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SERIAL KILLER: Dellen Millard

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SERIAL KILLER: Dellen Millard

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Get yourself a state farm agent who gets you and knows your specific needs. There's one right in your own neighborhood. Talk to an agent at eight hundred state farm or go to State Farm Dot com today high crime junkies. I'm your host Ashley Flowers. I'm Brett and this week story is about a murder spree that happened in plain sight and went undetected for almost a year. And it's it's also a cautionary tale for the digital age and for anyone who's ever sold something to a stranger on the Internet. This is the story of Dallin Millard On the evening of May six two thousand thirteen Tim. Bozeman put his two year old daughter to bed and began into pace. He's waiting for this guy who's supposed to come by to test drive his truck they plan to meet at seven but by now it was nine o'clock doc. Now he knew they were coming. They called around like seven thirty to say they're on their way from Toronto. But now it's almost dark and like he's like let's just get the show on the road already so while he's waiting for them he's kind of talking to his wife bought the people coming over and he's asking like do you think I should like go with them for the test drive or just like give them the keys. He's let them do it and she's like yeah. Of course you go with them like we want our truck to come back. Don't you don't give a stranger so finally well. After nine o'clock to men arrived for the test drive and it's no wonder they were late because they show up on foot and this is a little unusual usual in general. But you know like they're there to buy a car maybe they didn't have one of their own fine. But what makes this feel. Extra strange was was that Tim and his wife Charlene lived in this. Like Very semi-rural area. That's an hour outside of Toronto. So this isn't a place that you typically like get to on foot but whatever like any kind of worries or just brush off their finally here and the bones were hopeful that their truck was finally going to sell it was costing more than they're willing to pay repairs and upkeep and they really needed the cash so Tim Bozeman smiles at his wife and says he's going to be right back he gets into the truck drives away and the time starts to pass a little more slowly and when an Our passes and Tim still hasn't returned. Charlene begins to really worry like this was just a test drive even if they wanted to take the truck on the highway. It wouldn't take this long. Something isn't right and she knew that he charged his phone that evening when he got home from work so the fact that she was making calls to him and they're rolling straight to voicemail is making her even more concerned like she knew was charged. He should be picking up but yet every single one was going into voicemail so she starts calling around to friends and family but no one has seen or heard from Tim. Her bad feeling begins to grow and she couldn't sit sit around and wait anymore so charlene reports her husband missing to the Hamilton police. By the time the Sun comes up on May seventh. Police were already starting their ground search urge with officers and their canine unit. which just goes to prove that you can file a missing persons report as soon as possible? Yeah absolutely like there's no time limit. I mean that's one of the things we've heard over and over cases people being told by police. You have to wait time. I would hope now. It's two thousand nineteen like everyone knows. That's not a thing but if something happens if someone when you know where to go missing you have to wait no amount of time. So when police assigned to Tim's case start looking into his life they find that by all accounts. Tim had been living a totally normal life. He went to work every day. He came home to his wife and his young daughter. They had built this home in an Castro Ontario. Like he's active in his church in his community like literally. According to every source I read for this story from like books to local media national media. He was not the kind of guy to just up and walk away or disappear disappear so when he did disappear people noticed and like I said they start this search right away. In addition to the ground search police also set to work work on getting the public's help to locate Tim's black dodge ram truck like it's big it's flashy. It's hard to miss. They think this could be the best opportunity for someone to find him him. If we find this truck I and it turns out someone had seen the truck in Brantford in this is about twenty minutes from the Bozeman home and at about ten after ten on the night that Tim went missing. And you know what else they found in Brantford. Is it like to hopeful to want them to find him. Well that would make for a really short episode so no. They didn't find him but they did find his phone now. On the one hand the investigation seemed like it was moving pretty quickly like again like the night of the truck spot the next day. They're searching they find the car they find him. He's we're actually developing but on the other finding the phone without Tim mm-hmm meant that he had likely not disappeared on his own. which again I mean people have been saying all along but like that confirmation? I'm sure people were holding out hope that this was all just a misunderstanding uh-huh but they at least had his phone now and they needed to dive into the records they knew from Tim's wife Charlene that the men who had come for the test drive had contacted him by phone at least twice wants to set up the time and then another to basically alert him that they were GonNa be late so police had this number and maybe that was going to lead them to tim so it was super easy to get the number but when police track the number they also get a name Lucas Bait eight so according to live trial coverage by Adam Carter of the CBC police went to great lengths to find this Lucas Bait person they track down where the phone is purchased and they go get surveillance footage but they weren't able to get the surveillance footage so too much time had passed at that point between when it was purchased and when they were looking for it but they were able to get an address for Lucas beat now he's address was one in a nearby neighborhood of Toronto so not too far away but the address led them to somewhere really unexpected it led them to a highschool highschool a high school that had never heard of Lucas beat so of course the police realized this phone is a burner and I'm sure most of our season junkies know Oh what a burner phone is but it's really basic phone with basic service Nobel's no whistles like you have to register it but you can register it in bogus names bogus Addresses right contractor. Anything really official tied to it. I mean you you could just be anyone. It's basically registered to a ghost and this is what the situation is here and unfortunately even though we have this number it seems like the name we have is fake and it doesn't offer any new information. But here's the thing. It wasn't wasn't a complete dead end when police access the phone call history which they could do. They see several other Toronto area numbers burs listed as outgoing calls so the imaginary Lucas Bait led police straight to the man who would blow this case wide open and the man who was the key to this case was named eager. Now it turns out Tim. Bozeman wasn't the only diet with a dodge Ram for sale eager had one listed on line two and it turns out a few nights. Prior to Tim's disappearance eager had taken can two guys on a test drive and his story sounds just like the one charlene Bozeman told her husband now. Two guys arrived at his house now on foot looking to test drive a truck now. The only difference is that Ebor came back and Tim. Bozeman did not okay but like what's what's the difference like why take him but not eager. Well so there's woman named an broker hurt who wrote this book dark ambition and she also covered this for the Toronto Star. According to everything she wrote. Police said quote that he was a very large individual who could easily have overpowered the suspect. So I think Egos Gore was a much bigger guy and presented like a bigger challenge for them than maybe Tim would have so as police talk to eager about his experience. I mean we have now a living witness of likely. The two guys who took Tim eager tells them that one was a smaller guy. In a baggy sweatshirt with his hood pulled up and the other was a taller man carrying a Satchel and sporting a small tattoo on his wrist. That read ambition so now police were actually getting somewhere aware so this is when they take this information and they go to the public to ask for help. Find a guy who carries a Satchel and has an ambition tattoo. They said so within within hours the phones are ringing and not once but twice to other Ontario policing agencies are the ones that are calling though and they say we know who your guy is so on May eleventh. This is just five days after Tim. Bozeman went on that test drive. Police announced publicly that they've made an arrest out of nowhere. It seems they arrested a man named Dylan Millard. When police originally were brought to him mm-hmm Delon looked like he was the last person you would have picked out to kidnap a guy in steel? His truck there's this article from Robin Levinson King being of the BBC that gives a perfect life and times overview of this guy. He was basically twenty-seven he's the heir to a multimillion dollar aviation business during his grandfather. Yeah and then continued by his father at fourteen dollars a record. He became the youngest Canadian to fly a helicopter and airplane Solo on the same day. His life wasn't perfect though like six months before all of this happened this whole Tim. Bozeman thing went down. Dylan's father had actually died suddenly surprising everyone everyone in the community especially those closest to him now his parents had also divorced. Wendelin is really small and it was exceptionally hard on him but as he got got older and like grew into himself Dell became kind of a party boy with this big social circle he would host friends on the weekends. He even moved people in when they needed needed. A hand and like his social circle included no shortage of young women and it would come out later that was like Kuwait the cazenove like dating eating and sleeping with multiple partners. He also owned multiple properties in Ontario. He had like several luxury cars. He usually bought them in cash and his friends would always estimate that he was worth between ten and twenty million dollars. So why is he ceiling trucks. So that's the thing that doesn't make sense right right like he didn't need to he could've walked onto any car lot anywhere and just bought one in cash and it's his friends say that he used to do and again. That's why when and police were like pointed to him. None of this made sense. Why is this guy kidnapping a guy for a dodge ram truck? When he's got like a lot of luxury cars? He has multiple multiple homes. Like it wasn't fitting. It didn't seem like the profile right right. So the night police finally brought Dylan Millard in was like a scene from a movie according to the CBC BBC police surrounded his car guns drawn and placed him under arrest in his front pocket was three hundred and fifty dollars cash and three black latex gloves when they search his car on his key chain were the keys to. Tim Bows Men's truck now. Police may have a suspect in custody. But they still don't have Tim Bozeman. Tim's family and friends. Even investigators were hopeful but the mood had started to shift. It had been five days since that test drive. No one had heard from Tim if he was is alive somewhere. Like what kind of shape would he even be in at this point now. Police weren't speculating publicly about the outcome but their actions spoke volumes volumes. The case was being led by the Hamilton police homicide squad and when reporters asked if this meant that it was a murder investigation police would only say. It was as a missing persons case with unusual circumstances. The community did all they could to like surround and support the Bozeman. Police would say that in total over seven hundred. Tips came in from the public about Tim's disappearance and many of those tips did help inform the investigation. Now one of those tips led police to the home of Delon Miller's mother whose name was Madeline Burns now when they pull in the driveway of this like well appointed home home they notice one thing immediately a giant vehicle trailer parked in the driveway and when they look inside the locked vehicle trailer which which was registered to. Dylan's family business. They find a dodge Ram pickup truck. The Dodge Ram pickup truck. Tim's pickup truck ironically enough though when they find it it's Sunday may twelve mother's Day and this is when they find it on Dylan's mother's property now inside the truck police find shell-casing gun powder residue and fingerprints belonging to Dylan sprayed with luminol and viewed under a black light. They could see blood evidence and signs of cleanup now again. This is great. We have more evidence however still still no ten. Yeah and we're getting less and less hopeful now because I mean we have tim struck. We have tombstone. Don't have ten. But we have signs of someone shooting shooting a gun and cleanup so the police again not releasing this to the public are more and more concerned. That what they're looking for at this point is a body now. During this time they were also searching other properties owned or associated with the family and Delon himself owned four properties. A house farm land into condos. Police were at the farmland property when they ran into this guy named Chaz main now this guy liked to like bomb around the property on his a t. v. and according to an Brocklehurst reporting chas didn't know or had in fact never met Dylan even though Delen had owned the property operative for several years that he was like tool around on his ATV wet but even though he didn't know him. This guy was valuable to the investigation. He tells police he's that he'd seen some strange stuff on the land. Not Creepy strange just strange strange like heavy equipment equipment including an excavator stuck in the middle of a swamp and what he called a redneck smoker in the woods. So police are like okay. Why don't you show us what you're talking about? So chaz takes them to this clearing in the woods where he'd last seen what he called that rednecks smoker. You're just a day prior and it was a decent description like it certainly looked like basically a giant barbecue but it wasn't it was six feet tall ten feet long connected to a one hundred pound propane tank like this is not the kind of machinery that you see every day or maybe even ever. I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. I've I would. Maybe say that. I've possibly seen something like this at like a butcher. who also does barbecues on the weekends? We literally did like a hog roast years and years and years ago my family did and we had like this metal. Hello container thing. And it was still wasn't even that big like it's massive and so on this massive thing there. Is this like metal tag that reads needs small and large animal cremator -t's a- product southern breeze fabricators. So this isn't just like a barbecue. You this is a cremation device and on the side in red letters was something that it looked like delen had put on. He had named the device. He named it the eliminator now given the size of this machine. Police had the same concerns that you and I just did like like. This isn't made for a barbecue. You could fit in entire person living or dead inside so with a little trepidation. Then they check inside but it was empty however not entirely empty inside. The incinerator. were several very small tooth and bone fragments now unfortunately when they take those to be tested there wasn't even enough there to test for for DNA and even if there was the high temperature in that incinerator basically destroyed everything but even without usable DNA. Once the experts arrived they were able to confirm that the bones were in fact humid not some kind of animal bones so once the police knew that they were dealing dealing with actual human remains. Police called in one of Canada's leading forensic anthropologists Tracy Rogers right away in fact it was she who climbed climbed into the eliminator to sweep out every last bit of bone and ash and she's actually the exact same person who several years prior had led the team of experts. Experts and students to identify remains found Robert Pickton's farm who we talked about like a month or so back so this lady like the professional the lady in the area now now the sum total of what Tracy pulled from the incinerator weighed about like five hundred and three grams or just over one pound and police were certain this was all that remained of Timbo Zeman so the scene inside the truck and the remains within the incinerator told a frightening story of Tins. Last stay alive investigators. Were now sure that he had been murdered that his remains had been destroyed. And that Delon Millard was responsible for all all of it after notifying Tim's wife and family. Police announced that their search for Tim. Bozeman had come to a heartbreaking conclusion and that Delon Millard would be charged with first degree murder on May twenty second two thousand thirteen. Hundreds of people gathered at the Hamilton Church to remember Tim. Bozeman and lay his remains is to rest and throughout all of this the people of Hamilton and throughout the province of Ontario. We're just dumbstruck. Like was this man really killed over a truck by two complete strangers. one of whom again didn't need money at all and the biggest question though is there were two stranger so we've got one of them behind bars. But where's the other guy who is the other guy. At least one of the public's lingering questions was answered later for that very day when police announced that they'd made their second arrest in this case a twenty five year old man they mark Smith he liked delon in Millard would be charged with first degree murder now. Mark couldn't have been more different from his friend who he called Delon. The Felon Mark was a high school dropout. Who Gotten by from the money that he made selling drugs his chosen job got him into a good deal of trouble with the law? This guy was like not an upstanding citizen and in this documentary called the devil had a name produced by the CBC one of the People Interviewed said that mark quote clung onto and looked up to de Lillard and based on everything else that I've read about this guy that's a pretty apt description for their relationship. Being around Elon gave mark access to things he would have otherwise never had money Moseley but there were other like comforts and thrills that like money can't buy that like delen Ellen had access to. He was just one of several hangers on that swirled. Around Ellen Miller life what police learn is that the two had spent the last several years ears stealing vehicles and equipment at random sometimes just to destroy it. It's not like they were even selling this or using it or just the thrill oh it was for the thrill all while flying completely under the radar so that was kind of the question. Police were asking like was Tim's death and unfortunate result of a vehicle. Theft gone wrong. Or was it the culmination of what one friend of the two men called a quote succession of thrills us now at about the same time. The police were arresting mark and charging him with murder. 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The iron iron old irons are boring. Irons take a long time. Pick up connors turbo extreme steam hand-held steamer today all right now back to our show one day police got a call call from a worried set of parents their daughter Laura Babcock had been missing for almost a year and on the surface. Like okay like there's a lot of people missing. What does this have to do with this case? Why are you calling now right well? Their daughters ex-boyfriend whose name was Scott told them that when he heard. Dylan's name on the news news. 'cause obviously this is like a huge case being publicized everywhere. He remembered something important after his ex went missing he had gotten her phone records and and the last eight calls that she ever made were to Delon who she had dated for a couple of weeks and then kind of had like a friends with with benefits thing happening around the time that she went missing when police take a closer. Look at Laura's case. They learned that during the summer of of two thousand twelve twenty-three-year-old Laura Babcock had hit a bit of a rough patch. She was a university of Toronto graduate from like this middle class family but she was working as an escort at the time and using drugs daily she had basically transformed from this rosy cheeked brown haired girl next door to very thin and a very troubled young woman. She'd been fighting with her parents about the rules in their house. which is wide during the summer of two thousand twelve? She was basically couch surfing between friends and escort clients now. Laura had well known and well documented mental health issues as well and they were at an all time aim high during this period in her life because again she was self medicating with drugs. She wasn't seeking any kind of help for your mental health issues now. It's around this time in her life when she's a couch surfing going from friend to friend that her ex-boyfriend Scott now he's the one that initially like made the connection to Dallin. He felt bad for her. He like still really cared for her. You saw that. She was struggling so he had been paying for a hotel room for her and loaned her an Ipad so that she could look for work and housing but they weren't together gather right no they had just stayed in touch and again he was just like very worried about her and he wanted to make sure she had places to exactly he just really cared for her so at this time is when she has this friends with benefits thing happening with the problem is at the time that they have this arrangement enjoyment delen had an actual girlfriend named Christina now Christina and Laura knew each other they ran in the same like Big Circle of Friends Suns Circle that included Dylan and Christina News. The Dylan had dated Laura in the past but in her mind like it was completely over now. The problem was this Christina was kind of like a mean girl and would poke at Lauren even though she thought that the the relationship was over. They weren't together on Laura's birthday Christina. I sent a text message that said happy birthday a year ago today was when I I slept with Dylan so laura like not wanting to take any of her crap shoots back immediately and said quote. That's fine I slept with him a few weeks ago. So you can imagine that Christina was not happy she was done sharing her boyfriend with this other woman and Dell and had to like intervene she goes to Dell and she SUPERPAC. I want this girl gone. And he told his girlfriend girlfriend that he would take care of the situation and he wouldn't let Laura Babcock bother them anymore. The last time anyone recalls seeing Laura was June twenty sixth two thousand twelve and for the people who loved her it was like Laura just vanished into thin air. Did you say data cheated missing for a year by the time it was reported like was this the first time the police were even brought in on the investigation so no. This is at the time that they're like brought back doc into this is about a year later but it wasn't the first time that her parents had called police about their daughter's disappearance in fact she'd been reported missing only after a few days by both her parents parents and Scott back right away but when police looked at her situation at the time in particular her lifestyle of drugs and sex work and and her history of mental illness. Basically kind of chalked it up to like. I don't know maybe it's on her own that she went away like it was just a very low priority and at one point the Babcock's were told that Laura would probably just be backed by Christmas but Christmas of two thousand twelve came and went with no Laura so now that they've been like no brought back into her case it's back at the forefront and might have a connection to someone that they have in custody police are trying to make some kind of connection Chew Doan but all they have a few phone calls and this ominous statement to his girlfriend. But that's not much however these stumble across Ross Aclu in a very unlikely place so shortly after marks arrest police were searching his place looking for evidence to use in a trial to support a connection to the Tim Bozeman case but they actually find something else. Instead in mark's room police discovered not only Laura Babcock's doc Cox ipad but also a Duffel bag with her name and address on it so the evidence is starting to pile up and it was painting a really grim picture about what could have happened to him and to Laura and maybe even others now in in all of their searching. Police never found Laura Babcock's body but once police had enough probable cause and did a little more thorough search of everyone's cell sell records Google search histories all electronic evidence. They knew everything they needed to to know what happened to her. That night in July basically cell tower information showed that Laura in Dallin were together on the night of July third. They together drove to Dillon's house where they spent the night. Then the next next morning July fourth they drove along Lake Ontario. In the direction of Dylan's farm now on the way at some point Laura's phone suddenly suddenly stopped sending and receiving messages but Delon's phone continued on to the farm. Once he gets to the farm he snapped a picture picture. Just outside of the barn of this. You know what I need to show you. Okay I just sent you the picture that he had taken like almost like shortly after he shows up on the farm but no one else it is a blue tarp just like a normal blue tarp but it is rolled rolled up like a carpet. Like there's a body in it. The exact shape of a human body that this dude is taking a picture of. It's like taped around onto is now shortly after he snaps this picture again. He's like leaving this digital trail. After he snaps the picture he sets a reminder for himself in his phone for July seventh and the reminder says quote barn smell check. Oh my God yeah yes. So I I mean it's easily pieced together so delon got himself a few toys around this time to like like. He got a gun that he purchased the day before Lara disappeared. He got the eliminator which arrived just a few days after so there is a very a clear pattern of his planning of his intent. And what actually happened. Even though we might not have any physical evidence anymore almost three three weeks would pass before Dylan and his sidekick mark would burn Laura's body on July twenty third delon tax mark quote. BBQ has as run. It's warm up. It's ready for meat and later that night records show that there was a screen shot of the answer to this question. entites into a search engine what temperature is cremation done at. I mean did Google himself so it's not totally clear your weather. He did the search or not but he whether he did or not. He definitely saved the photo. You know like for reference. I mean I don't know. So while Delon and Mark Mark Burn the body of their one time friend Laura Del and took a series of photos. There's some of mark smiling near this like family business. There's one of mark posing in front of the eliminator and there's also pictures of the interior of the incinerator in flames and just in case ace. This isn't enough incriminating evidence mark. WHO's like a wannabe rapper? I guess was inspired to write these lyrics that very evening that started but it off all skin and bone now that it lay on the same Ashi stone last time I saw her outside the home. And if you go swimming you can find her her phone. Oh my God yes so. Police found those lyrics on the IPAD that Marquette in his bedroom and now he thoughtfully renamed it marks marks ipad. Though it was in fact Laura Babcock's IPAD that he had stolen from her in addition to all of the Electronic Evidence Against Ellen. Police also had had sixty five letters that he'd written from prison to his girlfriend Cristina in the letters which will link to the blog posts for today's episode. Delon tells her that they need to basically get their stories straight about the night that Laura went missing he tells her that basically should save. She gets asked that Laura was at Dillon's house host that night and that she and mark we're using drugs in the basement and she likely overdosed. So Dylan Asks Christina to destroy the letters to protect him but for whatever reason then and luckily she didn't so police are tying things up. They have another case that they're building like a really strong case against both Dylan and mark. Four Tim I'm now for Laura but the investigation into these two monsters wasn't over because police saw something in Dallas background. That stood Out something that they thought was worth taking a second look at this episode was made possible by uncoming coming goods which is a website that has unique fun and beautiful things for you or Tis the season gifts for others. I have a few people in my life I just never know. Oh what to get them. 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That's uncommon goods dot com slash crime junkie to receive five dollars off your first purchase. Right now back to the show. There was a case. Police had investigated and closed six months earlier. It was the death of Wayne. Millard Delon's dad now Wayne had been found in the suburban Toronto home that he shared with his son Dylan on November twenty nine two thousand twelve. He was dead from a single gunshot wound through his left eye. Now police and the medical examiner were called to the scene and their brief investigation ruled the death. A suicide Wayne was lying in bed. There was gun on the floor next to his body open and shut they said but now investigators wondered if maybe it wasn't so open and shut. Maybe they'd made a mistake. Because maybe Wayne Millard had found himself on the wrong end of his adult sons. Killing spree. Delon was after all the one who found his father's body that morning and when questioned at the time he told investigators that he was staying with a friend of his father's death and of course you won't be surprised at at all to know that the friend that he claimed he was staying with was mark. Of course. Now here's the really interesting part. I think at the time of his death. People in Wayne Circle like employees employees and associates were actually told that his sudden death was the result of a brain aneurysm. They had no idea that it was ruled a suicide so there wasn't even even anything for people to be suspicious of his employees and associates. Didn't even realize what had really happened until Delon was charged charged with Laura's murder and then Wayne's murder and that's when the people close to them learned like the truth about what really happened to him and I think if they had known like the real you'll cause of death like maybe his employees could have raised alarm bells a little bit sooner because the story among employees when they actually got talked to was was that Wayne was threatening to cut off his son financially. Like basically they knew that Dylan was spending way too much money not taking any responsibility for the family business snus and like kind of trashing. This family business that his father and grandfather had worked so hard to build up Wayne had basically gotten to the point where he wasn't GonNa sit by anymore and watch. His only son ruined the business that he worked so hard to build so he was about to cut him off again. All of this is going on and nobody really knows that because at the time police were like open shut and then everyone decides to lie about how he died so like the right. People weren't connecting now once investigators reopened this this case. Luckily they did have physical evidence to revisit. Specifically there were these X.. Rays that showed the bullet and its trajectory through the eye and police had kept the gun that assumed weighing used when like the death had happened when it seems like it was a suicide will. Wouldn't you know it. The gun had Delon Alan Millard. DNA on yeah and more than that Dylan had purchased the gun like it was the one that he had bought in the days before Laura Babcock's disappearance disappearance and probably I don't know this for sure but probably the same murder weapon and you know it's so interesting when I look at this specific case because recently I I was talking with a retired state police investigator from another state and he had some really good insight. He said you know back when I was running my squad like I taught every investigator investigator to treat every death scene like a homicide. I like. It doesn't matter what it is like old guy in a nursing home woman found the side of the highway or even a scene. That looks a lot like a suicide. Treat it like a homicide. I because it's so much easier to like back down from a homicide to a suicide than to go the other way around right. So as a part of the reinvestigation the coroner who ruled the death as suicide at the outset admitted that it was the first time he ever seen someone die. Hey by suicide with a gunshot through the eyes so he was new to him I guess but like he said it seemed clear to him at the time fine but he could like see looking back on it that maybe was his inexperienced. Here's the part that like I can't chalk up to inexperience. Apparently even at the time like Nick even though they thought it was probably a suicide. They tested his hands for gunshot residue. There was no gunshot residue on Wayne's body like anywhere of course there wasn't so yeah I guess like I don't know how you rule that a suicide like I'll never figure that part out it doesn't make sense. It's to me so during his initial questioning. When police like originally investigated Wayne's case and decided it was a suicide Delon told police that his father was was lonely? He drank too much he was having problems with the business and like some of that was true. Wayne did have known issue with alcohol but at the time he was in a new relationship relationship it was going. Well they had this spin off aviation business that he spent years building for his sons and was close to opening doors to the customers alike. Yes he might have had some problems with alcohol but like everything else in his life seemed like it was on the upswing right. The morning his dad had killed himself dylan was cool as a cucumber. Speaking to police like on the morning that he supposedly found his dad dead comb collected. I mean I guess. Not so calm that it raised flags but he was like definitely cool. Definitely collectives enough to be notable. Yeah well he has so much so that police didn't really question him because as far as I could find they never tested his hands for any kind of gunshot residue because if they would have they likely would have seen something there in the end Delon and mark were tried an convicted in two separate trials for the murders of Timbo Zeman and Laura Babcock for their crimes. They'll serve two life sentences back to back with no possibility of parole for fifty years for the death of his father. Delon was found guilty and was given a third life sentence with no possibility of parole for twenty five years to be served consecutively. After his other sentences total he'll serve about seventy five years before he's eligible for parole and when that time comes he'll be one hundred and two years old. Okay so there's just like one thing that's kind of still unresolved for me so I feel like we're all reasonably sure that Delon Ellen himself was responsible for the death of his father and for Laura Right. Yeah I'm I'm pretty sure okay but Tim. Bozeman was a complete stranger ranger to both guys like. What was the motive and for that matter like who actually pulled the trigger if they were both convicted? Yeah see that's the thing the evidence it doesn't tell us who pulled the trigger but the crown didn't necessarily have to prove that in court Bay said that those details like who actually held the gun who fired and it didn't matter. It only mattered that Dylan and mark both knew what was happening that night and that they were basically in it together overall the case against both of them World largely circumstantial and tied together with like this digital footprint of texts and calls and web searches and photos like all that stuff that they left behind. It's interesting because at the trial they pretty much admitted to killing Tim Bozeman but each of them were pointing the finger at the other. The majority of the defense's case was is built on exactly this kind of finger pointing Delon said that he was surprised when mark fired the gun from the backseat of the truck. During test drive that basically like mark was high a and he was shooting on accident and mark said he wasn't even in the truck when the gun was fired he was falling behind in. Dylan's SUV like the whole trial is like this back and forth and back and forth finger anger pointing finger pointing but when mark eventually went to trial like these were separate trials. The courtroom also heard from two young men like high school students who had bought drugs eggs from mark. They said that mark actually confessed to them later that summer and according to those kids mark told them that he had killed girl burned her her body and threw her in a lake so to even go back to your thing like hey we think Dell and killed his dad and Laura. I don't even know about that heat. Mark might have had a a bigger role in Laura's death as well but we will never for sure. No which is the truth or what. The full truth is and as for motive people people really struggled with this in the early days of Tim Bozeman investigation. And frankly I'm still struggling with it now like sadly it seems like the motive was simply a truck a truck dylan. Millard could have easily purchased with cash if he wanted to. But if you're looking for a better why and it's hard not to. There really really isn't one to be found here but I would say you know. It's hard to find upside in all of this. I would say like Tim died senselessly but it was his case and the diligence. Everyone who worked it that I think stopped a monster who knows where his succession of thrills would have led eighteen or how many victims he would have taken in his wake If you want to see the pictures from this case those letters we talked talked about if you WanNa see the sources that we used for this episode. You can find all of that on our website. Crime Junkie PODCAST DOT COM and be sure but follow us on Instagram at Crime Junkie potties and and we'll see you next week with a brand new episode uh Crime Junkie is an audio chuck production. So what do you think. Chuck the approve. Thanks to simply safe for being a sponsor of Crime Junkie and making today's episode possible.

