperwork tuesday night creating a committee that will allow him to begin accepting campaign donations for the twenty twenty one race. The filing comes at a convenient time just before reads fifty second birthday party which is being used as a one thousand dollar per guests fundraiser. There have been months of speculation about reads entrance into the race. His potential candidacy seemed to solidify last month when mayor quiche lance bottoms. Dropped out next. As atlanta city leaders. Grapple with rise in violent crime police are turning to gun owners to put an end to crimes. They say are completely preventable. The police department said it has eight hundred twenty seven reports of guns stolen out of cars since the beginning of the year. Those weapons the department said are often used in violent crimes. The strong statement was made in facebook post and comes as police departments and leaders across atlanta worked to address an increase in violent crime. In the city last year the police department investigated one hundred fifty seven homicides. The most the city had seen in more than two decades so far this year atlanta police have investigated sixty two homicides. Moving on the debate over major league. Baseball's move of next month's all-star game out of atlanta will reach a courtroom in new york this afternoon a federal judge scheduled hearing on a request for a preliminary injunction blocking the games move to denver and returning into truest park. The injunction is being sought by conservative small business advocacy group job creators network. Which last week filed a lawsuit over. Mlb's early april decision to relocate the game in response to georgia's new voting law in separate court filings. Monday major league baseball called the suit political theatrics and the mlb players association called it frivolous and an abuse of the judicial process. Both argued that an injunction should be denied and the game played in denver and they say the best way to handle negative. Publicity has to get out in front of the situation. That's exactly what an atlanta rapper charged in the december stabbing of a seventeen year old dunkin employees. Did yesterday when a video of his arrest was posted to his three hundred thousand instagram followers. Markovics goolsbee. Who goes by the stage. Name day day was identified earlier this month in connection with last year's attack at the union city donut shop union city. Police said they arrested the rapper and swannee on wednesday afternoon on one count of aggravated assault. Shortly after golsby's arrest video of officers leading him away in handcuffs was posted to his instagram page. That's all for today. Check back each weekday morning for more from the atlanta journal constitution or go to ajc dot com. Have a great day. Spoken layer six steps screen door those table a family mosquitoes last mosquito eggs mason jars where mothers bloodsucking mosquitoes. Don't mosquitoes ruin the moment or can homes where the bugs aren't.

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An Imperfect night of beer watching!

Jay Bird Watching

1:21:40 hr | 1 year ago

An Imperfect night of beer watching!

"Good evening, bluejays fans welcome to Jay bird watching. We are live on twitter, if you are fortunate enough to see as their, see our beautiful faces, but if not, if you're listening to us on the podcast fear, that's quite all right. My name is Adam Corsair and joining me. Tonight is the brains of the operation. Of course. I'm talking about Greg Board, and that's no disrespect to Brennan Pentagon, who could not make it. You are very smart as well. You're definitely smarter than me, but. Craig here the brains of the operation. What's going on? Doing good man, but as far as brains go. Do you really want to give me that much credit when it's just US drinking here on camera for the for the evening? You plastered probably smarter than I am sober as a judge, let's let's be real. I am kind of like the engineer. This group so I guess that's what I'm saying. So, but yes, as we kick this off, it's nice to be live. I'm getting Kinda used to this. As a four man I'm glad you were able to introduce this to us into the audience as well. It's a cool way. interact with people finally. And even though I'm as close as out of the five hundred level like. You know. I got my social distancing with the ballpark going on just like everybody else. So where you are right now like if I imagine you being in the stadium that is where I was from my bachelor, party. Which is hilarious? Because we were mentioning, that was the same weekend that I was up celebrating with my now, wife Anna. For the that was this is where I sat for the Marco Strategy. Actually facing the action steps. My back turned to it although it was a little drunk that even that day, so oh yeah, maybe I was a little bit. So, what what would be really ironic? I'll have to check the ticket stubs, but so I watched the David Price game on Saturday and I want us who pitched the next day, was it? Wasn't no HAP- wasn't on the team yet. It was no he was on a team for that two thousand fifteen season one. WAS IT HAP-? HAP- because I think David Price Pitch Friday. Night I was the game that right after we had gotten troy to Lewinsky that I big series that we had them for yeah, and then that was like that epic. Twenty pitch at bat was shaky. frigging ballpark at the end of the game with the guys on, and he unfortunately strikes out against Marianna era. The fact that you know. That was that I kind of like okay. You know what this? Thing is for real this. Actually happened and as far as that goes, I was just really cool to see and I know. We're all starving for it now. Fall on starving. Well Let's. Let's break this all down so tonight. We have A. WE HAVE JAM packed show. We're going to talk about the state of wall. Obviously, we can't go in up without talking about the state of baseball because every week. It every fucking changes, so we have to talk about it. Forgetting about it, yeah, what? What are we GONNA do? Then, we're GONNA. We're going to transition I. DO WANNA touch on the Roy? Halladay documentary I know you saw it. Some strong opinions you've vocalized those on twitter I would like to walk. All the rest of it in the midst of the conversation. I don't want to bury the lead. Because I'm sure you're going to get fired up. which is what people want, and lastly I want to do a Mount Rushmore of Bluejays all-time bluejays, so our top four blue Jays, but let's you know what let's switch it up. Let's start with Roy Halladay documentary. Well. Let's get the. We're GONNA. Start. Yeah it's going to be a sad no, and then a pissed off. No, because of the state of baseball ended on a happy note with Mount Rush-. So For, those of you that are unaware, and if you're bluejays fan I can't imagine that you are if you are. ESPN producing an e sixty documentary on Roy. Halladay called. What was it perfect? Perfect, perfect imperfect. The story of royalities. Documenting His problems with substance abuse alcoholism. His mental health problems as well. That led to his untimely death and the circumstances surrounding the as well as the pressures that he had mostly put upon himself from according to the documentary of course. Throughout his lifetime in a career path towards baseball. There were some very positive notes. Specifically him being drafted by Toronto Him with as a young boy with braces, which was so. Weird Man It was so weird. era might have you seen a Christmas story. He looked like dude. That was the bully in a Christmas. Toy. No and Ralphie's getting beaten them and swearing up. Oh! No. Look like it did look like Michael on you that that's a good analogy, but oh my God, just seeing that flashback to that. It's like okay now. I remember being in high school now. I had braces all through my senior year, too. and. They're still crooked, just saying. It happens. When are you GONNA do thing. That they did highlight the the outstanding season that he had with Philadelphia going into the postseason. was probably one of the first times that I was ever allowing myself to root for another team so much so that I actually bought Philadelphia Phillies, spring, training hat and a holiday shares e, because like I just love the guy. He is by personal, favorite all-time Blue Jay. In this was even before his untimely death, but we'll get into that when we get to Mount Rushmore. Obviously I talked on the substance abuse issues and his wife definitely. Went all in with his documentary. It didn't seem like she was holding anything back. It didn't seem like there was a lot of Saving it for PR and stuff. What were you none of? It really seemed forced, either which was it? It was full on her being just her class act of a person that she s on this. At even a blue Jay Fan. You know back in the day when they were in, you know she was one of the very very vocal. You know of the players, wives and stuff like that. She was doing all sorts of things to help out and city a Toronto very very amazing family period right down to their. You know their son actually being drafted by the Blue Jays as round prayed into. Yes was drafted. At his dad's number, I thought that was a very classic things they didn't have to do. That wasn't last. Pick it was. They knew what he was gonNA do. They knew he was going to Penn State. There was no question it but. Very classy move for the organization, obviously highlighting stars of their. You know Mount Rushmore. Possibilities like we're going to get to, but yeah the documentary man. It didn't hold any punches on the front. The fact that you know he did suffer and had some demons. In the midst of that thing that got me going out as much as I did. Enjoy the documentary. I will never watch it again because I had the problem of the fact that you call the imperfect, which is fine, that was part of how hall of Fame Speech for Roy Halladay right and I. It was perfectly. Per Imperfect people can have perfect moments, and the problem with that whole thing was I was like okay. If you WanNa, tell me why he wasn't imperfect or he wasn't perfect. I mean you need to show me a little bit. Documentary why we thought he was perfect in the first place. And that was my trouble with I thought through the. I knew it was going to focus a lot on the demons, because they wanted to use it like a cautionary tale for people right, but in the midst of that it's on ESPN. It should have been showcased in half his career half the demons lease and I felt it was definitely a little bit more sixty forty. Three quarters. Toward the demons part, they didn't even show the fact that in the second major league start he homeless threw a no hitter right that was a missed opportunity there to begin with was a whole reason why you show that it was perfect. Right? At least as far as baseball goes on a baseball diamond. Where we all you know fell in love with this guy, right? They seem to a fast forward. In the early portions of his career, and that seems to be the narrative when it comes to Roy, Halladay as initial tenure with the I say initial before getting called down. To single a, he did have high expectations coming in rightfully so and I don't want say. He immediately shat the bed because he didn't. As you're pinpointing. Clashes yes. Yes, it was sort of reminiscent till like like an Errand Sanchez when he first came obviously, Sanchez came up in the pen, but It wasn't nearly I. Don't want people to get the impression that it was a kyle dre. Back Fall from grace. It wasn't. It wasn't nearly as badly. Yeah like it back to grace to fall. Notice back to kyle but. It was one of the very few bloodlines have not turned bluejays right. But. You know I thought the documentary was very revealing. I thought seeing his family like seeing his sister talked about it. That was very touching. It was very. Emotional for me because you could see how much more the family suffered in the midst of this to which you knew was happening, but Then I didn't know his dad was a pilot. Really hit home. Some all that sold. Very strong family to be able to get through something like this. Yeah, his dad kept his composure quite well and. I thought he. He summarized things with a with a very even keel and I appreciated that. Same thing with. Roy's wife like for me was just. Seeing that the dynamic of everything and like watching replays of post game interviews when he was with Philly. Not really knowing at the time. You don't really recognize that in real time like. I don't mean to be disrespectful -nology, but like when you're watching an athlete after a bad game and he's like sort of down on himself and you see him like. Not Be as like to reporters you talking up to a this is the competitor with the bad game. You're not thinking. This guy is kind of fucked up right now. And Dazs Situa-. Yeah, we're all right, right you you don't want to. You. Don't want to assume that all this guy's like under the influence of some sort of opiates or whatever desks the furthest thing from my mind in my mind, especially with Roy Halladay. Is this guy such a competitor that he just wants to tell reporters right now? Fuck off and don't and don't bother me. Leave me. Me Alone, whereas the reality of the situation is that he was suffering in so in that aspect, I think you nailed it in the beginning as being a cautionary tale that this is sort of like an illumination on the fact that hey, like even these people that we view as being legitimately robotic like I remember the old, the the picture of Roy Halladay with like the Terminator Terrible. Photoshop Photoshop is yeah. Yeah back when he was with Jays with the angry bird. I'm just like man. This guy was so focused and so robotic that on the inside behind the diamond. He was a normal human being, and I think with that obviously when you break it down, you know he's a normal human being, but us has fans especially at the time when my youth I'm not thinking that so for me. It was a very revealing documentary for that purpose. I do appreciate it. Yeah. So. Yeah that's exactly where I was with it, I knew. Everybody has their demons and everything, and you would expect that of any professional athlete have maybe an some. Right on this on the scrutiny allow those things that they always are, and it makes me wonder like what would have happened within his baseball career if he wasn't trained to somewhere like Philadelphia. Philadelphia latched onto Roy Halladay before he even took one step out toward that mild and already loved him just based on ten years. What what happens if he goes to New York? And ended up having a season like AJ Burnett did a king of the world in all my God, what happened fall from grace yet exactly where you even had a story of Ray Halladay without Toronto Philadelphia. What I just don't think he would have I mean. Anybody would never heard and the horrors that you know the fact that his wife was saying that he threw up before every game, and it just shows you maybe I to shock that. And these cautionary tales. It's amazing that there wasn't enough help are enough. People is Lavar as a goes. I can't believe that in our AJ Burnett, actually on this Documentari-, he wrote one of the nicest articles I've ever read on something that was more or less like the obituary on steroids and that I highly recommend that to anybody on the Players Tribune to go read what Aj Burnett wrote I think it was about a month after he had passed. And it literally just paints a hell picture. How regardless of these demons how respected and why? He was respected the way he was period. Did you think it was a nice touch to have someone like a rod on the documentary giving so much props like we give a Rod, a lot of Shit and the right we do like you know I'll never forgive him for calling got it rounding second base into third? I'll never forgive that I. I remember that like it was yesterday, but still or dealing and MVP from Carlos Delgado, when we on the MVP Amazon in two thousand three with shellman that we're talking about you're saying. I was shocked that he was on his documentary, but ups, you know. Did a very good job. Do Yeah. I think when it comes to these players that. Are Glorified in the game may be a little bit more than Roy Halladay I'm not taking anything away from holidays like accomplishments or his legendary status. I think for the Casual Baseball Fan. He's not the one that comes to mind when you think of top players within the past like to years, and he should be but I just don't really have the mind you know. Would you agree with that? Yeah, for the better part of the decade. He was the pitcher in baseball. The only guy that might even rival him as you're talking Pedro Martinez. And there's no comparison. WHA, those two stand out above the rest and just knowing that the fact that I was honestly shocked that he was the first ballot hall. Famer I really was. I really thought the fact that he had the pedigree one way or the other to make the hall of Fame I. Don't know if the death thing did help him or not with getting on that I. Don't WanNa be the guy that says that because I think it's horrible that people are voting for him. Because of the you know what's going on right, but he was that good. There is no way of saying anything different. There is only two people a major league baseball history that have thrown no hitters Laos, Don Larsen and. Reality. So. And, God. Just. I really don't know what to say. As far as beating him I think you said you had not wants to know how. We. We were in Cooperstown and we were at a ball game. They did used to do the exhibition games there right? Yeah, the major league players and they have. Off the. Game guys for runner before they more or less the AA, young guys that play the actual game. But re right holiday when we pulled into cooperstown from steinway outside town, because there's more or less only practices right to stay at in Cooperstown, so we drove in the parking lot right there at doubleday field, and my brother and my Buddy Jeff's son. Were wandering around and we're like Oh my God. There's some guys warming up in the field. And until the game's about to start the whole, you can literally go in there. After a day of school and go play baseball game on double. They feel that. Know. We're in town with no event going on that day and the day it was blue Jays. We walked in there and walk up the stands and right holidays. They're warming up with Scott downs. Just goofing around. Having a good time and we had, we sat there in the bleachers didn't bother him. Didn't do anything just sat there and Kinda you know just watch them having fun and goofing around a little bit obviously getting ready and getting their working, and the two of them afterwards came over to the three of us, and so hey, you guys. Are you doing it? Come into the game later. You know all that stuff and sure enough they they actually asked us. Hey, guys think we could sign for you. And you know we just drew a couple. Baseball's and I got the ball up here on my mantle from Scott. Down and Roy Halladay signing during that day. So. Those are the kind of Nice Class Act. Things that makes it's heartbreaking ear that outside of a baseball field. The had all that stuff going on right and I. It's you know. I don't want to Belabor the point too much, but it's definitely like an internal pressure kind of thing and I don't think that's necessarily unique, or we're talking about athletes today. Right I think some of the most focused athletes. A lot of the downfalls of being so talented, so focused is, you may have some sort of internal issues and internal suffering when it comes to striving to be perfect and striving to be. The best you can possibly be for a team, and it has its ups and has downs so for me I thought you know it was a documentary for those that are looking for an inside look at a guy that would otherwise be considered robotic and very quiet, and very under the radar outside of like blue. Jays and Philadelphia Fan Hood very under the radar when it comes to his talent, so if you haven't seen if you had another the opportunity to see it very much, encourage you to do so. If you have an ESPN account or whatever I'm sure you can find online. I'm not advocating for illegal streams. Yeah if you find a stream. I won't tell you if you happen to be here in the states. It's on Hulu right now. They go all right now. So many episodes that he sixty stuff, so it holds like the first blast five or something like that. Although I am looking forward to seeing Bruce Lee this week on thirty for thirty thirty. They come like water my friend. Got was bad ass. Man, speaking a bad assets right? Next Topic Cheer Yeah Let. Let's talk about my pisses off so the state of baseball. I tweeted this out. passed in ya-hui ESPN ESPN. ESPN now. It's been somebody else at some. He was with Yahoo. Doesn't look good. The MLB Players Association submitted a proposal. If you want to pause this episode right now in fast forward to last week's episode, we touched on what the players proposed to the MLB. But if you don't WanNa, do that. Basically, it wasn't. Yeah. It was one hundred fourteen game season full prorated salary. They basically would be playing the playoffs for free, but that's because they're getting their full prorated salary. And if any player felt uncomfortable playing, they would be able to opt out completely yet still received their salary when I read that I was like. This is going to be a big. No, no, when it comes to. Comes to the to the MLB and their union. Accepting this obviously, they declined it. They didn't give a counter to the BPA. which to me was like this is knocking. Baseball's going to be dead so I. Guess San Marcus Stroman might have been right last week. Yes, yes, and. Life after baseball was the BAS-. Basically, so, what I'm when I'm understanding right now is that the MLB is looking for around? Fifty Games I want to say fifty games with the full prorated salary When I see fifty games on thinking. What's the point? Yeah. Guess My's will be around Robin. Will League tournament right. But right now see the only point is the fact. That is some of the other rumors that we were reading about that. I think you actually brought my attention to over the weekend here because I need being in Rochester New York, I would love to root for the Blue Jays playing in Buffalo. They go, and now you can. Only on I got this to let's go. Buffalo savers okay. Hockey's not my thing, but sure. Why not. Let's go buffalo. I'd love to see Buffalo Bisons baseball if that's where the Blue Jays end up having to play their home games, because they don't want to have everybody going up and over the border back and forth billion times. As long as they're playing, that's my philosophy on. If it's fifty games great at something that least, maybe we might get a sampling of Eight Pearson for example. Maybe that is the perfect reason to skip a development stage for him in Buffalo. You know he's only going to be pitching. What out of that navy? Ten fifteen I was going. Say Yeah Yeah. and. All the all the inning limits in the world that you want fine, fuck it. is thrown out there. What the Hell is it GonNa do other than the fact that he will be facing major league hitters which in all reality I think he could do. Would you? How would you feel about him if they do do this? Exclusively making him like an opener. That yeah. Lineup. Thing I don't WanNa. See Him as much. The Aaron Sanchez experiment actually works for the Toronto Blue Jays. I. Don't think that's the right way to handle the guy that literally everybody is clambering for, and there's already major league baseball players that have seen him and go wow! You. Know I don't recall when Aaron Sanchez was coming up through double and triple A. That anybody was going well. He's going to be a CY. Young Award winner without even thinking about it. This guy up for hall of Fame Ballot Right now that is basically Jim Callus from the. Fight lyme right now, go on, you know just bring them up. Go ahead. Go nuts like how he was basically putting Vlad Junior in hall of fame last year, and he wanted the his thing was. He wanted to see Vladi Junior. Do Vlad Seniors Hall of fame speech and they can do the flip when. That'd be cool very amusing. Yeah, because they're very comical, both of them but. But that's I think even the at least in the Blue Jays sense of this whole thing atom. Fifty Games is actually a good amount of experience for this young team. So then let's say next year runs into it. Maybe that's all we need it. Could be yet. So let's rewind back to thing. You touched on about the Blue Jays playing buffalo so right now the. US Homeland Security is granting athletes the ability to cross borders from wherever they're from. into the United States, it doesn't matter where they're from so there from international players wherever wherever they are, they're allowed to come to the United States. Without any sort of issues or setbacks, the problem is is that in Toronto they are not allowing any games with or without fans are not allowing. This leaks the the issue, not really an issue the Toronto. Blue Jays have a unique. Set of circumstances that they're minor league team triple team. Obviously, if you're listening to this, you know is in Buffalo, so if if they're only like maybe an hour and a half two hours away, they'll be able to to have these fifty games. Should they go in Buffalo without fans? Which is fine, but you're right and I do think that this is going to be strangely a case of like. Quadruple eight like this is legitimate. Low post nine to quadruple A.. We're going to see in like. I. Don't know how serious the players are gonNA. Take this I'm not saying that they're gonNA. Say Fuck it all, but at the same time. If you're not an immediate contending team, 'cause legitimately now, every game counts like every single. Thing that we always betcha about everything this is this is like. Wet Dream Right now. Everything counts everything so if everything counts in your, you're not legitimately expecting to contend, but you're welcome to the surprise and stuff, and you don't really have a trade deadline to. kind of flirt, with. To me I, I would approach as you know. Quadruple A. and give nate pearson like maybe Max like two three innings a game, maybe even that that might be pushing, but even at that. Let's say you do get on that. Ten starts only pitches. Five innings allowed fifty six. Yeah, but you don't want. Blow his arm out. Oh I! Get that, but there's also a stretch i. Thought that there's two extremes to this and I'd heard John smoltz say this a bunch of times out of all the players in. Recent Baseball History John smoltz wholesome right now some ranking on this subject for me, I think. The year. He Got Tommy John Surgery. He said was the year before that he was actually limiting his innings and limiting his workouts and things like that, then it gets fricking hurt after that he let the thing up and frigging cap it hot. and. It was excellent. At a mementos. And it's I think it's one of those muscle things you don't use it. You lose it kind of situations just as much it is. Use it too much. It's ethic, so I agree that using Napier's and right now, too much might be. Might be crazy. I'm not saying I'm we're. On out than us. Get fifty game season a pitch every damning. Again back in the thirties baseball, we only have one starting pitcher pitches. But the fact that I would like to see him, he he he approached hundred innings. I believe last year I'd love to see him. Not Take too big a slide back for that for such a young arm. Yeah I. Mean Like I definitely want to get his reps in right and I think like. What's confusing or not necessarily confusing, but what's weird about? The situation is probably around this time at the earliest, assuming a normal regular season. He might have been called up by now. Maybe maybe June's a little too early. They might have waited until after the trade deadline to. Allah chips fall. Right. You never know where contending right now in a major league baseball season, and you maybe don't think you're getting what you should be at your fifth starter. How do you not bring him up? That's what I'm saying right now. He ought to be the designated fifth starter if something went wrong. and. Knowing the Blue Jays something wrong so but I'd be bringing K. and everybody up. Yeah, I would just let him go rottweiler at this point. I'm not going to go out and look for dumpster. Dive arms for the. If I'm not going to have a minor league baseball season would just bring these kids. especially any of their on the forty man roster already like Anthony, K, for example, there's no reason hal that he shouldn't be especially on those days. Let's say they do the opener thing for Nate Patterson. You've got. Anthony K to do the next three next. Back to your normal bullpen, right, that's not anything too bad. It's like what they were doing. Last year was what we're fought but I'd actually pay. To See Nate Pearson application again imagine that that'd be ridiculous so this brings up an interesting question that I kinda want to throw. It's a little curve ball. You know baseball puns aside, but. When it comes to the aspect of service time MLB I think. In Protection of the teams in the GM's and the ownership. I think they're not inclined to give these players. A sense of. Any this year doesn't quote. Unquote count towards their service time. Player not play so th I think like when you have a case like Vladimir Guerrero Junior. That's advantageous for the blue JAYS GM? That's very disadvantageous for Vladimir. Junior so like! How do you think they should approach because you can't necessarily cut that in half? You know what I mean. Yeah I think they're going to have to find some balance if that is not in this deal for the games that they are going to be playing the players association players. Association really dropped the ball. That is a very big deal. Especially for how they're pushing things for the next collective bargaining agreement, which is really starting to look pretty bad from the way these negotiations are going for this shortened season. Stop the fact that Tony. Clark is slapping aside everything going fuck you pay me basically. Sounded very joke as I just don't see. How that benefits anything, but the owners and that's where the whole problem right now is, and I do not think that is going to happen I think if they if they don't find some happy middle. The players association while not shook. Not Go for anything. Short of a is this year counts sorry deal. I would be very sad, very. I'd be settled layers. I really wouldn't even know what to say on that whole thing. 'cause you know, Vlad. Junior is GonNa get paid one all day every day, but somebody like Anthony K. not getting a frigging service thing I'll be working his way out of the forty man roster last season. Yeah, that's a big deal for him. Not Saying he's going to be bad or anything. We Love them and I think he's destined to be like a third starter, and that's not gonNa make. Vlad junior money I'm sorry. No. Now. I do think the only fair way to go about it, and this is you know trying to have a pragmatic balance of business and morals here especially when it comes to the players. Because again I'm always four players getting however much money. They deserve like I am. Take the bank on every time. But for me, it's if you don't play. There was no service to be timed. That's different. I think if they have any short and season. That's where you figure out where this is going. Sorry nothing happened. Exactly you can't service. How do you build me with? I didn't do anything it's. Zero Right. Yes. But for those younger listeners, if you multiply by zero, zero zero, or if you're like us, and you've been drinking all night and you forgot that. It's one right now. My fear is is if they pay them. So if the players get the salary without the games where I don't necessarily see that happening, but if that tends to happen. Then that does that kind of should count towards your service time because you got paid, even though you didn't play, yeah. And I think that they're gonNA. have to find something like you know like how. You played the show. Your wife and that little service clock thing. If you have card, it's going to be like instead of being a full season. It'll be like a point five. Have you measured on kind of measurement to gauge? If your guy was gonna be arbitration knowledgeable, right, who really why? It's coming down to imagine that like in two thousand, and what is it two, thousand and twenty five or lad is a free agent. Come July like. fucking weird. God, but and that's how. That's how the video game tracks. It's impossible for track anyway. But in real life, you know they played. I think is lately digging on the forty man roster. And then after they do that, so many games they play in the majors or along. They've been on the forty man roster, yes. So, there's gotta be a away in there, though too like if you were on that tipping points. To be eligible at the major league level for that right and you did play this half season. Sorry, free agent. For coming season yeah yeah it's. Again these are issues that I am. Personally glad I do not have to deal with because this is just a lot of mathematics money. Yeah like. I told you the beginning. I'm not the smart one of the groups so I don I don't know how I would handle this, but eight is. On my desk, maybe something useful. Maybe I've tried. It doesn't work for me so if it works for you. Maybe your desk is just. Maybe you're smarter than my desk. But when it comes to those. Issues, and when it comes to the issue play, I personally was all this bickering back and forth. You see other sports leagues figuring it out NBA. No problem. Let's just go back with the twenty two team format. All you other teams that are planning whatever you suck my no problem. We'll sounds like my sabres. That's what I'm saying like. No, no problem I think the NHL is unclear par to figuring out, or they're close to figuring out there, basically following the NBA format. Only, so many teams are gonNA. Make it and it was more or less if you were above at the end of the season where it did end basically where they thought it was gonna be done, and over with period they're going to pick up with anybody. That's about this level. Okay, unfortunately the Buffalo Sabres. Drought continues. But they still Abel's man. None of my teams can win. Talking! The playoffs bills. Yeah, and how long. How long did it take us to get back I start drinking. Remember. tyrod took us to the playoffs playoffs two years earlier with McDermott so the last year before that though is what flutie. Yes, yeah, that's where I'm talking. And the Blue Jays were at what twenty three. So. Three two thousand fifteen to twenty two years. Sabres same thing. Eight years yeah just. I'm just GONNA have to get back into watching basketball again. My daughter starting to play is count the Rings. That's all I'm saying. One anyways one. Listen the blue. Jays though but anyway sorry. Go One more than the bill. So there you go. Yeah. I know I'm with you. I'm with you, but. I personally don't WanNa. Be The guy that's like cynical about everything. I kind wanted to be a real about it. NBA's figuring out. MLS is figuring out. NHL's figuring out fucking. NASCAR's figuring out MLB can't figure it out. Dude, you're doomed I'm sorry you're doomed, and this is not good for the future baseball. Now the young players we've touched on this not good, not one stinking bit because the fact is is they're already on all those sports? Yes, I'm sorry I'm even LUMP NASCAR into this. Baseball, fans. Are you and I in the hardcore fans, and then pretty much nobody else. There is a certain. Group of people that love baseball and a big. Don't get me wrong, but I'm sorry. The rest of the people have to go to the game and if you don't have the games to go to for a social event. I, it's going to be really rough. I think even if we do have this fifty game season to have them actually get what they're expecting. You know it's going to be one of those things I think that they will get enough viewership everybody clamoring for sports. And of course the gambling. You Know Vegas. Elite happy again. But it's GonNa be hard to. Hard enough to get fans interested so as either be feast or famine situation where they're so excited over this fifty game season because it's OK. Well it might be a nine inning baseball game, but I don't have to watch it from April to September right. Maybe the fifty games as sweet number right there in the middle, but it seems to me like it's just enough to tease me that I'm GonNa wish baseball lasts through December. See like if I see a fifty game series season I'm just kind of like I, don't I? Don't care like I just. At, that point was the point, but maybe that's just me failing to adjust in refusing to adjust I I. don't know to see I'm sure when it comes on, I'll be thirsty and I'll definitely watch it, but especially when Vlad soon as he starts getting, you know whatever going bogus. The hair flowing in the wind. You'RE GONNA, clamoring for a plus you know you have these. Chee. Shenanigans every every Friday or what? We have to keep up, but like you when it comes to. You know, let's just say that the season is scrapped altogether at. In the MLB D. don't get their shit together and come to an agreement for me. It's Kinda like you don't have steroids to back into this game to reignite interest kind of like you didn't ninety four and ninety five. You don't and we'll. After ninety five, I should say. Maybe the key then is to do something a little bit more organic with tweaking the game and it's like you're risking alienating the hardcore fans that have been with you throughout this time, but at the same time that isn't as long lasting as introducing new fan, so maybe the key is to have a short and season, maybe even sure in games into like flirt with these things that people have been a floating out there like seven inning games, or like starting a runner at second in an extra innings or whatnot maybe. Right to me that ballgame. So. If you make it to a full cow. Let's bring out the beach ball. Let's see what happens. or The corked bats at that point, bring on a corked bat. You get a fungal bat instead of. Oh to. Bring out a golf ball in the Middle Bat. It's GONNA end up like that show on frigging ABC. What is it about the coughing? Steph Curry frigging does. Yes But like what do you do? Maybe that so if they do something drastic like that and twenty twenty one. Are you going to stop watching or you're going to be like I need to sort of adjust what I view as traditional in order to sort of conform to this new view of baseball for the sake of keeping its longevity ally for the younger crowd. Yeah, I, think launch the guy that's running major league baseball right now. I'm sorry to say for everybody. Nothing's changing I. Stuck in his ways, and he doesn't listen to anything and for most reasons I am very happy with that, but there are some things in our game that could change and maybe bring in some younger fans. The first thing is actually marketing your players, and we can't even get with the ownership of the Players Association on Jack Shit. I'm sorry to say there's always going to be players like Mike Trout Boba shot. Whoever at that point that are not marketed properly for all of league baseball to bring viewers I will. Will tell you right now. That's one thing that the Blue Jays of elise done in the last probably five ten years well period marketing their players the fact that they had their own cover for Major. League, baseball the show every year, then it showcase his age blue. Jay Players. The whole country is a very very one off thing that in all reality is pretty much lost in the shuffle, but Laura's Gabrielle Junior came out the gate this year, and actually did something really really good was on that damn cover, right? Now the you're in you know for me. It's I do remember that one of the proposals from the MLB to the is to have their players miked up to have a more interactive experience for the. Things ever in spring show awesome. Do I'm saying it's awesome, but the MLB like no I'm just afraid. That assigns stealing thing. It's fresh in everybody's minds, and I might have saw one of the best tweets I've seen in a long time with everything that's going on in the news at a chronic one of the twins guys I. Don't forget who was krona virus. I hate you police I. Don't hate you something else and then Oh. Yeah, by the way Astros I still hate you. Get like how awesome would that be? You can hear the interactions if The guys chatting if someone walks too I, if if if Boba shed walks to I and he's at first base with whoever they're chatting it up and whatnot to like I wanna hear those conversations I want to hear that, and if you can sort of prevent the opposition from getting a hold of that audio, that'd be cool. I don't know how like that would be in terms of the workings, but at the same time like let's just have fun with it. It's fifty games. Who fucking cares at this point? You might as well right. So, I'M NOT GONNA lie. I don't think it gets any better than frigging Kris. Bryant sitting in the frigging Batter's box doing the Henry Rowing Gardner. Got Oh, I got him. I got him I got while pitches coming. Yeah that I saw that highlight, and I was literally I. Think I actually was on the ground. What rolling and laughing I really don't think there's anything different about the whole thing. It was just ridiculous. And the thing is you know these things are going through the players minds all day every day in the Games, and there is not anything weird going on that appoint where it's creepy or anything like that. It's these guys are playing fricken game for their living and. Tell me it. Yes, it is a paycheck, but the fact that are having a good time all day every day and Then Kim and resort where the best period and I just thought that was hilarious. In the fact, that and I. Really think they should find more guys like that and just roll the dice. WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO? Something doesn't work, and then you scrap it for right now. That is the perfect reason to at least throw out good content on twitter. Even guys listen even if you don't go the twitter out, and you WANNA be greedy. Talk about it in charge them than being the fans us more. If you WANNA watch games for free on twitter, fine or on your cable broadcast and find, we won't include that sort of in game audio when it comes to the players, but if you want to pay, and you want to buy MLB. Will will allow. That might be explicit, but you're paying for it so was not breaking any FC law so at that point I'm like I wanNA. See that. Microphone Trevor Bauer the entire on I'm listening. I'm listening. He's talking to that whole time on the mound to. Listen to way office yes. And then like. Comes fuck. That was the best reaction ever. If anybody was going to be miked up in that situation, Tito might have been the one have. What? Would you pay extra to see that I? Would percents? I'm paying for one hundred something dollars every year for them dot. TV thing anyway because you and I never get to actually watch bluejays. States the hall south of the sixty. So. It's just there's there's so many little things that they could be doing and if they aren't going to take it badge that in a shortened season. When are you going to do it? If. You're going to experiment with things around the game. This is the perfect time to do. It agreed to the dam fifty games. Whatever them I'll be asking because one way or the other you owners losing something. That's what I'm saying. If you WANNA, make more revenue. Allow them to Mike. Up in charge. Fans extra because I promise you when it comes to this like you. If you have the opportunity to say okay, we're going to. We're going to broadcast. All the Blue Jays Games on sports net with piped in crowd noise with. The without the players piped-in right. Katie, Oh is doing it leaves and have like the fucking stuffed animals and shit right. Larry's. have and I'd be like all right. That's cool for free, but fans. If you WANNA, pay extra no crowd noise. Unless you want it, you have the opportunity to pick and choose. You can choose to have the crowd noise plugged in with no player interaction. You can choose to just had the fan interact player interaction, or you can have both I would pay. I would pay two hundred bucks a year for that I for fifty games. I would pay two hundred bucks dead for the owners situation that is greater than all hells. Know that the reason that these things have not happened for. Where we are right now is the perfect microcosm of why Major League Baseball, sailing. The fact that they don't even like highlights. How long does it take to see a Jose? Bautista backflip after the bat flip just because they won't release the actual media to anybody you got. Luckily. We have a lot of good bluejays fans that do a very good job of making gifts. Jersey you guys out there, but as far as that goes major league baseball is missing an opportunity to bring in fans because of that whole aspect, and if they don't hurry up and get with the Times as far as technology goes I'm sorry another Homerun Derby game on my fucking. IPAD and quite gonNa cut it. So it's not well hopefully they get their shit together. And hopefully they come to some sort of agreement like I said. If you're going to do a fifty game season, I don't like it on paper like Prima Facia I don't like it, but same time. If you're going to have these extra hurdles or hurdles, extra bonuses like piping in the players and having to hear what they're saying like explicit all. Sign me up on in a month. I'm all in I'll pay two hundred bucks fifty games on MLB. If you're listening I, know you are if you WanNa hear I wanNA. Mike Trout's inner thoughts all. He's chewing up frigging major league. Baseball pitchers saying. Oh. That's right. Okay, power outages. fastball often high off see. I WanNa I. WanNa. Hear managers like complain about stuff. Complain About 'cause I want to hear his own pyre manager fight. I want to hear those I want to hear them verbatim everything. Yeah, I wanna hear like the fact that I heard these rumors as Paul molitor when he was, the manager of the twins was calling out what was going to be throwing that next pitch, and he was right like ninety percent of the time towards headers were saying I want to hear it. Why don't WanNa? Perfect all well speaking of Paul Monitor Paul Monitor Paul Molitor. Let's move on to our Mount Rushmore. Tell you right now. He is on it, but a nice little segue. Just have them just. mentioned. Someone from the past, but all right so when it comes to a Mount Rushmore we pick our top four bluejays of all time Let's just go bash hard enough as that's what I'm saying like. It's really hard to narrow down to four bullets. Just go back and forth I'm going to give you the floor first. Who is your I? It doesn't have to be in any particular order, but I I have a feeling our number one. They're going to be the same so I have a strange feeling that you are also thinking the guy. We were talking about the top of the hour. Yeah Yeah strange. Very strange, no one would pick right hell. No I didn't do anything while I was a blue Jay. So No right holidays the shoe in my opinion, the cornerstone player of our franchise. Showcases the best of what Blue Jays. Players have been and will ever be right the fact that the story a months at south is crazy, you know. Had all the prospect power in the world? COMES UP. Okay this first couple of you know the no hitter and then China going downhill. Yeah, he still is on record as the highest Major League Baseball era for a guy s pitch over like the minimum sixty seventy innings or season or something like that. Something like that starting pitcher ten point eight two. Yes, yes, and then goes down in tears. It all down. I remember watching him when he came up man and it was literally. He couldn't go anymore over the top. Yeah, there was no way of doing anything different than that Nice beautiful three-quarter arm slot comes back when he comes back from the minors and works all the way like literally from being all backup. How do you not fall in love with something like that? Homegrown talent and I don't like not Canadian talent understanding when it comes to going up through the system homegrown talent. I? The Blue Jays took a chance on young kid was young. He was for me at a time. Where like that was my coming of age in life and in baseball? Right so I'm I'm thirty four right now, so watching him during the the. Terrible Times of baseball and It was a treat every single time every fifth day. It was just a treat to watch and I just can't. I can't say enough good things about a man like for me. Having the ability to have someone like that on your team. The closest thing at that time, and this is not even a good comparison. The closest thing at that time was Ted Lilly and. That great, but still like you were able to have. Roy Halladay, produce this the these these gems weekend week out these amazing games, and it's oftentimes like the longest times. It was just incredible to see so for me having him as my number one. I personally think he's. Really hard to put up against Alamar like he is for me. My favorite Blue Jay and I'd say very close to being the greatest bluejays full-time. And Now, you're going to segue points here. If I was going to go number two. Is. Full on easily. Player of all time, and as much as I love Roy. Halladay very very close competition for Roberto Almar holidays. And I I grew up wearing the number twelve. In. And because I love him Earl Alamar I was the only guy I I always had that little sense of pride knowing that I knew some I. The my favorite player was just as good as the other people that everybody else loves the Ken. Griffey, junior, Frank Tallis's and everything like that, because that was always the argument in my house. Would my brother being a white sox fan at the time growing up? Yeah, sneaky right? He eventually went over to the evil empire and I mostly blame his now wife for that. She's Nice I can't I can't. Better than a red sox fan for me Pinterest Jump On the bandwagon. He actually joined rape the the Yankee Empire crap on the Dow inclined, so I can only be so upset. But in the midst of that, Roberto Alomar. Honestly the thing that I caught I with Roberto. Almar, watching him on sportscenter and stuff. Because you know how it is here in the states, we don't get the pleasure of being able to watch baseball games back then we were kids. The Internet was of leads. No such thing now there's this you know. Dial Up. That made like a screeching weird noise in the. The only thing you had was all sports and sports and stats, Inc.. You could've watched live. Jail highlights nothing crazy. So the only time I was able to get highlights was for. On Sports Center in the morning, just just watching Roberto Alamar be as cool as the other side of the pillow. was. A sheer beauty and it was mostly his defense I actually fell in love. Right I because. Regardless of the fact that he was always one of the best hitters on the teen. That cloth my God dude. There is literally in my opinion, no better defensive second baseman in all of Major League baseball history. Yeah I make an argument with a COP. Many gold gloves. Over that long period. Yeah, I can get there. Jorgen offense of right. You know things like yeah. Is it controversial for me to say that I still think Johnny. Mack is the best defensive player we've ever had. I wouldn't be shocked by that. okay, Johnny like maybe metric. Don't remember, don't forget. We actually had Omar Vizquel for a year. That's true. Yeah, but he was. He was drawing on baseball's towards the end of that year. So, but have you seen? Have you seen that video though on twitter is like he's like you know. The ball and All of a sudden you see him. In, the balls in the glove and you didn't even know what the hell, not even kidding. You can't slow down that footage. Quick enough to actually see Omarska move ball from one. So. It ends all in that to me Ribeiro. Almar is probably the the stud that all round player that we were had been looking for. As a baseball fan in Toronto for years, and finally were able to get, and it didn't hurt to change a trade, a guy that was probably destined to be part of this whole conversation here for this Mount Rushmore if he wasn't. I gotta be you know he's just been outplayed by guys on. That's Tony. Fernandez runs saw Yeah, so for me. Alamar is I think he's the defacto greatest bluejays all time. I think that with everything that he was able to do the clutch hitting and as you mentioned the fielding. Especially that nineteen ninety two world series like it's just I still tribute that home run to ask that we were we. All of a sudden were relevant. Yes, the men of joke. It was a shift choke artists. Yes, it was a momentum shift to right after that. The Hughes, the first to be inducted right. He's technically the only bluejays conduct law. Halliday was like both, or whatever like Iraq? Roberto Almar is the only trial blue to be Blue Jay, hat. Are I believe. I think there's ten or eleven players that played with the Blue Jays are in the hall of fame, right? The ball monitors the field negroes. You know that we had for here and there, so yes, so that thinks that lend credence to his status as a blue Jay on Turner's agenda status he is. To me, the greatest Blue Jay of all time. It's one of those things that if you're a younger fan and you're just getting into baseball, you have within the past decade and you haven't done the homework when it comes to Roberto Alamar. I strongly suggest you even his tenure after the Bluejays I. strongly suggest that you look up this place. highlights in this. If you watch them full games with even better if you can watch if nothing else washed the nine, hundred, ninety, two and ninety three world series all the games straight through. Trying to Segue for next week show, yeah! I don't want to do it early, saying. T's at the minute. So like I made this distinction before about the greatest versus Becerra like when it comes to the raptors, the greatest raptor of all times kyle, lowry, the best raptor of all time is Leonard. So there's that distinction. The very yeah, the greatest to me. Blue Jay of all time is Roberto. Alamar, but I think in a way the best and this is my three is Josh Donaldson. I think Josh is the best splooge like I cannot. Maybe it's because the gap between Roberto Alomar in two thousand fifteen when Josh Donaldson came up, was set on fire, long hair McKnight when you see Josh Donaldson but to me. I have not been so thrilled and captivated by someone playing on a blue field since Roberto Alamar, watching Josh Allens and I so for me. He's my third guy in the Mount Rushmore Yeah. That Twenty fifteen season we've talked about a lot of people like us were. We knew a little bit about what Josh Donaldson had been doing it in Oakland comes into this. Instantly sets the world on. Or is not any real different way of saying it. Is that big of an analogy? This dugout completely changes and it was championship team out of Spring Training. Yes, there had to be a few pieces added later out fact to really push it over the curve to where we really probably should have won the world series in twenty fifteen. But, Josh Donaldson guys come on I'll. Everytime he stepped into the batter's box. You felt like something special was going to happen. Just like when Roberto Almar was playing with the Blue Jays. This isn't as much as I love Joe Carter Paul Modern the rest of the land. Co Company. You didn't get that feeling when Johnny Oh stepped into the batter's box. There's this intensity you know things electric. As Josh Josh's comes in and I think a lot of that he's he's cemented himself as a blue Jay staple with those first couple walk offs after joining the team and twenty fifteen, and then continued to make that at regular thing for the whole trick in cease and. It might be a short burst as far as all these other guys that were that were career bluejays, but the fact that Oh, my God, there is no big, no better sample size of any bluejays career player than what Josh Styles and contributed to Blue Jays history. It's funny. The the irony of this all is that when it comes to Josh Donaldson. He's everything within two years that we thought Brett. Lawrie was going to be entire career with the blue. Jays Laurie jokes when I'm drinking. You. You can't separate the two because like at the time Brett Lawrie was this Canadian darling that the movies were so attached to in? It's more because of the image rather than the production right whereas Josh Donaldson had both right, he had the swagger, and it was sort of like an under the radar swagger like Brett Lawrie was so intense, and it was more like explicit with his intensity bread race. In the sleaze and the tattoos, and the arguing with umpires and shit, but when it came to Josh Donaldson like you came to the plate and you're just like. Whole. This guy was like got to go in TV. Yes, and for me, he is like all though like his peak with the Blue Jays was only like. Two years that he still everyone wants to highlight two thousand fifteen, and for good reasons, but two thousand sixteen was as good like almost as good for it really was. Not a reason of one. MVP back to back. Yeah, just Mike Trout I'm sorry might try. I just think it's still amazing that in that timeframe there, but that is. I was last couple years in Oakland into his. Toronto Blue Jays tenure. The best war producers all of Major. League baseball are Mike Trout in Josh. and. That that's that's something. Everybody knows what might trout. And it just nothing but destroy pitching. Shattered dreams for pitchers. And hitters. And but I. I. That was the perfect acquisition for a team and I. Honestly, if the frigging as Tang next and the blue jays aren't knocking on that door again for Matt, Chapman. I'M GONNA BE UPSET. I mean that'd be great. That'd be you know it's it's. I, just missed the time and even his last year last year rather with Atlanta hours just like you did well man like sort of had a research to. Here, yeah, he he played very well, so he was obviously dealing with some physical issues with during his tenure with the Blue Jays, and then when he got shipped off, but Even been about tertir. Yes, yes, maybe maybe that's why they. They shifted it to actual Dir in the Infield. But it's. It's something that I don't think any Jays fans I was fortunate enough. That were fortunate enough to wash it in two, thousand, Fifteen, twenty, sixteen. You can talk about David Price. And I don't want to bury the lead. When it comes to the other player I'm saying, but you can talk about David, price. You can talk about Edwin. You can talk about mark stroman Aaron Sanchez. Russell Martin during that time. You know what you're saying just. The only player I'm not purposely mentioning will be the other guy and my top four, but you can talk about all these other even Gibney you can talk about these these personalities that really made a difference to Lewinsky. That really made a difference but Josh. Johnson's the one that really push it over the edge. See Ruin it for me. I thought it was John Gibbons. Who's the guy that was going? Far? I thought about IT I. Want she takes the show here. I'm just assuming you're gone host Bachelet. It! Was it was it is Joey? It was very close because it was either going to be him or bell it was. Close, but I, when I had a strange feeling, you were going to go but I. I'm GonNa. Leave out here to give me your four year for miss guys here in a minute because four miss. Who just misses it for you because I think there's a couple of guys I'd like to talk about for a second. That sure anything could have been considered. TENURES YEP CB. Talk Jose I. Come on, let's talk. Let's talk. Jose is the guy that made it for, but he is my. There is no. It's close because I understand we WANNA world series with the Homerun. Run from, Joe, Carter, I'm not taking anything away Joe But. Roussel moment yeah, all baseball history late whiten hauling. History Yeah not just talking Blue Jay history. I would almost put the Jose Bautista backflip and some, and probably in the top ten at least top twenty five home runs and Major League baseball history. There is no tensor moment. Than, what was going on in that ballpark prior to that home run, and then those leading up to that just makes you kind of something specials GonNa Happen here what the heck's going to happen and then watching them do that and and watching literally cameras shake. In. Baseball field or the third TV's Oh my God is. It's the stuff of dreams man. The lowest of the lows to the highest highs within the course of an hour, it was the microcosm of being a blue jays fan during that time like every. Four Two Thousand Fifteen So the seven, the top of the seventh inning to me is a perfect representation of two thousand thirteen your. Know, your expectations were so high, and they come crashing down in. That team was just terrible, two thousand thirteen, but then you have the bottom of the seventh inning, and that is two thousand fifteen where everything comes to a fucking go shell, and just explodes like you full of euphoria. Let's go. We got this but I. Don't WanNa highlight just one moment, even though it is the most crucial moment as a Toronto Blue Jays fan when it comes to Jose Bautista. You look at the circumstances of his MLB tenure. Until he reached the Blue Jays, he was a nobody like literally nobody. He went from Pittsburgh to Kansas City to. Baltimore York late everywhere all he was the guy that never wants. He was nobody. Nobody is going to do. Something never peaked out. And then he became Jose Bautista when it comes to his tenure as a blue Jay, I remember when he was rocking number twenty three with the mustache. The blue is now, and that's what he was just starting to become something, and then it changed his number, two nineteen, and then like Caesar to. Fifty yeah it's. You can't mazing a little bit of the great coach Encino. Gaston in the banning I. Don't remember who the Bannon coach was at that time. He really taking off that. Rate after he was required from the pirates. Yes, and I don't know how much of that was because you knew saw those I like ten games. He was doing his normal everyday swimming. And then you could start to see him doing the leg kick. Yes, and it was starting to creep into the stuff a little bit indoors. Just that little bit of hope that looked like okay. You know the power's there. I can see why they're interested. In this guy you know, and then everything goes nuts. Fifty four home runs in a frigging season. Everybody's like who the fuck is this guy? I remember being the reason I. Want my Fantasy Baseball League. That year was because I was like. I had him I think all. Third Basement was at the time right like ten games in the season because I. It's already seen what he did. The prior like twenty to thirty games. Late late August early September the previous year, and I'm like okay. He's real now I'm just gonNA run with this because I. I had that idea tucked into my pocket, and I'm like I'm GonNa Draft Third Base like last I'm address everything else because I knew I might have had an ace in the hole with this random sleeper I'll fuck I paid off found that one big time. You don't like him in Edwin Stories are quite similar in the fact that they weren't. They didn't belong at third base, and they found their groove and other positions at when I mean I. I don't want to take. Advantage of the difficulties applying for a space, but at the same time I don't. Necessarily as difficult as other positions, but like you know having those to switch positions, and then really started to take off at kind of the same time right, and that's peaked us out. Yeah, and then. Again though Josh Donaldson, and that makes us a deadly combination, but for that like. I have to put Jose, Bautista as my four. We can talk about the guys that just crept in. If you WANNA go with yet. But I got one more thing to say on the Jose Bautisita Yeah. Imagine if we actually had a rightfielder, let's say we actually held onto Alex, Rios. Candidate. and. He ended up having the kind of career I. Think Bluejays Spans expected to have forum. You were Toronto. He won the world series against us. So I. If we held on him. I really think that Jose bautisa still would have been still Jose Bautista playing third base every day. You think so I still think it's the. It's the Blatty situation own right that he has such a crazy arm. That it was gonNA, make up for the lack of range just because he would have been able to pivot rifle that thing over at first we saw it plenty times right field. Guys that he route that. Fifteen season alone I feel like he had a ton of assist from right field. Dude he's still grind. He's trying to be pitcher now. He could be I really would not be shocked by that athletic enough. I don't I still think he could have been playing major league. Baseball on some team I would have wished. It was the Blue Jays, but I really just think that it was not the right timing. Now, if something, all of a sudden crazy happened this year I hope they're fucking call. I hate to say this. I hate to even put it out there, but you put them in Tampa. I I was shocked that never materialized right you put him into that in from the six or seven spot at God. He's still GonNa hit you twenty faulk home runs. Now. Attached. Yes, and you know that raise love their cheap pitching. Do they love it? They love the fact that I know, stroman twitter can be. Loaded yeah I'll say is the best way of saying it. But the fact that you know strommen is. Good Major League pitcher. Regard yes. The fact that he's saying that Tony that guy almost Tony Bats. Jose has got harm to be able to handle, so we've seen it from right field. It would not shock me that he catches fire enough to be an actually cricket pinch hitter. Pitcher. GotTa. Be He's got to just work on the control. The control is there and you can zero in on the strike zone. Fuck Man I. If, he's quasi pennies on the dollar. Just try it out. WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO? You gotta go. To fucking Shohei Ohtani. If. He's like Yo. League minimum just the pitch I'll start in triple. What are we we waiting for? Do you have to lose identity wildcard all day everyday knowing how competitive Jose Bautisa. Period so. Fasching Jose Bautisa. Who just misses it for you? Missed it like George Bras misses like you had him in. Jose Bautisa yes. Yes, it was very close, but I had to keep in mind like the fifty four home runs the transitions in his. NBP. P., I notice Blue Day to do it. So. I think it's hilarious. Because in the midst of this, I happened to be talking about somebody. With the drought, the dry for eighty five. The past week and apparently I might be six degrees from Kevin Bacon from somebody on that team. I'll elude you on that later. I just found this out. So in the midst of that. That team was. Like what we were talking about twenty fifteen bluejays kind of more or less a write off. This fucking it and they're not gonNA make the playoffs. They'll be justified hundred team and they won't make it right. That was the whole mentality for eighty five George Bell and Jesse Barfield. Lloyd Mos- Being Company made this franchise, not an afterthought. Everybody up until from seventy seven to eighty five to begin that season, the Blue Jays were nothing. George Bell was the centerpiece for that whole thing and the eventual MVP? Period. So had a great season. Honestly I wish. They signed him up for a little bit longer. But in all reality didn't show up to be that much of a big loss because he had a really rough time after trump gaze. That's what I'm saying like. I didn't even if he wasn't Toronto a little longer, though yeah, it a home comfy thing I think i. don't take anything away from his abilities I. Think he's outstanding and he was like the first like super bright spot. That yeah. Him Barfield and Tony Fernandez right. Thank are the Moesby obviously right that four were the real core of this team to start off and I don't want to teach too much to my next guy so outlet. So. We touch them already, and it's kind of a controversial. Pick my next person then I. Say Person To be on my blue jays Mount Rushmore. Is I. Put Alexandroupolis on there. If you're going to do that. I think you also have to be two hundred. Pat Gillick in that same pink boom boom. Yeah, but I just feel like Alex Anthopoulos was a little bit more crafty correct. He was the wild card that nobody's coming. Yes, known as the silent assassin. Yes yes. I'm still waiting for that podcast. Day acknowledged. I want. My DM'S ARE Open Alex. He literally could film that like was that unsolved mysteries? That's what I'm saying and just be like. Hi, Alex Anthopoulos tonight on. Acknowledges. All I WANNA do is talk to about the trades that never were and I just want to pick his brain. That's all I wanted her. Are. Open Alex just text meantime. I hope we have him on speed dial I know. Speed though heavy book. Where's the teams hookup for that? Call the. Contacts now there's not there's a chat. It's context. It's completely I'm doing you know. So the other one that Mrs a Joss for me days. I Yes yes, so he's my next one bug ahead so I don't want. Bury and then I'm going to say Jimmy. Key would be a very close after the fact because. The only reason I can include Jimmy key in that same conversation Dave Steed. is because Dave. Steve was a full blue. Jay Unfortunately, the Blue Jays management's split with with Jimmy Key. And unfortunately he goes to the evil empire, and then the orioles, and this kind of continues the decimate the American League East, which included us. I. I never had more fun than watching Jimmy Key pitch until right holiday, right? Yeah. There's something crafty about him that I just love watching how he. Dave Steve had the stuff to blow it by Oh yeah Jimmy key. That? He knew he was better than you and was a tricky one way or the other. Yes, yes. Way More craft way more finesse honored. Mark Burleigh. Yes, fans! Even that might be a little too old for the young fans at this point, enough millennials twenty fifth. Straight. So I noticed year like that. Just love baseball. That's true. That's true. I noticed you and I do not have and probably for good reason. We do not have Joe Carter on this list and again. I'm not taking anything away from his talents when you really break it down like. Probably one of the most iconic, if not the most iconic moment in Blue Jays history, depending on where you stand. He won the world series for us. Twice twice almost I mean. He caught the ball the first. Easier than a three run home runs through. My Kim when one the first one tactics, but. You know for me. It's just like he wasn't. Great! He's a great blue Jay but as an overall baseball player, he's not great in my mind. Would you see? Consistency that the blue jays needed, he was just. Twenty thirty hit thirty home runs a year bad about to sixty to eighty and honor RBI US anything. Team needed in the mall or it's. We had white Alamar and everybody. Shoe in between Alamar and old rude in the lineup perfect. Yes, yeah, you knew he was going to drive those guys in, but he was not going to the crazy cliff and level of Josh Donaldson or you know Jose Bautisa like we were talking to originally any an have all the tools of somebody like Roberto, Elmar, he was a run producer. Yeah, he drove in runs in every major league. Baseball team needs him. Yeah I if this was a top ten bluejays baseball players of all time. Dzhokhar is on that list. Down yes, and probably one of the most iconic. That home run, yes. Yes I'd put them in the top ten, so for me, it's like. Depending on who you talk to if you meet someone new, and they're like hey, what you've ever baseball team and you say Blue Jays depending on who you're talking to say, Yo, Joe Carter or probably like Yo Joey Bats. It's one of the other. It's like really analysis based on those two home runs. Yes, the most. And I love the fact that I got the make joke are mediocre car random autograph session in Rochester here and I actually made him laugh stupid jokes. I made me happy. He's very available to his fans. He loves talking baseball with the honestly Joe. If you happen to be listening, we would love to just pick your air. We don't even need to talk about the home run. We would just love this. Pick your brain on the whole baseball situation period. So but I'm going to talk about the home run though. So I brought a nineteen ninety-one. All Star Game Ball to the Autograph Session Nice I didn't bring anything crazy. You know I'm like okay. I'm just GONNA buses. Ball's a little bit here because my dad bought that ball for me because he didn't buy me a ticket to go to the ninety one else game. So he got to go the home run Derby Cal ripken hits like twelve consecutive fucking home runs in the walking around and continues through goes the fan fast and Bungy Red Sox. Fans Yell at my dad from. Somebody yells out. Here's a bus leaving outside. Why aren't you under it? And then in the midst of that. So I handle the ball, and I, go so I got. My Dad was nice enough to let me wake the wake me up for your home, run and ninety three, but it was not nice enough to bring me to this ball game. But it grundy. In here. See the good part, yeah! Exactly exactly. So account it. Oh my God dude? I'm not getting. He was laughing hysterically. Not Surprised I'm shocked that on the ball. That I got him to sign that it's actually you could read it perfectly. It's not only. because. He was I can't believe you how the ball steady enough to Latin that while he was laughing was Larry's. He is very approachable when it comes to as the fans he he'll talk to. He's like probably one of the most humble bluejays of. Famous of all time he goes to every single like retro night. Everything there, and it's not like he's usually sport in the powder blue. Yeah, and it's not like like I got to go to this. You can tell he genuinely loves to be there so. Honestly all these guys that we had been mentioning on this. Mount, Rushmore Holes. Conversation are in that same old and I think the Blue Jays have done an incredible job of not as gathering talent through their. History. Gathering class axe I still think that's continued one hundred ten billion times over with the current lineup. Yeah Yeah. So those are my members. That just made the precipice I. Don't if there's anybody else you wanted to mention. That's right. We're on that and then I think like I said. We could talk for hours on. How good players that we've had in this lineup and I think these are standouts. Yeah. Much as I'd love to talk about Tony. Fernandez and company on this whole show, and whatever I'm sorry, but there's been so many good players in his organization to. Whittle it down to just four names. Yeah, it's it's difficult. I threw an AA in there. You can throw in Cedo. You can throw in giving it depending on when you were here like his first couple of years with the Blue Jays, we WANNA. Do Fun player. fricken Mount Rushmore I think he'd go johnny. Mack Kawasaki. derosa. All these unknowns, guys guys. Just we love watching right. Yeah, yeah, Fraser like these guys are like like. How do you not know like those kind of guys? These random guys that you just throw in. Your Outta love. We love our working class. Heros pass and a very good job with that group and I really think the Blue Jays do a good job usually hitting the nail on the head at every season. You know and I think right now. It's coming to one. Point where we have that talent. To go with those working last guys in almost every position to harass. And there's even more in the fill in those positions are you were just alluding to coming? I! Well we'll see hopefully hopefully there will be some form of baseball this year. Hopefully, there's something for us to enjoy. That is out of my hands on of yours of course, but hopefully we get to see something, and if not at the scratching. Go. If they scrap it altogether hopefully, that doesn't kill the sport that we love. Because look, it would devastate me. Really would because that for me. It's like symbiotic with summer like I need. Though sounds in order, granulated voice summer south to go full circle on our conversation. I might feel very very right holiday like yeah and not know what to do with my life without baseball. Yeah, it's it's. It's one of those things where I'm just like. Man, I need this back in my life, but hopefully they figure it out. Hopefully they do, but until then. I got nothing else. Say I! Don't know if you want a rap anything up. Real quick I'm GONNA. Wrap with our tease. Next Week Blue Jays fans. We are going to do a watch party for the. A. wonderfully awkward nineties video of the back to back world series that we haven't linked to on twitter, so we join us here live while me, Adam Brandon go at this video and talk about it while we go over, you know so. We're going to play button all at the same time, and we're GONNA have a good time watching and goofing around and talking about the Blue Jays glory days and I think it'll be. Be Rather Fun at him. I agree I agree and if you guys have the time, which I'm sure you guys do. It will be a fun little watch along. We'll be a having many drinks and watching some blue jays baseball sort of those times so to beer watching they go there. You go part two so we're going to wrap this up as we always do, but before we do I want to. To give you guys a reminder. If you haven't subscribed to the show already on whatever podcasts platform you're listening to this on, please feel free scribe button. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 695: Cowboys Get Embarrassed On Monday Night Football

