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Changing a Generation of Men- Next Level Boys Academy

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Changing a Generation of Men- Next Level Boys Academy

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Staying in Europe man and get them what they need now what they won't. Entirely, get them ahead and thinking like you know what man I'm going to do next to aboard the Kadam expects me to do what they want me to do black and Brown unique. They are born if the once. So sometimes that's not a train coach they conditioned and it just goes to waste smash we just try to. You know get them to maximize. A diverse individual. All the dishes. Like what is family marriage? Is he a chapel is elated. I'll loving. Beach. Oh. A kiss showgirl in go took my keys in and then I show leader March own. Is All real real. This expeditiously, I am too. Oh now, the following experience chest conversations and stores expressed on his podcast commit to be an expression of purpose and truth this show probably a title h edition is a free exchange of ideas and opinions no judgment. No privacy believes no fear. You're encouraged to share your thoughts and as any question as long as it's done with the speed Nash, through true love and respect for others that we would change the world and speak truth to power wash your time. Now without further ado, this is expeditiously I'm ti hairs. Had A man woman expedition down homes Ti hair remember what we do. He is have compensation. To push the court degeneration forward. But we haven't with people who are relevant discussion My guest today is Mr Gary. Davis here's the founder of the next. Level Boys Academy and Executive Director of next level empowerment center of both innovative mentoring organizations for boys and young adult men ages five to twenty five, which is much needed in our community. Miss Davis has meant to a more than one thousand young men and families through his various programs within the organizations in addition to Mentor and Renting His nonprofit four-time Mr Davis also. A philanthropist and a motivational speaker. He is received numerous awards and accolades like being Fiji Navy magazine. Recipient of two proclamations and male influence of the year and nonprofit of the was in two thousand eighteen. Miss Davis is a graduate of Choice State University member of Kappa Alpha Fraternity. He recently self publishes First Book Entitled Raising Him with that help. Welcome to the show Sir restarted man happy. All right on I want to get into with you about the Little Boys Academy like where the You know the inspiration for the. Came from but also with us, you know saying we have these are two of your should we call? A good ninety four. Okay. These it needs to. So this is the product of the next level. Yes, sir. Absolutely. this is A. Generic in Iran Jim Myron. Jeremiah. So you twenty four right from the cable. How long have you been in a part of the the next level boys kid actually was inducted into the next little boys academy back in two thousand seventeen. But unfortunately, I had to go to a small prison prison be Bob in. The program for. Almost a year now. Okay Montana you do thirty five months. Before on robber. Okay. and and was the next level boys. Academy was data part of the sentence. Those plea are okay. actually diverted. Seven, my years. Can Program on the so okay. So they gave you like a downward departure and place you in the care of the next level boys academy because they have. They've seen your work in day depending Oh you determine these next seven years more prosperous. Absolutely. Your care in two lidge rather than him being in prison. Absolutely. Phenomenon ideal man who thought it Kudos to him Man You. Thought. Who may take the creative? Idea though. That's a good. Light because those diversion programs a few in between. With mass incarceration in. All of the things to play guy. Communities Right now like we need. More, installations light used to make a difference if people. What you're doing now. Actually seeking employment I'm religious just trying to get back on my feet right now on get back. Re Re re acclimating to decide who so. So what's your area wish like wh- area would you like to work in past? My passionate okay. That's right now religious. Honestly, what would a wind blow me right now my passion is okay. and. We also had Jemari Jemari. Russell. Now you little you. To, behind ears how you? You Sixteen how did you become a introduced? How did you become introduced Mr Davis in his Love Boys Academy I got it. Okay. I caught my sergey. Brin my case I had to I had a report, not report my report home, but you can't add reported. No you for my ovation. Yea. Then do then I get lot book but. but then like. I did. I did. I. Would you trying to say? I did like. When I came when I can't put a program. I, Katie, so I wouldn't get. The right I thought I thought actually liking the program it any of all about. So you hear all your own right now not because you be made to be, here's what you're saying. Okay though, well, David were brought about the idea to do a program like this man you know just like everybody else maybe time I've told them to news black and Brown boys dying and going to prison. So I say you know what? Let me do something unique man. So I, just proposed diversion program to the courts and say, Hey, listen there's a lot of good young men can call him bad decisions. Let. US get an opportunity to do live scale societas. Angle managers pissed it to the courts man and they went with it. We'll probably diverting over one hundred years a week who is it time and these young most of our young men program armed robbery, aggravated assault carjack, and hijacking a burglary soul. Sometimes tip I look beyond the charges man because I know to and you know as well as I know man sometimes you we get into Rut. That's we have to do you think best man with most of the time the wrong thing to do we because susceptible to circumstance. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. So. How how many years has it been never years eleven years. Eleven years you've been you've been saving people a hundred years we yes, sir. A level year. So tell me about the program. What does it consist of like? How does it? How does it begin? How how does one? Find themselves eligible to participate in the program and like you have to charge you know, can you walk in the street and just? Enroll yourself volunteer yourself. Does it work no most of the diversion program you have to have a charge but when the lawyer or the DA reach out There let me know what the young as well. Here's the things I measured by you having the current charges. Now, if you just out there living Rep's ma'am, not really gonNA rock with that. But if you somebody man after these guys, they had maybe one or two charges their ages made a difference interview them everybody had to be interviewed for they come into the program. So I interview him, they come into the program and once they get in, they have to commit to a year. We meet every Wednesday night every Saturday the Saturday class came to buy, we do live skills, social skills, anger management, conflict, resolution, job readiness, I would create a scholarships and most of I a lot of our young men are now in college. Okay. When was dropped out man got the DVD's the non college man that's amazing Bro. As you just mentioned I came became aware of the program because I came misspoke I can you asked me to come speak once said you. Speak. Once demand and I enjoyed it I enjoyed it. You know what I'm saying it's not often it. Is You, know I guess. I guess we can call the old heads you know. Get an opportunity right to have like a room full of of the y'all. Reckless you know saying like I, I like to deal with the bad ones. You know what I'm saying because their energy is they religious fighting against the machine system that they they feel some wrong in the name rights at eight not gonNA follow behind it. They're not they're not going. succumb to the rooms every because they know it's unjust right? So they were building against some internally that they feeling they probably can't articulate it but I understand that energy kind of energy I have on our young you dig on saying. China for me to do a budget shit own now feel like that's funny. Right in. China Fourth Me Ryan McKee back. In, one gotta make the other one thing. This she makes them says we continue to head back and forth. Yeah and that's one of the things man when most most these both come in they're. Already know they've been some shit man this shit then just lost. So what I try to do catching the man most of the time that's eight nine years old and just catch them up to life man but I think. Black and Brown boys mandate respect consistency more than anything man and we showing up. Consistently for seven years. We've never missed a Saturday this. Yeah. Hey Man we're gonNA take a break into showman and Viana switching. I'm going to represent for sponsor today mass. If you're trimming, you're next. Fought del you know what I'm saying I will tell you to manscaping brand for below two ways grown in hygiene. She you know what I'm saying now, not a lot of people looking for new things do home. You know what I'm saying most people look for. Shit. Due to get out they home but. Manscaping, if you make it a part of your routine, you probably could benefit from it should think about it like the lat time. You're actually decided to think enough about the person you would invite into. 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Yeah P you understand when you go to mask dot, com I. Tell me how how, how did level boys, Academy and I. What did what was it? When you first came in. Mandated by by your probation officer the beater. What was it that you experience demands made you say man I wanNA keep coming back here. All started with. There is a bit. He he he. He He. He. He knew highlight the hound people he no. He. He'd say like he got going to bat time. He'll. The talk food. Yeah. I. If I got a Bet, I'll talk to him I'll go. To. A. Mental of mine. Right. But. That's important. Where ridicule is a day I've seen that he He really care about outlet me. Just ain't that as part of the program everybody. But no saas the like. Did. You but you gotTA. Turn. Will lighten. On A. Man Life. is a good program. For One day you're going to be running amok if you stay. Right. But they never over there because you know what I'm saying, this is structured right and I think that's where you know a lot of times in our lives, your me like this where people miss more than anything structure and consistency on poker will permit. Right. So. So what's the? What's the activities life? Man Just. Just staying in the ear man you know what these young men they got so many different. So they got multiple distractions man. So you got to be consistent on the way you can overpower a bad influence is a hold out positive influences. So staying in their ear man, get them what they need, what they won't and and try to get them ahead thinking like you know what man I'm GonNa do next of a boys academy expects me to do what they want me to do. Life Scales man most of these young missile lice kids always talking about earlier man if you just give lice skills back black and Brown. Border unique man they are born gifted. So what so sometimes, that's not That's not a train coast and condition, and it just goes away smashed we just tried to. Get them to maximize. On talent. So what what, what, what was your experience like and but you came out of pre isn't right off no fire, right? So it was basically I mean. I was. Reluctant to go because I was not ready to build a bunch of people. Especially I WANNA play so. I mean I came in and it's just like because it's not just missed the Davis the whole group mentor who so even what what he can't beat up for you is someone who? Is like all successful black man that's light legit and like that's my reliable scene is growing up like somebody who successful. The right way. And that really draw me in because like. I could've kept going I. WAS GONNA get in prison, but like the whole time imprint on telling myself mind and doing it again and doing it again Dan I when I first got, I really found myself. I WANNA say Dr. Loss were I didn't really know. By had all this, all his anger I ain't know who I was mad at. And I was just throw them back into the world because they released me twenty five dollars. And thirty five you heard about a month. So just all type of bullshit. So coming into this Lobos Ketamine is opened my eyes to like wow you bigger than just the situation right now where I like that's really instilled in me like when I first came here like you're GonNa be be just the. Right in like this all that love and his genuine love, it ain't no see Mr Day was he doing a lot of background like he gets accolades all social media and all that but it's a lot of. Long days and courtroom. There are a lot of people don't get to see like that. He he do I. I really respected that and his Jane Love. Will. Black like you say black and Brown boys like he ain't his one person who said and then you don't hear from no, he persistent then. then. Those might be a while. Few. Crazy. Question. How many white boys you coming in man I don't you know I always ask that question Tansu question none no zero in Libya right. But let me just say this now off the wonder because I. Rice street lot man okay interview. I've never seen a white boy in aid and not always excellent Saturday what the hell do I go to jail I don't go to jail man because should go in there but listen man I'm going to back and teases same. Issue won't. Openness that's opened. Up. And I'm sitting here looking I'm asking these boys may wear the Whiteboard I. Know these whiteboards wild out man I know it but. I think. I've never seen him Ikuo I'm in court every day man every day before the pandemic now virtual. So part of my job every day job as being caught advocating for these boys man don't send them to prison. I have never seen a white wearing caught between the ages seventeen to twenty three. Now. I do now got I just got my first tomorrow. I have my first Hispanics start to group were yeah. But he yeah, he just Hispanic he had to take you eleven eleven years but I've never I've never had anybody call me actually about a white boy ooh. I know, why are my instagram paid you the to? The wife as man. Just. Wonder Man they don't go to. Be. Man. I is you weren't. Foods is in foods again like it's not just like we're not just talking about our communities, this crime and burglaries and caught up in. All kinds of she aggravated assault. Going on out there as well. Right. So I'm just wondering. So. They might not need no hill man going to jail man. And they don't come their lawyers command listen man come the could. I started because I was thinking like you know I don't really get. I stick to my purpose man that black boys I don't get caught an audit other just let them folks out is right you know. But one thing I can't say I have never seen one at the county jail. Neither have I seen adjudged or DA. Reading. A plea deal anything 'til white boy. Now, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Maybe it happened days I'm not in cool. Happened in man. I've never did you see a lot of when you was? How long were you rice you? Thirteen month old sixteen months. And I. Want to white. Pass through. No but I mean. But now I think that you think that because a lot of things, there's a racial divide, but he's also an economic and social divide. Absolutely. So. is some white void stay in some ports of east point right? Hate veal and other places where we probably ain't you know as frequent. They go through she could they own necessarily had no store should down in and they end up in prison I don't know if they bypassed the county jail. Down the road, but it has to be something to. Listen to if they go to prison that means there are no more options would listen. We never know you sound. Right, right right. Have an astronomical advantage in this. Okay. So let's take a break from the show to talk about some I. Know You care about more than anything? 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So don't true they get on over the current right now man get yourself bankroll USA it piqued my interest to know let me just say there's no tiffany disclaimer man we do not discriminate of course. So you know we we accept all of them but unfortunately, we have not got any call to anybody who's opposite race of African American. Male Dale To, say, let's see how we can get more whiteboard absolute now. So. Let me ask you what is the commonality of the underlying issues that you find in most of. The men company. Your. Majesty, lack of father this. Lack of. Male. Role models I don't think these two young men who me today when I interview them and I've never had a male role model. Who? Did Awful. was He made like who? So you grew up with you and your? Me and my. Mom. Had A A He went like he on. They. Own Films. I really it was me my mom and my brothers but. The older man I was in my life I looked at them rely almost equal. Sewed him. ooh Like one looking on roll modified. I mean nobody can make it out here trying to figure shit out on your own right off saying. If you born in a in a box no matter how big box right you boil in a box. Ain't nobody told you how to get out of you continue to get 'em trial an area where you're right to some success right? I feel like that's what most of the let me hear a door. Because aside from. The journey of the American dream you know what? I mean public, School High School go to college, get some debt, get you a job badly work your way out of debt into you die. To you attack will you promise social security retirement and ended up dying figuring that shitting real right? Like that's really the American drink that would they really got from Kilgore and that what they plug it into right? Man You came to the class man you say something I'll never forget man you talked about the way education is structured. It's structured where people can go somewhere and work for somebody for eight years. And also structured to kill the confidence blackboard I believe that I, remember you saying. That what I feel like the public school system to do it everyday everything. You feel like right that you won't do for yourself now do ask now. You need to. The papal, write it on. Me and let me. Somebody else. Buckle Mole that ain't the way innovation happens right that ain't the way. You as you just mentioned. Enormously gifted and talented. Intelligent just just. Exceptionally mentally gifted people. There are any public school to have all kinds of tally you sme by you know punctuation sheet when I know how to get rid of. Petroleum I I can make a car run on water in my mind. He will to get me to focus on punctuation right come home and write a she don't make no sense right? No, we don't want you to figure that out. We won't you to come work for us. Petroleum Company. So we can continue to patrol you and you will work for US never mind all the brilliant ideas you have the shift that because that'll never happen. Right Right, I. Feel like that's what school does which is why offer like me I dropped out. I never told her story. And I think it was champ grade well was a nightmare homeroom but I'll take Tim Clare's a Failed. Every clay is except for. Algebra? language arts. In Se. I got like a ninety two. Like eighty nine. So she knows class field everything else. I got to the principal. So we saw it, you clearly have the capacity to do the work. Why is it that you won't apply yourself? Say can do the work day. No problem there. But this is it. Thank you gotta a beautiful the kids who come here for Y'all to tell them. WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING I already know what I'm going to be doing. So what I'm GonNa do is I'm GonNa take the poets that you have to offer that benefit me and my Z. and I'm a lead wrist y'all. He. Get at my office. And let me go I love mail you know what I'm saying. Fractions, percentages. Division to just plug numbers. Our candidate, the money. So help me right and then with the. With the language ours I had a teacher named Ms. Pearson she can appealed to she appealed. So my interest in in poetry and my interest in in music and showed me how expanded my vocabulary can make me a better art. Okay. So I was I was engaged right there but a for them to class it man. You know what I mean. What grade you quit? That year. I don't think he is you quit got kicked out, kicked out of school and then when I got the. Book for a long time they I can. I can go back to regular school so I got to jog or. Get Your Gd On. My g-go hostile. Job. I get the ged. Graduate, you only walk no mole. Yeah. I I got mine in joint. You know what I mean. I graduated at ask joint. where I think they are. High School really there or not high school the school period would I feel the the function or the benefit of of school? is to show a person how to discipline yourself prioritize your life and come adversity daily. You know what I mean right to get from where you are to where you want to be. That's the necessary thing I'll be teaching in the classroom and the grade levels that she. Really is a bad like declare but I need to pay declare hind to hear them I go get in here and. Pass would I allow myself to be overly frustrated by the presentation declare? That's a tube that you have to use somewhere else in the world like I see all the time young kids really Ali by May now man. Man That's. Thought nigger. Man Lame. Ending I don't to be ran ain't going to listen Brooke from what you have. You'll packet right now two hundred and fifty million who can do it with dealing with no suckers and fought news. So obviously as a way to deal with them, accomplishing need to accomplish and continue to move on and get so ill diller would a Nigga is separating you from one hundred, fifty, million you stop right? Right So that's what to me, what school it for the show you how to. Create contingencies for yourself life as a series of adjustments. You stop adjusting you start died you know what I mean dishes is constantly evolving is a constant evolution. which makes what we're going through as far as what leads you. You know what? I'm saying thinking of the Newsletter Boys Academy, just see how many of us were perishing. To mass incarceration to the wall man to you know to the circumstances deploy. Guy. Communities Okay but. Was All thought of. Systemically by people who want things to stay the same. Digging saying because the world is evolving past past the colonialism in tradition Elizabeth. Founded America. The entire earth is evolving, pass their sheet. So they like well, how can we keep it from Volvo? So fail, what can we do to slow it down? then. Okay crack. In the crack epidemic in the world then you know all this shit we say, just to try to stop the momentum of evolution. But throughout history I mean naturally history of American history of humanity you have never seen any group of people from the Egyptians too the Romans to whomever you never seen a group of people fight against evolution in win. This Jane you can stop this ship you religious. You know what I prolong the inevitable but don't change. You know what I'm saying you can't kill enough of you can't create enough. Pitfalls, the Stop Evolution of the universe will have his way. That's why you don't even know why you you came next level boys academy but it was because the universe needed you right and that's why I'm doing this shit. I don't know what the fuck. You know I haven't made good money. On say. 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Move Different because you know you doing some that you had confidence in your ability to be able to do. Right. So, to know, you had a confidence here, a step into a world is so familiar to you and try to create. More confidence in that were dash it. That's what that's. That's what legends made of. Saying, anybody could wick overdue sign thing you know. Is like okay. Execute succeed repeat like his on. So many times you can do that right in order to to to grow or make a regional full potential. You find it outside your comfort zone. So which outdoor right now is comfortable to you but he me and then when they get caught up until you'll be time to do some digital how to work. They had life words you know saying that how you get from that what have you our? If you never got that transition problem. You know what I'm saying grown used to crawl around like. You can't Crossville. Eventually you go out. Period. So what you guys are doing knows and I applaud and salute because I think that's What it take from all people, your position to come and content programs like Mr gave her hair. The how we could each one teach one right I mean the bed with a person in need is not to become. So much get on your feet which. Developed an understanding and awareness. To reach back and teach somebody else who was in the position. He's the absolute. You can. You could wear black where you can change. New. A whole generation. US listen to class yesterday. Okay. I thought it was half man. were. Dog Man smokes last call. Now man. I'm proud of you too so. I'm glad you thought you sleep though. As she. S. Right. So, what programs like yours like nationwide other states like why? What do we need to do this Hispanic? Man Starting here with you? I think that a lot of men. You know it's not money first of all a lot of buzz. You know we gotta make. SOMEBODY MAKING MONEY Somebody. Somebody make somebody. Somebody. told him to fund in federal in and they kick it down to the state level innate it down to the Naked Day The time and make it I. got it. We're. Packs facts but I think man. That's my goal man. It'd be global I just won't every time you see. McDonald's. We need to see meg negative aboard academy man I, was. Talking to some folks with their. Own with my guy killer Mike man was talking to the man. Once you go. Ooh, there were town wanted to restaurants I want say boys can academy right next to it so that's my ultimate goal man it's just to let young men. No, you're not out here on the island and it's not really hard I. think what I've learned around this organization. But if if you put it in front of them, it'd be consistent with it and create it and make it about them but what ain't got ready to Hand to go to the bathroom where they don't have to sit down and take notes. We take notes in this shit man you came man this is innovative is in your face and his real life and social skills was drive their world. So my man, I, just WanNa? Be Global Man I just wanted it to be all over the world just to be a place where young man feel safe men not just young justice system but just any young man dude as is going up and and just niece and. Nephew my goal going global. Okay, and the mass you question well, all the different makes models of cars on the road can one tradition a chain store carry parts all of well, the answer is they can't. So when you need a part for repair, ASEP you most likely end up paying and waiting. Saying those with old days thankfully, we have rock out OH DOT COM AUTO DOT COM is a family owned auto parts being they're servicing customers for over twenty years strong. You dig what I'm saying and they have everything from engine control modules. 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This just believe in people man that believe in the organization every now and then they cut a little check man we keep the lights on, keep their own and. you know but corporations. Okay. Some sponsorships don't have money. They know federal man I think we have never seen. They do well part of that is me because here's the deal man I think and I had this conversation multiple times. Man is believe that North to get I young men to where we want them to be. We don't have to deal with the stipulations of the state and federal dollars We can deal with partnerships. Yes. Absolutely and they've done it for eleven years. I've never received any state or federal money. Okay. I've always had people. To do is you need to do absolutely being encumbered absolute bureau because when you get that man that's stipulations tool, he can't do this. You can't do that can't be here I mean I have to get these young men exposed man this. Stipulation to their they may say, okay, he's not allowed to come to Atlanta from. Decatur. So now we missed out on a young man and needs to meet you. So I, refuse to go the route of state and federal dollars because I don't like the stipulation, the conflict, the man I believe our people. I believe are people. Could help this organization, get it to where it wants to be under the conditions that we wanted to run. and. That's the way of an operating revenues man eloquent. Like. So do we expand? Okay. So how do people get involved basically basically, the community needs to rally around this program makes your has the resources they. It needs to become global to expand to the level that we wanted to be absolutely right now, we're in Ecorse Georgia, where in Alabama, and we're North Carolina So now the court virtual interview, young man from the jail virtually and I go to court Berkeley these young I have six young men program right now I've never met physically because I them over the phone so they on the class every Saturday Most of the time, how you get into diversion program the lawyer. Suhair gotta tomorrow here. He's a good kid he's got caught in a bad situation all you willing to accept. MEET JEMARI WE'LL TRY to kick shift about an hour and a half I check his temperament. He'd check mine. Hamilton, if you go back, if you own a bullshit, then we'd get. A man, then we get a relationship and then before they ever start class man they just basically rock Whitney and next thing you know unit diversion program you don't even know what it's called. Can we make a like some sort of a private school? You know saying like a school school would a curriculum man it could be a university man I'm talking about from getting a young man in the world. They. Ship. Man. This. Mad. We tracked a young man's life from five to twenty three Ma'am. Tommy. Go to kindergarten to go to trace go not college to a trae school just imagine if we did that. We could change could change because with them about perception man. So I don't try to tweak anything how they look how they talk how they. That's you. You'd be unique but just say some shit, we understand you. I mean that's what separates us from the savage beast ability to reason and articulate I thought. That's really what makes. Humans. Do the hail, the food chain, right rear we're not the strongest motherfuckers. If GAVRILA new. ABC is being trump. Right, no garage it right so A lot of times emotions keep people from articulate right motion key people communicate whether is out of fear of how GonNa be received or an inability to find the words for the that you have, and you'll hear either way but we have to continue to communicate. We have to continue to articulate how we feel because you know in that you know. We just no. Different from the savage beach I agree totally agree Emma can you believe half fast times flying this year man I mean especially since we rbis stuck in the house she well You look around. But sometimes, I'm also right now people all over the country spending time with family and friends and make some of the best mirrors the alive. Why not make some of those memories with an ice Cole Miller High Life Miller high life has been faithfully brewed the same way since it started in nineteen. and has been celebrating the good life since that's why they're known as the Champagne Beers. 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I'm saying talking through how you feeling, what you, what you, what you get your bowel, the patient huffing, and puffing for what's. Wrong. You won't hurt some why. So I heard you what happened I mean once you get into that and I don't know Eddie Ucla's. Employees. In. Let. Me Have a cup of tea. This talk about What we can get them today, it's always the problem the problem the lack of a solution is the problem that's was about to say man, you give these boys opportunity man. and. A Vision. Because the the the goal is for most of the mandate, kill all that around our grade. You know take you lack of the lack of education take interest away who create the tough dynamics at home and just make your life chaotic because I know for a fact. You. Prime example I read your history give a young man of color. An Opportunity Man will take the world over man and I think that's what they're lacking. That's doing the National Boys Academy. Hey man here's an opportunity because remember we funding everything they want to do. We got business. We got started man we make sure cellphones on whatever they need man. They got it. That's why they have. They can't even make an excuse. To the why they WANNA fuck up. Right. They just they just hit me up man what you need. We got it from a business to rebound everything, but we'd put. Where they you know what they bad. Talked about. What? Whenever. We phone we. You. Know we pay power bills man. We don't get your half on some rent. I mean we're doing your turn pay somebody. Absolutely. So. So how can people get involved with the next level? Just you know going Bush's a billionaire watching right now I wanna go ahead and give them a hundred million against on the next phase. Of the operation I'll do a hit you up man you get your Jim. Thank. You. got. You got. You got a billionaire, so you can't. You can't ask a billionaire no money man. You can't ask enough for a little bit a little bit of. Fate, you got to present a vision to a billionaire. Go to billionaire mass. Hey, man here's what we're GONNA do start in in every neighboring state to Georgia who we want to set up a chapter next overboard academy. Okay and we just need you to fund it for the first five years. What funding looks like this would it looks like so we start with that and he's GonNa put out because I think most billionaires we give you. Will Billionaires find Beijing they don't find people and stuff like that. you know Ti's GonNa Find Gary David? The cavs, not quite true about where they are just glad. They people. Because I feel like, for instance, right? Let's just say if you're an inventor. Okay. And You come to me with the invention of Let's say. A self brewing TICO. Sodas and you send me down and I'm like, okay, well. I don't know if there's a market necessarily for this invention, but he got to be a motherfucker the Komo. Rightly. So with some email between Napa time, he dad then I'm going to be a portal right. So usually I, tap into that and I obviously, people. Because, if the teacup don't work and then the next idea does I don't WanNa. Be. EXCLUDED RIGHT Saying. So I think I have a little bit a different unorthodox approach. That's what's up good to know that man. To man talk billionaire man we gotta deal with this citizen mass. So and what happens is you gotta understand too young men base in ten fifteen years in prison. You do the calculation managers imagine amount of money I say organization on your taxpayer dollars that you ain't got to find this young man's been in prison bid and all this other stuff out of stuff. So instead of is a man, we tried to cut back on that. We try to deal with that and You know just get the meeting with a billionaire man I, mean we go find. I think that. What you're doing is is commendable and I think that is not enough light being shined on you know saying it's not enough. Awareness is so much being said about. You know. Black on Black Crime which is a myth about away on everybody to know that crease. Thing is black on black crime people key who they live around people commit crimes around who live around noon period. You never heard institition on white on white crime as they walk in in crowded areas and shoot everybody including white people but he doesn't show up is wide white. When they in a in a in an active passion Keel, the wife for like Toco? Toco kidney where were talking about how much white on white crime? So it's a false narrative that. it really GIS allows. Dare I say Republicans well now let's not making political. It allows. Hateful Racist White people to continue to perpetuate mass incarceration, give free labor as really what is a bad. So America will be no slavery. So when they had the slavery, they gotTA figure out how to get back to the roots of the basis of what? Made this economic superpower and that will free labor. So how do we get back to free Labor well, thirteenth amendments that you are free unless imprisoned, there's just continue to create ways in find loopholes in little petty sheet a lot more for us so we can get free Labor that's what sheet is about. So, anything that can allow that could justify police to go out there and a cost in intimidate and harass young black and Brown men and get them to get lot ghetto charges. So I can get them in this prison and getting some labor. That's what that's what they think keeps America. You really don't know it's ideas. It's ideas. It's the things that we do. We work of creation out of nothing. I I know. Let's say, Oh, the old white me who came what we allows the back. In early nineteen hundred. They did not account for like you know when when they came up with the projects welfare food stamps. Artist she that was actually like a strategy. Known saying the key all black people in the area of town. Less opportunities, we want to kill the ambition by not having them, making them, giving them a place to live for free. and giving giving the women of check every month, which makes them feel like they don't need to me because you can't have a man in the house and get the check right? You got to be single. Put. Demand. Out. You know what I'm saying and and just you and your baby in this free apartment getting a check airman answer foods. They'll see that now you ain't got to get up in Hanoi ambition for so you just sit down and collect your chin. That from the time. You're kidding kindergarten onto the time he eighteen union chippenham because he eighteen folk going to do. All, this shit was a strategy this year plan. So but those Who played on those people? Who Do who created this? They did not account for hip. Nobody without it while we put people in their place, they come up with some gold produce billions and B's dollars in having an enormous amount of global influence. 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Build something that will change the standard of living for you and your family forever. But they can't count on. You probably, go sell some don't. Maggie. If we put him here, he's born here and he doesn't have a father and he goes to these schools by the time you something he probably goes sale some dope. Saying so they're trying to go with all the shit they feel they can account for giving your circumstantial. Your circumstances by me, but they ain't they not aware of the things that they can't account for. That's what next level boys academies do if you allow you the opportunity to have those those those visions, those opinions. I. Like I like. A Piston love it there. So that's the word the words of the we give. Tradition him expedition as you know introduced word to to the audience and it would be A word that is indicative of the conversation or of the guests and I think a piffling. Epiphany is is just as good a word as in a pivotal is A. Spontaneous doubt. That changes the direction of of how you move. You know what I mean a a revelation if you will. Let's see now. Is See I could use it in a Senate so people who listening to it can pretend a new word they own life. Let's see here. Jim was on a path of recidivism until he completed the next level boys academy and had a pithy. To do better. So around yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we're GONNA do that little that went up like he is The EP. APP. P.. H. A. N. Y. Fifty. To go forward. Information. We're going to get right to let me see I'm gonNA check I just. A piffle e. p. p. h. a year. I'm going to say. In our right. EP. APP H. A. N. Y.. Yeah. Yeah. Got A. Lot. I. WanNA I WANNA. Thank you first of all for. For our work that you don't in the community. And everything that you've been able to achieve man on behalf of the community and over half of young black and Brown boy man for the last eleven years. Salute. Jewish respect you appreciate your. Normal Falcao Way and you. Continue to fight the good fight for you know what I mean just. You know no matter how teddy getting mad dog matter how hard the wind blow every storm runs out of rain period. You dig. Saying. And thank Y'all for coming here man sharing your story little anything. You want anything you want to say before before we get out of here. I just want to say pre said opportunity for allowing me to come up on his bat form like I keep up the so and all that. So All I know is made. What books do you read We'll both are right now already in Audubon Malcolm X. again. Okay I read because I I had said I also. I read plenty of books are really really blows you likely. To, like I'm, GonNa be so studied a lot of dates and all that. So I'm really into. A. Lot of geographical ball I took a lot of trouble. The, giant Patterson's okay. I mean Key wine series on a lot occupied by off. Okay. I read a lot of. A lot of black literature. In I really I really kind of across a lot of different descend on that time. You will ain't got. Yeah. You Ain't got no toilet open. When I did the most married. A Word I saw. What was, what would you like to read I would? Wear. Inches you. If you go to you like, okay, you go to bookstore like wh- the First Section you go to. The I, that's not wear both a pilot. Based on two or OCHRE. Biographies and stuff like that Okay Gotcha. School I got a book that I wrote. I got. Out of East Kyle way a ways of the superior man. You know saying. S The. Muscles the law Laura Lender actually suggested for me to read it and say you know what I'm saying, Nipsy it changed Your Life You know just. The. Founded on. The way of the superior man. I, the office name My. Is. What about you would you? What about your book? You say about your robot first book raise him without raising him without a map man to give these mothers a better understanding of they sons because I think it's a miscommunication man They get pointed live pretty much after a young man turns eleven twelve years old it becomes coaching not parenting and these mothers just don't get it Nancy created the blueprint. Okay everything is about twenty five chapters man. We'll talk about everything whether he's having sexy smoking why he? I think the gang got in. He wants his daddy he wants to be. My man is a very, very detailed quick read man quick airplane ride from new. York read. The. Pool Man. So that's on my website next couple boys academy. On. instagram everything is next level boys academy. Best, there's dope. Man. Sprayed of that and then make a global pretended Lindsey. Coming out. In a minute. So this is an expedition. Miss Guessing Decide News. My show expeditiously would now be available on spotify and it's free. 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Ice Cube- A Contract with Black America

expediTIously with Tip "T.I." Harris

55:00 min | 6 months ago

Ice Cube- A Contract with Black America

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Now the following experience is not a test conversations and stores expressed on this podcast from it to be an expression of purpose and truth this show probably tied h producers is a free exchange of ideas and opinions no judgment no preconceived beliefs no fear you're encouraged to share your thoughts and ask any question as long as it's done with speed mass through love and respect for others that we would change the world and speak truth to power wash at the time. Now that further do this is expeditiously. Welcome to expeditiously I am your home chill. Now, fourth. You know this is what we have. Compensation towards the full people relevant to the discussion. now, ice cube is I guess for the day Oh gee was going no doubt. I'm good now. Ban a blessed man blitz. Highly blanket. No place. You've been very vocal. About the upcoming election and saying we're allowed of. My contemporaries have been saying for years. A. This. Being so strong Olga Bat the black vote decided it. Could you elaborate on your messages? Well. No I feel like the black vote will decide this election. You know if we turn out in droves, we're GONNA decide it. If we don't turn out, we don. Decide. but. With that. Kind of power. We have to go. And DIG Government. To. Do some of the things we need done in our communities You know anybody that believed that they have in their back pocket. Will Not. Go to extra mile. To get us out the condition that we're in. So. We shouldn't get at to anybody. We should give that kind of comfort. To anybody. UNLESS, they're really coming witted especially at a point when you have. As much leverage as we have run this election. I just believe we should use it by get as much as we can. For, our communities. I mean definitely a for truth in their statement. My Pundit Killa might've been saying for years Democrats treat black people like decide. You know what I'm saying they kinda like it's already in the bag and nobody really can't considers the needs of the deficit that the community agam unions have been in. now but what is the alternative though like? Okay so is it? Okay. So what is the alternative to if we don't come with anything from from the Democrat from the Democrat side Dan what would what would you suggest the contingency? Airport MAP think everybody needs to make their own decision on whether they going to vote for somebody that's not doing anything form or not. One or? You know. Very little so From there in in a Lotta ways becomes. individuals. Feeling gut feeling by what they do after that. I think if we stick together at this point. Can give some done. We wouldn't have to come to that decision. But I know that when campaigns? No they have. A community already locked down. They. Go on to the next community that they don't have lockdown. So. You know we can't afford that to happen to US season. So you know we need still make people. Fight. For vote I am dude things. That's GONNA help our community in the long run. and. So I just think that's the power you you You will. Announce saying when you when you have a vote, you know that that is the power and and so. I tried to put together something like the contract with Black America that can. Speak to things in a in a broad manner. Speak for a lot of people. Of course we've been having people are very smart people jump on and help us to. Upgrade and make the contract better and better every day. So that's cool to see that kind of a work with people that really care about. Are we going to get some outages election tangible united? Know that helps that helps the communities. In the first hundred days. That's that's really what We're. Looking for. So I mean I'm hoping to candidate to step up in in in give us some run on vote for. Give us something to pull our pool our people to to the polls in droves for You, know just being scared of trump. To me is just not enough you know we we live Donald Trump in. Richer variety is not now we can net. Take away from the fate is horrible leadership in this worst case scenario after worst case scenario since. Been in office, but you are right about. Man. We've been screw by Democrats report. Saying. So ultimately is going to be about what it takes to liberate. People in Vita to. Believe either party wants to give us nothing or not too much I think. You know we've been a lot of ways. So I'm not just a black mini just period people. We've been sold out to the banks and Nada. People. Make money off, US so You know only thing these people really respect is standing office or getting in office. So that's why power lies and you gotTa make them doing you don't think they're going to. You know have the the? Find. Spot and they heart. To do what they should have been doing forever. You know. Yeah you know a lot of people don't know America is a a currency creating. Culture, not a currency using culture. Let's say that again. We. Are, currency, creators. Not Currency users. So. We can make the money we need long as it doesn't blowup inflation a just pulled three trillion dollars out the back pocket. Money out they pocket make money when it's time for a war. And you know so just three trillion dollars. Three trillion dollars has not. Heard inflation. So, they can create more and give it to but. You know that's just a game they try to tell us that. The country is broke. Like a household that ain't got money to pay for new. Jordan's can get to. Christmas we broke. or You can't get them at all. But. It doesn't work like that. You know. I mean. Backs worth some so. They can make them and they can give them to us if they really wanted to help us right. But but but but they've surrendered us to the banks net system of tax. 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You know police reform is, of course I think that's being dealt with and I think the. The. The the government see the need to deal with police reform in many ways, and there's a lot of push that way. So I would do is. Pick up the slack where there's not as much. Push in adds to help us get financial. Equality and into to close. The, wealth gap. Look the really do things to try to in media immediately closed a wealth gap and I'm talking about grants, bailouts you know days, they would do own people and they all France. Now, companies do those for black people on the hill black people standing homes to. Buy New homes and you know to do those things to help us close this wealth gap. was that's the area that everybody's shish Sean because everybody's self focused on. Police Justice Reform, which is totally needed in. Applaud the efforts to get that done I'm trying to get a lot of that done in things are getting done. Around the country I think you know we have moved the needle But I just think we gotta move it in the. Financial. Area. Specially at a time like this when people harden. Cova done and took a lot of people's jobs. A lot of people's businesses down also, you're not just think it's time to bail out some some black businesses in in small businesses in general, right? The the money is there. But if we could get the banks out the way. To sorta politicians could use the purse of the government. To help the? Citizens. Get back on our feet that money's GonNa go back to the top you know the money goes it don't it don't trickle down money trickles up. trickles up I mean when you get some money, you usually go buy some from somebody who got it in that somebody's usually somebody that's rich. So the money. trickles up if we can ever get it to the streets you I'm trying to get the money to street level. When I say the streets, I'm talking about illegal stuff talking about to the poorest neighborhoods. Yeah. People that need it. Yes now you spoke a little bit about it covert effecting jobs in unemployment zad now tablet or two percent of businesses. Closing now, so I'm business. So tell me. What do you think for our community? Like that astronomical number of a percentage of Latvians close what kind of bailout will be sufficient? Man, we can go down the line you would have to you know companies to me would have the. Say what they need and You know just like they would do for the big you know. The. Big major financial companies built out. On the airlines for you know, why does it always have to be the automotive industry? Why does always have to beat a super big industry? Get the tax payer money but just guy who just need a little help don't get it. Won't. Bella Baz with the with the real estate market crash, it had to bail out the banks. They thought out the banks everybody gets paid except the people that lose a house. Or get tricked out they have. So you know this this is you know those companies need a bailout. This is you know ardor long Hocus, pocus that they play. In a WHO needs that in people need to check. Whereas that, we can agree on man we it is time for the wealth gap to be closed in on at bank. There are several ways to do it Thank for way just as you as you as you detail, make sure that whoever you vote for is concerned with the things that matter to act. In also. Asset you gotta make them could sign. You know what I'm saying you gotTA. Make Him cassirer. Got You back pocket already as thinking about consigns as much. You know they thinking about the vote they that they don't have. You know. You know now they. Remind in a little bit and realizing they have to do. A little more work to to short black vote. But now it's wrong with that s due to our the the the new, the new age black Republicans you know what I'm saying like it's a lot of would kind as rhetoric and you know the candidates own Windsor. So on world. That is what's actually making Democrats said the minute we might actually have to do. So we're losing museum saying it. So give me us a significant amount of leverage in life. Is About Labor Day nobody as you just discussed ain't nobody GonNa do ned for you just attache you're out Is GonNA HAVE TO BE LEVERAGED? So now we have been leverage is the compensation must come to the table natural enough. We won't. Get This This reality star at White House because the support representation of US ended just Cana fans the flames of white supremacy however. We got to sit down and make sure that we get some tangible for is basically what you're saying. Yeah without a doubt. 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The black vote in has to be major we need major hill if. It's going to be another ride somewhere. Some of it. injustice that not one injustice but rise happened because it's a community of injustices that build up. To a crescendo. So that's what happens. So you know we the fix it while we have the power, we have the power to all we need is. Biden in Harris. To. Agree to do some of this stuff man that we need done it supple. Grain of what they WANNA. Do they not agreeing to what we need done and? To me I, think they have to come to the table with a little of what we need done not just what they have the the appetite to do you know. That that's fair, not they access to to get out in droves in bringing. Grandma in it and make sure by get Dan stand in line in, do what we ought to do but they gotta do what they do nisus stroke of a pen. Now we're in for the slows you know in defense Oh. The Biden campaign even before hairs Harris came up they reach that they stats executive. What we say right now know that people need to understand what is is is coming in exchange for our vote. Of and they seem very receptive is very receptive anything like they wanted to know you know what I mean were where the deficit lad. Spelt out in the contract with Black America. I'm not I haven't had. You know Too much opposition to that documents saying this is totally off base or this is what we need. Excuse me who were saying that it was totally off base like you mean from Albany I. Mean You know you always get a few people who who wish they ideas were. Right where we're in there and and and what we say was you wish ideas was in there. Let's get him in there. Let's figure out how they helped with our data help us to implement some of these programs notices, Abroa-? Look at the problem. This is a broad brush way to see the problem. Of course, we're getting experts in each area to help us with the data that everybody. Tends to want. So you know we have a plan and. And if we didn't make any noise, they win WanNa talk to us but now they want to talk to us. So we WANNA. Talk. And that, and that's fine because that's what we we would like to support. the candidate so If you talk to us, tell us what you're GonNa do for the community that makes sets outside what you put out there than. A thank you get. You get to support you need. The two things one I want to clarify. Are you saying that what they put out there is not enough and yeah. Okay and the second thing is a contract with black America where can people go and read it in research for themselves? WB A dot world. You can see the Short. Quick load thirteen point version that we really want the candidates. To of sign it and really support, and then there's a long more detailed version that contains to. You know get updated with data and in in new ways to implement some of these things we acts. In. And just make the make it. A Better contract across the board now is doing two as it's Axa government to do what they need to do to fix systemic racism, but it's also accent the private sector. Do, what they need to do. To fix all the. things they've done to benefit off our pain so. You know right now, win election time. So we. Pretty much focus on government. But this thing is going to switch. After the election and go to private businesses because a lot of people have. Benefited. Off our pain rule of four hundred years and I think I think they need to. To try to rectify end some kind of way. But. The debt or? Dot World. Terms Flash your man I mean especially since we are stuck in the house. Well I. Don't know if you look around but sometimes Right now, people all over the country spending time with family and friends and making some of the best members of their lives. Why not make some of those memories with an ice cold Miller Life Miller. High Life has been faithfully brew the same way since the start in nineteen zero three and has been celebrating the good life of a sense. That's why they're known as the champagne. Beers. So raise a can celebrate summer simple moments were Miller High Life Miller highlight champagne beer is quite a bit within everyone's reach celebrate responsibly millerbrook cabinet Milwaukee Wisconsin. And I definitely agree with you know what you're saying is closing Gabar trying to create opportunities enact news because That's where you're going to. Give. Everybody the canopy peace of mind that will allow communities to counter you know revitalize themselve. The lack of education lack of. Opportunity in lack of exposure. been plaguing at Muniz for keeping those marginalized for all too low. Yeah I don't understand why. Some people don't want us to fix our communities, but then they don't want to move to their communities. You know may for better life I just don't understand the thought process we made our communities. As great as they can be. We you know you wouldn't have people who. Move out the neighborhood at all they would stay there so. I don't just don't understand the philosophy of that. Well, I mean I think. It. It's an oppressive man state. Not I mean you want everyone else to live on the knee so you can be tall type sheet you know what I'm saying. But quite the same way like don't we never had slaves I never did this and I never did that. But which today sickness is a subconscious cities like this you. Don't get me wrong man the more overt it becomes the wool awareness you can you get. Tail but for the most part. It's been really like living with the comfort of not having a target on the on a light and they don't really think it exists or understand that it exists or they don't want to get rid of it because then they actually have to be judged by their actions, deeds and the quality of care. They WANNA. Go ahead at age just by being born a son shade of complexity. One thing that makes me feel. Optimistic. And keeps me positive. If you look at history. Look through a history of the history of humanity. Any were. Finding Against Change Always Laos They always knows. Everyone who will bite to keep sheet. The wadey is nail in keeping you from evolving and progressing the way the universe in teams they always loves yet you will lose in the end. Because I mean the world to me nays towards justice show you know they have to bend it. To make To make way it is and so You know you can only been. You know tree branch back so much. It's either gonNA. Break is gonNA whack you you know so. I just don't think this is going to break. In the people love it are not gonNA break. So you know to me. These are not hard access. Where accident for basically thirteen percent pod thirteen percent of. Government contracts. Thirteen percent of of. Loans from banks. You know we exit for grants. You know we're actually for. L. Outs. Champagne and in all of our money to take all of our money. into not. Dish it out to me in a fair manner. Is Steph. Saying like. Say. There should be no taxation without representation. Yet. So that's me a legal government document. You shouldn't tax people in. Give them money to people that needed by but don't give it to them when they need it that's just the thing you know. They'll say we got representation but. You know they take our money and give it to people that needed. When we needed they don't give it to us. So that's just not co-, not fair and we can't really go for that. Land. Now you said. Emma Culture here. the system is read a country would of the systems in he'd be and destroy black progress whether by law overt racism or unconscious bias is designed to produce knits. was what you mean by that. I mean, this is West being produced by America. Because of their systems in place. It's not. WHO WE WANNA be. By you know When I say, we need some love was. But this was being produced because. They're making hopeless situations. and. People are going to do whatever they need to do to survive. And when people go overboard. Notice you know. Where see. Where you know they got the new model Nichols now you say, no, White, woods. They produce them to. You know what I'm saying they. got into good evening. You know especially the poor. White. People they don't have great. You know they're they're they're At least we got here par they're they're being tricked to. To. Live on their wideness as. A commodity life and not really. Gain wealth. In real commodities they're they're just saying look. Just be happy you white key everybody else down unto you and whining good. Wealth. Gap. See. The thing is, so the the rich elite whites detail the poor whites hey man to worry about what I get you at least you're white you know. Off that. You'll be much better for the loan nil. eanet shit up for for so long. Sometimes I tell them like you know have nothing because I gotta give it to them I'd give it to the Niggers I can't give it to you when they get mad at us like we're getting something for free. And you know they usually use programs more than we do. Get a new jet if year so. You know it's just. The the rich. use the middle middle class. To. Get, deported fight, against each Has Basically what it is Liz during these economically turbulent times everybody still looking forward, feel more financial secure. So if you're still throwing money earmarked high interest credit card, it's time you check that upstart the Revolutionary Online Linda Platform knows year more than just credit score. Nasr founded how low your upstart Reiki to help pay off high interest credit card unlike other lenders upstart wards you based on your education and job history in the form of smarter rate you don't need a degree or diploma to apply plateau you understand. 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We actually see who the true oppressor ills and his may add ended the date are took. You say what I? At. The end of the day we we don't want audit racism. Why? You know that that ain't even our tip so It's not about us in like we you know is really van coming to a conclusion that. It don't matter what color you are. It's not a tripping on. That is when I say US I'm talking to bat those the ninety nine percent of us who have to share with the one percent of the population has as has most control love, which is the will that's the will dig that one percent is one percent of the population of the Earth controlling ninety nine percent of the Earth's swells and the rest of the one percent of the earth will is what everybody else is scrapping falls in net ears the real enemy. I mean without a doubt and there's things are our elected officials could do to relieve that or learn. In nature chose not to that's why we got gotTa hold them accountable. We hold them accountable when we can you know they really WanNa be in office so That's what you use to make them do what you need to do, and they don't do like I. Said, Sarah do it out to kind of saying heart. Might. Lush. Dana. I. Got. You got me. They don't do it out the CON-. Today hard. Not, only GONNA do it. If you make them is called giving them political will by. Now man as one of you know malicious favorites coming up you you you definitely influenced. WanNa Bryson she down and create own. Mouth Store Shimmer Art Utah Police were NWEA BECCA eighty right To have young black me being treated by the police in late then. NWEA has bring incredible awareness now but timmy, how do you think things have changed from being to know? More awareness you know that we did that song. The police could do no wrong. Rulli nobody would believe. Anybody. Got, arrested over police officer. So. They were not even question of you know Wyan or. What a Excessive, they would just believed off the top. Episode Song. With. Other songs you know I think. Icy have saw car cop killer. were. These saw. You say. The enemy. Yes. So these songs were were. Brought Awareness. So by the time by The Writing King Happened you know which was two years later or so. People were now questioning. Police, and they were actually on trial. and. People didn't just believe them for what they said. And then. You know. in you had. Some even go to jail or or get put off the force or whatever. So you know they was actually getting consequences by Ang's actually happened when you were out align line. and. So I think now we at a point where. You WanNa hear both sides of the story you WANNA see. The video cam the Dash Cam you. WanNa. You know police officers just not going to be believed off the red. He's had to prove that he was in the right. Just like. You know somebody's going to have to prove the suspect was in the wrong so. I think that's what's changed. You know changed where? Is, we are questioning backups we are getting them. Off Force. Some are going to jail. They are being held accountable. It's just not at the rate. that. We would like. Because yes, police unions. Really Kinda. Saved the bad cops and shield them. Notice some qualified immunity. Where they just can shoot you in and noted, do not go to jail. Saudis type of things we gotta get Outta there to get a little more fairness. And the do Megan record I gotta do. You. Know Get Nafta these politicians, these legislators and getting them to to change it. and exposing it and. Own People behind you hold them accountable. So now, tell me when did when did actually switch Yeoman? The. You wanted to make a difference from just not just from using, but actually physically getting involved with the political process in you know what I'm saying when did you become? So aware of what is your consciousness evolved to this point? was. Made. Aware was going on always. kind of got in. Where fitting in in these kind of situations throughout my career? Right now. The situation is so big. and I, believe is my generation's turn. To take over this kind of stuff. In. A we've. watched. How sharpening Jesse Jackson in. The civil rights leaders. No push push for equality in fairness and. You know it's My generation, it's time to take that Kinda Manto. Try to push things forward. You know 'cause. I believe is watching us in generations coming behind US watching us, and watching how we guild to situation right ear. Always wanted to do stuff like this. But I, always felt like I was ahead of the curve. Buddy you know everybody mind when they're. Now everybody my news, right where need to be a we'll take a break into show man and Vienna's which I'm going to represent for our sponsor today mascot if Yin Trimming Annette's. 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So I appreciate that man again tell them what they to go read the contract with black mayor or the CW Ba. Dot World. You could check it out to me. It's a no brainer. A lot of people going to look at it and say, Damn, a lot of this stuff is not already in place. They're not gonNA believe some of the things that's not. Being done on our behalf. So. Go check it out in in our appreciate you too man because. You. You choose to be more than are artists you choose to be more than just you now Saw a movie or TV you know you choose to. To try to help people may. Get a better life. In advance and teach people in compensate and keep keep every day moving in the right direction. So her mouth shoutout to you for what you doing to the statement said kilobytes said If everybody was a little nobody has to do a lack. True. China Care My look he said Lo do my part. Do what you can fast as you can as long as you can as you go. Another thing I think you should also be aware of is not just the poll we vote every day. Will we spend money on certain items and products in bill billions of dollars of practice corporation that's anomaly. Because we can't get to the politicians, we get straight to corporations who are full and the politicians campaigns and they pressure to on. So. Account for workload three plus trillion a year. That's act consumer base of hip hop Black Mirror. redecorate or d'avray. Our spending money to where we will we want to see two people who are willing to do things for the community. At sticking together with saw ninety, nine percent of A. You know you'd be surprised if you just. Took some of your favorite brands that she lied and just ask them. Got Twitter facebook or way to communicate. Don't the black community. You know you'd be surprised how many? Would, jump and do something. Because your accent and you know they got enough of that, they would you would have to change brands 'cause favorite brand we do the right thing. So you know that's the key is to try to push them to do the right thing, and then if they don't Dan, you move on but we don't really get into that after the election if star focusing on these private companies on what they doing and what they're not doing. Our to. Right where on that we missed it So Lloyd's of London head recently have read article where they were denouncing. Air Shameful Role. Bid They long transatlantic slave. So I read the ARGO whether. It's been notable of you guys to apologize in acknowledged the the horrible atrocities with. How about more than a palace? What are you going to rectify the lingering of face? So No, I created a petition in in Senate open letter to the CEO of the end They will be back esque before. Now. But I think that companies like that who actually would data rick? In participation. Yeah, we got we. We need ten percent of that company. May I believe? So you know it's a few companies out there. you know that was directly involved in still in some ways are involved in our pain in either we got to let people know not to invest in those companies and and let people noted that you know they shouldn't be involved in thing I. Kinda you know portfolio got them companies involve you know get rid of that. and. So look, there's a lot of different angles that we can push these companies and I, think we need to use them all. But you know if we concentrate in focus I think we can really get him to make a move in Overdo it all in a scattered way then you never know but you know. I love put Lloyd's of London on my list in a go out on which. You can help me out a couple of more because it's really about spreading the word and getting them. To Get people to tonight invest in them. No more. Israel is at a could negatively, we have a committee of influence. It's Black. People. In. America. And? All fifty me. handled. One of us that represents they'll walk of life the way you know they've fashioned. because. In our ability to relate to them in them going through executive we're going. US telling stories the Dave experience. That caused that gives them more a a comfort. So. We say. This is the wake. Collectively, voluble scored in the same direction whatever the net Reggie go head to give us whatever the fuck me. They see that that's why they tried to pull. All these different tricks on us when it comes to keeping US divided or keeping us. Now, focus on the job at hand. Keeping our minds on stuck really no matter. You know. So I think dander today. On the put it up there. You know. Let people know what's going on. I never worried about doing that. I never worried about talking about what's really going on and how we really need to go ahead. So. Need. To spread the word I'm spreading and I hope you do say for me as Lulu I will I will bet, thank you may take the. 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Big Sean - The Dons Life