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Hour 2: Is Arrowhead cursed?

Izzy and Spain

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Hour 2: Is Arrowhead cursed?

"That's right in Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty I want to give a warning out to chiefs fans who are listening. We are about to play a montage of chiefs playoff disasters from the last twenty five years at Arrowhead stadium. So grab a loved one support dog if nothing else perhaps a teddy bear, you may need it. We're going to talk to a medium that was sent to Eyraud head stadium to find out if the place is in fact cursed or if they can get past their playoff heartbreaks this weekend. And so I need to set that up by playing for you a few examples of the terrible things that have struck. The chiefs at Arrowhead the kick is up. It looked why the left Pitt looked why tenth wide left going. AM update. Or something. From. Against the Steelers on the road in Kansas City, which left. He. He was married to grow it. He caught it. Protect. Titans. One. Who as painful for me, and I'm not a chief's fan. Ten seventy the fan. NBC sports one of four five zone all contributing to that those were some playoff losses to the colts. Broncos Steelers and titans. Let's go to the shell Pennzoil performance line where the heartland medium Vicky Millard joins us. She's a psychic medium and a paranormal investigator into Pika Kansas and the guys from Eyraud head guys dot com decided to call her up and see if she could take a stadium tour with her psychic team and figure out what's going on at Arrowhead. So Vicki let's start with the basics. Are you a sports fan of you done? This a lot for sports teams know, this actually was the first time that I've ever done anything sports related. And when they contacted me I was like, well, this is sounds really exciting to be able to tour the stadium and just kinda see you know, what's going on over there. And I had heard. Just you know, a few times people saying that they thought that there was a curse or something on the stadium. So I was I was excited to try to see if I could figure out what was going on. So Vicki when you first walk into the stadium. Give me that moment there, you get like some sort of a sense of good or bad when you first walk in. Well, you know, and we pulled up in the parking lot and got out and we were walking up towards the the stadium. I got this gut feeling and it's like my stomach gets kind of a little upset. And so I know at that point that there is something going on, and then I'm in the right place. And so after that happened, then we made our way inside and and into the the pro shop there and nothing much, you know, going on in there. And so then we headed we headed out for the tour and one of the one of the first things that we came up on was an area. Of the lower concourse that. I just felt really uncomfortable. So that was the first uncomfortable nece that I had I felt like, you know, I just felt it almost like an earthquake. It just something was shaking that awkward an awkward feeling that I get is usually when someone's past in the area. So that was kind of one of the first things that that happened. And as I was mentioning to Gary what I was feeling, and I said, do you understand why would feel that way? And he said, yes. So, you know, and then then we discontinued on we're talking to Vickie Millard, a psychic medium who went to aero head stadium to find out if the chiefs are cursed from the beyond tell me about the man in the suit that you felt the presence of okay? So we worked our way to one of the sweets, and I'd never. Been in a suite before. So I worked my way down to the the seating area. And as I looked across the stadium. I saw a man and he had a suit dressed very nicely. And I could tell that the suit and the entire that. He wore was looked like, and I do this on my investigations all the time. I try to figure out what era you know, from in looked like maybe late sixties early seventies suit. And I and when I say I saw him I didn't look clear across the field and actually see him. I get the images in my in my mind, and and I can feel where the energy is coming from. So it was across the field. But I got the images and I saw him. So clearly, and as I did that I was like, you know, I need to find out who this man is. So that's where we kind of you know, started and we find out later, and you realize later with the help of the gosh. Murrow had stadium dot com or had guys dot com that it's Hank strand former Super Bowl winning coach who was fired and seventy four many chiefs fans objected to his firing and some claim he still has a grudge against the franchise. And the franchise is founder Lamar hunt over his termination. So I guess the question is what can be done Vicky. If if Hank is still hanging around is that a good thing does he just want to watch the game or is sticking around to curse him. Will. You know, it how I figured out. It was him. As is. I recognize them in the wall of pictures that they had there, and then I pointed him out and the the Arrowhead guide. They knew exactly who he would. I had no clue who he was even when they said his name. I still had no clue who that was. But I when we headed down to the field, you could feel that there was lower name. Negative vibrational energy. And it just it was layers and layers and layers and how that happens is. I mean, anytime you get anything negative going on whether to be in that house or business or whatever it might be you just get this lower negative Br vibrational energy, and can you imagine how much negative energy could compiled up there? I mean, you've got players, you know, practically feeling each other. You got coaches Yonne players. You've got you've got people yelling at the the officials and you've got the fans from both teams whoever wins. The other fans are are mad. So you've just got all this negative energy built up in there, and I trained in bio energy healing, which is a way to move energy. Whether it be in the physical body or around the physical body or whether it be, you know, in a in a certain location. And my nine year old grandson, he has been training with me, and he's pretty much become a pretty good medium himself, and he also can move energy. So discreetly him and I did some energy moving while we were down on the field. And you know, Hank we keep seeing Hank. But I don't think that you know, I he may still I just feel like he had some unfinished business like gosh. You know? I just feel like he is ready to say, okay. You know, I'm a chief through and through. And I'm ready for you know, the chiefs to to go all the way again, I think he's I think he's finally decided it's okay. And I wanna make sure that my goodness if his family, here's this or someone hears this that saying that Hank is like stuck here. Absolutely. Not. He's in great place. He can come and go. And so I just wanna make sure that they know that he's in a great place, and he has the best seat in the house. So, but we did move the negative energy after we did that the place to seem to light lighten up. And and Gary came over to me and said, did you like bless blesses place or something? And I was like why do you say that? And he just said, I can just feel it. It's different to the air. Isn't as heavy, you know, and it was like almost like the sun came out, and it hadn't changed, but it just brightened up in there. And you know, as we walked back into the locker room, you know, it just it just felt so different. So I'm hoping you know, alleviating some of that that heavy energy will will certainly help. I'm a little bit nervous that maybe the first couple of passes might be a little long because it's not going to be so. In their interesting. I don't know. Maybe maybe somebody should let Patrick no. But that's gonna be that's gonna be tough because Patrick Mahomes is already so. The energy isn't thick for him. So right. But but you know, what? I mean, it's just an I really see once he fig figures out what the energy and everything is like going on. He is going to have some spectacular passes. I mean there it's going to be beautiful. The chiefs managed to exercise some of the demons and the energy is better. You guys all will. Remember that? Vicky Millard the heartland media is the one to thank we'll Vicky and her grandson twos. Can find her bring her to your next family function? If you need to clear the energy there. We know take your to your office. If you hate your boss, you'll figure it out. Thank you. Thank you, you know, but it's really in the chiefs hands. Now, you know, I get all I and and I can't go out there and play the game forum. So they've got they've gotta be on. They've got to be on Saturday. But she did her best. Right. Thank you so much Vicky. Thank you. Vicki. Appreciate it the heartland medium, Vicky Millard. We'll we'll tell you a little more about this. And some news coming from another NFL team looking for a head coach coming up next. All right. Chiefs fans, you heard it here first from the heartland media. Do you believe that the energy at Arrowhead has been cleared? And also are you now terrified that Patrick Mahomes passes will fly clear out of the stadium and into neighboring city. I like that angle that she had the energy so clear now it's not so not so weighted down that they're going to be overthrowing some guys early on in this in this game. It's made in bits on ESPN radio the espionage app and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz we are presented by progressive insurance. And if you missed it, we just talked to the heartland medium who was hired by Arrowhead guys dot com to go to Arrowhead stadium and try to figure out if the stadium itself is filled with that energy, and is the result of their many losses. One of the guys from head guys got com is a professor. Does a lot of statistics. And he calculated it as a point two three percent chance that the chiefs would lose all of the playoff games at home that they have uh. So there's clearly something that they're trying to get to the bottom of. And according to our gal, the heartland medium, not only did she come into contact with the former Super Bowl winning coach. That was fired that many believe has a grudge against the franchise. She also talked about a section of the stadium that was calling to her that something was going on there. And it was the same area where a man was killed during a nineteen seventy-two crane collapsed during construction of the stadium, and she also was a recognizing grabbing her leg saying something was wrong with her leg and the gentleman. She was with from Arrowhead stadium dot com had lost his leg shortly before he died, and they were in the section of his seats that he took him to Jason do you believe all the chilling facts that are coming through because of the Hartland mediums tale. Kinda want to like I've really do like I'm all in for this. I I want this to be true. You know, maybe I don't know. But again, I don't believe in in like big curses or anything like that. So like, I is it possible that maybe she helped. But also the chiefs are still gonna lose. Sorry, guys. I mean, it is it is possible. I mean, she did cover her basis though. She did say listen, I'm not gonna win the game. I'm not suiting up out there. All I can tell you is that I don't think anyone's holding a grudge anymore and some of the some of the bad energy is cleared. It's still up to them to get it done. Right. And that's that's gonna be the ultimate like part of it. I mean, this is all funny. And if you can lift a curse, I mean, come on for all those years with the cubs. Like, you try anything right to at least. They did they actually had a priest. Come and bless the dugout, and I'll tell you it didn't work that year. Most of us. Most of us were like, really, we're really doing this. We're really, you know, we're really believing in the quote unquote curse to the point where we have religious figures bringing. You know, special water cleanse it on. That is sort of a hysterical thought like that, you know, of all the things we're gonna fix in the world what we're going to use our medium power of prayer specialists. Our we have special powers, we're going to fix this. But we're not gonna fix hunger. We're not gonna fix more. But we are going to face this whole World Series thing. We gotcha. Yeah. It's been a big deal. The heartland medium told the guys when they asked, you know, full full on is is the aero Ed stadium curse. She said not anymore. I don't know that it ever was. But it certainly isn't now and she did say if you can chiefs fans just express a little gratitude towards the old coach Hank Straem, his spirit would enjoy it and a little positive push positive energy can't hurt. I'm usually not a believer. In these things. I told the story maybe like a year and a half ago. My friends got a psychic. And I was really annoyed that I had to chip in. And I thought it was dumb. And I still don't know if people have these abilities. But this lady freak me out. She knew stuff about all of us. And it was weird. And she wasn't like trying to speak the future. She was just explaining a lot of stuff, and it made me a lot less cynical than I used to be. I can't speak for whether the heartland medium actually encountered the old coach of the chiefs. But you know, if I'm a chief San why not why not send some love to goal. Trams side note, can you go and send me your friends number. So we can start talking raiders. I mean, I'll take all these things you need to start now to all. Here's a look, but part of the point of all of this forever. You know, it it sort of I it's an example of how difficult this era has been for the chiefs, and it's not just this year. I mean, we go all the way back. I remember when I was a kid watching Joe Montana and the chiefs get home field advantage. And you thought man with Joe Montana and home field advantage. They're going to be just fine. Didn't work out that way. I mean, it was it's the length of time that the chiefs have been a great or good football team that had been in the conversation and of just found a way to knock get it done. And like we said earlier, Sarah like part, pardon me looks at it and says, hey that could happen again this year and is hard as this is for fans to hear it could be nobody's fault. Like the colts. Are that good right now? I think the culture playing great great football. And in. I'm looking at the colts say, and I wouldn't I don't think it'd be a huge upset if they beat the chiefs, and it will still suddenly be reflective of the chiefs dropping the ball and not maximizing an operative. Right. Well, I mean worth saying though, that part of that stems from the initial. I mean insanity over the chiefs in the Rams, right? We thought the entire NFL had changed forever. Because of what we were watching from these offenses and worth noting that there has been sort of a seismic shift because of rule changes because of a fresh creative offense of minded coaches because of capable signal callers there has been a shift, but we saw defenses catch up. And so if the Rams and chiefs fall in this divisional round, it's not necessarily because of bad energy. It's because we're seeing things even out a little more. And we're seeing defensive-minded guys catch up to the tricks in this game that we saw really dominating early on. Now that being said fits the Rams have a lot more flaws to me than the chiefs. Do the chiefs are a team that is good as the colts look should win this game. And I think fair or not this will come across as another. Andy Reid mistake. Even if it it he puts together the perfect plan. And and it just doesn't execute are. Things don't drop or the luck isn't his doesn't go his way. Well, when you think about for the chargers aspect of it when you think about what what the charges are trying to get done nave see to me. I can't find that. The Andy Reid thing is easy. I think my mind is still a little I'm still shook Sarah that you you you made the Philip rivers. Now stuck in my head. Like, Philip rivers is the problem with the chargers, and I have a hard time saying that. But when you look at the match ups, they both just have really tough like the chargers going to New England should not be easy for that team. I I it's hard for me to the are the chargers a better football team than the patriots today. Yes. I do think they are are the chargers a better team in New England. No. So is it a shortcoming for the chargers if they lose that game? I I don't know how to quantify that. Yeah. That's a tough one especially because like you said the patriots are so dominant in Foxborough and because historically they Philip rivers has not been good against the patriots. The chargers have played the patriots eight times with rivers at quarterback. And the chargers are one in seven in those. Games. The only time that rivers has led the chargers to a victory over the patriots was two thousand eight when Matt Cassel was at quarterback Brady was out with a tornado. So this is setting up for disaster. Based on the fact that you believe that the chargers to be a better team and the patriots to be flawed and on the way out of their dynastic window. But looking at that that's a lot of mental stuff to bring into that one. Right. Speaking of bad energy knowing your history against them. And ultimately, I keep looking at that just thinking of having to go back to the east coast again. I mean, I'm surprised that it says, it's it's hard. Well, hopefully, we haven't ruined the day for he's gonna talk Cuyler Murray next and his big decision on Spain. And fits we all thought we knew what Karla Murray was going to do. He's going to go to baseball is going to get that guaranteed money. He's going to avoid the crushing blows of football and settle into a career with the Oakland A's. But. Not so fast big decision to be made Spain in bits on ESPN radio the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz. We are presented by progressive insurance with spoon to talk about a guy. That's got a decision to make choosing between two sports. We thought who better to speak to it than a former two sport athlete. Brian Jordan, former MLB outfielder and NFL safety to speak to the decision. Kyle Murray is making let's go to the shell Pennzoil performance line. Brian, let's start with a are you surprised that after all of the conversation that by this point? We now have have a new conversation about Murray, and that he's maybe deciding he doesn't want to just go straight to baseball. Absolutely not. I'm not surprised when they when you're able to able to play two sports at such a high level for so long. Like, this young man has being one of very few to make the under armor baseball team on a heist. School and football team. It says a lot about his abilities, and you know, to go out there and excel at the college level, like he has, you know, it's great to see another potential two sport athlete out there. And he is in a great position right now to to be very successful at both sports. So Brian if he wants to go all in on getting ready for the combine and getting ready for teams in the draft and that causes him to miss them spring training. If he then flips a switch and decides he wants to go back to baseball. How far back will that set him? Well, he's talented enough to make a judgment. And you know, he's he's also talented enough to know that he has to keep swinging even if he's going through football workout, and I'm quite sure smart enough to do that. So he'll be prepared for both. You know, he's already in football shape knowing that the season. It's just indie. And for me. He's definitely in baseball shape already. So it's gonna be a tough decision for him. But I I don't think that's going to be a problem. You know, everybody's talking about Hayes may four point six million dollars. Well, you know, what if he goes in the first round NFL, he's gonna make a lot more of that, you know, upfront being a quarterback, but it will be tougher for him to play two sports though being a quarterback versus beyond Santa's vote Jackson myself. But with position players, basically, you know, it's such pressures on a quarterback to to know everything about every position that defenses. You know, it's a it's a year long mission on quarterbacks, you know, they got to build this report with their line. They gonna build a report with the receivers and offense of coordinators, which you know is a yearly thing not just the season. So if he does play football is gonna take a lot of focus and concentration for them to be elite quarterback in the NFL Spain fence, we're talking to Brian Jordan, Fox Sports south analysts yet a fifteen year. Major league baseball career was a safety for a couple years with the falcons now you were with the falcons from eighty nine to ninety one while you were working your way up the minor league system for the cardinals on the baseball side. The on the fact that the quarterback position is a different one in it is sort of a year round pursuit. It's also a different time. How would you speak to the differences in the current age of professional sports and and requirements versus when you were playing in the nineties and early two thousands. Well, it's a lot safer. I can tell you that, you know, with all the new tackling rules and no. Helmet contact rules. That's something to think about if if I'm calling Mary I mean, it's not as as rough and tough as it used to be. So the NFL's don't a good job of trying to make this a safe a ball game. But it is a difference. You know for me, you know, Dan, I came in the same time. So it was perfect timing for both of us to go out there and do the same thing and Atlanta Falcons, they will all on allowing it to happen. So you know, I it's about having that opportunity and Oakland A's seem like they're going to give them that opportunity. They they rather not see them play football. But you know, he's just that good to go out there and win the Heisman Trophy. And I guarantee you he's probably if not the top quarterback coming out, which I think has skins because of his size is probably the number one quarterback. But he's surely gonna be right there. Number two three in this NFL draft. We're talking to Fox Sports south analyst Bri. In Jordan on the shell Pennzoil performance line Spain and fits so if you were a GM right now in the NFL looking at Kyla Murray on the draft board would the fear that he would decide at any point during his contract to just go back and play baseball. 'cause you to let him drop down the draft board. No, he's such impactful player. And you look at the situation now in the NFL. I mean, they're they're moving towards athletic quarterbacks mobile quarterbacks. You know, the college offenses are finding their way to the NFL right now. You know, it's about school imports in the NFL to win. And you know, so a guy like calamari fits that Bill. You look at what Lamar Jackson did last year for the ravens GM's starting to look at that. And say man, you know, that would be awesome to to have athlete that can extend the play extended drop to keep out defense off the field. And that's why Paul the most probably one of the better defenses in the league because they held the ball so long because Lamar Jackson legs and arm, and I think calamari has that same ability and can be very impactful in the whole situation with Kingsbury getting the head coach and tell with the Arizona Carney. I think that would be ideal situation for him, you know, to be able to be in Arizona around baseball year round and the able to work with the old see and his his teammates and still play baseball. I think if he can get in that scenario, we'll see him do both sports insane and Fitz on ESPN radio talking to foxsports out analyst and former to support pro athlete, Brian Jordan. You don't a lot of the conversation around Murray's decision. I think some arguments stemmed from those who believe it makes sense for this to be a financial and business decision for any athlete who has just a small window to make as much money as possible in the career that they've devoted their life to up to this point and others who argued that the best way to make this decision is love of the game. Which one of those do you find yourself drawn to the most which one I guess, maybe frustrates you the most when you hear someone arguing it while I if frustrate straits me when they argue that because you know, he wouldn't be playing. Oh at such a high level, he didn't love both sports and to be one of the elite to have that opportunity to play to professional sports. I mean, he would be foolish not to at least take advantage and and give himself an opportunity. I think he's a tremendous player Beck and get it done. Again. I it's a lot of things have to happen the right way for them. And you know, I'm I'm pulling for him. I really hope that he he does play both. Because as a quarterback, you know, if you think about it. He he gets drafted in the first round that four point six million that was given to him about it, the as we'll go by the wayside, and they'll make a lot of money and those first three years the becoming the quarterback and a quarterback that I can go in there and start on certain teams right now. So he plays three years. I played three years in the NFL. And I decided, hey, okay. That's enough. I was beating my body up. And I said, well, let's go play baseball. And I was. Able to do that. And I think he has the ability to do the same thing, you know, high eleven point seven million dollar signing bonus help to write that Saint Louis game. I give up football. Oh, no question. I'm gonna be honest. I wasn't really petty give up because I was just you know, I was altered in the Pro Bowl. I was just starting to take off in the NFL. But because I had a family at that time. It was just a smarter decision on jeopardy healthwise. You know, I was heck I was almost second on team in tackles. So I was really beaten up my body right behind Jessie tuggle. So you know, the two years we we will battling it out. So Brian, you know, doesn't there have to be some concern? If he tries to play both. I mean, just the timing of it. If he's on a baseball team at any point. That's good. Then a team's not going to have their starting quarterback until the end of the World Series. Or he's going to have to leave a baseball team in the middle of a World Series run to go play football. Like that just doesn't seem like it can work. Well, you gotta understand. I'm not saying right away. I'm gonna take some times worked his way to the major leagues. So you look at his first in NFL. He's gonna probably play what maybe twenty five mile league baseball games. And then go return back football camp. You know, I played thirty minor league games hit over three hundred and went and play football. So they knew I had to potential I show my potential on the baseball field, those thirty games. So they never gave up on me. And they kept giving me the opportunities. And I think he's that type of player. He has power. Yes. Speed. He can be successful at the baseball at major league baseball level. But he's it's gonna take him time to make those first three years. They're going to be important. But it gives them time to go play football two. It's about, you know, having right situation and having both teams, you know, giving him that opportunity to do that that's going to be important. Let you go one word if he has to pick one, which one should you pick in your opinion. Of course baseball longevity. Long, debbie. Thanks for the enzyme, really. Appreciate it. Sure. It's taken. Thanks so much. And. Brian Jordan of Fox Sports. Awesome stuff. We'll get back into Kylo Murray because there's more to get to on that. But we want to get into the AFC playoff picture. We're gonna do that next on Spain and Fitz. Quick update on our poll, we asked chiefs fans, and I'm sure they weren't the only ones voting whether the heartland medium has cleared the negative energy at Arrowhead stadium. A seventy percent of fan said, no. But thirty percent believe that she went in and exorcised the demons and made it a little bit easier for the chiefs to blow off some of those demons from the past. Well, I mean that means seventy percent of the people are part of the problem. We just heard about negative energy, y'all. I gotta pick that energy up think positive stadium needs it. That's right. She did mention that. If you could send some good thoughts to old Hank Schram or strong, or strong, whatever his name was the old coach they got unfairly fired that that would that would be helpful. So you know, what do you have to lose chiefs fans other than another playoff game? That was meet. I'm sorry. You know, what we promise you? We were gonna talk AFC, but I actually won't talk NFC because we haven't. Really gotten into those teams much and these games this weekend fits are. So hard to predict we asked yesterday what people felt the most confident picking the winner of. And it was the saints against the eagles, which you know, any other time of the season. I'd probably say absolutely sure the saints or the most balanced team. They were might preseason pick for a Super Bowl champion. And and then I look over at big Nick energy over there. Nick foles who seems to be absolutely untouchable come late season compla- offs. Anytime. The pressure is on and it's making me a little bit more concerned for the saints coming into this weekend. I still feel great about this one. And that basically means I'm wrong, right? The song I feel about the worst the worst. This is going to go. But I think so much becomes back to the fact that it's in New Orleans, and you know, we just sort of accepted the fact that this point that New Orleans is able to do whatever they want. However, they want particularly at home this year. They've done it with question marks wide receiver a time. They've been able to do whatever they want because frankly, drew Brees is great Alvin kamera's played great like when you think about the offense for the saints. They've been able to score so many points. And I I realized that the eagles went in and did the unthinkable. I did not think that they'd be able to put up a fight against your bears. I understand that. But you got to score a lot more points. And I mean a lot more points to compete with the saints team. That's a tall order for Nick foles. I don't think look Nick foles is doing a nice job. He's doing a great job. But you really wanna get into a shootout with Nick foles? I I don't think. So I don't think you do. Yeah. There are some interesting injury report folks that might you know. Lend some extra intrigue to this game. Al Sean Jeffrey limited because of ribs both yesterday and today, so we'll see if that ends up being important Dramont Bushrod limited because of a hamstring saints offense tackle. So there are some that, you know, Michael Bennett who's been absolutely huge didn't practice either day because of a foot injury. He's been able to play in games. Even when he's been limited in practice. So I think you probably feel pretty confident that he'll find his way onto the field. But yeah, I mean some of these some of these injuries could come into play this part of the season. The saints are going to be much more rested. Obviously since they got to sit and watch as the bears in eagles beat each other up. I think Mike confidence in drew Brees outweighs my shorty that Nick foles continue his hot streak dumb. And it did take a lot right? The bears had that game in their hands or I guess in their foot and it got away. Oh. And you know, again, I think it's the number of options here like Michael Thomas, led the NFL hundred twenty five catches drew Brees. Obviously spectacular year. I mentioned on the Kamera. They were the six Beth best rushing yardage team in the NFL and the most rushing touchdowns when you think about all those numbers stacked up they're going to be able to score points. And when you get into shoot, I don't I don't wanna get into a shootout. If I'm the eagles. I don't see any way the eagles can prevent the shootout. That's why I think they lose a game. And the home field advantage is huge as you mentioned Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and the ESPN app Sarah Spain and Jason Shelly fits with you. Let's move onto that other game. We got Rams Cowboys. And this is one that I said of the four I feel the most confident in this is also coming from someone that went one in three in wildcard picks and thought the Cowboys were gone last weekend. The Rams are team that we have seen flaws in an especially down the stretch Goff kind of cooled off a bit. And it felt like defenses around the league were catching up to the genius of Sean McVeigh. And this is interesting not just because of the expectations for the Rams all season long. But also because the entire league is hiring coaches in in the mirror image of Sean McVeigh, and creating a coaching tree for a guy that is this new coach himself. So if he doesn't win a playoff game. And you've got a guy who's influencing the entire league without ever winning ask single playoff game. That's super intriguing as well. And it's intriguing to me to see how this offense goes in this game. Let's remember last year. The the Rams only about thirteen points in the first round of the playoffs. So and their first playoff game, not the equality effort. They wanted they haven't played well down the stretch as you mentioned, but they didn't have Todd Gurley. I mean Todd Gurley hasn't carried the ball since the the middle of December at this point. So in my mind, this is going to be about girly who reports today, he's been fully cleared. He's gonna play. He's one hundred percent. He's a full participants bid taking off the injury report. So he's healthy. You can ask him to be right now, we're gonna find out quickly because as much as we wanna talk about golf and as much as. We want to talk about the dynamic offense. It's really all triggered through Todd Gurley. So if girlies healthy, I think they they not only win they win convincingly. But part of that's because frankly, I just wanna I wanna hear the pain in the tears from will Caine on. An admirable reason to to root for their demise. Thank you mentioned the run game, obviously is equally at a huge part of this match up to LA allowed the most yards per carry in the league this season. And as equal Elliott led the NFL in rushing in just fifteen games, by the way. So this is a team that likes to run the football and play with the lead. They like to put Ezekiel Elliott out there, and let him lead the way. And this is not a Rams team. That's particularly built for that. They have been able to win games even went allowing a lot of ground coverage for the opponent. But in all three of their losses this season. The opposing team rushed for at least one hundred ten yards. This is this is a team that's nine and oh if they can hold their opponents under one hundred ten yards on the ground. So I think of focus very early on is to take as equally out of this one. And it has to be also I thought the other interesting set coming in as the Cowboys are six in one when Zeke it's twenty or more carries. I don't look at this game plan and see how. How is it possible? He's not gonna get twenty cares. Right. They're going to have to find a way to impose the he's gonna get the twenty carries. So something's got break. Here. You know? And that's the other advantage for the Cowboys is going to be that they're going to run the ball a bunch. They're going gonna have success winning the ball, which is time that they're basically on the field, and they're going to be able to take the Rams out of their rhythm and their offense. I mean, that's the game plan is pretty simple in that sense. The question is just going to be which one of these coaches goes out and wins the game for their team because it'll be funny to me at the very least of the conversation afterwards. If McVay wins McVay loses. Sorry, well, he gets some sort of a dust on this policies got right now. But conversely, if Jason Garrett loses he's losing to the hottest coach right now in the NFL, not just because he's a cute guy. But a hottest goes in the NFL, and all of a sudden they're still going to be questioned if they get beat bad. There's going to be questions about Jason Garrett jobs. So a, you know, it's it's two coaches in trending and completely different directions for the court of public opinion, absolutely sarahspain and Jay. Jason fitz. You're right about that. We did have GARRETT'S job basically, gone midseason, and then they eat their way into the playoffs and one wildcard game. And now all bets are sort of office far as understanding what Jerry Jones might be thinking about his head coach fits, are you a rust guy. Are you concerned at all about the teams that sat last week? No, I think at this point, you know, look if you win the nobody's gonna complain about anything if you lose complained about everything, but ultimately, I write these are pro athletes. I I love I love the idea of getting guys healthy. I think that's the most important thing you can possibly do. So I'm gonna take health over any argument about getting rusty after after the grind of entire regular season. One extra week shouldn't suddenly make you incapable of you know, not committing Bonet penalties. For example, news from the Bengals coming up next on Spain and Fitz. Also, we'll talk to someone out of Casey to see if anybody surrounding euro head stadium. And that team has the same concerns that the guys Ramiro head guys dot com. Had is the team itself? Send. A medium to the stadium to clearly the coming up next on Spain and bits.

