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53 - One Year Anniversary Special
"Welcome fours talk, or we're not really horse. We just like word play hello. Welcome Horse Talk Whore I'm Sharon and I'm Melinda. Very special episode. This is our one year anniversary episode. A lot has happened in our life is and also in the world. Since we first started doing this podcast a year ago, I can't believe it's been that already. We've thought it might be fun to do an all encompassing Trivia episode over the past year. We have both watched a lot of horror movies. Crime shows read a bunch of true crime. Books listened to a ton of PODCASTS, involving and horror, so this will be trivia involving all those things horror, true crime serial killers. We'll see how much we've learned over the past year, or maybe we've just become dumber woven out. As we've said before, we are not experts on any of these topics. We just enjoy them so once again. We will probably embarrass ourselves big time with our lack of knowledge, but at least it'll be good for a laugh, and I definitely have new problem laughing at myself. I'm honestly just anticipating a lot of yelling because we're still doing this virtually so calling on each other for answers, it's GonNa. Be Really interesting. But yeah, if you told me a year ago, not only followed through starting this podcast, but we were still. Especially during flipping quarantine, I don't know that anyone WanNa call that I. Know I wouldn't have but it's been really awesome in a way, because like even. As stressful as things have been either on our personal lives or in the world. It's been super nice to have this to fall back on is something to look forward to and to work on, so thank you to everyone for listening to us. Be Dorks, allowing us to keep doing this will either further embarrass ourselves now or maybe surprise ourselves that we actually learned something over this past year. Probably not, but we'll definitely make each laugh, and we hope you all left alone with us or at US I mean we don't care humidity's virtue. This is true. Yes, be four weeks into it. All of our past trivia episodes involved US drinking, beer or Beers many years. While we do. Trivia and we have each chosen a beer to drink during this episode, so I'm just. GonNa Start with mine. I am drinking victory, sour monkey, sour triple. ooh, which is nine point, five percent alcohol by volumes should probably drink the slow. Or GonNa real dumb real quick. And this comes from. Victory. Brewing Company in Downington Pennsylvania. Nothing and it's good. It's not like to use our. It's got. A nice sour taste to it with kind of a more ale. Finish to it, so it's good summer beer because it is a hot fucking day to day. It is mindy. What are you drinking? I'm drinking this awesome as stone, double APA. I actually grabbed it because I really like stone brewery, but. An F. you've seen them or if you should look them up, but they're out of Richmond Virginia and their logo is kind of like this double anyway, but this particular. UNFILTERED double period special that they made is literally FM L.. But it stands for fear movie lions at least according to them, and it's eight point five out percent alcohol by volume so I'm right behind you there Sharon. What are? Earlier in the year, APD or something or ABC News, ABC News It's eight point five ABC News, but Yeah Stone Berea out of Richmond Virginia. Am L. Fear Movie Lions, but I also thought it was kind of a to where the world is right now so there we go good choice are as always. We have Spencer as our quizmaster Spencer. Thank you for being our quizmaster again today. Thank you for inviting me into your lovely home. which is also your lovely home? Do you. Have anything you would like to say before you humiliate mini I. Know. Let's get to the humiliation I have a drink to it is ACE CIDER? It's a new one I. think it's new. It's guava flavored. Very sweet and tasty Israeli tasty, another good summer drink I don't have the can in front of me otherwise I would tell you the ABC us. Sat Up. Okay, are you ready? We are ready, so according to tradition, the first anniversary gift is paper, which is great because you can just give your loved one a piece of paper which you probably have lying around somewhere. There's probably a piece of paper in the garbage. Just go dig it out and hand it to the one you love, but in these modern times I guess someone decided that the new first anniversary gift should be o'clock. I've got a five o'clock shadow, so it's time to clock out Sharon's biological clock ticks for dogs. Let's Party and rock around the clock. Grab a drink because it's o'clock somewhere. We're going to wind the clock back to sometime in the last year because we are bringing back Trivia. Is it a fan of it? Is it a fan favorite? We have no idea because no one's ever said nothing. Although I could be wrong about that, but I think it is because you to seem to always have fun. And now the word clock looks really strange and sounds really strange so in Trivia for the clock inane. You will be racing against the clock. You will only have ten seconds to come up with your answer. If you fail. The other person will have a chance to steal to see who goes first I will flip this clock and Sharon. You'll call it in the air ready set. Go heads. No I'm sorry it was tails. You lose a point. What a terrible way to start the game! All Right Mindy. Are you ready? I Guess Oh God. Okay Oh shit! I know we're dead. Okay I'm writing down negative one for share. Is Not Fair. Okay Anne Thought Paul I maybe I should say. This is a horror i. Any thought Paul was a great talent. and. She later realized she loved the man as well. What did any due to Paul to keep him always in the movie misery, Oh fuck while she I don't remember it was called, but she put the lag between his ankles and smashed him. What did she smash with? A hammer maybe. Close, Wait a second. Can I steal this? If I have a better answer, a better know if it's close enough, that's. A Mallet I'll go with it says. Both of Paul's angles with a sledgehammer. Her and it was called hobbling. It doesn't say anything about hobbling so I should at least go to zero for that okay fair. For saying hobbling Sharon gets a point, which brings her back down zero. Right Sharon. Are you ready for your horror? I hope so this nineteen eighty two film showed a family walking and entering a motel room that they checked into. They all went inside and closed the door after a few moments, the husband slash father came back outside while pushing the motel rooms television set outside the room, named this film. Poltergeist dammit mini. It's my fucking terms. Are you answering? But you did get get that right and mindy chimed in. So you get an extra point just for that. Oh I can next report. I thought you said he gets an extra point. Get an extra point because mindy thin as well. I didn't say anything though I just said Fuck you, you. Didn't know I. didn't I said Fuck you. Heard it well listen the rear when we listen. Listen to my recorder I. said I said Fuck you guys is what I said I didn't say puck. Maybe that's that's actually it, says the same syllables poltergeist. Older guys might have sounded like our asthma. Poltergeist fucking all right. Will you still have an extra point so mindy? We are back to you. We are going to serial killers by I I. Don't do well under pressure knowing there's. Anyway perfect, that's exactly what we want. What did six of? Constanza does known victims have in common. Church Costanzo I was just GonNa say they all were angry at Newman. That would be Jerry Not George Costanza. I. Don't know who that is so I. Don't know, but I'm curious share and has a chance to steal. Can You repeat the question? What did six of Constanza does known victims have in common. I'm. I'm going to say they were all Brunette. Incorrect, they were drug smugglers Burnett drugs. But they both could. Okay! Do, we know. What do we have any way of knowing like what that was like? That Keller was yeah. It's called Google. Look it up. I think he was in Mexico Okay Sharon. Are you ready for your serial killer question Sir, what was the name of Ed Campers Mother? Oh, Shit. God Damn it I. Know This. I was just reading about him. Not Too long. I'm going to say I ended in like an e like clarinets or something like that. You are incorrect, but close, Mindy. Do you know the answer I? Don't but I'm GONNA Guess Claudette. No that is also incorrect. The answer is Clark. Very close you had the first half correct. Okay. I literally just saw a commercial for like a true story on the ID channel with him, but all he said was so I decided to kill one mother, but he didn't say. So I did I have no idea, but I just saw that before we started this. Mindy, you're going to get a horror movie question, okay? Scream was originally going to be called. What Oh fuck! Brock cancer. Do you like scary movies. Is that your answer. You want to go fishing bitch Yeah I I honestly don't know what it was originally called, but I'll say. I'll go with you like scary movies. Those are both very good options that you. Came with, but they're incorrect. Share and do you have a thought? Seem so obvious after the answer. I just going to say final girl. No the answer is scary movie. Which of course they ended up using for the spoof. Scream. Sharon. You're up. What Italian horror director created the musical score for dawn of the dead. I'm going to say Dario our agenda, but I don't think that's right. It is right. Oh ooh, how many Italian horror directors do you know of? There's a lot. There Is a real lot I. Didn't think. Dr Gento was. A composer as well as the director. So there you go I learned something new. Yes. You did Mindy Europe with a serial killer? Question Okay? On Tuesday, May Fifteenth Nineteen Ninety? The body of thirty eight year old Kathleen Brisebois was discovered in the Trent and Pines area near the Spokane River upon searching the area detectives discovered a crucial piece of evidence. What was it and this is for the spokane killer I don't know I'm so bad at this. I'm going to go with literature liters. I can't say that word I'm guessing and saying that word even. Libya ligature. Is that I it? Ligature, yours. Did you add an end in there? I totally know I think I added a D. or something. Anyway, my point is that's my answer. And my point is that you are incorrect. Share and do you have a thought I'm GONNA. Have you reread the question so that I can stall to think of an answer? Fair enough I like the way your brain works on Tuesday may Fifteenth Nineteen Ninety. The body of thirty eight year old, Kathleen, Brisebois was discovered in the Trent and Pines area near the Spokane River upon searching the area. Detectives discovered a crucial piece of evidence. What was it? I'm going to say a cigarette butts. ooh, you are incorrect. It was. Tire tracks. The answer though I I was just trying to put on my FORENSIC FILES CAP RIGHT! And think about some of the things that they use on the show to catch the killer. Good thought, but it didn't help all right Sharon. What is the date of the first attack by son of SAM? The exact date. Shit Day Montier. ooh Well I. Think I was definitely in the summer. Are we GONNA say. July fourth. Nineteen seventy six. Mindy, you get a chance to steal very close Sharon very close. It was that sarcasm, actually clone Oh. You were actually pretty close. I'll say July seventh, one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy six. Mindy is a little bit closer. It was July twenty nine ninety six man. The fact that you got the month and the year is pretty impressive. Do I get a half a point for that? You both get a half a point. She just basically you off of what I said because you said at school. Whatever you're fighting with me, takes away your. Someone sleeping on the couch today. You because you fall asleep on the couch almost every night, I the New England a lot lately myself. All Right Mindy it's horror movie time. which film that starred Danny, Aiello and Garrett? was about victims who became addicted to a deadly ice cream type substance. Oh my God. I don't know someone to go with the candy corn. The cotton candy from killer clowns from outer space. It's now. We're looking for the name of the movie I don't know. And time is already up completely. botch this one. Sharon, do you want to steal? Over is I'm just going to say I think Minis Gotten dumber in the past. Shut up all right. Over there. I'm just GONNA. Go with the BLOB. I duNNo. A little bit closer in your answer. Then Mendis it was the. The stuff I've never heard of that movie the stuff. I think I've heard of it, but I've never seen you heard of the stuff. I've heard the stuff, but not in relation to movies. If you know what I'm saying. Alright Sharon. This is your horror movie question, which one of these horror flicks had to villains named billy, loomis and Stuart Macher, or Macho or major or Matcher I? Don't know how to say his name. The movies are forced of death. The Kiss Fright, night and scream. Scream. That was quick and you are correct. That was easy. You know some are easy summer hard. Mindy at serial killer time. Wise share Sharon's better at these. Okay, I got it. Let's go. Hey. You never know. This is about Jeffrey Dahmer. How did he kill the majority of his victims? Sorry I can. Only, sarcastic things are coming to mind, and now I'm like blocking out the actual answer because I want sharing answer it. I actually don't. Totally. Don't remember what he did I'll say. He strangled them. You are correct. Share in. Did you know that? Yeah. I think everybody knows as answer but me. No I was actually going to say I mean honestly he used a variety of things because some people he strangled, but then a lot of people he would drill holes in their head and pour acid into him, and they would eventually die. WHO's trying to examine be is but. They died instead because you can't make Zombie. So yeah, you learned that the hard way I wasn't. I wasn't exactly sure but good. Guess many good job. Thank you. I did not know it. Okay, here's your serial killer question. This is have you? Have you heard of kiss? Is that a person? Is that a serial killer? Anyway? The question is how old was Bela's wife. BELA'S WIFE! I'm guessing she's probably pretty young. I'm GonNa, say a sixteen. You're incorrect, Mindy, do you have a guess? I'll guess twenty two. Closer, but still wrong. twenty-five is the answer I was totally thinking twenty five. It well. You screwed one up. thinking it ain't saying it. All right now we are back to horror movies. I have two lists of horror movie questions I have some that are harder and some that are easier, so this is the easier list. Oh, Jesus curious. Mindy in George, Romero's Day of the dead. Who Was Zombie Tamed by Dr Frankenstein? Frankenstein no sorry. I. Don't know actually because I'm so sad to admit this, but I don't know that I've seen that original one. I've seen the remake. Is Not I don't know if this is the original one. Are we looking for an actual person's name or care an occupation? For the Zombie characters name. And Mindy. Moving onto share it to steal I have no idea. All through the house. Also a very good guess, but also incorrect the name of the Zombie is bub be ub like lobe. Like the cat'll. R.I.P, little, bub and also. For those of you are not regular. Listeners is a throwback or callback to our very first trivia episodes, so go check that episode out. Also. That's our Goto answer which I totally forgot to. US thank Sharon for that. Is, it might turn again. Yes, Sharon here is your question. In the movie tremors to aftershocks. What were the underground creatures called? Fuck well. I'm assuming they probably had the same name. As in the first tremors movie, which is the only one I've Seen Yeah I love that movie and now I Kinda WanNa Watch it. I'm. GonNa Call Them Shit. Fuck! Fuck incorrect, Mindy Shot Yeah I'm I've only seen the first one to so I'm trying to think and I think they just I. Don't remember what they call them in the first one, just those things. Under their links. fockers or A after he says it. Yeah, we're going to know. Yeah. Oh, and not necessarily I also think I only saw the first tremors movie, so I don't even know if they call them this. In the first movie, they call them in the second movie. Grab Lloyd's. Now. Remember gravelines Wade's being used in the first movie and I saw that a lot when I was little. Not Yeah weeded to my. Yeah I used to watch that kind of regularly because that movie was awesome, it's super funny. It's a good movie I like to really get maybe and it's. It's one of those horror movies where it's actually kind of care appropriate. Yes, we should watch that movie. We should watch that movie. Mindy here's your serial killer question which of the following serial killers kept the heads of his victims in a Freezer A. Billy the kid. Be Jeffrey Dahmer or see bt K.. I'M GONNA. Go Dahmer. She gets another Dammar question. She likes Dahmer what can I tell you. You're correct by the way he's a local boy. Right Oh. No, that's Casey's Shit. We have a lot of local boys here to be their local. Yes, he. He made some visits to the Chicago, area! I, also, I was going to say that I wasn't billy the kid right away because Sharon start laughing. You know what kind of a dumb ass. No, but like with bt K. it took me a second 'cause I was like I. Don't know that much about Btk, but then. All Right Sharon witch serial killer was known for beheading and dismembering his victims a bt K B, son of Sam or see Cleveland Torso Murderer. Why I'm going to say that Cleveland Torso Murderer even though I've never heard of him. And, maybe we should do an episode. Right only shit. Simply because of the description that you read to. Fitting. Yep You are correct and also the other two guys I think you know enough about probably didn't do that. Yeah, and and there's that Oh so yeah. Put a note in Spencer Megan out somewhere. ooh, we're going to put it on the list. put it out with. The Cleveland Torso killer murderer clear I. don't want to don't want to offend him again. No, no! Very pissed about that and he might murder your torso. Interesting I've not heard of him. Oh, I'm not either. I'm curious. Have some research to do now. Yeah I like it all right. Mindy in the movie scream. The killer plays a movie game with Casey Becker played by Drew Barrymore a question. About what horror movie does she answer wrong Friday thirteenth? You are correct. Sorry. We're GONNA give you options building a bunch of softballs. You Billy loomis. That was easy. Sharon a young family, and their dog are living in a new housing estate. There are paranormal happenings in the house. What movie is this? I'm going to say paranormal activity. The first one I am going to say you are wrong Whitman. Poltergeist. Yes, it is poltergeist another. Dog Yellow. They didn't have a dog. I thought they did have a dog. In the first one in the second one in the second one, they had a dog and the luckily the dog got taken to the vet and wasn't there when all the murders happened because that was for me. The most important part of the movie I could've sworn that there is a dog and the paranormal movie and it ran away. Nope, it's just the to the couple. Really fucked up. Really screwed the Pooch. Pun intended. Okay Mindy we are on back on serial killers. Okay? What is the main difference between a mass murderer and a serial killer? A A serial killer is more skilled. Be a serial killer. Let time pass between each murder and see a serial killer murders, all of the victims in a short period of time That's a weird question. Because well. I guess I'll go it. See Art. Don't some serial killers take some time. No I'll go see your incorrect chair. Do you want to steal yet? Be? Yes, it is be they let time pass. Do they? Let interesting okay well. That's the definition one of the main definitions. As a cooling down period in between. Were you know? To the entire episode we recorded about shut up. Yes, I listened. No, but that's the way who's put it now I'm like okay now. That makes sense. Like I said I'm GONNA mom spot I get nervous. Just, blame it on them. Eight point five. ABC? ABC News. All Right? Sharon here's a question. I don't know if it's exactly serial killer, but it's definitely true crime. crime-related witch object did John Dillinger used to escape from jail. One A toothbrush be a wooden gun or see a hammer. That's. I'm Kinda hoping is a toothbrush because I want to hear the backstory story. On here. How he would have escaped with toothbrush. toothbrush because it's so weird and random. You are wrong, Mindy, can you steal? A wooden gun or a hammer. I'M GONNA go with a wooden gun because that seems so silly and ridiculous. And Correct Oh. Dammit, dammit is correct. We should look into that Sharon because John. That's local. Yeah, all right. Here are a couple I hope. Easy horror movie questions, Mindy which Friends Star appeared in the movie scream. Oh. Yeah, but the funny thing is. Do you know her name? Her character's name on friends because that's the answer that this website. It's Monica's say Monica Zeller Right Nope, Geller. Oh No, actually my said Monica that right. Yeah, it's Monica but yeah. Her last name is not Zeller. Oh, I thought it was Oh Rachel's last name Zeller, isn't it? No, nope, no one. Oh. Alright Sharon here's your hopefully easy horror movie question in the nineteen eighty one movie the Shining, which hotel dejected and family, look after. The overlook. Yes, you are correct. Share it if you don't get this right, we're not doing this podcast. The CAST is canceled after one year. PODCAST is canceled long. Live the podcast. Especially considering we just covered Mike Flanagan and talked. We talked at length about the training i. mean either that or we've just truly gotten dumber since last week. Corentin. And we may need to call our doctors to. Of Our brains done a call Dr Sleep. Sorry, all right Mindy Timothy McVeigh killed up to one hundred and sixty eight people, because he was angry at the act of the US, government in a witch event number one the incident of Ruby Ridge be the siege of branch Davidian or see the Iraq war. Oh Shit Good question, that is a really good question and I. Don't I feel ashamed for not knowing this I'm going to go with. I guess see but I don't know that that's right. Well is up, but I'M GONNA. Give it to you because yes. The answer is c the Iraq war okay. Thank you for giving it to her. Even though that's what I said, she got it in just under. Okay Okay just in time Oh. Yeah, I haven't been watching the time. Sorry, you should have. Electrodes hooked up to us. We don't tempt me when that that'll be two year right hence against we'll do. A clockwork orange version of it. We're like he forces a selects. They're and. They're always question. Oh, no, I was thinking more like the original ghostbusters when Bill Murray is holding up the car. He's like what is on this card. And of course like the beautiful woman. Right gets Oliver wrong and he's like. Get got it, are you? Are you looking at these? You're so smart and. The Guy said anything whether he got it right or not. Because he got electrocuted. Yeah I see that happening. All right Sharon I have a murderer crime question for you ahead to skip some of these because they were way too easy. Like a little bit of a challenge, the Saint Valentine's Day massacre is often linked to which in Torius criminal et Al Capone be John, dillinger, junior or see George Moran. Al Capone IT IS AL capone now their local guy hope that wasn't too easy for him on this show. Did I ever talk about how he thinks that my cousin might have worked for him? I think you might have mentioned that I don't think no I. Don't think so my cousin. My cousin, my dad's cousin, technically his aunt son, and she was known to be psychic, and they lived in Chicago for a short time, and then they high tailed it right before the Saint Valentine's Day Bhaskar, but my my dad's cousin. Lake worked for Al Capone's dairy because he owned a dairy in Chicago, and he would quote unquote deliver at least they were white painted bottles to homes. What was really in them may or may not have been milk, but he was supposedly delivering milk. For Jones Meadow view I believe dairy, and then they hide held it like a week before the Saint Valentine's Day massacre and went back to Colorado. And then the massacre happened so my dad thinks that maybe his cousin, his distant cousin. About that interesting, so your cousin was a milk delivery driver for capone. Capone's the dairy that he owned. Yeah quote on quote, if you if you could see me, I'm doing air quotes right now. But bootlegger for. That's why you're exactly what I said to. My Dad I was like so our family was involved in this cool. But. Yeah, we don't really know for sure, but that's what my dad's specs. Interesting I know I. Love it I mean. You know. It's okay to love it. I mean you're. He was delivering people's severed heads. It was this is true alcohol. This is true, if anything, yeah, the worst. Is it W- alcohol? But they gotta there before Saint Valentine's Day massacre, so like I guess. My family thought that maybe they knew about it. I don't know all rumor because they're all dead now so. May Be. All Right Spencer. Quizzes summer all right. Here's some hard horror movie questions. Mindy okay. This is a a tagline. Your flesh will crawl right off your bones. What film is tagline referring? Mike flag absentia. When I thought about that creepiest thing, no Shit. It's not my answer. Clearly, I've been drinking beer and your smacked in my recorder again sorry Spencer. Clearly I'm not carrying about the ten second time limit. Sorry them. You are YEP in a way. I said them I don't know what the answer is. That is not the answer Sharon. Can you read question so you can stall? You should have made a point at the beginning to make that a rule, but since he didn't. Ask you every time and I can just say no. I will not read note. Your I don't think it's going to help. Your flesh will crawl right off. Your bones creepers your way closer than mindy, but still incorrect. The move is creep is a wade's. That was pretty fucking close. It was pretty fucking close. Does she get her being close. Do I. Get a quarter of a point half a point, no. No fractions or decimals? The word, right? That's half for. Make my own rules. We also got half of Ed Campers Mom's name right, but that's one whole point. All right. Sharon? Here's your heart horror movie trivia question. A suicidal wife's spirit possesses the equipment of a fitness gym. Everybody's fitness in the equipment causes accidents that kill the patrons of the gym. What movie is this? Let's get physical. I WANNA. Get The movie, but I love on. Talk! We. It's Oh I can imagine the cover is Jamie Lee Curtis shut up really if this is what I'm thinking of, what is it called? Oh wait no. Maybe that is an actual movie about her being a fitness instructor. Or were you thinking of that? One with Witha John Travolta. Maybe yes, I might be thinking that they played those clips at. How did this get made before the show started? I was like that's enough John. Travolta Crutch for one night. That is what I'm thinking of, but she's been in so many movies that I'm getting it like mashed up in my head. So! I'm just GONNA say. Of. Good answers the call. Mindy. Do you have any idea what this movie might be nine? Not Shopping Mall but. For some reason I'm picturing like a mall storefront with people exercising but I know that's not I'm picturing like women's workout world from the eighties like bally's total fitness. Well, it's entirely possible because I think the movie is from the eighties. COURSE IT S Yo. Yeah I have never seen it, but speaking of how did this get made? They actually talked about this movie on. How did this get made and I? Have mentioned this movie to you say that I wanted to see it. It's called death spa. Wanting this tonight. Thank you figure out how to watch this. We are going to watch this. Write this down. We're all watching tonight. Spa! Plainly. List fencers like my work here is done. Mindy witch man was known as the most prolific serial killer in US history. Was it a Gary Ridgway be Jeffrey Dahmer, or see Paul Knowles I know this one well, mindy, you better get it right then. No pressure, no pressure. The clock is ticking Oh my God. The clock is almost done. You Better Answer Real Quick Fifty fucking times. What do you say? I said be and you are incorrect. The Green River killer snap and you read his book, didn't you? Mindy like a while ago. Are At Sharon because you got one. That seemed pretty easy for you. I'm giving you one that I hope is a little bit harder. How did the angel of death murder most of his victims? Drug be smother or see drain them, blood wet drain them blood. There's a Typo here Drain their blood I liked drain them blood. I'm I'm going to say. Drug, you're correct do. I mean I guess you know if there's supposed to be the angel of death that would be the most peaceful way to kill someone bright, most humane way except for drain them blood drain them blood. All Right Mindy Jack and Sally aren't even in this part of the movie. Instead their friends sets the tone of the film by ironically watching a cliche horror movie in her house before she's attacked by an unknown assailant. The opening sequence of a film is often the best chance to exhibit a graduate skill to set the mood which of these films did not include a death before its title card appeared onscreen okay. A scream, be hatchet. See sought to or d the Blair witch project. Blair witch, you are correct. Nice and quick had no need to start the timer. Even running anyway. When you said Jackson's Elliott thought it was going to be a nightmare before Christmas question, and that was like what the fact is any of this have do it Neymar porkers. Took a turn around share and I. Don't know if you've seen this movie, but I think we should watch it. How did Mickey die in return to sleep away camp? Oh Shit Ooh by the way while you're thinking I have to say. Have to shout out. How did this get made again? They talked about sleep away camp at the beginning of the episode. They said if you have never seen this movie, stop listening to this episode and go watch it and so I stopped listening to the episode and eventually I watched the movie and they were absolutely correct. You have to see this movie the original. Way Camp. If you've never seen it, and then you should listen to their episode because it is an absolutely bonkers movie, I did see the sequel. There is a lot of deaths. Do you know who Mickey is? I do not remember. Of the top of my head, who Miki is I'm trying to think if I even remember some of the deaths, so I can just take a. Stab in the dark pun intended. I'm going to with is the person who was stung to death by bees. was that a thing that might have been in the first movie? I. See your plan here I. See what you're doing. Because I was talking and talking and talking. That I'm sure is trying to go. Past May ten second time and getting me to answer a question which means you can take that off your list. I know there is like a shower death. Ray, wasn't there a toilet seen, too? I feel like the toilet and the bees were in the first movie was I. Don't know. I'm going to say set on fire fucking. No, no, no fire in this one. Mindy guests flaming bees in the shower. Say it. Wow. That's actually a really impressive death, and I would like to see that we'll film one day. Horace Talk Hor. The movie Oh snap. The opening scene. Movie Spencer Getting stunned. And this shower by a bunch of flaming bees while sitting on the toilet. It'll be a toilet. Slash our. I've seen those those exist. They usually existent like camper vans, or in Europe or in your I mean you're halfway there? Why Not Shit? Job Right Did you ever see return to sleep away. Camp I've not seen the sequel. No I haven't, but I'm going to guess. Just forget them the reason of. What hot American summer and the dude in the, Kitchen So I'M GONNA. Say some sort of cooking disaster, but I have no idea or a surprisingly close shit really is Mickey Cook. Yes. I'm not I'm not giving you a point, but he was burned in a fryer hot grease. And that was so close. That was surprisingly close. That was us if it wasn't what hot American summer he would have been burned in Nevada Dick. Many wouldn't doing I clapping? She's smacking yourself. I cloud laughed, and I forgot where I was. All. Right here, a couple of easy serial killer questions I like this fencer like he qualifies them like Spencer's. Here's an easy one for you dumb asses. It up for you dumb asses. What is the nickname of the house in Chicago of H H Holmes a notorious serial killer. The murder. Castle a this is for Mindy. Shared I was. That's why I was like you're you on a the dungeon? Be Murder Castle. See Fraud. I would've legitimately said be, but I thought that this was sure. It's question that I was like Oh. Sure got this, but yes murder case. To too much talking. No! It's fraud, Ville. I'm so sorry. Yes, it's murder castle. Mindy gets appoint Sharon. Here's your hopefully. Point for giving no I knew that Shit. Come on. Yeah, I'm actually pretty sure she would have gotten that one. Yeah, yeah, probably that was pretty easy. Thanks to you, thanks Sharon. Welcome! We can stop talking too much. Spends is going to have the Hor- horrible time at. Food you did there? I'm already going to have a horror bowl time. Sharon, which serial killer said that he committed murders under the commands of a demonic dog. That would be. Give you the choices, or do you want to just say it Sam? I'm looking for the person's name. David Berkowitz correct I. don't even need any choices are right. Mindy, which film is about a new evil lurking six months after the incidents with a video. Oh. No, no, I know options. No, but it is a sequel. I'll tell you that if you couldn't figure it out vhs. No Shit the ring to. Ringo. Shit all right. Let the rain out there I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. You did get there. Is the Ray to? Sharon I hope this is equally challenging for you. We'll see in the silence of the lambs. which city is doctor lector imprisoned in? Feel like you gotTA. Know this movie fairly well. Okay would. In Virginia and I think she drives to go see him I. Don't think she has to fly or anything, so it has to be kind of close. Shit. I WANNA say Baltimore, but I'm totally guessing. You are damned correct. Look. Shocked, it was like randomly on TV not. Within the past year, and it's one of those movies where you put it on, and it's like you can't stop watch. Over is so good same with seven that actually popped up on on cable recently and I was like Holy Shit I haven't. Ever. And I like left it running, and then whatever I was doing. I just stopped whatever I was doing just like watch. The rest of the movie is so good. You're like Shit I was supposed to Klag in for a launch two hours ago. Work Man I'M GONNA. What's in the box? Yo. I WANNA know. Are we back to serial killers. We are back to serial killers, mindy. What was the Iq of Patrick? Keaney or the trash bag killer who killed thirty two people from nineteen, sixty, five, two, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, seven, a eighty, be one hundred and ten, or see one hundred and eighty shit I go middle ground with the that I have no idea you are incorrect. Share and you WANNA steal. A. You are also incorrect. It was de two hundred and forty holy was one eighty still all right I never heard of the trash bag. Keller, I think we need to do an episode on the trash bag killer and the torso murderer I would agree well I can give you another one that I skipped before. What was the serial killer Metal Fang mostly known for a, he had a pet wolf be, he had white metal teeth or see. He had a group of aggressive dogs. I'm going to be because it makes the most sense but I've not heard of this person again. Put It on the list. Put It on the list. Are serial killer last. Shows do. Watch movies shafter research serial killers research. We have a new list now. You're correct by the way. Wow, that's. Awesome and that's not awesome, but it's also really interesting. Does it say where? This person was located or no year. Dates are what you're going to have to learn in your research. Okay here we go mindy in Friday, the thirteenth part six. Lives, how does Jason Come back to life? Oh God. Options no options. You've seen this movie right? Nope, you guys have probably because you watch them all I didn't but. Almost all I'll say, somebody gets murdered in the lake, and that reinvigorates him such a good guest, but no. I'm sorry, it is not correct. Sharon. Do you happen to remember? I do not remember, but I'm going to say. Did he get hit with lightning? Yes, what? Do you remember now, no still. At the beginning of the movie, The kid from the previous movie was grown up, and he was in a cemetery for some reason, and the kid and his friend came because they wanted to make sure that he was really there. It's a whole stupid beginning, but yeah he gets struck by lightning, and he comes back even stronger than before. Yeah I don't remember that. Do, you remember all that off the top of your. Jeez wow I'm impressed, Spencer. Maybe maybe we should do an episode one day where Mindy You I Quiz Spencer I. Agree Probably won't remember a lot of stuff. I mean you've since we've met. You did not really watch horror movies at all. And I've probably gotten you to watch around one two hundred, or you're taking a guess at how many movies and horror movies of seen. Yeah with you. sure why not well we watch about thirty one every. October and we watched some throughout the year. You know besides that we've been. Doing that together about five years ago. But I haven't seen I. Haven't seen I haven't done all thirty one every month that. You are correct. There are other times of the year that I watch horror movies. Late tonight we're going watch death SPA. Report back to you. Like. I'm not putting that to bed. That's happening. I'm excited for death SPA. I love a good cheesy eighty s horror flick. That is my Kryptonite. I will watch them all. Right, here is Sharon's question. Horror movie question, which is actually a horror movie serial killer combination. ooh, real life serial killer was the killer in scream based. That was worded terribly. Can You reword fat? Scream. Killer in scream is based on a real life serial killer. Who Was it I didn't realize that the killer and scream was based on a real life killer. I don't think this is someone that I've heard of because. I don't I cannot think of any serial killer off my head that war, any sort of like. Like that or us? We don't know how it was based on I. Will Okay. Would you say this is someone I've heard of? Probably not okay well in that case, and that case I'm going to say all through the house. Mindy Guess. Sharon took mate and Sir so not really I was gonNA say the House. The answer is Danny Rolling. Really put him on our list of serial killers to research. He's on the list. Put Him on this. On this he could have been in the episode where we did serial killers who were inspired by horror movies, vice versa or vice versa. Yeah, well, we can still do an episode. That'd be awesome. We can do a part to that up, so yeah Oh yeah I'm sure there's a bunch more alright. Mindy here is a possibly hard question for you. The serial killer William Herons was known for leaving written messages in what a lipstick be blood or see feces mayes a fan of blood so I'm. GonNa go with be you are incorrect. Share. Do have guests, so that leaves lipstick or feces. Great options. Both great makeup option he's. I'M GONNA. Go with lipstick. You're correct, Slu. I was hoping for fee so bad. What does that say about you? Know. Share and how many people have been considered as Jack? The ripper suspects a fifty be one hundred or C. Two hundred. Let's just. meet halfway ain't going Andrea. You are correct back. Yeah, okay mini in the opening of this one thousand nine hundred ninety eight horror film, Michelle drives away from frightening gas station in the middle of a storm to the tune of Bonnie. Tyler's total eclipse of the heart little. Does she know the killers in the back seat? What's the movie? Shit Okay does your options like guessing. Multiple Choice! No, thank you. That's the word I was looking for I will say that total eclipse of the heart was our theme for our snow. Dance senior year I was GONNA. Say might have been right, and but I have a friend that makes fun of it in a play that we did That's neither here nor there, but that song always makes me laugh automatically was which was my point, but I feel like it might be urban legend. You're correct. Yeah, that back seat! Thing was something that my my parents told me when I learned to drive. They were like if you stop anywhere, always checking them back seat so. I remember that. Core that was like an urban legend that was just like baked into our childhood for sure, but still always a good idea I remember. Our six grade teacher told us this. Mindy, which is kind of disturbing. Now that I think of it so I remember sixth grade teacher told us that every time. She opens her car door, she. Like jogs up and down. So that one foot is always in the air. She's opening her car door. If someone's under the car, they can't slash both of her ankles. Does kind of a fucked up thing to tell sixth graders I. Don't remember that at all. Oh, I totally remember that. That's probably one of the things that. Amongst many that kind of helped. Propel me into the whole like obsession with true crime. I'm going to say I do remember that had all, but that's crazy. It's also a really good advice I guess, but fucked up as to why she would have told us in sixth grade, but okay I'm going with it. I'll remember it because we were young women who are going to be driving one day, and she wanted us to be safe or a chair, and here's a horror movie question. The follow up to prom. Night is considered a sequel. Though has nothing to do with the events of the original. A Prom Queen is set on fire by accident thirty years later she comes back as a demon and possesses an innocent teen. This is a nineteen eighty seven film who's beginning takes place in nineteen fifty seven. What is the correct title referred to as and that was a crazy question. To Larry, Lou. Shit Sh-. Do this is my question? So sorry, I think it's. Hello Mary Lou Prom night to yes, it is very good, good guess. Prom night to electric bigalow. All right I think we're going to do one more for each of you again. Mindy starring Gregory Peck in nineteen seventy, six and live Schreiber in the two thousand six remake, which horror movie features Damien as the new anti Christ, either no options or I go for it. Are you serious mini? Waiting pausing the same more like ABC, but I would go with the OH. Man, yes, you are correct. What Oh away! Darren last. Question share. Don't answer for me nominee. Them and drink. What is the name of the Nineteen eighty-one American? British comedy horror film in which actor David Naughton turns into a Werewolf an American Werewolf in London yes, you are correct. You both ended on a win. We don't. We get one more serial killer. Fine. Sharon's even the score her. Mindy. It's your turn, okay? How did the GIGGLING granny murder? Many members of her family a poison be stab with a knife or see shot. who wrote this? I don't now, can you before she answers? Can you put the giggling granny on our list of serial, killers or research? WHAT THE FUCK! You might want that Holy Shit. The. I feel like. Obvious answers to go with a which I'm GonNa do yes, you are correct. That's what I would have said. Yeah, because that is basically If a woman's GONNA kill someone. Usually they used poison. They use a non violent method because we're civilized. They giggling granny. I want to know more shit. Yeah, I, don't think a granny could easily stab all of the members of her family. Hey well, you never know I. Did Watch the lifetime movie killer killer grandma. And we all know how accurate lifetime movies are. No, but she she did more than just poison. So that's all I'm saying. You know what as a feminist I'm going to say, women can do more than just. Shoot Stab. We can strangle with the best of them just like the men Ram. I won't say anything otherwise, because otherwise I might get poison women power. Or speaking of women murdering. What were the last words of Eileen Pittman? Before she was executed a, they deserved it be I will be back or see. Thank goodness, it is over. They deserved it. They may have, but that is not what she said, Mindy. No, they did not deserve it, mindy, do you have a? You have a chance to steal here. I'm going to go at C.. Thank, Goodness Trivia game is over. That is not the correct answer, but thank goodness it is over. She said I will be back interesting so the final tally, and did you come back? As Eileen War `nos, maybe president is it spelled the same the first name? Was Eileen were noces. First Name Spelled I. L. E. and I think. What what you're what you're. Did this person get executed? No Clue Google Spencer Pedia. That's what you're here for. You don't tell me what to do. You don't tell me what's what wait. Maybe it is the same person. Why didn't they use her? Yeah, she was born. Eileen Pittman Oh God dammit well that changes things. Does it I know she didn't say I deserve it. I thought it was a totally different person. If you knew the answer then, why didn't you say I will be back? Her name was Pittman. Did you know I lean more noces last words? Yep. About sounded like a lot of confidence right there. Well No, but honestly, though if I knew it was Eileen. I don't know why this quiz and say. Eileen wore warno because way more popular than Eileen Pittman. You have to be a real super van of hers to know her last name anyways. I know she would not have said A. They deserved it, but anyways I digress with did Eileen, wore noses. Victims deserve it Kinda. No, they did not. No one deserves murder. Anyway now her victims did not so. That is the end of the game. Congratulations to both of you for getting some answers correct. What's the damage? What's the total? Mindy has fourteen and Sharon has. Looks like eighteen. We'll we'll. Have less than many. We gotta keep going. I can't tell if it's eighteen or nineteen. Because I wrote, I drew a line a couple of times, so some of you. People. Might have been keeping better track than me. I don't know it doesn't matter Sharon one. Whatever good game in the whatever? Oh, someone's a sore. I said good. Game God damn it. I said good, day. In our next episode. We might be talking about death spa we. Will Definitely GonNa Watch that tonight, but. anyways good game to you, Madam. Well. Mad at him well, that is the end of our one year anniversary. Trivia Challenge I duNNo, Know Mindy, what do you think? Did we get dumber? Probably learn anything. We probably got a little dumber, but a little smarter at the same. We now know how to talk into the MIC. So that's a little progress. That's all that matters. It's the little things in life that matter. But we do WANNA. Thank you all so much for listening to us for the past year. We had no idea how long the show is GonNa last when we first started it, it's been amazing watching this little show. Hopefully it'll last another year. It is a lot of hard work, but we have fun doing it. Which is why we keep doing it, and it's been great to see all the positives support that we get from all of you in emails and on social media. We really appreciate it more than you know. Also thank you to our patrons. We you all are in before. I Forget I. WanNa! WanNa give an extra special. Thank you to Spencer for not only being our quizmaster today, but also honestly without him. We wouldn't even have this podcast. He was the one that encouraged us to do the PODCAST. He's the one that helped set it up because he's tech guy and I don't know how to do any of this. He does all the editing to make a sound better Yeah. He really really puts in Seoul much hard work and puts in so many hours that he dedicates to this podcast and I'm extremely grateful to him and re wouldn't be doing this without him so spencer. Thank you so much and I I. Just WanNa throw out there that we know. We annoy the fuck out of him, but he he handled it really well, and is very civil about it and keeps a sense of humor, but really honestly, though Spencer thank you for everything you do. You are amazing. He is way more patients than I do. And as I've said and proved over the past few weeks. I'm not a sound engineer, so I very much appreciate what you do because you very much. Make sure we have. The right cable's plugged in properly and all that good stuff, but. You're really producers, so thank you Spencer for being awesome. And thank you Sharon for marrying him. Because otherwise we wouldn't have them here. This this is true, and it's all about you I didn't know all circle. I did do good though I picked a good one you did. You're welcome all send you a bill later. Honestly, though thanks again for listening and writing in and continuing to do so, here's to another year of US cracking. You guys up. Either with us or at us both will work, we'll take them both, and here's to sharing more scary stories, speaking of which ha ha. You have any ghost stories on how stories True Crime Stories ufo stories serial killer stories whatever you would like to share with us. We would love to hear what happened, so please write to us. 