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Big Sean - The Dons Life

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The compensation expressed on his podcast meant to be an expression of purpose and truth. This show properly entitled expeditiously is a free exchange of ideas and opinions no judgment. No previously believes no fear. You're encouraged to share your thoughts and ask any question as long as we speak mass through true love and respect for others that we will change the world and speak truth to power on at the time. Now, without further do this is expeditiously I'm ti hairs as was Adam an extradition of your host. Harrison is only show purpose appears. To Intentionally Have especially. That could push to coach a forward challenge doubts perspectives. Evolve levels of consciousness, and we have those discussions with people who are relevant to the discussion. I guess the day man you know what I'm saying is big show. Of what. Up Doe Detroit native. You dig or saying. And cold. Seat like you know I I. Negate a take that away like say your platinum artists to say you you know been. A Kodo see like just a disgustingly meticulous. Just just a artists that perfect your craft by any means necessary and pushes yourself beyond your levels of of limitations and I respect that. God bless man I mean come from obviously man happy in. My to meet me and such an impact on me growing up. So Growing up because it's not like. You know. You. But just maturing at a point in my life where you know trap music with a bay soundtrack for me and you win. Win. Crazy and the you know what I mean. So may I thank you for that? I really really do appreciate it. Thank you for that And I think that is important. You know what I mean because what we're doing is. The record sales, the the number, one chart positions like you just gotTa feel solo album with Detroit too. You know what I mean you you just premiere number. One and number one is this for you. This is my third one actually. Okay. Okay third consecutive number one. Alessio is great. The platinum plaques Shit Great. Welcome semantics. However, we really do to sheet to make a connection with people. Here you? See to me like the number one was Jerry on because for me. Album it was like it was number one in me because of the the contention put into right thought put into the development of myself that I put into it. It was feel like it was my first album Vienna honestly opening so to me. I felt like I'd already wanted a second came out. You know somebody I've had gotTA DIG ON. That was just like you know extra walks. She would go a really appreciate it in the week you came out. The week you came out. You'd get. To me at. Thank you for that. The coaches, the culture should thank you for that. I feel like because. There were other shit. Representative A perspective or a way of life that is in conflict with culture. It is not in the best interest of the culture. So for that to have a number one over big show and to me. Is. Counterproductive. So. At thank you Ma'am for you know being the champion that you needed to be for the culture as you always have been. Meeting the people. That's true. Really so true but if you didn't tap into sounded day related to the Kennedy drove them in your direction more. So than at other she drove him in that because it's easy to. Manipulate. Technology, and to can feed off of sensationalism instead of you know. Presenting True Art. Absolutely People are like based off who? Just you know as I was trying to make sure I stuck to the actual music covid. All end is the art in like what I was saying I wouldn't try to have no like. Brahma. fucking light. You know. Nothing nothing that just wasn't the music of what I was trying to bring to the table right at that. Yeah. That's that's beautiful and I do appreciate people being able to connect with that well now when you talk about like okay. Very in organic in a very genuine way. You. When you say drama to me, that says conflict. Right, every human being has. A CERTAIN LEVEL OF CONFLICT Day to day that they have to overcome, find ways to navigate themselves through and find you know the most. The most natural resolutions tune. Own this I heard several things that I didn't know about you. Right. So a what your records you say. You, had been diagnosed with a heart condition. And they said, you need it for heart. Surgery. And you went to a holistic dot for three weeks that prescribes you a mineral. What was it was a magnesium magnesium. Prescribes you magnesium in three weeks right? Two weeks. Okay and after that. That was no need for any more open heart surgery. So tell you like this happened my heart condition where. Your heart, there are electro there's a, there's a electro. `electricity electromagnetic like. Way that goes makes your heartbeat like that along with your blood and it's like you know your whole respiratory system to. You know and my heart they were saying that my you know whatever makes my heart be like that was awesome. Heart was literally beating like this. So. I couldn't walk from one side of a room to another side of the room was real crazy. And it started getting worse and worse than one time I got Super Z. And it was just it was so bad. I took a shower I'll pass on a shower. Allchin. Open. At a hospital and that's when I did the tests and they're like, okay, you've got this condition. And only way the only way to fix it. You know I was in there for like a week and the only way to fix it is to put a chip in your heart to shock your heart Nah Hey. Yeah every time it started being like that you know it would be a little a little electromagnetic shot the pace or they say we can cut half your heart open and scar a whole bunch of times and a scar should be big enough that the electricity aren't the art properly. So the. Money. So you mean they presented in never any magnesium never thought of magnesium presented. Because that's what they were told. The doctor that they didn't know any, you know loom amounts deducted from house theme, which is still my oldest the doctor you know every time I'm home poker and he prescribed me a couple of things. One of the things he prescribed me was magnesium I mean it was just like a couple of other minerals but magnesium was the lower. He was like look take this who is a natural way to put your body on his natural rhythm? Who Man I want to give my? You know more tests done to prepare myself for surgery, and then they do like to two or three tests had to keep doing it over because it was like for some reason, your heart is just so much better data. told him I me and my mom told him what I did and they come with like Nah. Had it has to be something else like? Okay. So I think. After. That made me use was believer in just holistic medicine absolutely I'm very holistic. As much as I can't be. We know that we will made in God's image and we know that we come from the dirt Air Chev-. Return to the dirt which makes us. If nothing else organic, and synthetic by the makeup of the human body. Regardless of how much synthetic sheet we may put in it. At the end of the day, there is a antidote. Naturally. Prescribed by the Earth. For. Every. Single ailment. The human body could possibly have. I mean visit possibility to get something. There's a possibility to get rid of. It s just true law absolutely I want to know that or not you deliver. A cancer tumor or? Of Virus. But we're not dying or people are not, but I know people who have died from what they are calling this virus. It is it is my ultimate a understanding. My ultimate had this is or theory that Danette Dann from covert they Dang. From pre existing conditions, we must look at America's standard for quality of healthcare. Food. As, far as produce antibiotics that goes into chicken, you know what I'm saying the past. Even call us up an organic you. Absolutely absolutely they there's absolutely positive discussion. America sure those of us to get to travel abroad we're able to see the size of a chicken wing in Jamaica. In. That same as but a chicken wing come out of KFC, churches Popeye's you did. So that's the first thing can tho me a wait a minute. Why did he chicken wings so much small I've never seen a chicken light that just so astronomically buff before he was plucked of his feathers. What about fruit? Bro You see a big big. issue. Also. The absence of seeds within the fruits. That's not cool way. Watermelon today don't have the same kind of sees it. They had the black seeds in nearly extinct I don't know how to fuck they did. How do you get rid of the black seeds in a watermelon only keep white ones I don't understand that I don't. I. Don't get that. Because, as the May, what is the main goal? You know for the for our country is the people or is it the product? Capitalism is capitalism? Capitalism whatever makes the most money shall be done. Okay which in America mom name. Sure at absolute. I'm really I. Think we're we have an interesting. Dynamic that we speak for. US having. A At ties to the American culture. But also being diverse enough to understand other coaches in other perspectives outside of American culture to where we can compare. You never know how good what you have is until you have something to compare it to. What was I talking about Africa I tend to trail off I I'm turning forty. so forgive me Turn a forty Friday grow. Your Money Po- TO MAKE it. The eighteen. Managed to turn forty somehow. Be Oh. I can't believe forty. You know forty such a young age I'm last in. A. Crazy. How do you grow it if you don't mind sharing where? Thirty two. So saying Oh yeah, Edison. Reason to not say. To. Your Ford. Listen this blessed. I love being. I. was talking to. Feel the second half as much as I I I recognize the difference in how my body physically responds to certain. But at the same time, I never want to be a young Nigga game and I would never want to be so out of the know. Is only better. I feel better I little younger than I did when I was twenty two really so it's like you don't even Have Happier, right? Right. Right and that's the truth. That's the true definition of quality of life. You know what I'm saying happiness. Health. You. Know what I'm saying mental, stability. Right there. Absolute. Absolutely I say was adamant we'll take a pause into conversation expedition little niche. You know the wait is finally over and football is back. He dig. You might not be at the game this year, but you can still be in on the action at bit online bidding land is going extra mile to make sure you can get in on everything imaginable this season from game spreads. and Total the team players and coaching props. 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The deal. which you do you know what I mean like you know out choose the former rather than the letter any day you did. Boroughs Ancor size man like I said You go saying it from the Dope House to the White House now you. Have an interesting story as it pertains to your career in Detroit, you manage to get your break. By Finding Cognac and free styling for him. And convincing him the sign you were so dope that date. The he decided to invest in your art, investing your ambition, investing your vision and your beliefs. Opportunity hand of folk did you do there because I I'm asking questions that I feel like people who are nat in our position but who are in a position similar to the one that we made it out of, and they need to know the cheat code. It was it was a lot wanted. So it because that's In high school and I was like already sent all my cd's and I allowed that you couldn't school to go go go. Thank you. Tell me did. Not would've but I. Think. Oh God she got. Out telemarketer catch so much shake one, hundred, twenty dollars but I have been doing a show every Friday night. Had, a show is not something that thing they needed to in. Atlanta moves in my office. That was show called Friday night side for where it would be. By, local talent and whoever was they battle rap each other there's a convinces down to like eight, hundred, eighteen people and. People would get the rap on songs on radio over the beach. You know what I'm saying it was a Friday ciphers of another four. Every week and it helped me sharp from US deals. You know being AMC to help I was writing new verses every week for real doe at the bad. When you battle rapping somebody know what I'm saying. So I did that for like a year and a half but. Some. Scenes. and. Drive. They registration, and by the way I have a song on. Friday night site for what is inspire. ooh. Says from McClellan at radio called Friday night cyber. So Indeed. promoting they registration. And I got a good relationship with that radio station. So I was just there the night before he came on Saturday who out there that Show a lot said I left my cell phone. Addict. Back they knew who wanted a DJ like okay. Hey, right down off. So, Liberal Party sees Ivan Sonera high school at a press kit back Dan, like whole. Rate. From shot. Ran In the. You know ask the rap for me say he really that time like that. But he says we as most of us do most of do you shouldn't take that I wanna let. I WanNa let new artists in upcoming artists and you know future Jars Know Jeb because you run into somebody and they say man ain't got time he reached out though hold that against them or take their as a defeat for yourself. That is about you never know what the next motherfucker going through Yemi. Running two hours late like I get it by then he was like I told him. I was walking with them and explain to them the last call lines I them with the impact, add on me, and that was very interesting that was that was well played very interesting move appealing to the ego of the egotistical artists was very good. Out in the clutch. And it was though it was true for. Yeah. As we walk and we get to the exit of the station here me up and stop walk any, hear me on rapid drive and rapid right in new verse every single week for over a year. So I'm I got so many wraps that onto you running a one after the other sound like one long ever. Yeah and doing radio show tell me how to rap under pressure because I'll be so nervous every week on radio even. One of my favorite rappers you know what I'm saying it was like I was ready to ghost view you know. So it gets cut through to him. gave him a CD gave them you know the press can now is the initial meeting doc-. was there. You Know Don Yada. Who? My Dog I do a real impression. He. He fatman fat. Quietest killed. Yeah absolutely. Look I have a lot of respect for quite as. He really can do. Blazed the trail for the collaborations. Like Shit supreme is doing she. Is doing she did a virgil is door by he can't. Here. Yes you say dynasty. Dossier Series Really I got my deal to witty I was along really kept the console. Okay. You have someone champion in your your project Kinda keeping in. Ear even after you had your initial into action yet. Okay bit. Yeah. Dies tell me later on in my career. It's like La Basically, that was the firs- interaction you know we. And it's honestly it's two years after. The deal. Okay. Two years when I graduated high school everybody went to college I full rats in Michigan State. No what I'm saying. Academics Offshoot Yeah you had a full ride academic scholarship to Michigan State and said Fuck that I'm going good music. Yeah. I did excellent. Excellent decision well played Sir. Here's the thing. The MOM loses I come from a family of scholars. My mom is the English teacher. Teach everyone that explains a Latin that explains less of. A mile also had a dream am on orders left average dream. She said you know as is important as education is I know how important it is to look back on your life? Be Happy that you follow your dreams she was like you can always go back to school he's smart enough to over. That you should try pursue. This is what you really want to do so. My whole family was against it mainly like except my mom. Even, though they were against it, they feel support me though you know my grandma was in World War Two. ooh Wanted To Vima Black Captains on were award to shoe first female. You know like she was a teacher counselor. So education her she came from West Virginia and little better away to a better life for her. So she saved up her whole life for me to go to school I, had all these vase that I ended up spending on studio time But his grandma was. Not Just see she passing twenty fifteen love she saw you. Yes she saw me Hey I bought a house for them mall. You know we moved everyone out into you know a nicer placing those. She saw that happen. So it was cool to see that circle. Man I mean that's I don't think youngsters understand how valuable. Moments like that are. You dig what I'm saying I feel like we chase a lot of Account Flash in the PAN moments, you know saying moments that are important for millisecond, and then after you, you know you pass that moment because time is fleeting you dig what I'm saying. the we constantly evolving. And time was important right this second. If it ain't. Five minutes, five days, five years you know what I mean. Then Shit really didn't deserve the of energy that you put into it so. A lot of time. We put a lot of engine a Lotta time in the sheet there ain't as important. As we think it's So. That is important for I think young people to hear that you actually. Were able to to show your your ambitions be feel in coming to fruition to your grandma. In front of your grandma who? May Have. had some you know some apprehensions Concerns Abacha decision. And she and she got to see you succeed and especially the time between said, it took a couple of years after I graduated high school. So you can imagine a time where thank you at this fast. And she was like you shouldn't shouldn't with the school like you could have got all. You could do got a whole year you could have been halfway done by now. You know that was tough to endure. Aw. Everybody I knew from high school that was all you know having jobs and she. Record deal with someone. And I remember when everybody graduated dowse finally when I got to be on the cover A. Freshman in. That was like some validation that I could be proud of the show people and I was when I started really started really making a name for my stuff. So it was quite a journey in quite a test of the ego and faith and. You know have an unbreakable faith. Even. 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He didn't believe in doubt more than he believed in his vision more than he believed in his cell. and Desam that we all gotta do every artist that made it to this point head overcome. All of. Our our it was ordered and. It was harder than Sunday's will harder than others. No. It's s ego. You know it really shows you I. Okay. Hey. You GotTa put pride. Aside you got. You know not be bigger than you are because you're supposed to be signed a Cayenne west and people's eyes especially house. Sometimes it can work against you. Yeah people. They thank you. Pose the habit already. So he you to count yeah you still as. Muslims are understand you probably be doing for me now. Right like. Like that. Sometimes, it makes the journey of the artists more difficult. Absolutely. There's styles are really needed money to I. Needed to get a job back in. A Paris. I not figure out my way was made it work somehow and Use Them for sale we. So you know what I'm saying. So congratulations to you for finding a way outside of you know what I'm saying stepping outside the law or if you dare step outside didn't get caught. So Still Kudos to you man, you know you know what I mean. But you speak a lot about that time between. When you met Conway and he actually you know allowed you to opportunity to to show your skill. And the time when she actually started working for you, which brings me to my next question. How did if you had to be signed and then have to wait Life Oh years before you release the now. A lot of people are not a lot of people don't know that she was signed. To DEF JAM and but with no movement, no saw release no real action for four years. How did you remain vigilant in that? There's no life blueprints how to do it. I mean especially back then 'cause it was like. It was the beginning of a new air game like it was like makes circuits were popping like. It was like it was weird I'm like. Okay we try get on radio site novel. Would idea was our like? All right. Let me just do me like what I'm best at. I just ducked I didn't try being anybody that wasn't and I was still trying to figure myself out to I realized. I. Was just growing up. Nineteen, you know what I'm saying. I. Just like was, I should drop a tape. You know all linked. I found some producers to help me. Get my vision across you know and we are recording my I make saving basements you know out of the closet A. Microphone, you know what? I mean just like just just going in. You. Know I was able to have kayak like. You know. My Dad can put the free like I just used it for what it for what I could feel like. If I saw let me get this. Let me get really make this. Brand and just really have to do it on my own. To. You know. So I didn't miss treated that as like okay. That's extra. Time but it's still me because there's a lot of people have the same Kosan was just not doing nothing and I refuse to be that. And I started with one take did another one got some more fans than I started doing shows for like five hundred thousand dollars opened enough for people you know then I did another mistake that. With Don Cannon. That really broke through. Up. My Home Down Kin. Yes, finally, famous volume three I'm Ryan, my first show in Atlanta. Or are sold out shows at the was at the masquerade. Everybody's I, sold. That was Travis Scott proudly his first that show. I'm going through the great man and. Head off a wall to wall I was. Concerned. Was fabricates. Yeah traveling brother too and I remember. At that show silence like man he he was I ain't think this is GonNa be like this like. and. I this I just can't build in broken building and then I started working. On, my first album who's also about away. Yet. Who are. Brother brother. Dion. Also known is no idea light just you know a genius of our times. Absolutely right. He's actually the person who pattern his production style or his acumen after. Roy's Mitch a absolutely. So he he brought us kind Yay. So I'll Yuma focused who You know who have love for Chi have no idea who know ideas. Do you research. Not. Be Surprised. You'd be surprised. You really be surprised. So it's important that we articulate that man that we got you know what I'm saying at least plant the see. So those who didn't know can water to see give sunlight. So it can grow into a full-blown play, but we get to again information because we feel like just because the information is available. Because, we would have when we were in our moment of not knowing, we would have taken advantage of autism information, a user type image. So because of that, we think the other people are doing what we would have done. But everybody ain't doing it sometimes my folks looking to people like you. Me and others to say, okay well, that's what we should be doing. 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I mean this happened with Ferrelli antennae? y'All written about nat did know about it for real actually for real missy and Timbaland. A lot all it's out with Teddy Riley. That's what I'm saying. So some that goes on and I'm sure there goes on to this day so. I'd have people off of me. I produces Alpha mediais who would dope a sheet right and you know I produced to fuck around but I haven't. Already know you do it. Yeah. But like you know, I started around as producer because I just couldn't afford myself. The level of talent that I thought was was you know that could fit my rhymes or they could fit my thoughts, my visions of. As art is you know what type of track you want to? Yes. You GotTa as you right the sheet you hear it he. Like produced on to like some even on my last album, there's one on a couple of which one which ones this one guy with Willie call everything this missing that's one of the ones. Is just like we we hear it in our heads. We do already know but even saw like, ask like way back when Nikki dowse a song that I produced as well. Okay. I wasn't smart enough to take the production credit like. I made the beat with the in terms like I literally with them like literally. So. Those are my brothers don't take anything away from what they disappointed to know. Is it this with this discussion is? For, the purpose of benefiting the PTA will. Nobody docker they did they they. They deserve their credit to the other. Aside that's the thing. Everybody it seems as though is waiting on one big score. One big thing that's going to change their lives forever. That isn't the way it works. It is a combination of consistent progress being made. This opportunity leads to the next opportunity which leads to the next opportunity to just get bigger and bigger and bigger until you reach a point where you up. Sales. But a lot of focus feel like okay. This is the first placement got is big show L. 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So let's just let me just at least say it a makes anywhere Could you get into how let me about splits 'cause I contributed here you know May to be a lawyer compensates it could be a casual conversation but just. Keep me in. mind. Because one or two percent change your life you dig what I'm saying. So we talked about how I feel the weight for four years how you had to take matters into your own hands. And build it up. I'm all doing and that gave me a solid fan base that gave me like a fan base that I feel I gonNA last. Like you you have your core fan base. It. Arrived for tip twenty years from now. I know what? I'm saying twenty years from now me sixty five. But because of way will. I mean abby sixty, four into. Man but I think that. It's important that people see the she don't happen overnight. You have to invest. The sacrifice yet the discipline yourself. In remained. Consistent. Is. Consistent. Ling and repetitive. Contribution And you've got to carry us. So she she'll he this something that nobody told me this is got a fucked up at and was sent me back a little bit like reason why I hadn't put out mount for years as. Far Doubt up here who wasn't taking care myself. But I can we take care of heels? Can carry yourself from me is. One of the things to take care of yourself for me to take time for yourself I was doing it for everybody else like doing it from a family doing for. Everybody all like being in a studio all the time. Right but there's a balance to. Like there at times are would be in the studio all day and not be productive as I should have been. But just because I'm in a studio I, feel like I'm doing the right thing but really that man, I've been the right thing knew I realize now that there are times where I was in a studio for our and got more done in an hour and a half and I did in fourteen hours. Allies that you've gotta listen to yourself, you know an SM I wasn't doing and it got to a point Robert Myself Out me. So I'm in a studio not coming up with Shit feeling depressed. I'll fill in the most anxiety I. Ever felt in my life you know, I'm feeling like. Hopeless you know an Audi- things that you know miles getting the best in. The. Acid stop everything I was doing because I was going to self destruct. Mean and added I had to. Get it, talk it through I had to go to their fee I had to start taking care of my body more I had to eat better. I had to work out. I. Had to spiritually take time to strengthen that foundation you know through meditating drew a working with people who are really spiritually grounded and have a connect a strong connection with God. This naughty staying. So it was like I that's a time. You know to a long time for me. It took about a year. To get. For me to get on a rhythm on a a, you know a consistent schedule and I still feel out of these ways not to deal with it a lot better now. Sir, let's take a break from the conversation to talk man I. Have you had any big screens. 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A lot of ads we feel like you said anxiety in lead time we a lot of pressure will we can't control the things that are happening. But yeah, you know but we can control our how we feel sure sure how we allow ourselves to you. Yeah, we allow ourselves. You just give somebody that power when you let somebody take down and. I feel like as a artist you gotta stay on Your Path like Hail Valley is like it's GonNa be people to the right of you is going to you. To be throwing, Shit Talk Shit in it if you give them attention, it's going over to them in ages going to be throwing it and talking more to you. But it's like you gotTa Stay Your Valley grow and realize as art is a heart is wide open. So we care what people think but that ain't why you're doing if you're doing it because this is your reme- at least for me I feel like this was my life purpose is to give inspiration out the best way I could do that is to you know 'cause down to my story got on it's like a rap fairytale you know. As, a different story. I realize my whole life is since inspire motivate and the best way for me to do that as through my music. So I make songs OPTIMA harder to I'm walking in my purpose you know I'm exhausted where I feel like as an artist light we have to I. Think. For me being Lieber of the scales being. you know saying I think that I kinda have found. Wayne Yeah Me Wayne Jisi. A few of. Will Smith. Is A few. I don't absolutely May. I love. I feel I feel like. A way to balance caring because we must care. We gotTA. CARE. In order to know how to connect you dig what I'm saying if I had no empathy in where everybody else going through like for instance right now we up. So. US being. Oh. We have no impotent no consideration for the people who are not up we wouldn't able. To use that testimonies to relate we saying. But. We gotTA balance caring. Would not giving a fuck. So we got to not give a folk. GATT in net give a full. So is the balance of caring enough to relate. But. Knack given a fook. Enough. To not be affected by the year the outcome. This layered at you know not only the people that don't have good Taser I. Don't even know it though because they ain't been expose is also people say things to get a response or riser. We live in a social media air, which is a beautiful thing right because we all connected. Is a lot of ways that we all are unified their social media which do you. But also like you just gotTa, remember that some people on there for different reasons. Talking about this baby boy big boy's neighborhood not. Be, worth Marquez. He was assigned man we live in a air where people talking Abou Smash or pass or where people picking apart people's children or shit like just he was just shoot he's. Cigna me you know what I'm saying is sickening. You know the thing is dislike you just gotTa understand that people are in all university they all world and that is that yeah, you gotTa Care but you also gotta not give a fuck are let it throw you off because at that point you afraid to be self if you afraid to be judged. Any beneficial for nobody that's American. That's an American thing by the way. S An American thing to you know? Be. Afraid to ask. Questions. To to always feel like you're supposed to know the right answer. And you feel judeged or you feel marginalized or ostracized. If you don't know something, you feel everybody else knows that's an American thing. Outbreak day down to me a little bit well, I mean like I learned that like I have a boss in his stroke the. Dow fucking out in La and he he's African he's from Africa. Nigeria knows from where but he he knows saying he he from Africa and he was like Yo. When you when you throw it will you throw a punch and you're not sure if you did it right ask don't feel. So you know don't feel like you can't ask the question because there are no stupid questions you don't know. What I'm saying if you don't know the best thing to do is ask. and anytime, you feel apprehensive about doing that that's a fear that has been indoctrinated in us by the culture of our country. That's accurate. As a key light just imagine broke I've seen of just just pull up in our neighborhood as you know like we just kicking it. Hey, how you get to the highway from here man you from you on how to get to the highway from your mad at them what you gotTa do is. Saying. That happening overtime from birth being in an environment that has that kind of judgment. Just for mere question that's going GonNa Cause you overtime after you've grown up, you become a young adult or whatever. Man. Let me pick it you who a question to. Ask a question. Of Not, I don't know. Just kind like this in armor that we put on us even if up consciously. Initiate, is counterproductive. Disruptive to personal growth Yemi. But in eighteen until we reached the stages that you've reached I'm I'm you know still achieving to reach that? Finish even you know we always opera everybody. We get people, right so there are three versions of lesson enough said this so many times there's how we see ourselves how the world sees a- how we really are so. US. Understanding that, how we see ourselves versus had the world sees US versus who we really are. That battle. Right Is is constant. And we gotta be Kinda like. Conscious. Insecure secure and confident enough to know that we're so good at what we know. That we don't have to be ashamed of what we don't know. You're going to say, but does she come with growth of Evolution Yummy? Grow. Council leading US like Lenin be non at. That's okay. That's okay. You don't know. Okay. I should decide. Do Not know we all we place. The responsibility. Or we imagine I just think about it. The way people see. Obama you don't imagine he wake up one day and don't know something. Can you imagine Obama trying to figure out how to do some. It goes against your perception of who you envision him as being but the reality lls. We're all just waking up trying to figure this shit at. The NATO roll with it. Can you imagine Jay Z. Not knowing how to live up to my simple sheet like if he can't get the TV to work can you imagine Jay Z. picking up a remote control and that know how to work his bucket TV? Happens the everybody wrote. You do go ahead but we perceive him how we perceive them how they perceive us. The pressure of that makes it can do. We get anxiety. In public places where we we like, for instance, I can't play basketball digging saying there's just some I you know I. Ain't shit because I spend time on it when I was a kid muggles, Ryan bikes playing basketball out Selah crack. So I just didn't develop that skill. You know what I'm saying but I am competitive and you know what I'm saying if the idea is to keep that ball from getting who find a way to do. So. Because that isn't my thing. You're gonNA catch me when I'M GONNA walk into a place where cameras are rolling in his buddy people say she. Take shot shooting. KNOB rice. Do. That my man. Hey, doing our so but you know I think that people need to understand what is I mean you you get hurt quote. Is You get to give you a chance to suck it something. You gotta give yourself a chance the as so. That's the only way that you evolve and get better. And I feel like you've mastered the art of it you being open, you share yourself with the world showing all of your strengths, showing you being vulnerable enough to show you weaknesses. You dig what I'm saying and let people in on the parts of your life. Did it's hip hop artists most of the time we are candles. Trained to conceal. No one of my biggest issues I is communication Bron. I'm not the best communicator. That's that's like. Passed down from family like say my brand grandparents was in world. War. Who Writes Beautiful People They know how to express their emotions and I don't know if that trickle down to me and like I'm not the best communicator even though I. Even though I can tell the story or you know do all these things right as like. Sometimes. I can't get across how billing you know that's a very important thing that's been working on to the site astroid ashtrays a lot on my relationship with my family sometimes. But other relationships you know what I'm saying like business communication is so important and romantic business friendship bath at everything. And I I'm not the best communicator. So I've been working on that more to Hey, let me ask you a quick. Would you need to pull off for you call? Will you go? Let me say time I'm for you you need to go check out auto dot COM rock. Auto Dot. com. 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I have an ability to articulate the sheet, the cell. Oh, my mind and I can. Convey that message into you and I. Like many different ways words mid like just okay. You'll see it when I say anyway. Okay. Cool. I'm trying to say it this way so. and. That frustrates me more. See your. Your inability to communicate right is to keep you for being frustrated I'm not infinite nobody feel any Trenton about it was. So my mind because I don't want to deal with the moment when I say and they don't get it I don't want to deal with it. So the keep me for dealing with that angle say shoot. You say, now me on other another high. Oh I think I think I have the words to tell you exactly how filling in you should understand me. So GonNa, take a stab at it. So when I go the first time Funky dumber. Okay. Okay. So this I tried again like Oh, she's not crazy. I but if you really listen, you'll see. And after thirty four times the did on work there. If like fuck you wrote like at that point I'm like man, you know what? Fuck you fuck fuck I ain't know motel. Yeah. At least you get least you get across the you know no never but sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Get it across across an in. So I didn't internalize it is what you're saying I got it out. Tiled. Ryan. Arnold is about not realize you know That communication. So important insight communication could save a nation. You know that that saying is so important I. I really do think that communication is the way. I said this all. If this even makes it makes total sense to me I say communication is the British the salvation. God is holding our hand to walk across but like any bridge miss out on a single steph. Communication is communication. Is that every step of you know like right? That is something that I'm working on well. Continue to work to understand communication is a two way street. The person has to be as willing to receive. This, MRI. COMPANIES RIGHT ON A. They have to be the other. The other side has to be as willing to receive this message. As you are willing. To convey this message. Now a Lotta time disconnect calm because mortgage ain't really willing to tap into what you're saying ain't buying into what they NIN place their minds, hearts and perspectives in a place where they can even see it away other than their own. Yes and you feel like you wasted your time at that point. Here's an example. Say Okay I saw the president be mad about this is a clear example at athletes kneeling during the national anthem. Day disrespecting the flag and I'm like. Obviously. A black represents justice equality. And Freedom, which are things that we're clearly not getting. His literally is almost like as you know, they've Dave feel that isn't live right? So it's like. Nobody communicating to him that? This. Is Why we're getting shot in the street we can't you know. Police officers began. You know with no with no repercussions suicide. That's a clear example of I who is communicating like. Listen. You Right. However. They know. They know they know exactly what? You saying like. Making up reasons to. Make US thorough legitimate. In oppressors number one job is to press. So anyone speaking out standing up against oppression, they're going to disagree. There go and even if they don't know why he disagreed your life. I've gone up the white people who support trump and I say, hey. You said make America great again. The period of time you think America was the greatest Tim, what you trying to replicate. Dado have. The. Answer. Well you. It's It's no great for you. But if you look at the totality of Americans and what America is supposed to represent. Never had never represented that. Tell me a time that you trying to go back to. The is a is a in body, the embodies that and they never can answer. Like. Listen I asked. Air Qaida right. There's when he start wearing the head now that she which I wanna get into what you later but. He stopped wearing the hands. And out like eight. What you do like what you mean you you wet at head this make America. Great. Again, I would period you talking about. And he was like, well, you know the industrial age, the Dutch appear would like him before. Like. You do notice like Jim Crow like this. You know this and like that time is still a time when we were marginalized and light. And women didn't have the same kind of rights and so you know that you. Exactly. So you know you saying, Ooh, that you want to get back to the times of then is kind of. Slap in the face to those people who didn't have the same rights and liberties as we have now you understand there. S Break Communication. Got Me Nowhere as she sat me know where like yeah. But love everybody you know. So but that led to US doing record. We did Kiei versus the people which I felt like it was in immaculate display of two people from different sides of the spectrum candlelight this. Hashing it out. Very, well, done in articulated to. Really impressed by the cast of an assault man. Thank you. She was haphazard issue was not done. We didn't plan on doing this. She that song was at the end of a four hour discussion. At the end of at the we've been talking for four hours and none I didn't change his perspective he didn't change As Lie Yo. Now he said it was his idea. He said, why don't we just do a song about this? And I said. You show. You will do that. He was like, yeah, man this is. So then we just got being with off you know if it's creativity edify when he finished I started when I when I finished, he started but I want to ask you. Is Your mentor in the the the. The gatekeeper that kind of ushered you into this business and him being so outspoken on. So many different levels about so many different issues and TOPIX How does that? Feel to you as 'cause you from Detroit. S. Different. Different you know what? I'm saying being replaced Light Detroit Oakland. CHICAGO. New Orleans. You know I mean Atlanta. IGGO saying like you know slow different. So you bear from Detroit a lot of the stance is that kind gate takes personally the separate apart from you and his relationship even though you ain't got shit to do with his opinions in his perspective, how does that make you feel being tied in and Societa too? Like acid. He's entitled to his on fans as I am right I won't mind but. Is Not surprising. I'm not surprised by it at all because Kai is always been opinionated. He's always been somebody to speak his mind. He's always like gone against the grain or just or if that's how he felt that's how I feel good I don't. I can never hold against them how he feels a like I say that somebody who? Jay's my leg. I, gave me the opportunity to give Mama. In a cre- event, you know my grandma grandma rice is. Always going. Creatively respect him. On another level. So who is kind of hard that he to ask that question right during these? Turbulent Times. Everyone's looking for a way to feel more financially secure. So if you steer needlessly throwing money every more high interest credit card debt, it's time it's time you checked out upstart the revolutionary online lending platform that knows you're more than just a credit score. Now's the time to find out how low your upstart rate can be to pay off high interest credit code like the Linda's upstart Kim reward you based on your education and job history in the form of smarter rate, you don't need a degree or diploma to a plateau. You dig what I'm saying start lets you skip going to the bank because it's completely online they offer loans from one thousand to fifty thousand dollars. 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Even does even in times of disagreement you just rely on your loyalty to heal. Throwing with in a Lotta Times disagreed on a lot of thing and we had we had argue it out. How to fuck you argue Cayenne Bro. Like I I tried it I. Try I've tried that she I three voter. Live with a headache every time and I was like your Amer even. Call. It like now is arguing is arguing when you state attract steady like now bro. Is Right here you can't see it is. Yeah well, one of the things that he always does he respects he respecs. I. Respect individual always through. Pain district you don't agree with you the respect you and I think that's that's. That is a measurement of somebody who is. Who is really selfless? You know somebody who really you know rather you agree with them or not. He stays not like he gonNa cut you off you know what? I'm saying that in that way at least for the Situation Okay I get it. Oh. Talking about music could like sure everybody in light totally stop you from talking the way people say I do my guest expeditiously but I'm working on getting better bringing. So. Like him working himself up to the the statute or the status that he has in this culture, he doesn't have to listen to anyone. Else. So his ability or willingness to listen to people. Is a form of selflessness you say. Who and I think that you had no matter what He's so much as an artist that you've got it. You're always then a like. I feel like that's the reason why do audio things and it's like there's no way you could castle him or anything because. I mean to me artistically is that you always hear Chi to me that's his optic. He's incredibly. by He's incredibly I'm listening to what I tell everybody I'm listening to it or just listened to it although I'm I wanNA hear it. Absolutely as We is like an of the close however, I could do with that. They went someone close I can do that. You know money and the I'm not renting the by the you know. Potato sex with the die in Hosanna. For Eighteen, hundred Jebediah kyw putting name on I ain't GonNa do that. But I do respect the fact that he took time to invest in his ambition to be a fashion design. He went an intern when he was already a big stock, you know what I mean taking account time you could have been. Sailed in the French, Riviera a big yet man with a bunch of bitches in bikinis and doing the Kinda sheet I chose to do He could have done that instead he went an inter-. You know impairs amongst the WHO's who in the fashion industry. And I respect that because that you know evolved itself in in you know it may him what he is today the acronym fashion that he is today I respect that. I respect. So. Kinda me and. We. got. Some fucking. Out I mean, yeah, we do have clasby. Relationship is so fucking unorthodox is so amber dextrous I. Don't understand how we could be polar opposites in our. Perspectives opinion and and still can. have. A commonality when it comes to art and music and how it should be monetize. Because that's one thing. Politics, and like that you know that's one thing that's just one subject is very important. One right is one that. Is. has a great effect on our environment. Our our neighborhoods and where we live right but. y'All. Connected on a level as deeper than that y'all connected on a artistic level. On a on a have a brother, a brother to shoe shoe. So even with even admits, ask you was rows going against my brother complete different opposites at a spectrum, but still my brother. Absolutely I think that's a perfect example would will be a in my relationship is Tuesday but he's done some she. May Have fought that man look for when he was a listened when he went to the White House when he went to the White House and they may dad did this today man out like Bro the fuck a you do. This shit ain't the move. Also the hair it took Michigan Heritage said. She disagreed ously roll like you can't just do that. But at the same time, the message that he's using right now about equity in independence for artists within the music. Industry. A hundred percent in totality behind I you know I. Think he's absolutely right about this. So I can support this as much as. It should be supported. Now Kaya I I will tell you mayor produce probably one of the greatest. Some of the greatest music that I have been a part of my life. one of which being doing my job just doing my job that was the record that he did for meal trap music. First Time. For timing. For Time in the studio with. Also my first time hearing. Jesus. Walks before it came up. Man While we were recording do a majority. I'm GonNa let us Shit I'm working on. We'll let you see what any plate that she essay. But you crazy. Immediately. ally. But you crazy she won't do that. Why would you I mean And they will before they will before wire new before out. And You work was was were you working at this time? I was definitely working with to is my Dr Dre so talk brought me in the game you know what I mean the first producer Goto was to. Also Tong. Yeah. Those one. Into Studio together, dancing or was. was. Token gay found themselves they they developed informed their relationship. You know after that a few years later. But at the time when he? You go crazy man if you think you get on the radio in talk about Jesus, walks and so on and so forth. I was wrong. He was right and he showed me that. So you know what? I'm saying I'll always. Ask that I think is the moment that allows me to give him a certain elevated level of consideration. That I wouldn't because I've been wrong before when he came to me with some sheet ally now no man. And he showed me. And is not saying that he can't be wrong. Obviously absolutely night he'd been wronged several times then to now and I, you know what I'm saying but I still subconscious light. because. You know what? When people when people touch your heart? You know in a way. I'm not saying like in the deepest way people such a harder becks you or you know. For anybody is just like you kind of have a somewhat of a more of a like. Just. More open to what they gotta say even if you don't agree with it, it's like. Okay. You know as far. As certain people, Afoot. Obama started talking crazy we might be. Here I. Think my hypothesis, my theory about yet. And I've said this to him too. So I ain't really got no problem saying publicly. I feel like he was ostracized cise to the point where he anikin skywalker himself. Digging up, saying like I remember. I was imprisoned so I you know what I'm saying time with standard steel of me. I remember when he got on stage. Sh- Nash there might add Taylor. Swift's hands. And but indefens- he did it in defense of say. Right. As. Inebriated Ebay of. Being. And is inappropriate as it may have seen. He did she because he felt that the people who were given out these awards were doing it without enough consideration for our culture in our contributions to it. And I think he was right about that. How he handled it definitely row you know what I mean just like. Compared it to let's. Communication absolutely. Let's Let's compare that to the moment. When LOMU HOT UP ON STAGE. During the New York New York performance. Jay Z and Alicia. Keys right. equally inappropriate. Might be more appropriate what I'm saying, but she didn't get the same bat last she didn't get the same counter. The President, the? First. Black President. Qalqilya asshole publicly who's from his same city of Chicago. Can you imagine, right? Putting your place in yourself in a line of fight. Hapu stay snatching the Mike out of. I guess you could call America's sweethearts. One of the one of the national treasures of America being Taylor swift smashing a my outta her hand as a black man. Own. Hennessy. That's that's elevated level of. Their own hennessy saying. I'm. GonNa Change with My sister should win this war. Say Ills everything that data doing this in. In, the defensive. Right. And after that moment being ostracized by. The American public and potentially I don't know even being. Used by and Jay Z and your inner circle now, I don't know if this is true but this is kind as version. You dig him saying. That will drive you into a very dark place. Any of nobody comes into this dog place to hand you a handout. Excel. Someone like. Donald Trump. Who sees a way that he can manipulate your power and potential with the people that he? Doesn't have as much of an influence on in Canada you know what? I mean. So, accuracy that ought to our offer excuses own explanations it almost craziest I. I never thought that it was even possible for somebody. Like Donald Trump will be president because donald trump was respect the in Iraq community rainless. Not. Emmy for my number said, he wanted to get you wanted to do some shit. I ran into him at the airport in Atlanta. and May I ask me for my number? I'm like. Here you two, thousand, five, two, thousand, fold. Before I caught my case, this was early early. and. He knew. That would mean he was tapped into the coach. 'cause I was like you know a big time mainstream I wasn't as big as you are now. At might have been as big as forty two. You know what? I'm saying thousand, four, two, thousand, four. Because you are now It's the two, thousand, seven, eight, nine, I mean the BS. Big Big show on his right now. Yummy. Early all I was really like you know the best kept secret. Is that what you did? Okay. What year to? Come out two, thousand three. You you were pretty big then. As she. Was Pretty that fifty cent got anything to say about it. which brings me back to which brings me to my next topic. Grow a pair, pick a date fifty. So you announcement little policy discussion just mellow. You know my ad revenue so In two thousand, three I may have been be against certain areas of society, which will of like the underserved areas of the community that we all know too well. But I don't think on a mainstream level that I made it to a certain point that you already have that you made on your first album now mind you. It took a consistent. Light advancement consistent level of growth from album to album this. To the other four you was map. Appreciate it. Thank you and it means a whole lot that goes back to the connection. That is most important when artists. Artists put out music because I made a certain connection to you. You didn't give a fuck how big was what I was grammy nominated with. A number one billboard chart topping our you didn't give a damn about that. You only cared about the connection that I made with you and the people around you. Know what I'm saying and that go back what we were talking about early I. I may have been big in that way but I just wasn't a global kind of you know what I'm saying. I want mainstream. Your IRA. A sure. But point he'll. He recognized me saw me in that moment in that period of time and say, Hey, you know, I, know who you are I wanna get your number and you know we should. Alike. Okay. Yes. Sure I absolutely we never spoke or anything you know. After that but just for him to kind of identify me no, me point me at you know saying that Kinda, shows the his his awareness of the culture that takes me to another thing that I heard in your in your music. Another thing that you know you can't wear your sleeve is your relationship which which, which, which a lady, and you said your music that the things that you go through get so crazy to where you you think that it contributed to the loss of a child. How Dead Affect Your Art your artistry it had it defect candlelight how you can proceed in the relationship because I've gone through the same thing. I'M GONNA. Tell you what happened with me I. I broke up with my old lady the time and at Brooklyn Lady. She we weren't married. Then and and it was really awesome. She won't one thing I want another. So we can come to We can't come to a compromise. So just fuck it was just going to break it off. it just. So happened at the time she was pregnant and. A lot of things happened during the time that we were broken. You know what? I'm saying like a lot of things. You dig what I'm saying. And and she inevitably had a miscarriage. And I carried a bear the brunt of that for so long and I ain't nobody ain't nobody bad. No Shit like that. I like Dan my fault. You know what I mean And move forward it altered some decisions jaded some judgment. Because I just can't second guessed a question. Whether or not I was making a right to see whether I was doing the right thing without doing it because I thought this was the reason why this happened you know what I mean second guessing third a four guessing That's what happened to me. But. I wasn't brave enough to talk about I. Didn't talk about it in my music you D so I just WanNa know how similar of experience did you have and what made you be brave enough to talk about it in Well when I came to the conclusion making album life. Okay. Dismal real purpose to. They'll somebody inspire somebody motivate somebody. I. May have to sacrifice my privacy to an extent and talk about things that all comfortable for me. Like even when I was talking about my heart disease as something that I compartmentalize now remember. A lot of my family being like don't mention that people moon deals which they might look at you like you. You know you'll have a strong heart and all these type of things. Like you can't handle certain things. I never saw that or like even with this it was something that's like, okay I know there are a lot of people who have to deal with miscarriages and losing. And losing a child and it was like as comfortable as it is. And as relevant as it is out here that much the music analysis like I got. I gotta put it out there for people who? Can relate to that and people who need to realize that they not along. Do that you know because that's that's what year to do if you to entertain here fire. Like, I'm GONNA have to sacrifice a lot of a lot of privacy from art. For the greater. Good. So that Our meaning behind it, and of course. In. Doing that though it was. It doesn't just involve me involved art to write. Some that I communicated in like. Sprung out of nowhere right. was maybe we'll take a policy into compensation expeditiously. Let you know the wait is finally over and football is back. 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Make sure you use Promo. Code Parque A. Sign Up. Bonus visit better La. Dot Ag, and don't forget that Promo Code Paula Campbell in for you sign up bonuses on land your own last sportsbook experts and it's almost like if you ask her and she says that she over the have a problem with it. Then you know saying what the opinions of others really me. Yeah. That's that's what it was. You know but. By some nice do. Definitely on so sal I can't even don't go will. GonNa will get better, but it will disappear first of all. I WANNA. Thank you. For, your patience you dig what I'm saying I want to thank you for you know making the time for us and being his candidate. Open honest because it benefits you know the audience and the people who find themselves in a position that we were fortunate and blessed enough to make it out of. Me If we can help them navigate themselves through their journey. and make it. Absolutely you as as I learned from the listen, this is one of my most quotable. Moments expeditious. Young folks to me. You must teach what has been told. That, you feel you know the prophecy of in evolution slightly okay. Someone teaches you some. That's only part of the evolution that's only part of the prophecy. Whence they teach it to you and you then teach you to sell you pay it forward. When you do that I feel like you know saying that's the completion. As our whole purpose. Absolutely. Now We spoke about you know your willingness you know to. To speak about you know what I'm saying your personal life, how you know on the West sheet that we go through lead to you the loss of a child. And extremely commendable extremely strong. You know what I mean I i. I salute you as well as. As. well as your is willing lady for. You know. Everyone else to share in that moment people who have an ability to relate to though to to to that and that. Keep it to yourself. You know of San Harbor. There's also something else. Right. As another saw. That you get that I love by the way in his like will. I find my girl plays the sheet when I'm in the car and my wife said the Columbine Grandma wife related she she played his sheet. In car, while I'm Ryan with her like she trying to say some on the low end. The song is none of my concern anymore you know what I'm saying. And It seems as though you guys were you seeing at the time when the saw will made? Still, the song. Yeah. That is highly commendable I as extremely mature. Yeah man was a great. Way. School art that it was able to know at least some of that was able to. Through an art. Sure I think that's the best way for it to come through. If come through and lie in a conversation sheet won't even be received the. And it probably won't come. Amazing. So I, think it was the way that you guys did. It did compromise the integrity of either of your positions. Know. And you know you had a chance to let you speak for not just yourself. But you spoke for Niggers in that position. She as she spoke for women in their position initiate with dope. Viruses. Is Honest. Song it wasn't a song where it was like. Yet you gotTa beat a most lyrical in is assigned expressing ourselves. You know and. Arrow. Her album is from the heart you know as mine is to so size cool to. This is her most her biggest album airbags moment go. I'm happy for her to unite after just be doing. So well, I I see some talented man s phenomenon now. Another and I'm I'm pulling from things that come from music. You know what I'm saying because I don't WanNa be a part of no sensationalize just propaganda just trying to. Push it for the purpose of headlines will we do? If if if this question can't benefit a motherfucker who listening to it I don't need to ask. but. In a song song you got with new. You said that you know causes passing. made you can re evaluate allotted the conflicts that you had your life in it pushed you. To main. Of relationship with kindred and the reason that I'm at the reason that I'm even mentioning this. At the keep up a Catholic to sensationalize any kind of propaganda but it's because. So many of the people who look up to you look up look up to catch up us. They own hair. One way of resolving roughly. You dig what I'm saying and our Manila before he died he I. I. Remember Him in an interview saying we have to readjust the way. We respond disrespect we have to readjust the way we respond. To a muffled disagreement with US having an adverse opinion two hours. as it makes us look like a bitch or make you look like. Not speaking, urges make you that's not how was tough. You're not taught to just be like that. You talked to stand your ground right you. Pay Some American. Sheet they again. The American sheet. but the thing is when you made that decision to make that call. I WANNA know. What parts of yourself you had to overcome. To say Yeah I'm GonNa do this and I also WanNa know like what was as much of what the call was like as you can share. and. How your relationship is now I. Mean it's not like. It wasn't a big deal to me because you know this is somebody who have been to my house before I didn't came is charity events before. So somebody who? Knows like we was peers God's. respectful. Each Other. So in in the back of my, it wasn't even know. Nothing to begin with anyway for Real wasn't ob who's kind of like something that as far from Internet or ooh. Faints talking about I'm talking about him in his song or it is free style is like a thing like that that? You know I feel like it didn't apply to me. I can't speak for him. Obviously right. But at any Fatah me like that. But. I knew like man whenever I seem already knows be love like our new let nine time. With winners passed and saw me is when there are things in the back. Or you think he always got time to do his off. Just, because you know that don't mean that that person may not because it has never been communicated right? You know and I obviously I don't even think that was his best out is saying on his mind or anything. Even be Nobel Peace Prize in all I. Don't think the you know his conflict with big show and was at the forefront of his mind. Know Rise it wasn't. It wasn't a real awfully. People who really come from the lives that we come out. That listen. I don't know how deep it goes. It runs relevant to your life but for me if shooting at me Brooke it, I know. If your family and all. You know which it wasn't it was. It was literally nothing like that but. It just happened that I of that I sat next onto punch from CD. We was just talking about other things and and one of the things he brought up at you ever reached out. To K. Dot, I was like Knob. But soon, as soon as he said that it pop back my hey, like really got to do. because. It was something we grow wasn't nothing I D for no lifelock crazing. Shown a mutual respect for each other. That's all right will. Night. It shows the Lai incredible level of alert only. But the only reason I mentioned that is because I lost a lot of is overdone she like that before necessarily hurt should that could have been just communicating with a two minute conversation Abraham saw like Upon Ajay Rue des Man we were still getting them. We weren't Oh, good times and I still feel that she apologized review will I want this We actually look just a light they say and and and we fell out because. We were roommates by he had a one bedroom in our sleeping on the flow my girlfriend at the time who came up my first Chow's mother Ando. Mind you in a position Ami. I'm like and I gotta get Outta here I got. I gotTa make away from for myself for us. His his my he's like. Man My homeboy you know saying. We together doing together and then you know saying this shit is. Like. He saw it as this is perfect I saw it. On the flo how to Fuck Shit GonNA. Be Perfect. So I got a house. Alison my warehouse and I told him she F- In a move up. Move Out I. Got Myself Career. He were and we will hustling together like putting in and got now getting pets. I mean getting packs together and bussing them down the hill, his piece Al's my peace will come back together. I mean. So that would and Basically when I told him that he took the pack that we came up on and he kinda like cooked it. And And I knew he did it. Now. Like damn brother how you go rob. Get what you know what? Fuck you pay and I went on and moved on normal. In any of a sense. And then he died. Anywhere my real partner and the money in the amount of money that was in question might have been. Sending five hundred dollars Shit light it. You know what I mean which was you know at a tire? motherfucking money. But in the grand scheme of things thinking about a relationship that you had memories, you created in Cadillac Department play in your life. said. If dollars like day if I'm looking back I should I need this they nothing Not just wasn't like that it was a lot of relationships. You know that I've mended like best friends growing up we fell out by afternoon pass it just inspire me. Not Say Time for granted even like I ain't even have a problem with. His life. My Song. Why came up with? My brother like a Lotta my videos. Is Now it is. Dave we had not talked for years overdue some minor business. Where we weren't seeing eye so You know him a lot lot of my friends like that like growing up. So. I realize ain't for you know I might even trump with his out there. But this just for the point of it, all I remember even with call me at the beginning of the year job call he come through here. Look what happened? Ever know fool all is never know what's going to happen. Right to have something on your mind. It's like I just wanted to inspire people to do that Moreno not way on anything like. That if you have anything on your mind anything to clear up by clear it up and move forward because is going to do a lot for you to sure I. Think I have a situation like that man I have a situation like that when my parliament. With Wayne. Wayne and we yeah. We came up together and all that shit you know saying like. Way We. Thought Wayne. Tunechi. Got which means I may just a little. You know what I mean like she was overly critical of him at a time when he got down with speaking candlelight. He says. I disagree with I had I made disagreement publicly. Disagreement public. And You know what I'm saying and you know that Kinda. Altered our relationship although I stand by the principle in you know he was wrong. And it needs to be addressed pay over the forum in which at chose to address it even though I tried to do it privately. Privately like three full-time before. But either way go the she happened and you know what I'm saying I just feel you know at some point You know like you just said. When I run into, it'd be cool. But you know. One of those, you know took no mate no extra in reaching that. But I. Like what you know. As legislation. Much amazing I've work. Together it's like. This for the. For y'all's sure. Personal, relationship just because y'all just tool. extrordinary. Voices Y'all just needs a we need to unify you know. Be. On s on my album, the Friday night cyber. Lot of the thing I was going to get. I was to get to the Friday night. Cypher we're every motherfucker from Detroit going home. Yeah. Who's idea did whose idea was that? It was my idea because like I said the frighten side for was something that I did when I was sixteen years old that show and it really help mommy into why am now you know at least some way so. Musically, and I was like man. One of the things when I was working on myself like i. told You I went through a period rob really at muscle? I. Right. Who Stays I was doing when I was meditating taking time was like going back to like okay. Why was I so passionate because I feel like I lost passionate. Wild Asleep on a floor in a studio. Why was I going to that radio station every Friday after school and it was like just going back in those moments. Gave me a library sparked passion is like I retire back to my roots who has an elevator version of myself. So it made me think of Friday night Cypher Saws like do right and I signed for saw. Everybody up got gotTA studio at everybody. But at the last minute I'm like them owing your who and I send it to race and as I did you send it to Marshall but I am on my on my album before this one. On the album before I'm like damn I ain't Marcia because you want to ask for two favors in a row. I'm like it. Asked me Rice I'm like? Yes I said it's on. was like sentences in his. Senate the end. Info quality he wanted to just show that he was like. You know he part of the city tool and we all are. So a digital song is at ten minutes. Amish. Dope all the way through over. Dope all the way through. Forty today you got see grizzly cash saw imminent afoot with. Payroll cash. Pay Payroll you got doboy. Yeah yet. So many different motherfuckers. I mean the The every everybody from the scene on air, but it was cut a lot of. People cut this allowed motherfuckers though yeah. Because I it had us do be listened. I can't handle fifteen minutes. Yeah my my but ten minutes I think you know. Ten minutes is enough. Tim Isn't enough. To write these thought I was the head hit boy. Boy. Through in like. No album because the executive producer album though. He didn't own shit lately. Yeah even Orange Shit and he really he really was emerged as I was in dedicated I mean. Friday night Cypher to intro like. Of Body language, these are Saunas died. You know the answer he may four different beast desam. Five different beach rewriting sauce Yankee. told him nominees amy like it and he came to. Argue. With. Each. Still. Doing And I'm like that, Bro this On his album rewrote five times today I gotta I wanted. I think audit time out of the tension out an energy that you put into it. It paid off and and it delivered you know to to the fans delivered to your audience to your core. It delivered what they had been expecting. You know what I'm saying because Detroit one was you know she was classic? Yeah. I mean I really not real. Spielberg she candlelight. Pave the way open the door for a new. ERA OF DETROIT. You see what I'm saying tell. You you had underground. You know what I'm saying you. Trying to make it. But you would defer St-. Lack. Mainstream. Artists you know what I'm saying in Detroit. Unanimity like so I think that she Means A lot. It means a lot to a city. It means a lot to generation means led to a coach so. I mean and there for you to do that song for you to be the one to do this on that shit yet because EMINEM could've did this onto. And it may not have meant as much. You know what I'm saying because maybe because of how long he has been in position, but for you to do this all right now in this moment taking advantage of the opportunity. I think it meant so much to to so many. So I I salute you and Comedians, you own it. Is So is over, we appreciate your time I have one last question in the name of Detroit. Coney Island or Louis Deli. It depends what you've all for those daily came through in a clutch. Every neighborhood who got a coney island. So is like I felt Conan like waffle house. In. Now. The is like three locations. So to me, I grew up on the same street as lose daily like. Daily was like. That Corby. Hey Man. Thank you. Appreciate the time man. Thank you so much. Now, owner for your contributions to the coach of man before you know your consideration and just you know what I'm saying your candor. And you know we have a tradition here. Expeditiously tradition is to have a word of the week. So the word, we usually comes from the conversation something that. the artists or the gas represents. Days gave me a word of the day when he would driving to school success. So listen in the spirit of that. The word of the week is rumination. Rumination a deep or considered thought about something. I. So now what I do I use it in a sentence just so people who listening, they can go off and you know at work or actually ain't going nowhere now she. Going to be mobile land doing over they go you. There were like they are known as they whole life. What about how? Okay. Events that occurred. To me tremendously in had me the room a nation you know what I love this. So that's the sentence. Say a man to come in to clinch man you real motherfucking prohibition, man. You, his gentleman was raised by scholars. Diego saying like I I appreciate that because I think that you know more examples of this type of of a reputation of our people need to be at the forefront mainstream media. So I appreciate you for who you are. Wrong but you don't. You don't compromise. The skillset. Just to be intelligent or just be cool just to be relevant, you make sure that the. Integrity of your art forms maintain man on the level, and that's my whole near and dear to my my heart so I appreciate it. Man Thank you God. Bless you. Should we overdo we overdo already an listen man? I can't wait shoot me anything I'm Ted a month ago immediately and Shuster Shit and welcome you the opportunity. You know what? I mean J. J. Email phone number, whatever I'm GONNA SHOOT HIM OFF A. Man and we're GONNA to get it done eight-man love and respect. You for all you do. I mean, say my best. Man Thank you I`ll Send my best to your family old lady, your Mama and everybody else man who? 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Getting to the Facts w/ TLC

expediTIously with Tip "T.I." Harris

1:27:10 hr | 7 months ago

Getting to the Facts w/ TLC

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Davies was chairman was the chairman of to records right Pointing to the other basis point. AIRSU- says face old was really Taylor okay. Who had our money they may. One hundred and seventy, five, million dollars, and we only got fifty thousand a piece that we want to know where money was. We asked the club TLC and I was like, Hey, ones challenge from say hi, Girls Tema. AM. Leases cousin. took the jury yet the music out of TLC. have. Some saying you gotTa GonNa Love. His all meeting said you gotta go. We liked the whole building down basically and they call the. Unit show the pistols though digital. I'm a diverse individuals. Out. Here. What is Your Family Mitch? Is. Late I'm all loving. All Beach Oh a kiss showgirl in took. Kinsey Andy and I show up leader March owner. Is All real real. This is expeditiously I am too. Now the following experience is not a test conversations and stores experienced on this podcast meant to be an expression of purpose and truth this show. Properly, a title expeditiously is a free exchange of ideas and opinions no judgment no preconceived beliefs no fear you're encouraged to share your thoughts and only question as long as it's done spit Nass through true love and respect for others that we would change the world and speak truth to power one show at a time. Now, without further do this is expedite. I'm tips I here's. Actually addition hold. Has. Now I guess today man this is extremely extremely important such a pleasure for me. Growing up in the nineties coming from Atlanta Oh. Man these are true eight time use it. Legend's I'm talking about pioneers to pave the way kick down doors for all of us who you know reap the benefits of Atlanta coach right now, if you own the WHO I'm talking about talking about Tlc I now see consists of the phenomenal. Tionne. T balls Watkins. The the the the late. Great. Unforgettable Lisa left eye Lopez and the incomparable zonda Chilli Thomas Okay This group was originally fall in Atlanta straight ATLANTA. You know what? I'm saying nineteen one they've scored nine count on nine top ten hits on the billboard hot one hundred including four number ones for more platinum albums and a nineteen ninety four title craze as a coup that went damning candlelight Jay counter changed the WAY PEOPLE CONSIDER R&B, and he'll PA if us together now today they are the best selling female group unfortunately I cut. Short because I could talk about the. Debut. Let's get to the the episode. What's going on latest doing Thank you thank you. Lou Queens. First of all man I. Miss and someone who has you know benefited from Atlanta 'cause you just changed my life. You know what I'm saying I came from a little boy. Brian. Married my by selling dope on bank here to. The chango this out, and you guys had a hand in you know kicking the door down and paving the way. So people like me you know saying. I salute child and appreciate job. Thank you. All right but listen so. I. I have my line of questions and I was GonNa Start I was GONNA go about the interview survey but I think that you have something that you want to address I have no idea what it is but I'm GonNa let you I'm GonNa give you the floor. Worst granting your deals. was funny is it's hard to grind my gears because in twenty eight I'm leaving in the business almost twenty eight years and never had a rebuttal clear up I just never say anything. The reason and explain why say what? I'm say I the reason why it's important for me to say something. as a woman who? In a black walnut actually who is industry Both of us to not sleep are way up suck our way. And for me to do it off, you know my talent. We have certain accurately than you know things that you really worked hard for you can't let people take that from you. You know what I mean. The other day when jd was on your show and the reason I have to say it here because it was said here. Okay something some things were very inaccurate. They will render revisionist histories. That's when you know somebody changes. What happened in the past and makes different Anything about my story is I. Have True Facts are facts you know what I mean? On. One thing about me is when you do something for me always, if you watch any interview throughout the years, I always say the same thing I came out with a book a couple of years ago and I gave jd products for what he really did. So what he really did was When We came out when I first met Lisa. We were in second nature yeah. Grew. Apart, Jody Dot, group, Rico, waiting, and Bert. This is way before Jaydee. Came to my house 'cause the girl named Trista wanted to start a group. At least stayed out in the car. And I have met left eye yet she was not at the time but I haven't met her yet. So Rico kept talking about this girl this girl this you gotta see you're saying dance. So when he came in I, did my at L. thing must play. Guy I WANNA GIVE WAY And another song that inspired me was Jodi widely, which came out in nineteen eighty seven. And that was the Song Kostelic thrills at axing that. Song. is how I figured. I can Sing D. You know what? I mean because she was A. Ni- win on hold in June made you know what I'm saying? Okay. I was rocking the loan. At seventeen years. That's the misconception I was a big misconception. Right, Internet, like he looked at me and said Ou this blonde girl I'm GonNa make her sounding the reason he knew. Because the night in the audition. In. Every way show. Right and I sang in the audition I was singing in. Thank God. That was the only song. What was his words that I can mimic? To you know say right cause. Any anybody who writes you're GonNa Mimic that because that's how the military go. But what he really did do, which is great. I was afraid to just do that as my thing after the audition in introduced me to JD. I was sitting. Auditions before. And that's how. To him. He forgot that he heard me singing that way. Put me on Crockett Demos. Because he heard me doing already. Okay then. He is the one. What he did was he made me feel comfortable because I wasn't uncomfortable because back then in the nineties and when I met Rozonda and she became Chile. Lisa. Or anything but chilly no, that's all we would ever talked about. He he did gave me my first demo so I can sing. What I was already rocketed myself. I didn't have the top guy jody wildly this time you have my own song. It wouldn't is back in the nineties being gay was like really looked upon as bad and you know not that I'm homophobic but I didn't WanNa. Have a fight that wasn't mine. So I remember after jd was like man you should make that Joe thing because you'd be killing and like. You know I was scared to do it for the masses because I was blank. Enough to winning my you know in my own auditions and all that. But I'm kind of nervous. I, don't know people are like you learn who think I'm gay too and I don't want to have a fight that ain't. Support for expeditiously comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday, but rocket mortgage home is still all about you. If you need mortgage assistance, their team is available twenty four seven to answer questions in office solutions from their home to yours. The team in rocket mortgage is with you visit rocket mortgage dot com slash ti he to learn more call for cost information and. Conditions equal housing lender license, fifty states, and mls consumer access dot Org number thirty thirty. What is it about the low note that makes that gives you gave the what would say you know what I'm saying that people would get the they would take that away. You know was funny. Okay. So when I will talk to my mom and she said, don't fuck with nobody thinks and I was like you right though when I came out. Had Great Keeper Yours and I'm like I came out and thought I was gay. Dressed. What people just think you know what I mean people just assume if they don't have anything explained to all of the they jump to their own conclusions. It's you know. We're talking the young who didn't know any better who is just pressing. Says she was intimidated by it yeah. Because that wasn't hard was living. So back in, you know I didn't WanNA fight a fight that wasn't the mind. But then when I went home and I told my mom Jemaine said he was like you rock that so good you should keep that your thing. Maybe. He's right in my mom's they don't hear nobody says. It don't matter where nobody knows as long as you ain't got no and I was like. Let me go kill the Shit. So the great thing that came out of it is he really did make me feel confident in doing something I was already don't let let the the moral of the story here is it wasn't his idea it wasn't that he was singing like this already and he was like aiming to give you this Monte do this like me and have this diaz sound that's. True that is one hundred percent. I'm not sure the. You Up to this issue of through there where you heard it well. Not, great. Jd, you, ask trump. Because he's always like my brother and I hate that I even have to come in, explain it because I don't like. Shit but the thing is that's why I told you in the beginning as a woman you can take that from me because that's shit and this industry matters I mean listen to be honest with you. You all were part of a fundamental ecosystem right and you probably fed off of each other so much that was probably so much that you guys did for him with the you know that it was probably so much that everybody just kind of contributed to each other's development and you know. You're right I understand her plight. I understand her plight I just don't think our I get like malicious intent from from jd you know it could have been a little forgetful but that's what we here for to make corrections and to support each other with the truth I'm in full support of it but the thing. So that's like if somebody came up to you. What I'm doing is I'm giving him as Bras I can to. Create get together something great. Came out of that and he gave me something. That I was, you know he gave me the confidence to just ended up being for a and also he gave me my first song. He really did that but I am giving you. What you really did that's like I say you know I creating a tip I wrote I west down. So. Basically, what you're saying is what you say anti Jd. Found a way to take what you already had been showing the world of been showing to represent yourself and file by a way to make you feel absolutely confident about you know making net your thing. It is something that he said this is my ideal you should do this. And I've always in every interview. I. Even put it in my book. I've always said thank you for that because I really did appreciate it. So I'll just keep it as it really is is all I'm saying don't. Create you are in. Shitty. Was Copying me and. You say, he say he created. You know. Thank you. Say IT DID DID IT How. Do you say he basically I don't remember I need to go back elite. Little brother. I do remember. I, do recall him saying do recall him saying after you know in the face became the excuse me at the TLC science the face and became the monumental superstars that you that you guys are that you guys. Always you know reach back and just always included him whenever possible as far as you know working with him and kept him in the loophole which our doing. So he never really felt left out even though he did say that you guys were working with him I before a chilly Cain when it was. Chelsea at that time it was. Nature. But he said after you guys became TLC. After you guys became TLC that you always reach back and you always acknowledged and you always show you know show support for him and his art he did like you know show his appreciation and and and his thanks and graciousness for that too I don't want I. Don't want it to be West added. What you know, what I'm saying trying to balance the scale what balance the scale It's not about being matt is. The Center is, but that's what we do here. The for dishes. That's what we do. We set the record straight you understand me. What is it that we don't know I say well, I said. No. I love him. That's why always we always included him and I always said man thank you for that. 'cause you gave me that you know what I'm saying. So I'm just always for keeping as it t I is 'cause it's funny. How People Stories Najah town a lot of people are have changed over the years and I'm like, gross. But that part, you can't take from me and I can't have it. So okay. I'll write a right a right. So now that is the real deal. You know what I'm saying is been straight they they strayed shit at. US they got that Shit. So so straight you. Don't stray. And I have. I have an incredible amount of love respect and appreciation for you guys for J. D. for Rico, wait for out care for for the face La baby face KP. Like all good Mr all you guys man all of you Ya'll pave the way for for the Shit we doing right now and you know what I'm saying is is easy to you know the the the look at how things offer you today and not look back and you know take notice of what had to happen for this to be possible for you to make it here and united never wanted to be one of those people. So I just wanted to salute y'all and I need you know let's have peace in the kingdom now peace within the kingdom. Of Youtube. I was telling him how watch him in automobiles out watch. 'cause my Momma has, seen. When he was manage Fox and sleep. Like artist of his I love what you doing man I appreciate it. Thank you and I appreciate you taking the time. To come do the show man I know both of you have so much going on right now I know Tian you have your own CD t ale cbd what you what you up to what you up to what you got going on. Well, we have a lot of TV stuff that were working behind the scenes are going on that we're working on. Sadly We we supposed. You're supposed to beware. Tours, and just you know everything has gotten postponed to next next. prayerfully. Get the vaccine cylinder something his was she will be easy with the vaccine now because we don't know what soon net stuff. Flu Shot every year I don't play so I'm not opposed to and. Big exiled a kid. I used to get the flu every on as a child and it was bad. Fever. It was crazy and so before the vaccination stuff you know my big Mama told my mom to give me a eastbound. Cod Liver Oil, do you remember that nasty stuff All every morning in how But now I guess years Yup I did it. So I'm not upset about vaccine is just adeline Carson lie when they first come up with. A with a while. Me I. Think this this this is fair statement. I take my chances with the virus. Is that you take your case providing yeah. Yeah. I'd other deal with the virus vaccine. 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When la invading face came to rehearsals I walked up to the now say insane when he was saying so. Much as you know, and then I met the girls later it was like a just a few days later met them and. As, you know Lisa was really friendly. Not so much he wasn't. Better, make sure you got straight 'cause she will call in here and straighten it out. Now if she sees, she will come back in and say. The past the same over and over and over again because it's true you know and so. Yes she was not that I care like I gave her a hug anyway. and. It was funny because the sistership friendship part just developed over time but like that Kimsey was instant. Rounding it really was. Funny Chemistry is the funny thing either you have. I'm telling him about when I first met you guys. Just said you would mean. y'All firm it. Wa Yes, you are friendly now member. Cherkesov was meaning that was our ain't. GonNa. Ask for. Dot with did I CARE No. My Gosh she kept hugging me and kissing me as a loved you. Right. Loved you right out to didn't you? Go. What is What is hurt? She may pay attention by. Okay. I I. Missed you. The evil now's I eve I just didn't take. Take chicks quicken. Does you know like I? I used to have what a lot of you know boundaries are important. I find out Bosnia justices is the same man. Man, what you mean by that. Were you say? Not. Talking. Always talking the. Clown, the wall is. A gym or something. He's just guys guys how much not more than two mostly by sports. No that's not true. Sports sports in school classic cars and now. Five hip hop artists. Off Same Hoes. Man Listen Don't nobody seat Ryan listed it to till man like this. You know that's so. There so I m going know what I'm saying like you know. This Do Men and women. You got men and women serve people they keep their stuff silent. You know what I'm sayin' and others others they go they. They can't wait to tell the world yummy. All guys but I'm saying they always. Being like all women just gossip talk all the time like, no, that's not true. You know. People think. Or man you have the right. Just you know are people are afraid down on it doesn't matter what the sex is. That's right. It don't matter is not gender specific do the mother human beings just fucking throw it off including myself I don't want to examine exemplify me you know but but as far to talk like that, obviously didn't stop you guys you have a I mean broke every record that you know can be conceivably broken in the nineties as far as this is concerned like, what was it that allowed you guys continue to recreate your sales from album to album album and how difficult was that it was hard in the beginning because After we did on TLC too if you'd have to figure out why people like I? Can do it again but do it better and well, we did figure out his like every time we had a hook. dance that goes with it. So it starts. Back. Waterfalls. Are Subject matter. We talked about Israel whether it's a relationship between mother in kids. Sheltering friends what about everything that you basically have written or talked about it came from a real situation, right? Or. Not It was a real thing Ohio, the something that you the went through or witnessed. Yeah. I mean, there's a certain level of authenticity is always been associated with you guys. You're brandon. I mean you and then you you you. You always maintain a lane of Yo. You dig what I'm saying and now whose idea was it for for for Lisa to be the designated rap and the anybody else light try to kick bars in the group. The wrapper. Does the first. Album Marley. I do know marver where another legend. So we. Must like all y'all should wrap. Allows shaking him out booth thousand. Like a man. What we like me now. I know. I know that was getting out like. They they come to. Florida me. So proud and my rap I would suicide in Lisa. told me. She was so proud of me. So I was like, yes. came out. So, you know that would that's the only time that's ever happened. But our everybody Kinda came in the group already doing their own thing you know Lisa does seem to me. Rapping that was her thing so that that was the. Special one of the special things about us together the Adam said, you have three on solo artists in a brute together. You know what? Saying like I can't say Tian part she don't. She can't see my part. We do lace Lisa's rapids. She did them you hard. We all respect, each other's lanes, and we understand the formula in in our group in unfortunately a lot of people whether the group or solo artist don't really understand who they are as artists. You know because you can put us in the studio with any producer. It doesn't matter. It can be a country song it can be hard. It doesn't matter what it is. Will we know off formula so is always See record sound like Tlc. I mean you know you guys have always maintained. You know what? I'm saying, your own significant standing within the group you know saying individually and collectively you all just you hell Joan and it never seen like. There was any. Envious somebody who wanted you know another person everybody's saying kind of comfortable in confident in. You know in positions. That's dope. Oh. Okay I. Don't I don't care for pebbles at all don't have no respect for it at all but. If somebody did something and one of the things that she did that was good for me. Is when we had our songs you know and I was thinking indeed, I had to figure out what kind of dance moves a swag with with it. You know what kind of attitude or dance go with how I sound because if I had on hills and was too girly, you know started already Chris Tomboy? So she let me in a rehearsal hall by myself a week and she was like. This but that really helped me because it really made me match my dance style in my performance style to how I was saying you know what I mean. I mean all the time I thought. You saw local you smoking. I thought you I thought you know saying I thought you were blowing gas. I thought you were blowing Gad that why you head low art do you know saying thought you had the smokey voice you go to Brazil. Until we are squares and I remember one time. His okay. We had these nicknames that are days. Our first set of dances gave us from the first album. They call me grandma chilly. Mighty. We're twin or twenty, one years of age. So I'm. Eating, Lisa was Okay Tian was not burial. Grandma's sister. t sound like a whole `nother group altogether. It was so funny because. You know we really don't drink. Through the years I've definitely try to drink or whatever I just don't like it. Allergic to just. Straight. Mueller. Okay call in my right mind. You know what? I'm saying always always no naturally off anyway I don't mean. All together. No matter we go take turns being crazy is cool. We got accept each other who we are man you know what I mean so. It was some awards something when we were done like always go back to the hotel non good night and I. was like. Barn. It don't get no trouble so they're not gonNA. My door in the middle of the night is Tian Lisa Tian went into the corner she was crying she was dropped for the first time. Was Mad because some was missed were Bobby Brown's dancers hit writer and I. You, know I find a lot in the first time the every game alcohol I got. So what from the floor and I said that night I'll hurt because I never try I never. Oh. added. To was this. Press Seco. Second Album actually Christ Setsuko Leon Bobby Brown. We had the dancers just like as because start because I say somebody wanted to dancers dating she you dated who? Nobody's say nobody I'd say L. MAKE Up Land. So why a while? To get along with you all of a sudden what would what would the smoke about you? What you do. They thought we was little. So I guess. They could try I guess. Honestly let me tell you something. We are not to be messed with and I'm not just saying that. seriously. Amir sweet as we love in our really are, but we are really like we'll fight she. Especially when it comes to. Revamp protective of each other you know what I'm saying. Are, you looking ahead to win season special event? No you'll be taking pictures I'm sure we can't the average treatment length to just six months and your star senior results way before it in I mean well, you know I guess none of us are going to be moving as much as we used to. So you take your time to get together try and get your teeth straight man. So you ready to take the first four straight teeth for a limited time you can get started was sending fired alexander by User Code Ti, candy? C. O. DOT COM slash. There's candidates co dot com slash tear US colty episode if our show is Candy Co dot com slash. Tear Code Tear. You have been embraced as supported and will forever be protected by a community. You know what? I'm saying the the the community that you pave the way for will always be here to support you embrace you and insulate you protection. You know what I mean. But let's talk about old Atlanta. Tell me how do you think the city and the same from the impact who you became you know what I mean and what is it about this city about our city to just breeze superstars. From me, Atlanta like you know especially moving to. South. Real young so I grew up here. I mean you know so. Dividing you know divine Stevens. Hand I ended up going to high school together. So like we go way back any amok West ethridge. With a high school together he wrote Waterfall Rico way family outcast. Auditing. So you would trust city. Yeah. I related atrocity 'cause I got. Every other little. You bad as hail t I. Wish You. Wrapped tight. They learn laid out this. Show I got kicked out at a holiday Camp China school system in s how divine. So that's how we ended up together. So this started way before. But I used to jelly beans and I used to dance dance and ice the WANNA battle with the guys. But they was always like you can't 'cause girls can't sell tractors every day and finally got to dance with the guys. Did you get you get? They're saying about? Did you ever get over Hell Yeah? But you know what? Empty saying, everybody it was established dancing and a whole vibe that Atlanta had that. No other. or or? Even Away Utah we taught ours mine the way you speak in where we moved the way we dance all by Israel you mentioned a little bit about Jelly beans and you know a lot of people don't know this. But ATL my I fail that that that you will gracious enough to allow me to be in TI. See A lot of people don't know that that was that was a loosely based off of you and Dallas Austin's life, right? So you are. The true new. Well Yeah. You choose new. So Look No. So was it that you were rich and you will try to fit in who it for real or would that just you know what I'm saying some fictional like how much of it was true. They was mixing up by after I was in TLC. May some money like with my Brooklyn? So you know they they they put my story in like the twins who was getting on the back of the car. That's how me and my friends you get out my mom's car. Name. Tasha they named her gail now my mom's name so they. Story throughout but now living headline and the low. Amen Zone, FO- Swat area southwest Atlanta man that's. As good. It's good. Yes Sleepy Brown. We made a pet whoever made it. I put the other one also when I made it up put on my boys on Regal on made. Katie I. Made it like and I put all my people don't like I. said You know. What I mean. So what was it about like this game and so does that mean since you in a true new and I guess Rashaad was supposed to be Dallas would that did that mean? The child has some kind of interest at one time. So that was all fictional to that was national tool like when we was fourteen. Dollars talked on the phone with every day. But never liked that. Best friend, we never kissed Rodin, my beautiful group member who became my sister. Ended up. You know what? Not that's that. Damn show did. You know that means. So. Yes. So Dallas. So you ended up, we're showing. Okay. Man will is a phenomenal is a phenomenal story and I'm I in my career and ticket on a trajectory that couldn't anticipate it. So you know I. Appreciate You guys You Dallas. Appreciate Will Smith who was the producer net for telling the studio that he wouldn't make it if I win knit Appreciate Chris Rob's appreciate out of chaos Lauren, London Jackie loan the twins. You know what I mean, Jason we will We get every Roth. Yeah. Miami I mean it it is uncanny. Just, how culturally relevant that field still heels and how much it was like a breakfast club. But like a stand by me for a generation, you know what I'm saying. and and that was your was that your first like film as a producer. Yes. It wasn't an Chilean I is that. Are Our movie. Crazy sexy cool TLC story. Okay. Where was that? That was old with lifetime it was VH1 but Viacom is who we did the deal with. So occur everybody under that umbrella of Viacom plays are A. Movie You know. For the next. Thirty. Notes. So. So crazy sexy cool to see store was your that your second project that you and and Chili worked on together as executive producer that was own Viacom. Vh One. How did you? How would you happy with it when it came out? I mean we were involved on day one. Arbor? when we this was like first album and we were at a photo shoot and this is this is when a hit yet me. All. I was mad at them. That they'd I I didn't I didn't. Know you know sister. So out of house manage him I didn't want to touch at least. So you went from hugging on everybody did now you won't touch you. See like don't touch. So. Anyway you remember pros from take a bonus, Usta sub you know the pros can't look like. Yeah they look like Polaroid's. I remember. Looking at the pitchers and that's when I saw the Kim's John was like. My I said if you look at this, you can't tell that I'm mad at them. All you see is some magic. Bass what I saw. So as time went on, always told them and I don't know they believe you. Said, some be a movie about us when they tell? TENDS GONNA be Bovi. So moving forward when what's Love got to do with the came out research in to see that and she and I were to see the five heartbeats. and. I said, whoever wrote this? The Tina Turner's movie I said has to write our story. Know when it happened. So when the opportunity presented itself, I was in the car and then he said we have the writer and I'm like, okay, who's Ryan said clean your house like who is that? He says she wrote was loved to do it. It almost lost in my mind about his Lisa has passed away and I believe it I cannot believe the person that I said years ago ended up being the person that wrote the SPEC out with us but you did not see you didn't you didn't search her out. You didn't you didn't send you know people to tell people that was the writer you won't it for. So it just serendipitous earlier happened. Universe it was meant to be the law of attraction. Involved with the auditions we were involved everything. Everyday. Big Board said was a during the scenes Lisa Racer. Pastor. All that. So we don't. We don't want to be on set for that. Long. Yeah and will be came out. You know awesome it broke record record. About that, how are you feeling right now? No. Really interesting question. Are you a little anxious? Maybe a little stressed out I mean you have used to be like now. Well, let me tell you some. 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But the one time I actually got a chance to candlelight spin a little more time around her was under Danielle Jones video shoot. Yeah. Yes. That was like my first video I. First Time to be around people who were like of the it live from the industry I was like kind of getting myself acclimated in you know in the face family and she would just always so cool and laid back like you know what I'm saying like shall man it. Thank you. You know what I mean and that. Translated through the music. You D. But. We talk about life I. We can't forget now all of the health and wellness and the being mindful the by which you put in your body and dot the CB, and she was only net wave. Decades ago. Yeah Up. She. Evolved to that, you know place in her life I remember many times anytime. We would go out identified as I ask second album. And Lisa, will order two separate meals and eat mall she will eat you order. Order one with like a super. Bowl. So, it's like shrimp and potatoes and a vegetable, an issue or a stay with Bromley word on. French. Fries the blading. All that is she put it. Say. All. Really bid, but it was straight back down, but she not live one. Can do it. Over again. But. You know what else is funny like her on. Your wishes Andrei Like. Our fast. You have like twenty different entrees and she will eat them all and they will be all spread out on the bay like. People I knew. greediest. greediest. down. Yeah. Yeah all yeah. Acting is angry one thing I think that everyone in the in the generation in that time period like watch you guys revolutionized music and we also watch you like overcome adversity and overcome your struggles individually and as a group Like what was there to be said? The first time you saw Lisa after you know that the burning house incident. By as a group like, of course, you support like what was the the Energy we just wanted to make sure she was okay. Honestly, that wasn't the first time I shoot. Just, the first time. I everybody heard about it. Of Women, is that going for the issue? Of Women in I'm talking from my mom'll to my. Tease and my grandma, my cousins, my wife, my daughter. Allowed of women ain't going for this. What did you say? I said Lisa was feeling. She was still Atlanta's though. Get all the way in. But what happened is the first time he didn't buy her some Well, they got arguing. Thousand Animals. Animal Agenda in the bathtub in burnt them, and so when they replaced the TUB, it wasn't. It was ceramic It wasn't the same kind of you know solid seeing Mitte. will hit by her a pair four and a half shoes. About Fifty Nikes now weren't there for her associate through all the sneakers in the TUB and let them. was is the whole bathroom igniting Caesar. is on the house down. That's what I always tell people it really was. She didn't want to burn the shoe. She just wanted to burn up. Because you wrote a letter from the bill into the floor around on the red lipstick does she want him to read? You just could never read it does she wanted she didn't want house burned down to will you take a ladder? The ladder from the top of the ceiling all the way down to the floor you all somebody to see that little. Then you want to say it but limited Belinda just say this and to to each his on whatever but I can speak for. A little bit about the relationship by Tian Cancer we were in it. You know what? I mean he was a very unhealthy relationship. You know certain things happen should not have happened. And you know what I mean so. It's that that that toxic stuff is not good. So we look what happened at the whole whole House I. Don't know about which you know I don't know what you know and I know I I'm just saying putting myself in the same shoes like. I could see to me burning the house down and I'd be like man I'll say she but you know what? Yeah even. People couldn't understand I mean even if she burnt the house down, he went on TV and said, he was gonNA support. Ernie still loved her absolutely. Right. So I mean if he is not mad at. The world was when we went to the hotel to sitting her, we just hugged her wanted her to be okay you know what I mean You know she was bleeding she her nails were coming up. She was bruised up. You know I remember dressing her for court. Chimpanzees. I mean would you say she was bruised and I had happened got gotten a physical altercation and then his friends was like throwing rocks at her car and you know get when they should've stayed out of it. I'm sure under you know from would've wanted to address that and check for himself. As a little but when he? went out with her friends and she was trying to stay out to make him jealous. But when she got home in the middle of the morning, he still wasn't there yet. So when he did get home, it just became a big old fight its own when we got to the hotel, you know the the world is looking for her you know like Oj. The only reason we came off the CNN we was on the news every day. OJ. was driving down the street on the Bronco You I'm saying. It was all TLC burn of house always like everybody likes. She did it. So we all did it. Nike. Adidas. Everybody. by We'd lost our endorsements don't close. It was crazy. Dan? TLC. Good. Girls to outlaws. That's bad as Bro. Holding Clive Davis hostage. Them hostage was talk about. Haven't. We did hear about that. No. Tell me about it. You have clive, Davis hostage. Yeah. Clyde Davis was the chairman was the chairman of heiress to records, right? Okay. So little. So Lisa, after the whole. Thing was on probation she had to live in the burden center. Yeah S, O. On she met some friends. To say they were just. Friends. And so every night will wanting to the other faces point at air to Airsu- says the face Oh, was he really figured out okay is. Our money. Ma who had our money? They may a hundred and seventy, five, million dollars and we only got fifty thousand piece. So we wanted to know where money was oh so. We went to we flew and drove to New York. and because of us is the reason that you know air to probably on company sue but got security, but we're not. here to us. So what we did, we call it at Alf often the heirs to build an inhale the. Turns out there. were. There they drove the guns up there. Yeah. So. What we did, we talk we. Radical meeting in the limo before everybody did their parcel Nikon I did I did the talking for as you know support on why the sweet when grown you grow? Right. So we asked to see the clouds days TLC ause I hate runs over a talented trump say hi girls tomorrow. We like. We here. So we told the girls that Lisa met that became all of our freeze anything that said TLC I don't care. He's taken off the wall will matter you grab it. And yes, I can put it in the car in Nassau. Limo driver who had a crush on me was the getaway car yeah were. So who messed the man this this we did us. Ok. Started it ultimately. To Lisa ultimately came up with the idea like you know we should do something we're like, yeah, we sat in the hotel room came. To play. With the. Logical to me I mean, yeah. You know me being from Atlanta can understand how you came to this conclusion. Hammer money you say. How much money so were we got up there we went to. Class Office puffy was in there in a meeting leasers. Yeah Roy was in there and leases cousin. took the jury. Yes. But the music onset. TLC. Have some saying you're. GonNa Littering. took his own meeting said you gotta go and he looked like. Oh. Now. When I was like, please come on qualify we just gotTa Talk To. Call it la. Like Yo. Day Math bragging y'all. Okay. So you snatch it out to get. You didn't Australia bodies. Out unless. We say it. So Hey. So the three of us were in their required Roy lot was in there anymore because remember Tian went wrong. He he he wanted Roy to come in there. Roy. Went Back to his office. Yukon said actually get in the. So we had to let the girls two girls that were outside the door we opened the door and say, Hey, but. It was Christ. We liked the whole building down basically and they call the cops unit, show the pistols though did you? The girls. Dead. In. New York City. Wish straps. WAS Okay. Yeah. Yeah won't it this you now how did the Situa-? How did the matter resolve itself after you? So did they say okay, bring bring him they money or Stout Kleiber wall girl. Wild while y'all stuttering should. Finally call the costs. Will ruin went out he called the. Cops came in he and his niches how he said you can work it out. We got a couple of other things too like when we were staying at the four seasons in La that our whole crew dancers, workers, everybody go buy some diamonds from the diamonds. We would just. So, much stuff. Rings from that. Don used to. We? Used to put their makes that. Defoe Atlanta Man. And we went back home. In the press they lied and said, we had all male bodyguards and that you know he changed the whole story it's all. About it. I Guess I Guess Ojeda WanNa be you know in the headlines held up? By. A group of sexy abandoned. Like show boat from our House Party showboat head the girl. Is it. Ended up, giving us the money not enough but they gave us some. You know what I'm saying begin with if you win and winning there the as you got. A real nothing that As most of us have found out the hallway getting into debt is easy but getting out. 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Of all of your hits Man which were meant more and why and I'm you some I'm GonNa give you a McGee some some options. Creep. Waterfalls no scrubs on. Pretty. Man. Off. I hate when people ask me Shit like this asked. That's hard. Because waterfalls is our biggest song today and that put us on the map in a different way like where people took the series. The pop group own personally for me on pretty was because that was the first song that I have ever written NC l.? C.. Gosh man it's Greg. Was the girls ads. You can't do that. I mean I just wanted to know what how do you feel? Miss. Greenwich. 'cause my favorite song is would not be any of those. I love those songs but my favorite song was hats. It back is back. It has the Barrett was on our album. Was it about head to the bet? Okay. So hats it back. Basically, it described us here yards have our. Back. Pants down real best econo girl I am. So and Lisa's wraps need to this day are my favorite. Is Money. May All day long? So I just feel like that song really describes our group in like our style and all that stuff. So deep is crazy and will be released it as a single it was actually Jamie or read. Nicks. Thank you. Okay. Yes doubted. Now of course now I have to ask you you know what I'm saying since. I am married to part of you know the writing team for no S- group. So I must ask how did that particular song come about? Okay. So We were pretty much at the end of recording. And I remember being studio Shakespeare was. Playing news it. Planned songs. I'm totally Tom. I heard the dinner. In I was like that. So. That's all I heard is so he played the rest of our slight. That's that's the one. I don't even remember anything else. He played I just remember that. This is a splash in Moment in their knocked it out in two seconds I took it's funny because there was a couple more customers. I can imagine I know who wrote it on I know the dirty mouse's of the ones that wrote it so accurate imagine. there. I was like, don't know get ready. Because it's funny because the ground much. cussing. My cousin day the me I haven't. Anymore. Like this is just Not your system. which what I thought was great though because originally I think they were going to keep it for themselves. So I commend them to this day for letting us have on because it was a major hit and Chile in concert kids of every age. All generations loved that song and they lose their mind when that one comes on. Him Yeah, it's. It's crazy and it's funny because. Even the way they wrote it with bead and all that kind of stuff. It's like it really makes me mad sometimes because we are women of color were automatically put in the be. Grew you know what I'm saying. incurred. But it's but honestly to me, I mean it's it's everything is aren be is hip hop because Lisa. You know what? I'm saying in pop to you know and so no scrubs. On pretty those pot records it end. You know he's not. Mean it's not that, but they are hat records. You know it has it has a message that speaks to the coach. All of your songs have purpose. Every all your saw with his hat to the bank. The purpose is right giving direction instruction instruction as to what to expect from you guys You know that's respectable. What about your friends telling people to beware of who you share your Persian witness who you call your you know who you call your friends and Of course you got you got waterfalls telling stories of you know the the payrolls of taken volunteering in the community make wrong decision Of course, no scrub is the anthem of don't date. No broke NIGGA. So. All of Yosano purpose and in the nineties like that. Especially for a group like like Tlc like you just mentioned a superstar pop group. To have the be so outspoken ahead, all of your your your songs have messages, even your your coming in the game and your. Your. Your style had messages with condoms on on your on your glasses and. Like. were. You guys that apprehensive you know what I'm saying why was that so important for you guys to have such a strong message in your music instead of being bubblegum pop like you just said. Well. One thing that was is important to us like you know when you look at somebody like Michael Jackson or the best to ever do it. The one thing that I always feel about artists is okay. Take certain things like you know he always tries hard in does his best when he performs but I never believed in just trying to straight out be somebody else we always wanted to be translated was unhappy. You know emulate what we were doing in house something to stand up for ourselves. Content being strong the dances to be strong like you know the healthiest way were known for more than just one thing and that was you know whether it's you want address like us. So and if you're in a position especially as a woman to have a message and have the platform to do so why not do it? I'd rather stand for something than nothing at all you know what I'm saying. Rather be respected and have something a substance to speak for them. Just be an airhead puppet and just doing what everybody else says and being a follower that hot. I get it. There now? Let me ask that in. A is. On like she saying we we have our songs have a lot of. Messages you know positive messages and In his crazy because. It's not preachy. You get the marriage Stan what it is Kinda rod along with us. You know whatever it is and it speaks to you you know what I mean and the thing is they use this say we were business and it's like. We're women were talking from a woman, one view and always encouraged women to you know be secure with themselves, and even when people come up to us into this day, ask us give give give me some advice or something like that is like because honestly nothing is original. How can it be? Say there's nothing new under the Sun. That's what the Bible say around. What we did. Our formula that work with. US. We stuck with that you know and So, we don't go. We don't never went outside of that formula to this day. You know that's not what we do. So we always tell people to truly be yourself and whatever it is that you're doing make your own put a twitter on. I'll do something to it. That makes it your own thing. So every time you do it or somebody somebody's copying you, they'll be like, oh, that's such and such. You got that such and such you know exactly. Now is. Less now. Okay. Now I I I got you know a couple more questions the directly addressed. You know you guys is. position in history. and. I want to know since there's versus you know people are you know what I'm saying we saw Teddy Riley baby phase. They said it Jesus. SCAN. Erica. By Do's candidate we had dream and Sean Garrett who would TLC At Bank best compared to a baseline with for versus twenty heat. Rocco's against who you know a lot of people always look in Paris it. Just. Causes Girl Group but I still don't really think that were you know I think we're all different that we always your TLC and destiny shout or TLC NS WBZ was funny WAS Old. I had named I. Illegally lock it in the pebbles had got it. Did, you say. What voices what happened? They didn't legally lock it in you. Now, you buy your domain and Oh gosh. Trademark, the trademark is. Yeah. So. S. Wvu was originally. Dallas the name of their a that was the name of their group, and then way she let that Chile. act. Okay. So let's take a break from the discussion to talk about some that I know you care about your money. That's right right now, you WANNA have access to your money fast and think about it. There's no reason why you should have to wait all week for your paycheck. That's why I wanNa tell you about our friends over at current current is the next generation of bank their mobile bank big issue paid up the two days faster think. 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Download current and the APPS store or go to current dot com right now, the first ten people use my code ti to sign up for current we'll get ten dollars from yours truly year courtesy the damn trip. So go to current right now and check them out anybody who can get your money fast they should be your friend. So go to current that com don't forget to use the Promo Code till. So parables went I guess behind the backs of its Wvu and you know trademark the name TLC. For you guys to us, and then they had to change their name. Yes, almost Larry, King? Who Whoever get it I? Wanted to beat him to the punch without that was a that was an enormous play. Now, with that being said I think S W v TLC or should I say the battle of the T.? L. Seeds Go on the midday sought the in my opinion. That we never ever liked to be compared to girls the. Females period like every grew that yet that was out before in during us in after. We more saying there's no tissue. We we are competition was against. Boy Bands. Yes. Say maybe TLC against voice men or something. Okay Daddy. Is because man used to go out there and they can pump. Girls. Screen. Police drag. You know little prissy tomboys. No. What we did show you know love to the females because even when we did fanmail, it was like, Christina Aguilera and we wanted to share the love with destiny's child and they came on the tour. So the share our love with the other chicks like you know we all but we never felt we were. In Competition Competition would harder to compete against. So that's why we want to get the guys ibd and all that did you. Go before we did. Was Man will probably be more Makeup on guys. Let's let's go. Oh that a challenge he'll expeditiously. Okay Timberland Swiss. Arrangement. Boys the man you guys have been called that by the the lovely ladies of of on TLC and be careful now because they will lock your ass in office. Forcefully what? Oh. You know what I'm saying be careful about how you respond to this would you have been arrested? As. I'm saying this real quick. Is Funny because like like our last. snoop actually ended up working with us but just so you know. Maybe it's still open to the future Scott to get the Rice Samba we always wanted to work with you. Go I can't. Always. Man Come home and just shoot me to regular was the y'all y'all have the regular you need me to come up with the record. Hey, I wanna do it I. Say let's do it. Movie Soundtrack or something. Yeah whatever we're doing to music and wherever he goes way go you know what I mean let's get the music. I it for show how could I say? No, I don't want to be held at gunpoint his. Wego absolutely, I'm GonNa keep your sweet nice because I don't WanNa see the other side you know what I'm saying. We are J joking play but boy demand we serious. You out. JAKAB. Board metal expeditiously them guys you had twenty four hours. Now. This is another question that relates to your position history. How do you feel about the difference in girl groups in like of today and and how how things are done now do you feel your legacy or the torch that you pay fast I is being is being maintained. Properly like what are you? What are your thoughts on own where the females have taken music today the type of music do It's Okay I'll say this. This is a Latin is not a lot of superstars anymore but there are some good artists out you know. Work. Hard and deserve everything. They, you know other activating and everything they're doing is is is up to par. But the Michael Jackson's. Stuff like that, you don't see that. As real as real. What do you think? How do you how you feel about that Gretchen? I think that I really liked the attitude of women whether they're in a group or you solo artists is kind of the on unapologetic about your year. How. Feel because? That's how we started in us how we still are to this day. embiid confident. You know what I mean about who you are no matter. What anybody says you know also. My hat goes off. You know to the women doing it like that because they should. You know that's who you are. That's how zeal. To represent yourself, you know, clean. Do you be you completely be your authentic self here yet we like women who speak because A. I I don't I wake people or people who are just in just let people walk all over them. I don't like that. So I agree the women who stand up for themselves and they're just going to be who they're going to be. I don't care if it's good or bad. Just at least you're you you real refreshing on the scene Cardi B. and I say. Whether you like it or not she herself and. Fell refreshing she didn't give him with. ME. And I. Loved it yeah. Yup finally finally, somebody who ain't trying to play a role. It perfect or whatever she was herself. I mean Cardi delivery over she. was she silently real life? Yeah I like car. Something I can't thank you guys enough now before we you know rebel is there anything that you guys would like to share or discuss that we haven't Touched on everything you have going on that you WanNa make people aware of. Won't. See. AM, we're working on a see musical and we're excited about it. I mean, the round slowed a lot of things now but you know hopefully, God willing next year we'll pick. a lot of people stay more healthy and We'll get through this. This too shall pass this to share. It will it will. It will Baz yeah. It will pass. Strong and go back to John What we love to do the most you know performing and do what we do best on me. All Avari for all of us and we love what we do. So it'll be happy to get back to that in also. Thank you for. Taking the time my pleasure. Hackett Essay no how could I say? No, they say, Hey, listen. tebas. Chilly. Got Something to see. Say Less. Less this do it no problem anything they won't. how about how about you? Now I just will I really WanNa say that Regardless of what we are here is not here. You know this corona virus and everything they. They really don't understand this stuff you know and snowing it pains me when. I go to places that have to go to for myself, and for my mom, you know like the grocery store you gotTa go to store masked up I got gloves on Akiva distance. Away from other prescribed in the roles. Now had to tell them to get back you know. I did and I'm like on saying but anyway, people come in there cheese they don't have the not even as you don't have to have some professional mass, you can cover up your. Proud of your face with anything. You know, and I just think that people need to really take this seriously like I was telling you take your Oregano oil. elderberry Syrup you say you on that T. Rights Right. You know all those things to help boost your immune immune system as much as you possibly can and just stay save stay prayed up right now. I? Watch your hair to stay at people face they out. Can I ask you that? She was on a serious note. There's people like me who? was born with sickle cell disease and there's no cure. My Mom has cancer right now my daughter has looked and that he also suppressed immune system. So there's people like us. Don't have we can't fight off. Debt. Who who actually can die you know. So you don't respect the rules and follow the rules. You Affect People's lives tremendously. ME. Lou who cannot? Afford to catch not one nothing. Okay. Mom I, WANNA be fighting for my life ever again I've done that enough and being able to make sufficiently. Weak. God Damn. You fifty. WHO Lead at you enough. Yali fifty both of y'all fifty years old man. Okay to okay. Cool. Okay. You flooded out. To get my IRA. It trade sites it on the text until you so welcome said of fifty. Tell. Me that he was gonNA find you. He was right. So listen. So what do you feel about? Like you know the governor of Georgia's you know opening everything government and relieving himself accountability saying that. If you don't you know social distance just because things are open. If you go out there, it's not on him is not on Georgia it's completely on you and. The Governor of Missouri saying concerts may resume. On Monday in Missouri. Where where what do you think about those type those? I'm here in Georgia and years my thing. What did they say even when they were saying to stay in people still go out you know what I mean it people again. I don't care what the governor what anybody says. We all know that this is a virus here that has impacted the entire world. Everything. Now, we all living it. So you have to with that knowledge do do the right lease even say something open a I'm still not going to any other place. Hidden. Beans for that I mean for my house essentials. Don't my mom you know it in stores like that. So I just. People need to be smart. In hanaway. Hamas is in common and notice. I don't know where I have to insecure to have somebody, go get groceries than pay them and I'll wash everything down because I can't afford to go out some. Lady in just like you would stay in a relationship with people say you don't listen to what they say watch the actions the. Doctor Fransico Fifty Corona cases, one night and. You me that people are dying a UC what. A day on what they saying opening up California Friday but I'm not going nowhere I'm here. You probably. Saying. A man and I think that you know definitely a word to the wise. I. Think you know what? I'm saying you raised exit points about people who can't afford to get sick and about how the decisions of a few Kenyan pay you know the lives of so many So I thank you guys that message now here expeditiously, we have a tradition the tradition is. The word of the week. Now, the word we is usually a word that at pulled from the discussion or from. You know the energy of the guests. So I so the word of the week, the word of the week for you guys that dedicate. Pragmatic pragmatic pragmatic. Pragmatic is dealing with things sensibly, and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations pragmatic and now do is I'll use it at a sentence. So the people who listen can go off, use it they self in that light you know they know that the whole life giving me or you guys no credit at all but that's all right. We'll do it expeditiously mayors teachable moment. Okay. Despite chilies pragmatic demeanor TLC. Has A to nationless streak of Gangsta Shit in them Make no mistake. Be Wear. And then here's the sentence did I dedicated and the word dedicated to you guys man? again, thank you all. Bet You for for your contributions to the coach man for paving the way for people like me and others who benefit from Atlanta coach in the music scene Thank you for being for being trailblazers and pioneers, and thank you for joining us here and doing expeditiously I appreciate that that was an. And give the family of love her by. That time. We're. Number respect. Okay. See So. We're GONNA start we don't work on the music expeditiously Miss Guessing this I knew my show. Would now be available on spotify and is free if you are listening to music or spotify now you can listen to the kids in the same place. Thanks for listening to expeditiously with me. CIP Don't forget to subscribe at. Apple podcasts and podcast one and rape and Youth League. Expeditiously produced, engineered and edited by Casey rose.