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Presidents' Day - Childhoods

Bedtime History: Inspirational Stories for Kids

09:11 min | 1 year ago

Presidents' Day - Childhoods

"Welcome to bed time history. First off a big shout out to fans who've been leaving reviews and sending kind messages on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube. I can't tell you how much I appreciate these kind comments. If you haven't had a chance, please leave a review where you can be greatly appreciated. Also, we've been producing a bunch of new YouTube videos this last week. We did one on Marco Polo, Martin Luther King Mozart, Walt Disney and plan to do a lot more head on over there. And please subscribe YouTube is one way we're finding we can pay for some of the expenses to keep the podcast running and we greatly. Appreciate the support. So in the United States today is presidents day president's day is a day. We celebrate the life and presidencies of the individuals who served in the highest political office in our country today, we thought it would be fun to focus on part of their life's that is often overlooked their childhoods. And I am lucky to know. Some of the smartest people who know allot about the lives of presidents. Most of this material comes from Britney at the American moms, check them out on Instagram or their website, the American moms dot com, they always share great ideas about how you can teach and inspire your kids. So once again, a big thanks to Brittany at the American moms for all of the awesome research. So even though all of these individuals rose to the highest office in the United States government, many of them came from very little. Many of us know about ABRAHAM LINCOLN. If you don't know about his childhood checkout episode about honest, Abe because we go into a lot more detailed there lost his mother. A very young age often was left alone by his father to take care of his little sister at the woods of Kentucky. He had to teach himself to read and didn't go to normal school. He had to learn to become a lawyer all by himself, and he still became the president of the United States. That's pretty amazing, right? Andrew Jackson was the seventh president of the United States. The year before Andrew Jackson was born his family immigrated that means moved to America from Ireland. Sadly, his father died just after Andrew was born in his mother hoped. Andrew would become a minister in their church, but he was a pretty wild kid and that continued until he was an adult. It's becoming a minister didn't work out. When the American revolution started. That's the war America fought for its freedom from Great Britain, Andrew and his two brothers joined the war. Andrew was only thirteen years old. Can you believe that sadly during the war? He lost one of his brothers, an Andrew and his other brother were captured by the enemy the British while they were prisoners became very Smick sick with smallpox eventually their mother arranged for their release and they were set free. Millard Fillmore was the thirteenth president of the United States. Millard was also born to a very poor family like ABRAHAM LINCOLN. He was born in a log cabin to family of farmers who often couldn't feed him and his brothers and sisters because they didn't have any money. They sent Millard to be an apprentice cloth maker an apprentice is someone who is in training by an expert cloth maker in this case while Millard word there, they paid his family a little so they could have food to eat. But as an apprentice Millard was treated badly. They were Tim, very hard. Eventually Millard saved up some money and bought himself his freedom. Then he walked one hundred miles back to his family farm from their own out. He decided to educate himself and was so desperate to learn sometimes even stole books. It was a rough life, but he was dedicated to learning. So we didn't have to be poor and hungry like his parents like ABRAHAM LINCOLN Millard Todd himself to become a lawyer and became very successful. At it often. We think that the only way to learn is by going to school, but that's not true. The people who become the bus learners teach themselves things, and you can do that too. And believe it or not someday school end. But it's important to enjoy learning and keep on learning. Anyway, James Garfield was the twentieth. President of the United States as an adult. He wants said, I never meet a ragged boy in the street without feeling that I may owe him a salute for I know, not what possibilities may be bundled up under his coat. What he meant by. This was that even though you might see someone who doesn't look like they could do much in life as child you never know. And shouldn't judge them by appearances James was born in Ohio? He lost his father when he was only two years old as the youngest his mother and siblings were super protective him but had great hopes for him. They knew that whatever happened James had to have an education. They did whatever they could to make it happen saving. Every penny to send him to school, his mom, even convinced local leaders to build a schoolhouse right on their property since that was the only way her children could ever receive an education she really cared about their education. But she was very sad when James quit school and went to work for canal company, a canal is a man made river that boats can move things up and down. Although James had never seen the ocean. He was fascinated by it and work. On a canal boat was the closest thing to meeting that dream one night while working he fell into the canal and almost drowned miraculously he grabbed a hold of a rope and pulled himself in the ropes never should have been there. And his James said, I took it as a sign that God had bigger plans for me after this experience James returned home and decided to go back to school. He worked as a janitor and things began to improve for him. He quickly rose to the top of his class and was asked to be a teacher the next year. Theodore or teddy Roosevelt was the twenty sixth president of the United States when he was little his family was very wealthy. Unlike many of the other presidents, but teddy was always very sick often has kind father would carry him around at night or take him on carriage rides while he was coughing to try and make him feel better. His mother tried to be very protective of teddy. But it's father's took a different path. His father said he needed to work his body to become stronger rather than stand side. So teddy spent much of his childhood, exploring the woods studying out, the creatures around their home and drawing pictures of them. Later. He went on to become a very smart man who knew a lot about nature animals as the president. He started museums because of his love for science. He also created the first national parks to protect wildlife and nature in his teenage years. He spent a lot of time living what he called the strenuous life. He lifted weights and went boxing and ran and worked hard to become stronger. Eventually his sickness went away, and he became a strong and courageous man. He became known for his rough lifestyle and love for adventure. Spend some time thinking about these incredible people in what they went through his children, even though they had very little or had hard childhoods. They were able to teach themselves work, hard and do great things. Teddy Roosevelt exercise and explored the natural world around him that helped him to grow think about what you can do to improve your situation like these presidents did as children, they're no different than you. But the choices they made made all the difference for you might be setting a to read a little more for finding a new hobby that interests you or helping a sibling who needs you all of these little steps each day make a difference and change your character in ways that will last a lifetime. I hope he learned something new about the president's. I know I did a big thanks again to Brittany at the American moms sure to check them out and have a happy presidents day. And we'll talk to you next time.

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Winston Churchill:  The Great Escape Part 10 | The Manhunt & Trainspotting

Giants of History

22:17 min | 10 months ago

Winston Churchill: The Great Escape Part 10 | The Manhunt & Trainspotting

"And uh the early morning hours of December thirteenth eighteen ninety nine at the stats model school in Pretoria South Africa Africa started out pretty normal. There was no great alarm being sounded. There were no soldiers rushing around frantically throwing open doors and cabinets and tearing apart the beds everything was serene almost almost but that would all change soon enough Winston Churchill had been gone about twelve hours by the time the first soldier entered the tiny. The room were Churchill's bed was according to author Candice Millard Quote. The soldier servant stepped into their room that morning carrying a cup of Coffee Afi. He spoke to what he believed was. Churchill still rapt motionless in blankets in his bed when there was no answer he simply set at the coffee on the chair and walked away and quote well. The reason. Churchill didn't respond to the soldier in his room with a cup of coffee that morning was because Churchill wasn't in the room that morning just like something straight out of a movie. The soldier was talking to a dummy made up of pillows and blankets. That was made to look like a person who is still in bed now. Like I said we've all seen this in a movie before and some of us have actually done this ourselves and I think most of us will attest that it does does work like a charm and it was how Dane and Brockie that had scrambled at the last minute to put this dummy together to buy Churchill some more. We're time but the distraction that this dummy provided didn't last very long and it was Churchill's own fault for Churchill. Will forever the pampered Aristocrat. He had forgotten to cancel the appointment that he had made with his barber for that very morning so so when his barber showed up at eight. Am for what had become Churchill's Regiment of shave and a haircut. Churchill was nowhere to be found and the a barber who insisted on knowing where Churchill was and who wanted to be paid he and the guard that had accompanied him inside the room. They started to check all the other rooms and then they checked the bathroom than everywhere else that they could think to look asking every man that they came across if they had seen Churchill. And just as you might expect the barber but more so all the bore guards. They started to run the spectrum of emotions. Now I they were puzzled where was churchill where had Churchill gone then. They became mildly concerned and then worried until all of that gave way to complete and utter panic as they slowly realised what had actually taken place place during the night somehow some way Winston Churchill had escaped and it was soon after this frenzied search that was conducted of the entire property. That the goodbye letter that we read a few episodes back that Churchill had left for his captors raptors. It was discovered under his pillow and it was right after that that the man hunt began when we left off last episode the then twenty five year old Winston Churchill had escaped the bore or prison walls only to find himself in the middle of the city of Pretoria at night with hundreds of miles still standing between him and true true freedom. Churchill target destination at that moment was Portuguese East Africa or what we know today as Mozambique but as we said Portuguese East Africa or his more specific target Della go obey was three hundred miles directly east of Pretoria right right on the Indian Ocean so no small distance and with no other means of transportation other than his legs Churchill decided to just go oh for it and start walking in that direction having faith that somewhere along the lines his loose plan for post escape travel would all come together right we keep talking about how Churchill simply trusted that no matter what happened he would make it. Even with the limited provisions that he had that being being some melted chocolate and a crumpled biscuit inside his pocket again somehow he would get where he needed to go and almost right in line with his vision just a few hours. After he started walking east through the South African velde he stumbled upon some train tracks and so he started to follow them and soon enough somewhere in the dark distance. He heard the rumblings of a train travelling his way and and in those few minutes between when he heard the train and when he finally saw its lights Churchill determined that he had no other options but to try and get on on that train and put some much-needed distance between him. And the boar- army. That would soon be pouring out of Pretoria looking for him so his decision was made in an instant he was getting on that train. The only question that thus remained in that moment was could he jumped on it. Well he was about to find out come hell or high water but Churchill thought that his odds of jumping the train. R- actually pretty good. The reason being is that Churchill had spotted the lights of a train station nations in the near distance just before he heard the din of the inbound train so Churchill knew that the train would have to be stopping at that station Shen and if he hustled and got to the other side of the station he could simply hop on that train as it slowly pulled out again after all it would take the train a bit of time to accelerate and get back up to full speed so churchill did hustle and he did get to the station before the train pulled in and he decided to hide in the bushes a little bit down from the station that he could hop on the train in the darkness of the Velde without anybody seeing him and so he waited there in the bushes for the train to whistle and then slowly chug forward toward him but Churchill was soon caught off guard by how fast the train actually accelerated out of the station and before he knew it. The train was almost back at full gallop as it got closer Oeser to him so it was going much faster than he thought it was going to be at that point and here are Churchill's own words capturing this moment in real time quote. The train train waited five minutes at the station and started again with much noise and steaming. I crouched by the track. I rehearsed the act in my mind. I must wait until the engine had passed otherwise I should be seen then. It must make a dash for the carriages Churchill continues quote the train started slowly but gathered speed much sooner than I had expected the flaring lights drew swiftly near the radical grew into roar. The dark mass hung for a second above me the engine driver silhouetted against his furnace glow. The black profile of the engine. The clouds of steam rushed past and quote and there. If we haven't mentioned awhile is one hell of a good example of the power of Churchill's own writing right. In my opinion he really can't paint scene for you. And then Churchill goes on to describe his attempt to jump jump on the train saying quote I heard myself on the trucks meaning. The train cars clutched at something missed. Clutched again missed again grabbed. Some sort of handhold was swung off my feet my toes bumping along the line and with a struggle seated myself on the couplings of the fifth fifth truck from the front of the train and quote and again right there the visual and the overall scene that he writes writes it. Just pops out at you and I can hear the train in my head and I can feel the intensity of the whole flailing allowed ordeal but ultimately as as you can hear Churchill made it onto the train and relief as temporary as it might be washed over him and he soon discovered that the trucks of the train were filled with sacks of goods which he could actually crawl under and Haydn Churchill says quote I crawled on top and burrowed in among them in five minutes. I was completely buried the sacks. Were warm and comfortable and quote but as soon as he was settled in and sufficiently hidden in his opinion. All the natural questions that one would ask oneself in that situation. They started to bounce around his mind. Signed Churchill writes of these questions quote. Where was the train going to? Where would it be unloaded? Would it be searched. Was It on the way to delegate obey what should I do in the morning and quote but then Churchill continues this line of thought almost dismissing the question saying quote Ah never mind that sufficient for the day was the luck thereof fresh plans for fresh contingencies. I resolved to sleep nor can I imagine a more pleasing lullaby than the clatter of the train that carries you at twenty miles an hour away from the enemies capital and quote and so sleep Churchill. Did he passed out on the train. Completely exhausted from the physical and mental stress of the whole escape scape but Churchill would awake sometime later. Not Knowing how long he had slept and having no idea how far he had traveled all he knew who was that. It was still dark out and that can only imagine how disoriented and how d stabilized Churchill must have been and when he woke up from asleep like that for Churchill goes on to say that for all the excitement and exhilaration that had filled him during the first part of his escape gape. When he woke up from that nap he was filled with worry and unease? He wasn't sure what his next step should be but he knew that he had to get off the train before the sun came up so that he could look for water without concern of being potentially seen and so he got up. He fought through the sacks that he was buried under he made his way to the edge of the train car and grabbed on an iron bar that was nearby he then waited for his moment with the sound of the wind and train cars loud in his ears in his own words quote. The train was running at a fair speed. But I felt it was time to leave it. I took hold of the iron handle at the back of the truck pulled strongly with my left hand and Sprang. My feet struck the ground in two gigantic strides and the next instant. I was sprawling the ditch considerably shaken but John hurt the train. My faithful ally of the night hurried on its journey and quote so Churchill got up and immediately began searching for water in the nearest gully and soon enough he found quote clear pool and he drank from it until he had his fill trying to prepare for all that lay ahead of him as the sun came up. He hit some bushes which became his home for pretty much the rest of the day as he wanted to stay hidden while the sun was up and during his stay in these bushes he had a close encounter with a nasty vulture as well as with a man who is hunting birds in the area but he was never seen or discovered and during his hiding he began to formulate a plan in in his head for getting out of four country and into Portuguese east Africa as soon as possible and so in formulating this plan. Churchill ritual assumed that the train he had just been on came through every night around the same time going in the same direction so the plan was simple. He would hide in the bushes of the velde during the day then. When night fell he would walk back to the train tracks and hop on the same scheduled train? When it came by him he would then ride the train for three or four hours covering sixty to eighty miles at a clip and then jump off the train again to find water and food before the sun came up then hide again during the day and he would simply repeat heat this safe cycle for four or five nights until he reached Portuguese East Africa and regained his freedom was the perfect plan? All right very simple done well not exactly for the next night when he wandered down to the tracks to wait for the train to come through against we could jump on it. He waited forever because no train ever came. He had no idea what had happened happened. But after hours of waiting there he decided to just start walking hoping to cover at least a little bit of distance before the Sun came up that next day as the sun came up on that second day he still wasn't seeing a single train passing him by and he finally finally understood why the reason was simple word was out on him. The message that he had escaped had been sent all the trains. Running out of through or near Pretoria had been shut down down as a result of his escape. The boars were committed to not letting Winston Churchill get very far and for a moment. Let's explore the impact that Churchill's escape had back at the stats model school in Churchill's own words quote early on Wednesday morning barely twelve hours. After I had escaped my absence was discovered and quote. Now as we said Hell L. Danun brockie had bought Churchill a little bit more time that morning after his escape by stuffing his bed with pillows and blankets making it look like he was still in in bed sleeping and again. It was Churchill's barber. That apparently wasn't fooled and reported him missing. First before they finally found the goodbye letter that Churchill himself had written and left under his pillow but truth be told despite their helping him how Dane and Brockie were pretty pissed I at Churchill for not only had Churchill left them behind essentially during the escape but Churchill's escape had virtually made their own future future escape nearly impossible given the guards. Were now all on high alert but it wasn't just the guards on high alert the whole whole country. It now seemed every bore soldier and civilian they all had one thing on their mind the finding and recapturing ring of Winston Churchill and here's Churchill's description of the boars reaction to his escape. The moment was discovered quote. The alarm arm was given telegrams with my description at great length were dispatched along the railways. Three thousand photographs were printed. A warrant was was issued for my immediate arrest. Every train was strictly searched. Every one was on the watch and quote and his description option which you just heard him refer to included the surface elements of course mentioning that all people quote with red hair and quote be examined Emond as Churchill's hair when he was younger was set to be Reddish in color and author candice. Millard also says that the descriptions of him included other elements that were aimed at embarrassing Churchill. Such as his quote stooping gate or that he has quote almost invisible moustache speaks six through. His nose cannot give full expression to the letter. S and does not know a word of Dutch and quote Millard also included the description from a telegram that went out about Churchill that said he quote occasionally makes a rattling noise in his throat and quote and of course when anything like this happens the rumor mill starts to swirl with theories about what happened sightings of the escapee in strange range places and all the rest and in Churchill's case some of the rumors surrounding his escape and where he was subsequently hiding included that he had disguised himself self as a woman to break out or that he had dressed up as and impersonated a transvaal police officer to evade detection and then one theory put forward is best captured. Churchill's own words quote. Finally it was agreed that I had never left. Pretoria I had it appeared changed clothes with a waiter and was now hiding in the house of some British sympathizer in the capital and quote. But as we all know now the truth was much simpler. Churchill had escaped by simply jumping over a wall when no one was looking he then walked out of town slowly as to not attract any attention and then jumped on a train for a few hours in the night before. Jumping hoping off-again to search for water. And so they're churchill was still wandering alone in the darkness trying trying to figure out how he could possibly make it all the way to Portuguese east Africa with all the trains and the country shut down and the whole country seemingly looking king for him as you can probably imagine hope was slowly fading for him in his own words once again painting the scene for us as he roamed the Velde in the night trying to figure out what to do next quote. Leaving the railroad. I fell into bogs and swamps and brush through high grass dripping with do that I was drenched to the waste. had been able to take little exercise during my months imprisonment and I was soon. I'm tired out with walking as well as from want of food and sleep. I felt very miserable and quote Churchill then states that at one point in order to avoid wearing himself out completely he quote lay down in a ditch to sleep he then continues a quote. I was nearly at the end of my tether. But then suddenly after he awoke and continued handed his trek eastward through the darkness of the countryside. Something in the distance caught his eye. Something was glowing on on the horizon. At first it appeared to be a fire of some sort but Churchill couldn't be sure from the distance that he was at so of course he kept walking toward it to get a better look and as he got closer after realizing what it actually was. He stopped to consider his options and this appraisal was grim. He had no food no water her no sleep no train to hop on and he was still a couple hundred miles between where he stood at that moment and true freedom in short he had no options except the one that now stood before him just a short distance away and so having no other choice in his estimation and no doubt saying to himself once again to your La dos Sir Winston Churchill rolled the dice. He stepped forward and decided to go for it and let the chips of fate. It fall where they may be picking up