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"Thanks for listening to fresh air. We'd like to better understand who is listening. And how you are using podcasts. Please help us out by completing a short anonymous survey at NPR DOT ORG slash podcast. Survey one word. It takes less than ten minutes and really help support the show that's NPR dot org slash podcast survey word from whyy in Philadelphia. I'm terry gross with fresh air today. Mindy kaeling she's the Co Creator and main writer of a new comedy series on net. Flix called never have I ever. Kaelin drew on her experiences in highschool to write the series. The main character Davy is a high school sophomore. Who Liked Kaeling is the daughter of Indian? Immigrants were Hindu. Dave is one of the smartest students in the school but is considered too nerdy to be popular and although she prays literally praised for a boyfriend. She's not close to having one killing. I became known for her role on the office. As Kelly Kapoor now that the office is syndicated and streaming. It's one over a new generation of viewers and a new set of killing fans. We'll talk about killings coming of age. Her comedy and being a diversity higher which inspired her film late night my guest Mindy Kaeling Co created and is the main writer of a new netflix series. Called never have I ever that draws on her own experiences when she was in high school it was described in Vanity Fair as breezy and delightful practically built for quarantine marathon watching killing. I became known for her role in the office. As Kelly Kapoor she was also a writer and producer of the series. She was an executive producer and star of the series. The Mindy Project. She wrote last year's movie late night in which he starred as the diversity higher in the writer's room late night TV show. Let's start with a scene from never have I ever the main character? Davy is the daughter of immigrants from India. The family lives in. La and David has just started her sophomore. At Sherman Oaks High School. She's one of the schools top students and is considered nerdy and unpopular in praise for a boyfriend. Her freshman year was a disaster. Her father died of a heart attack while attending a classical music concert. She performed in soon after her legs became suddenly and mysteriously paralyzed and she had to use a wheelchair which didn't help her status at school. The paralysis ended swiftly and mysteriously as it began her father's death and a brief paralysis are subjects. She doesn't talk about in this scene from episode four. Davy is introducing herself to a college counselor. Who's married to one of her? Mother's friends counselor. Specializes in helping students get into Ivy League schools. The kind of school Davey is striving. For the voice over you'll briefly here by John McEnroe who narrates Davies story throughout the Series Davies? Played by trae e Ramakrishnan. I just wanted to say how interested in procuring your services. Your stats are amazing. I don't know I only got twenty eight kids into Ivy's last year when I wanted thirty the other two went to mit. But you can't win more. Well I guess I can't relate because I do when I'm all I'm in. Ap classes and got a perfect score on my psat. Great Segue Davey effortless. All volunteering at the Kidney Dialysis Center. When I'm not doing that I read Vietnam. Vets there bill O'Reilly books. Okay look I can say this because I married an Indian woman and a proud member of this vibrant community but schools don't want another Indian. Try Hard who is president of the petted resume club. What we know failure is what keeps me up at night. Colleges want kids with unusual stories. I had this kid you got into a car. Crash was did a full thirty seconds. He said God told him to go to Yale. It worked. I outgrew nut allergy. So that's something I actually know who you are you. You're the girl whose dad died in front of her to conserve became paralyzed. David couldn't believe that the major trauma for life could be reduced to a single sentence but there it was. Yeah what about that? Story is freaking amazing. You have the golden ticket. If you're willing to talk about it. I Bet I can get you in school. You want but David didn't WANNA use a story of her father's death as a way to make herself more interesting to a bunch of admission committees. No I'm not GONNA do that well without it. I don't get your angle to be honest out. See how you'd be different than any other Indian kid applying to college. I'm not like any other teen kid and I'm not interesting just because my dad died. What makes you interesting? Oh I don't know Ron. Maybe it's my perfect grades or my killer test scores. Maybe is my bitch and personality or mind. Same powerpoint skills. I don't need some washed up. White Dude who leases a tesla telling me what makes me special. Recent is still a financial commitment in my monthly. Payment is quite Mindy Kaeling. Welcome back to fresh air. Congratulations on your new series. Before we talk about the series. How are you doing great? I mean it. Is that callous to say in this time? It's a lot of spending time with my daughter and failed recipe making catch but Given how terrible it is out there. I have to say I feel very lucky and happy to be And at home how is it changing? Your life is a mother. Well it's really increasing my time ism there so I I am at home with her all the time with my two year old and so she is over the moon. I think I was more of a mysterious guest star in her life before this and so now I'm really here being domestic. I think she likes it and I like it too. Why did you want to create a series where the main character is? A sophomore in high school was that a turning point year for you to the story of why we did. This show is a little bit unromantic and that I was approached by Netflix by an executive named Brooke Kessler who read both of my books and loved the sections about when I was a teenager and those are pretty short sections because like a lot of comedy writers. I think of my adolescence and childhood is incredibly embarrassing painful but she liked those actions and she had seen that I had not dramatized them and so she wanted to know if I would ever consider that and she thought it'd be a good fit for Netflix. Because there had never been a show about an American girl on TV and at first I thought it would be too painful and embarrassing to relive those experiences and it ended up being very cathartic because I hired a staff of many young Indian women and we talked about our teenage years. Which will happen at different times? Obviously because I'm older than most of the staff they're all they're all in their twenty s because we wanted to get young perspective and it made me feel that all this stuff. I was going through as a teenager. I was not alone. Fifteen is a good year. I think to start a show because it's when you think you can handle things like Saxon relationships and going off to college but you really can't and having a character with a big ego who thinks she knows what her life has has in store for her. We just felt like there was a good year. Also we had enough of high school. After that we could dramatize the show for years to come. Oh I see 'cause she she's a sophomore now. There could be the second semester and semester junior and then senior. Yes we have thirty years thirty years at least to do. The show could apology afterwards. Yeah exactly so in the Grad School. We see her in a series. Her father has a heart attack while attending concerts performing in and he dies and that's incredibly traumatic and then you're the the main character. Has this mysterious leg paralysis. That lasts for a few weeks or a few months. Where did that storyline come from? I nothing like that happened to you. Did it now? It didn't happen to me. It happened to the brother of my co-creator laying Fisher so when we were talking about the series. We're there are so many teenage series on Netflix. And actually just out there about love and sex and all of that and we were both really interested because we had parents that died unexpectedly in talking about grief and how grief manifest itself and her brother After her parents got divorced had about four months when his legs were paralyzed and then all of a sudden they started working again and they went to every doctor and they're willing to every psychologist and it was this mysterious thing and then when that happened in researching it. This is something that happens to people. Particularly young people sometimes after trauma so that was Hard to resist as something to talk about and after she spoke to her brother and got permission we felt we wanted to use it in this series because we thought it was a a really fascinating physical manifestation of a teenagers grief. So you know you mentioned that you and your Cook Creator. Both lost parents unexpectedly. Your mother died in around twenty twelve. Twenty eleven of pancreatic cancer like motor some of the ways. Her death informed how you wrote the series and actually a lot of unexpected ways lang and I and other writers who've lost parents got to speak about that grief and unique circumstances that we thought were only asked like we we found between the two of us in another writer. There these instances after our parents died that we would have dreams about them where they were alive in in the dreams. We would ourselves say wait. You're dead how are you talking to me? And they said No. I got better and so when you talk to to other people a read a comedy writers room and they've all had this eerie similar experience post their parent's death. It is first of all strange because we're coming from and it's not funny at all but also like wow okay well. This might be happening to other people as well. So those are things that we put in the script as well as dreaming about your parents and also the peculiar way that your relationship with your parent exists. Even after they've died. And that's something. I've talked to a lot of people that they feel that way. Spiritual or not spiritual atheist or not a lot of people have that same experience and so we wanted to put that in the show too so The main character has two best friends. One of them is Chinese American one of them's African American the main characters indian-american and so they're known as the UN and she assumes that means United Nations you know but she is also told it's for a much more negative reason because they're all UN- affable So where were you called anything like that when you were in high school? You know. I'm sure I was. I never discovered that to my face. I'm absolutely sure there is tons of mean nicknames for me because I would hear me nicknames about other nerdy girls who were not me and you know there is a tall girl. I went to school with. Who is very beautiful? Actually but she was tall and because all the boys are shorter than her and that made them insecure. They called her Bista and she had no idea that was her nickname. And so when you hear about things like that I mean that's such a cruel nickname We just thought these girls have to have as an. That's been a real reflection of me in high school and my friend laying as well where we were nerds. And I'm Asian so we were just gravitated. I don't know whether it's comfort we gravitated towards other minority nerds and it wasn't something I'd seen on TV before. I thought well you know this is my real experience. So maybe we should show it. Were you a serious student like the main character is? It's funny you ask that because I was a serious student but one thing we noticed when we see shows about nerds is that because they tend to be a lot of side characters. They tend to be very demure in wildflowers. They don't want to speak up for themselves. And that's definitely a kind of nerd that was at my school but there's also like the belligerent confident nerd. They want big things for themselves and even though they're not getting it it doesn't mean that they don't think they deserve it and Lang who is also an an over achieving net who then went to an Ivy League school. We both had the same experience and we wanted to show an ambitious nerd. Socially wanted to lose their virginity wanted to be cool. Go to concerts And of course never happened for either of us but we thought that would be fun to show you know. They're not all sad quiet bookworm other. We were also those things but we were like loud and Ramona's and opinionated were you belligerent. I think at times I think that when you are interested in comedy at a young age and you don't know how to express it I think that you. I think that I'm not sure. Bullet is exactly the right word. I do think that I stopped for myself. A Lot In a way that probably put people off certainly boys Yeah did you have a temper? Liquor character does definitely and I still have a temper now. And it's it's interesting being Asian. Because they think that you don't associate Asian women with having tempers and so so many of us do right so that's not the stereotype about us. So I was thrilled. Do a show about a lot of short fused Asian women and To show that side of us. Did you have boyfriends in high school because your main character boyfriend? Thank you for even posing the question of course. The answer's no it's ridiculous even asked the question but it was very polite of you. I'll say no of course. Not Terry we're kind of boyfriend. Did you dream of? What kind of boyfriend did I? Dream of You know there's so many different kinds of one was kind of there's this term we use in our writer's Room. I think we started at the office called NBC handsome which is kind of like Zach. Braff Adam Brody a you know kind of like Brown haired floppy haired. Guy Who is unsure of himself a little bit but kind of confident and super-quick and probably grew up in the tri-state area so for me. That was who I thought was good looking and attractive because I felt like they weren't cool. Blonde jock this was like a a sensitive guy who you know probably went to an east coast liberal arts school and he could handle my indianness and that's kind of what I was drawn to do. Maybe Jewish you know like that kind of thing could handle spicy Indian food without saying it was too hot or something so since we've established that you have a temper. Has It ever gotten you into serious trouble or did did you do something like so out of Control? That you were really ashamed. Afterwards there were a lot of times when it would flare up what I was the office because that was when I was so green to that I I didn't understand the hierarchical nature of a writer's room and so you know I also had a big chip on my shoulder because I was at least the first or the only woman and for a while the only minority like fulltime writer that was there and so I It would flare up. A lot of the good news is that my boss and my mentor was was this very forgiving. Greg Daniels and I've talked about him before and her show. But he was someone who is the opposite he's inherited. He's very methodical in kind and thoughtful. And I think he kind of was his responsibility to be patient with me about those things. And that's actually something that now when I have so many younger riders many of whom are minorities are young women like. I have really been confronted with okay. We have to kind of do a greg did because my natural inclination is someone is fighting with me. And I'm their boss is to quell it by screwing them but now I I really try to remember what Greg did and try to replicate that as much as I can. In this series the main character meets a friend who is now at Princeton. Which is one of the places that your character would like to end up in after high school and she tells him of Sheikh. She's a princeton away from home she'd be come an atheist and he'd burgers and have a white boyfriend but her friend who actually is it. Princeton says well. He thought maybe he feel that way too but he has a native American roommate which has made them think a lot more about his own Indian heritage. Did you go through an experience like that yourself? Yeah must exactly my best friend from college. One of my small group of Friends is native from Montana and when we got to college I was not part of the Indian Alliance Group It didn't occur to me to be part of that but she became very big in the native Americans like student coalition and they would have Palau's and they she would live in she lived in the Nat House which is the native American housing and she was so Proud to be native and she was so proud to share it with her friends and I remember feeling really embarrassed about that because I I didn't have that relationship with being Indian or Hindu and we went to visit her in Montana and went to the reservation where she grew up and she would very probably say growth on the rise. I can't wait for you to meet my friends at I grew up with and I felt kind of ashamed. I thought like you know. Why is she so proud of this and Never Americans is country have been through so much more than I think Indian Americans have and she's so of it and maybe that's the reason why actually that she was Is there's like defiance in it but I did not have that same relationship with being Indian and I remember being really ashamed. That's a moment that we put into the Ganesh Pooja episode as her wondering why she has that relationship with her faith and with culture so we were talking about. You didn't have a boyfriend in highschool and your character. So far is kind of striking out did. Did your parents have strict views about dating or sex when you were growing up? And how did how did their views compared to what you want it and how you behaved. Well it's so funny. Bring that up. I was I was talking about this the other day. Because it was a real paradox. There was we were told overtly that no one was allowed to date while they were in high school Not that there's anybody knocking on my door or anything like that. But that was a real rule that was not allowed to have a boyfriend at the same time. My mother really wanted me to dress very feminine league. Get my eyebrows done. She was totally fine with us. Going to Sephora to buy makeup doing my hair and I was very important to her so it was. It was interesting. She wanted to me to be kind of conventionally attractive and girly I would even say more so than other moms but then also shut the door on any kind of me having any romantic possibilities in high school which I thought was interesting. Well how do you reconcile those two ideas making you more feminine as attractive as possible but not warning you to have intimate relationships with boys? I think she wanted me to be perfect so she wanted me to be a beautiful and for people to want to be friends with me and for people to think I was attractive but then also Pristine and not having a physical relationship with boy which let me underline would never have happened anyway but but so that everybody would want to be my friend and I think it was attractive and pretty also had was just this very focused hard working kid who just wanted to go to college Get into a great school and I think that is something that would have made a really proud I was fifty percent of that. So you know I was the hard working kid got I wasn't the other thing but you know I I tried would you have gone against your parents wishes about sex. How you have the opportunity which you've made it clear your heartbeat in a heartbeat. If Adam Brody Ted if my pitcher about him brody from Nineteen ninety-four wanted me to go to become his steady girlfriend. Oh I would have died. Had this like stealthy deceit filled romantic relationship with him while also taking AP classes. I mean it was my dream to have it all but you know that that did not happen. So let me reintroduce you here. If you're just joining us my guest is Mindy killing and her new series never have I ever just started streaming on net flicks. She was also a writer and producer on the series. The office and Played Kelly. Kapoor reading to talk more after we take a short break. I'm Terry Gross. And this is fresh air support for NPR and the following message come from best fiends. Have more time on your hands. Connect with family and friends and engage your brain with fun puzzles by downloading best means the five star rated mobile puzzle game with over one hundred million downloads. The game is updated monthly so there are always new levels to play events to master and cute characters to collect and you can play without an Internet connection download best fiends for free on the apple APP store or Google play today. That's friends without the our best fiends. Let's get back to my interview with Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which just started streaming on. Netflix DRAWS. Some of her own high school experiences. It's about a sophomore in high school named Davey whose parents are from India. David is one of the schools best students but wishes she was one of the most popular. She's far from it. She's considered nerdy an attractive killing. I became known for her role on the office. As Kelly Kapoor she was also a writer and producer of this series. She starred in the series the MINDY PROJECT LAST YEAR. She started the movie comedy late night as the diversity higher in the writer's room of a late night. Tv show. She also wrote the movie when I interviewed you in twenty twelve. You mentioned and I don't remember what the context is. You mentioned that you're interested in the prejudices. That minorities have against other minorities. And you thought that that was a really good comedy era area and you work that into your new series in that. There's a an Indian woman who decided not to get the arranged marriage. She was supposed to have and she married a Muslim man and then they divorced and none of the women in this particular Indian community. WanNa talk with her because she had married him Muslim man. Is that an example of what you were talking about. In terms of prejudices. Some minorities have about other minorities of course in India in India can doozer not a minority but in America they are. Yeah absolutely. I think that is definitely an example of that. I have seen firsthand the racism that Hindus feel towards Muslims. Because of you know it's it's it's weird to inherit a prejudice because it's something that's based in India. You know because I think it's about Kashmir issues and issues. That table is in India. And then you're supposed to inherit them when you're When you're here too and so we that character felt Really true to my childhood. And my life of a woman who'd made a choice and then was a shunned because of it and what you find funny about those tensions. I find it funny because to the average white American. We're probably the same. The you know this is like to me. It's really narcissism of small differences to average American person looking at someone who's dark skin Indian Hindu person in a dark skin in Muslim person. I don't think anyone thinks there's a big difference between me. And as he's on sorry but his family you know he's I think atheist but his family is Muslim and his dad grew up in this same town. My Dad grew up in in south India but my dad's Hindu. So there's this you know the giant chasm for people who are Indian about about our different families but to the outside personnel. Both Indian as he's in mindy are they related to each other probably like that's I find that comical so for you and is on. Sorry it's more of a bond than a difference. Yes Yeah we've actually talked about it too. I think when he started on Parkson Rack and I had been on the Office. We got so many tweets where people said. Oh they should be together they should date and it was like why because reading to Indian people on NBC. So I think it's funny when our communities try to find lots of different reasons why we're so different when you know a majority of probably this country things were identical. Yeah so you ended up going to Dartmouth College You got your degree in play writing and then you went to New York and started doing. Stand up what was the comedy scene like than what year are we talking? This is I moved just before Nine eleven so this is the fall of two thousand one until two thousand four is when I was in New York so frightening time to start a new life on your own in New York. Yeah you know that experience being there for that it really. You know because we weren't able to use the subway. Even I mean if that post nine eleven New York was it was. We didn't have jobs so we would walk across the Brooklyn Bridge just after because we and we walked to the village we'd spend like an hour and a half walking from Brooklyn to different restaurants to try to get you know waitressing gigs. You know his twenty one. I don't know why I would think it felt normal but everyone else my age is doing the same thing so so when you started trying out comedy stand up comedy in New York. What was your material like? I remember thinking okay. I do not want to be pegged as an ethnic comedian. I shorten my name because Emcees for these comedy shows would have trouble pronouncing it and then they'd make a joke about my last name. What was that I never wanted to Line real name is Vera Mindy Choke Allingham and its Indian name and it's a long name and as a performer. These comedians would just butcher it and then be like I don't know what it is. Just this girl mindy and so I would go do stand up and I already felt like a huge distance from the audience just as a new comedian but then even more distance because it had been made so clear that I was ethnic. And then you know when you to comedy everyone from Albert Brooks you know Woody Allen. These are all comedians who changed their names and I felt it was the easiest thing for me to do ultimately it was really beneficial to to do it and it was something that I had like a lot of mixed feelings about but my parents didn't mind I talked to them about it and then I ended up shortening in it and I have to say and I say this bittersweet but I have to say it was such a help to my career tavern name that people could pronounce So you didn't WanNa do ethnic material. So what was your material like Really bad observational. Like poor man's like Jerry Seinfeld observations about New York and my life. It was honestly trying to be so many different things. I Love Jerry Seinfeld so I try to do material like him. I Love Sarah. Silverman's detracted immaterial like like her and ultimately you can't do go into Santa comedy trying to do someone else's act very poorly so I gave up doing it. I think only probably did stand up for a year and a half and even during that it wasn't a concentrated time I would go. Do Open makes once every two weeks. If the real reason I did it was. It was my only way to dip my toes into the waters of comedy. That was free and accessible. Because you couldn't just be like. Hey I want to go for Saturday night live. Can you just like have me come do it? And there wasn't You know programs in place to discover talent that were You know didn't necessarily look like what they already had. So it was. My only access was through. Stand up because it was accessible and free when you're in college. You had an internship on late night with Conan. O'brien how did you get that? I remember because this was Before twitter before instagram they had a page in the very early nineteen ninety nine the very early NBC website and it was little. I think it was just like. Nbc Dot Com backslash internships and. They had their list of shows. And you'd Click on it and then you would just send a fax. I went to the Kinko's in like an into Hanover. Have like a like a Kinko's open from nine to four and so I just printed out my high. My College resume which was less than half a page and I just sent it with a cover letter to this number and then two weeks later. We got a call on like landline. My dorm so it was. One of those things is hard. Remember nearly like you don't know that anyone received your resume. You don't know If you're ever hear anything back there's no you know receipts. I didn't you know an email or anything. So that's how I did it and I had to then interview. I had to go to New York to interview with the head of the intern program which was like a fifteen minute interview. But I got to go to thirty rock. That experience of going there by myself was the one of the most glamorous experiences of my life. But I wasn't in the raiders. Jim I got to interact with the raiders. I got to take their lunch orders. Not Dino deliver photocopies to them. But I didn't. I wasn't able to sit in the raiders in hero. Here how they made the show. Let me reintroduce you here. If you're just joining us my guest is Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which started streaming on Netflix. We'll talk more after we take a short break. This is fresh air. The biggest story in the world is a science story and keeping up with all the latest corona virus research. It's a lot. So on shortwave. We translate the science you need to know into short daily episodes. Listen and subscribe to shortwave from NPR. Let's get back to my interview with Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never I ever which has now streaming on net flicks. She got her start on the series. The office playing Kelly Kapoor. She was also a writer and producer on the series so last year you had a movie called late night in which you played an aspiring comic who gets a job basically. She's the minority higher for late night. Tv show tonight show. Connor show that that's been hosted for thirty years by a woman played by Emma Thompson and Emma. Thompson's character has become kind of out of touch with what people especially younger people find funny She's very arrogant But she's told by the executives than the the show becomes more relevant in the ratings pickup. She's out so to shake things up a little bit figures okay. We'll do a minority hires. She hires us. It's not like she has any faith in you. It's kind of like you're hired. And then you have to deal with an all white male writers room and a host to is pretty condescending. Were you a diversity higher when you started working on the office. Yes yes proud diversity higher and do you think like that was a successful diversity? Higher like you were hired to add diversity. Diversity was needed and you turned out to be exceptionally talented. So it was kind of I mean. Do you see that as a win win. Win for the office and a win for you definitely. I think the program was invaluable and I think that. Nbc was at that time. The only one of the major networks. That was doing something like that at the time. I didn't think so At the time I thought it was really humiliating. Actually because the way that that works is a diversity. Higher is no cost to the show so when you get hired And you're a minority and through the NBC Diversity Hiring Program you know that the NBC is paying the cost of your salary. Not The show. So that's why the show is incentivized to hire minorities and What ends up happening. There's this phenomenon that would happen there. Is that a writer get hired for a year and then they only pay your salary the first year so if you are going to continue on for second year. They won't pay her salary anymore. So you'd have this phenomenon on these shows because other network started doing the same thing where you'd have a minority writer who is a staff writer. Which is the entry level writing job? And then the next year there'd be a different staff writer because it to promote them the show would have to take on the cost of staff so everybody knows that this is the case so when you go into a show your biggest sensitivity is that everyone thinks the only reason you were hired is because you were free whereas everyone else had. They had to pay good money for them. And I don't know whether how much people are actually thinking about that or whether that was just in my head but it was just one of these subtle ways that I felt that I was a little bit less than the other writers. But it's tricky right because the programs incredible and it got me into the business and many other people who now have have nice careers in Hollywood. Yeah it's it's a complicated thing I that's why I wrote the movie late night because I wanted to talk about it. The office is having this huge resurgence. Misuse Renaissance. It's I think. Sound like three different channels including comedy central. There's like marathons. What impact is that having on a new seeing that security is like not only back on TV. But it's pretty popular you know. It's incredible it's funny. How many fourteen fifteen year old kids will come up to me at the airport? Because they've been cheated on net flicks and they've seen everything I mean. I remember about three or four years ago. I got a call from one of my agent saying hey this young singer. Songwriter would love to sample a section of one of your episodes. I think you wrote it in your voice in it as Kelly demand if they do that she's like an l. a. based indie singer Songwriter. And I said yes. Sure that's fine. She and I just assigned something and it was Billy Bush and she wrote a song called. It was called my strange addiction. Which is one of her big hits and the song samples different parts of the office because she loves the show so much in fact she would even say it's not love it's like she's obsessed with the show and she seen. I think she seemed the entire series from season one to season nine all the way through like four or five times and so she wrote a song about it and I'm sampled in it and I didn't. I didn't understand who she was at the time. So attack this real impact on this this younger generation. It's been great because that's not a show that I think could be made now or not. I think there's just a heightened sensitivity now to viewers. That wasn't there when the show came out. But it's it's strange right because the show is more popular now than it was. I think even than when we first certainly the first season of the show where we really struggled I think that network executives the way that Michael Scott behaves in the kind of stuff that he says. I think they would have a real fear that there would be blogs and articles and petitions written against them. I remember in the first season of the office. There is a joke where diversity day where Michael is talking to a Mexican American character named Oscar and he says you know Oscar. You're Mexican in an Oscar. Says he has no pride Mexican says well. Is there a term you would like to use it less offensive? And then he's like then Mexican and he's like there isn't anything offensive. And it's this. It's this big it's a it's a very like icon. Michael Scott Joke. But I can't see you know I'm creating shows now I can't see that being okay with a lot of heads of studios and networks to have that kind of show and the reason why the joke is funny because this character has this is so sweetly bigoted you know and I think. That'd be hard to reconcile. Now how can you care to be so bigoted but you still cheer for him and you still want him to become a better person. And I think there's so much fear now of a bad reaction from people that they don't want to take those kind of creative risks and do you think that that's a shame I do i. I'm not offended by very much. But then again I have also not been marginalized a lot of ways that people are so it's tricky. I grew up loving comedy. I give people the benefit of the doubt so general. I'm less offended but at the same time There are people who are you know? I'm I think I'm very lucky. But it's too bad because I I do think the show is very funny and I don't think you know having been there. I do not think it was made by people who are trying to be offensive or push forth you know bad a- bad agendas so it. I think it's too bad jokes about how clueless Michael is. It's it's yeah it's it's not an insult against Being Mexican I. It's it's a joke about how Michael never gets it right but Michael is also the lead of the show and the person who's point of view or often the one you hope finds love and and I think that would maybe be problematic now whereas if he was a side character that was supposed to be like the racist guy that would be a little bit easier to stomach but he was the person in power but in madman wrong. You know I'm often surprised at what's on. Tv and I just think that sometimes network since studios underestimate what Americans can handle and how sophisticated they are what they watch and has a fear that people will misinterpret a joke or you know. Be like very sensitive in a way that you hadn't expected. Has that been inhibiting your writing in any way. That's such a good question you know we. There's so much in. Never have I ever. That could be construed as offensive but because I think the lead is what people would call like marginalized person like a young Indian American girl. I think we're able to get away with stuff. Because of certain powerlessness that that demographic hasn't society honestly so I think it's easier for our character to lash out or her mother to say things that could potentially be offensive. Because it's like okay. Well you know they don't have a ton of power in this country right now and in terms of other shows I think with why I think students in our could be shy about doing that as I think honestly getting cancelled like. I'm not getting handled like in terms of TV terms but the cancel culture and litigation And fearing that. We're going to be you know the networks going to be the next woody allen getting dropped by His Book Publisher. Tina like for for something that they did. So I do think there's a lot of fear about that stuff that was not there in two thousand four when we started the show. Let's take another show break here. If you're just joining us. My guest is Mindy Caling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which just started streaming on net flicks. We'll talk more after we take a short break. This is fresh air. The world is in a dark place. Find a light with. Npr's hidden brain stories and long-form interviews to brave uncertain times insights to understand yourself hidden brain. Listen and subscribe support for. Npr comes from whyy presenting the podcast. Eleanor amplified and adventure series. Kids love here reporter. Eleanor Atwood crafty villains and solve mysteries as she travels the globe to get the big story available where you get podcasts. Or at WHYY DOT Org. This is fresh air. Let's get back to my interview with Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which is now streaming net flicks. She got her start on the series. The office playing Kelly Kapoor. She was also a writer and producer on the series. When you are on our show in twenty twelve your mother had died within the previous year and we had talked about that. A little bit and you. You had mentioned that when your mother was dying. She had pancreatic cancer and the cancer really changed her. And that nearly a year after her death you were still having trouble remembering your mother from before. She got sick as the memories of her being sick. We're still so vivid in your mind and I knew exactly what you meant because I went through the same thing with my mother when she was very sick with cancer. And I'm wondering if the images of your pre-cancer mother have come back to you as vividly as the post cancer images while I am. I'm not happy that you can relate but it is always so nice when someone who's been through the same thing understands what you're talking about and I was scared for years. That would be the only way that I remember my mother which was sick and tired and bedridden. But I will say that. In having some distance from the time that she's died in particularly by having a daughter I have been able to let that that part of her life kind of recess in my memory and more of more of her as when I was a teenager. And how funny and vibrant and she was when she was in her forties and fifties like that was now has taken over much more of my imagination but having a kid is great. Because I now see my mother as a young mother because I see her through my daughter's eyes of me and so that's been really helpful. 'cause I can ask questions about my mom to my father about her as a young mother and he you know. I'm learning so much more about her. Which is which is great. One of what is what's one of the things that you learned that you didn't know you know just in terms of her schedule because she was an Obgyn who had two small children. And I'd just logistics about her life like you know and as my dad. How did she do this? Spend time with with us and then go and she and he would always say that recently. He told me that she would wake up at five and make all of our food for the week in the in that morning or for like the next two days anyway and then come into our crib and say goodbye to us and then you know kiss us and then leave and then we wouldn't see her until sometimes she wouldn't. We wouldn't even see her that entire day but we'd see her the next day but just hearing about her morning schedule Was Fascinating in your book. Why not me you tell the story about your mother but how you gotTa Trophy at Camp and your mother took it away can you? Can you describe the story? Sure I was in basketball camp and I was terrible at basketball. Which surprising to probably no one but at the end of the basketball camp I got a I think it was a participation trophy and I brought it home and I was show proud of it and my mother Picked it up and I told her my mom about it and she said You didn't get this for doing anything. And she I think either. Throw it away or hid it away or something but it was very devastating to me as a kid that she had taken this. What I thought was like some kind of harder award for my inherent goodness and just throwing it away but that was a really big deal for her is awards and things getting hooked on the feelings of awards when you don't deserve them. I don't think she liked that about a lot of American culture in in education. Because I think there's lots of stuff like that growing up in my elementary school. I felt like there's a lot of like let's make everyone feel good just for being themselves and she did not subscribe to that at all here. So how do you reconcile higher? Mother tried to bring you up with the emphasis on boosting self esteem. And which direction do you think you're going to head in as a mother? It's more Important because I think boosting ourselves name was not important to my mom I don't think at all it was not something that occurred to her. It's so I think that for me it is more important. It's just different parenting styles. Like I I do think there is some value in In praise for you know like my daughter will do something Like she won't drop her food on the floor. I will praise her for that because I want her to feel good about not doing those things that we have. I'd have a little bit of a different parenting style than my mom. In that way I do give a lot of positive reinforcement for Simply not doing bad things and I don't think she was really that way Michaela. It's just been a pleasure to talk with you. I wish you good health during this really terrible period of the pandemic and good health to your daughter and your father and all the people who care about. Thanks Terry thank you so much for having such a pleasure talking to you as usual. Mindy tailings new series never have I ever is now streaming on net flicks tomorrow on fresh air. Our guest will be Aliya volts whose parents had a roaring business baking and selling marijuana laced brownies. Two hippies artists office workers and activists in San Francisco in the seventies her new memoir about growing up in this family in a period spanning the counterculture the early growth of the Gay Liberation Movement and the AIDS epidemic. A hope. You'll join us. We'll close with a recording by Philadelphia based tenor saxophonist. Buzi Barnes who died Wednesday of covert nineteen eighty two. He was a staple of the Philadelphia Jazz scene for decades and helped many musicians from philly. Gather start. This is his nineteen ninety eight reporting of street of dreams Fresh Air's executive producer is Danny Miller. Our Technical Director and engineer is our do Bentham our interviews and reviews produced and edited by Amy Salad. Fitness Myers stemberger Lauren. Crendall Heidi Soman Theresa Madden Moves. Eighty Fayette challenor. And Seth Kelly our associate producer of digital media. Is Molly Seavy Nesper? Roberta shorrock directs the show. I'm Terry Gross.
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Support for NPR and the following message for parents come from NPR and NPR member stations support your local station at NPR dot org slash stations. That's it that to the show? Welcome back to what's in a while. The game show that separates the. From the what? Hurry Mindy. It's time to move on to today's round our category for today. In the please tell our contestants how the game works. We are about to present you with three scientific facts about color, but and this is a big, but only one of those facts will be a true. How the other two just totally made up. Hurried Mindy Let's get started wows irs, which of the following scientific facts about color is a true scientific. Wow, is it a the human eye can distinguish recognized breed more than any other color, or is it be mosquitoes part? To lighter colors. Or is it see? The first color that human babies can recognize is food. More time is it a? Human I can distinguish or recognize green more than any other color or -squitoes are attracted to lighter colors, or is it see the first color? Human babies can recognize is blue. When, you think you know the answer headed down. To you're still. Check back tomorrow to see if your well is the winning while that before we go, we've got a little scientific challenge for you. We call it operation, color, creator we challenge you to make your own color from scratch, you can mix different paints together combined different colors of crayons. BOOT coloring and FROSTING, and once you've created your original color. Give it A. Is it a Bob? A Wanda and when you finish, see if you can make your color some complimentary friends while you're mixing your colors, notice how some colors were great together and do not experiment with different colors to see what works and what doesn't and once you've created your colors. 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"Pencils. NDO fresh. Osh. Tinker. Clause is a vault. Welcome back to class are crash course in science fun one for the science seekers and invent Torito's of tomorrow. It's day three of week three. So if you're just joining us for the first time, hit pause and go back and listen to the first two episodes of this week don't worry. We'll be here. When you finish this week, we're using inspiration from our wow in the world episode good Habitat Keeping on Day one we had you listened to this episode well, jotting down any. Thoughts, ideas and questions that came to mind yesterday we had you searched through your imagination to come up with a creature and what that creatures habitat would need to help it survive and today. Now that you're an expert on your imaginary creature, it's time to design habitat for it. Now, remember its habitat must help to protected from predators give it access to food and water and fit well with this creatures, characteristics and behaviors sort of like cow mindy gingerbread house ten mansion gingerbread. Mansion. Sort of like how mindy gingerbread mansion offers protection from the weather, but also serves as a snack when I eat. Aw. Go ahead and draw picture of the habitat design from your mind and don't forget to label the specific parks and meet us back here tomorrow for day four of tinker class when we'll bring your habitat designed to life and grown-ups if you'd like principle to go along with these free daily project. VISIT TINKER CAST DOT com slash membership to find out more thanks for tinkering with us. Now, go forth and keep on wowing.
"Name WHOA Burgers. Thank you and welcome to the ninety second far your sources to follow regarded Hedda farm theater. Now I'm pleased to present to you the winner of this year's coveted most sustainable award and also best Llama costume design. mandate mindy. Everything's Fine mini-war. Were YOU ASLEEP? No ahead my blackout sunglasses on. And you're supposed to be driving this ice cream truck. I take off the sunglasses. Oh it's what happened. Mendis the sunset almost thirty minutes ago. Have you been asleep this whole time? I've been talking to you about my new high intensity Yoga Wadis class for the past. Two hours Kenny who hadn't like driving at night anyway. Too many owls. And where are we? Even here grabbed the steering wheel and check the map. I put that Matt believe the Earth See. I can't walking my you. Sorry okay Let me see here. Where are we on our road trip of roadside attractions? Let's see here We saw the red sox that the team was named after Boston Shack Cow. We saw that famous bell in Philadelphia. Too Bad it was broken. Okay but but where are we right now? I don't know you don't know no. I can't see our little blue dot moving anywhere on this matter. Moving blue dot mindy vets paper Mab not a GPS. Yeah I knew that Let's figure out where we are. Great Idea Iras here pulled the mattress right. Check out all these places. We visited Seattle New York. San Francisco Lizard Lick North Carolina. Frankenstein Missouri homeadvisor. This really has been some road trip on yet and still let me more to see us. Just hoping you'll ice cream truck can hold out for that long outside where we have a little more light from the night sky. Quo Isn't even brighter out of here. Then I realized I think it must be a full moon can thing reggie isn't here. Why is that so I haven't this working theory? That Reggie is aware pigeon where pigeon yet like aware wolf but instead he's pigeon. Yeah I got it man. I wonder if we can also spot the Earth's second moon out here Earth's second Moon Earth other Moon Mindy. I don't know how to break this to you but Birth only has one moon. It's about thirty five hundred kilometers or twenty one hundred miles across and three hundred eighty thousand kilometers or two hundred thirty six thousand miles away from us. Not Pretty sure we've got to. Maybe you're thinking of Mars. Mars has two moons demos and Phobos or Jupiter Jupiter has seventy nine looms. I'm talking about Earth Guy Roz. There's that moon up there the moon but there's also twenty twenty cd three twenty twenty CD three tell you a little story. Once upon a time on a dark and quiet night not too. Long ago and astronomer from the Catalina Sky Survey in Arizona gazed up into the night sky and noticed a little object whizzing by the star. Scientists ran to the phone and called up all of his astronomer friends from across the World Malaysia and asked to look up into the night sky to to see if they could also spot this object. And what did they find well with the help of his other astronomer friends from around the globe he was able to predict that this object has been orbiting. Earth for at least a year maybe even three orbit is an object gets caught in a larger objects gravity in starts spinning around it right like how. Earth and the other planets orbit around the sun or how the moon orbits around US exact Torino's but unlike the moon which orbits the Earth in pretty much every twenty seven days this little guy twenty twenty CD three takes around four months to orbit us here on Earth Goddess but twenty twenty three is also different to our moon in one other crucial way will. What's that Mindy so our moon has what astronomers call a stable orbit? Oh I know about stable orbits Mindy. It's like that old fairy tale which one Hansel and gratitude burke. Oh Joe White No Jack. In the beanstalk. What prince in the peanut butter the three little gig workers little red riding hoodie creeping beauty puts ensued? What is it Ghairat? Goldilocks and the three bears. Well let me explain indy. Four an object to enter into a stable orbit around a planet or a star. It has to be traveling at just the right speed too fast and the objects go whizzing out at the space too low and the object is dragged into whatever its orbit. What if they were say rockets from Earth at went out and put a speed? That was just right then. They enter a stable orbit and for earth. Scientists have figured out exactly what that speed is. What is it anywhere between seventeen thousand and twenty five thousand miles per hour fast so anything slower than nats and it falls into. Earth's atmosphere usually early up in our atmosphere and anything moving faster the well it just gets flung off base like a catapult. Oh just like us when we go through a balding on three. We're GonNa Bush shoe hard though. Where's Mindy so as I was saying mindy? If you have an object in orbit that's going faster than twenty five thousand miles per hour. Then it gets flung off into space and so those kind of orbits the ones where they either fall into the planet or get thrown out into space those must be called stable orbits right. That's right mindy. I knew it. I was reading in the report that those astronomers put out that twenty twenty CD. Three has an unstable orbit does. Yeah in even though it's been hanging around in our neck of the Galactic Woods for at least a year or two doesn't mean it's going to stick around forever. What do you mean? I'll it's going a little too fast to maintain a stable orbit so any day now. Twenty twenty three is going to fling back off into outer space. You know it. Kinda sad ha- oh we just got there but it's kind of like this road trip. We're on stopping in all of these amazing cities seeing the sides and then just off to our next to mission. I guess you're right Mindy. I'm right. Hey did you want to see if we can spot it spotted mindy? I thought you said this was many moon. How are we going to spot it out? Here with our bare is going to do it with our bare is. We're not of course we're not. I've got my telescope in the back of this ice cream truck. Why do you have a telescope in the back of your ice cream truck? Mindy I can see what's coming up ahead on the road. What when you're cruising down the wide open road with the telescope like you can see the future and what helped me set it up. Sure get out of the back here. Like some of this stuff kind of shifted around on the drive over here. GotTa be here somewhere. See Out nope. That's just an empty strangles can crimes. He got up. Here thrive pot. A mountain. Hotel was go go all right go to rally. I spotting I am all right all right. Let's take a look mindy due to right. Let's see here. Oh I see a Ryan's belt and look beetlejuice and Bella tricks. I can even see Mars tonight. But really really see that star up there with the reddish tinge but I don't see any many moon well it's pretty hard to spot even if you do have a telescope. The astronomers who originally spotted it were using superpower telescopes and observatories. So what are we GONNA do me? I don't worry. Iras pay invented this telescope myself. Let me just chlorine got the power here. Hold on a second. Is he not yet? How about now? Don't Oh what does it look like again mindy? Well according to the astronomers at the Catalina Sky Survey the mini moon is about to buy three and a half meters across or six feet by eleven and a half feet so roughly the same size as your ice cream truck. Yeah but the thing is is is cream truck and it should be whizzing across the night sky at a pretty quick. I think I see something. Mindy Blair right up there a check it out. Let me see what. You're seeing that telescope up there that that object moving across the night Sky Mindy. It's not stationary like the other stars and it's moving way too fast to be plane. Yeah cehic Oh sorry to break it to you but adds well. How can you tell well for wine? It's linking Oh yeah twenty twenty CD. Three dozen link. I guess nope remember the Mini Moon. Twenty twenty CD. Three just a hunk of junk that got caught in the earth's gravity. It would be a lot duller than that and it wouldn't be blinking. So what are we looking at? Well could be a bunch of different things but when it probably is is a satellite a satellite. You mean like the kind of machine helps Jimmy Directions on my phone. That's one example but there are a ton of different machines flying around the earth that help us with a whole bunch of different things like tracking weather patterns or connecting phone calls or looking out into space. Yeah what if the most famous satellites we have orbiting? The Earth is called Hubbell telescope. Who I know the Hubble telescope. It's the largest telescope in space. It's been helping us take pictures of far away galaxies for the past thirty years. You know it so what we're looking at up. There is a satellite Yup. It could even be the International Space Station nationals base station even the International Space Station is considered a satellite and sometimes on a clear night. You can see blinking. Its way across the night sky. Cool but we are looking for is what astronomers call a natural satellite right and I'm guessing that a natural satellite is an object that's orbiting around the Earth. That wasn't manmade. You got it okay. Well let's take one last look through this telescope and see if maybe we can find twenty twenty CD three you know. Some astronomers think it might have already left our orbit really. Yeah but let's take a look anyway. You never know we might get lucky. Okay well let's give it a go. Let's see here. How what is it? Maybe Mindy Mindy. I think I Yes it's a dark small object whipping its way across the sky. Check it out see distinct. Yeah you'd better take a good look at it mindy. It might be the last time we ever see it well. Did you say there was going to leave our orbit in the next few months and that it takes four months for to make one orbit of the Earth. You're right probably say our goodbyes. Twenty twenty little cutest little mini moon. We ever looks like this. Asteroids vacationed earth is about over yeah Say Mindy Mindy what you said. Say What is it? Did we ever figure out how far away that next town is forgot The map is still on the hood of the trucking up. Walk Walk Walk. What year burned. Okay so how far away are we gonna be pretty close now not close enough? Tell me about it. And we still have so many more places to see. There's Bengal tigers and Cincinnati. The Lost City of Atlanta Mindy Chilean Tulsa is supposed to be amazing. Wow water will be right back. This message is for you. Heidi Dresner is home. Schooling her three kids because their schools are closed. One day it was too much so I said everybody get in the car. We put on the black eyed peas than we sang and we danced. It worked how Heidi and a lot of other folks are parenting while teaching in the midst of Corona virus on. It's been a minute from NPR. That's it back to the shell. Hi thanks for calling in the world after the BEEP GET READY TO RECORD. Eireann MY NAME. Lydia and I'm from Yukon Oklahoma. My while in the world is there a one in one thousand four hundred sixty one chance of being elite. David I am weekday. They hire Reggie for me. Hi Mindy Garage. 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So, You've Been Swallowed By A Frog...