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Bottom of the fifth they got runners on first and second, and it looks like the rays are going to be finally making their first pitching change of the night. You remember we add Kirsch over s-class no on as as the starves there it's gave one. I, think they're playing in in Dallas I, want to say and there are some fans in the building, which is cool. So you gotta give props to the MLB see this football podcast but really because of what's going on with covert, it's an all around. We have to talk about sports how they're affected by Cohen and every single spore in one way or another for worse for bed will not for better for worse or for worse her if that was even used, they're probably not knowing me. Sports. was affected. You know whether? 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Through all these heated negotiations with the MLB Players Association and they were too worried about friggin money and they were talking about covert rules, and then once they finally did start the season will cova was blow it up everywhere why? Because they didn't put enough emphasis and attention on Sunday ripped him I. ripped hard. But guess what they adapted and that is the key to everything that is going on I don't care if it's sports or in your wife with your job or your family. Are. Just your your your situation in general adaptability is going to get us through this adaptability and positively keeping our heads positive keeping our minds focus you know staying as happy as we can try to fix our minds on other things that don't take us down throughout the day that that's the key to all this, and hopefully you guys are all doing your best job at that So big big prostate ob big props to the Los Angeles dodgers and the Tampa Bay rays. Big Big. Sports you're so four, four, Tampa Bay in Los Angeles right? You've got the lightning win the Stanley Cup you got the Lakers win the NBA, finals? And Guess What Now, you have the dodgers in the end the raise in the in in the. World Series and you got a team down in Tampa Bay. The Tampa Bay buccaneers who I said at the beginning of the season might be able to make fab super bowl run. They're starting to look good as they beat up on the big bad bed. Rogers isn't that right? Isn't that right? Wasn't that something to see they want from their defense and I said in the beginning of the year if Tampa Bay is going to go far, it's GonNa be from Defense First Day of the best coordinator in the entire NFL in in Todd Bowles, they're defensive coordinator who should definitely get another head coaching job at some point and hope he does because when you look at the jet situation, he actually did a pretty Dang good job when he was there compared to what's happening now. So you gotta give him props there. And A, that was a great game actually not really start out hit. Oh, look like the packers might run away with it and then to pick sixes all for for that Tampa bay defence against air rogers who never really throws interceptions those were as I two of the season of that was something some crazy to see. So Tampa, Bay that was a big win for them. We're going to get into that. What about that? Ugly Old -Ly Performance by the Dallas Cowboys cowboys fans. I know a lot of you listen to this show. And this is GonNa be a tough show for you. But I WANNA say this before I, get into what I'm going to say about the cowboys because. I want you guys to please hang on and listen to this. It's GONNA be rough. Okay. There's no there's no sugar coating. I am going to rip every single threat of your football team today every single thread but I'm asking you I'm asking you as a friend. Okay I, don't know you I know that I will like your friend. Okay. I. See I classify you as a friend all of you that are listening. Please just listen to what I have to say if you are a realistic fan okay and I'm not talking about these delusional these delusional fans that are sitting up there that eighty goal was going to be the best ever. He's GonNa come in and take dad spot just like this. Oh injuries are injuries in just you know if you're delusional old Mike McCarthy. Best coach ever just you can turn it off it because there's no getting into your brain at all because. You already have made up your mind but if you're smart if you're if you're sensible if you understand football and I know all my listeners do all migrate listeners do if you understand football I'm asking you to stay around I'm asking you stick around here what I have to say and yes, it's going to be back and yes I'm GonNa rip these cowboys hard but stick around listen to what I have to say, and then tell me then come at me active underscore. At GMC underscore football tell me what you think about what I have to say because I guarantee you. It's logical. I guarantee you. It's logical. I don't think I'm saying anything that you realistic cowboys fans. Let's say it again realistic cowboys fans are not thinking because you did not watch that game last night and say what? In the mess in my watching okay. You did not watch that game last night and you did say, Oh, well, we don't have debt. Yes. You're right. You don't have that. I don't care. You have a loaded roster. Yeah. Maybe you shouldn't win the game but my goodness, what kind of performance was that if you're a realistic fan, you understand that if you're delusional fan, you're sitting there and saying actually the roster really isn't that good really will. Where were you at the beginning of the year when you're saying you had a super bowl roster. So. I'm not. I. Don't want to hear that the realistic fans give me a second stick around as we get into now remember we've got a lot going on the show today. All right. We're going to break down this cowboys game against the cardinals Dan we're gonNA talk about the breaking news that came out today to Togo is officially named the new starter for the Miami Dolphins they have a by this week and then he will come back facing the Los Angeles Rams for his first ever start in the NFL he got it a couple of snaps last week when they were a dismantling the New York jets. Remember now they are three and three. They are one game back of first place in the AFC, and they are now going to change out for Ryan Fitzpatrick who has done a great job and bring into all right interesting move. We're going to break that down. We're GONNA talk about the chiefs bills. Monday. Night game. Of course on. We're GONNA talk about the the Green Bay. Book and nears Monday night game. We're going to dive into what we're going to see up here Thursday night, which we unfortunately all have to watch on which is that NFC MATCHUP And we'RE GONNA get into all all all the things going on this past weekend and look ahead to week seven. So stick with me here. Let's start as we go into what we saw last night. What did we see last night that that's a serious question. Okay. I mean I know we saw one team in there's carbos that really did not play. Well, let's just admit it they. They played a great defensive game, but they did not play well on offense Carla Marie had nine completions. If you told me before the game that Color Murray was only GonNa have nine completions told you that? Dallas. Would win that game. All right. But it was not that that was not the case Arizona Blue Mouth Thirty eight to ten and I mean blew them out, blew the doors off that place blew up at&T stadium. that. Billion Dollar Stadium. This team this Dallas cowboys team is a disaster. They have a talented team. On Paper Can I? Can I please ladies and gentlemen please I'm asking for your full attention here right. It's a talented team own paper that is the key word it all of this. On, paper when you put these players. With their massive contracts, you put it out on the field. They wire, they not performing be they are not performing what? Dexter Lawrence, where are you? Where are you? After you got your hundred million dollar deal Zeke Elliot what in the world? Are you doing no I'm serious like where we're doing Zeke you just got ninety million dollars Bro what is going on? But I'll tell you what am we're and we're going to get more into the Zeke here admitted. Dare can got paid fifty million dollars this off season almost half of what? Zeke? Zeke is not even in Henry's class at this point anymore. Henry guy his deal it has been better than what he was before that deal Zeke Zeke has drastically dropped off. Look. What did we see last night we saw the Andy Dalton. Lead cowboys. The don't lead cowboys. Offense was home. At least the Dak lead cowboys offense could put up points. They were still not winning games and that's a whole nother conversation but but but doling Dolan did nothing good on Monday night it was terrible and you know cowboys fans they always WanNa be talked about right. They always want their team in the news they always do it's the big thing. Right it's it's the big thing they wanna be talked about they want their team to be in the news in the end they they always are. There are America's team in throwing a lot of air quotes in the air right now up so Cowboys, fans I'm GonNa give you your motor moment. I'm going to talk about you. Let's talk about this T. Let's talk about this team on a country wide podcast hallway tire country. Could hear this. Because I'm telling you this. If were going to do this to the jets every Monday morning after a game where we come on here and we rip them. Well we should sure as hell do it to the cowboys as well. That was disgusting performance on a nationally televised game in your own building with fans in the stands. It was a weird. David out of seek the to the cardinals were out of sync to start the game they really work great either the Zeke fumbles the ball twice and then Thurs two interceptions Dalton was really bad and then look the turtles look at the turnovers through six games so far this season, the dallas cowboys have sick has seventeen turnovers through six games. Do. You Know How many turnovers the Dallas cowboys had all of last year seventeen guys we have eleven weeks left in the season and the cowboys are already at their more that they had last year. This is unacceptable. This is unacceptable. This is supposed to be America's team. I don't WanNa. See this team play again I'm sorry. Take their prime time games away I'm not kidding. Wants to watch this performance nobody does. And there is a lot of blame to be spread all around and we'll get to that trust me. There's. Pieces of the pie to around, we'll get to that. But. The bottom line is if we're GONNA sit up here if we're going to sit up here on Monday and we're gonNA destroy the jets and we're gonNA destroy out of gays than we need to do the same thing to the Dallas Cowboys and Mike McCarthy. Shoot at least the jets didn't lose by this much to the cardinals last week. The jets played the CORDOLA's last week. Week five, they played the cardinals. They lost thirty to ten. Thirty and ten I mean that's pretty bad right it was in New York. The COWBOYS LOST THIRTY EIGHT TO TEN The cowboys lost worse than the jets. So. At least the jets showed some fight. Mike. Did nothing absolutely nothing to help his team out yesterday or shoot. What has he done all year to help his team how? What is he doing all year to help his team out other than sit behind Dax five hundred yard games. Last. Night it was twenty eight to three late in the game twenty eight to three and Mike McCarthy calls. Kicker Greg Sir Line to kick a field goal when you're down twenty five. What are you doing? That is a three possession game when you're down twenty eight to three and it's a three possession game. If you make that fuel, there is no difference in data score. Why are you doing that? Poor. Coaching it's poor execution by the players. And I don't WanNa see this team play again until they showed some fight in as cowboys fans. Why would you wanna see it either. Why why does this team deserve Primetime Games? Seriously, the jets got one primetime day. How are the cowboys? Any different right now? Mike McCarthy you're down twenty, two three and you try to kick a field goal to make you what twenty eight to six. What are you doing this? This goes all the way back to last this off season. The cowboys interviewed one head coach this offseason one. And it was Mike McCarthy. At some point it's not about the defensive coordinator. It's not about the defense. It's not about the injuries. It's not about any anything else that we're talking about. You were supposed to have this team ready to go and you didn't Mike McCarthy. You did you failed your fan? Base. And you embarrassed every and the players did as well. And Look I know this sounds harsh. I. Told You guys. It's going to sound harsh but I wouldn't be doing my job properly if I didn't come on here and speak the Truth Realistic Cowboys Fans Realistic Football fans, they all saw the same thing last night and shoot maybe Mike McCarthy is finding out that it's actually really really hard to coach in the NFL will you don't have a first ballot hall of Famer as Your quarterback? And you know what? I don't even blame any dawn. Should he have been better? Yes. Of course he should. But I don't blame man. You know who I do believe. Stick around because I'm GonNa, tell you exactly who deserves the blame for what happened last night. And for what's going to happen the rest of this season if this keeps off, do not go anywhere we'll be right back after this with that answer. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out GSM see fantasy football podcast get to east best advice on who to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper pick style red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM see podcast dot com slash fantasy dash football dash on cast. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty FYI are even I DP When you need fantasy hope there's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcast dot com for more INFO. This is the in see football podcast. I'm your host. Keivonnis. Thank you everyone for joining us on this lovely day Whatever Day it is that you guys are listening. However you're listening and wherever you're listening. We super appreciate GMC family over here. We love you guys for listening you really been. Just. Been Great. Fans all throughout the the season all throughout the off season and we're just gonNA keep trying to do our best to put on some good content for you. In and have a great season I mean think about this we're seven were six using were six weeks in to the NFL season time flies how you doing your fantasy team This is win week six I always say this week six is when you start to either sell the fuller. Or? Bringing some plans and honestly this is for real football in fantasy football like. Are you really struggling if you're probably. If you have a two wins on your belt, depending on how good your league is you're probably out now I've in the league right now where two ways you know you're still in it because everyone is either at four two or three, three or two and four. So that's a really competitive league right now but you know if you've got a bunch of people in your league at five at one or Ford to your at two and four, maybe you should look to try and get some value you know heading into next year if you're in a dynasty lead, you know or if you're in a keep relieved or something like that. But if it's just a season long league, they don't give up once season you win go out and try and make a good trade, and if you're winning definitely hold onto your team but try to add some players try to add some big players. You know we're still dealing with Cova. You never know what's going to happen there but it's it's definitely been awesome. I. Know You have guys like. Patrick beholds Travis Kelsey your do Wealth Derrick Henry you're doing really well of yet Derek Henry I know if you had Dak. Prescott. Before he did he got her he was really putting up a lot of yards and a lot of points for you the. So it's interesting. You know last year was like at this time if you had Lamar Jackson did you were probably in first place or getting close to taking over first place in your league right all crazy thing is Lavar wasn't even drafted a lot of a lot of leagues last year he was picked up. So but this year, there's really not that one player that is carrying team. You know there's a lot of players that are doing great things like Derrick. Henry. Is just dominating. Steve's really picked up where he left off, but there's not really like that one Lamar Jackson Lavar taken a big step back still doing great. The Ravens are at five one. He's not putting up what we saw that of the year and I said that going into the season you know I said it's very, very hard for someone to repeat that MVP type performance. The host had a great year after his MVP, but it was nowhere near that type great year Lamar is going to have a great year this year, but it was nowhere near. That type of your those are special. You know once in a while years that we get to see here and there are few Russell Wilson how could I forget about him? He was on a bye last week. That's why I'm sure you're doing pretty well, Russell Wilson has been absolutely amazing. He is my MVP pick right now as we are six weeks into the season. So there's just a lot of great stuff going on in this in the NFL right now we've got some great storylines. We have three teams left that are undefeated. Teams left undefeated of two of those teams are facing off this week, which is also Pittsburgh steelers five no Tennessee, titans five or no, and the Seattle seahawks five. No. Each team has really really positive of strong perks about them in each team has a couple of weaknesses. Two of you look at the Pittsburgh steelers. They. They have a fantastic defense I think it might be the best or the second best defense in the entire NFL and their offense hitting on all cylinders. Well, there will we use their running game is not the Best James Garner has been pretty good but he has been anything like of a fantastic and then of course, the the biggest thing is how how does Big Ben hold up? He's been great. He was my pick for Comeback Player of the year and he's definitely proving that right now he is definitely in the driver's seat for that award remember I picked the steelers to compete with the Ravens to win this division I said the Raven's would barely win out i. mean we're barely. You know. Win. That division by game or two on the steelers could wait eleven maybe even twelve games this year at right now they're headed to that the titans I mean, what can you say more about Ryan? Tannehill he has played his way into the MVP compensate conversation. It's going to be a great match up this week with them in the steelers i. wish the NFL would flex that game into a primetime game because that would be so cool to watch. But those two teams are just you know they're gonNA be there on fire right now and Ryan Tannehill is just every second proving the doubters proving to the Adam gays lovers, they're not very many left I'm sure that he is He is a really good football team player. He was just used wrong. In Tennessee and I think that a Mike Vrabel is on the shortlist right now off coach of the year hidden definitely, Mike Tomlin. Is Up there. So there there's no doubt about that and it would Seattle seahawks. You know what? A T takes a bite we can't forget about them for a second, but the thing with the seahawks is this. They by far have and I know it's kind of crazy to say by four but it's me. They have the best quarterback out of those three teams out of those three teams right? Big Been Very Good Ryan Tannehill. Very good. But Russell. Wilson is great. The problem is though I would say if you look at those three teams, which team has the biggest glaring hole. It's gotTa be Seahawks Defense Right? I mean, the titans their defense has been shaky. points. But their defense has been nothing like. What the seahawks the seahawks defense kissed off. Anyone's it's the worst pass defense in the league. Ob and then you have the Stewart who I think is. Teams, the most well rounded team because they do have the best defense and then they have a great offense as well. So but because of the greatness of Russell Wilson, he kind of makes up for that glaring hole that they have on defense. Now, I would say about the seahawks moved back to the cowboys here. Watch for don't John Snyder and Pete Carroll to make a big move at the trade deadline K. weather that's bringing another weapon on offense which I don't think that's going to happen or making a big trade for a pass rusher on defense. Now, there's not many pass rushers out there. I could see them trying to go for like attack McKinley from Atlanta who's on a fifth year right now unfortunately, he's been injured. So I think if you healthy, that's more likely since he's been injured, I don't know but watch for them to try go at a pass rusher whether that's someone franchise tag whether that's someone on a one year deal where that's someone that's on towards the into their deal. Their deal. So they can just get them off currently so that they can just get them for a one year rental and try and make a super bowl run. All right. So Watch out. John. Snyder has known to do that in the past when they had the legion of boom and they were making those super bowl runs watch out for that to happen now. Let's get back into where we left off segment number one. Again, this is the GMC football podcast. I'm your host. Keivonnis Zombie. Hope everyone had a great great day. And we ended segment talking about just just the disgusting play of the cowboys Monday night you know I it was It was embarrassing. I don't think there's any other way to put it. It. Was Hor- to watch. I don't think many people would watch this team play again, they have a lot more prime time games to go and I I. Did it Dax out there? Offensive Line is banged up but guess what sort the eagles? And in the eagles have one player to players from their starting team coming into the season that played on Sunday. It was their their sitter, Jason Kelsey and their quarterback, Carson Wentz, and they still put up a fight against the best teams in the League in the Baltimore rates. I don't care that the braves were up all game and they went into prevent defense, and then the the eagles came back I don't care. That means they quit. That means they have a good coach that help schemes things up to get around that feed defense and actually gets imports all the board. That team showed fight that at least made it an interesting game where we were all turning into this game, we were all done watching halftime. Unless you savannah see players on their or your die. Hard Kordofan. You why are you still watching that game? You're not. You're not or I guess if you're a cowboys fan and you're just sitting there watching it, you know in your sorrows. So. What's your? What we saw on Monday night is just it it's unacceptable. It's unacceptable from a coaching standpoint and it's unacceptable for a player standpoint. So then the question goes around all day today, this is Tuesday. So it's right after the game and it it goes around all day saying this who is most to blame well, everyone deserves a piece of the blame if you WANNA look at it as a whole you know. Jerry. Jones this roster people thought it was much better roster it's not and I don't want to hear. We'll dock was in there will be different really because you guys won one game with Jack in there. One game and if it wasn't for the Atlanta Falcons. Just having a lapse of how to go onside kick you would have not wanted to games. Okay. So and I'm not saying that because Dacca I'm just saying because we thought that this roster was better than it was. included. That that's a person to blame Mike McCarthy deserves half of the pizza in my opinion because he deserves a lot of bleed, he is not helping this team. Now at all, he's not putting this offense an easier position he did not help Andy. Dalton at all last night. The defense of course is someone blame we'll get into that but in a lot of people want to say, well, let's blame any daughter. And I don't blame any dawn. Should he have been better last night? Yeah. Of course, he should have. But guys. We know where they don't is we have seen him for eight years in Cincinnati. I don't know why people coming into this game that he was going to be fine. No I don't play any Dolly. I knew what we were getting it Andy Dalton and you know what? I don't blame the defense either. And and and so many people stop Dole, turn it off Toltar- sobe people right now are in their cars and they're screaming at their radios or they're screaming at their folds in their say what the heck is this cave on guy saying, how can you not believe that defense? Did you watch the game? This guy is in idiot. Well, just hold on real quick hold up. What have we seen the first five weeks of the season Seriously, what have we seen the first five weeks of the season from this cowboys t? The cowboys defense is terrible. We all know that you know that. I know that there is nothing new. They are literally on pace to being one of the worst defenses in the history of the NFL we all this already. So. I. Don't blame the defense. What's that famous quote? Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame be when someone tells you who they are believable Dang it and the cowboys defense. All season has said, hey, we're over here and we're terrible. Believe them. Because I do so I don't blame them because we knew they suck. I expected them to be awful. They've showed us through. All season. So I believe that if you did leave there will that's on, you take a step back and maybe look at it a little bit more of an objective way. So if I do the do cowboys defense was dead and you knew the cowboys defense was dead then Mike McCarthy has to know the defenses bad right. He had to have right. So you just and this is what I actually do. Get Mike McCarthy's credit because he did a Joss. How do you adjust that's question right? You Feed Zeke the ball you feed all. You. Give you. Ninety million dollar rolling back the football yes. What Mike McCarthy actually did do that. Zeke my Guy Mr. Kabo. River went all summer. You're pouting in children in. Kabul. 'til you got paid member that. Guy Your money. That's for sure. You're starting. qb Is gone. This is your team now when you've got that much money. Will that much more is required? When you get paid the big box more part if you're at your job and you get a promotion that doesn't mean, you still keep doing the same job, no more gets put on your plate because the company is trusting you with pain you more that means more is required. Right would more when you are earned something which Zeke was that big contract. You got your contract will now Moore's required from you? So, Zeke more is required from you. You you you even used some of that money that you got to get a tattoo on your stomach which by the way. What happened to Zeke six pack on no that that six pack that Zeke you used to show off all always rocking those crop tops in Ohio state in your first couple years with the cowboys navy it's hiding the winners coming or something but. You wouldn't go feed me on your stomach and there's no six pack their shown that. So what is your coach do? He feeds you the ball he gives you the ball. What did we say all last week going into this game we said if the cowboys one chance to win, you have to run the football. You can't expect to throw the ball four, hundred, fifty yards with Andy Dole. No disrespect, any doll and we already know who he is. He's a good quarterback when he has a lot of town around. Well guess what you run the ball guess what they did. The first seven plays into gate either went to see or were targeted to beat the first seven plays wit to Zeke. Eleven of the first fourteen plays for the cowboys win to Zeke Elliot. And Jess what Oh Komo. Do I really need answer this question Two of those fourteen were fumbles by Z. The only reason they finally stopped getting Zeke, the football is because he got bitched. So I'm telling you right now for this game in this game slow solely. By, blame goes to Zeke. You have to put this on Z.. You have to put this on your ninety million dollar running back. Zeke wasn't just the worst player on his team last night on Monday night he was the worst player on the field. And that's not Zeke Zeke is a great player. We have seen what C- CAN DO. We have seen it. He's a one. He's the best running back in the league when he was playing at his best, that's why we got that contract. And Look. I hate to bring this up. But it's too early to tell this. But. Every single person listening to this show. Has watched professional sports enough to know what? To know that when some people get paid, when some of these athletes get paid, they get better they work harder they stay motivated. They WANNA get paid again. And then on the flip side when other players get paid, they stopped working heart they get satisfied they gave could. They lose their six pack. Zeke it's too early to tell. But. You're not trending right way my friend. You're not training the right way. Listen to this guys. Seek has fumbled four times in six games so far four times in six games. All, four of those fumbles led to the opposing team scoring a touchdown, all four of them. You're giving the other team points. Is that is that enough? No, you won't more okay here in Zeke's last fourteen games only to have turned into one hundred yards rushing only two. And, this guy is a top three running back paid in the NFL. Look at the regression that is happening with Zeke. It's not just last night. It's not just week five it's not just week for. This has been. A year and a half now of regression ever since he got paid Zeke. Is Starting to fall even with a deck was out there the same type of lack of production was happy. Zeke is the problem and he needs to fix it. It's that simple. It's horse I get it. But I've seen how great this guy can be. I. Saw him when he was at Ohio state where he put the team on his back to beat Alabama in the First Ever College Football playoff and did to beat Marcus Mariota in the in the finals in win the first ever college football players play off. That was Zeke. Yet they had. You know so they had. Cordell Jones's their qb who got hot and all that. But no, let's let's let's get it. Right. That was Zeke. Elliot I saw him come into the league run for the most yards ever the first two years a as as a running back. Zeke. Now I saw him go to Kabo. Sit there pal. While his TV Dak, Prescott was also looking for a contract but what he do, he stayed at camp. He stayed with his team he stood up an answer questions. Now not Z. Zeke without to Kabo he had some fun. He. He wrote Cryptic tweets and took pictures. And Good Old Jerry Jones? Gave in. And gave that being ninety million dollars, and since did we have seen him lose his six pack we have seen him Lutron his production dropped drastically. We've seen him fumbled the ball over and over two one, hundred yard games. If fourteen games a a running back, that is making sixteen million dollars. A year should go one game without having a hundred yards rushing. This guy has to it fourteen games. It is last fourteen games. Zeke step it up. You have to step it up if this cowboys team wants to do anything this year. But now the question becomes. SHOULD THEY WANNA do anything this year. seriously. Why Win The division. That's a realistic question. What's the. Point. Seriously I all all my cowboys phase out there. If you're you're you're realistic cowboys fan if you're not a delusional cowboys fan. You Really WanNa win this division. We're GonNa talk about what I think. You should want. As cowboys fan right after the break this is the GMC football podcast. I'm your host on Zombie. Don't go anywhere. We come back to the cowboys really WANNA. Win this ugly division at six wins. And to. via lower. The Hawaiian man, the man of Hawaiian. Hot to up. is coming out to start his first ever NFL game after the bye this week. Why can't wait to see what happens but? 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Mountain dew here they're not the best for you but I can't help myself love dial do it's a problem? It's probably I used to start out where I just had one. Night count every so often. Got to the point now where Feel like an all those streaky. A Diet Mountain dew a day and I. Kind of feel embarrassed. Say that a little bit like I cassettes bad. You know I'm not someone I was never simply that was big with Soda. Aw-. Wasn't my thing I would like I would get cravey's for like a Pepsi senior you know Dr Pepper here and there but I started really really get into diabetes do mandates. It's got me hooked it's a problem. It's it's not good for you I know that but it's very, very tasty. So the I love me some diamond do now you guys know that? Has. To be the can the has the care? So this is actually really fascinating debate that that me and my sister have all the time. It's a sister, Sarah away she comes on the show sometimes are is Steve Sports reporter Sara. She we talk about this all the time and it's like for me. It has to be a can you know I think that soda in general tastes much better in a camp on and I've always felt that way I do not. It's not that I don't like soda out of a bottle, but I just think it tastes a billion times better out of a can now I do like found in soda like. If you go to a restaurant, a burger joint yourself big and you get the nice crushed ice with it who that's really good too. But I'm still if you're giving me any choice taking soda out of a can and I'm drinking out of the CANTU, which I think is actually worse because of the aluminum and that that's what I've heard at least but. It'd be make right. So I, I like to drink it out I can't not like poor data in a glass of ice or anything like that sort of out of a can to be is always the way to go and then number two would be found in soda and then number three would be bottled soda I just don't like bottle soda I'm not a big Fan of bottle soda I think it I think somehow tastes goes away it's it's you know a little more Physi- to me I guess four carbonated but I'm much more of a canned diet now new that's my go-to drink coffee in the morning. Every single morning one cup of coffee too. If I'm really really tired but I don't have a back to back you know like to get one cup of coffee start by day they'd come back in an hour and get the second one. If I'm really tired and then in the afternoon after lunchtime as a little pick me up or I'll do diet mountain dew or I'll do some tea hot tea guys. Well, big big big hot tea guide. What's Y'alls favorite soda you know like Soda Shoutout at Cave on underscores sports at cave on underscores sports used to be a big doctor pepper. Guy. But that's Kinda changed over time speaking of Dr, pepper real quick and we'll get back on track. Those fans. Ville commercials by Dr Pepper or pure genius I mean it said they're they're brilliant. I logged those commercials I truly enjoy with those come on and I don't know if you guys have seen the new one but it's so funny because it's so realistic to how crazy sports fans like myself take it this new one there's this guy there in the fans bill that's what they call it. Right? They're all fans you know they they pay their. Faces of pepper colors and all that, and they're watching a game and the guy the kicker is going to kick to win the game and everyone around is like Oh. This is a this is this is so nerve wracking all goes into this one guy sitting on the couch who is not a fan of that team and he goes man this is easy. Money Guy Look this guy doesn't miss something along those lines up forgotten exactly what it said. This. Is Easy money. This guy doesn't miss the kicker missed it, and of course, everyone was like you you said that'll purpose you want an intimate boutique stuff and anybody that is a die hard fan of a team can fully relate to that. I crazy with that stuff I'm not even kidding I'll, be watching the falcons game. and. This actually happened two weeks ago against Carolina we started out the game terrible terrible and we're driving down somehow we come out in the second half we cut the score down to seven and that Ryan drives all drives all the way down to the five yard line watching the game with my girlfriend emily downstairs at the house my brother-in-law. Matt is upstairs. Watching his giants game that that's how we doing on Sunday. My House is very, very loud on Sunday. He got screaming upstairs for his giants had for his fantasy players. I'm screaming downstairs for my Falcons ob usually it's not good screaming this year and usually for him to it's not good screaming even though we both both are teased finally got a win this week. But anyways I'm downstairs in were down seven Matt Ryan drives all the way down the five yard line. I'm like, let's go. We could tie escape off I. Don't know how we played terrible will back down. For. That play. WII, after we get into the five yard line and Ryan throws one of the worst interceptions I ever see and I just go Berserk Matt saying it's your Fault UK down here. Why would you come down here like such an idiot obviously, he has nothing to do with. Him coming down here does nothing but in the moment. That's how a delusional. Obsessed crazy maniac fan like myself. Thanks and I know all of you out there smile and right now you have done it yourself don't try and hide dope shine lie you know that you have done that and. I, don't blame you. It happens it's sports and that is why we love sports because of those emotions, it takes the craziest out of us. I mean it brings the craziest craziest part of us out off brings the tears. Happy tears the sad tears all the laughs the ager nothing better than sports seriously nothing is better than sports I. Love It. I'm so happy we have a back off and I'm so happy that I'm on here talking with you guys about football week sakes heading into week seven and we really. Don't. Talk a lot today about the cowboys right and we have a lot to get into. We will get into more of that here just a minute. But I do just want to finish this cowboys talk off with one more comment and they will go into talking about two of getting start. We're going to look at all the Games, not all the Games but the games that happened on Sunday break down some of the things that happened got some bullet points here my notepad I like to take throughout the week. And we'll go from there. Also will work thing to not tomorrow My Saturday show my Saturday show I am doing a full segment on y'all's tweets. I've gotten a lot of teams in a lot of tweets from you guys about your questions, what you WanNa talk about some. Coming at me Colombian idiot which I absolutely love you. You're calling me out my predictions and I'm going to take a full segment or however many there are have a segment full segment to run through all of those and respond to all of those. So stay tuned for that on Saturday and if you have not seen anything or if you have you want to be something else. It at cave on underscore sports at cave on underscore sports. If you've sit something already, senate it again, I will read both of them out I. Promise. I'll read all three out. If you say three things, four days I read everything we'll take as much time as we as we can and we'll take all the time. We'll take all the time to answer everything you guys have said I've been promising that for a while. So Saturday showed that will come out now let's move to this. We just just one last point here on the cowboys. Just, embarrassing overall play. They will move onto something else because I know all you don cowboy fans out there probably even cowboy fans out there get sick of this but this needed to be said I mean, I it just enough was enough sit appear talk crap about the jets talk crap about without the giants all that stuff and the cowboys deserve this type of talk as well. Okay. I'll praise them when they do good. I. Have Nothing against the Cowboys Day they've never you know. Anything to me like they've never you know we they're not a rival to my falcons or anything like that. So I have no ill will towards the cowboys or anything this is pure. Just me being an objective objective skews me fan and talking about let's be real not just what I saw. But what every one saw on Monday night and after watching that game. After, watching every game they have played and now knowing that Dak is out injured. If DAK wasn't injured, I would not be bringing this up. Even. Though if they did keep winning games would end up bringing it up but it's much different because. is in there and because if Dak was in there, he always gives you a shot because he's a good player right on. I have by thoughts about the overall franchise quarterback in and I think he definitely is a franchise quarterback in I think the cowboys. Should not let him walk as long as he's able to play to his potential after a he heals from this injury. I just don't know if he is a franchise quarterback that will be able to win the Super Bowl. Because of some of the stuff that I've seen with arguably over the years, the best offensive line in some of the best offensive players out there. But that's a whole different subject for different day. Dak. Prescott right now is going through a lot and my prayers are within I'm so glad the surgery went well, I heard that everything was good no infections infections or anything like that and and I want him to come back better than ever and I pray that he does. But for these cowboys, the Andy. Lead Cowboys, the light McCarthy coach cowboys the Zeke Elliott. Led Cowboys. And this is serious. I'm being dead serious here it please cowboys fans answer this question for me because I cannot wrap my head around it. Why would you guys as cowboys fans now? Obviously, the players are going to the players are not quitters. Okay. Even though the last night of Monday night they looked like they really did give up and I never want to say that about an athlete and I'm not saying that they quit or anything like that. And a lot of it is the gay plan and the way that McCarthy does not know how to lead this team in a lot of it is they lost their leader back but they did not look like they wanNA play football but. These are professional players that are played for their livelihoods for their family to put food on the table. So they're not going to give up but four fan and even for the whole entire organization Jerry Jones if you're out there listening and I, know you are Jerry. I know you sneak peek on our show I've seen it I. Know You are. Why would you want to win this division at what six ways? Maybe maybe and this would be a miracle seven wins. I don't see any possible way. You guys get seven win but I need if if all the stars aligned and you just the football gods want to say, you know what we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA make a doll look like Aaron Rodgers the rest of the season and we're going to give you guys seven if if that will happen. Why would you want to? Make the playoffs and actually win the division because first of all, that's not GonNa Happen Okay, this division is going to be one with six games maybe even five games at such a disgusting deficient. Okay. This this year, the NFC is probably the worst division I've seen in my lifetime. What is the point because let's be real. When you make the playoffs you're not gonNA, win a playoff game. There's no chance to win a playoff game, the NFC you so stacked AFC if you're se stack so you're not waiting playoff games. So what is happening is you win the division, which means you have a draft, pick all the way down in the twenties. What is the point of that when you guys clearly have so many holes on your roster if I'm a legit realistic cowboy's Fan. And again, because Dak is out now Dak. Was it because he is a good quarterback they did. It's like, yeah, you do want to win the division because maybe he can catch fire with all these offense of weapons maybe they can catch fire you can win a couple of playoff games now with that defense and with Mike McCarthy as the head coach I don't think that would have happened that would happen if that goes out here but deck's out there. So we know for fact, you are not waiting playoff game. With this team out here right with anti-god Qb you're just not doing. So what's the point of waiting this division? You clearly need help on the defensive line. You clearly need help in the secondary you clearly need help at the linebacker position because the person that you just paid a boatload of money a boatload of money. It. Jalen Smith who I'm so glad got his money and actually deserve his money because he had a terrible injury. He fought his way back and he was actually played like one of the best linebackers in the League is first couple years and then he got his money and he looks like he forgot how to play linebacker. He forgot it looks like you forgot how to play football I'm not kidding. So the deepen I mean dexter of demarcus Lawrence got one, hundred, billion dollars. He doesn't know how he has one sack of the season one, hundred, million, dollar man has one sack of the season you have no one at defensive tackle. Why on Earth would you want to make the playoffs in have to get a first round pick in the twenties? You need this much help to this roster. Guys. Wake up delusional cowboys fans. This is not as good roster. It's not so. Realistically. Would it be better? To. Go with five games would for deems. Would three games and not make the playoffs. So you can get possibly top kid maybe even a top five pick and really add a shea a game changer to that defense. So then you add a really good college player coming out of college top five, top ten pick. You, have that coming back you have CD lamb in his second year. You know you have hopefully Zeke that will get in shape over the off season get his act together. Maybe, because Mike McCarthy goes into his second year as head coach, he'll get better maybe demarcus lawrence will show up but at least you start to have a better roster. You know Trayvon digs the The the quarterback you guys draft out of Alabama he'll be in his second year. I think he has a lot of potential right now he's getting deep, but he's a rookie is a lot of potential moving forward I liked him in Alabama. So to me, it makes all the suits in the world to not with this division at five or six games. It's pointless. It is absolutely pointless and I would go far enough to say that it will set you back and I never say that I want every team. To, fight for a chance to make the playoffs if they can't. and. Every player will trust me these players will fight for it. They're not quitters. But. If you're the organization and if you are a cowboys fan why in the world would you want that why? You don't you don't be realistic be objective for a second please I know it's Har- trust me it's hard for me when I talk about by Alcan's. But in the long run. It will do wonders for your team. Wonders. If you're able to get a top five top ten pick to help this team out going into next year when you get your quarterback Dak Prescott back in healthy against some of these young players. Under the system a little bit longer. Understanding how to acclimate to the NFL type of game. That makes the most sense to me, and that's what I would want. If I was a cowboys fan now I want to change gears to this. All right. We're not talking about the cowboys here. All I WANNA. Get into. We're going to dive into the Monday. The other Monday night game, which by the way, these doubleheader Monday night games are of mazing NFL, please I know this is because of Covid, but could we please into having this moving forward? Why not? To NFL Monday. Night Games is just it's also it's what everyone wants. The NFL should really be looking at that and say we might be on something here. Let let's do that before I would love that but I wanna get. We'll get into that chief sub bills gave here minute. But I want to talk about something that's not being talked about after this week as much as I thought, it would. That's the overtime rules of the NFL. The overtime NFL rules are completely flawed. They did flawed for a long time. And I just wish they would change it. They've caused team superbowls bowls. They have caused teams off the chance to go to the Super Bowl and they've caused teams winds because of the way this overtime we'll was set up. The that I'm referring to is the Houston Texans against the Tennessee. Titans. The Houston Texans are start off the season Owen five or excuse me Oh and four they fired Bill Ryan and they won last week to go to one in four. If they beat the titans this week they would have went to two and four. Had A wit against the titans had witnessed. The Jaguars that's two wins the AFC south. And they would have been would actually seriously had a legit shot making a run seriously but because they lost that game the end the titans are five. Now the they're out of the division race already unless something. Catastrophic happens to the time. And, they just completely fall and we don't see that happening there too well coached team so. If you guys saw this game, it was tied up going into overtime. Shawn Watson is that the coin toss? Derrick Henry. Is Isn't image I'm telling you guys go look this up. The Ref flips up the coin. Catches it at the titans win the toss. Does Shawn Watson immediately. Falls back doesn't add like not falls. Falls. Back throws his hands up like shrugs head like are you kidding me like immediately saying we lost the game because. He knows that a very good titans offense that is on fire with Derrick Henry. Just. Got The ball first. Which means they can go down score touchdown in the Texans will never see the ballgame you get a chance to win to try tied up or trying with the game themselves. So for those that are not following along the overtime rules of the NFL are. If you if the team that gets the ball first, whoever scores a touchdown first wins the game. Okay now. Say the Titans won the toss which they did and they down in scored a field goal. Did. The Texans will get a chance to get the ball back. and Go tied up. And get whatever on saying oh well, they should just be able to stop it will sometimes it just doesn't work that way. Okay. Sometimes when you're in overtime, it's really hard to stop NFL players. So why are we taking away the chance? This was a beautiful gate it was awesome to Shawn Watson and Ryan Tannehill and dairy kid we were just going back and forth scoring all gate. It was beautiful to Shawn. Watson is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and because he simply lost a a coin toss, he didn't get the chance. To tie it up for his team or win the game for his team because his defense was able to stop them from scoring a touchdown. Are you kidding me? Why does the game has to in? If the team scores a touchdown right off the bat why can the other team not a chance to go down? And even it up themselves. It makes no sense to me. That's how the college does it that way where each each team gets possession of the ball. No matter what happens and it's bullet. You remember a couple years ago we had the Kansas City chiefs, I of the New England Patriots in the AFC, title? Game. Patrick Mahomes Tom Brady both players were playing exceptional. We want to see him keep going. And because Tom Brady won the coin toss. He got to March down and score Patrick behold never got see the field again. So because he simply didn't win a coin toss, he never got the chance to win the game or tie the game for his team. It's wrong. I hate. The overtime rules that the NFL has and I really wish Roger Goodell come on. Come on man change it, change it. You don't have to change the ten minute period keep it if it's tied at the end of the timid, a period in the game is tied. Obviously, postseason would keep going but ray or season, but there's no reason for votives to not be able to get a chance to have the football. It's the most fair way to go about. This is the GMC football podcast I'm your host cave on Zombie. We're GONNA take a quick break. When we come back, we will inter quarter number four segment number four the last segment of the show where we will talk to. And then we will make a run through the biggest games of this past weekend and break it all down. Right back on, GMC. Football. podcast right. After. 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From that Smart Smart football person that you all are and no you cowboys fans are smart. I know the woods that listen to this show you're smart. You're not delusional. All right. You're not delusional. You're on board with what I'm saying what did I say wrong? Z., he's gotta be better to all eighty one that's watching that game in this his last season and a half knows that he's got to be better. What else? Mike McCarthy he's been terrible. He's not doing anything great as good as a coach Costa for it's young. It's early I'm not saying that it was the wrong higher. I. Mean. I said that from the beginning that I wouldn't have hired him but we all know why he was higher I mean we got into this before we to get into it now but. It is what it is. You Know Jerry Jones likes to hire guys that he could control. Jason? Garrett. Mike McCarthy. He's not GonNa hire someone that's GonNa. Put His foot down and say, Jerry, sit up at your press box in Levy control by T. The last time he hired someone like that they would suit three. Super. Bowls. But that head coach Jimmy Johnson. Is it the Regan Hook. Right why? Because you've got too much credit for those super bowls for Jerry's likely. Come on Jerry you always talk about you want to win so bad clearly you don't. All right. So what am I saying wrong cowboys, fans you were barest. You. Lost Worse. The jets loss worst to the cards. To the cardinals, the jets did. You had failed your state of the jets. Did it. So. If you disagree with me cowboys fans that's fine. But I WANNA know why I wanted to why don't just tell me I. Don't know what I'm talking about I. Don't know all idiot I shouldn't be having a show all that stuff blah blah blah. Don't tell me that all right I wanNA know why and if you give me a good accent explanation of why I'm rolled with any of the stuff that I said, we'll I'll read it on the air on Saturday when I do all when I do all the tweets that I got. To. Read them out loud. I all over the years. All right. If you don't think Mike McCarthy deserves bleed blame tell me why he doesn't deserve blame if you for some odd reason. Don't think Zeke deserves believe tell me why. Because I'm having a very hard time understanding how do not This is the GMC football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. At. GMC Underscore Ball is the company twitter handle at GSA. CAILLEBOTTE underscore sports is your boy cave on twitter handle hit us up as always I am recording this show. Tonight on Tuesday. So it looks like the world. Series Game One has gone final the dodgers. At. Eight to three, kershaw had a very dominant performance rookie vets had a really really. Nice performances his Gabe. One. Showed his power showing his speed it all around. Just just great great performance by the dodgers offense. Kershaw really stood up a show what he could do in the playoffs when he's on audio, he gets a lot of crap for some bad playoff performances rightfully. So but he had a good one tonight. I think villager also wit yard he he's been hot ever since. Really that it L. C. S. where he he really took put the team on his back to win that against the braves. My braves landlady later braves lost a three one lead that was disappointing. So so gay would goes to the dodgers. Now. What what we're talking about here, and I want to get into the to hear a bit but I just really quickly want to go back to that. HOUSTON. Texas Tennessee Titans game because I told you guys how think overtimes ridiculous. It is I. Think they should go to college over time other besides putting it you know in college overtime. Each per each team gets the ball on the twenty or thirty I think it's the twenty on the opposing team's twenty. So Alabama, Georgia it goes to overtime. Alabama starts off Georgia's twenty and they have a chance to score right and they no matter what they score a touchdown. If they score fuel goal if they don't score it, all Georgia gets the ball back and they get a chance at Barrow at the Kyle Obama's Twee to either with the game if Alabama didn't score or with gave if Alabama we scored a field goal, figgy touchdown, they win or tied up, you know they get a chance. That doesn't happen in the NFL again I don't want them to start with the ball of the twenty i. do some people what that if that happened five but I, just want. To get a chance to score I wanted to be a normal gave you kick the ball off the other team has to drive all the way down the field and score if they do great job to the when now the other team gets the chance to I would love to see that happen. It was unfortunate it really you know it was like made took something out of me when I saw the Shawn Watson? Just immediately Kinda just like fall down all those after saw that Derrick Henry of the titans won the toss because he knew. Wow I don't even get a chance to win it. We're always talking about how football is Deebo Steve Sport. There is out there it is basketball you guy like Lebron on your TV you'll get a guy like J., on your team you're GonNa do some special things aright. Hockey is very team as well, but you get a good goalie who you can make a big run football. Your offense could be amazing if your defense sucks doesn't matter your David's could be amazing if you're off it sucks it really doesn't matter. So why are you? Just GonNa, put one of those Position Groups you know of those sides of the ball with where they have to stopping, it should be fair both both sides should have a chance to win the game for their TV and what are the great quarterbacks in the League right. Now, the Shawn Watson did not get that opportunity to do that. Now something happened in that game where really I think the detected ended the game and it should have had gone over time, and now this is two weeks in a row where we have seen coaches do this and. Oddly. Enough. You WanNa say both teams that did it were teams that are in losing positions teams that have started the season. All Bad. Last week, we saw the Minnesota Vikings. Go for it on fourth and one with they were in field goal rage and able to kick that field goal, it would have put them up a which would have made Russell Wilson the seahawks have to drive down all the way down the field to score touchdown eighty, two point conversion instead they went for one off at the one yard line. and. They get it. So the SEAHAWKS had the chance to go. All the way down the field all they had to do was score a touchdown to win the gate. It made it much easier on. You know he said that he win. Head. Coach of the Vikings Mike. Zimmer he with their to win the game Blah Blah Blah well then we had yesterday or Sunday. The. Houston Texans in our coach Romeo who's been in the League for a long time taking over for Bill Brian who got fired after week four. The texted drive all the way down the field at score touchdown with about a minute fifty seconds left. They score this touchdown to go thirty six to twenty nine, right. So right, it was thirty to twenty nine a Houston. The Houston drives all the way down the field. They score touchdowns go up thirty, six, twenty nine. So do the math that means they're up seven points, right? So if they kick the field goal. That puts them up eight points, which did Beads Ryan Tannehill and that titans offense which was scoring all day on that Texas team. So we all knew most likely they were going to go down score right bullet. They had to ground score and did a two point conversion and a two point conversion to the NFL is hard. I don't care what the analytic said, and that's why these people are going for it because it's all about analytics, analytics, data links, and listen I am not similar bash on analytics I like analytics I love that it's become a thing of the sport I think that it's made the sports better. But also there's a thing called. Situational football. and. Analytics does not take into account of the matchup you're playing at the situational football that you are in. What do you be that came on simple analytics is all based on the number. It's all based on the match up of the teams as a whole of the whole entire averages throughout the league. Well, that's not fair because when you have teams like the jets. Briggs an average much for their down that it really is much higher up than it really is they. They don't do it just specifically on matchup right on the team that you're playing example. Okay. Let's say sixty percent of the time the analytic let's say the analytic say that sixty percent of the time. A T that goes for goes for two will convert. Well, that's a pretty high number, right so coaches see that they get excited. Well, who are these teams convert what? Are, they are these teams could doing two point conversions against the jets against the giants is the Falcons. It gets really bad teves like or they doing it against the really good tease the packers, the box. Titans you know. So that's where I think analytics is a little bit too much to us too much where a head coach say, okay please don't get out of the analytics person, use the analytics, understand it but say to what we got to go with the smart move here smart move is the Texans are one in four. If they win this game, they have some life would be uphill battle, but they still had some life if they lose it, it's over. You go for to. You're automatically telling the titans all you have to do is score. To Tie the game and they scored all day, it's not score es a two point conversion. Well, the Texans ended up going to they did get it. The titans drove right down the field like we said they would they scored it went to overtime to Shawn Watson lost the coin toss. So he never get the ball got the ball, and now the titans are sitting there undefeated and to Shawn Watson the Texans are wanted five in their season is most likely over without some miracle win a miracle run. I just I understand their gold for the wicked. And I think it depends on where you're at sea by thinking is this. If. This was the opposite way around if this was the Tennessee titans that are sitting there at four, no have a really good season then heck. Yeah. Why not go forward onto why not put the Dagger Texan season like that. If you don't get it, you lose well, you lose your now see their four and one. You're still top of the AFC NORTH AFC skip south skews me. The Texans. This is a bus. We'd for the Texans. A less win. So why not make it harder as hard as possible your opponent to get that bus wing to bits for them to beat you. And I think the best way to do that would have been by going up A. so they had to go all the way down score aid get that two point conversion, which is very hard to get in the NFL because you're on the two yard line, the field shrieks it's hard. You don't have any place to roll out. It's tough. So that's my whole thing with the analytics in what Robo, NL, and Mike Zimmer to an extent did last week and it's just it's interesting because we see a lot of teams doing this in sometimes they. Aren't using the feel of the game. You know how big's fell just your your your gut feeling situational football backs all right now. Let's move into to the big news of the day. To tug of. I really don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right I. I'm sorry to hear you're not listening but I'm sorry if I am be the disrespect you it's either. Yeah pretty sure it's to talk about low or to by Ole I'm going to go to. Tug of I lower. What really to go with is just to hear. Okay. So. As we all know Brian Flora's head coach. The Miami Dolphins came out and announced that we are to take over the starting spot Ryan. Fitzpatrick will come on the bench well. They are they have a bye week this week they're sitting there at three three. Three three in the AFC east, they're in second place the buffalo bills have lost two in a row. They're now four to the Miami Dolphins are at three and three. The Patriots are two and three of the jets are at at six. So Biamby is fully involved in this division race right now. Actually they're so involved that out of all those teams, AFC's, they are the only team with a positive. Point differential the bills is MIDAS twelve. The Patriots. Won The jets is obviously a lot one ted, but the dolphins is plus forty seven. What does that the beads dead? They're not just beating teams there bts pretty handled. They're playing good football going into the bye could football. I mean really good football so's rife. It's patter. Ryan Patrick was playing outstanding football and I get it to what your special and I'm sure to always looking. Awesome. Awesome. It practice and I said you go check the tape I said before the season started I said that if true is one hundred percent healthy, they should play to a week one I said there is no point of starting the season all and either started get bad bring it to wait. To, get good breezy to in what does that do that just puts pressure on either in and save today or puts pressure on to make sure he cubs keeps playing well, that's not fair to he already has injury history you're put in a good environment. So either started week Y as long as one hundred percent healthy or let him sit in all all year like beholds did and they'd start year two week one next year, right? Well That decision was made that they are going to start coming off the bye next week. So won't be this week there. They'll be by the next week they will be starting quarterback for the three and three. Miami doll. I. Can fully say that I am shocked by this move. Look. Very excited. Okay. So there's two different thanks to different emotions are very, very excited because I can't wait to see out to a place. We see Justice Herbert. He looks great. We see job. Joe Burrow. He looks great vote they were showing really good flashes. So now we're just waiting to all right at out H. is to see a playoff excited to see a play I can't wait to see him play but I also at shocked. That they are putting because of what I just went through about how the dolphins are playing. And the situation. Also I do want to status to a digital last week for a couple of drives at the end of the game actually just one drive was to place at the end of the game against the jets. And after the game, there was a really cool viral picture of him sitting on the field face tidiest parents he's such a good kid he such a humble humble player and I really do want the best for you could just tell he wants the best to, but he has injury history. He's coming back from the HIP surgery. You know he was this legend at Alabama halftime of a national championship game to beat Georgia when Alabama was down out of it all of this stuff makes me so excited but I'm also worried. And I'm confused at why the decision is. Now, it just doesn't make sense to me. Follow me here real quick is I go down this road. Let's look. At the Miami Dolphins schedule. As they come back for their next week. So we look at Miami schedule, they have a bye week. They did play I the Los Angeles Rams. Who is all the? Rams yes that's right. Aired Free Donald the best defender in all of professional football and absolute grown man that REX and rex people do you really want your rookie who river has alive injury history to play his very first NFL game against that band that defense wine I don't? Care how good he was in college that worries me. And let's look at the dolphins offensive line. It's one of the worst of the NFL it is not a good a lot and yes, they aren't giving a lot of sacks and people are going to point to that. It say, Hey, world they're not giving up they're not giving up any sex. So how are they bad? They're not giving up any sacks because they have a guy at quarterback who has been played football for nine thousand years. It feels like it Ryan Fitzpatrick who's a true veteran? And he knows how to get the ball out of his hands quick. Actually if you look at it deeper at the statistics. He is getting the ball out of his hands the third fastest out of all QB's the NFL. It's like a two point, three seconds or something. So because of that, he is it taking any sacks because he knows how to get the ball out of his hands and remember we said this exact they would to was drafted I said, what is to learn if he wants to be successful in stay healthy most importantly in the NFL heeds to learn how to get rid of the ball quicker when I was in college he broke his hip because he held onto the ball too long. He got injured a lot because he held onto the ball long. If you hold on the Baltimore on college. You have no idea what that's gonna mean to the NFL. It is way faster. So, Patrick understands that the dolphins dolphins weakness is there a line? So he knows he has to get the ball out asap which again, he has been about two point, five seconds, which is tremendous I. Worry that to isn't ready for that and I'm sure to is dazzling practice and looks great looks ready to go and all that. But you can't tell that you're sieg enough for him practice to feel confident to put him out there. Every backup quarterback looks good in practice. And I appreciate the dolphins to have a have a plan, a gay play on where to get out there I. appreciate that that needs a lot that's smart Daiki but if their plan all along was to get him out there, the middle of October will did that's just a bad plan overall. It's just a bad plan. Overall also plans change based on what's going on in the organization and last time I checked what's going on in the organization is that Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing good football and the dolphins are three and three, and there would game out of first place in the AFC's wide make this move now. What I do not get it. I don't. I'm excited though and I'm GonNa love it because now I get to sit back and watch too and I hope he does well and I hope he stays healthy I can't wait to see how it goes so for selfish reasons very excited but also Very confused and surprise about how this wit Dow right now. Brian Four is is a tremendous coach being respect the heck out of obese doing such a good job down there in Miami. So I trust them and I'm sure he'll have things ready to go but it is definitely odd it's surprising. It caught. US. Off Guard. That is it folks. Thank you so much for listening to the GMC football podcast brought to you by the SEC podcast network I would like to ask that you please remember remember to subscribe to the show it right. A Nice review that really helps us out. Also, if you can't please follow us on facebook twitter instagram of really enjoyed talking to. You guys for for the hour twenty minutes today Red River on Saturday I will read out all tweets. 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Sports Talk w/ Lance 6/22/20

Lance McAlister

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Sports Talk w/ Lance 6/22/20