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Alcatraz closed - March 21, 1963

This Day in History Class

06:55 min | 1 year ago

Alcatraz closed - March 21, 1963

"This episode is brought to you by GS K. No, two cancers are the same. That's why GS K R oncology. Scientists are working on personalized treatments. One way we design these new medicines is by harnessing patient's own immune system to target and destroy tumors. And by creating new combinations of medicines. That work better together, we hope to transform cancer treatment for patients in the future. Hyde air, welcome to this day in history class where we fifth through the artifacts of history. Seven days a week today is March twenty first twenty nineteen. The day with March twenty first nineteen sixty three after nearly thirty years of operation. The infamous Alcatraz prison closed on its tiny rocky island in San Francisco Bay Alcatraz. Federal penitentiary was notorious for its rough conditions the big name criminals it held and the inability to escape it before Alcatraz island became a federal prison in nineteen thirty four. It was home to a military prison. President Millard Fillmore signed an order that the island be set aside for military use in eighteen fifty and soon after a fortress was built on the island. During the civil war confederate sympathizers. Privateers people accused of treason were imprisoned in fort Alcatraz, the prison also held native Americans who had resisted the government and later conscientious objectors in nineteen oh nine inmates built a new sale house hospital this hall and other buildings on the island creating a new prison complex that was completed in nineteen twelve Alcatraz island with its strong cold. Currents was the perfect place for a prison because nobody could attempt escape and succeed or make it out alive. So in nineteen thirty three the army handed Alcatraz over to the US Justice department which needed somewhere to put criminals deemed, especially dangerous. San Francisco citizens weren't thrilled about having a federal prison. So close to the city though. But the Justice department insured people that I learned was secure. And after construction to increase the security of the facility Alcatraz open into lie. Nineteen thirty four. There were usually about two hundred fifty prisoners in contrast each prisoner had a separate sell about nine by five feet and seven feet high. And there was about one guard every three prisoners James a Johnston. The first warden at the prison who was there until nineteen forty eight with strict and ruthless. Radio's and newspapers were off limits. And most of the time there was silence. In the early years when prisoners could only talk with each other during meals recreational time, they would even dump the water out of their toilets to be able to speak to each other through the piping. Executions were not performed at Alcatraz, but a little over a couple of dozen people did die. Some were murdered some committed suicide in some died from illnesses. Anytime a few hundred civilians lived on the island. Families of the guards that lived on the island had a convenience store so to shop in bowling alley. But a boat did run to the mainland several times a day prisoners Alcatraz where mostly inmates from other institutions who were violent are prone to escape ING and needed to be transferred to a maximum security prison. But when you think of Alcatraz, you probably think of the well known criminals who did time in the prison gangster, Al Capone with locked up in contrast from nineteen thirty four to nineteen thirty nine after he continued to run his criminal operations while incarcerated in Atlanta. Prohibition era, gangster, George machine gun Kelly spent seventeen years in contrast. Crime boss, James Whitey Bolger was an albatross for three years and plenty of people also attempted to escape from the prison in some got farther than others. In nineteen Forty-five. John Kyle's worked at the loading dock, and he stolen army uniform and walked into an army light that he thought was headed for San Francisco, but is destination was angel island. And he was caught when he got there. None of the fourteen attempts were successful though. Five people are considered missing in drowned the rock as Alcatraz was known closed on Thursday, March twenty first nineteen sixty three Alcatraz closed mainly because it was so expensive to operate and the facilities were deteriorating to the point where it would be unfaithful for people in it. It would take a four million dollars in five years to repair. So prisoners were sent to a new prison built in Marion Illinois. Frank weatherman was the last prisoner to board a boat to leave Alcatraz a group of native Americans occupied the island in the late nineteen sixties and. Early seventies saying it was their rightful land until authorities forced them off Alcatraz is now a tourist destination. I'm Jeff coat in. Hopefully, you know, a little more about history today than you did yesterday. And if you wanna learn more about Alcatraz, I would highly recommend the movie starring Nicolas Cage called the rock. I'm just kidding. That doesn't have anything to do with Alcatraz history. But you can still leave us. A message at TD h c podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If there are any upcoming days in history that you really like me to cover on the show. Give us a shout on social media. Thanks for showing up. We'll meet here again tomorrow. Jerry Lee Lewis. Sid vicious incurred. Kobe also AB wine-house Johnny cash and more disgraced rock and roll. True crime podcast stories about musicians getting away with murder behaving very badly. Available now posted by me. Jake Brennan, you can listen to disgrace them on the iheartradio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Wide World of Dougs episode 1: Doug Day Afternoon with Amy Miller