"Hey how's her fans mindy here and if you missed the big news last week l.. And are coming out with a new. Wow in the world book. That how the wow of the human body. It's full of guts and butts and belly buttons and brains a top to bottom tour of your insides and your outsides. It's available for preorder now. So check it out visit tinker cast dot com slash shops for more to how how of the human body coming. March. Second. Twenty twenty. One. Hindi. In This early in the morning. Feeling. You tell. Me You. Can't you? Talking my constitutional right through peaceful sweep. Oh. Let me hear you read loudly. Yeah Mandy care for a couple of decaffeinated a stress. I call it a depress Oh. Now thanks a lot dentist but I'm trying to cut back. I'm just out here to wake up the neighbourhood for a little early morning mindfulness sash ood. Morning in the Morning. Dennis did I hear someone say mindfulness I love mindfulness breathing meditation. Relaxation guided imagery. The World Wide Web is all is dragged. Their imaginary. Imaginary Walleye up. Just, pinch me grandma jeep four. Well, someone better pinch may because this is a dream come true I've never had the whole neighborhood here in front of my house before. Do. Hey Wow that pinch was as good as a cup of coffee. I'll call it a compress. Oh No no grandma forest there is no pinching in mindfulness all the marriage everyone's you can choose the mind. Actually practicing mindfulness helps you to focus on being aware of what your sensing and feeling in the moment. This. Fourth. Would you credit time nine fool enough? Okay. No more. King. Shing. Mindy Mindy when are we going to start this morning mindfulness exercise? I don't know what about now. No, better time to be in the present and the present, right Oh, speaking of presence that reminds me I have to conduct roll calls. Now when I shot your name Yell Resit Dennis residents very good Dennis Reggie. Reggie. Just say your name please no one likes a smarty pigeon. So. Should we just take a seat where we're standing? Yes. I everyone to just get situated on the ground in a comfortable seated position. In the throat mind me. Just bones. Rouse. Now one. All right now I'm just GONNA run back to ice cream truck to turn on some mindful music. So just sit there and breathe or something. I want everyone lows your honor. Rock I. The. Today. I want you to focus Sir intention on allowing yourself to receive the gift of a little self scare. What she's Scare. Oh. I. Get it like self hand but spooky. Little. Fouled. Scam. And as you're breathing imagine. You. Water. GAMP bring. Lily Pad. Oh What you see. What is it? Wrong I'M GONNA kick. Do that you'll get rabies. Can't get rabies. But what time I got rabies nine? Don't interrupt me. Remove. Looks Hungry and? Her Big Bowl King is. On. Thoughts exactly pigeon this scourge meditation at Freak, me out do. Present. Stay in present. Oh. Guy Rise we should all hide from the rock inside of a president. It'll never find us in there. Run. Off? One Know. Those crime twinning of Bailey. Sorry. Now. Realized by Beer Her Wrong. With her own. Now. Thanks. Four you can. Die. Chest idea that you are inside of big. Frog now. She takes one big goal. She swallows you. Know I want out of this meditative self scare calm down Fila it's not even mets scary. Miss Rasi over there, I am swallowed alive. I. Am inside of a frock I am still in the present you. Find. What happens next mindy. Realize that you must get your tiny beetle body out of this frog. You ask yourself. What what a bomb deer beetle do? A Bombardier Beetle surely let out a tube. So powerful. Force me and Vivian to bark you up. What do? You are not a shooting Bombardier beetle are not. You are a Japanese water beetle goes by the scientific name Reagan Bhartiya ten you. And you. Liked to do things the hard way. So lighten. Just stay in the present stay in the present no guy remember you're not in a president you're in a frog. In your tiny beetle legs to brace you, you begin to crawl in. Your way through the frogs digestive track. As you work your way through and gut. Own. Stomach juices the. But you. going. Your way the frog that. I? Think. I think Dan. I think guy can. Razzie. This point you realize you've gone as far as you can ride down the digestive slide and there is only one. Way. Oh. Look everyone away out what is it like a secret door on the side of the frog or something you. Don't think it's on the side of the frog of you know what I mean. No I actually don't know what you mean. We're. GonNa make an exit out the Oh you? Know. Find. What appears to be an opening of sorts but it's closed tightly shut. The Times. Opening released. Come. Our into the. Get A. OF FRESH RAW Wind. Disgusting Mindy War kind of guided meditation was that. Defecation Meditation. Fuel excuse me I need to go wash out my mind's eye. Yeah. Me Too. You got me so well let's see I've got Hanso. Body. So so far. Everyone, now yourselves around applies. Mindy, where in the world did you get the idea for that horrifying guided meditation? Oh well, I got the idea from science science specifically this bonker balls new study that I just read from Kobe University in. Japan. It was led by this biologist named Shinji S- Aguirre. Wait a minute I've read about him. He's been studying the strange behaviors of insects and predators for years, and he's seen a lot of weird stuff in his day. Yeah. Like bugs who went eaten by frog make the frog vomit so they can avoid being swallowed him escape alive yeah. In the Bombardier Beetle is a pretty good example of that after a frog gobbled it up. To out this hot chemicals, right? That is so gross and so foul. makes. A frog puke all over the place, allowing the beetle to escape the frog and live to tell the tale. You mentioned that in your defecation meditation. Any who this study was about a completely different beetle. A Japanese water beetles goes by this super long scientific name Reagan Bardia Ten, you want out. That's a mouthful even for a frog. Yeah. I thought about calling Reagan Bardia Regi for sure but. Even. So any- who Dr Sue Vera had been noticing these beetles and frogs hanging out together around the lily pad fields in. Japan so he brought one beetle and one frog back to his lab so he could study how they. Interacted with each other and was surprised when the frog eating the. Well surprised that when the frog eight, the beetle, it didn't spit it right back out live beetles are not exactly known for their flavor tastes. Ain't nobody WANNA know that. But according to the disgusting Gross Mindset Exercise You just put me through the frog must have swallowed the beetle giving it a journey through its intestines you. And just a couple of hours later the beetle having taken a little ride down the frogs digestive slide shot. Out of the frogs Clo-, wake up covered in hoop. Airman at. Out It's Well not just. But the CLO- weak- is kind of a a one stop shop that frogs and other animals used for pooping peeing lay eggs. Now that sounds like a handy little multitude. Where can I get one what? Sorry, Mr. Fingerling Klay Waco's are not for most mammals. Reggie would like everyone to know that he has a Khloe guy. In fact, all birds do. Reggie now need to brag about it. An. Excuse me. Can we get back to the study? Please Mindy you were saying that after the beetle worked its way through the frogs, they have cracked it shot out of the same hold the frog uses to. Defecate. Well defecate is more polite way of saying poop. Now Guy. Not You too. Oh what goes in must come out and when you're this particular beetle. Using the back door and that is not even the most amazing part. It's not nope what doctors gear discovered was truly bonker balls when the fraud food out of. The beetle was still a lie. Oh. Agit. That's right. The frog eats the beetle. The beetle emerges from the frogs behind up pile of poop. Like that death defying journey never even happened. Hold. On a second the that's impossible. I mean first of all, how would a Beatles survived being chewed up by a frog? Will. That's easy. See these pond frogs don't have T. so they just have them gobble and swallow their prey whole. Okay. Okay. Well, how could the beetle possibly survived the franz corrosive stomach acids no I mean the whole purpose of these digestive juices to tear apart breakdown anything that the frog eats. Well Dr. Sagir. I had the same question and he thinks that the exoskeleton or protective. Of the Beatles is probably strong enough to withstand being digested by a frog, but he'll need to do more research before he can say for sure. Okay. But how was it able to breathe that whole time? It was swimming through the frogs digestive tubes. I know it's own water beetle but still well doctores. Aguirre suspects that since this aquatic beetle can trap air under its wing cases to breathe underwater, well, it could probably do the same to breathe inside of a frog. No further questions your honor. Bound get a part where the bug starts knocking on the back door if you know what I made. So once the beadle reaches the end of the APP. Tunnel it's gotta find a way back out but the problem is there is an obstacle in its way, and that obstacle is a little ring of muscle holding that Khloe full close. Like drawstring bag cinching, shut larger drawstring on my Hoodie. there. I'M COOL So wait a minute mindy are you saying that the beetle has to get that muscle to loosen up before it can escape from the frogs behind us? And after some. Rotting, and maybe I'll little knocking. Muscle loosens the flow wake-up open. And out POPs. The beadle up. Fresh Frog. Nasty and what about the beetle what happens after its pooped out alive From what Doctors Aguirre could tell the beetle just goes on to live like it never even happened. It pulls itself out of food and goes back to swimming around and living. It's little beetle life. Drama, on Lady, I just washed my mind's eye anything for science. So Mindy, are we sure that this wasn't just a one time thing I mean scientists have to conduct their experiments more than once to make sure that their findings are consistent Oh. Yeah. After this Doctor Gero One on to conduct this experiment five more times including some different beatles, species and different insect eating frogs and what did he find well found that over ninety percent or most of the time the Reagan Bardia beadle made it out alive and went on to live happily ever after but the other Beatles weren't so lucky union so The protective exoskeleton or shell on the Reagan Bardy a beetle for their any other clues to how it was able to survive. And those clues lie in the legs the legs yet when the Reagan Bardia beadle had full use of its legs managed to pop out the other end between six minutes and six hours after it was followed by a frog. Okay. But when Dr Sagir I made it difficult for the beetle to use its legs by covering them with wax. Well, the digestion took days and the beetle did not make it out alive. So by conducting this experiment, he was able to determine. What he was able to determine that the beetle was using its legs to crawl through the frogs intestines exact. Does that beetle was plotting it's escape route from the very beginning, but I guess it's kind of hard to know for sure without seeing inside the frogs intestines. Yeah. Sometimes even scientists have to use their imaginations. Hey, speaking of imagination mindy I do mind if I lead us all through a little mindful guided meditation Oh. Yes. Sure but You'RE GONNA be able to. Corral. Zero. Ran. Out. 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Here Comes The Sun-Powered Energy!
"By this guy, this guy here. Arm guy this guy. Who could that possibly be at seven in the morning? Coming each you think personal have patients, especially at this hour who is delivery from earth giant, long dot com. For me that can't be right? I always buy my stuff from local shops. I mean earth giant lung dot com. Just temps people to buy stuff. They don't need. Good morning. Good morning. I've got some packages. Here. Got this one. Wait a minute. You've got like a hundred and fifty packages behind you. Are you? Sure there for me says right here on the package guy Rasi next door to the gingerbread mansion. And here we go this one that wait a minute. These packages are dressed to Mindy guy. Roz mindy? Oh, you mean her? What is going on? Cabins permitting coming along. Well. What is going on to deal with a little delivery from earth's giant lung dot com? A small delivery. There's like fifty boxes coming back from one hundred and ninety box to be precise. The ninety two boxes and anyway, why are half of them being delivered to my house? Oh, so turns out earth's giant lung dot com has a limit on how many boxes that they'll deliver to a single address. So I had to put yours down to hope you don't mind. Mindy one of you ordered? I mean, I know you've got a food truck. And all but I mean, this can't be cricket powder for your BBQ truck. It's not cricket powder guy rose. Why would it need so much cricket powder? Well, what could you have possibly ordered? Oh, well, just the other day was sitting at home minding, my own bees wax, when my Zoodles told me that it was cyber Monday, cyber funday will what are you talking about? Oh, so cyber funday is the day when all of these shopping websites like earth giant lung dot com. Have deals on everything you could ever want and everything you didn't. Even know you wanted all these toys and Blitzer bombs and unicorns that poop rainbows and unicorns potatoes in cheesy pick ovens and keychains novelty gives inspirational decorative plates. See this one says love laugh live. It even got in on it. Dennis tell would you order born hundred veget- spinners, they were overstocked twenty seventeen will never be restless again. Oh, I'm bored. Mindy? I I don't understand. Are you? Sure, you need all this stuff. Yes. Of course. I don't need it Geyer is it was Colin fail. I use the money that I made from those energy bars that Reggie ni- sold to his paleo pigeon, friends and boy Howdy. We made a fortune on those things I walked away from that business venture with a thousand dollars. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. You're telling me you made a thousand dollars profit from selling birdseye paleo energy bars, and you decided to spend it on a bunch of a bunch of junk wealth. You know, what you always say guy Roz one birds trashes other birds treasure what I don't see that. Yeah. You do remember last week when Reggie night helped you fish at all those old plastic bottles and aluminum cans from Dennis trash. Hey, reg over here. Can you give me a hand I'm going through Dennis track? And he's not recycling. Anything? I mean, fish all these bottles and cans out of this trash bin. You want us to help you denizens grass? Well, as I always say, reg, one birds trash is another bird treasure. The now do you remember ho ho? Yeah. But, but I was talking about trash that could actually be recycled and turned into something new because otherwise all that trash gets dumped into a giant trash dump or landfill. And well, that's not good for our environment. Making down guy arroz talking about rash. Turning into treasure meant recycling. Yes. Oh and shushing by these one hundred ninety boxes actually one hundred ninety two boxes, but it was doubting. Judging by those one hundred ninety two boxes you actually generated more trash, right? Right. You know, what they say one person's trash is another person's toilet paper. Dispenser that plays Christmas songs. Hubby PU year. My wife by enabled bluetooth, ready, egg, beater, earings rash. Well, yes. I mean. No. I mean. Yes. Look at all the plastic and cardboard out here. All these things you've ordered are packed in stuff. That's going to go in the trash lets us recycling will Mindy. Unfortunately, that's not going to solve the problem. Of course. It will. What are you talking about guy rose haven't you heard? I heard what well for the past few decades. A lot of our recycling things like paper and plastic and glass has actually been shipped off to China to get recycled. Thank you. China except over the past year. China has told the world that it can't take all of our junk anymore. What why not well, we humans have generated too much of it and recycling all of that crash has become too difficult for China. Ooh. So what does that mean for how we recycle our garbage? Will. It means that in many cities in America, and even other countries they stopped recycling. Just Dopp brief cycling like Dennis Mendy. I didn't stop recycling. I never started gay Roz if they're not recycling than what's happening with all of that cardboard and plastic well a lot of it is being incinerated or burned. Well, that sounds like a pretty good plan to me. Well, unfortunately, it's not because every time you burn this stuff. He creates pollution in our air pollution that makes our air dirty. That isn't good for us guy rise town great. What can we do about it? Well, the first thing we can do is not buy so much stuff. But the cyber funday sales worsened good not buying so much stuff going to help the planet because many every time we buy something. It means that energy had to be used to make it and energy or most of the energy. We currently use creates carbon dioxide, oh, are you talking about the same carbon dioxide that's making our planet. Hotter. Exactly. And most of the factories that make the stuff we buy have to use fossil fuels to create or generate that energy boscell fuels garage. Whenever I think of fossil fuels, I think of fossil's like in dinosaurs. Or are you talking about those kinds of Basel's? Well, yeah, I mean, hey, I have an idea. I love ideas. What's the status of? Oh, wow. Machine these days. Oh, well, it's breaking down all the time and leaking dirty hot dog water for some inexplicable reason. Oh, and there's a bunch of pigeon feathers stuck to the windshield. But other than that say it's perfect. Why thinking about taking a little boscell fueled trip? Well, we could go back in time to find out. How fossil fuels were created. Yes. Okay. I'll meet you at the machine and just a minute. I gotta get my new portable airbag vox. While you're getting ready. I'm just gonna why head over to the garage. Okay. Yard. Wow machine. I can look back on. Here. Exactly will I suppose if we wanna see the origins of fossil fuels we need to go back to the carbon Niffer period. I was just the carbon dippers period birthday party. It's the geological age that started more than three hundred fifty million years ago. That's the one can you set the dial. You got it see here three hundred and fifty million years ago. Just punch in ordinance year any specific location. We could just stay here in North America. Right. Where we are right now. North America carbon for his period and here. Might some e. I think I'm going to bar. We direct this program for a brief break while in the world will return in three two one. Mindy Hugh, really should consider eating whole grains for breakfast. Glad got that out of my system. Now what hurry let's get this. Hatch open -kay opening. These guy Roz man, this place, sir, beats my aunt Mojo's collection of indoor burns many. This is what our planet earth looked like three hundred fifty million years ago. So green lush and untouched. I guess it's good for us. At dinosaurs aren't gonna come around for at least one hundred million warriors. So while we have the time. Let's go take a walk. Sure. Let me just get my mud boots on hang on. Okay. Got him on. I'm ready Mindy. Many. Trying to find some of those fossil fuels you were talking about ways up. I just need to climb out of the well machine. How? Do you think it really is beautiful out here? We know it's incredible. Roz booking all these plants in right now, we are three hundred fifty million years in the past. So does that mean that as we get closer and closer to the present that all of these plants and turned into the fuels that we humans will use power, our factories and cars and airplanes and all that over the next several hundred millions of years, all of these plants around us, we'll get covered by layers of soil and rocks. That's a lot of centuries for these plans to be pushed under all of that weight pressure. Exactly. And with all of that pressure from the millions of years of more rocks or soil covering the plants. Well, Benchley these plants will have no choice, but to turn into mushy. Goo exactly and some of that coup will become petroleum or oil and some of it will turn into Poland gas. Hey mindy. I have an idea. You still happen to have that fast forward wand in your toolbag actually fast forward. One was bread stick. So I ate it. But lucky for you. I do have my flip forward van right here. In my adventure tool bags somewhere here, battery operated, marshmallow, rotator and new. Your cat in here. George Foreman grill. Here. It is might flip forward. Little rusty. What? Also. God. I poured them Saul site in my mentor told kit last week just in case it came across some chips. But the good news is. The Ford fans still work just fire. This the. Thing is blowing. Guy. Rod. About one million times faster. Everything around us. By layers of. Some of it's turning into some of the control you look over there. Those plans turning into natural. Parvenik party of Bod. I what. Anaerobic decomposition, which is a scientific term for well materials being broken down into new material. And in three hundred fifty million years from now humans will discover this fuel underground. You'll that will be used to power. Our cars and airplanes factories, even the lights use in our home that is credible Skyros on band. Starting to flip the out of control hit earth. Was close. Check it out guy. Roz looks like my lip Ford fan. Brought us all the way up to the eighteen hundreds. This is when humans started to dig this stuff out of the ground. And look over there. Is that a giant oil? Looks like a huge slow motion hammered going up and down and up and down in wind giant hammer thing moves back and forth. It seems to be sucking up from deep down in the ground bringing to the service. Let's go check it out and see if we could take a sample of some of that oil come on love free sample. Turn it into energy wants this oil is refined or cleaned up a bit. It turns into material that is very easy to burn wanted earns. It gets really hot. And all of that heat is used to generate or creates steam that makes a Shaya meal or turbine, go round and round powerplant that one big power plant in our town, the one with the giant smokestack. That's exactly right win that bind goes around around. It makes electricity which is why we can have lights on in the house and TV's plugged into the walls and factories that can make that stop you ordered for births giant lung dot com, which news like a really good thing. But it also means that we're burning these fuels, and when we first off week create Arben Dayaks. That's right. Same carbon dioxide. Side that's making our planet hard. If we keep this up nowhere winter. Well, it's a little more complicated. Because it also means that as our planet gets warmer. Our weather gets a little crazier. Oh, yes. Look, how some places on the planet might get too much rain while other places don't get any rain at all exactly. This is what people mean when they talk about climate change man, will I have noticed that we've been getting some storms in the past few years and Mindy unless we human start to work on this problem soon, we could get even crazier storms in the future. I've got an entire adventure tool kit full of inventions. What can I do to help out? Well, I'm glad you asked when I head back to the wow machine. And I'll show you something. I just installed in my house. You felt something without my help. Yup. I gotta see this just open a hatch ear. Okay. I'm in. All right. Let's get back to the present day just punching our coordinate and here we. That we lost an entire side panel. What was that? Cool installation. Be wanna show me? Yeah. It's on my roof. I've put in this special safety ladder helpless climb up. Come on. Shamikh shimmy, shimmy, shimmy, shimmy shipping to meet the shimmy. Are these? So organic not just that look over there Mindy. You put in a wind turbine. Yep. It it just had them set up a few days ago mall, the energy oh ever need right here using the good old fashioned power of wind and the sun in I'm guessing these are those renewable sources of energy that don't burn fossil fuels and create carbon dioxide exactly you don't need to burn anything to get a trilogy from the sun and the wind because they're always here. So that means that energy is generated from wind and sun or clean and more and more countries around the world are trying to use some powered solar energy and wind power wind energy Danis get lot of this wind turbine, if we all start using this stuff, we could stop putting all that carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. That's so cool. Can I ride it, and hopefully we can slow down how hot our planet will get a man IRAs. This reminds me of. This story that I just read about the sixteen year old girl named credit Thunberg fun Bor Thunberg. Yeah. She's a student in Sweden who's trying to get kids from all over the world to tell their run-ups stop using all of those old fossil fuels go on and a few weeks ago. Kids around the world marched through their cities and towns holding signs making noise demanding ups, listen to them because all of the kids in the world today. We'll have to work extra hard to clean up the mess left behind by health. Grownups who've been using all this vessel fuel energy for the last two hundred years. Exactly Reto Skyros. And if we start making different choices about the way that we live now. Well, we can make a pretty big difference for the future starting with a few simple decisions. How what are you thinking? Well for starters, we should try to buy as much food as we can. In its natural state. So to be clear, you're not talking about individually wrapped bags of pre sliced grape flavored apple slices. Well, no, actually, we should just try to buy apples sliced ourselves or fresh vegetables and fruits instead of buying stuff. That's packaged in plastic bags and cardboard. Yeah. What else? Well mindy. You could start by cutting down on all the stuff you order from earth's giant lung dot com. I mean, do you really need a solar powered marshmallow Turner is older. Powered so, I guess that's true. But the factory that made that marshmallow Turner had to burn fossil fuels to make it, and then it had to burn more fossil fuels to send it on a ship. And then a truck to get your house. So, you know, if I wanted to do my part, then I could just focus on buying only things that I really need exactly. And instead of all those packets of ketchup and soy's us we use we should politely. Ask restaurants to offer a single dispenser for everyone to use. And instead of those disposable copy cups. We get from Herman Melville's house of coffee Il, we could buy a reusable coffee Cup in news again. And again, I guess we'll have to figure out what to do with all. These heard word boxes that I got from cyber funday will besides cutting down on all the stuff from now on for. Sure. But in the meantime, Reggie. I've got a bunch of cardboard here with your name on. It was wondering if you might be interested in building a brand new shredded cardboard nest. Well, you. Chirons year is looking to do the earth solid. So he will help you shred. Every one of these boxes with scissors and bare hands at soon enough, you'll have a cosy comfy brand new state of the art earth. Friendly recycled cardboard nest read. Come on slackened on the job time to start shredding the planet. Wouldn't like myself in two. Wow. Won't be white back. This message is for you. 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The Karate Kickin' Cockroach (encore)
"Welcome to inside tinker cast studios this show where I reminisce and revisit my favorite. Wow in the world episodes, I'm your host Dennis and today's show. We go back in time to an episode from season three. Reggie not now I'm busy. I already told you what I'm doing. Making a show where I replay, my favorite episodes of wow in the world, but I I talk about them in great detail. Yes exactly I'll over analyze intellectualize philosophize. Well obviously rhapsodised. Well I I'll introduce the episode, and then we'll go to the phone lines to hear from my devoted listeners. There'll be a killing section and then. Sell a great idea. What do you mean? The music sounds too fancy? Pick the music. You're such a smarty pigeon. Music too fancy. I'll show you fancy music. It's not that fancy. What's fancy about a Harpsichord, Harpsichord? That's good. Wow, nice. Oh, let's see what is today's episode looks like Season Three episode to the karate kicking cockroach. I remember this one. I must not be in it. Looney oh. Yeah, that's right. Guy and mindy were dressed up like cockroaches I do. Remember that maybe I am in this one. Could idea I'll read the description. Mindy Signs Guy Rosin yourself up. Karate Lessons Blah Blah Blah costume hijinks Yadda Yadda. COCKROACHES JEWEL WASP sends zombies. Oh. No, no, no, no, no, no, no I don't want to read this. Maybe we should go to the phone lines and here from one of my devoted listeners. I have lots of devoted listeners. Well, no, I'm not actually going to take a live call voice mail. You know for the QNA segment. OKAY HERE WE GO! Reached Dennis from inside Tinker cast studio meet. If you've got a question well, I do too lots of. It's GonNa. Answer all my questions. Probably not. I guess I can answer yours Li Mu Message. Hi Dennis Mindy here a question. Where does dirt come from? Mindy told you this number was for fans only to the roller. Skating! Skip to the next, point. Hi, Dennis Mindy again riddle free you. Know next. HYGENIC mindy here. I'm wondering to borrow my sledgehammer Oh. where? Congratulations? You've been entered into a drawing to win a million dollars. Wait Reggie I. WanNa hear this. Who Claim Your Prize? All you have to do is put my voicemail on the show. I know you're screening my calls. Yeah maybe no voicemails today better put out my call to action though. Do. You have questions. Well may do call and ask me. A question the number is one eight eight eight seven. Wow, wow, I just might answer your question on inside, Tinker Casts Studios. Let's play the episode. Got Idea. Let's do the fancy Hollywood intro. And now inside tinker cast duty out brings to you a special encore presentation of one of my favorite episodes, the nutty kicking cockroach. Rollet. Off. CUCKOO. Kuku shaft Blah Blah Blah. Blah Blah Blah. They, right, mindy come on. We're GONNA be late for karate, class. I just got to put on my. Suit. Karate, soup here it is it came? Here Dora. Abdomen. Head. Walk into a full length mirror. Oh! Hey elected now. What is taking you so long? If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times. Being early is on time. Being on time is late. Good Morning. Ready for our karate lesson, Mindy is that you? Oh, sorry, I guess I should take off my head what? was. has better starting to get sweaty in there many. Why are you dressed up in a giant cockroach suit gay rise? Why would I not be dressed up in giant cockroach suit I? Don't know how I'm supposed to answer that question. Well good news for you. To come on in, and we'll get you all suited up. No I'm only. Mindy forget about our karate class today. Did. You forget about our karate class. Today looks to me like you're still in your bathrobe, Mindy. I'm wearing my correct Taghi. This is the traditional karate. That I had imported from Japan. Do you know how difficult it is to find? One of these things with Elbow Patches Oh. Well I didn't sign up for that kind of karate class. Oh No, I have your email right here. Look let me read it to you, it says. What's kicking little chicken? We are surprise. I've signed US upper karate lessons, peace, love and Pogo sticks your. B F F. F F F. Mindy PS. What do you call a pig that knows karate. Wait for it. A pork chop. Yeah keep reading. That's that's the end yet didn't read the fine print the fine. These glasses on your glasses, so you can see it. Still. Help you. Got It. I got it. They look a little crooked. Okay. Let's see. P. S. S. The sense. Of this class will be the karate-kicking cockroach. Maybe the karate kicking cockroach now I just need you to squeeze yourself into this act, and then put on this abdomen like a pair of Pants Mindy Mindy, last time you put me into an abdomen and Thorax I became the victim of an exploding hint. Well. I can assure you. There will be no exploding and this guy, Roz. Only a bunch of ferocious walk. What this is not your run of the mill karate class? Why can't we ever just do a run of the mill? Anything and the final edition to your cockroach cost you? That had. Diligence either would just your tennis. Readily, There we go. This cockroach, Sudas pinching me okay I can fix that. Just GonNa give you a little. Take. Take Muck muck. Should be better. Feeling surprisingly comfortable now almost cozy. Cozy as a cockroach cupcake up. You're ready to kick it like a karate kick cockroach, actually on second thought that no time for second thoughts Cairo's. Old Owl once told me that being early on time, and that being on time is late again. That wise old owl was me after you. WanNa. WanNa. WanNa. Bening the door. Really hope run into any. Dress like this morning. Guy, warning in Ohio know. What are you wearing? You can't go around like that. What will the neighbours thing? I mean what will I think I'll tell you what I think. He walking. Walking Mindy Tissue Tell Reggie when we needed him to pick us. Up Oh Reggie The New York City's central park at a family reunion man with all the pigeons there that must be a giant family reunion. Let's walk and Talk Iras. Mindy we can walk down. The street dressed like giant cockroaches. Look out world. Looks like included for takeoff Halloway. Route me into these things wattle. WADDLED waddle. WADDLE! In awhile now that would be there. was only like two and a half centimeters from us on the map, Mindy, when are we gonna get to this karate studio. Take us. Did you know that a cockroach can live for a whole week without its head? Because they don't need their heads our mouths to breathe instead they breathe through these tiny little holes, if bodies hush so then what causes them to eventually die? They die of thirst see cockroaches need their mouth drink. Water bodies without Valpo. Get any. Hey ROSCO. Did you know that will one day old baby cockroach? The size of a speck of dust can run as fast as its parent which is three miles an hour. On those tiny legs speaking of legs. Did you know that cockroaches have eight teen knees? Six legs three joins on each leg here. Do. You know that a cockroach can hold its breath for forty minutes. Did you know that ancient cockroaches were living at the same time as dinosaurs. Parts of the world you can buy deep. Fried coverage is on a stick and eaten as a snack. What did you know that the human heads eight pounds? Mindy worse all going. We're here I. Will Not Take One step in this hot and steamy cockroach suit what we did. Did you say we're here? Well? If standing in front of a storefront with a sign, that says Kickin Cockroach, karate means we're here than the I'm pretty sure this is the place karate karate. Karate mini I know Webster's dictionary, but I'm pretty sure that karate is not spilled. Carrot today C. A. R.. R. O. T. T. A. Y. Carrot Tae. Well that just must mean that. This is an unaccredited karate school well, it is taught by a cockroach. Deep breaths. Hello. Everyone! Readings cockroach friends I see. We have our first students. We're just a couple of real cockroaches hoping to learn some chaotic. Say Well. You've come to the right place in this class, you will be instructed by an unlicensed an unprofessional cockroach. Wait, could you just say? and. It all happens in our state of the Ark. Facility sounds good to me before we start the class. I'll just need you to sign a few forms. Let me see these forms. This class may result in wasp stings zomba vacation diarrhea. Sign me up. Or. Do you want my autograph right here and here in over here? Here and here and here I'm sorry I just can't use a pen to sign these forms with. These. Cockroach beat Burhan's allowed me to sign for you. Do. You think this is a good idea. Get of course I. Don't think this is a good idea. There we go all signed now before I. Introduce you to your sense. Say I'm going to have you watch a brief video. Break Video Laszlo. Are you a cockroach. No, yes, cockroach, sick and tired of being stunned jewel, wasps, Samba fide, and then fed to little wasp babies. Why yes, if one were Joel Wasp price to turn me into Zombie? I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'm probably not going to do anything because I will be baby wasp food at that point. Guard place here kick cockroach Kiro tape. We make a sandwich out of the latest scientific research and awesome moved. Moves that'll help you. Break your brains free from the clutches of the evil jewel was. Are. You sure this is a karate class. I mean zombies Wasp Scientific Research. Oh Yeah so when a jewel wasp finds a cockroach. Swooping and seeing the cockroach in two places one stinging, it's lower abdomen. Paralyze basically freezes front legs, and one thing to it's rain, what and with that sting? Iras come as an tion of poisonous venom. Venomous sting that turns that car. Into a Zombie. Basically once that happens. The Wasp is able to control the cockroach. Oh Ya, and at that point, the wasp grabs the Zombie cockroach by the antennas drags it into a whole like a dog on a leash, and they're the Wasp Blazin egg on the Cockroach, when that egg hatches the larvae burrows. It's way down into the cockroach and one that's done. It pops back out of the cockroaches. But scientific research has shown US cockroaches that there is a better way. And that's what we're GONNA learn today in kicking cockroach care. Scientific Research Oh. Yeah, so I was just reading this amazing new study conducted by a scientist named Dr Kenneth Catania. He's a biologist at Vanderbilt University, in Nashville Tennessee and what was the study well Dr Catania wanted to see up close. What if anything cockroaches do when faced with the Zombie? Fine Jewelry Wasp. Do the experiment. Well, he took some Joulwan lost, and some cockroaches, and he put them together in this fancy clear scientific shoebox basically. And, then he took a bunch of high speed video when he captured all the video you watched. It played back in slow Mo. and what did he discover? He discovered that. Kicking karate cockroaches end. Mendis something tells me he's not a real cockroach just because he can talk and we're gym socks and has a price tag stuck to his head a costume. Among, other things, yes, in this class, we are going to learn the fine art of karate kicking. Our Way to freedom can I get yeah. No. Step one still standing as the wasp approaches. As the WAAS approaches. Sharing mean come on the wasp approaches. I'm a wasp and I want to sting your brains off Sharon Amazing Wasp. That wash at the same person who's. Just go with it as the wasp approaches. Rise up. Turn your body away from the wasp. Towards the WAAS. Lift up on a few hind legs. And let the WASP know. That you mean business, Mindy. There are no wasps in this class. There are no other students. How much did you pay for this lesson? The best part step to with your body position away from the wasp. Wait for the wasp to approach. Approach. In just as it gets ready to attack. US Your spiky far wire like back to deliver a hardy kick to the walk. In three minutes. Please don't kick that wash. That wasp is a person. They Wa- sued I can tell by her shoes. Of course I'M NOT GONNA. Kick this wasp, we here at kicking cockroach karate practice peaceful alternatives to working on our differences, Nama stay okay, okay, so why are we here again? I got Skyros. It excuse me, excuse me sense say so. Why would the wasp just hang around while you kicked it in the head for three minutes I mean I would just get up and fly away, but you know that's just me. Oh my young protecion. After this class. You're cockroach kicks. We'll be so fast so ferocious so fast that a wasp wouldn't be able to escape it if it tried. I mean at least sixty three percent of the time according to this new scientific research, okay, well, then step three step three. At this point. Of course you're going to have wasp guts all to the spines of your roach little legs. Now what you're going. GonNa do is you're gonNA. Use the spines of your other legs. The ones that don't have guts on them to break them free of WAAS degree. Do you get it? I'm making it rhyme, so it helps your brain i. Loss got aw five. Mindy step for once. You've finished raking that wasp off your legs. You're going to hold the wasp away from hip arms stance in take a big bite. Out of its abdomen, what? Do. This class as we are uninsured and peace, loving citizens of the insect community seriously wouldn't hurt. A fly can ask Sharon. She will attest Sharon. Right, but never bite. What step five the fifth and final step step five. Step Five. You make it out. Alive class dismissed. That'll be seventy five bucks per cockroach plus tax seventy five Skyros. 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Diwali w/ Mindy Kaling
"I've read has been carrying for families for over one hundred and forty years, using pure and purposeful ingredients to make products you will love and trust their new moisturizing body, washes and gently-used are free of aluminum baking, Soda Parabens and phthalates they're effective, affordable and gentle enough for anyone you can find both the ivory, moisturizing body, wash and gentle yoder in in stores or online from your favorite retailers. I'm Jennifer Fisher Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together, and we're best friend, and now we're doing the ultimate rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories that only two people who were there can tell you where the office ladies. Hello everyone hi guys. Welcome to Dewa Lee. I'm so excited for this episode Jonah me, too. It's a great episode and we have a great special guest. I just want to get to it aright. This is season three episode six. It was directed by Miguel Arteta and written by our special guest Mindy Kaeling. Very very exciting. Well, let's get to it. We are going to waste no time I'm starting with a summary. Do It in this episode. Everyone from under. Mifflin attends a traditional Indian celebration of wally in honor of Kelly. Now Ryan is going to meet Kelly's parents who are really less than impressed with his commitment to their daughter. Well to be fair, he says with extra money wants to travel and get like an xbox or something. So you know yes, I think I would also be less than impressed. Meanwhile Michael proposes to his girlfriend Carol. Oh my God. Oh, Michael Michael takes a big step in front of a lot of strangers. Yeah, so bit of a crash and burn so awkward Pam enjoys herself for the first time as a single person, and Angela guards the shoes while eating some dry non. Very dry non. And over at the Stanford Office Jim and Karen Work. The night and booze it up. Yeah, Yegor by stirring. What so growing. Andy is a maniac I'm going to give you fastback number one. This is a really special episode. Because the office was the first American television comedy series to depict the Hindu Festival of wally I love that way to go the office. It aired November, second two thousand six, and it was seen by eight point eight million people on the night that first aired and now it's been seen by how many people. Did, you know what Diwali was Jonah? When we got the script, shelby asked the same question and I did not know about wally. Did you know about Diwali? I did but I grew up overseas. You know I grew up in Indonesia. Bali has a very big him. So I had heard of de Wally and I thought it was awesome that we're going to do episode about it. Had you ever celebrated Diwali? I had never celebrated it, but myself I went to an international school. They did recognize you know many holidays in. There was like Diwali Day yeah well. They do that at my kids school now. They have a day where they celebrate, Diwali. which I think is really cool. Especially since I grew up not knowing about it, it is so beautiful, and it was so fun I. Remember we were all really giddy. Of course this meant. We got to leave the office that brings me to fast fact number. Two Angela van questioned from Juliet G. and phoebe Tomac. Where did you shoot the scenes when you were celebrating? Diwali? Well guess who I went to for the answer. Does it rhyme with Schmidt dish media? It does and we have a sting for it you do. Yes Angela that was sent in by Tyler Beckwith and we love it, tyler, thank you for our CANTU. pedia status really great. It sounds like something out of like one thousand nine hundred eighty s action kind of movie and. Well can't do. Pedia told us that Diwali. Was Shot at grant high school. We shot most of the scenes in their gym. Which is called grant, Hall and we shot there at the end of August and school was in session. They adjust started up the school year. He said that we shot there for three full days. and. We had to work around the school schedule. 'cause like school was happening in the hallways. I have such fond memory of our time shooting there because they they parked our trailers, facing sort of like a a little field, some trees, and normally they were just in a asphalt parking lot, and so I would open my door in. There'd be trees and grass and Brian, brought a football, and we like tossed the football out in the grass and I I have such memories of this whole week I. Remember it to for those exact same reasons well, this school is host to a lot of filmmaking including freaks and Geeks blackish Malcolm in the middle and true blood and I've got a little bit tribute for Ya. Malara Hardin went to high school out of town. Yeah, we shot at her Alma Mater O. I love that she was like a true sorta like. Kid You know like there's she in from her life. Like right here to me. It's still all sort of like. I still feel like a transplant in some ways in Los. Angeles still to this day. If I'm ever out about and I, see the Hollywood sign, I'm like through the holy with hood. OMEGAS only with us, but if I drive by and I see like a film. Film crew, filming something on the street I get as excited as if they pulled up in my neighborhood and Saint Louis as a kid I'm like ooh. What are they filming? Oh Look I. Wonder what it is I wonder if we can find out who's The star. I. Look like I get that same reaction to drive by and I. Try to see if someone famous odier. Exactly. So true well I'm going to move US along Angela because I. Know We WanNa get to our interview with Mindy fastback number three I, said earlier, this was directed by Miguel Arteta. Angela I was such a huge fan of Miguel. When I found out, he was gonNA direct this episode. This is the only episode he directed. I completely geeked out. Okay directed this little. Go Up to him where you dorky which you do. Oh Angela followed him around the entire week. We bonded at the end of this week. I thought we were best. Friends would work together forever on every future project, and I'M NOT GONNA lie every time. There was like a script that I was sent or when I was trying to produce a movie myself. He was the first person I would go to because I was like. I am literally like this guy is ingenious. I love him. I love that I didn't know you were like following him around everywhere. Oh Yeah I wanted everything about him to rub off on me, so he had directed this little indie movie called Chuck and Buck Written by and starring Mike White. Who by the way your eyes have stocked? I know Nola I. Know that you saw Tim I got to work with him, and then that made me feel one step closer to Mike White. Who I eventually managed to stock. And become I became friends with Mike. White, and then eventually got to be in a Mike White movie starring Ben Stiller. And then after that happened, I was like well. I can I can now retire. Because I have worked with my my idol I wrote in my journal about this week. Do you WanNa hear what I wrote ladder. Of course I always want to hear about your journal. Your Journal Delights me. That's ties. That's going to be your autobiography. A Journal delights me Jonah. Fisher I wrote that. And I wrote this me and the adorable Mindy Kaeling are going to be doing really early morning interviews together on all the local NBC. Stations we're GONNA talk to sixteen cities, and we have to get up at five am Oh my gosh. You guys did a press junket. I think this is my very first one well. What's crazy about that Angeles you probably then after you're done had to. To come to work. Yeah, because they we had to. I remember we had to be on stage. We actually did them on the set with the set as the background, and we got there and William that this satellite media tour is what they called it, and we met their crew, and we had to be there at four am to go through Harran makeup. And then we started doing interviews at five am, and we talked to a new city every fifteen minutes for three hours. Wow! And that you did it with Mindy Mindy was my first press junket will. This is a wonderful segue into our upcoming segment. We'll take a break, but when we come back, we're going to play our interview with Mindy Kaeling. She came and talked to us. It was amazing. It was such a joy to have her here and I'm so excited for you guys to listen to this, and then afterwards we're gonNA fully, breakdown the episode. We'll get to that right after the break. We'll see you with mindy. Mindy. Guys. I feel happy to be here. Welcome to office. Lady I'm giving you a hug through the surveys inc you. Guys on the massive success of this, this is like this is awesome. This is everyone in my life. is obviously such a fan, and I'm like I'm so proud is this is so great. Thank you. Thanks Mindy Yeah, of course love it. We're having a good time. It's fun to hear way that the show was through. Your guys is is because it's so loving and fun and super accurate and I like I'm really enjoying it so. This is great. Thanks for having me. Thank you so I feel like this is all just pure joy. I'm just so delighted to see you and talk to you in the. Episode so we just get to reminisce a little bit Levitt before we get into wally. We always like to ask all of our guests. Their office origin story. So how did you come to be on the show? Well it was two thousand and four, and I had I was off doing a play off off Broadway in Newark Combat Madden Ben which was a play that I wrote with my writing partner in front of the time. Brenda withers where it's like an hour long. Short play the where I play Ben Affleck and she plays Matt Damon. It's so hard to tell this story without being like just like Oh. These are just ignore that kind of interesting fact salon, but so we did that, it won the fringe festival got some attention and sort of was our on trade to. And when we were in La, I have been arrested. Development SPEC, and that play and I had very few meetings the climate for a hiring writers if you were like an untested Indian American woman who was very different sixteen years ago, that it is now, and the only place that I got an interview at I got two interviews, one was at nevermind Nirvana, which was a pilot about an Indian family and I was like yes I can. Yes, I could read a bad show and the other one was the office and I remember. Joey was like. Huge Joey was when we started shooting. Yeah, yeah, the friends spin off! It was like the NBC they put all their money that in the father of the pride. You guys remember that one. No father had was a cartoon. Jeffrey Katzenberg produced cartoon about from the point of view of two tigers that worked with siegfried and Roy Oh. Yes, what? Yes, it's coming back to manuals of animated shows sounds like a bit on Saturday night. Live the sound like a DVD show not. Not only. Was it a real show? It was the hottest show like you could not get an interview. So I didn't get an injury on will and grace. I didn't get an interview at Joey and I didn't get an interview at father cried, and you can imagine like just to show how things have become so different from them like. Can you imagine like now like a minority woman who won the fringe festival coming out to L. A. Not Getting a meeting unlike? Shows so these are changed a lot. So that's great, but the the people who drew with reminder vodka, and I went into their offices in Burbank at this has never happened to me before, but I sat in the office, and as I was there waiting to meet the show runner. They got the call. The pilot hadn't been picked up to series, so I sat there, and then the came out as you. You should go home like there's no jobs so I just got up and left. And then the second one was at the office with Greg Daniels, and so I met with him in. Just you know my agent at the time. Who I won't mention was really like. Yeah, this show doesn't have a lot of heat like I don't think it's really GonNa do anything. Everyone likes to burnish one better so. You know it's good to meet Greg Daniels. He's done a lot of good stuff, but like just interest good to have a general so I went in there, and there was not a lot of steaks and I had A. A very a really fun interview with Greg that lasted two hours, but you guys Greg, so it was actually probably only fifteen minutes of talking in two hours. and. He hired me and he didn't. He didn't hire me in the meeting. They still had to do up and everything, but we had a great meeting and I heard it went well, and then like a month and a half later I was told I was coming back for six episodes such as small first season but I was so new and I think you guys you know knew enough to that. It was just like. Oh, my gosh, any episodes. That's fantastic. Not knowing that that was kind of an unusually small number of episodes that was that was how I got on the US, and how did you end up than playing a role on the show? You know he had put gray. Put into the contract. These acting these writing contract these clauses for I think a number of the writers. At least it was in Mayan, and I think polydor stands so I guess in the back of his mind he was thinking in those terms, but the first season Classic Episode Diversity Day written by the Great Bijan Novak I remember the rim. He loved this idea Greg Love. This idea of Michael Scott offending all these people, but it's like it's. It's kind of the funniest version of it when there's some minority people there to who can get extra offended so at that time I think it just made sense to have another minority person and I was like. I'll do it I actually. I did volunteer. He's like he's I had two lines in that episode and he's A. Do you WanNa be of course in so Diversity Day Yeah Thank Heavens. That was the second episode because then that guest starred then. I think maybe once or twice that first season I wasn't very much, and then second season was like I sort of saw more lines, and yes, that's how it happened. What blew me away? Mindy is when I think back on that and I was I was sort of reading back on wikipedia about all of us, and where we're at in our lives at that time, and you were twenty four. And that blows my mind your. You had your act together to me for someone at twenty four. You! You're amazing. 