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Now sports talk on seven hundred wwl Jelly. Let's get to at six ten seven hundred wwl w. it is our nail. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance mcallister happy to be back? We have We have a topic. Eight dropped in our lap over the last ten minutes or so let's get to the headlines and we'll get to what has transpired in baseball within the last fifteen minutes. That's our headline. First headline the players according to multiple reports have voted no on the proposal presented by the owners and Major. League baseball by thirty three to five vote that means it is now in the hands of the Commissioner Rob Manfred what he does next May very well determined the course of baseball into the future as a sport, and as we know it details on that in just a second racing NASCAR GEICO five hundred. Talladega washed out yesterday. They're going at it today. At this moment one day after a noose was found in the garage of driver bubble, Wallace, all the drivers day rallied around his car, pushing his car, the front of the line and then. Then hugged the driver in an amazing scene Talladega today. They are still on the track where monitoring update later on NFL training camp start next month. The NFL today announced it his mandating that each team develop in infectious disease, emergency or emergency response plan that in addition to their team game plans. You would assume that would set forth. The teams protocols containing an outbreak of the corona virus teams must divide their organizations into tears designed to limit access to restricted areas such as the practice and stadium field, sidelines, locker rooms and training rooms to essential personnel only ESPN reports there have been heated discussions within teams as to who winds up in which tier. FC Cincinnati players back at it today. For a second week of full team training sessions, the team will depart a week from today for the upcoming MLS is back tournament in Orlando Golf. The first major of the year the PGA championship will be played at San Francisco's hurting park, but without spectators. The PG America announced the decision today after spending months considering other scenarios including moving tournament to another. Another venue there goes Asian decided to stick with its original site for the rescheduled tournament to be played. August sixth through the ninth. The PGA had been an originally scheduled for may fourteen through seventeen, but rescheduled due to the pandemic division. Three Bowdoin College in Maine has cancelled all its sports for the fall semester, because none of its students will be on campus and congrats the Xavier. Xavier's associate athletic director for Communications Tom Eiser in his department. XAVER men's basketball guide selected the second best in the country by the national panel of Media and design judges. Today it marks the second time in three years the fifth time in the last ten years the printed and online version of Xavier's basketball media guide has been selected the nation among the nation's top three, Kansas earned the top spot this season. Where everything else you've missed do this. Go to my blog. You'll find it at seven hundred wwl W dot com on the blog right now I've got the CINCY shirts and their campaign for Trevor Bauer to be the next commissioner of Major League baseball with t shirts to go with it. Check it out and more all at seven hundred w. w dot com all right. Here's where we're at. This is happening on the fly I'm gonNA open up the lines early because this now requires your reaction once I lay it out. Here's what we know at the moment. According to multiple reports, the major league baseball players have voted. Thirty eight votes total. That's an eight member executive subcommittee. That is each team's Rep. Thirty teams one from each team. That's a total of thirty eight people voted on the baseball owners proposal from last week sixty games, the players have voted no according to reports thirty three to five, thirty, three to five, no rejecting a sixty game schedule. What happens next? Baseball is now in the hands of the Commissioner Rob Manfred. He is expected I. Use should use air quotes. He is expected, and by the power given to him on March Twenty Six. He can implement. Their reports tonight that multiple owners have have pleaded with him to go ahead and implement the schedule tonight that a major league baseball schedule would be with wheels turning by some points tonight. The thought is given the power he has, he will choose to implement something in the fifty four to sixty game rage players that said notice. Sixty players have continually pushed for more games. Saying we want more, we'll play more at one point. The players I said we'll play one hundred and fourteen. At last week's proposal, the players countered and said forget sixty. We'll play seventy. There's enough on the calendar. Let's play. Seventy owners in the commissioner did not offer a counter. They stuck it sixty. In a sense and look at this from a basketball standpoint, this is holding the basketball and running out the clock. The owners had rob Manfred have held the basketball and said let's just keep waiting, and then we'll get to the point as the days are crossed off the calendar. They won't anywhere to go because we'll be down to sixty games left. Because that's all the calendar is going to allow. There is a chance tonight. That Rodman for majors go ahead and implements less than sixty. He could go fifty fifty four. It would be up to him in the season would start no earlier than July twenty six. Keep in mind with the players voting. No on this that means no expanded playoffs, because the players had offered as part of their deal, look, let's play more games and we'll agree to more playoff games this year and more playoff games next year. Let's expand the playoffs more TV money. By voting no today, they're part of the proposal is not included obviously and they so there's no extra playoffs now. What is beyond that? The players are expected to file a grievance. Rather than vote, yes, on this players will file a grievance and say citing unfair bargaining saying we wanted to play more games all along the calendar allowed for more games, all along there was not good faith bargaining on the part of the owners and the Commissioner. They seemingly did not want to play baseball. They kept knocking the number down. They'll file the grievance and hope and there was a thought last week. At some point, the players would win agreements, and that would scare the owners, and the last thing known one of at this point was losing a billion dollar grievance filed by the players. Understand this. What is going to happen next is going to be decided by the Commissioner. How do you think that sits with players in terms of the next bargaining agreement after twenty twenty one? I'm there was not a compromise reached here. There's not a deal reached. The players on one hand will look and say all right. The, the owners and the Commissioner. They chose the schedule. They didn't negotiate with us. Why the heck would we negotiate with them? After the CBA is done after next year? As buster only. tweeted moments ago, mutually assured destruction for Major League baseball. This is this is in the middle of all this walking in between the two sides. If you're rob Manford and then dropping this and Paul. Because now, it leaves little chance. They'll be any good faith to negotiate the next deal for Major League Baseball. Again. Bobby Nightingale says several owners are pleading the with the Commissioner to implement the schedule tonight. There is a thought that upwards of six to potentially eight owners. Don't WanNA. Play at all if they get aid. If the eight tell the commissioner tonight, scrap the season, we may very well by the end of the night. Have Fish Declaration that baseball twenty twenty as we know, it is officially over. I've got all the lines open to begin to show five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big, one pound, seven, hundred on a t and T. let's discuss as we continue sports. Talk Seven hundred WWL W. Six twenty five seven hundred wwl W carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm latch callister. Hang with me on this. Because this is your classic flying by the seat of our pants, this is unfolding because there are notes and nuggets in pieces. Dribbling in as we go the key to two keys here, the players voted no tonight. And now the players had agreed on March twenty sixth. Ultimately Commissioner would have the power to implement the schedule as he sees fit, so that is going to take place. The expectation is rob Manfred will. Call a season to start around July twenty six. The players will start packing their stuff. Tonight began making reservations. planes flights to to their respective. You would think most of their hometown the team's hometown. Where is Dick Williams has said in the past on reds hot stove. The REG would not hold spring training in Florida and. Holding in the state of Florida, elderly anything right now in the state of Florida, but it would be held at a great American Ballpark, and that the commissioner will implement a fifty four sixty game schedule and will have baseball. I always thought we'd have baseball I didn't think we'd get to it this way. There is a There's hollow hollow feeling to their a foreboding just. I didn't think I'd be gone for a week vacation and come back to this I. thought isn't my track. Record is I go on vacation and big things happen. It didn't nothing happened. Until I got back and what happened was wasn't even like good. So the track record is now out the window. Here's what the players have said tonight. Here's a statement issued by the Players Association quoting now. This just released a couple of minutes ago. the MLB Players Association. Executive Board met Multiple Times in recent days to assess the status of our efforts to resume the season earlier this evening before board reaffirmed the players eagerness to return to work as soon as possible, and as safely as possible to that end we anticipate finalizing a comprehensive set of health and safety protocols with Major League. Baseball in the coming days we await word from the League on the resumption of Spring, training camps and a proposed twenty twenty schedule. The statement concludes well. We had hoped to reach a revised back to work agreement with the League. The players remain fully committed to her preceding our current agreement in getting back on the field for the fans for the game and for each other. As pointed out on twitter, just moments ago by a baseball writer Alden Gonzales. The players, association said it will move forward with the terms agreed to on March in March. In March, which allowed Rodman for set the schedule as long as the players got full rated pay. That agreement was reached eighty seven days ago. He writes what took place in the eighty seven day stretch might define this industry for a long time. Think about that on March twenty sixth. March twenty six. Both sides agreed and shook hands, player said. We will we will accept in the understood. We will give you full rated pay. Pay You for the number of games you play. Player said we'll take it. And the player said, and if that happens, we will concede to rob man for the ability to set the schedule. He now has the ability to set the schedule. What has been happening in the eighty seven days since. This game has burned. And, while the country dealt with a pandemic, and while the country watched, unemployment, rates push towards twenty percent at times. Billionaires and millionaires. Who had agreed on something eighty-seven days ago. Drag their feet to varying degrees. And Eighty seven days later. With the clock all but run out. have. Now reached a point where the is going to say. We're GONNA play fifty four to sixty games. On one hand, the players are getting what they wanted pro-rated pay for the number of games they play. On the other hand, the major league baseball owners effectively crossed days off the calendar to the point where there's only. Fifty, four to sixty games in the neighborhood to be played with, or anybody likes it or not. But. Here's the question. Do you like it or not. Mark in Dave and Kylie and Paul Adam and Ron. are going to add thoughts and make contributions to the show because baseball is back. I don't feel like I I had hoped to feel. A check news Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Six forty seven hundred wwl, wjr nail carriers, sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC dot. COM and Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July Robert Murray writer makes an excellent buoyed on twitter. Considering we've talked about this. The opportunity to to take the stage had major league baseball played this correctly. tweets Major League baseball had a chance to be the first sport back and dominate TV ratings now. A July twenty nine start date, according to Bob Nightingale of USA, today would become would come a day before the NBA returns and the. Targeted postseason a complete failure well, let's not forget if baseball's back until July twenty nine now. The, MLS tournament starts July the eighth. Remember all the divisions of baseball, hot dogs. Apple Pie and Kelsey Chevrolet and baseball fourth of July weekend. Remember I, remember being very excited about that is Melody Natural Looking at July twenty nine and a mandated scheduled from the commissioner. So. The MLS soccer tournament will have been going on for three weeks at that point. If I remember correctly the Bengals I think the Bengals Open Camp, July, Twenty, seven or twenty eight, so the bengals will open camp before the baseball season starts. MLS is tournament will be three weeks underway by the bedtime. Baseball comes back the NBA playoffs will be the day before and right at the NHL is targeted postseason as well. Here is a final thought and we'll go to the phones. Here's the thing that frustrates me more than anything else in the entire process. It is the way the major league baseball owners. The commissioners have approached this all along. It's been less baseball. They reduced the draft from forty rounds to five. They won a contract upwards of forty minor league teams. Each of their proposals was for fewer games played. So motors according to the reports, not even wanting to play baseball, and on the other side of this there was once a players proposal said we'll play one hundred and fourteen. What are we doing here? The schedule would allow us to play one hundred and fourteen games. That's our proposal. And it kept being knocked down by the owners. To Sixty. And from last week to tonight couldn't even get the owners to budge off sixty to meet the players halfway between sixty and seventy. My Brother Matt tells me that would be like sixty five. They couldn't even get the odor's in the best interest of playing games. To move up five games. Okay, we'll play sixty five. That's been the most rain just makes no sense to me. How do you market and promote a sport? When your goal all along has been less of it. Let's wrap two thousand fewer players that a year ago. Let's eventually get rid of forty minor league teams while we're at it and by the way hundred and fourteen games. Let's play sixty games with like six older, standing up with a backstage, we'll wait a minute. Let's play no games whatsoever. We don't WANNA play. I just none of that makes me feel warm and fuzzy. I should be at least there should be a part of me saying. Yeah, they're going to play baseball and by July twenty ninth. I just. Mr Happy I missed her optimistic. I just I need to I don't have the strength to summon from deep within me my excitement yet, maybe by tomorrow I'll be too, but just. This doesn't feel exciting new baseball's back. To the phones. Hal about. By the way, let me give you one more. One more this was. Let's see if I can find it, and this would be the capper to everything we've here. We go Andy McCullough who writes for the athletic for the dodgers, as we wait word on one, and where there are twenty-eight markets where teams intend to play baseball this year, he says let's exclude Toronto because no one knows where they will wind up based on today's tracker of cases. Corona virus. Rising in fourteen of the twenty eight like markets. I need a drink. I've been on vacation for a whole week. I've for forty five minutes and I need a drink. I need multiple drinks. I may need a Keg. I didn't have any Kagan shot. Let's go here in Columbus Paul. You're on seven hundred WWL W. Yeah what started things by saying? I don't believe the owners are trying to minimize gains games. I'm sorry they're trying to minimize losses if they could get one hundred and fourteen games and play the pay, the players not at the originally agreed upon pro rated salary, which of course have a stipulation in the contract? We need. We might need to revise this agreement if there aren't fans, so they're not trying to minimize games. They're trying to minimize losses. Now what they've done, they don't even get expanded playoffs. The interesting part of the player. That's the only leverage. I think the players had with the agreement that the owners had voted down thirty eight to five that was the only leverage they had is essentially hurt the owners, not having playoffs now they'll get their full salaries, but it might not be the the sixty games. Leverage. They have is the grievance. That's going to be filed now. Right which makes me less optimistic. There's actually going to be baseball. No I think they'll thank you for the call. I understand mission. Something wouldn't be agreements like an injunction like keep it like what we'll play. This would be. We're GONNA. Play this because you've told us, but we're filing a grievance. Because the way you told us in the manner, we got to that point, and this would be play those sixty games, and then the grievance will be dealt with in the off season, and both sides will present all their notes and documents, and and zoom meetings and everything else in an arbitrator is going to have to sort it all out in say, yeah, the the owners were wrong and I wore the players one billion dollars. which is is a possibility. In the bigger picture of all this in so much, there's never been a big picture. Look at all this. There's never been a big enough scope of this to include the join innocence of the game from where you and I sit as fans, and there's never been an understanding of what the future of the sport might look like. If you reach the point where the commissioner implements that schedule, and says I declare you'll play this many games because you can understand the player saying all right screw, it will play sixty games right now I, don't think anybody would have a reasonable assumption that after next season, the players would say hey. Let's negotiate that new CBA. It will be ugly. It will be in the words of of some much smarter is relates to baseball that have texted me. It will be catastrophic. Because now you're talking about no twenty twenty two baseball season by way of a lockout strike, whatever mechanisms are used at that point depending on where we are the bigger picture of all, this is creating no goodwill. What so ever? For the next Labor agreement I mean think of that of that we're. We're we're can't figure out how many games are going to be played right now. Win The big hammer at all. This is the fact that is likely not going to be baseball and twenty twenty two. Breaking into a sweat. How. About how about here and Adam? You're on seven hundred WWL W. Well? I think the owners and the commissioner played this absolutely perfect on detection here. they played. You guys like fiddle. WHO's you guys? The radio. The media get everything. Because the whole thing about this is. You guys are thinking that owners are out. Win Championships. They're not. They're out to making money. This year was going to be rolled up as a loss anyway, so they wanted the least amount of games possible. There's no reason for them to come back in June. And being the only thing in town, because at that point in time then there's a ins-. An increased demand. People want to watch that sport. Wait a minute, so you think of a sport goes away for a year. It creates an increase in interest once it comes back. No, no what I'm saying is. If they came back and soon, there would have been increased demand in fewer ship because they would have been the only thing in town. So then the players that point would have a bargaining power as hey. Look at how much popularity we have. been at the next? Day, they would have some little bit of information right there. It's a bargain well. Let me ask you this before we go to break. What do what do then the owners? Ultimately some up your point at what do then the owners gained by this? What did he owners game by their? Yes, well the whole thing that they're trying to get its break the back of the the strongest Union in Sports, so I would say the whole thing is going after salary. Do you think that does for the game? The GAY Games GONNA be there regardless regardless of anything. The whole thing is trying to take the embrace the back of the. The majorly players association. Run I. Thank you for their anime. Thank you for the call. I wait I think I've lost track of the clock. I blame vacation. It is six fifty one. It's Arnelle carriers were stockbrokers I am supposed. Take a break, right. I haven't blown. I I'm trying to think. Did I take the break? And I forgot about it. No, I'm do one on seven hundred. You Will W. Moving up on seven o'clock big thanks to Justin Williams of the Atlantic is written an outstanding piece about how you see in Louisville. The basketball series was renewed. He was my scheduled guest at this point I I ask for His forgiveness, and saying which remind moving it to tomorrow night, because the baseball thing has been a so big out of the Chute, and he said absolutely. If you get a chance, read it the Athletic Dot Com. How John Brennan in Chris Matt Got Together and renewed the rivalry. We'll talk about that tomorrow. Night with Justin seven five tomorrow night on sports talk. Here's the other thing that it it just. Run the numbers through my head and I think that ultimately the difference between the sixty games there. It looks like they'll play what the owners offered and seventy. What the players ask for sixty seventy that difference was a grand total of two hundred fourteen million dollars. It broke down to about I saw the break down to about five million dollars per team to to actually is a little bit more closer to see eight thirty about seven I guess somewhere around seven million I'm doing the math in my head now right around seven million per team now that's very simplistic, but think of it that way. The gap. was seven million dollars per team about two hundred and fourteen I think it was if I remember been somebody numbers run through this that we're separating them sixty to seventy games, and you just wonder I'd be curious. What the difference in feelings would be between the two sides. If the owner said all right, we'll meet you in the middle of sixty five. Let's sixty four or sixty six. Whatever's easiest for scheduling purposes and let's go. I wonder how each side would feel compared to how they feel right now. When the Commissioner is going to tell the players. How many Games are GONNA play? Because that to me affects the big picture of the next agreement, they're going to have trouble reaching. Back to the phones. How about let's go here and ought to sell run? You are on seven hundred W. Escalating lamps and evening. Deal you. Hear somebody saying. The. Owners are the players all about baseball and. We don't care about the mummy. Let's just based on. What you're not gonNa hear that, but you know. Well, I mean from that standpoint I, can we? Would you agree that? The players wanted to? I mean the players wanting to play more games is a little bit easier digested the owners wanting to play fewer games, isn't it? Great, care. They're all being there, so they can actually scrap. Not, Care Yeah I've expressed that frustration about the owners all along I get people who roll their eyes at me I mean I feel I'm a truck driver and I've I've been dealing with over the last three to four months is getting supplies to the different grocery stores and consumers, and all of that to keep this country run. To twenty dollars an hour. But? When I go to vow game, I spend a big or Almost the point now where I just say. I don't even care about thanks. Paul and I've been following baseball for fifty five years. Yeah I think I. Think you have company in those sentiments in how you feel I. Appreciate Your hanging on tonight. Take care and call again all right. All Right? Thank you I. Don't think he's the only one who feels that way. And that then translates into what this means for not this season because they're only fans understand what it means for next season. I don't know I mean it's. I been so excited. Thinking baseball would be here at some point. And now it's here and I'm not nearly as excited as I I'm probably going to get there. When that first pitches thrown, but the way it got there the the making the sausage. FOOF. Independence, we go Riley. You're on seven hundred WWL, W. Hey, Lance. OB I'm thirteen I'm a huge fan, so I just wanted to say about how detrimental. This is GonNa be to baseball people. My Age I'm my school is that there's a lot of baseball fans, but there's a lot of them that. Watch it that really aren't too big, but with threads this winter growing all out the way they have become fans and I believe that do what the MLB has done. I think they're gonNA lose so many fans like those. Casual fans I think that now. They're not gonNA have as many as they do now. Overall can be terrible for the sport. Riley. You bring up a great point at all. I this this struck me and the players have released a statement tonight. The owners having but. I'd like to hear both sides. Say you know what we're sorry. We apologize for the way we acted and getting to this point. Fans deserved better, and we need to be better and I. Don't I. Don't think we're going to hear that. And that's that said we're are in the hunt. All I can tell you same they need. They need the late Manfred needs either resign or kid his stuff together, saying we agree on that Riley, thanks buddy have a great night. If they'll thank you Trevor Bauer has tweeted. It's absolute death for this industry to keep acting as it has been. Both sides were driving the bus straight off a cliff. How is this good for anyone involved tweets? Kobe nineteen already presented a lose. Lose lose situation in. We've somehow found a way to make it worse incredible. Trevor Bauer tonight. A reaction thoughts were getting baseball back looks like fifty four to sixty games looks like. Around July twenty ninth your feelings about that as we continue our L., carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. Let's keep moving. Seventy eight seven hundred wwl WPRO carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Alliance mcallister happy to be back after after a week off. had. A top gay dropped into my lap to lead things off. The players have voted tonight. Voted Down the proposal by the owners and Major League Baseball thirty three to five Bob Nightingale on twitter moments ago league. Baseball writer for USA Today Says Rodman has no plans to implement the season scheduled tonight or even tomorrow. The two sides still have to reach an agreement with Labor and health issues, perhaps delaying that decision so again. commissioner has the right as negotiated by the deal March Twenty back on March, twenty six to implement the schedule as he sees fit, it's believed that will be in the neighborhood of fifty to sixty games that means no extended expanded playoffs that the players had offered on their side of things and it means. Means Baseball around July Twenty, seven, twenty, eight, twenty, nine, somewhere around that point I know where there's going to be baseball coming up on July eleventh and twelfth in the form of a camp. It is the first annual Summer League Baseball Camp Summit Country Day on Saturday July eleventh and Sunday July twelfth. Our next guest is involved with said camp. He's the right handed Pitcher, the pride of Lasalle high school he was a midland pitcher as well and Miami Red Hawk. He was drafted in the fifteenth round by the Yankees just a couple of years ago in two thousand eighteen. It is a pleasure to welcome into the show. Nick Ernst Nick Lance McAlister. Thanks for having me I. appreciate it great catching up. You know I was thinking about this is get ready to talk with you. HOW WEIRD! This spring and the summer must be for you. When's the last time? You wouldn't have been playing baseball at this time in your life? I believe I was four or five. While Crazy time, and in the everything I thought I've ever. We were trading last week? This year you obviously are aware. The draft was reduced from forty to five. Had that happened two years ago? Your whole career path is different. Oh, yeah, absolutely I would add to give the school been a definitely a different path for me to take like. What says going through I'm sure a lot of guys. Work their tails off to get to this point now home five rounds and share a lot of guys. They're kinda getting the short end of the stick. Yeah Nicky in a perfect world. If everything was the way it was supposed to be where where do you think you would have been at this point? hopefully by now I would have been Tampa. Bay with the. but I think I probably would've started in Charleston, which is low. That either places and Near as bad as where I'm at right now. What what had day to day like for a minor league baseball player without a minor league season. We play. What what have you been doing? Wake up around eight thirty. Road work workout, just trying to say ready for. Whatever happens then I just not much for a lot of sitting around doing nothing. You're going to be doing something with the camp coming up the first annual summary. Baseball camp at Summit Country Day. Tell me about tell me about the idea. How did this come about? I was actually go from my Jerry. who has kinda been the? Ringleader of this group that we have. He's just kind of like do that'd be awesome. A baseball camp and I was like. Jerry! I got nothing to do man. I was like I think it'd be awesome to get the kids out ready. Get them. off the couch, playing video games and Get them out and learn some things and have some fun, so who you said, kids. Who is this camp for who can register up for this absolutely anybody? Anybody that wants to learn about the game and have fun for a couple of days. He's two days. It's July eleventh and July twelfth of Saturday Sundays at correct. That is correct. What will you guys try to accomplish with the kids in those two days? We're going to try to hopefully hopefully teaching a little something about the game of baseball and teaching. That baseball can be sean and I feel like a Lotta people are kind of. Losing the thought of Baseball being fun, everyone looks at it as boring and I think our main goal is just to go out there and realize how fun baseball really is. Baseball's giving. All four of us that are heading. The instructors at the camps that we've surrounded our life with baseball man everything. Everything that's going on right now. All everything's so negative we want. We want to have some fun and TC's kids a little bit and let them have fun I. See you are one of four instructors for this. Who Else is joining you? so my thirteen baseball. Okay to I'm sensitive. Son Then Jerry and Kane are the other two players as well. He coached all three of us. And he's honestly one of the various guys ever met, and is a real good coach, and then Cain Bateman and Jelly winning. They were roommates at Heidelberg, and I played with them growing up. And I played with Joey at Lasalle as well. And I'm looking at some of the details for this against the first annual summary League Baseball Camps Summit countries, Saturday and Sunday July eleven and twelve. May End Nice Bang for your buck. It doesn't cost a whole lot. You get some cool things that come with it explain. How much does it cost? And what are they get? So I believe it is. Thirty five for one day. For two days. and. You get a t shirt. Get lunch and you get a lot of. Experience Baseball players peaching it a game and I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun for everybody as well Nick for those listening who want more information. What's the best way to tell them do? find that information. You can go on twitter. At at Nikki one-two-three so and I C K y. e one two three. And you will outreach. Tweet it right after I get off here, so it'll be like my first tweet of my page, and you can message me You can email the email on there where you can text the number on that Flyer. I know you tweeted about this last night so I. Ask you. What did you watch the you watch the junior special last night. How good was that is awesome? Man I I. He's. Baseball players. I've ever had the privilege of watching. My My dad talks about the great eight all the time, but for me grown up Griffey was. Like for me, I was I batted left handed. Off Their him. I didn't hit very many home runs. Pitcher but. I definitely tried to model my swing Griffey. Here's a man. knicker hanging out with this picture at LaSalle. The Me Right Hawks a fifteenth round draft pick of the Yankees in two thousand eighteen, and he's part of the first annual summary League Baseball camp, coming up on Saturday and Sunday, July Eleven and twelve summit country day for kids to have a great time learned the game have some fun. Here's the most important question I'm going to ask you is. Is that Guy Joe Speed taking care of you? Do you need to like Ruffy upper? Advise him in any way now now. Always taking care of me. That, he is also invest guy he's. Fun To be around. He's just an overall great guy, and he does a great job representing me He actually during this quarantine. He took the time to get real estate license just in case. He could help any player he has. With real estate and all that stuff, so he. Takes! He! Takes Care of us. I don't think anybody would ever disagree that. He's represented. That is good to hear. That certainly sounds like the the Joe Speed. I Know Hey, this was fun I really appreciate your time. Hang in there and have a blast with this camping and put smiles on the faces the kids in. Let's keep in touch and talk down the road right. Absolutely mandate for the call. You got to take your nick. Go Nick, Ernst part of a a quad for them pulling off this camp, the first annual summary League Baseball Camp Summit, Country Day, the eleventh and twelfth of July and best of luck to Nick I think about that, no baseball for him for the first time since he was as he said four years old. There is a major league baseball. At least on the way it would appear at some point towards the end of July. We'll get into that. Grab Bob and Greg Joe and I know you've got a thought on this. So I'll give you lied. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pounds, seven, hundred odd at and T. R. L. carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, seven hundred WWL W. Seven twenty-three seven hundred WWL W. it's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm lions. mcallister glad to be back after a week off Gary. Jeff Walker's at nine tonight. He serves up the nightcap from nine to midnight. I had a rather uneventful. We well shouldn't say it was an uneventful I. It was from a sports standpoint certainly was uneventful, but I. I'm a big I listened to podcast a lot I walked thirty one miles last week listening to podcast I, watched now obsessing on watching tank and bar rescue. I watched it probably at least two or three episodes of each every day. I got a bit of a problem but I really liked those shows We celebrated Payton's birthday. Her Eighteenth Birthday we celebrated Casey's. Th anniversary of his bone marrow transplant so we had a great week WH- without sports and I think a lot of people have figured out how to have have if not great weeks at least different weeks, Wi without sports going on right now I'm still struck by and Joel Sherman of the New York Post just tweeted. Stay tuned. He tweets I hear Manford is holding a call with owners tonight, so let me let me do the cliff. Notes of this catching up. If you missed it earlier, the players voted the proposal down today thirty three to five every every team has one representative that's thirty and there's an eight member executive subcommittee. Eight plus thirty equals thirty eight. It was a vote of thirty three to five to reject the owners proposal last week of sixty games. The owners did not counter the player said, let's seventy in the owner said no. We're not counting. We're GONNA. Play sixty players of said no now. It is in the hands of the commissioner as mandated by the. The agreement back on March twenty six, a the players and owners agreed the players will get full prorated salaries March twenty twenty-six. The players agreed to give the commissioner the ability to implement a schedule on March twenty six. He's expected to do that maybe not tonight, but soon the thought is they would hit spring training by the end of the week, and the season would start no earlier than July. Twenty six, more likely closer to July twenty nine, it would be fifty four to sixty game season. That is unless. Unless, there's been a couple of owners who have been swayed and would come forward tonight. If they get eight owners at say, let's not play Then the season's over. The reports multiple reports indicate there were six owners nobody attaching their names to it. I don't know why if you don't WanNa play baseball, just say it, and then so your team, but I would think that would be Oakland Tampa Bay small Mark Kansas City. Six if those six could grab two more. Maybe on the call tonight. Maybe the commission comes out and says we've opted not to play baseball in in twenty twenty I do find it interesting if Once. The schedule is is implemented, and they say spring training starts whatever Saturday of this week. It fascinates me how the reds and how teams are going to pull this off because Dick Williams has said the reds would hold spring training at great American ballpark. They would not go to Florida. So imagine. You're going to carry thirty man rosters and with like a twenty player taxi squads. You're going to fifty players. Great American Ballpark has one field. So what is the extent of your spring training activity great? American ballpark with one field. You have bullpens the home bullpen. Bullpen! I'm you can do batting practice and I guess be hitting fung goes. I wonder if they would use the. The Urban Youth Academy that has indoor and outdoor, and I'm trying to think I've been there. How many outdoor fields do they one two three four? At least four fields, it might be as many as six they could use, and and then you would transport maybe a transport half of your hitters I there in do batting practice then flips into infield drills. You keep your. You're going to do. You would have to have multiple. I don't think you'd go to like. Could you in theory say hey, you see. CAN WE USE MARGE? Schott Xavier. Think, you'd want to I. Don't think they want to spread it out more than they have to. Could you do it just at the Urban Youth Academy and at Great American Ballpark for your spring, training and then you're down to. That's beyond hitting fielding batting practice. Can you run interest? Would you run Inter squad games like scrimmages at Great, American and others not involve working out at the Urban Youth Academy. I don't know. Go back to the phones oil when we continue. We've already reached the midway. Point of this show I've a I've scrapped effectively about forty five minutes to this show that we're supposed to be something else. We are. We are riding the wave as they say. I had a couple of bengals segments coming up. Those are now scrapped. We'll do those tomorrow night. I do WanNa get to a segment on at least a segment on junior and the MLB network piece and I had planned, and this may be in jeopardy. Eight o'clock hour wanted to wrap up. We didn't get to do an off the beaten path topic on Friday. Because I wasn't here, we didn't get to do a father's Day in sports topic on Friday. Because it wasn't here, I might. I might be able to swing it after we run through some more calls on this to do a little bit of a father's kids and sports moments topic in the eight o'clock hour. I think I can make that happen. Of course we'll wrap things up with on this date in reds history. We'll get back to doing that as well all right. THANKS FOR BEING A. A part of the show to this point, there's much more to get to. We are sorting through the news of the day. which leads us to which we we think is going to lead us to a baseball season that will be fifty four to sixty games, assuming aside from the owners and players everything else happening in the country allows for baseball season to be played. And I think that's a rather big assumption. At this point seven thirty check on news arnold carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred. W W staff, Tom. Seven thirty nine seven hundred wwl whol carriers, sports doc presented by Kelsey, Chevrolet, are in L. Carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC dot. COM Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the air collision. Repair Center in July what. What might happen and again a call is taking place tonight with the commissioner and the owners. It's not expected hill implement the schedule tonight for the start of the season and send teams to training cab. You wonder what will happen to guys who are run through the scenarios if you were a free agent. At the end of this year. And your your sense is spring. Training is going to be Kinda. Hokey and the season's going to be kind of a sixty game as I don't want to say. Is it worth my while to do it? If you're a player, how many will think? There's too much at stake here. That could go wrong. From an injury standpoint. There's only air quotes. Going to be, sixty games. What if I have a poor performance, or what if I get injured in the rush through spring training to get to the start of the season. What if it damages free agent value if your JT, Rail Muto McKee bets or Trevor Bauer or others say you know what I'm. I think I'm going to sit out the rest of the season. Versus than the the bigger picture of what the free agent landscape is. GonNa look like anyway at at the end of the season again, keep in mind. The twenty twenty one season. After that season is over the collective bargaining agreement expires. So you thought this was bad. What we've been going through for the eighty seven days since the initial agreement. This was to get us to. This point of the season. Stop to ponder what it might be like going through getting a completely new collective bargaining agreement after the twenty twenty one season, which then creates scenarios to run through your head of an owner's lockout, a players strike a complete. Attempt to remake the game and no baseball play I mean I don't think it'd be a stretch. If you're willing to burn it down this much to get to this, would it be a stretch to think? If. You're willing to do this for sixty games. Would you really bat an eye if if it wound up at no baseball in the twenty twenty two season. If, they argue this much over this. What do you think they're argue like? After the Commissioner has then implemented the schedule on his own, what do you think the two sides are going to be like in terms of negotiating the future of Major League, Baseball, after twenty, twenty one. Back to the phones. Georgetown is the stock. Georgia Greg you're on seven hundred WWL W. Thank you. Not what you said, a relaxed I power our whatever I've been on hold. Screen, a lot another. Not More slots in my hands, but my initial remarks where you know. The second game you know. Everything already being known and SAS, water under the rich I think. Man for in the sense, the fire I would just go ahead and split the difference sixty five games. They might fight actually gaining some traction as a as a commissioner I mean, he's not the most popular one in the world to finally As far as the collective. Agreement next the I think that's just cross that bridge only come do it. Play Ball. Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice I mean something. Just Play Ball Let's see home runs and strikeouts in in wins and losses and and I I look. Forward to debating debating like little stuff like batting, order and pitching strategies. Why did you take you about then? Or why did you take him out there and Why isn't this guy play? I missed so much just regular. Baseball Talk Right now. I can. Relate to that I'm like one of your previous caller truck driver and I missed listening to my games on the radio and. I hear that Hey, it means a lot you call thanks for the kind words and call again. Hey thank. Have a great night I guess. There is the aspect that does excite me that I can actually begin to allow myself to think about the inside pitch every night at six, o'clock knowing where I'm going to be what my topic is going to be. And then. Watching listening to the game. And then coming back after the game until midnight, taking your calls reaction to the gate. That's so much more enjoyable than I mean. I've spent the better part of an hour and a half tonight jotting down and I I'm getting so many people around baseball and jotting down notes about stuff that I'm just worn out talking about CBA's fifty four to sixty games commissioner implementing schedule six owners, not wanting to play. What if they get to more owners and they don't play? All of that stuff is just it's minutia to me. I just want in. This is what has been lost the entire time. The Joy and innocence of actually playing the game. Westerville we go, Joe. You are on seven hundred WWL W. Land. Up in Westerville. Years ago, reds fast. Hey, good to hear from you great to hear from you. Neither side really wanted to get an agreement done. They're both Duggan like old mules. Like old meals. And you know this was a real task for both sides to come together and say hey, you know on something right now. We could get an agreement and would possibly make everything easier against twenty two. So now instead of doing this, both sides are imploding the sport and they are imploding it. Yeah, and I. It's going to be ugly and twenty two and right now I'm just so tired and worn out tomorrow with if they WANNA play this year. Great if they don't I'm fine with that, too. Minute Fan for fifty five years you. Get Tired of Yeah you've just summed up what I think. A lot of people feel right now that. They liked baseball, but there's been so much law perspective on this is so far gone. Well all these two sides have bickered and I get there's a business site to and I understand the business of baseball, but they lost sight of everything else about the. Fans and the kids and where the game is in this game's not well enough off to have bickering. Go on to do this to the game. And and I'll say that I'll tell you if they do twenty game schedule. I think it's GonNa be really ugly. If you're a free agent, you know he might have to go out there and play, but I see some big starts sitting out. And then you know. Hopefully I'll be back there in March for the star of the red season. I'm a season ticket holder down there but. Trevor Bowers, comment tonight. You know actually what they're driving the bus off the cliff. Hey He's sitting in one of those seats to manfried driving the bus and the owners and the players are all on it. Yeah well done baseball. You're really doing. They're doing a great marketing job. They're doing a great marketing job. We're cutting minor league teams. We don't WanNA play a lot of games. And you know the Kobe going on people out of work well I. I want one hundred percent I. Want my cat. Well, you know a lot of people don't feel sorry for Ya. No doubt lost so there so far so far out there. You know there's people out here struggling and so. They WANNA play this year. Great but I'm ready. For, next March. Joe, I'm glad you called call again. Some time I will have a great day. Thank you. I. That's a theme tonight if you feel that way. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred pound, seven, hundred on at and T.. We've heard so much in the back and forth this side leaking this information this side leaking that information. I've said you've been lost in all this. What would you say tonight? We know where the game sits tonight. It sits in the hands of the commissioner who will implement a schedule probably in the neighborhood of fifty four to sixty games. The players had said well. Let's play seventy and the owner said we don't WANNA play. Seventy and we're not going to counter to sixty five. I still believe here's. What here's what I don't get. I, get negotiations I just can't believe Rob Manford at some point and I know he's got to corral thirty owners Tony Clark he's got a corral. Players I get. That's a difficult job for both I just can't believe the commissioner didn't say to his owners. Hey, let's let's do this. We're at sixty at seventy. What do you say? We just split the difference by what I've read the easiest way to put the schedule together. In terms of how many games you play in division out of division is at sixty four. I think it is or maybe I saw Jim to put together sixty six. Whatever it is guys, let's just pick. That number will be in between. Both our sides will look. We'll put a smile on our faces, and we'll hold hands for this and say. Let's play baseball. I, don't know why he would I don't know why he can't get the owners to that point of saying look, you know what the optics are. The optics are you guys don't want to play baseball. The players at one point offered to play one hundred fourteen games. You is owners are now down to offering sixty games. Let's. Meet them half way. And then WHO's going? There will be hard feelings, but if you meet halfway, think of the presentation, the owners and players have agreed tonight to a sixty six game schedule. To be implemented by the end of the week with teams reporting to Spring Training on Saturday morning. Think of how much better that sounds in that would be at the expense of. Six more games or or for more games I just for the life of me I just get it. Seven fifty arnelle carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Bush up on eight o'clock. That'll be newstime. Holy Moly to finish to this race at TALLADEGA NASCAR. Ryan Blaney Wins Unofficially. Blaney Wins Stenhouse Second. L. Merola Third Eric. Merola finished third crossing the finish line backwards. He split out and I'm watching this I'm like whole hoped not wait wait a minute. Why and he's spotting and crossed the finish line backwards? Just finish third. bubba Wallace finished a career best at Talladega fourteenth. Looking here unofficially, Blaney, Stenhouse Al. Merola Hamlin Jones Buscher Bowman. nemechek Kurt Busch and Harvick rounding out the top ten that. was supposed to go yesterday. Rain washed out. It goes tonight, and we can get your eyeballs on the finish. Look at the the stretch run and the The finish line at Talladega tonight holy cow. Let's go here Anderson Bob. You're on seven hundred W W. Lance are you I'm good. How `Bout! You. Can. Hear it clearly yes. Thinks I want to say. The first thing is. The weight across. The coronavirus is everybody to wear a mask out in public. That being said. And fifty overweight. Pressure. And I absolutely one hundred percent. Go to reds, game. Now, as long as everybody else that more men. Okay, so what do you and that's not an option right now? But what do you think about baseball reaching well, not reaching an agreement, but baseball appearing to be coming back. Well I, agree with everything. Everybody else what they said that you know this is It just makes baseball. Look World Australians the fans. I sent you a tweet. Last Monday because I thought it was gonNA. Last Monday. And I. Go on vacation. That's right. I was my vacation was supposed to help this process. They did nothing the entire week I was gone. So. Who knows if that will work again? Lance, but We all went back and it just. I I've been reds fan all my life. And I'll I'll still be a reds fan. Access is over. I just want. We all just want basement or comeback. We all looking for something else to do. And It's just a shame i. wish they would offense because the NFL says they're going. Allow fans in well. It's going to be limited in Bob I gotta go, and we're praying to a whole different field of conversation that I'm not. I'm not really working on it. This boy because that's down the road and that's out of the hands of. It's certainly not even in the conversation right now whether there's. There's going to be fans in the stands, or how many fans are going to be in the states? They can't even figure out in some cases where teams are going to hold spring training. Some teams are still undecided on. We're going to go to Florida now. We're not going to Florida and the mets and Yankees now. We're GONNA. Train in New York where you know if you went back. A month ago two months ago, you would have thought well. There's no way in hell. The Yankees and mets are gonNA. Hold Spring Training in New York City, and now that's back to being an option because Florida's no longer an option and this is in the backdrop of everything. We've been discussing to this point. The owners and players when Alta. would. It really surprise anybody. If there wasn't a season. On account of what happens. Continues to happen or ramps up in happening with the virus at this point. There are so many things set so far ahead that they look good set that for ahead, but the closer we get to him. Get to him like more and more I think each is going Oud. Okay and women now. We didn't count on that. We didn't count on this and now. What are we going to do with this? It looked great. But it's almost now the all. Believe it when I see it. Better get to a break. I'm a minute late I've been very bad at this tonight. I gotta get back in a rhythm. It is Arnaud Carrier Sports Doctors headed by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred W, W. The following takes place between eight PM. Nine PM. Let's keep moving. Eight hundred nine seven hundred wwl W, ardell carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance McAlister very happy to be back Let's say this in the in the eight o'clock hour, the first two hours have been. There's been a big topic aid that it's kind of blowing everything out of the water, and yet it is something that has agitated and worked up people and depressed some people, and it's it hasn't been. It's been I've enjoyed the conversation, but after two hours of it i. need something that kind of lifts me up. A little bit lifts the spirits and always. I always do a topic around father's Day. I was not here last week. We didn't get to do what on Friday. Friday night didn't to Garrett around the off the beaten path topic and I i. don't want to let father's Day. Pass without doing this topic and I think it's something that can work in this hour and I've been thinking about it. I, I do topic along these lines ever year on Father's Day weekend and I got an email from Karen talking about her dad and I. Thought you know what I I gotTa do it tonight. It's one of those use it or lose it. Should have been done on Friday. A do it tonight and all incorporate you what I'd like to do in this hour is. Have you think of something related to fathers and kids and sports things he did with your father things. You've done with your kids that have been tied to sports that bring a smile to your face of memories from years ago, recent memories just think father's kids, sports and a moment to share. Karen in her email to me, said that her dad has been an usher for the reds for fifty years. Ed Guild. They know him as Eddie at the ballpark. Is Friends. Everybody's friend at the Ballpark Eddie Gill? This would this would have been his fiftieth year and obviously bummed. The season has been. Non Existent to this point, but she mentioned he opened Riverfront Stadium he still working out. Great American ballpark has seen it all, and she has a daughter I. Had a sports fanatic dad and grow up between two brothers so anytime. We were with dad alone. It was about sports I'm an avid sports fan. I have early memories of being taken across lake, field, royals, games, and especially big time wrestling downtown, seeing flying Fred Curry in the chic I hated it. It would sit on his lap and cry because I. I was scared, but my brothers loved it in would run down in taunt them. My Dad has also a huge NFL fan, and also works as a bengals usher by. Dad has also influenced his grandkids and great grandkids to be reds. Fans Karen, thank you and and Eddie Gill Happy Fathers Day. It got me thinking and I wrote about this over the weekend at seven hundred wwl W dot com of the moment I think of that define either that happened with my dad or with my kids. Or with me and my dad and went with Casey The biggest moments I shared with my dad specifically. A couple of one we were at riverfront for Pete's forty, one ninety two, and we drove over three consecutive nights from Carmel Indiana to Cincinnati I got a class each day at Butler. We bought tickets in advance of the start of the year around the block of when we that period of time we projected to be closing in on the record, and we drove back and forth. Monday. Night's game Tuesday night's game. He set the record on Wednesday night's game. We were there along the third base line. I'll never forget that night. I was with him at baseball heaven. In two thousand and six, my dad was sixty four at that time. He started every game at third base for our team. We played for the Power Jacks managed by Jack Billingham. I'll never forget how sewer were on day one. That was the day it was the Sunday of our first workouts in the super bowl was that night that was Pittsburgh and saint as Pittsburgh Arizona. I I don't remember, but we I just remember being sore. We both collapsed on our beds with ice in hamstring issues and everything else, but we We played the week. We won the championship. He scored the winning run on a Bang Bang play at the plate, and he played every game at third base at the age of sixty four and I get to play with him that week. The biggest moment coolest moment I've had with Casey. We were in the moon deck in two thousand and twelve, for Jay Bruce Clinch Miss. It was a school night we kinda. You know forget about what what a normal bedtime is. And that that game that moment in iability on the blog of of us in the stands as that ball left the bat, and the euphoria, and the jumping up and down to the high fives, and the celebrations, and the fireworks, going off directly above us from the smoke stacks, and and the high fiving of perfect strangers, and what that scene was like and to be there that night with Casey I will never forget that. Never forget father's Day catch at great American ballpark with. Pain or down the field, this was through the Reds Community Fund and they're playing the field of dreams music and we've all got our MITTS and. Casey's probably eight Peyton six. Maybe we're down on a major league field. They're playing field of dreams and we're tossing the baseball back and forth I'll never forget that. You have a moment. Involving Your Dad. Or your kids. Related to sports and thinking about it just put a smile on your face. Now I'd like you to tell me about it. At Five, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one and pound seven, hundred on a t and t hours. Joke I learned to do math. I learned division. Thanks to my dad. Who taught me? By computing batting average, we would sit every night. Sit on the arm rest of his chair every night. When he came home, we looked through the box scores and we'd. I'd learn math. He says all right here. You know figure out how many ambassadors Pete have. How many hits does he have? You're going to divide this into this. And what is his batting average? Hitting three twenty seven says you just. Did you just did division math? You gotta like Whoa. That was pretty cool I. don't really like Mad. Figuring batting average so I'm starting to figure out all the reds players batting averages. My Dad was my coach from the time I was. What seven all the way up to write about high school? It all, it amazes me even more now that I don't believe. My Dad ever missed a practice or missed the game. He was the coach but he was also the regional manager for Ashland Chemicals, and knowing what it's like scheduling wise with my kids when they were growing up Casey baseball, peyton soccer the challenges of trying to get to their games. I don't know how he did it. I have a great appreciation for the fact he did. He would take me to the batting cages every Saturday morning before our games, the Logan Airport batting cages, and I would take Casey to the hits batting cages in Covington before Games My Dad took our team to see the reds for kid glove night at Reverend, stadium for years. Never Forget walking out of Riverfront Stadium in in June of Nineteen, seventy seven with my dad across the walkway from riverfront past riverfront. Coliseum and I was holding the transistor radio and I heard. Mardi announced that the reds traded for Tom, seaver. Hit Number Three thousand with my dad against the Expos in nineteen, seventy eight. I took Casey to his first baseball game in June of two thousand, it was against the twins. He was less than four months old. At that point. The reds honor the big red machine and Casey cried. If you remember Barry Larkin, the the rose at third base because Pete Wasn't allowed there on Casey, cried and cried, and he cried because the ovation's were just off the charts for that game. just some of the things that I thought of yesterday and I thought for this topic again I, don't i. I always enjoy this and I even know it's the day after. Please give me a little bit of leeway to do it tonight at eight o'clock hour. They're just a lot of things that combine sports and me and my dad or sports and me and my kids, and if they do for me, they'd probably do for you and I'd like to hear a story. I said last week we were we before we were talking about cross country. TRIPS road trips, and how many have been canceled because of Covid nineteen and we took a cross country trip for years ago me. My Dad Casey Jeff to the car and drove whatever it was thirteen fourteen hours to Cooperstown, and were therefore the induction ceremony for King Griffey Junior. Never, forget the night walking out of here. And I walked I, was walking down the hallway to exit the building, and I got the text from Casey saying he had made the Simon Kenton baseball team. The the JV team. This was a sophomore I. Guess it was that he made the JV team was at freshman first time, and he had made the JV team, and I remember I one I remember how nervous I was the entire day knowing the announced what was going to be made that day, and as I see the text, come up and it's from Casey and he says I made the team on forget that night. When we come back, I'll take your calls. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred pound, seven, hundred on at and T., R. carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred wwl w. Eight twenty, five seven hundred wwl W, it's and L. Carriers sports talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Bob Nightingale senior baseball writer for the sporting news tweeting seconds ago. There will definitely be a sixteen game season further details I would assume coming. I assume that's come from the call tonight between Manfred and the owners all right. Let's take some calls and that's the other thing. I think what I think of sports in my kids. I already miss I. Miss Their Games being done. And I say this for the parent who has a younger child, and there will be those moments you think. Oh, man, my Saturday is filled with. We've got baseball and soccer, and it's and it's hot, and we're in the middle of nowhere in this game is GonNa take forever. I'm telling you win. They're done. You'll wish they weren't. And I didn't I. DIDN'T I and I'm not saying I didn't enjoy those games. I'm saying. I'm miss him because my kids are done playing in. There's not going to be any more games. I'd like to be able to watch another one of Casey's games. I'd like to be able to watch another one of Payton's tournaments and they were. Weekend tournaments and all parts of the Midwest. Long Travel Hotel rooms, sometimes freezing weather, sometimes blazing hot weather, no matter how you feel about those in the moment with your kids right now. Remember what I'm telling you tonight. They are going to be gone. They're going to end at some point and you're going to say God. I Miss Those Games. And I do. I miss the look on their faces I miss the excitement of the competition for both of them when they gotta hit, or or scored a goal or high five teammate, after a win or were were bummed in the car driving home after a loss. The clock has run out on those for me. Kids have grown up. Just, keep that in mind. If you've got kids in youth sports, there will be a day where your your son's game. The pitcher on the other team walks seventeen guys. And you're thinking. I can't take this anymore. I know I could be doing a lot of things. I could be drinking a beer at home on the patio. Destroy Remember what I told you tonight. Go back to the phones. How `bout? Let's go here in Loveland. Frank. You're on seven hundred wliw. Hello, Frank. Frank was there now. He's GonNa about. Hey Mad. Hey? Yeah. Yes! I got father's store. Group in a small town in West Sexually Indiana. Kind of in the heart of like coats, cardinals and red. Territory I to Cincinnati areas about twenties. Chicago Twenty Five. Sample, so we got a big family rivalry. Nationally themes. Anyway, my dad was. Tough Fan although I would take into reds games so these past few years, and he enjoyed very much, but he he said I'd like to get to Wrigley. To take again. He was eighty nine years old at the time. So my under-blown is supposed on since take so me and my son, my younger brother anger brothers line tag along, but anyway we got great shape for like a second deck, right behind home plate. The cats had a new young catcher Wilson Travers. Yes, and we started his first Major League at night. Pirates and the first book. Had some memory. Oh! Yeah father's. Day. Two, thousand, sixteen at. A that is fantastic. That's the kind of store in for Matt. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Have a a story. Would you like to share it? It is made you smile tonight. Back to your dad or thinking about your kids, and in those moments shared with them. I did. My daughter and I do like we growing up. It would be daddy daughter lunches and I either go to school and have lunch with or when school's out. During the summer we'd we'd pick a place and go for. We did a a daddy daughter road trip to see the Columbus crew. She's obviously played soccer. Her whole life and I said how about our get tickets. Go see the Columbus crew and we had lunch. Lunch at Eddie Georgia's place in Columbus, then went to the game and had a blast that night watching watching soccer this Bob Nightingale USA Today tweeting within the last minute major league. Baseball has decided to play a sixty game season. If the Union agrees to have their players report by July first, and they agree on the safety and health protocols in their operating manual Major League Baseball once a decision by five pm tomorrow. Five PM. Tomorrow Sixty game season. Players Reporting July the first. Rico and Keith and Jim and Carl and Eric and Bob have stories and contributions to make. We gotTA Hustle. We'll got a check on this date in Reds History at eight fifty Gary Jeff Walker serves at the nightcap. I know five. It all plays out after news. Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred wwl W in today. Eight thirty, eight, thousand, seven hundred wwl. Carriers sports presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet. Again the owners Major League Baseball issued a statement tonight. They are asking for the players to agree to the sixty game season, and the health and safety protocols by five o'clock tomorrow Andrew Report to spring training by July the first in one week, and then it will be a sixty game season. There will be a Universal D. H. in twenty twenty since it was already agreed upon as part of. Of the health and safety protocols, but not in two thousand and twenty one the way it's reading and various reports tonight. Universal da everybody has the D. H. in two thousand twenty i. find it hard to believe wants to do in twenty twenty back out of doing I. I think what's to go. It'll be go for the rest of of baseball Quick note before I run out of time, and I asked this every year. And I. Don't ask this favor lightly. We celebrated Saturday was the seventeenth anniversary of Casey's bone marrow transplant. And it was a bone marrow transplant that saved his life, and it was a bone marrow transplant that came thanks to a perfect stranger. Casey had been diagnosed with am L. Leukemia. He had gone into remission. The leukemia came back. doctors told us he that it was. It was a bone marrow transplant that was that was his last chance, and we were nobody in our family was a match me. Kelly, my daughter, none of us in the family were match. We were at the mercy of the National Donor Program. The bone marrow donor program. And they found a donor who was close enough to a match that they had to try, and doctors told us there is about ten percent chance. This is going to work. And I'll never forget thinking. Ten. percent is better than none We'll take ten. and. The woman who wound up being Casey's donor was a perfect stranger who is living in the Boston suburbs. mother had been in the system for over a decade had never been called. They reached out to her. She agreed to donate her marrow. And that day Saturday was the anniversary that day was is the. scariest day of my life. I able to laugh at certain parts because we I'll never forget getting the call, and they say the Marrows in-flight. It's on the way. And it was a igloo cooler. It got its own seat on the plane. There was a doctor in one seat, and there was a cooler with the marrow that she donated a and the other. And as as scary as the whole thing was, he was wide awake during the bone marrow transplant. It's basically a either that hooks up and drips into a vein in his arm, and it took about ninety minutes. He was awake the whole time he watched out. Never forget this. He watched trading spaces, which was T. l., C.. Show was about homemake overseas. We were watching on a whole lot of channels, but we were watching that and when he got done, he looked at us and he said in Casey's at this point, he's four. He said I'm hungry. and. We ordered Spaghetti from the children's hospital since children's hospital cafeteria and they brought up. The Spaghetti for dinner. But it was a perfect stranger who saved our son's life? That was seventeen years ago. He's now twenty. He's about to become a junior at the university, of Cincinnati and I bring this up for this reason. Please consider going to the website. Be The match dot Org. Be The match dot Org. The test is simple as they will send you the kit. It's a swab along q tip. Swab your right it on the inside of your mouth. You put it in the packaging and you send it back to them. You were entered in the system. You may or may not be called a lie. It's not an easy process If you imagine gigantic needle eighteen inch long needle being placed into your hip and the marrow being draw from inside the bone. I mean it no needle in the the hip and the bone and can imagine that's not exactly fun. But without that perfect stranger and Understand the sense of helplessness win. You can't do anything to help your child. And you're wondering when it's being run through the system if anything's going to click. At. It does to the point that we have to do this. It's not there's like five points I want to say for a bone marrow match, and it matched on like three of the five and the doctors told us we're going to do it. We have to do. But this is what you're looking at from an odd stand boy, and then there's graft versus host disease. You're always worried about and checking and see if a rashes developing in the weeks after that long story short. You can save somebody's life. By signing up for the program, be the match dot Org. There's more information about that on my blog at seven hundred wwl W, dot, com and I I. Tell this story every year to stress, you can make a difference. You can save somebody's life. and. We think that that donor in Boston. Go back to the phones. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one and pound, seven, hundred on at and T.. How about terrorist perk we go hey, Keith! Welcome to the show, you pedigree baseball story. Both of my boys when they were young and I get what you're saying. I miss it over, but I got back into playing ball, so I haven't played high-school in my early thirties. That's almost thirty and over local. Ball my older son is a pitch. People in college and. They and he gets out of college. They dropped the eight so when I'm over part of thirty and over and twenty, six, twenty, seven I got to catch flights on. vk. Game Oh. They want Louis on. It was awesome against some pretty good players. It was oh. The hair is standing up on my arms. One four to just one of the most joyful moment. With your son before i. Man You you with that story. Thank you for sharing. Keep about all right take care of nats when I'm looking for now was good all right. Let's take a timeout head down the stretch to it on this date and rates history and ran out with your calls and your memories. We've tied one day later. We tied in the fathers and kids and sports stories, and you've been fantastic at sharing them, so thank you. It's our. No carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. The music tells us it's time to go back in time. Let's remember what happened on this date in reds history this date eighteen, eighty two. The reds beat the Pittsburgh. alleghenies five to to the game ends on a triple play I wonder how many times in baseball this may be. The only time that a game has ended on a triple play by the way the reds were the home team in that game. They batted first because at the time. They used to toss a coin to determine who got to choose who batted first in the game. Don't tell rob Manfred that that'll be part of the new plan for visa. This nineteen twenty nine Ethan Allen becomes the first national eager to hit a ball over the center-field Wall at redland field in Cincinnati Ethan Allen grew up in Mount Washington went to withrow high school, which at the time was east high school that he went to UC. I did not know that Ethan Allen also after he retired created tabletop baseball, a popular board game, he went on to coach the baseball team at Yale for twenty eight seasons, including the team that played for the. The National Championship in Nineteen, Forty, seven and forty, eight with George W Bush as the first Baseman, this date nineteen, forty seven. You'll black well as two outs away from back to back, no hitters would johnny, Vandermeer on the top step was waiting to run out of congratulating Eddie Stinky singles for the dodgers in the ninth, and there goes back to back no hitters this date, nineteen, sixty six by a vote of eight to one Cincinnati City Council approves the building of an enclosed circular designed stadium, a new fangled thing. You would be called Riverfront Stadium. This Day nineteen seventy-six Freddie Norman a little left-hander, complete game, four hit shutout of the dodgers, six nothing at Riverfront Stadium, the length of the game, two hours, and two minutes nineteen, seventy, seven on this date Joe Horner pitcher made his debut in the reds. Here's what he did with I five pitches. He threw a wild pitch with the bases loaded scored a run. Then he threw three consecutive balls is part of an intentional walk to wrap up bad, and then the very next pitchy through to Larry Bowa who hit for a Grand Slam, the only Grand Slam and Larry. Boas career. How about that five pitch debut for Joe? Nineteen ninety-five on this date, reds beat the braves nine hundred Riverfront Stadium. They score five runs in the eighth inning by way of pinch hit homers Eric Anthony. Pinch hit three right homer anti-taliban. See a pinch it two run homer nineteen ninety-seven on this date, bret and Aaron Boone play together on the field for the first time, and the reds loss to the cardinals five to two pokey. Reese had a big game mistake. Mistake one, thousand, nine, hundred ninety nine Polka with five hits, a double, a triple and the game winning hit with two outs in the ninth is the Ridge Arizona Eight the seven this date two thousand eleven Chris Hazy hit three home runs against the Yankees. It was game two of a doubleheader. The two teams would split and finally this eight thousand thirteen I remember this one. The reds lost in Arizona four to three. The Red scored two in the top of the ninth to take the lead on Jay Bruce two run homer Aroldis Chapman then faced four batters in the bottom of the night single walk walk to run single ballgame over. He doesn't retire batter. The reds lose that the diamondbacks four to three all of it happening this date. In reds history all right back to the phones. Wrap things up in Moro Rico your seven hundred WWL W. They Lance. How are you buddy? Thank you for hanging on what you got. Well just a couple of things number one. You and I don't agree on a lot of. But He touched the spot. My heart today when you're talking about your children. And once it's gone. My My daughter I was fortunate enough to have a daughter. Two daughters the one who was a track athlete at Mason. And school records and degrade. Division One. Track and you're right. Her her meets were very close, but we would go there every weekend for every knee and. Track athlete. Long, yes, it is. And she was. Welcome US ship with her before her dance. And you know to this day and that was. That was ten years ago I. Thank her from. Allowing US just to be part of it so. It touch makes so. Thank you for bringing that up. That's very cool Rico. Look, I, look at it this way. My wife always says this. If we agreed all the time, she'd be worried about both of us so. Thanks Rico. Have Great. All right take care I like when people agree. I like much more would disagree because I like I always say I like to show my work. I don't plan the show all. I always say I don't play in the show all day, so I can be wrong. If challenged, I'd like to explain why I've come to. The conclusion I've reached and is Kelly, always says man. The people agree with you all the time. He both have problems. Brought me at UC Chris. All of us have have problems. Because you see Chris would say he agrees with me most of the time, not all time Miami's Berg. We go. My son was hanging out of Miami's Berg with Ryan and friends over the weekend. Miami's Bird Bury your on seven hundred WWL W. Even have gone very well. Thanks for calling. Yeah Something that came up at my GRANDPA's, funeral. Not Quite twenty years ago. My cousin and I both had similar memories. Of writing down to the reds at. Riverfront stadium with GRANDPA who had season tickets? And then writing back home in the back of his station wagon, listening to Marty and It doesn't get any better than that. You know that long dry from Cincinnati to Dayton. On Sunday five, which back then was too lame river, a red tail lights in front of you, yeah! You get to hear star of the game where bag out here at Riverfront stadium where the reds have beaten the phillies and Dave concepcion at three hits and data will be our guest when we come back. Oh love that the first game I remember seeing. Tony Perez hit a home. Run up into the cheap seats. And that ball did not curb it with a straight line. Stadium had not gotten in the way. It probably would have gone into orbit. Love it. To of the. Nice well. This was a perfect capita. The conversation I really appreciate you. Listening and thanks for the call tonight y'all have knighthood you as well all right that worked out well, I I like to do every year on a Friday night leading into the weekend but I didn't want to lose it tonight and You made it work, so thank you for sharing the Sherman the stories by the way speaking of stories Wednesday. Night I, have this plotted out Wednesday night is the anniversary of. The final game at Crossley field. Now I. Was it Crossley when I was? I'd like three or four years old. I have no memory of being at Grozny field at some point on Wednesday night will follow reds hot stove at seven. Maybe in the Eight o'clock hour we will I will seek your tales and memories of Crossley. Field I've lived through my dad's tales across the over the years I would love to hear yours mark that on your calendar for Wednesday on the anniversary of the final game at cross field. I gotta get this was fun. This was This whole show was turned upside down I got to like a third of the things we originally going to. To talk about, but let me say this I am Dan happy to be back tonight. I love doing this show. I very much enjoyed my vacation, but truth be told I really love doing this show great to see chip on the other side as well. Thanks for hanging out with me. Let's do it tomorrow night from six to nine Gary Jeff. Walker serves up the nightcap after we check news home of the ranch, seven hundred WWL W.

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Collusion Concerns

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Collusion Concerns

"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then. Zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash outside the union. Believe there have been collusive efforts. They do have to take a look at this. Make sure that whatever's happening right now protects the most players populace gave him an opening and now someone is going to run with it and it may cost says the larger issue here regarding minority hiring and opportunity teams jeans that are really genuinely want process. There's just not this pool of candidates in those traditional spots cold from conduct that kind of hiring hiring pulled in the driveway as what material as our breaking it against one town has gone through. What this town ass wide is a game still matter because paradise is a football town it Welcome to outside the lines. I'm Tissue Thomson Today. We're talking about the lack of color among the NFL's top decision makers and this stunning running performance of a high school football team that literally lost everything except the turf they play on but first our big story it was this time last week. Washington nationals. Were celebrating their first world series winning club history but while the nets were showing off their shiny new trophy the rest of MLB was plotting out which players. Here's they WANNA snatch up in free agency the likely top three free agents all appeared in the world series nationals Third Baseman Anthony Rin. Don't in Pitcher Stephen Even Strasburg as well as Houston Astros Pitcher Garrett Cole but there are rules about how much a team can talk to another team about potential trades and on Monday Atlanta braves general manager. Alex topless made a controversial comment during a conference call with the media every day. You get more information he said and we've had time connect with twenty seven of the clubs. Obviously the Astros and the nationals being in the world series they were tied up but we had a chance to get a sense of what the other clubs are going to look to do free agency who might be available in traits last night. MLB Players Association Executive Director. Tony Clark put out a statement. Alleging teams may have engaged in collusion. The statements made by braves. GM Alex Anthopoulos call into question. The integrity of the entire free agent system clerk. Clark wrote that clear description of club. Coordination is egregious and we've launched an immediate investigation looking into the matter joining. CBS now is the Guru of all things baseball ESPN MLB insider. Jeff Passan Jeff. Thank you first of all for being here. I think the first question for folks who don't follow free agency as closely as you do is. What are the rules about what teams can and cannot say to each other right now? Well there's no explicit rule saying you can say this you can say that you can say one thing you can say another. There is however in the collective bargaining agreement article twenty section e number one in the last sentence that says player shall not act in concert with other players and clubs shall not act in concert with other clubs and what that essentially means is. You cannot collude. Now that is a broadly interpretive statement and whatever and arbitration panel if this ever reaches a grievance is what the actual actual answer to. This question is and what the Union did yesterday by saying out loud and quite vociferously that. MLB teams are essentially coordinating with one. Another was alleging publicly which they do not do that. They are breaking this by law. Aw in the collective bargaining agreement so what was it in Anthopoulos his statement specifically that alarm the Players Association. What was the words that he used that they were concerned concerned about? The problem was that they were that he used the words free agency and he used them. If you go back and look at the whole context text the quote. He used them these v the trade market now next week. The general manager's meetings are happening in Scottsdale and in preparation for the general managers meetings every year. If you are a good and worthwhile general manager you call your counterparts and try to get a sense of what their off-season free agent plans and trade plans are going to look like so you can see who you might be able to match up with and might be able to talk with without wasting your time now. During the course of these conversations tissue and I will say these conversations in these types of conversations have have been going on for decades. Now you may say hey. I need a third baseman if I can't trade for third Baseman I'M GONNA go after one in free agency see what the MLB PA is saying is that that is not okay and this is something that's going to be really difficult to argue but at the same time the union is looking for anything in this burgeoning war that it has with Major League Baseball. So how does an investigation. Jason like this actually take place. Can it hold up free agency. Yeah I don't know that it's going to hold up free agency and that's an important point here here because all of this goes back tissue to free agency. Free Agency has not been the same over the last three years since the most recent collective bargaining agreement admit that it was in the past and because of that the union is looking to find somewhere to fight. It's looking to find somewhere to plant it's flag and say we're doing the work for the players now. The work in the investigation is going to mean asking Major League Baseball for evidence for discovery. And so you know we're not sure if mlb going to comply with these things it could send documents over. It might say no. This is all an overreach. This is all entirely unnecessary this area. And if that's the case then the union would file a grievance looking for documents so this is just the beginning of something that is going to be lasting for quite a wile. I think I mean the collective bargaining agreements not up until the twenty twenty one season This is a war that's just started. Well Jeff thank you so much for making time for us. Because I know you're busy trying to figure out what's going on behind the scenes appreciate it. Thanks to ship. Every year. The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in sports at the University of Central Florida puts out a racial engender report card and this year the results for the NFL or dramatic. The league had a fifteen year low for the number. We're of people of color holding the most important jobs. The report noted eight of the thirty two. NFL head coaches at the start of last season. Where people of color a quarter of the available jobs this season there are only four with just one new hire and among those doing the hiring as recently as twenty fourteen twenty four percent of NFL general general managers or directors of player personnel? Were people of Color. That number has plummeted to just to Doug Williams senior VP of player personnel for Washington. And Chris Greer the general manager of the Miami Dolphins joining us now from Washington. DC Rod graves a longtime football exact. Who recently really became the executive director of the Fritz Pollard? Alliance a nonprofit dedicated to promoting better diversity in the NFL Rod. Thank you so much for joining us. The big question is what was your initial reaction when you saw this report. Well first of all Tisch. Thanks for having me on. My initial reaction is supports the fact that those of us who follow these types of reports have believed all the time that gains aren't sustainable ainable unless you have racial and gender diversity in the C. Suite. You have to have people there who are very committed and interested and intentional tunnel about diversity and that to me is where the numbers are lacking and hopefully we can focus on improving the numbers in that particular uh-huh area which finding in particular really stands out to you about this year's report. What number really spoke to you? Well well you know. Obviously the focus has been a great deal on Head coaches and GM and the slide that the NFL has taken over the last couple years with respect to those positions. But I also sense that. There's a lack of diversity strategy at the club level we've seen gains in the. NFL office is largely credited. Roger Goodell for keeping this issue in front of the owners honors the outstanding leadership provided by Troy Vincent and others at the League office. But I think the the the opportunities to really advanced diversity are in the hands of owners and that's where we're not seeing the commitment that needs to take place in order for diversity to really be sustainable so the NFL has what's called the Rooney rule which requires teams to interview people of Color for Head coaching and senior front office jobs. These are some of the lowest numbers we've seen since the advent of the Rooney rule in two thousand and three. So is the Rooney rule. Even working well let me address address that because I think that the expectations for the Rooney rule are misplaced to some degree. I remember a period of time. When people of color struggled to get to the interview table I think the Rooney rule has done a significant job and benefit in terms of at least ensuring that minority representation is is going to be had at the end of you table? The Rooney rule is not responsible for the results. The decision makers are but I applaud the NFL for for committing to a Rooney rule. And we see that the Rooney rule itself is is being adopted in other industries across corporate America effective it has great benefits not only for the employer but also all the employees and. I think that the Rooney rule is something that needs to Stan and vouch for its effectiveness Rod. I I can't thank you enough for making time for us. We really appreciate it. We know you there in DC fighting the fight so really appreciate you being here. But they lost their homes their cars nearly their entire town but they still had their field coming up. 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It was devastating it. It was just like as heartbreaking gets As you pull up into it it's it comes over here and it's very heavy when you see everything thing that your family has built and collected Trista pile of all twenty seven thousand residents of Paradise were displaced by the Campfire due to health. Health and safety concerns. No one was allowed to return to paradise in January when school resumed classes were held in Chico nineteen eighteen miles away enrollment. Once nearly one thousand students fell by more than half. Where are you going to school? Career warehouse next to the airport. It sounds crazy like I'm talking crazy. But that's really where our school is. And we're grateful for Lucas. Hartley began taking classes online online allowing him to work forty hours a week at an auto salvage yard to help this family pay rent on part four four months ago. I was just a high school kid to school every single day and now it's like after work a fulltime job uh take online classes and stuff because things are just different now one. What keeps you going football? I guess it's not too much you know for all that was lost on November eight th two thousand eighteen. One piece of paradise remained virtually untouched. Here we are at our stadium mm-hmm and it looks pretty normal. You could see some burning right over here. That hill fire went around over there. By the burn on the Trees Somehow Paradise High in its home field were intact the prospects for or a football season in twenty nine thousand nine. How do you describe them? We're going to have one. Why why does it matter? I want to make sure that the kids that come to our school have football program that they can be proud out of and so the boys from paradise would begin their honesty hoping to reach the new season. We have a waitress room the stuff. There isn't very very good but we still use it training in the warehouse and on a field outside Zayn. They started with just twenty two varsity players. This journey that we're going to go on. We're not going out there for no participation awards. Their goal to be able to play their opening game in paradise three weeks before we're opening night the team now forty strong on varsity gathered as camp concluded. There's been a lot of changes a lot of things going on. But we'RE GONNA ROCK DOC people and if we're a little bit angry about our situation all the better captain. Lucas hardly addressed team. I just wanted to say this. Has Been like super heartbreaking for me because last year I thought after the fire and everything that it was going to be the last season played for Paradise I and believe it or not. Aw made me so happy to not had an opportunity to come out here and play with you guys Nine month's two weeks and one day. After their season was ended by the Campfire the boys from paradise returned to their field to that patch of soil. They call home. They played for more than a win. They wait for a chance to show the five thousand in attendance. What had risen from the ashes Harley number twenty before say you don't miss something till it's gone and then you miss like how I I love that community with everything. The town has gone through what this town is. Why does it gain still matter because paradise is a football town years would? Would I pray for you tonight that you started a healing. That's going to continue through the rest of the season. Doggone it you guys you've been through so much. This feels great and despite all the obstacles. The Bob Cats went undefeated. This season Jeremy Shat just caught up with Paradise Paradise head coach Rick Prince with everything. That's happened in the last few weeks. Rick you just completed perfect regular season. Ten Ino- you've got the playoffs coming up next week. What was it like as the season progressed from the beginning when you guys came together up to this point now one of the best things was how pulled our community together? Our first game ten weeks ago we had almost six thousand people that are game and right now in paradise there's less than two thousand residents so we just continued to build on. That just took one game at a time because because we're not in a league. We knew we had to go undefeated just to make the playoffs and the kids did it. I'm very proud of under so So much going on in their lives outside the football that to have them on the field and focus like this was amazing. And I'm very proud of him. I think it's fifteen years since your last undefeated regular season sooner or paradise is last undefeated regular season. You mentioned the resiliency of your group of kids those players. What does it say about them that they they perform form the way they did this season? So far there's only three of our players. It live in paradise. The rest of them are travelling at least thirty minutes minutes to get here so every day. They're they're traveling to school. figure out how they're gonNA eat and then they gotta do school and then we have a three hour practice so the demand a and they're great but you can see it in their eyes when they hit the field. It's all about football. And they're serious about their commitment to their teammates and to making Mrs Successful Year challenging. Of course not only for them but for you is well what were some of those challenges. Mine mine home did not burn down. So I'm wondering if you that it didn't happen too but it still took me eight months to get back into the house just being displaced next for that long was top personally but I just kept thinking. How so many more had it worse? And then to the rebuild. The team we started with twenty twenty two players last semester and then as we started in the summer kids just kept coming back and right now. Our school has under three hundred boys. He's an almost one hundred football players. What you have achieved this season has been so inspiring to so many people not just those has devastated by the fires around Paradise but elsewhere? What was it like for your team and for yourself last few weeks as we saw so many other wildfires wildfires breaking out in California? I just think these kids have been through settlement hutch that when something else comes into their lives they just about had it a lot of kids deal with in different ways some are emotional about it some just bury it and try not to think about it. So that's one positive thing that football is brought for them. One Kid said I wanNA forget all about what's going on and just let me practice but our hearts go out to all those fires. We certainly understand what they're going through. What's IT GONNA be like as you guys head to the playoffs? And there's even more at stake winner go home so we have to play our best right now at the end here but I know that will compete with whoever we play in the playoffs. You've seen that kind of character obviously from your team from your players this past season. I've seen a real hunger. You're the real desire to prove themselves and honestly a little bit anger just some built up built up tension that they bad because of all this it is difficult. It is difficult for them to beat here and we ask a lot of them and they have come through. Their parents have come through and we've had tremendous community support. I'm just so proud of him for being as tough as they are about it. Rick thank you for your time and good luck in the playoffs. Thanks for having me for much more on the journey of coach Princess Team Checkout Essex Useful Feature Presentation Paradise from the ashes on on. ESPN plus. We'll be right back. 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Episode Fifty-Two: MLB Current Events (Brad Flies Solo)

Baseball Together Podcast

24:35 min | 1 year ago

Episode Fifty-Two: MLB Current Events (Brad Flies Solo)

"They. Nine plus presents the baseball together podcast with your hosts, blackjack Brad and Kansas City little big, breaking Blue Eyes, and now baseball together. Welcome to this week's episode of the Baseball Team Their podcasts baseball family I am Brad and I am flying so low this week. We're going to do a little bit of an experiment here. Okay, so bear with me I had brig take the week off. He's he's tending to. Some family matters right now. for those of you don't know spoken to Brag about this. We've kind of come up with this together about how we'd like to present this his first. For anyone who doesn't know. His wife has been battling. Hodgkin's lymphoma for a while now. If, you'd like updates. And find ways you can help. There is a link to tiffs carrying bridge site in the do do so you can follow that and break posts updates to her status. Their one way we have been supporting tiff as you'll notice. Here is with the Hashtag Rally for the number. Four rally, four tiff on all social media post a picture of yourself wearing rally cap I've got the stat going today and use Hashtag Rally for tiff. That's one way with that. We've been showing our support for both break antef K.. anyways. Ways you can get in touch with the show. Let's go through it. You can join our VIP. Our facebook group. It's nine plus VIP search nine plus us, and it'll come up if you're not a member already. Go ahead and send US request. We will add you to the group. There's great conversation right now. One of our members Jason Douglas Dino is doing. It's caused a lot of debate, but it's A. It's a bracket for the most overrated player ever so as you. You can imagine there's been some debate as to some of the players that have been named there I will give a disclaimer for him in his in his favor he. He didn't do any filtering anybody who was submitted on the group. went into the bracket, so you will see Mike Trout and to my dismay Ken griffey junior isn't a bracket as well so. Hop On there you can, you can vote in the bracken it's. It's a whole lot of fun. Good good fun conversation going on there. You can also submit to the MAILBAG. There's a link and the dooby Doo for every single episode free to be able to submit to our mailbag. Submit questions, comments anything you want us to talk about. Any kind of topics you'd like to hear about snide remarks. Whatever Senate our way. We love it all of it, and you can also follow us on Instagram at baseball together or twitter at baseball, the number to gather that's baseball to gather on twitter. All right so. Let's get into this here we go. We've got some stuff that's been going on. You know I almost I almost just took the week off without Brig, but then I thought man. You know there's just there's too much too much going on between the players and the owners right now, It's holding up getting this season started for me to for me to skip so when it had decided to fly share some of my thoughts with you guys on some of these things that are going on right now so first. Baseball's. On off again couple. Is Back at it again. Alex Rodriguez Jennifer Lopez are back trying to buy the mets once again. It's too funny to me that they're back. Backtrack and do this again they're. They're getting with J. P. Morgan Chase trying to get a billionaire to be the primary investor I read that they are. Throwing in hundreds of millions of their own dollars to to try to get the stomach, because they really wanna by the mets. The wilpon 's. They're asking one point two billion. Sorry. I know that's what Forbes valued. The team at Forbes valued the teen valued the team at one point, two billion and believe the wilpon are asking more than that however. It's. The wilpon also own s NY, right. That's GONNA. Watch Knicks Games and things like that and obviously mets games S. NY, is profitable right TV networks are typically property profitable, especially established ones like that, but the problem they have is the mets. Don't seem to be profitable if I I believe I, read that. They lost forty million dollars last year, and with everything coming up with the with the Kobe nineteen pandemic. They're set to lose even more on the mets, so it seems like the bill really want to get out Iran Jaylo might be able to get in at a discount, which is what they are initially looking for earlier with their previous investor that they really wanted to get the team at a at a discounted rate and You know Wilpon. Get desperate enough to sell that team. They might be able to keep your eye on that. We might have a rod sitting in an owner's boxer. Whenever we have baseball again probably not this year maybe next year. If So! Watch for that. So. Let's get to the stuff that happened this week. Well. Given everything like I mentioned with the. With the Corona Virus Cove nineteen pandemic. owners are feeling like they're a little little strapped for cash right now. The possibility I mean that's obviously going to be short and season. Worse case scenario no season at all, so owners are feeling like they've got. They've got to pinch pennies here and there and save. So what they've done is this week. A bunch of teams went through and cut a ton of minor leaguers. because of this David price with the dodgers said that he's going to. Give one thousand dollars to each player in the dodgers organization WHO's not on the forty man roster. He's GonNa give each player in the minor league system, thousand dollars of his own money in June to help them get by which is actually a little bit less than what they beginning from the team, but it's better than nothing because those teams, a lot of teams of after may thirty first. You know as as of today June first. They're not going to be paying those those players. So David Price is kicking in thousand dollars of his own money. There's about two hundred players in the minor league system who are not going to be on on the forty man roster so two hundred thousand dollars on money. That's pretty good, but there are eight teams eight teams who have said they will be paying players through the rest of what would be the minor league season, so because of the history of roster expansions in September. The minor league season is typically over. End Of August Ish beginning of September. So. These teams have said they're going to be paying their players through the end of August, through what would normally be the minor league season? You've got the Minnesota twins Kansas City royals Seattle Mariners. MIAMI. Marlins San Diego padres. Cincinnati reds, the Houston Astros and Those teams are actually not making any cuts. They're not cutting any minor leaguers. Saying we'll keep you on our in our system and we'll pay you through the end of the minor league system just as if you were playing normally. Now the Boston Red Sox cut twenty two players last week, but they'll continue to pay the rest of their minor league system. Through the season through the end of August so. Kind of a little bit of a double edged sword there at the Red Sox of Bummer, they cut all those guys, but at the same time is good that they're playing paying the guys that they kept around, so there are a couple things with this. I understand if you're not because it doesn't look like there's going to be a minor league season I I think that's why teams did this, they're. They're Kinda bagging the minor league season, and then they'll come back and fill out the rosters next year as needed depending on what kind of season they have. We've talked before that this year. If there was a minor league season, it might only be from like. Advance day up or short season a UP There wasn't going to be you. Know Arizona Dominican Summer League or advanced rookie that we're going to start a short season a, but as any of that's going to happen next year, though I mean the season is going to be impacted next season most likely and we could be seeing. Possibly that kind of format, so these teams won't have to go through and fill out the rosters as much but again. That's just speculation I'm not entirely sure how that's GonNa work, but the overall effect of this is you. Look at these teams who have kept? Everybody. They're paying everybody. Through the end of August, they didn't make any cuts. You've got the twins. The they signed some agents mostly. They built their farm system. The royals won world series with their farm system. The mariners are relying relying heavily on the farm system for the future, so they don't want to break any trust anybody in that in that system because they're planning on those guys being the ones who take them to the promised land eventually The marlins at believe Derek. JETER is building to the farm system right now. The San Diego padres. Manny Machado claimed that quote unquote. The farm system was why he went to San Diego in the first place. You got the reds who? Have guys here and there, but they're so strapped for cash with joy bottles contract. They can have to keep minor leaguers around, and then you've got the Astros That's how they WANNA world series. They won the world. Series. By building through their their farm system, being on trash cans, so these teams rely heavily on their farm system. So that's why they're not cutting anybody everybody else you know. There are a lot of teams like the dodgers who build through free agents because they can attract him, you know. Why would I keep a bunch of? Brig. Pass sparring partners around for guys if I if we don't need them to build a successful team. So, it's interesting to see the philosophy of different teams as they cut players as they decide not to pay them or to pay them, so keep an eye on the teams that you see who are willing to keep guys around because that seems to be kind of the trend. That I've noticed. All Right Here comes the real meat of at all. What we've got is proposals going back and forth between MLB and the players the players association. MLB sent over well. Let's start with this I. Weighed back in March when play stopped. MLB and the Players Association agreed on pro rated salaries. Whatever percentage of the season was paid played. That's the percentage of their full salary Gaza be getting paid for the for the course of the entire season. Now. MLB has sent a new proposal. To players and Not so good! They've said okay. Let's take that prorated salary. Say AAH they, they propose eighty two games, which is a like a hair over fifty percent of the season right, because one hundred six games eighty one, and then they proposed eighty two for an even number. Well. The problem that we're having now is that owners are wanting to. Basically pay guys based on a sliding scale based on what they make you know they want to. They want to take down guys so you. It's kind of confusing I've got a tweet here from from Jeff. Passan where he broke it down. Really easily case, so let me go through this. The guys who are getting the most of the contract obviously are going to be the The League minimum guys okay, so the League minimum is five, hundred, sixty, three thousand. Five hundred dollars that was going to be the League minimum this year and And so if players are paying playing fifty percent of the of the regular season that's going to take that down to about two hundred and eighty, one eighty two thousand dollars, and then they wanna cut down from there to pay them ninety percent of that. Okay, so you've got the league minimum guys making two hundred and sixty thousand dollars a seat on the season that is less than fifty percent of what they were going to be getting this season. And then it goes all the way up, and so you've got Mike. Trout, who's who is GONNA make about thirty seven million dollars a season and it ends up with him on the sliding schedule. He was sliding scale. Sorry. He was going to make only five million dollars of that this season, whereas with the pro rated at a fifty percent season a half a season, you know thirty seven million dollars half of that that's eighteen and a half million dollars. He would have made so he's losing an additional thirteen million dollars and I understand you know for the average fans like yeah, okay, that's astronomical amounts of money. But at the same time. The way that I see. Is that these owners. They signed these. They offered these players these contracts they agreed to these contracts and they said. You know we play so many games as what you'll make. If you put fifty percent of the Games, you make eighteen and a half million dollars on the season so. For them to try to submit sliding scale. It's pretty obvious. I actually saw Trevor Bauer and his agent Rachel Luebbe, talking about this the other day and I and is this is the exact same thing that I thought when I saw it is they're trying to. Put dissension in the ranks among the players because the the league minimum guys like we gotta get paid I've gotta make my money this year. Yell take pretty much fifty percent of that. You know basically forty to forty five percent of what what I was going to be making for half the season. Absolutely, but then you've got you know the delete the elite players. Players the very top of the food chain. Who are going to be like absolutely not you know so while they're trying to do is. They're trying to get those those players kind of butting heads on that, but it doesn't seem like that's happening. It seems like everybody is banded together and said No. We will not agree. Agree to this because it's regis and. I totally agree with them that. The owners they can't. They can't submit something like that and. Tony Clark. who was the president of the MLB Players Association. Has said that they're going to submit a counter offer okay. They're going to submit something that says you know instead of eighty two games. We one hundred games, because not only does that mean more money for the players that means more revenue for the owners potentially based on. On TV rights right the more games on TV the more money you bring in. I'll get into that in a little bit some kind of some ideas that MLB should she take from the Cabo. But. It's. It's so frustrating to watch it, you know. That the the owners and the players are already butting heads so so harshly over this when. Baseball has an excellent opportunity to come back to be the only team sport. It's like just go out there and play. The money will sort itself out because. I, mean going going back to the K B. O, what they've done is yeah. They don't have any fans of their stands either they've. They've sold advertising space in the outfield seats. They have banners across some of those seats. And if Major League baseball were to do that, I'm not saying it would make up the difference, but if they charged. A premium for those because you're gonNA, see him. You see him throughout the broadcast. It would it would help you know definitely help with the cost. so I don't. I don't understand why. The owners are digging in so deep because. Rub Manfred our good buddy rob has said that a loss season's going to cost major league baseball and the owners four billion with a capital B four billion dollars. Every game with no fans means six hundred and forty thousand. Dollars Lost Revenue K.. That seems like a no brainer to me I mean. Let's do some quick math here. Let's see. A So, if you have six hundred and forty thousand dollars. Times at by eighty two. That's. About five million dollars. Five and a half. My math is right. Manabe carrying the one but either way. Seems like a no brainer. Go ahead, come back. Let sort itself out financially, because not only taken a financial hit this year. You're going to take a financial hit in the future because if you're squabbling over over money like this like say like. Notoriously poor owners in the league is the owner of the athletics game, and let's say I. Believe I WanNa see. He's worth around two billion dollars or the as are. Okay. Now if you have. If you have a team like that like I, said. I mean they made a movie about how not necessarily cheap or poor, but like cheap. How cheap the owner is for the for the as. You have. Two Billion Dollars Game. You can hear me. Click clicking all those years on their for billions. And then you have a guy making the league minimum, or you could even go to Mike Trout Mike. Trout's making thirty seven million dollars a year, okay? Let's go like that thirty minute thirty, seven million. Is Only if I can click the right buttons. It's only one point eight percent, one point, nine percent two billion, so. How about this? You have. A dollar. And somebody says hey. Can spare some change. Yeah, keep them to pennies. That's all that is i. mean come on now. It's not that much. Based on what he's worth end and these owners. This isn't their primary source of income. These teams aren't so. For them to say like we're losing money like well. A lot of you're losing money anyway. So. I understand it's a big chunk now than it was before, but. I don't know it's almost like the owners are banding together. like the players are, but there's the players are banning together for. Their financial success in the future and the owners are banding together to help the bigger markets, because not having a season is actually going, and really the sliding scale is helping the bigger markets you've got. You've got New York with the big payroll. You've got the dodgers with a pretty big payroll. They've got a couple of big contracts on their, you know. And by having this sliding scale, it helps them out by not paying those guys so much. You know like you've got the Seattle Mariners who I always go back to Seattle marriage, because I'm such a big mariners fan I pay attention to what stuff that they do. But. They don't have a massive payroll. Got You know they've got? You say Kukuchi who is. Fifteen million dollars this year, but Who else you know, cal segers make money. It's. It just doesn't make sense to me that. That these owners are trying to stiff these players so much I mean. One thing to me is. Are they trying to not have a season this year. You know like. Are they are they positioning? Themselves are both sides trying to position for the CBA trying to position? there. I mean are they digging in posturing for negotiating when with the CB because see because that expires the end of the twenty twenty one season. Is this what? It's GonNa look like the end of the twenty twenty one season. It's going to feel like there won't be baseball on twenty twenty. Two sure feels like we're not gonNA have baseball this year. To me unfortunately. I mean obviously I would love it if there was but I mean fans are no fans in the I just WanNa. Watch baseball on TV. That's really what it comes down to. you know I like watching the Keough, but? It'll be that much better product and I. I want have it, you know. And I'm sure we all do so. It's frustrating to watch this and see the potential. What could happen in the future with with the? CBA, that these to these two sides obviously do not like each other, it's clear that the MLB EPA does not like rob Manfred and they're not willing to. They're not willing to give when it comes to anything that he's. The. He's bringing to them from the owners because. There's there's an obvious lack of respect there, and it's. It's frustrating to watch as a fan because you know like they always say billionaires, arguing with millionaires and ninety nine percent of us can't relate to it. So it's it's frustrating to watch and we and we just WanNa Watch baseball that. You know you've heard former players. Tom Glavin Chipper Jones saying you know that that fans are really not going to be very happy if the season doesn't happen, because players can't agree on a pay scale based on what the owners. Are? Proposing and I agree fans are not going to be very happy at all I mean. We lost the rest of the second half of the ninety four season. Because of her striking, there have been fans. You still have not come back because of that we. Major League Baseball could lose a group of fans because. They didn't take the opportunity that they had to come back and play during the coronavirus pandemic, and yes, there are certain risks. The players are not willing to take understand that there's certain risks financially. The owners are not going to be able to take or not going to be willing to take, but I've said it before. The owning a baseball team is not an investment. It's a toy. Tackling invest because it always appreciates, but at the same time it's more of a toy, then anything that. When you when you buy a boat, what does it say about stands for about another thousand? Right, you're putting money into a baseball team and there is a chance you might not get that money back. Yes, your team's going to appreciate but at the same time. As the road goes, you're going to lose money on it and. For these owners to treat this like it's this baseball team is my livelihood. You know even even the steinbrenners. The Yankees are not their livelihood. George Steinbrenner made his money as. The owner of shipping company. And then he bought the Yankees and. I mean that's the one team that I was like. Where did they get their money, you know. Yes. The steinbrenners are independent, well independently wealthy enough that they don't need to rely on the money that Yankees bring in every team. Is that way? I don't think the owners need to feel like. They need to pinch pennies they they need to pencil on this. Because eventually, like I, said a wrap up with this. If you put the product on the field. It's the only product out there for anybody to take in as far as teams board skill. The money will come. The money will come not this year because there are going to be obvious losses with with no fans in the stadiums. But. More is on the game. This year means more on the game next year and the next year and the next year you could grow a whole new generation of baseball fans by playing baseball this summer and this fall. And they've got to get. It figured out. They've got to get. It figured out. It's frustrating so frustrating all right anyway. This nice, short and sweet because I'm. You don't WanNa. Listen to me. Ramble on about the frustration of MLB. Negotiations. Don't forget to stop by the shop as you can see, I've got three nine plus hats at shop nine plus s dot, com. Her Shop Dot, nine plus dot com, sorry, or you can spell it out and I any PL. Dot Com. gives us Matt's I've got my corona pirate shirt on tonight and don't forget to Hashtag Rally for tiff. Posted on your social media with a rally cap with love. Stop by baseball together DOT COM, you can watch podcasts. You listen to podcasts all that fun stuff and like subscriber. Rate Review us. 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June 24, Hr 1  Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