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Brian Grazer- 195 Emmys Later

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Brian Grazer- 195 Emmys Later

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Well, let's His work includes a beautiful. Twenty Four. Apollo thirteen splash arrested development empire eight Mile Friday Night Lights American gangster which was actually. Worse splash genius among others He is the author of the new release face to face the art of human connection and the New York Times bestseller a curious mind the. To a bigger life, he was named one of Tam magazines most influential people in the world and is the CO founder of imagine entertainment along with his longtime. Ron How I get and I guess that if a lustrous introduction didn't key win, I'm talking about Brian Grazer. Welcome to expeditiously. Sir. Thank you. You're so welcome. Thanks for having me. Man Isn't absolute pleasure you of I. Mean You have quite the? Impressive resume. Wait what? What made you know the directing. Was the right move for you of for well for producing mostly. Yeah. So you so so please explain how you got into producing rather than directing sure of course. Yeah. Actually that's the second question minutes grilling good question because I had many opportunities to direct, but I just felt like directing. Drinking you have to focus. Singularly on one narrative right and. I just watched so many great filmmakers and an order to be great. You have to spend a lot of time thinking of like we should that lampy over here should it be over there staging all the different details you didn't really interest me. So, what really interests me is story a wind prospect new worlds, right? So I started. By accident into getting a job at warner brothers as a clerk. Okay and I made you go to one above. Won't go like is I overheard I was living in this apartment in Santa Monica and I ever heard these three guys saying, Oh wow. I just left the easiest job and one guy said how easy because it was so cushy and I thought what a worst lizzy well, that's for me. I thought. IANA brothers a deal. That's really yeah So I made a call got the job that day because one of the guys just quit okay. That was the point of serendipity. Garin deputy got this job and I lived at I worked at a little office like this big and then I was asked to deliver papers like a week later and I delivered them to Warren Beatty, and so I was handing the papers to his assistant and the assistance had Gimme the papers and I realized that that moment I don't have to give them the paper. I can say of twenty two. I, said, oh their papers are invalid unless hand them directly to Mr Beattie himself and the guy said like version of like fuck you give me the fucking papers. Slit. Nicely, kept together very quickly. And I said now no, the papers I I can take them right back to warner brothers unless I him directly to Mr Beattie. So the Guy Thought Okay I'll let you in so I as I handed him the papers I created a conversation you'll like game my cat. At twenty two and into an hour long conversation which I learned so much in this one hour that I thought I'm going to do this every time every day Ohka, and so I did that for eighteen months till they finally fired me. So basically, you just found a way to politics yourself into the rooms where people had the information you need it. To to further you along in your journey. Yeah exactly. which is extremely important yet to identify who those people are and what information they have that you need to progress. Yes and it will right exactly that but it all ski. All right. Let's this other stuff is just stuff you know them in the Wilson's the real skill is identify who are the people that can help me and what do need from them and hacking apple right and how can I be smart when I get that conversation with? Absolutely. So when I've able to like locate them navigate my way through this sort of opaque world of Hollywood. And I'd find those people that I was. As you said, just you know targeting or zeroing in on because they're actually getting something done. To deliver the mail and. Exactly. With Warren Beatty because he was a big move on the world at that time right was. You nervous or branch. Branch share lift you manage year that's been king Brescia has been my manager partner brother and friend for a flat fifteen years now. I'm like. Ev as long as I've been an actor say. and actually that's how I found myself in your in your company. So often yes, I remember you always you came to me and you always said you wanted to do bio pic. And that's I never was quite like I just. We could never work through exactly. The schematics have had to make that happen but you were you were a successful in eight mile and get richer that tried How did you get Eminem to act? Wow what a good question. I know Marshall Man like I i. Hadn't a hail. Did you get him to? Do a damn good job a forest I. Yeah. I didn't really. I think. I got into a conversation that. where he found himself so engaged in the story. That he felt ownership in that story. So. I wasn't. It wasn't that I even was smart enough to go like, Hey, you should act. I found that he I'm good at picking people that would be that will be have screened impact. Okay like you Oh absolutely, which we should talk about but. But with them I just I saw him for a fleeting moment on television on the via maze and I thought, wow, that guy is very impact I'm curious about him. So being impactful creates a lot of things me translate to a Lotta things shoe. So it got my attention and I was curious about what is he thinking about? Who is he? And there was a mystery that sort of became unlocked as when I met with them. And then I did ask him to act in this movie. Visually he said, no, you know version of like I've never acted in the movie never even acted I've done videos that's about it. And I just said I know you can do this. I mean I just believed he could do it and I just said my truth I, I said, I. Know You can do it even though you've never acted before. And L. He went for. because. He's well because he's really talented smartest thing he ever did. I think when people are he's talented courageous and perfectionist Iq. So once he's decided yet think I could do it. He started applying that competitive perfectionist, Dick, Murray side of himself, and that's what blew up. Well, I, mean a phenomenal job and also another one of my favorite films boomerang a listener anybody who travel lot like me in La one day landed next New York, the next and you're gonNA. Lose touch with your kids. You're you're lovell's and you loved warns I'm GonNa tell you don't overpay for sale service you dig what I'm saying listen to the get connected with. H. Two, a wireless. It's the same network as the big carriers book for way less as to gives you unlimited talk and text over seventy countries plus fifteen gigs of data off four dollars a month no contract, no stupid hidden fees no panther stuff that you never going use you. WanNa talk to your grandma overseas before no problem you want to stream music videos. You got plenty of data for that a stool, a base right here in Atlanta h how my city employ people right here you know what I'm saying. At and T. T. mobile man listen bro You could say yourself a fortune by switching the H. Two without sacrificing the coverage I limited tau and takes over seventy countries and fifteen gigs of data for four dollars a month just dial pound two fifty and say the words Ti Poa KS and USA fifty percent off your first much damn dial pound two, zero from your cell phone and say Ti apple cares make the switch H. Two O. Wireless now are Reggie Reggie hedlund directed boomerang correct yes and It starred the likes of. Eighty Murphy Halle Berry Martin Large David Alan grier. Yeah. the late great John Will the spoon. Did you know that you were. Did you. Moment in history that you did you did you get where you aware? No not even close were no. I never know that actually I just know if I really liked something if I really. I well, first of all, Eddie's career was at a lower point in his career. And I but I just believed in his talent so much and I liked him so much personally but it was after Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah but he was Kinda trapped paramount. Where where they wanted them he did Beverly Hills. Cop but they wanted him to do what they told him. And no artist likes to be told what to do. Right. Way, to, get us not to do it and. And he and I related to each other when we met I met him when I went and saw him. Perform doing raw and I also knew Richard Pryor much earlier and I think that might have had some influence than that Richard Pryor and I I don't know but he trusted me and. I just was willing to give myself. Yeah I mean I think that Boomerang was one of the most influential Art Pieces of our culture. Wow, that edge iteration. With ninety two exactly I. It was just you know it was it was A. A formidable time. You know what? I mean there were a lot of stories a lot of voices. A lot of cultural impact that yet refuse to be ignored like right at that moment in a lot of different spaces will do. Fashion. Film. Television Music all kinds of you know just just different. Art Forms were you know they were? REFUSING TO BE IGNORED. Yeah. What I a little dangerous of me to say but you can nicely correct me if I'm wrong. But I think what we did was we consciously put. Black People in affluent environment. And movies that preceded that were always like let's put the black person in hard times. Heart all that an idiot I sorta said look we're going to put them in a really all we're gonNA, put the. Of People and characters in an affluent kind of glamorous and sometimes super fabulous. Environment. And and that was I think was really. KINDA mind expanding, and by the way it helped me make the TV series empire because I thought. No network wanted empire either. But I thought wow, if you. You know if you create A. Power structure like we did empire and you allow them, you know the characters to really be big and win at things and be affluent again but earn it I think audiences loved earned success right? Not just transported success but earned success some kind of both cases boomerang and this TV series we did. You know that that's what we kind of. That's why get help make it work matt. Thank you. Know I think that definitely has a hand in it so I read it as a kid you feel that you were distant to become no one. My God. Did it say? Yes said you said you said. Yeah some version of that. But I mean, well, I was acutely dyslexic. Well, it it. It says that you felt that you were label stupid because of your dyslexia. You would also say that you you feel you weren't supposed to be successful I don't know. How I mean. Give me roll listen I think very highly of myself. There's some tire man you know when we are. Dark moments and when we travel back to those places, if we're honest with ourselves about how we feel. That feeling like this is not the key. Feeling like this, overcoming this field and pushing through to the other side yeah that you you fucking mind as to keep. Your agr- agree. Respected. I just looked at a report card every every semester and straight off. So I. I just thought this. This is. Not Give me anyway and they're, and they're always recommending teachers always ragging parents that they put me back at semester but there was an ingredient inside of me probably possibly like you were I thought. Even. Though all of the empirical evidence was pointed against me I knew I had this ingredient the made me special. It was just something just something that was i. knew US different. Than other people in a way that I thought was cool. So so what made you go from from from from having overcoming those challenges of Dyslexia to recognizing that you were passionate storyteller Well, that's much later in life. The passionate storyteller. That's right when I graduated. College. Okay. So but. So you straight F.'s dyslexia. Graduated College. because. I got better at I didn't get all straight us all the way through. I mean what I'm saying is but there's a there's a the progressive steps that she'll to correct yourself I did and and to strengthen your weaknesses to succeed. Yeah. So you didn't just say okay well, I got dyslexia fuck fucking no. That's great yeah. A Lotta. People use learning disorders as an excuse not learn. Wow no I do know people that they. Ran On top of it that's I agree with that. I. Mean. But I think I never thought that I thought I'm going to push through this. I'm a dreamer and dreams I can actualize these dreams. I was always good at evangelizing stories or dreams right so I didn't know that they would have a currency however. So, when after I got fired from this law clerk job okay. I thought what am I going to do but what did you major you when you went to college psychology? Yeah very unrelated I didn't know I wasn't I didn't have any knowledge or interest in the entertainment business. Okay. Unrelated but none of them related. because. So. Many Egos and Oh. Yeah you will the Yes. I didn't unrelated in terms of a correlation between psychology as a major end cinemas a major. Psychology as we all know, is the most central ingredient that has value in our in our business because you're constantly trying to understand other people during these economically turbulent times everyone is looking for a way to feel more financially secure. 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Different versions of the same strip. Consistently over decades. Okay. Okay. So for for a person with that high level of skill, set their high level of success rate I, just I would like to know what defines success for you. what to define success. Well, there's basic metrics. Okay to matter to me like I if it's a movie or television fits a movie. I wanted to make money. Because that's supports that it's success. This is how you keep school. That's you keep score. And then I do care maybe even more I care about what my peers are critics think of the thing I did wow, I didn't imagine that. Yeah. ARGUMENT WITH I don't give a fuck it all really I've really done. Well. You've had tremendous success without giving a fuck that may not just. that's that's interesting and I think that it's It's quite noble of you to consider your appears constituents so much that you actually honor in value their opinion I, do I think that's great do you think it's great? Having an argument with somebody. No I've had arguments with people that have run networks say their names I go in front of a lot of people. I. One sided argument with the chairman of Network. and. I said, do you care more about money or awards? He goes just money. And I always cared weirdly more. I care more about awards. And wards are a representation of how peers and people that I would respect you know the matter. Because wards are are sort of an index of. Yeah well, funny. You should mention that but I think that like in the in the world that you dominated, which is the world of of Entertainment Cinema Television Joaquin Phoenix has gone on record saying that there's an incredible lack of diversity. Like how do you think? The industry. Needs to progress light. How does the industry need to progress to maintain relevancy with The Times? In terms of diversity well, we'll see this is the thing, right? Okay. So You said you appears originality well. But see it has to be received by someone who can relate to the originality. For instance, let's just say the Oscars or the KADEMI will. Okay if you have aboard of of of directors that are completely oblivious to the coach in which this story speaks wrong, you can't adequately. Judge estimated value. Because you are really aware of. The culture comes from. So that gives the artists a place where I'm not really being judged by my peers for real. How do you think we can progressed canned of closing that gap? Between the establishment and the peers yes. Okay. That's a really good and hard question. Now I think as a as a as a as a jug annette in visionary in industry, you've been able to you know ascertain solutions for dozens of challenges and adversities. If it's going to be fixed as it has to be fixed from the inside by people who are sincere and empathetic to to to the need and I feel like you know that may that may be the likes of a one young Brian Grazer which is important for me to see just how you how you feel about it. Okay, so I try to. This is a hard question to answer but. They're everything has a specific, but I try to pick subjects okay that our original sure I try to pick subjects that are hard rather than soft. So I don't WanNa. Pick. I definitely never wanted to go down doing corny stuff absolutely is doing corny stuff shortens year career lifespan by you know almost immediately. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So screeching halt. So yeah. So you always have to have edge, but you know this only too. Well, see our our actual career our personal career can go like this. It will go like this. No, there's no person that is so successful that their career trajectory goes straight up meaning their story, right but there's a person have to keep evolving. Nats what makes them cool because we directors great artists that haven't made a movie in three years but you go that dude is still cool. Right. So that's who I want to. You as a content producer provider. Contact Creator. You've been exceptional. You know try. At least visibly maintaining high levels of diversity within the store, is you tail in the people you work with? I'm talking about the establishment. The system is the system that broken. The system can the system really adequately estimate the value of the stories that come from a culture that the system may not be familiar with? No they can't. They can't good answer. Good answer. So they do percent of the time, right? Yeah. So you might go like parasites cool and progressive or new, right? Right. Then there might have been other movies in that category of not saying specifically we go that movie just of I don't know how that got under. That's Super Corny, and that might be a product of the sort of commercial industrialization of the establishment where you which would be like a you know A. Cookie cutter kind of a movie or TV show. Guys. Hopefully you guys like you and me go. We know the difference. With. An example, right? Yes. spike. Lee Gist won his first Academy Award. You know what? I'm saying, yeah, we all love the the yeah. The phenomenal groundbreaking work he's done. Yes. As a as a storyteller. Yes. Yes. So how could? This system so long to catch up. To understand that the this is relevant to the the coaches speaks for. Wow. Okay. Okay. That's deep sh. That is that is that really Does it is. It's deep. In that case. Probably. I'll get myself in trouble but no, you won't. Okay I'll absorb. Here's the thing. Okay. Okay good. Well for the establishment, the main establishment that gives awards out Unfortunately, they judge all of the variables even things that are not related to the work itself they might go spike Lee's always. Just, want to say because I love spike. Lee. Because I had a great relationship with them. You know where I made the movie inside Man With Dad Phenomenal Film. And he made a deal with me at the door where he said. Bryant I WANNA make this movie. He pulled the script out move. From behind his back. and. He said. Yeah. Folded up honest back to as I was walking to the elevator and he goes. This is your project and direct it and I'm GonNa make it into a great movie and a great work experience for you. And he looked me right in the is that I'd known him ten years. And is is connecting demise headset depth. That I thought insincerity and I thought I'll do it and I even had another director on it but I let the director go because I felt the power and the sincerity of this man. And I always knew we had the talent. because. It was so awesome and so ground breaks. So many Malcolm Mixing Yeah. Oh. So many you know school days and yet I mean is let them. A lot of mobile blues a good one. Yeah. So I just felt like. I'm gonNA Trust this moment. What else can I trust? This moment and I'm GonNa Change my life is as intuition. That's very important. I, don't know if you look around but sometimes Right. Now people all over the country spending time with family and friends in making some of the best members of their lives. Why not make some of those memories with an ice cold Miller High Life Miller high life has been faithfully brew the same way since the start in nineteen zero three and has been celebrating the good life ever since that's why they're known as the champagne. Beers. So raise a can celebrate summer simple moments with the highlife Miller highlight champagne and beer is quite a bit within everyone's reach celebrate responsibly millerbrook covered in Milwaukee Wisconsin So so so I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think he's been Handy I, mean he's been penalized certain. Full being. Yeah in his journey he's been his art hasn't been judged in a pure way and so finally after. So many punches by the man they finally said. Let's let them up and give him an man. I can believe you just answer that. Honestly. Thank you. Okay. I mean I think that's exactly how we see. It just did we we? We just never got fair and decent people to admit to it. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah I. think that's really true of and like for sure I mean not just by like certain people. Don't have been and again yet I. Mean you get it right you know. But I think overall more diversity within the system I will lead to more fair practices. I'm going to tell you a quick story. Okay, please. I'm trying to say it in a way where. I have a show. Okay. And the show to TV show and it was getting it's all. It's all black cast. Okay. To half hour show. Not going to say I can't say 'cause I. It's so right now this this moment I'm really angry about this. Okay. I found out over this weekend that it tested really high like as high as it could be tested. Okay. And They. All the executives are way So did not done. Now. I'm aware of I'm not black. It's so clear. I'm not black. But I but I've had to have many of these conversations for. The last thirty years of my career were studios will say we're picking up the show that it up or where picking up the movie were going and then they go international talking to worry. And so they're still if there were diversity within the executives new would be it would be a better. It would be a better situation, right? When the sixth person down from the top is black. That they it's gotta be better than that. My right he's got that he or she has got to be the third person or the first person or something or just it has to be has to be integrated every company in all every corporation would benefit from young people. Yes. Black people not necessarily the same person to be in the room with them and candidate share light of nine shooting work. Bro. You what is offensive knows exactly borderline. You know. If. Just Kinda like I had this conversation same thing you just turned me onto this. With somebody that's really smart but he's older. Okay and I. And I said I know what you think. You think because I bring this up to you all the time like get a younger person to work with your for. You think you think that I think younger is better. And I'm not telling you younger better. I'm just telling you younger is different. Meh Younger is necessary. It's necessary. Very good. You know I think for one if if if you're producing entertainment young people have more tab. To consume. Entertainment you know what I mean yes. As we get older, we develop more responsibilities and you know just just things that we have to there were mandated. Yeah. To Take Care of and it doesn't allow US opportunity to listen to music watch many movies actually as many plays as we might do as we might have, we were teenagers in early twenties. so They are spending the most amount of time. Not Just Not, just cultivating in creating this content, but also consuming it and and and and and and finding it. You know I think young people That's high at this. Travis Guy You know just just young keys on the Internet another directing. Their attention to to a certain place. And you know and those same young kids man who they they. They have been the gasoline in his machine you know what I mean. For Run. With that a hitch. He, he can move droves of young young y reckless people and that thing. I, it benefits his bottom line. Yeah. Yeah. For sure I think every company every company has an opportunity to benefit from the minds of young people in just the. The culture. Of of black people because now I think. It's always a melting pot USA is a melting pot. Okay. So all these coaches are coming together and now since the Internet has been created and you have social media, now we become aware of all of these other code, all these other cultures you may live next door to a Vietnamese person which you wouldn't really have an opportunity to speak to them about their culture and know about their life until facebook. To speak to him in how I could just Oh, this is from this is what they do. Okay, and now you you automatically have I guess it ability to relate or some formal knowledge of how this person leaves this much different from how you live. It gives you a sense of respect. And that brings us together. Yes. I, believe. But since you had so much success in movies yet, what makes a movie great? Challenging a really hard subject doing it. Exceptional. Yeah what was the most like tell me the most the The one that jumps out to you firsthand when you think about doing just what you said like, what what, what film do you when you asked me that question? I. Thought of the movie Dunker Chris Neulander okay. So I had lunch with him before even made the movie goes what are you doing next and because I really wanted to understand Batman why? That and who so so which Batman? Well, the one that he did actually I don't remember. So. Yeah for the first three. Batman when he did good look at it was more about it was the joker it was Christian Bale Christian. People. Thank you see. Hope you edit the we don't really smart. Let's look smart on this. Thing is recognizing that you don't know. So you go. There you go. Good. Good Anyway. So anyway. So so I should come into the chase was he tells me doing a movie called Dunkirk I said what is done Kurt and he said, well, the war was fought a battle that was fought that everybody in in western Europe knows but I didn't know what it was. So I thought okay he's doing a subject that I don't really know anything about now the movie comes out. And blows my mind because I didn't know I had no familiarity with that particular war battle right. But yet it was completely captivating. It was completely captivating this. Because he created a sonic and cinematic world that was so different than I'd seen or heard before. And so that blew my mind because. It's very hard to get exposed to new subjects. and. Then now, you're exposed to a new world and a new subject and he's creating mind expanding rule cinematic and sonic rules man a universe that was very special. So I thought that was. Quite inventive in the music was Hans Zimmer's score was spectacular. It was like a sound that I never heard and you knew all of this from conception from him saying. What he was going to do next though I knew none of that. All I knew was that he was doing a movie on don't call Dunk Kurt and he said you'll hear about it and he told me a little bit about it. But I didn't WanNa, make him tell me his whole the whole movies making lunch because that could be kind of homework exhausting. I'm trying to leave a good impression, right? You know. So so basically, I didn't know that much about the subject I didn't learn on any of that until actually experienced the movie but I, even recently just like one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventeen that movie. Okay. also because I. It, it was involved me. in a in a really kind of emotionally palpable way immediately ochre and I didn't expect that it would murray when. Well, because I just wouldn't see a movie called nineteen seven. Ban I like modern stuff. Okay. So it wasn't something I would go see but when I did. It. Again kind of blew me away in terms of the filmmaking. Itself might funny by your definition of good movie when you just said Yeah I'm subject. Yeah. And I'm not pandering Bryan. Even if you weren't here, you said that I would think a beautiful mind came to my mind in. Nineteen because you're sitting, you're really thank I'm surprised that you didn't say that I mean I don't want to say my own movie. La. We'll listen. Okay. How about? Right? Yes. American gangster. Yeah. Okay. So you sought out the the story, the life. Story. Of One young. Frank. Lucas. Who? Who, who is now the dearly departed. I may not. I mean he's yeah he's no longer with us go every. So yes, But what made you do that? Phil and what made you like recognize has Him To celebrate this store or to tale this story. because again, truly significant impactful to the culture. Okay Well. To me that story was less about a guy. Less about it was less about being a drug dealer. A heroin importer. Okay. It was more about a man. That was deeply in need and in deep pursuit of respect. Yes. and to me, that was the same. Was the same kind of force that made me WanNa make apollo thirteen that starred Tom Hanks right which was it's about. Emotional. And psychological survival like Frank Lucas couldn't survive another day by being punked in bitched out by. Guys that were bigger than him in that community you could have said that better than I. Think. But I just felt like. Men Need Self respect. Yeah and and I think and I think it's so central for you know I'm sure men and women but I I know men better than women but men. You know it's it's like you want we all wars are fought over disrespect. Absolute End. And I just think that self respect human self respect is really central to a amand being. And he felt hopeless Frank Lucas. So he was like gigantically resourceful and a semi literate black man from. North Carolina decides he's going to go to Southeast Asia entrench up the Mekong Delta to a place that's completely foreign to him to ultimately get self respect. Well. I can understand that I can that was my interpretation man. Let me ask you a question when you need for your car where you go let me say you some time and I'm here for you. You need to go check rock out OH DOT, com rock auto DOT COM is a family owned auto pause business that has been servicing customers for over twenty years strong and it's own laugh. You don't have to fight any crowds in any stores they have everything from engine control modules and brake parts to tell lamps, motor oil, and even new carpet whether it's for you. Classic. Car Your everyday. Call or your brand new car get everything. 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Now, of course, all right along along the journey decisions will may you know probably? either. Of US would wouldn't have made him grounds. and I I can't agree with everything but I'm saying just speaking on the Just where his life could have been heavy several four yeah and and where he directed to go, you know what? I'm saying inside of the circumstance. Yes. I think you know what I'm saying I think that's the story we're telling in Matinee, and the thing is not many people in your position who looked like you understand the relevance of such story thing I'm trying to get to route of how it is. You can just go anywhere in any culture in find the story. You said Spike Lee gave me that's. So moment to mcdonagh telephone from a Beautiful Mind Bouma rain to inside man to to to American gangster. All of the you've and Dunkirk, you've you've gone into different labyrinths if you will and pulled out the significant piece of a story, you feel should be showcased. Okay. Well because I'm deeply obsessed with human capacity And so when people exceed what they think? They're human capacities they exceeded. That interests me okay and And so when that's When its unique world and there's a, there's a person that's at the center of that unique world, a character right? That is. Then, I'm interested at. Women I'm happy you became mentioned it especially in American Games you actually hired me for well I did. What made me you know of all the what made you consider me? First of all, you were a huge star will still am. But I'm just but the movie was then. What you still are forgetting now. Of course and then but you were. You were. Top of mind because. Okay so By you being in our move by what made me interested is. Your your huge star. And you're, authentic. With, authenticity. We we are movies need as much authenticity. Every story needs validated. There's to create the more and more authenticity for that story, right. So by having you in the story and a few others in that story and Denzel in that story show, it feels often like real. And things that feel real. Have the greatest impact on. Readers or audiences you went audiences, right so why was interested in you was Again. I like your music a lot. My kids like. In and and then I, it was I was very very blown away the you were willing to shut your very lucrative music career down for. At least six weeks to be in this role as a huge sacrifice. So any person without much talent and willing to make that kind of sacrifice the CARB is going to go in in the in my direction. Well, I mean I appreciate for doing so and it was one of the best experiences the greatest experiences probably learn. More on that shit and I have anywhere else working. Russell Crowe and and Denzel and really Scott. Yeah. Even common and yet you're tail Resolu- It was just a phenomenal cash. You know what I'm saying that that you know that was that was very well put together and I'm proud to be applauded. Oh, thanks I remember sitting here in this really quick because I was we had the meeting with you and your office Oh, my God you remember that. Of course I do Beverly Wilshire Yeah Yeah Office. Yes. Yes. Yet are we this meeting and you had your conversation I was there and you pick up the phone and called Ridley Scott you the phone and said I'm going to meet somebody and we went and met with him you're not. Really that day or the next day but you. I forgot that and you just had I WanNa say two other things I could real quick. Schumann. When people talk about tip and together a long time on film and TV space people talk about American gangster more than anything. You've ever been a part of as far as. Moving. It was. Years later with other, it holds up and. Number two, you talk about that. Remember the saw you. You didn't have a big tour that summer and getting a cough or Cohen. Man I. Remember this too by the way you calling with. Call with Craig Calman and Julie they all called me and they said they were they used a lot of bad language. Really fucking pissed that he's going to go take this small I remember six weeks in the summer and hot summer. New York forfeit a multimillion dollar tour that they were planning and I remember they they all called for them together and I said, you know what I said to layer I said Mr Colin respectfully speak the tip because. You're talking to you yelling at the wrong person if he doesn't get you to do it. But if he told me, he wants to do this. So we've I've acted according to on his behalf, which is my job. Yeah. Thank. Our nervous. We're scared that there was so much pressure on you can I didn't know you really. Much. Pressure that you might. Not You quit. I said, I did I thought maybe this guy I didn't want you to, but I was scared that could be possible. I mean. Initially I say now when a lot of pressure but now thinking back there actually was a lot of weight there went with you know the the the deceision and you know just. Just. Preparing for the role our member. Hours upon hours of pitching practice. And we never use clear. Teaching. that. Once. Pitching weeks. Forty hours Lynn hours on end. Of Learning how to pitch? Only tonight pitch. Because you know it was it was it the story flow seamlessly Do you know how many movies you May. Do. You know I think I made nine. Maybe, almost one hundred movies I've been involved. Okay. A hundred movies and you have a hundred and ninety five emmys. Yeah One, hundred, ninety. TV shows yeah. I, engine ninety five. Made. How well. I've. She get older to certain no no, I mean it's like. Amy and put it on. The Wall. No I also. One hundred ninety five. Why don't get one hundred ninety five okay girl yes. Okay. But I would get the emmy for the best series you know. So I did a limited series called from Earth moons I won for Best Limited series than for comedy arrested development than a drama for twenty four and I think we got something for empire but then all the other people are getting MBA's too. So that's kind of aggregate. So they just counting all of the collective emmys they can under the titles appeased all the things that I yeah. All the things that I've made. Oh. Well I mean that's GotTa bring somebody else. But. That's how they add them all up. How people do it with me I think the you know. You've had you had your work cut out for you try to do. Yeah. And you even you talk about how you? Met Od be yes and and what did that turn into? Did you meet him? Do you know? No, I met him ways. I met him once in passing. Yeah. I have met him once turned into it turned into well. It turned to me like. It was like an eye opening experience like, wow, this is hip hop I. Guess, Right Well it was just so wild. The guy was a you know he was the Wu Tang clan, the I love his voice I like the sound but more he was just. So Rowdy. So authentic authentic that I thought. This is this is a guy that defining the tone of what hip hop is from the East Coast perspective, right? So Okay because I knew very little about that but but that introduction. Planted the seed for Wootton American Saga Yes How did you hold onto that idea from the time? You met him all the way up to. Saying. How did you keep that idea nurtured and cultivated to the point of you know from conception to to release Well from what I learned about my one experience with Oh DB. Okay. I thought I got to go on a kind of a learning journey in and learn about what is this all about so Then, the Fook. Went from the tank landing chuck the okay. Because I ever public memorabilia story. A. Hell of a stool and they have like these deep kind of political anthems and that was another expression of like how hip hop was working in that time, and then then I venture quickly met someone Slick Rick and though yeah. Well, that's a funny guy. So it's funny to you know like I'm really I. realized. Something, else. Check it out here. So if there's danger and then there's funny, there's a funny version of it. So Slick Rick. was ruling to prison for murder I think for But he's a big charismatic I'm talking to wonder. Laughs now, member now, most people most people who willing to make you laugh yes. A willing to get your ass off of this earth you know what I'm saying because. Light and everything. So the dark moments are extremely Dr Oh. Yeah. Just Kinda like like goodfellas with the. Finding. Yeah Yeah. Funny either. Good good. But I never thought of that. That's a good thing to think about. Any guy sort of doing that. 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And that this will that life is long will know each other a long time. The things mean a lot to me, my the metric my friendship metrics matter as much as my success metrics. Guys you. So I have a Lotta Guy Friends for. Often, there most of them are like least twenty, five years of friendship. That's like you know at least ten guys, relationships commodities. You know. They are definitely COMMU ability to maintain nurture in in you know. Just, keep solid relationship tester era to is it does it does make you think get a test your characters long like I never wanted I want people that are least. You Know Kinda successful as I am right often more successful is it's find more challenging and stimulating and or just different success. But I don't want any pushover friends. Gotcha doesn't make me feel good. You feel like that's a lost art is that why you cited? Paper on it I did and I also thought just basically. Nothing happens without human connection. In other words, it makes I could never raise one hundred million dollars to pay for a movie. I could have human connection with the person that I'm trying to get the hundred million dollars from show and that has to they have to feel your heart. People don't really. You're not moved by people's minds your moved by their hearts. Yeah. Thanks. Musician. That's what you've done. Energy in energy energy come from the heart it could come from the mind sometimes it comes from. And deeds. Yeah. But it's all you know energy. Yeah. You could make I think that's right. So some forms of accent yet and you repeal other forms of energy. So I think that you know putting that to kind of energy other people can relate to it, assist you and your efforts in any case. Yes I love the book you know it's such a lost art of sitting and even sitting you're and seeing each other. It's nicer than if this were phone call right now and there's no lasting impact I just feel like the story begin you're going to see from an AC- Ti The story began when I saw you come through the door right? If I were like on life if you walked in and I was on my phone I don't i. don't think you'd like it as much as me going. Ti. Is. Very. Very dramatic or even like worry the storytelling say I was looking down at my phone and I looked up. These storytelling you agree I agree. I mean. But why? Like why this topic? Why now what was the moment major? Say You know what? Human Connection. Because I noticed that human connection was becoming more and more rare. And I noticed that even though. We have the ability to connect to each other much more than we ever did ever and any time ever in the world by this facebook social any kind of instagram's any social media, snap any of those systems and we can connect that fast to anybody all over the world, but we're not really reaching them. You know we're not there were not friends were not. We don't know each other. We don't see each other it's not an emotional experience and so. It's a it's The Times, the emotional experiences that. have. Impact that matter Do you think social media is a big part of that the erosion of what you're talking about or just people's attention spans or I think it creates you know I think it's just part of creating digital realities that are real. It was real as this was real is when you were south by South West and I liked your sweatshirt and you gave it to me. As. A friend in need. you. Have with like fifteen, two, thousand, fifteen. I'm like, yes something like that. Yeah. Very good He was performing I. Didn't know we was by walked in there was performing. And he had this white. Hip Sweatshirt. On. and. He goes walk back here come back here and we came back. We watch from the side the whole thing and then I like the sweat genevieve just said taken. By the way. I man. Thousand. If you like it, you should have still. So, we're also working together again on the ARETHA project. Could you expound on that a little bit for the people? Okay. So why produced a television that's titled? Genius. Gotcha and so the we go through a very rigorous kind of system given system picking who those geniuses would be the ones that are unchallengeable. So of course, the first one was Albert Einstein with Jeffrey rushing but I think we got ten or eleven emmy nomination may you go back warrior? emmys Great. Nation has raised. So. They did ten hours of of our nightside and our that we did Picasso. And now we're doing aretha Franklin. And I just felt like aretha Franklin Queen of soul was extremely worthy were extremely where's the story? She's extremely worthy subject and she intersects. The point of intersection for a lot of stuff that was going on with our in our country at that time might civil rights Martin Luther King many other different things that are quite significant. I mean I I'm looking forward to. That you`re Looking forward to it I, think that you know is going to be a great time in a in a man I think a. Magnanimous Story. Yeah. Shooting in your city. The best. So. Absolute. Equivocally. This do you think that the the tax credits Georgia changed the M- the film industry? Yes. How so Well. When it just caused will Hollywood is always always excited about making. Movies television shows for less money. Yeah. That was not the. Game. So by changing the tax credit incentive there more television shows or movies being shot there than ever before in fact, they should just. Yelling. Okay, which is J. D. Antennas Book Ron Howard directed. But Glenn Close Amy Adams of the star. There are amazing. They'll shooting. Maybe we're. We might be shooting that movie part of the appeal pickup in that movie when you're shooting your seeing. Okay and so I just met him when I was a I was a young producer paramount a yelled up my window Ron, Ron our day, and then I that scared him. A. Stranger, yelling out the window four and then I called no come on I was the guy was yelling out the window producer on the lot. You're a young guy were too young guys. Let's meet and we did and he came into my office and he had this kind of glow about him energetically. That was a that really attracted me. So I immediately the same way similarly the way I said, yes spike Lee right I was really touched by. This glow this the thing about Ron, amazing. So ability to recognize exceptional talent with out any example. Pack. That's why you could. have to read a script you'll have to see. You know what? I mean. You'll have to see them act out a scene. hear him play a song. You just see somebody and can read their Oro. Largely. Sort of yeah. But I mean I do like I am? Reading a scene helps. But. If he walks in and they. If. They don't have anything if they have nothing no ingredient nothing about them as feels original to me. Then no matter what they say I I'm not particularly interested. Or they are you. Know. They have to have something that's. Feels like it's part of their singular voice It can be an article of clothing than I would ask why what made you get that thing or whatever or their sound or they're the cadence in which they talk over A lot of these different I'm not quite physiognomy but all these things Kinda matter they signal is that person this next thing to the source? The Spurs miss of Energy. Yeah. Yeah, I, mean because I think that anything good comes from somebody reaching into some Interpol truth. That is so deep that they almost can't even articulated, but but it but you see it gets if you're looking at you and I'm looking now. Last question. The most important piece. Brian Grazer has done. Well I probably the most important probably a beautiful mind would be. I mean there's other movies are shows that I liked. What I loved the President I love the six. I mean I love the the immediate impact empire had right like I episode lightning in a bottle. Yeah. It was because nobody wanted it. It was a sheer underdog thing of. One network turned us down to the point I felt so shamed I was really like an angry as an elevator like who tears down Brian Grazer. People people. Sure I just the nature of it. I mean look I learned that it was the nature of when. I had splashed. It was a huge success. Okay and then I thought wow, I've made it. I'm immortal right then I turn around and like I see et Steven Spielberg's e t and being put into turnaround that's after he directed jaws and close encounters and I think raiders of the lost Ark. Yes. So they're turning him down It's just what it is so you just have to believe. You know always continued on form yourself don't be a dilettante. Always don't just rely on instincts, they have to be informed instincts that Mason and then stick with it because. Nobody knows anything. Yeah. Everybody waking up everyday figuring Ashida and sometimes you your try. You know when you're talking about a story. They, the thing that really matters you might not have the ability to communicate. But it's their right. You know that makes sense does. So you could make black the first movie splash was ultimately it was about love. Like how disabled we are where we can't find it That's sort of was anyway cut you off. No. You're very funny too. Fighting. Back. I really truly appreciate you for coming in and share your time. You know you have. A hundred and ninety five emmy so. Turns of Shit to do but I thank you for communist imparted your wisdom and share your experiences with the generation. I think a lot of young storytellers and and filmmakers were really really appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you for all that you've done to. 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253: Do We Have A Voice Inside Of Our Heads? | Ear Biscuits Ep.253

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253: Do We Have A Voice Inside Of Our Heads? | Ear Biscuits Ep.253