'cause at twenty four. I was I. Think I was doing takeout at Shenzhen's. I wasn't a waiter was just doing a hostess job. Do you know? If. They'll thank you for saying that. I mean I. Love to feel like I was a wonder can, but you know what it is is that it's just the life of a writer comedy writer in the life of an actor, or they're just so they're so different. Right like it's so I. It's very hard to break into comedy writing, but I do think that is easier than breaking into acting. Because if you can write, you can write your opportunities and write a Spec script that you know then you can use in. Send out whereas like when you're young actor. You're like I just hope someone calls me in to see something, so thank you for saying that. But you know it also. It felt less special because BJ's there. He was the same age he'd already written on a show at twenty four. So it's just what I was like. Oh, I guess I'm young in cool? He was like Oh. Yeah, already worked on, he was on a Bob, Saggy Sitcom, and make sure was like twenty eight in already had like an emmy and bidded SNL for nine years or something crazy so. There was no sense of Lake. You could ever think you were special or like ahead of the curve or anything like that with aggravated people will I always thought you were special. Thank you, thanks Angela. Are should. We get into this episode? John Yes! Did you get a chance to rewatch it? Yes, dead! What was it like for you to? I I have to say I feel really lucky that Greg wanted to do this episode. Because it feels like now. We Angelo was on my most recent show. We didn't episode about Ganesh Pooja and there's show much more you know. There's somebody mark shows on the air with like diverse cast everything, but the fact that on Primetime Television and I don't know what year due to come out two thousand seven. Maybe it aired November second two thousand six. By eight point, eight million people, and it was the first American television comedy series to depict the Hindu festival of wally. It was the very first one. That's cool that yeah, mazing, go us for doing that and the show Mendis referring to never have I ever mindy I. Do want to give it a low plug here because it's so great, and in the cast is great in your with them from the beginning that the young actors you got I felt one hundred years old on that site suited i. Student everyone who wasn't seventeen? They were so cute and I love the office so much on my Gosh, they were so star struck by you Angela. It was so special that you got to be there. Oh My, what is the name of the lead? Actress on that show may tree e Ramakrishnan. I adore her. Oh I, because, when you watch the show, you are so immediately in with her journey immediately she is so like effervescent and open, and just while what a find what aim you? She's going to flip out sheet Jena's. She's an office. Is Her number one favourite show view? Go on her social media for more than two days. There's like an office manager. Or there's like yeah, I! Bet You've been on her instagram like with the. Like, please don't trash it. She's. Sound like famous Pam. Okay so so here we go so now we have to wally the festival of lights on Network TV Mindy. You have been so amazing at just really. I feel like representing all different sides of culture and on television. It's just you should know what it's meant to people. We had a lot of people right in about having their community seen in in in this mainstream way what it meant to them. It's it's really mil well. That's so Nice I. Mean you know the one of the harder things about when you write the Diwali episodes? We couldn't believe that Greg said yes. Because normally we would you like Halloween episode of that year because Band of October. October, but then I when he said yes I had to kind of confront the fact that I'm Indian American I don't know very much about the holiday and the experience of being Indian American and talking about how you don't know very much about the holiday kind of became a big part of the episode, which I loved, I didn't I. I liked that Greg thought that was just as interesting, if not more interesting than me, going in like pretending like my family and I or these experts at Hindu holidays and everything, so I really liked that Kelly is is has defiant attitude about it that it's really important while also not knowing anything about it at all. Except that, she gets to wear a lake an outfit. That has some sparkles on it. Yes, yes. And the music part. She's really excited about that. and Michael in the cold open, I mean mindy. I love whenever Steve would do an impression of us as our characters, and so Michael's like well. If you ask Kelly it's like. Fun. Yes that that. That that. Much like met like that, he didn't do impressions of of of us to too much I when he did I just, it just got me so tickled. I have a gazillion things I wanNA. Say Jennifer go no go. One of my favorite lines in this whole episode is this. How long have you been married to the cheerleader? That was your dad my gosh to this day. My Dad gets checks from. He gets residual checks. It's his thing. He's the most proud of. Oh from the office. Yeah the office right yeah. And one time he was with my step mom at. And they got stopped and someone who's like you are in the office burns you and that was the early when they were dating before they got married, and my dad was like felt so cool about it. So, yeah, I was like some good like street cred right. There is yeah recognized. Yeah, completely. I just remember that that was like those episodes at the beginning of the season in felt like one thing we did a lot was somehow we pulled out someone from the main cast. There was somebody somewhere else. That was Stanford for that season Yes. It is what is where I really liked the. The Stanford episodes I think sometimes would do that. It works really well sometimes. Pull them out. We were like just come back. We just like what you back in the main gas, but that was a time where I felt like it. It worked pretty well and I remember thinking because I was like at the beginning wars like what was like Ed and John Doing if they weren't there. So it was It was fun. Just I forgot about the whole thing and I remember what I really liked about Stanford was. That was a really funny group of people there, even the people that didn't have big parts like in the Stanford Branch. Yes, those the I just thought we nailed those prototypes, or whatever like I was never bored when I had to. To go over there. No, it was so well done. We talked a little bit about having over on the Scranton set like Angela and I, having a little bit of like Thommo and Jealousy of how much fun they were having over on Stanford, because everybody was so funny, and also they would only have to work like one and a half days a week. For relaxed and just like having the best time, and then they got four days off and we were. We are just Lake Hey. I've forgotten how that your we'll do. We'll Jenner, the best example of that was the Michael Scott Paper Company which was? which was like to me? The one of my favorite Arc's we've ever done, and I don't think I wrote any of the episodes for you guys there, but like it has I think that pairing of people that group of people on their mission was like one of the Times where I was like. Wow, this is just like equally, if not more funny than like anything, we announce when issues elbow was. was that Y'all got I? If you cut back to yourself, you're doing fine. Yeah, I loved being in Michael Scott Paper Company. I kind of didn't want that arc to end in Vikram the four of you together Oh my gosh. Amazing it was so it was like it could've been its own movie like we're not. The Michael Scott Paper Company right. We're talking about the wally, but it felt like it was his own bad news. Bears type movie. But you're, you're right, Mindy. There were these pairings that would happen. That were just as pure and beautiful as what was happening in Scranton and you know I got the DVD box set and I watched the deleted scenes and there so many scenes at Stanford that never made it in like. There's the really hector that's like always like was always breastfeeding. Make. Had, it would make Jim really uncomfortable and then as far as this episode I. Do have a question for you. Because I was texting with Rashida and she was like this is the episode I was so worried everyone was going to hate me because Jim and Karen have the sloppy. Make out out in the parking lot. Yeah, tipsy, make out! It's not in the deleted scenes. It didn't even make that cut and the shooting draft Oh yeah, did receipt at? The end up shooting that because I was GONNA ask about that, too. When I was going I have the shooting draft from this episode I went back and I read it and I was like wait. What? Jim and Karen Kiss Yeah there. Why are they making? Oh, but then it's nowhere in the episode and it's not in the deleted scenes while I have A. Memory even though I was writer obviously for the episode, I have zero memory of that. But I will say that one thing that we used to do I felt a lot was to write scripts that advance story, and then what we noticed when we only had twenty one and a half minutes to air an episode that such a little went such a long way like if there's an attractive woman who is working in the new environment, and she seems to have some kind of rapport, which or together. They're making fun of Andy. You're like Oh. That's interesting. That might be something and so it felt like we were always like pulling back that stuff like Jenner. Don't you feel like you shot a lot of stuff with? With John, that was like. Not like because you guys weren't like super flirty in those early seasons like overtly flirty, but like that you watch it and you're like Oh. This was like they. They used like less than I thought they would. In terms of like showing your guys is like Budding Romance. Yes, and I would also add that. There were some scenes where we would get in I. Don't know if I would call it fights, but there were some disagreements in certain episodes, and they would pull back on those two and they they would make them smaller. I wonder if it's interesting, is just like for so much of the show in terms of romance, it was always like less as more awareness for comedy. It was like let's hoist up Tony Gardner onto the table. Like Like, but for all that stuff it was. Yeah, just a little goes a long way, but the the relationships were so finessed. I thought they were so smartly done one of the things I remember really well about this episode was again like it's such a time capsule of like two thousand six, or whatever, because the love interest, he wasn't really love interest, but there is an Indian character who my parents preferred to Ryan that. That was like a mirror, small part of it, and was played by this writer Volley Gender Shaker on who was kind of a friend of the writers on the show, but not an actor, just a guy like a guy we do. There was a real sort of casualness tour. Show like we're just kind of putting it together. Yeah, we probably shot this. This is season three. The virtually it was. We knew that Susan to had done well I. Don't We'd been nominated? Probably at this point we had we been nominated, but we didn't know so I, felt like now I felt like at the beginning of season three. We started shooting. We started feeling a little bit more like okay. We're not gonNA. Get canceled or something because yeah, I remember. Remember so much stress earlier on thinking like e. it's hard to enjoy show as much when you're like. Is this GONNA last? And I do remember being able to enjoy things a little bit more starting like at the beginning of a season three. Sorry I. Just keep going off of 'cause I. Don't get to the office. That much I am talking really like. Like holistically about the show, just about this episode, but don't worry. We're going to break down this whole episode and like get into the nitty gritty of so this can be your office memories. There's no prescription for what we talk about yeah. Okay Cool Greg was on to talk about Booze cruise in we just we went everywhere. You know it's it's such a special chapter in all of our lives. I think it's hard to compartmentalize it to one episode. It's such a big part of us. You know one of the things. I remember a lot about doing the office was. We didn't realize as writers however. However. It was for Greg to just say okay. Well I'm just GONNA give one person from the writers world onset, which is GonNa be the writer of the episode. Simple do that now, but it's usually like an upper level writer, so it's your job to make sure that the intention of alliance is being collected. Give Alz answered questions when the actors and I was a story editor. What I did this and I remember like that was pretty stressful. I think like I. I remember being on the set Miguel. Arteta was not one of our directors. We had all the time and so I remember feeling like. Is this like am I being too like onset, because are in location a lot for this episode like if I too much in his hair is GonNa yell at me, 'cause I think season one. I was never alone for hot girl like I think Howard and Greg were there for almost all the shooting I think one of the lessons we shot, but for this one it was just like go managed set, answer all Indian questions and make sure it's hilarious and do all ALZ. It's so funny. You say that many because my impression of you as the writer onset was just. That you were one of my favorites. Really that's US mostly because you were so up to laugh like you found. I always felt like you found everyone hilarious. Not seem to like everything. You had the best Alz, so you would sort of throw out. Maybe based on something you watched us. Do you be like? Oh, my Gosh, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. You have to do that again, do that again. And then. What do you think about saying this and it was like? Oh, my Gosh! It was just like this uplifting exciting donets. Oh, I loved it. I loved it. We've talked a lot about that and gents. Latta was very similar as well. Well Jen you couldn't get cheap. Just would laugh the whole time like we'd actually have to throw her off because she was laughing, too, would ruin takes, but yeah. Yeah! I, I thought we. You know there's this thing that we would do on the show where a cut would come out the director's cut, and I've never seen it on any other show. We would all gather and watch it together in the writer's room and director's cuts famously and other shows like make you WANNA kill yourself. They're usually so bad, but the quality was so good because the cast was. was so good and so I remember it was like my favorite time. We can interrupt all of our work. Just go into the living room area of already. German watch I mean was such a fan of the show I watched almost every kind of every episode, and then I would watch. It lies to like I i. didn't realize how unusual that is for somebody who works on a show. Most people do it, and then they a lot of actors don't even watch it when it airs but I. I really was such a huge fan of the show and. Those conference from scenes like I'd have like lines or one line or something in these four-page scenes and to me it was like going to second city, just watching everyone just be so funny, and it just be for free, and you'd be in this like freezing cold room and there'd be snacks. Every two hours was like. How could this be better? It felt like such an abundance of riches I just loved sitting and watching everyone in character just reacting. Yeah, Mindy, I remember one time you're on stage, and Bj and you guys were at reception by Jenna and you guys were talking and I walked up and you're having a conversation. About some type of like economics, it was like some kind of like you'd you'd expanded economics and I walked up and I was like. I'm going to go over here. To the smartest people I ever met, and I'm GonNa hard pivot. and. We beat in. We're talking about economics. We weren't fighting I'm so she's prized. Oh. No, you were. It was a heated discussion. I. I, remember you and Paul and Bj as a little trio, probably because you were the writers who were with the actor, so between takes you guys would always kind of huddle up and talk like story ideas, and like what's happening in the writer's room, and so you were having to kind of manage to jobs at once and I used to like hover around you guys and eavesdrop, and just like hope you would invite me into your Hilali. Yes, some of my favorite memories are listening to you. Guys Discuss Story and character and pitch jokes to each other inbetween seen well. That's so funny because I felt like. In the annex. We'd and we were. The writers were antics. I'm sure you guys have talked about this many times. We're in the annex. Obviously, because then we could go be the writer's room and we wouldn't have to be in some of the big group scenes, but I remember also thinking like I want to be in the big group scenes like I like. Those were the funnest scenes to watch when like. Dwight would run in and be like everyone through the roof like we were left out of those scenes like. About, dwelling so here's a couple of things that I felt were may be interesting. To say, which was that we only cast my parents in it, which seems just like a complete act of nepotism and favoritism. Because we had auditioned the parts and Greg had felt that the actors we'd found that age group like the late fifties early sixties were like a little bit to either theatrical for style of acting on our show or chew stilted, because they had no acting experience. Now I'm the first to say that my parents acting was also very stilted, but he was at least they bear some familial resemble. It's A. Bill jets. Will just like. Put them in there and I. Don't know if you remember this, but I remember going into. My mom was like had this energy of like. Hey, I'm just going to be so much better than than your father like I just know like neither of them ended any acting. She was shoes Dr in Arctic, but she had this sense like coming over that. I just hope that you give me the most just naturally better on camera like it's going to be, but then Miguel like fell in love with my dad like he was like. We have to give him more lines like he's killing it. and You river life. This is show where if anyone ever fell for anyone? Troy L. Under Bridge. Who is like just kind of like a if anyone was interesting to? In the wrong reasons like just because like Oh, my God, like I just love guys look. They could recur the show for a lot of time. Ever being like I cannot have my dad and my mom come back here. Ever again to do this kind of thing so ever Miguel Arteta was like. Hey, do you think we add your dad to the background of like another scene and I was like no, we can't. I GonNa ask you what it was like for you to have them on sat. I was I. don't know if you guys villa's able. You don't really Ange because like your family. You guys are so tight so I don't think you have this, but I did not feel so established on the show as a writer or actor that I felt so comfortable having them. They're like I was really worried about. seeming unprofessional or just like that they would tell boring stories to people in general would be like Hey, can you get this guy away for me? Until can ad like? I can't hear I can't hear the story anymore. Like can you please so I think I was worried at I. Think I told them I don't like talk to people across services for too long like just say hi, answered questions, but don't launch into a you other stuff, but that was one thing I thought they were delightful. We were so excited to have them, and they were so cute, mindy they were so both like five foot four. They're just like like little. They're both. There might people I I remember? Your mom complimented my blouse and I remember it. That's nice. She liked the color on me and I was like. Oh, thanks, much I don't know I. Thought they were delightful, and by the way I thought were acting was amazing. Watching them in that scene was steve and I was like they are killing it. Your mom eight him up. Like pop was amazing they were I cannot believe because I was at the time where I was like I'd like to have seen with Steve like special and here they are. They're like he's at a crossroads with Carol and my dad is like you should be with our. Forget exactly what he said, but I remember being this kind of a doozy. Seen what you know. There's a nice little story like I feel like Pam stories had such an emotional impact, but they often didn't have like lots and lots of like. To them, but they always were so impactful as like. I signed your little story in this one was pretty sweet Jonah like it was like you know you didn't really want to go, and then you end up having like I. Don't know I thought it was like a nice I like those kinds of Pam stories. I liked it, too, I also. I was really struck by. How incredibly good looking David Denman was in this episode. I was laughing. Pam. Stop for a second, open your eyes. See, what's in front of you and just? Maybe I mean maybe just revisit that for one night PAM and. That's what that's what I was thinking. The whole time yet David Denman also really Tan. He was really like I. Don't know what David was doing in Israel life, but he's Super Tan Yeah. It was good to show that Roy had good qualities was good looking to so that you were just like what the hell like why? Why is it not it's good that he was yet. Dina demine is a legitimate smoke show. He doesn't get enough credit. Because this was so much fun now that I've done it and you guys made me feel so welcome. I would love to come back and do another one sometime. We will have you back anytime. Mindy I really. I'm sure you already did this in talked about it with somebody else on the show, but if we ever do branch wars genetic, I have so many funny memories of one thing. I remember really well was normally. You'd sit in a conference room type scene and Michael will be the person that would just be so. So funny that you felt like I'm going to break. Die And I remember I was not. I was on set with you because I read an episode, but I was not obviously at the branch on like as an as a character I wasn't there and I remember when you had to take over for Michael because she was just like a breakdown that was like some of the funniest moments of any episode, ever seen like you in front, just eating it and having to be like this valiant assistant and friend to Michael. I remember that and also remember Michael cutting a piece of her sweater off. Those revived to favorite moments that episode Thank you Mindy I had a great time mindy thank you so much. It was such a joy to see you. Thank you so much. Ms Really Fun great to see you and Yeah, guys good. I, was gonNA. Say Good Luck, but you don't need good luck. You're already. This is the number one podcast ever but. By the speaking of I can't believe legally. Thank you? We love you so much mindy. Okay Bye Bye Mindy. And we are back. Mindy Kaeling so fun! Please come back. That was so great. We have to have her back I know all right ladies. Should we break down this episode? We talked a little bit about this cold open with Mindy. We opened in office. Kelly is helping Ryan with his Kerteh and Michael Enters and he starts laughing at it. He calls it address right, but then Pam and Kelly Gush about how handsome! Handsome? Ryan looks and Michael suddenly that he had one two he such a child. How come you didn't get me one I? Think you can see mindy starting to break when he says that and I wondered if that was an improvised line, Jenna, no, it's in the script 'cause. I feel like you can see many starting to do that. That break that she does like she was taken by surprise. You know that's just mindy breaking because you said words, which is what Mindy selected do we'll now we have a party planning committee seen you guys. We lived for these. We got so tickled whenever there was one in a script I find it fascinating that in this party planning committee seen it is Ryan, Meredith, Pam Angela, and Phyllis, and they are discussing who's going to Carpool with who there's a chart. Clearly, they couldn't plan this party. They were invited guests, so they had to have something to plan, so they're planning carpools. This is what Phillips wrote on. The Dry Erase Board and Bob's Yukon and she was very proud to say that he had a yukon. In Bob's you gone. would be Phyllis Stanley. Angela Kevin and Pam and Merida's minivan would be married at Darul Lonnie Creed Ryan and Kelly now. Who is missing from the Carpool Oskar? He's on leave Michael and wait. Who's writing with Michael and Dwight? They're on their own I. Guess Yeah, Good Question. Why Guess. Michael and Carol are to go together, but how Dwight get there. He's solo his solo, but I want you guys to know. There is a fantastic deleted scene. There's an extension of this party planning committee scene, and the. It's so funny, because Angela doesn't want anyone to go, and I actually have a talking. Talking head where it SORTA sets up, I'm so against wally in. It's not really about wally. It's because I think twice might still have a thing for Kelly or maybe they'll be someone else there. He might be interested in so I really have this attitude that listen I. Actually have this line where I say certain people in this office are a little too obsessed with things from India. Yes, so she's jealous and that's really her filter through all of this. That's why she's so salty all the way through and then Jenna. What I love is. She's trying to talk people out going. And Ryan was like well Kelly's kind of into. It I thought we could go, and then he's like I. don't care actually can bail I. don't care. Bush Ryan was like the guys want me to bail fine. We actually got a lot of male wondering why Angela was so salty about the festival, and so I'm really glad you shared that deleted scene because there was this whole extra storyline element that it's you and I think you kind of see it a little bit in the scene. Where Pam is telling Kelly, she might not go in this and that and your head has popped up. Oh, yeah, behind that partition, and you are a little jealous. When Dwight with such authorities says he's single, he's not seeing anyone. Yes, because Kelly suggests maybe. Pam Go with Dwight if she doesn't want to go alone and she's like you're single, right? Dwight and whites like Oh yeah I'm totally single and I. think that's us. See that little jealousy right there from Angela like. Don't like it. There's deleted scenes that really sort of play out this Dwight Angeles storyline and her jealousy, and how it resolves itself, but that that's what was going on for Angela Martin so Michael Gets. Aware of the fact that people might not be as enthusiastic about this to wally festival is he would like? He says he thinks it's because you know. People are just ignorant about other cultures, and he really does not want to be embarrassed by everyone's ignorance in front of his girlfriend. Girlfriend Carol. Yeah so he's got. Educate everyone, so this means we're all going in the conference room. Yes, once again. Where does Michael Get these posters? It fills last minute, but yet he has all these posters. Does he send white on like a Mad Dash? There's all kinds of posters once we get in the conference room. It's so true and when he starts showing us the slide show you notice how there's a photo of Michael and Carole. Kissing awkward accidentally makes its way into this presentation. Will then he passes out the Kama Sutra. To the employees and remember Angela. Those were like little booklets that Phil Shea had to put together imprint of all these comments Sutra positions, and they were blurred out for television, but they were not blurred out in real life. We're all like we're all seeing in the room as actors and we get these little booklets and I remember being totally like. Oh. Okay, of course Kevin says this is the best meeting. Dave ever had the best one. If you guys get a chance and rewatch the scene at the end, toby takes away the Kama Sutra and I want you to look at Villa's face 'cause. She makes it an expression like she's really bummed out to lose the book. All my Gosh I missed that. I can't wait to go back and see that. Yeah, well Angeles. Should we talk a little bit about what's going on in Stamford? You mean with Josh. Porter's like biker shorts and his fancy bike, and Jim and his clunky bike with a big basket. What's happening jam? What's going on well? Jim has started biking to work just like Josh. He says I'M GONNA save gas money keeps me in shape. He did not anticipate how. How sweaty he would be that talking had is so funny. How much sweat they put on him Angela. Do you remember how they used to make us sweaty? When you have to be sweaty, they spray you. Yeah, they would either spray you with like a bottle that you would miss your plants with, or they would spray you with like those viane mist sprays, and they have to like Spritz you under the arms, but then. They'd have to come and do it like between every take because it would dry, but then sometimes they would put like baby oil around lake. Your hairline and then spray you, so it would look especially sweaty. Yeah, just given everybody a little inside Info on how you make an actor sweaty. You can try it at home. I'm just laughing. At how many times you just said so Eddie sweaty. Aright. Now at four minutes twenty three seconds Sam. Will you play Mustang? Already CAROM flirty Karen. That's my mom, Birdie, Kenzi, Florida, Karen Karen, says hey, nice basket ever since the whole chips incident, she's Smitten Yup so then Josh comes over, and gives Karen the company credit card because they have to work late and they're allowed to buy dinner, but he says. No more than twenty dollars a person this time this time twenty dollars a person. We shot this in two thousand six. Is there a meal out there that you order? That's more than twenty dollars per se. Maybe there's a reason, Stanford doesn't make it. I mean my gosh. I don't know. Maybe I just don't eat it very fancy places for my take out, but I feel like I would be it would. I would be challenged to order a meal for more than twenty dollars, a person in two thousand and six. Yeah, especially like late at night and Scranton. What are they getting? You know like Thai food. Exactly. This is not difficult Andy though bus out some yeager meister. He's got other plans. He's ready to party Ed. Helms's face when he holds up that yeager meister bottle and shot glasses is hull area. You, you get a window into. Andy was in college, and you're like Oh buddy well back in scranton. Things are getting exciting. 'cause everyone is showing up to dwell wally there arriving there. It's really really like bright and colorful, and there's music playing and Phyllis is like. Isn't it fun to take our shoes off and Angeles like? I wish not everyone took. They're shoes off, and Kevin's like stop it. I told you it was a condition. So you guys remember in grief counseling? We talked about a deleted scene that would have been in the episode where Angela and Kevin go off again about his sweaty feet. Yes, this is a callback to a deleted scene so if it's going to go unappreciated. UNAPPRECIATED by most viewers, but those hard viewers who watch those deleted scenes will know what this I feel like. Someone in the writer's room was really determined to make sure we had scenes about Kevin's feet I feel like it was a note card on the on the wall that said Kevin sweaty feet, and someone loved it and kept waiting to get in the episodes. Well this is Angeles worst nightmare. People taking off their shoes in Minas Kevin's sweaty fiend I. mean this is just not how she wants to be at a party. No, no, so now. The party is in full swing. Jenna, you know. What that sound means Angela do we get a lot of questions about different behind the scenes moments on the office and we always try our best to give you the real deal just like our friends at state farm. You want to know how much you can save on your auto insurance by bundling with your home policy. They'll always give you the answers you need when you need them, so we teamed up with State Farm to give you the real deal behind your favorite scenes on the office. This week's question comes from Sarabeth Miller Sarah. Let's play your question. Hygiene and Angela. was there really a Diwali celebration happening in the filming of? Of this episode, How did you get all those people in costume for this episode will? This is a great question. I mean there are so many people in this scene, so here's the thing. It was not a real Diwali festival that was all put together by our amazing crew. Just specifically for this episode Yes are set designer Michael Gallon Berg and his team. They decorated that whole Jim Michael had to do a lot of research in order to transform the gymnasium to feel like a real Diwali festival so I think he would be very proud to know that you wondered if this was real like. Maybe we just stepped into an existing festival. They made the whole thing. They did a fantastic job as far as costumes go. My character did not get to dress up. Jonah I was so bummed. Yeah, I mean she actually is just wearing what she wore to work. She didn't even change out of her work clothes I now, but some are the cast. Dig It to dress up bj rain. Mindy and I'm sure our were dropped. Silas was thrilled to do something other than just grab onto tire. They used to get so excited. Every time we got to wear anything other than our office attire and Panton really dress up, but she is not in her office attire, which was fun. I had a whole separate fitting for that. have to see casual Pam. And did you notice I got to wear my hair differently as well, but we did find out some interesting trivia about all the other background actors who were dressed up for the festival. Yes, we went to Kim to Pedia, and he said are casting office worked with central casting. Now central casting is a casting agency in Los Angeles, specialize in sort of the background actors and filling out the picture right? Yep, central casting reached out to a lot of the Indian community here in Los Angeles, to hire those background players all. All in all Kent said we had one hundred extras working this episode, and every single one of them brought their own very beautiful costuming for us to use and to kind of fill out. The world can't also hired a professional dance company to come and lead us in some of the dances he found a company called N D M dance productions, and he hired their director choreographer Dev Mahajan and Dev hired eight dancers. He choreographed, rehearsed their dance in the morning of that day. Four of shooting is when we shot. Shot all the dancing. And then we filmed later in the afternoon, and all the dancers where their own costumes as well I actually went to the website. Of course you did lady you went to the dancers website. Where'd you find out? They have appeared on tons of shows. So you think you can dance alive. Oscar Coverage Good Morning America superstars of dance and MTV's America's best dance crew. If you WANNA, look them up. You can find them at N D M DANCE DOT COM. It was super cool in it really did. Did end up feeling like a real party like a real celebration. It really did I wish my character wanted to participate more because me Angela. That is me would have been right out there like just having a great time, so it was always hard in these moments to not get to be in costume and not participate in. Be Kind of the GRUMP on the wall. You know I, do and we'll talk a little bit about my dancing later, but I did get to dance a little bit and I was thrilled. Done so there you have it guys when you want the real deal on the office. We're your ladies when you want the real deal on insurance like a good neighbor state farm as there. If you want to submit a question about a future episode, just head over to office. LADIES DOT com slash real deal, and if we pick your question to be real deal question on the show, we will send you a swag of fun. Fun. Stuff including and Office Ladies Hoodie and assigned office ladies Mug Right, so yeah, so there are people that got to dress up people that didn't Michael and Carol Walk in with a whole different idea what this party is Michael has clearly told Carol that this is a costume party, so she arrives dressed as a cheerleader with pom Poms with pompoms and Michael has his old Halloween costume on. He has his paper mcshea head. We had a fan question from Melinda. Was Michael's costume, the same one from the Halloween episode or did they have to make another one. Oh No, Melinda we save everything everything that anyone war, or held or used or interacted with on the office goes into a giant warehouse. It's tagged. It's almost like an evidence room. So when they wrote that into this episode they just went to that warehouse, and they picked up that paper machine head and put it right on his shoulder again. That's right. It's like the end of Raiders of the lost Ark. It's like rows and. and rows of boxes with dates tags episode names, so they went right to that box, and of course my goal, you know he can take the head off and then he just looks like he's in a suit, but Carol is stuck now. As a cheerleader 'cause Michael Thought. This was Indian Halloween. Yes, I know poor carol. She is such sport in this episode. She has to endorse so much and Nancy Krill. Just knocked it out of the park. She plays it so perfect of just sort of like quietly enduring this awkward evening. While, dressed like a cheerleader, yeah. Well let's move over to the buffet. A Angeles at the buffet. She asks if they have any vegetarian options. She doesn't even seem satisfied when she learns that everything is vegetarian. It's all vegetarian his just in full grump mode. She's like. Just give me some bread. And then the Guy Hanser, the bread with his hands and Angela. You have a line here that I am fairly certain improvised Oh. Yeah, I say you used your hands as I walk away and I did improvise that, 'cause the guy literally did hand it to me with his hands and I thought that's not good. You shouldn't use some Tong some tongs. He just to me with his hands, and so I improvised that line, and it stayed in, and it makes me laugh. Of course she goes ahead and eats it so I guess she's not to concern, but it's clearly she's just like not having a good time, and she's a little like grossed out because she's seeing a lot of feet, and now a guy just handed her bread with his hands a stranger while in the script. It says that you take a bite and say garlic. We had some fan questions about the foods Stacey and Rut v both wrote in to say. was any of that delicious looking Buffet Food Real? Did you get to sample some of the cuisine? Guys, it was all real food. It was all real. It was all delicious can't told me. We hired a specialty food stylist to create the food that was authentically prepared, and we had it all three days of filming, and we got to eat it and I. Remember that it was delicious. It was delicious I only got to eat the non, but it was very good non. Oh I eight between takes I just ate it I. You don't even see Pam eating it on screen I was like I will eat this well now we come to one of the moments in this episode. That is one of my favorites Angela. This is when Ryan meets Kelly's giggly sisters. Yeah, it's so so cute! We got some fan questions from Lindsey Bridget and Dan who all want to know. Do you know what Kelly sister is saying? When they're talking to Ryan, they're saying something about Zach braff okay. Here's what the three little girls say. They say Kelly like Zach Braff. That's what they're saying in Hindi and they're sort of like teasing him. They were so cute and they were played by Timbre Oswal a Nanya. Kepler and Jatia Patel well. The little girl who plays Kelly sister that says Zach. BRAFF line that's Jatia I founder on instagram and I reached out to her to ask her about what it was like to be on the show, and she wrote back. I can't wait to share. She must be like a grown lady now. She is a grown woman now. She told me she was thirteen years old when she shot this episode. She said she had not really heard about the show. She was still watching Disney channel's. She said but. She said her dad took her to the audition, and she remembers walking into the casting office, and just seeing tons of other kids who were all there for the same role, and she said the audition was just her, saying that one line in Hindi and she said she didn't speak any Hindi, so her dad told her how to say it about five seconds before she went into the audition room, and then she got the part, so she said she was so excited and I asked her what it was like to be on set if she had any memories, and she sent back the sweetest message, so we're GONNA. Play it for you now. I remember Rainn Wilson walking up to me and shoving a lightsaber in my hand and yelling late Saber, War I also remember getting to know Mindy Kaeling and B J Novak. who were so sweet to me meeting Mindy? Killing really meant a lot to meet growing up. Because I didn't really see many Indian actresses in the entertainment industry at that time, and I love what Mindy has done with her platform, and she is still a huge inspiration for me till this day. Day I also remember all of the delicious Indian food on and getting to dance all day, and I remember being so happy that I had the chance to wear my Indian clothes is about so sweet. That is wonderful that as I listened to it. I was just smiling so big because that is everything about that message is lovely. I love all of her memories. She's -solutely right about mindy and what Mindy has done, and she's such an inspiration to so many people. Yes yeah. She told me after the episode aired. She had classmates and family members reaching out that they had recorded and taking pictures of her name in the credits. So that was when she was thirteen, she really wanted to be an actress. She said when she was fifteen. She decided she wanted to go into journalism. And now Jatia is the morning news reporter at NBC Fifteen in Mobile Alabama. She told me she has to go to bed at four o'clock in the afternoon because she has to be in the studio at three thirty in the morning. I have always heard that about these morning anchors on the east coast that they have to get up so early. That's batting. Though Jason that is so cool. Isn't that so cool? She said all her coworkers know about her appearance on the office and that fans will mention to her because she's Indian. They'll mention the Walli episode, and then she always like blows their mind when she says. Oh, no I was in it so I thought. Thought. That was so sweet I was in. It I say aligned. That offends Ryan the temp. Yes, exactly except he doesn't quite know, he's being the butt of a joke right? But she said being on office was one of her most memorable moments of her childhood I also love that you know I'm sure rain improvised going up to her with that lightsaber. There's a bunch of deleted scenes where he's fighting with kids with light sabers. and. It didn't make it in, but he he rain looked very much in his element like that's how he bonds with children. Yes, Angela should we check in on those folks that Stanford see how they're doing. You mean the folks drinking yeager Meister. Yeah, how are they an Angela? Did you see what they ordered for dinner? Oh Jenna you and I know firsthand. You do not drink a lotta alcohol and only eat Sushi now Angela. Why do we know that firsthand that? Because at the Golden Globes was at the golden goal shooter. Oh Lady! I was thinking of my Bachelorette Party. There was the Golden Globes, but the Bachelorette wait. Have we repeated this mistake multiple? Except the second time I did better the first time. It did not work out well for me the second time if memory serves sorry to say this on here but it. It hit your sister pretty hard. Yeah! Guy Angela planned a Bachelorette party for me when I was getting married to Lee and she took us all out for Sushi dinner. It was a fancy schmancy. Sushi plays in Beverly Hills that I'd never eaten out I'd only dreamed of and I was like Kim we go there for the Bachelorette. They were thrilled to have us. It was so cute. All of the ladies from office where they're. All of my other friends were there and afterwards you took us to. Hold of Lady Burghley, good this right first of all the Sushi place was your idea, and after the sushi place. You guys I've got cupcakes with her face on it. It was so cute we had lots of free drinks and over the restaurant was very kind and lots a great Sushi and then after the dinner. I was like well. Thank you guys. Generals like what's next and I was like what? Wait why you not is this? I do not. Know Lady All. I had planned was the dinner I didn't plan anything after. Is this the first time you ever hearing of this? This. This is putting the dance club. Into perspective now. Because I thought at the time, it was an odd choice. Because? We've never in a million years gone clubbing. And now we were suddenly clubbing for my Bachelorette but I was like this is great. What a fun! I should say you guys. We had a car I got one of the big limos. All pile in, and I called a friend of mine. who was like always kind of like got. You know you have that one friend? That's like I. GotTa Hook Up. I gotTa Hook. Yeah new I called my friend tests and I was like tests I want to go dancing I were in Beverly Hills. What do I do what I do? And she was like I'm on. It gave me like five ten minutes I. Said Okay, so we kinda high out a little bit and I was like I'm certain out some stuff guide. You remember hanging out on the sidewalk outside. Yes, it's because I didn't have a plan. Because the rest I had planned for was fancy Sushi. And our evening would have been over at like ten o'clock. Yeah, anyway. I get a call from test and she goes all right. Angeles pretty last minute. It's like you know a Thursday night in Beverly Hills so I did get you in this one club I know this guy. He's got a booth for you and they're gonNA give you drink service. It's kind of a random club, but it'll be fun. You guys can dance Angela, it's the only time I've ever experienced bottle service bottle services where you like. They bring you just bottles of alcohol and then mixers and like little. Cut Limes to your table, and you make your dreams when they walk it over. Everyone starts doing at least for us. I think this was the norm. 