32:36 min | 1 year ago

June 24, Hr 1 Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich

"This is mornings with Gail fueled by Great Western petroleum only thirteen ten KFI. Breast lawlessness destruction calls to fund the if not outright disband police continue to sweep the nation, wearing a precarious moment in history. Some might indeed call it. The danger zone in which strong leadership is tantamount to our nation's future, six, hundred, seven, now thirteen, ten K., k. a thirteen ten KFI K. A. dot com mornings with Gail fueled by Great Western Petroleum Newt Gingrich is a former speaker of the House of Representatives, hosts of the Newt's world podcast at Gingrich three sixty dot com, and the other of forty books, including his newest trump, and the American future, solving the great problems of our time. Mr Speaker welcome to the show. Great to be with you. Hope. You're having a great day out there. Certainly are and hope you are as well now in your book. You say that this election represents the most decisive choice Americans will make since eighteen sixty, which of course was the election of President Abraham Lincoln and ultimately led to the civil war. Why is this presidential election as pivotal as that one? Well! I think if you look at the. Team of. Pelosi, Schumer and Biden the values they represent, and the allies they have. And then you look at the trump and McConnell. And McCarthy? was just almost two totally different Americas. And I. think that's what that's what the struggle is all about. That's why it's so painful and so intense why you have Nancy Pelosi, saying things that are so vividly hateful Because you know the stakes are that high and. On the one hand. Minor example. Thirteen Biden's presidential campaign staff gave money to. Minneapolis to bail out looters and rioters. Members of the trump campaign staff gave money to help rebuild the business of retired. African American would. After, he was done you permitted opened a small store. They got burned out by the very looters and rioters that Biden's people were bailing out. target gets broader trump you know lower taxes and lower regulations, and had gotten us to the lowest black unemployment number in history. The lowest Patino unemployment. Biden with with enclosed. Would raise taxes increase regulations dramatically the bureaucracy in Washington and basically turn the whole country into California, Of California, plus Seattle. Sort of the world that Biden employees and Schumer would create. Yeah so much for the summer of love as the mayor referred to chop, had another shooting there over the weekend and finally The mayor is seeing the light and calling to disband chop. The lawlessness that we are seeing across country in the silence, essentially that we're hearing from the mainstream media, and the Democrats well, it's beyond disturbing. When you have to understand that the Democrats, mayors take take Chicago, which had a hundred and five people shot over the weekend. Luckily, most of them were killed, but still one hundred and five hundred shot in Chicago. this weekend two weeks ago, that eighteen people killed on Sunday, and what was the bloodiest? Sunday since nineteen fifty in Chicago well, the Democrats the mayor's Office for eighty nine years since nineteen thirty one. Now. Do we think that it's Donald Trump's fault that they have not solved the problems in south side? We think that maybe the values and the structure of the Union. Organization and the bureaucracy of the Democratic Party doesn't work. and. That's true in Baltimore which Hansi Pelosi's father and her brother were both mayors Baltimore. Last Republican mayor was fifty six years ago. They have they have a school system, which is the fourth most expensive in the country and then haven't tired school buildings in which not a single student could pass the state exam, not one. Now. Is that because the the Democrats on the school board and the Union. Item? Refused to modernize me. People talk about it and I. Think you're right. Yeah, change. The police contracts of the police shootings so that you can get rid of bad apples things to in schools, these big government so systems. Find it almost impossible to get rid of bad teachers, and that's just a fact. So I that the. Values and ideas have consequences they if you listen to them, talk. They actually believed that the world's benign and if the police weren't there things better and I think that being a painful lesson from Seattle to Minneapolis to Chicago new. York that, in fact, if you pull police out, there are bad people out there. They're eager and ready. To come in to make your life miserable. Six twelve now thirteen ten K of K AMMO earnings. Gail fueled by Great Western petroleum joined by Newt Gingrich former speaker of the US House of Representatives. Host of the Newt Newt's world podcast AT GINGRICH THREE SIXTY DOT COM author forty bucks his newest trump and the American future solving the problems of our time I. Know Our time. This morning is very limited because boy. I could go all morning so many questions for you serve. Let's talk a little bit from George Washington to you. To Ulysses s grant we are seeing. Statues and monuments vandalized across the nation. My question for you. How does destroying statues to filing public property and mob rule create any pathway whatsoever to meaningful change for our future. The people who are doing this hate America. But hate every evidence. Of America they lie about the nature of American they take great joy, look one when mobs get out of control when the leaders had no longer have the courage to control the mob. The mob gets gets more and more and more extreme you now the guy going around saying that every every statue or painting of Christ that shows him as being white should be destroyed. Now in is natural evolution of people who hate America. And they all get together to look at each other, and they're happy and they think. Isn't this wonderful? You know we represent the true faith. Now I have no idea what they think the truth is. But you have the same young I'm always intrigued. You Have A. Him in Congress from Minneapolis Somalian. Well Sh. She knows the Minneapolis is like a hundred times better in Mogadishu. In terms of quality of life. In income freedom. Safety. Treatment of women yet. Angry at Minneapolis. She's not grateful for being an American. She's not glad that she's allowed to join the society of freedom and pursuit of happiness instead she she brings her anger with her. And It's just part of the same pattern here. And of course, the other thing is after three generations, both of brainwashing students. Many of them don't know anything. They have no idea who general grant was what his role was abolishing slavery. there just ain't. Angry ignorant people who out of control and who feel really good about it. It's like the French Revolution or the Russian revolution or mouse cultural relaunch. Very similar patterns historian. Well elections have consequences, and I can only hope that most of America those that do vote are seeing through all of this as it's just another way to disrupt the nation. Tried, thank of an exactly and that's why I wrote the book on trump emergency. The attributed I do think this is probably the most important election hundred sixty years. and. It's really gonNA matter decides to vote and who decides who decides to stand up and argue just just have the courage to say. NOPE, it's wrong to destroy scratchings period. Newt Gingrich former speaker of the US House of Representatives host of the Newt's world podcast at Gingrich, three sixty DOT COM author of forty bucks, and please keep being so prolific speaker Gingrich and his newest trump, and the American futures solving the great problems of our time. And where can we find your book? Invited folks anywhere certainly a gingrich three sixty, but also Amazon Barnes and noble any local bookstore. It's been very widely distributed where the publisher. Thank you so much for your time particularly for your insights perspectives. Sixteen thirteen ten Kfi K., the whole sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI. Kevin Tara fact is at the movies here. Don't forget to listen to my show every Saturday on KFTA now back to mornings with gay. Fascinating conversation this morning I'll be rather short with the former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich talking about that faction of America. That seemingly hates this nation. He wasn't timid about his comments when it came to the Democrats and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi saying effectively that. They are seizing this time of social unrest to create more unrest and more disruption in a nation already up ended by Covid nineteen and basically put through the ringer over the past four years. What with Russia Russia Russia and Ukraine and Oh covid nineteen and the list goes on and on seemingly trying to do everything that they can. To. Pit US against each other instead of uniting this nation. How do we turn that around your thoughts this morning? Nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten. Drop me a text on our thirteen ten K.. K, a text line. Three one, nine, nine six. You know I pulled an interesting piece that he had written on Gingrich. A three sixty dot com that I wanted to share with you just coming off our conversation. With former US speaker of the House Newt Gingrich headline kind of says it all speaker, Pelosi Lobs, and more let's refocus America on liberty and justice for all, because again that has been a common refrain that has been pulled out of the Democrat playbook for time immemorial, and that is divide and conquer identity politics again dividing US pitting us against each other in order to seize power and control, so here's what he had to say. He was talking with John Highbush. Brilliant educated dedicated executive director of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation Institute and we've had the pleasure of talking with Mr Bush as well well. Rights Former Speaker Gingrich, it was really driven home to me. What a dangerous period! We are living through I. Don't think he's lapsing into purgatory there to you. The Reagan Institute is one of the greatest institutions dedicated to preserving and teaching about the past. But it seems as though and he references this in his book. He talks about George Orwell. Okay, you remember that Pivotal Book Nineteen eighty-four. He talks about the memory hole. Do you remember that the memory hole is where I'm just paraphrasing here? The government takes anything that they find. Distasteful or not pandering to the current narrative and they just. Hide it away. They basically dispose of it and isn't that what we are seeing? As numerous monuments, statues are being toppled across the nation again. How destruction lead to anything more than destruction? Violence begets violence hate leads to hate, and are we seeing that as Nancy Pelosi is calling ironically enough for the removal of us some paintings and statues in Congress ironically I. Say because many of them are Democrats, but that's a conversation for another time, but. Back to Newt Gingrich's piece in a gingrich three sixty dot com. It's education program talking about the Reagan Institute for Young. People teaches them interactively by using real events in the Reagan presidency. Certainly, it's a genuine national set yet he goes on to say as he and Mr Bush talking about his new book trump and the American future solving the problem of our time. It hit me that the existence of this extraordinary library is potentially in payroll. Does it have target on these days in this rushed to power and control, even if destroys, the country is buck, sexton said. Well. That's fine as long as the Democrats are in charge of the pieces that are left as long as they have total control over everything that we do. What's next book burning? Says former. Speaker Gingrich the mobs, which are mindlessly wandering the streets of America, toppling statues and defacing monuments are reinforced by the academic mob which wants to cleanse libraries here. It is of butch that it deems in appropriate. and. It is the ignorance of the mob which allows its members to smear American heroes and destroy the memory of key personalities in the rise to freedom again a very very dangerous time in our history. One book banned by the academic mob is the adventures of huckleberry Finn. Published by Mark Twain. Eighteen eighty four. Why did they consider one of the greatest? If not be greatest of American novels, but of course the illiterate bigots of the left to store greatness out of ignorance and prejudice. The ignorant mob faces the Lincoln Memorial and the name of Supposedly Fighting Racism they routinely defame the president who fought a civil war, issued the emancipation proclamation and fought for the constitutional amendments which codified freedom for African Americans. So you, tell me what is all this outrage really all about? Is just power and control. At the peril of the future of this nation. Nine seven, now, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, Tan drop me a text on our thirteen ten K., k. a text line at three, one, nine, nine, six, six, thirty, now, thirteen ten KFI. Thirteen ten KFI am preps. Radio is northern Colorado's home for the best high school coverage the day's headlines podcast mornings with Gail and more and schedule upcoming sports broadcasts. Find them at thirteen ten KFI. K. A. DOT COM. Talk. Well, though the MLB Players Association and Major League Baseball Owners didn't have much success over the past three months talking baseball. The owners exerted authority and said Okay Fine. You're not going to agree to any semblance of season, so we're just GONNA. Do it our way. Six, thirty, eight, thirteen ten KFI thirteen ten K. of K., A., DOT com. Yeah, I'm taking advantage of their rights to say. We're going to play ball this year. Well, the details of what that looks like our well a little intense. In for a piece by Craig Calcaterra of NBC sports talking about. The fact that the official word that the twenty twenty baseball season is on. Some semblance thereof it came is welcome news to most of us, but as the details of the season trickled out, it did become abundantly clear that the season it's going to be a very different beast than anything professional sports as seen in the past, and not just because now there will not be fans in the stands. So what Craig endeavoured to do was to gather up. All of the rules wrinkles the challenges and oddities. Baseball will be facing in this short strange trip of a season upon which we're about to embark. Take a look at the schedule okay. This as Major League. Baseball announces a sixty game season for twenty twenty opening day will be July Twenty, third or twenty fourth. That's kind of still up in the air, so teams will be playing most games against their own division and a handful of Interleague Games against the corresponding division from the other league. Yeah, we're getting deep into the weeds here. There will be no scheduled doubleheaders. Limit the time spent in a ballpark on any given day, and no fans in the stands other not allowed to spit, either nope, no spitting. Postponements. Up as usual via double headers, there are as of yet. And this is subject to change. No specific schedules that are circulating now there are some reports piecemeal though they may be of rule changes including the runner on second base rule, other rule changes include the universal d. h., which has long been reported as part of the plan. As of now it will only apply the twenty twenty season pitchers will be batting again. In twenty twenty, one, assuming at least twenty twenty one is somewhat of a normal season. Season that could be renegotiated before next year. However, the League is also abandoning its new rule which would have allowed position players to pitch only in certain situation. It's now all hands on deck at any given time games that starts, but then are stopped due to rain before the fifth inning will no longer be considered washouts that don't count. They'll be considered suspended games that will be resumed at the point where they were stopped at a later date. We need to take notes, don't we? The purpose of this rule is to stop the practice of keeping people in the bar park for hours on end to make a game air quote official. Close air quote three data role relief pitchers implemented this share that will remain as planned although it may be relaxed in spring training. Let's move onto the rosters and transactions. Teams have been under a transaction freeze since March. Prohibiting Trades and signings that freeze ends Friday at noon, eastern time teams will carry thirty players on the active roster for the first two weeks of the season twenty eight for the two weeks after that before reducing twenty six for the rest of the way with no minor leagues, teams will be allowed to retain sixty players over all supposed to a forty man roster with those beyond the active roster set forth above existing on a taxi squad. Three players from the taxi squad can travel with the team to the game. One of the three must be a catcher. The injured list for pitchers was supposed to change to fifteen days from ten days. It will now remain remain at ten days. Trade deadline will be August thirty first. The active roster deadline for postseason eligibility is September fifteenth. But about equipment, well, hitters will now have to bring their own pine, Tar, rags, doughnuts, and other equipment with them to and from the on Deck Circle pitchers will now have to bring their own rosin bag to the mound and use their own personal baseball's for bullpens sessions, hitters who were at the plates and runners left on base. We'll have to go back to the dugout to get their caps, gloves and sunglasses when an inning ends rather than have someone. Run them out to them how they could keep the sauce straight. Baseball's used in batting. Practice can only be used for one day and one day only after which they will need to be cleaned and sanitized and not be reused for five days. What about personal personal habits and physical contact? Once again spitting is prohibited including sunflower seed shells. smokeless tobacco is prohibited, but chewing gum is allowed. And then we get into all of the covid nineteen testing, and this is pretty lengthy covered individuals, which refers to players, coaches staff, basically anyone who will be involved in baseball operations will submit a symptoms exposure questionnaire before arriving at spring training. Basically what I did during during my quarantine report covered, individuals will also undergo a temperature, check a cove, nineteen saliva or no swab test, and a blood test for antibodies before arriving at spring training after reporting covered in individuals, we'll have their temperature and symptoms checked at least twice a day. Anyone with temperature over one hundred point, four degrees can't enter the ballpark. The list goes on and on and on players, coaches, trainers, and others who have close physical contact with players. We'll have sublime attests every other day. Everyone else in and around ballparks and team operations will undergo testing multiple times per week. Results are supposed to come back in twenty four hours, and those who? Test positive obviously cannot have any contact with the team. They will be placed in a special sort of injured list called. The COVID nineteen related injured list I kid you not. It's right here, which does not have a time limit like the normal injured list. Players placed on that list. Do have a path to return specifically. They have to test negative twice. At least twenty four hours apart cannot have had a fever, and in at least seventy two hours must've taken an antibody test above all that Dr sign off and sign a sign off of a joint cove, nineteen committee created by the League, the Union must approve as well. What, about players at high risk. For, covid nineteen. They'll be identified. Teams will actually identify those players with high risk defined as people who, by virtue of their age and or medical history are at a materially higher risk of developing severe illness complications from covid nineteen exposure. Media media access to players will be limited suspected that video press conference as opposed to one on one or scrum interviews. We'll take place after gains, zoom and other forms of video chat will likely be used as well press. We'll be allowed in the stadiums. But won't be allowed to get near the players. There will be no visiting broadcast teams. The home broadcast video audio crew will provide a common feed to the visiting teams are San and will be required to be even. As far as where video sound is focused during the game for neutrality purposes, visiting broadcasters will call games. Only who've it's a lot to take in. And if we find it all pretty daunting. Imagine how it's going to be. For teams and players, but at least they will play ball. If they find the time with all the rules and regulations in twenty, twenty, six, forty, seven, now thirteen ten Kfi Kia. To UNC bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten, Kfi. While the whole sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the hall show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI. All Right, we've all gone a little stir crazy. Being cooped up as a result of all the restrictions relative to covid nineteen many wondering, can we actually get out and play? How about a summer vacation 653? Now Thirteen ten, Kfi a thirteen, ten KFI, A. dot com, where he's with Gail fueled by great, Western, petroleum, live and local via the auto collision Specialists Studios, so yeah summer has officially arrived summer actually began on the twentieth well, and after all of these stay at home and safer at home orders well, who isn't itching for vacation? Is it safe Some public health officials say not so fast this Asa Colorado, among other states, reopening restaurants and parks, while there is still that nasty, little virus from floating around. Yeah, there is still a global pandemic underway. Several regions across the nation are experiencing an uptick in cases of covid nineteen. But public health officials are now encouraging many of us especially, if you are one of those who is at risk for complications from covid nineteen to turn your summer vacation into stay. Haven't we stayed on long. This is because each time a person leaves their home. They risk exposure to and potentially further spreading of the corona virus that's according to a piece by Jessica Seaman in Denver Post and when one does go out to public experts say we should enjoy the outdoors and. A mayes our exposure or exposure to others. You buy a Dole Hawk and Assistant Professor Biostatistics and Epidemiology at the University of North. Texas, Health Science Center says we should probably just enjoy our vacation at home, not encouraging people to travel I if you are considering travel. Here's a a few things that you might want to consider. Pharaoh is now in what state officials call. A safer at home, and in the vast great outdoors phase of Covid, nineteen response, trying to keep it all straight meaning that we are encouraged to stay home or spend time outdoors, well ventilated place. The great outdoors is. From others now some. These restrictions of course do vary across the country and some in places like Houston. Public Health officials could soon implement more stay at home orders as those covid nineteen cases increase so best advice research abided by all orders in place at your travel destination and avoid going to locations, either in state or out of state, where indeed there are travel restrictions, public health experts recommend that we stay within our local communities, unless a going to an outdoor recreation spot, and even there you might WanNa consider areas where you can avoid large crowds, and where the risk of disease transmission is lower alright so. Trains planes are automobiles. Almost a travel pose risks for infection. Because well, they're enclosed environments with limited air circulation, however, going somewhere by car carries a lower risk of covid, nineteen transmission than flying or riding a train this, because if you're traveling by car, you're likely to be by yourself or with members of your household, whereas trains and planes. Yeah, well, they tend to be a little bit more crowded and could be potential carriers of the virus, being in proximity to other people for fifteen minutes or longer, and that's an important notes right there. That's an important distinction. Because well to the best of our knowledge, just a you know a fly by just a fleeting interactions with folks doesn't lead to heighten transmission, but even when traveling by car, there is a risk of disease exposure, which is why many public health officials are encouraging, short trips out summer vacation. Well, it goes to your risk. Reward cautioned six fifty, seven, thirteen ten KFI. All sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two thirteen ten Kfi K.. Frontline. Medical providers and don't forget to sign up to win that two hundred and fifty dollar gift card courtesy of Linda winter owner of accessories with a flair and hair in downtown Greeley. 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Hour 3 - Scott Lewis updates us on San Diego, Marty Roommate-gate, TV listings and Jim's joke

The Darren Smith Show

39:03 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3 - Scott Lewis updates us on San Diego, Marty Roommate-gate, TV listings and Jim's joke

"Does back soon. Am Radio Rain wants more. Now here's Darren. On xtra thirteen sixty. All right hour number three. It's extra thirteen sixty FM one of three three and the I heart radio APP. If you're just getting with us, or perhaps, you're on hold waiting to be introduced. You wonder what that was related to. We were talking earlier in the day about a city council. Special Meeting scheduled for this Friday I believe at ten o'clock in the morning. In, which it is expected that the city council will vote. On a plan to sell the mission valley land the qualcomm site if you will to sell it. To Santa Cruz. State University, which would then begin a process for us if timelines are to be believed. And San Diego State has said it's time line is to have a new functioning stadium ready for the twenty twenty two season, then sentimental, old sappy me started talking about while the countdowns on then for the end of S. CU stadium, and many would say good good riddance. Get rid of that sort that places terrible. But how many sports memories have been created in that building, and that's my only point. I think there's room for. Yes, it's we're ready I'm not suggesting that we keep it open a minute longer than we have to. But honestly that's Don coryell Dan fouts in junior, CEO and nineteen, ninety four season, and the return home from Pittsburgh and Garvey and Tony, and Trevor, and on and on, so you know there's a lot there. There's a lot there. There's a lot of holiday bowl memories. There I know it wasn't a positive one for a lot of San, Diego. State fans but Byu won a national championship winning holiday bowl in that building. Building Scotland was voiced. San Diego's probably like what did I get myself into? He has been joining us regularly throughout the pandemic. We appreciate his time Voice of San Diego doing outstanding work and Scott Lewis is the editor in chief. He joins US right now. An extra thirteen sixty Scott, Darren I hope you had a great Memorial Day weekend. How are you good? Thank you. Yeah, son It was a good weekend definitely. Any observations that you might have made personally or on behalf of Voice of San Diego? About how things went down we we went into the weekend with this one spot in Pacific beach and the social media. That followed on Friday afternoon, but at any observations for just how the county is a whole behaved and how we did well, we went to Paderborn mission. Bay On on Saturday mostly find a lot of people. Sit on the beach. And then the cop came by and Kinda scurried everybody there were I will say there were some pontoon boats party boats out there with. rather large family units of people about the same age and about the same relative level of hotness, not that I was watching them intensely or not, but other than that. It seemed like people were obviously it was no memorial day like we know it, but I think everybody starting to feel you know we have fully. Not fully, but we're. We're marching our way to this news sort of. Lifestyle where we live at the threat, but you know We kind keep going I think basically like I said last week. Everything's being boiled off into that one. Still really disruptive regulation which is. Don't congregate inside. Don't go to church service inside funeral service inside birthday party choir practice, and if you do kinda par- wear a mask and facial. Whatever else you can't because that's where the virus spreads. But That's where we're headed. Yeah, there's new life Hopefully they'll finish opening all the outside spaces and the hair salons. Today were told they could open so. Things are changing fast. Yeah well. I'm glad that you saw that. One hot family with a couple of dozen one I think that they're all early twentysomethings. That hot family. Tons of people about twenty years old have two quite a family and Brady bunch thing. Yeah I know that's that's the the sizzling hot family floating around in mission bay over the weekend. well sort of sense. Did you get? We talked a little bit earlier since restaurants were open and available for in-person dining, and we sort of talked amongst ourselves here that Marty did go into a restaurant. Jim and I chose not to, and it's not that I wasn't willing to. It just didn't happen. You know it just drove past. A couple of places wrote a bike passed a couple of places. I was willing to go. Go in I was on my way to one I got diverted. ETC, but what did you hear just a about the response for local restaurants and establishments around the county. You know there's a lot of activity, obviously a lot more excited to get open. One of the things that stood out those a lot were Nah. There was a lot of places that said look. We're not ready to implement all the changes, but also we're just not comfortable yet. You know like when I we're we. We spend the last couple of months. You know redesigning everything, so we could do take out and all this stuff and we're going to stick with that for a while. Plus our employees Many of whom are are making. You know doing okay on unemployment right now, and there's no particular urgency on either side to to get back. There is like I think. There are some bigger nights of restaurants that are just like. Unsure that they're that they're going to be of making cash. Flow zeroed out and you know this. This sort of trickling of new new customers isn't going to change that for a while. I think we haven't gotten through it all. The real challenge now is you know there's this stupid debate I think about people who think that the government restrictions are the problem, and then the other side that thinks the pandemic is the problem and I think they both need to get their heads together and realize that like you know. We have to instill confidence in people to be able to go out and to resume economic activity and to. Go. Do these things and you're not gonNA. You're not going to resume confidence by just saying like dumb mask. You know don't do that or whatever like. Masks are part of the confidence? Measure their their way of saying hey. We can go out and like we can interact we can we can. We can deal with this threat we can. It's not a fear based thing. It's more of like I'm ready. I'm out. You know mask on football player isn't a sign of weakness. It's like actually sign of like I'm willing to go out and and take you know. Take some interaction, and so I think that hopefully people will start to feel a lot more confidence, but that can only come from you know they're actually being something to be confident about an, and that's not something that the government can do itself it. It's going to have to be a rebranding redesign of everything we do think. Scott Lewis Voices. San Diego is joining us an extra thirteen sixty. When last we spoke you and I talked a little bit about a shared appreciation for opening up. Some of these streets for restaurants, and I say it that way because I think that the messaging. Matters in this in that it's not closing streets opening it, and yes, I know I'm just sorta splitting your who cares move on Nerd, but that said Scott I. You know I. Know that that at least where I live that it's not just lip service now that there is a community based group which put this to vote with the North Park Planning Commission and they plan on taking it to city council. What we're else what what's being done to. Some of these streets potentially to give these restaurants a little bit of breathing room because I know that there's something happening here where it is that I live I'm pretty I'm a homebody. I don't really travel around a lot, but what else is happening in the county to make this into a reality I think every little village like that is having a conversation little Italy I. Know is going to keep talking about it. you know I'm hoping people in in Ocean Beach, think about it. I've heard about Indonesia's and other places. I think that the the logic just makes total sense. If you can only have a quarter or third of the number of people you once had in your in your restaurant before, and you want better ventilation You know again being inside with people talking loud how these things spread? Get outside, and where does that? You know we've seeded for a century so much of our land to cars. And you know we just assume like this. These giant areas are just for them to go speeding through like well. Let's you know if there's a few that we can reclaim and we can open up per economic activity I think it would bring a a life back. That was squelched for so long now like. You know we can start to literally feel the light, and and you know if if the sun really does kill the virus as well as all the studies seem to show in ventilation is so important like let's ally with it. Let's you know. Let's join forces with we have such an advantage here because we can put up a little shade, and it's perfect, and so I hope that those continue i. know that again little little. He's been thinking about it. I think I think gyms and workout facilities should really be thinking about it, you know. If. You're not stuck to an actual machine you could. You could get outside. Be doing a lot more with a lot. More people other than like you know plexiglass shields. Separation and stuff inside like just. You know the the whole like we're wearing a phase where inside itself is going to feel weird. You know like being inside with a bunch of people. It's just gonNa feel we had for a long time and unfortunately for schools. Basketball Games and stuff like that. That's going to be hard to get through until there's some real progress with. You know hurt him in any, but for now. I think That's the best way going forward and honestly outside. We have a thirteen year old in the house now and she's you know. I like just go. You can go outside, but just stay outside. Don't go in there and he's house. Don't go into anybody's store. You know, don't go anywhere. Stay inside and you can. You can want around a lot. There was. Some reporting here locally and it came from Governor Gubernatorial Governor's press conference earlier today about hair salons. You know that that certain counties can start moving forward now. This is in US going into phase three right? We're just being given a little bit more responsibility, but still technically in phase two, or what's the deal? It stated to plus the pre. It's so we've supersized stays surveys to. It's It's that yeah, I think this is the beginning of actually stage through because he has talking about guidance to churches, there was a really interesting standoff with churches churches. They're like he's like you can open, but really again being inside and church churches themselves in South Korea in Arkansas, they were major places where it spread. If you're inside, a lot of older people poor ventilation, people, singing, and yelling and stuff like that's just the worst Combo, and so he's. He's like yeah. Okay Okay, we can start to open that. They're going to have to be a quarter occupancy. That's the exact type of thing that they need to take outside immediately outside have as many people as you want. Spread out as far as you can't get a big old stereo system, and let's go. Let's go outside, but I wouldn't go anywhere near inside of a church right now, and there's a lot of churches like the Mormon churches and others that are just like hold on. We don't need to. God if God is where we see him, or whatever like, let's just. Spread out and so, but that is fe. Three Churches Gyms Nail Salon gyms. The only one there leaving out there Texas open gyms, but they kept the showers clothes stuff like that again. Get outside. Get everything outside and I. Think you have the ticket. Do you watch Ozark? No? I. Watched the first couple of years ago now I gotta get back into. It but I heard about the party in the in the pool there. Well I. Meant the television show where yeah, yeah! They have religious services out there on the boats. Now, they're also dealing heroin, but you know that's neither here, nor there I'm just saying in theory have the religious services out there on the actual lake itself out there on the water in the boats. Yeah I mean. That's what I would do. Is I do everything outside like a drive in concert like go to the. Drive in theater, but instead of a a movie have like Arrowsmith play. That'd be bad. You know what I mean. I don't know something that'd be a fun. We need to rethink the whole thing like i. think we gotTA. We gotta live with this for a while. Now like this is the whole point is is. Eighty ninety percent of our life you know basically back, but but mask and a few other things to keep this thing and check, and and so hopefully we'll get creative. Arrowsmith. That'd be rat. Okay, good, I mean that's. That's the ban that you pulled, so we'll just roll with that and leave it right there. That's fine. Aerosmith is rather go see them at the the IB theater. Can you give us a quick preview as to what to expect on Friday because we talked a little bit about the city council special meeting. This is this is potentially a pretty significant day for the city for San Diego State for sports fans. Can you give us a quick preview of what your expectations are with the special? Meet at hauled by Georgia Gomez Friday. It's a historic day. I think there's a good chance that unit unanimity on the city council possible. They might all go for this. However. I'm sorry there is one thing that they the happen. The city attorney put out a memo late Friday about the problems. Schieffer sees with the sewage system that just quickly. The San Diego has promised the federal government that we would recycle our sewage because we don't want to spend all the money to refurbish the plant on point Loma and so to make that happen. We need thirty percent of our suicide to be recycled. Recycled to make that happen. They're going to need phillies across the city and they've an outline that one needs to be where that river park is going to be in the development, and they don't feel like F. Yes, you has allowed as much space as they need for that. She's like. Don't build your sewage thing here, but if you have to go ahead right over here and then make it better when you're done. It's a really sticky issue and it's Kinda something. They're going have to work out. I totally think they're okay. They can work it out. But it's not insignificant, and it'll be really interesting to watch happens that all said. I'm almost certain. This thing gets done. They're going to probably say like. Can you work this out? Find some way to to word it so that it's not a costly fighting the next ten years. And and then yeah, historic transfer of land will take place and fan already. Has the money borrowed so we should be the season. Some activity began pretty soon. So City Council as you said you're expecting a unanimous or near unanimous vote from the council, which is interesting, but with this have been put on the docket for the special meeting if There was no deal or you weren't close enough for a deal. Like sort of got the sense that they didn't dock it it a week ago today, as many people were expecting Scott because they weren't sure that they were close enough to a deal, and that it could still unravel now. You just brought up a very specific issue. But I got the sense though that it wouldn't be documented until they felt comfortable that that whatever differences they still had they could, they could iron out. I. Think what happened and I'm not entirely sure this is that they wanted to make sure that the city attorney had the chance to be completely on the record about all her concern, so then ten years or in five. Five years when something blows up, and there's a legal challenge with the issue, and they're in court trying to figure out the sewage thing she can say told you. I told you i. told you some version of that. I don't know if that's true. This is a not insignificant issue. This is the thing they're gonNA. have to deal with that. Land is owned by the water. Fund so you know it is meant for San Diego's water and reclaimed water efforts, and so you gotTa. Do Right by the water department, and that's what she's saying is not happening right now and so. I think there was a lot of legal and. Analytical work. Being done I think they'll get through it now. There's a lot of conspiracy theories saying that she's trying to kill it that. People are trying to kill it at ut trying to kill it that the. City attorney. Everybody's trying to kill it. I I think that there are some people that have had longstanding concerns this they're. They're being heard and I'm not sure that they'll. They'll disrupted. The UT trying to kill it I mean. Have they read the sports pages? Went to the wall for this project. that. Koi Briggs is argument is like the I think. They said like there's some concerns we should work out in the band. He threw him down. Saying you'RE GONNA. Kill it like you know it's like. Yeah, I don't know it's weird for Corey breaks. He's telling people that somebody's standing in the way of of a development because of legal concerns kind of. Talk about what an alternate universe, so then real quick, then what so let's say this thing comes across on on Friday. City Council votes it in Santa, 'cause they can't just start digging up mission valley, so then what are the processes by which they then begin designing their football stadium, and ultimately whatever their vision is gonNA. Look like they're actually they'll. They'll get going right away. They borrowed the money already. They just seem to sign the forms The money's going to come in at six hundred sixty million dollars a lot of good interest rates, some of which they won't pay principle off for a couple of decades as they and their first thing, they're gonNa do is level ground. Get Ready they'll play one more season or two in the in the old stadium, and then they'll start to tear that down while the other one's going up and It's just GonNa be it's GonNa, be a ton of movement. They're gonNA move the earth there like like literally move so much or there. They have to bring a lot of it out of the flood. Plain the the it's GonNa be something see it really will be a tremendous construction project for for decades, I. Think you know and and it'll begin right away. They'll transfer the money over to the city on July first or July second. And then. They'll start breaking ground. They already have contractors. They can do a lot of work before they finalize the exact as understated and stuff like that so You'll start to see the ground getting level pretty. Who's The lucky developer? They're the a construction firm called Clark and a couple of others like that that are doing some of that work. They haven't chosen the partner that they would use to like build all those apartments and stuff like that. Those are going to be the choice gigs, and that's probably like five or ten years down the road when they actually get those started so but the lobbyists from some of the people don't want those contracts GonNa Start Pretty soon so and I remember a lot of them pledged. A lot of major developers in town pledge that they wouldn't take those contracts so. we'll, we'll have to watch. Make sure they. They pulled that pledge. Okay well. We know. That literally nerd thing we'll, we will do is remind them of that thing they've done. And then they'll just brush right off. They'll flicky right off their shoulder like you were global. Michaud, I'll, I'll show them also. Yeah, that's it. We'll get him back. And if it's a certain developer, you and I will definitely have our sake, because there's a certain developer that we may or may not have been in business with once upon a time, but that's probably for a separate podcast. Thank you Scott. Be Safe and be well. We thank you for the time you do their day. Thank you Scott Lewis Voices San Diego via Scott who I'm talking about? All I will say is if it turns out to be that developer higher. Really really good attorneys make sure that. Everybody's uttering contracts. With certain developer in particular. This is be fun, isn't it? I hope. It'll be the most boring process ever. Starts happening and before you know it, there's a new state and again. That's all I want I know more drama John Warning everybody if it's a certain development partner I'd probably won't be here whenever it's announced Scott. Down the road, but just be very careful dealing with one certain developer around town. Because I know what it's like to be on the short end of that stick. All right we'll be back final forty minutes. On this Tuesday afternoon, it's extra thirteenth. Help feed families in need during the Corona Virus Pandang a pandemic. Jacobson Kristen Santa Food Bank and our North County. Food Bank, Chapter form the largest hunger relief organization in San Diego County. The Food, Bank distributes food to those in need. Two hundred distribution sites across the county monetary donations will be used to purchase food items to be given to those in need to donate visit food, drive online dot org slash foodbank, fighting hunger feeding. Hope here on xtra thirteen sixty, so jim just described. Reports saying that the MLB Players Association. Is Quote extremely disappointed? At proposed massive additional pay cuts that the MLB owners offered today one of those reporting as such as Scott Miller. From bleacher report WHO lives here locally? WHO's no stranger to the local airwaves? Scott, Miller this week and next will likely determine whether the MLB season will happen. Sources Players Association extremely disappointed at proposed massive additional pay cuts. The owners offered today. Now, this gets a little tricky here you right? Yes good one years out I'm good. Okay! I'm great. I'm sorry, please presume. Mutual here while you figure that out because we can hear you're. Doing this sort of stuff you can yeah, here I'll meet you for a second figure that out. Major League baseball draft the revenue sharing plan, and instead of introducing a sliding scale, and instead introduced the sliding scale of compensation to the MLB. Players Association on Tuesday afternoon the first time the two sides have formerly discussed economic issues in an attempt to open the pandemic shot season by the July fourth weekend. The plan three people with knowledge of the proposal says us today. Proposes to pay players a prorated percentage of their salaries with the players who make the most taking the big. Cuts okay! The three people spoke on the condition of anonymity. Yada Yada Yada younger players who make the amount of money would receive most of their guaranteed prorated salaries. The proposal also includes a sliding scale of compensation that guarantees players a percentage of their salaries at different intervals of the season throughout the postseason. Concerned. They, stand to make. The most revenue on TV rights would be wiped out if the countries hit by a second wave corona virus in October November on and on. As I'm reading it here, so there's a sliding scale plan in place so that your highest earners your thirty million dollar Manny Machado player. is going to take a bigger hit. Than Your League minimum. Salary Fernando Taty June, so he's going to lose. At least forty percent of his salary or players, not day would probably make the most other salary, but still no more than fifty percent. If it's prorated because you're playing half a season, or is that going to be us a friend of mine very good friend of mine, who I spent a little time with yesterday, who was the officiant? My wedding, the longtime player agent we were talking about what to do in a revenue sharing situation. Okay, and he said that this has happened similar stuff has happened before and that. If. You leave it up to the players man. It's going to become a bloodbath with players because then the players. Then it becomes division in the ranks for the players themselves internal, bickering internal bickering, and maybe is that. Is that part of the motivation here amongst the owners, or is this actually the best plan surprise? You have the players themselves a year before. You're going into a CPA negotiate. Not I would say that that's that's. Very realistically, part of the motivation of having a plan like this out there usual suspects with league sources Jeff Passan. Bob Nightingale people who are dialed in with owners people who are dialed in with the Commissioner's Office. Funny how they seem to have the details, but Scott Miller did point out that and listen I. Think in theory I don't know that it's the worst thing. Yeah. I mean the. The players who make the most the people who make the most. are going to take. They're going to lose the most because that's how this works, so let's say four percent just a random number here four percent. Of Manny Machado. Is a lot different than four percent of Fernando taught junior. If you're just using straight percentages, but that doesn't seem to be the case here they're asking. The highest earners in the sport of this reporting is correct hate the biggest hit take like twenty right not just make. Not just get the biggest hit. Because four percent of thirty, million is a lot more than four percent of five, hundred and fifty thousand. But. We're not equally cutting salary here across the board. We're saying that those were the highest earners have to take upwards of seventy eighty percent. If this reporting is accurate because I just saw that that Garrett Cole. You Know Bryce Harper. That they they don't stand to make fifty percent for fifty percent of the work, which is what prorated plan would look like right. But they would. Receive Twenty percent of their annual salary under this plan meaning that would then be able to pay to pay scale over into the spectrum. Yes, so this the sport based on this plan your big. You're asking the biggest stars in the sport. Take the biggest hit right which again in theory is in wrong, but it's probably not going to go over well with those players who worked to get to that point, but there again. Again again. One thing that you have to go back to when you when you discuss, this is regardless you're asking players to take a risk your potentially asking players to be separated from their families and normal life, so when you do on top of that the best players the highest paid we want you to assume more financial risk in order to go ahead and accomplish the bottom line play into pay, the lesser pay players. Correct. I. I killed mumbled through my statement. I'm sorry. Try again. I can't. My. Headgear Darren that's why I said when they were talking about doing a revenue sharing plan. That was the first thing that popped into my what. How does this work? You know who's GonNa decide what Manny Machado makes versus one for. Juniors GonNa make more. How are you GonNa Compensate Mackenzie Gore if he's on the team versus Garrett Richards. How do you do that? Like what does that look like and you're just going to say you're just going to say here here. You Go, everybody. Here's a lump sum of money. You're just you're going to be the joker. You're going to break a pool cue and say here. You guys figure it out. You know you guys stab each other in the neck. Try to figure out how this is going to happen. Seems like it's pretty complicated to me. It seems like that's pretty complicated to get done here in short amount of time. Now again I don't have I. don't object to the idea that the highest earners are going to be the ones who are most impacted from from a loss standpoint. That's what's happening in a lot of companies were people are trying to avoid layoffs by having the top save five percenters or tempus percenters take a pay cut. On. This is John Hayman writes while the Union may not love him first proposal. It's important to note that this is simply that I offer there isn't a ton of time though I mean. We guys we don't. We, don't have all year to figure this out. but apparently that is not going over very well. Interesting timing with a couple of facilities opening up. Yes my timeline now is county supervisor, press conference presidential press conference and MLB owners. But just now what they're saying is because now you're going to get division in the ranks where you're going to have somebody saying at the bottom of the financial ladder going walk get almost all of mine. What's his problem? He's already made all of his money. Or maybe we'll see like this will be an interesting test with the players union, which has been the strongest players Union. In sports perhaps one of the strongest unions in the United States this would be a very interesting test to see what happens at the lower levels of the MLB players. Association think this was a step in in starting the divide. Player versus player. Well listen. There's yes. I think that this was an attempt to to either get the players to eat them themselves to cannibalize themselves. Or accept a bad deal. and. We'll see how that works. But. Baseball's playing with fire, my opinion and I realized that it is. It is the highest level of interest in the city I. Get it. And that the NBA. Down, the ladder? We're going to have a lot of these things picking back up again. And Baseball is much more regionalized than it is national. Baseball's playing with fire because this is the time where they don't have the stage to themselves. NBA appears to be getting closer. NHL Just announced the plan whatever it is, they're going to go play in a couple of cities. I know not everybody's going to get up early and watch the soccer. But they are, they're. They're playing with fire, but even if they do return if they return, they will have competition like they've never faced before exactly because when the Beatles returned, you'll get them close to play off time in. It's a whole different level of of sport. Then even if you say well listen, I don't like those other sports, the way I like baseball. I get it This show owes a lot of its success to baseball it does. But it's not like we're going to be sitting here on our hands all summer long. We'll have things to talk about. So I'd be very careful if I were that sport as a whole. Because the baseball fan might tune out for the rest of the summer, but sports fan will say well. It might not have been my first choice, but I can tune into this and I can tune into that, and then if it's long as it bridges us to football. I'll be okay. The biggest news community baseball has been. The acrimony. That's been the story of. Mba has been Michael Jordan John Hayman exact percentages in MLB. GimMe a break with him. Exact percentages, MLB, proposal aren't known, but the people invest involved estimate, the best paid stars Trout Coal Verlinden Sherzer etc might make twenty percent of their full salary over eighty two games, plus the postseason for coal that'd be going from thirty six to nine, and yes, I know all of you would do it for nine, so would I, but you know you can't throw like Eric Colin, neither can I, and that's the end of that rhetoric. Final segment for the day TV. Listings. Yes, let's go finish the wire. You, kidding so, what's next? I've had to back away from the television. That's good, that's. Really so good. Not In a way like the red wedding just like I. I don't WanNa. Start Show because this to me these five seasons, and especially the series finale for the wire. was as close to perfect as you can get. That good, it was really good. Don't spoil it. Bill Watch it and I think it's really hard. I think series finale is are hard. I don't envy any of the show. Runners producers directors etc for having and a series. It's hard. People are going to be disappointed, but this one. Man. This one was really good. Final segment for the day when we come back on a guide. Final Segment On this. Tuesday afternoon. Show forty seven. And counting? What are we GonNa do for fiftieth show. That's. Next week, correct. Use both hands to count. I don't know I think we should have Margarita twelve. Get drunk. What do you think? Feels like we do that everyday. A broadcast outside. Maybe come to come to crown point and we'll do show from there. From your neighborhood where you live. Crown Point. During. GonNa go by Rockies uncramps later on evening. What's up with your roommate man dude? That's already sent us a picture of a rancid half a gallon of milk on a counter. Sit in there since. The expiration was may seventeenth, and it's on the counter. It appeared to be mostly full. It's black and green. If you look at the container of milk? Something's growing inside gagged a little bit. It's black and green and today. It was like bubbling out. It's about to explode. What are you doing? Man? I'm not going to touch it. It's not the game you WANNA play. The rancid milk is bubbling out of container. You're like well. Now my problem, it's not my problem. Why should I I mean what should I do? Throw it away. I think you should sock this roommate. Right in the nose and say if that's still there in two minutes. We're going to have problems. Just fight. Fistfight get over with. Your shorts hers. It's not mine. Who else who else would belong to I don't know. Why I'm asking it's not my milk. Man. I never thought you'd actually long for the days where the spinach was the thing that company. Let's defensive. I've got to get new headgear. This is brutal. Your riddle. Yeah just do it. They're retainer. TV listings tonight according to Mardi. Here's what she won't be watching from our house. At Five, thirty PM top. God is on AMC. Eight o'clock on lifetime television show I was Lorena Bobbitt enhanced addition. What does that I have no idea? There was no explanation given grumpy, old men eight PM on Spike. Justice League APM. On TNT in the wake of Superman's death, Batman, and wonderwoman. Super powered individuals to defend humanity from an other worldly threat called Steppenwolf. Together with their new allies cyborg Aquaman the flash. They formed the justice. I've missed something that. When did Superman die job? He died in Batman V, Superman, spoiler alert. Won't wait now. It's at the movie with Baffler and somebody else. Yes, Henry cavill really. To Kill Superman, so we ben Affleck Batman. Killed Superman. Ben Affleck's the movie. He almost kills Superman. But he doesn't. A died. For who killed him then? Creature that's. I don't know some somebody. lakos eight PM on BBC Constantine Nine PM on sci-fi. Cop Tangles with demons and angels when she probes are twins, death with the man played by Keanu. Reeves was literally been the hell and back. This sounds like a totally unwatchable movie I actually I WANNA watch it. Ghost Adventures Nine PM on Travel Zach, nick and Aaron had to Charleston South Carolina to explore a one hundred and thirty year old jail that House, the first female serial killer in America, then the guy's investigate the blood, curdling screams and ghostly activity in Bisbee Arizona. Gathers on Monday night. Jim MOMS listening. Take US home. where you bad rainbows go. Prism. Also come on! Are, you know. I can't. Okay! Right. I mean he had how many days? Joke. For the weekend. Where do bad rainbows go prison? Okay it's okay. Let's get. Wasn't terrible. Always strive for wasn't terrible. Type raise that's that's acceptance for Mardi exactly. Caesar Torah saying he was killed by Doomsday yes, Doomsday. Yeah. Thank you see by the way we're not asking for more burgeon beer. We're just saying we enjoyed it all all of it. Single every last drop of it has gone. 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Jared Diamond

"Let us say a Lotta jared diamond. Yesterday. It was somewhat lost in the shuffle body proposal was reported about a fifty or so game schedule Jared. Diamond refers to this as the nuclear option in a tweet that he posted earlier today, jared diamond covers baseball for the Wall Street Journal. He's an author, the name the book if you are inclined and I would highly recommend it, not that I've read it just based on Jared's writing. It's called swing. Kings jared dominant of the Wall Street Journal joins us on extra thirteen sixty, jared Darren Smith. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you. Appreciate it so overall the fact that we had an MLB players association proposal Sunday. We had league proposal yesterday. Would you say before we get into the particulars? Is this? Should this be perceived as good news that at least the two sides are talking? Low I think it's important to clarify that. The the League did not submit a counter proposal to the Union yesterday. The League is floating through the media that they have this idea of potentially trying to force the players and do a short season, but as of just about an hour or so ago, that had not actually been submitted to the Union in fact. Fact Union heard about that idea that the League is now floating for the first time on ESPN yesterday at the same time, everybody else heard about it when Jeff passing on sportscenter and reported it so until there's a formal proposal like that. Put in front of the players in their minds. I think everyone's mind suggest viewed as posturing for now. All right strike that question from the record, jared, then, what are we to make now? It's two times. Maybe that's not enough to suggest. It's a trend. But what do we make out of proposals floated through media before the Players Association even gets wind of themselves. But? I think at this point I think. Everyone's a little frustrated with all negotiating in public, but there is some good news out of what happened yesterday. At least I think. Was that a couple of days ago, really two days ago, the owner's position was there no scenario where the players will will receive their pro rated salary, and now suddenly the owner seem open to okay fine. We'll give you your parade salaries, but only it has to be fifty games. You can't go over fifty games well, it's. It's not a big stretch to the helper hop that fifty games could turn into eighty. Just the fact that the owners have gone from. We will never pay your prorated salary to fine. We'll do it, but only under these condition that's assigned to me that things are starting to move. The rhetoric is still intense. There's still a lot of sniping publicly and privately, but it does seem like finally. People are starting to slowly move off their positions, and hopefully that could lead to a real conversation. Jared Diamond of the Wall Street Journal joining us on extra thirteen sixty. If you're my program director, how much time would you recommend I spent on the fifty game idea? I think it's very unlikely that that's the idea that actually becomes the life. The owners want to play your games because they pay less than the players. They make their money from the playoff. The players make their money, but the regular season, so it's not as the prize that the players want more game than the League does look? The players proposed a hundred and fourteen games. The League is now proposing fifty well. The direct mid point of those two numbers is two games, which just so happens to be the number of game, the League or proposed like ten days ago or a week ago. Whatever that was so I think we could sort of slowly. See where this might be heading. So be the players association itself Sunday nine did submit a formal proposal. How was that received in in your understanding your reporting? How is that received by the League? Quite poorly The League has no interest in one hundred and fourteen game season. Maybe no interest is the right way of phrasing it, but there's no way it will happen for a variety of reasons, perhaps the biggest has to do with a real concern that there's going to be a surge of krona virus cases again in the fall in the postseason, could potentially be cancelled, which would be devastating for the owners legitimately so they wanna get the playoffs of over and done with fast as possible, not play. Play through November, which is what the players were proposing, the players also proposed our full prorated salaries with the owners still say they will not do over more than the forty or fifty games, so they say they're not going to engage with it, but like they said that and then they said they weren't gonNA. Engage there, but then the next day or the same day. They said all right fine. We'll do pro rated for fifty so It seems like perhaps they will engage with it more than they initially indicated. Jared I saw something the ESPN. I want to say. It came from buster. Olney just to make sure I. Attach Proper Credit, not asking you to comment on him the reporter, but he had a line and the line to me. Really really stood out. Buster said according to sources there owners, a group of owners that are willing to shut down the season in order to slash payroll and reduce losses I want well. That sounds like a pretty massive story given that there are only thirty owners in this sport. Your thoughts on that, and do you believe that it is true? Like it is also my understanding that there are at least some owners who say that if they have to pay the players, their full paraded salaries over eighty two games, then they would be better off not playing than doing that financially their. Owners that are are making that to have that position and I don't know if it's true. The players don't believe it's true We're non physician to know of. It's true. These books have never been open to the extent that would allow us to know, but there's no doubt that there are some owners and I feel that way they it'd be better off financially by by not playing and playing have to do the full prorated salary you hope however that eventually these owners come to realize. That not playing this year. Will it cost them way more more money? In the long term, then perhaps one year of losses, not playing this year. Because of money would be devastating for the industry. It would set it back. In incalculable amount I, don't know how baseball recover from being the only sport not to find a way back to action. During the pandemic I hope the owners recognized that and honestly I think it some level they do. But how is it that an owner could could take that position and be that shortsighted I mean that's the point that that I can't quite wrap my mind around based on what you just said. What was printed elsewhere? I mean how could be that shortsighted to think that it would be worthwhile to shut down whatever is remaining, and whatever can be salvaged from this season in the short term without having long term plans. I guess they'd be is we have a longer conversation about sports ownership, and do these owners have long ban plans wire wise. The modern sports owner in sports. Look at the makeup of the owners compared to the past a lot. Lot Less family ownership a lot more guys coming in than flip it after a decade or two, and you wonder if some of these owners really worry about twenty thirty years down the road. They don't expect to be owners anymore then I. I don't know this much more complicated question. We probably have time to get into here, but the reality is rob Manfred They. Would you want about him? He knows that not playing baseball this year. Year it'd be suicidal for the industry. He does know that even if you don't make criticize as much as you want. He knows that not playing is not an option, and that's why the way they're big threat to the players right now. We're GONNA. Make you play forty games, not we're GONNA walk away. The League's position has never been at least right now that we are going to walk away because they know they can't do that. Last question jared. This is the most important week according to many since the last most important week that we had in this conversation is there. What's the significance of this week now and just the ticking clock of of having to get the ball, rolling and getting things ramped up in some capacity. If they WANNA play on July. Fourth, which is undeniably major, League Baseball's goal for variety of reasons, many of them symbolic. If they want to do that, they have to have a deal done the lease the framework, the big picture framer the deal done. If not by the end of this week by Monday, you know they really can't go much longer than that if they wanNA play on July fourth now look if they don't make this deadline. That is not a real deadline doesn't mean there's no baseball and twenty twenty. They could still get a deal done later and started Susan their job. They can even started season them in August and something resembling a baseball season but. But if they WANNA, do this July fourth plan. They really have a about five six, maybe seven days top. I know it sounds hard to imagine they could get it done. But having been around these two sides before these negotiations before they are always really really bad until suddenly they're not. It doesn't happen gradually one day hopefully in the next few days. We're going to hear that someone's made the proposal. That's the other side. I hope that's what happens it usually what happens, but it might remain ugly for a little bit before them. The name of the Book Is Swing Kings. He's Jared Diamond National Baseball writer with The Wall Street Journal. Thank you very much, jared. We hope you're well. You got it, thank. You Got Jared diamond on twitter. If you are inclined, there's a lot of smart stuff there. We'll be back. We'll discuss what it was that we just heard from jared diamond. That's coming up next on extra thirteen.

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 224: News, Covid Updates and Studs as Duds

GSMC Baseball Podcast

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 224: News, Covid Updates and Studs as Duds