Doug Loves Movies

1:02:36 hr | 3 months ago

Wide World of Dougs episode 1: Doug Day Afternoon with Amy Miller

"Hey Doug Benson here. I've got a brand. New podcast called wide world of Doug's. Here's the first episode, but to hear more pretty pleased, subscribing spotify apple podcasts or wherever you get year podcasts, you know the deal. Hey everybody welcome to? Yet, another podcasts from Doug Benson, a teamed up with my friend Doug Millard who. have standing by right now in Santa Fe Doug. Allow DB how you doing buddy. I'm doing good I'm excited to agrout on this new venture with you where? We're going to try to find all the best. Doug's in the world and talk to them and but mostly joke around and have fun, and we'll have a special guests. Every episode and today is no exception in addition to the two dogs that are hosting the show. We're GONNA be joined by our friend. Amy Miller Yeah. Or just GONNA thing up. We're just GONNA set the table. If will and you know told people what to expect from this podcast. It's funny because you said there's GonNa be a lot of jokes, but I thought this whole time. It was going to be a very serious podcast about Doug's. I wish we'd discuss. I figure you know since you are a stand up comedian, you could probably make the adjustment. And starting next week. We're have new episodes every week and on each episode. We're going to try to get a different Doug. From, all walks of life. To appear with us in. Discuss what it's like having the name Doug! Living as a doug. It's not a name that really pop through stands out. It's not the worst name you can have, and it's certainly not the best. So the people saddled with the name Doug they have to. Prove themselves. Saddled is a good word. I mean Douglas's cool I mean it's. It sounds distinguished which you know, neither of us are atal. Operate. So they should. They should looked at us as babies and went. Will these guys are GonNa? Walk around smoking cigarettes with a holder. Well Yeah. It's like you know the word. Douglas has been around forever, but yeah, who's who cut off the less at what point in history? And went with Doug because I feel like Douglas Doug. Just lose all the distinguishment like right away you distinguish. That's why some a holes like on. WIKIPEDIA DB or so they. Were their name will be listed as Douglas in quotes Doug a dead their last name. The nickname. So six. Me Up because I never understood any of those I. Don't Know How you get dick out of Richard although most of them that I've met are. It's just weird. How people just have to shorten names all the time? Yeah. But yeah that. Whoever that I douglas was cut it to Doug. Just kinda ruined it, you know. It was somebody that knows that I think he did it. Himself called me. I'm sick of being taken seriously. Please call me Doug from now on. Doug Yeah. It's just such A. It's such a weird name once you've lopped off that last part. I used to have I used to say in my act to, too. Little laughter, usually the I'd say it's true. I'm Douglas. I have no doug. Didn't make any. A non sequitur I couldn't figure out any way to really keep it in the act. But we arguably joined every week by professional comedian person. Who Will you know just sort of be there to be a? You know the non-drug point of view. To just sit there and just chip away at A. Professional panel. Yeah. So Joy us today I'm so excited I. Did already say this by repeating myself. I think you did a little bit. I did say already about that. She's going to be here. We're just GONNA. Talk thugs and I'm very excited about gauge of the theme song. a commissioning at I'm pretty happy with how it turned out Hey. Hey, doug sorry to interrupt producer Ryan here. Our guests has arrived. So let students thing. Let's play that game song. Get going. Would? You'd think aby. Stupendous. I was like it needs to be meddle in the vocals need include a child. I'm definitely. That's where we are. I mean it just gets you. The mood to talk about Doug's does. Up! So Doug's in rock and roll. Oh Man! Did we today? Give the wrong title. Episode New Different Title I'm about to get dug out. Let's at least use just have guests on the show and try to think of a better title to show. Navy! It's good I miss you guys. Definitely miss you. It's that we can't get together a person, but at least we can do this I know. Yet see you. What are you guys wearing? I Bet I bet doug DVD could identify what I'm maybe wearing what my team is. Really. I wore the same pants the other day. Oh shoot. I'm wearing. A Nicholas cage covered pants and a Nicholas cage. T shirt. By Nicholas Cage on the t shirt has a duck for body for I. Don't know what reason. DOC, not, a, Doug. Do you think. Maybe he was Nicholas Cage Free Duck. Oh? Yeah Oh yeah. You just saw the mystery. That's been lingering for like months. Most ducks. Oh, cage free, aren't they? Life of a duck, welcome back everybody to wide world of ducks. Decided changed the whole point of view of this podcast midstream. and. Amy. What do you stand on ducks? Terrified. Yeah we had pet duck says a kid. It wasn't me. Well, my mom like bought some baby ducks for Easter with is cute in that moment like in the little basket you know and when they're. They became adults and the boy one. Murdered vicar one in cold blood. And then. And then he refused to leave our property. We still have scars I have a duck bite scar on my body. My God twenty twenty so now I tell. So. Yeah, we made the right call because it was this close to wide world of duck surreal and we were like we're we're. We're both named Doug so maybe let's stick to that. How long the two of you known each other as standing up comedians? What do you think maybe like Kim Issues? You think yeah, yeah, I think so well. I I'm coming up on my tenth anniversary. So maybe more like eight, but. Their friends in the last few years. And I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. Did we meet at that? Portland Brench? Show maybe. The one that I was running. Yeah. That was such a fun. Show our, thank you so much. I guess he lives the real shows. Remember real comedy shows Brunch dive bar. Would for that right now and? yeah, there's lots of interesting venues there in Portland. Of course, that's where you and I met a knee because I rolled through A. Helium with DOUG LOVES MOVIES IN OUR BOY. I think it was Sean Jordan probably. We had so much fun and the rest is her story. Fits. The rest is your story I'll just object in it. But yeah. What's at a long time now? Yeah, we'll douglas movies has been going for maybe thirteen years so maybe you might have met Doug Mallard. N me both. Within a few a year or two of each other maybe. I did feel like my doug number went up. There was a spike. Around two thousand twelve. Oh my God. I was watching Corona virus taskforces morning talking about there's been a doug spike. Now, the country. PODCAST though? Exactly that's. Coming in by. Name an issue so. Thighs are on the right side of things and. so. How many times we've I always joke about it with you, amy. But how many times do you think you've actually done Douglas Movies? Oh, including the at home ones I don't. Like? Thirty or something twenty five. Aches. Aches! Todd. I just. Think. That it's a lot in that know, but it's also. as much as I, love amy. It's just also the number of actual episodes. So much more than that. So I think your guest made is a little. A Lo. Side may be, but I I can't be absolutely sure. Maybe so I'll do. A SEARCH Say. Several different places. So, that's why yeah. We've done it on the road and stuff so You know since Doug and I both know you. We're excited to have you be the first. Guest on the show and the first non doug guest. We thought you know we. Take one episode to just chat with you. About what we're doing here. And then Kinda set up. What's going to happen and then next week? is going to be our very first doug. Already have a lead on a pretty good dog in. I WANNA. Do you WANNA. Tell us who it is mellowed. well we've got a few good leads, but yeah, but what's the one? Yesterday you were like. Yeah. We gotTA talk about. Doug Aldrich from Wait, wait, wait, wait wait you know who that is, amy. Whitesnake. Done just. I didn't. I forgot to tell you. Doug I like to make everything into a game show also GonNa ask you knew Doug Aldridge was 'cause 'cause. He's obviously a top doug if he's a guitarist in Whitesnake. But also kind of a visible. WHO's the lead guy in Whitesnake? Coverdale. Same Coverdale. Yeah I'll be quick Sir I really have no so doug. Miller doing research on a guy that's also in Whitesnake. David Coverdale. Enlisted the lead singer. But The guy's got beautiful hair this Doug Eldridge. Yeah I know I don't know that's really. Selling Point But. We've got his phone number. We're GONNA REACH OUT AND Try To. Try to make it happen with that dude. And we also. 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We're back with more of the wide world of Doug's. There's so many dogs out there and our guests Amy Miller. Knows at least two of them because she knows both of us. But also, amy, could you just tell us? About the Doug's in that you've encountered in your life. Anyone's that you can remember that you know famous. or infamous in famous. Infamous you. More infamous than. It I think all the dogs that I really like are comedians. which is. I guess that makes sense and every single other one I ever met is terrible. Non Comedian Doug's. Oh well. Yeah, maybe the maybe the comedian. Doug's are like kind of forced into light comedy like they're forced into you know. Making people laugh and stuff, because otherwise they're just go unnoticed. Yeah or be. They just get bitter and angry because they're like. Nobody cares. I feel like Doug is like a name where you're almost forced to have a sense of humor to be taken seriously, which is ironic? And if you don't, there's something so wrong like you don't have that. We know that your name Duck. Yeah, because you'll also because. A lot and if you can't. Think that's at least a little bit funny. What's wrong with you? I don't know. I am a bit about dogs which doug seeing You once very sweetly came to see me at the punchline on a night off that I don't I know comedians ever done that ever. And in the in the two thousands, there was like a scourge in the bay area of Doug's managing, various restaurants and bars. Said I? Will Yeah. Thin my brother worked in and yet they were all bad just and so in this bit when you know around the country I've often asked like if there are dogs in the room and I have to say it's pretty rare. It's maybe you know been. You know less than five times that someone. At least admitted to being doug. Yeah. There's a lot of dogs in the shadows. Lurking, Exit. You GotTa Watch out for the Doug State. Yeah and then one manager I had was just such a just a fucking little weasel. Doug, you know just like. Bad Shore. I, you know I like short guy. There's good short. There's also bad fattened. Good fat, you know. I'm good fat, but Russell Crowe is like co quote. I was. JUST SO SNEAKY! Super misogynous descend these. Little children would come into the diner like suck on the ketchup bottles like they were bottles, Oregon, but then back on the table, but like never reprimand them off the worst. Is. Perfect I love it. We could get him on the of. Still manages that Diner Doug So. Yes, you go, oh! We'll ask about the ketchup bottles for sure that is wild. also one thing I'm looking forward. To, what this show is that? I do it not in in the media, and then I've also actually known for some reason Doug is actually a fairly frequent name for a for black men. Yeah like we can actually have people of Color I. Mean we're not GonNa have any Hispanic people name Doug. Because I know that that doesn't exist because in Spanish class in high school. My teachers like what's your name and I'm like Doug and he goes well. I get you know there's no Spanish word for that. Had He goes. What's your middle name and I'm like Steven he goes okay. You're Esteban in you. Why never learned Spanish when he would call an Esteban I was the last person to know that he was calling on meek. My High School Spanish teacher called me and Miller high life. So Oh my God I play. Years is a little more professional. What does that teacher up to these days? Send your La Desma you know he had? He loved the outfit. You because he would do head to Toe Garfield sweatpants no way. And, he called you Miller highlighted. ICON. Might be some Hispanic will take drugs. I don't know I. I I know there's going to be like maybe a lot of black guys who started as Douglas and then shortened to doug or Dougie. And you'RE GONNA get a fair amount of Asian guys, I think yes. Yeah, that's true. That's true and the I it. Seems like the world is sports has led Duds Matt also probably falls in line with why we became. COMEDIANS is kind of like those are a couple of different pats. Doug could take to your. Attention is to be good at sports or to tell jokes. You know, Mommy. What can doug still? Doug make it in this world in. Why is you give me the damn name? I should try to get Doug Marsh from Celtics. Goals that new album is incredible would be amazing. ACAI WELLS? Ills. March. Yeah, he's Great. He's one of the best guitar like. These thought of like incredible yeah, as a an amazing guitarist, but as a new album of Daniel Johnson covers. And I saw I saw I saw Delta Spill time I saw him live was at bomber. Shoot in Seattle and they stuck them on an afternoon. I think it was in A. The key arena which has kind of notorious for not having the greatest. and. It did not sound good. So I on I've listened to eight albums, so I know they're good, but it was. That was unfortunate, but if I also find his name's duck. I would've tried harder. Better venues but also looks like a dog. That would be bad and I. He's such an incredible guitar player, but I don't think he gets all the shine. He deserves because A. Like a you know he's not like a front man looking guy. Yes, L. People like forget, and also he doesn't own it. He's not like I'm one of the best guitar players. My Name's Doug. Because of the Doug name as Subdued and those. Guys the Sadun. I saw them once. A probably fifteen years ago at stubb's Barbecue and Austin. And they closed on Leonard. Skinner Free Bird, which doesn't go with anything else like their actual catalog of music. And you you wouldn't expect it, but they I mean. It was like you're seeing free bird in the heyday live. It was insane. It was like kind of hysterical in a way, but it was so good, it was really funny. Oh Yeah I lost my mind. Because, they're so mad sold. It always yells free bird like thinking. Areas thing to request when a band has their own music. So that must have made that one guy so happy when. He happened. Yeah, but that's true. We. We definitely have some. You know some musician possibilities, but let me ask you this Amy Miller. Ever. Doug I am never dated a doug. No, not even one date actually. No, no, not even one day. The only dogs that I have really adored have been Canadians and gay guys. I don't date those categories of. while. One category doesn't date me. That's, but that's a great thing to ask to wonder about is gay. Doug is. Is there any evidence one way or another? The Doug would be. I guess I guess there isn't I. Guess. It's just another name that you know when they put it on you at Earth. You don't. Be Aired, you know. Or not yet. Based on that. Might be gay. We should name him Doug I. Don't feel like that's the thing I. Hate About Doug and you can back me up if you doug, is it? It's hard for people to understand what you're saying when you have to say your name to them in a loud situation. Like in a bar or something if they need your name for your credit card or whatever? It just sounds like in a loud situation. Sounds like Oh yeah Omagh. I also I also. Book And maybe it's just me I. Maybe I have terrible handwriting, but if I'm spelling my name Gee if I put the little line coming down from the you, it can sometimes look like Dong. It turns into An. And that has happened many times I've been like. I'm not upset I would go see a comedian named Dong Millard. In a second, I actually thought I was coming on while world of dogs to. A hard to say, amy, we need you to come on podcast and talk about all the dogs you've. How much time do you have? We have never seen a dog dung. Really thought about it. I don't think that's another thing. I guess they can't know when they name you. How how big your junk's going to be, but I don't feel like there's a big Dick Doug's. Kind of an idea I have seen a lot of baby penises oddly. You can tell really. For sure. Also there is a Canadian. It's inappropriate if I say it, but there's a comedian. We all mel, tell you after who has a child I have cared for. That has the biggest child Venus I've ever seen. and His. Dad is like notorious also for I've never seen it, but. It's pretty. World of dungs. They went from ducks to Doug's to Deng. Citizen I presume will go back to Doug's. Del. How? Well that's what happens to me. A lot is when somebody tries to write down Doug. They add age for some reason at the end. I'm always like okay. Laws. Just think on my name is Joe. Is Your Coffee Bread boy? It's weird because you don't see a lot of dogs, you don't hear about a ton of dogs so growing up any doug that I would come across that there like a Doug Smith played for Dallas Mavericks and I grew up in Dallas and he was like. I think he was like bench player. He wasn't like a star, but I rooted for him so hard and then kind of silly when I saw donuts dealt with Joe in it with the word Doug I was so excited for whatever reason, maybe because stupid. That's a really like doughnuts, so maybe that was. Good. Yeah. I. Get you know. Get an occasional instagram. Photos sent my way of when when like signs you know, says donuts and the H. is out. Yeah be doug nuts. Seen any. I mean I enjoyed that one I, still the one I enjoy the most is what I drive by a black angus steakhouse in the G. is out. Just, to childers to know tonight, laugh at. I guess amy be weird. If you saw you didn't see any Doug, dogs, but you did see some doug balls for some reason. I don't know how that would work. In you, know someone cracking me I zipper thick. and Go. That game. You guys are probably it's probably before your time I wanted to talk about how 'cause I had this idea. These to be song. Really Catchy that they would sing for armor hotdogs. Oh about all the different types of kids that like armor hot dogs. Hot Dogs, that, yeah. Yeah and so I thought oh I'll just change you know. It says the word kids. I'll just change it to Doug's and we'll have like a a cute little song to go with her show. Eh then realized what a weird ass! This is the original. This is what they sing in that commercial. Fat Kids Skinny kids kids who on rocks, tough kids SEC- kids even kids with chicken cal hotdogs. Armor our hot dogs. The dogs kids love to buy now. There's so much going on there. I mean that they come out of the gate with fat kids is like wait a second? Pot Dogs here. It seems like seems very evil. Dead Climb on rocks. Okay, you know they're getting the kids out there doing some stuff, but then that the word Sissy is ascribed to just a group of kids who are sissies. Commercial for hot. And the chicken pox things you'd think. Maybe don't feed your kid. That's going through. Chicken talks a hot dog for lunch. Well. Healthier, it's a had it and then there. Is Not thing you're not supposed to get again on the air. Yeah, you go mystery solved. I think that's how it used to be. I think now you can get it again at the like you know super chickenpox or something. Just don't get it at all. Usually, but are do seem pretty dumb. We all got it once, yes. Yeah. Like chicken pox scars. and. Chicken pox duckie. We're going to be so off our tattoos soon. God No! Have, you ever had any like friends that are like a friend. That's not you know like. Obviously, we know some comedians named Doug Doug Stanhope, but right never. Have you ever hung out with another doug? That wasn't because you're both standups. Well I was named after to Doug's. My Dad had is he had two best friends name Doug and high school. They had US pretty early just after high school and his saying was I never met a Doug I didn't like. Me Doug. But. My joke is that that's a lot of pressure for a baby. Immediately you know. I better live up to those other drugs. So? There's obviously that my namesake and it was weird. One one of the namesakes I hadn't seen. Probably since childhood I saw him a couple of years ago at a wedding. and. He came up to us and his wife with a speech therapist. My wife's a speech therapist. We were making similar jokes. It was really weird, really bizarre like a Bizarro Doug. Mirror thing, but outside a hand there was one dug in high school. It also had a pretty good sense of humor, but Not a lot of Doug's outside of the again yeah, I think we all know several comics named Doug. But. Yeah, not a lot of like a non comedian. Doug's out there that I've interacted with. All right well I have been trying to think of any other Doug's I. Know that are. A comic and I haven't. Haven't come up with anybody. We, don't we don't befriend each other I think I knew. Note that guy's name was Edward. I feel like a lot of people keep Douglas either I like the name Douglas but I don't think I've ever met one that. Really hung on to it. A classy for sure, and I think part of the reason. We feel that way because Douglas is such a great last name for like Kirk. Douglas Michael Douglas Frederick Douglass Yeah Yeah So. I think growing up like your parents would yell Douglas and it just seems like a thing that stay away from because it's just a mad, yell. Very funny word. It feels like someone's just trying like. Hastily Feminizing Doug. Glass. Duck, we tried Doug at and we just didn't like him. By the way I google the female version of Doug just a little bit ago, and it says a girl in red comes, and I have no idea what that means. So maybe somebody listening can. I send it to to DB it says it is to training made up for the personal taste, but maybe appeal to you. A girl in red is correct. I don't understand that what does that mean? Now. Dougal doing, what is how you know, it's just couldn't compete female. Doug it's just not a thing. It just made up. Just starts talking about some girl in red. Yeah, it's it's it's. A girl in R. E. A. D. Like none of it makes sense. I'm so confused. Third how Rei d? Maybe I'm just illiterate. Up trying to translate these symbols online. Guys, but not very good. All right, so let's Let's take toward spitballing Know Doug's. That you know we should be? Reaching out to Starting with. Have you guys seen those commercials for Liberty Mutual. Yeah with with the EMU and Doug. Eight. That's see. That's the thing about Doug is. It's often like a comedy name like we just say Doug people immediately. No, Oh, that's some sort of mild mannered. New nerd of some kind you know and. These these commercials. Drive me crazy because it's you know this play this like exciting detective. Seventies detected music. You know they're like it's the EMU in. The. Doug just seems like so tossed off, but he does does all the talking and all these commercials. Sitting there doing nothing. Funny because he moves the joke part, but doug the doug part in that sentence feels like the punchline, just the word duck. That's the thing is fucking. Emailed emus the funny part. You know there used to be a guy that would go on TV. All the time with puppet EMU in the joke was every time. The public enriches start attacking him, and even though he's operating, the puppets is really funny. Puppet. Were just you know start? Biting him during him to the ground and but his name was Rod. and. The Act was called Rod Hull and his EMU. That's where the laugh is an email. But this these newcomers was the new and Doug, and then, of course. Doug is like way too into insurance, trying to get people insured. Insurance cop something. Confused. So could get that guy. He's probably like a UC be person. Yeah. That's what I'm saying is like. Of Sega interested in an a person like him, who is saddled down with being called Doug by strangers or the rest of? So, he is essentially a doug now. He's a door Doug. For. or He's an actor named Doug who they cast. Hasn't shot me. He looks like it Doug I. Don't know. But you guys do a few months ago. I had an audition for a TV show that I was like so excited to get auditioned for and so super into it and you know it felt like they were like reaching out for me specifically, though you know, they always bring in a million actors and. They sent. They send me the sides and the characters name is Doug and I didn't get it. Sorry. My God Perfect. Characters name is your name and they bring you in for the part. They know what they're doing right, don't they know? I've got this part well. Did you bring your e Mu? Thing I had no idea that. You know the the guy who ended up getting the part he did bring an email. That's how we got the part. Like, no I just thought I was auditioning to be. A winning new I didn't know it brings out and is going to bring one to every audition henceforth. Who wouldn't want to meet new? Right. I would get so much work all right. Who who wants to go next? Who's got another doug? We should try to talk to. Go forward, amy. You have when you're thinking of. Is Dj Doug, pounds, name actually dug. His. Name in the name Doug founded to Jeez. Must Be Doug Right. You I started to be yeah yeah. He is he was on Murray funny. It is Doug. Yeah? He was a guests on Douglas Movies one time when we did it outside at A. Music Festival. Up in a near Vancouver and Pemberton music festivals what is called and you know as a terrible idea to begin west Major Douglas Movies. Outside at a music festival. At that debate batteries worse, you know. He seemed like a very nice guy. Dj Doug Bound, but you know we thought fun for him. To have is like. Is Dj setup and he can do drops. He can make funny noises throughout the show. But like unless you're really like in sync with the funny noise guy and you're trying to do a show, and they just drop it in funny noises, and you're at a festival or none of the audience really cares about if there's any funny noises being compensated. Yeah. But I'd I'd like to. You know he's. He's a cool dude. I'd like to. I'd like to bring him on the show. Talk to him about about. I got into a country artist named dougie pool. And I grade I think you'd actually really like. Amy is got some kind of like. Haunting kind of almost site country music. It's really good, but. Out Yeah I think you'd be a good guest. I don't always from, but he has a song called. Los Angeles. Got L. A. and the title is going called vaping on a job. That is great. But I think he'd be cool. Guess, what's his name? Dougie poole. P., O. L. E. P.. O. L. E. Echo. And Anti. It's interesting that he's. Yeah going by Dougie I think that's that's pretty unique. Yeah, I mean Kaz. Add just leads to especially nowadays. Just lots of teach me how to Dougie talks frogs. Hey. There's somebody we could get the guy from Cali Swag district. Rotate Song. Spell like Dougie, fresh or dislike, dougie. Which were oh? Dougie, Pu Yeah. dougie I I Dug It wasn't even thinking I was even thinking middle initial on that I was just thinking Dargie. dougie pool all right I'll. I'll I'll check yeah. He's a grammar. Yeah, into that Doug. Do you remember when we went and talked to Tom Papa and fortune beams. Burnett. SIRIUSXM on. Their show, Netflix's a joke radio, or whatever it's called I, yeah! She, I recently saw it because binge watching a TV show from a few seasons back that I just never noticed I really like it a lot. It's called life in pieces. And it's a it was a CBS Sitcom that lasted for like four seasons night. Never seen any of it. It Stars Colin Hanks and A few other funny people, and so I was watching it at fortune shows up. As it's obnoxious woman that said a blind date with this guy and. AMMO. Her name is Dougie. Great. So they just call her Dougie of odd. She keeps socks. She says it a few times I just like it's so funny and I think she mentioned that has when we were on with our rate than I. She was like I played Dougie. Wasn't familiar with the show suits talk about then when I when she popped up on there, and I saw was very delighted, but also she's in anytime. She acts in something. So I mean I her in all areas, but she's so fucking good like. The. Did you guys see office Christmas Party yes? She's a star. He's so funny my God her scenes with. A quick Jennifer. Aniston, 'cause she's like a driving a new Bertha Jennifer's in a Jennifer's name in the in the movie is Carol. And the way fortune, says Carol and the way she constantly says because, don't you? Ever gets hits a hold of your name. Use it too much. But. She just keeps going Carol. Talks already so funny, so aiding Shay says is like it's very natural like all her roles anything she plays. With Jennifer Aniston as dead, you doug. Oh? That's true. Very good point. To us to Kevin Bacon Yeah. What's her fortunes seen? is in the you know. The outtakes from it are in the end credits because she said so many funny things use. And I didn't. I didn't have the out takes her alternate. Take some friends I got I got two times to do it in the time. Jennifer did it right was the one that used. Like the I take I destroyed it like like the audience laughs for way too long my line. Kinda threw her off so did it again, and so of course irregular laugh because they already earns A. mcadoo got her part, and that's the take years. Though the life of a doug. Really. Really something. Are the two of you familiar with A. Dog The puck. Of course now now I've missed this. You gotTA. Check it out then. I'd Plug Doug. Who is just adorable? Dog named Doug. Just a good name for a dog. It's amazing I. Think I think the as like four million instagram followers right. Any I think so I I mean new immediate. Follow for me now. Do. You think that With owner of Doug the pug be, somebody would wanNA talk to i. think absolutely a great idea. Yeah, I mean. Talat! Business is very interesting, those guys. Money off their dogs, she yeah. I don't know if Doug Miller is monetize yet, but he has an adorable dog. That has an instagram account. We really just use it to give money back to shelter that we found her at. Ace Yeah. We sell calendars every year I should send you. I'll send you guys both one if we have some here Yeah, it's It's my dog's Kenny at the luckiest penny on instagram. She has forty three thousand dollars, which is way many more than I have. He I mean it isn't. It isn't as I am a jealous man, but I'm just going to ride my dog's coattails to fame, but. Why is this dog promoting an album taping? Did? Could you may be throw in a few posts on that on your dogs? Oh Yeah. I really so could you promote? We could definitely be yeah. We were just actually talking about. It came up right before I got on my wife Flynn. On her like facebook. Memories or whatever it popped up a year ago today that penny! You called her to the stage on Doug loves. MOVIES AT UCLA Like. The pictures are insane because she looked like she was born ready to just be out there and perform for the audience. Durable, but yeah, I haven't used it too much to promote my stuff, but we yeah we could definitely promote this I. Just didn't promote my own stuff. 'cause my albums are called parts of foreign parts to and all that it just didn't feel right for a dog audience. Here's what you do. Is You promote the PODCAST tag thug? The pug Animal, oh. Yeah I like it I mean because we're going to be animal-friendly podcast because we both love and. Know, we're not gonNA hurt any animals on the show. Yeah I the least I could do not hurt animals on this podcast. I saw cut animal right before we started recording. Mike. Catt killed something it's it's fine. It was. Crazy like that. Was it a duck. I wish? I mean the things your cat is killing. The you don't know about is just. It's crazy. Now I always know about him. You can't always brings it to you like and presents it. Who makes sure I know somehow the. Ace It's very sad. People are going to be mad at me on sorrow told you that Mike has a bell. She truly doesn't like. Kill that many things with the bell and so I. Think I don't know if you're a bird in. You've got a old fat cat with the bell. Maybe it was your time. I don't know but. A lot of put a bell on it, though why don't want the birds to die? Yeah, that's so nice of you i. mean can go outside. The cats go outside naked alone night. That's death march like that's why. There's cats all over Disneyland that you don't see when you're there that they live there because. There's there would just be you know. You can't have rats that Disneyland, so they'd rather just have a bunch of wild cats, the hide from the public during the day, and then at night they go around killing all the rats. Yeah, maybe I'll send her their. Work Vacation for your cat? Have you, ABC ever had I live my brother Awhile back and he had his cat Willie Nelson It was great it. He just passed away recipes really, but sat right. The cats are yeah, Willie here and. The Internet yet today, and the reason, he was named Willie Nelson by the way, my my sister-in-law. Really wanted to keep this cat whose kind of coming by and my brothers on the fence, and it was raining one day, and she just started calling Willie Nelson she was like you wouldn't Willie Nelson. Be Out in the rain if it was really Willie Nelson he's like no, so they brought him in and. But have you ever had he? One time brought in like dot DB said Doug said. presented us this bird and we're like. What do we do this in our apartment? And we went to move it, and it was definitely still alive. It was just really stunned in his startled us so much. It was crazy. That's the worst because like I've got a fucking. Finish off this. Like some sort of person from the sopranos host. Yes I mean she usually presents it today. She was just like screaming in the backyard so I knew there was something very proud of him than I went out there, and then all the birds were all screaming. Is They were like watching? It was very sad and sorry. Everyone is a budgetary. But she ate it and so she's not coming back inside for at least a week. We just talked about this being like Tetra, now we're just talking about animals getting aired sorry. Does lots of cat lovers. We could count on the cat lovers to know that that's just the cats of just. That's what they you know. That's what they do their dignity. Yeah sustained doing his thing Don Johnson kill birds if dogs can get their shit together. Yes you I? Mean dogs chase other animals never really actually get catch them and kill them. NOPE! Every night. Our dog penny were in Santa Fe right now for quarantine, and there's lizards than rabbits all around. Countless Times a day she jason. She has not caught one thing. Not even close. okay so. What about you know we love have been women on the show we'll have. been on every week along with our Doug guests, but There's A. Comedian named Laurie. I Dunno are. where I found out about her, maybe somebody tweeted. By your. Last name, dogs will that's I'm just search just throwing it out there because you know we WanNa have interesting guests that we want to house guests every week. Sometimes Duggan I could just chill with whoever but. Amy Amy mentioned the Holy Grail of Doug Dougie fresh. She did yeah. That data would yeah when we're having the DOUGIE. How do the dougie pool debate on how he spelled it out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like dougie fresh, yes! To me. He feels like at least until someone else convinces me otherwise. He feels like the holy grail of to me. He's the Doug that certainly has been referenced the most to me. You know. Like you say your name's Doug, you know square white guys love to go eat for ED. Yeah within minutes. You don't know this person, but they will call you. Dougie fresh and have an homes calls calls me that every time I see him. which is neither here nor there? Square white guys now. Per Kulwa and I was already. Thinking goes the what I was saying. It decided to go ahead. Throw him under the bus because that bus is. Is GonNa. Decide hit him and stop. Island. Man. Trap Four. Doug name's Doug e fresh is number one. Then you think Dougie, Doug, probably. would be a great guest and then. honorary Doug's doogie from Doogie howser. That came out the I was Doogie for awhile. And I still get that on occasion and then Doug Funny. You know because of the TV show Doug. Yeah void, so we were. We had spoken on one of the shows. We went on to promote its show about how The Voice of Doug on on the doug cartoon is Billy West. Right yeah, yeah, and yeah. Into, Priority Oakland interesting it'd be interesting to try to talk to, and also I'm saying all this because. I want people the listeners to be engaged in especially. If you're a dog, you should reach out to us, but if you know any doug especially if you have access like a phone, number and everything. To. Get us to Dougie fresh or Dougie Doug. Or Billy West. Yeah. I. Don't know any of these people, but we can. You know we could try to figure it out. John Work Together, it's a casting. Call for all Doug's yeah. Amy. How much of a follower are you of? I assume Doug knows nothing about her. How much do you know about Arianna grown day? a medium amount. Yeah, you hear about Steph. That's going on with her every once in a while, right? Her tour manager and best friend. Is Twenty five years old. and His name is Doug Middlebrook. Yeah Yeah, I thought that was a real good one. If we could get that guy. To come on. 'cause I'm a fan. I think she's very talented, so. That, he's twenty five and. Somehow she trusts him and he runs her stuff for tour. it's pretty incredible. Awesome at that age. Yeah, acting now, right? I see, should she? She does spot on impressions. Singing. Singing ones. Talking, she could do her. Jennifer Lawrence is. It's crazy. I. She is so talented and you know her. Pop songs are just the tip of the iceberg that part I I want more of the iceberg I don't like to tip. Don't Lakers songs really I don't find them. Shouldn't have too much shit. We want her. Well, no I mean. They're not for you either, so it's fine. You know I lear-. Yeah no I just think she's crazy talented so whenever she sings a song. I know I I love it, but. I just saw her acting something in those like holy cow. She's so like she's really. REALLY GOOD! I can't think. Things should be quite good at it and and speaking Acting so making There's a great director who a big fan of, but has it become I. Don't think he's known as a great director because you know his name's Doug. His name is Doug Lineman. And I've been a fan ever since He directed swingers and then go and then. Tomorrow Right. He did as a tomorrow Mr and Mrs Smith. The first borne movie. I think the first one, but I the Guy I think he's only made like one movie. That has whatever One of my favorite directors enjoy him a lot. A few weeks ago, you know of course I'm thinking about drugs. In Doug's the book on the show. I just noticed that he's following me on twitter. Yeah so I wrote him a direct message. Haven't heard a word. Come on Doug. Weight which Doug talking to. All the ducks. Dogs just get it together all done. well, this has been really really helpful start. I think I hope everybody that's listened of joys what we've been talking about and where this is going. there's you know so much more to come in the wide world of Doug's. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, you know the spotify or the. There's a bunch of them. Apple. podcast addict. Google play for. yes, stitchers ago! Yeah, there's there's a whole bunch of places now and apparently we don't care anymore. Which one you listen just as long as you listen. That's the main thing. anything you'd like to plug. Amy Miller and thank you again for being the first to come out here freely. Is and so flattered nothing to plug at just love Doug's own. I gotta go follow this Pug. A Oh. Yeah, that's right rear out couple hours of my day. Cute. Yeah I bet to. That dog already has like hundreds of pictures to sort through. Yeah I don't know what I'm doing on my instagram, but man when I go to that page where it's just like. Just random shits looks through they really. They really throw a lot of dogs my way. Yeah, I, guess I just post enough about dogs. They figured out. Wouldn't might some some doggy pictures? Dogs. Must Love, dogs and dogs. And Doug Mallard. FART Safari Three's coming out soon yeah. Amy was one of the recording, so it was very nice of you to come they. Got The one that's coming out now. The Quarantine Kinda threw it off a little bit on. Very funny as ask you to. We need a We need a closing line, Doug. We never really discussed like how we can. Jump Out of this thing at the end. I feel like we had something and then. You say Simpson than I yell on wide, world of dogs. Really did I make it up? No, that sounds good. I don't remember the beginning. Different. Doug Pawn every time. How many you can come up with. That also sound like a closing line. Like another Doug Day afternoon. Another is the first one then. I'll say get ready to play the team Ryan. Thank you, amy thank you doug. It's been a Doug Day afternoon. Got It.

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Short Stuff: More Phrase Origins

