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Mitch Albom

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Mitch Albom

"Hey everyone it's Mike Ryan producer. The Dan Le Batard show with Stugatz. An producer of south beach sessions. And this week's episode is a real treat for you Mitch. Albom joins Dan Laboratory now. Mitch as you know is a legendary sports writer for the Detroit Free Press. He's also written absolute classic in Tuesday's with Morrie a book that'll be remembered forever. Really but what I didn't know was how much influence Mitch had on our radio show. It was really cool to hear. Dan and Mitch discuss him in that. See Mitch being one of the true crossover sports media source. I was a columnist before had a radio show. It was simulcast on television and I learned a lot in listening to this. I also always had a lot of respect for Mitch Albom but that respect only grew after hearing some of the amazing work that he's done down in Haiti. This episode is certainly worth your time. We appreciate you listening. Make sure to subscribe rate review. If you're enjoying what you're hearing this week's episode of South Beach sessions is brought to you by Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire. Please enjoy this episode South Beach Sessions Featuring Mitch Albom. So this is my mother's favourite author right here Mitch Albom. I took my mother to a church far away from where I live. Not that long ago to hear him speak because his message is cool it spiritual. It's interesting it's giving and I don't think that Mitch knows exactly how much of an inspiration he's been on all the stuff that we have done professionally down here in Miami. Because Mitch did all of it. I he was on. I remember looking at my television and not understanding how Mitch Albom could be doing. Radio show on. Msnbc WAS MSNBC right. That's what it was and like Joe. Pinto Leoni is walking into sit down next to you and I'm like how is he allowed to do that? He's just a sports writer. So Mitch was a better sports writer than me. A long time ago. I was never able to beat him at any of the contests in sports writing. He won all of the awards. And then I'm watching on radio and he's and I'm like. Oh Wow look. He's allowed to do things that I haven't even dreamed of as possible so at the risk of embarrassing you one of the many reasons I admire. You is because even with that professionally. What you do personally with this platform and this power where you have decided to be someone who is enormously giving in a way that don't think any of my colleagues are giving. I just wanted to tell you all that on the front end before I ask you about a bunch of questions about who you are and how you are because I have found the body and breath of your career to be breathtaking that you're not only an enormously successful author but you're not only the one of the best sports writers that the John Ras ever known. But you're also somebody who's just crazy giving in ways that I'm not even sure I understand how that happened. Well I don't even know what to say any but thank you. I've known you a long time in a mired you you're wrong about the writing part. I remember when you wrote. You're excellent and I'm sure it's still are in and as far as the other stuff. Yeah I I got teased a lot for having already. I remember one particular gentleman by the name of Tony Kornheiser. Who WHEN I was at A. I think we're at a football game or baseball basketball. Whatever it was and I came downstairs to breakfast and I had to excuse myself from the table to go make a phone call to a radio station This was in the late eighties and I came back to the table on. Remember Tony Going. Oh Mr Radio and that was that was Tony Kornheiser who has become the next forty people in line and certainly May And and Television was kind of the same way you know. The sports supporters gave a lot of us a An opportunity to be on TV when Sports Writers Warren always weren't necessarily on TV and that an entree to espn a lot of stuff but I was fortunate I had a newspaper. That was okay with that kind of stuff And actually let me start writing a non sports column nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. So I've been thirty plus years. A lot of people don't know we don't know me. Outside of sports that Britain a Sunday column. That is not about sports for Thirty. Two years So my interest of always kind of been you know all over the place but You know you don't need to acknowledge Anything about the giving part of the I consider that a requirement of life and And an absolute obligation when you've been blessed as much as I have or even less than I have so thank you for the kind words Dan. Oh but no. I don't think people understand though the depths of your devotion to kind of causes I'm talking about this is just flipping generosity. This is you you going back and forth to Haiti. I don't mean to embarrass you hear Mench but can you tell the people what you've done in Haiti like is there a way to ensure explain how it is and why it is? You're carrying about people that not a whole lot of white people in America are caring about well. The short version of it is I'd never been to Haiti then. After the earthquake of pastor came to me and told me that he had an orphanage there and Nettie thought had been destroyed and he couldn't get any was there any way I could help them get down to Haiti and the idea of children being buried under rubble and nobody looking for them was just too much to bear. And and so I- cobbled together. Some help I got a small plane and I got permission from the government because the senator who ran that whole thing was from Michigan and he gave us a ten minute window to fly into Haiti two weeks after the earthquake. Nobody was going if you remember. You know we're no commercial flights of just the military and I landed there and I went to this place it hadn't been destroyed but it had been overrun and What I saw there never left me and the kids and I had a very quick bond and I came back to Michigan. I began to gather up a lot of good Detroit. People who are out of work. At the time I remember I was two thousand ten. We were still in the throes of the recession and We had Plumbers roofers contractors. Painters everything I got twenty three of them and we started using Roger Penske's plane when he wasn't flying his auto team around and we started taking trips back and forth the Haiti with all this crap loaded into the cargo. Hold that you're not supposed to take on a plane like paint. And things like that and we began to rebuild his orphanage. I my bond with the kids grew stronger and I noticed that they weren't eating even though we were building. The first toilets in the kitchen for showers all these things that they had an ad but they weren't eating so I went to the pastor was in his mid eighties and I said I don't get it like we're doing all this work back and forth here. The kids aren't eating and he said well to be honest. I don't have any money to run this license and I haven't had money run it in years and in one of those moments that I don't look back on later in your life and you wonder what you were thinking. I just blurted out. Well you know. I run some charities in Detroit. I I could probably run this place if you want me to. And and he said You know Hallelujah. Jesus here it is you know and the handed it over and I've been running it ever since and I'm there every month have been for over ten years now every month in eighty and I have admitted forty six new children from earthquake hurricane another devastated zones in in Haiti and we raised them there. We don't adopt anybody out and we now fifty two children And they go to school on the premises. They have three healthy meals a day. Their own beds we have Nannies Music Teachers Language Teachers. They're all on par graduate now at eighteen. And I have college scholarships lined up. Believe it or not for all fifty two of them if they should pass a total test here in America. It's two more already in school in one of them like a proud Jewish mother would say one of them was premed in four point. -O from originally having to do his homework on his knee with a flashlight because we lose power in Haiti. You know every night is probably know. And so. That's how did his homework was on his knee with a pencil. And he's now or point zero at American University premed. So I'll be there the rest of my life you know and and those kids are my children. You know my my my wife and I never had kids of our own and we have found in our early fifties when we started and now we have fifty two kids. I love them and They need the help. Most of these kids have been abandoned. you know. We have a few were left to die out in the woods and they were found a couple that were left it malnutrition centers and nobody ever came back for them for several years. So there's a lot of lost forgotten children around the world but particularly in Haiti and we try to provide a home for them and and a life oil. That story is crazy. It really is meant all of it. And you've been in the business of telling crazy stories for a long time. I'm curious how much you were shaped specifically because you came through South Florida as a writing prodigy but then you went to Detroit and the stuff that you were writing was so rich and had to be a little bit foreign to you right because I recognize some of it in Miami ending up in these worlds where a lack of opportunity had created a desperation that made people who weren't bad be an unbelievably shitty circumstances. It has to be part of shaping. Just what you've been doing for the last thirty years in terms of helping black people in Detroit that a lot of people don't care about and helping a black people in Haiti that a whole lot of people don't care about well I'm sure Gonna. Detroit really brought that out in me to be honest. Danny I mean I was here in nineteen eighty five and I didn't really get as serious about it until my experience with more Schwarzen- told Tuesday's Maury you know I was people. Don't know I went to go visit all college professor of Mine and he He was dying from Lou. Gehrig's disease and I started visiting them every Tuesday and went on for months and months and months until he died and we sort of did last class together on. What's important in life once? You really know you're going to die and watching him die in front of me and this was someone. I really respected. I lost touch with and I become very ambitious. You're painting me out to be much more saintly than I was when I was younger I was very selfish and very ambitious and very hungry to do well in the sports writing business. I don't think I was an Asshole to people but I certainly wasn't thinking about a whole lot of other people and and then one time when I was with him and this was in the mid nineties he said. What do you do for your community and I said what do you mean he said? Well how do you know? What do you do for charities or people who are needy in your community? You're in Detroit. And I said I I write checks and he said well anybody can write a check. But you've been given a voice and you need to used boys for something more than just aggrandizing yourself. That's exactly the words he used. And that really hit home to me in August with somebody I respected and I realize pitcher enough at that point my life my mid thirties kinda realize he was right. And that's when I really kinda started throwing myself into. I started my first charity that year And eventually started. I've nine different charitable operations here and you'RE IN DETROIT UNDER AN UMBRELLA DAY DETROIT. And that was sort of the big impetus up it. But you're right once I got involved with it. There's no shortage of stories like that here in Detroit. It's a very very challenged underdog city and I remember writing early columns. I remember one in particular about I call it. The Sentinel was about a kid who quit his basketball team and his coach. Call Me High School Kid and this goes called me and said yeah you know. I got this situation with this kid down here. Maybe you can help her tell stories. So what is it he said? Well this kid quit our team. He was a star player and quit our team so why did quit as well so I don't really know we can't find him you know he doesn't come to practice anymore so he and I sort of dug into it and it turned out that he quit so that he could stand on the porch of his mother's house And protect her from drug dealers. Who were coming to feed her crack cocaine while he was at basketball practice in so he was big kid so he just stood on the porch and when they would come you'd have his hands dug in his pocket pretending he had a gun. Whatever and they would walk away and that's why had quit now. That's not an everyday story. No permits you had so many of them. It's not an everyday story but Detroit seem to have more of a Miami had plenty of them but you found so many stories like that and I remember admiring men. This dude is going into the grit of his city and he's finding the stuff that's real and human and no one is looking for for. The Grit of our city isn't far from the guild of our city. That's the thing you know. It's blocks away. The crappy parts. Detroit are very close to the resurgence of Detroit. Even now you only have to be everybody talks about how the trump is coming back and there is a a str- avenue Woodward Avenue which is kind of a Broadway which everything is kind of on and go but you go half a mile to the right or the left and you can find any one of those stories so you know I felt. It was my obligation. I thought I wasn't put here for by accident and I could do more good writing about those stories than my friend. Like Lupu who I do. The sports reporters with I remember Mike All those years. Mike would say I write about stars. People know about stars I read about stars and I remember thinking I do. Exactly what am I doing wrong? I'm not writing about anybody. Anybody knows about but you know everybody has a different path and I guess that was my so. How does it end up happening? So you're writing Tuesdays with Morrie and at the time are you seeing? Wow this is going to be powerful content. Like how much is because you were saying. You were wildly ambitious right before that but you learned all sorts of things in there that offered you like sort of spiritual moments of clarity right like what ended up becoming a commercial success. Was it at least in part because of your ambition or were you just sent there by love. No you know and I didn't go there to write a book. I went there to visit with him and At one point you know after a few visits he suggested that we tape our conversation so that I be able to listen to him after he was gone you know and so we started recording them and it was only after. He told me that he was in debt up to his eyeballs because he had taken Alex loans. And you know he couldn't eat and have a good severance going to have tenure deal with his university. He had to pay for two years of worth of people coming to the House because he was dying at home not in hospital and he said I'm going to die and then my family's GonNa have to sell the house because they don't have money to pay these bills in it's killing me. I'm GONNA die twice. And that was the whole for Tuesdays with Morrie and I started going around to publishers in New York and asking them if they could if they were interested in. Could they give just enough money to pay his bills and most of them? Dan said no they weren't even interested in it was boring. It was depressing was a sports writer. Who would read a book like that so I had no confidence even when we found one publisher they gave us the money. I gave all the money to Moore and said you know. Pay Your bills and there was just enough to pay his bills and I always thought I would say you know. Tuesday's more ended for me that day because I finally come around and done one. Nice thing back for this guy who was doing all these nice things for me and I wrote the book really. We're obligated to write the book you know but nobody thought it was going to be successful book. I thought I'd get laughed at. You know in the sports writing community for trying to write the soft a spiritual a spiritual book. Yeah hold on a second if I may because a lot of the people listening to this might be younger and they might not even know what it is that we're talking about as ridiculous as that seems because you wrote a book while not the Koran or the Bible. You wrote a book that people remember and those are rare to come by and so that book and you explain to people the success that it had for the people listening. Don't understand that this level of success has happened. Maybe two five authors ever. Well I'll explain it but I don't WanNa take any credit for it but what happened was They printed twenty thousand copies total and we thought that that would be all that would be. I'd be selling them out of the trunk of my car for the rest of my life. You know and when it came came on August that ever green month for new publications August. That's when you're on a read a book on a spiritual book at that so nobody had any plans for. Didn't it didn't do anything. It just came out and it just kind of sat there you know in terms of sales and things like that but these were the days which are gone now. When bookstores small independent bookstores would sort of pass on books and it started to get this little following independent bookstores would pass it on on a pass it on and it just started to build and they had to go back and reprint but they would reprint like thousand at a time because they said well this is real you nine thousand two thousand and so if you ever look at the front at. Tuesday's more it has like one hundred seventy five printings because I always say. Don't be impressed by that. It's like the first one hundred fifty two thousand at a time and and then it just sort of started to catch on showed up on a bestsellers list in I think November. After it'd come out not August. Usually most books are gone by then and it just started to slowly rise up and then Oprah Winfrey had me on your show for five minutes and I remember I did a five minute segment at the end of show she was doing with Elizabeth Kubler. Ross about that and when I got done the president of Harpo whatever has to see me and he said that was very interesting. Little segment you did. At the end there is a thanks. He said you know. How many books do you have out there now and I said I don't I don't know he said well you better tell your publisher print like two hundred thousand books because that was a powerful segment and I said Would you mind if I dial number in New York right now? Would you say what you just said to me to the person on the other end of the phone and he laughed and said sure so. We've called the publisher and I said listen. I'm sitting here in Chicago. That's where she was with a president of Harpo and he He has something to say so he got him phone and he said Yeah we just did a segment with Michio was really powerful and you know. I think you should have a couple of hundred thousand books out there when this airs in a couple of weeks so they hung up and they printed five thousand and they ran out of books right before Christmas. When that's no hold on a second this this has a happy ending. This all has a happy ending. But so hold on. This is pre Internet. Okay and this is Oprah Winfrey at basically the height of she she can make anything go viral right. And so you go on there you do something that's heartfelt emotional and pure in spirit because you're just trying to help how. What was the nature of his debt can? Can we get into the specifics? He died from Lou Gehrig's disease and he owed Very low six figures In IN MONEY. Which was you know? I mean you know single digits six figures and so you know we. The money went to pay his bills and take care of his family. And all that and that was fine by me. I wasn't doing it to make money and I was just trying to go back to be in a sports writer in surprised that I even got asked. I don't know how Oprah Winfrey found the book I mos- like I reached out to where I couldn't even get on interviews because nobody wanted talk to me because I was a sports writer and they said you know he's not the regular. They couldn't even get on sports programs. Because we don't talk about a dying old man died from Lou Gehrig's disease so there really wasn't that much publicity or anything like that. It just sucked quarter grew and to get to the end of it. Because I don't want to spend a lot of time with what am I? Okay no but okay look. I know there's a lot of ego here here but it's one of the great success stories in the history of writing because if there are many people here who might not have any idea how big that book ended up becoming well cut to the end. It's now the biggest selling memoir in the history of publishing and I don't know how many copies got twenty million or something like that are purchased. But there's also it's taught school systems around the world. Starting all over America in junior highs in even elementary schools sometimes colleges. It's taught in Australia. China Japan Sweden. It's fifty two languages or fifty two countries in forty seven languages. And so I you know the breath of it goes on and on and his teaching goes on and on which I'm happy about you know people but again I don't take credit for. Its not my writing. That may choose as with Maury an embrace book. It's the wisdom that Morrie had and shared that I wrote down. You know I'm Aristotle Plato. Or Plato Darris. Whichever one was the one who wrote down with the other ones that And so I never kidded myself that it was about me but I'm glad that is words or are still being taught an interesting. We can never read a word of it. You know so you think about that. And when I talk about what I've learned from Tuesday's with Morrie I always say you never know the impact. You're going to have on another person that affects another person that affects another personnel affects the world. Maurice Schwartz died. You know not ever knowing that a book was ever. GonNa come out about him. And now they're millions and millions and millions of people around the world who know who he is and and and and have shaped their lives at least in a small way by his philosophy and he's not even here to see that happen so we never know in no the ripples in the pond that were making with our existence. And right there. At that crossroads like you can point to that time learning about death learning about mortality inspecting at an interesting age your own ambition your own ego. Your own. Need to climb professionally. You can point to watching your teacher. Your literal teacher die as the time that your path sort of shifted not to say that we don't have our selfish moments now too but your path shifted to realizing. Oh I need to be a vehicle for something larger than just sports stories that feed my ego. Well Yeah Now yes absolutely. That was the moment to change and it. You know it wasn't even me making that decision. It was the world around me making that decision. Perfect example. Before Tuesday's more came out you know I was on. Espn and people knew my face and they would stop me in airports. And they'd say things like Hey Mitch Albom. Espn WHO's GonNa Win Super Bowl and I would say you know patriots and just kind of go up the escalator. Patriots Watt. By and then after Tuesday's more came out after a little bit People would stop me in airports but they would say hey My mother was dying from cancer. And we just read your book together. That was the last thing we did together. Can I? Can I talk to you about it? And you can't say Patriots go up the escalator. You have to stop and that Dan has happened to me starting then every single day of my life if I go out in public and sometimes hundreds of times in the day I do a speech or at appearance. So you when you start to hear people's stories about the sadness that they carry around about their morning about what they held a miss somebody when people start pulling out their wallets saying this was my Maury and they show you a picture of somebody in their life. You change you have to change. Only the hardest heart in brain Would not change. And that became my existence and I started being asked to speak to hospice groups in and university groups that are coming in funeral groups and suddenly you know my world which had been all these press boxes and and and you know locker rooms and that kind of stuff began to fade. You know and I I did less and less of it. I don't do a whole lot of it much anymore but I started very slowly kind of cutting. But what a drain Mitch. What a drain. I know it's hugely fulfilling. I know it's an enormous blessing power to have you have to treasure it but holy Shit. What an emotional drain to have to take care of all those strangers. Well you know it can be draining. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I remember Amy Tan. The great writer of the joy luck club is a friend of mine and I had sent her. An early copy of twos has more reported. Come out because she was someone I knew from this band that I play with Dave Barry Stephen King and all those guys and I said Amy. I've never written a book like this like. Would you just read this? Tell me if I'm like a hundred miles off from how you write a book that moves people all eyewitness Fab five and Bell You. You were afraid it would be way too soft way too spiritual that the caveman sports audience was going to be like was gonNA tear it apart with its teeth because oh come on stop telling us about God and wisdom and just knock it off sports guys even more than that. I was afraid that the audience that might like a book like it that I would have. Clunk elite handled it like a sports writer would and they would go with. This is crap so you know I. I'd be damned if I did and damned if I did so I sent it to her and I remember very distinctly up. She called me up and she spoke to things to say to you. So what should number one? This is a really powerful book and I think it's going to have a really big audience. This was before they printed a single copy of it and I said come on Amy. You know what's the second thing and she said you're about to become everybody's rabbi and I didn't know what she meant by that. But it has proven to be exactly what I just said to you that now I am the receptacle of sad stories in depth stories and illness stories and then I have to say you know I went through about twenty years of being able to handle it And being apathetic and being you know an ear and just saying listen I have to. You know this is who I am now and this is the role that I've is either. I've either chosen or it's been chosen for me but this who you are. You can't turn the depth ear and you need to be empathetic and I've learned how to do it and then I you know I don't need to go into the whole story but we a we brought up one of our kids from Haiti and she became our essentially our daughter for two years and she died from a brain tumor and ever since that happened. I can't really handle it the way that I used to. You know now every time someone tells me a sad story about somebody who lost even though I lost my mother and my father along the way and all the rest something about losing the child That sadness now that when I when people tell me their stories it goes pierces right through my heart and everything about losing cheek. Our little girl comes right back and I get all emotional Become Difficult It didn't used to be only recently has become that way but anyhow I mean I accept that as part of you know who I am now and you know. I think it's a better part of me better than Patriots. I know it is. It is but you skipped over. You skipped over something a pain that I can't possibly imagine and because I know that you are trying to give those people that empathy that you were trying to give them the idea that you would have some part of you broken by a pain that makes you not want to go out into what has been your life's purpose for awhile now since you saw your teacher die. There's something really heartbreaking of about having you articulate it that way that you can't give your special purpose of giving and sharing love and because you're paying is too large because what you're just talking about changes a person like you're learning from teachers there right Mitch. You're learning from your learning for more in your learning from your daughter there. Yeah and life is a series of learning like that and I didn't know that that was going to happen But you know I wrote. I wrote a book about the two years that we had her with us. Than how we traveled around the world. Trying to find a cure for this inoperable Brain Tumor And they told us that she would die in four months but but she didn't she lived two years and they were to amazing years and she was funny as Shit and and just bossy in loud and and singing she was like Apple Merman size. Two shoes you know. And she was she was just great. I mean in every way every day was an adventure with her. You never knew what was going to come out of her mouth and it was delightful amazing two years at that. My wife and I got to be a family with a little girl because as I mentioned we didn't have children of our own even though we've got all the kids in Haiti and so Losing her When we finally did You know I needed to do something with that grief and you know I wrote a story. I wrote a book about her. All the money of which by the goes to the orphanage less than anybody thinking. I'm I'm trying to capitalize on that. I you know I wanted to get it out and I said you know maybe this can be her legacy and then I started traveling around for the book which came out November and from almost the first night. You know 'cause we did. Every place we went was a charity. I didn't do any bookstores. Just charities every night different charity that had to do with this either. Haitian relief charities or adoption agency charities or dip which was a disease that you died from charities or kids cancer charities make a wish foundation or hospice charity and so many people would come up and tell me about their children that they had lost and I was wiped out by the time the night was over and it actually took a physical toll on me I to step away I became very anxious in and I didn't know what was going on. I thought I thought I had an illness. You know and it turned out a lot of the physical pain I was going through was related to just anxiety. Oh my God. It was all emotional. Because you've always been a picture of fitness Mitch. Like kornheiser still yelps. As if you're a world world class athlete about how your your ambition on a on a stairmaster treadmill like you mean. The emotion ravaged your body for a period of short period of time. Yeah until I understood what was going on and then And then they said you know you got to cut this out you know. You've you've got to step away from it and I did and you know I. I felt better relieving so now. I have an understanding. Now the world you know that was going on right up until the corona virus hit And so In its own weird way that the world has you know. It's sort of rebalanced itself in my health's favor you know and because you could be at home resting now not being not not being a vessel for everyone's grief. Yeah and I don't mean to say that Douglas that's a I mean I'll get over it and I'll return to speaking in all that I just have to deal with it but I'm just saying for twenty years I was able to. I was just able to sort of separate myself from it and it was only after losing our little girl that that I don't know like somehow like a hole in a balloon you know and then the air just started to come out and once you it doesn't have to be a big Ole. Just you know they are starts going the other direction. I wonder if you remember a conversation that we had. It was very brief. And I say this as someone who was young didn't know anything at the time was probably a bit of an Asshole. Kind of whatever it is that you imagine that you were before you or thirty. Four thirty five years old when you were being driven by whatever are silly. Sports writer sportswriter ambitions. Where we were on the set of the sports reporters. I'm about twenty nine or thirty years old and being next to you and Lucan Bob Ryan is the height. It's the height of my career. There is no greater higher place that I could be always treated me very gently very kindly in a way that I never forgot. I was always appreciative of but there was only one time off camera where I felt like I had failed. You disappointed you do you. Do you know where I'm headed with this? Do you know what I'm GonNa. I'm sorry that's okay. No because I asked you why. Why would you get married? If if it wasn't to have kids I asked you like totally confused. I knew that I didn't understand. Why would anybody get married? The only point to getting married is having kids and you looked at me and you weren't judgmental or I couldn't see it but you sort of said no to share your life with somebody jackass you didn't say jackass but but I didn't know like I didn't know that what I was headed into. There was your life then taking you to a place where the woman you were married at the time that you were saying nope at fifty years old. I'm going to have my own family and it's going to be an orphanage in Haiti. I didn't realize that until right now that your story went along that path where somewhere along the way. You didn't have kids but you decided to adopt fifty two of them in another country. Well I didn't know at the time that I was talking to you that my life would take that path either but I think what happened was in probably the reason. I reacted the way you did was. I got married later in life. My wife was thirty nine. I was thirty seven when we got married and We try to have kids. But you know it didn't happen. I mean that's pretty late in life actually the to try and so we just sort of settled into our role is uncle and aunt and that was kind of it and you probably had asked me that question. Maybe shortly after we realized that the window had closed on us. And you know you don't want to be told that your marriage doesn't make sense. Well I didn't know I was saying that it's one of my many famous awkward moments. Well that's probably how I took it you didn't you know I don't blame. You didn't know but you know probably it was right around the time we realized weren't gonNA have kids But we were still married and happy together and and you know it's funny. How life spins around Dan? Because you know I remember before I got married. And I I actually write about this in the finding ticket book as a whole chapter about my wife and I've never written about my wife before it's checked about our marriage and I'm very very guarded and protective about that. I never bring her into columns or things like that but with her blessing I was able to write about it and I said you know before we got married because I had a long courtship. You know That's that's a polite way of saying I couldn't make up my mind But I remember thinking well if we have kids you know a you know. Our men always worry about a slowdown my career. Am I going to have to other? People are GonNa pass me all that silly ambitious. This was before Maury but the other thing I said to myself was. I wonder if I'M GONNA lose my wife. You know like she'll become more interested in the kids and I'll be like Simpson's dad. You know the guy just takes out the trash and says stupid things you know and and the and the mother of the child or the are like the loving unit and you're kind of on the outside and Y- as it turned out I never had to worry about that because we didn't end up having children even though we try but years later when little Chica came into our life was a five year old girl and she came up here for an operation in everyone home and she began to be sleeping at the foot of our bed in her own little bed and I watched my wife with her. I realize what absolute Moron I had been and what at what how immature and stupid. That thought is because you. Don't lose your spouse when a child comes into your life you actually gain this whole other side of the things that you never even knew that they had a nurturing loving warm side. And you know I got to watch my wife like open up. And it looked like she'd been waiting her whole life to take care of this. Little girl stepped in whom it was all did you. Did you feel much in the way of regret or remorse? Like because you had or something just through an ignorance because you just didn't you didn't know you didn't know any better. You were just caught up. In the vanities that men get caught up in. It wasn't just that I don't want to say that you know I don't want to paint a picture that I was you know. No we're not getting married because I don't have. It was all happening. We just we met each other in our thirties. We you know we started late and we did try once we got married. We did try to have kids but by that point biology sort of taken over but yeah there we had CHICA. There were many times where I said boy if I could go back in time and do it all over again. I wouldn't have taken so long to get married and I wouldn't have had tried to have children in any which way now that's it turns out. Life is funny and a child list. I part of my life has been replaced with. I've got more children than I'm responsible for now. Ryan wasn't anybody I know. I know all fifty two of those kids all but six of them. I admitted which means I sat with whoever brought them in. Be It you an uncle or a friend or whoever was you know and had to decide on taking them and saying no to ten other children because that's our rate once you yes to one you say not ten others and you know. I don't take that lightly it's very solomonic. You know having to decide really in many cases who lives in dozen because the you know they're going back to a place where there's no food where diseases rampant where. There's no water where you could get. Cholera are or or Zeka or any malaria or any number of diseases very very easily and so I take every child that we bring in very very personally. I know the whole story. I you know I speak real now. As a result of being there and so I talked to them when they start with us when they're three years old two or three years old and they basically are being raised by our orphanage in the people there in me so I'm very involved with fifty two lives young lives all the way up to college. Age Kids all of that sounds overwhelming match. What you just described their sound. What do you mean it sounds totally overwhelming? Well everything everything in life if you throw yourself into. It can be overwhelming. And I'm sure your television shows radio shows you feel at the end of the day you're exhausted is overwhelming. You organize your day in the way that you need to now. I cannot do all the things that I used to do because I have to take care of these children you know so. I write a newspaper column but I don't write very many of them you know last year. I really am a part timer at best. I do a radio program but I get ten weeks off a year. You know which I said to them. I have to have this right. Can't do this anymore. And when I go to Haiti off the air you know because a main eighty every every month so you know things adjust and you make your adjustments for what's important in your life but if it's a joy and for me it is a joy to take care of these children to give them an opportunity and watch them flourish and we have. I mean Dan. It's I get to see Childhood in. It's real pure form. We have no computers. We have no Internet. We have no television. We have no radio. We have no headphones on kids heads or anything. There's no Pda'S NO A game. Boys were or whatever they're playing nowadays so the kids have no influenced from the media or TV shows or anything so you see children you realize that an eleven year old boy if you were to come down there with me and I walked in and they said this is my friend. Danny's he's a good guy you know what the boys would come up to you and one of them would take your arm and put your arm around them. He might be ten or eleven years old and realize realize that would never happen here because they've seen too many shows about how you're not supposed to do that at a certain age our your but they don't know so they're just affectionate and you know they come running whenever anybody walks in and they want to get to know them they have a million questions. I want them a picked up a thing at a toy store that that I'm always looking for little toys that I can get my bag and it was these little beads and it said when you put the beads into the water. They'll grow to be like ball. Small Ball size set. This is great because it's small. I can carry down. That will go so I bring him down. They all gather around and got the younger kids. I said all right. What's this magic? And I put beads in the water and nothing happens and the watching and two minutes four minutes five minutes ten minutes. Nothing happened so I. I'm sorry I didn't let me go back and look so I get the thing and I look on read it in. It says may take three to four hours I go. Why didn't I read this? Oh God so I said I'm sorry. Just forget it. You know. We'll come back later so I went out and did you know I stopped by all the business I have to do on the other side of the orphan and like three or four hours later a couple of the kids come running mister Mr Miss come come Kucuk. I said what the balls are coming in. They sat there the whole time. They never left. They just sat and watched these little things in the water until they blossom for three or four hours that kind of patients that kind of timing that kind of lifestyle we don't see here and so I'm totally blessed to have an opportunity to witness that and to revel in it You know and I do my best to try not to mess it up and so even though we have over the years we've put more and more money into it. We have better facilities in trying to help people help us. But we don't spend it on Internet access and you know and everybody gets a ipad or anything. That's that's not necessary. You know we spend it on schoolteachers in booed and and as a result we got some really pure amazing kids. I really appreciate catching up with you if people want to help you. That are listening to this if they want to help with some of these things because they feel moved by what it is that you're talking about how can they do so very simple. It's half eighth. Haiti Dot Org is the web site. Have Faith Haiti Dot Org? If they forget that that can always be my name. Dot Com Mitch ALBOM DOT COM and. There's a section on there for the charities that we operate in. They can go to that but we we welcome it in any kind of help. It takes a lot to run orphanage for fifty two kids and we need a lot especially now with the corona virus down. There we're on lockdown and it's breaking my heart because you know they have A. They have a a band so I can't lie in and I'm on the skype with them every day. And you know when it rips into Haiti. It'll go like wildfire because there is no protection there and you know you can't tell people to stay inside and you can't tell them to put their food in the fridge. They don't have refrigerators you know. They don't have freezers that everybody has to go outside everyday to get food and so it Wa- and there's the access to healthcare. I think I read. A statistic is one doctor for every three thousand people so You're talking about you know or one nurse even so it's GonNa really devastate that country when it takes hold a bit and I'm praying that our kids you know we've got ourselves locked down but we're GONNA we're GonNa need all the help we can get so people wanna go to that half eighty dot org and make any kind of donation we'd love. Mitch thank you. Say It's sincerely it's heartfelt. You have been an inspiration in every way because professionally. You were something to behold. But what you're doing. Now is a somehow more sizable than that. Which is a bit flabbergasting because many people would argue that. You're the best sports writer. There's been well I. I don't know about any of that. Dan but I I do know I appreciate talking to you and I really appreciate your giving me an opportunity to to a talk about our archives down there and she because the you know the world is full of a Lotta forgotten children and we don't have to all do massive things. Verb just does a little thing you know and the next person does a little thing. Next person does little thing it adds up. And we're living that now obviously and I've been aware of that for some time and so I appreciate the form to To share it. And it's good to see you in likewise will do this again soon. I hope we do this again soon. Good talking to you Mich. I'd stay safe down there right. That'll do it for us here on South Beach sessions this week. Thanks again to Mitch. 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Mitch Albom

10 Things That Scare Me

04:29 min | 1 year ago

Mitch Albom

"Approach. Listener's support W N Y C studios. Two three four five six seven got it. Okay. Number one getting clocked in the face. Number two, not being able to create anymore. Number three, losing the ability to play the piano. Number four. Forgetting the words in the middle of singing a song to a really big crowd. I've performed in front of a lot of different size crowds and rooms and there've been a few times we're about to come to the end of the line. And I'm like come on brame come on brain, you know, seeing along with something come on rank up. Okay, there it is. And I find it. But I just have this crazy fear of stopping in the middle of a song. Oh. You could go. That. Number five. I am scared of any horror movie. Number six. I'm scared terrified. I'm not being able to defend somebody. I love if they're endanger. One of the kids that I was raising when she was five years old developed a brain tumor, and we bought her to American basically adopted her and and she lived with us for the next two years, and I have never felt more of a failure or weaker. And then when she was in the hospital or towards the end when she was dying at home in in in a little bed, right next hours. I blew through it now. And I hope I'm never in that situation again. Number seven, the health of the kids that I'm raising at the orphanage in Haiti. Number eight suffering a really bad sports injury. Number nine losing my value system. You go out into the world and your value system gets tested because you don't have your parents walking around behind you saying, no don't do that. Number ten. That there's really nothing after this life when you die. My name is Mitch Albom. And these are ten things that scary. The ten things team includes Amy Pearl Daniel, Matt Sarah, sampack, Emily, teen polish human Joanna solitaire off a Melissa -chusetts music and sound design by Isaac Jones. You know, it scares me. That one I'm hugging. Someone just to be supportive. But I don't really want hug them that they can tell. What are you? Scared of tell us at ten things podcasts dot org.

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Mitch Albom on Life, Death, and Morrie

Kickass News

53:37 min | 2 years ago

Mitch Albom on Life, Death, and Morrie

"This is kick ass news. I'm Ben Mathis. With all the stresses of life. It can be easy to lose perspective on what really matters. But Heineken believes that life is about being with friends and opening yourself into experiences because when you live spontaneously and embrace the unexpected, it's a chance to create new stories and connections. You just have to open it. So enjoy a refreshingly cold full-bodied Heineken lager today with its deep golden color light, fruity aroma, mild bitter, taste, and a crisp clean finish. Cheers. And now enjoy the podcast. Hi, I'm Ben Mathis. Welcome to kick ass news in the mid nineties. My guest today was already a well known award winning sports writer and a frequent guest on ESPN the result of his singular focus on his career often to the exclusion of his personal relationships, family and everything else. But all that changed when he decided to reconnect with his old college professor, Maury Schwartz, Schwartz was suffering a slow, painful death, his body ravaged by a LS. But in his final months, he took it upon himself to share some hard earned wisdom with his former student about life family and the things that truly matter. Mitch Albom. Took those conversations with his mentor and put them into a little book called Tuesday's with Mori Tuesdays with Maury, would go onto become the all time bestselling memoir and launch a new chapter in mitch's life as the inspirational writer behind six number one bestsellers. That have sold over thirty five million copies around the world. But more importantly, his time with Maury, inspired him to radically change his life, prioritizing his loved ones over his work, forming deeper relationships with those, he cares about giving back through his various charities and inspiring others through his meaningful and often spiritual novels that address the most important subjects in life such as loss, purpose, forgiveness, and family. Now, his latest book is a follow up to his number one bestseller, the five people you meet in heaven titled the next person you meet in heaven. It tells the story of a young woman whose life is cut tragically short the morning after her wedding today. Mitch Albom joins me on the podcast to talk about how losing his adopted daughter to cancer, inspired this latest work. What the book has to say about mistakes and forgiveness and how his favorite uncle inspired one of his most beloved characters who makes a return in the next. Listen, you meet in heaven. He reveals how difficult it was to get Tuesdays with Moore, published some of the lessons from Morrie Schwartz that have come to mean more to him twenty years later and what Maury who preached don't buy into the culture would think about our social media, obsessed society plus how Mitch came to care for an entire orphanage. In Haiti, the band he formed with Stephen King and other famous writers and the five people Mitch would like to meet in heaven, coming up with bestselling author and all around good guy, Mitch Albom. In just a moment. Mitch Albom is the best selling author screenwriter playwright and nationally syndicated columnists the author of six consecutive number one, New York Times bestsellers, including Tuesdays with Maury, the best selling memoir of all time. His books have collectively sold more than thirty five million copies in forty two languages. Now he's written a follow up to two thousand three bestseller. The five people you meet in heaven. It's called the next person you meet in heaven. Mitch Albom. Welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me. Well, I really enjoyed the book, although I have to admit that I didn't quite finish it and I'm all the more ashamed of that because you know, it's not exactly like homework your books, relatively short and quite pleasurable. But I think I probably did you favor because I am notorious for spoilers. I always give away the ending to guess movie or whatever book they're promoting or reveal the secret twist. In the season finale of TV show. So I think that it's a good thing a little bit of probably does. This does have one of those endings that hopefully you don't see coming, so I'm not going to ruin it for you either. Okay. Well, I'm looking forward to finishing it now. You didn't start out wanting to be a writer. Right? Didn't want to be a musician. Yes, not only want it to be. I was, yeah. How for how many years where you doing the music? Well, I played music all through high school and college. I plan on being musician after college, so I helped pay for my tuition as a as a working musician while in college. I never wrote anything in college. I never wrote for my college newspaper or anything like that. The typical routines that journalists in those we'll tell you about, and then I went over to Europe and I lived there for a little while. I was a piano player in a singer on the island of Crete for short period of time. Believe Antic is that really crazy was to leave it and and came. Back and then it was in New York. Did the whole starving musician playing coffee houses in rock clubs? And you know, Monday night showcases and things like that and producing songs. This was in the early eighties and eventually I just kinda realized that I loved music. I was passionate about music. I still am, but sometimes you know, you're advocation and your vocation shouldn't necessarily be the same thing. Yeah, and I was starting to lose my love for music because of the business of music. And so I kinda shifted over to something that I said, well, I know I want to do something creative. I'm not interested in an office job or or any kind of, you know thing where you have to be behind a desk. And I just found that I've on tiered local newspaper, and I found that I had some aptitude and writing found that was very much like music to me anyhow, and I've been in and ever since. Now. Do you still play? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But for fun, you know. I. I play with a band called the rock bottom. Remainders is definitely for fun. Stephen King and Dave Barry, Amy tan, and Scott to row and relief Pearson and many, many other authors we've known each other play together for, gosh, twenty five years, maybe more and we play once a year. We go out for charity, and we raise moreover, literacy, and we're, we're terrible ban for the most part, but a handful of us, you know, used to actually be musician. All authors. What is Stephen King play guitar. Yeah, his, he has a spider fretted guitar and Stevens. Not a natural, born Qatar players. He's learned, but periodically, you know, we don't know. Accord will just point to it and they'll say, oh, that's biter. Oh, that's okay. Got it. Now you're an interesting case because so many people know you from Tuesdays with Morrie and your other books like the five people you meet in heaven. But prior to that and even still today, I mean you had this amazing career as I think one of the most award winning sports writers, you won like thirteen Associated Press sports editors awards, and all kinds of other awards. You're in the the national sports media hall of fame. So you were already pretty well known as a sports writer winning Tuesday's with Maurienne this whole other opportunity came along. Yeah. Well, I think in some ways that's why people who have read my work or who've. Who've said they have enjoyed it do so because you know, I didn't set out to be some kind of self help writer. I don't think of myself as one today. I didn't set out to be some kind of spiritual writer, inspirational writer, you know. But I, I have to say that that's where my a lot of my interests now lie. But you know, I was forged in writing and sports writing, still love sports. But I think a lot of people they look at me as kind of an unlikely source for this type of book. You know, the five people have the next person you meet in heaven, Tuesdays with Maury, that's coming from a sports writer. And I heard that when I was writing them. Sure. I mean Tuesday's, Maury in heard you say in the introduction that it's the most successful memoir of all time and always laugh because I remember trying to get that book published and nobody wanted it. And one of the things that they said to me and I was only trying to pay my old professors, medical bills. I mean that wasn't supposed to be any kind of. Book. I was just trying to get enough money to cover his bills and one publisher after another said, no boring depressing beside your sports writer who wants to read a sports writers take on what's meaningful in life. I, I mean, I heard that all the time, so I always laugh at it now because you know now it became what it did. And I think that whole thing about well have had another life. I still have another life. I don't walk around in shroud. I'm not here to sell you on religion. I'm just a person who was very blessed to at right at the height of his sort of young career arc and my mid thirties. I had a real life changing experience. I spent, you know about the better part of six month every Tuesday with an old dying professor who really got to me and open my eyes about what's important life. One is in this path that I was on of gogo and earner and chief achieve. And then as a result, I wrote a book to pay medical bills. The book became this big thing. And now the book has kind of taken me. Yeah, where it wanted to go and I don't really have control of my life that way. Did you ever envision yourself writing things other than sports writing, maybe writing a novel. I thought maybe one day. Well, I wrote, I wrote a book about Voshan Boeckler was a bestseller on the New York Times. I wrote a book called fab five when she was also a bestseller. And so I thought, well, okay, I guess this is what I'll do. You know, I'll write sports all comment on sports. I was on ESPN still do things with the SPN and it was on radio when I thought just be immersed in the sports world. Maybe one day already sports novel. I don't know. So when I wrote Tuesdays with Morrie it was just a detour off of the highway and then coming back. And I, I remember distinctly saying to my literary agent when they printed it, they printed twenty thousand copies total total and the whole big. Border is not a lot of copies of a book considering how big the country is math. It's about four hundred copies of state or something like that. So I remember saying to him, hey, do you think that this is going to hurt my sports writing? And he said, what do you mean? I said, well, you know, it's kind of a sentimental soft book. It's emotional. It's open, you know, it's, it's inspirational. You think like I'm gonna walk into locker rooms. Now, athletes are going to read that book. You were crying at the baby, not macho in the traditional, not at all. And remember he laughed. He said, I wouldn't worry about it. Nobody's going to read it and that was my literary agent. So that's what I thought. I thought I'd just would return to that life. But as I said, do a couple of minutes ago, it took me over and it has led me to a far richer life and far more. I think significant one in exploring some of these other themes and getting a chance to do in a lot of charities and things like that. The things that I never would have done if I had. Hadn't kinda gotten off the road Tuesdays with Morrie. I wanna talk about the impetus for you getting reacquainted with your former college professor, Maury, Schwartz, he'd gave an interview to Ted Koppel on ABC Nightline where you like, what is coach Maury doing on Nightline. How did that happen? Well, he and I had been extremely close in in college. I mean, extremely close. I took every class that he offered. I majored in sociology really just because of him. And you know, we walk around campus together. We'd have lunch together. You know, I gave him a briefcase when I graduated. He started to cry. Gave me big hug. You said, you know, you're a good ones, Mitch promised meals in touch. And I said, I will promise. And I said, I will, he said, say innocence. Say it innocent. Okay, I promise. I'll say he was kind of like your Mr. chips. Your Holland? Yes, exactly. And then I broke that promise for sixteen straight years. 'cause I was so ambitious and so interested in pursuing my own thing. And you know, I musician and then as a writer, and I just forgot about him. I mean, I knew we was there, but I just figured you'd probably always be there. And then one night as you point out sixteen years later, I happen to be flipping the TV channels and there he was. Ted Koppel about what it was like to die from Gehrig's disease. I saw his face. I saw his withered white-haired version of himself and something compelled me to call him up, which I thought would be a one time phone call. And then by the time I finished up phone call, he had convinced me to come see him. So I went to go see him what I thought would be a one time visit too much, hey, in his own way. I mean not in a a an overt way like where have you been nothing like that? Just, you know, it's good to see you again, and you know how have you been a never asked me anything about how much money earned. He couldn't care less that I was on ESPN or sports or and he was asking me things like. Are you happy with your life? Have you found someone to share your life with? Are you involved in your community and things like this and began to go back the following Tuesday, the following them what turned out to be all the Tuesdays that he had left in his life. Selfishly, I guess to get the answer to the questions, you know, what did he clearly know now that he was dying and it was no question that he was dying that put life in perspective and wouldn't it be great to know that when you were young enough and healthy enough to do something about wonder, are there lessons that may not have meant as much to you when you were that age? But now what? Twenty one twenty years later. Maybe they make more sense to your. The resonated up to really interesting and good question because people always ask me to his more, you know, what was your favorite Tuesday? What was it? But they don't say, well, it's been twenty years. Is there one now that resonates more like you've just asked me so? Yes. And now you're closer to his age than you were too close? Yeah. Yeah, there are several one has to do with forgiveness, and I don't think I really understood that lesson when I was younger because I hadn't had a lifetime hold grudges of about people with people or so I lived that long. And now I see how important that is having lost so many people important is to say, you're sorry over whatever it is that might be rubbing you the wrong way or keeping you apart. That was certainly one don't buy the culture if you don't like it, don't buy the culture. You know, I was so into the culture as I was in the midst of the culture. If you sports in your television, your and your writing a daily column, you know how much deeper in the culture, the American hysteria over sports. And now, of course, especially with today with everything that is. So, yeah, you know, you're so immersed you has to be like all in for something and you gotta get with movements. You gotta get. And what do you think that Mori would think about? You know, the social media, SAS reality TV narcissist Gulch today. I mean, this is nothing like what it was when you were talking with him in the nineties. I, what he just, he would say, throw out your devices to no question he was. He was a bit of an antidote standing, how, but you know, and he would say, you know he, he was saying, shut off your television sets that was back then and those those win. You turn on television. They didn't like you couldn't clap your hands and it went on. So I'm sure he would say, throw out your devices, stop talking to one another through what. Here's a story that would broken MAURICE heart, my nephew, teenage nephew. Few years ago went to a prom was I lived overseas, so he'd never know prom was. And when he got back, I said, how was it? And he said, well, it was okay, but everybody was kind of, you know, on their devices, you know, talking to people, I I, you know, I said, well, yeah, that's kind of how we do it over here. But he's on their devices probably telling their friends back. Home, you know what look at what's going on. He says, no, they were talking to one another on. They're the same able. We're texting each other saying, you know, look at this look at this outfit that would've broken MAURICE heart because more it was so much about being present, present looking you in the eye. And of course, when he had LSU, no could only look one way his head couldn't turn. You can't turn. You can't move a muscle. So that would have really broken his heart. And and I remember that very much don't buy the culture if you're not if you don't think it's right, and I don't think that that's right. And I am not a big texter or tweeter, or I have all those things as any author today, we'll have some and you're supposed to have some kind of presence on it, but it's much more begrudging professional obligation than what need to be heard all the time. Well, you're much younger, so. Good for you for having that because you're resisting bigger generational pull than I am. Well, I think also it's part of it's laziness. I don't admire the people who feel that they have to feed that beast all day long every day on the weekend. They have to, you know, put up photos of their vacation and the personal time, your meals, whoever is out there listening. That's not me that was him. So that one. And lastly, the family, you know, I have been been late in coming to family of my own in terms of children, my wife and I got married fairly late and I deleted probably having children little too long because I was too interested in my professional development by the time we were, you know, really on the same page, it wasn't. We weren't able to make it happen, but I have gotten involved over the last decade with in, hey. Eighty just just kind of by accident ended up taking over an orphanage. Yeah, in one of those moments where I don't know what I was thinking, but it was like, how hard could it be? I'll just run and you know, I'm there every month and I have forty seven children that I really consider my my kids. That's amazing. And you know, we're raising them two of them now are here in college for the oldest to the youngest, one is three and a half. And so I have learned what he said that there is no security. There is no foundation of love like the family, and I think those words than mean to me at thirty seven team, you know, and you got a big family, a big family. Yeah, that's incredible. Wh when you took that on, was that like I mean, you didn't know anything assuming about raining. I just thought, you know, I'd run charities and well, charity orphanage, and you'll learn very, very quickly. Like I remember the first time. I was down there after sort of agreeing. Okay. I'll take it over and people wondering why. How do you take over and orphan into the man who had started? It was in his mid eighties. He didn't have any money. He wasn't in particularly good. Healthy was an American and he just, he asked me to, you know, and, and I said, well, I could do it and he said, how Louisa praise Jesus, here you go and that was it. So suddenly I was there and I remember walking around through the door, the bedrooms for the kids and I'm going, what is that? Smell vise it also. So in here and the nannies were laughing and Haitian, they were whispering in Creole, and I said, why? Why? And p p p how Bom, which means they, they pee the bed. Don't you understand that the kids pee the bed, and I had to learn that I had gotten all new mattresses like an idiot and didn't protect the matches. Of course, once ago he's in bed, but the matches kinda ruined. And so you know, that was my first dumb stupid American lesson, you know, and although America. Or otherwise could piece of Betty piece bet. So now we use a lot of air mattresses for all new kids, and we have these mattress protectors, and you know, I've learned my lesson the hard way everything from that to stairs or slippery two kinds of sandals. The kids have onto a knock. You lay Sion's to to funnel creams to, you know, can can't touch this. He's going to be sick like that, or you know how you group them together to the buddy system when we take them out on buses all that kind of stuff. Yeah, you learn by experience. I'm there every month so you know three or four days every month. I'm getting this harsh education and I'm fairly good at like corralling forty, seven kids come on. Let's all go do something, but it's a learned experience for sure. Has this orphanage influence to writing? Yeah, most definitely. Especially with this new book, the next person you meet and have and. If you read it all the way through, you'll see I will there. The main character Anne who is was the little girl for those people who read the five people you meet and have him remember that. And there was made into a movie premise of that is there's an old amusement park worker eighty three year. Old guy named Eddy who thinks his life doesn't matter. He's a nobody's and nothing just waiting to die and he on his eighty. Third birthday does die trying to save a little eight year old girl from an accident. Parka, one of these tower drops in the cart. Snaps off Rops plummets to earth. He sees this little girls on the base accidentally. She crawled onto the base and he goes to push out of the way he feels her two little hands in his hands. And then everything goes black and he dies in turns out he's crushed by this car, he goes to heaven. He meets five people from his life, which is he finds out his the first stage of heaven for everybody. We meet five people from our live, but somewhere can I stop you there? Why are there five? I actua. Read the book, but I'm trying to remember if this gets explained in. Oh, it does. Okay. People have gone to the penta something. No, I can tell you. Honestly, I have my hand down when I I looked at my five fingers. I said five. That's a good number. And that was basically it could have been. But that's kind of long three people. You mean haven't doesn't give, you know k. you must get all kinds of fan theories and can do. Yeah, there's a whole. If you go on the internet as a whole, there's there's a lot of fan fan fiction where people have rewritten new characters that Eddie met and having really of them. Oh yeah, I can't keep up. But yes, there's theories, but that's the only theory truth eerie. Okay. So anyhow, he meets these five people and he finds out by the end of his life that his life was actually very significant. And it had touched all kinds of people ways because the five people you meet are not necessarily people, you know, some of them could be someone you had a five second encounter with, you know, you veered your car, they veered, you've eared, you missed hitting them. They missed and they went on to live or somebody died or something like that. So this book the next person you meet and have in picks up years later when Anne the little girl he saved is now grown and she does not remember the incident because it was traumatic and she had actually, she lost her hand in the incident. They had surgically repair and she just blacked out everything. She remembered going to the park in the morning. And that was it. And then she was home. Her mother who's distraught an angry at herself for letting her child run loose like that moves her away very quickly from the scene of where it took place going across the country, they changed their names and so she really has no connection to what happened to her. She just has this feeling that something went wrong when she was a an life has never been the same. And she's just been making mistake after mistake. After mistake from that point forward, one of the mistakes she makes is she gets pregnant when she doesn't mean to write out of right out of school, and she has the baby and the baby dies after a couple of days. And so she feels she made a mistake and getting pregnant. And now she made mistakes. You can't even be a mother, you know, she didn't. She doesn't even deserve to be in the mothers club. The baby lived, you know, three or four days. All of that stuff came from experience with children in Haiti, and the feeling that you have about protect. Eating them and if you can protect them. And of course I had one little one who who also died, you know that I tried to protect and I remember, you know, when she did die of brain tumor feeling like a failure. And even though everybody said, you know, it wasn't your fault. You don't create a brain tumor all that. They're still part of you that I didn't protect this child failure. I translated a lot of that into this book. Yeah, because the book follows a young woman whose life has also cut short. Was there a lot of overlap there in terms of the timing of it when she passed away where you still writing this book. Chica our little girl passed away. Just I had the kind of concept in my head or hasn't sat down to write anything truth be told. I wanted to write a book about Chica. I really wanted to write a all these emotions were so fill on fiction book, nonfiction. Yeah, I just want to write what happened and you know a lot of people around me said, you're not ready to do that yet. You know your little raw, a little emotional, maybe need the weight and just get some perspective on it. And I said, why don't know what to do with all this emotion though, you know, and I kind of deviated into this because heaven when you lose somebody having a lot on your mind is not an accident that I wrote the five people you meet in heaven after Maury died, you know, that was the next book the next book. And you start to think about k. while them where they go and having spent all this time with Sheikha. I mean every single day for. Two years. She didn't go off to school. She didn't do anything with us as we try to help her save her life. You do kinda wonder, where is she now and what should be saying? I am actually writing the book about she could now or you'll. So yes. 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Well, to be honest, I mean, there weren't many books besides the five people. You mean having that lent themselves naturally to a sequel, you know, I, I joke around, I don't get the live in the Harry Potter world or the Jack mature world or wherever you can say, okay, what are we going to have our people do next that that would be a lot of fun for me. I, you know, I'd love to do that, but I just haven't all my book sort of started and ended in many cases, there's a somebody dies or something. So I can't really just do it again. And this one was the only one that I sort of left the door open because the five people you meet in heaven is the first stage of heaven, but had a lot of people start asking me. So what the second stage of having because everybody wants as if I know I said, do you do know that? I'm not sure that this is the first stage, right? And so you know there was Dante right. Number of levels? No, I haven't even thought past the first one to be honest. But you know, an Eddie was a favorite character of mine. And so I thought, well, if there is a book to do a sequel to whatever happened to Anne when she grew up and I was fascinated by the idea of and I guess is tied in a little bit with cheek and all that. But how is your life different if you are saved from death, you know, like, are you attorney grateful? Do you live life totally differently? Or do you just kind of go on like that was a little bump in the road and everyone else's making such a fuss to me. You're live one day in your live the next day. So do you do you just kind of get us transform you? Yeah. And that's what I wanted to kind of explore, and that's turned out in any case, it did transform it, but in a way that that's why made her not able to remember it. Because since subliminally she kind of knows that something she was about to die and she didn't, but she doesn't know why. And she doesn't remember how, how does that play on her? In her case, it made her feel like guilty like she had done something wrong because of course, as she finds out in having she gets to meet Eddie in heaven. That's the the kind of thing that everybody waits for in the book. Okay. So when are they going to? What are they going to each other? And he gets to explain to her? No, here's why I'm here. I'm here because of you and everything that she's felt in her life up to that point that guilt the mistakes. Oh, now I understand. You know, I you died because of me and I'm at fault and the seems to confirm her worst fears which Jesus fault for everything bad to happen where life and he says to her, no, you don't understand. I needed to save you because of something that I did in my life. And we find out if you read the first book, you know that when he was in World War Two, he killed a little girl in unbeknownst to him and his whole life. He ended up working at an amusement. Park taking care of children, and that was sort of heaven. God's way of kind of saying, okay, you took a life, you need to protect lives here and he died protecting a young life and that kind of that was his penance that was his salvation for what he had done. So she's saying, no, I ruined everything. And he said, no, you didn't ruin. You allowed me to reach my destiny. This is how we all kind of fit together. One person's wrongs can lead to somebody else's rights and that's kind of you know, crux of the book, and that's how I feel about how we interact with each other. Yeah, Eddie is such a great character. I'm so happy to see him revived in this next iteration. Eddie was I think you mentioned a World War Two vet who worked at this amusement park. Never thought he amounted very much or as life had any meaning. I think I read at some point that this was based on your ankle right about him. So I had an ankle Eddie. He looked like sounded like acted like the character in a book. Talk like this used to web Beata t shirts, tuck them in during dinnertime. So it was form the wear and real muscular guys that you could like when we were kids, we jumped one kid would jump on. One arm won't jump on the other. He would lift us like like weights. He fought in World War Two. He once said to me, I would say, did you kill anybody in World War Two new station over in the Philippines. He was thick of a lot of it. And he said, I don't know, I might have, and I always thought what a terrible thing. No firing in the dark. He was shooting at night. You know what? How did they do? You know. So he always thought he was a nobody always said. I never been nowhere that they didn't ship me with a rifle. That was his travel consisted of being sent off to war and I love them. I just, you know, he's like Popeye as an ankle, but I could never get him to, you know, it's a feel worthwhile. And so I kinda wrote that first book for him and for people like him who just don't feel that they matter. And so many people out through just feel my life is insignificant, and it's just no such thing as nobody or insignificant. And then with with Anne, she thinks her whole life as a mistake. And again, I try to prove when they meet together. There's no such thing as a mistake. Either, you know, everything that you do wrong will lead you to something hopefully how to do right may lead to more wrong, but it does some. It doesn't just sit there alone. It's a, it's an atom crashing against another atom and something happens as reaction. There's a reaction. Yeah. Now, did it feel like strangely full circle moment to go within the span of twenty something years from being with an old man at the end of his life to bring a child to America being there at the end of a child dying at such a young age well, and then writing about bowl. I did think about that because she a little girl from Haiti at the end. She was in a bed. She always slept on our bedroom. You know, the kids are used to be sleeping with twelve and fourteen other kids. So there's no such thing as having their own room that scary, right? So she slept in our bedroom when she was able to walk and move about. And when she lost her ambulatory abilities, I would have to carry from place to place and she slept in a little bed alongside ours, and we would sit alongside her for long times stretching. Talk to her while she could still talk. And I did think, boy, you know, twenty years ago and it was it was twenty years later to the to the to the year that that Chica came to us was twenty years after I saw more and I said twenty years later, I'm now sitting alongside another bed learning as well. But I'm learning from a seven year old instead of seventy eight year old. I can't say honestly that that gave me comfort. I wished I hadn't. I observed it like this is kind of strange, but I wish that I had been the one who was lying in the bed and she was a seven-year-old learning from me. That's the natural order should remember. My mother wants say to me, I think the first time I ever saw somebody somebody we knew their child or their son or daughter died. And I noticed how everybody was so. So upset different than any funeral that I had seen. I was probably teenager. I said, why is why is this so bad? And my mother said, when you go out of order. There's no explaining, you know, you can except if your mother grandparents die, it's sad breaks your heart, but it's make some kind of sense when you go out of order and you say, no, you skip death, skips a generation and goes the other. There's no, there's no rectifying it in your mind. You ready roll it over again. And again, all those things that you can say when an older person, they had a good life. They lived a long time. You know, it was time at least they had their family around. They got to see their children grow, but when we had to bury Chica and and and I had to think and my wife had to think that she'll never get married and she'll never have children shall never go to high school and she'll never there isn't any, you know? So it's a different kind of wish I didn't have that was the my guess where that, yeah. And yet, I think it's in this new book that you say there's no such thing as too soon because we don't know the grand plan. We don't know. What's to Sern what's to or what? That's who. Time to go on the no one has picked up on that yet universe person. You know, sometimes you just put lines in that are just for you and they're not. They're not a trick you're not trying to, you know, see for reader can guests this. You just wrote it from your heart and you and you say, well, it plays a part in the book, but that really is how I feel. And it's it's on the first page and or second page. And it says something along the lines of, you know, any died when she just three months shy of thirty first birthday, you might say that that's too young for life to end, but what is too young for life? And then I point out that you know when she was eight, her life was saved by an old man. So perhaps she was already older than she was meant to be right, and that all comes from watching the seven year old, you know, pass away and what is too young for life. She had she great, a great seven years. I know that except for the end. And there are four year old to go. There are three into especially with this disease that she had the IP where was hearing stories about very young children. So what's too young for life? What's too old for life? I don't know. Yeah, I suppose maybe it's pointless trying to make sense of it, right? Yeah. At least in this life or where we are right now, that's why I write novels about heaven, make sense of it. Yeah. I mean, death and the afterlife or frequent themes in your books. Do you think about death a lot when you're not writing? No, you know the truth is that I don't. I don't really write about death. I'm not really fascinated with death. I, I like death as a mirror to life and and sometimes I bristle. When you know, someone will try to quickly say, oh, we all your books about dying death. And I said, well, not really. I mean books about serial killers about death, and they have page after page of gruesome beheadings, and pulling hearts out through the chest, and they describe all kinds of ways. Mine, usually one person who dies usually takes a half a page and the whole rest of the book is some some 'bout life or about what was learned through that the catalyst. That's right. But I find the most people don't want to kind of examine the questions that I'm interested in examining unless they really realize it to time is running out into no. Then all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute. Maybe I do need to think about this because I I could die too. So it's like. They always say, you know what? On their deathbeds said, I wish I had worked a couple days longer, but yet while we're healthy, we keep working right? There's something that happens and I learned that from more there's something that happens when you are looking death in the eye that puts everything into perspective and it changes all of viewpoints. So I use death in all of my books. All my novels to try to say, okay, I got your attention. Now think about this, you know, now that you accept that we're all going to meet the same end. Now does this really mad at the time matter to book about time the time keepers, faith matter about faith called have a little faith, you know, does does being able to talk with some. I wrote a book the first phone call from heaven about people who actually could make phone calls thought they were getting phone calls from the deceased. And how does that change? If you could actually still have someone in your life communicating with you thought you'd lost forever. And that's kind of relevant because you know, scientists say that we're getting fairly close to the point where we may be able to download. Her upload our conscious computer. Some sort of fact simile of great grandpa. Whatev-. Yeah, yeah, you can talk with and do you want to do that. You know, how does that interfere with the grieving process and moving on? That's an excellent question. You also those superman movies when we were kids where he goes to the solitude pulls up Marlon Brando and we'd go and how how's Marlon Brando talk into him now when he's dead or ready. But yet he's talking to him in the present tense. He recorded every possible sentence that he would after respond to him and then they're playing house at work fascinated by that. Yeah. And is that a good thing? I don't think so. I think that there's a reason that I wrote this in the book the timekeeper about time. The reason that life is limited is to make every day precious. You know, if we really did live forever as we are attempting, you could spend a hundred years as the and say, you know, I'll clean up after hundred years and I'll see what it's like to be a thief, and then I'll do this and you know, there'd be no consequence of your actions because she wouldn't be thinking I need to spend my time doing this because this is what's important. Nothing will be important. Everything could be done. It would be. Like, you know, you'd being delicatessen your whole life. You can eat everything anywhere all the time. So how you gonna appreciate food and I think it's that way about life. I think that's why it comes to an end to help us appreciate when it doesn't your books inspire and appeal to the better angels of our nature at a time when society seems to just be so divided. So insular and neighbors or becoming enemies just because of things like politics, which in the grand scheme of life is so petty. So small as so little real relevance to real life. Have you thought much about how we can dial down the anger and put politics perspective again and focus on the things that truly matter? Well, yes, I think about it all the time, and I think the answer is unlikely to occur. We need to unplug from the whole world and return a little bit more to our small. The world's. I don't think we were designed to live in everybody else's moment at the exact same moment all over the planet. I just don't think we're program to handle that much information, but we keep trying to do it. We keep trying to tweak to the whole world reached the whole world. Go viral, be heard everywhere, be the biggest, be the most. And and I think that's why we're short-circuiting. We remind me of machine that's run into hot, yes, we can process a lot of information. And yes, I'm sure some brain scientist will say that we have more capability than we realize, but you know, there's capability and then there's, and then there's human development slow bit like the space ratio and they were trying to, they knew eventually they could break the sound barrier, but they didn't just do it overnight. You know, over time they slowly each plane when a little faster and a little and we're trying to do it overnight. And I think it's why it's making everything's louder than it should be. Everything's. Angry that should be because we're not. We're dialed into too many voices too much stuff. We keep this whole notion of reporting on what the Twitter versus saying now is journalist by trade. You know that that that so anti-theft to me, it would have been like when I was covering a baseball game when I was younger, I go into the stands and find four people who say something and then right. This is how everybody's react. Yeah, it's like the event is what matters. Not what everybody saying about the event. Right, and and we live in a world where it's not an event unless people are saying something about that's backwards to me. And so I don't know that everyone so fascinated by now I predict I probably won't live a long noth- to see, but I predict that there will be a backlash to all of this and at some point in the future, not so far away, they'll be this whole movement away from, you know, I, I don't mean necessarily becoming hermits and living off the grid, but there will be a movement that will feel like living off the grid will have its its tentacles into us even more and people say, no, I found something better. It makes me feel better because I think humans are designed to deal like you and I are sitting in a room together. One on one talking. I'm not talking to ten million people who I can see. I may be, you may play this for ten million, but right now it's just me and you. And I think that that's how we are. Design, and I think that's how we can feel the actual emotions that were supposed to feel because what you can't feel with ten million people is empathy, which is a big part of this. By the way, you can't feel those human emotions. It's just a crowd, you know. And I think we're meant to experience empathy. I'm meant to look at your face and see if I see something you're is. That makes me say, what what's matter? You know, I remember my not the quote, my mother too often. She passed away in the last year. So I find myself thinking about a lot of things. He said, I could never teach your Email. I tried overdose of this great thing even look, I'll be able to not interested. No, nicer. Finally, you're smart, you know, you know, you know, one of these people can't handle well. What's with this? I'm not learning. I do Email. She says, if I start doing that, you'll stop calling me. Good. She was right, you know? So I had to keep calling their head to keep busy. And if I wanted to talk to her because she wants to hear my voice, she said, if I read an Email, I don't know if you're upset. I can't tell if I hear your voice. I'd say, hi, mom, what's wrong that. So I'm sure she wasn't a big texter then you know she, she, she passed away before the. Okay. So you know, I just think we're designed to be more human and more small spaced. And so my answer would be that, but I don't think it's going to this has been a real pleasure. Before we go, you probably get asked this all the time, but who do you think will be the first person that you meet in having a? Who do you want to be? The first person you meet in heaven. Zooming your wife is still alive. Well want think. Imagine these are different answers for many years. I would answer that question which I have. I have been asked by saying, I certainly want one of my. I got five people. I want them under my five people to be Maury if only for the fact that I would, you know, he never got to read a word of Tuesday's. That's right. He passed away before it hit the presses. And so of all the people who have read that book who go on and on about him and tell me what they think of him and how wise he was. He wasn't one of them. And so I would like to just ask him, you know, how do you think I did that I portray you? All right, that I, you know, was I honest and true to your message? You know, I hope I didn't embarrass you so so many questions that I would love to ask him and I used to say, you know, okay. Of all the big, you know. So many names out there in in recent. Just the last four years I lost. My mom lost my dad and I lost her little girl, and I can't now say that, you know, if you're gonna give me one, I wanted to be Maury. Wanted to be a combination of those three people. I especially want to hold our little girl. Gin. I held her to say to me when she couldn't walk anymore. She lost the ability to walk, and I had a carry her from place to place. And one time we were coloring which she adored doing and looked at my watch. I realize how late it was and I had to get downtown for something. And I said, oh my gosh, she, I gotta go. And she said, why said I have to work? And she said, Mr., Mitch, I have to play. And I said, I know she could, but this is my job and she put her crayon down and she said, no, it is. Your job is carrying me like that. And you know she was like that. But when I thought about it as well, of course, my job is carrying her, it's every all of our jobs to carry those who need us. And you know, more than any work, we have it. Why do we work most of us work to carry those who need us, you know, to to put food in their mouths and and help them, you know, and to have money for later on. Life when they need help and our parents when they help. So I did carry her much of her life. And when she passed away, which was at our house, I carried her from our house outside for the last time to the, you know the to the hearses that awaited there take her to the funeral home. And I remember that walk will always remember that walk and I will always remember holding there and, and I don't want that to be the last time I held her, you know, because you couldn't open is at that point and and and you know, make fun of me your sticker tongue out or whatever she was going to do on I imagined in heaven. I will get a chance to do that again. I certainly hope so. Mitch, usurping Lee make us think about the things that truly matter will once again, Mitch Albom. Latest book is the next person you meet in heaven. Mitch, it's been a real pleasure. Thank you. I really enjoyed. Thanks again to Mitch Albom. For joining me on the podcast or his book. 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Mitch Albom: ...what it would be like when your mentors have passed on and it's your turn to pass on wisdom to the next generation

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Mitch Albom: ...what it would be like when your mentors have passed on and it's your turn to pass on wisdom to the next generation