"The. Golden State concepts, baseball podcasts we cover everything majorly from sprint trees to the world series. Got Your Favorite Club cover from New York to Boston to La. vix Is the golden state media concepts, baseball podcast. Hello and welcome back. Thank you. For Tuning into the. Mc Baseball podcast brought to you by the GSM see podcast network. I am your host Colin Manley and it is currently August I of this recording. Yes. We finally made it to August in this crazy crazy year that we have going on who would have thought that we would actually be getting here. Man We said the last episode. Of the week that I recorded that was for Wednesday, that things were getting off to a crazy start. Well, the crazy literally was just getting started I mean I never expected this week to carry on and continue to be a whiz the way it was in the world of baseball but we literally, we're just getting started and we got a lot of information. We want to get you up to date on everything going on along with other baseball news today with some of the great topics on the podcast we're going to be touching upon news and noise around the league. To start things off with, make sure you're getting your information and everything touched upon when it comes to the thirty teams in Major League Baseball. We once again, we're GONNA talk about information on Cova Nineteen in the league it just keeps growing and the season is seeing a lot of changes so far and want to make sure that you have all of your information on that going forward I want to discuss. Maybe some changes and ideas that we have going forward just kind of looking at how Kobe is going to be changing our season potentially and how we're going to be looking at things. because. Let's be real now more situations with the corona virus is going to be coming our way. We have not seen the end of it. This is just getting started. So we definitely have a lot of different things that we're GONNA have to prepare for and lastly studs as duds. Yeah. We're going to discuss some of the ten biggest stars this season who are really having a struggle to start the year off. You know we we expect to see them, turn it around at some point. So you've fantasy baseball players I'm sure you can avoid or can avoid you wanna see that one you're GonNa wait for it and that's going to be in the last segment but we are definitely going to start things off with news a noise around the league keeping you up to date on all big information across the thirty teams in Major League Baseball and the first thing that we really need to talk about it's a very big story. That kinda ties everything together so far that could potentially affect all thirty teams in the MLB. So Major League Baseball has a plan in place to try and get their sixty games in if possible. So the MLB MLB Players Association have agreed that doubleheaders can be used to get games in and the length of those games are going to be changed. So it's not going to be two nine inning games moving forward. The plan is it's going to be two seven inning games for the rest of the. Twenty, twenty season it was put in place to start on August I that is today Saturday as a recording. When you get in this, it's going to be Sunday so for the rest of the season going forward doubleheaders seven inning games. So if any innings are needed after seven, so let's say that we're going past that seven inning we're going to start putting into place the extras rule that we have been seeing so far this season. So that means if we are going to an eighth inning in doubleheaders. We're GONNA. Be starting with the previous last out on second base. Another big thing that has to do with games being considered official. If, we are having any issues with weather. Games will become official after the fifth inning if the home team is winning. Or five complete innings have been played in the away team is leading. So five innings if whether it becomes an issue in these doubleheaders is always going to take for it to be an official game. These doubleheaders are GONNA end up being massive now seven inning doubleheaders. This is not a crazy rule. It's actually quite common as it's already being used in college baseball. And also minor league baseball but you'll see a lot of other places as well. Seventy doubleheaders that is so it will be the first time. This is used at the major league level two seven inning games. Since nineteen twelve when the red sox and Indians completed the same length of game. So it's definitely going to be new to major. League baseball that's for sure. But I don't think it's going to end up being too crazy thing and it's just another rule that we're going to be trying to us to make sure that these games are getting in, they want to reach that sixty mark so. It's GonNa. Be Weird probably I just saying, Hey, final in seven, but it's probably a good move in the long run. If they're gonNA try to get all sixty games in for all thirty teams. Moving onto. Now, some actual player news will since the loss of Alex Wood for the La Dodgers there has been a lack of healthy bodies in that dodger starting rotation, but it could be changing shortly and that's at least what is being planned for the dodgers. It has been reported that Clayton Kershaw is the top option return and take that roster spot. Left from woods. So kershaw is now currently slated to make his twenty twenty debut on Sunday. So if you're hearing this, he might have already started pitching or yet again at the start yet. But Sunday looks like it's going to be his debut Verse Division. Fo the Arizona diamondbacks, Kershaw was scratched from his start just four hours on night from back stiffness. Looks like he's finally GonNa end up taking the mound when it comes to the dodgers season. Another change that is being made for the pitching staff for the dodgers will be that they're going to recall Mitch White from the teams alternate training site. So bring in one more pitcher as well. Now, this will set up to make his major league debut for the team. So when he's used for the first time, could it be spot start? Could it be out of the bullpen? We are not really sure that hasn't been announced yet but Mitch, White when he makes his appearance on the mound that's going to be his major league debut for the La Dodgers. So one more pitcher being added. For a team that's desperately been having issues with getting pitchers on the field especially when it comes to starters a lot of them, not being there at least from what was expected to be their original starting rotation. Now the braves they have decided to make a change in their pitching staff, as well as Atlanta has designated right-hander Julius Casin for assignment. So in response, the braves will also select the contract of left-hander Chris Rusen to create space on the roster. So they got rid of Casin Roussin's going to be stepping in to take that pitching spot. Now to scene was originally signed on a one year contract with the braves well that that didn't last too long 'cause that contract started in July. The team had been looking for some death when it came to the pitching, Department because Cole. Hamels. He had an I L. Stint early on Felix Hernandez was going to be on that braves team Lenny we're expecting well, he decided to opt out on the season. So just seeing who had mostly been a starter in recent years had two appearances out of the bullpen for the braves. After they saw those two they said, hey, we saw enough we're going to end up moving on from two seen he's going to be designated for assignment. So the odds of that is probably he's done and Atlanta at least in a braves uniform, he's really been bouncing around quite a bit recently. May Be looking for another team in the short term but if there's one thing that's a positive for. Work Maycom. because. have been working on pitching health and it's definitely been a struggle for a lot of these teams. So don't be surprised if he ends up rebounding somewhere I mean not that crazy long ago he was there for the brewers and padres having some good showing some good stint. So this probably won't be the last you see of just seen but the next time you see most likely it will not be in a braves uniform. Some other pitcher information and ward. Oh, Rodriguez is going to be shut down for the rest of the season for the Boston. Red Sox now, right Rigas does have a heart ailment that was caused by covid nineteen more. Specifically, he had an inflammation of the heart. The lefty was expected to be a big big big time player in the Red Sox rotation that team love Rodriguez really had high hopes for him, but he is going to be shut down. Since, his health conditions have not been improving with his heart. So the good news going along with this, he is expected to make a full recovery for next season and pitch again for Boston. So there's not a whole lot of concerns with the team moving forward. They have just kind of made the decision that this season. Not Worth it were not going to take the chance to throw the risks to have him out there. So just for right now, it is smart to make this call with any condition focused around the heart especially with Govan nineteen heart conditions are just nothing to really mess around with. Probably a good call for the Red Sox may I know I was excited to potentially see him pitch this year but fully understand what the decision is and why they're making this so Rodriguez shut down for the rest of the season for the red. SOx. While some others shutdown News as well. The New York Yankees. They got some bad news as Tommy can lease injured elbow looks destined for some Tommy John's surgery. An MRI showed a right owner collateral injury. After Canley felt some right forearm tightness in a workout. Tuesday night after a game with. Baltimore. So. Big Big big loss for that bullpen for the New York Yankees Canley he turns thirty one on August seven. So that's coming right around the corner and he's going to be missed as a big part of that bullpen. Last season two, thousand, nineteen, he had sixty one and a third innings pitched with a three point six, seven e e r a the righty also average twelve point nine strikeouts per nine innings. So he was just great. At getting people out. So just a big big loss for the Yankee bullpen especially when they just kind of had the news that it sounded like roll this Chapman was going to be coming back and sure they really didn't want to have one arm come in another one leave but it looks like that's what's going to end up happening for the Yankees at the back end zone they might be looking to have someone else acquired signed. What habit the Yankees are to be looking to make some sort of move. Trade News and no shock here as it involved the Miami Marlins team that's going to be talked about a lot going forward and. The MARLINS team they look to get a player in Richard Bleier he is headed to Miami. For a player to be named later, this will be an attempt to fill in the roster that had recently beat been decimated by positive Govan nineteen tests. Over the week Bleier, he's coming over from the Baltimore Orioles he is a thirty three year old left hander that over his career has numbers look alright two point nine, nine era across one, hundred, seventy, seven, and a third innings of work. With the Yankees and the orioles since making it to the majors in two thousand sixteen. So he's only been in the League for what has this is fourth season at thirty three years old the career numbers look. All right. But the really big red flag is last season was quite a bit of a struggle for the thirty-three-year-old as he had a five point three, seven era over fifty five and a third innings with Baltimore. Also having to remember that Baltimore team wasn't that great last year. So that could be playing a little bit of a factor into it, but he's going to see if he can regain some of his better moments from early in his career going from Baltimore to Miami while Miami not a crazy good team many thought probably coming in the season definitely have an always start to their season if they get back to eventually playing some baseball games. That marlins team we we don't know moving forward. Staying, with some Marlins News we have started to see more opt-outs coming for this season so. As his side now just expect to potentially see more of these in the coming days with more information most likely coming out with a lot of concerns over positive tests as of recent with the corona virus but is in Dot D. Diaz is d. as has informed the marlins that he plans to opt out for the rest of the twenty twenty season amid the corona virus outbreak, the team. Is Battling. Now, Diaz is an interesting case because he has been consistently testing negative at least so far reported. But with this all going on, he is still made the decision to opt out. Now Diaz did bat one, seventy, three as a rookie last season we get it not very great but the organization has really high hopes for the young second Baseman at his potential moving forward. So kind of. Just making. SAFE SMART call going into next season Diaz also kind of a big. Part of the marlins because he was a part of the return, the team got in the Christian Yelich trade from the Milwaukee brewers. So they are probably looking out for his future in these uncertain times and they think he has a chance to do good things. So probably not going to be a lot of complaints from the Marlins that Diaz is up. Sitting out. So just going to be more roster moves for them if game start happening backup for Miami. Mentioning the Brewers, Lorenzo Cain is another player deciding to opt out on the twenty twenty season and this one happens to be a very big below. Four the brewers as the veteran was having a solid start to the season. So the team had announced the decision. On Saturday and they seem to show full support for the veteran outfielder. He's making some health concerns being the reason why he's making the decision. Kane is a two time. All Star. And a two thousand eighteen gold glove winner. So winning that last season, which we also might need to talk about that it's it's. Quite unbelievable. He only has one gold glove to his name, but that's that's just another discussion for another podcast probably but so far he had been batting three, thirty three in the season with two and five games. Now, the numbers assigned massive with the to rb is, but the bigger picture was he made the move back to being the leadoff hitter for Milwukee, which is what was happening when he was there any originally signed that five year contract with the brewers last year kind of struggled at the plate a little bit was working on a lower part of the. been very good for Milwaukee when their offense has kind of been a little stagnant this season. Sure. They're sad to see him go. But again, like I said the team kind of fully supporting his decision. So that's what we have for news and noise so far here on the MC baseball podcast. Just, a lot of information going around a lot of uncertainty moving around with kind of pitcher health seeing some patterns follow here also starting opt out like we said something to keep our eyes on in the coming days it might have a few more players deciding to step away coming up. In the next segment, we're going to be talking about the cove in nineteen. What else is there to talk about when it comes to the baseball right now but it's just playing such a massive part. We're GONNA talk about the crazy outbreak that Kinda has come our. What's going on for multiple teams? Really. So making sure you're up-to-date on all of that here on the MCC baseball podcasts on the GMC PODCAST Network I'm your host Colin Manley we will be back here after a brief commercial break. This is your ultimate stop for everything sports the Golden State media concepts, sports podcast should I say more from the NFL Melby the NBA MMA? It's all in here golden state media concepts, sports podcast listen. Welcome back to the. Baseball podcast here on the GS MC podcast network. I am. Colin. Manley we took the first segment to really talk about some news noise around the league. We had some big news we're having to do with double headers for MLB Games. Moving forward. We had some talk about pitcher health. It's just it's going to be a common trend. It seems like a lot of this season going on pitchers being designated for assignment a lot of things going on there avenue with a few transaction news along with some players opting out, which is definitely going to be something that I think we're GONNA see a lot more moving forward sadly, but with a lot of uncertainty going on around the league. Opting out is just going to become. Part of the game, it seems this season and it's something we're going to have to keep an eye on definitely GonNa make sure that you are up to date on all of those every time we're releasing podcasts but the next thing we really want to talk about is, where are we with covert nineteen? And the crazy outbreak has come our way so. No surprise here on the last podcast that I released on Wednesday. Class time we talked about a we were just getting started talking about all the positive tests for the marlins things have changed I how we have grown since. Then at this time, the the MARLINS are currently up to eighteen positive player tests as of Friday so. Didn't have any Saturday which is a positive. That's a good thing for the marlins but up to Friday eighteen positive tests that were just players this is going to make a total of twenty one members of the Marlins organization that have tested positive. So that's coaches on top of the players as well getting up to twenty one. It had gotten to the point that the marlins knowing they have this massive of positive cases. that. They decided to get some buses that were organized to take infected players and coaches home from Philadelphia to Miami because the team was actually on the road in Philadelphia and so they decided that they're going to. have. The most safe travel they possibly can and get these guys on buses to get out of there that story had come from ESPN. While the rest of the team currently staying put. In Philadelphia Away from the rest of the detained so all games for the MARLINS had been postponed through Sunday. and. We have been watching the team making transaction moves. A sign that the team is trying to quickly get a competitive roster potentially put back together for future game. So this has been some free agent signing some trades definitely trades being the biggest thing. We even saw the one we talked about in the first segment marlins making a trade for reliever pitcher for a player to be named later. Doing, whatever they can to try to get things back on track. With where they were. So it is certainly being reported that none of the Marlins are showing serious symptoms a slight positive for the team nothing serious coming from marlins that have tested positive but. It is currently still in question. If, the team season will continue at home. Against the phillies on Tuesday so that was supposed to be. A home game upcoming. As they postponed games through Sunday, they thought Tuesday things are going to come back they're going to be able to play. Well right now that is not necessarily. A hundred percent on pace it gets to be a very complicated issue with the MARLINS. If they can't travel back to Miami to play these Games. It is possible that the team could stay in Philadelphia play against the phillies and they would just play as the home team. So batting in the later part of the. And then from there. The team could move on to New York where they would have to face the mets. Following that series with the mets. If it were to happen, they would go on to buffalo to face the Blue Jays and their new stadium set up. That, they're doing at their AAA affiliate. If? That were all to happen in that succession. So we're saying that play home game in Philadelphia traveled to New York mets traveled buffalo play the Blue Jays. It looks like they would not return to Miami until. August fourteenth. So kind of along quarantine period that we would be seeing, but it gets even more complicated because the Miami Dade County where the Marlins play also requires people to quarantine for fourteen days if they are coming from the New York area. So it's complicated to say the least for this team. Really. What's going to happen the upcoming days? We do not know. So. The marlins definitely are going to be a team where. They may play games moving forward. They may not. The roster could be very, very, very different. We aren't sure going forward is definitely going to be something to watch. So the MARLINS aren't the only one that are getting in on on the positive tests cause not to mention those cardinals they decided to get in on the outbreak front with positive tests coming out. After a postpone matchup between the brewers and the cardinals on Friday rabid test rapid our API rapid rapid tests were brought in. It was reported that four to six additional cardinals and not all players. All players at this moment had tested positive. So this led to the postponement of Saturday's game in Milwaukee as well and what most likely puts into question any games on Sunday as well. They were talking about doubleheaders, but as of right now, most likely leading towards postponement. There was also talks about how some cardinals coaches had been in the Miller park facilities, but there was no direct contact with anybody on poor staff. So they are not really worried about any brewers staffer players. Contracting the virus as well. one of the other positives was expected. The cardinals did do some contact tracing so One of their positives was expected. They thought for sure one of their players was gonNA test positive just from tracing back. To. Other positive tests. The thing that ended up surprising them as having more than one positive. But that's just the virus we it's it's an unknown here. This was a reported by Jeff Passan of ESPN. The team is really hoping that the spread is contained at this moment because they were able to do this contact tracing but more information going to come back when more these saliva tests that the league has been doing. Are Completed. So we're going to have to see where this goes as they are testing more players and staff on the cardinals. This one will have more information coming the cardinals are now another team many will have their is going on forward so. If it's really as contained as they hope, things can go on forward out of this weekend as planned. If not, it's definitely going to be interesting to see what happens with the team moving forward. The other team that's been very heavily affected by this the Philadelphia Phillies the team that last played the Miami marlins before all the positive tests came out they as of right now hope to be in a good position. After a full week since the games versus the MARLINS. So getting a week away from any type of contact that could have happened the team has reported zero positive tests on players since postponing games so Since, they have been playing against the MARLINS. Now, a single player has tested positive. The League has said to have optimism about some tests that did test positive in the phillies organization. So a coach and a clubhouse attendant were reported to have tested positive but they think. That they were potentially false positive so that the tests were off. So the phillies have been back working out in their stadium in their facilities because all the players have gotten thumbs up and they are hoping to get games going again. They are still scheduled to play this week as of right now. The Yankees. They're splitting a two and two home and away series. They are gonNA play. Monday Tuesday Wednesday, and Thursday two games in Philadelphia two games in New York, as of right now, those games are planned good to go. So that's a very positive side moving forward that the third team we kind of had our eye on. Looks to be okay. Now the biggest and most concerning. Noise. Definitely has to be coming from the players potentially having issues. With being strict on their own and voiding this virus. Now, a lot of the stuff is rumors that are floating around, but there's definitely seems to be some trends with a lot of people very upset with the information going out and about. So you're wondering how realistic some of this is. Having to do with a lot of these positive tests but there were rumors circulating that marlins players were going out to clubs before the major spread within their own team. And now, there are some stories coming out about cardinals players being at a casino. Recently spreads concerns on the season's there was even talk about some of these players being out on golf courses in the Milwaukee. Area. That one I haven't heard as much about but definitely with the players being at the casinos. So players not following protocols at the moment is Kinda what is bruening this things as a lot of people are believing for twenty eight other teams fans as well. That have been following these protocols pretty well, and now I get it. I do want to talk about this as a real person, not just someone who's covering baseball. It is very hard to tell these guys how to live their lives. As many are doing what they want in the real world. I'M GONNA be a realist ice. You see a lot of people out and about. In the season and there's just a lot of concerns. That are going on. But if they want to continue this season. They need to tighten up there really no is no excuse. The players went and fought for money in this off season. or before the season was really starting to get going that was a major concern on whether or not these guys wanted to play risking. At all. I remember very vividly following this. Money money money was the concern. And went the players association and the MLB came to an agreement. And now we have guys put in the season in jeopardy. Because they're being careless in what they're doing with their off time and again I get it, they want to go off they want to do things they want to do things that are fun, but it's just not the world we wanna live in or can live in really at this moment the world we wanna live in. Yes. We want to be doing this stuff, but we can't be doing this just because we know the risks are out there in these players can't be careless because of how easy it is to get this virus and pass it on to other. And now we have guys putting this season in jeopardy. It doesn't sound funding luxurious I. Know if Your Life is just the baseball season. You're going from Park to home park to home park to home. I. Get it. It doesn't sound like it's the greatest thing in the world but this is your job that you agreed upon you came into an agreement. Players. Association voted on this and they went forward to it. If you want this season to happen. It's baseball and home for many of these guys. And especially for these guys that have families that are concerned about it's definitely a big point. It's a big talking point family health. Thinking about your teammates thinking about the issues with their living situations, how many of these players have cited? Young newborns that they're very worried about you gotta look at your teammates and go okay I. GotTa make a safe decision, not just for me. But for the other guys on this team, it is time for these players to be responsible and better because they don't have the bubble format like other sports. Like now, now is the time to get serious about this. They don't have that bubble format and we'll talk more about that in upcoming segments but. Your life has to become that format. You may not be living it right now but that's what your life has to be. If we're going to get this thing going moving forward, isolate yourself from the risk be responsible for this league to keep going. That's what a lot of these players. It's a hard realization, but they have to come to this realization. So Commissioner Rob Manfred he he remains pretty confident that the season can continue and it's going to go on but he has even said how the players just need to be better. It's a big talking point right now it has been talked about how Manfred told the. Players Association. Executive Director Tony Clark that if the sport doesn't do a better job of managing. It could be shut down for the entire season. It feels like it could be coming. If. Things don't change or get better. We are really treading water. In this situation, we don't know fully what the future holds. But teams are going to have to become more strict. If. They want to see this thing through. It's It's going to be hard for some of these teams. You really are GonNa have to clamp down. When it comes to everything we've seen so far but when it comes to rescheduling just kind of talking through this again, some of the things we've touched on make sure we have this all down the Yankees and phillies. They'RE GONNA play four game series home and home series from Monday through Thursday. In. New York Monday and Tuesday in Philadelphia on Wednesday and Thursday that's the plan for those two teams that have been seeing some postponements. Originally, scheduled game between the Yankees and the Tampa Bay rays. In Tampa Bay on Thursday is being rescheduled as part of a doubleheader for next Saturday. So that's going to be a time. We're GONNA. See these seven inning games into effect for next week for the raise. In the Yankees, the remainder of their four game series on Friday and Saturday and Sunday will remain schedule. So one game Friday one game. Sunday. doubleheader Saturday for the Yankees raise next week. The originally scheduled games between the phillies and the Marlins from this past week that did not happen. As, well as the originally scheduled games for the Yankees and the Orioles because they had some postponements as well. They're going to be rescheduled to a later date. We do not have those currently as we are talking on this recording. So that's going to be something to keep our eye on moving forward. Should another outbreak materialize manfred who has the power to shut down this season? Could move in that direction. He has made the threat I. don't even know if you WANNA call it a threat it's just he's telling the realization to the players association that the season could be shut down. If we are not. Controlling, these outbreaks, multiple players. briefed on Fridays call with Manfred feared the season could have been could be has excuse me could have been shut down as soon as Monday if positive tests jumped or if players continue to just not abide by the League's protocol. So that was sources told to ESPN, as well that tests. Jump like mad. or we're seeing players having issues with this then. Shutdown could becoming but hopefully, things are a little more under control as we talked about how the cardinals believe at least as of right now, they have things kind of locked down. In addition networks that are broadcasting begins have been alerted and told to look at possible alternate programming. After this weekend. So they're trying to get people prepared that if shutdown is coming. TV is prepared. And this was a story that came from Keith Olbermann so. Nobody wants to have it happen liquid bend before Manfred is confident that it won't but they're preparing people for the worst. So it's just something to keep an eye on further. It's just kind of concern about off the field choices. One high ranking official was saying that there are bad decisions that are be being made by players when they are away from the field away from the team way from the game. So it's something that's going to be a watched on. I really am hoping that teams clamp down on this. Whether it be punishments something. They want the season going on many of these players wanted just you don't want a few bad apples to ruin it for the whole batch here. It's just. It's something. That's frustrating as a fan and I'm sure a lot of people share in that frustration in which we see guys finally get a season to happen in some very. Troubling Times, where it's hard have season. That's something also be realistic about to. But if we were GONNA take the risk to try this out. Every everyone has to buy in everyone has to buy in and so. This season is very much on watch treading water. It's going to be the popular phrase moving forward. I'm definitely interested to see what news keeps coming out, but I'm hopefully. Hopefully looking to getting some positive news that's what I really want to end up start seeing. So that's going to be it for this segment and It's it's a bummer of one that's for sure I mean being realistic with all the listeners so. Hopeful fingers crossed knock on wood whatever we need. Make sure that these players realized that they play a big part with their off field decisions. Coming in the next segment, we're going to talk about what what could we expect to see the season has a bunch of questions with the recent covert things that are happening. Looming around going forward, what are some things that could happen? What could be altered in this season? Just, kind of a lot of questions that I still have and I want to make sure that I take the time to talk about that and. Get some information out to you guys, and maybe even some ideas that could potentially change the way the season happens more change more change could be good. So. You're listening to the GMC baseball podcast on the GMC PODCAST network I'm your host, Colin Manley. 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We just got done talking about everything that's been happening in the league with Govan coming from the commissioner having to do with our three teams the Marlins who were hit very heavy phillies who kind of had to take the fallback of everything going on with Miami and the cardinals being another team that we've seen some recent positive tests and cancellations of games will not cancellations postponements because league is still hoping to get those games in hoping that they still happen. Lots of questions trying to get as much information out that we have right now and it made WANNA lead in a talking about. So what can we expect to see this season really has a bunch of questions looming around it going forward just because there's a lot of uncertainty. So we know that there's protocols the League have created to China prepare themselves for getting these games in prepare themselves for when teams have outbreaks just. Trying to be ready for everything that could possibly have come their way. What will we do with teams moving forward? Because we expect I mean at least I do more teams to have potential outbursts between them I. Don't think this is going to be the last. We're going to hear about little flare ups with teams. It's not gonna be the last postponements. We are going to see more of this I. Think it's inevitable. But the size of this may result in many different responses so. Teens that control this well, which is what we're hoping with the cardinals. This is going to be a great example of this with small amounts of positive tests may be able to get away with just roster moves and continue seasons with minor delays. So yeah, we see this one series with the brewers being completely postponed. None of the Games happening well, these Games could be rescheduled for a later date. We could be playing some doubleheaders since its cardinals brewers in there in the same division, they're definitely GonNa see each other quite a few more times. There's potential to fit those games in. This is really the best case scenario. This is where the doubleheaders come to be a value. If quick test comeback with very promising results, the MLB these teams will try to squeeze in the game at least as many as they possibly can. If the cardinals. Hoping in the sense that hey. We got this under control. It's only one player. It's a couple other people in our organization will quarantine them or the away will bring off someone off our emergency squad will be good to go moving forward. That is. This is best case scenario moving forward hoping that the Marlins and the cardinals are the worst of what we see and that it all gets better. With the marlins probably at least it feels right now is the worst I mean their whole roster is just decimated from this, but the cardinals are just going to be one to keep our eye on. The. Big Question that is coming up in my mind though. As these postponements are happening. Is How're we going to look at these teams? If the game totals aren't the same at the end of the season. So playoffs get very easy. In normal circumstances because when it comes down to it, everyone plays one, hundred, sixty, two games. Most cases, different records we know. We go forward with that. Sometimes, that they have the same record, which is rare but it happens. We go ahead or we'll go, into a playoff scenario. Easy enough. But I'm more looking at it as what happens in the scenario if one team ends the season with sixty games played. And another team ends the game with fifty two. What if we have that major? Difference. Is it possible with the postponements and gains being tough to get in squeeze? What can be done if we don't get all these games than we may just have to accept it it's a crazy season. Weird. Things are already happening were trying out new rules all over the place. We might just have to go postseasons here. Sorry. We don't have the same amount of games. It's GONNA have to make us change our focus to most likely my best guess. My best idea for this would be winning percentages for teams moving into the postseason. Now, if it's considerably close, very close like especially two teams in the same division, let's say that the brewers cardinals, this is one is just happening. The cardinals don't end up getting some of these games in against another team because they have more positive tests. And the brewers have a worst winning percentage more games will then maybe we need to go. Head to head with those ones. But. Let's say that we're looking at a team from the NFL central compared to the east. We really don't have any matchup. We won't see them play each other. So we have to come up with an idea when it comes to the seating that we're talking about. We already have sixteen teams making the playoffs that is the big change and shift in this season. Well, if they're not playing each other, we're not going to have like opponents. All we have is winning percentage to go off of this. I think it gets to be a very much of a gray area and very shady. If we just punish one team because they had the outbreaks in the other team didn't. So we say, well, this team played sixty one. So they get the better seed or this game sixty. Sorry and they get the better seat while this one played fifty two. You can't go that route and you gotTa have a plan for this just in case if it doesn't happen. Winning percentage is probably going to be the way that they're going to go. It's GonNa. Burn for fans for sure for sure. I know that if it was me I would hate it. But you really don't have a better option at least I feel of right now maybe think about this comeback with something better maybe it'll be will come up with something. But. That's the way it's looking. Now the shift is not gonNA be a major change in what would end up in playoff teams making it anyway. I least I believe it isn't impossible. It's just kind of the best we got. It will not. HOPEFULLY BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN Safe three teams not making the postseason just because of another team not playing all the Games. Now it's something will understand better when we get there but if we get there. It's just the idea. So head to head play will come into play as well as looking at teams in the same division. Other ways we gotta come up with an idea. It will come to be a part of that record will have to maybe play a playoff game. If it gets too tight, maybe we can get a one on one game right as we go into the playoffs to settle who gets the three, who gets the four it. It's definitely possible but with the time crunch. Trying to get this in as quick as MLB wants to maybe it's not possible. So. Definitely something. I'M GONNA keep my eye on going forward. So the Marlins are another good example of this because they are already going to have a lot of ground to make up. But with the time crunch, they might not have the chance to fit it all in. And if another team comes to this, we're just going to have to accept the alternate way that the. That the outcome happens now it's just treading water treading water. I can understand a team. Also saying, but hey, this messes with our homefield advantage. It's not fair that they're winning percentage is higher playing games. And now maybe we have to play them in the next round because. I agree. The less travel is still a big thing to play for in these playoff games especially in the first round. That team's GonNa be hosting the higher the better seeds going to be hosting all the Games, I understand I, get it the argument and only argument really to come back for this though is say homefield isn't as valuable this season as past seasons with no fans in the stadiums. So at least going forward with that yeah, we get it. We have to travel to play you. Instead of having the home game remember there's no fans. That's not going to be affecting anything so That's just one thing that I've been thinking about wanting to see. I would love for the MLB to Kinda come out and state this right away. Just in case it happens I know they got a lot in their play. A lot of things that they don't know is coming but I it would be great for them to just come out and let the teams know ahead of time. Hey, if we don't get these games in which it's possible. This is how we would settle playoff seeding. Hopefully. Fingers crossed. I. Know I'm asking for a big one there. Another thing and I have this has been a conversation. I've been having with more people because it's prevalent conversation and I need to touch on it again is why don't we do a bubble and is it is it too late for this league to do a bubble and we really talked about this before in a bubble didn't happen in the past it just wasn't realistic for baseball. For baseball season at the beginning the bubble talk it happened with. But the ability of a bubble with MLB never really seen possible compared to these other sporting leagues, NBA? NHL They're having great deals success. PAS Tester down they're not happening in these bubbles I get it. But they don't have as big of a hurdle as the MLB has. To remember that those two leagues are finishing a brief regular season or play in games. And then going right into the playoffs. All the MLB had to figure out a way to get what's considered an entire season in air quotes. On top of postseason. So it just was not the same considering what you were looking at. Players and staff had little to no interest in this going to isolation for a major amount of time and so when the discussion was being made between the players, association and the MLB. It was a mute point. It was not there. It was not going to happen. But now with all the tests coming through and postponements coming through, can these teams shorten it even more and potentially create bubbles? So we have teams from the NFL playing Al and they're having that crossover but I am wondering if divisions can focus around a certain collection of cities and a chance to just limit the player travel. Bubble things the best they can, and maybe let's just see ails teams playing just alias teams. Can we get rid of the Crossover Games and could we bubble this? The short answer is It's possible. But it's really tricky. This late in. So the spring training facilities are an obvious opening thought. Because if you're playing with just your division, you've got five teams more often than not you're gonNA have two games. In a day minimum and one team resting. So four teams playing one team resting each day. I'm guessing that would be the way if they have to shrink this thing down even more. Could we take advantage of those training facilities for Spring Training? That's possible. But we just can't send everybody there. Okay. We can't just send everyone to Florida everyone Arizona and try to get this. We might have to try to locate these things in some towns that are also not that far apart. One idea that comes to me is, can we focus some teams around the Chicago and Milwaukee area? That's three stadiums right there for teams to use. Could we have the NL central on central potentially in the same area even if they're not playing each other and use the white sox cubs, brewers, stadiums that are all relatively close. It's it just gets to a point of if we're GONNA try to bubble something you got to really really be closely located that's by the Orlando thing is great for the NBA. They only need a couple courts. They're right there they have all the hotels baseball situations having big diamonds by each other all the hotels and everything gets to be a little tricky especially when you consider how big the stadiums are. Also, another problem is when these games will be played. If we share these stadiums. The stadium most likely would be used for at least two games in a day. So, how's this cleanup process GonNa go? How are we going to get? Players in the locker room. In. Game Out after the game. Get this place. Cleaned up ready. Locker. Room bullpen dugout everything sanitized down. And then get ready for more teams to come in and then just keep reversing the cycle. Is it possible? Yeah. It's possible but it's going to be problematic especially considering times. And just the potential of all of this happening. That's one hurdle we would have to queer. Another big hurdle is GonNa have to be these TV deals. This was a big part of MLB problem as well. They wanted to make sure they're getting their money from TV deals. These games are getting aired. This will make things complicated if one team is not playing any games in what was considered their original home stadium. So the bubble yes. Is it possible but now we're going to have to figure out that logistic. There's a reason that this didn't happen right away. There's a lot of hurdles and the NBA they had to figure a lot of these things out. The NHL had to figure a lot of these things out. Can it be done? Yes. But if they ended up moving in that direction, there is a lot of stuff that's going to have to be figured out. If there's just one thing I wanNA focus on going forward and I want to see it the most. And touched upon briefly before. I just want these teams to put the clamps. Down? This virus. Is Unpredictable in many ways? I along with many others. No there is no perfect plan to go against this thing. Yes. You can tell me what other leagues are doing. I'm glad it's working. That's awesome. An amazing. But going into it, we didn't know what was going to be best. And with that said careless players. Or heck any other people in the Organization for that matter that are careless. Can Be. What shuts this thing all down. With some of these early issues. I wonder how serious some players may have taken this at the start. Because if any of these rumors are true about players outside of the ballpark. It is very, very sad because. These players were given a choice. The. Is being used. But most of the players that we are seeing use this opt-out? Is Because of health concerns and that is very important. I will never. A player for opting out of this thing because of health. But if you are also a player. That can't handle these conditions that they are putting you in for the season. You may need to consider this opt-out as well. And it's it seems mean it seems harsh but it's just the reality you want that full game pay you fought for as much money as you could possibly get for the season you want this season happen you want this to succeed to limit issues for future seasons. These are questions you have to ask yourself as a player than it is time for you to buy in and do the little things that you can do to make sure the season is not canceled because if you wanted to the casino on the off day. You. Know what? That's a decision you made but that's a decision. You're making to ruin the season for many others and if you can't handle it because you're off, you WanNa go to casino you WanNa go to a bar you want to go to a club. Opt Out. If you can't handle it. Opt Out. It is difficult. For. Sure. I understand. But if I was in their shoes. You have so much to play for this year. Is that the smartest thing to be playing, it might not be. But the Games are happening. The League is trying to put something together to keep it safe so that this can happen. A small bad decision. Could have a ripple effect on like one you could have ever imagined. Teams. Players. Coaches. Whatever your involvement is in the organization. Tighten up. and. Let's make this happen going forward. GonNa, leave it at that. So that's what we have for segment three here on the GS MCC baseball podcast the GMC podcast network. I am your host Colin Manley we're going to get away from the Cova talk a little bit. I know it's harsh hard I don't WanNa talk about it as much. I really don't. I. It's just it's a big part of the league. And so it definitely needs to be talked about. So we're GONNA be diving into studs. That have kind of been duds the season. And I I I'm GonNa give my guys that I think. They're gonNA turn the season around. Don't worry about what you're seeing so far. They're GONNA get there. So we're GONNA take a quick commercial break. and. Then we're going to get into that here on the GMC baseball podcast. Want to know the latest and soccer the listen to the golden state media concepts. Soccer podcast from M. L. S. The world the Premier League we've got you covered the latest update the hottest matches of news on the League's top players, the state media concepts, soccer podcast. Listen. Just. Welcome back to the. See Baseball podcast here on the. podcast network we just got done talking about some more questions and thoughts about what to expect moving forward. With everything happening with covid nineteen in baseball. The season's that up. It's question. We just don't know what to expect really hoping that. We're kind of seeing the worst of it and teams are getting past it and they're kind of getting things controlled as the season moves forward but it was just a lot more information is going to be coming out as we move forward. One step away from that because we want to actually take this time to start talking about things are actually happening in the season and. What's going on for some of our stars and MLB because when it comes down to it this season, we've had a lot of stars that aren't playing very much like stars so It's time for us to really break down some studs who have been duds at least this far start the season we we know that with the pressure of squeezing in a season. It would lead to some struggles in players. We always have players they get off to slow starts in a season that really is nothing new nothing new at all, but we have a large group of top and players that are coming out coal to start our twenty twenty season, and I wanted to take the time to look at ten players. That we expect to see turn this around and now something that I wanna throw it on the front. End. WanNa. Make sure this is known for everyone coming forward I avoided. pitchers at this I. Look if we come back to this later in the season. Guys we think could turn it around will throw in pitchers then but as of right now, there is no pitchers. In this example. I've. Didn't WanNA touch that because I didn't want to talk about. How most starters at this point, they really only have one game under their belt or two games maximum. So it wouldn't be fair to just start breaking these guys down in such a short sample, and then you know when I started thinking about relievers top been closers as well. They really just don't have many innings under their belt. It's hard to completely label season as a dud with such little chance at this opportunity along with relievers just having short work to begin with. So the lead for innings at this point is fourteen innings pitched, and that's by Shane Bieber who's got to starts. Ben The best pitcher in baseball probably so far but that's just such a small sample. So we really have to come back to this one at a future time. Along with some other caveats that we have. Looking forward. So the first one stud, that's kind of been done this probably is. The perfect way to explain his season so far it has to be Christian Yelich. I mean, he's got a point zero. Four three seven sorry point zero, three, seven. Batting average on the season. Twenty seven at bats only one hit to his name an RBI. Twelve strikeouts. He is just struggling to make contact so far this season let alone. It would be such a different story if he was just hitting the ball hard at people, it just seems those screaming line drives that were always coming off his bat just have not been there for yellow. Chen. It's so crazy to think considering the last two years and especially last season he got off to one of the craziest hot starts of his career in that season just exploded for him this. You're not so much now one thing that we've noticed with him, they started the season, the brewers. And Wrigley field in his entire career even with he when he was with the Marlins just does not hit well in Wrigley. So that doesn't help him to begin with but six games in for Christian Yelich. The numbers are just scary bad scary beds scary low. And somehow the brewers are winning without it. It's not really slowing them down as they've started the season off. Doing okay I mean. Three and three second in the NL Central, not putting up a ton of runs in. Games. Really, need yellow getting going because he was that staple coming back that the brewers were they hoped was gonNA, keep their offense rolling even with a revolving door of some players. So Christian Yelich definitely is a guy you don't think is going to stay down. That's swing as just to pretty. He's got such a track record over the last two years of being so good you. Just it's hard to believe that he's going to have such a low bad season. Number to. Another guy last year. got. Off to a hot crazy start. Did very great things for the dodgers would be cody bellinger. Now, the twenty five year old. He's hitting one thirty nine to start the season. He's got eight games played. Five. Hits. And thirty six at bats. One, extra base hit. Only two RB is to his name bellinger did make some changes to his swing. something. Very interesting to notice when you're watching him play. Those changes really aren't seeming to help him out so far. You know the former MVP he's definitely looking to get some things fixed up how is it affecting his team though? Well, not really at all this is a loaded loaded dodgers team. They are sitting the season currently at five and three second in there l.. West. But. Hey Are just the team was so much talent even with bellinger slumping the way he is. Not really slowing them down. More the concerns with the dodgers being on the pitching side just having healthy but bellinger is another stud. We can pretty much expect these I. Think he's going to turn things around. Going forward and the rest of the season I mean that's just too big names and the big names are just going to get bigger as we look at all of these teams that are having player struggle. The next one. Number three stud that's been a dud is really the Koonig Junior. Now a Kuni junior was. Someone I think a lot of people were expecting to just take off the season. He's betting one fifty two so far in the year thirty, three at bats, only five hits two extra base hits two doubles to his name gnome runs no RBI's this season usually batting leadoff understood, but still nothing there only three walks seventeen strikeouts. So striking out half the time struggling struggling struggling at plate and an interesting stat that ended up coming across my way, we'll run on the Kunia at Friday had fifteen strikeouts. On the season seventeen now. That's more than Tony. GWYNN had in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, five when he hit three, sixty eight. So got your shout out to Tony Gwynn who is just amazing with the bad. Just kind of the way baseball is now a strikeouts are happening. And a Kunia striking out quite a bit for the Atlanta braves to start their season. He's a guy they definitely want to turn around because they had some issues with guys decided to sit out the season health their outfield needs. The help is they are five and three second in the NL East right now. Luck we getting some other contributions from guys like dance Swanson's having a good start to a season which. I'm sure that the braves have been hoping and praying to seat. Number Four for studs and duds and I'm going to cheat this one a little bit. I'm. Going to cheat. Call me out on it but. I'm GONNA say one Soto right now in it's just because the guy hasn't flat-out blade, we haven't seen him on the field. And it's something that's hurting this nationals team they need to have him back. Just, get to get cleared to play. Brewers are saying that he's coming back because he's been feeling fine but we need to see Soto get out on the field. Because this nationals team needs a bomb to their offense there three and four on the season. They have the pitching they need the Bat. So again, I said this one's a cheat. This is a stud. He might come out right away and show the study that he is. I'd love to see it because this is the guy that became one of my favorite players to watch when it comes to the Washington nationals because of last year's. postseason. Not. GonNa dive into him too much because let it hasn't played yet. The next one. Stud, who's been kind of a dud. Gt Room. UTAH. Now, this is a big season for J. T. because he's looking to cash in on a big time contract he has his eyes. On what? Is Monte Grande all made. The free market, he has his eyes. On what? Buster? Posey. Has a contract right now, he has the opportunity to get paid. And while it may fluctuate a little bit just because of how. You know. The Cova. Numbers may bring salary down and everything he is struggling through his three games that he has played. So, far this season now, the phillies being shutdown having getting to play a full stretch like everyone else well, and his three games starting at bats only two hits right now, one of them being a home run for strikeouts as well. He's someone that's going to be a big part of this team moving forward especially considering the fact that. The phillies need to have a bounceback season. I mean, they spent a little bit of money only one and two on the season again, only three games in but they spent some money getting dd Gregoria this offseason. They spent money to get Bryce Harper they made the trade for real neutral the trade for Jeans Aguirre they spent money on pitching. I mean, there is just a lot in this team. As they added Zack Wheeler and paid for. Area. Before. They WanNa get things going? So real new. Only, three games in. Needs to get his season rolling when the phillies hopefully get to start games backup. On Monday. Number six. Mister Kris Bryant. He's another big name because contract buzz around with him a lot on the season, and there's also a lot of talks to just trade chatter around him. Potentially being moved on this team. He's batting with a one twenty average so far this year in his six games played he's got twenty five at bats four. Sorry three hits only one extra base hit. One. Double to RBI's three walks ten strikeouts. Got To watch him early in that brewers series were him and Yelich both struggling out of the gates. To make just some solid contact on some pitches it feels like. Could be a name that gets traded and team that looks into potentially even paying him. Well, if he doesn't turn around what's going on for him right now, the odds of that happening are getting lower and lower for Mister Kris Bryant so. He's someone with a lot on the line this season. If he doesn't stand. CHICAGO. That's fine. But you gotta show that you are worth a great trade. Potentially, for you this season. Number seven. This one hurts me this one just flat out. Hurts me because of the fact that. I wanted to have such a great season and Shohei Ohtani. batting-wise things are turning around a little bit. He got off to a slow start. One forty eight on the season two home runs seven RBI's. He's getting there. Things are getting better for Hotan, at the plate. But. The thing that concerns me as well and even though I know I'm not diving pitchers in fully. His first outing on the mound he got. APP -solutely rocked. Absolutely rocked. and. I didn't expect that. Can Save for. Myself. was shocked because that game. WHO was ugly ugly ugly deceased. So I mean. He one game three walks three hits, five runs. He didn't even get through an inning pitch. Need to see him turning around things. Offensively keep going. But on the mound getting things figured out, this guy could be the most exciting player in baseball he really could be. I'm opening gets there I'm believing he's going to get there. He's just too much stuff to be playing like a done s for shirt. Next up is almost another one. That's a little bit of cheating but I don't think it's too much cheating anthony rendering battling an injury early on. Wasn't able to get out in the field right away. Understood but Rando now has four games under his belt and as a guy that cashed in this off season. Because he had a great twenty nineteen season with the nationals while through those four games two hits in twelve at bats one home run seven walks is the one thing that's been going for him discipline at the plate. Ben Great with that only three strikeouts. The guy has a good stick. Just. Struggling to put something really great and play. This as team. Could have one of the greatest. Trios. Of Star Talents. Of studs. Well. We might not see a Lotta trout for a little bit because of the child being born. Otani's turning things around and starting to get a lot more action. We need to see those guys elevate their game. Otherwise, this is going to be a tough season for the angels after they just spent a lot of money to try to get better. Number nine for Stud plan like a Dud, who's we think is going to turn things around. We're GONNA. Go on that Houston Astros tour they've been having a tough time lot of a lot of things going on with the Astros and. Getting some pitches thrown at them and suspensions that might seem a little unfair considering the fact that you know team flow Cheetahs admitted to it. Not Bitter or anything. Bregman is not having a great start to the season. That's seven games played so far. For the third baseman. Twenty eight at bats five hits only three extra base hits. Three of his five. So good for him there five only five walks disciplined in the sense of strikeouts only six strikeouts on the year. Not Getting many hits right now. The offense for the Astros that is their thing. They did lose a pitcher and Garrett Cole Ver- lander. He's got some injuries. We don't know how long he's going to be out could be the whole season were not quite sure that thing is really up in the air right now. ZAC. Cranky. Kind of being their only guy well. Big Time for the Astros offense to show up. But one player and Bregman is kind of having a slow start. It just came off too big losses to the the dodgers as well. Only four and three on the year. That west is going to be sorry LS is going to be more competitive. With Oakland there than you think. That as team is going to give them fits. Hardaway's games early on for the Houston Astros. So bregman. One. Other person needs to turn it around and our tenth in our last one. Stud. Playing a little bit like a dud to start the year. We think he's GonNa get going. One More Astro and WHO's a Jose Altuve? One forty, eight average so far in the season. Seven Games played twenty seven at bats four hits. Of those four hits two extra hits five RBI's six walks eight strikeouts. Again, the numbers don't scream scary when you look at he's getting walks strikeouts aren't overly awful but the guy is just not getting hits right now. On isn't that crazy high. Lot of the same things we said about. The offense really needs to carry in. There's a lot of guys on that offense for Houston that. Are Struggling right now. They have a few guys that are betting well, but in their starting lineup. One twenty one forty, eight, one, seventy, nine, two, hundred, batting average. GotTa get those things up. To kind of combat against the pitching woes that potentially could be coming for the Astros. So, those are ten guys that we have studs playing is done so far hopefully turn things. A lot of guys that I would be confident betting in if you are someone that has these guys any fantasy league, I would not be selling low. Would not be selling low on Christian Yelich cody bellinger. Ronald. Acuna. Juan Soto. Real Mutoko Kris Bryant Otani Rendong Bregman Altuva. Those ten guys but. You're probably sweating a little bit hoping they're playing. And getting those numbers up. Least I, know I would be as fantasy baseball. It stresses me out way too much play fantasy and other sport but baseball just. It stresses me out so I can't get to it too much. So that's going to be it for our last segment here on the MCC baseball podcast I wanNA. Thank you again for listening to the baseball podcast is brought to you by the GMC podcast network like to ask you to please remember. To subscribe to the show right. A Nice review that really helps us out. It's great. 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Feeling Tension

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Feeling Tension

"What's going on everybody? I'm Molly Karen. Rose and you're listening to the first take podcast when it comes to home and auto insurance state farm is the real deal for starters they fit seamlessly into your life easily manager coverage, pay your bill and even file a claim with state farm mobile APP, which was awarded best, insurance mobile APP. Twenty nineteen and they really get to know you. Thanks to a network of nineteen thousand agents. You'll have someone local to talk you through options that fit your personal needs. When you want the real deal like a good neighbor, state farm is there. Speaking of baseball, MLB in the MLB Players Association ended Wednesday at odds again, tempering optimism about a potential return to play deal between the sides. Sources have told ESPN after a four hour negotiation. On Tuesday between commissioner, rob, Manfred and Union Executive Director Tony Clark MLB emerge believing the framework of a deal had been agreed upon however, the players association disagreed without accounting labeling the proposed sixty game schedule as to shore, Max, Kellerman you are up first. How confident are you that this baseball season is going to happen? I'm not confident that it's going to happen. Because I've seen this before baseball, though not under these circumstances, but when I was a kid in one, thousand, nine, hundred one, there was a strike. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, four, there was no world series and baseball. The owners have shown first of all. The Union has shown a resolve that other sports leagues have not, and the owners have shown a kind of stubbornness well that other sports. Leagues Owners have. But if the owners feel, they want, fewer games played. That means it may not be in their financial interests. They feel in the short run to have a season with more games played. There's on ESPN DOT COM right now. This whole when in wear right Tony Clark. When will tell us when we're? We're ready to work. In other words we'll take are pro rated salaries. Tell us where to show up when we start. That's already been negotiated and let's go. We're not signing any waivers. We're not. Not We may be litigation in the future, but when and where and the owners are saying. No, no, no, no, you'll sign this war. Maybe there won't be a season. That's the owners. The players are not saying they need anything new in order to play. It's the owners who are saying. We now need something more in order to pay you. Your pro rated salaries. I think the owners are greedy I think that they're entitled and I think that they are willing to shoot themselves in the foot. And cause irreparable damage to baseball's place in the American entertainment landscape, it's already third culturally really among the major sports behind football and basketball, and but it could always slip. They could sink lower if baseball doesn't have season, it is in big trouble and I. Don't think the owners really appreciate the extent to which that's true. The owners, all of them are greedy I think most of them come across very unethical, and I think at least a third of them. Don't WANNA season because they'll stand to make money the lose money in their eyes, and then the estimation, but I also think that they're not stupid. They recognize that they barely survived and mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa saving the sport of baseball. After the world series was cancelled in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety four day realized how they will WANNA precipice of an absolute abyss. They simply were not going to be able to. To lift themselves out of at that particular moment, Tom or at least in the immediate aftermath remember mark, mcgwire and Sammy Sosa was like nineteen, ninety eight. This was like three or four years later after the cancellation of the world series. So you have to take that into consideration. How long it took them really revitalize this sport if they messed this up at a time when the global pandemic has taken place before I very is with us, recognizing that it's relatively easy to have baseball, because you can literally engage in the sport while also employing social. Social distancing all at the same time because you don't have to be in each other's face, believe it or not the fact that you would allow these dollars and cents to get in the way of the sport continuing. UNMITIGATED disaster the likes. It's insanity. They will not recover from it, and I think most majority of owners are smart enough to know that, and they have the cloud and cash shaded, convinced the third of them to come on board with it. I really think it's that simple for me. Mac already belong a lot. Listen instead of sixty games have the seventy games. Please have the seventy to seventy. Five is just strip because if you really. That's basically what the players are saying, not sixty give us seventy games seventy five games. We gotTA deal. That's all and listen down billion. To. The latest. On the investment of their team and I just want to say quickly I'm a huge baseball fan. It was my first. Love is a team sport. Stephen A. I know you're a huge baseball fan and your father played professionally at a pretty high level as I recall and it was a minor leager, right and. And yet. We don't buy. About it on this show. It's amazing because that was a great team in the fifties Willie mays, but it's not that we don't talk about these folks. We don't love it on this show. It's that such a local sport already. There's not nearly the national interest. In football and basketball and we're talking now. Can you imagine if it gets worse? Oklahoma, State's head coach Mike Gundy received scrutiny from his team when a picture emerged of him wearing an O. A. N. T. shirt. One America news is a conservative cable network. One of its anchors called the black lives matter movement, a farce star, running back to Hubbard called Gundy's t-shirt quote unacceptable, and he said he would not be doing anything with Oklahoma state until quote things change Gundy, has since apologized, and said meetings with his team were eye opening. ESPN was shooting an all access series with Oklahoma state when the story broke and as Gundy and Hubbard about the situation. I didn't know that some of the stances they had taken. I didn't know that. But then you look at it and say okay. I was a dumb ass. I put the shirt not one enough about the shirt. So all the way the players feel about me and upset them and broke their heart. That bothered me more than losing games, and that's the truth, but that's why now that as humans when we make mistakes. The only thing we can do is admit were wrong. Own Up to it. Be Humble. except. Critical. People? Criticism. Make it better and move forward? I heard from. Coach Gandhi later that day we talked. We talked for about two hours. aiming was in here, and he said some stuff and you know I realize. Some people! May Be ignorant in effect, and some people may not understand. You know what's going on or the seriousness of what's going on. And some people need to be educated and whether I can depict. What's going on with him or whatever I'm going to do my best to educate him and do my best to make. Oklahoma state a better program for all athletes. Oklahoma, State Star, running back Tuba Hubbard with us now to, but thank you so much for being with us and I. Applaud You for speaking out. What was on your heart? Let me ask you this. Can you just take us back for a moment? When you initially had senior coach and you saw him wearing that shirt, what was going through your head and your heart at that moment? That led you to speak out. I just like the first start off by thanking you for giving me this platform to. Speak on matters that passionate to me and a lot of other people in. When when I saw that tweet and I saw you know. A lot of emotions were going through my head. As, well as my teammates, and like I said you know I'm a man I can admit when I'm wrong. The way I went about it was not right, but I stand by everything said, and you know I'm not a politician, I don't know anything about any of that, but you know I stand for what's right. And I thought well. What he did wasn't right. To thank you for being on the show to speak out against your coach because he water t shirt, and because of of of what you feel in felt it represented, or did you speak out or was that the final straw per se were there other things that bothered you about how the coach needed to be educated, and this was the final Straw which one was it. Maybe. It's a little bit of both. I feel a lot of people need to be educated including myself and. It's my job to educate myself first, and then to educate people that are educated and I feel that you know a lot of things have happened these last days, and even these last few years, but my job is just the move forward and try to make Oklahoma state. You know a better place. has there been any appeal or appeals to your personal loyalty by coach? Gundy by any administrator by anyone publicly stand with your coach and. Program in this moment. Where I think! People have to get you know. Get it twisted. You know I'm not trying to bash anybody. I'm not trying to belittle anybody I'm not trying to do anything I'm just trying to bring awareness to the injustice has going on in our society and I'm also trying to help kids. Student athletes just like me. Encourage them to use their boys and use their platform because change can happen. But. The reason I ask is because in that original video. You're both standing there. It seems to me that you're the aggrieved party in a larger sense, and it seems like through some conversations. This is just my view of it from from where I was sitting. Maybe coach convinced you or someone convinced you that. In fact coach was the aggrieved party because he didn't apologize, but you did so I was wondering what that process was like. Did he reach out to you? Did you reach out to him? Did someone else and what was said? I understand you don't want to betray loyalty, but what was said? More or less in that situation. We had long conversations, and obviously that video came out a lot of people thought. Everything's good now and that's not the case. It's a work in progress, but I wanted that video to be a first step showing that. He understands what he did wrong and he needs to move, and if not then. There's consequences for those things, and that's the main thing I want to come out of that video. You know apologized. But go ahead I'm sorry I thought you finish not thought you finish finish finish, appoint go ahead. I'm sorry. Like I said I'm a man, and I always own up. For what I did and like I, said I felt. About it the wrong way and I thought that you know people need to know that, but I stand by everything I said. Well you stand by everything you said, and what his his way I can I come back to my same questions about my van. Gundy, rather because you're rest of over two thousand last season, you lead the. And Russia, and obviously you don't elite running back. He considered one of the best in the business right now. You could have went to the NFL draft. You basically announced that you were going to stay at school, and then months later win. This goes down. You basically gave indications. You Ain't coming back unless you know. This is addressed because it's something that you're not going to tolerate I guess what everyone wants to know is what are we to make of coach? Gundy and how the players feel felt about him prior to all of this, that's what people are trying to find out right now. Can you provide some insight into the kind of man? We know he's a good coach is one sixty six percents of his games, but as a man. What? How do you guys feel about him as a person even before all of this? Well! I say you know I can't answer for other people. You know my teammates. Everyone feels differently. Obey him you. and. I can't answer them for me. Me Coach Ghandi's relationship. It's a work in progress. He's made to his faults in. He's trying to move forward and me. You know I see that as a positive I. Was a word is sorry. This was a work in progress before this I'm sorry, Molly. To? Head Gun. You can go I mean. There's one question to I wanted to get to here. Sorry, we're dealing with a bit of delays and we're interrupting you I appreciate your patience, but I I want get this done because it's a story just surfaced and I'm going to read it to you because I don't WanNa, get any of the words wrong in in such a sensitive subject and old allegation against Mike Gundy surface Wednesday when in a radio interview Alfred Williams, a former star linebacker at Colorado said when Gundy was the Oklahoma State quarterback in one, thousand, nine, hundred and nine. He called Williams. The N. Word at the time denied the allegation. W-WHAT, do you make of those type of situations? Situations like those are. And, you know. I'm going to ninety nine, so I personally can't comment on something that you know I don't have any information on I believe you know the people that were there. Know the truth, and and that's the most important. Point thing. So when coach Gundy speaks, and he displays the level of contrition. That he appears to have displayed. Is that enough for you guys moving forward? What's the mentality of the tea right now? I know you can speak yourself. Kiss me the guys, but they all your teammates. Sure you've smoking to them as well. You're clearly not standing alone because you went into auditory at that particular moment of time more room, or what have you and everybody was there? What's the mentality of the team right now? About coach Gundy as we speak? Change. We need change. That's the biggest thing you know. There's a lot of people on our team that are passionate about the same things. I'm passionate about and you know. The thing about our team. That's so special where one where we're tightly knitted, and we have great chemistry, and we all want the same thing, and that's know to have a better experience for blacks wack athletes, and really all athletes at Oklahoma state so. You make you know relationships, aren't you? I got to be specific here. When you say change, we not change that you're calling from a societal perspective, but you're saying change within that program. Is that what you're talking about these to be made? Absolutely. Just bettering the experience for a black student, athlete. I want I want athletes to be able to come in through Oklahoma state, and really every university, and be proud to go through there and say you know I'm a black student. Alkyl Oklahoma state representing me well I represented them well. Okay, so there's a follow up to that. And then I have another question, but they're related. The follow up is in what specific way do you want things to change? Oklahoma state, but before all this happened, and what's the overlap with? The question is what was your relationship like with coach Gundy before this happened because what we're trying to figure out for better for worse. What's in the GUY's heart? What's most important is the way people behave, but given what he said, and what he represented and the shirt he wore etc. People trying to figure out what does he really about? So? So, what specific ways would you like to university to change to make the experience better for African American student athletes? And what was your thought about coach Gundy relationship like before this happened? You know I won't go. You know complete specifics on exactly what we want change as a team, but I'll say this. You know like I said. We want a better experience for black student athletes. We want to encourage people to use the worse and use their platform for good, and that's the biggest thing. And to speak on your second question with you know what my relationship with coach. Gandhi was before. It was also a work in progress. Every relationship has bumpy roads whether it's a good relationship or bad relationship and. Coach Gandhi has done a lot of good things, so our not just shut out a man for one thing he did. He did do wrong and he's going to have to make up for the. Two you have a wisdom well beyond your years one last question here because I know you. Spoke about other college students? What message would you have not just for other student athletes, but students in general that want to speak out on these issues that are bothering them. What would you like to say to them? To be brave, and to be proud and be strong, you know. I realized speaking out. There's a lot of people behind me. Back me up and that are with me for the same reason and the biggest thing is just use your voice. Your platforms powerful. No matter if you know you're all American, no matter if you're walking no matter who you are even if you're just. A person that goes to university, just a regular student use your voice as powerful as the most powerful weapon. I. Just want everybody to know that you know. Do what's right and I always believe in you know. Believe in your core values. You know what gets you up every so? To thank you so much. I really appreciate you joining us this morning. So many words of wisdom all the best to you moving forward here and I hope we get to see some of this change in this real action happens soon. Guy Goes offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of GYCO could already save you. So what are you waiting for your teenager to help around the house? Okay on I empty. The dishwasher vacuum the basement and folded the sheets out of the dryer. What Oh in next I'M GONNA clean. Mittens litterbox. Are we in some kind of prank, show or something? That's a camera, isn't it? There's never been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent. When you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT. com for details. Welcome back into I. Take here with Mexico Stephen a Smith before we get into our next debate. Here will bring dinner Lonski in just a moment. Stephen I know you had something you wanted to address. Max and Molly I was watching Cuba's spectacular young kid incredibly poised and composed and You know was really really smart as well and I applaud him for that, but I asked that question for reason as it pertains to whether or not it was the last straw, or whether or not, this was just an isolated situation. You look at his answers and the things that he said clearly it was not a good day for coach Gundy at Oklahoma State. You clearly have some issues with in that program that are resonating with players and have been resonating with players. Players what I deduced from listening to that kid. was that this several issues and we've had many many kids. Come on this show and talk about their program okay. Lsu. Alabama Ohio state ambience have y'all ever heard any college kid come on a program and is correct as politically correct this smart and it was not abrasive as he was. I've always heard coaches spoken about glowingly, not in this particular case coach Gundy's got some issues down at Oklahoma State and listened to Paul Bombs. Guys like that. They need to look into that. Some some does not right there. That's what I got Steven. Steven when he and I asked him about as a follow up to your question, about which we like things to improve for African American student athletes. He wouldn't get specific, but it sounded to me like there was overlap with that and coach, Gundy. No question and Stephen Eight a piggyback on that I. Know I told you in the commercial break, but Chubu I thought was beyond impressive how he handled that interview at just twenty one years old, and the question you asked was phenomenal. It wasn't just about the t shirt. You said this a last straw in terms of other factors, and he said yes, in that that was telling. Me, just that little piece without him, personally indicting anyone, so he was so excellent and I. Wish Him all the best and I hope we do get to see some real action there at that program, guys, let's continue on here. Next to? Yeah, no question Debate here regarding Lamar Jackson so the Ravens quarterback had some very interesting things to say about his team's playoff loss to the titans last season Tennessee down the top-seeded Ravens Twenty eight to twelve to advance to the AFC championship, looking ahead to twenty twenty. Here's with Jackson told complexes load management podcast quote. We're taking it one game at a time, not peaking ahead. That's what happened in the playoffs and we ended up losing to the team. People had US favorite over its any given Sunday. You can't underestimate no team. No opponent in that's what we did dinner lofty back with us now. Max I'll start with you here. How concerned are you about playoff Lamar Jackson I am concerned. Let me start by saying. This Lamar Jackson's a great player. He's already a great player and considering his age, he's actually very accurate passer, what he just turned twenty three years old. He's been the most accurate passer to this point in his career, basically in the history of football think about that that guys like Peyton, manning and others who? Came into the League by the way, not even as young as Lamar Jackson so so it's not that I. Don't think he can do it. I believe he can do it. He's already admitted to psychology affecting the Ravens play when he said they look past the titans, he says you know we have to learn not to Pique the head that means that the circumstances the psychological effects of playing. They're actually affected how they played on the field now I lamar, Jackson, it is I play off a periods appears. He's like the worst thing you ever saw, but his learning curve is so like he he adapts so. So quickly that by the end of that game he was like a different player, already one game, a twenty one year old, and he was already looked like a different player. He got better faster than that game, but he started from a terrible point now last seen against the titans. He wasn't awful. Guys Miss. The passes wasn't awful. Put was up to his normal standard. He answers no. He wasn't as good as he normally was so. When, you ask these things, are you concerned about a guy? You really are trying to kind of chart the trajectory and think well if he's doing this at this point in his career, and you start to look for cops, guys who also young and we're that took them or similar kind of players. You expect. Wow. He's really going to improve this upcoming season and the next season. He learned from these things and he'll be fine. You can't just assume that stuff you can make a prediction. I think he'll be fine, but you can't assume it. I have enough concern based on the fall off of his and his team's play so far in the playoffs in consecutive years that if I sat here and said I'm not concerned with playoff Lamar I'd be lying. Well for me. I'm not concerned about it because I think he's electrifying in terms of his running ability in his playmaking ability, and I think that resonates profoundly I don't view Lamar Jackson as an elite passer and I don't think he has to be an elite passer in order to deliver the good for the Baltimore Ravens because we've seen how a joy John or is utilizing him in a multitude of areas that May. May that allows you to offset that to some degree. That's my thinking about it along those lines, certainly when I think about the AFC I think about Kansas City as being the elite squad. You gotTa be pay attention to pitch pro because big. Ben Rothlisberger is coming back. We don't expect the same things from New England because Tom Brady isn't. We don't expect the same things from Houston because the Shawn. Watson isn't there. Because show I try not to Shawn. Watson the Andre. Hopkins isn't any longer and so when we look at the rest of the AFC Even though you have good teams that can beat a lot of these teams. The reality is you're looking at Baltimore. You're saying they're probably the second best team in the AFC I look Lamar Jackson and I. Don't see that being derailed in any way. He did not perform well He. He performed absolutely abysmally against San Diego who were the Los Angeles chargers and the first playoff game that he had last year for those first three quarters and a half he got awful last year he could only produce six points against for the first three quarters before they scored in the final quarter as well so he's got some work in He's got some developing the do and all of this other stuff, but. He is known as an elite athlete and then Lee run with the football and an absolutely positive game changer I. Don't expect that to dissipate in any way if the Baltimore Ravens Struggle. I don't think it will be because of him I. Think it will be because other guys didn't step up just like they weren't ready to step up against Tennessee I. Don't think it'd be because of him because I. Think what you see is what you get a guy that's going to incrementally improve as a passer, but ultimately his bones are going to be made by running that football and moving those change and scaring the living hell out of defenses because he's such an electrifying athlete. That's how I view him. I don't really have any concerns about Lamar, Jackson when it comes to the playoffs now. Is it a conversation? Absolutely I mean he was so good the back end of his first season, and then last year that we are now going to put him in a very kind of small box with our. We don't really we want to watch what you do in the regular season. Because you're mazing, but now it's going to be about how you perform. Perform in the postseason. That sounds good. The beginning of his career has been I. WanNa go back to last year because we do need to put context on that game against the Tennessee Titans. We've talked about a little bit. You guys have both mentioned, but first of all they went down fourteen nothing. The Ravens went down fourteen nothing within like quarter. That team style wise is not built to play from behind. They are built to get up. Up seven nothing or ten three and just allow that exclusive offense and run game two pound you away, so then going down fourteen nothing nothing to do with Moammar their first drive of the game they go right down the field, and he hits Mark Andrews with the ball, and not a great girl, but it goes off. His hands intercepted second of all. They had four drops like that obviously is a big deal in any game. Let alone. Alone the playoffs Mark Ingram was hurt. He was coming off of that calf injury. So they're they're run. Game was par, and then Derek had like two hundred yards rushing, so they did not lose that playoff game because of Lamar Jackson they left that playoff game because of all the people and pieces around the mark. Jackson, so that's why I don't have concerns about him. Also this team. This organization draft develops very well. I mean this is. One of the few teams in the NFL organization, wise that you can no year in year out since their inception. They've been a really good organization, so he's going to have so many opportunities. It's also important to point out like peyton manning and drew brees Rogers they win their first playoff game until their sixth season, lamarcus had his first year a starter, and so I have zero concerns I actually think Max you know him admitting that they were somewhat looking ahead I. Think is a great sign of. It's a great sign of development for Hindi. Learning Process for me. It was the reason. I use that as evidence for why I am concerned. Again I think he can do it I think he will do it, but I am concerned. Is that what it indicates is that the psychological circumstances really have an effect on him? He's admitting it. Maybe they have an effect on everyone who's admitted, but what happens if next year also there's a bump in the road at teammate drops the ball. Something happens. They run into a juggernaut whatever happens and he doesn't win in the playoffs again and now it's Lamar like the stories get bigger and bigger, and it's not just him. It's it's a team sport. It's also his teammates now he. He is so young that those things can be addressed, but so far and your. He didn't blast. I mentioned off the top of the play that bad in this last playoff, not like the first one and even in that game he got better quickly in the second half. It was amazing for twenty one or twenty two year old at the time, so it's not so much that he can't do it or that. It's all on him. It's that it becomes a story. And then how does it affect them? Because what we say is, he's not as good as he's normally been in the playoffs so far, and he needs to elevate to lead his team. And that's. Regular. You've got miles around. You've got Boykin. You've got Mark Andrews and people like that I mean they've got some quality players, but there's no superstar definitive one individual rely upon he is that guy and so of the Baltimore? Ravens, you're going to have to make sure he has the requisite assistance necessary. If you look at their draft, if you look at some of the people, they've added in the off season. Season you see a team. There recognize the fact that they dropped the ball defensively, and they're determined not to make sure that they get smacked around this time the way that they did last time against the Tennessee. Titans because Dan is right the four drop chest, but more importantly they went into a fourteen o whole, and that's not how they've built, but in the end let's face reality we don't expect. Expect Lamar Jackson the be as good as Patrick mahomes throwing the football. We don't even expect them to be as good as the Shawn Watson throwing the football, and so when you look at it from that perspective, what are you expecting from him to move to change to scare the living? Hell out of defenses to make sure you compromise defense having people to stay home and spy on him because of. Of his ability to run the football, we also got to pay attention to mark Ingram and what you're going to get out of him as well. All of those things are question marks, and the fact that you have those question marks about so many things evolve in the Baltimore Ravens Ravens re literally means taking some of the heat off of him, we expect Baltimore to be in the postseason we. Out of the top two or three teams in the AFC is well here. They don't then you've come up short but I. Don't think anybody expects that from Steven. Steven am Dan if it's not my point is this and I know it's a different sport, and it's not the same thing, but like James. Harden is still an all star in the playoffs, but he's an MVP in the regular season, and the reason is team hasn't won a championship when they needed him to be an MVP in the playoffs. He hasn't been so Lamar Jackson. MVP AND And the regular season he has to be more sometimes than an all star in the playoffs. His teammates need that kind of leadership. He needs to do, and so that's where I start to not say. He killed whether he won't do it. But are my antenna up a little rock. They are concerned. Yeah, but but but but but my heart is has been in the NBA for. Lamar Jackson is in the shorter sees. Sure and it's fair that it's a conversation. But there's no evidence like if he had a poor performance this past year, we're probably having a little different different vantage point, and that's why it's fair that it's a conversation I would say this. I the question for me with the Mark Jackson. Will perform in the playoffs it's it's when you're not at your best. which what? He was not individually ender football team against the titans last year when you're not at your best, can you still find a way to do something above all means to win that game because that's what the great quarterbacks do when they have their see game, or they need to go score forty against somebody, because their defense stinks, or they do have the four or five drugs. Are you good enough? Are you great enough to overcome all that stuff and that's when you enter different. And that's. Probably, the one thing I'll look at Lamar back into the season into the playoffs next year. That's fair and I'll just wrap with this. I know he didn't play his best. But Lamar Jackson did produce over five hundred total yards in that loss to the titans that was the highest output by any quarterback in the playoffs, so it's not like he was a deer in headlights like that earlier against the San Diego chargers now. Dan Thank V was. He was not Jimmy Garoppolo. You love your, Jimmy. I got shot in their man. Show Up. In September of two thousand, seventeen, just over a year after Colin. Kaepernick began kneeling during the national anthem as a form of protest against police brutality, racial injustice Donald Trump called on owners to fire players. WHO WON'T STAND FOR THE ANTHEM YESTERDAY? He was asked. If kapernick should get another shot in the NFL. Colin Kaepernick should another shot in the NFL if he deserves it, he should if he has the playing ability is playing wasn't up to snuff. The answer is absolutely I would as far as kneeling I would love to get another shot, but obviously as to be able to play well if he can't play well I think it would be very unfair. Stephanie did the president's comments put pressure on NFL owners to now sign cabinet. I Say I think it does certainly because we know that his comments and the uproar that he caused when he called the play his sons a bitches a few years ago is what led to them, ultimately doing what they did in terms of ostracizing him. Let's remind our audience here. The president hijacked the narrative. He made something about police. Brutality, racial oppression, and quality into something about patriotism and American flag his constituency and others, Hook Line and sinker and. And as a result, they threaten to compromise the bottom line of NFL. Owners who certainly didn't want to deal with that reality. And they said Colin captain who, by the way had lost the starting job because he was injured. primarily the Blaine Gabbert wasn't somebody that they deemed worthy worth the risk of bringing him back into the league and they ostracize them. They blackballed him. It's just that simple. And they hid behind trump as the excuse, and so now that. That the president is saying what he is saying about Colin Kaepernick, as it pertains to him being deserving of getting another chance in the league. You can question his intent. All you want to I. Know I do in terms of why he saying that particularly when you're looking for votes, come November, but in the end regardless what way you slice it. He said what he said on the record that he has said it, and it's further evidence the it's. It's rather it's an additional excuse gets wiped away, shrugged away as an impediment to Colin Cap and return to the NFL NFL owners, running out of excuses of ostracizing and blackballing him the way that they did, and so now we've seen evidence from that because Anthony Land head coach for the Los. Angeles charges has said he will work out Colin Kaepernick. He said this crazy for colic cabinet, not to be on anybody's workout list if Colin Kaepernick Kim Ball. And clearly he doesn't have to be a starter. He can be a backup oil. He could be a started depending on which team wants them and what they have available to them. There's not gonna be any excuse available for these owners to keep him out of the League. Because black. Folks, watch, football, too. We pay to patronize the NFL brand, and obviously, if you take this kind of course of action, particularly with the president on the record, saying that he doesn't mind back in the league. You really really don't have an excuse. If you're an owner not to say, you ever had an excuse in the first place. How do you know a politician is lying Stephen? Their lips are moving. I mean the goal is for politicians. Lips Theft. Goes for politicians broadly book particularly for politicians who don't seem to have any core value except winning except ego protection. Let's look at why trump is saying this now after his sob, comment pressurized the owners to keep capper. Nick Adamo League in the first place in my view, knock what they needed, much crush or help, but but the owners point of view then and trump's point of view, then was at a time when twenty something percent of Americans supported the players protest. Now what's happened for years later after witnessing? After a global pandemic after. Up. People unrest at the very least after the disastrous handling of a pandemic and an economy in freefall. After the video of George Scott for everyone to see after four years of scandal and impeachment etcetera. The over fifty percent over fifty percent. That's the majority of Americans. Now favor the players protest. It's hard not to write happening and says hey I wanNA respectfully kneel before the flag because. Cops are brutalizing us and everyone's out. Don't be ridiculous. Things are good right now. Things underneath aren't so good, and now we have the video of a man being murdered in cold blood in unambiguous way. And now all the sudden from twenty something we have over fifty percent, and now trump says well sure if he's good enough to play, let them play by the way. It's a lot harder to be good enough to play after four years of inactivity obviously. But also. Ah Politicians. Lips are moving here is the agenda is simply. To have sick personal success, and and the idea that there's any kind of core belief about capper, nick, one way or another. That's not simply politically expedient i. don't see it. Well, let's be let's cut to the chase here again. I'll say for you. The Democrats recognize the fact that they need to black vote in order to win an election That's the wasp position to take, and it's not beyond the realm of comprehension. This particular administration believes it made need to black vote to win the election as well and so when you take that into consideration and you. Can you see where the momentum has? What the magic built it's inescapable. It's inescapable to the fact that again you know. What if I say something that I'm receptive to it? You know what they're not gonNA be able to hold it against me. Come election time. Listen like you said Max you said. said it best. How do you know politicians line or whatever the case may be because their lips are moving i? Get all of that. There's certain one can certainly deduce that there's a personal agenda or what is perceived as being a personal benefit, but that's not really the subject here. The subject is the incentive in the motivation, or actually that the ascended up, but how the NFL owners and how the NFL can react now. Donald Trump has taken the position that he has taken. Even my position is that he's eradicated the excuse yet. Another excuse that the NFL owners can use to keep Colin capital out of the National Football League. Assuming he can still ball which we all believe he can. Get to answer the question directly. Yes, it does pressure NFL owners, or at least it takes the handcuffs off those who? Maybe, wanted to give capper nickel look, but to your point about the black vote. You get over fifty percent now from twenty something percent. Then that's the white vote. It's white people's minds who are changing and I believe that who? Trump is talking to. I'll just leave you with this at Colin. Kaepernick has joined the board of the platform the medium. He's also going to start an interview series where he's going to interview athletes and activists. It's tentatively called Conversations with Colin so. It'll be interesting to see I know we haven't heard from him. Speak publicly, but we'll get to see it through this platform the medium. Before the break, I had mentioned that he's joining the board of the platform. The medium and he is going to conduct an interview series with athletes and activists. It's tentatively called Conversations with Colin Stephen Your reaction. I love it. But I want to be mindful and fair to the NFL. Disregard I don't give a damn who you are. What cachet you have. When you play the quarterback position, they ought fixated on you. Being focused on football I'm talking about in terms of instead of moonlighting with other jobs anything that takes time and attention away from your responsibilities as a quarterback the NFL. Is Dog it about being averse to that? Why black or otherwise that's the one thing is. Is Much as we abhor it. The NFL has consistently throughout. The decades had a problem with no matter who it was, so let's be mindful of that when we talk about Colin Cabinet is beautiful, the thought of him talking to other athletes and activists. That's a marvelous thing, but just awful. If that complaint comes up that they're going to be about what happened to Colin Cabinet in the past data about the NFL being the NFL. Let's remember that. Meantime, you know what caught my eyes Stephen a tweet by Tom. A stroh, who was a colleague of ours formerly here ESPN now at NBC sports who tweeted about the WHO the World Health Organization has their guidance is. Government shouldn't reopen if the positive test rate for covid nineteen is over five percent. Should stay under five percent for two straight weeks before you reopen, well He. The last week of testing in in Florida where the NBA plans on reopening, and that county has only been under five percent once, and that was four point nine percent in the last week, and it steadily rising yesterday it was almost twelve percent, so does the NBA stay in Orlando. Does it look for other sites? This is going to be a developing story. Over the next several days. MOLLY MASS! Keep this in mind, and just about the NFL personnel. What about the networks I mean? If I remember correctly. They were talking about not going there until the conference finals. WHAT ABOUT ESPN? What about ABC Al Fisher. Thing guys I want to add. This is some breaking news? University of Texas has just announced I. Just saw this wire across my computer. They've announced thirteen football players on their team have confirmed positive for Covid nineteen so unfortunate news wish them a speedy recovery. They're. A lot to unpack in a lot that we will dive in right here on I take for Max Kellerman Steven Naismith I'm Ali. Kerim rose and I just WANNA. Say once again. How impressive! Tuba Hubbard is I know that interview will be up on our ESPN site. We'll also have it on our first. Take Instagram, but he really did a phenomenal job, and it was a very telling interview about Oklahoma state in their program. Thanks guys.

