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Best of 2019

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

3:05:14 hr | 1 year ago

Best of 2019

"WorldCom welcome welcome in your mouth to the armchair expert best of two thousand nineteen show. Yes and we should say our best of your one was in February because that was our anniversary oh our making it a just a yearly regular calendar year Besta Okay so no not the fiscal calendar or the school calendar. Exactly okay. So what does that mean. They'll be some some best of that. Were already on the best up. I don't thanks so all of them are from two thousand nine thirteen right and maybe there's a couple overlap. I can't remember member. Who knows the bottom line is it has been a phenomenal year for us so much love and thanks to everyone that listens to this show? Since I I mean really really really we love you so grateful. No but we're all incredibly incredibly lucky WABE. Monica Ni- that you guys listen for eternally grateful full. We've had so much fun going on the road this year. We've had we had so many fun shows and it was so wonderful meeting you know ultimately what do we mean Wabi while fifty thousand thousand armed Jerry's more than about that somewhere in that range just the most beautiful group of people we feel so grateful and honored that you guys like what we're talking about in relate to it and it makes us feel more connected in less alone to have you guys enjoying the same stuff we are and and We hope you love two thousand nineteen and we hope you'll stick around for two thousand twenty Monica any dream guests for two thousand twenty next year. Mindy caling ailing should come on. Donald Glover should come. Yup Yup who else a lot of Obama should come on my gosh. Yeah both of them. Michelle should come separately Barack and Michelle separately and together yes couples one and a singles. Exactly there will be like couples therapy where you I talked talk to each personality visually and then bring them in. That's right WABE. And you have a dream guest Tom Yorker think oh you even know who that is Monica now radiohead radiohead. They get it right. Yeah got it some really good solo stuff too and then Mine Brad. Pitt channing. Tatum yeah yeah boys place what are you doing. Oh here's a couple more fun ones Will Smith I just people. I follow on Instagram. That I wanNA talk to Shaquille. O'Neal would love to Wilson all these people who provide me so much joy just scanning through my instagram. We want everyone to come on. We want everyone everyone. You're invited we. I love you so much Happy New Year. Merry Christmas all the other salutations. We are brought to you by Sonos. Sonos I you just use this. In the dunes the move they have a product called move and it's adorable battery-powered smart speaker for indoor outdoor listening. Now here's what's really cool about modern. It's got true. Play right true. 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It's so convenient Vena in. It's so durable GOTO SONOS DOT COM to learn more When my favorite chapters of yours is on dyslexia because I am dyslexic? I had grown up with the knowledge that Oh yeah. You're twice as likely to go to jail if you're or be imprisoned if you're dyslexic but then and then you revealed you're also twice as likely to be a CEO. Can I is that. Roughly right with your conceptually. That is correct. So it's a curve. It's like dyslexic are overloaded at the tails of the curve. More of them in prison. More of them super high achievers whereas non-dyslexics are a normal bell curve with most of the people in the middle and I found that to be very comforting putting in wonderful as a dyslexic. In that story. You articulate what you give so happy that you're here because you talk about the stuff all the time when you are getting it probably a little wrong and so glad or get all the time but I think what I interpreted. That point was his struggles and coping mechanisms and having to strengthen other aspects are can be of great value in your life my friend David Epstein who horrendous brilliant book called range uses the phrase in his book strategic difficulty in David and Goliath. I talk about desirable difficulty. And they're both these similar similar notions of if it's too hard. It's a problem if you have too many problems. You can't get ahead and if you have no problems it's a problem right you. What you want is something that that in the course of being challenged the right amount yours forced to be resourceful? You will learn learn things in a more profound way. You will investigate your own strengths and weaknesses more aggressively. There's all kinds of good things happen from and I feel like the reason that's such such an important point. Is that a lot of people think that what preparation for excellence is is the removal of difficulty right. I I WANNA give you the very very very best endowed overly resource environment imaginable. Nichols's you don't want that you you you WanNa have something that you have to wrestle with and and I was like I don't ever want to be a dishonest or cheat or lie. You know what I mean like I want to be and I wanted to be independent so I never had to rely on a man mm-hmm because that was my father and that was what men looked like and the other issue was at my brother died when he was nine and swore to me like on our last night. You know that he was coming back and he and he's like I will never leave you with these crazy people referring to my parents. He was the oldest and I was the youngest. So we were book ends six of You. Yeah and so. He was like my first crush the Monica human hiking in the grand tetons in Jackson Hole. Right yeah and then he fell off a cliff. Oh cool that was pretty brutal and until I met this psychiatrist who I actually interviewed on my Netflix show for an episode on like early education and adolescent brain development. He explained to me that like you know when something like that happens. When you're nine years old you you get stuck you're stunted from that age because you have to wrap yourself up so you don't feel the pain? My father fell apart. My mother fell apart. Everyone just retreated into their own corners. And until somebody said you as a nine year world you you digested that as rejection. He rejected you. He went off and found another family while he cared about something. More than you value this trip weirdly more than you wasn't careful. uh-huh wasn't careful. He told me he's GonNa come back and he lied to me. So in my nine year old head that was oh you can never trust men. They will always lie to you even though I was like. It's so obvious but yet until so you do that kind of talk to someone who's a professional and studies that I didn't realize I was acting like a nine year old with regard to any men so back to what we were talking about at the beginning. How how men are fucking scared of me? I'm fucking scared of that. You know one hundred percent so it's rejection before you get rejected which is obviously like Class A.. Whatever ver- typical textbook behavior but it helps to hear it from someone that has nothing to do with your life? Because I think for me I never wanted to go to therapy and really dig it up because I thought I was too smart. That's not I know my brother died. I know I've problems but whatever it's working I'm strong I've got my shit together. I've got a career. I've got everything I wanted in my life. My friends my family Blah Blah Blah. You know to hit forty and all of a sudden what the fuck is going on. Why acting like this but it was so worthwhile to actually have a professional that you're paying that exchange burden people with problems? I want somebody to get money for it. Honor percent and I was you know a very sensitive continued to be very sensitive person and I I look back at that though and my goal was so to be liked. It's amazing how these people who are not kind to me but I so desperately wanted them to like me almost like a dog returning to its vomit. It's seen as a kind of sense like you should on me but I'm GONNA make it my goal for you like me so I became all things to whoever anybody wanted right now. It's amazing how like I haven't told this one one girl. This is so awful but she had this tragic thing. Someone died very close to her and this was new the school I wanted so bad for her to like me. I told told her my sister had died. Oh and by the way she could care less but I had to live the rest of my experience with her thinking. I had a dead waiting this. And it's like just like the the depth of that uh broken -ness of wanting her this popular girl to lay her day. How unbelievably selfish narcissistic that is to do that? To somebody but just coming. I'm from a place of like like me please. If you like me. Then they'll like me domino domino effect. I have found myself over the years not even because you and I are friends but because I recognize I feel like where it's coming from. I've always felt very defensive of you because you you've seen to trigger people. Yeah you trigger people people and it drives me bonkers. It really drives me because I think because in sobriety our main focus is really kind of isolating what our fears because because our fears are are basically driving the ship in until you understand what you're afraid of your not understand wh- course you're on right so when he sees him when that's mad at you to me it. It seems so obvious. Oh there's something about her when they look at her they feel less than which is their issue and in a sad issue a terribly sad issue for that person but there have been a couple of things over the years. You guys are so mad. She said like conscious uncoupling. That became a firestorm right. And I remember thinking why is everyone is what is going on. That's not even you didn't make up Ganges come come now it had been coined I think in the seventies and it's such a beautiful concept right. It's like you know you're staring down the barrel of a divorce your worst the worst outcome possible. Especially you know I. My parents were married till my dad died. I'm all my best friends. I've been friends with from elementary school. Middle School gone are all their parents were married. They all married like college or high school person. They're all still married. You know I just didn't come from a world where there was a lot lot of divorce and as I looked around and sort of knew we were this was happening and I thought you know I'm GonNa try to collect a little data around around how children have been impacted by divorce and again sorry to overuse the word but be intentional about avoiding those common pitfalls like what are the common common themes here that we see and the most common wound that I heard from children of divorce was my parents couldn't be in the same room and couldn't be friends and it took three years. It took eighteen years. It took you know God forbid the death of a close family member for them to sit at the same table and I just thought like I. I wonder if there's a way to circumvent that and just go to the directly to the point where we're friends and we remember what we loved about each other and constantly acknowledged that we created these two incredible human beings together. Aren't we coming our DNA. We're family that's it so we can mm pretend we're not an hate each other and you know. Drop a kid at the end of the driveway and not come in or like. Let's try to reinvent this first cells house and so I think at the time honestly I I was in a lot of pain was so difficult. If felt like such a failure to me and it it was so hard and I was so worried about my kids so then there was this whole other layer of like the world turning on us about saying being essentially. We're just want to be nice to each other and try to stay at this without a ton of wreckage. No wreckage and it was brutal. Because I already felt like I had no skin on but as as happens to me in my life and like by pattern recognition. I can see that I I think. The whole point of being Harris to try to optimize yourself as much as possible like be as accountable for your shit as possible like stretch yourself grow. Do the uncomfortable trouble thing like in the name of something bigger and more beneficial for your family or your community and sometimes I've said things things and it's been too early in the culture or whatever her and that's okay like you know of course. Sometimes I've gotten my feelings hurt but but then I I always think you know I really feel like I do things from a place of being an integrity not that. I don't make mistakes but I try. Try to align my words and my actions as closely as possible but I think at the end of the day when you really believe in what you're doing it doesn't resonate in a way that Breaks you apart because you believe in what you're doing. My wife loved you guys because at loves I learned not past tense but she I so I respect you so much. 'cause I needed this right now. Yeah I beat it that someone like you. Yeah we share this common that like my identity. He is very much her and I especially publicly right and your identity is very much you in bath. Oh Yeah so you have. The one layer of just heartbreak of losing your best friend in your wife and your partner. That's that's identity shattering gray and then you have your thing you guys are one thing and you gotta now imagine what your identity is without half of you right and that's got to be terribly frightening. Well Google you did and it says you adapt you get smarter. She used to tease me. Storming told me from the cradle from eighteen years old she I had to seize fifty one. I don't it's all those little tiny order shift at a restaurant yeah. I'm not old that I want to turn on my cellphone. And everybody's GonNa look at me especially the girls go fucking dogs get older look. He's blind or he wants is to be seen he's got a light on. How we you know and I don't know and then I'm afraid to say to Jillian? Jillian what are you waiting. So what I've I've been doing is listening to my brother David or someone at the table when he want dug a go you go first and then I fuck. I've so I'm getting better but it's like I depend on her for so much. Yeah that she you're probably not even fully aware of it until it's gone like saying you know probably probably just people especially like you you're strong and then all of a sudden you're all alone or you wake up and you go two minutes without realize she's got and then you feel like shit you feel guilty shit. This morning I got up right. The alarm went off that I sat on my fricken phones and then I'm like in the bathroom. I'm like I'm GonNa get get a shower. No I got coffee at starbucks. Everything's Okay and I'm thinking I'm thinking of all of a sudden I'm like fuck. She ate here and sorry. Because I you know it's what a terrible terrible shit what the Bible says that the last enemy that shall be whipped is death armone that fucking team when he does it. I want to be right there there. Because it is freaking hard. I had a dream a have visions and I'm she's in heaven and she looks up. My God Big Daddy's GonNa love here look at all the animals like looking rather where are they and then. She's watering. The garden. Looks exactly the same water and Isis sneak up on her boot and and she would try to sneak up on me but I'm not. You can't do it right almost every day. And so I I went boots and she turned around and laughed. He Goes Big Daddy. What took you so long and started crying? So what I've said in when I'm developing is way tease the dog without Beth I swear to God. I'm wearing a seatbelt. Top SILKROAD SYRUP NOT GETTING FRONT OF A train but I'm afraid freighted dino more And I a lot of reasons. I didn't go after certain people or go to them. Doors is that not the fear of death. But what if I leave ver- alone right right and she finds another man and he's better tour that'd be a bit. She marries the PUCK. I the more or I you know. I'm not afraid to die and it's you know. The fear is gone e hall. If it happens it happens The film Down though there's a house down there in a house down in the worker doing that brought you to. My attention is very tasty so I kind of want I want to say right now. Kind of what your work is. And then I want to go back and figure how we got there. Well what I mentioned in nine. Hi Ted talk. Was that in my role in my clinical practice. When I started this clinic in this neighborhood in San Francisco what I quickly discovered was there was an exposure that dramatically increased my patients risk of long term health problems and that we're talking about out in very high doses brain? We're talking about triple. The risk of heart disease triple the risk of lung cancer and a twenty year difference in life expectancy and so if this were some packaging chemical or or some exactly it would be like pulled off the shelves in a minute like and by the way it's not only harmful but it's something only not two thirds of our population is exposed to but it turns out that it's not packaging chemical it's childhood adversity which we would in general the layperson would just say trauma. Yeah talking about trauma right part of the reason why I use the word. Adversity rather than trauma is because I think that for a lot of people. It's so common that they almost kind of. Don't think about at US trauma right right so I let me say this research. Search the science of this Cam from a huge study from the CDC right. We trust them. Yes and Kaiser Permanente these like big well respected healthcare institutions and. They did the study in seventeen and a half thousand people and they asked them about ten categories of childhood adversity and these include physical emotional or sexual abuse Physical or emotional neglect or growing up in a household where parent aren't was mentally. Ill substance dependent incarcerated where there was parental separation or divorce or domestic violence girl. I got like seven of those. This is click through those God. Bless you drink long. So so readily and with ease without any pathology algae S.. What's going on here? Wow that is referred to his ace in my raises. Yeah adverse childhood experience. They want people to like yeah. I still haven't come working on. He was imparting the lesson to me and Mike have boundaries. Have exactly because I was feeling guilty. That always send those people away and I didn't give them enough and they were so a couple of nights later I came back the bar fairly empty and it was my last night shooting this movie and I went out with one of the the actresses and and these two guys a girl and of course like that. Go to the bar. Get my two shots and these guys sidled next. Just remember the feeling of their sounds so new agent but they had this weird energy dark energy and They said with what happened to you the other night. Mister big shot as you moved into some fancy area like Barbro and I said You know of course. I'm so they played right into my vulnerability which was I'm just like you and I said I'm so sorry it's a shot together. And they all right and they must have sense that that was my weakness because they kept coming over to our table. and Oh you guys know the big shot Mr Hollywood and so at the end of the night This is only we. We were there for a couple of hours And I was a little buzzed in. We were leaving. The is key to in the morning in Birmingham and they said. Do you want to go to a casino. We're going to a casino you know and and thank God the actress to know. I'm going to go home and that we'll go and I. I was eager to go because I love playing blackjack and I hadn't been there. I haven't been if those two Detroit casinos and I thought to in the morning kind of drunk with strangers to go so we're going to. I'm headed to the car. And they said The the DOT DOT COM townies for the sake of the story the town he said. Why don't we all take the same car Be as I said they were. You think we're going to do something the Hollywood and yeah guys. Come on with singer We got into their car there. We they dropped me off at the hotel for second to get my per diem back in hadn't seen they said we're going to be like when you're in. Your Room is any party you going no no okay no which is crazy. Okay no good question. No I'm like where's my money. You're wasting your yea shot Hollywood. Even waiting so I run out the money and they stop at their Condo Rondo They said we're GONNA make a stop. Forget why And as we were going and I remember they made a big deal about. Take you take your shoes off going. Quite a roommate that was sleeping took my shoes off. They they took out a bong and they they passed it to me and they let and I said Oh no you know I'm okay. We WanNa have my wits about me because in play. BLACKJACK are you fucking kidding. Umbro and now you're not gonNA SMOKE WITH US BROKEN MON- so go. Everything's like a huge test. Yeah you're failing out. Yeah I knew oh you are pieces. Yeah Ken Firm. Yeah of course I I take a big hit at the end of the second hits my mouth I know. The taste was kind of chemically chemically kind of clear tasting. Describe it and rip this crazy and and my mind just remember the feeling of like Lou immediately mmediately. Losing control of my my pampered. Like I wish maybe I can add step one in fact check and I couldn't my mind wasn't working. It was the strangest thing I think it was angel dust. Well I've since since told the story to people in this guy particular and private security and he thought PCP go just have the same yoga and yeah so I'm panicking and do the Google. That didn't do. The girl did okay and she looks like a demented some. I'm cartoon character. Tasmania Ren and stimpy frighteningly over the top. And I'm thinking to myself am I. Do I look like feel like that. And the guy. Why didn't he hadn't been drinking or nursing? What was he saying what? Then I passed the bond back to the to town and they were studying me kind of like an look and looking looking at each other like conspiratorially like is it working and I said are you going to smoke but I probably came out and they and they said. Nah We're straight trait. You cool. Is there that can hold a frightening. Can you probably have a hard time navigating. What's now paranoia? And what's really happy. Totally Yeah Oh Christ you probably Your spidey senses are going bonkers on gave you something that they're not doing. Yes but you're also going by me. I'm being paranoid. There's a par. Yes there's a part of me that is hoping yeah. Yeah that's the drug the drug then they keeps getting worse than they say. Let's go get Sean. Let's go wake up show. I said it's the roommate. Don't you sleeping one of them's stood up to go. Get the roommate mate. I stood up and the remaining townie started doing these karate. Kicks at my face like I can boogie nights where at crystal meth scene. Where I he just he was saying things. I will bro You. We'll sit down. Calm Down Karate kicks in my face and The the the roommate came out fully dressed wasn't sleepy mobile and he said I never said. Oh Yeah you're right. That is the guy. Let me go get my camera. This is a horror story but you you don't even have nightmares the punch fully panicking and this is before everyone had cameras with them. mm-hmm mercifully thirteen years. This is two thousand seven okay. It was two days before twelve years ago for this July. Second not that I remember. They could rescued. You would love to have a whirling dervish acid so we I convinced them to to drive me back and they were guilty the whole time like and sang things like what about do. You can't handlery. We Libro strange wilder mentioning this movie. Strange welded and we get the car. I'm in the back seat. The two as the girls next to me. The two guys are driving living there in front and they kind of whispering back and forth and they're texting somebody and and they're saying things that I could hear snippets like yeah. Yeah Okay what can we come in and they would lean back to me and say. It's our bro. We're we'RE GONNA make one more stop and that'll be it okay. Did they said they started saying okay. Strange wilderness yeah. They started saying but we make another movie you WanNa be movie for TMZ. Or Yeah. And I'm panic. And the girl. The Census the census then panics. Probably clearly and she I remember this is the worst part. She leaned forward to them and said I could hear everything with because because doing. He's freaking out. Don't do this doom doing this and they said the fact that we don't do doing this thing we got it. We got it under control and she leaned back to me and she goes. It's Okay Justin. They said they were gonNA take you home. Everything's everything's GonNa be fine. Oh and now. Now she's the girl as is the silane other. Pa there in the kidnapping movie. They're the ones who were like guys. We're not really we doing this. Are we come on right because they were locals. I didn't really know they've been working with them for two weeks and I like them but yeah I didn't really know them and so now I think I'm going to die the guy and they start saying how much money did you take off the casino. How much money you got on you? Sound like off. I almost thought I thought about giving them. But this is also my body at this point. I the idea of taking out my phone and dialing numbers. Is it impossible off each. Yeah so I'm just like I don't know what to do so I started like freaking punching the seat in front of me and the worst part was they said. They tried to mollify the Oak. Oh Okay Justin Qamdo. We're GONNA take you bad it's GonNa be okay and sure and I knew the town well enough to know they had been going in the wrong direction. And then they reverse course and they started going back to the townsend sweets. Tie Back to my hotel and and I was somewhat relieved and I remember thinking okay. Thank God they were fucking with me. They were these. WanNa see me scared or whatever and so we started going to the hotel they slow down and I'm thinking here we go and they kept going and I said what are you doing. It was back there. It's okay which is going to make one more stop that they wanted me calm. And that was the scariest apart so then I saw red light coming up and there was no one three in the morning. Yeah no one on the road. So I'm coming up to this red light and I think okay I'm going to get out and I'll just run to the and they go right through the red line. They blew the red lights stop signs they turned the corner and they go on about thirty five. I I opened the door and I jumped out of funky movie. Carl Yeah Fall Guy. Yeah Yeah but it you know and I'd seen it on TV and in the movies now you just roll you land on your feet Spiderman so I rolled and of course. I've rolled under the car and they were all over my leg them. I'm totally over my role more and I remember yeah and it should have been what the fuck but I remember thinking it was one of the happiest moments in my in life that right I remember right after I got run over I stood up in my leg was like it just bent twisted and and I remember looking down I I was. I looked down on my jeans jeans and this is a weird thought for me because I care about his little about fashion as you can and I remember looking down and seeing blood pooling like seeping out of the sides of my leg onto onto my jeans and thinking. Oh I love those genes. I ruined these fees which is so weird attachment but also filled with with the being alive and yet Lee free. And that's swing. I'll never forget and they didn't they probably they just kept fucking motoring right well. They don't want to deal with having run you over. Well I I know that at this point and I. I had seen a car coming for headlights coming. I'm hobbling toward it. Flag it down and weirdly was was a cab and I got in the cabinet. I locked the door and I said take me to the towns and tweets and remember the cabdriver. I gotta get these pants in salt water and cold water and it was like what is going and I'm not being racist. Remember what is happening but my cat. He didn't want me in there and I can only am. I must have had the craziest energy sure. PCP You broken leg been captive woman leaving room with your child and then came up. We didn't wasn't moving and the game and I'm panicking. I'm thinking what if they come after me and they start they did. The tube came up and started banging on the window. Freak the freak especially the girl was. PC beaner system was freaking out. I remember she kept saying and this is participant. Just what she said she said Repeating thought we killed a movie star although we in the guy was kind of freaked the one who had been kind of calm and he was freaking out and and and now. I'm picturing like the driver telling the story like his point of view love sober person little literally it could have been like so these dudes WanNa stop and get coney dogs the fucking just jumps out of the car. I like the thing about the cabdriver. I'm sober totally. He's probably Chili. Dogs and the way downtown in fucking long bolts. What's out of the moving car? Everything was innocent. How much money you got enough money for a dog? The worried about you you need money do you want does the spot for blige totally always all in my head so I I saw they let them out. Yes yes yes yeah. Then they probably wanted wanted to run some hair and now he's her and now you're talking about jail yeah. They must've been freaked out so I made my way back to really quick. He wasn't driving. He wasn't going anywhere he didn't want to deal with him now and I saw I got the sense then that they were saved by their react. They were they. We've seen safe at that point. Okay and I was so close though and he wants to moving so I had no real choice right so I go back. I wake up six hours later in more pain than I've ever been implied light all over the sheets and don't know boy. I made my way to a doctor. Brooklyn's Brooklyn's go right. So yeah right and then you go to the hospital. I don't okay good I went to Dr. Oh you did okay. I don't know why I was thinking about something else. I went to a doctor and he X. rated no broken bones which is crazy right such bad nerve damage that to this day I never dealt with it because a couple of days later I went through a breakup so I was dealing with like like this. Shame right sure embarrassed this woman. Yeah you're supposed to be responsible taking shape but also for me was for me team. It was so out of nowhere that I in the wake of this thing I when I was supposed to be healing the lake I just dealing with the the Shershnov and I remember the funny little like you who I had to do one of those those commercials afterwards like a week after my leg was swollen out to here to the point where they had to get special Joaquin's how the big guy hopefully stay tuned for more armchair Vicksburg if you dare. We are supported by vistaprint. Now Monica if you want to be professional you need a business card. I need a business. You really do need a business card. I want you to go to vistaprint and do it. Because listen isn't for small business owners or people who produce their own podcast being plugged in in prepared when an opportunity comes up is crucial. Those moments happen all the time. They're happening now. And having a business card that shows how professional you are in your pocket rate. A handout is the first step to making something happy. 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Dax what do you have to lose. Visit NEUM DOT com slash. Dax Start Your trial today. That's NEUM DOT com slash tax. The last weight loss program. You'll need I mean I suppose there's some in your masters in psychology. Maybe you could help me. I assume there's some kind of catharsis in watching someone else. Go up in flames for something that you you know. Now you yourself have done. I think you know there's so many different things that are at play in our online world. You know there's the online descend habitual effect effect. So where people. Because they're hiding behind a screen or behind anonymity find it easier to take on different personas. We saw the beginning of that was remember second life you know. Yeah yeah you know so I mean that was really. That was the beginning. I think of this idea of avatars of sort of okay. Let me both be this person but also be someone else be some different curated version of who I want to be right. Some projected Bruce advertisement moment for me right exactly and which in and of itself has a layer of shame connected to it right? Because there's that idea of whoever I am really am is not good good enough for sure so I think you know that's at play. I think we have people constantly. I mean just the chasm between our our real lives and curated selves online is very challenging. Anything that's where there's so much mental health issues coming in. I had this young boy say to me last week. which was he'd written an essay and I've just been turning it over in my mind ever since I read it where he was talking about actually with physical violence? That when you don't have an adult to to say to you everything's GonNa be okay. You're alone in your pain and your experience and you may lash out at someone else doing the exact same thing for the very reason so that you're not alone. Oh sure sure which was amazing to me like I had never really thought about it from that way. I mean I believe okay hurt. People hurt people all those things. Misery Loves Company really does I certainly don't want to excuse any kind of online harassment or bullying behavior but that in some ways. It's a coping mechanism for some people. Yes yeah you know. And that's where we kind of have to step back. There is no three prong easy solution. This is like the human condition. You don't need to never have meet again but we also need to stop having like a massive brick of meat at the center of every single plate that we ever. He's put in front of us. We don't need to stop flying but we do need to change. Change how we fly. I had this really really moving. Experience happened about two weeks ago. I was in Brussels as giving a reading from this book and at the end there was a signing and a couple came up to me. They open to the page where normally sign the title page and it's filled with their handwriting and this and they said well we're getting married in a couple of months and and we decided tonight that we need to have some kind of plan because we don't have a plan. We're just gonNA keep doing what we've always done. Because that's what people do you do today. What you did yesterday more or less and their plan was eat vegetarian unless served meet at friend's house eat Vegan? Two days a week Have No more than two to kids and drive no more than fifteen hundred kilometers a year in Europe and then instead of just having sign that they'd written a line that said witness they wanted me to. Oh aw that's cool and charming and it was fun to get an insight into who they are very European to yeah and then I realized Holy Shit like I was the guy on the stage. I'm the Guy Assigning the book and I don't have a plan and I went home to my hotel that night and took a piece of hotel stationery plan because I realized I'm that Schmuck who says the I'm GonNa try to fly less which means nothing that you just live like you live for like I'm going to try to drive. It means nothing nothing. It's empty and worse than empty. It's pure narcissism. They will everyone you know along. The seven seasons has been like probably just putting a bunch of really positive positive energy at you I guess yes as then. There's a big turn where I assume a lot of people are putting some negative energy out. This pays off off that I've spent my entire time of game of thrones never believing anything that I've said never taking anything that he said at any real value. Yeah really just just like my negative voice. Shouting fallout than anyone saying anything. Nice because I was always in the back of my mind I was like oh great. We're successful now. We won't be tomorrow every chance that we won't be tomorrow so for that I'm base level at Google myself at a really. There's a lot of stuff that I don't hear. And and now regardless people have very sweetly said lovely things. I've got a lot of fan theories that I've got a lot of leg. We had it my way right. Oh I'm doing different. I'm sure But I definitely the worst thing that anyone said and this was painfully close to the show. I was my mom's house which is in the countryside in Oxfordshire and I went to wait trace to get some food and it was the day after episode right. We had to say it was six episodes. Wasn't it final season. Yeah so this was. I had never seen what that looked like until I watched the green screen stuff and I was in white chose and this woman looked to me when you're brave to be outside all my and I was How I it started? Welling up all the. I didn't need that. Thanks okay but by now. I don't need any food I'm just gonNA leave with that. Was it got was the beginning middle and end of my bad experiences with regards to that the earliest thing I remember my life the earliest like the most vivid memory earlier own in my life was when my mom got raw in New York Emma pops department and I was there. I was three years old and I was there got cane. He didn't like Lamm. Mike what am I gonNA get. He walked in and he showed the price. Didn't know what it was probably sat me down hundred. CV while my mom into Wanted like the dean of the Living Room and they stayed in there and I was Allsteel Watch. TV He came to the bathroom to the bathroom while sent me right back in front of the TV and also in engulfed in whatever was going on on TV I'm a whole day for some hours ago. And he key left Al and walked out and said the keys on the pitcher of Zebra. And I didn't pay him no attention. I'm just you know watch. TV then. I remember asking him like what my mom I wanna see my mom and she was like she sleeping nowhere about it. It was like all right cool. He left I guess after my show when I got up and went in there was like she was handcuffed to a chair and would've mouth taped up an elite tied up. And so I go up there and I put the tape off a mouth and I remember this vividly. I remember I say Mama. Why are you tape Apia mouthful? If he thinks he talked too much she says shut up with help me get in here so she leaned over like imagine you you that chair but on your back if you're bound to that cheer on your back scratched over walking into the living room where I was watching TV. And there was a picture like Canada. High up on the wall of a zebra in front of an x calibre like a car was pitch of Zebra Front of Excalibur. And that was one of the pictures in my day ahead and the key to the handcuffs that she was bound to was up here on that pitcher and she couldn't get it so she's she's like get up and get their key three years old so I had to class imagine. I had to climb a three-year-old climbing on this. This chair that you're sitting going up to like the head part a regional to this TV candidate in grabbing a key and bringing it back to her helper for her Indu herself. That's three years on do you. I have a hunch you filed that in like Oh yeah. That's the building blocks that made all this thing happen. You recognize ignites a fucking incredibly traumatic experience. I wasn't scared. I never feeling I was. This is bullshit this is like I was in danger to Medica- experiences. Zombie is holding my best friend. Does he died because he was just in the shootout he got he. They still come back shooting back and forth. You know it's like that's a traumatic experience. You to me. Yes but daycare. That trauma and I recognized that accurate trump. But but. Let me tell you you're carrying the three-year-old trauma of a the reason you fucking remember it. So vividly isn't because you were unaffected by it other Shit happen that you weren't affected by you. Don't remember it raked. There's clue number one was fucking traumatic. Okay back the bill you to be in the next situation where you're holding your friend because that's the fucking level it's like I try to explain to people come enough cope for years. It's like I said Tand. Okay okay it really high level right so it took me probably five years before I could experience nine by doing something joyful in lovely because I said appended you fucking take duct tape off. MOM's face at three years old. I'm sorry whether you think so or not. I mean that said having how how about this. It's a trauma I haven't recognized. Yeah Aggregate Nasr Others. It's a trauma that I have a recognised just because I could tell you something you just go. That's life life like oh here's life on planet earth. When three people come in the house they tie up mom so this is life? You're not going. Oh poor me. I wasn't going pour me. I was like Oh wow in life. DUDES are fucking dangerous. They hit your mom and they they. It's scary right. And just that's life on planet earth but aw that isn't life on planet Earth as not. That's not it. That's not your your kids seeing. You beat up your no it not absolutely not but I feel like they are a product of the exception. Not The rule. No see telling you we did hit a pole. We know the numbers. If we let's here we talked about the time. I WanNa hear fifty percent of all boys will be physically abused. Okay all right. So that's half right so in that way where you know either or you can say I have. I haven't I haven't experienced or have I witnessed in my family. The experience of any sexual inappropriate behavior from adult adults to children or early sexually spheres of the didn't cut that didn't involve like grown people. It was me me other key is supposed to be doing chart but I don't see that with other. That's not a problem but I mean is that Kinda led it to my insatiable appetite today. That's also a level of somewhat is some kind of a seat being planted in a certain level of trauma. Well also so. I'm the same but I was molested. So in my world view your worldview where everyone gets their mom gets duct tape and three years old and my world view. Everyone's been molested hosted. I'm like yeah. That's standard operating procedure. Here on blander I can but I now recognize that is not fucking standard operating procedure. That is anything but not that needs to be avoided that as a pattern that he's does need to be avoided and does need to stop. But I feel like if you look at the barometer at at that moment in time nineteen eighty three. Okay and you do. A census of nineteen eighty three. How much of this activity was being doing in America? It's far far exceeds fifty percent. I'm sure I don't think so. I I do big to differ but is it a globe the like right now today. I know it isn't like that because we've learned more. Our experiences in evolution is human beings have led us into a better civilization. Let's call yeah. Yeah you know what I'm saying but at that time. Yeah all I'm saying is that was a different time. And the barometer of right and wrong role was fucking broken. I accept that the line on the graph is going like this right in the positive except that but also you're in a percentage of people who experience a lot of trauma okay. This is a fat. I'll agree with it. I can agree with that and I think we now know that people who have trauma have some pretty predictable shit hurt people hurt people. Okay do you have a stroke. Broke the girlfriend. I was just talking about that. We would have fights at seven eleven. She had a stroke to. How does she? She's right thirty eight and she was like Kinda getting ready and she was getting more and more confused. It was like a long period of being confused before she even put together. I think she called someone who who could recognize. Something was going on but God what of what happened to me was like a little bit more obvious that there was something wrong because I was living in Queens Zena story a AH going over to my friend's apartment to like have lunch with them or something and I had barely gotten in the door talking about how I'd taken my younger sister to Hilary Duff concert the night before that's sweet of you I remember talking about Hilary Duff in mid sentence I like look down on my right side of my body was paralyzed but I didn't realize is that my brain was like telling me the signal of like that is not your arm it is not attached to you if you're paralyzed it's not like a numbing sensation would've mentioned it to feel will numb your brain is not computing that that's your arm yeah so I was like who's arm is that and all of a sudden my arm looked very long long and like alien to me where I was just like what is that and I started like hitting my self I remember that and then like all the sudden I kind of like blacked Out For like a second and like the sound got like weird and then when I was like conscious again I couldn't speak because the blood clot was in my language center and temporal lobe and so I had expressive AF- Asia which is where I forgot language but I could understand it. I just couldn't respond. Oh Ooh so then. My friends thought I was doing a bit because I was always doing bitch like stop it. I remember putting my hands to the throat and going like. Oh I'm making a weird sound. You're right this is the worst thing that can happen to a comedian. Because everyone's assume me as we said we're interrupters pursuing. Oh here we go can interrupt this lunch. Party does hearing part is just people didn't know something was wrong with me. And then they kept going should be called an ambulance and I was conscious like. That's the weird thing about having a stroke is like you know it's happening Shar. You're watching it. Go down. which is like the weird trip? He part of it like I knew what was happening but at the same time I was like I can't talk. I don't why and they were like she. We call the ambulance and I was shaking my head yes and then appear medic Matt Scott there and they're asking me all these questions. Of course I can't answer any questions. They think anyone drugs lying. What did I take what I take in? How long long before you regained your ability to talk? I love saying certain words I would say the wrong words. They would ask me. What's less than you ate? I knew the answer was yogurt Augert but I couldn't say it so it would take a long time and then like maybe half an hour later. I'd be like yogurt. Oh my God and by that time they were like. Why do you want yogurt? And why are you saying you know. At the time I was dating someone that was like five years older than me and it was like relatively new relationship and he came to the hospital to see me and I was was twenty and the doctor was asking me how old I was the only number I remember to say was sixteen and I sixteen hundred sixteen and I was like sixteen or what is happening like you know like it was there. Were funny do things that are happening so fucked up. There's nothing scarier than your brain being brought. No I'm scared every day and like I am still bill on the kind of investigative journey of trying to figure out. What's wrong with me? Should I tell people what happened last week. Know what to me your ailment. Yeah Oh God yes absolutely embarrassing adorable. So last week I had a horrible incident that that caused me to feel like I had a brain tumor. Then I still might have okay. You come to you wake up in the morning. Wake up in the middle of the night ish and I had felt some wetness near my underpants area okay. I sure that I thought maybe I had really intense night sweat. Sometimes I get those. You didn't at any point. Think oh I started my period in the middle of the night now okay very regimented demented on my period. Right right right right okay. And but then when I started doing some investigation it was urine yawn. PPO EP a good amount of it. And you're thirty one in my bed has a thirty one year old woman. This has never happened before. This isn't isn't like I have incontinence nor even Sarah Silverman's bat past of being a late bed wetter exactly no history. I haven't peed in the bed since I was probably probably five years old or earlier than that. Yeah I also don't pee very often at all so the fact that it's uncontrollable in my sleep was Ararat Gary. Yes and accompanied with severe back pain veer. Lower back pain so of course I was like okay. Something's wrong with my kidneys news. I probably have a kidney infection right which I've had before okay the next day I text my greatest texts my friend. Alison Allison Kirksey. Shout out if you need. PT In Los Angeles. Please go see Allison Kirksey. She is the widow of. You really need it Mike just because you WANNA meet Alison. Well if they're GONNA pay her. I'm sure sure I guess you could just hang. Yeah Yeah Anyhow. She fields fields. I just want to say for the record. She feels a lot of your your call poor girl. She gets a lot of texts for me. This is happening. What do you think? And by the way she's she's very good she never makes me feel stupid. She always listens to what I have to say and then says okay. Yeah that's a little this but it's probably this I can tell she's just being really nice telling me that I'm over reacting Yup. She's also again super knowledgeable also not an internist. He can tell L. based on like symptoms of based on. What's happening if it is muscular? or She's like this doesn't organ issue. Yeah or this you need to go see the doctor Dr but she never never says she's not yet one said except on Wednesday she I I said okay. This whole half in having really really bad back pain was a one year old. She's dealing with right like when you call and he's about to have like she's pregnant she's going to deliver any any day now like I need help because also I did was texting her and she was like you know at the end like are you doing okay. And she's like like yeah. Yeah Yeah. I'm ready I'm good. And and she was like. Do you want me to come. The doctor and I was like I mean no because you might need to be going to the doctor at any moment any who she said. Yeah this is strange and I. It's definitely not consistent with Acute Muscle Hey. Hey Gray. So she was like. I do think you should go to the doctor about this. And she never says it so then I was like Oh boy okay. Great so I went. They did a urinalysis. Even though I had no p p left okay and then brought your sheets cut off a corner of it and then stuck it in that little plastic asked to go. That's my favorite joke. I tell really quick An old couple Goto the doctor an old man and a woman in the man is needs to get his physical all and he's kind of hard of hearing so they sit down and the doctor says. Okay we'll before you leave. I'm going to need a blood sample a urine sample in a fecal sample and the man says to his wife. Or what are you saying. And she goes she need underwear. Yeah that's a good news. You need your underwear okay so anyway so then. I went to the doctor the the urinalysis. There's nothing wrong with my kidneys blog. No they didn't check my brain and I also had a big abscess S. on my foot. Well hold on hold on hold on. Why did you stub your top of your foot now stub it? I would have remembered stubbing it. It appeared out of nowhere. It's clearly scrape. You scraped it on something. It was very deep in my foot and I had tubers is on my head right. And it's weird. Yeah you're not taking Ambien or anything at night okay. So you're not walking around banging into ship that you know. I think you fell out of bed early like a baby. And you hit your head and then when you got scraped your foot on the bottom of your bed and then you got back back in bed and you were confused and thought you had made it to the bathroom and then you just squirted. And then that's everything with no no brain tumor back. Pain totally were the extraneous information like on an sat test. Throw that right Allie unrelated on correllated related. Middle of the night. Yelling out your back. Yup Okay yeah all right or maybe sustained during this fall. Okay when you were half asleep I just I probably woken up by this. The crashing onto the ground right but new in straight to brain tumor or aneurysm. The delineate a little difference between You're my hypochondria Andrea. which is I have these thoughts and then I just never go to the doctor? I know that I was in pain. I'm just saying you you. You're more prone go investigate or as I whip up some crazy theory and then two weeks later I've just forgotten about it and I'm feeling normal. I guess that's true. I mean if there's if there's physical symptoms that need addressing yes. I go to the doctor but I didn't go to the neurologist like I wanted to. It was rough. Anyway that led us to have a conversation about wearing adult diapers right so I'm leaning towards this so I wake up in the middle of the night to p minimally once always that's guaranteed I'm GonNa Sometimes uh-huh twice a night and on a bad night three times and I have a very hard time falling back asleep. It takes me fifteen to thirty minutes each time. Losing an hour and a half on a bad night asleep and it's only gonNA get worse. I have older friends in for males it just gets worse and worse and worse in an in this group. We were talking about it all the males. There were experiencing nighttime pain that were over. Thirty thirty five. Yes so my thought was. Why don't I just start wearing depends undergarments in training my body to pee at night right which I do think we'll take a few weeks? I think it will basically. I'll wake up in the middle of the night. I gotTa pee go. Oh I've got my diaper on. I'll just pee. And then maybe the next time I wake up I can do it more half asleep. And eventually I'll just train myself to pee at night and my diapers and then I'll get way more sleep and I was posing the question. Why not? What do that? What's wrong with that and you were opposed to it and well for a couple of reasons wine? If Ben you're in a situation where you can't your mom is calling me. That's should I answer sure. Hello this is Monica Gaga. Yeah did you. Oh I'm sorry I got your texts and I thought I responded but I probably did not respond yet. She's in the middle of a fact check. We are recording. Yeah we we we pause to answer an important call. It's Okay Oh my God thank you. I will tell him that. Okay was I a At a whole flow going about my diaper turn to talk. Don't do it's also appropriate and I'm talking about returning diapers. Mother would call the last person who dealt with my diapers. She said he did like I feel like he's about to try to be a baby again. I had the brakes on this. I put a lot of energy to okay. So what's your objection. I had a couple one. What if you're in a situation where you are in a group setting and you can't pee but now your body's trained to pee in the middle of the night so you're definitely being the bad and there's GonNa be a stranger they're handling let's say camping okay so I'm camping being But I'm camping in a tent with strangers. Why am I doing that apocalypse? But there's plenty of reasons I can't really get into but we'll I can concede that if there's an apocalypse this was a bad idea. Okay okay also. Let's US assume though for just for shits and giggles that it's not an apocalypse you what if you just had to share a bed with like I'm now bed hopping. Let's say scarlet Johann you had to. So yeah I just tell L.. Her look I'm older appeal out. In the middle of the night it was it was cutting into my ram and now I've got this solution. It's a an adult diaper and I wear it work okay. So this this led to another conversation wouldn't be able to snuggle you why my children body's body's going to hurt her skin know her skin and she doesn't like it they're not made of burlap these are GonNa be a nice ballad I I well I might have to just make an adult one. I don't why not okay. Here's my other fight. There's no morals about being in a diaper as an adult. There is no morals. I'm talking about practicality. Why why are you WANNA get frisky in the middle of the night? That was my other thing and you said now you're not interested not at all. No forty four were married. There's no way we're getting in Frisky. What about Scarlett Johansson? This scenario I will make an exception. I'll get frisky middle of the night and I'll I'll remove my diaper and I'll do it in a very sexy man now. She doesn't like to take doodoo ill. She's Puke Gain Doodoo. I hope we interviewer we ask. Because I got hunt show she she can kink out on it. When you said that you would like it right well right so that led to another conversation because this is how it started God bless Delta? She's four. She's still in a diaper at night. Lincoln was out of a diaper at two and a half at night. This scale this bit. She loves her diaper right and I started thinking I got to get around this diaper and then I thought Oh what. If I don't get out of the diaper. What does she wears a diaper the rest of her life at night and then I just thought what if I met a super cute girl with an amazing personality? When I was in my twenties everything was perfect and then right before we went to bed she goes? Oh by the way. We're diapers when I go to sleep. I'd be like this is so cute and adorable. I'm and you're so unique and in authentic you're still wearing diapers. I would not be a barrier for me. I would love it and then we posed that question two different guys at the party. I was relieved to see Ryan Hansen. Said might even like her more Charlie a little less but could get through every ten. Charlie said he could manage through wasn't thrilled about the idea and Ryan and I were actually excited about 'cause I'm like this person. They've really thought about the rules of life that they just got put on our shoulders. They've questioned them and they realized. Is this rule. Silly that added adult can't wear diaper at night. They also that's that's a critical thing that are enough control or or commitment to to bettering themselves so that they just decided to just wear a diaper their whole life as opposed to working through an issue was judgment Judgment Laden. Your comments was they they. They're they're failing but there are a failure. No I think if you have an issue you should work through that issue. Listen judge men. There's no good thing to want out of partner. You want that out of all the people in your life. There's no working through for an old man pene in the middle of the night. 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Since I was a little kid had eight year old nine year old ten year old like I was angry forever. Do you have a theory on. Why just biochemical or do you think you were frustrated with some situation? I don't know why I was angry then but I do know. Iowa's angry in my twenties and thirties thirties. Okay and I think I was angry in my twenties and thirties because I genuinely wasn't really in touch with my own feelings emotions And Emily was the one who taught me. She's like this. Four basic emotion says anger sadness happiness and everything is a combination of all of those sadness happiness us and fewer can all be turned into anger Z. Like obviously sadness can turn into anger. Like I remember those guy who went and killed a couple like Indian people in a bar. You're two years ago. And they found out that his dad had died nine months earlier and he just was like really upset about it even like joy like you watch sports fans getting like. Yeah yeah anything. That's a great example. Yeah anything obviously. Fear can be turned into anger. We're seeing that all across our great nation. Yeah and so for me. I was getting angry because I was feeling all these things not processing them. Not Being in touch with them and it was all coming out as anger eventually the birth and I think most of the world's problems are because of men who can't feel their feelings are a significant percentage of I wouldn't they almost it's all. It's so many problems. Come from that so I really think that that sort of you know were obviously an era where we're talking about masculine. The is and the staff and I think I hope we start redefining it as people who are in touch with their feelings and can feel all these things in the eye cry almost every movie. I'm so jealous. Only happen started happening like three years ago when I realized like Oh I have to start knowing how I'm feeling all the time. Do you have a weird journey with money me but then I got breast cancer right. And what did that do well. Everything falls off everything. And you talk about a Lens. Changer So everything gets distill. Well panic fear. True fear not hereditary. Fear the movie but true fear right and then everything that is precious becomes clear and money is not in that category right rain. It's really not right except to say that you need it. Maybe maybe to fight. That's my little money lecture. Did you have breast cancer in your family. Did you have any sense that this could happen. You never been on your radar. Never you're having a routine mammograms notice something in my breasts a little sort of slight. Divet the hell's that that's so weird. Brad's like oh you slept on it. Funnier yeah I guess so right and then you went and got checked the new and then the shit hit the fan man. It was really fast fast and furious and in fact it was the we weekend of the emmys and and it Sunday night and Friday I went in and they buy up seed it and my doctor said I think you should prepare for bad news and I was like what and then we had the EMMYS. You have to go to all all those parties. I don't remember any of it now. I was just on autopilot. And then and then that night we won the show. One was all very exciting and I one you know that was so exciting and then the next morning I got the call that it was in fact cancer and I will admit you. I started howling laughing. You did I did because of the juxtaposition before in the morning it is pretty funny it. No it is it's hilarious. It is a trophy in one hand and a cancer diagnosis. Yeah out of all and so when I was a kid. My mother had a bad back. I used to believe that my mother was this close to being wheelchair-bound she used to lie on traction boards and all my back back back to come in and hit you with a belt and you push back anyway. Then she got Dr Babies and we never fucking hood at the back again okay. I just went away. Because she had a new things. He could PRI Kosovo with the needles and the nails news. Then she got Paxon's towards the end and I stopped hearing about the diabetes honey cancer white from not hearing about the partisans but in the end she just she was lodge woman and her muscles wasting away and she he kept on full and IVA and not being up to that time. So I am Lund's trips and so I kept on arguing with you go into nursing home. My Dad can't lift you up. We we have to call eminences. You need fulltime Medicare so I was paying for the nursing. I'm say they wasn't element of me and my mother arguing about the guardrail on you. Don't really we have a choice. It was that huge. I mean she never wanted to go to win. For the first month you have to share a room and the person until another room gets up and right and she goes if I have to share a room with I wanNA kill myself and I'm like this is why you have no friends you you go straight to. What is this is the best person you've ever met a friend late in life like it could be beautiful beautiful? Yeah but anyway. She said she wouldn't. She said she wouldn't go and then it came to the day she had to go right. She couldn't stand up anymore right so the aliens came to get the take time guys before our guy on the bathroom so help to the bathroom she gets onto the to ambrose. Today she stands up in a fucking shit snaps in half buying and if I can ballade piecing out the leg bones sticking at oh who breaks their leg in front of ambulance drivers mets crazy crazy right. Yeah and so. The AMMOS came into shorter full of morphine. And then she's lying there pasta and then they can't lift these Dade White Bryan. Probably two hundred ninety Japan's if dead. Why in the bathroom in the hallway? She fill out of the toilet door. Just a single toilet too and so I call another up icon. I ain't fucking leave. And then they call in the fire department so now we go to ambulances at Harvard. Probably six guys on the fine the firetruck. You're poor dad and my dad's is is blocked everywhere and he's like oh helpless feeling helpless and then like the house a little cloudy. My mom is a little bit of a hold nothing like TV show but it was a bit clouded in it They have to drag it through the hallway so they sought just throwing furniture out in the fucking straight. They like get to make way Mike why they pull out. They dragged her along. Get her into the hospital arguing. The fine call here in America and they guy MOMS Villanova. She's probably going to lay. The doctors don't think he'll get through the anesthesia. She'll probably join surgery and I'm like or I'm just preparing myself for this guy and the next night this is. This is a few months ago now. The next day that guy she came through with flying colors they've put some pins in a leg think she's she's in great shape and I was like. Oh Yeah a little bit longer They guy why is this infection that to give her antibiotics inside like all right so the infections fictions cleared up hasn't moved for a few weeks while the legs healing fluid on the lungs pneumonia right and so they put it on a bed that rocked from side to side to Cape a body moving and they guy. So we put later on more anybody's that we don't think she lived through the pneumonia and so I'm preparing to fly back to a stranger and then I get the phone call. He's nine pneumonia. Legs all good we. We can ha- and so I sat down. I had a couple of edibles and we'd finished recording the show and I said to me go for. I said ten fine for a couple of days. I went to semi defying off. That guy why the antibiotics would kill the kidneys. You had too much medication and fight the kidneys it filed. Here's my point. She never went into the nursing. I'm good for her. That was that was the one in the end she won. I'm just saying historically love it. I would prefer that they would orgasm. Well that's fine and sometimes they just don't guess what sometimes and I mean once every three years I don't and it's never a comment on the other person's performa be hard not to take it that way we come so easiest guys to be. You know knows knows what's happening behind the scenes. Did you just pull pull it. You know in the toilet an hour before because he didn't anticipate this kind of you know right. That could happen different things. You could be Heavily sedated if you're just how to surgery oh well yeah I think in that case people people are probably a lower bar true. Well I can see someone taking a personal. I probably would be very sensitive to lady who acts as me told me yesterday that I have a very thin skin and I was like. You're telling me the hold on lady. She actually was suggesting that you're Durmus was was was thin. Yeah really yeah kind of clues. Is She getting that. It's thin well short chunkier skin on that was nervous. It was like off off. What is happened down there? That made you say that. Yeah we're talking about my private parts. Sure but were being very eloquent about it delicate. She's an expert in private parts in female privates. So she's seen a lot of skin. And I guess mine's just thinner than what he's used to this her read like so she's got the wax on there and she's about won't she goes. Your skin is really thin and then like that get some Napkins it. They give that happened just before she pulled out. Well hold on hold on hold on let. Let's just warm this up and get it off me the unconventional way right. What was she saying? Unlike could rip all your skin of what no she just it was you know it was. It was actually post post wax kind of Sharon and chat and and and she was plucking she was doing some plot cost so should i. She gets in there with some wax. Oh Yeah and then she goes at it with some tweezers. Sometimes it's a mix of soft wax hard wax and wheezing. What is this like a thousand dollars since got expect sixty dollars? Okay I should say ah why you are so funny. What could be bad about the price of getting your kind of indulgent well? Do you get waxed every week week. No often you get waxed quarterly. Know Jesus for a while we already went over. You have thin skinned go ahead get. Oh you have a condition four times a year. Do you know no I could never do that. I don't know what well look at my hair on my head okay. That's a good indicator of what's going on you. You have a three foot long hair. Yeah Oh my God let it go. I do quarterly. Wow did she say if there's anything you could do to make it thicker. And why is that something that anyone would want to do down there. You'd want to have like a pachyderm. Skin pachyderm is now pachyderms. A group of animals described grabbed the San. You've got rhinoceros. hippopotamus elephants hippopotamus. Yeah they're all pachyderms real real thick skin thick skin. Yeah interesting interesting. Do you think on the playground of people. Want to be mean they would call someone impact Durham Pussy but here comes Johnny Pachyderm Pussy. I'll deep cut. I hope they're not a deep cut. Yes would would require a very deep cut to get through that pachyderm but I would be both proud of the person for being so inventive and scientific about their insult ocean. Then I would be sad. Of course 'cause it mean mean thing to say unless it was super desirable net culture. It might be super super desirable in ours. I don't know just normal skin than pachyderms below the waistline well picturing like the color of the hippos caller times thickness in one area. That seems a little off putting okay. We'll have a weird question. Can you tell the difference between thickness when you evolve your Exploit Yeah No. I couldn't. There's no way I guess whether it was like a millimeter thick or one point two millimeters. I guess you would only be able to tell if it was so thin that you could like see their insides or when you touched it a broke and then vice versa. If it was a pachyderm style that like he just didn't move you. You know it's just not malleable. It was like a leather rawhide bone or mold yellow leather mold eleven. Yeah Yeah Cool. Cool I bet. My wack cer- has seen that. She seems nervous anything. That's the middle goal. Tally pachyderm Well Monica what were seen down. Here is It's nothing to be worried about it as a push his pachyderms. And we're GONNA use a a light acidic cream slowly or gonNA thin that out. No no you won't feel a thing that the pack Durmus is is is that okay okay. Good off three and Aw you slip through my hands like I did through my dad's like a river that pass acid rock status song Brayson loan notes. What's coming Oh Ooh who is gone? now what role does sex plane relationships so huge usual and you know and and and I but I think the important thing to realize everything sex only that explained that just getting up in the morning and telling your wife that she smells good and I got you like everything is is going to impact that right of relation. It's all foreplay or play. Just you know you know I get a before Julie does usually in you know I can. I make the coffee and uh-huh empty the dishwasher and you know get stuff ready and I can look at the kitchen the way she looks at it which is very different. From the way I look at a bully I can look at now now so when she comes in you know. She doesn't go on Christ. Jesus I have to clean this all you know. CMS and so she's gone. She can walk in very sleep. Say Ready for your coffee. And she goes yeah you know and his is the coffee. Yeah so you know you're always making love. I think you're you're always connecting emotionally in some way with you mean two are not as so if you're it. I think when you do those things now you know you probably know this study that that was done. The largest study ever done on sex and the world seventy thousand people in twenty four countries. What they did was they had one question? Is there very systematic thing different about people who say they have great sex life and people say they have. They've bad sex life and is a universal. They found a dozen things that people do for great sex life. Okay people don't have guys say they don't do those things and they're simple things you would think they would be sexting. Extinct sneak social positions Yeah yeah now we're talking. They say I love you everyday and mean it Ah They give their partner compliments They have weekly romantic date. They make time for each other. They make time for for each other. They cuddle They you know even if they're watching TV together there's there on the couch holding each other express affection in public so all of these things so simple just not rocket science and for almost everybody. I mean many of us think I would never lie under oath but we also live in this country where we have these puritanical views about about sex and almost you know asking someone about their sex life under oath is almost always a perjury trap. You know it's like Jerry Seinfeld made this great joke about about during that time where he said everybody lies about sex. If people didn't lie about sex no one would have sex. I think sometimes is people. Don't remember I didn't choose to step forward to talk about this so I in fact got into trouble because I signed a false affidavit so trying to to deny that there was a layer where people didn't understand the level of detail that came out that was not my choice to share that I had to share that legally legally asked and in fact had to give even more detail because of certain ways that other people chose is to testify because everyone's trying to nail down what sexual relations means so they then feel justified in hearing every single detail of every single thing that ever happened. Is that Komo. The reality is that there was not truth told no matter what the definition of sexual relations was right the whole thing of like does this count as you does it or doesn't it doesn't matter given everything else that happened. Yes I've said before I never understood wire wire how this became about earl sex because that wasn't just what happened. I don't WanNa get into a lot of the details. I think it was a big part of shame that I ended up having to carry we for a long time as a young woman being labeled as somebody who is engaged in this servicing relationship. Mutual you're in a emotional relationship with someone for a while that is now being reduced to. This is now being examined through a lens that nobody I mean like. Maybe when you're first start dating as someone who like. Oh we've done it this many times you know. It's such a strange way to not only is when self to try to analyze something or unpack it but even more bizarre to have other people talking about something which is normally so private out very vocally locally out loud about my sexuality and stuff and I was kind of hyper sexual as don't want someone who account for everything every move. I made to take it from Um you. That's your agency. Yeah I mean and that's part of consent in a in a very different way as sort of what we choose to share about ourselves and what we choose to keep he private and with whom we share those aspects of ourselves. Well I've said since our toward break-up that Who Brooke who for Real? I don't remember why I think we just party. It was just sort of a mutual ask and we were in different places in our life. Oh you think for sure first of all very very fun very memorable wonderful experience number two when thinking about like Oh this may come up. What is my summation of it? And I guess I decided had a really only take responsibility for my stuff. That's really all I decided. I'm sure yeah. What else can anyone? Well yeah so my things probably very hard for me was I felt very less them around. You can often God. I think we all do. Yeah Yeah I think I was just in the point where I was not going to get hired for movies anymore. I had a bunch of didn't work doc. I'm like I don't fucking know what's next in you're at that time making the most you've ever made in having the most opportunity and I've felt very much like fuck. I don't know what I'm I'm doing. I'm following this person around as they do things I wish I were doing. It was just a rough period for me anyways and then I felt all kinds signs of adequacy map position. How much do I loved? Act uh-huh the honest. You know I you said something really interesting when we were dating and you're right which is like and it's funny. I just brought this up with Danny because I did something that I recalled dagger boyfriend. Danny's yeah and I did something and I went. Oh my God because Dax used to say drove him nuts is always say what but I heard him and he's like I know you heard me. I know you heard me. But you're asking me to repeat myself again and I'd be like well no I actually don't know what what you said but then I was like no I do know what he just said. I don't know why I did it the other day with Danny and I was like. Oh my God ducks and I looked at the any and and dance repeated. I go honey. Do I do that a lot. He's like Oh yeah you do it all the time and I was like. Why don't you ever tell me that I do that? And he goes because it doesn't bother for me there. We thought that's really interesting. Because and then I told a story out crazy I went straight great so when we were breaking up you talked to Chris and you Kinda give him my complaints about relationship and crystals just sounds like your personnel. The I felt but you you also said they you really wanted like a we in your life and that you felt that it was just about me why I felt like I hooked my caboose boost like a speeding locomotive which by the way where random stance called for. You had a child by didn't so that makes me infinitely more flexible. Now that I have children I see the whole thing through a different it lands and yet you had money making opportunities that you could not not take There's just a lot going on. It was like the apex of business and this timing make try. So can I ask you a question about this whole past. Yeah absolutely If you WANNA get the legal terms correct when you present it to your wife. Actually first of all I think there's an entire landscape surrounding monogamy a mental landscape that we don't know well and just like marriage has gotten a terrible wrap that that does not actually match the actual experience of a good marriage at all our understanding of how monogamy works MHM is There's no place you can go to find out what the truth of monogamy is. I mean it's a little bit like sexy. The mythology is so off that we just you don't have a good source of information which means that everybody is sort of on their own to discover the reality and then once having discovered the can't talk about it because it's at odds with what's supposed to believe it's kind of been imprisoned by religion in my mind. At least where I grew up it has a religious connotation to it. Digitally and religion is mm fraught with logically. Dishonest about yet close of that. It's like okay. We have this iconic thing which isn't right and no no middle ground between that and a belief that it's actually kind of a fiction that it's something imposed on the world by people who you know powers to wag fingers rather than something else. It is not true that monogamy is the human mating system but it is true that monogamy is a human mating system and and that it is a product of evolution where it happens so that raises the question about why evolution would ever built that system well and anthropologically speaking far more data supporting. It is the more anomaly as far as just when you look at hunting and gathering societies which. We spent the bulk of our time being. It's very rare in there. Well this again. A great example of something. We were talking about earlier. which is if you think that the evolutionary nature of a human being is all on the hardware side? Then you're right at the level of the hardware human. The vast majority of Hunter Gatherer cultures which is the vast majority of The time that human beings have existed. We're we're not monogamous. No they weren't wildly Either right but they were not monogamous. I'm on the other hand if you look at the vast majority of people on Earth today. Hey they belong to cultures. That are at least nominally monogamous. Now I have to say there's no monogamous culture that's actually perfectly monogamous and there's no creature creature that we have studied yet as far as I'm aware when we say creatures monogamous what we mean is it has a high degree of monogamy not that there's perfectly monogamous creatures anywhere we look but if we make those allowances monogamy does exist and it is not an accident. I would argue that. It is a feature of the cultures to which most of US belong. I would argue that. The reason that modernity has favored monogamy has to do with the difference between the way evolution works in what we would call zero. Some circumstances where a population isn't growing and non zero sum circumstances where population is expanding the basic fact of expansion and actually favors cultures that mate monogamously and the reason is a subtle one. We tend to think of Polygamous Cultures Shire's what might be called polygamous cultures in humans but polygamous cultures as maybe more sexual but it's not the case the thing about monogamy alchemy is that it provides mating opportunities for every able adult both male and female because everybody's pairing off because the numbers of males and females that are born tend to be similar a monogamous culture brings all adults into child rearing does is it allows population to grow at the maximum rate eight after population isn't growing that parameters favored but if your population is expanding into a new territory then how rapidly it can expand across that territory may dictate eight. How much of that territory it ends up with anyway? We have a monogamous program. It isn't the default for humans but it is encoded on this cultural side rather rather than on the hardware side. There are things that can happen. That would cause another system to be advantageous in other words. Every expanding population runs into a limit at some point at which point the mating system might change which might be exactly what we are seeing right now the FBI. You've amazing quote. I wrote it down because I liked it so much. He said affairs aren't always someone turning away from their partner towards someone else but toward a different side of themselves away from who they've become all at so you elaborate. I think it was really one of the great discoveries when I wrote the state of affairs you know it. I spent ten years about wrote to exploring work. I mean this is thousands of couples here and abroad and the one words that people would tell me when when I would talk with people who had been unfaithful who had strayed and they would say I felt a life. They didn't talk about sex particularly. They didn't have felt alive live. I feel like I had reconnected. With first of all my will because by definition when you stray you are acting selfishly in for you in for nobody and else you know And I'm not justifying thing but I understood what they were trying to tell me it the power of the transgression of having broken outside outside of their own rules and then of course you ask why. Why because many of these people had been faithful for decades these are not chronic philanderer? 's Why why would you risk losing everything for what what made you do this unwind now and that's when they began to hear line that kept coming back. It's not that I want to leave my partner. I'm actually quite happy in my relationship. You know there's lots of infidelities that have to do with the discontents of a marriage sure period but there's a whole other group of people that community. I love my life. I love my partner. We have a great family teradata and and then you know it's not that I wanted to leave the person that I am with instead. I want to leave who I had become. I was looking for parts of me that I just had lost and didn't know where they had gone. It was years years since I had felt this that wherever it was the specific I had been mother for all these years of father. A caregiver taken care of my parents. I just felt like I was trapped or like I was lifeless. That's what I mean by the erotic as an antidote to Dennis. Yes that's it that's the finishing here. And this this is what they were highlighting. Your mind goes immediately to my partner wanted that person. They wanted that person more than they wanted me. But just knowing in some cases or maybe often no the your partner wanted to part of them you know they re. That's this thing is very important because then you know what you need to do and you WanNa help the people phase one. If this happens is that I have to acknowledge that I hurt you period own yes. It's about the remorse and guilt for hurting hurting deal. The person you've got to acknowledge that case too is you ask me what was this about. And that's what I understood that the meaning of the affair or is what's at stake and not the detail and assorted facts. Because then of course it will hurt me still but it's very different because if you tell me that I can sometimes see eye to have had that feeling. I just didn't do it. I didn't give myself permission or it would never have crossed my mind to hurt you in this way. But the thought that the experience experience itself of longing of yearning affairs are about betrayal in violation of trust and they are also about longing and loss and yearning and that's much better for people to understand about their partner than to just stink. You want somebody else but me you know because the assumption is of course that people are just having a great time. No often people are having a lot of complex contradictory feelings. They feel guilty. They feel ashamed and they feel like they're having a divine intervention all at the same time. I think it'd be better if you told it. But you started. Monica became attracted to boys or at least would fantasize about about boys in the throes of a bad illness. That's not a joke okay. Most specifically like kind of a flu likes scenario we. I wish we had figured out a way to roll it out. Oh wait say there's really no way to solve says no way. Yeah it's really strange. It is and it did happen really earlier than that. I would have fantasies about kids in my. I taught preschool preschool daycare. So I would have been like six in you would fantasize that they would get sick and that you you would help them right. God it's so it's so it's so wonderful and real bill and honest in beautiful in bizarre. Yeah you can't write something like that. I've seen a couple of movies. Never never. was there a lead character. Who fantasize about helping a boy through diarrhea? It's so loving and tender generous. Oh Yeah it's it's a nurturing fantasy but there is some turn that gets that gets brought brought in. Yeah so I've of course made her walk through this meticulous detail with me in. Generally it starts with nurturing like oh brandon. You're like rubbing his back I assume maybe you touch his hair. Tell me like what are the steps. They're like what you're saying if you were helping someone who is sick out child. Yeah just a child loved one yes a sex object. So you're sure it's okay. Everyone throws thinking he feel really uncomfortable comfortable talking and then in a certain point and then really quick because I know this is another part of it but I don't know if they are intertwined is crying. That's a a big one. Yeah that's a big normally not crying while they're sick. I don't think I have too much. That's a lot. Yeah it's one or the other. I did really love when I would see `boy cry. Yeah okay so really. It's just the through line is vulnerability. I really was attracted to vulnerability in wanting to be there for someone when they were vulnerable title. And I guess I did not have an outlet for that and so it was getting like really displaced at misplaced Marriages and then you had a friend. Ray Elias Biased who was best friends beyond? She was my my soul mate. My human okay yeah. She got diagnosed with terminal. Some pancreatic congrats and liver cancer. Okay yeah in. From the moment she was diagnosed. Something shifted is that they're saying yeah. I loved Raya more than I have ever loved anyone or anything and she was this like Glamour Butch Lesbian Rock and roll. Of course she was four junkie. You know you gotTa love addicts and to help you look for in ads. When I met her she'd been so for years but she had been a major speed bull? Heroin Win Junkie and lower east side in the eighties. From Detroit. Born in Syria moved Michigan as a kid to the hairdressers filmmaker. She was a writer. She was just the most dynamic dynamic cries I've never I've met all sorts of people I've never met anyone with more charisma. She's a weather system coming and and she was vital to my life and we became best friends. But that word never even really worked. I I always just called her my person. She was the most important person I'd ever ever known I could not do life without her in the first phone call in any crisis the first phone call with anything. Great report safest. I've ever felt in my life with whenever it was in the room. It just felt like she's got it and if I don't know what to do she will and she had this and this quality she was very tough and very street. Smart she'd lived in Tents Sibling Tompkins Square Park and rikers. Island's she'd been in Bellevue. She lived every kind of life that there is that adage. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger longer and with most people isn't true what doesn't kill them really with Ray? It was actually true that what had killed her had indeed made her stronger and had also made her kinder under she had this infinite parity for mercy because she had truly been a horrible person when she got clean had to go beg so many people for forgiveness fitness and many of them forgave her and she was so humbled her was so broken in the most beautiful way by the amount of forgiveness that she was on. The receiving end of the general policy was to withhold mercy from nobody well at the same time having immaculate boundaries. It's not like anybody could ever run over says she. She was this incredible powerful combination of very strong very forceful. You're never gonNA manipulator. And she would never throw anybody away so this sense of safety in her presence was incredible and on the day that I found doubt that she had terminal pancreatic and liver cancer massive tumors in Oliver Organ that she was GonNa die. The bottom just fell into my life like this is the one human being in the world. I cannot live without end within a couple of weeks of that I it just became abundantly clear to me that I had just never called that relationship by what it really was which is is this. Is the person who I love this. This is the person I'm in love with the minute I I knew I'd just had to change my entire life. Well so we had this great moment. I'm an here throughout Michael. Hang one of my favorite human beings ever. His Mom left his dad for a woman and he goes well. Let me just be really clear. My mom will tell you you. She's not gay. Mary's Gay Hell her partner but she just fell in love with Mary. She doesn't like just like all women. She shrank fell in love of with Mary. Yeah Rayo is gay and I was in love with Raya. Yeah so unique and interesting night. I'm proud of you for being open enough. It didn't cross awesome with your mind. That was never the issue. You know what I mean like that was there was so many bigger fish to fry during that time than what's People's sexual identities right now now. I was just desperately in love with her but again I'm saying it's it's aspirational VAT like I am in such a solidified compartment in my own head. I love many of my friends. I'm very touchy with my friends. Yeah I don't know that I would be open to that. I was in love with one of my male friends. You know that you haven't haven't been probably them love them. But you probably haven't been ever question whether I have a governor on my throttle bet has just weekly I think about era weekly all day long I have since I was twelve years old. I love him so much. I have a connection to him on a cellular level and we used to snuggle when we were kids. We never did anything sexual but I just I loved him in a way that is very unique and I do wonder if I had different parameters in my brain if I'd be like no no I like Aaron live together live in adopt kids. I just wonder well. There's also there's also just this feeling that I had I mean I saw a vision in that it was just dreadful. I mean everything was dreadful. Seeing a rail this world was dreadful. You know like like it would be. In a post apocalyptic landscape it would just be like how on earth I supposed to live in this world without this person but I also what I saw was you know I knew I would be her character. I mean I I knew I was going to be the person to take care of. I knew I was drop everything in my. I already had the second. That phone call came. It was like nothing else in the world matters to me except taking care of. We're doing this. What I saw was a vision of her moment of death and I knew I would be there for that? I was and and I saw that like a premonition of it and I saw me holding her hand in her dying and her leaving this world never having known what what what she was to me never having known that she was the love of my life and me letting her go without her ever knowing that it just felt like my soul was appalled by. Hi that vision. Yeah that would be a tragedy. It was appalling. It was appalling. Yeah and so it really liked. That could not be allowed to happen. Yeah I know it just couldn't be allowed to happen and and the really the moment that I saw that then it was just now everything must change change and and did instantly and that didn't happen she died and I was holding her hand and she knew exactly how she was. She knew exactly what she was. Nice to me and to many other people too by the way who were there. Everyone's desire in a dream scenario is to be looking at the people they love the most and certainly when I think about if I get to stay at my daughter's when that happens I feel like I will be so happy and grateful. Yeah what you might not know is that it might be even and more important for them to be looking at you and you die then to be looking at them as you might not be conscious but like there's something about the need to be with the beloved at that moment is is very primal and the promise that I had made and and her ex wife and her ex girlfriend we were all. There was Mitterrand's funeral you will the exact. She was such a Mac. Daddy surrounded by hot blondes. When she died she but it the promise that was made? was you know we we will walk with you right to the edge of the river and we had to for our own hearts. So the post apocalyptic landscape that I had anticipated would be a rail. This world has not actually come to fruition. And I think it's because I shifted shifted the story so dramatically to that. I got to love her and that she got to know that love and that I'm really proud of us. So you started looking at givers and takers. And then there's also a mix of those two right and you've found in in workforce's in cultures of companies that you have these different groups the people that you've labeled givers or takers and then there's a third one would natcher's the matches. Yes so tell us about givers and takers. Because I'm really curious as I was listening to explain. Explain it I gotta say I have no idea where I fall. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah Link Monica I okay so explain what a giver than. What a taker is okay? So for first of all these are styles of interaction that we all mix and match throughout the course of our days in our lives But when I think about your style I think about what's your default so wouldn't when you're interacting with most of the people most of the time are you asking. What can I do for you Orientation Are you trying trying to figure out. What can you do for me which is more of a taking mindset or are you saying well you know can we can we trade favors and I'll do something for you if you do something for me and that that would be being no matter and of course we all have moments of each but you I think we all also know people who are pretty consistently trying to to add value versus verses extract value from their relationships? Yeah so that's what I was trying to get up and you are also saying one is not better than the other like. Obviously we all think being takers bad. I mean I at least do well. But you know I think more specifically you're approaching it from the angle that he was open to the notion that a taker might be better for a business that the outcome of the study. Yeah obviously morally prefer that there aren't any shakers world you'll you. You said. On on that hypothesis hoping the givers are ultimately beneficial to an organization but year open to the notion that the data might not support that Monica. Would you agree that taxes pretty agreeable as opposed the disagreeable. No I think really when you were talking about. When you're talking about givers and takers? I don't know if I'm a giver taker but when I know Greeleyville totally disagreeable why do you say. I don't buy at all every time I've listened to your show. I hear off the charts agreeable so I know well I agree that I do not think you're taker at all. Okay I'm not sure but no. I don't think I do not think you are but I do think your disagreement. I think I'm disagree. I do too. Yeah why well definitely what you say about getting energy out of a debate. He has vote. Do attitude but wait a minute that that's something a little different so intellectual debate Very different print from actually genuinely disliking. Someone okay yes I never okay. You dislike presenting and if I don't agree with them and also seem to hate the idea of being disliked to of course yet. One of the hallmarks have agreeable. And and as we've gotten more anxious about What our identity is because we have all this freedom? We're so now kind of expecting another human being to help us define that maybe more than ever before. That's right that's exactly. I called relationships as religion Yes yes it's because religion us to give you these things before. Now it's your partner. Did define you tell people were expecting from our partner. Now because it's it's a great list I would start with first. We expect what we always expected. So what we wanted was a companion and some economic support and Someone to have a family with children with and social status. Because you were definitely different if you were in a family or not in a family right. That's what we want now we still want all of that And on top of it I definitely need you to be my best friend. uh-huh and I need you to be my trusted confidante and I need you to be my passionate love your intellectual equal and I need you to be my co parent and I need. I need you to be my soul mate and I need you to help me become the best version of myself Tall order through them to yes. The mind you. The other person's barely got their own shit together and they're going to somehow add all this value to your life. Yes but we still need all those things. Yeah but I would argue. That's an inside job. My own personal take on it I say. Is We ask one person to give us. What once an entire village exactly at a community? Yeah Yeah Yeah. Relationship is essential but it is one relationship in the middle of other very important significant relationship. You could aggregate those other things. But that's up to everyone to agree upon. It can't just be the one person to say I'm going to outsource these things they need. Your partner has to get on board with that because if you say okay I don't need this person to be my intellectual equal so John is going to be my intellectual. I'm going to spend some time with John because he's giving bring me this. That partner needs to K with that I am much jealous. CRM welcoming that helped me out. Yeah I think yeah you have to be confidence because you see that you just outlined model. What does it mean? I'm jealous about that or I I. It means that the minute you need to anything elsewhere. It means I'm not enough. The exact becomes a measure. That's your identity question becomes a measure of my sufficiency of my of my adequacy and so it is a becomes a crisis of identity. Because you want to see yourself as indispensible and unique Andy replaceable and everything. You'll feel safe. Valued value valued worthy to identity model of relationship. If it's one person for everything the moment you not everything you have a crisis of identity. The that's the logic of this model. The model that has to change one person all right. Well well Julia. Louis drivers drive US crazy Julia Julia. Louis drive US crazy with your talent what are your takeaway observations of that interview. First of all you loved it because you like like me worshiper lover but did you have any takeaways thoughts about me during that. I just want to own some stuff. This isn't to clap. Let me on the shoulders take because my own self. Critique is very desperate for her to like me I mean a really. He really wanted her to like me could. Did I feel needy at all during that little bit no. I don't think you're needy but you were too much don't know no. I knew that you were trying to get her approval right but I don't think she didn't necessarily you. Were flirting pretty hard. I I know nailed you so quickly the very beginning by listening to two minutes of welfare you give the same compliments to everybody. Don't they have a lot Yeah 'cause we started this debate a couple episodes ago and it keeps cycling back to it. I think there's like have you thought about it since wait wet vague. Well we talked about falling in love and I ranked myself on the scale baton love addict and zero and I keep kind of cycling through that that debate. I think that's a good juicy realm. Yeah I think there's case there there is as I've been moving through life. I'll recognize when people have that appetite or whatever it is. I've been aware of it since we had that debate. Mostly self reflection going. Oh what I felt like. You were accusing accusing me. of Or insinuating was that I just love. Everyone which I don't think is true. In fact you were saying that you said you could fall fall in love with anybody. You said that out of yes not to say that I have though I guess what I thought maybe was. The implication was that it wasn't sincere and then I was like no you know what I am very enthusiastic about a lot of people. I really enjoy like rob mcilhenny. Yeah I really enjoy enhancing. I enjoy Joy Aaron Weekly. There's a lot of people I really wild about. And then I'm like my phony but I I'm not I have true feelings Gobert Wyoming feelings. I don't think you're a phony and I hope that's not how you took it. I guess it is. I'm sorry if you took it that way so it's my fault how I take things you can tell me what you know. Oh no here we go again but I think when you say things like my favorite person on the planet and then you've said that about out like forty people. It doesn't feel phony but it feels like of that phrase to you just doesn't mean what it means to me I. I say that about one person. If I'm saying my favorite person on the planet will just by the structure of the sentence yes yes it implies one person by you and I agree on the notion that Mindy killing suggested which is it's a T.. Friend is a tear tear which I love a bat and for me. Favorite person in the world is a tier. Okay okay I always say I don't know okay all right and it's fine you're also doing it for effect and so I get that as someone who you might say that you're definitely my favorite person in the world. Yes so feels feels less special and it feels like. Oh that doesn't really mean any thing hand well but hold on. Can I make for myself. I I believe leave. that a phony would be someone like rob. mcilhenny is my favorite person in the world. And then I go around saying I tell him that when I see him but then when he texts me iceman take two days later. I respond to him or if he asked me for a favor I ignore it or I do feel proud of the fact that anyone feel that way about I am there. I'm absolve eligible for everyone I love. Of course it's not like I'm just saying and then my actions don't match that they do. You're not phony. No one is saying that we know that all all those people you're saying that about you love intensely It's literally just a a syntax thing and it's just a WHO cares. It's just everyone's different right. I just I don't use phrasing like I'm very exclusive limited edition about use superlatives superlatives. Right right. Yeah we're stingy superbly very but what's funny is like. I think you really like that about you. As you should about me that you love so many people boom and you feel that way about a lot of thing you like that about yourself but you should just tell you one thing for me in singular reason to be alive. The only thing that's giving me joy now they don't do drugs or drink. Yeah is interacting with the people. I love that too and I get a ton of joy from the people people around me but I don't think every one of those people is my favorite person on the earth. I still love them and I love spending time with them. But do you think it's a part of our Americanism that there's it's like everything we're obsessed with Dass it's like the thing to strive for would just be a universal kind of unbridled joy in love for one another remiss but again. It's not like I'm like that person is not my favorite person on the planet. So I'm not going to hang out with. That can have fun with that. But I'm not gonNA love them like it's a different the thing anyway. What my point was you like that about you? And that's great. I like the thing about I do. I like that. People are reserved served in different areas of sort of specialness. It's all good. It's all valid. It's just there's a difference in view people The WAY UH-HUH EH UTAH. Then you go A sitting on I lost my virginity in a three way. These poor mother mother fuckers poor straight guys and let's pause to consider for a second. Why Women Won't do what game I was about to say? Long time ago where they sent attractive young women out on a college campus just to approach at random college guys and offer to have anonymous sex with them right right that minute and ninety eight percent of the guys were like okay and then there's no threat to men out to ask women on the college candidate random and they were all like and so what the researchers said was men are more promiscuous women are more family monogamy oriented and they did that study again Iran and Germany. Just a few years ago and controlled for Violence Slut Shaming Zach rape and they did it with computers and they sat women and men down and they showed them pictures and they he told them these are attractive strangers. They're down the hall. They would like to have sex with you right now. No one will ever know you will not be harmed. There will be no violence and women were as likely early to say yes as man. Yeah so all those straight guys out there and I've encountered so many in my life who are jealous that it's easier for gay guys has to get laid. It is if you wanted to be easier for you to get laid. Make the world safer for women the one little ass slut shaming phenomena that that women are at least fifty percent responsible. Driving is just about to say that it's on everybody to change. Not just men and women slut shame I I would say almost more than men and a lot of ways. So it's on everybody. We all gotta work on it and my dad just for backstory. My Dad is Harvey Siegel and he just like in the race. Car Built New Jersey New Jersey Motorsport Park and the I r really importantly VR because he really like develop that from the ground up. It was a it was built in the seventies and famous it's in the seventies and then it kind of like was left to nothing derelict. And then my dad came in with love and says like that's his real like soulful. It was sacked. Act duckie's of race tracks. Do you remember that chain studies. It was all along the eastern seaboard. Nine Nice seventy-five sort of nest. What is that well? It was mostly like a truck stop type restaurant like cracker barrel. I guess date come and go jerk slapping suck But whatever an actual okay. Well I saw for the first time like a month ago. Where were we were in Bentonville? Arkansas synced it's not only is it you you know. Well it's kate still. We came up with some really funny word remember. We renamed it while we were there. They were spraying. Stay or come and go a worse. Brain stays up the street if you must be a little more time. They're you go straight up unacceptable. It's unacceptable it's primarily in the Bible belt to ironically. Oh they added the cake AAC. 'cause it's the south well that's that's another conversation monotype have hey in front of everything. Yeah they like for their anytime. You could be replaced by K.. Hey you bet. It's GonNa take uneasy and replacing it with the Z but with the with the historic Klux Klan Connotation. But I kind of I blue right up every places like one case. Shy of crispy cream is k. k.. They're almost any love crispy cream together. Yeah Ah when you go down South Man. It is all calorie. Yeah any we love the south again so anecdotal of two meetings but it did seem to be a pretty consistent. Division between many of the women seem to be what is maybe referred to Moore's love addicts. It's really an addiction to fantasy isn't it. Yeah which is associative. Okay explain in how we all go into fantasy. I mean you're driving home right. You're thinking about something you're managing your weekend. You get home. You don't know how you got there all right. So we all are mildly bleed dissociating all the time yes. Fantasy is more of moderate to severe depending on the person where you're living in a bubble which is even language they a using sa where you're not really present or in reality so you see somebody all of a sudden you're like Oh my God. I wonder what it would be like to marry that person. And order what he's thinking and where he's going and should drive by his house and arrange to meet him and it can get really stock. Hurry also because it's a one person Ersan system. I'm having this experience in my own head and I've never even talked to that person or I have and they've been kind of lukewarm but I didn't notice it in that state. Are People Apple assigning emotional states to it so oh when I'm with him in we live in this House I prepare dinner. I'm GonNa feel this way and you can actually even feel that way while in the fantasy. What's right because imagination is very powerful and how we create our reality so yeah? Yeah Esther said that Proust's said Ah love is a product of the imagination. Not the other person something like that was really good which is really. That's Love Addiction. At its height I would not have the goal of convincing. Everyone listening there a sex addict but I think it would be helpful sue because we all kind of have some barometer of what substance abuse looks like. Yeah I think. Sex Addiction is far more closeted than it is alcohol. IT IS A. It's easier to hide. I suppose it is. Yeah then you probably don't know no. You're not aware that you're doing that. You're using all these mechanisms. Control a Lotta Times. They're not aware until they keep hitting a wall like they can't get into into a relationship or sustain one that's the main thing and the thing that they're doing is no longer fun or pleasurable or doesn't give them the same high as starts to feel it depressing. There's despair can't stop doing it because they don't know what else to do. And that's because of the adaptive nature of it. You just keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. Yes and you can't not do it because you don't know what else to do unless somebody intervenes on it. And that's the power of fellowship and a power of a program. What is the attraction to working with domestic abuse? I'm a survivor myself. And it wasn't until very recently that I I really came to terms with everything was even able to identify what had happened when it happens. It's very complicated and You Lie to yourself. You're being lied to you being Goslett. You're in a dangerous situation. You're you give us a sense of self and a sense of of reality because you're stuck in this nightmare for awhile. Yeah people jump right to. Oh you're physically abused. How could that have happened right? Yes they don't realise visors generally like eight really strong steps in route to their. Does that happened. You precursors are Kelly thing I did watch it and I related a lot to him and I was really glad that we were having a lot of those conversations because there's a lot of ways that you can be abused that aren't physical right and there's a lot of Really complicated ways that somebody can in control you can prevent you from leaving a situation without ever having to restrain. Yeah that we don't really talk about. It's always like if somebody hits you just leave you know and what they don't talk about is the person that hit you somebody that you love very much for a long time. It's been very nice and very charismatic. and very sweet. And you've seen this amazing side to them and you don't want to believe that's who they are and it progressively it gets worse you know. It's not something that just sort of you think it's an anomaly. And they're certainly than apologizing like crazy best version of themselves and then you're walking on eggshells to prevent another incident and then there's tension building and then there's another explosion and then you start the cycle over again and because of all these misconceptions about what what to milot domestic violence is and what it looks like. There's so much victim blaming. Yeah it's it's scary. It's scary to come forward with that. So in the Art Kelly L. E. example his pattern was starts by. Call Me Daddy when we're having sex. I am what else we'll call you. Whatever the fuck she wants that helps her great chicken little whatever really okay? I'll call you daddy so that starts and then you're getting familiar with that too. Is You call me all the time. Not when we're having sex but now I'm always daddy and then it was. I want you to wear these certain outfits. And you're Kinda like well I want my partner to be attracted to me now all of a sudden. You're calling them all the time. You're worrying all these minutes. I don't want you to talk around my friends tonight. You're not allowed to talk. And then it's you gotta ask me when you're going to go to the bathroom when you're gonNA eat when you're going to drink and I was like Oh. This is far more complicated than he likes young women. There's like back a lot of different gears in that transmission. Yeah he sounds like he might be an actual psychopath and definitely has the God complex is definitely narcissistic artistic but that is that is how it starts and how it can get so complicated and were you able to find sympathy for him at all while watching that no no I. I understand that he may have had a very rough childhood heart of the tragedy but a lot of people get abused and don't abuse other people people It definitely raises a lot of questions but I think as a survivor and the responsibility that we have. I think that he should definitely only be prosecuted. Yeah so let me say I think he's a monster yes I think he's totally monster anything. He's ruined a bunch of people's lives if all that stuff is true. I actually don't know that I don't WanNa get sued by anyone but assuming that documentary was an accurate portrayal yet. He has guys fucking monster. Yeah there was a little part of my brain going. What's kind of like an S.? T. D. you're like mad at the person that gives you enough city but someone gave that personality like everyone's a victim violence virus that spreads from person into person and that is why it is so sad and you know a lot of abusers that beat their wives or their intimate partners grew up in domestic vence households in either saw family member being beaten or were beaten themselves. And this is why it's a cycle And this is why we have to put things into to place especially prevention and education. So that people know how to prevent it. There were a lot of things that happen to me that I had no idea about. I was so young. I didn't know the things to look for. I didn't I didn't know that I was being abused. I thought I was with a very complicated person that I was being strong and I think it was filling any romantic fantasy see of yours about being an acid nancy relationship one hundred percent but that was in the beginning it was very like its meaning you against the world man yeah tasks and no I wanna understand this and then you feel like you are a part of something really special and they make you feel really special make you feel like they need you and Oh you know much like what they'd spoke about in the documentary they usually share something very personal with you that makes them vulnerable and you go oh okay I see where this comes from and it's not your fault and and so I'm going to excuse this writer and then from there it gets worse and worse you know last night when I was falling asleep I thought of something that I did a dynamic that I created with a man that if it was the other way around would have been very clearly not okay okay right I'm sure he wouldn't mind advisors named with easy comedian and he's he he did stand up he writes now now he's he's very successful great guy and I had such sexual prowess I was very confident and he was very kind of shy hi and and he gave me a ride somewhere and I was talking very sexually explicit him you know and it was it felt like power. You're remembering this last night and I was talking about sex and orgasms and this and that and I think there's apartment got off on making him uncomfortable and then he said will when I come I come a lot. Oh Oh me up and we I laugh but it was in. I am shut me down. Sound like it was brilliant because I was feeling so powerful in the power was coming from making him uncomfortable and then he made me uncomfortable uncomfortable in this as he did it. I mean I'm an audit yeah poker. We collect coming over the top on the bet raising. I see that now fucking double that raise go great card so yeah. I was hoping you'd folded does not but anyway the point being that I thought wow if that was the other way around we would we be very familiar with what that is and why it's wrong and I thought Oh my goodness I should call Chuck Martin. ooh On the phone. But you know it's interesting because these things aren't tit for tat that because we live in a patriarch link and so that guy had the confidence to come over the top you know he just eight league from the site he lives and he's like I can always fight back back I would no I guess no I mean like what I what he said. I am fully supportive of it and I wish I could remember the things I was saying but yeah I it was. Yeah Yeah present I was I was I was using my power to degrade him in a way. I think you're your own. I'm just to as as feeling power in this in this world. I think yeah to justify it I should say your name. I had this friend trend in middle school and her last name was kanoute. San Malo dairy product with the can you d you like the cottage cheese Knudsen cottage cheese. I don't know about that. But it was kanoute sin and her and my mom was like no. It's it's that KS silent and I was like no. She knows her name. How arrogant of you to think you know? I didn't say that but I probably said something worse. I but how arrogant view to think you know somebody else's name better than them like Riyan arena. Is that a big one. Yeah she pronounces it Reihana and that is the sex giraffe. Yes she browser named Brianna. Yes because it's any Goddamn I'm national. Climb up that Draft Highness I. I'm Gordon haunches. I was mixed between launches launches first permission to do that. But yeah I would never mount someone's hindquarters without some up consent consent. Be that physical physical or verbal or whatever right you know we talk on here like people ask who are hall passes when you Chris are well documented and I never really have an answer her okay so she's putting her on the list all right this extra f. Don't I don't think that's fine. I don't think it is a drag is a majestic you know. She's got a along she's got long torso. Nah I know. I shouldn't be calling women naming them after animals feel so complimentary Henry. Is that anyone that knows rhianna. Ask Her if she finds a complementary to be called the sex giraffe. What have we found out that? Or let's say Zach Braff you found out referred to you as the sex Chinchilla. I hate that sad. Yeah what when you want to just be saying anything no see. That's the difference breakdown. Teach me you're seeing her as simply a sexual object. A sexual animal actually not search person. She's a person not a core sexual animal super talented person key hewing. I'm not no there's one oh by the way. It doesn't feel comfortable always to have to think all these men are seeing you purely purely as a sexual being. We're just talking about all pass right now. So it's really wouldn't you want sex in front of any name right. No not sex. Route is earn animal though that you would like to be called sex blank now I just mean it's not all that uncomfortable for a woman to feel like every single man on earth wants to have sex with her because that's dangerous. There's sort of danger there from our getting a genuine conversation. Now would you do not want people that you like to think of you. Sexy in sexual people that I like non every person on the street. No I don't WanNa be walking on the street and a guy sitting on the curb to thank that or to see my body and think that so I'm complimenting myself I guess I'm maybe I'm arrogant at this moment but I I give myself enough credit. That Riano would like knowing that I'm sexually attracted to her okay. Do you think she would want to. I don't know I don't know a her opinion is no. I'm just wondering if if you would hearken I guess I don't know how she would feel about you just calling her that I don't know she might love it she might i. Don't you might hate it Rehana. If if you don't like it I'll never say it again. If you like it I will say it a lot. Yeah Yeah and does all this support this kind of notion that there is a approach for kids there seems to be a little bit of a desire for people to create the perfect kind of person. Kid Yeah and what I argue. Sometimes that no and this is again a Do framing it another way too. I often get frustrated with the Republicans and Democrats that they actually think that if the whole country was either Democratic or Republican that that would be a perfect country trey and I argue. No we totally need each other to reach some rational middle ground. So doesn't the world needs Steve Jobs and mother Theresa. Isn't that what this world requires for us to function. Don't we need some asshole selfish other fucker. Miguel doubts okay telling US OH okay Steve Jobs if he you were less of an asshole would even kicked out of his own company in the mid nineteen eighties. How much more could apple have done between eighty five and ninety seven? Maybe we steve jobs needed to go off and take a different perspective and refreshes thinking maybe he needed to evolve and become a little bit more mature and a little bit less nasty Actually I talked to Walter is in about this. So he viewed what two hundred people who were closely with jobs knew him well the guy who wrote the black and he said the most consistent theme was people. Oh said Steve Jobs could have been kinder That it would have cost him nothing to show more respect to other people and they would have worked that much harder for him because as they felt like he was giving them credit they felt like they were valued and loved. You know and I think that when people say well you know Steve Jobs look at all the success achieved but he was an asshole. I would say yeah. He achieved a lot of that success. Not because he was an asshole but in spite of his ass Hillary in insistence dynamics. There's a term Equa finality. ooh which is clunky but it means many routes to the same end okay and in any complex system by definition as Equa final. All right. You're you're in a MES as opposed to a tunnel okay and so if you think about okay well one way to be you know to have extremely high standards is to be a tyrant. But that's not the only quick and I think we all have lots of degrees of freedom to say okay. What are the different ways that I could achieve this goal and I would love to see more people say all right? You shouldn't title. Is Steve Jobs. You should realize a specific value or a specific skill or behavior that he had and I think his if he had a superpower it was clearly obsess I mean he was obsessed with perfection they have probably the highest standards of anybody in his industry and so great. Let's take that and now let's figure out all the different ways then. We can make those standards reality in in our own. Lives my favorite things you've done and I have a lot of favorite movies a year but my favorite things are like I was at a fucking Lakers game. One time. Look over. If you've not been to the Lakers game there's like six or eight guys in red vast. I'm not sure what they do. But they're at the corner of the court the guy the guy I mean red jackets. Yeah what does that even mean. I'm not sure what they're doing but enure I'm like looking over my mother. fucker looks so much like Will Ferrell. He must get that a lot and I'm like no that is will ferrell on honey this. How did that one come about that? Was that outfit was a gift. All of Cornwall. Of course Chris Henchi. We had a stretch of time where we give each other really weird birthday gifts. They gave me a full regulation staples center. I have no idea but head to toe the pants. The tie the red jacket own my goodness and I opened it up. I didn't laugh Oh my God what you don't like it. I'm like no I love it so much. The problem is going to actually really have to wear. It will be a complete failure so it took me like that whole season. Okay and Dan. How do I do this because I don't want if I wear it in? They might go. Where did you get that from right right? I didn't know how they would handle it so I so choice. Knock in the jacket. Oh four this whole plan and you just normal seats at sea we happen to have courtside seats. Okay and Chris and she came with me a- and he's like okay so here if I get tackled to the ground what do we do. I'll just be there with if if I get s out. We had all this contingency and so I was like I got butterflies. I feel like I'm GonNa throw up and have everything ready to go. Just have to put the clip on tie and the jacket and we're like okay next next break next time out. We're going for it so I just threw it on and just got up and just stood the way those guys stand with my back to the court looking at the crowd yes and then they're just became this ripple of like all of us starting to realize that will who is that guy your same. Yeah yes I started to try to get out on the court. Sure go to the guy's credit who was closest to me he was like I just can't have you. Aw He's lea he's trying not to laugh. Told don't laugh at stuff right. And he's you know permission for no. Oh God bless you of that that makes me so happy and so he just said just like you. Just please. Don't stay on the court. I'm a great so I just stood on the baseline. Yeah just super serious. Yeah and then. I'm looking around and I can see. They must have been talking to each other. Because I can see the red coat guys kind of ring the court yes and they're they're all nail of the ear and looking around or putting their finger to their ear where is he. People are probably consulting like a book in the office. Yeah like what. What's our moves Mussa? I sit back down and then I'll get a tap on the shoulder and I noticed that shock was there too I was like. Oh he's he's sitting down way over in the corner. I get a tap on the shoulder and I was in. This guy comes up like hey. I'M BOB LA. I'm buddies with shack. He thinks it's hilarious he. He's he's getting ready to leave. Oh do you want to throw him out of the game. Oh yes that's great. Yes so the next commercial official break. This thing just starts writing. I stand up and but I kinda shift over and I keep looking over at shack and keep motion like hey knock it off a- and he plays along beautifully while he's an actor yeah he starts to throw hands up. Like what am I doing and we do this whole little little play. Where like that's it? Come with me and I asked him out. And he's so large so large too large and he's cracking up. Oh and then the head of security comes parties owners like the guys loved it. You made their week. That just came up so naturally we we have a story to tell oh boy. We interviewed someone. Yesterday I'll add that. It was a pretty female. I feel like that compounds. How's it for me and eaten these new bars you know? I'm generally mostly Paleo. And so they fit into that uh-huh zone pounded like two or three of those bars in the morning and then throughout the whole interview I found that I was getting very gashes and I was really holding them. Obviously you weren't a small space. Its own discomfort Blah Blah Blah and. Pour me we go outside to take the photograph as we do at the end of the interview and it was a great interview the unit was Relief Fund and we got along with her really well there and then we're taking the pictures and WABC changed his focal length at one point ours is aperture or something and I was about to comment on that and Reynoso about to speak up. I did up a real loud far. I mean it came out of nowhere I had no warning. It was as big of a surprise to me as it was to Wabe Wab and they were woman is longer than that was. Yeah you're more objective than me. You do what you think. Oh all known as I am. I'M GONNA push back a little bit because maybe that length was correct. But you're sounded good far. It was his his wet and mine was no way that anyone I needed to go. Check myself four wipe wiper changed my Miandi drier than that but but I can see that it might have been that length and that volume. It was so loud ooh Monica had had. You had a run to an audition in this one hour break. We have did so. I miss this moment you Mrs Moment and there was no missing if you were within. Twelve twelve or fifteen feet of us. You heard that I was driving. I need someone is far back and it was so obvious and unavoidable that I just go Oh my God afford it. I'm sorry and I can't believe that happened. God bless her she was like. Oh Oh my God I love that you clearly just being nice to me because we you and I really really hammered this out last night. What are the different levels that go on yes? Well that's fine. If she said she thought it was funny and then we were playing this game like hypothetical. What if we had a Scarlett Johansson on and she suited during the pictures right? I said You'd like that and you're right like I I I was like no but then I really put myself in that situation Indiaia. Yeah I what I decided was I was I would either be neutral of it or even maybe thinking it was cute. Yeah but I would also be overcome with the codependent pendant. Of course second hand embarrassment and I know she's feeling and I would take that on. I agree so harbor cool. This Gal was yesterday. She had to have been like. Oh my God. He's so embarrassed. Now I've got a comfort. This is like the race comfort people who are all judging for being racist. That's different you fart. And you couldn't help it. I I did not know everyone was a passenger in this far. It's a mixture of feeling embiid. Like oh no. He's embarrassed but but also the probably the mirror neurons like. Oh if that's what it is the mirror neurons. Even if you think it's cute you go right to how you would feel and you'd feel terrible herbal. Yeah Oh all I want the feeling feeling that I find to be the most relaxing feeling like that. I would rather get instead of a massage or something like that. Is someone like scratching my head and in here play nizing senior head coach. Or I'm using your arm but that to me is absolutely absolutely like Pavlovian kind of like our down. You aurea in calmness ugly. Yes so Monica was on a trip with with her girlfriends to Denver two weekends ago or something great so I was texting with Monica while she was in Denver and she goes. Hey gotta run about to do hair playing Liam massage with what was the frenzy. Gina who hair play massage and I thought to myself like I know Monica really well the sound sexual actual sounds. I'll be honest. That sounds like a porn category. You could click on on a porn search engine if such a thing where to exist which I can only only assume it does not all invent it. Yeah happy to it says so much hair play and massage. Is that something that you gina or like. Hey before before we go out later. Should we airplane massage now. So we've been friends since sixth grade and remember how it started. But at some point we started during sleepovers giving each other massages and then playing with each other's hair and taking turns doing this back. Keep telling this I know you're rushing rushing through just like slower and like let's just throw some sort of music Yeah so we would do that. And then we just have continued to do that for the rest of our lives and because it's night it's before bed again. That's when most sexual activity happening happening right before bed but the thing about it too is if you don't start that in sixth grade like you and I may become close like I like you already. We just could develop into something. There'll be no point in our future. I go you you do some airplay before we go to bed after massage with us before we go to bed day by the way it was like a two hour ordeal you guys do for how do you how do you let me ask you. I've I've real question question. How do you stay awake so long I would think you would just like whoever goes I? I would think the person would just fall asleep within ten minutes. That'd be so unethical. Ethical for the other person the property you have to. I would need to go. I let me just say that I would have to go. I in this scenario a second. You like to the last one to receive. We'll know right. Yeah I want I would want to receive less. It's not unlike oral sex with your partner. It's best for you to do it. I over win. No not even get it over with your warning. So you're you're really horny in so over with and it might turn now me me me me. You're enjoying it as the giver. Because you're so horny. Yes but if you get it I in you have an orgasm. You're Kinda like you're thinking about what's on TV right. Oh absolutely I turn off all the lights there. When is it April fifteenth? We filed taxes. Would you be opposed to like next. It's time you guys do this and sincere. Yeah just a little bit for instagram or just for like for us. We know how to do. It just started takes chain. What's Eh what's that look like? A real true. I do son impressions but I'm not. Let's get right into oneself. I mean we take the long walk there but let's just say that your your friends with Rob Schneider at least your your acquaintances with. I know who he is. Okay you've seen him in a movie. Okay all right Rob Schneider. Yeah didn't move the Silvester Stallone. Call judge DREDD. Yeah that's right in the movie. He Rob told this story to me and Schneider tells us three goes a day one. Stallone comes up to me because you up. I got a great idea at the end. All right I'm gonNA look at you. Say You can look at me and you say you are the law so it was like Is this almost say. Who are you looking? Give Megan say you are good enough so rob immediately goes to the director goes. Hey Dude slides coming out me day. One UNSEE this shitty line like you're the law. I'm like what the Fuck is Rob Rob Rob Today's Day. One win filming that for like like months. Sliwa absolutely forget it. Don't worry about it. It's over four months later down the road. Oh he's got him penned up because I don't see the line rob and the loss for sly. I don't I don't know if I want to say to skirt girl I am is one and so I learned into the row that goes mountain. I look too early beyond I look in A hard and hoping mazzone Danza. Lead me the right way you Homo things going through you know thing. I don't WanNa do you. You don't know lax at tell myself you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know the dream in Lugano Things. I'm Resona you don't know as come to loan. You don't know you don't know you you don't know you know you don't you don't know you know here's an insane idea. Used the side of your body. That doesn't have a microphone in front of it. So here's what we're going to get to kind of a tragic part of the story and it Disney story. This is where the parents would go on a sailing trip. They would not return yeah. Her appearance appearance returns. Hold on to oversold that. Okay so you like to boil out. There was a boy. You had a crush on sixth grade and what was his name he might okay. Let's give them a pseudonym. Fabio sure okay. Should I say his name. Chris Pine His name and I don't think anything came of him. You're getting the last laugh in new. We're pretty sure he liked you right it. Yes so yes so Chris. Pine was very good friends with two of my very good friends and so there was a lot of mutual hanging out in these other friends. Were going out going steady. We were at the pool. One day is kind of already structured as a double date in the sense right because one's a couple and you guys are circling each other gamecocks. Yeah and he and I a friend pulled Chris Pine aside and said Hey. Why don't you ask Monica to your girlfriend? And he was like well. Well I would but her parents work at dairy queen which. I don't know if this makes sense to me when I heard it because Michigan teenagers ran dairy dairy Queen Right. I mean I'm talking. Eleven year olds. I was just back home with my daughter and a fucking preview bess. V was running Mary Queen. So when you heard that you thought I was saying like her parents are children writes. What's yes they're immature erases? Count the money running the establishment now now but in in Georgia. There was a stereotype that only Indians endzone dairy queens. One Dairy Queen of an Indian family ran it. Well it'd be safe to assume that all the other dairy queens were around that way. I mean you can't blame anyone. You see one dairy Queen Green run by Indians running all the during that is six logic. Yeah Anyway yes so so. He was saying saying that he couldn't ask me to be his girlfriend. Because my parents were Indian uh-huh in fact shock was a civil engineer. Mom was a computer programmer. Yes they it did not work at Dairy Queen Mother. Dating someone with two parents doing something better than that. Let me just tell you right now. There's no way yeah shit. The bed as you pointed out when we are promoting chips like Erica Erica started was the first Latino Lee on TV. Show right yeah in your childhood where you're like wait a minute one dude looks like me is on TV. Yeah well then. That's in seventy nine. I mean the seventy-nine which is Kinda late you know but you still and then you end what Edwards James Almost see. That was my guy. Edward James Olmos like I was happy that and that's why like I. I changed any of the of the names into a Latin name. Even if it doesn't start out that way characters characters that I play because I'm like I think maybe it will inspire some kids fire some people that are Latin. But when you did crash cash up to that point you played like gang banger number one gang banger. Number two gang three he working your way. It's totally true. Probably a gang number five working your way number one goals change and then you're like fuck this man. I want. That guy always gets a gang leader. We know you get competitive at whatever level. You're at your really fucking gang leader. Dude I'm going to start working out Bro and I'm like I'm GonNa fuck up that NYPD. Blue Dude I'm like I'M GONNA I'M GONNA work on my New York accent. They don't like then I'd call. My mom was like I gotTa Gang Leader. She's like Oh my and then I I I remember I made a I was like you know what if I'm going to play gangbangers a Mike. I don't know if I want to be an actor so I started playing music and then also there's a couple of things I'm like and then if I'm GonNa play an a a gang banger I'm gonNA. I'm going to apply all this. You know all the teachings are studying adding that I was doing for like Sanford. Meisner this acting technique and I'm GONNA play like a real person right and the first time that I did that crash right. Well I think crash was kind of a real revelation for a lot of people. I think that answer testament to both you and probably Paul Haggis that it was you took this really generic trope of the La gang shaved head right and then you saw. Oh this guy has a kid and all. This guy loves His kid like like it was really. I thought it was really powerful and I think right up to that point. Maybe I missed some movies along the way. But it seemed like Latino characters were largely filling the same role. That black folks always had in the sixties and seventies like. Oh they're going to be the drug addict in the criminal all these things and that performance even though starting with that premise of you being a gang banger and stuff like transcended that in a way that I think I think shifted the whole thing. I think there's a lot of different roles gene written now and I think that's one of the first big starting points for it. Did it did change. I mean it changed my career and I think that right now the generation that we're living in is awesome. And you know what do you remember the breakdowns. Yo Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. I couldn't even believe it. I still have some of them. Where is really quick when they make a movie or a TV show they send out a breakdown to all the casting directors they're listing the characters and what they're looking for a brief description of of of what what they are? Yeah so you're like oh I could play this guy Basically like I. I'd say eight would be Caucasian. Only be caulk Asian Caucasian occasion. You're like And then and then oddly enough like number nine would be like African American name but all right and then it wouldn't be until like fifteen that it would say open to other ethnicities so the best I could do is fifteenth place right back in the day and so that way. That's why I was like I don't know if this acting thing is gonNA work out. I'm still going to do for the rest of my life but I just not. I might not have the type of success that I want want to have. Because I don't think it's out there for me. You wrote in your book that you are grateful that you don't have boys because there's a conversation conversation that you would not want to have with boys so when I said I was grateful boy was the idea of having to have the conversation that my mom had with me when I was like ten. Now that your ten in your black boy you're basically a man so your mother sat you down. She said listen. You're ten years old but that's not what happened with thing. I remember. We went to in Boston. Where the racism is as we nick therapy and Tang? We go to like a like kind of drugstore where I would go to buy Crack Magazine and Candy Bar. I'm at the age where I live close enough where I might go out by myself to do it. And so she's like when you come into a store like this. You have to make sure that you only touch things that you're going to actually buy you. Don't shop with your hands. You don't pick things up and put them down. You have to touch things you actually want and these guys looking at us. That's the store detective. He's GonNa follow you around the store. He's looking over like me me. I just happened to be standing here. He's GonNa follow you around the store. Be Aware where your hands are at all times and when you walk out make sure you've paid for everything. Don't accidentally take something because it could end up badly for you right in. What is your when you hear that? Do you think this is bullshit or do you go. Oh this is just life on a planet earth. There's a little bit like my mom's making a big deal out of nothing and then when I was fifteen I was literally like thrown out of a record store because I'd been hanging out too long and they just were tired of seeing me in there. Well in their defense you also were buying a creed album. That's true that's true but just you know you go to these places that people live a lot better better than we do. And and It's true even Carolina in India It's it's amazing when you look at what is possible and what we could reasonably early adopt into our own lives here. It's not that hard some of it. I mean we love the home run. We love the touchdown. We love the big play Shar but sometimes you ignore the little as they can can have a huge huge impact on your life. Is there one thing you would say that everyone should be doing daily. That would help within these long term affects ax. I I I'll I'll I'll I'll give you because there's like a million of them right but one. Is I think just when you think about your diet. This isn't necessarily about being Vegan or not being vegan but but eliminating and processed foods and added sugar. I mean I people say this all the time but when you look at countries where they have far less heart disease diabetes far less this dementia. It's the Diet is such a big part of it there. Then I'll tell you in this is gonNA sound a little squishy around the edges but there's a lot of other countries like ours right. They eat the same foods foods they had the same economic challenges. They've had the same labor force and immigration issues and yet they continue to increase life expectancy and we continue to go down and I think it's it's places that have really invested in the social fabric of a place where people found their tribes. Like you said earlier you have your people and I think in the the states you know. It's become this sort of rugged individualism that has become the mantra and loneliness. Social isolation is a really toxic thing. They asked WanNa hear how you guys met. Oh you want to start there because I remember in detail and I'll own all my own bags in it. Where where where did we actually meet? We were in a vehicle. I picked you up when I was dating kate. We picked you and Shawn up from a very small airfield old in Muskoka in some area on -Tario Canada and we I can tell you verbatim what was said in the car I got very triggered. I'm dyslexic as you know. I carry around a lot of baggage that people don't think I'm smart and I said at one point while I was driving you were in the backseat with Shauna. I go on a bit of a Di Wire and you're in the back seat in you go you mean a diy. Here do it yourself over and I immediately was like who the fuck is this. This guy's thinks he's so smart. And you point. Yeah I got I got I was like Oh my well I I use so that and then the fact that I was in Monica's fulltime. I'm John Correcting might say incorrectly. It's a fulltime job for me. You're like a joke when a dyslexic meats like that's not even even commentary that was pure compulsion like win a dyslexic meets nosy. That's fantastic and then we aw. We saw bear cub in the road. We were driving an ice stopped and you were saying the mother is going to be to the left or right. The mothers always around like you started going into some bear knowledge and I was like I was on the verge of going. There's a baby bear and let's just enjoy a baby on the look out for the month. It's a baby bear. Let me add in again. Let me own all my own baggage. I'm already dating someone. I feel less than around. Quite often and Nelson has arrived his even higher than that and then he pointed out that I didn't say something correctly. So I'm in a pretty pretty big less than tailspin at this point and then we go on this boat you put yourself a whole sean and I talk about it later because I want to add the color in the UN. Shana were friendly. The in fact what I'd it's like. Oh who are we you know hanging out with my friend Dax he so great talk funniest people and she was like and you you guys will get on like crazy A. He's actually a prime mythologised and I was like new. BFF Are you kidding taxes. A machine gone on going to geek out on these things and I was all I was all lay bile with like new male friend because I never I in my experience was and this just shows you like you stay who you are because I went through so much of my life feeling isolated did not hated but just unseen you know what I mean. War literally the kid who's driving around in the Ford escort trying to find the party based on the flow flow of cars. You know what I mean told me where the party and and I never ever felt in with any any tribe any any any anything. So I'm like I'm driving around alone. Listening to the Smiths Smith and springsteen and the clash and go going get Outta howdy here like I gotta I gotta get anywhere where someone is like. Come on come play with US right. Yeah or even likes the same things I like but in my head because Ah when when we met you got set up to me as literally like this. This person's all the things unlike great and then I I started acting really Alpha and and I thought again I I went to I have I have not rated like I just I just have not rated No boating no boating. I'M NOT GONNA learn to ride a motorcycle on this hang so I ended up and it's like we both did but I was sort of like maybe Kenny G. will take me flying. It's not what I was hoping. It's not the cool Koshien I was is looking for but I'll take it okay. So here's one of my theories all right. You're a very hard worker now whether you want to downplay it and say that because you're from on the east coast or not. I think that's Horse Shit. I think we'd all agree. Also you said something to me very interesting. I don't think I'm always say betraying your confidence these. Do you have a swimming pool. You've never been and I really haven't no right into an eighty nine to fix the lights and I fixed the light and once it it was alive what it is. 'cause I get to the my house in Beverly Hills which was foolish and I will walk to the pool and I hear that Boston Voice. What he's kind of had shit pool all you got nothing to do? You got nothing broken around. What's the fix was? Sit in the pool where you're going to do when you're in the pool now with now you wet now what do you do that. Let's get to the reason the I there must be something something I can do. Besides sit in the No. I don't I can't yeah no I haven't gone and But the thing I really want to say about you is in your group of friends that you are the hub of and we are all spokes. There's about forty of us. I think Christmas party has at least forty people out of maybe fifty. Yeah I think so over the last eleven years if I had if I had a list hundred most joyous times of my last decade sixty of those things are at your house. I don't think you'll ever understand the value in warmth and love that you add all of our lives. It's incredible my most happy joy filled and I'm doing the right thing moments or at your house. It's the most beautiful place to be. I feel so great for that. Kristie introduced me to you. You're like one of my whole life you've given me like a whole life outside of this group of friends I came in with 'em so grateful for it and I hope I'm like ninety years old with you big brother and I love you so much. We feel the same way about you and you give guys have so many people's lives meaning. Gosh it's really generous and I'm really really off. Great great phone. I know Monica is too and you WANNA concur. Monica now I think you stole the show the Monica Monica and I'm so happy for you that you found this base with Dax and you have this. It's amazing as it. Should we bring our private parts together. All maybe you should see. I oops C.. C. ABC's career AH