"Welcome to. Nobody told me I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan black. We are very excited to welcome. Bestselling author, journalist screenwriter, playwright broadcaster and musician. Mitch Albom to our show. Mitch's books have sold more than thirty six million copies. His book Tuesdays with Maury is the most successful memoir ever published and his first novel. The five people you meet in heaven is the most successful US hardcover first adult novel ever. And now Mitch has written a sequel to the five people you meet in heaven. It's called the next person you meet in heaven, Mitch, thanks so much for joining us today. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me on your program. Talk to us a little bit about the next person you meet in heaven. Well, the five people, you mean having public fifteen years ago, and the idea of that was there was an old man of who thought he didn't matter in life. He never did anything. You never went anywhere. He worked as a. Maintenance worker at an amusement park and on his eighty. Third birthday, he dies trying to save a little girl from a ride accident. Big cart falls, and it's crashing down and she's trapped under the platform. He pushes her out of the way she saved and he he's killed. He goes to having and he meets he finds out that the first days of heaven is that you meet five people who were in your life, some of whom you might have known some of whom you might not even remember. But all of them played some significant part in changing your life and your changing there's and by the end of his five people, he finds that this meaningless life that he thought he had led was actually extremely meaningful and had had affected all kinds of people in all kinds of ways. Not the least of which of course was the girl who he saved throughout the course of the book. He can't remember his last moment on earth and he can't remember 'cause everything went black. Did he save the girl or not? So the. Question that keeps getting asked over and over that I say, the girl that I growing only very end as he find out, well, this new book the next person. You mean having picks up a little more than fifteen years later with what happened to the little girl that he saved and it follows her as she is now in adult and she herself remembers going to the park and remember coming back from the park injured but can't ever remember what actually took place. You sort of blocked it out. So she has her own sort of memory thing on it. And then in this book she dies tragically when she's younger, goes to heaven and meets her five people. One of whom is Eddie from the first book who saved her and then luminated to her how his life was changed on account of her and hers on account of him. So it picks up, you know, the characters from the first book, but it's also a whole sort of different story with her at the center of these ink readers. Should I read the five people you meet in heaven before. Reading your new book, the next person you made in heaven. Well, I can tell you I've never written a sequel before, so that was like my number one question. Decided to write one is okay. How does this work? I wanted to go to like the Harry Potter people and the and the Jack Reacher people, and it was much. Do you have to tell about the other book before you get to this? Because I've never done it. All of my books have been sort of single single story. I think the trick is that you have to write a book that stands on its own. You can't assume that somebody will go read the other ones. So yes, you can read the next person. You mean have been without having read the five people have been and it'll make perfect sense, and you'll just think, wow, this is what an amazing idea and you go to heaven and you meet five people. I wonder if anyone else ever came up with that. And then one day you'll read the first book and you say, oh, this guy came up with fifteen years earlier. So yes, you can read the second one without it. If I had my druthers, they're both that short books. I mean, they're barely two hundred pages and and very small book. You could read both of them. And the time it takes to read, you know, like a couple of Tom Clancy chapters. So really if you wanted to revolt, them would probably work. I keep thinking in both of these books is how lives and losses intersect. Can you talk to us more about that? Well, yeah, I, you know, that's a big part. I think of of what we don't understand about value in life. You know, we're constantly measuring ourselves with the big thing that I get a big job promotion that I make a ton of money. You know what about who I married? Or you know how many kids I have or what my job is, and we forget that every little interaction that we have on or has some kind of a fact. So in the first book, for example, Eddie was a little boy and was playing baseball in in the street and ball went over his head. He ran out into the street, ran in front of a car, the car swerved missed him. He ran off to get the ball and never thought about it again. But the driver of the car happened to be person who is very weak and nervous and almost hitting this child since this driver of this car into a heart attack in the heart attack killed him, and and you never knew about it when he was a kid and and were found out about until he got heaven. Well, how many things do we have that happen with like us all the time? You know, the famous sliding doors thing, if you missed the if the doors close on you on the train and and you know you have a whole different life on account of it because instead of making that train, you meet somebody on the platform who changes your life and etc. Well, that happens all the time. So I don't think there are random acts. I don't think they're a little accidental. Things don't mean anything. I think it all kind of adds together and that's the great Mr. lives. We always wonder, well, what was it about? How did it make sense? So I always thought, well, if heaven really is a place where your desires and. Needs or finally met. One of those needs would be to explain what went on down here so to speak. And that was the explanation of how all these little things played together and the character Eddie is based off of your own uncle Eddie. And I was reading your uncle. Eddie told you your first story about the afterlife. What did he say? And how did that? How did that impact you not only impact in me became the framework for the book. So he was a salty World War, Two veteran just like Eddie in the book. He also felt he never mattered. Never did anything. Never went anywhere. And he used to tell the story every thanksgiving about this night that he was rushed to open heart surgery and the doctors put him on the operating table and somewhere in the middle of the operation, he felt his soul, I guess, rise out of his body and hover above the bed and look down on the whole peration. And he said he saw all of his dead relatives, all the people. In family and external family who had died before him. We're waiting at the edge of the operating table for him. And of course, as a kid, you say, you know what you do go in salty guy. That was said, what I do. I told them get the hell out of here. I'm not ready for any yet. You know, and fairly scared them right back to having because they disappeared. He floated back into his body and he lived for, you know, a number of years after that. But for me because he wasn't some distant psychic or something like that, he was relative, you know, I loved him, doored him. And if he said it had to be true. So I always believed and still do that. That's what happens when you die. You know that that there are people your loved ones or they're waiting for you. And so I took that idea and said, well, what if they're waiting? But what if it's not just your loved one? What if these people who you had five seconds with or a minute or a day or an hour and and you had this profound effect on them and they were waiting to sort of exp. Pain that to you, and that became the framework for both five people have. And now the next person you meeting and I love how in the new book in the next person you meet in heaven, how you don't just limit it to people any meter old dog Cleo, in human form in the new book, and I love how you acknowledged that animals have a soul. What's your decision to include an animal as a character? Well, I love animals myself, but I've had, you know, wonderful dogs myself who have been a big pie about my life and even more than me, I know a lot of people who, for whatever reason, maybe they didn't have children or they didn't get married or their kids are gone and moved away. But animals start to play a huge part in their lives and and they take such care with them and they take pictures around on their iphones and they show them everybody. And I said, well, you know, it can't be that these living creatures means so much was here on earth and yet when we got to have and it's just like they didn't exist. Yeah, it was just us, you know, down here. So she meets you're right Cleo and he doesn't know it's her first. It's a, it's an old woman because dog years you know, they all and and eventually is this woman says, I am. I'm Cleo, you know, and she says, you can't be my dog. We're communicating, and she says, well, didn't we communicate when we were on earth together and and and and all these things that she realizes well, yeah, it's not so unusual to be meeting some creature that meant so much to you and your life. And at one point point out, she says, also, is in heaven, go through this and and he says to her wait a minute. So you're saying animals have souls and clear looks at her. You know, almost insulted insists will why wouldn't they? And really why wouldn't they? You know why wire we're all you believe we're all God's creatures in some way. Whatever. Then why are we so special that we got the souls and they don't so. So I thought that that was different and I'm glad that you noted that I'll I, I'm kinda braced for how people are going to take that or not. I, you know, you don't know until the book comes out, they're going to go, come on. It's a dog, you know, or they're going to say, oh yeah, that's great. I would love to meet my dog in heaven. So I, it was really special and I just have a feeling that people are gonna really relate to that. That's how I hope. I hope I get my animals. They're bloody of them. What is your goal when you write a book? What do you want the reader to take away from it? Think to evaluate their own life and and maybe just examined how precious the small things are and and how he relationships that we have and to not. You know, my first book was Tuesdays with Morrie. It was a non fiction book in that book. My old professor who was dying from LS sat with me and tried to teach me even though as in my thirties would think I might have known some of this stuff, but I was slow learner. He tried to teach me what mattered and what didn't end, of course, that was very seminal experience for me. I wrote a book to pay his medical bills. It wasn't supposed to be a big book, but it became one and it really changed my life. And I've always looked back to the lessons that he tried to teach me then hopefully I learned at least some of them and and. See if I can incorporate them in the books that I write. Because at one point he said to me, you know, what? What do you do for your community? What do you do for other people? And I said, what do you mean? Charities and things are. Yeah. And I said, I write checks and he said, well, anybody can write a check. You have been given voice and voice reaches a lot of people and you need to use that voice for more than just aggrandizing yourself. And that really stuck with me. And I tried to do that in writing Tuesdays with Maury, which was just there to pay his medical bills. I mean, that was the whole purpose of that book. And then when I had the opportunity when I was given the opportunity to write another book and write a novel, I still had the same kind of thing like, all right, I wanna write a bright a thriller. Not that there's anything wrong with thrillers or anything like that. It's like, I felt like I. Owed I owed Maury my success in terms of being asked to write a novel, I should at least honor his memory requested use my voice for something more than just, you know, making myself successful. And so I tried to think of teams that matter to people and that if you read a book about them and novel about them, you you examine things or maybe think about things differently, which is what more he made me do. And in the case of the five people have an and the next person you meet and heaven, it's that the the things that we think are are bringing us down in life like Eddie thought he was a nobody. 'cause he never did a lot of things and Anne in this book, the little girl who grows up. She thinks her everything. She does a mistake because her life has been a series of sort of mishaps ever since the accident that happened and other things happened and she just doesn't get it right. And I'm sure you know people like this. Just like everything I try. It just goes bad. You know, why does it never work out for me? And you know, sometimes that is how it's working out for you. That is how you're learning you're there. You know to to experience those things and be better as a result of them. We just don't look at it that way. So I wanna both of these books to sort of be, you know, instead of having the die and go to heaven to have these little things explain to you, maybe maybe, you know, there was something I could write. It will get people to think about it while we're here and we can do something about. And that meant so much to me because I read the five people, you meet in heaven out of very low point in my life. And if really made me have hope that everything works out for a reason and everything will make sense at some point, even if I couldn't see it at the time, what vice would you have for someone who is dealing with depression or feeling really bad about themselves who might pick up your book. Well, first of all, depression is a very serious thing. And if you're talking about clinically depressed and this is this is serious things that require somebody for smarter than me if you're talking about. Feeling bad, feeling blue. You know, there's, there's a moment actually where we're clear the dog that you were referencing says to Annie in the book that you can realize how good you have it the minute, you realize how much need there is in the world outside of your own. And you know that she was describing how dogs naturally gravitate to human beings who are crying, which is a true fact that if there's two people in one or crying and one is happy, the dog will go to the one who's crying because it's just a dogs nature to be empathetic. And and if we had that more human beings to realize that there's always somebody sadder, there's always somebody in in more shape. There's always somebody who could use your help. Even as bad as you might feel about yourself, you could brighten their day you would. Then you would then have your own day bright. And so the simplest thing there is no simple answer to being depressed or being down. But what I found when I find myself in those movies that you know, I just go do something that or get involved in something where someone has it worse than me. And I have an orphanage in Haiti, for example that I operate. And I go there every month and I have found is coming on nine years now. I have found that ever since I've been going there, I don't have depression, you know, I see how the starvation there and the and the and the disease there and and and how we can at least make a difference in. We have forty seven kids in their lives and how some of them wouldn't be alive if not for the orphanage. And I just my problems fade. You know, it doesn't mean I don't have them. Doesn't mean I don't think about it. I just don't let them take full control of me. Because I'm able to see on a monthly basis every for three or four days every month. People who have it who who would would give anything to have my problems. So I think it's just a little bit of perspective on, you know, the needs of others versus yourself and you'd be amazed at how could you can actually end up feeling your work really resonates with so many people on so many levels. What kinds of comments do you hear from people whose lives have been impacted by your writing? I mean, sometimes I'm barris because I think they're giving me too much credit. You know, they say things like, oh, that book changed my life or that book of came came all you just said it a couple of minutes ago came along at a certain point in my life and really changed my outlook or you know, and I'm very, very grateful for that. I never take credit for that. I always feel an always say, look, these things were in you before you read my book. I, I, I'm not that powerful north, my writing, maybe something I wrote triggered something or loosen. Something and it became free and therefore you, you know, did what you were gonna do anyhow. But sometimes I'm I'm really pleased if, for example, people read Tuesday's Maury, and they'll say to me, you know, after read your book, I contacted my old teacher. I haven't talked to in twenty five years. And now you know, we visit regularly. That's action. You know, that's that's actual activity. And you can say, wow, you know, help bring people together or, you know, I wasn't talking to my brother for years. I realized life's too short after I read the people have and and I, I called him and you know, we're back together now we're in our lives. That's wonderful. And you know if you can be part of that, and that's all I am just a part of that process. I, I don't have as I say any kind of magic words or whatever that get people to do it. But sometimes I've been like that too. I read books that have you know, spawned an IBM me and I act on the idea and and I'm better for it. So. Those are the wonderful kinds of things that I hear. And I just consider myself, you know, blessed to be in a position to even write anything that would move people like that. And I and it also teaches you to take your location very seriously about what you right, because you know people reading carefully so you know, don't be flipping and try not to be Mitch. I'm a millennial and I feel like my generation is so caught up in trying to get a new job position, new title and being on social media all the time, and these things seem so important to everybody. But a key theme of your books is that those aren't the important things. How can we find out who we really are beyond these titles. Try living without one that that's true. Yeah. I mean, at some point, if you wanna see what life is like without social media get off of it, you know, if you wanna see what life is like, what you're not chasing something at work quit. You know, more more taught me way. Way back. He said, if you don't like the culture, don't buy it, you don't have to. And this is also something that traveled teaches you sometimes if you stay in one city or they want place, you kinda think like, well, where would I be without social media? How could I possibly survive without my work? We're gonna and then you go someplace else. You see at the same moment that you are so wrapped up in getting that Facebook post out there or or getting, you know, responding on Twitter or or letting everybody know how important job is right at that very moment. There's, you know, a billion people in other places doing completely different things than you and they're still breathing air and they're still eating and they're still sleeping and they're. Still walking around and and there are so many different ways to lead your life that that are that are happening right at the moment that you're leading it. So it's not. You don't have to take my word for, you know, if you could just snap your fingers going, some of those cameras on online that show the world someplace else, and you realize, well, wait a minute. This isn't the only way to be. There are many, many, many, many, many ways to be. And if I'm not being satisfied by these things, I'm not feeling good about all this activity. I'm doing. Maybe wanna try a different way and you know more. He said that back in the seventies and and he was right then and he's just as right, if not more so now, Mitch, our show is called nobody told me and we always ask our guests once your nobody told me less than you can take this anywhere you want, you know, what is it the nobody told you about writing about living and dying or about being an extremely successful author? That's a great question. And you have a wonderful show just based on that premise alone, boy boy, talk. About being able to explore the world to a single question I have found, I'll answer in the contemporary fashion because of where I am now. I have found it. Nobody told me what it was gonna be. Like when all the older people in my life, who I used to go to for wisdom were gone, and I was going to have to be the one to come up with the answers on my own and to advise people who are younger than me somehow, even though intellectually, you know, it. You always kind of think that there's going to be, you know, your parents or somebody was older, wiser that you'll be able to go to. And I've lived long enough to both of my parents have gone more. He's gone. The old people clerics that I wrote about in have a little faith are gone, and you know, you just don't have. The wisdom in your life anymore. That used to think you were always going to be able to turn to. And then it's a test to see, well, how much. Of what they gave you duck, you know, and how much of it is inside you that you can now employ and give someone else. I remember rabbi giving a sermon many, many years ago when I was too young to even really comprehend it. He talked about. His his last older relative and uncle his had died. And when he was at the funeral. As he stood over the grave, he said to him. So he looked around the family and he realized he was the oldest one still left living. And he said, I'm next and that realization that you know logically than he was the next one to go, changed everything in his life. And while I'm not quite there chronologically in terms of like all the people that I used to look to for help or for guidance for wisdom, I'm there now and nobody told me how lonely that was going to be and how how much you wish that you had spent even more time talking to all those people and learning from them because when they're gone, they're gone. That's absolutely fantastic answer. One of the best thing we've ever had on the show. Yeah, I can certainly relate to that. I mean, when you realize heads your turn at bat. Yeah, it's scary, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And you're looking around for older people and and the the mentors. And so many of them are gone. Yeah. Well, in that case, you know, I guess that's what it really means to grow up. And I'm gonna have to learn how to grow up. I knew I was going to have to sooner or later avoid it long as I could. But. We'll Mitch, we wanna thank you so much for being on our show. Today. You've been listening to Mitch Albom whose latest book is called the next person you meet in heaven and he's got a fabulous website at Mitch Albom. A LB OM dot com. I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan black, and you've been listening to. Nobody told me, thanks so much for joining us.

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Mitch Albom on the Little Girl Who Changed His Life

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Mitch Albom on the Little Girl Who Changed His Life

"This is kick ASS news. I'm Ben Mathis kick ASS news is brought to you by bear. Bear makes aspirin that helps save lives during a heart attack and protects the heart of a family from advances in health with to innovation in agriculture. Bear is advancing science for a better life at bear. This is why we science and now enjoy the PODCAST. Hi I'm Ben. Mathis welcome to kick ASS news today. I'm happy to welcome the author Mitch. Albom back to the show. You know him from his Number One New York Times bestsellers including Tuesdays with Morrie the five people you meet in Heaven for for one more day and have a little faith and now he's written his most personal story to date an intimate and heart warming memoir about what it means to be a family family and the young Haitian orphan whose short life would forever change his heart. It's called finding Chica. A little girl an earthquake and the making of a family and today Mitch returns to the podcast. Talk about how he came to run. An orphanage in earthquake ravaged Haiti. How recent political instability ability in the country has led to some frightening encounters for the kids and the hardest part about running an orphanage under those conditions? He shares how he became a surrogate father to a young girl with a terminal illness. How he learned what it means to be kid tough and how Chica taught him some valuable lessons about the important things in life coming up with bestselling author Mitch Albom in just a moment? I'm happy to welcome Mitch. Albom back to the show. Mitch is a bestselling author. Screenwriter playwright and nationally syndicated columnist chemist the author of Five Consecutive Number One New York Times bestsellers. His books have collectively sold more than thirty. Three million copies in forty two languages worldwide Tuesdays with Morrie which spent four straight years atop the New York. Times list is now the best selling memoir of all time and four of Mitch albums books including Maury the five people you meet in Heaven for one more day and have a little faith have been made into highly acclaimed. TV MOVIES FOR ABC album has founded six charities in in and around his hometown of Detroit and he also operates an orphanage in port-au-prince Haiti. That's where he met the young girl who inspired his latest book finding Chica Sika a little girl an earthquake and the making of a Family Mitch. Welcome back to the PODCAST. Thank you very much. Nice to be here well. Finding Chica was incredibly touching. And it's at times a heartbreaking book about a young Haitian Orphan girl who had terminal brain tumor and you and your wife Deneen an actually welcomed her into your home really became a surrogate family to her and were there for her final moments. How long has it taken for you to feel comfortable writing about on her? Well I think Writing about her was actually kind of Cathartic to be honest with you You have a lot of grief. You have a lot of emotions a a lot of love. That doesn't have a place to go anymore. So at least as a someone who writes for a living and also for his art That was kind of a natural troll way for me to express the story and I deliberately didn't want to write a sad story And it didn't wanNA write something where you're afraid to get to the last twenty pages when you don't want to read about a child dying so I set it up that right from the beginning you know what happens to her on the very first page but yet she's come back to visit let me as Soo- frequently does when I close my eyes or dreaming or things like that and she's come back. They asked me to tell her story. And she's sort of sitting by my feet in the office this where where we always used to be together every morning and She same while you're writing. Why don't you just write my story right about me? And she asked a bunch of questions so in that way it was sort sort of like having a year long conversation with her and in some ways it made me feel good. Some made me feel sad. Some made me laugh out out loud and that's kind of like having a child is right and you say that she first visited you about eight months after her death. I WanNa say it was the day of your father's a funeral or the day that he passed away and I was curious because I wasn't sure how to take that. Were you being literal when you said that she was visiting you. Well I remember that a sort of being the first time that I would close my eyes and kind of have these conversations you know. I think my father had just passed away and and a lot of things were on my mind. We were out there to to bury him And had a dream where she was right there next to me and Holding the porch railing and I turned and called her name out and she looked at me and then and then she was kind of gone and so That began sort sort of these conversations. Where after a while if I dream about her now it doesn't it doesn't freak me out in any way? I just kind of take it as part of the you know ongoing conversation you have with people who you love who are never really gone now. I'm retreading a little bit of our previous conversation about a year ago because says I want to ask about this orphanage that you run in Haiti where you found CHICA. When you first arrived in Haiti after the twenty ten earthquake I think it was how bad? What were the conditions at that orphanage? Oh my goodness it's very hard to describe to people who have been there First of all the kids were barely early eating if they ate they once a day usually a cup of rice when I got there after the earthquake and the place was overrun with people because in Haiti after natural disastrous people will flock the hospitals or orphanages. Thinking that's where they're gonNA bring food which is not really true but you know they were there and so the place was stuffed with two hundred and fifty adults and just everybody running around and the kids were sleeping in the dirt. Everybody was sleeping Outside nobody would go inside any buildings because they were afraid they would come back down on them. Everybody was covered in this white dust. It was just permanently in the air. There were no showers is no baths You know very little water. Everyone on the street was begging and and and and decking water sometimes when dirty puddles of muddy in the street and And looking for any kind of help whatsoever if they saw someone from the West I mean from the United States Uh and people just saying please. I'm hungry please help me so it. It was devastating. It was really hell on earth and Haiti a couple of weeks after the earthquake earthquake and prior to that. I'm assuming that you had no prior experience operating an orphanage right. How does one just up and start running an orphanage and get it into something like that? I've thought about that question many times in my life. No you're right. I had any experience operating an orphanage I had gone down there after the earthquake to help Detroit pastor who had started the place and At some point I kept coming back every the month with guys from Detroit who were building things. Built the first showers built. The first toilets built the first School the first kitchen the first dining room at one point. He admitted to me that he didn't have any money to operate the plays even though we were building it up very nicely you said. I just don't have any money was in his eighties and he said you know. I don't know how I'm going to be able to even feed any of these kids in one of those moments that you look back on and say I don't know what I was thinking. I I said to him. Well I could probably operate this. I run charities in Detroit. It's a charity kind. Of how hard could it be. He basically said Hallelujah praise Jesus and we signed the papers and I've been in charge of it ever since and I have I've been in charge of it ever since and and I go there every month. We now have fifty two children. I've admitted forty six of those fifty two and you learn you learn on the on the job. That's for sure. That's a lot of kids and in terms of just the day to day operations the logistics and just keeping things running in a place like that. What is the most difficult part about operating an orphanage in Haiti? Well there's not one difficult for pretty much. Everything is difficult you know. Imagine a place where the power goes out every single night so you have to deal with that and do we have a generator that can keep certain. Things working Dan I imagine that you know you have to have fifty two kids. One of them gets a cold or Heaven forbid you know mosquito. traveled disease. He's which there are a lot of like chicken Gagnoa or dengue. Then all of them end up getting it and especially if it's contagious that way and you have to deal with one kid being sick and quick. Let's protect him before the other kids get sick. And then the Water truck doesn't show up so you don't have any water or there wasn't any fuel that any of the gas station so you don't have any petrol to put into the generator. Which means you can have any lights on at night? Which means your pitch black all the time the electricity see the computer? If you WANNA work one does work. the food delivery didn't come there are riots in the streets as there are right now and none of the staff could make it there because they were threatened by people or people were throwing rocks. This is a daily daily basis You know let alone okay. How do we make sure the kids are loved? And they're not fighting and they're sharing and all the lessons you would wanna teach children so you know. Take your average family. The three and the issues that you have to deal with with that multiply it by about sixteen seventeen then multiply that by about ten and the multiply that by one hundred and then put it in one hundred degree heat and That's pretty much pretty much every day there. Yeah you've got your hands full now. You said a moment ago that their rights in the streets right now. What are the people writing about well? Haiti's government has been corrupt for as long as you can remember in this current regime is not a whole lot better and the people of just had it there there's such shortages of fuel shortages of food expensive Inflationary costs a basic living. Kids can't go to school unless they pay in advance that's public school. And the guy who's in there the current president and promised to fix all these things and hasn't and was involved in some scandals of his own and the people have basically said you know we're not we're not leaving the streets until he steps down while he was refusing to step down and so his hired people are out on the streets making trouble and other people around the streets. Making trouble trouble in the result is of course. The average working person is totally flummoxed totally stopped so schools haven't been open for seven weeks now because Nobody nobody can get to them because the streets are all blocked off. I was there three weeks ago and our just our van coming from the airport to our mission to our orphanage was attacked act by protesters. We didn't do anything we were just in the street but we were a car and he threw rocks at us and jumped on our side of the car and banging on the windows and thankfully fully our director was able to get out and explain where from an orphanage. We're trying just trying to get to our kids. Please let go eventually. They let us go but they'll shake down down for money. Take the things that you have and but just trying to create an atmosphere of terror so well so that the government. We'll get to stay in power or that. The government will get thrown out of power depending on. Who's doing the hiring of the troublemakers? Meanwhile the average person is totally Totally left behind and just daily life is an enormous enormous struggle with that kind of political instability and riots in the streets. Do you worry about the safety of these kids. They're sure I worry about the safety of our kids all the time. We have a security guard. The other day had a fire is gone a couple of times because people threatening threatening to come over the walls and come into our orphanage Of course I worry about our kids. Even as I'm talking to you right now. I read in here. That you have a tradition edition where you actually spend every new year's with the kids at the orphanage what is a Haitian New Year celebration like well. We kind of invented our our own New Year celebration costs. None of our kids ever really celebrated New Year's from where they came from you know they've come from such impoverished areas. New Two years is just another night. But I've taught them The melody to old Lang signed the words but I thought them so they they all know if you were to go there right now and start saying that They could finish it for you with the Donna. And then we get sparklers. which for some reason those you can get in Haiti? It can't get you can't get gas and you can't get you can get sparklers and so we found out. We got sparklers so each kid gets a sparkler and after we have dinner of pizza which we can get from a local place especially dinner of pizza and juice and then every kid gets a sparkler and We liked the sparklers and they put the sparklers in his bad of dirt and they make a wish for what they want for the New Year and when the last of the spark was goes out then they all single Lang signed and they all jump up and down and dance around and and say happy new year and then everybody goes to bed. And it's like eight forty five. That's a New Year's so we don't we. Don't wait for the ball to drop. You know I've got two and three year year old and they're not staying up late so our new year's comes around eight thirty PM and by eight forty five. Everybody's in bed now. This book is about this very special special orphan. Who came into your life? How did she? I arrive at the orphanage Chica. John was born three days before the terrible earthquake of two thousand ten ten and on the third day of her life. She was inside a Cinder Block house lying on her mother's chest when the earth shook and the roof fell off. The walls collapsed but She was somehow able to survive and two years later sadly her mother who survive the earthquake died giving birth to a baby brother because she was giving birth at home. And you know very few women can afford to go to hospital and have a baby be and something went wrong. And she died right there in the bed and the baby was born but Chica was taken away by Godmother and never saw the rest of her her family really again and she was brought to us a few months later and she was very brash right from the start very bold even during her interview view when we were considering her she instead of like most kids do when they lower their heads and they're kind of very shy. She looked me square in the eye and made a face like Kay. There's kids outside. I WanNa go play with them. Can we finish this up. You know. And then she's stuck her tongue out at me and I suck my tongue at her and we laughed and I said boy she's really really brave this one and he was barely three years old and as it turns out she was very brave and she would need to be. And how did you learn that she was ill. I got a call one day in between my visits from Alan are Haitian director. WHO said Mr Mitch? There's something the matter with Cheetah's face I said what's the matter with her face face drooping her I in her mouth and I said well did you take her to the doctor said Yeah what the doctor say he gave her. I drops I said Alan eyedrops not GonNa fix this. We need to find a neurologist. I didn't know it was bell's palsy or something like that but we found wondering inderal does not easy to do eighty and then there's only one MRI machine in the country at the time. And you have to go to this place and pay seven hundred fifty dollars cash and then you sit there for six seven hours until they call your name and she went in had the MRI done. And when it was done I got a two sentence report. That said There was a mass on the child's brain. And whatever it is there's no one in Haiti who can help her. And so that set us kind kind of emotion We scrambled for visa and paperwork and got her to America's quickly as we could hoping that American medicine would be able to fix what Haitian medicine clearly couldn't and They did experimental brain surgery. Honor here in America and we thought well okay. You know. They'll tell us they got it out and she she can go home and x amount of months and instead when we got called into the consultation room they said vote. We have bad news. This is something called d. i. p. G. Diffuse Intrinsic Intrinsic ponting Glioma and it is always fatal and usually takes a kid within four months and she'll probably be dead. You know before the summer is over and we had to make a decision as to what we're GONNA do. Yeah the doctor. At the time suggested that you let her go back to Haiti so she she could just spend what little time she had left with her friends and basically wait to die. You refuse to do that. What led you to that decision? Well the doctor suggested suggested that we take her to Haiti and just let her play for a month or two. The symptoms would rapidly debilitate her and she wouldn't be able to walk or swallow follow and she would just die and He said you know let her have a month or two with a friend because you can try things up here but in the end they're not gonNA make any difference but I knew that she was a fighter. I watched her not only when I got there but with our kids she was always bossing around somewhere somewhere to go and I said No. You don't understand this little girl. She's a fighter and she's GonNa fight this and if she fights it real fight with her and we made the decision that day to begin a whole different course of action in our lives and that was the beginning of what turned out to be a two year journey. She lived two years with this disease which is almost unheard of and we traveled around the world trying to find a cure and along the way we found something that that was even better Well maybe not even better. I'd still rather have the cure but maybe the next best thing we found that we become a family. And how many different treatments events did she undergo while you were traveling the world and trying to seek out. Whatever could help her well? She had to six week rounds of intense radiation and she had to experimental brain surgeries where they put a catheter into her head and slow fed Drug into it for twelve hours and then followed up for a month at a time. She had another brain surgery beyond that she had three visits to Germany for immunology of where they take blood out of you every day and then they treat it with then rettig cells and put back into you and hope that it has an effect Should we had all kinds of experimental medications. He was on a pick line. She had an internal port. She had a speeding too. I mean it goes on and on the medical stuff really after awhile blurs altogether vote. The point of it is and I certainly don't spend a lot of time on the medical stuff in the book book. Because what's important is that she had this amazing attitude the whole time and she was so strong and she made us feel stronger as a result all of it and she was still developing as a child. She was different after one year. Then she was when she first got there she was different after a year and a half then she was when she got there she was growing up. Well we were so busy worrying about what's going to be for a future. She was just living it you know and she was a kid growing up and so It was that growing up in the things that she said and did and and learned and and affected us that ultimately became the the backbone of this book book and you actually have a term that you use in this book to describe Chica. You say she was kid tough. Do you think sick children have a special kind of resilience that maybe even we adults could learn from. Oh I don't think that I know it I've spent way too much time in children's hospitals but the one thing I can tell you is that so you will see kids go flying down the hall with their IB to Because they don't want to be late for the arts and crafts room or they want to play the xbox or they wanNA paint t shirts or whatever it is and in in you see the in a hospital room behind them they leave behind a mother and father who are weeping into their hands and the kid just wants to play and and because of that you know there's a toughness to them that we just don't realize maybe it's because they haven't lived long enough to really understand what a life threatening illness means or to understand what they're losing. They just kind of adapt kids adapt. And that's what she did when she they they shaved their head. One time a not her head but a portion of it which is even worse and We forgot to tell her or you know and they did it during the operation and then we were so sleepy in the hospital room and she said she had to go the bathroom and my wife water into the bathroom forgetting that they were mirrors. I in the bathroom and she can yell. Hey what happened in my hair. I remember hearing that thinking. Oh God we didn't have a response prepared for this but she thought it was funny she was rubbing. It feels funny and then we got her a ski cap and she loved the ski cap and then later we got her headband. And she loved the headbands. And you know that's what kids do. They just adapt their in in in in Michigan. They have something the fairy doors and these are doors that they've put in along the baseboards of different walls in hate in in in the hospital and Some people will leave money behind these doors and kids will open up. You know it'd be a couple points or something and she would come out of. She was in for a blood infection. One one time in for another surgery and all she wanted to do was find these ferry doors and I'd have to take the whole apparatus the IV's and everything. It was around her head. If we'd go rolling down the hallway and she'd say you know where's the door where superiority just want to find a parent and you know she didn't say oh so in such pain gene are all. There's so much apparatus here she just wanted to find the ferry door and to me that was kind of a metaphor for you know the way the kids can just make magic out of anything. Even when she couldn't walk anymore you know she would stumble would try to stand up. She'd ball announced. Try to stand up. She'd fall down and I saw our wants do this and she was grabbing having for a dollar off the shelf and then she fell backwards on a rear end and then she grabbed it and she fell backwards so she finally just took the dial and crawled and she crawled across the room and and set up shop under a table. And that's where she decided to play so that you wouldn't have to stand up and I I think there's a certain acceptance and toughness and resiliency. The the kids have that adults only wish they had and in some ways it inspires you. How did this experience for you rely on your priorities in life? Oh in every anyway. I mean you know. We didn't have CHICA. Come to us until we were in our late fifties and we've been married twenty plus years. We've been together thirty years and living together just the two of us and suddenly we were three. You know. Suddenly there was a little girl sleeping at the foot of our bed and we. We're getting up in the middle of the night when she had to go potty and waking up early because she wanted breakfast and dealing with all the stuff that a new parent has to deal with with a child but then and of course having this ticking clock hanging over her as well and All your priorities just fall by the wayside. You think your life is so full you think you have every minute accounted for and you know you have all these appointments you have to get to and you just drop them you you just say okay. Well this is more important than it's amazing. How much room you can make AAC in your in your life If you're willing to put stuff aside and we didn't really look at it as a choice we had to. I mean we just moved moved to Germany for two or three weeks at a time and just had to leave everything behind you know because of that cell work we come back try to pick up the pieces and go back to Germany again a month later and do it all over again but you know when it's for somebody that you love and for child you don't look at it as sacrifice yes you really look at the things that are interfering with it as sacrifice i. I'm sorry I have to go to work but I'll be right back And that's not the way you looked looked at work beforehand but it is once you really are blessed with a loving child who you can love back you also say that you and your wife actually argued more. As Chico's his condition got worse which is totally understandable. I mean that's a huge strain on a marriage I can think of many couples who end up getting divorced after the loss of a child. How did the two of you keep it together through all that? Well I think as we were old enough to know what you just said as well that many couples get divorced after a child has lost and we didn't want to be that couple and you know when couples fight when their children are sick a lot of the times the really not fighting against each other other. They're fighting the frustration of not being able to beat the real opponent. which is the disease and you feel helpless that you can't beat the disease and so you take it out on the person who's closest to you until you find yourself arguing over a TV program? Why she watching this well? She likes watching this. You know. Well it's not good for. She shouldn't watch it. Well let her watch. And then what you're saying is well. She's sick and she might die so let her watch it. And I don't WanNa hear that you sipping can she might die so shut it off and your arguments become not really about what they're about you know and they can escalate really fast and it's mostly just frustration. Asian in the form of turning on the person you love the most in so Janine and I knew that that's what was happening and after someone took a breath one of us would say all right. I'm sorry you know and the other one would say yeah. Yeah I'm sorry too and you know as long as you diffuse those situations before they got too big. I think you can endure them. And you know for us. Chica wasn't the only thing holding us together But she was something that we came together over over and now that she's gone you know. Her memory is what we come together over and boy. I had a nickel for every time in the day that my wife or I say to one another remember when she can use to say this remember. She's or look at that shirt or remember this picture. And you know we've just learned to try to make that a positive even not a negative. And what do you think about most when you think about Chica. Today I think about the way she communicated First of all because she was so brash and funny she would sing doe deer email deer and then we would say no. It's not emailed she. It's female to to say what it's female not email. No it's my mouth and I can say what I want you know and then you'd have to okay. I guess you win you. You know or the time she asked you know when you're GonNa Fall in love and I wanNa Fall in love because you guys are in love and I wanna be in love. You know. We'd say well. Who are you're GONNA fall in love with? I don't know somebody well a boy. Yeah well you want a boy like Mr Mitch kind of well. What kind of boy do you want? I want a boy I never met before. Why because that's how you did it? You met Cammisa Janine. You never met her before and now you love her. I want that somebody loved me like that and you realize you know not only was she funny funny and intelligent than unique but she was also saying that she wanted but we had you know she wanted a happy life she perceived received that we had one so it was a really major melt. You know so I miss those kinds of conversations all the time. I missed the way she felt in my arms arms. I miss her hair against my cheek. You know and being able to kiss her and You know Mr telling me what time it was to go to bed. I miss singing lullabies tour and hearing her sing things back. I missed singing with her and then she would put her hand over my mouth so that I would shut up so she could sing by yourself. That was very common move I miss the way she picked her clothes out in the morning and kept changing socks socks over and over again and There's pretty much there's pretty much no part of her that I don't Miss And in any given moment of the the day I could tell you what I was thinking about right then and there. She sounds like a very very sweet child. There's a scene toward the end of the book where where her numbers drop and the nurse thought that she was close to passing away. But you sense that. She was still fighting and struggling. And you began pounding on her back. DOC which I guess helps in some way and said come on baby. Fight that moment to me. Read weirdly similar to the moment in Tuesdays with Morrie when you were whacking Maury on the back trying to break up the congestion in his lungs. Did you ever get any sense of deja Vu in that moment or did occur you later. Well when you mentioned it yeah you know. Oh you're right I did have to do that with more. But it wasn't with Maury. It was just the sort of clear his breathing With Chica on that particular particular day yeah. They thought that she was gone. And we were leaning in holding her and we heard like a kind of rumbling chest and I said she sounds like she's struggling ogling and they said no those are just the sound children make at the end and I said no again I said No. She's fighting. She's fighting fighting. She fights we fight and I did exactly what you said. I started pounding on the back and we ran this suction things were knows and throw trying to clear you know whatever was blocking blocking her from being able to breathe and within five minutes all her numbers had returned to the safe zone and the hospice people's mouths dropped and they looked at us and they said we've never never seen that happen with child before and I wanted to say well you've never seen a child like this one and she lived another day and that was a wonderful a day. Because you know having endured that we told everyone who she who cared about her to come and see her and she had Chica had so many friends that she called friends. who were you know? Forty fifty sixty years old. You know but you call them friends because you really weren't any kids around and all those people hope parade of people. Oh came to see her and and to say their goodbyes to her and the next day quietly and much more of peacefully she left us well before we go in the book list. Seven lessons that Chica taught you would he is posed was the most important one probably the last one Which I call what we carry because I used to have to carry Chica in my arms? You know for the last four months or so of her life because she couldn't walk anywhere and I had to carry Harry her to the bathroom or the bedroom or wherever we were going up steps down steps transportation and we were sitting at the kitchen table one time and we. We were coloring and she looked at me and I I looked at my watch popped up and I said you gotta go late for work and she said no no stay and and I said no CHICA. This is my job and she said No. It isn't your job is carrying me and you know. I was floored by that and I realized she was absolutely right. My job was carrying her. Not just carrying her from place to place but carrying her caring for her and all of our jobs opposite to carry our children and it's also our jobs if we're blessed to be able to do it to carry the other children of the world who may not be our own may not look like us or talk doc like us or sound like us come from us or even live in the same country but they're needy and they're poor and they need love and my the job is to carry the fifty two orphans at our. At our orphanage you could brothers and sisters and it's a great job and it's a wonderful weight to bear and I wouldn't ask for any other type of work and it was one of many things that you could talk with a once more. The book is called Finding Chica. A little girl roll an earthquake and the making of Family Mitch Albom. You're a good man. Thanks so much for talking with me thanks it was. It was a pleasure to talk with you. And thanks for spreading getting the word about this book and I want to add that all of the profits from this book. Go to the kids at the orphanage. Nothing to me so of people do want to help us Out that's one way that they can help out. Thanks again to Mitch Albom for coming on the podcast again. You can order finding Chica. A little girl an earthquake in the making of a family on Amazon audible or wherever books are sold and keep up with Mitch Mitch. ALBOM DOT COM or on twitter at Act Mitch. 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Ep. 01: Mitch Albom reads an excerpt from "Finding Chika"

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Ep. 01: Mitch Albom reads an excerpt from "Finding Chika"

"Welcome to story bound presented by lit- hub radio and the POT agglomerate it. I'm your host Judy Brewer. This is our first episode. So thank you for joining us coming up in one. Minute is a story told by Mitch. albom with compositions is by Maya Win and Ali so settle in and enjoy the show Growing up I would always carry a book around my own private invisible world full of new discoveries these these days whether it's the weekend or my lunch break I'll stop by Powell's books and see what's new on. The front shelves read Employee Recommendations. That's one of my favorite things about Powell's the personal touch Powell's books is the world's largest family owned independent bookstore with over two million new and used volumes across five Portland area stores and and their website Powells DOT COM book. Lovers of all persuasions can find exactly what they're looking for or and discover something new wonderful and unexpected. Come here your favorite authors read at one of Powell's five hundred plus free in store events each year or checkout original essays and interviews on the Powell's blog visit Powells dot com and use coupon code story bound for twenty percent off your next purchase of twenty five dollars or more available only at Powells Dot Com. That's twenty percent off your next purchase of twenty twenty five dollars or more. Just enter Promo Code story bound. Why aren't you writing Mr Mitch Cheek is lying on the carpet in my office she flips onto. We're back. She plays with her fingers. She comes here in the early morning when the light is still thin at the win sometimes she has a doll percent of magic. AGIC markers other times. It's just her. She wears her blue pajamas with the my little pony cartoon on the top and Pastel stars on the bottoms. You in the past. She could love to choose her clothes each morning after brushing her teeth. Matching the colors of the socks shirts. But she doesn't do do that anymore. Chica died last spring when the trees in our yard were beginning to bud as they are budding now as it is spring again again. Her absence left us without breath or sleep or appetite and my wife and I stared straight ahead for long stretches until someone someone spoke to snap us out and then one morning Chica reappeared. Why aren't you writing? She says again and my arms are crossed. I stare at the empty screen. About what about me. I Will mm-hmm when soom she makes her sound like a cartoon Titan. Don't be mad I you say. Don't be mad CHICA. Don't go. She taps her little fingers on the desk. If she has to think about it she can never stays for long. She first appeared eight months after she died the morning of my father's funeral I walked outside the look at the sky and suddenly there. She was standing beside me holding the porch railing. I said her name and disbelief Chica and she turned so I knew she could hear me. I spoke quickly believing this was a dream. She would vanish at any moment. That was then lately when she appears. I'm calm I say. Good Morning Beautiful Girl. And she says Good Morning Mister Mitch mm-hmm and she sits on the floor or in her little chair which I never removed from my office. You can get used to everything in life. I suppose Even this all right she guys say I'll start writing. Yea She squeals shaking her fists one condition she stops her shaking. And you have to stay here while I do. We have to stay with me. Okay I know she can do. I'm asking still I bargained It's all we really want my wife and I since she has been gone to be in the same place with her all the time. Tell Xiaomi my story Chica says and you'll stay home. I'll try alright. I say I will tell. Oh you the story of us she says us I say and I wasn't there the day you were born Chica. I arrived in Haiti a few weeks later to help after a terrible earthquake. And since you always tell me I should talk like a grownup then I can say it was seismic enough in thirty thirty seconds to wipe out. Nearly three percent of your country's population buildings crumbled offices collapsed houses that health l. families were intact one moment puffs of smoke. The next people died and were buried in the rubble. Many of them not found in two weeks later their skin covered in grey dust. They never did get an accurate count of those lost not to this day but it was in the hundreds of thousands. That's more people killed in less than a minute. Then all the days of the American revolution and the Gulf War combined it was a tragedy on an island where tragedies no stranger Haiti your home and this is the second poorest nation in the world with a history of hardship many deaths the kind that come too soon but it is also a place of great happiness Chica place of beauty and laughter unshakable shakeup of Faith and children children who in a rain storm. We'll hook arms and dance spontaneously. Then throw themselves to the ground in hysterics wchs as if they don't know what to do with all that joy you were happy there in that way once even very poor the story of your birth was told to me as follows on January ninth. Two thousand ten. You entered this world inside a two room cinderblock cinderblock house by breadfruit tree. There was no doctor present. A midwife named Talbert delivered you from your mother's womb from all accounts yours was a healthy birth. You cried when you were supposed to new slip when you were supposed to and on your third day of life January twelfth a hot afternoon you were sleeping on your mother's chest when the world shook as if the dirt health thunder your your cinderblock house wobbled and the rue fell off and the structure split open like a walnut leaving the two of you expose to the heavens. Perhaps God got a good look at you CHICA. Because he didn't take you that day and he didn't take your mother even though he took so many others. Your your home was destroyed but you were both left intact naked to the sky but intact all around people were running falling deprave in crime. Trees Lay on their side. Animals hid you slept. That night in the sugarcane fields on a bed of leaves under the stars and you slept there for many days that followed so you were birthed into the soil of your homeland she all. It's roiling raging in beauty. And maybe that is why you sometimes roiled enraged yourself and were so beautiful you were Haitian although you lived in America and died in America you were always of another place as you are now even as you sit here with me once late at night. Miss Janine and I were crowds. It's next to your bed and you said to US quietly. How did you find me? I thought it such a sad question that I could only repeat it. How did we find you? You said yes and we said you mean how did you come to us and you said yes again but I think you meant that the way you said it because life before the orphanage was foggy in your memory like being in a misty forest. So how did you find me makes sense because to you. I suppose it felt as if you were found but you were never lost Chica. I want you to know that there were people who loved you before we loved you. Your mother reveal you and your father fed me. They had two girls who preceded you your older sisters and when your mother got pregnant with you. She told her. Best Friend Brasilia resilient that you would be her last child together. They chose an elegant name for you Missouri. Although very soon everyone was calling you chico. Someone said it was because you were a stocky baby. Someone else said cheek is a term of endearment. It doesn't really matter mm-hmm we have names. We are given a name that just attached to us and Chica was yours and had your mother been right. Had you been her last child she she might be alive and I might never have met you but she in Fedor had one more baby after you two years later a boy. He arrived the hottest month of the year August in the early hours before the sun came up Albert the midwife again present but this time if something went wrong your new brother lived near mother died. I know it makes no sense to have birth and death in the same bed Chica but that is what happened and that was the last you saw your birth family for a long time her Zulia coward. Howard you off after the funeral? She said your mother had chosen her as your godmother and had insisted if I ever die you must take Chica. And so she did a your next home did not last long less than a year. It was a single room apartment in a cinderblock structure that you share with your family. There was no bathroom inside at night when the electricity went off it was total darkness and in the mornings you would carry dirty bedsheets up the stairs to the rooftop. A dangerous undertaking for child. Not Get three years old woman. Saw You doing this in grew concerned for your safety. She suggested to her Zulia that you might be better off at an orphanage. She knew of one not far away and the section of the city known as Delma thirty three. That is the orphanage as I have operated. Since two thousand ten the year of the earthquake the place you call Machina. The mission specifically the have faith Haiti mission rectangular piece of land behind a High Greg Gate unruh and laremy terribly potholed streets that gathers water like small lake when it rains. And that Chica was the beginning of Providence. Moving our lives together or the continuance of it. I should I'd say since the Lord doesn't get ideas partway through life And you Uh the didn't want me crazy you can you. We know one day when I was back in Michigan. I got a phone call from Mr. Alan are Haitian director Sir there. There's something wrong with Chico. What's wrong I said? Her face is drooped and she's walking funny. Did you take her due to the doctor. Yes sir what did he do. He gave her eyedrops Allen. It's not her is can you find a neurologist sir. A nerve Dr. I will find one. I remember hanging up that phone feeling unsettled as something ominous with coming like the rolling thunder on Haitian afternoon before the heavy rains full we never needed needed a neurologist before Chica a skin doctor Yes a dentist shore cough medicine. Diarrhea Medicine Children's Tylenol but a neurologist. How serious is this? I want when we finally found that neurologist he noted the group of your mouth and your left eye and how your gate was slightly off he ordered an MRI at the time there was only one. Mri Machine Sheen and all of Haiti and it costs seven hundred fifty dollars. Cash for an appointment. Mr Alan took you there. You left before sunrise. Six hours later. A nurse finally called your name. You were placed inside a large cylinder radio waves in a magnetic field regenerated around your head and the results were images that showed you from the inside and while I would have told people that on the inside Chica your warm and curious confident and funny the MRI analysis was more clinical. It was two sentences. The child has a mass on her brain. We don't know what it is but whatever it is. There was no one in Haiti. Who can help Tell me about when I came to America. You Ask all right. Here's what I recall. You were the first child we ever brought to this country and the day of your departure the other kids at the mission lined up to hug you wave goodbye as the car left the gates and I imagine some of them thought they would never see you again again accompanied by Mr Allen. You flew to Miami and onto Detroit wearing a white sweater. Even though was June in your first American bathroom you turn the Foshan Jerk your hands back. 'cause she would never felt hot water from the sink before so before you even slept the night here here. This country was a wonder Mr Nina and I were waiting at the house. Mr Need had arranged. Some colorful blankets endows to make you feel welcome. At the time we hope the doctors will diagnose the problem and treat it quickly and you would. He'll under our watch. Then you could return into hate. We thought this would take a few months looking back now. We really knew so little. I should say that you did not seem scared when you got here Chica but you did not speak much either or show much emotion mostly so you looked around and who could blame you. Virtually everything you saw was new traffic lights highways houses with yards mailboxes televisions in different rooms. The input had to be overwhelming. I often wondered when you went to sleep that first night. How far you imagined yourself from the commission the day after your arrival we went for tests at Children's Hospital in Arbor? It was the tallest building you would never seen. And you gazed up was walked inside. We approached the front desk and a man said hello. He gave you a wristband which you admired fired like a bracelet. Then the man turned to me and asked. What is your relationship to the patient? For a moment I hesitated tainted all around where mothers and fathers many looking similar to their children. Same hair same skin color seemed facial features. IPHONE fall is if I've been caught trying to fool someone. I answered by saying Legal Guardian. Those are technically the correct words and the man wrote something down and asked me to stand before a camera. Mr Mitch. You suddenly yelled. Look you pointed to a large superman figure in the lobby. I released your hand and you ran to it just as the man had the me a sticker with a grainy photo my face above the photo old Stuck You are listening to story about and now I'm I bring Now we return from are bringing Janine I had been hopeful based on doctors earlier analysis. USCIS that the mass in Shaka's brain could be manageable so was fuzzy on the scans and during surgery the frozen samples that they removed. We're not overly alarming. The hope was for a great one tumor most easily dealt to but we were braced for a great to which they warn could involve some radiation in long term surveillance. Instead Dr Garten came into that consultation sat down and in a soft but direct voice said the news was it was not good worse than they thought that Chica had something called Diffuse Intrinsic Pantene Glioma or D. I p. g. one asked that was a great one or two. He said it was a four four. He began to lay out options which included radiation nation therapy and experimental medications. But all I heard was four four I felt like I was stumbling. Even as I was sitting down mm-hmm Four. I kept listening for the part where the surgeons go back and take the whole monster out but it never came. Apparently if they did that there we'd be nothing left of Chico's brain to function for. What if she were your child? I mumbled Falling back on that Shell game putting the onus on the doctor well Dr Gardens said exhaling I would probably you take her back to Haiti. Let her enjoy the summer. Be With her friends until it's in the until that everything awful full lives. The doctors told us that she would live for four. Maybe five four months possibly ably longer if we underwent treatment but that could affect the quality of her life. She's a fighter. I finally said looking over it to me who nodded and as she fights. We're GONNA fight Dr Garten. Lean back alright he said and then for a few moments we all just sat there staring at an invisible battle plan. And you. Are you a little scared about going. Back to Haiti I'm crying Meru Meru sad but I'm still happy to uh-huh Do you remember the first morning you woke up at our house Chica. I was is already down in my office because mornings when I write and suddenly my phone rang was Miss Janine. Calling from the bedroom in a rasping just woke up voice. She said Mr Mitch. Chico's hungry for breakfast. Can you help her. I came upstairs and lead you to the the kitchen and we found eggs and butter and some cheese and tomatoes. I show you the frying pan the burner and you stood on your tip toes and helped move the spatula around. I pour juice. We set our prayers and I watched you eat and I watched you eat some more to call it. Leisurely doesn't come close. You chewed you look out the window put down your four yawn gone and picked up your four again. You swayed back and forth. Some internal rhythm took nearly an hour. I would compare this to the pace that I eat breakfast except I don't eat breakfast but the next morning when I heard your feet thumping down the steps at seven am am. I rose from my desk. met You with the door. Lifted you as you said Mr Mitch. I am hungry and carried you up to the kitchen. A child is both an anchor and a set of wings. My old way of doing things. What's gone before you came to us Miss Janine and I would watch? TV in bed and often fall asleep with TB. Be still playing once you arrive. We shut the lights and tiptoed around you in the darkness. Often in the dead of night you would wake us up Mr Mitch I have to go potty. I would guide you to the bathroom. Then wait eight. Yawning outside the door frame. I'd hear you flush help you wash your hands and guide you to your bed which was nice and low so you could tumble into it. Uh She okay. Miss Janine would whisper as I crawled back in beside her. She's fine. I'd mobile closing my eyes. She's He's good the most precious thing you can give. Someone is your time to go because you can never get it back when you don't think about getting back back you've given it in love. I learned that from you as time passes Chico choirs clothes some that we buy her some. That are friends bring her. She likes to dress up the frilly or the better and she marches around in Janin's high heels. She drapes herself multiple necklaces. She wears two hats at the same in time. She likes to Gild the lily. Janine jokes one day chicken I are heading out hold on I. You say you have something on your face what she says. I grab Napkin. I pat the area around her lips. You're kind of wet here. How did you get all wet? Mr Mitch she throws up her hands. That's my lip gloss. After six months in America we take Chico home for Christmas. The holiday is a big deal at the mission laden with traditions additions and the tippety play. Stockings hung in the dormitory a once. A year meal of Goat Fried Plantains and pick lease a spicy pickled cabbage dish. Sheikh is Giddy with excitement the night before. She crawls on the bed tickles me until I begged her to stop then she asked what's going to happen. step-by-step by step as I go through it. Her eyes drift away. She doesn't look like she did when she first left Haiti she's lost hair. She's lost teeth and and the operations the steroids. I asked if she was scared to be going back a little scared. She says making a small space based between her two fingers. I'm crying happy tears. She's never used that phrase before happy tears. I wonder where she gets it inside the next morning for the big day she wears white tights and sneakers with a Lime Green Hoodie. Over a sleeveless top. We board the plane and she glues to the window many the passengers are Haitians and she occasionally spins and says hey hey they are talking like me. As soon as we land imported prints she runs up the jetway. All but leaving me behind the airport ban. Dan Starts Playing Banjo Accordion Guitar Bongo drums and she dances in the hallway shaking and twirling in a way that proves she is home because only the home could liberate such joy. Mr Allen meets us in baggage claim reloaded his vehicle and Chika hides behind his seat as we drive through the mission gates. The kids have been informed of her return and they're chanting CHICA. Chica as we pull in look look back in amazement and says do you hear this. Don't look at me Mr Allen. She squeals look at something else. When the car door opens there was a massive rush and the Nannies are shouting and the little kids are jumping and there are so many hands around her lifting her up as her faces smacked with kisses? This is when they finally put Chica down. She wiggled her little black shoes in the dirt then she pulls off the Hoodie and runs to the swing set jumps on on a swing and push yourself higher as the other kids gathering. Watch if I could freeze any moment and give it to her as a gift. It might might be this one flying over the happy expressions of her brothers and sisters as they marvel at the return. I rubbed my happy For A sleigh to fear Trou- God own known Onlinedanger Goofy Child. I want to speak about joy when I look back on our journey. There were times we didn't give enough weight to Chica in the later stages your daily needs were so great Dressing you took longer bathing. You was a meticulous process. Your pick line needed to be flushed kept sterile lifting carrying you inquire me for someone else always to be present because awesome this. We sometimes overlook the fact that despite the physical challenges your mind kept growing. Your thoughts deepened and we might have missed the joy of your blossoming into a fully formed. Young person had did you not made sure to reveal it in unique linguistic ways. One time I was reading long email and I sighed mumble. Oh boy why do you say oh boy there are no boys here. It's just an expression Chico. Why don't you say oh girl another time? You asked for a glass of water. I warned you was cold. Cold water warm heart. Who said where did that? Come from you once asked Miss. Janine can I have two husbands and when she asked how many children do you want you shouted one. Why just one CHICA? Because that's all I can carry and one morning down in my office. My phone rang and it was you calling on the other line Mr Mitch. Do you want to come play. Klay Fluffy Cozy bed camp. I entered the bedroom to find you and misdemeanor beneath the covers when I crawled under. You said these these are the rules of fluffy cozy bed Cam. I am the boss Miss Janina the second boss. You can be the third boss now. Let's play if I could change anything from those moments GCA. It would be to stay in them a little longer. Immerse ourselves so we never forget. Forget I rarely use the word. Rejoice in daily life. But it is the word I'm looking for you. Rejoice revel in the funny funny business this quite something when I look at photos of those days to see your tireless crooked smile miniature golf although you could barely swing the club or on trips to the supermarket although you had to sit in the basket or visit to the state fair although I had to carry you from ride I to ride no matter how gross we got in the medical struggle. You were indefatigable when it came to fun to paraphrase Emily Dickinson. Because we could not stop for Joy. You kindly stopped instead. You are with your spirit looney mm-hmm one afternoon when you could no longer walk on your own. We were coloring at the kitchen table. Able I glanced at my watch and realized I was late. I stood up sorry cheek I have to go. No no you protested did stay and color CHICA. I have to work Mr Mitch. I have to play but this is my job Chica. No it's not you cross your your job is carrying me and I've thought about that sentence more than you could imagine. She can at the time. I laughed it off as you being. You're lovable Bossie Self But the more you weakened the more you needed me to transport you even across the room. The more I realized the wisdom of your words. Your job up is carrying me. That line became maybe the biggest lesson. Utah what we carry defines. It's who we are and the effort we make is our legacy. What you carry is what defines you can be the burden of feeding your family? The responsibility of caring for patients. Since the good that you feel you must do for others for the sins that you will not release whatever it is. We all carry something every day and for all your time with us as you so defiantly stadium Chica. My job was carrying you. My job was and is carrying your brothers and sisters in the orphanage. My job at turns out after so many years without them carrying children and it is the most wonderful weight to bear. We're GONNA do sled done the hair who's GonNa be your first sled right by yourself. Are you scared. Yeah but you're GONNA do it aren't you. Because you're brave right okay. Did you like it. This story was an excerpt read by Mitch Albom from his New Book Finding Chica. The music in this episode was composed by Maya Win and Allie Font but the digital sound design from Heidi boat. You can hear more of my on Apple Music spotify or wherever you prefer to stream your music by searching for Maya Wind. We also wanted to the team at Harpercollins and the team of the David Black Agency Ray prosser from WJR engineering them. Recording with Mitch as well as Carry Alexander from Mitch's Office story bound is mixed produced and hosted by me chewed brewer are executive producers. Jeff Umbro of the pod glamorous and Justin Alvarez Alvarez of lit up this show's theme was developed with the help of James Cook you can find his music under the name Green Table. WanNa tell us what you think of a show find us on twitter. Twitter at story bound pod or you can tweet at me. Directly at Judah. Brewery new episodes are released every Tuesday next week. We'll hear a story from later. You've you've never with original composition provided by Wisden and warm back Sonic universe.