'CAUSE I was see different people get bottle service and it was like. They shut off like Yeah Betty in the air was so weird. It was so bizarre they had. It was crazy dancing. I remember. We got in trouble because we were dancing on top of the couches and we got reprimanded for that. But guys on our stomachs of Sushi mixed with bottle service long story short at the end of the night as the Limo is dropping, everyone off. My sister puked and Ellie Kemper Bushes. I puked when I got home, it was in my hair I slept in it. It was an epic night, but that's what you get when you mix Sushi and a lot of booze, and that is what is in store for these guys and stay as Jenin. I re watched this episode I, texted her and I was like Oh, lady, alcohol and Sushi. It's so true. It is so true. Should we go back to wally? Because Roy has arrived, and he is watching Pam Dance, and how fun? And I have a full. Mindy catch for year and we've got a stink for thing. There, you go, it's a full mindy catch. Mir during wrote in to say at the. Party when Roy walks in beyond stays, crazy in love is playing in the background. And Angela this was a note in the script Mindy wrote in what Song would be playing when Roy walks in, and that it would be a beyond. Say Song so I think this is a full foale. Mindy I love it. It's a very subtle full, mindy. It's like full mindy when you don't even see. See Mindy, but her presence is still there exactly, and you know my dance partner. We talked about this in the interview with Mindy My dance, Partner Valley okay. He was well known by the writers because he was a writer on my name is earl at the time and he went on to write on thirty rock, and was one of the executive producers of modern family. Oh my gosh. I know lot. Mindy did say guys. He wasn't an actor. He was like a friend of a hearse. That's so wild well can I. Ask you a little bit about your dance moves their Miss Fischer you can. What are you going to say? I've danced with you and I can tell you right now. Folks! That was not a choreographed dance routine. That was just Jenna Band Jenna Yup. We had a fan question from Zara Collins us that same question were those dance moves choreographed. Oh No, oh no, that's all Miss Fischer. That's me fully dancing with my heart and soul. That's hello saint. Louis. Saint Louis Program sounds of Scranton right there. That's the same girl who made a sounds of Scranton playlist everyone. There I am. You could almost rewind me and put me in my high school gym right there. Well, something is GonNa Happen. That is super awkward because that is Michael's way. Michael's way is to take a wonderful moment. And make everyone cringe and the. Diwali was going to be no exception. He you know. has this amazing scene with Mendis parents that play Kelly's parents which we already talked about, and he's so inspired by their love. He's going to do it. Yeah, he's going to do it. They're communit- yeah. He GonNA propose to Carol. In front of a whole room of strangers. On their ninth date. She's like Hera will you do me the honor of making me your husband? Of Making me your husband and she's like. Can we talk about this in private? And this is one of my favorite moments in movies and TV. What into a microphone she's like. Can we talk about it in private? And then he's like Oh man oh craft. Well they have. The parking lot Jonah and who made me laugh so hard that you know. Carol is like I can't do this. My goal I can't do it and he has a last ditch effort his last few moments. What is he going to say? That might change her mind. He's going to go for. What could he say to change this woman's mind? Do you know what he says? Let me come with you I. have this book the Kama? Sutra. She says exactly good night Michael Well at this point. Pam is she's talking to molly and she's realizing something. She wants to reach out to Jim. So, she's GonNa. She's GonNa text thing happened that thing happened. which is you know this this crazy moment just happened? And who does she want to share it with right? This is how you know you really care about someone year personnel out there. Folks is the person you want to tell everything to right after it happens, it's who you bounce. Everything off of and Pam wants to tell her person what just happened? But she runs into an oh. She needs to get her shoes and there is Angelo guarding the shoes, she says. And, eating her dry on by the way, Angela van question from Rainy Greg was the non dry. No, was it actually dry, wasn't it was perfectly fine I? I would say that, too. I ate some of that night. It was wonderful. I was glad to have it. I was probably hungry. Well Jen and I used to always get so tickled to have scenes together because it rarely happened, so we were really excited about this. I loved shooting the scene with you and I love it so much I just want us to play it Sam. Can you play it? Hot in their. House the non dry. Look like you were having fun. I am you should come out with us. I have to watch our shoes, so they don't get stolen. texting no one. Off But. He my character is so nosy. So! Who are you look like? You're having fun? Who You texting? I mean I'd ask you who you're staying. You're the party police? Also you're single. Dwight made this big announcement that he's single I. Don't know maybe you're texting. Dwight, what's happening? Angeles spinning out in this episode and a lot of those scenes ended up getting deleted, but it would be a fun watch to go back and watch them because that is why you are so intense. So now. PAM IS GONNA. Make it outside. She hasn't received a text back from Jim and she sits with Michael. Michael tries to relate to her. He's like wow. They're both victims of broken engagements and PAM's like well. I mean except that, you were never actually engaged, but whatever she tries to bond with Michael, and of course he does that thing that you were just talking about where he just takes it one step too far, and he starts to lean in like he's going to kiss her so awkward. We got a lot of male about it Angela Ruby Alexandra and Vanessa Ortiz. All wrote in to ask if that was a scripted moment when Michael tries to kiss Pam. What was it like it was scripted? You guys that was in the script, and then the thing that great line that Pam House says I'm. Rejecting your kiss. He's like she's like. What are you doing? He's like what are you doing? She's like I'm rejecting your kiss. That's what I'm doing. Yeah! What are you doing? That was all scripted and Angela. I was so excited to do that scene. Because I remember staying late that evening and shooting outside. I talked about this before when I had that scene with John Up on the roof. Where Pam Jim eat the grilled cheese sandwiches. It was one of those warm summer evenings in Los Angeles. They're the best. This was another one of those, and it's one of my fondest memories from shooting the show because I got Steve. Steve All to myself and I got Miguel are Ted. All the myself and mindy was there, and it was just US doing the scene getting it just perfect. It felt like we had all the time in the world, there was no rush and Oh i. just absolutely loved it. Yeah, we'll mindy mentioned you know that. She was kind of jealous of her parents that they got to have this great scene with Steve Because. There are several characters myself included that rarely got to have one on one scenes with Steve. It just wouldn't make sense in the world of the show and whenever I did if felt so special, and I think you've got to have some amazing scenes with him throughout the course of the show, and this is just one of those that was just beautiful and so fun and funny and cringe and. And heartfelt, just all of it. That's all true Angela. We did have someone right in with an old tackler that I thought you would have me up. How'd I miss it? What is it Kayla? Whitehead said Pam's Cell Phone Oh. Yeah is such old tech, but she's like, but also when she walks outside, Michael sees her on the steps, and he notices that she's holding her phone and he. He says expecting a call. She was like no one would say that to you today. If you have your phone in your hand today, no one's like expecting a call because we always all have our phones in our hands is a brilliant catch. I am applauding catch I love that observation, and that is an amazing observation. Because back then. Yeah, your phone was in your purse. It was we didn't. Didn't walk around holding phones like flip phones like that because we did hardly anything with them, other than talk to someone fear holding it. You'd probably spoke to someone or you're about to. Yes, that is a great observation. Great I, WanNa, take us back to Stanford because I. Think there's a moment in this episode. That is the happiest we have seen Andy since he has appeared on the show. Happy Andy and I WANNA talk. WanNa share happy Andy with you. Happy Andy happens at around fifteen minutes. They had a lot of gator Karen though she just tossing her yeager shots into the trash. No one knows it. She's not getting wasted. and Andy starts singing Acappella cairns-like, no ACAPELLA, Andy, but he's drunk and he's singing. The indigo girls closer define and as he drunkenly. All of a sudden Jim, who super wasted starts joining in singing? It's so adorable. Andy's like. Are you kids. Like. He has so happy he's so happy. They're having like an odd cappella moment, and this is happy, Andy. He is thrilled while. Angela. We had a fan catch for Nada Torres. She says it's seventeen minutes fifty eight seconds. You can see a pair of white flops under Karen's death. and. She wanted to know if that was on purpose, but we know why those are there we do. Those were Rashid as flipflops. Yeah, the Wardrobe Department would give us a or flip flops to wear to inform our trailers and set, so we didn't have to walk in. are kind of like high heel office shoes right? Yeah, yes, you caught Rashid flip flops. Wardrobe actually told me one time. Also our trailers were not close to the sound stage. It was a lo- quite a walk. Walk and they said that also they would take our shoes to protect her shoes, because yeah, if we walked across the parking lot back and forth, and sometimes, if there was weather of any kind, they preferred actually to leave our shoes onset by our desks. Yep, rather than US walking around in them all the time and we were delighted because that meant less time in heels. We had our travel shoes. Those were Rashida travel shoes well as they're leaving for the night in Stanford. Jim Is GonNa ride that bike home. He's GonNa ride a bike home, or is he well? Yeah, he falls over well. You know at the end of the night at Stanford they've had yeager. They bonded over indigo girls. I mean Andy's bust now does air mattress. He's like Oh. Yeah, he's. He's staying in A. Jim. Is GonNa. Try to ride his giant bicycle with the big basket home and he likes tips over into the Bushes and Cairns in her car. She's like. Hold Up, get my car drunk, gay and Jenna. Do you remember how freaked out? People were about this moment. Yeah, I mean people thought. Karen was shady that she let them get so wasted and that that was waiting for Janet. Planned it all off. She waiting out in the parking lot for jam, and was like Hey Mr tipsy good. MOCHA and remember this. In this episode. It was written that were gonNA. Like kill I talked to Rashid about it I. Texted with her and I want to read you guys. What she said she said end this episode there. They had written a scene where Jim and Karen. Get sloppy drunk and make out so maybe I guess she had been drinking, too in that different version, right? In that different version because I have the scripted version of that they the three of them go to a bar, and they all get drunk together at a bar. And then they were supposed to make out on the street outside of this bar and Rasheeda said they actually filmed the scene in the parking lot. She said she was really worried. You like everyone's going to hate me. And then she told me Stephen. Merchant, actually suggested that they cut the scene out that he got to watch ca stephen and Ricky would watch our episodes and they would give the producers owns rarely, but sometimes and their notes were always. Correct well, they were always like they knew. Don't move that needle so far and said she felt like Steven really understood the relationships, and this was going too far too bold too quickly, and it would sort of sabotage anything that Jim and Karen might could possibly be as a foil for Pam it was just too much. Yeah I think if you wanted to believe in their relationship, which you will like Jim and Karen are GonNa really have a great relationship. You don't want it to start. Start off with like a sloppy drunk. Make out parking on the side of the street. Kids. Are you listening? Nothing good happens after midnight. Okay, go home. This aunt told me when I went off to college. She said here's my advice to you about sleeping around. This is what she said she said. You're going to go to these parties. You'RE GONNA do some drinking, and you might in in the moment WanNa make a decision. That's impulsive. She said my advice to you is go home. Because you can always wake up in the morning and say I wish I'd slept with that guy, and you can do something about it, but you can't undo. You can't undo. Yeah, I'm with your aunt. You can't undo but I. was Kinda Lehman College when I turned twenty. One I had a big paper due. For a class I was taking and all my friends were like you're going to go out your twenty first birthday. And I said Oh no I need to work on my paper so I worked on my paper, and my dad had a Texaco gas card and he would pay my Texaco gas card. Just like reality bites would go to that gas station and I would get gas bread sandwich. Meat potato chips. Everything and I went to Texaco and bought myself a Koran, Nita. Corona! It's core Anita. 'cause I was twenty one and I went and I worked on my term paper and I had my core Anita and that was my twenty first birthday. That is literally adorable. That is adorable. Dork Lady. That's why we would have been friends I would've hung out with you and your cat. We would have been besties. This is also why as adults we mixed Sushi with a lot of hard liquor, and as we didn't learn and call Hitler where we at I don't even know where we're at except that Karen. Put Jiminez car, and now we go back to wally in. It's one of my favorite moments. Ever Dwight and Michael are going to perform a cover of Adam Sandler's Hannukah Song. Dedicated to Indians everywhere. Yes the crowd loves it, Angeles so many people wrote in asking about this song. Was it improvised? A lot of people thought that because Steve was holding a piece of paper that maybe we wrote this on the fly. No, this was in the script, and in fact can't told me it had been in the script as far back as the pre table draft. This is kind of a writer's turn, but they send out a draft of the script before they let anyone see it and they have to give it to all of the main. Main producers so that they can start planning wardrobe and locations and Kent said that at that Pre table draft. This was the tag for the episode, and it remained there until we shot it, so they got permission, and all that kind of stuff, and he said Steve Ask for that piece of paper, because he felt like his character wrote at the Party, and that would sell the idea that this was like a last minute idea by Michael Yeah Yeah. I thought the same thing I thought Michael Michael needed those notes Steve did not. Right. Yeah well. It's so good and I have a really great catch. I'M GONNA call it a bff catch. What is it at twenty minutes thirty four seconds? After, he's finished singing in pants to the crowd and everyone cheers. You and I are sitting side by side on the floor together. Oh my Gosh Angela. You know we did that. Ourselves I know. We sat together. We probably were I mean I. Remember them doing that Song. We were all just elated and along for the ride it was so fun and I think we I think. We just sat next to each other, because they probably weren't even sure if they were going to use that. Big Swing back to the crowd right? Yes, and so there we are on the ground next to each other bff catch. That is the perfect way to end this podcast episode of to Wally. We did it with a BFF. Can we should a N. thank you so much to Mindy Kaeling for stopping by? I just felt like we kept talking and talking and I can't wait for her to come back and if you get a chance, go check out Mendis new show that she co created with Lang Fisher. It's so cute. It's a coming of age kind of comedy drama called never have I ever, and the cast is wonderful in the writing as great. Can you guys if you watch it? You'll see Angela on it. Because the Angela's in it in a couple of episodes. Yes, I'm in two episodes I play the mom I play one of her nemesis. Mom and it was really fun. I'll be the mom all day long Jenna I know. Yeah casting folks out there. If you need a mom with a little bit of us, give me a call. You know where to go guys, thank you so much. This was a really fun. One and we will be back next week with bridge worse. See then I. Thank you for listening to office. Ladies Office ladies is produced by Ear Wolf Jenna Fischer Angela. Our producer is cody Fisher are sound engineers, Sam Kiefer and our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton for ad free versions of the show and our bonus episodes candy bag go to stitcher premium dot com for free one-month trial of stitcher premium. Use Code Office.
An UnFROGettable Day At the Museum of Wow! (encore)
"Hey Mindy Year and just in case you haven't heard we are coming back with all new episodes. Starting this coming Monday February seventeenth nineteenth. We've got exploding stars. We've got P. bubbles. We've got breathing out of butts. We've got silly shrimp dancing and it's all in the name of science so mark your calendars for all new episode. Every Monday starting on February seventeenth. And while we're here I just wanted to let you know that tickets are available for all of our upcoming spring live shows as well the wow in the world POPs up party laboratory of bad ideas tour. Part is coming to Taraf more hall in Bethesda Maryland. On Saturday February twenty-ninth the Keswick Theater in Glenside Pennsylvania. Just outside outside of Philly on Sunday march fifteenth. The Elgin Theatre in Toronto Canada on Saturday April Eighteenth and the Berkeley Performance Center in Boston. Massachusetts on Sunday may seventeenth grownups for more INFO and tickets to any of these live performances. Just visit tigger cast dot com slash slash events. That's tinker cast dot com slash events. That's it and now let's get on with the show. The report battery Good morning friends and so glad you could join us first. Senior Citizen Day at CMO. Wow they mindy oh great. We invite you here today because humans over one hundred years old get in free and this is the first day of the museums. Exciting New Amphibian Exhibit Amphibian is the scientific name for a group of animals that begin their lives with Gills and tails in the water but later grow legs and lungs for a new life on land. In fact the word right and Vivian means double life like the double life of turning from a tadpole into abroad. Yes a process known as -morphosis versus are you. Are you sleeping. What no who was sleeping allergies? This is sure to be an UNCLOG gettable day. The museum promises some of the most wow worthy in riveting new scientific discoveries on all sorts of cold blooded vertebrates toads newts and salamanders years. But it's day we're going to focus on my personal favorite. Never sit the frogs or my favorite favorite. Now before we begin our day. I just want to take a quick roll-call to make sure we're all here so please wake up and just say present. Hasn't when I call your name. Okay Mindy Reggie Thomas fingerling whereas earns Graham Emma G. force fours catch you hear nothing. Okay okay before we go in. I should probably lay down some ground. Rules pouring ground pools talking about museum. Ever say rule number one we are operating on a buddy the system. Today everybody must stick with their partner at all times mindy that is a concrete statue of a bald old eagle. I'll be your buddy okay that Hamas fingerling grandma. I'm going to pair the two of you up as well. I see the Oh good looking athletes together. So what are we play badminton. Roz what about Reggie Reggie's GonNa be. We are chaperone for today he. He's most mature member of our group and the only one with a childcare degree. So if anyone gets lost or herder order needs to take a bathroom break you be sure to let Reggie No. Okay go to the bathroom. We haven't even gotten into the museum yet. Hurry threes fan even more. I'm wearing a diaper anyway. So no no one is going to pee their pants. Just go to the restroom Mimi at the ticket booth and five minutes Okay Award Oh boy. Welcome to senior citizens. The Museum of wow anyone over the age of one hundred gets free admissions. Uh looks like today's your Lucky Day sir. Who me he can't hear? Yes you my friend. Old Folks get in free two day. Will you be needing any special assistance as you move throughout the museum floor. Oh well I think you must be mistaken. I am not an all Croak. I'm practically practically a polygraph. I'm sorry my bad I guess it's just the student that elbow patches just kind of threw me off. My granddad wears the same out that the juniors department and look. This tie is a clip on. Don't tell anyone world this in a senior citizen and we have another one as well. He's right in the. Where's Thomas fingerling? Elaine look over there does not fingerling road run to old growth into poly walk and a pigeon He doesn't like to talk about his age weightman. The I just remembered Reggie's families one of the museums. Major donors an entire wing named after why there was a wing sticking out of the side of the building like that on our way. Oh cool. Major donors major donors get in free and so do all the fun you guys okay. So where should we start. I well looking at the map here. I think we should make our first stop at the hall. Call of mini frogs. Midi frogs. Manu of Basie was born. Never the way we would allow back leg. Yeah I was just reading about these mindy frogs. I mean many frogs. In fact three new species were just discovered on the island of Madagascar. A team of evolutionary biologists were the ones to find them an evolutionary evolutionary biologists scientists who studies how all different types of life on earth evolved from one common ancestor. Exactly right and isn't a species. Basically just a group of living things that have so much in common they can get together and reproduce or make more of themselves for example we humans belong to the Homo sapiens species right and so who were these evolutionary biologists who found these new frog species. Well there there was a whole team of them led by a scientist named Mark Shirts. And he's from Ludwig Maximilian University in Munich Germany. So what market sure is in his team of biologists. What with finding a bunch of many frogs? I mean sounds like it would be a lot easier to find. Big Frogs toads even well. How how many are we talking here? Because I haven't even seen them yet in already. I can feel my cute gration kicking. It looks like we're at the hall of mini frogs. Now let's see ourselves book. Thank you very much. I took I think we've been duped what there's a big old query him with some plans inside inside but not seeing any frogs froggy brought froggy usually works mindy. If we can't find these mini frogs the museum of just imagine how difficult it must've been for this team of biologists to find them in the wild forests of Madagascar car. Well if they were tiny defined easily than how did these scientists even know that they were there. Well that's a good question you see. The scientists could appear different. Sounds of the mini frog. So they would try to follow in the direction of their calls. But I bet as soon as the frog detected the scientists coming up bon them. They leap up in hop away. Well it was like an interspecies game of Marco Polo and that was just the first obstacle. You see once. They were finally able to capture some of these frogs the biologists found that they were too tiny to even tell apart. Yeah ask so exactly. How tiny are we talking here? You Might WanNa take out your magnifying goggles. This one because the biggest one of the species. ABC's who the scientist named many actor small enough to fit on a human thumbnail largest mini frog concerned. Dollar heroin thumbnail. No I wish I still had human thumbnails. And if you think that's small you need to meet miniscule and mini mini. Mum Home Phone guys. Are you telling me that. These scientists name these new species mini adventure. Miniscule Excu all and many mum well you know. Scientists are known for being kind of funny so if many assure is small enough to fit on a thumbnail then how small are many. You'll in many many SC. You'll is actually a little smaller smaller than many actor so smaller than a thumbnail. Yup and many mom. The smallest of the new species is as small all is a staple or a grain of rice rice mini patties magnifying goggles. These tiny for myself who needed a little burst through this wall froggy in she fraud taking. We're now what is he doing. Only only what's in John Paul. How tiny little phrases you can quit on top of it and what are you doing black sleep in get in there? This is a disaster. Yeah sorry go candidate off to career in the Bronx. You're coming with us. Well now we need to squeegee the frog water off at the security early office. She'll be staying there so she can't damage anymore exhibits you can pick her up on your way out and stop singing. I think that's Excuse me everyone on. We're going to need you to move onto the next exhibit. This one is closed. So where do we go next. Mindy take the map a map. How many paces to the buried treasure Sherrit me? Timbers I'll be captain Captain Jack Russell terrier and Mindy can be Orlando Bloom. Where exactly do you think we are right now? Just next EXOO ribbit is going to be. So wow the whole thing takes place. In the pitch-black Darkness for added effect work garnered affect a Napping Ping. Did Not come here to NAP. The reason it takes place in the pitch-black darkness is because it's supposed to help us to see some unusual double feature of the frogs featured in it. Okay I'm intrigued. Let's go check it out. Mindy flashlight in your adventure. Toolkit by any chance. Oh No oh guy rose a flashlight would ruin the whole experience. What we'll need is my ultraviolet? You realize check this baby out. It's like a black light that makes things glow they're white or fluorescent. Follow me everyone to the Atlantic forest of eastern them long eastern Brazil. We just got to the museum and we promise Your Grandma G. Force that we'd be back to get rid of security soon. Be Fine G.. Three fourths went to Brazil last week. No no you guys. Were not leaving the museum. We're just going to the next ribbit it's modeled after the Atlantic forest dip eastern Brazil Brazil. My favorite time of year and how that my eyes are just into the dark like kind of amphibian are we actually looking for fell all. Describe it for you. It Kamala nickel bright orange like Pumpkin and look like a rock because it's brock. Oh Oh any of that. You need to work on your instructional clarity Mr Okay. I'm looking baller than a nickel bright orange Pumpkin and looks like a frog right. And according to the map he can be found hiding anywhere in this X.. Ribbons and the a strange feeling. We're not in the museum anymore. This is looking and feeling pretty lifelike. That's all part of the experience Skyros. Now let's lock arms wander through in search of this Bra. d'armes what are we playing Red Rover. Oh Ooh let me put on my Red Rover and Jews those away all right. Give me your here. We go inclusion include Nichols frogs. Hello there it from welcome to senior day at the Museum of. Wow how many groups do we have here today. Well highly. Hi polly walk. We're trying to find the nickel-sized pumpkin frogs. Yes you're looking for the PUMPKIN toilet. Well L. Look no further. I happen to have one right here. Eighteen no grants but I can tell you all about it. We're all ears. Well the Pumpkin told his not all ears in fact because of its underdeveloped ears it is completely deaf which means it can't even hear the mating calls of its own species. Well if it can't hear the mating calls of its own species than how is the Pumpkin toilet. Suppose to find a mate and reproduce to make more pumpkin toilets. Yeah or the mail told the Post to show off for the ladies like other frogs do if the ladies can't even hear their sweet cokes. Yeah explain that one smarty smarty pants well according to a recent study led by scientists Sandra goot from NYU Abu Dhabi. The answer to that question chicken is just under the frog's skin under the skin. What do you mean well? Can I borrow that ultraviolet flashlight you got their what. Oh yeah sure thank you okay. Now Watch what happens when I shine this. Ultraviolet light on the PUMPKIN toilets skin skin glowing they seem to be glowing glowing or bright blue color. Those bones are progressing through with bright orange. Skin shame that you'd be laid on me on a C. N. I can get my bones to glow. Yeah yeah it almost looks like a blue light is coming from the tiny bony plate in its head and the bones in the back of its. It's lags it's like a fluorescent skeleton. If the pumpkin totaling can't hear a don't call much less the calls a mother pumpkin toilets. Then scientists think that maybe it uses its glowing bones to find mates instead you know like as a way of keeping of light on well. That's one theory as to why these frogs might have glowing bones but we still don't know for sure if the Pumpkin toilets can see the glow. Well then what's the point of having glowing glowing bones if you can't even show them up to your froggy friends good airbase. I'm sorry Sir Sir Sir do you have a frog. Believe you're supposed to taste like what are you doing. I mean I know that some burns at the ability to leap lessons with their own eyes and definitely don't have you realize the frogs are not for eating to try everything once I always say and I also know that birds are natural predators two frogs so may be eighty eight the pumpkin total in his mouth. I I can see a glowing GCA. were very long while Sir. According to a study published in the journal scientific reports one of the reasons the pumpkin total it might glow is to signal to would be predators that they are in fact. Talk Sick Ling that Pumpkin is. This is a disaster spin out Out Spit it out. Trying to sell me. Poison buys hot dogs online. The money back. You know what we were actually just getting ready to head out before we go. Just WanNa make sure I I got this straight okay. So the pumpkin toilet is a tiny toxic frog that can not here has newly discovered glowing allowing bones and scientists have a few theories. There's still on a quest figure out. Why Yeah Great? Well thank you very much for your tour to this amazing eggs. Yeah we're really sorry. Our friend who tried to eat it blew learn. Now do you think you could point us to the security slammer. I need to pick up my grandma G. force. She's in for setting all the many dogs free. was you people. I should call security. Oh Boy Boston out your way security. They're here in the PUMPKIN bumpkins spite. I mean the Pumpkin toilet exhibit. Hold on a second Yes how can I help you there Mr Pigeon. Oh you're the chaperone known for these people. 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Podcast: The Situation in Iran: An Interview with Mindy Belz
"In Morris the Colson Center for Christian worldview today on a special episode of the breakpoint. PODCAST Johnstone Street interviews World Magazines Mindy Mindy Bells about the killing of Iranian General Qassim Solo Mani and the situation in Iran. What prompted the? US take him out now. What should the American public know about Soleimani and Iran's intentions in the Middle East and what are the implications for the future of the region? Here are John Stonestreet and Mindy Bells. Welcome to the point podcasts. I'm inviting back on someone who has become quite a familiar face in recent weeks. Our friend Mindy Belt Senior editor at World magazine World Newsgroup Mindy. A whole lot is going on in the Middle East and that's your specialty and called you frantically last minute saying. Hey let's have a conversation about all of these breaking news items and really grateful to have you back again on the break point cast. Yes happy New Year and here we go happy new year off we go. I mean listen. I don't think the ticker tape in New York City is even been cleaned up yet and here. We have an incredible. ooh developing story and really to be fair. It's a story that has been developing for months and we saw escalation over the holidays. which is this esscalation escalation between the United States and Iran culminating in an announcement Thursday night? That really I guess. The top military figure in Iran the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards coots force Qassim Sulamani and he's being described as a cult leader across Iran was taken out in a drone strike by the United States. And listen. We're hearing this being compared to you. Know the assassination of archduke Ferdinand meaning war. One we're hearing it called an assassination nation. Folks like David. French have been very careful to talk about. No listen. This is happening in a military theater. You know it's very important that it was taken out any rock a whole lot of details and I'm so grateful you can help us kind of walk through it all so first of all who is Qassim Sulamani. Still the money has been the commander of the force which is the elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guards. And so if you WANNA think about that think think about like the CIA and all of our special forces combined. That's the kind of elite unit that we're talking about. He was tapped tapped to lead that force. I believe in the late eighties early nineties right after the Iran Iraq war when his predecessor was gunned down in Damascus Bascus. And what I think is important for us to know so what he did. He's sort of branded. The coots force made it. The Iran Spear had unit net leading this expansion across the Mediterranean. So we saw under Sulejmani was how Iran came in and supported. Deported over and over and over again the Assad regime in Syria back it up supported Hezbollah gave Hezbollah enough power to become really not only military force and tear of course but a political force in Lebanon and then as well as Syrian war unfolded we saw Hezbollah fighters streaming streaming into Syria in support of Assad. This was all the work of full monty. He seems to show up almost everywhere and I mean even in the fact. Act that you know here. We have these escalating issues in Iraq where the US embassy is essentially ambushed attacked during the holiday season and You know in. Here's the here's the question. What Sulamani doing their Iraq? Why is he flying into the Baghdad airport? At this point I would say that money has probably spent more time in recent years in Iraq and Syria than he has in Iran. I was standing sandy on the Golan Heights with a group of journalists and intelligence officer from Israeli defense forces in two thousand seventeen and we were getting a briefing and he pointed to what what was a safe zone then. A U N declared safe zone in Syria and he so we know that Sulejmani was here last week. That's how he was. And so the Israelis and the United States and others have been tracking him. I think when significant to understand about Iraq is that as us has told back and this vacuum him has created. We saw isis step into that vacuum but Iran stepped into that vacuum also when the Iraq army began its military offensive offensive to liberate towns and cities from Isis. In twenty seventeen Sumani was the one leading those forces the Iranians brought in in these militias supporting Iraq government and the Iraqi government was at the same time allied with the United States. So we've had this tension building where the united needed states is trying to support Iraq but we also trying to pull back and where the Iranians are stepping in led by Lemani. Every step of the way to try to fill fill that vacuum and that's the tension that we saw escalate until we saw fire coming from the US embassy on New Year's Eve. Why is the thought there that Iran was behind those attacks on the embassy as well? I think it was pretty clear. Based on the statements that were put out by the Pentagon and the Secretary of Defense Esber her that Dan the day following we were getting from journalists clips and from others pretty decent video clips of this group that First of all penetrated into the Green Zone. What's now called the international zone and then began to penetrate the outer wall of this vast compound compound that encompasses the US embassy inside that zone when they did that? We were getting up close video images and we're able to see the clerics who were we're leading it and the people who are leading. That effort was pretty quick to say we've identified some of these people. We know that they are affiliated with Iran that they're part tired of these militias that have been attacking US spaces. I mean have to just Kinda take a commercial break your John and say that in the we in the United States for the last few months consumed with Peach Mint hearings and things related to that the Middle East has been kind of exploding. We've seen unprecedented marches across Lebanon Iraq and Iran. All of them have been focused on a growing street. Frustration with what Sumani represented and what happened was Sumani began to direct. I think a counter-offensive that included these Iranian late clerics and militia types who penetrated the American compound the United States. Aw that as as something of a razz mind. I think that that there was a message that they received on New Year's Eve when they saw flames coming up from the American embassy. I see that this was going too far. And the American lives were now stake in this kind of run up. I guess it and the breakpoint podcast is many belts. He's giving have some contacts for all of the breaking news over the last several days in the escalating tensions between Iran and the US and many since you mentioned a commercial break. Can I just stop real quick and say if you need any other reason to subscribe to World magazine than all of the incredible contacts that you've just been hearing here in the first I eight minutes of this podcast. I don't know how to convince you. Subscribe to World Magazine. And here's the special. Offer that the Colson Center has right now in our ongoing a long partnership with the World News Group which is any gift over twenty five dollars during the month of January will earn you a free subscription to world magazine for the year that you can use for yourself or if you already ready get world you can gift it to someone else and you can find out more information on that at breakpoint dot org. Okay that's my commercial break back to this context because it's so helpful. I want to read you a tweet from Nancy. Pelosi all right. How's that for a setup? Here's what she wrote. You're on Friday morning. American leaders highest priority is to protect American lives and interest. We cannot put the lives of American servicemembers diplomats and others further at risk by engaging in provocative disproportionate actions. Now there's so much loaded into that and I'm GonNa look at both sides of it. It's clear that the decision to take out Sumani with with this drone strike is an escalation. Right I mean. There's no one's questioning that when it's been compared to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand that launch world war. One is just the thing that's GONNA GONNA Launch World War three you know. It's not because at all soon money's any sort of kind of noble figure but is an act like this big enough trigger to set it off given the powder under keg. That's been around it and you're right. I mean America has been focused in on impeachment hearings while this whole thing has kind of exploded and so I want to look at both sides of this. You know our point point I describe. Obviously you don't have the assassination virtue Vernon starting more one without a million other details happening around in a million other players ready to pounds. Give us an idea. Many of we talk about some Amani. We're talking about Syria. We're talking about Russia. Certainly obviously we're talking about Iran and Iraq. I mean in other words give us a lay of the land. Why is this and I note for you? This is what you've kind of lived and breathed but again a lot of Americans probably who is this guy. And why is this such a big deal. Oh so can you kind of give us a picture when you know Speaker Pelosi says this is a big deal. That's the thing that everybody agrees with. Why is it such a big deal? Well well a couple of things in just looking at the political situation or maybe the geopolitical situation I on the politics may want policies same dovetails with Elizabeth Warren who called Halden reckless. Move Joe Biden. Cada something equivalent to toss you stick of dynamite into the region and I think you know I've been very critical will of president trump and some of the ways. He has carried out policy in the Middle East. Most notably his decision not tober which was communicated via a tweeted statement from the White House said the. US was pulling back from Syria so that Turkey could move in. We know we found out subsequently that our troops on the ground our Kurdish allies on the ground were not notified. That was the first that they learned about that. I would call as reckless move and I think think it's important to look at this. This was very different. This was a strike that happened. No one thought coming. Obviously General Sulamani didn't otherwise he would not have been arriving on a plane at a commercial airport in view if everyone the US clearly coordinated because we would not have dropped bombs on the road leading outside of the airport tilt him and his top people without a very coordinated attack. It was immediately followed by a statement from the Pentagon explaining why in very clear terms so I think reckless move is inaccurate. But as you say when we get to the geopolitics six. This is a tender box and Joe Biden. You could be. We may have just tossed US take dynamite in there. I think though that we should also so listen to some other experts and some people the case it's being made by this administration but this is perhaps a punctuation. This is perhaps the United States saying we're putting an end to this chapter. This person was an instigator of state-sponsored terrorism and the State Department her documented. More than six hundred Americans who have died as a result of his actions. This is a person who was clearly at the forefront the front of spreading Iranian influence which includes radical Islam anti terrorist tactics and nuclear armaments. This is the person who the lead of spreading across the region through Iraq to Syria to the Mediterranean. And so. I think that there's a case to be made for are. Let's put a stop to this and it's something that neither the Obama Administration or the Bush Administration seem to you know seized upon the opportunity to take on on. I think that the concern or the you know the charges of recklessness. The conservative forward is that you have all of these forces arrayed in the Middle East now that you have Russia allied with Iran and Syria supporting the Assad regime. And you have Turkey pressing down across the border. Turkey has crossed border and has emptied cities in northeast Syria and has taken up positions there and they are faced off. I was there in November or and I saw the Russian convoys and the Turkish bombs falling they are facing one another and he put something into the middle of this and I think the huge element woman. If we don't know what will happen next. Yeah well there's a difference between not knowing what will happen and not taking the opportunity and the necessary step. That's their Shane Morris here again as John mentioned for the month of January. Were offering a free subscription to world magazine in exchange for your donation to the Colson Center. This this offer includes twenty four print issues as well as full access to digital content from a trusted news source that is grounded in hope and Biblical truth. You can give today okay and receive your subscription at breakpoint dot org slash January. That's breakpoint dot org slash January now. Let's get back to John. Stonestreet and many bells. I appreciated this clarification. David French offered a very who's often very severe critic critic of the president but his take on why this is not an assassination. It's says it's important. The sooner money was killed in Iraq because American troops are lawfully in Iraq Iraq by Congressional authorization with the permission of the Iraqi government they were reintroduced. By the Obama Administration. This is Obama's deployment as much as trump's its proper then it's proper proper now. Iranian backed militias attacked. US troops lawfully present in a combat zone under valid legal authorities. So America's military response isn't limited to immediate self defense. It can act to remove the threat. The True Act of war was Iran's by putting one of its commanders boots on the ground in Iraq to assist in planning and directing acting attacks on US forces and not to mention what we already know. SOULA MOM was an evil evil man. I want to get into that in just a second. But you know that's something I think that's very important is that at this took place in Iraq. Iraq has been you know we have troops. They are deployed. And were there by permission of the Iraqi government in here. You have this hostile no player who's been orchestrating Things like this for really decades. Now you know kind of walking around in the middle of escalated tensions. I mean that's not a a random. Assassination attempt is it. I believe that's right and I believe one thing that we should be watching that. How often Americans we we do these things that we I have a short attention span? It's really important to me watching the response in the street and in Baghdad for instance at four in the morning today today you had people out in the streets celebrating general rule money's death and I think that's significant the other thing that we need to be paying attention. We WanNa pay a lot of attention to is that. The United States to put sanctions on Sony's could sports starting back in late late spring and into the summer just increasingly tightened sanctions. The trump administration called them maximum pressure designed to limit the activities of the coots force and militia that was sponsoring in Iraq. Those shows have been occupying none of a plane and areas around where they move in when Isis moved out or was driven out and they have effectively been blocking Christian from UCD's from returning to their homes and that's something that we just haven't seen a lot of coverage of that and I think it's going to be really important to see what happens to those cities and towns. This would be around Mozell and the town of Care Coche places you and I have talked about if those militias suddenly dismantle if the Iraq army is able to move in or some of it there are Christian militias and local militias. That can move in and more properly secure those places. Ah and allow more people to return home. This could be a huge development in other words for the persecuted. Christians persecuted disease in it places and it could have been a very positive thing. We talked about the embassy incidents over the holiday season over new years but we also have the Iranian attack on Saudi oilfields. We also have this. You know the Iranians taking credit for shooting down a US drone we also have you know certainly pompeo and others for saying a nominee pompilio but many people in the administration now are talking about how you know. Sumani is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. What's the track record here? Because I think it's Kinda tempted to see this as just kind of a one off event in sudden escalation is kind of how it's being described bride but there's a whole track record here we saw. I am particularly if you just look over the past year. We saw just a growing for open hostility in new Software if you remember that the running to cost a British oil tanker in the Gulf of believe it was right there the Straits and hormones that whole area area we saw in June two oil tankers attacked there were incidents and may have seen this growing incidents throughout the year and then multiple shoot downs as well that again we were always tying them back to Iran Iran Rosa always denying them but I think the intelligence on this is pretty clear that Iran was behind these things. And there's just this long track record of Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism and I think the United States has you know thought these long terror wars gone after Osama bin Laden gone after Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi but we hadn't hadn't gone against the state sponsors who have to be behind some of screw it. I'm not necessarily saying those leaders but but there's a lot of evidence what's that Iran has been pushing numerous terror groups and we just simply not gone after them in the way that the trump administration is doing now and part of the reason is the risk. That's involved and that is that we don't know if what we will see in the coming. Weeks is an escalation of attacks on oil tankers or shutting down the street performers. Those of us who are around in the nineteen seventies. Remember the long gas lines that came because the ayatollah came into power and then throttled down the oil supply. These are things that are certainly possibilities but I think the trump administration hoping that the Iranian regime is weakened. Enough enough toilets are old. The commanders are old. We're talking about military. Commanders in their sixties and beyond and sanctions have had a tremendous yes affect on the Iranian economy and. I think that they're hoping that this might be the moment to strike movie. Well predictions as Yogi. Berra said are dangerous especially especially the ones about the future and it's hard to imagine a that. There wasn't justifiable cause in this decision. It is a very different approach than we have seen in previous previous administrations. And I think that's what's Kinda got everyone kind of with their eyes wide open in the deer-in-the-headlight looks like wow. This is kind of really happening and then on the other hand you know that that is the question is Iran the power that it says it is are they going to retaliate. Like they say they are and is this GonNa drag Russia and other players into a global conflict. Are you willing to make any predictions. That's really tough. I I guess I would preface it by saying this that I think you know our political leaders talk a lot about ending these costly wars but the fact is that we've been in these costly wars because this sticks are significant in this part of the world not only because of oil and other resources because the Middle East represents the birthplace of the largest largest religions in the world is always going to be a place of passion and because it represents a place where three continents come together it is always going to be strategic and so I think that I always feel like Americans have to get past idea of ending costly wars and saying what is the cost of what is benefit fit and and so to me if we have by taking out one person say a norm unrest and the havoc and continued Oronte and build up and offensive tactics that we know lead to terrorism that we known lead to civil war. More that we know lied to harm to Christians and other minorities in the region that to me seems like a cost with benefits. And I think what we want to try try to do is think the American people are smart enough to see when move a strategic and has good benefits for us what we don't want to just this endless endless ticking ticking ticking picking of fighting terrorists and then watching them come back so I think this is a decisive move and I hope that that moving forward we will see that it makes a decided change for US vague prediction. Well well. It's as good as any I think and that would be the kind of the hopeful response and I mean how long have we kind of appeased Iran. How long have we you know? Not Basically communicated indicated in any level. Hey we mean in business say what you want about. This president has decisions in you and I have talked about some of his other foreign policy decisions critically. This is a decisive if move this is a move that clearly sends a message. And it's a hard thing to celebrate amine. The Lord doesn't rejoice in death of the wicked neither should we and and yet at the same time the world we live in is a complicated place and the Middle East in particular so many. It's always great to have you on the breakpoint podcast. I'm really really grateful for the chance to just bring some clarity to the context surrounding so many different incidents that we see from a long way away and don't always know I know about and this has been a really helpful conversation about WHO General Sumani was and kind of what all of this means and we'll continue to watch and see what happens but again mindy belts has been my guest today. She is a senior editor at World magazine. Also the article terrific book. They say we're infidels. Make sure you pick that up Mendi great to have you on the breakpoint podcast. Great to be with you John Thank you so much. Thanks for listening to the break point podcast again to get your subscription to world magazine with your next gift to break point and the Colson Center go to breakpoint dot org slash January and join us again Wednesday on the breakpoint podcast. When John will discuss the events in Iraq and Iran in light of the Christian? Just war theory. His guests will be scholar. J Darrell Charles Author of America's Wars. And the just war the tradition for the Colson Center. I'm Shane Morris.