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Mindy Kaling, Kumail Nanjiani, Mike Birbiglia, Bo Burnham

Stand-Up w/ Chris Distefano

43:21 min | 1 year ago

Mindy Kaling, Kumail Nanjiani, Mike Birbiglia, Bo Burnham

"You're listening to comedy central. I was at the movies <hes> <hes> yesterday and before the movie started they had this long ad bad where there are trying to say like you know those ads where it's like don't download things illegally etc and the way they did is they were like back. You wouldn't steal a purse would you. You wouldn't think of stealing a car and i was thinking about it as watching it. I was like you know what i would steal a car. If it was as easy as like touching the car and then thirty seconds later i owned the car the and like i would steal a car by stealing the car the person who owned the car car. They got to keep the car and steel car. If <hes> no one had ever met uh-huh ever bought a car before that was kaeling from comedy death ray in two thousand seven sustained up at christmas stuff for knowing the cowboys. What a cute little show. We have what a cute show today comedy central. We changed her name from comedy central khloe to g._d._p. Gaels khloe gals autocratic not here so instead. We have a jar of honey honey. How are you doing today. <hes> love first of all. Your boy has a huge crush on mindy caling married probably or whatever i'm sure she is but <hes> i'm sure i've always loved mindy kelly even if she wasn't she's. I'm probably not her type but i've always loved mindy mindy kaeling yeah and i didn't know she did could stand up but just listening to her. She obviously knew she was hilarious genius but i didn't know that you ever did stand up so that was like a cute little surprised to find out well. I think she'd like a lot of like performance former stuff like her. Matt ban was like her first show. Okay she did in new york which like about <hes> <hes> ben affleck and matt that damon who if you if you could hear someone who pose a question if you could strap on a dildo while you cancer in a dildo if possible would you shop at a deal don't and bang out matt damon i or ben affleck i but i have to do both just okay. You know what actually yeah. I implies yeah. You have to accession of you have to do both. So who are you going to. Who are you doing. I and why matt damon out of the way and then move onto cute little benny you got it. I would if i was going to if one of them was going to bang me in the ass. I prefer both at the same time but if i had to go one by one i definitely would say mattamy tame. I okay because i feel like a little bit more gentle and then i would just let ben affleck fucking ravaged. I would try and seduce ben affleck nick and then go into his pocket and take out his phone and get jennifer garner's phone number call her. That's my scheme jennifer garner if you could bump posts with jennifer garner would you bumpers is the scientific term <hes> yeah. What's the what's the the game movie that she's in <hes>. I dunno no love simon. She's that's her. She's the mom in that movie and it made me cry so much. She does a little impromptu. Seen all you gays out there checking gig only yes <hes> so that's michaela from comedy death ray <hes> comedy the three album which was a show that ran for a while and which later became comedy bang bang who scott arkham and now the podcast and and comedy death ray that album was recorded <hes> a during a twelve hour fourth anniversary show twelve hours so that what we just turned was from a twelve hour show yeah that's sick. I was the longest show you've ever done like been apart or long as set. I've ever done both both. The longest set i've ever done. I would say is probably like seventy minutes. I don't believe in like a standard yeah our yeah i don't believe in in the whole like to our shows or i feel like it's it becomes about more about the comedian and the ego of the comedian they wanna stay on stage for all those hours as opposed to the enjoyment of the audience so i feel like you know people who wanna do these two hour sets. It's it's about them not about the audience and <hes> i you know it's just my school thought i don't everybody's got a different opinion on it but dave chapelle set like a record for like the longest set or something like that. You do like six hours at the comedy cellar one tonight yeah you're right at six o'clock in the morning and the laugh factory for six hours. Seven minutes believe that guy could just keep fucking icon. He can do whatever the hell he wants but i just think about like the wait staff. I'm like some of these. You know. It's not you union rules. They're not getting paid aid and their families and shit. I mean that's not his problem but still it's like you know. Come on guy. You gotta do six hours to six o'clock in the morning. Add more drinks. Thanks to the minimum. Stop serving alcohol at some point. I think like legal actually no. You don't not new york but people don't i mean people can't keep drinking. You know i yeah yeah i don't know. Did you do this weekend. Was your birthday interest for your birthday now. I had one beer last night alone on my website. <hes> that's really on your left sat on a couch one beer alone one beer alone is fine. It's not you're not an alcoholic or not like down. You know it gives you a little buzz and i'm thirty five now. Beers go downs smooth now. It's a little nervous like i can just drink talking ice cold beer now like a god damn american man and i just i i was a little nervous yesterday. I was like wow this is going down like easy yeah so i love light beer. So oh yeah i get what you're saying. It's like water. I drink some icelandic beer. Last night had a viking helmet on the front of it and i was like that's my birthday. It was good though a love for you <hes> here for this yeah here for this wig. I want to chicago this weekend to show zanies comedy club. <hes> i mean just one of the best comedy clubs in the whole country show sold out by like buying that city chicago is such an amazing city. Thank you to all the fans that came out. I mean i can't explain to have you been there in a call no okay. I have yet to meet the being well what we're going to do yet. Get to flip the palm. Lil little uncle gay chrissy right here is going to his next comedy central our special in chicago and in your come in a wet. Do your come in a way. Is that confirmed that it's going to be there or are you just like you can them and i'm doing a second spanish as the people are lovely peeps at commonsense. I texted them. This weekend was like. Can we do it at chicago and they were like <hes> yeah why they were like we can and that's i'm like hell because here's the thing i feel like chicago. I was going to do it in boston. Mad love to boston man. Love love love to boston what eddie too but i did a half hour special there. I go there a lot. Do my our special in new york the first one size thirty eight waist on comedy central comedy central <hes>. I just wanted to do it in a new city. That like kind of has the same mindset as new york like the things that i talk about blue collar people face puerto ricans you know living in close proximity to each other chicago has that chicago has like a huge puerto rico population. They will punch people in the face and everybody lives in apartment buildings so i i feel like it's you're right. It's me similar to new york and i felt like it was like a parallel universe for these people that don't see me that much but they're laughing offing out my sentiments in my comedy and i thought it was perfect mcgraff so i won't do my absolute proof meager absolu- wow that's great yeah man i feel her. I mean they've obviously a very classic comedy scene like improv basis of like that but i am a lot of incomers now cargo also not not that there was ever not but i feel like i've been noticing a lot more recently so i think with stand up like a a thing to think about. Is you know obviously people always like oh live in new york or l._a. Right but then there's these other cities hog. Oh there are other your other. American cities okay actually new york and l._a. Or just like little islands off the coast of real america america in the middle red white and blue new york and l._a. Never just like make believe places elites but call still you're not a part of <hes> we record in ohio but chicago's one of those cities because in new york you can start out doing stand up and get lost in the shuffle because there's so how many people here in l._a. You know people wanna be like movie stars and stuff and takes a while sometimes to get from open mic to open mic but bolton's great chicago is one of those perfect scenes where it's a smaller seen that new york but just as competitive so you can as comedian starting out get ahead in chicago and then moved to one of the coastal cities. It's an option. I think the key and and i was you know comedians coming out to the shows to support. Don't come on come on my show here. Come on my show there. It's like you can run around and do all these different spots when <music> like chicago daily. It's also if you could start in a different city would you. Would you be interested to start like you think you're said it would be different. If you started like in well cog ah go or i think l._a. Or something i think the thing is with being born and raised in new york. It's like if you're if you're born raised new york then you should start new york because like right feel like like new york. That new york vibe is kind of like universal. Almost it's like you can make a movie about new york and like people just understand what make a movie about detroit like you have to explain detroit troy te which is both it's cool for different reasons so i feel like new york is just like universal. So you know starting there. I think was that was like my. I i like quotes break. <hes> was just being born and raised in new york. So i just do is take the train stops to pursue my dream and if it didn't work out and my whole support system behind me so people that leave their home like what you didn't call v. brave to leave your home of los angeles to come to new york city to pursue. Your dream in life is v. brave. Thank you so much. People call me brave people. They look at me and they say that's pretty woman. I went raw going to chicago last week. Outbreak brave life now that that's why you're special. That's what you want your special there because there's girl there yet because i have to do it exactly nine months because she's <music>. Thanks <hes> okay so now. Let's play we have a kumail nanjiani clip about birthday parties then because as your birthday and then also mike big leah clip close your ears for this next story. I had other like scary stuff like this happened happening. I was ten. My brother was six. My parents make you do you want. You don't want to do my dad's friends. Kid was having a birthday and we didn't want to go. This kid was annoying. He was a bully. We didn't want to go on my dad's bad news. You have to go. That's as far as guide so we have because because we get to this book pakistan and we were all in pakistan. I don't know why i started like that. That would have been horrible if we weren't and he was like bad news. It's not the birthdays and pakistan. Here's your ticket. Make your own way back. See you again. Never never see you again. The birthday and for some reason on the stereo they're playing a knockoff pakistani version of the birthday song and the song goes exactly like this. I swear the song goes happy birthday. Thank you very much happy. Pay very much which happy but it does the lyrics that's and you think it's a horrible do not know when two people one w happy budder. Oh thank you very much but it's one voice so it's one crazy guy alone in a room wishing himself a happy birthday into a mirror and then thanking himself as surprised is every time happy buddy. Thank you very much. I'm glad someone remembered. Let's go kill everybody now back. Okay most birthdays and pakistan. A monkey shows up doc all right the fact that you just accepted that is racist it but it also does happen but the fact that it make sense to you that you guys were like oh your pakistan monkeys at their birthdays racist. You guys are accurate racist but this is true most birdies in pakistan. The entertainment is that a monkey shows up with his trainer under god yeah he doesn't show up on it doesn't just drive over we have laws monkey showed up with this trainer guy and they put on a little don't show and it is a fucking great show you guys it is. That's a good show. The monkey has like little monkey bike. Monkey rights just like a little money his but wiggles because he's like. I keep the tail out of the spokes. It has learned through experience a little monkey on a bike. He has a little hat that he wears a hat that he wears he walks around like a proper gentleman like he walks around like that his legs out just to hack yeah and if he sees a a woman he's like oh. Hello lady recognize this just like off which i'm sure he was taught to do through a lot of violence. You can't just convince a monkey to walk like that. You have to hit it. If it walks any other way day and then it knows this how i must walk so that the pain doesn't come great show worth all the monkey torture torture and i've seen the show many times many yeah. It's not just one awesome monkey. This is what we're good at. Many shows many different monkeys for some reason. The monkeys name was always loom master which translates to master of potatoes rados which is like a pakistani saying. We're not going around calling each other that like dude. You are such a master of potatoes guys a player. Oh hi to women. I'm kidding drink you. We don't have drinks but read this. This birthday and no monkey shows up and we're all complaining. What kind of birthday is this does not even a monkey. We've all thought that right what kind of days it's not even a monkey happy birthday. Thank you very much happy but it thank you very much playing over and over burrow into our skulls happy but thank you very much happy but then suddenly the music stops and this guy shows up and in one hand he's got a sack and he pulls out a cobra the other hand. He's got a cage and he pulls out a mongoose which is like a giant ferret and he says these are going to fight for. You and we're like back. Yes they are yes they they are this is the best birthday of all time we all get an circle. Who's gonna win the snake. The mongoose who cares we win high five. They've we get an a circle by the way there is no fancy between us and the combatants so whatever wins is coming for us next. We don't even consider that streetfighter. You know he's going to get the one guy we go. Three ron's weed cake aac water day. We get an a circle. We're all cheering at the top of our lungs one hand but they get one hand in the air cheering top of our lives. Imagine little pakistani losing their minds. The fight starts like forty seconds and it becomes very clear that this cobras. I was gonna lose. The fight lasts fifteen minutes as parts of the snake are ripped off by the mongooses teeth yeah in the beginning. We're around here in the last ten minutes. Everybody watches completely silently. The snake is ripped to shreds. There's a two year old. Kid watch watch again. He's not even crying. I didn't cry for a year after that. There's blood everywhere. Nobody's making eye contact alabaster would never allowed this to happen. Even the grownups are walking around. We've made a huge mistake think after fifteen after fifteen of the longest minutes of my life just like hat cutting into our throats just like watch fifteen of the longest minutes of my life. The mongoose ribs the snakes whole head off yeah which what if you had that move that should have been moved number one. Why are you taking so long. Our souls are shrinking the snake's head off and that's when the snake stops fighting back and they'd lays there completely still headless covered in blood and i remember for the the first time in my life i remember thinking disguises said his birthday. He's getting older. The snake just died someday. I'm going to die the worst fucking birthday happy birthday. Thank you very much much. This is the first time i remember sleep walking talking. I always had dreams about wild animals when i was a kid. When i was a kid i had this recurring dream for years that there was a bear walking in the front door of of my house. It's literally opening the front door. Which is the scariest part when you think about it a bear with opposable thumbs because if a bear are can open a door sky's the limit. I don't have a plan for that one. My plan was the door in the dream. I would hide in the kitchen cupboard advert with my sister patty and it's pitch black and scared to death and i opened up the door cracked to let in some light i looked next to me and patty is gone and and she's been replaced by the bear he doesn't kill anybody gives me kind of a koi jack nicholson look like will i kill you and that's when i wake up i had that dream for years and then eventually tempted to face there's lifelong fear patty and and i went to alaska we went to this place called cap may national park which is one of these places that has so many bears that when you arrive take you to what's called bayer orientation and they teach you and it seems counter intuitive but if you ever see a bear walking towards you you're actually supposed to clap and make the bear aware of your presence. It's like i'm right here. I'm right here. You're okay with it when they you told me this as the o. murdered by bear because that seems like based on yourself and barbecue sauce. I'm right here <music>. I'm right here and i taste fantastic. I've applied condominium so that i'll be less land padding. I went fly fishing. I don't know if you've never tried this but it's much more difficult than it looks in a river runs through it deep in water. We're in the rubber pants in their sam and jumping out of the water in front of us literally jumping which i would do if i were a fish as seems like a great field trip you know you're in the boring water all day and all of a sudden you're like ooh i wanna stay here and grow legs and become a humid which is what happened over time. Sorry home schoolers in december just jumping out of the water but i can't can't catch one with the rod. There's this whole kind of maestro maneuver and if you don't catch run you feel like an idiot. Usually i should have brought a net yeah. That'd be a lot easier ear snagging with the net one you know is a lot easier and the fishing guide we're with it feels bad for me so get just one himself places the rodney in my hands it goes and that hurt because z. I knew that i hadn't and so here. Here's where it heats up. I'm with the fishing. Guide sister pat he's seventy five yards behind us and i hear her say and it was the voice of someone who is about to be mauled. It had a very distinct pitch. You know house like year. She's out. There might be the whole time it just be like. I turn around and there's an eight foot brown bear walking towards her in the water is very surreal because he wasn't wasn't running. I will marry you just kind of docile like here. At cetera well here was my greatest fear mine tire life and i was proud of myself because i built up the courage i just say guide do someday and that guide snapped in actually sprint it over in the the water right at the barron he goes and the bear walks away all right. I'm bare relieve that my sister didn't get mauled but in retrospect i was a little angry at the guide. You didn't tell me about a half you he gave me. The bad parachute shoot goes off and then. I have the multicolor gym jim plastic parachute team skill you you know you no you go all right. That was camille nominee johnny johnny g lows. We'll get there and kumail first of all huge fan of camille now and mike raia burghley <hes> pronounce them both ron yup. <hes> love love mike yeah. Commanders started ahead of me. I don't see see them that much but when i do see them they usually <hes> leave the table and talk to someone more famous okay so that's funny because all i chose all four like movie. People have movies now so many killing camman johnny. Mike and burnham famously have feature length film. I would love to being a movie. I actually was my first part ever in a movie that didn't get out. I've been on two movies and they've been cut the fuck out of the both of them but there's a movie out now called ode o._d. To joy joy and there's a little seen my part was named staten island shit bag swear to god. I'm sorry staten island douchebag and i run past the main character martin freeman who's the fucking hobbit like legit the hobbit and from the office like iconic british actor martin freeman and he bumps into me on the brooklyn promenade prominent in the movie and i watch it shit bag that i keep running. Oh i saw that i think does you post by someone post about that. Maybe somebody posted they saw the move wow to joy o._d. To joy this dumb beethoven's on came up which is fake your movies should come up i instead of that up and comer beethoven okay so that first one was about birthdays and it was your birthday this weekend and that second clip the microbe iglesia was about his sleep paralysis yes so he gets paralysed legit in his sleep. <hes> i believe so it's socks. Yes <hes> a pretty big bummer. I would say not something i would would like but <hes> he's made off of it so it's basically like his gay like you know like his gay. That's funny so i'm gay so i talked about that <hes> and then he has a sleep paralysis so i believe it's prowess. Maybe i should double check to make sure <hes> by the way i just want to put you on the spot right now by the way it was. It's my birthday yesterday and i really appreciate you getting me a desert. When my favorite desserts you got me a desert just now and it was a black and white cookie when i said what do you want. You said the white half now explain yourself off. Why did you go just the white half though i have did i. I'm trying not to eat cookies. I'm trying to be like fuck. No i'm. I'm joking. I got to keep oh babe. Italian can't yukio kito is just like avocado and bacon yeah. I mean it's fat aren't you. You're going to get like a fucking gallstone with all the excess fat no. I'm not what did you have sex <hes> no okay i read six books books and i abstained from all <hes> earthly desires. I just finished a book called seventeen seventy six. We've spoken about just been it fascinating now. I'm onto a new book seventy seventy seventy the nazi symbiosis. I'm reading talking shit. It's about eugenics jenex in the third reich which and i was reading it on an airplane coming back from chicago and some women was offended by the book. It's not pronouncing the history history of the nazis but it has a huge swastika. It's not like third reich for dummies asked. Can we write third dumps. That's a funny fucking thing to do. Sell pretty good. I think third reich for dummies is hilarious <hes> yes. You got piss off me. <hes> what are you gonna do. I only have have read in ten years. I just started what a little thing and i've been doing for. The past like six. Months is just because i i was like insecure that i haven't been reading because <hes> so what i do now is one day. I'll watch like on my free time. If i have free time i'll watch tv and and the other day i'll read a book so so i you know like i'll watch like today. I watch t._v. So like i woke up this morning like worked out a little bit and then i had like an hour before so i just watch t._v. But tomorrow i'll read a book book yeah. It's hard to balance that. I do find myself when i have free time. I'm often in in a in a mood right either like watch tv for like a month or like watch. Movies will make an a movie stage. You're like <hes> your phone my phone phone on tick tock twenty four seven or like video games or something like that for like a month so i feel like i like move kind of like an in diff- different arose in my life now. Let's talk again. Is that the new do. We need to be on tick tock. Does this show needs talk tick tock. We could actually do this. Show on tick tock because it's you uh-huh play sound. It's like a lip sync thing so a lot of it is music so i feel like they have a lot of these comedy clubs actually on there because they were released on comedy central records so <music> on apple and spotify so we could like lip sync to stand up. Oh not wanted to ask you yeah 'cause you're. You're younger than me. Excuse me i was with a friend and she asked me she was like oh. Do you like look up the song or whatever so i went onto my apple music and she was like what are you apple music. He fucking loser and i was like excuse me and she was like you need to be on spotify. I dumb shit for using why what's the what am i doing wrong now with apple apple music <hes> me and my friend alex who has a podcast when they come to brazil <hes> listen wherever you get your podcast. We always have this because i'm a spotify person. He's an apple music as a person and stuff always gets released on spotify sooner than it does with apple music so downloading a new album that comes out midnight like the new taylor swift album came out and i had it before. He did like how much before though five minutes morning glover before before he did <hes>. I just bought if i'm more. I don't know i find the user face. I like that it's cause. I used to have like a whole i._t. Library library. I pull out ipod nano etc so i liked that. It was like a blank slate right and just was like completely separate but some people like to keep their old libraries and stuff you shouldn't she didn't have apple music and spotify that stupid pick one right yeah. Cancel one and use the other. It's like ten dollars. A month adds up well. How did you have so how much spotify a month month it's like. It's like ten ten but spotify any song. You put so if i'm putting in a song here's a chance there's a higher chance apple. Music won't have the song that spotify spotify has more music than apple music. You think i am not sure. Sometimes we have the issue when we make playlists for comedy. Central records are account on both and sometimes they exist. I say more often spotify doesn't have them and they're on apple music but that's really rare stuff right. I don't know why yeah i would. I just am biased to the user. Interface of spotify girl called me fucking piece of shit for using now from us down the stairs out. I kissed her on the staff. Did i say pushed or kicked. I was kidding. I you don't hit anyone. My daughter did punch me in the nuts though yesterday and she's getting her orange belt test talk wando on saturday so she's probably going to kick me in the nuts at some point. Wow it's just what is good for her about further and i forgot what what did you get to what belt yellow or like yellow stripe like. What's the one read after way. I think it's like yeah right now. Yeah i don't know i mean i hope she passes but i mean she just does not fucking lesson and she just smuggled she the other day. She smuggled the devil dog into taekwondo and gotten a lot of trouble on those roads. I i know she had it down her shirt. Oh my god so silly that's good for. She's a problem solver. That's critical thinking shadow shirt tucked in like really tight and then she put a devil dog down the back pressure when we left and it was like smashed all over her back so i put her in the stroller. What is coming out of your back of your shirt. Lila davel bulldog. That's a that's a that's a traditional taekwondo is to hide a double dog squash and she was like you have to eat it off your back. It's the instructor said it's impossible <hes> does she does. She chop the <hes> the planks the would no no no. I'm sorry she does not yet. I think that's next you can get this next belt then. I think they work on that after that. Okay yup cool okay so i just looked it up micro bigly. I don't think it's sleep paralysis. It's it's just a sleep disorder so <hes> what does he do like sleep walks yeah. He's sleepworks from his album sleepwalk with me. How often do you sleep. How many hours of sleep do you get a nice. I've tried to shoot for. I try i try to i would love to get eight to nine but i usually wind up getting like five to six but sometimes it's even less like my show is in chicago. I didn't get home till two thirty in the morning back to the hotel 'cause shows and whatever and the night is six a._m. Flight oh and then i was appalled and then i got off the flight and like went right to go get my baby and was with my baby all day and then you know she wants to play and go to the park and do all that stuff so they have to do it and then woke up to get her to school at seven thirty the next morning so so i start to feel it like now like now. I'm really tired right now. I feel like i wish on people's wikipedia is like after it listed like height weight parents it also amount of sleep. I get i would love that info yeah. I don't know why i feel like that's that could define so much. What do you get <music> like five sometimes for four <hes> but what did you go to sleep last night like to work up at six. Why did you wake up at six carr's. I wanted to do stuff before work do like writing and podcasts at before work tough but i feel like it's really getting to me in ways that it did not like explain. Go just turned fifteen so before i was fifteen. It was like easy like in college. I went to college <hes> twelve part. The house and <hes> yeah could just not sleep ever not ea or anything like i like didn't have to do do anything in college and now i'm sixteen and i have to eat or i like my brain stops working working and i have to sleep or like i get bags under my eyes now right chris. It's bogged on up. I know he's not going to get any easier with mortality. So what what are we going to do to go. Do you work out. How are you doing spin classes this. I feel like you have to do spend classes drink smoothies. That's what i see. All the kids doing cuties with music me or take his where do you work out <hes> well. <hes> let the record show that i quit when the guy <hes> to trump no common your account says it's a nice fucking jim now. They have nice towels yeah but i think we'll okay truth. Be told i could not quit because i was in the <hes> <hes> one year <hes> like membership thing and you can't quit before that yes sometimes we'll just keep going send them like a death certificate. You're like i am dead okay so i have to go there for years but i think i yeah i'll quit next month when i hit that year mark. It's so annoying like you can't. I know like new york. Sports club kyw realized i was i've been paying for gym like nine hundred dollars a month for like four years that i've never been i realized spotify and apple cool yeah. I'm an idiot but you have to cancel in person and i'm just like oh. I don't want to go all the way to park slope to fucking cancel shots at you. Yeah oh you oh okay so our final clip. I'm gonna play some bo burnham of the best prodigy mozart moat literally literally mozart shaking <hes> from his album <hes> what that came out in two thousand thirteen so and with a little song hidden <hes> any anything before we go any parting any birthday birthday <hes> i'm thirty five years old now. I'm in my mid thirties yeah so <hes> yeah. I just feel old called na. I've eaten a lot of sugar tits and i've never i felt better wow and with that <hes> does buford and chris. Thanks for all right. I'll see you next week and last word from the pod honey okay goodbye. This first song is called a world on fire. There's a little bit longer than that one and special the sad stuff. I see the world. Let's see a lotta sad stuff. It's called said my level. Madison picture depressed onion cutting itself. I met a homeless man named rich. He was isn't that terrible. Sort of flyer for a lost dog in the dog didn't have any legs manning can trigger tree. I saw ridge around who had a sore neck or a deer off aw man by spraying needed in four in heated needed and hear me more than anything just thought to myself. This is going to be sad. It was a genius with only one on a three d. Movie sarah a little boy dropping ice cream cone ring on his mother's corpse stuck in a tree and kin jumped up and he hung it sound boy ran ran to store looking for something but they the only sold paintings of the same sad guy. This store sells mirrors. You you want to know the real so sad medicine. Listen pain more genocide racism sexism. Gotta remember remember this good things about it too like the fact that none of that's happening to me store still though it's hard not to be sad about uh how'd y'all do it. I've been telling you guys terribly sad. Things wholesome movement sat at all. You've been happy. No you've been laughing. That's in laugher offered the kate every kick the way to solve all the sadness the world knock the people that are actually sad but the people got fucking deal with them all the time mm-hmm being a comedian isn't being insensitive prick capitalizing in the most animalistic impulses of the public. It's being the world isn't sad on the world's funny. I get the old man slim and what a fucking idiot i saw a woman and her daughter's funeral around classic poverty everything then once was funny now the holocaust and nine eleven facet vasan funny twenty four seven trash any will sydney show because my empathy the as built hello joe. Thank you very much. This has been a comedy central podcast.

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SYMHC Classics: Diogenes of Sinope

Stuff You Missed in History Class

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SYMHC Classics: Diogenes of Sinope

"This episode of steffi missed in history classes brought to you by four weddings and a funeral on hulu four weddings and a funeral is a new original series produced by mindy caling focusing focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship and career crises relationships are forged and broken political scandals exposed london social life lampooned and love affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral caps the new rom com series for weddings and a funeral now streaming only on hulu happy saturday everybody coming up on the show. We have someone who is inspired by the cynic philosophers particularly diogenes who i have a soft spot four so we thought it would be a good time to go back to our episode of diocese which originally came out in july of two thousand fifteen so enjoy. Hello welcome to stuff. You missed in history class. A production of iheartradio's stuff works the cali cry and i traced view wilson and it's been a while tracy since you've done any episodes on ancient history history that is correct so today. Do you want to go back to four hundred b._c. With me and talk about an enigmatic greek philosopher sure thing so this guy is really quite a fun character. He opted for a life of poverty to win of comfort. He was a self-proclaimed citizen of the world he sometimes <hes> <hes> <hes> the credited with inventing the word cosmopolitan relating to being a citizen of the world <hes> he was an enemy of pretense he was an avant garde thinker and he was also a humorist so he had a lot of irons in the fire philosophy and this is diana's of synergy and i've heard i've listened to a bunch of pronunciation some <hes> i put an accent on the middle syllable so sippy sippy sounds more natural to me so we're going with that apologies if you're anyone <hes> but the trick with him is that his biography not is based almost entirely on apocryphal stories there is some but not much solid information about his life and additionally it appears that he didn't write down any of his own philosophy. There is some debate over that but there's really been no evidence that he did so what we have is information. That's been passed down by his students and biographer. Sometimes you know several centuries later and i have to admit with my own personal kind of point of view on this that i kind of look at diabetes is gonna be as a sort of ancient greek tyler durden and that may become more apparent why i would think that as we talk about his ideals in his his philosophy and his wife also reads in some ways like one long monty python sketch so it's quite fun <hes> this is not one where you're going to get a lot of horrible horrible stuff over there are some twists and turns but i think it will be an enjoyable little trip to the ancient paths so let's do it. They odds knees is usually cited as being born born in the year four twelve v._c. And as with much of ancient history not really confident on that date he was born in centipede half ago neha on the coast host of the black sea and there's not really a lot known about his childhood. We do know that his father worked with money. Although we don't know the precise nature of the work irksome biographies listed as one some another he could have been a mentor or perhaps a money changer or simply a banker and we do know that diogenes worked alongside his his father and specificity as to the specific job title aside the really interesting part of this relationship with money is that at some point the genie's is and his father together or dodge alone or even his father alone but <hes> taking credit by the janin's started defacing the currency that they were working with there there have been lots of archaeological finds that corroborate that a lot of currency from the time was damaged. We don't really know why coin defacement was the hobby the of dad's knees and possibly his father although there are some theories on that yeah it may have been politically driven move related to the greco persian wars the time another perspective on the currency defacement features the oracle at delphi playing a fairly significant role in the text lives of eminent philosophers written in the third century c e by diogenes layer tius. There's a discussion of the aggies either being urged by the oracle to commit this vandalism handle ism although he was urged to vandalize political currency and instead to face state currency or of being called to the oracle after after the factor realized that his behavior had been predestined and we're not certain again of how this particular habit of currency vandalism it was an actually played out in terms of repercussions there are accounts that <hes> diabetes was exiled for this behavior and some of them involve a lot of <hes> interplay with his father and who was taking blame and who really did it but there are also conflicting accounts that say that diogenes fled before he could ever or be tried for the crime. Whichever of those scenarios was the case they h._b._o. Did move to athens after this whole currency incident this would wind up being a pivotal move because it's at this point that he started down the path of philosophy one of socrates former students anticipates took the oddities on as a student of his and in a much contested and we'll keep saying that but i just want to point out like there there are ongoing debates over the veracity of various accounts <hes> but in a much contested version of the story of how diogenes became anticipates disciple diogenes tells diocese had to really wear her anticipates down before the elder man finally conceded to take him on as a student when antony's raised a stick today is needs to drive him away his devotion was so vehement to becoming a pupil that he put his head in the path that the stick and said strike for you will not find any stick hard enough to drive me me away as long as you continue to speak and while we're also continuing to talk about contested facets of the story. We actually don't know for certain that he really did study under intestines. This is something that's still gets debated to this day <hes> by historians and classicists so keep all all of that in mind as we go to say diogenes was an impassioned student would really be an understatement. He took the lessons of anthony's to extremes james believing that he had to live the philosophy rather than really touch. Just talk about it. He wanted to reject officiality and the luxury of of fenian life in fact he wanted to reject creature comforts so badly that he decided to live in a tub in the building dedicated to the goddess sibley <hes> some accounts indicate that it was actually an empty wine barrel and not a tub and that he was merely in a public square but regardless of the details of his tub or barrel he was inspired appeared he said by the mouse which was a creature which he admired greatly for the adaptability that it showed it didn't need all of these trappings. It could live anywhere naturally. There's a whole other account of how he came to be living in this cast or tub and in this version he wrote ahead to a friend in athens he was coming and that his friend should find find him suitable accommodations. The friend was unable to secure lodgings for diabetes and so the possibly exiled man opted for a nearby barrel or tub in the public square in lives of eminent philosophers that then questioned as to his habit of living on the streets said that the athenians had the already built him places to live in meaning all of the public spaces around him an interesting approach to life before we talk a little bit about some of the ideals that the genie's expounded on we're gonna pause for a quick word from a sponsor. Everyone knows about the risks of driving drunk. You could get into a crash get arrested incur huge legal expenses lose your job or hurt or even kill people but that still doesn't stop everyone. Everyone we all know the consequences of driving drunk but one thing's for sure you're wrong if you think it's no big deal drive sober or get pulled over diabetes owned it nothing and he depended on the kindness of others anson wiggly logic that we're gonna talk about momentarily materially in order to survive he did at one point allegedly possessing a cup <hes> that is until he saw a young boy drinking from his cupped hands at which point diogenes through the vessel away claiming that it was simply an unnecessary possession so you may wonder how a philosopher living on the streets managed to survive elements he said to have taken up the habit of training himself to withstand any conditions so he would roll in hot sand during warm weather and embrace cold marble statues news in cold weather <hes> those those maybe fantastical fables of diogenes. We just don't know he did believe believe that. Manners were a form of lying so he was pretty comfortable being really outspoken and really brutally honest. He's also said to have pretty commonly urinated in public and even masturbated openly basically any of the natural human activities that someone might do in privates as part of living in a civilized society diogenes felt though should be allowed in public. That's part of authentic life. When i first started looking at your outline holly raleigh believing that manners were form of lying so he was just outspoken brutally honest and i was like i think this guy and the next minute did not they this guy thank goodness. There's another story of a wealthy group of people throwing bones during a banquet wit and calling him a dog after he lifted his leg and urinated on them canine style yeah we're gonna talk about dogs because they are often associated associated with him but this is basically this time in athens when he was doing all of these to some seemingly outlandish things of living publicly in tober barrel and picking on people that bothered him <hes> ease people started to call them crazy in fact plato supposedly called diogenes quote a. socrates gone mad so the relationship between dodge knees and plato was not simply a matter of mild name. Calling badge was very openly critical of plato's work for example. One of the ongoing philosophic discussions of the day was analysis of the nature and definition of what it meant to be human play they too had defined man as a featherless bipeds animal to point out a limited view of this definition is plucked a foul possibly a chicken and brought it with him into the flaps philosophers academy showing everyone how he was carrying by plato's definition a human being yeah i always get this is the famous stories of diabetes and i always get a little hung up on it because it's not the chickens natural state so you can't be declaiming that but again he was a humorous so the first prop comic perhaps <hes> the debate over the nature of man and what defines humanity continued to lead to more eccentric behavior on the part of the genie so he would walk the streets of athens carrying a lantern. Sometimes you'll see a described as a candle but much more commonly commonly as a lantern even during daylight and he would hold it up to people's faces claiming to be looking for an honest man and never finding it so we're laughing at the sky i pretty openly and it's important to point out that was considered berry humorous so while he was on the surface looking for an honest human being in a way that might have seemed crazy the best or the worst he was using comedy to make a statement about the people of athens having lost their humanity. He really felt that humans were living in pretense rather than in harmony with nature. That's where he starts to sound a lot like tyler durden to me. We should also mention though that he was not the first or only philosopher for who believed that most humans were walking around in this sort of contrived dream state of authenticity herrick latest sophocles amplio all tackled similar issues in their work but none of them took to the streets to challenge people openly and interfaces about it to further comment on the trappings of human constructs. The aggies ogies would say that he sometime saw man is the brightest and wisest of all animals that when he thought at fortunetellers sayers were heavily patronized that mankind was the most foolish animal of all and he really believed pretty implicitly that humans should be self sufficient as part of their natural state like he really thought we exist in a way that we could totally take care of ourselves if we got rid of all these societal no contracts but he also did a little bit of fancy footwork philosophically to make sure that his needs were met while he was living his natural natural self sufficient life he would expound for example that all elements are in all things that all substances are united so snatching a little bit of food or stealing. A little bit of wind was just making use of the natural elements that are all around you in the vapor. They just happened to take the form of sustenance estimates and apparently despite all the public urination and open criticism of literally everyone around him that was much beloved in athens. Yeah yeah people really thought i mean they call them crazy but they also thought he was very smart and he had a lot of interesting ideas so he such a fascinating creature and dioceses sippy with his disdain for social contract constructs is also considered the father of cynicism and this is where the dogs come in so so the word cynicism is related to the greek word for dog and there's no historical consensus as to how dogs came to be so closely associated but diogenes agenda in his philosophy but there are several popular theories the first one is that he extolled the virtues of the dogs way of living as being entirely without pretense chance which people who love dogs would probably agree with the second one is that his mentor antonis taught at a school called sino serge's which i may be pronouncing wrong but that translates roughly to place the white dog so it was more of a linear oman to his teacher than anything else both the third suggestion kind of back to the first one which is that it's a comparison between diabetes philosophy of anti pretense and the general characteristics of a dog yeah so that one is more like from other people saying hey you kind of like a dog rather than him. Going dogs are awesome. They're not pretentious. It's more one that's put on him rather than him. <hes> <hes> expounding han and this association of dogs with diogenes persisted throughout his life and beyond if you look at any <hes> artists renderings rings of the philosopher the majority of them i would say because there have been a lot of paintings of him throughout the years feature one or more dogs by his side. There are a lot of images of him kind of tucked into his little tub cask and sometimes they're four or five dogs just around him. They're almost always dogs in the picture so it things are about to get a little bit wacky. Here's what's going on so while he was travelling at one point the story goes that diogenes was actually captured by pirates. Gotta have pirates in a good wacky story and then he was taken to crete and he was sold as a slave to xenia dhs of corinth and as a slave diogenes origines allegedly told his new owner that he had no special skills or abilities other than governing men so he was made a tutor to z. needs children and eventually actually he was considered a member of the family rather than a slave and an alternate version of the story dodge and he's actually chose as the man that the pirates should expel him to you're saying that his potential master looked like he really needed to be governed. Many different details compete with one another when it comes to the relationship between diogenes and the man who purchased him he might have been set free immediately employed he might have started out as a slave and then slowly that aspect of their relationship diminished or or he might have stayed a slave although one with a great deal of personal freedom his entire life yeah we just don't know and and that's another another another one of those things the different tailings put different ways and different <hes> translations have probably led to some of that <hes> muddy water in that arena and despite the fact that he was technically a slave during at least part of this time in corinth it does appear that diogenes lived there in much the same way that he did in athens so he he slept and bathed and gave his lectures in public spaces and he issued the trappings of society and he continued to share in live his philosophy of personal responsibility he and minimalist living as for the lessons that he bestowed upon the children that he was tasked with teaching he not only taught him academics but also riding archery and stone slinging when the boys were in the gymnasium he was adamant that they not be trained the standard athletic style but in gentler manner getting their heart rates up and color in their cheeks but not really pushing to extremes yeah. This one always seems kind of odd to me. It's one of the many later writings about him because if you see him so often depicted as walking with a cane and so the picturing him teaching them all of these physical. Things seems odd to me but you never know. Perhaps it was true true. There's another sort of famous story about him. Involving his time in corinth when dagi's allegedly had an encounter with alexander zander the great apparently alexander wanted to meet this unconventional philosopher because he had heard a great deal about him when he finally found this man on the streets the corinth and inquired as to whether he was in fact the philosopher that he sought diogenes is said to have replied. Yes get outta my sunlight. The eccentric philosopher openly criticized alexander which perhaps surprisingly actually endeared him to the ruler so much so that the king of macedonia once said that that if he were not alexander the great he'd be diabetes of snippy. Let's consider the secret life of the imos nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when in a most nesting doll here's the geico not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching. Geico is a no brainer in most nesting doll and her lot in life in another belittling moved supposedly responded. If i were not auditing i would also wish to be on. He's he's. He's genuinely funny. That's such a good zinger. I love it <hes> he would lecture in public spaces and if no one stopped to listen he got in this really interesting sort of cruel. It's almost click abating of the ancient style he would start whistling until onlookers lookers came and once he had drawn a few people and gotten their attention he would then berate them for coming to listen to him whistling and being musical and point out how ignorant they were that they did not stop earlier to listen to the far more important things he had to share. I e his philosophy third of reminds me of when like joshua bell a virtuoso violinist will just busk in the subway and yeah through walk on by not realizing what's happening that needs lived the remainder of his life in corinth greece and died there in three twenty three b c at the age of ninety. His cause of death is as cloaked in murky variations as basically we every other part of his life story varying accounts list a dog attack resulting in rabies which would have been kind of ironic considering all the previous dog stuff food poisoning eating raw oxygen or maybe a raw octopus at an even committing suicide by holding his breath until he died and that last when is just as unlikely as it sounds probably. He just died of old age. Yeah i think some of these stories as were probably written to add drama but he was elderly when he died and he had been around a very long time and that was quite an all day j- i love it there accounts that they held his breath until he died that can't work you pass out and start automatically breathing but while diogenes had told old people that he should be thrown to the dogs as food when he died he was instead given a proper and honorable burial was again despite being this really eccentric cranky public urine either very beloved the account of his death plan is a little bit different in the third at century writings there he is said to have told <hes> zenia that in fact he wanted to be buried on his face quote because in a little while everything will be turned upside down and with that statement he was referring to the political situation at the time <hes> the macedonians were rising in power and he thought a pretty big cultural liberal shift was gonna undoubtedly follow that a statue of the philosopher was later erected in sinop turkey and it features the dog by his side and the signature lantern he would shine people's faces yeah so that is this the more modern day version of where he was born and one one of the reasons. I think that the life of dagi's comes with a lot of variation in the telling and most likely some outright fabrication is that he was a larger than life personality and sometimes teams that will kind of build people will build on some very real larger than life things and kind of add their own embellishments but i really like this one the story about him that is a nice way to kind of sum up his his life particularly at the end because allegedly as he was nearing the end of his life. He was getting very old. People would ask him why why he insisted on continuing living his difficult path of poverty when he really could retire and live in greater comfort again he was much beloved he probably had a lot of options and plenty the people that would have been happy to take him in and he may have still been <hes> part of xenia family. We don't entirely know but his response was. Apparently why so oh suppose i had run a long distance ought to stop when i was near the end and not rather press on and love him he so dedicated to his whole thing. He's funny. I mean sometimes we laugh at people's foibles in the in the podcast because they are humorous. We often get to laugh at somebody who's being deliberately comical in the podcast a nice change of pace from feeling mildly guilty z. about laughing at somebody's comical foibles yeah. He needed his what they were he. He had a really good sense of like what he was. He was drawing out of people well. He was trying to get people to think through comedy which is a big fan. I think he's thank you so much for joining us on this saturday if you have heard an email address or facebook u._r._l. 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How Joanna Vargas Built a Beauty Empire with Her Hands

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How Joanna Vargas Built a Beauty Empire with Her Hands

"I WanNa Vargas keeps Hollywood. Skin looking amazing. She counts Julianne. Moore Rachel Brosnahan Mindy Caling Sofia Coppola and Jake gyllenhaal among her clients beyond celebrity buzz. Join US built. Skin Care Empire includes salons in New York and La Natural beauty care products that bear her name. A new book glow from within. We talk about how she built her empire and her best tips for glowing skin. Join I have read about your early morning routine and found it very inspiring. Can you tell me about your early mornings? And how you develop that habit as you and I Both know it's challenging when you have kids and you're working and you don't try to find time for yourself. It's you know you have to be highly scheduled and I've always been an early riser. And so instead of just waking up early and just sitting in bed I decided to make it into a bit of a moment for myself which I found has really helped me tremendously in terms of stress management. And just making me feel like I did something good for myself every day so I wake up quite early and I do sit in bed for a little bit and just look at what's happening in the universe and then I get up and Do a pelleting class which really helps me manage stress. And kind of invigorates me and Gets my day started nicely with some fun music and some dance vibes. You like me a busy mom. What is the bare minimum? We each need to be doing to have good skin. I like to point out people that good skin has nothing to do with your DNA in has everything to do with your lifestyle. The bare minimum would include getting enough rest Exercising and eating not be on a diet but eating things that will give life to you and then on the skin-care side. It will be washing your face before bed wearing sunscreen every day and then I think sort of an essential ingredient in your arsenal would be a vitamin C. Ideally a vitamin C serum for day to help protect your skin against sal mutation and sun damage. You know you could wear it under makeup so those would be sort of like the bare minimum perhaps in exfoliating once or twice a week I bear is also my maximum John. That's how much of one's skin do you think is about what you were putting into your body verse. What you were putting on your skin. You know I'm an ESA Titian. So obviously I believe in product I believe in Facials butts I think. Fat Your Skin is like maybe seventy percent what the rest of your life looks like good products are really important but I think people discount completely how important it is to be healthy in your life. It's such an important part having good skin and controlling breaking out controlling dryness controlling how we age. Obviously I had to learn this as I got older. I'm I'm turning fifty this year and I feel like I understand a healthy lifestyle so much more than I did. When I was young I was so much more willing when I was young to kind of be like. Oh you don't have good skin and in my case. My mother had darker skin than me and I always wished I had her skin. I got cursed with this. You know fair skinned with freckles in Malaysia. And you know we all have our things right and I think when you're younger it's easy to pick yourself apart and when you get older you realize there's so much you can do for yourself some to make yourself look good and I. I think that my skin looks better than it's ever looked even though in my late forties so you do look I just for anyone listening so they know that skin is is is glowing. You grew up in Princeton. New Jersey went to University of Chicago studied. Women's studies is also a women's studies major so I love and Jersey quarrelsome and photography. What did you plan to do with that? You know? I moved to New York with that dream of being a fashion photographer or an art photographer of some kind. I did get jobs in that field at the beginning in the first years I was here. I just really realized very quickly that my personality I was not. I was not made for that lifestyle. I was not made to be a freelancer. I was very shy. I was very quiet. The idea of self promotion embarrassed me and just being on set. I just felt so stressed out all the time and so going to beauty school was sort of like while. Maybe I'll do make up. Maybe I could be a part of the Industry. Some Way and In a different way and when I got to school I really fell in love with the idea of taking care of somebody and that one on one. You share with me. What what's troubling you and I'm going to help you fix it and to this day. That's really what I love about my career and that's why I still do So many facials and I'm still in the mix Because I just love it this Chew Lak- Nice to have you on must be a special reason. Yeah Yeah you know. It's a special reason since I like to be behind all right so when come to beauty decided to come on board. I guess you rushed volunteer to try the products as I know I did. And it's the first time I know but I've already been using the coconut cream for years so I figured I wasn't going to miss a chance to try out sister products. I liked the photo you sent me the other day. You hear literally good and that was just after one shampoo and conditioner. My girls were shiny and smooth man. And my Komo's not full of my own hair after detangle that in the shower even in pictures is coming through. Your hair looks shiny and hydrated and just so healthy things. I really appreciate that. You let me send you those about the chained. So how many products are you using? All told right now. I've got four so I'm using the shampoo. The conditioner believing cream and they can tell you. What my favorite is the wave first of all that name is everything but I love how my waves on my Carl's just are fuller touchable. They're less frizzy. I mean I sound like an ad but let me tell you well you can enjoy the benefits of the gun through beauty haircare line picking up your favorites at target ordering from target dot com. You worked at new organic spa and with a dermatologist. Had those experiences shape your thinking on skin care? I learned a lot about ingredients at the organic spa. I also felt like the stress was more on aromatherapy there than anything else and it was very hard to clinically help. Anybody I also learned. I don't like Enya as much as other people may have. And so me. Getting a job with a derm was kind of like okay. I'm not going to do this. Who Am I and so working there? For the time that I was there was the opposite end of the spectrum. It was somebody who was really passionate about product and beauty which is great But where do I fall in this conversation? I found that I really thought less was more and I wanted to show people that you don't have to turn to invasive things in order to get your skin to be what you wanted to be. And so that's really how I developed my voice however it took you a long time to tell your parents that you were working as an institution and that this is what you were going to do why I think perhaps other people who have immigrant families can relate to this in some way. I'll just speak for myself and I have found that friends who have had immigrant. Parents have related to this concept but really my parents did not send me to school so that I would work with my hands. It's really that cut and dry sometimes for people. Mom definitely knew that aestheticians existed. But I don't think that anybody was happy with that choice in career. They wanted me to be a lawyer or a doctor. Those are pretty much. My two choices. I think that my family would have been proud of me if they could see now what I've accomplished but Definitely it was a hard conversation and it was many years after that I still had to listen to while if you have become a lawyer like your brother Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. So you know it is what it is. They just had a different world view. And I think one of the gifts that I have in my life is that I'm really good at seeing things from other people's perspectives. Even if they're not my own and I understood what they meant they just wanted what was best for me. It was very dramatic when I was young. But now you know I I really. I really get what they were saying. Was there a point where a light bulb went off over their heads and they said. Oh you built an empire you know. Unfortunately both my parents passed away really before that came to be. I think that they would have been extremely proud of what I've accomplished and I'm more sad that my grandmother didn't live to see any of this because she would've been busting with pride she was the type of grandma that You know she saved everybody's little clippings of accomplishments and things. She had a lot of children in a lot of grandchildren and she was very proud of her family and what she had accomplished in her life for her. Her accomplishment was her family and her grandchildren and she was really my inspiration for being in the beauty industry. She was the one in every birthday. Get BUBBLE BATH and body lotions and lip bombs from her and she used to let me do her makeup and her hair all the time with my cousin. So she's really is my inspiration from Penguin Random House and read it forward comes the adoptable 's show the dives into the most buzzed about book to screen adaptations. This season will feature the Hulu adaptation of the listings. Little fires everywhere. 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I don't know if mexican-americans users via let us perfume that they put on babies and of course. Are you kidding? I thought that that was like it comes with your Latina Card. When you're born you must put perfume on your baby. I'll leave you. I went on a secret legit. I only put it on when my dad's coming over because I don't want to hear about about whether or not the baby's smell like that but otherwise I'm just like this is. This is a lot of fragrance to put on a child. Two thousand six. You opened your New York Salon. That right as you felt that there it there was a need to modernize skin-care to take a fresh approach. What was missing on the market that you felt there was an opportunity and a need well So my husband and I opened the salon together. Where the dynamic duo You know I felt like I the places that I had worked in places that I hadn't worked. It was a lot of giving the same facial to everybody. It was a lot of one-size-fits-all I felt that. It was very geared towards Anglo skin I felt like the needs of all were not being met and I felt like the beauty. Industry was very exclusionary towards a lot of people not like A. We don't want you around but it was just sort of the imagery the treatments the product never felt like it was geared towards people of color and their needs. Just bothered me. You know my husband's from Nicaragua. There's that part. I felt young when we started the business together. I wanted to take science to the next level and I wasn't seeing that in the industry in the industry. It was still a lot of peels on everybody. A lot of what I felt. Were really outdated product lines geared towards a much older clientele and what about the working woman? What about the people who are in their late? Twenties and early thirties. Those are the people that really want to do everything possible for themselves. You're trying to be everything. Go to the gym. Go out with your friends. What about treatments for those people? We wanted to create a Salon. That was for everybody and we wanted to create. I wanted to do treatments and have a menu that was very geared towards different types of skin. And that could be really customized and curated and really address people in in a new way and I and that's what we did ten years later. You Open your La Salon. How did you know it was time to expand? I started going to La here and there in two thousand eight when a client where to ask The first client whoever asked me to go to. La was an actress who was in quite a big movie that year. And I gave her a facial and I started going periodically and then it became more and more than it was like. Once a month is starting to having regulars. It was more the fatigue of having to stay in a hotel every time and not having in having to set up every time and just knowing that I had clients there. That needed me more than I was going. That prompted me because I'm always driven by. If you want me I'll do it for you if you ask me. I'll do anything for you. I wanted clients. He no not every client is available the four days. I go a month to La and then one of my exhibitions New York said she wanted to move back to Los Angeles and I was like Bingo. Let's do this and so we got a space. It's just one sort of like all things become aligned and then you and then you go for it and now you can do it. Can I ask who was the first celebrity to show up at your salon? The first major person that ever walked through my door was Rachel Vice so pretty and so nice and just freely she and I are the same age and we have boys the same age so we really bonded immediately and Her skin You know in. That era didn't always love making movies as much as she did. And so she came for facials regularly The other actress that was coming regularly at that time was tatum. O'neal who was on sex and the city at the time she also one of the kindest people I know. Everytime tatum came to the salon she would by five gift. Cards to give to friends. So that I would get my name out there and The two of them were very very kind with me and You know as with everybody if you give them a good enough treatment. They'll tell their besties. We'll tell other people so that's really how we crew the the company. I've always thought a lot about what it means to live in a democracy. If like me you are curious about the bigger picture political questions. You should check out the democracy group PODCAST network podcast in the democracy group. Examine what's broken in our democracy and how Americans can work together to fix it. They look at how the government works. And how can all be more civically engaged? Each podcast covers democracy from a different angle. Whether that's foreign policy journalism or political science and examines different issues from exploring the need for climate justice to uncovering corruption Washington Visit Democracy Group. Dot Org to hear. The latest remember shows subscribed to a biweekly newsletter and gain access to curate a playlist covering everything from healthcare to climate change again. That's Democracy Group Dot Org twenty eleven. You launched your own product line. What was the motivation behind launching? That I feel like so many folks I think. Think about this and it's helpful to know how you did it. I wanted to it because I wanted to. I kept on looking for an exceptional wine to work with and I'm not that there weren't great lines out there just wasn't exactly what I wanted. And so I started working on it back in. I think I started in two thousand seven or two thousand eight on my first product. I didn't launch the line until two thousand eleven when I had four products. My first product was daily Serum. It took me two years to do. It is the hardest. I've ever worked on anything but it's still to this day. It's my top selling product worldwide. Because what you like biochemist with a vision for this like. Who are you working with this product? Yeah you go to a cosmetic chemists you have to interview them like everybody else and you have to find a place that you want to work with to make things for you. My husband and I found a lab that we really liked. We liked the ingredients that they were working with. We liked the setup. It was A really Nice company and I loved the chemist to this day. We're friends I told him I what I wanted to make any thought. I was nuts because nobody had made anything like it. Before this green juice for the skin he thought it was weird and it took a long time to get it right. 'cause I wanted it to be hydrating but light oxygenating. You know all these things but it really worked. It's a beloved product. Anybody who's a fan of the line uses that product and I'm very proud of it after that I got the hang of how to do it and I learned a lot along. The Way and product development is very easy for me now. So what do you know now about product development that you wish you know when you started? I think what I didn't understand is that it's just like baking a cake from scratch. You know it's not enough to just know you want Heireann AG- acid in your serum. You have to know how much of it to put and how it will react under makeup. And how could you put a sunscreen on top and there is something like that for every single ingredient? Not only ingredients work for all skin types and I understood a about ingredients because of the Durham. I used to work for because I had to learn about all these different product lines but it wasn't enough what I knew and so it was sort of like going to chemistry college. You know your feelings on plastic surgery you know honest to God if it's GonNa make you feel better about yourself than go for it but I want people to know you don't have to do it in order to look your best that's all. 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The Peterloo Massacre