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Hour 3: Mitch Albom

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This product contains nicotine nicotine, addicted chemical donlevatar. That's the shot you get at the end from guy, shooting nineteen percent from three. This. Who doesn't take very many of them has not made a three this year this calendar year this calendar year. Thank you. Good correction. That's an actual helpful correction. You got stugatz. Is that an unprecedented helpful correction from stugotz calendar year helped me and the audience, there was not simply a buzzard correction. It was a useful correction, this calendar year. Excellent work by used guts. I'm proud of you. Thank you. I mean, it's really not much. We set the bar that low. These live at our show with two guys on ESPN radio. My get up to Lorenzo that picture of Jack white with Greg Cody and see if Lorenzo in the next hour can get it on a television screen. Unlike that drew Brees video that I wanted this more. Let's just see if we can get something on television. Greg, Cody, one of his best friends is in the rock and tours and so well, I one of his one of his best friend's sons. Yes, I should say his best friend is his age and would not be in the rock on tour. I'm about to make a bold claim. Whoa. The second Sikora was better than the first. What's it was really good. You raved about the? I love the first. You got to see the five now I get the review. It did not. I thought this one was even more artistic though, was they set up the third one? I was really surprised because they went, they did it differently, and it's I would argue it's just as good at the very least go ahead and put it on the poll game at lebatardshow was the second Sakarov as good as the first Sicario Sicario. So Cario me is Tom Brady, correct. That football now is just about spacing and that it's like college football. It's not it's about angles and spacing. Yeah, there's something to that. I mean, you can't hit the quarterback as much as you used to. There's not as much pressure on the quarterback yet. They get a lot about angles and spacing. Yeah, that's that's pretty accurate while the guy that he's playing on Sunday night disagrees. I mean, we were talking about drew Brees earlier. The revolution and football is is just all these short passes, which are why the league wide average completion percentage has gone up like ten eleven percent in the last ten or twelve years as a previous revolution. There's now an evolution of that revolution. That's right. You're behind Greg, keep up. It's not the three yard passes anymore. Not from the teams that are winning well, but from the team, look at all the completion percentages, though you drew Brees is not throwing bomb. Oh, well, whatever they changed a lot over. The last couple of years is the single season completion percentage record was held by Brandon Weeden and soon thereafter held by Sam. Bradford like it doesn't mean anything completing seventy percent of your passes doesn't mean anything anymore because any guy who's out there is going to put up a twenty or twenty seven. But I think drew Brees is the only guy last couple of years who has a seventy percent completion percentage ado of easy only got today's NF. I don't think that's true. I think Weeden and Sam, Bradford are the single season holders of the record for completion percentage doesn't mean anything because they weren't throwing the ball down the field results, the record and how does we didn't qualify? Really did he play full sixteen games or at least the minimum. I mean, yeah, that's what you're saying is accurate. I mean, breezes nearly eighty percent right now and there are seven quarterbacks including Mitchell Trubisky, who are at seventy percent or over breezes nearly eighty percent. He's at seventy percents, Mitchell Trubisky. It's all about spacing. If you were better quarterback that offense would absolutely light things up because it gets people in space. And honestly, I, it increases a margin of error for someone who's not the greatest of most accurate of quarterbacks, but he's got a, it's it's seventy eight percent completion percentage. He has no interceptions. Well, this is the thing right one way or Sesing the legacy of drew Brees. You can just stop at. Nobody's ever played the position a good deal better like there is no such human being. It's that is the perfection of the position he is. He has mastered the craft. He just doesn't have the athleticism that he doesn't have the scheme that Brady has or the athleticism that Rogers has. But he he's, that is a craftsman. That's the highest that is the highest level of being able to play that position in his four games with Dallas when season Brandon Weeden completed seventy two and a half percent of his passes. Doesn't qualify for, but didn't Bradford then beat him than than Bradford. Bradford is second all-time. Wow. But you're right on the yards per attempt. Jared Goff, Jared Goff is averaging ten point five yards per attempt, and you go back like four years. There's not a single quarterback over ten yards per day. There are two teams in the league playing football differently than everyone else's playing football with the ability to stretch field drew Brees presently has three, the top five most accurate seasons of a quarterback, and that's not really going short. That's not drew Brees as game really. Well, that is that is the thing that you have to fear right now as you're looking at as you're looking at barring injury, we know who the two best teams in the NFL are. The thing that becomes a wild card, even though it's always a division winner is Tom Brady, but who are you going to see in the playoffs as a quarterback? Because you know that no matter how good the Rams are. They don't want to be playing, drew Brees or Roger. They don't wanna be playing seventy eight percent completion percents. You don't wanna see them and their ability to score thirty five points. Like if there, if those teams are going to get derailed, they're going to get derailed by a quarterback, not by a team, like Kansas City is not going to be derailed by Jacksonville. They're going to be derailed by a quarterback. I mean, clearly they're not going to be derailed by Jacksonville, even though I feel like Jacksonville, just missed so many opportunities here, but that's what's going to happen when he's your quarterback. Yeah, hey, could happen with Chicago too, but they got an inaccurate quarterback as well. Another thing about drew Brees is that he's, you know, he had Marcus Colston in a couple of pretty good receivers drew Brees has never had the elite Odell Beckham type. Oh, I think he's got one now though. Doesn't any Michael Thomasson? Well, the. Yeah. Now he does, but I mean throughout his career, Marcus Colston probably has been the best. He's head. Nah, I think Michael Thomas it. Certainly, Michael Thomas is he's ever had sex. I mean, that's for sure. If you're just joining the show and don't understand that jokes, do got says been saying for a while that Michael Thomas looked like he's good at sex. Does he not. He also had Jimmy Graham, that's during Jimmy Graham during the height of Jimmy grams powers you. What are you shaking your face at like? This was very good. Yes. At the height of Jimmy grams powers, you're talking about a top five tight end in the league. Are you in keep in mind? This is only the third season for Michael Thomas. Are you disagreeing that other than the emerging Michael Thomas that breezes never had the elite Odell Beckham. All agree with you. Exempt got in terms of running game right now, opens up the entire Kamara. He's got the skill guys here, but but like Thomas chimeras a late career guy for him. I mean, Thomas took to Josh Norman last night and they were beef in a little bit, Josh Norman, deleted some tweets, which led to Michael Thomas calling, Josh Norman, they goofball con artist. The the thing that you say though about this is this is what the best organizations do. And the shining example of it is the way that the patriots have worked around Tom Brady to help him age. So they get him Randy moss and then they get the first thing to fade on a quarterback is the deep ball accuracy, get him Randy, Randy moss, and they, they get him Corey Dillon. They've got him Josh Gordon, they revolutionized the tight end position by getting the best one that we've ever seen as you look at what's happening around the sport and how you help these guys age. He has now gotten to the point where he has mastered the position drew Brees is better at that job in his mind in his in his mind better than he's ever been an as he ages. They've gotten him the skill help. They have the skill help. He's never had. He's he's, he has not had. A running back like this. He has to. He has not had a running game like this. He had a pretty good rushing attack before Super Bowl, Thomas and Reggie Bush, which is a lot like this. It's not like this man Comorros it Kamar. You can make the argument that Kamar is valuable as anybody in the lead right now who's a non quarterback Kamara is Ben Todd Gurley. Kamara is a better back then than Pierre Thomas Reggie Bush, but that was nothing to sneeze at especially early on. It was pretty dynamic vice sneeze at it. I see that it listen to me Pierre Thomas. Bush. I seize on it, don't tell me to not sneeze on. Well, I just I just kind of disagree with your take because his entire time in New Orleans. These are been interchangeable parts. They let guys go pretty early on in their career when it got stuff left and they just replace him because I know they got the quarterback. I sneeze on it too. Can you for me? I'm terrible at fake sneezing, so mind. And can you tell I'm pretty better now? They wanted terrible, pretty solid. One more one more for me. I see your point. Wow. Oh, that was wall to do with that. To real. Bat, mitzvahs are expensive time for some ads. Let's go around the room, Chris. You go ahead and sees you sneeze at Pierre Thomas. Excellent. Excellent gamble. I need you to sneeze at Reggie Bush. Please. That two minutes out of here. That's not fair, ROY, ROY, UC's, Pierre Thomas plate, chew. You gotta be. You gotta be hard about the sneeze, ROY. Excellent. Thank you. You got one Cody. You got one. As you if you're a smoker, you know, switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes and e cigs. They just didn't deliver the satisfaction you expected, but jewel is different. It's not an e cigarette. It's vapor product that actually satisfies plus jewelers simple to use and there's no cigarette ash and no lingering odor as a smoker. You expect a certain nicotine experience, right jewel delivers give jewelry. Try check o. j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports switch and be satisfied. Yes, you can do both warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical donlevatar fascination in power rankings. In fact, I'm coming out with a power ranking for power rankings, which ESPN's NFL power ranking right now is debuting at number third on my list. Well, it's a good powering stugatz who's two and one on that list. This is where historic falls because it's a competing. It's a non ESPN entity. So we don't want to air it on this Hattie play airtime. VC's live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. The quote to w from Tom Brady is football was different than I think now in some ways, pro football is more glorified college football, maybe the transition is more similar is more similar game than what it used to be. When I first started, I think football now removing some of the physical elements of the game. It's more of a space game. You see a lot of college plays more in the pro game than what I remember when I started. That's how things have gone over the last bunch of years. Stu gods continues to wander around. These offices calling drew Brees compiler insulting him by calling him a compa compiler under regarding him by calling him a compiler. But let's go around the room here all of you, Chris top-five compilers of all time because compilers specific category, right? You can't be too great. You have to be. Really, really good, but not great. Right, really good, but you stuck around long enough with a numbers appear to be great. The negro brother. Oh, man, you stole. I did. I'm sorry. I was thinking, Phil Niekro. Go ahead. You'll have to come up with another Chris Winner, Tom negro your top five, compilers, number five, Chris, Jason Witten. Number four, Derek Jeter. A little insulting. He was probably better than that three. Dirk, nowitzki. No to Emmett Smith. Man hung around a while, come on man. It Smith was the best with for six years running. Literally. Number one, Chris cow Ripken. Now Billy's furious because his top five list has some redundancies in it. Billy your top five compilers of all time, Kenny Lofton. Four Nolan Ryan. Three drew Brees. Can move his way up. You can use way up longer. He plays a high on that list. Number two, Cal Ripken JR. And your number one compiler of all time, Billy Emmett Smith. You guys, you guys are now you're blaspheming against them. It Smith, we have the same one in Tucson, man, you guys, this is ridiculous. Put it on the poll was Emmett Smith, a compiler. You guys are disrespectful, ROY, your top five list of compilers number five, Lenny Wilkins. Number four, Brett farve. Number three emit Smith. Number two, Colorado junior. Number two. One zero will Chamberlain. Still. Chris, you gotta look some of this stuff up. Look up. Just look up some Emmett Smith stats for me, so I can tell you guys how disrespectful you're being Mike top five compiler spent much of the break on looking for Jack white photo with Greg Cody. So this is a bit of a rush list, and it's just all Texas Tech, quarterbacks number five, cliff Kingsbury. Number four gram Herrell. Number three, BJ Simon. Number two, sunny cumby. And this is weird. Number one is Emmett Smith. All right, Stu gods, you ready Cody. You got one or you got all right now, Matt, Greg Cote. He's top five list of sports compilers, number five, Greg, Greg, gore. Number four Bill negro. Number three, Gary Player. Number two, Yar Mary younger. Good, good. He's just playing to them Lila's. They're yours. Spent a lot of time in Europe. Number one, Dave Bing. Thing was Hank Aaron, a compiler. I mean, he seven on my list so it doesn't crack the top number five to God's Phil Niekro. Number four, God Peyton Manning. What do you mean? No. Number three, Nolan Ryan number two drew Brees. And the number one compiler of all time according to the mighty Stu gods is I tried not to write his name down, but my pen Mon allow it and it Smith. Mitch Albom is neck donlevatar Gregor you going to say anything or are you just gonna sit there checking the internet when when I have something to say, I say it what I was thinking of as you said that was that I think black history month is also split into two half months, which is terrible. That's not true. The first half in the second half of February stugatz. No, it's February into March yard. Don't let me step yard good contribution though. When you decided to talk that was good months, your Greg. I'm I'm like a dog with a bone on this. I'm wrong. Okay. This is live at our show with his two guards on ESPN. Radio. Always enjoy talking to this guy. Stu gods in full stugatz bloom just was muttering under his breath. This guy album people keep going heaven and they keep meeting. People just got some very successful books. Now, it's a Hetty play. Listen. I mean, you go to heaven, you meet five people that was so successful that he just keeps sending someone to have it and they keep meeting somebody that's not the way to play. The sequel to the five people you meet in heaven, his new book, the next person you meet in heaven. It's vailable now and I wanna talk to him about media and sports. Mike is shaking his headed Stu gods guys doesn't even understand why we'd be mad at him right now. Mitch. I'm sorry for that introduction. That's quite all right. No problem. I'm doing what I'm great. Thank you. What what do you make? I've been wanting to talk to you about the state of both sports media and media in general, because you're someone who grew up loving newspapers above all else before becoming an author and playwright and everything charitable person. What do you make of what's happened to journalism. Well, it's a big question is not what you and I got into, that's for sure. And newspapers have certainly been rendered, you know, basically commentary now because everybody don't need them to tell you the story. Everybody could find out the story and you know the hysterical now the than the loudest. Now the thought is usually pushed to the to the back and there's a lot of pack oriented journalism, there's a lot of advocacy oriented journalism, you know, we were trained. We were told just tell the truth, not take a side, but now it's you don't take aside, what are you doing in the media? So it's a different world now. Danny for sure. And so what do you make of that though? Like as as someone who holds onto too old fashioned principles in that regard when it comes to the journalism that you grew up with, how specifically as it applies to sports journalism where it's largely become commentary? Yeah, I, I don't like it. I mean, you know. Fairness is a is a pretty decent principle to try to aspire to much better than ambition or making a name for yourself. And so you know, when I read sometimes Dan, I'm sure you've seen these through that. They list the professions that are least respected, you know, and I was never surprised to see lawyers or politicians, but now you see journalists on and you know we're supposed to be the people who who, you know, keep those other ones honest. And when we're down in the same numbers as them, I think we're probably doing something wrong. You know what's funny about this because I do think of you as apart from this and yet on the original sports reporters, you birth? All of this. You guys. Opinion. Really. We're your first of all. We always wore suits and ties and we and we were not insulting and we didn't try to be the loudest person on the set. You know, I always very proud of that show for all the years that it ran that even when it began and even in when there were knockoffs outfit and so many other things and you were on it, you know, it was always supposed to be intelligent and never got down in the dirt at never gotten asked. He's never got personal, and I still think even with Iran today that it would it would hold that standard high. So yeah, I mean, maybe the idea of talking heads, but we didn't invent that either. You know that that that was around long before us. But this idea of just screaming over one another was never the sports report. Again, new book, the next person you meet and having it's available. Now, the sequel to the five people you meet in heaven where what's been the biggest surprise of your career? I know what well, I don't want to answer this for you. What has been the biggest surprise of your career? Well, Tuesdays with Morrie was without a doubt I was. As you know, Dan, and you were just starting out then and, and you know, I've been a sports writer in Florida and in Detroit, and that was really all I ever words to do. And I was ESPN and doing radio sports, and I was working two thousand hours a week, and then we'll college professor of mine was on Nightline talking about what it was like to die from Lou Gehrig's disease. And I happen to see him went out to visit him. Then want again that again, and again ended up writing a book to pay his medical bills. And even though I had had a pretty transformative experience with him sitting by his bedside watching die career wise, I thought, well, I went to to pay his medical bills and then I'll go back to sports. Right. And that'll be my, you know, think again, and then stead it took off and became something that nobody ever expected at least all make. And it enabled me to have this different worlds in different opportunities. And I always say that the difference between pre Tuesday's of Mauri and post Tuesdays with Morrie was when people used to see me in an airport, pre Tuesday's, Maury. Yell, you know, hey, who's going the Super Bowl? And you could say, you know, patriots and people walking. And then after who says more than the airport and say, hey, my my, my wife just died of cancer. In the last thing we did was reading book together, can I? Can I talk to you and you can't say patriots and keep walking. You know, you. Stop and, and I've had that happen to me every day if I life since multiple times sometimes in days. And so when you hear that many sets stories and you hear that in any meaningful stories and and uplifting stories, it changes your world then. And that's why I've spent so much of my life in books about that and and you know, and charitable work and things like that, even though I still enjoy sports and and writing and commenting on it, it's just not my whole world anymore. Mitchell, Greg guy. I'm ashamed. I'm sorry. And I'm now ashamed to myself or making fun of you at the starting to second. I'm going to let myself out now. Right? So so the transformative parts, Mitch. Like how, how were you transformed by sort of the the spiritual changing of your life? Well, I think when you have somebody die in front of you and then you're spending a lot of time and hospice care visits and go in a university speaking of kids who are getting starting out and looking for their own Borys. And then you know, other books that I've written have taken me also alongside people who are sort at the end of their life, and you start thinking about having the writings, you know, fables novels about heaven. You're moving in different circles. You know, you're, you're thinking of yourself and now you know, over the years as you mentioned, I've gotten very involved with charity in Detroit where I live particular and in Haiti, I have an orphanage that I operate in Haiti. Then on there every month, like go through Miami quite frequently and you know, go to Haiti and take care of forty, seven orphaned children. You know, every month you pretty much happier perspective. Turned Alice put it this way. The j. giant AC yelled it. I just heard on the five past isn't the top thing on my mind. The way it might might have been, you know, before you just have to sort of balance things out. And so I think mostly it just changes your perspective and that's okay. It's healthy to have your perspective changes. You get old well and in a pretty extreme way because I got imagine that the work you do in Haiti, which is substantive. I got imagine that is that is as dispiriting as it is fulfilling. Yeah, it can be. But when you see the lives that you're affecting, you know, it's it's more upbeat than down. It's hard to see all the poverty for sure, but it's when you know that you can help change these kids lives and the big deal. That's that's kind of informed as this latest book that I wrote to some degree because you know, it's also a book about how you just sort of one another. And sometimes I think these kids in eighty. If I, if I don't take them in, they have such a different life of of, you know, near starvation and no education and who knows what they're going to become. And all of a sudden one simple acting you take them in your feeding them and teaching them, and and they're growing up and they're going to go to college. It's changes everything, and that's kind of don't silly. But I mean, that's sort of the idea of the five people you meet and having to work the next person. You never know kind of premises that you'd never know what you're affecting at any given point. It may spend five minutes with somebody and change her life forever. I wrote a column from any reminding about this morning the other day about Dave Anderson. You know, Dave. For the New York Times. So people don't know this. I never really shared it with too many people, but they Anderson was the reason I've gotten the sports writing because when I was here in New York around the ham right now, I was a starving musician. I was looking for pick up money and I got a, you know, a fifty dollars a week thing to write little features for a TV shopper magazine, which is just like TV guys instead of TV, but they one little feature on the cover and they assign me. Dave Anderson would never met, and he met me. I call him up and he agreed in meet me at a deli and spend an hour with me talking about sports writing, which I didn't know anything about, and he was so nice and so kind for my stupid questions. And I sort of bumbling questions if you know by the time I, my interview with him was over. I remember leaving thinking, you know, I get outta music, that's that would be kinda cool thing. I'd like to be like him, you know, that sounds like full job and he's a good guy. And eventually that's what I did. And years later when I ran into a motor press box, I saw him and. He looked at me. He said, I guess I couldn't talk you out of it and not only that you're the reason I'm here. He said, now you would have gotten your any out and and then he's high. And you know, he's probably never really realizing how much he it affected my life or an how many other people were affected by my life being affected by his life. So you know, that's sort of these books about heaven that I've that I've written these two now fifteen years apart. That's the premise that you just don't know who your turn around and if heaven is really what it's supposed to be, we'll find out when we get there. All the influences we had that we didn't realize we were here the next person you meet in heaven is available. Now it's his new book, Mitch Albom with us on ESPN radio, Mitch. This was a Super Bowl, distant, Super Bowl. I can't even remember the city. The media launch was in a hotel ballroom. All of a sudden I hear piano playing in its Mitch Albom at the piano singing, love potion number nine. Well. This is. If I gave you like you've had an amazing career, an amazing career, you know, playwright and everything else. You know, bestselling author, if I made you and just allowed you to tourism musician instead and. And a decent band that just is across twenty five years. Do you do you die. You go, it's all it's Olympia, pushed across the table, put it on, put it on thirty three black and and and and send that over my way. Absolutely do it. In all honesty, I knew get to do it now and then with Dave Barry and some other people in the rock bottom remainders. But you said a good fan so that would disqualify that we're, we're, we're pretty terrible, but they is that correct? Just yes, that's sir memory. You remember then ritually. Oh yes. I remember sure. We close. Time, Tony Kornheiser was a regular in that that's a singing and Alan Greenberg. There's no other religious and other writers from long arts pander, and we would say, all these refined piano and we would sing. He's with the point sports writers every single Super Bowl, and it's amazing. I'm there's no words to love potion. Number nine. I can't remember where they left their Clark teas, but they know everywhere. It's a love potion number. Not men always good catching up with you. Thank you for making the time, sir. All right. Thank you. Talk to you. Take care. Now. I fought from Geico. Motorcycle. It took fifteen minutes to purchase the gas station egg salad. Eat the gestation egg salad. And regret the gas station egg salad. As you presented numbers to the board. Dwed insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen eggs, Ellen minutes does what your motorcycle insurance to gyco. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance donlevatar how much career does Greg Cody have left just over three hours very little and believe me, Stu gods. If my career were around of golf, I would say I have teed off on the eighteenth. I'm end the famine, rough man away in the room. You say of teed off, you got four or five shots? Well, six or seven. You're about to take a drop. I it into. Mondo bounce into the lake, and I'm trying to find it. VC's live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. Everybody around here was blaspheming against the career of Emmett Smith by reducing him to a compiler. Chris Cody. If you've been looking up Emmett Smith stats that will explain to the audience, how idiotic it is to refer to him as a compiler is too good to be merely a compiler. I have a eighteen thousand three hundred and fifty five yards. That's most ever one hundred and sixty four touchdowns in what a million seasons and four thousand four hundred and nine Russia's most here. Here's what you need to do. He should have retired in one thousand nine hundred nine again, that's what he should have retired since nineteen ninety nine until two thousand four. What he did retire. He accumulated four thousand three hundred ninety two yards that really shouldn't so subtract those numbers from the totals and then go from there all time. Now he's four exactly compiler. Lets. Let's is that the grim reaper I'd just. Oh, great. That's right. Greg, Cody needs to go to the bucket of death here. But in the interim, let's play a montage of Emmett Smith and his time at ESPN. Blow out. We're boom. When you talk about humble pie, you hear the patriots promote humble pie and they happen motorhome apo- all year long. A slice of that humble pie pies having their building to have short term memory, which means don't worry about the game. We just one on the team that we just blew out a blow blown out. Let's think about what we need to do going forward and they had blown out all his done is led his team to nine row wins. He has his team in a position right now. If they win today, they can possibly go into the role of making the peers here. Frank overhead, thirteen cares now thirteen cares for seventy two yards. Now, the reason why he did get any more is because you didn't get enough. I down ale, coup JJ show. Put you back. I'll tell you what they better. They better get their minds right because they will be on the cover of insane magazine. This consistency playing a team. You will get you completely blowed out. The Rams are not very good manning had been given the rights of passage. The patriots defense was one of the weakest of the team, but what happened the night, the strength of the papers team got the buckled. Blown out. Guillermo put it on the poll. Would you read insane magazine. I would. I would. The way you take away 'em it's twenty eight touchdowns since one thousand nine hundred ninety shooter retired and that puts it takes him. He's I all time rushing touchdowns. That would make them second. Hey, stole it from dania Tomlinson really did. Why are you taking away? Close thousand yard seasons. Let's do the bucket of death plays. Greg. Cody has to go to the buck is a death. If you're unfamiliar with what this is it is a bucket filled with death. So now Greg Cody will reach into it. And he will pull out something a helmet that corresponds to some sort of shame if it loses as to get a glove to put on. Okay. What happened to the budget on this show? Let's move it along Cowley Ramadan. Israeli really getting in there, aren't you. Pick a helmets. What's that mean? All green, dark, green, ten, but the lebeau helmet as. All right, my brother, my brother is, yeah, he's an artist. He doesn't know anything about sports, whatever team he picks us to win the next time I did that. He picked a baseball team. We had to wait till next spring to find out what that's right. Solid strap wrong with it. Good thing here waiting for the Boston. Red Sox play a spring taming game. We got the swap, he's got the swap. Okay. Well, Dan, you want to tell them what that means that means, what would you like me? I would like it to me. I would like it to me. I can steal somebody's helmet who's got. So go ahead and draw another day. Another helmets. What do you got? Come on? Let's go coded. What's the helmet you want there? What do you got patriots. Visuals. Hard show on ESPN radio. We live in a racist country.

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Mitch Albom: ...how lives and losses intersect

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Mitch Albom: ...how lives and losses intersect

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The most successful US hardcover first adult novel ever, and now Mitch has written a sequel to the five people you meet in heaven. It's called the next person you meet in Heaven Mitch thanks so much for joining us today. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me on your program talk to us a little bit about the next person you meet in heaven. Well the five people mean having was published fifteen years ago, and the idea of that was there was an old man who thought he didn't matter in life. You never did anything you never went anywhere he worked as A. Maintenance worker at an amusement park and on his eighty third birthday, he dies trying to save a little girl from a ride accident a big cart falls. It's crashing down and she's trapped under the platform. He pushes her out of the way she saved and he he's killed. He goes to heaven and he meets he finds out that the first stage of having is that you meet five people who were in your life, some of whom you might have known some of whom you might not even remember. All of them played some significant part in changing your life and your in changing there's and by the end of his five people, he finds that this meaningless life that he thought he had led was actually extremely meaningful and had had affected. All kinds of people in all kinds of ways not the least of which, of course was the girl who he saved and throughout the course of the book. He can't remember his last moments on earth and he can't remember because everything went black did he save the girl or not? So the question that keeps getting asked over and over did I say the girl that I saved the girl only at the very end as he find out. Well this new book the next person you mean having picks up a little more than fifteen years later with what happened to the little girl that he saved. And it follows her as she is now an adult and she herself. Remembers going to the park and remembers coming back from the park injured but can't ever remember what actually took place you sort of blocked it out. So she has her own sort of the memory thing on it, and then in this book she dies tragically when she's younger goes to heaven and meets her five people one of whom is Eddie from the first book. Saves her and eliminates to her how his life was changed on account of her and hers on account of him. So it picks up you know the characters from the first book, but it's also a whole sort of different story with her as a center. Readers. Should I read the five people you meet in Heaven before reading your new book the next person you made in heaven well, I can tell you I've never written a sequel before. So that was like my number one question. When I decided to write one is okay. How does this work I wanted to go to like the Harry Potter people and the and Jack reacher people and I it was how much do you have to tell about the other book before you get to this because I've never done it all of my books have been sort of single single story. I think the trick is that you have to write a book that stands on its own. You can't assume that somebody will go read the other one. So yes, you can read the next person you meet in heaven without having read the five people you mean have been and it'll make perfect sense and you'll just think, wow, this is what an amazing idea. And you go to heaven and you meet five people. I wonder if anyone else ever came up with that and then one day, you'll read the first book and you'll say, Oh, this guy came up with fifteen years earlier. So yes, you can read the second one without it. If I had my druthers, they're both short books they're barely two hundred pages and and very small book you could read both of them in the time it takes to read you know like a couple of Tom clancy chapters. So really if you wanted to read both of them, it would probably work the. Key theme in both of these books is how lives and losses intersect. Can you talk more about that? Well Yeah I. You know that's a big part I think of. What we don't understand about our value in life. You know we're constantly measuring ourselves with the big thing. Did I get a big job promotion that I make a ton of money? You know what about who I married or you know how many kids I have or what my job is? We, forget that every little interaction that we have on earth has some kind of effect. So in the first book, for example, Eddie was a little boy and was playing baseball in in the street and a ball over his head. He ran out into the street ran in front of a car. The car swerved missed him. He ran off to get the ball and never thought about it again. But the driver of the car happened to be person who is very weak and nervous and almost hitting this child since this driver of this car into a heart attack in the heart attack killed him and and he never knew about it when he was a kid and and never found out about until he got to heaven. Well, how many things do we have that happened with us all the time. You know the famous sliding doors thing if you missed the if the door's closed on you on the train and you know you have a whole different life on account of it because instead of making that train, you meet somebody on the platform who changes your life and etc. Well, that happens all the time. So I don't think there are random acts. I don't think they're a little accidental things that don't mean anything I think it all kind of adds together and that's the great Mr Lives. We always wonder well, what was it about? How did it make sense? So I always thought well, if heaven really is a place where. Your desires and needs or finally met one of those needs would be to explain. What went on down here. So to speak and that was the explanation of how all these little things played together and the character Eddie is based off of your own Uncle Eddie and I was reading that your Uncle Eddie told you your first story, the afterlife what did he say and how did that? How did that impact you? Not, only impact in me became the framework for the book. So he was A. World War Two veteran just like Eddie in the book He also felt he never mattered never did anything never went anywhere and he used to tell this story every Thanksgiving about this night that he was rushed to open heart surgery and the doctors put them on the operating table and somewhere in the middle of the operation, he felt his soul I guess rise out of his body. And hover above the bed and Look down on the whole operation and he said he saw all of his dead relatives, all the people in his family and external family who had died before him, we're waiting at the edge of the operating table for him. and. Of course as a kid, you say, wow, what you do oncle in. Salty guy was. So what I do I told them get the hell out of here. I'm not ready for any you yet you know. Fairly he's scared them right back to heaven because they disappeared he floated back into his body and he lived for you know a number of years after that. But for me because he wasn't some distant psychic or something like that he was a relative you know I loved him I adored him and if he said it, it had to be true. So I always believed and still do. that. That's what happens when you die. You know that that there are people your loved ones or are there waiting for you and so I took that idea and said, well, what if they're waiting? What if it's not just your loved one what if these people who you had five seconds or a minute or a day or an hour, and and you had this profound effect on them and they were waiting to sort of explain that to you, and that became the framework for both five people you meet in heaven and now the next person you mean. Our nobody told me conversation continues in just a minute after we tell you about better help online counseling. You know you're not alone if in these times of uncertainty, there are issues that are interfering with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals. We've certainly experienced that ourselves if you have to better help online counseling is there for you assessing your needs and matching you with your own licensed professional therapist better. Help, allows you to connect with your therapist in a safe private, convenient and affordable online environment you can start communicating and under twenty four hours. 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As nobody told me listener, you'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash nobody join over one million people taking charge of their mental health again, that's better help h. e. l.. P. Dot com slash nobody better help dot com slash nobody. And I love how in the new book in the next person you meet in heaven. Limit. It to people any meets her old dog Cleo in human form in the new book and I love how you acknowledged that animals have a sole. Decision to include an animal as a character. Well, I love animals myself but I've had know wonderful dogs myself who has been a big part of my life and even more than me I know a lot of people who for whatever reason maybe they didn't have children or they didn't get married or their kids are gone moved away but animals start to play a huge huge part in their lives and and they they take care with them and they can take pictures around on their iphones and they show them and I. You. Know. I it can't be that. These living creatures means so much to us here on earth and yet when we got to have and it's just like they didn't exist. You know just us down here. So she meets you're right CLEO and he doesn't know it's her at first. It's a it's an old woman because dog years you know the age and all that and and eventually this old woman says I am I'm Cleo you know and she says we'll wait till you can't be my dog we're communicating and and she says, well, didn't we communicate when we were on earth together and and and all these things that she realizes well yeah, it's not so unusual to be. Meeting some creature that meant so much to you and your life, and at one point as you point out, she says the all souls in heaven goes through this and and he says to her wait a minute. So you're saying animals have souls and clear looks at her. You know very almost insulted insists will why wouldn't they? Really. Why wouldn't they? Why are we're all? If you believe we're all God's creatures in some way or whatever. Then why are we so special that we got the souls and they don't. So so I thought that that was different and I'm glad that you noted that I'll I'm kinda braced for how people are going take that or not I, you know. You don't know until the book comes out or are they gonNA go come on it's a dog you know or they're gonNA say yeah that's great I would love to meet my dog in heaven. So I was really special and I just have a feeling that people are GonNa really relate to that. That's how I hope. I, hope I get to meet my animals. There are plenty of them. What is your goal? When you write a book What do you want the reader to take away from it? I think to evaluate their own life and and and maybe just examined How Precious The small things are and and how relationships that we have in to not. You know my first book was Tuesdays. With Morrie. It was a nonfiction book in that Book Mile Professor who was dying from LS. Sat with me and tried to teach me even already in my thirties. You would think I might've known some of this stuff, but I was slow learner. Tried to teach me what mattered and what didn't end of course that was a very seminal experience for me. I wrote a book to pay his medical bills. It wasn't supposed to be a book, but it became one and it really changed my life and I've always looked back to the lessons that he tried to teach me then that hopefully I learned at least some of them and and see if I can incorporate them in the books that I write. Because at one point he said to me, you know what? What do you do for your community? What do you do for other people and? I said, what do you mean you need to? Charities and things I said. All right. Yeah and I said I write checks and he said, well, anybody can write a check. You have been given a voice and that voice reaches a lot of people and you need to use that voice for more than just aggrandizing yourself and that really stuck with me and. I tried to do that in writing Tuesdays with Morrie, which was just there to pay his medical bills I mean that was the whole purpose of book, and then when I had the opportunity when I was given the opportunity to write another book and write a novel I, still had the same kind of thing like I don't want to write a. Bright a thriller not that there's anything wrong with thrillers or anything like that. It's like I felt like I owed. I owed Maury my success in terms of being asked to write a novel I should at least honor his memory requests use my voice for something more than just. You know making myself successful and so I tried to think of teams that. Matter to people and that if you read a book about them a novel about them, you you examine. Things or maybe think about things differently, which is what more he made me do and in the case of the five people can have an end. The next person you meet in heaven it's that the. The things that we think are are. Are bringing us down in life like Eddie. Thought he was a nobody because he never did a lot of things and Anne in this book. The little girl who grows up she thinks everything she does is a mistake because her life has been a series of mishaps everson the accident that happened and other things happened and she just doesn't get it right and I'm sure you know people like this who just like everything I try it just goes bad. Why does it never work out for me and? You know sometimes, that is how it's working out for you. That is how it you're learning. You're there you know to to experience those things. It'd be better as a result of them. We just don't look at it that way. So I wanna both of these books to sort of be you know instead of having the die and go to heaven to have these little things explain to you maybe maybe you know there was something I could write that will get people to think about it while we're here and we can do something about. Our nobody told the conversation continues in just a minute after we tell you about one of our favorites sponsors, Air Med care network much like our extraordinary guests on nobody told me many Air Med care network members have their own inspiring stories to share. They never thought the unthinkable would actually happen to them. But when it did, they were relieved to have their A. M. C. N. Air Med care network membership if a medical emergency arises air, Care Network provides members with world-class air transport services to the nearest appropriate hospital with no out of pocket expenses. How many times do you think people could have used that benefit during? 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I read the five people you meet in Heaven out of very low point in my life and it really made me have hope that everything works out for a reason and everything will make sense at some point even if I couldn't see it at the time, what advice would you have for someone who is dealing with depression or feeling really bad about themselves who might pick up your book? Well. First of all, depression is a very serious thing and if you're talking about clinically depressed and this is this is serious things that require somebody far smarter than me. if you're talking about. Feeling bad feeling blue. You know there's There's a moment actually where where Cleo, the dog that you're referencing. Says to Annie in the book That you can realize How. Good. You have it the minute you realize how much need there is in the world outside of your own and you know that she was describing how dogs. Naturally gravitate to human being who are crying, which is a true fact that if there's two people in one or crying was happy the dog will go to the one who's crying because it's just a dog nature to be empathetic and and if we had that Morris human beings to realize that there's always somebody sadder, there's always somebody in in worse shape there's always somebody who could use your help. Even as bad as you might feel about yourself you can brighten their day. You would then. You would then have your own day bright and so the simplest thing there is no simple answer to being depressed or being down. But what I found when I find myself in those movies that you know I just go do something that or get involved in something where someone has it worse than me and I have an orphanage in Haiti for example, that I operate and I go there every month and I have found is coming on nine years. Now I have found that ever since I've been going there I don't have. Depression, you know I I, see how the starvation there and the and the and the disease there and and and how we can at least make a difference in in we have forty seven kids in their lives and how some of them wouldn't be alive. It's not for the orphanage and I just my problems fade you know it doesn't I don't have them doesn't mean I don't think about it. I just don't let them take full control of me because I'm able to see on. A monthly basis every for three or four days every month people who have it, who who would who would give anything to have my problems so I think it's just a little bit of perspective on you know the needs of others versus yourself and you'd be amazed at how could you can actually end up feeling your work really resonates with so many people on so many levels what kinds of comments do you hear from people whose lives have been impacted by your writing? I mean. I'm I'm embarrassed because I think they're giving me too much credit. You know they say things like Oh. That changed my life or that book I came came all you just said it a couple minutes ago came along at a certain point in my life and really changed my outlook or you know and I'm very, very grateful for that I never take credit for that I always feel and I always say look these things were in you before you read my book I I'm not that powerful North my writing maybe something I wrote triggered something or loosen something and it became free and therefore you you know did what you were GONNA do Anyhow Sometimes I'm I'm really pleased if for example, people read Tuesdays with Morrie and they'll say to me, you know after I read your book I contacted my old teacher. I haven't talked to in twenty five years, and now you know visit regularly that's action. You know that's that's actual. Activity and you can say, wow, you know helped bring people together or you know I I wasn't talking to my brother for years I realized life's too short after I read the five people who have been and I called them and You know we're back together. Now we're until there's lives that's wonderful and if you can be part of that and that's all I am just a part of that process I I don't have as I say any kind of magic. Words or whatever that get people to do. But sometimes I've been like that too I've read books that have You know spawn IBM me and I act on the idea and and I'm better for it. So those are the wonderful kinds of things that I hear and I just consider myself You know blessed to be in a position to even write anything that would move people like that, and and also teaches you to take your obligation very seriously about what you right because you know people reading carefully so. You know, don't be flipping and try not to be. Mitch I'm a millennial and I feel like my generation is so caught up in trying to get a new job position, a new title and being on social media all the time and these things seem so important to everybody. But keep him of your books is that those aren't the important things? How can we find out who we really are beyond these titles? Try living without one. Yeah. I mean at some point if you wanna see what life is like without social media, get off of it you know if you want to see what life is like what you're not chasing something at work. quit. More more taught me way way back He said if you don't like the culture don't buy you don't have to, and this is also something traveled teaches you you know sometimes if you stay in one city or stay in one place, you kind of think like, well, where would I be without social? How could I possibly survive without my work? And then you go someplace else see at the same moment that you are. So wrapped up in getting that facebook post out there or or getting you know responding on twitter or or letting everybody know how important job is right at that very moment. There's you know a billion people in other places doing completely different things and they're still breathing air. And they're still eating and they're still sleeping and they're still walking around and there are so many different ways to lead your life that that are that are happening right at the moment that you're leading it. So it's not. You don't have to take my word for you know if you could just snap your fingers going some of those cameras on online. That show the world someplace else you realize. Well, wait a minute. This isn't the only way to be. There are many many many many many ways to be, and if I'm not being satisfied by these things, I'm not feeling good about all this activity I'm doing maybe WANNA try a different way and more. He said that back in the seventies and. And he was right then and he's just as right if not more. So now Mitch our show is called nobody told me and we always ask our guests. What's your nobody told me lesson and you can take this anywhere. You want. You know what is it? The nobody told you about writing about living in dying or about being an extremely successful author. That's a great question and you have a wonderful show just based on that premise alone boy boy talk about her being able to explore the world to a single question I have found I'll answer. In, contemporary fashion because of where I am now I have found nobody told me. What it was gonna be like when all the older people in my life who I used to go to for wisdom or gone, and I was going to have to be the one. To come up with the answers on my own and to advise people who are younger than me. Somehow. Even. Though intellectually you know it. You always kind of think that there's going to be you know your parents or somebody was older wiser that you'll be able to go to, and I've lived long enough to both of my parents have gone more. He's gone the old people clerics that I wrote about in in in have a little face are gone. And you know you just don't have. The wisdom in your life anymore that you used to think you were always going to be able to turn to, and then it's a test see. Well, how much Of what they gave you? You and how much of it is inside you that you can now employ and give someone else I I remember rabbi giving a sermon many many years ago when I was too young to even really comprehend. He talked about. his his last older relative and uncle of his had died and when he was at the funeral. As he stood over the grave he said to him. So he looked around the family and he realized he was the oldest one still left living. And he said I'm next. And that realization that you know logically than he was the next one to go changed everything in his life and and while I'm not quite there chronologically in terms of like all the people that I used to look to for help or guidance for wisdom I'm there now and nobody told me how lonely that was going to be and how. How much wish that you had spent even more time talking call those people and learning from them because when they're gone, they're gone. I. Think that's absolutely a fantastic answer. One of the best dating we've ever had on the show. Yeah. I can certainly relate to that I mean when you realize, Hey, it's your turn at bat yeah. It's scary. Isn't it? Yeah. Yeah and you're looking around for older people and and the the mentors and so many of 'em Argonne. Yeah. Well, in that case, you know I guess that's what it really means to grow up. And I'm going to have to learn how to grow up. I knew I was going to have to sooner or later. Avoid it. Long as I could. But. We'll Mitch. We WanNA. Thank you so much for being on our show. Today you've been listening to Mitch Albom whose latest book is called. The next person you meet in heaven and he's got a fabulous website at Mitch albom Al Be Om Dot Com I'm Laura Owens I'm Jan Black and you've been listening to nobody told me thanks so much for joining us

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 292 - The New England Patriots Being the New England Patriots!

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 292 - The New England Patriots Being the New England Patriots!

"The. Winning Journalists New York Times fillers topic out of bounds. No opinion left unsaid an institution for Sports, talk and information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Luba and Mitch Albom. Album of the Detroit free press I know him. I Mike loop again, MLB DOT COM NY Daily News, and we are here for the Monday sports fours. Mr Ryan is on vacation. We we, we give him a vacation and and he goes and does things we don't. We don't even carry guns. And All all Mitch and I were thinking. Last night. On a quiet week in sports, we have the usual. You know of a virus stories, and we'll talk a little bit about The NBA later was thank you New England patriots. Mitch they. Not really the Gift Mitch, are they not the gift that keeps on giving and they give on Sunday nights, which means Monday mornings. So we really appreciate. Thank you, thank you. Cam Newton has joined or reportedly is joining the Patriots for a one year deal at somewhere and Mike I blinked three times what I saw this around seven million dollars seven and a half million dollars. You Get Cam Newton Free Year Bill, Belichick Mr Value Mr. Not only signed great players I. Sign Them for really low money has just gotten a guy who who when he played against the Patriots a couple times gave them a really hard time. Some people think that had something to do with it, but this elevates the Patriots at least in conversation Mike to a whole new level, reality is going to have to do with health and a lot of other things, but in terms of conversation they. They went with from jared stem. I can't pronounce that last name up we. As, their. Starting quarterback replace Tom Brady to a guy. Everybody is at least heard of and seen in Super Bowl and Cam Newton. How do you think this changes? Though well and Mitch? We have been doing about this for months, and all we could come to. The closure was that maybe he couldn't throw anymore? Obviously, the Patriots determined that he can throw and he if he's anything close. To what he was not that long ago when he was the MVP and took the panthers to the Super Bowl, and had a bad day, and they were set up to be the next thing, and he was set up to be the thing in pro football vs anything close to that the Patriots went right back to being the favorites in the AFC east, and they put themselves right back into the super. Bowl conversation and Mitch I'm thinking that. If he josh mcdaniel, who could even you know had worked with Tim Tebow and made him kind of functional in Denver if he's got something to work with here. The entire landscape of the ASC maybe outside of Kansas City just change. Let's face it. The world is looking at this as Bill Belichick just robbed everybody, blind and Bill. Belichick somehow going to make it back to a super bowl again. Damn him, even after losing Tom Brady, but that is ascribing a magical talent to bill belichick that apparently at least different coaches in GM's in Carolina didn't have. And I'm not sure that I'm buying into that Cam Newton. Is available was available for reason Mike. I mean it wasn't like there weren't other teams that need a quarterback and they went. To play to Gibbs. Yea We play two games last year, but he was injured two years before that and no one is ever sure if he's come all the way back to Cam. Newton is an absolute exercise in inconsistency. Take a look at just his record over the years that he's been in football, right? It reads like a like a like a ping pong ball, going back and forth over the net starts in two thousand eleven, six and ten seventy, nine two losing seasons, then winning season, then losing season, then big winning season dental, losing season, then winning season, then losing season, then barely in a season he has never strung together to winning seasons in a row in his career. He is highly. Inconsistent, shall we say when he plays? You can see him go on streaks where he hits everybody in stride, and of course he's always got great running ability, and then you'll see him. Throw over guys heads. Consistently this isn't just when he couldn't plant his foot. Because of the list, frank injury that is the latest thing is over the course of his career, so you're getting a thirty one year old guy with inconsistency and the big question here is, does something happened when you put on a patriots uniform that takes away your faults and elevates your. Skills and Mike. The truth is even though everybody feels that Bill Belichick. Does that the truth is Bill Belichick has been able to do that because he had Tom Brady as his quarterback. We one of those years that everybody said he's a magic man. Now he's going to have to prove if it was Tom, brady making everybody better. All those running backs and tight ends and wide receivers, or it was really Bella. Checks guidance of Brady because he's going to get a chance at the quarterback position match. First of all. We're both in agreement on this. You can't not do this if you're the Patriots I. Mean this deal at that money whatever incentives they have added. You can't pass this up. Okay, you're risking one year against by the way jarod stood him and Brian Hoyer Okay so if Cam Newton? Maybe even throwing left handed is healthy in any other way. He's going to be the Patriots quarterback this year. Okay, you start there and Mitch you're. You're completely right about how inconsistent it? We were blinded by the light of the MVP season. Other than that he's throwing for four thousand yards in a passing league once in his career once, and he's only thrown for more than thirty touchdown passes in that magical year, so yeah, I mean he never really became except for that one shining year. What we thought he was going to be when it came out of Auburn but The possibilities here intrigue me of a completely different looking patriots offense after all the years when Brady dropped back in the pocket, and threw the ball around and dumped the ball up and Mitch maybe the most important number here for the Patriots and. Is this what you just said. Thirty one years old as opposed to a guy as great as he is. Who's going to be forty three by the time he sees it up for the bucks this year right well. Look at the moves that the Patriots have made. To this, and you'll see that. They seemed to be gearing up and understandably so for run season they they drafted a couple of tight ends. They spent a lot of money on their offensive line. They buoyed up fullbacks and and and Sony Michelle and other people are going to be counted on to run the ball well. Doesn't that make sense? With Cam Newton who can also by the way run the ball and run it still effectively, and when you have those those weird motion offense offensive plays where you're not sure. If the guys rolling out a passing, and then he just takes off. Cam Newton's great at that stuff, so here's where I think ballot check. Could work some magic. He's a very good offensive mind. Obviously, and if once he takes a look, and and by the way that's not gonNA happen for a little while then they sign this Guy Mike think about this. They signed him with nothing more to go on a bunch of instagram videos. They have not seen him unless they're doing something sneakier whatever they can't work them out, so they had to do this via phone zoom. Zoom and videos and things like that, and so they don't know what they're getting, but let's say he starts to season mobile, and and physically healthy. This gives belichick time to design offense around running and his particular skills, and if he successful and by the way, Ron Rivera wasn't always successful at getting Cam Newton to rain his game in a little bit, you know not just go for it because he thinks he can on certain. Certain plays, and then overthrows take a look at over the course of his career, his touchdown to interception rate, and it's bad or even. When he came into the league was twenty one to Seventeen Nineteen to twelve, twenty, four to thirteen eighteen to twelve, the best year ever had when he was fifteen and one, and they went to the Super Bowl was the only year that it was. It was something to know at thirty five. Five to ten, then it went right back in nineteen and fourteen, twenty, two and sixteen, twenty, four and thirteen, these are numbers that more than half of significantly more than half of the amount of touchdowns. You throw you throw interceptions. That's bad and you will not have that and win with a bill belichick system, so he has got to get him to stop. Making throws because he thinks I'm Cam Newton I can do this. And just make the safe throws, which is what he did with Brady on a lot of a lot of the stuff, a lot of shorter passes and things like that, and so if he can get him to change his mindset. And by the way why wouldn't Cam Newton want to change mindset? Because the old one hasn't been working for him the last few years, then they have locked into something huge, and the only big problem. Mike becomes the fact that they only sign him for one year, and if they don't have him on the the what are they? Call the tag rule which I would if I'm Cam? Newton's agents. There's no way I'm allowing that to be part of the deal. Then he can split after this year. He's going to cost a lot of money but for one season. This is almost risk-free. Yeah, I was reading, Bill Barnwell at. ESPN. Who's someone you just have to pay attention to on the League and he gave the deal and a modest okay, and he says while the Patriots aren't incurring much financial risk by sending Newton. There's an opportunity that the cost dropped this great ever slightly, but but what he's saying is until it became obvious. Halfway through the season that there was. A clear problem with his shoulder. His played pretty well, okay, he was playing pretty well and Mitch. The blueprint you just gave for the Patriots Office. That is the one that makes the most sense. Hand the ball off. Do some running yourself and. As you suggested, get the ball out of his hands as quickly as possible I. Don't know, but one of the examples wh when you say too brittle. Taking to many hits, okay, maybe he has, but one of the examples. The barnwell uses is look what Ryan Tannehill did last year. Okay, would anybody have thought that? After the way he got beat up in Miami, did he was ever GonNa be the player. He was for for the titans well. If Cam Newton who at his best was a much better quarterback in a much better football player than Tannahill? Can do something like that. For the Patriots Mitch, they just became all over again, not just the evil empire, and we'll talk in a minute about them. Getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar again. Okay, they become as intriguing a team as there is in the sport months after what happened Oh I know they lost greatest quarterback of all time, right? Don't think there's that doesn't value into it. At some point with Robert Kraft owner like a hey, we're going to be able to get anybody to watch us. With, Jarrett Stidham quarterback so now. Did you. Call them jared now. The you WanNa Watch the Patriots now the same way that you want to watch Tampa Bay because you want to see Tom Brady. You WanNa Watch the Patriots to see CAM. Newton, and the rest of the Patriots with Bill Belichick playing football. You did not want to watch them with Mr j Jarrett they were just GonNa be another team that was vying for a good draft pick so this changes the fan equation, even though there aren't going to be any fans, and this changes the offensive equation, and it's a very very low risk, also Mike. You know having three quarterbacks, even though stem in and Brian Hoyer Rx. Star material you you need that. In Corona virus time mean let's face it. Depth is going to be huge on football teams here now, so they also on addition to everything else. They added a third quarterback, which really of quarterback is the one two and three most important position in the NFL. You can't be deep enough a quarterback now because you're starting quarterback. Guess what might get Kobe Nineteen, and then you're not going to see him for at least three weeks and And what are you GonNa do about that, so this was a smart move all the. The way round, and by the way I said seven point five million. I think that's what it costs them if he hits all his incentives, I think it's less than that. It's the league minimum so I mean you're starting. A Guy went to a super bowl is still only thirty one for a league minimum and and maybe he's healthy because he had all last season, and all the off season to get back by the way was a foot injury Mike that that that he was coming back from for this time, it was a shoulder. Yeah, this time. In two thousand eighteen, but most people feel that that's probably healed. It's the foot the list frank thing which is very bad for running backs and anybody who makes their living full. Running quarterbacks not so bad, you should be able to come back from that and he's been posted a bunch of. INSTAGRAM stuff that makes them look like he's back from it so I I just think this is brilliant and as you pointed out. They do it on the same day that they get tagged for cheating with their. TV camera crew and losing a third round pick and getting fined a million bucks and who's talking about that nobody because everybody's talking about kids. It's like firing an inspector general late on a Friday. Yeah. Okay plan for that all right, let it. This is David. How happy to Mitch and I sound excellent talking. Sports we've mentioned Cobra thousand nine hundred passing. Before, we return. We've got news does even more money than usual to be made at at Geiko? Did. You know that right now. GEICO is offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car, motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifty percent on top of the money Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your dog to make you breakfast in bed with Belgian waffles of fresh fruit compote? As Nice as that sounds, that's probably never going to happen, but at least there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October, seventh visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more. Mitch Listen the Patriots to get back to a super bowl and I'm not saying that this puts them back in the Super Bowl. They're looking at the landscape in the AFC east, the looking at the kid who plays quarterback in Kansas City and they're looking at the kid who played quarterback in Baltimore Okay and Belichick. Who Sits there and you just imagine him with sitting in the room with one of those you know perfect mind. His head filled with XS and OS. You know that he was intrigued. We talked about this, you know. He was intrigued by the prospect of showing everybody that he could win with jared cinem- okay and a must have looked at the offense and set with Josh. And they decided. That so fast, and so now he goes out into the school yard with a brand new kid in class, and that's Cam Newton. Does that put him a pass? The chiefs in a road game if the season makes it that far in January or February, who the hell knows, okay same for the Baltimore Ravens who used to have the Patriots number when Brady was in his prime. Okay, but don't you believe? That ballot check has been thinking making all these calculations. He looked at the field of available backup quarterbacks Okay and came to the conclusion that you know. At his age sixty seven to sixty Ed, he wasn't just going to throw a season away, and and they must have had internal discussions about this for some time and I agree with you I. Wonder if they know something about. Arms that we don't know about okay whether he's worked out for the. Did you ever see a story that he worked out for him, I didn't know. No I. Don't I don't know that he did. Yeah right, so yeah. I don't know that he did and and that's why I'm saying. They're taking a flyer on him, but really it's not like they were ton of other guys left for them to do this. And you know you as you mentioned Kansas City as you mentioned Baltimore. And quarterbacks who can just light it up on you like Lamar. Jackson. Or Patrick Mahomes it occurs to me that the best way to beat teams like that is to hang onto the ball. And convert your third look at what he did. Look what he did to the Patriots last year. Keep the tacking force, which in those cases are quarterbacks off the field as much as you can. Well if you've got Cam Newton and you can now. That's not Cam Newton's game in the past Cam Newton's game. Is You know? Drop a hand off to Christian McCaffrey. You see what he can get for you. Then drop back and try to make magic happen. Get sacked, and then have a long third down and try to throw a seventy yard, pass and get intercepted or being complete and off the field. You got to change that whole I'm not saying that was his whole career, but I mean that's the worst case scenarios with with with Cam Newton. So now you've got to change that to hand off the sun and Michelle pick up four or five yards. Get second five. Some kind of option wear cam. Newton can go and pick up another three or four yards if he has to. And then you've got third into, and you can either toss it over to one of those tight ends that you got or hand the ball or have Cam Newton, pick it up and boom I doubt now we start all over again. That's the best way to try to beat a Kansas City or a Baltimore. Which you're right, Mike. That's what Bill Belch looks at at this. He he's not, he's not. He's not looking at anything else. I still think he thinks that they can be the cream of their division. Pretty easily. you know I know the other teams have have made some improvements in gaining on them, but the AFC east has long been. Buffalo's pretty intriguing to Buffalo. Is You know they're? They're certainly I, mean we? We both agree the buffaloes and ascendant team in that division slowly absolutely, but are they better than the new, England. Can. The Patriots beat them once or twice. You know we'll this addition if it works out. Yeah, and so that's basically so okay if they win their division by a game instead of by nine games, which is what they got used to. That's all that matters, and then you win your division. You have a chance at a at a by I. Mean it's it's. It's part of his big plan, and I just think that this is a this is going to be very interesting, not only for all the reasons we mentioned but Mike. What kind of training camp are they going to have a means? I don't know. What are they gonNA have preseason games. This is we've talked about this with the NFL. Just acting like what corona virus, but it's getting on time. The first preseason game is traditionally the hall of Fame Game. That's been canceled. The next one starts using the first week in August while. We're in the last week in June here now you're talking about about four and a half to five weeks from now. They're going to field teams. For Football, games I haven't seen a really good plan for the NFL. So who knows how much time? They're going to really get what if they shrink the preseason down to two games, you know what if they looked at this schedule I just looked at the schedule as you just as you were saying that okay. The Detroit Lions your lions are scheduled to go to Gillette. On August, thirteenth. For the! First preseason game. Log is thirteenth. That's what six weeks from now yeah six weeks in. They can't even figure out how to work out. Players safely. Let them even come into the gym, so they may very well. Wouldn't you think the first thing they throw over? The side of the balloon is is. PRESEASON Games. It's not. GonNa make the ticket money off of them anyhow and so. You know in trying to trying to compete against the NBA and Major League Baseball and everything else. That's going to be NHL and all that that's going to be on in August. They may just bail in. Say you know let's try to keep things, so let's save it for the regular season. If my point is, we could have a truncated training camp. We can have a truncated preseason in which case that gives bill belichick much less time to play around. With reinvent his offense Rian. Office visit some point. You still have to play football to do that. You can you can. You can have all the workouts you want, but you've got to play against another team to see how it and and you can only do it against your own squad for so long. It's part of the reason that traditional training camps, which is another question that. I haven't heard the NFL address. Traditional training camps involve a lot of teams pairing up. You know the they they they kind of do a four five days with another team and play against them, so they can. They can work out against another team. I can't see that happening now. You want to keep your groups as small as possible. You don't want any scrimmages against other teams. Teams because that's now you're talking about one hundred players, one hundred other players so I mean good luck bill belichick in making this work every every every coach has to do the same thing with the same short period of time, but with a brand new guy in a brand new approach to your offense. It's a bigger challenge Mitch I. All I was thinking today is this. This team. In good times when they've been upset and super bowls, and when they've been caught in their hands in which had his second, they have been leading the conversation in this sport. For nearly two decades for nearly two decades. Okay, it's the it's the for not the bill belt check has a life of the party personality. It's by the force of his his persona, a Brady's persona of all the winning, but in two thousand twenty two brady's gone. Who are we talking about today? Who is leading the conversation in this time in the world in professional football, because of this move, and because what the League did to the Patriots when they're bad, we're talking about them when they're good. We're talking about them when they're great. We're talking about them but this. Chocolate Mitch think about US any other story with any other team that has dominated our conversation, just our conversation, starting on television, and now than the New England Patriots Yeah. Well I'm looking at a tweet from golic and wingo quote it's the most England thing ever. It's the most bill belichick thing ever. That's I mean that's that's pretty much it and and and you know. Let good for them, because Tom Brady has commanded the spotlight. Certainly long enough. With his moves in his career decisions and now Tampa and his workouts in Tampa. Whatever this is all part of the part of the it's like it's like the Beatles breaking up and then saying everybody's talking about Paul and then suddenly. You're talking about John I. It's all part of the the unit that they had together. And now we're talking about the team and the coach as opposed to the quarterback and everybody's GonNa WanNa Watch them. The thing is Mike. That kind of surprises me. And maybe I wasn't paying close attention. Because you know the League is an in session, but Wouldn't. This would have made sense anyhow. Why didn't we hear like more whispers about this up till now I don't know I think of that last night. Because when you read it, you said Oh yeah. It was always in the back of my mind that they might do this, but it. I guess there's just been so much going on. Obviously I'm just trying to in the NFL so many decisions to make and black lives matter and captured it all that stuff. Okay, the reversal of course from goodell. There's been so much going on that we were really focused on. Personnel decisions because we both been skeptical. We're not even sure that there's GonNa be a season. I still think we both Mitch and I talked about this for. Four months that we thought that of all the professional sports leagues the one that was being the most ambitious because they're sees. It wasn't starting till September was the national football league so when this finally hit last night? You, you Kinda said wait. Should we talk about this last month? Yeah, yeah. Well. I also think it might have been Mike because. We just didn't think that with no money to spend. I think they had one point eight million dollars. Cap They could never make it happen. And maybe the Cam Newton was holding out to do a long term deal with some team who is going to make a trade or something like that? And we just said well not gonNA. Go to New England. They don't have any money and I suppose that that's why, but you know also on Cam Newton part. He clearly has said you know what one year in Patriot land could do a lot from Iran tation and he's not dumb, either. We keep talking about bill. Belichick in this deal. How about the smarts of Cam Newton? Absolute saying you know. Hey I'm thirty. One thinks damaged goods. The worst that's going to happen to me. Is I'm going to go to new. England and play with maybe the greatest football coach of all time hopefully improve my performance. Get protected by a great offensive line, which by the way they didn't always have down Carolina for him Stand up right. Put up some stats and a year from now I'll be able to get some big money. That's pretty smart on his part, really smart. Smarter on his part. Been Bella Checks Mitch. You're right because you look at it and you know. Cam Newton has been watching all the stuff that's been going on personnel. Wise over the last. It's not apparently it's not like. People were beaten down his door and isn't it ironic that of all the teams in all the land that he finally figured out gave him the best chance to start on week. One was doing on Patriots. I mean I can't think of another team. Can you think of another team? I was trying to think of one last night. Where you look around and say. Where could he have walked in competed and gotten the starting quarterback job? I can't know that was the whole thing. High Goldie may be but. All right so the team. That's one played nine super bowl over the last two decades became his best option to show the world when he could still do. You're right. It's it's. Maybe, he was negotiating for more than this, and maybe he finally decided that this bet on himself was worth it. 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A one point one million dollars in lost a third round draft pick over that film crew fiasco of supposedly a crew that was filming a Just get it done kind of special about how the Patriots have this magical way of doing things, l. and they happen to be in a stadium when a team was practicing and they film that, too. And once again, the Patriots get fined for something, but it doesn't get back to Belichick Bell. Check still is basically. I didn't know what they were doing to know. Some kind of a adjunct thing well, apparently, NFL thought that the team knew enough about it to find them a million bucks, and to take away a third round draft pick, which may not sound like a lot to novices, but draft picks are precious to teams. Look at what they trae look quarterbacks, Star quarterbacks have been traded for third. Third round draft picks over the years, and you realize that third round draft pick is is a is a knock, but it's not getting the attention that it would have because everybody's talking about Cam Newton instead, and this was clearly deliberate on New England's part and guess what and I'm not saying that Bella check is already thinking that far ahead, but you never know what check if if if Newton comes and produces and they lose them. What are they probably end up with a third round draft choice. But but Mitch. Isn't it amazing that? Some organizations cannot be rehabilitated. You know we always joke about Ryan can't be rehabilitated. Okay, but. Do and every one of Mitch's there ever been an excuse that didn't sound like. The dog ate my homework from from once that from deflategate to spy gate to this, and it's always like a weight. was there a team practicing down there? You know, wait to. We leave the tour of that city mode. Dammit, and did we have a crew that was filming it well I. I mean how many times have we had that happen to you? Mich you just wandering around with a film crew while while a team is practicing it. I'm sure tap into several times in your life that makes me cynical on the other side about this. Though it was the Cincinnati being. Honest to God, do you need tape to beat the Cincinnati? Bengals do you need to to steal? Practice material for the New England patriots with Tom Brady to beat the Cincinnati bengals. So who knows maybe they really were just stupid and filming when they shouldn't have been filming the by the way you know if you if you walk out with a pat in your pocket, because you forgot that, you would put it there because you were going to check out, and then you walked out of the store. It's still shoplifting you know. Sometimes. You Know Oh, well. We weren't gonNA. Use that stuff, but they did it well. You can't do it, so you can't do what they did. Because Really I. IF IF BILL Belichick is down to filming, the Cincinnati bengals practices in order to try to get an edge. That's really weird. It wasn't a practice. It was their game, right? It was a against Cleveland Cleveland Yeah because I mean. What do you have to the trying to steal signals from the sidelines of what's possible football tips what Mitch? What possible football tips do they pick up? What's in the browns? Play? The bengals Yeah I. Know Accept What not to do. But. I suppose trying to pick up how they send signals in or something like that it just it just boggles the mind, but anyhow the NFL thought that it was an probably the way and. Who who got really got? Clipped Brady lost four games because it deflate gate. Okay, but who got the the equipment managers got clipped. Who got clipped this time David? Mondello, who has already lost his job with the Patriots I just love the second paragraph of the story. In addition Patriots Television, production crews will not be allowed to shoot any games during the two thousand twenty season and seen. This is my favorite one rich senior club officials will undergo required training on League operation and game policy. It's almost like they're sending the Patriots to couples counseling, you know. And and I admit this time you know that this time. They're gonNA. Learn their lesson. They'll never misbehave ever ever ever get and. I love it when somebody finds. He's rich guys who own these teams a million dollars. Okay now that's everybody else. That's a Lotta money not to them not to them, and they say oh, we find him a million dollars that will. That's not even a speed bump to the New England patriots. Yeah, no I. It's a slap on the wrist, but. They had to do something apparently, and and that's what they did all right. We're going to move on again. Our friends from GEICO. 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Once Wimbledon allowed product placement on those white tennis out at center. Court I knew that anything was possible in this area. Yeah. Well I understand the spirit of this. Adam silver has done a great job as commissioner and as a white commissioner, I mean stating the obvious of being sensitive to a league that has overwhelmingly African. American, and saying you know, these are the concerns of my players. I need to be sensitive to the concerns of my players. What is it that you wise basically just sit tell me how you want to handle this and will handle it that way. This comes by the way when he is asking. And the teams are asking the players to do an extraordinary thing with the end of the season. Even though they're going to get paid for it, it is an extraordinary thing, and you already see a half a dozen or so players who adopted out of this experiment in Orlando and they'll be more. WHO WERE GONNA? Say I don't want to be here or who pull out after the thing starts especially on the teams that are on the lower end of this thing, so in light of that and some players saying I don't even WanNa go. Because, it'll take attention away from the movement which we heard a Kyrie irving a couple of other players say so in the light of that East. Come up with this idea to allow players to replace the last name on their jerseys with a statement on social justice. This is what the report is now. Forgive me, you say I'm a can be cynical by nature. I see a sentence like this NBP A sent players initial details on the plan tonight, stating it is working with the League and Nike. Thinking, Okay Yeah Nike so we'll turn this now into yet. Another commercial and the slogan that will be on certain players backs will somehow find its way into an ad that will. Yeah Right. Yeah, because if you can't if if you if you honestly think that Nike is on the side of social justice, not prophets. You just haven't watched what how they make their sneakers, and who makes their sneakers and the profit that they make exploiting off of people with their sneakers, and then turn around and say you know we're all about the message and we're all about the athletes. This is tired story. It's been it's been talked about a gazillion times, so that made me a little cynical. But how do you think Mike? Fans who are going to be going to be in the stands, but there will be watching on TV. will feel when they see you know. Players go into the basket, and on on their on the back of their shirt back of their jerseys, black lives, matter or perhaps something. That's even. More Explosive than that I don't know what the Hell I don't know. He's going to be the on this. You Know Mitch One thing I. Always I'm always interested and we have these conversations from time to time on the podcast is what people are saying on your radio show? Okay I, you know I have lived and worked in the New York. A audience for. All of my adult life. Okay, and I'm always interested. Because I wanted to know for example when capper nick started to Neil, what the callers to your radio station were saying in Michigan okay, and what you just said made me think of that, and by the way I'm not trivializing this, but I whenever I hear about messages on the back of Jerseys Mitch I. Think Back to the XFL and he hate me okay? And thinking how silly I thought, that was at the time. I believe silvers. Heart is in the right place and I just think that there's a part of this and. However passionate he is. About social justice, and however passionate, the players are and we all are about. Social Justice I just think this is like one more thing that you open yourself up to asking yourself questions like Mitch, just ask which is. What's in this for Nike Well Nike aside from this Macaws. Until we know the answer to the question, you and who approves the Mitch? Who D-. Who that? Is Okay and one's not okay right, and then if if let's say, it's the commissioner. Let's say it's a committee. If they say it's not okay, did they? Do they run afoul of some players? And what do you mean that one's not okay? And then you start to create bad feelings for something that was supposed to be good now. If you're gonNA, just GonNa, say as long as it's not a curse word, say whatever you want. That'll be pretty interesting because there are. There are some players with some very strong opinions. But they do have a worldwide audience, an audience of more than just African Americans and You know this is not typical to a sport, any of the four major sports that have always tried to sort of separate. Politics and social issues from sports that has been more of the norm for all four major sports until very recently, so it could be very interesting and set some kind of precedent, and then do they go away from that next year? Do players start to say well? There's still social justice issues next year. We should be able to put this on. You know all the time it's A. Interesting maybe risky, maybe important. Thing to include, but it is new, and it's worth contemplating. That's all we're saying I. Don't think either one of us have kind of come to any kind of conclusion on it but I. Don't think you'll see it in the NFL by the way at one last thing before midst. Texas out of this. I woke up this morning and saw the Vin scully was trending on twitter. And you know when you see somebody's name always get concerned. He's ninety two going on ninety three. wrote a about in the other day. 'cause I email them from time to time and somebody. Some Jomo found an old clip. where he said that because of the kneeling thing, he wasn't. GonNa Watch the NFL anymore. Okay, and this. The twitter mob then decided to go after him except that the twitter mob. was quickly out, shouted by the people and I. my favorite tweets on this from San Francisco giants, fans that said leave Vin scully alone whatever you think about what a ninety year old man said about this thing. Leave him alone because when you start going after him now. You've gone too far now well. He's not the only older person who has. Made that common, and there needs to be some allowance for first of all for people to have the right to say what they wanna say if that's what have been scully felt. You know you can't. You can't talk about. Rights and civil rights and say he doesn't have the right to say that and less I last I looked at doesn't disqualify you from being a baseball now that he's doing it anymore, but you know what are you going to do to? What do you WanNa do to Vin scully? Is it. What's the endgame here? You know to to point out that he had a point of view. That is different than yours, okay. Soda. You know people have different points of view I I agree with you. There's a point at which trying especially when people are in their nineties. Got To be a little bit of a Mulligan. And I don't think he needs a Mulligan. He was speaking his opinion. These entitled to say what he was wanted to say at the time. That's it. All Right? That's GonNa wrap up today's two man version of these sports reporters We'll be back to do this again on Thursday. Who knows who the Patriots sign on Wednesday night? And gives us something to talk about You can hear this podcast. Every Monday and Thursday you can tell your friends who always loved the sports show on Sunday mornings that were doing this on stitcher and apple and spotify Pandora and all the popular podcast platforms. You can leave us a rating. You can leave us a comment. We always appreciate both things, and until we see you on Thursday on behalf of my Luca this is Mitch. Albom wishing you a good?