Stuff You Should Know

13:09 min | Last month

Short Stuff: More Phrase Origins

"Hey and welcome to the shortstop I'm Josh. There's chuck jury's out there fiddling around somewhere in the Ethernet of the Internet. In whatever and this is short stuff. Let me stop talking. Let's go. Yeah this is something we've done before and we will do again because as everyone knows we like phrase origins I especially love phrase origins. And I think we're doing three today the second one which can be summed up in a single sentence probably. But. We're going to start with a grain of salt take it with a grain of salt buddy. I will take it with a grain of salt because I just ingested some poison. Of No salt won't help that. Oh well according to pliny the elder wouldn't they think that that's where the phrase take this with a grain of salt really finds its origin, and by the way, take something with a grain of salt means that you should be skeptical of what you're about to hear or see or whatever that that there's the this information that you're about to receive is of dubious origin, right? that's that's the current understanding of take it with a grain of salt or a pinch assault or dose of salt. However, you put it. That's the current meaning of it, but they think as far back as. Pliny the elder's naturalists historian that that that's where it finds its origin. That's actually kind of a referential thing to that to a recipe he gave under the Walnut section. Yeah take to dried walnuts to figs and twenty leaves Roo pound them all together. All right with the addition of a grain of salt. Oh, if a person this mixture fasting, he will be proof against poisons for that day. So. If you were, if you thought you were going to be poisoned that day before you eat breakfast eat this concoction that includes a grain of salt and no poison will befall you. Yeah. But here's the deal that explains nothing about this phrase other than he said, the words grain of salt. In his language which was come Galanos Sali's. Because, it's not metaphorical its littoral if you WanNa talk about metaphor. You need to flash forward quite a bit till sixteen forty, seven. Yeah. John. Trap used it in a book called the commentary commentary on old and new testaments Colon boring. Now. I just made that part up. He and he said this is to be taken with a grain of salt. But we still aren't sure what he meant by that. I want to hazard a guess here. I think what John Trap who has a great name by the way what he was saying Is that this the following is very difficult to to hear or it's hard information to swallow. Aka Poisonous. Okay so you would have to take this with a grain of salt. That's my guess. Now, I'm putting this out there everybody because short stuff. I did not go to the trouble of reading John Traps commentary on the old and new testaments income. So it's a guess but man, oh, man, it is a good guess. Yeah. That makes sense and it did pop up since then. But usually again referring to actual grains of salt than in nineteen eight in the. Athem, it's a literary journal. Had this line are reasons for not accepting the authors pictures of early Ireland without many grains of salt which can even make heads or tails of that sentence period? No. But I think they were wailing on the photographer which it's like. Just don't accept the pictures fun of them in the in the magazine. That's like us, criticizing House folks articles that we based episodes on. We'd never do that. No, it'd just be mean but this doesn't and I think this one frustrated me because even that. It still doesn't say where it came from like it or why they started saying grain of salt to mean what they meant metaphorically yes. Because it was terribly written in this how stuff works article Well. Did you find a a reason because I didn't I didn't I didn't just kind of suddenly is like it just appeared and get the impression that the grain of salt is kind of appeared out of nowhere that it was Not appeared out of nowhere that they have kinda traced it back but there's not any real clarification I'll tell you what has a clarification chuck a clear lineage and that is the the phrase close but no cigar. Yeah. This one's easy and we can definitely get this in the next minute and twenty seconds before our break. because. It's super easy in the early twentieth century when you went to these traveling carnivals and they had these rip-off Games where you would throw a ring on a coke bottle or shoot a basketball into a hoop that's barely the size of a basketball which I didn't figure out. So I was way too old right that was a standard hoop gray hair by then I did You're meant to not win those games generally or to come close to spend more money, and that's the whole idea but back then. What was the prize or one of the prizes that you would get? A cigar. That's right. So if you were sitting there throwing, you know doing a ring, toss around some glass bottles and you missed you missed it. You missed you ran out of rings. The Carnival Barker would say close but no cigar no see So that's where the origin comes from or that phrase comes from, which is great because it's a nice tidy package there's no controversy no disputing it and it's just done. It's not like the ugly horrible grain of salt origin and kids. Six Year olds everywhere would go with my never get the cigar and their dad would say here you go son have mine. Great. To take a break. Yeah. I thought that was implied by the pregnant pause. We'll talk about south balls right after this. Relief that's why s game. 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All right chuck talking southpaws and this one's like a neat combination between horrible ugly grain of salt and beautiful perfect close. But no cigar because there's a lot of different ideas that that are competing for the origin that aren't necessarily right. But aren't necessarily wrong either. So there's a lot of great info involved. That's right. and and it Kinda comes down to a couple of sports. South. Paul is has long been linked to boxing. And Baseball Rocky Balboa was a southpaw. No, was he? Yeah I think. So right I don't know I don't pay that close of attention I'm just enthralled by the action you're just all about those muscles. Yeah. Yeah I. Think it was I think it's kind of a deal that he was a southpaw. Okay So you've heard it to be about boxers in baseball, but generally even more specifically it's been associated with pitchers. left-handed pitcher is known as the South Paul. Okay. Yes. Now that's that's the one I've always heard it from never. or No I'm sorry. I was about to say the reverse of the truth I've always heard it from that's. Right the the I've always heard of it being associated with boxing never heard associated with baseball. Okay. Yeah. Baseball pitchers generally it's you know it's an old school term but I've definitely heard it before. So even before necessarily it was involved in boxing or it was involved with boxing. In this act, there was a political cartoon that was referencing boxing and we just didn't realize it They're the earliest one of the earliest mentions of the left hand especially involved in. A punch being called a south southpaw comes from a forty eight editorial cartoon that showed a candidate named Lewis. CASS who is running for the Democrats. He just laid out Zachary Taylor and Taylor's running-mate Millard fillmore. Millard fillmore has a black eye and there's a quote coming from which chuck I think. You'd be really good to read this quote. Kersee? Old. Hoss. What Paul he has given. Does that was one of the Best Millard fillmore impressions. I've ever heard in my life W. O. T. Watt I'm going to bring that back Yep. So Millard fillmore is calling at the very least the punch that Lewis Cass landed on a southpaw. If Not Lewis Cass a southpaw for using his left hand who knows but the idea is southpaw in knocking a person to the ground with your fists associated at least as early as eighteen forty eight at least is politics is concerned. Yeah. There was there were more specific boxing references. There was one in eighteen sixty in a bare knuckle. Fight I guess serve boxing match. pugilists squaring off against one another in other way to put it in the New York herald the reporter David Woods reported that in the ninth round own I'm sorry David Woods was the boxer David. Woods planted his southpaw. Under the Chin under his opponent's Chin laying and flat as a pancake, and that wasn't calling him south ball but called his fist his self ball two words, right Okay. So that's that's good enough for me. I say boxing but unfortunately, there's some. contemporaneous use of southpaws far as pitching goes as far back as eighteen fifty eight in the New York Atlas there's mention of a left handed first baseman who's called the southpaw that predates that boxing reference although it comes after the Millard fillmore quote there's some others like in eighteen, seventy, five edition of Saint Louis newspaper So it seems to have been associated not just with pitchers, but the pictures are the ones who have the great origin story of associating left handedness with being southpaw. Yay and there was some people said that ballparks were oriented in the eighteen hundreds with home plate. facing west, which meant that a lefty player facing West would be pitching with his South Southpaw but. You know not, all baseball stadiums were oriented that way. So that seems a little flimsy to me. I was thinking of the boxing thing if you're a boxer. You've got your right hand up as your lead hand in your left hand would be south. So that might be your South Pa but if you are a south ball than your left hand is up so that doesn't really make sense. That's right. That's right. It's not sensible at all, which means it's not solved. We have no idea what the true origin of South Pole is. But at least there's a lot more information about it that we can choose from and make your own decision. So we won for three on this one. No we're two or three. I'm including South Salsa so great close cigars literally perfect and then I don't even WanNa bring out the other one again. GOING TO GO ON A salt free diet for the next week. Yeah that'll show salt Well, if you WANNA show salt well, you do that same thing yourself and because we have run out of things to say everybody short stuff is out. 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Ep. 063 - Theology Series (8) The Goodness of God and His Grace

Christ is the Cure

24:00 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 063 - Theology Series (8) The Goodness of God and His Grace

"Welcome to Christ is the cure with Nick Campbell. Here we bring you theology, apologetic and a resource for growth on the basis of scripture alone said back and enjoy today's episode. Hey, welcome back to show this episode sixty three and it is the next episode NFL g series. So that's up eight of the theology series and standard. And we talked about the goodness of God and his grace. If you didn't notice, we are implementing the new intro now, so hope you like it because that would be the intro for at least the year. I think it's kind of catchy on my play routh. It'll be more. So I wanted to talk a little bit before we begin about what's happening on patriarch again. So patriot is where people basically helped this show. Keep going without adds helps the website run helps everything. Run everything that happens as able to be sustained by my patrons. Well, patrons, you're going to get more of a perk as time goes on. 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So after thinking for awhile, decided to approach it as Millard Erickson dozen his introductory theologist work Christian doctrine, which if you're getting into theology, it's a great start a book easily. Ridden course Wayne. When grooms systematic theology is recommend as well. I think airsu- Ericsson is a little bit more approachable in terms of simplicity. However, I do disagree with him. I disagree with. I mean, you're gonna disagree with every the illusion on somethings and we're not. It's very rare to find someone you agree with on every single point. Erickson does a good job giving you various perspectives, and they don't give you his. And so it's it's pretty good in that sense. Anyway, he goes into the chapter focusing on the goodness of God, and I think that's a good format for what we're doing here. And looking at Paul ends book the moody hamburger theology, which I also recommend. I realized that he has Ericsson's classification listed and his different classifications of attributes to God. So according to ends Ericsson actually places that God institute different categories greatness and goodness, and under greatness, we see spirituality personality life, Infinity inconstancy while under goodness, we see the categories such as more purity, integrity and love, and under those sub categories we see moral purity, having holiness, righteousness, and Justice under integrity, genuineness veracity, faithfulness. And lastly, under love, there's benevolence, grace, mercy, and persistence. So you may have noticed that we have covered holiness and that all entails, and all that entails in episode for the six and how much we revisit that now will be unknown. Some may think is weird to start with an attribute of holiness before getting into the attributes, but I think is appropriate. Given that all of God's attributes are wholly which I recommend listening. So fifty six on that topic. So before going into the various ways that God's goodness is shown, let's talk about God's goodness within itself. God is absolutely good, and Jesus realizes himself in saying that God is good and Matthew nineteen. Seventeen, Mark ten eighteen Luke eighteen nineteen in the statements, contextual points, the infinite goodness, God that absolute goodness, God, God shows goodness towards his creatures. And you see this exodus thirty four, six, which reminds the Lord the Lord God, merciful and gracious, slow to anger in abounding, steadfast love and faithfulness. Moving on from here, we can look at the different aspects that reflect or demonstrate God's goodness. So that was just a little bit touching on his general goodness. Now, speaking of God's holiness. We mentioned before. It included moral purity, which would simply be the freedom from anything wicked evil. And this period we see that God's holiness as highly prominent in that God cannot tolerate the presence of evil. Remember that we walk through Isaiah six on the top of God's holiness and relay the fact that God is holy in all of his attributes. He is hired all of his ways and that's just how he is separate, which is the basic definition of holy. The next consideration in God's goodness is righteousness. Righteousness usually denotes being morally right and God as a righteous within the biblical concept as God's attribute of initiation in perfecting a right relationship with his creatures. Now, righteousness being morally right is grounded in the very character of God. You can see exodus nine, twenty seven, Deuteronomy thirty, two, four judges five, eleven. So putting these points together, we see that God is righteous, his laws righteous, and he alone credits writes in this demand through Christ. Let me see. Let me see. So these things can all be seen throughout the New Testament as well in the Lord's judgment has judgment as righteous. Second Thesselonians one, five, six revelation sixteen seven seconds empathy for eight and Paul as well stresses that the reality that God demonstrates his righteousness in the perpetrator, you death of Christ, Romans three, twenty one God as righteous shows us his innate. Indignation against, especially in the reality of his holiness and especially in reality that sin goes against his very nature being that he is very being. He is the source of righteousness. He is honest, and his actions are in accord with his given law because of his nature. There's not an external standard for God to establish morality, but it simply comes from his own nature from reality from reality is the source of what we know as morality and that reality is God himself. So moving on from there, we see within this framework of God's goodness, we consider God's Justice now got firstly accent accordance with his law and righteousness, because his law reflects a character. And Secondly, he had ministers kingdom and accordance with that law. This means that those under him are subject to the law. God Riley acts as a judge and will enact Justice where there's transgression or sin. Now, sin as consequences, and those consequences will come at some point or another God as a righteous judge then. And we must remember that God's Justice is good, and that it includes God's holy wrath. We aren't going to specifically go into wrath too much here, but God's wrath is a means by which God shows his glory and the righteous judgment upon transgressions of his holy long character as a good judge. God must account for every Senator Enzi aggression. And the problem arises is that we want it to occur. Now we want just as now which is often delayed, and in fact, is being stored up Paul states, but because of your heart and in 'em penetre heart mispronounce word of the day, you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath, when God's rights to chestnut will be revealed Roma's to five. We'll find out the reason why his Justice is delayed because of his mercy as faithfulness and we'll get to that in a second. So Erickson, it has worked classifies three attributes under the heading of integrity in those are. Louis being true rasc- telling the truth and faithfulness proving troop, these are relatively self explanatory, and we have spent time on this and the simple explanation that God is truthful. And in my own view, this is implied by the very righteousness and holiness of God. If God is righteous and holiness, we should know inherently that he is true because our moral standard what is written on the conscience of man is that standard and we know that truthfulness injustice are all good things. I hope that made sense. Next, there is a grouping of love, including benevolence, grace, mercy, and persistence. Now benevolences caring for the welfare of those God loves and graces the reality that God demonstrates actions on the basis of his goodness and generosity opposed to any merit or worth of an individual Grace's, something that should be spoken much of as well. It is unmerited undeserving favor of God to those who are under condemnation. We can see it being presented in various ways in the. Recognizable ways is the gospel, it self. It is the provision of salvation, and it can also encompass deliverance from various trials preservation guidance enablement and Jesus. Christ is said to have brought grace and truth. Mercy is the foundation for forgiveness, Rudin and compassion for the miserable, and Paul ends moody, Hamaoka theology. He states it, mercy, stresses the faithfulness of God, despite man's unfaithfulness, and therefore emphasizes pity sympathy and love. So we're told that God is rich and mercy and numerous passages, and we can see his mercy and delaying judgement for the sake of extending the gospel, which is what I was talking about in terms of delaying righteous judgment because see his mercies in various ways banana in the gospel sell last is a persistence which I can be kind of strange Ericsson describes it as God is pictured as withholding judgement and continue to offer salvation grace over a long time. So I thought, perhaps this would be better. Described as patient persistent seems a little bit. Humanistic maybe. Yeah, I would say, oh, maybe that's not the right Trump, but I don't like the way that that is classified. I think patients got his patient underneath his goodness would make more sense for that. He's being patient rather than persistent, but I'm not really sure. I, I guess persistent would work in some some senses. But so one thing I did enjoy of Ericsson's section here is the quote on the tension of God's love and Justice. He says. Love and Justice have worked together in God's dealing with humanity. God's Justice requires that there'd be a payment of the penalty, your sin, God's love, however desires that we'd be restored in fellowship with him, the offer of Jesus Christ has the atonement for sin means that both the Justice and the love of God have been maintained. So the cross has been a display, both the love and just as God, which we talked about many times in the show. It's the pivotal point, neither are compromised on the cross. His Justice remains on those who checked across as he is good in a righteous judge, and God is love, and that he provides his son and the sacrifice made on the cross. God's goodness. Contrary to popular theology is held and his Justice as much as his love. It is good that there will be Justice. We all know that we need it. We are rightly made in the image God, we, we have that sense of injustice in we're in, we're angry at injustice. We feel that tug for Justice. It's a part of our design. Paul in notes here that God's grace and mercy are particularly exhibited as delay and withholding judgement, and that God does not immediately judge. Men is an evidence of his grace. The reason is to naval man unto to repentance, and you see this aromas to four. So after going through the goodness of God, I wanted to focus a little bit on grace here. So I, there's a need, recognize common grace and special grace. Common grace is broad and aimed at all of mankind and give you seen as the favourite God towards all men which is seen in his general care for them. Berkoff state that congress is those general operations of the Holy Spirit whereby he without renewing the heart exercises such a moral influence, a man through his general or special revelation that sin is restrained orders maintain his social life, civil rights, and this is promoted or those general blessing such as rain, sunshine food, and drink clothing shelter, which got him parts to all men indiscriminately where and what measure is seems good to him. So common grace consists of general blessing such as the provision of rain for farming and the means by which to have food and clothing. The general call of the gospel also falls into this category as well. If you think about it. What that means will be explained a little bit later, but basically there's a general call the gospel. You see journal calls in the Old Testament as well. But in terms of the gospel, there's general call and it is a common grace for this general call. So common grace also encompasses the restraining of sin. We see this very instances in scripture and likely we can't see it entirely in our lives. There was a quote, can't remember who said it, but a state of that every man dead yet active in his sin has the capacity become a Hitler stolen scripture. We scripturally. We see that God restrained LaBant LeBron I've heard of both ways. But anyway, he he restrained him in Genesis thirty one seven and God put a limitation on what Satan can do job or to job and job one, twelve and two, six and the prophets. We see, that's our ministry was a means by which sin was restrained. And of course, through human government as they're designed, they're designed to restrain evil. Therefore, an unlawful government. We see God's grace lifted in that aspect and for more on that, you can consider the texture. Romans thirteen one through four in Romans one, which you don't really hear a lot about. So it's kind of just assumed that you know and I don't even know if I want to go there right now. Yeah, we're not going to. So this certainly is not exhaustive on explaining the common grace of God, but it will perhaps lead into further research for listener, which is what we always try to go into special Grace's, narrow and worked within the scope of those who have received it. It can be called special grace as well be defined as the work of the Holy Spirit which moves men to believe in Jesus crisis savior. We will actually approach this grace more. We're talking to so tier Yala it'd be much more fitting in that context because without that context, we either have to move into sociology to explain it better or you know, we can just get to it whenever we get there. So you have a common grace as for all mankind and various means, and the other, the special grace which is for those who are basically in Christ. Which is kind of the same. In that sense, you have actual calling which falls into. Special grace as well. We'll kind of get into later in terms of the theology series. The next episode will be the Tri unity of God. A lot of people have been asking for this episode because of the discussions recently had with several individuals on the trinity that I shared on the show, this various scotch on the trinity. So we're gonna be discussing the trinity and more detail how long it will take me to prep for that. I'm not sure because I have been trying to take my time with prepping this one I kind of had to throw together. But in this one, I think most Christians, even in their early years of being a Christian, an understanding of these concepts, some of the concepts and this up. So that may not have occurred to people his common grace that it's grace or it's a mercy to restrain evil or to withhold Justice. There's a grace to withhold. Justice. There's kind of that paradox of you're speaking to an atheist agnostic and they say that God is evil for flooding the whole world. But then as AM atheist agnostic will say, why doesn't God get rid of all evil? Well, the last time that he did that they Theus in agnostic criticize him for doing that because we are the problem. So that's just one of those things. And we, we are going to see that we are going to see the judgment of God. We are going to see him doing that for right now, we see grace and his willingness to let the message of the gospel reach more individuals for a longer period of time. The people who receive the gospel are of course in God's mercy, and we know that his Grace's extended to them, and that's just what we all kind of know already. So the last thing on that subject that may have been kind of different for some of you is God's grace restraining evil. And if you have any question about that, you can you tell me about it. I think that's about it. I don't think this episode was going to be very long and. The trinity is kind of one that I really want to spend time on and it just how far I go. Depends on how much I think needs to be explained for. We've talked about quite a bit on the show already. If you haven't listened to those episodes Moog regardless. Thank you for being a listener. Thank for being part of the show. Thank you for being on Instagram. Thank you for just thank you for encouraging emails. Thank you for. For everything, and I'm happy that I have been helpful in some respect to various things, and there's a lot of podcasts out there that are really good. And so to be a listener on this show in the midst of a bunch of different podcasts. I appreciate it as a lot of good ones, and yeah, so this this were approaching the one year anniversary of the show, and it's still one of those things where I did not expect it to come as far as it did. Just one of those cool weird things we can year I didn't think is gonna last couple of months, to be honest. There is that little period where it's just blew up and it became number one. IT can start for a couple of times, and I was in the top ten for for good couple of months. And lo and behold, emails come in, people were following, and so. This show is for you guys. I'm here to try to answer questions and give you resources the best. I can. If you didn't notice an icon touch on this here. I don't really touch on politics on the show. There are plenty of Christian baseball political shows, and I don't really touch on that here and I just don't. That's not my arena. I don't focus on politics very much every now, and then I do such as the social Justice statement. I think that was completely necessary. In terms of in general, all the stuff going on right now with protests and all that. I don't really focus on that. And so I don't do that. There was some requests about my opinion on various topics in politics, and I just don't go there. My focus is theology, apologetic and growth. And so if there is things that are brought up in the culture that need to be addressed, such as the social Justice statement, I will, but it depends on whether or not when it wherever it starts infecting the church. That's where I started getting concerned. But if it's outside the church, then I don't, or I think that a lot of Christians would do better to focus less on politics because at the end of the day, our primary kingdom is the kingdom of God and politics here cannot save the United States. It can't. Christians put too much. Much on the backs of politics and they put too much trust in it. You know there there, we are to have influence in various instances. 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EP53: Sexual Fetishes, Puberty, & Social Media Anxiety

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EP53: Sexual Fetishes, Puberty, & Social Media Anxiety