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The Peterloo Massacre

"This episode of steffi missed in history classes brought to you by four weddings and a funeral on hulu four weddings and a funeral is a new original series produced by mindy caling focusing focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship and career crises relationships are forged and broken political scandals exposed london social life lampooned and love affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral catch the new rom com series for weddings and a funeral now streaming only on hulu <music> welcome to stuff you missed in history class a production of iheartradio's. How stuff works <music> hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm tracy wilson. I'm holly fry back in twenty seventeen which was not all that long ago really we did an episode on the cato street conspiracy that happened in eighteen twenty and it was a failed plot to assassinate the entire british cabinet and that episode we very briefly mentioned the peterloo massacre which had happened in one thousand nine hundred and the year before that was part of the context for this whole conspiracy and several folks back at that time let us know they were really excited to hear that peterloo mention gotten a few listener requests for the massacre over the years as well in this month is it's two hundred anniversary <unk> three so it seemed like a good time to finally move it up to the top of the list so the peterloo massacre took place during a peaceful protest for parliamentary reform in manchester lancashire england and there was a lot feeding into why people in britain and specifically in the region around manchester thought that this reform was needed the napoleonic wars and the war of eighteen twelve had both ended in eighteen fifteen and people had hoped that would mean a period of common prosperity but as has happened and in so many topics that we've covered following other wars it felt like the opposite was happening of the napoleonic wars had disrupted grain imports into britain from the european continent continent and this had worked out pretty well for britain's large grain farmers because the supply shortage they could sell their corn and other grains for much higher prices than normal but then as these wars were ending prices started following people. We're going to have access to that. Imported grain again prices dropped almost fifty percent between eighteen thirteen and eighteen fifteen so in eighteen fifteen parliament passed a corn law which prohibited the import of various grains until their prices for domestically grown crops rose up to a specific level and that exact price depended on the type of grain that was being sold this did contribute butte price increases but not as much as landowners had been hoping for still the corn law was obviously meant to protect the financial interests of wealthy planters landowners ordinary working people on the other hand had been struggling to pay for green and had welcomed the drop in price in response to the passage of the corn law protests and food riots broke out all over britain. Another issue was taxes. The british government had tried to pay for the wars with an assortment of taxes and duties an income income tax in particular had been passed in seventeen ninety nine and it was supposed to be a temporary wartime measure annual incomes over two hundred pounds taxed at ten percent an incomes incomes between sixty and two hundred pounds attacks on a sliding scale from one percent to ten percent a lot of working class. People had an income of less than sixty pounds a year so they weren't being taxed at all the british people thought that once the wars were over at least some of these taxes would be abolished especially the income tax but roughly two decades needs of warfare had left britain deeply in debt so in the spring of eighteen sixteen prime minister robert banks jenkinson second earl of liverpool am chancellor nicholas advanced toward announced a plan to keep the income tax in place so like we just said there was this whole sliding scale going on and that meant the way the income tax was structured wealthier people were paying the vast majority of the tax and when they found out the tax was not going away. They naturally were outraged. People protested tested and they signed petitions on march eighteenth eighteen sixteen the house of commons voted to abolish the income tax allegedly then all the tax records were gathered it up and burned in the old palace yard westminster but that wartime debt was still there and it was huge. The government still had to bring in money. Somehow an old the government raised taxes on a variety of consumer goods including tobacco tea sugar and beer while the income tax had mainly affected the affluent people britain's poorer people were most affected by these taxes on consumer goods so people who are already struggling to pay for necessities were now also also paying higher taxes on those necessities as well yes so they mostly went from not being taxed at all or or taxed only a little bit on their incomes to being taxed a whole lot more on things they needed to buy and that was really just the beginning nine hundred sixteen was the year without a summer which we've talked about on a previous episode of the show crops failed all over europe because of unusually wet cold weather and that may things even harder for people who were already being affected by the corn laws and the tax increases britain's textile industries were shifting and becoming more mechanized with traditional handlooms being replaced by machines. People were losing their jobs and wages is were filing for people who still have jobs. We talk about this more in our previous episode on the luddite rising which took place in the earlier eighteen so just a little bit before all this was happening. All of this was disproportionately affecting the people who are least able to afford it. Many working class families were affected by all of this at once with shortages of food they needed higher prices on what they could get additional taxes and reduced wages all at the same time and overwhelmingly the same people also did not have the right to vote in most of britain only men who paid certain taxes or who owned property had the right to vote and this this meant less than five percent of people in england and wales had the right to vote in the rest of britain. The percentage was even smaller. Even the people who could vote couldn't necessarily necessarily do so freely ballots weren't necessarily kept secret. Some boroughs were known as pocket boroughs because one person or family dictated how people people should vote one example was borough bridge us electorate was in the pocket of the duke of newcastle on top of that parts of britain weren't really represented in parliament more than half of m._p.'s were elected from southern england while other parts of britain weren't represented by a member of parliament at all as the population of britain had shifted it was common for small boroughs which were controlled by the gentry to have representation in parliament while growing cities did not this was true for manchester which had had no m._p. Even though its population had grown to more than one hundred thousand people by eighteen fifteen meanwhile other areas known as rotten boroughs sent to m._p.'s to parliament even though they only had a handful of voters living their old sarum for example had seven voters and to m._p.'s working people and for people in britain some of whom were both working in poor understandably felt like they were not being represented in the government and that the government didn't understand stand or care about their interests or wellbeing and in places like manchester this was heightened by just not having any representation in parliament at all a movement for parliamentary entry reform had started to grow in britain in the late eighteenth century in response to both the american and french revolutions amt thomas pains the rights of man which had it also influenced the french revolution reform groups founded in the late seventeen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds focused on changing how m._p.'s were elected and on the idea yeah of universal manhood suffrage meaning that all men are all working men would get the right to vote there are also female reform societies that were a big part of this movement men and there were some organizations that included women's suffrage among their goals female reform societies and women suffer just were really heavily criticized and their members were satirized in print with critics implying that there was something questionable about their virtue. We are going to get into this movement developed but first. We're gonna pause for a little sponsor answer break. This episode of steffi missed in history class is brought to you by the hulu show four weddings and a funeral for weddings and a funeral is a new hulu original title series produced by mini kei. Ling relationships are forged in broken. Political scandals are exposed london. Social life is lampooned. Love affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral catch all the drama in four weddings and a funeral a new rom com series produced by mindy kaeling now streaming only on hulu. The movement for parliamentary reform in britain was really focused on the idea of showing the government that massive numbers of people supported these proposed reforms this included petitioning holding mass meetings. The first of these mass meetings was held in november of eighteen sixteen in spa fields and london drew a crowd of about ten thousand people along with a large number of spectators. Another more radical meeting followed at the same place on december second eighteen sixteen. There's more detail about about that one in our cato street conspiracy episode but in brief some of the leaders of that meeting used it to try to start revolution. One person was killed and it came to be known as the spa fields riots. The british government began to find this movement threatening some of it was just about the potential loss of political power. If more people all had the right to vote or a seats in parliament were reapportion to try to more consistently represent all of britain but this wasn't just about power there had been violent in incidents beyond just the spa fields riots. Some of the movement's leaders were radical and used violent rhetoric in their speeches. The french revolution and the reign of terror were also still in the recent past and it happened just on the other side of the channel so there were fears that something similar could happen in britain so the government started taking steps to to try to discourage this reform movement and the mass meetings that were associated with it parliament renewed wartime laws that ban seditious speech and in march of eighteen team seventeen. They suspended the habeas corpus act. I'm putting in this definition of habeas corpus here because i feel like it's a term people are familiar with but might not actually understand and what it means. It's a latin term that has a slightly different legal nuance depending on the jurisdiction but it roughly translates to you may have the body meaning that if you satisfy satisfy the right legal procedures authorities have to produce a person that's being detained or incarcerated usually to bring them to a court appearance and that court appearance appearances often meant to determine whether the person is being held justly or unjustly so the concept of habeas corpus is meant to protect people from being unlawfully the imprisoned this suspension of the habeas corpus act meant that people lost protection and could be arrested and held indefinitely without being charged with anything. This didn't stop the protests. Though in march of eighteen seventeen a group called the manchester radicals gathered in saint peter's field planning to march to london they wanted to protest the suspension of habeas corpus and draw attention to the issues facing textile workers in lancashire these marchers carried blankets and reform petitions shins with them so this demonstration was nicknamed the march of the blanket tears when authorities tried to disperse these marchers hundreds of people were arrested. Nearly thirty thirty were imprisoned for random periods of time. Most of them never being charged with anything. Brought to trial of volunteer force called the manchester and salford yeomanry was also formed in response to the march of the blanket tears and other unrest that happened the same year parliament repealed the habeas corpus suspension act in january three of eighteen eighteen but the government was still focused on trying to break up the reform movement by march of eighteen eighteen home secretary lord sidmouth had said quote the country will not be tranquilized until blood shall have been shed either by the law or the sword as a summer approached in eighteen eighteen reformers started planning a mass meeting in manchester. One of the speakers was to be henry hunt who had been a speaker at those previous meetings at spa fields that we mentioned a few moments ago he you become one of the most visible people within this movement. He was a flamboyant speaker who usually were very recognizable white hat. He was able to draw and motivate large. Urge crowds a lot of articles about him today or extremely critical but they also draw a lot of sources for people who hated him so it's not totally clear how much of that is accurate accurate. He was widely satirized and cartoons and articles and the anti reform side gave him the nickname orator which was meant to be disparaging but today sedate people pretty much always just call him order hunt. The idea was that on august sixteenth eighteen nineteen people would march from towns all around manchester gathering together at saint peter's fields some were coming from as far as thirty miles forty eight kilometers away and some of these groups were going to be very large numbering in hundreds or thousands of people organizers wanted to make sure they arrived in an orderly organized way so many practice they're marching in the moore's around their towns the villages in the weeks leading up to august sixteenth a lot of people also made banners to carry on the day which were decorated with the name of the society that was carrying the manner or a slogan like unite and be free or liberty and fraternity or taxation without representation as unjust and tyrannical so a lot of people were carrying banners while they were practising as well since they were going to have to carry them all that way on the sixteenth. This was also at the same time of year that many of these communities carried out a tradition of rush bearing this came from the practice of annually replacing the layer of russia's that covered the church's stone floor and had gradually become more of a parade in which participants disappoints carried russia's to the church wearing their sunday best carrying banners and pulling elaborately decorated rush carts so people had logical reasons cents for practicing their marching before this event and it was all going on at a time when it was pretty normal in these communities where people parade from one place to another but authorities authorities worried that there was some kind of military purpose behind the drilling and that organizers were really conspiring to pull off something more violent than a march to a meeting by august twelfth local magistrates were writing to each other with their concerns that all of this might really be a pretext to some kind of armed revolution as people people living in and around manchester prepared to march to the meeting and spend the day listening to speeches and rallying for reform the magistrates prepared to make some disperse breath chief magistrate william haughton instructed the manchester and salford yeomanry and the neighbouring cheshire yeomanry to remain at the ready although many of them reportedly did so by spending the morning manchester's taverns the magistrates recreated three hundred people for the manchester special constabulary an arm them with truncheons and british army regulars from the eighty eighth regiment of foot and the fifteenth king's hustlers were called in as well the magistrates had rocks and stones owns removed from the ground so they could not be used as weapons and plan to arrest henry hunt as soon as he began speaking about how this all played out on the day after one more quick sponsor break on august nine that if you can't stand the heat get out of hell's kitchen the kitchen is a movie that flips the mom genre on on its head in a gritty fast paced drama if eaters melissa mccarthy tiffany haddish and elizabeth moss like you've never seen them before. 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They don't want you to know that was inspired by this hardened and uncompromising thriller that episode takes a deeper look into the life of new york's first mob mob boss and the queen of thieves marm mandelbaum and i got two guests on it so it was a very fun time for me because i love those guys. Don't miss the kitchen. It's rated r. under seventeen. I'm not admitted without apparent. It's directed by andrea bear laugh and only in theaters august ninth but route that arrived at saint peter's field in manchester on august sixteenth eighteen nineteen gene was festive and excited. The sixteenth was a monday so people who worked in the regions textile factories would have been at work for the day but while power loom factories we're growing and lancashire the majority of textile workers in that area were still working at home on handlooms may typically worked on saturdays and took monday off many communities these female reformer societies were marching together all dressed in white on the sixteenth. Although there were also lots of women there who weren't specifically associated with the society children were in attendance with their families and sources vary on the estimates of how many total people were their most say at least sixty thousand some go as high as one hundred and fifty thousand or more th- really kind of all over the place it was illegal gathering although there may have been some people who brought a stick or some of their weapon they had been told to bring quote no other weapon but that of a self approving conscience bishop edward stanley later said of the gathering quote i saw on no symptoms of riots or disturbances before the meeting. The impression on my mind was that the people were sullenly peaceful. I don't know why he says selling lee peaceful when many the of the other accounts say it was more festive kind of like a fun excited party. The manchester courier described it this way quote at half past eleven. My attention engine was i particularly attracted by a crowd of people advancing to the ground with flags and music. They came in a sort of marching order and were covered with dust. Having as i learnt learnt come from some town at a distance a number of women boys and even children were in the procession which had from this circumstance more the appearance of a large village party not going to a merrymaking than that of a body of people advancing to overthrow the government of their country. John benjamin smith later became a liberal politician and part of the anti-corrution anti-corrution law league but at the time he was twenty five and he had not planned to go to the meeting his aunt asked him to accompany her to a friend's house nearby so that she could watch watch and he wrote of it quote. There were crowds of people in all directions full of good humor laughing and shouting and making fun. It seemed to be a gala day with the country entry people who were mostly dressed in their best and brought with them their wives and when i saw boys and girls taking their father's hand in the procession i observed to my aunt these guarantees of their peaceful intentions we need have no fears magistrates met at a home that was adjacent to the meeting about eleven in the morning and sources differ about what happened there when hunt started speaking and authorities moved into arrest him officials maintained that chief magistrate william halton read the riot act before ordering the yeomanry to make the crowd disperse so here in the u._s. Most people know the phrase read the riot act as a figure of speech basically sigli meaning giving someone a very stern lecture for some sort of misbehavior but the riot act is a real act first passed by parliament in seventeen fourteen after a series of riots had swept through britain and its full title was an act for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies and for the more speedy ineffectual punishing gnashing of the rioters the act made it illegal for twelve or more people to quote unlawfully assemble and disturb the public peace local authorities had the all right to approach such a group and order them to disperse and failure to do so was a felony the act remained on the books until the mid to late twentieth century so under the terms of the riot act someone who was authorized to do so had to approach the unlawful assembly as closely as they safely could call for silence or otherwise quote cause to be commanded silence and then a loud voice they had to read this statement and its entirety quote our sovereign lord the king hang charges and commanded all persons being assembled immediately to disperse themselves and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business upon conned pains contained in the act made in the first year of king george for preventing. Tom and riotous assemblies god save the king was that statement was read. The crowd had an hour to disperse accounts differ in whether authorities in manchester that day read the riot act with reports that it was read mostly coming from magistrates agitates and members of the military but is it was read. It probably was not heard by the vast majority of the people there. They definitely were not given a one hour window to to disperse the yeomanry came down on the crowd within minutes of hunts beginning to speak the british army later blamed the yeomanry for what happened next the crowd was very tightly packed in the saint peter's fields and the yeomanry quickly broke form they charged in leaving the members of the yeomanry in very small groups surrounded by marchers who were packed in too tightly to disperse the yeomanry didn't have much training and a lot of them were reportedly intoxicated and when they found themselves trapped and kind of cut off from each other by this crowd they started knocking people away with the flats of their sabers in some accounts things escalated when demonstrators started throwing rocks although oh as some eyewitnesses said they did not see any evidence of rock-throwing or any other retaliation from the crowd the yeomanry sabres were also freshly sharpened something something that many sources conclude is evidence that they had intended to use them or to at least do as much harm as they could if they accidentally or intentionally struck someone with the edge edge rather than the flat this has been described as one of the most documented events of the nineteenth century. There's something like three hundred fifty different eyewitness a witness accounts and a lot of them contradict each other in details like this. The army regulars arrived at the field at about two pm. The eighty eighth fired down down streets to encourage people to disperse in the fifteenth fussers charged into the crowd but lieutenant colonel guy l'estrange realized that the crowd had formed kind of a bottleneck neck and it was partly blocked in by the infantry they couldn't disperse. They had nowhere to go so he pulled his force back. Here's how john benjamin smith described the scene. At that point quote. It was a hot dusty day clouds of dust arose which obscured the view when it had subsided a startling scene was presented numbers numbers of men. Women and children were lying on the ground who had been knocked down and run over by the soldiers. I noticed one woman lying face downwards apparently lifeless bliss a man went up to her and lifted one of her legs. It fell as if she were lifeless. Another man lifted both her legs and let them fall. I saw her sometime after carried off by the legs and arms as if she were dead and eleven people were killed there on the day five of them from sabre wounds and the arrest from being trampled or crushed by people or horses the day's first fatality is usually cited as william fields. He was a baby knocked out of the arms of his has twenty-three-year-old mother and then trampled at least seven. More people died of their injuries later. Two constables were killed likely by soldiers and probably by accident it. This took about twenty minutes between when the yeomanry charged and when the field was cleared it seems as though the yeomanry and soldiers focused on people with banners and on women of the six hundred fifty four recorded injuries at least one hundred sixty eight were women four of those women died of their injuries roughly flee half of those reported injuries came from sabres or other weapons as opposed to being crushed or trampled based on the record numbers about one eighth of the marchers were women but women made up about one third of the injuries there were also probably a lot more injuries that went unreported people were really afraid to seek medical care out out of fear that they would be arrested or face kind of other consequences for having been at the meeting twenty five year old james lees was a veteran of the battle of waterloo died of injuries injuries after being turned away from the manchester infirmary he was reportedly turned away because he refused to agree not to participate in such meetings in the future. He was quoted as saying quote at waterloo. There was mansa man but here it was downright. Murder henry hunt was arrested and tried for seditious assembly and was sentenced to thirty months in prison three other speakers and organizers were sentenced to twelve months each although people tried to raise funds to help the injured and and the families of the killed most of this money wound up going to hunts legal defense local journalists james rowe coined the term peterloo massacre combining saint thank peter's fields where it happened with the battle of waterloo which the fifteenth hazards had fought at four years before rose newspaper the manchester observer was shut down in the wake of his reporting on the incident and he was charged and convicted with seditious libel afterwards john edward taylor started the manchester guardian and that's just the guardian today the massacre temporarily united reformers across the political spectrum with the more radical and more moderate wings of the movement coming together in outrage over what had happened but this didn't help propel the movement forward the magistrates and other officials cited with the yeomanry and the regulars including cluding holding a meeting in secret to thank the human re for their work. There was no investigation into the behavior of the yeomanry the special constables or the military a units involved in response to the massacre parliament also passed legislation known as the six acts in november eighteen nineteen. These were the training prevention an act. The seizure of arms act the seditious meetings prevention act the misdemeanors act the blasphemous seditious libels act and the newspaper in stamp duties <music> act together these acts restricted the freedoms of assembly speech and the press they specifically outlawed the kind of drilling people had been doing in the moore's leading up to the meeting. Meanwhile while nearly five thousand people signed a petition denouncing the meeting that had been held to thank the yeomanry and condemning the violence in that read in part quote. We are fully satisfied satisfied by personal observation on undoubted information that the meeting was perfectly peaceable that no seditious or intemperate harangues were made there that the riot act if read it all was read privately or without the knowledge of a great body of the meeting and we feel it our bounden duty to protest against and to express our utter disapprove obation of the unexpected and unnecessary violence by which the assembly was dispersed. Many of the special constables and members of the yeomanry were shopkeepers and people apple boycotted those shops afterward the massacre and the government and other official response to it were widely criticized and satirized in prints an anonymous writer heider created a pamphlet based on the children's rhyme who killed cock robin with the robin being the people who were hurt and killed a somewhat similar political pamphlet was called old political house that jack bill was written by william hone illustrated with political cartoons like the children's rhyme. Every line builds on the one before so. This is the house that jack built. This is the wealth that lay in the house that jack built these are the vermin the plunder the wealth that lay in the house that jack built this is the thing that in spite of new acts and attempts cbs to restrain it by soldiers and tax will poison the vermin that plunder the wealth that lay in the house that jack built the thing that's going to poison these vermin is the printing press and the vermin vermin or an assortment of bishop's court officials army tax collectors and the like percy bysshe shelley also wrote a lengthy poem called the mask of anarchy although it was not published until after his death and he sent that poem to leigh hunt who withheld its publication for fear of political or legal consequences and there were also lots of household told goods like cups and tea towels that were made to commemorate the massacre but in spite of all this criticism and publicity it was a really long time before any of the reforms that this movement movement had been looking for came into being the representation of the people act of eighteen thirty two was the first act to include some of these reforms and it was passed thirteen years later it gave more men the right to vote and redistributed some seats in parliament which reduced the number of rotten boroughs and gave some places some representation that they had not previously previously had although it was nicknamed the great reform act these changes were far more moderate than what reformers had been working toward additional reform act followed in eighteen sixty seven and eighteen eighty four which continued to refine who could vote and how communities were represented in parliament but it wasn't until nineteen eighteen almost a century after the peterloo massacre that the representation of the people act granted universal suffrage men all men over the age of twenty one could vote route as could women over the age of thirty who owned property that by that point there had been entire other movements that had come and gone in britain including the charter. Hardest movement was in that whole window the whole lot <hes>. Do you have listener mail. That's maybe not quite so sad. I mean i do in a way and it kind kind of connects to this because like a lot of the investigation into what happened at the time was really focused on these marchers and what they were up to and whether they were up to something nefarious not on the people who carried out the actual killing this e mail is from yuan. I hope i am saying your name correctly and you on rights holly and tracy. What a timely piece just last week. The mercury news printed a report on u._s. Representative mark to sell nays amendment to exonerate report chicago fifty that passed the house while i barely skim newspaper headlines these days. I devoured the story because i thought i had heard about the the incident from your show. That must be the halifax explosion. Your latest show added so much depth to my understanding about the port chicago fifty while listening. I can't help but wondering where's here's the navy officers who looked down on the lowest intellectual strata given the court finding that the colored enlisted personnel are neither temperamentally nor intellectually intellectually capable of handling high explosives sees officers who ordered such personnel back to handling high explosives must be there lacked the intellect to understand that conclusion lack the intellect to integrate that conclusion to their decisions. Should they pass the previous test or should they have possessed the intellect and you both must have committed treason by attempting to further sabotage retired navy port during the act of war. This is a good point so thank you for writing two things number one. A couple of people have gotten in touch with us about this on july twelfth. The national defense authorization act was passed by the house. There was a concurrent resolution the day before and there is an amendment. That's part of the authorization that would require the secretary of the navy to either there exonerate the port chicago fifty or to look into exonerating the port chicago fifty. I could not find the text the actual amendments on the congress website. There are a lot of amendments to this particular bill and i could not find among them so that currently has has passed the house. There is not a similar bill that has passed the senate. It's not signed into law so nothing is a sure thing yet but this representative senator who i think represents the part of california that port chicago is in has been trying to get the port chicago fifty exonerated. It's not the first time that there's been an attempt to get them exonerated but is ongoing. We recorded that episode on july night so we recorded the episode before any of those things had happened in regards in regards to the question of and yet. That's not a question that anybody was exploring at all in any of the hearings that happened at the time there were just a lot of examinations of the men who were loading munitions and portugal when really no examination of the decisions that led them to be doing that so that was one of the very frustrating things and i was very astute way of laying out the questions involved so thank you want for this email and for the link to the article about this defense bill amendment that may lead lead to an exoneration if all continues on <hes> if you'd like to write with about this or any other podcast history podcast at how stuff works dot com and then we're all over social social media. I'd miss them history. 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People Love Priya Krishna

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51:11 min | 1 year ago

People Love Priya Krishna

"Hello i am athena kelder of ice. When did you know that over twenty five percent of new york city children are living in poverty. Many we rely on free school meals classes in session but during the summer months their families look to soup kitchens and food pantries to eat the the folks at food bank for new york city while you to know that unlike school hunger doesn't take a break help them end childhood hunger by providing being meals to families and children in need during those challenging summer months visit foodbank n._y._c. dot org to learn how you can volunteer spread the word and more hi bomb-squad squad. You're listening to radio cherry bomb and i'm your host kerry diamond each week. We talked to the most inspiring women in and around the world to food. Let's thank today's sponsors likud on bleu culinary schools and trigger woodfired grills housekeeping. We have so much housekeeping. The food for thought. Tour is gearing up for its second half. Can you believe that we will be doing live radio. Cherry bomb episodes in asheville north carolina hanging with our pals vivian howard and katie button will also be in philly miami and ready for this one columbus ohio and our event is taking place in the home office of jenny's splendid ice creams. It's going to be huge and yes there will be ice cream and other cool stuff for tickets to all of these tour stops and more information visit cherry cherry bomb dot com. Thank you so much to carry gold for supporting our tour on saturday november second. We are hosting our first ever jubilee seattle. All we can't wait to meet up with the pacific northwest bomb squad for a day filled with delicious food networking and wonderful talks and panels early bird tickets are almost gone so be sure to grab yours. Today also are volunteer and scholarship. Ticket applications are now open visit cherry bomb dot com for today's show. We're getting a double dose of preah krishna. We love practitioner. She's a journalist cherry bomb contributor and author of the hit cookbook indian recipes and antics from a modern american family. She's also a very good friend which i should note. I sat down with priya at a cherry bomb h._q. To catch up on how her life has changed since her book was published this past spring then in the second half will hear preez talk from our jubilee two thousand nineteen conference conference. Is there such a thing as too much priya. We don't think so before we get to our conversation. Here's a word from likud on blue. Are you daydreaming about culinary school again. Think make this the year your dreams become reality with the cordon bleu the legendary jerry culinary school study classic french culinary techniques in cuisine and patisserie as part of their exclusive nine month lebron diploma and graduate into a a world of opportunity. You also can extend your course of studies to include culinary management and dedicated internships likud on blue has locations in more than twenty twenty countries around the world and located within some of the best food cities out their london ottawa madrid bangkok tokyo and of of course the spiritual home of cuisine and likud on blue paris turning your d- dreams into reality is closer than ever visit cordon bleu dot e._d._u. For more and let your culinary adventure begin so pre is here and we're looking at an article. She wrote for issue cherry bomb thirteen things she learned from her mom tom in honor of our thirteenth issue. What is your favorite piece of advice from your mom. I really do think that it's the two and a half inches as high of a he'll. He'll as you'll ever need anything. Else is a recipe for bunions. My mom loves her shoes and has bought many shoes over the years and you know i feel like that is that is not sexy advice but it's very practical advice and i love it and i've discovered there are so many great two and a half inch heeled shoes. I feel like you find a sexy to in in half inch heel but i don't wear heels anymore and decided they're a tool the patriarchy two and a half inches. I feel that i'm not subscribing to the patriarchy erkki because i'm still comfortable. You know that somewhere between matriarch anyway. We're gonna talk about food today. <hes> because we're so excited excited you're back from your massively successful tour yeah yeah. I am kind of astonished at the response to the cookbook. It's been awesome well. I i feel like i have been intimately involved in the cookbook for a while. Just because cookbooks take longer than people realized to work on so you have been working on this cookbook for quite some time f- fun fact is that i found out that the book sold sitting in this very office. Oh that's nice. That's nice. I don't know if i remember remember that you weren't in the donnas. I was like if we share that moment and i forgot. I apologize so happy to hear. We didn't share that moment. You and donna did donnie honey and we missed on all the time i mean the book has done really really well. I do not think your publisher was anticipating that in the beginning yeah i mean it's hard to tell what they are in -ticipant eating because you didn't communicate that they thought it was gonna be yeah. Don't really have much of a following when i sold the book is definitely more of theoretical thing. It wasn't even my idea. It was another editor who had come to me but it was also like as the book kept going and as i kept writing. It felt like oh like this is what i need to be doing. This feels like a very obvious next step for me as i started leaning more into the subject checkbook. It seems like people were listening. More and more people were listening and paying attention so there was momentum. Yeah i think so and i think by the time the book came out. There are a lot of people oh who already knew about it because you know i was sharing all of my failed attempts at making bowel on instagram and sharing pictures of my dad add washing the dishes wearing a lucky people kind of already felt like they knew what like they knew about the book and they knew about my life wait. What was your dad wearing wearing a longest gi. It's sort of like a kind of like us a loincloth but longer. It's like a long skirt. It's very breathable and it's worn a lot in india and dallas. Yes search and your parents home. I mean what i loved about. The book from the beginning is that it's such a tribute to your family. <hes> and i know how much you love your parents and that's so sweet. Yeah i mean you know i was one of those classic angsty indian-american kids who just totally rejected my culture and was so embarrassed of my parents and the fact that they had an accent and they didn't make spaghetti and meatballs they made but it's like you know i feel like many people go through this as has life has gone by realized that both of my parents are pretty remarkable. People my mom being this woman who was kind of breaking the glass ceiling before for that was even a thing and my dad who made all of these sacrifices so that kinda let his career take a backseat to my mom's because my mom had these really wild ambitions. Tell tell your parents wound up in dallas. It's a sort of sad story but now looking back on it. It's it's kind of happy. We're living in new hampshire at the time. My parents went to school in the northeast after they emigrated to the u._s. In one thousand nine hundred eighty and kind of the plan was always is to have my mom's parents moved to the u._s. from india and take care of my sister and me they died really suddenly in a car crash just like together. You're and they had sort of told my mom that if anything happens to us we really want to make sure you and your brothers or together so my mom's youngest brother had just moved to dallas because is he just gotten a job there and so my mom and her other brothers with no job prospects no nothing just like up and moved to dallas to be altogether. I didn't know that yeah. Did you ever meet your grandparents. I mean i guess technically but i don't like they died when i was about two years old so i don't remember them. Oh gosh and they died together. <hes> that's heavy will they had actually it's funny. My grandfather had written a journal that he thought the he and his wife would die at the same time was really eerie. Okay yeah from the stories. My mom tells me and it took her a long time to be able to talk about her parents but now she talks about the more and more seems like especially me and my grandmother would have gotten along oh really well. She no she hated cooking shows very sassy. Well we love. We love that. You're sassy priya area so i wanna talk about the bone apetit videos because this is just catapulted you to a whole new audience in a whole new level. Yeah i mean i kind of didn't know what i was signing up for. When i agreed to do those i had seen like one or two of those videos but i don't think i realized the viewership that bon apetite he has been able to get from those videos and so you know the first one went up and me making this basically like indian grilled cheese that has curry leaves and mustard seeds on top for me yeah the he does and it just it was like like every day i was getting ten. D._m.'s of people who had made the he chose people who were like. I can't believe i'm seeing curry leaves and the bon apetite test kitchen people who are like you know. I've never met indian food before this fuel so doable global. I mean it was kind of it was kind of amazing and the viewership. You're getting like hundreds of thousands of views per video yet. There is a half a million for most of them. Yeah there is like a video where i made its watching over and over again. That's clicking no. He doesn't watch my videos. He watches the big watch zone. Yeah we'll get back to that. <hes> but has it been fun being part of the bone up yeah yeah it totally has and you know i love their the entire production. Team is amazing like my producer. Tommy warner is just unbelievable. Achievable wrote a boon who does all of the food styling and everything they just make you feel so comfortable and they make it so easy. I'm definitely someone who i think. I'm a better storyteller than i i am cook and so there's something really inherently terrifying me not a professional cook cooking on camera but i think one they make it easy and to you always tell me like lean into you know exactly the cook that you are people aren't looking for professionals who have perfect life skills. It's okay that your knife skills aren't good a a lot of people homes. Knife skills aren't good but i can tell your knife skills have improved watching your videos. I'm really glad to hear that because i've been working very hard on my knife skills what i love love about the success of indian ish and the success of your videos is you do have people making indian food who i think just had never even thought about it. I love on your instagram graham stories when you share everything that people are posting of what they're making and like that's every day and i don't even have time to share all the things that people are making. It's the best is problem to have but the pa- near the four fateh your sog thatta fateh the day he does like all these things that just people didn't even know the names of uh-huh and i i mean i hope you are able to like i know you've been so busy with the book the past few months but i hope you're able to sort of realize the impact actor having and what you're doing for indian cuisine in america. I hope so i mean i also feel like i am benefiting from like a wave of people bull and books that came before me. That's sort of like fomented this happening. I feel like my book arrived at the right time or you had breathy mystery three and nick sharma an offshoot gomez that sort of paved the way in showed that there isn't just one type of indian cookbook and that we all have these really unique perspectives to share you know. I think i try to make it so that my book isn't this is how you make indian food. This is like the definitive take but like this is really. This is the indian food that i grew up with and i think it's really tasty and really accessible so maybe it'll help you get into the food. Do you think it's also part of a bigger appreciation just for indian culture and indian american culture you know you've got priyanka chopra on the cover vince style and vogue yeah. I was thinking about that. I mean i a hundred percent think that there is a relationship between brianca chopra mindy caling and the popularity of indian food. I mean i never cultural troll moment it. It really is and i you. I never in a million years ever thought that bianca chopra someone who i grew up watching bollywood movies would be considered a mainstream stream figure in america but it gives me a ton of hope to see that too or that you'd be discussed in the same sense as mindy kaeling and priyanka chopra i mean. I don't think i'm there yet bunch. Uh-huh pre chris note mindy kelly show where there you go. You're just in a sentence with the two of them. Yeah i wouldn't quite a full sense and you know what i mean. Yeah i hope one day. I get to meet branka chopra. I met him indicating in passing many many years ago but maybe i'll get to meet her again but it is is an interesting dilemma for you because you gave that wonderful talk jubilee about not wanting to be pigeonholed or token is used and now you have become an indian food expert which is something. You're kind of trying to avoid well. It's funny because it's almost as though like as a home cook. I'm totally fine nine being the indian food expert but as a journalist. I don't just want to be the indian food expert and i've tried to make that really clear because at bone app they're constantly asking me like are there other dishes dishes. You want to make and i'm like i don't think that me making pasta will contribute much but i think me making indian food like i think i think that's where i have the most to offer whereas as a journalist. I don't think that i have the most to offer just by writing about indian food and have you been enabled to maintain that yeah totally. What are some of the more recent pieces you've been able to do. I did a profile. I'm really really proud of of the chef kwami on watchi- i read his memoir a really long time ago in thought it was really special in this kind of before he started blowing up and so i started writing this profile and it started as the seven hundred word sort of brief on his book and as his star kept rising seven hundred words two thousand words eventually it was two thousand words and i was just really taken by his story lori and you know what it takes to succeed in this industry as a black man coming from the circumstances that he came from. Who did you write that for for the new york times you really they have made a name for yourself by chasing stories and and pushing for stories that other people don't want to write and you have been such a champion for the underdog in this industry. A champion for people who don't have p._r. Can't afford p._r. You know don't have the fancy website website. Don't have all these things you know. You're willing to still do the work of being a journalist and in fact the majority of the people that i cover i feel like one either either haven't heard in new york times or apetite or two. They think they're being punked so i no i i kind of love covering someone who doesn't want to be covered. Those are my favorite stories. Give us an example so i am profiling right now. I'm working on this profile profile of this. These this farmer has named zayd gournay and he grew up in the middle east and he is basically name the restaurant in new york that's popular and he supplies their produce. He has this unbelievable ability to no. This variety of kale or eggplant like is going to be popular. He sort it just kind of has like an amazing sense of what will be trending in produce and he does it by he brings basically these farmers from egypt chipped who are really really well versed organic farming in egyptian technology egypt is one of the oldest agricultural nations in the world and he and his wife haifa basically we run this organic farm that's powered by egyptian farmers and technology and he when i first called him like he was so hesitant and apparently he called the friend who connected me and was like i don't know about this but he was like it's for the new york times times. She was like he was like. I dunno you wore him down. I wore him down. I literally like my friend. This introduced me like he drove me to the farm and i was like this is happening but i do admire your journalism skills because it's so easy today to just pluck something off instagram or stumble upon on something but you you still really go out there and kind of act like a sleuth. Well isn't that more fun right like the more that's like. The whole point of reporting is to uncover uncover something that no one else has found jet into feel like you're sort of holding onto this treasure like when i find a really good story i get i get really nervous. I'm like someone else is going to find this obscure restaurant in salt lake city serving hawaiian food. I'm someone's going to beat me to the punch but i'm like yeah. No very few other people are seeking out these stories and it's amazing that there are still those stories don't cover because you can sort of feel like every store has been told today and you know because of social media. We know about everything but that's not true. It's totally not true. Especially in the middle of the country like everywhere. That's not allay san francisco and new york. There are so many fascinating food stories like i met at a wedding i met this guy from indianapolis indianapolis and he rattled off like three food businesses and each of those food. Mrs could have been a profile profile all right. Let's talk about some food stuff <hes> chunk life yeah those who don't know what that means what does chunk life well so chunk is a indian technique wherein you basically just temper or fry spices in oil the idea being you're sort of creating this like crunchy she flavorful oil that you can then poor on top of any dish and i've used it in everything from doll to nachos and it works great and chunk <hes> pity your hashtag. I did not create that hashtag. Someone else made that hashtag. Okay there yeah like seth bakes not my hashtag. It's not know no not seth is previous boyfriend who we all love so much and who is obsessed with making really complicated baked goods. <hes> where does that obsession come from his grandfather was a baker so i think yeah it's in his blood. Oh okay and the whole video thing was at his idea. Was that your idea. I just just kind of started last christmas. I started documenting him making a cake and then on new year's eve he really wanted to make croissants and so i started documenting getting those and i was getting d._m.'s from people being like i'm so invested in these khorasan's laminated dough exactly and then the croissants turned out so beautifully and the people were so excited and so i don't know i just like kept documenting them now when i don't when i'm like too busy i don't have time time to document people are like where's sef aches and you make them dance to bollywood songs he'd he'd voluntarily dances and sing bollywood songs wrongs again volunteer and so folks like i know he's an architect and i know architects work really hard but he looks like he has a lot of time to work out. He makes time to work out. He wakes up very early in the morning. It's like his meditation. Is he a good influence on you. He's very good influence on me. We go to the gym together quite a bit all right a splatter guard. Do you own a splatter guard. No i don't but i know you and i know how much you love yours i need to i saw you using being one in your apartment. I was like i need to get this. I thought that it would improve your life. Immensely bladder definitely wouldn't have helped you when you got this launch show in the eye god but it would've taught famous bone appetit video moment. Did you know they were going to run that. At the end. I mean <noise> you like whenever i do something remotely embarrassing. You just know it's going to end up in the video joe. It's just inevitable. It's just yeah anyway. Splatter guard i should i want to congratulate you success on the book die he toast which we talked about ah earlier. I mean i just i. I'm so tickled. No and i see it all over instagram. Yeah like you have that that is something you have completely created. We'll i mean many. Many indian families make something super similar. I just annoying the craze for it. Yeah i mean it's funny. I <hes> one of my friends runs went to this bakery in l._a. Called fiona and they have at the he toast on the menu and like who knows that he does too so common. It's very likely could come elsewhere but it was like the exact that he toasts that i make but just more open faced version. Can you tell people what it is exactly yeah so it's basically sour uh-huh bread filled with yogurt that's mixed with cilantro and onions and chillies and use sort of griddle it on both sides like grilled cheese and then you top it with a chunk thank or tempered spices of curry leaves and mustard seeds so it gets all like crunchy earthy delicious. It's just and then you eat it my my mom and sister edith sandra cecchini. My dad and i eat it with catch up. Sometimes i swirled the two together. It's just the perfect dinner. It is like the classic. My mom came home from work. She doesn't have any time you throw together that he toast. I mean that is just flavors. Firing on every syllabus it is so good good and people don't believe me about the catch up. The catch up idea is kind of gross but i i mean i know you well and i've eaten with you. So i trust your palace. I've had many people like like kind of approach the ketchup with skepticism but they always convert okay. I don't believe you always toast your spices you you that's a big message that comes through an all your videos and yeah i mean i sometimes feel like people just kind of like half acidly put spices in a dish but toasting them or at least heating them up as what's happening answers. Hardly a word haphazardly is that is that the right lane half hazard yeah. I thought you said have acidly okay. Well now that too and you know. The reason. Indian food is so good is because they're activating those spices their heating them. That's what brings out those essential official oils and kind of permeates the whole dish with that flavor so always toast them. You said something very funny and i don't think you fully meant this but you said indian. Food is very forgiving. It's basically just dumping a bunch of stuff into a pan. I mean i kinda stand by that like it. It is extremely forgiving like you know when i was testing stuff. Sometimes i would run out of space or i wouldn't have enough and it was fine like you know you're adding enough stuff in there and kind of stirring it all together that you know some. It's going to taste good whether you add one line or two limes. Whether it's a half tablespoon or for a full tablespoon of coriander seed i truly i do think it's one of the most forgiving cuisines it's doesn't have the precision of like french cuisine or or pastry. That's what i like about it. I'm definitely one of those people who plays fast and loose with recipes. You've also shared with the rest of the world. You're not pizza <hes> which we originally ran the cherry bump cookbook so i feel very proprietary toward that recipe but you love this recipe. That is probably if there are a recipe. That's like the nearest careerist to my heart from a book. It is the rotea pizza because it is one of those things that was it was true compromise. We wanted pizza my mom. I didn't wanna make pizza and so she because well she didn't know how to make pizza and she thought it was unhealthy so she thought she'd put pizza toppings on roti but you you you and your sister wanted american food and your mom made indian food every night and that was the compromise exactly that was the compromise and now rotea pizza is like it's is well known in our family our extended family or friends. Everyone knows about rotea pizza so you came. You came over and made it didn't you when we were together testing the cherry bomb cookbook recipes and i remember that was one of the first times i shared one of my mom's dishes sort of outside the family and seeing the joy on your face when you ate that rotea pizza. I was like oh okay. My mom's food might have some wide appeal. That was the first hint of that and do i remember correctly. You had to get your mom's permission mission to try to run that recipe book. Oh yeah definitely but now she's very. She's very free about giving out her recipes. She's she's an old pro now. No i would hope so. I mean india. Shes attribute. I mean the sub. The subtitle is about what is it like the the misadventures recipes and antiques or modern american family and my mom's my co author. She wrote one hundred recipes for this book so she's used to it yeah. How does she like the attention. I think she's just so so excited about it. I mean every time my mom and i talk on the phone. She talks about how the other day she was giving a big presentation to all of the executives and her company she works talk software company and she gave the presentation and she was like any questions and someone raised their hand and was like i just found out about your cookbook. I should've say i'm a huge fan. I've cooked these recipes from it. I want to share on my instagram and my mom is like i've just never i've never had like work. People come up to me and say they made my allah gobi or my rotea pizza like that is very surreal to her. I mean also her. Her job is so oh not cooking. Related seemed seeing those things intersect. I think it's been really cool absolutely so let's talk about your talk from from jubilee since everyone's going to hear that next of all the things you could talk about. Why did you choose to talk about that. That's a hard one because there are a lot of things things as you know. I have lots of opinions but i was sort of at this moment in my career. You're where you know. I basically thought that i was going to have to choose am i. The indian person person who covers indian food or a generalist and i sort of made the decision that i didn't want to choose at that point and i'd also come off having having all these conversations about my cookbook with magazines in which they were like this is too complicated a magazine that regularly runs like fifteen ingredient you you know dip recipes telling me this and i felt really strongly that there are still so much work to do in media in terms of accepting the cuisines of communities of color and i felt like the there are a lot of things that maybe people subconsciously consciously do that. They don't realize you know not realizing that their networks are mostly white that they need to reach beyond that you know only cooking what they we know which is european food if and not attempting to learn other cuisines source outside contributors and i also felt like they're like pretty simple simple straightforward things that can be done to address these and i was like okay. It's gonna be a room full of people who have a a lot of influence that people who are shaping the food world if i could tell them something what would it be and it was that it was like how do we make like our world more inclusive. Both the specific like food world that we occupy aside from your own personal contribution to meet to this change. I mean you are the change in some respects. Are you seeing other signs of progress. Yeah i am slowly but surely like bon apetite. Not i feel like that's been a big a big thing that i've tried to advocate for you know the test kitchen as a lot of people know is super per white so it's like how can we bring in more perspectives to the kitchen. How can we not just write about restaurants run by people of color but right about source recipes. He's from people of color from communities of color. I think the biggest thing that can be done with most of these publications is like normalising other cuisines cuisines or indian food or vietnamese food as just like everyday food like you're doing a salad package. Not include got uber from india fatu. Sh <unk> from iran these things will sort of help to normalize these cuisines in the minds of people and not make them feel like other you know <hes> you know what's been so interesting to me as as more people of color get cookbook deals which i'm happy to see but i still think it's not quite enough i realized realized for how long we only ever saw white hands <hes> <hes> in magazines and cookbooks and now to have books like nick's book like blacker baking books like that and you realize you know god we still have so far to go that for that to be startling and to realize that you really only ever saw white hands and magazines is is yeah. I mean even still when people do you like retrospectives on like the cookbooks that shaped my life. Most of them were cooked books by white authors and it's not because it's it's it's because the those are the people who are publishing cookbooks back then there were people like mother joffrey that were publishing cookbooks but there are few and far between an ed lewis but there again she only had a handful of cooked right yeah. It was really fun seeing you with pod and mater unreal because she called you out from the stage. Yeah i saw your face yeah. It was i think someone like snapped a photograph when she said that because i was sitting with the team that photographed and designed my cookbook book and we were all freaking out she's amazing. It was really fun to have yeah for the final day so so happy that you all got her and they got bud it to interview her. I was just i was. That was her idea yeah. It was amazing. I mean i just like the energy and sas that mother has that that her age is just remarkable. I think she's she's amazing. I can't even imagine what it was like being in the environment that she was in being published by you know edited by judith jones in that era. You know one thing that she said in that talk. That was really interesting. As you know she ultimately she hates the word curry deep but one of her books has the word hurry in it and she felt like she didn't even have a choice like it was either that or the book doesn't get published <hes> and also the regional all all the regional cooking and how you know indian cooking's like italian cooking in that respect that it's not just one big thing totally and i'm really really excited to see more chefs cookbook authors lean into that yeah i loved i mean it was fascinating hearing about her working <hes> with judith jones but even going back to two prayer protests with gandhi <hes> i mean to to have this woman who actually was in the same room as gandhi he was. I mean that's been just unbelievable. I i can't believe she's seen all the things that she seen same yeah. I could have listened to talk for a few more hours actually. Is it weird for you to think you're like literally now following in her footsteps. I mean she had a t._v. Show you know we didn't have cooking videos video back then you cooking t._v. Shows and like your teaching a whole new generation how to make indian food. I mean it would it would be amazing so flattering. If i could follow in her footsteps they're they're huge monumental footsteps but yeah that that would be a dream i don't. I don't think i'm i'm mother joffrey and i don't think anyone can be but you know if i can do something some any anywhere anywhere similar to what she did for indian cooking i think i'd be really happy and as long as there's footsteps are only in two and a half and she also to bring it full circle all right pre i love you. I talk to you forever. We're gonna do a little speed round all right favorite kitchen implement. My garlic press dream vacation destination. I love to go to turkey. I've never been oldest thing in your fridge. <hes> a jar of kimchi gifted to me from a friend from how long ago like a year ago but kim cheeky think lasts forever right yeah. It's only getting better with time. If you were trapped on a desert island with one food celebrity who would it be wide celebrity probably dorie greenspan. We the <hes> we we became friends at jubilee and literally buy that dinner that we had for the speakers i was like i don't wanna go anywhere without you dory and now i'm like plotting if dory's listening this i'm trying. I'm plotting like some kind of potluck situation with you and your family and me and seth i really. I really want us to just like baked together. Yeah i think she brings it. Out and people had to interview heart the ninety second street y and then we went to dinner and by the end of the night i was like can i come live with you and your yeah. I'm just obsessed with her yeah absolutely but who would do all the work on the. I feel like you two would probably divided evenly yeah some very practical. I think yeah i i and i think she'd be a really amazing resource to have on a desert island. She seems really together. Feel you to survive for a while on the desert island. I really really do think so. We'll be right back after this quick break. Let me introduce you to traeger woodfired grills a company that has revolutionized cooking outdoors stores. I had the opportunity to see traegergrills up-close and inaction at a special event. We did the summer in the hamptons and let me tell you they are beautiful. Oh pieces of equipment some of our favorite chefs proved just how versatile and easy traegergrills are to us. We had grilled grapes. Yes you can grow grapes apes and they are so tasty they are beautifully with barada and grilled bread. We also had delicious grilled vegetables beef tenderloin that was as soft as butter and even even a stone fruit galette. I had no idea you can make baked goods on a traeger but you can traegergrills infuse your food with woodfired flavor. You can't say say that about a charcoal or gas grill cook alfresco and do it hot and fast or low and slow however you like try it on a trigger visit traegergrills dot com to learn more and now here's preez talk from our jubilee two thousand nineteen conference in new york city. Introducing korea is brooke cason who today is part of the team over at oven lee k- good morning bomb squad. My name is brooke wanting. Thank you for saying it back. You may know me as a super overzealous cherry bomb jubilee volunteer but today i also have the privilege of introducing your next speaker and i want to share a little bit about how i got to this point i go. I realize i'm not that old but growing up i didn't see a whole lot of black women in food and whenever i did it seemed like they were only interested in the slave descendants southern fried fair that my family aided like gatherings holiday social things like that and it board eight-year-old to death and my interesting cooking and creating might have completely withered and died had it not been for my mother my precious mother who she nurtured that and from the time that i could see over the countertop excuse me at her side absorbing everything that could and she was always eager to expose me different kinds of eating and let us to trout a bunch of different recipes from all over the world including getting a biblical recipe that led to a chicken dish that had forty close of garlic in it whole cloves and despite that nurture is still struggled a little bit with that newfound love. How could i be a cook how can make that a real career and not end up just another black cook whose only cooking soul food because that's all that was expected of her and how could i also shake the feeling that i was letting being down all the people that have fought so hard to make sure that i did not have to spend my whole life in the kitchen. How could i shed that skin of feeling like i had to create feasts from scraps scraps of food that were deemed only fit for human being but by the time i got to college i had none of those answers to those questions so i did what any self respecting strong black woman would do and iran iran so far and so fast that by the time i looked up i had two engineering degrees and i was looking being at a schedule of missile test firings for the upcoming year so that was great and then i thought about the eight year old me that fell in love with cooking looking it was excited to try her first vegan entree and she was disappointed in me and i realized that i let my fear of somebody telling me that couldn't completely overcome the only thing that bought me joy so i couldn't stand that idea of letting myself down. Even though it was eight year old i couldn't stand the idea so i quit my job and i moved out of my dad's house and i moved four states away role in culinary school and i also applied to a bunch of restaurants that had no business hiring me because if i was going to do it i was going to go all in you know it's going to do it right and nine months later i emerged from culinary school stronger more stronger like mentally and physically than i had ever been and i had that confidence knowing that nobody can tell me no you can't because i had had a piece of paper now that said yes you can and i was excited to be seen as just a cook and not black cook but then i was sort of uncomfortable with that excitement like why what's wrong with being seen as black like why am i so eager hellbent on not being seen as black and why should i have to be shy about hiding where i come from. And how do i still come off as palatable the people who come from somewhere else so how do i find that balance between my heritage and my true self and someone who still struggles with that balance. I'm really really really excited to hear from our next speaker pre krishna and her newest cookbook indian she explores the intersection between her indian heritage and her american upbringing and to me she is a shining example of how to take responsibility for the proper spread of knowledge about a cuisine that can sometimes fall victim to appropriation and at the same sometimes she reminds us all that one of the best things about being an american is getting experienced the blend of cultures that has become american culture so as the world has gotten smaller our exposure exposure all those cuisines has gotten larger and sometimes it blurs the line between proper tribute and uninformed parody especially in an industry that i feel like suffers from lack of inclusion lesion and voices like prius have become and will continue to be the standard for making sure everybody feels like they have a seat at the table so now here there is pretty krishna on the importance of diversity inclusion and knowing your own history the high so when i started my career you're as a food writer the first piece of advice most people gave me. Was this find a specialty. It's not good enough to just be focused august on food you have to be someone's go to on a topic whether it's tea or ice cream or pastries the problem was i didn't know what my specialty was. I just pitched every kind of idea i could think of. I would pitch stories about restaurant dishes. I loved ingredient trends interesting. People will pitch stories of course about indian food because that's what i knew <hes> a profile of my family's grocery store patel brothers a guide to shut knees and a chargers and one thing i noticed was that without fail. Nearly all of my pitches about indian stuff would get accepted for my other stories stories. I was far less successful. It was kind of disappointing. I didn't just want to write about though says i had broader loftier ambitions. I felt token nice. I got my foot in the door. Places like the new york times and not writing about indian food but at times i felt i wasn't good enough to write about other things but i was a freelancer who had just quit her full time job. I needed to pay rent. This paid the bills. This is also a time when hipster coffeeshops were starting to turn <music> out turmeric lotus and hipster. Yoga instructors were preaching about iran getting their chuck rosalind these things that existed in india for centuries and yet. They're only getting attention when white people talked about them. I thought if i have this opportunity i should take it. If i wasn't going to be the authority on indian culture churchgoer who would be instead some white guy who still says chai tea and ghee butter and our field the question soon of who gets to write cook and be authority on what is something that comes up a lot. I think about it literally every day i think about when i see a profile of a lady who started not company claiming to have discovered chai or a video that tells you you're eating wrong. We're all told in school that when we reference a statistic we have to cite it it so why when it comes to food culture and recipes are we so bad at giving credit to other communities when it's due one big solution. This isn't isn't rocket science. Do your research when you have a new ingredient or writing on a community. That's different from your own. Give credit on recipes or credit is due have someone from the culture. You're writing about your story or read or your dish. A taste understand the context of what you're writing or cooking and don't take that context for granted. The flip side of this of course is that publications which are mostly still run by white people often feel like they can't write about other cultures without being called out for appropriation operation ended up being chock full of roast chicken and pasta recipes. American food is only seen as white food. Everything else is the other and writers of color or further pigeonholed into only writing about their heritage. Here's a fix to that to hire. People from all backgrounds from different from different ethnicities different socioeconomic status is different parts of the country in the world so the more perspective is represented in the kitchen or publication. The less these places will token is food that don't fit under what i like to call the boneless skinless chicken breast genre genre the more inclusive our respective restaurants and companies will feel the more normalized it will be curry leaves and todd diag- and food to be part of the mainstream mainstream food conversation but as people of color were not off the hook. I realized that part of the reason being pigeonholed into running indian food is because those words on my best pitches. I know indian food. Those are the ideas that felt the most nuanced my other ideas just didn't go deep enough. I didn't know the subject matter well enough. I i started putting a little more reporting into my pitches. I made phone calls read local news. I would go down the rabbit holes. I got to write about the opioid crisis in kentucky the intersection section between pastry and architecture some of my favorite pieces i've ever written but i did tons of research in the lead-up. I criticize white dudes all the time for writing in a misinformed informed way about indian food but just because they're the only one they're the ones doing this most often. It doesn't mean that no one else is prone to making those mistakes. We all have to do our homework. When the discussion for cookbook indiana i started editor seem the most jazzed about doing something indian. I was really hesitant. My first chris cookbooks about dining hall food into this day. People still think it was an indian cookbook. I wanna do something that was personal about the food that i grew up eating but i didn't. I want the word indian in title. I hated the idea that this book would be slotted end with all the other international or ethnic cookbooks in stores and that it couldn't sit alongside side the djilas in fact i put india nash on the proposal and then underneath i wrote better title coming soon because i was out of ideas but also like unwilling to have the word indian in the title but it turned out publisher's really love that title as i started to think about it it was a fitting way to describe. My family's identity were indian heritage. We speak in the at home. We watch way too many bollywood movies. We eat a lot of the all but we're also american we <hes> <hes> where are printed pants with hurry merch necklaces. We made it all the way to season ten of american idol. We adore pizza hut garlic bread off. I made the subtitle of the book recipes and antics <unk> modern american family because this book doesn't just have veneer in kittery it has dumped cake and dip and and pizza and all the things that make our food our food. This is not an international book. It's as american as it gets and yet. Have i been asked. Where is the curry. Hurry in the book or told that my recipes most of which have five to ten ingredients are too difficult for the readers of a publication that regularly publishes twenty ingredients sandwich recipes and receive a response to a pitch that read. We've told a lot of immigrants stories that really similar to this so we can't cover your book. Yes on all counts. I was on a panel two days ago and someone came up to me and uttered the words. Stay in your lane still happens i'd like to i think that things are slowly but surely getting better. The james beard award winners last year. We're more diverse than ever. We have several major critics that are women of color. These are evolutions shinzo. That'll help build a more inclusive world food writing and cooking but there's still a lot that needs to be changed. Mastheads can't all be people from the same background around the same part of the country. The people that are looked to as culinary greats can't all be old white dudes. There should never ever ever be an award called best female chef the. I don't think i'm even close to having all the answers but here's what i hope i hope that as women as one of those historically marginalized groups i will go out of our way to make respective work environments more inclusive on all levels. I hope that when we ascend to leadership roles will lift up others who who aren't in those privileged positions. I hope that we'll patronize. Input on our publications lists the kinds of restaurants and shops that maybe don't have the p._r. Resources of a big company but are no less deserving of our attention. I hope for a day when you travel is as normalizes spaghetti and meatballs and cookbook or food magazine some days. I feel like these goals are really far away but today being here in this room with all of you is not one of those days thanks. That's it for today. Show thank you so much debris for sitting down with me for her. Fantastic talk at jubilee. If you don't have a copy of indian ish what are you waiting for. Make sure to grab a copy wherever you get your cookbooks. Thank you also briefcase in for her wonderful introduction. We're so oh happy to have you on the bomb squad. 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Mindy Kaling

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Mindy Kaling

"Thanks for listening to fresh air. We'd like to better understand who is listening. And how you are using podcasts. Please help us out by completing a short anonymous survey at NPR DOT ORG slash podcast. Survey one word. It takes less than ten minutes and really help support the show that's NPR dot org slash podcast survey word from whyy in Philadelphia. I'm terry gross with fresh air today. Mindy kaeling she's the Co Creator and main writer of a new comedy series on net. Flix called never have I ever. Kaelin drew on her experiences in highschool to write the series. The main character Davy is a high school sophomore. Who Liked Kaeling is the daughter of Indian? Immigrants were Hindu. Dave is one of the smartest students in the school but is considered too nerdy to be popular and although she prays literally praised for a boyfriend. She's not close to having one killing. I became known for her role on the office. As Kelly Kapoor now that the office is syndicated and streaming. It's one over a new generation of viewers and a new set of killing fans. We'll talk about killings coming of age. Her comedy and being a diversity higher which inspired her film late night my guest Mindy Kaeling Co created and is the main writer of a new netflix series. Called never have I ever that draws on her own experiences when she was in high school it was described in Vanity Fair as breezy and delightful practically built for quarantine marathon watching killing. I became known for her role in the office. As Kelly Kapoor she was also a writer and producer of the series. She was an executive producer and star of the series. The Mindy Project. She wrote last year's movie late night in which he starred as the diversity higher in the writer's room late night TV show. Let's start with a scene from never have I ever the main character? Davy is the daughter of immigrants from India. The family lives in. La and David has just started her sophomore. At Sherman Oaks High School. She's one of the schools top students and is considered nerdy and unpopular in praise for a boyfriend. Her freshman year was a disaster. Her father died of a heart attack while attending a classical music concert. She performed in soon after her legs became suddenly and mysteriously paralyzed and she had to use a wheelchair which didn't help her status at school. The paralysis ended swiftly and mysteriously as it began her father's death and a brief paralysis are subjects. She doesn't talk about in this scene from episode four. Davy is introducing herself to a college counselor. Who's married to one of her? Mother's friends counselor. Specializes in helping students get into Ivy League schools. The kind of school Davey is striving. For the voice over you'll briefly here by John McEnroe who narrates Davies story throughout the Series Davies? Played by trae e Ramakrishnan. I just wanted to say how interested in procuring your services. Your stats are amazing. I don't know I only got twenty eight kids into Ivy's last year when I wanted thirty the other two went to mit. But you can't win more. Well I guess I can't relate because I do when I'm all I'm in. Ap classes and got a perfect score on my psat. Great Segue Davey effortless. All volunteering at the Kidney Dialysis Center. When I'm not doing that I read Vietnam. Vets there bill O'Reilly books. Okay look I can say this because I married an Indian woman and a proud member of this vibrant community but schools don't want another Indian. Try Hard who is president of the petted resume club. What we know failure is what keeps me up at night. Colleges want kids with unusual stories. I had this kid you got into a car. Crash was did a full thirty seconds. He said God told him to go to Yale. It worked. I outgrew nut allergy. So that's something I actually know who you are you. You're the girl whose dad died in front of her to conserve became paralyzed. David couldn't believe that the major trauma for life could be reduced to a single sentence but there it was. Yeah what about that? Story is freaking amazing. You have the golden ticket. If you're willing to talk about it. I Bet I can get you in school. You want but David didn't WANNA use a story of her father's death as a way to make herself more interesting to a bunch of admission committees. No I'm not GONNA do that well without it. I don't get your angle to be honest out. See how you'd be different than any other Indian kid applying to college. I'm not like any other teen kid and I'm not interesting just because my dad died. What makes you interesting? Oh I don't know Ron. Maybe it's my perfect grades or my killer test scores. Maybe is my bitch and personality or mind. Same powerpoint skills. I don't need some washed up. White Dude who leases a tesla telling me what makes me special. Recent is still a financial commitment in my monthly. Payment is quite Mindy Kaeling. Welcome back to fresh air. Congratulations on your new series. Before we talk about the series. How are you doing great? I mean it. Is that callous to say in this time? It's a lot of spending time with my daughter and failed recipe making catch but Given how terrible it is out there. I have to say I feel very lucky and happy to be And at home how is it changing? Your life is a mother. Well it's really increasing my time ism there so I I am at home with her all the time with my two year old and so she is over the moon. I think I was more of a mysterious guest star in her life before this and so now I'm really here being domestic. I think she likes it and I like it too. Why did you want to create a series where the main character is? A sophomore in high school was that a turning point year for you to the story of why we did. This show is a little bit unromantic and that I was approached by Netflix by an executive named Brooke Kessler who read both of my books and loved the sections about when I was a teenager and those are pretty short sections because like a lot of comedy writers. I think of my adolescence and childhood is incredibly embarrassing painful but she liked those actions and she had seen that I had not dramatized them and so she wanted to know if I would ever consider that and she thought it'd be a good fit for Netflix. Because there had never been a show about an American girl on TV and at first I thought it would be too painful and embarrassing to relive those experiences and it ended up being very cathartic because I hired a staff of many young Indian women and we talked about our teenage years. Which will happen at different times? Obviously because I'm older than most of the staff they're all they're all in their twenty s because we wanted to get young perspective and it made me feel that all this stuff. I was going through as a teenager. I was not alone. Fifteen is a good year. I think to start a show because it's when you think you can handle things like Saxon relationships and going off to college but you really can't and having a character with a big ego who thinks she knows what her life has has in store for her. We just felt like there was a good year. Also we had enough of high school. After that we could dramatize the show for years to come. Oh I see 'cause she she's a sophomore now. There could be the second semester and semester junior and then senior. Yes we have thirty years thirty years at least to do. The show could apology afterwards. Yeah exactly so in the Grad School. We see her in a series. Her father has a heart attack while attending concerts performing in and he dies and that's incredibly traumatic and then you're the the main character. Has this mysterious leg paralysis. That lasts for a few weeks or a few months. Where did that storyline come from? I nothing like that happened to you. Did it now? It didn't happen to me. It happened to the brother of my co-creator laying Fisher so when we were talking about the series. We're there are so many teenage series on Netflix. And actually just out there about love and sex and all of that and we were both really interested because we had parents that died unexpectedly in talking about grief and how grief manifest itself and her brother After her parents got divorced had about four months when his legs were paralyzed and then all of a sudden they started working again and they went to every doctor and they're willing to every psychologist and it was this mysterious thing and then when that happened in researching it. This is something that happens to people. Particularly young people sometimes after trauma so that was Hard to resist as something to talk about and after she spoke to her brother and got permission we felt we wanted to use it in this series because we thought it was a a really fascinating physical manifestation of a teenagers grief. So you know you mentioned that you and your Cook Creator. Both lost parents unexpectedly. Your mother died in around twenty twelve. Twenty eleven of pancreatic cancer like motor some of the ways. Her death informed how you wrote the series and actually a lot of unexpected ways lang and I and other writers who've lost parents got to speak about that grief and unique circumstances that we thought were only asked like we we found between the two of us in another writer. There these instances after our parents died that we would have dreams about them where they were alive in in the dreams. We would ourselves say wait. You're dead how are you talking to me? And they said No. I got better and so when you talk to to other people a read a comedy writers room and they've all had this eerie similar experience post their parent's death. It is first of all strange because we're coming from and it's not funny at all but also like wow okay well. This might be happening to other people as well. So those are things that we put in the script as well as dreaming about your parents and also the peculiar way that your relationship with your parent exists. Even after they've died. And that's something. I've talked to a lot of people that they feel that way. Spiritual or not spiritual atheist or not a lot of people have that same experience and so we wanted to put that in the show too so The main character has two best friends. One of them is Chinese American one of them's African American the main characters indian-american and so they're known as the UN and she assumes that means United Nations you know but she is also told it's for a much more negative reason because they're all UN- affable So where were you called anything like that when you were in high school? You know. I'm sure I was. I never discovered that to my face. I'm absolutely sure there is tons of mean nicknames for me because I would hear me nicknames about other nerdy girls who were not me and you know there is a tall girl. I went to school with. Who is very beautiful? Actually but she was tall and because all the boys are shorter than her and that made them insecure. They called her Bista and she had no idea that was her nickname. And so when you hear about things like that I mean that's such a cruel nickname We just thought these girls have to have as an. That's been a real reflection of me in high school and my friend laying as well where we were nerds. And I'm Asian so we were just gravitated. I don't know whether it's comfort we gravitated towards other minority nerds and it wasn't something I'd seen on TV before. I thought well you know this is my real experience. So maybe we should show it. Were you a serious student like the main character is? It's funny you ask that because I was a serious student but one thing we noticed when we see shows about nerds is that because they tend to be a lot of side characters. They tend to be very demure in wildflowers. They don't want to speak up for themselves. And that's definitely a kind of nerd that was at my school but there's also like the belligerent confident nerd. They want big things for themselves and even though they're not getting it it doesn't mean that they don't think they deserve it and Lang who is also an an over achieving net who then went to an Ivy League school. We both had the same experience and we wanted to show an ambitious nerd. Socially wanted to lose their virginity wanted to be cool. Go to concerts And of course never happened for either of us but we thought that would be fun to show you know. They're not all sad quiet bookworm other. We were also those things but we were like loud and Ramona's and opinionated were you belligerent. I think at times I think that when you are interested in comedy at a young age and you don't know how to express it I think that you. I think that I'm not sure. Bullet is exactly the right word. I do think that I stopped for myself. A Lot In a way that probably put people off certainly boys Yeah did you have a temper? Liquor character does definitely and I still have a temper now. And it's it's interesting being Asian. Because they think that you don't associate Asian women with having tempers and so so many of us do right so that's not the stereotype about us. So I was thrilled. Do a show about a lot of short fused Asian women and To show that side of us. Did you have boyfriends in high school because your main character boyfriend? Thank you for even posing the question of course. The answer's no it's ridiculous even asked the question but it was very polite of you. I'll say no of course. Not Terry we're kind of boyfriend. Did you dream of? What kind of boyfriend did I? Dream of You know there's so many different kinds of one was kind of there's this term we use in our writer's Room. I think we started at the office called NBC handsome which is kind of like Zach. Braff Adam Brody a you know kind of like Brown haired floppy haired. Guy Who is unsure of himself a little bit but kind of confident and super-quick and probably grew up in the tri-state area so for me. That was who I thought was good looking and attractive because I felt like they weren't cool. Blonde jock this was like a a sensitive guy who you know probably went to an east coast liberal arts school and he could handle my indianness and that's kind of what I was drawn to do. Maybe Jewish you know like that kind of thing could handle spicy Indian food without saying it was too hot or something so since we've established that you have a temper. Has It ever gotten you into serious trouble or did did you do something like so out of Control? That you were really ashamed. Afterwards there were a lot of times when it would flare up what I was the office because that was when I was so green to that I I didn't understand the hierarchical nature of a writer's room and so you know I also had a big chip on my shoulder because I was at least the first or the only woman and for a while the only minority like fulltime writer that was there and so I It would flare up. A lot of the good news is that my boss and my mentor was was this very forgiving. Greg Daniels and I've talked about him before and her show. But he was someone who is the opposite he's inherited. He's very methodical in kind and thoughtful. And I think he kind of was his responsibility to be patient with me about those things. And that's actually something that now when I have so many younger riders many of whom are minorities are young women like. I have really been confronted with okay. We have to kind of do a greg did because my natural inclination is someone is fighting with me. And I'm their boss is to quell it by screwing them but now I I really try to remember what Greg did and try to replicate that as much as I can. In this series the main character meets a friend who is now at Princeton. Which is one of the places that your character would like to end up in after high school and she tells him of Sheikh. She's a princeton away from home she'd be come an atheist and he'd burgers and have a white boyfriend but her friend who actually is it. Princeton says well. He thought maybe he feel that way too but he has a native American roommate which has made them think a lot more about his own Indian heritage. Did you go through an experience like that yourself? Yeah must exactly my best friend from college. One of my small group of Friends is native from Montana and when we got to college I was not part of the Indian Alliance Group It didn't occur to me to be part of that but she became very big in the native Americans like student coalition and they would have Palau's and they she would live in she lived in the Nat House which is the native American housing and she was so Proud to be native and she was so proud to share it with her friends and I remember feeling really embarrassed about that because I I didn't have that relationship with being Indian or Hindu and we went to visit her in Montana and went to the reservation where she grew up and she would very probably say growth on the rise. I can't wait for you to meet my friends at I grew up with and I felt kind of ashamed. I thought like you know. Why is she so proud of this and Never Americans is country have been through so much more than I think Indian Americans have and she's so of it and maybe that's the reason why actually that she was Is there's like defiance in it but I did not have that same relationship with being Indian and I remember being really ashamed. That's a moment that we put into the Ganesh Pooja episode as her wondering why she has that relationship with her faith and with culture so we were talking about. You didn't have a boyfriend in highschool and your character. So far is kind of striking out did. Did your parents have strict views about dating or sex when you were growing up? And how did how did their views compared to what you want it and how you behaved. Well it's so funny. Bring that up. I was I was talking about this the other day. Because it was a real paradox. There was we were told overtly that no one was allowed to date while they were in high school Not that there's anybody knocking on my door or anything like that. But that was a real rule that was not allowed to have a boyfriend at the same time. My mother really wanted me to dress very feminine league. Get my eyebrows done. She was totally fine with us. Going to Sephora to buy makeup doing my hair and I was very important to her so it was. It was interesting. She wanted to me to be kind of conventionally attractive and girly I would even say more so than other moms but then also shut the door on any kind of me having any romantic possibilities in high school which I thought was interesting. Well how do you reconcile those two ideas making you more feminine as attractive as possible but not warning you to have intimate relationships with boys? I think she wanted me to be perfect so she wanted me to be a beautiful and for people to want to be friends with me and for people to think I was attractive but then also Pristine and not having a physical relationship with boy which let me underline would never have happened anyway but but so that everybody would want to be my friend and I think it was attractive and pretty also had was just this very focused hard working kid who just wanted to go to college Get into a great school and I think that is something that would have made a really proud I was fifty percent of that. So you know I was the hard working kid got I wasn't the other thing but you know I I tried would you have gone against your parents wishes about sex. How you have the opportunity which you've made it clear your heartbeat in a heartbeat. If Adam Brody Ted if my pitcher about him brody from Nineteen ninety-four wanted me to go to become his steady girlfriend. Oh I would have died. Had this like stealthy deceit filled romantic relationship with him while also taking AP classes. I mean it was my dream to have it all but you know that that did not happen. So let me reintroduce you here. If you're just joining us my guest is Mindy killing and her new series never have I ever just started streaming on net flicks. She was also a writer and producer on the series. The office and Played Kelly. Kapoor reading to talk more after we take a short break. I'm Terry Gross. And this is fresh air support for NPR and the following message come from best fiends. Have more time on your hands. Connect with family and friends and engage your brain with fun puzzles by downloading best means the five star rated mobile puzzle game with over one hundred million downloads. The game is updated monthly so there are always new levels to play events to master and cute characters to collect and you can play without an Internet connection download best fiends for free on the apple APP store or Google play today. That's friends without the our best fiends. Let's get back to my interview with Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which just started streaming on. Netflix DRAWS. Some of her own high school experiences. It's about a sophomore in high school named Davey whose parents are from India. David is one of the schools best students but wishes she was one of the most popular. She's far from it. She's considered nerdy an attractive killing. I became known for her role on the office. As Kelly Kapoor she was also a writer and producer of this series. She starred in the series the MINDY PROJECT LAST YEAR. She started the movie comedy late night as the diversity higher in the writer's room of a late night. Tv show. She also wrote the movie when I interviewed you in twenty twelve. You mentioned and I don't remember what the context is. You mentioned that you're interested in the prejudices. That minorities have against other minorities. And you thought that that was a really good comedy era area and you work that into your new series in that. There's a an Indian woman who decided not to get the arranged marriage. She was supposed to have and she married a Muslim man and then they divorced and none of the women in this particular Indian community. WanNa talk with her because she had married him Muslim man. Is that an example of what you were talking about. In terms of prejudices. Some minorities have about other minorities of course in India in India can doozer not a minority but in America they are. Yeah absolutely. I think that is definitely an example of that. I have seen firsthand the racism that Hindus feel towards Muslims. Because of you know it's it's it's weird to inherit a prejudice because it's something that's based in India. You know because I think it's about Kashmir issues and issues. That table is in India. And then you're supposed to inherit them when you're When you're here too and so we that character felt Really true to my childhood. And my life of a woman who'd made a choice and then was a shunned because of it and what you find funny about those tensions. I find it funny because to the average white American. We're probably the same. The you know this is like to me. It's really narcissism of small differences to average American person looking at someone who's dark skin Indian Hindu person in a dark skin in Muslim person. I don't think anyone thinks there's a big difference between me. And as he's on sorry but his family you know he's I think atheist but his family is Muslim and his dad grew up in this same town. My Dad grew up in in south India but my dad's Hindu. So there's this you know the giant chasm for people who are Indian about about our different families but to the outside personnel. Both Indian as he's in mindy are they related to each other probably like that's I find that comical so for you and is on. Sorry it's more of a bond than a difference. Yes Yeah we've actually talked about it too. I think when he started on Parkson Rack and I had been on the Office. We got so many tweets where people said. Oh they should be together they should date and it was like why because reading to Indian people on NBC. So I think it's funny when our communities try to find lots of different reasons why we're so different when you know a majority of probably this country things were identical. Yeah so you ended up going to Dartmouth College You got your degree in play writing and then you went to New York and started doing. Stand up what was the comedy scene like than what year are we talking? This is I moved just before Nine eleven so this is the fall of two thousand one until two thousand four is when I was in New York so frightening time to start a new life on your own in New York. Yeah you know that experience being there for that it really. You know because we weren't able to use the subway. Even I mean if that post nine eleven New York was it was. We didn't have jobs so we would walk across the Brooklyn Bridge just after because we and we walked to the village we'd spend like an hour and a half walking from Brooklyn to different restaurants to try to get you know waitressing gigs. You know his twenty one. I don't know why I would think it felt normal but everyone else my age is doing the same thing so so when you started trying out comedy stand up comedy in New York. What was your material like? I remember thinking okay. I do not want to be pegged as an ethnic comedian. I shorten my name because Emcees for these comedy shows would have trouble pronouncing it and then they'd make a joke about my last name. What was that I never wanted to Line real name is Vera Mindy Choke Allingham and its Indian name and it's a long name and as a performer. These comedians would just butcher it and then be like I don't know what it is. Just this girl mindy and so I would go do stand up and I already felt like a huge distance from the audience just as a new comedian but then even more distance because it had been made so clear that I was ethnic. And then you know when you to comedy everyone from Albert Brooks you know Woody Allen. These are all comedians who changed their names and I felt it was the easiest thing for me to do ultimately it was really beneficial to to do it and it was something that I had like a lot of mixed feelings about but my parents didn't mind I talked to them about it and then I ended up shortening in it and I have to say and I say this bittersweet but I have to say it was such a help to my career tavern name that people could pronounce So you didn't WanNa do ethnic material. So what was your material like Really bad observational. Like poor man's like Jerry Seinfeld observations about New York and my life. It was honestly trying to be so many different things. I Love Jerry Seinfeld so I try to do material like him. I Love Sarah. Silverman's detracted immaterial like like her and ultimately you can't do go into Santa comedy trying to do someone else's act very poorly so I gave up doing it. I think only probably did stand up for a year and a half and even during that it wasn't a concentrated time I would go. Do Open makes once every two weeks. If the real reason I did it was. It was my only way to dip my toes into the waters of comedy. That was free and accessible. Because you couldn't just be like. Hey I want to go for Saturday night live. Can you just like have me come do it? And there wasn't You know programs in place to discover talent that were You know didn't necessarily look like what they already had. So it was. My only access was through. Stand up because it was accessible and free when you're in college. You had an internship on late night with Conan. O'brien how did you get that? I remember because this was Before twitter before instagram they had a page in the very early nineteen ninety nine the very early NBC website and it was little. I think it was just like. Nbc Dot Com backslash internships and. They had their list of shows. And you'd Click on it and then you would just send a fax. I went to the Kinko's in like an into Hanover. Have like a like a Kinko's open from nine to four and so I just printed out my high. My College resume which was less than half a page and I just sent it with a cover letter to this number and then two weeks later. We got a call on like landline. My dorm so it was. One of those things is hard. Remember nearly like you don't know that anyone received your resume. You don't know If you're ever hear anything back there's no you know receipts. I didn't you know an email or anything. So that's how I did it and I had to then interview. I had to go to New York to interview with the head of the intern program which was like a fifteen minute interview. But I got to go to thirty rock. That experience of going there by myself was the one of the most glamorous experiences of my life. But I wasn't in the raiders. Jim I got to interact with the raiders. I got to take their lunch orders. Not Dino deliver photocopies to them. But I didn't. I wasn't able to sit in the raiders in hero. Here how they made the show. Let me reintroduce you here. If you're just joining us my guest is Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which started streaming on Netflix. We'll talk more after we take a short break. This is fresh air. The biggest story in the world is a science story and keeping up with all the latest corona virus research. It's a lot. So on shortwave. We translate the science you need to know into short daily episodes. Listen and subscribe to shortwave from NPR. Let's get back to my interview with Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never I ever which has now streaming on net flicks. She got her start on the series. The office playing Kelly Kapoor. She was also a writer and producer on the series so last year you had a movie called late night in which you played an aspiring comic who gets a job basically. She's the minority higher for late night. Tv show tonight show. Connor show that that's been hosted for thirty years by a woman played by Emma Thompson and Emma. Thompson's character has become kind of out of touch with what people especially younger people find funny She's very arrogant But she's told by the executives than the the show becomes more relevant in the ratings pickup. She's out so to shake things up a little bit figures okay. We'll do a minority hires. She hires us. It's not like she has any faith in you. It's kind of like you're hired. And then you have to deal with an all white male writers room and a host to is pretty condescending. Were you a diversity higher when you started working on the office. Yes yes proud diversity higher and do you think like that was a successful diversity? Higher like you were hired to add diversity. Diversity was needed and you turned out to be exceptionally talented. So it was kind of I mean. Do you see that as a win win. Win for the office and a win for you definitely. I think the program was invaluable and I think that. Nbc was at that time. The only one of the major networks. That was doing something like that at the time. I didn't think so At the time I thought it was really humiliating. Actually because the way that that works is a diversity. Higher is no cost to the show so when you get hired And you're a minority and through the NBC Diversity Hiring Program you know that the NBC is paying the cost of your salary. Not The show. So that's why the show is incentivized to hire minorities and What ends up happening. There's this phenomenon that would happen there. Is that a writer get hired for a year and then they only pay your salary the first year so if you are going to continue on for second year. They won't pay her salary anymore. So you'd have this phenomenon on these shows because other network started doing the same thing where you'd have a minority writer who is a staff writer. Which is the entry level writing job? And then the next year there'd be a different staff writer because it to promote them the show would have to take on the cost of staff so everybody knows that this is the case so when you go into a show your biggest sensitivity is that everyone thinks the only reason you were hired is because you were free whereas everyone else had. They had to pay good money for them. And I don't know whether how much people are actually thinking about that or whether that was just in my head but it was just one of these subtle ways that I felt that I was a little bit less than the other writers. But it's tricky right because the programs incredible and it got me into the business and many other people who now have have nice careers in Hollywood. Yeah it's it's a complicated thing I that's why I wrote the movie late night because I wanted to talk about it. The office is having this huge resurgence. Misuse Renaissance. It's I think. Sound like three different channels including comedy central. There's like marathons. What impact is that having on a new seeing that security is like not only back on TV. But it's pretty popular you know. It's incredible it's funny. How many fourteen fifteen year old kids will come up to me at the airport? Because they've been cheated on net flicks and they've seen everything I mean. I remember about three or four years ago. I got a call from one of my agent saying hey this young singer. Songwriter would love to sample a section of one of your episodes. I think you wrote it in your voice in it as Kelly demand if they do that she's like an l. a. based indie singer Songwriter. And I said yes. Sure that's fine. She and I just assigned something and it was Billy Bush and she wrote a song called. It was called my strange addiction. Which is one of her big hits and the song samples different parts of the office because she loves the show so much in fact she would even say it's not love it's like she's obsessed with the show and she seen. I think she seemed the entire series from season one to season nine all the way through like four or five times and so she wrote a song about it and I'm sampled in it and I didn't. I didn't understand who she was at the time. So attack this real impact on this this younger generation. It's been great because that's not a show that I think could be made now or not. I think there's just a heightened sensitivity now to viewers. That wasn't there when the show came out. But it's it's strange right because the show is more popular now than it was. I think even than when we first certainly the first season of the show where we really struggled I think that network executives the way that Michael Scott behaves in the kind of stuff that he says. I think they would have a real fear that there would be blogs and articles and petitions written against them. I remember in the first season of the office. There is a joke where diversity day where Michael is talking to a Mexican American character named Oscar and he says you know Oscar. You're Mexican in an Oscar. Says he has no pride Mexican says well. Is there a term you would like to use it less offensive? And then he's like then Mexican and he's like there isn't anything offensive. And it's this. It's this big it's a it's a very like icon. Michael Scott Joke. But I can't see you know I'm creating shows now I can't see that being okay with a lot of heads of studios and networks to have that kind of show and the reason why the joke is funny because this character has this is so sweetly bigoted you know and I think. That'd be hard to reconcile. Now how can you care to be so bigoted but you still cheer for him and you still want him to become a better person. And I think there's so much fear now of a bad reaction from people that they don't want to take those kind of creative risks and do you think that that's a shame I do i. I'm not offended by very much. But then again I have also not been marginalized a lot of ways that people are so it's tricky. I grew up loving comedy. I give people the benefit of the doubt so general. I'm less offended but at the same time There are people who are you know? I'm I think I'm very lucky. But it's too bad because I I do think the show is very funny and I don't think you know having been there. I do not think it was made by people who are trying to be offensive or push forth you know bad a- bad agendas so it. I think it's too bad jokes about how clueless Michael is. It's it's yeah it's it's not an insult against Being Mexican I. It's it's a joke about how Michael never gets it right but Michael is also the lead of the show and the person who's point of view or often the one you hope finds love and and I think that would maybe be problematic now whereas if he was a side character that was supposed to be like the racist guy that would be a little bit easier to stomach but he was the person in power but in madman wrong. You know I'm often surprised at what's on. Tv and I just think that sometimes network since studios underestimate what Americans can handle and how sophisticated they are what they watch and has a fear that people will misinterpret a joke or you know. Be like very sensitive in a way that you hadn't expected. Has that been inhibiting your writing in any way. That's such a good question you know we. There's so much in. Never have I ever. That could be construed as offensive but because I think the lead is what people would call like marginalized person like a young Indian American girl. I think we're able to get away with stuff. Because of certain powerlessness that that demographic hasn't society honestly so I think it's easier for our character to lash out or her mother to say things that could potentially be offensive. Because it's like okay. Well you know they don't have a ton of power in this country right now and in terms of other shows I think with why I think students in our could be shy about doing that as I think honestly getting cancelled like. I'm not getting handled like in terms of TV terms but the cancel culture and litigation And fearing that. We're going to be you know the networks going to be the next woody allen getting dropped by His Book Publisher. Tina like for for something that they did. So I do think there's a lot of fear about that stuff that was not there in two thousand four when we started the show. Let's take another show break here. If you're just joining us. My guest is Mindy Caling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which just started streaming on net flicks. We'll talk more after we take a short break. This is fresh air. The world is in a dark place. Find a light with. Npr's hidden brain stories and long-form interviews to brave uncertain times insights to understand yourself hidden brain. Listen and subscribe support for. Npr comes from whyy presenting the podcast. Eleanor amplified and adventure series. Kids love here reporter. Eleanor Atwood crafty villains and solve mysteries as she travels the globe to get the big story available where you get podcasts. Or at WHYY DOT Org. This is fresh air. Let's get back to my interview with Mindy Kaeling. She Co created and is the main writer of the new series. Never have I ever which is now streaming net flicks. She got her start on the series. The office playing Kelly Kapoor. She was also a writer and producer on the series. When you are on our show in twenty twelve your mother had died within the previous year and we had talked about that. A little bit and you. You had mentioned that when your mother was dying. She had pancreatic cancer and the cancer really changed her. And that nearly a year after her death you were still having trouble remembering your mother from before. She got sick as the memories of her being sick. We're still so vivid in your mind and I knew exactly what you meant because I went through the same thing with my mother when she was very sick with cancer. And I'm wondering if the images of your pre-cancer mother have come back to you as vividly as the post cancer images while I am. I'm not happy that you can relate but it is always so nice when someone who's been through the same thing understands what you're talking about and I was scared for years. That would be the only way that I remember my mother which was sick and tired and bedridden. But I will say that. In having some distance from the time that she's died in particularly by having a daughter I have been able to let that that part of her life kind of recess in my memory and more of more of her as when I was a teenager. And how funny and vibrant and she was when she was in her forties and fifties like that was now has taken over much more of my imagination but having a kid is great. Because I now see my mother as a young mother because I see her through my daughter's eyes of me and so that's been really helpful. 'cause I can ask questions about my mom to my father about her as a young mother and he you know. I'm learning so much more about her. Which is which is great. One of what is what's one of the things that you learned that you didn't know you know just in terms of her schedule because she was an Obgyn who had two small children. And I'd just logistics about her life like you know and as my dad. How did she do this? Spend time with with us and then go and she and he would always say that recently. He told me that she would wake up at five and make all of our food for the week in the in that morning or for like the next two days anyway and then come into our crib and say goodbye to us and then you know kiss us and then leave and then we wouldn't see her until sometimes she wouldn't. We wouldn't even see her that entire day but we'd see her the next day but just hearing about her morning schedule Was Fascinating in your book. Why not me you tell the story about your mother but how you gotTa Trophy at Camp and your mother took it away can you? Can you describe the story? Sure I was in basketball camp and I was terrible at basketball. Which surprising to probably no one but at the end of the basketball camp I got a I think it was a participation trophy and I brought it home and I was show proud of it and my mother Picked it up and I told her my mom about it and she said You didn't get this for doing anything. And she I think either. Throw it away or hid it away or something but it was very devastating to me as a kid that she had taken this. What I thought was like some kind of harder award for my inherent goodness and just throwing it away but that was a really big deal for her is awards and things getting hooked on the feelings of awards when you don't deserve them. I don't think she liked that about a lot of American culture in in education. Because I think there's lots of stuff like that growing up in my elementary school. I felt like there's a lot of like let's make everyone feel good just for being themselves and she did not subscribe to that at all here. So how do you reconcile higher? Mother tried to bring you up with the emphasis on boosting self esteem. And which direction do you think you're going to head in as a mother? It's more Important because I think boosting ourselves name was not important to my mom I don't think at all it was not something that occurred to her. It's so I think that for me it is more important. It's just different parenting styles. Like I I do think there is some value in In praise for you know like my daughter will do something Like she won't drop her food on the floor. I will praise her for that because I want her to feel good about not doing those things that we have. I'd have a little bit of a different parenting style than my mom. In that way I do give a lot of positive reinforcement for Simply not doing bad things and I don't think she was really that way Michaela. It's just been a pleasure to talk with you. I wish you good health during this really terrible period of the pandemic and good health to your daughter and your father and all the people who care about. Thanks Terry thank you so much for having such a pleasure talking to you as usual. Mindy tailings new series never have I ever is now streaming on net flicks tomorrow on fresh air. Our guest will be Aliya volts whose parents had a roaring business baking and selling marijuana laced brownies. Two hippies artists office workers and activists in San Francisco in the seventies her new memoir about growing up in this family in a period spanning the counterculture the early growth of the Gay Liberation Movement and the AIDS epidemic. A hope. You'll join us. We'll close with a recording by Philadelphia based tenor saxophonist. Buzi Barnes who died Wednesday of covert nineteen eighty two. He was a staple of the Philadelphia Jazz scene for decades and helped many musicians from philly. Gather start. 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The Injury