"The rambles. Welcome to ear biscuits. The podcast were to lifelong friends talk about life for a long time link and I'm this week at the roundtable of adequate lighting. We're going to be talking about a number of things including the witching hour. Can we also talk about teleportation regards be talking about teleportation? Okay we're GONNA be talking about. The difference between being murdered in assess. Get. Lots of we had lots of good questions from gals why using the voice though my new thing I'm trying to now I've been. I've got I gotta I gotTa keep listening. Yeah it's easier to do than the monster truck announcer voice. As your do then this. Door NERINA. Get. You wouldn't think you could get monster trucks in the door Torino having played there which if you don't know is the. Old venue in the middle of the state fairgrounds in North Carolina that we would. Always. There'd be concerts during the fair and then we were one of the concerts in it seems small. I've never been a monster truck rally. That voice makes me now wanna go but really that makes. Me Wonder if anything else makes me WANNA go I. Think you want to be in a place that feels too small for monster trucks if you're gonna go watch monster yeah. Because you want the you want to feel the impending doom late this bigfoot loses control we all die like that's the fun in it dig your own grave by going and seeing great. Have you watched not a long time? Okay. You have no idea. Go on Youtube and just type in monster truck monster truck. Big. It's a totally new. It'll be an elephant could be a check of. Monster Truck No type in monster truck highlights. What they're doing in the world of monster trucks. is so much crazier than what they were doing. The last time you checked in when you checked in last time, it was like big foot was crucial cars now bigfoot and I don't even know bigfoot still around can like balance on the back wheels do a full flip. Link they. It's basically like watching. Olympic gymnast. Simone Biles, but she's driving trump in a truck. She is the truck. ooh. You have no idea what they're doing in the world of Moscow. Go. Crowd happen again I'm going. I think that statement just applies across the board I want to go I want to do I want to see you have trucks sound like the most amazing thing ever because you've got. Arlene Goggle this quarantine Golly, I do remember I. Think Jenna went to. Monster Truck Rally Janet, and you monster truck rally. I've been to a couple she's been to. Intel she's on video. Hey, am I not right about what they're doing is amazing. US Do this because I mean what else does she have to do? She's talking there are amazing right On just the back wheels bouncing on the front wheels balancing on the back wheel is just the front was bunch of trickery. Have they developed the technology? There was a parachute there was a type of monster truck toy. Remote Control Monster Truck as a kid anyways said remote with a nail remote. Remote. At least I can say a lot of things wrong man I know but I say. Every single time I say I'd say wolves with an L. to. In there you don't wolves man. have, they developed the toy that remember as a child that was a monster truck. That whenever it would, it would get stuck on something. Clause with come out like animal claws out of the we ago wheels ahead hires, and then it would start was that climbing over boulders and stuff? What was the name of that thing? I had that you had it oh yeah. Headed in in California or something or when I was your friend when I was a kid I had to monster truck had the orange closet came out hands it came out and gripping I bet it was called the claw. I don't know I'm into it though today do that I'm sure they're doing. that. Now I haven't seen the clause he hasn't seen the clause. Advanced Technology. When that happens I'm definitely going. Okay. I think it's like a fun loving girl venue I mean Jonathan Levin Girl. Memory I know that memory. Would go mainly, heart would go to my. Goes in then wrassling up and put it on. Monster Truck. Yeah. She's living it up. She's totally living I really wanted to have fun. I'd really. A really. Be Friends with her like active friends like we're passive digital friends like we see each other. But you know I mean I guess that's one of the appeals. She's fine love. Yeah. Well, I don't know what she's doing lately. That's the thing when you live a life as exciting as memory. Then when Kobe happens. I mean, we should check in on her own. Because there's she's not she's not going to see in wrestling. She's not going to the monster truck and I'm sure it's not the same when you watch it on television I mean, have you watched wrestling I watch I watched a new one. And there's no crowd of course. I mean sports without crowds already crazy already sort of weird. Wrestling without crowds I mean yeah almost embarrassing. Like when the guy hits the lands on the Mat. And you can really hear it like nothing else. So they're not adding crowd noise. NBA Games. They have a crowd crowded digital cross. They have a digital crop, but they add crowd noise at certain parts. Yeah. They do. And it's fine. The NBA Games are are are still fun to watch I. Don't they add crowd noise the whole time and crowd noise transition at the beginning a transitional positional moments or whatever. But then you get into the game and it's I don't think there's crowd noise but you see the people on the screens are they live? Like are they are they confident videoconferencing in or are they just sending in footage of themselves as being Lou live? So they can be how you get to be one of the I don't know me and lack of had this discussion luck figure out how you become one of those people who's watching and I even sinement. He didn't do it but I did find out I heard somebody talking on twitter about. Because I was wondering like you know people, video chats, their decorum is a lot different than somebody in the real world, right? The. Chances of you like literally like whipping it out on video chat. As a joke are way higher than in real life. You know what? I'm Oh you talking about Utah. TWIGGY Barry. Yeah And you know that somebody's like I'm GonNa get on there and whip it out. Yeah. Because what are they going to come to your house and I don't know what they're gonNa do but I do know down your door there's two. There's two things that happened. The first thing that happens is if somebody whips which it out or makes an obscene gesture, I think we could expand what what the different awhile we'll know you immediately kicked off the stream and ban them right. But then the second thing is there is a slight delay because one of the things you'll notice if you watch the NBA Games right now is there are these very long sometimes like seven to nine seconds long where you don't hear anything except the announcers because they're bleeping out the profanity of the players that you typically do not here because of the crowd. and. These dudes are constantly cursing. You know they're cursing a whole lot less because they know they're being listened to. Just, watch one of the NBA Games, and they will just. Don't somebody's cursing at somebody's Carson back is dropped all the audience soda the court there's the delay. I don't know what the delay is seven seconds or whatever just in time for somebody to be like they. I'M GONNA. So if you show it to him berries in the feed, they can probably automatically not show it. There's some technology you know. So does that have you just talk yourself out of pursuing? Being in the virtual way that I know that it live is because if again, I watched a lot of NBA. and. What's happening now is like when people like I saw the other day like Paul Pierce was watching a celtics game and he was in the crowd watching a celtics game. and. They were showing his reactions to things that were happening. He was like and they'll show people like somebody misses a free throw and you'll watch all the people behind the goal I go and also when people are shooting free throws the they put the opposing team's feed or maybe it just happened to be that and everybody's on their screens tried to get the guy to miss. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you're saying they have a separate fee then like the average viewer, the broadcast viewer because there's actually live. Oh and then the thing. Seven seconds wouldn't work right for us. Well, it wouldn't work for them. You would like everybody was just very slow in reacting to everything. Wow. So yeah, they'd probably do have a real feed. Of the game that is no delay for these special people and how do you get to be one of those people? I know you probably go to NBA DOT COM is turning into an ad. As. PROBABLY DOT com slash ear, and it will redirect you to a site that actually exists. Now, I was watching a WNBA game the other day they do not do the crowd they have no video crowd and I was like, why don't they get a video? Would that give them women video crowd? It's the same court, right? It's not the same core up upward I looks the same the setup, a similar screens, double the screens. What are you trying to say? That's probably their just. I'm not saying I. Agree well I know that there's a lot less money and the WMBA in the NBA, and maybe they just don't have money for screens, but it immediately hit me that like y'all Yanni to do the screens for the women as well because sure. Yeah it's like it's really obvious difference. Yeah, you know. I mean, how would you rate yourself I? Mean we're talking in quarantine. Okay on a scale I WANNA ten just in general you like you're Oh, you mean just how? Yeah I mean, let's just have a quick. Quarantine update just on a scale of one to Okay. I had a I had a coming back from vacation. I had had some low points, oh? Yeah. Yeah just. I don't know I just you know something I told you about the disappointing thing that happened vacation would hurt myself or whatever. but I actually, I had a moment. Of. Like a very specific moment. During Meditation last week. where it was like. Things sort of shifted for me. Ego Death. It was anything that that substantial but it was just one of those things that was like. Well. No, it was just sort of a realignment of my expectations. So a lowering of expectations well, that would be. That would be a negative way to put it but I do think that there is a know we were talking about this morning as a family we were talking about this but like I think one of the things that happens when you are stuck and you're not able to travel and you're able to experience life in the way that you used to. If you're being a responsible person that is I mean if if you're not being responsible person, you just going on about your business then. A screw you. You won't be able to relate to what I'm about to say but. If. You're being a responsible citizen in the midst of this pandemic end. So you're limiting yourself from the things that you typically experience. You can depending on your personality if you can have a tendency to begin to. Depressing right? I. It's. It's Oh. Yeah. It's depressing is the same thing over and over again and I was thinking about traveling and I was thinking about all the things that I want to experience and I was listening to a guided meditation. and. The woman doing guided Meditation Guided Meditation. There's an idea. Write that down. But no, her voice was very, very peaceful. Very peaceful. And very soothing. and. She was basically talking about your inner landscape as opposed to the world of the the the world's landscape writing, and just this realization that sort of the work that you do on yourself by being introspective digging yourself out and sort of getting lost in your own inner landscape and I don't mean that in like a super self absorbed way I mean that in like. Becoming who you are becoming the process of becoming who you're becoming is something that if you are truly engaged in it. It stands to be substantially more fulfilling than the idea of just exploring the external world right because we we tend to reprogram in a way to think that the external is where happiness is. His something outside of you, it's. A new house, a new car is a new job as a new relationship. and. Everyone falls for this lie right that if you get the circumstances, the external circumstances in your life, right you will be happy. But every single person who has ever gotten external circumstances completely right. Says this ain't. It y'all this ain't it. Right. Perfect example of that. From. If you're if you relate to our background. King. Solomon. Right Yep the whole, the whole. Ecclesiastical. Easy. Asked us the whole book. is about how I had everything. Anything that I want any pleasure that I wanted in. It's all vanity right? It's all there's nothing new under the sun in. So for me. I have to come to this multiple times. So I was thinking about my vacation and how they want wanted to I another thing again, these are super first world problems. Very privileged problems I get back. From vacation am a frigging pool areas still not done, right? They still got multiple things to do the pool has no water in it, etc.. These things that most people don't have period in the world or even the United States and I'm complaining because mine's not done yet. But then I was like, well, why am I placing so much expectation in why am I relating my happiness to the impending? Completion of this project because already know what's going to happen the project's going to get done. I'm going to have a pool in a hot tub. That are exactly the way me and my wife want I'm going to get in there. I'M GONNA listen to the music from the speakers that we've installed. And I'm going to be happy about that for about four hours. You. Know we're GONNA enjoy as a family. I'M NOT GONNA. I'M GONNA. Try Not to take it for granted but everyone adjusts your barometer, your thermostat it adjusts to whatever you're in and so there was just this moment where I was like, what about right now? What about the moment right now? What about what's happening right now? Find the joy in what's happening right now find the joy in. Figuring out who you are and dealing with your bullshit did that happen Yeah. It did and I feel like I've been able to tap into that for about a week. So. I feel good right now I'm sure to wear off And they don't have to go to a monster truck rally I was just asking for a number nine. Wow. Okay. So, powerful nine coming from. Everything you've been thinking about. What about you? Think I'm. I mean, the vacation was really helpful if you're. You know like giving advice. I know everyone can't go on vacation or you know but there's you know just finding something to look forward to even if it's something small, I got a wreck at the end. that. You. Happy. I don't know make some people. Happy made my family. Happy. Yeah I think come. I'm thinking about a good solid eight, right. Be Plus My oh, yeah. That's I. Mean 'cause. Vacation was a good experience I. Think I'm still see. I was rejuvenated by that and I'm you know and it's A giving myself a little more. Leeway. Not so much pressure on myself and try and beat myself up for what we're not able to do. What I'm not able to accomplish or whatever and that, but it fluctuates. Very drastically. and. A couple of days at a time and then you move to, you know it's like you might move to more depressive zone just it had. It happens. Anta but there's ebbs and flows find something to do to to get out of it like Christie's you know not that we need more plants but like. Yours anymore, she's like I'm getting more plant some you know I'm getting my hands dirty. It's like the type of things help. She's getting dirty digging into the dirt she yeah. Wow like. She is a farmer, she's a former he's playing. Does she have fruits. We have lemons. That's a fruit. It's fruit. We have pomegranates you have limes. No We have. Lots you should have lions because I was making Guacamole the other night. and. You have Avocados, you have avocado tree I have a grocery store. Okay. Yeah. But we didn't have in. This is every okay. What is the key ingredient besides Avocados now probably giving away? Onions. So I mean a class I'm a classic Guacamole is Avocado. Onions, salt and lime right now you can. You can get a little. You can put some peppers in there. If you want some people put tomatoes I know you don't like to do that I don't put tomatoes in my guacamole because it makes it a little watery makes it to running unless it's a really good tomato. But if you use the lime juice that's in the plastic lime. And that has a sucker is older than a week or so. The. Tang. Is Gone. And we had so many Avocados because Jesse does something where there's like some local farm who brings produce or whatever you know and We had like twelve avocados because we had a batch came in and we didn't touch him. And then we had a new batch came in is the baby we gotta have guacamole that of Guac we gotta have guacamole multiple nights in a row. And so as I'm going for a four. Avocado Bowl right now, which is a lot a lot of guacamo- yet, the chips to support that. Not really man I was really loading up the chips because I didn't have the ratio for that either some toast to there's some also putting it on a case of. Oh. That's good. I'm using that guy for area geeky. Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri is what I say now. SAUSA- that we we had on the show and a point. That's awesome. Good man like it. Yeah. That's upper smoke. But anyway, what are we talking about they? The Lai the Tang of the Guacamole is the key and I didn't have the Tang I just felt like a fool. With this really dull lime juice is like I no matter how much put in there from that dull dead lime juice plastic green lime thing. So in other words, you should have a lime tree I'll come get someone on making Guacamole Land GonNa remove the rocks from the Rock Tumbler they have read side that's happening tonight we how many how long has been going? Since. Before vacation. Constantly moving. Yeah. We went overboard on the on the Polish states. There's there's three different phases you put different three different grits. Yeah. But we did an experiment where we left the Polish stage on there for like a week longer than we should. But what can it hurt I mean exactly the Rock and now we're excited we're going to open that thing up tonight the semi some pictures that's what I'm looking forward to Oh, I'll take him. I'd take pictures. I take progress photos of the of the rocks after before, and after every every state. On instagram is exciting content. You get a lot of followers doing that kid I could. Be. Only. Rock the. site. All right. Let's get into some questions we're doing good. Let's ride that way. Join us. You know if you don't if if you're a four if you're three of your one right now. Is Okay. I'll be there next week again. Probably you know. And you just you know just make up your mind at tumble some rocks. and. Just let let let the process work. 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Celebrate your daily win with some refreshing Miller high life, Miller high life, the champagne of beers equality beer within everyone's reach celebrate responsibly Miller brewing company Milwaukee Wisconsin. Tavern miscarry. Asks. At, what time of night do you consider to be the cutoff of late night and early morning say go downstairs in your kid is up at three, a M. Do, you say, what are you doing up so late? Or what are you doing up? So early Hashtag ear biscuits. Three M. And I'm not even GONNA go into any sort of I'm not gonNA ask myself why I think this, but just three M. Middle of the night late night. That's The middle of the night is not. I mean. Technically. Technically midnight says I mean as We all know that lets you set the base line at twelve. It's am. It's the middle of the night is the first of the next day? Can we agree on that? That's not the question to hand but yes. I don't consider that to be the middle of the night but three am count late late the middle of the night. No that's not the question. Do you consider the midnight that we're not finding the middle of the night? You just said, we're asked three am the middle of the night, right? But I'm what I meant was. A little late it's three. I'm okay. Forget middle night. It's the night. If you're up at three A M you're up late for me if you're up at four am Europe early. That'll cut off that's out in my brain without thinking about it. If if I wake up at four thirty. I think to myself. What are we hope? So early, if I wake up at three thirty I, think. Why Waking up in the middle of the night. Now, that's a good test because his example is not helpful because I think. If, you haven't gone to sleep. Then, it's still the night. You can't have a morning until you go to sleep unless the sun comes up. So, as long as the sun's not up and you haven't gone to sleep it is still night I. Don't disagree with you but that is I do not believe that taverns question the implicate you go downstairs now the the implication is that you've gone to sleep if tavern has gone to sleep and he wakes up but if I if I go downstairs at two am the kids might still be awake not I've never done three sometimes I stayed up until two. But if I've if I've woken up I understand but they haven't gone to sleep I, would not ask them why are you up so early because they haven't gotten up but also as two am forget the kid. No I'm saying his example doesn't work for me either way. Okay. What about this? Exempt but if you wake up in, you wake up at night, you look at the clock says three thirty. Do you think damn? What am I waking up in the middle of the night for? Using I understand that I think it to me I think it's later I think it's I would say. What do you think up before thirty? You wake up at five o'clock. Found thirty, five th. Okay. So for somebody who as a five thirty and I used to? Pre Cova. Woke up five fifty now I wake up at six thirty. So I I think to me it would be. Four thirty. So four twenty. Four twenty is still night is that. That's morning for me because I can think of many different times where nearly gotta go gotta go on a trip we're going to the airport we gotta get up at four o'clock and then I'm saying that's GonNa your early morning. But if I think of at three o'clock, I'm like I'm not going to sleep. Yeah. For me it's that the four to five. Okay, well, we're always trying to get to this. I was hoping that you would agree with the three to four because I think that there is a sub-conscious connection to what is known as the witching hour, which is traditionally understood to be three am to three, fifty, nine I did not know that. So that's what the witching hour is. Now People Kinda disagree and first of all is the witching hour even a thing but most people agree that that is the our that has the highest supernatural. Okay people who believe in supernatural paranormal things tend to think that's what they call the witching hour three o'clock to three, fifty, nine I didn't do much reading about this other than to establish that I didn't like find out like, well, what's that about? But I just found an interesting that that our is where there's the most extreme activity and for me that in my mind is the hour in which the transition between night and day actually happening. which is weird. based on what just your based on my gut? Yeah. Like I. said if it's four o'clock, I feel like. Why am I up early if it's three thirty, I'm like, why am I up late? Again I'm not analyzing I'm just saying from the gut that's what it feels like. But Again. I like to I, like to entertain the possibility of sort of. Believing weird things it. It has been proven in my life to be fun to believe weird things and I think it's been proven throughout history that it's fun and attractive to believe. We're things. It's fun to believe conspiracy theories is fun to believe in supernatural things. It makes life more interesting whether it's true or not. So. I think it's fun to read about it and other people who believe it, but I don't know if I'll. Say It's fun to actually believe it. Might be sad. Well. It depends on what the what effect in your personal life is I. Guess what I'm saying maybe it's scary at that time of night. That's an interesting. That is an interesting moment I mean there's You can. It's a sneaky time you know most is, is the least active time you can get away with the most, but there's the least amount to do unless you're going to I. Guess What witch well. I think. Here's my here's the scientific and again when I say scientific is in quotes in, has an asterisk next to it because it's coming from me and I am so it's not qualified. But it could sound qualified to maybe a person WHO's. Not. That smart. I think. That while again, it's fun to believe that there's actual paranormal things happening. I tend to if I if I'm putting on my rational hat I think now it doesn't really happen is perception and it's based on. People's patterns. And what state your brain. In the world is at that time and I just happen to believe that and again I have no science to back this up. There's something about your susceptibility to seeing things misinterpreting things at that hour based on just arse Acadian Rhythms, right? Because you've been going to say just based on darkness and dark hired nece will darkness is a huge part of it and yet I mean that's another way of saying the same thing. If you are if you get up if you've gone to sleep right if you stay up to the witching hour I, don't know if they're going to have the same effect I'm you'll be getting sleepy and maybe your perception will be might be worse but you prone to hallucinations perhaps. You're a person who? You've never had the opportunity to see this but link is a very deep sleeper and he is a very like I am. He will be very disoriented upon waking right I'm a light sleeper, and if you wake me up I might as well be ready to take the SAT I am full I go straight to one hundred I'm fully aware. I'm not groggy I'm talking normal. I'm not happy about it I. Wish I slept. Deeper and it would be probably more enjoyable but link light there is. At least two to three minute. Stupor. That you that you have to kind of get passed before you're fully there right well, especially, if it's that at that time of night. Yeah and I'm saying that for me that time, it might as well be the morning. I might be like, why am I awake but I'm also like GimMe a cognitive test right now. That's an elephant but the I think that most people aren't like a hindered state of awareness. You're also like coming out of a dream, your mind replacing you're gonna see and hear inexperienced things and like you said, it's dark in. So your mind is going to play tricks on you. You're gonNA see things in the dark. No one else is there to confirm or deny the things that you see. Of course, you're going to have much of weird stories from that our. And then over the years is gonNA develop. Well, that's the witching hour. Where the paranormal activity is the highest. That's my. Theory. So. Back to back to the question, I? Mean we've already answered the question we're only off by an hour by the way. Yeah but I, think it's a pretty significant our. Missing the witching hour I would think the interesting thing is you go to bed so early. that. It's it's and you get up. So early, it's weird to me that your perception of the morning is all the way into four o'clock. That's Strange to me, you go to bed at nine thirty because this is a minimal impact to me to get up at four thirty an hour earlier but like. If you're if you're buying plane tickets back when that happened and you're like, okay, I gotta I gotTa work backwards from arriving. To wake up at. Four am versus I mean psychologically waking up at five am versus four anything is. Is a lot worse three like I'll buy a plane ticket. If I would never, we'd asked three I've never bought a plane ticket to get up at three precisely that you're confirming my argument or for okay. I've done that in the I've not done many times we've had an help a flight. At seven o'clock at LAX. You gotta get up at four something to get there. You can't get five I'm like. I'm not getting before five just can't do that. Okay. That's fine. But what I'm saying is most early morning flights during the seven something. And given how long it takes to get to lax and how busy it is. You got family you gotta get the family up you're going to get up at four something but I never have gotten a family up at three something. We will not do that in our household excessive witching hour my ghost. That's why. You're biscuits is supported by oxy clean oxy clean tackles the toughest dried in staines by combining five types of powerful stain fighters to help get out more of your toughest stains. The first time it removes life's messes from your clothes and we were just talking to Kiko here and he was like I love oxy clean. He spilled a coffee on your white deve. Left. It came back through McLean on there and put it in the wash. It all came out you spilling coffee and wine all types of stuff on deve. So now, Kiko keeps oxy clean in his pocket at all time. or at least buys bed or something, it works oxy clean dissolves and traps grease oil lifts food stains from fabrics even coffee from new vase combines dirt and soil spin them in rents them away. 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Because I- teleportation is my superpower of choice because I believe that it is a. It is basically equivalent to flight. Regardless of the nature of it because. If I could choose between flight or teleportation allergies teleportation because I could basically just teleport like. An infinite number of times in that's my flight or I could just be the guy who like teleport's one hundred yards and then falls. In like a wing squirrel suit and then teleport's again in fall some more than tele-boerse a little bit higher. You know like I'm constantly flying I just. Doing it in like the stratosphere. Yes. Yes. But here's the thing and this is the question burial teleporting. This is the question for time travel to and I don't know when this first hit me I know that people would probably discussed. This is not a novel thing but. How do you? What is the point of Reference in terms of your locality? When you are teleporting or traveling right so. How okay. Let's just take back to the future, right so We forget when we think about time travel and we think okay we'll Marty MC fly has got to go back to this exact place in this exact time and he's still going to be in the town that he was in. He's like he's okay it literally, he's driving down the road in the middle of the town, and then when he travels in time, he's driving down the same road in the same town. And that's because in our world. Point of reference is the world but the world we are on a sphere if you believe that. And we are traveling not only are we spinning but were traveling around the sun, which is also moving through our in our galaxy galaxy? What is the point of reference for time travel or teleportation? Everything's moving so quickly. How deduct Brown figure out how to. Have the car. Come back. The points of reference the Earth would be in a completely different place and nineteen eighty five than it was in nineteen, fifty five like not they would be. So it would be so far from where it was. So. Did his machine have a way to like? Locate where the earth would be because sure it was relative I. Mean I think he wrote it this is Stop. pastas. Relative to the center of the Earth. So anti wrote it all on a chalkboard but okay. So in reality like so. Is Easy. Is writing the script by the way they said. They being some people on the news talk about what scientists come up with. Sent some particle back in time Mike last year or something right like. Like they they. I don't know they did your they did but not like way back in time like. They. Made a particle. Slip off of the time line a little bit. I'm using nonscientific terms for what actually happened. Okay. But. That's a particle moving. Very, very, very small amount of time right. I don't even really understand the nature of it now beginning this wrong but like let's say a human moved a year. You're going to be in frigging space man like. If you move. At least you're going to be in a different country. Like and also not on the surface you're going to be in the Earth's crust. You'RE GONNA be in the center of the Earth you're going to be on the top of a mountain you're going to be way high you but most likely you're going to be outside of the. Thin atmosphere of the earth and no longer present. You'RE GONNA be in the middle of space if you time travel. Unless they have a point of reference. For being in that exact locality locality. But what is the point of reference if the universe is constantly expanding? And depending on where you well, no matter where you are in the universe, you seem like you're in the center of the universe right. That's one of the that's one of the understandings of the way that space time is expanding is that it you can go anywhere you want to in the universe and you always perceived to be in the middle of it. So. There's no point of reference is all relative you talked me out of one to do it. So the first guy who who is going to be like I'm doing I'm traveling. Hopefully. They're like hold on a second. You'RE NOT GONNA end up here again dude you're going to die so. Don't do it. In the same is true teleportation unless it's like the kind of teleportation where you're. You can only teleport where you can see which I think is. There was some movie where that was the case and I don't know why that was the rule. But you can only tell port where you could see. Sound safer. And then that point you're not to worry about the. You're moving instantly and you move to a place you can see so I think that any like It's going to be a problem. But anyway that that's something that complicates the question for me. Too complicated for me. Julia. I got nothing. Ear Biscuits is also supported by honey. Oh, we know we're doing a bunch of shopping online especially now and did you know that you can make online shopping even better at? 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So you know we're good get honey four free at join honey dot com slash ear. Let's join honey dot com slash ear. Josh West Asks. How important do I have to be to be assassinated and not murdered? First of all Josh, I want to. Just send my condolences for your untimely. Demise. And I but I, have to point out that it probably has something to do with your twitter handle. With a handle like at Stud of the West. I mean he's in, he's trying to be important I. Think you're I think you're you're trying to bit too hard and it's GonNa it is going to backfire with. Probably, some form of murder. I. Watch out for yourself. Self defense might lead the stood of the West. I. Mean You do you know? Do you think you are out of the West? I just think that's I mean I've never heard of her. And I haven't heard of Josh. And I think if either one existed well, I. Think Josh exists but there's a lot of things existed. I think I would have heard Josh. There's a lot of things that exist that are at least. Going by what my oldest son says to me that are really important and really popular that we don't I don't know about. So, stud of the West may be one of the things that is a big deal in the. West. So he will lift it is then he's got the he's got the he's got the twitter handle but I think the distinction between assassination and murdering is simply political i. Think of the most popular non political person on earth right now. Some pop star or SOM- athlete right. If, if they get if Lebron James Again, not speaking anything to into existence here if Lebron James were killed. You and say, Lebron James assassinated because he's had a political figure I think that they referred to John. Lennon's. assassination. Well. I think it's Shrinking Terada couple of things here. That's strange to me. Is that true? I think we just just google. John Lennon's. Just, well, first of all by Google John Lennon's assassination. And just see if it's a thing. 'cause to me the factors are. If you're if you're killed. For an ideological reason or. To prevent you from accomplishing something. On some on some scale then I think. We might be an incessant nation territory will or if it's if it's done by. While I was GonNa say if it's done by a professional hit on somebody is not an assassination. The wiki entry is the murder John Lennon. Assassination did you google what I did I said John Lennon assassination, and the thing that was suggested was John Lennon assassin so that the person who committed it. A this okay. Someone who kills a public figure if an assassin orders? Yes. It didn't. You were assassinated. I don't actually think there's a distinction. So wasn't an assassin is someone who kills a public figure? In a blink figure somebody who kills a public figure and like a calculated. Way. Like somebody who kills a public figure like a fight. So. An assassin. Can murder somebody or assassinating somebody's he's called the perpetrator wicky and again Wiki as a source for all truth. Murderer, resuscitation attempt to all this this is. Nineteen eighty. A. Again I just think. You have to be a political figure so. Obviously, like if the CIA goes to a foreign land and kills a a leader of a country. That's an assassination if somebody kills a political leader. Winnie nine, not an assassination. If you're a city councilman Google define assassination I think it. Let's figure it out. Because I think that. The president of the PTA. Doesn't murder. You know if you're like the head of the school board. Even in a big city. What is the cutoff? If you're mayor if you're a mayor that's an assassination unless you're like. is elected. So an elected official. I think if an elected official is killed. It's an ID there's an ideological reason or to prevent them from doing something it's a low scale assassination. If who does what? I think if you're. An Asian is the act of assassinating someone. Okay. We got it if I think this I think. Josh if you WANNA be assassinated and not murdered, you just need to join a school board things get. Well and okay this. This is not need to be what you need to be a political figure is I think well, we're arriving at, but this is def- sense. Dot Com or that is. When used as nouns? Assassination means the murder of person especially for political reasons or for personal gain. So. If you like killed someone to get an insurance policy no, that's not as SAS whereas murder means enacted drew deliberate killing of another being especially how important do you have to be you have to be. An elected official, it says, assassination is the act of deliberately killing a prominent. person such as a head of state or head of government. And ask the nation may be prompted by political military motives I beginning we need an example of just like an athlete being assassinated was Martin Luther King Junior sassa definitely one hundred percent. Okay. I. Know It was it was it was because. He's the leader of a political movement was he's a leader of a political moment. Movement he wasn't an elected official, but it was a political I could be described as a political move. Yeah. So. Come up with another example then if an athlete or a pop, Star. Is doing something if they're killed ideological Bill Gates. Oh, he's an old. That's what he did. so He's a philanthropist. That would be an assassination though because he's doing, he's doing all this. He's doing all this work. Unless you believe that conspiracies doing all this work. He's doing all this work to give everybody the mark of the beast vaccination to hell what he's doing because it's fun to believe that help people. So if he's murdered in order to prevent that. The Nelson assassination. But again that's that's socio-political. It's a it's a social thing. Yeah. Now, the start of the West again. Congratulations on the title. There's couple of things about this study implies prominence importance coolness probably good look inness West implies a a region to the left of the rockies. Yet by the left of the. Mississippi Mississippi because I mean east of the rockies still technically to west. But the West implies a geopolitical a my mind when you say the West I, think he's talking about the American West. So this is a geopolitical title. The Stud of the West is like the best looking coolest most athletic dude. In this geopolitical region and as you know, what is he doing if you're good looking if you're a good athlete? You know the chances of becoming. A prominent politician leading political movement go way up. So I would say, yeah, Josh if you're killed, it will be clearly an assassination. Just. By virtue of your twitter handle. At Lecture Hello Alexandra. Oh. What are the chances that this was not planned? I'm wearing the pin. The Alexandra made for me of Barbara's face. This is how you wear that a lot I haven't won on the podcast in a long time and we're taking questions. Does everyone have a voice inside their head when they're writing or reading. Is that what my voice actually? Sound. Is that what my voice actually sounds like or is this what I think? My voice sounds like. Is it even my voice I. Don't know if I if I relate to this because I do not have a voice that I'm hearing when I'm reading. I just feel like I'm taking the words directly to the language center of my brain and a not I don't feel like I'm translating them into a voice unless I'm reading a fictional book at which point the character may adopt some sort of voice imaging. Reading words like reading this and auto biography you hear the person who's reading it like when I was talking about the flea autobiography I hear him of course especially because of his writing style but yeah, right. But, if you're just reading like an email an email, don't you? Do you hear the person? We'll. See. See when he's asking, you hear yourself reading it out loud to yourself because he's like is that my voice is this what my voice sounds sounds like or do I have a special inside my head voice? Let me let me just read some stuff here silently. Is Well, now that you're thinking about it now you're it's impossible. Now then I think about it I'm hearing my voice yet reading it to me. Yeah because you're manifesting that. But if you if you hadn't been dislike think don't think pink elephant would you think of the suitcase? Pink Elephant. So you can't do this. You can't say well, enough you're telling me you didn't just picture pink elephant I deliberately didn't. But I ride behind that suitcase was a pink elephant. Slash for a second and I, put it in a suitcase right? which is the same thing that's happened in here. I can I can safely say. That just normal reading of words. And also a militias translate this just thoughts in general like when you're thinking through something. Are you like. Your brain is processing information. Most of the time. And you're making a decision whether or not you're translating that into the English language right? Because the English language is just a proxy for some things that are happening in the world, right? It's just an interpretation, but it isn't. It doesn't actually mean anything directly just represents meaning well, definitely when I'm to take one step back when I'm writing something. I mean definitely an email when I write an email. All right like I'm saying it. For the most part. But that's I think that's A. A style choice. Not Everybody does that some people you can hear you can hear more you can hear some people more than others in their emails. Okay 'cause because some people just they have a writing style I'm not much of a writer. So I think that's what really come. Why do that I'm more of a verbal processor. So when I write some some down to communicate it. A write down what I would say. That were there and then I get in my head I like edit it like crazy. But when you think of when I think Are you like because to me. If I'm really thinking hard I'm not hearing a voice in my head. No, there are. There are times because I. You know I feel like you're most people are thinking about multiple things at once. and. Then if you'd like really focus, you might be I can. Generate like an actual of like. This is the voice saying the thing should do this almost saying what? But and this is why it's going to be really difficult to ever invent the like mind reading device. Think about all the things that have to happen like you have to find a way to interpret someone's thoughts. And then translate them into. Coherent speech that's not even happening in their brain. So how how's that going to happen outside of their brain? I'm I'm sure there's studies where you know you can monitor the language center of the brain when somebody's reading and I, bet you, Betcha there's plenty of people right now who are listening to thinking I definitely hear a voice when I read and when I I mean I've said that I hear a voice my voice when I write more often. But. I guess that you don't. Know I'm saying I can activate that like now that I'm thinking about it like if you're writing an email versus a script when you write the email, do you do you hear yourself not until I read it back you want to read it back. But now when you're writing it not when I'm evaluating, how does this come across it that point I might hear a voice. But I do think that's interesting because I think that regardless of how you know like Elon Musk's neural link. You know how? What is that going to do I think at best We're going to be able to sort of generate. Interpretations of emotions like this person is angry this person is lying this person. is turned on right now but this person is thinking this specifically no way but you but you could probably have. In addition to the the way that the brain centers are being highlighted. Some sort of a that gives a pretty predictable but not. Gives a pretty predictable interpretation of what somebody's thinking. But it won't be like in here's the Senate's related to it, but you'll be but you'll just know based on the question that you're asking are the interpretation that they're the the conversation they're having what they would be saying maybe there are some robot that put it into almost words. Digest Dot. Dot. Org. Dot. UK says the websites that we pull up. When you? Google it is. It's the first thing that comes up. A, new paper published in psychosis. I love that magazine suggests that most people do here an internal voice when they're reading. For those different inner voices, these tended to vary based on the voice of the character who was speaking in a story. Of. It was a text message or email. On the voice of the sender. In. Your hearing voices and you have more than eighty percent of readers. have inner voice but not everyone shares the same narrator while silently reading a book text message or this article to yourself, a voice may emerge from the back of your mind to narrate the sentences. Eighty percent I just okay. I'm not saying I don't believe that but I. Have to believe. That this slows you down. Like taking the time to turn it into a voice doesn't that make it like what about people? Who speed read and I don't do that but there's people who like you can't. You know what? I'm saying like you gotta let go of the the voice I think you gotta let go the voice find a way just to just to let it go directly to. I think is your brain I mean. I'm not convinced I mean you don't think you do but maybe you eighty percent do I said I do when I'm reading something where it's like a character character. or it might be, but it's not but maybe I'm misinterpreting this are you saying that it's like? The entire thing is being spoken by somebody that you're hearing in your head. Or is it just like, oh, I got an email from link. I'm loosely associating the words that I'm. Reading on this page with the way that he would say them but it's not a process that so fine tune that like ev it's he might as well be inside my head speaking. Like that is not happened to me, I'm kind of twisted because. Every single time I get an email like if I don't know the person I've got an email from or if I'm reading an article I, I don't I. Think I only hear a voice when I know who it is. Exactly, and even then what I'm saying that it's like a touch and go kind of thing. I get lost in eventually move beyond the person's voice just to the content. See I'm reading this freaking article right now and I'm here myself read it to myself. I gotta go back to. that. Yeah. I can turn it off. It's very comforting. What what the person's cell like. ME. You've really stumped us here Alexandra. Well we've been, we've been stopped left and right here today but. It's been fun. kind of like indulge in conspiracy theory and I wonder if listening to audio books which I do more more. Makes this more likely or less likely? You would think that as it make it more likely. To get into this place where I'm just taking him books as people's voices. Only it seems like the easy study is somebody you hook somebody's brain up. You. Let them read but a microphone, and then you let them listen to somebody talk and see if the same part of the brain lights up I. You know it's Within the language center I duNNo. Let's do that. Thanks for making us think about this stuff. I'm exhaust you know. Sometimes, that's all you can do is just think. You know. You stuck at home. You're not going out to the restaurants. You you're not hugging people had senior parents just try to go within yourself and discover something just just listened to that little voice that you hear constantly while you're reading. Or go outside and play with something. You bought ragtime time wreck baby wreck baby one, two, three, four. When we were at the beach, I was reminded. Of this thing this game that exists that I'd forgotten about that I knew about spike ball. Saw I've seen people on the popular now. Yeah. Everybody's playing it. Everybody is so you saying this isn't much of a wreck. No I'm saying it is the game of choice on the beaches. Yes the new, the new cornhole was. I didn't know the name of spike, Spike. Ball. So it's like a Hula Hoop with a net stretched reasonably taught over it, and then it's got four. Legs and you've got this little ball and bat it down. Like serve it, bounce it off, and then you can play volleyball rules. Yeah. Volleyball then you can hit it twice to yourself and then hit back over if you're playing against somebody at least that's how we're doing it at our house she have done the game. I have not mobilized four people in my family to all participants watched I watched a four way game at the beach scenes the most fun and I surmised it was you could not touch it twice yourself Volleyball yet hit it to your partner. I mean it's Lincoln and Landau play even with the age discrepancy they have a good time playing. tetherball. Better tell if you're thinking about getting another ball, don't okay. We need it needs to die tetherball needs to go. We have one. And have used it. Well, there was a poll that we would walk to hook it up and an was less debt. Can't even remember that about only exists. I was Joe payment when it jammed the crap out of my finger. Tells us to accident wait a map. Spike Ball you can. You can get one on Amazon for less than thirty bucks. The whole set that's a pretty good deal you even. If you play five times you paid for the thing you know why? Because he's charged six dollars everytime. Yeah. Oh, you said fifteen dollars or thirty dollars us the thirty dollars. Okay. Six I was right first time. Yeah. So Hey, try it out even with just two people it's still fun and then in in its lightweight, you can take it to the beach. He can't be I. Don't think maybe fits in carrier I. Know It does fit carrier because I was at Dunkin assemble it was on a beach that you had to like walk down the steps to get I don't know I think my thirty dollar one does that and I had it in like a backpacking like broke it out and I was like well, okay. Here we go. Tryout Spike Ball. If you get someone who likes to knock balls with you, it seems to be much more enjoyable when you're intoxicated just based on my experience watching the game. Also harder when you're holding a beer in one hand, I think my kids would concur. Okay. Spike. Ball. Spike it up. Yeah. Look at that Social Disney, thing to get these kids doing something outside for Hell you can do that inside. You could do an inside. Yeah. It gets kind of out of Control I. I wouldn't do that. Don't do it outside don't do an inside. To outside statistic. Just, let me finish. That's it. Do it outside okay as long as you're not alone. Let us know what you thought about the discussion this week, Hashtag biscuit you probably know something we don't because. You were just really give us the. Science, gives the real science on twitter the source of all truth. I want to know if if you hear voice, let's talk about that. Specifically that's an interesting one. Hashtag, air biscuits talk at you next week.

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# 427 - Chris Porter & ME

"Hey guys brand new podcast I. AM in a Hotel Room in Macon Georgia quarantining quarantining quarantining. Let me tell you something I mean people say that quarantine. Until it is it is a corporate imposed. You don't know what quarantining is it is being in a hotel room. Twenty four hours a day. I mean for and I take my I I about. Kobe women are Webinar in ten minutes that I've gotta be therefore. So we'll wrap we'll make this short, I, just WanNa. Thank everyone who came out to the hot summer nights tour. We're going GONNA try to do more of those Oakley can hopefully right now as it looks knock on wood everyone's doing well, everyone's safe and healthy I think our last point of contact with any foreigner I mean the guys had to get on planes so I feel for them for that. But we've been. We were really good. It's so funny. I said this to Halston earlier. I get the sense of like like Oh shit am I doing the right thing around being around too many people the point is we're not around anybody I was saying that the guys at one point I said something on my wife had to go to the DMV and go with Georgia and then go she went to the hospital obviously and And I was like she had way more living in La, which is a spot than I have in. Cape Cod where we are zero contact in and out. So these tours are from my experience very safe. Let's hope they stayed outweigh. Let's hope everyone Nikki. Glaser Hannibal Boroughs Brian Regan there's much people doing these tours now and I'm and they're all going to the same place as I have. So go check him out and have a good summer. Go get outdoors enjoy some comedy. But But yeah, we're we're primarily I. Mean when I say zero contact zero contact are only are only like loose cannons Ron who got to get gas but he's pretty good about it too. So so hopefully, more these the fall I gotta get rid wrap up this thing I'm doing and then and then I'll let you know if we decide to do more dates. But thank you everyone for came out Jersey Philly. Cape Cod Columbus Louisville which I Apologize Kansas City Memphis. Butler pa I mean these were just really really really like amazing shows. As is amazing. Amazing tour. I had a blast. I had an absolute blast with. Thank you everyone for coming out. Today's podcast is with a guy I've been I've been I've been bragging on for ever lately seems like I always bring his name up because he's like. He's just one of those guys like is fucking awesome like the way he does stand up is different than the way other people stand up and you know that's what I hang. My hat on these days is I get I get obsessed with watching people differently a watched a thing. You'll hear it in the read I watched this movie on Bengo the other day and to know that they know and gone were both kind of really time and not appreciated artists and it's because they were doing stuff so different that people could understand it. You look at like that in comedy and you go you know sometimes what's appreciated as easy joke telling 'cause it's a joke. It's like the math is there and there's sometimes you see like a guy like say myself I'm not saying Bangor Gauguin but I'm saying like a strong form storytelling doesn't have a space in open mic comedy someone who has a different voice in open mic comedy doesn't get hurt often even with featuring with hosting definitely with hosting. And it's not until you get the headline where you really get to find your voice. That's why I think these our specials are so important because that is the art form is. Is One hour of comedy I. Remember me as being obsessed with the fact that we we we learned in our and then to go back into thirty, I can do thirty but it's not what I do best or they do an our is called X. at the end that like. The art form is an hour. I watches man do an hour of standup comedy Omaha and I was mesmerized he such. Got Such. Great Rhythm and performance, and and writing writing a so on I I talked about this a little bit. The Way, he, tells the story. Sometimes. When I hear someone tells story, I go those were tricks I I get the tricks you needed to punch up restore you added a trick I do that allows arms. His his stories are not tricks. He is doing an hour on zoom. Wait what is. The exact impo yet his virtual show is gonNA. Be Fifteen bucks on rush ticks dot Com are you as H. T. I. X. Dot Com. August only eight. Twenty eight that is three days from now. So make sure to get tickets go see him. He is absolutely one of the best dudes working and I'm telling you right now it when everything kicked back up, he will be a forty five dollar ticket theaters that is without a doubt his amazing. So we talk a little bit about his friendships with kid, rock and with with with Zach, we talk about Zach Myers, just by. Zach Myers from chinatowns house Zach kind of giving his house when I was in Memphis so you're gonNA love this podcast. He's a great dude. Make sure to see his zoom Gimme the info. Again, it is on the twenty twenty eight at Rush Ticks Dot Com the twenty eighth of August at rush ticks dot com. His name is Chris Porter Ladies, and gentlemen without further ado today's broadcast Chris Porter. What's up Chris. What are? You ready all. Mask world we're living in. I'm losing my Shit Chris. I get your halfway to the car and you're like, fuck my mask. Dude I'm on the road right now and this has been so. It's a you know at first I thought I thought it was responsible on the road. So I was like you should stay at home. Then you're you're you're people are home getting it to their walking around La getting it. So you like fuck is just about being careful is just about and it sucks. But it's also the people want it. They need something to get out of the house in concerts aren't happening and you know you got to do it anyway it can. That's what I said. I mean I think the crowds have been. So appreciative you what you were Justin. Bake. I was amazed but I was just hanging out but I did shows. And it wasn't great but it shows at the American Comedy Club in San Diego and we're literally on the side on a sidewalk like active street like I gotta go by an ambulance Kinda ship. Sweet tell me all the shows. I did I did the first one I did after the quarantine started was Champi and you know the Improv is always been like super well-run. So You know everything was top notch like everyone was wearing masks. They made sure no one came in the Green Room. Someone was always around me to make sure like no one came and talked to me or anything that's great. Japanese I wanted I did one at at. stand-up live. Yeah and it's it's really good. No one came in the green. The most important thing to me is that everyone's socially in the crowd and then there's no contact. For sure and we were fine. We went through and did those shows and we were fine. You want people to be comfortable. Here and I know like especially in the And Probably Arizona, a lot of people are comfortable. Doing whatever But you know there are people that aren't and those those are the people that you really WanNa protect and but then I did Raleigh same deal taking temperatures being responsible You know a couple of times. I didn't wait long enough for the audience to leave before I tried to sneak out the back. So a couple of times like I drunk fans belied gooey Jacob Butcher like they through their arm around me and it's like well. Fuck. Dude. I had some Guy Corona raped me and Semi. Oh Stages Johnson grab fully. Mogi. Bro from. Like. Now, I have to go buck and bad myself and parral. I like as care full as you try to be, you can't fuck and help it is someone's. To your, your jaw. Just up to the whim of the average stranger. Yeah. And you but also that being said, try to be careful I guess. Do. We went to the ozarks on a family vacation and I made the mistake of walking into a McDonalds in the middle of Missouri. And they looked at me like I was the Asshole Kazai, I was wearing a mask. It was I'm a worked also talking about a place where people were open carry weapons. Like it's it's a whole like the ozarks are also that way but the space between Kansas City and the ozarks is fucking and. It's it's cousins dating is what it is and it's fucking weird. the ozarks was the one that was getting let not for the most part. Yeah at that one place and so we were very cool. It was like my whole family. So we just stayed as a family although Mike. Like listen my relatives are super trumpy some of them and their luggage a hoax Mike. Okay. Well, it's a it's a hoax over there. Can you just keep six feet away from me? Let's just say I'm superstitious then. Okay. Let's. Gase. Let's just pretend I'm just lighten it up over here and you stay the fuck away from. Yeah. I know. It's it's really crazy because we went on a family vacation to Arizona the fucking hot bovid really really smart data I am so I was like. I was like. My daughters were like you did the whole you travel the whole country and then get. That there's gotta be safe way to do this and I said, yeah, there is we're GonNa WanNa Bego will stay socially the central do activities that are socially. We got a boat we were on a boat elves never went where anyone else was. Perfect and then was so funny my wife. That we WANNA, jetskis with another family with us, we're on a jet skis and she went to pull up the Jetski and their offense emily x six black kids you know in the mom that were in in front of them in line, and it's all rented from Same Jet Ski Company. So they pulled their jetskis up I in the my wife and a friend, her jetskis up, and then the guy who's got all the Jetskis is also got a van take everyone back to the car and he's like all right ladies get in and my wife's like I'm not getting in there because there are six people in their. Walking he goes. the people I'm. Taking refused to get into the van because the other people are I guess they're black and millions like no. I'm not getting a black I'm getting because there's a fucking pandemic Aachen idiot. But it's A great deal on one of the stops made there was a guy was a fan and we were at a dude ranch and he was. Like Dude Burke is the falcons like how you doing at a mask on and he goes I didn't know you're one of those masks and I was like. God believes in science yeah, Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The guy that realizes he might not know everything about everything. So that is going to take the experts word for it guy who still wore condoms when he lost his virginity because he was afraid that you get aids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that's me. I like most of these no mass people got like dis in high school science. And it's like, of course, you don't think it is because you don't even understand the basics of how shit works. You. Learn that Shit. Yeah I, mean I get like if you live like I'm from the middle of the country through this majority of the tour. And I, get it a man get it not wearing a mask and being outside and being distant from people. I get all that I get going on my show like we're doing drive INS and I. Being in your car with your family and not knowing where to mask in the audience because you don't need to do is you like fucking twenty feet away from the next person I get all that I get all of that is just it's being in public places like walking into a gas station and not wearing a mask and I'm like come on Bro like, yeah you gotta realize that if anyone's getting it at you and by not wearing a mask, you're just spreading it as much as you can. Yet but also realize that you don't know everything. You know, respect. Respect. What you don't know a lot of people are just like. It's not gonNA be that way how why they're I? Don't know because I think so. What was it like? What was it like for you? THE FIRST TIME STAGE It was. You ever not snow skied in a long time, and then you just hop back on the mountain. So. You're like I kind of remember how this goes but holy fuck it's going a lot faster than I remember. Exactly, what it feels like you like him and I'm going pretty quick bugging. Crop Works. So Plow snowplough snow well. Yeah man and you're like I used to be able to turn you can't turn a can't turn. Tree Tree Tree. I still have forty minutes left. My whole I tore I did is swear to God Chris I would get to would get to thirty five minutes and I'd be like I'm done like all of it is it too early to start the machine maybe I'll tell stories. Maybe do the machine twice. Do I my that is exactly what happened is like every night I got thirty five minutes. I was like I've told all my new ideas. I've been doing a Q. and A. I mean I always do a Cuban a usually during the checks. But like it's been a lot long, it's been more of a press conference. All meeting just like. Are you sure. No more questions. Come on I'll give you a second just think what? Can you guys can you guys make your questions longer? Please I really appreciate that if you tell me a story about how you got to your question that would really help me out. Oh Dude. It's crazy my first time onstage I. Got Up loose loose when you're confident and you get up at the store somewhere and you're like I'm a fuck around for a little bit and I started bucket around and just real quick panicked and was like I. Don't know where this is going and I don't know I really don't know what like normally and I I I don't make other people that aren't comics notice like. Normally. When you fall agree always having out in your brain like I can go I. can go here and I just didn't have my out I didn't know where to go and then I stumbled and then I've got my out and then I. Would like wait what's this connected to and mother fucker the whole time. Yeah. That's that's what I struggled with you. I know there's more to this I remember it goes somewhere and then like five minutes into your act because what I, what I, what I think a lot of people don't know about stand up is will. Whatever saying worth thinking? Five jokes ahead of that. So we don't we're not really knowing the words that come out of our mouths. So that's why a lot of people are like when you get interrupted, you're like what the fuck was talking about 'cause you generally don't remember where you were in the bit, but like I would be like, okay, what's the next line we're coming to it? We're coming to it Bale Bale Bale. Sorry goose like. and then yeah and I but I was real cool. When it what was really cool I I mean I'm always really cool. But I got up on stage. I was like look I haven't done this shit in eight weeks. So there is definitely a joke or two that are gonNA come up and I'm just GonNa say that's the end of that one 'cause I generally don't remember how it goes and I did it and the audience thought that was funny just because I called my shot. Yeah Yeah. It's like. It was fucking. Shit. I i. came up with my first new bit. My I knew that I loved and Like the other day at Fuckin- Zach's household enough. I want to talk about Zach for a little bit but. I came up with a bit Zach's house. We were eating lunch on his back porch and Again the bit knows I'm GonNa tell them on stage tonight and then I told him I was agent fucking murdered that feeling I haven't had that feeling in. So long like, yeah enormously that's a feeling that shows up like once a month we like I. got it. Figured out another joke figured it out I'm like God damnit this trip has been not I tour. I did has been all trying to figure out my legs again and this one's been Oh, I'm back I'm writing. I. Love this is what I do. My problem is I'm losing my voice like crazy like I'm losing my voice so quickly. Yeah. Just because it's not it's not warmed up or it's not in shape is on shape and it. Really. It's like you lose your voice at the beginning of the year when you start your tour and then you gotta get it back and then you just get you get you get your work arounds I'm in screaming. Like. Every like all my fucking bits are loud shit and so and then I also. Valley or a cavern whenever I do shows so. I run by tones probably but Dude Zach Myers is a fucking God. Yeah, he's. He's a really good dude for how long can you own? Zach was it thirteen I think? They were making a record I. Think was threat to survival. So maybe it's fourteen or fifteen, but Yeah he hit me up on twitter and was like, Hey, man I'm in town I'm at this band. That only semi heard of. And he was like he was like a big fan but I also think. We'd get along and so we met. And I. Yeah. Like after that after that breakfast, I was like I'm known this dude way longer than I've known this do like it just kind of clicked and we've been friends ever since. So Zach for everyone who doesn't know is the guitarist of shinedown. Yeah and he's got other bay. He's got I mean he's an interesting guy I wanted to hide them. But I'm fascinated he's been in music since he was like fourteen. Yeah, he was a child guitar prodigy like he was in that. He actually went on tour with Jani Lane Kenny Wayne Shepherd. So he's like in that realm of fucking Young Guitar Secca just. Shred away like he's played with. BUDDY GUY and B. B king and all these dudes he can just. Yeah. Got So. Crazy like I. You know I met him. I met him I think through you. We were doing a show together and he was like. for Ovarian Cleveland and he was like, Hey man I'm Zach. Porter and I was like Oh cool. Immediately I was like, all right this guy's normal man. And we started just texting back and forth about like barbecue and and. And then he found out that we were we were in Kansas City and I think he thought we were in Memphis at the time and he was like, Hey, man, my house them do you want it? It's yours and I was like. In my hand on like Oh this must be like a like a a tax haven for right. He's got a house here and he never used it and he's like get some use out of it. And so we're like, oh, we're in Kansas City as like. Aren't that you'RE MEMPHIS MEMPHIS tomorrow go take my house. My and will help you get in. It's great. We pull up I'm sound asleep on the bus I wake up at like noon. We're already there we get an, it's a fucking home it's where he lives with his family. He gave him his. Own Me like some tax haven his home and then he's Eat everything in the fridge just use the pool, the PODCAST, my guitar room checkup sneaker thing. I'm. Going like crazy. Trying to be respectful to them not to in any videos and the as we're about to leave Tex Joe thank you so much and. He was like I've been waiting you to put a video up about my shoes or something. Some of these like I thought you do some is. So funny. I was being respectful. 'cause I thought your wife would get pissed he was like sitting in a funk and I'm like everyone. Back into the House I was like. Yeah. And what's funny? I. Was there like three days four days before you got there yet what if you guys have been like flying around the country e? Yeah, we We have a friend WHO's done very well for himself and I just you know my whole August got cancelled in like one day and so I just texted mark and I was like Hey I'm gonNA come up Green Bay, just get out of the heat and he's like come on man and then all the sudden he was like all. Well, we're going to vegas that we can. And so that kind of morphed into while I'm just going to go to Memphis and hang out with that and then marks just gonNA come pick us up on his way to Bagasse and He's a lot of fun to hang out with in Vegas 'cause he stays in the in the mansions of the MGM so like he's got a pool that's got like eight people and. His friend. He owns grocery stores in Wisconsin lie a bunch. And is just buddies also just great normal dude. He doesn't. He just talks to you like he doesn't make all that money, but also your in his giant house. That's gone easy and so and Zach you know is also that guy so we all just kind of hanging out and so we've I. We've had that kind of weekend before. So I was like it's kind of a risk reward words like. Do I WANNA flying private jet and have a free room at the MGM yeah. I'll do covert for that like sure. Why not? Ended up going to Phoenix for a little bit because so I never even made it to Green Bay nor did I get out of the heat it actually just got way hotter. So, and then I just flew back here from Phoenix and But yeah, it was a fun weekend but a Nice Day. And But yeah, it wasn't. You Know Vegas isn't normal. Vegas so. was kind of a low key like let's go to Vegas eat nice and then we'll just hang out in your giant room and. Make Jokes and play guitar and that's kind of what we ended up doing how you. You. Click I'm always interested by people who have. Interesting friends like it's one of the things that I always found fascinating about Subaru is. He has a very eclectic group of friends that. I have a really hard time being friends with the famous person like I just I always assume they want something from me or I don't know why why they WANNA. Hang out with me it's always been like. Tough for to compartmentalize or to reach out I have a hard time reaching out to people. How do you? Want to get to the bottom of like friends because. Did you did you have a lot of friends growing up or did you were you a guy that have always like had friends and then? As you got older, you're good friends with kid rock. You're good friends with Zach you're good friends with these very. Different people that maybe I would meet and I would go. Hey, it's nice. Meeting you and then I would I just distanced myself. I think sometimes well, like as a kid I had a lot of friends. I guess. Like I wasn't unpopular. I was popular also bullied a little bit but then I realized that's how I got. My sense of humor was like if you make the joke I. And bully dumb. So it's like fucking eight police. I hate bullies. and. Luckily you know I played football in high school, and so I was protected by the upper class like they would literally be like if you have any issues whatsoever, you let me know. And so so luckily. Football. Kinda also save me and then you know by the time I, was a junior or a senior like it wasn't an issue. So And then as far so. I had a big learning moment at the Improv one night. With raw as far as being cool around celebrities. We I was with Anthony Clark and a friend of mine. It was during the last comic standing stuff and we went outside because they were having a cigarette and we came back in and Robin. Williams was in our seat. And we didn't know who it was just a gray haired man from the back. So my friend taps on the shoulder excuse me, sir we were. Sitting, here and turns around it's fucking Robin Williams, and he just goes right into Robin Williams old was already Blah Blah Blah and like knows Anthony Clark. Does like four minutes of Robin Williams stick in front of my ice and then the whole time like my dad's. My Dad's friends brother and Robin William's brother aren't like own a winery together and that's all I was trying to get out of my mouth but I was so fucking starstruck nervous. Has. Like. I could not make words to save my life and I just walked away from that experience I don't ever. Just take a breath and if you can't speak don't speak. And so then a few years later Nick Thune was going to be on the tonight show with the Black Crowes and invited me to go but I got your friends with him too. So we have like a three but I had like a three hour window to kind of freak the fuck out and like devise a plan of approach when I met these dudes and I was just like I'm GonNa. I'm GONNA hang out. I'm going to speak when spoken to, but I'm not going to make unnecessary words and then that paid off dividends like Oh if you just act like a normal person around these people. then. Day that's all they're looking for. They just want to be treated like a normal person. And so if you hang out with them and you're not like woo, what were you thinking when you wrote, she talks to angels like what was that like? That's all they want So And I learned a from that and and so and the funny thing about meaning Kid rock is that. He was also getting back before I get into. That is like if you are on stage day already kind of have respect for you because they know you can language in speak from a perspective they no. Yeah, and so with kid rock. I got booked on his cruise and then found out through Steve like Steve Trevino hung out with him a few weeks prior to the cruiser was like he did like three of your bits. And quoted you. And so then I knew like he was a fan. So then that kind of I wasn't nervous also, I wasn't. Like Meeting Kid rock for me was not like meeting. Chris Robinson didn't have nearly that significance. So. That being said, bobby who it is kid rock's real name is one of the coolest dudes on the planet. and also we don't agree on anything politically. Big But. We know at we agree on how to have a good time and I think that's all you really need to agree on in this world I guess that should be fucking example for everyone I'm how to get along these days. Yeah but that that takes. A maturity on both sides. You know what I'm saying like where you're like, Hey, man I don't. Understand read come from on a lot of this ship but I genuinely like hanging out with you. And you don't order Weird Shit at dinner. So let's have a good time you. Don't have a thirsty nece about you where you're like an I, know this from being friends with both of you is that your guys overly taxed I mean we all know those guys in the business. who come off like very like. Him, Anna just. All happy Thanksgiving you know how you and your family are doing. You're like you're doing a business thing with me you're not trying to be genuine. Like I haven't talked you literally all year and now I've said your name so much in I actually said your name last night I was talking about last night. I was saying I was saying like you're gonNA. No. I know I was just saying sidebar. I have I have brought you up so many fucking times. Lately, just, random. Night, I said we were talking about guys. Who we were talking about guys who? vid fought guys who would be doing theaters next year because of their touring and how it's going. To be blowing up on that and I said, it's Chris border. I said I guarantee you he would be doing theaters of beginning of January January. He would start at theatre tour and it would sell out immediately I without a doubt and I said. In a weird way. That he is going to make his going to make some clubs so much fucking money when the clubs open back up because he you already should be out of clubs. It's really interesting to me like what what's what's going on cove is like I'm fascinated the people fascinated people who? Got An opportunity to jump up to theaters. Right when Kobe hit like fuck now, I gotta only in a weird way that momentum's gone and then other guy like you go your your momentum knock on you're the guy that is like when it comes to stand up you're like Your farmer strong. You know what? I mean. Yeah. Like you got like ever meet farmer in there. fucking strongest Shit and you're like you're out like another just who I am. So. You're just getting that extra time for one more run clubs literally and I I can't say this enough. One of the funniest dudes are business without a fucking doubt. and. You're writing your writing is inspiring to me how you go through and tell a story and. I wish I could do that better. The way you can very seamlessly. Tell a story. That that is. Is Not. It's not like it's not like. Like. It's not like, Hey, Bob the Russian mafia. This is my story as a this happened to me and my sister or whatever, and all sudden everyone was like goddamn great story you know like well, it was just It's Thanksgiving and you're like what? The fuck like I love that man I. Love that. Our thanks bad. Yeah. I work real. You know a lot of it's just. I work real hard on just only telling you what you need to know to get the joke and then telling you the Joe can move in on. It's really fucking great man dance man really great. What what, what are you thinking about like with with specials and whatnot? Are you ready for the next one? I'm at about forty minutes right now saw twenty minutes short. I think that's what has I mean obviously, financially it sucked but. I've been. Fortunate I was fortunate enough to be smart with my money leading up to it. So like I haven't, I'm fine in that sense, but it's really curbed my writing because I don't. I don't really WANNA write too much quarantine material because when the clubs do reopen. That's all you want's GonNa be talking about and I. It's the last thing that audiences are going to wanNA listen. 'cause they're like, all are finally out of it, and now we're GonNa talk about it all the time. it's like you know breaking up with a girlfriend and then she her calling you and still telling you all your problems. and. So and but it's also hard for me to write I don't write about politics So it's hard for me to write about life when there is a one. So I, it's really curbed my writing in that sense i. also have a notebook full of Shit, I wrote at the front of the quarantine that I haven't had time to. Give it, give it legs simply because like you said. Most of the time when I'm I'm doing so few dates that when I do the dates, I'm just trying to get my legs back and put on the best show I can. I can't I don't have the availability to like give an audience to take ten minutes to try new bit. It might not work because. I just I'm not. I'm not in shape like that. Yeah. 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Still as Zimbabwe by Buffalo Trace distillery ninety proof Franklin County Kentucky Buffalo Trace American family owned an independent. I got lucky. I got lucky because I don't know I. Don't know but I have this like panic that it's all away. So I, always whenever they offer me a Gig I, take it I go. Yeah. Yeah and they they got me another tour starting in February starting at the end of January and I had just. Spent November and I was like I GOTTA Bust my ass yet new materials throw into the store every night wrote a time and then got on the tour and those first few days were a little bumpy. Only material and I I wasn't. Really there. Then when I by the time I got to. New York in DC I was like I got this hour and then Cova de and I was like. Whereas I think a lot of guys were like, Hey, I'm cool staying home. I don't really have any material I need to clubs to open before I can start doing it. Get me into a let's figure something out because I have an hour and I'm ready for it, and then I I don't have an hour I thirty five fucking minutes. Yeah. I got offered a half hour during this shit and I turned it down. Where Filming Shit I. Don't I didn't I didn't get the specifics of it I mean my agent was basically like he was telling me we were GONNA, turn it down but even when he said it to me, I was like, yeah no also it's like my forty minutes is forty minutes like I can't Trim Tan out of it. Yeah, you know what I'm like. I would I wouldn't know what to take out there pretty by stories have gotten pretty lengthy at this point. So it's like, yeah, I could either I offered thirty minutes before I did secret offered a thirty minute deal and I was like. I doesn't. That's I. think that's really good for some comic. Some comics really is better for I think but for me my art form as the hour and that's what I'm better at. If. You said Hey I'll give you ten minutes. Maybe I could do one bit. You know or one chunk of what is but it's really interesting to me when I see like shit on anyone but I wanna see young comics that get specials very early and You see that they've never really done an hour that they don't know how an hour works that you can't bring up a subject move on. Then come back to that old subject again when you need it, 'cause you're running dryer material and then go back to something else and then go back to like it's like I'm so. It's such a disservice. To comics growth. To give them too much too early and so many people don't do well with it. I. Mean. If you look at the numbers last comic standing, what how many of the are you? How many of their are you left like? Did you ever think of that? Very true My season. Yeah. I. Mean also like they can still be working in New York and I just don't say like with Roz G. and Michele Balan like I'm just not in their scenes so they might still be working but I haven't seen him around here again that doesn't mean they're not working I just. I Tie Barnett I. See every once in a while, Josh is still killing it. And then But and then Gabriel was on my season. So yeah, he's doing. Okay. All right. I mean really it's kind of interesting fraternity to be end I saved Tony. I'm sure that's a hate crime now but but the interesting group to be in. Because all of us all of us. All of tried to be in that I mean we all tried to. There's only a few of you that got there. and. And even furthermore, there's only A. Handful, it's got to be more but like that are working and moving and doing shit. Yeah and it's I mean. While you got to look at well, sale is last comic standing. Elisa Elisa Schumer. gave. Didn't need last comic he was doing it just to crossover. So I, I, guess, you didn't count that am I don't even remember here's a I don't remember who is in some of the later seasons. So it's it's hard for me to. Really get into the last season I remember. Ralphie. Ralphie faulk. Voss boss. Gary Goals. Early early signs. Above McFarland John Hatred. my season Bill Dwyer still doing real well. April macy's doing really well on the road. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe maybe every maybe it's like the the opposite is like there's only a few people not doing well, you know those maybe that's the anomaly. Yeah. I mean it's most people sustain. Oh, John Again. Oh Yeah I just texted him last night. You WanNa. Talk about a fucking brilliant writer dude. Can I tell you? I texted him last night last night I said. I said, please get back into stand up because he gave it up. He gave it up entirely really oh, he hung it up. He was done. He was done. Didn't want it didn't WanNa do it job Did a Sitcom enjoyed riding enjoy being at home and I want to say I'm speaking for him and I I shouldn't but I wanNA say his chick makes a good not like yeah she's like an executive or something. So he was like, what am I doing on the road like one of my hustling for a good standard I o he knows he's a good standup, but he's like this fucking. Job just take the other route. And I texted him last night and I was like. Please, get back into stand up a literally I swear to God I said, please get back in the standup and then he wrote so funny. I started doing a bunch of gigs and then the world shut down don't worry it'll be back but he is. I remember I, worked with him at Penguin's in Iowa and he was a little kid and he was playing. Or the Quad Cities Quad Cities Nan used to run that club back. The Casino next thing you know Oh God. You know who hosted for me there. Joe Millionaire. is up like he went on a tour where we he hosted for these comedy shows. And it was just it was basically like doing comedy at a Chippendales Club is what it was. So funny I remember the week before Mike. EPPs had been there and my gaps wasn't happy with the with the club and I guess words paycheck and he said at the enemy show on on fucking Sunday night was like you know what? Fuck this club don't pay your bills, get up and leave and everyone did and they were like Holy Shit. But and get back to John Again, not only was he a brilliant writer his voice was so unique. Yes why it's it's one thing to be a brilliant writer and kind of sound like somebody else. But there was no one sounded like Johnny. Do you know what he? He'd you know he was the first guy that I realized like you think you're good and you you're good in La. You're you're. You're like one of the young comics and then you like on the road you're like I got this dialed in like no one's GonNa step on my shit I I'm I'm I'm the man I'm headlining. He went up into twenty minutes of such original material at that came out of nowhere and like I said, he was a looked like he was like fucking thirteen. He destroyed so hard that I had a hard time following him. So realize I don't ask jokes like I don't know what got, but he's got jokes I remember one of the jokes he said is I to strip club and I had a less than attractive stripper and she said, what would you like me to take off I? Guess Know How what my glasses? I. Such a voice and then I, said to him. Hey did you watch my set and he goes oh no I actually and he wasn't being Rubio's I. Don't Watch Comex because I find that when I do I Start picking up their rhythm intonations. So I try to stay away from all all comics and he was, I, don't mean a disrespectfully and I was like. Literally smart and I'm like, maybe I should stop watching so much tell. Okay. All right. Yeah. I remember the first time I ever headlined was GO BANANAS IN CINCINNATI. And I, remember sitting at the bar with Mikey. Ed. The night before the shows and I go WHO's my future looked he goes his name's John Evans and he's going to blow your fucking doors. And? He and he Definitely. Made Me Work John Evans is Also a great writer and one of those dudes I moved out to. La. What you know and I'm sure you know a bunch of them. A bunch of amazing comics that just came out here and said now fuck it. I'll just go work a regular job and do comedy every once in a while. Yeah. you know what I'm GonNa be real honest with you. Sometimes I n those mother fuckers. You know it's so funny. I remember talking to a guy. I won't say his name only because he knows who he is but I remember talking to a guy. And we were During his city in Ohio and I said to manage. So funny why don't you move to La and they see no I, love my city. So, what he is I love my sports teams I grew up here. I don't need I don't need fame I just need to make a living and I can do that on the road and then live in the city. He goes I got a great house. My wife's got a great job, and if I have kids I want them to grow my family and I was like. How are you so well rounded like what what do you mean like like even now when you see everyone fucking moving everyone's On getting text every day every fucking day from another comic no-one. Hey Man I'm out. Yeah. I'm jealous. I'm really jealous that I don't. I'm jealous for number reasons. I'm jealous because I don't have that I. Don't have that possibility at all at all to go somewhere. I don't have the we don't have that. You know with both my girls are in high school. So you can't like pull them out of junior high school absolutely not and then you're like. I mean last night just to. You know I don't know how much this will be shared in my life but we had an accident, our house last night My wife got up and fell really bad and her teeth went through her lip and she was knocked unconscious and there was blood everywhere and then she woke up. And she was like freaked out and then this morning called me went back to bed this fucking woman she's so stubborn. But. Living, in L. A.. Through my lip, it's fine. I'll just ice it. She put a band aid on it. She's put a band aid on it and then called me this morning and was crying and was like. I think going to hospital I don't know, and then she's like, I, got all this shit going on I need help and I. It's so nice to live in a commune to know your friends know your neighbors start hauling doctors that you know and like I don't know if I moved to Austin if I would have that circle of friends where you could be on the road and go. Hey. Let me take care of everything from here and I know our veterinarian I know nothing about we have one of our dogs that. But. No. act. By sisters are there I mean it's an ill-timed mansion but yeah but but I'm jealous of like Steve Byrne I think Steve Burns moving to Nashville and you're like, yeah, you've got young kids faulk. I talked to Tim Dillon he goes I don't even have apartment right now like I'm just fucking floating around and you're like, God like. Must Be Nice. You know. Yeah I. I've loved Los Angeles since I was fourteen like we came out here by aunt and Uncle Day or for for like ten years now flew out here in immediately was like why the fuck don't we live here it's January it's seventy five degrees. There's an obvious palpable energy in this city that I can feel so. I I wouldn't. I would put a probably moved out here at least for a little bit. No matter what industry I got it. Yeah and. A lot of people literally came out here simply to have a career and there's no career to be had here right now. And also I think a lot of people are starting to figure out. You know this has been a time of self reflection where you kind of look around and go what the fuck am I doing. Anything. And if it doesn't make you look around and it doesn't make sense than yeah. Absolutely. I understand a lot of people leaving town I, I, kind of called it especially. Listen. If this would have gone down five years ago maybe even three years ago about now I'd have to be like I'll be back but I have to go home. Block out of I'm at a place now where like I'm fine. I'm getting up gigs here and they're also you know money off your records, the mailbox money helps and it's you know I'm learning but yeah, I It's but yeah, a lot of kids a lot of a lot of the dudes of the comedy store especially. Have Day jobs in Hab Shit, and if that shit goes away, they were already paycheck to paycheck. Those paychecks go away man. You gotta go somewhere. And I think it's it's. It's GonNa be thin when we when we pick back up, it's going to be real thin. Yeah. For a lottery I mean it's it's. And you start thinking like. Shit. Like you know. If. I there I mean I'm not that far out of. You know in my life of like going I need to reassess shit because like I'm I'm okay now but like I may not have been. A. To maybe like four years ago I definitely five years ago I would have been fucking screwed and with kids would like what the fuck my doing. Even this you know when this started i. We we bought a house and we were going to do it. And I was like fuck that I can go. A luxury. You don't get that luxury. We have this property. It's not that much will on that property, and then if we'd sell that property, we'll just sell that property but let's just stop everything. and. It's amazing that perspective here's what I also think. Everyone's leaving right I've never felt like. I've never felt like. I deserve to call myself someone who lives in Los Angeles. Los Angelino. I've never felt like I've earned that like you look at like Jack Nicholson and and and and like Leonardo DiCaprio going to Lakers Games. Look at Spike Legal Nets Game Knicks game, and you're like. Yeah those guys earn those US thirteen us our city I like. When all this shit clears up. I am definitely earned the right to like I might get lakers, tickets like folk. City like when everyone leaves and I decided to stay in pay all the bucket bullshit taxes that we have to pay nine get phone I'm GonNa Start Watching cal nine all every fucking day. You know when I decided well, I was in an Uber and the guy was a unicorn someone actually from La. He goes how long have you lived here and I was like I think at the time it was twelve years he was like up. No, you're an Angelino. He was like you've lived here law like if you get past ten years, you're here I. If you can stay three Kovin then you really earned Oh thousand percents that being said I will I will never root. For the angels. I will always root for the royals I won't root for the chargers or the hour for the rams because they're NFC. But that's why for the dodgers 'cause there are now but yeah. Yeah. Always going to be a Kansas City sports guy though I wonder what it's GonNa do to the fucking rams the rams just built that new stadium and just sold season tickets to everyone three years ago I wonder what is going to have fucking stadium well, I mean. It's what what are they going to tear it down? It's going to survive. It's just GonNa there. There's to be maybe a change of hands of ownership depending on. What you know how they did it. And you know I don't know I think there's a everything's going to go back to normal eventually I mean. Our city is going to have what do you think? Do you think our cities populations going to be affected at all? Yeah it's going to be reduced. Not but then as soon as it goes back to normal, people are gonNA come back. The whole industry isn't going to leave. It might dispersal little bit and it might change how much property they need you know, I? Think there's probably going to be a lot more working from home, but you're still they still have these studios. We still have all this shit and they solve all this shit to shoot. So like they're not gonNA stop making movies in Los, Angeles So like it might take longer than you want it to but it might not be next year but most likely by twenty two I think we're at concerts full capacity again, all that shit if for no other reason than people are gonNA say fuck it. I've already added four times I'm fine. Like I want to see slayer. Yeah I I mean, that's that's what I love about these drive-ins is you know people are so appreciative that you're giving them a safe option to go out I wish they were more. I was toying around with the idea of buying a drive in movie theater. and. And setting up shop for comics and going. Like, let's do show like set it up perfectly like the way. I know it should be done I. Mean I'm Chris I, can't tell you I'm such a fucking Aficionado. On drive and move with right now like I can tell you I could make a run for I could set up a tour that. Comics would lose their fucking minds over and be like these are the greatest shows I've ever done in my fucking life without a doubt and there are some that are not ideal. Even the ones that aren't ideal. You go like Tulsa Right Tulsa drive in is right next to an interstate. So as you're doing shows, people are driving at seventy miles per hour and by you. Goddamn. If that wasn't the greatest show I've ever done in my life it was the way they sit system like they sent him close to the stage. Yeah. I fucking swear to God I want to start touring company just to drive ins like, yeah man there's so much fucking on. I Love I of the fact that you're on a tour bus is like my dream and I'm so. Glad. That Shit and But the wind I saw the show where like there was lightning in the background and stuff like that like that. You're like, fuck? Yeah. That's how you can do is show dude dude that was that was in was a memphis. Oh really. Oh Yeah. Was the other night and it was just They lightning was within seven miles. So they go hey, we're GONNA hold it off. It's GONNA go right over US but at once it goes over US it'll be like thirty minutes were good. So it sprinkled thunder and lightning by the way no one in this country carrot gives a fuck about lightning at all. If they don't go fucking about lightning, they definitely don't care about. Kobe. Like. Lightning goes over US and then it gets on the other side and stage I'm getting pulled up to the stage and I'm seeing A. Learning storm behind the stage it is so beautiful and I'm like I like Larry is this safe and he goes you're fine assignment hitting the ground. It's definitely miles away you're fine get on an it is I'm on stage and I can feel the background lighting up behind me I'm like I keep I'm like onstage going police say someone's filming like getting wide shots of this. This is so beautiful absolutely were they oh, God did I show you the tour about the picture they gotta the tour bus with meals age Oh, my God, and take. A look at this. Okay. Tell me. Citizen. Gay Hold on Komo. Fuck. That's awesome. That's crazy booking. Your fucking next album cover. It's I'm like. It's it's been. It's been really interesting, and then you know yesterday we paid some guy to throw batting practice to us. So he took batting practice in the fucking it's. Him I'm hemorrhaging money but but it's been funny shit. It's pandemic who isn't Right, hey I wanted to talk to you about getting hit in the head with a golf ball. Okay I never I never knew that. I saw the picture that scar and I was like holy, Shit. Yeah, it's So I was playing golf with my mom I was seventeen. And was about. Was July Fifteenth and fucking. Yeah. I was waiting for her to hit and all the sudden. This I just got hit my head hurt a lot and I remember when I got hit to this day. I remember I saw a vision of a ball getting hit off the cheek. And then I went down. I don't know if I was out for maybe a second or two, but it wasn't very long and I got back up. And I just gotten context I. Knew I was out for because mom was here then all the sudden she was here. And I just got in context when I'm holding my head my mom that I was just dealing with that. And, she's like what's up and I was like I got hit. This old man comes around. It was I got dog lake. So he didn't know he'd done it. And he comes around looking for his ball and I just. I rolled my mom's car and I've still never seen her as angry as I saw. She went complete grill on this to. Are and It ought to seventeen. So I thought I was bulletproof and invisible. So I was like I'm fine. It's just keep playing. parred the whole was doing alright play by five more holes, and then like the headache got a lot worse and. Went home and not knowing much about head injuries. As I'm just GONNA take a nap sleep number one thing to do. As. Well. As last night and just put a band aid or Lithuania back to bed way to go. Still, I called my buddy to tell the stories like man you don't sound right. And I was fine and then the headache got like three times whereas so we went to the hospital. And I just remember getting into the triage desk and the girl goes what's wrong and I just threw up all over the desk for real ed by the way if you do that you get right Ed, there's no way. and. So. We we go in and I get cat scans or whatever, and the the doctor comes in and I just found out later I just. So happen to go in when the number one neurologist in Kansas City was on call. Ed So he comes in and he's like any so called about it. He goes, Hey, man This is what's happened when the ball hit you it cracked your skull and it causes your brain to believe in. The, blood has started a clot between your brain in your skull. And he goes swinney to get in there and get the blood clot and he but he just said it like that I was like well, if I have the surgery Kinda play football because it was my senior year started in two weeks. And he was like no and I was like well, then why don't we just wait till the end of the season and have the surgery then so I can play and he goes no no no, you don't understand. If you don't have the surgery right now the blood will continue to clot around your brain and you will die one of the most painful death anyone's ever died ever. By tomorrow. and. Then, I was just like, why are you even giving me the option? Then why are we even doing? A, why aren't we just doing this? And so I was like obviously, we're having the surgery. So we go in and then I just wake up. I don't know eight nine hours later with A. Helmet and dads sit next to me and I spent. Two days in intensive care two days in the regular hospital and then I got released. And ended up having you know got had to go to school. Three weeks later with a six stitches across my dome. AM. Still what they did was they drilled out a piece of my skull and use three wires to hold it in place while the bone fused back together and then obviously the wires fused into. But. One of them had like a little bit of slack in it where I like Boob it and it would click in my head right but I thought only I could hear it. So. I kind of did it when I was thinking or I was nervous. I was taking a test one day. It was super quiet and I'll just clicking away and finally the girl next to me looks ratios does anyone else here the fucking clicking sound Say. No, I don't hear anything Oh and then yeah and it took a while to heal and. I went through a pretty mad. They don't tell you that you go through a pretty major depression after a head injury I didn't find out to like seven years later. but yeah, I, just thought I was sad because I was. Eighteen. But Yeah it was. It was it was rough but. I was L- it. It changed my like I'm so glad it happened because it changed my life for the better at the time. I had already kind of sort of committed to naval rotc like starting that paperwork. And then I was going to try to apply. I would not have gotten him but I was going to apply to the Naval Academy and I would have finished officers school just in time for nine eleven. Oh my God and that being said I would have been in the navy. I would most likely been fought. But. What it did you send Me To k. you and then which is how I found stand up and which. Is What has led me to this? Weird. This great life where I hang out with rock star. Heroes and fly in my friends private jets Vegas. It all worked out for the better and I'm so glad at. A. I wonder how many of us have had head injuries that changed the way we see things. I definitely, I had a head injury in college and I WANNA say. I WANNA say me. I don't know maybe it didn't. I. Don't know. I had a pretty severe head injury in college not as bad as Europe's I was like, I that picture those stitches and I was like. Wait who is that? We're when did that happen? Yeah who's crazy it's not something like you know it's not something that comes up a lot organically conversation. So it's not something I've. told a lot of people I've tried to do a bit about it but people. I. Don't know if they don't grasp exactly what happened, but it's it's never really translated into a fun anything. This podcast is brought to you by Miller high life. Miller highlife brings pride to the simple things in life. 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There was definitely like a freak out session about that where I all I did think about moving to came back home to Kansas City. 'cause the career wasn't going super great. And I wasn't doing anything in L. A. That I couldn't do in Kansas City and to the point where I even talked to the family priest about it. And we're at a party this is my I grew up at a very heavily Catholic, family like the church my parents go to was started by my great great grandparents a while it so. That being said, I left the church long time ago So I but this priest, I've always kind of respected his opinion we are somewhere. Where at a party where someone asks a question and he gave like this? Cool like parable from the Bible and Mike kind of puts it into perspective and I was like a kind grandma like, Hey, man. could we meet for a bear and and baby talk about some shape and he was like buddy? You're buying Beers I'll man I'm like great. So we go be bear. My you know I'm at this weird place in my career and you know I could probably move home and I'm thinking I'd like to have a family blah blah blah and just kind of went. Because I was expecting like another like parable and story just went what do you have some money saved up and I was like, yeah, because yeah come on back I don't know you can always move back I was like well, fuck that bullshit. Out there luckily, I did because then I think ugly angry came out a few years later and then you know things have definitely started to go up since then. And but also. I grew up in kind of look when I got. When I got last comic standing it was definitely life changing and but I definitely thought I was a Rockstar and that's why dressed the way I was and I didn't really take the business side of things. seriously, and that was d'etre. You know that was very detrimental to me. I, remember back in the day opening for Tracy Morgan and he'd just be like what you got to understand is it so Business and I just thought he was Tracy Morgan is insane is has is very insightful and has is very smart about a lot of things. And he's So yeah. Once I started taking the business and more seriously than things definitely started to improve. and you know what I did move to Kansas City but yeah. So. WHO I always like I'm always obsessed with people that we find inspiration from like because they are comic. So they ultimately are fuck ups. But it's interesting the people that you. That you bump into. In our business that kind of for better for worse. I remember there's a lot of guys that I've watched handle the business and I remember going Oh I don't want to do that like that was the clearest way to see it was like Oh. This guy is ruining himself. For. Sure. Especially, I, see that a lot what I learned that the most that from is how to treat the staff at a comedy club and I learn more by watching people be absolute Dick's than I ever did by saying someone or and then he watched someone treat the staff nicely in how well that person gets treated Oh. You know so funny though is like I watched some people like Like Im- bags. A really interesting example in bag was never rude to anybody. However, he looked at it as a job, and so we went in to this spot left went to the hotel and I remember I remember one place. I remember being in Denver and they're like your friends at the end right and I was like, yeah. No like why is he said your deck I go he's not greatest guy ever and they're like. No he like he doesn't hang out in party with us and I was like all me ask him. He was like wait. Are they asking why? And why? I don't hang out and try to fuck the staff and I was like I guess ultimately yeah and he was like I thought I was doing the right bucket by going home like it's so interesting the with. The there's a happy medium. There's a happy medium where you can hang out and not trying to fuck the staff. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, I, mean I put myself in. So many precarious situations hanging out with staff that you're like as a married man you're like going back to when you're younger, you could go back to someone's House Party and and. Now, you look at it you're like, Oh, you should never do any of that shit ever. Know especially when I was younger I I remember in little rock at the learning in like the staff just calling me and like hey, were all coming over to the CONDO and it just turned into a giant fucking. debaucherous debauchery fast, and but those are like listen the staff who remembers the people have good times with as anyone does and so it's like in that especially, if you're at a place where you're not selling that many tickets yes that will get you book a thousand times more especially if you have fun with the staff and not fucked them like look at Jon Morgan look at the raging. Cajun like that dude hasn't had a special that do but he gets weeks at every funny bone because he puts on an amazing show he probably sells a consists amount of tickets because of that amazing show but more importantly the staff. Loves. The every staff if you mentioned Jon Morgan, it's the he's the number one. He's just the best and he's made a career out of that. I've got. You know what man? I'll tell you what I'm GonNa do I WanNa, go see him perform. I've never seen him perform. It's It's hilarious. He'll make you cry and then at the end he sings the national anthem. Real for. He'll sing at the end of it. Yeah. It's it's an interesting show but man I remember as a fee tracked. If you gave me a Jon Morgan weekend, I knew it was gonna be fucking hilarious an amazing time and like nothing but positive vibes that. I every everywhere I've ever been. It everywhere I've ever been. They've talked about how he is just the best like treats his staff Nice fucking cool. The like and then you and Emily Harris absolutely hilarious. You wonder how? How the industry misses the guy like not. Where you go how come, he doesn't have why hasn't anyone You. Know what it is. You realize someone like Brian Volk who you know runs you know for those who don't know as. He basically is I would argue the reason specials are as big as they are these days and a Netflix or together making these specials. Raisins I have a career. Brian. Bulk quite has done. You know I think people have problems with Brian but but for the most part, he's done more for comedy than he's done against comedy, you know a thousand percent and so. But Brian Volk Weiss is not in the trenches. He doesn't know guys like J medicine. Had you know Jon? Morgan. I would argue he probably barely knows guys like like Like a fucking Chad Daniels a fucking monster a giant. Yeah and there's a guy that just isn't a testament to if you're one of the. Comics which I think he's he's my favorite comic. Watch on is so fucking good He just kept doing the road and promoted and took advantage of social promotion and did that and you know finally got a special fucking went bananas. He is an amazing comp in. It's just a testament to. That's what I love about comedy as opposed to music is like for the most part, the best comics, the most successful comics, and there are exceptions to this rule are the bass comics. but like in music, a lot of it, the most popular stuff is fucking garbage. And I just think what's great about what we do is that it's more of a testament to talent pain off. It's so interesting say that you can't deny a good joke like as much as you want to say, that's what drives me nuts about like. About. The PORTA cancel culture where they take things out of context. You'll see you take the context. It's no longer a joke. Once you just take the punchline and don't mention all the setup you know or if you take something from twelve years ago and say, he said this, that implies that I haven't learned anything. Like I might have said that joke a long time ago a still a funny joke but be I just I didn't know that was inappropriate the tank and no one said a fucking thing twelve years ago. But now and I think someone was jeffries would that was saying he was like you keep moving the line. I will twelve years ago. That wasn't the like look at blazing saddles my favorite movie of all time they just put like a social awareness like you have then put a warning in front of it. Because there they had to HBO and be like Hey you have to remember it was fucking nineteen, seventy eight and things were different. Also, this movie was written partly by a black man and a lot of this shit is tongue in cheek you fucking Weirdos yeah. But that movie or any movie like it. Could, never be written today why if you wanted to write the next blazing saddles and you turn it in, you'd probably get. Blacklisted if that's if that's really thing but. It's We're on the bus yesterday and and. the topic of cancel culture in Shame Gillis came up you Shane. I've heard the name he did he was on SNL and then, and then when they found out, he made like some. Noodles or something or Asian people and and The jokes about noodles, but it was in reference as people but it was like he was trying to be funny seems in you know whatever whatever that joke was whatever the point is like I think a lot of people at that point just wrote them off right and then he still doing stand up he's still busting his ass on the road. Doing shows, he has not quit writing jokes and fucking. Someone goes only going to be heard his. Special. Olympics, joking I was like, no, we played it. It is definitely definitely inappropriate, but it is so goddamn funny and you cannot deny it and we're crying laughing on the bus and I just texted him like I hit him up on Instagram Dude were dying laughing, listening I joke, and he's like oh thanks and then you, Oh, you just keep coming and you just keep working and funny shit is always arrived at the top is always harassed the top whether or not. That's your sense of humor not is is neither here nor there is part of it is obviously subjective but objective objective whatever. But a good joke. You're right a good joke just makes you laugh. I absolutely and that being said, it's like wild talent will rise to the top you have to, and this is what I had to learn is like you have to have a business acumen about it because and you have to work hard because what's really changed this game is that like when you and I started. It was still like. You can just come up with a bit whenever like you were just very like, yeah I'm going to do this we keep writing. OUT HERE motherfuckers writing every day. Yeah. Every day and so you have to if you don't put the work in your team, you have to still put the work in I guess is what I'm saying very few. There are a few people that just fucking. Have that personality that just skyrocket up? A but that's that's a lottery ticket like you really have to put the work in to like get get to that level. Oh, I look at it like where I go. I'm running I'm running fucking five different businesses at once and stand up is the least important of them at times you like you go Gary Podcast, you your production company where you`re I mean we're not even talking about trying to get on TV shows and trying to slow. We're trying to make a movie all those other burners but letting podcasting and an instagram and promoting I'm more of a marketer these days APP. Times then I stand up radio. Sometimes you're like, okay. I got everyone to the show. Oh Fuck I gotta do stand up now Oh shit like the fucking thing they game bore is sometimes forgotten and there's some guys that don't. That ignore the stand up and just promote and you see that definitely. But you also have changed the game what it comes to promotion the level of production value put into this shit not just like from the beginning when you were just coming out of your pool and fucking doing all that shit to the fucking dance video to now now you insecure both during. An and also the way you guys can promote each other is just so smart in. So an it's just such a great model like I buck and Ben Glebe calling me go and we got a and do what they're doing well. You have to have a certain chemistry to make that work but like. It's just it's so great and you're one of the people that inspire me every day where I like wake up and I'm like, okay drink coffee and play Guitar Mike Well. Up for four hours already and he just ran a thousand miles and now he's doing six instagram videos you're like well, fuck. All right. Let's clean this place and start getting the work so Very, Nice. You say that means a lot to me. Did I I don't I mean it goes without saying, I I sincerely look up to you in stand up you are. I mean I go back to that. You know you have those moments in your career where you don't you don't. You don't know they're going to show up and sitting Omaha in the back of the club watching your do your our was like fuck man I'm not writing enough I'm not I'm not I'm not. It's interesting. I, bet some people look at a like a comic that they that is better than them and then they go Oh Fuck that guy I'm going to find ways to trash him i. know for a fact that there are comics that are trashing me currently I've heard people send me the clips Oh. Yeah. It hurts because you're like I definitely thought we were friends and then you like. I mean. I I. Don't know I don't know how to tell you. I don't know what to tell you man but so there are people that that never do that. I look at someone who's doing better than me or like do writing and fucking better stand up and I just get inspired to go what the fuck man like you. I. Go through that night of your show and the. seamlessness with which you can tell a story in the casualness and the and the. Honestly your perspective of. Of where the laughed should be. Just fucking blew my mind because at the time I was telling some things. So literally like where it was like it was like A. Just, start going through the story and you would we've and. The fucking story you had about the fucking in was Chicago pitcher. overlander. Every like everything about your. Set. was like was like Goddamn does it like it really changed I the they might take away that evening was And this is funny besides share this with other people and some people don't agree with this takeaway. But one of the things you do very well is you write jokes no, one can write. Like no one can tell your the way you approach a chunk. No one's doing it that way and I walked away going. Sometimes I'm doing shit anyone can do. I gotta get that out of my fucking acts. Well. I appreciate that being said Secret time is still one of my top five. Special. Means so much. At I remember watching you that night and that was speaking of pivotal diet or not because it was a noon show. I talked about on my instagram but I want to bring it up again was. You're getting ready for secret time. You're doing a noon showing Omaha I was doing the night shows and you're like man I. I. GotTa do this hour but you know I gotta do them she and I was like fuck these people you give them what you do, what you do and you're like really because. I grew up with the Black Crowes and you would go to black crowes concerts and they would not play a single hit. and which has a deep. audio. File Guy I loved. But you see people leave these concerts going the would talk and play she talks to angels and so that was the mindset I came from an you're like. No Man, the audience is. See. You you need to give them what they want and I was like Nah, like watch this and you walked onstage took your shirt off did your intro and go hey, I got a lot of new jokes get through just by raise of hands. How many of you have to hear the machine today? fucking half up. And I was like, Oh fuck and I went back that afternoon and learned four bits that everyone had been asking me to do again and I remember I remember I remember watching you. On stage that night and you and you're like, you know they're driving Jackson I. Think you said like a friend in the audience or something or yeah and. Go ahead. Go ahead. That setup I stole from job. And it's a setup and he's dead so I don't care. But he got to host. To host for him in bag featured and John pinette headlined. obviously years ago, and so Panetta do is new our and then he would say I have some friends in from out of town which he didn't. And he goes they wanted me to do this whole bit that I don't normally do anymore and it's and then he do the buffet, the killer whale. But yeah, and I was like that is the easiest way to get into old bits. and. The weirdest thing, and it's the best feeling I've had comedy in twenty years. Probably since the first time I did it was when I started the first lines of the TACO bell bit for the first time and people started cheering. I remember you started that Taco Bell bit and they went fucking nuts and I remember you look you're you're on stage and you're like. Really started crying. Syria I was like Whoa this like, Oh, I have affected people. And and it's changed everything. So they you know that was definitely something I learned from you about watching when I watched. You do your our that night just the way you told the story especially liked zip lining and Vietnam though the word stories you the word choices you made I was fucking crying laughing. Dude. I'm ready to get back on the road with the I. Wish you'll be outnumbered this tour bus with us you fucking love it did. Call me anytime. I'd be there in a heartbeat. We're doing another big tour in the in the beginning of the fall I. Think we're GONNA hit. Northern California like try to hit everywhere right forgets. An all out. Man I love I would love to fuck and work with you dude I would love to do that if we're GONNA nor cal no a couple growers. Do you the best gigs coming up at the end of the month I. got a big virtual show at rush ticks dot com. That's our US H. T. I x. and it's fifteen bucks and it's a virtual show but I and then I so I'll do my our do some all I'll do my forty five I'll do some old bits and then I, I just hang out and like you can like talk to me via the comments and stuff and I'll just answer questions and hang out to that's fucking awesome man well, make sure to put that in the beginning of this podcast I've got my is in the hospital and they're texting me about. Her stitches and Fuck L. Worries man all the best to her yeah. I. Appreciate it. I could sit literally sit and talk to you for another fucking our dude. We gotTA. You GotTa do this I want to do one in person when we're getting a new podcast studio I'd love you to come in. We'll do one more rank of fucking blast. Yeah. That's exactly what I WANNA do. I'll bring nineteen forty children. We'll get a dot de I love you Chris congratulations on everything I can't let you. saw. This episode is brought to you by the machine.