"For twenty five percent off your first order. Visit our expert dot com slash calm. Those and enter promo code condos at checkout. Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of coffee combos. Hello lindsey. Good morning. Got my coffee ready again. I made. I'm actually podcasting from my bed today. Why guy sh- that sounds so cozy? Well, so yesterday went to the dentist, and I'm telling you, I was never one of those people that hated the dentist now. I hate it. I don't know because like all my life. I never really went to the dentist. My mom never had insurance for me. So like, I only went to the doctor or anything if I absolutely was about to die. So. I like when I finally did go to the dentist. I loved it. And I never had cabbies until I was an adult. So I kept getting this Email that I'm overdue for my cleaning, my cleaning my cleaning. So I finally go I was last week. Yeah. Right. Kill I text you. And I was like I'm making all my appointments, and you're like, you're probably like shit. I remember I need to go to the dentist. I haven't been in five years. Exactly. So I was like it was at least a year. So I was like, and it's crazy because I make sure that my kids go every six months like I don't ever like put them off. But when it comes to my appointments like I will push it off for months and months. So I go to the dentist regular cleaning. Not a deep cleaning not anything like that just a regular cleaning. And for whatever reason my mouth hurt so bad afterwards. Like, it was throbbing. I could not eat. It was like I used to be a dental assistant. So I know the difference between a regular cleaning and a deep cleaning and mine regular. So then they did tell me that I had a cavity. So it was like oh fuck. And. It was between my teeth because of lack of lossing, which we all know that we sometimes forget to flaws. And so I go yesterday, not only did I have to take valium to go because I was so freaking out, and I was afraid of feeling the paint. This is real shitty. No real. I'm used to never be afraid of the Dennis. I was like, oh, I got a cab. You like what do you do? You know, bang this out, and it's going to be on my lane. No, I was freaking the fuck out. And it was because I was afraid of feeling the pain. So I get to the dentist. They my mouth was fine. I didn't feel anything because I had the valium the novacaine whatever. And then the the numbing shit wears off and my mouth hurt so bad like I've never felt anything like it. And it wasn't my teeth like my teeth from the filling didn't hurt it was my jaw from holding my mouth open. And then like everything around it. It was the weirdest thing that I've never experienced. And I don't know if it's the dentist or I don't because hygenic me my mouth hurt too. I don't know long story short because I took the valium. I came home. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna take a nap because tired, and I woke up at fucking eight thirty PM and was confused as to where I was and what the hell happened because it was dark outside. And I'm like what is life right now. Meanwhile, I've gone on about living my life all day yesterday, and text you and literally thought you might have fallen off a cliff is normally Millard we've found. Yeah. So I had planned last night. And it didn't work because I don't have the kids. Week. So I didn't get to go through the plans because I want to sleep for four hours. So. And then I once I was up, and I realized I upload my podcast files. I had to do that. I had some cleaning up around the house I had to do and I couldn't sleep again because I had just slept for four hours. So I ended up not going to sleep until midnight. So I'm like, I will never I can't do this again. Meanwhile at midnight last night. Well, it was a little before midnight. I would say like eleven fifteen I'm laying in the bed sending kill text about if she believes in alliens, right? I did see that. And I was like what the fuck what am I what is life like a what is this? Then what kind of question and who asked that at eleven thirty at night. Oh my gosh. Which what is the answer? Do you believe in alliens like what are you thinking? Okay. So I'm just going to be one hundred per cent, honest about this. I was going down another one of those like rabbit holes. And I saw where these people have fetishes about aliens. What do you mean like sexual fetishes and how they're supposed to have like big, you know, what? And like. They have dildos or something like that. That are supposed to be like alien once. No, no. I saw this. And it made me think do 'Lions exist. Are they even real? And honestly, I thought your answer would be yes. Because I feel like you're more of like a science believer. So I thought that you would have said, yes. But that really wasn't your answer. No. I know. It's so weird. Because my friend Becky asked me this last week. She asked me the exact same question. And I maybe she saw the exact same. Maybe she went into the sex shop, and it's all things. Oh, my answer. Is that I do believe that there's life forms on other planets, but not necessarily aliens. I'm not sure what the life forms would be. But I don't know that they're like aliens. I don't know if that's a thing. I just don't think that there's any other life forms that might sound ignorant. But think about it this way, it's thinking about it this way before us, there was fucking dinosaurs. Like fucking dinosaurs existed. Lindsey like what the hell I that's so like. It's crazy to think about like these huge things. And then like they went extinct, and then I don't know was anything on the planet after that. It's very crazy to think about honestly because if you ever go to a museum or whatever, and they have skeletons or bones, or whatever I'm thinking to myself. Okay. This could be like a total lie and like a complete made up thing. But we would have no way of knowing. Like were they even real they had to have been those files and bones indefinitely believed that they're they were real like, I definitely believe in dinosaurs. But I'm just saying there's really no true way for us to like really prove it. Yeah. But like all the continents used to be put together also, which is also very strange. So maybe there is like other life out there. I just don't know. I don't really think about it. You know what I mean? It's not like a doll. This is my mind often. I definitely I definitely think there is because after the dinosaurs. And then obviously there were creatures after that. But like to think about like, you know, all of that stuff, but the dinosaurs were like the main creatures right that we know about so. And then here we are like sixty five million years later so life is like being recreated in different forms, and so I feel like other maybe not in our galaxy. But maybe in other galaxies like Shirley, there has to be life somewhere. And I mean, maybe maybe there is for me. It's very hard to wrap my small brain around. Dinosaurs, roaming around were that large. Yeah. Like, it's very hard for me to be like. Oh, wow. That was something that actually existed I actually used to have one of my best friends. She used to be on the show to I'm not going to engineer name. But she did not know she didn't know that the dinosaurs were real like she thought that the it was all just like a fake make believe. Yeah. Like, she thought it was like make believe like these were museums to see the dinosaurs like for entertainment. She didn't know that it was like a real thing. Well, they were a real thing. But I'm not so sure about aliens. And I think it's very strange like there's some very strange people in this world. I'm one of them, but not strange, and in these types of ways, but to have fetish about aliens that you don't even know this is just really weird. I mean, but the same thing goes for people that have like a foot fetish like foot feet exist. And that's still weird. I mean. Yeah. All better shes are like pretty weird. But I'm just saying something that you have no way of knowing if it's even real real. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of fetishes, though. Okay. Like when I first started Christly knows best. And it was like the new thing. I would get these brand of emails from people asking me about your underwear. Yeah. About my underwear and shoes like high heels. Did you get these? No, I did get one about underwear. And then also I wanna say it was Chelsea. And I I don't remember. It was me and somebody else is like older man lived in Pennsylvania wrote us letters to our homes. Wow. And like was like requesting certain things, I think it was Chelsea I don't I'm pretty sure it was Chelsea. And I like freaked the fuck out what is wrong with people like this person. It was the same person that was emailing me. But this person was offering thousands of dollars to a pay pal account for high heels and a pair of underwear. No. And I'm like, obviously, I know what they're going to be doing with them. So that went straight to my delete folder. But yes, absolutely. It's just weird that somebody would even feel comfortable enough. It amazes me people in this world at the level that people are so comfortable to ask certain things to people that they don't even know that blows my mind. I just can't fucking can't. I don't have a fetish. Like, I don't think I'm a weird person. I don't do things that are weird. So like, I can't relate Hugh say this all the time that you don't do things that are weird. But I feel like you do weird stuff. I really don't. There. The only thing that I can think of that as super weird that I do is like I have an had very sensitive to smells me too. I hate go. If you. Yeah, I hate smells. But also like my person like whoever I'm with like, our smell the fuck out of them. Like, I love to smell them. So that's kind of like a fetish. Yeah. I think I would say I would definitely borderline fetish e. Like, yeah. That's like the one thing. That is weird about me. Okay. So you guys know that I love to mix up my son and with the season change and cozy weather I like to wear more sweet and natural sense. And that's why I use the luxury brand subscription service called sent bird every month. You can choose a new fragrance from over four hundred and fifty designer brands and right now, I'm on a big kick. I love bamboo by Gucci. I take it everywhere. It's easy to have on hand. And it's an asleep travel spray bottle. So that I don't have to carry the big, bulky, bottles everywhere. I go. Yeah. And everybody knows that. I am obsessed with nirvana white and Irvan a black. But I decided that I was going to try something a little bit different last time that I ordered. So that I'm not married to my sent. So I have ordered Tom Ford black work it, and it was just something that caught my eye. It's a Woody sexy. Sent I think it would be perfect for. Date night. If you're looking for something like that. And it's definitely more of a false sense. So I really like to smell different seasonally. That's why I always use bird dot com with this exclusive offer you'll get fifty percent off your first month today. That's only seven fifty for your first perfume. That's S C E N T bird dot com slash coffee and use our code coffee for fifty percents off year first month, S C, E, N T bird dot com slash coffee. Sign on smell amazing. So like when you meet somebody though. Okay. Just like let's say it's like the first time that you meet them. What is the first thing that you look at when you meet a person there? Smile thirteenth. Okay. Yes. I look at but their teeth to but I have noticed that a smell. Can make attracted to someone. But also, I've only had to like when Chris and I were together. I feel like in the beginning. He didn't really have a sense that I noticed. You know what I mean? So it must have been either his personality or his looks that dri win. So it was something else. Yeah. But. Yeah. Other than that. I don't have any weird fetishes. I'm not just don't have cable. I will tell you what really creeps me out. And I wanted to know if this creeps other people out to because I know I can't be the only person that thinks of this. But I was in the grocery store on Sunday. And this happens all the time. But on Sunday, I was just Schroll and through the produce section and all of a sudden, I turn the corner, and I see this man with like pajama looking clothes on and a pair of those slides. I prefer if men are going to wear slides or something like that they need to put on a pair of socks because I don't wanna see their fee like it is just. Yeah. You know, what I don't I feel like if men were slides, they should definitely wear the socks. Also. I just think it's like nasty, especially in the grocery store of all places because I'm trying to pack my produce, and I see this man with a size nineteen shoe coming at me with toes that are like over go by hanging on your side. Like, it's like they're on a ledge. And like they're hanging. Like, criminals me out, even as a girl. I don't really love to wear my like my slides specifically without socks. It's just kind of weird. And I used to think all the time growing up when I saw people do that. I was like why are you wearing sandals with socks like it's weird. Right. And now that I'm not a kid anymore. And I'm not having to look at kid feet. And I see adults doing it. I'm like, okay. You really need to throw on a pair of socks because that's weird. But so funny because the other day I was dropping off the baby with Chris. And I don't know we talked about being barefoot, I love to be barefoot like as soon as I if I wear sneakers, which I have a ton of sneakers, or if I wear boots or something the first thing, I do when I get home is take off my socks and shoes. Like, I am barefoot, and I will go outside of my yard barefoot. And I will be barefoot. I don't care my kids go way. So Chris was getting irritated because the baby loves to be barefoot. Like if we put socks and shoes on him in the car. He's taking his shoes off right because I just love to be barefoot in like, we have the trampoline outside that's in the ground. So they have to have their there's and shoes off in the baby jumps and stuff. So. The baby was outside barefoot and Chris's grandma's the same way like she was telling me how she loves to be barefoot to and Chris hates it. He will not show his feet like he wears socks all the time. So she was like Christmas grandma was like I haven't seen Christmas feet since he was three years old. I'm like, that's how mentioned be that's how they should. They should keep their socks on. Nobody wants to see their feet that is so funny. So just Chris how ugly fee is that? Why he covers them? No. He doesn't even have ugly feet like he just doesn't have ugly feet. So I'm so I don't know why he does locks has the cutest like Fateh, Maui Maui feet. Yeah. I love his there. So like packed in like factor. Shonky I know smoke my Mike, none of my kids have ugly fee. I mean, I I think has like flat feet, but like my kids don't really have ugly. Can you were about to be like well Isaac has ugly fee? I was going to be like five. No, he's I think they're flat. But they're not ugly. Like, he didn't none of my kids ugly feet. Gosh. Well, speaking of ugly feet. So we'll not I started dating dating. I would go over and watch movies, or we would just, you know, hang out. I don't know what would be doing. But we would just be hanging out. And every time I went over. He always had on like these thick asks socks, and they're like wool like big Saux. And I'm like thinking to myself. I would never ask him because you know, we're just starting to talk and like kind of dating but not officially dating. But like kind of and I just thought. Not that wouldn't be something that I would ask him like why he's wearing thick asks wool socks. Like, I don't know. Maybe he's cold or something. So he would always wear these. And I thought it was so strange, and even it would be like an summertime, and he would have on like long thick socks. And I'm like, okay. Something just weird. Like, maybe he's missing toes like something is going on. And it was because he was ashamed of his feet like he hates his feet. And I thought your first thought was that he was missing toes. I've thought of a lot of things, but I was like maybe that's what it is. Like, maybe he doesn't want me to see or something. And so I finally like saw his feet, and I mean, he's got huge feet. We'll has a size fourteen. So like, no wonder he was trying to cover them up. But yeah, he told me that like back in the day that he would never wear like flop. Or like open toed shoes because he hated what is feet looked like. And so that's why he was wearing socks for that whole time. Well, now does he go barefoot or he still wear socks DeAnne? Now, he goes barefoot and doesn't care and I'm like, jeez. I wish you cared. Sometimes. I just. Not really gross out by unless they're disgusting and most men fee are just weird. Yeah. Like, they're weird shaped. Okay. 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Mom when she gets up like what are the things that she does. And I know that we've talked about it before that, you know, check your phone brush your teeth. Blah, blah, blah. But okay. My main question is is do you make your bed in the morning before you start cutting? No fuck note. Absolutely. The fuck not fertile. Vanni? You do I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you. I sure I get up check my phone. But last week, I forgot to brush my teeth. What? Yes, I've left the house. And I realized when I got in the car to take Lincoln a school that I forgot to brush my teeth because I'm tell you why I don't really have a routine besides physically getting out of the bed because my mornings are not typical. Sometimes I make coffee and sometimes I don't have time. And sometimes my kids eat muffins on the way to the bus stop. And sometimes they eat cereal because there's enough time. Sometimes. I just I can't. Are you just that much like not a morning person that you're just like, okay? I just need to do. Whatever is the obligation and like nothing more in the morning. Yes. But by time. I don't. Yeah. Because here's the thing. There was. I don't remember maybe it was like two months ago. What month are we in right now? We're in October. So yeah, I guess the beginning of this year. I started sending setting alarm clock for Isaac because I was tired of getting up an arguing with him to get up right now. I set I set an alarm clock about fifteen minutes before he supposed to get up, and I put it across the room. So we get up to turn it off. Like, that's I don't want him hitting snooze. We're not passing go collecting two hundred dollars like get up. So that way that will keep me an extra fifteen minutes to do whatever I need to do with Lincoln and logs while Isaac is getting up, but sometimes the baby wakes up before the other boys, and sometimes he wakes up after sometimes everybody wakes with the same time. There also have been mornings where Isaac goes and gets Lincoln gets lucked out of the crib and they're all eating breakfast downstairs by time. I p and brush my teeth. So there's no such thing as a typical morning in this house. Well, first of all, I just. I wanted to say that Isaac is like a perfect child. No, he's not. But he is. But he's not well because you find small things because you're his mom. So you find like the little things but from an outsider looking in. He's very good like with the other boys, and like being helpful. I feel like yeah. I mean, he it's crazy because I would have thought that when I had Lux just based on the situation that the boys would have been have reacted more negatively towards it. Just because you know, Kristen is relationship was kinda rocky. It was you know, Chris was not in the picture for eight months. Like, you would think that they would maybe almost have a little bit of resentment towards the baby because this baby came and now I have to split my time three ways. And you know, I'm giving the baby a lot of attention because babies and toddlers need that. But is it loves looks and Lincoln loves looks so much that they just it's not even it's almost second nature. Isaac like Lincoln is almost loves them so much. He's too rough. Where like Isaac is just it's just second nature. Like, I will literally be brushing my teeth, and I hear him go into the baby's room and get him out of the crib. That's so sweet that and I don't even it's like things like that. That makes me want to have another baby. Oh, yeah. I just I was very lucky in that sense. But in other like Isaac definitely has an attitude that people don't see because typically he doesn't like he doesn't film when we like he won't film and have an attitude typically or like around other people, but I'm like, the attitude that he has I'm like, I know that that was me when I was eight years old. Honestly on my gosh, kale. I can't you know, what I talked to. I she's like family. I talked to this family friend that I've had literally since I was like a toddler, and she has two boys and they're fifteen and I want to fifteen and eleven so the same age gap is Isaac in Lincoln, and we were on the phone for like twenty minutes yesterday talking about seriously, how bad these boys stink like having boys, smells, so bad. I there's an just talking about like hygiene. And like, I feel bad that I have to get onto my boys about like showering and deodorant and brushing your teeth, and this and that because I'm like, I I want these habits these good hygiene habits to follow them through. Adulthood. She's talking about how bad boy stink like, they smell, really bad. Well, so I want to ask you if you questions about that. But my morning routine is much different than I think a lot of people's, but don't hawk it up to the fact that I have one child. So like my life is not nearly as chaotic as yours because you've got three things going three different ways at all time. So in the morning I wake Jackson up. He showers comes down seared has his vitamins eats breakfast. I fix his lunch. Go upstairs, kind of get myself semi ready or presentable to take him to school make my bed in his bed. And then maybe start a load of laundry or something like that. And then head out the door to school. I know that's not typical. But I find a lot I find that. I get a lot of things accomplished in the morning like in that small amount of time. And I think it's just because. I'm so like Uber focused and tie like Thomas sensitive. So I know that I only have like X amount of time to get those things done. So I try to like rush through those things and it's off the list by the time. I get him dropped off his school. Okay. You know, what I didn't have the kids when I woke up this morning. But when I woke up this morning, I brush my teeth may and my coffee empty, the dishwasher took my trash out. Let the dogs out for the dogs. Like, I did a lot in about an hour. I got a lot of stuff done I straight in the living room when I have the kids here. I just I don't I can't that's praying. I only have one. So it's different. I am surprised though that you're not that you don't get ready before could you said that you do everything. And then you get ready. Yeah. And it kind of depends sometimes in the wintertime when it's cold Jackson takes a shower first, and then comes down to yours eats breakfast. But normally like at the beginning of the school year before it gets cold heeds breakfast and then showers, so I kind of like flip my routines based on win. He showering my kids will not they don't none of us really shower, and I'll show her in the morning sometimes, but my kids definitely shower at night. Right. But we don't that makes me think about the hygiene thing. Okay. So when is it appropriate for boys to start wearing deodorant? And when do they need it? So my situation is a little bit different because I don't really want to exploit my son or anything like that. But. He he's already going through puberty and he's been going through for about. Year and a half two years now. Oh, so Isaac already is going through all of that. Yeah. Did you go through? You know, I didn't go through. I got my period when I was like, twelve okay? And what about Joe he go through puberty early? No. Wow. So I in my opinion. I do think that it's just a lot of like the chemicals the GMO's the things that we eat our environment. Like things are just not as healthy. Right. Yeah. No. So he does have to get like an x Ray of his hand. His wrist rather where they check like all of that kind of the growth and stuff like that. So isaac. We did Joan I started like a year two years ago. We did try like the more natural deliverance and stuff like that. But those that in. They didn't really work. So is wearing to Lincoln's about to be five and he's not. But also Isaac does play sports like Isaac student jitsu in basketball. So he's got to wear it. And it's hard. You know, you've got kids that are in all different life. As is like is it going through puberty, and then a five year old, and then locks who's getting into everything? So right now, that'd be really hard. I just I didn't know when people started introducing their kids to deodorant and stuff like that. I know that for Jackson he'll be six and at the end of December. And I have switched over from the kids toothpaste to the meant toothpaste just because I feel like it's a natural transition to get him used to using that. I want him using that full-time when he starts kindergarten just because the kids toothpaste, I don't really feel like it freshens breath. Oh, so yeah. That's the thing that we're struggling with over here too. Because I feel. Like Isaac needs the more the mint one like the adult toothpaste, but Lincoln's not there yet. But because they use the same bathroom. It's like, well, why does he get to use that one in? I have to use this. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. So then that's hard to. Yeah. But I'm not I I've actually been letting them use my toothpaste because I feel like it's Minty. But it's a good transition one. Oh, yeah. See that's what I use to use the quip. And you know, what I thought about that actually the other week whenever I was using it. And then I just never gave it to him because I had missed toothpaste in his I just I thought about it whenever I was brushing my teeth, and then it was like a thought that just like passed, but yeah, good idea because it's it's Minty. But it's a good transition one to like more dull toothpaste agreed. Agreed. I'll try that one of the most important things that we do for Health Day is brushing our teeth yet. Most of us do not do it properly until quip. Was brushing all of the wrong ways not for long enough. And I forgot to change out the brushes on time. And that's because most brands focus on selling flashy gimmicks rather than better brushing, but not quip. I love the multi use cover that mounts to your mirror and announce to slide on as a cover over the bristles for on the go, traveling which Lindsey, and I do all the time. We just feel like why should you cut her up? 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You'll get your first refill pack for free. With the electric toothbrush. That's the first refill pack for free at get quip dot com slash coffee. GATT Q U IP dot com slash coffee. Speaking of that, those types of things I've I've noticed that. I'm struggling a lot with like. And I might have talked about talked about this before because is the oldest. And he he does know right versus wrong more than the other two. But I noticed that I'm struggling with parts of like life's not fair. What one brother gets the other one might not want? You know what I mean? So it's like stuff just as little as like the toothpastes. Like why why do I have to use this in Lincoln doesn't or why does Lincoln get to do that? And I don't and I'm struggling with that. Like, I don't want one of my kids to think I'm favoring the other. And I think that because is the oldest that sometimes he feels that way. And I don't know how to navigate that. Well, and also because it doesn't seem to be a problem with looks like they both fully understand that Lux is a fulltime job with an with an insult like Lincoln knows luck. Takes a lot of my time. If I'm busy doing something with the baby he doesn't I don't get the sense that he feels resentful. I don't get an attitude or. Back or anything like that. And same goes for Isaac. But when it comes to Isaac in Lincoln, right? I feel like they. They both feel some type of way. We'll what is why does he get to do it? And I don't why are you with him? And not me like I'm struck because you have to consider too that even though there's a decent gap between Isaac and Lincoln. They still do play together. And they're old enough to argue. So the difference between that is a completely different makeup as far as relationship than with the baby. Because obviously, they are not going to sit and argue with the baby because he doesn't know any better. So I think that just like the relationship in general is much different with those two. And the fact if Isaac is going through puberty, everything is kind of an argument during that time. So, you know, they find small little things too. Pick up on to just bring attention to. And I know that everything for me. I feel like time is a huge thing being a mom and everything can't be a conversation. And I tried to explain that to Jackson like, I don't want to be the mom that says you have to do this. And when he says why I don't want to be the mom. That's like because I said, so, but like kind of you know, right? Like, you can't explain it just is what it is that. That's just what it is. Yeah. Like, you can't have the time to explain every single thing and pick apart every single thing. Like at the end of the day. It's just toothpaste, and it's if it becomes a bigger issue than at that point. It can become a conversation. But Isaac you are how old Isaac eight is eight he'll be nine in January. You're eight and Lincoln five and this toothpaste is for kids that are one to five this toothpaste is for kids that are over five years old, right? Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's that's just what it is. Yeah. Because it's. Dinner. It'll show you like on the thing. If you read any of the facts like what the recommended ages are for certain things. Everything's an argument Lindsey at this house and everything and it's like because I recently I talked about it before I recently Isaac and his own room. But the playroom is attached to Lincoln's room before I moved before I moved Isaac into the room. I said who wants to say in this room and who wants to leave like who wants to go in the other room? So I was ready to move into the other room. He didn't care that the play room was attached to Lincoln's room. So that like wasn't like a jealousy resentment thing, however, when it comes to cleaning the room, well icicle be like that's not my room, that's Lincoln's room. Like he doesn't want to clean up the playroom. Right. But then you have to go into the conversation of okay Isaac. I understand that you too have totally separate bedrooms. However, I'm not asking you to clean Lincoln's room. I'm asking you to clean the playroom that is attached to Lincoln's room. This is no longer an argument. Yeah. It's just I never I guess I never put to like I never thought. Okay. Maybe him going through puberty is the reason for all the argument. Right. Yeah. No. I definitely or maybe it's just the age or maybe just brothers because like I'll talk to people who have siblings and stuff, and I actually talked to. Chris was little cousin. She's got two brothers. And she was like, no, we never snitched on each other. You never told on each other. We always back each other up and their ages. Are fairly close to Isaac in Lincoln. So I was like, well, that's so weird. Because at my house everyone's telling on each other all the time. Well, and. I know it school Jackson's teachers are definitely helping with facilitating on the tabloids and stuff, and basically I mean, they don't say if you're not bleeding don't tell me, but they say, you know, pray for your friends or whatever. But don't tell us about it. You know, like figure it out, basically. And sometimes as a mom you just have to do that. And I've had to do that with Jackson on play dates or whatever it is just figure it out. Have you heard about the Rx bar? You guys know that we're obsessed. Arc's far is a whole food protein bar made with real whole ingredients are expert sets out to be transparent to their customers, and they have created a bar with no fillers, preservatives, artificial ingredients, and general BS Rx bars are clean and simple. And every ingredient serves a purpose. I love how they label each bar. 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No like two weeks ago. And I just like knowing plans, especially when it's involving like other people other than me Jackson, and will I like to know general plans on what people are doing. So we're going to Disney for the week of thanksgiving. And then coming home doing thanksgiving with family and then. I put Christmas up the day after thanksgiving, which I know you said that too. And for thanksgiving this year in the past. It's either I cook and wills mom cooks or. I cooked a full thanksgiving before I've hosted thanksgiving at my house and done it, and his mom just brings a dish or whatever. But I feel like we're kind of getting at that age where we need to step up a little bit more. Because when we go to Will's parents and stuff it's like, I'll bring stuff or sometimes they won't ask for anything. And it's like we just go and enjoy which is fine. But we're at the age where I'm kind of like, okay, we need to to step in and as hard as Christmas is concerned. We're doing things a bit differently this year, which we've never done, and I don't know if you've ever done this before, but we're going to do secret Santa with a limit. And I'm kind of organizing that and everybody gets one person and then Jackson's not included because he's the only child so everybody will get him a present. But. Everybody else has just doing secret Santa and that way, I feel like the meaning of Christmas is to be around family and to enjoy the company and. I don't think that the presence matter is much. I actually think it takes away from Christmas. Yeah. I mean, I'm not I'm not I agree. I do agree with that. And I don't feel so to grasp wrapped up trying to get gifts. And making sure you get something for everyone. And then it's like things start becoming last minute. So then gifts aren't super meaningful. And it's I don't know. I just I hate that part about Christmas. Honestly. And I think that it's going to be so much fun. Just to be able to shop for one person because you can really put your whole thought thought into that. And everybody doing it for one person plush Jackson, and then that's just it. And I think we will have so much more fun. Honestly by doing it that way. That's actually how I used to do it with hobbies family. Really would do. Yes. We would do everyone got the kids gifts my kids, and then the other kids in the family like everyone got the kids gift, but the adults because there were so many we just did secret Santa with limited, and it made it more fun. And I'm I'm very much like a practical gift giver, if I'm going to give a gift I'm not giving a gift that you're going to need to give her seat four. I'm going to take my time to know what you need or one. And it's going to be practical that you're gonna use like. Like don't and same goes like even growing up for me. Like, why even waste your money on something that I may or may not wear or use like I'm just more of like a practical thoughtful when I do my gifts like last year for all the kids in my family. I did because my kids in my family and my extended family. My aunts uncles and stuff like that. They just travel all the time, and they're always doing stuff with their kids. So I did like the personalized throw blankets. So like they can sleep with them. But they could also go camping with them, and they all have them. Yeah. And this year because all the kids in my family do sports. I think I'm going to do the yetis tumblers that are personalized about all the time. Yes. Yeah. So I want to do stuff like that. Because I know it's practical, I know they're going to use it. I know that it's just cute thoughtful stuff. But yeah, I'm the same way. I just why am I going to spend all this money on every single adult? That's not really what it's about. Yeah. And you know, I really thought that when I came up with this idea, it's not like a new idea. It's just new to our family. But once I came up with this. I thought that nobody would be onboard. But surprisingly everybody when I started kind of messaging and calling and just kind of gauging interest because I also didn't want people to feel like they had to participate if they didn't want to do that. It was like by choice thing. So everybody wanted to participate. It's a good idea. And I think it's. Yeah. I just think that it gives you more of a chance to really think through gifts and kind of focus on what the real meaning of Christmas is so I think that you did good with that idea. And also, it takes the pressure off of everyone because I feel like everyone probably feels very similar about feeling the pressure of gift giving and having to have something for everybody and having to be thoughtful and spending so much time and the time of year, it just flies by and I feel like you get so wrapped up in being at the mall or shopping on Amazon. Whatever it is that you dismiss the whole time. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And then far as like the. Buying for Jackson. I try to do that super early. So I will probably start next week. Actually, usually it's by the first of November is when I start looking and purchasing gifts, we do a lot of Amazon to be perfectly honest, just because it's easy. We have prime and it shows up at the door, and that's just it. And a lot of times, it's cheaper. I used to be a very last minute gift giver, like not give her a last minute shopper. But I found just that it's easier to order online. And I do a lot of personalized stuff. Now that last year I had all my stuff done by October. So I'm a little bit late this how so you really early. We'll because a lot of the things that I do like the blankets. I ordered first of all we have fifteen kids in the family. So I had to order all of them and people stopped taking personalized orders early. Right. When you order online. So I wanted to make sure that they all came in. Time. I hate that. I have ordered people gifts before and they have not delivered in time. And then they're like, oh, we'll kill the didn't get anything for like for the kids. And it's like I did it's just late. I hate that. So yeah, I am actually late. And I'm hoping that. Anything that? I want to do is not too late at this point. But so yeah, I'm going to probably start this week. I wrote down like a bunch of stuff that I wanted to for all the kids. But well, you'll have to let us know how it goes. And what you get ordered because I'm interested. Okay. I sure will. 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And I didn't mean to take away from the ad or the edit or anything like that. However, I'm so shocked and surprised at the response about my nipples. What was the response? People were calling me trashy. They didn't want to see my nipples this that and the third mind you my nipples are not like you can't see my physical nipple. You can just see that. I have nipples right? So it brought me back to breastfeeding and stuff like that. And you know, and I breastfed Lincoln for a year. And I literally never covered because it was sweaty. It made me uncomfortable. It made him uncomfortable. He didn't want anything on his face. So I didn't cover. I thought breastfeeding was a natural thing. And I guess I. When I was more aware while I was breastfeeding. I realized how fended people were by. But also I didn't care because this was my baby. And I'm going to feed them wherever now that I'm not breastfeeding in I'm in a shirt where you can't see the nipples. You can just see like where my nipples are bright people are having a fucking fit. And I could not I'm flabbergasted, I guess is a good word by it. Because I'm just why are people offended by nipples? But it kind of goes back to what I was saying about how people aren't ashamed to say anything to anyone anymore, and especially over social media that it's just kind of like a free for all. And you can say whatever you want to those people would never say that to you chances are it's just because it's a free for all. They can type whatever they want to type and say, whatever they want to say and the photos were beautiful, but they found the one thing and the photo it's like you can't get anything, right? You know? So they find the one thing and the pictures that it's like, oh, I can pick that apart because I can't find anything else on this picture to pick apart. So that's going to be it. But I I don't like it was had me racking my brain. Because I think about how I was raised and like, my mom, and I never had conversations about except acceptance or judgment of people we never had those conversations. At twenty six years old with no guidance in that way. I don't like I didn't have to have those conversations with my mom to fully except somebody for who they are or not judge people for like, I wouldn't if we were out on the street or at the mall or at WalMart or wherever like, I don't I don't even look twice. If you have if you're not wearing a bra on your nipples are out. I don't give a shit like that's not something that I'm. If someone's nipples are pointing directly at my face. I'm not I don't give a shit like I'm not going to even think twice about it. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean to be perfectly honest that goes back to me talking about this man's fee, and like just because I noticed fee. That's one thing that I fully right, right? But I'm talking like because he didn't take care of them. And they were just like out there. Yeah. But I'm talking about everybody has nipples. Yeah. I think it's just you're nipping. And like that's just what it is. I mean, I don't know why they would have picked it apart. But like I said, I think it really goes back to that. There was nothing else to pick apart in the photos. Those were probably the best photos that you've taken a long time. They were just really good pictures. And that was one thing in the photo that they could be like. Oh, yeah. This photos. Great. However. Dimples are showing. But so so rude, but I was watching this thing online. I was watching this thing on TV the other night. And remember that night that it was like eight thirty or nine o'clock. And I was like I'm already in the bed. Well, this was the night that I was watching this, and it was talking about social media creating social anxiety, and how kids as early as middle school are becoming socially anxious because of social media and just like the social comparison of Ugo and you find yourself doing it as an adult two. So imagine like a child that's going through puberty, or whatever that's on social media and comparing themselves to other people, and I was very amazed. By the fact that. This side rate for girls is up seventy percent. What whereas boys at twenty five percent. And I think it's because girls are just they wanna compare by nature you compare yourself to other girls. Yeah. Other girls, just I'm sure boys do it to some extent as far as like athletic, ability, or whatever. But maybe not as much looks close or. I'm sure there are some boys that do it, but probably much less than girls. And this is shocking. This is the reason why imagine if you were so if you were mentally, you know, a weaker person, and you couldn't shake that somebody was talking about your nipples. Imagine. That would make some people feel right? Yeah. That's heartbreaking. Honestly that is. So sad. What? I don't get it. I just truly don't get it. It's very sad. And makes me scared for our kids because there's things that we have faced in this world that our parents didn't face and things that our kids will face that. We never knew about. Yeah. I mean in some ways, it's it's weird. Because it's like social media has done a lot of good as far as like jobs and such like that. Because obviously like you can work for these social media companies or you get paid by posting for them. But in other aspects, it's done a lot of harm crap harm. Yeah. To to. I don't want to say the world, but to people. It's so it's it's a catch twenty two. I feel like I was reading this article about this girl who got a complete complex about her nose from social media and said that she would do whatever it took like she was on this path of she was going to get a nose job. Like, she didn't care what it took because she was so down on her appearance because of her nose, and how people talked about it. But the interesting thing was was once she fix what? She deemed the problem that no one commented wants her nose was perfect. It's not like people are saying positive things. It's only negative only negative. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's interesting too. Because I feel like that's how it is in real life too. Like, people will do a million good things. But the second you do something bad. They'll comment on that. But not about the good things. That's that's a shame. That's that's a real shame to be honest. Such a shame. Changing gears a little bit though, because I have thought about this many times when I'm driving down the road have you ever been driving and you see like an old power pole. And it's like shoes or hanging up there or you see like random shoe in the middle of the road. Yes. Okay. So what are your thoughts? Whenever you see this. The I thought that I thought of was when Lincoln showed up to jitsu last week without a sheet because he left it in the driveway. Why did you leave your car like you knew your shoe came off? Why did you leave it in the driveway and continue to get in my car and not say anything to me? No, honestly, though, like if I see in a random place where like you wouldn't think of it? I worry was a because you see in movies too. But like did someone bully you, and you they took your shoes and threw them? I always think. Worst case scenario. Right. I think you think of a murder. Yes. That is what I think of or somebody who's been abducted or something like that. And they like hung shoes up, and it's like a subtle clue of like they had been there or something. I have no idea like what? Goes through my head whenever I'm thinking these things or wine thinking these things, but I was driving Jackson to school the other morning, and it made me think of it because it looked like a sketch for like a little girl scatter in the road. And I'm like, how did that one shoe get there, and I wish if anybody's listening, and they know why one shoe gets in the road like on a highway or why shoes get like hung up on power poles please explain well. So when I was one of the times that I was like good with my mom, and she would tell me stories about when I was little she told me that one time I must have been two or three. She had just bought me. A new pair of shoes. And I was laughing so hard in the backseat, and she didn't know why. And when she looked back. She realized that I had thrown them. Throwing them out the window while we were driving. So. Maybe it's a situation like that. Yeah. So maybe. Okay. And then this one time I saw it looked like men shoes in the middle of the road. So I'm like, okay. So if a man's throwing them out the window, then there's issues, and I always think when I see this. It's literally like I watch way too much like law and order and stuff. It's like I think that somebody is in the backseat like tied up, and they threw the shoe is like a clue of like where where they've been. I mean, that's actually smart like just kick. The like if your hands are tied up just like fall over and then like kick the window. That's actually, really smart on. That's what I love. Crazy. It's not crazy though. Because I mean, if you guys get abducted, and you guys they tie your hands up for sure just like fall over in the backseat, and then just kicked the window out and lose a shoe because someone's Phuc someone is going to see you kick your shoe out the window. You know what I'm saying? But would people help you know, what I mean, like, I'm so somebody kick their shoe off out the window. I'm calling nine one one. So you're cop calling for sure. Yes. And I'm following because I'm going to help somebody. That's not okay. If I saw that I would probably have a panic attack in crash, so I really would need to call nine one one right for sure. Run into them out every. Like this help everybody. Okay. Just going back to like the shopping thing and like kid thing. Yup. The other day. Okay. So as you know, sometimes I get a babysitter from twelve to three and do I like that time not really, but that might be the only time that I might be to get like some shit done without having to take in and out of the car seat. And then like running them into the store or like, the gym or whatever. Right. So. It's more convenient for me if I can get a sitter from not from nine to twelve just because I drop Lincoln off. And then I can go get some errands done before. I whatever. So my friend just moved back from Georgia, and she's like decorating her house and like trying to settle in. And she asked me for my help. So I'm like, okay. I love interior design, and I can do this. And I don't have to spend my own money. So I'm like, all right. I'll drop Lincoln off at school. And then I'll just take with me to the store and do that. And then he'll go to the hill. The center will come at twelve still. So that I can get my stuff done. So it's like nine thirty ten o'clock and lex is just like, he's grabbing everything an just touching everything. I tell him. No. And he's crying. He won't sit still. He's a nightmare. Right. So I'm getting super frustrated. I'm like, all right. I'm leaving. I'm not doing this all all come shopping for you when he has a babysitter. And. No. Honestly, because I was like this isn't worth the stress like I'd rather not because he's frustrated clearly because I'm not letting him do what he wants. And I'm frustrated because I can't get shit done. So I forgot what that was like because I don't remember they marry very what they very well may have touch stuff and like Ben frustrated, but I don't remember Isaac in Lincoln doing that. Right. So anyway, we get home. I'm sitting in the driveway and Lux has fallen asleep now on the way home from the store. So at this point, I was so frustrated that I didn't want to wake him up and take them out of the car seat to go in the house. So I'm sitting in the car in the driveway with luck sleeping in the backseat. And I'm just like, okay. I'm just going to breathe. I just started crying. Like, I lost my mind because I was just like what is life like people? I love my kids to pieces, but I just don't. I don't think people talk about that stuff as much as it happens. You know what I mean? Because people want to show this perfect life on social media. They don't talk about the hardships of it. But like, I couldn't I had to go to Staples and print some stuff out. I needed to go to Verizon, and I very well could have gotten all of that done at nine thirty while I was already out dropping Lincoln off versus coming home for three hours and having a sitter come like instead of me going to school dropping Lincoln often coming back home and then going back out on the sitter comes. It would have just been more convenient for me to just take lex with me. Right. Get all the things done. But it was so frustrating to try to do that that it wasn't worth it. And so I started crying because it was that on top of all the things that I still needed to get done when I did have the sitter. And I was just like this is it. I'm like, I I don't know what to do. And so I'm sitting in my driveway crying and Buxton in the backseat sleeping like nothing happened. I feel like that. So relatable, all moms, really. Because so many times I've seen moms and the grocery store or like at the mall or wherever and it's like, they're having you can tell that, they're they have boarded the struggle bus that day, and it's just like, really bad. And you know, it's always you see somebody else's kid acting bad when yours is acting. Good. Try to like walk past that person. And let them know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. And it's okay. Because my kids not always good either. Because you can just tell the frustration. And I know that I've been there and just you just want to give up and just feel like oh my gosh. Like, I cannot do this. I cannot do this. But you have to be your own hype. Man like you can't. Let it get to you like that you just have to fight through it. And know that it's a phase because it is a phase and Jackson went through two phases. He has walked my ass. I'll be perfectly honest like. Very stubborn and strong willed. And. There are certain things that like when we would have played eight or whatever that other people could tell their kids to stop doing something. And it's like they immediately stop and Jackson. It's like I'm on the three countdown, and it's like I've gotten to three and by that point. I'm just really ticked. And I don't understand why you didn't stop the first time. I asked you to stop. And it's just like he's so bound and determined and he's finally getting out of that. It's like I tell will that we will break him. And we'll tell me we will break him like I will not give in. I will out stubborn him. And yeah, it's hard when you have a child that is so determined and wants to be independent, but also dependent on you. But thinks that they can just do whatever it's really hard. Well, and then I'm just like when I said to my friend. I was like I'm not doing this today. Like, I'm just not we're going to go home to wait for the babysitter. And then I'm going to get my stuff done. Right. The next day. She was like, oh, what are you doing after drop off like I want to do this this and this I said, I'm not doing that. I'm not going to even attempt to stress myself out. I said I'll we can do it. When I have a sitter. I was not doing it. The next day. I wasn't giving a second chance. Fuck. No. And I think to a lot of moms can also relate to this as well. That over committing yourself to things because you have to know what your limits are. And what's within moments, and what you can individually handle his mother because what I might be able to handle on the other hand, you might not vice versa. So right. There are certain things that might drive me nuts that my my child does in your child does it too. And it doesn't phase you you just have to know what's within your limits. And right, go with it. Because maybe shopping with Lux is just not in the car and not a thing. Not a thing. Nope. It truly is not a thing for me at all. And I'm not because I'm like, it doesn't only stress meow it stresses him out. So why am I going to you know, what I mean? Like, why would I put both of us in that situation to be frustrated as he's feeding on your energy, you know? So when you get stressed out, then he start showing his ass even more because he knows that you're stressed. And so now he stressed so he just wants to raise. Hell, right. Well, and it's one of those things where it's like, did you ever have you ever been out in public? And you're like, you know. It's probably way pastor trials by the time in the child's during. Attention the mom gets frustrated at the kid. We'll know you should have probably left two hours ago ride your kid to bed like it's one of those things where it's like, okay. This is probably my own right in between. Yes. It's like, you know, he just woke up we did drop off. We normally go home have a snack than have lunch and take a nap. So why am I sitting here fucking his schedule? And then stressing us both out, right? Yeah. I know and I will say for the first like three years of Jackson's life. No joke that we're going to be home and showered and ready for bed by thirty. That is not even a question. Don't ask. It's not an ago shovel in our life. Don't ask me to do anything past that time or around that time I need to have in my ass headed home by like seven at the latest. Yeah. No, I'm the same way. I mean, the older too. I can stretch their by times a little bit. But no, I'm not it's not worth it for me to do that to Lux at all not at all. All right, guys. Well, that's all we have time for today. So thank you for listening, and we will be back next week with more crazy, mom stuff. There's a few stories that we want to tell you guys about that. We didn't have time for today. And if you guys are not following us on coffee combos podcast on Instagram. Make sure you follow us over there. 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891 Snips from the Top Floor?  (TFTTF Slice)