Office Ladies

1:04:20 hr | 11 months ago

The Injury

"I'm Jenna Fischer. I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friend and now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you each week. We will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories. That only two people who were there can tell you where the offs ladies everybody welcome. Today we are talking about the injury good morning and you know what? Angela has an injury due like this big thing of injuries guys. I was driving yesterday and I was chewing a piece of gum gum and bit. Shut Turkey out of my tongue. It's so bad look at it. No it's really it's really bad. It's the rave vamp and I keep seeing it when I talk so it's super. It's really painful. So if during this podcast all of a sudden I 'cause I balked it. Yeah what's wrong with me? I can't chew gum and drive. I was I was on the phone with Josh. I was like and other thing. Oh my God it's really bad. I know you're really hurts. This episode was written by Mindy Caling and directed by Brian. Gordon. It is season two episode. Twelve wow yeah. So we're on this second half of season two now. There were twenty two episodes in season. Two we've done eighteen podcasts. Yeah when we hit twenty. Let's have a party okay. Like I don't know like I'll bring cupcakes or something. Why twenty nine. I don't know I think we should have a party when we for Casino night. Oh end of season two. Let's have a for number twenty three. Let's Bernie every time random numbers. We don't need a reason to have a party right. Let me do a summary. I can't even. I just start to look at my summary that I've written and it makes me laugh. This is one of our very favorite episodes. People should know that you bought a shirt because of this episode. Were it all the time I bought it off at sea? It was a foot and a grill. Real it was like a comic book strip of a person grilling their foot. I mean okay here it is. Here's the summary. Funny to be Michael Accidentally steps on his George Foreman Grill injuring his foot. Funny Dwight attempts to rescue Michael and crashes his car into a pool causing what we will find out to be a concussion. During the workday the staff does not dote on. Michael as he had expected. And Dwight's concussion sparks an unexpected friendship with Pam. I guess must have had so much fun doing that. Oh I loved it. I had so many scenes just me and rain and we bonded so much whenever you get put in a scene with someone that means. You'RE GONNA work with them for about three or four hours that day exclusively and whenever they're you know having their conversations about how the scene is going or in the brakes you get to just chat you hit to just hang out so I got two. Chitty chat a lot with rain but I just love also. I love working with rain. I mean you were so fortunate. You've got to work with them all the time all the time. All right should we get into the fast fans all right. Fastback number one. This script was originally going to be called my grilled foot my grilled foot but then they changed it so this is a standalone comedic episode. That does not forward the Jim Pam storyline in any way which was a little bit controversial. Because our last episode was Booze Cruise. Which was a huge bombshell confession by? Jim to Michael that he is in love or that he has feelings for Pam and so everyone to did to see what was going to happen. And Guess What? We did not answer that question in any way in any way so. I'm sure like the fans were like. What the heck yeah it does move forward Dwight Manual Lopate. It does have that down. It contains references to the Dwight Angela. Love Story which was Nice. It was like this. I mean we'll get to it but there are some moments in here that I just love. Yeah with Dwight Angela. No me too. This was also our highest rated episode. So far yeah. I think a lot of people tuned in after Booze Cruise. I think so. And what a great episode. Though I mean I know we didn't maybe give people what they were hoping to see with the end of the man lift hanger But we I mean comedy gold. We gave him comedy gold. Steve is so funny in this guy. He is the worst patient the worst and he made me laugh. So word. Fastback number two guests star. Marcus York Yell Aid our building manager Billy merchant. Now I have to imagine. This was a nod to creator of the British Office Stephen Merchant. I think that's where we grabbed that last name. Oh Yeah we merchant. I feel like that's true. I got to talk to Marcus yesterday. Markus thanks so much for taking time out of your day and here are a few things he shared with me. Okay so he auditioned for Alison Mundine Greg. And he said it went really really well. He was really excited. You know that moment we ever great meeting or great audition said that's felt he had been in L. A. As a working actor for awhile and he said this is one that I was like. Ooh I think I I think I got it. And he said that Greg jumped up and shook his hand he was like okay and then he was running errands. He was at Home Depot. He got the call that he got it and his his agent was like you got at news like wait a second. I'm at Home Depot after you. So he said he'll always remember that and then he said the night before had come in he was nervous and he got like no sleep. He said I got zero sleep. He said so then the next day I was freaking out because I haven't gotten any sleep and you know it's like hard to remember. Your lines is being so he was like I was really trying to wing it and I said well we couldn't tell at all like you're just such a cool customer yet your lines. You were like totally ready to go. He said and I was like going on. No sleep I got. It happens to me. Always before shoe yeah or a big day like whenever I have a big day. It's hard to sleep. And then he said that thing he wasn't prepared for this really made me laugh. He said the conference room is so small. He said it's so small and he goes and there were so many of you. It's such a small room and him and Steve read the front of the room. So we're all looking at them. You know yeah. And he said. The room was so tiny. And you send your guys at so many people in there and that actually really made me laugh and then the one other thing he said he remembered from the set a he said we were all really nice. Oh that's good but he also said the food was awesome. Yeah he said you guys know you had really good food right. He was like I bet that is true. My Dad's the same thing. After visiting. He was like man the food we really did. We had really good food. That is so nice. It was a delight talking to him and I have a few other things as the episode. Goes Okay. I love that I love that. All right should we do fastback number free do it. I feel like I need to tell you. I ran out of FACS this episode. What are your favorite episode. I know how how can you? There's only three years everybody run out. Well I did. And you're going to see here is all. I could come up with drummer. can't now oh. Air Erie Torri go. We film this episode November. Two thousand five. I know this because I save the script and it's typed on the front okay. Well listen as far as your delivery of that fast again. You could have been like guys. I saved US script out. Let me do it again. The are you ready here at. We're GONNA hear me fastback number three. I saved the script. Oh yeah that's good you get turned it around. That's better okay. All right well that's it. Let's get into it. Should we start breaking down the episode? We usually take a break. I haven't been talking that long. Do you want to take a break? I don't know it's just what we usually do. I put some numbing stuff on my tongue. I don't know how that's GonNa work out for the rest of the episode. There be very interesting all right. We'll be back to down the road. 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Yeah I told us. Just start with season two. Well I don't want straight out of order. I get that I get that I get that but I just need you to watch season to flag because I had an epiphany while watching it it changed my life and I think it's the greatest season of okay television ever made. Okay I I want to watch it I watch you. I don't believe I if you wanted to watch it you would have watched it by now. We Watch television. I fall asleep like I try to put the kids to bed. Okay we're getting off track. I A we watch about forty five minutes of television each night after we get the kids down and after we like after I play freecell on my phone and he plays online pro getting Ti. I am getting a real window. You are then we go downstairs and we watch either half of movie or TV show. That's my life everybody. It's very routine. I like will go a long time without watching television and then I will have some random day. Where just like bench watched three hours of TV? Well I'm going to clear your schedule for fleabag season two. It's going to change your life right policy pin. Yeah that's right sometimes. You have to get bossy about things and this is a okay. Okay okay all right back to our show called the office this opening scene it opens with just shots of general office life. Michael is not in the office and apparently that has put all of us in a good mood. Because we're all just milling about chatting with one another. When suddenly the phone rings Pam Answers the phone and this is when Michael explains that he's hurt. He needs Pam to pick him up. Jim puts him on speaker phone. The only person willing to rescue him. Dwight who runs out of the building and crashes his car so I have the script and as I was watching this I mean I watched the scene then I called Leeann. He had just gotten out of the shower. I was like I was like he was dripping wet. And I'm like you have to come in and watch the scene with me again because it's so good he's like a okay and I try offers. I look yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah but you have to watch this. Brilliant bit of television comedy so then. I watched it again. I must have watched this five times. That whole insane conversation was totally scripted. Line for line. That opening scene is not improvised. It's awesome that is crazy to me. The only thing that wasn't in the script was when Michael said he had a protrusion on his elbow in this cryptic. Just that hurt my elbow and only proud but that also shows that how ready John as Jim was the minute. Michael said that it wasn't in the script. John Looked camera like okay. Yeah I mean what is happening there. It's great it's fantastic so good. Now listen my folks who loved the background at the very top where we're all just milling about before the phone call happened. Yeah I'm totally not in character. Oh I saw. I'm just being me. You and Brian off over. Oscar shoulder were goofing off Brian. I remember some silly like Mu and I swat him. Yeah but as me I laugh. I laugh at him. Why totally Scott? It's really me. Well the thing is is that Oscar is out of focus. You guys are in focus in the background. You probably thought you were safe. We Oscar but no on you. We didn't know we were on camera. I saw that. That's a really good one. That happens at five seconds. Jenna I have a question for you. What at twenty seven seconds. What you're starting to break. I see you starting to break yes. I don't think so. Oh my God totally and then layer in. What am I doing? What is happening at twenty seven seconds? It's gotta be the phone call. Right down shifting. How do you know I'm not acting? Everybody thought I was breaking when Dwight was in the box. Well I think your start line break but guess what what later on you full on bracelet on break in the car. I Know Okay but anyway twenty seven seconds. It looks like you're starting to break okay. I might be at forty seven seconds. We present the greatest talking head of all time. Michaels talking head explaining how he burned his foot. This too is word for word from the script. Sam I am going to need you to pull this up. Michael explains that he loves to wake up to the smell of Bacon and then he explains how he makes that happen and it involves a George Foreman Grill on the floor of his bedroom. Six Strips of Bacon. It's brilliant. But Steve's of it he is so it's like I feel like his intention is like okay. Let me explain it to you again for everyone who can't seem to understand one last time right and then also that it's like the most normal thing ever. Yeah like what is using about. Do I need to tell you how okay this is? How you shower. Yes Okay Sam you have to find it. It's at forty seven seconds. I enjoy having breakfast in bed. I like waking up to the smell of Bacon Sumi and since I don't have a butler I have to do it myself so most nights before I go to bed. I will lay six strips of Bacon out on my George Foreman Grill. Then I go to sleep when I wake up. I plug in the grill. I go back to sleep again then. I wake up to the smell of crackling bacon. It is delicious. It's good for me. It's perfect way to start today. Today I got up. I stepped onto the grill and a clampdown on my foot. That's it I don't see what's so hard to believe that it's so good. It's so good so good since they don't have a butler Butler like everybody else. Who Wants Bacon in the morning? All of the I rolling to that he's doing it's just like oh well. He loves breakfast in bed. Loves THEM YOU HAVE TO DO my gosh. I just think it's I just think it's amazing. I have a for me. It's Healthy Essex. Faking to renew fan question from C. Was Steve Actually on the other? End of the line during the filming of the phone. Call a lot of people wrote in to ask. How do we do these phone calls? We've talked a little bit about it before. Usually they just would have someone very close off camera like in another room out when we did scenes with Moore. She was usually just in the conference. Room calling into Steve's office I duNno where they put Steve here but he was there it was live we could you know when he'd said Protrude Herranz John React. Yeah yeah that is fantastic. I have a question for you. During this whole exchange we cut back to PAM's desk area So at around thirty seven seconds Jenna. There's an Iheart you pillow. Yes like a Red Valentine spare. What's up what's up. This isn't the Valentine's episode. What's going on? I don't know I had those same things. I noticed that yes at thirty seven seconds. There's a really great shot at my desk. What's up with that? I also have a yoga card. Well I gave that to you you did. That's from you. That's for me so I have. That's one of my cards for today. So I had written card. I had bought those little Yoga cards at target. Uh-huh you can get like a pack of ten. Yeah and she had like a little pink outfit on Tuesday down dog and so I had written card on that and you kept it and you had on your desk. You know what that is so sweet. I noticed. I had three posted notes on my desk as well and I kept trying to pause and zoom in because I just assumed that those were probably from Youtube cause us to pass me post it that I would put. The Cart is from me and you kept. It knew how to on your desk to cute. And it wasn't for anything in particular it was just I just had written yellowcard about like I was just. I had become a series regular and we were so excited and I just wrote a little card about just like so excited that could we could have our lunches and all those guys. This is an Angela thing. You should know you still do that to this day. You you love these little cards in so cute and you are very good at hand writing just messages of gratitude mostly like I'm so I have so many from you. I'm so grateful for this friendship and it's the sweetest thing about you. Oh thank God. You're really good at that. I put a note in my daughter's lunch a lot and I made one this morning. I drill Oh palm tree and a beach love the beach and I just have a great day. That's a very sweet thing about you Angelo. Thank you but now looking back. I'm sure like the Yoga Card. Must've been weird but I guess I probably just thought they were cute. No I think because I did yoga. Didn't I do yoga? Did Yoga and you brought me to a yoga class and has one of the most painful experiences of my life which is weight but to be fair to be fair. I had brought you to what I thought was a beginner. Yoga first of all. You're like ants. Go to yoga with me and I said John. I've never been a yoga. I don't really get it. I'm not I don't understand it. I don't know what it means I'd have to go to a beginner. Beginner and you were like I've got it. It's amazing yeah. There's this one on Tuesdays will go to this beginner yoga class. It'll be terrific. We waited for a day off. You took me to that Yoga class. It was not the beginner class was so not beginner. And there's one woman was like militant. I thought Yoga was supposed to be like a peaceful stretch. She was like that she was yelling and Lens. I got into flow class. I hadn't anyone who does yoga and she's like basically speaking different languages. Shiva's and stuff like that. I don't know what that means. I didn't know what that meant. And she got really annoyed with me. Do you remember? I do and I felt really protective of you. Because and I was giggling. Yeah gone really didn't like that but I was. I just kept thinking the whole time. What the heck this is explain. Explain this is beginner but if anyone knows like yoga flow they just shout out the poses and it goes really fast and they don't even explain what they are. I kept raising my hand and I just I was so mad and afterwards I was oh I was so fired up to complain because here I had finally convinced you to go to a yoga class with me. I knew this would never happen again. After this debacle and it turns out I read the schedule wrong and was in fact an intermediate flow class. I mean that's what it was when you realize that. Do you remember what you did no laughing? He started laughing so hard. You're like Oh sorry I was like Oh but then there was opposed way. You have to if you've never ever. I'd never been to yoga. There was opposed who they all fricken stood on their head. They put their feet in the air and they rolled up on their shoulders on their head and neck. I I was going die. Well I don't know if you remember Angela. But the next day you called me new said. I can't put my hair in a ponytail camp on my arms above my add. Those are also. I've never been that way. I was so sore and I think what she says. What she you're much no but I didn't think yoga for years years to go back to yoga. This is by the way I think a fitting tangent another injury. I know it might be why I gave you a card with the Yoga lady on it. Maybe it was so also on my desk. No one's GonNa care about this but me but you can see this really odd plastic decoration behind my phone and this declaration was on my desk for the whole nine years and I don't know what it is. It's like a plastic base with wires coming out of it and now on top of the wires there are like these very colorful half spheres and they clang together. If you flippity flop them I what is that for. I thought that I was supposed to hold photos. I thought this fears you. Put little photos now. There's no slot in the spheres. There's no slot this fear so slot in the spirit for a shares. Now okay well wants to go to thirty seven seconds and look at the shot of my desk and write in and tell me what I was supposed to do with that thing on my desk. Please die thought. Maybe it held messages. I don't know why would anyone want that thing. It's the same as that. Click clack thing that we talked about the Newton's logic what's it called? They're called a Newton's cradle cradle. New Ball critical. Well it's the same as weird plastic thing if you ask me okay. Let me break down the car crash for everybody. Fan Question Daily Burnin said. How did Dwight driving into the poll work? Was he driving or was it someone else? I reached out to Rainn Wilson to get the full story on this. What am I tall? Geeky man love him alive. Say here's what he said he said. If you notice you never actually see the crash. No you just hear it so they just put the car there and he just staggered out of it later when he's driving away. That was a stunt driver. Rain never actually drove the car. Another fan question from Nicholas Powell. What did Rainn Wilson us? Four his throw up on the car rule cream of potato soup bowl and rain told me it was actually his idea to throw up across the back windshield in the script and on the day he was directed to throw up on the pavement outside of the car but he thought it would be of your feet through up across the back windshield. They only did about two takes but he said he really hurt his neck during the fake throwing out because he said he had project yeah he had like propel his neck forward so that the vomit would really splatter and he said it was sore for like two weeks afterwards so he got rain woman. Got An injury filming the. This is the kind of stuff when I always felt like. I was a cast of this show. We didn't travel well like we'd be like Safety Meeting Right Candle. We have fake throw up like and then there's other shows with like insane explosions and car chases but we get an injury from fake vomiting he did. I'm sorry rain. All right so the next thing that happens is that Michael enters on crutches and he has his foot in bubble wrap and fan question Nathan Jasper asked was John. Popping the bubble wrap CASS scripted or was that John's idea it was scripted. It was scripted. I have a question for you. Generally speaking of bubble wrap not too long ago. You injured your foot hiking right. Weren't you hiking? And you hurt your foot. I and then you started wearing this big boot around but then the boot started rubbing your Shin and then one day you showed up and I could hear like cookie. Yes he said. What is that noise? And I look down at your boot and sticking out from your boot is yeah so these boots they have these like metal rods in them. Which are what keep your foot stable right and they were pressing into my Shin and I complained about it on instagram. I just said anyone who's ever worn these like. How did you make these comfortable? Because I am is like my foot feels better but now my Shin and we feel like I'm bruising my bone of my Shin someone jokingly wrote back and said you should wrap it in bubble wrap like Michael and I was like well. I mean all right. I like that idea and it worked. It was so effective. Hot Tip anyone who has to wear a boot. Just wrap your Shin in bubble wrap. Thank you Michael Michael Scott. Thank you the injury Angela. I'm very surprised that you are not calling out. Pam Sas moment What does this card say? No I have a previous PAM. Sass where no. I didn't tell them you cooked your foot. Good I was GONNA say there's some Pam Sassoon this episode. I have a few a few next up. Michael Calls Pam into his office to ask for messages. Dwight is fanning. Michael's foot with a tiny fan and then it buzzes foot and that was not in the script that we came up with that on the day. Well I wrote Jenna. So when that fan hits his toe. I laughed so hard. Because Steve's reaction was so hilarious good and I I did you keep a straight face. I didn't Oh my God. I laughed through that entirely my Lord that made me laugh so hard. Don't give Rainn Wilson a tiny prop. Oh no like. Don't give them a keyboard at Dundee's they gave him that as an option to fan. Michael's foot and then he just ran with it so good. It's like one of my favorite things at four minutes. Twenty two seconds. Michael Says your job is being my friend. Pam. Yeah and I think that's what he really thinks true. And so today I think one of the reasons he so grumpy. That was really funny. I'm Pam when he started about like grumpy is is because no one is being his in his mind. That's your job. Your job isn't to answer phones your job just you my friend friendly to me. I had a fan question from Tanya Column Marino When Pam Calls Michael Fussy was that scripted because it sounds like how I describe my teething babies it was scripted. And it's perfect. It's perfect well so now. We're starting to see clues of Dwight's concussion. Yeah right Clearly hit his head really hard. Yeah and there are going to be little things sprinkled throughout the episode and one of them is he just loses. His train of thought HE LIKES STARTS. Speaking does finish the sentence. Yeah right then he just starts typing over and over and over and over again then he like raises his hand but he doesn't know he's raising his hand. Yeah he calls Pam Pan. Yeah it's like one of my favorite funny also friendly. He's really friendly and helpful helpful and later on. He's funny he gets into like that's what she said joke. He Calls Creed Dad yes he thinks creed is his dad. At one point he gets weepy. This is what happens when Dwight gets a concussion. I have a question from Lucy. Was Rainn Wilson. Actually Typing Dwight over and over rule was he yes I asked rain. He said yes he was really typing Dwight. But that made me think. About how a lot of times we would have those prop computer document things that the props department would have some computer programmer code or come up with so if you did have to type something specific that they were. GonNa show on the screen. You could actually just press anything and then the sentence would come up. I always liked those. Were really fun. Yeah or if like PAM had to. I don't like if you clicked on certain things websites would come up but they were all fake websites and it was like a movie it was just like a slide show of documents and then you would hit escape and it would start over for the next take yet and it wouldn't matter what. Ki- you hit didn't matter didn't matter but he was really typing dwight at five minutes. Forty four seconds guys. There's now a sofa in the conference room. Yes where did this SOFA come from? I have that okay and then also the only time. There's a sofa ever in the conference room that I don't know okay but it is the SOFA from front reception and I read the script and this is a description from the script that I absolutely love so I'm going to read it. It says Michael. Move into the conference room and it says Michael is splayed out on a sofa. The one by Pam's desk which has been moved and cuddled up under a comforter with his leg elevated it says though. He made the conference room his bedroom. It's unclear if he's wearing his pants under the comforter. Mindy wrote so however I love that the like however they set that scene they had to make it so that it was unclear he did. He did walk in with a deve comforter two pillows and then like a few like sort of like. Ella Vera and like yes that he had a ton of people wrote in about this conspiracy theory that Steve had a prop foot that he propped up on the pillow and they sent these pictures that seem to imply that his body is doing something that a normal human body couldn't do know that. Steve Steve's foot yeah but I got so many emails and so many comments about it. Razi that I started. I mean we were there. We know there was no foot on a pillow. No but the pictures were so convincing. And we'll post this on our website so you can see. They were so convincing that I reached out to Steve. Oh my God I bothered Steve Girl. Who Like Steve At your foot? And he's like. What are you talking about guessing like eleven at night as like first of all? Hi Jenna. I hope you're well. Yeah that was my foot eleven. Pm I was like Steve. I feel like I know the answer to this and I sort of explained it and also I'm not drunk. Is this what it's come to know what we talked about on the podcast was like it was not a fake foot? It was my foot. It was his foot. I even remember him having to go special to Harran makeup because they put those divots on the bottom Omar. The grill marks that was that was special effects makeup. Yep A lot of people ask how they did that. There's this putty that they use to make those and they glue it on your foot with special glue and then like glue or something like that is called. Like Spirit Leo. But then they like they'll like us like this airbrush makeup machine and then to make it blend and then they'll stipple. It's pretty light on it. It's pretty amazing stipple. That is what is called a stipple. Sponge Yeah did you not take like Peter Come in my theater trump? No I had by a Ben. Nye Makeup Kit which included a stipple sponge. Well I was doing comedy I was. I was doing Improv on stage while you were playing with a sponge okay all right at five minutes. Fifty seconds the Prism d'oro sport. Yeah Pam's ipod knockoff. Gift from Roy that Dwight says chunkier and more solid than an IPOD? We go you want to go. Roy You get the clustering and then you get her a prison. Duro SPORT WAY TO GO Roy So I did a deep dive on the prison Duro Sport Lady Metoo Lady Lady. What did you find not only what did I find because I know you found it too but I printed it out and I brought it. You brought the fake website for the price. Okay Oh sports of all. The fake website is called d'oro sport dot com. It's still up. You can still find it. These were WHO's made it. I heard writers. No they did yes. They are writers. Took the time tomorrow this year. How I clearly they were just having some fun. We should probably talk to them. They made up jurists dot com. Then they went one step further and they made a review site that reviewed the prison to a sport. And it's called media looper what I printed I did not find. I printed out the review of the Doris Sport. Oh please it's the prism d'oro sports six thousand worst digital audio player. Ever it goes on you guys. This thing is oh my gosh I printed out. It is eleven pages kid is put links on. We're on our website office LADIES DOT COM. Look for all this stuff look. There's the photo of it. It looks ridiculous. But here's one of my favorite things at the end of this horrible review okay. There is a comment board and they meet fake common fake comments which is so funny. You have to read the fake comments. There's some of my favorites and the very very last fake comment. If you go all the way to the end it says it's by Shiel coattail. Okay why do I feel like? That's Mike. Sure is this show. Coach says to anyone who doesn't know d'oro sport is in fact a joke. It was created by the writers of the office. Check the WHO is it went up soon after the episode air. Wow are writers. Were really having a good time with it. I guess so I have a fan question from staff was pam's device a creative then. Mp Three player she calls it something else but it really looks like a creative then so there is. I mean Phil. She had to hand me something right. It really worked really scroll right. And it really plugged into my computer so I froze the image at five minutes. Forty-seven seconds I compared it to an image of a creative then. I think stuff might be right. Nice catch stuff. I'm giving you applause. Yeah so I guess if you WANNA own one they have them on Ebay. Also fan comment from Jamie. Garrett's just said comment. This is not a question. I can verify that there was actually a Russian music website with ten cent downloads. I used it for years until sanctions against Russia. Shut it down. So Dwight is giving them some good advice. I totally believe that at six minutes. Forty eight seconds. Some Major Pam Sale Ham South Pam says. Michael's like you come in here and she goes. Tell me before I come there now. Just that feels like such justified sas. It's justified SAS but it's also how I talk to my children when they're like mom. I'm like what tell me if I come all the way upstairs. I WanNa know what this is about. But then he asked her to rub butter on his foot gross country CROCK and she says no and hangs up on him. I had a question about that. Is Country Crock in the script? Because it sounded like an Improv. No Country Kracht was not in the script. What happens after PAM HANGS UP WITH HIM? Is that Meredith? Was supposed to come over and offer to do it and Michael says something like a black no and she says I'm telling you Michael I've really soft hands so there was a little extra little beat now. What happened after he didn't say country car? Well when when I watched it and Steve is Michael said country croppies sort of get to know each other and you can sort of tell when something like that is all Steve. That sounds like an Improv. To me so at seven minutes thirty one seconds in the scene at reception when Dwight is showing Pam that she can throw her music thing and it won't break. Did you notice that the end of the scene? What rain as Dwight does? He taps the desk the way Jim always. Yes as he walked off. Yeah that was a little bit. That rain and I came up with on the day. That is so great. That's so subtle I love I love it. Well I have at seven minutes thirty eight seconds as Jim Jealous. I can't believe it. Jim is a little bit jealous of twice. Because Dwight is having his paige moments. Yeah Pam and Dwight or friends now and at seven minutes forty three seconds. I have my very famous line that gets quoted to me a lot. Oh my God. Dwight is kind of my friend. How the scene where Michael is in the conference room? And he's on the phone with his mom. It's one of my favorite scenes. It is one of my favorite scenes. It is so layered was so. He's like no one cares I and then he's sort of like clearly lied to his mom about Jan Jan and he was like shall have to dry. She'll worry and then then he finds out that Pam and his mom been chatting and pam his fills in his mom on his relationship status and he gets so ticked off. I love this. Whole conversation was so great that was all scripted. It's so good mindy. But look at all the people milling around in the background. That there were so many crosses. Are we ever up from our desks like that? Why what so much activity I and I'm not even at reception. I'm like doing something. What am I doing at Corner? You know what that moment was watched. That's Brian Gordon. I think that's the director. And he wanted a bunch of us like he wanted movement in the back of the scene. Well if I remember correctly there was this idea that he had where because Steve was stuck he wanted it to seem like that was like a foam. Oh like he wasn't out there with us. He wasn't walking around with And like joking with us and that he couldn't be part of what was happening out. There should look at you. Use his lingo foul mouth. Omo the kids lingo a little bit all right guys. I'm going to read to you from the Journal. I wrote about the scene of rain tonight in the break room. So you're going to hear some journal thoughts from Angela Journal thoughts after the break with home security. There are two ways you can go about protecting your home. Do you know what they are. Well there's the traditional way right where you wait weeks for technician come and they sort of do that big installation home or wherever it costs money or there's the other way which is simply safe simply safe has everything you need in a home security system. It's award winning protection. Two time winner of the Senate editor's choice award simply safe blankets your whole home safety and you barely notice it's there but what's truly remarkable is that you can get the system set up all by yourself seriously. Anyone can do it. It takes thirty minutes an hour tops. You'll have an army of highly trained security experts ready to dispatch police to your home at a moment's notice. Twenty four seven. That's why the verge call simply safe the best home security system that's quote unquote home. Security him votes. Check it out today at simplisafe dot com slash office ladies get free shipping and a sixty day risk free trial at S. I. M. P. L. Safe Dot com slash office ladies simplisafe dot com slash office. Ladies were back everyone from our break and it's time for Angeles diary every she's been saying that during the break you guys just something brought to you by. Pbs Angela's diary. So the scene in the break room with Dwight and Angela's some Dwi Angela. Angela some weird love He. He tells her that she's sweeter than candy. And then he pats her but he does slur wrote about it in her diary that my journal Journal so all right. I say a few things about that break room scene between Dwight and Angela. We found a lot of different versions pretty much. They just wanted rain to surprise me. In some way and that I would have like this natural reaction sure and we knew that he was gonna do something and then kind of run off right so I have your rain Spanked me swatted me. Tried to kiss me. What time he actually picked me up bomb. But wow you know so I remember he ran up behind me and kind of grabbed me and I sort of leaned back and he lifted up at the same time. We weren't planning this guy's like a kind of random accent but it was so weird that he just sort of lifted me by my buttocks so that one didn't make it in any way we did a bunch of takes and I said that I laughed so much we were laughing so much that I was really surprised. They found one. They could choose because I didn't know what he was GonNa do. And you know rain. Yeah ain't gonNA throw you curve balls. He actually delights and that of course he loves it loves he loves to throw you off but ultimately we use the one where he swatted be punches or ran away in the script said he squeezes your but some squeezes. I'm sure I'm sure there were squeezes swats. I mean. I did write that like. I had a little bruise on my but the next day I was just too much too much of your but anyway that's what I wrote of their will. The next scene Michael is trying to enter the kitchen. Ryan does not help him because he is busy eating string cheese with toby which loved that interaction. When oh you just go for it you just you. Don't pull it apart. I love that that was actually. Toby says that to Ryan I know you just go for did I say God. I'm so harassed I'm in Paris. Really Sali's will issue a correction. Angela how do you eat string? Cheese do go forward or do you string it. I go for it I strange. This is everything about us. You probably methodically of a system of how you your string cheese. You know I I get so mad if my string is too thick like I like to really get mad at yourself journal. Yeah I like it to be even strings. Okay I open it and just bite it off. This is everything about us. I really like time to string it out guys. How do you eat your string cheese now we WANNA know us? Do you string it or do you bite or do you bite it. Genesis Stringer. I'm a biter. I'm going to do a poll and we'll tell you the results are day so Michael eventually makes it into the bathroom and then you overhear him falling into the toilet demanding that PAM help him demanding that Ryan help him this was all basically scripted except for it was in the script that Michael is supposed to say get Ryan but then Steve improvised. He needs to lift me any needs to clean me up a little bit up around wet towel and I think you can see Paul start to break and you know you totally can't right I. I watched the scene of times because I was Paul's breaking Paul is breaking at nine minutes. Forty six seconds. He starts to laugh any turns away from camera on the leaves and then the camera because our camera guys would do this quite often for us when they would see that. We're starting to break. They'd whip away from us. What so he whipped. The camera guy whipped to the door. But I think the thing that did him in was when you hear Michael Fall. Second Time yes that was also not in the script and I think it was too much for Paul. We'll steve was in their clanging around like making noises and stuff. Very Funny Aright. So next JIM and PAM are out in the bullpen. They're discussing Dwight. And this is Michael Bus. Sin and ask people if they know what it's like to have a disability. He's ticked off. I remember shooting so angry now but no one is taking care of him. Are Eating him special? And a lot of fans mentioned that one of their favorite lines. Stanley's line when Michael says. What does this look like to you and Stanley says mailboxes? A and then and then Steve. Does that thing that I love? Where he's like shot at that Steve. Right there. So you know at the end of that scene. Dwight turns to creed and says dad that was added on the day. That was an imprint. On the day it was probably an alt- they would do that to us. Sometimes they would have alternate endings to scenes in the script. Dwight was supposed to pick up his phone. And say hello even though it didn't ring while creed being his dad is way better perfect. Perfect all right so this moves us into the conference room meeting where Michael has hung a bunch of photos of disabled people on the wall icons icons yes and leading to pictures of Tom. Hanks Tom Hanks in forrest gump and then Tom Hanks and big. Yeah but he thinks it's in Philadelphia and then there's like a debate that it's definitely big. It's definitely big. But he says it still counts because he became a man overnight which is a type of disability eleven minutes fifty six seconds tracking Mendy. Her hair looks fantastic. Her here is fantastic. I have it on a note card but it is half up and half down it is. It's not full down her sweater. She's got a little bit of a v Neck. Yeah this is not. We're not up to her chin with these like Turtleneck Blouses Hayes tops. She does have a Paisley skirt. Speaking of Hairstyles Jonah. I wrote about my hair in my journal for this episode. I just work listened lady if you had to wear a tight bun with a gazillion. Bobby pins poking you for like every day for you would. If you're something change you might write about it and I did. So here we go. This is what I said on a small note. I for once like my hair in this episode. Angela always wears the crazy braids. The buns the ponytails but I guess being in a relationship has made her step it up a little. Ooh I like that backstory. I got to wear my hair down. You did and I was really excited. It had a little bit of Bufa. I actually thought your hair looked really pretty in this episode. I'm now I'm teasing you about writing in your journal about it but I mean he. Yeah well it was journal Worthy thank you. It was the first episode that I didn't have my hair up in any way. No so I wrote about it. Yeah it's very nice so now at twelve minutes twenty seconds we meet Billy merchant. Who is played by Marcus your as we discussed and he is the property manager. Yes and he's here to tell us information right about the parking lot. Tell us not to block the loading dock even if we have our hazards on. She just wants to tell us some stuff about the building right some of the building rules and you said Michael Sees this as an opportunity. Yes because billy is in a wheelchair. Michael has decided that he's pretty sure. Billy is going to lecture us about the proper way to treat disabled people and back up the fact that Michael has been so wrong. Oh Michael's been so wronged right So Marcus said they really stuck to the script. Him and Steve for the scene evidenced Steve through an Improv at him. I think I know what it is. Yes so he said that. Steve said well you know we have a lot in common and then he says I'm GonNa Stop. You right there and leave. That's all scripted. Yup But then Steve improvise. Who ME AND BILLY GOES. No me right. Now he like improvise that right back and that was great. Marcus I was so good. Marcus said that he wasn't ready for that Improv. Like he wasn't sure he said you know when you guest star on a show you know. Did they stick to the script? He had heard that we had a lot of Improv background. And things like that. But he said that Steve Just Kinda through that and then he just reacted and that's like something. He remembers as being really fun. Well when Steve says that line you know what we. Aren't that different when I clamp my foot on the George Foreman Grill. Uc Mindy put her hand up to her mouth. And then you see me full on laugh and turn to rain. Rain smiles at me. Yeah no you're the front row row row lost it. I have both of those. I'm like you completely break. Mendy I expect to. I expect to see him. Indy's hand cover her mouth but you don't even hide it. I just turn and start laughing will. Brian is staring at the floor. Bryant Kevin Having a hard time he is got just like this laser focus onto the carpet which seems also unnatural. And I think he's doing. He's he's also probably biting the inside of his mouth or inflicting pain on himself so he doesn't laugh but I wanted to point out that I think it's really sweet. How the director chose to put rain next to each other in that I would normally sit next to gym but I sat next to because Pam and Dwight or friends yes. They're friends now. Also in the scene we learned that I guess Michael Brushes his teeth for ten seconds. Ten seconds wow okay so next week to a scene with Michael and Ryan and Ryan is delivering him some pudding chocolate pudding. It's revealed that Ryan ground up some aspirin and put it in the pudding and so there's been this runner where Michael really really wants some fresh. Em's and Ryan can't seem to find them anywhere. He asked them if he found them in carbondale which is where he found the pudding at a gas station in Carbondale van question from Grellet does a gas station in carbondale always have fresh. I wanted to find out. I would think that no gas station had gams. Is I feel like Ryan isn't really trying that hard to look for these yams because I think it'd be just went to the grocery store. Carbondale is about twenty five minutes outside of Scranton Ryan Hits a number of the sort of surrounding counties on his search for the ams so I really looked hard and I could not find a gas station with yams in Carbondale and most of them didn't even look like they had quick shops. Like maybe you could get gum. But some of them. I felt like I couldn't even get a cup of coffee. If you live in Carbondale Pennsylvania. Let me know if there's a gas station near you that sells yams. Will you tell us? We've come to know Jenna. I have a question for you. What is it how do I say this? Yeah I don't know. Did you ever think that you would stay up late looking for yams at gas stations in Carbondale? No you Google looking for Yams in Carbondale. This is due for you guys. I allergic to yams and sweet potatoes by the way so even if I had found them I could never do anything for myself with this information. This was all for you all for you next in this episode Dwight collapses he needs to go to the hospital and while we're walking to the elevator. Dwight says it smells like chicken. Soup and PAM says. I know that was improvised. The amount of scripted words that they had for us did not get us to the so they told us just say some stuff and I loved shooting the scene with rain. It was so much like you were having a good time. I really liked it also. I think he improvised that line. Where Jim says what are you doing? And he says making Vietnam sounds like that is. He's falling on the couch. Yes I did want to say something. That was not improvised. That's in the script. Is the water bottle that Jim picks up off of the plant and then his spraying him. That was in the scene. Well I have a question. Yeah at fifteen minutes twenty five seconds. Why why do they have to go and MIRTA SPAN? So many fans wrote in about that. I could go in Jim's car get way. Michael can't drive. I get that. Dwight can't drive but gem. Why didn't you say Meredith? That's fine? I don't WANNA in your growth being and I'll take my car here. Are His choices? Go in Meredith's fan or put Dwight and Michael in his car. Dwight has already thrown up. I mean I don't know. Would you put them in your car? Yes I would rather drive my car an injured person in my car where I know car. Meredith van is a hot mess but because they took meredith's van they had that great funny scene of Dwight trying to drink the rum in the backseat. All my Gosh so John has said in interviews that that was one of the hardest time sees ever laughed on the show was filming those meredith fans scenes. Well I think these three guys whenever they get a car together they lose. It had seen all the out takes of them laughing. Their butts off. Yes like in these cars and also I think that Jon. It wasn't Jim that was John. With that spray bottle. Oh he had too much fun with that. We can't end this episode without me talking about one of my favorite things that Michael Does when he explains something that we all know but he explains it to you. As if he's the person that invented it or he one that knows it shotgun. Oh my gosh so at sixteen minutes. Thirty eight seconds. He goes the rules of shotgun are very simple and very clear whenever he does the stuff. I just live for it. I love it. I love it in this episode. We Learn Dwight's middle name is not danger. It's Kurt but fan questioned from Briana. Was Dwight saying his middle name. Dangerous scripted or improvised. It was scripted. we also learn an episode. You guys that creed as a teenager was in an iron lung. He says he was in an iron lung nothing. He had an iron like that he was what like he's in an iron lung. That's called an iron lung. Yes I don't know how it works. Did Not deep dive on iron lungs. I loved it though I loved. How old are you know that was Michael when Michael was like? How old are you but anyway we learned that creed was in an iron lung as a teenager. Which is hilarious. I love in this episode. That Michael takes off his microphone. Yes is this is the first time we go radio silent writing so that we point out that we're actually Mike. We go to break that fourth wall in that way. Yeah I liked that and then I love this scene and this scene was not in the script in our shooting draft of the script. They must have added this later. I mean probably while we were shooting this scene where Jim Calls Pam Angela. Pops her head over to over here. If there's any news about Dwight and Pam clocks it and then Pam goes over to Oscar and tells Oskar Hey Oscar. I thought you'd like to know Dwight's GonNa be okay and zooms in on your face and you're so relieved and you can tell your you couldn't tell your in love. I'm in love. I was worried about my man. One of the things I did and we all did this in different ways as characters if something interesting was happening at reception even if it wasn't in my script that my character clocked it I would just pop look over the partition and the first time one of the camera guys caught me doing it. The writers loved this and kind of became a thing. So of course pam is on the phone. Yeah out white. I'M GONNA put my head over but this one was scripted that my head's there that I'm listening in and I remember one of the things they told me is that they're gonNA catch my head at the top. It's not a ton of time. Pam's going to look back over then. I need to like disappear right like I would. And so we were playing around with this so in one. Take when you look back over. I just dropped to my knees. Do you notice how quickly you really do. And that's the one I think they'd kept in because I dropped like a rock and they thought that was really funny. The very end of this. It's the final shot of Dwight in the scan machine and Michael tries to put his foot in. That was not in the script. That was an improvisation by Mr Steve Corral. Of course of course so we learned in this episode that Dwight with a concussion is actually really a likable guy. Yeah but he also steps out of his lane a little with Behan he becomes a friend. Jim didn't like that and then he gets the jokes instead of my coal with the doctor didn't like that and you know. I don't know I. I thought he was so adorable in this episode. Well a lot of people pointed out that there are going to be some future episodes that follow the Pam and Dwight friendship and spoiler alert in the end. Dwight Calls Pam one of his best friends or his best friend. I know and it's really sweet and I absolutely loved these. I love one ever Pam and Dwight have to team up. I think something about Pam. That's true is that for as much as Dwight and or Michael Annoy her. She really loves them Like she does there. Her crazy cousin zany uncle or whatever but she loves them she does Love Them. I have to think that ankle. It does not and she doesn't like he doesn't like you and I have to think that it was probably like a source of conflict for her and Dwight. Gooden Dwight was like well. You Know Pam was Kinda. I'm like Oh Pam you know I'm going to say I think the one person that Pam maybe didn't like was Angela. I know like I think cheap. You know but she'll take the if you have nothing good to say nothing at all about Angela. But I I really don't think I don't think they did which was hilarious if you have the DVD's and watch a really great deleted scene from this episode. My personal favorite is the scene where Jim Michael. They are in the waiting room of the emergency room. The white is in the back there waiting in this lobby. I watched this. They are watching a Telenovela and it just made me laugh. They're just stuck in this hospital. Waiting Room watching a Telenovela and I loved it. Well guys. That's the injury. That's the injury. Angela did this podcast with an injury. That's how method she is. Oh you think you subconsciously. Gave yourself an injury for the injury now now. I think I might melt. I think I can't chew gum when I'm having a Sassy rant. I was visiting popping gum. It's probably Karma I don't know I don't know I think maybe you did it for the show. Well listen thank you. Thank you welcome guys next week. We'll be back with the secret where we very much do propel. The Jim Pam storyline forward. Ken Michael. Keep the secret that Jim told him on the Booze Cruise. Was She grit secret? My side of my secret Angeles Tongue. We'll be better next week. A good thing by thank you for listening to office. Ladies Office ladies is produced by Ear Wolf Jenna Fischer Angela Kinsey. Our producer is cody. Fisher are sound engineers Sam Pekar and our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton. 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CES Recap: Tik Tok, Robot Pants, and an Avatar Car - Dude Soup Podcast #260

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CES Recap: Tik Tok, Robot Pants, and an Avatar Car - Dude Soup Podcast #260

"We're back it's a new US. It's a new. It's a whole new year. Twenty twenty welcome to the first weight. Second new episode of Dude Soup Look Yellow. Thank looking at the wrong. You're doing this again at the numbers. I'm high so high dayquil right now guys. You wouldn't believe it. I don't think we have time to do another Omar. No keep that one. That's fine I thought it was perfect. Man is pretty high was I was laying in bed this morning. I'm dead like I feel terrible. I was was on all sorts of cold medicine. I get this terrible thing but then I thought of a lease sitting here alone during the podcast by herself with love. That are you kidding me or my came in in welcome everyone to an all new episode dude soup were back. I'm joined by at least James and John Smith I all done how are you yes I do have some. I have some questions for you guys about holiday stuff. We hung out briefly. But I want to kind of what you guys did since we all kind of went our separate weighs like at the end of Ocean's eleven before we get there Tell you about our find sponsors. We've got spoke at twenty percent off your first monthly box. When you sign up at box of awesome dot com and enter code? Duda it also stitch fix get started today at dot com slash Zip and get an extra twenty five percent off and you keep everything in your box speaking of your box James. Yeah so I'm GonNa work my way backwards We all went like I said we all did. The Danny Ocean thing went our separate ways. Playing in the background beautiful at the Bellagio So what last weekend. We'll with middle mediaeval times together. Yes thousand great we did. What did everyone do before that I slept a lot okay. I didn't know that scene when Jenny comes home. Forced on and forrest gump. Oh so these are another character named Johnny. I don't think so When Jenny comes home to forest and he's like oh I'm so excited to have you back and he just keeps checking in on her and she just she this sleep? And that's the whole. I think that was me. Yeah that was me. Apparently the last year was me. Basically living through the seventies do you do you think for it allows eighties by that time right wall but she heard her worst times were the seventies enforces. Mind though do you think he's like she partied so hard. She caught up on that sleep but she walked part. Instead of I know bide see didn't think about how she was getting rammed ran but he got in their fiftieth or later were you mean. He had sex with her later. Yeah Oh yeah. He didn't have sex. They did force doesn't know heated. There's these Because 'cause he has a kid what he has get at the end is named forest and if the kid's name is forrest and his name is forrest they must be related. They cut out the scene where he goes. You're named after K. K. K. member. Oh yeah they cut out the scene where child protective services comes comes in and says this man is incapable. Yeah sorry Haley Jaws just he throws a wad of cash into apollo thirteen flies away. You guys aren't conjoined at the HIP. But I assume what did I do. You know you watch a four hour cut. I got some lunches breakfast with friends that I don't get to see always because of our demanding work schedule Federal And the the fact that La you know if you live on one side of the city you're never gonna see someone that lives on the other side says that which is nice On Christmas dismiss with some friends watched Best Friend from Heaven Christoffersen movie where he plays dog. You finally watched it on Amazon prime on you introduce that movie to me. Did you watch two. I have not watched the show so we were concerned that the trailer which is Hilarious Kris Kristofferson voices a dog that gets hit by a car and then goes to heaven and then comes back back back and I can talk doesn't get married. She was about to get married get married they put it off. The dog died would not happen the movie we were like okay. Well it could be one of the situations where it's actually just a boring worrying about. It's not a bad movie but no eight delivered. Three hundred I would. Highly recommend does not free also also. We're watching kept waiting for the speech about God odd and it like they would come close but then never actually go into it but I guess the version we watched is a new edited version O.. Best friend from heaven where the there's alternate title one called God's best friend because the bride who doesn't get married. Her father is a preacher And there's a lot of interactions with that father. I never actually cut. Yeah Yeah it's like a secular Ishbel we we did Back in the day John and I did that whole review the Christian net flex Alex and there's a similar sort of kind of like a tone with Christian movies and porno where there should be normal seen instead of fucking talking. There's a part where they talk about God or something like that. Where oh this feels like? They're about to something like hey how you doing. How are we talking about? Jesus where is this coming from. Yeah they ordering a pizza extra cheese by the way can tell you about Jesus so strange I in other big Hollywood news I was I was out to breakfast somewhere. I saw John Byrne Circle side. His name yeah. The Pun hundred show formerly the obviously didn't cast go up to him. I don't really if someone especially with his kids and his family and I'm going to go up and be like insure me three. No but he seems like I mean his direction that I was very much listening to. It was a very sweet yet to eat my horn with me I was. How was your break John? It was good I he also did a lot of sleeping I watched freaks and geeks undeclared in like four seasons of the office in like. That's earning movies. Wow so yeah not unfed jammies. She'd say is low productive women. Know what name go anywhere. I didn't leave my apartment for two weeks. I grew up in several of a now. Everything you watch animal world but his animal world I just I just found it. I went deep diving on Netflix. Which is where you don't watch the things that they referred to you? You write names of other movies and the search and then you go through that list on on this movie called the Animal World. Which is the Chinese film about this guy who is taken in by loan sharks debt collectors and then taken in in an oil tanker in the middle of the ocean and forced compete in paper? Rock scissors like battle royale. How were the animals? This was not a dream. No okay it was real but it's also it's shot like a trying to think like an action movie like a fast and furious is deducted mentoring no no. Oh it's it's shot like a fast fast and furious. It's a nonsense. I mean it could. There's probably that's probably closest we'll get to like alive yu-gi-oh that is so exciting. I doubt anyone else's holiday could top that level of excitement and interest so we might as well just move we can move on or you don't want to mister world traveler. We went to Jeff and I went to Costa Rica. I didn't WanNa talk about how you mean. The Nixon drink alcohol there was there was the I.. Wit either you did not saw them alcohol. Stop looking at my life tagging me and It was a quick trip but You were talking earlier about like oh living in L. A.. I live on the west side and my friend lives in Burbank. And its take me forty five minutes to get there I have a new appreciation for the congested rows of Los Angeles after being Costa Rica. Where John knows because he's been there? I've been there either. No my brother okay. who had a mental breakdown and had traveled Central America? Cool yeah that's cool. I also had a mental breakdown. I uh-huh nothing but winding roads of four cylinders stickshift. Going up and down and just if a bus breaks down you're stuck going going uphill and rented a car because the first car tried to rent for like an insane amount of money because we are also doing this over the holiday break which was a bad idea. Abe's everything just price got out the ASS. You only car available was A car I've never heard before From a country I've never heard the interceptors. It was like a Perot or something like that. Oh No not a Peugeot. Now it was like it was like a Korean four so I saw a couple of others on the KALINA. That's what happened to my when turn Tino mater drive that jeep or whatever. Unsafe stunt in two. Then she crashing. He said let me see your feet because because he's feet okay feet okay. That's a movie idea. Only in the deleted scenes of death roof but yeah so like after dry it takes. I don't know something like four and a half hours ago from one part of Costa Rica to the other which ended up going about twenty miles. You're just a lot of like uphill. Never her just kind of fun. It was very stressful Beautiful beautiful country but man. They are being in trafficking. These goes forward it just moves and also on a bunch a bumpy rockies structure. Yes strange right. It's there at sin. Yeah there's not a a howler monkey coming at your digging Indira Hotel Room in the middle of the night the an Iguana just monkeys. They don't help their silent killer. Another monkey yes okay good. That's that's the the key that's means you really had a true while life experience. Yeah and then I got food poisoning towards the probably Salmonella. I duNNo. It's all good now someone really in it's really There was I'll tell you a quick story We we went out to this place. Chaos is like this beautiful like bang cause earlier and we went on a Catamaran is one of those things like. Oh we'll take you out. You can go snorkeling you have lunch. I'll stop part way through. My son was just dying. I was like Oh my God but head bathrooms on board so I was like totally thank Josie around viable. We'll just as I go in the water. Not The boat has bathrooms. I'll use the best. Is the water clear like like you're going to La like a lot of most seasons in La anywhere. You want the log floating in the water but if it just be beautiful blue route did it was it was it was the smoke from fern. Gully inside of me like ready to come out so I go go to the bathroom At some point the boats been doctoral about like the battery died or something. So they're like they're trying to get another battery from another boat so we're just kind of sitting out on the water so I go to the bathroom. I oh boy. It's killing me Eh. But I'll go Fleischer doesn't work okay. But it's like one of those like industrial toilets which is a whole. Yeah you'RE GONNA go to open spot uh-huh it's fine. No like no one will care but I still like close the door. And kinda like close the hinge like okay. Maybe let people know not to go in there and then later up there up on top and I heard some guys on there and they're like they could smell the toilet next door and the balance ruined. Don't go inside scream and invasive the ground I just looked at her I was not i. I was expecting the toys. Fill the flash probably flesh before you went and rode in industrial destroyed it. You're the captain is nauseated. Returned in anyone drive this boat back because of my terrible smelling rival boat sale sales on of it though the water is yes exactly. It's like it's like when you shoot on videotape. You Call it filming a movie right you you should on videotape told me you told me you're going to use all get rid of that super eight film. I handed you from back. It's vintage now. I say tape a movie. I say you guys I WanNa go tape a movie. Here's what you say. No we're making. Here's a brief aside When I moved to La obviously he's just trying to get a job anywhere and just wanted to be anywhere within? The industry did matter. So one of the places I applied was at this place called pro eight millimeter in Burbank and Basically just a eight millimeter shop. They sell film and then they also processed film. This is one thousand nine hundred two thousand six right nine exactly yesterday but not too long ago. It's Kinda like how vinyl still around there are still there are enthusiasts that missile us this stuff and and I went so I went and it was literally just for a position just like checking orders and processing orders and then they were like. Oh we'll maybe we'll train you and then you can learn how to do film processing and sometimes we have editing and stuff. It's like well it's close enough. And then they called and they're like well we can only offer you this much like that's fine and I had something else then. I think we mutually agreed not to do it. They probably didn't want me anyway Since then I've had countless jobs countless different places places. I've worked at have completely gone under that. Don't exist anymore Lots tons of layoffs been through tons of Laos we we were in Burbank not too long ago and drove down the street pro eight millimeter heel there expanded into the building next to it really I would probably have have I would have had better job security if I had accepted that job and I'd be doing great I'm busy you will. They might be the only when I think they're probably one of them when they bought the other one and that's why they expanded when I was at an invisible children now as we always took eight millimeter camera in would shoot be role with it and then send it up somewhere in La. Yeah don't unaware maybe it was like and they'd sit back like a DVD. I so I took a film class in college. Humble Brag well community. I need to college but double humble. I learned about the telephoning when they're like. Oh this is where we take film we put a digital so you can edit it That was my film. Teacher projecting the film on wall shooting it with a k. l.. Do that's what we did cheese to cost a shit ton of money to scanning digital and I think he original plan was to do that and then the guy who's going to do it for him fell through so he said we have another idea and one of the kids who work there had a ten. ADP He like very early Gen. Sony cameras like Eh. That's good let's shoot everyone stuff on the wall. That's that's what we did too we. We did sixteen millimeter later films and school. There's not much different thing not much difference from a college film school. An how you get a Russian copy of the avengers then game notes this when I was in middle school. I I had a computer. And I had a camcorder that had fire wire but my computer wasn't strong enough to be able to import the video. So what I would do is I would shoot on the high eight camera and then connected to the VCR and press record and then stop and that was basically I was live any onto the vhs tape never worn out. I mean I'm sure some wheel had a VHS or camcorder. In some way like one of us I'm sure at any given time went. Wait if I if I stopped filming at this part and start filming here shall Kung Fu movie alcohol Hokuetsu that way. Yeah I was like all right. I'M GONNA hit. Stop as soon as you make contact with his fist head. And then we'll go to. I'M GONNA cut to a wide and then we'll start when you pull it back inevitably. There's always a shot or they're looking at ready my friend and I shoot her She had a camcorder and we made a stupid like video and her like around her house. It was like escaped from her house. Where there's part where I I do? Whatever and then I go cut I did the one I remember was And this is a specific reference that you'll get it was called to gain Ninjas a dog and a pizza place. Okay I got it the show Ryan Reynolds. Oh yeah as I was a three inch came back. Yeah wow mega. The technology is so obsolete it seen it seems like all these technologies that we were exposed to then that we grew up with just worthless now destroying the tragedy have appropriate millimeter things. Thanks Matt James. Yeah 'cause see is actually going on right now. This is one of my favorite things here. I just realized this just realized why they do it in January. I remember because we'd always be on a break and then they see happening is almost immediately like news all this stuff. It's because it's a new year they want you make you feel like it's the future and we're also arrests. The thought is because everyone comes back from holidays. And they're depressed. And that's what that's what the Porno Convention is next to live for into buying all that old stuff for holiday gifts and then they put puyol the new stuff all the things you bought. I don't know about you guys. I make my Christmas list in January. So now you're the putting a foldable phone on your Christmas list now dear John. This is what I want your my dear John. I have you guys. Seen the razor phone like the foldable. It actually looks good. I think I think it actually looks. I mean here's the thing I've never seen a phone. That looks like Shit they all are. We're just digs like that. But anybody gets smaller. I missed my little chocolate white chocolate. Chocolate uh-huh chocolate. You're talking about because I think just had that phone as she left it in a movie theater and I remember I remember that was how collect by chocolate awkward there. There was that sort of where we are to acknowledge. Where like you're saying James? Everything's just a rectangle. How can you make the rectangle look bad but with the foldable phones? How cool can you make the full until there's some crazy new change? We're just iterating on the same forms actor now like the the razor flip phone is sort of a mix of Um the two I I find interest. I do appreciate that. You can have something bigger because like some like some times I think. Oh maybe I should get a bigger phone own but then I like the phone that I have now barely fits in my pocket but if it was the phone the size that I have now that when I needed more I could fold out into more the following. Is it still this thick. Yeah I'll just put it in my wallet. That's I still wish. They still wish that we could get Seinfeld scripts like what would the seinfeld script be where Jerry gets a new phone and Elaine looks at us now. You can't like you know and there's a shot of it where it's it doesn't fitness Pam. Yeah Yeah it's funny. Mindy Caling tweeted about that recently. where she's like I wrote? I sometimes wish the office was still going because I would have loved to do. Michael Scott's take on this net All sitcoms are the same just right a new sitcom with Seinfeld and mine. Bob's Burgers is just the simpsons but in the essence of the simpsons. When it was warm board I would before we jump in no the? CBS News I don't know if you want to put the link up there Omar but the PS five Dev kit controller leaked. Oh this is from Patrick His name's all scratched scratched out. So I'm not sure it is because we rabble Patrick well. Jeez areas about he claims to be a cleaner at a university says occasionally. Yeah he's a hero is what is wait like a so. That's definitely a cleaner definitely the PS five deficit which will point out so the controllers looking a little thicker acre. Little mad cats and I. It's it's the personal complaint. Everyone loves that controller. So I know this is something with me but I can't it it coming in horizontally xbox controllers feels like my thumbs are in a straight line. When I'm trying to use the sticks playstation controllers? It feels like my thumbs go horizontal so like when I was playing spiderman and amid it's like swinging through the city swing through the city at a certain point. I'd always have to do this thing. Like and then readjust my thumb. Tom Scotto was sliding off the top of the dog. Stick I do that sometimes. It's just like I have to do this thing. I never have to do it on. I have an easier time holding the playstation controller than I do he's components for it so maybe it is more for mutants. I liked the symmetry I I still think. The switch pro controller might be my favorite one so I like it a lot and the new delete xbox the new they send us those newly won like the weight of the elite. It feels like a car. It's so heavy. Heavy Tried Stadium Controller. It's like that he'll so cheap you pull. The control. Has the power of all games. Incited added Adam man the logo. Oh Yeah and then This so we didn't really get a chance to talk about it but when we are at the game awards they announced both bills. Will they got to see what the next at his box is gonNA look already said. That's just that was just a render for of course there's always a rental yeah. Yeah but it's still shows whether minds at is vertical which I don't think any of us saw or we're thinking or any furniture designers nope I don't know because like I might look nice next all your stuff but then I won't one. That's flat that slides behind the television. I Royal Digital Antenna. Yeah or just like it. That doesn't exist in a space. I want one. That's green. Looks like grass so I can just hide it in the grass and run a cable and then I don't even need to think you you joke but Google just released their new WI FI routers. Whatever they redesigned he designed them? Oh to look like lamps and stuff because the the consensus was there so ugly but their WIFI. You need to see them. Well then make them beautiful ally. Our uh-huh router is like behind like we have on a shelf and then there's a picture framed picture in front so you don't see it And then big surprise the PS five five logo was revealed during C. S.. So we still don't know what the council actual finally looks like probably find out a D. three But yes someone already made a little video where they ebina photoshop hit delete delete. Four and five faint broke. Don't fix it Are GonNA change the font ever no probably not I thought maybe you could cause the s already. It looks like a five. Just do two of them like four one where it they just made it safe piss. It's only only slightly revealing though and I do think the naming convention of the xbox is Shitty but it still seems like they're doubling down as like xbox is just going to be this brand identity unity and is going to be whatever place Asian five does seem like their intention is to just build another box and then that'll be the next box that you have for a couple Oh years whereas xbox seems like they're like we're only going to be boxes for as long as we need to I am eventually everyone else is just going to be on a service that provides them with games. I'd reckon the. PS Five will be the last of the sequential naming convention because ps six just feels it feels messy feels like feels like okay. You're five generations of the playstation. Now move on to something new. That's a good number. I think I don't see A. PS Six happening game station. Or what what do you live the experience I station sixty four Blah now remember the commercials in the nineties for the PS nine nine or whatever he sniffs it he does like it has a rail and then he's just like take me away. I thought it was like a weird orb. Yeah and are they gonNA find that Omar but there's a There's a commercial like he he inhales cons. You're talking about where there's organs like Walker apartment because Sony was Wayne because around the PS came under arledge. Try there's some fun stuff and it got crazy and get even weirder where they got that like alien girl the do the weird commercials and they had the weird. PS P. ad where it was like a a black woman holding a white woman or vice versa. Like which one are you because they were trying to sell a white vida cheese. It was like an ad was up in Germany. Like that's racist. School are racially insensitive. Inhale it it is like the PS off Sony almost mocking itself because they were calling it the PS soon that I would call all the ps like what if in the future is called what we're getting pretty close it brain inside his brain They killed himself off that Ryan Reynolds movie which one new one Free Freeman Guy. The the man who is the other thing about the Michael Bay one. I haven't seen it heard. Six hundred. Undergrad okay knock it We're talking about more about some see. Yes but first. Let's hear a quick word from our sponsor bespoke this winter. Start a new routine to upgrade your everyday life with a monthly. A box of awesome from spoke post was what posts sends guys only the best of every month. So whether you're looking to celebrate and occasion with champagne saver or Tosa perfectly age which cocktail box of awesome has you covered from style and grooming goods to bar wear cooking cooking tools and outdoor gear. Box of awesome has carefully built collections. 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That's D. U. D. E. AS bottom awesome dot com code dude for twenty percent off your first blouse. Thank you bespoke doc. Aright moving on back to see Sony. I think we're GONNA hear a lot more from them At three obviously they did finally come out the finally at the end they came out with a Electric car concept. Oh early yeah. Yeah so Sony's getting into the game if you're not on your next car is going to be a folly. L. E. Entry Vehicle All I don't care of some kind. What is the steering wheel of Sony? Carla it's a normal gets got the ones that are have the racing enhance. I thought it was just going to be a giant playstation control. Awhile tipped in your thumb slips off you crash. It's it's nothing really exciting. But actually Omar if you WANNA bring up towards towards the end of that that doc I sent you if you go down to the Mercedes future car if James of I I don't understand none of these. Look like the Plymouth prowler where we wrong. DOC assume that there was a movie that came out in two thousand and nine. It was the biggest movie of the year. Plus one of the biggest moves all time minority report close Avatar. Would you elder anticipate. That hit. Movie would Inspire a bar. Oh that's fair dynamics. It is the Mercedes Avatar. You're okay as they are going to have a car. I mean I would love to drive. I mean no brainer came out and it has those wheels I can spend in any me. Directions okay mic move perpendicular. I mean it sounds goofy but could you imagine parallel parking by going sideways. I mean if it doesn't have this professor gadget tails. I'M NOT INTERESTED I. It must have been so fun making that it's like you can do whatever you want to buy night. They gave him a bag of cash. and Said you could do the throw this away or build a car. You're going to be the same thing no matter like this one inspires dream right. You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to if you took that out. And you hit a speed bump you'd the go-to that's the beauty of all these concept cars right next to the roof. Yeah I mean none of the cyber off where it's like none of this was gonna they're still have to go through regulation processes of this morning. We're just trying to give you an idea of the cyber truck on the road and really around around I'll eat my hat When steering wheel There's a part in this thing worthy the steering column is this like Nipple in the middle of a car love it. And it's supposed to breathe with your heart world when we flew on those yes and they were breathing between our. There's the Avatar ride. Yeah Green and they're gonNA say is a nipple that you sit on syncs with your body. You're but again I always love Alexa. Alexa wins South. Park is always right about stuff. Like oh it's the wonder wheel you put the thing in your butt and then your mouth the only like getting closer and then I love this. There is just a giant monitor in the middle of the tea. I just thought it was funny when I look at things like this thing looks like made by psychopath. Inspired by avatars. Weird Weird Weird thing to say in twenty twenty it runs the witcher three also on the council when I watched the city. I believe this is from the verge and we've been doing some excellent reporting. I've been watching all all their stuff and they're saying like like avatars pretty popular pop culture. I think the entertainment industry has agreed. That Avatar is popular. No they told us it's going to be popular and it was popular and it has to be popular I but I'm just saying it's going to be one of those things where there's enough financial incentive for Avatar to be a big thing I bet it will be regardless of what we care also when we went to Disneyworld McCain back and I was constantly getting served with Google stories because they knew I was there about theme parks. Avatar land is the most popular part of any theme park in the world. Apparently there's a population density and the number of foot traffic that goes. They're everyone's going to Avatar land. Everyone's writing the flight of the passage of Flight Navy. Ride more than any other ride. Do you guys think the movies are GonNa be awesome. I feel like if they don't make a billion dollars each they're going to be seen as failures and they which I think is in production concurrently. Really Okay we're GONNA get him whether we like them or not. I like having a short hadn't reached the like oversaturated like creative give market that we're in now where there's just so much stuff to look at so many spectacles so many things. That wasn't the case in two thousand nine Peter Jackson it must look at the production of the APP. Movies and get hives is honest. He gets dragged into these year long production years. Long my theory sorry. This is an easy theory. I'm going to be one of those people. were all to say things ago told you because it's easy to do But I think the second movies actually. It'd be really good is going to be but it is going to be pretty well received but it's not gonNa make nearly as much money because most people will have forgotten about Avatar but we got that first one out of the way made a bunch of money did it saying and now he's like we're GonNa make it good we're going to focus. We got jemaine Clement. And there's GonNa be a lot of good actors in it to think T- might know he's not the marketing budget must just fucking below out right. The first one. The first one was under all of Disney plus profits from this year are going towards marketing. You'RE GONNA re you make the video games on the we came on ever GONNA sell their own little breathing by things so you can wear at home I i. I'm maybe I'm in the minority here by most people saw that movie almost immediately forgot about it after they saw it they spent their seventy dollars on the movie ticket because he was in three D.. And it's up it made. Its a billion dollars. We all walked away so I think when this new one is going to come up. They're like Oh that I don't like this like why you'll see that thing again. I already saw at once except that when you're waiting in line to do passenger flight you come around that corner. And there's a giant animatronic now V in attest to everyone's freaking out someone got kicked out of our are ride because they skipped ahead in the line because they wanted to rush to take a picture of it and then they put they cut in the line to do it and the someone came and got the you got no. You're you're it feels like so we Jane we went to Disneyworld. They have if you go to the Animal Kingdom Mary which doesn't have much as Dinah Lan USA now avatar which is all it also so has a bug's life three four now until they got that. Shit what I mean it also has a really cool tree with a live really cool. The animal would currents Apple Kingdoms Great and it is great. It's greater now that it has avatar but it feels weird. It feels like you're in a movie where there's this property called Avatar Ktar that's really popular exists to the store and Avatar Toys. You know like his Bowman. Yeah like this feels made up like like you could avatar yourself and there's kids sitting in a chair and they're like we're scanning you and now you'll be a tall blue ugly cat want US miss. It feels all very a force and made up but like you said we went on that ride and they you fly through Pandora and you see parts that you've never seen the movies like the ocean. He's he these giant whale like creatures and we walked away as a pretty high avatar till. I don't know it's GonNa be like but looks anything like that in my thighs breeds. I'm going to see it in Three D. I Love Three Sam Same Worthington in them Sam Worthington not allowed near movie sets anymore. No Yup and the J. Them I don't know well they asked him because his body's none of us came wrote. He looks like our human lie. Come to find a house. I would love to come on house. He's is out. Make a video with us. Sam's care he's living in lunch today. You didn't say anything. He's welcome here. Any of the of the titans movies apiece looking for Adam. What's that link for a new pair of pants? Well I can get outside of them for you. You're looking at at my dog so there were a bunch of press conferences during CBS and One of them was Samsung. Shut off who makes more than phones in and TV's mind you. They also make EXO skeletons. Que they make a gems up hands the robot pencil last year. They introduced the gems. exoskeleton which is the gate enhancing and motivation system. Oh motivation You're doing great. It used to be cool eight glasses part of it. Yeah they're automated reality during the stage Demo. There is like a three avatars. Get going faster was like that was really hard. Yeah I made it harder for you. The only thing that glasses changes when you look down it doesn't make you feel stupid because it makes those those go invisible all right The idea is that the experts Gallatin as opposed to help the sort of like you know the the less abled old able to get around a little bit more a little helpful but it's also not resist. Give because I don't think they could. I don't know if it has enough battery juice to help you either way. We're all going to be death. Stranding now well delivering packages. Baggage isn't a robot pants. I thought they already had these in Japan for like elderly people There's a guy in the season in Silicon Valley who had like the seat. Have a chair anywhere you sit. I saw some guy. Some videos about people who like Amazon is for Amazon factory workers. And it's like an exoskeleton that they wear so that we don't destroy their shoulders constantly raising putting stuff in but what they don't know their machine training that exoskeleton tour there doesn't have to be right excess scalp for a bathroom break. You look back and it's still. Don't worry Dave I'll take a look back at you and then it just stopped. I mean uh-huh trump thing is. We're at a point in a society where all this technology is really cool. macos going to help so many people. No one's going to be able to afford this. You're gonNA eventually algae because this is going to be a medical device. It's you're GONNA get gouged out of your life you're basically GonNa have to sell your soul. Pivoted away from the medical aspect aspect to a workout aspect. Yeah that's now that's what it was sold. As last year last year it was introduced to so this could be an assistive living a device for or in front people or just people that need assistance. Now it's it's lutes fired up. It's an assistive wearable. EXO Skeleton for it essentially serving as an at home. Jim Yeah that make you won't so I think what happened. All Peleton twenty dollars. I think I think what happen within the last year. They were testing like well. It's not helping. It's really hard actually keeps locking up marketing. I would wait. I know what about bug is defeated. He probably what happened is someone designed this some. MIT student with high hopes of changing the world designed. This and said we do this. We can have nurses in an old folks home carry people to their beds and help them use like everything and then someone who has bad knees it can put this on and got got to work and then they looked at the chart of how much each one would cost and then how much this person had how much many this person has and they said no one will ever be able to afford these useful helpful items that could change their lives and they said let's just say it's a luxury items as workout equipment. Most imagine a ninety year old man competing in decathlon. Because he's got that because he's got the XS Eagleton Yours. See the videos of the really old guys. Run the stewing sprints. Now it's pretty good. Yeah luckily do look healthy. Is that funny. I mean it's funny but it's like it's still still old men doing athletic endeavors. But it's like it's old Mandalay. All right he's GONNA run a hundred meters it's sprint. And he's like ninety eight or something just gets their news trots himself across and then he's like I need A. That was all the energy that I had stood up for the next month. Robert De Niro in the Irishman's route thirty year old Robin we'll talk about some more things at CVS but first let's hear from responser stitch. Fix looking good helps you feel good and a quick way to take care of. That is to improve what you wear. Listen I would love to change my face. My hair air is grotesque hump on my back. But I can't do though and get some new tire. I those damned gargoyles hanging out with me. That was a joke. That inland and Lance Niche fix is an online personal. Styling service that delivers your favorite clothing brands. Right to your door to get started. Go to stitch fix dot com slash dude soup just answer answer some questions about your preferred style and your personal shopper. Will ship a box of clothes shoes accessories right to you with stitch fix. Everyone can look their best. 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I admire people that supplement or replace their diet with these replacement foods that You know are as impactful on the environment or save animals personally and it's hard community because I love meat but yeah at C.. C. is impossible introduced their newest product which is a plant based port product. Yeah and I think this impacts no one at this table more than Omar Who's an actual vegetarian? You can finally to pig again happy for you. But I'm excited like this stuff makes me feel like I'm real close to getting Cuban sandwiches back which chessel well the end of this month. Introducing sausage as well right. Yeah yeah so we have like. There's good chicken out there. There's good beef with the impossible in the burglars good burgers. There's not really good beef beef pork. Why are they doing it off of animals that we can eat? They've already started. There's a burger king commercial. That's the only way to. I mean they're eating. The impossible is the only way to win over the jazz put. What if it was like like a Guana again? I should like Dragon. Yeah meet unit doesn't exist are like Mars worm which bought what they claimed was Unicorn Corn Poop at from a store. It was just Martin whose remarks whatever sucks. And when you ate it you went you. I'd like to Eh. Yeah well what if. What have you been called? poop tastes exactly like rainbow ice cream brochure. `But yeah location maybe it was so like maybe you did have it. They were like they're like no one's GonNa believe that actually Unicorn but it was But I mean I in terms of impossible stuff I feel I possible that will yes. It's is possible but I feel like if fast food restaurants could cut out like if it could save the money in the long run if they could cut out the whole animal all thing they could just grow everything they needed for their restaurant in a factory and not have to worry about any of that stuff do all in house. I think they'd be down. Oh Oh yeah so the restaurant you think has the lab in the back where they're growing this fake or it's across the street will immediately go. Willy type factor. McDonald's if I recall recall end of last year changed and said all their chicken is gonNA come from cage free. I do like all their eggs and all their children. They're all grown in test. You well no I mean maybe but like they basically said we're not gonNA do the thing where it's a it's a thousand chickens on top of each other in one cage like killing each other and had chicken party is like we are going to commit to actually having not entirely humane because sometimes cage. Free doesn't necessarily mean they're living their best lives lives out in the fields but it's better than the walls walls of cages that billions of chickens are crammed into so but I do think they were like when that happened. They were like well. They by twenty percent of the chickens and all of the all of North America. This is going to have an effect so I do think that these as these major ager fast food chains kind of like pick up on things I still. We still haven't necessarily solved and nutrition issue though what's up. We're GONNA. It doesn't matter if it's vegetarian. -Tarian doesn't mean healthy meet carnivore doesn't mean healthy like it's so we still haven't solved the nutrition issue. There's still a nutrition gap the hospital. Impossible aren't specifically healthier for you by nature of them being vegetarian. It means that vegetarians can have something that tastes in his flavorful. That something that's probably also not good for you so right about them. We've talked about this Moore. I think videos but for people watching a new can you explain explain. What about them doesn't make them healthy people just I do think yeah plant based with earthy there marketed as being healthier and they are plant based but you use they use a lot of fats rats and other chemical processes cooking oils and stuff to get the texture and get the flavor and taste and if you get an impossible walker like it's still covered in cheese and bread and a oh and everything catch up should earn so it's also not like also wants it becomes mainstream and they're like oh we need to serve you know a million of these a day in southern California alone they're not they're probably gonna find ways to cut corners on so so yeah it'll taste like pork but it may not be any better for us and he's horrid So I'm waiting for the thing where we can solve the nutritional gap and people can start getting things that are good for them from a Saas in a sustainable way You'RE GONNA get right now. Those in order to be healthy. It's kind of expensive the agency. I completely disagree. I think it takes a little bit of effort. I know I said it's expensive. It's been time. I think eating healthier costs about as much as going to McDonald's you time that's a cost you gotta end. I have to get out of bed input on clothes and go to a car. I know you my own food. How Dare You I? I really am excited to see I. I forget where the video was. But they looked into basically all the different places that lab grown meat was from because that's also like I think at least for Omar Omar. Would you eat lab grown meat if there was no if they just grew a chicken chicken breast. There's no animal coming to arm and tell my when they use like the clone sort of growing parts of creatures without the creature ever reliving or brain or heart or anything. How you feel about that Omar? I think I think it'd be okay with it. Actually I think so. I asked someone recently. This question Dan and they were like they were like. I asked Vegetarians and they dislike break like they don't know how to answer. You had conviction Omar. y'All you were like. Yeah we meet meet. Also I hate to do this Omar but it was a real chicken really for me. It comes down to like a lot of animal rights and you know like taking care of the planet and stuff but like a lot of it is the sustainability of growing food in that way like how expensive it is on the planet to create burgers and stuff like that like as long as the lab. Grown stuff is better for the environment. I think I'd be doubtful. Takes took the energy. There I saw was that it'd be crazy out of out of scale for creating. Yeah they actually Split or I guess Like was it combined The genomes with a banana tree so it was a banana tree but it grew to Q. Yeah I was. You had me for. The bad tree came to life. Here's sang songs. Well I mean in in the videos videos. They were growing little tiny pieces of meat in individual Petri dishes. And it's like that's not sustainable. I feel like the only way it would be is if they could grow like a banana. Bunch lunch that's all just chicken breasts like larger quantities not not to be Todd Phillips Joker about this but I always mentioned at any time. This discussion comes comes up because I think it's agenda. I don't have an answer. I don't expect anyone to have an answer but I think it's a general point of discussion is that there is kind of a reality. That Zuma's in is we stop eating meat chickens cows. God there's going to be like two of them in a in a zoo in in Singapore's recently aids and I'm just saying we stopped eating animals and we stopped eating livestock. Like the. There's not going to be a find. It'll be the same way. We preserve other species in ways. which again is probably better for those remaining species than being crammed rammed into a factory and then getting a bolt in the brain and like but It is one of those things where it's like. Okay well you. You're going to reduce the population considerably because we just have no use for. There's something cool and futuristic like so when when the year two thousand came along I think all of our brains went flying cars jet packs smart tat like no it was more in the past than ever And then it wasn't until like you know smartphones and the advent of broadband. Everyone getting being starting to feel bit more feature six six hundred twenty. My hope is once it'd be really cool when you go by and you see this giant white building and you're like the hell is that other grow meet their the far. That's kind kind of futuristic. Em Yeah I'm GONNA eat my clones. That would be ethical if you clone clone yourself and then killed yourself eight yourself the only ethical the evidence. How much energy does it take up by? Is it going to be more for me to drive. Drive down the road and get a mic mic to eat mike. Loan Murder Yourself. Also you're getting. Am I going to be wasteful money and be like the native. Americans are eat every part of my clone bone broth. Okay I don't want eight the tumors. There's so many also when you kilian clone you have to do it with a bag when you put a bag over their head holding me back then here you see you see your own face gone. Yeah it has to be the exact scene from the Dragon Tattoo. Replay enya Swedish basement. I I thought it was you had to keep I contacted that you got that part of your soul back. Oh Yeah you have to look at what the soul comes back I have been told that Bison Bison is better for you because it is a fearless animal and so when you kill a cow when it dies fear it releases like toxins they do spotty but because bisons will bring you over and when they die they die hang tags from fear. You WANNA eat. String I'm not a nutritionist S.. But I'M GONNA say that's not why bisons better say probably because there are more active animal because they aren't so mass produced and because what they eat eat to survive is not. Did they talk about process brain. That was a big tedtalk bad about We're almost there all the Besieged says talk about magic pants and who your cars and bulwark sandwiches. Yeah there's a ball follows you. That's not gonNA come out ever I feel like every six months. There's a new kickstarter like this robot will do it. Everyone's like that's a lie there. One day when they will get robots. I saw the The guys luggage luggage following him through an airport so to what we're watching it was probably collection. It was on twitter price gift on radio on Reddit or twitter. It was something I mean it was it was found for you know it was just someone with their iphone filming. This do like it wasn't. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that was a kickstarter starter. Like all these lies but are there was those segues that do that is probably put them on that you those little segway robots continues to carry on TV. That was announced last year. That's supposed to come out this year. That rolls in on itself and sixty thousand dollars projected that and the modular. TV Eight K is a thing thing about this video is that I want to see what's playing on the TV it's it's just a rear projection of what's behind Adam. You just asked what what bill like how lazy you have to not have your own luggage but it used to be. You'd have a handle and then you'd walk through place carrying her luggage and they said no no no wheels. Let's wheels on it. And then someone said well we have two wheels and a handle and they said no no no no. Let's put four wheels so you can just floated around the airport one finger ah the TV rolls up into that thing but then when you don't have the TV out it's just it's a beautiful. I mean sure it covered in bills. And if you've got a great idea of TV's going to come out. And I won't realistic person's home where these roll their shit on it. You put it with the wall like that behind it. But then there's a naked portrait of you guys want to watch TV. It's like all right. I'll turn it off. And then it slides down God reveals her naked body. I did watch a little bit of el-jisr press conference from this year. This this foldable TV things from last yes But they were talking about. They did a pitcher they said here's here's HD are and is like boo and they're like here's LG ultra. I sink I q veterans like brighter. Who Nicer and so now we're pooh-poohing HDR I E R which point so on all these things? They're like the colors in like. The blacks are truly black breath. But you're watching it through your shitty leg laptop on you're going I trust with my until someone can crawl it on my TV. Like the ring. I will not be able to see the quality. That's mean because Miami the human I can only see so. Well they they sell you on these features hard cut to to your grandmother or mother somebody getting the TV watching channel four SD with motions moving on up carrying their luggage. It's a four by three image stretched out Addison. Four K.. Looks good I like this On that note though Elise of talking about things that can actually pop out of your TV Believe it was acer. Acer doesn't really matter invidia. Someone announced the Eighth Monitor. That's three hundred sixty hertz. So we're now at the three hundred sixty frames per second human human. I cannot detect it in any way shape or form. It's and we will believe that it is running that fast and apparently it improves your flick. Shots by four percent. Wow costs shots it will a price. How much money you got get? It's an engine the cost that much. Okay yeah sounds about right. The other thing I thought was interesting. This seems to be a bit of a trend Everyone's trying to make your device with their PC. Our phone into a switch already did it is okay slightly early. adopter founder. Yeah he is actually a smaller xbox series x if you think about it true yeah so there's this bad boy. This is a concept from alienware. ACID asu phony. That person has not phone. This is a a basically a laptop crammed into a hand held alienware has created this thing that is essentially a switch is knock off But it's their sort of them trying to get into the PC the poor poor APP or get steam on on this and it is a. It's running hand. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Well I'm interested will but how powerful is it. They want power left left powerful. It is on my razor all open. I'll open google. Docs in the final go. What's going to happen when I play video once again Check at the verges. This coverage The they do apart where they just play the fan noise. It's so loud. Yeah sort of the the the the idea of like arm architecture verses x eighty six and these other things that's like you're trying to pool less from the trying to be less power hungry. I imagine magin this is like when the eva gets clubbed in the timer starts running down that once this things on doctors just like kill. Kill me kill me. Nice reference nerd. Whatever ever see us get off my Dick I have a I have you guys? I've never talked to guys. I knew everybody makes fun of Stadia and currently as it's joke polk but we should point where the Internet is basically ubiquitous. And I have a feeling that we will reach a point where it is the service but a utility that is provided like Piper net like Piper. Nash Yeah where it's available everywhere not just in cities Ace To the point where stadia will make sense and also just anything to are always would actually need is displays. Yes we won't need this agree you do you just because I think the right now. There's the discourse happening that that Internet access is not a universal human rights. That's because these companies WanNA maintain control. I'm so John I'm GonNa have to respectfully disagree. You Challenge me where you're saying it's not a human right why well I'm saying that the the B that can yeah well. Yeah that's the thing is is it gonNA. which way is it going to politically? I think if you're curious about way not you should fight review curious about whether or not you should fight for that future where the Internet is a utility Stadium I would say I would say that yes. The Internet should be a universal human right and tampons young together. Ever he's Internet. Why would I wanNA give away? If right that only fifty one percent of the human population only have the country knows even how would it does. Yeah well maybe even less what are temp warns anyway. I tried to get like a like I feel like we all are generally on the same page like we all. It's been sings usually an echo chamber and I tried to get like John will let me ask you this about pam talking about assure tampons Tampons as a basic human right but lots of women prefer wing Pearl be pink flow tampons. Dan Pond whatever's sheepskin grand. Special brands of tampons spoils. Yeah what if you had government so government. Tampons are going to be getting getting maybe government Tampon but then you can also choose your hair sir. I'm back at work after two weeks off. And was I supposed to an intending to wash my hair before I came to work this week. Yes did I know who's going There's a government issued level of Tampon. Right everyone gets But then of course you can if you want to buy the more luxurious tampons tampons to figure out health insurance. Yes we did. You don't have to ever worry about going without tampons. But if you WANNA pay a little more into the system for yourself yourself Kami Kami better. Tampons your can refer tampons. We all care about having one computer in your house that controls all the displays blaze. Am I wrong the SEGUE. I'm not side right I I know John's brain is a because he recommended a book to. I believe Omar myself the next this trilogy which is now only about that. I'm giving you recommend it to me. I'm getting all the never come to the gym with me. He's right you don't go to the gym. I haven't for months but hey anytime you want to go come on you go to someone who says you always always look over in. You're grabbing your biking go. Oh no I'm not going the gym. I'm having an affair I've never. I've never said the words. Oh no I'm not going to the gym to recommend the fifth season and now if you don't read it what he's about the future doesn't it's is fantasy about come. Come on you'll have to read it to find out of the seventeen hundred twelve hundred pages just a world where they're different casts of people that call element lint the season Anna Maria. Say about John. I'm currently reading two books right now. The second in the next trilogy crux and and my sister got me the illustrated man by Ray Bradbury which I am now realizing my mom read to me as a kid is on my I readily stories before and Oh yeah. I didn't understand the African Veldt when I first read it there. It is felt John's being accepted by these ideas. No because the ideas are insane but I know where his brains I I get it also. This is something that we didn't experience from the Audio Book. I I had the the kindle version but then I ended up finishing it during a road trip off but at the end of the book between Nexus which is basically. It's like about fifteen years in the future. There's this Os that runs in your mind with Nano bots forever. At the end of the physical book there is an appendix that lists all of the real technologies that everything everything in the book is based off of the guy who wrote it is a venture capitalist in The Bay area in Silicon Valley and so he's funding all all of these technologies that he then was like all this stuff that exists now and that is being developed. Let's just fast forward fifteen years base of the stuff. If that is tangibly real is so. It's not it's it's less Scifi Scifi one hundred percent but it's a very realistic projection of where where the future could lead into propaganda. Basically when you pitch it to me it sounded like the worst idea in the world said is designed to US send. This guy got tired of explaining the future to people at parties so he wrote a book about it. All right okay so I love that idea where they go the party of what do you think the future have you read my book. And they know carries them sewed inside his head on into the lapel. The idea is interesting. It is action as written by sixteen year. Old Adam. Yeah or in Den. Kate was so cool. He's the coolest Guy Guy. He's his friends friends at DJ. To also hacker goes and also I can't women so There's that fan. Yeah it's always the woman is either. They're a trophy or a sex object as always if it's a bad sign when there's a description of the women's breasts and the book and yeah let me picture awesome. Yeah we'll also these are. These are out in the book. TAMPONS are free. I don't remember that part. Must be science fiction. So that's our book of the month club illustrated man great book. Ray Bradbury still not dead yet unless into the future by author name for God. Ah I'm reading shotgun which is about a sixteen hundred Japan. Nothing has happened in the book and Invi written by a white guy names clad well well that's like memoirs of a Geisha which has been described by scholars. This is like one of the most genuine and realistic accounts of Geisha Culture in history in Japan written by White Man White American man. Hey do your research doesn't matter what ethnicity you are. You can have any culture. Take a shocker. On Shock Street written by White Guy Has Some other stories here right on right on to get to them Speaking of Stadia Google's Google's little platform. Their destiny. TWOS population dropped more than half so so much for your future John And the whole story just just a wanted to hit the nail on the head that we have picked the wrong career paths. I knew that yeah. Apparently we should could be a a younger weirder and famous because talks where it's at and we missed the boat. Sorry if by emit tick tick tock pro. I could bring us in the tick Tock Generation. Just say the word. I'll do it. You can do it if you want to students work. Yeah I saw that on our sub read. It sounds like here's a link to their tick. Tock fun houses. We have one of those. Yeah that's what I said. We can't log into it. Darvish wonderful we did it. Yeah who has the logging story similar so we don't have to talk about this one for two months girl in the red top did not realize you. If you can't see the lens the Lens Canc- you bay real quick row quick. Here's a right now. Sorry for audio listeners. Either Jenner's I want you guys to point out. Which one of these people has seventeen million plus talk followers the most popular popular Tucker the earings he looks like an extra from Las. Boys isn't the one the mill is it girl who hello. This is my first either doing the smirke looking dude on the left is it. Her wrong is the girl James Born on the beginning whose faces covered. And I'm pretty sure. According to this article she's dating the guy over there also notice how none of them are interacting with each other. They're all staring at their own phones. Yeah Yeah you're describing it as a picture of kids This is an article from the New York Times but talking about how. There's a gold rush in Los Angeles right now of famous tick Tock stars buying up houses. So they can all create content together. this is hilarious because it reminds me of something that happened with like the minecraft gold rush where a bunch of Minecraft kids are moving mansions together and vine that had bind to similar thing though similar this or either I think a lot of them like to hang out by the pool. There's no furniture. There is a hammock they have not bought. Got Any yet at this stuff happened. Ten years ago with the whole minecraft houses they'll move into these mansions. They don't know what to do because there is no parents there is no. They're fantastic girl. I bless is there bless their hearts. I don't know it has or how well they don't live in the mansion. They just work there. They don't go in the pool because it's too cold They're also most of them. Every single one of them is under drinking age. Yeah most fintech talkers are between fifteen in nineteen yeah But but if you ever if you ever want to like that's cool. Yeah all just for the audio listeners. There is a guy with a cross cross tattooed on his tooth and has a ton of nose hair. I mean people have knows here. Yeah but he thought he looked cool in. That picture is a different nosair scores. It's got great hair. Anyway we will will link out to the story unfold right there. WHO's that guy with the FIDORA? No that's that's the old tick tock. Yeah that's thirties. twenty-three he's a finer. Yeah he's he's retired of the grooves mature. One go because let me show you some of my old vines and they go Venus So what I don't understand. They don't live in the house. Four of them do jammed as many questions can make content together. Yes and you can only live somewhere somewhere else in La or other parts of the world and they come to visit. Yeah this is a way for them to collaborate and do they call themselves tick talkers. Oh yeah that that's her. That's the the one that this is my first youtube video in the red top. She she she is one of the most famous tick tock which she do she does this. I'm doing right now. She does this. She's famous for her dance moves. I've only I have known suzy housing for the story. I'm only giving you the information which I have read Because I thought this was like some sort of onion article or something fake but we. I'm telling you we miss the boat. Zoe which one of them is supposed to be cloud strife. Wait we're going to Charlie Emilia's youtube there's only one video and it's just her talking in moving her arms. I don't know if we have time for it. You can pull it up While we do that so you you can read that article if you WANNA kill yourself or want to kill you you know you want to feel bad about yourself. Hate that I hate that. I'm burdened with this like desire to make like put thought into things not to diminish what they do. I'm not I'm not the kind of person who's GonNa Tear Jerker they're clearly doing something that's resonating with an audience and in their building that audience and they're very very responsible about what they are doing to continue maintaining that audience and it's made them a lot of money maybe we're too simple there. She is Welcome to my youtube. I don't even. I don't even tweet because I'll think of something. Go No this. This isn't worth it This isn't worth it Marta. uh-huh well I've I do. We can just do we have time. Say whatever you want. I've found tick tock so I missed the boat on vine and then I line I'm fine win and it was great but I missed bone excels like screw that Because when I went to go look for stuff has all just annoying things. I didn't dig deep enough after finally nine so tick tock is an awesome a platform specifically for like Meam mm-hmm generation because you pick a specific song and Basically these like will ideas will sprout up. And then you can pick that that song and say make to talk with the song and you can see a meam like planted and then grow into all these differ webs all these takes on a lot of bad some of them. Good in. It's all it's like you literally see it. Start and then grow and branch out into all these different CA- someone's doing transformative transformative on transformative trans- yeah ten seconds and we see that on all other media platforms like twitter and stuff flight. Yeah everything we see it but it's like with Tik Tok because it revolves around picking this specific piece of media. You can see it like you're literally like putting a plant in a potter colouring anti light and staring at in you you literally watch it grow from this one location telephone phone game. Yeah for memes talk is is. There's a lot of garbage. There's a Lotta just little kids dancing But if you like say not interested can you like the comedy stuff like I normally when I'm scrolling all see stuff that makes me like belly laugh like multiple times. I don't know that I want like how if I say I got TIC TAC. I'm probably not going to get to but say I got take talk. Is there a way for me to do it so that way. I don't get sixteen year old dancing girls popping up every three seconds. Sounds like I want calm. I want calm and you say not interested but not interested in what because I even have this problem with Google where it's like like it'll serve me me. A story of Victoria Beckham at a at has visited a jewelry store in south London. Or whatever are and then you'll go not interested in what doesn't interest you about this story and go illgau jewelry stores and I'm like I mean I guess but I also don't care about Victoria. Victoria Beckham Stories. Either it is. It is still where you have to go garbage. Scroll garbage scroll garbage. Scroll Oh this is a funny garbage garbage garbage garbage funny thing the effort for it you put into online dating except it's just kind of consume media online. Yeah I don't have time for that but I'm I'm happy for everyone that's doing it sure Will we'll try taking shit. I forgot to mention. This mansion is also called the hype house at the brainchild of chase. Hudson seventeen a tick tock star with more than eight million followers who is known online as low huddy good for him And he has some advice for you James and John who apparently once again to talk to 'em now according to him you have have to be young. You have to have a lot of energy and personality Nancy. A little weird. The Weird People get the furthest on the Internet said either. have to be talented at something or weird or funny mix or extremely good looking. And if you're all three you're a tick Tock God does. Did the letters get smaller and smaller to represent the reporter. Walking away. My brainless English suffocating itself it was like your name you must earn survival mode killers in his defense when we like get Not Not lectures but when we get like oh performance stuff from Youtube or whatever. They're very formal the send out these videos cures how to succeed on view. It's like be true. Tapie Weird. Speak with your. It's all the same language. And if so they're not he's not wrong seventeen-year-old But dangles his name. He's not well. Honey Oh honey honey. He's not wrong so show up soon. He'll be huddy and then normal holiday. This will happen in the span of four years in hoodie junior when he ages out I could have retired when we are twenty but we we messed up we. We came at the wrong time we came into school. Learn College ally For All the news stuff This weekend on funhouse coming up at least with us all together. The rooster teeth core cast join us for an eye tracker Video Fanfare Jessica. Asami return. People loved her in our worst games in play she's back Or making her look at dudes. Yeah Yeah and then also we have a little game play that I believe John brought up. You have a drunk friend. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's a little early access game. It goes planned necessarily bull no cut around the misogyny so There was another game. I don't these are long ago. No Internet cafe simulator ended. We do that we did that. I edited that like a month and a half I got. I don't remember sure. Yeah Ryan's in that. Maybe Adams not in it. Maybe I'm not as so many simulators and type of computer simulators. I forget what I'm in what I Q. Qc what I made a thumbnail for. I'm and lastly We got a little game play from. GTC's twenty sixteen game of the year. The witness At gloves love the witness is a game where you just play puzzles. Right do puzzles yeah. But then there's like a bigger Omega stuck in so he brought it into That's a great idea. I like that Yeah is there anything else you want to mention going on in the channel anything that is worth checking out On the channel I was just GonNa say if you find yourself with a couple extra bucks Red Cross and worldwide World Wildlife Foundation. I can probably use your help right now wrestling anymore. I know I know. WWF But Yeah but They could probably use your help right now. So if you've got a couple of bucks folks feel free to toss there's also You know there's that lady selling nudes so he's not doing it. She's standards anymore. Sorry what did you say. When your back's what's better for the environment her bring out news making was at seven hundred fifty thousand dollars worth just given away? Mil- a million dollars. Yeah yeah way more than he never paid Australian taxes either. Easing his way of getting around it. Smart Crass Ashley Lump Sum here. It's so crazy like I mean I I mean the tyrants no this confusing to say like I saw a chart that showed the California. It was like all these fires we know about in the DOS joining fires. Five Times what the California fires was. I saw like some firefighters. Still read something that is because it's eucalyptus trees to there are so much fat. It's just a warning and there's a video of trees exploding or it's aw madness. Yeah there's no James Right though. If there's a there's not a lot you can do financially. There are some organizations that will happily take your money and trained right but did you volunteer because what if what. If the only way to put out the fire. was you have to sacrifice your body so you come out like vivere. Data's on fire but you got stronger stronger than ever crabby vendetta got stronger after you went into the foot if you donate action donate your muscles. I don't muscles grow depended on the Republic Robbie Williams in that famous music video that I watch. That's the one I showed to my sister and I was like away. Let's watch them like John. Watch music the is is that this one was banned but squint. You have to look far censored but was censored is that what it was either. MTV that whole thing in the North American we'll show at once a little bit higher up up whereas in the British version it's lower but they still blur his crotch. It's so comical. It's so it's so fake. 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348: The Elizabests (Best Elizabeths) of the Year