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# 431 - Rob Schneider & ME

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1:47:24 hr | 5 months ago

# 431 - Rob Schneider & ME

"Hey guys brand new burke, and the hot summer nights door is back on the road October seven. In Salt Lake City Utah. We are doing all outdoor venues, some of which are driving maybe cedars summer, which are just straight outdoor venues where you can kind of hang out they're all really really cool and and I've kind of vetted them to make sure that you can go out and party and you're not stuck my car. So check me out Salt Lake City on the seven grand junctions on the Eighth Colorado Springs on the ninth October Twelfth. impressed. Zona the thirteenth on Santa Fe that is when I have a cardiology appointment where I should probably change that would call a big announcement on the fifteenth October. I can't tell you yet. But if you listen to do bears one cable live next Monday, you will hear it Houston Texas on the Sixteenth San Antonio on the Seventeenth Dallas Fort Worth on the eighteen on the twentieth St. Louis Missouri Toledo Ohio on the Twenty Birth Cleveland Ohio on the twenty second and on the twenty third at Hoffman Estates Illinois big announcement come in tomorrow about my. Area, anyway. As pick my nose. New Purdue bears one cave as live is out right now. With Bobby Lee. Bobby. Lee will be a part of my who's enough on. Amman or not. And And I WANNA thank Bobby Lee for doing it it is part of our representation months. We had a woman last week for tubers. One gave we have an Asian American this week, we have a homosexual American coming up In a couple of weeks just getting, we do actually do but we haven't heard it yet. It'll be per if in case one of US can't make it. We need to cover ourselves. And by the way, he's just an American. I don't identify I. Don I identify never mind let's just move forward. Okay. It's Tim Dillon. All right. So Great podcast today, we have some announcements you'll hear them out the podcast. Thank you everyone for your support. Thank you for this to new Tube Bill Burr is out right now new tubers one cable bobby. Lee is right now the tour starts October seventh. What else do you need to know what else do you need to know I'm done my series and Macon. Georgia I am home we are wrapping up these zooms by the time I get home in October, my new podcast, it will be up and running I. Have Actually Thought Halston wonderful. We should do just to make it totally safe is put a barrier up while we're doing the corona virus episodes. So against smoke and drink and party and get irresponsible but know that we're safe I was wondering about that I wonder if we should do that mega so you can't see it the way like they do a tiger in a movie you know. Or like Hollywood squares like a close up. Yeah. Box or we can just sit kind of further apart. Or because I don't think I, want to get everyone tested barb owed doing on people over new podcast studio. We'll figure out we'll figure it out we gotTA. Go get a root canal right now I'm doing this read I talk about the recount. This is a great podcast is a great great podcast. He's got a new netflix special called as Mama Max kids It's all small watching the other day while I was in making when we were supposed to a week ago and then and and I will tell you I will tell you that bring this up his daughter L. King comes out at the end. And fucking God that with less with. Courts her voice is magical and Robbins. Nah just watch it. Yourself Watch it yourself streaming right now on Netflix. Well, we have a great conversation you know. It's interesting I I talked to him about this. We talked when he was on Mark Marins podcast I remembered. I remembered that he was a comic. It's so funny. Some of these guys get so famous and they do such big movies. He's been an almost every sandler movie, the Deuce Bigalow, which we talk about, which is probably my favorite part of the conversation. So I wanted to talk to him about About how he got that made because his his best friend made it with him and I always wondered like if you like. You have a best friend like like that. I get so funny I gue- I guess I do have really close friends like that and I don't I never ask anything of the. Like I don't ever ask I, try not to ask for things from Joe I'll ask to be on a show I'm a special coming out but I know that Joe would expect that of me. You know that it'd be like, yeah why didn't you ask me? but it is crazy. I wondered about that and so we talk about the making of Deuce bigalow which. People may forget was a fucking smash it like if you're younger and you don't remember Deuce Bigalow, I saw in the movie theater with my dad the reason I bring this up after two movies ever in his life and it's something about Marian Deuce bigalow. He cried laughing and Deuce bigalow. It was a fucking hilarious. Be We talk about that? We talked about him and and Sandler and Spain the whole group of them and Chris Rock. We talk a lot about that. It's a great great. Great. Great great conversation. But we talked mostly about. The fact that like we haven't gone up in San. Francisco we talk about comedy and that is and I will tell everyone if you get the chance go back and listen to his podcast with Marc Maron 'cause I. Think I forgot. He was just a comic one day like when he got into this business, he just wanted to be a comedian just like me and identified with him so much. Okay. I really gotta go now. I'm running late to this re now and I gotTA brush my teeth identified with him so much on marriage podcasts I was like, oh, he's everything I was just wanting to be comic and then the business was different at that time. He didn't start a podcast. He just got on SNL and made movies and did the road a little bit. Now he's doing the road again and I was been focused on Santa for ten years and he has this great special Asia Mama. Mexican. Kids. which you should check out Netflix's. Ladies and gentlemen without further Ado I'm going to get a root canal. Without further ADO. Stand up. Comedian. Rob Steiner. This. Such, a fucking honor all. Thank you. Live up to that buddy. Thank you. Likewise, you're killing it man you're. You're you're the the every man I've been trying to be for thirty years and you're you're the real thing. Oh Man. Steeple love you. All, I've just wanted to make a career. Burton. You you hit it harder than make was this I want to say my life's not that. Great. But look at that guy, he's got real problems and that's that's that's zone. Of A carved out that Nook for me. It's working don't fight it D- I to do so much i WanNa talk to you about the first one I've for I. don't even know where to start but The I. It's so funny. I heard you on Marin Awhile back was that how was that? said. Could have been four years ago or so maybe five listened on an airplane and it's so funny that which is so cool about your netflix special is. In hearing you talk the my only takeaway was God dammit. I forgot he was a comedian. Dot Com forgot your straight up stand up comic that's who you are. Those are who you've been so in movies and national and characters and Like. I. Mean you've had so many different. You've weren't so many different hats in this business guy. He's just a comment. At the base of things. Yeah absolutely. That was the start of everything I. Just you because I mean that was the That was it I mean when when I saw like you know I saw George Carlin perform enlightening. Four maybe no no way Minna it could have been seventy six or seventy, seven and but it was like early like I was like twelve or something like that and. I just I was dying, we're literally in Hawaii is as my grandfather's Lived in. Hawaii. We're literally in the last row is like my dad, my brother and me in the last for Obese Auditorium and he just comes out and says. Would you like a Nice Hawaiian Punch? No delays a nice new. York kick in the balls and and that's the only thing I remember from that evening. But we're dying the whole night and but I'd never thought you could do it for a living in Seoul a couple years later when. I heard that there was a you know Steve Martin was going to become San Francisco. So we we went to go see him and then that's trying to put it together. It was like dude that guys in the same. I mean he's in the same room is he's on the stage. And in a in an auditorium but like I mean, he did it he's a person I'm a person. You know you Kinda have to talk like that no. And Twenty Yeah I saw there was a comedy club in Tallahassee at a Holiday Inn when I was in college. And I remember. Seeing a comic I ended up heckling him. But it was I didn't know that I didn't know what I it was back when you before you were comic and you thought as long as the rooms laughing that's all that anyone matters. Know other matters his punchline was. A Styrofoam Cooler that was his punchline as in the front row with my Buddy Eddie and we're on day. And he goes and it's IT'S A. It's a Styrofoam Cooler and it's silent right silent and he's holding it. And it's like five seconds later. I hit my buddy. Eddie in an allowed whisper. Coo Styrofoam Cooler and the place went nuts, right? Yeah and the guy looked at me and was livid and at that point I didn't I was like, how did he do the magic trick of getting up there and then I went back to try to talk to him after about how you become a comedian. And he was so nasty to me. You know what's funny. Is that there there are the guys that were like super mean t when you first start like I, remember like there was a was just starting to open night's open mic nights at the other cafe, which was really cool because it was like that you know like Merrin absurd talked about like it was like the hippy part, the Haight Ashbury in San Francisco, and she had really cool people come in literally sometimes you would have grace slick we come in from like. You know. This city yeah. Well, hopefully from like the white rabbit more than that you know. Was the first concert ever saw she was Houston and that was what it was called was Jefferson airplane it was called Jefferson starship and. starship. Anyway so and I just remember like being weird out by her because you know just an older woman talking to me I, thought she hitting on me I don't know and see her eyes were like like this. You know like she like she really did take some of that stuff and so but it was a cool place to perform in the audience were if you tried to do different stuff, they would go farther with you and then I remember going up with the MC and I said in some. He said, I'M GONNA I'm hosting say good night I'm going to be hosting. The Sunday nights at. At the punchline there was another club, Sam's just great club. And want to said so how do I get in there to sign up for a bunch who came up to you? Who told you? Who told you to talk to me a hit me up for this told you and I just heard you say so who told you will you told me that you just said it you know and you just deck and. Then the opposite where the greatest guys or the guys like the the guys who are really good at it or the guys who also the most generous with their information you know. Oh Yeah All the like Like. Jerry Seinfeld came to town. We, all the COMEDIANS would go see him at COBB's public is nothing but a bar, but they could get like one, hundred, forty people and you paying ten fifteen bucks made it worth it for him to do for shows or whatever, and an after he would just you know we'd sit there. And he talked to us and he'd lecture us You know because that's what we wanted according to united. GotTa take the swear words out. You take the swear words out. and. It's not funny. then. As not. Funny. And, I remember wow, it was great. Said you can't swear on tonight show. Why would you WANNA do that? And it just you needed somebody to like. The WHO's the first person to tell you how to get a set together and like get five minutes in like. Patrice O'Neal. Oh Yeah. Well, he was. Not but what I was doing it, I was doing. All my things written on a set list and we do I WANNA say fifteen minutes I know it wasn't fifteen minutes because I don't think I have fifteen minutes. Then maybe it was like twelve minutes with twelve minutes to try it my jokes written out all. The way I still do that to this day but I don't what I did is I put it on the stool where at Caroline's and I basically looked and I told the joke that I saw and there is no cohesion to it. And you're doing two shows, we were recording them to be submitted for festival. Edinburgh and we were part of the thing and Patrice Goes Oh. You've set lists next yet he goes. I went yeah and he grabbed it and he ripped it off any throw it away and he goes don't be in your jokes off a list. He goes if you don't know them and if he goes, you're not that comic your comic this should be in the moment flowing going from one job to the other, and if it doesn't go in the exact order, it doesn't need to. It can just be what it is and I went okay and so just based on panic and Energy I went up and did it that way and I have never been able to look at Selah like outright my jokes out. To a special of put him translate floating around here while put him on set lists and like have them all bear but I never go through a set list that's just jarred my memory before the show no it is. But also like because I'm doing a new our and literally. It's a weird thing because you know when you have like A. Record it like literally it was right before the world shut down I. Think I was the last comedy special was filmed. February. Twenty nine. And at that time you know in twenty twenty, there's like it was starting to get a little weird Adam Sandler. Now, we're about to go do like literally hockey stadiums Just me and him doing like. Fifteen thousand seaters any he called me up a couple of days later after I film it's like you think we should go out. It's you know is when the Tom Hanks guided that was like the beginning and then they end in the NBA canceled their season over. Yeah and I just got it in. I, remember like somebody was saying I'm kind of uncomfortable on the one of the social media's I'm kind of comfortable being around a lot of people right now. Are you gonNA reschedule now like why now I'm spending we got Crew in like thousands of dollars. Yeah I didn't even think about it. You know. So but we got it in so but what I was getting to that from. was having. Thank. God we got that done just through all that material away and there's good is like. You know the I guess the. Dues call it Mikva, you just take a cleansing bath get all that stuff at get it off your. So. It's There's so much happening in the world right now that I think I wanted to just talk about, and so I just wrote it down and it just I did have a list and I had seven pages. I said you're charging money to for people to come see but said I said I think. I did work it out and. But you do have to kind of, and then I think at the end of the day but I know what you're talking about the bird is when you have the list in your pocket or backstage or whatever, but you don't have to look at it because it's in their. Idea of like kind of security blanket thing. Oh, security blanket. I know what I do this is a hard secret. Don't think anyone has ever noticed I. When I do when I do a special I will write my list in magic marker on the stool in a in a paint pen a right the list. Senior. So that way that way if. If I do because you know when you get to apart and you're like, you're like get to a party you're you're like, this will be thirty three minutes and then you look down twenty five Oh fuck I forgot. Yes. Yes. Yeah Yeah I mean. That's a great idea. But I just remember like I was Gonna I WANNA do my special and I remember being there I was a opening for Adam Sandler for he was doing his special and I had a part in it with him. In. Chris Rock was backstage and Kevin. James is back stage. I remember Chris was very animated anyway said fuck the show. The show ain't about the it's about the special get the special bought the show get in other words. Make sure if you have to stop everything and do something a Redo whatever just you gotta get it in San was talking about which. Is I told him. I was going to shoot one and he said a man, it's weird the difference between US Comedians and musicians like my daughter L. King she gets to work a year on her album. We a one night two shows. Yeah. You know I mean luckily I Will Adam his show he filmed it for a year I spent like billions of dollars on it Joinville you. That's the that is that should just Chapelle a member not I shouldn't speak for spell but like from what I understand from executives, she his first special back I. Think he shot like eighteen shows or something like he like eight shows and I when I did my last special I was like Hey I two shows is not enough like it just isn't and they were like well, we can add to shows like, yeah, how much and there were like fifty grand and I was like a hold on so respected anyone listening a specials going to cost. Maybe, three hundred, Fifty, seven, hundred, thousand dollars just to add one more night for me was fifty grand. I was like take it out of my fucking what they're paying me. Definitely I will debt because you look at sailor's sailor was phenomenal but you realize how many cuts he got at it as a comic you go. He is just showing you. Every fucking dinger off the wall. Well, that's right or what was. What Adam is what what every comedian can learn from? Adam. Sandler is what you can do your art form in stand up and performing is one thing that is one aspect of it. You're writing of it is another aspect you're performing your performance is another aspect and the look of it but the one thing that like what every comedian who's who's like us in every community who wants to do this art form wants to do it at the highest level you gotTa know he's also a filmmaker. The, motherfucker. But filmmaker, let me tell you. He works his ass off and doesn't stop. He doesn't like I. Remember like It was very interesting to see him when he did the waterboy. Years ago at Disney, it was the last place that that he that they pitched it to, and if they would have said now that would have been made. It was littered. The last place was Disney. To make it. You know by the way I gotta I'm GonNa Tell You, 'cause I want to hear everything in its I'll tell them tell me about this. I WanNa say I worked with the executive of Disney who green lit the waterboy as an executive producer on something and was telling me about the waterboy and I was I was like in my head on Mike There's a movie I saw in a movie theater like this was before I had there is a concept of being like of other meeting any of you guys and I'm like so keep going he was telling me something about the waterboy keep going well, the first screening of it bombed. Because, they didn't have the hits in it. You know it didn't have the powerful hits and also he was stuttering too much So he literally this is the genius of Adam and like. He literally re voiced the entire movie. Is Voice. And cut all this stuff because it did it. Did. It it was too much. So he cut it back a little bit to where he was doing less and then in the stuff that where he was really overdoing it, he cut it back and then he put in the hits in edit and then the next greening was the one I was at. And it was with The great actress of from misery Come on what's her name Oh Nama Kathy Bates. Yes art and. Kathy Bates behind me. Just hysterically cackling the whole time I. And then she told me after the movie. After the screening she said, I got I got the script and it in the garbage. And my niece who were from me. This is what is that script from was who's it from from Adam Sandler Said no no, he's really funny. Really funny and she picked it up and they said, no no no. No it's a comedy and it's a specific thing. You gotta read it again and so it's together they both read it in and they were really laughing and that was the first comedy she had done. Failures fascinating dude like he's a genius he's a real genius. I had a I had interview go home horrifically wrong with them, but he was very nice in general. I don't know. It was the specifics of it but I did know that you said something because I follow you I i. It was we were doing. Comedy gives back or some shit was on zoom and I was winning comings and Whitney's like you know your huge Adam Sandler fan like all you guys don't understand all you guys define my personality like I'm watching all of you guys. There's parts of that your whole crew including like. Chris. Rock is the reason I got into stand up like Chris Rock. Is I wa- spring the pain and I. This is back when eight when you had to re record something, you wanted to see it twice. I recorded it on my VCR. And then I stopped I said, I'm not GonNa Watch US right now I went out and got a twelve pack of beer came back and watched it was crying laughing spayed for yourself. Sandler all you guys are so are were so integral. We watched DEUCE bigalow my family on vacation It in the Movie Theater and my Dad does not my dad's laughed at like a couple of things like he's just not a big laugher it. But when he does laugh, it's uncontrollable and he can't stop it. And do. The only two movies ever made my dad laugher deuce bigelow and there's something about Mary. was crying in Deuce bigalow crying laughing it was, and so like all you guys as long as why opportunity to interview adamant I say to them When you're really excited and the first question I asked him as I go you have net flicks. And And there. I didn't even know this interview went poorly I. Got I co- I watched I watched your movie happy Madison with my kids the other day. which is a it is like it's obviously happy Gilmore but if you're not his company's aim having. So it's just as he gave me a pass I asked Sony stupid fucking questions. When I was like, can I tell you a story the the person running the interview One of the people executives calls me up as I'm driving home and is like that Adam Sandler interview I was like going great. I didn't I was oblivious. It up and they're like, what do you mean of great you asked me that has net flicks. I was wondering and like here's a fucking four, hundred, million dollar deal it Netflix's. Netflix. was like Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You call it. Happy Madison. You told him a story about him. You told him a story about you watching one of his movies like you didn't let to talk. Very. He was very nice I. Think spayed restart that interviews areas and then. We did that he watched my special and it was like as long as he knew that I wasn't trying to be a Dick. I was just fucking gotten. We had some people that were to me recently, these Barstool guys who had bad didn't make me laugh once the whole interview and didn't say anything funny and it was very disappointing because I heard those were. Funny guys, and they weren't with me. I'd like to thank our sponsor Miller High Life Miller highlight brings fried the simple things in life. 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Talk me doing stand up again is I was you know the thing that? was a trip was like. You. Know he obviously was like a tremendous up when he's in control of that I mean I really think he changed modern comedy there people who could say. you know Chapelle or they could say, you know I think I think it really is the the modern geniuses of suppose absolutely brilliant. But the guy who changed it into into what weird kind of you know the wave that we're still on was raw and I remember seeing him in ninety six because we're on SNL and like tooth fully like he admits this that he didn't hit hard on that show and it was The it didn't as a watch. You're that show it bummed me out because I was Chris Rock Fan back in the day when when because you heard that Eddie Murphy night at him that he added you're my guy and so. When this back before you knew like everything was common knowledge and I remember hearing that and going Okay Eddie Murphy thinks this guy's funny than this guy's my guy. Guys I went. This is GonNa be fucking magic. I know the problem with that show is is limitations of that show show your own limitations and and what what is that shows about characters if you can do characters and Eddie characters and Eddie would come on and do different stuff and that would in a hit really hard. You know what? He's doing the little rascals guy or or what he would play, and he would knock it out in his confidence was off the charts. So. Rock is always going to be Chris, rock and and there's nothing wrong with that and as far as you know, there's two kinds of act things you got the Al Pacino's who can play scarface he could play like a you know a guy in a cruising in a gay those are different parts. The Gay serial killer movie and you got scarf up. U Bano. Thing for this guy is I'm going to commit the donors to walk on time and commit and did it. It was almost it was almost like a nineteen thirties character but and then you have characters like Humphrey Bogart's Humphrey Bogart in every in every movie. So there's that there's those two two things are just as valid and like Harrison. Ford is always going to be informed that Harrison. Ford playing different roles. You know he's got to have a whip and a gun and people. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah One. We're Harrison Ford plays a guy with a brain injury. I don't know. You know what I mean. He had that movie regarding Henry. Where's the whip? Where's The gun? You know audience solo how to Gun Wookey Where's the good movies were just nears import playing his version of Harrison Ford in space as. You know exactly and so so for Chris Rock Chris Rock is as powerful as Chris rock up there you know and. and. So I went to go see him in ninety six. He's playing in San Diego and I said, I, just want to drive down and see and I drove down. and. It was Sunday night in wasn't packed. It was pretty but in his set was. was, fantastic. But it wasn't like like lights out like what he was going to be. In six months and he said to me and he said he was working out his stuff. This was a chunk of stuff that is working and he said Dude I'm about he didn't say dude, that's my woman who said about the blow up about the blow the faulk up I know one. Okay. Yeah. All right and I said, I got this special. I'm working on man I'm China's GonNa blow up and he saw it and I didn't see it completely that night. But then that special that first one it was like I. saw it. Just you know. It was brave was brilliant. It was absolutely the logic and the absurdity of it was the logical absurdity to his the progression of his material was was phenomenal and it did it really did change the. I worked with him like years later at ten years ago on a movie. With Adam Sandler grownups and he was just talking to me every morning we get to talk in like wait for Selma Hayek amount of progressing room ago. How could she this beautiful seven am? And then. He said, you should go back to stand up and I said man I don't know by the time I had. You know time him me Adam Sandler. Had Twenty five minutes on night live. We never really had a good hour you know at that time. Because that's fascinating. It's so interesting because. You guys all started the stand ups and I remember watching Adam and I'm I'm saying this glowingly but I remember watching Adam at the Improv one night with a notepad trying to get back on stage. And you could see how far disconnected he was like. You could see that like when he started stand up, he was very young and a character, and then some of the movies he had done, you could see he had outgrown that character and but but he was only tethered to the presenting that material as that it was really like I'm trying to think of another example like Bob, cats remember when Bob. Are the voice and Adam it was like almost watching Adam acts seventeen when he is. A grown man but I will say this though the Keith Adam is that it of his that fourteen year old two, seventeen year old it never left him completely the one. Job. Isn't really a fake. It isn't really a plant it's the it's his goto safety zone because it's also. He really stayed in it longer than most human beings and and I mean that it like he still has that excitement for material for jokes literally when he has something funny or you say some but he will like. Jump Out of the chair like like he did it fourteen and fifteen, and he does have that in still has not really lost that. But I I think seeing him get back on stage and. To me the only crunchy had was was like having to like just in case I got my axe within when you get to see him know his guitar so and the people want that. He loves being just A. STANDUP and about I'd say about half the activists in doing stand up now and then half of it is music and music is you know just carries through and he's become a really terrific musician a songwriter and he's allowed himself the right emotional songs and also just the silliest stuff into me. scillies king and Adam his best. As silly you know that's what I love about. You guys say you guys I want to get off the Ataman. Anyone can talk. About your group your your group of friends as. Honestly changing the. Collective, unconscious of America of how boys were raised and I always say. When thing I love about you guys that you guys were joke I. Like joke I, just the the funny thing I everything was funny thing I and even in the essence of your movies, it was funny thing I and I don't care if you don't think I'm if you don't care you think I'm political or if I'm insightful I read books about philosophy I just want you to laugh that's my thing when I tell you what it's like that is the toughest thing. To fight against is the urge to say something I mean you have to be there to entertain to entertain entertain if you could do it and say something by accident then fine. But and I'm not putting down you know the the you know the George Carlin's of it all but I do remember specifically Jay Leno talking about a comedians when they get serious in its he called it Lenny's disease. Lenny, Bruce Disease, great, none of the guy who really changed censorship for stand up comedians and and not I. Think you can there are you know taking away from Lake? CHAPELLE IS A. Social Satirist than in his absolutely brilliant. He is basically like almost like a soothsaying wisdom. Know people it's almost like a religious leader when people go see. Chapelle, go see him like this. Like. Please make sense of the world for me but to me. The when we came out of that group It was you know scillies king and silly. We'll always be king. It's like it was Peter sellars. Pink Panther was Monty Python. Those guys were like you know it's it's all about however you can get the laugh surprise whatever you could still be you know the. Peter Sales brilliantly funny and and like Monty Python's the high water mark accommodating the twentieth century. I defy anybody to try to prove me wrong on that. But the the king of it was and when I've been lucky enough to spend time with John cleese said scillies King, it always will be silly is king silly more. You could be better and I remember when I started jump back into stand up ten years ago it was Dahmer era was who's a brilliant Love millions. And a wonderful comic who has you know if you see him, you'll never see him not be entertaining and it he just sneaks in the silly and remember he told me one night. He said he suddenly performance went good but I think more good because I was famous than because I I did great that night insulated get back into it. He said. Rob. Let's go get some soup and he took we went to soup. Next door is at the laugh factory and went next door to the the Jewish delay there. Any said you're funny when you're silly don't fight it. Lotta. Guys can stand up there and just talk but. It can't be silly you can, and that's when you funniest now like Holy Shit he's right. What am I doing? And That's what helps when you're silly I mean that's that's the thing it belied I have no, I have no inclination especially the way the world's working. Now I've no inclination to try to give you my opinion about. Like I have no I have no need to tell you who I'm going to vote for or why you should vote for someone else like I wrote a great jump or wrote a great this morning Neo Brennan At a tweet about The people on. Doing trump parades in boats. By the way those are just so that we are all clear and have our cards on the table ask those are all my friends I grew up with okay. Yeah. Yeah I. Know Every bonking friend of mine in Tampa is is in those trump parades gay and he had called them what do you call e call them something? yacht supremacists and then I said Oh I call them yacht sees. And then? and. Then you go on ever GonNa make it in my axe I'm never I don't. Know as much as I. Don't give about politics I really don't care one way or the other I. Really don't I don't WanNa try to like I just want you to disconnect and if I do have a joke joke about a bygone if I have a joke, I wanNA play both sides offense fairly so they're both types people in the room don't feel like they're getting picked on. They talked getting picked on. Equally you know what? I mean. Yeah, I mean that's that's the goal. That's what I try to do. But you have a situation, our if you're even perceived as leaning one way you're out in your on forever. Yeah. Me Like you're out forever. That's the thing about you have. A real intolerance? In you know and it's so funny because like I'm a classic seventies liberal and then I grew up in San Francisco all my teachers that I that I worship they were all gay, all my heroes in college these wonderful gay people in theater in a and then everybody in it, and so it was like a a the idea of. Being anything. But like obvious you know like women's rights equal rights civil rights I mean like my mom's Filipino I mean like. I remember my dad was like the first guy in San Francisco to rent homes to. African. Americans in nineteen fifty four. Me said before the civil rights thing he said no, no, no no this. This is wrong. To desegregate and he said and he just made that decision. So that's the household that I grew up in now. But if you dare critique the left at all or are liberalism or tried to check some stuff that seems out of whack then you get labeled as this. RIGHT-WING SUPREMACISTS or whatever a racist I get called like the daily beast, which is like a just a shit Internet site. Says Rob, Schneider's proof of racism, and it's like an I didn't even look it up like my friends like one that was just you dress up as a Hawaiian guy. Do, that was for Sony. What are you talking about I? didn't write that I mean, I, had lived a lot of it but like. This is insane. To me the whole part of being an actress to play somebody that you're not and the farther away to you could be a better when I saw like. Peter sellars playing. He was the first guy who nailed that east Indian accent for the Party and I'm telling you the movie as a whole just doesn't memorable by him playing the gangling birdie known them but it'd be them years last year. It was so ridiculously silly. I remember like watching that movie when I was a kid and I couldn't breathe I, remember being on my hands and knees crawling out of the movie theater because my son occurred so much I literally on my hands in these walking up popcorn just to get I just had to breed I couldn't breathe in the theater and I know that's what I wanna do for a living I didn't know how to do at that time, but it said if I could do that. Movie where the the audience is is just like we know what it's like stand up when you're when you're getting them rolling slow slow down a little bit until they can't breathe and then you regroup and then get him again it's a wave of it and that that's what's The funnest thing if you lucky enough to be able to get that. In any way whether it's a movie, a TV show or stand up, which is amazing. So But at the same time I think I'm bringing up right now at least my I don't know where it's GonNa turn into right now I am talking about what people are going through but four comedy like in other words that's not being in quarantine what that's doing for comedy but I don't really feel like I need to tell them or I I would rather if I have a point of view I, think people will realize if they come see me I, want to subvert them to my point of view and not use the. cheerleading and the fake of of of using comedy for imposing my ideology I, call it through comedic imposition which I find that to be. Not Entertaining in a nine hundred and I think both of us would agree that like whatever Chapelle did that last the last thing you release, it was thirty five minutes was engaging. It wasn't absolutely hilarious lose engaging in two years and his last specials while they do have a point, I would always argue are straight up a Larry issue makes. Anyone know the last thing was a social commentary that was healing healing. Also I don't WanNa take that away I'm just saying I'm not that God. Yeah I mean no, no no, why you if you can do it. You know if you could do it and say something but I think the most important things those remember their to entertain. If you could do both. It's great. I mean I I've I mean. I don't even know I. Don't think you should guide where you're going and you shouldn't. You know it's like that structural side of your brain. You know it's like when people ask how do you write or whatever it's like well, you know there's a great book on writing by actually is called on writing Kenneth Actually discusses of some very interesting parts about creativity, which is the structural side, which is the left branch left brain. Donald. Will your brain in the right side creativity that's what you get up in the morning have forty five minutes of being silly in something you're right and then he goes away. Structural side wakes up a little bit later goes what the Hell you think you're doing. That is not bad. You know, and then late at night, the structure side gets its you know and when you drink structure side gets a little goofy. So and that's how it Kinda works but. It's riding in the mystery of it in. That's what they call the you know. The the the merciless mistress of innovation creativity is you don't know what it's GonNa Common. The idea that you're going to guide it completely is you know it's like, where did where does your come from? Who knows what what I'm curious I feel like I know a lot about your adult life am I want to talk to you about? You about how early time at Happy Madison when you guys were making Deuce bigalow hot chick animal like those early times when you're making those movies and I don't even know if having Madison made all of them but like I wanna talk about the creative of. The process was to be around someone like Adam, who could green movie for you and how you? Shared ideas or those my biggest problem when I first moved to Hollywood is I'd meet someone who is a producer and I remember being like how are you supposed to be around this person? Like do you not pick movies all day long to them until they buy one and then you may get your friends like You know what it's. He started He made two movies for universal and he offered them I to. Lorne michaels and. And you'll more happy Gilmore those first ones and then I don't anything. Goes Lauren had deal. At paramount, this is what I know. This is probably third hand and. I don't know what Lauren was involved in a bad time but I I don't know what he's restructuring the show or whatever, and I think it was just you know Adam had just left snl and so but Lauren didn't have the attention that he should have to jump on those Lorne. Michaels. Bruce SNL. So universal got the deal and those those two movies did middling which in other words they made their money it costs like I. Think Maybe Eight to eight million dollars or ten million dollars, which is a low budget major making any Canada at that time Toronto or someplace, and it made like thirty five million, which was good enough. But not like a home run like not like a enough to like do green light your movies are to get anything you want to make which turned it which he turned into. So the what happened was they offered at. This Casey, Silverman, which was the ahead of universal time. Offered Adam this movie. With chimpanzee. and. As like what is this? What you think of me? I'm going to do this this. Is what you know because his movies very, very funny. They're also very intricately done. Even the early ones are very silly and fun. You could watch them in the key to Adam and I remember watching like I remembered what the real key to him was anelle. As we were buddies before s now but on SNL, he did this thing during the Iraq war called Iraqi Pete, which was basically you know Baghdad Bob or whatever the guy who was promoting A. Winning killing the enemy and he's in a bunker like we're killing and and he did he did Iraqi Pete, the first time we saw live we laughed the second time. We laughed hard the third time we were dying the four-time. We watch the same thing the floor time we watched him we were crying laughing because he's doing all these little crazy things and the way he's saying things. Commitment and it was just a just a lot going on with him that you just don't catch right away. That's why his movies are watching my watch. A more watchable as they go is really are intricate unless comedies never win the Academy Awards because people dismissed them as easy simple but it's way more complicated in. It's really way more thought out and you know when it's done well. So After that, he felt felt like now that's not what I you know I'm not GonNa do it a movie with a champion So some other comedian. Did it some other comedy actor? And then. Everyone was the podcast is scouring chimpanzee moviegoing. Missile, you can look it up you'll find it. But. From somebody else that might be fun movie I don't know maybe like I've been dying with Jim you know what? I mean my whole career I'm sure it was so So he left and then did. The wedding singer, which was at at new line, and that remember seeing that jump in his filmmaking skills between that, and then the wedding which was really solid movie in that movie did like eighty million. And I saw that in like. He really was able to Kinda take all these experiences for most first few movies and then put it into that wedding singer, which was like I said, well, that's a that's a movie that holds up with any other comedy that's has been made in ten years and is it this is really or twenty years so this is something that like you know Warren Beatty in his. Shampoo had of days. That kind of that kind of era. So And then. He did you know the waterboy and I remembered he called me up and I just think Chris Rock performing. So this is all kind of happened at the same time it just soccer throughout San Diego, where you are in your life at this time. Okay. So the I'm in. This series men behaving badly. Oh Shit with A. Dole Tummy don't tell me I WANNA put my balls in it. Yeah Ron L. Dard was. Ronaldo was the first season and then the next season was the guy from the state. Yes the guide mistake. Yeah. Yeah he's very funny. I forgot you did men behaving badly he was very young. I forget his name now the semolina oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah He. Did men behaving badly he was very very young and and and unfortunately like that. We didn't really hit it off the two of us. You could tell the chemistry and I think it was also just the nerves of doing a I think thing and he's he's very sweet guy and just a obviously talented Ron. L. Dard round there was the first season the problem with that show was. The only reason because I didn't want to do TV I just wanted to make movies was coming off a string of movies and so NBC called me. It was like Warren Littlefield the guy who chose To winning to get rid of Johnny. Carson. And not pick. David Letterman that was Warren. Littlefield. He calls me up at my house and up in San Francisco and I just done a movie a couple of movies in Europe judge dredd and doing a one in Czechoslovakia. Calls Me Update list of all the you've in how come I can't find I. Remember I watched men behaving badly Two seasons it was tough. It seems that I said and so it was from carseat Werner at who did the Roseanne show which was the big show bus and they all became super rich off that show literally, it made that company and. They They made two crucial errors I said, I'll do it. If you ags I saw this show maybe battle England and I said if you. If you just do Redo the shows as they're written amid and said, we have the same executive producer. He's going to be BUBBA and then turn off they fucking ruined it. They came in and they switched it out and they got a guy they said, I, said, I want to be one of the writers. They would never let me in the writers rooms. It was a fucking mess. But but be that as it may it was no way when it became a performance night gonna I'm GonNa Knock it out and do the best job I can't. So pt I performed and would do you know and I, still kill it, and then they would use that against you like what were you complaining about the material it killed and then well yeah, I made it kill insane in my mind. You know I watched men behaving badly ozone on. Sunday. Nights on Fox. I think no, no no, it was NBC. Originally Wednesdays and then I think we did go to Thursdays and it was able hi I sidewalks men fucking behaving badly. I remember when Camerino got added and now I'm looking at Ronald Argonne Jesus man he's been in everything. He's a terrific actor. Yeah. It's again you got to commit yourself to the silliness and he did and for you know for to me that the blessing and curse of a dramatic actor is if you can approach comedy and commit to it like because I work with John Landis years ago. Did you know animal house which is like the most the really would change comedy? It's still like you know the if you go back and go underneath all the comedies. Something about Mary, whatever you go, get digging, keep digging GonNa go always animal house right there. You know that's John Landis. He loved to have dramatic actors who play things straight who understood the comedy had been played for the comedy. The problem is when you get a dramatic actor out there bird who's like who all get to have fun now and you start to see that. Whenever I'm doing seeing the dramatic actor in a comedy and I see the corner they were in trouble or in trouble now because he thinks is funny, he wants to have fun and that's an. As like like my Buddy Harvey Harvey keitel actor did he was terrific in we just did the all five years ago we did the ridiculous six with Adam and I loved Harvey but Harvey. When he was on Saturday night live, he couldn't get through a sketch with us. It was a sketch me and him together. 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Generation for today there are gun dot com slash podcast Faira Gun dot com slash barreau casts. Casts get it. It's actually quite net. CAST. So you so Adams doing. The first the. Wedding singer you're having badly. Chris Rock crushed rock and then. He. Is Doing. This movie calls me said I'm in Florida come out and do this one line or. What is it? He says is it it's You can do it and go what is it he said just get out here. We'll figure it out just fun. We'll have dinner that was his that was his. Now his his pitch we'll have dinner and I'm always up for a dinner. Come on explain it when you get out of here, you just do different ways and so sure enough basically, it was like a character that I did on Saturday night live Stevo. Steve Marino and it was a way to kind of do that in make silly way of doing things and showing up so they go. There's there's that guy don't want like you got to really care for others that guy is that's very close to are not exactly again. That guy decided that guy. So. Trust, him we went out and the thing that struck me about that movie was like the waterboy was, how would a good golfer he was he's a super competitive versus I remember I remember I was Saturday night live and I play tennis in high school I said, I'll bet you five hundred dollars right now. can be in tennis. And set six we left. got. Place to open up at midnight to one in the morning and he'd be be That's crazy. Competitive us. We've got the place to open up in Manhattan at midnight. He's not that way so. So he said we're out on the golf course and I played in a while and I see him in the sand trap and it's a nice golfing or like we were in Orlando. They got great golf courses there and it's like a drier grass with the ball runs really well there and. So I see him chip it out. Thirty thirty five feet from from deep sand bunker into the whole. All my and then I saw him hit another forty foot or like this. and. So I said if he's on and golf and he's really on his game on this movie and he really was he was absolutely on target for this and then made the quick changes to it. After the movie had come out the script was fantastic. It was silly screamingly funny and whenever they had like a a serious moment to express a story like it was a Like okay. When when the coach is talking to be really wanted gene wilder to play the coach. I mean I think that we're all heroes in and then like that was one of the the ideas you know and then gene wilder wanted to play the whole thing in in drag the whole time. And and so I said, well, you know that kind of have thought out to do this, and so it didn't work out But then like we ended up, he ended up meeting A. Henry Winkler. Henry's really. He really is really great now. Is Really Great. distal perfect time the guys who do sitcoms at they really they have to make really quick changes boom boom and know how to work in front of a live audience and he just miraculously small and big winning need to be. He was perfectly in that. So So anyway and the movie I did it in a different ways and then it got a big laughs and then they reshad and had the added the and do it all night long and I remember like in that movie we were doing another movie. For Sony. His first pitcher for Sony was big daddy and we're in I mean literally, I Adam at that time did not have the. Power to hire anybody like to hire anybody, he wanted I should say and so. He wanted me to play this one guy that you know the father of the real kid in big daddy and the student who said No. And the and I said, don't worry about it was an honor. We'll find something else I said, don't worry about it. Just you know your I'm fine. You know and he said no no no, we'll find something else and. Because the studio wanted John, Stewart by that role at that time Don store was hot and everything and it's Kinda crazy to it's a weird casting because Jon Stewart. So so so lovable right now. Liking him in that movie. Yeah. It was gasping. He was a step in that. He was perfect like like that guy. So and then he called me and said, listen this other role with this guy it comes by in its. Social worker. And I said all right and he says, you know what? Truthfully that's not a guide I got a guy better than that for that. They get Josh. Marcel. Was a great guy zero Steles son was another great stories I got zero must sell these days Josh must though yet zero mastel was a guy who is like a night at the forum. Back at. Josh. Josh Mostel yet zero. Mostel is his dad zero Mostel was like you know heavier in fiddler on the roof and like in on. So I mean, he did he was. He played him I don't know if he was him in the movie but like and then he was also in the Producers Zero Mustang's. Original. Producers this guy is crazy. Crazy genius in in that ended perform who committed to him and gene wilder were like know maybe the greatest to to some. So anyway, he calls me up and said listen. There's like. It's one line in. It's a it's the delivery guy and I said, it says Chinese here. How do you want me to play? You'll figure it out. It's it's just one line. Don't worry about his. No we'll make something of it will make more of it. So he literally they fly me out a one line. Okay. So do one line one day. That's it. And Adam would call me up and say listen just. GonNa keep you here for another week. I told them keep you here for the week just come in. Tomorrow we'll figure out. Some. There's no, there's nothing in it. So the next thing I would be very uncomfortably being in there and I was not on the script but I'm like that dresses like character and the next thing you know I'm sitting next to like the kid in him and like that wasn't in the script. Really so The next day I suppose to leave just no no stay. No No, we'll come come on over. So we go sit in the sauna and then he would come up with some jobs for the next day. He would come up with jokes for me in scene. Yeah and then I would come up with something like when the when the social worker knock on the door was nothing. So you said just you know go up in so go up and they said like save something and I do always I know you you'll lose order three piece of cheesecake. And that was like you know one of the AD leads. So it was just his strength was to have a really good script and then make it better as you go keep making a better, keep making it better and edit out what what the best, and then just keep what's the best, and then I was with him in his apartment in A. Hotel Room. which is also when I realized, he was a star is he's my buddy Adam Sandler. But like I remembered like you know when you have a hotel and there's like a balcony, well this. This. Whole. This had a balcony that just went forever. It was like a balcony. You GonNa play football on an holy Shit. This is his room and the visit another room and it is a kitchen. Man is I didn't even know that they had those rooms in hotels. I didn't know at that time so. And, then I was with him when that night in. October of. Johnny like Ninety, seven, Ninety, eight, yet nine, Ninety, seven, Ninety, eight when the waterboy came out and it was the first movie that ever made thirty, nine, million dollars in October no-one done that that's like you only bring movies out in summer and the only movies that make money like a ton of money the opening weekends the summer in Christmas that was it. So this is he was the first guy to go watch how you can have a big weekend. If you have a big star at everybody is excited to go see and that was the key to him. Those movies that I said did middling like a universal thirty, five, nine, hundred, For Billy Madison and for Happy Gilmore but in video, it was over a hundred. The video that's that's a different world back then. What the box office made one thing and then and then when video came out, that was a game changer. Because it was all of a sudden. Parachute for every movie for every movie company. It was their parachute that was their way to save them from crashing because it. It would. It would soften any blow if their movie didn't hit in the theater well-managed GonNa? Make money on video we'll be fine. And so but he was not just big gigantic. He was the biggest guy in video and so it made sense for the studios jump in and. Did you guys. Here's my question though how did you guys get from? It's interesting. I see your career I see yours and his career very, very differently like when I saw. Happy Gilmore I was in the movie theater. We all watch Billy Madison Fraternity, House as in the movie theater and we were crying laughing and we're like, this is our new Guy, right? So this is. Like he's one of us, he's like. I remember we took turns running out to the car taking bong hits and running back in and. And so like so then and then I remember I it's funny. I do remember the wedding singer end waterboy end. A big daddy I remember big daddy being like the. Like a movie star now I remember that feeling like that he whole but but but I'm curious how do you go in a friendship? Tour where he's Putting you in things and. You're in. You're in already all these movies already in sitcoms. You're already working already probably a millionaire at the time. and. Then how do you like how do you negotiate your friendship to then make Deuce bigalow? Well, it was very interesting because. He suggested to for me to write. A movie in because I was talking about like. Because everybody just thinks like like they don't realize that Adam really does everything I mean he works with really really downs at people like Robert Smuggle work with with. His his main writer from. I'm blanking on his name right now. No they Schwartz. Also writes but the the guy from the either Schmidt, the Great Irishman gotta think of blanket his name and I'm sorry. Two young kids of not getting any sleep. When is his name now He's who's written a bunch of movies with probably more than than anybody the great stories together from college they were together. It's not over. Is it eleanor? We don't know covert. Come on I i. get like six kids. Five Kids Irish. Irish today is long God I can't blanket on his name. God forgive me. But anyway. So So he he was writing it right? You're right. You're movie and if it's if it's good, will will produce it and I don't know you're right about he said, just figure it out. I'd figure find something funny to write about. So literally went up to my place. JEREM CISCO, which is right above Chinatown and. Went down a place called Sam woes who I was hanging out when I was in high school because you know that was the only place that they would let you drink beer if you were if you're underage. So if you're sixteen seventeen on his place, they called Brown t they just give it to you and It would serve Heineken to Saturday night because they just hurt they were in a hurry. No one's bothering. Chinatown. And I. Honestly, this may sound like crazy racist but like. An older Chinese people we look the same unless this fan. dudes look the same to older Chinese gentleman. So they would just serve as yourself went down there and got some Chinese food. I. Walk Up Three blocks to my house on Washington Street there, and I started watching I. I gotTa write a movie in I the right about whenever I, start flipping the channels and I just see is stop. Lauren Hutton is very beautiful from seventies that'll stop you if you're a heterosexual male who who was like three in the seventies. See Lauren Hutton. You're gonNA stop what is this and it was it was that Richard Gere movie and I remember why Senator? What is he's getting? Beautiful beautiful women what did they can get any guy that they want and so I said who are the real women that would need you know a Gigolo and that was all I just went in the other room and I wrote that down and then I started writing down some and I started writing and then I started laughing and then you know. A wrote this with Harris Goldberg. Who is the WHO was? Awful attention deficit disorder, and I don't like to call it a name, but it's definitely an issue and he would literally grab me click me at a starbucks facing the bathroom said you get to right into right into I finally was able to write the stuff down and we went in I got into a role with. Where the staff were dying laughing and then Harris came up with a girl. What is she still tall? We never see her head and I went let okay. That's great and I said Oh. My can we I said as. He. said he said do you think we can do that I? Don't know. and so then We we wrote the first it was eighty four pages and then Adam said Hey I'm going to Hawaii. Pack a bag which is a great phone call to get and. Then I had eighty four pages at that time. You know I didn't have a computer was literally like you know. A printed out and like had like the pages and he said and I was looking at it in any civilization ask my script instead. So you have the script he says, you write something out you have the script. On it and it's very natural that he's like, what are you looking at your own script I'm working on this? He said Gimme that. GimMe that like that you know very violently. He has this kind of violence and Gimme that you know. So he's sitting on the plane. His plane and that that that he had, I don't know what deal he got to get over and he's reading it and I saw him just giggling in giggling and laughing stopping and just. And doing this and I like an an you know when you have somebody like woody laughing at what eleven Trying to fight that urge because I wanted to get through it. And I never get scripts like this. Why does he said to me? Why isn't anybody write scripts like this for me? and. So I. Said Yeah Yeah finish it will make it. You know we gotta finish it. Oh Yeah. Yeah. No No. No I'm going to finish it and I'M GONNA Finish No Like. See like. We just start making it. Up there. And so my head is spinning well, I. Can't think about. So I said, you know what? I I can't believe I can't just take some time off and go on vacation right now. So I went back to my room and I said. I'm leaving I'M GONNA go back to finish the script I'm going to do it. I'm going to get out of there and I said, all right I'm going to do it. So I told you know. I. I. told his agent at said Hey I go back and rights I get offended me. I gotTA finish this He liked it. So it really liked it. So I gotTa do this. Sorry I said I'm GONNA go back. So I called pack my stuff said it's one of the Nice rooms he got me beautiful room and And Watch is going to. Take a dump I gotTa take a dump and I'm GonNa go right to the thing I said let me just go to Batman. So I literally on a toilet constitute tour I, swear to God I'm sitting on the toilet and all of a sudden Adam I'm in. This is one of those. It's an open room, the whole rooms open and everything, and it's like it's not a separate room. He literally opens the door. Walks in with his agents. Hey, what are you doing? I said I'm I'm just thing you're not leaving. You're saying you're not leaving no no I'm GONNA finish that strip no say you're saying said stay here will make it just stay here have fun with us and then we'll go home and we'll make it you say here will make it right And I said the my life has changed. They'RE GONNA dump here. And it did. It absolutely did and then that was the first movie he produced. It wasn't his. Diet is an IM- US like. If I remember this correctly and I don't know exact numbers but that was a big fucking movie that did really good that movie did more money in the ex the ex you know in the secondary thing in other words the DVD DVD's I started. In Two thousand that movie made in the year two thousand more money than mission impossible. God. Dang. It yet it only made a one. It was like a million dollars less than the green mile. So is that year in in like DVD video and all? It was a Green Mile Deuce bigalow mission. Awesome. power that gave gave us. But like literally I could at that point it was you can do anything you want and it was like because there's that much money they realize you know and that's what I realized is trying to make movies a before and after and now was realizing the difference in like you know you and I make something WanNa do something or do you know your next hour or trying to make a movie you're just trying to do. What you really think is funniest right and what and but that's not how the executives work in I realized what it was like Oh they don't work on some making it the funniest. Or. What they think what they'd like to see they work on trying to delay their inevitable firing the longest. GIG. Like they know they're gonNA get fired and they know they're going to get fired soon. Chances are is everybody else is getting fired. What what, and the only way that they could keep that going is the tie themselves to a boat that if that sinks, it's gotta be such a big boat. It takes the whole studio down. 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To the point where I was like I was like I maybe I'm not talented like I got to like I think four, forty, two years old forty, three years old and I was like I remember thinking maybe I'm maybe I'm not talented maybe it's there's something that. Like something happens in the room when I do stand up that it's good but it's not like I've never been on the are never made the like ten hot young comics to wash. I've never been an industry darling but I was working and I was getting last and I always had a good sense of humor like I would I found funny was always good and so I was like Shit. Nice. About tastes and then I and then I started doing my own greer. where I stepped away from television entirely stepped away from everyone entirely unjustified stand up and did instagram videos and stupid ideas. I thought were funny. I would do like like fucking me and Tom did a weight loss challenge and I remember I was in a deal NBC. At the time and they were like you need to focus on your Sitcom and I and I. Remember being like I remember they called my wife and they're like he needed a burt to like focus on the. There's a big deal and she's like Oh. You don't understand burt like he is obsessed with weight loss challenge and making these videos and taunting his buddy and the rock just reached out in and commented on it. That's where his focus is and I shifted everything. Away from anyone that would give me notes and now plays on like I could use an executive every now and then. I know it's tough but I will say that it's been absolutely liberating doing stand up again a basic all I've done the last ten years more or less is just stand up and. Interest in do you have an interest in? Because I watched your special and it was fucking awesome. But it was I, mean I I. The thing that sucks the most is. And I hope you take this as a compliment. You Myself. Any Everyone is going to be overshadowed when your daughter starts singing that is fucking on only sees things at the end her voice is so fucking different than anything you've ever heard and so magical. So overwhelming that you hear her in your like I can watch hour her singing like. I I love it, and I call it because I didn't know what we're going to do, and she's such a sweetheart, my my daughter album she's She picked the song and she only really pick that song. She knew that I knew it. And and. Do. What the fuck why I said you know I don't know if this is GonNa ever happen again what I said just come out I'm going to film this special just coming out. Let's figure it was the song together and so she put this song together and then I I. We'll see what happens. It was very magical was also nice for to acknowledge the. It's it's tough having a famous dad. So for her to climb out from underneath that in the have her own career I'm really happy and proud of her it really is it really has to be tough to have a dad. That is especially like and I say this because I think I'm in the same boat is a dad that is a silly goofy. Hey. I'll be the guy in the SPEEDO. I'll be the guy in the Thong. On the big screen. That's me spend. My whole career is like I have a Netflix series coming out with an IT gets announced. Thursday or maybe congrats man place. Yeah. Well. Yeah. But I'm fucking totally naked in it like I mean it's like it's everything that I find. Funny. That you do in the moment that you're with your friends and you're all laughing hysterically, and then you're laying in your bed going God. dammit man my fucking naked. I duNNo. Sister. Called me one time and she said like, will you warn me next time yet for you do it I mean. I work with. People. I didn't enough in the my daughter she she told me she didn't go to school one day because you wanted to see how the reaction would be after the movie came out. Realize that. Wow. So that's like so it's not it's not normal. But I this is was. Twenty years ago, which is different in a way slightly I didn't think it was but now looking back now it's innocent twenty years ago now, a social media and everything and the. Instant impact than the instinct contact that celebrities offer and give to their fans. It's unbelievable. So that's really what it is. So I, when I did my excited a Netflix series for two seasons and call rob and I said I wanted I thought what would be the next elevation in In sitcoms and entertainment is. We really watching a reality thing here or it, or is this really happening, but it's scripted and still shot in a beautiful way though I don't WanNa Watch reality show I wanNA watch something shot and edited well with music and that's written and so that's the whole point of like. Of doing something, he's the right because the years a scripted, right? I don't really know what mine is. It'd be very I. Mean I I know that this is not the branding Netflix's looking for we started with on thing. We found out that that was a tablet on. Doable. And then we we did another thing and then in the process of doing that third thing I think we figure out what the show was. And it's just it's. It's I. Don't know what it is to be honest with you. It's just very, very funny like it's it's really funny for me, but it's also like very I will say very cancelable at times in every episode, there are definitely things that in done. That will outrage. A special interest group one, hundred percent. Jenner on it we have and we've Caitlin Jenner, but it's you know it's like. You're. It's not it's not this woke agenda. I don't have that in me my agenda silly, and so it's it's just to make a joke and so I, I don't dead name or anything. But like I definitely. Don't pretend that she is. An entity talked to so. So, yes. So I think everyone's kind of been concerned I know comic was on it was concerned. Yeah One episode. Totally really. Oh Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. No, there was some things that were the we had to cut out of the comedy special to yeah I I was wondering I was wondering I was wondering what you took out. Yeah I'll tell you some time. I will tell you time but it just became. Sensitive things became because I'm I'm a mixed race person so the The sensitivity of things rose while we were about to. Release this all the sensitivities in people? Losing their minds you know rightfully rightfully. So they were upset S- people are upset in A. Just be conservative and and it's like again, you have your joke and it's really funny but. then. You have people who like it's an empire. It's a you know this is a You know thousands of people work there, and so there there are other things that are separate from your. You know you have to have to have those considerations. That's why I do like like all ever wanted to be like truthfully just character actor in like the not like. Just to play different characters and and and have a career like. But unfortunately, like in show business, you know unless you can star in movies those those little rolls don't pay anymore and so those as far as I'm talking about. You know If you look at. You know the Humphrey bogart movies like Casablanca and you see Peter Laurie like. I need to pay. So trains it. Does have to have them the fact Maine has the papers in the is to do all those. I, did every voice in that movie so I like Humphrey. Bogart shed a lot of things last night in Houston. I. Do think now on I've done a lot of thinking chance since my childhood I would just tape recorder just record all these things tried to all the voices and so that will teach me to do it took a while to figure it out, and then you get like one or two words, and then you'd be able to figure out you know like for Sean Connery was like you know I saw he did a commercial for US advertise movie. And it was on the news because it's not about Japan bashing and like bashing that's a good way to say get that. That accent that scholars broke by boxing So that was fun stuff to do and. You're so good at little things like the little things like this sounds so silly I must've watched. You clear a regulator on the wrong MRI. That you clearing regulator and just lit. It was so funny and it was so silly that I was like buck in. Talking about, yes there was the wrong missy and the thing about that was. A David Spade and I had worked together in a few years But like from those SNL base. You know you're up there. You're only as good as the guy you're wis you always supported were they go go with them. I remember. I talked with the Prop Guy said, I'm in charge of the boat. I need the dive equipment and he said You have you gotTa tank on you a regulator in he said Yeah it looked do you want the work? Yeah It I need it yeah and so I David came over and was just this thing where you don't think about it too much just go with it and she were leads and I just saw him out of the corner of his eye and I just I know that that. Don't laugh Gillet I saw his when he stiffens up like that. Don't laugh. This could be really working go with it. It's just as body language and he knows that I'm doing a bit whatever and I just saw soon as he turned and we're like I got. A and then like I tried to my mouth and his mouth. Was So funny because I am this is gonNA, sound like a like really burt, but at that moment. I I did not know what to expect out of the wrong messy. I didn't know if I'd like nine I, Love David Spade I really do but I didn't know if I was going to the movie and I. I was laughing so hard at that movie from beginning to end. But it was things like. I felt like I was like. This is what's important about this group of guys is that they're sitting on a boat and they can make just clearing a regulator which you've seen everyone do it's happened on every fucking dive trip the Guy Go. Yeah you're good. You're good and everyone suddenly goes on that's going in my mouth now. The two of you doing that and you doing it. It was and I thought this. What's important about comedy is is that these these relationships have been. Matured over. So long of a time that they're making little things funny. But you could never right into a script you could never say like here by the way, this is something that this is like one of the funny. This'll be great in a trailer. This'll be great. You know what I mean. and. I was like God it man and that's where I got so excited to watch your special was that one little moment I went act and it goes back to that Merrin interview where I'm listening to go in God damnit for God, he started as a standup remains. Insanely diverse career that you go. I forgot he's just a guy who's at the beginning wants to laugh and wants people to laugh but laughter's it. It's it. Laugh is came mandate. That's the that's the thing for anybody who you know the Academy Awards with the one thing they want when they get up there when they go to present given award, they want to get a laugh his comedies isn't always will be king you know it's the the thing that stand up special that that that Adam Sandler likes the most that I did in the Asia Mexican kids was as I'm the. Korean. I was doing as shows for the American military. In Japan and Korea when I was create like you get. Korean Barbecue in like What are we going to get today well as screen barbecue and they said, well, I just had it and they said, well, let's get it again and they were gonNA. Go again and then like in every time they bring the stuff out and they're not like cooking for you. Know Like I. You know I would have never thought of that joke unless would have been to you know three times in saying. Bay Korean Barbecue. And he said it should you know? What I said I was basically asking how long I this you you cook. Could you know like all right and then that was it and then I went on stage that night and I started talking about you know I'd hate the re-re. Cook it and go to the barbecue. Go you cook it no, you could and paying thirty bucks come. Here you go. Get you. I hate to go to a Korean or house you know hey? Come on and this is the room where you you you. You Suck Your Own Dick, you sucking use socket, you suck it. And I remember and then I did a little funny walkaway as I walked away. In the. Remember. That's what Adam laugh the hardest. So it's the little tiny things that you can put in that make. That stuck in my head we we had. We had a guy just got back from this thing and we had our friends WanNa together, but they wanna stay socially distant. So we had four stations for three families three stations set up of Korean barbecue. So you're with your family, another table with their family, know that it with their family. We're also talking and and I could not stop saying that you cook it and then I kept. I, started adding onto that joke going. It's such an irresponsible way to cook to save because my daughter's eating pork belly basically raw and I'm like. Making It doesn't seem like it should be legal. It's funny that I stuck my head and I'm sitting there doing I'm having Grand Barbecue at our friends house. They got a little a little grill out and it was and I kept going. No, that's fucking hilarious. That's great. You know. In Chinatown there was a rebel in San Francisco right below where I used to live a You could go down there and they order turtle and they but you can't take the turtle out of the store. He had to kill the turtle right there and has had like I've had turtle soup and it's good and everything but. I also like something some so cute. I don't Wanna eat it anymore now but they. Just walk in and I say this turtle being brought up status ed like. This is not a level of cruelty. Chinese. Food like the ducks they're not only killed duck, but then they hang. In the front of the store like you know it's like it's like a duck holocaust. I imagine killing a turtle. Myself. Yeah. So. So so what what's the plans for touring? Do you guys know when you'll go back out I? Just so funny mentioned that 'cause I just literally said because I just had worked. It's funny but I'm not promoting any gigs coming up just because I don't want any shit from people you know. But I know that you're doing how were those because of you that I did this car show David Spade said, you know bird stone it? They said Burchill what a car show he asked me to a car show Omega David Spade I let me tell you something. It's there's a lot I will say this. Because I know buzzcocks probably listening. But It is. It they need to be run right like in those shows you guys were in Irvine or were you Ventura I saw that? I. Saw where you guys were the ones in the middle of the country are the best the best one of the world's in Butler Pennsylvania ones in the middle of the country because. especially like I'm trying to Ohio's are pretty good is they set up these big tailgates at the back of their trucks anywhere with got trucks 'cause they bring. Trucks. Back into the thing set up their little, there's a great one in in. God that they've actually created little spaces for you to be. But I can give you all the great ones to do. Yes and the funniest Shit and you you let everyone know come out stay socially the distant tailgate have a time bring beer even the they say don't bring beer beer bring cocktails bring we ain't what you're. GonNa do. An. I was very clear upfront. I said I'm doing this because I want you guys to get her house but I also want people like myself who would not probably get out of the car I want them to be able enjoy it as well so that everyone can kind of regulate themselves. They are fucking great. He began in a week to do another tour and is probably my last one of the year but I've done I've done now. Will be my third tour and I Think that but there's look there's a lot of parts like I had to figure a lot of things like lightning shows up every now and then and I've done shows where there's lightning in the background to shows in some places aren't great 'cause the second show didn't start to one morning and you're like Oh God. I love him I I have a blast. You can hear them laughing because of Russia's like a you know that's the other thing is you got you got set up the rules to it because they don't know the rules as you had to say like. Like I did one in Pennsylvania it was like four thousand people and I said bring I said before this I said, bring your trucks, bring your vans, bring the car of the Group of people that are in. That is the most fun to be in and set up your station there, and so then basically everyone's out of their car, they're still in their space but there Mike Autobahn, and then you hear the laughter if they're in your car in their cars like straight up in their cars, you won't be able to hear any. Just, all do those I I did this one is so funny but I was I did. Did the car show amy and that's my killing I don't. Joke once, and it was a slight delay and I heard any. ECHO. Echoed right now. I swear to God on the way home I'm driving. And I was drinking a little on stage shows a little buzzed, which I probably shouldn't have been driving. When I'm driving home and? I. Just. I got cut some guy off anyone like any a haunt a A. Show. The Guy. was at the show. So. I tell you man Allah I'll. Get I'll get your get your number and I'll tanking the ones that are They're really fun. There's one in North Carolina's out of this World Columbus and there, and also you can't. You can't have too big of a venue like I've done some that are like really massive. And you don't want to disconnect you on Butler Pennsylvania starlight is the greatest drive into show at in the world in the world, it's carved into a mountain. So it's tiered up. So everyone sees the state age. They've got three screens. It's Butler. Pennsylvania's the best one. I've ever done without a doubt. BUTLERS got A. Really. Interesting stories in the people live in Butler but trying to think of exactly the. Story About Some guy broke into his own mom's home. Crazy story from twenty years ago. Okay. I'm going to do it check it out. I'll give again you're my my info through three people also good luck with this show me. You're making the announcement this week I think I've nnounced it. We just we just added a bunch of shows. You're know not. You're doing the TV show for net flicks Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The huge Netflix has like the biggest pull of an audio announcements today at four PM. Wow what's coming up four PM on the east. Coast thirty three minutes listen if it's good I'll hit you up to do season to duty. You gotta I'd love it. It's unless it's a fun. We just basically took comics into the woods To this cabin and we just partied for a day, we did some shit partied and then end up. By fire talking about it and it was it was there were no rules. So comics, you know you know how you a comic no rules and they'll give you a way more than you ever need. And then and then you get the tax the next day like you're not using that are yeah. I know that was the thing like. I would do something to make Adam Laugh in a movie like in fifty first dates I told the guy said, give me join. In And so now you know because what happened was every guy that I knew? GROWING UP WHEN SPEND SUMMERS IN HAWAII? They would wear these short shorts and a tee shirt. That's all you needed because that was the weather every day and and then even get older they're still wearing same ship. They don't have the same body anymore. Hanging out and so I thought I thought that was funny. Add my character where that and then so I said giving you join and so I put it. Just. To make. Adam. Laugh I literally put it in my ass cracked and I just you know I didn't tell them so I just get up to leave you know and I just show him my ass, the joining my ass, and then any kept it in the movie. Yeah, a great man listen I'm going to go get a root canal. So today. I got a I had a really bad to take the beginning a quarantined and it was a root canal and then I'm very I'm very much like get it out of my face and then I won't want to deal with it and I haven't got it repacked in L. Three months four months Just suggest this maybe not a root canal maybe do they take titanium thing I know it's painful. Yeah because. What other surgery did they do where they take something dead? They don't take out your bureau panics and leave something dead in you. Something dead in your, you have ten thousand. Ten thousand little capillaries and it creates a bacteria. So I'll have say this a friend of mine had a lot of problems like headaches and Migraines and everything, and she took a couple of those inputs attaining things. He has no problem depth that meet I have I have root canals. I've had no problem but I'm just suggesting that something you can think about. Picking a xanax right now I have I got him out the baseball but when I was eleven and I have twenty six fake teeth. So I have so many root canals. It's ridiculous. I had so many root canals at one point they took my gum off and lifted gum up and just cleaned out the roots and then sewed my gun back down. Wow but doesn't mean it's. Put your teeth back in my own teeth kind of I mean if you saw an x ray of what my real teeth like they are. They're all shattered. So everything's kind of crowns and Veneers Yale my God will think good people doing it again there's no pain headache. No No. I'm good I'm good. I get. I'm weird though like I don't. I. Don't I don't like I feel like I bounce back really quick cy party so much. If I don't drink for two days, I feel superhuman. But you must work out though to get that. Working I work a lot of fat because I like to Party so. You can do that in your forties. I'm I'm I'm fifty, six minutes eight this point I swear. I. Had A couple a couple of like I'll have a couple of glasses of wine, but remember had too much and I felt like was the next day. It was like the entire day and then the next day and I said, why am I screwing up several days over this? But you got enjoy life to. We'll do thank you for doing this congratulations on the special What a beautiful way to end it really was it was like you look at that and you're like God. Damn it man that was like it was a perfect with the whole family up there. Thank you. As the as things go on this time goes on you realize how special it is now short it is. The career and you never know when it's going to happen again and it's just nice to bring everybody up and say, hi, like look I one include people as I whatever I ended up doing coming up next. A couple of movies and see if that happens or another TV series but I wanted to do is nice include my family. That's also Nice about the real rob TV show up to work with my actual wife eroded together. Did it together and we made the whole first season. We sold it. netflix's in the name paid for season two. It was amazing. So it's one of those incredible things, but it's quick man flies by so you got enjoy it have fun. I'm panicking now. Joy Love and gopher season two and I'll see you on that one. Awesome. Thank you so much for doing this brother King growls best. Thank you burdens a pleasure. This episode was brought to you by the machine.