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Introducing Storybound (and a WWDW update)

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Introducing Storybound (and a WWDW update)

"Hey everybody this is jeff renters. All right I know it has been a long time over years since we've released a new episode of the show that's going to change. We're coming back in the spring with a ten episode season with a lot of really amazing authors. Who are going to tell you? Stories about their careers or writing habits and the stories that they've always struggled brought to tell We changed the format of bunch. I think you're really going to enjoy it. And the other big changes that we've partnered with lit up which is one of the largest publishing nonprofits in the world you can find more INFO phobic ly hub dot Com. They have a whole thing out there called lab radio. which is you know a dozen shows that are under an umbrella network and that's one of the reasons that's why we're reaching out to you today? Resident right will be joining the hub but we also have produced a second podcast called story bound. This is under my i. I pod glamorous umbrella which a lot of our longtime listeners will remember. I started a podcast company. About three years ago We have not gone out of business yet. Actually businesses great and I encourage everybody to check out the POD GLAMOUR DOT COM. But in the meantime we are really really stoked to announce a show story about basically. We're getting a lot of authors Thursday to get behind the MIC and they're gonna read an essay or short story or poem or something that they've written sometimes news sometimes old and we have matched each author. Where are they unique composer musician to score the entire episode? I'm biased but I. I really think that it's something beautiful and resident and the New York Times actually just wrote a piece about it and they said that it is like a private reading just for you. There's a lot of authors that you know some that you might not our early early guests included. Mitch Albom Lee. Which Kim Barnes Matt Gallagher Nathan Hill Adelle Waldman Mitchell s Jackson honestly? There's there's a lot of really amazing names here and I could not be happier because I'm embarrassed that we've made you wait so long for veterans. Who'd alright and because I'm excited to show you at this new thing that we've been working on? We thought that we would give you the first episode of story bound. It's with Mitch Albom. He is reading an excerpt from his latest book. Called Finding Chica and musical composition for Maya Win and Ali fought and I should also note that the shows hosted by author out of of Portland Oregon named Jude Broher. He's incredible. Hey I think he has a really really bright future in front of him ultimately. There's just a quick note that will be back in the spring with some new episodes of writers. It's not right and in the meantime we hope that you'll enjoy story bound if you do. Please go to your favorite podcast. APP Apple podcasts. Stitcher spotify tune in whatever and search for the show story bound S. T. O. R. Y. B. O. U. N. D.. In just once you find it hit that subscribe button. We're going to be releasing episodes until March which is maybe in time for you to get back into writer's not right so thank you so much for listening to this three and a half minute rant and We'll talk to you soon. Let us know what you think at. WWW podcast on twitter or at story bound pod on twitter Welcome to story presented by hub radio and the POD GLOMMA. I'm your your host Judy Brewer. This is our first episode episode. So thank you for joining us coming up in one. Minute is a story told by Mitch Albom with compositions by Maya win an alley font. Don't settle in and enjoy the show growing up. I would always carry a book around my own private invisible world full of new discoveries these days whether it's the weekend or my lunch break I'll stop by Powell's books and see what's new on. The front shows read employee recommendations. That's one of my favorite things about Powell's the personal touch Powell's howls books is the world's largest family owned independent bookstore with over two million new and used volumes across five Portland area stores and their website Powells dot com. The book lovers of all persuasions can find exactly what they're looking for or discover something new wonderful and unexpected. Come here your favorite authors read. At one of Powell's I five hundred plus free in store events each year or checkout original essays and interviews on the Powell's blog visit Powells dot com and use coupon code story bound around twenty percent off your next purchase of twenty five dollars or more available only at Powells Dot Com. That's twenty percent off your next purchase of twenty five dollars or more. Just enter Promo Code story bound. Why aren't you writing Mr Mitch? Cheek is lying on the carpet in my office she flips onto her back. She plays with her fingers angers she comes here in the early morning when the light is still thin at the window sometimes. She has a doll percent of magic markers other times. It's just her. She wears her blue pajamas with the my little pony cartoon on the top and Pastel stars on the bottoms in the past. I love to choose her clothes each morning after brushing her teeth. Matching the colors of the socks and the shirts but she doesn't do that anymore. Chika died last spring when the trees in our yard were beginning to bud as they are budding now as it is spring again her absence is left us without breath or sleep or appetite and my wife and I stared straight ahead for long stretches until someone spoke to snap us out then one morning Chica reappeared a. Why aren't you writing? She says again. My arms are crossed crossed. I stare at the empty scream. About what about me. I will when soon she makes a girder sound like a cartoon Titan. Don't be mad. I say and don't be mad CHICA. Don't go Kay. She taps her little fingers on the desk. As if she has to think about it mm-hmm she can never stays for long. She first appeared eight months after she died the morning of my father's funeral I walked outside the look at the sky and suddenly there. She was standing beside me holding the porch railing. I said her name and disbelief Chica and and she turned so I knew she could hear me. I spoke quickly believing this was a dream and she would vanish at any moment. That was then lately when she appears I'm called I say Good Morning Beautiful Girl. And she says Good Morning Mister Mitch and she sits on the floor or or in her little chair which I never removed from my office. You can get used to everything in life. I suppose. Even this uh all right cheek. I say I'll start writing thing. Yeah she squeals shaking her fists one condition. She stops her shaking. You have to stay here while I do. We have to stay with me. Okay I know she can do what I'm asking still I bargain. It's all we really want my wife and I since gecas been gone to be in the same place with her all the time. Tell me my story. She says And you'll stay. I'll try all right. I see I will tell you the story of you. And and she says us. I say I wasn't there the day you were born Chica. I arrived in Haiti a few weeks later to help after a terrible earthquake. And since you always tell me I should talk like grown up. Then I can say it was seismic enough in thirty seconds to wipe out. Nearly three percent of your country's population. Buildings crumbled offices collapsed. Houses that held families were intact one moment in in puffs of smoke. The next people died and were buried in the rubble. Many of them not found in two weeks later. Their skin covered in grey dust They never did get an accurate count of those lost not to this day but it was in the hundreds of thousands. That's more people killed in less than a minute. Then all the days of the American revolution and the Gulf War combined it was a tragedy on an island where tragedy. He's no stranger Haiti. Your homeland is the second poorest nation in the world with a history of hardship many deaths. The kind that come come too soon but it is also a place of great happiness Chica place of beauty and laughter unshakable faith and children children. Children who in a rain storm will hook arms dance spontaneously. Then throw themselves to the ground in hysterics as if they don't know what to do with all that joy you were happy there in that way once even very poor the the story of your birth was told to me as follows on January ninth. Two thousand ten. You entered this world inside a two room. Cinder block house by breadfruit tree. Three there was no doctor present. A midwife named Albert delivered you from your mother's womb from all accounts yours was a healthy healthy birth. You cried when you were supposed to new slip when you were supposed to and on your third day of Life January twelve a hot afternoon afternoon. You were sleeping on your mother's chest when the world shook as if the dirt Health Thunder Your Cinder Block House wobbled and and the roof fell off and the structure split open like a walnut leaving the two of you expose to the heavens. Perhaps God got a good look at you. Chica Deka because he didn't take you that day and he didn't take your mother even though he took so many others. Your home was destroyed but oh you were both left intact naked to the sky but intact all around people were running falling praying. Crying trees lay on their side. Animals hit you slept that night in the sugarcane fields on a bed of leaves under the stars and you slept up there for many days that followed so you were birthed into the soil of your homeland Chico. All it's roiling rage and beauty and maybe that that is why you sometimes roiled enraged yourself and were so beautiful you are Haitian although you lived in America and died in America you were always of another place as you are now even as you sit here with me once late at night. Miss Janine and I were crowds next to your bed and you said to US quietly quietly how did you find. I thought it's such a sad question that I could only repeat it. How did we find you? You said yes and we said you mean how did you come to us and you said yes again but I think you meant that the way. Oh you said it because life before the orphanage was foggy in your memory like being in a misty forest. So how did you find me makes sense because to you. I suppose it felt as if you were found but you were never lost Chica. I want you to. We know that there were people who loved you before we loved you. Your mother zeal. You and your father fed. They had two girls who proceeded you your older sisters and when your mother got pregnant with you she told her best friend Brasilia that you would be her last child together. They chose an elegant name for you Missouri. Although very soon everyone was calling you Chica someone someone said it was because you were a stocky baby someone else said cheek is a term of endearment. It doesn't really matter. We have names. We're given named aimed just attached to us and she was yours and had your mother right. Had you been her last child she might be alive and I might never have met you but she in federal had one more baby after you two years later a boy. He arrived in the hottest month of the year August. I in the early hours before the sun came up Albert. The midwife was again present but this time something went wrong. Your new brother lived near mother died. I know what makes no sense to have birth and death in the same bed Chica but that is what happened and that was the last you saw of your birth family for a long time. Her Zulia carried you off after the funeral. She said your mother had chosen her as your godmother and had insisted if I ever die you must take Chica so she did. Your next home did not last long less than a year. It was a single single room apartment in a cinderblock structure that you shared with resilience family. There was no bathroom inside had night when the electricity went off it was total darkness and in the mornings you would carry dirty bedsheets up the stairs to the rooftop. A dangerous undertaking for child. Not yet three years old. A woman saw you doing this and grew concerned for your safety. She suggested to hurt Zulia that you might be better off at an orphanage. She knew of one not far away in the section of the city known as Delma thirty three that is the orphanage. I have operated since two thousand ten the year of the earthquake the place you call Machina. The mission specifically the have faith. Haiti mission rectangular tangled piece of land behind a high grade gate on rue and laremy terribly potholed streets that gathers water like a small lake when it rains. And that was the beginning of Providence. Moving our lives together or the continuance of it I should say since the Lord were doesn't get ideas partway through life Uh they they want me Who one day? When I was back in Michigan I got a phone call from Mr Allen are Haitian director Sir there is something wrong with Chico? And what's wrong. I said her face. It is drooped and she is walking funny. Did you take her to the doctor. Yes sir what did he do. He gave her eyedrops Alan. It's not her is. Can you find a neurologist Sir Nerve Dr I will find I remember hanging up that phone feeling unsettled. There's something ominous with coming like the rolling thunder on Haitian afternoons before the heavy rains full. We never needed a neurologist before Chica. ooh A skin doctor Yes dentist shore cough medicine. Diarrhea Medicine Children's Tylenol but a neurologist. And how serious is this. I want but when we finally found that neurologist he noted the droop of your mouth and your left eye gate was slightly off he ordered an MRI at the time there was only one MRI machine and all of Haiti and it costs a seven hundred and fifty dollars cash for an appointment. Mr Allen took you there you left before sunrise six hours later. I I finally called your name. You were placed inside a large cylinder radio waves in a magnetic field generated around your head and the results were for images that showed you from the inside and while I would have told people that on the inside Chica your warm and curious in confident and funny the MRI analysis was more clinical. It was two sentences. The child has a mass on her brain rain. We don't know what it is but whatever it is there was no one in Haiti can help tell me about when I came to America. You Ask all right. Here's what I recall. You were the first child we ever brought to this country and the day of your departure the other kids at the mission in lined up to hug you wave goodbye as the car left the gates and I imagine some of them thought they would never see you again accompanied accompanied by Mr Allen. You flew to Miami and onto Detroit wearing a white sweater. Even though was June in your first American bathroom you turn the Faucet Austin Jerk your hands back. 'cause she would never felt hot water from a sink before so before you even slept the night here. This country was a wonder under to Miss Janine and I were waiting at the house. Janine had arraigned some colorful blankets and dolls. To make you feel welcome at the time we hope the doctors diagnose the problem and treat it quickly and you would. He'll under our watch. Then you could return to Haiti we. I thought this would take a few months looking back now. We really knew so little. I should should say that you did not seem scared when you got here Chica but you did not speak much either or show much emotion. Mostly you looked around and who could blame you. Virtually everything you saw was new traffic lights highways houses with yards mailboxes televisions in different rooms. The the input had to be overwhelming. I often wondered when you went to sleep that first night. How far you imagine yourself from the mission the day after your arrival we went for tests at Children's Hospital on Ann Arbor? It was the tallest building you never seen. And you gazed. As long as we walked inside. We approached the front desk and a man said hello. He gave you respond. which you admired like a bracelet you then? The man turned to me and asked what is your relationship to the patient. For moment. I hesitated all around where mothers and fathers many looking similar to their children. Same hair same skin color seemed facial features. I fall is if I've been caught trying to fool someone. I answered by saying Legal Guardian Ghost. Those are technically the correct words and the man wrote something down and asked me to stand Dan before a camera. Mr Mitch you suddenly yell. Look you pointed to a large superman figure in the lobby. I released your a hand. You ran to it just as the man had to me a sticker with a grainy photo. My face above the photo was one Stuck into my shirt You are listening Donnington story about and now for a short break and now returned from our Janine I had been hopeful based on doctors earlier analysis that the mass in Chico's is brain could be manageable was fuzzy on the scans and during surgery the frozen samples that they removed. Were not overly alarming. The hope was for a great one tumor most easily dealt with but we were braced for a grey to which they warn could involve some radiation and long-term surveillance Instead Dr Garden came into that consultation sat down and in a soft but direct voice said the news was not good worse than they thought. God Chica had something called Diffuse Intrinsic Pantene Glioma or D. I p. g. one asked if that was a great one or two them he said it was a four a four. He began to lay out options which included radiation therapy and experimental medications stations. But all I heard was four four I felt like I was stumbling even as I was sitting down four and I kept listening for the part where the surgeons go back and take the whole monster out but it never came. Apparently if they did that there would be nothing left of Chico's brain to function function four. What if she were your child? I mumbled falling back on that shell game of putting the onus on the doctor well Dr Gardens said exhaling I would probably take her back to Haiti. Let her enjoy the summer. Be With her friends until it's in the until everything awful lies and the doctors told us that she would live for four. Maybe five four months possibly longer if we underwent treatment treatment but that could affect the quality of your life. She's a fighter. I finally said looking over Janine who nodded and as she fights we're GONNA fight. Dr Garten Lean back all right he said and and then for a few moments we all just sat there staring at an invisible battle plan. and Are you a a little scared about going back Haiti crying. I'm sad but I'm still having yeah and Do you remember the first morning you woke up at our house Chica. I was already down in my office because mornings earnings are when are right and suddenly my phone rang. It was Miss Janine calling from the bedroom in a rasping just woke up voice she said Mr Mitch Chico's hungry for breakfast. Can you help her. I came upstairs. Lead you to the kitchen and we found eggs zim butter and some cheese and tomatoes. I showed you the frying pan the burner and you stood on your tip toes and helped move the spatula around. I poor Jews juice. We said our prayers and I watched you and I watched you eat some more to call it. Leisurely doesn't come close. You chewed you look after window. You put down your four yawn and picked up your fork again. You swayed back and forth to some internal rhythm. It took nearly an hour. I would compare this to the pace that I eat breakfast vist except I don't eat breakfast but the next morning when I heard your feet thumping down the steps at seven. Am I rose from my desk. Desk met you at the door. Lifted you as you said Mr Mitch. I am hungry carried you up to the kitchen. A child is both an anchor and a set of wings. My old way of doing things. What's gone before you came to us? Miss Janine I would watch. TV in bed and often fall asleep with the TV. Still play once to arrive. We shut the lights and tiptoed around you in the darkness often the dead of night you would wake us up Mr Ms. I have to go potty. Guide you to the bathroom. Then wait yawning outside the door frame. I'd hear you flush help you wash your hands then guide you to your bed which was nice and low so you could tumble into it. She Okay Miss. Janine whisper as I crawled back in beside her. She's fine. I'd mobile those in my eyes. She's good the most precious thing you can give someone your time to go because you can never get it back when you don't think about getting it back you've given it in love. Love learned that from you time passes Chica. Choirs clothes some that we buy her some. That are friends bring her she likes to dress up the frilly or the the better and she marches around Janin's high heels. She drapes herself multiple necklaces. She wears two hats at the same time she. She likes to Gild the lily. Janine jokes one day cheek and I are heading out hold on I say you have something on your face. What she says? I grab a Napkin. I pat the area around her lips. You're kind of wet here. How did you get all wet? Mr Mitch she throws up her hands. That's my lip gloss. After six months in America we take Chico home for Christmas. Holiday is a big deal at the mission laden with traditions and the tippety play play. Stockings hung in the dormitory a once. A year meal of goat fried plantains picked lease a spicy piddle cabbage dish. Cheek is giddy with excitement the night before. She crawls on the bed and tickles me until I begged her to stop and then she asks what's going to happen step by step as as I go through at horizon drift away. She doesn't look like she did when she first left Haiti she's lost hair. She's lost teeth the operations the steroids. Thyroid's I asked if she was scared to be going back a little scared. She says making a small space between two fingers. And I'm crying happy tears. She's never used that phrase before happy tears. I wonder where she gets it insight the next morning for the big day she wears white tights and sneakers with a Lime Green Hoodie. Over a sleeveless top. We board the plane and should lose to the window. Many the passengers are Haitians and she occasionally spins and says hey they are talking like me and soon as we land imported prince she runs up the jetway. All but leaving me behind. The airport band starts playing Banjo Accordion Accordion Guitar Bongo drums. And she dances in the hallway shaking and twirling in a way that proves she is home because only home could liberate such joy joy. Mr Allen meets us in baggage claim reload his vehicle and Chika hides behind his seat as we drive through the mission gates. The kids have been informed her return and they're chanting CHICA. Chica as we pull in Alan looks back in amazement and says you. Did you hear this. Don't look at me Mr Alan. She squeals look at something else. When the car door opens there is a massive rush and the Nannies Janis are shouting and the little kids are jumping and there are so many hands around her lifting her up as her faces smacked with kisses when they finally finally put chicken down? She wiggles her little black shoes in the dirt then she pulls off the Hoodie and runs to the swing set jumps on a swing and push yourself higher hire as the other kids gathering. Watch if I could freeze any moment and give it to her as a gift. It might be this flying. Hang over the happy expressions of her brothers and sisters as they marvel at the return. I rubbed my happy US lay to fear Trou- gone awfully few year on any child and I want to speak about joy when I look back on our journey there were times. We didn't give enough weight to Chica in the later stages your daily needs. Were so great dressing. You took longer bathing bathing. You was a meticulous process your pick line needed to be flushed and kept sterile lifting carrying you. Acquire me for someone else always to be present because of this. We sometimes overlook the fact that despite the physical challenges your mind kept growing. Your thoughts deepened and we might have missed the joy of your blossoming into a fully formed. Young person had you not made sure to reveal it in unique linguistic ways. One time I was reading a long email and I side. Oh boy why do you say oh boy there are no boys here. It's just an expression Chico. Why don't you you say oh girl another time you ask for a glass of water? I warned you of his cold cold water warm heart. WHO said that cupful? You once asked Miss Janine. Can I have two husbands and when she asked how many children do you. You want you shouted want. Why just one she? Because that's all I can carry and one morning running down in my office. My phone rang and it was you calling on the other line Mr Mitch. Do you want to come. Play fluffy cozy bed camp camp. I entered the bedroom to find you and Mr Dean beneath the covers when I crawled under you said these are the rules of Fluffy Cozy Ed. Kim I am the boss. Miss Janine is the second boss you can be the third boss now. Let's play if I could change anything from those moments GCA. It would be to stay in them a little longer. Immerse ourselves so we never forget. I rarely early use. The word rejoice in daily life. But it is the word I'm looking for you. Rejoice revel in the funny business. This is quite something when I look at photos of those days to see your tireless crooked smile while miniature golfing although you could barely swing the club or on trips to the supermarket although you had to sit in the basket or visit the state fair although I had to carry you from ride to ride no matter how engrossed we got in the medical struggle you were indefatigable when it came to fund the paraphrase. Emily Dickenson because we could not stop for Joy. You kindly stopped instead office with your spirit. AH MM-HMM One afternoon when you could no longer walk on your own. We were coloring the kitchen table. I glanced at my watch not realize I was late. I stood up sorry cheek. I have to go no no you protested stay and color Um Chica I have to work Mr Mitch. I have to play but this is my job. CHICA SHEIKHA No. It's not you cross your your job is carrying me. I've thought about that sentence more than you could imagine. She can at the time. I laughed it off as you being. You're lovable bossie self. But the more you weakened the more you needed me to transport you even across the room the more I realize the wisdom of your words your job is carrying me. That line became maybe the biggest lesson. Utah what we carry defines who we are and the effort we make our legacy. What you carry is what defines you? It can be the burden of feeding your family. The responsibility of caring for patients the good that you feel you must must do for others for the sins that you will not release whatever it is we all carry something every day and for all your time with us As you so defiantly Stadium Chica. My job was carrying you. My job was and is carrying your your brothers and sisters in the orphanage my job it turns out after so many years without them is carrying children. It is the most else wonderful weight to bear. We're GONNA do you slide down the hill. Be Your first sled ride by yourself. ooh Are you scared. Yeah but you're GONNA do it aren't you. Because you're brave right okay. He did. You like it This story was an excerpt excerpt. Read by Mitch Albom from his New Book Finding Chica. The music in this episode was composed by Maya Win and Allie Font with additional sound design from Heidi Boat. You can hear more of my on Apple Music spotify or wherever you preferred stream your music by searching for Maya Wind. We also wanted to thank the team at Harpercollins and the team David Black Agency Ray prosser from WJR for engineering them recording with Mitch as well as Carry Alexander from Mitch's office stories abound is mixed produced and hosted by me Jude. Brewer are executive producers. Are Jeff Umbro of the pod glamorous and Justin Alvarez of lit hub this the show's theme was developed with the help of James Cook. You can find his music under the name grain table. WanNa tell us what you think of a show. Find US on twitter at story bound pod or or you can tweet at me directly at Judy. Brewery new episodes are released. 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James Conner & Mitch Albom

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James Conner & Mitch Albom

"Most job boards overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. Not smart, but ZipRecruiter finds the right people for you and actively invites them to apply smart CHAI for free at ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash a. s. p. ZipRecruiter the smartest way to hire. Oh. This week's Adam Schefter podcasts we are joined by the great author, a friend, a mentor, Mitch Albom who just got the news that his newest book. The next person you meet in heaven is number one atop the New York Times bestseller list's. So the number one bestselling author, Mitch Albom will join us as will the Pittsburgh Steelers running back James, Connor who has stepped in and replaced levian bell who still a no show in Pittsburgh. But with all the trade news going on around the NFL with the NFL trade deadline coming up Tuesday at four PM eastern I, we have Evan Kaplan. The ESPN NFL researcher to break down some of these moves and provide a preview of we gate cap hit. We've had an incredibly busy week as we get ready for week eight in the NFL season and there were trades galore this week already. We saw the Oakland Raiders deal Amari Cooper to the Dallas Cowboys for a first round pick. We saw the New York Giants trade their former first round, pick ally apple to the New Orleans Saints for a fourth round pick and a seventh round pick what do you make of some of these moves? Well, let's start with Cooper Adam. Who was the deal that came down on Monday and you look at his production over the last few seasons certainly down. I mean, there's no doubt about that, but look overall at his career, and there's a reason why the Cowboys made this trade based on the production they've gotten from the wide receiver position. Amari Cooper has thirteen games in his career with a hundred receiving yards. That's since two thousand fifteen. The Cowboys as a team only have eleven instances of a player with a hundred saving yards in a game. So you have to look at the entire sample size. They still think they can get something out of coober. He's. Very young. He's only twenty four years old. So certainly the the trade make sense there from an onfield standpoint. And you look at the giants and look since this new regime has come on hand. They have continued to get rid of some of the giants. Former first round picks two thousand ten Jason Pierre. Paul traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two thousand thirteen. Justin Pugh. They chose not three signed him. And now in the last few weeks, they have cut Eric flowers, two thousand fifteen, and now traded Eli, apple, two thousand sixteen. There is one giants. First round pick still on the roster that was picked from two thousand sixteen or earlier that's Dell. Beckham Jusoh it. There's a, there's an exodus going on with those first round, pick. Interesting thought your number one, it shows you why it's so hard to move on and set up a new regime because new regimes get rid of old players. And one point these players were pretty good and the giants moving off them and they haven't worked out in New York and maybe they were bad picks, but maybe LA apple will go to New Orleans and thrive, and maybe Amari Cooper will go to Dallas and thrive. That's what those teams think at this point, Tom. And the other thing that's interesting to me about this is we are taping this Tuesday afternoon, four thirty ish eastern. The trade deadline is literally one week away one week away, and we've already seen Carlos high dealt from Cleveland Jacksonville. We've seen Amari Cooper dealt from Oakland to Dallas. We've seen ally apple dealt from New York to New Orleans. Three notable traits in the span of four or five days with a week to go these front offices. These general managers are more aggressive than ever before and they. Are making moves and itching to make more moves. We've seen three, and if we go back to last year at the trade deadline and may be missing something Kelvin, Benjamin from Carolina, buffalo, Jimmy Garoppolo went from New England to San Francisco j Gye from Miami to Philadelphia, Marcel Darius from buffalo to Jacksonville and Dwayne Brown from Houston, Seattle, that was five last year at the deadline already three this year, and it's becoming the NFL's becoming more like the NBA and major league baseball. In terms of traits, what used to be not very common terms of transactions is now, like you said, become so much more common and we've still got a few days to go before that deadline l. we bring up ally on the saints. Can they recover from the heartbreaking playoff loss from last year oven? So what I wanna do is try to try to make this little scientific in terms of their heart breaking laws, Minnesota, miracle Stefan digs touchdown. So I looked at all of the teams that have lost a playoff game since nineteen ninety under the current playoff format. Despite having a lead in the final thirty seconds of that game. Now. Thirteen teams that have done it including the saints. Last year of the previous twelve. Only two won a playoff game in the following season. The two teams that did win in that situation where the two thousand two raiders who got all the way to the Super Bowl loss and the two thousand thirteen Seahawks who actually won the Super Bowl. So if you're able to get that first win odds are you're going to pretty deep playoff run. So saints obviously off to a good start this year. But the recent history has shown is tough to recover. Some of those teams have lost those games. The more memorable playoff games of the last few decades music city. Miracle te'o catch game, tuck rule game, so games at come to the front of your mind. So tough to come back, but certainly saints in week seven beat the raven. So they're, they're on the right track t to buck that trend imaginable using apple to help try to shut down to fund digs Adam Phelan Kwan Treadwell all the Vikings, wide receivers making plays. They'll need ally, apple, this Sunday in that game. All right. We talked about the Cowboys making a trade. The giants making a trade and in the NFC east, the eagles are limit on the ropes here the defending world champion. So are the team that they're playing the Jacksonville Jaguars early kickoff again in London, Sunday, nine thirty AM eastern set your alarm clocks right now. What's going to happen to the loser of the eagles Jacksonville game panic from the fan base. I think we can say that, but don't panic as yet. So three and five. Certainly not the star that either of these teams would have wanted after the success. They had last season, but you look since two thousand eleven seven teams have made the playoffs after going three and five in their first eight games that's more than in the previous twenty seasons combined. So lately, the tough start over the first half of the season doesn't mean that your season is over the last time. It happened was in two thousand fifteen. With three teams were three and five through half their season. They still recover to make the playoffs the chiefs Texans and Redskins all did this sees one of the great matchups this weekend, Evan. We've got Aaron Rodgers. Going to LA what a sports, Saturday or Sunday. It's going to be an LA where you have the Rams playing the Packers early on. And then the Red Sox played the dodgers later on in the World Series, but Raja's in LA for all the stores that we have out in LA on Rogers may be the biggest one of them on Sunday. I was he fared versus the Rams during the course of his career four, no against the Rams out, but but this is a little different Rams team. So the previous QB's faced in those four games, Sam, Bradford twice, Nick foles marple jer. So it was four wins his most against any team without a loss in his career. But now he faces Jared Goff to QB's from Cal kind of similar numbers within to this point in in Goffs careers to where Rogers was and obviously a good omen for Jared Goff here, Aaron Rodgers. One is Super Bowl, his only Super Bowl in his third season's started in two thousand ten. This Jared goff's third season as the starter Rams only undefeated team left in the NFL and this is something to keep an eye on. Certainly, I'm sure all these ball Packers fans have this on the radio. Already, but you look at their schedule coming up. It is brutal Rams week, eight, patriots dolphins Seahawks Vikings. Four of those games are on the road. So a tough upcoming schedule in a competitive NFC north certainly have that an Alaskan that I wanna bring up with you. Evan is the Browns in Pittsburgh. Now this new regime in Cleveland, and they've already played four overtime games this year. The record is five at the nineteen Eighty-three Green Bay Packers, but it feels like the Browns are into overtime every single week, breaking hearts, their fan, some weeks coming through and others, but at least being competitive giving idea of the last time the Browns affair will in Pittsburgh. So Heinz field is certainly been house of horrors for Cleveland Browns fans. They have lost fourteen straight games in Pittsburgh. The last time they won was in the two thousand three season just to give you some perspective on that in two thousand three. Baker Mayfield was eight years old. Myles Garrett was seven years old and Hugh Jackson was in his. First year as an NFL offense Nater with the Redskins. So it's been a while for the Brown. So keeping my second meeting this year between these teams weak one, they tied in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield did not see the field necking. So this will be his first game against the rival, Steve. Yeah, that should be a great game. And again, I think the pressure's rising Cleveland. I think you're starting to hear more and more talk about Hugh Jackson, getting more involved in the offense. He's taking that back, but you've got to very strong personalities and Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley, the Browns offensive Cornell show that plays versus I a big game in Pittsburgh, Evan wanna. Thank you very much for your weekly NFL preview. Enjoy week eight things. Eight free voicemail and Rogers, Aaron, Gabe, your sports agent. I have some news about your state. Farm agent. Patrick turns out you're not his only customer more on. Patrick guys spends his day helping other people. I saw him changing some ladies tire, and I'm like, why is he helping her? That's not Aaron Rodgers hair and it's Patrick with safe arm. Yes. We'll cover your new car also gaps in lurking around my office. It's weird. Free agents who were there for you. Go with the one that's here to help life go right state farm. Speaking of that Steelers Browns matchup levian bell at the time of this taping still has not shown up at the Steelers training facility another week without levian bell. The beat goes on. A lot of people feel he'll be back next week after the trade deadline so that he can report at four zero one, sinus franchise, tender, and the Steelers won't be able to trade him and some people believe that's why he's holding out. But in the interim with Bill holding out, we have his replacement James, Connor joining us to talk about everything that he's been through and his place with the Steelers right now. Hello, there, James. How're you doing question for you when you're growing up and going to Irie McDowell high school and then going to the university of Pittsburgh and your training in the same facility where the Steelers trained today and you're in visiting your career in the NFL one day, how does what you envision then compare to the reality. That you've lived in the last couple of seasons. Good question of question. You know, growing up up neary and then you know, trying to get a scholarship, then it came obviously a pit was the was bitch option that had only had a couple of options. And so when I came here and like you said, sharing the same facility, we have four practices in back in the Panthers had last two, and it's got the first two. So you know, just would sit down at the practice and watch those guys watch been AB all those guys work. And you know, just envision myself when info seeing not knowing would have been a Steelers. It was gonna be the Steelers. And so from now for me to stay here in the same city surreal, you know, in living dream house, he compared to what you imagine then. Is everything kinda expected. You know, for knocking, say that year to you know, my first year knows little different things, you know, watching a lot and stuff. But you know, now that I'm playing stuff, you know, kind of what I expect. You have an interaction with the Steelers back when you're playing for the university of some of those guys who say like, you know, good game because you know we play Saturday's and stuff. So when I'll come in and run a two, four number twenty four. So you know someone guy game and you know, we'll just see them, but not really like, you know, even though so close, it's like far far away, somebody award that divide us, but of you know, the contact between the two things really not much at all. James rookie year. You ran for a hundred and forty four yards coming at your sophomore year, and I don't know that anybody expected we've seen so far so far after the bye week, four hundred fifty three rushing yards. Seven, rushing TD's. What did you expect the yourself coming into this season? We'll come. We'll come into the season. I knew that there was a possible situation, you know, holding out and stuff. So I really was just controlling everything I could control, and I was being in the best shape of physically as possible. So I took a lot of variety into being shaping and being ready and you know, with the playbook, learning all that type of integer reps during training camp. And you know, I always knew what I was capable of doing. You suddenly hundred forty four yards as a rookie, you know, but only had to like thirty times. So I knew that you know with the ACA produce, but a an often, even though is really, you know, focusing on myself into being ready for the situation that I'm there right now, Jesus any kind of light that went on between what you learn from year one compared to what you learn an experience hearing your to as made a difference for you. Yeah, accountability is being accountable when you know knowing how to fit in into offense and just being available, I was hurt, you know, had some hamstrings early on and then you know, tore tore a knee and you can't really help that. You know, football is gonna be football, but you know they're doing a good job with staying healthy and treatment after before games, being able to sit on the field staying healthy, I want to go back to November of two thousand fifteen doctors till that they show a large mass and your upper torso and you make your Hodgkin's lymphoma, diagnosis public in early December two thousand fifteen. What was it? Like when doctors gave you that news? What do you remember about that really does shocked and confused on a got the phone call and after my one of my scans. And are they said it was it looks like Hodgkin's lymphoma, and I wasn't familiar with that. I didn't know what in the former was, and I said, I said, what's fomer? And doctor said, it's a form of cancer. And we said that I was, I mean, it wasn't hunter. Percent at that time, but I figured that if they were gonna call me, you know, like thanksgiving, I news price area, so just shocked and confused. 'cause I didn't know much about the cancer and everything like that. So really deducting confused. And what was that process like as your undergoing treatment? Do you ever have any doubts that you wouldn't be able to make back to play football again, James? No. I always try to stay positive and negative start that crept in try to block it out immediately. That was just that process was was tough because you know the year before, you know it was up there with the top guys in the country and just seeing them and not being able to be on the field and compete. That was really the toughest part of it all. Obviously, chemotherapy isn't fun. You know, sex toll on your body to beat you pretty bad, but I'm on anything was not not their teammates and being able to compete with a team captain at the time there. So yeah, it was just it was a tough long process. What can tell you to reach out to the other patients at Pittsburgh. Filming cancer center while you did? Yeah, we'll just because I was part of some that was bigger than me every every treatment I'd have family around and or teammates will come in. And then I would see other people whether it be young kids or Oviedo that you know said they've been coming here, their their cancer is long-lasting cancer, does it. They've been there for eight years. They've been battling for eight for ten years and they'd be by themselves reading newspaper, or, you know, looking lonely something, and you know, I have like a camera crew around me just because you know my status and teammates in all support group. While I was getting chemo, they'd be by themselves. I was kinda like, man, I don't wanna buy to fill no ways, or you know, we're all going through the same thing. Just trying to show them that we're just like, how often now do you have the chance to reach out to patients at the home in cancer center? Well, when I go back for Texas, like psycho party, I see every everybody, but you know, nowadays is really through social media, especially with being in season, you know, pretty busy, but off season definitely will be making, you know, chill. Rens hospital and everything like that. But you know, I had to reach out when I can. You know whether it'd be through social media messages or or when I have time to go in may of two thousand sixteen you declared that you're cancer free and you began working out shortly thereafter. How has your life changed since you've been declared cancer? Free and how is it affecting your perspective? Ma'am. Just forever grateful that I've opportunity to be back playing a game. Again, a life has changed because you not, I, I'm part of something bigger and football. Now, you know, you know the the Kansas communities like a rather hood allows me to connect with people any color, any race, any gender first hand. 'cause I know what they went through now. So now it's like people who aren't even fancy football or know anything about what they know me as the survivor, you know. So really dislike the audience and people that I've read that that I can connect with is way bigger than just the football audience. And so. So I'll always have reviver our attached to my name. And what's your message to all the people out there who are looking to you for inspiration James, that there's life after and life after tragedy. Never. You can't escape it. I that's number one message and also keep the faith you know through through God, but you know that that wasn't my first tragedy in life, and it won't be my last one. You know, hope it's not as worse as that, but basically, you know, there's going to be tough times in life, but I like to be able to give others hope that when their situation, you know, it'll come and go and and it'd be life after that. So this season's been going great for you so far. What is there left for you to do this season? James. Oh, man. There's a lot of, you know these on paper, but you know, there's when I watched a film. That's the thing that I'm learning every week that you learn something new about yourself, and there's always mistakes after every game. So all matters. There's a lot a lot of football left and there's a lot more can do. You know, just with this with the ball in hands in the ball without without the ball. So we have a lot of football left, so and every week is new week, and I've a lot the proves to. What have you learned from the Levy on Bill situation yourself? Right now? You know, I really haven't been focusing much on it to be honest. I know that there's definitely business sides of it. You know, it's, I know loving, I love the game of football, and I know he wants to be here playing, but that's kinda the part that I don't know is what's going on. I kind of behind the same. So I know he loves the game. He loves to compete helluva player. And so I know if he'd be here, you know, if you if you know things worked out. So really out, I'm not, I'm I'm not really saying much attention to it. I've is waiting to see him when he when he gets back. And when he does get bags going to be a tough time for defense because you know me and him. We bring a lot to the table. That'd be quite a combination to have you and him in the backfield there. Yeah, it'd be so, yeah. Keep doing what you do. James. Got a lot of people pulling for you then a great job, and we wish you continued success. The rest of the way. James, we'll be back in a moment with Mitch Albom. But I, I wanna tell you about Dollar Shave Club no matter what you do in the bathroom to get ready Dollar Shave Club is everything. You need to look feel and smell your best. They have amazing shower stuff, hairstyling products, toothbrushes, toothpaste. And of course, razors shave supplies. I enjoy using the amber and lavender body wash, which leaves my skin, feeling hydrated and clean. That's how I get ready, but you're not meet. You've your own way to get ready. You might shave your whole body to get ready for a bike race, Dollar Shave Club, executive razor shave butter can help you might do your hair to get ready for your soccer match. Boogies by DC can help you get your style, right. 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Now your new book, the next person you meet in heaven debuts at number one. Do you still get the same jolt of adrenaline when you get that news? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Doesn't good old and you know, it's, it's, it's home bling and it's harder to continue to do that kind of stuff as you go on. But yeah, doesn't get old. I think an athlete would tell you, you know the same thing if they had something that was, you know, won a game or or was good for their career. Yeah, but you know, it's more I'm more pleased when it's people are still reading it a while later, you know, because my books people tend to read and then pass on to somebody else and continuing that. That's the thing I enjoy the most about what does it mean to you to be atop de list? It's so many people. Love your book show much Mitch. Oh, I. It just means that you know the things that I think are important to get across. Apparently, some other people think to, you know, that's nice. I don't right. A typical book. You know, I'm I'm, I probably suffered a little bit from being hard to define. You know, I'm not a thriller writer. I'm not a Har writer. I'm not a lawyer writer. I'm not a romance writer. I'm not really an inspirational or how to or self help author. But my books do have you know, some inspiration in them and and some life lessons in them. So I I've seen my books like blocked into stores. Sometimes I've seen my books in a religious section. I've seen them in the fiction section. I've seen them in the how to section. I've seen them in the sports section. You know, it's I, I don't know where to find it. So you know, I guess it just means that whatever it is that I'm trying to get across a certain amount of people like you say, it's important for you to get those points across. What is it that's important for you to get across to them? What are those lessons? Well, you know Adam. I mean, I in all serious. I had a, you know, sort of a. Life changing experience. When I was about thirty seven years old, you know, I've been a sports writer, thick and thin for the first fifteen years. Sixteen years of my career, I was writing a column for the Detroit Free Press. I was on ESPN three days of weekend. When we started ESPN two, I did the sports porter show. I did a radio show. I said no to nothing. When it came to sports. I mean, sports was everything and I wanted to be ambitious and successful as I could in it. And then when I was thirty seven, I happen to be flipping the remote control and saw an old professor of mine from college talking to Ted Koppel, but what it was like to die from Lou Gehrig's disease. And I was taken aback because in all my ambition and chasing of all these sports dreams, I had forgotten about him and I hadn't stayed in touch with him and he and I have been extremely close in college. So I went out to see him. I thought it'd be a one time visit turned. Into all the Tuesdays that he had left in his life. And I ended up writing a book called Tuesday's Mori to pay his medical bills, and that was supposed to be a tiny little book. But for some reason when it came out, it just grew and grew and grew and grew and still grows and turn my whole life around at them. I mean, and you knew me and you know me, you knew me before and you knew me after and you know, suddenly I couldn't go through an airport. People would used to say to me who's gonna win the Super Bowl, and I'd say patriots and just keep going, you know. And then all of a sudden I was going through airports and people were saying my, my wife died of cancer. In the last thing we did was read your book Tuesdays with more. Can I talk to you and you can't go patriots, you know, and just keep going. You have to stop. And I've had to stop and talk to people like that every single day of my life sometimes to five, ten or I'm at a an event, fifty or sixty. Night to hear stories about Las loved ones and how the disease or major events in their life. So my whole emphasis of what's important in life changed after Tuesday's with Maury, and my books changed my writing changed and what I wanted to get across in all the books that I've written subsequently have been kind of a result of the lessons that I learned from professor, and I'm still even with his new book and even with all the previous ones, each one of those books can be directly tied back to something that I sat with Mori and talked about and still resonates with learn during that time Mitch about the language of lauch because all these books use the language a alost. That's so important that people have so identified with. So what have you learned about that that people have taken to so much? Well, the best way I can explain it actually is in this book because as you know, because you know me personally, I've suffered a lot. A loss in the last few years. I lost my mother and my father and our little girl that we were raising from Haiti all within about three and a half years. And that's a lot, especially the multiple generations of it. And in this new book, the next person you meet in heaven which follows the kind of idea of the five people you meet in heaven where person goes to heaven and meets five people from their life who they may have known or may not have known, but they explained to them something that they didn't understand about it. One of the characters explains to the the woman who was going to her heavenly journey about loss. And he does it this way, takes these pipe cleaners that play a part in the story, and he takes their Spivey them and he takes one of them and he makes a tiny little heart perfectly round and perfectly shaped, and he says, you see this heart, it's perfect and it's unlined. This is the heart that we're born with. Then he takes the other four pipe cleaners. Any makes us really big heart that's law line in crossed. And he says, you see this heart, this is the heart we die with and women's says, but it's all broken and he says, that's right. And she says, that's what ruins it. And he says, no, that's what makes it whole. And that is what I have learned about loss and how I have to choose to talk about loss is that, yeah, it hurts it lines are heart. Criss cross in dense are hard up and it breaks it, but those lines are how you come to appreciate your life and how you come to appreciate what you still have and the loved ones that you still do have. And if if our hearts were all like when we're born, we'd never miss anything because you know if you don't lose anything, you don't appreciate anything. And so all those cracks allow the light to sort of come into your heart and understand what it means to have and what it means to lose. But what it means to still have while you're still here. And that's why say about our little girl that we lost we, we didn't. Lose a child. We were given a child, and I know you've had a lot of loss in your family too, and your and your marriage in particular with your wife and what she went through. And you know, I'm sure she's had to adopt a similar kind of philosophy rush. You just can't get through the day, you know. And so that's really the best way I can explain it. And then I wrote it in that in this new book because I was feeling it while I was writing the book. So how much will your personal experience dealing with the loss of your mom and your dad and your little girl reflected in this book right now? Good deal. I think everything that you go through in life, find your way even into a novel, you know, even if it's fictional people might be able to see a character here there. There's a moment in the book. There's a sentence in the book where where the this woman who is kind of the focus of of the book, she's a little girl from the first book who got saved by Eddie who pushed out of the way from a cart. He died. He went to heaven, but she lived now, this is the story of her and what happens to her in her life. And the what happens when she dies and goes to heaven. And one of the five people, she meets his Eddie from the first book. And there's a line in there when she is talking about a child that she lost who she gets to hold again and just for a moment, and then it's gone. And the line is she felt utterly full and utterly vacant at the same time, which is what having an losing child is like. And that line is written right from my own life. And that's exactly how it feels. When you lose a child, you feel like you've had everything you could possibly want and life and you are missing? Absolutely everything when it's gone. So you know your, your personal life will always find your way into fiction somehow or another this sometimes more than others. Miss your on a tour right now. I know you're in Philadelphia today. Are you going to be in Philadelphia today? Bill be in Toledo, Ohio, November, seventh than Roswell New York on Thursday, November. And you've already been to a number cities. What has been the reaction of people that you've met along the way? What has been their biggest takeaway of your new book. Well, first of all, I for fifteen years. I've been getting their letters and emails about what happened. Eddie and what's the second stage of heaven? And you can't just stop that story there. What happens to the little girl. So one nice thing is that I've answered those questions. I don't get those anymore. And other thing is, you know, the book is so small. You know, I wrote two short book that sometimes the lines are long and people come up and say, I've read half of it in line. Well, 'cause save the second. I don't want you to put it back and say, I finished it. You got anything else, but they're very glad to see these characters come back, which is interesting because I've never written a sequel, you know, like I wasn't lucky enough to invent Harry Potter or Jack Reacher or anything like that. You know, we can just keep going back to them. So this is the first time I've ever revisited characters and it. It's like it's like we are grateful like, thank you, you know, always loved. I always, you know, I rushed out because I always wonder what happened to them. So the reactions in really nice and you know the whole idea of. The first person you the five people you meet and have and was about my was about Eddie and his whole issue was that he thought he was a nobody. And I tried to say there's no such thing as nobody. Everybody affects somebody and this book, and he's a little girl who grows up kind of guilty of the accident that she causes men to lose his life while she lived. She feels everything. She does a mistake. Everything I touched goes, sour everything through them stick and the lesson this book, you know, sort of like there's no such thing as everything being a mistake, all of mistakes lead to something else. And if you have your eyes open, you see that they actually can sometimes lead to opportunities. I'm sure many times in your life. You can look back on something you thought, oh, this is terrible. This has happened awful or I really messed this up and then two years after that, you go. Well, if I hadn't messed that up, I wouldn't be in the situation that I'm in now. So you know, people are grateful for that lesson. Then if it's any comfort to them, happy. The story of life right there. I mean, everybody can look at all these instances in their life where things haven't worked out and they lead you to certain other opportunities, relationships, situations that you'd never imagine and you hope that they're good ones, not ped- ones. 'cause also happens sometimes. Right, but if that's the next bad one, then that leads you to something else. You know everything trips into something else. We're sort of our lives are sort of a series whether they're in sports or anything. I mean, athletes will always tell you that too. I got traded. I thought it was over and then yeah, man, it turned out that's where I met my wife and you know, we had all the, we all just kind of bumbling along things happening to us. And and and then later when we're finally at the end, we sort of understand and that's kind of what this five people. I mean, haven't series as sort of about that. We have no clue when we're here about, you know why this happened or why this we lament a lot of things. We were angry about a lot of things. I lose that person. What did I miss lose that job? Why did I have to. Go to fight in the war, whatever. And to me, I always thought, well, heaven is really what it's supposed to be. You know where it's it's this place of eternal bliss. Then the first thing they will happen is they say, okay, let's explain to you what you didn't get while you were down there on earth. Let me show you why this work and this work in this worth. And that's, that's sort of that's what happens to these characters when when they actually get to the afterlife. So how do you look back on your life now? Mitch and all that you've accomplish. And I mean, there's nobody in our business that I admire and respect more. There's nobody that I looked up to more in the business, and I look at everything that you've done with all these bestselling books with the establishment of the nine charities and Detroit with the orphanage that you operate in Port-au-Prince eighty. We'll old a good in charitable philanthropic work that you've done. How do you look back on your life now? Did you ever think that this is this would be what it is now? Well, no. I mean that I can answer very quickly. I, I never thought my life to this. Would look like this at all. I started out as a musician, so where would my aspirations? You know, I didn't. I didn't write a word, so even getting into writing was an accident for me, getting into sports writing was a total accident for me. I, I was applying for Sunday magazine, writers job, I, I was I like sports, but I wasn't fascinated by sports and it just so happened that the the guy who was looking at the clips for the Sunday magazine writers job, he rejected me, but he took my envelope of clips. He walked in across the newsroom and gave it to the sports editor and said, hey, you know, this guy's written some sports before he's got a bunch of sports clips in there. I don't know. Maybe you're interested in them and that guy Fred Turner of the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel red, Mike clips called me up. I was in Finland at the time he called me up, offer me a job and and and gave me an entry into sports writing that I never would have had. Now I look at that adamant. I say, I don't even know who that guy was who read my clips and brought them across those news. Room and gave them to fret. But what if he didn't? What have you just throwing them in the trash like most people do? I wouldn't be talking to you right now. So here's a person who changed my life totally. And I don't even know his name. I couldn't think him if I wanted to. So that's all of my life has been like that. That's why he's five people have an expert than, you know, that's what they all find out is like somebody changed your life in a way that you didn't even know, and you may not even have a chance to think them and they're responsible for it. So the answer your original question, though. I couldn't ever seen all this stuff happen to me. I'm I'm the definition of John Lennon quote life is what happens to you while you're busy making plans while I was busy trying to be this, that and the other thing life had something else in store for me. And now at at this age, you know, I'm not done. I'm not finished, you know, but I'm older and wiser, and it's funny the longer I have been in sports. And that the world of, you know, I've done two movies and things like that. This high profile word fame, the more. I appreciate the absolute opposite of the kids that I take care of in Haiti every month who have nothing who were left to die out in fields, and you know, as infants and who wandered around the country for several years of the parents were killed with quakes, just wandering around being picked up by random strangers. My heart goes totally that and and totally away from fame and celebrity and stuff that I've been covering and writing about. And that's letting fame and all that my interest every year, get less and less than that and more and more in in helping the people you'd never even hear about. And that's been interesting to me. I didn't think that my life would turn out that way. So you're touching their lives and not to personalise. But I mean, when I say this, Mitch, you touch and change my life because when I went to Michigan. In nineteen eighty five is a freshman. I had never read anybody the way that you wrote your working spire me motivated me. It made me want to become a sports writer, and I told you, I want to be Mitch Albom. When I was college. I never remember what I told you all the time. Shoot higher. Well, let me but I'm just being honest. And I say this that you help set me on the path that led me to where I am today, and I would not be there without having been inspired by watching you work and do everything that you did, and I could not believe the work that you did with everything in Detroit. Just it blew me away. And you talk about these experiences changing you and these people changing you. How have all your experiences with all these books with all these charities changed the way that you've used sports today? Well, that's a good question. And I have to be honest and say, I just can't get that worked up over some of the stuff anymore that goes on. You know, when I see we're speaking today, there was a fight in basketball game between a couple of guys trying to out macho each other with the Lakers and the Houston Rockets. And I just shrug and go, honestly, you know that that's a big issue who's the tough guy out in the court. And I find myself saying that more and more, you know if the Jimmy Butler situation where you know, how can I play with the team that isn't going to win a championship this year. I really, this is getting paid millions of millions of dollars. You could do so much good with that. And this is what you're this is what you're complaining about in life. So it it's a hard world the work in. If you're also working in the third world, you know, with. Kids who aren't able to eat and situations. It is hard, but I try not to become like holy. The now about anything. You know, I'm the one who chose to work in the other world. They're not forcing me to be in sports, so I just don't get that crazed about it. And I tend to write stories or or talk about stories that are smaller or that are, you know, off to the side and you've known me long time, I've always kind of gravitated those kinda stories. Anyhow, you know, my my, the most fun I ever had writing sports when I did arrive and covered dog sled racing two weeks in Alaska freeze them. I still have. So you know, I, I guess I've always sort of gravitated that's up any, but it just the trivial stuff and the Twitter wars and things like that that go on between athletes really doesn't hold much interest. I become myself to become from becoming angry at it, but the games themselves are still interesting. You know, they still are there. They're still magnificent performance. Level of talent has gone up so much. I've been in sports writing, you know the level of college talent, a level of twenty three and twenty four year olds in in major leagues. You know, we were just talking the other day or on the sports Puertas podcast about how young Patrick Mahomes is you know, and and how how do these guys get? So good, so young. And so it's all improved. Everybody's faster and stronger. And I enjoy that. I mean, I and there's no reason that you can't do both things. There's no reason that you can't write books that are about, you know what's really meaningful in life and enjoy fourth quarter, you know, drive to win a game. Why who who on earth said, we have to pick one or the other and you can't enjoy. It's all part of the tapestry of life. I enjoy still hosting daily, talk show and WJR there in Detroit, you're still writing books. You're still running sports columns, doing podcasts doing everything. What more do you want to keep doing? How much longer do you want to keep doing? What's left for you to do still. Well, I don't. You're giving me too much credit out as you always do because I don't do any of these things full-time and you know, even radio, I'm off like three months year, which is on a herd of radio, and I don't write a fulltime sports column and my books come out every every three years. So I'm trying to balance my life with my work with with doing things for other people and about half of my life. Now is charity, and that's fine. It ought to be. I've had enough opportunities. I've been blessed with enough half of my life should go to charity works now, and I'm happy to do it and what I still have left to do. Well, there's much to do with these children in Haiti. I've got forty seven kids. I want every one of them to be college educated. My first two are up here now in in Michigan as I speak their freshman at a school kkob Madonna university that got scholarships. One of them's premed, and my hope is that the other. Forty five all get here and get a college education and then go back to their country and change the pattern that bought them to me. You know, always say to them, I want you guys to close this place. You know, I don't want there to need to be an orphanage. You know, for kids who were abandoned or let go, whatever I want you to get married and have children and raise them with good jobs and and then we can close this place up. So I have to live a long time because I got three year olds, and I keep projecting ahead. It keeps saying Geneva, my wife, you know, 'cause we take in new kids. And I said, well, just took into three ruled. That means I gotta live at least at least nineteen more years to get him through college, you know. So I keep pushing the out exterior of my envelope, God's willing to do that. That's what I really have to look forward to. You know, there's plenty of challenges and work, but that's, that's the thing I'd love to see the most. You've always taking care of yourself. You always wrote down exercise, eating right. So I expect you to live a very, very long time, Mitch. And for that to happen. Well, I would down in the hotel rooms and and the hotels into fitness room, and I would come in sometimes your listeners by kick out, come in, you know, you open the glass door with your key and you'd hear like. Two of the of the of the head mill and you. There's always wished you go on someone's here before me. Yeah, you know, hope there's so machines left and I've come in and more often than not. Adam Schefter will be the guy that you'd be soaked with sweat and I said, Adam, you know, I know you're younger than me, but how come you have to keep getting up early the million machines. And so you were working hard then and I'm sure different right now. Any more books for you, Mitch. Yeah. Well, there are plenty of books left, but I am working on one even now that is actually going to be out next year which is really fast for me, but it is a book about our little girl Chico nonfiction book called the summer of Chica, and it's about what life is like when you become a father in your fifties, and and you know, this little girl was funny brash and Bossi, and she would tell all the other. Kids where to eat and where to go, who could get in line for the bathroom, I and even when she was five, she had her hands on her hips even when she was five. And then when she came up here and they diagnosed her with this brain tumor, she's still her personality was still the same. And she never really understood why she was sick. She just knew that suddenly she had kind of a mother and father with her, and we suddenly had a daughter and she was an absolute joy, even though she was dying for the better part of those two years and what you can learn from a child at this age in life and and your priorities and how it can just sort of put everything in perspective was amazing. And you know, I think it's universal. She didn't look like us shouldn't have the same skin colors us. She didn't speak the original language like us. She didn't come from our, you know, our DNA, but we could not have been more of a family and we could not have loved the daughter anymore. Then we. Did her, and I think that tells you about, you know what? It takes to make a family that it's it's not just. DNA or who came person? Gosh, Adam, you know this as well. Anybody with your own situation. We have what you wrote an absolutely beautiful book. The man I never met. I was so happy to read that in in its galley form. And you know, there are lots of ways to make family, and I want to say that while all of her memories are still really fresh in my mind. So I'm working on that now. How to write that book now, oh, man, it's, you know, like almost can't wait to just come down every morning and work on because I get the rehash these conversations that with her which were often very funny. You know, she said to me once we were used to carry her around towards the end 'cause she couldn't walk anymore. You know her brain, you know, the signals were were bought. So I would carry her from the bed to the kitchen table or the table to the bathroom wherever we had to go. I was transportation and we were sitting at the table coloring once and all of a sudden look at my watch realism late for the radio show. I gotta go. She's no, no stay stay color. I said, I can't. I have to go, no, you don't said just I do. This is this is my job and she looks at me and she says, nobody is your job is carrying me. You know, of course, last funny and also dead true that yes, my job was carrying, of course it was. It's all of our jobs, carrier children, you know, and especially when they, they can't do things on their own. And I, I got to carry her was the best job I ever had, you know, carry from place to place. And the last time I held her was when I carried her from our home after she passed away and you know, and I had to take her outside and and. That was that was really special. And so I wanted to get that down. So you know, it's a, it's a cathartic experience to write that book book next fall. Next three net one as well. Go, we have a prediction around the lions, you Detroit Lions. Well, they've been surprising. You know me, I, I don't get revved up early in seasons on anything because I've just seen too much and it was almost amusing to me that when the lions lost to the jets on Monday night football, which now really seems like a bad law giving. There were people here in Detroit who were burying that Patricia already, and they're saying he's lost a lot. Yeah, there's a mutiny. They don't wanna play for this guy. They don't wanna like one game, you know. And now I mean, they actually looked together, you know, they have a running game carry on Johnson. I knew it was going to be a good player. I didn't know he'd be able to turn it on like this. I actually block for him by giving a running game to Matthew Stafford. He's got all kinds of time that he didn't have before. He's got this kid and Kenny Galloway who's a really good young receiver who's like starting to become his next Calvin Johnson. Plus he's got the the smaller guys who continues to throw to and and their defense. You know, Ben's but doesn't break. And you know, there were five hundred and their their five hundred and rising, you know. And so they're staying pace with the very tough division that they're in, and I think they'll be competitive. So clearly the end has not come from that Patricia before the beginning even started. And you know, you have to play these things. Out. It's just you have learned this. I'm sure better than anybody. The cost football is played every Sunday and their six days in between. It's too much time. You know, it's like just too much time St., arise out everything much time. We have too much free time. They should shorten the week, you know, or they play every three days or something because there's too much analysis that goes into every game about who season is over and what's going to be in the patriots would being buried and they're not the way they used to be and and and you know, wow. Shubra bowl eagles as going to the Super Bowl and James Winston never gonna stood up for a game again, and you know, look at all the early early story lines that are all history ready, and the ones that we're talking about now, maybe history, you know, maybe maybe New Orleans what they are or maybe maybe the next couple of games. It's really tough and we'll be talking about them as you know, you know, three or four losses. So I weighed. I wait till the end and there's only one month that really matters, and that's January and one week that really matters, and that's everywhere. And until then we'll see the lions if they make the playoffs. I think it'd be their division that'd be a major compliment. But I do think that Patricia here, I'll go way out on a limb matching, Matt Patricia will still be the coach at the end. That is saying something about that predicting that Matt, Patricia, we'll survive the season that'll be tweeted about, I'm sure. That's very good. Well, the one thing that hasn't changed the quality of your work. It has been excellence time and time again before sat down to call you. I was thinking like I've no mix about nineteen eighty seven or so eighty six eighty seven. So our relationship spans over thirty years. You've been a friend. You've been an example, you've been a mentor. I thank you for all that and more and I congratulate you on the release of your new book. The next person you meet in heaven atom, it's a pleasure to talk to you and you know, I have always taken great pride in watching you advance in your career and your perfectly sample of someone who yeah, I helped to at one point when you were very young and you were a kid in Michigan and you know, you helped me research. The book bow about Bo sham Boeckler. But all I did was sort of help you up to a level that you were going to get to one way or another, and then watch you climb much higher than me. And and and see what Vance and no one has been happier or prouder of watching someone who deserves to be where he is than I am view over the years. And you know, you continue to do great work, and you did it back then. I mean for for those kids who are out listening to your podcast, you learn something that I learned to, which was your first job don't ask how much it's gonna pay f- what's going to teach you. And you know, my first job, I volunteered for newspaper and work for six months without getting paid, and I learned everything you. I don't remember if I paid you, I paid you something, but whatever it was was a much or maybe it was nothing, but I know you learned a lot about about, you know how to research and how to report and you are still doing that today. So you know, I'm sure at some point you're helping some young person get started on their career, and so that's how the cycle continues. Again, I, I was your one of your research assistance for the book and then you call me for five. And you said you're into the project. He said, there's only one thing I need from you. I have not been able to get hold of Jimmy Walker if you can get a hold of Jimmy Walker, please let me know in twenty four hours later, I got you number to get a hold of Jimmy Walker turned out to be like the highlight of that book when I went and that's Jalen rose. Dad examine rose, had never met, and you found him or found his number. I called him a met him in Atlanta. I wanna say Georgia in some park, you know, like I drove some part where families were having hot dog, you know things and barbecues and stuff when we met in this park, and it was wondering to white jumpsuit. Remember, white tracksuit and no one had found him not to talk to him and I ended up, you know anyone of about Jalen and then went back and told jail in about him and gave Jalen the number. And I don't think I don't know if jailing. He didn't call them right away. I think venture they spoke and you were instrumental in that, you know? So. I helped you helped you with the fab five and my efforts were so instrumental to your success at the first time you didn't use me where was for Tuesday's mooring. You see how that impacted given slow you down? Well, you lifted me up to that level and then I was on my own. Well, I, I would not be where I am today without you. And I sincerely mean that and I thank you for that. And I love you for that shit. I'm great to talk. Thank you. We'll be back in a moment with your ask Adam questions, but now's the perfect time to tell you about hotel tonight, hotel tonight partners with also motels to help them sell their own sold rooms, which means you getting credible deals. The cool thing is they only work with hotels. They think you'll love and assure profiles of each hotel with all the info you need to know and pictures of what the rooms really look like. 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First of all, since we've heard from our fine loyal listener, so figured we'd bring back the ask Adam segment today, and we may as well call you dominance because you just brought up the fact that the trade deadline's a week away in not surprisingly, that's what a lot of our callers wanted to talk about this one. This is Chris Nair from the small town Springs Colorado. My question for you is, is it more likely that the eagles make a deal for patching you're sitting or for running back like, say Jordan Howard or maybe on Bill. Well, Chris Christian pagosa springs. You left l. Shawn McCoy guy that the heels once called on one time. Now, again, some interesting names, they're the one thing about philidelphia's to me, they are one of the most aggressive teams in the league, and it's almost like you give your kid twenty dollars to go to the mall. He's got twenty dollars to go spend. What is he going to go? Or she going to go and buy with that money. I almost feel like eagles have enough chips built up with eleven draft picks in the upcoming draft with the capital that they have to go make one deal. So do they try to go pry loose Patrick Peterson, the cardinals have insisted that they're not trading. I don't see Jordan. How we're getting from Chicago. I don't know where that talking conversations coming from Sean McCoy's name that's floating around out there. The eagles had made a call on Amari Cooper. So again, I just think when the eagles are struggling the way they are and they're still in the thick of things. And then if they're going to be busy and they're going to do their best to pull off a deadline deal like they did last year trading, a fourth round, pick to. Miami did JJ. I don't have the exact answer for you, Chris other than I expect Philadelphia to be active. And I'm, here's another question pertaining to another contender in what they might do at that deadline. Yes. And I was wondering if the charges and make any moves, even if it's a small trade for something to improve their chances or Super Bowl. Thank you. Well, he's what I would say this is that we go back and look. I don't recall a history of the Los Angeles chargers being ultra aggressive at the trade deadline. That's not to say that they wouldn't do something if it benefited the team. But when we go back and look at the five deals that were made at the deadline last year in the three that have already been made this you, none of them have involved the chargers. Typically, that's not been their pattern and while we're talking about the eagles being aggressive, I don't see that now if an opportunity presented itself, but I don't see. I'm not aware of anything shall we say at this point in time involved in the chargers doesn't mean it came up, but I'm not aware of anything. Move away from the trade deadline for these last two questions. First one about the jets calling from Brooklyn. I am a statically hopeful and pathetically voile jets fan. And out side of our young quarterback being the age that he is needing to develop his instincts needing develop his competence. What do you think is the biggest thing hindering the jets forward progress. At this point, please. God. Well, Tiffany in Brooklyn, have a little patience. I believe the jets arrow is pointing up. I believe they've begun to accumulate a lot of good young talent, and I think it's going to click at some point in time you're sooner rather than later. I know it's not where you want right now in the jets are maddening team and living in New York with so many frustrated jet fans who lack hope. I would say that there are better days ahead. I think the jets also will be looking at the trade deadline if they could add any talent, they've got cap space galore coming up to add more free agents. They've got the key piece in place at the quarterback position. A lot of people believe Sam darnold is going to be the guy and and he reminds me a little bit, of course in Winston, his rookie year because a lot of people looked at wins during his rookie year and said, well, is this guy going to be the answer? And there were some Sundays. He looked really good and other sons. You say, I, I don't know, and it's not entirely dissimilar with sand and then their second year course winds just took off and I think it's going to be similar was Sam darnold. They've gotta get better up front on the offense of line. That may be the biggest thing the team needs to do. They've got to protect their franchise better than they have and ensure that they go on and get some of these offensive lineman this coming off season so that they can protect him. And if they do that, I think he can be like course once in the second year. Of course, wench was vying for the NFL MVP were before he tore up his knee. Last December and Elaine, I, but I really believe Tiffany in Brooklyn that the jets are on the right track. Let's stay in New York. For the final Ascott question the week had like just finish watching football game, and we saw the giants go to when they were down by eight and talking to how analytical move just football come over l. ever told temporarily game all the fuddy coaches, looking numbers, moral, l, like these has become thanks. Well, Mike, I think that's been a trend elite for a long time. I don't think it's anything new. I think that many offices the Browns turned over their front office to before they fired some people and many teams. Almost all the teams. Every team has analytics people in place, and we know the effect it's had in baseball, and I think it's had a similar effect in football. I don't think it's relevant. There are still old school people old, still coaches, front office members who liked to do things their way that don't rely on analytics. I've had people say to me, longtime. Oh managers, hey, there are some things that numbers just can't see and judging gauge and that's why you see old time scouts personnel director GM's show up at college games to watch the way a guy interacts with his teammates to see the way behaves in the huddle to see how it handles a big play or a big loss or whatever it may be. So analytics have their place in the NFL. They've played a prominent role for a while. I don't see anything new. I haven't heard it associated too often with a play call like you're talking about there, but they definitely have a spot in the NFL. Thank you. Everyone who submitted and ask Adam question this week in reminder if you'd like to do so. Moving forward. Just call eight six. Oh, five, six, five, seven, seven, nine leave your name and question, and if it's good enough, you'll make the pumpkin. So thank you to the listener for all those questions this week and special. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 293 - NFL Fan Waivers. Will NBA Players Stay In the Bubble?

The Sports Reporters

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 293 - NFL Fan Waivers. Will NBA Players Stay In the Bubble?

"The, Winning journalists new. York Times fillers don't. Know opinion left unsaid and Institution for Sports, talk and information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Mike Luba and Mitch Albom her. Mike Rubric Your Daily News. MLB DOT COM. And Mitch Albom of the Detroit free. Press and this is sports reporters podcast. We start today with the NFL which as it prepares to start. It's whatever it's GonNa be season, Corona. Virus more and more shifting is going on and later in the program. We'll talk about the one thing that doesn't shift. which is the Washington Redskins name? But right now, the the NFL is talking about number one. Canceling two of its preseason games which we predicted here. A week ago, and number two contemplating asking fans to sign waivers before they come in. To the Games stating that if they should go home with corona virus, in addition to their twelve dollars beer, and they're and they're souvenir pennant. They won't hold the team responsible. First of all Mike. I didn't think they were going to be any chance. I thought we had agreed to weren't going to be any fans now. Apparently they want to. Float a trial balloon and see if this works as well as trump rally did in Tulsa your thoughts yeah. Mitch isn't this typically passive aggressive of the national football. League they haven't said officially that they're going to ask fans to sign waivers. They're just saying they're considering that, so they they they float these trial balloons, and sometimes they pull them back and sometimes. Sometimes they follow through in it. Okay, here's what we know about. Those waivers to people signed in Tulsa for the trump rally. Numbers have spiked since then Tulsa, ok and you as you looked into. The crowd is only six thousand people that night in a nineteen thousand seat arena. You saw how few mask there were now at the same time the NFL. Is Floating Floating this twelve balloon, they're also encouraging people to to wear masks. So what they're saying is please wear mass if we can somehow convince you. To put yourself at risk by sitting in a stadium. I don't know whether it would be a quarter full or ten percent for I. Don't Know How many people they think is going to improve the optics of what this is going to look like if they ever start and Mitch. The backdrop of all of this is is the numbers we see every night because of this shoddy reopening. Of the number, spiking from coast to coast, and especially in the South West and especially in Texas and Arizona and places like that I. Think it's insane. I more simple question. When did they? Start talking about. Having fans 'cause I. Ever actually said they were gonNA. Play in front of an. Empty. I don't think they ever actually came out and say we're going to play. Finless Games fall. Maybe I meant. Is that that in your opinion? Part of the same Hubris of the NFL that we're different than everybody else and we? We will not put a product out. That doesn't have crowd noise and fans that we can cut to and maybe strategically. Position in the stand so that it looks like there's more people than there are. Is that what this is about? Mitch I think the seat here. The conceit here is we're bigger than anybody else, and you wait and see if we dropped ticket, prices and I don't even know what their. Teams are already talking to their. Season ticket holders. I don't even know what they might drop the prices to be, but they love us so much. We're so big. That they're willing to put themselves at risk in greater numbers than in any other sport basketball, Empty Arenas Baseball empty stadiums to come watch our game starting in September, even though Mitch. I say this all the time and these conversations. We have even though we have been saying for months. We don't think they're gonNA. Start on time in September. They don't well I. Don't believe that they will. I think that the fact that you're seeing them. Push back to their cutting out. Two of the preseason games I said they might call it down to one right, but apparently they feel that they need those those two in the middle. Nobody plays in the first one and nobody plays in the last one but they also are nodding to the fact that the players are going to require more time to get in shape and they're going to be players who show up with corona. As. We're seeing in baseball and basketball. Before the really gathered there already getting tested in their their testing positive, so those that are gonNA show up going to need two weeks out before they can begin to train, and so they're gonNA. WanNa push the start of the season back as far as they can, and I'm predicting right here. It's not starting on time. If it ends up starting at all, they'll end up having to figure out how to push things back or truncated the season, and in some way, but the fact that they're considering waivers fans first of all. Against Lawsuits, Mitch. You're about I mean I. Guess Everybody looks at the NFL and says well. They make so much money. If I could ever get the basis of a lawsuit, I take it because they were just give me money to go away, but on the other hand. How the hell you gonNA prove. That you got corona virus football game. How can you prove that you didn't get it on your way to the football game in the car? How do you prove that you didn't get it on your way home? From the no-one? There's no test that can identify the where and when it's not a GPS test that says okay. Here's exactly where you were when you got. The virus doesn't work like that. So by the time you figure out you've got it. which is going to be, it can be four or five. Five let's you did get it a game. It can be a four or five day just station period before you use. Do you have any reason to believe that you have? If you get any symptoms, sometimes, you don't get symptoms at all. By the time those four or five days pass, you could have been anywhere and so i. don't know what these waivers are. GonNa protect anybody from or allow anybody to do. It just seems to me to send a message out that the NFL knows it's doing something wrong. Therefore, wants you to sign off on it, which is ridiculous to me? Would you go, Mike? We're in an interesting position here. Both of us are still. Covered Games and I have gone to almost every lions home game at least the ones that mattered Fourtou for the last. You know ever since I've been in Detroit three decades. I'm not going to a game now to cover it. Now I don't think any sports. Writers are think they're basically going to not going to be able to interview. The players probably going to be in a different area and you're GonNa Watch, television and take quotes from that. You're not going into the locker room, so if the people who cover it aren't going to go. Why would the people who are who are watching could do the same thing at home WanNa go anyhow. Which I want to read you something from the the piece that I've read about these waivers and I I read it a from a writer named Ryan Dunleavy in the New York Post okay. Stay with me on this. This is kind of interesting. Some teams including the giants and jets told season ticket holders. They can skip the twenty twenty season. Get a refund or credit for any payments already submitted. They still would hold priority for renewing season tickets in two thousand, twenty one, but the NFL wants to draw fans and operate as close to normal as possible which by the way let me just add this. That's an insane notion leaving it to teams to develop plans in accordance with state and local. Regulations for Managing Crowds Mitch. How well did it work? When trump thought he could lay out the regulations on the states and make them decide so what you ended up with one plan in New York and another kind of plan in California and another kind of plant, in Florida and another kind of plan in Texas, so the idea that there isn't going to be a comprehensive league edict about how this would work if they could ever figured out how to make it, work is insane, and and and it shows you. How, Flying Blind, these sports leagues are right now. Okay, the one that's closest starting is baseball, but they have made no attempt to even suggest that they're going to have fans anytime soon. Okay, they're opening up to empty ballparks. The NFL of the NBA, if this bubble thing and we're GONNA, talk about that in a minute actually happens. They're going to play an empty gyms. Okay? The NFL thinks that they are different that they are above these conversations. Except nobody's above this virus, nobody can insulate itself a from this virus. You they're to me. They're inasmuch denial as college football as Mitch. Well. College football is a whole other issue which we're also going to talk about here but I agree with you there in there in a state of denial, they don't have any idea. When you put one hundred people together for a game, which is pretty much what you're going to have a on each team by the time you account for players. Support, Staff Personnel Coaching Staff, etc, and no one has talked about how especially if you play in an indoor stadium, how much the virus transmits during a game. You know you've got on any given play. You've got four or five guys who are lining up against four or five other guys. Inches apart play after play after play heaving breath now they're not wearing masks. No one has done any study on this whatsoever. There's been studies about how close a doctor can get to a patient. How long you considered a waiting room there? They're a handful that indicate that it's not good to be Longley exposed to someone breathing. Right at you. No one has done it. On any level with football between LINEMAN. But it seems to me pretty logical that if you're in an indoor arena. As a lot of the places, and you are inches away from somebody head to head, and then after you're done breathing at them while the quarterback Osun. Blue Ninety, seven. All that time and you'RE GONNA Omaha? Then? They checked the playoff and they lay it even, but and and then at the end of it. You just get closer to the guy by going right up in his grill. It seems to me you're going to be breathing right in the guy's face, and as soon as they start to notice a spike in linemen. Getting this thing. That's when they'll. They'll take the whole game off the table so it all of. Of, this is whistling past the graveyard in my opinion, all of it all sports, but particularly football and basketball were were guys are in each other's faces, and they haven't even begun to address that. Mike and this thing about waivers is just I assume the last thing they're thinking about right now. On the linemen, blitzing and Brady just say hey, Whoa, WHOA WHOA, WHOA! Did you ever temperature taken in the locker? Room? Well and Brady them throws the pass. Okay, here's. What I want to tell you one. Of My favorite aspects of the story I wrote a book read about the liability, but first a reminder that we're sponsored. By our friends at Geiko. Did. You know that right now. GEICO is offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car, motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money Geico could already save you. 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One intractable area of the NFL that has never been able to be moved by a commissioner, and not by the owner of the team, certainly not the current owner of the team who's had it for the better part of the last two decades is the name Redskins associated with the Washington franchise and now given all the protests that are going on. It's not surprising that there is a renewed call for Washington to lose the Redskins name. Investment firms and shareholders have asked Nike Fedex and Pepsi to end their relationship with Washington's team. Until the Redskins name is changed this according to a report, on sports illustrated. That shouldn't surprise anybody. It's happened before, nor should it surprise anybody that Dan Snyder seems to have no interest in changing this team name I will say what I've said over the years, and this is a debate that seems to come up every couple years, no matter what over some issue or whatever? What is the big deal? Honestly, we are, if the Detroit lions where I lived decided to WanNa. Call themselves the Detroit. bearcats right I think we'd get over in about fourteen minutes. It's can wear the same colors play in the same arena. They you go to the same place. The tickets cost the same. The players are the same why. Does Washington especially at this particular time. Hold onto this name which clearly. In today's Day and age is a slur and apparently stems from a an owner who was clearly a. A bigot by practice anyhow and and didn't want to integrate the league. They've already taken his statue down by the way. Why Mike you're on the east coast. Why do they cling to this? As if it is you know the the family crest. Because state is one of the worst donors in sports. He is a stubborn pigheaded man. I know that sounds redundant when you great him against other. Owners NFL Richmond. Yeah and it's a low bar. Okay for stubborn and pig headed. Okay, this would have been the perfect time for him to take the high road on. What is a racist nickname and Mitch and I were talking about this before we started today I'd love the notion that it's some sort of proud part of NFL history. The Washington redskins okay. And I know I'm saying this to my friend WHO's team hasn't won an NFL championship since one thousand, nine, hundred, fifty seven in Detroit, okay. Mich here's how many NFL championships. The redskins have won since the beginning of time. To. Nine thousand nine hundred NFL championship to nine, hundred, fifty, seven, nine, hundred, forty four, then they won three superbowls under Joe Gibbs okay, that's fine. That was a glorious time in Redskins history the last super bowl. They one was three decades ago and now he's dug in on this I, you know. At least the Cleveland Indians have gotten rid of chief Wahoo okay, and they probably and even the Atlanta Braves I. I know that they all have they. You know how they parse this thing. Braves means one thing. redskins means another Indians means another okay. Throw them all out and guess what Mitch the minute they changed. The nickname you know would happen, they would. They would create new logos new merchandising. No Mitch, the merchandising would go through the roof. They'd sell their old stuff. And then everybody would start buying their new stuff right new, Jersey change colors while you're at it, and you get to all your stars, all over again has to have the new version of the Jersey it's. It's a money maker, but you you get to how many times when you refer to the team or refer the game. And Dallas beat Washington thirteenth. Say the name of the of of the Mascot or The team say Washington nobody's forcing them to lose Washington. They get to keep that part of it and you know on the TV show. I started calling him the Washington Washington's. Easy, this is just a I mean honestly I feel like we've talked about it for about four minutes and I feel like we've already exhausted all the arguments that could be made for keeping it and it just it's one of those obvious obvious things like the safety of children or the the need for oxygen. It's just right in front of you wouldn't hurt. Anybody and I don't know besides Snyder. One person who would who would have some kind of a legitimate reason to say, how could you do this? It doesn't change a damn. Teams have changed their names before teams have changed cities more. That's what's crazy about the NFL. They'll allow a team to pick up in the middle of the night and drive itself in trucks to a new city and establish itself there. Hello by Brown's Hello Baltimore. Colts, yeah exactly exactly change everything about it, and that was okay, but oh no, we can't have them change and an insulting. Team name, it's and I wish I. Wish advertisers and sponsors would get involved, but guys is rich as Snyder don't care and Mitch. You always wonder you know in this time in America when we always talk about the president playing to his base, okay. WHO's Snyder's based on this? Who who who who among the Redskins fan base and less other than the most stubborn Jim Oaks in the land? Think this is a good thing to continue to call their team. The Washington redskins okay in time. When social justice is sweeping the land. Would it be a small thing? Yeah, it would be a small thing, but it would be the right thing, but to ask guys like Snyder. To Do, the right thing is like asking them to explain quantum theory to you. All right we're going to shift and talk about the NBA and will players do the right thing I, a word from good friends at Harry. Just. How much money could you save in one year? 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So we have expressed on this program our doubts as to whether taking a bunch of NBA teams locking them up in Orlando Florida throwing away the key and telling them that they can't be with their wives or girlfriends or family members until the second round of the playoffs, which means they might be a month thin before that happens is not a good idea is probably not going to work well. We are echoed now by a number of sources including a player. Who's going to be there? Damian Lillard from the portrait Portland Trailblazers said this yesterday. When asked about do you think that the players will follow the rules? My confidence eight grade. My Confidence Inc great because you're telling me, you're going to have twenty two teams full of players following all the rules when we have one hundred percent freedom, everybody don't follow all the rules. I don't have much confidence. Thank, you Damian it may not have been as eloquent, but it is fine. It says exactly what we've been saying for. A long time with is come on really an a league that has troubles as he points out keeping guys out of strip. Clubs out of clubs period, and and and and and violated while they don't have team curfews anymore, but the groupies that follow the sport, and all the rest of it all of a sudden. They're going to be choirboys. They're going to bring their model airplanes into the room. And you're just gonNA work on those. Puzzles Puzzles. Puzzles in my family. During the coronavirus mix the add. Some five hundred pieces some thousand pieces, so I can see like you know the the three four four on a team to sitting around a big coffee table doing by, and what's going to be interesting here? Mike is that there will be no reporters. Down in this bubble to track any of this guy so this will become tmz territory. This will become if players show up at some club want sit in the back, or whatever, and there's some bartender waiter. Who's got a cell phone. That can video them. That's the only way that people are gonNA find out if they did violate rules because it's. It's not like you know the. Report is going to call somebody who covers the the L. A. Lot. Out there and says hey I hear tell that they're in this club. Quick, go down there and check it out not going to happen so I mean. Do you have confidence that the players are going to last that long without a social life inside? Inside a bubble in Orlando, no and Mitch. You know it disturbs us at. This is a great idea. The they have this facility. This is before things went wire in the state of Florida. which is a whole nother issue about the way the numbers are spiking in Florida. You know you've heard me say this before. The virus looks at bubbles and say. Bring on your stink bubble. Okay and see if it can stop me. I was talking to a basketball coach the other day and I said. How do you think this is going to work? Pro Basketball coach. I think this is GonNa work. He laughed he goes. It'll work for about two weeks and Mitch that may be on the high side. Because once they go out. What do they bring back in? What do they bring back in? When they're when they say. I got to go to a club. have to. I have to hear some music I. have to I to see people I don't want to just see my teammates I'm not sure that everybody played this all the way out and gamed it all the way out when they deciding Lee. Interestingly, as you're saying that I'm thinking they may benefit from the fact that Florida is undergoing such a surge because of Florida follows California Michigan here now to some degree and we're not. We're not experiencing anything like what's going on in Florida some what's happened is in Arizona. Mitch could have. But, but my point is. They make clothes all those places right by the time the NBA gets there. There may not be any clubs to go to. All those restaurants may be reclosed again the clubs the bars maybe reclosed again. It could be the best thing that happened in the NBA is. We want to go to a club, but there aren't any open, and there's really really no place else to go. Let guys there has been for a stretch of time here in individual state. Of course, it's a little less tempting for players. We're just being realistic here. We're all GROWNUPS. It's less tempting for players when they're at home with their wives, your kids to suddenly say I need to disappear for a while and go to a club than it is when they're on the road with just their teammates, and the guys say hey, we're all going out together. that is not going to happen if there's no place to go to, and that could probably be the best medicine that the NBA could hope for is that Florida as a state closes back down in terms of recreational entertainment otherwise I just don't see how this the the bottom's going to hold on this now it's it's again. These are wealthy young men. These are wealthy young men, and but they keep. They keep pulling the rug out from under everybody. The. New York has been awfully smart. I mean governor Cuomo has been great on Mrs, his his daily briefings at the height of the virus like a tutorial on how you're supposed to lead okay, but all of a sudden guess. What rescued you restaurants? You can't go back to restaurants now because he's reacting to news on the ground, but whatever the news on the ground is. These guys aren't going to like going off to summer camp. Okay, and it's it's. It's the the world's longest summer. Camp I I don't know how long the season is GonNa last end to end if they play it. Okay, they start the. Twenty four th and I think they said they end in October so you're talking about a week in July. All of August, all of September and part of October so that's close to three month if you go all the way to the finals, whose first player to go over the wall. They're going to have those spotlights like in Shawkshank. The greatest the greatest scape Stevia, we'd ride his motorcycle off the ground, and then, and then there's going to be you know all the well. What was what was so important? Where did he have to go? What was important? That's going to turn into a story. I I just think it's got disaster written all over it, and this is as you pointed out Mike, the best prepared of the sports. This is the best. Yes, I've taken my hat off to silver I thought he tried to tried in every way, and then in theory, this is the way it should work a hermetically sealed thing but. But even silver. This week was quoted as saying. I can't say one hundred percent that this is going to happen anymore. A you know he. He has started to sound a little doubtful, and he's very realistic commissioner and he is saying I you know we don't know. Look what's happening. Especially, we we we, we pick Florida thinking we were going to be safe and it might have been the dumbest state now in hindsight to try to try to plop down and even going through airports, and all the rest of it. You don't know what you're going to be exposed to, but I I think. They had the best shot and if they if they don't work, if if NBA doesn't work, I. Don't I don't think that any of the other ones are GonNa work that. Just made me think of one of my favorite stories about one of my favorite athletes of all time the late great Max McGee, the Star of Super, Bowl, one after being out until eight o'clock in the morning Max was a delightful and very bad boy. Okay, and Lombardi before Super Bowl I think it was that Super Bowl instituted a one time only ten thousand dollar fine for breaking curfew. And when he finished announcing that, too the packers, he looked at McGee, and he said Max. When you go out tonight. Take me with you because I. Want to know what it is you're doing. That is worth ten thousand dollars. And so fine is probably fine, probably about the same right now, actually but you're right I don't know how they know. Mitch how! You know the great. Carl Reiner died the other day and. There was a famous. Jerry Seinfeld Comedians, getting coffee and Cari whenever it's called Okay and the best they ever did was with Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks who have been? Best friends for over sixty years and into their nineties. We're having dinner every night. They'd set up little television tables. If you haven't seen it, it's fantastic. Okay, and then they would watch a movie and Seinfeld ask them what kind of movies they preferred and I forget whether there's Reiner Brooks anything that includes this line. Secure the perimeter. And? And how are they going to secure the perimeter at Disneyworld? Okay? How are they going to do that and once? They can't secure the perimeter. How much danger does everybody else get in whether the clubs or cl are closed or not? Guys are going to WANNA. Go out and they're going to go out somewhere. I don't know where they're going to go out, but when they come back. If one of them brings the virus back with him, what happens then? Well there's since we're jumping around from sport to sport in response to the coronavirus we can't. Not, get to college football, because they they may be the most responsible but first. A word from our friends at GEICO. Hey friends. Did you know that right now? GEICO is offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car. Motorcycle RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money GEICO. Could already save you. So, what are you waiting for? Your dog to make you breakfast in bed with Belgian waffles and fresh fruit compote. As, nice, as that sounds. That's probably never gonNA HAP, but at least there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more. Okay College football. This was very interesting they were in front of a congressional committee. The NCAA was not about corona virus, but about the players an ongoing issue, etc, etc, but the hearing. Kind of shifted over to the question of Corona virus, and the plans that they have, and if you read a story on SL, DOT com. You'll see that Senator Richard Blumenthal. Was Grilling. Ohio State President Emeritus Michael Drake, and he was basically saying. Will you commit? Will you commit as a sounded like the McCarthy hearings you know Sir you know. Will you commit? What was he committing to? What was he grilling him on? Releasing, the number of positive virus cases amongst the athletes, and I did not realize shame on me for not knowing this that apparently close to half of the Division One football schools. Have not committed or don't even plan to let the public know how many of their athletes are coming down with corona virus. I think because we have heard it from Clemson and Alabama, and some of the other ones. You just figure well. That's going to be the norm apparently Ohio. State as one major example is not telling anybody and doesn't plan on telling anybody and this guy. Would not commit to it. He said it's a hip issue. That, I have the authority finally admitted. It's appropriate to do it, but didn't necessarily commit to doing it himself Mike. Did you know about that? No I didn't. Mitch and I was surprised the other day Brian cashman general manager of the Yankees, said this guy test positive for corona virus, if and when baseball returns. They're not going to say he did. So when. Would Aaron judge. Just picking it ain't here. Just go out to right field one day. We're going to have to figure things out process. There was a story the other day that actually. Was So smart because something a football coach said this is Chris Climb the new head coach at Kansas State. And they tested the players went back in June. Ninety of them tested negative. Okay, at that time all right? The kids saw the numbers. And saw ninety four ninety, and I know they relaxed I think we've probably all relaxed and said good. We're over a big hurdle, but that hurdle became a lot bigger because what kids do on a Friday night and a Saturday and being around their friends. How many times have we talked about such and going to the lake? And wherever else kids go is something? We can't control and we can see Mich. we continue to hear these. These numbers okay, and how do they start a season? If they don't want to tell us when we already know, the Clemson's had what thirty seven players test positive so far thirty seven. That's a lot of players I guess I. Guess It, Ohio State you just going to have to wait and see that when they run onto the field, they're only going to have enough players to go between the twenty and thirty yard line and. I got. The hitch. The I daughter in the band. It'll just be oh. And we can all say oh, they all have corona virus aches. Mitch everything. We've been talking about with this thing for months. It's like whack a mole. Okay, it's like wackle every time you think you camped one down. Four others pop up. Okay, it's for my. My son was talking about some of the other day. He said every time you check two boxes off three more empty boxes show up, okay, and that's what's happening in college, football and talk about it, not being sustainable, trying to contain it even in a bubble at Disneyworld Michie, said this fifty times. Try doing it at a college campus. Where the first thing they do when they've finished practice on Friday is go to a party on Friday night. It's impossible and college campuses with their almost at least to those of us old enough to have gone to college at a different time. They're almost reverence for the rights of students to not interfere with them in any way, shape or form, not limit their activities, not touch on any of their rights, including apparently the right to party. There's just no way that you're not gonNA. have outbreaks on campuses all over the place if you have had outbreaks in bars. Where the average age is eighteen to twenty, four, twenty, five of these areas where you see outbreaks in bars, and it's happening all across the country. Then you are going to have outbreaks on college campuses, and if you've got college campuses that don't want to infringe on Hippo, laws don't want him fringe on privacy laws, and and certainly therefore will not infringe on saying to the kids. Hey, we're going to if we if we catch you. Hosting a party in your dorm we're going to expel you. which is the way that those of us old enough to remember the word expel? Punishment was meted out. That's not going to happen in today's world. It's the that anyone who thinks that they still expel people. You D- Get expelled, but for a whole lot of different things now that you get expelled for, but not for exercising your rights as an adult, which you instantly become when you step on a college campus at age eighteen now so I've I've said it before all. Continue to say it, I don't know how colleges are going to pull. Pull this off and Mike with the re closings in states like Arizona California Michigan Texas remember Texas, was talking about fifty percent occupancy for its football game for stadiums. Remember we're we're. We're on the way back and we're. We're GONNA allow up to fifty percent of and now they're pulling back and having having to change. If you can go backwards on this as a state, you can go backwards on this as a sport. Yep and it's going to happen. Mitch how about the Governor of Texas Abbott saying the other day that he's not listening to Dr Fauci anymore. Oh! Okay that would be like him saying yeah, and you know what else I'm not taking any stock tips from Warren. Buffett, either yeah, you WanNa know what I'm. GonNa do and science denying is what got us into this situation, Mitch. You know why we're not talking about a second wave because the first wave isn't over yet. Okay, and the idea that somehow college campuses are going to be some sort of safe zone. That's insane as anything else. We've talked about today. All right once again a we've concluded that while we're talking about sports and we continue to have lots to talk about. We're still not certain if any of the team ones are ever going to come back, we we, we live in hope. Meanwhile, we hang onto golf, which so far has been not too bad, and you know Alpha's becoming I. Don't know about you. My I've got a lot of friends who who are sports nuts who don't care that much for golf. Who are now watching golf? Okay! It's something it's on. Pitch I don't know if it was their intent to make the courses a little easier, but right now people like seeing guys shoot really low scores, sixty and sixty, one and sixty two's and. Somebody once said to me, we'll we'll. What do you like to watch me? Meaning me as a sports columnist in in in a guys talked about this might my whole adult life and I said if it's being played at a high level, and they're keeping score. I'll watch it, and that's what you just said about your friends. Who probably wouldn't normally watch all? Right, so good for golf. Hopefully it will continue. We'll be back here on Monday as we always are Mondays and Thursdays for the sports, reporters podcast Bob Ryan will rejoin us. We'll be a trio again, Hurt, leave a comment. If you didn't leave a comment. That's fine to leave rating. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 299 - MLB Opening Day 2020!