The Popcast With Knox and Jamie

54:47 min | 9 months ago

348: The Elizabests (Best Elizabeths) of the Year

"Take out the women in my family. Everybody has a version of the name. Elizabeth Warren their name. So like my mom's middle name is Elizabeth. My middle name is Beth. Oh Wow this right yeah. Yeah sorry I was trying to go somewhere else. You're going to tell me something different interesting interesting. I'm sorry that I'm just telling you already knew you have in your family. My mom is an Elizabeth. My sister Mrs Lives with my sisters and Elizabeth. He's a great man. Hello and welcome. Epson number three forty eight of the desk. I'm your host knocks McCoy and I'm your host Amy Goldin. The podcast is a show dedicated to the life. Oh ADC and we're committed to educating you on entertaining but do not matter found out more about these. Elizabethan perceived check without innoccent dot com. You can also find some instagram and facebook at the podcast. And we're on twitter at podcast. Pot guys thanks for joining us this week as we are going to be a warning the Best Elizabeth of the year. But before we do that you guys have you heard? Knox has a brand new book coming out. Only they know they have not heard back. No one said anything about you guys. Obviously we know that you are fan of Knox's why would you listen? Are you here but we also know that you would be a fan of his writing if you haven't already read his first book which we highly recommend that you do. The wonder years we definitely recommending his second book. All things reconsidered. I wrote the foreword which I'm already getting some early rave reviews on the forward. I'm very excited. But you guys. We're not asking you just a preorder just so that we can put money in our coffers. What we're asking because actually we get none of that my any of the money when people buy books right like it's not like you get a check for every don't really you especially don't although. 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We need more shows to bench. Thankfully you're in luck. There's a new way to watch. It's called quitting a new premium streaming service designed for your phone with movie quality shows and episodes in ten minutes or less. They've got new episodes of fresh original shows. Releasing every single day and music explores that creative process between today's top musicians and they're behind the scenes collaborators with stars like why G and J Alvin Oh and punked is back. It's now hosted by serial. Prinker chance the rapper and none of his celebrity friends are safe. And in Nikki. Fresh Nicole Richie reveals her. Rapper Alter Egos World Qube. Has It all from the comfort of your phone? Download the QUBE APP now to enjoy free ninety day trial Jamie. Let's Talk Eliza bests now. How much of our production meetings do you think are tied up in trying to think of stupid names like this? I think ninety percents that could be. Because here's what happened for the inside like here's the inside baseball so what it is. That's exactly what it is you sports this year. Don't think so the inside baseball on how this happened is we had all these episodes episodes planned for April and May and then guess what we couldn't do any of them because some of them were summer. Movie previews crying movie preview. Heavy spring preview contestant preview. None of those things exists you guys. We're actually doing one on like we had knows episode plan that was connected to something. We were announcing who were not announcing that and so all of these kind of pivot so we have to come up with new. We had to kind of wipe the slate. Clean the whiteboard clean and come up with new episodes and we were like you know what it's been a while since we did kind of our version of what is a pageant. That's right I think Elizabeth secretly. They've had a huge years. They've been all over potholes but even more. I think this name like this kind of upset makes sense because here at the podcast media group we all kind of have a connection to the name Elizabeth for example you have some kind of proximity than I know the women in my family everybody has a version of the name Elizabeth smart and their names so like mom's name is Elizabeth. My middle name is Beth. Erin her middle name her like her she. You got rid of it right rid of your middle name. I yell legally I did did you. Women women are so put about why I want you legally got rid of your middle name. Yeah I'm I'm Aaron Hickman Welcome to one woman. Damn that's what we have to do. Oh I'm not judging by last name. You can't have seventeen middle lanes someone who wants to get rid of his birthday. I'm interested in people like traipsing around legality of of institutions. Like when I went to the the Social Security Office after I got married I was like cut Elizabeth she cool. You kept Hicks yes. You're selling alarm. We got did not care. She didn't care. I don't think anyone you have Elizabeth's in your family. My mom isn't Elizabeth my sister. I've got a family connections with but I think secretly. It's not just like a coincidence. I think that's actually a name. That is all over the place. Oh yeah listen. There's only been one year since eighteen. Eighty Elizabeth slipped one place below the top twenty five that was in the year nineteen forty-five and it was just because betty which is just a nickname for. Elizabeth was number eleven. So like it's a name that to this day is hugely popular. You know why I think it's popular. Listen Elizabeth it has four syllable which I'm interested in longer names. They're interesting to me. Cristiana is definitely more interesting than earn. Durham I think that's just boring right. IT HAS Z. Okay very fanciful on every not every Elizabeth's called it though. I don't understand the ones who don't but if you're GONNA have a hierarchy if Z. What does that say about you if your ass was essay about I think if it's an asset it's like no we don't I don't have sex before marriage and Aziz like well let's have a conversation interests goes all the way because the only Elizabeth I know with S.'s. Is Elizabeth Hasselbeck? Okay and Elizabeth Moss. Yeah that feels fair that those neary chastity belt bet. Here's the other thing it has. A Z also has kind of a lisp at the M. I. has more nicknames in a fraternity like. I'm a cigarette thing. I was not aware of the diversity of ways you could take the name. Elizabeth like the different kind of names of different sub nicknames. The different sub sub nicknames. Like that's a that's a big listen at one point in British history. No kidding approximately one quarter of all girls living at the time were named Elizabeth really but There have been over one hundred feature films that the main character has been named Elizabeth. So it's very popular name. And obviously we are. We Are we have a heart felt connection to name episodes. Because we've done the Chris America pageant. Right that's episode. One Ninety six and the mischief nine states of America episode two fifty four. Those do not stop them when I say not. Did you say Tom Again or did I miss him again? That was not our favorite. Tom's that was Thomas Augusta. Go Hey I just think. Sometimes a name runs a year. And that's just what you gotTa talk about. Well we're not forcing this. It's just what it is here. Okay let's get to the nominees so we'll run through a couple different sections here before you end up with our winter. But let's start here with the people who are actually in contention for Eliza Best of the year. Okay sorry. I is of course actress Elizabeth Moth Elizabeth Moss. She I volterra called her. The Queen of Pete TV. She has been very successful. She has a picture that is the opposite of broken She began acting. She was Zoe Bartlett. She was the daughter of Josiah Bartlett. The Best President. Who's ever lived by fictional or real On the West Wing. She went on to be on madman. Show that you're binging again. Benching this right yes. And she's great on that right. Yeah it's still. It's weird that we talked about this in office. She has the weird skill of everyone around her assuming she super super hot and I just I don't I don't think she has not been here. They walk around. Do y'all Zo. Yo-yo-you Christina Hendricks is they're literally Standing Joan literally standing beside her. It's so weird. And then she left madman went on to top of the lake agreement that we love. She won an emmy for that and then she also went onto the handmaid's tale so she's a nominee because she has great acting sensibility. She survived a couple of tough things. One scientology getting saying that yes. She's and she's still in it but she's like navigated better than most scientologists. Hollywood have but most importantly she survived Fred Ormiston. She was famously married. She met him on Saturday. Night live They got engaged three months later. Then they got married and then within ten months they were divorced and she. This was a quote she said He. It was a terrible awful marriage. He's so great at doing person impersonations but the greatest impersonation he does is that of a normal person wolf. Yeah and he later in an inner. You said she's right. I'm not a good boyfriend. I'm not a good husband. He must be pretty bad for scientologists to come out and start throwing gentle and she doesn't really talk about people she's pretty quiet. Yes Oh she's my first nominee. She's a real. She probably the the leader in the clubhouse I was the second nominee is Queen Elizabeth herself. She's almost like an institution in a sense of these Eliza best competitions She's a generational nominee. She's always here. She's been here forever. She's two hundred eighty years old. That's really impressive. For years old. That's so she just celebrated her birthday. That's really and like you know. She's obviously a monarch. But even more I think this year in particular and she is super oven because depending on how you interpret her handling of the royal exit of Prince Ginger Guy and the girl from suits. Hey like we're in megan known to those those people you could say like. She's really sympathetic yet. Or She's vigilant and she hasn't really indicated I guess which way she lands on it so she's maintaining the fluidity of like she's in favor of she's on in favor of it it's a classic soap opera move of like being able to play either side no matter which way you actually feel about it. I'm really impressed by it. I think she has an affection for Harry in the same way that she has an affection for well sure because they lost their mother at such a young age because I don't think she had an affection for their mother but it was like almost like a like. Okay well now. They need a motherly figure. Sure and I can be that for them. I can use a classic grandmother role. She's you know with the crown being so successful and seeing those sides of her life. I think it's made her much more sympathetic especially the people outside of Britain right and with the way she's handled the exit the megs it if you will I think she's handled it really well in a way that like she still refers to him as like hearing which is very informal. It's sad that we have to look at like punctuation to decide if there's emotion here yeah you know but I do think people like Olivia. Colman and people like Helen. Mirren who portrayed Onscreen have also made her more likable humanizer a little for nothing else. This has made me realize that the way you're listening to. Us break it down is like listening to me and my friends breakdown message board stuff on like college or NFL. Message Boards I. I'm realizing now that the sports for White Women and also this is like a little A sub thing that I enjoy I feel like every time. She's pictured she looks like a frog whose instantly become a human and it's an human close all of a sudden and I just really liked that human clay. You really bright pastel human close. And I'm just I'm how she's listening and she survived a lot. 'cause Phillip does not seem great both fictional and the real version of him doesn't live. Go thinking offer a ever okay. My next nominee is of course Liz. Oh look this is a woman who said he classical flute performance at the University of Houston. She was in the band like running. That flew like a boss. She she ends up. Having these sleeper hits good as hell and treat hearts which she dropped two years before they even make the billboard. Hot One hundred. That's a commitment. She she gave a tweak. She won three grammys this year and she had a tweet. That said eight years touring giving out free. Tickets to my undersold shows sleepless nights on my car. Losing my dad and giving up a music playing shows for free beer and food with thirty dollars in my bank account constantly writing songs hearing no but always saying yes. Glad I never gave up Liz. Oh she kills it. Social Media. She got featured on the cover of British vogue which was really revolutionary for a plus size women of Color She makes people feel good luck to lyrics of. Eliza are one if you don't if you don't love you anymore just walk out the door okay. That's a life lesson. Oh Tree Taurean poetry. Oh I know and then second is I know McQueen but I don't need no crown. You guys were all queens. We don't need crowns. I the thing you and you know the the thing. I respect the Muslim people and like projects degree of difficulty so for suffer. A plus is one of color to be expert in the flute. I mean come her making it as difficult search. Thank you very much so good at it. It's it's a really not one. You would've thought coming into this year but definitely can contender The next nominee is Beth march and this Elisabeth She's a real dark horse candidate. Mostly due to the success of Greg. Cinematic adaptation of little women played by Eliza Scanlon. Beth march for this movie. She's both the the heart in the narrative hub of the movie that allows the other characters so fully inhabit their own. Dramatic Arcs right so like her performance. It's not as crucial to the movie in a more visceral sense but like Sir Sha Ronin like her performance is like a like a tour to force right timothy shallow his hair student something so good. She's like completely redeeming the air. The the Amy Character Right. Beth's her innocence and her tragedy in waiting it pulls everything together to let everyone do what they notice that. You did not mention Emma as Emma Watson as meg. She's there to hang. He's the worst megs the dumbest. That's what I think. Meg's the dumbest Maga's lake. I want love and wealth will. Yeah about one more look. I'm an outsider. Come to the movies. Like what do I even know about anything but I came away from like which one did she want? I feel like she still wants both. But she's just like repressed about it. Yeah I agree. Beth marches so. Good we subpoena flip. Can we talk about the The new flow pugh movie with Chris Pine Bluff. Live your wild. A lot of people were nice to reach out of the year at like. The only thing missing is all split. Sprinkling little of Zafran would be different groups funded film and you know what I don't even. I don't even need him to make movie. I just need the news of it. Updates yeah this is my pitcher. Hollywood is like just starting out and stuff you never intend to make because it keeps. Us keeps in the middle if you told us like. There's a gritty Mickey Mouse with walking Phoenix. And like there's murder. I'm great Mickey Mouse. You don't ever have to make that move but just tell me you're GonNa make me here for it gets me through the night. So that's right. Okay my next nominee is of course Wanda Elizabeth Beth more. Look Beth Moore. Who is for? Maybe you don't know. This is a niche choice. But it's the right way. Oh you know you know you know. She's an American evangelist. She's an author. She's a Bible teacher. She's from Houston Texas. I just want you. I just want to read you quickly. Her three of her last tweets. Ready quote just another quarantine Monday. Let's work as hard as we can and Pajama Pants. Second thing is basketball is the goat and third all caps. I just want to go to church on Sundays like I. Just like she multitudes. Listen she loves Scottie. Pippen more than she's watching the last answer green light assuming that's why and she loves Scottie. Pippen over Michael Jordan Cyprus spicy take to me. That's just not right. It's just the thing. Here's the thing we love about Beth. More and why she got nominated. She has had a year where maybe prominent pastors. Maybe one. Whose Name Ryan's with Ron mccur. Ryen MIC d'arthur okay. I like that okay He told her that she should quote go home and of course twitter and that heaven that now. She handled it with a lot of grace. Yeah here's the thing like she always does. That's right. Twitter has divided into two camps. There's evangelical twitter and there's progress twitter. I am nominating Beth. More for the Elizabeth Competition because she has decided not doing either of those. Oh like she's not committed to either this camp she's not saying I'm this or that and neither of those camps like that by the way they both come for her in that way but I liked that. She's like look no. She tweeted this year. My favorite tweet a few things about Christ like manhood. It is fierce enough to fight for women bold enough to WanNa Woman Imbaba class safe enough to be alone with a woman. Muscular enough to scatter a crowd of men ready to stone simple woman and brazen enough to send a woman with good news. This look bring that free. Can Heat Beth more again when we talk about with a lot of these nominees talking about degree of Difficulty Beth? More operate amongst a bunch of like Evangelical Judd's like that's really impressive. It's really impressive. And she's never broken. She's never like freaked out and said the F. Word and everyone's been like I get it. That's cool no worries she's maintained. That's that's the kind of Elizabeth's that's right. It's more Christ like than a lot of the passers you criticize her folk anyways. Next many this is and I think you know. We talked about this as we were In the boardroom. Really trying to academically scrutinize these nominees. Right yeah we're talking about. How top heavy this group is. There are a lot of really Heavily favor contenders. And then there's a subset. There's a there's a les Ha Heavily FAKE HAVE HAD IMPRESSIVE YEAR. Very remarkable years on their own right and that That leads into the next. This is Betty Gilpin She's definitely darker candidates. She probably won't win this year but she is sure to win in future years. I she's doing a lot of great work on TV. She's on glow right. Now have you. Have you kept up? A glow Gosh. I have it so good. Really good in it. Yes she really out and breeze really good at it. Mark means really good. She's going to be Ann Coulter in the upcoming season. American crime solving really interested in She was a nurse. Jackie my mom's favorite. Tv show. You cannot just this past week. That loves that show so much. If they made a change of nurse Jackie I think she would fund it by herself like just with her love I talked about how great she is in the hunt. The move by Damon Lindelof. And she's a slate of projects lined up for this year next. And lastly her husband he is named Cosmo and she's still agreed to marry him and be with him. They have no. He's got the name of a dog or like a comedic relief. Character on Seinfeld like do you for you would it be? If you're like you met a guy you didn't know his name yet like there was a connection. There's a vibe you know like I really like this guy but then you found out. His name was like George Costanza spark right like Olaf. This happened to me last year. I dated a guy told you his name. What's his name? It doesn't matter and I told you I would tell you his name. Not because I was embarrassed by but like any time I did tell someone his name. People were like That's a weird name. Put you gotta give me like as a Yogi bear or something or it was around your rhyming your Soga Rhyming. That I can't even I can't do it. How old are you think? Betty Gilpin is I think she's younger than me. So I'M GONNA say thirty three. That's exactly held. She thought on. I'm debate me. I didn't see either. Do the math. I did the math. That's impressive thank you I. She reads older than me. She reads a lot older. Yeah away just in a more mature way no she. She looks a lot like Kim from better call Saul but in a different way. There's another TV show you don't watch TV show. But she's like to watch it unless watch breaking bad like I just feel like holistically everyone on Watch breaking out there. But they don't whatever's fine so that's my that's that's the nominee. Do you want to do the seven? Yes so up next is of course. Bethany Frankel listen look. She just tweeted that she watched broad church and loved it. I'm all in. I'm Bethany Frankel. She's like guys I didn't know I realize. I like mysteries Belly FRANKEL FOR THOSE. Who Know she is a reality. Tv Personality Entrepreneur. She famously gave us the skinny girl. cocktail company which she founded and then sold for a freaking hundred million dollars sought among like a lot of money issue marriage now but is she good at great. Tv great content. Yes she is. She really has had a great year because she famously has left the hospital. New York City. She's been in eight of its eleven seasons but she's like I can do better like I can do better content on my own. She also created. She's the founder of be strong a disaster relief organization. She started it and like started like three years ago. She raised three hundred thousand dollars for Hurricane Harvey in Houston. She then raise money for the hurricane. Like let's let's relief efforts breakfast city and then money. Can you imagine if you were funding? Our hurricane we're back wouldn't want this tornado to not just be a tornado. But the really they're gonNA do it. That's like somebody who's taking her weird journey. This is a woman who really got famous because she was on. A SEASON OF MARTHA STEWARTS. The apprentice like and she finished second. And then that led to the real housewives. Oh I didn't realize and then that led to the real housewives of New York City took that created. A drink company was like I'm GonNa make which who doesn't love a skinny girl Margarita. Good creates a cocktail company. Sells it for one hundred million and is like and now. I'm going to use my power for good. Not just getting Glam. Alon Kim Kardashian saw with a sex tape yeah now. You're trying to get people who are in jail unjustly. Could I look at that? Yeah but So she was also on shark tank. One of my favorites seasons nine and ten shoes really GonNa Shark tank as well so I think that's a really great nominee so doesn't nominees. It's a good class again. I feel it's top heavy but it's a really good full class. Do we WANNA talk about the Elizabeth who didn't make the nominees who got so close to the final eight the elite eight-man. You will sports again. S So close to the elite eight but unfortunately did not quite make the cut the first one is of course Elizabeth Warren talk about not making the listen. Here she is. She's an American politician. She's the senior senator from Massachusetts. She's a former professor sir. These are all very impressive. Like resume skills right until you realize that the law she practices bankruptcy Morey also. She's written like five or six bucks. Guess what they're about bankrupt all come on Thanksgiving. She was Republican until Nineteen ninety-six. Until now I didn't know the craziest that she has a dog that we all love. She went to the University of Houston like elite eight nominee. Lonzo oh hey She started many universities But here's the thing. She said. She was native American. Here's the thing. It doesn't matter if you take an ancestry dot com tasks and your ten percent like your ten percent first of all most native American tribes. Say that it's not just genetics. It's tribe membership. She's never been a member of a tribe. Here's the thing. She has an action figure because of Mitch McConnell saying about her nevertheless she persisted sure. These are impressive things but again bankruptcy is boring you an you didn't become the Democratic nominee. You didn't end. I will also say you got dunked on by two Subaru. Why guys all this crazy? I don't know one of which looks crazy. You can figure out who which one is which right so I just need better from you. Look forward to you trying to get another year. Yeah you can come back next year the next Elizabeth who didn't make the cut. This is Beth. Foale music how. They had this out of the box but they had a very. They had a tough year. Jamie for lotteries INS mostly because number one. They dabbled into politics. Which is tough when you're religious. A complaints theology with police. Churches stayed calm. It's more complicated to be wanting knowledge that that was also they have some unfortunate connections to the Prosperity Gospel. It's a if you don't know what Prosperity Gospel is. It's a predatory manipulative form of the Gospel. That's it's kind of like an Mlm for the soul you know. Oh my God if way anyone is phrased prosperity Gospel ever. And then lastly they danced around their acceptance of the conversion therapy idea. Yeah it's a it's a practice that makes about as much sense spring into your mouth so there's even weirder stuff that I won't get into. It was just a weird year for the thing and the reason they almost got it is look they bay my some Dope Music Bob. Yeah that's really. Actually what they're known for its they. They went from like a really small local church. Music Ministry in two thousand nine and by two thousand thirteen. They had a fully-fledged record label and Publishing Company on and a lot of songwriters and worship leaders came out of their church. One of agree a former green light a mandolin cook who I literally love. So much. She's so gifted Came out of this church And but here's the thing wake you just you can't. You can't always convince your congregation that you can raise a kid from the dead who's died. Yeah us that's why who's going to be a final contestant and Elizabeth that's true so our next nominee who almost made the cut is betty from the archie comics also from Riverdale. Here's the thing. Betty Cooper was always my favorite character in the archie comics. But by the way she's named for a literal Betty Betty Jankovic who is a Czech immigrant. Who briefly dated Archie? Co-creator BOB men Montana. Okay well I know right Here's the skill says she has. She is smart talented suite tomboy yet. Beautiful Blonde hair and blue eyes. She converted me on blonds like. Oh my gosh. Could Blondes lobby the worst? Oh they they probably are. She's friends with everybody. She's a loving daughter sister. She likes to help the homeless. She reads to senior citizens. Wow who are running for president. That's so sweet. Here's the problem. She didn't make the cut because she treats Veronica badly even. She says it's her best friend. She treats her like trash. She's smug and her. Morality is convenient at best sometimes. She's moral and sometimes she's like here is dark betty and you can get him a pants like I like that. It's tough to see Rogers way hotter than her just way hotter that just because it's a fact of I'm not it's not me. On my opinion it's a fact of science hotter up and she's rich to you rich and super frigging hot. I don't like you know very fair. Okay the next one who didn't make the cut is Lizzie. Mcguire and she was poised to have a very big year by In August of nineteen announced that there would be a revival. Liz McGuire revival. No one asked for and then it was way. No one's jaded lizzy McGuire thirty in New York. Living Your best on your vision board where you like this year. Our hope is the year Lizzie. Mcguire you know what turned me around on. Hillary Duff was younger. A turn me nothing to her. She is terrible over it. I don't want anything. So she was going to reprise her role as Liz McGuire and they were GonNa Bring Back Super Cartoon which like what are we doing. Why are we? Why don't we another cartoon here? Cartoon it's only partially excitable. You look like a dumb animation like I like Jimmy Cricket but for a white woman and it was going to be fine or whatever. She's an interior decorator in New York. City I'm sorry not even interior decorator. She can be an apprentice which that's what people love to see an apprentice here decorator in New York at the means you can still like stay out late and have a Lotta says. Yes but Dizzy said actually. No we got do not like that. I know that's why she can't make the list so our families coming back. Gorda was come back. I didn't say you knew that because knows people anything gordove especially was not. He had no plans he was he was. He's like I'm Jordan. Kat Alano if an opposite day because I'm not interesting or hot in any way. So the show runner. She dipped in January because they had creative differences. Which what that meant was Disney said the series and rb family friendly enough to be on Disney. Plus which is one hundred percent what Disney is family friendly. Why Hilary Duff? Thought she could have threesomes on Disney plus and like Netflix. But it's not going to happen. It's not gonNa work so all that I think. The the Hollywood reporter said the first script there was going to be sex and cheating as a central point. And I think Bob Eiger goofy sought. I was like okay. The next nominee. Who honestly the kite is Beth. Pearson Beth Pearson. Of course I have no idea who knows the reason. I kept watching this despite the fact that it was emotional pornography. Sure she is married to Randall. Okay okay because Sterling K. Certainly like step on her tail. We'll see about Sterling K. Brown. So she's beautiful. She's smart. She's funny she's dependable. Listen he calls her her rock. Obviously Win Randall's dad is dying. Sh the family takes them in. She becomes a confidante and a caretaker to Randall's dad. Listen she loses her job. She keeps her head up shapes our hope alive. Here's the problem. Here's why she didn't make the cut. She decided to go with her cousin to go see her mother in DC so they take a road trip and she confronts her mom she confronts her dad's chair 'cause he's dead and she realizes you know what. I don't need to be a liar anymore. I need to get back to my childhood dreams and I needed to bid on Sir. This is someone who was a gifted ballet dancer at age. Twelve now suddenly decides at thirty nine. She needs to become a dancer again. Guess what you do not get Elizabeth's when you think at thirty nine. You could be at dance. Does she make it a Tamil? Tell how long when did rails dad die because I feel like in the second episode? I remember them saying like he's about to die like at the end of the season okay. That's pretty maybe the second season I'm GonNa ask you another question You said she confronted a chair. Could I have a little bit more information? Oh yes. She had to make a tearful admission to her father's old chair in the Living Room. He dead but the chair still there. Clint Eastwood like the twenty. Whatever sixteen and assertive that was more aggressive? Sort of this was more like people. When people make tearful admissions at gravesites? Instead of her going and getting like humid at the cemetery she kept to the to the guy's a quick one or sponsor stamps dot com for all our sakes. We need to avoid crowds. Anyway we can right now. But what if you need to go the post office? 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It was a banner year for her because she became pregnant at roughly the age of sixty ish her pregnancy was foretold by divine being and she became an aunt to the eventual savior of the world. Jesus really just being the yet to Jesus seems like it's so much more fun and cooler than being the mom to G.'s. Mom seems like that's a busy job. Yeah I am. Yeah you just be like. Hey you WANNA go. Fish just grinding out Another winner who was here This year Liz Lemon. We Love Lemon. This is a this is a repeat winner. She won multiple times for her work in on and around. Thirty rock for probably her. Most impressive work was her ability to humanize Alec Baldwin on this show. It's really even hilarious. I can't do that. And he keeps putting babies in her. So that's a lot of that. Probably one of the Arcana female TV characters of all time She is a true ambassador for Elizabeth's everywhere and I'm here to my favorite quotes from Louisiana. The heart all right number one all of humankind has one thing common the sandwich I believe. All anyone really wants in life is in peace. Need a sandwich that's infinitely. Oh My Gosh. That's so true. And then lastly lovers. Oh that word bums me out unless it's between meat in pizza is true. It's good role model for us how to eat night cheese. I love her Another pass winner Elisa. Hamilton I two time winners. Well she won as a philanthropist co founder of the first private orphanage in New York City and she was the wife and defender of Alexander. Hamilton She also wanted a character in Hamilton. The musical most notably for when she sings. Burn Super Joke Song Hammers? She Burns something as she's like burn. Alex is really great. It's get treated her like crap. Have you seen the musical for my money? I think nonstop satisfied and burn those. Are the songs you leave. And you're like that was incredible those reforms. I think the women are. It's it's like they're underrated for like they come out and they bring the Hammer. They come a little late after things have gone but like every time the show up for incredible satisfied is the best. It's really good. And then lastly betty draper controversy. Who's Benadryl Oh of course you don't you you. You don't know the greatness. I remember watching the gray. She's great she's do you like so based on January Jones? No because of last night honors. You don't like her because the last one. I thought you did like because you turned around a little bit for me but lake. That's what she turned the corner from me so she was a character on madman. She's played by January Jones and she started out as just like a nine hundred fifty s smoke show but then she developed into a reviled nuanced and ultimately sympathetic figure in the show's world especially when they made it like for almost half a season she was fat betty for just like no really good reason. She said we're fat suit and it was. It was kind of a flex for her to do. It still look pretty hot and she was like. I'M NOT GONNA gain weight for this role. Just going to wear the slammed the show she drops away to episodes like it's a little hot and of course that's how blonde statement is so. Those are the past winners in attendance. And now I think Jamie it's time for you to talk about the top three Elizabeth's from okay. So the first award goes out to the Elizabeth fan favorite winner It goes to Lonzo. Here's the thing this is. Why look this is a woman who at Coachella last year kept? Having technical difficulties. She finally stopped. She said I refuse to have another technical difficulty. If THEY AIN'T GONNA get my music right. I'll get the music gray and she pulls out that frigging flute playing her own music to her own song. It's pretty impressive. She always keeps her flute. Honor that's just really. You know who knows who knows. Tech Guy. Chad is going to get this right. She got to be ready to go so she is. Of course. Our Favorite Winstons. Regulations are first runner. At who of course will handle the banner if in case the winner you know can't handle the responsibility. Were perhaps dies during her reign. But the first runner-up is of course Beth more. Wow you know what it is. We don't want her to go home. We want her here. We want her active showing us. How can you be somebody? Who's not the worst on twitter? She's doing an amazing job. Twitter as the dumpster fire. But she makes it not so much. Yeah we want Christians who were not the worst and she's a great example of that and then finally our winner of the two thousand twenty Elizabeth's is Queen Elizabeth. Wow I know. Here's the thing. She's a long time nominee first time winner at ninety four years old. It's because look we can tell that she cares about people. She's clapping for those carers. Weyrauch posting those Rainbow Sean. She's doing a great job in the midst of a lot of chaos and she's leading than some would say the actual leaders of the country so Kudos to her and being are Elizabeth's of twenty twenty. It's R- What an honor The Susan Lucci effect is officially over. She's gotten her title. This was you know Vegas had this little is with Mas Year but it just it wasn't it wasn't her year was Queen Elizabeth Year. So congratulations to her. Okay guys. That's our conversation on the Best Elizabeth's of the year. We hope enjoyed a few thoughts and opinions on our thoughts. Independence Leila's nauseam accomplished three forty eight. Rj Me you and do some land. Let's do some like. What is your relied this week? Carried by this week is extraction the film. How on Netflix error? You may need to Chris. Hemsworth which I will do. I think it was like I watch extraction and it was like it was amazing and Not for the audio. I've watched fifteen minutes but I love that fifteen minutes thing. Do I want Chris. Hemsworth to be successful and do I love him. I love this little like a love is all Spanish wife. I love their three babies. They got twins. I love every I love his brothers even though they're not as talented. I love every his love for his brothers. I Love His love for his surfing. Koalas like I love it. But here's the thing. This is moving not good. I'm red lighting. It is this was a cash. Grab by the Russo brothers. This was a cash. Grab by Chris. Hemsworth this was the cash grab. Did you know that? The Guy who is g in the in the movie. I don't know names I don't know any name the snipers or G. That's the director. Is it really yes? Wow that's a situation on. Its out any director. Who's like house kind of want to be in this? But not like tigers like what? Td wants to be in it like where he's like. I've fleshed out this role and I know I'm a good actor. It's just like Hey Sean I don't want to and so. He's that made me counterpoint. I love it. I love that it's violent in like another let guys. They're so little dialogue in this. The way you know is the opening of the movie. When how'd you describe it? He you don't know if he's dead or that's right. He's napping dead or in a coma that's right. He wakes up and then drops off a what appears to be thirty foot clearly two trillion mile high cliff and then goes directly deep down into the water and then sits cross legged on the bottom of any meditates for an undistinguished amount. Supposed to tell us everything we need to know about his character. No that's that's when the monkey hard. This is a hard pass for me. I don't want movies like this. I think actors can come out of Marvel and have success. Not many of them have. I'm looking at you do little So good luck. God speed to all of that Chris Evans knowledge for you prison. So this this is like a Across tween a born movie and John Movie. Yet like a homeless man's a simplistic version of that. You know it is his name. Is Tyler at that tells you anything. That's that's how I tyler if Tyler's a mercenary it's GonNa vibe to yet is Brad the Mercer Guy. Everything coming when it's coming like David Harbour shows up to save the day you're like he will betray him. Like you just know it's going to happen. It's so cliche it's I just. I don't know Chris too hot they like. I don't they don't know anything. He is too high. He just needs to get uglier or something My Red Light. This week is the television program. Saturday night live at home. I just do we have to do this. We do like is they have nothing else to look forward with. No I'd rather look forward to. I'd rather stare at the wall and watch this. This makes this makes me sad. This actually makes me thou- like the absence of snl is less negative than the presence of it in this malformed malnourish states that makes sense. We talked about this at length in the more you know this week but do you think it got better than the first version. There were some improvements. Sure like it's still not great but like the improvements it makes you feel uncomfortable. Yeah the improvements. Were just like it was so bad that now. It's not that bad but it's not good. You know we would have anyone leave on TV. Sure Yeah we talked about like like you said Jim. You talk more about this in the more. You know This past Monday so if your friends you can check that our interesting that conversation you can sport Patriot and check out that conversation. What is do you have a reconsideration? This do you have one. Of course you know. Okay good I do. Yeah yeah okay so this week. I'm reconsidering Brad Pitt. Oh okay is the thing. Don't she do it in two thousand five? I was team Aniston All the way. I wasn't here for Brad or Angelina and I was like. They're dead to me forever. And then what happened? No you talk about your Angelina. Jolie Shame Fest on rapid you need to knowledge that you need to pay the pay the toll for it about own that like well. I've still got kisser. Say That we do know that they did an investigation and found that there was no evidence that he had abused his children. So she's crazy if you've listened to our cinema. Saad piece Mrs Smith you discover. We did a little deep dive on like all the ways in which she has stated every co-star she's ever been in a movie with were married them like it's a situation with her Emma saying his he's also been engaged to a lot of co stars for me. He was just a very like your love for him. It was like is he crazy and be like team Aniston forever. I love Vino and living proof. I cannot give in. I love that smart water. But here's the thing that happened. First of all we got inglorious bastards like do. I like cassie great. Is He Graham Saying Gore? Lami just like the best modem lean away pointed out to me last year that you know who funds a lot of movies featuring leads of color and movies that are nuanced about people of Color Tat. It's Brad Pitt. You guys bracket funded moonlight that you know. Won An Oscar Salma twelve years a slave if bill street guitar the last Black Man in San Francisco He did one of Bong Jun. Ho's me these like you're like oh maybe perhaps it is like great. Then he shows up in once upon a time in Hollywood John Krasinski some good news and then of course despite that I'm surprised that you just outlined snl he did do a dandy like called up pretty good vouch e yes so so I think I'm I think I'm back on team Brad. I think you're right to do that. Yeah all done. That's the point of a reconsideration. Right there Meisel differ. It's I've talked about the NFL draft The last couple of weeks so I watched the whole thing And you know the biggest takeaway from the draft was in. This is a lot of the League is hard about this as well. The general managers the coaches the whole mythos around the NFL's like they just grind tape in like sleep two hours and just like watch. Practice film and Diagram plays like that. A lot of them are talking about how they like this. They like doing the draft a home they liked having to be on a conference call and their kids are in the room with them and they're talking about how like this slowdown this reconsideration of like what work is and how much time you put into work and the obsession and the fixation how. It's really making them change. The way they approach work and I thought was really cool because if you watch the draft at all you saw a lot of the obviously you saw the players get picked and they were with their family. And that's no different. We always used to see that. But we also saw coaches and they'd make a picking their kids would run in and like hug them or do the coaches dog at bill. Bell checks dog sat the chair next to him. Checks Cyborg but see him. Feeding is like many Husky treats was pretty. It was just really cool to see them in their home environments but even more just to see like the infrastructure of football slow down and like they have families and they're humans too it was really cool eight. Listen I I have never watched the draft. Never and this time I did like why shallow by hot a little bit of it and I was like. Oh I like these dynamics between moms and girlfriends I like the guy that had the burner phone. Yes ma'am yes with his girlfriend and then like sweetly. I saw some people giving some grief to to Henry rugs who was wearing a robe but then I read that. He was wearing the road because old spice was like. If you'll wear this robe will donate three hundred twenty thousand dollars to ninety way. What and it was like it was behalf of all Ricky's from all thirty two. Nfl teams to kick start community efforts. And you know what you just want to wear robes where you wear the road for you but yeah but you wind was really. It was good to see the humanizing elements. It was good. It made me feel better about my life to see like some of these coaches with so much money and terrible decor choices right. He's really Gus Malzahn. I saw that I saw like your whole like your mantra. Hurry up huddle up or whatever on your dining room like leave. His house was also decorated. Like a sweater vest. It's tough but copperplate. Gothic Font is not play. Well Okay do. You have a green light for this idea. I have two things that I'M RECOMMENDING FOR PEOPLE TO WATCH. I'm still not reading. Reading is over. I'm watching things on Netflix. The first recommendation is the TV show. Never have I ever look. I freaking love Mindy Caling. I love her weird friendship romance with. Bj Novak I love that. We've never seen her kid bike. Who's like seventeen now? Like I love everything about Mindy cabling and so this new show. My expectations were low because she does not have a long history of making really good. Tv shows where you at the breaking point of like if the suck to. You might not like set sail. Yes because I was like I just don't know that I can. I can be here from indicating but not the creator of Shirley Kelly but guys. This is a coming of age comedy about a Modern Day. First Generation Indian American teenage girl who it's a delightful show now listen to be clear. It is funny but it's not lapse every second it's endearing but it's not sappy it's a great character study when it gets a little predictable in the plotting There's a fantastic narrator that I will not give away but the narrator is like the funnest surprise ever in the narrator changes for one of the episodes and then that narrator is a delight The hot guy that's in the teen show is magically hot and. I feel like I can say that. Because he has bags under his eyes something like he's also like forty three and we're supposed to believe he's a junior in high school. The show just had a lot of heart. I also love the show. They maybe the best job that many killing has ever done as a woman of color in Hollywood she created a show that had so few white people in it and I mean across the board. She did such a great job. I do also love that. Like one of the Friends of the main character who is like this tension of like are they friends. Are THEY NOT. Are they more? His name is Ben. Do you know that. Bj Novak's first name. Is Ben Interesting interesting so it was very good and did you say? Did you say it was thirty minutes long? Yeah it's only thirty minutes long ten episodes and then finally guys I was not when I saw the Thomas Middle Ditch and bench. Words were going to do a comedy like stand up to person that was going to be completely improved on the spot. I was like a nifty thing for those reasons Improv. For me is just an uncut. It's just a chance to feel awkward when it's not funny when it's not good but I really love Thomas metal ditch from Silicon Valley. Been Schwartz is of course Jon Ralph Izzo forever. Well listen. It is genuinely ridiculously funny. The fact that the audience is filled with Quirky Weirdos that just lent itself so beautifully to what they create onstage there are real moments of brilliance in it and their chemistry together is really good. I'm GONNA argue Thomas. Middle ditch is a fantastic actor. I've I've heard anecdotal stories. About how great he is just like Improv. That's how he got Silicon Valley. Good it's just like him. I think with Tj Miller. Someone else he just so good at Improv. And just like in general at acting again. So it's worth a watch. What's Your Agreement Migraine? Light is the movie the invisible man. Oh I saw a couple weeks ago. I saw the trailer We've talked about how bloom house like. They just make money and they just make they make good projects. They're not always super commercially. Viable Sharp and they're not always like they're very niche so it's not always like super my wheelhouse and when I saw the invisible man I thought that's probably like the cliche thriller. There's a weird thing in it. And then Elizabeth Moss being in. It made me WanNa reconsider it so We rented it. We pay the nineteen ninety nine. And it's actually. It's a niche movie for sure but it's actually really really good Elizabeth. Moss is incredible and as much as I'm ready to like see a performance like avenue. She's that good. She's probably overrated. She's not she's always great she's consistently always great. It's very capably shot. They play with angles. They play with camera angles. Lot they play with the technology and a really interesting way and Elisabeth. Moss Man. She is just. I don't know I'm getting more and more respect for her. Especially as we watching madman just like the subtle nuances of her performance and everything but I I highly recommend I get. I get it if you want to pay the twenty bucks but if you don't want to pay twenty bucks I totally get that but when it comes off out on like whatever comes out on definitely check it out because it's worth the four five bucks for sure of like a like a movie night you WanNa have get to know all right guys can do for this episode of the podcast. Remember free go anytime you shopping on him. Make sure to go to Amazon dot com slash shop slash podcast bursts of your purchases. Your favorite item purchase using dowling does league was Jamie. This is just. It's a game called quicks which you X.'s. And is a fast family dicing. Look here's the thing. This game has seventeen hundred reviews and it has four point eight stars like that's pretty impressive so it looks fine I did take a gander at the QNA. Okay one of the questions. So the way this fastfamily dice game works is there's like a white guy and then The other die or colored. There's blue and red and a green and so one of the questions was. Is there a color blonde friendly version and thankfully a browser answer that and wrote down? So can you guys all right you guys? I'm telling me golden you can find me on twitter facebook and instagram. At Jaime de Golden on North score you can find on social of Mexico. You can feel it or my brand new book. All things reconsidered wherever books are sold guys. Thanks to listen. We'll see next time you guys talk.

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Episode 126: The Willoughbys + The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus

The Film Buds Podcast

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Episode 126: The Willoughbys + The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus