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#EERS S9 Ep20: Iowa LOLOL

The Erick Erickson Show

1:59:09 hr | 1 year ago

#EERS S9 Ep20: Iowa LOLOL

"Praise the Lord. I am back. Welcome it zero Erickson here the full number if you WANNA be a part of the program is eight. Seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five We will see how my voice dusty. y'All I got so sick last last week it was it was bad and so thankfully I am back on my feet and we got a lot to talk about talk. Talk about So I laid in bed for three days in binged watched the extended cuts of Lord of the Rings and I feel like return of the king returned to the talk radio. Show host here the turn of the tide. Goodness Gracious Iowa last night. I I gotTa tell you maybe maybe we should have worried about something. You got a bunch of Democrats in a room. Talking about unviable candidates. I'm surprised they didn't have planned. Parenthood on standby. Oh this candidates not viable come. I'm on in Bland. Berry was just. It was bizarre and then to have the absolute meltdown. LemMe Lemme see if I can walk you through the state of play on this one of what actually was supposed to have as a what was supposed to happen in Iowa. The caucuses the Democrats and Republicans do it slightly differently and it'll be helpful to explain the process so that you understand how the screw up occurred in be the smartest person in your circle of friends that Republicans when you go into the Iowa. We'll caucuses a proportional meaning that everybody gets some level of delegates but there's a cutoff limit to the number of delegates that can be gotten and and The Republican delegates are bound to their candid. It meaning when you go in and and let's say let's go back to two thousand sixteen yet. You had all the candidates there and Ted Cruz organized the most in an organizing the most he was able to win the Iowa Caucus surprised a lot of people a lot of people thought Donald Trump might win win. And it was Ted Cruz and you went into the room and the people who wanted for Ted Cruz stood in one corner. People would've trump sued another corner. People WanNa Jeb Bush in another corner of people who wanted to I me you name the candidate. They all stood in corners and there was a level of viability The viability meant you had to have. At least in some cases depending on the precincts is fifteen people to be viable. If you were in a group and you only had fourteen people you then realized that your candidate was not viable so you either had to persuade someone to come to your group or are you had to go to someone else's group and once you did that you were locked in and you had to support that candidate so if you were in a group. Let's say you were an Jeb Bush group in there were fourteen people you need to fifteen and Jeb. Bush didn't get the vote. Then you had to go to a candidate who did did. Let's see what Ted Cruz with the newer stuck. You had to support Ted Cruz the highway through whether you wanted to or not the Democrats do this differently in Iowa. AH IN IOWA. They've got the the minimum viability. They've got a minimum threshold. And you can jockey for position and in the Democratic Caucus. You don't coaches have a first round you have a second round. So with the Republicans you have one round the viability. You'd better go find to candidate and stick with that candidate with the Democratic Party. They go through a first round of Ability and all the candidates who make the minimum viable threshold get a first round pick and then those candidates that don't have enough enough people They'd have to break up for a second round the viability and see where those people go to add to the numbers so you can see a candidate on the second round grow. Well here's the problem. I realize that's confusing. But what's more confusing. Is that what has done in the past asked is they count who gets what Peru so Bernie Sanders is I Elizabeth Warren Second Pete Buddha. Just Third Joe Biden's fourth and they've got cut off period for viability between what round one round two. meaning that in round one. Let's say your minimum is fifteen and in round onto your minimum is thirty double the first round So e by the end of the first round those people who don't have fifteen candidates the people who want to stay reshuffle to other groups and once they've reshuffled other routes let's say Joe Biden's group had fourteen people so he was below minimum viability for the first round. Well on the second around. He attracts some people from Amy Klobuchar Andrew Yang and. He's able to get up more more more people. He's able to clear now. The second round is thirty threshold and he's now able to clear. Thirty people will. Joe Biden is going to get delegates as a result of that but he's not going to get as many as the others because he wasn't in the first round. The viability is a confusing process. It is hard for veterans to understand and explain it and the Democrats decided that they needed better more expeditious more capable reporting than what they had so robby mook you will recall Robby Mook. The name sells for your for you. He was clearly Rick Clinton's campaign manager. He's the guy who heard Bill Clinton say that Hillary Clinton needed to be in western Pennsylvania Wisconsin and Michigan and chose instead to ignore bill. Clinton that Robby Mook Robby Mook decided that he needed to develop a software off where program and Got Democrats to go in on board with a highly technical technological solution to a problem they viewed as a technocratic problem that was is Bernie Sanders after two thousand sixteen did not like an end yet. We got a circle back to two thousand sixteen again here. I'm trying to make it as easy to understand as possible. And it's still very complex. EXP In two thousand Sixteen Bernie Sanders did not like that they were giving out. Delegate totals Bernie Sanders wanted actual vote. Totals the problem is the actual vote. Totals are not how you tablet tabulate the delegates because I has a proportional system so Bernie Sanders wanted three things Bernie Sanders toward of the total votes per precinct for for him. He wanted the mathematical formula formula to show how those votes within translate with First Round Integra viability into candidate in delegates by precinct. And then he wanted the actual actual total delegates. What's frustrating with this is that e there are seventy nine hundred precincts in Iowa in one thousand nine counties seventeen hundred precincts and you don't get a delegate Elliott forty one so there's a complicated math mathematical Michael Formula. That has used well in the past. They've all done it by hand. The Democratic Party up ended its process. And and this is this is the ultimate point. What you gotta pay attention to hear? The Democratic Party up ended its process after two thousand sixteen to placate Bernie Sanders supporters. Who Believed Hillary Clinton had stolen and I are from them and they decided the way to accommodate Bernie Sanders who by the way is not a democrat? He's not a member of the Democratic Party. The the Democratic Party decided to placate breeders by coming up with a software solution that was designed by Hillary Clinton's team to give Bernie Sanders all of the data. He wanted they never field tested the APP. The Atlantic magazine actually had a huge huge profile on this firms. A couple months ago that no one really knew who was in control of the APP How secure the APP was whether or not the APP could sustain heavy traffic It was never tested away. Rigorously tested to make sure all sorts of problems and so they deployed last night. The president may begin his State of the Union address today tonight and we still not know who won the Iowa caucuses. That's how bad it was. It was a catastrophic Hata straffic failure as a buddy might on on twitter said may maybe they should have unplugged Iowa and then plugged back in to to see if that would help. The whole thing was deeply deeply problematic and and we don't know what we do know for certain is that Joe Biden has get out of jail free card because Joe Biden imploded. Joe Biden's whole the campaign tanked in Iowa last night a Pete Buddha did better than expected and Bernie Sanders ran away with it. Elizabeth Warren was deeply impacted by it. Now here's what happened. That made things frustrating for the Sanders folks at the Sanders. People are really upset today and there yet again claiming a conspiracy. There are two stages to viability as I mentioned to you. There's a first round and there's a second route. Well when you get to the second round with the Democrats in Iowa you and Dan Repetition and re lobby well. They were dragging on so long. Because the data couldn't get out the data wasn't getting to the State Party so amy Clovis took to the national airwaves last item begin to make a pitch for herself as a second round candidate to boost votes. Will then that led to Elizabeth Warren and and Joe Biden both doing it. That ultimately led to Pete Buddha judge doing it which I gotTa tell you some people. Some savvy politicians last night noted. There's a red flag issue there for Buddha judge in that he waited until after midnight eastern time to come on stage in make a pitch for second round viability. That matters because the people in New Hampshire already in bed after midnight they'd given up watching and most of the people in Iowa go given up and gone home as well the caucus riposte to end at ten PM. Clova Shar showed go to level of savvy there and Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden both ran out in the process stopped on each other. You had split screens for Elizabeth. Warren Joe Biden. It was a savvy. Move by CLARKS. It's not gonNA get very far. But it certainly was a savvy move on her part will the Bernie Sanders. People are Livid about it. They believe there's a conspiracy the Bernie Bros. are out to get the DNC see and again the whole reason. The mess was started is because they tried to placate Bernie Sanders from Twenty sixteen it's fascinating though to watch a bunch Bernie Sanders supporters upset at the redistribution of votes in Iowa. Now we may never know the winner. It is a huge screw up at does not help that we are. We are choosing XENA presidential candidate with coin tosses in Iowa. You cannot have highs in the Iowa caucuses if two people get twenty devotes and those are your top two contenders then you have to have a twin twin costs. Sorry I'm still sick. A coin toss. You GotTa have a coin Toss dos and so there were multiple precincts last night where you had to have a coin toss to decide who the winner actually was who was going to be first place and it was going to be second place really really amazing that that was how democracy had to be settled. How vote had to be settled and I mean the Democratic Party and I was just as huge black? This actually happened. I I WANNA play for you this audio from CNN last night An Iowa Democrat crat on hold with the Democratic Party trying to phone in his vote talking to Wolf Blitzer. Got Back to you soon as you have more information. Jeff thank you sean. Sebastian's joining us right now from story Carney's a precinct secretary out there. What can you tell us about this delay in getting any results show? We'll I have been on hold for over an hour with the Iowa Democratic Party They tried to I think promote an APP To report the results the by all accounts just like doesn't work so we been recommended to call into the hotline and the hotline has not been responsive. Explanation Hearing Sean. Have you gotten any explanation at all as to what's going on. No I have not no. I'm just waiting on hold and doing my best to report the results from my hearing. I know you're listening to a conversation. from the Iowa Democratic Party This this is a real coincidence wolf I just got off hold just now so I've got to get off the phone to report the results report. Can we listened in your report. John John Yup Right. Okay Hi Hello. They hung up on the day. Yeah Okay so frustrating indeed Sean where to stay in. Close touch with you. She wants from story. Caveat in Iowa a precinct secretary just wanted to report the results of the caucus there and clearly for an hour he was on hold finally got through and then all of a sudden. It's not happening now and by the way this this didn't happen to them it also happened on. MSNBC see same thing happened on MSNBC. Rachel maddow was talking to someone the guy gets on hold and they hang up on him they the hang up on the meanwhile the Republicans are out there. Actually aiding and abetting the conspiracy theories. Here's Rick Santorum for seeded last night. I think they've taken a situation that that is well. I think look there. There may have been some problems in the transmission of these folks but the fact that they're not Providing any detailed information is is a real problem for them because it just leaves open. The you're mine talk. If if the if there was a problem identified the problem. Tell you tell what happened. Here's what in give details to give confidence that. That's that's what's going on. But the fact that they're hiding the ball this late at night with with the campaigns and this just has I'm sure everybody worrying that there's more to it than that. That could be a real right this deal. This is a sample of how not to handle a difficult problem yet. No kidding So the a lot of democratic voters believe there is some sort of conspiracy theory now Particularly Bernie Sanders supporters reporters. Who are want to believe conspiracy theories anyway? They believe the parties aligned against them. Then they're not wrong on that But this was a major technological problem last night talking about a collapse collapse of institutions. I want to talk about that later in the show this collapse of institutions the Republican Party in two thousand sixteen the Democratic Party now Absolutely bizarre are and on top of that. You've got now. You're moving into New Hampshire. Pete booted you should be able to bump out of this but it's not just them. You had the des Moines Join Registry and Seltzer poll. Collapse as well Sunday night. A harbinger of what would come on Monday. You you need to understand that aspect of it as well. This was a colossal screw. Grew up in Iowa They only do this once every four years. Maybe just maybe. This group was so bad this time. We'll finally be able to say we can stop going to Iowa every four years but good Lord Sinden planned parenthood or something for the this non-viable caucus on the democratic side. I so I need to explain to you the Des Moines Register poll whole scene. How my voice does Welcome back by the way Ericson yes I am back to the land of the living good gracious ratio. was I sick. It's good to be back and you know I I gotTa tell you I was Gonna come back yesterday and my wife All but ordered that I not come back and and my producer Irbe. Oh scared of my wife so we say we did what she decided and he but here I am today. What a day to come back in one of the things that I would have mentioned to you yesterday and explain to? You is the an Seltzer des Moines Register. Poll they paired up with CNN. This time and you do. You need actually Kinda understand. This and I don't want to be in the weeds with you but I want to actually Explain stuff to you and in some of these things I guess we could say are harbingers of what's to come. The end cells are pulling is never accurate but as always better than everybody else's pull meaning meaning a the the end cells are pulling it till she is an Iowa pollster and has been for decades. She is probably the most respected pollster in the country. And she will pull around the country but Iowa is where she specializes and she's been doing Iowa caucus polling for decades now and an end cells. Ripoll is the gold standard because she pulls more people she was one of the first pollsters to realize she needed to start pulling cell phones she. She has a massive accumulation of people that she calls and she does a very good job of polling. Not People who say they're going to go to the caucuses But people who have actually gone to the caucuses focuses and that's very big because a lot of people say they're going to go in this time we actually know That if you want some concerns for the Democrats headed into the general election their caucus turnout turnout was down. They actually had more people turn out in two thousand sixteen than this time and in two thousand sixteen to candidates that should be troubling for the Democrats that Republicans actually turned out well for one candidate. Democrats turn out poorly for a bunch of candidates. That's a problem for the Democrats But Seltzer did hid her polling and apparently Some of the people in the call center they use a culture in the way these polls are done a and you say by the way. Never go to pull People who call me well If you're registered to vote and your full number landline phone number is attached to your voter registration that increases your odds of. I'm getting pulled if you want to be pulled if you're if you want to be pulled you need to be registered to vote and you need to have your land line fine attached to your voter registration number. That's how you're GONNA get pulled people not a cellphone but a landline. Yes they sell. They sell cold but not as much So in any event so cells irs police they use live humans to do the calls and more than one callscreener had the text blown up so much it cut off of Buddha ges name now. What's so remarkable about this? Is that Pete. Buddha Buddha judge came in third and the cells polling it was Sanders Warren in bondage and remarkably. That's about what happened in Iowa Pete. Buddha judge had a remarkable surge in Iowa enough. so He's calling himself. The Victor headed into New Hampshire. Today I'll tell you what the real story story of Iowa should be that. No one's paying attention to Joe Biden wiped out wiped out completely -pletely wiped out Multiple suburban counties were Biden should have done well could not reach minimum viability. And because because I will was such a screw up. Joe Biden can go into New Hampshire without that being the story. The story is the Iowa caucuses were screwed up. Not that Joe Biden Fell flat on his face in boot. `Age did better than him Booted you just going to be hurt by this in a way. That Biden is going to be helped by this because has the story is going to be about the screw up. And it's going to overshadow how everyone did. We may not actually know remember. It was a week after the two thousand twelve caucus that we learn. Rick Santorum actually beat Mitt. Romney is gonNA take a while for this percolated. Meanwhile Joe Biden is going to be able to go into New Hampshire without having to have over his head. It is Eric Erickson here across the the state of Georgia. The phone number. You WanNa be a part of the program. Share your thoughts on the Iowa Caucus eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to I five Let's roll the Pete Buddha. Judge tape here if we can Buddha Jesuit on CBS this morning declaim himself the winner. If I can bear with me one second It is Internet issues this morning. Here in the studio we've been having Here we go or the Sanders campaign also saying they're essentially victorious. There are people online saying that your claim of using the word is. I think the Hashtag is mayor. Cheat in retrospect respect you think it was a little premature to take the stage and use the word no looking at what happened last night looking at all of the data that we've got it was an extraordinary night and We you are absolutely victorious. Coming into New Hampshire. I mean this is a campaign that when we launched a year ago. People said. You're not a senator. You're not a national name. What what business this to somebody? From a mid sized city in the middle of the country have running for president said. We shouldn't even be here and now here. We are in the position that we are in a coming into New Hampshire for what we think will be another historic night a week from today mayor cheat that is the Hash tag that is trending globally. He right now on social media mayor cheat for claiming victory. It appears he might have come in Third Place Behind Sanders and Warren. The guy on twitter. I follow just tweeted this out Pete. Buddha judge assuming himself to be the winner of a massive in-house process meltdown is very on brand for management consultant. That it is indeed. Here's Van Jones about what boot `age pulled off last night which actually is impressive. Presser because you have a gay man who did the impossible if he's number one if he's number two that's a big deal he talked to his husband is husband came out with them. That you've not seen that before in American history on Primary Night Caucus night and that was a huge deal and he deserved For the the numbers to be running below him while he was giving that speech. You got robbed of that. I think it's terrible. I think Biden. Got An undeserved undeserved lifeline. Tonight because again I think an ambulance about to drop on his head. He got chance to kind of scoot away like Wile E. Coyote but I'm GonNa tell you from my point of view You know this is. This is The bouncing he deserves all this stuff. Your your prediction is more true. You kind of said. Hey listen whoever comes comes out of a good night's not going to be able to enjoy it. We didn't know how true it was gonna be but I just think it's worth just taking a moment to acknowledge history was made night We had a gay American. Get that act closely the first or second. Give me like that and it's important and it should have been. It isn't enough. Listen He's right. There is a level of history. Three here with Pete. Buddha judge a millennial gay mayor from South Bend Indiana coming in third and appears You Know Iowa is never. We're good at predicting ultimate winners. But I was very good at at wiping. People out in Iowa should wipe out Joe Biden and Joe Biden. The Guy I've said all along I think Biden's going to be the nominee and it's looking like It's his race losing. He's GONNA lose it. It's fundamentally looking like he's going win lose it. Air Is an absolute meltdown. And part of the problem. That they're gonNA have to deal with as the Democrats is what to do with the Joe Biden versus Bernie Sanders Anderson. Meanwhile other you've got Mike Bloomberg we haven't even got the Bloomberg yet. We need to get there. But let's Chris Cuomo lasted about the Burner Situation Ryan. You make a lot of good points one of them. Is You know. They changed the rules and streamline the process because of what happened the last time to Bernie Sanders so if anybody wanted to come out on top you know he finished at the top here tonight. That's one more day of being on top. That's one more day of momentum. It's one more day of raising money and attention and he has been denied that by this process. But we'll see New Hampshire just days away. He is denied the process. He is denied victory. Just as Joe Biden is protected by the collapse APPS. And that's where some level of this conspiracy theory is coming in on the democratic side among the burning bras that the And by the way let me just say out of the the gate. I don't believe this. I don't think it's true but it is certainly beginning to buzz online in certain corners of the Internet among Bernie supporters that they saw that Biden was collapsing and so they pulled the plug on the APP that it was designed by Hillary Clinton supporters. They don't like Bernie they. They screwed him in two thousand sixteen. They're out to do it again. In twenty twenty and so they did everything they possibly could undermine him and in so doing We're able to pull pull the plug on the APP collapse. It crash it make it not work so that no one would notice that Bernie Sanders was winning and Joe Biden was losing. There's your conspiracy theory of the day by the way. It does not help that. The I can't laugh to are going to have a coughing fit here but it actually is really funny The the the the company that designed the APP the Hillary Clinton forces who designed and the APP The name of the company Shadow Shadow Inc.. That's right shadow INC Meanwhile wilders happening right now. President trump according to Gallup His he has hit forty nine percent in approval the highest It has ever been for the president's approval rating as the Democrats. Have this meltdown. And I you know this is actually. This is a pretty amazing week for the president. When you think about got it you've got the Iowa caucus meltdown in again it is? You gotta understand that this was a downturn. They were expecting fifty nine highly energized. Highly mobile highly excited highly passionate highly angry democratic base to show up and voted. The Iowa caucuses last night. And what did they get depressed. Turnout fewer people showed up for more candidates last night that in two thousand sixteen the number of new people who showed up was less than what they were. We're expecting and here's another interesting thing. Only eighteen percent of the people who showed up at the polls according to the entrance bowling which aren't super reliable but are fairly good but only eighteen percent use twitter actively that's actually an interesting data point when so much of the political press particularly on the left is fueled by social media so so much of the coverage that you get on a day-to-day basis now in the media is generated in large part because of reporters on social media and the people who went to the polls in Iowa. The last night of the Caucasus aren't engaged in social media. It's just. It's the remarkable disconnect. There were were. You think. If you're on twitter for example you think everybody else. It must be on twitter and and be in the little circle and they're not It's very interesting to watch now. I WANNA play a couple more audio for you should know by the way you should know I got A. I wouldn't say angry but it was. It was an aggravated email on Friday. That I have been playing more audio. The person would much rather hear me. Speaking analyzed is the play a lot of audio and I said I'm sorry I've been losing my voice so I'm playing audio to compensate for it in that to some degree but there actually is so much to wade through and and I also don't want to steal the points that other people have made in their teens. You need to hear in order to digest the calamity of what happened last night including this exchange on morning Joe this this morning. What is wrong with Iowa Democratic Party again? This is a party who botched the call. Four years ago rushed it. When the media was shocked that they would be so transparent and and now they get on the phone for seventy four seconds? Atkins the world's watching this. We're not being melodramatic for a year. And a half American politics has been focused on this moment and the Democratic Party has a crappy out and there's nothing happened to that but then you're hearing the reports that something did happen to the APP Wizar- election interference. Did somebody hack into. The APP was just pure incompetent as the information loss. Yeah did they lose the information. John why were they only on on the phone for seventy four seconds when they should be holding to our press conferences explaining to America and the world. What happened while yeah? In Chris. Hayes is meltdown really kind of a worst case scenario. I think for the folks that organizes caucus the Iowa Democratic Party says it's simply simply reporting issue that it's not a hack on intrusion which I think is important to note here and I think it's also really important to stress that there is a paper and Pencil record write that this was not got a secret ballot. This is the opposite that the data exists. The data in fact was collected very publicly with the utmost transparency. Meaning people read out the results to a roomful. People often even with cameras recording broadcasting. We saw that on air so there is at least in theory. There's a checkable record. It's not lost at said damage. Done is pretty significant. Both of the confidence that never kind of party and for campaigns looking for bumped out of tonight's results think. Listen I mean talk about casting doubt on the whole process one last audio bit for you out of this. Well I got a couple but this is what I really WanNa play in Andrew through gang a few minutes ago I caught up with Andrew Young a candidate when he arrived here from Iowa and New Hampshire questions about the legitimacy of the process in Iowa on the results. As you come out or are you gonNA wonder hey are. Are these fair. Well I'll certainly are. Take the folks in Iowa word. I mean I'm sure they would not have wished this kind kind of delay On anyone and so like the data. I'm sure we'll prove out. They have a record of most all of it. A lot of it happened in Public Andrea came out this morning and said this is why we need a president who understands technology. She you know like I disagree with Andrew Yang about almost everything but while he's such a genuine human being And it it's it's nice to have a normal person how they're seemingly normal person running for president even with some of his Kooky ideas. He's not angry about it. I mean my goodness. This guy is running for president of the United States. No one knew who he was six months ago and he got. I don't get delegates out of Iowa last night which is fantastic for him or at least potentially got delegates out of Iowa last night we don't actually know and and that's kind of the funny thing here. The the president's going to have the state of the Union address tonight he'll be acquitted of impeachment tomorrow and we may not know who actually when I went till next week. This very much reminds me of two thousand twelve. Actually when I got my that was my first Iowa caucus the first one I've ever been to in two thousand twelve and Mitt Romney Verses Rick Santorum and that night tonight Mitt. Romney declared himself the winner in it became very obvious in the overnight hours that Rixon tour of had actually won and Sanatoriums party was just jubilee by the way that that was also my inside peek at the American in political media which was actually somewhat. Funny I was sitting next to sitting next to a very prominent national reporter who was at a different network at at the time and there were there were two Prominent reporters for this network. Both of whom were vying to be anchor at that network and the when I was next to was the one who knew everything but was not the pretty boy and I will never forget a Charleena's home talking about I'm not GonNa say it on air but I'll never forget that I'm sitting next to the reporter who's a brilliant reporter by the way I scrupulously fair Wonderful human being and ease. They're asking questions in his. IFP that that's your PC wears And they're asking him questions for the other guy. And he just explodes In expletives that he is not going to do the other guys work for him if the other guy wants the anchor position so bad he needs to learn how to do his homework and learn politics so he can say something about it instead of having everybody else do his work for him because he's eventually going to be caused by just went on this tirade and all the people at all the other networks were kind of staring at this Guy Thinking Ooh. That's that's that's not that's probably not a good thing. It was only a few months later that he left that network. He's now at a better positioned good. But wow I it was. It was something so we're at the door of thing in this. Interestingly enough as it was also when I decided I didn't much care for Rick Santorum Because Rather Santorum Torma vinny you know as a man of the people attitude are persona and I saw him deeply belittling Staffers at this hotel all and then a reporter with up and asked him a question and he just tore into the guy for no reason in the reporters just as nice he could be in Saint orbs already given the information to a different network in the reporter tried to explain. Sir The the different network is going to share this with us. We're happy to give you more exposure on the story in Tantrum was having none of it and I realized everyone can have a bad bad day but that was the the first of several encounters I had with Rick Santorum where he was absolutely belittling totaling. Two people he had no business being belittling to hotel staff and others and a and I realized it was a stressful life for him but still I felt deeply deeply unfortunate and and have never really cared for the guy sits at every always such a wonderful person. You know when when nobody's looking at your treating people that way That that says a lot to me it was was an eye opening experience though hanging out in Iowa that night man it was Alex Castellanos than I at CNN and we wound up going back to the hotel bar like two o'clock in the morning. According to Mary Matlin and Donna Brazile had been there and they had ordered us a pizza and beer. The bar had closed so they're sitting there with with warming beer and cold the pizza. It is five degrees outside and snowing and we're hanging out until three o'clock in the morning drinking and eating eating eating. I mean stale beer and cold pizza and then I realized oh I got an hour and I got to be back on TV. And I haven't even had bed Hadn't gone to bed. It was it was it. It was an exciting time Back when I was young and can do stuff like that Iowa's it is a heck of a thing and the meltdown last night. That's going to have reverberations throughout route this democratic process. Because you know I was got to have delegates at and by the way just so you understand. The the votes have been counted Iowa. Each precinct tabulated the results results. The APP was about transmitting those results to the State Party so they can do a manual. They've got the votes. It's unlike the vote has been hacked. Each each precinct actually does a hand written ballot of all the numbers. That does the math and everything on the piece of paper. All the APP was designed to do to efficiently transmit that data to the State State Party. It completely broke down. It's amazing they tried to be so transparent that there's no transparency at all now because the APP crashed And yet we've actually they have the data so they'll be able to give the Deli. Totals the problem. Though is that the candidates were hoping for a bounce out of Iowa and now the only story Out of Iowa will be the gross incompetence of the Democratic Party. Hell low there. It is Erik Erikson the phone number of the program. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm going to sneeze or an eye getting over this cold Thank God commute button. Man I hate being sick You know the big winner last night the Electoral College Wjr the Electoral Gracious The Electoral College holds up. Can you imagine Agean having a national election Run like the Iowa Caucus. The Electoral College Matters. And that is that. That's why listen I I could spend all day on the Iowa caucus but there's other news stuff to catch up on from when I was out sick and stuff coming up the state of the Union of the president's GonNa be acquitted In the Senate tomorrow Joe Manchin coming out in favour of censure and we got Georgia News. We gotta talk about as well including the Kelly Leffler Doug Collins race That is already getting nasty. We'll get into that but Before I do anything else I want to mention some some of you who listen to this program regardless of where you are in the state of Georgia will I know the name grover suspend he The oldest Owning continuously owning Harley dealer in the country is in Macon Georgia the Harley dealership there and Mr Tasman Grover Sassaman passed away. The other day His funeral will be today. A World War Two veteran he weedon and ahead of Macarthur de make Make way for Macarthur in the Philippines to make headway on the beaches and Was a mechanic in the marines. Reads a sergeant put together two planes corsairs. He was a mechanic on corsairs in the Pacific Theater. He put the front of one in the back of another together. Two planes plains. The the the back of one of the front of the other were were damaged badly he knew they were gonNA shove them overboard. An aircraft carrier so he worked tirelessly to put together these two plains plains the front the back to get one viable plane out of two others To help with the invasion in any pulled it off I interviewed him back in August. I played for the interview before. Just just a fascinating person into the end his mind was sharp as a tack. He could tell you the difference in corsairs. We actually flew into making In August to the Middle Georgia regional report and he could tell it was a a three Blade Corsair Apparently there were three blade and four blade corsairs and he could tell the difference between the two and it was describing to the pilot the difference it's between how they sailed it. Just a remarkable human being came back after the war moved to Lakeland Florida. Mr Davidson from Harley Davidson. Asked him to move down there to open hardly dealership ship that was headed up Charlotte North Carolina to open one Got Stuck in Macon Georgia and Mr Davidson said. Well you know what open when there and he did. And it's been around ever since he. He was a heck of a man a true American patriot. He'll be buried this afternoon in making with military honors. It's just it's we're losing our World War Two veterans at such a pace. Now there are none left of World War One and And fewer every day of World War Two and it. It's just it's it's nice to remember these lives of people who came after the war and and help build this country into what it was and he did here in Georgia sell it a lot of harleys released to a lot of people including my wife. Who now has her Harley fat boy that she rides the countryside with when we come back the state of the Union addresses tonight? What should we expect? Act Hello and welcome it. Is Eric Erickson here. The Erik Erikson show across the Georgia. Thank you to Alan Sanders for filling in for me on Friday and yesterday while my voice came back Still recovering from whatever it was but man I I went to the doctor on on Friday morning. They tested me for STREP. And for Flus said I had the symptoms of both and tested negative for both and my doctor was actually at a town a it was the the nurse and wanted me to do. Ib Pro Finn and sue ephedrine in Moose. Next on the like and by Friday afternoon they called and said Hey we're calling in in about six and a steroid pack because that seems to be doing the trick for people so I got no idea what I've had but holy cow. A lot of people have had it and it was just awful. Thank you number of you. Have e mailed the check in appreciate it very much I am doing on the mend at least Now we got a lot. We gotta talk about beyond Iowa I will take your phone calls on all of that The full number here if you'd like to be the program. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. That's eight seven seven nine seven the three seven four to five happy to have you call in but let's get a real quick to the state of the Union which will be tonight Across well the nation we will. We will hear all about it. I'm sure this is a good week for the president. Actually when you think about it You've got the the Democrats a failure in Iowa last night for the world to see the people who want to run your healthcare and the economy couldn't even run a caucus last night in Iowa. You've you've got a his. They will throw out impeachment tomorrow. He'll be acquitted of impeachment tomorrow. It's fascinating to see the Democrats. Say Impeachment is forever but somehow acquittal is not he will be acquitted. Tomorrow in the Senate Lisa Murkowski saying she will vote to acquit. The president she thinks what he did was wrong but not impeachable. It's amazing the the media doesn't want us to have nuance standards anymore. I used to be really big a nuance not anymore. Now when it comes to this president you're not allowed to have new. He's either a guilty as sin or he's not if if he's not is because you're a hateful bigot protecting him because everybody knows he's guilty as opposed to what he did was wrong. But it's not impeachable does it doesn't rise to the standard of impeach ability even if if you don't think he should have done it which is actually a fairly good senator? And by the way it's one of the Democrats employed with Barack Obama when it came to things like fast and furious or when it came to the IRS arrests that it was bad it shouldn't have been done. It sets a dangerous precedent the future but it's not a beach will of course is not impeachable swiped so many people don't take the media seriously and stuff like this us and then of course there's the state of the Union tonight now. I've got to tell you. I hate the state of the Union. I've never particularly cared for this to the union but it's just gotten worse over the years That he really should deliver it in writing but of course he wants to the spectacle tonight and Democrats are some of them are thinking of boycotting the address because they don't want to be there with him as he gives the State of the Union address. They're afraid he's going to go on on offense against them and he should frankly. I don't older whether he will or not I wouldn't surprise me if he did It was as we see buoy the floor of the House with Nancy. Pelosi letting them do it. We'll we'll see we'll see if they l. rise above it tonight. I'm not optimistic if anything. Frankly I think it'd be fun at this point to see something like that but the state of the union is a great scam. It is the great Americans scam. I started covering the state of the Union for CNN. Back in two thousand in fact let me tell you a funny story I so you all can have a laugh at my expense. Can't believe I've told you this I YEP WE'RE GONNA go there because my wife's not listening right now Mother she would probably want me to my very first of the union covering it on television was for CNN in two thousand and I worked for CNN from the end of two thousand nine Through the president's inaugural in two thousand thirteen and then moved to Fox in two thousand thirteen where I was until the beginning of two thousand eighteen. And hilariously Leery ously I I I got my first paycheck from CNN. And it was way more money in one paycheck that I had ever made in my life. being on TV TV paid. Well so I get this check from CNN. And the first thing I did is I bought a new car. I had had a falling apart car. I mean it was bad falling apart and they're literally was duct tape on part of the car and so I went out and got a new car. Got A brand new Toyota forerunner washed I missed that Carson man. I loved my forerunner But I got that and I got a big green egg. I wanted to be green egg. I I I love to cook. I wanted to be green egg. I got a great big big green egg the wooden table. I gotta get a new wooden table now But I got the Big Green Egg. Well if you've never used a big green egg or or anything like Kit Those sorts of of smoker grills eight. You've got a Burp the big green egg if you if you're grilling now what I mean by Burping is you got a raise. The Lid just a little bit to allow air in to start the flame because if you just open the lid the the way it contains itself is it. Suppresses presses the flaming hot there's enough air circulation for the coals to glow into burn four or five six hundred degrees. But there's not a flame so if you were were to open up the big green egg all the way initially the air would hit it. And you'd have this huge fireball. Come out so you gotTa Bourbon Urban. It's kind of like a backdraft if you've ever seen the movie backdraft You've gotta be careful when you open so you open it just a little bit and you get a air. You're in there. It causes the flame. You and then you open it all the way and you're not gonNa have this big fireball. I knew this so I'm using the big green egg for the first time I'm grilling burgers is the day I discovered after buying the thousand dollar big green egg. My wife doesn't like the flavor of charcoal so I used to be green. It's still but only for smoking grilling I use a gas grill But anyway so I. I raised the LID. I've got A. I bought the Big Green Egg. I intended to use it. I had to fly out to see it in to Washington the next day to be on. CNN for state of the Union. And I raised the live a little bit. I lowered that I raise it again and big Fireball comes out my goodness I. My knuckles are singed and I go inside carry the Burgers in and I keep thinking spur. Still spell right spotlight hair could not figure out what was going on and again I I got to be on. TV The next day a flight out the next morning to Washington for CNN and I set the burgers down in the kitchen that I go in the bathroom to wash my hands. He ends and I realized. I don't have any eyebrows. Not only do I not have any eyebrows The the hair at the front of my head is gone. I mean there's nothing there. It is incinerated I have no eyebrows eyelashes heff curled up and I have no hair like right at the front of my right right at the front. There is nothing it has burned. That's what I was smelling and I got to be on TV. That I oh I wish to went to see it in the next day to cover. It was my first day of the Union address I'd been invited to come to Congress to be on the floor. Couldn't make it but was was was able to be in studio for CNN. A big deal. And I get into the makeup room and the makeup artist looks at me. She says you are the first man I've ever had to draw eyebrows. Arousal and sure enough. She had a dry basil. Because I didn't have any they were gone. Thanks to the Big Green Egg. It was it took him a allowed to grow back it. did I completely incinerated my eyebrows. It there I was on scene and The the only man on air that night who had painted on eyebrows Thanks thanks to my girl. Everybody got a great laugh at that but That was the night I was so excited. is going to cover the state of the Union address and got to be on CNN. It was Barack Obama. Two two thousand ten Obamacare was headed into law. All this stuff. It was celebratory mood for the Democrats and I knew the Republicans were coming It was going. That'd be a big deal for the Republicans. I believe that was the Joe Wilson. You lie when two as well so it was a big of the Union address and we said all sorts of big fancy he things and and it dawned on me three days later. I forget what it was but I was on. CNN and we were no longer talking about the state of the Union no longer talking about the state of the Union address. We'd moved onto something else and that was kind of an Ha Moment for me and I've noticed over the year since then that we pour vast amount of attention on the state of the a union dress Typically if I wasn't sick I do an evening show in Atlanta and typically I would do it overnight show posted the union where we assess What happened at the state of the Union? The impact of the state of the Union. We take caller reaction to the state of the Union or the response. All that stuff We pour our energy into it. It's a big media moment. AH The everybody has a fancy graphics package you got all the people go to Capitol Hill. Everybody gets dressed up. The president comes in. It's it's pop it circumstance. They follow the motorcade down. Pennsylvania Avenue Avenue and three days later. We're talking about something else. It is at this point a ceremonial waste of time. And this president particular and no offense to the president's supporters but this president has inevitably killed a positive you cycle for himself after the state of the Union. Have you'll remember last year state of the Union address. I think it was last year to year address. The president of the United States hates gave an impassioned plea for border security any highlighted families who had members of of their families that had been killed by the MS thirteen gang. Any documented the brutality that gang how takes advantage of open borders The drug trade. The like it was a powerful moment and it actually drew bipartisan. Praise the president's defense of Border Security and need to tackle this gag. Issue drew bipartisan praise. There was a Washington Post story about how he missed thirteen. It was invading local high schools in the Washington. DC Area and a culture of fear was coming over certain poor high schools in certain kids. Kids were moving into the gangs. It was a public schools. Were becoming a training ground for the gangs and the president was right and he needed to do something and by the end of the week the president had crap all all over somebody on twitter and everybody forgot about the state of the Union address his impulsiveness and lack of self control ruin the new cycle and he did himself a disservice in his twitter. And I can't even remember now who. He was attacking on twitter. But it wasn't a it wasn't seeing it in a it was a it was somebody. The president went after and it gave the media license to abandon. They were going to abandon it anyway but he could have made made it to the weekend and had the president made it to the weekend. With state of the Union it would have been the dominant prevailing conversational. The Sunday shows so he could have gotten an the entire week's worth of news out of the state of the Union and instead he went on the attack. I think it was something about the molars more investigation anywho. This huge attack went on the warpath and it completely overshadowed the state of the Union address increasingly. This happens in such as president. Even even the last President Bronco Bob and before Him George W Bush we could go a few. We could go a week and then we would move on on now. We're moving on the next day and this week. Of course it is designed to ignore the state of the Union Union. You we will still be with. The president. Takes the podium tonight at the state of the Union we will still be trying to figure out who went Iowa and the Demaro. It'll all be forgotten because he will be acquitted of impeachment of the Democrats will be losing their minds on on television so this is a state of the union that is is not going to be well remembered I I would suspect. Of course that means. I'm going to be wrong. This is going to be the one that everybody's talking about forever But but if the pattern stays we'll we'll be moved on from the state of the union by Thursday really this case we'll be moved on from the State of the Union by tomorrow because of impeachment. And we'll go through all the pop at all the circumstance we'll go with all the high minded punditry rhetoric and everything else and tomorrow. We'll have already moved. Auden forgotten it. We live at ever ever faster pace of society Heidi to begin with and in moving onto this faster pace of society and moving onto the these new segments it takes a lot of discipline in Washington. DC by politicians to maintain their focused and this president more than most lacks the discipline to maintain focus and now with the new cycle as well. He can't help it and it's just I it seems like we're we're going to give it way more attention than his do given how quickly everyone's GonNa Forget the State of the Union Address Bhai next week. It is Eric Erickson here. The full number of the program. Eight seven seven nine in seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Don't forget to sign up for our activist army More and more important these these days as as the the news tins do get overshadowed and I can keep you guys informed of what's happening on the ground around the country Text the word Army two three three seven seven seven seven texts army to three seven seven seven and at the bottom of the hour You know with the State of the Union tonight My Buddy Phil Kerpen from American commitment. That is GONNA stop by one of the things. The president was to focus on in the state of the Union. Today is health care and You should be advised if if you are familiar with the AARP AARP that it is essentially. Now it looks like Taking money from certain healthcare organizations to push their plans and they are inevitably the Democrats plans which is not a good thing so he just be advised now? I WANNA put in perspective where the president is in the run up to the state of the Union. Gallup Allah has job approval numbers out today and this president is at an all time high for him at forty nine percents On the same day in two thousand in in in two thousand four George W. Bush was at forty nine percent on the same day in two thousand twelve. Barack Barack Obama was at forty five percent. So this president is doing better than where Barack Obama was for reelection at the the same time He's only three behind Clinton he's got nine months ago to election Clinton was at fifty two Bush forty. Nine Obama. forty-five trump forty nine George H W Bush lost related his His support was at forty seven percent at this time. Carter was fifty eight. He lost it at Reagan. Fifty five so so you can only put so much into the numbers but but still interesting benchmark for all the people who think this president for surest toast not necessarily eight. He's got a way to reset ED recalibrate with the State of the Union tonight He wants to focus on immigration. He wants to focus on national security and he wants to focus on healthcare though seemed to be his the big three things but what are the other things he intends to focus on is criminal justice reform. You probably heard the super bowl ad. where he really is is is leading into criminal justice reform as a way to pick up a black support? This is the lady I Alice Alice Walter. I believe it was Who was in jail for Longtime Kim Kardashian lobbied the president to pass criminal justice reform to let her out? She was at a lifetime sentence for Dod Violet of selling of drugs Family to start start over this the great stay of my life. My heart is just burst with granted. Thank president it doesn't John Trump Donald trump and I approve this message that that was a powerful super bowl ad If if you missed it Google the president's add people knew the president was going to put an ad in the super bowl and virtually every person thought in the commentariat that it was going to be a rally the base ad no one was was expecting a criminal. Justice reform add particularly one that focused on black voters. The president came to Atlanta earlier this year and said he was going to make a real play for black voters now. Interestingly enough every president says that's what they're going to do and few of them actually do and this president if if there's one thing we've learned about this president He is very good at keeping his word of these things where he says he's going to make a play for a particular group of voters he makes them play for that particular group voters and he wants to use criminal justice reform as a way to make an make an impact with black voters. All I gotTa Tell You The prevailing cinnamon out there as well. He's not going to be able to. I don't think that's true. And even if it is he only needs a couple of percentage points if the president could pick up a couple of points of black voters he can offset any loss of support that he's already had on his side he could replace part of his base with someone else's Base and particularly Bernie Sanders a an an eighties socialist communist Guy From Vermont runs for the dimmer. Is the Democratic nominee depending on who is running mate choices you may very well see a significant portion of black Hispanic voters both go to the president. I realized that that we're we're you're convinced that the president is racist. You laugh at that and say it's impossible but I'm telling you the data is there for this president to be able to make a play in a way that few others have been able to make and it's going to be interesting to see if this is his first message for reelection on the national stage it's going to be interesting to see how his message translates when it comes to the state of the Union. Tonight it is Eric Eric sitting. Yes is the voice says is. Jj says you can call in We do take your calls. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four or to five. I will sit out another recipe. y'All got the red beans and rice last week. I'll send another recipe tomorrow if you want to be on the recipe list and this list is not for sale a you're not gonNA get spam. You're just going to get a recipe Maybe once a week if I remember a text the word recipe two three three seven. Seven seven. I it's just the recipe and the reason I said a recipe. I know it sounds silly but I am increasingly convinced that we have become such isolated people. that it tried to encourage encourage people to take a simple recipe and cook it at home with your family. Your break bread around the table is actually a good healthy thing for society. You know I so. I started seminary a number of years ago. This is not where I was headed by the way. But but here we are I started seminary number years ago and I did so because I kept being asked to preach on Sundays and I felt uncomfortable. Not Having been to seminary in yet getting asked to preach and it's been a deeply rewarding experience I've had to take off Two semesters to get the show off the ground and I'm ready to go back But one of the things in taking the prophets class I I really fell in love with book of Amos but also renewed my appreciation. Asian for Jeremiah is. Aa gets all the hype and and obviously for obvious reasons in scripture but man Jeremiah twenty nine seven seek the welfare of the city in which you're an exile Xilin pray for it and and there you will find your welfare Really struck a chord with me as a political activist frankly because So many people get so worked up about Washington. DC and the reality of the situation is that in Washington DC. You're not gonNA find your welfare. You it is. It's not a place. Washington is not a place that's going to affect your life as much as your local community and I feel very very strongly that as a political activists we need to work more in our local communities for the welfare of our local communities for the benefit of our local communities and part of that is is just getting to know your neighbor. And so. That's one reason I do. This recipe list is just break bread. Even your family your or your close friends. Br Break Bread and get to know people so text the word recipe two three three seven seven seven. If you want to do that now I want to actually get on the phone here ear with Phil Kerpen From American Commitment Phil How are you. I'm Eric how are you. I'm great thank you for doing this at perfect timing to with the state of the Union today I was just actually talking about it in my last segment that it frustrates me in that the president gives this big thing. We we treat it as some great thing and then by two days later we forget it. I know one of the things he wants to talk about. This year is healthcare. And I know they in fact I've already seen ads around in the run-up to it on the news. Networks the AARP P and others or push him trigger healthcare plans and I'm always struck how it seems like it's all the Democrats plans that they push yeah interesting in the that that. AARP AD The sort of quasi praising trump by using last year state of the Union where he called for lower drug prices to push Nancy Pelosi price control. Bill which which is what that ad is doing although they're they're kind of subtle about it Pretty clever especially for the Fox audience. They they know what they're doing. No question about that but you know the the thing that AARP in particular. That's a really interesting and not a lot of people understand. is they make most of their money. Selling health insurance products on selling during the products of one company United Health that they have an exclusive deal with and every time they sell the United Health Product with the AARP brand on it they take five percent off the top They call it a royalty because if they called it a commission they'd have to register as insurance broker with all the states and be regulated. And everything else so they called a royalty. They make six hundred million dollars a year doing that and The health insurance industry and United Health in particular has discovered that they can use. Aarp their their business partners partner that they're making six hundred million dollars a year. Four is sort of the public facing arm of their political advocacy efforts. And so you know as they ramp up their efforts to push the Nancy Pelosi prescription drug price control bill they're putting the AARP Forward kind of the public facing brand on that. And there's going to be a healthcare bill this year because when they did the year and spending bill last year Nancy Pelosi very shrewdly said expiration date for a lot of the healthcare programs grams. A lot of the Medicaid programs other healthcare programs of May twenty second while everything else was extended for the full year. And so there's going to be a must pass healthcare bill Before that may twenty second deadline and she's betting that she can get some version of her prescription drug price control plans and maybe some of the other democratic healthcare care priorities into that and the president. Who won't dare oppose something? That is framed as lowering. Drug prices She thinks what actually signed it and so she's he's trying to get maximum leverage here and That that's kind of what's going on with this stuff and you know I i. Don't I disagree with her whole concept of price controls. Control that the way to lower prices because You know developing new drugs is extremely expensive. Private sector spends about one hundred eighty billion dollars per year on are Orin D. It costs on average now over two billion dollars to bring a new drug to market I would like to see policies to make it less expensive to develop new drugs and bring them to market but rather than do that. The Pelosi approach the bill. The House passed and no one noticed when they passed this error because they did the same week that they voted impeachment out of the House and they passed the drug price control bill with literally nobody paying attention but her bill has they call it a negotiation. You tell me if this counts is in Koshien. I love the use of that word. A here's other negotiation works in the Pelosi Bill. The government sits down with the drug manufacturer and they say this is what we think your price should be. And you know you don't have to take our price you can take it or or leave it but it but if you don't take our price you're going to be taxed ninety five percent of your total sales of that product for the last year. Not even your profits your total sales of that profit of that product for the for the last year ninety five percent so in other words a way more than one hundred percent income tax on that product. If you don't take the government price which essentially means means the government will set. The price is now in the short term That's probably a huge positive politically because the price of drugs. We go down dramatically if government bureaucrats and politicians nations are setting them at whatever they think the pressure be But YOU'RE NOT GONNA get new cures as a consequence ladder and the council of Economic Advisers. Looked at this they found. We'd get one hundred fewer cures the congressional. The budget office found that private sector or indeed would drop from one hundred eighty billion dollars a year to eighty billion dollars a year so it would drop by one hundred billion dollars more than having given lose estimates always wrong. It probably drop even more than that. Oh Yeah I mean who knows the thing is if you destroy the incentive for private sector our day You'RE GONNA have to replace it with something. The credits government could do it all. We'll just have you know we'll we'll you increase the NIH budget by a factor of Tan. I mean you could come out come up with you know two trillion dollars or whatever it would be to replace. The private sector are indeed destroy with with government research It's unlikely would be as effective and efficient as the private factor with competition and capital markets. And everything in that regard so my wife's got a genetic form of lung cancer and she depends on a pill. She takes every day in our or out of pocket cost. If we didn't have insurance would be twenty thousand dollars a month for this bill because there are very few people on planet earth who need this pill and yet They developed it. They research it. They're researching because her cancer mutates few years They're developing the next round of drugs for the next mutation and there's one eight no way the government would do this because the people with more common cancers I suspect would be lobbying the government for attention if the government were to be involved in. And there's no way that the private sector Would it developed this medicine at the government will. You can't charge that much per month for the spill. Yeah I think that's right. And you know the the the president has identified identified a real problem now and you know if you saw the clip they use from last year state of the Union in the Aarp Eh. You know the problem is that the other rich countries basically get a free ride from us. Yeah we're paying for the medical. RND and you're up in Japan and Canada. They're they're not because they do have government price controls and I think their philosophy is. Hey if Americans are paying for all the are Orin d great. We don't have to get a free ride at our expense and it's a very vexing problem because if we say hey we'll just copy them and do what they do You know they won't be getting a free ride for US anymore but we won't be getting the medical innovation either and so you really what you really want. A solution in the trade context where we negotiate and use our leverage and other trade areas to get these countries to loosen their price controls and pay more and cover some that are indeed costs so that we can pay a little bit less of it and the remarkable thing. Is You know you when when I say that. And I've said that kind of since the beginning of the trump presidency. That was the best. Approach the pushback. You always get is. Hey No country's ever GONNA GONNA agree to pay more for drugs so that's hopeless but the crazy thing is. We actually did convince Canada and Mexico to pay more for drugs biotech drugs in particular in the US MCA CA. We got them to agree to ten years of data exclusivity for biotech drugs which means they longer period of time in which there's the monopoly for the innovator and they can charge high prices And Nancy Pelosi demanded that taken out and so we finally got a concession from other countries to pay more for prescription drugs and Nancy Pelosi in her hatred. He trade of the drug companies doesn't even want them to make more money from other countries. She demanded that be taken out and it was taken out in the final. US MCA and so it is possible. Get concessions from other countries. If you really take a hard ball approach this in the bill that I really like and I would love to see the president support tonight. I don't know if he will or not I. I really like Mark Meadows bill on this which creates a new special envoy inside the US Trade Representative's office to focus specifically on the issue of breaking breaking foreign prescription drug price controls also and gives the president the power to impose countervailing duties on countries. That don't do it. And you know as a free-trader I don't like the fact that president trump would almost certainly use that power if he had it and You know we would have the the near term downside of you know. Whatever terrorists are countervailing duties? He imposes but It would give the leverage. I think to actually get deals to get other countries to pay more and you know we should wanna pay less without undermining that incentive for our Indian for that to happen. We've gotTA get other rich countries to to pay more. Well Yeah and I think you've you're offering a good solution there if the president and the administration will be able to push it in and also try to overcome some of the democratic obstacles there As far as that goes with the democratic obstacles it seems like they are lined up solidly behind a government. Price controls for healthcare in the real divide is on the Republican side right now in in what is getting Republicans unified behind something to push back on. Well I think you have to give the house. Republicans a lot of credit because they the when the Democrats did this week when nobody was paying attention and didn't notice they actually had a pretty good Republican alternative that Sort of package a lot of the ideas from Republicans for lower drug prices but without undermining the incentive for R. and D. and it did include that meadows bill has a lot of other measures then there including calling for rebate reform although is sort of a soft version of that but I think that's very important and You know the the challenges You know they've got to get those messages Out and they've got to get the president to buy into them. Frankly I think that president trump is so committed to lowering drug prices and some visible way before the election. That if Nancy Anti Pelosi's bill did pass the Senate he would sign it. Notwithstanding his own adviser saying it would reduce the number of new cures develop dramatically. I think he really wants an accomplishment on this issue and that makes this a very volatile dangerous kind of area So I think there's a good chance we are going to see legislation on this and Republicans have got to deliver something. There is a committee committee product and the Senate that that That Chuck Grassley wrote that. I think could be Kinda the kernel of consensus Alternative By I you know if they try to do nothing. They're probably going to push the president towards Pelosi's kind of maximalist government intrusive position and by the way are the price controls bill. The Democrats pushed in the House has a lot of support from the health insurance industry which is why United Health supports it and they are supports and so forth. I think they're being shockingly shockingly shortsighted in this idea that government nationalizing prescription drug prices will somehow result in them. Making more money like they will be allowed to You you know benefit as insurance companies from spending less on prescription drugs rather than just being the next domino to fall out of the Democrats will go after next June. And I'm talking to Phil Kerpen the President of American Commitment Philly with all the lay of the land other right. Now if you're a conservative out there you're listening to the to have this conversation. What would you recommend that people Do Well I think we've got to We've got a demand and be very clear on this To to to our senators in particular alert that we want a solution that will meaningfully lower drug prices without undermining the incentive for rnd and we support the the mark meadows measure to strengthen strengthen now her Negotiations on the trade front. We WanNA see rebate reform so that so much. Money isn't diverted to middlemen because the market is very poorly structured right now the the the pharmacy benefit managers actually have an exemption from the federal anti kickback. Statute that lets them. Ask Manufacturers for high prices and high rebates so they can divert the rebates and not pass them onto customers they should be incentivized to be negotiating for lower prices. They're the buy side of the drug markets. I think we've got to fix that issue and I would would really like to see them. Do something to tackle the high cost. And the lengthy timelines associated with FDA approval and to streamline that process. I would like to see Drugs available eligible to be To be marketed. After they're approved for safety prior to their efficacy testing being completed. Especially when you consider that doctor so frequently frequently find off label uses anyway the idea that we wait years and years and years for drugs to be proven effective for a given condition before they can be sold and then they end up being used for other conditions to me. We ought to allow drugs on the market. As soon as they're proven safe and I think that would significantly increase access and lower costs as well so I think the message you just gotTa be. We've gotTA tell our centers. Look if you don't want Nancy Pelosi's crazy price control bill and you should not want it Then you guys have really got to deliver something the thing that will lower prices for prescription drugs and in the near term without undermining the incentive for our Indian developing new cures You you've gotTA gotTa Get your act together and come together on something all right Phil Listen. Thanks very much for stopping by that is very useful and and I would tell my listeners. Text the word Army two three three seven seven seventeen get on the activist list and has this move forward while keep an eye on it and keep in touch with. We'll make sure if nothing else we can. Maybe stop the Democrats and find something better. I I sure appreciate you stopping by my pleasure you to fill Kurban President of American commitment You can Google American commitment yet just website but again text the word army two three three seven seven seven As this legislation comes down the pike. We'll be able to get you plugged into Congress to be able to to kill the Democrats and you know he's right on this Just just just let me reiterate for from my own personal perspective here. If the government is setting prices of medicine it sounds good. Because you're thinking oh I'll be able to get my current medicine cheaper but what about the future medicine. The medicine you're on right now didn't exist at a point in time and it was because of our free market incentives for pharmaceutical article companies to innovate in research at the medicine did exist. If there's no longer a prophet innovation you know exactly how the free market works. They're not GonNa pour their heart and soul into the RND when they're not going to be able to make their money back. And so Nancy Pelosi's bill sounds good on surface but has far reaching long-term bad consequences for us and and he's right. The president wants a deal on this. He's going to go with her. So there's no alternative so stay engaged. Text the word Army to three three seven seven seven man. I'm glad I just Google this one. If you're just tuning welcome it is Uric Erickson here the full number. We'll take your phone calls Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four two five nine seven three seven four to five. There's all on social media a warning being circulated from the World Health Organization Saint to avoid having unprotected intimate relations with a Wild or farm animals to fit the curl virus note nope whether the actual wording says is to avoid contact worked with wild animals. Be Sure to wash up if you do Someone doctored it descended out. y'All I gotTa tell. Ah I think that the corona virus is going to be a bigger issue for US over the next couple of weeks then the then the state of the Union that impeachment during the Iowa debacle. I do kind to enlarge part. The media is ignored it. Because they don't want to set off panic and I do think that there is some legitimacy there and trying to avoid panic and there are so many other things out there that are bigger and more oppressing but at the same time we've now got twenty thousand four hundred thirty eight cases in China four hundred twenty seven deaths in the United States. We're up to eleven eleven cases of Corolla virus it is confirmed now That it can pass from person to person and they're all sorts of conflicting stories on how you handle it. Can you wear face masks. Face Masks of course are sold out. What sort of face mask is the best face masks on and on it goes Is China. There was undercover video in one of the Chinese hospitals where they were just piling up body bags and the person who sneaked that video out has been arrested and detained the by Chinese authorities. Who are finally allowing of the Americans to come in and help them which is pretty telling here? We constantly instantly hear from people. In the media. There is an infatuation on the American left with China Particularly among elite in this country. And not just the left. There is a fascination with China's command and control environment and economy and how the Chinese government can snap. It's finger and make things so and yet here we see that in those situations I all of the Louima nine over the Chinese healthcare system originally has shown that that it doesn't live up to hype. The Chinese healthcare system is not good You had a bunch of people dazzled yesterday that China was able to build a hospital in ten days Through slave labor and military military they were able to put up a hospital. That's GONNA fall apart in a couple of weeks but for right now can help people. It's not a good look for the communist Chinese and yet there are a lot of people in this country who are infatuated with the Bernie Sanders of the world and what they can or cannot do when we come back. I WanNa actually talk about this failure of institutions because actually does matter and is going to be increasingly. A topic for our age is well. We continue to discuss Iowa. We still don't know who won the Iowa caucus welcome it is Eric Erickson here. The Eric Erickson show across the state of Georgia. Things not going well for the Democrats today. Let let me play some some of of Ron Brownstein on CNN from Earlier this morning by the way Booted you now walking back. His victory claims we'll get there but it's embarrassing and really unacceptable for the Democratic Party. I mean I think caucuses were teetering on the edge down. I think three of them left. I mean the idea that something. This important the first contest of the Democratic race which in the last four you know the last four Democrat contested primaries the I will win a winner has gone on to win the idea that something that important and should be conducted in such a haphazard way there should be a sharpie rule like any election and we people writing with sharpies at one in the morning is not an election being run with sufficient in precision To consequences that we have you know. Trump is metal you know is kind of meddling In royal waters I mean there is a portion in particular the sanders campaign a UH knock campaign coalition that campaign. Maybe that is inclined to believe exactly what he is saying and he is and the president is simply trying to recreate the situation of two thousand sixteen when when a reasonable percentage of sanders primary voters ultimately voted third party in the general election the NBA Unavoidable for Democrats. But they certainly compounded the risk of it last night they certainly only. Did you gotta remember that. Donald Trump won by seventy thousand votes spread over Michigan Wisconsin in Pennsylvania and there were more than seventy thousand voters I from From e Bernie Sanders camp. Who voted third party or voted for trump in two thousand sixteen is a protest against Hillary Clinton now l.? You've got a hairy Indian from CNN and looking at the polling and realizing there's a problem for the Democrats moving forward word in terms of news for the Democratic Party writ large. The turnout was not particularly high. No it wasn't particularly high so if you go back to four years ago what. Reo Democratic Party has said is about the same exact turnout that is not particularly good. It's not as strong as it was in two thousand eight. They're supposed to be all this excitement around the democratic mccourty wanting to be donald trump. And this isn't the only data point that shows that if we look at the special elections that we've seen so far in two thousand nineteen and twenty twenty and compared to the two thousand sixteen baseline what we see is that Democrats are overperforming at a lower level than they did between two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen so when you take those two data data points and put them together. Maybe there's a little bit of enthusiasm problem for Democrats going. Yeah what are you saying is that there was this massive turnout Spike for Democrats in two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen and that turnouts by his collapse now They're they're burning out of the energy. They're burning out of the rage. Well L. is fueling. Some of the rage today is pete. Buddha judge who has gone on television declared himself the victor her and it's not going over well for Buddha judge now a nationally. I WanNa play you some of his interview from CBS. This morning where he talked about this and he's now walking it back having said this first thing this morning and let me set the stage for a year just so you understand e Pete. Buddha judge looked to be doing better than anyone expected last night in Iowa. It looked like Buddha judge would have come in third behind sanders war and that would have made Pete Butit's the establishment establishment candidate. He would've trump's global shar he would have trout St- He would've trounced Joe Biden and booth came in third. It appears he will have come in third erred so he rushed to the cameras and declared victory and he went on. CBS News this morning also to declare victory. And it's not going over. Well now I listen to what he said this morning. We heard you say we're going on to New Hampshire victorious. But how can you do that when the official results are not in. Shouldn't you wait. Well we we have the results from our organization and if you look at what we were able to do what happened last night. The fact that this campaign was able to gather support in urban urban suburban and rural areas alike and counties that Hillary Clinton more counties that Donald Trump won. We are thrilled and absolutely consider that a victory absolutely absolutely consider that a victory will that that wasn't the only thing he said he also had a little bit more of this discussion I played earlier on. CBS The sanders campaign. Also saying they're essentially victorious. There are people online saying that your claim if using the word is I think the Hashtag Mayor Cheat In retrospect you think it was a little premature to take the stage and use the V-WORD heard no. I mean looking at what happened last night looking at all of the data that we've got. It was an extraordinary night. And we are absolutely victorious. Coming into New Hampshire I I mean this is a campaign that when we launched a year ago. People said you're not a senator. You're not a national name. What what business does somebody from? Mid Sized City in the middle of the country have running for president. Said we shouldn't even be here and now here. We are in the position that we are in a coming into New Hampshire for what we think will be another historic tonight a week from today. What do you say now to people who when the results come in are now questioning the integrity of the results again? The the good news is there is a paper process that can verify this and of course The way the caucus process works folks are in the room they see how now everybody aligned so it's verifiable but still very very frustrating and you understand that point here. This isn't a matter of hacking hacking. I in fact let me read you. if remark eager men who he's a tech guy writing about this having spent twenty years working intersection of tech can politics Bad APP design plus no verification tools plus inadequate governance structures prevented a quick resolution. The caucus reporting APP was freely available. Doesn't seem not to require a log in it merely required a pin printed on the final. Tally sheets that were unique to each of the seven hundred caucus locations. That's the core problem. There was a long delay getting precinct leaders to connect download the APP and figured out that led to some people tweeting out picks of the tally sheets that included the pin number and then campaigns like compete. Buddha just started doing this proof of their success pranksters or bad actors. Were then able to download the APP upload data for any precinct WHO's sheet they saw overriding previous data. Someone probably claimed that develop. Patrick got one hundred delegates in a large inside just for fun. The discrepancy instantly became obvious to Iowa State Democratic Party officials. The APP almost certainly lacked adequate logging or access control so all the officials saw were brazenly fake data and they had no idea why they also didn't have a plan plan B. so they started getting calls from precincts but once again. They liked verification tools. In anyone with a pin could claim they have the data. Maybe someone tried to call it a report alter numbers or maybe AP state officials were just nervous. Nobody was empowered to make a decision so they punted and are probably physically collecting verify today. Campaigns probably have a rough idea of the the numbers. But who knows that I suspect is The is more accurate to what's happening than anything and it was a complete meltdown. And there's a larger issue here that we should explore and and that is that the the failure of institutions. I Amy Walter who is a A with coke reports. She's with ABC for Awhile. She's a great political reporter is is noting that the bizarreness of all of this comes because the Democratic Party after two thousand sixteen decided they needed to placate Bernie Sanders in his supporters. Orders Though Bernie Sanders is not even a Democrat. They have allowed to compete on the ballot as a Democrat a man who is not a democrat. They have changed the rules calls to accommodate him. They built software to accommodate him and he has hijacked the Democratic Party for campaign. That has nothing to do with the Democrats. It is a complete failure of the institution to to serve the Democratic Party in much the same way. Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen. If if we're honest he was able to hijack the Republican Party if you serve it and I realized there are a lot of people who've engaged in revisionist history here but if you actually were to survey the Republican Republican Party in Twenty Sixteen in Iowa New Hampshire and South Carolina what you would have seen in the original trend lines of the Republican Party in those those three states. Is that the people who are coming in initially to support Donald Trump were people who were new to the process in not Republicans. The Republican Lookin' Party if you will was able to be taken over by trump supporters who were not necessarily Republicans and in fact as we see in in two thousand eighteen for example in Georgia where you did not have have a massive wave of Republicans turning out Brian Kemp or any other candidate These voters turn out for Donald Trump. Just like they turned out for Barack Obama in two thousand twelve but they didn't turn out for Democrats in two thousand ten two thousand fourteen they turn out for Donald Trump between sixty they'll turn out for Donald Trump and twenty twenty but they've got to ideological allegiance per se to the party. Now that's good to some degree except we're making culture personality at political parties. Now I mean. What is the Republican Party? Stand for other than a party that is designed to prop up Donald Trump. I mean does anyone have any idea. What the Republican Party stands for you? Say the Republican Party stands for smaller government except the Republican Party is voting for trillion dollar deficits. which is only going to grow the government? The Republican Party is for cutting taxes except again Trillion dollar deficits eventually taxes are going to have to increase. Usually the party is is for deregulation. And and maybe so but that is that about the only thing it says for his deregulation corporate interests will what about everyone else. The president is much more populist then he is a for corporate interests or or a conservative. You oftentimes here. The president's supporters say what does conservatism conserved. We have a failure. Oh you're of institutions. There's a failure of Congress. There's a failure of the political parties. There is to some degree. A failure of the presidency. Lisa Murkowski has announced. She is not going to vote for impeachment. Even though she's upset with the president and enlarge part she's not gonNa vote for impeachment Because of of Elizabeth Warren's question to undermine John Roberts Lisa Murkowski opposed witnesses. She wanted to call witnesses and she voted against them. She says in large part because she could see Elizabeth Warren and others trying to undermine the judiciary by making it all about John Robertson forcing John Roberts to break a tie when he had no business breaking it. I in fact John Roberts came out in the last week and said he had no business breaking ties. It will not break a tie. So Lisa Murkowski to protect the judiciary is actually fallen all in on her Sword Blaming Elizabeth Warren. which by the way that that reminds me? Elizabeth Warren not strategic genius. She screwed up with her with her DNA test and she overplayed her hand with John Roberts she could have very well gotten what she wanted which was a tie. Vote on witnesses except she asked that question of John. Roberts put John Roberts on the spot he clearly did not like to be put on the spot that basically what the Republicans were doing wasn't calling into question the chief justice is fairness integrity and even Adam Shivers. Like absolutely really not. This is ridiculous question but it allowed Murkowski the excuse to say I'm not going to go down this road. Because she's tried to preserve it institution Asian our institutions continued to fail us in part. They're failing because they are grasping for technocratic solutions to replace incompetence with competence. They're not actually Jelena's competent solutions. People are losing their faith in institutions. But I gotTa tell you what our are institutions what our institutions institutions are. The people assembled ultimately lead the institutions are us and so the to the extent that institutions are failing us. It's we are failing ourselves now. I realize you're supposed to these things so I trust the people people are stupid. I mean have you been to a Walmart on a Friday afternoon. People are stupid and no offense by the way to people who go to Walmart Art. I go to Walmart as well. But good Lord people are stupid and stupid people do stupid things and increasingly. We've got a tune society staring at our phones. No one's paying attention. And we're outsourcing our problems to institutions to save us and who are those institutions their us their people just like has described distracted overburdened share over sharing on social media staring at their phones. They're incompetent because we're incompetent so to the extent that our institutions are failing. We are failing ourselves and we now have less and less trusted our institutions. That is one reason I think the killer argument of the twenty first century. It's gotta it'd be federalism. I mentioned it earlier in the show in the last hour. Jeremiah twenty seven the welfare of the city in which you're next on their you'll find your welfare. All of us are outsourcing our problems to Washington. DC We have avoided local solutions for local problems. We think Washington is going to solve everything for a society. Eighty three hundred fifty million people. It is impossible for Washington. Dissolve everything and what we have with our great cultural fights of the day or the left in the right fighting over ideas of cultural homogeneity. When in fact we are a heterogeneous station of mixed people? Diverse people diverse groups diverse tribes diverse clans diverse societies diverse cultures across a massive nation and the idea that Washington DC can cater government to fix. The problems of the three hundred fifty million. People is preposterous. That by the way is why it's ridiculous that they were GonNa have some sort of British health care system in the United States the British health care system of a of a mostly white nation nation. Not even half. The size of ours cannot match us in our diversity and our ethnic backgrounds in racial backgrounds. And everything else. I mean for God's Sakes Texas has about as many people as Canada's do think that we can prescribe solutions in Washington but we can't because has the institutions are failing and the reason the institutions are failing is the people themselves are failing and we got this spectacle last night in Iowa because the people who were supposed to actually fix the problem and improve the situation themselves failed. No one wants to exercise leadership anymore and frankly we've made it more and more impossible. Oh to exercise leadership and part of the problem there honestly if we're really transparency everybody's got to be so open now. There are some things you just shouldn't see. Parties parties. Do not need to have everything they do out in the open and exposed where people can nitpick. It's just it's it's kind of sad to see but it's also refunding to see when you see the collapse of the Democratic Party and I will last night but what happened with the Iowa. Democratic Party last night is not a problem of just the Democrats. It's a problem of institutions across the Board Award. ooh I hadn't thought about this. Liam Donovan on twitter. Jose an outside consultant has worked within Republican politics. He just tweeted this out a piece I would read how the caucus debacle and the broader decline of Iowa. Swing state status jeopardized the primacy of king corn. You know that that's one of the big issues here Ted Cruz in two thousand sixty one the Iowa caucus and he did so despite campaigning against ethanol and had the entire state political establishment lined up against him. In fact some of them coming up for Donald Trump because of ethanol ethanol all is a garbage fuel That is a complete sop farmers. Ethanol wears out your engines It's just it's terrible Wherever you can find ethanol all free gas you should use it and yet it is at this point a sop to farmers Donald Trump now out on the campaign trail wanting to increase the use of ethanol is solely only to get Iowa's vote Iowa? I wouldn't Nebraska huge corn country will one of the reasons that ethanol has become so prominent in intrinsic in addition to Chuck Grassley being an institution of the Senate. I was senior. Senator is because of the Iowa caucuses you go to Iowa. Everyone pledges to make ethanol great again. That's why they came out. After Ted Cruz so aggressively in two thousand sixteen is because he was pledging to end ethanol and it. It's as has the Iowa caucuses fade. There is less need to to do it and you know here. Here's the thing. If I'm really honest about it I I suspect that in four years. We'll be doing this all over again. I suspect that in four years will be complaining about Iowa's first in the nation status again you know I Iowa's it's actually one of my favorite places in the country. There is a place in Iowa. Oh what is it called vintage. I think it is It eighties you'd go in this place. And they have the greatest. Friday Iowa is known for its fried pork sandwiches. Essentially the they take a pork tenderloin pounded paper-thin breaded credited. FRY IT and you get a tiny little bun is like an eight by eleven sheet of paper sticking out it's fantastic it's crispy pork sandwich and there's this place place in Iowa you go in. It's in downtown Des Moines a belief. The name of vintage. I go there every time I with the Caucasus and you can get you can get bitten every beer in the place to be a beer that was produced in the nineteen seventies. There mostly is like Miller High Life Miller lite and paps and the like and then you get these fried pork sandwiches and Tater tots and it's fantastic. It is fan. I eat there once or twice every time I go to go to moines for the for the caucus and fantastic th the pig farm and the corn formative. It's fantastic but I was deeply unrepresentative of anything in America. At this point it is it is an all white bastion That is slowly demographically. Changing there are greater diversity in states. Now this is part of Joe. Biden's problem is is. He's moving from Iowa to New Hampshire. I was the First Caucus New Hampshire the first primary and it like Iowa is a bunch of lily white liberals you gotTa then pivot to Nevada which is a caucus and South Carolina both of which have shown promise for Joe Biden as more minority voters. Begin to participate. You've got to win minority voters to win the Democratic Party and by doing potentially has an inroad there but can he sustain stain. It Biden the headline today. Should be that Joe Biden is wiped out and the collapse of that APP and the problem with the and the problem with the headlines over how the Iowa Caucus turnout will delay any any coverage of Joe Biden's collapse and that works disadvantage. That's one reason this Andrews people are so mad. They're mad at Buddha judge people and they're mad at the Biden people because they really expected to be able to take out Joe Biden. Remember the significance of Iowa. Never really is who wins. It's always who loses in Biden. Is the huge loser out of Iowa Biden expected. Frankly lose even though there were saying he was GonNa win the privately. The Biden team knew they hadn't put in the work in Iowa and they've now gotten a complete pass on Iowa and the collapse of Iowa Because well everything's overshadowed by complete cluster in handling the the the APP in the download. The story is going to go on for days. Even as the president takes the State of the Union tonight boy I I would like to move on to other stuff but the gifts. Just keep on giving this. This is just happened on. MSNBC president of frozen. I I WANNA ask you. Is there anything about. This is something that came out of our entrance polling And this caught my attention last night. This is this is I will caucus entrance pulling. Here's the full screen thirty-five percent there. It is right there. Thirty five percent of voters caucusing this year or first time first time caucus goers forty four more percents. That was the number in two thousand sixteen. Democrats have long leaned on President trump being a motivator for voters. Those numbers don't bear that out should should should that concern Democrats. Yes but I think for a different reason than a lot of folks probably will think and maybe I'll be the only person to say this today. The the Iowa Caucus is essentially the perfect example of systemic racism. Ninety one percent of the voters in Iowa are white. The reason why you see a drop in turnout. I'm just speculating here. It could be perhaps that white children are not in cages. Louis talking when you're talking about the tangible pain the black and Brown people are feeling. They feel a sense of urgency because their kids are being put in cages. And so if you have ninety one wait wait. Wait wait who who's being put in King so you legal immigrants kid. Vote surly electorate that sense of urgency. May Not be reflected in the turnout. Numbers I'm not saying. That's the reason for this. It could be a factor serious which she says it. Why so I'm serious? Oh my okay. Let's let's Let's back this train up a little bit. Everyone knows sonos going into Iowa. It is a seriously white state you know why so much emphasis put on. I will particularly among the Democrats. Say it is because those are the Jimmy Carter Ted Kennedy Caucus Were Carter was stunned by Ted Kennedy showing and he gave Kennedy some level of rebound out showing disatisfaction and ever since then both parties have put a lot of weight on Iowa particularly the Democratic Party. I Wa- What is yes very white and so very unrepresentative of the Democratic Party but I was also a caucus state and there were only three caucus states left There's Iowa New Nevada what is the other caucus state. Oh hang on. This is going to kill me. What are the states with caucuses There are three of them. There is Iowa. There is New Hampshire and there is well. No not New Hampshire Nevada. This is so unprofessional of me. I Apologize I'M GONNA be yelled at by MOM by my producer here for doing this but nonetheless. Yeah Iowa uh-huh and Nevada the two big ones. Oh Alaska has one North Dakota Kansas Wyoming Hawaii and main The only ones that are seriously considered however are the Iowa caucus than in the Nevada caucus because the other caucuses tend to take place at times when there are Super Tuesday style elections and so they get overshadowed the reason the Iowa caucus is Significant is because it is a show of organizational organizational strength. You have to get people to show up. They have to commit to you. They have to be able to make a pitch on your behalf. For example in one Iowa caucus last night the designated Bernie Sanders Person. Their car broke down and they couldn't make it. And so one of the Bernie Sanders supporters stood up and he made a persuasive persuasive pitch for Bernie Sanders arguably more persuasive than marines centers. It was essentially that that his brother has a disability Bernie Sanders is deleted. It seriously fighting for Medicare for all he he longed for that day he would help us brother etcetera etcetera etcetera and it was persuasive to people there but it was a show of organizational strength. Because you have to put in a ground game to win the election in November you have a ground game so if you can put in a ground game in Iowa for the caucus. It's a good show of organizational strength for you. That's why hey there's so much emphasis on Iowa it is I and it is a show of organizational strength and if you can put both together well like Bernie Sanders did last night. You'd have a very good night. It has nothing to do with racism. Part of the problem for the Democrats is there is a dissatisfaction of the candidates. There's nothing about this institutional staticial or systemic racism have to lower turnout. The fact of the matter is it is low turnout in Iowa among Democrats because a lot of Democrats aren't actually engaged with or excited by the candidates forty four percent of voters who turned out in two thousand sixteen in the Iowa caucuses were first time voters. I only thirty five percent were last night because there is an enthusiasm gap between the parties right now. Don't the bank on that. For November Democrats will be sufficiently fired up in November but it is a measure of Republican excitement for the president. Right now that the Democrats are in disarray array and they wanted to find party unity. They thought they could rally around. Joe Biden Biden isn't polluted off and I've long maintained this by traced lose him by God. It looks like he's going to lose it. Here's David Axelrod. Well I think obviously I being such debacles. A huge serve. I think the biggest story is actually that the Joe Biden is coming coming in fourth or fifth place right and that the entire argument about electability means that you have to win. Now that is Alexandra. Rojo's that is not David our fraud. He's about speak and he's not going and have a strong performance and a lot of people try to minimize. I think the result of that but the reality is that the Democratic Front runner the former vice president of the United States is not. Yeah we don't know L. but we have some information that he did very very poorly anecdotally last night as we were watching the results. Also come in I think caucus after caucus night there was a dampening enthusiasm and I think the reality of what last night showed is that there are two progressives that have come out in the top up two or three and that. It's incredibly a huge for this moment. That the United States wants bake idea the frustration. In fact we're going to take a quick break here. Those poor people at sea. They have been on air since it is daytime in Iowa. I have been there. I have done that. It is exhausting is also a lot of fun. There's one caveat though and I didn't mean to spend the entire time on this topic today but it is such a big story. Today was so much other stuff at play as well. We'll get into some of the Georgia news here in just just a minute. One of the things that we need to appreciate it. Peter Hamby from all stems it used to be with. CNN has pointed Out Is that all of the major media locations in Iowa were in urban and suburban areas. So Take Drake University versity. You're absolutely right. That Pete Buddha judge and Bernie Sanders are GONNA do excellent. An Academic Setting Sanders in Warren. Oren did very well and drake. Pete booted came in third at Drake University. Campus of course white academic liberals love the progressives and love having a game lineal on the ballot the just the fact but what about the voters in rural Iowa there are seventeen hundred precincts in the media gave attention to maybe twenty of them now. There are disproportionately huge so they will have a disproportionate impact but there are a lot of rural Iowa counties that were completely ignored by the media and what about them and it looks like Joe Biden had a bad night in Iowa last night and he probably did have a bad night right in Iowa last night in the the the level and depth of spinning from the Biden campaign suggests that they know it was a bad night and they need to move on very quickly. But we don't fully know what happened. We we really don't have the full depth of what happened last night to Joe Biden. And we're not going to know for some time again. The president's giving the state of the union tonight and then he's going to be acquitted of impeachment tomorrow and then what happens the next day. The next day is the national prayer breakfast. And all all of these things are going to overshadow the headlines. Coming out of Iowa and that that gives Joe Biden the lifeline. His team was pushing very hard from New Hampshire. They already moved to New Hampshire last night before it was even over. He spoke to the crowd got on. A plane. Flew to New Hampshire and now his team is pushing very hard today joining me now. Deputy campaign manager and communications director for the Biden campaign cake betting field. Good Morning Kate. Why Jor campaign sent? This letter isn't exactly what president trump wants to paint picture that the Democratic Party is a mess and can't get its act together no of course not we look. We have some real concerns about some of the issues with the process last night. I think we have all seen that. The APP failed precinct. Captains weren't able to report out there. totals You know we. Obviously the phone system also failed. You heard Previous reporting about people not being able to call in their results getting frustrated hanging up And then this issue of the paper trail which you guys were just talking about you know we. You don't have indication from the Iowa Democratic Party that they have the paper trail on on each of these votes and that's supposed to be the backup the reassurance behind behind the APP so those things he's taken together. We think. Raise some real concerns about the integrity of the process and obviously we believe that Iowa voters and voters across the country should feel Confident that the process Cessnas Fair. And so we're asking the Iowa Democratic Party to address some of those issues before they released any official data given what just went down in your mind. Is this the last time the Iowa caucus should kick off the election season. Well I look I mean. I think anybody who watched the process last night would come away with it with concerns concerns. Think man they are out to kill the Iowa Caucus. Hey here's what what actually they want is. Hawaii has a caucus so in January January when the voting stars. Why don't we do the Hawaiian Caucus I would go to? I've never know why I'd go to the Hawaiian Caucus. I got a friend of mine. Who owns a big chunk of Land Down Hawaii? I'll go crash at his place and watch the caucuses For from his place. And we'LL WATCH THE WE'LL WATCH THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. Fight it out in a Hawaiian caucus the first first in the nation. And then it's GonNa take them all day the next day to book it back to New Hampshire for the New Hampshire primary. But at least you'd have a more demographically diverse caucus for the first caucus that Iowa. The reality is that inertia is going to keep the Iowa Caucus I that they will beg forgiveness and they will try to get it right next time but remember they screwed it up last last time to now all of this. There's a bigger more transcendent issue. And there is one word word to describe the bigger more transcendent issue. That word is Bloomberg because Mike Bloomberg is not on the ballot in Iowa. And he's not on the ballot in New Hampshire and he's not on the ballot in Nevada and he's not on the ballot in South Carolina. He is waiting for Super Tuesday to makes his move and he thinks the Democratic field will be so divided that by Super Tuesday. He'll be able to to have clear standing. He is spending more money than all all the other candidates combined on advertising on social media and on TV and radio. He's playing ads on conservative. Talk radio stations on Fox News News on CNN on ABC NBC CBS. His ads are everywhere. They are ubiquitous. Mike kids know who might Bloomberg is because they encounter his ads on Youtube uh-huh constantly. He's not micro targeting his ads. He is in broad strokes advertising and in broad strokes trying to make a name for himself and he's getting attention in. He's getting notoriety and that's what he wants right now. Is that level of notoriety for his campaign and he is about poor massive resources into California put this in perspective respective Iowa has forty one caucus delegates California will have over four hundred caucus delegates. The the campaign says it will have eight hundred full and part-time staff and twenty field offices in California by March third. That's Super Tuesday. No other campaigns. It's GonNa have the money to match that California's got four hundred. Fifteen delegates to Iowa's forty-one his staff who a lot of them work for Barack Obama's we have staff and thirty five states dates. There probably isn't a state in the country. That's not going to get some of our advertising. Besides the first four so a lot of people thought he was nuts in doing this. I did too you. But he's spending so much money. Look poor SOM- sire WHO's actually a bigger billionaire than than a Bloomberg but isn't willing to do what it takes to win Bloomberg is doing what it takes to win. He's pouring money into a national advertising campaign pouring his money in and he skyrocketing to the policies ahead of Buddha Buddha Jr national polling in boot. `Age is going to have to come up. With a way to combat that Bernie Sanders is the only one who has a message base. Who Can Bernie? Sanders is vase their the ideological warriors. And they're going to be opposed to a billionaire buying the Democratic nomination and that will help Bernie Sanders. That's gotTa hurt. Joe Biden aiden. This is Biden's raced it really is Biden's race to lose. He's the Brock Obama's vice president the United States he has a approval rating in in the black black community is fifty two percent of black voters. Want Joe Biden. Biden's running out of money. He's running out of runway. He's running out of time in Bloomberg has an unlimited pool of money. He's not even taking campaign contributions he's got billions of his own money to spend and he intends by God to spend that money. And that's GonNa shake up the race. It's why Iowa doesn't really even matter this year because Bloomberg again. He's not in Iowa New Hampshire Nevada VAT or South Carolina. This is the first four states. He's not in any of them and now by the way. The Democrats altered the debate rules so Bloomberg and get on a debate stage where Cory Cory Booker couldn't Kamla Harris couldn't Tulsi Gabbard couldn't Andrew Yang couldn't They've been able to to shape the rules to prevent the diverse candidates for getting on stage to make it an all white panel title and now that these people are dropping like. Oh Yeah. We'll all of them come on including Mike Bloomberg who will be on stage for debate in California and we'll get all sorts of eyeballs watching. It's it's GonNa be impressive to behold and it's also going to be bad for all the other candidates it might actually wind up being really good for Donald Trump. I I WANNA go here right now and it pains me to have to do this sir. Today is World Cancer Day in it comes the day after finding out that rush limbaugh has lung cancer. And and I wanNA tell you guys that a lot of people use the word friend and I actually do mean it. He's been a mentor for me for a very long time nine Before I got into talk radio and was running. Red State. Dot Com rush was a huge encouragement. We got to know each other. When I was at Red State we met for the first time at at CPAC years ago when I was at red state he knew I was going to be there and reached out and said he'd love to meet Met Him met Catherine at the at CPAC has been years ago now and I remember one night in in New York City. I was very frustrated. CNN wanted me to come work for CNN and Fox News. Wanted me to go work for Fox. And I got competing very good offers and was very frustrated and really felt caught in the middle in competing agendas from people and I just. I sent an email randomly. Rush Vinton about the conundrum and he wrote back and said I will. I will give you advice. And we had an email she does. Does it talk on the phone. Very much Province reasons we had an email exchange That went on for a while that night and he convinced me I needed to go to CNN. And I literally wound up going to CNN because of rush limbaugh He said he thought it would do me. Good to get out of my bubble and comfort zone and essentially Go behind enemy lines To to be a conservative on. CNN and he. He trusted that I would not lose my way at CNN. And three years later when Rogers was Lurie Mita Fox rush. was there an insane and go. You had your time behind enemy lines. Go Go enjoy the comfort of Fox now and I did when I fell into talk. Radio Rush was the guy who who guided me and talk radio who gave me great advice. some of which I can say publicly and some of which I can't and I filled in for him for a number of years and he he and his whole staff they are wonderful. Wonderful People I think the world of rush We go weeks without talking and then we'll have burst of email exchanges. We typically are are treating emails throughout apple events. Russian we we we may be have been known to race each other to get an iphone He typically beats me for she staff who can do it. It's it's just me doing it and he makes sure I know that But I just I I am. I hate to here this news. My wife is battling lung cancer right now as well and Having to people in my world going through that terrible disease is something and I would just encourage everybody to pray for rush and I realized that some of the stations. I'm on will not be going to him next. And and some of them will but I'm GonNa make this segment about rush because he actually is a friend and mentor and not as good a friend as I wish he was but a better friend than when he he needed to be and he's always been there for me to answer my questions and let me pick his brain and give me good career advice And advice on other topics as well including advice on golf and I would just pray that the God who raised us from the dust of the earth in stitches together in our mother's wombs would reach out his hands and he'll him and sustain him and his family and his friends and loved ones and his colleagues and those who work with theme and get them all through this time and give him the piece that transcends all understanding and sustain him when he's worried and lift him up in heal him but God's will be done in this and let rush fuel the presence of so many of us who were praying for him he really is just a a a phenomenal warm and caring person and nobody does it better than him and I would not be doing what I'm doing but for him. I really do very much. Oh my career to him he the the advice he's given me over the years it's been priceless and so I'm definitely praying for him and hope you guys will as well and absolutely wish him. The best and I will talk to Y'all tomorrow.