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The Legend of Alejandro Kirk

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

36:38 min | 11 months ago

The Legend of Alejandro Kirk

"Baseball tonight, the PODCAST is the baseball tonight podcast for Tuesday September Twenty Second Two thousand twenty producing from his home studio. In the Foothills Connecticut is Taylor Schwenk I'm buster only working mild studio in new. York. We start with the news and notes for today Major, League Baseball, and the MLB Players Association committed ten million dollars to help fund programs from the players Alliance, which is made up of more than one hundred active and former MLB players aim to increase black American participation in all levels of the game. The quote for former outfielder, Curtis Granderson, the president, the players. Alliance goes along the lines of this as the stark racial minority in all aspects of our gain. The players alliance is giving a voice and platform to our black players unified and our stance against systematic racism more details are out on the postseason rules higher seating in not won loss record in the regular season will determine the home team in the world series. So you could have a situation where, for example, the San Diego padres have the best record of all remaining teams but because they're likely to be the to cede now in the National League, they would fall behind. Any number, one seat from the American, League that specification was contained in the July twenty, third agreement between Major League Baseball, and the players association, the Colorado Rockies Chase after a flickering playoff spot without all-star third baseman Nolan are not oh, who's placed on the injured list with a sore shoulder He spoke with reporters after this news came out and basically said, you know it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the future I would not at all be surprised if he winds up being a guy talked about as a salary dump in his off season. When there's going to be a massive change and baseball's financial landscape there was a lot of speculation last winter about the cardinals we'll be talking with David showing field at that coming up Cole Hamels wanted done for the Atlanta braves after making just one start for the braves Hamels reportedly began to feel discomfort in his shoulder and he felt like he didn't get anything on the ball in that one brief appearance he had the braves played the Marlins last night trying to hold off Miami for the top spot in the National League East and Austin Riley came through. To, pitch, hit down the right field line. That's A. On a roll, all the way to the corner one run is in and duval here comes ozzy all these they just now hit the cut off man and that's a to rb I ringing double out of Austin. Riley. And the braves had the lead. Thanks to big. Austin. Three. That from six eighty, the fan braves a win that game five to four the raise in the mets Jacob degrom on amount of the mets he was spectacular fourteen strikeouts in seven innings but the raise did just enough damage against him. And swinging to try it two straight away centerfield hit. Well, going back his heredia to the wall it's gone homerun. May. The Solo homer off the ground in the race take a tuna lead. At from six twenty wd, a final score was two to one Jacob degrom coming down the stretch as one of the prime candidates for the national. League Cy Young. Award. We're GONNA be talking about that with Dave and with Paul and Bikinis the cubs in the pirates and we saw how much offense is struggling on Sunday night baseball cows Schwab over who was pulled from the Sunday night game for not hustling after a ball in the corner came to the plate and a big spot in the top of the eighth, swinging a drive toward right center field and in the yelling basit that bounces off the wall one runners in. Paris rounding third getting the green light he'll score two run double pile whoever cubs four nothing. Pat Hughes and the cubs radio network. The cubs win that game five to nothing. Now, during the game Chris Bryant had to leave because of right oblique tightness he's dated for now although David Ross acknowledged to reporters he's worried about the injury, Alejandro Kirk a top ten Jays prospect started against the Yankees in Buffalo last night and man, he crushed it. Shoots. It past a diving void in the right field obey said. Bench that he likes to hit the ball that way and avoid though for, but his past him into right field. Apple rest look this smokes of all down the left field line. It's a fair ball. He's on his way to second base with his second hit of the night. His first big league extra base hit as a double. He hits this ball to right field and he said, well, it's. It'll be a long single for Kirk who's three for three and just missed his first big league homerun. Fly Ball towards the right field corner. David. Smile round. This time what nine four. Landreau bird. Yeah four hits you heard Dan showman buck. Martinez. On the Jay's television network. He is a really really interesting looking player at age twenty, one and so we're going to be talking about him coming up before the game. The Jay's got bad news about Ken Giles. He's GonNa Need Tommy John Surgery the Red Smith a net surge facing the Milwaukee brewers might stock is came through against his former team, the pitch and Mustafa's drives one deep right Field Peterson back at the Law God The Sharman bears glove over the right field fence a three run home run for Mike Moose Dacas, the reds have blown it open it six six to one. At from seven hundred wwl w final score, there was six to three the Indians in white sox Carlos Santana getting a big hit for Cleveland to. S Swan launched high in the air to laughs headed to the bleacher is all run Carlos Santana. Are Front six four final score there would be seven to four that from wt am eleven hundred Clinton American League West last night even while they were idle because the Astros lost their game and one other note Andrew Miller made his fourteenth, the parents of the season yesterday's cardinals victory, and in doing. 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That's code bt only draftkings make it rain minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show the show. Show. Show. Welcome to the show maybe you're in the show with TV show. David. Bill covers baseball for ESPN and that means today Dave talking about the legend of all a hundred kirk man that was fun to watch last night. Our. Listeners if you haven't seen the highlights pause this podcast call up the Blue Jays highlights from last night in to see something like you've never seen before it's. If, you can imagine a shorter maybe larger Pablo Sandoval plan catcher and going four for four and hitting home runs. I mean unbelievable. He's listed five eight to sixty five physically reminds me we you know you're trying to come up with the copper there were Sandoval Mike. was maybe being older Benjie Molina not young. But Older Benjie Molina and you could see the way runs. He's not ever going to be the Swiss guy. But part of the reason why I mean forget the you know the size and the shape. See Guy he's a right handed hitter. You do not see hitters in two, thousand, twenty hit the ball to right field away. He does that was I think. It's were to right field right including the home. Look. It's a he's a remarkable story for starters what he's only twenty one yet. Yes. Played above class say he can hit the bat looks legit. He walked more than he struck out in the minors last year and yeah, the Blue Jays have gotten dope production from their catchers this year. So can he play in the play offs I dunno buster yes. I mean you know who knows when we actually get there but you know when we reach this time of year teams, they don't really care what's in the back your baseball card they they don't really care when you were drafted or you know how much money they paid you. They only WANNA know if you're getting results, this is someone signed in two thousand sixteen out of Tijuana Mexico. As an amateur free agent and you know and I know teams are not going to be calling up catchers at age twenty one unless they wanna take a look you know typically catchers reached the Big Leagues Twenty three, twenty, four, twenty, five the fact that he's reached the Big Leagues at this age tells you the Blue Jays are intrigued by his offensive talents 'cause man just I again I you know not many times you see a player who just consistently looks like he hits the ball. The Right Field Buck Martinez talked about that on the broadcast last night you know and I'm not GonNa Param obviously to Derek jeter. But among in the time I've covered baseball jeter was one of those guys that covered Tony Gwynn. He was one of those guys who actually work to take the ball the other way, and so to see a guy at twenty one in the amid generation launch angle driving the ball, the opposite field that that got my attention. Yeah. No, that's a really good point and. And as a Catcher, even if the backs ready, he's gotta be at least competent behind the plate. You know you need to have a a catcher who could work with your staff and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm looking at the numbers here Blue Jays. Catchers one, sixty three. With is for it game so they've got no production there. It's a little bit of a roll roll, the dice but what you have the lose, he's GonNa he's look the bodies. Funny. Luck in. We get that it's going to be working against them. But if he's the real deal, you add him too that next with the shedded video guerrero just looks like another potential young piece of that core in I love those late season. August-september. Promotions that are difference making and I grew up a dodger fan. So nine, thousand, nine, hundred eighty, they called up reliever initially getting Fernando Valenzuela like, wow, look at that. He turned out to be pretty good and of course, Francisco Rodriguez being one of the great examples from two thousand three. So this guy demonstrates that he's going to be upgrade and offense and let's face it I. I think within two years There's not gonna be any concern about. Maybe some of the defensive issues that he may not have because you might have an electronic strikes on they may have the perfect catcher going into the future, a guy who just rakes. Look. We're probably going to get the electronics strike zone I don't know I'm not in favor of that aspect of catching going to become less important on his Co. I'm looking at his caught stealing rate last year in the minors was thirty eight percent. That's pretty good. So maybe he does have a decent are, which is all you're really going to be looking for now from a catcher shortly can you hit because right now a lot of catchers cannot yet. and. You're exactly right for the listeners if you haven't seen him go and find video and MLB DOT COM Alejandro. Kirke. Was it was a remarkable performance? He's unlike any other player you've watched before yesterday tweeted out that the reds are dangerous and of course, on social media, you're GonNa get responses and somebody came back at me and said, isn't everyone dangerous in this format and I acknowledge the point? Yes. When the the number eight seed is facing the number one seat in a best at three everybody's dangerous. But the reds went again last night they continue their surge what do you think? Yeah no doubt. We were saying all along when they were five or six games under five hundred. This is that one mediocre team in the NFL that if they get hot, you don't WanNa face them. You know and that's what we're seeing. Now one, eight, hundred, nine you know what? They're the number seven seat at the moment. But yeah, you're right. The dodgers do not want to face Trevor Bauer. Louise Castio in sunny graves is hurt right now but I, think supposed to come back this week do not want to face those three guys in the playoffs and I get it. The reds their bottom of the barrel and offense only scored four runs a game, but they don't need to score runs with that rotation. So yesterday, we had Tim Kirk on the podcast and he revealed that he is a voter for National League Cy Young. Award, and I could just imagine him sitting at home last night thinking great another day goes off the board and I still don't have any clarity about who's going to win the award Jacob degrom pitches great seven and he's fourteen strikeouts, but the mets lose So so it's not like he jumped up and grabbed this award by the throat where do you stand as of this morning in terms of who do you think should win this award? I you know it's willow things you really are going to have to dig deep into the numbers look at who they faced. You know the quality of competition I watched degrom. Last night may kind of one mistake in the middle lanes to tonight low for the go ahead home run. Yeah, racked up fourteen days. You Darvish was right there. He had gave up four runs the other night that kind of knocked him out. I still kinda go to grab because I think. In part. I know it's not fair to say his history helps them out but he's proven that this is how pitcher is your open orbin burns again are you buying fifty innings? He's been unbelievable. I think he leads the NFL ER A. Max Freed has been great. He seven. No but we kind of no, we don't pay attention too much to win loss record i. still give the slight edge to degrom right now, but it's a toss up and I think part of the reason why for that is because it's so closely and I agree with you I think it's because it's so close that some of the voters the the flip, the coin, the tiebreaker so to speak is going to be the. Simple question their heads, who's the best pitcher in the National League and I think everyone would probably say at this point you know regardless of where exactly where the numbers are today, who won the last store who didn't win their last start Jacob degrom I think generally consider is generally considered to be the best pitcher in the league. Yeah. I agree know like Burns has been amazing eighty three strikeouts only one home run and fifty six innings started the year in relief. Doesn't have quite as many. Any Trevor, Bauer as sixty five innings burns only fifty, six Sixty three. That's a very minor thing but. Again, that's kind of a tiebreaker I. Guess a scenario. Alright, you wrote a column published yesterday about the Justin Burland injury and and your is marks the beginning of the end of the Astros window so to speak and just walk us through that. Yeah I mean let Burland obviously looks like he's GonNa miss all of next year plus three agent after twenty twenty one this year end of two thousand twenty George Springer Michael Bradley yeary. How Josh Rettig are all free agents and that after twenty twenty one what ver- Lander Carlos Korean I think Lance mccullers so Can they resigned any of those guys who knows maybe they all want to leave the organization over what's gone on bottom line. There's GonNa be a lot of turnover on the Houston Astros. The next two off seasons I don't think they're going to be terrible buster. They do have some good young arms in the organization but the offense we've seen that struggle this year yellow get your Don Alvarez back next year. But yeah, I think what this postseason is over. This might be the last bit of window for this era, the Houston Astros and I. Think. Ultimately, their legacy yet can be what of dominance three, straight one, hundred win years but it comes with a lot of regret at I think ultimately, it's a sad legacy because of the cheating the you think that players are going to wind up looking for ways to get out of dodge with the Astros because of the scrutiny they've been under and I I say that. Having in the spring it was amazing and Look Eric Cole wasn't on the Astros in two thousand seventeen. Let's make this absolutely clear and that's the year for which the you know. The Astros organization was disciplined, but it was so striking in spring training on one hand yet the astros players you know solemn answering questions getting pounded by players with other teams, and then there was Garrett. Cole. Remember the Yankees You know this spring after two years with the Astros and he couldn't have been happier. And I to believe that that may have struck some of the astros players. Yeah I think. So you know this year so hard devaluate anything because virus but maybe if Houston had rolled to another dominant season and they were like, well, yeah, we really enjoy playing together. Let's see if we can keep this thing going but yet now without ver- lander, it just feels like maybe even at turnovers necessarily plus along those guys are thirty something years old and you know the new GM James Click came over on the raised they're still going to be an analytically Focused organization signing year old guys be their priority anyways. So I. Yeah. I think so I mean you know money talks in the end but I think we're GONNA see. All our most of those guys all leave the team. So now are now does out for the rest of the year. The rockies made that announcement yesterday and in speaking with reporters he basically said Yeah. I'm curious to see what happens in this off season There is a full expectation among club executives among agents said, there's going to be a massive restructuring in this winter of baseball's financial landscape and I look at our Nado who generally speaking is making about thirty, two, million a year. He's got six years left on his deal Really, great player I. GotTa believe that as a mid market team the rockies are at least GonNa take a look at the idea of look we just have to dump as much money as we possibly can as you try to manage their payroll once you're on whether or not he plays with them next year. Yeah. It's going to be really interesting because they're also probably the most cautious organization in baseball there they've done very little the last couple of seasons by. Two straight bad years. `aeronautics is the rest of that mega contract, which is a large percentage of their payroll plus Trevor Stories of free agent after twenty, twenty one. So you're two best players would you do and if you trade Aaron Auto, you probably May as well Trade Trevor Story and just dig everything up and start over from scratch. But I think I think it's a possibility both aeronautical and story are with somebody else next year you know and the team that jumps out to me with with our Nado Saint. Louis Cardinals, you know you look at them. He said boy that data is a perfect player for where they are right now and I wonder about the cubs like the cubs have tried to sign Kris Bryant they tried to work something out with him. You know three or four years ago it didn't happen. Now you know as he finishes his fifth year in the big. Leagues his service time he he's looked he has not look good and and you're right what you said before you can't really do any evaluation at at face it You know it surface level but he D- Brian is a free agent. After next year, he's represented by Chris Bryan that may not necessarily be bad pivot for the cubs if they can get the rockies, eat some of the money. It could be buster. What's your take on? Even Aristotle's value I know he has a shoulder problem maybe that's affected him all year. But as offensive numbers for him are way down I think seven of his eight home runs come at is he hasn't hit it all on the road is defense is still top Shell is to win the gold love again but. It's kind of a big question for everybody. How do you evaluate fifty eight because he hasn't been as good at the plate this year You know the the comparison I would make would be Nolan to Alex Rodriguez after his last year with with the Texas Rangers at that time people around baseball viewed Alex is being the best player in baseball and yet when the trade was made. The the Rangers wound up eating about thirty five percent of his salary nine million, a year out of the twenty, five, million dollars annually that he was making and I think a similar situation would happen with the rockies. If they move are now under the new financial issues that baseball are having especially not knowing as you talk at this moment whether or not, there's going to be a vaccine whether or not they're going to. Be Fans in the stands I think any team that would take him on would basically say look will and and I'm just making these numbers up. We'll take sixty percent of money. We'll take seventy percent of the money, but we're not really going to give you any elite prospects and you're just GonNa have to be happy with the fact that you're going to save some money. Yeah. That's why it's a fascinating decision for Jeff Bride Age. NADO salary thirty, five, million he can opt out after twenty twenty one although I don't think that's probably naturalistic in this time frame right? He's GonNa. He's GONNA stick to the rest of that deal which would have five more years. So thirty, five, million. You know drops a little bit at the end. But yeah, that's a lot of money with you. The rockies would have to pay down some of that contract. Yeah. Let's break some news here. All those players who have opt outs in their contracts. That were signed before the corona virus they're not opting out. Jd Martinez will remain with the red sox right exactly. Okay. Last one before we go Oakland clinched the West speaking of the Houston Astros after the astor's loss last night no match. Chapman. What are you seeing in the athletics going into the postseason? Yeah. They've won it which isn't a huge surprise how they've done it as a little bit of a surprise with a Matt Chapman. Okay but not great until his injury market semi hasn't played as well as last year Matt Olsen Lot of home runs hit one ninety-six. It's actually been their bullpen. Probably the best in the game has completely carried this team to that division title, which I guess that could work in the play offs. It can certainly work in a short series. My issue would be without as many off days. You run the bullpen into the ground in October. So I'm not sure if I'M GONNA be picking them out of the American league well, and most the time I think you would agree with me that you don't think postseason history as being indicative of what's to come but there are two exceptions this year I wonder because you know idiots like me when the Minnesota twins play the Yankees probably in the first round are going to be constantly. Bringing up that issue, it's GonNa Hover over them. You've lost thirteen straight games to the Yankees. How come you guys can't get over that Hump and the same thing with Oakland like I do think there's going to be a mental thing for those guys to overcome to get past the to finally get past the first round. Yeah. I not what the fact that the Yankees, the twins all four at the as haven't one sense you know whatever? Those play, I get the players don't care, but they know the history and they're gonna get those questions. So I think it absolutely is an issue you know and you know the current brand of these as having lost the last two years at least they get a best of three instead of a best one. So that'll help and it's a really fun team I really enjoy watching the as play in. It would be nice to see the as and the twins advance. But yeah, a lot of pressure to find a playoff series for both those teams. Are I. Appreciate your time. Great to talk with you. All right you bet. Before we move on, we need to mention our friends at Shell. Shell knows that between every T- up layup and batter up that you can't wait to catch up with your favorite podcasts. So come to shell and get three things done at once I fill up with Shell V. Power Nitro. Plus to help keep your engine running like new than save up with fuel rewards program and never pay full price for gas again, and finally snack up with in-store rewards to save even more at the pump. 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This is Hembo knows and Hanbo is bikinis a researcher DSP. SPN. WHO's alleged to be wild partier, Bhai, Mike, Greenberg, and we'll just leave it at that for this week Hembo as we get started yesterday we Tim Kirk John. Voted for the National League Cy Young, award, he is completely torn up and I don't think what happened last night gave them any clarity? Where would you stand on the National League Cy. Young award ballot. I heard your interview with him and it was it was bunnies for me. I was laughing here at home just hearing the pain in his voice knowing that you're whomever detects to win. There's going be people who is not going to and that's very tim. But my answer to that question is is actually pretty simple and clear, and that's Jacob degrom Jacob degrom is the best pitcher in the national. League. was last year he was the year before that and he still is his strikeout rate. It's used to climb his home run in walk avoidance continues to decline. He is as good now, as he's ever been I went back and looked at first thousand or so starts in each of the last two years. He's ahead of schedule. He's ahead of schedule where he was in those through his through his. Now over the last two years and he went on to win the Cy Young Award in both of those seasons. Now the question is, is that fair perhaps not but in the case of Trevor Bachelor Corbin Burns you darvish or any any one of these guys who's also a rip roaring start? Nagasy that started all we have here, but it's so easy to put up these inflated numbers in such A. Small amount of time. So I'm going to sorta resort to what I know what I know is Jacob degrom the best pitcher in his league in given he's even better than he was over at this point over the last two years. It sort of reinforces that for me and for the record, you did not hear the segment we just did with David Sean field, but you completely echoed where we talked about. That? The ought to the re that the default position for a Lotta voters is going to be these guys are also close who's the best pitcher in the National League. Yes. Is Jacob degrom. So the way to go reinforcing everything we just talked about what got Gary Cole- for us. Doing some postseason research pumps thrive in troubling numbers on Garrett Cole who starts tonight against the Blue Jays on ESPN what made coal. So dominant it Houston in part buster was his ability to pitch deep into gain out a performance dip your fact over the previous two seasons, he owned in the array of two nine four and allow a league low five, seventy, seven opium, the third time navigating the order. But this season that era has inflated to five, one, four, all the League owns an eight, forty, six opium against them in those situations. So in my judgment, coal needs to not only dominate but also provide air more length if they stand a good chance next month. You buy into the possibility that working with a personal catcher might help him. Yes. I I do I do the reason I. Think. So is because this season has so weird everybody that comfort is more important than ever before he's not getting the same. Pitch framing that he was getting last year. Obviously, he's not quite on the same page. The same way he was in Houston when he was menu is nodding consistently throwing Beebees I. do think it would help him I think. He's probably as important this he as engineer team next month the good news for the Oakland Athletics they're the American League West Champions. The bad news is we're going to have to go forward without Third Baseman Matt Chapman what he got yes. So they host the dodgers ace tonight on our air and they'll be without Chapman as you said hip injury and while. I never like sort of assigning a single player, a disproportionate amount of value in his case buster these numbers were loud enough to share. So since twenty team, which is his rookie season, the as a played one, hundred seventeen games without him, and in those there, fifty, six and sixty, one, the negative forty, five run differential. But when he played, they are seventy gains above five hundred with a run differential plus three eighteen. So not only to see naturally linked to line up a whole lot better. But the pitching staff sees more than a half run improvement in array he's on fields. Oakland, was my preseason picked to win the American League but I doubt it can make a deep run without its best player. So we were just talking about day about the situation involving Nolan are not by I really believe that because of the shifting landscape it for baseball financially, he's going to be one of the top candidates to be moved as clubs looked at dumb contracts what Do you think I would have to agree with you the the obvious question, Marcus. What kind of market is there for someone with that kind of future salary we talked about it when they signed him look he was he's a superstar when they signed him to his easily one of the fiber Bob players in the game and potentially on a hall of fame track is at third baseman. But Buster when I'm not sure is given all the financial issues. This year given that we didn't have fans in the stands and the season was shortened all the rest of it or they're going to be they're going to be many teams that are gonna be able to afford it like that's pretty pretty clear and obvious to me that it's going to be fewer teams band otherwise would. Be I'm concerned about the free agent market being suppressed and maybe they're going to be enough out there that use this time to spend because that will be a bigger advantage for them than it normally would. But to be candid I, think the market for him is going to be pretty limited because of the financial factors around the game. All right Hembo thanks for doing this later boys. Bleacher tweets. All Ready Buster bleacher tweets for Tuesday I W at Matt at Short Hop Sports. He writes in any traction for a pitch clock in the next CBA as has been noted, many times. Games are not any faster this year with a three batter minimum. Could this be a compromise with the players allowing D. H. in the National League I gotTa Tell You a lot of things are being mentioned right now. About big issues in baseball, and that is not one of them at this point I I'm mad I'm with you. I wish there was a pitch clock I. Think it would definitely help baseball but they've got so many things on the table right now because of the uncertainty about what's going to happen in baseball in two thousand twenty one of long been a big pitch clock guy that's that's a disappointing to hear. Last one per day for Antipasto composts rates in at Francisco G.. D. C. G.. D excuse me rights and hey buster greetings from Brazil in crazy year like twenty twenty. What do you think will be the most important for a team in this new postseason format a solid defense with great pitching performances or a strong offense with sluggers pouring homers. Thanks for listening from Brazil Francisco. Yeah. And it's interesting Francisco that normally in the season, we always hear about bench and bullpen being difference making I think this year it's going to be starting pitching because of that format in the League Championship series. Division series where these teams are GonNa plan consecutive days You know I've heard some conspiracy theories in front offices that Major League Baseball. This is the beginning of their effort perhaps to reestablish the preeminence starting pitchers, which we've been talking about Taylor, the need for baseball to do that. But when you line up teams to play every single day you the bullpens are going to be ragged you can't call on those guys every day. So you're GONNA need more performance out of you starting pitchers and I think those guys that are going to be a pivotal the pivotal guys in this postseason. Good stuff. Thanks in everyone Hashtag bleacher tweets on twitter and please subscribe to rate and review this podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts. That's it for today. My thanks to Dave. Hembo and Taylor have a great day. Everybody. Thanks for listening. Stay safe and remember hate inequality based on race is something we need to fight against every single day. For. Listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcast at ESPN DOT com slash pod center. Baseball tonight, the PODCAST.

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Sports Talk 5-26-2020

Lance McAlister

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Sports Talk 5-26-2020

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Now sports talk on seven hundred, wwl, W Let's get to at six, Oh, nine seven hundred wwl w. this is sportstalk lot to get to tonight packed. Baseball got a little bit of boxing. We've got with the opening of bowling alleys PUTT PUTT in the batting cages. Today we'll do an Ode to that later on in the eight o'clock hour, and a couple of guests to toss your way, go front and center or leadoff hitter tonight sits any waits for the return of Major League Baseball and chance to broadcast another season for Fox Sports Ohio. Let's dog little reds and baseball and acting and the rules academy. The broadcasters challenge with from Fox Sports Ohio Chris Welch. How are you I'm doing great. That's a lot to cover land. You're up to probably yeah I'm I'm getting used to it? I'm try I've been finding things to talk about for a long time, so. So I take it. We've talked once before during all this. Are you still hanging in there I? Guess? You know. What we talked about. you talked about attitude. I hope that those that are making the decisions about Major League Baseball right now have the right attitude involve. Country could really use. spurts we could use live sports. It was fun to watch what was going on over the weekend with the Charity Golf There's been some other sport sporadically on TV but I think baseball would go a long way especially. Now that you've baseball is up in planning a little bit it would go a long way to kind of getting everybody all minds off of how the latest to thirty seconds ago. Update on the coronavirus Chris I ask you this the last time in Alaska again because I like to draw your pitching expertise. If in this this plan and I do air quotes. It's a three week spring training. Is that enough from a pitching standpoint in your mind? Yeah? They should be throwing. Won't Change your your level of expectation for what this baseball is going to look. I have a feeling. It's GonNa. Look a lot more like what it used to roll the clock back years, maybe even a decade or two. because. There's GonNa. Be More guys going out there with with your analytics with. Preparation time UH managers making more gut decisions because you've got something completely unknown, which is a half a season scheduled that if you get the Pie, and so it's going to be very interesting from that standpoint. Yes, I absolutely as be able to get in shape after nine. Don't be on the roster. Go ahead. Go somewhere in training until you get ready. Let's talk movies last over this past weekend. Chance debuted at starlight drive in and Amelia. Matthew Modine had on the show last week. Jake hurts but I had on the show. It's A. Locally based movie filmed here in the area I did not know until you tweeted about it. You had a rolling chance. Do Tell I do. Small Role Played Myself as a a coaching amateur baseball team, there was a art team play against chances to and There was a play at the plate and I went over, and and happened to be the game winning play and we want. To Talk Matthew Modine team a little bit. Kinda. Cheer them up a little bit and what? My byline started out to be almost maybe one or two minutes I think. They got it down about ten seconds, so they weren't taking any chances. Up Straight time. Tell you but Michael Bailey who he and his son row row, produce the entirely. It's a very good movie. It's about teen suicide about how things can just get out of hand for teenagers and I recommend you know from an entertainment standpoint. Yes, but also some educational standpoint I it is, it's a fabulous movie and a great tale. They did a super job on it. You know I in talking with Jay Kertzman. Last week, who plays at Sycamore he? He joked, he said. Matthew Modine taught him acting and Jake said he taught Matthew Baseball. What kind of sense did you get as as Matthew Modine in terms of a baseball guy I the sense that he was a little bit of a baseball fan, but I don't get the sense that he played a lot growing up so those are always the tricky part of a baseball movie. Actor. It doesn company now under. It doesn't come to them secondhand. is others, but hey as a coach. He's got great stage presence Modine does and you know. Stay back so many realize why. This guy's an actor and I'm not. Very interesting. It was great. We had him up last year. actually a couple of years ago now that we wouldn't. They feel mad and we put it We got him on the air, a little talking to the TV booth and it was really yeah. visit with him, and that gets him I've been a fan of his ever since you know joker. Joker and full metal jacket. Yeah, absolutely, we're talking with Chris Welch. Fox Sports Ohio Reds Baseball, a little bit of movies. Let's Talk Rules Academy I always loved that passion. You have behind rules academy in your your branching out. About the broadcaster challenge in WHO's involved in the latest episode of it, were you know? People involved in the baseball rules when I found out with no baseball. Going on are drying up. Even when baseball's going on, but with no facebook on other really care so. These couple of dry programs about the rules has some really great experts including Ron rock the REG official score talking about official score, and it really didn't get much run with it, not much tracked try to. Do you know what everybody likes to see people? Okay, so I wanted to put broadcaster versus broadcaster umpire to officiate, and actually guys jeopardy get involved in jeopardy type game category. Pick a number, answer it, and then move on, and so the first episode with. Rex, harbor who's the color analyst for the Kansas City royals played about ten or twelve years. Pell Schroeder who's a color analyst for the Milwaukee Brewers, both of those guys are great. They told stories about their career was wonderful when he had retired Ma- apayart John Hirschbeck. Officiating last week, we take one with Marty and Thom Brennaman and I'm trying to. It was. The old man and a young guy. Can Win. Top off Wei Grit. It's in his vanity. Sure Kentucky. He was the officiating home plate on Pyre and he cleared US up on some rules. Don't some funny stories about him. Being on fire and you know these things are only about thirty minutes. That one more like fifty minutes. We. We put it up on Youtube today. That's also on my website baseball. Rules Academy Dot Com had a great time doing it and Maureen Tom they were. They were just terrific. That is excellent. that is very in fact I'm talking with Tom Coming up in about an hour from now so I'm GonNa ask him I'm GonNa. Ask him a little bit more about that I I love. You. Got, Josh! He's going to saint. Martin. Extra next question right because who was about the hall of fame, and it had to do with them power. How many empires are in the Baseball Hall of fame? Question! He gets wrong, so I I can't have him have this. So I offered him a lifeline call to Greg Gibson. Who is on the same call us and? Get an answer to right. We already the points and Tom. What very happy about that? Is! Beautiful Great Hear Your Voice Hope to hear you call him baseball very soon and always appreciate. To Lance Let's keep our fingers crossed. Here sounds good. Thanks, Chris there. You Go Chris. Welch Fox Sports Ohio. The the rules academy, the broadcasters challenge Tom, versus Marty head to head a showdown all right. We are loaded up tonight Cam Miller the local filmmaker, coming up at six, thirty, five, his latest film on Izard. Charles we'll get his thoughts on that. Thom Brennaman checks in at seven o'clock tonight, as mentioned with bowling alleys, opening up today and PUTT PUTT and batting cages. We'll do an Ode to that later on in the eight o'clock hour. Talk with Todd McGill from Coleraine Bowling. Talk with our. Gaiman from King of Bowling TV Richard Skinner hosted for a time. At least a few episodes of King of Bowling TV he's going to check in at eight o'clock tonight. Take some of your stories as well. We best get to your headlines as we continue as well. Thanks for being here. Hang out for a while. We'll get sports talk till nine. It's aren't L. Carriers, sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wwl. You come to learn more. Six twenty four seven hundred wwl W. Arnelle carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance McAlister fired up tonight. Glad to have here. We'll do it till nine and then Gary Jeff Walker serves up the nightcap from nine to midnight. Let me get you caught up on headlines because there's a lot going on, we start with Major League Baseball the owner Senate plan to the players this afternoon, formerly opening negotiations on the key issues for the start of the season to start by the weekend of July Fourth, the plan, three persons with knowledge of the proposal told USA. Today does not include the same fifty fifty revenue sharing split. The owners had agreed to two weeks ago the proposal instead. Instead includes a sliding scale of compensation, a major league bet networks John Hayman says the two sides actually talked today. The athletic reports the players were quote very disappointed by the proposal that includes massive quote, massive additional cuts, and that the highest paid players would receive according to report between twenty and thirty percent of their salary after having agreed back on March twenty six to take a fifty percent pay cut again. Let me stress this all of this still happening with the window of July fourth to start the season still open. They haven't missed a deadline. This would be and I'm using air quotes here. This would be negotiations when the July fourth deadline to start, the season is missed. Then I'd get worked up between now, and then you're choosing to get worked up. I know it's frustrating back to the headlines. The red should be opening three-game series with the pirates great American ballpark tonight it would have been game fifty four of the regular season I would have had Kelsey Chevrolet extra innings after the game NHL, the league, announcing today they will abandon the rest of the regular season. Season they will go straight to the playoffs twenty four teams instead of sixteen. If if they are cleared to resume, play the top four seeds in each conference would play a round robin against each other for seeding the remaining eight seeds in each conference would play a best of five series. They would do all this with two hub cities hosting the Games Columbus listed as one of the possibilities. Again this NHL Today if they can get clearance and clear the hurdles. With screening everything else, that is their plan to get back to hockey to hub cities, playing the Games and NFL who sports reports NFL head coaches could return team facilities as early as next week with full squad minicamps potentially on the docket for mid to late, June college football collectively, the conferences and television networks have agreed to an extension today for determining college football's early season gain times beyond the standard June the first deadline. High School Football quarterback Jalen Kit son of former Bengals quarterback John. Kit Not one a few old, announced his commitment to the Florida gators on twitter this morning. The three star recruit had multiple offers including Tennessee Arizona, and Boston College and Congrats Bryant Neal the former Xavier Thomas more women's coach takes over the women's program at Wittenberg today best of luck to him for everything else go to my blog. You'll find it at seven hundred wwl W dot com on the blog right now. I've gotTA look back to yesterday's anniversary of the reds. Reds the PADRES, dusty harangue and eighteen innings I. Have the weekend anniversary of the bengals franchise being founded. If you missed interviews last week for Matthew, Modine, to Doug Flynn to Pat Brennan, the Enquirer talking FC Cincinnati Dave Miley. The former reds manager, a chuck Weber, the former cyclones coach, and they anniversary of winning a Kelly Cup ten years ago, Rick, Green Cup of coffee, a reds pitcher in ninety nine or coli harvey among others, all of it always available in podcast form at seven hundred wwl w dot com all right. After the bottom of the Hour Kim Miller getting checked in and very excited about dad came has done a number of he's a local filmmaker and has done a number of projects involving the reds, but his project is on Ezzard, Charles the legendary Cincinnati boxer. We'll get his thoughts on that. I do want to, maybe before the hour is up. Get into a little bit more on what the NHL has come out with today and how they are planning to basically say all right we're. We're leaving behind our regular season. The remaining games will not be played. Here's our setup and the setup including doing all this the playoffs into NHL cities, then the back half of the seven o'clock hour we'll get into some bowling lanes opened up or at least able to open up to today air. Guy Todd McGill from Coleraine bowl will check in vic amen the king of TV bowling, and then Richard Skinner I kind of went down the rabbit hole today of King of TV bowling. And the site and it's a youtube channel has a gazillion, the old king of TB bowling, shows and man I'm why I'm watching all the hosts through the years Moran John Popovich. Did it for a short time. I got hurt George Vogel's voice on one of those Todd Donohoe. Fred Khalil Richard Skinner. Did a couple of those join us in the eight o'clock hour and talk about that, but let's do this. Let's get you caught up on the news of the day, and when we come back Kim Miller local filmmaker on his Charles, product or project. Is We continue? Our check on News Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wwl, W. Today. Six thirty eight hundred wwl W Arnelle carriers, sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on lions, mcallister, Saturday walk and our next guest big fan of his work. He is a local filmmaker and writer and composer jack-of-all-trades He resides in Dayton, Kentucky. He's done over over like forty seven short films since two thousand at five, he's featured today at great piece by Shannon Russell and they have led by the way. He's done a project on the professional baseball team. That Covington Blue Sox with played in the Federal League back in Nineteen, thirteen, the nineteen nineteen world series crosby field, his latest project is on the legendary. Cincinnati Boxer Ezzard Charles from our on that pleasure to welcome in Cam Miller, how are you? I am doing well. How about you good there? I am fantastic is great to catch up with you. Let me do this for someone listening right now. Who who might have just said who was Charles. Give them the cliff notes a couple of bullet points about who Charles was well. I think he he was. Champion and to come from Cincinnati's west side, and to make it out of their back in the forties and the fifties and come out of that that environment. to to fight the likes of Rocky Marciano Joe Louis. He needs to. He beats with his idol. Did his story so fascinating that drives around town knows as Charles Street the road, but they don't know that there was a man behind that street name, and there's a reason why he was a champion. Of Work, of course, a lot of luck, but I just don't think that enough people know about his greatness, and I hope that I can do small parties and just Kinda. Give him his take me back three or four years ago. You're in Washington pirker drinking a cup of coffee and you decided it was time to do it as Charles Project. I'm sitting there. I'm having a cup of coffee. And as these two young gentlemen, and they're arguing one says hey, as a child. He's a musician. No politician and I'm just shaking my head. Thinking I want to go over their. Phone their fate, Google this is Charles, but I already had an idea about doing a film, but that really set in motion that aspect of it, and then watching the Dave Parker a documentary that was last year that got me really excited because of the westside connection that neighborhood that rough and tumble area that Kinda gets glossed over, and the the greatness that came out of there and other Charles is one of those guys, Tim. How do you begin researching guy who fought in forties and fifties and died? Forty years ago Thursday of this week, right? It was I stumbled upon a book by William Debt Lost. The ring, the Ring magazine and he has a fantastic book going through youtube, just watching clips. Just it was unbelievable how this guy who was known as a kind of a meek. He's really boring guy. I mean he was shot by Iran's and fights as a kid. He didn't want to be involved, but when you put him in the ring, he became beast and I think that there's a story there. You might have been boring, and you might have not had the glamorous the Mike Tyson esque! You know streetfighting. Donna but he he just woke up into this, vs when he got in the ring, and the likes of who he fought. It's unbelievable the local filmmaker Cam Miller checking in tonight for a few minutes his latest project as Charles I I loved and we traded notes this morning. When a boxer gets ready to fight, he has to get his mind in the right frame in and get going in to get in the right frame. You were buying things. On Ebay. You know how that goes you WANNA get it pumped up so I'm programs, ticket stubs and looking up things. What can I get? I'm trying to make t shirts, and then of course do that. You pay the rocky soundtrack yawning imaginary polly and the next thing you know you're in the zone and you're ready to go the Tigers last in. The right frame of mind to make much I. Love it now you were. You were already into this one in the pandemic hit. Talk to me about the complications there. Right I had scheduled some interviews that I wanted to do, but it's kind of one of those things. That's well this happened, but it it could have been for the best because it completely changed dynamic my film. I went for making this. You know typical last dance kind of documentary. You're talking to people about what happened in going into and just letting Ezzor tell his story. What did he want to say? I'd go through all the interviews I go through clips where in a radio broadcast where commercials and just kind of get a Bible where he was. Like kind of led me into a different style of film, not talking head approach, but more of let him tell his story. What does he want to say and it really let me just fascinating meeting avenues I'm just so thrilled. It's turned out. We're on the track to being done. Where are you in wants done? What will you do with it? I probably will be finished by the end of July beginning of August I'm looking at the end of August if showing premier, probably a Q. and A. Online, but maybe we can do something outdoors, depending on how things are at that point, but I wanna do q made from like I, do all my films and kind of get people together to of celebrate this whether it's online or virtual, or whether it's in person to kind of give him. Him His view that I think is long overdue. He gets a story told so I'll do that. I'll do a soundtrack that will come out hopefully in a couple of weeks if I finish it if I pump up the either Tiger Larry, they'll get motivated. Finish that and that'll be on spotify I. James and Whatnot kind of like the soundtrack to kind of get you in the mood because there's nothing like talking and music. They kind of go hand. No question I WANNA go back in time and a little bit, and for those who don't know the story I mentioned off the top. The COVINGTON Blue Sox and people have perhaps been too or heard me talk about justice in Covington owned by Richard Dickman, there is a connection there between the COVINGTON blue. SOX and you smoke justice and take me through that story. Well. I showed my film at the Cannes. County Public Library and unbeknownst to me. Audience was once or MR, Richard Hickman and and. He comes up to me afterwards and he's like you don't think about opening up this sports bar and I think I've got an idea for a theme. Well. Of course, he wanted me to do not. He's got the Pathak idea to name. It Walter Smoke Justice after the famous pitcher to pitch the Blue Dachshund opening day on May ninth, nineteen thirteen and I had no idea what to expect, but you can only imagine me going through the microfilm machines. You know those bad boys. Going through those in nineteen, Ninety Eight, and your fast born in your, that sound is still embedded in my head, and you're going through it and you and you and you get to this point where you discover the Blue Sox and then forward twenty years later and you've got this sports bar opens up. It has all these clippings of all these things you've found and all you photos. It's just surreal to carry on that tradition. That's the do is pass on things that people might have forgotten to. Remember what they did very well said for those listening who you have a youtube channel. You've got twitter. Tell them where they can find all this stuff. Came films I'm always tweeting them always sharing things, and of course my youtube channel had fallen my films which are free to do so during this time where you're kind of indoors and you have to hunker down. The film. Little local history that is excellent. KFI I always enjoy it Thank you for the time now. Let's talk again is That thing gets ready to come out all right sounds like the plan man. Thanks all right, take care there. You go cam- Miller local filmmaker, Dayton Kentucky resident, the work spectacular, and I cannot wait to the project on Charles one of the greatest boxers of all time. A Hall of Famer Ninety Five Win, Cincinnati's only heavyweight boxing champion. Champion and the the the story, the life and times a pretty amazing to think back all right. Let's do this Tommy. Brennaman joins us in the seven o'clock hour. We'll head down the stretch in this hour. Fill in some of the the details and the nuts and bolts of what the NHL has said today. They're going to attempt to do and a little bit more on Charles's. We continue its carriers. Sports talk presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Heading down the stretch news time nine minutes nine minutes. It's aren't L. carrier sportstalk presented by kills Chevrolet. We love the iheartradio. APP is free. 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No, he was a musician and the ability to do a project to let people know who somebody was and not just somebody ezzard Charles, one of the greatest boxers of all time graduated from Woodward High School in Nineteen Forty two. He fought in World War Two and missed a year from boxing. World heavyweight champion beat Jersey Joe Walcott in forty nine beatty's idol Joe Lewis in nineteen fifty. His bouts with Rocky Marciano. These names I'm mentioning just iconic names in boxing. His bouts with Rocky Marciano are considered legendary classics. He's the only man who I've ever lasted the full fifteen rounds against mercy on Oh. He was friends with Ali. They were neighbors when they both lived in Chicago. Cam told me and some notes this morning. He had financial problems at the end of his. Life and it led to him working as a Bouncer at Copa Club in Newport. Even a brief wrestling career he died from Lou. GEHRIG's disease may twenty eight, the anniversary coming up on Thursday nineteen, seventy five. He was known for his slick defenses precision. His career record was ninety five wins, fifteen losses and one draw as an amateur. He was forty two zero. He turned pro in one, thousand, nine, hundred forty. Trying to think of their the things that stood out and look up stuff on him. This rate you know at the end of his career, he short on money. He kept fighting, and unfortunately it kind a messed with his final record, I think he lost thirteen of his final twenty-three fights to wind up where he did finally. He was diagnosed with the disease. Lou GEHRIG's disease in sixty eight. It affected his legs. Adventure left him completely disabled He spent his last days in a nursing home. He died in Chicago was nineteen seventy six at Cincinnati honored him by changing the name of Lincoln Park drive to as Charles Drive, and and that was the street of his residence. During the heyday of his career, he was elected to the International Boxing Hall of fame in Nineteen Ninety and Bert sugar who I would consider. The one of the handful of premier boxing experts in the history to sport Burke sugar was listed as Charles as the seventh greatest heavyweight of all time, and all that will come out in. Film form. Project for him from Cam Miller and I'm very excited about that all right? Here's what the NHL was trying to do today and this I add this because it. Don't want to say. It adds a template for Major, League Baseball, or the NFL, or the NBA and follow because they're all in different stages of this, but here's what the NHL announced this afternoon. Follow along in terms of the logistics for how this might play out. It's called their return to play plan. Twenty! Four teams were returned to play for the Stanley Cup at two hub cities later in the summer. They stopped their season on. March, twenty eight. They had played eighty five percent of the regular season. The regular season it has been declared over A. Hundred, eighty nine games originally scheduled for Merch. Twelve April fourth will not be played. They will resume and pick it up with the playoffs. Twenty four teams, the top twelve in each conference based on percentage points at the time, the game stopped. Now this is all contingent on medical testing. All of that being cleared as well early June. It's expected. The teams will be permitted to return to home facilities for small group voluntary and on off ice training that the next phase, not earlier than the first half of July. Formal training camps will begin after guidance from medical and civil authorities. Then twenty four teams in two hub cities compete for the seating round robin. They split it up to conferences. There's four top seeds in each conference those four we'll play against each other in a row. Each play other once. For the seating one two three four. The other eight teams have to play a best of five series. The to hub cities now being discussed, or they will send the NHL. Chicago Columbus Dallas, Edmund. Ten Las Vegas Los Angeles Minneapolis Pittsburgh. Toronto and Vancouver. So. Each conference is assigned a hub city with you have to secure hotels arena. Practice facilities and in market transportation. Now now you start thinking, wait a minute. That's a whole lot I. It'd be one thing to do at scattered across the country. You're bringing it into two cities where the NHL will play its postseason, but you've got to figure out who tells and the Arenas Andrew transportation injure players, not the entire League, playoff teams will be sequestered, they'll be quarantine so western in those cities for as long as they are in the postseason. Again, the top four teams in each of the conferences will play like got the city. One would have Boston Tampa. Washington and Philadelphia. Each of those four would play each other in a round robin. Whoever wins it is the number one seed two, three, four same with the other conference city number two. And then everybody else plays a best of five series to advance to the first round of the playoffs. Exciting in theory complicated I, I believe that execution, but it's a plan that they had been working on for a while that they will put into place if all the medical issues and testing can be clear. I think it's safe to say for League Baseball standpoint. It is an important. Week plus for Major League Baseball and look I get. I get the talking points I. Get the imagery. The optics I get it all. Nobody wants to hear anything that's going on. Nobody wants see how they make the sausage. You just want baseball, but understand this. If you're getting worked up about this. If you're getting angry, I've already read the tweets and emails today that the victory on the venom, no deadline has been missed. This is. The negotiation phase between both sides. I'd prefer neither side say. To anybody, so nobody in the media has anything to report about it of WHO's happy and who's unhappy, but ultimately no deadline has been missed. Major League Baseball's original plan was eighty two games starting the weekend of July fourth. You know what the plan is right now. Eighty two games starting the weekend of July fourth whether you like what's coming out of the two sides whether you understand or want to understand the negotiations whether you want to compare it to the average joe out of work, none of it matters because they haven't missed their deadline. If you want to get upset. When that deadline, if and when it is passed than I will be right with you, ranting and raving, kicking and screaming. But I'm I'm sorry I just can't make my default position right now to get worked up about it because this is the. Between the two sides. And they're working in the context of knowing the season is going to have to start July the fourth one way or another straight up top of the hour. Tommy Brennaman talks a little reds baseball. I've got job in the broadcaster challenge against his dad and I'll ask him about hosting. King of TB Bowling at one point as we continue Arnelle carrier sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred. WWL You. The following takes place between seven PM and eight. Let's keep rolling seven Oh nine seven hundred. WWL WBZ sportstalk carriers, sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I our Chris Welch checked in Talk Little Reds Baseball. Let's Let's continue the Baseball Conversation I. WanNa Talk Baseball, I wanNA talk the broadcasters rules challenge I. WanNa Talk Podcasting and I think we're going to ask our next guest about his days hosting King of TV bowling as well because bowling alleys can open up today and all about current events, so it's welcome in the man behind the MIC podcast. It is It is new in maybe next. It's twitter and then Tiktok for our next guest. That would be Tommy Brennaman. Off. You are branching out if it's podcasting today, it's going to be twitter soon. Be Lance. There's no doubt about it. We all have to own. This thing and so you know while we been down per here. Rest came up with the idea. Hey, let's try something Jim Basin task him so What did I? Say. I felt that I think. Excited about the season starting, we'll get to that. You know you're in a minute, and and hopefully we'll be happening sometime soon. We decided to check in with other TV and. Radio announcers with other teams, and so we have blind Anderson from the brewers in Lancaster. The coach Gregg. Pirates Dan Macaca the goals and then just. chipper for the braves McCarthy that at least. Every and so as closer to answer, wondered about okay well. What's going on with the phillies? Or the cardinals, or whatever and It's going to stop those guys that really know inside. His they are fantastic listens. You can find him through reds dot com to go to reds DOT COM. Just scroll down a little bit. You'll see Tommy's picture. It says a behind the MIC. Click on it. You can listen away with that as the backdrop. Are you confident that we are going to see baseball this season? ORLANDO, hope so you know I I don't like everybody else but I try to look at things. Is grass have fooling around in the glass half empty and I'm not perfect on that by any means Out But. They're gonNA. Find a way to get it done I do know that if they don't get it done and wondering because. I. Think everybody would get whether it depends into. I think that there would be. Irreparable damage done to the game of Baseball and the sport of baseball as we know it I. Don't think it'll ever be the same ever again. If this incident stalemate because of money very well, said Thom Brennaman checking in talk, a little Radstock, a little major league baseball check out the podcast behind the MIC podcast. Go to reds dot com I had I had Chris Welch on an hour ago, and he levelled some scathing allegations against you. He said if I were to ask you about the broadcaster Rules Challenge Versus Your Dad. You would say and I'll quote him. He said you would say you were jogged. Would you like to respond no. I'm. And and I. Like a lot of. Head of myself. Certainly. Hundred five hundred. One question I I everything. I had the next thing I. Won't like. Per Usual? That is beautiful. It's it seemed like you guys were having a blast. Really cool if people haven't seen it, it's at based on Rules Academy Dot Com. That's Kris runs that website. You're not whole coach, which I was for many many years, warning to a high school coach or amateur, these high school, College Pearl there's there's different rules you know there's. Rules and it really gives you a great idea. Of being able to. It was my dad against. Symptoms on and Kentucky that was on. Her awesome job. It was really a lot of fun all right. I gotta ask you. Because today Ohio bowling alleys can open, and there is a website king of TV bowling and I went down the rabbit hole today, looking at a bunch of episodes from years past I found you tell me about your time is one of the hosts John, King of TV bowling. Single those days I was like twenty four was living over park and working at channel. Five is of against actor. Who over the weekend sports accurate? Guys like Jd Hayworth. Working the list goes on and on and on. It doesn't show. You're the guy that does it. Works was. You would get up at five o'clock in the morning on Sunday morning. Okay. You'd have to be at whatever. It was all. Because, it was such a hugely popular show was first. Cincinnati Cincinnati. They were never that show well. Jennifer Linke partners on it, and we just keeping that thing about six thirty in the morning with. Guys, that I've worked out the BALLPARK IN STRIFFLER JJ. All these guys on. The ball, but it would be. Opening now. You. Sir, taping these things at six thirty in the morning, and there would be fans packed with the place. Knock down a cold heat or fall. Thirty. Thirty. Eight. That's fantastic. Great so I never would happen. Is He finished? Eighth, thirty, And then I would do the. Sports and the eleven o'clock sports on Sunday. You go back home. You take our couple hours. Combing TV noon and there you were. Before. We have a lot of laughed about it. Now I'm sensing with that early of a wakeup call that limited the ability to run the streets the night before correct not at all. That's fantastic I. Love that. Yeah, my. The kids are fighting back the boredom, but they're you know they're they're. They're getting through it. Yeah. Our kids got final exams this week and so Done a great job with with that whole thing I don't. Know? There are a lot of issues with you know different walks of life, and where you are socioeconomic link and so forth, but we've been very lucky kids at stake. You know pretty focused, and and they've done a great job. Hey, one more thing before i. let you run and I heard. You referenced this a couple of weeks ago on the reds, hot stove, and and I wanted to to know more about it and I don't know that many people understand the impact. He had on you, but but take me back. You started to tell the story when you were doing reds games early on Eric. Davis kind of take you around the clubhouse and being. Like like a liaison or a mentor. Take me through that and how he helped you all. Ain't you know you're trying to get started and walk? In Cincinnati and Air was well known in the town, but You know I I was twenty two I was just getting on the year. Twenty. Three and one of my jobs is to go down to the BALLPARK before every game I've ever stadium getting to a couple of players series time doing live shot made me on the field, and actually he might come back. You Know Ten thirty eleven o'clock at night and gets different sound as we say is different guys after a game. and. House even though I think blessed FBI around a Lotta clubhouses or a lot of the biggest names, the history of the game, this was a whole new breed and for people. Whenever the Nineteen Ninety World Series team. There was A. To that pool that started in the mid eighties. Marking and Davis and Daniels Can Paul. O'Neil and Kurt Stillwell, and Christie boat and rob dibble norm to all these guys are coming up at the same time. And I don't know what it was I hear. for whatever reason and I am forever and thankful for that Guy People. Ask me all your favorite rep, and you can have one player. When you were a little kid. Everybody would be like Utah Lot flap. They're left on. The Left arm like joking that everybody played like Pea theatre. Try to that. Is Yes. Mike my you know career and trying to carve out a path yourself out about where I. Just I always loved him I still I won't see him. He's just a really really good man. Great Story, Great Story. I tell me Brennaman hanging out the podcast behind the MIC podcast. Go to reds dot, com, fantastic listen perspective around Major League Baseball Tom Great kitchen up I enjoyed this stay safe, and hopefully we can see each other in person sue. Thanks for having. Everybody out. Got Thanks Tommy. Tommy random checking in behind the MIC podcast. Reds Dot Com all and don't think for a second we are not talking about. The The King of TV bowling coming up later on in the eight o'clock hour. How about that? CD SETS SHOWING UP AT SIX thirty in the morning tape bed show on a Sunday with the crowd already there waiting to get in and drink and Huby. Out. A love it. We'll talk a little bowling as we get closer to eight o'clock tonight Richard Skinner. Who say like Dole host night? Richard Skinner who also hosted King of TV bowling. Going into the day is I. Start Mapping out the show. I Center I. Know This Ohio's reopening bowling alleys and PUTT PUTT and batting cages. I said I'm not paying attention. If I'm not focusing on at least a little bit on bowling alleys and referencing King of TV bowling that is coming up before we were done today. That was what seven nineteen Arnelle carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, seven hundred. WWL W. dot com. Seven, twenty five seven hundred wwl wrol carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet are nail carriers, your global transportation provider visit our L. C., dot com and Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July. That was fun. Appreciate the time from Tom Brennan thanks for all the tweets. I'm Atlanta callister. We would love to have you as part of the show where it some sixty, nine, thousand, seven, hundred ninety, following along you, you can make it sixty. Sixty nine, thousand, seven, hundred, ninety one. 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And the Wrangler beat the cyclones one nothing to even their killick series at one, and I was listening to the reds on my headphones, because the intrigue of how the game would end in went eighteen innings almost six hours, the reds used ten pitchers that day, the US three starting pitchers that day and lost twelve nine Adrian Gonzalez hit a game winning three run homer off Edison Volquez in the bottom of the eighteenth. It over the first twelve innings dusty had used Matt below for four and a third, then he turned to seven different relievers in ran out of pitchers, so he turned. Erin Harangue in the thirteenth, and Erin had pitched two days earlier. And Erin through four innings. In this game. No runs struck out ninety through sixty three pitches and three days later dusty, started harangue on his normal day against the pirates, so he pitched for third time in eight days he threw two hundred and thirty nine pitches in that sequence and I. I would think Erin Harangue would tell you. He was probably I. Think he would probably. Probably tell you this that he wasn't the same again. That season somewhat argue he wasn't the same again. The rest of his career he entered that game with an earned run average, a three and the rest of the season he made eighteen starts with an earned run average of nearly six, but beyond that the fascination in that Game Corey Patterson that day went. Oh, for eight. A Joey votto double switched into that game in the ninth inning, it had three hits afternoon entering the game in the ninth inning. Adam Dunn homered off of Greg Maddux. Bronson Arroyo. who had beaten the padres? The night before had a pinch hit single with two outs. Thirteenth Paul Bucko the reds. Last position player pinch hit for Harangue and struck out with the bases loaded in the top of the seventeenth. The Padre struck out nineteen times in that game. Tony Clark who is the current executive, director of the Players Association Pinch hit of that game for the Padres, the two teams combined to throw five hundred eighty-one pitches, three hundred to reds, pitchers, two, hundred, seventy, nine by Padre pitchers, yesterday was the the anniversary back in two thousand and eight up next. Bowling alleys reopened today to ask Todd and McGill of Coleraine Bowl the challenges of reopening a bowling alley. Then after that will talk with Vic Ayman from King, of TV Bali. and Richard Skinner at eight Oh five tonight one time host of the King of TV bowling on a day, where bowling alleys reopened in Ohio is well, I cannot pass up the opportunity to talk a little bit about the days of King of TV bowling ahead straight news new bottom of the hour. We were at the midway point. Thanks for being a part of it Arnelle. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Seven thirty seven seven hundred wwl W, it's carriers, sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet by the way tomorrow night on the show to talk with the president of the Pensacola. Blue, Wa, WHO's Minor League Baseball team? Their stadium has been put up for rent an Airbnb you and your friends could rent their minor league stadium. Hang Out, there have a sleepover. Played Baseball on the diamond. They've got a suite for you. The Access to the PAT gauges. details on that tomorrow night coming up on sportstalk. Gary Jeff Walker serves up the nightcap tonight after us at nine, coming up at Eight, Oh five Richard Skinner from local twelve on a variety of issues, but focused mainly on. His role as host of King of t bowling. I can't wait because he had a mustache. That time and Like the background on that as well I mentioned, today is a big day because bowling alleys can open batting cages can open and Putt Putt. Golf can open at least begin to open in the state of Ohio with that in mind I thought well. We should probably talk a little bit of bowling tonight and I've got connections in the bowling community. A couple of guys I turn to when it comes to bowling stuff. Our next guest is one of those from Coleraine Bowl. That would be todd. McGill, how are you? I'm Lance. Our you I am well I would think your your emotions today are a little mixed one. The excitement that bowling can come back and then the realization like. There's a lot of work to do. There is always a lot of work. In this business for sure, but you know it was kind of cool seeing pictures from all around towns with the bowling centers getting open, and just getting some folks back out and enjoying what they like, and you know, and and having a casual time out on the lane. And out there having fun again, so it was definitely cool to see and you know it's. It's the way it should be so my understanding, Coleraine. Bowl is going to open, but his taking kind of a a slow. Let's get this right approach. Let's get everything in order and did not open today correct. That's correct. We've got We've got several kind of key events coming up and we're. We're focusing on them and doing more controlled events and tournaments and things that I basically A. Sort of a way of looking at it if You've kind of been a theme, but We've got a tournament. Our first tournament is going to be June the seventh, said I. Call Rain On that six thirty, and that's normal Sunday sweeper. That's kind of a a pretty hot ticket in Cincinnati around we, we usually get about one hundred and eight bowlers every week. That's the Max Field and we live in filling up every week for several weeks before we had to shut her down. So. We're looking forward to getting that one back on track and we may throw in a second one a week. Just to get everybody out there a couple of times a week into the tournaments. Todd give us. In general terms just. Give us. An idea of what has to now what bowling alleys in general have to adjust to adapt to or change at this point? The Bowling Alley capacities what they are. We're allowed to have fifty percent and then make sure we maintain our social distancing they'll. You'll find plexiglass up that a lot of them in front of the fronts ask or wherever it maybe in front of the bar wherever the folks are going to talk to the employees, employees are going to be wearing their face mask. Until we're told not to. and. Make sure that you know everybody feels comfortable. We want everyone to feel comfortable coming into our bowling centers. Across the city? Because we wanted to come back. And that's kind of the fear. If they come in, and they're not happy, or they don't feel comfortable at all. They're not going to so. A lot of the bowling. Centers are going every other lane. when they come into open play, so there's always are. Leaning between you or with the tournament play, they might have something in place where there's one person on the lane, one of the bowlers area and one back in the concourse and Kinda play ready bullying and keep their distance that way. Todd you know you know this bowling community. You have your finger on the pulse of the community. Do you get a sense there is? There's an inch to do it again at the community will eventually come back and rally around the sport in this town. Absolutely There's there's a lot of talk about it every day. There was a lot of talk about it every we were down. And I mean all over the state all over the TRISTATE people messaging people calling people sitting posts out on social media that they just want to get back out on the lanes, and they just want to get out and vote with their buddies, and they WanNa bowl tournament, and they WanNa. They WANNA, go out there and compete again, and it's there and you know this. The day finally came, or we can start a little out of time and. It's pretty exciting honestly. Todd as a you're you're a connoisseur of this sport around here? I'm sure you recall King of TV bowling back in the day. Absolutely I do what what what memories or moments come to mind when I say King of TV bowling. Well I competed in several times in my younger years. Never quite made the show. I was one one spot out of making the show at one point in time. and. So I mean I was out there every Saturday and Sunday beaten up with these guys and having a little fun but I had a lot of friends that were in there, and made the TV show, and I was one of those guys in there at six thirty in the morning. That's on was talking about. A little fun with them. It was really cool, very cool. Good deal for those listening who want more information of what's what you have gone on coming up in the near future and Coleraine Bulwark and I send them. Out We've got rain goal DOT COM or we can go to the sweeper page which gives you all the details. for upcoming sweepers and tournaments at. The PMT sweeper page on facebook as well as the Korean bowl facebook page. FACEBOOK AND KOREAN DOT COM WE'RE GONNA keep everybody updated and let them know what we got coming up. Sounds good talk. Right here in your voice great catching up with you and best of luck. Thank you very much landscape a great night for getting on the air? You got it. Thanks, todd, there. You Go, Todd. McGill Coleraine. Bowl we. We have a bowling theme developing tonight in our next segment, we'll talk with vic vic who created the the youtube page and the website King of TV bowling. What we're going to do, let me lay out from here to nine o'clock I'll. We'll do that with VIC. Coming up in a few Richard Skinner from local twelve dot com, and then might plan would be maybe at about eight twenty or so maybe towards the end of the show. Show to open up the lines and spinning off of the stories that Tom Toll Thom. Brennaman talk about king of TV bowling and Todd told about king of TV bowling, and what will add to that and what Richard will add to that? That would lead us into a little bit of bowling conversation. This is the day that bowling alleys and batting cages and Putt Golf in fact, skinny told me in trading text with him. He says why can talk about all three because I helped. Build the batting cages on Dixie. Highway and I played Putt Putt in Tulsa as a kid. said all right. We'll hit on all three, but my vision will be a little bit of bowling conversation. As we head towards nine o'clock tonight, we'll take a timeout. Continue really appreciate you being a part of the show tonight. We'll hook up with VIC. We continue its Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred. W. Moving up on eight o'clock at our way through a Tuesday night, thanks for tagging along the The News in ten ten minutes Jerry Jeff. Walker's in at nine tonight he will take united midnight. Don't forget tomorrow night. Reds hot stove at six o'clock, so We can hook up from seven to nine afterwards. We'll again. We'll talk with the president of the. The Pensacola Blue Wa who's the Blue Wa who stadium is on Airbnb now you can rent their stadium for a night details on that, and that will lead us into a much bigger topic. along those lines tomorrow night on the show, but we. We talk a little bowling. We talked with Todd McGill from Coleraine Bowl. Let's talk with the guest who? I WANNA say was right around this time three years ago. I'M GONNA say June of two thousand seventeen, and it's a long bowling line so I figured on a day were the bowling alleys could reopen? He would be perfect to hook up with an I will admit I, spent my lunch hour going down the rabbit hole of his of his website, and the the youtube videos over the years, and that's why I asked Tom Brennan about it, and why I will ask Richard Skinner about king of TV bowling coming up in our next segment. Let's welcome in the game. And how are you? Doin. It's an honor approval to be on. A great catching up with you. I understand we exchanged. Notes yesterday your your plan was to bowl today. Did you in fact bowl today? Yes, we did. We got the Madison. My, son. It was great to get out here the sound of those ten minutes so. We, we got out there. Enjoy the UH. The ambiance of historic Madison Ball. If could before we get into King of TV bowl and just kind of described the scene. People things that were were different based on circumstances. What was it like today? It's a completely safe environment. The gang out their mouths ball. They're doing a great job as most of. are going to be gone. you know they had all the. Teachers out there. place was pretty busy and we got this morning about business on our there for about two hours so. They got a great special. They're running eight dollars or For two hours. You know. I get a sense in talking with with todd earlier and with you now you guys know this bowling community. Do you get a sense? The bowling community is it kind of thirsting to get back to doing this and his going to support the support the sport again. They're chopping off the bed I mean they. They run some good things out there Korean bowl and the a lot of people out there looking to get back into their events. You know hats off to how they're doing a great job out there. You know. I felt included. You know it's it's just terrible been out for eight weeks and. These smaller proprietors they've been. Really battling the lack of incomes last monster, absolutely all right, let's get to let's get the king of TD bowling and I talked about this with you three years ago and I spent much of my lunch hour today. Just going from one video to the next on your on your site for those who who may be not aware. Maybe they're transplant, so they're gonNA. What the heck was! King of TV bowling described what it was. The tournament one around the Tri State area they qualify on Saturdays and whatnot and match on every. Sunday The winter each week would carry on as the king from center to center around the area so I. Mean if you one on one Sunday neck center. Defending gang and so on. And I understand. If if I remember our conversation three years ago, you would. You would attend that with your father back in the day. Is that right? Yes that's correct in my my dad was good friends with Kenny draftsman and really Snyder they all up North College Hill. See, as boys and he take their out wrestling. Who was a? Theoretical time, and ended up being a rep for Miller as well so you had the ends and algae play golf with all. To. Attack me along. So what? What made you want to put together a site with? All those videos for King of TV bowling. Just kind of started out as a you know. Have you seen this match? With. Video Sherifi Ron Barr started all out. He gave me a collection of to put out there. It's just. I'm a big fan of this show and it's just fun to watch the old style of the game. How many videos do you have any idea any guess on how many different matches or videos you have on the site? We're calling around two thousand. Yeah so. That's clear. We also have national on as well from. Tour which I might add the PBS then. Sharing a lot of our footage on their page and he'll be saved. Then you know taking advantage of a lot of the stuff to work putting out there for Arcot yeah. We're kind of helping out by putting this stuff out there. Everybody's joy and. Just in looking at the site at you, it looks like you're continuing to update you when you have videos. You put them up there, right? Yeah, as we get a man, people send me stuff weekly. ARAPAHOE! Gary Traffic Betamax eight milimeter reel to reel. Stuff people for free. It's just it's a hobby. I got and I. PUT it out there. I'm Mike Driving Forces for the. Now there's GonNa. Be Next question because I remember we. We talked about that three years ago, is there? Is there any momentum, are you? Are you any closer to convince somebody to bring this baby back and put it on TV? been knocking on doors or even emails McCall's. A matter of finding the right people to put the pieces of a puzzle together to get the happen, but. I'm not going to stop for. Keep backing away. Maybe, something will happen soon. Excellent for those who want to check it out, they it's all you can go to the Youtube page king of TV bowling or or facebook King of TV bowling correct. Yeah that's. Right You your facebook. Vic Great catching up. I'm glad we could tell the story and keep in touch I. Want to see these baby back on TV someday because I five. The website fascinating I was watching. I stumbled into the video of of an exhibition type. Thing on Fountain Square with Mayor Lucan Bowling back in eighteen, eighty five and I was fascinated by today at lunch. Yeah, that's correct. That was here by Chuck Martin. private sipple. He has contributed a boatload of contacts within the last. I'm. Still working on a lot of stuff right now actually. Speaking about Richard Scare. People in the northern Kentucky how `Bout! Lawson productions and whatnot they did that and then the tournament. A lot of other Kentucky content is what I've been working on lately, but. I love it. I love it a victory catching up buddy, stay safe, and now let's talk again soon all right. Thank you. Thanks there you go game and King of TV Bowling Richard Skinner and his role in that coming up, and then after skinny will open up the phones and take some calls maybe to round out the hour or so I think we can have some fun with that by the way along the lines of this, this is just beautiful I don't know if you have kept track of all the different. Each sport game the video games going well. Daniel Apt abt Daniel apt has been suspended from the Audi, formula e team after cheating in a charity e sport event over the weekend now these are video games simulations. YOU NASCAR's done. It would drivers. Apt was disqualified from the online race in order to pay ten thousand dollars to charity after it emerged that he arranged. Get this for a professional Gamer to race under his name in the official eastport race. So they formula e team research over the weekend supposed to be the drivers. He hires a ringer to take his place. Apt to issue an apology, saying I did not take it seriously as seriously as I should have his ringer, a pro Gamer by the name of Lorenzo Hers Zing was disqualified from all future rounds of the separate challenge grid, Gaba division rival drivers had been suspicious about the performance during the race with a Mercedes driver, raising concerns on his twitter account. Today Audi issued a statement. Saying apt had been suspended from his role in the team due to his actions. There now cheating in the sport games hiring ringers. To take their place. When we come back Richard Skinner his mustache back in the day and his role on King of TV bowling, and then you better believe I'm open up the phone lines for some of your stories and memories of Bowling and King of T. Bowling on a day where the alleys go open in Ohio, it is straight up eight o'clock that makes it news time on the home of the rat seven hundred wwl w. The following takes place between eight PM and nine PM. Let's keep rolling eight seven hundred WWL W. This sportstalk I'm Lance McAlister. Thanks for being a part of the show today. If you missed Chris Welch earlier if you Miss Thom Brennaman not in podcast form available now at seven hundred wwl W, dot com on the podcast page through the iheartradio, APP just searched my name, and all the interviews shows and. Individual interviews become available I figured today do in this period of time you take advantage of stories presented to you when they are presented because there hasn't been a whole lot, and when I saw over the weekend I'm a lot of the show and I said all right Tuesday's today that bowling alleys are allowed to open it Ohio Putt. PUTT is allowed to open and batting. Cages are allowed to open I said well then I'd be an idiot not to talk about that. In some way shape or form so over the weekend I'm watching King of TV bowling, the the website and all the youtube videos. Just going from one video to the next seeing who I recognize and I recognized our next guest now. Initially I was caught off guard because he had a mustache kind of a Tom selleck back in the day mustache and I said wait a minute that is skinny. I've gotta get Richard Skinner on the show tonight, and if I'm asking Thom Brennaman and about his days hosting King of TV, bowling, I've got to talk with Richard Skinner about that and his days as a bowler, and he offered up earlier this morning while also talk about batting cages and Putt. PUTT, so he's a well rounded guest and we welcome in from local twelve dot com. Said Richard Skinner. How are you? I'm doing great. It was great fine for the people that sound that that video from the. We did kind of a BP. Bowling. Alight Northern Kentucky the Miller lite stars of TV bowl and into the Pepsi Stars of PD. And we did it at the Northern Kentucky houses, and as someone who grew up an Aficionado of the BPA king of TV bully, I was more than honored in my early twenties. Does that show and I love? It enjoyed it then. Yeah, I di Rock, the mustache affect your getting the Nike. You will find this shocking UC. Chris tweeted and said make sure I. Tell You it's a god awful mustache. That that's the core. You look so hurt and you're right. y'All all looked like Tom selleck. Like Tom selleck. That's right, so so how many episode how long and how many episodes did you do? Three or four years of it something loud. It was a lot of fun. I love bully. I grew up bowling. check bushman delete bushman. Who was the Communications Director Airport ran a cable company sports organization. Jeff I. Did Thomas More Games for them back in the day? so I was so grateful that he let me come my doing some of that kind of stuff. When somebody somebody got four or five months ago and send it to me, I couldn't laugh. I thought. Wow, look at you. Look at you and so am I. Understanding correctly were there were there dueling? There was an Ohio show and then a northern Kentucky where they're two different bowling shows. What was a very cable access oriented show, and the other one was on first channel nine, and I could get time on Earth Thom Brennaman on, and then on channel five for a period of time, and that was the. King of TV bowling that was the that was the main one, but the one. He was still a very good show. I mean it just. It was very Kentucky senator was. Cynical. They get over here to Super Bowl in a couple of lanes. In Kentucky but pretty much Our Show was very northern Kentucky Center so yeah. I call it the king of bowling. Light and it was fun and you were do I. Understand this correctly. You were an alternate at one point two to actually bowl on the king of TV bowling on junior star of the king, the King of TD Bowling back in the day. There was some really good young Bowlers I. Think our Home Rob. Carpenter I believe you're Rob Korea. I believe. He was a very good Bowler del lanes I could be wrong. You could ask him that. One guy named Greg Lousy and a guy named Oscar. Gold for the traveling team at Super Bowl and So what a bunch of US would do was we would go try to qualify for the for the King of TV Bowl Katie alternate for the junior year in. The same was a Great Lake Jack Moran won't. The host of. The show and when you were the alternate, you're also the score keeper. When so the shows were taped in, so I went home and I'm outside 'cause. Jacqueline is going to say my name. So awesome. To say my name. Wrong scorekeeping this week Dick Shiner. At the time you may recall and you're. Obviously there a quarterback in the US L. at one point five dipstick? Shiner Jack. The Tuesday and kind of confused my name with that so. I, tell people forever. That is beautiful. That is so Tommy Brennaman earlier was telling the story of a Vei taped at like six thirty on Sunday mornings, and the place was packed with people already drinking hugely. When did you guys tape your show? We take. But not much it was it was fairly early I was say late boring on Sunday Kennedy something lines. And I can recall item neighbor up the streets in Florence. A guy named break. Who was a time? He won a bunch of weeks in a row and I would go with a couple of other friends neighbor we go watch him, and I remember the first time he talk Popovich Just come town. Pinch host, you and I can remember going to skip death. What's getting that episode is on the King of TV Bowling Youtube. Pay I watched that episode. There you go. So, yeah, I fell in love with it then all right well. I mentioned how well rounded in well-versed. You are on what is happening today. You mentioned earlier, you you. You were part of building the batting cages on dixie highway? Yanni McCain and graduated from doing rear windows to being the finisher. To the Fisher drove the car that. They decide. They're going to build a batting cage back there so one day they decide to take a couple of his off the line of. The car wash. They just need some some Labor to go. Do it and said Your money your fault and so there I am having no I. Would I'm doing? It was such a hot day would porty asphalt period of time. Then you have to step both your feet into a bucket of cold water to cool them off so I ruined a perfectly good. What I tried, but whenever I drive by Janis Wash, I don't get my car wash. They always have still respect plays, and well the place the people and look to go. I actually help build that thing I'm I, and I can't see. I'm barely can change a light bulb, but I somehow. Three days summer. ASPHALT? Cage. Our. Guy Chief is listening right now and you know he's muttering under his breath. What a bunch of losers! Money you're not taking right? Now to around this out I I'm trying to remember. What is your experience at Putt? PUTT other than just playing it was there any. Is there any story behind your PUTT PUTT to complete the trifecta of openings today not to give my complete back on my life, but I was born in Cincinnati. and. Time and my dad works at airline, so we moved to new. York a couple of years. Pulse Oklahoma my fourth and fifth grade years and in the summer some PUTT PUTT was a big thing, we're talking. This is early, seventy, seventy, three, seventy, four, which now makes it sound, really old. But one of the MOMS or my mom would take to cut there in Tulsa on like one day weekday would have an all. You can play for a certain price. I mean they'd have contests today. An as tournament one you know you, only you only can make an year or tournament, and and so throughout the day we play until about one o'clock, and I can remember this I guess. My mom gave me just enough. Money you across the street to Arcelor creatures. And, then we come back and play some more. Picked up, go to baseball practice and do all over again the next week and I'm sorry, not mentioned mention is the real PUTT. These are like the orange, the orange rails like legitimate Putt Putt like TV tournaments on Saturday morning, but but. When they started doing that I kept thinking man ambush seem. Really not obviously but. I that was that was a lot of summer policy was. Going to? Going and doing baseball practiser game, and then we had a pool in our neighborhood. Right next door school and we go to the pool until Dr in May. Try to do it all over again the next week. You're beautiful. This was perfect. You've managed to hit all three openings today, and that is I got you on he is Richard Skinner. Check him out on twitter at local twelve, skinny, local, twelve, skinny and radium at local twelve dot com. You're the man. This is fun I. Appreciate it. Thanksgiving. Richard Skinner checking in from local twelve. Let's do this I'm hitting the magic button. I'm opening the lines for the first time tonight. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight hundred pounds, seven, hundred on at and T. Bowling alleys open today in Ohio Putt Putt and batting cages. Let's do an Ode to all three. If you have stories in tales of King of TV Bowling, if you bold today. A batting cages or see what I think of Putt Putt. Saturday morning tournaments and I think of Sterling Sterling worked at a PUTT PUTT. Course I've heard him. Tell those stories you and me along those lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T. I sat today at lunch, and I watched episodes of King of TB bowling I wrote down locations and host of the show and various bowlers I will give you some of those names as we continue and I invite you into the conversation next Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wwl w. Eight hundred thousand five seven hundred wwl w. our now carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance callister. In Odu to mainly bowling I certainly understand the the connection and the passion behind it in this community, and I thought it only obvious on a day where the bowling lanes are allowed to reopen, not at all are doing it today that we spend a little bit of time on bowling, and and sparked by the conversation with Thom Brennaman about king of TV Bowling and Richard Skinner and and Todd McGill and vic aiming to invite you into the mix I would highly recommend if you're on facebook or just go to YouTube. The King of TB bowling W- site with videos and I watched I jotted down today. competition from Western bowl. Super Bowl Erlanger Coleraine. Bowl. Hide hides lanes on. Chevy, Road Madison Bowl Waltz Center Lanes Cherry Grove. Lanes bellwood lanes stumps lanes North West lanes larue lanes. Host from Jack Moran. Thom Brennaman John Popovich slamming Sammy Coleman. Todd Donohoe I believe I did not see him actually on the match I watched, but I believe George Vogel, was the host of one of these Fred Khalil, Steve, Physique Jennifer Klay Camp I watched her co hosting and I watched her bowl in in one of the episodes of King of TV Bowling Bowler such as Regis Calabasas. Jack Sills Allen Runkel. Donahue's Greg Lowthian. Wally Studer names ring a bell. Did you ever compete on? King of TV? Bowling, you remember the show you're welcome. At Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one and pound, seven, hundred at and T. have. We. Go here, Steve. You're on seven hundred wliw. I remember L. Classic Bang us out. I think it was that Western hills because I live up. I was in Dayton at the time and we go down there and bowl neck. I think I lost him yes. honky classic originated in Nineteen, forty, three during World War Two and it's my understanding. That that will start up June the fifth. I think so one two three four five lines open at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one and pound seven hundred on at and T., Steve. You're on seven hundred wliw. You Don good. Thanks for calling. I don't have a king of TD. Bowling story but I've got a good bullying in golf and Cornwall Story. So my brother and I ever year competing and Ironman of event. That's to me and teams. And we start with three games bowling in the morning. Do eighteen holes of to me and scramble golf in the afternoon. Out KORNEL. Liked that. And you get points for each event depending on how you finish, and my claim to fame I guess is. The year my brother and I finished in first place in a field of forty five to ten teams. How `bout that I never heard of that? Yeah, so we do Gilmore you'll more bowling alley plug for them. they treat us right, and we have that events every year and typically do glenview for the golf and then finish up a cornall. Century in or some other place right for baby. so didn't really tie into your king CD bowling, but we were kind of King Bowling. Dolphin corridor for one absolutely. Hey Steve thanks for listening. Thanks for the call. Thank you? Let's do this afternoon. We'll continue this maybe for another segment or so look I will not pretend to be an expert on bowling I'm not I'm fascinated by what I've watched in leading to King of TV bowling. and. That is for you on a day. Where the bowling lanes reopen, that is for the bowling community, and maybe we'll do it for another segment I've got on this date in reds history at eight fifty, but certainly opportunities for another segment. I watched Chris Lube today I watched George Barlow Jim Massey Ray Taki. Peres I think it was bill Heflin. Jim Boeckler Kerry. Logan Eddie Jackson Steve Fair. Ron Horton Compete Millie Elliott Sandy. sexton Julie Pruitt I watched a Robin Boskin Pam was Xinchang I I believe it. was. I watched Regina snodgrass today? Alan Henderson Against Don. SIEG I I think it is apologies for the pronunciation I just went from one match to the other today. Doug Carol. Bob Perry run Boehner Bonnard. Bonnie bowling which I found perfect because. who better to be a bowler than somebody named Bonnie Bowling and I believe her husband Don Bowling. competed on King of TV bowling. His well Vicki Kesselman I think it is in the the video. I found from Fountains Square was nine, hundred, eighty five, and it was an exhibition promotion for the PBA Super. Bowl senior tour I believe it was, and they set up lanes on Fountain Square. And the lanes were provided from Princeton lanes after a flood and I guess the the lanes were a bit warped and they weren't gonNA. Use them anymore, but they used them on Fountain Square for this exhibit. Your stories as we continue. Let's check news bottom of the hour a couple of open. We'll run this to the top of the are earn carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Eight thirty eight on the no seven hundred WWL W. it's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Arnelle carriers your global transportation provider. VISIT OUR LLC DOT COM Kelsey chevrolets open for sales and service with a new state of the art. COLLISION REPAIR CENTER COMING IN JULY GARY Jeff Walker coming up top of the hour with the nightcap from nine to midnight. You and me between now and then, and we'll add in a on this date in reds history coming up at about twelve minutes, but we have a phone conversation to work towards for the first time tonight. Let's go here in del Hi, Rick, you're on seven hundred W W welcome to sports talk. Lance, how are you? I'm very well. Thank you for calling. What's what's on your mind? Well friend of mine. His father was on. EPA King Bowling quite a few times. Action, he was a mail carrier for the west side from Bridgetown. How about that? They probably bowl out of Western ball and stomps, and maybe glenmore. And another friend of mine and I grew up with kids. was either his brother-in-law, or a cousin was tragically killed in a car accident up at Taylorsville reading and seventy five, and like five three hundred games. Yes and matter of fact that his daughters both got scholarships for. Tat. Yeah. Yeah, the Cantor family was bowing family Nice Nice. Eddie Jackson. He was a mail carrier and he was on Bpa King of quite a few times, yeah. All the matches I watched today I. I wrote down his name so I saw him at some point. That's That's very cool. Rick I appreciate Sharon the story. All right, thank you have a great night. I love jewelry like that. Oh, I slipped in my apologies. And I'm thinking the like the the the payout. It's not like thousands of dollars. You. What wh- what would have been like two hundred and fifty bucks advanced to the final five hundred. Somebody knows a pay scale of what it would should've asked any or Tom about that, but you know the standard like the check presentation at the end, and if you advanced, you got a check in advance to the next round, but I the thing that blows me away in as Tom mentioned if you did if you did weekends at that time on Channel Five were the guy who did the the. The King of TV. Bowling them where I mean. We're talking about heavy hitters here a Jack. Moran and John Popovich in Todd Donahue. I remember Todd Donohoe for time out for Trivia. Tight out for Trivia. was like a TV game show and Steve? physiques early did reds, Games and Fred? I remember. Fred Khalil because he did sports in Indianapolis at wish TV for a time and I want to say. Did did at some point during the years of King of t-boned could Nick Clooney of Don King of TB Bowling. Did I that I remember that from that from the notes from a few years back because I was always blown away by the names and faces of those who were attached to show that ran from what late fifties up to up to like two thousand nine I loved seeing come back. Let's go back to the phones. How `Bout here and Rod? You're on seven hundred. WWL W. Welcome to sportstalk. All sure a couple of names that nobody's really mentioning with the three lady that ran it for quite some time. With both believable then went to Michelle harbors and chaffee box. Heard Women that were in charge of the whole thing that really every weekend all right, another name was as. Was? On the show yes. Yes, in fact I saw I saw him do a couple of the episodes. I watched today absolutely. Quite some time, but they ask. Seven fifty. If you were to kings, seven fifty for the king am I to come back then. They changed it to a thousand dollars later on, but you didn't get to come back later on. Episodes. I, like it. I'm writing all this down. Appreciate your listening. Thanks for the call. Right have a great night I like the stories I like the background about Somerville would go. Stephan on seven hundred wwl w welcome to the show. Very good. Thank you thank you I grew up in Westchester? Fairfield and my parents. I'm sixty, so we're going back, but they bowled all the time and so I got. When I You. Build. More Oh Coma Now more, but it was hoping lanes there all right okay, and then they had to show their and then pretty darn sure they did it at personable at Tri County also. We. We always went to church on Sunday morning, but when when the bowling was at those places we went to that and it was very very early. She had to go and it was. That must have been a really cool experience. When you're little, because then we would turn around. Come home and watch the watch it on them. If we. I don't ever remember being cold because there was plenty of people that showed up for those things and. Greenlee Popular and I'm hoping we go bowling this weekend so assalants. Win So, but it was a huge. Deal and it would be neat to see it. Come back out. That's good stuff, Stephanie. I really appreciate you calling tonight. Okay. Night all right I. Want see come back on TV. I can't believe there should be you know what there should be. There should be A. Show I. How about a weekly bowling? Show on the radio is well? You could do it down that island fifteen thirty, it would be called strikes and spares Saturday strikes and spares the greater, Cincinnati Bowling seen on ESPN, fifteen thirty, and the engineer would be in the producer would be a big day. The sheriff every Saturday, but it could air from like seven to nine am every Saturday, and it would be the the four one one. The WHO what when where? Why are the bowling seen three hundred games that week interviews with the bowlers upcoming. Guest appearance by Todd, McGill, and vic, Ayman, and everything else I like that strikes inspect. What would you listen to all Saturday? Morning Strikes and spares on ESPN, fifteen, thirty seven am to nine am. I'm an idea guy. I got a whole bunch of things rattling around my head up here independence, we go. Jim You're on seven hundred, W, W welcome. They Lance how you doing I'm very well. Thank you for calling here. They have a personal bowling story air routine. So this past year's Eve. gotten older. Get together friends and they're trying to do something earlier in the day not to be out late and that kind of thing, so this year decided. Let's all go bowling because it probably hasn't been and maybe fifteen twenty years since then mold and it if the heyday average probably like sixty five every guy. Okay. I got a set the stage for you so. We went to Cherry Cherry, grow bowling alley around beach long. Yeah, and they have. They have like two hour blocks of time. You can sign up for and so we went from a mountain I was like six or something like that. So when we get a pretty or not pretty, but include the pizza some during such. So born first game and I kind of got the cops busted off I brought my own ball. Everybody else else's using the PSYCHEDELIC. and. Game, might start out strike. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Man Audit out. Well about sixty to it. Felt like Tom, Brown and Nobody talk to me. Nobody was sitting by me. I started this routine. where I would do exact same thing. Every time I take a sip altogether each and I drive my hands off got started this. Got Tried to get in the zone. Well after I ate. All of a sudden up on the screen was a countdown. Two minutes all. Whole. My friends frankly go up there. He was doing here. They're gonNA. Shut the lanes off. I'M NOT GONNA no. He went up and he had this look on his face, and he didn't say anything like. Oh my God. It seemed to mind, so I get to the night and. You know. By them. and. I I gotTA spanning none. So I went up and I said. You know hit eight. So well, we would electric finish. I wish I would have meant that what? This is not after not bowling for about fifteen years eight in a row, it was unbelievable. What a story that's! That's good man. I'm glad you called that tonight. Jim Thank you okay all right good night. I can't give me that love. All these stories head down the stretch. Due on this date in reds, history grabbed Stephen Lawrenceburg. Heck, I could grab you. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T. on a day. Bowling alleys allowed to reopen in Ohio, in Ode to Bowling in the Greater. Cincinnati Kentucky area at seven hundred WWL W. The music signifies one thing. Tom Check out things that happened on this date in reds history, we begin in eighteen, eighty six. The reds lose to the athletics on this date in Philadelphia eighteen to ten. They committed seventeen errors that day out. This state, one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty five. It was Ruth Day at Crossley field reds win six to three over the Boston Braves in front of Twenty, four, thousand, three, hundred and sixty one. Babe Ruth's first nationally game in Cincinnati, he went over four. He had homered three times a day before in Pittsburgh over four on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred five at cross late. Nineteen. Forty two frank, McCormick has his consecutive game streak of six hundred and fifty two straight games, and he said at the game with a muscle issue in his back that to this day remains the second longest consecutive game streak in Franchise History Pete's at six, seventy, eight Frank McCormick at six, fifty, two, nineteen, fifty-six on this date Johnny Klipstine in two other reds, pitchers spend nine, a third hitless innings, versus the braves at County Stadium but Milwaukee rallies in the eleventh and wins the game two to one out. This date in one thousand nine seventy pedro or bone nearly starts a brawl what it was in his debut with the reds. The reds were swept in a double header in San Diego more bone hit nate Colbert, the benches nearly emptied, and Pete rose held more bone back and kept a brawl from ensuing the state nineteen eighty-seven Dave Pirker. Ninth inning home run at Riverfront beats the cubs three two to Bob. Dernier went up against the wall, leapt caught it, but when he banged into the wall, the ball popped Atavism mid over the wall for the game winning home run. This. Let Me Backtrack Nineteen, seventy five. The red swept a doubleheader against the expos at Riverfront Stadium. They'd won six in a row. And this was the moment. The big red machine really started rolling. They would win forty one of fifty in that stretch those two doubleheader game the Games, they lasted two hours and twenty four minutes two hours thirty one minutes on this date nineteen ninety reds over the expos five three Berry Larkin at a two run single in the nine to win it. Twenty nine and ten on this date about nineteen ninety-three three, Tim Belcher member him tosses a one hitter to beat the braves at riverfront forty nothing. The loan braves hit dion. Sanders doubled in the first inning. That was it. And on This Day two thousand twelve reds beat. The rockies tend to three at great American ballpark. The relievers, the hoover. La-, cure on drew's and Marshall. Spin five and a third shutout innings to bail out Mike leake Miguel Cairo homered Chris. Highs E homered and Ryan Ludwig homered and the reds ten three win all of it happening on this date in reds, history all right through the phone calls quickly. Let's go here in Lawrenceburg Hi Steve. Are you, Sir I. Am well. Tell me a story. So. Sorry I'm from South Texas originally. Used to come up to very high on the summer. GotTa Watch a guy on him a Nick Pogo saying okay. Who maybe start both. You know the story about Nick. Nick wasn't a bowler. Nichols pitcher went to Florida state because they're out a shoulder. McCain Bowler S. thirteen. Thirteen rings in one LAS. Vegas shooting I know. Got To, work with him at Lawrence. Perk Chevrolet back in the day. And you talk about a trooper that man I had molded fifteen years, and he brought me back the polling. He probably pretty suspenseful. You've. How about all because of a baseball injury? How about that kept molly man? Hey, Steve, thanks, Buddy, appreciate your listening. Thank you, squeeze into more. Hamilton gene welcome to seven hundred W. W sportstalk talk. Hey how you doing, I am well, thank you for calling. I gotta say it was a great feeling to get back out on the lanes today I went out to North West lanes and I both five games. How back? To to all five game. That's not bad. You got a long lay-off. That's your role today. Yeah! I. Can remember my my grandfather. I got me back into bowl, and he would go down to Columbia bowling with all his buddies from champion, and he'd take me down there, and he'd set me up on the lane. You blamed the and give me a ball and say that, and that's what y'all. Nice! That's a good story gene. Thank you for sharing tonight. I would definitely do Ninja that striking spare show too I thought that was a good idea. Wasn't it great idea I? Don't see what I can do. Thank you, gene. I have a good night one more. We can get the final word in Cincinnati Jane. You're on seven hundred WWL W. I tell you a quick story. One Weber! basketballers that ever bowled in Cincinnati. I I recognize that name. A TV when he was nineteen years old. I'll tell you my quick story. I started dating dating for a bad year. I really didn't know much about blowing. Over to Montgomery, they were blowing the match game for the state over there, and he walked in with me and we're talking. Is I'M GONNA shoot three hundred. I went yeah. Yeah Yeah. Night. Shot at three hundred. Cow. For you and he has now passed away, but he had six three hundred rings comes to ninety nine. He's highest state. Halsey we traveled all over the country and I can't tell you. We had a great life when it came to that all mad Jane. That is a perfect way to end the show. Thank you so much for listening and it really means a lot. You call tonight. Thank you have a great night all right? Thank all right. That was fun I I figured as much as we search for topics in times like this. This was dropped right in my lap. I sit if bowling alleys are opening today, I got to be remiss if I, didn't talk about bowling and the history and the heritage and the. The legacies here in this town and the appreciation for for bowling, so thank you appreciate hearing from everybody in the the bowling community. Let's do it tomorrow night. I'll follow reds hot stove. We'll go seventy nine o'clock and see what we can make out of it. Your News is next Gary Jeff. Walker serves up the NIGHTCAP. The home of the reds, seven hundred wwl W!