Gaming Your Way to Zen (encore)
"Welcome to inside tinker cast studios, the show where I reminisce and revisit my favorite why when the world episodes I'm your host Dennis. And Reggie's here to make sure I. Stick to the script. That so important I mean for instance if I want to talk about them. I am not easily distracted. Fine. Let's introduce today's episode of Wow in the world. That's true. It's one of my favorite episodes season three episode five gaming your way to send. In this episode Mindy and Guy Tried to alleviate stress. Screws me. To use this microphone. fingerling, what are you doing, right? How pipe down attention rouser! Grabbing the Mike and putting it next to your mouth. That's too close. This is how did it so this is how I'm going to do it. Find, I, suppose. We better do this right here, pigeon. On My Music Off. Tension houser on Tuesday June thirtieth good to hear what's in while thinking playbook will be out in the world. Celebrate Mindy and guy. 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Tinker cast studios. And now inciting your cast studios brings to you a special encore presentation of one of my favorite episodes of wow in the world gaming your way to send. Rowlett. Hey let's. Zucchini beans should definitely either I, shouldn't you? Yes, you should. Then, yes, Cana leamy beans! Get over here. Guys, there you go Kay. How we doing for time. As zoodles! What's the the time is currently eleven o clock. AM This only work with Mindy is not here. Right on. Manby Hope. What you do and in here your years burning. No. I was trying to see inside them with this candle and almost got a little too close mindy always find guy rise. The candle was made out of my own ear wax. Any you I was over there trying out minute. By looking through your windows Mandy couldn't help but notice you pacing over here. At. Little Buddy. Oh, Mindy! It's a disaster I have a very important guest coming over for dinner. Tonight in my house is a complete mess. This is by far the cleanest room I've been in at least two weeks. Well, that's very kind of humidity, but you don't have to humor me. Just take a look pie. Legume collection is even alphabetized. What might? Collection Oh your fancy beam, mindy. They're not just beans. Who's the lucky leprechaun that gets to share a seven course ancient grains, diggle se on with the one and only guy or at. Professor Montague. Montague! To Your old etiquette professor from college. That's right. That's right. She's the one who gave me my graduation elbow patches. She taught me the difference between a an oval soup spoon in a cream soup spoon. She even helped me refine my southern drawl. How does a tend to come out a bit when I get anxious? Excuse me. Man, so you're saying that this is the professor that turned you into NPR Toke bag carrying New Yorker. Reading four I wonder kiddy art today. Exactly this is such a big deal, mindy, how? Look, all you need to do is just chilling. The. Somewhere talk here it is here. It's a stress ball. Is your face on the stress. Ball a you know it. I mean what's more relaxing mug. And pointing at my face, thanks, I appreciate the offer, but I don't think it's GonNa work I've already tried all my usual stress. Reduction Techniques I've got my age of sleep drunk. All of my camomile tea I even tried using my meditation APP. Okay time to relax and welcome to mobile device guided meditation. Yoga through the. Singh Hello Theodore. Guy Razz. Focus on your body. and. I turn on my air purifiers on all this breathing. It did I answer all those emails I. Don't think about that. Manifest as images now. We are at the beach. Oh, I, hope it's a protected beach it is the sorry is out. Share probably brought some of my son block with me. A sea breeze tussles your air playfully. And Downer next breath. Falls away. In the I think those techniques just made me more stressed out well. You know what kills me out when I'm stressed, what some good old fashion TV me! TV for ten years, but there is a giant home theater somewhere in gingerbread man. What do you say Do. You have any new episodes of data bait. Sure it's streaming on pet. Flex me, see here at flicks. Yeah, that APP that streams just animal videos like your typical cats playing pianos, monkeys riding segues that kind of thing let me see here. Dramas comedies documentaries here. It is data bait all twenty three seats. Well, maybe a little time off from organizing my leg. Ume Collection would help me clear my head so at settled. You'll stop alphabetizing your beans, Mindy. They are very rare and expensive legumes. Please bear p the details you get it. It's a plan beans. Well Lima GonNA get Outta here. Yeah, yeah, hold on! Let me just step for these Humza wing. Covering up those beans with tiny blankets. Will of course I. Don't want them to get cold, do I? Sleep tight, sweet beans I mean dreams. Right. Okay. Next. On! Television, is there any other kind live? There is I. Don't WanNa. Know about it what? What? What? All right now. Where did I leave that theater? You don't remember where you left your giant whole movie theater. We never remember where I left it last week, but then I did some shuffling around on Thursday and Let me just. Else. Do you have your ticket? Take it now, just joking popcorn. Have you got Kale Chips Kale chips? Let me see here. No I'm fine. Thanks sued yourself now. Where should we sit? This place is always so MD. Woo! That's because it's in your house. Mindy Oh yeah oh? Look? The commercials are starting at Glen Down Commercials I thought. We were just watching TV. We are in a use it down here. I'M GONNA. Go unhealthy amount of popcorn and be right back. Are you stressed out by visitors to your home for example? It could professor. And have you tried on herbal teas, stress balls and meditation APPs you can handle. Will? Maybe it's time you visit us at the flow retreat. So, of course, it is here at flow, we approach stress relief, scientifically using the latest relaxing vocation to help you pump. That sounds perfect. Hey, mindy. I think I've found out exactly what I need to unwind. Watching! I think I found something even better. Check it out for the prevention of tension and to. Be E BE GB freebie join US said flu retreat. Today Think of that. For this place, Really Yeah Reggie one minute video game competition during his East Sports Bays. Is there anything that bird can do? well build a nest kind of weird that they'd be giving away to a relaxation spot of video game competition is this. Hey, gamers need to relax to Cairo is. Have you seen Reggie play Nightingale, talk about an angry bird. That is true, Mindy. Okay? Let me just finish this popcorn, and then we can head out the. You can't just leave it year. You don't have to. Get to go. So how are we getting their? Mindy? The wow machine, take reggie power walking well. The. Wow, machine is in the wash. Reggie is visiting his parents and power. Walking is for Wednesday's. which me? Behold the all new and improved. Pig. Oh. Turn the motor pickle into relish last week I did, and it was delicious, but I grew another one here, check it out. This bad boy has a five hundred CC. Engine that means cucumber calories and. Streamers on the handles. I can see that. What are you waiting for? I haven't built you aside car, okay? Mindy, it's a web in here. Oh, yeah, that's mustard. Shit. Are you sure India won the middle of a forest I. Yeah, it says right here on the coupon located in a tranquil forest down the dirt path past the rock that holds no moss. They couldn't have given a street address. Oh look. There's the rock with no MAS. and. There's the dirt path. This dolphin the right place well, we'll all right. Let's do it all right. You just locked up the motor pickles year. S Go. What what what what? What what? What many getting out to nature was such a great idea. I feel more relaxed already. It to mean there's something about the birds. Running River. The eight bit music. The what the video game music I hear to Mindy. Where's it coming from? Over there. The flow retreat. This is yet the it looks more like an arcade than a dozen meditation retreat. Mindy I'M NOT GONNA. Winner winner ethically sourced eggs. Right right right. Looks like somebody's been eating. Their competing does okay. Wait right here Mindy Ah. Find out if we're actually in the right place. Hi there welcome to the flow retreat. Tokens and lockers are to the right high. Are we at the right place. I thought this was a relaxing street is. A relax ation retreat using the latest in scientific studies to I've seen the ad, but this place looks just like an arcade. Well, that's exactly where the scientific study comes in scientific study. What do you mean it's all explained Sir right here in our introductory pamphlet. Pamphlets I love pamphlets. Skyros Scott Laser tag three times well. It looks like this is actually the place, Mindy. They said it's all explained right here in this pamphlet. Pamphlet. I know hokey. Let's see deer. Guide to relax ation based on the scientific work of Kate's Sweeney a psychologist at the University of California Riverside Psychologist! Do you mean scientists that studies the ways that people think right exactly mindy, so it says here that they use video games to induce a state of mental flow, which in turn helps to reduce levels of anxiety. Oh, yeah, I know a thing or two about. Below really yeah, mental fluids like the mental state of mind that a person gets into when they're fully immersed in whatever they're doing. I mean it's basically just a fancy scientific way of saying being in the zone I get mindy kind of like when you're inventing something. Yeah, or when you're alphabetizing your fancy beam collection, you get into this mental flow and hours can pass by, and you don't even notice and so. This researcher from the University of California found out that you can enter the state of flow by playing video games I guess I mean it sounds like it. What else does it say in that pamphlet? Not much it just goes on to talk about cleaning your shock row with air, hockey and aligning your CCI with table tennis. Well I know. You want to walk around a little bit. Maybe play games heap. It helps you relax well. I couldn't hurt Mindy. Great. What are you? GonNa Play I. IT looks like there's time version to down there and I see a line I smack mall, always promising. Gloves. Can Can we will usually I'd say no, Oh. In the spirit of self, care and relaxation, let's do a mindy. Brennan Right Right. Okay Guy Roz. Stand back and prepare to be amazed because this buttery little claw is out of pickup, the cutest little. Saying typically study. Mindy look all the prizes in this. Game Scientific Studies. Wait a minute. Exploring the benefits of flow during uncertain waiting periods. Many I think that might be. That's Canes Weenie study from the University of California Jack. GotTa. Get that one, Mindy. We need that study who I'm going to get it. Little Buddy put a couple of tokens. Miss bad boy watch. Trading a little to last. For Word Back. On Mindy. Clause opening. Latching. Mindy got it. Scientific. Omitted I. Never doubted you for a second hurry. Let me just get it out of the machine here. What it? How do they find out the playing? Video Games can put you in a state of flow. Okay, so the researchers gathered three hundred and nine college students and told them that their peers would-be rating. How? Good looking our man. That doesn't sound very nice I know, but apparently it's a really effective way to get. People stressed out. I get it, so they didn't really do this. Just said they were going to do this. To get the participants in this study, all stressed out, got it, and then after that the researchers split the three hundred nine college students into three different groups, and each group played Tetris, but at different difficulty levels. Oh! Tetris before that game where you have old, the falling blocks in different shades. You gotTa make straight lines to get points. Yeah, that's right. I was actually the. Leader back in. High School. They used to call me high-rise. Because of all my high scores Ooh, you must have been a pretty popular guy. Anyway they split the group into three difficulties. One of the groups played a super easy peasy version of the game, which as you can guess was Super Boring? And then the next group played in extremely challenging, super-duper fast version of the game, which was just super-duper, frustrating and Ben, the last group played a classic version of the game where it adapts to the skill level of whoever is playing, and as the researchers found out. It got them into that state of flow huck. One was too slow. One was too fast and one was. Just right, that's it, Mindy. Will you know what they should have called this study? What's that Mindy Goldilocks and the falling squares. Nice one. So what did these researchers find out well? It says here that while all the participants experienced some degree of worry, the third group, the one that had the skill level that was gassed right? Yeah, well, they reported higher levels of positive emotions and slightly lower levels of negative emotions, suggesting that the video game that brought on a greater sense of flow, actually lowered their levels of stress Correctomundo Mindy. Wow, but that's not all mindy. The steady goes on to say that this doesn't work for video games. What this doesn't just work for video games that into my good ear. This doesn't just work for video gap. I got it I got it. I got it, so you're saying that as long as it brings us to this data flow that we can do other things to help us to lax. Lax to any activity that brings on a state of flow has the potential to lower anxiety and a help relieve stress, so that means that my inventing and building stuff in your alphabetizing your fans, beings can also be used to put your mind into a state of flow and help you to be less stressed out to. That's exactly right, Mindy. You don't have to use screens at all that. You're in an arcade and we are looking to help you too lax. Did you WANNA hit up that tetris machine in the corner over there or I don't know. How much time do we have? Before Professor Montagu arrives. Professor Montagu professor. Who taught me my. Pace and cues. That professor Montagu the one that's coming over for dinner. Go remind me come on guy. Rossi. Plenty of time well. I can hear the snap moles colony. 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The Evolution of an RIA from Practice to Enterprise
"In the latest episode of Our podcast series for advisors considering the independent space. Today's episode is the evolution of an Ria from practice to enterprise a conversation with Tim. Bello managing partner of Merchant Investment Management. I'm mindy diamond. And this is mindy diamond on independence. Podcast is available on our website. Diamond DASH CONSULTANTS DOT COM and on adviser hub DOT COM as well as apple podcasts and other major podcast platforms if you were not already a subscriber and want to be notified of new show releases. Please subscribe right on your favorite podcast platform or on the episode page on our website. And if you find the content in this series to be useful and no others who could benefit from it. Please feel free to share it. Widely as we record our most recent episodes. It's impossible not to recognize how much the world has changed just over the last couple of months. I'm honored that our guests have taken precious time in what has become an abnormally hectic schedule to share their ideas for navigating the crisis and their thoughts for the future and while everyone fully expect the evolution in the space to accelerate as a result of the crisis. I'm also happy to say that. The resounding tone is one of optimism in talking about change. We often discuss how the independent space has evolved and in particular the burgeoning cottage industry built to support it. Today we find a vast array of services available to advisers who are looking to break away and start their own independent firms plus to host of services available once they've made the leap merchant investment management is one such firm within the space that was built upon a unique value proposition. One that speaks to how much the ecosystem has truly grown as my guest managing partner. Tim Bello describes the firm was designed to help breakaway advisors. Go independent providing a glide path from which they could build their and choose to fly off on their own but to further that mission merchant also works with established wealth management firms serving as a capital partner and taking a non-controlling minority stake with a goal of helping them achieve worth in scale. And it's this ability to serve simultaneously as both capital and strategic growth partner through an end to end continuum of services that makes merchant unique yet. Tim Story is unique in and of itself as an early stage partner at dynasty financial partners or he was in charge of strategic implementation and adviser identification for the dynasty network. He has a unique lens into the RIA space one. That was much less mature than than it is today. So I'm excited for him to share. His experience has informed the growth of merchant as well as get a sense. For how a firm like merchant adds value during times of crisis plus his perspective on the industry as a whole going forward. There's a lot to talk about so let's get to a Tim. I can't thank you enough for joining me today. Thank you so much. It's great to be with you as always tell us a bit about your background. If he would sure at the beginning and I'll give you a quick simple version. I was raised in and around the asset and wealth management space so broad finance background smiling as described this because I started my career at a really right firm. A special place was mentored quite a bit. There firm called the group. The firm doesn't carry its name anymore. It's gone through a couple of events and sales over the past few years but started the premier group and from there went onto a firm that many people have heard of these days called skybridge capital. Actually there is where I was able to create a great business partnership with one of my current partners today Scott Prince so he spent a bunch of time it's skybridge capital running their global platform business and from there I met Shirl Penny and You know got together. With the dynasty. The Dynasty Group would help get dynasty financial corners off the ground and that was a great experience learned a lot. There had a great time and then after five years at dynasty I moved on to start the merchant. And that's where we are today. That's the short version. Indy and I appreciate it. So what is merchant investment management? Well for starters it's really it's a family. It's a bunch of people that have known each other worked with worked for worth against each other for the better part of our careers. Some of US have grown up with each other are significant others or friends. Our children are friends. And it's really just a truly unique environment to operate in every day to work with people that you genuinely care about and so we're very very lucky for that. Structurally speaking the firms private partnership further were operating company which is an important point to make in terms of what we are and in practice where growth partner and we're in optimize your to independent wealth firms. Mindy that's that's what we do for a living every day and I also touched already on the fact that we're such a closely knit team but short again. That's what merchandise the leaders behind the firm. Well it's abroad team. I think we're all leaders That's how we all kind of came together to be happy with one another with that especial group but more specifically you've got Mark Stoker Scott Prince. Rick D'Amico Dave Razek. Brian Staff at brinker John Geller and amid rover. I know that like a long list because it is but each of those folks does contribute a unique component to the business to make what it is today marks background having ran the wealth and asset management businesses Goldman Sachs is obviously very relevant to where we are today. What we're doing. He also was described. Emergent the president of Apollo Global Management. Which is quite the player in the private equity space. You Know Scott Prince. Another one of the firm leaders was actually marks college roommate and they started Goldman together and Scott Scott. Further to me has been like an older brother. A friend a mentor. It is now a partner. So Scott the leaders in business and the RIP D'Amico who I think you know over the past couple of years Heads of our credit operation and Rick and I grew up together so where we go way back with each other. Our parents were friends which just makes it such a special relationship between rick and Dave Marash really really relevant background. I think he's probably one of the most talented structural and legal minds in the space. He was privatised. The General Counsel Focus Financial Brian Staff. Who one time was the president of PK? S This family. Founded the firm in the eighties. Michael Staff is father so Brian I go back together and he. He's on the team. Matt brinker recently came on. You know obviously did a great thing over thirteen years side side-by-side side the united capital and we mentioned John. Geller who helped I think at least right? A big part of the playbook in the independent well space specifically over the tenor of his time he spent the Deli and then my good friend rover who's a CFO who was the CFO dynasty for years prior. That's the team. So it's an all star cast for sure and I WANNA come back to some of the higher specifically Matt brinker but before that bit if you would about the firm's different business lines the work that you do. We really have four business lines. But there's three primary business lines we have our equity business which is called Merchant Wealth Holdings. That business does the minority non-control claburn growth partnerships with firms and simply said we make these durable qualified permit equity investments in independent wealth managers. Those states are sub. Twenty percent stakes. And that's our equity business. The second business we have a lending business call merchant credit partners it to like our equity in holding company like our Equity Business Holding Company our credit businesses and operating company. It's not a fund It's a private credit. So you have non-bank financing coming out of that that group used for the purposes of Ma Adviser Recruiting Working Capital Dividend Recap Succession Planning Likes Bizarre Credit Business Line. And then we have a services business line where we have conviction around certain services companies that are essential parts to the wealth management supply chain. And that's where mindy we have our investments in our partnerships with firms like adviser assists and Compassi of those solutions. Think of all the things that are needed in the chassis of IRA. That's our services. Business in the fourth businesses is more purely a reactive one but it's going to be more and more in essential one given especially what's happened. Markets whereby we're going to be working in the asset management lane of the marketplace with the till Tulsi of towards the alternative s marina. It's just you so important especially now. Mindy right with a with a dislocation fracture. We saw a market for people to really understand what it is. That's available to them. In the asset management of the market specifically the alternative space. Those are four business lines appreciate that. I definitely want to delve into some of those business lines and more about the specific work that you did but I read with great interest when you hired Matt Brinker who is you tell me in charge of Corporate Strategy Equity Partnerships Growth Strategies for your partner firms for the partner firms of merchant. I Know Matt spent thirteen years. Previous joining merchant as the chief business development officer and a major player at United Capital Advisors. So what can we and our listeners? Extrapolate from Matt's higher about the goals for merchants Any insights. He's brought to merchant from his united capital days. You'RE GONNA look at you know it's one of these things mindy in the marketplace. When you think about what you want to be as business when you grow up in we're still early on. Obviously I think I think the whole industry is frankly but with that said you look at somebody like mad look at somebody like daytime. Razek across the industry and I see just how many talented people and if you can have your way you'd you'd be working with all and match a great example that he's somebody that Over Last Ten plus years I've sat on panels with a competed against. I've actually always admired everything that matters dunaway. He's carried himself in and out of board rooms. He's just a real special person And over those years you know competing frankly with each other. We became friends. We early others respect. He won against me more than I want against him. I'm comfortable saying that. And and then and our partners and I think the key word there. There's were partners so to say differently. We didn't hire that We chose each other. It was quite the process with each other. We went back and forth and we ended up bringing into the partnership and into the senior ranks of the company at the Holding Company levels so set of other way. He's a full partner in this business. Just like the rest of us who who started this day which is excellent. And he's by far and away again now that importance. I'm no longer objective on bias. But I think I'm right in saying he's clearly one of the most talented executor's across several lanes in the independent well-spaced most specifically being that of emanating growth once. A firm is situated in stabilized and ready to become acquisitive I. I don't think there's anybody better than that. Bring for doing what he does. And passes proven that so anyway. That's where he sits in the organization data days though to make it more focus for the listeners managed really spending most of his time in. Yeah business identifying who are equity partners will be in the future helping our existing equity partnerships crow And really just centering. A lot of focus around that and growing the companies who are invested with. Which is what method said. I appreciate that and I again want to come back to that equity side about who. You're looking to invest in and who the target firms are. But I want A. Don't ask a couple of things for so. It seems to me that the majority of firms that have been born in the last ten years or so as part of this ecosystem related to the explosion of the space. The breakaway model is that every one of them was looking to solve for a gap or a hole in the industry landscape that they felt they could solve for so with that in mind. What was the gap or the whole that you were looking to south for when you and your partners. Launched Merchant. It's a great question. I talk go back and forth instead a gap or is really just understanding opportunity. I guess they're one of the same. I mean I think I innocence. No knock anything else out there in the industry because everything that's out there today whether it's appear a competitor of merchant their all important and I mean at it's not just as some line that's true the more businesses that are out there that are growing causing effecting change the better for the whole independent wealth movement both revise and clients alike with that said for merchant. You know for us. We really were trying to figure out when we started the business. The best way to create a true alignment of interest. Very hard thing to do right. I mean a lot of times people over I can speak for myself but for merchant. We started if that was what we're trying to software. I think we did a great job of it right. A true landed interest and we can get into the specifics around what that means. In how we address that point one point two wanted to try to find a way to show clear cuts conviction alongside the operated. These companies is really again toughing to accomplish but with some really well thought out steps you can make it happen and I think we've done that making sure that we put more into each of these partnerships than what we take out and there's a lot to unpack and I think in that statement for merchants looking across the industry book into Book and trying to understand how we can build a business that creates a true partnership experience. Where when one put something in they take less out so always putting more to the center of the table for the benefit of the partnership and then also trying to fill a gap or avoid or address the opportunity around building a true collaborative network comprised of all the essential components. That one needs to be alive with to to run a great wealth business. The other thing too is mindy with the industry landscape. And what what we're looking to do. Is We try to figure out a way to build the right metrics into our model that would allow us to figure out who we invest partner with. You look at four things you look at the people in these businesses because we're in the business of people that's one thing that's really important to. How do we align in a fair way? So one thing to create an alignment of interest in other thing to do it in a fair way again. Very toss to do with two parties. And they're looking for the same goal in mind working towards goal. You can do it. How do we value beyond our capital? Another thing that we focus quite a bit on and then lastly does the firm want to. Can they actually grow? So I know. I digress a little bit but I think those are important points when you think through. What merchant was trying to address in the market? And how we decide how we address of. Those four components are key. And that's fair. I appreciate it. Categories he said your equity investors minority investors. Your lenders you offer services by having partnered with firms like advisor Assistant. I WANNA come back to that. In a second and offering now alternatives asset management arm in total in other words. We know that there are plenty of investors in the space. There were plenty of lenders in the space. There were plenty of service providers in the space but in some total who in the industry landscape or ecosystem is most like merchant. Great question are the you. Don't pack the extra in two ways. One is at the team level. The human level right in terms of the executive leadership in these organizations. I would say that there are many firms that have approached the market the same where we have in the sense of putting together a team. Just just call it. What it is. A story is what we do. I think I think we're unique. And I know that it's very generic thing to say and every other I shouldn't would say the same thing about their organizations with us. We have peer groups inch of our four sub units or or groups as you said so on the equity side I would tell you an emigrant is is a really really good. Peer coup is a really good peer. A great respectfully Beck and Charleena team over there also great respect for Carl Hackenberg on team over there at immigrant and there are a few others. Obviously that are that are in the marketplace that people think about when you think of minority or majority equity investing into wealth managers on the credit side. We compete with everybody right. You're in the capital deployment business when you're in the growth fuel business specifically credit space. You've got banks out there. You've got all sorts of options along the lines of what really live. Oak pioneered the beginning in the space for Jason Carroll back in the day so there's lots of competitors mindy and by the way I think that's a very good I agree with you. It's a good thing. But what is then the advantage or disadvantage from your perspective of affirmed choosing to. Let's say sell a minority portion of its equity to merchant. What's the advantage than merchant as a partner where it's kind of all in one place as opposed to going to an equity partner like emigrant a lending partner like live oak a service provider advisor assist if it weren't part of Merchant Cetera? Well I think there's return on time. Second thing is different groups for different essential needs. That actually could speak to one another but again. Sometimes it's different strokes for different folks right. Sometimes people liked all on places. Sometimes people like things coming from separate places and I know again simple concept but it really is a matter of mindy what's best for the consumer and we've intentionally built our firm that way where somebody can get a loan from us for their business in choose knock engages from the equity side or vice versa. Frankly somebody can come to our services businesses and use an adviser assists and actually not our money or take equity capital for most or listen to us or WANNA talk to us about asset management. And so again. We've intentionally built our business this way and I think that bundled or co-mingled role in one place Is One version. Totally distributed in separate is another version. And it's again assist the start. It's really up to the consumer to have that optionality in to consume as they see buster for the business I think as this ecosystem has expanded and there are more options which we agree is a good thing for the ultimate the end user meaning the client and the advisor as client. It all comes down to people who you're most comfortable with you like and if you like the people at merchant and like what. They're all about in their background. You'll buy for merchant and if not you may go elsewhere so. I think that that's fair. We've mentioned adviser assist a couple of times can just take a minute if you want to tell us what it is and I know merchant has invested or owns all or part of adviser assists. So what is adviser assist in? What place does it hold in the ecosystem? Yano for starters. We stay consistent for the most part across everything we do. We're minority non control collaborative in growth minded partners. Chris Win and the rest of team. They are Chris opposite being the founder over to thirteen. Go they are the majority equity does business? We are by designing a distant minority. But we behave like majority partners in the sense of we work hard every day. That business like with all of our partnerships. It's just what we promised to ourselves. And the folks that we get in business with For adviser it's a really great company. I mean I you know learning about the firm Dating back to my days dynasty watching grow and really getting to become friends again. You'll see keeping here. We're we're kind contrary to the fact that. Which is you can't work with your friends. So I had the good fortune of becoming friends with Chris. Win and the folks over there were really earning gaining a lot of respect what he does and how he does it. And how many firms he does it. Four in such a high integrity institutional quality type way. Where he's doing indy upfront business. Set up on a legal side helping these companies get situated helping stabilise helping them really put into practice vision of being independent wealth manager and then equally as important ongoing basis doing ongoing appliance and a lot of outsource work and really just for lack of better terms tightening all the respell mindy on these independent wealth management firms. Because let's face it is. You're a few things that can really put these businesses out of business but compliancy getting trump on your shoes as great ship Mason. Used to say that leg. That's the only thing that can really create a significant problem for Christmas and awesome job of making further. But never in the way this is growing and in doing the suit we talked about. Matt brinker and how he will be spending or is spending the majority of his time identifying new equity partners. So who are your target firms who is the ideal firm that Matt brinker and merchant would be most excited about partnering with the first thing is it's quality over quantity you said it best moment ago in and simply said it's really about the people so the first thing is it's about the art more indeed than it is about the science we get to the signs always seconds of the first thing is a really a really good person? Somebody that you relate with something that you WanNa talk to somebody that you can have a conversation with somebody that you can have over your house again. These are things that are often and unfortunately overlooked in financial services because we're such a science oriented industry around terms that you have revenue in all these things in and by the way things are super important they make this thing go but I. It's finding out who the people are. And honestly as well beyond the boardroom. It's the People. It's not the people in the suit. It's the people twenty four hours a day so understanding who they are. Who's behind the home? That matters to us because keep in mind when you're an equity investment partnership minded shop. Where a lot of the equity is principal capital. Really have to regardless if you should you have to think that way? So that's the first thing is the people the second thing is we have to be realist- around the difference between somebody wanting to grow and somebody being able to grow at wish. I was a fast runner. I'm not but I WANNA to be able to run quickly right. I mean it's kind of funny. But everybody wants to grow for the most part in their own way shape and form and that's a big thing that we got which is what's your vision around growth and unpacking what they're really needs to the operator and then what that might mean to us and by the way whether or not we actually help the operator get to where they wanna go along lines of growth in understanding how growth with regards to organic growth inorganic unpacking the growth story. That's a big part of what we look at. And then there's the there's the frankly to of the business where it makes sense for us to make sense for them and going forward. It feels like to us. You know we're really looking at billion plus mark in terms of assets in that state you can do a lot in the market both defensively as well as offensively at that size. Of course depending upon philosophy of the read the Wave Business. A billion dollars to look a lot differently when it comes to bottom line positions like that next to each other. Broadly speaking. That's really important to us. The other thing is we have to look for and I said this earlier in our in our discussion be half for fair entry points with people. We want to be fair. We want our partners. Our prospective partners to be fair in the way that we think with each other around value every alignment exercise of the bill through. We know that we're always going to spend a little bit more than we wanna spend. But you're gonNA take a little bit less than you WanNa take because we're going into our partnerships with again a long-term permanent durable mindset. Nobody should take advantage of anybody especially on the way in show We really really focused on that. And the other thing is. How do we add value across the board? I think a lot of folks In this part of the assessment a lot of folks will look at it again. Quote Air Quotes. How you financially engineer transaction financially engineer anything. That's a very straightforward structure. We have and I don't think the boy with details of that in this conversation. But how do we value? It's not just with growth. Can we really plug our engine into your car and make it match? That's a much longer again conversation Mindful time but so much we look at to decide who the right firm is for us in. A lot of that is really. Are we right for them? We just have to be frank on that front. It's not about just putting money into the ground at all. Stop Partnership that analogy about putting our engine in your car. It's not only about. Does it match but I guess is it. Do we have the opportunity to make it better and I imagine that the Calculus for an owner operator to begin to think about selling a portion of equity to a partner is the willingness to give up. Total control comes down to how much they believe. You're able to make them better. So maybe let's start with just by way of example. I know that you've invested in a number of high profile are a firm. So can you tell us a little bit? Let's pick one or two of them and about the investments you've made and the work that you do for those firms. Aghia a few names beyond one or two and then we zero in on one or two one percent is off about financial. And I'm kind of going in reverse order of what's most recent the press but summit financial headed up by staying regular another former colleague of mine and very very close personal friends. Ceo's and the financial there in Parsippany New Jersey another one of our mutual friends Mindy Friedman's just join his very senior member of that team so Just just so happy back with Ed. By the way I'm so anyway summit financial is out there and it's one of our firm's in the Partnership Bissett's been hurt a lot less of Austin Texas. Legacy one is a business that it's a really special story. It was the first part. Should be put in place and it's something that the market should you're much more about over the next few months and there's a host of reasons they are so legacy went out there. In Austin Texas headed up by Kevin Lang who founded the business apollon apollon unique business really growing a lot out of South Carolina and we have Paragon San Francisco and then just get him in New Jersey. So I said a few names. There's a bunch more but those those were few that That just come to mind thank you. Let's pick one of them. So you said Legacy. One is a business that people should know about. It's an IRA firm in Austin Texas. You said it's your first partnership so just tell us very quickly what is legacy one one is its value proposition. What what is the work that you do for them? And what I'd really like to hear is. Why did the principle of legacy one choose to sell abortion of equity to merchant Yup so the first thing legacy wine if you look at the business the business actually came up with an IB chassis was set up as independent back in two thousand seventeen? The business has grown more than two since we become partners with Kevin Lang and Jim Ford. Askew and the rest of the operating team in an advisor team there by the way that less core the sentence I think is key operating team in advisor team. That legacy one is a business that we've helped go from one stage the next in its evolution from you know when you think about it you can go from a practice to a business to an enterprise in legacy one feels like it's really getting to that nice middle ground between business on its way to financial services company that eventually enterprise the businesses now at a point whereas looking to become selectively. Acquisitive Mitch got a very substantial stable capital base and more importantly than that exit before an operating team. That's actually deal. Ready in event ready and able to absorb in bring on more advisers and more clients and it has really good processes and systems in place. Which as you know are essential for one to optimize return on time today. All in with a you and everything it's Probably two billion two billion dollar firm. Okay got it and then you know. Look we know that playing in this space that the number one reason why an owner operator principal would choose not to sell it off forget about should the investor merchant or somebody else but just selling it all is that it's anathema to want to give up control. I've built his businesses my baby. I've built it from nothing. It's of me. Why would I want to sell any portion of my cash flow and give up control? So what was it that made Kevin Lang his operating team ready to sell at all? And then why merchant yet look for evidence for others mindy. It's really a matter of I think. Can we do more than we can do? A port and it also has many driven heavily by One's vision and also when you think about the word selling the word line shelling to me into us and recipients of our capital is really when you're going to sell a majority position of fifty percent fifty one percent position when you're aligned with somebody coming into a twenty percent position or below in the firm you still behave if you own hundred percents right only now. You have a lot more help and you have a lot more. Strategic Direction from an objective reported to come healthy again achieve your goals now specifically those goals typically when we make investment Before they center around emanating the ability to pursue that strategy they center around going to get different types perhaps larger more complex clients A and B a larger percentage of one's existing wallet share and then see and we do this a lot of our partnerships as well helping the adviser on behalf the clients navigate the street across fall solution. So helping really the firm behave as if it's a single family office in a multifamily office construct we find ourselves doing that with our partner firms literally on a daily basis in those are just a few of the reasons why legacy one in the others have partnered with us and I mean I guess. It's a heavy left in a long process to be able to make tangible that statement. We're GONNA make you event ready. We're GONNA help you navigate the street. We're going to help you grow in a way you couldn't before we're GONNA sulphur succession. I mean I imagine that there are a whole lot of investors or capital or strategic partners. That would say the same thing. What do you think it is that actually convinced someone I don't mean convince into sales anyway? But how do you go about sort of connecting the dots to make that really feel tangible to someone that you really able to add? Value that someone else can't yeah. That's that's I mean. I was one of the biggest issues when we started the firm that we knew we had to hold true everything we say. I mean you have to be honest with yourself. If you can't deliver something that don't say you can. I back to the people in investing that little disclaimer past performance is not indicative of future results in the game that we play in the business. We're in I think it's the opposite of that. And if you look at the team we can point to each other across the table to somebody. Were contemplating partnership and say we're going to take you through twenty case studies relevant ones real ones tangible ones. That will show you what we do every day. Why we do it how we do it from beginning to end and then the other thing many. That's very helpful to is. We have such an open. Minded set appears in network our ecosystem that we find that you know managing partner. Ceo Principal Whatever. You want to categorize these operators as to each other. They talk a lot so it's very easy to help one. Who's considering partnership with us? Understand what might be like by connecting them openly with their fears situation. Where many we don't even need to really want to be in that conversation. We really want to drive forward peer to peer and if they can live in learn off of each other's experiences and the proof is in the results again. We've been doing this now for going on a few years and the results on the gross side have have spoken for themselves. So it's We're very fortunate that said because we're just a few rain. We don't have a massive team. That's by design. We really have to be selective about the partnerships. We engage him because we never want to have too much for any for that matter. Gap BETWEEN WILL BE SAVED. We can do and what we can actually deliver and the biggest issue. That mindy is your time France our most valuable asset. And we don't have a lot of it so that's another big thing that we think about in. Oh by the way as we grow the firm will continue as we've shown with with Matt coming on board and with some are taking on it free and we will continue to bring on exceptional people to make sure that our bandwidth issue a never get stretched to for and of these firms. Whether it'd be the four you mentioned or any of the other partner firms you've invested in. How were they fairing during this crisis? I guess how are they fairing in general? And how is merchant adding value in general? They're doing well in general they're doing well and through this crisis they've done on a relative basis very well. Actually some of the businesses quietly have made acquisitions during this period of time which may surprise some folks but again. The market's been quietly still active right if you look at what's been going on deals or partnerships that are being put in place so we're they're out there. They're working quite well. We're not seeing too significant of an acid dropping. By the way I think if you look at where where the market is today at this exact time. Actually I'm sorry it's up Equities report over two percent. But you look to one year number mindy on the equity markets were flat so relative basis. These firms are doing very well And I I really feel like from what I've see with our Braun pipeline again. I have like for my seat. I could see across all eighteen partnerships in the west side and in the three or four service firms. I mean we've twenty five businesses in our ecosystem. I don't think people realize that you have that much going on In the Goes on a daily basis. Mindy Digress for a minute we cut over a thousand firms between our credit business equity business and are Serbs partnerships. We touch a lot of firms. A lot of operators tons of households directly indirectly. And what I can tell you. From that perspective. From that viewpoint the firms are doing well ones were invested in. We'RE NOT INVESTED IN WEALTH. Management is a great business to be in in. It's one of the things mindy that we would all agree outside of financial services if we take our hats off for a second look in from the outside wealth managers are needed for all different types of families and people. These businesses are going to survive and do well. They're gonNA grow off the back of this because they are an essential service to indeed. I couldn't agree with you more. You had a bird's eye view having been an early stage partner at dynasty financial partners and I guess one of the things I think about is that firms like dynasty who around a decade ago came on the scene to be really a major player in this ecosystem in from where I sit really enabling breakaway advisors to do it into do it well because before dynasty came along there were two major. Things that prevented would be breakaways. Wirehouse advisors or advisors that were employees brokerage firms. Going independent one was turnkey way to get there. The simplicity felt like too much of a heavy lift and to was access to capital these people that were walking away from uninvested for trump and the notion of moving without deal. Money was anathema. So what do you think? Dynasty success in the past decade says about the dialysis were of advisors who have and are continuing to break away from the wirehouse world. So I guess I'm shifting to the industry as a whole through and what do you think dynasties role was in? Fostering that growth. And what do you think it's GonNa look like going forward Oregon bias right. I was there on day. One and I had the good fortune to sitting next to Cheryl Penny in todd and had Swenson in that team watching everything come develop on the back of a Napkin and then on a whiteboard and then in the office that we releasing their in midtown. So the first thing I would tell you. Dynasties a pioneer in the independent space. You have to commend them day. I'm speaking outsider. They've really blazed path for people to open companies and to have confidence confidence. Is The key word here confidence around what it is they can do versus what it is. They're afraid of. I mean let's just cut to it. There was a lot of fear before firms like dynasty in the space around the unknown of what it really meant to be independent and businesses back in December. Two thousand ten and we were like it was yesterday at that point. I feel like there was an opening of transparency less dark corners more knowns which in turn create more confidence so so what that did is it helped catalyze further the movement of people running fully towards something. I think it helped in his help. More and more each year mindy with firms like dynasty with merchant other businesses in this face. It's helped advisors who want to build their own companies realize. This isn't about me running from a bank or a wirehouse. The bank is not bad. This is about me running towards my next endgame my future my legacy right might vision. That's where the businesses going today. And I think if you see where it is it's just getting stronger. Momentum is picking up. We hit little speed bumps or big potholes like this most recent one but all these companies mindy in. I'm not preaching. I'm just stating what I see. They're built to address. These firms are built to last. They're centered around people that run them in their centered around. The families rely on them and none of those things are going anywhere. Do you think if any are the biggest issues that the are a principles or a space will need to solve for now and into the future whether it be as a