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# 424 - Ron Funches & ME

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I told Ron I don't know if I get credit for this sometimes you ever wondered like does that even matter it doesn't matter you just like I don't want to say something and someone go hey by the way that's not how it went down and I do that a lot but I definitely told Ron at that podcast I was like you need to start a podcast right Yeah, and then since I knew we had mutual friends from Oregon in the past Ron and I did not know each other until your podcasts a little over two years ago and your church since to do podcasts and then. and. So I guess the only person who knew is me right produce it so That's how that came about. Well Yeah. You you're the one who arquette's yeah, and so he does have a podcast it's called getting better get. Getting. Getting better is that I don't think I can say that I don't think I'm allowed to say that I think it's cultural appropriation of getting if you if you do someone else's accent so I'll say getting better but lose the G. I'm kidding I'm fucking around I'm trying to be woke. Getting better with Ron funches. It's what described as podcast. If you can't Halston, you've listened to all of them. Yeah, he he has different comedians on and different people. He looks up to like Stone Cold Steve Austin, and Conan, and stuff like that. It just wants to see what what makes them tick, what what makes them Did to the level of success they got to. And how they maintain their lifestyle whether it be health wise or diet exercise all that sorta stuff one, hundred, fifty pounds at one point so. He really dedicated his life at that moment to get better and he always shares his insights on. How he did it and he wants to pull that from his guests as well. I remember running into after lost that weight I was drunk in an airport in the morning and I just gave him a hug. Those. Like you look fucking fantastic. He does look fantastic. He's busting his ass. He looks great We talk about we talk about a lot of stuff. we talk we talked for over two hours, correct yeah and and we talk about how tiger is just the worst person ever kidding I'm kidding. We. Talk about Tom in the wrestling thing and how it's old school wrestling technique that Kinda worked for Tom is it's interesting conversation. We talked about that. We talk about I'm sure we talk about woke kness at some point or or. We talk about everything. It's just is what podcast should be. I hope you guys enjoy it. We got a couple of mid roll reads, right? Halston. That you'll hear once again, thank you for allowing me to do the reads they pay for the podcast to pay for everything and and and and and in a Timakova these podcast mean a lot to me. So thank you so much. New Bears. One cave is out new bill bird is out go find them where you get podcast. and. That's it. Guys have a great week. Enjoy the podcast stay safe stay healthy. If you're in Wichita Kansas or Kansas City or any of the cities I will see when you're sitting at a drive in movie theater make sure If you. If you if they're allowing tailgating in your city, I don't know what laws are. But if you do allowing getting, you put up a cool tailgate something fun. Put Take Pictures, put it on Instagram and tag me I. WanNa see all of them. I will share all of them on my instagram stories. All right. So Ladies and Gentlemen Dot further do today's podcast. Ron funches. I feel like my setups kind of like. It's okay. But like I've never like it's all me doing kinda. If I had known, we were going to be in quarantine long doing this many zooms I would have stepped up to the next level. Yeah. I'm ain't going to get more as we go along at my ring light now getting a better camera now like. Just my wife fought this the ring light really a little light makes a big difference I have. I've lights from when I was shooting when I got fired from travel channel. I like double down I started creating content. So I bought like legit lights some using those can but whatever but but I ended I should I I just didn't know we were going to be in this law. I think anybody did. I had an inkling 'cause my my manager was just like well, we'll just cancel these march dates and these April days, and they will see how May and June is and I was like I. Don't I think this is the rest of the year. Did you did you have a panic when this started because? I, I, I was thinking about the other day. Did you ever panic when this started of like Hey So, when's the end date or did you because I really was like I'll be back on the road in June and I literally was like freaked out about that. Did you did you have like a panic when this started? I didn't have a panic when it I mean I had the initial like, let me get my shit together. I've never been a preparer I never been a hoarder of things. So I was like Oh we don't have toilet paper we don't have this. We don't have that. So it was that stress of like let's get all our bases covered and all that together and then what really got to me was when we when they made that day of black. When things are GONNA start getting back to normal and I plan made some plans after that and I Some podcast in person and then the see all those start getting cancelled and all that being like well, actually no, we're not that when it really was like Oh okay. I don't know when this is going to change and I had changed my opinion about doing zoom comedy shows have you. Done. Any zoom comedy shows I'm doing them now. Yes. I'm getting ready to do my own livestream comedy of it on Youtube the perfect I put plug I get to. September fifth ten dollar tickets you can go round punches, dot com doing our that been working on since my last special wh what my friends basically, we're doing our roadshow that we would normally take on the road since we can't we're gonNA, do it only on Zoom at tight as Chris Titus production studio. So they'll be a little temper in audience in and it'll be I think it'd be a real fun. So. So so so Titus. Got A production studio. Of course motherfucker does yeah of course. He's been way inverted. He's been. Planning, the demise of the Hollywood. System. It. Hurt stay at home owners was like this is all working out for. My wife Actually said, what's Chris Titus up to I haven't heard Ramona while because she follows follows like she follows comics. Titus up to and I was like I was like that's an interesting ask because normally with my wife like Whitney doing, what's What's like? You know Rogan do it like you know it's like it's like the people that are in my that I hang out with I talk to regularly. because. What's titus up to and I was like who fucking knows but a guarantee is doing something big. Yeah. No I He always been someone I mean growing up just loved the show I love stand up and then I had him on my podcast and just talking to him about the way that he he kind of works outside of the system. and has been self producing his own specials for years is something that you know was deeply interested to me. So this is Kinda the best way for me to do it of seeing if I can get a market of people who like made to take a thing direct to consumer, which is he he's been doing for years with great success and. I want to do because I, hate middlemen so. I've had that conversation. A lot of times we I've had a I've had a conversation, a lot of times. About middlemen, it's interesting. I got an. Had An option to do something on my own and I did something on my own with no notes and I was craving notes wanting someone to tell me what to do because once you get that often you like, yeah. But the truth is with touring with. I'll tell you podcasting man I think you know I think we started your podcast with through Halston I thinks shortly after we met yet and I told you, I said stay away from everyone make this your own have this your own because owning it yourself is so valuable. Now Yeah Yeah. That's something I. Take Very seriously and and I agree with you about the notes thing i. think we see that so often like people who create these great arts and then they get these big deals where they're like just make what you want and then it's horrible it doesn't come out well, because we all need that like that outline I being fight against sometimes known had absolutely Want to talk to you about your podcast. tell me from the beginning idea to where you are today to like what books you read to get you in the mindset and was your podcast jumping off point for. Moving in life because one say the last time we we met, you've lost a lot of weight. You've you've really gone after goals the way I haven't seen a lot of people do it. Thank you, sir, appreciate a thank you very much. the original idea. The podcast was just the thing that was like the way I talk with my friends in the people who are really really close to me. You know not the people not necessarily other comics or anything like that who are like you know friends and acquaintances. But if you're like my best friend, you were over at my house at Vision Board parties you knew that I love talking about goals and feelings and. You knew that I like doing affirmations and pumping my people and you knew that I hate negative self talk like people don't put themselves down around me because I will tell them to leave you know because I. I, don't like that energy and so it was more like the podcast was like, how can I be more meaty and bring more of me didn't even the what I'm doing on my stand up you know because those things aren't necessarily great premises of like you know but. It is who I am, and originally I was just trying original idea was to make a version of the view for men. And then I talked to a lady is she thought it was sexist and she hated it is. Just, became more of this thing about this constant service getting better because it's it's where I felt the best in my comedy when I'm anxious when I have. Is when I'm worried about getting something when I'm worried about what other people are getting when I'm worried about specials when I'm worried about rolls when I'm my best when I'm my happiest and one of my funny is when I lose all of that and all I'm worried about is my next set. All I'm worried about is getting better. All I'm worried about is my next fucking you know Jim said you know it's just Staying in the moment and ask your questions about the books There's a lot of them that I read even like in my late teens and early twenties that were helpful. For this I read a lot of books mindfulness from Fish Han The secret was a big part of its Emily Gordon's books secret. Secret broker couple comics to though. Some comics up where you're like they don't even do it anymore. Yeah. No. But I kinda that same thing with the pandemic parties I was like, well, you guys already basically just protesters onstage. Anyway it wasn't funny. You were just doing protests things. So yeah. Get out into the world and go protest 'cause you weren't funny in the beginning. When you when you were younger as a comic and you were and I I hate to I hate to kind of. Put. It this way but but you have changed so much even your energy I think it's arms and considering. He didn't a suit. You look fucking amazing like when you were younger. More overweight smoking weed was was at self esteem problems was that negative talk was that was that the stuff that you are now combating against? Yeah. A lot of it is I mean some of it was fun. It was just I was a young twenty comic was broken fat and just like smoking weed and wearing hoodies but a lot of it was yeah I I didn't believe in myself. I didn't believe that I could achieve things W- and I didn't have any background information that tell me otherwise everything else was like, Oh, you've always been poor. You've always been brogue people always make fun of you like. So like there was just this lack of faith in myself and it was it took my first acting GIG and seeing. ME. On TV and it was like this two fold thing of I was like a Whoa I didn't I was Kinda able to avoid how big I was and how unhealthy I looked because I, you know, I, just if I didn't go look in the mirror and I never noticed but when I saw myself on, TV I was forced to go like Oh holy Shit I don't look healthy and then the other half of that was like Oh shit I'm on a Sitcom and I don't even take care of myself I don't even. Barely, an acting class at that time. So it's like well, what if I buckled down go to Acton class what if I work on my health? You know if if I'm a fifth lead, not even trying maybe I'm a I lead if I fucking is a member. Yeah. Were you were you concerned about were you concerned that the the lack about the the wait was like the character they wanted and then if you lost the weight, they'd be like I. Remember going into a I remember losing weight going into a casting after I did my first Sitcom and and it was obviously is you know and I'll explain that anyone listening once you book a Sitcom you no longer audition you go straight to producers. For you it's probably just a straight offer but like but when for me at the time, it was going straight to producers and I walked in and they were like big producers were like Oh. So you like you like changing your look and you're like, no I'm just trying to take care of myself thinking why wouldn't you WanNa better your like I'm not just going to be like fucking. Like I'm going to grow also concerned about that. Yeah. I was concerned about that and it proved to be somewhat true in the short term you know I definitely lost out on some gigs that when they came for the audition or for the call back that they were like, Oh, we thought you were this and now you're not anymore you're not the guy, it even hurt my touring little bit because they were. Jews the old fat pictures because they were like well, they don't people don't know who this new person is I. Forgot about that. Happened to me too I. Like Adam Sandler Obiang. His that. I will say I have to say the best thing that happened was You know the producer that shows Bill Lawrence created scrubs and cl-. Clone high and in Cougar town leathers, Ya and He just flat out came up to me one day and he was like Hey I've seen you working out of bed. I'd seen you backslide a bit. He's like I'll I'm GonNa let you know like you. We we like you. We like you for this role because you your you and your funny. This character does not need to be fat if you don't want him to be fat and I that was something that really helped me so that I was no longer concerned that if I changed, people wouldn't want this character anymore and then mostly became fuck you. If you don't you like that guy, let me show you what I'm up really about was was working on on dateable fun experience as an amazing experience and it was one that only got more amazing to me the further I got away from it because it was all a group of Comedians who who love doing stand up and they even would. Adjust the schedule so that we would end in time so that we could go to comedy store, go the Improv and and now that I've been on other shows, I, know that that is not something they care to do. They will they will take you all frigging day and and just the freedom the freedom to come up with my own material my own jokes, my own bids, I did my own like. A Mosh the I love Lucy that they put into the show. I don't know like two minute about being high that they put in the show and just been on. Sitcom where like where they don't want to have fun where they're like clocking in and clocking out. A job I was like oh man. I. Didn't I didn't know how good I had it until it was gone. Yeah it's interesting. My First TV show is a show called the show in nineteen, ninety, two, thousand, and two, thousand I guess and. I it was the greatest job had and I remember saying I remember one of the grips telling me just so you now that I know this is your first show. They're not all like this in one day you're gonNA regret not enjoy like you're going to look back and go shit I miss this and I went in my head Ron and I, think you can probably empathize with this when you book your show and you're young and you're talented and people are telling you young and talented you think This is smooth sailing from here on out they picked the right kid this kid's got it. Have Fun standing in my ges, suckers. and Man I didn't work I didn't work right after that and I did I did Sitcom and then and then and then things started drying up and I just what I remember that guy's words to me. He was a grip big dude probably dead now up from our artisans fucking long not. And he he was so right that I show because you're experiencing everything for the first time. You're not jaded. You don't you get a parking spot and you're excited you're like, yeah. Occupy that parking spot meant so much to. Someone took the time to spray paint my name on foot like you're like. Yeah and then I was there because I was still sneak around and go to the lot in workout the gym and try to smooth around with people even after the show was canceled. So I got the joy of seeing the play and then I got the horror in the pain of watching them strip them all. It's crazy. It's crazy when you go back and like I did a show. On that lot of right after that like a guest they used to Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel had a show called a win. Ben Stein's money. Tested for it. When Jimmy left I went in and the same guy that used to check my I D I. I didn't get to drive on I had to walk on and he didn't even remember who I was and I went. Oh my God. So that's this business It truly is and you stop getting free stuff the worst that's where I'm at right now. How long? How long have you been doing stand up? Fourteen years. For. Fourteen years, that's a C-. That's enough type of base like meaning like when I started I had no base I had been doing stand up six months when I got my first deal and then a year and six months when I got my second deal and my TV show. and. So I've been doing stand up for under two years and I was on TV and I remember Patrice. O.`Neil. Tell me you got no base like it like when this goes away, everything goes away and I and I was like he's jealous. He's talking about boy was he fucking right And set an an I I'd say to you now where where you think you are where you go, you just said that man twenty two years when you get to twenty two year like. Everyone can suck my Dick Man I'm. I'm I'm not I'm definitely not well rounded, but like as Halston knows I live in a very small house I don't ask for much I don't need much an anything I make is all gravy I just WanNa make sure the girls go to college merely and can retire and like I don't need and so I think and I think your perspective shifts like you know talking to build the other day bill burr and he was like. We're talking about going on the road and he's like, no fuck it and it's not worth it man I got to new babies like I think the older you get you start going I remember I heard someone the other day say he's retiring. He's like fucking fifty years old not bill but another person was like I'm done this business can suck my Dick I. Don't need it i. don't need the headache and you're like it's a shift in mentality because you're fucking fighting years haven't even started yet like your fucking. Your fucking fight weight hasn't even started yet like I would love to be fourteen years in fucking. Love it. Don't tell me that. The hung seat like my eighty struggling over here. My projects denied inputs. Because you're fourteen years in right. No. That is with fourteen years. Let me think Halston. You still here do the math for me fourteen years in I started when I was twenty, six, hundred, forty years old forty years old I was in Australia I was the skinniest I've ever been and I realized on one of the best as my life that my job at travel channels fucking pointless. I realized I am a stripper I have no forward movement a making money I'm having a good time. But I I'm not learning anything and let me tell you something wrong. I didn't change my trajectory for another three or four years I looked at the time Tom Sawyer who I know you hate to death Thompson. Times girl I hate mystic Rick Fox back Guy Ab- joking I'm joking of joking but Thompson girl was blowing up and he's got his first netflix special. He was started toward and he was getting out of clubs going into small rock venues and I remember thinking I could it or I could stay on the track and I had kids I was like pay for Shit I need to make sure I got this house taking care of the. Not meant premium being where you are today when you're forty four. That was where I was when I got fired travel channel. My friends are all doing theaters and I'm sitting there going I can't sell clubs at the Saint Louis at the St Louis fucking. Helium 's urge is it Saint Louis Yeah they got helium near you probably the funny bone at the time no no Salim Saint Louis helium say just open it walked in and I remember the manager saying to me I'm looking at a gas station and I in my head Nas on tickets I'm fucking going nowhere I'm literally justed press and they didn't know who I was and didn't care who I was and I and they brought me in for like seven minutes and the manager said to me at the time he goes. So how long how much longer you think you can do this and I went Ron. The look on your face was look on my face. And I thought. Wow. That's what he thinks of me and then I got into a fucking fight with Doug Benson on stage and we. Other It was like one of the worst if it wasn't, for Shane Torres to. I would fuck in I don't know where I'd be I like I. Was a rough fucking weekend and I didn't make any money and that we can Doug Benson introduced me to Google trends. And it changed the way I looked at the business it entirely and I went. Oh Shit. You just gotta Pop Online Fuck Television you need people buy tickets online need someone at their computer to see you and then go how do I get tasted that an I shifted everything I got fired from travel channel right after that but like but like I say to you man fourteen, you've got a great fucking podcast and you're beyond your your interests are dialed into where our fans live like I want WanNa talk to you about wrestling WanNa talk to you about the Conan's Stop WanNa talk to you about sneakers talked about some stuff but it to get to this point to button it. You're right where you should be. You're right we be I mean I wouldn't don't. You know always look trust me I my special come out and panicking going on the road and so I just came up with this drive in movie theater tour I was like fuck it I'll make it happen. Luckily I'm in a position where I can. Force that hand on my and Go make this happen, and then when they bring me back a less than stellar offer I. Go fuck it. I can afford to lose money if I do let's do it. And then turned out very positive. We're doing another run of them but like. But like yeah, I mean. A fourteen years wrong. I would've traded seats with you any day of the fucking week so Thank you. Thank you for saying that it really helps me because you know get caught up in my own weeds and what I got going on and A lot of what you said is is something that that popped for me a little bit earlier in my head. So I'm glad that I listened because I was kind of same boat where I was like I went on dateable and then as soon as that guy canceled bef- like the next day they were like we got a meeting for you. This other show wants you to be a series regular on that show. So it's very similar. I was like, okay, this is what I do. This is easy money they just like me and then it it that show got cancelled in one season and it was not as fun to work on. And was not as enjoyable for me and wouldn't let me do stand up and I very much game where like, Oh, I don't have a base like people like me when I pop own at midnight when I pop up on different sitcoms, they like it but they don't have a way to follow me after that and that was one of the reasons why I made my podcast I was like well, even if I don't have something going on I, have a home where I can show people. This is what I'm about. This is where I'm going on and bill like you said, didn't it's my bay so I don't have to if if. The thing. That's now about not having a touring is that I miss the lease have in that Oh fuck you. That's not a good role for me. That's not a good offer. I can just go on the road fuck it, and now I'm very much in like okay. Yes I'll auditioned to be a taste buds sure. What I think is great about about us as comics is we have the ability to pivot like we have the like you know I feel bad for actors like actors I actually said something really shitty one time my daughter my daughter is a worse parenting I've ever done in my life. She was talking about. An actor and I said I have actually no. I really regret this. So I'M GONNA. Say this and I know people will hear this and I want everyone to know that not only did I take this thought back but I took it back to my daughter. As I have no respect for that person and she went why because Isla at the end of the day that person is powerless against their own future they have nothing they can do other than recite other people's words in unless the person who wrote the words decides they want that person say words they can't do anything about it like I don't, and I didn't know that I really wanted to be an actress like she loves acting and and she's a very funny at like actor in the play she does. And I and I said being comics but you want to be I wanted her to WanNa be comic but and it's stupid to do that. But I go. I would not want daughter to be calm. The are. Trying. To Trust me as better now than when I started nineteen, ninety, nine, those fucking for women. Let me tell you. That's why I defend. Ellen when everyone's won't after Ellen I go you've no idea the fucking struggle that poor woman had to go through being a not like not what the norm at the time wasn't horrific oil racist sexist jokes backstage in the eighties what people must have said to her and she just had to fuck and take it and so if she. Doesn't want to talk to you onset light, but I'm not defending Alex I don't know all the say this is why I don't talk about the deletion or anything because I have a gut instinct where I go I shouldn't say anything all I know is I like L. I like Ellen I've never been on her show I just like I think that she probably had to struggle that lot of people can identify with Yeah I learned pretty early in his career the not not let. Trends or what other people's opinions color how I judge someone I I, try not to judge someone unless I actually meet them and shake their hand, and then I can decide from looking in there I. IF I fuck with them are don't fuck with now because you know when I go especially when I was just getting started as a headline of everyone was like Carlos Car Carlos Mencia is horrible Carlton is is the worst person and everything Carlson. Come to one of my shows and just sat and watched you didn't still nothing. He just hang out he just white common and I was like, Hey, what are you? Here. And he's just like I just like comedy and he's like and I know you're a comic so I came to see you after my show and I talked to him I shook his hand and I was like you know for everything and I'm sure the shit he's done and I'm sure you know they've been thinking wish he could take back. But when I shook that man's hand I was like that's that's not a fucking evil guy that's a decent guy that was interesting question about redemption. Then because do you this our society is not allowing redemption on any long. Trend and it, and it kind of bums me out when you think that you're not allowing anyone to grow that if you were black face like Sarah Silverman did or Jimmy Kimmel did or Jimmy Fallon did or by the way it seems like everyone apparently did except for me I don't like fucking clowns. Clowns bother me. So the idea put face makeup on I did at one time in First Grade I addressed as Gene Simmons and I had and you can see the picture my yearbook I'm like this. A guy driving the whole time like the vague about me but it's like they're not willing to. It seems like people are like parties over there canceled you know and it seems like us you don't despite your and I know you're somewhat politically active but like you don't do with cancel culture, you agree with redemption. Yeah. Of course, I mean think anyone who's gone through anything in life knows that we're not finished products were all works in progress and as things I truly hate and its culture is the joke that I've been talking about is like I don't think there should be anyone allowed under twenty five on twitter in anyone over twenty-five on Tiktok that would help Krista. But the point being that you're not fully formed person you make a lot of statements that you end up regretting in your twenties or thirties or who knows how long and to be forced to live with that your whole life and people were like, well, that's who you are because you said that when you were twenty two so that's who you are now even. With ten fucking years later that doesn't make any sense to me it takes away growth takes away development takes away change and it's one of things why I don't like them like did they deleted all the black face episodes of thirty rock and to me? That's terrible because it's one thing that I would rather you hey, put a little preference go like this like they. Do with a lot of cartoons, bugs, bunny cartoons like this was the product of the time. This was not a right thing that we were doing. We recognize that but to show this in context and the show that it happened in shamed of it, we're not going to deny and act like we didn't do it and I think it's I. Mean I also just have? A weird position because one of my best friends is Sean Waldman xbox and and we wanted our first conversations. Was Me talking to him about like he was on wrestling ring in the middle of the Monday night wars back in the ninety six million people watching he did black face and now he is married to a black woman. So can you imagine how she has? Her family dinners. I think expert gets a pass. He's had a rough. He's he been through a lot. Go ahead. Bucket wasted I was was like I think but we it is interesting that like Things you see now I don't think I watched A. A a Shirley Temple episode. The tour bus about because I her Whitney talking about Shirley Temple being a sex. It was about sex and like it was odd that a little girl with no father would walk around and sit in men's laps was like I was like that's interesting because I never thought of Shirley Temple as I was started the racist side the. Yeah, that's when I think of example, I think of immediately I think of a black men had to be actors in the whatever the thirties and take these horrific roles and and do, and they had to do what miserable miserable roles the time and I watched a movie called a little rebel with Shirley Temple. You've seen it. No, let me let me pitch it to you. Okay. Okay. All right first. Is Shirley temples like sixth birthday. So she gathers all her slaves, right? It run it gets so much fucking worse. It gets so much what by the way? That's the first scene of the fucking movie is her making them dance and then and then referred there. The other six year olds are holding. It is so bad. But the crescendo the where it gets horrific is they dress Shirley temple in black face and she hides in closets and they dress her in black face with an aunt Jemima do rag. And she and and it's all about them fighting the North Her dad's a confederate soldier and the north is horrible and they portray the north as being horrific and you're like hold on the poor the my heart broke for. For. The my heart broke and a lot of places, and by the way this why I think it's important. They don't get rid of scrub. Our history of these movies is that it's important to feel is I'm cinema tour bus among over got Shane captain woke above me. I have any questions I can run by him so. I'm watching this I feel bad for the older dudes they're playing like her slaves. I felt really horrific really horrific for the children the slave children there by the way they're just actors but then these are these are just young black people in the thirties who had to play slaves. By the way their grandparents were definitely slaves but they had to play slaves and native place of servants, slaves to Shirley Temple, and to watch that interaction on screen. But to know that offscreen, it wasn't probably that much different from them for them. I, just sat there and I was like I couldn't i. Couldn't get through the movie but like I got to I, describe forward to like go like just give me the point. So tried to joke about it and I couldn't. I couldn't even write a joke about excels like it's really gross it's really gross to think but I don't think they should be scrubbed I don't think. Like I think they should get rid of confederate statues only because. The reason they were put up was bad. Yeah. You know like I don't think they should get rid of. Names of cities per se like I don't thinks get rid of Washington DC or Columbus or or Austin, or all the cities that they want to change names up because then we're just going what are we gonNA call district seven we're turning into well, I think overall I mean that's just use the complicate with the real issue is right like the real issue is a very, very sensitive. Want you to tell explain that it is used a complicate the real issue. And it's by the far, right? Yeah. Is this all these things that are thrown in and added like well, they want this they want that and they want to change the world and they wanna run thing and even Terry crews is out there being like well, we can't make it turned into black lives better and it's just like dad is not what this has ever been about even though if that happened, fuck you your turn. But the point of black lives matter is very simple. Hey please if you're a civil servant if your job is to protect your community, please don't kill us that's An if that is too much if you happen to accidentally culas. please. Let there be some repercussions. That's it. That's the whole thing is about and it's bigger I mean as much people then go allies matter Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and it's like yeah. That is used as such a throwaway statement but what they don't understand is how important black lives matter is that they're very statement. It is a test case of like if you allow this to happen to the people that you can I the same propaganda that they use, for Nazis Japanese it then these like you just refer to black people as thugs and. As violent as this, and then if you're just willing to go like, well, you shouldn't fight with the police and you shouldn't run from the police and you shouldn't do this. That's why you get murdered and then the next thing you know there's vans in new. York. City. Picking up everybody saw fucking scary by the way. Listen I'm always I always keep my. My mouth away from politics the all I see when like I don't I don't talk Antifa. Proud. I tried to stay away from all of that. You know just because like I said, I haven't done any of the research I can tell you I don I think police brutality is horrific when I watch those videos, it hurts my heart, I can tell you. That when Trayvon Martin. Died I didn't see two parents see to black people talking about a black kid I saw two parents grieving child. That's all I saw and when I see the advanced picking up kids and I'm not talking politics all I see is a bunch of grown men don't a child in a van I think of that the little girl being. I don't like I said, I'm not talking politics by Sea Island grace, my youngest spray paint and a fucking camera and going fought This. This is my little political statement taking a broom in and a camera, and then I see her walk down the street with friends van and a bunch of News Donen van. That's all I. See I'm not talking politics. I'm just telling you what I see and so I I agree with you I think that things get. fucking really clustered up and people take these things that we shouldn't disagree on. Team try to politicize what a basic human rights and that's a problem. The that someone doesn't deserve to die should not be a thing that you have an argument on. There's not a Democrat or Republican side to not. Killing people if you're a civil servant that should just be a human thing and then we are unfortunately live in a time where they politicize everything and is just Is just the fact that this is not the America that I wanted or I was born into or. Are that. We celebrate anyone where they can just pick up people and throw them in a van like no matter what you disagreement there is the course of action that we've been taught to take and how to act and how to behave, and we're no longer doing that. So I don't consider it political I consider it humanistic. I consider where we need to save the American way and because the people who were wrap themselves up in it but are lying and they're not they're not here to support us whether you're white black, whatever they're here to get rich and still our money and that's it. It's tough. It's tough for why? Why suffer white guys let me rephrase rephrase that. It's tough for white guys to be a part of this conversation right now because I know that my interactions with police officers have been. And I have say there's nothing but respectful I've never had a I've had dick cops but by by by me diffusing the situation Ab- and just saying, yes and hands on the on the thing and Lights Inter lights on I've had them go away and so it from my experience it's like once again to go back to the LIA, it's like for my experience I go. I. Don't know what it's like to be dehumanized by a police officer I did see documentary about the La about race and and cops in La and it sounded to me like black people were basically into three streets like four streets would they like? All right this were black people live, and by the way the cops here now are to make sure they don't get out of the. Guys are cowboys cattle don't let them get into where we live. That's what it's like and so once you see something like that, you can't see it and then go you can't. Then go okay. Now I got to ignore what black people are saying you have to go. Oh, this does sound like I gotta listen. That's by the way it's all I've been trying to do you know how hard it is to not W. Kamau Bell? I got a couple of questions to ask you about bugging the N. Word or fucking like like I got a few questions about the N. words a bad example but like but like since. I've heard from every black dude except for rollins don't fucking ask me Shit just listen don't fuck and bring your issues to me justice and on Mike, and I'm just sending the cut listening and yeah, I think as your levels of friendship relationship, right? You know like I grew up in Oregon you know I I mean I is brazen south side of Chicago very, very blackberry, very fully black neighborhood and then I ended up living in Salem. Oregon. My turned thirteen when was the exact opposite in? So I have a history of use of being a lot of. white people's first black friend. You know I've met a lot of people who consider themselves racist before they met me and it used to bother me and he's like well, fuck you I'm the same as any other black person would you have that but I've learned that usually at the root, there are very few people there small group of people some of them within the White House that are truly racist and truly bad people and truly went bad things. But the majority of people just don't know they're just ignorant and they fall to whatever the mainstream tells them. Until. They are. Posed with a different view or they meet a different person or they you know hang out with me and we're listening to DJ quickening turnaround listening to Johnny Cash, and then they go. Well, what the fuck how can I hate you? How can I hate your people you know and I just wish more. There just needs to be a bit of a balance with everything of like they say what a lot of blaby where they're just like. Well, we'll fuck US too late but you learned about June teens too late but to me, I'm just like kind of like Whoa fuck you guys are interested those that's that's good. But yes, please go learn on your own read your own books, white fragility and whatnot and then but Bert if you have question as me directly, that's fine too because we're friends but just don't go up to a random black person on the street. was interesting because I don't think and this is a blind spot I think with me but I think there's a forced blind spot I think that society forced this blind spot onto me. I used to have a joke when our earliest when I started that because I grew up in Florida and I heard the N. word a lot like. I used to joke about it but when. them were was always tethered to another word to make it a verb. Like. So An. But I remember getting a New York and being like and seeing what I considered to be. No racism everyone said, no one was racist and that was a very amok progressive time was the early two thousands and I would say stage everyone's I think everyone's racist and everyone would go. We'll woke I'm definitely not racist I don't see color and I remember going like I remember spiting my left going you don't color how the fuck do you get through the world like you don't like you gotta see color a little bit like everyone color like that is the most ignorant thing to say appeal like. No No. No. I don't see color used to drive me nuts. So I started buying into it and I guess I am fucked up in that I'm assuming things about everyone just based on experience, and then all of a sudden to see these Karen's yelling go back to your country and and to see people say the N. Word in public like into shouted in eight like was if you're in your car, I talked to Trinidad James about it. If you're in your car, your winters I, Love Trinidad Jay Oh dude he is my favorite person like all gold everything I is one of my favorite his. Hey. His new song, a one of his new songs on A. Just. Release three is called a black owned. Have you heard you know? You're. Welcome. Again on it, you fucks with him heavy and then the industry like they fucking with him but I was like, no, this is stylistic. Cool as dude I'm still fucking between a dairy stylistic Tom and I said he's got the best Aaron about. He has the best hairstyles in hip hop image, snoop, Snoop Scout, beautiful beautiful different styles of like his remember the video and he's walking around shirtless with a backpack holding puppy and I was like fucking knows the good. He needs to put out there. He knows that the Shit I would do you know you know he's really shoes to right? I would imagine no like like he's got a shoe podcast, a shoe show that they do. That's how cigar super introduced me to turn James and me and him a like instagram live together and we talked about his use of the word than my my appropriating in my car, and then how does he feel about me in my car and his response once again, I'm paraphrasing it this is not what he said I then Misheard I apologize but his response was it's my art, and if you use responsibly and you're not being an asshole about it, then I want you to enjoy my art you know. So that's my point about that will pivot and talk about Trinidad, though his. Before we I do WanNa get into that point. You said because I think it, it takes out intention when you start just policing word usage and you start just policing. Like we'll go to a different rapper like this rapper named Sean that was really popular at like five eight years ago she had one song co Gucci. Gucci. That that people and then they found out that she said the N. Word ally and everybody got all crazy about and was like well, well well. But what they fail to realize is that she was born and raised in the bay where they just throw it out a rat. Word around no matter what race you are it is about their community and we were judging their community that we weren't a part of so I I look like that a lot and as far as the not seeing any color that's one I mean that's one of the racist calling cars when you hear that, 'cause you like when you when you say you don't see color you're saying you see everyone is why you see everyone is yourself. Every your whitewashing everything. When I was doing this joke into moines in two thousand seven fucking bro that is that is the fucking. That is the. I. Wish I had had the insight to have that. To, say that because. You're right. When you say you don't see color you're saying I. See everyone is white. Yeah. That's it. And then you're disregarding people's different culture and are different ways of being and when you don't see someone's color, you don't see their way of life. You don't see their struggle that they've been through. You're putting them through a lens. It everything is just whitewash and I mean, no e color is I know when? I know when someone's a little bit different and just try to respect even if I don't understand those differences. He because I'm not aware of their culture, you just go I don't get it. I don't know it but I, respect it. I mean I've been obsessed with I've been obsessed with hip options since they first displayed it on twenty twenty. Back. That's where I've found hip sad. Twenty twenty and then I was like, and then I was like I gotta get a what was the first man mantra onyx was at the first I'm trying to think of the first hip hop album my name songs called Baseline Day was male you because you the first album I ever bought with Jeez, the score a wow I'm so much older than you I. Remember. 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So I talked on the phone and I be used to have the you're lucky when you're a kid, you had like the my sister and get one but I got like a full stereo like it up top was the the record player and then you had dual tracks we could record stuff why had a ray gay in one and then I had hip hop in the other and I would listen to hip hop. But if a girl called I hit pause and put it on Reggae I didn't want her to think I listen to hip. Razi? But it's funny like. I. Still See like I I. I'm fascinated by by different culture meaning like like the Terry crews thing is interesting to me because I feel like a feel like. I'll be honest with you. I. Feel like the Black Community, it wasn't even with him when he metoo dude. Feel like like I heard blackout black comics talking backstage about him and I was like wait I like I'm just listening. And you know what? By comics I'm talking about backstage if you're GONNA be traveling Terry crews. Yeah. ooh I could see their faces. People were waiting to pounce on him. I mean I really was not I'm too. But I understand what you're saying because there's a lot of homophobia in the by community and there's a lot of things like well, your big book back. When you got you saying you got sexually abused by you know some tiny way agent people I mean just right for jokes I understand I understand that but you know that's the thing he went through I'm not gonNA fucking dismiss it I'm not GonNa be. I wouldn't even know if it's as much. Homophobia with black dues. But with white dues because I know for a bigger in the black community, I'll tell you for. Really, yeah, we have a whole thing about you know that you ever heard about the down low and all that I heard about about real to be honest. Yeah, just black media of like very flamboyant black dudes who were acting like they weren't gay but they were and now that say that it sounds like I'm out in myself because a lot of people on my youtube videos keep telling me that I'm gay and I haven't come out yet A. But who knows who knows what the future holds for me? I I've been following phase on love and Cameron. First of all, I'm friends with Ken, right? Like I love crooked camera brands like we taxed at a couple of times and Matama the Knicks game and him doing my show and But I've been watching that and the all I will say and I'm fans above them. A fan of phase on loves I am legitimate phase on loves and I am a legit Fan of Jim Jones Cameron old dip set like. I was in New York. Well, I moved to New York when that when they popped so and you know there's something about New York, stay on point bird but there's something about New York that went an artist from New York pops in New York that is your Sunday when you're walking on the street, that's the music you hear planning cars on Sundays when it's sunny and the top down and you connect that music. Engineer DNA. That's who you become. That'll east coast is like that whenever I go to Philadelphia I still hear them playing Memphis bleak and all. You know rockefellers yet and I'm like, Damn. They wrap down hard still now and so But I will say having Saddam fans of both of them they're back and forth calling each other gay is so blind like this like guys like Cameron love. Cameron I'll say it again he's like just so you know I've got friends in the LBJ community AU community, but he's gay and you're. Like Like that. You're missing the point. AM phase on you gotTA. Respect. Base. I don't even give a book. He's really gay. Sounds like a lover's quarrel. Satellite somebody stole somebody's boyfriends. Is Really. Is really fascinating to me as like a trying to grow type of dude not saying, I am at all but like trying to listen as best I can to like scroll and you know you can't help what Google news tells you what you're interested in. They give a fuck then like, oh, by the way, you really end of boats launching. What you say. As I am and so they're like and you're by the way you're also across on Chelsea handler even though you've talked about her on stage just so you know you're right. You're right. You're right I. Do when I didn't at first then when I met her and was working on Chelsea lately, you will fill the power coming off of her and that's very attractive I don't think I. Would I met her once I don't think I have a crush on her if I met her I think her energy would turn me off but I think she's beautiful and I love her stand up and I like her I like her I I like from afar I like her like I. Watched her go to. With, this game I want to go skiing like three months in a row. Those a Goddamn she fucking awesome. My wife never lets me hit a bay PIMLICO among we're going scam. Let us go skiing for a weekend. She went skiing for three fucking months to gain for three months and then dropped a documentary on white privilege. Because she's living the life she was well versed. But but anyway, I finally even know what we're talking about but. Regardless that Terry crews last I knew. then. They're going after him about black supremacy is that what it is? Yeah. So what? What, like what is is that the idea that they that that? Let me I'll tell you what it sounds like is that No one no one ever stands for the national anthem now, and the is black rights first, and then everything after that is that what box purposes? I don't think it's a real thing. I think. That Terry's talking about that is like a basically he's using fearmongering and old tactics that people use before. But because again, as we talked about is a very simple thing that that black lives matter is asking for and what people are getting mad about Terry crews about is that he is choosing to put himself into the conversation no that no one gives a god, Damn Fuck what he thinks, and then do his privilege and using his power and using his platform to. Undermine was going on and act as if it's this thing that we're trying to act for ask for black superiority that we're trying to ask for people to change your way of life you. WanNa, stand for the anthem and chill I don't think anyone has a problem with that. We have a problem with a system that's designed not value our lives and the worst. No I, people probably like well Ron. You're fucking out in the valley. You don't have to deal with that and and as true own some occasions depending on where I go and then they're like, Hey, you're out of bounds. But what what you have to deal with every single day is this fear and the stress that anytime you see a police car. If you see lights coming behind you, it sends a Chill Down My. Spine ahead of yesterday wasn't even real police cars. One of those people who had taken a car and make it look like a police car but it sends a chill down my spine that I had to shake for like the next ten fifteen minutes and it puts a concern. Medina's concerned about my son who is half black and autistic and does not follow directions well, and what his interactions with a police officer who's having. A bad day would be like and that's what we're talking about is that living with that fear living with that stress and living with that reality is unnatural and not something that we should have and with Terry, crews is talking about is just it's fear mongering that he's bringing up that if we get rights if we somehow get better, we will just continue to be like well now we need reparations and we need this. And now we need that and and now you're are lays in the ones fucking saying that Newin said that at all and the fact that a man who I assume who had I have a lot of respect for working that hard to get to where he is in the Hollywood would turn around and say these very destructive things is fucking like horrible me and I got I got no love for that. No respect for that. I feel I thought about your son when that and by the way in. That young man who used to play Violin for the for the deceased animals off forget his name he violin for a rescue animals. he was he was killed and it was clear. I think that he he was part autistic maybe or on the spectrum and that that the dialogue for and I? Think there's been actually a big I. think there's is been with autism and cops I sometimes I think black the color black definitely accentuates but there has been problems with cops dealing with autistic kids but it obviously gets worse if you're black because there's already a the cop may have predisposed view of how the. Is GonNa go and if you aren't following instructions like a lot of autistic kids will have a problem that I thought about that. Immediately I thought about your songs I thought God. Dammit man that your son I don't have to say is one of the sweetest kids in the world just from his instagram stories just a sweet kid who's in his lane likes doing when he likes doing and and that's it never going to harm a soul in his life and this kid looked the. Kid's name. And you just think God damn. Alive Mclean I saw that and here's the weird place I'm in is. I don't want to tweet about it. I don't WanNa tweet about allies McLean, I don't want to put it out there because I feel like. I shouldn't have to you should see that in feel the same way I do and if I put it out there I feel like legit 'em virtue sibling like, Hey, just you know one of the go white guys I thought this was horrible when I go. Everyone should think this horrible does that make sense? No, it makes a Lotta sense and it's something I. I've been struggling and dealing with recently when George Foreman Diet and Brianna. Taylor. Died was also just a personal story was also around the same weekend that my friend hung. And I was busy Annadale in with that to miss. This was i. he was friends with Bain. Yes. Obtain had been very very, very funny. Dude I heard him on was that he was the the bone zome and Brendan. Yeah. He was very very, very funny dude. And it was heartbreaking I'm sorry for loss. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. He's very funny. Very troubled. Gentleman very you know just. Probably was dead as Winston and he he killed himself at the same house that I lived in when I first moved to. Los Angeles where I remember filling at my most law and my most weakest and so it really hit hard to me at the same time. All these things were going on and I didn't post I was stay off instagram and I remember getting a couple of messages from from one guy in particular. Who is like? When are you going to talk about joy? When are you going to talk about joy floyd and I just ignored it because I was dealing with my own thing and then he wrote back again he goes I'm following you because you refuse to talk about what's going on in the world because you were so worried about what's going on with your paycheck and you'll next Hollywood gig you refuse to speak out and I wrote him back and I was like look I don't know you anything. I grieve in whatever way I choose to grieve and I got it on my own personal things going on in my life right now and it pissed me off and I got about that. But then I thought about it a little bit more. And I was like. He's not mad at me. He's scared. He's looking for a leader. He's looking for someone to believe in and right now you're supposed to be the messages that we like these things are tragic and horrible, and sometimes they happen in life but we're used to at least then someone standing up and going this will never happen again while we'll make sure you know we're gonNA. Put out a task force make sure stuff again. But instead which again, it's the thing about black lives matter we're shown. That matter. It's cool. Good Oh you know. Are Fine police officers is doing their jobs, and if these thugs didn't act up these things wouldn't happen and that's when it truly becomes soul-crushing and it truly becomes the thing like who I turn to who is the leader, and then some people turned comedians and they turned to the people who are known for speaking their mind and if I don't say exactly what they want to say me to say, they're like, Oh, you failed me to you know and so I look at it as like we're all as a country right now. Really. Looking for leadership and unfortunately sometimes we we look for it in places where we shouldn't get it like I'm not your leader I'm here to tell jokes and tell you how I feel and do my dumb shit until you my opinions. But none of them are fact you know why so many people love Joe Rogan is like, yeah, he's smart and he's funny and he does read things but do is should I listen every? Goddamn. Word he says she didn't play video games. No, he's just one fucking guy who fair factor who gives a shit. Yeah he's. He got blown up for that fucking video game shit his opinion isn't that GonNa? Kit Gamer like like just for the record, he was playing video games like back in the day he had he was obsessed with quake. He wants he spent like thousands of dollars to get a teat s one line drill drilled into his fucking arment into his apartment so that he could play. Quake so like so like I do I I talked to Tommy about this the other day but I I meant video games for me has. Is is something I. I have a key S P. Like. Here are video games from my psp I need to stay away from the PUCK NPS be. I have a problem with it and it deflects up my life just for real. It fucks up my life and that I will just sit in my man cave and play on it and not spend time with my daughters. I understand partially what Joe Sang and do. But and I think there are people that like that the fantasy dials in the fantasy dolls into real life and they overlap at times. But I don't know he's just Joe Joe I know very well. So like say Manley got high and talked about if you could throw fish ten feet in the air and they started flying would there be any fish left on the earth and that's the same guy. Yeah. Exactly, he'd love to make strong opinions and he talks about and that's why people like them but. The thing is when people take it as the Gospel as if he's like you know some type of politician or some you know king, it's just just one man strong opinion which is why he makes us laugh you know here's. Is the problem is is Joe has been Joe for a lot of people I wouldn't say the problem I know I use Joe Joe's a really close friend of mine. Every I don't need to say that to anyone but like I definitely lean on Joe when it comes to like like fucking breathing like this crazy like I'm doing read a book about breathing because Joe had the guy on the podcast I've got a fascinating I've read books on the native American wild. Native Americans in the Wild West? I've read books on I lean dawn Joe as a as a leader at a lot of times these. Joe also told me hey man you need this and I just go out he's also just joe like you know and and I think Joe would say the same thing I'm not your dad I've heard him say that to people I'm not your dad I'm just show like so it's it is a weird thing because people lit me up on black lives matters day the. Day because I because I disabled comments. And disabled comments because Tom and I had a running joke on podcast that burt was racist. So like if I it was the joke and then people will say it and we didn't. We thought it was funny because I'm I was not but the. Whatever say whatever you want of course would say that and what would happen was people would clip out courses of the podcasts and edit them together. So it looked like I was saying horrific things about whatever Eskimos or whatever. So or in you it's bad and so. So I disabled comments because I didn't want people to make jokes on a very serious day that I fell was you know that that wasn't the time to make that joke. and Man I got fucking destroyed like how dare you your silence is deafening you. You have made money off the backs of black people, your entire life, how dare and I'm like, what are you like I'm literally going what the fuck you talking about. And then and then I think you're right. I think people are just lost and they're scared and and they think they think we're someone that we really aren't like an and I know that they think I I must be like millionaire in a mansion with servants, butlers and expensive cars and you've been to my house that's not who I am and shoes the free stuff. Upgrade shoes right now I wanNA talk to you about shoes. We're GONNA literally it goes but but it's it's interesting that they do look and then what's what's problematic I believe is there are some comedians who have stopped doing comedy altogether and just want to be leaders and you know not even like. Joe Doesn't do that like don't fucking how dare you tell me who to vote for like? Yeah, I think you are you're GonNa go like just you know here's one vote and for that's owned for you like you come on man a grown man I got to high school the fuck out of my face. Yeah. You can have strong opinions and I obviously. I. Have Strong beliefs in. Won't get into it but I think overall. And my fiance talk about a lot is that just making sure even though a lot of people seem to be going away but that I stay classy like I never found it classy to ask someone who they're voting for her to. Get into their face about voting like You do what you want I'm GonNa do what? I want my strong opinions. I have a firm belief that obviously things have not gotten great again. So maybe we should go in other direction but you do you on you. Do you feel and that's the reason we have a democracy irs or are we did until a few months ago Has Been. Crazy man this has been one of the most fucked up. Of My life, I feel privileged to experience it. I feel privileged to to live through it and to go okay it's been tough at times but But I you know. Better than boring. Hey, how how lucky we are we that we I mean this sounds crazy. But we got to experience Dave Chapelle 's fucking thirty five minutes set on Youtube. The data dropped I got chill bumps and I watched it bed imbed first thing in the morning watch the whole thing beginning to end and I went. Yeah. Man Like this is a shift in history Yeah. Really Interesting really enjoyable. I left go unlike mandate Chapelle has a lot of anti transsexual material for a guy who dresses a lot like a drag queen on his way to. To a performance you know he looks either just finish the performance dressing down or he's just about the dress up either way I thought that mess tank top was a mistake. Up. Do you see what he's doing in Ohio with the with the? With the socially distance thing in the field. That's what I and that's where this conversation started but that's what I love about comics is the pivot and say, I'm GonNa do something different. You know like I'm GonNa Fuck you figure out my lane you know. There's a young lady that there's a young lady I wish I could remember her name and she is doing a live show much like you're doing. She's doing it from her garage and doing streaming and charging ten dollars per ticket and see I think he's already like two hundred, seventy, five, thousand dollars of people. Donate it. Near that. So if they want to switch over to me. New Quick. Before we're still on because you know everyone's listening to this podcast are they get their info we're not ending. But where did they get the where they get to see this? Easily you just go to Ron Punches dot com you can find a link right away. It's going to be up on Youtube September fifth live comedy special featuring me Blair sake best friend Gabe Dinger New Era material that I've been working on just go ROB PUNCHES DOT COM it'll be the first thing that pops up that I'm doing. So please go get tickets. So now are you gonNa once you do that? Is that our going to be retired you're GONNA work on a new our oh I'm many keep working on. This is more that's why I'm calling it a live stream event in. Comedy special in case someone wants to reach out and give me more money to actually record it but it's just you know I recorded my my last special two years ago. So I had about an hour that was comfortable with, and then I have all this new material now from dillon with the. Matter in the covert, and so I wanted to do that while it's still somewhat you know poignant while still timely before you know you can't wait until this all goes away and then I'm like, Hey, here's what I thought about what was going on a year ago. I got lucky. I. Got Really Really Lucky Ida Great. crowbars. Joke that I was doing in when I was doing the road that no one got because no dating understand that you said Noah coronavirus was and then Crun- hit the joke works, and now that I'm doing these drive-ins is my favorite bit and ev and by the way I just start the bit and everyone goes Oh, I, like it's like a great like you don't have to tell all. Over it. And now you have that all. So great as when they get right on board from the setup the best who wanted to ask you about the as me by one day as you what's Are they honking the whole time like I don't understand to plan it to me the drive ins show mazing. It's a great experience. I wish. I could give it to everyone It's It's IT'S It's I hate to oversell exam oversold it to just about everybody and and I understand that my fans aren't who goes sees every show. Yeah. My fans are pretty awesome fancier comedy fans. They are podcast fans they are comedy special fans like they watch specials. You know like you could talk to anyone that's one of my fans and they'd be like I saw Tom I saw patents I watched a little bit of Hannigan spy's like they might watch the whole thing I listened i. Right, there with me, they were me. I was like I. Get it. Though so But it's awesome. Man The show start. So so people start lining up on the street outside the driving around five three o'clock show starts at nine, and so they're in their cars either smoking or having a cocktail. pre-game doors open seven everyone kind of sets up it starts tailgating people pulling out grills or cooking burgers or Cornhole, and there's don't football. Now. Here's what I love about it is that it is as socially distance as you're comfortable with. So myself personally I know you're by the same way I wouldn't I wouldn't be too far from my car I may not even get out. Of My car right in event like this but I'm allowed to have that opportunity I'd Netflix where a mask outside I'm allowed to have that and if you're more comfortable and if you feel more comfortable, then you can do that as well. You have this little area. This kind of blocked off for you until everyone's got their own little space everything socially distant everyone's pre-game and. They're setting up couches in front of their cars the crank in their late radios up music that I find to be Americana, 'cause it's a very Americano. Yeah. A Little Tom Petty Lonely and I play music all feeds through their FM. They're all the same FM station. The music art picks everyone pre parties show starts around eight forty, five everyone watches a beautiful sunset every. Sunset has been magical show starts gets dark. We bring bring three comics onstage to east to ten minutes I go up do about an hour five it's interesting you WanNa do end drive in movie theaters you want to do less time than more. It's better to do the material as opposed to try to fuck around the absolutely because you can't connect you can't really hey how They accent. But it's also interesting is fucking around in the moment for like something that's going on say like like the first time I went up on stage. My Fi- was down and I did know it and so and so I someone yelled it in the IMO from one of the cars an assault on the ninety foot by nine foot screen and I was like I just WanNa take my dick out and see what it thinks what what it looks like what I think you should look like. Last one anything in the moment works, but they are completely respectful like no one's tackling. No one's honking everyone's listening big laughs like if you're a good comic I, say that I got a practice act I don't want every comic thinking. They can just do a spot at a drive in if they if they've just done it for like four years, it's not that. You gotta be legit comic yet had that we all sat ben through all the open Mike, all the empty shows, all that. Yeah and done a couple of USO tours done an arena done outdoor college event done a cafeteria have your chops about you where you know how to the moment and not just panic and go I guess I'm just GonNa read jokes you know Autumn Yeah you've got to know what you're doing and big laughs get big thunder last like big thunder laughs and you can fuck around in a in a story works like I'm I'm going to storyteller two stories work really really wealthy people are there for it and they're just they're very comfortable. They're a lot of people bringing inflatable couches, hammocks they're in their they got their back back their trucks up and on their back there flatbed. And then the best part to best parts I'll say is when you're done thank you. Good night everyone gets in their car flicks, their high beams and hits their horns and it feels like you're getting -ducted by aliens. I got high in Fort Collins and on the late show, they fucking went nuts and I was like, Oh, my God and then and then I get. I get a golf cart and I drive through traffic while they're all exiting and I do a meet and greet social distance meet-and-greet sat in the back of a golf cart. Thank you is is out of this world I got shit on a lot of comics I imagine a lot of comics were. That's what do you do anything that they have not seen before? That's what comics do you have friends of mine friends of mine just shit on it Chapelle. Shit on. He's not a friend of mine was Chapelle show on it. Vessel in the facile he said on it allows which is berry off brand for him because he is a guy who did stand up in Washington Square Park on a fucking soapbox like that's how we got his start. So I kinda was like. And by the way, he is also doing it in a field in Ohio. So like I was kind of like, Hey, day that's not definitely not see my mother don't get me started on that. I had a lot of times. When I started doing my little commercials, I would do every