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Gene Orza, former MLB Players' Association Chief Operating Officer

The Twelve Six Podcast

1:17:58 hr | 1 year ago

Gene Orza, former MLB Players' Association Chief Operating Officer

"I tell people I live two miles from the Bagel. Opinion New York. Obviously, it's been one time since I been there. I left. I left New York on. We left New York on February nineteenth. With Africa marched I right in the middle of vandamme. Trip was cut short. We got back here on March twenty billion here. So my landlord called me, they asked me for commission to go in the. To drop off all the mail that's been accumulating in the mailroom, so. I gotta get back. I don't know when it's going to be. To New, York Seattle. He'd you need a gallon? To? You can always count on me. That kind of a WHO'd sneak you a file past prison. y'All through the end agree. A everybody, welcome back to the twelve six podcast. I'm your host Colin, mccue and today's guest, who you just heard is longtime major league players Association General Counsel. Gene. Orza gene was sweet enough to sit down with me over skype and talk about all things, baseball life and even Broadway musicals. He's truly one of the most knowledgeable baseball people you will ever hear, and just a great human being on top of all of that. At this moment in time when it feels like everything is kind of falling apart around us. Talking with him gave me a solid dose of hope for the future, so without further ado, I hope you enjoyed today's conversation gene Orza we. Can always count on A. Matter of fact, if you on an ill fated love. You can always count on vk. Great to have you on the show, thank you for. Being with US and Cell selfishly. This is one of the interviews that I've been looking forward to the most being a union man, yourself and me have a little bit of experience at at this point in time, but also I just hear you're a great person from from my agent. Who knows you for a long time? So thanks for being here. You Might WanNa get a new age I. Don't know, but that was kind of You're my second guess in a row. That's in Seattle right now. My. My last one was Eric. O'Flaherty and we talked a little bit about what it's like out there, but from your perspective I know you split time between New York and you've been out there in Seattle. What's what's the vibe like around there? It's pretty. Tight with a lot down here. They're still Anybody close attention to you'll recall that. Early on pandemic when it was still, an epidemic Seattle was more or less like a half dead of. Cases Yeah. Earliest debts Swaran Seattle Center, and now it's you know it's a tribute to the degree to which the populace here has undertaken social distancing, and you know claiming the hands and being very careful etc.. That it's it's an. It's a fairly enlighten towns. So. You're saying the protocols work they they work. Yeah, there's no doubt about it I mean. You you can see what's happening in Sweden when protocols are employed that right? It's just there are no happy solutions a good solution, so it's going. This is very very surreal. Yeah, not unlike anything in my lifetime and I've been around seventy three going on seventy four years, so and never expected anything like this. In the long term consequences on ones without a doubt, I think both your economic -Ly from a health standpoint from an international relations standpoint, just kind of goes on and on. It's a bunch of concentric circles. They're all I. Don't know. Know where I don't know where this ends, but it ends up looking different I'm sure on the backside while also runs even deeper than data comes the very nature about I mean. We're supposed to be social animals you live in villages was supposed to interact with oath to have some creation of diversity in here are being encouraged to be quote, unquote, socially distant from our fellow human beings. We're all in this together. At the same time. We have to be a car. Secondly had a personal thing with me. Said I'm afraid at a lot of what's happening now is going to result in more on school. But I'm a big fan of people going to school of meeting of the students and interacting within learning from them. A friend of mine was an academician at University of Chicago. Who says when you think about the best seventy percent what you learn in college? For example you learn to interact with your fellow. Students doubt now now all going to stay home and study, and not seeing anybody. It's going to have a profound impact on generations I think so. We have a lot of. Thinking to do ahead of us I, think without a doubt we do you mentioned villages? We are creatures who live in villages and your village of choices. Is New York? They've been hit extremely hard by this How do you feel about the city right now? Versus what you? What you feel have felt about it in the past. Probably, a bad person task because New York's in my blood. Air I am told all my friends there that Moore is like a ghost town. You can get from the Manhattan, Kennedy Airport and fourteen minutes apparently, but I don't WanNa be there. It's just you know it's to me. It's you know it's it's A. it's everything about America is wrapped up in New York. History people instead versity. It's its problems. It's an every everything on a grand scale I'll forget. New York is more than twice as big as any city in America ain't going to million people Seattle's about six hundred thousands could figure out the difference their. New York is A. While you know when a Pope John. Paul visit in New York, you said it was a pleasure to be in the center of the universe. So the polk says that I guess it's pretty. Pretty Dale Station what people. If they think hard about what New York means the country, so yeah I miss. I'm told that it's unlike then see all the restaurants closed. St some vacant than traffic on. Someone I did a did a radio show for Wfan this past weekend and Host at random sent the photo. Forty Ninth Street going. West from Sixth Avenue and going East from six. And then literally was not a single person on street. It's crazy. You can probably see from river to river. Engines hard to imagine. But nonetheless I do want to get back to my mail. I? I believe it will still be there for you and hoping I've talked to Garrett, Cole a little bit, and he's you know. I think just north of the city right now. doing his training and everything, but you know the city is the city ready for I think everybody is for some semblance of. Something that they can remotely think of as normal and. Baseball is baseball wants those words. Is a big big sports. A huge jump money radio show so many magazines so many writers. It's just you know. Even if there are offense and They'll still be watching those games. They'll still be arguing in Belton. The next day and criticizing this move and everybody forces associated with baseball on the periphery would have been first of all the major league player. Had he not hurt his knee the twelve? The Guy came into the little league. Everybody will be a better manager and would make better trades stressed. That's just the way. Story I always tell people is that when Bobby Thomson's shot heard round the world, thirty one thousand people attended that game and yet somehow there are four hundred, seventy, eight thousand. Who Swear they were there. So Fans are pretty greed. if New York is in your blood, that baseball is for sure in your blood as well year your resume is about as long as any baseball and that I. Can Imagine? You came into baseball in. It went eighty, four, nineteen, eighty-four June nineteen eighty-four from the from Washington DC. I was chief counsel to one of the board members of the National Labor Relations Board. I didn't even applied for the job. They called me. into alleged. Has It according to Don here? They interviewed someone for the job. 'cause Don moved up to acting executive director and in this interview. This person mentioned me. I got a call. My office I thought my secretary was kidding site I think it's the baseball players. Association's calling. So, they heard, that was obviously a labor lawyer but I. also I was born only five six blocks from Yankee stadium I- parents were. Old School talion born in Italy. Anki. Talibans Crow Seti Dimaggio berube pseudo. So. It was an out blood early on I. Remember going to ballgames literally sixty five sixty seven years ago. Yeah we been, we were always. We grew up in a baseball virement and other things to any baseball was a fundamental part. My grandmother you know could not read or write English retaliated never went to school. She is to clean animals, Informative League, but as a result she's loves to watch TV and of course she loved the Yankees had all the Italians, and she loved talking to the television. You know I could have done that. Jerk in something like that. Struck out pinch hitter came up and struck out then guys, you know. She gave headaches in the following day, but some baseball's always been very close to my brother and I both big big baseball fan. I like that such a universal thing I can see my mom and my grandmother, doing the same thing down in Atlanta Georgia when the you know, the braves are really bad in the eighties, and then really good in the nineties and doesn't matter whether they were good or bad. They're still yelling at the TV. Bobby a different move. You know it doesn't. Graham and I bet they don't. Matter she talked. So you had a chance. Did you chance to see Marvin Miller at the end of his career when he came in always dawn? Yell Yes, but actually even though Marvin was no longer officially place association start consulted with. But I became very close more. I handle a lot of the things that were were issues in. He retired as medical expenses, you know. Things like that you know. Dealing with the federal government social security as you got older, some a modern very clubs. Actually, we spent a lot of time together. Even go Marvin left than eighty three, but he retained it was retained as a consultant, and he was really consulted through the five negotiations which participated. In August nineteen eighty five models stole. It wasn't uncommon at all from Auburn to you. Know I the contact humans, and what do you think about this more often than that? As as we got more mature and older and father away for Marvin he disagreed with a lot of the things he did. He was a steadfast is a unique fellow. Amazing Guy. I've talked to a lot of baseball. People actually recently who have talked about the idea of Marvin being. Being a a real shame that Marvin, not being inducted into the baseball hall of fame. As as big of a role as he played in creating the game that we know today, do you? Do you feel the same way about that? Warm salute red. Barber, said, the three most important people in the history of baseball. Babe Ruth. Sane, the sport from black SOx scandal. Jackie Robinson, who saved sport from the Albatross of the combination at sport exhibited and Marvin who introduced free agency? because. Most people don't realize they think that marvins introduction of free agency was great for players. A, what age! What what free agency also clubs from the reserve clause? The reserve clause can be a an albatross around the neck of a club. The illustration I always give people. Is You know the Houston Astros have the? Third Best Second Baseman in baseball and he hurts ankle these out. You know and maybe Korea. While if everybody already has the best shortstop available guess what second. Baseman Bill. Houston can only get the thirty first. That second Baseman, but with free agency comes along, and you know at the end of the season. You know maybe. Is a great second basemen East Sixth Best Second Baseman. I'll go after him, so it actually liberated the clubs to have greater freedom in the molding and shaping of clubs themselves because the reserve clause was. That's why you had so many. Decades of ineptitude on the product clubs before the break up. The Philadelphia Athletics from Nineteen Thirties to the nineteen sixties, the Philadelphia. Chicago cubs. Those teams warrant. They weren't stupid. People the Front Office. They just couldn't do anything because they will bound by the reserve. Close with something went wrong. They will left their own farm system to fix it. So more liberated the clubs almost as much as he liberated the plates. That's I. Think what readiness talking about, but yeah, he's definitely one of the three most important people, my book and the in you can't tell first of all, and at the baseball. Hall of fame is called the National Baseball Hall of fame and museum. In Museum. Can you imagine museum baseball without more of a militant? No, could you imagine a museum of Modern Art? Pablo Picasso when you wake up one morning and local constant when you museum. Let's Craig. It's not a real museum. So what marvins induction finally does the whole is it gives it often tissot which you didn't have before. It was not Benthic Museum. Missing somebody is poor. Assemble has more of A. Absolutely and you know you came in right at the back end of of his being there and worked with another very important man in baseball don, Fehr. or For many many years, what were some of the differences between the way? Marvin worked and the way Don worked because I've heard. I wasn't around for any of that but I've heard from baseball people. that it was different, but both very unique and powerful in their own right. They, both shared one thing in common. They really had difficulty lasting. HSA I don't know what it was, but I used to say needs. What's using the everybody dogs about the. Record, this you know, but the difference in in one fundamental import respect, but each was Difference was a good thing. Gone. Whatever else people say thought brilliant lawyer, just really great tactician. Very perceptive of what it almost looks like manipulation, but what it really is strategizing tactic strategy tactics don was really really good at that and I learned a lot from it also great lawyer. Unfortunately, he spoke like voyeur in. Concern, some people off you know. If I have A. Hurt phrase a wish guys like bj's Tom Glavin with me right now. 'cause we use with our dog would say to the contrary withstanding. Ugly. Talking amongst ourselves, but more than had a quality that gone didn't have, but I've never met anybody who did. and it's really A. I think it's the key to understanding modern success. Marvin could go into a meeting wanting to come out of it with the players feeling a certain way. He then conducted discussion, and at the end of that meaning all the players to walk out of the meeting, saying they just decided something that Margaret did agree with, but they decided it anyway. He had this way of making. You feel that. What you? The sign? That really wasn't what he decided. He for needed again he was. As more of us, conductor of socratic way of discussing, even at the board needs able was like this you? He would always ask questions that the answers to which revealed the bankruptcy of your position. Was? A brilliant brilliant negotiator, brilliant conductor meetings, all of the players shelf they own. They decided after meeting with more. It was their decision, you know. We were the ones who decided to go on strike in Nineteen, eighty-one. No, it wasn't warm was postal. Guess what Bobby was posted? You just felt like supposed to. He wanted you to make your own. So would invest it, and that's that was the key to modern success as far as. A remarkable of a leader. Could lead people to a place. Don't they should be? That was in their best interest, but did it in a way. That they owned it themselves that that wasn't enough. I'm doing 'cause Marvin instance a good idea. I'm doing this because. They want to do. And that was a that was the key to so much of the solidarity at the plays exhibited over the years through the nineteen ninety-four strike. You know it's interesting because when you think of baseball players as a casual fan, you kind of I kind of put them into two categories. You have like the old timey baseball guy who just what about his business did his job? He's kind of your stereotype or of what you think of baseball player, but then once the union came into being. It felt like there was this change. Players became a little bit more thoughtful, a little bit more engaged in their business and I don't have that always. Always been the case. Do you think the players should always felt that way, but had no avenue of working that out well in in in a way, I mean it was first of all, but in a way best way to look at, it might be more once told the I conducted about ten hours of interviews for Cornell Law School of of Marvin and I asked essentially that same kind of question play a core likely. I got the one of the biggest issues you had to confront. And he said something which had stuck with me and I Got I got about. Hard and I think he had the nail right on the head. He said his. Problem I got the job was in leading. Making the players have better self esteem. The players didn't think they value. Dan Spent, so much time being told by management. Go out and when you know you're replaceable, not gonNA. Give you any money. We don't need you. We're the we're base that they actually felt like almost like an inferior product in the sport, and not really the very center of and some more than said the hardest thing he had do to overcome this lack of self esteem. At the players had when he first got there, and so he focused on satellite. He wanted play to feel proud of they were i Tony Card always quotes me about every goes anywhere about. About something! I One said in the speech that he was attending. But you know we don't know the exact numbers because it goes back to eighteen seventy one but baseball commissioner. Of Major Leagues began for purposes of keeping statistics records, and they made nine, hundred, sixty, nine eight. Put together historical commission. That concluded baseball should be regarded. The major leagues should be regarded as having begun eighteen, seventy six with the creation of the national. League of Professional Baseball Clubs. Mateen seventy six is one hundred forty four years ago. In those hundred and forty four years fewer than nineteen thousand human beings have played one day of baseball. Nineteen thousand people in one hundred and forty four years. If you want to call the AMA. Tomorrow more and say how many surgeons are there and the United States? Who are members of the IMAX? Get within in order you know, but those were not, but how many servings they would tell you one hundred ninety thousand. Ten Times more people who are surgeons today. And a played a game baseball, one hundred forty four years. These are very rare people. Mauldin understood that and he wanted them to understand. and. It was a message I. tried to get the players. Because of what more told me all the time you know, be proud of what you can do. No nobody can do this. Everybody thinks that can guy words knee playing days of this? But A. Few of the nineteen thousand people at one, hundred hundred and fifty years. That's that's a rare breed as a ram breed of a of artist. These guys are special. They have to have to feel that way. They have to understand. No I'm not this piece of Chattel not this guy. You can maneuver Take advantage of I'm not some stupid Jock I'm a major league baseball player, and there aren't very many of us. I am one of getting those players to feel proud is really really important. In terms of not only marlins dropped doing it. Today and everyday it's it's. It's really a key to maintain starting to the union. Having play core at feels good about themselves solid. That feels that they are worth while they are not going to be told that there by sports writers will by owners or general managers at their less than the artists. They are I think I think probably average fan would say that at this point. The pendulum has swung to the other side to where they would say they. They feel like players are not only. Proud of themselves, but probably they would call us greedy and call us your money hungry, and all of those things that we hear A. Basis, whatever money or labor is brought up in the baseball realm, but do you still think that that is something that players have to deal with on a daily basis is the past the. Pressure posed. To tell players what I used to tell books, those fans on radio host. Who felt that way? Came out close your eyes and make that. Guy Research. If, it was your son. Believe me. The difference between you know what the number is picking up three million and four million. If it was your son. That's much bigger difference than if some casual fans living in Queens eating slice of pizza about you know some ball play, you never met. An you don't know much about. Just close your eyes and mentioned that young man your son. Wouldn't you present his yeah? is players and kind of. Take away a lot of the strip away a lot of the the extra stuff around you. Re You do realize that players are just? Were just. People trying to do a job. And we have a lot of the same struggles that a lot of other people have, and the disparity comes when you start talking about pay you start talking about while you're getting paid way more that I'm getting paid, and you're getting to play a game, but the disparity between us in the odors also gigantic and. That's why I became so intrigued in what the union was about because it seemed very one sided, it filled, felt like it could get very one sided very quickly if there was not pushback from players, but you know at this point, it is hard because players, lives and personalities are more accessible than ever through social media and through. While really through all of Media The girls and information technology yeah, and so we I think it becomes personal. A lot of guys in a lot of ways and people wanna back off, but. Don't leave this point if you don't mind at least. Because there are two things that go into fan analysis of Fan, but fans bring to the question of what they feel about plays, first of all caught the beauty of baseball, and unlike basketball and football is played by people of ordinary dimension. You could be five flipped nine. You can be six foot tree. You can be fat. You could be skinny. You could be bald. Be Glasses locally. It's played by normal looking human beings as opposed to three hundred and forty pound, interior linemen and seven foot, two centers and six hundred five shooting guards. The other sports have become. The growth of species. Spatial! What that leads a lot of fans think. About baseball places that if just playing a game tonight, this Austria that is no artistry in that is to work with more blanche rump alleged told me that he would practice looking at a bad with one I. Just, put one on, so that his left eye to be trained on first base if a guy was on for his base so that he would know how fast they run to second on unattended steel. Towns don't think that happens, but guy training insult to see a game. Y You know it's. It's the the amount of street it goes into playing. Baseball is something that. Doesn't look that wake was not gonNA. They're not superhuman. You know in size dimension. The second thing is fans. No matter how much you tell this the matter. How many classical economists you roll out! Fans continue to believe that play a salaries. Did it take ticket prices when in fact they don't? Ticket prices are function of supply and demand, and they dictate salads every economist that you on both sides of the aisle. We'll tell you. At the driving force? The salaries is revenue principally from local and national television television revenue is the explosion of local revenue cable has contributed mightily to the revenue streams of the coins. They have the money. They WANNA. Spend it on plants and so players. They get paid because somebody has the money. Do you know few give column Cue Sixty million dollars for the next two years. It's not going to affect ticket price. What's GonNa Affect? Ticket? Prices is a sense of supplies, the man and the proof of that the to prove so that I always tell people I good matter of fact that a panel would rob. Them is one the Olympics. Olympics cost a fortune now. The athletes free. Why? Getting any raises. At Ten fifteen years ago to Florida, marlins decimated their payroll. Literally chopped up roll down to like fifty percent of what it was, and they raised the ticket price. Why don't think. It's ticket prices so that at fan out there. Who says you know what I your salary? You know you're you're you're you're paying for that? Chicken is determined by an understanding of what the supply and demand for tickets. That's all it's not player sounds those two things are. Something that plays just half to live those misperceptions on the part of fans that because baseball players like you look like a guy walking down the street. You're you're? You're just some guy walking down the street they can. If they put in the time you know, and secondly that that that that sixty five dollars vegetarianism function of this player getting paid twenty one million dollars. It's not. Know it really, it really isn't. If. I've learned anything it's that's. That's very very true. We've seen clubs become more and more and more valuable over the last ten fifteen twenty years exponentially more valuable, and like you said a lot of it is because of the TV TV revenue from local and national TV's. And now we're kind of in a situation in which there aren't going to be no fans in the stands if we come back to baseball. And this is the revenue that they will be that they will be leaning on heavily in order to subsidize the both their employees, their employees and the players on the field. Where do you feel like we're at right now? From? Get a sense that we're at right now. In terms of baseball negotiation, I've been have been kind of in the middle of it, and it's been a back and forth thing and I feel like we're close, but there seems to be this history of owners. Saying while there's just no way we could do that. There's just no way we can make that happen. Is that how it is always been? I think in fairness clubs. This is a unique situation. This is now without. This! I know from experience that if you're not there if you're not talking to play his every day if you're not in the office, reading documents if you're not in interacting with club officials. Have Intelligent view. You can have opinions all sorts writers you know. I got in trouble with some sports writers on that trouble, but they were surprised when I defended rob. Manfred when the way he handled. The Astros Madda saying you don't understand. He knows a lot more about what's entity that you you know, so. You have some intellectual humility about that with that said. To me, it seems to me. This is just I could be completely more a not there and I'm certainly not injecting myself into negotiations I wouldn't do that to Tony in a million years, but. To me I think the big ENCHILADA is the postseason. National Television Package for the Post that they need to play. The clubs feel they cannot lose that if they lose that. They're really going to get hammered. And so the that the principal objective is. How what how many games do we need? To produce teams that we can hold our head up high and say these are the best teams in based in jean-marc used to say, show me hundred game schedule, and I'll tell you the best teams baseball. I don't need to do. One hundred sixty two games I can do it in You'll notice all his newspaper articles lately about the frequency with which the team that's ahead at the end of Ninety Games is the best team at the end of the year. That's all fence public by Major League Baseball. Then there in search of. Their in search of the number of games they must play such that when they played at the end of that, they have a real posts And secondly I think that. They came in with a number lower than. They think is is the maximum other words eighty two game proposal, probably legally. They want the players by guests. This out of the clubs operate no one of the advantages. We always had clubs always thought we were scooping. Up. You know perfectly happy to have made that in my own view again. I could be wrong about this. My own view that the clubs want to play more games. What they want the players to ask for it so that it looks like a get. Okay well all right. If you hundred games will play one hundred games by, you gotTa do something for us on some side. You know trading off something that they were going to give you anyway. You know they. I think they. They left some room there for the players, blue and mob, and may met. The players think that they were getting it. We got the clubs to give us twenty games more when clubs are perfectly happy to give it, and so the issue is going to be what Claes associations willing to pay. And I hope not very much for a proposal would says comes back and says we think we can play on tunes or ninety nine Games whatever the number might be, but that number seems to be a little bit. and. I think, it's low deliberately. They want the players to feel that. They extracted so that they can get some things. I mean there. There are some things clubs their proposal. that a lot of nerve. To do somethings. I just just mentioned they. They think people forgot just mentioning a fifty fifty revenue split. You know sounds awfully like a salary cap this. I WANNA I WANNA take. Out Stick on this for one second because I think this is something that people get misconception about. People think of revenue splits in the. NBA is revenue split. League but it's a salary cap league. The NHL has a revenue split, but it's a salary. Cap League. What is what is the thing that players have been? Trying for while Y, Y wife players been anti salary cap in what is the what is the focus of that? You know you can get lost in the forest notice. The trees are Jew. Wants salary cap because it holds salaries down low within the what they otherwise would be pencil. They come up with all miss. They want about how salary cap creates partnership, which helps the sport to grow Baloney. The salary cap retard salaries. As a negative in fact, Akron Free Agency because teams that are at a cab cannot participate in market and Dr Price You. Know do this. Ask any organization like the NHL of the NFL. We've got has salary as the management is, they would since they're spending so much money in play, salaries preferred not to have the salary cap it go back on limited free agency. You won't get single person that so be incident. Very simple players aren't stupid. They know that clubs personal. The origin salary cap remember was David Stern's belief. That, he agreed with the NBA. This is pretty bird magic. This is a or right around birth magic this Preah Michael Jordan. A. He believed that the NBA was a needed salary relief so yeah Indian seventy nine. The camp was designed to give salary leaks. So, The the reason why players were opposed to the salary cap is a as a negative impact on salaries pencil. It's as simple as that and. What cobs did was went in pushing the salary cap as hard as they did. Is. They just simply underestimated the degree to which players feel a connection with the praise. Who came before them? They they didn't done, you know. In the the NBA and the NFL the breaking away from this model now lately, but in the in the beginning. They didn't engage in collective bargaining. They engaged in the settlement of antitrust. Lawyers in the courtroom, negotiating a basic agreement as a settlement would draw the antitrust claims that will be put baseball players because baseball was subject to the antitrust laws for the longest time. Baseball players had actual negotiations. They were in the room. They will negotiate. IT WASN'T A. It wasn't gonNA fear and gene wars, you know. People like that it was the players when negotiating. We would their spokespeople, but they negotiated that lead to a greater feeling of solidarity with the players UK before, and how much time you have about, say a great story about. The nineteen, ninety, four, Nineteen ninety-five strike, and a player to whom. All players all great debt. A player who was up a player who lost yeah really Scott Scott Sanderson. Obviously you know your strike you. Have you know two hundred fifty, two hundred sixty two reaches two hundred thirty eight days. A lot of players to resolve is so good, but not as strong as somebody. That is the beginning you know, etcetera, and then some disaffection, so we call a big meeting in California three hundred players show up room, and you know this this this Oh, that play wants to say a few words about why we might want to consider giving up. This said we're play. Baseball gotTA. GET BACK TO WORK CLUBS Are attending, and they actually do put players in. Saint uniform numbers as the players on strike in Spring Training Games. And we have this big meeting and Scott Sanderson gets up and I'd like to show of hands. I like anyone who believes. That we should give the players who come after US less than we received from the players who went before us. And he heads. Not one hand went up and I turned to lauren rich at the time repeated. Please association I said. Clubs don't have a chance because what Scott was able to do. was He captured full the plays? Really what issues you have certain you you. You have certain benefits. They didn't come to you from like Manna from head. They came to you through the hard work in the solidarity players. Who went before you? That's their legacy. And now it's your legacy to do the same for the players would come after you. Because you don't have is to have this fight. I will mention the player. But I you know. He was talking about how you know. How happy was his contract? I said to him happy sh happy I said. This is not about happiness. What this is about is about your willingness. Give players who come after you less than you yourself end this contract. You're so happy. Would you didn't get it? 'cause you're a great bulk Lisette to I saw only maze play. Your break all play. Don't get me wrong. You're a great foreplay. But I saw was based. He what's Willie? Mays was better than you. He's not making your make in. A didn't make what you bank can because. You have been given by people like Willie Mays, great great fighter for the. People like you know rusty saw Binge Canseco the all those guys from a prior generation. They did this for you. You know it was they had Dave winfield sign? In December of nineteen, eighty signed a contract for the next ten years. Set for his terms and conditions of employment. Therefore, the eighty-one Strike eighty-five strike, the ninety lock out in the ninety four strike had no bearing. On his life is contract was there yet? He was one of the strongest members of the. And I always tell people when feel asked feel one time, send a lot of courage, which did as is that. I didn't want to be known as the Guy who took away. macgyver who asked me what I had from the players who came before that sense of continuity that sense legacy. Is really the key to That plays onto the it may fate I. Don't know I. Hope Not. But I know there are people at the Players Association innings I always remind them. Who who who send that message out that you have a responsibility to the players you don't know the names of. Coming after you, the two, thousand, twenty, nine, two, thousand, thirty, one, because what you have in the year two thousand twenty was given to you by players in the nineteen seventies, one thousand nine hundred eighty s nineteen ninety s. You owe them. And so as a result, you don't want to be the guys break. That Greece should be. That's really good stuff. Yeah, Mike. Mike Moyle. My agent was really close with with Scott and. I've heard I've heard that story before. It's that still when you think about it from a player's perspective of still kind of gives you chills. Negotiation was obviously. The hardest and longest one that's taken place in modern baseball history, but do you have a specific? Negotiation or time at the bargaining table that you remember the stands out for you over all the rest. Well is trump as first of all the is that notion? How strong the players! The clubs minor league camps in January of Nineteen ninety-five, trying to pressure place break. Two hundred thirty eight day strike the thing I remember most is at the end of the year when we return to work I remember a lot of funny things I can tell you a couple of museum. Yeah, yeah! But thing I remember most at the end of the year I looked at the players who played in Spring Training Games. Not One active plant. There wasn't there were there were former players out of baseball oil. Can Boyd or somebody like that, but. Active players went on strike in Nineteen ninety-four. What? Went to work. Nobody crossed the line. Not a single person has never been a strike like that River Rouge, most famous right by APPS in Allah in American history. To work. They were replacements and scabs in that strike, not want. In. In the industry greats I call it the great strike of Nineteen, Ninety four and I call it that for another reason that I think about at the end the strike is how all these people are taking credit for quote, unquote the peace. At that that has you know and you may have heard. Say this in the past, but you know. Management taking credit for the wake repeats. We've had since nineteen. ninety-six is like the Japanese taking credit for the United Nations. no. We beat out of you. Know you, you want it. The salary cap we forced. You're not to get to to to submit not to having a sound cabinet. As a result, we don't negotiate about salary caps anymore. Okay, Bob in regular negotiation now. Because now we're talking about the same thing. We're the same. Before we were in different looms. We took the salary cap off the table. And that's the reason what is laying peaks because of the personalities that came with that. It is because the salary cap. The contentious issue is no longer on the table. I'll tell you one quick story about the other thing I remember. And I can't mention his players. They're in, because I don't say in ridicule I love the Guy, but it really was when. Before, Sony something my majles famous. Nobody. Really knew who she was and she spelled. The name s o t o Ma. So we. are going back toward renegotiating the backs work agreement before the return to. And it's making the paper is. PITCHER ON DETROIT's. Since me Sinoe hands now going back toward 'cause. What style minded on? Pause I said I'm sorry what he's away reading the papers that Todd Stottlemyre. Then strike. Saying something my all Sodom Layer S- tunnel Meyer. A, why does this guy think that we will be on strike for two hundred thirty days when all we add to do? WHO's talked to talks? And I lost I said I won't say his name. How would you possibly think todd? It was the key to resolving this matter all these meetings we've had. Is it all right? Don't get upset I'll inside. This red I was old. It's automobile had ended. I said. Okay Todd. Steinmeyer boy I tell you. Oh, my Gosh, yeah, we're not dumb. Players are not dumb, but we have our moments. Notes. Saint play at one time so me reading a book during the corks. And, he had a because. You said you're always reading your read a lot of books Ha I, said. I'm from you know average reader, but I read yeah. I said how about you? What do you? He said to me literally, said to be comic books account. So, he was a great guy. Great Guy, but you know you. was preoccupied with learning how to coach slider. Union is then there, but you mean those guys in the Union to just this that. Apply it's relates that they see that. You, don't want all plays marching to the same drum that you do want them appreciated each other in sticking together as players yeah I mean there are as many different personalities in baseball as there are players in baseball, and not everybody is going to be you know academic or involved specifically in union in negotiating matters, but they are equally as important when it comes to these bargaining issue is their players just like us? Who have we're going to have to deal with the baseball world that we are creating at the moment, so yeah, you're right. Now even with the cultural expansion of cultural differences with so many Latin players coming in the onus on us to protect the rights of those players, specifically, as well as is unique and. I'm sure you've seen a lot of that. Yeah. It actually angered me in some respects because there is this faint hint in the media, sometimes that a lot in American players may be weaker 'cause they need the money more. They come from socioeconomic conditions, and they said the same thing about black clint black, but they're not as strong union as you know. As as the white players and I always tell people. They got it exactly backwards, totally wrong. Let Me March into. was strike with people wanted to stand oppression. You give me blacks Latinos. Alone the clubs you know, forget that the best union members there that you know you guys thought this on. It's it's your own prejudices that make you think of these turns believe me oriented might be this guy out. Here is doing this or this guy out there, but as an outlier, but as a basic core a for union membership I'm want people who understand who wanNA fight somebody trying to victimize. Obscene. And they make great. They make great union members a hundred percent. You couldn't have said it better. It's incredibly true and. I've had the pleasure of being able to play with a lot of those guys. They would just as soon lay down their life for you as they would for their brother sister whether it's incredible. So at the go shooting table you've been in front or on the opposite side of of a couple. A couple different commissioners. You talked about having some discussions with rob or being on a panel with rob. Recently, he also had a quite a long interaction with, but see like when he was a commissioner. Where do you see those two guys on on the spectrum of of Commissioners? How are they? Are they similar how they're different? What's what's the general vibe that you're getting from from rob these days? Really. Yet not not at all. What Bud light about raw as as he should have. HOW HARD ROB WORKS! Rob Is very smart. He works long hours. Clever incredibly You know he's. Tricky some people shifty to others I have great respect for him. Thinking he has I've said this before. And I will pretty decent French. Fe actually included me in his book as one of the ten guardians of the game. Wow must have been drinking at the time. He wasn't a big drink. But Faye Faye was the arbitrator. The ultimate ahve traded the Roger Clements on field discipline case in one thousand, nine hundred ninety Lcs Against Oakland when I'm Terry who booed him in the third inning and I hide liberals. And then tell me and put this diminutive little lip, read of Hunter College on the stand to go over the tape. What Roger was a 'cause I had a slow motion camera from CBS fixed on as to have cameras gold, Jewish Cabraha UOMO's Lomo it was along mound slow motion camera. And it was. It's fix permanently on the mound, so whatever the pitcher is doing on the mound. You see when he's. A. Move cameras so I had all of the mountain, so Roger Clemens and I didn't tell anybody I had hired Olympia. and. She said what Roger was saying. which was not what the Empire at Britain's poet. And Steph as credit that umpire network the game again while they fired but the included in the book that one of the finest pieces of loitering. I Had ever seen when I brought it. I didn't even tell Raj. I I only told my colleague at the Mike the Second Chair. I said to tell anybody about this I got this woman Deborah Copeland. From Hunter College a lip reader for the Justice Department. Put It on the stand he. G Great. It's a chance. We won't curse words that part Potter said Roy said so. She said No. That's not expletive deleted. That's not bad. No walney saying there is so. She's repeating words that I'm asking her. According to the UMPIRES report that you know, he said, but so Faye. Faye was very smart. Faye had a great classical education. He was no, he might have gotten a little bit out far ahead of the owners. Not Realizing that he wasn't till, you know, he was holding to the right, he didn't like that, but he was smart. But all of the commissioners that Glenn Beck bullied him Bob Foreign ways. The poses the biggest. Want a better term and I'm meeting in a negative way, but the biggest threat to the union because he's very very smart, very smart. He's doing this a long time. Yeah, yeah, but. I didn't get along very well. There's no secret get won't bring. At Buds Buds principal focus was on public relations, so he cared about. He was a good politician from what from what I understand. Within, the ownership ranks, but he he led them to ninety four strike it was. He was the driving force between the night four negotiations in the sense, they took any formulated that going back to nineteen, ninety, one, nineteen, ninety-two yesterday nineteen, ninety, the maintained ninety lockout really was negotiated by Faye. Steve Lieber Chuck O'Connor myself more. Of the that was when it was over, and the minute that was over, and they went into the meeting of the Executive Council at the Commission's old office at Traders Club I. You could hear them screaming. Literally screaming and they were screaming at. And If. you think this tough waiter. You see the next one. I know right I news early as March. Nineteen ninety. That come the next negotiation. They were GONNA. They were GONNA. Show fake. They're gonNA. They were GONNA show these outsiders had negotiate with union, so he can't escape the fact that he calls the nineteen ninety four strike, so rob is a very good law very very smart, very hardworking. And I have the greatest respect for him. I know that's not a Lotta. People on outside of the I'll maybe don't feel that where they feel a little too clever. Little tricky, but I think he's A. He's a quality guy. I think he's A. He's really smart and I think in the long run. Might be good for the game to to get a commissioner like vis at the owners out of that mold picking you know the commission as they've cooked a, he's he's. He's a cut above he's. He's smart. He's Aires very. You know. The job of commissioner is not one that I think I would ever want at any lifetime because it is difficult. Tightrope Act that you're. You're called upon to do because you are. You're hired by the owners. You are doing the odors bidding, but you are also tasked with. Protecting. Fording the game of baseball and it is. Only in the interests of the only the interest of the owners recommend you know it isn't what's good for the game of Baseball General. It's quite good for their baseball teams. that's that's the way to look at it. The commissioner is is a creature of the owns, but he has certain. He has certain suasion. Because of his title is position with them, and you can get them to do things they otherwise might not want to do. He can make life difficult the other thing about it. It relates back to what I always tell. People is my biggest regret in baseball. People on the sent how how vary in how many issues there are before? Security now gauge. Fundamental differences of merchandising information technology different platforms networks, etc. It's much much more complicated job in ever was before. I was CO chair with Paul Archie, you tell him he's now at university he works in Kentucky. Now, but he was the head of international baseball we. co-chaired world baseball classics. And in that capacity, it became necessary for me to put on baseball. Around the world and I always tell people. My biggest regret is that I didn't know how hard it is. To put out of baseball. Until I had to do it. You know I never gave club employees credit how important they are to the success of the game the stadium, the cleanliness of the stated the quality of the food. The cleanliness of the folds. The. Parking situation of VIP, all these things that hundreds and hundreds of issues associated with simply getting Mexico to played Dominican Republic where the United States Canada or whatever it might be putting on Baseball Games. I never really got. A hands dirty that area until the twenty first century when we had our first world baseball classic and I always say had I known at the beginning. What I knew that. Might treated the clubs with a little bit. Not Leniency, but I would have treated the clubs with a better respect for how hard it is what they do but but since then I have tried to. I'm not saying gene I wasn't 1887. Let's put it that way when I was A. You know ready to file rightful. It's hard because when you are it, you're in it every day from that perspective where your job was. It's hard not to feel that way because it does get so contentious so quickly, but you're right like I. especially in this moment in time I've been trying to. Trying to tell people and trying to make people understand that baseball games even baseball games without fans in the stands to put them on a really hard thing in the middle of a worldwide pandemic. With all the different concerns that need to be addressed, we have to have patience we have to as a country as baseball fans in his baseball players. We have to have patience and say. There is a way I think there is a way forward here, but. The respect for how difficult it is like you said to put on baseball. CanNot be understated. Also you literally a unique. Belt this hasn't happened in one hundred and two years, so no one has ans- out of intellectual Miltie that you approach these. It isn't like a regular typical negotiation across the table to replace. Net The nineteen ninety seven basic agreement something like that this is a this is a very complicated subject, but and may have strong you're you're entitled strong feelings about? But. You. Can't commit to the species discussions. You know the scene with the same kind of. View of the world. As you as you bring to. The the wreck typical negotiation. At, one of the things the question of How hard you work, behalf of used to laugh about this all the time, but whenever anybody beat me up in the press I'd get calls from place. A g. must be doing something. So I would sell these guys. You don't understand. I kept sent Colt bummer Iraq. Jail you understand this. I get up tomorrow morning. If you write that, I'm going to get a call from you know how whiter he's going to judge. One thing that they never understood the more they rip you. The more. They were angry at the job you do. and. Weren't stupid. Say Well. He must be doing something right. Look at the way that they after you know so. Choi. Let's really really good. A couple other things I. DON'T WANNA. Take up all your time tonight. except the whole evening site for this is great. This has been so fun for me. Somebody mentioned to me the other day. The idea of baseball being a better game without the union and I pushed back, obviously very hard said it would be very different. Than the game you get to watch these days if there was no union. Do, you feel that baseball is. The Union of Baseball Dow Makes Baseball A better game overall. We talked about it a little bit with free agency and stuff, but there there's more than that correct. Just nonce, the notion that the school would be better without a union. It's the Union that gave sport the competitive balance that it has. Understand, also even the question of revenue. The role union plays in that because the club Rod noses. Publicly, but the clubs need the players association. The closer are these two camps. I have my money and I. Don't want to give it to you. I don't have as much money as you give me some of you us. And they battling all the time and those of rivers are not going to cross I. Mean it's my money. I WANNA keep. I need more money because I can compete with you. So what happens is clubs go? She was the players Association Revenue Formula. That allows them to go to the big clubs instead. It's the best we can. Do you know, but you gotTA. You gotta come up with some cashier and they come to the small clubs. They say by the way you get hurt most strike. But you know we have negotiated with the unions way. You'RE GONNA. Get a lot of money. We aren't. We aren't sound strange. A with a piece mix when it comes to revenue sharing, because we are the honest broker of how much will take the rich to give to the poor, and that tells that tells the poor and the rich. Okay, you've gotten as much out of this as you can. Now you know it's a revenue sharing a would not they'll be constant. Battles and baseball were not for the union, but the most important is that the union gave export free agents. Free Agency allows teams would judicious use of create to get better and give the fans that are teammates. We don't have you know from nineteen or he? Nineteen sixty four, a team from New York was the world series every year, but I made the money that was in those franchises, and they ability to get players the other than once you ready, Hanser stunk defied sports, nineteen, eighty, four to two thousand will be section of the graves and. All kinds of different teams playing in the world series. Free Agency did that, so the guy who will the council told you that just. was just speaking out of that. It had really thought thought. This comes a history of the sport. The two biggest reasons for the Union are one free agency helps this prince, the calms, which is the players and to the honest brokering revenue shooting arrangements. COPS understand out professional revenue-sharing is. You Buy. A, Bass. You anticipate that you made a lot of money on a yearly basis. You saw franchise ten years now. It's going to have tripled in value best. That's batteries and admits bet lately. You know, but you do that on a date when you have certain revenue streets. All of a sudden midstream. A union clubs come all. This central bank will come up and change your revenues. And you don't have the right to say that. G having known this with the club. I thought I was making twenty million, only making seventeen or I didn't know that you're taking my you know. This goes into my repurchasing price. You Know A. Pretty profound attack on on a clubs business. Take money from club and give it to another. And, as a result, tempers flare when it comes to share on the other side yeah. Yeah and we all the honest brokers of that so that that person just doesn't know about. I will be sure to let them know I'll. Call My. Perfectly happy to try to enlighten them. I guess where we are right now. In baseball I tried to ask people this who've been around the game for awhile. And who are have? Different, expertise, in the game. I ask them. What do you feel like? The State of the game is right now. Do you feel like it's better or worse than it was a few years back? Do you feel like we're on a trajectory for good things? Are you worried about where we're going? What's your? What's your perspective on the State of Baseball? As as it stands today, pro as a bad day to ask because we're in the middle of this pandemic, no baseball now. Before before the pandemic, I would have said it's as healthy as. It's a there has been a slight shift in the archival capabilities management labor. When we negotiated we wall route twenty thirty years, and they were all rookies now. A lot of them are senior and been around a long time and the MLB PA. Steph rookies so that it has an impact and there is some disaffection. I know that in the core usually goal, but. Typically that his again going back. Something said that the Guinea this compensation. That's because they don't know as much as what's going on. The unit does so. It's easy to criticize the. But Barth net kind of even accepting that somewhat of a change Sports was extremely healthy again. who knows how this is gonNA shake out I mean. Let's take. One scenario that people are talking about. As reading a report from Dr Michael. Ostra just the other day. Prayer distinguished epidemiologist who say that a second wave is inevitable. A he says hold you. Have this one that by June of next year, eight hundred thousand Americans love that. Its worst Spanish float and he's one of the leading Padilla. This guy. And his credentials. You can look them up Michael. Really. If. He's right. There's a second wave coming. In a hundred thousand Americans, you know we maintain twenty five thirty percent unemployment over the course of year or two. Maybe who knows what any leisure activity? Is the same as once was so I I think. All bets are off right now. It's just a it's anybody's guess and the. One the one. Consoling thing for me is that. The leading mind under problem Tony Duck Ouchi with high school. really. REACHES MY I. So, get this I was I had John Boo Shabby on the on the show not long ago, the broadcaster on ESPN. Other Alumna alumnus that he was saying. The line of people who have graduated from the school is just he's like I. Am way down the list. On there, so. You come with a great degree there. He was saint classes, my brother. The guy graduated first in his class was morning Walgreen felt she graduated fifth. The my brother brother graduated third, and so it was Barina. Fancy they still call it the year of the Italians. Out of the Ballpark Cock that year I was late I i. actually we had a ball player who played for the Minnesota twins in the early ninety s who proposed banning from play all plays with HIV right away, my intent. was. Disabuse this guy as I called Ask the come speak to the planes that I could get. He was too busy. The top dealing with AIDS as opposed to baseball players. You know, but. That! That's the one thing that you know he. He's obviously quality dies so. His nickname was jaws because it lacked thou- cheese means Jones. He was known as Joel as he was in high school, but brilliant brilliant guy. Some small comfort knowing that he's he's on the case. Speak Right Right the allegations that we've had so far. have been centered around the idea that we're going to take as much information from smarter people than us as we can get. Get as many smart people around us as we can. Because, this is too big of a decision to make lightly into make without. Facts numbers. Trying to figure out what what is the. Safest scenario here. Two questions for you before we finish. What is more serious than what is very much less serious? The first is. What is the biggest mistake the players make? At the bargaining table. From negotiation negotiation. Interesting it'll make. They don't make many the biggest mistake they used to make hope they don't make. Get it made at once is not realizing. Notwithstanding the structure of the system with the architecture, how interconnected they all? So a the club's attack salary arbitration in Nineteen eighty-five. All reason say what do I give that salary arbitration past Salvia? So. We strike a deal said it is okay is known the two year eligibility. It's three zero disability. And that will be effective on the of attractions taking place in the in February maintaining. So start getting calls round March April. Of Nineteen, Eighty, seven from players, saying I haven't gotten any off. Gee, what what's going on? I had a pretty good year. And of course all these players free agents so slept. meet explain to them. that. You guys may creations made salary arbitration eligible players more valuable. Zero three players there was a twenty percent increase in the number of players with zero to three service wide. And more because they were cheap. When did those jobs come from an fixed? In in a fixed number of a jobs as twelve hundred players, you know as you know That's it. You'RE NOT GONNA. Get more than forty minutes or ASTA thirty clubs whatever the number might have been back in eighty five was twenty eight clubs then, but but that's the biggest mistake. The free agents didn't realize whether they like it or not. If aid is linked to salary arbitration players. While the sound betrays in place to understand. Iron by strikes I had to go through minor leagues and thank God Blah Blah Blah Blah. Do cannot rookie. Guess what? More than if you make cheaper. And you're going to have fewer guys. Eligible and you didn't have. She would reach know. There is an interconnectedness of place whether they like it or not. It's hard to get across to them, so that's the stake with a analyze proposals. Based on how it affects them in their particular class. As Os to as part of body as a whole. has where the players? Need Need Some coaching. I used to have A. We had annual meetings or bargaining sessions BJ Surhoff. He's like. Sit next to me because he could elbow. Given the speech about the salary arbitration. Give, the speech about. It always tell me that you're. But that I think if I had to pick one thing that. In a way. It's unfair to the place. 'cause they've been so good. For so long in the face of enormous pressure. Fantasy Games play. They don't care about the players. Unless you know he guy now he's your son. That's the key think of him as your son. The which what I thought this guys, my son, the AH. a mistake. Essentially it's. The. Failure to realize the interconnected discipline play, yeah! That's important. Breeds better solidarity. It is hard because there are there are guys from. A. Very diverse backgrounds be very diverse classes of where you're at in your baseball. Lifer Baseball tends to be very hierarchical within the player community veteran players have a certain level of respect they. Assume at rookies have a certain level of dues that they feel like. The veterans feel like they need to pay and at the end of the day we are all major league baseball players. There's only been one thousand nine thousand of us. So how connected are we really at Nancy vary? Used to tell seeing as you know. You should care about these rookies because if you don't. May hurt warn. Racer tell the rookies. Care about a senior players. Because you wouldn't have let you had wasn't for them. They been down this road before you know what when they were doing it. And doing it for you. So, be grateful. Don't be wise guy. Come onto the scene and change the way things. Respect the veterans because the veterans got you way. You warm right now what you know what or not, but I would tell the same time to veterans you know. These kids that are coming up I know you think that they're out to get your job. Something like that, but. The, you're all connect. The same boat together, if and if you don't believe that. You see what happens to you when you make those guys more attractive to the clubs that get more. Yeah I mean we're seeing at the game was getting younger and younger younger because. We've placed value proposal the highest level on younger players. That's probably would we move towards this next negotiation I would assume that's one of the things that will need to be addressed. All right so last question. We asked to every guest on the podcast. The last time you listened to music on purpose, what were you listening to? Thank listen to music every day. I think the last thing. This is gonNA sound ridiculous, but the last thing I listened to was the score from the musical city of angels. I cycled. A couple of songs and musical that I'm a big news fan I. Love What? One of the reasons this New York's Alexis. My wife and I go to all time, and I like classical music, too, but the. I think the last piece of music. I played today, was I think it was on youtube and it was It was from that it was the actual scene from a a great musical city of angels. And listened to the score that. Is. What's your favorite musical all time? or I should say model. Broadway show well famous musical. To these, but my favorite muse. Oh. In terms of pure us. Is never been musical is beautiful as west side, story. When it burns dangerous, he's just he's handsome above the rest. I think Gypsies probably. Very few US have great, first and second. Very hard to do illustration that is superb. I Act Sunday the Paul. George and decent but. Not nearly as good. Second Act. That's true so many musicals Gypsy has to. Create Acts First Second I. Think probably should see when I fail eighty some. Beautiful Beautiful I can ask us all the time to fight that list. Changes Alex. Suarez US three plays a lot depends on who's going. Pretty Shakespeare to the side because Shakespeare, so good people don't believe he existed some people That I think that the. Vanessa redgrave. Coke, Seymour, than one days jury tonight. A Eugene O'Neill was. Doesn't get better than that while not bad. Not Bad. Well, I wish I wish you the best of luck and I. Hope I hope with all my heart that you get to go back to New York soon. The things are safe and somewhat back to normal. Maybe Broadway opens up. Sometime in the next year, so I don't know but thank you for being on. This has been an absolute pleasure. I hope we do it again. We can all right. Thank as Say. Bye.