result of this covid crisis or anything else. I honestly don't know that the issues are changing much from this point forward including covert right. You've got the need to optimize return on time. You've got the need to ensure case in point today more than ever though that you are durable business. Sometimes that's capitol related sometimes. It's not cap related. Sometimes it's outside partner needed. Sometimes it's just internal you've got off the back of that the need for succession. It's unbelievable still to this day. I feel like too many people in this is this is actually a big issue. I feel like too many advisors don't plan for succession until it's too late or almost too late. So that's a big piece of the industry. The just seems to be talked about a lot but not put into practice a lot to me. That's not a problem but it's an issue that has to certainly get more attention than than growth is always one. The People WanNA talk about but unpacking. What growth means for principals for operators for advisors in these organizations? It's you want to grow do you grow. What's the best way to grow and at the end of the day? What's definition for your firm of responsible growth? How do you achieve responsible growth? It's not about how many you can do how many acquisitions you can make clients. You can onboard because the minute you make a mistake and you bring the wrong component into your home. Meaning your firm. It's very hard to take three more steps back to go back to where you were before you got. I think what I'm really trying to say India's as these firms grow really all the firms merch included we. Have we think everyday about what can be done to us? Way Ahead of what can be done for us in. Sometimes you defined by more what you don't do and who you don't work with clients you don't take on relatives. The ones that you do. And so being contrarian in that ways I think really important as these principles navigate business ownership on their own. I think that that's absolutely right. And so if we focus a minute on 'em you mentioned the term before event ready is said we help firms under our umbrella to become event. Ready you talked about that with respect to legacy one becoming an operating team. That is event ready. So what does that term mean? And how do you do that? I mean how do you make a firm that isn't necessarily event ready on their own? Become event ready event. Ready is defined in two ways is defined art and sciences define culture and and actually integration right in practice thereafter relates to investing in all sorts of things but the first thing to decide that ready as issue from culturally ready to have an event and by the way the events can be a whole mixture of of scenarios right. It can be taking on a rewind for a second it could be taken on an outside investor a shortage of partner it could be acquiring adviser with capital or without capital it could be internal buy from G TWO INTO G to equity from Jiwan. So there's all sorts of different events. The first thing is this side of your event ready by deciding what it is. You're looking to do in terms of that so nowhere you really are is the first thing. The second thing is making sure that you're financially sound and also making sure that when you do have something that's in front of you can actually execute off the back of. What is your discussing. I feel like very often whether it's in financial services wealth management the business lines. Many people have great vision but the business plan isn't worth the piece of paper it's written unless you can execute it so all to often advisors together and we see often right they get together. They have a great idea. They like each other than it gets time to figure out how to bring it to one and just can't get past that point that's because one of the businesses is not event. Ready and event. Ready beyond the financials could also be with us. I got a two yard line and I don't like the way heels. I don't want to step into the end zone. So also the siding before you spend all that time my point is your event ready when you can get to the crux of the issue right alligators. Time is valuable. And what are the kinds of things that merchant either has done for their partner firms to make them event ready or if you're speaking to one of our listeners that wondering gmi event ready has one or can one make themselves event ready. It goes into a couple of pods lanes but your systems are they built for scale. Your structure is optimized your story in the market does have differentiation to it will resonate with advisors and clients alike in. Then how do you structure these in some cases in these these transactions? How do you think about all that once? You have that playbook figure it out then you can really go out and systematically figure out how to move forward with event. It's pretty simple mindy. But but again when you think about it for businesses that are running the day-to-day this typically gets passed to the back end of the priority list much like succession. It's like paying your bills right. Everybody kind of gets you today. The market opens the market closes. They do to client calls and then at seven o'clock eight o'clock at night they go off I to acquire a firm. Oh I wanNA take outside partner which you think you can get done in six months actually into taking five years because you never make it a priority so maybe the first thing is if you want do it make it a priority and do it. Strategically is what you're talking about. But the other thing from where I sit which actually makes us laugh. Is the firms that you know. Everybody wants to be a buyer so everyone agrees with you. Wealth management is an awesome business to invest in for a whole lot of reasons and as such the natural evolution of an. Ira firm is okay. I I started the firm. I've successfully built the firm and now the next step should be to become a buyer. So I guess my next question is hell can affirm determine if it should be a buyer or a seller? Well I mean mini the first thing with with whether or not going to be a buyer seller is as we said just a moment ago. Are you ready for either or ready? For an event a seller is somebody. Plainly said who feels like they have reached the peak of their growth trajectory often. Now listen there's different reasons to sell so if you're looking for a full takeout. Maybe the founder of the businesses. Just done working today and they wanna put themselves vice chairman chairman role in exit very the reason to be a seller now. The question is for the buyer in that case has the seller thought through in a clear way there succession plan because there has to be durability what it is the buyers acquiring right if the client isn't gonNA stick around because the adviser who was covering those leading and there's no succession planets preset five six seven years in place will then. What is there to buy? So there's a lot to put into the learnings there in as to whether or not one can proceed as a seller in what the buyer should look at a liquor buyers ready as a by her when they realize that they want to diversify their pets of growth so a lot of businesses focus just on organic growth right getting more wallet share going up market going up in terms of complexity of client. But when you start to think about running this organization as businesses and enterprise diversify your revenue streams when you get to. That point is really really only one way to do that. A. Nats through becoming acquisitive. The next component of of moving to actual action along those lines is having somebody see from the outside. I think really whether or not you're businesses built to take on Capitol to incur leverage and to go. Buy something else if you just put it in big picture format for a second. The business has to also be the right size to buy something else all too often. You hear of a business in this is no knock on size. One hundred million dollar firm trying to acquire a five for dollar business. It's doable but it's it's a lot easier if you're a billion dollar for buying one it's two fifty or five hundred and there's a whole list of things mindy to go through. That would help either side figure out if the timing is right and what the right path orders to execute off the back of that. Do you think that this corona crisis this unprecedented global health and financial crisis will impact emanate and valuations? Will it impact? The way merchant will think about valuing firms. We're can impact everything. The question is in what way so two things come to mind? One is at the end of the last crisis we saw. I forget the exact statistics brinker would be the right one. Actually but I think at the end of two thousand eight. We saw significant spiking volume both through outside investing into firms. Also just generally speaking emanate and then as it relates to merchant from the way we do things the way we invest in no way shape or form. Does this crisis put us in a position to be more excited about being opportunistic along the lines the plan our capital. I have no interest in trying to understand how to minimize value. Firm based upon downdraft at the end of the first quarter no interest in. It won't do it. It's not how we do business that said across the industry. Obviously you would see some sort of a reset here. I'm seeing it. We're seeing already generally speaking in terms of multiples. I do think that they're coming into a more realistic level. Maybe by one or two terms but not drastically so maybe if affirmative trading for twelve. It'll trade for ten maybe a former trade-in pretend trade for eight. But again you're not seeing this massive crammed down of value in this massive compressor decrease in multiple. I think it's look again before the markets have slowly come back who knows where they'll be next month one quarter from today where next year but as it stands today these businesses are still doing a nice job and I don't think that they as operators should suffer too much as it relates to enterprise value off the back to this. I agree and we've spoken with a number of valuation experts through this and I think that they all sort of see it the same way the right firms built the right way will really hold their value. How about succession planning so? What's your point of view on crafting an internal succession plan versus selling to an outside buyer? I'M GONNA START INSIDE I for sure. And see if you can accomplish it internally. I think are very good way to do that. Dependent upon how much equity has to exchange hands and go to do that is through a credit or lending provider. Who can actually help you. Think through the structural components of electoral do with the money. And how you'll sell to succession now. That said and I'll speak just from personal experience now when I look at some of our partner firms win a succession not targeted opportunity presents itself and a business has several owners and is looking to for example at the primary owner side of things are level. Sell down a significant stake in the business. A firm like ours director through one of our hubs Porta firms comes can come in you do a equity investment from the outside and then subsequently finance the internal buyers to buy down the rest of the remaining capital that the initial founder is looking for part with so at several transactions within one that can be authored crafted and customized for ask you one final question because your perspective is so fascinating because you've got such a lens a wide lens into the breakaway market into the mind of a smaller farms looking to grow into the evolution of the practice. As you say from a practice to a business enterprise but from your perspective. What do you think the next big thing is for the industry at large? I think my answer is going to be a boring one but I think maybe the right one. I think you're GONNA see a lot more of these firms in order view each other this way regardless. But it'll be more apparent I think over the next over many years much. Less competitors and much more peers and collaborative partners of the you start to see more and more businesses come together not the form. Exactly what Joe in math built with the united capital but but of that size of that scope of scale of complexity type because at the end of the day. Nobody likes to be on an island. Even if it's an island has good food and good weather eventually you to go see other people. And I think you're GONNA see the industry come back together more and more build bigger things better things alongside each other and I think it will make for better outcomes across the board in the theme there is more more capital more technology more innovation and more collaboration across the board and do think that someone who is an employee right now at Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley. Ubs are any traditional brokerage firm. What would you say to them about the independence space bullish? Bearish what would you say? Oh the the independence base and again if you're listening. I'm not objective. But what I can tell you as an investor personally in the space in operator in the space and somebody who's learned a lot in the space. This space is incredibly mature. It's incredibly safe. It's incredibly well thought out in. It's tremendously capitalized in some of the institutions that support this the largest most durable institutions across financial services. And we're seeing that increases more and more every day. Publicly traded businesses are changing their business models to accommodate in many different ways. This independent movement in this movement for a long time hasn't been just an adviser movements been client movement to and the of the space is is nothing short of astounding. And I think the growth will be nothing short of exponential moving forward. I tend to agree with you. Tim I can't thank you enough for your time for your expertise for your generosity of thought. We wish merchant. Well excited to see more of what you're doing and Hope you'll come back again. You're the best thank you. I'm grateful for Tim's perspective on the space and evolution that he helped architect from early stage partner of dynasty to founder and managing partner of Merchant Investment Management. Tim shared keen insights into the future. And what he sees as the value of growth partner in a life cycle. 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"Hey, byles fans before we start the show. I've got two quick things. Number one are upcoming. Wow. The world pop up parties in both Boston and Denver have sold out at lightning speed. So we added another show to each city. Tickets can be found at tinker cast dot com slash events. Also, if you haven't heard our spring and summer tour is up, and here's where we'll be Nashville Tennessee on may eighteenth, Boston Massachusetts on June second, Chicago, Illinois on July six and Denver Colorado on July fourteenth tickets to all of these shows are going fast. So be sure to snag your seats before they're gone for more info on the what where and when of the, wow when the world bought the party grownups, just visit tinker cast dot com slash events. That's tinker cast dot com slash events. That's it. And now. Let's get on with a brand new episode of. Wow. In the world. This is insane. Sure. He might be a simple blue-collar oil drilling. Every man from nineteen ninety eight but Doug gun at. He's the best chance. We've got for blowing up this asteroid, and avoiding Armageddon we have approval from the president ser. So Bruce, what do you say? In the. Say to say in my family. Over here. You are. What? Trying to see this. Sorry. Can you? Janin's thinking thing. Can you give me a little? All right, buddy. Got knocked. I got popcorn I got fish tacos, which one can you please little quieter there. The final number of first act. Sorry. What did I meant? Well, we're about to find out whether Bruce will leave his daughter to go blow up the asteroid headed for still can't believe you've got tickets to Armageddon the musical. Reggie. That's what happens when you're kuzma's. Lin-manuel Miranda's pet keys. Josh. Watch. Will bruce. What's it gonna be? Six. Intermission McGinn the musical. Please be sure to visit our concessions for asteroid popcorn balls. The size of Texas. What a first act Mindy. I have chills here. Put on my sweater. Okay. Reg, meek, you out there ones in a hurry to use the little pigeons room. I can't wait to see what the rock does is the asteroid act to me neither I keep hearing these dynamite in this Vetere minds me Mendy who's actually playing the role of the dynamize. I can't remember who's playing the role of the dynamite. Be no what I picked up one of those little programs when I was out in the lobby. Look it up here. Is covered in Bader. Not what do you call this? Not joking. The same color is butter here. I'll lick it off. Okay. Let's see here. Him minute. So cool. What's so cool? It says right here Mindy that a special branch of NASA called planetary defence coordination. We're actually brought on board to help write this musical planet. Terry defense. That's right. It says right here that it's a special branch of NASA. The government space agency that keeps an eye on the night sky for any asteroids that might be headed our way. So there's sort of like those government agents in the musical. You know, the ones that went out to BRUCE'S ranch to ask him to join the mission to blow up the asteroid sort of Mindy. It says they track any asteroids that come within thirty million miles of earth in just to be clear. Asteroid are those big old hunk of rock floating out there in space. Right. That's right. It also says that if it should ever come to it. They would lead a team of astronauts to help steer any incoming. Asteroids away from earth. Wow. That is literally a big job. But. But what Garros kind of think planetary defense would approve of Bruce from the musical smash bang boom approach to stopping that asteroid. Why is that? Okay. So I just finished reading this brand new scientific study by Charles Elmer from John Hopkins University. And the study shows that smashing apart and asteroid that's heading towards earth is about as pointless as a pigeon infra JAMA's. What do you mean? Well, Deraz I could L U. Or you could show me. Finally agree. But Mindy the second act of the musical is gonna start at any moment. Now, we have a mostly functional time traveling. Wow, machine that's parked right outside back before we even left camman tr- about to the asteroid belt say what do I say? What do I say, I say? Okay. Let me just get the ballet to bring the machine around one. What? Gary still waiting on that peel p fifty and who's bringing around the amfar. No, excuse me. Yes. I was wondering if you could bring my wow machine around. Sure, what's it look like it's the one with the broken pirate ship door and the red racing stripes. I'm sorry. You're gonna have to be more specific. We've got a loud awhile machine here today, ma'am. Oh, okay. Well, it's leaking men as and smells like a combo of baby powder and hot dog water. Oh, yes. I know the one you're right back. There we go. Sorry, for the way. I couldn't remember where I put it. Tell me about it. That happens to me all the time one time. I thought I left it in the paleolithic era in that. I couldn't find it anywhere. And next thing. I know I ended up finding it all the way in the less to seen air. Well, you three have a good night. Okay. Up on it. Okay. Okay. Let's see here. Blinds are down trade tables are up punching coordinates asteroid belts. Hey, you ready? Many get because here we go. Never gets old her. Eras. Right. Reggie doing. Okay. There buddy. Guy Roz Reggie I would like to take this opportunity to welcome you to the. Over two hundred million miles away from earth and home to two billion tons of floating space rock any of which could be knocked off course by something as innocent and unassuming as say don't know, maybe a little old time traveling wow machine. One of the hour you doing? Giving one of these giant asteroids? Towards what don't worry guy Roz takes at least two hundred twenty days for an asteroid to travel all the way from the asteroid belt earth. But but Mindy guy Ron's do you? Trust me. Okay. That is not the answer. I was looking for. But guy rise Reggie pulled onto your tail feathers because this asteroid has a date with planet earth. Was that is just a little ho came in. But how do we stop this asteroid from crashing into earth? Oh, are we going to blow it up like they didn't Armageddon the musical? I say. No. Van how well remember that part of NASA that was mentioned in the musicals program earlier planetary defense. So planetary defense has lots of different plans were stopping asteroids that are on course for earth. And one of those plans is to take small but heavy space craft. I am it into the side of the asteroid. Smashing into lots of teeny tiny harmless. The re. And by smithereens. I mean pieces, well, it's not exactly as exciting as a gigantic outer space explosion. But hey, if it works it works. That's the thing guy. Roz what it doesn't work? It doesn't work. Could have fixed that meddle in here when middle what do you mean, it doesn't work? Okay. So remember that scientific study I was telling you about earlier the one by Charles L MIR from Johns Hopkins University, that's Charles L MIR and his team of researchers were able to test how effective this method of destroying an incoming asteroids would be by simulating it or modeling it on a computer. So he was able to use information about asteroids impacts to predict what would happen if you slammed a spacecraft into the side of an asteroid eggs, actor Reto Skyros. And what did he find will? That's what we're here to find out. What I didn't bring you on. Reggie all the way out here to the asteroid belt just to tell you about a scientific study. Didn't. You about nine typic- study show me. Okay. Let's see here in this feeling shin. They used a fifteen point five mile wide asteroid. The teen point five miles Mindy. This asteroid is a quarter of the size of Washington DC yet. And then they slammed a four thousand foot projectile into the side of the asteroid to crack the case of whether this form of asteroid assassination would work in reality. And what did they find Mindy will want you grab that little trick out bike pump over there and find out by pump Mideast that my bike pump. The couple of upgrades. Check it out. Give it a couple of pumps. Okay. Hendy many. What was that? Of the wow machine is expanding. Cairo's? Turn your bike pump into an X Bando pump and expand pump. Yeah. It makes the wow machine bigger. Check it out outside. Okay. Hey, the asteroid seems to have gotten smaller. But in reality, we've just gotten bigger. So why do we need to make the wow machine so much bigger? Well to show you I'm going to recreate the simulation or the model the same way that those researchers at John Hopkins University in now let me see here. The tile in the simulation was four thousand feet tall. And the while machine is only about ten feet tall. Let's go ahead and make the wow machine about four hundred times bigger move over pal. Zang that you're gonna slam the wow machine into the side of this asteroid in order to smash into smithereens. That's what I'm saying guy. Ron what don't worry the wow machine is made out of reinforced aluminum cited carp board. Maybe maybe I don't know about this. Right. That makes two of us. Reggie Ghairat strap yourself thin still don't have seatbelts in here. Mindy? Railing over there this railing of candy canes, here we. Everything's fine. Hit the asteroid. It's broken up into lots and lots of tiny tiny pieces. What once looked like a giant piece of rock is now just millions and billions of harmless little pieces, but many I thought you said this wouldn't work. Oh, yeah. Well, not so fast guy, Roz you see that big old chunk of rock that still intact over there. Yeah. Well, that's the core of the asteroid. If this simulation is anything to go by let me just hit this button here. Nope. That's for the cat flap just need to push the fast forward button here. It is. It looks as though all of those smaller pieces of asteroids are heading back towards the core of the asteroid. Millais shen. It's as the core of the asteroid his in all of the smaller pieces that just got off of it Humpty Dumpty. Putting himself back to gather again in Cairo's. This is all because of the gravitational poll and a gravitational pull is the invisible force that heavy objects in space used to suck. Smaller objects in you know, at garage, and these researchers were able to show that these big asteroid's gravitational poll gave the asteroids the ability to pull themselves back together again when they were smashed by a heavy spacecraft. Right. So let me get this straight the space crabbing smashes into the side of the asteroid bursting until lots of little pieces, but the leftover asteroid core is still big enough to pull back in. All of those little pieces because of its gravitational. Yep. Sucked him right up and put it back together again. Okay. But many I still have one more ceiling seat. Little concern guy. Roz we are in eight partly functional aluminum coated cardboard well machine in the middle of the asteroid belt. What do you possibly have to be concerned about? Still an asteroid headed towards planet earth. Okay. Can't those and out of your pants in home down as usual. I've got everything out of control. What's also have a plane do. No. But ASA does it does. Yeah. So you know, how I said that NASA has a bunch of different plans to redirect asteroids that are on a crash course with earth. Well, I thought that maybe we could take another plan out of their playbook here. Masses. Planetary defense playbook. Okay. Let's see here noon. How about this one Mindy crafty tractor being tractor beam like the us in science fiction movies? Exactly it says here that it's one of the most promising plans to re direct an asteroid that's heading towards earth. To me. It says here that if you can get a large enough object next to the asteroid the object's gravitational field should be able to pull the asteroid towards it. And over time change its path change its path way from earth. Exactly just like how the asteroid's core or center was able to pull in all those smashed bits of asteroid. Let me just make sure I've got this straight. So you're saying that a large object next to the asteroid could use its gravitational poll to full the asteroid away from earth, coal, rectum Mondo. If only we had a large enough object guy. Yeah. Forgetting something. At what f? Of course, the expand pump many, that's brilliant. If we keep expanding the wow machine, we might be able to make it big enough for its gravitational field to pull this asteroid out of the way of earth. That's the plan. Now, you wanna give me a hand here? Sure thing Mindy. And. Take a look at the asteroid. Dow it looks about ten times smaller than it was before. But again, it's just that we hear in the wow machine have gotten bigger, right? Okay. All we need to do is get close enough to the asteroid for it to get caught in our gravitational field. Let me just grab the during wheel. Here. Mindy is that steering wheel from pirate ship? What? Now get that. Does it? Shouldn't be lows enough. Now, what do we do Mindy now slowly drag this big old hunker Brock out of harm's way? Faye? How long does this usually take Mindy? Couple of months a couple of months. Yeah. Are gravitational poll, isn't that strong? But over a long enough period of time, we should be able to drag this thing out of the way. Many can we just use the fast forward button again? Always forget about that thing old tight. You look Mindy. It's working that asteroids gonna miss earth pile longshot. Oh, yeah. Didn't doubt it I second. So do you think we can head back to the theater now? I know it may not be completely scientifically accurate, but I heard the final dance number Armageddon. The musical is out of this world. See would you did their guy Roz out of this world are right? Let's get ready to head on back. Locking in the coordinates here. We. Nice landing Mindy. Those giant, bouncy? Castles, you attached to the front bumper really helps to soften the landing buddy. Let's get outta here. Opening. The you'll landed us in the middle of the stage during the final number. The. What do we do? Now. Rain just smile. Everyone. Well, the will be right that grownups. This message is for you support for this podcast and the following message. Come from the Walton family foundation where opportunity takes route more information is available at Walton family foundation dot org. If you love this show, then checkout life get tools to help you get it together. 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Back-To-School: Recess 101
"Yeah. Guy arise. What are you? Just just bouncing ball. I can see that. But what are you doing just mountains ball here that could you if you wanted to come over to pump water balloons with our armpits said you had scientific research to do. And this does not look scientific to me. Oh, Well, I I am doing scientific research. So I guess you're gonna tell me that you're doing a physics experiment on acceleration in Baloch by. Well, actually, no, I was just bouncing this ball. And I guess you're going to tell me that you're measuring exceleron action based on earth's gravity at nine point eight meters per second per second. Well, yes, I guess I could plot this founding ball on a graph according to earth's gravitational forces. But really, I promised shis bouncing this ball Roz. You said you couldn't come over to crack. Water balloons with me because you were too busy doing scientific research about brain cognition, and this not looked like scientific research to me. Oh, I am Indy. Why I'm taking a break. Guy rose earlier today, you said you couldn't hang out with me because you were so busy studying how the human brain takes an information keeps it insider praying and Balaa was but after a while I just couldn't concentrate anymore. You know, in fact, many I couldn't even understand what I was leading anymore. Yes. That part is because I accidentally changed the language on your computer to Portuguese. And then I couldn't read the instructions on how to change it back because I don't speak Portuguese. So that is what that's all about any who. So you decided to take a much needed break. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually starting to feel a little refreshed. Have you noticed that when you're reading or working on math problems for a long time you start to get a little fidgety? Not even the car tire that I use for a visit spinner works and don't you just want to jump up and down and around and maybe play make believe or just daydream. All of those things guy Roz got kicked out of the nail salon last out spying on. No, why you're talking about is exactly. The kind of stuff I need to do when I've been concentrating for a long time, then like three hours. So I get out there. Get out, you know, world fats. Just it Mindy you need to recharge to re energize to regroup because it's hard to sit still for such a long time. Oh, yeah. Which is why my favorite time of day is. Yes. Yes. He says is one of my favorite parts of the date to it actually makes us smarter. And better learner guy rise George telling me that running around a big open field like a bunch of screaming. Laughing wild maniacs is actually making us martyr. Yes. Mindy Mindy over the past few years? A lot of schools in America have shortened their recess times. Because kids are learning a lot more things in school today. Which is great big. But it means that we have to. Him so much. Time into one little school day that we have of less time. Exactly. And while that might seem like a good idea, you know, less recess more time for math and reading and spelling and geography and art and history and science. It also means less time for just running around on the playground. Still not entirely clear on how running around playground makes us smarter. Will here's the amazing thing? Mindy researchers known as Caniggia Logist or scientists who studied the movement of humans and animals will they've been studying this very question. You mean what the connection is between moving our bodies in learning stuff? Yes. And you know, what they've been discovering what well even finding more and more evidence or facts and clues that have led them to conclude that recess time as Bessul for kids makes it a lot easier for kids to learn in classrooms, right news. How do they figure this out? There's one particular kinesiology in Texas named Debbie Ray. And she's looked at schools were kids have more recess time than kids at other schools. Where well a good example is the country of Finland. Country. That's all the way up at the top of Europe and sandwiched right in between Russia, and so we'd -an that Finland. So if you look at a map, you can see Norway would just sort of like a giant spoon and next to it is Sweden and then Finland. So what did she find? In Finland will Finland is one of the countries in the world where kids tend to score really really high on international tests tests that kids in countries all around the world take to see how much they're learning trysted. So do we know the secret as to why kids in Finland or scoring so high well, there are a number of hypotheses based on some scientific evidence. And those hypotheses include things like really really well paid teachers for starters. I like the sound of well paid teachers Geyer is. Okay. Teachers. Aren't. Time out everyone. But there's another hypothesis, and it has to do with recess and break times so do kids in Finland get a lot of recess Mindy kids in Finland on average get fifteen minutes of recess every forty five minutes, and that means that in an average day kids in Midland can get about one hour and thirty minutes of recess. Wait a minute Geyer. Is it sounds to me like you're describing? Well. Yet, your snow Medio burn where. Finland do science. Well, I am not sure we can just show up. I mean, we should probably notify people in Finland that were coming back. I'm about lime the monkey bars and Finland Reggie. Don't forget to pack. My junk. I'm not sure now is the time to actually fly to hold onto your hands. Because we're about to hit the first liking Kenton week fast. Mike can't just brushing up my finish as we speak seat right here on page, one seventy two the word for playground in Finnish is liking Kenta. Well, well, I think actually most Finns speak pretty good English. We're going to need some cabin. Jyrki next Helsinki. Do you think this is really a good idea? I rise. We're flying a carrier pigeon to Finland of course. This is not a good idea ready here. We. Got those ice gains Reggie talents. Never knew knows. We're gonna come in handy. Much on the ground over here. I should've ordered some of those customs skates for my posterior, Jerry. You're you mean, you're. Glued is Maximus. Your. What about your? Yes. Yes. Yes. Been the I didn't ask for a human the Sorus. But. Poop, but Duncan dunk. Why what? Well, you better hop off your caboose, Mr. because we have arrived in the capital of Finland and time wasting defined a school. Okay. But where are we going to find a? Oh. Well. How holies his Mindy? They're playing outside in the middle of this cold weather, and no one seems to mind the cold. Of course, they don't I rise. It's time. You know, it doesn't look all that different from recess in America. Many just a bunch of kids playing on the monkey bars and running around blowing off some Steve speaking steam get us hot muggy hot cocoa right now. No many. This is exactly what a lot of researchers have observed kids running around in snow suits on Helsinki playground. Yes. Because they wanted to see if kids in Finland concentrate better than kids in other countries with less recess. What did they will? They found that in schools for kids have more time for free play, you know, to explore the playground to run around to daydream the actually focused better when they got back to class. Yeah. They had some time to get their Yahoo is out clear the rains, all in fact, two years ago a few schools in Texas, including equal mountain elementary school in four worth started. To give kids more breaks more time for recess. Doing in Midland guy. Roz? Well, reggie. Spurs. Well, we don't really need to go to Texas me. We can just right up our notes back at the lab at at my house. Change of plans. We're heading back to the lab. Hype on Geyer is better strip in because. Working with Reggie on softer landings tried it Reggie was to over schedule. I mean between Spanish lessons tests club and taekwondo and swimming and Chilean barely even had time to just stop and smell the roses in anyway. I don't even think colleges look at all that extracurricular stuff anyways. So it's really meant that you had rich taekwondo, we tried it all taekwondo karate. But let me tell you this pigeon. Couldn't even do the rain, and he never really got into that whole wax on wax off things. Yeah. Okay. Well, what will anyway now that we're back in the lab. Let me compare our observations from that school in Helsinki with a study that was done by the American Academy of pediatrics he mean that St. GIS group of doctors that looks after kids. Yep. Pediatricians and the. And the academy of pediatrics does lots of research on things that are helpful for kids like giving them more recess. Yes. In fact, many in a study published by the academy, the pediatricians wrote that recess time is crucial for kids, and that it provides cognitive emotional social and physical benefits hot knitted benefit. Yes. So good for the brain and good for learning and emotional benefits. Yeah. Good at helping kids. Stay happy and grounded in social benefit. Yeah. Good at helping kids. Learn how to get along with other kids. Okay. Got it. And you also said physical benefit. Yup. Good at helping kids. Stay healthy and strong. That sounds like an open and shut case Sherlock. And which really cool is that other schools in Texas are watching eagle mountain elementary school to see the effects of more recess on the kids. Well. While you were taking notes in Finland. I put together the perfect plan for school here, take let's see here. Bill rings recess snack. Then platinum discussion on the science of recess and some more recess than a Matt study on the average time it takes to get from the classroom to the ground, then another recess break them lunch. Mindy? I'm I'm not sure the American Academy of pediatrics white had this in mind. Well, I just thought I would make some of my own scientific recommendations. Well, this sounds like like a plan come on. Let's get some hot cocoa towns. But first let me just Coleraine kick this bouncy ball into Mr. Mia backyard. What? In the world will be right back. Grownups. This message is for you. Support for this podcast comes from the William T grant foundation at W T. Grant foundation dot org. Support also comes from the Condado fund, supporting individual dignity and sustainable communities through investments in transformative leaders, and ideas. Learn more at K E N D E D A fund dot org. Hey, it's muddy ain't wholesome host of NPR's. Let the USA the podcasts that takes you inside the Latino conversation each week. We'll take you into one story that will fascinate an often surprise you. Listen to let USA on the NPR one app or wherever you isn't a podcasts. That's to the show. Hi, what's your name? Hi felix. And I'm ten years old Felix. We just learned that recess is really important for kids to be able to learn do you agree with that. Well, first of all school does TQ pretty cool things like. Fractions and stuff like that fractions or the coolest. Yeah. We just learn them to Felix if recess is so good for kids. Do you think recess would also be good for prone ups? Yes. What if you were in charge of teaching recess to grownups Kevin break, stretching your legs, maybe going to get some one? Sure mcshea for Mindanao. And what if they had a field just like at school, and they had to go outside and play in it together would have soccer teams football teams or banana tech. I don't know what's banana tag the game. Like, everyone's it. But wait a minute if everyone's it then who's doing the twos being tacked, everyone should if people tag each other at the same time than you have to Rochambeau. What's that rock, paper, scissors? Who do you think would be better at recess kids or grownups probably kids? How do you be a kid your professional kid? How long have you been a kid for ten and a half years? So as an expert kid, do you have any words of advice for grownups on how to be a kid so how to be kit kit. First of all, I'm not a perfect kid. So I look to argue with my parents sometimes, but it never gets you anywhere. So I wouldn't really do that. So good word of advice is think of things that would be fun to play with your friends in then talk to them. And if they wanna do it. That's great step number two kit walked to Legos, build them. And you have to read Harry Potter star. Whatever one's best for. But has to be awesome. And if you had to give grownups one word of advice for regular recess. What would it be have fun and be nice, no fights Felix? It was really fun talking with you today. He sound like a recess expert. And. Pay things so much for listening to in the world this week. And parents if you want to continue the conversation with your kids, we've posted some questions about this episode in our website how in the world dot com. And while you're there, you can find links to some of the sources we use to tell her stories this week. Also, we love hearing from you. You can write us at. Hello. Wow. In the world dot com. Our show is produced by jet. Anderson. Say Hello jed our theme song. How in the world was written and performed by the pop ups. Check them out at the pop up Stott com special. Thanks to merited Halpern, rancher Jessica body Chelsea Erzen and Alex early for helping to make this show possible and big chat tended to half year old professional kid Felix for being part of our show. 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What in the Wow?! The Science of Awe
"Well it looks like we've done it again with today's episode. We wrap up another season of how in the world but of course you should keep coming back every week because while we work on season five we'll be handpicking some of our favorite past episodes to share with you. Also all you listen to today's show. I have a challenge for you. Every time you hear a reference or a clued to a past episode we want you to shout halls go right on back to listening like that. Mindy Mindy like that Men Day. Did you hear us say it's sorry? Sorry sorry continue can also in case you haven't heard we've got our very first book coming out on Tuesday June thirtieth the to what's in a while think in tinker playbook is now available for preorder. It's packed with wows steam theme challenges to keep the. While rolling. You could even use it to host your own home addition of to what's in awhile. Hairbrush microphone not included for more INFO on the to. What's in a while? 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Give the toilet a quick flash. I might have made a deposit earlier. You're getting that setup. Just GOING TO CAREFULLY HANG. Dentists static man cave onto the wall. Here GETS ME EVERY TIME. Mindy Mindy got check out my newly renovated screen trap newly renovated ice cream law. Who Wow on. Wheels roll out the red carpet for the red carpet in the guy rise and be them. What do you have going on in this place in the now we still to getting gravity making this up the ceiling. We'll just flung out of Earth's orbit. Oh Yeah Reggie was able to Lasso at back just in time should see this bird. Worker Rope And then we have to find a way to display the spittle Doug little teepee bubble habitat without popping it. But once we finish. We'll have an almost functioning mini museum row on wheels. This is incredible. Mindy you've taken artifacts and mementos of our last twenty scientific adventures and turn them into a tiny curated museum collection at tiny curated museum collection on wheel. This really your old dilapidated ice cream truck and I mean it's a nice -able now and it now runs on beetlejuice. No exploding stars and get this. Instead of ice cream the soft serve machine now serves non. Newtonian THE MY FACE. The outreach working at a few of the Kings Hey shrimp McLean cleaner system. Our trip to the bottom of the red seat. I hired them on my wow on wheel. Spot GREAT SHRIMP. Now get back to your display case. Ooh Well so I guess my question is why Mindy Turn Your Ice Cream truck into a rolling museum of our past adventures. Well I could tell you yes. I'd rather show you. Please tell me I'm not going to have to push this thing up my hill like I did with machine turned everything we said into song. Now that thing broke into a billion pieces remember but I what they can salvage a piece of one of our songs. I can show you books in parts of players on five hundred list. You know in Hindsight Mindy that may have actually been one of your greatest inventions. That thing was pretty bonker balls any whom I also enlisted the world's slowest animals to carefully pull us around town in this thing that we don't fly over any bumps and spill the honeypots a be BARF. I have on display in the slot slot and the salamander from the one hundred meter. Not a dash or go to pull this thing mindy creatures barely moved right. Dr. No no no. No No. As a wise person named Mo once said don't let the pigeon drive the bus I think Mo was referring to a different pigeon. Hey gene is earning rubberized now only used to India in the. Are you really GonNa let people into Tour Your Tiny Science Museum? I mean it's not even finished finished. Well okay as humans. We are constantly learning and expanding our knowledge of the universe and that learning just leads to more questions more questions that lead to more scientific investigation. Yes yes I agree with that but to answer your question guy rise no my wow on wheels. Museum is not finished. It's also not insured or safe but just like science. It is a global human endeavor and I'm calling on people from all over the world to participate in the process of building it incur- rating. It's now knows the with me. So what your saying is your getting tired of doing all the work yourself and you want the neighborhood people doing for you pretty much. What you do in your cool collectibles. Hey is that my static man? Cape the looking for that. I mean c'mon looking for that Dennis. Welcome to our wills a rolling thunder of science in wonder. Oh you Dennis. What do you have against science? It's not that I have anything against science. It's just that I don't believe in. Oh like air. For example I mean is it if I can't see it I don't need it. Oh Kay why don't you have? Reggie show you around the museum and Alqadi. Oh Rodman tour is VIP J. Very IB okay. Here's the deal. I just read the scientific study in the Journal. Cognition in emotion and in this study a researcher from the University of Rochester named Jonathan mcphee. Tras had this hypothesis or educated. Guess that when humans are wowed we become more aware of the things that we don't know okay and when we know we don't know we go off in search of filling in those holes in our knowledge and wanting to fill in those holes leads us to a bigger interest in science so in other words w-wh or a sense of off can lead people to love science even the dentist of the world. This can't laughter. I don't think you want to spray that. I'm so curious. The as Dennis checks out the artifacts that I've collected from all of our latest adventures. What he's experiencing is a sense of off or as. I like to call it. Oh is this a growling crab? How does it do that? Why do you growl Mr Crab? Are You mad? He's crabby interesting and you know. Come to think of it as I'm observing. Dennis I'd say that is is similar. Emotion to surprise extreme curiosity exact doritos. In fact what. We're witnessing right now. Is Dennis experiencing something that is beyond the realm of his own imagination? All of the science collected in this tiny museum right in his mind is so blown by what he doesn't yet understand. He's feeling the need to make sense of it. All to fill in those holes or gaps in his knowledge and so according to the study that combination of on curiosity could lead him to science. Okay Mr Crabby grabbed bats. We're GONNA do a little experiment whether or not man management. What's not a forest twenty-foot Multi Stop Truck Yours who seventy two G? Thomas fingerling Mindy Micro House. I'm not sure there's enough room in here for two wheels. Rolling Bender of some wonder looks like you gotta ran infestation rat race rats in this museum. Anything I ever go and win your Mama. No good says I'm going to need to use that smart toilet over there pretty soon. Please don't use that only I can't you. Nothing mcadoo Guy Rise. Why don't we just get back to that study? I was telling you about okay all right. The one that suggests that experiencing is sense of all can lead to a greater interest in science. Yep that's the one. So did Dr Dramatic features conduct any experiments to test his hypothesis. Oh yeah as I mentioned earlier. His hypothesis was basically that when humans are wowed something we become more aware of what we don't know which often leads us on a scientific quest to fill in the holes in our knowledge which led him on a scientific quest. Vive suck in man. My babies back from win that one day I lost my parents. Please put that back. Dennis Year Static Man Cape is now part of the Museum Exhibit Karaz at this point. Dennis is part of the exhibit back to this Daddy. Doctor Beatrice conducted four experiments where he manipulated or attempted to sneak. League control people sense of off by showing them amazing science videos and then I guess he was able to see how those videos made the groups of people the. Oh you got it. Did the people know they were being manipulated? Well not necessarily but these people were participants in the study. So they knew they were part of the experiment. Gotcha and four these experiments. He broke the participants into basic groups. The off groups and the control groups and just to be clear. A control group in an experiment is the group. That's not being experimented on. But they don't necessarily know that right right so in this case the control groups were not manipulated in any way they were supposed to serve as groups of regular people who might not be feeling a lot of all and I guess because the Control Group wasn't actually being experimented on. They could help. The scientists measure how those cool videos affected the other groups that were being experimented on the groups. You got it. And that's because the control groups gave the scientists something to compare the off groups too so in some of these experiments the off groups were shown a three d virtual of the Aurora Borealis from the BBC's planet Earth Credible. Yeah in the whole purpose of showing. This particular video was to spark a sense of. Wow when wonder. In the participants and attempt to manipulate their sense of all typic- tricker Christie in one of these offerings the researchers eve the participant outward extra information connected to the science and the video as an additional effort to stoke their sensabaugh. What about the control groups? Were they shown video to well? The control groups were also shown a video but not one was intended to manipulate their sense. Of Wow and wonder in fact they were just shown a silly science video from the BBC's walk on the wild animal comma token animals and then and then afterwards Dr Mick Beatrice had them answer a bunch of questions like do you regularly ask yourself how the natural world works or video. Make you realize how much you don't know about nature okay. And then in another part of this study he offered each participant tickets to either a science museum or an art museum fun. What and what he discovered was that sixty eight percent well over half of the people who had watched the AW inspiring. Video chose the Science Museum and only thirty. Two percent chose the art museum. Exact Torito's dumped MC beatrice founded the all inspiring groups not only showed more feelings of awe but they also seem to know what they didn't know about the natural world and those two things combined. Aw and knowing what you don't know lead to seeking out science to fill in the gaps and that might be what they chose the Science Museum Yup Science help this to fill in the gaps of knowledge. Were missing or as I like to call them. I don't know exactly these old taste. Thomas fingerling those holes are honeypots. Find Iras that barf comes from the bees honey Tommy remember Oh i WanNa honey tummy. Do you sell them in the gift shop. Any who after reading this study I was inspired to create this. Wow on wheel museum to help. Share all of the Knowledge Holes. We've built for ourselves through our scientific adventures with the hopes of inspiring others with the wow and wonder of science to Bingo Guy. Rise now Henry my megaphone. I'm about to say something Inspirational Reggie Reggie Megaphone. Thank you very much of the world and our place in. It helps to him in this to solve problems into one right mindy. It's because of our inspiring science. We have light bulbs and medicine and airplanes machines that help us to connect with people happy around the globe best party there is a never ending supply of wow and wonder to dome around which means never run out of new discovery. We ran out of things to see here in this tiny museum. Well Dennis. I'm sorry but I got it since we're out of things to see. I'll go collecting. We can't see with the naked eye arrival museum of invisible science. I'll start with display of invisible air and then a display of black holes gigs on Mindy. My sense of the brainstorm all included tar grade farm followed by Red Light Joe and Ben the Cherry on top an entire job of Neutrinos Moose. Froze lost his marbles so long by allies in adventure. Studi call Nudie. Come along grandparents. You're with me no way. Are we related mindy? I think you might have sparked a sense of wondering why Dennis as well Mindy and Reggie. I see some empty space in the back of this. 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445: How to Support Other Leaders, with Mindy Pankoke, Jeff VandenHoek, and Andrew Mugford