time I had a tour gay I would try to make a little local TV sow commercial with me and my green screen and then I. See all these comedians making fun of it and talking about me, and then I started hearing from clubs that they were requiring people to make these videos and I started seeing other comedians start making their own videos, emulate my style. No one ever saying, Hey, we got the by then they're like, oh, no everybody makes commercial but I know I remember you squarely making fun of. Me For doing this, Oh, I got mocked Motte I've been mocked by comics that I that I appreciate 'cause I've been doing. I've been doing promos for my shows since what on his back to in clubs I've been doing theaters for a couple years but now announce a theater tour with you know doing a dance video people make fun of me for fucking nonstop. What the fuck are you you're in a speedo guess what I dance sold over fifty eight, thousand dollars, worth of tickets. So Suck my Dick and I guarantee you you something some it's it's such a fucking shitty business because. I'm not trying to fuck anyone's career up by doing drive ins at all. By the way just you know had it not worked I would have been the one everyone made fun of and I was comfortable taking that hit because I was willing to try it. We're. Really, like quite the opposite you do and you do in these drive ins means that you are at a club taking someone else's by which they will easily be like, no, we won't. Bert come in take disbarred because he's GonNa sell out and then bumps other people down the line. So you go in until the. Drive INS helps comedians. And I told every comic every comic out there and I've had a number of comics that some of the biggest comics in the industry that I respect more than anyone reach out to me and be like I wanted to drive ins. One guy was like this isn't your thing like I'm not taking your thing are you on I? was like no I came up with the idea of like I was definitely the first person that no one was getting offers for drop INS. and. No one was willing to jump on his Laura's quick I was to see the bug worked or failed I figured that you want to know secret time Ron do you to know where I looked at it I looked at it is I took I got my first initial offer was like thirteen cities and I went seems like a lot of I don't like. It is going to be a long fucking thirteen long three weeks, and so I said I'll tell you what let's do. Four cities do four cities see how it sells people may not want to buy drive and tickets done. So well, we'll do and we'll get we'll get out will lose money. It's not a big deal I watched a documentary on on Lebron James as called the decision and it was it was about him and his team. Deciding to be take take charge of his narrative for the rest of his life and I found that fascinating I thought. That's exactly what Michael Jordan did. Michael Jordan was known for most kids out there today as the crying Jordan the crying black man. That's all know Michael. Jordan as they never got him play they don't know anything about him and Michael Jordan did the last dance and he took care of he took charge of his own narrative and said, no, no, no. No I'm the greatest that ever was is as a bitch fucking was A. Guy That went to the fucking magic aback backstabbers grant grants a backstabber Buck Scottie. Pippen. would be nothing without like he literally was like Auntie Jeremiah Narrative I saw that and I thought I thought If. These shows are Shit I'll just bring a film crew with me. I'll shoot it the way I wanNA shoot it and and I will take care of my own narrative and no one except the people that were there. No one will know they were a nightmare. I will never say that it was a nightmare right but it'll be regardless it'll be a funny story like I'll go on rogin lasts about it and I'm I'll be real on Rogan but narrative wise I was like it looked fun I'll take whatever's fun out of there and make them like fun shows, and then the truth is we did the first one and it was picture ask it was like better than I ever imagined. Worked I went. All right. Look if I I wouldn't be doing twelve more cities in next week if it wasn't A. Right now, it's this week I'm releasing it now, but I wouldn't be on the road doing twelve more cities doing a TV show and then coming home and doing another twelve cities on my ride home. If I didn't enjoy it and I want I really say this when I started getting trashed by a guy that was a friend of mine and. And he was on his own podcast uses kind of shitty about it. And I thought, I wish I could get him out of the House and doing stand up again because that's all it is is that he wants to do stand up and can't stand up and get it like it's again it is not financially half-full rooms are not financially. Productive. To anyone the club comic knowing especially if you don't have one hundred of the door deal like that. I mean I did I did run a clubs at one hundred, the door I got one, hundred, seventy door. You don't get. That's not happening for the majority of comics, and by the way those aren't financially beneficial. You're just like I'm putting my life risk putting other people's lives at risk I. Know they're trying to do the best candidate safe but is this worth it? I don't know if it is. By the way these drive ins aren't financial financially a cash grab at all. I to travel with my own stage. I've traveled with another tour bus full of a crew that all have to stay socially distant everyone lives in the bus. Everyone's getting like more money than they normally should make because of where we're at. So these aren't even financially acceptable but what it is doing is it's keeping me sane getting on the road I'm connecting with fans, and by the way I'm doing to people. What I would want done to me and thank God for Jeff Tweedy for doing drive in theater tour because he's taking Wilco in the drive ins and doing drive ins and I will go out of my way to see him because I want that in a one reconnect with society and I wanNA, do it to Safeway and so I can offer that to a person that likes my comedy. I'm GONNA do that but I want to do that. I. Wish I could do that for more comics. Or just sit at home frustrated buccaneers. Australian. Yeah the take away the thing that we've been doing every day often the five six days a week for for over a decade for most of us. And you pull that away and makes you feel very pointless makes you feel like you don't have reason the live in some cases and I'm lucky because I have a son I have a fiance, but even I will wake up and go. Oh, why am I feeling? This is because I don't feel that the reason when since I was even before I started when I was seventeen sixteen, the reason I thought well, I was put here on this earth was to do comedy and to make people laugh and make people happy and when you can't do that really messes with your mind and that's why I started getting back into doing zoom shows they did one with. Maria battered and I could tell that she'd been doing it since you know she she's like she had never gotten off the horse that she's been doing five cents a week since March and I was like Oh shit like she doesn't care about I'm sure she does but she's not letting it stop her that she's not getting the reaction she wants she's not getting that that dopamine drip she's not getting the the the high that we get from being on stage. She's going out and performing because she knows that's her job, and that's what she was put here to do and it helps other people and the I'm Ben to look at it more like this like. Needed Matt now more than ever. You're needed now more than ever. People are stressed the fuck out and if you can do it safely and do it in a way that that that gives people a little bit of A. Respite from what's going on in the world you're you're being positive. I don't see how anybody to hate it. I mean I, myself was just like how does this work sounds? No it's it's really awesome. It really is awesome. If you get an opportunity to do one or to do a couple I know that a lot of people reached out and they're doing smaller ones who doing stuff irvine improv parking garage it's just fun man it really is it's just doing it's just a weird gig. That's all it's like saying like when you do well, you do well and you walk I I. Remember. I. Had to do a do a classroom one time they brought me into a classroom and they go ahead and do it and I didn't think it would work and it was so much that I was like book more classrooms shows like it's the same thing I. Think I know that they're doing some in Chicago they're doing a lot of people. So when I started doing it, I was the one that. and I still am the way I. do it now I- deficit fund the show so like my ticket sales create the venue meaning I I, get the stage I get the I hire everyone and so that fails all my shoulders. But if it succeeds, it's all my shoulders. Now promoters have realized this can't succeed. So they are setting up setting up venues like outside the Rose Bowl Brian Volk Weiss. Figured out like I think he did a few specials and then he had it set up and he was like well, now we can make money out of Comedy Club Basically, I? Know that there's going. No, there's Guy Long. Beach. Guy. In Irvine, there's a guy in Nashville is doing them and so if you can get out there and do a run them I, you'll love it. You really will love it and it's And people are so I really think because they've been in their house they're very. they're very receptive to it. But absolutely and I saw you chose go ahead. Sorry. No, no say. I was just GonNa say that I just love the when it comes to this art, it just shows you like. How much fun it is to adapt and the role with the punches as opposed to stay stagnant and stay like well, I'm not gonNA do anything until it's back to normal and like I which I felt that way for a few weights. But now I've been really digging in thing that I've been doing a lot twitch streams where and not just like you know I'm sure you're aware like the video game streaming and things like that which I do will fans in France and I started doing his thing on Friday nights. We'll. We'll watch stand up together like I played my special gigglefish because it's on youtube right now for free for anyone who's not much special, and then this week we're going to why some brody and some Maria and some another old set of mine and I just kind of break it down and talk about what I usually especially when it was myself I go. This is what I liked about. My say this is where I fucked up. This is what I do differently now and it's been a really fun way to just Kinda find any new avenue still be creative and still be connected to comedy. I think that's Like seven it's what I love about this business is that is is that you can do your can pivot and do your own thing and come up with your own ideas. You Know Doug Benson is is a really interesting guy in that he started doing this for twenty shows I upset this child and so I'm not hiding anything I do I used to call in sick to work? Shows where I would go in do radio from eight am til ten drink on air tell everyone not to go to work go to the club and eleven and the show started eleven thirty and everyone will call work i. tell everyone on air don't go to work 'cause sick. If you have a business I'll give away I'll give you away a tickets to your whole company shut down for. The day come drinking with me and it was a I mean they sold out. So quickly they say would sell out in literally minutes the second night announce them in whatever city and I do on Cinco de Mayo or like March of seventy like say Patty's Day. They would sell out instantaneously and I have said this a number of times but I got that idea by watching Doug. Benson say I'll do a four twenty show you go into a city heat to a four twenty show and he'd be sold out at four twenty and you'd be working your ass off to sell tickets for your seven ten o'clock and you and you know what it was is that in the clubs loved it because there was extra business that they never countered on and I looked at that. He does he shows it doesn't have to be the he was out of the box thinker way ahead of its time. Yeah. The way he looked at the business was different and I don't know if that's the marijuana or just Dunn's brain but I shifted went I bet, I, bet I could figure out something like that and so I've been very Been, very, liberal with watching comics and and and seeing the way people work different things and saying like. When it comes to business not stand up when it comes to business, you know Joe Rogan to this day I will I will be forever grateful for that man you'll never hear me talk shit about him because he was the guy that look me in the eyes said, start a podcast. I remember going like I'm good on yours and he's like, yeah but that's my podcast. Do Yours make sure you have one every single day like you put out one is much I remember him telling me double down your podcast do another podcast because he's like and that's a business model that I remember him saying you gotTa have video to yours put video don't just have audio I'm double he's always been very open and honest with how his business works I love that. Too One cave is is no longer on spotify and because you watch Joe, you watch his business model and he was like, no, you want my shit, you want my catalog GonNa buy it from me and I'm not saying we're going to sell them spotify. We're not gonNA back on spotify. All I know right now is that it's better to have everything in my house in my pocket, and so I think we always can borrow liberally from each other in the business and the way to do business ticket prices or or or you know I watched the way the before I went to theaters I watched the way the business works who went. To theaters early, how they were adding shows what their ticket prices were when they made the leap, what was their first? They did everyone does the Wilbur I if you can sell the Wilbur out at twenty dollars a ticket then that next year, you'll be selling theaters out you can be selling theater for thirty five dollars ticket. I. Guess that I watched it, you gotta be adding shows you gotTa have a thirty five dollar ticket in clubs. NBA adding shows on Thursday and Saturday if you want to jump to theaters that your tickets gotta be undeniable and so these are all things I just watch the business I watched people like, Angela Johnson Joe. Joe Coyne. Fluffy fucking add. Add add six shows to his weekend to don't added show every fucking show we. Come back the next week and so at the same thing and you're like Ecorse, he's doing the staples center you know. Yeah. I love that I love wound people are open about business and I try you know my limited knowledge and experience I always try to be open to my friends and because I think that's one of the things that there's always been used against us right to like business deals and how much this and no negotiating. You're asking price whether it's stage or own you know and I that's something that I always appreciate when people are open about the business and they look at this as a business. So many people get. So wrapped up in still going, oh, I gotta have the best set. I gotTA. Do this gotta do that I got to be the best in the world and? That's a fun way to act, and that's a fun challenge for yourself but I long ago again, a big fan pro wrestling I was like, I'm not going to be marked for this business. I don't care. There's so many opinions I. Think I'm good at what I do but you know if someone never says, I'm the best and never says I'm their favorite who cares what happens is that I want to become the best at getting my material across my viewpoint across and reached the Peop- most people I can agree with me and then have them follow me for the rest of my life. So I can build my own career that does not rely on whether NBC, Fox or CBS. At is I'M GONNA pay how how are you time? Do you need to get out here? Saying Oh man I'm we got all day. Okay I WANNA pivot I. Want to talk a little bit I WanNa talk first about your Conan appearance where they talked about editing one of your jokes because the Emerald it was a great joke and you're very generous I. Think I would be I think all of us would be very angry when they changed the wording of. Our job at a they edit our joke many Conan was very like I. Love Conan I think Conan's the best is the sweetest guy in the fucking world and he was very like he was very like is very cool. It was a very cool moment on television to watch the to you talk through how the industry works, how they edited you, and then have you kind of not tell the whole joke but tell a little bit of that joker, finish it up. and kind of like the way him and I was really I was really like prowse not the right word but like you weren't. You were you were stern your opinions but you you were the same that you said you were. You were very like, let's grow you know. About that a little bit oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was just a joke that I had done years ago about when I crossed the street to go get my son pizza at Papa Murphy's and Salem Oregon I was stuck in the middle of a cross work and someone yelled at me used the crosswalk nigger and then I turned it around to be this joke about how they were looking out for me and that they were a car I didn't hear the rest of it and they were saying used a crosswalk nigger. I'm worried about your safety and it was to me a joke that showcase a lot of my comedic style, a lot of what I try to do in. The world, which is taken negative and turn it around and show you the positive of the the then several joke my Linda joke or whatever type of jokes I do and so when I went on there, my first time on TV, of course, I tried to get the joke layered and get it passed but I wasn't wasn't as if I was GONNA go oh, they won't let me say nigger on TV they don't get it. They don't get that. It's not a racist joke I'm not GonNa you know I don't even want to perform for Conan now like that doesn't make any sense I understand his business and I, mean it's just any curse words sometimes, you have trouble getting across And until you Cohen and not the first, not the last time that's happened to me I've had full sets I had a set that I deeply love that meant the world to me because I've got to perform on the stage at the Apollo in New York City and a standing ovation and I got and I'm just thinking in my head I grew up watching this show my mom. Loves this show I'm thinking about all the people on stage, not just comedians but like Mary J. Blige, they can about James Brown I'm thinking about Billie holiday they going to bow to fucking legends and that I got a standing ovation in the same room they were in. But guess what I said a Pussy Joe Steve Harvey didn't like it. So they cut my whole fucking set so. And it bothered me and then I tried to get a copy of it. I was like an least I show this to my mom can I have her see this shore that I rubbed the stump and all that and of course they were like we don't have it. We can't find it for you in but now I just lived in my head like I. Know I know I gotTa Sanitation Paulo Dr. Sucks. So. Bad. Was it. I'M GONNA take his job take take all apparently few all of them. They'RE GONNA be mine very shortly. He's he almost got the called out in his canceled culture for some memos sent out I. Guess where he told everyone don't make contact with me I'm well, I'm well aware them emily's. You can't be talk negative about Steve Harvey in our house my wife obsessed with him. You like who you lag. You love who you want. We have Bernie Mac household over here. Oh, we'RE BERNIE MAC to, but my wife because of the Kings of comedy my wife's Bernie Mac Steve Harvey Cedric de l like my wife's Amoah a bit was when I met her she goes I gotTa play you my favorite comedy and I went what is it? She put in Put in the kings of comedy and I went interesting I was like. I did not see that come in that. Who I'm sorry. I didn't hear the second one America's funniest home videos. I'm glad I asked. That's a range. That's does yeah you gotTa keep that woman. That type. Let's talk wrestling for a SEC because I've been. You know it's interesting Tom Seventy said. And I think everyone just thought I'd be party aligned I'm not a wrestling I at all minister to means I think no, one would ever call me wrestling guy, but it wasn't until then that I realized like what an affinity I have just based on my childhood grownup of Florida for wrestling, dusty Rhodes one is I started doing promos for clubs mice. I remember modeling them after Dusty Rhodes like just wanting to not stop talking keep stop talking like just give me a minute talk and then I'm GonNa be here But Dusty Rhodes was like my Go-to Guy and I did an end hulk. Hogan I I did a promo with Hulk Hogan probably gone maybe like six years ago near Hogan were doing a show together and I did a promo to sell tickets and it was with with holck and I didn't realize how much I borrowed from professional wrestling until I realized Oh hoax got the same five phrases that are ready to roll at any listen. Let me tell you something do Teddy Tommy, I'm gonNA come in and. Run. and. I was like oh Abe everybody was up you boy Chrysler the machine I just want let like I remember I remember it's so funny because I realized I for me I, didn't I. It was always in the moment. So like I get a big side and I'd be like, Oh, we got Promo Gig I'm the one. Australia. Here we go. So I, set up a camera outside down at fall off gratified I'd kill it I go Australia, issue, Barbara Christ the machine, but it's old school promo. Straight promos that they. That's what I was doing what my things I I take so much from pro wrestling not just my like if you watch my special gigglefish, there's a lot there I'm wearing a ric flair robe ric flair is in my special. There's a lot of it there but just in the way I do my business and the way I do handle comedy You actually mentioned in the controlling your narrative like I would go out and do my, and sometimes my rooms are half full in less than half full but I would always promote it like we were having the best fucking time because you I was and I knew like you said, the only people who knew I was lying were the people who weren't there and it always. was start showing me. It's like, okay. Well, Thursday was half full Friday with fuller Friday. Late, it was even fuller Saturday we sold out. So his show in me that is more I get the world out the more that people see what I'm doing the I got a good product. So I might as well just continue to push in promoted and that's why I take a laugh from wrestling is just I. Decide What we are in if I don't say that what I'm doing, it's fucking awesome. No one else is going to believe it's working on some just as in the same like just being a mark for myself not getting caught up in like, oh, five netflix specials he's like no I just I want a bunch of fucking money. With everything going on right now, a lot of people are asking if it's even possible to buy live insurance at all the answer is, yes. It's still easy to shop for Life Insurance Right now, and if you have loved ones depending on your income, you probably should right now you can save fifteen hundred dollars or more a year by using policy genius Dot Com to compare license life insurance policies. 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Beer within everyone's reach remember celebrate responsibly Miller brewing company Milwaukee Wisconsin. Is Funny How much we borrow I remember Bobby Kelly saying something about we were talking about helping people over as podcast I mean Joe Rogan definitely. Put Me over you know. he put Tommy over he put joey over he put harvey over and it's it's such a an an an it for people that don't know wrestling. That's like the when you put someone over his up, mean you're going over the top rope for them or something or read means that that usually means that they won that they beat you are oftentimes, it means that if you put someone over, maybe you beat them but through the roof mash, do them looking like they might beat you do made them a bigger star. Bed. You know does he rose made a lot of people like if you didn't know who this wrestler was before they got in a fight with dusty Rhodes after they fought us rose they were a household name and that's put someone over and that's all fine that you say that because anytime I I come home from an interview that I really like and I was like in my fiancee last me how I was like, Oh Kelly Clarkson. She put me over put me away like our comeback into and they didn't WanNa, put me over they they wanted to compete they wanted to fight with me. You know they wanted to prove that they were finding instead of. And that's you know the great host things like at midnight and he's like I'm doing a new show on qube called nights one where we're I'm trying to put a bunch of people over. Twenty four is basically a spiritual successor at midnight and I'm the host and I wanted to do that because at midnight put me over got a lot of people interested in me and so I was like, I. Would Love to do that for my friends I love especially when it's peoples who's voices I really love and people's whose material isn't as well known I love getting them more more fans and getting them over. Yeah. Get putting people over. It's like one of the coolest things and. But it's interesting. How how closely we do borrow from wrestling because it is ultimately. The same business in that in that And and it is where you can get lost. It's even get lost if you're to married to close to the person on stage like myself I think I am probably I feel like I'm a von Erich you know like I'm. Am Who I am on stage and out of the ring and it it may not end well. That's a great wrestling joke you for real for real. Legit, wrestlemania's kid like like the jet and I grew up in Florida and Tampa. So Tampa know appalling was their from their live down there. cogan still run into Ho. Okay. Number Times down in Tampa and macho man everyone was down in Tampa at times a week. We I got I was lucky enough to see us to address when I was a kid at the Tampa armory and And a great show, you seem dark side of the Ring Oh yeah. I love it I I get copies of it before it comes out that's how in the game. I'm not I'm not that deep when Tom Seventy said I laughed and I saw the outrage that came out of. Like I saw you, I couldn't tell you were fake or real mad both. I was like I'm real mad but also faked. Grill mad because I was like. Exactly what he's doing and I'm mad that it's working. And then I was fake mad because I was like you know it's fun and silly and I like Tom and it's fun. If anyone's going to go against wrestling I'm automatically a great foil because I do truly love it. Love it. Since I was five years old I, watch it every week. Still you know and I think one thing you said that I I don't want to get away from was that. We do have the same job we're working with a wrestler comedian, even a musician. We're working to get a pop from the audience and that's it. That's we're all doing the same thing and a lot of ways the same job because either you get it and you understand why you would start at open mics and you start off in the basement. Shows are these dingy as rain's getting Your Bell Rung for Twenty Five dollars or being at open mic in front of four people for two dollars or whatever the fuck or drink ticket you know and but you can't teach it the people who will never get it. But those who do understand how deep and understand how beautiful all these art forms are. Girl fucked Thompson and. That'll just be the promo for this absurd. He it is interesting because I tom. Tom. Is such a he'll. In that moment it's it's by the way what what's so fascinating to me was that. That whole thing was straight up out of wrestling textbook. Like it was a work and it was like an it worked and it fucking. He was baby face. He'll, and he came out of fucking nowhere and seventy said and then. And I want to say like it it's crazy because it introduced him to a ton wrestling fans who then fucking followed him, and then like actually have fucking love this. Guy. Yup. An attorney wrestlers because you know rest like especially when like what some came after him for real and Tom just went right back at him. Give you want you can come get this smoke and then all of a sudden it was like, alright respect this guy and you're like, fuck like it's interesting the way 'cause. But. But I wanted I just WanNa talk about wrestling. Well, how did you? How did you get into wrestling like we're how did you? What was your mic and minds very direct? Yeah. We were sitting on the top of the Dugout it Florida's at at four sales and drew McCall explained the. Rick flair Rick flair Rick Flair Maybe was rick it was at the Tampa Sun Dome but it was Rick Flair match. He explained the Massey recounted the match to us and I was so engulfed in this math with. Ric flair and Kerry von Erich. But I don't think it was. I. Don't think Carreon. Eric. Would arrested with Tampa but he explained the mass to us and we were so engulfed in it that I was like I gotTa Watch this shit and so what we got, we could get on Saturday nights you can get the Tampa Tampa wrestling, which was like Mike Graham's my Graham was the pre much like my grand all we went to school with kids. So so we knew the grams were they were the gossips to us but as or you could get Texas. Wrestling. which was the bond Eric's yet Texas wrestling was always just more interesting to me. It was a little bigger a little more out here yet Tampa single darker a little more dingy but you could see it live and that one conversation I was fascinated for you know whatever length it L- it didn't last super super long but it was it was it was not I was I say respect for it but I don't WanNa over glad WANNA make it sound like I'm a huge wrestling ban, but it was like a whole wall to action figures like I do not. Definitely, not looking for I don't have anything but. I'll tell you mine. Yeah it started in Chicago. Illinois is mostly because I grew up in like a house of old ladies. Mum was raised. My Mom's a single parent. We lived with my aunt who also had a daughter and I was with my sister. So it was four women in me, and so a lot of my time spent playing pretty pretty princess or braid in people's hair when they asked me to or giving them. When they came home from work and what would save me from that then my uncle would take me to the Rosemont Horizon and Chicago and would take me to WWF house matches. In the first one I ever saw the main event was a hogan versus earthquake in a stretcher match and I fell in love this guy in the red and yellow coming out just fully energy talking about saying prayers and taking your vitamins and I just fell for it and I was all in and I've been all in. That time period when I was like Oh women don't seem to like this. So I'M GONNA say I don't watch it anymore and I'm going to try to get some sex that was like fifteen, sixteen seventeen and then I was like, oh, it's still not working. So I might as well go back and watch wrestling because now they're showing boobs. So I get the best of both worlds and and so I fell back in but falling in and out awhile. But really what got me back into it was independent scene here in Los Angeles going to two shows in Reseda go into new Japan shows and I fell in love with it again and it reminded me a lot of comedy and a lot of of any community where I started learning and meeting people and watching wrestlers go from these dingy halls getting. WWe contracts and it made you feel good for them and it reminded me a lot of like watching a standup going from open mic into featuring a headline into doing theaters and you're like man I'm I like this person I'm proud of this person is still fill that. I watched this one company I love game changer wrestling, and I really appreciate them because they were like one of the first companies they took a little. Break during cove during the visual lockdown, and then they were on the first companies. I saw doing these outdoor shows sanitizing their robes doing everything right, and then I would go and I see these videos of the clubs and seeing do Hughley or hearing about you know callen and Sharp, and I was like, fuck like how is this outdoor wrestling barbed-wire intact show taking care of his people than a lot of my industry you Know. Like I. I, have a lot of respect I think if you ever get a chance checkout game changer wrestling, they do a lot of great stuff and you know I just met a fan of wrestling for life I will continue to be even though there's parts of it that I hate hate some of the racist stuff some of the homophobic stuff, some of the sexist stuff but overall I love wrestling show. What's Coming you're so lucky to see WWF back in the back in the day live like some great though I've saw ricky steamboat, ric flair match I. saw like one of their last. Spring San it was late. It was in the nineties like ninety two. But I got to see one of those famous rick flair Ricky steamboat matches. I got to do commentary for Jerry the King Lawler match. Really Yeah. How come you've never tethered up with the WWE. Who say that I'm not? As they're working on a couple of days because I feel like I feel like you know one of the coolest things is I I was a he's he's such a right now that I'm comfortable saying this but and I'm saying this as a joke obviously. But I was such a fan of Sam Roberts when he was when he was an internal no in a like I was actually. Him Walking in the room really like pumped me up that I was I will say this and I think you better believe it. I was the first Sam Roberts fan like wanting him to take off but to see him growing worked. So closely with the WWE and be tethered to like a passion of his net is legit passionate about it's so fucking awesome to know that the business. That way it gets you excited to know, hey, you just like Rogan was when he in the early days of Eh May to then go this is where Rogan's today which I mean. Honestly, he is the voice of you have seen at the moment and it is passion and to see someone connected to their passion when comedy is true passion but you also got that I think is just so fucking bad ass and such a such an example of where we can go. Yes. I one, hundred percent agree with you I I love that when it happens I think is amazing I think I do. That in my podcast, I tell people hey, don't chase the money, chase your passion and and and find a way to make your passion profitable. You don't. You know you don't WanNa be out there starving if you're out there doing shit, you don't like you burn out very quickly. So you it's best to change your passengers people who are yeah. I would love any. If I could work with wrestling love to make a comedy movie about wrestling I'm the one of the reasons why getting more into twitch I love video games, my whole life, and so I'm trying to make my passions my my job. So, whatever I love and the comedy wrestling video games getting better self help I'm trying to make that part of my job and part of what? I do. It's really interesting it's it's You into didn't you? Did you correct me if I'm wrong but did you go to wrestling school? Yeah three months Antena brothers. Yes and that's where you started losing all your weight. Great. Now, I'd already lost a bunch of way early. In better shape than I am better shape from doing the wrestling Fisher and just been doing a lot of weight lifting and things like that I'm getting real close to be my personal bests cited about that but resin school definitely helped it was the first time. I've done anything sports like I'd never in high school football wrestling basketball did any of that and so this was the first time I was on a team that had partners that go up and shake everybody's hand and I did it for three months and I Learned a lot about my body. I learned that I could do three hundred squats at one time. But then the next day was not going to be fun and I learned that I'm not going to be a wrestler that you know that is because they started talking about like, Hey, if you're really serious about this, you might think about getting a part-time job so you can help us break down the ring and you can go out and travel with US learn the ropes and I was like Oh shit, I, did this already. Has Money as funk. Bunny when whenever like. It's fucking awesome I. Remember one time I got off for the job. offered a job playing video games is when I have money, I had money at the time and. Before I lost all my money and I remember them going yeah. You just to be here at like six o'clock in the morning and. I was like, Oh, I can make six, and then that if you want, you got to be here and I was like, Oh, I, guess I don't want it that bad never mind. And the goes we'll to play video games. You're getting two hundred bucks for the day and I was like, yeah, I don't really care about it. I'm sorry buddy and he was like no one says no to this sounds like well, you're here now for the first time then. Yeah No, I love that man you gotTa. Know. Yeah I know who you are. I'm hoping I'm hoping I'm doing something from month in a place where a bunch of wrestlers are and I'm hoping I can find a workout partner where we go to the gym lift weights like I'm hoping I can find someone like that where I'm going to reach out 'cause I am I wanted to be a pro wrestler because I I envy those like like I was watching Who was just on? Who is just on Dr Tired of the rain who died in his hotel room unexpectedly had a stroke or a passed away hotel. he was friends with Eddie Guerrero. Is. Best friend Oh no way way no I think you're mixing things up. Are you talking about crispin? Wa. No no no no, that's not the thing. No no no. You're right to grow No. Guy The past week hotel room and he was just Fuck. Anyway I would. I was hearing them tell stories of getting up in the morning working now, and it was like it reminded me a college like having a workout partner. Don't have a workout partner and I was like all of this I might reach out to like. Features do that. That's what I do. As be my workout partner Nina. Shane. Tour go to go to planet fitness. He jumps ropes and I on the treadmill. I'm talking squats. I'm talking. Jeff Bitch. You I want Dunkin the heads. No I do like that to a man again real. That's one of the things I didn't know. But my big health changes is that I ended up really liking lifting weights and working out because, and a lot of it was like my whole childhood had to be pretty adult. You know my mom was an abusive relationship very young. She's also single parent I was the head of the household pretty much the man. Of the household like eight in. So I was always working in about my sister and worried about this or that, and always focused on other people and working out lifting weights was one of the first time I go. This is for me. This is all about me I don't pick up the phone and don't do anything. It's just me my trainer or just me by myself and it's just something I do for. Me and it really makes me feel like a teenager they come Joe Sleigh put on some fucking hardcore rap or some fucking heavy rock and I just fucking lifted out and I really love it i. think that's one of the things I did not know when I was a young comedian when I thought I was like, Oh, I'm just going to be fat and I'm just going to wear hoodies and I eat. philly cheese steaks to in the morning. I didn't realize that. No I fucking love getting up at seven in working out and getting a good sweat and then coming here and being like, Oh, I, got an audition and then I get the smoke weed and just chill out is fucking do we have you any? Have you done any additions over resume? Yeah. Then if you booked a couple and then I turned him down I might be a great audition or on Zoom. Yeah Day one day I just wanted to know if I book that one by one a day and then a couple self tapes. And one other zoom when they're not fun. But I kinda like because I'll just have addressed up top and Pajama Bottoms. That's great. Man I'm so happy for you. I'm so I'm so happy that you that you're doing that because the last time we hung out was when we did the podcast here and I remember being very adamant going you gotTa start a podcast. Yeah. No you very much what the one that people than that my. So I was like I'm use your producer I really very much. Appreciate it because it's it's really been not just like I said a home for me. It's not very much profitable yet but. It definitely was helpful for selling tickets on the road and it's helped me build a community and I've gotten a lot of my favorite compliments in my whole career of come from the podcast. 'cause people saying like you know Oh you're so funny I like this bit I. Like this joke is awesome. But when people are like, you got me through some bad times or I'm gonNA therapy now or I had one lady sent a email that from listening to my podcast with Wendy comments she was like I dumped my boyfriend after listened to that episode and I was like that's The best compliment I ever heard that we help make your life actually better. I wish that my podcast Get Fatter from with. Just like man I just started drinking again you lot. What am I? Glad. It is interesting. The emails you get from podcast where like I've been very open with anxiety and I just talked about losing our dog. On, the podcast here that it was a really really heartbreaking thing but the connectivity of podcast especially in a time where we're at where people feel very alone. It's so important you know and it's an and I think it's such a cool I don't look at it. I. Don't look at it as. As. Content per se I don't look at it as an interview even don't look at it as a show I. Look at it as an extension of social media of like a way of talking to people and just an having people on that. Like it's you know one of the I think what happens a lot in our businesses people see a comics in different camps like maybe myself in you and then go oh, they don't. They don't like each other because M and tom we're talking about wrestling and I go oh no no I'm allowed to be grown up to be whatever I can say whatever the fuck I want like I have no problem with Ron Ron fucking super talented. He's you made me laugh so many fucking times and and if it wasn't for what Tom said about wrestling probably wouldn't have just started watching dark side of the ring which I've been loving fucking love that show. So Green really really great. And? And And it's and it's been really cool and I will say I got a credit. Halston. 'cause he's been silent this entire episode but me and you working with the same producer has never caused a hiccup at all and I gotta give credit to Halston in that he had. He handled that like such a grownup in wanting to where he really genuinely you worked with me because he had to he wanted to work with you. With you. And and he and my hat is off to them because we were can't we run him ragging over here and and and it's not once have. We ever had one hiccup where I I've never once heard him say, Hey, I can't do that on with Ron ever fucking ever and I've heard I've heard the rivers a couple times. because. He knows where his bread is buttered but overall exactly I mean Austin even though he's fucking listening right now he's amazing producer he he definitely very just one of the most professional people and he makes my podcast look and sound way better than I would do so Yeah. No, he's he's been wonderful but I have heard no, I can't do that Bernie's me. I'm a little bit by the way. I'm the I'm the problematic. Ellen DeGeneres Steve Harvey Guy like all thing is they alternate? You still here? Are you listening always listening? Allston can say I am okay between the two of us. Halston who's more difficult to work with me or? Well. That's quite a loaded question. You're not difficult because you're right across the street and That's very easy. You're very easy to get to. Actually talking about Eduardo Guerrero no I wish I could remember who died in a hotel room. it was one of the he he did not allowed because I remember most of that series and I don't know what you're talking about him. No they went over Owen Hart and him Diane. From the fall. They went over Jimmy superfly SNUKA and him murdering that lady. Day. Win over see now I'm forgetting. See. Either I thought the new Jack Won The new Jack One was released on either I didn't see. Did you see the one about the U. W. F. where the guy was was found? He died covered in cocaine and? You. Of course, you thrown out. Yes. I connected so much with that guy because watch that right when I set up this old drive in movie theater tour and I go I'm fucking setting up a company, a business that has no like I am the same fucking guy. I'm selling it on my own dreams. I had to call my agent and be like here's the deal I'm doing trying to movie theaters get offers he's like it's not A. Thing, it's not going to happen and I was like yours pictured picture at an account temps on drone shot the right just did thrown shot sunsetting cars everywhere. They'd screen seen my body on the screen, right? It's Americana Doug Tom Petty fucking Rick Springfield like this is the and he was like this. You're overselling it like it's not going to happen, and then he called back like I got you an offer. The guarantee is dot dot dot. I was like wait the was thinking. Yeah. No I also took stuff from that when he was like Oh take Biz McMahon I'm Gonna I'm GonNa take McMahon down McMahon doesn't even know who you are and I was like Oh that's probably me and my beef with Steve Harvey thinkin `bout. I do love. It's one of the things I love talked to. Talk to someone the other day and I just love people to just. Even, even if they're a love reckless talk that's Chapelle Line I love to talk shit talk dude is I mean it's when I first started doing Rogan's podcast I just went up and trust everyone I was like this is why I don't like this guy. I. Like that Guy This guy did that this guy did not and I think everyone's like burke a real it's like. A. fucking. fucking fucking. Some guys have made a career out of it. I was about to say someone's name I was like, let's just keep his name out of our mouth. Guy But like there are guys who made a fucking legit living out of of. A trashing people. But the one thing I think that's interesting is that you you don't mind speaking your mind about people no no I try to keep it. Classy Bowie always tried to be honest I will tell you how I feel and and if you were here at my house, I might tell you a little bit more you know but I like to be classy but I definitely don't like the shy away from what I feel like. I why would I have this fucking job? I'm a self made person. Pays my fucking bills but me so why would I in any moment shy away from talking about what I feel in my wrong sometimes sure. Maybe it wasn't Steve Harvey's call maybe it was and producers call but I, remember what it felt like to me so. If you Steve. Harvey on your podcast, you have them. I would I would ask them about that and I'm sure he would not recall then I'd ask him a lot about monique. Oh Shit I love Monique Monique out here telling the truth. It's interesting. Is it? Well, it's interesting because there's two sides of that is that you can't deny that what Netflix game plan is is to draw in new people they want new people to subscribe so unless you're going to bring new people they then that's what warrants the money for Seinfeld Chris Rock Dave. Spell Daesh Pell's. Specials our must see like, yeah, people by Netflix's for it, and I can see that maybe monique wouldn't bring in as much but I'll tell you who whose I do get behind his Wanda is like one is offer I can see when she I was like. I believe she deserves more and I believe she will bring in I. believe she may not bring in as many but she will has been on. So many network television shows that have been successful. She's such a a pillar in our community comedy. Wise. That I would I would argue wanted deserves way more you know I love Monique stand up I fucking. Love Moaning standup but I do I do understand that monique stand up is different than WANNA stand up agree I agree I will look at it less from stand up material wise because I feel like if we looked at it that way a lot of these specials don't exist right like a lot of these specials don't exist because they were ready they exist because they were looking for someone to pop numbers. But if you look at things or you can say or you could also say fill a slot. Phillips Lot. Absolutely absolutely absolutely but I would say if you look just look at The resume look at what she did. Look at all the things she -CCOMPLISH, Yup look at the Emmy Look at the Oscar look at all those things and then go. Do you do There's a lot of comedians getting bigger offers whose resume don't stack up to that and you might say that they won't draw a number but then I, think you're discrediting how much black women fuck with black women and how much people will be drawn that there's a reason why they just now added girlfriends and up and up and all these black shows that we've been begging for them to add because now they're understanding the value of that black dollar and they wanNA keep and to me if you monique would bring in at black dollar heavily and the fact that she is the thing that gets you know. You do you. It's hard now I'm just taking it personally myself because. You look around and you go. Okay. This is the criteria that I'm supposed to have to have a special. Okay I. Did this I did that I did this? I did that did this I did that I did this I do more than that, and then they still go. Maybe you do half hour and then you go. Well, what's the? What's the criteria was the goal? What am I suppose what can I change about myself? That will make you other than the fact that you oh, you already got that slot feel and I just never I love standup I love specials they're all special to me. They're all wonderful the me and when people are watching bad stand up or bad specials because. Bay, are now the arbiter of what they considered up to be, and then they are given a disservice because they're not shown great work. It bothers me. Me I take that personal and that's on me. That is on me no no. Not, I'll heavy the burden with you. Is that it was on it was on me too. I got really upset I was when I When I did my before I special it Netflix's I wasn't getting specials at Netflix either I wasn't and I wanted one and I felt like I was good enough to have one but that was not the situation and then and And and I had a few conversations with a fucking very. Couple pivotal dudes in my life by I I I know that are in the same place. I'm at not not same place on that by any means but are like I look at his big brother surmise the roughly my age but I look at his big brother, Ganesha and And they. The one thing they said is make yourself undeniable. It yourself. Undeniable I remember Wat, give you both are named. Joe Rogan. and Bill Burr have been like big brothers to me in so many ways and I'm friends with both of them at the same place they are. But like we're peers but I look at them as big brothers and I remember. Buckling down and not getting caught up in the bog of who I shouldn't have specials Erdan who I thought. I was better than I. Remember they offered me a half hour and I turned it down and I said I'm going to pass I I think I deserve an hour I. Think I remember saying I don't mean it disrespectful is I definitely wanted to do and I said insane destruct books I did a special it Netflix Bible but I I said I believe that the art forms an hour and I believe I can do a better our than I can half hour I. I was very specific said in the half hour format I don't think my fans will show. Up I think that it'll be cast as an audience I. Think you're GonNa, light their faces and the material I deliver me taking my shirt off you then asking a bunch of strangers to cosign on what I'm saying I don't want that I want my fans in a room so that they can they already know what I'm going to say if they laugh they laughed because they're like I don't care. He called his kids fucking stupid I. I don't need to be judged yet because I'm an actor in the front row going like Woo I don't know about that. They're women this'll genetic in like fuck off want my fans there and so I I know for a fact. That I sold out a sold out an entire run. An entire two years of clubs beyond ticket sales did a European tour data Australian tour and got my numbers to a place where it was undeniable and when they came back to me and they said we like doing our I remember feeling and I. Have said this out loud in the net flicks I might have said this out loud to net Flix in a meeting. I said, I was very proud but I said I got myself here. I said that I didn't look at my managers and agents and say, thank you guys got me here I said I got myself year I earned this I busted my ass and I got to a place where I was undeniable and they had to offer me special and when they did my special performed well, because I not only not like in that trajectory I became undeniable not only to the audience. To myself and I said I'm not dropping this. I did more stand up than I've ever done in my life and I did go special when they said we'd like you to another one. I said Hey I'm not dropping the ball I'm GonNa work even fucking harder you I said to my daughter's legit I'm gone for three months I will see guys down to three months at the. End, three months, I'll meet you in Cleveland were shooting a special I can't wait to see you guys and I fuck disappeared I came back Austin knows that I came back on I come back Monday I'd be home Tuesday leave Wednesday, and for three fucking months because that is my commitment to this business as I. Just I would just say 'cause I know the frustration that it is. But. It's it's it's not it's not it's not not within reach and I think we I think especially for you I think with all these streaming services opening up in all the streaming services raising the tide. Now, the tides raised where when I jumped on on Netflix Netflix's here and there was nothing. And now I think the Thais raising where I think know people will I wouldn't say I don't I would never put you in the monique category like I don't think anyone like goes you need to respect the black dollar and higher ron no, not at all. No I. Think I think I think we know where there are like Red Grant red? Grant. Melanie Camacho. There's a lot of really talented comics where the play up predominantly to black audiences where you go they need their that is representation. Don't just put a guy on because he's black throwing the guy's playing to the black community like throw in. Donna. Donna like. Probably a little bit more crossover but I, don't know. But like I think I think you're on your way I think your path is the. Amanda sales that's who I look at that. The bag uniforms Fox will hurt so heavy and she should times league. Twitter's come after. Thing. Talk in God damn it. It's so funny to see who like Sean was. Two guys named Sean Sean White Dude that Sean White. The guy that is like the calm talcum ex. I duNNo. Yet. Song King. Okay that I know. It's like man he's an activist one day, and then he's attacked on twitter the next day and you're like you like Goddamn Aman it's. Internet is not a place to fucking I don't even WanNa be there. Yeah. True. Want to back though, but I really appreciate the undeniable this something that. Yeah I. I was angry and upset and furlough go while Halston knows he's been through few Iran's but. I then started going the same route late, not just undeniable in my comedy I think comedy is amazing I. Think my hours amazing that thing that's special. GIGGLEFISH put out with one of the best fucking special twenty nineteen honest to God. Think it was one of the top three best in. So Now, it is truly about making my business undeniable making my. Base. Undeniable. Showing what I'm about because this is just this is not new to me. It's not like I don't get. It didn't happen me I remember one of my first knackers when my first college benefits things. Well, my then agents that to me. Well, I guess you're just too white for the black kids and you're to black for the white kids and. I was really hurt by that but then I also took that seriously and I go oh, he's looking at that as a negative because he can't put me in a box. He can't sell me to black colleges. You can't sell me white colleges. But what I am for everyone like I'm for people who love comedy I'm for people who are optimistic I'm for people who aren't optimistic. I do produce a unique product that. You probably haven't seen before and that's amazing and that's wonderful and I will continue to build my audience until I. AM undeniable because I don't plan to quit. You're not going out one thing you're not gonNA do as long as I'm breathe in his outlast me in comedy I will be here are three hundred say out work and I was like, Oh you guys can all out work me at work me your data. All the time. No Betsy people who would just strain standoffs I got voiceover to go do gotta act in class to go do that's one of the things I. Don't want to hold issue with Kevin Hart when he goes, you will not work me I was like, no, you can have all that work I can't catch up with you. I'm not the hardest worker like I I sit back on whatever like. I remember is this is I will we got to wrap this up I could talk to you for hours but I remember I. Remember the first time I went to a communion. I know you've heard this story Halston and and I went to communion and I took million I sat down and I said a prayer and then get back into my dad said he wanted to pray for I was maybe ten years old I said I just thank God for all these God given talents. My Dad goes what talents I said all of my dad's like. Oh God. And I was like, yeah, you cannot work me. I got all these God given talent. I like the put them both together, taking my talents and were working out of bed but I don't like to Overdo it I think a lot of comedians against. So caught up in like. Seven sets of the fucking week and they burn themselves out and I'm like, no, I like bouncing around the same thing. Oh, you're not fucking with me give me an hour. Cool. I got trolls to go work on I. got to go work on to go work on look at Andrew. Andrew Schultz is probably one of the best examples of I will become undeniable. I remember I remember listening I remember hanging out with him a few years ago in New York and hearing people saying I can't I can't help you. I don't WanNa work with you or whatever Andrew saying. Like I'm ready for an influx special and everyone's like nine whatever I'm not going to talk to you, and then you look at Andrew Schultz now. God. Damn. It man that guy's undeniable. Those Sunday posts he puts those rants are better than anything. Any late night talk show host has even remotely up their sleeve. They are so fucking. They're all well over a million views. Day of his stand up is his crowd work shows are fucking insightful that they're smart. They're fucking. Their tents they're fucking awesome and that guy and there's a lot of guys taken that look at Mark. Norman Mark Norman just released his own special on Youtube. What is it got like four million views. Now you know Sam Morale Samuel is released his special on Youtube just straight fucking youtube by the way this was a conversation me and Burr were having two years ago when I didn't have an opportunity for netflix special this was the conversation I was having with burn burs like you just want people see it. You just want people at your show. Impatient, to to all things comedy all the time that we need to have our version of pro wrestling and UFC. They have a are you familiar with the fight APP fit? No K. well, it's an APP is one that I watched GW wrestling on and they also they show impact wrestling they show UFC fight they show their whole thing is combat sports and wrestling and. Mike Netflix's, but it's a simple service that you you get access to this, and then you pick and choose and you're like Oh there's an event I like I pay five dollars for ten dollars for and I watched it and I was like we need that for comedy so that people who have lower means can create these mall specials whether it's through something like Chris Taya's production company or something like that where we're making these more these smaller budget specials and then just marketing them directly to fasten going like, Hey, there's a whole network of here specials here that you can watch that aren't you know vetted. And aren't all these things. Those things that I think I, mean I think of comedy business all the time who you're talking right up my brain I am comedy business man I and I used to not be that way I used to think look at Dane Cook and go go why he should just be an artist. He's so funny and then you rent own fun. There's so much fun. It's uses the the other side of your brain and you can be just as creative. You can be just as funny disfiguring figuring out the business aspect of these things I love it I I, truly I love it. Man This has been a fantastic podcast a really appreciate you taking the time to do this. Ronn I. Think. I. Was post was the hoops one toss was the talk about hoops and I didn't. So. What's hoops? Who've a cartoon I'm in? Out on Netflix Stars Jay. Johnson Natasha Zero is in it as well Cleo, king several other people I, play Ron, who is who is also my name and I am assistant basketball coach and the best friend of the main character played by Jay Johnson is very filthy is very dirty is pretty funny i. think they were the ones who booked is interview so I probably should mention it. Well, all I care about in cartoons is everyone of colors playing person of color ones acting I. Don't WanNa. Make sure anyone's. I. Do know I gotta I gotTA CLEVELAND. Show. Vision for Cleveland after that and I was like, no people just say that I'm like Cleveland I sound like. If they could just. You would have to do Cleveland's voice, right? Yeah. They wanted to sound alike and so I just sent it in with my voice was just like You guys go ahead throw it is one way but I think it's actually more races that you came to a guy that doesn't sound like Cleveland then when you had the white guy because the whole character and again in the beginning was a wag guys impression of a black guy so you should just keep him white as far as I'm concerned. Oh my God to force a black guy to do to like minstrel it up and be and be an impressionable. A white guy thinks a black guy sounds like is worse than just a white guy doing what he thinks the black guy sounds like, oh, I had a long conversation with my manager after that audition. Talk their dead there's no Cleveland you're not going to get a black guy that goes. Hey you're seen like you ever seen uncle Ben's rice. What do you think he'd sound like like I'm not doing it. Yeah that's the I was reading these things I don't I don't think I want this job not not no disrespect to the Family Guy People's gray show. My son loves that shows one of his favorite shows but I just know I didn't WanNa play. That role I do understand the idea of making sure more people color are represented in that if you having a black character that it should be played by a black person, but it should be from a black perspective. It doesn't make good lick a difference if you take a black voice in and everyone writing for him as a white man of over forty five. Then McCain fucking sense. I think that's I. think that's important is if you're GONNA have perspective is don't just have them. You know have throughout I. It's so funny. I did a cartoon voiceover and And not even halfway through towards the end. I. Realized that both kids and the woman were played by black people the whether they're black actors. And I was not black, and then I looked at the picture and you couldn't really see color in the characters because it's a fucking cartoon and they look like an they're animated people. There's not I think there were like read I don't even know if they were there were black and I panicked and I went wait hold on. My character black and they're like what and I was like my black dude in this cartoon and they're like we. Were talking about I was like like everyone is a person that. Her collar I was in a room. I was everyone's blocking this in million fogging pretend I'm more one. A person of color like, wow, this is not the bird I ever thought. Everyone's a homeboy and I am no. I said I said. Everyone's black except for me and they're like, is that a problem? Well, no am I supposed to be acting black and they're like, no we just liked the sound of your voice. You be you and I wait to a sound black and they're like wait hold on do they sound black and I was like no I didn't know there were black and they're like just be yourself and I was like Oh my God. and. That's where I was like I. Thought about that I was like that's where woke Miss Becomes Tab exhausting. Does like. I I didn't. I. Didn't even know that the woman my wife. Thanks for you're not in the room with them. You just doing voiceover. I. Didn't know she was black and I didn't know the kids are black. I just thought they were kids and a woman and I was like man, it'd be weird if you're like, no, they need to be white because he's my wife. would be that would be really weird. So I, think, yeah a lot of people again, we talk about day overstep on the very simple issue is not all about like who plays what voice in who believes this voice and I think a lot of that went back from when Harry was talking about a APU and a lot of people just didn't take what he was thinking. They didn't take it personally of how it affected his personal life. He wasn't like Oh. This character is horrible and there was nothing everything ever funny about it he. was just saying you guys weren't aware of how much this affected other people and I think that's what we need to look at and that's why I mean like you know I talk about it on my podcast. I like I stopped taking auditions for like gay characters because I like there's plenty of black gay actors. Why don't you go in and get someone who's actually gay instead of just because I sound like this and I have a list doesn't mean I'm gay go find an actual gay actor and so there is a bit of like. You know they they will whitewash things where they can. So I like looking out for that. But overall, it starts at the top starts at creators starts at showcasing different black stories I'm sick and every fucking audition go to either being a black story of a guy freshly out of jail or some redemption story like there's just black successful people just like there are white successful people were all different ranges in different groups and when I want to tell a story of like you know things I'm pitching about being a young black single dad who loves being a black single data some with autism and they come back and they almost sale sound urban enough or it doesn't sound like this enough it's. Like how do you know I'm black and it's my fucking life at the end of the day with Hollywood it is a business so you're going to want to get star. It's not like there's some new out action movie and they're GonNa, go starring Ron funches. That's just not going to happen I will be like four fifth or sixth lead because that's just how business works I and I'm yeah I, Never WanNa get away like well, you know we better make sure that everything is okay and everyone that was represented in the story is played exactly right because then you're getting away of our, you're getting away a business, but I still think just having an open mind and just not running things. Like clockwork like people do where they just go like well, we got this show and. Oh, we better throw in one person. So many auditions I go to urges all the actors of Color Black, Hispanic Indian, Pakistani whatever my whatever griffin is We're all bear at the same audition fighting for the one part that used to be a white guy that they decided. Well, we got too many white guys. So we better keep this character white Ba, find a black or different color person to play them. Change? No I agree with that I just think that was important. If you want change, you need get the story out so that people can start to understand. I was wrong about that I think that should happen I maybe as opposed to just going I don't know I'm going to edit this out entirely. Too, much business were running. D- I think it's I buy what socks is that you see what sox's sometimes you can't have certain conversations because it triggers people he had tried to get you fired from whatever the fuck you got going on in protest you and you're like him it was it was a conversation. It was meant to be a conversation where we figured things out as opposed to I didn't mean to, and then they'll just pull it out and you're. Like fuck it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I. Haven't had that much podcast but that's one of the reasons why started stopped interacting with twitter so much is because people would always take the second or third interaction you had, and then re tweet that and frame that as your original interaction and that's one reason like, Oh, I'd rather talk long form in my podcast but now you're telling me people will just clip that up. So I look forward to that. His fucking. It's a it's a minefield out there. Right now it is. But it's a lot of fucking shitty people who don't have things going on who who, just you know people try to take down creators and none of us are perfect. Now I've been trying people try to cancel me four or five times over and it's always opposite I do one tweet one day and then anti. Gun Rights, people hate me do another tweet then anti-gun people hate me do one tweet at all the British newspapers fans hate me. At the end of the day, you know what? Fuck mom likes me my big boot. Wife likes me my son likes me. Fuck y'all. Will we should wrap this up now? I've had a blast talking to Iran. You've been talking more than more than enjoyable to have a conversation with obsolete lobby brother I love you to burn and appreciate what you're doing out there Not just you know doing new things and trying a new thing so that we can see it and learn from it. But in particular you take a lot of my friends out on the road like Shane like, Hey, zoos and they always have nothing but the best thing to say for about. You and how you take care of them and I judge L. A. Judge people how they treat my friends and how they treat the people you know financially below them. So I just always uses a good. Do I appreciate you? Hey thank you, God bless stay safe everyone checkout his his streaming titus, go to ron punches, dot com sewing September, what it's gotta be September fifth just go get tickets now I remind you put it in your calendar Gig is now so I can show these numbers take them back to Netflix. And then hoops fourteenth I am King Shark and Harley Quinn which is our own Hbo Max. August I I have a qube show which I'm the host of Nice One ad is how August twenty four. So I got a big fucking month Oh and I'm in a movie co Disney plus it stars Bryan Cranston Angelina Jolie Danny Devito Chaka Khan, and Ron funches is called the one and only Ivan play a robe a rabbit that sits in a fire truck, its own Disney plus August fourteenth check that out because I want more Disney money. God Dan, you are working your workman wrong God bless workers, work brother. You know it loves your family take care. All right. Thank you all. This episode is brought to you by the machine.

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