"Hello everybody. Welcome back to the film buds podcast. This is episode number. One hundred and twenty six louis discussing twenty-seven without realizing how wrong that obviously was close close. No I was twenty seven. Oh I see I see and my name is Henry. I'm Khloe and joining US remotely. Yeah we should say we're doing another remote show. Is Our friend Henry Wilkinson? Hello Hi so. Thanks for coming back on the show. Thank you for having me. It's been a little while. Yeah it has on my Gosh Henry so much too and this this this time around. We have some interesting reviews. We have a review of the new net flix film or animated film the Willoughby's and then we have a retro review of Terry Gilliam's the imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus from two thousand nine. And then we have a little bit of news. We do have a listener question concerning the recent. Amc theater Bam of all universal movies. So we'll get to that and other stuff we watched I watch all the usual stuff so thanks again for joining us especially you will. Yeah you've been doing all right these days. You're trying to stay busy being creative. Inner creativity is a is a gift right now before. A lot of people saying they're like board. I've been on satellite VER- frustrated but I've yet to be bored is yeah definitely not bored. Sometimes like overcome with emotion like manifest itself in different ways. But right right there I do know what you mean so thankful for amazing friends like you guys your little praying you. Khloe that I got yesterday was sweet like we did. See My test that my mom got here. Your card did yeah. She said it was beautiful. Good glad to hear it. Yeah she made me a mask Henry. So we'll all these wonder you'd love it. It's still pretty. I need to see if made Avidesh cow but like really pretty. Yeah I love that. Oh my Gosh Gore. Khloe how? `Bout You? You've been doing all right. Oh Yeah Upenn Moll. Things considered very lucky. Fortunate of things. Are you know as the say? But we're working with working with it relatively Your stepfather's doing amazing amazing things. Oh Yeah Kenan war. That's right. Yeah you'll bike actually is too late to buy shares. I think it told you while ago but anyway we're out here. We're trying to make sure it says you know ethically distributed as possible sure. No one will know what we're talking about. But that's Okay. Oh and also as we talked about or we alluded to on the last episode. The film buds or really all three of our shows. Got A story in the local newspaper. And so you can go to news of ORANGE DOT COM which I'll put in the show notes and check out a little story about us which was pretty cool very very. Flattering you. Yeah Yeah and if you're possibly joining us because you discovered us through that welcome welcome. We hope you'll stick around to you for a little while and thank you so much. You picked a good one. We got the the guest of all guests. Yes yeah and as always recently if the audio isn't perfect just bear with us. We're using the best or everything that we have. So hopefully that's enough people again. Stand next to go find if you have a heating unit for instance outside just put an ear up to that. Give a few minutes. Then listen to the podcast. And they'll sound really good. Henry's a wind my Masha. She's happy to see you. Ought we gotta do a cat. Day will be so earlier when I was like testing the audio she so small Henry. You haven't seen her. She's yet she's just like it's like is it bigger than a loaf of bread. No that's what they say somebody breadbox. I Dunno to those bread bags that it comes in you know and you get the bag. The point is will. Ke's cat is smaller than he's so small she's like four she's never getting bigger. She's only four. Maybe Five Hugh. I don't WanNa say in front of him. It's never say yeah. I think he's I think ten thinks some boots or thirteen so really the other elderly sheep talk. This is just our standard toss. I hope then understood by. But what's feel very lucky to have pets is will? I can briefly talk about something funny. That happened north. Think it's funny. We'll be the judge of that Henry so anyways a few days ago I was watching. Everybody loves Raymond Class which is just a great little sitcom one of my favorite scope watching. It can't about it Ray Romano Great. I'm he's the man anyhow. I was watching Maybe three or four together and for some reason. I don't know why I was very much a a laughing mood. Just laughing hysterically at every. I don't know why exactly but I was. It was just constant constant stream of laughter and Steria yes overtime. Yeah I had to let loose somehow over time or as the show progressed. My as I started to laugh more and more my pitch of my laughter started to go higher and higher like without me even realizing it hadn't even fever game. I was doing very loudly with unbeknownst to me. Anyhow at a certain point. We're maybe two and a half episodes in here. My mother called out from the other room and asked Henry. Are you watching that? Awful joker moving again Kaz. His voice I realized was Getting close to Joaquin Phoenix jokers. That I can't I can't say I don't know how I feel bad that very things. I don't know what I'm feeling about that. So many things. It was a wakeup call. What I'm happy to see you. Cinema Quebec can. Henry's been missing it for now. I am much more of a polar spring guy okay. We'll one comes in. Plastic along comes in aluminum so that is too much. Yes and I don't know how to handle. I really wish I could have been live streaming it somehow now but those a record of it you do okay. I would listen to it but it seems like something that would happen on twitch. I don't really twitches but I feel like that makes sense. Yes sadly it is only known through storytelling. No no audio also. Sounds like a great Also Henry should be on Wilkie. You should be on next week. 'cause we're doing Hollywood Ryan Murphy. Anyway but I was gonna say it sounds like the brainstorm session for an F. A. H. Se's in like American. Horror Story is based around this laugh. I feel like you can't Guy Guy in here because I have nothing else to give to that because I can't watch the show because it's too scary as much as I've tried all right. Well I guess with all that said unless there's anything y'all Wanna mention we can just jump in. I mean I don't think much would top top your crazed hysteria had self moon to you. Thank you who would have thought. Oh I will say I can say one thing okay. It's a little thing it's a tidbit among welcome it. Yes mentioned that He. I sat him something in Lemail right. I did the same after a while. I think everyone here certainly knows but everyone may be. Who's ever listened knows that my present company excluded obviously hero. The person I'm obsessed with that obsessed in a weird way haven't seen I realized six years. Anybody any guesses my FAV- person a celebrity. Not just a personnel. I haven't seen the six years well like. I know that we have a relationship. There's a relationship there as A. Oh my favorite person Lescot Miss Guy. That's the guy you're on the right. You're on the right track. I like it Mr Bouhad check. Oh of course yes. I'm obsessed with him not just a great name anyway. I haven't I haven't talked to him since I graduate even though I've wanted to for a long time. Just because like weird you know it's like only by doesn't remember me even if it was you know that's not a problem resolves with time as anyway thank you So I was like you know what whatever everything's I might as well basically if you feel anxious constantly it's a great time to do your anxious about like normal so anyway so I wanted my ladder like way to you. Know really good. She Uh she all the staff Samuel thing ever. I sent a book and I was like I hope this is worthy of like a ten year. Old boy whatever and I was like it's creepy that I remember that like how old his kid would be in everything. Okay just don't references name even though you remember that too anyway. So I sent that there was a little bit of communication and I said the heart is full. This is so the reason I bring it out is because I truly didn't even think he would remember who I was and he in his response. Lanta some details. That made clear he knew. Why was he? Wasn't it wasn't just like you know whatever and the point is I think he's really helpful. It came at the perfect time which is funny because again. I've been literally trying to say something to him for like six years right and he came to the perfect time because the like anxiety sadness about the pandemic especially perhaps a notable for like teachers right now so. My point is with the story. If you have a teacher who meant a lot to you and did laugh or you're it's a good time to let them know and guess what the Internet is. So creepy took me five minutes to find his address. So yes no play. Was that you in that parking lot. One day Sh- Henry. Sorry I was thinking too I was like I haven't seen him in six years and I'm like didn't you see him in a parking lot. One time off it was passed. Did you not hear my story about anxiety just now my God? He's like my hero crazy. The and if that was you Mr Bugatchi for some reason listening to this. Your new haircut is aces. Now your new shoes to all right cool Henry and I have had a girl in one of our after school classes. Who had him has him? Yeah I guess has him as a teacher and I was like does he still get up on desks and she was like. Oh yeah and I was like and then she said did he wear those corduroy pants when you were there and said the staple in the community like you very much. You do an right. Yeah thanks Khloe Henry. I'm got to go to see Les Miz right before. Everyone knows yeah. We saw the very last one last. One Yeah Wild Crazy. Very sad but yeah. I'm glad that I got that moment with you. Yeah I left. Y'All to it. You're welcome. They really need to bond black Hokum for that all right well. Let's let's jump in showy. Let's get to our first review which is the Willoughby's which is on now and we do have a clip. Take a listen. This family's story is weird. It no way for the modern world and are fashioned home. I'll show you around tastic mouse on fashioned. I mean they go back a long Y. A family legacy of tradition invention creativity and courage greatness passed down like them magnificent facial hair from generation to generation to generation. This is Tim. His system. Nine giant CSX merits will hear you. I'm twin brothers. Both named Barnaby that creepy. Let Me John Wall. Because Jane we are Willoughby the Willoughby's as we said it is on net flex right now and it's directed by Kris Pearn corry Evans and one other rob loader Meyer and it stars will forte my root off Alexia or Cara. Kara Terry crews Martin Short yet. Jane Kutowski Ricky Jay as we love him for CASKEY AND THE SYNOPSIS IS CONVINCED. They'd be better off raising themselves. The willoughby children hatch a sneaky plan to send their selfish parents on vacation. The siblings embark on their own high flying adventure to find the true meaning of family. Dang they almost had a good one for the first time till the end there. Yeah well this one premiered. I think maybe a week and a half ago we could go something like that and number one trending yes sir and got pretty strong reviews across the board. What somehow what? How what it's in the high eighties on rotten tomatoes. Are you kidding me? Are we about to be the hot take of reviews movie? Yeah yes no spoilers. I mean obviously I'm spoiling. I felt that I could tell by woke. It's faith with us. Initially were well Henderson's you're the guest. Would you like to start us off? I need some towns. I did not like the cat narrator at all wanted them to be quiet. I hated how he kept saying how weird their story was and how range they were emily. Every time you say it just makes me. Angrier is like the girls are not like other girls. You know every time you say it was not a fan. I didn't like that at all. the only thing that I liked about this movie was the realtor that was like money money. That was that was funny but the rest of it was I wasn't I didn't connect I just. I wanted fast forward through the whole thing to finish it. Yeah way longer than I also couldn't figure out what the plot was supposed to be like. I could not tell you a single thing. I haven't read the story to the cherished tale In certain circles right didn't tell me that Henry. No I told myself that okay. I'm pretty sure based on like a beloved. I told me that no well. I'll find out you keep talking. Lookie I'll do some investigating pressure done before. Okay I'm still undecided on whether or not I liked the animation style because it seemed like it was trying to copy that Lake New addams family cartoon which I still haven't seen right like Just generally not a huge of like super-sleek animation make sense. Yum. I'm teen studio like For so yeah saw like this. Felt very like despicable measly million sort of vibe and I'm just not into it sure Although I did appreciate the mustaches those were cool but my way. I'm so sorry but we all know how that I'm don't but yeah you won't believe this. It's based on a lowest lowry book. Ooh really yeah. That's interesting Campbell. The I never heard of that one. I read all of a wall. I didn't obviously but shoe I meet meet them gathering blue I would meet the sequel to that I read. I read a lot of them but making it. That must have been after our time or something. I wasn't really popular on. Yeah true. True blue definitely didn't feel like her work. I was GONNA say I wonder if they messed with the tone of it because it also deals with. That was my biggest problem with it naturally. Because I'm you know me but my biggest problem was with. It was how they dealt with like they did not earn the right to use such serious issues as jokes and plot points and Which was like much funny about child neglect nor being orphaned et Cetera et Cetera. Candied bad for you. That's that's the last one. Yes so a lot about it rubbed the wrong way from the get-go but I that's what I'm wondering could it's not. It doesn't feel very lois lowry so I might just have to even read a little bit to investigate because now I know that the tone is just so different than the rest of her stuff. It would make more sense that that kind of Story line would be part of her work. That tends to people who don't know I guess She tends to do works Accessible to kids but take on like serious big existential. You know thoughts and pond zoos. And she's like the kid version of a Shirley That lady whose first name is Sheryl Lee lays name lady lottery. I don't know maybe maybe it's because they had like three directors or something. It was too many kirk kitchen. Then the state also didn't they they wrote the screenplay it's believe so yes used our our boy james as in the peach. They used his name in vain. Be So yes without changing. That does that deals with orphans and trauma and abuse. Yeah yes I agree. If you're gonNA talk about James Giant peach you you better earners earners. Yeah yes if you all we all put on. Willoughby's you need to turn it off and put on James Giant Peach s quench your thirst now with some lemon water not some soda right. Yes Wilson Pulo Splendor. And they're making lemonade but on the phone will. Khloe aside from all that. What else did you think of this one? Well okay so yes. I am Berry to a fault. I think particular about animation styles like agreeing with me and this this N it boss. I really didn't like it. All Fade it to me. It was very a and Henry. Wilkinson is an expert. He's like an illustrator and everything so he understands along everything else but to me an untrained eye relatively it came across like super one-dimensional like the enemy came on. Very flack which I don't like especially those bright colors like it really just sunk into each other like this movie reminded me of so many things which is also not so good like it gave me like the wreck. It Ralph Vibes without a personality. Maybe like yeah like like without the I will say it was like Ralph vibe which I haven't seen to be fair but I've seen the frigging trailers ten thousand gazillion times But without the world building I think is a big part of it. They went from location to location. There was not a world built to me like at all which I think is a flaw especially one. Apparently it's about adventuring. Yes like how like there was a lot the housing for yeah and if you're making the Ma movie you create your whole world. You shouldn't be telling me anything home quiet. So what's going on Cheshire cat moving along and we all know? I love the only I was kind of. I was kind of interested in it when just a little thing came out even though I really couldn't do the singing and I feel bad because it's a famous singer but got it got on my nerves but anyway but I thought it was supposed to be bad to be honest with you. I'm sure she's very good soon. Seems like a very good person but I thought it was supposed to be bad by the trailer because I'm saying but like no then she just keeps thinking like Oh dear Lord so where was I get caught up obe so basically it's just like so hollow and again. I just really resent when they like big little things off of good things and try to like you know what I like the like the this is gross now like if they like went around and collected gum off the sidewalk and then put it all together and I was like. Oh yeah gum now and then start doing it. It's not gonNA taste good tastes good. My par- was the only thing I thought I really thought I thought my Rudolph was very good. She the very good voice actress with me and also I knew it was her which is Kinda cool like. I don't think that's a bad thing for that kind of character in a voice acting. You know what I mean like I was like Oh my roth. Talking like joining up. She formed character but yeah insulation for Jane Kaczynski but I love and exactly we love her but yellows like it was like the like the dishwater version of series of unfortunate events like okay. You're gonNA tell us. These kids are super smart but not show evidence of that and then the weird like hair thing most F- y'All. We don't know what you mean like like pseudo magic which also doesn't work like either make a magical realism or leaving out. Y'All this is ridiculous. You can't see the whole reason magical. Realism works does is nobody notices. No one notices it half the time then the other time there. You're crazy. Why are you talking about painting? It's like this doesn't don't work. There was so much to it and they're just another characters had any relationship with each other somehow like it was just so hollow it also like it was going through the motions and then it was over. There's nothing really of substance. Even though they tried to like shoehorn substance intuit it. Yeah Your Foot Down. Fit STEPSISTER IT. Just don't yeah. It was not not my cup of coming up over and again. It's not funny to be orphaned. I don't know from experience but You know one can surmise that. That's not something a particularly with joking about sure because there are a lot of movies about kids who are orphaned or variations thereof because it's a very universal feeling fortunately it happens a lot but also it can feel that way through many circumstances. But it's always used in that as a starting point to to help kids you know. See this redemptive path of you know love and family different forms as opposed to some kids hating their parents and trying to kill them but like it calling themselves. Orphans is like no that like for some reason I have is where I have more problem with them calling themselves orphans than them trying to kill their parents. Is that weird? I don't know I wo- expert. That's tough one happen. You doesn't count. Yeah Yeah I feel like murder parent murderer should come before or did you say your neglected kids like I don't know it's just kind of which is really bad not funny which which. They didn't try to make that much. But there's just so much issue with it they also did a lot of it and I know it's a kids movie and stuff but also kids don't want to just be told things like the backstory with the nannies just like toward all of a sudden. It's like nobody wants to these stupid reveals kids movies like it doesn't work people can just be nice to be nice. You know what I mean. And also you shouldn't vilify really important under underfunded under appreciated segments of government especially when there are so many that are so got off will focus on one of those. Don't say that people running basically they were calling social services evil eye looking around like what. Yeah Yeah but anyway. Also the incredible little baby cute baby. You can't just do q baby and by yeah and then. The cute baby thing didn't really go anywhere. Yeah a lot of things in this movie. Didn't go anywhere. And they just kept adding more and more. What's the deal with the rainbow thing from the factory and look at either like I'm not stupid? I'm not dumb person I hadn't and I'm not a linear either like I can. I can get down with some abstract. We all you know. Yeah but this made I frigging love over the garden wall that I mean and this I couldn't get it with it for two. I'm not I'm not talking about. I'm not trying to poke plot holes in a kids movie obviously right but also it's not present is just a kids movie and not just because of the time. We're where everyone I were. A lot of. People are just watching things as a family and stuff but also like you know the ricky invasive the narrator talking about death and murder stuff like not presented as a kids movie per saying you know what I mean. Yeah well I'm now when it comes to kids movies I. I don't have an issue with digital animation or polished animation. I prefer stop motion but I've I've watched I've watched. The Whole Hotel Transylvania trilogy. Nobody asks Henry. Henry Loves Gentlemen. I don't but like nobody. Nobody asked me to watch that. I watched that on my own for some reason. And and addams family. Oh Yeah I did watch that. Then the theater yes sadly but anyways so going in. That wasn't really an issue for me. I had watched the trailer or anything but I saw the voice cast now pretty into it for sure but now we have reviewed three netflix original movies. These last few weeks right. If I'm not mistaken we did. What extraction what's the other one of donation before that or so four technically? What have we reviewed the week before? Oh coding unreal. I can't remember my. I remember one of my mill names at a time okay. I don't need this pressure. Cody I am really starting to lose faith in now. I know there are plenty of good netflix originals. But their most recent string any of these have been what will be of. No nation is one. That's about the only watchable movie. But hey it a masterpiece about your effing mouth was meant to last minute. They didn't do development to be fair. They swooped yeah. They eagled that Little Chihuahua. But I think even with those in that the most recent two in mind I think this is by far the worst of recent ones. I think it was pretty bad but didn't give it like you gave like an average rating though. Khloe you're like open. It has all this nice stuff going going bad but no I thought this was borderline watchable. It was so incoherent and frenzied. I could not as I said earlier. I could not tell you a single to thing happens in it it was I. I liked the Color Palette of the animation but I felt like after a while. It did all start to blend together and I agree. The whole narration thing was so overdone and pretty poorly written as well. Yeah because I can get with Mary I usually. I love that raiders. Thinking Ellis chanted over here. Give Me Eric idle. I'm here I of weird narration. But UH also come down to tell me not as not as spackle for bad lot also with I I liked my Rudolph but I did find. And maybe it's partly the animation or or how things are shot but I I felt like all of the voice performances really ran together. I never really got an identifiable feeling from any of them and some of that maybe due to the animation or at the performance. I don't know she was fairly good but still yet even she was. I couldn't really get much from her because of it which was really uninvolved. I don't know if it was like the mixing or the sound designer something but again it felt weird to me. Yeah exactly but I think after about ten minutes or not ten maybe fifteen. I really started to face out like I could not keep focus on this thing and again. I've seen plenty kids movies. Where even if they're not amazing? I can kind of keep focus but in this I could not for the life of me do it. So it was. Now it's it's it was that it was bad. I wanted to like it. Yeah I cannot believe that this is in the high eighties on rotten tomatoes. That pisses me off to be honest with you. Pisses me off. There's so many under appreciated kids movies get out of here. Yeah Oh my God. That was a weird version of my here come like I just wish they'd leaned into again. I'm not trying to Overdo the creepy and this year. But I wish they leaned into the well. It's not my fault. The premise of the movie is very counterintuitive. Or I should say. The style of the moves very counterintuitive to the plot. I didn't make them choose that Bizarro. Weird plot okay. If we're going to do it leaning let's get some Burton Act. Let's give them of corporate action in here. GimMe something like that. Some Games that you brought up James Giant Peach. So I know y'all know what it is. Why didn't we draw from where Joanna Lumley? All the giant peach we Juliana Lumley in here. Why was he momma com on you know? Can I interrupt for something completely unrelated? Okay so now I'm very much I'm sure it's spam but it's worth reading so I just got an email from Christina ed chick New York City runway. I'm going to read this email. It came it came to the film bud email and she says hello. It's me is when we came across your instagram page. And after showing it off to our runway fashion label and New York City. There were instantly instr- inch interested in working with you. They have over one hundred. Seventy eight thousand followers on instagram have been featured at New York fashion week alongside Michael Kors. Tommy Hilfiger Armani and more they would like to offer you a royal ambassadorship with their fashion label. Chic NYC runway. Would you have any interest? Yes say yes right now saying yes. I Would Christine. Let's see what happens. What they called Sheikh NYC runway kick nyc runway. Yes that's so funny. So anyways back to the Wilkie you down obviously she's speaking so but yeah I. It's just I have so little to say about it because I felt like none of it stuck with me at all as wanted it to be over the whole time especially I think because I watched it astor doctor. Parnassus like immediately after all right so disappointed. Yeah it just really lacks the creativity and imagination that that It it promises you know what I mean. It sucks attempted to achieve but felt very no honestly. I felt Super Lacey to me like it's not like they just used a bunch of snapchat filters like wait really did the freaking up the rainbow. I mean it's just so weird I don't understand that I'm just to be honest. I just don't understand how things like this get made. And like. I know I know I don't mean to. My intention is absolutely not to diminish animation and of course anything like that but there are. I feel like the could be worked out at least a bit easier since you're kind of creating your so if something's not working you don't have to like go back for reissue. To make sure everyone has the same facial hair and the same whatever like watch. It realized that it's bad and do something about it. Also is like so many good ideas for animations out there that don't get made and don't get picked up and then I'm like. How do we get this in like the emoji movie? And just like that. I don't trash okay. So upon further investigation this this instagram has two hundred thousand followers and a website. Now it's fake Henry. I'm just looking. I'm just looking I love. This says he didn't go into it. He's not this is actually hysterical. But anyhow that's very funny okay. I'm done sorry all right. Well Henry is GonNa be a star. You will be just not from that from that. Although I think both of you could be very good models thank you. Oh yeah absolutely all right well. It's company represents false items advertising but my complaint is that they send numerous emails from different names at freshman taken off their list. They're still they keep sending emails. You're not provide an opt out button. Customer Service numbers disconnect. That's that's too bad Chris. Angela is order. I ordered an item off site. Did Not ship it. They keep telling other people have filed complaints against them for skimming people just taking them No it's A. PSA there for everybody out there yet. Don't trust anyone on all right. Well anything else. Anything else about the Willoughby's. Yeah it has this much behind it as a chicken fashion winning. It's so sad all right. Well it's a one and a half for me barely. Okay okay. Well I'll show you say okay. Well what comes to mind is a water damaged penny ANA show like it was in. The milk is going so what I see. It's almost like a slight flood you know 'cause like underground like I have a room in my house. At the UNDERGRAD. It's not a though is like a room. And so you keep it there for preparation for your party and everything and it's one of the rainbow of you know donkey looking ones. And what is all you know like how you used to put coffee on your assignments if it was supposed to be from the revolutionary war. You coffee on old so it cut that deal gone out fringes in with oven so a crisp apple wrinkled. Exactly yes now. The colors are darkened by the. And guess what you're so prepared that you had candy in it but obviously the candy's gone mouldy too stale. Yeah Yeah and then you upset about it so you hold it up and you hit it with your hand just mad about it right right. They just just certain groups off. None of the candy comes out because it's all I can. Gio Together entering what about you? It's a one because it had my Rudolph and Dan cousy and have that going for it. I Don have people can go. Sometimes you like sometimes you can be like oh I can see like if they read the script like I could see why they would think it'd be good and then it got destroyed or whatever. There's no way this was ever good. There's no way suck. Yeah right well it ain't for me boss. No name for you either. Stick with the Hotel Transylvania so no. I know the username Pizza Gordon. Life even have a tattoo of it. It says James and the giant peach for life and attended a peach. Instead of I love mom. I love ones. I've loved that I love that and it worked for. Call me by your name to to all right well. Let's let's move on. Let's get to our Retro Review. Which is the imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus? And we do have a clip as well. Let's take a listen doctor? Parnassus me to deal with the devil. Stop mortality with a Price Child. Were there onto mysterious outsider. Can you put a price on your dreams? Take the trevy show beyond my Julie. Salisbury talked up hot safe. Okay the imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus was released in two thousand nine and is directed by Terry Gilliam and it stars. Christopher Plummer Heath Ledger Lily. Call Andrew Lear Johnny. Depp Law Calling Phero Shoot Verne troyer ways. Yes time we also did you see A water name Gwendolyn Christie's in it for is that she was in the audience. I never noticed that your favorite singers Paloma faith is in it. This movie's loan the base. So good and the synopsis is a travelling theatre. Company gives its audience much more than they were expecting Henry. Are you kidding me? That's it. That's the worst one yet being so much to be desired? If there wasn't so much wrong in the world right now my my soul mission would be to find the person who does the summaries or the synopses on IMDB and have a stern talking to. Yeah not that doesn't resolve it. Take it from there. You could still probably do that right now. Find the person and tell them maybe. Christine knows them. Anybody from Sheikh NYC runway a part of that team cab mice morning good so much worse like a couple months not worse. Pardon more involved in my life couple months. I don't know what happened to walk into a glass window or some. My mom did that. That's one of the time she broken where this and she's looking through an end. She was like looking to an antique shopping on my mom. Get with Shit. I smell some things I need and so on and then and then it was like in the one the levels or whatever you know how New York buildings are just one down and it was dusk and to put up and just right Max so hard into glass story has a good ending so then then eventually she found out. She broke her nose right. She snores loud and everything she said they said. Oh you broke your nose like how did you own? You might on that. And she's like Oh probably when I smacked it into a glass very a lot. Yeah but well no because then they were like well. You can fix if you want but like it smell like a big like. It's not like a necessary procedure. For a variety of reasons. She did not get it fixed so caused issues right. But you know right and then She was walking or running to catch the walk. Way Light or whatever and France and holy face like Eddie read main theory of everything like nose to the ground brutal brutal so scary like blood every day. Yeah why she went back to the doctor and they're like go you whacked it back into place. Classic only does Strauss luck. Yeah this is like my dad. My Dad drafted. Tv wants and he's like well. This sucks magazine. I can try this and then he just dropped it again and fixed it. So hey this is not visit. Don't drink disinfectant. Don't don't this is not advice. I'M GONNA GO TRUMP MY TV okay. But like they do say that used to like hit technology. One it's not working. He's like it'll knock things back in the place but they said that about kids to and now I don't I don't believe in so it's a discretionary thing don't remember why. Oh yeah but my mom's better now so that's perfect but anyway right now we've talked on the show a fair bit about the movie and I know your view of the movie now Henry. We haven't I don't know if we've ever talked about it home. Do you want to start us off? Shore Fireworks Yeah Okay. I haven't seen this movie since. Like twenty fourteen or fifteen. But it's still one of my favorites. I love it. It's so like dreamlike and we're but in a good way and like a little greedy but like not too much grit enough grit like I can take it but not that I'm like skin is crawling and it's just you know Terry Gilliam. I love that man. I love his work. This one and the brothers Grimm does my other favorite one that he did he. Just I want him to direct everything he needs to direct. The wicked movie rights on my goal is not going to happen but that'd be amazed perfect. I want him to direct like every moving musical that I love so like he would have done. The wind come on his cat. Perfect fairly good actually the thing about his films with like CGI. He never goes for like complete. Realism is always very stylized. Salat way exactly. It's not going to be dated. It's always have that like artistry to think works the idea so the cast perfect on weights is the devil so perfect. Oh my goodness They have a costume. That Lily. Cole where I love Lily Cole. She's so good. What else. What else has she been in? She's a model? She got discovered in a in her local town by a scout and she does angles so she. She's being scammed so hard. Yeah she's also she's but she's also in you know she's in. She's been in Dr Hill like she she makes around for sure. You are snowing. The huntsmen as a maid. Oh yeah okay. Yeah have the life who sucked out of her great luck shoe so you need beautiful like yeah. It's wonderful and totally under utilized. 'cause he's a great actor. Yeah she's thing as we like she has it. Jerez ma saying oh in one scene. She's wearing like a a two. That was designed by my favorite costume designer. Maria Bjornson for the Royal Ballet Sleeping beauty in nineteen ninety. Four minute somehow made its way into like costume warehouse rental love that makes sense with your vibe with the example. You all of the costumes. Stuff is like recycle than used from. Like you know other things and so it has. That Lake cobbled together. Feel which so-called different actually Henry. I'm glad you shared but I won't make a huge difference An organic yoga philosophy is you can't force you. Can't it takes what they say? It takes a lot of money to look this poor or something like that. I Dunno some advert. He definitely has an interest in the Baroque period. Like there's that kind of vibe everywhere not just in this Louis but many of his but also want to know what the mirror thing is because there's the mirror in this that they go through in this mirror in brothers Grimm. That's like a big thing like. I wonder what his deal is with the mirrors. Yeah might be a little bit of little bit of looked. Congrats might be a little thinner. Show self look. Oh yeah lots. I agree we'll call you. What about you saw a big fan big fan this is? This is my favorite Terry. Gilliam for sure I've seen so many times my My second is a bit of a hot take. But my second Baron Vaughn Moon Chausson for sure yes yes see. I was GONNA say earlier. That comparison between this embarrassed Munchausen is like is perfect. This is like I was. I think when I was watching the movie I was like. Why can't we review this embarrasement chosen instead of the Willoughby's neff time next? Then no one would listen. My Dad used to make me watch that movie when I when I made him pick me up from school because I was sick I said later I understood the subtle shade. They're saying that I was my just saying I was sick but I was. But you know we gave me like. Yeah but it's just so creative and When everything should be like it's like a and we all know Terry Gilliam especially. It's not always a slam dunk. He definitely swings and misses sometimes but at least he's going for like at least their original concept lead much rather see something you know that really truly shares part of another person's experience and imagination than a really really tight like perfect plot with like zero character just like release the sink but no substance right. Yeah like I. I'd rather stay like an AIRBNB. Then you know the four seasons really would really would never actually. I've never seen the I. I have stayed in the is it the Ritz Carlton which is the one shoot. Whatever the really fancy one in in New York City. Like super fancy super old and lots of like they. The one thing about there was they had lots of Like movie memorabilia in the lobby 'cause they filmed a law stuff there but no joke the the bellhop I guess. Because they're they maintain their classic like twenties but also you know elegance whatever but he's like Oh when he walked into a room and stuff and we're like An straight up we gotTA haunted room. I'm not playing so that Kinda liked except that you would hear like well no joke again. I'm like I don't come out the way but I really am skeptical like my heart is with it but my brain is a I got a fatal brain is heavy. It's like no girl. No this is possible. We heard children's deaf again. I swear to God and also the elevators were crazy into so's right next to the elevator. The delicate mission case. I prefer that but overall I prefer an airbnb to a fancy hotel. I really got away from my point there but it's all good. Gilliam's haunted mansion. He just it's just again he's not. He seldom perfect but like he can strike gold. And even when he doesn't he'll kind of ignite something in you because that's the other thing about his death not being perfect like. I also adore appreciate the fact that for instance Kenneth Branagh Cinderella exist right perfect and beautiful and gorgeous but I think it's best in world war movies like doctor. Parnassus also exist. Not so much. They're like very accessible like they're kind of you know what I mean. There's a time and place for both we love we love and I love that it's gritty and like real and killed with all the stuff all his movies deal with beautiful. Yeah and the fact that his movies deal with just like these big timeless existential questions really make sense with his style but also they kind of Forgive any plot holes. That may occur because there just aren't always answers you know what I mean and there really aren't plot holes on some stuff isn't going to split the latest that aren't explored. Yeah you can definitely follow the story all the stuff you can at least follow the story. Yeah now I think the only other Terry Gilliam movie we've talked about on here is the man's head. Yeah last year I agree with what you said Khloe about. I think the ambition is always there even if he definitely has some lesser works. But there's always something to latch onto. I think yeah and it's not for the sake of ambition which is important. Yeah Yeah for sure. He's no David Cameron okay. James Cameron's Ryan's David Cameron out there. I didn't mean to call you out but cameron the old PM. I can't keep up. Yeah David Cameron was the guy who did the thing with the pig also conservative that we don't like him anymore. Okay I can't remember. Yeah can't remember when I first saw this but I did just rewatch it earlier today and it is. It's pretty plot less. It's not really in a bad way. I Pol it's it's I mean I it jumps around pretty. I mean there. There's an overarching plot there. But it's the narrative itself is pretty fractured out saying goes in and out. Yeah and I I really enjoy the the design and the execution of the the travelling theatre just the look of it and like I like when they're towards the beginning Riding through the city and Andrew Garfield and Lily Cole. Tag Band Garfield. That's one thing. I don't really like him in this. This we've talked about this before Henry because we're on different sides. This is basically the only time I I'm obsessed with this movie. Okay opposite to okay. I'm kind of the opposite. I like him in most other things. But Not really. I don't think he's terrible but I wish he stuck to this kind of thing. Sure yeah sort of like plucky. Yeah in Oh yeah. I'll tell you what I don't like I'm not a fan of Heath Ledgers You know swindler with a secret character. I hate those characters. I hate on fair. Do you hate the character is being used in staff joining? I hate the pictures being used in stock area cash. I'm just not into secret. Holders that are like you know trusted and then like lose trust from people and like it doesn't sit well with me now. I guess the big thing with this movie. So this was his last performance because he died Midway through the production and then they because they had I guess they had shot the majority of his world scenes. But then they got Johnny Depp Colin Farrell and Jude Law to be the Imaginarium version which this is probably. The only movie ever could get away with doing that. Were makes sense and is tragic as the situation may be kind of works in the movies favored because it adds a whole element of surrealism. That might not be there otherwise well and it really it speaks I think a little bit not to dismiss or undermine the truth of the situation very painful but in terms of movie it really speaks to the power of media art of any kind within imagination so impassioned behind them because they can take a life of their own and they really make meaning through things so when you put a lot into it you'll get stuff it'll be there for you too so like with Heath Ledger only being able to. They filmed all the they did. All the green screen stuff later so him other than going into the portal. I guess and you know being the different people at different times. They made it work but also at fit perfectly with the themes of the movie. Because those are there you can't pull things out of thin air. So should they had the amplified what they had to do out of necessity and you know like it was dealing with like the artifice and identity self. And how DOT CA manifest? I think Andrew Garfield even said like he has two faces or something like that. Yeah so like I. I think that was really clever because it does show that like even inside ourselves we have these leg different codes that will switch between that our selves but are also sort of different depending on different situations that were in it works especially the way it was presented or again we don't know how much shifted around and stuff but In any case it works again. I'm going to be like college essay about it but like it works because the first time he switches faces it's because he looks how some lady want him to look news. Like whoa like my face is different. And then when that his imagination and he's like his ideal cell and so that's why he looks different which is also really interesting. And you know so on and so forth but it's just but then you can't get rid of your. I mean is so smart so so clever you know Thomas he said but yeah and I do really like Heath Ledger. Watching this again made me. We got it review a Knight's tale love and we gotta do it Annan. Anyways I did already make you do risk gutters. We did do that. Shoot in that one. Wilkie Tom Waits is an angel well that's right. He can be an angel he could be the devil. He works greatest both. Yeah I could see that you know what I need next. Tom Waits as fairy godmother entity. That is yes. Henry Okay yes BILLINGHAM's Cinderella obsessed. Wow but with but with heath ledger his. I like his performance with what's there. I think that there is a sadness there in his character. And how much of that is true? Or how much of that is just the performance? I I don't know but I think that there's a layer to that character that I think really works because of him and he nevertheless I think my favorite part of the movie is Jude Law. Oh Yeah my I feel bad about it but yeah okay metoo. He's my L. July by fires. Yes I think my favorite sequence in the whole film is when he's on stilts. Yep Yeah and the emotion there especially towards the end of his sequence is more of the the most heartfelt of the movie at least for me otherwise. I don't really have many issues with that again. I don't love Andrew Garfield in this but I again finally thinks he's terrible. Everyone else is is quite good. And the design is you touched on Henry. Like the very interesting mishmash of different eras and styles. And that's one thing Terry. Gilliam does very well and one thing to go to film school here all film essay as you like to put it or college essays slowly now his style. He's one of those people that you can watch just a few minutes of his work and realize it's him at most of the time and one thing fair with me is the use of rectilinear lenses. It's similar to a fish islands. Not rectilinear me right. That Lake quite sort of weird perspective. Yeah which is similar to the fish island or instead of looking very noticeably curved all the the edges that would normally look curved like a wall or something within the frame is straightened and so. That's why everything looked so slightly abnormal but He's got a really. It's similar to how terrence malick shoots. Who USES I? Guess the fish I but it's pretty iconic with Terry Gilliam. Their you know. Long Island Fish Islands are whatever anyways. Yeah he's great he's a king and he's so he's not like. I said I also just liked that. He's not like a. Lotta also a lot of my favorite directors or filmmakers are like perfectionists like cary Fukunaga Greta Gerwig. Whatever so I like that he's you know Nutso. Yeah yeah start on Monty Python. How would you like them? You know and I Love Them. Little dogs at Of Come on. Here's he's looking at the window. Nineteen Eighty get so much as movie. Go also one part in terms of the landscape. I love the UH when they're sitting on the cliffside and Christopher plummer throws the card down I love that just the look of that the colors and it's that Terry Gilliam imagination that is like everywhere in this movie and again not. It doesn't always work all the time but you can see that artistry they're in every frame and when it works it works it works. Yes exactly. Yeah it's just beautiful but yeah I do. Law was definitely my favorite part as well. Not just clear loved you law but you know I. I think he's very good absent totally. If you WanNa hear something please interesting. It's not and I don't mean to. Gospel bows sad the unfortunate occurrences but Well first of all here are started this all Jude Law Dry deb and confidential there. what are you when you make money? I've never done it so I don't yeah they all they all put it into a little fund for his daughter which is very sweet. Yeah I know. But that's basically why they were all friends with but my day okay. So apparently Johnny Depp was the first one to film his par and he and he was like. Oh can I add lip? Something and care. You almost like sure thing. Like he was like try. Something I think would fit well here. It's like yeah go for it and it was. Don't shoot the Messenger. Which Apparently Heath Ledger to had improvised The same same scene a well. That's pretty weird. Yeah let's say. Yeah but that's kind of cool now also goes with them cool. Does what the field? Yeah for sure threads tweet tweet tweet and I like that as movies really do the it's like A. We're care gallons movies or like a weird really. I think good form of satire. Where they're not they're not like total opposite of the situat- you know they're not like making hill or funny like it's not like what's your I also. I'm here for Mel Brooks. But it's like this kind of But this is different kind of vibe. I think in part I don't know how to say this well but like it it gets you in the place knows you know like the movie comes with a common ground about how the world's Kinda screwed screwed up and then it kind of talks you from there so it's not like trying to teach you anything I mean. It's almost give you a little bit of a little bit a little bit to help by showing you that the badness you know what I mean. Y'All WANNA mention. I didn't mind the interesting Henry really no I just. I don't know I mean I like him in this because he's a bad dude like takes the last week Henry and I were talking about The white savior deal were like the Prince Rides on the horse and fixes everything and this obviously turned on Ted and I'm like upset. Okay I could say I don't like that. He is in redeemed at the end. 'cause like I think what makes me even more upset is when there's like the trickster amendments like a redemptive arc and. I hate that annoys me. I think even more so I guess the fact that he stays Aligarh the whole time and then deaf. I'm fine with that. I don't know I also like a wild card even for best laid plans but even like the fates like good and evil. Don't have complete control which I think is kind of which is a big part of this film. It's like control and bedding with yes eight and stuff like that so yeah I could get behind it. I thing yeah all right. Well let's make Henry B. A. B. him for Halloween. Who me or you can be. A Henry Will Be Heath Ledger Henry Wilkie Oh Yeah Sorry Ferte Ledger. We'll see you can be lily. Cole I will be mind crapshoot I could be. Christopher plummer. I honest could be in my use with the little wings. I Love Andrew. Coffey Oh my God the gold look. Okay Silver Yes yes I yes I love it or Tomlin's. It's almost like the little mustache drawn on. Comm you'll be touched. My pace is so it might go skew very quickly. Don't touch your face everybody or it will out of five four and a half for me. It's like it's like stumbling upon on a little fair by accident like after after dinner strolling and like a town. You don't know or like in France and then it's like drizzle drizzling. A little bit like the weather's unpleasant but you're still like loving every second of it. Sure Henry five five out of five are so good. Come on this movie. I need to rewatch it more often. I don't own it I need to own it. I know we gotta get gotTa get you there. I know I'M GONNA probably go buy it after this but so good all right. Well no as I said at the top of the show we do have some news but it is a listener question about it so I think would escape unless there's anything else y'all any news y'all WANNA mentioned before we skip it. Let's let's get to link all right. Well the film buds podcast at gmail.com is where you can reach us. Set also on facebook twitter at film buds on Instagram and it has just like Christina. Did follow in her footsteps. Well we'd love to hear from anybody if you're a new listener or if you've been listening for a while and if you did catch one of our most recent episodes we have done some corentin entertainment stories and choices and so if you have anything that you've been watching please we'd love to hear from you. Whatever it is you have to say. We have it favorite. Yeah especially if you're knew maybe through the press story or something. Please send us a question or comment or whatever. Yeah Yeah but step Diana Diana Oh shit say we go with a video film buds video podcast if for people who don't now so I saw the thing on instagram about it pretty cool. This week is from your listener. Feel your listener. Theo my listeners. He says he says hi film. Buds says your as an like. I'm your listener. Thelma's listener mine has taken. He says he says hi. Ho. Somebody'S AFTER. I am a listener named Phil. I'm loving this says. I hope you're taking care of yourselves you to thank you you too now. Onto THE QUESTION. Yeah shaded business. Yeah I'm guessing I'm guessing you saw the recent article about AMC theaters banning all universal movies from now on. Do you think this was wise overreacting. Your show brings me comfort on quarantine dates. Will you bring me? Come thank you so I love that name which is part of it. So it's like one of my defense sure next next Henry. Obviously of course significant yes so now to catch people up the recent movie trolls world tour just a massive hit hidden. Dolla. Yes start by saying it was released. I think entirely on the of the because the Corentin hit and what made them in the first week or two. They've made so much. They did the corona they in zoom. Hello meeting about it and figured out what to do or talking about the budget or something like that too crazy by they through the Hollywood reporter at says That it racked up an estimated one hundred million in its first three weeks in North America. Just yes I'm losing my mind over here and Universal produced it. They came out and said and I quote here. The results for trolls world tour have exceeded our expectation and demonstrated the viability of video on demand and he went on to say as soon as theaters reopen. We expect to release movies on both formats. Oh and then. Amc theaters which is yeah. Which is the biggest theater company in the US? Right now They responded by saying yeah. It is disappointing to us. But Jeff's comments as to universal's unilateral actions and intentions have left us with no choice therefore effectively immediately. Amc will no longer play any universal movies in any of our theaters in the United States. Europe or the Middle East. Dat Is Bananas. I'm they asked for an open. Relationship Am see studio said absolutely not. I thought we were GONNA get married tomorrow. We're done universal. Said it may be but I'm still trying to live my life and AMC talk to their mom and they had to lay down the law. They didn't ultimatum so I don't know where we are on. This is the ultimatum. And they might backtrack if universal changes. Its mind but it's hard to say but until it's this her stupor time to make that a release that statement. Why would you number one? Nothing not much is happening. So it's a stupid thing to to announce especially and maybe 'cause I'm not a business person. Wait stupid on whose part universal okay and may be struggling to release the movie right now or stupid for. Amc To say that they're not gonNA show universal movies anymore. It's stupid for universal to say that this is how they're moving forward permanently Luca to do the dual platform. Because the heck also you made that in in a because you could say like I said do you Henry. Awhile ago cutting out the middleman. We're talking about how they're charging way too much to rent movies. I said Yeah. Plus they're cutting out the middleman theaters and everything right. But they so they could have that in their mind but also they have literally a captive audience so people are definitely watching renting movies Way More than they would ordinarily especially kids movies. Says they need a break. The willoughby's yeah Willoughby's mandate of and I will say my kid not my kids. The kids the preschool. They love them some trolls. None of them can tell me anything about it. Except that there's some death somebody dies out one little thing. I hope it's okay for me to speak on his behalf. Jacob Bower's or Jacob Number one was a fan of this movie. He commented on one of my articles on facebook. So he's he's a fan. We Love Jacob Number One dumb. You can love somebody not always like them. I'm just getting I've never seen either but it's just not for me is now my type deal as far as movie already know that but. I don't like singing. I don't I'm sorry we're not. I'm I don't like you know. I don't want gummy bears as Maya Maya protagonists of not here for that. But just it's just I just don't understand the the point in this. Maybe they see how much youtubers make off with their. There are videos about about the tea and they're trying to get it on they're trying to really go to all platforms and Jeff. Apparently his name is jeff from Universal Video Youtube too. I don't see any logic in like there must be some right Asia. Yeah I think it was also a very illogical decision to make especially right now. Maybe if theaters were all open. That's one thing maybe but down. Dang you're essentially just saying screw you. Emc Lie and so I don't fault amphitheatres man that the man for doing that. I think it was the right. The right move it was. You're not overreacting. No don't let anyone gets into thinking you don't deserve the world. Amc You made the right call. This is mostly a joke about MC deserving the world. Everyone knows now yesterday was made anytime definitely on that train workers right. But that's still crazy making those kind of broad strokes crazy now. Since if this does remain in effect there will be massive Kubis. Timberline that's what I'm yeah fair. Yeah timberline cinemas lose money than maybe the smaller independent cinemas can fill that void. And that's what I want is at the Chelsea theaters you know. Oh yeah they. They love movies like trolls to for sure. Yeah yeah now. This does put into question. There will be massive if anyone's wondering Chelsea plays movies like it'll be like two hours somebody milking a goat and it's supposed to tell you what we saw include just for kind. There will be movie like massive movies like the fast and furious films. That could be released purely through. I guess not. I guess there's like Regal and other theaters but the could be having a massive cut of theater showings which will be interesting to see how that affects both sides. I don't think there's obviously those movies are massive and are going to make a ton of money for or what theoretically make money for both sides but maybe not as much anymore. So it'll be interesting to see. I don't think it's going to stay on. Yeah I think Jeff this GONNA have time to explore an East GonNa say wow how I wanted this open lifestyle but my relationship with. Amc is really what gave me a drive by Dr. I mean money And then they're gonNA come back together and Live lifelike. A freaking Was a movie revolutionary road. Yeah now just. In the scenario that it does remain in effect. Do you think that like fast and furious? For example do think that will still make a ton of money on the OD. If that was how it was released do you think it would? It would have a big hit financially. Oh Hey as in bad hit a bad financial hit. I don't think so. Are they charging the same amount? How much liquor to rent stream it than it is to buy a movie ticket sales because because of the movies that have been released in like the in-theatre rental or whatever it's been charging twenty dollars for rental which is like talking about as opposed to like. Yeah fourteen dollars for one person if you're going to go to the actual theater exactly so it will be interesting to see just in in the scenario that like fast and furious comes out on Vod. I'm sure there would be still be plenty of people who would probably pay the twenty dollars for that even if it's just them so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out for sure. It's definitely a bigger risk for them because movie theaters make most of their money off of concessions on the like anyway. Yeah the movie showing mostly making up. What what it costs to get the movie now from the Law of the time. Yeah I would think so. I don't know but I just I feel like wants to go out in the movie. Theaters are opening up again and people are going to be really wary about going to see a movie you know. I. I don't think it's going to snap back immediately so I could understand the money. In the interim yeah. I don't think it'll last that long though just by human behavior as we've seen I don't think I don't think people will recoil as long as A. Maybe you and I will be in our houses. Ten years after will say on the ten year anniversary will finally go how classes and we're GONNA have kids named Corona cove it and. Oh my God love it so Shaalan disowns love. It wasn't going to shoot. I don't remember anyhow. Thank you for that very good question. I don't know I was going to be going to say it's still was a really crappy move to do like we plan to release it and both formats because there's no. There's nothing good that can come from that common. So do absolutely especially right now enough on their plate. Exactly Bang. They just wanted to start all right. I'm Gonna a disaster yet better. Delete Twitter Demi Levato love all right well again. The film podcast. I think you've got it. Welke the film buds podcast that you mail dot com is where you can reach us at. I guess we can enough with their picks of the week Henry You've you've been away the longest you want to catch up on your corn team entertainment of. Hey well I re watched the entirety of the office. Wow love you know My mom and I have been rewatching site together. So much Let's see I'm in the mood for a lot of Terry Gilliam. Now after watching Doctor Parnassus like watch all of his stuff. I've also been watching a lot of theater recordings because I miss going to plays musicals and stuff i. I wish that I could do that. Any any big ones. That's down so on Youtube. They've been doing this weekly fundraiser. Called the show must go on and on. Yeah so we've been watching as a family all of the Andrew Lloyd Webber Sof so that's been fun and then in turn I'm like okay. I want to go watch you know Phantom with Sarah Brightman or something searching the googles for bootlegs very always very legal so yeah. That's what's been going on for me son. Khloe what about you I? I CAN'T KEEP UP FINISH VALLEY. We just got no. We didn't talk. Everyone's no good go ahead. So last we spoke I was in the middle of the east and I was like I don't know about this. I am by that compared to the other seasons. However I'm a Hun- no three percent of fan of the finale. Okay so don't get it twisted they ended. I won't perfect ending Parfait perfect ending sweet. We went back to route really very sweet. I finished watching all the middle ditch and Schwartz things. Which is a you know. Nice segue there naturally. All very funny I oh I've been waiting for my boy Lenny Abrahamson to come back around and I struck again. Yes if he has I I've I've been anxiously awaiting his show that I knew about for a little while called normal people. It doesn't not a thing disappoint. Y'All better get right on and it's the Song Hulu Okay my favorite of the streaming services I as from Utah. But that doesn't really can't though or does it. I don't know but I don't pay for that so guess not Boston. Thank you YouTube. Okay but anyway yeah I love it. It's Komo people. It's just for small. It's so well-made. The acting is really good. It's just so hard he is so rich and so just so beautiful in every way like. I can't say enough and it's so like real like so visceral and poignant and it makes all that but not again not like. It's not trying too hard but it's so visceral like come through. What's this about me belly? Feelings gives me all kinds of about It's basically like a love story but you know like you just gotTa Watch it. It's very. It's very lenny accounting. I'll put it that way and it's not extra it really is is truly just gently beautiful really. Yeah now in terms of his recent works where. We're so frank is your is this better than room or I stab me like him. More than room. Everything he does is well made. But this is definitely. This is my favorite of anything. I've seen his it even even tops. Tops might dude frank. I know I know one too many hot tubs but anyway no I. It's just it's just beauty. Beauty is seriously. Don't underestimate it. Also this is a little bit of a you know next week That kind of thing. I've already watched all of Hollywood. Have you? Yeah you're a Murph your Murph. Yeah I'm a SMIRK that makes sense. I might much are watching it tonight. I watched all of it. Okay but maybe let. Let's hold our thoughts Henry. I'm just just hard to do okay because I've been hearing very mixed things. I'm very curious about it. Very Mixed Wilkie given given a poke on my to watch list so. I'm curious you know you think Youth Academy but thank you curious to know what you both think. Yes I agree. I could've been hate watching it. You know so you don't know what I think. Don't don't act like you know me all right. Well I only have one or two things. I watched Jack reacher on TV last night. Tom Cruise crime drama from a few years ago. Is that the WHO? Who's the row rows Rosamund? Pike Rosamund. Pike Yeah I like her. Yeah and this is based on the book series. The Jack reacher book series. Who's a former renowned military police officer? But he's now gone rogue and he's like this drifter and just goes around dealing out justice whenever needed John Kinski yes. Is that the same or my wrong. No that's that's Jack Ryan crap say. Those are quite similar names to be there but Jack reacher is just. He's very much off the grid. What's up now? Who's Chris Pine in this Jack Ryan? We've already said Chris Chris Pine and Jonker since the same character nightly but Gotcha. Yes but Jack. Reacher is unrelated. Okay tonight you WANNA see. She's in the on kind Chris. Pine Shadow Recruit Jack Ryan Movie Anita Diet. But anyways it's very much just a what's up something else I watch but you go ahead okay. I haven't read the book series but I've heard pretty good things and the the movie is very much. Just a pulpy fund crime thriller and it's overall it's pretty solid. It has a pretty fun tone to it. It's done by Christopher Mkhori who did the most recent to mission impossible's out three. I think west to was gonNA say no occasionally. There are some logic issues but with this kind of movie. It's you can kind of look over it anytime. There's chase sequences. It's fantastic. Because of course. Tom Cruise does his own stunts. All of that is great. So if you can if you enjoy fund pulpy crime movies check this out do not watch the sequel though horrible like that is the Willoughby's love the crime. The crime world will flash the watch watch this equal first so then the the first ones double good sure and then lastly I watched maps to the stars. The loved it. I didn't love it done by David. Cronenberg who? I don't think we've really talked about much on the show. Before he he be he he'd be gene. His movies are very strange and this one is no exception. It's essentially taking if you imagine what the worst parts of Hollywood would be and I guess the most tragic parts as well and kind of divvied them up into various characters. Yeah that's kind of what the movie represents and is commenting on a has Robert Pattinson as you said being a cow Ska Julian Liam or John Cusak who plays another super creep. Like if he did it like John. Cusak before you're not gonna like him in this and I don't like him but Julianne Moore is incredibly as a person. Yeah but he's very blank weepy people. Yeah but this movie similar to I think terrence malick. He's become more and more narrative less in his movies and not so much like terrence malick. But I feel like he's become more and more UN- involving like I feel like I'm just kind of watching his movies from a distance but the movie was still fairly. He's got a very interesting style and it was compelling that you don't really know what's going to come next because it's also weird so overall. I liked it. It's still very much a lesser work from him. It was. It's worth seeing for Julianne Moore. It was very there was like a time or that kind of vibe super ends like right if I'm wrong but personal shopper. And like yeah a lot of those were around the same kind of yeah they have the same kind of like Lenin in the wind kind alike. Light COMING THROUGH. But like yeah. Yeah Yeah. It's definitely not for everybody. It's very weird and Berry strange but hey it's on Netflix. Give the polk. If you want something different feeding it with Cosmopoulos you're welcome. I maps to the stars is not a masterpiece. But it's definitely better than Cosmopoulos. Yeah for sure. Like cut. Cosmopoulos is way below this. Gavitt frigging awared. Yeah which is good. Yeah well. That's Amelia creepy right now. Because the lighting is sorry. Oh you're okay real Kronenbourg over basically a get the other thing. I forgot please. I watched all of black AF. Oh Yeah yeah all quite a fan. Big Fan love Jones. There's lots of really good commentary. I really like it. I really like it. You know it's a satire. It's about like he plays a version of himself and he like I think it's really I genuinely appreciate it very very much. It's really it's really good at tells the a lot of important stories with again. It's like funniest not like too in your face like it gets on my nerves. Sometimes like he's kind of Antisemitic Woman but Parvez characters so I duNno. It's kind of a gray area but it's not over the top but like I duNno. It's kind of bothered me but other than that. It's really good. But no he's supposed to be fair for context he's he's playing like probably the worst version of himself in a lot of ways. It's like it's like give curb. Your enthusiasm was about a race relations. End a class class issues. And who are we talking about Kenya? Barris he did Black ISH and Greenwich Okay Dodger. And so this one takes a different turn this one is filmed like it is filmed document. You know it's like a mockumentary but it's one of his daughters is making it for like her admission project for Film School Which kind of speaks to? How cool is it dismisses? The ideas that like millennials are like the younger generation are just one everything like you know like silver spoon and like you know Arno Waren was like materialistic. And Stuff Edna really interesting way so yeah I really appreciate it and Antisemitic my bills strong. But there's some Jewish tropes they get on my nerves woman but it's like it fits if you know so I don't know how well it plays generally but that could be said with the whole show as well because he's he's a hot mess the character so but on purpose so you know but you know he calls his. He called someone to set at one point. He wants to sell his chain and he calls them and he said Shalom like it's just kind of that. I don't love that. Don't love that as we discussed. Henry I also watch. Never have I ever. The Mindy caling show on. Netflix was not my favorite lot. Yeah but wait worse. 'cause it's one had no awareness a lot of Jewish trump's I did not like four jokes like they weren't for jokes and black eye black AF particularly like the whole show satire. So there's a little bit of a but really it wasn't a yeah but never have I ever a little bit I described it as because there are also a lot of like Indian culture. I Guess East Asian tropes stuff. Which is you know. It's based on her childhood and stuff so but it's a little bit like I described them in Seinfeld when the dentists converted to Judaism so we can make jokes like indicating always talked about how much she like. Love Jews and stuff like that and it's a little bit like especially coming from someone. I've always like looked up to a lot of stuff. I've been like you see me but I'm like just because you like Jewish men does not. It doesn't doesn't quite a translator. Yeah Yeah I mean I have actually have a lot of issues with that show as much as I appreciate all. She's done with me throughout my hair done for me throughout my youth. And she's it's a no go for me. And also the protagonist is really irritating which I guess could fit for some like what I say to you before Henry. It's like I myself to. My knowledge did not go through like I know I. I know I didn't go through particularly angsty period which I'm grateful also like I was never like boy crazy. Like bad to my friends and like that kind of stuff would is like trope being very common in teen staff and she like she loves like the MEG Ryan Movies and stuff. So she kind of updated that to make them more Real quote unquote. But it don't it doesn't quite. It doesn't quite work this work. Yeah all right. No I mean that's and the girl is the actual age like she's like seventeen. She's fifteen but she's seventeen which is quite close like. I'm fine with that but then like one of the dudes is twenty which is like border. Whatever kind of when you're trying to be real. Also her friends look old but then like cute dude like like oh like that dude. You know is The no adjustment nail if you will sure for context is A. He's twenty eight in real life and it's like Oh gang. Yeah yeah which is a thing which is like kind of could work if you like. I said like a self awareness like a pen fifteen like this version of how it always is kind of deal but there was not really the acknowledgement role as it is. Yeah so basically. I had a lot of problems with it so I'm sorry I wish I didn't. I wish I wish I didn't. I wish there weren't yeah. Yeah all right well I guess that about. Does it show no next week next week? I guess we've already kind of agreed. We're GONNA be doing the new Ryan Murphy Net flicks series Hollywood and then a retro review of all about Eve from nineteen fifty with. This is accessible that I I have tests we'll figure it out I don't think it's on any streaming platforms. Maybe we should get something asshole for your out. Okay but so so more than likely a retro review of a classic movie so keep a keep an eye out for that since we're podcast sure don't forget about and again. I'll put it in the show notes. Check out our little press pieces. We had very flattered to have that. Well Henry thanks for coming on earth and welcome anytime you so please come back soon. Please come back soon. Please clues heavy back soon. The KHLOE. Yeah Yeah Khloe. It's also great to see you as well. Yeah it's good. It's okay might can't help everyone. I Love I love all the Henry's I love I love you. All just like frank from frank exactly you and we hope everyone out there distinct safe and if you can stay home if not be safe and thank you. Yeah and thank you and I'm sorry. Yeah all right well. We hope you enjoy the show. Thousand Four hundred ninety eight as much as we did. And I'll see you next time

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The Alliance with Phil Shea

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59:28 min | 1 year ago

The Alliance with Phil Shea

"Incoming November I on Apple. TV plus Soviet cosmonaut has become the first set foot. We may have lost the MON but we can still win the race turn from the executive producer of battle star Galactica and outlander wants us to put a woman on a mom on me for all mankind on Apple. TV plus opened the apple TV up to start watching now subscription required. I'm Jennifer Fisher. I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friend and now we're doing the ultimate Senate Office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories. That only two people who were there can tell you where the office ladies. Hey everyone it's Jenna Fischer Hi. I'm Angela Kinsey. We have a great episode. It's the alliance. It's so so good I was tickled. Can I tell you I was tickled watching this same and I made my note cards do not. I'm real excited about it. There are so many inside jokes. Talk from this episode for the Office Gang. We will get to that Angela. I'm sorry I think we have no time for Chit Chat the morning. We have no time. No we have no time as episode. It is too good. There is too much to talk about but I love Chitchat. I know what you're going to have to save it will. I have really good day to here for the ladies out there listening. I gotta blow dry last last night and this is what I said we have time for. This is literally what I just said. Don't tell you how great my hair looks today and I didn't even brush it. I mean the back of. It's a hot mess. Let's let's but you know that's kind of my go-to you are so proud of your hair that you had to get it in there. Even though I said we get to hear Dang fast fat all right. The alliance reliance season one episode four listening. This is written by Mike. Sure and directed by Brian Gordon. Little bit of Trivia. Mike sure plays Mos on our show he does. He plays Mos- not yet but not yet and he's also just insanely talented. I mean you know. Look he's writing everywhere he's everywhere. Yeah yeah he produces a million amazing television. If you're watching television show and you love it. Mike sure problem probably doing it. Yes so I'M GOING TO START WITH A synopsis on this episode Assode. We usually start with our fast facts. Oh my God what are you going rogue going with refusing to allow any CHITCHAT. I'm starting with us in a black lectured with a black hoodie. You've got hands what's happening. Are you taking kick boxing class or something you know. I took my kickboxing yesterday. I know I know you're feeling we're out off. I know you're very tough. Okay All Right Synopsis. So this episode has two basic story lines one in an attempt to raise morale Michael insist on throwing a birthday party even though it's no one's birthday no one's birthday the closest birthday meredith. So he next month but he insists on throwing her birthday party and then at the same time. Jim and Dwight form an alliance. Dwight is worried about the rumored downsizing housing and so he goes to Jim and suggests they form an alliance and this is like Candy for gym. He's like Oh my God yes. Oh my God this is such a great opportunity to mess with Dwight. Both of these teams are because people are afraid. That the offices being downsized this is a big theme of the first season of the office. And so Michael thinks the answer is to throw a party. Hardy and Dwight thinks the answer is to form alliance and spy on his CO workers. Yes you know. It's not meredith's birthday right but no force this party but it is Ryan the tips. Yes that's not the end of the other reveal at the end okay. I didn't mean to jump ahead okay. That's all right. Well I'm going to give a little fast fact so fast FACS ax for anyone. WHO's noodle listening? These are just a few fun facts about an episode that are overreaching. They apply to the whole episode. Rather than just once the and for those of you just tuning in Jenner came up with the idea of fast fact. That's right on. She really loves it. And I call her keeper of the notes and we're of the notes keeper of the records. She loves a little yeah. She loves a list. Anyone who has been listening regularly knows these two things. Oh Genesis cut some is it me I'm telling you the lady is Sassy today and now we also know you have good hair today. Okay the First Fast Act is that this episode was inspired by the the television show survivor. Yes yes the writing staff watched a bunch of episodes of survivor and they did this so that they could properly satirize the way people talk talk about alliances and this idea of you know ganging up against other people and also though you have to mention that our cameraman Randall. Einhorn sewn. Their background was survivor. Yes they were camera operators on survivor. which for me as a huge survivor? A huge survivor fan on you guys. Jeff Popes officiated. My wedding. Now this is something that true. Now here's the thing if you know Jonah and she's like from Saint Louis Louis Yeah Good Midwest Gal and I remember when you were planning your wedding and you're like Jeff probst is going to vitiate. I was like the guy from survivor. It is happening. So here's what happened. My now has been Li i. We were at an EMMYS party. Now I know out out there. People think that when you go to these parties you become friends with people but you really don't Hobnob. You may take a picture and then you never see them again and you sort of stick stick with people you already knew. Oh my gosh I just would always sit like next to like Brian. An Oscar and I was terrified to go meet people. You're better at it. I think you're you better at it. Yes remember when you made me go up to Meryl Streep that's a story for later. Yeah and Amy Adams and I said nothing I look like such a Dork. It just walked up and with like we had to meet Meryl Streep. I'm sorry if you have a chance to meet Meryl Streep you don't let that go well. Anyway that's a great story but mostly okay going in that so I hi ended up approaching Jeff probst at this party you would approach. I would never go up to him. Okay go on and I told him that I was a huge survivor ever fan and I was and we ended up really hitting it off especially Jeff and my then fiance Lee really hit it off because they had tennis in common. They played tennis Dennis to go there. Tennis Pals Yeah so after this party they ended up becoming tests powells and then we started going to dinners couples dinners you know. Jeff's wife is so lovely. Her name is Lisa so we just ended up becoming great friends with them at one of our dinners. Jeff said that he was nervous because that upcoming weekend he was going to be officiating. A friend's wedding. And you're like thing. Mingling Jeff Probst is the type of guy where he is really caring and he's has a sort of just like a spiritual soul. I'll kind of like Rainn Wilson S. I'll tell you one thing when you talk to someone like Jeff Arraign. You feel like you're the only person in the room. Yes and they're truly interested in you. They really WanNa know you. They care about what you care about like they're interested in you and I thought that's the kind of person you want to officiate. Your wedding you want that kind of soulful carrying person. But then also he's a host so he's comfortable sort of commanding attention from a group of people. Well it was awesome. You were there awesome awesome. I was there. Here's my one story from your wedding. Jeff probst before your wedding called me. He got my phone number from you and was like. Can you tell me any stories about Jenna that you know from the years and I was supposed to give a speech at your wedding toast. I was going to give a toast. You asked me to give a toast and I I sort of told Jeff some of my stories about you that I was going to have in my toe so now and he stole them. He took some of my bits. And so then like when I got up to give my toes. I don't know if you remember. I'm like I'm going to say a few things I mean. Jeff Produce Pretty much stole all my stuff but whatever and I called him out for silhouettes so as you were watching the wedding All you're thinking was he kept soon stuff yes daynet probe St. I told you I call them up state. I made up a nickname for him. I'm sure he loved it all right next fast fact what the original cut of this episode came in forty minutes which is way too long because for a show to air on television network. TV Network TV. It can only be twenty minutes. It's in thirty seconds. Well for the commercials hey network. TV people. I just have a little tip for you and I know you want me to weigh in on things. Change up your your format. I know because they had to cut out like half of what they wanted to cut. And Greg considered splitting this into two episodes. I wish they could take all the stuff they cut out and rerelease it all without so fun I will tell you on the season one. Dvd they have the deleted leded scenes from this episode and they are delightful okay. I watched them and most of what was cut out. Where really funny? It kind of general office life scenes so there was this great bit between Jim and Dwight where Dwight is changing his password. Where he's going on and on about how his password on his computer is the best and Jim keeps guessing it he's like is it Frodo and it is and then there's another really great one of Dwight just cleaning out the fridge in the break room and he throws away gyms tuna sandwich? There was also a really great seen that when I was watching this deleted scene I remembered shooting shooting and it was so funny of Michael Coaching Pam. On how to answer the phone with a smile Oh my lord that she sounded really gloomy and then stands by her desk and waits for the phone to ring and there's just these long pauses and then he does this funny thing where he puts his hands in front of his face and he says. Tell me if I'm smiling or not. He's like thunder Mifflin. This is Michael and she's like yes. You're smiling ailing. And then he D- under Mifflin. This is Michael and I'm like not smiling and he's like you hear the different and then I have this line where I'm like. That was a really a great example. Thank you so there is a place if you're interested the season on. DVD has all of these deleted scenes on it. And you know by the way. The reason Greg couldn't split this up into two episodes he thought of doing one episode. That was just about throwing the vertebrae already and one episode. That was just about the alliance the the big prank and then you could have filled it out with some of these general office life scenes. The problem was at the end of the episode. We all are have birthday. How we all have cake AAC birthday hat? And so the end of the alliance part ends with birthday hats and so he couldn't do it Geno. I have some trivial on my note cards but you need to tell me when you're done with your fast facts so I live one more fight mess up your list. I see I looked at my note cards. I can see one of my fast facts on your no car stop. What can not my homework? Well my goodness well excuse me yeah. Here's my last fastball. Okay do it near Erin dear. DNA Heart and yours. This is the first time we meet the Party Planning Committee the PPO my Gosh just years of just just lovely memories of US plannings ridiculous parties. Oh my gosh I remember that because I I remember that there was just a tiny tiny bit that was scripted. Yes and then. Greg told US Greg Daniels said guys just keep planning the party. Yeah just just we're going to record you yes us. and that's when Phyllis was naming colors what colors dreamers And then we did this whole like we did a whole other tangent about do we say happy birthday or do we surprise or do we say happy birthday surprise surprise. Who would say that? You're right. We should start. It was surprise. You say surprise verse and then Pam's just caught in the middle of you and Phyllis and I love the dynamic of your subtle bullying affiliate Phil. Yes you're you're famous line. I think green is kind of horror is in this episode yes and Villas of course wearing in green and then I throw her under the bus at the end I blame her for the lane. Streamers Red Streamers I just love all of it and there was so so much that was there that got cut and I I know why I mean no one wants to watch like twenty minutes of US trying to plan a party but it was so fun you I always. I felt like like there could be a spin off web. A website called the party planning. BBC Yeah Oh my Gosh. What if there was like this cool thing where they like uncovered covered all of the the like unused footage of US getting parties that Scott to exist in a vault somewhere? I would totally want to see it but we did. We had so much fun and we we took such long pauses and it was so boring it was four ham was dying inside my take on. That scene was that I should speak very very little like how I got roped into being on this committee. I feel like my was forced onto it by Michael. I don't think I volunteered and I just wanted the meeting to be over and it. Didn't you know but you have that. Have you been in those office. Yes I I mean come on you and I both tempt and we worked in offices and yeah I mean yes you've been in those meetings. Were famous like line. That people say like this whole meeting could have been one email melt. That's that's what it is You know I have to point out my hairstyle in this party planning committee scene because that hairstyle was bonkers crazy. It it was like I don't know we took two pieces and we twisted it back to the back of my head and then we did a low ponytail that connected it and I had so many like rubber bands and pins a holding it and then I had one piece that kept flopping out and it drove me crazy by the end of the episode. I was like I don't ever want this. I can't do this again. I can't have this again and you can do whatever you want but this weird multiple like rubber band. I can't do it again Angela. I feel like we've come full circle here. We started by speaking about your hair. And now we're seeing about your hair again. It's almost like it's almost perfect. This must make you so happy it does I take it back. I think that you were right to to have that banter. I will take that Jenna Fisher. Let's take a break and then we'll come back and we'll start to Really dive into this episode. Okay gene bye seen. Let's do it Angeles time to talk about something that we've been wanting to talk about for a very long time. We're pretty excited about it. It's the Chrysler. PACIFICA you guys. We get into loners at the holidays. And we're GONNA be driving them all around and I can't wait. Oh my gosh. I've been going on the website and just looking at pictures of them. My husband and I talk about it all the time. We can't wait for our PACIFICA. We can't wait wait. Wait Josh and I can't wait. We are doing a road trip and that is the car. We're going to take so okay. Here's a little over share but my neighbor has one so. I've been like walking up to my neighbors car when he parks it on the street and looking in the windows. Yeah that's me. I'm the creeper but I'm excited about the Chrysler the Pacific. So here's what we're excited about the stow-n-go seating and storage system. 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I've actually talked about this because you bake it and just one thing is dirty at the end. Well he best. It's not like multiple pans all over the stone. Yeah no we like to keep it simple. And he's actually said to me before I'm like. Oh you're texting. And he's like Jenna. She's making our one sheet recipe tonight. She's dating me and also he does. These one dinners. They're so good but anyway if you want to check out our recipes. We're hoping someday to have a cookbook. We're not there yet but we do have a website. WWW dot baking josh and Ange Dot Com. Tom That's www baking AKA. I N G with the W I T H Josh J. O. S. H. and A. N. D. and A. N. G. E. DOT COM. That's what my family calls me. And so you know your family now. Welcome welcome back. Welcome back we are talking about the alliance. Let's get into Gen all right. The very first scene in this episode is Dwight waiting outside of the bathroom to confront Michael about the downsizing rumors and I just have to say we do this. A lot to Michael always makes me laugh first of all. How much time does he spend in the bathroom? And whenever people want to talk to them they because this already happened Oscar yes waits outside the bathroom to confront him yes. We're always bombarding him out. I think it's because my goal is always avoiding leading us. He's like hi. He always avoiding work unless he has a joke to tell or unless he has good news yes otherwise he hides in so people wait for him outside of the bathroom and he's always startled and I. I have a lot of empathy for him because as a mother I feel like every time I go to the bathroom and someone is literally waiting outside the door for me always always I don't understand it What is that? I can't mothers go to the bathroom without someone outside the door. I don't Oh now you know. I have such like empathy for my parents now in a different way. I remember my dad going to the bathroom. One time and I was outside the door like I think I was like messing with the door. I was like doing like click. Click Click Click on the click. And my dad was like I'm trying to go to the bathroom and I was like. Hey Dad like he just needed five minutes. Just five minute by minute. Slide things under the always side things under the that drawing couldn't wait no are they just opened the door or come on in. I know I know. Oh okay sorry okay anyway. Poor Michael is accosted as he comes out of the bathroom once again. I have like a fun little white thing that I noticed in re watching this so it is such a joy for me to go back and rewatch these episodes. I know you're having a lot of fun with it too. But I always thought the first bobblehead dwight ever had was the the one that my character gave him for Valentine's really self. I knew that wasn't true. What the reason your character made him a bobblehead of himself was because of his love of bobblehead? She's just maybe something you want to look into free healthcare really yes. That's a known thing that Dwight loved bobbleheads. Yes on his desk. Oh my God wow how did I miss. It Ain't now looking at me like I'm having like I might need to take medication for something. Oh my God that just occurred to me see. I thought I thought he was so excited because I gave him a bobblehead owned my God. Oh my Lord I am attending bat. Okay I wrote on my car. The Genetic Punch Ice Commission Point based kill team. I counted it's six bobbleheads are they the phillies. Because I walked past his desk. They didn't notice because he collected bobbleheads. I your character makes him a bobble head of himself. That's where your character got. Got The idea right the show. Oh my God how did I miss that. I mean so this is an example of how fans show might know it better than some of the people on my God Liangelo is pointing coming out of the show that landed on everyone else excited. Look at my notes. So many exclamation point six bobbleheads. They're all baseball players. I do have some other good note cards coming up. Let's see another note cards. Okay all right Sassy I see pants. I put an asterix because I thought it was so good. Do you know that there is a continuity error. Oh look at your face. Now Jenna the Fisher have this in my note. Oh I know there's a continuity error with a in its in accounting at seven minutes at seven minutes Michael is is talking about what he's GonNa write on the Bird Day birthday card yes and he says you know what guys I have set the bar really high. Oh Sam pull it up. Lit It up on the screen. Sam is here in the booth. He's GonNa show Jenna all right. I am at the copier at the beginning of this talking head behind Michael. I'm in my beige sweater. That I wear through the whole whole episode with my crazy ponytail all right and then it cuts to me at my desk during his talking head and I'm in a white t shirt. A white went down with the black sweater invest in a different hairstyle. They edited in a different piece of footage to cut to. And I'm completely different completely different episode. I meant a white button down and a Black Swan. I'm looking at it now. I hate bear sweater over my shoulder through the window at the copier. Jim Roach Chimera death. I heard you're turning forty six but come on. You're an accountant. Just fudge the numbers. I bet pretty funny at the copier don't appreciate condoning corporate fraud. Though now I leave the copyright. Go to my desk desk. This is apparently when you're changing clothes. So what are you doing back there. You're putting on people are expecting. I've already set the take a look at that completely. Run outfit. Ha Ha Whoa. I have something else to talk about in the scene. Gene but okay. Can you just say okay. Maybe I fumbled the bobblehead moment but I did catch a continuity error so I will knock it okay. I'm I'm giving that to you. I didn't see it. I didn't see thank you. You saw it. I saw something I it so you saw something to what you see. Well I'M NOT GONNA take credit for this. This was from is roses on twitter. I eighty roses. Capital is e roasts on. Okay Okay mentions that in this moment comment when michaels reading. Jim's comment Jim References. That meredith is an accountant. Yeah we just watched the scene and you didn't catch that because I was looking at my outfit. You're looking at your outfit. I was listening to the words and I heard it too. That's just a big the I heard it as well so you know. Her question was what's up with that. I thought there were three accounts. Why does he say you're an accountant? Just fudge the numbers. This is another continuity error another. So here's something that I have at home okay. That is an amazing thing. It's called the show Bible. Okay okay do you know what a show Bible is for a TV show. I do okay you know. Let's explain it to people a show. Bible is a giant document. I mean like thousands of pages looks. It's like a phone book. It looks like a phone book and in it it lists every character and every fact about them and every episode. If we learn something new about them it gets put in the Bible. Yes so it says our job. It says Moore relationships to people. I have a copy of the show Bible for the office. Wow how I got at this. I don't I mean there's probably only like two or three of them. Yes I know and I think I borrowed it Jim because I over the summer earn. Give it back. Yes I think. This is true over the summer from season. Eight to season. Nine Greg Daniels came to John and I and asked us if we had any me ideas for our final character arc in season nine and he said if hopes you you can borrow the show Bible so wait Greg. I think John has your show. I have got if you've been looking for it. Maybe I shouldn't be saying this out loud because I really love my show Bible. I could probably make a copy before. I think they should make a copy. According to the show Bible Meredith's narratives job is customer service REP slash supplier relations. She is not an accountant nurse. She's not an accountant and Israel said what is her job. Because I know she's not an accountant. So that's your answer. Also Kelly is a customer service REP and I remember. There was a bit of a story where we put her back in that other room in the annex backed by toby because she talked too much she was too chatty and offering meredith so they moved her back there but really the reason isn't she sat back there was because she was a writer and they didn't want her to waste her writing time. Doing background work. Yeah so she had to be like separated separated so she could get out to right right. They made it a story point. You know what Greg said one time We had a new writer one season and he was talking to me. They were GONNA they. Were GonNA be giving like food and the episode and they were the handed me like the steak or whatever and I was like well my characters have vegetarian and he was like. Oh I didn't realize that and I was like yeah. My character actor is a vegetarian and then greg was like standing next to me and he was like you know what anything you want to know about each of their characters. Just go talk to them. They know their character. They know sort like the Canon of all they've lived every episode and they know their individual character story so well. I didn't know your character was a vegetarian. When do we establish that? It's it's established early on and then like it's throughout throughout all the years like atd wally I was like I guess I'll just eat non whatever on like there's like a whole the thing I'm GonNa look it up in the show. I looked up in the show Bible. Maybe we should well. Let's get back to this episode a little bit. We got on a tangent. Oh me and you WANNA tangent get Outta town hard to believe even talking about all right. So there's a scene early on where Pam and Michael are stuck in the office together. I remember I could not get the scene. There's this never-ending drum roll where Michael wants me to announce who has a birthday coming up and he also calls you his assistant nurse. I guess hilarious areas like he has such a grandiose view of his job and who he is you are his assistant. You're not front reception for the whole company. Right you're michaels. His personal assistant. Personal way system is not true and he does this never ending drummer on the desk. That was making me laugh. And he wants me to announce whose birthday is coming up and I say there's no birthdays and he's like well next one. Just who is it so then I say we'll meredith's birthday is next month and then I'm just I am just giving him nothing in the scene and he starts swooping his phone across my face to see if he can find of life. Yes I cracked up on my God. He was so so funny when he was doing that. I just remember when I was watching this. I just remember losing it. But that's sort of where we set up. That storyline is that we now have to throw a party league for Meredith whose birthday next month. This is like a real dork thing but when I watch these early scenes of Michael's office it looked so different over the years you know like there's that shelf off in the corner. He doesn't have the tall standing shelf with two doors. It's a different lower shelf. I don't know if you look at all that and I'm like oh his like the furniture in his office keeps changing aging. This is a super nerdy thing for me to notice but I mean I don't notice bobbleheads you're gonNA notice a major story if you're gonNA move a cabinet. I'm GONNA notice us so the next big sort of plot point scene is rain asking Jim if he wants to form an alliance and this produced one of our inside joke lines Mhm He asked him if he wants form. An alliance and Jim Pauses mini says. Absolutely I do and we used to say that to each other on the asset. That used to be a thing absolutely I do I love. I love the so much because it's just like Jim finally get to have fun at work. This is like one of his favourite days. You would think right like because otherwise it's just the monotony of it. All in and Dwight does drive them. Crazy talks about how crazy that Dwight makes him and he finally gets to like really mess with him. mm-hmm at Dwight's invitation. That is the best he has that talking head where he says. Sometimes it's just handed to you. I mean you're thinking how can I mess with this guy and then and here. This wonderful gift comes so after they decided to form the alliance he says. Don't tell anyone you can't tell anyone right gyms like of course not and then Jim immediately. It comes up to the reception desk and tells me that he's formed an alliance with Dwight right. And you see Dwight Hovering in the background listening in and he wants to get Jim away from me so he has this line where he's like Jim. Can I talk to you about The the paper products so I listened to the DVD commentary of this. And I guess in that scene they have a bunch of takes where rain every time he would change the end end of the line and I think it was. Mike sure said his favorite Alt- of that was. Hey Jim. Can I talk to you about the he. Just uh-huh mumbles thing that you can even hear. I love that I also loved like John. John Krasinski as Jim you just you could just see John. I think 'cause we know him having so much fun. You know like when when they go into like the kitchen and Joyce like what are you join us. Like I'm I'm working her like on this okay like I just saw John like our friend John Having so much fun in that moment and it it just made me smile. It's so cute the whole way that he is winding up in this episode. It happens again where he goes into the kitchen where he's supposed to be spying on. Toby and Kevin who are having lunch. Oh my God that conversation ridiculous. They're like amazing boring conversation. Asian yes and that produced another most frequently quoted inside joke line on the office which is when they're talking about the bread and then uh John's take on that line. He says their bread is very good. Very good we would do that all the time and then here you are the bread maker bigger. Oh my gosh our life guys. My bread is very good. Thank you we cannot not talk about. The fact of how eagerly eagerly PAM is to join in Jim's prank and becomes a huge participant like in pulling this prank on Dwight. Oh Yes yes well. This is their opportunity you to spend time together any opportunity to team up with Jim. I mean it in the deleted scene. We established that the phone rings very infrequently. Yeah which we could probably have guessed? Anyway this is so much fun for her she's having so much fun and GM is just a loving it and and his talking head about like Akao. Brilliant you were that you just came. Pam came up with that all on her own. Yeah when I come to ask and I'm like all fraught with. Oh I just don't know. Michaels told me so many things and I wanna want to unload all these secrets but he told me not to. And I'm doing that all so that Dwight can overhear joyce like Jackpot But Jim is just so enamored with if passed the scene. And you know what I'm Jam Fan you guys I am and I love their storyline. I was just like a total fan of them and I remember like every little nugget they had together. I was like and this is definitely one of those episodes. Should we take a break. I don't know. Do you want to take a break. Please take us to a break. Back Office ladies is part of the Ear Wolf podcast network. 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All and while you're at it follow on twitter and instagram for behind the scenes photos videos and an updates. We're back all right all right so another big part of this. Episode is Oscar Baiting Michael Michael into donating to his nephew's walkathon charity But Michael Sort of not getting what walk-a-thon is now so he puts in this big bid and this is this is an example also of the benefit of the documentary crew element of the show. Because there you can tell L. at first when Oscar walks into his office and asked him if he'll donate to his nephews charity he doesn't want to heal key would if the cameras weren't there he would probably say no right right right but he can't say look like a good guy he wants to look like a good guy and so then he goes over the top and he donates twenty five dollars and only later is it brought to his attention that it's twenty five dollars per mile. Yes exactly and that realization happens in a great scene with Jim at the birthday party and there is just this long pause. I'll tell you what Steve Carell is is better than anyone at leading emotion wash across his face and you watch that emotion of like. Oh Ker- APP just like. Oh what did I do like go across his face at like we see this again in fun run right because he likes signs up to do like so many miles and he doesn't realize what like something about Michael does not understand. I walk along with on or anything like that but no that is so good. Well I did. I added it up because in the in the episode Michael Once he realizes it's per mile he asks Oscar like Hey. How strong is your nephew like in good shape so Michael has pledged four hundred and fifty dollars? I did the math. He thinks he's pledged twenty five but instead he pledged four hundred fifty dollars. I also need to go back. I skipped something that I think is really fun thing in the parking lot. There's a scene where what am I going to say. It was phyllis his car was villas. Yes Jim and Dwight or standing next to a car and they are comparing notes about everybody in the office and what they've learned and they're standing next to a car and it's villas Elissa car yes and rain as Dwight keeps kicking the car and Phyllis she didn't care for it. She was very nervous about it and I guess at some point she went up to rain and said listen. It's totally fine. If you kicked my car but don't kick the car or the hubcap just the tire. The tire. We used to park our cars in that little parking lot. Yeah and a lot of our real cars yeah have appeared as cars in the in the show and then they in seasons slater. They had US move our cars. I think maybe they realize there's like liability or something so but in those early days those were our cars a very very a big element of this episode. Is the point where Dwight ends up in a box warehouse spy and more than any other question when I put this out to fans for questions the most questions that we got the most frequently asked questions were about this box walks rate. How long was rain in the box? How many takes did we do? How many boxes did we use right? One of the questions was there's a scene where Pam is is on the phone doing a fake phone call and the box kind of tips over. I didn't run off. Wait I know car-o-van no Kurt about this. What does I okay? I know you put it out to twitter but this is your your bff. So I can it. Can I ask First Class Jennifer Question Colin. Did you really break and laugh by the Fox. I think you did because I know what happens to your shoulders when you really laugh. This was the question. This is a question that people wanNA know. I think I faked got it. What Ya? I don't think I really broke. I don't want to believe that I know I think a because I remember shooting that scene and I remember it was very very technical. Okay so it was I. It was happening over. My shoulder stuff was happening on my shoulder but there was a way where they wanted at a certain moment so it was kind of technical so you had to sort of get out of the way in. The box was typically exactly so I remember shooting at a number of times James and I remember thinking to myself. Gosh does this even look real like do it. It's a really. There are two things that I think are really hard to do. When you're acting one of them is CRI- I think people would expect that but the other is to laugh convincingly yes you know who has the best fake laugh Steve? Carell Steve Carell can do this. Fake laugh that is is the most honest genuine laugh and every time he would do it I would start to laugh even though I knew it was a fake laugh. It was so contagious. He his the best of it. I find it's easier to cry than to fake laugh myself for difficult. It is the reason. I think that I didn't really break is because I remember having anxiety over whether or not anyone who's GonNa buy it John I have a little something on my no Kurt here. What is it have another note card hard I wrote? This is the first time we see Darrel. Yes yes when rain POPs out of the box the end Darryl is down there now now we have seen. We're not going to hear him speak until the next episode. which is basketball? Yes but that is the first time we see Daryl so I was very excited. I Know Rhino Card came in handy. I love that about her. I love how we plant seeds that grow later. We don't that is a person who is is going to be a major character on the show but we introduce him just as a guy seeing the rain come out of the box. Yeah that is one of the things that I know we say it over and over and we will for the life of this podcast but one of the things I love about what Greg Daniels did is he starts in the middle. He doesn't like spoonfeed. You information formation just the way they designed the show you play catchup as an audience member. You're just like a day in the life and you're right in the middle of love that yes. I love that too okay. Here's here's a big confession about the box. This is going to blow your mind. Rain wasn't in the box more time who was in the Box Fox who is in the box fills shea our prostate. Yeah Bill Shay Yeah. She is very tall person. Yeah we'll so as rain and he was is in that box time so most of the box acting was done by Phil Shea of course except for the end where rain busts out and come so in that scene where I'm cracking up. Yes Phil Shay was in the box. All my gosh you know what I think we should do. Angela Tell Jenna. I think we should call Phil Shea and get him to answer all of our questions in. What was it like in the box phil show we are about to blow up your phone Fell yes fills Shea Jan Angela. Hi Oh hey guys how are you good. How are you thank you so much for calling? By G- you always a pleasure to help out PAM. Thank you so much. It's just so nice to hear your voice thinking I was like Shit so nice to hear your voice. Hey what an experience we'd have for nine years right yes. We were the luckiest. We were the luckiest well. If you have a second Phil can we ask you some questions from the Alliance episode absolutely so we opened up questions to the fans and the M- overwhelmingly the people wanted to know about was the box that rain rain gets into in the warehouse so they wanted know how long he was in the box. Everything about the box but Phil I know you. We're in the box. Rain Garden after all the shoeing and the scooping and allied was done. Yeah all of that in the box. So you're the scooter. And the Tumbler. All that I was apparently Mr suborn our line producer Vin think we have enough money to hire a stunt guy take time to be in the and I remember I have to go out and buy my own elbow pads knee pads and then I had a loose. I had a loose walkie talkie in there with me with Liz Ryan was the first name he shouting along with. Brian Gordon who was our director to that episode's command. I remember like it was yesterday. So Phil Can. Can you take me through from the beginning. You you get a script and it says this character has to be in a box. So what do you do. 'CAUSE you're in charge of getting the box as the black uh-huh where do you start on that particular prop like I sought out Greg Daniels and I said Do you see rain. Sitting down squatting. In the boxer's been needling down on his knees and he said kneeling on the Tansy. So much rain is right for you fell. You're very taw. Aw Yeah Yeah rain is I think six one six two. I'm six one if I blow dry. My hair showed great. You guys should know Phil has an amazing inherit. It really does. This is true. I least I said it's a Hollywood fake air I tracked rain down and I asked him get on his hands and knees Eisner after this box in rain on his hands and knees and you'll measure to measure him to know how that was season. One rang was willing to do anything then. I went to a couple of bucks cities around southern California. No one had a box close to that. The man went onto the Internet and looked at box manufacturers and southern California. I found a company when I found a company in San Diego named Kent Landsberg. And you have to understand as prop people. We have a very short production in time and lead time to get all these prop so I called. This can't landsberg paper company and asked to speak to the manager and much more frenetic and hyper voice. I said look. You've gotTA helping out. I have to have a custom box me. Probably need one hundred of them and they need us the mentioned like three hours away too well and also also. That's such a good point. You didn't need one box unique enough android right boxes. Because you didn't know how many takes we're going to do and Brian Gordon. The director of this episode and in a notorious for many many takes so you were right to grow your basis and get one hundred yes right and we thought that scene in under under Mifflin warehouse with one of the boxes on the shelves. And it's not just like one yeah. It wasn't a proxy just appeared appeared out of nowhere so we had to give some legitimacy where originated from all the details. So how'd you do it. This guy said he would do it no problem and then how'd you get them well. I taught him. He said the lead time is usually a month and a half four days. I need the boxers in four days and I said it was for a TV show. So it's really office. which is a remake of the British version readmissions fan of the British version? I never heard of their show like you guys were listening on exactly what. He's no no he said he would be glad to make an exception for a TV show so he made it happen. We got boxes delivered to Culver City. which that's where we shot that episode in our first and then they put the graphics on the box and we had him back two days before we were filming we had it all done and rain fit in the box fine and then and we just about coordinating worthy holes with the inserted by meeting inside? Box with WAITZ Swiss army knife and it was a great team. I I mean I remember shot that down. I think it was a Friday night shot at seeing but it was. It was fun everybody was laughing. The crew was always laughing on that show and it was a great Stan in Finland not so much and it is so much I have. I'm looking at a picture that I a email you that Michael Gallagher gave me of. I'm GonNa send you a picture as soon as we hang up of me getting ready to tape this box. And I. I don't know if you have the only picture on the podcast but I'm gonNA. I'm GonNa take a picture on our website. Thanks yeah okay. I'll take a picture and you can see by the expression on my face after about fifty sweat lodge But but Jenny you were there and you remember the last week when Brian Gordon said one more I hope you remember this where he had me do all the stuff and then when I cut myself out of the box everybody went and hit. I came out I came out into the warehouse so he at least played a practical joke at the end. Making it was pretty fun. We did. We left you in the box and we pretended like we still filming. And then you just were there for so long the pill I would have their fill. I would've come up and fill out. They left it was so funny it was seen and Phil can crew two questions that you really quickly we let you go okay. Okay so after getting this box sounds sounds like it was a massive undertaking. Fill your job is sounding really fun like you read an episode and then you have to come up with all these weird objects gags. It sounds fun and stressful fill like like. How do you get one hundred autism four days? It's always fun. It's always stressful. And it's great to be like I said a small part of production that resonates with a viewer and fans across generations of the office did So it's fun. It is stressful at. But it's a it's a real joy to do it when everybody laughs and everybody enjoys the prop and that's a little value to the scripted scene and and then we all go home and laugh and had a good day so yeah well we appreciate you and we are going to be calling you a lot. The office ladies. So thank you for taking the. Yeah I have vivid memories of all the props. We may so the office anytime you guys with. Call me behind the time we're talking. I had like eight questions questions about different episodes down the road so I did too. We'll definitely be calling you backfill. Thank you so much. We missed you going to we issue as well. Well let's let's keep under missile and relevant for the next thirty years all right well have a good day. Yeah tell everyone we say over there. Okay I will. Victor thanks Angela. By what's next Jonah Marino cards left. Well now we need to talk about the cake. Oh yes a high S- cream the mint chocolate chip ice cream cake. Yes I got so sick. Reading the second most frequently asked question was about the cake. And what the cake was like and did we really eat the cake. Oh we ate that cake you guys and guess what you start filming we would start filming at seven thirty. Am Seven thirty am you. You'RE GONNA eat ice cream cakes. Someone had you a plate of ice cream cake at seven thirty. Am and you're GONNA eat it for five hours all day all dare like let's break for for lunch and you're like I wanNA puke. Yeah let me say something about prop food oh do it. BJ Novak Love Prop Food Mindy caling loves prop food. I also also kind of like it. I get real excited when I have to snack in a scene I do not because I know it's GonNa turn on me I know and it's gone every time and still make the same mistakes steaks every time I would see ed Helms Kaeling you. BJ Be like ooh brought food and get so excited. Yeah like is waste yourself gross. We'd have a party in the a commerce room and they'd have like pigs in a blanket and you just mean. BJ would be over there. I'd be like guys slow down. No eat that for four hours. I know well. This was the first time that I made the mistake and I started walking down ice cream cake nearly matched that in every shot. Whatever you do in the first shot you then have to match it so continuity wise it all makes sense? And here's the thing I'm in the background of most of the ice cream. What it was wolfing it down in the background? She didn't have to the background. I was in the background and then by the time it was time for my close up I it was so sick. I didn't want to eat the ice cream but then I had to. I'll tell you this. I had a slice and Michael walks up to Philipson I. And when he walks up. Poor Steve Wolfing the cake down. Oh yeah as he's talking he would eat a full peace every man they they eventually got a bucket though they because bid in which is also disgusting. It's called a spit spit bucket. But he would walk up eating the cake and he was talking to Phyllis and Meredith and my character. I was just GonNa take one bite as he walked up and by the end of the five hours of doing the scene. When I would scoop up that one by my hand would start disciplining I was like Oh yeah. You're off. It was rejecting it. It was like. Please don't put that mint chocolate chip ice cream in your mouth. One more time ever again for the rest of your life. I can't eat. I can't eat it now. My daughter loves MINT CHOCOLATE chip. I don't want it near me. I loved loved ice cream cake. In general no and only it was last year for my son seventh birthday. I finally a a piece of ice cream cake again again. But that's it had been like I'd gone on like a fifteen year moratorium so the final thing. I think we should talk about. Oh yeah episode. Matt note is the scene with Roy coming into the office and confronting Jim Nicer so busted. I remember like being over in accounting being like Oh and also David Denman. Men can be scary when he wanted to be intimidated. Such a teddy bear in real life. No ugly when he came like this guy. He's a big guy and I think he turns my my character on because he's such a man like you see that. Play out later where I do. I'm clearly like enamored Roy. But in that moment I was like Oh my God Roy is GonNa kick ask your character. Angela Lakes beefy Alpha male. Sure sure does. That's true so I remember the scene. I remember breaking it down. We shot a ton of versions of this zine because we really didn't know how big of a reaction Roy should have so. The first thing I remember was that somehow in the scene when Jimmy giggling about our accomplishment we had to find a way to hold hands that there had to be like organic way an organic way. They were his arm is around meet. There had to be something because Roy has walked in the door before and seen Jim Standing at reception talking to me so we had to come up with this reason that John would come around the front of the desk. He's so excited. He's so excited that he jogs around so instead of coming up to me with the dusk between us. Which is is what you've seen in the past? This was a big moment. He breaks that barrier. He comes around the desk. He puts his arm on me. We ended up kind of holding hands ends and giggling and I remember US really struggling to make sure that it looked real and not stage. We didn't want to do something so out of the ordinary that you would be expecting something to happen right and I think we I think we accomplished it and then when he burst in the door there were a couple of takes where where he pushed jim up against a wall where he got really more physical with Jim and so we shot all these different versions so that we could get it just right right and that in the version they went with this the best? I think if Roy had gotten to physical there it just would have taken us all out of X. We'd be like Whoa but I think just how ticked off. He was and then. I thought John was brilliant in that. He was so believable when he was like I. I don't even know how to explain this. 'cause he realizes how ridiculous particularly how their holy has been. Yeah and how do you explain what they've been doing Ya. And and they're so busted though like it is a moment that made me totally cringe. Yeah and you know that Pam had words about that. Oh the car right and all the car yes yes car ride home that that was a a tough one. My husband and I always talk about that. We'll be like at a dinner party or something and you see like a couple have like an awkward exchange like lean over to my husband and be like car ride home current home's got kind of a rough one so that's it that's the alliance. Can I say one more thing. I want to say one more thing. This episode has has a special place in my family's life. Why because while we were shooting this episode? They got out early so that I could go home for my sister's as wedding my sister's wedding I had to travel so she got married while we were shooting this episode and this year she celebrated her fifteenth wedding anniversary off. Aw that's sweet so when I was watching this I remember that. That's a fun full circle life moment to know. Well the this is the thing. You guys are going to hear a lot as we do this podcast. Is You know this show. Oh spanned ten years of our lives and so much life happens in those ten years and we really do have all these special memories of our own lives mixed in with what was happening happening on the office and I feel like it shows because we all became so invested in each other's lives the our own misfit family like the cast of of the the the people that played the characters on the office in real life have a lot of shared life moments and memories. And I think I just makes the show special to me so when I watch shit I remember things to. Yeah and it's just so. I love that you showed that that was the alliance everyone. That's right Don't judge me for the bobblehead moment. Don't judge judge me. John has already judging me enough. So just you know you can rest. I judged you and then it was over because then you pointed out that great other Fac your thank you very much you earn back my yeah okay so you guys we would love to hear your questions or if we get something wrong of remiss. Something might miss a few things for sure I mean. We're chatty Jena we get is a little chatty and we miss things we missing so right yes yes you can contact us at office ladies at Ear Wolf Dot Com if you have questions about an episode put the episode title in Your Subject Line. Jenna Pie like organizations not really help us organize your question. Please do that for you to call me advent you can general oh QNA if it's a general question but if it's

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4 Weddings & a Funeral with Joe & Kendall, Heather Martin and Krystal Nielsen