The Sports Reporters

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 299 - MLB Opening Day 2020!

"Award Winning Journalists New York Times bestsellers don't topic. Opinion left unsaid an institution for Sports, talk and information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Mike Luba in Mitchell, I am. New York Daily News Mlb, DOT, com. Mitch Albom, the Detroit Free Press and welcome to the sports. Reporters podcast We're doing a duo today Bob. Ryan will join us again next time and boy finally open day opening day of something I'll take anything but opening day of baseball his tonight. Hopefully they won't get rained out as the baseball has reached that point in the season of where it actually is going to begin, I have to say I have my doubts. We'd ever even get to today and even if they play five games and then cancel the season. It's a little further than I thought we were going to get Mike. What are we looking at here? There are still huge questions. As they go into the opening pitch tonight about the play offs and about where Toronto going to play and other things like that. What are you expecting from this crazy season? I watched some games over the weekend, and I looked in on some games yesterday, and it's obviously not the same as Golf I. don't even it's not even on my brain that there's no galleries in golf I'm just watching. Guys hit shots, and it looks completely normal. Baseball's different whether they put those cut out people behind the plate or not. It's going to take some getting used to I. Actually think I watched some NBA scrimmages yesterday. It's GONNA take way more to get used to that in basketball than it is in baseball, we'll get tight shots of the and all that other stuff. Okay Mitch! I went through yesterday and read all of the protocols that they have in place. The instant response testing on a daily basis. It's extraordinary. It is extraordinary as you say Mitch extrordinary that we got to this day. Okay and. We've talked about this for months. We hope that they don't start and then have to stop because of you know a quarter of this the situation on the ground. In certain states, it might get way worse, and then they've got to reexamine that, and but on this day we're. We're having this conversation. On on Thursday morning, the Yankees are supposed to the first pitch is supposed to be thrown at nationals park at seven eastern time, and then the dodgers are playing the giants in La later, there's a forecast of rain in Washington. Washington I don't know what's going to happen there. Okay, but just the fact that we've got there by First Pitch, Mitch they have to decide. I just became aware of this yesterday whether they want to expand the play offs from ten to sixteen teams in the way I understand it is. They've got to make that determination before a ball is put in play tonight. Well! They're going to be awfully busy today. That, you're talking about expanding your playoffs by more than fifty percent. This would really kind of turn baseball into a march madness type of situation. We've got sixteen teams that could presumably make the playoffs in a sixty game season. Dare I, say it. The Detroit Tigers just woke up and said anything is possible. I mean even even teams that are expecting to be lousy. Win Thirty Five Games. You could be in the playoffs. There's only thirty teams in thirty teams only sixty games I mean start doing the math on this sixteen teams sixty games of thirty team field. You're going to have a lot of teams in the playoffs you. You never would've expected to be in the playoffs, and and if they do do that, Mike I got to see well. How how many rounds of playoffs are we talking about? Then I can't even do that. Painted in over yet. Can they contain it in the month of October which they really liked to do? Okay, no Mitch the, so there's so many we've answered so many questions to get to those still so many. Oh my God, AB-. Got One for you. WHO THE BLUE! Jays I'm not even going to calm. The Toronto Blue Jays right now because they make good things. Blue Jays have wings because they're going to have to fly from city to city to play right now. They have no home I I've never seen anything like date. Rape have become a barnstorming team a out of the past where? Them down for those of you. Who didn't know about this? You know they considered Pittsburgh pretty close to to Toronto from from a physical driving point of view, not that that really matters because nobody's going to be living in Toronto. But they turned them down and I don't understand why Detroit is not in the consideration Detroit is is four hours from from Toronto in a drive, but I've never heard even as much as a whisper of it. They talk about Baltimore which I don't understand that either, but this is a huge huge disadvantage for the Toronto. I mean. It's it's. Tennis Center. And we talked about this Mitch and we talked about this the other day. They're in ascendant team. Sixteen the playoffs easily. Don't you think the shots kid and Kid Vlad's Kit. No, no, they're a team. People want to watch and they're going to get to watch him, but but you know they. They got screwed by their own country. Okay and understand why they did and when you say you know now that Baltimore's in play, you know Mitchell would be nice if they could bring Major League Baseball back to Baltimore. Don't you think so I? Do and and and Detroit would be the same. Same Man I don't even know what the problems are with the Tigers other than maybe there were way more overlapping home games with the Tigers in the Blue Jays that mitigated against that Ono this this. It's an amazing situation it's it's like one of those old forties musicals. Yeah, let's put the show on right here and stay awhile. My Dad's got a barn wait. We can't use my dad's barn. Okay, that's the wrong country, we. The wrong? Yeah, that would have been a bad movie if we gotta go find somebody else's bond, but that is where the Blue Jays are right now, and against the backdrop of anybody who's a sports fan and anybody who loves baseball the way we do the excitement of knowing that we're at least see one game tonight. Because anger ran in Los, Angeles Okay and we're hoping to see Garrett Cole Pitch Against Max Scherzer in Washington, so we've arrived at opening night Mitch, but there's never been an opening night. Night like this in the history of professional sports. We're all we are in uncharted territory. They honestly ought to be starting the season with the starter's pistol like an Olympic hundred meter dash because that's what this is. Baseball has always prided itself on taking its time and the famous line from Bull Durham. It's a long season and you've got to trust it not this year. It's a short season and you can't trust i. mean that's literally what it is and Mike, I don't say that to be flippant. Think about some consequences in a number of these were pointed out by an excellent article on ESPN DOT com today where the previewing the season there are all kinds of built in internal discussions and consequences for a season that lasts sixty games for example. You gotTA hotshot rookie. You think this could could make. Normally you bring them up. You've got a hundred and sixty games to try them out. This season you got sixty. And if he plays over a certain amount, it counts as a full year of service. What do you really want to know? Have A kid who might end up being a rock of your franchise potentially use up one year service at the most. He'll play sixty games, and if he if he flames out, and whatever you flame out early. It's not worth to you, so you may end up keeping that rookie. Stances, you would have on your team. You may end up keeping him down in the minors or not playing at all, because there are no minor leagues, so you've gotta take that kind of thing. into consideration another thing that they point out players who have a certain amount of service in you know all them towards free agency. There's all code both on. On the both on the team side and on the players side, there's some there's some talk about some players who might want to stick to their team. They'll get in exactly amount the what they need to camp, and then they'll say you know what I don't feel safe anymore I don't WanNa. Play the season anymore I. Don't think that could happen so. There are all kinds of things built into this sixty game. Thing and now if they add sixteen teams to the playoffs Mike, I mean on the one hand. It's a big piece of cheese in the trap. It's like ooh, wow, we can make on the other hand. What if you go all in with all your players and everything like that and the season gets canceled. With two weeks to go three weeks to go I mean if suddenly the flu season starts bringing a surge of corona virus back. You have gone all in with players and service, and all the rest of that stuff, and then you don't even get to the playoffs any because there are no play Mitch Mitch one of one of the magic numbers in the sport since the advent of wildcards is that you have to win eleven or twelve games in October to win the world series. The the nationals won twelve because they had to win a wildcard game all right, but it's usually eleven games. I don't I can't even process right now. How many postseason games the eventual winner will have to win! If they do go to sixteen teams, but in a sixty game season. You may have a twenty. You might have to in like twenty games like a third of that to win the world series and you know we talked about this before we started today. A lot of this! A lot of their thinking has to do with college football of all things, because if there's no college football in the month of October. You've got the NBA and you've got baseball. Okay, and they'll be fight talking about fighting for a piece of the NFL. If the NFL the NFL right, but I'm saying. The sports underneath the NFL because that's the Big Daddy. Okay but but baseball thinks it can clip off a lot of that college football audience, not that it's the same, but if you've got a triple a triple header every day and night of playoff baseball. They're probably thinking Oh, okay. That could help us out a lot and by the way. Here's the other thing that happened in baseball yesterday. The the Great Red Smith of one of our sports, riding giants and heroes. They somebody asked him one time why he always chose chose the players over the owners when there was a labor of. Labor dispute and read twinkled. His is said because I've never seen an owner riding a bicycle. Okay and. All of this economic turmoil, all of the money that is going to be lost because of no fans in the stands. What happened with bets yesterday Mitch what happened. What kind of contract he signed with his new team. The Los Angeles dodgers twelve years three, hundred, sixty five million dollar. Yeah because he's got one year twenty, seven million. Come to him now. Yup, so if you throw that in there, he's on a thirteen year thirty nine million dollar contract. Yeah, yeah, so obviously. The economics aren't so bad for the Los Angeles dodgers who are the favorite to win it all. They didn't put that one of the biggest contracts in the history of the sport and by the way God. Bless mookie Betts. bookie butts a great story. Baseball needs mookie Betts. Mitch. They don't have enough African American stars in the sport, of Willie, mays and Hank Aaron and Jackie Robinson. He is he is? He doesn't look like a tight end. He's five nine. He came up as a middle infielder. He was a fifth round draft choice. Oh God, bless mookie Betts for playing himself in his sport into into a deal like this, but it shows you when something like this happens. Okay, it's it's not like we're ever going to have to run a going out of business sale for the owners in all of all of the. Having, said that, and that averages out by the way thirty million dollars, a year over thirteen years takes until he's forty years old. Having said all that the reason that they're going to do this. Sixteen you know qualify for the playoffs if they do. Is Money minded clearly money, but it's a lot more money to be made in post-season Games and ratings and TV broadcasts, and there are regular season games, so they're betting everything that that the things will be safe and things will work out and if they are then, you're going to want more more playoffs more plasma place. I mean Mike Think about this year this twenty twenty year. We've lost regular season left and right regular season hockey regular season, basketball regular season baseball preseason football everything is now geared towards. Can we just basically start our sport in the playoffs? Basically, they're doing everything. They can to elongate playoffs and eliminate regular season. So you've got the NBA. Which essentially starting it's restarting early in the playoffs got eight games to play. You've got hockey which is essentially going right to the playoffs. You've got baseball which now want to get the sixty games over with this quickly as a cancer that they can as you point out how you have to win twenty more. Season and football is eliminating preseason and who knows they may shorten their season just to get to the playoffs, too, so it is. It is a Jackpot for sports. Fans who recite the old adage I really don't care about sports until the playoffs. You basically that's what sports are right now, even the sixty. Sixty game regular season is a playoff. Your whole approach to it if they have sixteen games in Mike, Think about the approach that managers GonNa take every single game. We all know that there are certain baseball games. Sad, we just don't have tonight. Forget it, you know you're behind by five runs in the seventh inning. Forget it. We're not catching. They're not giving up now I mean they're. They're going to be moving players around and pictures around and all the rest of it to try to make sure they get. Get. Every one win is so important, and this leads to a whole other element of what's going to happen here, not only the emphasis on every single game, but Mike injuries because they are starting to play baseball there several teams who literally when they play either tonight or tomorrow for the first time it will be the first competitive baseball game including exhibition games because some teams didn't even play any exhibition games that these guys are playing. Since the the interest squad games, they were playing back in March you. Months and now they're going for broke I. Mean every game matters if you don't think arms going to are going to pop and muscles are GonNa, pop and hamstrings are GonNa pop from guys who just are going from zero to sixty overnight. You don't understand sports. There's going to be a long injury list in baseball early on I want to remind everybody re sponsored by Guy Couples. Did you know that right now? GEICO is offering an extra. Extra fifteen percent credit on car, motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifty percent on top of the money Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your dog to make you breakfast in bed? With Belgian waffles of fresh fruit compote as nice as that sounds, that's probably never going to happen, but at least there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit. Dot Com to learn more mix. What the what the season you just described in baseball. It's like they've stolen an old cliche from basketball. You only have to show up for the last two minutes. Okay of a game. And when you look at injuries, just injuries, pitchers are going to get hurt. I believe pitchers are going to be the most vulnerable. You're absolutely right. Marcus stroman has a calf injury. He is, he was counted on to be a frontline starter for the New York mets, and when you say, he will be gone for several weeks. Okay several weeks didn't sound like a lot. In the old world. Several weeks is half a season or more in in. In this configuration of baseball, so yeah and everybody I've talked to in baseball believes the pitchers will be the most vul- vulnerable and imagine imagine if Garrett Cole, who signed that three hundred twenty four million dollar contract. Forget about his arm. Okay, he seemed to be pretty indestructible so far grip, but what if he gets a leg, injury or something that keeps him out for even twenty games and the other thing that expanded playoffs. Do and we've seen this a million times in sports. It does set up the possibility of an outlier champion. You can't ignore the fact, okay. You know it's like the old line about boxing. The longer the superior fighter carries an inferior fighter into the later rounds. One Punch can knock him out that you know that is the risks they run. You know 'cause they'd love to have a New York. Los Angeles World Series this year. The risk you run, is it? Somebody has a hot week. Okay? Somebody with a sub. Five hundred record has a hot week and knocks off one of the big boys right well. That's why I really want to see if they do expand these playoffs. What the configuration is heaven forbid they have a three game series. You know five game series or already weird enough in baseball, and and and can do exactly what you just said. You can get a team that you don't figure to be there. And they get hotter or they knock out the other guy starting pitcher their star and suddenly boom. They win three games out of five now. If you're talking about seven game series, all the way around that certainly is going to favor the stronger in deeper team and stronger and deeper is what's GonNa matter here. Mike, I mean as you start to predict the teams and I think this is I'd like to hear who you think is going to emerge on top here, but what seems to be a common consensus. Is Not just hyperbole about the dodgers and the Yankees. which would you keep hearing over and over again isn't just because they got star players. It's because they're deep, and so if they lose a star player, they've got other ones to replace that star player where there's some teams that are kind of hanging on a couple of key guys. And if they go out, you know where they're gonNA go I. Mean You know we? We look at Mickey here in Detroit? Basically, there's there's the games that Mickey plays and there's a game to make dozen play. You know because the rest of the team is. Is this essentially young guys are working on the way up so. I. I would tend to agree in this case. I hate to go with the chalk, but I would tend to agree with the Yankee dodger thing, just because clearly talent wise, they are the deepest. Do you concur? No. Listen when you look at how loaded these two teams are. You can't imagine a scenario where even this kind of Sprint Caesar would sidetracking but Mitch remember something. How many games did the dodgers win last year? Oh, I! Know one hundred and six. The Yankees had a record number of people on the injury list. They only had a Giancarlo Stanton for eighteen games last season. Aaron Judge Miss Fifty or six games. And only hit twenty seven home runs. They still want two hundred and three. Okay, and the the asteroids, one hundred eight and none of those teams, Mitch Not one of them. Won The world series. The team that won the world series was nineteen and thirty one after fifty games, and here's a we keep talking about everything that has changed about how you don't have time to wait through a slump. You'll have time to develop a young kid. Right no team that falls that far out of it early in a sixty game season. We'll probably be around for October. No you're right. You're right and. Mark today since today's the start of the season. This program and remember what we're saying now we'll go back and revisit it if the season actually makes it all the way through till October. There will be Russian novel like. These two teams because of this shortened season where they're going along great, and then key guy gets injured or gets corona virus can. You imagine that a I mean forget. We're just talking about regular injuries here Mike. We haven't even mentioned up till now in the show. That teams could get eliminated by corona virus because one key guy gets it and gives it to several others. That team could end up the Yankees start their season without their closer arouse chapman. Okay, they were worried that their best player last year DJ other than Glare Torres Dj Lemay might not start because he had the he, he had a positive test or no. Yeah, no, you'd somebody walks in one day with one hundred and two temperature. And it's like he pulled a hamstring running around first base, and not only him, but everyone who came in contact with him and so. You might have to sit down two or three of your key players in a key series. When you're about to play your rival and all of a sudden up protocol you've got sit out for the next five games because you had contact with the guy who who got corona virus. This is above and beyond. Hamstrings muscle pulls shoulder pulls arm, arm, situations, and things like that, so you've introduced a whole other element here. That could take it out, so that's why I say the Russian hobble. Approach to a tragedy, a team going along really great and one guy gets corona virus and next thing you know they drop seven games and seven games basically knocks you out of it, so there's going to be a constant shifting of storylines. It's going to be a very interesting season to come. Books will be written about this season. Some smart baseball writers out there they'll be diving into trying to cover this as much as possible because the shifts in the fortunes of teams is going to be more dramatic than has ever been in a long hundred and sixty two game. Game season. It's just those things over time to stretch themselves out in teams just fall off into becomes impossible for them to catch up whatever, but this is totally different, especially if they increase the playoff teams, nobody's out of it necessarily for very long and so You could always say what we might look out of it, but the four teams in front of US might get corona virus I mean literally. That's that's that's what it comes down to, and we still haven't addressed the fact that the season could stop. It could stay. Could actually all fall apart because? Man You were talking earlier about the protocols and again in this espn piece. A player is quoted as saying Horny. Guys are going to bring this thing. I told you what a coach in the NBA said to me, I said. How do you think the bug man? I told you this a couple of weeks ago. How do you think the bubble's GonNa work, he goes. Yeah great for about two weeks till they WANNA. Go Out! Yeah, well. The bubble is way more controlled than baseball. Baseball is an up to this point. Even though everybody's been okay. Relatively, there haven't been massive outbreaks of it. Remember nobody has traveled. Today marks the beginning of the traveling team. The team's staying in a hotel on the road. It's much more difficult to control your circumstance to control your contacts to control players and where. Where they're going when you're on the road than it is at home, and all you do is go from your house to the Ballpark and Ballpark back to your house, so we don't know that this is the first team sport that is getting back going, and we don't know what consequences of teams on the road are going to be, but baseball has no bubble which means outside of the outside of the three hour game that. That they play in a couple of hours, their not allowing players now to start coming in at one o'clock in the afternoon for a seven o'clock game like they used to. They're limiting when you can be there, and and all that because they want to control it so outside of those three hours in a few hours before an hour afterwards, the players have all day long and we're talking about remember. We're not talking about sixty. Sixty year old sports writers who have been seen the consequences of things and can talk about them that we're talking about twenty one twenty, two twenty three year old kid who think they're invincible midst. That's a thing. They think they're invincible. By the way every time you talk about the bubble I just imagined this. It's like one of those warm movies where they've got barb wire all around Disneyworld and spotlights and all of a sudden. I Leonard Girl Wall. Round. Davis. Down now identify that stranger who was with? No but but Mitch. That's why. Is Much to give back to the dodgers and the Yankees for second as much as they look like chalk. Don't go to sleep on a team like the Washington nationals who happened to be the defending champs in baseball, who wrote one of the greatest stories in the history of the sport I think they played five deciding games in October. Who did come from twelve games under five hundred and you know what they had they had the. We have to win today mentality. which is going to be hard for some teams to figure out the you know the nationals mantras everybody's reporting now is let's just go one out today, because guess what? It's part of their DNA after last season and The, another thing we talked about, it's going to take a certain mindset that is. To this sport okay. Buck showalter said to me. None of that will get them tomorrow. You'd better get him today, and that is. That is what they're encountering and again I will I be in front of my TV tonight, yes. Yes, I will and I will try to stay awake long enough to watch. The dodgers play the giants later. 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You mentioned some teams Mike not to sleep on, or we know Yankees dodgers Everybody's favoring them. I think the nationals for shore. Astros can't be counted out I mean they did lose Garrett Cole and that's huge and what that does in my mind is that makes them more susceptible to one more? If Justin verlander pulls a muscle and his out for for three or four rotations, whatever it suddenly has a huge effect on them, if they. They should falter I. I am very curious to watch the angels I mean they. They added a grand slayer anthony run. Don't you know? Let's not forget how great he was in the playoffs. This year and Shohei Otani is supposedly healthy again for a guy like him sixty games as a blessing, not have to go I mean a third of a season essentially instead of all the way through if they keep him trout as playing. How do you? How do you not consider them? Especially if they expand the field so I? Think that you gotTa Watch for them over on the national, league, side. If you think Atlanta's going to take the east as most people do I, still you're watching the mets, but I mean I certainly always the best. Phillies, nationals, braves mets. It's to me, it's it's it. It's the number one meat Grinder Division in the sport this year and I. Don't have as much confidence in the Phillies, but I think the nationals. The braves mets. Despite Losing Stroman, no, no. yeah, I the braves and the team that everybody's everybody's hot pick. All of a sudden is Cincinnati reds. After all this time, everybody's talking and here's the thing about the angels by the way before we leave the subject of the angels. Mike Trout is not only the best player in baseball. My child is one of the greatest players of all time. He's like a combination of mantle and mays when they were young. Man She's played three playoff games as life three. He has one postseason hit a home run, and I've said this to you before. This would be like if Lebron James were the biggest star in the NBA and never got near the postseason. That's the situation that Mike Trout isn't. When? He signed his big deal I said. Don't talk about the confidence that the angels are showing in Him. Think about the confidence to trout is showing in the angels to finally put a representative team around his skill, and maybe this is the year when that finally starts to happen again. It'd be nice. It'd be a good story I'd like to see him in a lot longer of a playoff. His career Mitch in his whole career, it's almost to the point where if they expand to sixteen teams, you almost start to be embarrassed not to make the playoffs. It's a little bit it really. It's a little bit like hockey. Remember in the old days. Everybody made the play offs in hockey, and if you didn't you really bad, and so you got sixteen teams going baseball, and you're a team like the angels, and you don't make it with all that talent. That's got ramifications that are a lot different than what normally happens where there's. A lot fewer teams that make it in a lot longer seasons and things can happen so. Teams going to run out of excuses. To their fan base. They don't make your team didn't make the playoffs. Oh, yeah, sixteen teams of your one of the lower foreseen. Go, so you're you're? Your team is one of the fourteen and that one of the sixteen. So now, let's let's shift gears here a little bit. You mentioned something about the NBA bubble in the NBA is GonNa Start Right on the heels of baseball. I mean baseball we. We've lamented this before Mike They should have been doing this a month ago and could have if and you know what things were a whole lot better a month ago, so th th there would have been a huge advantage America in general was far lower in its cases of Gerona virus a month ago than it is right now, and had they not jerked around trying to negotiate how long the season was or wasn't going to be. They would have been playing all. All this time and could have gotten a lot more games in already now they start up and literally a week later. The NBA gets into action in its sprint towards the end of the finish, but there's been an interesting kind of shadow going on with the NBA obviously, the NBA is much more center stage with a protests and things that are going on in the country right now than than baseball isn't understandably so because some very high. Percentage of African American players in the NBA so much so that the courts. The courts that they're playing on and I saw the photo of the, but it ain't small. It's very very large black lives, matter on the on the basketball, courts and messages on the back of players jerseys. From a long list of potential. Messages, everything from black lives matter to respect. To. Love chairing another other slogans, but amongst the slogans that were not allowed. WAS ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH CHINA? And this is starting to become a shadow that the NBA cannot shake no matter much how much it wants! Let's talk about basketball kind of thing because they are intricately interwoven with China, both from a broad past point of view, and certainly with they're very close relationship with Nike and Nike's relationship with Chinese workers, and you're not talking about a country Mike. That is in the spotlight. For many things, many abuses of their people, but most notably the taking. Roughly a million Muslims. Into what reports have described as concentration camps and you cannot now ignore the fact that you are. Hand in hand with the country that is is treating Muslims potentially like like. As as as no right citizens. And not a couple, a million and concentration camps and things should be spoken, and when this was pointed out by some lawmakers. They were mocked by sports fans. An ESPN reporter Senate Senate Fu Message to one of the Senators Josh. From Missouri. Who wrote that letter got him suspended from ESPN for a bit. This is not going to go away. This is being talked about on the news every night. So, what do you feel the NBA? Should or shouldn't do with regard to its relationship with China Mitch. Always come down. It comes down to this with with social activism okay. Ultimately it becomes a buffet table. Okay, which hills GONNA fight for I looked up today in this number's probably changed I think there are over four thousand starbucks in China. Okay now. He's Senator Marsha. Blackburn and Senator Josh Holly. They as offended by starbucks, doing business in that country is the are the National Basketball Association you you. You can't pick and choose on your outrage, but that's exactly what happens and I I asked Mitch this before we started today. Are we also going to see a logo that says Muslim lives in China, matter okay, and again you know it's always a. Slippery slope I am not diminishing God. Bless everybody. Who Social Awareness, and whose passion for Social Justice has has become activated, or or at least started up again in the wake of the death of George Floyd. But ultimately, when you look at what's going on with the NBA, they know that that they're going to end up leaving a lot of money on the table. Because you have to ask yourself whatever nikes doing their and whatever branding. They've done with their sport in China. Do? You want to be in business with these bastards, because that's the question. That's the question, no matter how much money you want to leave on the table and I still believe that for one innocent tweet and I'm telling you was an innocent tweet. Because Daryl Morey of the Houston Rockets was was telling the truth about China and Hong Kong, and all the rest of it I still believe that Maury at some point will pay with his job for his beliefs. I'm not comparing him to Colin. Kaepernick, I don't WanNa. Play what aboutism, but if the if the rockets flame out in these playoffs, you wait and see Daryl. Morey someday is not going to be the general manager of the his rockets, and it's not gonna be because of performance because he's built an elite franchise. It's because of the heat took on China and started started this whole thing. Well you're right to point out that there are other major American businesses that do business with China starbucks McDonalds KFC. Amongst them however. Looking at those three businesses, just as an example, they don't wear their hearts on their sleeve. Right with regard to messages about social protest. The way that the NBA is now or Nike does in general and Nike's. Involvement with them. Is the NBA Zimbabwe with them? You cannot untangle them and Lebron James can't untangle himself from that no matter how much he wants to ignore them the bonds as one of the biggest critics of Daryl Morey. When that all happened and basically labeled him a fool and an opening his mouth, endangering US I love that statement when Lebron James You we, we were in danger. We were over there and he's endangering players. How about the Million Muslims? Being taken to concentration camps? They're endanger. Do they not deserve you speaking up? Nike brought in six point two billion dollars in revenue in two thousand eighteen from China that was up twenty one percent from the year before comparatively. They made seven percent growth in North America now I I don't operate a multi-billion dollar corporation, but I think I know how they think if you can be a region where you can jump twenty one percent in your profit or your revenue from last year versus seven percent at home. You're going to go to that region. You're going to be in that region as much as you physically can't and when you're talking about six billion dollars in revenue. Nike is not going to tick off China. And if Nike doesn't want, China ticked off the NBA doesn't want China ticked off, but then you cannot in good conscience. Start, saying well, we're all about love and justice, and all the rest of it, but not that part not that part. Don't ask us about that part. Don't ask us. Oh, look over there! Look over here. You're not even allowed to ask NBA players about China I. Mean You know you'll you'll? You'll get a very very nasty lookin. Somebody will end up saying. Mitch, find any substantive comment. Maybe there's one that I missed that. Lebron has said about this whole thing. Lebron went to ground on this thing because he's highly invested in the Nike Brisk Business and Brandon China. That's right and I'm sorry, but you can't claim to be about human rights and ignore other people's human rights I know that some people say well. That's China where America. We need to take care of our own problem. No question, obviously you need to take care of your own backyard first, but but taking care of your own backyard and becoming a slogan. or or or broadcasting certain messages with your uniforms with your courts, all the rest of it makes you a target. For people saying you're hypocrites. And they're not wrong. If you're going to make statements about about what matters in the world and then you won't make a statement about China or you won't make a statement about human rights. You're not now talking about. Somebody's political policy, their economic policy of their energy policy. You're talking about lives lives. That'd be people being herded up and taken away. You can't be silent on that, but be loud about something else. It's just it is hypocritical. It's not against the law. It makes more talking about the probably the most enlightened of our sports leagues. That's what's amazing about this. You know these guys are kind of a step or two ahead of everybody else and look at the mess in which they now find themselves because in in this world. Mr Album where where Russia is the. Boogeyman and they are okay. It sometimes takes oxygen away from talking about China and what a menace they have become, and why because they're rich is shit. That's why well there's just. It's not just rich. It's too big a market to ignore. You're talking about billions of people that that potentially it's a as a as the economy there rises, and a middle-class rises. They have money to buy. These products have money to buy. I mean there were always a lot of people in China, but until things started to turn around economically. American businesses. We're all that interested in it because there weren't people who could afford their products, but now people can afford cups of starbucks, coffee and people can afford Nike sneakers and so so boom. They're racing over there and look. That's free enterprise that's global capitalism. That's all those things that come with sort of living in a global world, but also the Google comes living global world, is it? Your sensitivities need to be global as well, and that's where the NBA leaves itself vulnerable. If they refuse to have anything to say about China, they responded to. The letter from I guess it was a senator about concerns of their involvement with a basketball academy in in the region. That's in question. MARSHA BLACKBURN WHO said? They say we don't have involvement we. We broke off that involvement a year ago. Okay. Good, but but they still won't come out and make any kind of statements about China's policy and as long as they don't. They leave themselves as fair game for criticism. One more thing I want to bring up before we end the show here, but first a word from our friends at Geiko. Hey. Did you know that right now? GEICO is offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car motorcycle, RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money Geico could already save you. So, what are you waiting for? Your dog to make you breakfast in bed with Belgian waffles and a fresh fruit compote as nice as that sounds, ask probably never going to happen, but at least there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch up seventh visit. GEICO DOT COM to learn more. Okay the NFL has been moved to the back burner with with basketball and baseball. Right upon us here, but something interesting did happen over the last few days in that the the the NFL has agreed no preseason games so now. We're GONNA. Start the NFL season. The first contact than anybody is going to have with another guy was actually really seriously trying to tackle him I'm not. Not Talking about Intra squad. Games is going to be the regular season opener, and this has a lot of ramifications Mike. Think about how many rookies and free agents and undrafted guys make football teams make NFL teams because of the exhibition season. That's when they get to play now. The only way you're gonNA, make a team if you somehow show off in practice and in practice. You only get the reps that you get so this has big ramifications, not only for a potential guys getting into the game, but then how `bout players. Injuries and you know they're. They're not taking any hits until the very first game. Some might say hey. You'll last longer that way. Because the you do lose guys in exhibition season two injuries, others will say hey. It is an awfully rough sport to start. With your pedal to the metal, what do you think yeah, and what happens? When the first two star quarterbacks down, because some kid who did make the team is trying to show that he's worthy of being on the team and levels, Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, or Aaron, Rodgers I think the quality of play. In the NFL and I might be wrong about this if we take our four. Major Professional, team, Sports Mitch I. Think the quality of play, especially at the start will be greatly diminished and the NFL than it will be for the other three sports I really do. Well. The NFL is still up in question Mike. I mean. The players are not happy about going into the season. You know this close to basic training camps opening and coming in, and they really don't have a policy you know the the League is kind of making it up as they're going along I. Think one of the reasons that canceled the preseason games. It's because they're just not ready. They're not ready to handle. They read in the close to being ready. Are you kidding? You usually at this time of year where we stories about guys fainting. Enjoy training camp. Yeah none of that's going on. We don't know how they're going to handle all the testing of the so many players involved in an NFL game and they haven't and some players have have. J. Watt may have asked this and others, so what constitutes contact with a player? If he comes back and test positive, so let's say there's a game and a Monday morning. The players get tested and a guy comes back positive. They then they say well. It was had contact needs to. Needs to quarantine for a certain period of time well, the NFL players are saying well. What's contact if I tackled the guy once in the game? Is that contact to I? Now have to sit out five days and miss it. You can see the ramifications I mean guys bumping into one matching. Kick Return. You know you got. You got like twelve guys who could potentially be be out if a guy bounces off and other tackle slips another tackle, you know a guy grabs him by the helmet any breaks. You could lose out on one on one kick return. You could lose five six seven guys, so they have a right to ask these questions and the NFL so far is. Is Acting as we've said on this show. Hey, we're the NFL nothing stops us, so we're going to what they have come out and said is by the way fans you're gonNA have to wear face masks this season. They haven't even determine if they're going to have fans I know. They haven't even determined a way to get them in and out of turn styles safely, but they're already saying you're going to have to wear masks. If you come in which again seems speaks to me. That just thinks it's on a different level than everybody else, and we're going to have fans in the stands. Even just be able to think that that's going to happen is a certain amount of. Arrogance. Against Dad against that happy positive. Corn is high and elephants. I- optimism. Let me just end our podcast by saying this play ball. Play, ball. When we come back on Monday. We'll actually be talking about who had the hottest start to the season. We will be here on Monday. The sports reporters podcast every Monday and Thursday. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 164 - MLB's Opening Day. Will top seeds survive the Sweet 16? Did the NFL get it right with rule change?

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 164 - MLB's Opening Day. Will top seeds survive the Sweet 16? Did the NFL get it right with rule change?

"The. Winning journalists New York Times fillers abound. No opinion, left unsaid and institution for sports. Talk information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu. Mitch Albom at Bob, Ryan. Bog line of the Boston, Globe and ESPN? Mitch Albom, Detroit. Free press. I Mike looping MLB dot com. And welcome to the opening day of the baseball season. Addition of the sports reports podcast, which is the continuation of our long running show on ESPN TV. We do this twice a week Mondays and Thursdays. Guys. I understand all the generational problems of baseball. But there is a part of everybody who is a true sports fan who is not excited about the day that feels like New Year's day in sports, and there are games all across the board. There are games from Yankee Stadium all the way to Seattle where the defending champs play the Mariners and Chris sale who got the last three outs of the World Series out of the bullpen starts for the Red Sox. And so guys the American League east is is always a good place to start even though I'm not sure that the Astros aren't the best team and the Yankees and the Red Sox. Once again over the last couple of years has become ultimate fighting again. And they played a four-game series. The felt like a seven game series in the division series last year. They both want one hundred games the Yankees have even beefed up a bullpen. That was already the best in the world. And I'll I'll start with this. I look something up to calm about this for Melby dot com. Yesterday in the history of baseball guys, this exit kinda interesting only once before has the team had to fifty home run guys on the same team at the same time, and it was mantle and Mariss back in the nineteen sixties the the Yankees have Stanton and judge and last year we thought they were going to hit one hundred home runs, maybe they will this year. It's one of the reasons why the Yankees are such a compelling team to watch. Well, they have more than that Mike with amplify it. If God go back to something. I was predicting last year they have. Three maybe four guys who could hit forty. I mean Sanchez. It's going to be an interesting guy to watch this year. We certainly had a odd year last year, but he the way he broke into baseball couple of years ago with was you know, I opening and he still remains that an fascinating. And when he when he hits them he doesn't hit cheap home runs. Mike and Mike collect about this. Maybe this just bothers disappeared hip on twenty eight further last year in game four who know they might still be playing that division. So you're right, Mike. That's a this is a they have that potenial. They have that pa- two hundred sixty seven home runs, and they are saying in the spring mitchum Bob three they think they can hit more this year. They think I someone not maybe so physicians suggested three hundred for them one of their own. Judge Stanton or whatever. Which is just just beyond. You know? I remember how I grow up with the magic number was two twenty one that the forty seven giants in there was matched by the reds fifty six and it's been rather obliterated says anyway, yes, they have that power and our being told that judge is getting more sophisticated. He's figuring out his swing that. He's going to try to cut down his his enormous strikeout. Total, and you know, he's poised for even more greatness this year. So I'm I'm just dying of curiosity to see how some of say from from not living in New York or Boston. So we observe the two of your teams, you know, a little bit differently than being on the inside of the the perception of New Yorkers always when you start the season. Okay. Who did they buy this year? You know, what expensive star used to be on another team is now on the Yankees. And you know, they sat out the big biggest names in the free agency. That didn't get a Bryce Harper that can get a Manny Machado. They added, you know, role players for the most part, and I find that very interesting for the Yankees, they're going to get a couple, you know, obviously big star hitters there. But then they're really counting on a lot of young talent to come out spent by the Red Sox, man. Yeah. Yeah. And they well it's going to get outspent by anybody. I guess it's going to be the Red Sox who do that. But they had Paxton I thought that was a good move. You know, they need a little shoring up in the rotation. I'm curious, but you guys watch these guys pitch all the time between the two pitching staffs of the Red Sox and the Yankees who do you think has well it's fascinating because one is loaded bobble. Bob, take this one is loaded in the starting rotation. The other is loaded at the bullpen, Bob. If bullpen had been a trigger for a drinking game in the six state region that that it mostly comprises Red Sox nation. The whole section of the eastern seaboard would have been drunk before was even into January because they you know in Boston how obsessed they are not just with the gangqi bullpen. They don't even know who they're closer is Robert. No, we don't we assume it's probably going to be met Barnes to start. Although Alex Cora has been very coy about it from the beginning. And he's talking about match ups, and he doesn't use. Dreaded phrase by committee. He won't go there. But he's that's what we're talking about here in general right now, there's not a fixed closer at the present time. Although he did say something interesting yesterday to the spice the plot up a little bit, Mike and Mitch and that is that he said, you know, I've known what I'm going to do since November. I wouldn't be shocked at again it, but people have fun with this because we're not gonna do this again until Monday Mitch and Bob would you be shocked in the opener if the closer turned out to be David price who is not starting until the fifth game of the season. Not the least because he's he being core has already said that it's very a very good possibility who price who has not sailed at the start until the second series against Oakland could have a relief role over the weekend. And if it's opening day, so be it wouldn't be mostly surprise me at all. Well, you mentioned Houston right at the start there. Mike an and for me, you know, I look at the look at the overall picture of baseball. I look at the National League. And I see ten teams that I think can win it. I look in the American League. And I see three realistically three. I mean, I guess you could make an argument for Cleveland, but only because somebody's got to come out of the central division, but the Houston and the Red Sox, and and the Yankees seemed to be the three most loaded, and and as you pointed out that Houston might end up being the might end up being the the team with the most talent, but they pitching and they have pitching issues, but Mitch as you know, being an American League central guy, adding Michael Brantley is to me as a huge addition to the Houston Astras, I think the Astros are looking at this. Although they're not they're not. Team full of braggadocio. But I think they're looking at that they the American League championship is on loan that they they they gracious right allowed it out on this year. I think they definitely think they're the best team in baseball. Now they've lost. They they lost two of the pitching stars of October of two thousand seventeen Charlie Morton now pitches for the raise Lance mccullers is hurt. Okay. But they have big young arms behind them and Mitch Bob is right. You know, I because we live close to where they train in West Palm. I've I've developed a pretty good relationship with AJ Hinch and Mitch I don't think that the Astros believed that they weren't going to repeat until the last outta game five of the American League championship series. Even though the Red Sox have one hundred eight to their one hundred and three they thought they were set up and then became these bewildering three nights at minute maid park that including. Game four. And if you remember game for ends, it's an eight six Red Sox victory. The basis are loaded in the bottom of the ninth. And Andrew Benintendi made. I searched my memory the greatest game ending October. Catch I have ever seen. And he he dives. He makes the catch if he doesn't that series goes to to to and Mitch, you know, you listen, you see way more ver- Lander as great as ver- Lander as it's different pitching an elimination game than it would have been for him to start game five in a two series. That was I believe the Astros came out of that. And a state of shock and Bob's, right? I think that if there's a team that has a chip on his shoulder this year, it's going to be AJ Hinch is Astros. Well, you know, they did lose some people but incredibly they have pitching to make up for it on that team. And you know, the thing about Burland or they just extended him, you know, they gave him a longer. Deal. I've watched him his whole career. He's not you know, he's been great since he's gotten there. But he does have stretches of his career were suddenly the mechanics go a little weird. And you do wonder for a guy who throws his heart as he does. Is there at his age that moment where you know, we're sort of seeing with LeBron James here now. Well, he's mortal because you know, suddenly, he's not throwing harder in the sixth inning. Then he was in the first he's not the same Justin Verlander. So there's a question Mark there. But I agree in terms of attitude and who's got the most approve I think we're talking about the Houston talent to something out about the Astros. And I was reminded of this by reading Joe Sheehan of daily opus yesterday online, and I had forgotten. Carlos Correa is is he was injured along, you know, while back has never been back to where he was prior to that. Injury. He was absolutely a superstar level player at first to that point. He wasn't the same force hasn't been this. If he interesting followed the see whether he can get back to still so young it's ridiculous. But but the fact is that he wasn't the player last year that he had been and it that's something to do with their performance. So Bob remembered that the Astros Red Sox series, the reigning MVP of the league the little guy at second base was playing on one leg and everybody said afterwards if they weren't trying to you know, win another World Series. He probably wasn't well enough to play. And even with that out to hits that ball in the first inning of game four that Joe west says isn't a home run. And that might have changed that game for the Astros. Absolutely. No, he's he's back one hundred percent. And we have a whole other matter. No, they have a lot going for them bringer and Brantley and bagman we haven't even talked to right? The guy third base. The guy third base. Alex bregman? But what did he end up fifth in the MVP votes last year? No, no. He is a star in. There's what Bob admit I really thought throughout last season. Even as the Red Sox plant as great as they were the Astros still felt like the warriors to me because all the young talent they have their star leading. There's no doubt about it. So they're going to have to punch match your guy, Mr. Burland, who you were nice enough to share, you know, as we are here in Detroit give and give and and Garrett Cole that that's another reason why the Astros even with the Red Sox starting pitcher are thinking, okay. Get us to a short series, and Mr. Burland IRS game one and Mr. colas game to have no competition. They're going to be competing against themselves. Really in the sense of unless you believe in the as can do it again. And I kind of don't, but it's always crazy to sell Billy be insured off to a bit starting with Olsen getting hurt. Well, the good segue because the ease with which Houston should crews in there and Boston and New York seem faded one. Just like last year. You no one's going to end up playing awa- card game that shouldn't and going to end up. Remember how much time we spend on our broadcast talking about how unfair this is that one of these teams could be eliminated a single. Game after writing after winning a hundred games. The opposite is true in the National League. For me. I there are there were a lot of good teams last year. A lot of teams that won or in the nineties and now with the Philadelphia Phillies who I think you have to begin with because all eyes are going to be on them. Now with Bryce Harper. They enter they go from an eighty and eighty two season to if they don't win ninety plus games and are not in the playoffs. It's a complete failure. And they join obviously, the Washington nationals of which much expected to spite the fact that they keep losing player. The Atlanta Braves won that division. People forget last year. And then got a chance to be damned. Good Mitch because starting pitcher teams right there in one division shoot. Mitch don't you think that all the time? We we spent and rightfully so I was gonna ask you this. Because you watch it from a distance. Don't you think that the National League east because there aren't as you said four teams that might be the most compelling? Vision baseball this year. Oh, it is. I kind of thought it was. Yeah. No doubt. You're right. The American League east gets the attention because of the because it seems like the Yankees and Red Sox play other every freakin weekend. They know ESPN. Hey, it's the Yankees and Red Sox on Sunday night. Again. How about that? How do we pull that off? But but in terms of in terms of actual, you know, competitiveness within the division. It's not to teams it's four teams and how good how good can Bryce Harper make Philadelphia, you know, from from a five hundred less than five hundred team. Does he catapult them into the playoffs? We listen. You guys have spent more time watching Philadelphia sport. And you know, this is not an easy place to play. Okay. We start there. But remember this about the Phillies Mitch last year, they were life and death until what the first is September with the Braves. It looked like the Phillies whereas good. A bed. Maybe I forget when the collapse begin they had a stunning collapse in September. So I think the Phillies I think the Phillies loaded I still think it's crazy to say this even with the guy going one hundred fifty miles up the road to Philadelphia. I still think the nationals are better if I could pick one game to parachute into today. It be nationals against the Mets degrom against servicer at nationals park. That's good. I noted in USA today there. People majority of them pick the nationals to win to go all the way, but that division. I saw one projection earlier this week one of this district projections that had the four teams in question separated by two games. Yeah. I've looked I kinda searched my own memory Bank. And then as usual, I had Zach Lukic a look this up. Okay. Losing a superstar. Okay. And then having your team improve the next year. And the best example in the last two decades is that Alex Rodriguez left the Mariners and they managed to scrape by with one hundred sixteen victories the next year. What do we make of seriously? What do we make of this poll was revealed of players who of those who responded that the most overrated player in baseball with Bryce Harper is this is this just a reaction to the salary thing is reaction. What I mean? That's amazing discussion when he was a free agent, right and bird talks about. Yeah. Just look it as years and numbers. How many times did he actually won one hundred RBI year? Correct. And forty home runs. One four home run. Season one MVP award. And everybody says, well, he has an MVP guys one p words, right? But it's interesting. Also, I learned something today. I had no idea. This is interesting about how baseball players are not getting the the scrutiny that we get to basketball players football players, which is that he's a contact lens guy getting these new progressive lenses that he's that he's got horrible eyesight in you know, in real life and never for one second. And whenever alluded to this in my in my we're not for what it's worth. I'm just a fascinating little three hundred million dollars. That apparently didn't that didn't discourage his eyesight. I'm just saying I didn't know this about him. I just find fascinating contact lenses. I could never wear I tried and I tried and I tried and I just never could wear them. And no, Bob, I'm with you. I never knew this was any kind of is you in this young man's life. No, the the nationals will be judged. I think by guys stepping up. With him gone. How good is Anthony rundown. How good is really victory bliss who's gonna you know, he he was very promising. He's just a kid. He might turn out to be a better baseball player than Bryce Harper. Mitch. I mean, you know, some one one man's departures another man's opportunity. And this is that's going to be. I think the story of the nationals if somebody steps up and shows that they had this kind of talent. And they've still obviously got sure in Strasbourg and now Patrick Corbin as you say there, they they lost them. And some would say they're better for for the talent that stellian. He isn't it true? If it why don't they do something. Then I mean for all every year, we have this conversation about the Washington nationals and look at the guys that they've either bought or brought a longer signed. Why don't they have more success in the postseason? They have been one of those heartbreak teams, they always will look back. Remember, they will look back on the year when they sat Strasbourg down when it looked like the. And it was one of those, you know, talk about the old Yogi line when you come to a fork in the road ticket. Okay. They they protected Strasbourg who ended up getting hurt anyway later on in his career. And that may have been their best choice the great Frank cash and always used to say you only get so many chances to win in this game. And they thought that they were set up. So Mitch remember this? They thought they were set up so well for the future that they could go to these lengths to protect Strasberg's arm because they were going to be the one team the protected pitchers arm in the most Zahren dip profession in the world. Now, this one other aspect we haven't discussed seen anyone discuss it lately. And I'm nominating us to be the ones to be the torch the flag bearers here to to inject a little intrigue into the National League east, which is following the skippers three of the four skippers of these four teams are under. Fire. It seems to me you bet. Oh honor percent and the fourth one can you even name five seconds manages a brave Lanta and Brian snicker. I didn't know Ryan snicker. Thank you. Well, I I was and I didn't even know I looked it up. Now Mickey Callaway has got a bad start. I think I really like Mickey Callaway I think he's in huge trouble with a bad start. Because guess what Mitch he's working for the judge general manager did not hire him and never good. Never good. And and gape Kappler guess if they didn't get Harper. He would be under tremendous pressure because of the way they fell apart last year and Philadelphia and Dave Martinez. Exact wasn't exactly as shooting star the nationals last year. So this is an intrigue this is part of this plot. Right. Isn't as part of the dialogue that we're going to have this. Mathematically, they can't all win. Okay. 'cause they have to play other. So they can't all win them. See? That's why Mitch is here. See that. It's. Math guy. Now a minor yesterday. Mitch speaking Brandeis. Yeah. When Peter May my Okali teaches. Journalism class there. And I was I was there being you know, being very impressed with the quality of your progeny. There was very very impressed Denault. No. Let's go back. I just I wanna go back to to the Yankees Red Sox. Just for one second because the Yankees are the face of the modern game in this sense. They will swing for the fences or they will strike out and that caught up with them in the playoffs against the Red Sox because the Red Sox Bob the Red Sox have so much more balance, and so many more contact guys in their batting order. And I don't think that they're. Subject to the kind of swing miss mentality. That the Yankees are clearly caught up in the exit. Hey, listen, we one hundred games as you. We may last year. We may do it more. But are they not guys? Are they not the face of what the sport has become? No. Yeah. And I mentioned earlier the is trying to cut down on his strikeouts. He's trying to stand struck out two hundred eleven times. We'll see how that goes. And by the way to wit socks. I'm you pay paying strict attention, as you know, I have to do which is that the opening night number three hitter on this team tonight for the for your defending world champions will be field devas, and they are very high on this young mandate. Think he's a major star of in in in a waiting ready to blog burst forth. Remember, we all remember two years ago? This one of the signature moments of that season for them to use ago was home run. He hit off of chapter mile. Hour fastball. He hit to left center and probably one. The American League's Mitch let me ask you a question about because there's the haves and the have nuts. But it seems to me there is mild optimism again in Detroit because of you know, young talent that is going to nobody is expecting them to win the central this year. But they do have some kids that that everybody thinks worth watching. Well, part of the. Part of the flip side of giving and giving and giving giving is that you do get something in return for it. And what they got in return for it were were prospects. And you know, number of those prospects are gonna find their way Kristen Stewart is up on the team here. Now the left field or he's probably that fifth Candelaria was a good pickup. You know, bring up last year. They've got Casey Mayes down in the minor leagues. Number one pick. Obviously, it's going to be a matter of time before they they give him a crack at it. But I just Mike Jordan Zimmermann is their start. Okay. He's he's their premier guy. They lost Michael Fulmer for the entire year to to shoulder injury. And so ashamed green is. They're closer. They're not gonna win a lot of games and Miguel Cabrera is obviously, you know, that's the wind that blows their sales. And if if anyone out there thinks Goku. Is gonna make it through this year, healthy and play one hundred sixty two games. God bless you. You know, I I wanna ride that optimism. But you know, I'd be I'd be surprised if he makes it through a hundred and so without that, you know, you start to struggle. And then what happens with young players is do they have the motivation, you know, to go through it. I do think that they're going to be pretty good in a couple years. But it's it's going to take a couple of years, and it's a shame that you know, you gotta do this. But this is process. You know, this is the Philadelphia seventy Sixers this there's more and more teams in professional sports doing this. And we just have to accept less than before we jump off of baseball. It would be a disservice. Not to talk about the Los Angeles. Dodgers. I mean they were in the World Series last year. And it does seem when you look at projections across the board that that nobody seems to doubt that they're going to win their division and be a be one of many strong contenders. Clayton Kershaw once again question Mark, they lost Machado. What do we? We think they're going to do this you listen, it's two names. It's it's Kershaw Kershaw Kershaw Kershaw. That's actually poor names if he's not himself or some reasonable facsimile thereof. I don't know how they can win and bueller is becomes a very big part of this equation. But they get Korsakov back Bellenger. They think is going to have a better year at you know, they're still really really good. They have a very good manager. And Mitch I talked about the Astros coming in with chip on their shoulder. Just one team that's played in the last two World Series. And that's the dodgers. Okay. And, but if you know Kershaw shows, you that that the risk of long-term starting pitcher contracts because how's that deal looking for them right now? A guy. I think it can thing. Seger getting back. Oh, he's great. Yeah. I mean, this is a major major player. I still look at the I can't see any comp the competition enough, even even without even with a with a missing Kershaw or imperative or I still think they got enough. You're you're making, you know, you're making our producer Tyler broad just faint and giddy with excitement because a crazed Los Angeles. I just got to be realistic here, you know, and just looking I'm staring at this roster. I'm staring at the step chart and come on who in the division is going to touch much. So I I would be stunned. You think Machado can't help them help the pockets those kick it closer than twenty five games behind them. Which at one point last year the dodgers had a twenty five game. So. Eighteen twenty seven they're gonna you know, I will say this. I believe that over the next couple years to Padres are going to be a team to watch. I actually honestly. Predicting three years from now is it's already hard just to predict six months from now. Hey before we go on guys. Let me say this about pair club. 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So I'll start by asking when this weekend. End is done which of the four number ones. Do you think faces the most likely odds of not being in? I don't know likely. I this sounds crazy after what we saw early Sunday evening. I think Duke is vulnerable. I as great as I was Barrett. Made a play everything worked out right for them down the stretch. I would not go to sleep on Virginia Tech. I would not go to sleep. And if it turns out to be your Spartans against the Duke. He's it. And Michigan state plays. You know? Again, if you're right. It's not the best of the country. But it's pretty damn good. I think this weekend is a minefield producer Duke has been vulnerable from the start, Mike. And even though I in my so-called bracket, I did pick them. But I was with some trepidation to weaknesses are a that the spotty at best outside shooting and be the depth. I it's not a the quality depth that they you would want necessarily and God forbid if I were to get an foul trouble. I think they'd be in serious trouble. I think by day are vulnerable. But the junior tech is just lost the player. I don't know. How important it's going to be. This is not a good time for you know, hijinks off the court. But unfortunately, they gotta deal with that. I think the most vulnerable team is. Saiga number one. Because of who they're playing Florida state is a scary team when they're playing well, they got the win protection got the athletes turns man album, love state. I think Florida state of a very very good possibility. Route forget saga. But I fear for them. I thought it was the weakest of the four number one before they ceded them. And then when I saw the brackets, and as it's playing it self out, Florida state and then Michigan Texas Tech both of whom can hold you to forty four points. And you know, that ain't going to be easy. It doesn't matter who comes out of that Michigan game Gonzaga's gonna have their hands full defensively getting past them. I picked Michigan. When I saw the original bracket to get to the final four because of that. Because I do think that if their defenses on the they can stop consider they're going to have an interesting game, obviously against Texas Tech. They're playing mirror-image defensively. And and it's only going to be who makes him shots in that game. That's going to determine who breaks fifty and wins the game, then Gonzaga, Mike. I totally agree with you with Duke. And here's something that you're gonna hear a lot of if Duke and Michigan state both win you're going to hear about how. I think it's one and eleven that Tom Izzo is against Duke. Yeah. And this is going to become a very big story about you know, you can only beat the same dog so many times before either that dog is is wintered into submission and Michigan state just never going to be Duke or it bites back, and that's going to be the story line. And you're gonna hear that extensively of both of those teams come out of it. And I I like Michigan state's team this year. And I do think they play with a little bit of a of a pride factor. You know, they've lost a lot of players over the course of the season who you know, for injury and guys got out terrible breaks, and they've managed always come back and so- adversities not a not a big deal for them. They beat their arch rival Michigan three straight times. That tells you something about a team, you know, that when they gotta get up for a team that they don't like. And they certainly don't like Duke and Duke has ended way more Michigan. State campaigns or ruined perfect seasons and things like that than anyone team has done. I think I mean is any other team won eleven against each other at this level. You know, you gotta talk about the top five six teams in the country, right or any of them one eleven against each other. That's big when you were saying that I was thinking about the night that that the masters tennis tournament in New York where Vitas Carolina's finally beat Jimmy Connors and beat us got to the press conference afterwards. He was seventeen against Connors. And before anybody asked him a question he pointed a finger at us. And he said, I just want you guys. One thing. Nobody beats Vitas Caroline eighteen times in a row. Yeah. That's what you're talking about your. That's an extraordinary. Stick many non conference of sample sizes this big, you know, this is very odd one over the historically. And so I doubt the answer your question. I doubt this anything. Same coaches, Bob, the same coaches. Yeah. Right. It combines chef ski. Well, the combined services is six if it hasn't gotten there yet because coach K eighty two and eight or so for the popular. Hey, one team Mike, you're going to some. I was just gonna ask you guys, my friend. Mitch albom. Bob. Ryan is this the Virginia finally talk about a dragon finally going to slay the drag 'em so embitterment I have been continually building about with Jinya. I figured I predicted that they would lose my on my back, and I have them losing, Tennessee. Then I watched them play against Oklahoma. And I saw them suffocate them. They python is them. Right. They and they and they displayed a depth. I didn't know they had this kid coming off the bench seven footer huff played a terrific game. I didn't know he existed. I went and looked them up. They got their deep of the dia Katie was Moncia today. The guy and hundred there, they can be very very good. We all know, I watched the way they played defense. My god. Are they active incredibly active with athletes? They play like that. They they could you know there. I'm going to have to say, I was wrong. I ask you guys this. Okay. When we look at the whole. Scope of this weekend. And okay. And and as usual, we're having this conversation on Thursday morning. We're gonna have a lot to say on Monday morning. Okay. But we've got a tremendously compelling heavy. What feels like the heavyweight champ of the regular season in Duke and Zion and coach K and all that can you? Remember a more loaded Sweet Sixteen weekend, then this one because I can no not when you've got all the twos. Threes playing all at once and zoos, and yeah. And all the ones I mean, come on ones twos. While they are in a two threes and eager each bracket. Now, this is this is a chalk this major charges. Maguire's nirvana Chuck Chuck Choctaw. This looks like those one of those tournaments that they put together to start the season where they invite all the best teams from the last year to participate in one of those. If you were doing that I see if you're doing that with eight teams. These are the teams that you would put into that tournament. If you said we're gonna start twenty and it just to amplify that. I looked up because you know, the bible for college basketball fans of preseason. Everything else is tied for nineteenth place. Second is plu ribbon the blue ribbon yearbook which has been in existence as nineteen Eighty-one. And and I looked it up in their preseason predictions eleven of the current sixteen where they got they got eleven and your top twenty five they got twenty two out of their top twenty five that they acted. So they knew what they were doing. But this is, but this this is talk. This is the chalk that the people that we cruise all these kids are all you people. And what they all that they would. Well, I hate it when they're right. I hate it. When I but unfortunately, this is this is absolutely chocolate. So we kind of in agreement that. If if we had to put money on one not being there would be I that's my pick that that that's not to say that Duke is going to win or North Carolina or Virginia. But if you had to pick who's the most likely one of the four not to make it the most likely in order preference. I would go this way, Gonzaga, one Virginia to Duke, three and Carolina. None what's Carolina would be most likely to get most chance. Yeah. Yeah. I think for John. I would take Virginia. I just because of their track record. I'll believe they're gonna make the final four when they make fun of four. I'm moving on and just to go quick NFL conversation, gentlemen. Yeah. They have seen the life. They have seen the light in the light was emanating from what's at the darkness from the city of New Orleans. Was it light? It was darkness Mitch, but they can now replay. So at least that call can't ever happen again the steals a Super Bowl from taste. So am I the only one first of all I hated that? Call and win that moment if that moment repeats itself in that game with those consequences hanging on the line. I'm going to be very happy that they have this. But for all the other moments prior to that leading up. I the only one who believes that when you watch pass coverage in slow motion. It almost always looks like there's mass interfere. Like, it always looks like holding in the offense of that is right. That's right. I don't know what you gain at looking at a slow motion replay. It is slow motion is great for seeing. If a guy's foot went out of bounds. It's perfect. I swear the technology was invented for that budget guys in the room scientists saying what should we come up with? No slow-motion replay will always show. Your foot is on the white. That's perfect slow motion replay for pass interference. It's really really talk. It slow motion. This was outright assault vice for that. Honestly, I don't think so motion. It's been mentioned at all. I think it's just replay. I mean that is what you're saying. I agree with a time. But I don't think that's what the issue was here. I don't think that. They just want enough to Dwight obvious wrong such as we saw in that game. And Mitch, you know, what here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm thinking. You know, what the one last piece to this puzzle is, and I know you can't do this and can't bring these guys out in the light. I would still like to hear the explanation of why no flag was thrown on that play from from from the guys closest to the place within these not offer that I seem to remember some really lame reason why they thought that. And now I can't remember what it was. I thought some count came out. What's interesting over and above what they did it how they did it. And the fact that the coaches were the protagonists, which is not the way it normally works, and they also Mike Brown of stained, by the way, how very interesting story, and I don't know how many of the people voted in this manner. But in the Boston Globe today, Ben volant about the haste which Justice done any eleven our nature of the way. This was done in the fact that owners were ready. To get in there. Printings and go back at home. I it it it came to a head oddly quickly in the end, and it was driven that you're right way. That wheels of it was driven by the coaches, which is first time ever that that that something like this. The onus, of course, is going to be on the coaches because they're going to have, you know, opportunities limited opportunities to make the challenge. And then we're going to hear that that oft-repeated announcer phrase is there enough to overturn the poll on the so because you can make remember they can challenge non calls. Okay. As as well as calls. A flag comes out. It's a we don't agree with that. You know, we want to challenge that. Okay. That's a little simple now the onus is can we can you undo was it not pass interference? That's going. Haven't you always thought? That's bogus. It's either. Right or it's wrong zero enough to you're right. It's to overturn. No, right, right. It's right. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Well, I just going to be area. Mike on this. Did you ever see a more incredible? You know, you don't know thing of its nature than determining whether that ball hit the the whim last week and many times we saw. Yeah. And I you know, I mean that that's hard are very hard. By the way, I'm gonna I'm me to you Mitch with you on the the the nature of replied with regard to the foot on abounds. It's just like I think the very best service that replay his served in basketball that that is solved. A lot of important decisions. Is who gets the ball out of bounds? Who knocked the ball out of bounds. They can now take we can always know who's right and wrong in that we go out, and that's a big call and the end of the game who knocked the ball out of bounds. How long games, and and the first one of these that people are still going to argue over when it's close there the thing about New Orleans, and the reason that this push this thing through is nobody would argue that. But what about the call that is arguable? I kinda thought it was passed interference perfection. We're never going to perfect. You never ever ever the trying to make use this technology to which sort if we didn't have it. And we're going back. You know, the word would just like, you know, self dial phones, it's just like we world. We're not computers. We got along fine. We got along fine. But now, we have this technology, and we're slaves to it all slaves to it. And now we have this technology that they've got to use it to try to get it. Right. We gotta get it. Right. Well, and we're never going to have it perfect. It can't just let me close the book on this conversation by saying this. They did the right thing. But guess what that doesn't do? It doesn't get the saints trip to the Super Bowl back. Right. I also say in that regard. My. Yes. Yes. Except don't vote interception. The overtime when you can control your guides. Exit. Never should have been. Let's not rehash the sewer. I'm already instead end the program as we have ever since the sports reports existent TV or podcast with our parting shots. Bob. Ryan wanted to lead us, did you know, there was a quick way. You could save money. Switch to gyco. All it takes fifteen minutes to find out if you could say fifteen percent or more on car insurance and Kyko office coverage for more than just car insurance. Got a motorcycle. Geico's got you covered. Got an RV covered got covered. How about homeowners or renters insurance? You bet. Geico's got you covered. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. That's geiko dot com. Now. Four million eight hundred twenty five thousand dollars according to USA today. That's some total of contractual bonuses conceivably to be earned by nine of the sixteen coaches in the Sweet Sixteen full info on the remaining seven is not available the sums range from seventy five thousand dollars for Virginia. Text buzz Williams to one million one hundred seventy five thousand dollars for Florida state's Leonard Hamilton. Now, I am not a major advocate a paying collegiate players is a very logistically complicated subject. It seems to me that the some other day, but these bonuses are well unseemly. I'm sure each of the sixteen is already in the seven figures salary range. You would think colleges would be a bit more careful about their public image. If they're trying to maintain the idea that it's all about quote, amateur unquote athletics for what these guys get they ought to achieve wouldn't you think? Meanwhile, if I'm buzz Williams, I'm thinking about hiring letter Hamilton's age. Mike trout, just signed a bazillion dollar contract with the angels. That seems to last about a gazillion years is the biggest superstar of American sports who is seen. The least. He's good at baseball. Lebron James has been at basketball. And he now does have the biggest contract in history. And you wonder if he walked into your diner while you were having breakfast just how many people would recognize him. He's this generation's Willie Mays. He has that kind of skill set. But it is worth remembering that maze when he was still Mays played in two World Series in his career before he made it back to the series with the Mets when he was over the age of forty. There are no guarantees in baseball Barry Bonds played one World Series. Alex Rodriguez who hit six hundred ninety seven home runs in the big leagues. Even if it did it with help played one with the Yankees trout's played three playoff games in his career Sephora and hit one lactobacillus run. He is not just the greatest player of his time. Here's one of the greatest of all. All time except it not enough. People are watching. I wish I could tell you. He'll get the great postseason stage this year. But I don't think he will. Fig baller just got smaller. The shoe brand created by loud. Mouth lavar ball to exploited kids basketball talent, just lost its most valuable asset. Lonzo ball quit the outfit in dispute over his father's friend and big ballers, partial stakeholder. Alan foster foster had a significant criminal past something Lonzo apparently didn't know anything about you too. Daddy might have told him. But then Papa ball was never about transparency only about publicity. Lonzo breaking ties is a first big step away from the choking relationship with his father which had grown in a word creepy, but equally creepy is the embraced LeBron James and his inseparable Nike cloak are. Now, offering James said, quote, I just seen the kid turning into a man, and quote, whatever the kid decides to do with Nike. We would welcome him. He also added with a smile he plays. Well, when he has on his Nike's enough with viewing this kid by what he wears on his feet. Let's see where he's even playing next year, by the way, the idea of an NBA player making wearing his own shoes isn't awful and could have shaken the monopoly that a handful of companies have it's just charging customers a month salary to buy them, lavar ball is lunacy. Lonzo ball has had one of the rockiest entrances into the NBA in recent memory. He just shed one big burden towards becoming his own, man. Maybe telling Nike not so fast would be that's going to do it. For today's broadcast of these worshipers podcast. We do this every Monday and Thursday. You can get it wherever you get popular podcast, including on the Stitcher platform. Make sure to check it out there. We will see you on Monday, and until then with all the brackets and opening days and all the great stuff going on around the sports landscape on behalf of Mike Luca and Bob Ryan. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 163 - Where is Cinderella in this year's NCAA Tournament? Discussing Rob Gronkowski's career.