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03/26/2021 - Hour 3 - MLB Players Association Wants to Move the All-Star Game

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03/26/2021 - Hour 3 - MLB Players Association Wants to Move the All-Star Game

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We and i might be totally wrong. I've never been to a. We'd nation national convention. Yeah but i'm picturing like rob you remember on like the king of queens yeah i can't remember the guy's name but he one of one of the friends. He would go to the little gatherings with the superheroes like batman and superman. Everybody would dress up like their superhero casa. Remember that that's really goes onto that. That is that well we've nation is like. Oh yeah there's a bunch of people 'cause playing as their favorite anime characters so they'll dress up the anime basically same like superhero. Same kind of thing. Wow who's your favorite anime character. Ooh that's tough off the gecko. I'd say she's like a low key one or names holo she's like Kind of like a deity. Half like god half mortal so. She's pretty good people holo holo about her personal life. It's my you wanted to know about a fossil fuel joke. i'll send That note is the. I not bad bad bad i. I'm always willing to work hard for your entertainment dollar. Yes yes indeed all right. Let's go back to this big news of the day. Rob the forty niners and we talked about look. They moved up to number three in the draft. The dolphins moved back from three two to six because they traded with the niners trade with the eagles who were willing to go from six to twelve. What that tells me. Rob is number. Three things three quarterbacks to san francisco moved up to get a quarterback because they don't believe in jimmy g. for one reason or another one reason because they don't think he's at good and the second or it could be healthy and yeah he's good we win but he's he's heard half the time so whatever the reason they don't fully believe in him for the long haul but on the other hand rob a guy that people had questions about two guys actually in miami. I think this is a signal that they do. Believe in two. And they're they're willing to go with him this year coming up and believed they. He'll progress and become their franchise quarterback and then in philadelphia where it was speculated that they might actually take quarterback at six is seems to me like they believe at least for this year in jalen hurts whether it's belief or we just don't want to have another situation where our starters looking over his shoulder whatever the case or we don't hurts or chris. We don't. We don't like the quarterback who there do you know what i mean like that. That could be a real another reason. Why you get out of that you look at them and say yeah other than lawrence after that. I'm not sure so. I don't want to lock into a contract with a you know what i mean like that right. We're i don't believe in them. I mean that's why you move out of that usually. That's why you move out of those slots. Could you not interested in any of those quarterbacks who will coming out. I'm just saying no you could be could be. I mean the the history of quarterback hit and misses is just such mrs. yes. I mean tool you know. We don't know everybody loved him in college and coming out right and now it's like okay. We'll see the verdicts out. I mentioned sam darnold earlier. He was the third pick in the draft. Anything somewhere by him. Chris and he might he wear the bus. But at this point saying like there's a big question is whether or not the jet should stick with him because he hasn't done it yet. So you just quarterbacks man it looks some of the best. Tom brady number six rounder. Joe montana a third rounder route. Dak prescott four dry dropped all the way in the first one now. Yup in the twenties. I mean so it is it is. It's a tough thing to do. Is to nail these quarterbacks and so yeah you you could be right. But i like their miami's going with to Look he wasn't overly impressive last year. But i didn't see anything to make me think this like i. I think he deserves a season. At least you know. Like i see nothing to make me think. Oh he's not our guy. Give him a shades was they sent a mixed signals. You gotta admit that. During his patrick pulo they were dealing with them and pull them out of moments chris wait could grow and learn and being a big spy and they wound up doing all. That didn't make the playoffs anyway. I mean some off the hands for him. Yeah he seems. I agree with you but he seems to have that attitude the coach that you know whatever it takes to win this game if you're not having a good game that's kind of like a high school mentality. Are you know what i mean like. If you're not you don't have tonight. I'm pulling you and putting somebody else in but it's odd to see but know we'll see what happens this year with him and jalen hurts You know statistically wasn't very good had the one big win over new orleans but certainly The verdict the jury's out. We got to see so They're rebuilding obviously and we'll see what hurts can do this year all right baseball. Rob the all star game this year next year is in atlanta. There's talk about. Should they boycott. Go ahead and explain what's going on there so so basically you know they they just. The governor signed new restrictive voting rules for the state of georgia. Chris which basically you know we saw two two they lost both senate's both senators is right and you had a a black man become senator from georgia and a jewish man. Come become a senator from georgia and changed of course the balance of power in washington. So what they did is. They decided that they're going to change and make it harder. Restrictive rules harder to vote by trying to maybe a push people away from wanting to vote and taking part of the process in a lot of people are up in arms over this and so is the union the baseball union. And they're going to take a look at maybe not come into atlanta chris to participate in the all star game. And it's very admirable. Because i get this. We've seen this before. But i really think that this is where major league baseball. Chris should step in even before the players. And we've seen this before two of the best cases of where leagues have stepped in to say. We're not going to take part in the stuff that you're doing and your state and we'll punish you as a state until you get right you know until you do the right thing and the most famous one was in nineteen ninety-one. This is pre all this. Chris political correctness nine hundred ninety one okay and the. Nfl owners voted to take the super bowl away from the state of arizona because they voted not to have more luther king as a paid holiday despite it being a national holiday for everybody else and the nfl said to arizona. You won't be taken away to nine hundred ninety three super bowl and you'll never get another super bowl as long as martin. Luther king is not a national holiday in the state. A paid holiday right. What do you happen when they put put it up on the holiday. They made it a holiday. Chris two seconds later you know what i mean. The next vote so also the nba did the same exact thing and so did the ncaa. You remember the big brouhaha over the bathroom. Bill in north carolina airline and of nba said. No no all star game in charlotte. The ncaa pulled out all their championships. That was scheduled. Chris longtime events in the state of north carolina. What happened there are they. They changed it. They changed it. I'm saying baseball should be the leader and not the union that major league baseball which is born from jackie robinson. And all the other stuff. That's that's come in to play. And they like to stick their chest out about you know early on being a leader and race relations and changing the american culture. And i think baseball as a whole in the commissioner should look at it and they should be the ones to decide until the players that yes. We're not going to do anything in atlanta. I'm talking about special. Not tell if the braves can't play their chris. But i'm special event that brings in a lot of money to the state. Yeah i'm certainly against voter suppression. And i know raphael worn who was elected as senator. I spoke at this church and friends with him. Yeah but that was a huge huge of ripe for him. And i forgot the senator's night. I'm certainly against voter suppression But i think you gotta be careful too. Because i didn't like what the nba did in north carolina. Because i that was the bathroom bill and it was over. You know they have voted that you go to the bathroom of your biological sex as a father of two daughters. They're adults now i. I wouldn't want my young daughters in bathrooms with biological males. So i didn't like that and and if the nba there's no difference between male and female why you got the wnba. So i you know. I think you gotta be careful some of this stuff you know you got you got people. I don't want my daughter's. I don't think it's fair to have girls competing against biological boys in high school sports. They're states where these boys biological boys are destroying girls in sports breaking site rise. After i just i'm just i wanted to get. I want you to get on the voter snow. I'm i'm told with voter suppression but if lee start who determines what is right and wrong now. I'm against racism. So i'm doing that but now i mean there's articles written about kicking oral roberts out of the ncaa tournament. 'cause they follow christian values in regards to sex and things and other things. So i mean it's like this is. I'm just saying that it's a slippery slope when you don't have to agree with everything chris. If you don't lifestyle. I get that but it's not one hundred percent. It's a lot of things are out there. That people don't like that doesn't mean that they still can't that might affect other people. Maybe maybe other people maybe you disagree with it but other people agree with it and more than i can should re within should a sports league emphasis on that. If a sports league believes that they won no discrimination against people who are different no matter what their race religion sexual orientation chris. You can't pick and choose either. You're either you going to stand up for everybody who's who's different. I'm just saying. I hear what i'm saying doubted a tournament. I didn't i didn't read that story and he said usa today. Yeah i'd have to read that story. 'cause i've never heard that. I think that it's easy to find usa today and see that. But i'm just saying you don't everything you're not going to agree with everything. There's no such thing listrik society and your and nobody's saying i'm talk. Okay and do one thing. They wanna do. So did you put the. Nfl was wrong. Did you think wait a minute. I'm wrong for what for for for taking the super bowl from arizona. why did is the iphone. I agree with that. But the people they wanted in the state of arizona rob. I've said time and time again. I i love athletes and league speaking out. When it's something i agree with and i think i'm being honest like most people but when it's something you don't agree with people don't want this to get involved and martin luther king was also a already a national holiday right but but the voters. It was a precedent. Now they come out with this georgia. Like i said i don't like the bill but i'm just saying there's the slippery slope right because radio romer stamps roads because we're such a crossroads now with various policies various belief systems. And so this is it's a. It's a different time. So i'm just saying that's all i'm saying it's a slippery slope right. I'm just saying the league's once that once. They've made that commitment to standing up for discrimination against people who are different in different things man. You can't just pick and choose so that's why this thing comes into play. I don't i don't know how in the world and in this case voter suppression is is something that people should be alarmed about. And aiding no. I know that. I'm no. I'm just saying like like that's why i think baseball should get involved and more so than the players if the players wanted to find chris. But i'm saying the nfl's done at the nba's done the ncaa did it as well. They took away all the championship. Events state stop flying north carolina. Remember big but that doesn't mean but you also discriminate in not discriminate against one group of people. You discriminated against another group of people you discriminate against people. They don't want their daughters in bathrooms with biological males. So that's what i mean. This is not a black and white thing. This is a very complex issue and it's the same thing sports and it's going to become huge because certain states are battling that should biological boys be compete. They think they're girls be competing against biological girls in wrestling and track and basketball other sports. So i'm getting. I agree with you on the voter suppression. I'm just saying you know sports. These got to be careful about give because there's articles robbie a written now saying that the black nba players should be coming out and because they've already spoken out for like black lives matter and stuff like that nowadays. They got to come out as say you should go get vaccinated or you know because a lot of black people aren't getting vaccinated or tell you can't make people do know but that's because you've spoken out now you need to speak out on this to. Yeah i mean that. But that's somebody's i every time but in this case we're talking about things that were done through the legislature or the government that the league's don't agree with not just people's public opinions on stuff. These were these are laws that were changed and altered. That i think is a little bit different. I hear what you're saying because no one's gonna agree with everything that's and everything that's done by states. I just think it's an important issue. And i think baseball should jump in. That's that's all a seventy seven nine or fox. You'll turned away. And what do you think of. This is so many layers this conversation plus you can weigh in how you want to keep it on baseball on this topic. I feel like say whatever they want. Okay baseball sized whatever. Now i'm gonna open it up. Eight seven seven ninety nine on. Fox's the october fox. Sports radio be short. Catch live editions of the odd couple with chris. Bruce art then. Rob parker weekdays at seven pm eastern four. 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Chris so to say that and understand that you have daughters and stuff like that but you know what just think about it. There was a time that there was black. People couldn't use the restroom and they made them go to their already and people filed for black people whose wrestlers to say restaurants other people and people who are feel different than your beliefs want us to say restaurants to just because as much as race sexuality the same thing what racing ginger all of the same because they all minorities person decide. They want to change their race. What could you joe skin. You guys saying. I'm asian is all right. Everybody got accepted. I'm asian it. Dan by believe it. So does agent was not black i. I will say this. Chris chris say this. That's what people here. And i'm gonna tell got short time. Okay take this quiz. Listen to this do. Do you believe in elliot's is there today. The the reason why some people bigfoot do you believe in bigfoot. now there's notable is no to both. I understand that but if you believe in one and other cat because then let's get a couple more people we appreciate you for real from st louis. Thank you for. Your opinion will michigan. You're on the fox. Sports radio home. My dude my then with you from day one. How will we appreciate. You still want to cross you. Guys didn't even know existed and it was day one was awesome anyway. Chris i got two daughters. And i gotta tell you my man like they're just going to the bathroom. I live there. I live to will. I actually do feel that. I do for you on a sports aspect of showers but they you know i still say like most people are going to the bathroom like it's not a sexual thing and like these people are. A minority are disenfranchised by the people of the public. Even though depending on how you feel you can't just pick and choose who you want to be a champion for if you're going to be a champion. For all these franchise people right. You got all you gotta look after. I don't think that's leagues. I think that's what the leagues are. You know it's hard to just pick and choose and tell one group of people. Yeah we got you and the other group. We don't care about you. i. I think that's where they're well. I'm not saying you do all that i just. I just think it's i agree. It's not black and white. Is the time issue. But all i miss read or don't care. I didn't say that you didn't say all right. Let's squeeze in one more andrew in maryland you on the fox. Sports radio quickly andrew. How're you doing doing all right. Thank you. I came in at the end of the conversation but i wanted to talk real quick about you said that the black lives matter movement had a lot of nba players in the forefront of fighting things and now they need to be be the people on the vaccine. That was so we did say that. That was something that somebody wrote or said. We don't agree with that. Everybody has their own. I don't agree with i agree. I agree but i think a lot of people want them to be now the forefront of the vaccine movement getting black people. That's the problem now. Spoke about that back in the day. He said that. Like for the black people in america it seems like the only people that are accepted in terms of leader by other groups for black people on sports stars athletes. And all that that's probably entertainers we get him. Yes yup we totally get. Chris and i talk about it all the time in a right but is shown to. The right. shouldn't be that we should. We have black leaders mayors and governors. Chris and all kinds of people who are smart and leaders and they don't get the respect that they don't get the respect that the guy who scored a touchdown score forty points and it's sad but true fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. arte. 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Alright is the couple of rob coming. You live from the farmers insurance fox. Sports radio studio call one eight eight eight farmers to switch and you could save a bundle on your car insurance. It's time for shirts. Tower of trivia ladies and gentlemen begins and mediators kale lovers rubble chip lovers. It's time this game is so tight. Shirts towel of trivial. All right you guys the game. That proves that you don't need to know a thing about sports to work in sports media. It's t shirts tower of trivia. Hey chris hey rob. This is how the game works. We're going to be asking. Alex t shirt here. A couple of generic trivia questions sports related. And you guys get a chance to help him with these trivia questions with one word clues i if you get it on the first try. That's ten points right there and then we subsequently go down in points therefore after we tossed a coin to see who i. It's going to be chris today and we're gonna knock this off. Rob chris. i know. Rob not here. But i remember has to be an english. Okay in glass glaze. Lease four okay. Bilingual did after dr. All right you guys. First question here for alex in the upcoming. Hbo series about the showtime lakers. John c reilly famous actor will be playing the late. Great lakers owner. Dr jerry blink. Chris first clue goes. Oh i thought they were. I was looking at other question. Okay in the upcoming. Hbo's oh dude. Come on c. b. works. He's not. Give me some good jeannie jeannie jeannie jeannie jeannie jeannie. I dream of jeannie jeannie. Hold on genius you need you need you need genius genius genius talk. Show how you know her name. That's terrible and we talked about our lots of dreaming. However i was gonna say breath get bust. What okay all right. All right you guys rob. You have a chance to tie it up on this one next question for alex here during march madness you'll often hear around the water cooler that people have a busted blink when talking about the nc double a. Tournament rob first clue goes to you. Busted what rob what do we. Sc mad g. Raum tried to try to alex. Listen fossil say bad joke. A busted got a hinge kenge busted hinge busted hinge busted him bracket bracket right. He knew you had to know. That's pretty good. The good food. That was good best bracket i like it exact job rob alright keeping it here with the with the march madness. The final four. This year's going to be played in the same city as the world's most famous formula one race. What city is that in. Chris first clue no idea. You know. I minored in geography Indiana indiana uh oh cd. Oh my gosh not. Indianapolis is no. You're really kids got away without. How do you get away. You hit the word that's involved in in indianapolis his for word. No indiana's in indianapolis lee. Oh you mean in the work but it's a whole different word. No that was before. I can't remember what it worth greed just in mind. What indiana eighty and. I didn't think it'd be indianap- was going to go with the easy indiana. Thought he would her my job colts. Alex might have gotten maybe indianapolis. Probably because i'm trying to play up to one. Oh go ahead. Here's an here's an easy one for you rob and it's going to be a test to see how much alex have been paying attention today. The forty niners traded up to the number three pick in the draft leading mini to think that their current quarterback jimmy garoppolo might wind up with his former. Nfl team. the blink rob. I was paying. Its that's the only say. One word correct correct england patriots right. Oh come on thinking about you said england. I'm thinking of old england. Here just new england so i might not know sports. Cb dumb. i guarantees not going to get this one on the. I always on vote account. Well it might take three. Be here all right. Currently the number one seed gonzaga bulldogs are favorites to win the ncaa tournament. At plus one fifty. In what state do the gonzaga bulldogs play. Chris seattle. Oh i think i know this one. Hold on if i get this right. Cb do we get wings from lee. Because i think i know this yes that's around and hold on. I'm oh i think i'm gonna guess is because it is it. Spokane is that a state is out of state. That's he misunderstood the question though. No he got him on. What are we. What did you just say you actually was student here. The state though. okay. I think i know the answer. Mariners oswego seattle. It's not you can't say set bringing i gotta. I gotta tiebreaker here. What sport did the great one wayne. Gretzky play what can you the question. Sorry what sport did the great one wayne. Gretzky play all right allie. Yeah ice hockey right. All right last one here rob speaking baseball here. What does mlb stand for all right. Know yeah major. Okay wait wait wait wait. You can't say that watching all right. Major makes actual word port of seattle quarterback and you would add to say i m alex. I'd like to solve the puzzle is league baseball. Oh kobo give you. Moore's that's That alex i think. I had a feeling but mel have said. Mlb you know. Maybe you could like professional. But i mean. I don't know it's mlb s thought because it was three words. You know what. I mean like three words. Hard chris right. You gotta get three hours right. If you'd indiana indiana Thank you alex good job. We kissed ourselves thanks. I stay tuned. More coming your way fox. Sports radio washington. Be sure to catch. Live editions of the odd couple with chris broussard. Then rob parker weekdays at seven pm eastern four. Pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app was twenty twenty full of dings dents and scratches your tax refund and make oh can help refresh your ride with your refund it mako to undo a little bit of last year head to make dot com to get a free online estimate today. Oh better get mako. Boogie nights by who boogie nights are. Who monty g cute. You remember song. Rob he wave. He was a heatwave. let's go. He wave right yeah. Dj alex tyson is the crates wrapping up a funky flash back friday coming to you live from the farmers insurance fox sports radio studios call one triple eight farmers and you can save a whole lot of money on your car insurance. I rob less. Wrap it up and send you off to detroit On this note. Ucla got to the sweet sixteen and still alive and their coach. Mick cronin they play their the eleven see they play alabama to seed sunday night but mick cronin their head coach was on. Espn radio today. and he. He took a shot. He said the g. league win after one of his potentially one of his former players or one of his players a dacian. What's his last name. Dacian knicks all right so he was a recruit for ucla last year. Signed committed the whole nine yards and then decided to instead go play in the g. league which he did play in the season or it has has played it and he said he he he went off when the nba and the g. league for site basically saying that they recruited this player after he had already signed and committed to ucla and he said they said things he didn't go into what they said but he implied it was stuff like you know they might even play college ball next year. And you know. I i don't know what else. But you leave recruiting. Do base coaches due to chris. Exactly that's awful. I mean as long as until the kid is there even if the size he's fair game pat law people change their minds all the time. I mean eighteen year olds. You're not locked into anything. You can make a commitment and decide after thinking about it a little bit more. You've changed your mind and you want money or your family needs money right chris. I mean. I just can't i can't fault. Those are my two choices. Compla- college and eat at the cafeteria or get my family. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars absolutely. I totally agree with you. Because this is hard i look. He signed. he changed his mind. It's totally fair game. And i got no problem with it. I don't really want to hear the complaint in the g. g. league is a great option for these kids now out and their families. If you're only gonna be in school for a year you going to be in classes for a semester maybe right and after the season's over christie drop classes. You're not going there. It's fraudulent to mesa the school if they don't want to go to school. I'm serious. I don't i don't even if you wanna go to school but you know you only going to be there a year out of the four right. But i'm saying go when it's when they go only because they have to in order to get to where they want. It doesn't mean that maybe later on him. I wanna go to college or whatever. But i'm just saying i don't think it's most of the kids are going because this is the only way i can get in unless i wanna go failure europe or some and to your point a lot go for the first semester and then stopped going after that. 'cause by the time the grades were out the season's over exact and you're going to be declared for the draft you know so it's just is more honest you know to me is really more honest than i got. No issues like you said these coaches do it all the time when they recruit all the time so armee couple chris and rob a great weekend. Rob safe travels. Yes and come back. And i'll see you on monday. Yes indeed yes indeed It'll be a good week with the tournament. Nba action all of that. All right go to. I tunes apple podcast. Soundcloud and download subscribe. Leave a comment and five stars states tuned for jason smith and mike harmon. 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Tim Tebow vs. Mets Prospects, NBA vs. LeBron and Floppers, and Chad Wheeler

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Tim Tebow vs. Mets Prospects, NBA vs. LeBron and Floppers, and Chad Wheeler

"Those two bed 's our wall coda our a all right and welcome to the sports court of public opinion. We call foul play by play. Providing play by play and color commentary on the weeks cheats cheap shots and alleged criminals and sports. I'm your host anthony. Mariano and i'm joined as usual by michael hawes our attorney on retainer and his brother bradley sports betting and gambling expert as always. We opened the show by training. These two brothers against each other with a little segment. We call opening arguments. If you've been in the courtroom likely three. You know how this works. The prosecuting attorney explains the jury why the defendant is guilty. in the prosecution will prove it than the defendant's attorney explains to the jury while his client is innocent and how defense will prove it. We just do it with sports arguments. Since our attorney has a considerable advantage in this game bradley brother gets homecourt advantage meaning. He gets to pick the side. He wants to argue once more than his brother gets to pick. Kiss your objective. Generous judge will deliver my verdict after each opening art. Here's the first case on the docket. Okay you guys ready. That was sick. That was a good intro. Tony done better. Yeah while we're on a forty minute time limit here okay. We're going to start with my favorite and that is new york. Mets prospects versus abo- so apparently a bunch of prospects are suing Tim tibo for a spot on the spring training roster which there are seventy five so bradley. Which side would you like to argue. Four tim tebow or for the new york. Mets prospects for the new york mets prospects. Okay and that would make you. The prosecution attorney. Remind me who goes i in this. The state always goes i with the prosecutor. Goes i okay bradley wells. If if that's the case then i gotta go. I gotta go second. I gotta get a fine. Whatever we're going to do it by the book. Okay so bradley. You argue on the behalf of new york. Mets prospects change. They're going to be tim. Tibo than first episode. Okay so michael. Please ford mckay's for the new york. Mets prospects already knocked on the old internet's earlier. I did not know any of the mets prospects other than tibo well because they traded so many of them away but that being said the only reason tim t ball is there was to bring dollars in san into the stadium into new. York's what used to be. New york's pitiful baseball team But now this year they actually have a team to compete. I would argue to compete with the yankees For media With the bringing in door. And i mean if you look at their roster they are stamped so i would say you know what actually since you can put the fans in the stands now is not cheap gimmicks trying to put the best baseball team on the field in tim. Tebow is not going to make that happen. Okay can take his. Just go back to church. Steve bradley you're opening argument on behalf of ten team. Oh well just just like mike said he brings in money and in this capitalistic system. That we live in. We need to make money especially going through this pandemic that we just went through the mets have to try to do whatever they can to bring money into their organization. And frankly tim tebas going to sell tickets over their prospects in my belief It's no different than like the national hockey league selling their divisions and stuff like that. It's all based on money number one money money money as far as aa in triple eight race lamb finished. He will make those organizations more money if you bring up to the bieb leagues at that doesn't matter he's not gonna make the new york mets major league baseball club. Anyone anymore money. it's all at a lower level. It's all his name he's got a he's got to be there. Okay now. should we do follow ups or should we. Just let me decide a winner. It's your show. Tony it's up to you while in that case i'm gonna go with brad and defending jim tibo Because it during a pandemic n. during minor league contraction We realize how important it is for those smaller organizations to make whatever they can't sell the guy is at one fifty one three or four spring training games and takes winds out of seventy five. I don't think it's really big of a problem for anybody. Anybody who's got a problem with. It is probably got a chance next year whereas jim tvos aging body probably already made its money though god give somebody else. A chance has even still working as an analyst. So i mean he's do doesn't make any money though playing baseball. I mean yeah. It makes a minor league contracts rix. I'm sure he's a humaid he already made money to the nfl. These other people trying to get into the majors are making more money. I'm sure his signing with gigan- racist rich love bootleggers All right let's go on to the next case on the docket here The nba versus lebron james and flopping Apparently lebron and who's mma yesterday became like sixth and seventh players in nba history to be warned about flopping since the rule has happened place And was ago so apparently they're sick of flopping in the nba This game two of this series so bradley as you get to pick again the side you'd like to argue. I'll i'll go with lebron james and the entire nba flopper. Okay you'll be the defendant and michael you will be prosecution and that is On behalf of the nba. I'm in support of the rule. Urine before the nba's actions against lebron james on flopping it. Yeah if anybody watched. I don't usually follow the nba that close But with these little headlines you gave you watched that flop against the grizzlies. yes break. i understand that Across the aisle the defendants could argue that. Lebron james is bigger than nba have to quote a good product on the floor. And this is a joke. You wanna act. Go hang out the ice cube in some of these family busts movies or whatever this is the nba used to mean something. I of crap without a fly in the eighties and early nineties is ruining the game on the courts or care how great he is discussing to watch your rebuttal. Everybody just stands from what. I would say that less than a third of the time when somebody flops. They actually get the offensive foul called on the opposing team. So that you've got seventy percent of the time if not more where a offensive player with the bowl doesn't have anybody in front of them to guard them and with as well as they shoot getting a free shot. So flop wait. Why the hell wouldn't you want them to flop it unless it's for an injury reason. I don't know what else the nba would care about that on. You're not cheating. You're not getting away with a penalty if you will so. Why not let them do it in the nfl. Let's let's take away play action because you're tricking somebody or you're making it look like you did something so yeah this guy made. It looked like it was a foul as you could call it all the time no second level. How can you fat or find somebody through flopping. Are you kidding me. Seriously i fall down. I'm going to get penalized for it now. I can see if i do a flagrant foul. I do something like that. I fight yes. Some things are warranted. I flip people off. Some things are warranted a fines but during the game if i act like i dot fouled why it makes no sense. It's a tough one. spirited arguments by both attorneys here. shoot i gotta have to go with the nba on this one. I think analysis no finds their ten thousand dollar dollars a less than one percent of their. I could care less nope. It's lebron blaine time right there. But the nba's right we have to get flopping out of the game it's ridiculous Jimmy butler sat on the ground for like forty seconds for one night faking an injury while they checked the review camera. And that's something. I don't need the love. I'm sorry okay. Next case on the docket still disagree with that split wondering why and my eight you live. Why other court. Above this michael is home. Okay next up on the docket. We've got a the people vs chris. Doyle next case on the docket the people vs kristopher oil. Let's say these people are people who believe that crystal should have the right to work. He is the director of strength. Performance at the jags hired by urban meyer and resigned almost immediately upon backlash. Because he was the iowa coach responsible for sending thirteen players at hospital with a workout and Apparently he was allegedly racist and bully black players. So michael woodside. Would you like to take the sign of chris. Doyle the people the people so that means you get to go first again. I'm a little turn and even argue here. Defending people like doyle so you should. You should know that. That's this is part of my argument. I mean i lost his job. Why should the people care if a guy can't do his job right let alone the fact that. He's racist scumbag. I mean once again dollars and sense if you want somebody like that and the pictures this idiot with his bald head in these stupid american flags on his you go back to nineteen ninety five. We don't need that crap anymore okay. Nfl can hire and fire wherever they want nfl over the last year. Is that a lot of issues with pr. This is a good step in the right direction. My point of view guar jaguars trying to build a new franchise down there racists. Old start something fresh. okay bradley. Your argument on behalf of crystal his right to work. Second chances. i believe everybody in america deserves a second chance. Some of us weren't born with every capability on every dollar parents around. You know this guy probably grew up in a rough environment and he fired speculation. You probably finally made it to a place where he felt like he was good enough in you know all that bent up crap that he had inside of them with these poor little young african american kids coming into play football. She took it out on him. He was wrong out of the thirteen or eighteen people that he did that too. Yeah lead. It is wrong to do that on the questions we have to ask. Has he went to. Counseling has he. Has he went through this as he got. Maybe on brain analyzed to figure out why he's doing these certain things we tell you like. That's the thing coming into this denied you are psychiatric review. Mental mental awareness should be big thing as you seen you know athletes coming out saying about all their mental health issues and stuff like this. So let's just say. This guy has some of these mental health racism mental health out. This album game works mortaring courtroom. So that's all i'm saying is we need to analyze these people more on we can even take this into the prison system why we have so many people locked up in right now which as across the aisle. He'll say racism on. I can somewhat agree with that. Yes but mental has to do with a lot of it and i think locking these people up for life or for a long extended period time just hurts him so give this guy a second chance. We're not talking about locking anybody up talking about a guy who might or might not deserve job in avenue all together. This would at chris. Doyle does not have a buyers. I rule in favor of the people. So your honor. The court sanction opposing also to line when he referred to human beings as those four little. He had a really hard job pretty. Well okay go onto the next case Let's do case number four. This is four michael's up to two one. Let's go to shawn watson versus the texans and One side would you like to take michael. We'll i guess. I will give buzzing council argument. I'll take the houston texans. Yes perfect While that would make you the prosecution brab. Please make your case on behalf of to book on watson's actions regarding is requests for trade and the texans handling of arabization and him. I would say that Starting out football's one of the few sports and as we've seen it's starting to change a little bit where players do want to control a little bit more of their Destinations in what they do is ours who they play with Fine what the houston. Texans have done over. His career is just ridiculous. They built a team. They drafted him as the quarterback. They are a few pieces away. They were a few pieces of way. I wouldn't say last year but the year before on a great football team as an organization. You handcuff and you keep one person hostage. Which is your franchise quarterback. Which is that in gonna give them leverage because they're not winning football games for contract negotiations or whatnot on the road which ultimately he would definitely just run out and be a free agent but to do that to somebody and not give him everything he's done for houston. Why not trade him. You're going to get a butt load for him if you rebuilding in selling off all your assets for nothing. I mean you give you give away the number one wide receiver arguably influential you. Just give him away. Come on man. Like i wanna play there. You show that you have no interest in winning which will contradict my argument about team t boat. They're just about money. They want the shawn watson there so people come to the stadium. It's not right. Though for that type of player. he should be gone. let him let him go. let him fly. You reap the rewards of shit. I'll tell you what matthew stafford may to sean can get. Four first round draft picks. Tell me as a fan it citizens of the jury tell me as a fan you would not give up. Four first round draft picks for shawn watson. I would as a vikings fan hill. Yes i'll give you ten of them just to have a quarterback like that. I say that you are bound by contract. You do sign that contract with a team but if your team is not going to do anything to win in this guy wants to win and you reap some benefits back from. It should be no argument. Michael your vote Behalf the texans and he made part of that argument which i have the law on my side. This time he signed a contract that made him a very very very very very very wealthy at four years. One hundred and fifty six million dollars in. I'm supposed to feel sorry for him because he's getting paid a lot of money to play a game. Emil rate mac. Nfl any sympathy for shawn watson. When you're making that kind of money that being said okay so me as the houston. Texans made a somewhat trade last year depending how you look at it. I'll be damned shawn watson. Didn't go out there and still perform you. Does it need the best receiver in the world. I've always save some money so we can put some cheaper tools around him since he's getting so much money. And maybe rebuild that defense that used to be best in the leg. So the sean yes. You might not get that super bowl title next year or the year after year. Three of that contract he just signed. We might get there. We might get there. We might get there. What makes you think that the texans might get there in in the third year of that contract just address looking. No i'm non. Joking are all joking aside. You gotta give watson credit. I mean you you lose the best receiver in the league arguably the best receiver in the layout capacity yards. He's still goes out there and perform. I mean he can do with whoever's around so to my argument. That's what i'm saying like if you're not gonna win as an organization. I can't that money can your books. But they just did that with. Jj watt correct. So why not do this. You've got one of the highest paid players in the league. You rid of him. As argument is the best quarterbacks in the league yes. I guess i guess if your goal is to prevent other teams from winning while you still don't win i mean i guess the bottom line year boils down to the houston. Texans don't have an obligation to do right by shawn watson. Their contract is doing right by shawn watson. Which makes the houston texans in the right here and michael. Whoever that bullshit them come on man that's going by the law by on the unit right judge. How 'bout we do a bonus need whoever wins. This one wins the whole thing and it is the mlb owners versus the mlb pa regarding low twenty twenty one free agent contracts is michael taking a victory lap are going to do one more the nl the owners versus the ldp regarding lower twenty twenty one free agent contracts. They're falling like rock. Apparently the trevor. Bauer deals on a a third of what. Your kohl's is in guaranteed money. Half of what. Stephen strasburg is overall amounts benches. Half of what it was last year in free agent signings So brad you're at home. Which side you want to argue for. The owners of the mlb players association owners. Okay that means it gets go. I like these are the only ones i win. Should totally anti against. Let's put it this way right now. Last year was like a year. We've never seen before. Every corporation except amazon and a handful made money so when it comes to free agent spending and stuff like that. How can you spend money at the end of the line at the end of the day. They're just looking for their bottom dollar. They wanna make the most amount of money as they possibly can in going out and spending all this money on free agents right now. It's tough so if you wanna come play for a good organization complaint will get you a championship. We're gonna pay less than your deserved because of the times that were going through. And that's all. I'm going to say it's all about the times that we're going through right now. Why these numbers are lower. Michael rebuttal of half of the mlb players association. Yeah we don't wanna take the stake out of the rich fans mouth. That would be horrible. My rebuttal would be your remember back when baseball owners sports in this country ardley barely a while ago the late ninety s. I would argue the mid nineties. The ninety four ninety five strike helped lower the brand of baseball. And i think we're going to get to that point if the greed from the top does not spread a little bit layers are the ones that are actually bringing fans in the stands. Linda word is going to bring the fans in the stands In new york not the owner of that team. So my thing is open your pocketbooks a little bit with covid. Take a couple years to rebound for christ's sake if you if you can on a baseball team you've already got all the money in the world not gonna feel bad for you tap out the athletes who actually putting bunsen sand in the stands a. Let's say that teams should not spend damn money. I my favorite team who this guy right here. Looks like he just got off the bus for them. And minnesota twins reliever they. Have you like your lever owner in the league and they never spend money. So you're don't spend money than the players don't deserve it. actually. I like brand argument in this one The fact that the pandemic is the reason for the limited salaries makes sense to me And they're just as they have the right just as we do too old on every day make so i guess i rolling with mike on that one. Brad i meant. I'm wrong with brad brad. On that lint. Okay but michael still is. I think he's first. Winner of the are opening arguments segment view. If you were going to say mike. I was going to have to step outside here. Real quick. okay. You guys have cheats week at. You wanna nominate. The week comes from the music world. I think this might have happened a week or two ago but to me it just came. Relevant is travis barker my favorite drummer for blink. One to date data fucking kardashian. Are you fucking kidding. Me like i'm done. That's doesn't make him a cheater. He's supposed to cheating on me along as beautiful. I guess guess my honest sheet of the week in happened over a week ago. Maybe we can half ago. Discuss today would have to be the dodgers signing. Trevor bauer. it's got to the yankees. Are even the worst team in baseball anymore. Now it's the dodgers getting sick of watching these teams to spend this kind of money but at a time when nobody else suspending money exactly is one of those teams to i mean. They went all in. I can't blame them. I mean when you gotta. That's the thing is i think. Fans general overestimate their championship. Window being open. And it's like you know we've been landers diff been the dodgers snow. Well yeah they're not spending quite like the dodgers. The dodgers are well a exceeding the luxury tax but if they can afford to give free money to all the other organizations to pay these guys than why not if you got a chance to win a championship. A question does that make their fans any less passionate than say like us who we watch organizations that never go out and spend money we basically have broad generalizations about fan bases. Your fans are stupid. Man avenue would would. Oliver's change our tone if poland was actually out there spending the damn money that he hasn't is being in buying us. Trevor bauer buying us thanking to buy us a championship. I don't think that's what does it i see. That's the thing is. I appreciate watching the underdog overachievers like i like those teams. We didn't spend any money and may day. Lcs and that's my favorite of all time but agree. That's why i was so captivated by the world series last year. Which had terrible ratings from what i heard Because the devil rays were the second lowest payroll sport. The devil raise the raise the tampa bay rays second lowest payroll sport and now they're selling off all their good players to san diego so it's just like the close of major league baseball off seasons. I guess is just the hot stove eaten up. And it's never been offer our against colder depending on how you look at it. From the buyer's perspective no raise general manager estimates smartest man in the world to be i think i got special in their analytical department. I don't know who that person is that they have down there. But you you look at anybody. Who's hiring coaches down there. Basically from tampa bay like they came or came up that we were the first ones to do it in minnesota with the rockall he he got his start in the rate system and now virtually every coach. That is hired. Besides the goddamn white sox and rick renteria is who they hired. Eighty something year old old manager of the saint louis. That was the shortstop that tony larussa coached well. They hired her injury a guide him coach one of the youngest teams in baseball. And then everybody else takes Tony larussa is probably a little russa. Yeah that's the guy poached. He coached for them. What in the early eighties. Forty years later. They're giving him a seat back to the other argument. They're giving them a second chance. The first time around management just he was just a bad person. Kiki that's managed the history of the game so brad. Do you got a bad beat or a big win of the week. My my win of the week definitely would be on. Here's the deal. When it comes to like wins the week. I can be pretty decent when i sit down. I look at stuff. And i do stuff. My problem is being a A adding gambling on. I sit down. I have thirteen or fourteen you know scooters holy shit. It's like yeah. The bucks are up by six and a half points. They're going to win by six and a half points. Whatever so this week though. I'm sitting there watching the Warriors were playing kidding. Remember who they're playing five minutes left to go there up by fifteen points. I boom live. Betting put one hundred fifty dollars on them. Plus or minus fifteen and a half shit. They stretch the lead up to twenty three points. They put the scrubs in and once you know with three seconds left guy hits a three pointer to bring it down to fifteen points. I lose my half a fucking point. Are you fucking kidding me. Like seriously as a bad bad brands. I gotta historical fouled player for you so after the giants defeated the patriots in the two thousand eight superb. Al patriots fan named sean murphy stole from jewelers designing the giants championship. Rings actually ended up with quite a few of the meant to to go to rich giants fans while the thieves were cut. Murphy is still serving time. There's a book in the works about harpies life as well as documentary in an espn story. By sam. borgen murphy. Says the rings didn't motivate him to do the job but there's certainly paying off her now. You guys gotten thoughts on that story. I thought it was pretty incredible. Patriots loved fm story. Why what made him look up. The name of the designer of the diamond ring was the fact that the giants had just beat his team in the super bowl or superb owl. I can't say that word So i that that was an interesting motivation earns for asian had done the job regardless because it was just such a easy two million dollars and so i had a whole new roof went on down. Spent the whole nightmare and everything and an arrangement is hanging out. They weren't even like off up anywhere or anything like check out man it already gotten their actual race so yeah it's just a. I wanna see the documentary that i really do. I i want us a reenactment specifically like i want them to reenact the actual break in and everything. That is absolutely cool. So anthony my my win of the week. Though my absolute win of the week gotta do the imaging. Brad's big big brass bed. Where we of the week is years. And years ago. I used to degrade tom brady saying that. He's in a system. You pump any quarterback into that system. Either gonna win but germany buying. Tom did you. This guy is absolutely amazing. Absolutely amazing he comes into a brand. new team. looks fresher younger than anybody we've ever seen in our entire lives. I mean this guy is anti-drugs as looking drugs. I'm talking about better looking. You think he moved to florida his upper. Hgh h is in florida. I mean it is absolutely amazing. My win the week is seeing laid-back back. Tom brady getting drunk. Throwing the lombardi trophy boats from this strait laced guy with bill belichick that he barely would even smile. Did you see these guys shift based now in throwing a trophy. Yeah the daughter. Designer era the lombardi trophy. Wants an apology from tom. Brady for throwing at across the water. I mean that's the coolest thing like who did he throw it to right in the apologize he to catch it. I mean conclusion that they hook up. Like yeah i think guy can throw things in the other guy. He s things. And what's really what's really cool about it is. I wish every team would do kind of like they do with the stanley cup. Each person gets it for x. Amount of our go do what you wanna do. I mean the stanley cup is seen already it and most of us will ever seen our lives. Is that hillary kaplan the one on around the horn achieve mentioned that nothing. Like that's ever been done with the stanley cup. Because you can't throw that mother like you can't throw more than four five feet yard and maybe a couple yards like that thing is heavy and it's fallen apart before so you know you gotta be very doubt careful with that but i mean lombardi trophy. Every team gets its reproduction. It's not the same trophy we know. What's at the bottom of the tampa bay. People will be put to work going out looking for it like. Could you imagine that people running into the bay trying to find the lombardi trophy bay. What is super bowl parade. That will be. That's the first thing. All the kayaks shit in the san francisco bay when barry bonds was there doing the home run shit like dropping the water. This is going to be cool. There's going to be boats over there. Scuba divers people just dining grant is like last great days of baseball. Keep it up like seriously. Tom brady. Thank you for making me. Actually h one respect you win of the week man. Tom brady goat eats wow. I can't believe you went there. What's next nothing except for plead the fifth inning. If mike you wanna talk about that. John wheeler stuff. Holy shit you right up on this redoing. A former alignment of the seattle seahawks chan wheeler a. He's being charged with domestic abuse of his ex-girlfriend apparently choked her a couple times was a was surprised to find her alive Eating oily hasn't been found guilty at. He's bipolar and apparently was on medication. I don't know if he was offered at the time. I imagine that would be their defense. Was that it. Case of mental lapse. Remind would remind me. And i will say some stuff later about on alleged stuff that is the girlfriend said. It makes it interesting into the whole mental health stuff. Yeah well that's what my concern is like what is the ramifications of you know committing that crime because of the lack of medication because you you decided not to take your medication. Like you're still responsible for your actions. Michael known as a defense attorney. I would argue. No you're not because and it sounds like from the spn articles. Sounds like his defense team is doing what they're supposed to bi-polar does second. Look my mom. Can we take. We take twenty second timeout. But let's not go by. Espn what they put on their shit. Because going to the my source. When i have an eight tend to be the source i just. I don't like them. Especially with after the conor mcgregor stuff really bungled that one didn't they. Yeah that's what. I'm saying like that in that. That's where i lost a lot of respect for like espn report. Rights block of espn reporters. Yeah well he's got a good point regardless spirits news. As in quotes apparently win this happened or allegedly happened calling it a manic episode which does fit with bipolar and that does qualify as a mental illness or mental defect so he could bring a claim to alleviates I guess being held responsible. I mean you still can ask. Where does he live. King county washington have guilty but by reason of mental illness like launch. Still be punished but to your point. I don't think we can hold. People can't punish people for something they do when they're not taking their meds. Because how can you predict but gonna do in a manic state anyway Whether or not he's Purposefully not taking his meds Hope he gets the help needs. I hope is the alleged victim She needs i guess. Yeah washington i imagine they have a bit more of you know social services in that order net regard to montana does it. Looks like yeah. It looks like they're domestic violence. More serious than montana where he plead down to if anything i would assume he complete down to simple assault something of that nature misdemeanor domestic assault. You're say something definite thing with bipolar stuff though. That's one of the most fascinating mental diseases that there really is Do you ever deal with somebody. That is bipolar. The there's no there's no telling them it's basically all what's in their mind I'm no doctor. Or whatever. So i don't necessarily know what the medications do i don't know it just puts you in a numb state where you don't feel shit to me. That would be a horrible place to be living. So i could see why mentally you would not want to take this shit because you just feel like i know. My mom was married to one and when he stopped using his medication he became aggressive but not like physically aggressive just verbally aggressive. And so i can sort of relate to that but again. I don't know what any of those medications do you. i imagine. Yeah it would be mind numbing experience that puts you kind of just an single wavelength where you can't get too excited about anything and you can't get too mad about anything so i don't know how much i went to anger management classes at one point and they had a study outward they would inject this die into you. That would go in. And i believe it started like in seattle and it would show what parts of your brain work like. If you're a habitual sex offender or you just like to steal like this ship in your brain would tell you what parts aren't clicking on and off on financially. Nobody can afford to do it. No state can ever afford to do it on and to go back on my other thing that i said earlier about your mental health shit like that with the prison systems. That's one area which we would focus more on. Is your brain like what what makes what makes somebody go. Kill somebody because not. Everybody just can go do that on the still regardless of how many years we've Scientifically investigated the brain. We looking we still know so little about it. It's like the host slightly wrong. Like i never want to say if you do a horrible act just to be able to blame it on that but if we can figure out why you do that. What makes you wanna do that yet. There are some evil bad people out there but well. That's psychiatry i mean. And there's a complete lack of those types of services for people in especially red states. Let's i mean. I don't wanna be political. But that's that's where those services are lacking. Let's just be honest One thing you guys missing. Two's how much responsibility does the nfl or football general have for stuff like this. There have been studies employer. There have been studies with the way. The brain lacked around and football. It's leading to a lot of mental diseases. A lot of people are more violence after the game older disorders. One of those diseases. I who knows if it accentuates that disease though e i mean whether this the thing is like we're we're very much lacking in scientific research. I guess now. C. t. he's so new end. You know so little research that who knows if it has an effect on polar disorder. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't maybe that's we should look into now and i'm rooting for his defense team. But also football is very violent game very violent society. So it's not surprising that it bleeds out everywhere. I mean i guess well. I think that'll wrap up the first ever episode of foul play by play featuring opening arguments. My guests have been bradley. Hawes and michael haas. Please join us next time.

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Slow-Moving Sally, Breonna Taylor Settlement & Apples Reveal - Wednesday, September 16th, 2020

the NewsWorthy

11:25 min | 11 months ago

Slow-Moving Sally, Breonna Taylor Settlement & Apples Reveal - Wednesday, September 16th, 2020

"Today is Wednesday September sixteenth, we have an update about what is now a slow moving hurricane sally and which cities it's expected to impact most also what to know about a new plan for Covid nineteen relief bill and what other than money city police are promising in a multi-million dollar settlement with Brianna Taylor's family plus apple unveiled new products and subscription options. Why major celebrities are boycotting social media for twenty four hours and the world series location is official. Welcome. Welcome to the newsworthy all the day's news in less than ten minutes fast. They're fun and on the go I'm Erica Mandy. Thanks so much for being here. You're ready. Let's do this. We start today with Hurricane Sally, which is now a slow moving but still powerful storm and that could mean it's even more destructive for parts of the Gulf coast. It's moving only two miles an hour now, and it looks like Mobile Alabama could get a direct hit making the first time. A hurricane makes landfall in Alabama in sixteen years. The problem is since it's moving. So slowly forecasters say strong winds could end up battering some areas for thirty hours straight and flooding rain could be around even longer. If you remember, that's what happened back in two thousand seventeen hurricane harvey swamped the Houston Metro area the storm stalled over the city until several communities were underwater and the National Hurricane Center says, this storm looks a lot like that one the. Alabama coast and Florida panhandle started getting that heavy rain and flash flooding. Last night forecasters say when all is said and done people may end up seeing twenty to thirty inches of rain. That's several months worth in just about two days. Hurricane warnings are in effect for the cities of Biloxi Mississippi Mobile, Alabama Pensacola Florida, and all the towns in between thousands of people have. Evacuated, several organizations like the Red Cross, the party sent extra crews into the affected areas they're working to set up shelters and prepare food and basic necessities to storm victims. If you want to help out, you can text Red Cross to the number nine, zero, nine nine to make a ten dollar donation or we posted a link to donate more online in today's episode notes. With wildfires still burning in the western US dangerous smoke is expected to stick around for a while they p sided scientists and forecasters say the yellowish smog may linger for days or even weeks. Now, some hospitals in Oregon are seeing more emergency room visits because of the air quality health experts say people with Heart Disease Asthma or other respiratory conditions are especially at risk since the smoke can irritate the lungs now, parks and beaches are closed and places like the Oregon Convention Center in downtown Portland being used. As clean air shelters as for the fires themselves the largest ones across Oregon, California and Washington are still mostly out of control in Los Angeles. County firefighters trying to control flames burning within five hundred feet of the famous Mount Wilson Observatory. The one bright spot is no new deaths were reported from the fires yesterday also, of note, the Democratic vice presidential candidate. Kamala. Harris toured some of the wildfire damage in her home state of California yesterday in as we mentioned before president trump visited the state on Monday. Brianna Taylor is family is getting twelve million dollars from the city of Louisville Kentucky. Also more police reforms are coming and Taylor's family members are promising to keep up the fight for justice remember Brianna. Taylor is the EMT who was shot and killed by police in her own home back. In March, officers had a so called no knock warrant, a type of warrant that has now been banned in. The city, the officers say they were looking for drugs though they didn't find any instead they Taylor's boyfriend who says he thought the officers were intruders since they weren't in uniform. So we opened fire shooting police officer in the leg officers fired back and ended up shooting and killing on a Taylor. The attorney representing her family says, the wrongful death settlement announced yesterday is one of the largest settlements ever. Paid for the killing of a black woman by police, the settlement also came with several promises of reform. For example, from now on Louisville police supervisors will have to sign off on search warrants before they go to a judge for approval also social workers will start working with officers on at least some calls Louisville is developing an early warning system to track officers use of force incidents and officers are. Going to start being offered housing credits to encourage them to live in the communities they serve Brianna Taylor's mother says, this is a big step forward, but she's also still calling for the officers who shot her daughter to be fired and charged with crimes. The state's attorney general and the FBI are still investigating the case and so far no comment from the local police union about the plans for reform. New Analysis from the see shows at least one hundred and twenty-one young people in the US died from the new corona virus between February and July. Now, we're talking about people younger than twenty one years old deaths in this age group are rare the make up only one twelfth of all American covid nineteen deaths. But of those who did die the rates were higher among young people of Color about three quarters of those young people. Who died were either Hispanic black native American researchers say the reason people of color disproportionately affected is because overall white people are more likely to be able to work from home also, CDC. Pointed out the minority communities are more likely to have trouble getting medical care either because they don't have insurance paid sick leave or access to childcare overall nearly one, hundred, ninety, six, thousand Americans have died from cove in nineteen in the last seven months. People could be getting some more help from the federal government before the year is out or at least that's the hope house speaker. Nancy Pelosi told, CNBC house will remain in session until lawmakers deliver the next round of covid nineteen relief that means no October recess. There's no compromise and that's a big deal for members of Congress. Up for election and that could mean, they will not get to go home to campaign ahead of. November and until now, there hasn't been much progress remember talks Congress broke down well, White House Chief of staff mark, Meadows told Reuters. There's now a one and a half trillion dollar proposal up for consideration it was drafted by a group of bipartisan moderate lawmakers. So some Republicans say it costs too much some Democrats say it fall short, but it's a possible compromise the White House called it certainly worth discussion and worth consideration stay tune. For News is coming up at first this is brought to you by function of beauty one-size-fits-all never really gives you the perfect right. 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That does not include that blood oxygen reading, but it could broaden the appeal since a lot of Americans are more for cash than usual. The discount model called the Apple Watch S E will sell two hundred and seventy nine dollars starting Friday. The higher end model is four hundred dollars also apple launched two new subscription services. One offers virtual homework outs. It's called apple fitness plus and it's ten dollars a month or eighty dollars a year to workouts do not require much equipment if any. Some of the world's biggest celebrities are boycotting facebook and instagram today righty lists about a dozen stars like Kim Kardashian West Leonardo di caprio Jamie Fox and Katy Perry who all go off line freezing their accounts for twenty four hours and many encouraged their millions of followers to do the same. This is a protest how facebook and instagram handle heat propaganda and misinformation which they say is undermining democracy it was actually. Organized by the Stop Hate for profit campaign. That's the same coalition of civil rights organizations that convinced many big companies to take part in an ad boycott back in July back then facebook responded by getting more aggressive in moderating political posts but the stop for profit campaign says, that's not enough and that white supremacy hate violent conspiracies are still flourishing on the social media sites. This time around facebook has not responded yet. It's official Arlington Texas will host the world series this October. All the Games will be at the Texas Rangers. New. Ballpark. It marks the first time since nineteen forty, four that the world series will be played all at one site usually teams alternate between playing at home and on the road. But this year, the MLB wanted to cut down on the need to travel and allow players to stay in a so-called to bubble to avoid covid nineteen outbreak, and this will most likely be a neutral site. The Texas Rangers have one of the worst records in the league so they aren't expected to be playing in the world series. Fifty fifth. Annual. Academy of Country Music Awards or ACM words are tonight. Of course, like most things look a little different because of covid nineteen but it's still going to be a star studded event. The show will open with a performance by the nominees for entertainer of the Year Carrie Underwood Luke Bryan Eric Church Luke Combs and Thomas Rhett then later on Taylor swift is performing at the for the first time in seven years the show will be hosted by Keith urban and will be broadcast from National Tennessee for the first time ever without a live audience, you can watch the tonight at eight eastern on CBS. And that's it for the main ten minutes of news today. But now it's time for work. Wednesday. Where we break down one interesting career or work related news story every Wednesday but I. if you've ever thought of starting a podcast or maybe you already have one podcast movement virtual is a great way to learn everything that goes into creating, growing and monetize your show I. Actually went to my first podcast movement event the week launched the Newsworthy and I've gone back every year since this year of course is a little different because it's virtual but that means you'll have a chance to get a feel for it while it's less expensive and you can join easily from anywhere in the world sign up now a virtual dot podcast movement dot. com. And use the code September this month only to save twenty percents off. So today's work is about how Americans are booking more AIRBNB. So for work and we're not talking about business trips. AIRBNB says the number of reviewers mentioning remote working has tripled since last year and people are booking long-term stays as in twenty eight nights or more in places like Whitefish Montana Shenandoah, national. Park in Virginia and Windsor County. Vermont axios says the reason is that city dwellers are trying to get closer to nature by traveling to forested areas or beaches, and it's not just airbnb cashing in on the trend for example, Barbados and Bermuda are offering telework visas and resorts in places from South Carolina to the Dominican Republic are creating remote work and remote learning packages for family. All right. Thank you so much for listening today and every day. We'll catch you up on more news now tomorrow until then have a great day.

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Grocery workers win hazard pay

Seattle Now

11:52 min | 5 months ago

Grocery workers win hazard pay

"Hey it's patricia murphy. It's tuesday this is seattle now. Big grocery is pushing back against seattle's four dollar an hour pay hike for some workers but the union that represents them says it'll keep pushing to to bring the pay bump to more cities. We'll talk about hazard. Pay with seattle times reporter david gutman but first let's get you caught up mariners ceo. Kevin mather is out. He resigned on monday less than twenty four hours after a video surfaced where he said all kinds of things. You don't want to be on record saying about your players. The mlb players association says his comments were inappropriate but give a transparent look into how club. Managers really think about their players. The teams chairman. John stanton will take over the job while the m.'s look for a permanent replacement. There's no progress to report on a return to in person learning for seattle public school students. The district already said it wouldn't meet its march first deadline yesterday. It told parents any possible. Return is pushed back for at least another week. Updates from the union and school officials yesterday. Point to disagreements over plans to keep teachers safe things appear to be pretty stuck. There's also no agreement over whether to bring in a mediator and a seattle woman got more than she bargained for when she bought a crochet kit from a thrift store in greenwood. Sure it had everything she needed to make some cute animal hats but with bonus brick of cocaine no life seattle police said the woman opened the box and found what turned out to be a kilo of cocaine wrapped up inside. She immediately called the cops. No word on how it got there but you can bet someone was missing when the pandemic hit. Nearly everyone ran for the grocery store. Sales and profits grew but so did the risk for employees now. Seattle said that workers at larger grocery chains get paid for that risk an extra four dollars. An hour and affected grocery. Stores have responded. Tj's is leaning it while kroger closed stores and laid off employees here to explain his david gutman. He covers local politics for the seattle times. Hi david hi. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. So there was hazard pay for frontline workers for a while that was back at the start of the pandemic and then that pay went away now. Some cities are stepping in. Where did the idea of four dollars an hour come from. It came largely from the united food and commercial workers. Union the union representing grocery workers and they. They've pushed legislation like this in a bunch of cities along the west coast not seattle. Although seattle was the first big city to get it done long beach california. Berkeley california have passed similar legislation and and both san francisco and la are in the process. So this doesn't apply to all grocery chains like seven. Eleven isn't involved in this right. Correct does not apply to convenience stores places like that it applies to national or regional grocery chains in seattle so the store has to be greater than ten thousand square feet and the company has to have more than five hundred employees worldwide as to be a big store and a big company and the grocery industry association very unhappy with this yet to groups that represent washington grocers have have sued the city of seattle. There's two basic arguments one. Essentially that they're being unfairly singled out of other industries and the other that they have collective bargaining agreements with the unions that they work with and this kind of unfairly infringes on those agreements and just perspective here. What do grocery workers in this town generally make her our without this extra money. Well i think it varies a lot. The minimum wage at a big grocery store and seattle is about sixteen dollars an hour. I think you could assume that a lot of you know new grocery workers who just hired or making somewhere around that on the other hand grocery workers who have been there awhile and are in a unionized job or are making you know significantly more than that perhaps double maybe even more and i'm curious if these hazard pay laws say anything about safety measures or working conditions or are we really just paying people. Because we can't mitigate the risks of interacting with the public at this point. No they don't require anything. There's no mandate about safety or or precautions and a lot. The grocery stores and grocery companies will tell you look. We've spent a lot of money on adding staff to sanitize things on plexiglass dividers on things like that. But no this law certainly here in seattle. And i think the the other ones are about well. These grocery workers are putting themselves at risk when a lot of us are are working from home and and they should be paid for it. Yeah and a lot of that argument from the store is part of the pushback. We are doing enough. The profit margins are very slim here for us. Some of the chains have really balked at this bump in pay kroger supermarkets decided to close to stores and they blamed it directly on this move here in seattle and i think something like a hundred employees are going to lose their jobs now between those two stores does the claim checkout that grocery chains cannot afford this money. That's a good question i think. In the case of those to cure see stores. The claim is at minimum highly disputed. The mayor seattle jenny. Durken came out and said at least one of those two stores was already scheduled to close the union. Ufc w will say. Both of them were scheduled to close. I think even kroger admits they were kind of underperforming stores. Whether this was the straw that broke the camel's back or they were going to close. Regardless i think is certainly up for debate on the other hand trader. Joe's sought you know. This law passed in seattle. So passing a couple of california cities and said we're going to do this nationally for all our employees. We're going to give them all four dollars. An hour hazard pay for as long as the pandemic occurs. What we're going to do is cancel a regular media raise. That would have been permanent. As opposed to temporary is but much smaller it would have been. I think somewhere around sixty five cents an hour so there are offsetting it just a bit by not giving that pay raise to employees exactly. Amanda dalton is the head of the northwest grocery association. Which of course is fighting against this. And she says that stores aren't as risky as they're being made out to be you know. Grocery stores are not at the center of this community. Spread both in seattle and really in washington. I'm so i think that's kinda widely question why were being targeted. What do we know about the risk inside stores. Well we know that stores grocery stores are indoor places where people continue to if not congregate at least come together in an indoor place and other than specific scenarios. I think there's been so much covid spreading around the country. It can be tough to pinpoint in many cases the exact cause of of a specific infection or outbreak so our grocery stores uniquely dangerous. No i don't think so. I would imagine they're safer than for instance in person dining which you inherently have to take your mask off to do you. Everyone at least here. In seattle in grocery stores is still masked up on the other hand schools in seattle public schools. Still remain closed Movie theaters are closed. So there aren't that many big indoor public spaces where people still come together and grocery stores are one of them. The department of health says that The link to grocery stores is about five percent of non healthcare kovin outbreaks. But i have to say being inside a grocery store shopper. Feels like a very vulnerable experience. You just cannot control the people around you. And i would imagine if you're grocery store worker. Who didn't sign up to work in a setting like this. That's a very very tough place to be in right now. Yes sure and you know not not to play too much armchair epidemiologist but it does feel a little uncomfortable. Sometimes when you're in a grocery store and if you're shopping in a grocery store you can at least try and you know steer clear of other people and kind of walk the other way down the aisle or turnaround or maneuver if you're standing at checkout. There's no maneuvering the the people come to you. And they're right there and yes certainly. Nobody signed up for this and there are many of us who who have been working from home. I've seen it. I've seen it in the stores. I've seen grocery workers be confronted by unsafe situations that they have not felt comfortable addressing in the moment david in the end someone is going to pay for this. Who's it going to be well. That's a good question i think. The supporters of the bill would point to record profits among large grocers. Places like kroger and target and amazon which owns whole foods. The grocery industry would counter with saying you know we. We are bringing in large amounts of gross revenue. But this is a very slim profit margin. Business you know. Profit margins are under one percent and the money has to come from somewhere so will we see prices rise. I'm not sure you know when these when this law was originally being passed the state grocery said we'll see you know grocers cutting down in kind of community work with food banks sponsoring local nonprofits. I think that's a good question it remains to be seen. We saw it a little bit with the fifteen dollars. An hour minimum wage. Some restaurants raising their prices directly related to that law so we will find out The union is holding a press conference today about taking this idea to more cities. They're trying to capitalize on this momentum. Right now are we seeing the start of another fifteen dollars. An hour minimum wage story where west coast cities in unions team up for workers and try to rack up some wins and up making national policy. That's a good question. I think one big difference here obviously is that even in all the cities that have passed a law already. it's temporary and for instance in seattle. This four dollar pay raise will go away without the city council having to act again as soon as you know. Well hopefully we are not in civic emergency forever and once that ends once the mayor declares you know the enough people have been vaccinated or reached her immunity. Or whenever that happens. This will go away. But i don't know when that's going to happen. I don't think anybody does so. In the meantime it does seem like. There's a real possibility of this happening in more cities here to here. I david says the pandemic is going to end at some point. If wishing made itself. Right right david. Seattle times politics reporter. Great to talk to you. Thank you of course. Thanks for having me. Seattle now is produced by days of began caroline chamberlain inclement green matt. Jorgensen does music. I'm patricia murphy tomorrow.

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