The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

1:19:20 hr | 1 year ago

4 Weddings & a Funeral with Joe & Kendall, Heather Martin and Krystal Nielsen

"Four weddings and a funeral as a new original series produced by Mindy Kaeling the four main characters in the series our friends from College Maya lives in New York while her other closest friends are in London. I had one of my bridesmaids bridesmaids come in this weekend for my bridal shower and she eilly to see once a year. She's a Grad school friend. She's a bridesmaid. We're super close but it's just it sucks when you don't live close to each other. Eight of my friends live in Denver with me Ashley. We've been close ever since high school. Oh that's so nice you can catch the premiere of the new Rom Com series four weddings and a funeral on July thirty first only on Hulu. This is the Ben and Ashley. I almost famous podcast with iheartradio. Hey Hey guys welcome to the third almost famous podcast without Ben Higgins. Sorry guys this will happen with me. I hope you guys miss me and a couple of weeks when Jerry Ni- our way for our wedding and our honeymoon by the way Jarod here and I was just about to introduce you I know I'm kinda ruined surprise. I'm sorry that I'm replacing Ben Higgins. I feel like Benz like Mercedes and I'm kind of like a you know a Toyota Corolla. I'll get you from A. to be but I'm not going to be as sexy as Ben when he does. It jared come on now. Maybe not giving muscle. Maybe I'm overrating myself jared. You are a rolls rice. Will you have to say that you're marrying. Bring me you don't WanNa Marry Range Rover. A Range Rover Land Rover discovery aired prefers Land Rovers over range rovers. This is his new car ever since we car enterprise frontal goals. It is his goals but I'm like I heard that these land rovers and Rangers don't last very long yeah which is quite fifty thousand miles. If you guys are car experts out there. Let us know well anyway. The reason that we are recording this episode without Ben Rovers for days okay moving on. We are doing this bonus episode because we are having the most luxurious like most holly. I feel like I'm in. I feel like I'm in big little lies right now. Currently drinking glasses champagne as we speak because it's so luxurious in so posh where at this beautiful art jared my ultimate Decor d- house right now. It's like our H._D._T._V. Dream we yes home heart reached out perfection. I don't even know how to describe it. It's just an over load of perfection. It's all like dared. I want to make our house kind of like craftsman optimistic crafts mini modern but not like to modern clean but warm we have. We're in this house where it's got like well. Let's called like well. Let's call ceilings. No you're pointing up the would things <hes> panels or beans beans. There's beams. It's an odd shaped choose out. This house is awesome. It's got beans aired. Beams are beautiful. Beams are known Eli. There's also fireplace right there that you didn't that ups. That's not super unique anyway. Welcome to our lives. This is Joe in. We're just talking the way that we talk on Mike Off While we are talking about weddings so should we just start. Let me start kind of fresh right now and saying we are all gathered at this very beautiful Beverly Hills Mansion with a lot of our bachelor friends right now because Hulu has put together this amazing. We're calling it a summer soaraway Suray for us in celebration of their new ROM COM esque mindy kaeling produce show four weddings and a funeral they thought <hes> of all podcasts who is who's related who can relate to this show the most and it is the almost famous podcast because four weddings and a funeral so it's kind of like every year on the bachelor. Are we get like four engagements and we get well. We get more than one funeral. We'll get a couple of funerals funerals. Last in the final four feels like a funeral. I was GONNA say like the ones that like continuously get out of the show without a significant other kind of like me for a while. You're talking about. You're you're engaged. I don't mean now I mean like I used to be the funerals or we could so while I was gonna say I guess Nick would be the most polarizing probably the ultimate funeral. It's really it's really it's. He's the bachelor funeral no come up with another one another God and Lisa's at the table behind us. I would say oh. She's so sweet poor girl I'd say mcaliskey not in a bad way just because this is obviously a prominent name right now. He's back on Paradise is he's retirement. He did retire. He came out of retirement for this season. He's kind of like Jordan comeback with the four five which if you guys don't remember Jordan wore the number forty five when he came back from retirement and then went back to his traditional twenty-three. I know I'm really cared satchel nineties N._B._A.. Basketball Yeah so we are here in celebration of four weddings and a funeral again. It is a Mindy Kaeling Produce T._v.. Show and it's on Hulu and I'm very excited about coming. Bring out. I did get to see a little sneak peak. It's really good. If you like you know Michaela well yes every every girl I feel like of the millennial generation relates to mindy in some way. That's why I said okay if you like. Are you gonNA like this show. Oh and everybody likes her hi. I'm Kia. I'm funny. I'm awkward. I'm quirky. I'm really unlucky in love. She's the best this show is really fun and a lot of it has the first episode that I got to see revolves around a wedding and and one of the speeches at the wedding was totally butchered as I feel like a lot of them are jared and I found out some information this week about the speeches at our wedding and we would like to regale you with his tail and we would like your feedback and if you have pass it feedback you should email my sister because she's the center of the problem or pretty much story goes Ashley Sister. Lauren is the maid of honor. Obviously she has to give a speech to the wedding because that's what maid of honor's do. She hates public speaking so now we're kind of a little bit of an conundrum because she's very nervous and unsure if she wants to do dinner tell us tell her what she told our winner we'd all could also been the telephone effect so we got this information from from our wedding planner and we guys we know how this works. One person tell somebody something and then it gets turned into a different thing and then they tell them something different anyway point is from what we heard. She Ashley's maid-of-honor wants to do a speech at the rehearsal dinner and not the wedding because it's a more intimate smaller setting. She's GonNa feel more comfortable giving a speech rather than in front of you know potentially one hundred and seventy five ish people where half of them she might really not know who they are because it might be my side of the family who she has not met. Its let I've actually find it less nerve wracking to talk in front of people. I don't know a room of people I don't know is less nerve wracking than a whole bunch of people. I really care about when she wouldn't you think Y- yeah I I don't know I don't know that's a good question. I'm trying to think of high school but I guess that's back comparison. I don't know the classes that I felt like the closest to. I'd sometimes get the most nervous with because if I didn't really have a connection connection with them. I'd assume that they weren't even listening but I do think a wedding. It's a little different in that case and also my friends were far more torturous in high school. You know my guy friends would just make fun of me for anything now. My friends are far more supportive so I'd rather give a speech in front of them because because they were just telling me it's good even if even if I butchered it just try to be nice but back in high school. Even if I killed the speech there'd be like Bro. You sucked on a Li. It's high school. High School. Boy has grown do that anyway. So it's just like something that I have been obviously sort of dreaming of my whole life like my sister and I have always joked about giving speeches at each others weddings and we've always honestly joked about Lauren stagefright or public speaking fear what happens if you're not lawrence maid of honor jared that's. That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard you say I was just thinking awkward. Would it be humane Lauren your maid of honor and then in the past couple of years Lauren was like you know what I want. Somebody nobody else jared bats. I WANNA cry thing you've ever said. I'm just thrown out. This is guys. If you like follow my life to any degree in because you've listened to this podcast I feel like you may you know how close I am to my sister sure we lived together for many years in fact she lived with jared for the past year yeah and you saw on paradise together and you see how close we are. We have a podcast like we are like Siamese twin. What if she wants me to be her maid of Honor Patrick Dempsey movie? Excuse me I knew that what does that what was that call maid of honor but it was spelt m. a. d. not yes it was I will bet ten thousand dollars of Honor A._D.. We yes all right. I'm not I'm not even wagering on this because he might be right well. That's not fun honor m. a. d. r._A._M.. Feeling good feeling strong anyway so I've always joked. How many times do I say anyway anyway? I've always joked about my sister being nervous. My friends and I have always talked about how like somebody else was going to have to read her speech at my wedding but now she goes to our wedding planner inches like so. I'm trying to get out of giving the idle down there but that's what he made. It seem like it was like toilets. I'll be dramatic then we'd have to get a replacement and it's just come on now the but she'll go. I guess my question for you. Guys listening is my sister says that her having to give a speech the reception is going to ruin her entire day and she's not going to be able to focus on anything else until it's over. Should I just allow her to do it at the reception or should I allowed her to at the rehearsal dinner. Should I make her do that the reception or do we kind of find this happy medium where like she records her speech or she lip syncs her speech. H I know that people are going to really hate me right now but that's okay she has to do. I think she has to do it because I know everybody's GonNa say that. Lawrence should feel comfortable and don't make her do anything that she doesn't WanNa do fair enough. I understand that but the end of the day sometimes you suck up your own pride or insecurities to do something for somebody. That's very important in your life on one of the most important days of their life and not for me. She's not doing it for me or anybody body else except for you. You know I didn't even know we're really dramatizing if she doesn't want to do it at the wedding. We're just creating storylines right now. What if she objects when I before I say I do actually okay? That's other question for the next topic. I want to finish this out by saying I think it's like my sister is not a shy person at all. She's super outspoken and blunt and funny money and you know like she doesn't hide in the shadows. She doesn't come across as a nervous person. So that's why I feel like. I don't even believe fear public speaking because I'm like Lauren. You're just like you're very al.. She's <music> out going but you know she's afraid to talk to people. No I agree. I'm just thinking of people that would object before we say okay. We'll move on to this now. I was thinking Dean would do it just to mess things up just to just. What did you say that the other day? I'm going to do it just for like giggles yeah. I don't think he'll actually do it but I think there's a part of them. That might just yell it and then he'll smile and all that no. I know I agree if anything well. I guess we can tell we should we should break awesome news about our efficient. Well we know I will I will I will say I will. I will tease it a bit so because it is. What is today's date July? Let's not give the exact. Exacted away in we ever sorting jared we according this right now on July twenty third and that's why I'm telling people why we have to this we made this decision. I mean listen. We've talked a lot about it a lot having tanner officiate our wedding because he's been very close to both of us and been very close to our relationship and has been there every step of the way both him and jade but jade's pregnant and we don't know when the baby will come so we may have had to change some plans to go with our backup efficient. I think we've been pretty open the entire time ever since we found out that tanner and jade's baby we can tell you is do the same week. Yes our wedding okay the same week <hes> so when they told us that back in February I think it was <hes> we were like okay well. We're GONNA have to get back up and for some reason I really truly thought that she was going to have the baby a month thoroughly yeah now. We are a lot closer. The clock is ticking now well. I think what really changed our mind one. I think we both thought jade was going to have the baby early just because Emmy came on early and for those of you who don't know which probably everybody listened to this podcast snow's emmy is tanner jade's firstborn daughter who came a month early and apparently if a mother has a baby early. There's a twenty percent more likelihood that if she gets pregnant again she'll have a baby early again but that didn't have well she she may still have an early early but not as early on as early not a month early so when we found out the news we always had to go with the backup efficient or at least plan when when we kind of gave up until like you know we gave them like until a certain date where like if they don't have the baby by then probably going to have to go the backup because we actually have to work on getting our ceremony yeah now because we don't want both you know both people to have to go through the whole production of officiating including what to wear what to prepare what to say any things of that nature so you know the date that we kind of set came in pass and I think Ashley and I had to make the decision of what direction we were going to move forward and and Kinda sucks because as much as we love the person who's officiating which I don't want to spoil it because I'd rather I just have one day bit surprised and we love him. I mean I can't speak highly. We speak so highly of him. He's just an awesome awesome person and we're very excited. I'm very excited to be sending at the altar after with this particular person but of course there's a part of the show we have to say that no it's not been. It's somebody that we talked a lot. Yes sorry people I remember when I first. I thought it was tanner. People got annoyed at me because back before we were together. I had one time made a passing comment on the on the podcast then I would love to have beneficiary wedding that would I think that would be wonderful of course right now all that it's jared and I together there were other people that I felt like had been more involved in jared and I getting together yeah I mean everybody knows the history you know they're friends of you. They know the history of our relationship and and so I think there have been certain people within that time period that have been very instrumental in not only our relationship engagement but our friendship as well and I think when we got together and got engaged and we're deciding who we want to officiate our wedding we were thinking about those the people that had been so integral and not that Ben hasn't been but I think there's just been other people that we thought of that. Were like okay. This is the person that we want there that I want standing at the altar with me because they've been there every step the tone of the ceremony that they put together is going to be like just a tone that we feel are efficient. I can't wait. I mean he already told us what the first thing he's going to say is laughing and I mean crying dying and so I'm very excited. I'm excited for the white indicate here because we're we're you know the clock's ticking now it's almost here and it's just been really stressful and I think it's it sucks because anybody who's planning a wedding. I think has been at this point now where everything is just becoming logistics and about money and number counting and it just you kind of like forget holy crap. We're getting married here soon and we're getting bogged down with so many different materialistic things that I can't even enjoy the moment because we just got to get through this and that's what really stinks. It's like okay well. We just gotTA hurry up and get through these things and then will enjoy the time after that but the time after that is going to be like three days before the wedding and so that's I think the hardest part because you put so much time at least Ashley and I put so much time and effort into this wedding trying to make it the best we possibly can for us our guests and just make it you know the wedding we've always dreamed of pet. It sucks that were so stressed out by now and so I don't know I think both of us trying to take a step back and enjoy the moment we don't want to make it seem like this funeral but we do WanNa think Hulu for bringing us together tonight to celebrate their new show for weddings and a funeral four weddings and a funeral is a new Hulu original series produced by Mindy Kaeling the four main characters in the series. Our friends from college mile lives in New York while her other three closest college friends are in London. One of your closest friend lives in New York. I have a couple of friends friends of New York one in state one in the city and I really only get I get to see them like a couple times. A year at big events like my bridal shower that we just had so the wedding is bringing people together from all parts of the country and that's one of that's one of the things we're most excited nobody from London as of yet no but you never know what's going to happen in the next few weeks now but you can catch the premiere of the new ROM COM series four weddings and a funeral July thirty first only on Hulu live four weddings and a funeral is a new Hulu original series relationships are forged broken political scandals exposed London social life lampooned love affairs affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral of course duffy has a secret crush on Maya and Craig is trying to help Ben. Have you ever had a crush on somebody in your friend group is I did and I'd never talk about it. I've never openly discussed my high school crush on one of my closest friends. Oh my gosh I need to be so secretive about crushes back in the high school days I would worry all the drama that would ensue if I told this person and used to have a crush on him well hey catch drama in four weddings and a funeral. I knew ROM COM series produced by Mendi caling premiering July thirty first only on Hulu now we are joined by a couple who I don't want to put any pressure on you but could have a wedding in their future. They've been together for a year now. We're joined by Joe and Kendall Hello there. Hey guys yes so we're talking about. What adding speeches a minute ago? Have you ever been to a wedding where there is somebody who just bombed at the speech. Yes okay tell your stories you. You want to go first OK so it was my cousin's wedding and it was my cousin. She cried the entire but not because not because she was sad because she was so nervous. You couldn't deliver the speech and I know how that is has because I do get nervous but she was it was so bad and it went on for. I hope she doesn't listen to this actually but she probably will. It went on for like twenty five minutes where people were hiding all my God. This is horrible horrible and a part of me wanted to get up and stop it but I didn't and that's really that's twenty five minutes twenty five crying because she was standing up there. You would think that she just down you went through. The entire. Speech was probably like to note notebook pages full of you know she did and she didn't want. She couldn't give it up. Hold on. I'm not joked so how I believe every second every word Lord how long were her crying episodes so she would like say a paragraph cry for three minutes and I would say she would say maybe two sentences and then cry. Are you sure he wasn't just overly emotional. Why do you think he was crying from nerves because she shaking okay so she was nervous by she? It was her cousin. I mean who gets really that emotional cousin when it causing housing scenario given their close but it wasn't like just like a regular cousin getting married and she's giving a speech but she was nervous. There was a lot of people four hundred people reading your head to be nervous in front of four hundred people she mean yeah but it was still the worst speech ever Okay Candle. How about your? I actually used to be a wedding photographer assistant. Why do I feel like you could basically go through the most random occupations and candle yeah I've done that? I've had literally so many different weird jobs but yes I was an assistant photographer for weddings and I've seen a lot of different speeches the worst speech I feel really bad because I think it was the bridesmaid hides maid the maid of honor and I feel like she really tried to be funny in her speech but her entire speech she was saying how she didn't like the groom when they first met and she's like yeah I used to so many bananas they used to call him a monkey and no one laughed like literally one laughed yeah and you're just sitting there like <hes> she's like yeah. I just didn't like him when we first met and you deserve my friend and she just kept going and no one was like laughing at all like Kyaw. There is a basically that we at the wedding we were in January. What was he saying? I don't remember specifics the brother of the bride and he was just total Harto. You know what I mean like a hard like hard like a tool yeah on the groom and we thought he was gonNA like lighten up in turn a corner brides brother a little little so you had a little. I don't know protecting. Let him speak but he was just. I mean everything it wasn't even funny. It was just like yeah the groom's Adik Yeah as he's and then just silence and you're like wait was that am I am. I supposed to be one of those moments image where everybody at the tables were looking at each other like Oh God we feel so bad. Oh it was fantastic. It was great. I thought it was the best speech I heard the entertainment value look forward to my seat. Is that wedding. I look forward to actually giving being one. Oh how many have you done. I've never given a speech but I mean that's like. I really want my brother to get married for that for that selfish reason that I could get go up there and be like I think you'd rows everyone doing tonight. Oh yeah he took a whole stand up comedy spot. You do stand up now. Are you trying to get back into it. I did it back into it. Yeah I did it before I did the whole reality canceling. I was GONNA say like you were talking about growth here. You are the most nervous man coming out of the limo but I did well. I love the parts. I love the wedding speeches. They're my favorite part of weddings and I don't know why so many people are like old the speeches are they over yet like they're the best parts of us here the whole back story of everything nothing the whole fairytale that leads up to the actual moment like that's very much worthy of time. Have you guys planned out who would give speeches at your you know weddings in your head. Oh Yeah I would have my sister hands down. Give a speech so we were talking about how my sister is too nervous to give a speech and wants to do it at the rehearsal dinner yeah. It doesn't seem like a nervous person. That's exactly why I said. She can't get away with it. Oh she she'll feel fine. Though I think once she gets up there yeah hopefully she won't cry and shake the entire time like the person Joe is up there for twenty five minutes just saying nonsense as she's his crying. You guys talked about we didn't talk. Who Do you want to give your wedding? I would have my brother. I only have one sibling so we're really close yeah. Is he still in Chicago he is he's a policemen. WE'RE POLICEMAN IN CHICAGO. It's about us. It's a tough tough all right so you guys been together for a year now. Have you noticed nurseries become no. I don't really know August. I think sometime in August that's when we officially announce that we are together known you for over a year. We've been living. We've basically been living with her ever since yeah. How is it house living together? It's easy to say it's easy. I mean that's I think that's how you can tell. A relationship works when you live together. You feel like it's just fun. You know it is I was find that with Ashley and I one of the best things about our relationship is that I never really feel like I need time away from her. There's past relationships where I just feel like. I need to be away from this person for a little while just to kind of get some air but it never a lot of the times signs when I'm with Ashley there. Is this sense of being alone but not it's super yeah. I can understand that it's a great feeling though because there's there's really has not been a moment yet where I've thought I need to get out of the house. Sometimes I feel you are at that point but it's nice to know that you feel not out of the house. Maybe out of the room. I never feel like I have to Joel literally. Go on a fifteen minute run. I'm like when you coming back like what happened today. It did happen because I like jumped on a bed and hurt my neck so I haven't jumping on beds. Jump on the bed. Come on on Joe went for run and you thought this is a great opportunity for me to jump on the bed by myself. I jumped on the bed previous to the run and I hurt my neck so I couldn't go on around because it irritated my next two months talking about like MacAulay Culkin and home alone jumping on the on the video which I wasn't jumping on the bed and then I tried to leap over the table and almost broke my head what we do to free for freaking social media you know we're putting our body at jeopardy. I KINDA WANNA be fly on the wall in your household right now it's foot modified pillows jumping buds and pillows pillow pillow fights initially it was supposed to be a pillow fight and then went from a pillow fight jumping on the bed it turn to something else and I know jared. I need to start getting like our hearts up more at our guys. It was a nap speaking. I'm talking about healthy yeah we do. We get it on my take away from this guy. I don't drink lemonade. I JUST WANNA key. I just want to keep talking right now. The next show has really come off shell since we met him on. This was very hard. I remember when you first interviewed me. Oh my God it was you're the hardest interview I've ever had. I wasn't I wasn't easy but now the lowest they can't get him to stop talk. I like how how's how's your time on the Bachelorette school. He met the love of my life. Oh No not Bachelorette that was paradise paradise on even meet the Bachelorette. Did you talk to one. We'll stand up right yeah and she said that he was she. He was so nervous that it was actually a turnoff or which is why I didn't get through that night. Oh that's what she said. I remember that one. Oh maybe I'm putting words into Bekker's probably was art probably a turn off if we know well it was bedding couldn't have an ily flow ECOMMERCE. I'd love that Joe is nervous. I mean I think the first time we hung out on Paradise. He brought me this whole plate of fruits and vegetables and started like naming all the different aren't fruits and vegetables and he was so I was sweating and I knew that I was sweating and she called me out and it just kept coming and I'm like all my so cute. So this guy's well hydrated on the Bachelorette for Bekker's ice. I walked up to like so like what your pet peeve and then after I sent him like Oh my God. What did you say I felt like my grandmother? She was so confused. She's like what what's your pet peeve of like <hes> with people stand in front of me at the airport waiting for their luggage carousel and you have to say about that. I hate when people walk right in front of you and your luggage. It's like this is my lane Jerry. I agree with with you. You had a guy he said the other day the backdrop and he goes excuse me that's my bag and the guy literally just kept standing there. I mean it was L._A.. What did I expect him to be nice to me? That's in the wrong town through. My bag is faucet superior to your bag. That's a pet peeve that people at Disneyland the walk really slow. Oh yeah here's our bad. One thing that Joe's had to learn about being in a relationship with me is that my family like my dad works Disney so we're always going to Disneyland so we had to deal with the slow. Walkers at Disneyland have a serious conversation. We did actually have a very serious that I told them listen. I just I can't keep going at Disney. It's like I'm a grown grown. Insult why you should go jared wants a good Disneyland and especially Universal Studios Way more than we do will. They just <hes> the dress at world ride just open Orlando. He doesn't WANNA go around here. He wants to take a trip to Orlando. Just for the Imperial Orlando's as far better that is way better also Harry Potter. The Harry Potter land is way better. I mean I haven't been but I've heard stories. Oh the difference between got saying you're missing. The world is even way better than Disneyland to say it. I think everyone's thinking it's massive. There's four different parks Disneyworld Yeah Disneyland. It's like a little puddle I mean they opened up star wars his anyway. We don't talk anyway. Let's go back to yours. We'll find you the next question then I have the next one all right well. It's just going to say we're talking about who lose four weddings and a funeral so we're talking about weddings here. You guys have been together for over a year. You're in the bachelor worlds of being together for years pretty much growing old together. Is there an engagement you guys talked about the future kids engagement marriage. Yeah we actually or you guys just keep having pillow fights. That's part of the engaged which is a fantastic thing not saying a bad thing. That's part of the engagement there's GonNa be a ring inside the pillow and get hit in the head with it now but we I mean we talk about I mean I guess I feel like since we've met engagement has been part of the conversation which is weird bachelor world you know and we've also I think we're each other's longest relationship. We've ever been in so so really for both of you. A year is your longest yeah yeah year as my longest to. We've been together for years. We've been together for a year and a half. Well actually my longest say your math made no sense their longest relationship busy year. We've been together for a year and a half my real real relationship that was beyond a few months. My longest relationship is four years as a big one. That's a long time ago early twenties. It was like nineteen or twenty three Yep. You're so there will be an engagement in our future. If we last four years for the four years before the four year time line now really I mean for me. I would definitely want it to be a surprise. This is I'm hoping to do it on the next season of the bachelor but yeah I wanted to be a surprise and I feel like we are a main. We are very much in love. We have a great time. We were living together so comfortable trouble with the idea of engagement yeah I would say I mean it could come any day now but oh it's going to be a little bit. Is it happening right now so he's getting something from his pocket. If I play my last question for you guys kind of well in this in this Hulu show four weddings and a funeral the groom is kind of in love with the bride's best friend. Oh Dan and there's like a lot all of awkwardness at their wedding that you see at the end of the first episode and I'm thinking that would have been one of the circumstances is kind of this kind of how it is. He was like I don't do I'm not doing. I'm not going to marry you. How have you ever been to a wedding where Zenica to know what the Hell do not like I do I do not do I do jared? I don't I don't do I. I do know like I said I don't do. No actually no I got I got all right love. You love your sister. God Siva twin sister so this 'cause this is a whole conversation. Have you guys ever been to a wedding or heard stories where somebody either says I don't they back out the day of or somebody see who says I object. I actually did a whole podcast episode and if you're really interested in you go to my other podcasts and search it but we did a whole episode of people with objections at the alter and there were surprising. We got enough enough stories for a whole podcast episode. Joe Is nodding his head over here. I have a great one okay. I personally don't know the guy but I heard this case so the day of the wedding he found out like a week before the wedding that she was asleep with someone else. This is usually how it is okay so what he did was he got. He had pictures of them together like sleeping together so he presented a bunch of pictures printed out a bunch of pictures. Put them underneath all the seats us at the wedding. This is worse than the story. I was gonNA shine then as he was about to say I do. He called her out. I think they had a projector screen or something and boom and he said look under your seats. She's whatever Yada Yada Yada now and Yada Yada over sex is that a Seinfeld quarter on it is and and he walked out while the story through story that I heard was very similar when the bride was supposed to read her vows she ended up reading text messages between the groom and the mistress. That's awesome such an expensive. You just wait a free call now. We're still having dinner afterwards like he said they did. They win partied afterward like they took advantage of it. Yeah I mean you have to. I mean you only live once Yeah Yeah Yada Yada find out. Your spouse is cheating. Just do it at the wedding the wedding that's a whole Yolo cold crazy stuff guys well Joe Kendall. Thank you for joining us of course on this very special four weddings and a few episode of the podcast Yes in Enjo before you go. We heard something really cool that you're doing. Oh Yeah I have a clothing line that I will be dropping August. I it's called frown clothing. You can follow us on Instagram at frown clothing why FRY FRY FRY so frown we are doing the word frown upside upside down and we have partnered with the charity called smiletrain that fixes cleft lip so incredible and we have hoodies and t shirts and we're going to drop a bunch of different items and we're spreading smiles. Yes they can <hes> little positively in this negative social media world totally and I'm assuming everybody can find that on your instagram and you definitely find that on my instagram and on our instagram at Franck clothing awesome why was cleft lips a thing for you because because it went it just went hand in hand with what we are trying to do with just yeah what smiling and the works in small transit great charity. They're awesome awesome. We're excited August. I August I checked out or August seventh. I first week August. Keep everybody on their toes. Stay tuned guys August seventh. I know you guys are GonNa Watch four weddings and a funeral of this podcast just because you've just heard it talked about too much for you not to just break your curiosity and click on it when you see on Hulu D- under their original series relationships are forged and broken political scandals are exposed. London social life lampooned love affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral of course Duffy has a secret crush on Maya and Craig is trying to help a secret secret crush. Have I ever had a secret crush. I feel like all of my crushes in high school or secret. I never told my friends about them. What about you babe? Oh Yeah we talked about this on a podcast awhile ago about a crush you had in high school but you never had the guts to tell him that you actually like them. You know that was in Grad School. We'll for me. It was a high school together. I sent her flowers on Valentine's Day. I don't know if you guys remember that in high school you're able to like send little chocolates or flowers to like somebody's home room desk. I did did that and then I didn't have the guts teller I liked her and I was like oh I just I just wanted to have a good day. Years is such a cute little Chubby kid terrible you can catch all the drama in four weddings and a funeral a new wrong com series produced by Mindy Kaeling ailing premiering July thirty first only on Hulu four weddings and a funeral is a new original series focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship in career crises. One of the main characters Craig has a girlfriend named Zora who is an outsider to the College Fran Group. Oh that is always really rough when your friends don't get along with your new significant other or you don't like one of your best friends new boyfriends or girlfriends it. It is hard <hes> catch all the drama in four weddings and a funeral a new ROM com series produced by Mindy Kaeling premiering July thirty first only on Hulu. Hey guys as we are joined now by Heather Martin from Colton season. I'm sorry but you are notoriously known for having your first kiss with Colton yeah so now I gotta ask. How do you feel about couples practicing hang their wedding altar kiss practicing? Don't you feel you need to practice it. I've never heard of that. My entire life and I'm getting married in a little while. Won't you talk about Babe. We were talking about how you they're not pick me up there. That was a joke of course I'm not going he does now we joke now. He PECs me in real life and he goes okay. Let's go like pretending as if we thing to practice yeah never heard of that. I think Ashley Making this up. I WanNa make sure that we have air tasteful romantic kiss. What does that entail? What is tasteful real lip lock but no tongue okay? That's fine. We need to practice. We've done that no high Ming how long it'll be long lapsley perfect. Is that what you're saying. I think it should be rehearsed like once or twice insuring. I've never thought about that ever I just I thought kissing kissing what feels right in the moment babe if there's a couple of things that I tell jared if he were to do on our wedding pack me at the Altar and then put too much gel in his hair. I'd be you like okay. I'm good Lord in Heaven. Would you rather have would you rather have a pet or like him like go out like which one the roller go at it of course really shaking her head rather tour you'd rally coulter. Could you imagine seeing a bride and groom or any couple up there. Just give a peck as if they don't passionately love each other on the on their wedding day I'd rather so you like tongue saliva. I think back to peck is like do they like each other. When I watch wedding shows like wedding docu series I always say I have seen some sloppy gross kisses? The all say that no one likes it. No one likes it. Nobody likes true. You think like they actually like come on guys. It's your wedding day. I know you're getting married but at the end of the day let's show some emotion and passion here anyway. Hey Heather you. Were on Colton season. What are you up to now have you have you kissed anybody? Else hasn't ever asked me that I don't know I have not I have not she. I asked her. There's a couple of weeks ago. Yeah now well now on. It's it's it's obviously your choice it has to be you are striking beautiful woman. It's true. I'm saying that to be Nice Ashley. Don't kill me like it's true. No it's it's. It's always like this weird thing now 'cause I i. I'd like to compliment everybody but it's weird as complementing are great perfect as long as you don't me complimenting anyone it depends on how you he doesn't like because we'll be times. We're watching the BACHELORETTE and somebody will say like Oh that guy's sexy and ash should be like I know he is sexy and it's like you're not allowed to say sexy about any other man sometimes times. I feel like the slipped out things like when we were with our bachelor friends like I think I've said to like Ben and deny but you look great. You look so good. You look so good today off. It looks awesome. Your hair looks nice and I can see. She doesn't say your hair looks nice. He's like complement their looks or how good looking they are and it's like all right ash settled down see that gotta compliment thing compliments to a certain extent I think every person a lot of people feel the way I do yeah where you're in a relationship and you're all right. Take it back a little bit actually as though you kind of call them everyone in general right well I think actually and I have actually talked about this. Both we both make people feel good. Yes Lee telling them. I'm about like what we find very appealing but I think Ashley Ash God. I used to call me a flirt Jin on the show the alert virgin that was what the caller jen very flirty and you're also Kasan. I hope this doesn't sound bad. You're kind of a fan girl. Yeah that's not bad at all but when being a fan girl but when you see someone who you view as you know very good looking boy band or whatever you're a type is you end you end up fan girling over them and it's not like my role as host I know but it caused it. I'M NOT GONNA lie. It caused issues in our relationship early on. There's a couple of moments moments where he was like. I got I see the way that you look at him and it was like I know it's nothing would ever happen. It's not it's not that. I think that you would cheat on me or anything like that. It's more imagine if I looked at a woman the way you look at some guys I argued this this with jared. I think when guys look at girls like they think about their appearance when guys talk about a girl's appearance. It's more like oh she's hot. I'd like to bang her with girls is like Oh. He's I want to look at him. I agree I totally well. It's not a double double stamp. We're not as sexually oriented when it comes to like visuals. We need like a lot more to be like sexually attracted. If I looked at a girl the way say that you look at some guys and I know that it's not any like I know you love me and you find me very attractive. I tell you that you're the hottest for every single day. I know you're so supportive and so you hype me up all the time and I love you about that but if I looked at girls the way sometimes you look at guys just in terms of that that aw you you would you would you would kill me. I do think it's double standards. I'll be has has girl do that. All the time like actors musicians girls who are married in so happily married can just go off about like how much they have like a crush or like fan grilling over somebody but it's a double standard under but I think there is a certain innocence to our crushes that guys don't have and as it does feel different it it totally is like totally is but there's something different about it. There really is this is absurd is it's two against one room center. This is his biggest thing in life double standards in any <hes> facet of life whether it's you know <hes> towards women or towards men. I'm not saying what I do is right but I know that what I do is vary innocent. Oh I know it is too. It's just more of of course as any you saw your significant other kind of like in awe. Somebody else's looks you'd be like wow this feels like crap and they can't feel good yeah. It's not anything intentional also yesterday. We were watching once upon a time in Hollywood. I was drooling over Margot Robbie yet. I was like Oh my God her face. My surveys are totally but I do that with guys all the time. Yeah like drool over Tom Brady. It's not just the drill over guys more than girls though I know. Actually you know what's really funny. It's kind of a small story so I'm a big Rob Thomas Fan we were. We've become friendly long story. We were hanging out with them before his last concert in Boston and he he looked at Ashley in me and he's like you know the more I get to know jared the more I realized that all his like crushers our guys and he was like but that's what you're trying to say. Ah No I totally get back because when I think about it all my crushes our guys to guy it's like I you know obviously something like Margot. Robbie is stunning and beautiful but if you're asking who would I rather rather meet Margot Robbie or Tom Brady or even like Margot Robbie or lear nod to Capri. Oh it's not even a question. I WanNa meet Leo every day of the week and you know I don't know that's just like my way thinking because I'm like I think it's also I want to be like that yeah. You're going to be like that any already. Have your girl so like what's the point. That's also saying to Rub Thomas. We're one our hall passes. We can't have hall passes because they're tune attainable. Oh no attainable unattainable like we could just Housley run into them on the street or story where one degree of separation from them. You know what I mean. It's not even funny anymore because she told me who's your hall pass again. I think Joe Jonas is my number Rwandan Pass Milo Ventimiglia Amelia so every girl the RO raising their hands about Joe and Marlo obviously Joe Marlow Jerry not to mention. I just saw a trailer for a dog movie. That's coming out starring Milo look so warm and if there wasn't just enough women in the world that will go see that movie but it's interesting because like that could we know someone who knows him. Yeah yeah and it's like no that that could we could easily just meet him and then I should be well. That's my hall pass. You said it then when this when we start having this conversation which originated like a year ago when we first got engaged I was like don't use the Word Hall Pass because that would infer that we wanted to like bang for sure. That's not like a like. I have a celebrity pretty cross. I mean these are my celebrity. Crushes got hall passes but I will say that with Leo. I think you'd almost want me to get with Leo see People Miss Cantrell time because when I talk about like someone like Brady Oh you you totally make out Brady and it's like you personally know me because they're like Oh you love him. It's like one. There's different types of love the way I love that my parents not the same way. I love of my Ashley Tom Brady yes but it's I forget where I was going with this but we're going with all we know. There's anything wrong with that should make oh I would say that people WANNA make out Tom Brady. Oh totally get it. It's just not my preference. I WanNa grab a beer with Brady even though he doesn't drink beer. I don't think because he's a health nut. Does it does Yeah Chuck on somebody's story. It was where you did the he's choked up here in like half anyway. Wow we really off top. Only I had there. Who are your celebrity crushes? Oh we are next kiss. Since these are all like one degree of separations we can try to arrange this. Oh that's such a big question so much nobody that comes to mind like even just like a few names that you're like. Oh that person this a person like sense like forever like Cinderella Story like Chad Michael Murray Mary's a fantastic celebrity craze better than Chad Michael Murray. Is this somebody John John Hill. He doesn't look that much like them. They're both very attractive remember. I don't think John Paul Jones looks too much like she's saying. No you watch injury hill. Oh my gosh actually like an eye. Well watching it that that Chad Michael. Mary was the hottest I in the entire world I think so I really enjoyed chuckle. Chacal Chad Michael Murray in house of wax. Oh okay nobody yeah. Of course you haven't obviously Paris Hilton's in their parasail and there's a couple of people can't remember what else do I know Chad Michael Murray for him because I know he's from Cinderella story but he's in freaky Friday freaky Friday yeah. That's where I know him from. Jeremiah Murray is a great celebrity crush yeah. He's a good one all all right so he's married married. Oh biggest single crash and we'll have our e-mailers call in with connections but really amy's connected to everyone. I I should have come on before you like a ninety. Wendy's heartthrob girl or you come to three. She's twenty years old holy crap. I'm old now. She's like almost a decade younger than us. WHO's Justin timberlake probably her no <music>? I like Justin Timberlake but he wasn't like my ultimate like when I was about wonder sophomore in high school I kissed Harry Styles on the cheek and it was the best day my entire life so you should say that's your take. I'm him I stopped him to a golf course like I heard my friend was golfing and I heard us there and I literally like we had a math final. The next day and I was like I do not care stockton to the golf course got the picture circuit swollen cheeks my friend. I think decimalised like literally steals this day like I will like the feeling of yeah styles is great and he was solved is right. Super Nye says he was trying to run away from everyone but I found it like I was like I was going down him. No one else got a picture except me and my friend and we'd just like stock into his car. That's amazing amazing. How do you feel about his his casting as Prince Eric <music> think oh lauren called me like Sharia adding that it was too yeah it's efficient? I don't know I heard about it yet because I looked it up when Lauren called and I don't think it's right now. He was great and he's darker. If you guys saw that I didn't see it he he can act. I think that what's his name did a great job as Elton John in rocket eager tiger hanging Arkan Tom mm-hmm Eggerton Egerton and yeah but I still think Harry could have really killed that role. Okay well. We are going on and on and on. Thank you so much for joining us thank you that was great. Thanks guys thanks for. I know you guys are probably missing Ben very much. You're like wow actually really needs to hold this podcast down well. That's a busy man. He's been in Switzerland okay. He's has these companies to run and now he has something else on his plate. It is the bachelor live on stage and he is the host of this live tour. They're hitting up a bunch of cities all throughout the country. It's GonNa be kind of like a game. Show and Ben is hosting the whole Shebang. You can go get more information at Bachelor. Live onstage dot com four weddings and a funeral is a new Hulu original series focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship and career crisis. One of the main characters Craig has a girlfriend named Zara. WHO's an outsider to the college friend group? Actually you ever been an outsider. I feel like you've always been an outsider. You're not a bad way. What do you mean 'cause? I always like embrace myself full heartedly sadly. I don't think I don't think wholeheartedly. I don't remember stories of you having really of high school group. I don't have well an outsider dared. I it's called somebody who had a lot of friends in different groups. I never had like a core group now nine. I was really sad. It is the bachelor family so much because like my group of friends that we can all hang together. We all relate to each other. We all get along because other than that. I've always had like my friend here. My friend here my friend hammer from here for in here. I think you probably relate to this coming from the bachelor just like I was. I guess have you ever had do you ever disliked a friend's friend. Friends friends like your close with a friend and you're like I love you. They always bring another friend around that. You have to hang out with their friends but you don't like going to be honest because nobody sticking out. I'M GONNA say now no bachelor world. I feel like that's a given the bachelor world I like almost everyone well. That's fair. You're very sweet person and now you can catch all the drama and four weddings and a funeral a new ROM com series produced by Mindy caling premiering July thirty first only on Hulu four weddings and funerals a new Hulu original series focusing on the lives of four college friends and there are different relationships in career crises in the premiere the friends gather for a wedding. It's filled with drama and surprises why do unexpected things always happen at weddings. Oh my gosh chair now. We're at a wedding in January the brother the bride was trying so hard to be funny but he was totally routing on the groom and it was just straight. Cringe happens all the time capsule a drama in four weddings and a funeral a new ROM com series produced by Mindy kaeling premiering July thirty first only on Hulu. Okay we are joined by crystal. WHO's become really like a regular on this podcast like she's been on? Maybe three of the past six episodes I feel alike but I have a great question that I want to concentrate on with our segment with crystal because she just got married and because we're about to get married and because this has been something that jared I have bickered about when going to other people's weddings ooh a question and we asked the instagram audience this a couple of months ago. Do how much do you give a couple how much you give a couple of you're giving money just like you're giving money at a wedding as a gift. How much do you give her per person for a couple? Do you even do it by per person. I'm so confused by this because we went to a wedding a couple months ago not yours but somebody else's wedding. We went white beautiful but we went to another wedding before that a couple months ago and I was like Oh we should give them out nationally was like are you insane jared how cheap argue that so embarrassing and I was like what are you talking about. This is a one hundred dollars so a little bit more than I say that it should be to about about two hundred a couple and about one hundred dollars per individual you know I think it's so interesting because when you when you buy gifts you're you're buying gifts and I would spend probably at least a couple hundred dollars individually yeah <hes> when it's money it's so different because it's such a different category isn't it and <hes> actually haven't my are. We going to figure out how much money I'm giving to you at your wedding. We don't want anything this. This is very this is a perfect. Don't give perfect honest because so many of our guests actually gets mad at me every time says but I really don't want that many gifts just because I know actually going to slap me but I feel bad for everybody. The WHO has to pay money to fly out get a hotel. It's not cheap so and so the gift is kind of secondary the most important things we want people there yeah but it is it is nice to give and I think that Chris and I asked for we didn't really ask for a lot of presents. We asked for like money towards honey rier fun and I really enjoyed that because we actually create experiences and I know like when it comes to money. I think that it's interesting. I think minimum one hundred two dollars a person yeah I think so too and it seemed like instagram was I said with instagram integrate boy said around one hundred around two hundred and most people said around two hundred jared expected he thought like the norm warm was like less than seventy five dollars. You thought it was around seventy five dollars. I never I never even quantified it as per person. I was just like here's money for the couple. I never was like Oh. I got to spend at least seventy five bucks per personnel jared. Yes they gotta tables or plates that they like near your dinner costume at least fifty dollars. Usually I know so it's so crazy like years ago. When I first started going to weddings and how like my friends that started getting married I remember sitting down with her and my friend Ashley and going over? She's like yeah. It's like one hundred and fifty dollars a head and I was like wait what and she's like an was complaining about like people are escaping or people wanting to bring plus ones that we're in serious relationships and I never seen it from that bridal perspective or but I was like oh my gosh there is so much so much that goes into having guests there so gal R._S._V._p.. To the archery piece of big one shop according to what the registry of what the bride and groom were asking for and I would say I personally like doing gifts even if it's just like like experiences so like what you can probably expect from me as a little note that says what this will be smart because it's like an experience and I like having a little quantifiable contribution. No I liked your registry because it was it was like money for the honeymoon money for this lying Uber Dude at this kind of restaurant are those awful and pretty cool. What are you guys doing? We have a crate and barrel registered and then then we also have a honeymoon. We have like a house button. We're calling in our house fund because we always spend so much time together watching H._G._T._v. and dreaming about our Ideal House renaming that I feel like everything we do is like okay. This is going to go to our house one day every penny we save all right. This is going it's going to be that's a great question in Rhode Island. Well summarize probably L._A.. It's so expended. Taylor doesn't go far. You don't get your you know the Bang for the buck out here and it sucks. It's just like why would I pay for a house over here. It's like here's a two thousand square foot house two bedrooms one and a half bath two million dollars and it's like what I know I was looking. I mean I go to California two thousand twelve. I was looking on Zillow Jesper Fun all Ford anything like a server I saw in studio city four Hundred Fifty Square feet foot studio nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars and I was like I'm coming from Montana and Idaho and I was like is this what it is out here. Yeah you just turn right back around back in the Honda Accord. How long did you work in the hospitality industry for I worked in food and Beverage for twelve years? How high five little closer to thirteen I worked in it for my first job? Bob was fifteen <hes> bussing at cello. 's Chelsea in Warwick Rhode Island. No it was like a hometown like family five. I've been there yeah we went to tell us on the water different different anyway. I've worked for God eleven eleven twelve years in hospital but I know you treat everybody so well in your so personable with everybody and you can tell that you have a background working with people and I've always said everybody should be a college course to work in the food industry or any type of hospitality hotel because dealing with people teaches you kind of deal people. How did how to be a nice person? You you know to look at somebody in the is to respond to somebody I think even just to speak respectfully even to just I know as a server there many many moments where I just felt so degraded taking someone's order and I'm like. I'm trying to serve your family lady. Your kids are screaming. I'm here like helping out I was bartending to after the show at times and it was the worst feeling ever on because so many times people would come in and they'd be like Oh my God you're jared the bachelor what the hell like. They'll be like Oh my God. I'm so excited to me because if you're on T._v.. They immediately assume that you have fame and fortune and it was just sometimes really difficult because then it'd be like no I'm bartending here like can I get something to drink and it was just like this weird surreal moment. I think for them because they were like Oh my God i thought like what are you doing here. You're on TV. It's like that's not how reality TV works you know and so <hes> yeah whenever you saw today on Tipu good. Sometimes I remember not to be weird. I would get numbers all the time but when he was working in L._A.. When we first started dating and he was bartending because he really just wanted to bartend I wanted to work at work to go and like to have structure I use it like pick him up and I'd be like getting numbers and anybody hit on you? I love my guy getting hit on. I like knowing that I <music> have something that other people want so but you didn't have him at that time. I did know this right yeah. Oh so. When did you quit bartending? No like he came back to La stopped in like May I think Mayor Mayor June probably June this past year yeah just about a year ago but it just everything kind of picked up and everything was so busy and it was just possible. It was like oh I can work next Sunday next Tuesday and it was you know. Can I ask. How did it feel to put any resignation? Oh I've quit a few jobs. It's always the worst I've gotten better at it as I've done it more often than you realize that it's not personal. It's just I've never quit a job because I've hated the job. I've I've always quit because there is either a better opportunity or I had to leave or something along those lines so. I don't think I've ever really had that experience like I hate this place. I'm quitting it's always been have a better opportunity or just can't fit it in my schedule and that's what happened with so for me. My was different. My first job was actually as a dishwasher at a truck. Stop telling us that I used to walk two miles each way to go wash dishes and my mom when I was eighteen back when chocolate USA cost a nickel. I know it's a long I walk. I walk two miles to school. You kids you. Kids are so ungrateful and well and then at one point the school bus would like drop me off in in school and high school like my freshman year I would hustling. I grew up with a single mom who really couldn't ever ever provide. I remember on the Bachelor. I talked about in third grade. I bought myself a comforter of my bed because mine had holes my mom Mike would it couldn't afford it and I said Oh my birthday money McChrystal's money and while my feelings are buying candy bog is a beautiful comforter with like floral on it which is now hideous but I was so proud of always had this like ethics fix just really know that it's GonNa be me out there like me like providing for myself and I really cared that ethic throughout my entire life because of that so when I quit bartending I'm I would stand there would be bartending like my last year and I would like pull out the little receipt and look at the extra paper and I'd pull out a little customer pad and start writing down like my mission statement of like my job my career like my dreams what I was going to do all that was going to take and I would just like so connected with it and know that like when I was there I was so grateful to be working making money and I really enjoyed <hes> bartending was really really fun but I knew that I wasn't living my potential and so pardon me was just really like hell back and feelings just like a flower that just couldn't blossom as long as they stayed safe and so I quit also my mom bartender for twenty five years and I got to see her just never really go go after her dreams and it was hard to see that says a huge fear for me was that I would never amount to anything else I would only that only play it safe in the world and my dreams at goal like uncovered like still covered and and so for me to quit it was as huge huge moment for me. Grad quit to go make like minimum wage as a fitness instructor but for me it was it wasn't the job it was just that the expression of the soul and the work I was doing contributing to the world's going after what you want. I'm going to tell a quick story and Ashley's definitely GonNa hate me for this. I apologize well. There's a great story that I've heard that I've repeated Ashley many times that Jim Carey talks about and he talks about his father. He says my father was is the funniest Guy Funnier than me could have been a great comedian. He was scared because that seemed out of possibility and so he took a safe job as an accountant and when Jim Carey was thirteen years old his father got fired from that job and they had to do whatever they had to do which survive and he learned a lot of great lessons not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don't want to do so you might as well go after what you love and that's the line that's always stuck with me and it's something that I preach and I don't practice practice is it's you know because it is hard because you do have this idea of taking these jobs because it looks like it's their stability their security there but there really isn't there's no such thing as a safe job and so I give you a lot of credit for being able to get out of your own way and go after the things you want because especially coming from your background and I I think I can relate a little bit you see a lot of your friends so much potential and there's and there's so many things that they wanna do and then all of a sudden fifteen years go by there still bartending and there's nothing wrong with that at all. I was a lifelong bartender but I think there's a lot of people that wish they could do more than just all of a sudden they they fall into this comfort zone and then years go by and it's like holy crap. I mean it's scary to take chances. It's really scary. I think that I feel so grateful for going on the show the bachelor because I mean for for every one that we've met in our bachelor family we all just said yes to a crazy opportunity that was so out of the norm and we just went into it and we like surrendered into it and it's taken us on this river of opportunities and either you pull over because it's tumultuous few to handle or you just continue to write it and you then you learn the attitude that you want when you're on the river like is it hard. Is it uncomfortable or is it like an exciting adventure and you can see let's around the bend. Totally I remember before we went on the show. I'm sorry now I'm on a tangent. I'm sorry actually we're wrapping. I'm not I love the conversation. I just want to say one last thing because it's along the same lines that you're talking about when deciding fighting going on the show or not and I remember having a moment to myself thinking why would I not go on the show and it was because I was scared I was scared of what people would think of me and it brought me back to another quote which was and people make decisions based out of fear all the time and they disguise it as practicality and I knew that if I didn't do the show it was because I was making excuses and Israeli because I was scared and so I ended up going on the show and it worked out well because now engaged your only real real risk in life. That's not sure I take risks all the time. I don't take them all but I take some risks. What was the last rescue took? I mean I'm in L.. A. K. Yeah. That's a fair affair together. I was at risk that you live in L._A.. The Gel on the wedding day that's going to be a big. That's awesome well. I want to take there's opportunity to just call to make jared feel very awkward I he his dream is to work in movies and this is his next big Liz a leap that he would love take but has no idea how to get into this so i WanNa know of any of our listeners wanna email ben and Ashley at Iheartmedia Dot Com and just let us know if there's any opportunities at any movie studios or anything where Derek involve himself further in the movie industry yeah he's looking at me with total judgment right now but no we all have the three of us how this conversation the other night did and we were talking about jared living on his dreams and owning it and being unapologetic about it tells right here right now your dream own it. I WANNA go home. Tell us you gotta you. GotTa gotTA claim out there. You're putting it out there. I don't know Nope <music> deal sure work. I agree right per cassidy direct act any of that yeah I just loved films. I love the idea of creating a story from scratch and creating a world and characters and <hes> and really telling a compelling story and so that's why I love movies and I love the there's just a it's the the creative side of it. That really gets me anyway. We don't have to talk about this. We're talking about four weddings and a funeral. That's what we're talking. You guys have any jobs out there. Good Lord it's Ben and Ashley at Iheartmedia Dot Com anyway okay rapid. I also just wanted to throw in there some things that I felt about <hes> gifts for weddings I think it also has to do with how far and how much you travel to go to the wedding. I think it has to do with how close you are to the couple. There's all different factors in there like jared and I went to this wedding in Nashville. We spent so much money to get there and your ears well worth. It isn't nice frontiers. Oh you definitely wouldn't we didn't give as much as we normally would have because it was such an expense I think yeah of course and everybody has a factor then which is why I want people the factor in when they come to our wedding yeah totally I feel the exact same way to people who are coming in from flights coming in from likewise yes now her stock or so. If you're coming in for one of our flights or or you're just GonNa Watch four weddings and a funeral at home on your couch is easy new Hulu original series that focuses on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship in career crises aided the premier the friends gather for a wedding that is filled with drama and and surprises Miami as up at Easley's wedding. Why do unexpected things always happen at weddings? There's always something or wedding planner is like all these horrible things are going to happen and you're not even GonNa know about them because I'm going to take care of it completely and and then I'll tell you the next day what happened measly Yeah Jerry. Do you still want to you. He wants to kill me for for what no continue all right well. I will make sure to inform you guys of the all the crises that have been behind the scenes at our wedding but right now you can catch all a drama in four weddings and a funeral a new ROM com series produced by Mindy Kaeling premiering July thirty first only on Hulu for weddings and a funeral is a new Hulu original series focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship and career crises. The price of the wedding aren't the only drama we see Maya breaks up with her boyfriend. Thankfully Ainsley makes a grand ran gesture to show her support. It's always great helping a friend who's experiencing heartbreak or personal crisis. I really think it matters how much time intentional time you spend to listen in these moments. It's not the grand gesture every time even though it's nice as as we watch the show but it's just about the intentional time spent amongst people showing love and support to each other even in the darkest moments catch all a drama in four weddings and a funeral a new ROM com series produced by indicating Premiere July thirty first only on Hulu. We'll thank you for joining me for this. Extended podcasts very very long one that I thought was going to be a short bead but it was so good because everybody loves tyrel wedding so much watch my co host to my future husband of course my almost husband cows down the Mary. Life is the best you're going to love it and for people who say it doesn't feel any different. They're wrong. Okay it feels it feels so frigging awesome. That's so it's really great. Thanks crystal all right guys. Thank you so much again for feedback on.

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Hot Girl

"I'm Jennifer Fisher Angela. Kinsey we were on the office together. And we're best friend and now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories. That only two people who were there can tell you where the offs offs ladies there. We are here. We are here and we're excited because today we're talking about hot girl. Hot girl all season one episodes six written by Mindy caling and directed by Amy Heckling. I was really excited to meet Amy Heckling. You know growing up as I might be a told told the seventies no judgment the Oldie sitting here now and she directed fast times at Ridgemont high and clueless Lula Lula so I was excited. Did I remember there was a bit of a buzz. Yeah there was a little bit of a coming in very excited I. I didn't know how to make small talk with her. And guess what I failed. All right you WANNA hit us the Synopsis Alright. Synopsis Of this episode Michael Allows a woman selling purposes to set up in the conference room for the day and Michael and Dwight compete for her attention. MHM very simple very simple yet so loaded cam. Oh this was a really a big PAM episode. It really was so should we start with some fast facts then and I know you want to know my fast fact number one. This is the first episode written by Mindy Failing. Yes Mindy Kaeling so smart so funny. And she was one of our most prolific perfect writers on the office. She wrote a total of Jenna Ready. What twenty two episodes? Wow I know. That's like she wrote an entire season of the eye now now because the seasons usually about twenty to twenty four episodes. I've a fan question about mindy. All right this is from bear high bear yes. Bear asked this episode. It was written by Mindy Kaeling. What was it like to work with her as a writer versus an actor? Oh bear good question. I know you know what I loved. When Mindy was the writer of the episode because the writer of the episode on our show would stay on set all week and produce their episode with the director? So they kind of worked very side by side with the director yes and they were sort of the liaison back to the writer's room. I love that our show does not all shows do that. And I really think you'd benefit from having the writer of the episode on the set that with you we'll mindy. It was so easy to make mindy laugh like she was so ready to love everything you were doing. You were filled with such confidence when mindy was is on the set and she also was really good on the spot coming up with new jokes because that was another thing that the writer of the episode would do they would pitch you. Improvisation among the spot. Yeah and many for me. Someone with like an Improv background. I love being able to pitched him in because she's so smart so I could like say. Hey many could I try this and then and she would just instantly be like. Oh that'd be great or how about you do this like she was such a a wonderful creative collaborator. I always felt like mindy was such a big advocate for the character of Pam as well I think she was. In the writer's room pitching storylines for Pam and this was a very centered episode. As we said Pam has feelings jam feeling him allow the feeling she does. This leads me into my second fastback. I was texting with Mindy about this episode operation and she told me something. The original title of this episode was perce girl. Oh do you kind of remember that I actually do because I feel like I have referred to this purse girl a few times because it's is in my brain. Yeah she also told me that. Her original draft of this was thirty nine pages which is a lot because usually the number of pages that a script ripped is. That's how many minutes of screen time it is so her script. If we did it exactly as written would've been thirty nine minutes which we would not have been able to really wish we could have done. I and I wish we could have filmed all forty pages of that instead of twenty to twenty two minutes. I remember they used to have those very long table drafts and then they would cut a bunch of stuff out and they would make take something called the candy bag. Yeah and those were all of the cut scenes or they were additional takes on scene so whatever talking head wound up in the script there would be I five different takes on that talking head in the candy bag And so we would sit down to do our talking heads and they would say all right. We're going to do the scripted one. But then we're going to do three of them from the candy bag. Oh I remember going to talking head and they handed me three pages of all sizes like right in the minute. I'm like okay. I'm going to have to have a photographic memory memory. You have to really be on your toes. That's something that it kept us on our toes. Sure I loved it I loved it too and then they used to let me play around in like sort of like put my spin on it too which was always fun. All Right Fisher. What else you got all right? I think it's time to talk about Amy Adams okay. I have a lot of note cards here in front of me. I see and a lot of them. Have the words amy or amy. You told me when you're ready because I've got a note card ready to go well. This is our third fast fact. Okay Amy Adams was the purse girl committee told me that amy was her favourite from the very beginning. This is who she wanted to cast as the first girl from her audition but something that I think people don't realize is that Amy Adams Adams wasn't amy Adams when she was cast as the purse girl she became Amy Adams later eater. And that's an interesting story. Actually because we filmed this episode in the fall of two thousand and four. But they didn't start airing until the spring of two thousand five and that fall. She was nominated for an academy award for her role all in June bug right when she did this episode of the office. No one had seen June bug yet because June bug K.. Mountain August of two thousand and five. Yes and I remember her first day on set we were talking and I was like. How are things going? She's like well. You know it's good. I mean I was on a show on. CBS Call. Dr Vegas but they like they let me go. Oh that's right she was like a Kinda Linux got fired and I was like no and she was like yeah. I was really down and I was bummed out but then you know I did this little indie movie called June bug and I feel so good about it and it's it's GonNa come out later in the year and I was like. Oh that sounds great. Yeah let me build you up. And she was and she was but amy is one of the nicest people. She's so so sweet. Oh I loved amy. It was so fun working with her There were a lot of questions from fans ends asking if we planned to bring this character back after we shot it will. We didn't think we were going to have a show right. There were no real plans to bring her back but then when the show got picked up they wanted to bring her back but now she was Academy award nominated a Adams. Hopefully you can get her back and we did. She came back for two more episodes. Yes she was such a great foil to for Pam and Jim and all of that. I love watching that play out. Not only was amy Adams Super Nice onset in just like such a pleasure to work with but I don't know probably the two years later I ran into her. I had a friend visiting from Alabama. And you guys. I don't ever go well so my friend was coming in town and I was like. Oh I'm going to take her somewhere. Fancy that Hotel Chateau Mont.. That's fancy we'll go there because I just had it in my head Hollywood fan. It was the the anti place. Yeah I mean it's like half an hour for my house. It was such like hall but it was like No. I'll take my friend from Alabama there so we went and we're having dinner and Amy Adams Adams was at a table and she sent over two glasses of champagne to my friend and I and I was like. Oh this move amy Adams and they will. I was like who's this they were like. It's from Amy Adams and she waved and then she came over and we chatted. Amy Adams is just a class act. I have a funny story about how people think that we look alikes uh-huh so she and I were both at this work party thing I can't remember exactly. I think like honoring directors in the industry and we were both there and my my friend came up to me and he said I am so humiliated right now and I said what happened he goes. I just went up and bear hugged amy Adams and said agenda. You look beautiful because he mixed us up in this people have this thing where they think she and I look a lot alike. We really don't look anything alike in person. Although although I guess I just told a story about someone who makes us up in person I mean there is a resemblance she's perfectly cast because there is a resemblance and you're both like beautiful ladies. Thanks that their resemblance. I feel like we could place sisters. You could all right Hollywood. You heard it here first. That's that's I guess. That's how I talk when I'm talking Hollywood. I guess it would be where Hollywood this is. Angela Kinsey I don't love it. Rethink your search. Your Hollywood voice leading work on accent. Oh Oh I only would know go. That's Australian. What would that drug Scottish? What is happening? I can't do accents and I also can't sing. I can do Australian but I grew up overseas. And all my best friends Rosie's he's saying right now. I'm just sitting here talking to Gina. We're GONNA talk about hot go. Yes really good and well thanks. Thanks so much I'm shocked. I'm genuinely impressed. Okay okay okay. That was so good. But you're Hollywood voices and now I know whenever I'm trying to be slick. I am just not not program to be slick. This is true about you know before we go to a break. Since we're talking about Amy Adams and how wonderful she is both on and off set. We have to tell the story about how she helped us meet Meryl Streep Oh my God. Oh my God I cannot believe that on a note car. I can't believe it with me. I out. No I got here. There were donuts got excited. I forgot okay so one year we got to go to the Golden Globes so the office had been nominated needed and I have to say first of all Angela. I am so grateful that I got to go to these award. Show things with you I know. Well here's the thing. We didn't go to fancy parties because we're not fancy people. I'm intimate dinner party person. Well I like a small group. I think the fancies parties I'd ever been to just like my one on one of my friends would have a big wedding but I am so glad that I got to navigate all that stuff with you because I would normally kind of freeze up at something like that but I was there might be a. We would have a couple glasses of wine. We would sometimes get a little while because one thing we should say is we were not allowed to bring a plus one well. We were not big time enough. No I felt like we were barely invited. Our Show was nominated. We'll did feel like that will well first of all wait wait wait. What do you remember where our table was very far away from was behind a pillar to I remember that I had to sort of lean we know all the way towards Brian's lap to see the stage yeah so the Golden Globes are really cool because they have awards for both movies as an television so cool Moose as TV? People we were in the room with Angelina Jolie suddenly and Brad Pitt and we were all. Those people were nowhere near them though. They weren't down at the front and we were in the nosebleeds. But Hey we were in the room while I will say. I remember going to the bathroom and Angelina Angelina. Jolie passed by. She took my breath away. I shot well now. She is from the God. I get that that is a movie star. Turned earned me because we were like in line for the bathroom and she just sort of. It's like she glided. It's actually floated past us and you turned to me and you go now. That's a movie star. I saw like an old lady. Now that is a movie stars like I don't disagree so German. I are not to people that are invited to a lot of fancy parties and also if there are going to be two dorks at a party chances are they're us that's just us anywhere on some real dorky thing. We are just kind of dorks. Even if it's just like at our neighbors Barbecue I was glad I got to go to those parties with you because I knew you felt as awkward at them. I did but you way braver than I am. I I have a little bit of my mom's voice in my ear and my mom would say if you are at a fancy party you need to meet the fancy people well you need to use it as an opportunity unity come on go say hi to the people you WanNa say hi to so I always have that in the back of my head like this is my only chance to what Knob. Yeah meet. Meet whoever I've always wanted to meet. I guess but what do you how do you how do you get into. The conversation is always the mystery out at this Golden Globe. I'm starting to I love. We had our in. We look across the room and we see Amy Adams. Talking to Merrill Street we lean around the pillar were sitting behind hind. And we see Amy Adams you should know at this point. We'd been sitting at our table for quite a while we hadn't got up and mingled other than we went to the bathroom and saw Angelina Jolie walk by and we didn't didn't say a word now and did not speak do. We did not speak to her so generals like there's Amy Adams in Angola she's talking Meryl Streep we know Amy Adams. Yeah we can go talk to Amy Adams we know her she likes yes and then maybe we'll get to meet somebody stirs. Yeah we'll just basically glomming onto amy Adams was our plan and general was like come on. Let's go and I was like nope. Don't WanNa go not not going not going and you really like your like anti hold you from the table. I said we are meeting. Meryl Streep we're doing this. This is a story for my mother. Come on and and then she said and you've got to be quick. You have to be quick because what if they want to baby stops talking to her. Yeah let's go and you said well. What are we going to do? What are we going to say? Where do we how do you walk up to them? What are we going to say so I was like? Here's my plan. We are just going to walk up to them laughing. What just laugh just as I said what what it doesn't matter it doesn't matter to them? Here's what if we just walked up laughing. We would look cool like we're like I don't know what I thought into. I don't I don't know I just knew. We had to seize the moment so we did well. I said I basically was like in shock. I was like wait. What what and then I look Jimmy was like four strides away like committed? You're like come on and then I sort of half ass committed behind you and we did just us that we walked up to Meryl Streep and Amy Adams laughing and right at that moment a house photographer came by and snapped our photo. So we have have a photo of us and it looks like we are having a hilarious conversation with Meryl Streep and Amy Adams well actually clarify it. Looks like you and amy and Meryl Streep or having a great conversation. But because I- lagged behind you a little I was late getting there and I just looked like I'm walking alone laughing laughing. I'm like a good three paces behind you laughing to no one. And you're laughing with Maryland. Amy But then. The lights like flickered because it was can't commercial and we didn't even get to talk to them. I did get to say to Meryl Streep I did get to say it's such a pleasure to meet you. I am a big admirer of your work and I was. I mean I mean I just loved her performance. In Kramer vs Kramer studied a lot of her work. And so as like a theater Geek actor person. We've talked a lot about about my love of actor. Prep that was a big moment for me. Well I'm glad you had that moment I did not meet her You didn't know I didn't meet her because they they were dimming the lights and so the like by the time I got there I was just like well. She's one of my best friends now. That moment he never spoke to her game never or spoken to her again. My guess is that Meryl Streep doesn't quite remember that moment. The way we do I know well we have a photo of it. We all right guys. WE'RE GONNA go to a break and when we come back we're going to break down the hot girl episode. 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I love it the next scene when Dwight is standing over Michael Shoulder and the talking head it begins as a talking head and it reveals that Dwight has been like hovering. That's the first time we did that. But then we will do that many times in the show. It's one of my favorite. Things is how Dwight stands over Michael Shoulder. That's that's also when Pam comes into office say someone wants to sell handbags and my goal is totally against it of course until he sees how attractive. The woman is a lot of people wrote in and wanted to know. Where did these purses come from that? She's selling so called Phil Shea are prop master yes. He told me that he bought them all in downtown. La Oh at the markets downtown. Yes Oh the knockoff. Purse Berg yes because some of them looked really nice but also they looked a little like pleasure. I don't think anyone kept them. I didn't keep one did you. I didn't know we could. I probably would have taken one. It was early on when we weren't brave enough to ask to take things. Yeah no later eight or when the show wrapped I did take Pam's everyday purse. It's something that had been sitting even if I didn't use it in a scene at sat on Pam's desk or it it was in her drawer. Yeah so I have that. I Have Pam's everyday purse that she had for most of the season. I didn't keep a fancy purse. There's the scene in where Michael has to refer to katy the purse girl as Pam. Six Point Oh This was not an improvisation. I have the script title. I know I'm hot girl. I have all the scripts from season. One I saved them speaking of saving things and I looked it up. She is like the improved version of me like she. It is as your best friend. I am not going to let that slide. She is not but in this episode. They had really judged her up she had a push up on in her hair or even on our plane. Day Amy Adams is Jenna six point. Oh she is. She's okay with me. I'm not no well okay. Well whatever tonight I have not no I think you know. I think it's a funny story but as your best friend I'm not going to let us Amy Adams as a better version of you. It's like we look similar. But then her nose is a little dainty her and her cheeks are a little rosier and her hair is just a little brighter red. You know what I'm saying is just like she just turn ended up a couple of notches on the dial. And you get Amy Adams but if you're creating me right you get to me and then if you turn the more notches it turns into a MIA. She's she's she's Disney you. She kind of issues the Disney Princess version of me. Yes Angela de of card. Because you're handling a note card right now. I feel like you want to say no. I mean I it's in your hand a. and then you're touching them. What is it that you want to say? Are you annoy that. I'm touching I'm giving you and I'm giving you a chance to speak. Oh who think you watch that one. So it's British when you offended. Oh God knows stop stop I was just GonNa say that Michael Scott has a talking head that I love so much and these are just one of these talking heads that they're in every episode and getting to Rewatch them. I'm I'm like Oh my God. That's brilliant is at the small businessman. I if things that he reads I love that. He said he loves American way magazine Inflight Magazine and and then he goes. They did a great profile. Endorse Roberts and where she likes to eat when she's in Phoenix. It's just made me laugh so hard because I read those I just want you to know American Erkin Airlines whenever I fly with you get the American way out and I looked to see where people eat it made me laugh so hard and then he's like illuminating. I love those magazines too. I read them and you know actually one of the coolest things never happened to me. Is that one time I had an article in in an inflight magazine. Asked ask just like the doors Roberts thing I got profiled I would be so excited. Why no no? No I told this story about playing poker in Scotland and Oh wait wait. I know this is a total tangent. Guys I'm sorry I have to take on a tangent because I love this story. Tell the story you have to tell it okay. First of all it makes you sound way cooler than you are. No offense. I kind of made it sound like my biggest rockstar moment of my life. Eight hundred person. Okay so I had no I. I know you're going to tell that story but I I need to see that. Invite magazine to you. It was for United Okay magazine and they had this story where they wanted people to tell will the craziest ways they've ever fought jetlag. Okay so Leeann. I have this low romantic trip that we took to Scotland. This was before we had children. I remember this because you told me you were going and I was like well. It's not a lot of days. Yeah we only had five days because we had a one week hiatus from work. This is what people without children can do. Yeah I can just get off to Scotland for five days so we we're gonNA spend two days and Edinburgh Okay and then we were going to go into the countryside for the other three. Today's Do a tour of a you know like a Scotland factory and every really fun so we get there and we thought we will take an overnight flight we will sleep deep on the plane and we will arrive at noon rested and ready to tour Edinburgh. You're right this did not happen. We did not sleep on the plane and we landed did it was noon and we were thinking. How in the world are we going to make it through this whole day? We were posted so tired. We're touring castle. Aw were walking. Along little shops. We bought some hats and at a little hat shop. I know I know I'm raising my hand because Jenny. You texted me and I remember you saying we're so tired we're going to try to power through. We're going to try to power through so we don't fall asleep. Yes then you can't sleep in the middle of the day then you're then then you're the whole five days yours is going to be sleeping during the day and up at night so it's five o'clock and we are so exhausted just so incredibly exhausted we thought here's is what we're GONNA do. WE'RE GONNA go into a little pub We're GONNA get a bite to eat. We're going to have a drink. We are GONNA force ourselves to stay awake until seven PM. Am and then we're going to go back to the hotel and fall asleep right. That was your plan. Go to the pub state power through and then go to bed. Correct we get to the pub. We order our drink drink and we see a sign that says poker tournament starting at six. PM All right. I have to interject here so my bff Jenna Fischer is is a flip in fantastic poker player. I don't know if I'm fantastic laying. Okay no you're fantastic. And I once went with her to the celebrity poker showdown story for later. But she's really good at poker. I came in second place. You I mean not behind Keegan Michael Key one. That's a big flex. Because you beat Michael Ian Black who. He's still tells me that. You beat him importer and I mean you guys. I also just want to say all of this is before I had children barely play poker anymore. I can't stay awake for anything. Thank you but you are really good back in your day lady back in the day to day before my youth in your youth. You're quite the poker player. I think I can win in poker with like two pairs of threes and I have all the bravado pairs of threes. Well it'd be four of a kind you can can win poker okay so see. This is the problem but I have no idea what I'm doing and I think sometimes I mess up a table just because I have such confidence and I have nothing and then people are like. Oh Okay Sony makes that's the best strategy adage okay go you're in zone outlier in Scotland trying to stay away hired. We sign up for the poker tournament. Lee My husband. He plays poker as well. We're thinking here's what we'll do. We'll join the poker tournament at six PM will be done at seven. This is how we're gonNA stay awake that extra hour poker and then you're going to go to bed go to bed. We entered the tournament. We start playing. We start winning. You're like the two Americans who came in and now you're kicking butt in this pub in Scotland so much so that we make it to the final table. What time is this? How long have you been there now? It is now midnight. Jenna we are out of our minds exhausted. I don't even know what I'm doing. It's probably why I was doing so well because you're so loopy you're playing the best poker of Your Life Leeann. I are both at at the final table. And we'll keep checking in with each other saying like should we quit a couple times. Lee went all in all in and he would win. Finally I get down to the final two two a m. and it's you and one other person one local Scottish Scottish Guy Ella who who played every week in the tournament and here you are this American tired onerous vacation and I won. You won the whole thing I won. I won the whole thing. I one two hundred pounds were amazing Leeann. I couldn't believe it. Everyone he wanted to Pablo is a little bit like say her. Did you get your name up on the wall. Yes I got my name on the leaderboard and I was supposed to come back for the championship. peon ship table. That was happening in several months. Of course we all knew I wasn't going to show up so I think the runner up guy got to take my place and then we went back to the hotel and we slept so well and I suffered no jet lag for the rest of that trip so this story in the United Magazine and I was proud to be in the Michael Scott. That would have been a heck of a read. I got copies I sent them to. My mom is not them to my the in laws. I have one at home. I want you guys to know I woke up back here in the US of A.. And I had a text from my best friend in Scotland and there was a photo. Oh of her in a hub wearing my hat that I had bought by the way wearing your head and like smiling and I was like what is going on and you're like I want a poker tournament I was like you're supposed to be sleeping. Yeah but that's I mean truly that is like maybe one of my proudest moments that's a pretty rockstar moment. Lady thank you. Oh well we should probably get back to the episode this is the cringes episode of the office. So far not ever I mean Scott's tots but it's crunchy but diversity as pretty cringe too but the whole scene where Michael talking to Katie about coffee. I was dying. I was dying what I was also so weirded out when he was like you know I'm trying to do here is just break down walls. I just tried to break down walls I was like what is he talking about. Oh my goodness she plays as it so well and then that scene with Brian over my shoulder asking me. If I'm jealous. I laughed so hard during that scene. What was difficult Cole was that I was supposed to sit there and be doing my work? And he is hovering over me and then insulting me and I could not get through it. Every time he would start his sentence. It would make me laugh. That was the scene that I probably laugh. The Mostyn was shooting this episode. And this leads me into a fan question from Delaney. uh-huh did you guys ever get offended by the scripts personally like in this episode. How Pam is compared to Katie? The whole time Jonah. Did you take that personally. I didn't well well. I didn't either because I felt like a lot of our comedy was. It was a little bit of a free for all like everyone was going to have a moment. You know where they were sort of the butt of the joke but yeah never militias. It was just it served. The scripted served the story. I never took offence. Also I feel like so much of comedy and Comedians begins is self deprecating in nature and so were a group of people who are pretty honest with ourselves. I think yeah. It wasn't offensive to me. It was also. It was the the idea that has happened to all of us where a more attractive person walks in the room and is getting all the attention and then you feel you feel jealous list but I enjoyed this episode. I loved playing with all those feeling I was going to say. It was a lot of human moments for Pam just seeing how Jim was affected and how that affected her And it was fantastic. I thought you did an excellent job. I have on one of my note cards. Where is it Jenna? What does it say? Jenna was brilliant. She a one thank you and you're so good I don't WanNa like get us off your I know you have your list lady. But the moment when she's like what are you going to do. And he's like Oh I think actually I'm GONNA see Katie. The look on your face as pam what you did with your eyes in that moment was so amazing. It's interesting you know what I I gave myself as a direction in that moment in my head. What was when he tells you that? Do Not Blink. Your eyes just stare at him. You're you're not affected by that and smile because that is great new. Oh that's great. That was her way of trying to not show how she was feeling but then show it shows everything. Yeah it showed everything was so great the scene with Katie Michael and toby. Oh brutal I watched the deleted. CBS's time you did yes so I still haven't gotten a DVD player. How'd you do it? I found him online. Okay I don't know if it was illegal site that I went to I went clicked on so many things that took me there so I don't know I probably have some inappropriate things on my computer now. No I'm just saying I click. I clicked away but anyway I watched the deleted scenes. There is a longer version of that scene. Where Steve I know is just riffing on that whole idea of sad sack toby and it just it is so cringe? Oh I want to go back and watch. It's really good. So what you see in the episode is just like three seconds of that moment stories like your divorce right sleeping in your car. I loved the the you slept one night in your car right made me laugh out loud so good for a long time impulse. In Paul's reaction is so perfect in the deleted scenes. Michael goes off with him for like minutes. What's so amazing? Is that Steve and Paul. All in real life are both of our very gentle qui- and kind people on the set and they have to. Well I guess just Michael the house to bully toby but Stephen Paul's real life relationship is so opposite that yeah nobody was. Oh in Katie's like where am AM I. ooh I have some Kinsey today right. Let's hear him at eight minutes. Fourteen seconds you pam gets up in a huff from Roy and leaves her salad Alad on the table. Yeah you didn't pack up your Tupperware or anything and you had a juice box. What are you I was just been? I had just been insulted did he. Just he just said we're dating and I had to say we're not dating were engaged. I'm very hurt and I walk away. What do you want? And here's mysel- it. It might deal with it. Have you never been at a meal and been offended and just left your plate. No so if you're in a fight with someone over dinner Yes yes you you get up with your plate and you go rinse it off and put it in the dishwasher right. I'm GonNa Bust my plate going to leave my. I would love to see. That would have been so weird if she had taken her food with her. An odd choice. Does I think it would be funny if she was mad as hell and had to pack up her salad. I have a thing that I wanted to share about PAM's engagement ring into Roy the props people when you have to be married on a show. They'll bring you a whole tray of rings to pick. Doc Yes you get to pick your engagement ring and your wedding ring now. These are based on selections that have been pre edited by the director and Producers Right. So you can't just pick like honking in ring right. It has to match your characters life. Yes but they give you a variety of things to choose from and you have to try them on different sizes so when they gave me the tray of rings I picked a diamond cluster ring as opposed to a diamond solitaire and I had it in my mind. That Pam has always always been hurt. That Roy didn't get her more of the ring she wanted. which would be more of a diamond solitaire? More of what Jim is is going to give her later right but she's a polite person and she thinks this is not right to be offended by the ring or to not like the ring things so she had a very graciously. Accept this ring but I always felt like her opinion of Roy was that he didn't put enough effort into getting to know her. Or what she you would like. or He didn't put a lot of effort into the engagement ring or the relationship or the relationship but that the ring is really a symbol of his lack of effort and his lack of knowing in her and every day. When I would look down at that diamond clustering it would just poke at those wounds that she has in her relationship with Roy and so when he says boyfriend? That's another way that she's like that's right. This ring makes me feel like we're not engaged. I've been wearing this diamond diamond. Cluster rings for three years. And it feels like a thing that you give your girlfriend. It doesn't feel like what you give someone. When you're proposing at least for Pam does that make sense it does and it also makes me sad and now I take back my salad myself? How hurt she weighs history there she got clean up a salad and that Momento? Yeah no in that moment. She's like three years three years. I've sat here and you have no. That's what's raging inside her and this is probably one of the biggest displays of hurt and anger that Pam has ever had yes. She doesn't let it out. No Okay I take back to selling marking up. Okay thank you very much but do you want to explain to me why at nine minutes twenty three seconds e is back on Jim's desk. Wow Wow yeah. Et and his blue robe back on Jim's desk so he was on the desk and then off. Oh Sam's GonNa bring up. Et looking at so. I make suggestions wait for it. Okay let's just keep talking Fiji where. Oh Yes yes I see it I see it. What is that no no? We need to find out from John Shea. We will techs John and Phil and get an answer. I've fan question okay. This is from Mary Beth. The scene were Dwight is talking to Katie about buying a purse. When Jim and Pam Start awkwardly narrating the interaction was that scene scripted or Dijana just playoff? Whatever rain decided to do? It was improvised. We were on set and we had a little scripted scene and then it was suggested that we narrate what was going on. I think it was John's idea so rain knew that we were going to do that so he started doing all kinds of crazy stuff like slammed on the jazz. Yeah exactly the to give us weird things to say and I really froze I. I am not a great improviser in. Like comedy. Improv sketch comedy. I took a couple of those classes and I always really tanked froze. I'm very good at improvising in a specific character but not if the specific character has to be funny and say clever things that's not my forte. It's okay lady in. Oh you're good at it the you that was your thing I love it. I know I love it just to keep us on plot at this point in the episode. Michael Buys A starbucks coffee machine. A thousand dollars thousand dollars. This is going to be the incentive for the salesperson who sells the most but then he unwraps it and makes katy the purse girl a cup of coffee coffee. He's so creepy that he's used this coffee thing to flirt with our. He's so creepy with it. I love his line though where he says. Dundee Flynn in the eighties. Before they knew how bad cocaine in was mandated. They move they move paper so funny. I also remember the scene with Michael and Dwight Michael Tells Dwight that he's going to be giving Katya right home and Dwight asking if he loves her. Do you love her. You love her. I remember they could not get through that scene. The two of them Were cracking each other up. It went on forever. Not only do we live way is like do you love her. I love that Michael. I don't know maybe I can't say I can't say I don't know yet. I don't know the two of them are ridiculous. And then you have Roy who decides he's going to try to make up with Pam and he decides to start tickling you while you're sitting on Jim's desk so awkward next to gym. I remember filming not seen when I watched it. I felt so uncomfortable for Jim. I was like Oh God Jim and and then he gets up and he walks away yes. So here's something interesting about that. I as Jenna hate being tickled you hate it. I don't like it. It is not it certainly would not be the way to make up with me. You make you angry. I would be like no and I think that when I was filming that I had to really Lee wrap my head around the fact. This is a way that Gina and Pam are different. Yeah Pam is won over by it. Pam is like Oh come on oh not yet that is how they make up. Yeah Pam Roy are friends again. I guess engaged after that whatever they are there they are. They're back but for me as a I had to really stuff all of my Jenna instincts. Because I do not like tickling well and some people really don't like being tickled. I don't like being scared so so like I know well and my husband every like once a year around Halloween. You don't like being startled Yar scared. I don't like I don't like scary on well. I don't go to scary movies and my dad was the same way so you know how they say. Some people are like fight or flight. Yeah I am fight and Josh. My husband like around on Halloween kids. Think it's funny to get like a fake arm or a mask and scare me and I always say to them one of you will get wacked. You know that I have no flail your arms when people scare you. I've seen it no control over it just recently. My husband for Halloween. They jumped out to scare me. This mask on and I screamed in with everything everything I had. I hugged my phone at him and I hit him with my phone clearly. I didn't mean to it just as weird instincts thing right just go yeah you you need to hope that you never have to do a scene where someone scares you. It'll be bureau you will. How will you keep your arms from not whacking? I don't know I. I don't know someone will get someone. That was the difficulty for me in that scene because tickling me makes me WANNA walk. Someone not make me laugh. You did a great job and it was cringe as heck. Yeah Gem I know all right. We're going to go to a break. Let's take a break Angela. I want to start by asking you a question. You know the scene where Dwight is asking Katie on the date and and it's in front of your character because you're looking at purses your face during that moment what were you thinking. I did not even look up. No you just kept your eyes down. I kept my eyes down and then I didn't look up until he walked out of the room and you can see when he exits. I kind of look up and look at him. Leave you know. In at that moment. It was so awkward and uncomfortable. I wasn't given direction to do that but I just felt so uncomfortable. I just kept looking down but DWAYNE. Angela is not a thing yet. No I know but it is so easy to superimpose. What we know is going to happen between your two characters onto this moment but people were asking if you knew that your characters we're gonNA end up together in that moment yet but you didn't write didn't know I didn't know in just in that conference room? It's not a huge space in him putting himself out there like that to her. I as Angela and like even as myself felt so uncomfortable that I just was trying somehow not to participate in the moment in any way try to just is be invisible. Yeah I was in my mind I was like just being visible. I think that you know Angela didn't know that Dwight was going to be her soulmate. But I think she did see him as an equal and she respected acted his work ethic and probably respected who he was in the office even though he annoyed her right sure there was a power struggle between the two of them so to see him sort of humble himself like that to Katie and get humiliated. I just felt like I didn't even want him to think that I had witnessed it. I didn't see it. It didn't happen. It's okay that's I think couch what she was thinking. And that's why I didn't look up. I was literally trying to be invisible in the moment. We'll after that you have a line. That is one of my favorite lines of your character character where you describe your favorite colors. This is a fan question from Emi. Angela did you improvise the scene where you discuss your colors being different shades of gray. Yes I did I know it yes I did in the episode. Dwight is looking in at the conference room at Katie and Angela. Sort of talking and we didn't have any scripted dialogue so they I said. Can you just kind of banter and didn't even know if it would make it in you know. And so that scene was improvised and it starts off with amy as Katie. Saying well you seem to. I like to touch thing and then I just responded. I don't like to necessarily touch things. I'm shopping I love that line. And then she said well. What color do you like? And this was all all improvised and I said Gray Dark Gray charcoal and it made it in and that was really fun and then that line ended up in a article in the newspaper paper. It was talking about what sums up the show and they said well the character Angela's line gray dark gray charcoal rally really sets the tone and I was so proud out of that. It really then informed a lot of your wardrobe now after that you had been kind of wearing these muted colors but that became your uniform moving forward Okay Journal. What else do you have all right? The scene where Ryan and Michael or cleaning out his car. That was not improvised no that was scripted. A lot of people asked all of it. Blew blast smell alike. How many filet of fish do all of those lines or in the script? I checked because when I was watching it was so hard good for me to believe that it was not improvised that I went back to my script and I read it and I think that it just points to how good the writing was on our show. Fantastic that's just how good and also how good the actors were I mean. BJ and Steve in that scene just absolutely brilliant can't mindy also told me that the reference to the Filet O.. Fish is is a nod to her disgusting. Love A filet O.. Fish real life are just her love for McDonald's. Shot loves is McDonald's but that she really does love a fully fish. I loved to win when Michaels like that was over a period. Eight of time. Okay it was over a month over a month and Ryan. The temp goes still. Yeah I watch that scene over and over again. I think that's a gem. I think if you haven't watched this episode but you're listening to the podcast. Just please go watch that scene. It's so good. Blue is not a flavor. I have a note card. Say Okay this is a great great dwight line. When he says Sh- roots produce very thirsty babies? Oh yes that's a famous line. That's a famous line and when when I was pregnant I was pregnant season five of the office and I got a gift of a t shirt that said shoots produce very thirsty babies and it was on maternity shirt. Mike and I wore that around my big belly and people would freak out. I still have it. I still have it. Oh do you have a picture of yourself in that. I will look but if if I don't I'll just take a picture of myself in it and I'll have to post that on office ladies pod because I still have that shirt you should definitely hear something that everybody wrote in about. This was is one of our most popular questions. What's up with the wrong parking lot at the end of this episode? That's because this was the original set before we moved the the first six episodes we all filmed that an actual office building in Culver City and that was the parking lot yes so when we moved in season two and beyond we had two sound stages one one sound stage was a recreation of the office that Interior Office that we shot in the first year. The other building is where the writers work and it was just an an office building and that was just the parking lot for it yes and that is where we filmed the thunder mifflin parking lot so it was really interesting because we had our warehouse set over there and then we had the parking lot and we had the lobby in the elevator. Where Hank set yes? All of that was one building but then the Denver Mifflin Flint building with something else so if we had to do a scene where you see us walk out we would have to start that scene in one building and then move all the cameras and all of us over over to the other building and then get the exterior version of it. Yes it was quite complicated. It was it was basically we found in one stage indoors we filmed another stage outdoors outdoors. Yeah for the most part but that parking lot is not the thunder Mifflin parking lot that you see from season to and beyond and I have a story about that parking lot you see in that final shot it starts with Michael and Jim and Katie leaving. She's got her big bag. Michael realizes that Jim is going to be giving in her right home because they're going to get drinks. And then it reveals PAM and Roy backing up in rice truck and PAM clocks Jim and Katie Eighty so David. I had to sit in that truck in the parking lot and wait a very long time until everyone came out and did that scene and we had a little walkie-talkie inside the truck and they would say go and then David what backup and we would pull out and the camera would get that shot of me looking sad and we would drive off and then they would say reset reset and we would bring the truck back and then we would wait a very long time. At the end of the night they reset us back into the parking a lot and we sat there and we sat there in the truck. We sat there in the truck and then all of a sudden we saw everyone driving away in their own cars ars. They left us in the truck. They we've got to tell us that. Were they had wrapped. Oh Jer the day and we were all done and we were leaving you you were done. You were changing clothes. You were getting into your cars. We saw the director. Leave all actors. David and I were like what what is going on. So and in. Here's the thing I've talked about this before. David Denman and I were very good friends in real life. We talked about in the basketball episode. How you and I became best friends because we had to sit on that bench imber hours and hours? This is really the episode where David and I became such good friends like St Louis Connections. We did and we had the poker connection. Yes David I played in a poker game together with our crew true we would host these poker games. Rain was in on it. Chris Workman who was one of our camera. Operators and our camera assistant we would all get together gather and we would play poker and he was part of that so he was one of my poker pals and anyway this was episode where we really became friends because because we got left in that truck she got stuck in that truck Jenny. Do you know what I'm seeing a theme here that you become really close friends with people that you are in a confined space. I get stuck with a badge. All the Angela's best friend. I'm stuck in a truck David. Let's play poker. Get stuck in an elevator with me. And then you're going to be best friends for life I have my final note card ready. Yes all right at around twenty one minutes twenty five seconds. UC both meredith. errative played by Kate. Flannery and Meredith played by Henriette in the same episode. Yes you saw it and yes I saw it and I almost texted you background expert. Don't I thought no. I'm going to wait and see if she sees it yes. This is a huge mistake. It's a huge mistake so basically wall Michael has this talking head. They WANNA show all these clips of different women in the office and they used like some footage from the pilot before before Kate flannery came on and it was Henriette as meredith. You have this montage. That goes Kate. Flannery to Henriette to Louis Van. Who played in the annex? Who was one of our extras for a very long time? So that makes sense. I saw that and I got so excited for you. I got so excited because you knew I knew you were going to clock it. She knew I had had my note card ready. I have a final little tidbit. I I have Fisher tidbit the coffee maker. We never find out who won the coffeemaker. No I'm feeling like I need to know we never find out who wanted and we never see it again. We office I asked Phil Hsieh okay. Because a fan wrote in they wanted to know did any of us get to keep it. People are very interested in the things were allowed to keep and not keep I get it. He said no he. He said it was borrowed from starbucks and had to be returned. I believe there is that machine now. I actually believe that. And I bet the purses were returned because as we were on a tight budget and we thought we were getting cancelled and we didn't want to give NBC. Any reason to think we were trouble. That's right so I think I believe that all all of that was returned and we got to recoup that money for sure well done. I think some really fun fast facts. You did a great job. Wow thank you. You're yeah well I really appreciate no now. I need to hear you sing. Because if that's what you sound like I just realized we've never like like done karaoke or anything together on the wings of love. Only the two of us together fly and Ha- anymore we have have to pay for it but now I know you're now I have got your carioca voice and it's Westbury was trying to cover up floss and if you can't really see you whisper sing and that was hot girl and that wraps up season one season line where you become best friends because you were stuck on a bench with me. Yeah and where are you also became someone because you were stuck in a car with them. Yeah see a pattern here. What's going to happen season two? Who Do I get stuck with in season? Two Don Don. Speaking of season two. We are going to start with the Dundee's Oh I can't wait. That's a big episode of very very big episode. All right we'll see next week. See you next next week. 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Garage pull rope, down in the lake, closed captioning (Full Show)

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Garage pull rope, down in the lake, closed captioning (Full Show)