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 163 - Where is Cinderella in this year's NCAA Tournament? Discussing Rob Gronkowski's career.

"The. Winning journalists New York Times fillers topic out bounds. No opinion, left unsaid and institution for sports. Talk and information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu. Mitch Albom at Bob Ryan Amish album of the Detroit Free Press group again L dot com. Bog Ryan of the Boston Globe? And ESPN. We welcome you to the Monday morning edition of the sports reporters podcast. We have been together as a team for a long long time. I on television. And now we are here on a podcast Monday and Thursday, you circled on your calendar. Gentlemen, we said on Thursday that we would have a lot to talk about on Monday. Because we knew the be lots of Paul's bouncing around the nation, and we will start with the the game of the day yesterday when the Duke blue devils, and I think the Popper of word is survival. They did manage to survive the UCF the guys the the unites and taco fall and Aubrey dockets and so many ways to look at this game guys. And I'm just going to throw it out there. You guys dumped on up the jump ball between Mitch and Mike Goto it. Well, the star of the college basketball season the guy who has been. Treated like the sports LeBron this year, even when he got hurt. It was huge news throughout the sports world. Zayn Williamson was was great when they needed to be. And I know Barrett made a great put back, and I understand all that. But Zion Williams on a day when Aubrey dockings really look like the other best player in college basketball pretty much put Duke on its head. And I'll just say this to me even in a year when the favorites are mostly winning. That was everything that is great about the NCAA basketball tournament. Mitch I was talking to Bob before we started today. I go back to so many games. I have seen were a ball hung on a rim deciding which way to fall whether to drop dead through the basket or fall off and seasons and careers are defined in that moment. I remember a kid named Bobby heat and made a shot like that against Arkansas in a regional final year magic and Larry wants for. But not only did the ball. Hang twice once yesterday it hung twice and either one of those shots could've fallen through and Duke goes home and Bob's right? When you say they survive they survived barely. Yeah. Four different things had to happen right for Duke in order to be where they are. And all of them did first of all the free throw. Well, no, I'll go back before that the the lob the lob that Aubrey dock and should have jammed that would have done it. I mean, that's a six point lead. And they can kind of ride that out. And it's always those ones where the guy slapped their hands. Like, oh, man, and you go that's the difference between teams that put the foot on the throat of their opponent. And teams that let them get back up. Then they have a four point lead. And they get the great play by Williamson. He misses the free throw. Now if taco fall. I I certainly enjoyed both his name and watching them, although there were many times during the game where you know, you go like man if that kid could really play with that body what a force he would be the he does. And he's like a lot of guys in the history of basketball at that kind of height are just. They're not coordinated. They don't move the same way guys go past them. And they're, you know, they're not always they're not. They're not dominating the way, seven foot six would suggest that you could dominate. But he fouls out if he's in the game rebounding on a free throw, don't you think? His odds are pretty getting. I keep looking at that play. Mitch if he had been on the other side, they got a big bounce on that rebound. Okay. And if I don't know what Bobby thinks if he had been on the other side of the lane. I'm still not sure he gets that ball. It takes a big cockeyed bounce. And I'm not sure it's it's automatic. The follow it gotten that ball. Right. Well, that's that's the whole thing. It's took a crazy bounce. How often does that happen? You can't control that. When you miss a free throw, boxing out all the rest of it. So that's the second thing. The third thing. I'm losing counteracting. Then then when when UCF comes down they got two good shots normally. Like, they panic and they throw up something that drive the kid who who went in and took it for layup was pretty good. You know, considering how hard he was going full steam it went off the glass, it just kind of rimmed out and then Dhaka's put back. He did. Absolutely everything you're supposed to do except just a little too strong, a little lighter and dukes home, and we're talking about wait a minute Zion. Williamson led Duke went home in the second round such a different store. Let's back up before the frito s Bob this, Bob. And I know we both pay flopping. Okay. Was that an offensive foul on on his way to the who almost without question. And that's what I think. That's what I think to general thing. I want to get to admit. I wanna yes, I do think. So I want to back up before we forget we talked about the lob Mitch thought about this. This is how the evolution of basketball, and the astonishing athleticism of the modern athlete. It can be counterproductive. If this at that exact same sequence taking place twenty years ago, certainly thirty years ago. They're going for a layup. And they're going to make the layup almost undoubtedly they're going to have the shot, but we are in a different world. Now, we're in that everybody goes for the home run past the lob dunk is a staple of modern basketball on every level. And that didn't even occur to them. Not to go for the lob or or or not not that Steve way, they know how to play. So I'm just on it at first thing. I thought I was twenty years ago. He's landed in. Catching it and dunking it he's not trying to they're not going to lob at the. Okay. That's just just consider that folks about how the game has changed. And in this sense. The lettuce zone was actually counter productive. Okay. Hey now be Zion. Williamson is a refereeing nightmare. I if I am a referee. I do not want to do game. I've seriously mean this this only one of the player in recent times that that that was such a package that present the people to make refereeing nightmare with Shaquille O'Neal because he was big and strong and also had pretty good feet, and he created so much contact, and so many times it was who's who's initiated it. And who's he was a nightmare to Zion. Williamson is exact same thing. He plows a head. He's got sturdy, but not particular play. I honest, I think right away. I said, oh that that should be a charge in my head. But it won't be in. They didn't call it. Okay. Yes. I do think it was a charge. And how about the moment of grace at the end of the scamming so much happened in the last two minutes of the game. And we have now talked about most of the place. Okay. And BJ Taylor. It looks like he wins the game a kid who wanted to stay home and put UCF on the map and nearly did in the biggest possible way against the biggest name in college basketball. But how about the moment not only did this include a kid Aubrey Dawkins who grew up learning to play basketball in the Duke, Jim because his dad was a former Duke star was sitting next to Mike chefs and years my, and then you can how that scene with with Johnny and Mike at the end of that game. There's so much graceless stuff that goes on in this tournament. And there's so much stuff that makes you wince. And that that Mike nearly choked up talking about Johnny dockings when the game was over chefs key. Consistently when his team gets lucky. He says so and I like that about and there are a lot of coaches just can't bring themselves to say that the other teams should have won the game. And that was the first thing out of his mouth, and he said they played well enough to win, and we got lucky, and that's that's the summation of because when you've got two backboards to eliminate a team and both times the ball just rims out. Yeah. You got lucky and remember Duke is supposed to win the game UCF is not. So for them to even be in it at that point is a bit of a loss for Duke and victory for UCF. It's not a moral victory. Doesn't make them feel any better. But the fact that it was that close at the end. In the in the larger picture does make you question. Why was why was Duke in this thing? Now, my is someone asked me earlier today was doing radio program. Do you think that this means, you know, their shaky the rest of the way my experience is it's exactly the opposite. When you have a close game in the second round. Or even the first round it tends to propel you in the tournament. If you win it not to trip you up. It doesn't give you doubt. I've watched this happened on the Michigan runs five had one of those kind of games in the second round. There have been UCLA the nine nineteen nine team. Same kind of thing. There's one game along the way that it's like we survived that one, and it somehow propels you forward. Now critics could say what was Duke dominant Duke with Zion Williams greatest player doing in a shootout in the final minutes with UCF. I don't know if you guys. That is talented is they are as talented as they are. Okay. They still put four freshman out there, and and can Bob you can be talented and thin at the same time. They had well, we're guys scores. Seventy two out of seventy seven points. They brought to guys they brought to guys off the bench in this game. First of all I felt going into the tournament that though I did pick them in my quote unquote bracket, it was very shakily because they are vulnerable and vulnerability will not go away anytime soon, they are still not a reliable outside shooting team. And they are thin as Mike us just diluted. Then I think seventy. How many points all two out of seventy seventy seven. Okay. Number one, number two. Mitch they struggled stumbled around against Gardner Webb. They were trailing in the first half. They they are far from invincible far from it. And they're vulnerable still. They're vulnerable number one. I believe believe that. So I think that they'll keep the mind, you know, they're looking at a at a game perhaps against against Michigan state and. They'll be Virginia. Check, I think. But as you can spike, you're right about the three point shooting and actually yesterday, a reddish makes a very big three. Okay. They forty percent from three for the point. That's pretty good for them. They actually that was actually a decent three point shooting day. But foul trouble. Mitch foul. Trouble could get them their youth could get them. And again, they just a surpassing Lee great college player this kid who's a force in nature, basically in again, I I'm not dismissing Barrett's put back he put them on his back yesterday and just wouldn't let them lose. And how much ski saying to those kids during the big break there. These two you were born to play these two minutes. That's pretty cool. That's by the way one. We we have to make an allusion to since we have enough time. It is not to there is debate whether or not Barrett pushed off, and if you see it again, you know, there were nine call. Judge their benefited the two biggest calls. Saloon absolutely benefits benefited the two biggest bounces and it took all of that to win by a point let so, you know, but but I'm gonna say this. I've watched this tournament enough times to see that. There are teams that bumble as you as you use the word through victory and bumble through victory. And there are other teams that cruise by twenty. And when they meet you do not favor the team necessarily, the cruise by twenty the battle tested stuff that happens in this tournament when you manage to win by a handful of points and a handful of points and a handful of points makes you ready for the next round. So I would not necessarily look at this as. As well. This means that Duke is in trouble because they played tough game. First of all, they beat North Dakota state right that they beat Gardner Webb, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. It was north of guys. They ended up screening they mucked around a little bit. But they ended up beating them by twenty plus points. And they got this one point when they're going to beat Virginia Tech, I believe and what's going to be really interesting is Michigan state's run at this thing. Michigan state getting stronger as they go along. They're looking very good. They have an interesting game against LSU LSU is. You know, they remind me a little of the Michigan team in eighty nine. The scape Fisher. I tweeted out that thirty years later. We may have a Fisher in the making LSU and Tony Benford. Yeah. Concrete before we go any any further. I just wanna make fischel a mayor COPA. Mea culpa may maximum COPA for the stupidity of saying what I said three or four minutes ago that about the putting the opponent up against Duke in the first month. I was confusing in my head with Virginia full full accountability. That's a big word. Now, there's a lot of IM accountable for my stupid error. Okay now. Go ahead guys. All right. So LSU goes against Michigan state. You're right, Mike thirty years ago. Bill Frieder got fired Steve Fisher took over everybody. Was they were amid middle pick. You know? I don't even think they were number three. I think they were four or five in the tournament and and win six games than they win the national championship almost because it's like God. What else could happen to us? We already lost our coach there's a little of that going on with you, except it's they fired Michigan fired. It's coach because both Shamba cler said a Michigan man's going to coach Michigan. It wasn't a national disgrace. They weren't being investigated by the FBI whole different set of circumstances here. So I don't know how much that stuff ways. Or doesn't weigh on LSU. I think they'll give Michigan state a tough game. But I think Michigan state will prevail in which case you get to the scenario which should not I'm going to go on record and say should not have happened. Michigan state should not have to play Duke to get to the final four and Duke should not have to play Michigan state to get to the final four. They're a better team than that. They should have been in a different bracket. And people said that when the Turnham came guy, we got sixty four teams in here. So let's let's go. Well, now, you're finding out that eventually place it self out on one of those two is not going to make it into the final four if they play other. And that would be a shame because they're both worthy of being at that final weekend. But, but there's there was always going to know. There was always going to be a non number one who was going to fall into that thing match. I mean, but I stay. I was one of the top four seats. I did not. I know. But I know, but I thought they were the fifth and they ended up with with arguably the toughest team in the fifth. You're supposed to be down. We either playing against Gonzaga or over where Kentucky is. But you know, they got put in the first thing that they have to play a big ten opponent which ever used to happen. You know, the always used to keep the conference a separate until at least lead Eytan and that was kind of weird playing Minnesota. Although they bloom out, and I'm just saying we'll have this argument next week to if they're there. I don't I'm not even sure I after yesterday after the turnament I've seen we did. We saw the greatness of design Williamson, and we see how good Barrett is all that stuff. Okay. Guys. I'm still not sure that North Carolina's not better than do. That's just that's just I'm playing the eye test to the turnament I've seen so far mica totally agree with you, totally agree with you. I know I think. I think right now, if you're if you're seating teams now right now, if you give me a power order, I'm going Carolina. They've been the most impressive team. And there are deeper 'cause Carolina is always you. All right. Let me let me just let's just stay on LSU for one second. Okay. Because there were some wonderful games this weekend and Maryland LSU was one of them. And and here again Mitch and Bob this is what we talk about sometimes goes in. Sometimes it says, it's it's like all coaches always say, it's a Mrmic league. It's a mistake tournament how about trauma waters drive against Maryland. And them drawing up a play in in the huddle. One of these coaches, let's do that. And they said, yeah. Because it'll work against either zone or man to man, beautiful play beautiful drive scope scope had the sense of going underhand rather than over and doing it noted that could have been made in nineteen fifty five I loved it. That was that was basketball that I grew up watching. And deterrment though, you give to the kid and say get us the next weekend. That's all. And say get us to nets weekend. Speaking of that. And by the way, close on LSU, they do blow leads in the second half. And you can't do that against Michigan state are not going to have that kind of lead against Michigan state, so beware. Both games. They blew. Double digit leads. But you talk about calling on a guy how about grant Williams and Tennessee, here's here's a game. Where they have a twenty five point lead blow it end up going over time. And then turn on the jets and overtime and runaway against Iowa, very gutty. I would team and I watched that game. And I watched grant Williams I asked Bob who's who's much more expert on basketball before we started the show is grant Williams like that all the time. And you said, you know, he's he's a wooden award contender is he was the player of the year in his conference. He's really solid and he's not just good, but solid. He's two way. He squares up to take a shot. It's patient. It looks like yes. This shots going to go in and he did that over and over again he made some fantastic passes. He blocked a guy on the way up. That was a case of a guy as you said, Mike, put it on your shoulders of your best player and get us there. And I like what they're doing. I picked Tennessee. Actually, I think to make the final four, and I think a lot of this year a lot of the twos. The twos. Are there with the ones? I mean if you really look at the twos. Michigan Michigan state, Tennessee. The this really good teams. You know, there's not a drop off from the ones they belong in the conversations with North Carolina and Duke. The week guys this election Sunday, we all you know, all bitching about Michigan state in about the ones in twos. And the fact is we knowledge even ended there were six or so for four and the those top eight or all very worthy and shocked to see on Tennessee. They got another guy who's got maybe my favorite name chairman Admiral skull field. I Admiral Admiral Scofield, and by the way, do you know where Admiral Scofield is from guys Zion, Illinois. That's great. I the dialogue after that game. Of course, Senator back that he did not he was supposedly upset at himself from the action saying let Kyle play they're doing. Okay with Kyle Alexander out there. What do we do? We believe still at nineteen points in twenty four minutes seventeen in seventeen first-half. Yeah. But I just think that they're very talented. I've never been a big believer in their coach. I never have been not at any of his stops along the way. But but again, you know, Mitch I've seen Michigan state, and they they probably play the best defensive anybody in the chairman. Okay. And that's why it's going to be fun to see if they can make it past Duke. Okay. But Tennessee probably thinks we're the fifth best team in this tournament. Because a lot of people thought they were locked number one the whole year. By the way, Admiral and wasn't there captain Monroe Lynn and the NFL did I miss a trend where people just start naming their children after military titles. Actually, there was a boxer about twenty-five load. Apple scofield. Don't worry about it. Just you just say, yes, sir. Admiral. But what about the what are you guys stand on the, you know, what's your take? If you will on him not playing in the especially not playing at all in the overtime. I think this was an example. And we don't always see it in sports where you know. It's the old line. It doesn't matter which five start to gave which end the game and coaches say those five earn their way to those minutes and apparently Barnes just thought that sculptor EDNA Gopi. Gopi stepping up Santa was his idea to I on board with it that he wanted this group's going fine. Let them go. And I don't want to mess up there with him. And I didn't feel he said he didn't have feeling that. He was in his rhythm, his feeling just not inviting how many times he said he. How many times do you watch a game? And you'll see the quote second group. Get a team back into it. Okay. This is a little different. And you say, no, no stay with that group. And that's kind of what they did. Well, according to the reports, go field himself said, you know. Not I wanna sit on the bench. But we're we're better with Kyle in. They're pretty cool. If he did Mitch. By the way, you ask you said something about Michigan state and the defense in tournament. There were very good defensive team. They're not the best. The best is actually plays down the road from them. And they're going to play a game against Texas Tech where if the first team to forty is probably going to win because Michigan not only has played great defense all year. They're playing really great defense in the tournament. Here. They held Montana to fifty five Florida to forty nine and it's going to keep going down from there and Texas Tech does the same thing that they're literally ranked one and two. If you watch the, you know, wasn't great reason to watch Michigan Florida game unless you happen to be a Michigan fan because it wasn't close. But Florida was choked to death in that game. They could not get inside. You know, they just couldn't score anything that. Michigan defense would Tesco's a seven footer. They're really really good defensively their challenges to score points. If they're not hitting their outside shots, and that's probably what Texas Tech is going to face as well. But that's going to be an interesting side of the bracket tube. Because I thought when I looked at how it all shaped up and watching Michigan all year long. I thought they got a very favorable placement. They opened against Montana, which wasn't going to be a challenge for them. I didn't think they were gonna lose to Florida. I really think they can beat Texas Tech Amine, just while they're both great defensive teams Michigan's played a lot tougher schedule. If you look at the, you know, the teams that they've beaten here as not a body of work from Texas Tech from you to judge, and then Gonzaga, which everybody. You know, even now continue to like, they're like, the least talked about number one seed in this thing. And that's who Michigan win end up having to play. Now, Bob being the resident expert are we sleeping, Gonzaga? Do we just are we just conditioned not to talk about them because we don't believe they're going to get him, Terry. I am personally proprietary toward Gonzaga. And I think that they're playing when they play well, they have weapons tickly the front court weapons and Clark coming off a tremendous game. Hutcheon more is a quality a big time player big metal very very good. I think they can be very good tell you. What though they got? They're going to have say their hands full to fascinating double header because Florida state is a very chic. Pick a very fall in love Leonard Hamilton seem -absolutely very chic pick with the two big guys and Kevin Kelly and Mogae. And all the other. They're loaded with athletes. They always are. And he he's a he's a noble man in this profession, Leonard Hamilton, very respected. That's gonna be very interesting game. That's a third of the teams left are from a C. It's just that they're going to be they got bragging rights. This is what they're always telling the world five teams from the ACC, and and that's bragging rights four from the SEC. So, you know. Wow. But but the ACC, you know, that this is this is only fueling the legend and the mythology and and how can you refute it? You know, you can't weigh one more thing on Texas Tech. Do you guys? Remember crispier d- the coach had taken the UNLV job. Do you remember this? And then he did what he was one of those change my mind guys and decided to go to Texas Tech. And man Mitch you're right about the defense. They are tough out. They've got a really good year and interesting if he can take them where Bobby Knight couldn't Bobby Knight have anything to do with Texas Tech. I don't think it's anything do with anybody. He's he's he's out of sight. Now. No serious. Yes. Yes. I think he's kind of. I think he's faded a little bit from Tom. I I wasn't going to go there. No, no. I just think not on the what to say about it. Here thing we've heard things and. This journal per second. So here we are we have the Sweet Sixteen but really it's kind of the sweet fourteen because those sweetheart teams are either one two three or four seats. The only we have won twelve in Oregon, who by the way, I thought was never going to score another bass night niche. I was nine minutes it felt like ninety minutes. So I finally tweeted it out I said, I was very confident that someday Oregon, which Gordon, okay? So for all that Cinderella the been dance Cinderella's slipper. The closing. We have is Oregon a twelve seed, but I cannot remember a turnament quite like this where fourteen of the teams were one twos. Threes fours chalky is to an event. Yeah. L mcguire. Chalk and chalky is twenty minute is. So this. So the whole as you said, no, the big dance stuff the whole methology is kind of in shouted a little bit. This is absolutely a chalk tournament. Even even your twelve team comes from a power conference right now, the only now we'll never know if they would have gotten had they not won the conference to because there was a real possibility that the Pac twelve could have been restricted into a one bid league. But they did get in here they are. And then the other five is from the CC who won the conference tournament. Yeah. No. I. Personally, I'm fine with this because the sister jeans, and those kinds of stories I find they lay off sister, Jean bother you personally, gene. I find with the media attention to this thing it becomes disproportionate. If there one hundred stories eighty two of them are about a sister Jeanne and the other eighteen or about the other teams that are left in turn. That's not the way it should be. I really think at this level and with the kind of excellence that you have in college basketball now and a lot of these amazing players who play together for a year and then move on. It's probably more fitting to have this kind of tournament where fourteen of the sixteen or all top ranking. And now this is about excellence as opposed to odds, and I I don't know how do you guys feel? There's a Bob for years. I have I have said this. I've said it about big tennis tournaments to you wanna have a great first week at Wimbledon or the US open. Okay. It'll screw up your second week. And it'll certainly screw up. The back end you want Cinderella and buzzer-beaters and a lot of upsets the first weekend. Okay. But it'll screw up. What you really the tournament? You really wanna watch the last two weekends of it. I am completely fine with this. Because Cinderella has been a myth in college basketball forever. We actually have a reasonable chance for four one to match. It's a reasonable chance. It's not like we some some one of the threes going to be one of the twos. But you tell me which one has the best chance LSU over Michigan state, Texas Tech over Michigan Purdue over Tennessee or Houston over Kentucky. Which one of those does really good Bob produce, really good. Just. Clock day beat they that wouldn't shock you. They'd be Tennessee. No, I'm not going to be shocked shocked any of them. I'm just no not really Houston over Kentucky Houston's inches, right? Texas tech. Michigan is going to be fifty three fifty one. Okay. It's it's going to look like the shot clock was was never put into college basketball. I think Michigan state is better. But there might be some weirdness going on with LSU. Right. Let me talk about a team that drives me crazy because I don't know. Whether I want to admire them or I want them out damn spot. And that's Virginia. You're fixed on Virginia. I am because you. I so fixated that you gotta be a better offense of team to get the win a championship. No pure defensive team has public when the championship. I don't think Cincinnati nine hundred sixty two honest to God. But but they do have a an efficient offense guy is a tremendous player. She can statement one with a whole lot of defense when they Mitch don't you think? So I mean, they were more defensive, but they won with machine cleaves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they were they were they were great rebounding. But they could score. They weren't they weren't without scores machine. Was great offense. Final like didn't. They win with sixty three points or something or could have been. But wasn't Florida. You know, sometimes it's just you miss. Your shot's not because you're not capable of making them. But here's what we learned about Michigan. We're learning about Virginia in two hundred. I'm learning shoes me, I shouldn't generalize. I am learning is that they have some depth. They got a seven foot kid name. Huff who really affected the game. Seriously. And. He hustles gets around. And and when you watch them on defense the way they do it the way they moved the way that they are of fascinating. I do have them. I had them in my back losing, Tennessee. So they're in target. We're on course for that collision to happen. But but they. You know and talk about team that was playing with a with a burden was playing with something that was extra know what the team had to deal with. And they've so far survived though. They as I said they did stumble around against Gardner Webb. I had I had the team stumbled against Gardner Webb somebody stairway Gardner with anyway, Virginia. They and they have a favorable. Let's face it. They're the ones that get to honor a playing the lowest seed Oregon, and I expect him to win that game. But Jinya, you know, don't don't sleep on on gin and Mike. You follow Kentucky, you know, Calipari. Well, what are we making them this year? I mean, they're there every year. You just don't know if they're for real every year, you know, what I just think PJ being hurt really really really hurts them. And there's a trickle down. We you know, when you score like that trickle down append affect the offense. And Mitch I don't know how much you saw over gave me their life or death to win that. Right. I mean, they will full they couldn't they couldn't pull away. They're so talented, and it's so funny after all the one in done -ness of Cal Cal really sort of invented the one in done in college basketball. It just turns out that is talented as his team is that that might just has better one in the this time around that that chef ski came along. And it's almost like he's he's trying to beat Cal his own game. We have no I don't think there's any question about that Mike and he's doing it. You're right, positively he's doing it. And. I was I'm sorry that Washington is impaired. If he plays you can't behind it percent. Because that that's a game that I was really looking forward to if you're asked me before the twin started what game are you want? Do. You wanna see I wanna see Carolina Kentucky, we malls white elbow game. I wanted to sing it's a foot injury. You know, they just don't heal quickly. Once you saw in the cast and the boot and on the little scooter, I don't see how do either one of you think this kid's going to? I mean, maybe he could play maybe he could play when they get to Minneapolis. But but they're going to get to Minneapolis. I doubt it. I mean, kids kids always astound me at this age what they can come back from and how they can rebound. And I'm not sure they're better than Carolina. Anyway, Mitch, you know, I just think I'm not sure anybody's better than Carolina. I I like I like Carolina very much. I liked what I've watched them. We've all watched them play the top level. They played Duke really well this year, and we know what they're capable of. So there would not surprise me if they win everything, and we'll just be Koby white, man. No doesn't look Joe. Mitch Bob, no says if Boston College every one of our great hockey teams, always looks the same. Okay, doesn't this? Just look like every great Carolina team that ROY Williams says hat. He's got all the pieces are there all the Williams? This. I'll go back to sixty seven when dean's first final four team. And the absolute these teams will on and on and on this ROY warriors, nothing more than an extension of DNA nut in that regard image. Carolina thing has been constant for now for since nineteen sixty seven. So it's a great Sweet Sixteen week last. Guys thing on college basketball to Metri ass- Djamil. Jay Moran Moran. Yep. Yeah. That was now done probably with this college basketball days for Murray state how good how high in the NBA six foot three hundred seventy five. So he's not he's not he's not one of these undersized look small, but he's not under size can shoot ridiculously while. Everybody keeps talking about tying Williamson. I've heard some people say, you know, wouldn't shock them. If this kid ends up as a number one pick. I surprise Zion goes one. And then it's a question whether Barrett Aramco's to. Depends on what you're looking for a wonderful college basketball plays wonderful. And how about the idea did he played on the same team Zion still was not widely recruited whatever the cases. He's softly bloomed blossomed since those days. Godless Murray, and that's just say Murray states, one of those on the next level in that second tier that that you know, we never see on TV during a year after year, but there are a perennial power in your world. And just just salute them. I mean, they they keep coming coming at you for thirty years in their little world they made the tournament like twenty sometimes. So Mary state. I'm just gonna little shut out those racers. I love the one more salute before we move on to Aubrey Bach talking. Oh my God. What a basketball game he played. And he doesn't get to keep playing by the way in so people don't have anybody knows that coach case exports. So many guys got, but Johnny Dawkins of all the guys, you know, all the all the wo- Joe's and all the all the Jeff cables and all the the hunt the guy that is the special special special one is to him is Johnny Dawkins because Johnny darkens was the first high school superstar that said, yes. S two Mike just you have ski as Duke coach. And they're in the others the IRS and abilities in Alary played on that team and David Henderson that one I wonderful eighty five eighty six, but Johnny Dawkins was his first marquee recruit. And he got the whole thing we'll wing and for that coach case forever grateful before we go on guys. Let me say this about pair club. 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Thank you. That said the word truly every other word truly, great truly thankful truly thankful, but his wording aside in his nine years. He made more of a dent and dent in the position of tight end than I think anytime before him, and there have been great tight end before, you know, Tony Gonzalez and others like that. But he really embodied what that position can be and Bill Belichick. I think identified it best. When he complimented and being complete tight end. And I think what he means by that if you can't block at the tight imposition, and I mean, really block and take on linemen mostly receiver. And if you can't catch. You know, when you're just there to block, then you're basically alignment, so you know, he was both and. You know, I have no doubts because craziness aside that he's hall of fame first ballot material at that position or else. I don't know. I don't know in the tight end position. Who else would be? What are you guys thing? He to me to me Mitch when healthy and the modern tight end was invented by the great light, great, John Mackey. Okay. That kind of big strong fast guy. But I will say, rob. Congrats greatest tight end ever play football now. No disrespect to Gonzales or Mackey or anybody else at his his best was better than anybody else's best. I don't even think Bob. I don't know. It's in dispute is it. Well, it shouldn't be and it will be because that's just an interest. What's arguments? Mike I've been saying. For years if you're playing for your life. I love this. This the way you're going to let let's get right down to it. If you're playing a football game for your life. If earth is playing against an planetary invader in the loser goes into servitude. Wait a minute. Now is it amid major planetary invader. No, no, no, no, no, no, major planetary power on power five conference in planetary. And we're playing them. And this is the one game for our live for the future of humanity on earth as we know it and it's a football game. And the loser with this game. All the people go into servitude for all. We turn ity the apes type deal. Like that. Really? The tight end. See Mench doesn't ask you. These kinds of these are the kinds of questions that probing stuff to you the tight and very much. Thank you. That of all time that you want the win disable it is wild cask. Yeah. Now career because alone jeopardy with Tony kansallis. And then we can start any Mike you're so right identifying where it and he had a guy the secondary guy. Probably was actually the duck. Coach was nothing is not as good as Macki Macki. The maquis highlights films are still somebody. Great step you'll ever see football. But this guy bigger stronger, faster better. John Mackey period. Dick. Dick was great ticket was great people. Forget how great Mike Dickey was this guy. This guy played the position better than anyone has ever played it. And because he is a great. So do you think he is done? I play one thousand nine urging him to quit. I would surprise you Mike you people around. Here are surprising and grateful number of people grateful to me the people enough rational people want join me in hoping that he would quit. We want him to have a body and have a happy life because sooner or later, some DB's going to to get those knees once and for all because they can't talk legally or properly gotta go for the knees. And anyway, his back he's had multiple back surgeries. He's had all kinds of he knows his body. And he and he's intelligent enough to know that there's a life ahead of him. And he likes other things in life. He loves life. He went to enjoy that life. He wants to the things he wants to do he's and he understands that he's. Put all that risk. If he continues to play football Ray, he doesn't relent. What does he do if he doesn't play kidding on an analyst? No, he'll he'll find some. He may go he'll do something. Silly. You know, by the way who else would in his farewell address. Thank the team for drafting him in his silliness that we're up yours. You know, what I've only watched the same clips and watched his career play out. But don't rule out that that a goofball like this could end up being a big television star. Not not a Mensa meeting talking about football. Let's hope he doesn't wrestle that. That's a possibility because you can get hurt doing that even so, but he'll find something fun to do. He'll find hill. He wants to enjoy his life and God love them for it. And and he's left us with an isn't it wonderful? How lucky he is? He goes out on top. And the last member we have him as making gronkowski catch. Right. The Super Bowl it crucial crucial clutch catch typical of his entire career. Let me just say one more thing about him. I would really wish that the quarterback. We're going out with them. Well, that raises the question that I wanted to ask which is okay. Let me throw the I'm not throwing water on them. I'm just saying if you put them on a team where Blake Bortles was the quarterback for nine years. Would we be talking about him the same way? I mean, we cannot deny you cannot deny the Tom Brady made an art form out of finding gronkowski those their their chemistry their ability to to look off another receiver and then to find him those throws right down the middle that require sex precision on those kinds of passes to catch a guy in stride. Very few quarterbacks can make those throws all the time. And he had that quarterback and was able to make that. So is he? We have in the same discussion. If he doesn't play with Tom Brady number one wouldn't all through blocking number one. And number two. Yes, you say that very good thing there. But I'm gonna tell you that. There's no other one of the reasons he's the greatest tight end of all time is that his hands were phenomenal. He made guys he made a lot of incredible fingertip catches on poor throws or or not quite proper throws. Not quite one hundred percent throws as well. He bailed out that quarterback as well. As a lot of times as well. So I'm going to say he could've survived and become rob gronkowski anywhere. I believe that somebody would have found a way to get him the ball. They were talking about trading him to the lions last year, and the lions would have been stupid enough to do it. And you know, and have many would have retired right on them. Probably after the second game. But is there anything anything, Bob? Besides the fact that he's maybe looking in his health. Is there any suggestion that that, you know, if he didn't retire New England wasn't necessarily going to be keeping him because you know, Bill chick who gave him the greatest compliment can still be very cold hearted departing with players the money they short they've messed around with him last couple years and made him play on a lot of incentive Laden contract stuff. No question that the coldbloodedness was going to take could've come down. Yes. There's no doubt about it. But but right now, they haven't protected themselves in that position. At all. However, any mentioned we're gonna get an ex patriot. Why why wouldn't you? Any mortal even for? To retire on a messy told him flat out, he wouldn't go. He would retire. He said that it's that's what he says he told them mcgrady's. This Cape reminding yourself, I will keep pinning this. And I believe he's sincere. And I do hope, you know. There's nothing worse. I've always said that there's nothing worse than watching an expert ball player either walk up or down a flight of stairs. Okay. Having said that he's twenty nine years old and even two years down the road. He could change his mind. He could I mean, if he gets bored in turns out that you know, I think it will muse himself quite well. But it's conceivable he could become bored. And you know, and we'll have another discussion. But I just I just want him slotted properly. I think most people agree that he is the greatest tight end and those that don't need to be educated, by the way before we get to party shots today before it gets parting shots, you will get a full complement of baseball on opening day on Thursday. We will we will devote we we'll have half. Baseball and half looking ahead to the weekend in college Benjamin. Last last thought last last KOTA on rob gronkowski is. I'm reading this. And it reminds me his junior year at Arizona back surgery. And he ended up missing it he declared for the draft on account of that as a result. He falls into the second round film. Bella check trades to move up two spots trade with the Oakland Raiders were still doing the same kind of business to move up two spots to get him. Think of all those things that have to happen and how they portend for everything that happened back surgery. He comes into the league coming off a Baxter. So it's amazing. He lasted nine years to begin with Ambala check spotted him despite that and traded up spots to go get him. When people didn't even know really how he was. And he ends up with New England and the rest is history. It all sort of fits the tapestry of his career. All right. Let's hit our parting shots and. Luca wanted to lead off for now hurting. Okay. So far this spring. The Billy's have made a huge bet on Bryce Harper that nearly takes Harper to his fortieth birthday as long as he's blessed with good health. Then the angels, basically did the same with Mike trout giving even better money to an even better baseball player, and we'll see how all of this works out. But in the short term with shorter contracts and smaller money, though, the money is still pretty damn big. There's nothing riskier than paying a starting pitcher in baseball. Justin, Burland mitch's old friend. Just got a big extension that takes him past his thirty eighth birthday with the Astros. And now the Red Sox extend Chris sale who had shoulder issues as recently as last summer for five years and nearly one hundred fifty million dollars, my friend BUSTER only ESPN Rupp that the sale deal is a bad one for a really good guy. The guy who did get the last three out of the last World Series for the Red Sox out of the bullpen. I'm not sure busters wrong about that. I'm happy for these pitchers. Even though they're all just one pitch away. But ask yourself something as you look at Berlin deal and sales. How good are the dodgers feeling about having Clayton Kershaw locked up and down for the foreseeable future. Kemba Walker went off on the Celtics and Kyrie Irving sounded all we should have done this. We should've done that. And people said, oh my God. He's dissing to coach was a little. So what did Brad Stevens say quote? Okay. As long as players put their name on it. I've got an open mind with regard to if he's ever got any ideas about how teams that he's played with have guarded in the past or whatever I don't get too caught up in that, unquote. This I submit is mature coaching one. Oh, one let coaches all over the land taking speaking of coaching was only a matter of time names are now being bandied about as placements for Luke Walton as coach of the Lakers, Jason Kidd, the most recent. I'm sure there will be others. But before we start acting as if a coach is what will fix this Lakers thing. Let's recognize that. Lebron James became the coach the moment he arrived, and he'll continue to be no matter who's wearing the suit. Personally. I'd like to see L as front office. Keep Walton if only to send a message to LeBron that, hey, we actually still own this team you need to bring what you're supposed to bring before we start shedding other positions. But that's not the way things work in the player. First NBA. So I wouldn't be surprised to see someone new wearing a tie on the Lakers bench next year. But no, this whatever works for Steve Kerr and Steph curry Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson doesn't seem to happen with LeBron James teams. And if LeBron doesn't find a way to inspire the young talent he's paired with or whatever new superstar comes in and signs on the Laker line. It won't really matter who the coaches, and it won't be his fault. That's going to wrap things up for today's port supporters podcast. We do this every Monday and Thursday. So how deliciously set up we will be for both the tournament and baseball the gods have smiled on our calendar. You can. Get this podcast wherever you get popular podcasts and particularly on Stitcher platform. So make sure you check it out there until we see you on Thursday and behalf of Bob Ryan and Mike Lupu. This is Mitch Albom. Saying have a terrific.

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 261 - The Continued Impact of Coronavirus on the Sports World

The Sports Reporters

50:27 min | 7 months ago

The Sports Reporters - Episode 261 - The Continued Impact of Coronavirus on the Sports World

"Ward Winning Journalists New York Times fillers. No topic out of bounds. No opinion left unsaid. An Institution for sports talk in information. This is a sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu Mitch Albom at Bob Riot marked Lube The New York Daily News and MLB DOT COM. I'm Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe and Espn how Mitch. Albom OF THE DETROIT. Free Press and we welcome you to this edition of the sports reporters. Podcast the PODCAST. Incarnation of the long running Sunday morning TV. Show and boy. We've done a lot of shows together guys On television on Sunday mornings and hundreds of shows here now on the podcast but this has got to be the first one where we're talking about seasons being canceled events being run literally like ghost towns with just to players involved and all because of a global pandemic that just a few weeks or a month or so ago wasn't even figuring into the conversation of sports then began to creep into it with some cancellations of things far away like in Italy. And we're still talking about. Wow did you see an? It'll either going to have games without fans and and then what seemed to be a slamming of the foot on the accelerator pedal in the last forty eight hours. We have seen Almost every pillar of major American sports affected by this to the point that the NBA season. Thanks to an infected. At least one known case of infected player on the Utah Jazz Rudy. Gobert has has suspended its entire season and told all the teams who have played against the jazz in recent Six Teams Mitch. Yeah to self quarantine and this is just the beginning of a lot of other ripples. Lots to unpack on this today but let's begin with the with the NBA. And what happened here? Talk about Adam. Silver's reaction the cancelling of the season Rudy Rudy bears Pretty Foolish behavior etc. There's a lot going on but the fact is the NBA. And isn't it ironic? Lebron James just a few days ago was saying I'm not playing games. They don't have fans there. He's not playing games at all. Now maybe we just be careful with wording. It's in suspension not cancellation major major difference. The implication is they intend to resume even if it's in July or August and so that's all. I'm saying it's not canceled. Its Yeah Bob I think listen. I'M NOT DOING ANY DOOMSDAY SCENARIO. But by the way we Lebron did walk himself back from smart he would`ve. It's a kind of turnover and he doesn't usually commit. But Mike what it showed was because the way he walked back with us. I wasn't even aware of that virus. It shows you how quickly people have had to become aware of this and how sleepy many of us were including somebody as well informed as the Bron James on. How severe this was as as as recently as a week ago. But no I absolutely Mitch and Matt Gaetz. Who Republican Congressman from Florida? Bonehead had a picture posted on. Twitter was some social media of him wearing a gas mask to mock the threat of the corona virus. Je Right before somebody in his district died and then it turned out that he had been exposed. not specific to the person at the CPAC average that nobody was taking this seriously enough. What silver did it? It's something we talk about all the time. If you don't get out in front of the narrative the narrative will run you over. We see it happening now with the President United States. Who originally were saying everything would be fine. Once the weather was warm that was one of his original statements about the corona virus and guys. Here's what I was thinking about today. One I don't believe the NBA season will resume until the playoffs begin. Because I think what D- like a fourteen to sixteen teams are pretty much locked in okay in spot in the West is kind of play a spot in the east. But here's here's my thing. Can you imagine if this had happened six weeks ago? Would they have played the Super Bowl in an empty stadium? That's a fair question to ask. Because I think Mitch and Bob. The I know fans game was scheduled to be tonight between I think the nets and the warriors at the center until everything that happened last night happened and again you talked about this in the open they played. I figured six teams in the last five teams in the last however many days so those teams and those players who have been exposed to rudy air. Okay and so the the this thing I keep looking at this thing and see how it is accelerated in the in just in the past week and guys you know what it reminds me of one of those brushfires in California quickly. Be seriously the quickly becomes a conflagration. The next shoe to drop has got to be the NCAA tournament. I would think that not just empty. You may not know I mean I mean cancel it. I mean cancellation. I would be very surprised if we're talking about on Monday morning. About the selection Sunday proceedings of Sunday night. I'll be surprised. I'll be somewhat pleasantly surprised if they actually think it can be done because you know what am I gonNa do my time next week but I but I don't see how you know talk about reactive. Reactive organisation not a proactive organization. They've got they've got circumstance here where one of their conferences as already Canceled its tournament. Other conferences are going to have it without fans. There's no complete coordination from the top does should be one uniform policy from the top. You GUYS NOT AGREE. Shouldn't have been acting in isolation mark and hurt and company should have been on top of this for all their members not just one but this is this is a case where the federal government had word organized and and clearly. We're seeing some of the effects of of the trump administration. Not just the president and the he's the least people's concerns to me he doesn't really do anything But the staff that he has assembled and the people at the heads of departments don't seem to be particularly prepared for all of this and what you would expect under a more organized. Better run federal government. Is it there would be a statement already issued by someone high ranking in the medical field. The what what. What's the what's the what's the position that they were right about the cigarettes on the side? You know general okay to say. Sporting events should not take place because they involve intimate human contact sweat a key players hugging one. Another lifting one. Another up they could cut one another remember when Magic Johnson was GonNA play in the NBA. All Star game What the panic was about that? He might sweat on somebody well. This is something that actually is caught by breathing. Close to somebody or or but you know you get something on your hands and then you rub your eyes and things like that so there should be a blanket statement about all sporting events and all contact sports about whether this is a safe thing to do in this particular period of time. You don't see that so what's happened. Bob Is what exactly what you pointed out minus the federal government giving a directive like that. You've got individual sports making individual decisions. This one says yes. This one says no fans this one says no season. It's crazy. People aren't doctors but mike the I don't know if you've felt the same way when I started hearing about what we're going to play the game without fans in the stands and I thought well okay that takes care of the mass group of fans. What about the fifty seventy two staff of people in team trainers and all the rest? What about that? That's a group? And they're they're sweating on one another. Why are people concerned about the athletes as much as they may be asymmetric and by the way by the way we're going to go down the rabbit hole of politics here? The president of the United States can do a lot and should have done a lot more than this including last night cutting off flights from Europe while we found out today that somebody on a jetblue flight from JFK to West Palm Beach. Were having already known that. He was carrying the virus. And I'm thinking Oh good. So what is solution now to cut off flights from JFK? The friend of mine said this morning. Can we fly to Europe to get to get the hell out of here? Okay but Mitch. Joe Bear was almost going to play last night into play and and how many players who have been exposed over you know and you know God forbid any players have been exposed okay. It's not logical to believe that he's the only guy in the NBA. Of course who is positive for this but but thank the Lord. Somebody had the foresight to test him. Four Kobe nineteen last night or he was. He was feeling well enough to go out and play this basketball game. I'm sure you saw the clip of of Chris. Paul walking over towards the budget. What's wrong with Rudy? Okay and well. We now know what's wrong with Rudy and the thunder. I guess I forget. How long do they have to stay there or the jazz? How long do they have to stay in the arena wearing masks and gloves before they were released last night? This thing. This thing says doctor says this thing's going to get worse before it gets better. I mean I was out this morning. I shook his hand. I'm thinking what the hell was. I thinking just hard reflects to curb. He's the one that I can't cope with. Frankly is to touch the face thing I mean you know I mean we never thought about it but my God I mean we we touch multi times an hour. Most PEOPLE DO I. I know I sure do and I just can't get that went through my head at all at all. No I'm going to say I'm going to say something that where I believe this one second first a word from our friends at Geiko okay. This is a thirty second commercial. And I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you but please stay with me in just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. This company has been offering great rates and great service for over seventy five years. Anytime you need help. You can speak to one of their trained specialists. Twenty four seven the company is Geico go to GEICO DOT COM today. Sorry for all the numbers in five four. Three two one. I'm out of time okay. This is not alarmist in any way I believe that we will get through this and we might even have one of those national moments of. Hey you know look at how we ultimately pulled together This can be the best of us all that kind of stuff. That's my hope but I'm going to say this right now. I believe that within where we mid-march by the time we're doing a podcast at the end of the month. No sporting events will be being played. I mean they're all going to be. They're all going to be. The Olympics are never going to happen. There's just no way on earth that people are going to be. You couldn't if if they were in America in next month. That couldn't happen because we have a travel ban and they'll be travel bans from other countries. So they're not going to let people. We're not GONNA have an Italian team in the Olympics. They're not going to have an Iranian team in the Olympics. You can start ticking. Off The country's Andrew Mirko seventy percent of her country's going to be affected so I guess there's not going to be a German team so there's no way the Olympics is GonNa take place. I don't believe baseball season will take place. I think within you. You've seen what's happened in forty eight hours from how he went from point. A to a point Z. I think the next forty eight hours in the next forty eight or just going to exacerbate America's to free a country to control this on our own. I been to China multiple times and and the thing I remember thinking about the most that really stunned me about their existence and one had Chinese guide with me. I was on a book tour stuff so I I had a lot of people and they said when we want to do something we want to build something we want to have something project we out galvanize a hundred thousand people overnight and we bring them because we can tell people where to go and what to do whenever and that's how they built hospitals in a week over there. We can't do that here. We can't just move people around or wall off people or the rest that they that they can in China and the way we are freedom of movement are are two sense of freedom is the worst kind of thing in terms of a spread for something like this. I honestly believe by the end of the month. All sporting events of all kind will will will be postponed as you said Bob. Thank you for correcting me. Not cancelled forever but postponed and then top. And then we're we're talking sports but the same everything that we're saying has got to be true for entertainment immovable. Obviously got to be. I mean talk about close proximity you know so absolutely our whole life this is. I dislike living in a bad movie. Just is a fictional scenario. You know that just none of us could ever have imagined that you but we're here and it's going to accelerate and I think you're right about a cessation of sporting events in this country but it's also going to be Entertainment as well so I know one thing. We've got about three thousand books in this house. Thank God I'm i. I don't know what other people are going to do for their entertainment. But you know Bob and Elaine. We amuse ourselves. Thank God but it's still an unimagined scenario. The next you know tennis now is talking about a six week hiatus but I know I said this to you guys the other day. I know that the French Open and the clay court season are extremely in peril now and they're hopeful that somehow this thing is you don't want to say controller contained or whatever in time to save their grass court season which really doesn't start up again into a start up until June and somehow save Wimbledon and when I look at the baseball season right now because that's the next shoe to fall. We're going to see how they're going to handle spring training. The Mariners can't play home games out there because Washington has been one of the epicenters of this thing. Okay the California's GonNa follow suit for Mass Gatherings. I'm waiting for Andrew Cuomo to announce the same thing about New York and I don't know here's what I don't know and maybe you guys have an opinion on this. Do they just postponed the start of it now to buy themselves some time and say you know what we're going to have one hundred fifty four games. Whatever picking on one hundred forty game season okay and then see how thin wh- with the option of moving it up depending on the medical situation on the ground in the United States of America and but I'll go back to what I said at least silver acted and he probably could acted a couple of days sooner? But that's that doesn't matter. He took decisive action last night. And Mitch and Bob looked a lot more decisive than the federal government on this thing to do you. Only how simple it can be Mike. He issued an edict suspended. And that's it and to do the same thing and it's just it'll take five minutes and that's it we're acting as if own heaven forbid how are we going to go on without life If we don't have baseball games well first of all. We've all lived through strikes whereby voluntary actions of Of either the players or the owners there was no baseball. There was no basketball or there was no hockey. There was no football so obviously the world can go on without it. I have no doubt that these commissioner whether they want to or not are going to have to suspend their seasons of every single sport. How because Mike and Bob it becomes a comparative thing. If hockey does it how does basketball? Not Do it a basketball does it. How does the same with College Mitch? It's the same with colleges. You Know Bob Bob Semi Alma Mater. Officially going to online classes on and this basically sending kids home. Well one of the one of the reasons they did that which is actually fortuitous. Is this is the time of year that everybody goes on spring break? Spring break is frequently to places where a lot of people are in close proximity with one another many of them international and then everybody comes back to college bringing back. Whatever they got from the. You know the beer that they shared with whoever was so it makes sense for them to basically say okay. Spring break is is is is end of semester. Everybody go online. And it's remarkable that we live in a world right now where we can function in terms of sort of a lot of work anyhow a lot of college not all not stuff that you need to be present for but a lot of office spaces and and types of can function remotely you know. Imagine if this happened before the computer you know in the now everybody can't go in. There is no learning there is no work there is no everything comes to a grinding halt. So we're fortunate to have the digital set up and everybody's GonNa become much familiar with living that way for the next few months. Did you see the video? Just a brief aside of Mark Cuban game getting the word I saw him be interviewed by Manelli Right. How does actual video of of answering the phone and getting in his mouth opening Incredibly wide you know with no. I don't believe what I just heard kind of thing the actual real time vim him getting word directly that the season is suspended anyway. I like his response. However which about his one of his first thoughts about the workers you know the the the little people who are going to be hurt by this and I'll guide you know the the tentacles are enormous. Admit you but so. That's another. That's another interesting issue. But you mentioned the you know we've all lived through the strikes yeah. We have a in in various sports. We've all lived through baseball baseball football basketball hockey. All of them have gone out and so important another in our recent lifetime but this would be cold. Turkey sports cold. Turkey sports everything. And that's we've never we? We have not lived through that. No one alive in America has lived through that before we go on. I WANNA ask about another video so yesterday that was Kinda Great. I want to remind you that we have a great new sponsor in Mac Weldon. 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Did anybody see the footage of Jergen Klopp the Liverpool where they call managers or coaches always? Forget coming out of the tunnel for the team's game and people are leaning over one Kim to slap them a high five and he said. Put Your hands away. He snapped at these. People are not reading the paper. You're not on social media not watching television. When you look at Mitch made a very good point and I know everybody is well intentioned with the empty arena games. I remember there was one time when CNN guys. Remember that when there was a measles outbreak at the school. And they play. I think they played a tournament game or either League tournament game or an Ncaa Tournament game With nobody in the stands. And and what it. You can't contain this with you know just players and coaches and staff and I I don't know how many people then would have to be Arena workers okay so we are now having this conversation and again. We're talking about sports because this is sports supporters. You know we're we're trying to deal with it. In the context of the the larger issues. We are now having this conversation on Thursday. Morning Okay the. Ncaa has a lot of thinking to do. I said the next shoe to fall baseball. Not really this tournament is starting okay. And it is a billion dollar business guys. It's literally a one month billion dollar business okay. And they've got to make a determination whether they're actually going to go forward with this plan for empty arenas or Bob's right or are they going to call this thing off before it even gets started and I say. Let let let. Let'S DO THIS SCENARIO. Mike. Let's do what you just said. Okay. There's two ways to go in this fork in the road. All right one. Is they play these games in empty arenas offer that fork one player their version of Rudy. Jubeir he gets sick and now they look like Total Idiots. Fourteen Manager Mitch or or assistant coach. Pick a big driver. The bus driver right He. Somebody is sick and then every team that played against them is quarantined and is stuck. Where whatever city there in And they can't go back. These are college age. Kids their parents are going to scream bloody murder there is no way in my opinion that the NCAA tournament starts. There's no way they play that I'm telling you by the time. We do sports reporters on Monday if they have not cancelled the NCAA tournament. And that's a cancel. Bob Not assist because you're not gonNA come back with next year. We'll have whatever whatever guys are on the team next year. They'll get to play you know they're going to graduate. They're going to move on and it's just not going to be one this year and this is we have to accept this. Okay we're going through a certain circuits of thank God. This is not a deadly plague for most people that this is a case of. You know you'RE GONNA get it. You're going to go through it. You're going to be quarantined. It's going to be a pain in the ass but you will recover except a hopefully no more than two or three percent of our population which is a huge huge thing. And if we wanted to talk generalities I would be talking right now about how we're GONNA protect our elderly population. Everybody keeps talking about a basketball team schools and all the rest of the people were at risk from dying are people who are eighty and over or people who have. How are we protecting them? How are we protecting the nursing homes? These are the places where we should be putting all of our attention because if they catch it. It's not a pain in the ass to be quarantine. It's not Tom. Hanks getting stuck in Australia. It's death but separate from all that and just staying on sports because that's what we're doing here there's just no way that they can play the NCAA tournament it's th they will look they will look culpable in Infecting people as soon as one player gets it and with sixty four sixty six teams. There is no way odds. Wise that one of them is not one player. On one of those teams. You multiply each team by fifteen guys. Eighteen guys and then a staff of five or six coaches and then two or three trainers and the bus driver T. manager and all the rest. There's just the odds are that somebody's GonNa have it and as soon as you do. Look at how people are feeling about about Rudy. Show bear another analyzing every action. He did every stupid thing that he did. Touching reporters microphones all the restaurant. Which will talk about in a second. But it's almost as if like you're blaming him for getting it and it wasn't his fault that he got it and the same thing's going to happen with the NCAA. A one member of a team gets this and it starts to spread. They cannot take that culpability. They will postpone or cancel this tournament. And here's the thing that I mean. I have to living elderly parents. I mean just in response to what you just said. My Mom's ninety two. My pops is ninety six and my mom's said to me the other day. I'm glad we made the decision to stay at home and not go to a nursing home and and the you know they're they don't get around a lot anymore but they're being extremely vigilant and might pop still goes to the store with the woman who takes care of them and pop the first move when you get. Don't touch anything we get home. Wash your hands but Mitch. It's again go back to what we were talking about before. It's not logical that Rudy. Gobert is the only one. It's just not logical. It's just simply not logical and it's it's not logical to think that this is not a baseball player who's GonNa be identified as patient zero and we made by the way guys. We may not know where the positive tests are coming from. I doubt very much that we will. I think if there's more would just show that there was a positive test on this team or that team or the other team but but the idea removing people from that physical proximity to each other in the stands and that's going to keep everybody safe despite the even more close proximity of two guys guarding each other in a basketball game and Mitchell one hundred percent right when when it comes out that somebody and again I'm not gonNA mention a schools on this team. Has it or that team has it. Then then absolutely people are going to raise a hand and say what were you thinking that emptying the Rina's was going to somehow solve this problem. Any of that cannot see as job is to protect its players first and foremost not it's fans and and you know these are the actual people who are governed by the NCAA. The fans are not and so they will look totally and look. We all know it wouldn't be out of the realm of imagination for them to be boneheaded they've made boneheaded decisions one after the other. Mark Emerton all the rest of them on other matters but I mean this is their charge. First and foremost is to is to protect and look out for the players who play. Collegiate Sports. Well the thing to do for players who play for collegiate sports to keep them from potential infection. We've had things like I work for radio. Radio Show we had an event that was going to have about thirty people. They cancel this too many people. That's thirty people. There's that many people in any given basketball game and more than that any given baseball game and and more than that many other sports the all sports are going to come to a cessation of for the time by the way here's the other thing at least. Nba Players had access to the tests. You know I said to. Somebody said on social media this morning then. The new variation of the old wine is the tests are in the mail. Okay because we keep hearing that the college kids they don't all have access to test so thank again. There's things that we have to keep touching on here. Thank God job Rudy. Got tested okay because not everybody has access to the tests right now and so that just exacerbates this problem with uncertainty as we move up on the start. This is a different kind of March madness. This guy's that's for sure by the way by the way something just came up that the president of Brazil Bolsonaro is being monitored and tested for the corona virus. Guess show he had dinner with last Saturday night. I can't imagine president the United States. You know the the irony of all this for him because he's the world's most notorious Germophobic but yeah good luck anyway. No Oh it just goes on and on going you know. I'm I'm going to the ballpark down here. Okay I still like going to the ballpark. In spring training I had a very funny conversation. I went over to write a column about the mets who were down in West Palm the other day and Bob Gary is standing outside the mets clubhouse. Because you know you're not supposed to even you're not allowed into the you know you in there before games anymore and I was saying to him and I was only half joking shouting at him. I said Gary I have a couple of questions but look I'm standing six feet away and I said you know you guys are probably always wished that we would be at least six feet away and even further away. But that's the that's the new normal all of a sudden but again. I gotta be six feet away from a ballpark personnel. But people are sitting right next to each other behind i. It's a little counterintuitive. Well Mike You Bring up an interesting point within the sports world and I think you know it's good that we're having this on all things sports on it. There's enough people on on the the the three cable network guiding you know the country in politics. They don't need us to do that. But how about from a media point of view? It is now in my opinion irresponsible and almost immoral four newspapers or television stations to be sending reporters out to go cover events where there are large groups of people. I mean you know we always have this thing while the news. You GotTa do the news. We're not soldiers. You know we're not like you gotta do your job and give your life for your country If if if by sending people to go now you know you can't go into a locker room anymore. They've closed them all right but by going even press boxes. Press boxes are incubators and the way people sit real close to one another. You mentioned the Super Bowl. Can you imagine forget about the players in the one hundred thousand people in in the arena? But what about the press box you and I have sat and all three of us have sat in those breast boxes? You're a quarter inch from the guy next to you. Believe me whenever he has you'll have by the end of the Super Bowl because you just have to be that close to one another so is responsible for news organizations to to send reporters to cover sporting events. Okay we're not talking about covering wars covering politics or things which you know. People who were in. That are kind of Either braver than most. But these are sporting events. Is it responsible anymore for for news organizations to send the reporters were there are crowds question to both and I heard yesterday that Bitch yesterday that the Washington Post has basically put a ban on what it describes as non essential? Travel Okay so who's GonNa look at covering the nationals? As essential travel these days. And when you talk about the superbowl forget about the press box for a second. How about Media Day? No seriously how about media day and how many of us over the years. It's super bowls have gotten on those buses. Take us to wherever media day and as we file into them or file into the stadium. All you hear is somebody always somebody. GonNa move like we're being herded into this. There's simply no way to keep yourself protected unless you stay home. I mean that's the reality of this situation. I honestly as Taylor Luca Di said we want to still keep going out to dinner all. I'm listening to all this. All this could commonsense and thought. I'm not conspiratorial us. I'm not a I'm not a cynic. I'm a skeptic we have to. You can't be a journalist of any stripe of without having a a you know a skepticism as opposed to cynicism. There's only one answer why there's been a hesitancy in my mind that makes any sense at all on the part of the NCAA to cancel this tournament. And that is M. O. N. E. Y. If they think they can have it when and and put on this television show In close studios and keep fulfil their that their Their obligation in your partnership with the networks. Cbs and Turner and et Cetera. Other than that everything that we you're saying mix such eminent. Common Sense is supposed to be educators at the top of this you know the. Ncaa is run by. Ca is a union of a school presidents and administrators. Hope that's the only answer right answer. No and you touched. Bob Bob Bob. Touch on something. Mitch I mean. Is there a possibility that we might not see the? Nba Playoffs begin until when they usually end you know. Is it possible that they may push this thing back all the way until June because they will? Do everything possible you know and keeping in mind. The safety of their players to get those playoffs played for the same reason that Bob just set M. O. N. E. Y. tickets logical. I think that's where they're heading. That's why this is. They made it clear. This is a suspension and make that very very important well-chosen words and word it's a suspension. They resume zoo. They can or not but they their intention and hope is to resume at some point and that clearly means we're going to have basketball in July and August. The answer to that is the answer really that everybody is searching for and the thing that no one will be able to give them and that is how long does it take for something like this to run through right right. You don't know there's there's just no you can't go back and look at Oh you know the epidemic of Nineteen ninety-seven where there's no recent example of this SARS and bird flu and stuff I it was. It just never rose to this type of level and wasn't as contagious in this particular way respectable. So you don't know I've read. I've searched every article that I can search. You know looking for that thing. In the closest I've found with someone said that it was kind of a two-month they were predicting kind of a two month long period to run it through but I can't believe that that's based on any kind of science. We if as Myrtle predicted sixty or seventy percent of a country can get it. I have no idea why first of all a leader of a free country would make that statement even if you knew it to be true because talk about dooming everybody's attitude you know and mental health but if that were true in the United States you you. You'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING. This year you forget about the playoffs. The year will be cancelled if it's that type of thing of sixty to seventy percent of the country has to go through it before it kind of works its way out of the system and what we don't know is is what's on the other like if you have this once. Does that make you immune to getting it again? No one seems to be definitive on that and so if you can relapse and catch it again. Then obviously the outpoint on this thing is way further out until they develop a vaccine out his year from now we need. We need to talk about that because as we were having this conversation. I look back on the flu. 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Swagger kronos workforce innovation that works remember. That flu pandemic started in two thousand and nine lasted into two thousand and ten. And it's I'm reading this now. It's estimated that eleven to twenty one percent of the then global population Or around seven hundred million to four billion people contracted the illness more absolute than okay with an and it really didn't end Mitch until they did come up with a vaccine the next year and I believe I think my stats are right. That they found out that that that even that vaccine was helpful in like fifty six percent of it so it's extremely competent is was nuts when one of the early days of this trump said we could have a BAC seen within days. And I'm thinking what the hell are you talking about? We talking about? It's going to take a year at least and you know I was talking about one of my oldest son. Christopher the other day and he said one company that a friend of his works. That's what they're going to. They're going to suspend going to the office until April twenty-seventh and Chris Sit. How did they pick that date? What wha-what Algorithm did they use to come up with that date and then what happens on April twenty-seventh and so Mitt you're right. It's an unknowable thing. And but what we're going to eventually need to not stop the hysteria. Okay but to calm. People down is is even the initial word that there is a viable vaccine. That's at least in the shoot a gentleman. Here's something that enters into this conversation. Just take it for what it's worth. I'm quoting China. Suspended its basketball. League on February first is to country began to clamp down on the world's largest Cobra virus outbreak as the number of cases has decreased. The League has made tentative plans to resume play next month. The Chinese Basketball Association sent its teams a memo calling virus quote basically stable unquote and saying that the league could begin playing as early as April second according to slant sided version acquired but ESPN. I'm just saying that China period but I'm GonNa tell you again having been to China and see how they operate. They actually are. Set up better to control something like this than we are. They can wall off any city. They want they can just tell people you're not going anywhere they can. There's no interest in in freedom or civil rights or anything like that. They move people around where they want to move people around and if they need medical facilities just take one hundred thousand workers from over here and put them over there and say you worked twenty four hours a day until we have a hospital setup. We don't do that here and so I believe that our run through this will be longer than China's run through it even though it originated over there You know remember when most of it was kept to a very particular Wuhan Province area there. And that's where a lot of the numbers came from that we saw Now Again Bob. You're reading something that came out of China. Another thing that I learned from being over there while there is much to admire you. Don't pay any attention to anything. The government says over there. He'll say anything they want. They'll tell you anything they want. There is no buddy holding their feet to the fire. They don't have a free press and so for all we know this whole this whole image that they're putting out to to the world about how you know we've got everything under control already and now you're the one suffering and we're not gonNa let you in from there could be all bull and and we won't know and it really. It's not our concern. Our concern is this country and I think these kinds of move cancelling these tournaments or postponing the whatever word you WANNA use postponing large gatherings of people postponing. Its not about G. Is it time to do that yet? See this is where I think. People are getting confused. It's not about G. Hasn't gotten that bad that we need to do it. It needs to be done so it doesn't get that bad. They have the equation reversed. It's not we wait until things reach a certain point and then we cancel these things that you cancel them now so they don't get to that point and and if people had thought more like that a month ago we wouldn't have the number of cases that we have here right now now. That still doesn't mean that it doesn't spread and Mike. Your point about waiting till a vaccine is accurate but we gotta recognize that a vaccine is probably a year away at least one. That's really reliable. So if that's chested. Yeah that's been tested tested. That does it goes through all the you know the the rigmarole and so That's a year now where we're going to suspend all the gathering type life for year. I don't know maybe we're going to have to we. Will we will if it continues to be a threat but again I reiterate that point. These sports leagues should be looking at this. As if we do this now. We won't have to do it later if we wait until well push us to the breaking point. You're going to have a much longer tail on this thing so if I were them and again if there's a federal government guy came out and said all gatherings over certain sizes should be canceled. That's our policy. That's a recommendation. Now you've given every sports team cover to say hey we have to do it or following the government guidelines. You don't have to worry about being the first last. You have worry about how you explain it to the TV networks. Who I'm sure they're having these discussions in the you. You can't dare cancel this. We'RE GONNA lose our money BUBBA BUBBA. You take it out of their hands and you say that was a government edict. That hasn't happened He. That's what I heard from one baseball guy. Yesterday we are now waiting to take our guidance that that we will just blindly. Follow it but they're waiting for the government to take the lead the precedent for that. Of course Mike is the World War. Two Roosevelt famous green light letter. Yeah I mean it was different circumstance. Obviously it wasn't about pandemic it was about war But the fact is that that was a precedent and the Roosevelt gave the green light To baseball to continue when there was some agitating obviously for it. Not to be continuing guys. One more thing on what I was pointing out earlier. The last line of the story that I am quoting for less line is as follows. Experts have said that it's possible the virus could grow again once China's economic economy resumes activity. I'll repeat that could grow again once. China's economy resumes activity. So you know that. That's a real real. Yeah but on this whole thing and I want to pose a question to both of you guys Before I do because it won't get too deep into it a message from our good friends at Ziprecruiter. Hey finding the right. Employees is key to the success of Your Business. That's a no brainer. For finding the right candidates that can be challenging. There's one place you can go. Were hiring simple fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. That place is ziprecruiter dot com slash reporters ziprecruiter. Send your job to over one. Hundred of the Web's leading job sites but they don't stop there. With their powerful matching technology ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite them to apply to your job. You can even add screening questions to your job listing so you can filter candidates and focus on the best ones. 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Honestly it was already shaken up by the craziness of the trump administration than the craziness of the election and all the bipartisanship That that that doesn't exist in the the the people hating on one another now. Everybody's distrusting one another and just want to touch one another. There'll be no hugging. There'd be no kissing. We're becoming a very angry and scared society. But let's talk about this in the sports landscape okay. Let's say there's no NCA tournament this year and let's say it just becomes impractical to have the NBA playoffs in other words. They have to wait so long to get back that you know the players are out there. They're off they're out of shape. They're not practicing. They don't feel to be a real reflection of what's going on you know. Are they really GonNa play play offs in August and then have to come back and start an NBA season October? Or they just going to say this year they won't be one. What would be the ramifications of that for sports? What would I mean? How bad would that all be? Who would who would suffer the most from not getting that opera? I boy we could speculate to a fairly well on that. But we're speculating about a speculation. Okay speculation is that they're that they're gonNA play the playoffs in the summer but we don't know that and so if this happens because that happened. Yeah anything could happen and they would just push back the start of the next season and all. I know all I know. Is that when we reconvene on Monday? We may be talking about a series of Evergreen subjects or if spring training is still going on. We're going to give you a whole lot of conversation about spring training and police. I hope this sound to Mirth. Four and facetious very sobering discussion. But any event that we Had have total cessation and and the answer. The question what we're going to be the full ramifications I've long joked about I would like to start over with everything you know. Started all over with new boy. Would I like to start college sports all over with everything for what? I like to start baseball over with everything. you know there'd be great? We could start all over and and get it right because because they're all going off the rails in college. Sports is big time college. Sports is completely and utterly out of makes no sense if you step back and take a deep breath the way we've allowed it than we've all but of course that's that's not going to happen but that's what I would like to happen. One thing. I think we can be sure of even if we were doing this. Podcast daily. There'd be a whole new set of developments by tomorrow morning certainly Waiting until Monday We'll have a whole lot more to talk about then but I I would like to end by just encouraging everybody who's listening to us to try to keep it a chin up and a positive attitude. This is the the the numbers on this thing are still a little bit worse than the flu when it comes to When it comes to mortality but in a very specific group and they say when you start getting the real numbers in that mortality rate will actually go down closer to the less than one percent is with the flu and if all if some were to just say to you you know man. The flu is going around. Everybody's getting the flu somehow. That would wouldn't be as scary as Oh my God. I could get covert nineteen or CORONA VIRUS. Foot that in essence is what it is. I'm just courage and people not to go crazy and not to turn on their neighbors and and and and treat everybody like the enemy you know. This is the time when we come together and try to do so until we see on Monday On behalf of we're we're suspending the Parting shots here. Because we've said everything there is to say why do a parting shot on it But on behalf of Mike Lupaka am Brian. This is Mitch. Albom wishing you a good weekend. We'll see ya.