"On this Saturday cast how to leverage different experiences without having to personally learn at all this coaching for leaders episode four hundred forty five. They've produced by innovate learning maximizing human potential greetings to you from Orange County California. This is coaching for leaders. And I'm your host Dave Stove you leaders are born. They're or made in this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. This is the monthly Saturday cast about once a month. Your air a a Saturday episode. That's a chat with some of our KADEMI members or listeners. The regular next episode is coming on Monday. This is an extra show we do just about once a month and the Saturday dirty caster sponsored and brought to you by the Coaching Leaders Academy the Academy is a year long cohort of participants leaders. Who worked personally with me to create movement in their leadership development and organizational results? You can discover more and get alerted about opportunities to apply for the Academy by Visiting Coaching for leaders tres dot com slash academy and. Today's conversation is really very much in line with what we do in the academy. It's how does support other leaders effectively and a few months ago. One of our longtime listeners reached out to me and mentioned that he was working with two other listeners and that they put together something that I thought was so unique and I was so excited to hear their story and I am really thrilled to be able to welcome not one not two but three listeners to the so today who have just done some wonderful work on supporting each other over the last several years a so. I'm pleased to welcome to the show today. Mindy pancakes she. He is in healthcare technology as a product manager. Also glad to welcome Jeff Vanden Hook. He's a business owner consultant and coach. Helping people get better one in conversation at a time and also I'm thrilled to welcome Andrew Mugford. He is in higher. Education has a salesforce administrator. Hello to all three of you. Glad to have on our they've to be here so I talked to jeff a few months ago and Jeff you sent me an email and said that the three three of you had been working together for a couple of years and I was so fascinated by how this happened. How did this happen and come together? Yes something sparks. Sparks me to reach out to you and let you know that you'd had impact beyond what you were aware of. And we met way back on September fifteenth in twenty seventeen seventeen on one a year zoom cast and all of a sudden we were Kinda freaking out because you're throwing us into on zoom into our own little private of it discussion and so here I am meeting with million Andrew and we clicked so well that we've continued our conversations monthly since the Dow I just really was amazed as to how you had met on up event. We did you know a couple years ago for one of our KADEMI application periods. And the thing that was really interesting and to me is that you invested in relationships with each other that have really transcended position changes industries and it seems like something. That's that's really unique mindy when this came together when you all reached out to each other how did this start yeah so it it was really unique and reminiscent coming back to that time. That zoom meeting where you know you did what everyone out in two perfect strangers smog. Rude and it came about with you. Kick this off with a simple question that we we did around table and the question was around. What's something really top of mind a challenge for you and your guidance was talk through it brainstorm with each other and whatever feedback feedback? You get. Just thank you so jeff and Andrew and I we. We did that and again as as Jeff said we just found it so valuable. It was really enlightening. It was a founding ending board. That was unbiased and we decided. Hey let's let's continue this. You know this is just a really cool practice and we can help each other. And you know we'll make it it beneficial to us all set expectations of what we want to get out of it. And we've just been connecting. Ever since we've transitioned in our careers. I had been in a previous role. Oh and a previous part of my organization and this team here I you know I consider them really a my my board of Directors Andrew and Geoff. They helped me. They gave me guidance. When you know one of my challenges was being in my current role winning more I wanted to grow and they just had fantastic insight and things that that were again unbiased from a great couple of people? It's really interesting how we tend to as professionals have really close relationships with the people we work with every day but sometimes Pretty good network within our industry and then of course our families outside of that though I think for most people don't really develop a relationship with books Outside of our organization and Industry who really can be a little more objective with us. It's one of the reasons I know. Bookstore Academy find that value just getting outside side of the daily politics and I'm curious for you as you've gotten together with Jeff and mindy over the last couple of years regularly what's been the value of looking outside added the organization and the industry. Oh it's really refreshing a great opportunity to disconnect with people. That don't likely know anyone you know. I mean we're in two different countries. In three different time zones so rebut separate is you could get and you can just feel free to talk about whatever is is going on in your life whether it be personal or business and you worry about what anyone here's GonNa say or what's going to get back to someone and you can just be genuine about the problems. You're facing and the challenges as you seek input on how to overcome them. You might think it's difficult because they don't know no apps the industry they don't know my company that don't know the personalities but I mean people aren't that different so if you're having a challenge we've all had challenges with people so it's actually not as you ask a few questions. Maybe yes mindy explain me a bit more about how you department structured things like that. I mean but it's just it's great to have sorta this anonymous innocence group non anonymous to each other but an anonymous to each other companies in lives until this podcast goes out anyway. Sure I'd love to add to that you. Andrew agree on all parts. In addition our challenges are all transferable. It doesn't matter what industry you're in what role you're in an example that I had was really around crucial conversation that I needed to have with someone in my organization and that's a challenge you no matter what industry you're in or experiences you have. It's all transferable and I I. I don't know if you guys remember that one. It was a challenge and you each had experiences that had nothing to do with my industry. Or you know regardless of how the organizations are structured. Your experiences gave me insight insight where I could think about it in a different light and it was just. It's empowering right it's empowering to go in with kind of a another set of ways than your head if you will is just great right. I would just add that. Thanks just the thing that really impressed me. When Jeff reached out was I think this is the first time in eight years of the show running that folks have met in some way through a really small connection point and have kept it going and you all really taking the initiative to yourself all the scheduling all the connections all the structure? Sure of how this looks and I m curious Jeff as the started off. What kind of expectations did you set with each other? As far as how you were going to support each other. That's a great question Dave as I work with groups and teams. It's really important to me. That teams groups new teams that are forming group agreements. And so we talked about that. What are the expectations? And we decided a monthly cadence would work well for us and we got a platform that worked well for us at the time we've kept at that time and as noted earlier at least two of us are there every Wednesday at the end of the month so we decided that and I think we even talked about outs each year reviewing this is something that I want to continue with so I think it's always important for a group to have a review period to say. This is a group that has been great value in yet. I need to step out now or variety of reasons so none of us have stepped out. We've talked about that. There's been break professional respect along the way and confidentiality goes without saying and yet it needs to be said and it's it has been a very safe space for me me to get a variety of perspectives ideas. Books Concept's questions. I had Mr Andrew Salesforce I am looking at my website and he. He helped me so much in reviewing that and he didn't have to do that does it. Out of friendship and so we've built a really good friendship. I think over the last last years. There's the temptation I think when we get together with a group of people that we don't know very well and are doing something like you all have done on your own which is to create a learning space and the temptation is to think. Well what could I possibly offer. I know I'll gain from from others. But what am I gonNA offer and I know that's a fear that a lot of our KADEMI members have coming in as well to injure you mentioned that there was a fear for you when this started off as well. What was that like in? What did you discover as you went so I was told a story once about a group that was trying to get CEOS of major corporations to mentor younger entrepreneurs and even they return with the answer? Well what could I possibly offer them. So I I've taken I reflect on that and I try and just accept the fact that they haven't kicked me out of the group yet so I guess I'm doing something. We are all in sort of different levels of organization we all have different work experience. And and you know sometimes when we're trying to help each other it's really just a matter of you know mindy might line in a a problem child. She's having an indefinite to sort of start throwing things atr Attar to see what sticks once I recommended a software solution to mindy and she said we can't do that because the regulations as Franco business. Okay well that one didn't work works so then we tried to find the next solution and I think what. I'm often discovering. Is that if if you're asked the right question if you're put into a situation where your input it is actually wanted and it's safe. You actually find out that you know more than you think you do. I mean especially if you've listened if you're the kind of person that would listen. Listen to coaching for leaders. You probably know more than you think you do. And you have more to offer than you think you do. Because people who don't learn who you are not self aware typically don't think listen to podcasts like coaching for leaders and eat it. It's one of the things that I love about. Our community in the three view is just the the heart to want to help right and sometimes because we have all of us that Heart WanNa do it well right and there's the tendency to a lot of us have spent AH years in school and we've been conditioned to do things well under perform well and it's hard sometimes to suggest something and not have the context of the other person's reality and organization innovation and Industry and we may be suggesting something that really doesn't make sense in the context of what's happening and this actually comes back to something. You mentioned a few minutes ago Mindy on just just saying thank you and I do recall us talking about that in that live session a couple of years ago. Tell me about that and how that's been valuable to you absolutely absolutely I would say the key value point here and why this works is everything is mutual so as we as we get together and we talk about our challenges and keeping this as we're sharing ideas just being appreciative and thank thank you for the idea walking through it it it. It keeps everything everything level that were it's not just you know one person in sharing all of their their woes and their challenges and then that's it it's kept mutual so every your time Andrew and Jeff and I get on a call we try to spice up the time so we each have you know a third of the hour and saying thank you recognizing that you know. That's the encouragement Jamin to continue to have ideas come to you and I WANNA speak of it to accountability as we. We have been together. We have our challenges when we come up and help each other solve them. Keeping each other accountable holding each other accountable for following up is something that because we are taking turns because we are mutually benefiting from each other's conversation it makes you want to reach out and say Hey Andrew you said you were going to go run or your your fitness goals or have you just following on that. It's just a grateful setting that were that were in that word. Accountability is one. I hear a lot in academy groups excite facilitate as well mindy is that value of coming back and sane checking in on which you said you were going to do. How's that been helpful to you? Jeff Jeff in just thinking about movement don thanks. Yeah I was just thinking about that. Listen in the men's the spin great. I'm a solo per noor. Yeah yea as a business coach and leadership coach and sometimes that can get lonely and so to have Andrew Mindy in my life that are away from all the work that I do and in noted in different geographic locations and time zones is been refreshing and as a coach. I'm often the random Dan. I'm staying long putting it on my calendar and so Dave I'm going to be reaching back to you on February fifth and asking you how that went and you know a coach East and across from me goes on now. Oh you're GONNA do that. Aren't you and insult to have that lip right back to me. And I have my own coach in coaches in my world. Have that from another source from Andrew. Andrew and Mandy is that helps me get stuff done as a solo per noor. That doesn't add this board or the staff sitting here telling me you gotTa have it you gotTa gotTa get it delivered Andrew. How has accountability been useful to you? It's as just as bad as the double edged sword. It's you you agree to it and then you after actually do it. It's great because the hardest part with accountability. I find in finding someone to do it. is you go to someone say. Can you hold me accountable accountable. I just need you to text me. Whatever once a week and usually people will say yes but then they drop off after a couple of weeks and I feel like if I asked Mindy? You're jeff and they make Mitt to do what they will do it. which is huge and the other thing with accountability? As well as just the whole question of what do you do you when you have something to offer. What I'm thinking reflecting on here is that this isn't hard to do? It's not hard to listen. It's not hard to try in offer for people whatever comes to your mind as an insight and if it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't it's not hard to send an email attacks. The difficult part is in the commitment to do it because I think these days we make commitments for a quickly but then we tend to break them just as quickly because we're not taking into account how busy we really are so. That's only for people to consider too when they think of an arrangement like this is really think about whether something you can do. But don't worry about whether it's difficult. It's not difficult just having a chat with friends. Who Want your input on something? Yeah and I'm really I appreciate what you said Andrew in that. I think there's a tendency tendency to not be willing to start something. We have probably half a dozen people within our Kademi community right now who have done some version version of what you all have done on your own which is to start. A group within their organization sometimes are within their industry and they've been the catalyst to say. Hey they've raised their hand in some way and said. Hey I'm putting this together. Who would like to play and be a part of this? And here's maybe some expectations here will start and just kind of see how things go and those have gone really well. In many cases of really continuing this and looping back to accountability one of the other words that came up in our conversation earlier earlier. Conversations is a word I think you said Mindy Celebration and the importance of celebrating. Tell me how important in your discussions a celebration is key and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like I'm the one thing the celebration of you know just has done phenomenal things with building A business from scratch all of these wonderful ideas and it's natural for for those hone in on you know what's not going well or challenges but any time time jeff talking about challenges bringing up some you know a new business. But he has a small inkling of hey by the way this went through. Well it's like well. Let's let's focus on that right. Let's celebrate because that's what gives us fuel to keep going. That's I don't think people celebrate it enough really taking the time to not just say I did it and move on but think about what went right. How did I get to that point because the liberation can be repeatable right successes can be repeatable if you really look at them I I? I think it's important to celebrate and especially when we have this mutual engagement amongst US three. That let them celebrates the safe space. Okay sometimes people are you know. Don't celebrate it. Looks like they're either. You Know I. It's something you don't WanNa spend your time doing but in our area in our in our arrangement here I can force awesome to celebrate. I can say hey. What went really? Well let's talk about it and you know this is life it's part of life and we got all celebrate a lot more. I don't know if if you agree or disagree or Andrea. What do you think I agree with? You Mindy Mindy is like the one that brings the party hats. And you know the zoos and everything else Austin. And it's awesome and we do we take moments to stop and celebrate and I haven't done so many virtual high fives ever. It helped me learn how to do that though. And we've never met each other in person so to sit on a screen and we've met each other through the screen doing virtual high fives celebrating celebrating. And then other times. Just being deeply saddened with some things that maybe we're working through that the gamut of emotions runs through our conversations because we're people people leaders are leaders or leaders and it is great to slow down and celebrate this great in India. You are a great cheerleader. In that regard I think it goes to just the one of the great things about this group is we just happened to get in some sense. The right combination of people I think jeff and I are maybe maybe not predisposed to celebrating by default. But it's great that we have many. That will remind us to do that. And we each bring your own sort of unique skill set. What's on offer on our conversations? The reminds me of a quote Mindy reminded US earlier from Jim Rohn. You're the average of the five people you spend the most time with and of course there are people in all of our lives are good and bad reasons that we are not able necessarily to be intentional. About as far as the relationships we pick especially in the professional space and yet we really do have agency more so than I think most of us think to create the kinds of relationships and the kind of influence that we'd want and you all I have done that and a really amazing way. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I didn't ask about some of the things that you've done in some of the hacks and the books and resources you've used as you've gone gone down this journey and I know some of the things that have come from the show have been helpful to you to Andrew Right one of the books that you mentioned and past interviews was the work of James Clear and atomic habits. What's been helpful to you as you've dove in on that over the last year? So yeah so it's all like habits but James Clear one of the most clear and systematic in real life descriptions of how to change habits that I've read bad. There's a lot of a habit. Change Goal Setting guides out there that all basically offer up their own version of smart goals but with him took a behavioral approach which is appropriate for habits. And just basically says act like the person you want to be an every action within those habits is a vote for the person you want to be so so if being who the person you want to be requires you to get up at six. Am to go for a quick run because you wanna be the marathoner nuts. The person who runs marathons but a marathoner earth owner then getting up is a vote for yes. That's person I WANNA be. I don't WanNa be this other person anymore. And his symbol is a triangle or as he would say at Delta and Delta is a symbol for change small changes and that was just really meaningful to me the idea of like start small and a lot of his ideas as you know are not new. But the way he's package them together and explains them is just so clear and just so well done and the he offers numerous sort of templates for how to structure your life around different types of habits. It's a phenomenal book. Highly recommended everybody. He's changed a lot of my thinking to just of the purchasing rather than things from a goal from an identity like you said he had and it's been so useful to me so many folks in our community to to think about behavioral change in that way it mindy as you've been working with Jeff and with Andrew and listening to the show what something that's been useful to you or or may even you've changed your mind the last couple of years and you're learning. I'M GONNA have to call on my when I was transitioning job. I was looking for something that would enable me too to grow in my position. I actually love the company that I'm with and at the time there was a few different options I could way and you know. It's not a book and maybe Jeff could could be a bit more to it but but jeff had really set of questions a series of series of questions. That really helps me to weigh. What's important to me? What what are things that I need to be prioritizing? When I'm considering you know a career move and it feels really simple but it you know when you actually sit down and think that way? That was really really helpful for me to kind of reframe my perspective as I'm looking for any position and really looking for you know I don't I just want more money. I want these specific things out of this new job and that was a tool that jeff had had shared with me. That worked really well. How how Jackie can add to that that was but we've shared so many different things and transferred? Yeah my memory summary is that it was a values who'll that I use not out of a book. We all steal ideas and still this from my friend with his permission and made up my own. And and it's getting clarity on what our values what bribe us and then creating that filter so that we can make the best decisions and sometimes those are hard decisions because they're shiny balls in there. That just looked like all. I want that I want that but really it doesn't fall through the sickly looking at career changes changes in jobs. It doesn't fall through that Brit. So yeah million. I talked about that. I use that a lot with with my clients. And it's it's good to ask simple questions and get clarity on what is most important me. What's enough money? What's enough friends? How much is too much travel? How how much is enough time? You're looking at some of these things that are elements of our day every day and sometimes we don't slow down enough to think about what's what's most important to me in regards to some of those different values the speaking of simple questions someday. We will era Saturday cast and we don't mention the name of Michael Bungay Standard. That's not going to be today. Because that's one of the folks you mentioned to me Jeff. That's also been helpful to you. Is The author of the coaching habit than on the show several times. You mentioned that that works been released leasable in Your Work Jeff. Also oh my goodness yeah I was. I can remember driving over the hill here where I live in Oregon and listening coming to him for the first time in just a delightful Seoul first off and he keeps it so simple and the question and what else and what else Elson sometimes referred to as a business shrink in the also. I feel like I'm doing therapy here. Michael Help me think through coaching. I was doing with the client. I had been with a client for four years and they were into a transition time of looking at a new model for their Leadership Development Global Leadership Development Program rustled with some of these things and styles in I remember talking with Mindy Andrew and they helped me think through. Do I go forward to want to be a part of this new process with this corporation or do I stay really true to who I am and use the style that I like. Which is very much like Michael's to stay and continue to do? My coaching and I made Mason hard decisions there to them. Not going to be a part of this. I'm not going to throw my hat into this ring and again it's the values of what's important. The Michael Michael's workers helped shaped by coaching in many ways. Now me to all three of V of just really such such an incredible example or supporting each other and part of what I hope comes out of this. Conversation is the movement forward. Did or everyone to do more of this. Whether it's something formerly like joining our academy are considering it or getting into a group like the three of you've done with outside of your industry or maybe even within the organization or industry to raise your hand hither literally or figuratively and say. Hey let's get together a couple of people once a month over lunch or even over a zoom session and what's just toss around a few ideas into a brainstorming session and my invitation mutation everyone would be if we could just start this process of supporting each other better. We really do fight that loneliness that I think a lot of his field leadership and Jeff you you feel it most apparently think as a as a small business owner and yet I think also it. I know so many folks in large organizations who have leadership roles interact with people all day long but feel that same sense of loneliness because they don't take the time to do with the three of you have done and I'm just going off of what you've done in the consistency and how much you've dedicated your support fourteen other and thank you for being such a great example. Thank you if this conversation was helpful to you. Several related episodes one of them so to thirty seven. These coaching questions get results with Michael Bungay stain in your. We mentioned his work. Seven key questions that are in the coaching habit book. We reviewed a number of them on episode two thirty seven degrees introduction to Michael's work. I'd also recommend episode three ninety five how to create meaningful gatherings with Priya Parker. Preah Parker has done some incredible work on on bringing people together and how to do that with intention and yes intentionally how to also exclude but not exclude as in trying to keep people out but excluding for the purpose of being beneficial to the people who are president finding commonalities setting good expectations. It's a ton of really helpful advice from her on how to bring gatherings of people together in meaningful ways three ninety five. Check that out. If that's of interest to you I also would recommend episode three ninety-seven make your work. More visible with John Stepford. John is the author of working out loud. He he talks in that episode about ways. You as a leader can use their framework working out loud circles in order to engage effectively with other leaders and potentially even within your organization. It's a very popular model. It's been used extensively in many organizations and John Talks in detail on how to do that on episode so three ninety seven all of those past episodes you can find over on the coaching for leaders dot com website. All you need to do is set up your free membership at coaching for leaders Tres Dot Com and it will give you access to all of the past Saturday casts that also give you access to the entire podcast episode library since two thousand eleven happen searchable by topic plus the weekly leadership. Guide my book notes on my own personal library a ton more resources including two the audio courses that are available behind the free membership so you can get access to that easily and you heard me mention. 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The Rise And Fall of Static Man
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Wow let's do it again Take aw who aren't rain. Rain water slipping slide and Seattle their brew in mysterious. No now who can help you say now. What's with the mask in the phone? You're looking for Jama's nothing to say a mysterious semester. Halloween Tober high. Got Me Candy Wiping your feet on my welcome. I mean I suppose that's what it's that matters. One hundred percents wall by the look of them pajamas. You're wearing all their. You're building up the static charge. No don't you touch me. Five eight statics. It kind of hurts and super annoying. Aw in that little piggy we all the way Hoke doc in other news a mass billet known only as static has been wanting a local neighborhood according to visuals victims number into the tens of people being the Banet Raviolis already. I'm Kevin you little pockets of joy. The individual in question has been using the tower of static electricity to intimidate shuck and generally annoy residents of the small community Samantha. Squirrel is on the Samantha the Bingo a local resident and business owner who claims of one of the static man's shocking visit the Resident and business owner and surfing champion and Country Music Star and I saw the static man ready off. Go check it out Thomas fingerling on Hamas fingerling investor things in this world. I don't like being touched being mildly wildly electrocuted and this dodig lags has got to be stopped powerful words from shocking development. What is the mystery behind this mask? Minutes this jolting jokester this charged up troublemaker. Arise did you know what this means that you're ready to get your BIB on and head on out to the Kenya. It means we have a mystery. Rita solve a mystery is solved but what about Kale. I've been looking forward to this for over a week guy. How can you expect me to just go out there and shut my face full of Kale when there is a masked men on the loose even concentrate but mindy look I tell you what you helped me track down this neighborhood new sins and then afterwards we'll go to the bowl and I'll even buy you one of those signed photographs photographs of Christian k from the dark invite? That's okay mindy fine. Let's go solve solve mystery. Okay Buddy let suit up. We've got some investigating do suit up. Well Yeah I mean you're not gonNA go investigating him. That are are you. What's wrong with my sustainable organic hand-loomed hemp thread one hundred percent fair trade blazer? Let's see what I have in my closet for you. Follow me Let me see here. cockroach cost you luminous lemming onesie never again bloating ants only have the oh wrench coats and thinking cats here. Hey these are actually really nice. Mindy I know I know right go ahead trying on a trenchcoat a big mindy grow into it and now for the calf oh perfect ooh wait one more thing there you go a magnifying glass. Wouldn't be much of a detective without one would you. Yeah I guess it's true. So where shall we start mindy. Well the news report said at the masked men is had been wreaking havoc all over the neighborhood so it goes to reason that someone around here must have seen something. Yeah we know who likes nice to snoop. Who Do we know that likes to keep tabs on people? Who Do we know who doesn't let anyone slip half spent this inspector? Ross one high. Hi Mindy Oh classic detective costumes are you on your way over to smooth con actually doing some investigating instigating. What are you investigating a will? We're trying to get to the bottom of who this mystery person who's been going around town zapping people. Oh Oh yeah you mean zanuck man man wait so you've seen no but I heard some things or what have you heard. Well it's a very long and tedious story. It begins at the dawn of time. Talk Wii okay fine. He looks for homes with the carpet. Welcome Mat rubs his feet on it to build up static. Electricity Zaps people after they answer the door. Happy that explains lanes why. He's called Static Mandy static electricity. Of course good to inspector. I have one more thing that it may interest you. What other information do you have a clue in old receipt? No not a receipt. It's static man's calling card a calling it's classic. The criminal leaves something like this behind at the scene of the crime to Tuck detectives and blame responsibility. Well I mean Zapping people with static. Electricity is kind of annoying. But I don't know if it's technically a crime. Look do you the clue or not Yes yes we will take that thank you very much. Now is the dramatic moment to fate. The game is afoot Blah. Bye Bye was that all about. What does the same indy? Well hang on. I'm going to need to borrow that. Magnifying glass it. Says I know what you're up to guy in mindy immoral at my command of tribe. Oh `electricity ever since the time of tolleys and let us modern scientists have been at a loss but a new study did reveal how this power beat came so so real. What does it mean inspector rise? What does it mean well? We're investigators skaters are we well. Let's investigate India. Let's breakdown this clue and see if we can figure out where to go next. Great Idea Inspector Barassie let the what the first line say again. I know what you're up to guy and mindy and we give really marvel at my command of Tribal Electricity Mike Command of tribal electricity wild. Could that mean well. Tribal Electricity is a scientific name for static. Electricity that is generated from friction like the kind hind a friction caused by rubbing your feet on the carpet or a balloon against knocking. Exactly friction is a type of energy that's generated when into things are rubbed together. Okay so when. This person says marvel at my command of tribal electricity. They're saying look look at how I'm able to control the static electricity. Oh they're mocking us. Okay all right go to the next line Mindy okay okay Ever since the time of Tala and my liege US modern scientists have been at a loss elitist. Litas was that Litas is a town from ancient Greece. Men The and if my knowledge of Greek philosophy serves me correctly I mean. It hasn't let us down down yet. Highly of Mellitus was the ancient Greek philosopher who I observed static electricity caused by friction all all the way back in six hundred BC. Oh that's like twenty six hundred years ago and what about this next part. Modern scientists have have been at a law. Mindy my guess. Is that even though. We've known about static electricity for a long time now. Scientists have never ever really fully understood why rubbing two objects together creates electricity. Until now what do you you mean it's right here in the next part of the IRA's look more closely. Do you need my magnifying glass. Sure thanks just see here but but a new study did just reveal how this power became so real weight. Mindy this says there's is a new study that reveals how static electricity works. Yes I was just reading about this okay so this group of researchers from northwestern Worth Western University in Evanston Illinois. They just recently solved twenty six hundred year old mystery of how friction becomes static attic electricity. Well how what did they find well. They Gerald factor along with their bras. It's coming from Integra Mudgee. Not brewers is perfect kicking down. The door Are you PRIMIN ON G. Four speaking happened in here. Tell you what camping pat became give madness Business the static call them sale man Guy Ross. We must have just missed him. Go Grandma G. Force no no no. Is He left with his tail between his legs. After wig out but not before I gotTa Jank Less G. Force. What is that funny looking pajamas? Soup must ripped ripped up and while I was giving them the all. This is perfect. We can analyze this piece of material. find out out for certain if it's from the static man and then and thin trace it back to its owner. execs does her curry detective. Mindy how are we going to figure out whether this material is the same sort of material that the static man's onesies made out of well if if you want to catch a super villain you've got to start thinking like a super villain. Just think about it Cairo's if you were trying to to make a costume that harnessed static electricity. Wouldn't you want it to be as Zappia as possible. Guess so well if we studied this this material just like those researchers did at northwestern university then we find out whether this material is able to generate static. Electricity you you know it okay mindy. Let's get started. So what are these scientists due to unravel. There's an twenty six hundred year old mystery. If you hand me your magnifying in glass again I can show you. Okay here you go right now where I put the button on this thing. What the magnified a button? Where is it? Why does a magnifying glass of magnify but because to see how static electricity is made? We need to magnify. Hi this material about one million times. Whoa a million times mindy? My regular microscope at home can only magnify stuff up the forty times well. This electrical reaction happens on a really small scale called a Nano scale mental scale. Yeah so you know how a meter for is pretty long. Yeah just a little over three feet and you know how a centimeter is pretty small betta third the size of an inch and a millimeter meter is even smaller than that. Just the Mindy Ward. Are you getting at well. A nanometer is even smaller than that. Oh so how small is it. A single human hair is about eighty thousand nanometers wide. WHOA AW is tiny mindy and we have to look this closely at the material in order to see the static reaction you know a Guy Roz and look down the button on this magnifying glass? Mendy look at that this piece of fabric break. This close up looks like a forest. It's like a like a flat surface with all of these little bumpy looking tree things poking out of it. It Jabba when I touch it. It still feel so smooth well when you magnify something this much and look at it this closely. Almost everything looks like this. Okay so how does reading this material against say grandma. G forces carpet create electricity. Well let's take a look Hey Grandma G. Force mind if we borrow your carpet for a second. What born over? We're just GONNA do a little science experiment yes okay guy. Arrive you hold the magnifying glass. Well I rubbed this material on the carpet and then tell me what you see. You got him indy. All right yes the I do all those little tree things that were poking up from the material are now ending and like seeing all over the place the perfect that's exactly what those researchers at northwestern university found when they were studying static electricity. Yeah Yeah they discovered that win these little trees flex and bend back and forth. They actually generate electricity. Yeah it's a phenomenon known one as the flexible electric effect exo electric car now. Of course you can't see this electricity. Because it's stored in those little tree tree like looking bumps but and this is a big but you can feel it. Can't it definitely works. Wait a minute what is said mindy up through. What do you mean? Seen this fabric before Guy Ryon Healy. Where from discount? Fabric store down the street. Eight the discount fabric store. Maybe what were you doing there. Well I needed some extra burlap for these. Underpants was making grandma G. Force for her birthday while you were there. You saw this exact same material and it's the only place in town that sells this stuff I bet that's where masked menace heading right now to repair his costume. Maybe we can still catch them. Better hurry up Welcome to Mr Mavericks fantastic fabrics bricks. We've got your favourite fibers. Corduroy silk cotton him GINGHAM leather. Actually were here on official business and of course you are. I can tell by the music and your official business. FIDORA's how can I help you tick dues this material. Arial at the scene of crime does my specially formulated flexible electric blue bland midnight black and and who did you last sell it to peculiar young man fussy and opinionated with a voice that could be like a dentist drilled. Wait a minute I need some more. That super sappy black fabric cats silks detective mindy Indian Inspector Guy. You may have discovered my secret identity. But you'll never catch me. It does face who calls this door Dennis your the neighborhoods masked mattis your static. Ma'am tennis menace. Yes twist me Dennis but Dennis you two are always learning about cool scientific testing things out for yourselves going on wacky adventures to the with hijinks and Tomfoolery. And did you ever stop to think that maybe Dennis would like to have a fun science adventure. What with all the antics Shenanigans uh-huh instead I'm left behind with nothing to do except ten my rise winning Azalea Bushes come up with comments to say out loud during a movie or practiced my recorder? Dennis you're more than welcome to join us on any of our adventures. We having you around and we love having you around all you have to do is ask US indie no quit being nice. You ruining my brooding in villainous monologue. Oh so I decided to go on my own scientific adventure in developing people with static electricity excellent question detective Mindy you see. I read a new scientific study that said scientists. This discovered how static electricity is created. And with all of that scientific knowledge. What else was I to do well? Dennis Senators those researchers at northwestern university plan to use what they learned from their steady to make devices like printers and air filters safer. You know take people see Dennis with every single new scientific discovery that comes along. People have a choice to make whether not use that knowledge for good or for evil. Oh you're right. What have I become? Take me away. Luckily the KI again sapping people is not technically a crime Dennis. You're not going to jail. I'm not of course horse or not. But you have to promise to stop zapping people all the time Peronist Mindy. I cast aside my life as Toria super villain. I don't know if I'd say notorious Iras. 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This has like something you'd make up. Indie only I'm not making it up guy rose. I just read about the Chola boxes exploded in the journal Zukis. They were discovered by these researchers at the university of VN of. Who gave them their name? So you're saying that a new kind of aunt was just discovered. Scientists have known about exploding ants for like two hundred years, but the Colo Bob's is exploded are the first new species of exploding ants to be named since nineteen thirty five what causes these hands to explode. Anyway. And why tell you. I'd rather show you or you could just tell me. Reggie why does your breath smell like the Getty? Nacho cheese burger pie flavored exploding and Reggie. What about the healthy nutritious lunch? I made for you. Reggie said it tasted like birdseed was birdseed reading we need you to take us to the Borneo jungle in southeast Asia. Okay. Shunned goal now. Let me just grab my adventure tool box. And. Ooh. Grab these costumes. I've been saving for the right moment. And I'm gonna take a quick bath. And some fuck spray. And so the horned frogs. What of course, hairspray rate? What the flying on a pigeon? Always makes my hair go frizzy. Get your caboose on this bird right now coming I'm coming. Finally. You're ready. Indeed. Now, hold onto your hair helmet IRAs is because here we. Landing read. There is no such thing as a nice tree landing Mindy. How are we gonna get down from here for the ride read? We're not getting down from here boy would have gotten this into now. I know we're in a free. But why I thought we were coming here to witness some exploding ants. Oh, we are the exploding. And we're looking for make their nests in the trees of this jungle. Okay. So how exactly are we supposed to know what we're looking for? Well, first things first I need you to put this sign. Why does everything always have to be costume party? Get one for me to where did you even find these giant ant, suits? Anyway, aunt MO Jo made them for us. I've been saving them for a special occasion. And made them get it. Now each costume comes with three parts, just like real aunt. Let's see here. We've got the heads. The thorax is which are the middle of the ant and abdomen the but more or less. So here you go. I think this purple longs to you. This store x belongs to you. Hey. How do I look Mindy? You look like a two headed end you look like a to butted aunt a buck for your head in. But for your bun. Give me back my head. Makes you different makes you beautiful. Ready to street down to the size of an. Zimba- Sukhum again, turn guy Roz. Look like a big scary. Craze in raising buffalo rant flavored exploding. And. I could just eat. You don't you? Okay. Better string down there with you little buddy, Allah, kabuki, Cindy us, this shrieked one to shrink. Trade what of economics or one of your hands. They're freaking out. That cackle of training hug. Shriek ron. I got now. Like, my voice like you. Still the size of an aunt, but is back to normal. Laugh. Testing testing. That's better. Okay. Now that we've got that all out of the way time to go. Find some exploding and ready. So what exactly are we looking for again? And I know what answer look like Mindy. But what are these exploding ants? Look like there's to strawberry about the way. They look when you find them in the wild. I mean, it's pretty much looked like your average everyday tiny little red ants. Look, I think I see some of them over there in that end colony Mindy. There must be millions of them. And they look supposingly busy. Yeah. That's them. All right. Take these magnifying goggles look closely and check out the one handing out. By EMI things strange about their faces. Well, it looks like they don't have any big mandible 's clawlike pinschers that are usually attached to an aunt's mouth Geyer is without these mandible 's these exploding ants aren't able to bite or sting which makes them look like Riddy easy target for any larger predators with the big appetite. Interesting. I'm noticing some patterns to how the ants move around that or colony it looks like there's a Queen at the top and then different sets of worker ants below her. It's almost like a kingdom of ants yet in every an Scott their own job in the colony. Wow, fascinating. So those little brownish red ants below the worker. Ants are the Colo Bob sus exploding. Yep. Those are the exploding. All right. So the exploding ants are at the bottom of the colony hierarchy. Look at the marching outside. The kingdom colony like tiny little guards on duty. Starting to notice something with that. Well, all of these worker ants, including the exploding ants. Well, they all appear to be female. How can you tell? Well, they're wingless for one. And generally, the only aunts that have wings are males and the Queen ant. Well, I guess that is the case in a lot of ant species. What's that? Queen ant will the Queen ant is the founder and leader of the colony and she lives deep deep down within the colony far out of reach any predators. Must be nice. So what does she do all day? It's her job to lay thousands of eggs, and from those eggs, come all of the ant babies that then grow up to live and work in the colony wait a minute. So the Queen ant has a bunch of aunt babies, and then makes them grow up to do all of her dirty work. Well, that's one way. To look at it. See every aunt within a colony has a specific job. Yeah. I knew that. But what exactly are all of these different jobs? Well, some forage or search for food to bring back some build the ant hills or dig the holes, some protect the colony busy little guys. You mean busy little gals? What many almost all of the aunts? We ever come across are female. So you're telling me that all these little worker. Ants and soldier ants are girl. That's right. The male ants are known as grooms and their only job is to use their tiny wings to swoop on into the nest mate with the Queen and then die shortly after but the females well, the females are actually stronger and larger than the male, and and in the colony they pick up all the slack once the males are finished with their job. They die off. So we're left with females and the females are doing all of the work in protecting the Queen ant who lives deep down inside the nest then written much all of the end that we ever see on the outside are female. That's right. Oh, most worker and soldier. Ants are girl. What was that? Look. From running. We're not even the danger will end who. That menacing-looking Beadle Roach into aunts net. Looks like he's ready to attack the colony Mindy. We should warn the ants crawling around in there. Watch out. Stop screaming. He don't even have ears to hear you. Well, we've got to alert them somehow. Let's stop on the ground. So they can pick up the warning vibrations. No need for that guy Roz. But he's bigger than the exploding hands. He could. Keep it on the down low. What what happened? Okay. Well, the enemy is approaching the nest. An thirsty starting to. Latching onto that. So whose whole of bop Thurs? Wait. What are they doing? Now. Are they king? They're fun stuff in the air. And it looks like they're moving. They're stuck up butts closer to their predator now, they're electing in their tiny bloated abdomen. If they don't stop flexing squeezing your the first of their own. This is the. Predator. Getting tangled that do best. Rest in peace for ocean beetle. Andy does that toxic goose smell like curry sauce to you? Yeah. Like, my favorite, Indian takeout place. In fact, they'll mad about then he don't eat it. Right. Just because it smells like curry does not mean it is curry to tattoo that on my forehead when we get back. Wow. That wasn't tense. A why wouldn't aunt exploded self defensive predator? Like that. That's the thing about these aunts. They worked together as a colony or group and having agreement that the needs are in this case the survival of the group is more important than the individual and themselves. These exploding ants sacrifice themselves. So that the rest of the colony conserve? I talk about sisters having each other's backs in my right? Well mindy. I think it's about time. We get out of here before the Queen ant puts us to work. Yeah. Plus this and suit is so tight on me about tunes flowed out of it. But I. Better run shrink ourselves, right shrink one reverse activate. Much better who looking down at that ant nest, I'm realizing how tiny these little creatures really are amazing to think that each tiny aunt running around is serving a purpose cooperating with the other ants to pitch in and make sure that the colony run smoothly. If only those little cola Bob six blowed didn't to explode themselves to do it. Yeah. It's a strange wild world out there guy Roz. Anyway, you're ready to get out of here. I'm ready Mindy. Reggie. Hey, reg, ready to head home? But I I'd like to make a little pit stop on the way pit. Yeah. We could just pop into a grocery store or a place that sells snacks been like three hours since you've had a hydrated mung bean. And I was thinking that maybe we could get a bag of those. You know, you know, what the back of those exploding ants. We saw on TV earlier, wait a minute that whole episode just witnessed maybe want to eat the exploding amps. We saw that TV commercial. 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