"The Difference Russ. DARROW DOT COM Zave. Is your lead donkey into the world of sports and other stuff ever seen guy shoot at a Cobra. All My. God, Oh my. Featuring Josh Albrecht No. No. No No, no, no, no, you don't know you're going to take that shot. You can't miss and Eric. gitter points. You can't miss and it's like. It's like a pellet gun. He's shooting with tap the show on the Pella. W. I dot, com, talk and text line at four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven three twitter at save. It's staring right at the guy with the gun shot number two raises the Cobra and many pauses, and begins a B. Line right at the guys. Camera Camera of course drops falls to the bottom of the jeep, and I'm sure they feel the pinch mud now. Here's Steve Sabin. I mean we've been waiting for the universal designated hitter Scott for what feels like decades now, but the runner starting on second base in extra innings is a really interesting one and something that's been in play in the minor leagues. The World Baseball classic it will not be in play in the postseason. So if you're afraid that you'RE GONNA lose a post season game because a runner starting on second base in the tenth inning then. No, fears. Just what daters guess what they is? Anybody Julie. Hey guess what day it is. Come on, no, you can hear me Mike. What. Day Is it Mike? Listen guess what today is. Humpty Deed. and. You are looking live at the mighty. W and In Green, Bay Wisconsin. In the shadow, although legendary Lambofield, we are here at Midwest, communications. And we are alive I. Love it here live. Our headphones are completely out of wack. Good morning, everybody's Abe Getter Josh the whole gang. Here I don't know why. The volume went suddenly up at the last second. As soon as we opened the show I don't know why that happened, but it did and so now everything is all messed up. Not Happy about it too loud announced to quiet all right everybody good morning. We. We got a baseball season on our hands all right Bubba Wallace, man, what a story disintegrating in front of our eyes! And Avery Bradley as out of the NBA's reboot. Who is next? How many more to come? We had a great day at Green. Bay Country Club yesterday. What a course! What a day John! Kuhn was great to be with. We had Jeff Right from Midwest Communications. Who just kept feeding Josh Beers? Beer beer since the ours Beer Jason Hillary was awesome as well he is. Also responsible for getting us on here on WWL NFL and not. Tim Lays the engineer here. L. A. Y. E. S.. WHO's been here since nineteen eighty-one seeing the whole Duke Right Midwest Communications Empire grow and grow and grow duke by the way is eighty years old still comes to the radio station every day I, noticed the country station. Is The Duke. The Duke Exactly Right Duke Right? Founder of Midwest Communications began with one. Station. And now they're up to our forget what the number he said was seven million seventeen. Wouldn't have part of this is great and as Josh mentioned the studio. You're Kinda more spacious. Maybe a little bit nicer than the Home Studio, so yeah, not too shabby. But will work on the the home yard. Later gets him three year creek paint. Yes, that would be good as well about the right color in here, so we got baseball to talk about. The season is on. They've got a hard start date. They've got an approval. From the Union they've approved on testing that happened. Quick that jumped up in. A hurry didn't issue day went from. It's unbelievable. It's not going to happen. There's going to be grievances. Come to lawyers. What about the testing of a God and the player said? Yeah. We'll be there next week. Yeah. Can you report next week and the players like? Your, let me check. My calendar been doing for four months. Yeah, exactly. So it's. It's quite a day news. Wise and if that wasn't enough, we have a man catching an eight foot shark in the ocean. By hand. And we have dumpster swimming pools. And we got a man who lost not only his boat. That sank in lake, but a jeep wrangler and a Ford Raptor F one fifty, trying to save the boat. That's a big loss there. He had a good day. It's three in one day right there so anyway. All right bye poll question for the day is up on twitter at Xavier, Charlie. Zulu, Alpha Bravo Echo, and that is simply this. WHO. Who is most responsible? For the leading the bubble, Wallace News story spin out of control. A NASCAR be the sports media BUBBA OR D. All of them. This is a story that as soon as you heard it is, said well, if true, that's awful. Yes, what I want to hear more. But you had to kind of tiptoe around the if true, because nowadays, if you even dare suggest such a thing, there are people who will come and attack you. I always wanted to hear more as well because the basic thought was. So you have access to the garage meaning you are in the inner circle of Nascar you probably work for the sport. We presume that there was cameras security cameras but I'm not sure there were. I think I heard one report. That said they didn't have any. How do they not have cameras in those garages? Amount of money. Though you would bars cost right, you would think. But so now we see if they okay somebody who had access to the garage. decided that. This was going to be the moment. He threw his career away. Because he has so much hate in his heart. That he's got a really stick it to to bubble wallace. He's like this is my moment. It's crazy like that made no sense on the face of it, but hey people. Can Be. Full of hate can be crazy people. You don't know so I said okay. Let's just put that aside I want to hear more. How hard could it be to catch? It is or at least to put out a grainy surveillance footage photo, 'cause you know the rule of surveillance footage cameras are they must be no greater than sixteen pixels cracked, and they must be black and white and very hard to identify anybody on. Terrible white, white balance and shade control, everything. Looks like never the member how bad the surveillance footage was in the jussie smollet he's. And you're like I, can't really tell who that is. Perfect security footage, right and people are saying well. This is like Jussie smollet. Not Really. Because Jussie smollet cooked the whole thing up himself. In order to try to deflect from the fact that he was being written out of the show. He wanted sympathy so he was trying to do that. As well I don't think Bob. Wallace was like worried. Oh my God! I'M GONNA. Lose my ride in NASCAR. What can I cook up to make people more sympathetic to me so that they couldn't possibly say hey, you know what? What Bobby? You're not winning many races, so we're gonNA move onto another driver. I don't think he cooked this up. It doesn't mean he wasn't in some way. Complicit to a certain degree because he went on CNN, he was on CNN last night, even after this thing pretty much disintegrated and was insisting ATS news I. Don't Care What you say. That's a news when the FBI. Everybody who saw it said? Yeah, that's actually just a poll rope for a garage door, so don't think bubble wallace was. He didn't cook it up, but he also didn't pump the brakes on it. He didn't go like if NASCAR founded. You would think that they would tell him. First of all, he would have seen. He's in the garage. He drives the car. He's there all day every day. He's at every NASCAR garage around yes josh. Josh I. Think as you're explaining this. It's important to note in your poll question. You say who is the most responsible. It'd be very easy for everyone to say all that well that all of them is winning out of the gate right, but when so when you're looking at that poll, realize the most everyone I think is in some way, shape or form at fault in this entire situation, but the question is who has the most. That they did wrong here. Well who do you think is the worst I mean Nah? Okay. Can I DEFEND NASCAR for a second go ahead. Try Okay so basically? Maybe maybe bubba sawed the rope and said what the hell is this. By the way, what kind of not is that? Is that a hangman's? Not because. You could tie a knot at the end of the rope to make for a loop to be able to pull on a garage door. It doesn't have to be a not like that. Get you're going on a boy scout camping weekend with your boy. No, you're not this weekend. This is a school. Oh, school, okay, but your your son is in boy, scouts and Josh. You're an Eagle Scout. Yeah I should be talking to you well. Didn't you pass knots one? Oh One. Is that not or away to tie off a loop? What's the hangman's not read there? Okay Yeah. They're there, but you could tell us around that you get. You don't need to make. That looks like a news. What's the benefit of a hangman's not well this one slide you can slide it and it's adjustable. Yes, also not a concern when you're pulling garage door correct. Well I don't know this rope to pull down. This garage could just like another two feet this. That'd be nice about this out of here. How about how about a nice garage door opener a button? Well, that's. Why. How come there's not a key code. You know who we need to talk to our boy finally big Mikey has a area of expertise. Garage doors for Amazon, you know. Yeah. He thinks he knows sports and he doesn't really know that well. He knows Raj doors enough to be dangerous right? He knows garage doors. Get like DSL like. Is that the base model garage door? Do you think when NASCAR CONTRACT TO GET GARAGE DOORS ON PITS? Some rep like our guy big. Mike came on and goes. Oh. Yeah, no, we could do this. This is the. Foot Shirley. Shortly this, the sixteen foot industrial door, and we'll put a remote on it and a motor, and it'll be real slick keypad. You want any kind of touch security, WOAH! Key! Pad and Oh no you. Know you want that, you definitely know this. Is this real? Nice, don't. NASCAR WE GOTTA cut back. We're not like we used to be okay. Our viewership has been down lake on a two hundred and fifty percent. Go see you don't want the Nice. Is there like a starter level something? Maybe maybe if they work well and our numbers get. Maybe we can like. Add the remote after how about this we won't go. We won't go metric key keypad. We'll do a simple you know. Ten digit keypad. That's the Base Model I think we've got a few of those in stock. Let me check. What. You don't even have to really check on that. If is something lower than that, maybe like A. Rope you want to door right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely want the doors, yeah! And you want to go up and down. Yes, okay, Yep, Ni, how that yeah. Get it up and down. Just I'm just curious because I. Don't sell a lot of the base model anymore. You know I'm exploring options. There's like what are you? What do you envision expensive option so? You think one of the crew members. Just get a lift the door up by hand. Yeah, yeah, can we do that? That doesn't cost much right who aren't. Doors are wide, and they're kinda heavy I. mean it. What about like a hand? You're going to be snuggled. Strong enough employees to be able to do this. If they can't. We'll get you know two or three guy you know. Listen I hey. Honest truth I'll make more money on the basic door. Whatever you want, you're the customer all right. I'll get it to you. But I don't think you're going to be happy. You'RE GONNA be manually lifting this door up and down, and you have to get a rope I guess I could get a rope attached, and then we could just hang it from the side get. Grade No, no, no, no US problem. What if there's somebody? There's somebody with a very weak grip. That has a hard time holding the noodle end of the rope. How are they going to hold the heavy garage door down any thoughts on that now we'll. We'll figure that out if it happens good. Let's go with the robot. All, right well, then put in. You want that and all thirty two stalls here at Talladega. Motor speedway Yeah W. Nascar that will save at least eight hundred dollars. A. Lesson I don't i. don't care to chase this too far. Unfortunate incident, but I gotTa tell you. It's embarrassing the way that we can't even get certain things right and by we I mean in general society. The media everybody else. This was a simple thing. And it was botched from the start, so vote the poll question. Let me know who you think is most responsible for it falling apart and getting out of control. MLB season is on like donkey Kong. We'll talk about avery. Bradley is out of the NBA reboot. Who is next? How many more could follow? Recap our Glorious Day at Green. Bay country also are man box score. Billy has parked is bike. Magnum T Y manning the board back in Milwaukee is let a man, and we will get our update from him coming up next. We're live at W. NFL in Green Bay Wisconsin on a glorious Wednesday. Today. My Town One, three, four, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven, thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen and eighteen. Were signature quality holes yesterday. At Green Bay Country Club I kid you not. I, was trying to go through it and say how many of these holes would be worthy of the big splash photo. Not a golf courses website like you gotta come play this course. Look this whole. Look at this monster. This beast is beauty right here. That's my count. I think the only pedestrian holes were to five twelve and fifteen. We're GONNA play a game now. Can Josh Remember? No chance any of the holes from yesterday. Yes, specifically seventeen remember seventeen. Yeah, because it took me two and a half hours to get through seventeen. I'm assuming it was around eight hundred nine hundred yards. It was five hundred. What was yes, I remember long. Because John Kuhn sold it to me. Gotten a fighter this whole We were quite a few notches away from a fight I don't fight people that especially him well. I don't fight people I'm a lover, not a fighter, but I generally don't fight people who could hammer me into the ground like a tenth stake in wet grass, which is what John Kuhn could do foam boom boom keeping. Grasp upon you another great, it'd be a three punch fight and the last two punches. Josh would be purely for his enjoyment. Correct the first one would do it all into its own be like the Dallas Godart sucker punch fight. After the round you actually asked Kuhn, said I, said, could we tackle? You could meet Josh and get her. Actually tackle you laugh, because no chance. Not even I said no chances well. Okay. Well way believe you're not committed to it. Maybe that's why yeah right but you know. What you're doing when we have to tackle, John will bring somebody else, so we're. There's a will. There's a way get tie. We'll get tied to do a title. Bring the Lebron He. If he saw US coming. You think we could take him now if we believe in ourselves. Maybe I didn't say I think we could I'm just stunned at your lack of enthusiasm. Get right think we need to. Did you see how thick he is? And how muscular is been retired for a couple? Years own off here all the time. States whose face! Say on the radio now let's get back to him. He's working for the last fifty minutes right now. He gets up at five thirty in works out. So what soda of Instagram or Instagram it's not true on a believe night. Let me see the photo workout. Of course, he doesn't for the Graham Anyway. The the golf courses amazing. It's you know it's. It's a course that you would never guess. From the name of IT Green, Bay Country Club I thought it was gonNA. Be a nice old school. Oak Tree Lined Park land course small. Push up green plastic clubhouse. This is like American club. This is like Black Wolf I. Go I go. This course reminds me of what if Black Wolf Ron had an illicit affair with the ball yet. They're bastard lovechild. Would be. Green, Bay Country Club. MAZING. And Josh, what are you shoot yesterday amidst all? Rolling Hills the creeks, the lakes, the rough. The Woods. I shot a six I. I think that's what I shot to. Put a few balls out over now. I will say I was playing with with Jeff Right. Who before the round I ask both of you guys would. How do I do this I'm embarrassed myself, you said if you play good play fast, play bad play faster, so I had that mentality. Jeff wanted to find every single one of my crappy shots. Oh, no, at least three or four that there's no way I would have found them by the time I got to my ball. Yes right here in this like two foot grass ranch. We noticed for five hours. Yes, was a little pokey, but that's okay. The ladies the ladies that were behind us, and it was ladies day out of the club. They were giving us the club. Pro Guy Hands on hip pose in the fairway layup. Come on. And the whole time like man, those ladies, a right honest. They are moving and I said we'll 'cause. They're teeing off from way of their world. Service very those ladies tease like how they honest already. Oh, that's right. The red teas are all the way up there. They walk there. Okay, but afterwards they are cool. They didn't. They were very nice actually so anyway. Great Town I got more on this just a bit box score. Billy is in the house box score. What's going on? Young Man I like totals? Seriously excited I'm Kinda shy, but mostly excited. Score Good Morning. What's happening? They save yesterday. The biggest story was the rope found Imbaba. Wallace's garage was used to close the garage door, but why does NASCAR need ropes to 'cause garages? Why don't they have garage door openers like my mom has a garage door opener and she's not as rich Nascar. The NBA had a few people. There aren't going to go to Disneyworld. which yeah I mean, neither can I so and tennis guy named Jock Av-, Ike was hanging out with the basketball player, named Jock Guyq, and now they both have corona virus also baseball's officially back. I mean it's not like back-back me. That doesn't start for like a month, but still yeah baseball. To you all right, thank you box score. Billy very well, said Yeah Novak Djokovic is in the news. We'll get to him at some point. Are Pose is in with more on the baseball season locked and loaded. It signed it sealed. It is not yet delivered, but it will be soon. Here's pose. He knows hockey and a lot more. Fun Out of the blast. Racing. This is posed no sports. Brought to you by great mid West Bank for all your mortgage loan needs alright. Pose baseball is on. You excited brother Yeah, bring it on I've been telling you I i. wanted to see them. Play I was tired of their. You know their. Childish negotiations if you WANNA call them that, but all let's play. Let's get some diversion here. The coronavirus delayed Major League Baseball Season Will Begin July twenty third or twenty, four th and empty stadiums after the players association agreed to health and safety protocols yesterday players will report to their home ballparks for a second spring training on July first, and will receive full prorated pay for the sixty game regular season that'll be made up of ten games each against division rivals in four games each against the opposite leaks, corresponding geographical division to keep travel at a minimum, so the brewers will play ten games against the cardinals, cubs, pirates, and reds, each and four H. against the Indians Royals Tigers twins. Twins and white sox. Of course, the baseball season is dependent on the health of its players. At least seven members of the Philadelphia. Phillies in three. Colorado rockies have tested positive for covid nineteen. If and when the season begins the National League will use the designated hitter for the first time extra inning games. We'll begin with a runner at second base. Don't like that idea. Active rosters will start with thirty players during the first two weeks twenty eight in the second two weeks twenty-six, after that the trade deadline will be August thirty first, and as of now ten teams will make the playoffs, but that could be expanded to sixteen pair. Okay I, two things one. Why do you say if? The season, if and when it depends on the health you know if player is continually come down with corona virus. How are they gonNA play the season. You put aside. Positive test put aside. Twenty four man roster there are no minor leagues No minor leagues this season, but they will have a sixty man or sixty man roster right when they'll have like I mentioned they'll have thirty players to start out. The season so. A little bit of positivity from you. It'd be nice for once. Yeah, Mister, negative, just getting I'd secondly runner on second base thing, don't like it. Okay! Is there another way you would propose? Inducing an end to games to keep from the interminable sixteen seventeen inning game once the percentage of games that go to sixteen or seventeen, not Steve. It doesn't matter. Yes, it does yet. I think it doesn't matter because once too many. Wants his too many. Yeah, because it's just a game. Is this game. Let's end the game. WE'RE GONNA end the game. We're GONNA create a rule to end the game. We're here for a good time, not a long time, so let's. Put Him at second base bottom to third and get Get a chance to to hit a sacrifice fly to win a game. Yea, Oh, well, you're assuming anyone can a runner over which probably pretty? silly. I probably want him home from second I'm that good watch drag bunt. got bunch you haven't seen. Got The Tokyo Ninja Bon Nice I've got the Babe Ruth Bunt Oh Yeah I'd home so I just think. Here's how I would do it. Okay. I would take away one fielder every half inning. Start playing with fewer and fewer people really like hockey idea. Why don't we just move the walls in one hundred feet, so then you just hit a normal pop up to shortstop, and it's a home run in the game's over. Why don't we do it that way? Movable walls those will inexpensive. Big sliders! Walls are dealing with a rope. How `bout lengthening is the aluminum bat inning for the easy. Normally your home team advantage thrown out a softball. Slow Pitch Softball, right? You know what? Let's just put a guy at second be done with cheese. The FBI has concluded that NASCAR's loaned black driver bubble Wallis was not the target of a hate crime after a noose was found in his garage at Talladega before Monday's. Monday's rain-delayed. GEICO, five, hundred based on photographic evidence, the FBI concluded the news poll rope for the garage door that had been there since at least last October, and now Wallis his being accused by some of creating or staging the incident. He's even been compared to actor Jesse, small lead who last year was accused of staging a racist and homophobic attacks against himself. Here's bubble wallace. Things worse than they're trying to test your character and try to take something away from me that spots, but the backlash will always be there. It doesn't matter if we provide one hundred percent facts in evidence photo evidence people are going to photoshop to make it. Make me look like the bad person. The day I'll always have haters. That's happens when you you have a voice. You have a platform. People are GonNa try to take that away from you. With all their power, they will lose sleep over making sure you don't succeed. Succeed so you have to be strong. Always keep your head on a swivel, and we always watch your back. But always what? Wallace told CNN the pull rope was still tied like a news, and that bothers NASCAR says it will continue. Its investigation also wanted to mention the Wisconsin. Athletic Hall of Fame Ceremony for Brett Farve and Jordy Nelson that was scheduled for this month and Madison has been rescheduled for August, twenty first and has been moved to the Club at LAC. La Belle so there. You go all right good news. A Do you know? Do you have some rope yourself not with the news, but just some long rope, and maybe A-. A truck. We need to go try to get colonel Christian. Hague out of the lake. For last. Yeah and the forward son Yep. Status you, sorry. Yeah. It the hell! WHAT THE HELL POST! In, this man actually died trying to end slavery. Yes, he fought as an abolitionist right for the civil war right right, right? I know and this other young man that was in Madison with a bullhorn a bat yesterday. Things up, you know. And people were upset with how he was arrested while he's got, he's he's got a bullhorn back. In fact, I would arrest somebody with a bullhorn even before that there's the forwards. It seems like you who? Just a statue of who is enough, nobody woman man. It's A. Woman. A WOMAN! What is her name where she from? Its, you say you went to Madison. Mark Post. What was her? Thank you, Buddy. All right there you go. It's just a statue of WHO. Man Woolen Statues right Jean Pond. Miner is her name. Pain Jean Pond Miner, at what was she known for? She Menashe eighteen, sixty or boredom and board already coming up. What's trending brought to you by? Electric Josh. What do you got well? We have a story a few good stories here for one. Make sure you go to the bathroom. When you have to go to the bathroom plus don't leave your luggage at the airport. It could end up online also, there's a reason it's called insurance. Let the damn. Boats sank that story more coming up next. 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A man's bladder explode was after holding in P. for eighteen hours. Wow! Mali. Why would he hold it in well? Where was he on an international flight or something? No, they say that he was beer binging. Yes, so, what does that mean that means that he very well could have been me yesterday on the golf. Course play which right? But why would you hold it in? Well according to the story there, saying that He. Planned on sleeping it off, and that happens when you drink so much, and then you don't go to the bathroom, and then you pass out. That you wouldn't go to the bathroom. Wouldn't you pay yourself? Apparently not all the time. You didn't know why he was holding it in, so he fell asleep. It says the man forty year old man identified only as Mr., who reportedly fell asleep after downing ten bottles of beer during a heavy drinking session the night prior not not even a lot I know. That's heavy ten after experiencing searing abdominal pains. A cat scan revealed. His bladder was torn in three places. Wow. The pain was so intense that who is unable life flat, and he failed to relieve himself of his massive urine reservoir, despite several attempts I still I still don't hear anything in the story as to why he was holding his bladder, he makes. Me He passed out and he did not go the whole time while he was drinking. It's wait a minute. Before you pass out? You don't okay, I I. Don't know why that would be if you're angry, agree if you're Leah. Let's say you're an eighteen hour meeting with a third world dictator dictator, where you can't get up and leave like if you're in a meeting with Kim Jong Hoon. You're like. I got a piece so bad. Story. Rude and I've got a hold it in. It says while bladder explosions are rare. The local hospital claims that every year they admit at least one such patient and Big Beers apparently. The perfect recipe for a perforated punch and Where did this happen? Again is in China's in China and always sure there wasn't an eel that was up there. Maybe. All these crazy stories are from India China or Florida one of the three places. He was holding it so that he could be on what's trending. That's. That's probably why, but as you said get, that's what gets me. They say well. This doesn't happen. There's always usually one a year, so when you when you work in that hospital, you're going. Out there it is? Mark the calendar. Twenty twenty doctor. The Cleveland Clinic Dr Brenda Gill says accompanied by Newbury to individual being less aware of his fullness. This can result in traumatic bladder rupture, okay? Well they'll be people using that all the time. That'll be my excuse if I ever get busted for like peeing on the side of the road I was worried about that every now and then I'll just gotta go. The side of the Road I gotTa go pee in the woods, thinking the cop comes pulls over and says okay. Public Indecency taking the end I'd be like I had to go it. All comes full circle back to Seinfeld. When Jerry had to pee in the in the parking structure and got pulled over, and they said it's not healthy to hold it right. Healthy to hold it and indeed. Could that by the story. Ahead, but we didn't okay. Dateline Cedar Lake Indiana so here's the store you're rich. You have a house on the lake. You have a wake vote. And it starts to sink. You also have at your disposal. A jeep renegade and a Ford F, one fifty raptor, a top of the line. Hundred nuts don't seventy five thousand dollar not. It's not something like that. It's no GMC Laremy. But it's all right. Ram a Ram. Thank you GMC. So, what do you do well? This guy decided he was going to Jan only. Back his truck I think he started with the raptor or with the. The jeep back into the lake, get a rope and trying to tie it to his sinking wake boat and pull it safely to shore before it six. Well, the boats started pulling the jeep deeper into the water will undeterred. Rich idiot gets his raptor tries to bring it into the lake. Next thing you know you gotta sinking wake boat and he got two vehicles also sinking in the lake, and there's photos of this on the Internet. It's hilarious. To two items here one. Is You know this poverty wake boat? Have you ever heard of poverty? He owns three of them. Of course. Do you know what it costs according to the story I'm looking up right? No, no, no, no I want you to guess I'll tell you what it costs. What do you think awake boat costs and awake boat is just. Skim around the lake on maybe to- people on tubes or water skiing. Grand. This, crazy this no price. We're not playing. On low bidder and everyone else is over. You. Win The wake, bligh always. Guessing no all right? Ten Gram I. Get her hundred twenty grand three hundred. Thou-, Stings Holy. Both that you just yes, yeah y open. Diamonds. Has This guy's rich and dumb? And now he's gotTa replaces poverty, wake boat and vehicle speaker enclosures. Okay, that's. Another ten. Three, hundred thousand dollars, anyone who is a boat person lake person's got sought to us on the penalty. W Dot, com, talk and text line about these poverty boats. Are they really really that not heated and cooled seats still on up three hundred, thousand, a basic anything that's going to get it up to three hundred dollars basic boat that the parts and everything else should be eighty thousand dollars. And you start adding extras other stuff. Bring it up to one fifty, maybe two at the tops. Where's the extra hundred grand where I don't know? Is this a boat. Is this boat more importantly? Has there ever been a scary bow and stern thrusters? He's he's already shopping for one. He's trying to run these got. This. Pick up on the way home. On the way home, Call Patty and pitch this tour, so we can listen. I WanNa, hear your go right to the website and. Book bookmark. Starting price, three hundred and fifteen, thousand, nine, hundred ninety nine dollars, this chart, rich douchebag in Indiana. He's already got in his car to replace it, but has there ever been a story more perfectly suited for our favorite song by Dean Summer Wind. That's right. I'm part. Downing in the late. And I'm. Is Paul Tab Leh. If you want. Sank. Down the lay. Battery, Grandma. To. Dot here we go up tight. The. Lakers vervins Parker now. The bottom dismay all parts of the. Pay. Honey. Where'd you leave the raptor? What are you okay? What's trending? Have you guys ever had your your baggage lost? My baby gets you. May Baggage I've had lost. Go ahead. What about your baggage you never have? Okay, I didn't know this existed, but apparently there was a store in Alabama that bought on claimed baggage. Than, and would sell it in their brick and mortar store from all over the United States. They was out by this unclaimed people. What psychopaths check a bag on a flight? Lose it and then go. That's too much trouble to get it just underwear and we'd leave it right onto the week back. It's old and get arrested for it at that point, and and the thing is so they weren't allowed to buy it until it's been. Three to four months the airline had to try getting back to its rightful owner. At that point. They tried to do something else with that. They have to get rid of it. And this place in Alabama called on claimed baggage would fight now they're opening an online store i. know kind of like online storage wars. Now it is now like storage wars, but for. For bags for Samsonite what you're GONNA. Guess, it's almost like a grab gets a prize pack. You like Oh. What's inside of it? Will it be something good? Will it be a bars of gold bullion, or will it be under the underwear right there? Just welcomed unclaimed baggage, the nation's only retailer of lost luggage. You never know what you'll fears. Here's my first. Suspicion they're going to seed it with bags that aren't really lost, and they're gonNA pretend they're lost bags and they're gonNA put nothing but newspaper stuffing in them so because I'm on the I went to their website. Then fake you page and they say on there. There are certain items that they sell that are not. From lost luggage royally, those items are marked in the store and now going to be Martin website. They also say that buy items. They mean what luggage that has stuff in it which you don't know, but was not lost or or a specialty item of some. But it's also luggage that spawned from buses or trains. Planes my big question was how how is there only one place? This is like a monopoly of. Lost Luggage Hauser only one place. That gets all the lost luggage from every airline. There are I'm GONNA Open lost luggage store. That's nuts well good. You should make a lot of money on that. They got by the way. Stick wallpaper on their website. Some replacement vacuum cleaner brush bars for dyson vacuum sounds very dicey. How about all the stuff that gets left in the trays through TSA BY ACCIDENT? People just rushing rushing Russian. I mean that's the whole thing unto itself. I'd like to the story once where I had to go into the lost and found at the O'hare TSA to try to find my keys. I. Tell You that story. No, yeah. I was coming back from a trip. had no friends basically in Chicago shocker and nobody had picked me up to get me into my apartment or let me sleep at their house I left my keys in the TSA ban on the way down to this trip business trip, and then on my way back, I. Said Okay. We'll just go to lost and found. I'm sure they have them organized in a room. That says here's the date keys were lost. Wrong now this pile them all up. It was the biggest junk closet you've ever seen. It was purses bags keys items. Sunglasses strewn all over the place. As as the guy opened the door and I had talked to a couple people to get me in there. I almost cried thinking. Never GonNa, find my keys, but I did have new era hats. Oh Jeez, oh, boy, and now we're done parked in the. Coming up, where do you stand Wednesday? We got a lot of good. Where do you stand fire them into us? At four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven, three on the pellet Wi dot, com, talk and text line up here in Green Bay. We're having a great time. We're part of the Midwest Communications family great to beyond up here as we get ready for packer season starting just about a month away. States yet. Time now to play. Where do you stand? You know where I stand I. WanNa know where you stand. Here John Where do you stand Wednesday? Just put it to us. Where do you stand? On this all answer, honestly just be prepared. Maybe I won't give the answer your life, but at least you'll know where I stand four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven, three on the Pella Wi dot, com, talk and text line. Where do we stand on the day tournament? The first annual 97.3 game tribute tournament to caddyshack. Washington County Golf Course Thursday July thirtieth. Ten Am shotgun start get. Your force. Now doesn't matter if you suck. We're going to have fun. Everything's GonNa. Be caddyshack themed. We stand at Oh my. Twenty one of the available twenty five foursomes, hundred players, Max have already been claimed yet. Oh, chop, chop, get on it! I! Don't want you to miss out. Go to the Game M. K. E., dot com or go to caddy Dash Day DOT COM CA DD E. Dash Day DOT com. Good. You know what this is going to result in though if we end up selling out by the end of the day. I mean when when it yet when it sells out by the end of the day. This is what's going to happen Josh Mark my words. Somebody! In the building's going to go. Maybe we could do more. We we maybe we can add more players one. Can we do? Because you know it, everyone's always greedy, but I look at his tournament organizer. sellouts are good. Start a little small sell it out. Create that urgency that carries over year to year Don't dally, so that's what I'm so I'm going to resist any notion of well. Maybe we can squeeze a few more kind of like sunburned bowl. This is the number. Here's our number and we've. We're GONNA. Hit. It and we're GONNA. Do it now. We can worry about executing as turned it. Organize them like I got an order. Some stuff we've got orders from coins get flags, custom flags that have low sided coins. Coins agreed. Okay. Here we go. Where do you stand Wednesday? Let me start with somewhere and I think my favorite packer head of many. It's the salute to service military hat. Where do you stand on rubberized Josh Logos like this one is on the salute to service. Are you a thread guy through and through that you want stitching or patches, or are you okay with the rubberized three d.? Hat Logo? I am not a fan, okay? I 'cause because I'm a traditionalist right in a lot of the ways that it comes to to be honest with you. Patches to me are okay, but not as good as you on X. Ray citizen you want. Stitch count I want I want that raised and. Itching well, but look it up raced and pure it yeah, it's traditional. You could have raised stitching though on a patch. That's true, but. She's like the patch you have now for the 97.3 the game. That's the New Year's yeah, right, so but I you know in a perfect world I'd have it. Just. Race stitched right into the hat. Get her. What are you stay on rubberized Loeb love it. It's fantastic looks awesome. It. Does I think it looks? Great everyone's grill. I didn't. I don't. It was a genuine opinion. I think you can get better detail in the rubber versus the stitching, so you can get a much. More detail which makes it looks cooler I'd love to order one a rubberized. Thank for the cadidate tournament hat, but there's minimums usually after hit for it because they make molds of it. Turned a share now. Getting into details on this and I usually can't hit the minimum so anyway I. Let's get to the real. Where do you stands? Where do you stand sports? Where do you stand on season tickets? It was interesting to hear John Kuhn yesterday and others in our group. Talk about you know having season tickets to the packers. Kuhn said that he finally gave him up. Because you know, he could give them away, but it was hard to actually get his money back and one of the other guys in our group Brian o'shaughnessy said. Take even though I live here but I can go to game. I want. And I said well. Are. You worried that someday there won't be a sellout at mighty lambofield got now. They, said a lot of season ticket holders for the packers. The chosen ones who've been on the waiting list got off the waiting list. They sell at least half their season tickets as a means of income yet. So where do you stand on selling your season tickets? Selling season tickets having season or having. Where do you stand on season tickets? I find season tickets. A anachronism of a sports past that is rapidly dwindling like in this world of Uber just call up a ride when you want and rub hub who wants to commit themselves to a full season, even if you are a packer fan through and through, which is a? Wonderful thing to say I'm a season ticket holder so season tickets in my opinion. Our work. You need to understand that if you're getting them, you're going into it with work. You're either going to have a partner. That's going to take half all right I'll take half. You take half a mob you look at the. Time you're a planner or you know you're going to look at it as a business and you're saying all right I'm going to fork out this much, but then I know people I'll be able to sell these tickets. You have to have all those sorts anyone who just goes you know I'm a big fan of football. And I WANNA go to a lot of games vice. Those people are insane because there's there's no way that that plays out that way things come up in your life. You're not going to every game. Concept of season tickets was. Hey, if you're a superfan of this team. By a block of tickets for the whole year, so you know you've got the same good seats that you like, and you know you've got tickets to the game. You're set. You don't have to scramble for it, but my God get if you have a eighty one game full season plan for the brewers. That's work and you better be unemployed or retired. Yeah, Eighty one game for baseball is a lot I mean I have season tickets for the badgers, and we I like football basketball football football football, so I like our seats. Are there undercover which is nice? You know you got those rainy days potentially. There's a there's a TV screen literally just up to my right, so I got that for replays. We're right on the aisle so I mean. There's definitely some advantages to having season tickets, and and now Tucker being the age where he likes. He wants to go to more skirting than so yeah, we. We still have him. We'll sell maybe one or two of them. Or you know, flip into somebody to for launch, but yeah, we go to try to. As we can. Stance on season tickets is God. Bless everybody who has them and buys them, but I don't see how you do it I'm like wow, you're hardcore. Where do you stand media? Where do you stand on closed captioning on your TV? I was eating. Some culver is over at Josh. Julie's and it was glorious on Monday and we're watching cars to like. We said for about the five hundred eleventh time when young Jordy. And all I'm looking at is the closed captioning for the movie on the screen. I go, so is that up all the time in the house? And your response to me? Josh was yeah. Yet is and then Zave said why. And Julian I looked at each other and went. I have no idea. And then Julie fessed up. She goes well sometimes. If I'm watching something and I'm eating potato chips. I don't want to have to hit rewind. If I didn't hear what was says. Least Shouli set about eating potato chips or Josh said that. Yeah. It's potato chips like veggie potato chips now, surely chips in moderation. Yes, she's just smart about the way she. I think sheets and moderation, even if it's not perfectly good food for you Josh Isa's feelings. That's right and I have lots of. So Do I. So so the Albrecht family sits around their home getter. With closed captioning. There's only one word for those people unless you are deaf and need the close captioning. Li literally the close rushing on, but otherwise psychopaths. Yeah, what about if you're hard of hearing, NOT DEATH KNELL! No turn the volume right. You you guys. You guys are a weird family. You sit at home with closed. captioning talked about this after left and there's A. Family meeting I WANNA. Say this, so you sit there and like you're. You're watching. You're watching like friends, and you're just like this the whole time and just going from reading a teleprompter like you're reading a manifesto, I don't we don't even see them. So, why do you have a bond? And that's that was? That was the number one reason we told him laziness. The Buttons Menu Catching yes. Don You understand how laziness works? There are simple steps to fix a lot of things, but when you're lazy, you don't do them, yeah. Finds landing at heart. Don't get. Lazy? Okay you. On pause the way retired as you weren't lazy. You clean up after yourself. Because you're not lazy, you put your laundry in the laundry basket. Because you're not lazy Dole Come at me with this argument, you will lose. Josh's right thumb. That's Um that's okay. Close captioning Zoff. That's three too many choices again. Josh's right, you don't understand how laziness works. That's the Epitome of laziness something. That's easy that you still don't do is laziness. The same as you don't like what's on your? TV, but you're going to watch it anyway. Because the remote is on the other cataract. Josh, not making out of. Of Wood with his twenty-six tools for Milwaukee tools, a Nice Spice Rack is not laziness. He lacks the skills and drive, and it's hard to do him with a close cashman. CAPTIONING deathly Chris gets back to saves point. This is why the terrorists hate us right because we have closed captioning delays and I'm not going. Where do you stand on food? Sweet potato fries sweet. Potato fries not a fan getter. They're the best the only way real order French fries, the only the only not potatoes, sweet potato, sweet potato. Cry By ever see you eat a waffle fry. If I don't have. Curly fries! Sweet Potato tots there some okay, look you. Know here's the thing they insist upon. Yes, yes, a Ding Ding Ding look at me, not just fries and sweet potato fries on better better than those regular potatoes. Look at that dirty regular potato I'm gonNA heat. My sweet potato fries on my three hundred thousand dollars boat on that I'm Eric or Dirty russet potato. Exactly. Where do you stand etiquette? Where do you stand on the unapproved guy to Guy Food? Grab usually again a French fry meaning. There's your plate here. I am. Bom taken a Frie-. Not even asking guy to guy, not girlfriend, not guide a mom or dad guy to guy. French fries steel I usually don't care as long as it's not the first FRY, and it's not the last Fri-. Any middle fries, okay, yeah, I think it's absolute BS. Rundown down with a meal. Right and you go look Nice. Can I enjoy party? There's only one left. Will then I agree with Josh Allen, I, the first or last I rule I like that I never thought about that. I you last. I rule otherwise, it's okay. Where do you stand Wednesday on women? Mindy caling or Angela Kinsey from the office. You get one night with either one who you choose them. Mindy. because. Bonnier Sasser yes less uptight, less waspy, okay? I get it I'm taking Angela. Have you seen her instagram game? She's pretty strong. I just feel like her resting faces disappointment so with me. It'd be I'd be like Oh. You'd be used to it to me right? I can get that at home mindy. Mindy Kaelin cracks me up and she's a talented writer and she did so much of the writing on the office, but she doesn't really do much for me. In terms of attractiveness, so I probably Lean Angela lean on and finally. Where do you stand other? Tile floors in hotel rooms. Because we had those last night at the wonderful Oneida nation, Casino and hotel. I'm not a fan. I understand that tropical resorts where they're. You know you're coming off the beach and there's water and sand is gonNA. Tear the carpets up, but it's so hard I. Want Carpet in my hotel room. I'm okay with it. I'm really so. You were fine last night with the room. Yet. Get her. Where do you stay? I'm fine with it to you. Don't mind what about people that have hardwoods in their master bedroom at home now with close cabinet, and no, not at all. No, not at all clear. They're gonNA. Have close captioning on. Though because you guys as a all right here we go. Where do you stand Wednesday? We Got Josh Gators Rack ribs fires in at four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven three, and we'll get your. Where stands next. We're coming to you. Live from W., NFL are. In Green Bay. Wisconsin were closing in on one month until the packers report to camp and we can't wait. Have? 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Of the major sports such as the big three with basketball and. Those kind of things you know the corn dog sports I'll watch him every now and then from desperate during the summer. Yeah! But you're not. GonNa get no doubt. Get into. Yeah, come on all right media. Where do you stand on following channels on Youtube? I hit I mash the subscribe button. Yeah, but I don't mash the bell button alerts, but all subscribe so that I can then scroll down ago Oh. What's new from this guy? What's new from this channel? Get Her I don't follow very many people on Youtube I. Don't I don't think I. Follow Anyone Really. I love a lot of different people that live on Youtube, but I'll just like. Remember search video exactly I don't have Ooh, like I want to build a feat. I don't have that I would like to get my guy. Casey Stern of camera conspiracies on the show. He's funny as hell. He's such. A WEIRDO lives in Canada. His search for the perfect camera is like he's like my spirit angel. It's always something stabilizations, not that good. You know the the sensor is not big enough that have good enough frame rates for video bla-bla-bla. Women! Where do you stand on Comedian Nikki Glaser? GotTa. Look her up. Female comedians better have some heat. I don't grade on a curve. So they gotta make me really laugh and some do, but a lot of them. Don't a lot of them are like. Hey, a woman WHO's cussing! Isn't that funny? Nope you need some actual jokes. Get her get her. Yeah, I don't I mean. I'll. Watch it for thirty seconds while. Particularly Funny! No, she is attractive. She's very attractive Whitney Cummings I think she's more attractive than Whitney. Cummings. Yeah, but I don't think he's funny at all. Oh yeah their shoes. Food. Where do you stand on getting snacks or drinks out of a vending machine in hotels? I mean it's necessary, but the gouge you. Did you get one last night? I did not because they needed to have happened only. And I I didn't have any singles cash. You know I had some but not journalist. Etiquette where do you stand on compliments on golf shots? That aren't great. Like they're not the worst shot you've ever seen, but they're also not great. I'd prefer you to save it. Get her I agree. Yeah, I mean. I hit a couple of say I'm like like. COONS. What's wrong, Yeah. Meanwhile. coons hit and good drives, and he was like Oh, man and I'm like I say you're getting a little picky. Their coon. Don't yeah, I'm sure. He was he was getting picky like a tour problem like Brown. That's pretty good. There were multiple times yesterday where I obviously would hit a bad shot, but it would still be in play. That'll play well. Yeah, it'll play I. Hit it twenty yards in front of me of course little play. Play didn't work on the I know well, let's. Be You. Know why people do that. They want to be encouraging. They WANNA be like yes, yes, and etiquette thing I absolutely, but at some point it becomes patronizing and humiliating. The rather say okay, all right. Yeah, and finally. Where do you stand on carrying a backup phone battery pack with you as if it was a second bone. At that point, you should either by the Max phone with the larger battery in it where you're not gonNA, run out during a day of typical use or get mo- fee case with a battery. I I've used the case I don't really like it. 'cause it's too big and I had batteries in my my backpack I. don't care with me time so now. Personally I wear USB underwear, so there's a plug literally in my crack I is okay. It's got it's got a charge back in it and they're very comfortable. This slot is strack moisture waking. Yes, I always have at least sixty five hundred extra millions pants, millions of power. Exactly you charge it by. By the memo to self invent USB underwear. Look done. Yup, all right. That's it for me. I get what he got where where to stand on watching Darts on TV Seal later I will not, but I'll tell you the highlights. The highlights I. One hundred twenty. Highlights. The highlights were not actually sitting down. A Better Watch than bags. Highlights highlights yeah, so darts Greater Sign Kornel, the highlights. OF THE ANNOUNCER! Darts Cornhole or drinking bleach Ranko. Tricky. Yeah. He sure about that, I'm going to order the same as. All Right Fair Media, where do you stand on Sarah Spain? Spain No Talent No resume. Hack! Nice lady though she was the person that was, we were listening to you in the car. Yeah, no, thank you. you hard pass. Food, where descend on cheese Kurds I mean. It's ridiculous fried. Cheese Kurds yesterday the club. Coal Chef at the? Came out checked on US multiple times good. Fantastic. You GonNa. Resist these. No, you're not. NOPE, you eat one you're in. You're in for eleven at least. Etiquette, where do you stand on buying a round of drinks? To wonderful. I think I think depending on the situation. That's the only way to do. It agreed and didn't Jeff right basically by you two drinks every time. The beer cart came around and the car was coming around frequently us to the point where you had you had trouble Josh. You yes, had keeping up right and and it was, and he would say. You guys need another one and I would say no. We're good eight. Say All right, and then she would come past us and go. He ordered two more. Now I, said okay, he drinking. women standing Elizabeth Hurley. ageless classic wonder she is beautiful, but in no way am I obsessed with her the way you are. Oh, she's fantastic. She is your girl. She's older than me I. which is almost impossible now. And finally other. Where do you stand on sharing a room at a hotel with another dude? It happens at times I'm I. Don't mind it personally am secure in my sexuality and Man I'm not threatened by it and be. It's almost like camp. Sometimes you'll. Get a united share groomed for many times. I, don't I'm completely fine with it I don't care if it's nor one-sizing badly well. That's CPAP works. Yes, yes, it does. That's why my wife makes music at that same. There you go, okay. Where do you stand Wednesday? Let's go to the talk and text line. Four, one, four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven three. Rick Mosquito, where do you stand on using a meat thermometer when grilling steak as opposed to just eyeballing it? I don't use a meat thermometer but I understand it's the proper way. To Cook He, can you? Can you imagine if someone use it like us like to meet thermometers? That'd be crazy, right? I thought. Why have three actually? Of course you so basically you're meat is probed like an ICU patient as it sits on. More monitoring case, the first two don't work. You have a moisture probe. No, so I mean. The two that come with the girl are there for? A brisket, 'cause big you know different, and so, but then I have a an instant read when you're cooking steaks, so yeah, you need a meat thermometer, okay? All Right? Where do you stand on the poor sap? WHO's GonNa eventually date, and then marry the rocks, daughter, having to constantly look over his shoulder, 'cause all he sees is the rock. Even when he looks at her. Good, luck. You know what the best part is. Is that if you if you grew up watching the rock and his imagine some of his promos marrying his smoke show daughter. How old is his oldest daughter? I'm pretty young. But if you watch him as promos the way that he would. He would make. You seem like you're a friend and these promos Yeah Oh. That's awesome. Doesn't care, but you. Atkins let you make him do his hector at family functions. Yes, this Oh, you're my daughter's boyfriend. Say. How how would it be to have the rock as your father in law? Own My God? That'd be so great aid marrying into money. That's number one number two. You'd have the coolest asked father in law. Plus you would probably die. If, you bought it anything. But what? If what? If his daughter was a real entitled Princess Bitch and she was a real hard one to handle, and so therefore there she is okay she's going to be a wrestler. She's already and she's training policy eighteen. Okay still way too young to even talk about, but still. That'd be so cool having the rock a father in law. Don't you think she would get treated as soon? As all women should like this guy better. Take care of her, because if you screw up. Yeah, you got the rock come. With the rockets exactly right, it'd be better than that. Be having mankind as your father. just put it that way. four one four. Where do you stand on Doug Gottlieb? I Know Doug, a little bit I think there's a little bit of mutual respect. I think Doug is very smart. I think he is not afraid to speak his mind I. think like any host. He's going to anger people at times. He's made some mistakes. He's owned up to the fact that when he was at Oklahoma state, he got no whereas the kicked out for stealing credit cards at Notre. Dame I believe then ended up at Oklahoma State when he played college basketball. He's one of the few guys who is good enough on the radio that you wouldn't know that. He played college basketball. And yet he actually played at a high level division. Want he did leave? Notre Dame Hill so I'm I'm fine with them. But not every not everybody likes him which is fine, four one four. Where do you stand on fake boobs? Well, just say you know what. To me. I'll fake real like I'm not a guy that says Oh, if they're fake, I'm not interested. Sometimes, the fake ones are better. We you know real boobs, their actual flesh and fatty deposits and overtime gravity does a hell of a number on them. Gravity gravity, age skin loosening. You know there's a reason why the best plastic surgeons make millions of dollars. A year is that they're able to go ahead and. Help out the front court so I'm fine I'm a fan as long as they're proportionate, you know and there's good jobs and there's bad jobs on that Part. Ron Swanson. Where do you stand on writing shopping carts as an adult man? Oh, you got! It especially when he got a real heavy cart. That can yes keep it flat. All you ride, take advantage of you ride. In fact, you get on the back of it, you push it and then you put your arms out like this Josh like you're Leonard Leonardo di Caprio in titanic. Amis says, where do you stand on an adult star? Slash Sirius Xm fantasy sports radio host Lisa. An November haven't heard her, but she's trying to parlay the fact that yes, you want saw her naked, and maybe did some things in your room tissues, and now she's talking fantasy. You should really start Big Ben this weekend. Okay, thanks a lot Lisa and Listen to charge instead. Chris from Madison says, can we please get the players to play out the guy who sunk boat in two vehicles when he calls his insurance company to report the incident discipline instinct. Yes, that would be a good safe house. Players maybe do that tomorrow and we got more time. Okay. KB? Is Up next the professor. We must tread lightly on around at Green, Bay Country Club. Because K B being a big golfer I'm sure is a little bit cheesed. He was not involved and we apologize. You loved it. He may have played GB before. So we'll talk to him about the upcoming baseball season of he has thoughts on that since that has now been green lit, and really what happened in the bubble Wallis news story from NASCAR, or was it just a story too good to check when it comes to the way? The media was hungry for a story like this. They could use Hashtag content. We'll talk to the professor next. Don't go away. Dot Com. Is brought to you by Tilton windows, doors and more. They've got while you're looking for. Class is in session. Really seems to care. What I have no idea it's time for life one one. Streams recall that. All you can't play with it. You won't enjoy it on many levels I do. Now with the say, here's your Professor Katie. You hear you hear him on afternoon. Drive withdrawals, but he is here to help. Explain Life part-time professor over at Marquette content ideation marketing viral campaigns. You name it. Good morning, Katie how we doing. What's going on brother man, so you like a good golf story, right? Yes, you have one I do. McCain yesterday uncorked beauty. From one of his many. Opulent. Guy Trips playing golf. All over the country. Has Played Augusta five seven times. Oh, well what? He was telling it last night after the round Kaby. He didn't have a firm number on the Times. He's played. Augusta and that is what I call tag life goals. We Law Humble. Brag right when you've lost track of how many times you've played the most exclusive hard to get on course, the mythic white wail of. Then you know you're doing well. But John is a great guy, really loves golf, good player into it and easygoing, so of course he's GonNa. Get invited, so he's on a guy trip with a Iran Rogers and a bunch of other packers like three or four day weekend. And Iran. Gives coon. He buys him a brand new. This is several years ago, buys him a brand new tailor-made M, three driver now, young, bitter, here, former tailor-made Rep. said the M three driver was. Minus how many lighters did you have on that about seven that had to? Anyway it was not necessarily the best one, but but Rogers gives coon. This driver buys it for him. GIVES TO HUGO JK. Enjoy this man. And he and he got up like a chicken head cover. It was an inside joke, so he called it the chicken stick. And gave it to them right at the start of the trip. So John Kuhn then starts hitting another range and it's. Dead Right. Dead left! Doesn't feel good. So, he's not like in a very much. Go Out, and they start first round of this wonderful long guy's golf trip and some incredible place courses. And he starts pulling three would. On more than one occasion. 'cause the driver just doesn't work. Not for him at least okay, that's when Aaron Rogers. says. Hey Johnny. Where's the chicken? Stick man? And Kuhn then said I quickly realized. Even though I didn't want to, and it was the first day of a four-day guy trip. I better hit the driver that my hall of fame quarterback. Gifted the fullback. On the Green Bay packers. Just these any played the whole weekend with a driver that he hated, but it was like it came from Aaron. Rodgers was going to do not play it. Now. Of course you're going to play it absolutely greatest that that is hilarious. That rogers like hey, buddy, how you doing. You know rhymes being the perfectionist and detail oriented. Like. How come, John's not getting the driver I bought for him. That, thought had set up three degrees open. May. Maybe that's the case you say. Who knows he's? The hell would have. Hey twelve. Got One of the wrenches to move one of the sliders on this I seem to be. Just a bit. Yeah I don't have that John Sorry but good luck with it. All right so last he's. He's been on so many cool trips and we had a great time at Green Bay. Country Club. You've not played it yet. You will, and you'll love it. It is credible course I was supposed to play with you guys yesterday, and then I bailed because it was only going to be our second day on Green Bay W. NFL! Like yeah, that's a good thing. Let's just. Second Day of the show. Yeah, I'm out I'm going to play golf, but did you get permission? Yeah I had permission, and then I. Actually won't because it's was their second day on with W NFL. Relentless pro well, you know what the course you have to play up there and get her attest to this and I played it in college all the time. I've played Oneida there. But I haven't played thornberry Creek, but I've played in in college all the time. I used to play Brown county. It's fantastic and it makes it a lot better than brown deer. I'm going to go with better than around here. And they've done a lot of work on it recently, too, so yeah, it's it's up. There I would say there a very very very comparable. And it's like thirty bucks. It's like yeah same. It's well, we'll we'll. We'll get you up here, but Yeah next time. Don't be shocked. Come on, let's go play golf. Life is short I do. It's a second day I know I. Know if it's the third day, maybe I screw around, but the second. Come on. That's your. Everybody has a lot of cable news. Date. Is Day three Yes, indeed can date versus third day like when you go. Oh by the way I forgot to mention. We saw one Matt Laugh. Her two groups behind us and his brother and his brother, and of course everyone is kind of doing double takes in the parking lot, because it's like who is that devilish Lee handsome trim, young men why? That looks like the Co to the Green Bay packers. And sure enough you just playing with his brother, two groups behind, and as we were looping back in the front nine, he's spotted Janis like donny how you doing. And they went over and talked together, and I resisted the urge. Kaby I hope you're proud of me. To clump over and go who? Elected introduce myself. On a radio show may did josh and then take a picture and rack focus the background. Why do you? Why do you think I would do that? I don't know it's pretty much every picture you take. That selfie took us at Brown deer. He claims he accidentally hit portrait mowing wouldn't which did rack focus me and everyone else outfit soggy poke? Yes, it was in focus and I was not as imperfect focus as you were. He claimed it was an accident. Right away, it said portrait mode right when you open up. You said it was a hasty thing. I don't. Even know the food was there until way after. Ahead of us, but you might have. You might have done that. John was there and and I steered clear KB unlike. I don't need to talk to floor. Hell I WANNA call for Florida. Get fired. You know I don't WanNa get involved in this, you know I mean I savage McCarthy, for years and I'm sure. John! Kuhn loves McCarthy. The best part was. Tune I walked a couple of holes, and we're walking up from the first hole, the second green. We talked about the and he's like yeah I didn't really want to go talk to him because he's A. He's a bit long winded and we didn't have a lot of time. And then he goes dozen the fifth hole and he's like he said to me like yeah I was waiting for you guys and I heard one hit, and then two minutes, and then three heads, and he's like art coach. I gotta go well. That's the good excuse to disengage. Anyway absolutely. -solutely. What do you think is the lesson the net net of this new story? With Baba Wallace. You understand the current day and age we're living in. And the way media works and social media. I mean. To me, there's two takeaways one NASCAR as too cheap to have keypad. Automatic Garage Doors. They got a stupid rope on him to pull them up and down. That's number. One number two is fifteen FBI agents took time out of their day to go down. Investigate this. I would love to know the conversations between agents say. Three through fifteen. What did they do other than? Hustle up donuts and coffee. Well I mean. You got you here. Noose, you hear Nascar you're right I. mean it's a natural reaction to send people, wouldn't you thank of you're in the south? Mean there's a storied history of bad things. And but when? When I heard it was a robot garage door and it was like really someone was. Concerned about that right sure if you went up and down the. Sherve. You went up and down the aisle. There were a lot of them like they need a loop to pull something down. Sure I would certainly hope in this day and age. No one would go there, but I'm and I'm sure there are other knots that the Eagle Scouts. At the Talladega right whatever they were racing could probably pull it off, but you mentioned how like. Because of NASCAR, and because of the fact, they are trying to present a more opening and welcome face to the world. That this was a story that was too good to check. Almost it was too perfect almost right. Well, I mean we're talking about an organization dedicating good I. Mean Perfect for the narrative, not yet ignored I. mean perfect for the narrative is like wow, weaken cause media has to get clicks and eyeballs and engagement and people stirred up and this was gold Kaby. I mean and it was set up to to be the case because you know you're talking about an orchid. The excuse me an. Asian that waited till what two weeks ago to ban the confederate flag right of drag their feet on that one. And Don't you think well? They I think they had done something to limit its inclusion, although didn't the army doesn't the army still have some remnants of the confederate flag in some of their insignias, logos and flags? Then, they may get the most alarming thing about this to me. Was the fact that I don't follow? NASCAR and I didn't know bubba Wallace was African American I thought bubble was a bubba yeah. I thought it was a good old boy i. thought he was a good old boy running moonshine. You know like those right i. You know what I mean, and and then it's like okay well. I learned something there about NASCAR and and most. At this point shouldn't people go you know what we jump to conclusions? Shouldn't you own because there's a lot of spinning now? And there is now a spitting in which if you even hint that bubble might have set this up Allah. Jussie smollet in any way shape or form, or if he didn't set it up if he ran with it knowing full well. Yeah, that's really just a garage pole, but it looks like a new so I'm going to go with it. He's going to be painted as the victim. How about just owning up to yeah? We kinda jumped the gun. We should do better next time. Yeah, I mean I. Don't know, but. I can't tell not being sensitive to that, but I think someone would know. If it was small enough that you could use, it would be like. Hang a squirrel or something you know. Why would you do that? You SICKO. No. Know garage tie right if it's a garage rope, it can't be that big, but we're not sensitive to stuff like that because you know it. Doesn't you know we just in our history? So I you know I don't now. So. It's a weird. Not I'll grant you that I don't see hangman's nooses pretty much anywhere and I'm not sure why they couldn't tie to SIP now or not. Main how many knots got other than the movie homeland right? You. Tie Right now, Katie. I can tie my shoes. I can tie a double night. I could tell you a Windsor Knot I can tell you a bow. Not How white is that all right? Josh and he goes. How many knots can you tie right now? Not when you were earning your badge? The same like. Three hundred five. bow ties shoes square. Not Fisherman's not all you can do square nut in the fisherman's now. Square knots easy. That's basic, not yeah, yeah. I know yeah, no score nuts, but it is a double loop type thing right? What's what's the dumb? Not The only one I can tie cross him through. What's that? That's what it's called. The Dumdum knockout the cross. The cross the. Crossing, okay, where do you stand Wednesday? Where do you stand on taking a picture? With a cart girl! Party foul, creepy old man! Don't do lutely. What if she's really fun? And is totally cool with it. You Know Yeah I? Mean I suppose you. Could you could I tend to chat up the cart girls, but only you know I'll say hey. Where you go to school. Blah Blah Blah. It's only because I want them coming coming back to me quicker. About ladies, meaning thirty or older, sir, you're not being creepy old man where you're like Oh this girl's twenty two I'm going to take a photo. You know what the odds of pulling a cart girl off the courts are. Okay so. It's. Creepy Oh. Man, okay. Flirting. Flynn yeah, but I mean sometimes sometimes. Don't you WANNA? Say to your buddies man. You should have seen the card girl at this course she was like ten. And then you don't have a photo to prove it, and it's just now an urban legend that this. If you start throwing photos out of cart, girls, okay, I'm thinking there's an issue. Okay all right. We know we're not now, yeah. No I wouldn't do it. Well. Where do you stand on carton is? Thirty seconds. I start I stand farther away than they do from the girls. Does the beer taste as good when a dude is running, the beverage operation is there's no is there? They're very rare. It's very rare to even see one like the girl oats guy well lots beginning in the end of the year when they haven't hired for the summer right. Is there anything better than a great looking card girl with a heavy right hand? nope. Narrates top five all time worldwide. I will see you up here. Yes, it'll town USA the home of the Green. Bay Packers the chosen franchise, the ownerless chosen ones of the NFL, so we're playing this afternoon. Off Day! Okay get arrested at wrist. It's got rests for tomorrow. There's some sort of phantom injury. Okay. Keep talking body. I hope I hope you get a bad one knee back neck. Something I. Wish upon you all playing golf. You son of a bitch kb your thank you. Questioning my status, please never who am I. Quick pick the most injured packer of all time that new I really you're hurt again around the injured list trump. Buckley was her event. Coming up eight o'clock Hour Matt Miller is GonNa. Join us and we got a great story about a dumpster swimming. Pool? You heard that right dumpster swimming pool. Be Shocked to find out where it was. You don't need to say more than that club dumpster that story and more next take kids. We got baseball coming were excited and we are gonNA. Get sports back up and running our three live from W. NFL here in Green Bay. State. This is the Steve Sabin show now? Here is the save. Baseball, season is on. Players have agreed. They got testing protocols. They gotTA. Start date. One week players have to report to camp. July first which is, let's see. Today's the twenty four, th so one to. Seven days a week. So what next Tuesday? The report to training camps in Florida and Arizona? Two. Spots! For the Karenzi's July first Wednesday July first okay. There's still people out there going well. I'm glad baseball's coming back, but keeping it back. That's going to be a challenge. Here's how it's GonNa work people follow along. You test positive. We put aside. When you're done being put aside for whatever amount of time Dr Fao. She thinks is a right. You come on back. We keep testing. We keep quarantining. And we move on. Shutting it down again is not an option. But what about competitive balance may have you heard? It's a sixty game season. Have you heard they're gonNA have runners at second base to start extra innings. Have you heard that the schedule is going to be waited on geographic considerations to reduce travel? Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Okay then. If it happens, it happens. Novak Djokovic tested positive as well as his wife. And, he apparently held a charity. Tennis Tournament. That was kind of tennis, tournament and a party. Over in Europe and some people are time, said irresponsible. You shouldn't have done that. and. He kind of apologized. Yeah thought it was okay to do that. No word if he's GonNa play in the US Open just yet, but I would say this. Novak Djokovic she wasn't thrilled about having to get a vaccine for this thing boom don no problem. Apparently not. Going elderly sick. I think he's as symptomatic or something else so. There's my thought on that baseball's coming back. Get excited. We gotTA start date. It's GONNA to be a month from now. I know get it. We gotta do the Darrow. Difference here you making all these frampton oceans that I'm trying to entrust in the middle like the window. Message and before we continue on, please okay. Oh. I see that okay. Well we gotta do it because we teased it so anyway. The dumpster pull story. Is a classic, even though it's from two thousand sixteen inch I see, it just popped up on Barstool sports yesterday. Yeah, because barstool sports employs bloggers to find stories during a sports pandemic to get clicks and people talking and this did his job, but okay fine, so you guys saw story about somebody who created a pool. Out of a dumpster, yeah! Talk to me, yeah, so it happened in the lovely city of Philadelphia shocker. And they they needed. They needed pool and they saw dumpster and went. Oh the light shinedown down. They went this. Zinn, this is our moment. It's a big square box. We can rip the lid off it. It's at least four feet deep, probably at the highest right, and now I'd smell of age, but okay. They put some pool noodles and a piece of plywood and a tarp down. That was the bottom of the pool, so the tarp lined it. Yes, I thought they would used. Flexible? Hi, I'm Phil Swift for Fleck. Steel me turns a screen door into a bottom right. That, dumpster now pool. Thanks to flex seal. Instead, they put a tarp inside with a plywood bottom. Power washed it out to keep you know to make it as whatever and pretty quickly the town council. Where was this? Philly so the Philly, they said okay. Apartment of licenses inspections Karen. Gusts says the city will not issue permits for block party. Dumpster pools were not screwing around Philly. She added. That said Philly. No dumpster pools. My foot, our not screwing around. Looking at this picture, that's fantastic. I mean that that dumpster. Hold a good amount of water. It's like hot TUB. Sized although my God. Look at the Buffet Grazer in the front. That's. She looks I. is that a dude or is that? A girl has gone looks like she's been eating out of dumpsters. Perhaps Hey, they only had to fill it half full. Because would have been overflowing otherwise. Carla wwl, dot, com, talk and text line Chris and Brookefield. What do you mean by some? People's eight about keeping baseball going. Do you mean Drew Olson? Was On team virus. That's okay, concerned man. is a man of science. He's probably gonNA a mock Mayo. Doesn't care about this thing I care about it, but a mold. That more realistic, four one four. Where do you stand on continuing to play the baseball season? If a player. Dies. Of Kobe nineteen. Well, that's not gonNA happen. That's a good quote. Well, you never know never know it's a good question. I say if it's a arbitration eligible, only non tendered fulltime player mightily. Call Up, he playing. It's an all star. I'd say we take a week off and mourn. And if it's a hall of fame caliber player. Then will cancel. The rest. You Bastard. How dare you calibrate what we might do in such an extreme outlier of a case I'm sitting here going. What he's saying, don't. Listen. I mean that's a fair question I well. It's a question. But I'm going to answer your question with another question. If. You're worried about a player dying. Playing baseball professionally. What about a player who's not playing their sport? Who Dies getting the virus from the grocery store. Or a gas pump. Or walking around on a dog trail What then right I think that's the biggest takeaway. From all of this is that. There's it's not like. A, baseball player is going to get corona virus because he's playing baseball, right, people can get this virus. Numerous ways exactly so it's the fact they're playing. Baseball isn't going to be the cause of the virus. In fact I would say baseball players have an advantage on the general population in that they will be more sequestered doing their job right than the general population and they'll be tested more. So! There'll be increased surveillance of them to catch it to nip. NIP IT in the bud. It'll be the safest thing they do. For the next four months, and also if you've looked at the examples of athletes, coaches, people in the sports world that have gotten corona virus as of late. I mean it was different with Sean. Payton when Colonel Virus the whole scare I happen, but lately, if if a player gets it or an athlete gets it it. The. The report is usually. This person got grown virus. There feeling fine like right. It's that quick of FIG. They'll in the same headline right now doesn't mean you can't have a bad outcome. It is a bit of a roll, the dice, but getting back to the original question. How are you going to be able to? With one hundred percent certainty determined that the baseball player God. You can't. Write I, don't. You can't help. That's that's the thing. And there's two realities that those team virus have got to get their head around one. This is as good as it's GonNa get for quite some time because I don't how? He said there could be a vaccine as soon as January. Really. That's effective like that'd be a world record for vaccines. Then you know. He's got some insider trading. A vaccine their back pocket, or ramping up like me because he's been kind of in front of this, and he's been of pro virus, and so did you also hear him say that? The vaccine is down by the lake. It is down. Santa Fe right here. Right and there's. A long line to get it as well. It's down where I'm parked. This is as good as it's going to get for some time, so you have to take that into account, and secondly like you said that the playing of sports may be the safest thing you can do with all the precautions now. Basketball and football where you're grinding up against other men sweaty. Sound sexy, doesn't it and see right? Football players closed confines in locker rooms where staph infections and other stuff gets passed around Blah. Blah Blah. That is going to pose challenges, but they're gonNA work through it. I think they're gonNA find ways to mitigate it, you know. Maybe they have less contact in the preseason. Go slowly walk I. Then Run. Figure it out. But those are too hard realities along with reality of this thing. Is apparently getting less and less deadly as the months go on because of either the virus weakening a bit, there is a Italian doctor who believes that the viruses potency is weakening. There's also the possibility very real that like all viruses. What do they do I? They plucked the low hanging fruit. They get the easy buckets corey. covid nineteen got a bunch of layups against nursing homes, and you're like okay nice game. Probably should've guarded those international dimensional rare right, but but now you're starting to get into the harder targets, the young, the healthy, the athletes whatever and you're not shooting nearly as well right now. Anyway if you are immuno-compromised or just, don't feel safe, absolutely be take precautions. Hunker down as much as you can tell a work wear masks where masks shields do what you need to do I. Don't begrudge you of that. But the rest of the world has got to stand up in March at some point. Sports is realizing that baseball has an urgency. Now of we gotta play. What about the entertainment World Matt Miller will join US next to talk about Hollywood. Television movies at Cetera and can we get Matt Miller to weigh in on the fate of one Jimmy Kimmel. Yes, for sure Oh. 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Good Morning Mr Meller. Howdy howdy howdy. Another week has gone by. And what feels like an interminable groundhog day? From Hell. Do we have one week later? A ray of hope on the entertainment front. On the backside of this pandemic. Matt Miller. It's the Bill Murray Ground I. Feel like we're listening to a Shit Sonny and Cher every morning. Exactly Ned Ryerson. Yeah, but Unfortunately it's. It's kind of the same thing. I know I mean. We've got ten coming at the end of the month, but I saw. Yesterday that New, York, their their current phase, the phase that they're gonna be going into is not going to include movie theaters. And and that is a problem because New York is about ten fifteen percents of be national. Box Office growth rights. Theaters. It's a lot of people, so we can't. We can't just say well good thing. We don't live in new. York if new. York is sick. We're in quarantine to a certain extent, because the big theaters or the the big studios aren't GonNa Release blockbusters if they have a huge chunk of the market unable to see. Exactly ten if I mean all ready a tough go for something like it, because it's already I mean even if you're not new, York, you're still probably dealing with movie theaters with maybe only one third to half capacity right now, so they're already kind of stretching. I probably fascinated to see if the studios are just like writing these movies off just like we know, we're not going to make our money back. At that point, just the latest movie I just don't understand like. It. In the case of just moved the movie to December, you certainly have in the case of one brothers, they doom movie, coming out on Christmas, no longer excited about the movie right now. The movies probably not even done yet. You've done no advertising for it. Just move Christmas and move to next year. It's just move, so move forward. Some of the pig movies, so we can. At least we have to get as I like to call it from Saving Private Ryan. We gotta get dog one open. And it's a fight just like the opening scene. Tom Sizemore Tom Hanks, finally screamed dog. One is now open year blasted out the the machine gun nest on top, and they're like. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go i. get the hesitation. I get the dynamic of the major studios. Don't WANNA waste huge movies with big budgets on a thirty percent capacity. Some states are open. Some are not I. Get it I get it, but we gotta get it open. We gotta get people back in theaters. I want to get back in theaters all the crappy movie right now if you put it in a theater, I will. I do think what I'd love to see more of his first of all I'd love to see some smaller films. Come out so that these movie theaters. If something you'd actually show, 'cause right now. They're showing a lot of. Stuff shown the Harry Potter movies I believe they're going to get some of the the Nolan Batman movies this weekend. which okay, that's fun. It'd be cool to see some of those on the big screen again, but people want to spend their money on new things policy new entertainment and I'd love to see some studios and some theaters take some risks on some smaller new movies. And that's what they're going to have to do. I think 'cause. I wouldn't mind. Just give me a little indie film. Right maybe has a nine one one time travel plot to it. How we. Got, it. I touched on this last week to I want to see hitters and studios take driving seriously as an option. I've been. Bro. Crowd pro your your typewriter salesman. In an age of matchbooks stop it all right I. Know You love Drive Ins. Happening mobile typewriter salesman during a time when `electricity doesn't exist. ooh! Gotcha turn serve on that one. Wow, okay. Yeah I. Know. What you're gonNA need a typewriter right now, so I love to see them actually treat that as a stopgap, or but as an actual place where if if you're GONNA release tenant next month. Why not really sound some driving screens? You know it. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than probably one filled audience where everyone's looking around anxiously and and people just don't feel like. They're at a movie theater the way they used to. Aim at you mentioned Batman before. What about the Michael Keaton coming up, but Batman and the flash. Interest I mean this is about the fourteenth time they've tried to make the slash movie. They've gone through about seventeen directors and only mildly being ridiculous with that number The Star of the movie last time he was in the news because he choked a woman at a party or something like that. And that's terrible and and you're talking about the wrong thing. Michael, Keaton. That man back. Makes Moody Good. Josko seen who will. One would hope I mean. This is what my thinking is on this. He's going to appear in the movie for like thirty seconds. Okay, it'd be like. Teasing it Matt is enough to get me to go. See The flash movie in a theater. They're just desperate to give you something interesting to talk about. Where it's working, it's working. And I usually I'll be honest. This is my spicy hot take I'm tired of seeing characters from the older movies comeback. Give me new things I'm tired like. You know. It was like when J J J. J. Joan Jameson showed up at the end of the last spiderman movie and everyone lost their mind. Just like. Give me a new thing. This would have been very well I. Don't know I'm tired of them. Just pandering to be and be like hey, remember this person existed and I'm like yeah gives me new things. Cheating forever, how about how about we play a quick impromptu game of worst of for franchise movies such as worst Batman. Who is the worst Batman Val Kilmer? Probably be Clooney Clooney's. Is Very stiff worst bond Daniel Craig. No, no It's hard I'm trying to think I'm not I don't dislike. Dudley Moore earned that Roger. Moore Dudley Mark. Was! Almost All the time he crashed, all the special callers didn't kill anybody. Very UN spy like we can all agree definitely more. What's the worst? Okay, so? That was a toss. Okay. Very bumbling as James, bond yeah, I don't love the campy bond movies, so Roger Moore is. Thick. With that aren't one of the franchise's. Could we play worst of Superman worst? Okay? We're superman go. I'm probably Dean taint other TV show. Probably Right. Bad for the guy for hundred 'cause ill because I think. A pretty good actor, but given his spiderman. Superman, he's so. Making them angsty. Superman has not worked out. That's not why people like Superman angsty superman. How about Superman, who becomes a social media influence her, and is obsessed with his accounts and his likes I know this will be the new mocking Zave plotline to nine eleven. You know how like my body now goes into a mode to stop him from saving the nine eleven I travel, because I just think he's always GonNa go to nine eleven time travel. Tense new identity in the new Spiderman Superman means an instagram model. He's gossip girl. Yeah it's an influence there and he's. Superman? How about Superman with burner account defending superman. When people like Kevin Durant? Yeah, like Kevin Durant one of A. Had A burner. Social media account that he was constantly using because he didn't like any negativity around the. Clark Kent Basically Superman is real life burner count because it doesn't. Really Great Superman like Peter Parker. He's basically spider-man's burner account so human. I'm going to pivot. About Let's. Go. Let's let's talk about Jimmy Kimmel Matt. Oh Boy, I thought. Serious stuff right at the end so talk to us about how you think this is going to go down after. Everything! That's happened with Jimmy Kimmel so far. I think Jimmy. Kimmel will probably be fine I. Think a lot of people know that this current campaign right now is being led by people, not truly concerned about him wearing black face, but in a lot of cases. It's a lot of them just trying to. You know trying to retaliate against him in a lot of. which what's different about Jimmy Kimmel situation than any of these other people that have had their cases blown way out of proportion with no room for. We forgive you and we'll move on what what makes you kimmel different? I think honestly a lot of it. Is that the people leading the charge against Jimmy Kimmel, or doing it in bad faith? I. That's but that's how it is with a lot of these these people that are going after taking down statues, and a lot of these people don't understand or are knowledgeable I. I think I see the same thing happening to Jimmy Kimmel. I don't think anyone is safe now. He's not going anywhere, you say. He's to success for five years ago. I WANNA say yeah. Successful. They've certainly right, but the clips are from twenty five years ago on a show called the man show, which everyone's known about as being problematic since. Back when it first existed, people were probably still like so I I think he's probably fine I think he could probably stand to have another apology or two when he comes back on the show insurance. Policy you're oh well? Yeah, if he says sorry two more times, then he's fine. Court yeah not a bad time. No for three months vacation. I, mean he? He's lucky that Mel Gibson so Tories came up, so people kind of moved up, yeah. All right. Anything else summer fest confirmed six headliners for next year. Yes twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty one is going to. We're going to be nuts next year. We're going to step you able to go out again. And people are going to lose their minds next year, just being outside and being in crowd. We May. We may never survive twenty twenty one mud right party, right I wanNA see Wanna see a chart of deaths from partying too hard in two thousand twenty one. You'll be a spike next year hopefully as the world is back to semi normal, least or full normal people like us. Yellow Baby I'm not waiting for the next pandemic to have fun. I WanNa see a an expert. Come Out, be like we need to flatten the curve on. Partying are partying too hard. That guy will get flattened like Dallas got her with a sucker punch. You Ain't flattening my fund Mr All right Matt Miller at a man about film read his stuff at on the walkie dot com as always. Thank you appreciate it. Thank you. Him and his drive-ins. Good luck. The best heard the best part of drive ins were the smooching smooching and the grabbing. The! The movie The legalize to grab it, you WANNA go. Blonde to you need to. You need to seek active and continuing consent. Is this still okay right? I'M GONNA. Put my arm around your shoulder. Is that okay? You feel comfortable. I am now going to move it down and just rush your breast. Is that okay? That's how Julie and I do it and every time she says No. Okay I am now going to move it over to your. Stop Oh. Is that good for you. And done and see. There, you go! All right right coming up. What we have left on the cutting room floor, mop up. The show's gone by so quick today. We're so lucky and glad to be here at W.. NFL in Green Bay Wisconsin and John Kuhn will follow us and maybe dispute. Some stories told on the golf course yesterday, but we'll see about that. One more segment to go. Don't go. You're listening to the Steve Zaven show right here on the game. Katie. Our final segment here W dot, com, talk and text line is. Busy today love it. Thank you guys for chiming in. By the way we have. One one spot for some left get on a first annual 97.3 the game. Hattie Day Tournament Laureus. Thursday July thirtieth at Washington County Golf course it is a come one. Come all for manned scramble. Benefits The make a wish foundation, and we're GONNA have a great time. CADDYSHACK themed rules. Regulations tweaks wrinkles. The format still TB competition committee will hunker down now figure that out. It's going to be a good time. That's all we know so one spot is left. Chop Chop! Don't miss out? This one from the two six two good morning. Jeff Spear Cart gals are commonly known as. Quench Wenches well. That's not politically correct. Or Nice not anymore. PS, they use a Wisconsin beer cart. Girls are there is a Wisconsin beer cart girls, championship. Held in Beaver dam. I heard that the winner gets to go to the yacht club. Doing I. Don't know if they still do this, but it actually originated at scenic view This is one I was involved with that company that owned those golf courses and. It was more than just the voting on them like they did actual. Competition like they had here's so they had to stock beverage cards. There's a race to stock. The beverage cart was a timed race. They had to drive through the parking lot at. Scenic view through cones with the beverage car funny, and then back it up and I. that's all part of the job being able to get past carts on narrow in court paths and everything else and they had they had to I think the end of that one that had the back the card up as close to. They could to a cone. In a hidden egg on top of the cone. If you hit the cone fell off, then you. You lost your deducted some points. That's all well and good, but was there. A swimsuit portion of the company was not so no. That's not really a pageant. was there a speech portion? There was Yup. Yes they sat. They sat down on a director's chairs and ask questions. Yes, that did happen there she is. It's it's a tough gig. because. You're not kidding rich, although he can do well with tips, you have to be friendly and engaging flirt. But also recognize when there are really drunk, really dirty, old man who? Are, crossing boundaries and then Kinda back off from that. Pass them. Right. Just. Keep going. Don't make contact, thank. Exactly anyway found the eighteen hottest beer cart quenches to attend each gals at the tee box. Participants voted for the four hottest and then dinner. They awarded the champion. Trophy okay. Enough this one morning boys I assumed you mentioned the Buffalo News earlier. Yes, we did open the show with it. You missed it game and sixty tonight six young probably hear it when I first heard about it. I was shocked, but then a flash doubt went through my mind why I thought he use Abe saying to Josh all the time. First question is, is it a work? Work Right after hearing the results today I just laughed I. Thought I was just being cynical, but in today's world you have to be just WANNA. Share my sh wanted to share my hearing of the Voice of Zave in the back of my head when that story came out for the record I. Don't think it was a work. No, I think it was a you know what? I'm triggered by this door handle. And I'M NOT GONNA stop and slow down to go wait a minute. Are these on all the doors? Was this here before I'm going to run with it. I think Bubba Wallace got caught up a bit his feelings. And he ran with it and by the time you ran with it. NASCAR was like well. We're not going to slow the brakes on this. We're not going to say hey man. We gotta do an investigation. I was bubble Wallace's truth as they say, and so they put out a statement, and by then it was the gunshot went off. The dogs had left the garage and they were out hunting. The Fox and it was too late to stop it if It was a misunderstanding that was handled terribly by everyone involved, but net net. Was it good for NASCAR. Oh I disagree. At this point. Oh, they had this huge ramp of that just fell off I. think it's good because Nascar can still say we did the right thing sure we overreacted, but we are doing it on the side of truth and Justice and Social Justice, so we do it again. If that's the case, their name is in the news. They know bubba Wallace is. The driver's got to show. Hey, we're a big family here. You know the sport itself. We're doing all we can to. To push forward for racial justice, so I think it's a win for NASCAR in the end getting back to your question, who's most responsible for leading the Bubba Wallace News story spin out of control on NASCAR, coming in at eighteen percent sports media thirty bubba Wallace at six. So all of them is leading the way at forty six percent sixteen hundred bolts on there was it was a cat. Nip Story that the media said We. We can't wait for this to have countered. counterintuitive fax. We can't wait to talk about like we're in. Let's go go go go, so there's my net net on that otherwise I don't really care to chase this stick as I like to say. Sometimes like a dog on the Porch said you know. It just doesn't fulfill me. I want to talk about sports. Talk about the game's being back. I won't talk about the sixty game baseball season. I want to talk about our darrow difference maker, though right now. Tammy is nominating Tina from. Tina is the founder of just listen INC in. MEK, one. Just listen offer support and resources for those addicted by affected by addiction. Tina. Unconditionally, and works tirelessly to help the addiction community while working with people in learns the addiction lifestyle habits, body, language, interest, dislikes and triggers. She learns about who they are in their hopes and dreams, and why they feel, they make the choices they do with their permission. 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And Louder ear buds. In. What did he say? I was about to put partition up, so we could just block them off. Like the limo driver has spinal right. Chance. These rockstars they don't get it. You know they just didn't understand the Callahan. Good stuff there, what is What do we to talk about today? On the show, anything of note, anything of News, anything essential. Blah Blah Blah covered so much ground today panic. Exciting level on baseball scale of one to ten ten, being excited as you were getting ready for game, seven of the NLC s at home against the dodgers. I hate to bring up Info situation but I'm thinking peak baseball frenzied Horny nece in Milwaukee in our lifetimes That's a ten yeah. One was maybe a week ago. When like screw, both these guys where we at right now I think I'm gonNA three and rising. I've okay so right now. I am a five. Because, it's not here yet. The NHL NFL? MBA, they've all said they have plants, but I'm not seeing anything yet. So I'm just that like a five well. Baseball now joins the NHL and the NBA with firm dates. Yum, reporting dates training camp dates and start dates, but until I'm watching sports that counts towards a season statistic. You won't believe it right, okay? I've just been waiting too long when it starts when I see the actual first-pitch. Going to be, an, eight. And not even just for the brewers baseball general so few games. Yeah, let's go to sprint. Let's get up and go get. Where do you stand? Where do you stand? I'm still at about four I. don't I, don't. You think you'll bore and holding or a foreign rise. I think foreign holding to be honest with you so even when it starts, he's. Still thinking you'll be at a four. I think so I'm. I'm really at the whole time. I was like I'm with my season tickets I'm I'm just GonNa? You know? Put all that money towards here and now I think I might just get the money back. It'd be like maybe go next year, but in three hundred thousand dollars boat. Yes, exactly. which by the way the boat that we were talking about in what's trending body My one buddy texted me instead of here. What did they call it a skimmer boat? they're the only wake board. Wake boat wake boat made out of aluminum. So that's why they are that expensive. Oh, 'cause aluminum. Josh gold very hard to find aluminum right nowadays beer cans, Yep, like three hundred grand. So. There's no way that there's that much tehnology El Cam boat. You know what they say. Evan Rude with a Hall I. Bet You I. Bet you the guy from from the sealant Phil swept. You could make better. Wake boat not sent out of glue. No, you can't a screen door an Evan root for fifty you know. What was that? What was that brand of clothing that we were talking about that? Just had the name of the brand on it. That was it that sold in New York for like. That sold out of. Ryan they had for like where the a thousand dollars. Price was the feature right was not a deterrent. That's what these boats are. There's no reason that they should be that much, but they just are because for some reason, some people with way too much money buying. Back. Most importantly, we've got to find a way to drag old colonel Christian. Hague out of the lake in. Madison Manana Larry's Noda. We think he's in Lake Minolta. He's not in a capital he. Earned like Manila heavy. Is that thing NPR? You or something like that? Also the forward statue, which the you looked up the name of the artist I think we mentioned the artist Jean Pond Gene Pond. Did it correct? She's the artists. It's just a it's a, but it's just a nameless woman. Bayless woman has Wisconsin was about advancing. Dancing throwing these things in a lake is going backwards. Let's stop it. Let's get them out of the lake. This clean them up. Unless defend them. All right. Nine to noon with Kuhn is next. We'll talk to johnny straight at five. Do. This is? It's disgusting. And stupid and I'm not happy. Major League Baseball is on the now five. that. We are. Brought by X. Crawl play train, entertain ex in Brookefield, the best in golf simulators where you do not have to John, Kuhn. Trudge up these sadistic. Two Hundred Yard Steep Hills like at your club. The Green Bay Country Club you and your boy Brian. O'shaughnessy were savages yesterday, well walking amazing. Now we can. Now. He's in studio. We can ask him. Does he really think he can make it up and down? We know getter made it successfully up and finished one whole and then bloody nose, right and in the cart. Yes, he got he got. He got a bloody nose got his nose period and he tapped out. Like a bitch. Actually it was bleeding pretty bad. I told them, but she said man. Cocaine is not a recreational drug. It's a serious thing you could get addicted to it her. Stop it with this, but when you have everything. Thrill. To do something exactly. Oh God put. I'm telling you. When I saw this courson that. Butch, that Johnny and his buddy were walking, even though it was with push cards I, said they're savages. There's some hard ass walkman listen. We're talking about pushcarts. Like if you want the other clubs on your shoulders, that's what I'll give you credit sling push yes, sling it and carry it like a Sherpa either you are walking, and it's on your back or you get in a car the whole pushcart thing. I don't get I. Don't want to defend your honor. I mean the pros don't carry their own bags right? They even push their own bags. They had nothing to do with bags. They literally get a club and they wing it back to their catty. This away. Did you have to pay for golf yesterday? I clean I own clubs. At no cost to the league, we were so we were so spoiled soup to nuts, not only that but. Shaughnessy bought a shirt. John in the pro shop. He said Hell of a guy. How long had he said and he goes? He goes. Come on. You guys want some shirts and it was awkward because we didn't want to be pig, Joshua. Yes, though, but the second one. No that was that that is. Could now getting shirts was the story of the night. Josh. Go Be I hate. I hate that this brought up. Too Bad. Either they're. Not only are you wrong, Bush. Did Not want run in there, but I go in, and as a fat man as I usually do in places. I just asked the Guy Fat. Where's the fat rat sons? And he pointed, and he goes right there and I went okay and. Shaughnessy very nice guy. He goes. Oh, this looks big enough here this'll. Be Goes. Shoot it will work, and and then I have a guy from the the that works here. He goes to throw this. that. I am standing there like a mannequin depressed beyond belief going I hate. This is the worst as they kept coming with shirt after shirt like me like look, this is not going to be on. Did at one point Brian Goes. This has a lot of XS on. This surely has to work I mean. Literally my those are those moments are what I wake up in a cold sweat from. That's how bad that was for me the worst moment. I wasn't even. Just. Everything that you assumed happened butch with the opposite. Actually! That's saw. But it was very nice. I suggested the bucket hat I said bucket, hats or good. They fit everybody yeah. Yeah exactly so that's all go fly K.. And then the best part was. He put the shirt on over the shirt. Here's where wearing is now I can't get it off. Can somebody cut tag off? You wear the shirt home. Did you wear the shirt home? He did. Yeah! I don't I guess I don't know. Jeff right made sure that I was well lubricate I I in a few, so I don't know it was a great time. and the course is fantastic, and we were treated like kings. An can have better day than that so there you go good to see it, but she's so how your camps go by the way well. They're going good You know making the youth of America Great. You guys are golf in your body, knows leading and molding, young men and girls, young boys and girls teaching the great game of basketball. I love it. Because it's you know. Obviously. My Passion is game basketball I love sports, but the passion is that anytime? You can do something you love to do. It's not working. Day Your. Life Right. Sorry, do you? What do you teach your camp? Would hear about these the Pete Newell Big Man Camp and he was a specialist. Big Men in a probably tossed these sick crossover post up moves the DIP Kevin McHale. Does pay still pump fake right? Does Pete Newell Still Do Quote Big Man camps cause. The big man is now just a three D. guy. He's either a rim protector or a stretch five hundred. Yeah, exactly so I don't know if he's doing it I. Know We? We've got post camp that will be. Tomorrow. All Post moves all post moves. Yeah, we go through it. But how many post moves can you teach? How many are there? Repertoire of post moves love the question because you could teach probably five or six and a Lotta. People throw different things out there as it drops, I. Don't think it drops steps a move. Just position, so I remove that one. That's one of those we don't talk about, but I always tell the kids you have. How many moves did you have? They said well I've got the up and under. I've got the shot fake I've got the turnaround jumper. I've got the jump Hook drops. I go, that means you have none. Like if you tell me, you have all these moves I want you to be really good at one, and I want you to have a counter. That's it gets so good at one move right that they can't stop you right then built from that, but you heard that listen said No. You don't have a lot of moves. You have a lot of bad shots exactly. Mike move. What was your one move? Just look jump Hook over left shoulder. So if you. If you took that away, I was going with the turnaround jumper over the other show. WAS THAT NOW? Maybe I wasn't that good at doing it. That's why only. But I if I got to the block, my position I would love shoulders I be left shoulder, jump Hook and if you, if you if I went middle and you shifted your hips and you took that away. I was coming around with turnaround jumper going the other one. Has Anyone had better post moves than Ethan HAPP. What's a really good question? He could turn people inside out. Out like dirty sock, we're going to talk with Boron ten o'clock. We'll ask him that question because I think Bo. Probably a better answer than I do I think of key. Might you know like if we're looking at half was really good. It's too bad, he just. He couldn't shoot white well enough at all. Because that well, it would have made an NBA player no question. And, that's the thing where Ethan was behind the Times. Because now you've got to be able to step out and you've gotTA stretch right. If he was ten years older, you be in the NBA because it was focused on low post, and the way used his body was unbelievable. Use the shoulder create that much space to be able to raise up. It was I again it was. Was One of those things and did this to all decade team. He was on a second team, but receives on the second teams because it was never used. The post wasn't used the way that he was able to do it and be two thousand points. Score was unbelievable. So you're saying Ethan HAP is the fullback of basketball players, exactly yes, perfect, skilled, crowded, smart, handsome and Gone. Walks will playing golf and I think that's the big difference. There is the ability to walk during Gulf. That's why the Guy Sitting down in the room. Currently well I've got to sit down with my head's. Go through the ceiling John! Hi Boys. What's on the show today we got baseball. How about that? All of a sudden baseball baseball? Yeah, we're GONNA talk baseball. We'll talk a little bit of bubble Wallace. In there, and then like you said, we're GONNA have Brian. On I'm sure he's GonNa WanNa talk about junior taken over here gb so it'll be fun. Okay? Very good boys tag you're it. We're out. We're going to go talk to some of the people here at the Great Midwest Communications and OH. Eat some KRINGLE, right, yeah! Kringle Josh? I? Know cradle for you. Nine to noon with tune is next is in the building as well good to have them. Board tag were out. We'll be back in Milwaukee tomorrow. Thanks for having US up here and we'll see you tomorrow.

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