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 285 - Drew Brees Comments Examined. Questions Remain About the NBA's Plan to Resume Play

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 285 - Drew Brees Comments Examined. Questions Remain About the NBA's Plan to Resume Play

"Award Winning Journalists New York Times fillers don't. Know opinion left unsaid. An Institution for sports talk in information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Mike. Lupica Mitch Albom at Bob Ryan remark. We are losing MLB DOT com. I'm Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe and ESPN. Mitch, Albom of the Detroit Free, press, and welcome to the sports reporters podcast the podcast incarnation of long-running TV show on Sunday mornings. We are now in podcast world, on Mondays and Thursdays and we said last Monday. We'll see on Thursday. You know a lot lot happens in between and a lot has happened. In a moment, or a few moments we'll get to the NBA. Proposed plan to get back out on the court. Pretty interesting one that leaves out a number of teams that did not make the playoffs. Twenty two teams would be involved, and we'll get into all the details on that, but what is making news? Right at this moment as we're speaking is a quarterback drew brees for the saints. And in an interview where he was talking to Yahu Finance, all places I'm not sure why. He made a comment about not wanting to disrespect the flag ever. in light of what's going on with George Floyd and whatever everybody else's dealing with this has gotten drew brees probably more blowback in in less than twenty four hours then he's had in his entire career teammates. Saying you that hurt or you don't understand or I'M NOT GONNA. Forgive you or people calling him racist. He issued an apology this morning of very very long and detailed may culpa apology, saying that he was insensitive, and and and then clearly stating imprint what he does believe, but how much damage has been done to drew brees, who has to get back relatively soon into the New Orleans locker, room and quarterback that team plenty of damage has been done. And I really think his original comment. It kind of sounded to me like an old white owner in the national football league, which is and saying that this is disrespectful to the flag. We've had this conversation. Many times is a head fake on this conversation. Nobody's disrespecting the flag or being less of American by doing something as American as dissenting and I hope all those guys are looking at what's happening in America right now and compare that to Colin Kaepernick taking me. But what he did yesterday sounded to me like he wanted to be all things to all people, and this isn't about what a good guy he is, and how much charitable good he's done and how much he's done for the city of New Orleans. That's a side issue. It's a side. Issue is not Lance Armstrong, but it's a side issue like live strong okay. But Mitch Him Bob. He thought that okay. It's a beautiful apology. Today we have to accept people at their word. Okay, but but he thought those things, and he bought into this notion that somehow if you took a need during the national anthem, you were somehow being less of an American, and you know we've all been reading social media over the last. Twenty four hours since he said what he said, and I saw some great things from Wendell, Pierce, the actor about his ninety five year old father, okay, and I always talk about my ninety six year old father, who's who's led a great American life, but doesn't think the descend in this country will honorable said is against the law, and my dad by pumps never thought that that capture nick was was insulting, the flag or his service during World War Two. The thing that's comes to like most graphically in this to me is the misunderstanding. When, while identifying the anthem, specifically with the military and with the flag, of course, the anthem was in fact, didn't come the end up donating thirty one, but it was written by Francis Scott Key, as he watched battle of Fort mckenry, eighteen fourteen. Okay fine, a so all stemmed from militarism. If you will, but the point is that a by wrapping it around the flag, and then identifying well, my grandfather fought in world, war two but Bob Papa, and and and and my family's got military ties in on it and completely ignorant of the issue that the his African American teammates and others are happy to point out with plenty of African Americans fought in World War Two. And then came home to. Alive, that were a window, peer said about his his grandma, vastly different than those of their white brethren, including in something. Guys I did not know until this latest Brewhaha. was that and I am just going to say what they're saying and I have no proof either way that the the GI bill was denied. Either officially or unofficially to African Americans in the GI bill, which has been cited a trillion time rating has wanted a great benefit to. Fill. Our governments ever done for its people. And, they wing all these service people to go back and and get a degree after the war. And be totally ignorant and dismissive. I will say dismissive. I think ignorant of that circumstance You know that that offended his a is apple so. Let's examine this a little bit deeper in terms of when he said what he said, so he was in this interview. I don't know why with Yahoo Finance. And he said his initial words and the ones that have just been quoted in. That's it and there's much more to it than this. He said I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country. Let me just tell you what I see or what I feel when the national anthem is played, and when I look at the flag of the United States. I envisioned my two grandfathers who fought for this country during World War, two one in the army, one of the marine. Corps, both risking their lives every time I stand with my hand over my heart, looking at that flag and singing the national anthem. That's what I think about, and in many cases that brings me to tears thinking about all that's been sacrificed, not just those in the military, but for that matter those throughout the civil rights movements of the sixties, and all that has been endorsed by. By so many people up to this point and everything right with our country right now. No, it is not. We still have a long way to go but I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is is shows unity. It shows that we all in this together we can all do better and that we were all part of the solution. It's a lot longer than the one statement. That's getting quoted then later in the day. He spoke to ESPN I. THINK HE Yeah. He texted them and reiterated his point. And he said he also respects his teams for the fight for racial equality and justice. Here's what he said to ESPN I. Believe we should all stand for the national anthem, respect our country, and all those who sacrifice so much for our freedoms that includes all those who marched for women's suffrage in the twenties, and all those march for the civil rights movement and continue to March for racial equality. All of us everyone represent that flag. Same Way respect all the citizens of the country, no matter the race color religion, and I would ask anyone who was a problem with what I said to look at the way I live my life. Do I come across as someone who is not doing my absolute best to make this world a better place to bring justice, inequality, others and hope and opportunity in those who don't have it. That's what I meant by actions speak louder than words. He was very very clear yesterday very very clear about what he was saying because he said it twice. This wasn't just got caught in a you know I happen to get. By this morning he issued a may culpa. That that is is twice as long as what I. Just read, please. Read I'll pay, but Mike you hear you breathing hard like. ASPIRIN! I'm reading it hard him. No, Mitch Snider. Okay, but it needs to be heard in that. You need to hear everything that. He said he didn't back down on that and yet by this morning. He's issued this long thing. This is this is. Indicative of of where we are right now and the blowback that exists in in in this country when you say anything along those lines and I think he felt it and all of a sudden he realized. That he went on and on about yesterday he needs to go on and on about today, and thus the very very long apology and a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, like a nine point statement of where he stands with the black community, etc, etcetera and basically not. Not, really taking back everything that he said, but basically offering a whole other thing now will this be enough? This is my question to you. Read all that will this long long apology to everybody? The city of New Orleans the Black Community Nfl community everything, and all these statements about standing with the black community will that? Take care of the damage or is up to his teammates. That they're to Jordan. He's now. That's the judge. That was the opening, so that was a statement that Bob. It's more than his teammates, says he? He got flogged in the Public Square. He got flogged in the public, Media Square and by the way I. I completely understand his apology. It's it's actually quite elegant eloquent and I think it comes from the heart, but Mitch. We're all columnists here. Okay, so. The lead to this for every word that he has written or spoken since the re, the lead was disrespecting the flag. It's a false argument. Okay, it would be like if we let column by saying. The Sky is blue and then spent the rest of the column explaining away. That essential point they were disrespecting the flag. No, they weren't I. I understand the people who think that way. They're wrong and you guys have heard me say this before. Descent is American. It is a right. Honorable Peaceful. Dissent is American as any other right. We have even though it's sometimes it doesn't work out that way, so do I think he's going to get over? Yeah? I was thinking yesterday Mitch. It's lucky he hadn't already. He retired and taking that job with NBC it would have been very interesting to see what would happen to him if he had said that as an NBC employees doing Sunday night, football in some sort of capacity. And I'll guarantee you. He'll never say anything like it again or tweet anything like it again or instant anything like it again, but I'll go back to this. It started with same argument. We had a lot of discussions about this. And you know, and we had a lot of valid interesting discussions Mitch usage we all talked about. Doing it in the workplace, okay, and how employers had a right to you. I think they want to be pissed off about it, okay. But it's not. Showing disrespect for the flag for the service for the military for his family members for my dad for anybody, and once you start with that argument. Yeah, you know what you have to do. You have to spend twenty four hours cleaning up the mess that you made with the original statement. You made I thought you were going to say twenty four years because it may be closer to that and. We have to also acknowledge the way the world works right now and social media and all the rest. If he had said this statement a month ago in an interview with Yahoo Finance, nobody would be You know they've just been. There will be people who disobeyed. Yet, but what because of the timing of this is where drew brees made his biggest mistake in in my book. I believe in this country and I believe in the First Amendment and I believe in everybody having the right to have their opinion, even if not WanNa march in skokie. Okay, but so he absolutely has the right to his opinion. When people start trashing new so badly, even speaking, there is a danger in that, too. You know you have to listen to other people even if they don't you don't agree with them just to just. Just to sorta understand lay of the land, and if we're going to become a country that just shuts everybody up the minute they speak because of fear of losing their job or employment or reputation or endorsements, or whatever the case May. We're not really going to understand what's going. What's going on in people's minds? There's a famous expression you haven't converted someone just cost. You've silence them and we are getting to a point in America on lots of issues where you just cannot speak at all at a certain time and so I. Don't I, don't. I don't. Dislike the fact that I heard what he had to say. Even if I don't agree with it, because okay, that's how drew brees field, but we all have to admit if he said this a month ago. If you said it six months from now, it might not have the. Significant she was. To have an awareness of? It exactly and that's what goes on starting to make that point. He needs understand the timing of this I. Don't know what he was doing with the Yahoo Finance interview or whatever, but if they say to him well, What about Colin? Kaepernick of the flag over I think you say? At this time. I think we should just be focusing on the issues that are at hand in our country here right now. They'll be a time to have discussion about that later. Somehow deflected. If you don't want to be untrue to your beliefs because I respect the fact that this is true days believe okay. These are police. I'm not going to try to convert him. You know I may not agree with it, but I'm not gonna say how dare you think that you need to get go get brainwashed. So, but but you can't say at this time, and he has just learned that lesson and you've made a very interesting point might not just not just about like if he was with NBC. What about a year from now? Follow you around now, and you've always been and I I remember the first person I heard. Say This many years ago in this supporters is a person to be remembered by the single worst thing. Yes, nude. And drew. BREES has in his defense has lived an exemplary life as an NFL player in terms of caring for communities and being involved. And money does count when it's significant money. You know like five million dollars. He just pledged to covert nineteen victims in Louisiana which just happened two months ago when everybody was talking about that. That's the largest single gift I remember anybody in in sports, giving not one hundred thousand dollars to help not that there's anything wrong with a hundred thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars to help stadium workers. That's five million dollars this year to help the state of Louisiana, which is thirty, two percent, African American. American. You can't dismiss all the drew. BREES has been in his career because of bad timing and insensitive comments that he made in one interview, but right now it feels that way, if feels like the hell with drew brees I'm done with them and there were many there were many athletes who tweeted as much He's hopeless. He's lost. Forget him. That's a little too dismissive to as from a human point of view, but I understand the timing, and as you said, context and timing is everything. Just wonder. person. F with four years. We moved from the. Original list and and looking at what we where we are now. Could could not have understood. The folly of the original thought I know, yeah, it's his belief, but it's just the it's so. We all we all know how stupid it is to think that we quite the the flag. It has nothing to do with this was nothing not even close, and now it just baffles me how you can't get through your head, and here's the thing. Okay, but I do think he's going to get by this. It's going to be part of his resume now. Okay, it's it's. You know what that Yahoo Finance the. It sounded to me. You know this is a guy who's been American sports star for a long time, and whether he's actually believes it, or we've conditioned to him to believe it. He thinks the world's hanging on every word. Okay I told you guys want to Don Nelson. was an old friend. Bob's mind but better, Bob. The me became the Knicks coach. She said he called me up. You said any advice about New York and I said Yeah. Don't say one more thing then you have to. What do you mean? Mitch I swear to God I said I said Nellie. They'll. You'll finish your press gathering every day, and then something clever will occur to you that clever comment. Don't make that clever comment. Okay, because before you know it, they'll have your ass on either the front page of the back page of the Daily News. A little bit of that is what happened to breeze and is happening and Mitch. I remember I was one of the few people who defended Al Campinas when he got the death penalty. Okay, a guy who had done more for minorities and African Americans in baseball. Anybody okay a friend of Jackie Robinson and he said on nightline one night did he didn't think blacks thought? Blacks lacked the necessities and I see. Kids an Asian guy. I knew exactly what he meant. He got the death penalty. So Mitch you're right. I have always stood against the death penalty. They'll flogging in the public square for. The worst calm you ever made or the worst moment Lance Armstrong is different. He lied to our faces for years and years and years. This is quite different, so nobody's disputing what a good guy drew brees, and the good works that drew brees has done. It just saddens me to know that Heathrow in. The people who thought this when when the NFL was effectively ending Colin Kaepernick's career for what for taking a knee. Well. Another death penalty in a second here, let's I. 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Haven't heard from you in years now. That ended up itself kind of weird. If they haven't spoken in years, wise demarcus cousins sending him this text what they had they had a longtime rivalry went when when cousins played there, they won another. Yes, yes, so so he may have been bathing him I. Don't know, but he said so, what he wrote was. Hey, how are you thought you forgot about me? Having heard about you and yours? All lives matter every single one. For that he was let go. Cousins. His response and said it was expected. So it sounds like a lot. Let go fish this guy out and see what his reaction is. And then, and then he put it out to the world, and the guy was fired now. I understand that all lives matter saying in response to black lives, matter is considered by people who support the black lives matter movement to be almost put down, or almost a you know a dodge or escape from it, but the words themselves on paper. All lives matter. I don't think most people would find offensive in and of themselves yet. He is fired for this careers over after a whole lot, and he's not getting hired anywhere else, so he's been. This is what he does for a living. This is his job. He's TV broadcaster in sports and he's out, and and you know the teams that the company said we can't employ somebody like this now. Is that warrant? Should he be fired for? You've been fired now. I got the death penalty. You're right. It's a good transition from what we're just talking about. And again I know grant a little bit. I used to have my radio show from time to time when when our friend Paul Westphal coached the Kings I got to normal, and he's very nice. Guy Comes from silence at Long Island and but it's a little disingenuous him now to say he didn't understand. You know. that he doesn't understand what kind of trope all lives matter is, and what African Americans in this country here when they hear white guy say that okay, it's a little disingenuous, but is that a is that a career ender I mean. Is that a career ender? Would let me ask you guys. This is what he said worst. What drew brees said yesterday. Naive him to not to understand that that the conceivable ramifications of that response to that question is Mike. You're right. Pacino! Again, but not will get back to what you were saying about. The death penalty for one, but in my answer. No, we shouldn't have been fired. It should have been. slashed. Reprimanded should be given a chance to to clarify himself selfish, and it should be given a Mulligan. I don't think that this is. This is not this is a Mulligan worthy a gaffe. In in my opinion, that's fair. Eve Not if he honestly now now if he's doubling down and say. No then he is stupid I mean come on. You gotta be more aware than that Eli took when you live in an environment in the NBA which we've Mike. We've all covered. The NBA I covered it since nineteen sixty nine, and it is a league immersed in black culture, and and and been in the of everything. Don't know great America crecy. Sports then NBA in general terms. I'm not saying it's perfect God knows no perfect thing to do with race in America. But he should have been reprimanded. Ben In that world for longtime at Bob Bill. Bradley said to me once that NBA locker rooms. I, the greatest sociology classrooms ever invented, and you know what he was right and Michie was talking about his old knicks team okay. Clyde was from from Atlanta and and grew up in Philly, and why net B- Playing chess by mail? Yeah, built appeal. Bradley Bill Bradley Bradley. The banker son from Crystal City Missouri and and Captain Willis for Louisiana. So the point Bob is making is absolutely right and match. You know what grant has to kind of watch because I've been looking at some of these interviews now. He shouldn't become a professional martyr now. Okay I which I hadn't said what I said. Those aren't my beliefs. I'll do better, but if he's going to go on on a tour and a rehabilitation to I think he's going to hurt himself more. He's going to help them so I don't know if you know. Announces Aren't the same as as a super bowl winning quarterbacks I don't know how many chances he's going to get if he's resigned or. Start Your. Breeze, don't you agree that what breeze set was worse, so a grant said? Well, that's why I brought it up. I, said you know taking tha, but but neither of the words. What's interesting, though is neither of the words drew. Brees didn't say a racist word. Didn't use the N.. Word didn't insult anybody. grant napier didn't use any wrong words. If a nun said to you, all lives matter, you wouldn't accuse her of being somehow racist. But it's all about sister hortense. Sixth Grade Mitch I. Don't know I A. Contact timing. Timing and all context and we do. We do need to be aware in the media, although media doesn't control social media, but we do need to be wearing the media of when there is a a tidal wave in one direction. Are we washing away everything and it's like just as there has been a title in the direction that to me is more and more role of the media today to try to do something to keep some kind of perspective when it. It feels like there's only one side was story. What whichever way that side of that story? Coast? I'll give you another example along those lines. I've waited three days now to see if anyone has come forward to criticize Jr. Smith for kicking and it on video, a white man who he claimed broke a window in his car, and then calling him a white motherfucker have not seen a person criticize him. Is that because? He. He said that was a stupid thing to do the day later, but you know so well, so has so grand. Napier's has apologized. A drew brees is apologizing, but they, but but they're taking much bigger hits than Jr. Smith has all in context of the moment now to me. Someone needs to keep pointing that out what he did because you must react the same way to something that's racist and something. That's violent. Across the board or else you're being selective in your caring about people, which is exactly what we're criticizing the Minnesota police for doing and killing somebody, because theoretically because of the color of their skin. So all of this is a very good lesson in you know. Fairness and balance and timing and a perspective of the moment and awareness. You know some people get washed away. Pii and some people manage to hang on and skate and it's I. Guess if you're looking for fairness imbalance in it. That's never going to be the case. It's a lot of it is who just happens to be discovered or get people's attention at that particular time. Before we go to the NBA before we go to the NBA I. 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Three of US would agree is the incredibly white approached by a Caucasian to this matter. Okay, the source is Patrice Persia. Ron Of the Boston bruins. A native of Alon Lillard, Quebec thirty four years old now been America. With a is not an English speaker, now absorbed the American culture, and here's what he said yesterday, the murder of George Floyd and the protests that followed. It made me realize it by not speaking on. On the matter and not using my voice as a professional athlete, it's in fact allowing racism to fester and continue silence is not an option for me anymore I realized that I will never truly understand the fear pain and suffering. The black community has endured as a white man. I have always tried to live by respect and equality, but I also acknowledge my privileges is disappointed in myself that it took this long for me to truly open my eyes unquote. That's pretty well set. Thank you. You're welcome before we go to the begin our discussion to the NBA season I point one thing about an NBA player who's now going to get a chance to win a championship with his third team? That's Lebron James. It was big news the other day when Michael spoke up about the stuff, okay, because Michael, never did that when he was a player and I just think sometimes we have to appreciate the the the public life. Apart from the Basketball Life Lebron James because he mitch you know. He took the lead on this conversation he was he. He went after breeze. He didn't he didn't do it. In a vicious way. It was like Oh man. Come on, we still having this discussion, but once again. He's not afraid to speak out and I'm not sure. We'd have to make a list. Maybe I'm not sure that anybody with this kind of profile in sports is doing this to the extent that that Lebron continues to do it. And and I thought that was pretty cool yesterday. I think he's a pretty cool guy, is he? Michael No, but I'll tell you what his Lebron s and his heirless different for the two greatest basketball players we may ever see, and he did not screw around yesterday. He went right at this topic and good for him. Well, he's been. He's been great I'm in a lot of ways and. I totally agree with you the one thing I will say. You know we. Have to be careful in terms of winning all. One ethnic group racial group to all be a monolith. You know the the whole point of everything ultimately is that we're talking about people I and and racial background second. You know we. We want to judge people simply by. You know. Every individual person regardless of race I still. That's the goal right. Isn't that the whole ultimate point of it all so? Yeah the. Difference approaches what I'm saying within the black community as well as any other community and. Lebron yes, applause for Lebron. Yes, AIDS. Mitch Mitch Are you happy with the NBA plan for the resumption of the season when it's going to end how they're going to implement and I, I must say this again. Maybe we'll find out someday who said Hey. How about if we take the whole thing to Disney? World because it turned out to be brilliant. The way that they're going to approach it I. Think is the only way that they can. The bubble thing, but people should remember people listening to us. This is a plan that apparently the board of governors is going to approve in the NBA is going to present. The Union has not signed off on it, and I think just as if the B- The baseball negotiations. You'RE GONNA. See some some hands raised in the room by the Union about okay, hang on a second year now not the least of which is that they're taking twenty two teams, which means they're leaving out. How many? Nine. Thirty One I. Always Forget a straight now. There's thirty. They're leaving at eight. Okay now. Why is that a problem well because they're going to play an eight game sort of regular season, that also may add a couple games. To play in. That's eight games that teams like new, Orleans. which are out of it? But they're going to get a chance to play into it. Get to play whereas teams like the Detroit Pistons in my backyard, do not get to play now if you think that those players in the Pistons are GonNa, say wait a minute, so they're going to get paid for eight games. Which NBA player depending on their career, right? That could be worth. What fifty grand a game one hundred grand a game I don't know when you've got a big contract. They're gonNA. Get a chance to make money on eight games, and you're telling me I can't. I can't play. You're going to have a regular season for them, but they're not in the playoffs, but you're gonNA. You'RE NOT GONNA. Have I? I could see their player agents, and the Union saying you've got to pay the players on the teams like the Pistons. And the rest the amount that you're gonNA, pay the players who don't make the playoffs on the other teams. Otherwise, there's a financial inequity. Then you have the question of WHO's like the furthest doubt who's six games out. Whoever's at the bottom of the pile I duNno, if it's Portland or Sacramento or San Antonio one of them as soon as they play, what basically two games? They're mathematically eliminated, right? If they lose. They're going to come all the way back to play two games, they're going to go through training camp and all this risk corona virus, and all that to play two games in them. mathematically eliminated I would have much preferred that they just start the playoffs. And I think there wouldn't have been that much blowback from from the team so I. Think you'RE GONNA end up hearing more about this than they will the other way around because. Not the. One hundred percent where you just say. Shouting no, no, no, no, no! No I say it with. Great feeling and respect because I just looked at the standings, okay? The Orlando Magic or eighth boys in the Eastern Conference okay. The the wizards are five games behind them. Yeah, can they make that up in games? Yeah, are they going to know now you go to the Western Conference. The Grizzlies are thirty two and thirty three in the spot. The trailblazer does your next four games behind with thirty seven losses. They're not gonNA. Make that up star. You're one hundred percent right, start the playoffs and by the way about the Pistons Mitch. This may sound harsh. If. They wanted to keep playing. They should have played better my. Right about this, I know you listen guys. Tyler I wish toddler could queue up that fifteen times I have said over the past two months that the NBA. Had Golden Opportunity here that the NHL doesn't simply because of the situation that has just enumerated. They have a clear cut difference between the eight teams who should be in in each conference. No argument. There's a gap of significant gap between eight and nine. Before, they just absolutely said we can do to play. NHL Has a nightmare. You look at their standings. They couldn't arbitrarily do this. They'd have to figure out a way to have people play in the NBA had it. It's Otheir, not platter. It's the only way to do. I got one word for you Bob. I got one for you and Mitch because I had thirty seven losses for the trailblazers. But Zion is thirty six losses. He's three games behind. I swear to God. They're they're doing everything possible. To Get Zion Williams into the playoffs Mike Mike I. Don't know if you're saying facetiously yourself but I. I think that a lot of people suspect that that's what this is about like. Let's give him a chance they can. They can somehow make up three three and a half games behind Memphis. They can somehow make it up and we can sneak Zion Williamson into the playoffs. Yeah, how great that will be for the for the NBA. But I mean that's that that throws everything out of kilter. They could have come up with such an easy plan of the top sixteen teams, and then there's then the other. The other players will say well the regular. Regular season ended then with whatever it is however many games they are into it about sixty games at the regular season ended there. There's no disparity between the teams that did make a didn't make the playoffs and didn't make the playoffs. You either didn't or you didn't now. There's going to be a disparity between the teams that didn't make the playoffs and the teams that didn't make the playoffs, and you're gonNA have you're going to have teams like Detroit, and I keep referring to Detroit okay. I live here. They're not gonNA have played if they're going to. This thing's going to go into mid October. They set up if it goes to game seven. Of the NBA Finals, which means they can't start. You think about starting the next season until maybe Christmas, and that's if you only give yourselves two months off two and a half months off as opposed to four months off when you normally get, but even with Christmas that meets the Pistons players and staff, and all the rest basically will not have played from February till, December. Layoff that's a competitive disadvantage as well just as competitive disadvantage for the team that wins the NBA finals game seven has to turn around and start playing again in in six or seven weeks so there's a lot to this that I wanna hear what the players association has to say, but I think they missed a golden opportunity to shorten this thing. Yeah, because we really do need those eight plant that could have shortened it. Stayed away from flu season may be finished by September instead now they're potentially going talk. Tober and everybody says flu season actually begins late August and starts into that. Stay away from the flu season. Stay away from Kobe nineteen be fair to the other teams. And instead they had to add on this extra piece of Plato onto the onto the sculpture and I. Don't get that part. Let me paint the picture real quick. October Twelfth Game Seven of the finals share, do you watch it or you're? GonNa Watch Monday night football the chargers at the saints. withdrew. Pledge You bring up. You bring up a good point in that. This is something that I don't think the NBA ever had to face. What do they do on a Sunday? The Sunday always used to be you know that's a great day for NBA Finals and in June and May in the playoffs. Three Games when they're in the playoffs. You get a great finals game on Sunday night now. They're going to be up against the NFL. They've never had. Had to take on the NFL to try to get viewers. Are they going to avoid Sundays? Are they going to not have multiple games on Sundays? Because you don't WanNA compete with Games during the afternoon. Is Sunday going to be there Monday, and then they're gonNA. Come back and and play games on Monday to avoid it this this clash of the titans, the NBA and the NFL has never happened, had playoff, and for and Mitch and Bob I'm telling you. There television product has gotten a lot shakier over the last couple of years. Okay, remember how hysterical way back in the day remember all the plans. They were coming up with the mid season tournament to help television. Mitch, I. Don't see them playing on on on Sundays. What's the highest rated network show on the planet? Sunday night football. You're going to go up against that. You're going to go up against. The cowboys play the Eagles in the four o'clock game. I, don't think they are and so it may be a six day workweek. For the NBA, and and that that doesn't even begin to speak to the issue of whether we're going to have college football or not, but Mitch has for the ten month. Think my buddy. Frankie! I Solo. Nobody for the Daily News and ESPN and all that stuff now. He said yesterday the same thing you said about the Pistons that. The Knicks will now go ten months without playing a basketball game for real and I jump. Back at him and I said okay. What's the bad news you know? Here's one more question before before we do work from our friends at Geiko okay. This is a thirty second commercial and I'm going to a lot of numbers at you, but please stay with me in just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. This company has been offering great rates and great service for over seventy five. And anytime you need help, you can speak to one of their trained specialists twenty, four seven. The company is gyco go to GEICO DOT COM today. Sorry for all the numbers in five, four, three, two one I'm out of time. Okay, another question. You can't have the NBA draft until later. You can have free agency until the season is over. You're talking about basically than having free agency between October twelve and the first day of the season, which is Christmas. Means you gotTA signed people for be some kind of training camp. The Pistons have to have some point they have to get back on. So there's a lot of questions about this. A lot of bowling pins that get knocked over here. It's not as simple as hey found a place to play. We finally found a gym jam. We're all done here. you know, and then there's the whole question of a you know who gets to eat where what restaurants I'm seeing their signing, saying what they can eat in the restaurant at the resort, but outside and the cooks who work in their can have contact with the players because they don't want to give them nineteen right now. Their plan is of a player. Gets covid nineteen. He'll get. He'll have to be quarantined, but they're gonNA. Keep playing. You know well. When does that get considered dangerous? You know when you go, so you're just going to allow other players who have been exposed to it continue to play against other players who haven't yet been exposed to it, but now they will be exposed to. There's a lot of questions here Lucy. Mitch when you said free. Agency begins on October twelve, and it goes to I almost said October thirteenth. Mentioned way, back, the name of Zion Williamson I'm just going to put in the back of your head that by the next time we convene, we may have another reason to be discussing Zion Williamson. Have you've not been paying attention to what's happening with the a lot of my plate, Bob. The allegation here there's an allegation of improper benefits that. resulted in him, enrolling at a certain institution in Durham North Carolina, and that is not going to go away quietly all right. But Bob Bob his has shown us that wants a guy is in the NBA or in the professional leagues, the amount of significance of his college improprieties shrinks proportionately. Think about Reggie Bush and others it just you know absolute basic proof of wrongdoing, and if it gets a shrug and it gets. No No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not when we're talking about Duke and. Hang sanctified coach. Okay, that will not. Be. Too At, this not? Williamson now. No, no. No No No, no! Williams on the issue of college basketball, the issue of Duke and affected. If they get hit caught if they are caught with two hands up there up to their elbows in this scoop, it's going to be a story that's. Always very well. And we could sink in. We could sink our teeth into that story very nicely. That's I'm not sick tooth any. Because you poop! But but but. Always remember the wisdom of the leg. Jerry Chart, Canaan, who used to say? If Kentucky gets caught by the NCAA doing something wrong. They put Cleveland State on probation. And and you know it's still. True today as it is, but getting back to these playoffs, we are all in agreement. We're having this regular season and I'm glad we're having this game regular season because Mitch and Bob. You know I will call you after two games and I'll say. Do you guys think the season's dragging a little bit? Let's get to one more sport one more sport now that the NBA seems to have a framework of a blueprint of a thing in place. Things are going great in those baseball negotiations. Don't you think? Just. I think the very close I really. And Fifty one hundred twelve is not as far apart as people think. One is two and a half times. The size of the other one is no reason to think that they're far part. It's just beyond belief that the players would topa. Thing in which they would intrude it that far into the fall onto reasons, one of course is the is the possibility of the second wave in second is effect. This little thing called weather, but. It's they would be they don't. They have to talk about neutral sites at that point, right? But, the whole thing about the second wave is ignoring. You know a little bit of news that way. Is that not the joker in this deck Bob and Mitch is that not the Joker in this deck and Mitch Talks about all the time the second wave? Okay, we don't know when it's coming. We don't know how big it's going to be, but does either any of us. Deny the fact that it's coming. It's coming and then you look at these demonstrations. The demonstrators thousands of people crowded together whether whether they're wearing masks or not i. don't care you. Think they not rubbing up against her? Breathing the same air you wonder in a few weeks time is they're going to be some kind of surge in in areas in Los. Angeles for example in New York for example as a result of this and it's I. Mean no one. It's as if you cove in nineteen just fell off the news page. All of a sudden because everybody is is so wrapped up the George Floyd things, but you know. As, we've set all along. This disease doesn't care about anything. It doesn't care about what you reason is forgetting together, or or whether you're justified or all the rest of it. It's going to do what it's going to do. And the one thing Mike that everybody seems to agree on even though in nineteen divides a lot of people, even scientifically medically and prediction wise everybody seems to agree on a second way. I haven't heard one person say what second wave everybody seems to think. When flu season comes around, this thing is going to kick up and this is when. All of our sports here now except what we don't know what hockey's doing, but they're now dipping into that season. If basketball goes into October, if baseball. If they ever get anything a act together, they're going to be playing into November. You've already got football and college football playing at the same time, so they're all potentially in the danger zone, and nobody seems to want. Even acknowledge that, so you know there. They'll get it together and they'll play something. I don't know if baseball basketball well baseball is is is so much about money now. And I don't know if fifty to one hundred fourteen. You find any happy medium there I. Don't know well could do the math. He always does the math he can. He can find the happy medium. But you're right Mitch. What kind of cynical person would think they're far apart? What? What cynical bastard thinks that baby? They've got a lot of work to do if they're still pointing towards independence, day just start this season Bob you probably know this is year number guy. If you play a fifty game season and you have a full postseason. Is Your postseason actually long than regular? A. Feels Way with baseball frighteningly close. Yes, yeah. It's we. We all keep saying the same thing. People everybody every commerce in America every pundit, said baseball. Get Your Act together. You have to understand you gotTA have? Your Games in peril. Your game is in Peril A. You gotTa sport the Devante already you don't WanNa. Give people any excuse to ignore you. Do Live without you. That's a real danger I'm not. I truly believe that and and they don't seem to grasp that they're. They're overrating your importance. In the American culture, they better get together. They veteran realizes well. Something tells me by Monday we'll have more to talk about. I matched Mitch. By the way you say this all the time. There hasn't been a game for real played in a long time. It was except maybe Bundesliga soccer in Germany. We find a lot to talk about twice. It's really it's really quite something but we enjoyed the discussion. We hope you have enjoyed it. On this edition of the sports reporters podcast. If you did leave us a comment. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 289 - Discussing the NBA Return. MLB Closer to a Deal? Who's Playing in the Tennis US Open?

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 289 - Discussing the NBA Return. MLB Closer to a Deal? Who's Playing in the Tennis US Open?

"Award. Winning Journalists New York Times bestsellers don't. Know opinion left unsaid. An Institution for sports talk in information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu Mitch Albom and Bob Ryan. Of the Boston Globe and ESPN. Mitch Albom of the Detroit free press while they say that's who they are Mike live, and it'll be dot, com Ny Daily News and welcome to the Thursday edition of Sports Report is podcast guys I? I've been wondering about this for a couple of days. and. I want you guys to help me out as we begin our NBA discussion today, and it is this. When the held a Kyrie Irving, the conscience of NBA players can summit. was there a vote taken that I missed? was there a memo sent out? Where did this guy who has played so little in the NBA taken upon himself to somehow become the voice of the Players Association. Well, we We had an exposure to Kyri here in Boston Massachusetts and my summation of the experience aside from the fact that when healthy he is a very highly talented player, highly talented. No, not going be any way I'm GONNA be great his game, but he has a peculiar personality. He is a somewhere he he's. Intelligent, no one can say dozen, but not as much as he thinks he is. My judgment might take is that he is one of these people in there, and we will encounter them who are not as quite as smart as they think they are, and and that's a be He. He seems to have an aspiration to be a leader, but doesn't quite know exactly how to do that. and. That was quite manifest here in Boston with the way he. Browbeat the. Young players I, and and he just he, he can't. He wants to be the center of attention of a miracle. He is he not still in Cleveland. So you know. Well, he could coaches leading with talking and there's a big difference Ironically, the person who is leading everyone says we're. We're GONNA. Look towards Lebron. James hasn't done any talking on the particular matter of. Should we be in? Orlando vis-a-vis the protests that are going on Let's talk about the issue that Kyrie Irving planting the flag on his saying well, this'll be a distraction from. What's going on in in in in in the streets right now? Well, okay, let's let's put a corollary to that the reason they're not playing basketball as corona virus, not black lives matter not social protests, not police corona virus. That's the reason we're not playing basketball. We have had issues with police going back years after years of years all the names that have been brought up and they played basketball through all that and baseball and football, and still commented and still tweeted, and still could do whatever they wanted. So, what exactly is it that he thinks can't be done while the game of basketball is still being played. Everyone from Charles Barkley to Stephen a Smith too many many other African American commentators and other players have said you have a far bigger spotlight and a far bigger platform to say anything you want when you are actually playing when you're not playing. Nobody's coming to you. Nobody's talking to you. What kind of attention are you actually bringing and if he is so? Myopic to think that once basketball starts, nobody will be able to concentrate on important issues in the country because basketball so arresting, even though it's going to be played in a vacuum then he's thinking more of his game than it deserves. Now it's not for me. I'm not a basketball player. I'm not African Americans, so it's not for me to tell him where his conscience should be on these things, but at face value in the argument, it doesn't seem to hold up and as an officer, Wide Vice President of the Union obviously knows you know he aspires to be the president. You would think now. It just comes down to his inflated self. Esteem is inflated. Self importance in in the scheme of things you know once you step beyond. The fact is I said he gets to the hoop as well as anybody size I've ever seen okay gotta give them that, but he hit the biggest shot in a in a decade and the NBA finals or give them that, but you know we're talking about something else now, and this is consistent behavior guys, and I say I the other thing I summarize when asked about Kyrie in his tenure. Tenure in Boston is that I believe that this stop and with the nets will not be his final one, and that there will be a couple more at each juncture. When he departs, people wind up. Saying and we'll wind up saying we couldn't figure. It had guy out because what he hasn't figured himself out. That's what I think. How the hell did he become vice president of this players socio I'm serious I'm not dismissive of his beliefs, his journey, his experience or anything, but I. I'm I'm sorry Mitch. You know Bob. Where has this all been okay is? Is this this fervor? Where has it been in his career up until this point? Okay again. All we have known in his basketball career is he made one of the biggest shots in the history of the NBA Finals to help Lebron win a championship in Cleveland. Good for him. Good for him, and then he didn't WanNa play there anymore and now he's in Brooklyn and Bob's right. It will not be his last stop. It won't even be a second to last. And it might not be his third to last stop. Okay, but W-. In what world does he think? He will ever have a bigger platform. For Social Justice and black lives matter, and all the rest of it, then being a star basketball player at this time in the country, where he will have the attention of a huge part of the sporting public, maybe as much as the NBA could have even without an actual audience at the Games. So where's the logic here that he would have to work full time on this and not be a basketball player I. There isn't any Mike. There isn't any it's nonsensical. Unless Kyrie Irving right now today when there is no basketball is spending twenty four hours a day in the streets. His Living Chop Seattle is doing. He's not doing that now. He's tweeting for all. We know he's very luxurious home. It's someplace very far away from the action I know. He participated in a march or two. He I. Don't think it's his full-time job, so it's not logical Mike and look. We have to put everything on the table here and put everything on the table. Supposition Wise I'm not saying it's true, but it needs to be put. Put on the table. There's also the fact that some players just don't Wanna participate in this thing. They don't want to go to Orlando and be locked down for at least a month up to three months. They don't want to be told that they can't go out. They don't want to be told that they have limited exposure family. The NBA put out I. Think it was one hundred thirteen pages of guidelines of what this thing is going to be like from the testing to the exposure to where you can go into. It is a rule book. And, there are a lot of players just don't want to be a part of this and I. Think you know it have been. When Kevin Durant said. Forget it I'm not playing this year. That Kyrie Irving decided to You know what the movement needs me more now. Because what chance to the Brooklyn Nets have of advancing very far in these playoffs, and so there are a lot of very realistic about this and a saying. We're going to especially the teams that argument in I, think either the nets are what seventh right now in the in the current standing, but the teams that are ninth and tenth and Eleventh. And are looking at this. As we're going into this tournament, six games out of the last position, it could be by the time we play our third game. We're mathematically eliminated and we gotta go and all the training camp and hang around there and a Human Orlando and stay in Disneyworld and all the rest, so they don't want to be there, and it's possible that Kyrie. Irving simply doesn't want to be there and this is the argument that he makes. GUYS HE G so contradictory. He was complaining not too long ago because he was told. No, you wouldn't be allowed to go hang around. Which is you know? He's going to be supportive of his teammates I guess so. He's these contradictory yet. Another time in his life that this is. By you once again, but a trillion time way they had A. Perfect opportunity to just do the playoffs with the lineage. These extraneous T. I know, but they're bringing these extremist people. It's not you're right. Mike my guy. I have a question for you the Bron James. Supporter and route you yeah cleared so on the there is now this notion factors story. I'm looking at right now on SL. Dot Com. Is it fair to put the future? This year's NBA on Lebron James. If he decides that they should be there. Then everyone will be there if he decides somehow comes out and says we. We shouldn't be there then. You shouldn't be here Patrick Beverley tweeted out if he hoop and we hoop, and but the corollary to that is if he ain't and we ain't hoping. I'll ask you the question that you started the show with. Since when did Lebron James decide the fate for everybody else in the NBA I. The Mitch the Progression to feel brand says yes, we go I. That I hadn't been thinking that way until Patrick. Beverley said that okay I I assumed guys. I'm looking at the standings right now. Seriously I assume that. The Box WanNa play the Raptors WanNa play. The Celtics WanNA play. He'd Kinda WANNA play. They don't think they're GONNA win. Okay there, we go to the West. The to La Teams, they really WANNA play. Okay, and maybe the nuggets think they can steal one and Mike Dantonio. Why not us with the Houston Rockets I really think that most of the guys who go to Orlando are going there to get paid. Okay, and then there are those like Lebron who is obsessed with winning titles as Michael was okay and I think that that Lebron wants to play because the meter is running. He's thirty five years old now. Certify Bobby. You know thirty five years old now. He's going to be thirty five in December. Thirtieth, famous December thirtieth. Yeah, and so he wants to play because he wants to win. Okay, and I think that there are two groups the ones that want to get paid the WanNa win and the ones who don't want to be in Orlando. Time of year right. We've all experienced Florida summers. Okay, so what say step outside and so yet bitch I. Don't think it should be on his shoulders. Okay, he's one man one vote. I just. Vote counts a lot more than Kyrie. IRVINGS does well. He's not saying anything for a reason. I believe in that reason is there's no way on earth that he would advocate not going and playing because of the reason that you said he can't wait cheeky. He shouldn't say anything right now. And notice what he's done, said nothing. Yeah, right Yeah Yup can't wait now. There's another group that needs to be concerned and I wanted to ask you about but first a word from our good friends at Geiko. Everybody's got A to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to geico dot. Com and fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car. Insurance got extra money in your pocket. It just may be the most rewarding to do that you do today. So the group that I'm referencing is the NBA. And the coaches union has come out and made a statement with regard to the fact that Mike. Dantonio is sixty nine Alvin gentry is sixty five and Gregg, Popovich, seventy-one, all three of whom technically under the. Endangered, possibly group in Corona. Virus fit the bill you know over over sixty. Let alone over sixty five is generally considered people who should really take good care now think about this scenario fourth quarter guys gathering around. Here's the play on those little white. Chalk board with the Magic Marker. Guys were standing there with their hands on their knees, breathing in and out in and out in and out, while a coach looks up inches away from their faces and tells them what to do. Any one of those guys who has corona virus who might be a symptomatic will be breathing on that coach and the odds of that coach, getting it from him are strong in that kind of a setting. It's exactly the kind of setting that that that the the doctors warn about so I've mentioned this a long time ago. I said what about these older coaches now the NBA their coaches, union. Is actually worried not about what I just said, but about the NBA might not let these guys coach. because. They're in the possible danger category and they're saying they should be allowed to to work and have their ability to secure future jobs not be jeopardized, and the league is assured us that a coach will not be excluded solely because of Eight. I thought the argument was going to be. Do we have to be there for a certain age? Apparently, the argument is please don't tell us we can't be there because we're a certain eight, which doesn't surprise me that they would be you know. Protective of themselves in that way. Are you surprised that that's the way it's turned that they would not be protective of. Huddle. Various do they're gonNA put an ASS on no seriously time out. Everybody puts a mask on and pop or Alvin or Mike kneels in the middle of them gives them his instructions, or is it, GonNa look like one of those interviews. We saw at the golf tournament last week. Where you know, you got somebody extending a microphone. Talk to one of these players. Can you coach by Zoom like you're? Holding up the tablet. You're actually in a room. You know in the locker room. You've watched the game on TV, but you still the coach while Memphis. No I'm not being. Over any crowd noise on the other hand. The other coach can probably hear what they're saying every. Every syllable Mitch. Could. Could they be little Mike to you know so that they have they could stand back and have a distance and they could be Mike. I'm just stolen these things out there now. This is the kind of stuff they're not thinking about because everybody's in a rush to get back, but these are the realities. Look A. One hundred page document to even know Mitch read all one hundred thirteen pages, but that that I if they if they're addressing the sheets in the hotel I would imagine that somewhere. They're going to address that. They're how close a coach can be when he's talking to his team. But what's the configuration like? There is no good one I can't stand on A. A chair I think thing I'm trying to picture it Mitch. The only thing they can do is each group I mean. This sounds silly, but it's it's. It's relevant. WH- they each go to the very end of the court at their ends of the court. Okay, or they put two benches on opposite sides of the court so that the players can stand back. In two lines. Like in the old days, as a huddle up in football that day, with it, sometimes two lines, and so they can talk to their team in a quiet voice without the other team. Hearing I. IT sounds silly, but they've got A. They've got to be able to talk freely to their teams at big moments late in the game right, but as as any one of us an answer, all three of us who've worn masks around now it's hard to be understood when you have a mask on your your. There's a lot of what I and L. Mass, I'm talking about no mass, but like once at one corner of the court talking to their team, and the other guys are at the other corner of the court talking to their team, so they can make the five guys who are playing are going to be breathing hard. You know that and they're the five guys. Six or ten feet apart it's that's a long distance to stand. Still be heard I. mean you know I agree with you. Kitty Corner I think would be the best in terms of where where they would be on the court but and I wonder you know you. You were joking about it, but maybe it's true when a team low would like San, Antonio, new, Orleans or Houston, which has the older coaches the players who are playing when they come back, they got throw him. Ask on as as as as uncomfortable. That's going to be the. Re. Breathing in and out like that is exactly the worst kind of scenario for somebody to catch this look now. Sixteen people went to a birthday party at at Jacksonville Bar. As soon as they open things up and the next day, someone felt sick, and they all got tested in every single. One of them was positive. That was at a birthday party in a bar. Bar Now you know you say well. They spent two or three hours a bar and they were close to one another with this is to three hours of a basketball game. Guys close to one another breathing on one another and coming back to the huddle. So this is one of many many things that the sports have not really walked themselves all the way through. Through and Heaven Forbid Seventy one year old Gregg Popovich comes down with corona virus and finds out that you know. His system is not as tough as he thought it was, and everybody thought it was, and suddenly he's a hospital. Nobody you. They think they're immune. Because everybody thinks they're superman in sports, but we're not and I don't WanNa. See that scenario happen. Happen but apparently they're coach is more worried about not allowing that scenario to happen and making sure they take the risk and and I. Guess that's what they're gonNA. Do Mike got the solution to the mask, the voice problem doing very serious. All three of us have been countless times and circumstances of panels and speeches wearing the little lapel mic with the little. Thing in your pocket, and that would be easy to solve the Mike up the coaches in that fashion, so they would be able to be heard very clearly that that wouldn't be. That shouldn't be a problem, and by the way by the way the only the only coach who's going to be there for a while as Dan Tony of that age, okay? The Spurs are D-. Wherever they are and the the right behind the kings and. The PELICANS I, mean, and so it's Mike Dantonio. Is the one I was actually surprised to find out who sixty nine years old. Mike Antoni Mitch is the only one is going to be around for a while. They're still the three weeks of the training and and the eight games that they have to play. You know gentry and Popovich are all going to be involved in those that the. Minimum a month. A minimum amount of this type of now I'm on long enough and again we. We've gone over this many times and Bob's right. They didn't have to do it this way are. Switch baseball now for we do. a word from our friends at Harris. What of the best things about recording podcasts? You don't need to worry about your hair having a bad hair day which I think. Many of us are these days. Just throw a baseball cap on, and you're good to go, but what about your facial hair? Even with all this going on in the world today I like to keep it clean shape I know my wife enjoys it to, and with Harry's. I know that's exactly. Exactly what? I'll get each time. A smooth clean shave leaves my face. 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We should have been here months a long time ago. Just with regard to this, but what interested me was to mountain went to Mohammad if you will. Is that right and. met with Fluid Clark not vice versa, but the fact that they did sit down and look each other in the eye, which is, we've been talking about as necessary and is. Kind of the way I always taught negotiations. We're supposed to be held. Yeah, so we're inching. Just say we're. We're inching forward. We're not. We're not on the goal line in the red zone. July nineteenth now in the red zone. Guys all right well. They're talking about it, but they haven't decided on a remember. The Union's last proposal was eighty nine games at full salary. This is sixty games at full salary. The seventy two games at eighty-three percent of the salary was already rejected so I don't know where they every day that goes by is cutting into the number of days that they can actually play and with the League saying that we've got to be done by September twenty seventh of the regular season because we're not gonNA take postseason. That's a hard out and Mike. You've been talking over and over about how short a leash there on here now today's June eighteenth is were recording this June July. July nineteenth therefore a month away where they're starting to play for real now they don't have an agreement as of June eighteenth it sure as hell need at least three weeks to warm up if they don't WanNa, have injury after injury when they start playing especially to pitchers, and so you're down now to seven days between a deal and having everybody in place to start spring training, and they still haven't agreed on anything yet I don't know why they don't just split the difference. Okay, sixty five. Five or whatever at this point, it's not for either side. It's not the kind of money that that should be yes or no money, and to to have a sixty game season instead of a forty eight game season. which the League can-do Remember. They have then in their back pocket. I don't know why they're quibbling. Here I know come back in makes you wonder who's really running this thing because Tony Clark had the authority to go in the room and make the deal and then. Then he apparently makes a deal, but then has to go back and check then. He doesn't really have the authority to do it on his own, and there are forces that he apparently needs to check with, and what I'm hearing is that they want more? No, they can give us sixty five. A sixty eight can give a six now. Is it really worth it at this is not mentioned. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The Players Association whether they knew how smart they were being or not. When they said tell us when tell us where okay that put tremendous pressure on the industry. But now and I think Bob I. Think is actually smart of rob to go to Arizona for this meeting. Because it. It was a more statesmanlike thing to do now. They put a proposal on the table. They've gone from thirty percent up to thirty seven percent. These guys are going to get twenty five million more for postseason, play and thirty three and forgiveness on the on the advanced that they gave them when spring training was still going on. Okay, and and now I really think there should have been a deal the other night, but you're right is is is. Is Clark taking back to his executive committee. Is he taking it back Scott, Boras. He One guy had the authority to make the deal. The other guy didn't have the authority to make the deal. I still believe that they are going to make a deal in the next three or four days. I do because they can't let this thing. Go on to where they start in August and is sixty five games enough. No, it's not enough, but in this time it's going. Going to have to be enough, and they have run more money out of the League okay. The League was stuck. You know we've we've talked about this thirty percent. It's up to thirty seven percent. Do they have some arbitrary number two? They have to get to forty percent. The this is this quickly went from being on Manfred to be in on Tony Clark in the players now. Oh most definitely on the players now at this point and there. Caroline was good. Just tell us where it tells when the that was, that did put pressure on baseball and I think prompted this meaning, but. What happened after? That is just tell us where win, so they came back with a proposal and then rejected the proposal. Don't he says don't come back to me with any proposals that we're done with proposals and man for came back with another proposal, and they rejected the proposal. It's the same thing over and over again, but it's guys. Did you happen to read the small print of this? Maybe I'm just late to the party. In addition to all the money they're wrangling over. The postseason is now going to have sixteen games for the next two years, not just this senior team six sixteen teams, a designated hitter is going to be in the NL for both years now. I wasn't aware that. Teams are going to be allowed to add advertisements to their uniforms like race car drivers according to sources on this. Can you imagine that what people will pay to get in a Yankees uniform or red sox uniform and you're gonNA. Step up to bat and there is. A GEICO, AD or Harry's add or you know who might as well give our sponsors some play why? I mean this is. This is a new a very very new norm for baseball. Welcome to international sport, guys, you turn on a primarily game and you. Are you saying who's playing and you're saying? You look survive what it is. It's the sponsors Jersey now this is. He's been so pure, bobby. All Hey. Development you talk into the Mr. Purity here and my wishes for baseball, but but it comes a point when you have to. You know accept we'll be pragmatic. Pragmatism is going to rule out in the end here. Yeah, no, it's all. That favor the big market you know higher TV teams is the same same. advertiser is coke going to want to be on the Kansas, city. Royals Jerseys as much as GONNA WANNA be on the Yankees or the red. SOX DODGERS JERSEY. That's a that's A. Another opening another area of discussion I was going to say can of worms, but I don't want to be. It's GonNa, be top now Mitch. It's going to be tough for Clark to say Oh this. As they have moved the owners have move. It's going to be tough for Clark now. To say Oh, this is still completely unacceptable. UK and it's up to clerk, and so they're going to have to again. They don't want to push back. They here's the other thing and we have talked about this guys. They. Don't WanNa start after the NBA okay. They don't want to start the starting. They're starting their season at a time. When the NBA is going to begin the the start of the ending to their season, they just can't put themselves into that position. They don't want to follow hockey or basketball. They need to be on the field by the middle of July and that's why. You guys have heard me say this. Why do I think they're gonNA make a deal? Because in the end they can't make a deal. I'm going to go on on record and say it'll end at sixty five. Putting my money on sixty five. That's and I'll know very soon like within two days if they're gonNA make it or not because they're going to run out of time if they want to stick by that and if they do by. Twenty seven if they do it by. Mira Mitch the Tigers will only have to play thirty two thirty three. You know what I'm saying. Or maybe just stay home like tyrod survey one more subject to bring up on today's program, but first a word from our friends at. Okay. This is a thirty second commercial, and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you, but please stay with me in just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. This company has been offering great rates and great service for over seventy five years. Anytime you need help, you can speak to one of their trained specialists twenty four seven. The company is GEICO GO TO GEICO DOT COM today. Sorry for all the numbers in five, four, three, two. One I'm out of time. So I. Don't know if you saw this latest story. Los Angeles chargers coach Anthony, Lynn said NFL teams would quote would be crazy not to add Colin capper nick to their list of players to work out. He goes through the whole thing. Colin fits the style quarterback for the system. We're going to be running competent happy. He's been in a super bowl, but basically then when they said to him, so how about you? Well we're pretty happy with our quarterback situation. We're kind of filled up here. You know we got. We got tyrod. Taylor is going to start. We drafted Justin. Herbert and we've got this eastern stick. Yes, that's a real name eastern stick. And he's on the roster, but you know you're somebody should. Somebody should should should sign him for sure somebody should sign him. The raiders have been noted as a team that could possibly sign him and mark. Davis said you know he'd be more than willing to entertain the idea of taking on capitol if his coaches and GM want him, but so far quarterbacks he's. quarterback that's right, and so he's got Derek, not just two quarterbacks Derek. Carr and Marcus Mariota not to mention Nathan Peterman. All of whom have been starters in the league. So my question to you guys is everybody keeps talking including. President trump. Gay Be Great if Colin Kaepernick. We're on a team if he although trump put the caveat if he can still play, but do you really believe that there's a team that is going to get over yet, but the the, but not us part because we already got our quarterback situation, actually work him out in the next month or so as as players start to come back, there are teams that really could use the in theory what he could be in theory, assuming that he can regain some form of his old self to in theory, but they match up with the the owner you know the owners willingness to. Take it you know to deal with it to absorb whatever it would bring you know. What's the worst Poe total package worse than matchup? I don't know because I think we can. All I think we would all agree. Yeah, there are places where we can see that. He fits football wise, but it's still a matter of whether the whole package is that does that market? The right market is the owner to right owner. The coach personality to coach personality. You know that's the trick if it's ever going to match when you. Said Anthony Lynn said. I'm sure Mr. Lind's heart was in the right place. Okay, it struck me as being along these lines. Give me liberty or give me death now. I have liberty so I'm fine I'm just I'm just being I'm speaking generally. Speaking generally here, so keep. Maybe he said, give them liberty or give them death because I'm good at quarterback. Even though I've got. A rookie in a bunch of guys, you never heard of in your life i. still believe somebody is going to give this man a chance, and then you know who knows they'll see what they wanna see and they'll say he's lost it. He's been away too long. He just can't you know picking up. Defenses can't throw can't move. Do all that stuff, but somebody there's got to be one brave general manager and one brave owner. I know that sounds crazy. Who is going to step up and do? Do this and and maybe even walk back from things that they said about how they'd have to explain it to their fans at the height of this thing why they did this. I mean the giants stem my giants. They don't have a backup quarterback. They don't have a backup quarterback really to Daniel Jones. They could do this in a heartbeat, and they do it in a place that the Oh basketball coach. Lou Carnesecca used to call macy's window. Will they do it now? I don't think they will. About the San Francisco, forty niners, his old team Dega Jimmy Garoppolo is a starter who has been prone injury in the past Nick Mullins is their backup. Nick mullins. Cj beathard is their third Talk about bringing a guy back home with the new regime, and wouldn't it be a San Francisco type thing to do to Mitch absolutely? Absolutely so, but again you know you keep hearing people. SEATTLE. SEEMS TO BE A. Talks a good game, doesn't he does, but but he doesn't. He said well not here he he also had one of those you know I wish. We had a place for you, but it just isn't. Know working out, but why I mean, are they, are they? Are they so let me look at their Gino. Smith is their backup. authored. Oh God. Gina Smith Yeah. I mean you can't live without that I I i. don't know I just think there's a lot of talk but Bob you pointed it out. It's really going to be hard for a team to bring him in for workout and then say he's not good enough because they're. You know they're going to pay stairs. I well. That's not the real reason, and so I think a lot of teams are afraid of of evaluating him because the basically. If you bring them in for a workout, you better sign him. It's so complicated it is. It's just you know. We were so down it, but it's so complicated. But you know what. I'm going to say. We all we all know that this is an incredible thing that spiraled and beyond all comprehension all right. You know all right. Before we switch to another sport that made a very big announcement in a very complicated world in their sports and I do mean world a word from our friends at Geiko Listen everybody's got A to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM, and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car shirts. Extra money in your pocket. It may just be the most rewarding to do you do today. The US Open tennis is going to be played guys. It's going to be played in flushing. At the Billie, Jean King National Tennis Center it's going to be played without fans and the question now is. Will it be played without some of the top players in the world, even though at the announced I. Don't know if you saw this yesterday via zoom or wherever she was Serena Williams said she's in okay. She's in the question becomes better is because he's hurt. What are Nidal and Djokovic in particular going to do? Well, Djokovic has been quite vocal about the restrictions which include the not enough I. Want like I can't call that onto is right. Who would support personnel that no matter what. You need to. He said you need the physiotherapist. Do you need this? You need to that and and they're not gonna be able to bring everybody they want. So whatever that that isn't that. That's one of his objections, but just the idea about need to quarantine. When you arrived back in the country and all that stuff you know, but but he's been he's been. The most folk hasn't a doll I forget as an adult from sounding off at all. Well, he he. He was Kinda quarantined at his tennis camp for a while. He didn't want to travel internationally. No joke of bitch has been the most vocal voice and again he's going to eventually have to make a decision. Does he just wait and for a couple of weeks after the open and the French Open and play on clay, or is it come to the United States without his and again I? It sounds pejorative. These entourages okay, and which is you, STU? It's a SWAT team. You know it used to be you in Iraq it bag backmile days at and now, but do they want to pass up a chance in there? Are you know obsessive time about majors in this sport? Are they going to actually pass up a chance to come to New York and compete for what you know? What is the first major in this sport since the Australian Open in January? Great question I mean it's a the. I want to clock's ticking for him necessarily, but still you know you. You need to take advantage of every opportunity if he wants to pursue that that that that quest. They're they're talking about doing a similar thing to basketball and that the have a controlled bubble. Right and they WANNA keep players. They're apparently Jovic does not like the idea of being told what hotel has to stay in or out of town hotel. You know he's only be staying in downtown, New York? And you know. He had tournament in in in Serbia. He had a party in Serbia. He basically living up the fact that they haven't had a whole lot of that's there, and and he's kind of been flaunting it there, and now he's been saying well. I don't want to go if I can't take everybody with me and all the rest of, but it's an interesting question that you know the best player in the world or the second best player in the world whoever you want to look at. It is going to watch from another continent to see. US Open title played when he's healthy without him. Now you know there is that whole thing of our? Will they make an exception to right now? We're not bringing anybody into this country from any other country, and so, what is the does? The does president trump issue, a a special dispensation for tennis players to come in? He's not a US citizen, right and so he doesn't have the the right of return US citizens. Citizens do in other in other places and get an embassy, and and there are other players, not just him, but other foreign players who are going to be facing similar question. It doesn't surprise me that Serena wants to play any more than it surprised me. That Lebron James Wants to play and Serena certainly is outspoken about black lives, matter and and civil rights issues, and all the rest of it, but on issues like this. And people getting together and you know. All of a sudden championships become very important and I. Don't think throwing her daughter Mitch. I'm not even sure she would bring her daughter. To New York I. Think There's some question what she. By the by the way you asked me about Nidal and when they didn't know whether the open was going to be played a month ago, and the question was simply. Should have been the pandemic if you ask me today. He said on the fourth of June nineteen a month ago. If you ask me today, I will say no in a couple of months I don't know hopefully, yes, continuous. Like, EVERY RAFA press conference I've ever heard, but we need to wait probably until we have more clear information about how the virus evolves, and how the situation is going to be in New York and in a couple of months, because of course New York has been one of the places that have been very strongly hip by the virus. So, let's see give him liberty, mich or give him death. Well, it'll be interesting. You know no fans, maybe not all the stars. ESPN paid a lot of money to broadcast it, but the thing is that they can take solace and comfort, and they're not in a vacuum. By the time they played this. This'll be late August and early September, right? That's the date that they're talking. By the time they play this once watched a month worth of basketball without any fans maybe a months worth of of hockey without fans baseball. If they ever get together with now showing golf, they'll be getting yeah that. Outside of new. York just outside of New York at winged foot. So, it'll be the norm at that point and. I imagine every player who is in shape and is up for the You know they gave up I. Don't know if it was national or local I talked about it yesterday, and here in Detroit, but gave a list of activities rated from one to nine. That gives you the greatest exposure to corona virus. Nine being a bar or a rock concert and one being basically you know What the simplest one was staying at home. But tennis was very very low. Tennis was like a two or three at the most. Of all the sports that you play, they said it's basically the safest, so so they have the least risk. If baseball players can do this and basketball, players can do this. There's no reason that tennis players can't do it. That doesn't mean that. In the case of Jovic they want to do it. I was actually I was pleasantly surprised that I mean it's still only June. Okay, and I guess they have to start mobilizing everything that they will need to do to get the tournament up and running. I was actually pleasantly surprised that the US Ta and the national, tennis center and all those people. Said Yeah. We're we're, GONNA play. And and here's the here's the other thing guys again. It's such a crazy calendar now. You know there's GonNa, be some tournaments in August. They're moving the the. The Cincinnati tournament which one of the big hardcore tournaments to th to New, York now in the run-up to the US Open. Then there's going to be two clay court tournaments I, think Madrid and Rome after the open, and then they're gonNA play the French. Open they're going to play the French Open at the end of September. So we you know we've been talking for months about how crazy the sports calendar could become. It's going to be really crazy and tennis. Well and you have the travel issue for us. Stars to go right now. We're not welcome anywhere. Americans are going to be one of the slowest groups to be welcoming to other countries because we have the big outbreak in the world and so. You know I I. Don't think that France is going to be in any hurry to have Americans coming in and given the politics and the and the relations between the two countries now at the political level. They're not likely to shower any grace on American athletes. We're not we're right now is not exactly thought at the top of the heap, especially by by certain countries in Europe. Europe so, that'll be interesting to watch as well. I think golf in an odd way has shown people that for all your fears about how weird it's GonNa. Look as we said the other day. It didn't look that weird in Fort Worth last weekend. They're playing golf today. It Hilton head and so they're showing. Yeah, it's it's. It's a new world, but it's still sports and I'd. How many times do we talk on this show Mitch and Bob about how you either get ahead of a story, or you get run over by okay? That's what it takes to take this back before we finish today. That's what baseball's encounter. Okay. Everybody's getting ready to do this, so you better do this. All right, we'll leave it there until we meet again on. Monday and we do this show twice a week. Mondays and Thursdays and for a world without sports we seem to. Always. We running out of time rather than topics. So, and pretty soon they will actually be you know boy I can't wait to be doing this show in August because because I'm to the NHL Playoffs and now onto the NBA playoffs, and now onto the US Open, and now onto baseball. So, we'll, we'll be taking action premesis back. In action. Liverpool's are got a nice little twenty five point lead. I think they're safe by the way. so monies and Thursdays, popular platforms like stitcher and spotify apple and Pandora leaves comment or rating. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 323 - Covid-19 and Football Delays. MLB Championship Series' Discussed

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 323 - Covid-19 and Football Delays. MLB Championship Series' Discussed

"Award Winning Journalists New York Times fillers topic out of bounds. No opinion left unsaid an institution for sports talk in information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Michael Lupica Mitch Albom at Bob. Ryan. New York Daily News Mlb. Dot. com. Mitch Albom, the Detroit Free Press I'm Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe. ESPN. We welcome you to Thursday morning edition, Thursday edition of Sports, reporters, podcast, and gentleman. The the news. Is The news. The news is Atlanta the latest hotspot. The Atlanta Falcons have had to shut down their facility due to the announcement of four more positives. Perhaps putting their Sunday night Sunday game at Minnesota in jeopardy and it just doesn't end. It doesn't end here. It doesn't end in college This NFL season is become what you tell me fill in the blank, not a farce but I don't know what filter is pretty, pretty good There's a lot of blanks and there's a lot of games that don't aren't gonNA run on schedule and at some point. This is going to clog up the pipes you know. When they started at the beginning of the year, they were able to find by weeks or able to push something into December but just like stuffing dirt under the carpet at some point, you end up with a big lump and if this continues to happen and Games continued to be rescheduled, you're going to get a backup in December that's going to mess things up your playoffs are going to get messed up. Your Super Bowl is going to get messed up. I, it's it's inevitable. We are just now turning the corner on cold weather really around the country. And it's not like we didn't have ample warning of this because we were told when weather turns cold, you can expect to have another surge of this whether you want to call it a second way we call whatever you want people tend to get sicker in cold weather in general, and that is still yet to come what's been interesting Mike. I'm Bob We were talking about just before the show is the relative fortunes of different sports with this when the NBA went to a single place and locked itself down for all the kicking and at the beginning. They didn't really have a problem once everybody was inside there were a few fits and starts at the beginning of guys who didn't want to be there or or escaped or expose themselves, but other other than that. It worked pretty well, but this business of going home traveling on planes and going and playing in other cities doesn't seem to be the same. Not For football and not for college football. And baseball survived because it's it's big outbreaks happened early you know it it. It happened basically in the first week of the season to the Marlins who ended up making the playoffs and then the cardinals got hit and had to play seven double doubleheaders in the NFL doesn't have the luxury playing doubleheaders in. In the month of September okay. I'm amazed at baseball has had no problems. You know now that they've sort of gotten through September in into their own a postseason bubble or bubbles plural, and this is not going to stop you guys have heard me say this before we're going to hear at some point that everything's going to get pushed back. They're going to have to buy themselves some time in January and. This is just me and you know. Moving the NFL on anything it's like turning. Around okay. I think the Super Bowl. is going to get pushed back I. Don't think it's happened yet but if they have Mitch Imbaba. Once a week. Okay. It's how many we had eight postponement so far just so far eight officially. Yeah, and looks. You raise a hand. If you think the about the Vikings are gonNA play, I hope they do get to play, but it's it's not like the fate of civilization rests on a football game. Now, this is happening in real time and we haven't even gotten and we'll get to in a minute Nick Saban in Alabama, and his positive test. They have thus far refused as being the hierarchy of the NFL to consider an eighteenth week. and which is the logical thing to do of all. They can go back as far as they want they're going to command national attention. If the Super Bowl were played, March were played in April, it's going to come in to national attention I don't understand their hesitancy at all whatever they do. They're going to come in. We just watch an NBA final October. So. Takes precedence over everything that they're going to be there the big dog I understand hesitancy on this Admitting unless it's just refusal to admit you know that what's obvious everybody that this is a very dicey proposition to be. The only league that didn't move one inch for Corona virus they opened on the week that they plan to open. The only thing they did differently was not have exhibition exhibition other than that they have not. Acknowledged that they're supposed to change in any way because they're the NFL and they treating this like in his they're treating this like well. Guy Gets hurt the day before a game you gotta make an adjustment and and you gotta go in there having teams play with one day of practice. Before game, they're moving games to Tuesday night but they will not slow the train down and Mike I i. don't know I just suspect from having gone to and covered thirty plus super bowls. It's not easy for them to move a super bowl that not because it's not easy to play a game a week. Later, that's the simplest part of it. It's all the corporate logistics and all the plans that have been made all the private planes that had been booked. Because Let me ask you a question because that is extremely valid point. Okay. Do you think that it's it's going to be. That part of the Super Bowl is going to be remotely the same this year they're going to have the parties are they going to have the concerts I been wondering about that myself I don't see how the me maybe it was part of them holding out for some kind of miracle vaccine in December that's going to allow February to be more normal but I don't anticipate that. No, but we are watching. Remarkably Considering the numbers at this time stadiums that are starting to look a little full there's air in the tires you see these college stadiums. Five thousand people lying about those numbers but they are lying about these numbers. You Mitch apply the test when they say it's twenty five thousand people of a place holds eighty thousand are there places it certainly look about a quarter full? No, no, I'm saying. Moore I put you. There are more than what they're saying Oh, Gal. Hundred percent. Yeah and where where is the super bowl supposed to be played this year think Tampa. Big You know big stadium You know they can put twenty, five thousand people in that Stadium and those twenty five thousand are the high flying. Big money corporate people who tend to attend super bowls. I still think it's significant to them. Plus the time of year that they have it the the there's so much money riding on the TV ratings of that that they don't want to disturb that people are used to you know first weekend or second weekend in February. That's a super bowl. That's what we do. Now if they have to they have to but I've a question that hasn't been brought up yet and nowhere have they seen this disgust anywhere. Is it possible that the reason that cove nineteen is spreading in the game of football differently than baseball, for example, the contact. Nobody has brought that up. Nobody's yet proven that linemen across from linemen breathing on each other. Is Somehow more dangerous than you know a pitcher however many feet away from the batter, etc, which you don't have that kind of contact in baseball. No one has bought this up yet unless I'm missing except I thought that was the very first thought that was the very first thought that anybody had with regard thought. Yes. Well thought yes proof. No have any that we caught this because they were in drills with one another. Do not have right but that was the initial. Head football of all things. And Oh, my God you know and be beaten on each other I don't know. Yeah, you're right now. No, it has been. sidelined as part of the discussion in football nobody. Yeah. You're right. Nobody is talking about it out loud and I I was waiting for it to Happen Basketball Mitch I mean although scrums under the basket you know and you know basically no, you're playing with basic the. Least amount of clothing. You can in sports other than you know international football and basketball had to do what it did. No way people could go home being contact with other people and come back out and play a basketball game face to face with one another, and that's why they succeeded and so again this is. Mitch mob it's not like this is going to stop happening. Okay. We're not even eight postponements and we're not even eight weeks into season yet. Okay. So so do the math on that just do the math on on that I have no math to prove this, but it does seem like we're getting a story like the one that came out of Atlanta. That we're doing this podcast every few days now. Okay and and then on top of that on top of that the most famous coach in college football, He tests positive and athletic director Greg Byrne. Positive and tyler you were talking about how you're supposed. He nobody nobody knows the status of Alabama's next game. Which is a pretty big game. Alabama. Georgia, you might say. Look a little bit of a big game on the schedule there. Yeah which they have not moved yet because it's just been a coach and athletic director I've seen nothing and I've combed through all the reports. To suggest how they might have gotten it did they attend a function or something where the someplace where their team wasn't? But I have pulled up the August tenth. Twenty. Twenty Story About, Nick Sabin when there was the arguments going on whether they start college football at all and here's his quote look I. Know I'll be criticized no matter what I say. About player safety but players are a lot safer with us than they are running around home I remember that you did that age well matched. To that not age well, Mitch is that what you're suggesting because you can pull it up August tenth twenty, twenty lot safer with us. Then the are running around testing Mitch and Bob, they're testing everybody you predictably in their program today. Okay. So this obviously, this is an extremely fluid. Situation and. Tyler brewer is there some talk that they might move the the game might be moved? As of right now, everything's still in play. We haven't heard anything. We accomplished me networks. We we obviously we produce play sports as well, and we're doing the Alabama Georgia game on a national broadcast level and yet. To take everyone behind the scenes real quick. The logistics of this stuff is is pretty crazy and it's all house of cards. So one things happens and the next thing you know it's Oh how plans here had backup plans there but it's just so hard to move a whole operation like that. So for us, it's a lot of a lot of fun and Definitely watching this stuff inch with a lot of interest because it's By the way I'm looking at the looking at the story on ESPN and I kinda. CONTRACT, this. Okay. Here's the just the head football coaches in college football who have tested positive nick. Sabin Arizona's Kevin Someone Florida State's Mike. Normal. Kansas, is less mind. Toledo's Jason Candle and Arkansas states. Blake. That's a lot of coaches. Look. We're in a country where the president of the United States had cove in nineteen. There are no more. Well, it's not real until a really famous person gets it the most talked about person on the planet already had covid nineteen, and so for Nick Sabin to get it for Tom Brady to get it for for Jose Altuva, it's not gonNA, make a difference anymore if you haven't paid attention to this thing that it doesn't discriminate between how big you are how protected you might be. Then you're you're just not on the same page as the rest of the world. So there can be no more shocks. It's just wow, there's another one. Wow there's another one while there's another one Cam Newton you know. Every time you get a big name player who has it we act like it's the first time. It's happened. There's no reason to pretend like that. But the Nick Saban is particularly ironic because of what he said about players being safer with him and remember Mike and Bob. The big ten gets into action next week next weekend. They haven't even started yet in the PAC twelve of a week or two after that. Right? So you have at least forty percent of college football isn't even revved up yet. Wait till that starts happening and they're playing their games with no cushion. No cushion you see where they're already playing right up till Christmas, and if you plan on having some kind of playoff that involves all five of the power conferences. And there's issues in the big ten where they're going to put the Games at some point Mike and Bob I think they're just going to end up saying, okay. Game canceled. We're GONNA play nine games this year instead of ten or eight games. You just can't keep rolling stuff into January and February especially in college football football's to one sport you can't basketball you can. You can comp-, come compress baseball. We saw what happened with the doubleheaders that could do it and but football's impossible to yeah. Yeah the. The only school playing football so far west of the rockies Byu. So. Pacific PAC twelve hasn't started yet. Oh, and by the way gentleman yesterday, the basketball started bouncing. College basketball practice start so. Not Close up because yeah, we'll see. Not. That's not a bubble that that's kids going back to their dorms and then coming playing exactly Mike the Defense and in your face kind of stuff that we talked about with basketball. So I don't know how college basketball we haven't even begun to talk about it's just been. You know we haven't gotten around to it yet, but you're right Bob. That's another one to watch before before we leave the subject of of Covid and football and pro football in college football I reminded that we are sponsored by cuts. Clothing. Okay you used to need two sets of clothing one for home one for work. 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It seems like everyone wearing cuts these days get fifteen percent off your first order by going to cuts clothing dot com slash reporters that's cuts clothing dot com slash reporters for fifteen percent off the only shirt worth wearing. Mitch, you just raise the big ten. Okay. And again, what happens what happens if? Everything that is happening everywhere else hits them in week two of their delayed season where did they then find the? Room to play out their schedule in time to do what they are desperate to do, which is to have at least Ohio state in the playoffs. And can I point out of the five power conferences unless I? Miss my geographical mark the big ten is located in a much colder locations than anyplace else. Okay. The SEC has the benefit of they can stay outside all season long. Teams from the South Tom. com, can basically play outside warm weather practice outside warm weather that stops around here in a couple of weeks and and basically you know they're they're they're snowstorms that you've got to go inside and practice for there's There's a stadium that some teams playing. So the big ten is at most risk in terms of matching flu season more so than the SEC or or even the ACC or some of the teams that have so much warm weather. So there's no wiggle room. There's no off weeks. There is no. Let's add it on at the end of the season I've already mentioned there up. To Christmas already, what are they going to do be playing the rutgers game on New Year's when they're supposed to be playing ball games, which is another thing that's all going to have to potentially move and You know I forget the mess it's going to be of the playoffs you're going to be the the SEC is going to be done while the PAC twelve is still playing out at string and the big ten is still playing string and you're going to have some teams that are going to have five weeks to prepare for a playoff game and other teams that might have five days to prepare for a playoff. We haven't even mentioned the mess December January. Now I listened to all this I'm thinking to myself that they anyone. Really. Take it seriously enough to think that. Everything would be fine by now. You know what I'm saying. That they will get the convinced themselves. Bobby, look at the numbers rising even in. More dense parts of this country Mitch's right everything we were told was going to happen is happening Yep. Every state knows not one state is trending anyway direction. You know we were here yesterday. No and look at Europe Oh my God. It's everything they said what's going to happen the so called second wave is real and it's happening but I'm I'm getting older. I'm. So if you're saying is people, can I think they just convince themselves all these athletic administrators and coaches nobody that Nah Nah everything's GonNa be fine by by the fall. Risk of not at the risk of not having the same conversation that we had on this show. Four months ago I will say that things are are different. Now in terms of people are just shrugging it off they're just saying okay. So we won't have that team. Okay. Well, we'll just make an adjustment sketch. Okay. Because they're getting the Games up on their feet and they're getting them televised and let's face it. That's where the money is and as long as they can get a baseball game up and. Televised and have a postseason as long as they can get the football games up and televised and bringing that money. That's what they're going to do for this. The ship has sailed on conscience here because of conscience was really at play particularly in the college sports, they'd never be starting them up the colleges continue to be hot spots and hotbeds for spreading this thing, and it hasn't stopped one college football game. At Power Five Conference or apparently in college basketball games. So they're worshipping at the idol of of television, and if they can get the games up to have something to televise, it's worth it to them and I I don't think we're going to see Mike or Bob this big huge wave of Oh. My God, we've done something wrong here this is. Terrible, we need to close down I. Think they're just GonNa keep limping along dragging whoever they can into it if they lose a soldier along way or a couple battalions along the way well so be it because it's still better to have most of the Games up and televised and get at least some of the money than to close down completely. Greater Good. Guys greater was very interesting baseball. Game. Played last night. In the state of Texas when. The Los Angeles dodgers who had a game three against the braves that was felt exactly like a game seven because game seven can come early especially when you're in an oath to whole. Okay. They went out and seem to bat for an hour in the top of the first and scored more runs eleven than ever been scored in an inning in a postseason game, which by the way after that eleven Mitchum Bob, it meant fifteen for the last two times they'd been to back going back to the ninth inning that the night before, and so I will ask you this question. We always hear that momentum in baseball is the next day's pitcher which the dodgers are hoping is going to be Clayton Kershaw but can it sometimes be the guys who are coming up in the in the first inning? First of all, I wanted to stay for the record that the previous record of ten runs scored in the seventh inning. Of World Series, game in thousand twenty nine by the as trailing ain't nothing against the cubs. I was not there I so i. The Card, I scored ten runs against them the the braves game five last year the first inning. So that's Interesting I I'm a believer. I'm not a believer momentum at all in any sport and I don't believe that I think it's a cannot, and so I don't think there's any. Carry for them finally busting out in the nine mentally I. Think there was a mental carryover that they felt very much better about themselves. Yes. After that the night before when they got back into game and had a chance to win it, there's no question. I thought that way all day long. But I wasn't prepared no one in the earth. For Eleven but yes there but it's not about. It's I don't know if that's if that's how you define momentum. Mike I'm okay. But I don't know what I never even women you could say momentum. The momentum and carry over. Okay. Tomato Tomato. Okay. But did was clearly a carryover yesterday. I have no doubt about that. I think that that what they did late. In Game Two. Gave them a sense of confidence. Okay. We're. We do know how to hit. And this has been an aberration up till. Now, we may be down to Oh but were swinging well, and that's how baseball is especially when they're playing day after day after day, which is the momentum is much much different. Now in these series is going every single day and I think that that that was just a continuation of the ninth inning and what is remarkable to me and this repeats itself over and over in baseball but I am still astounded after after three plus decades of covering it. They did almost all of that scoring with two outs nine I never. We all played baseball. I was always aware when I came up if there were two outs I was always like don't third how to make the third how I was always thinking about. These guys scored ten of the eleven runs with two outs. And nobody seems to have that issue. You know home runs doubles, walk singles no problem. We got two outs so. There was a remarkable explosion not made nobody happier than Tyler producer I'm sure who was was probably the best our. In. Twenty twenty. But does it continue? Well there's a lot. There's a lot that rides on obviously Clayton. Kershaw is back. Literally and figuratively you know Mitch I spoke to Paul O'Neil the oil Yankee yesterday because the Yankees were once down. To in a world series and ninety six and lost the first two games at Yankee Stadium okay, and he was talking about dodgers obviously, this is before game three. And he said, they're not just fighting the way the braves are playing right now he said they're fighting their own monsters meaning the playoff failures great and small started with game seven in two thousand seventeen against the astros where they believe the the ashes new every Pitch Darvish was gonNA throw okay. But no one is more face of the dodgers in this generation and these October disappointments than the guy who has his back is okay. There giving the ball to in game for Kershaw who is there Colfax I'm not saying he is saying to Colfax has been the Colfax of this dodgers era. Okay and he has become the face of it. So this is when you say they're putting it on his back. He's already got a monkey on his back Mitch and the thing Kershaw is the last time. He pitched in a really big moment really big moment for the dodgers was game five against the nationals last year, they were leading three one in game five in the eighth inning and he gave up back to backers to down and Juan. Soto, and the dodgers never recovered about half hour later they lost their season. So the it's obviously a big night for them with a chance to get even which I kind of believe they're going to. Okay. But it's an even bigger moment per Clayton Kershaw. About. Here it's you know it's game four. And boy, I, it's not. It's not a five game series this game for of Seven. So we've got. A lot of drama left I. Think before before just books closed on, but they weren't gonNA come back from three Oh bobby. That's why jumping him early was like, no, admit I'm not I'm not sure they're gonNA come back from three one either and I want to say something else about Clayton Kershaw but first a word from our good friends at Geiko. Banish high rates on car insurance you switch to GEICO during geico weaned. 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Remember that we're talking about I thought about this today we are now a fifty two years into multi-tiered playoff baseball. in the last real In the last time, we didn't have a postseason as we know it we had a world series only was nineteen, sixty, eight since nineteen, sixty, nine, we've had two tiers an since one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, event three. And it's a whole different. Accumulation of ABS opportunities. You know the guy that jumps to mind here in an old era. Done nukem. Of the dodgers who who is a rookie and forty nine Twenty One, twenty game winner in forty nine and one up anyway pitched in in various world series And I think he's the one guy that would jumps to mind as far as to go back that far. I can't I don't know. I don't know anybody else. Mitch. That has had been into Pitch Situation A. In than those braves pitchers collectively who never got it all done. Once Mitch Bob his earned run average in the playoffs is to runs a game higher than it is in the regular season two runs again, he's two point, four, three career. He's four point five in the playoffs he's a five hundred pitcher he's eleven and eleven and his regular season. Record, he's one hundred games over five hundred. Okay and obviously stuff happens in the playoffs and they've been game in this game in that game but but the fact is. He's like one of those hitters he's like what five Alex Rodriguez was like this in the postseason until he had one surpassing October moment in thousand nine and he was everything he'd ever been as as a baseball player and he carried the Yankees to that by the way the one world series victory in the last twenty years. Okay. But again, Mitch going back to what I said. Obviously the dodgers after all of their heartbreak kids seasons have a lot riding on this game tonight because if they get to to all, then we can be talking about them their positive momentum. Okay. Yeah. But man, oh, man Kirk Yeah. They are Clayton Kershaw is asked to stand and deliver today and we have to even if you can stand. Back. Twice anybody's ever had them. I've Adam. And they're terrible and they're unpredictable and they can come at the slightest thing and the slightest twists and what you have to do as a pitcher with your body. They can literally come any pitch that you through look what happened look what happened to your guy last year Mitch Max Scherzer, and he came back from that. Okay. I turn member he's supposed to start game five and and he couldn't go because of neck spasms and then he got he once again he goes in pitches his heart out in game seven without his best stuff and they end up winning. One hundred and seventy five wins and seventy six lost. Two point four, three era. It's remarkable and yet he is. So snake bit in postseason and today will be I'm parting shot on why the calendar at least is on the dodgers side today of playoff miracles. But we'll see if that works out for let's talk about. Let's talk about the other side. We thought. We were. We thought we were done with ask. Tampa. Those pesky little astros. Owen Al to learns how to throw the ball. Again, it could be pretty good and you know he had a game that everybody was waiting for him to have and I think not that he won the game for them but symbolically, that was something in coming back from. What looked like the yips I, mean I. I don't know how to explain it although I don't know two games generally isn't the Yes but but he's certainly for a while there looked like he had forgotten how to play defense and throw the ball and I'm sure everybody in Houston breathe a sigh of relief. I think that was highly symbolic. I know had you know he was his problems with defensively defensive more than offensive, but for him to hit that particular homerun given all the chatter was really symbolic. There's no there's no doubt about it I think very. Very crucial So that, that stat but the upside was if we're GONNA talk about my mic and you live through knob black and and we saw sacks and you know it is a bizarre thing and when it happens is and we've seen pitchers who have lost it the so-called steeply to see. You know. and. I was telling everybody at dinner last night. One of my favorite lasorda stories, which is he has a big team meeting once. In the finally wheels on Guerrero Prado Guerrero and cited he was playing third base. Then what are you thinking with the Games on the line? Tell me the truth. And grow said I hope they don't hit the ball to me and Lasorda said anything else and he said, yeah I hope they don't hit it too sexy and Thinking about him the last couple of days in it's an and I've been thinking about Altuva okay and and. Guys I'm thinking back to something Fay. Vincent said when he was about to George Steinbrenner. For forty thousand dollars to a guy to get dirt on Dave. Winfield. And I'm paraphrasing Vincent, he said no moral alarm. moral alarms because none sounded okay. So I can never tell you what the Astros as talented as they are were thinking when they were cheating. Okay and knowing they were cheating and knowing they were breaking the rules. It's. Didn't need to do it. Okay. It's like it's like Nixon trying to fix the fight and Watergate. He was going to kick George McGovern's and he went ahead and signed off on this and when you see Jose L. Tubing and I've been thinking a lot about his talent and his size this week because. The greatest small player in history died the other day my friend Joe Morgan okay, and he loved Tubay Okay and and out to bay is that kind of player even smaller and when you see his skillset other than being able to throw a ball successfully right now you wonder what he was thinking and what they all were thinking as they tarnished all of their reputations because springer out to a career look how good they are at this game. We'll look at how the season ended. You know last year for the Yankees and the you know. He doesn't need to know what pitch is coming to hit it out of the yard right? Right. I'm saying I with you. It was overkill not necessary. So awful they'll have to all have to live with it and they've they've certainly done their best to to try to divorce themselves to it and they all got off. Scot free the players did them to managers the manager an? You know the both tatum price although both be back and they both might be back this year your. Cora. Hey, man. How Series Mitch, how does this series look right now if the raise didn't catch everything in. The night before forget about two of his image the did you see the leather slapped on him the other night? Well that That's the way it works. You know you get a game and you put it in your pocket and you and that's what you live off of as a series goes on. You know we saw that in the in the NBA finals with the almost games the Miami Heat. But I thought speaking of managers dusty Baker's decision to leave cranky in there and somebody pointed out in a good espn article that Aj hinch had. Grinky at think there was a similar moment and yanked him and the game ended up being lost. You know when you you stay with a starter like that there's it's not just confidence to the starter it not just and he ended up getting out of that that jam in the sixth inning and and and but it's also the pictures you don't have to use, and it's also that middle relief that you don't have to go to and sometimes right at that critical focal point of a sixth-inning. End of a V, six beginning of the seventh. It's such a difference between. Are we going to go to maybe middle relievers or we're GONNA go to our strong guys who can close game out and that was I I laughed a little when I read the Dusty Baker. So while I was there were some prayers on my way back to the dugout which you know I hope I made the right decision there because it had been a second time out to the mound but. It turned out. There saying I got you dusty. Got This. On Corona virus and just jump in here to the world's to the baseball playoffs. I got a couple of dusty `ISMs to avoid do that. 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He's he's you know he's he's a baseball luminary right now that says to the hall of fame he's. Joe Morgan two years ago told me he thought his skill set was every bit as good as Mike Trout. So it's what we'll see. We was I don't remember because I didn't hanging in that whole game last night naturally did anybody hit a ground ball to second base as anybody? I think I think there was one at least what I remember one that it's it's It's it's it's. When I watched this asset no Burland or Mitch. Okay, start there in wonder how this thing would look and and by the way the rays of had like ten pitching injuries this year. So everybody gets hurt I don't want nobody gets talking about injuries, but you just wonder in series this close Mitch and you saw Verlinden at his very, very, very best. It's not just the Games he starts. You know it's it's the fact that you know in a series like this. If it goes long enough, he's going to get the ball twice in its very comforting. Oh no no doubt I mean. It does it's a it's a, it's a crater sized. Absence and if they somehow come back I don't think they will I think Tampa has proven to be pretty resilient. They somehow came back and won the series and end up in a world series again without having just in Berlin for the whole run a bit. While everybody loves to hate them for what they did and Mike, the conclusion might end up being like you suggested why on Earth would you need to cheat look what you can do when you're not cheating and you don't have. What I know. You you'd have to take your hat off to them You might not want to and it might be a black hat you're taking off you know like Roy. I can't get behind them but to accomplish what they would have to accomplish to get to a world series, it'd be pretty impressive and it had to. Do. You think it's finger. Got All of it last night. Oh my God. I mean, that's what I mean by and that's a and we're just talking about they're so good at baseball. Okay. There's an when I'm just wondering what was in their heart when they heard the trash cans banging. Ben Johnson was a great sprinter before. Very, plot pull out there who want. More talented Alex. Rodriguez nobody example in our time, Barry Bonds had a hall of fame resume make him until he decided or his neck till. He got of Mark Maguire you know simple as that. Okay. We we need to get to some football, but before we do. One more word from good friends at GEICO. Really scary seeing just how much you could have been saving on car insurance by switching to GEICO. It's almost as scary as that homemade elf costume. Your mom made you wear in junior high school no Gyco canny waste of memory of tripping down the hallway and oversight pointy shoes. But they could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Stop Waking Up at night in a cold sweat wondering what happened to that green onesie just switch to Geico and save fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance fight the NFL. Corona virus aside has a couple of pretty interesting games. So there's going to be a great one on Sunday night, but before that who would have thought Cleveland Pittsburgh. You know red-letter game. CLEVELAND PITTSBURGH IT IS I keep waiting for by the way for Lebanon. Bell. To go back to Pittsburgh I you know I I don't know if they're talking about that is a potential spot for him but. I'm astounded by what the steelers we're talking about with the browns is the fulfillment that the talent is finally coming to the fore that the talent that they've been accumulating that we talked about, and perhaps they've found the right mentor but you know maybe defense key is the answer that they were searching for a job and that's we everyone in football everybody follows even Kershaw knows that people were saying how they've been accumulating this talent and finding it's happening and it wasn't going to happen with Freddie Kitchens that's pretty evident but it but it could very well be happening with fancy. steelers our foreign. Oh, for the first time since nineteen, seventy nine, we remember what happened in nineteen seventy nine exact is that's just down new to me, I and credit I guess to Mike Tomlin and and the organization. Therefore, they are a ship that takes cannonballs to the side all the time, and especially in these past years where they've they've lost Levy on bell and they've Lost Antonio Brown and honestly it looked sometimes like they were just holding Ben Rothlisberger up with with with stilts. But you know he should've retired a long time ago and therefore no. Four. No. I. Haven't. Played anybody grape. But this is why this game is so interesting to me and why sports is great may remember when we were all talking about on the browns after game one and they looked so bad. They look so bad. Okay and now in addition everything else when the cowboys still had Dak and I know all the problems on the cowboys defense. They went in rang up the cowboys for a million points. Okay. So this it's not the greatest Sunday of the regular season but boy oh boy i. got a party shot brady and Rogers, but there's two games that I wanna see I think I think the browns and steelers is is a one o'clock right? One o'clock game, right? Yeah. We're the other ones at four o'clock. Do not have to watch every Mitch I am liberating. Okay. What's everyone to after the lions to Jaguars? You get the Lions Jaguars. Okay. There's a red-letter. No No. This could. This could be the day Mitch when you're lions plant their flag in Burma. Nobody. Plants. Up Flag Jacksonville okay. That doesn't happen. No we did glide by something that I do think needs to be specified, and that is the steelers have been and you wonder why haven't they been foreign since nineteen seventy nine had come might be due to the schedule of all those years and how the chips fell. They have beaten the giants, the broncos, the Texans and eagles. So, this is a you know we we don't know. We're not sure about Jewish although why does Burger is putting up excellent numbers he's got ten touchdowns one interception he stalling for two hundred and seventy nine yards a game and I understand that that's very, very significant given what we did not know what we're going to get out of this year. So I'm just saying we'll see the steelers haven't been tested yet. Is a test I. DO think it's a test. Yeah, I do I do. Okay. Well, this'll this'll be test I mean look look at who Cleveland has played the slaughtered by Baltimore on the first week and everybody said same old browns and and they came back and outlasted the Bengals in the battle of Ohio, and that's not exactly hard. Then they beat Washington everybody beats Washington then they they had that shootout with the cowboys and when Prescott was still playing. Well, that's an impressive win and was forty, nine thirty, and then this past week they beat the colts. With Philip rivers plan them. I'd say that their body work is more impressive than what Pittsburgh's has been up till now but they have not won in Heinz field in seventeen years in seventeen years and they play them every year and they haven't won there in seventeen years. So this will be one of those big tests for both of them. The see if if they can show the reputation, look it you said Bob the years of promise it's really the the of futility that added up one number one draft pick after another number one draft pick if there another number one draft pick. You you either got to get better or you just have to keep firing your general managers. Now, they have loaded themselves both with drafts and with the free agent signings and they have a very impressive lineup of players right now on that team particular offensively, you know big names that come forward They're gonNA have to play better defense but I really looking forward to this and I'm looking forward to. Pittsburgh. Just have that thing over them still. I see it in in the NFC north all the time that it doesn't matter how the Lions might have a promising team or whatever when they play Green Bay, they just lose one. It matters Green Bay's in their heads and I, don't maybe it's the same thing for Pittsburgh. We'll have to see certainly seventeen years would suggest that. Yeah I would. That's a that's a that's a trend I. That's a definite trend. All right. It is a time for our parting shots today, and this week's parting shots are brought to you by cuts clothing get fifteen percent off your first order by going cuts clothing dot com slash reporters Mike Lupu wanted to get A. Parting shot. Okay as I alluded to Aaron Rodgers and Tom? Brady. A couple of number twelve you may have heard of. Start against each other in Tampa on. Sunday they do this for only the third time in their careers magic and Larry. If you're looking for a comparison played thirty one times, this is all about the schedule in the fact that they never faced each other in a super bowl and just bad luck at least for sports fans and maybe bad Karma. Brady, is routinely called the greatest quarterback of all time with good reason after nine super bowls in six of which he one I believe no one has ever had more share talent for the position than rodgers who won the only super bowl in which he played, but the two of them. Got into play virtual game of one on one. Twice they get to do it on Sunday and guess what who knows if they'll ever get to do it again. News from Chicago is at the White SOx talking to Tony Larussa for their managerial vacancy. Games long enough now in part because Tony Larussa sabotaged the game a quarter century ago with this incessant micromanaging I called what he was doing with this pitchers, the St. Louisa. Of Baseball and now it's a full gallop. Yes I know the resume three world series titles two, thousand, seven, hundred, twenty, eight wins, and if it gets the job, you'd be the first hall of fame manager to go back and uniform I just believe he had more of a negative influence on our enjoyment of the game than any individual of the past forty years starting with the decision to employ his closer Dennis Eckersley only if he had elite and. Nineteen. Women on base this help to inflate the importance of the bogus stat notice a save I know he's fully competent at seventy six and therein lies the problem. He'd be right back doing it all over again at this. The LA dodgers desperately need to get a win tonight against the braves they at least have the calendar on their side on this day thirty two years ago in the nineteen eighty-eight world series Kirk Gibson was sent to pinch hit in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and the dodgers down by one. Gibson had two bad legs. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 165 - Izzo slays mighty Coach K. Why the early games will matter in the AL East. And LeBron shuts it down.

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 165 - Izzo slays mighty Coach K. Why the early games will matter in the AL East. And LeBron shuts it down.

"The. Winning journalists New York Times fillers abound. No opinion, left unsaid an institution for sports. Talk information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu. Mitch Albom at Bob, Ryan kluber. I'll be dot com. Bog Ryan of the Boston Globe in the SPN and on Mitch Albom of the Detroit Free Press. And welcome to the addition of the sports reporters podcast podcast, incarnation of the long running TV show on ESPN. That was Sunday mornings. We do the podcast Mondays and Thursdays. Gives us a great opportunity to wrap up the weekend and here in Spartan land. As they now have renamed the state of Michigan all things are green in Rosie coming up green because thirteen apparently turned the magic number for Tom Izzo against Duke. He had been a one eleven in his previous twelve, but I think a very well coached game a very well executed game. A great play called at the end. Not for the star player. Cashes winston. But for the old guy on the team. Kenny goings to make a huge shot over Zion. Williamson who leaves the tournament and joins many a big name in the. The NBA, and he'll be a big name in the NBA who never saw a final four and the story of the year Duke, and and they're freshmen are out just short of Minneapolis. And Michigan state joins a trio of interesting teams. Let's start with this game. Though. What do we make of what happened here? Well, I met you talked on time just drop to great place at the end. And and the the one in done aspect of this becomes always compelling in moments like this because coach shish chefs key had a very interesting line actress, I'm sure you both saw it. They played older. Okay. And you know, they got a veteran team Villanova had a veteran team. And in the biggest moment of the season for Michigan state and for Duke after all the near misses for Duke. They did not see all the sideline, and they let that kid loose and he ran away with their bass. Football season. It should be noted right now that of the an among the four teams at the final four seven percent of their total points to amend were scored by freshman among the four of them. So the experiencing is very much a story of the of down the stretch yet yesterday. Don't you think so Bobby down the stretch? It just looked like one team was way more mature. And the other thing was they couldn't they couldn't find number one at the end when they needed him. Well, not just down the stretch, though. I thought the beginning they really look bad. And in fact, I believe she chef ski screened it. Then that's the worst four minutes you've ever played, you know, where soaping four minutes and the next four minutes weren't a whole lot better. They looked like they forgot who they were. And that's what often happens with freshman dominated teams when they get to the absolute biggest games, and we're gonna see won't come next weekend. How much that's true or not? But you know, in the days when we used to brag about, wow, these guys are loaded with. Freshman there was like a caveat to that. There was that means they're going to have great soft Boers. That's not what it means anymore. It means like you're going to play your one shot with your freshman. And then they're all going to be gone. This Duke team doesn't exist next year. So yeah, you're right, Mike. I mean a team that it's not like they're all seniors by the way, but they do have one fifth year senior going to made the biggest shot of all and Winstons not a freshman, and you know, they play with a mixed lineup of young and old and that proved to really be an advantage both at the beginning. And that the and Mitch and Bob you see this year after year and time after time, and we'll get to the play that say Virginia. Okay. But caches Winstons are are like gold at this time of year. Okay. You need a wise. Head on the court when everything else is flying apart in all different directions. And Mitch you watch Michigan state more than. And I do who would have thought coming into this game against the Duke blue devils. The catch us Winston which take the most shots in the game. And essentially for my money be the best player on the court isn't the formula the best formula the tried and true formula to win an NCAA championship in March madness a great point guard tough defense in an couple reliable older. Big guys, isn't that a very good way a good coach and a good coach Mitch when you when you look at cash Winston, do you not must you not think of Mateen's cleaves in the van comparable circumstance in two thousand. He's not as fast as Mateen cleaves was. But he navigates in traffic the same way. He he is like a guy you ever played that gulag of video game. You know, where the key is to shoot at the rockets that are dropping bombs on you without getting let me just stop there for me the answer that's a hard. No for me. If I ask your kids. Attached to the pacman, you know, you played in arcade. But the point is you move your guy around and shoot at them while they're dropping bombs on you and you avoid the bombs. He moves exactly like trust me. Anyone who's listening knows exactly what I'm talking about? He can get into the lane or right at the top of the key and manipulate between guys and not have the ball stolen. And it's just like he's just waiting until guys. Get out of his way refines little opening and either dishes or throws up. A little Hooker throws up a little six or eight footer from there and that is a skill. That is very very hard to find in college basketball, plenty of guard who can shoot long and plenty of guards who can drive not that rushing to my head as you say that because I said, oh, bingo, we saw that twelve months ago Villanova. Yep. That he wondered how it was going to. He was going to translate his skill to the NBA because he of the the size of the. Athlete lettuce system that were marked his game. And and you know, Bruns, Mr. young Mr. Brunson another one twenty years ago Khalida mean who had that funny body, but he got where he wanted to go. I say he got where he wanted to go guys cooking get where they want to go on the court and always seem to do that. No matter somehow, some magical ways you described it Mitch navigate like that same same idea that hasn't changed in historically twenty and ten for for Mr. Winston. I mean, it's such a good story. It's a good Michigan story. It's good Detroit story. Okay. And when he broke free. You know, what I'm sick of what he broke free. It's Stefan digs against the saints in that playoff game where he caught the ball. And all of a sudden realised everybody else on the saints had gone home. That was a stunning an end as a last second shot or last second free throw or a tip in the didn't go in and do couldn't catch him. And he's running all the way. To minneapolis. And they're going back to them without making it to the four. Now having said all that they didn't have the game one. If. If they somehow stop that because they blew it on the free throw RJ Barrett of all people, you know, missing the free throw, and then making one that he didn't wanna make put them into that that weird situation, and, you know, two free throws, and it could be going overtime. And we can't we can't overlook that. You don't miss a free throw at that time of year. But you know, again, if you're young team that's not that surprising. I'm going to tell you point in the game. And it's funny when it was going on I said to the guys who I was watching with remember this no one's ever been remember this it's insignificant. It feels like, but this is going to be really important announce I look it over I believe that. I was right in the beginning of the second half. Michigan state had have for them, you know, a pretty significant lead. And I think it was forty one thirty five when going made a jumper. I following the forty one thirty five and it felt like they were, you know, kind of comfortable then Duke turned it on Williamson may one of those three pointers. Williamson may one of those monster dunk. Wchs. Trae Jones made a layup, and they took the lead and it felt like one of those moments where oh there goes do. And what happened Nick ward gets the ball from cash. Winston gets the ball and racist it up the floor after trae Jones made that lay a racist. For like, we are not sitting in that moment when the place is going crazy and Duke just took the lead. We are not sitting here. And he raced it up any found ward for an easy jumper, and they took the lead back, and then it settled down again. Now there are moments like that. No one will ever notice them because they don't come at the end of the game. But he doesn't do that. And do could go for three more baskets before they catch themselves. And that's what Tom Izzo loves about having a guy like caches Winston who who who leads. I thought Barkley actually Charles Barkley said at the best that he's not the best point guard in college basketball today. But he's the best leader. He knows what the team needs at that time. He knows whether it's time for him to take it or to find somebody else and that moment that for. Was forty two forty one forty three forty to stem, the tide and from then on it was a back and forth game until the and I'll tell you something else about this game. These games are so interesting because yes, you can shoot your way into big leads. You can shoot your way out of huge deficits with three point shots. Okay. But this was a game yesterday with the two teams combined for for nearly as many threes as Carson Edwards for do the other night. What did he make ten? They're only thirteen in the Michigan state Duke game yesterday warms my heart, naturally, you know, the old fashioned game and the score reflected. I kept thinking this is a low scoring game really relatively very low scoring game for teams of this cobber with this kind of talent, but speaks to defensive with Ducasse always under coach K been excellent defensive team and course, Michigan state's reputation as well. Well, established and style of play and with with the overall. No, I one thing Bobby. Tommaso? Did I know that at this time of year? And we we all noticed the announcers obsess over coaches. Okay. It's like coach K against coaches down the low blocks, you know, boxing out for a rebound. Okay. And it's a Mrmic sport. It's a Mrmic tournament. But we saw how destinies change because of ball couple balls. Didn't fall in for central Florida. Okay. Tom Izzo having said all that Tom Izzo headache as he slayed his own dragon, which is Duke basketball yesterday. I thought he had a great day as specially in the moments when it mattered the most at the end, and you know, it is good for basketball. Mike, Tom is not going anywhere. Michigan state's not going anywhere. If you look at how many final fours that he has led them to he almost like a lot of these the best coaches there's like a rhythm to it every four years or so he gets to a final four. And maybe a couple years in a row, if he's got some of the returning players, then then, you know, MRs out in round sixteen or gets to gets eliminated in eight and then this back again, and it's a good thing that he had this win overdue. I know doesn't feel that way. But you don't want any one of these elite coaches to be, you know, one twelve and one and thirteen I against the other one but shocking number. It was really I wasn't aware of it until this year. Mitch it really is a stunning number. Yeah. I think the the announcer for CBS said something to so about like the rivalry that you have with coach K goes rivalry one eleven rivalry trouncing. And he's right. And believe me he thinks about it. He doesn't he doesn't obsess because he knows he's got a successful program. But by the way, can we go back to the fact that this is what college the committee brought upon themselves because in my view. Both of these teams should be in the final four both of these teams should be in the final four, and they should not have been in the same bracket ever. Michigan state was was was the highest ranking number two. Clearly now, they've proven it by what they've done, and you don't end up getting, you know, the premier show that way. Where would they have been though, where would they have been put where you put Michigan and have Gonzaga be there alternate, and they would have beaten, Gonzaga. Before we go on guys. Let me say this about hair club. Our sponsor. 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They finally beat Duke. And I said is there was one and eleven and the guy next to me just turns to me dead panic goes tune eleven now. And and that's how quick that narrative changed, and you know, this emits you you watch us fans whole career, okay? If they win the second one does elevate you in college basketball and even with all the final fours and everything the second one moves you into the first not that he's not in the first class cabin. But you know, what? I mean, the second one is like winning a second Super Bowl is a quarterback. And and that's a reason to. You know that I'm sure that this is particularly meaningful for Michigan state pants, and he and I think he needs to get this one. I like their chances definitely like their to Saturday and like their chances of ultimately winning. We'll talk about that later on this week when we set the thing up, but I think it's time for him to get that second one. You know, he he's been well lot ten final fours. I know you know, you should win to your right to twos different than ones the same thing for Super Bowl teams and quarterbacks whatever one is like a whole load of people who to freak things happen. But he's not a freak. He's a regular. He does this on purpose. And he will now this team. I mean there there are wins. And then there are wins. Yeah. He's to in eleven but this one counted like a couple of games because this will always be remembered not only because it took place nearly eight but he stopped the juggernaut of Zion. Williamson and this freshman team that every was the story of college basketball all year and everybody came close. And in hindsight, we can all look back on Duke dukes run here and say, hey, they could have been knocked out the round before or the round before quite easily that the basketball got smiled on them. Both times. And they weren't giving them anything this time. There wasn't gonna be any freak pass bounced off a guy's head or miss free throw or anything like that. Michigan state deserved to win and Duke deserve to lose given the way that they played it a couple Kitano. But can I say one other thing, by the way, and it didn't factor into the game because it didn't cost Michigan state that play in the corner. We couldn't tell who it went off on. That was a foul on Duke that she he was all over the kid on the ground. And of course, you knew they weren't going to give him a whistle there bub. You're the basketball historians. I Williamson now joins a long list of players, and I tried to look this up in advance of this not not the least of which Cairo Irving because he's from his own school. But guys like Kevin Durant. Paul George and others who never saw a final four and went on to become a great collide Leonard and other players NBA players, and he'll be an MBA name when but when time look. Back on it. He never he. He will not have seen the final four. What what does that? Even the guy on television in the studio show. Kenny Smith was terrific college basketball player for North Carolina had a fine career in the NBA. He was unique North Carolina player in his time. He played four years at North Carolina. Never went to final four. It's not, you know. You know? Phenomenon rare thing anymore. If you only talking about one year, you know, so it's very different than than it wasn't in those other this they come in flesh out flash across the sky in our on our eyesight for one year. No, that's also that's just it's just something worth noting. But I mean, it one years one year and by the way, by the way, and when you talk about a miss make sport and a mismatch event. What conversation are we having today about the final four and scien- and Duke if Kenny goi- doesn't make a, you know, doesn't get a wide open look, but then knock it down. No, no question. That was a great play and play. I mean, it was not involved cash. Winston. He was not an option to score on that. They talked to you know, all the math the words. The first thing was to get the ball down to Tillman down low. And if he didn't have the shot get it out to going to top of the key and have them make it he's a fifth year senior he's already he's in his. Masters program. He's like us going to school. And I guess is you know, number one. Everybody's gonna be keying on Winston. So he'll be he'll be far more open. But who does he end up making the shot over sign Williams? I mean, he shoots over him. So if there's ever going to be I'm sure he's going to collect that photo for the rest of his life. And if there's ever a moment that sort of says what it was about. That's what it was about. You know, take a minute now at the salute. They're big men who were the the offensive lineman in the trenches doing the doing the necessary work, you know, against the Duke frontline as well. This was a true. I know how cliche but how true a true team effort in? And they really they all the parts complimented each other so nicely in in this game for Michigan state. Yeah. Tillman is really good. Winston obvious. Goings is really good. They had this. Mcquaid who who had the circus shot of the year when he was going in? And you know, an off the backboard is he was going backwards. And they're just one of those teams only played seven guys to hold game and gay Brown played three minutes. So really it was a six six guy rotation and they beat Duke. And by the way, here's a number to put down that almost never happens. Duke out rebounded them forty two thirty one nobody out rebounds. Michigan state. I'm sure they're going to have guerrilla drills all day long today now on account of that. Because is a hate when he gets out rebounded. And they still won the game. So either this was a they they didn't go deep it also. So that's just the way that game with. I tell you something else about that unique about this gang because I just about to talk about the rebounding Mitch, you know, many free throws Michigan state made in this basketball game two two. Bob till the last team in an elite game elite eight game against the number one seed made two free throws and gets to keep playing. Very interesting. Duke didn't commit any. They were the only three thousand they weren't even position to put them on the line in the end didn't have enough. Ow. Basic buddy, Frank Sola tweeted out during the game to win Duke has one foul, and I tweeted back and said, it seems like less than that. Just that's one of the. That's one of the great. Anomalies about basketball college basketball. You know, the of the fouth thing that you need to have you know, you can't use that strategy. If you don't have enough foul, Silas. We we spend our whole podcast talking about this game. But moving known, okay. Everybody's got it to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. But here's an idea. Let's have save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. And the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything? All you have to do is go to Geico dot com in fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Extra money in your pocket. It may just be the most rewarding to do you do today. Let me talk about to me the play of the turnament. And it speaks to what we're saying about savvy point guards at this time of year the play that Kaik Clark made for Virginia a five nine by the way guard when everybody. Just saying keep dribbling and take fire up a three I may be off on my math. Mitch and Bob that was a fifty foot. No look pass to Mahdia. The be okay. And the shot was wonderful that you know, Leitner like shot but much like Leitner shot a Camelot happen by if that pass is not made and Bob and Mitch it was just a basketball play. You cannot draw it up you either have that in you or you don't the vision the courage to throw that pass to know how little time there was all my God that was my favorite tournament. I have a category each year. But this has been going on for me for about fifteen years at the tournament. And I always try to identify player who I would like to adopt. And this year, the winners are as a tie. Winging two of them home. The he's one of them. I already I circled him identified him. I love this kid. The other one is Jared Harper of Auburn we're going to talk about, but they haven't common of courses is the fact that the first digital their height is five nine six. Anyway, you're so right about the thing. And I it it was just a. George is the greater Fred's used to say cash Winston can ride on the running board too. I mean him behind, you know, we're no point. Yeah. What I'm trying to find guys who aren't the clear star that don't interim in my car. Let's go to the end of the play because if Keady follows the normal custom of ninety nine point nine percent of people he would dribble the ball once. To run out. And he didn't he McKay old it because he was the mastered. The all-time master of not putting the ball on the floor in circumstances. He Mikhail that ball into the basket from that distance. Well, I not dribbling. And so give him credit to that was a marvelous collaboration. Once again, we are talking about. It's never sexy so gets lost. But we are talking about fortunes and victories that ended because of free throws. If Ryan Klein makes that second free throw. We're not talking about this at seventy one sixty seven with seventeen seconds. Let me gotta have two possessions. And this whole thing is the different stories same perhaps if Duke had made the second free throw instead of the first free throw or set of missing the second one, and then the deliberate. I mean, how many times did you try to practice? This yo hitting the front of the rim or hitting the back of the rim. Trying to miss you could see what happened with Duke you try to miss. It can go in all those things had to happen per. Perfectly with tiger Rome on free throw line missing. Exactly the way you're supposed to in the ball down in the past half. The by the way, I Mitch I don't know this who kept the ball. I mean that was part of this to who tap. I bought I think it I think it was the most likely him. But yes, likely I think it was him. I'd have to go back and look at it because that's that's an element to the story to. Okay, all work, it all work, Mike, and you're so right, Bob like instead of dribbling and trying to dunk or that's a really hard shot because you have to control yourself, your, you know, you have to just put the right light touch on it. You can't overdo it. Terrible. Terrible nodal that distances is the nightmare distant six feet. It's not a layup. And it's not a shot, and you don't have form extension and anyone will tell you that played basketball. That's a that's a difficult. Facing up. Yes. Very thin. What we're talking about with point guards, by the way, and Bod. Okay. The kid who made the play did not score a basket in the game. He made two free throws. He had five assists. But boy, one of those five change the history of Virginia basketball. I want to say this about that game. First of all Virginia has that awful reputation. Well, deserved of playing terribly slow and half court, and they're not fun to watch etcetera etcetera. But when they had to back and forth it with the most incredible. I think performance that I've seen by Edwards of guard. It certainly in this tournament that was I mean, what did they say? He had more points in four games than than like the record for for six forty two points. He was a blur. His three point shooting was out of this world and trying to keep up with that was tough and Virginia. Basically did it with. Guy. They were remember it was back and forth back and forth on on on exciting three point shooting, which they ended up doing and hats off to Edwards who I don't know what his plans are. And I don't know what is what is career is going to be. And I don't know Bob how translates to the NBA's not tall, but he's really fast. And he can he he's he's the closest thing I've seen to Steph curry in terms of shooting with that kind of aplomb from you know, I don't care thirty five feet thirty eight feet forty to fifty seven. I it's all the same. It's a flick of the wrist at the last one was going down to a dead. I know it was contested. But when you that ball was was in the Bob it was in the cylinder thought it was going down to there's a there's a definite roster spot for him somewhere shooting. This is this is the price commodity in the NBA. These days is shooting the outside shooting the three point shooting. And he's he's definitely will find a spot somewhere. I would be surprised. And I guess he's going to come as junior, which means he's going to get out and then on to game. I thought that game one of the top flight and. Say games in recent years. I thought it was a wonderful game. I really into weekend got. I mean, we've all collectively got. I'm frightened think how many collective years we've watched tournament. But I know for me I've been watching it regularly since the first one was televised. Fulltime for me, it was sixty three. Loyola and Atty. Okay. So the this is one of the great weekends ever. This was this weekend was fantastic. And I go back to Carson Edward for because I've been thinking about this. And I you know, I was there when Jack Evans had his big forty point game and Kentucky one. Okay. I can't remember a losing performance. Like that. I can't I know that there must have been forty point efforts. Like this certainly not with ten threes. But that was one of the great, you know, loose put nothing jumping out of me, Mike, and I'm sure probably think about you know, if I think it'll be. The five seconds after we say goodbye good. But that's a very good point. I can't I can't think of anything of that stature right off the top of my head that that did not result in the w for the team now. Well, I mean when you score that many points, you know, that that's that's. It's forty two right? We had forty forty one baskin's one basket less than Michigan scored against Texas Tech. Okay. The whole team of Michigan scored a good sex. So yes, chances are if you're going to score forty two points your team is going to win. But I thought that that I agree with you. I think that was one of the better games in modern NCAA tournament history, especially since because of what it meant, you know, you can get some fantastic second round games. But it does matter what it determines it also reminds us that for all of the talk about Virginia because let's face it after they got eliminated by number sixteen see last year, everything about Regina was filtered through that. Prism are. Yeah. Well, but look what happened to him last year. Well, see them number one this year. Do you realize going into this tournament as by the way, the only number one seed to survive, and and don't we look foolish? But I mean in hindsight here, we're talking about a CIA. Tournament and it ends up anything. But chalk in the final four. They have lost Mike Imbaba six games in the last two years. Six games in the last two years and several were Duke and one and then that freak one last year in in the start of the tournament six games last two years. They've lost going into the final four. So if somebody doesn't make them a prohibitive favorite. I it's only because they're they're still in the bit of a five from what happened last year, but they play a pretty damn tough brand basketball something before this is random thought. But the the perfect person asked us thank God, you're here about for many reasons, but this is one. Michigan state school does the average Michigan state sports loving alum or Sparty follower. Prefer football or basketball? Head to put a gun at our head, which one has been Vesco. Okay. So it definitely okay? I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. But probably because they've had to you know, over the years. They just notwithstanding the one or two years that dantonio done something there have been a lot of fallow years of Michigan state football. But Michigan say basketball from judge Heathcote to Tom Izzo not stayed at a high level not too many people rhapsodised about biggie Monday. And what you telling me now, you know, George Carlin. Okay. Okay. Because I thought, you know, my one of my first thoughts when the game was over was, okay. We've got four final four participants three of whom were more football reentered schools than than the other and the other one I'm not sure about and that's Virginia. Certainly Auburn of. I know everything that's happening down tumors corner. But I still think they'd rather win football championship. And I would think any school in Texas. Rather win the football championship. But but that just interesting Virginia. I don't know. 'cause they're never know. Great Virginia football legacy. There's a lot more basketball going for it than than than ever has been in football. So I suppose there they probably are more. Visit interesting Mike how how different we're talking now than we were last week going into the these two rounds about underdogs and chalk and all the rest of it. And part of what we said still holds true. There's no sixteen seeds or twelve or any of that stuff. But it's not it's not number ones and twos. Waltzing in here. We got number five one three and a five one to time five to the five in the three are are unlikely. Would we not have to say Auburn, especially after losing their star player and Texas Tech who got number three seed? But I don't think anybody thought was going to was going to knock off the teams that they did. So you got to, you know, legendary legend, but Connick programs and to that. Have have never been there. And that's pretty interesting for funnel. Yeah. Mitch. Here's my thing. Okay. Because we talked a lot about Texas Tech at the start of this thing. And we all we all agreed that they were going to be in these games, whoever they play because of the way they play the best defense. They just play the best defense and en- games. Like we saw the weekend. There comes a point where you gotta get stop. Okay. But but to me, the bigger surprises, Auburn, I thought Kentucky even the kit came back, and I thought Kentucky, and I know how much Calipari and Bruce Pearl. Mitch those teams don't like each other those two coaches really don't like each other. Okay. And I thought this just be a continuance of the the narrative that Cal always gets him. Whether he's at Tennessee or Auburn that was a shocking result. But man, oh, man guys watching the end of Kentucky. Auburn doesn't that look like just about every game that Kentucky ever loses at this time of year and a bunch of bad decisions all the way into the last seconds when they forced to shots and couldn't get either one of the basket. No one compliment you when their paycheck is correct, nobody does. But make one mistake, and you risk alienating your entire workforce. With Kronos, we make sure your payroll is done, right. The first time from punch to paycheck embedded checklists. Simplified workflows a single source of truth HR, payroll talent and timekeeping in. One unified system. All would they proven implementation approach and simplified transparent pricing. Learn more at Cronos dot com slash payroll, Cronos, workforce innovation that works. Well, I'll give you my quick opinion. But I wanted Bob go first of Mexico's, but it's pretty simple getting Jared Harper's way. Okay. Don't don't let the guy slice through your right down your middle over and over and over again, get somebody on down the lane and down down the lane and the biggest moment of the game. Yeah. I mean that was their number one mistake repeating their mistake over and over again, he had twenty six points. And at least half of them were literally lay ups right off the off the glass that he just blew through everybody. And if you don't have a defense for that, you're doing something wrong. Well, he's he's tough kid, really. One of these guys didn't know anything about a mother than the name and watching them in the tournament. You know, he's going back on meeting blue ribbon before the season to see what they were saying about him. It's an oh, I should've known more about Jared Harper. But boy, he's he's a tough kid. I think about him as a doubling up as a running back in the off season. You know, there's no really I mean, he's got the expulsion expe explosion. At one of the thing about Kentucky. When did forget about three point shots. They simply abandoned shooting from the outside. I mean, how many times how many times are? They just gonna pounded into PJ Washington. I became a one man team. You know? And I'm surprised that got it to overtime. I mean, they were they were doing nothing, but feeding him nobody else was doing anything. They were making mistakes Calipari his credit afterwards. We totally outcoached and outplayed, and we were still in it. You know, like he was surprised that they were. And I was to this was one of I mean, considering they lost KiKi. I mean, he's not like another guy. No, he's no he's guy. He's washington. I mean, I don't know how they did. I know how sometimes you lose a guy in the middle of the game. And you just pick up effort, and you ride the emotion and you win the game. And that's how they got to the elite eight but to start the game without him with one day's preparation for Kentucky and two I think thoroughly beat them even though it took overtime. And you know, it may not look like that in a box score. But they were the better team out there. Most of the night, that's pretty impressive. I I don't know if they come back to earth, they ride this all the way. Through their good. I mean, they can be good. I it's they did win the SEC tournament. That's you know, people with KiKi with o'keith. Now. I was speaking to my good friend and the person I go to when I need to know what's going on in college basketball. Mr Richard hoops Weiss and before the game. And and I said, you know, how big is your key loss. He said there's a this team is deep their deep. They're very they have idle. What of good players? They'll be okay. That's pretty much what he said. He didn't predict victory said they have enough good players to to to circumvent by the way. There is a headline in the Currier journal the liberal career journal today that says is Calipari system broken. So maybe really. I take long did it. I I mean, it's. Yes. This is from I think it's Joe he'll start. Yes. The coach who has built his legacy at Kentucky by recruiting more one and done players than any other program has blamed youth and inexperience once again, that's a fair point. That's kind of hard to argue with that you can't you can't say these damn kids because you're the one who has invented this style of coaching. I got to say where it here boost Pearl. Getting a final four is is fascinating. And find juicy on a couple of levels. You know, one is, you know, his his tattered history. You know, is that is that the love Bobby tell make I'm offering up that you guys. Can you know, we we collectively sketchy sketchy a better word, Bob, Scott, his that's a good one. My tattered sketchy dodge our friends across the to his history. Just got a dodgy history. Doesn't he? Yes. Okay. Yes. That's going to be brought up. How can it not be especially in a year when he's got an assistant coach who's, you know, he's not no person might not going to jail. The person. I forget what a plea how to person get judicata. All right. But it's not closed yet. It's got all that got the reason why you had to leave Tennessee in the first place. And yet if you know, Mike we have a dog in this hunt. Mike you, and I because you and me because he is in fact, Boston College nineteen eighty-two a fascinating human interest story manager for Dr Tom Davis. Yes. Not a player as become is become this high level coach. No, I know. I know people by a big cluding what I've got three sons one of them texted me and said Boston College guy Cohen final four with somebody else. And I'll tell you what guys. I mean, the people of the four of them. And I don't know Tony Bennett. I don't know. I like a love Tom Izzo don't know Chris beard, but I'm telling you of the one that you'd most want to go out and have a beer with you know, would be boost peril. Boost pro is a character. So he's and he's going to take Minneapolis by storm. Bob, all the if you could get that lamp shade off time as head. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I mean, only if you know how he gets after a couple of shots, tequila and. Reference crispier. We gotta talk about this. This is a disciple of Robert Montgomery night. And and we and Mitch again, we did talk about this defense. And he I heard him today somewhere saying that they forget what percentage of their practice time is spent playing defense. I was I am eno- way shocked that they wrote that all the way here. I mean, they remember we were when we when we last spoke we were heading into the Michigan game against them. And I said, you know, I won the fifty winds, and and it was absolutely true in Michigan. Never got the fifty forty four points. I mean, it was ridiculous that Michigan game. I think they had ten points. You know with like four minutes to go in the first half. So they're now they're gonna play Michigan say it'll be interesting to see the Texas Tech and knock off the entire state of Michigan with that defense. But here's the thing about that. And I thought that John beeline said it best he said you can't practice against that. He said we had one, you know, a couple of days to prepare to. But you can't simulate what you're going to get with them. It's a lot easier to simulate an offense a player like if you're going to go up against not big guy. And they toss it inside all the time too. You can get your big guy on your as your practice squad and kind of pretend. But how you gonna pretend that defense? You don't know that defense unto you are facing? And by that point, it's too late the way that they shift the way that they recover. And no normally when you boxing's up in the middle like frequently doing don't let you get the ball inside. What's the answer, you shoot from the outside except that they're really fast, and they recover and so they're often in your face when you're shooting from the outside. So you don't end up with the open threes that you think you're going to get because they're they're jamming everything inside there on you on those streets, and you cannot practice against it. So no matter what time is does all week. He can't maybe she had to go higher Michigan. They're not doing anything. He should hire them to come up and say, hey, what's the program need for a week? You know, how much money will it cost me to get you guys to pretend you're Texas Tech because that would be the best practice for a team that's going to face them. Hey, when we were talking about experience one thing to note here about Texas Tech who who had some severe graduation. Well, they had I don't know if it's graduation or the personnel losses. From last year when they went twenty seven games got to the eight last year lost Villanova people. Let's forget is that two of their starting starters are those the now prize possessions, a commodities, I should say college basketball graduate seniors graduate student transfers bay. Matt Mooney from South Dakota, and Tariq Owens from Saint John's to we go. And so we got a we got a lot of with him in the shop locking expertise and he bought away led the big east and shop locking twice while he was at Saint John's, but these are this is the way the world in college basketball to talk about formulas earlier amidst this is so common and so much way of doing business now that they reloaded by you know, pulling into experienced guys and here they are. All right. Listen, we will we will look ahead to next weekend. On Thursday sports, reporters podcasts is interesting as the elite eight weekend was guys in college basketball. How about? The I just the first weekend of the baseball season. Okay. The Red Sox go to Seattle. They're one of three because they're starting pitchers who barely pitched in spring training have given up. Mitch listen to this astounds like Tigers numbers. Okay. Except the Tigers are way better than this right now. Twenty eight runs over fifteen innings so in in the same weekend in the American League, east, the Yankees lose two out of three ABC home to Orioles team that has been compared to a triple team and the Red Sox you have you know, had to go out west to start this season. And have a chance to start off like three and seven have looked awful. And the only game they won against the Mariners. They came from six to one behind it. Stunning. It's totally stunning. The Mike saluting to the fact that in an attempt to manage the the workload and the idea of two years in a row in the playoffs. And and all that and then considering sales for to start with. They pitch very few serious innings in spring training. They being the entire rotation. And and looks like they're not, you know, the position is that. There aren't ready there. You know, it's going to every game. Guess what? They're not ready. They're not ready. And so how long it's going to take. Now that go to Oakland. Oakland is no pushover. We know Dave price makes his first start of the season after a light workload himself. So maybe he'll be the guy that looks of the like this plan is working and Alex Mitch Alex Cora is adamant that they know what they're doing. They you know, two years ago the Red Sox. The big thing was the pitchers were out of bullets by the end of the season. Well, we're going to see because again, the the Yankees, and I say this to and we'll get to them on another day. Don't go to sleep on the Tampa Bay rays. Okay. Because they won ninety games last year. And they're waiting to pounce if either the reds. Socks or the Yankee stumbled was suppose, it has something to do with what kind of cushion, you think you can build up on the far end by the time you're done because if it doesn't win as a winning a loss as a loss, and and and if you're tagging up losses in April that you're going to need in September to make sure that you have that first place spot because let's face it. They are in the in the division in the most peril of having a great record and ending up playing one game for your season witness the Yankees last year. So you do not want to finish second in the AL east. And so every game matters think count even played in March Mitch I'm almost positive that they will count if it's a one game or two game lead at the end of September. So he says, quote, it's easy to second. Guess now. What we did. Nobody second second-guessed last year. It's a program you have to be disciplined. So that's the way I see it. If people think the pitchers didn't start too many games that they didn't have too many innings. They should get back. To what we did last year in spring training. I mean, we played until October twenty eighth and the previous year when I got here. Everybody was talking about how they ran out of bullets etcetera etcetera. He's he's standing by. And he's saying the famous bull Durham line. It's a long season and you've got to trust it. And I guess when you started having ERA of thirteen point to you gotta juiston. Meanwhile, their general manager can can step aside from this for a second say as far as our bullpens concerned, didn't I tell you? So because the bullpen has been exemplary. It's been fine bullpen who. Which was the only major issue that people felt about this team going into the season all the other basis where properly covered they felt except for the bullpen. And and so what happens to the heard the numbers on the stars? And the bullpen terrific, which just what? What does show? Day. Even yesterday the way they can hit. They nearly came all the way back from ten to three yesterday on. No, they don't they don't quit there. And here's the other thing that clearly already in just three games, Bryce Harper has earned back all three hundred don't you? Don't you? Don't you? I mean well. Win wins a win. I mean, they've they've won. So you know, it's his presence is making them win apparent. They're the only team with an unblemished slate after just four games played into the season. Though. It's you know, there's a lot of before we end here. And we're talking about the beginning of the baseball season. How about the end of the basketball season for LeBron James as if it wasn't bad enough that he's gonna miss the playoffs. He's just not gonna play period. And now the Lakers are spinning this that this was our idea Luke Walton said he wants to play, but it's one of those things where the medical staff just finally said, look, it's just not worth it anymore. Let's make sure you have a healthy summer. Okay. Whether this is LeBron James is decision. Like a I don't wanna play garbage time. Okay. And and or whether this is the Lakers protecting their investment if what they're saying about him being hurt to a degree and having a sketchy groin injury. I'm gonna. Go back to what I said and next to your two years from now, I'm going to go back to that podcast where I said to you guys groin is not to be taken lightly at that age. I would never doubt any crimes I will registered Mitch. We will if the subject agent groins. He's going on young groin. He's growing guy. You're the colleges. Groin caskey. Oh, so if they are telling the truth about this being, you know, something that they're concerned about not only is that something to worry about in the years to come. It will factor into the minds of players who are considering switching teams and going to play with LeBron James in LA. No, one will say it out loud. But they will say in private conversations to one another. Hey, where do you think the kings? You think he's done? You think he's you know, as we down go via sign up for three years over they're going to be, you know, dealing with the guy who's out every every couple of weeks with another injury. That's how players talk it's a cutthroat business. You can even say that about a guy is good as him this'll give LeBron chance to go out. And scout, you know. Last and my last thing about this. Okay. Two points about this who would have thought that at this time on the sports calendar. The only joy in basketball for Magic Johnson would be watching his alma mater, play basketball. Okay. And who would have thought at the start of the season that the Los Angeles Clippers would make themselves into a far more attractive LA destination than than the team with which they share that building. Well, it's been it's been a while for magic enjoying MSU more than the Lakers. That's just more of the same. All right. Let's go to our parting shots. Bob. Ryan wanted to lead us off. Well, guys, you know, the Milwaukee Bucks of the record in the NBA. Did you know that do you realize what it means to the basketball fans in this town that town I mean well since knocking off the hawks in a game five elimination game in nineteen eighty nine. The bucks of gotten out of the first mound. Once in the last thirty years, they got to Eastern Conference finals in two thousand one hundred George Karl I forgot about that. And then they faded away into NBA irrelevancy. They're less good decade was the eighties. And even then they were classic be students who drank their milk to the bottom of the glass looked both ways before crossing and studied their asses off only to get a BI those. Buck teams would just not as good as to seventy Sixers Celtics pistons, but they were a lot better than what followed. This is. A proud franchise that got a title in third year of its existence. There was to south cinder guy. You dad? We're grandpa. Anyway, these bucks are young and exciting. But now they are burdened by expectation that title of forty eight years ago, we made the only one they've ever had good luck fellas. Zion. Williamson will go into the NBA draft. Now, probably is the first pick and hopefully have the career in the NBA that everybody imagines that he will he'll throw down dunks and become a folk hero for his new team in a new city and hopefully lead a life in professional basketball full of adventure. And maybe even he will win the title. He won't win now at Duke, and you know, what no matter how much money he makes in the NBA and how many titles he does win. He will remember the loss to Michigan state when he's old. He will remember when he's old because you never forget the big game you lost. I remember asking my dear friend, Tim Carver one time quite innocently. How long it took him to get over the nineteen sixty eight World Series when his cardinals were up three games to one on the Tigers. And ended up losing Tim was getting ready for a Mets game had his notes on the table in front of him, and he stopped and he looked over his reading glasses at me. And he quietly said you never get over it. Zion will be a big star in the pros, but not much bigger than the star of college basketball. He became the season when he did everything except when the big game Arizona coach cliff Kingsbury as a pretty big decision to make his team holds the number one pick in the upcoming draft and people are debating whether he in the front office will use that pick for Kyle Murray. Even though they have Josh Rosen. It's a massive decision. The kind of could affect the franchise for years. So fans might be a little nervous after learning of kings Bury's knowledge of the rules on a recent podcast. Sean McVeigh coach of the Rams revealed that not long ago, he in Kingsbury who were friends were having dinner with Patrick Mahomes, but homes, you know, is the KC quarterback McVay had a friend sent him a text under the name Roger Goodell. The text read I can't believe. Your dinner with Kingsbury Mahomes, you know, better than this. This is tampering. You're both losing picks. According to McVeigh Kingsbury turned ghost white. He started panicking and saying they needed to call the front office people at the cardinals. That's when McVay fessed up and told him the whole thing was a joke. You can't lose picks for having dinner as NFL pranks go. It was pretty good. But as a confidence booster for cardinals fans. I don't know. I'd be a little jumpy at how much my new coach was so well jumpy good luck with that. Number one pick. Arizona just make sure everybody especially the coach knows the rules. That's going to do it. For today's program. We do this podcast every Monday and Thursday. 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