Photography Tips From the Top Floor

09:41 min | 9 months ago

891 Snips from the Top Floor? (TFTTF Slice)

"Uh-huh hey here's your second slice sitting in the living room room at my laptop going through emails being. I sometimes do this. I sit here in the living room. As opposed to my I studio slash office. Because there's a lot less distraction here and yeah going through emails screwing doing stuff like preparing preparing for the next polished proper episode of tips on the floor. And I just got this Chris. It's Bernie Goldberg on the top gold pulling good social network and I heard your news sliced method of doing tips on the top floor which I really like. I'd I'd call. It sniffs from the top floor because here elegantly snipping content and making it into audio collage for us. Who really enjoy being there when something happens? Eureka moment a mistake a shared reflection so I hope you continue doing this. Because your method of slicing and producing on the fly is high quality audio content because it's Fi- quality content. Who just happens to be smoking do it in your gravelly voiced morning voice? I don't care it makes even more authentic. There are two things I need to point out to you first of all the thing. I don't like about what you did. Is You made me make this voice clip right away and when I did while walking to work I put my messenger bag into a pile of dog shifts so I may wipe it off the bye or might just keep it there remembering that. I got shit from the top floor while listening to your snips in the second thing. Is this this particular episode that new format I think is episode. Eight ninety did not include the very nice red coffee cough button so I like to make sure that stays on these clips and then third. Is there a way for all the show notes to have an automatic link that goes to the page that you have described your sepa payment methods. That would work for me. It's very habit I've got shitty MESSENGER BAG now. I have. You met your buds. Thank you Chris and I'd like to pay you for all that. Enjoy Siberia and let we now. Have you ever tried to Vodafone option instead of doing this. East Him Nance curious lots of guys come to Ireland and I think you will few photos. She discovered the Vodafone reached deep into the hinterlands of Acreage is space above places where the master normally located Vodafone Mass network is really strong in the British isles. Maybe not in Siberia though enjoy keep one slice people snap him like these by for now awesome. Hey Bernie thank you so much I. I spoke your named numerous times in the in the Patriot supporter listed in the past. And it's great to hear voices took the nerdy the voice to the name. So thank you for sending this in that. The Voice Mail just made my day. Okay let me address your points one by one once. Once I wiped the tears from my face snips snips on the top floor. I clearly missed an opportunity here. So I'll I guess I'll still leave it at a slice thing in the titles titles for consistency reasons but yes nets on the top floor has a ring to it. So maybe I'll use that in the future. Secondly I'm really sorry for your Shitty Messenger bag and I really recommend you wipe this off because otherwise there's little chance for you to kind of come to associate tips on the top floor with poop and we don't really want that to happen do we third Awesome idea about the coffee button. It's back of course yeah. I'm learning as we go. Even though people honestly people hardly use it so I think it serves as a as a little nudge a little reminder for everyone that there is someone here putting some serious time into making this content content and publishing it in polishing then whatever so yeah the buttons back this also as you suggested a link to all these other support things including the option because I mean no currency conversion fees no donation platform fees is. Ah euro-zone if you are in the zone then that is really absolutely by far best option. So linked to that is in the show as I've been polished the support page a little bit to make it easier and let's see what else Vodafone the phone. Yeah that might be a great option on the British isles. Actually I remember I had Vodafone Sim when I was is there while ago. Now that's not necessarily for me anymore because that's part of the euro roaming zone so my German. A contract covers said but internationally at least with here in Germany Vodafone cartoon Germany. They don't really offer the the kind of international data that kind of price level that I'm willing to pay and I do need a lot of data so it will be the SIM option for the foreseeable future and it's really very convenient. You know there are more and more good options coming on on the market market as we speak and the one the one I got was originally created for ships cruise and now these become available to everyone so just with an APP on your phone so compared to what I had before. This is really a game changer for me especially the as I as I can have the local data plan while still being available on my real phone number for voice so yeah up up really works for me. One last thing I do now realize that I that I consistently mispronounced your name. So I'll do my best to dude to write from now Bernie Goldbach and I'm also very sure that I probably butchered a whole bunch of other names when I read the patron supporter list. And Yeah if you feel that your name deserves a bit more care then do what Bernie did send a quick shout helped me get that pronunciation right right and the shoutout best place is still voice at half dot com thank you. Here's one more piece of news that just came in and I have to. I have to say thanks to this. This community coming together because I got a message for for mark who is a listener and who had brought up. The suggestion is kind of. Yeah of course obvious one and to hear it and I really mark for that. It's about how to how to get more engagement on the assignments thus last a polished episode. I talked talked about the one I gave out the next alphabet. Assignment I talked about. Yeah the lack of engagement and of course one thing that can help is if we have like a common spot that where we can meet where we can show what we did for the assignment where we can talk about. This is like the the bi-monthly assignments that that Matt Armstead does but these are way more informal right. There's like okay. Do whatever everyone. We're not going to talk about the pictures on something among you. This is something you do for yourself not to be mentioned on the show even though I might pick up a few if I it's like it but this is something that mark brought up that why don't we just create a channel on the slack. Yeah obvious right. So there is now a channel on the slack and the one thing that makes that work is mark volunteered to put those assignments in there and create a threat for every assignment. So every time I give out another one of these little alphabet assignments then mark will create an entry in the channel and and a threat for you to discuss for you to exchange ideas exchange photos that kind of stuff so yeah I think that makes perfect it so mark. Thank you so much for for stepping up and for for volunteering this is this is what community did you should be like Millard. Awesome all right. That's it for this snip. SNIP slice. Whatever thanks for listening to next time take your?

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The Rocks $15 Million XFL Investment | 8/6/20

Pat Gray Unleashed

1:34:46 hr | 2 months ago

The Rocks $15 Million XFL Investment | 8/6/20

"The trump campaign has a special offer just for you. President trump really wants to give you a science twenty twenty make America Great. Again, hat he wants to make sure the lucky winner is one of his top supporters be sure to winter soon, because this is an opportunity, you don't want to miss this offer is only going to a select group of supporters and you're one of them all. You have to do is text grey to eight eight, zero, two today for your chance to win assigned twenty twenty. Make America. Great again hat and own a piece of history again, that's gre Y two, eight, eight, zero to two to enter to win this contest and join president trump in the fight to keep America great for four more years. This was painful Donald J trump for President Inc.. Is here on the blaze radio network. Here with US triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety three also at PAT unleashed on twitter. You might notice that Keith had a rather serious boosting. Recently. It was a it was a big be. You know. Can like in Santa Claus the movie when he comes in all bloated fit like eighty pounds fatter than he on the Friday before how about those Atlanta Braves? It's right. Keith. I don't know about the game last night. No, he didn't. Evergreen. Falcons. Lost Play Jalousie to the Connie also this morning. I did okay. Good. Good good. So. Jeffey obviously filling in for Keith, who's taken a couple of vacation days. And you know what a great time in the world to go on vacation isn't it? Just a great time. People are not going on vacation I mean. Where do you go I all? All these restrictions going to and fro. I mean, you go into a state without being locked down for fourteen days? Seems like, yeah. We we have some really close friends who came in from Utah last night they had against one of their flights got cancelled. So the flight that they had comes here and then stops and so. We went to the airport and picked him up and it doesn't resume until this morning you know because of all the cancellations in the weirdness that's going on, but they booked a thing in. Cancun. And that was twenty, two percent occupancy. That would be kind of cool. If you do go on on a vacation time, it's kind of a cool time because you don't have anybody crowding the beaches and social distancing you're good. Yeah, exactly. So you got that going for you. triple eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety-three also very conveniently. because. My show prep is on my computer. Just decided to restart and download all kinds of new stuff. Let's helpful. Yeah. UPDATES and stuff will never know that his even there won't ever use but mandatorily just shut down restarting. In Q. But don't worry because it's already two percent complete. So I would think by eight, thirty, nine, o'clock it might be at four percent. It might`ve Well. Oh look at that. It's working on updates now. Good. Story. So don't turn off my computer I. Didn't even let you do that. If you know this is like A. It's like it's like it's communism. The fact that it just shuts down on its own and and decides when that's going to happen normally gives you a warning. Does it normally gives you a not always think always does because I remember telling it was okay to restart itself right before my show. Pretty, sure I wouldn't have said that's okay. I've been a toy. No, really no not my first one. Anyway not my first choice. So we had this really fun. This is kind of cool because we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get into the Presidential election a little bit we've got. Biden work on deciding who is vice president is GONNA be there talking about. Win They'RE GONNA to do debates if and win who's going to moderate. So there's a lot of stuff that starting to crank up 'cause we are less than ninety days away from the election now. Right that we're within ninety days. I think it's eighty six or eighty seven right now event. Under under ninety days, which is just seems like that's an. Can't believe here yeah. Yeah. And So Biden's Biden's out actually campaigning and every time he does you just realize. Guys not all there. He's just not come on man. That's why I was surprised. This particular tweet was from the Cleveland Indians. Instead of Joe Biden let me read it to you. They just tweeted. If for you and it could field was and you for it was to be. Should you for ten thousand dollars? Would you do it? What. What? If for you and it could field. was and you for it was to be. Should you for ten thousand dollars? Would you do it? I'm not really sure. Don't quite know how to answer that. I guess that's that's made the rounds. De. Several. Years all hasn't really around sports. Yeah. There were a madden and somebody else actually tried to diagram at. On on their telestrator in the real thing for the Cleveland Indians desert where it started or. A made up. Thing that they try to have the sports announcers do okay and You know the telestrator I don't Madden and I forget who the other guy was. I was looking to see if I could find his name real quick Yeah Mike Fratello. Both tried to drag Graham the sentence on their telestrator and according to this. Both. Gave Up. So I. Would think you know either tweeted. Not necessarily by the Cleveland Indians. but maybe Joe Biden and even more likely maybe Al Sharpton it's one of those. Yes. We March and we must much about that be committed kinda thing. Right and we know that we know for sure that booger McFarland couldn't have done it. Monday night football. It looks as though they've made the you know they have taken the they made the change I made the. made the choice that that unleashed program gave them to flick the bugger. So. My flecked the border campaign where did yes. Yes. Actually work four hundred foreigner to the hall of fame has not worked and that's been a crusade for quite some time. Yeah. But flick the Burger which we just started six or eight months ago. Did work. Like They're going to have Steve Levy Brian Greasy and Louis Riddick, and then as a second team Chris Fowler and Kirk Street because maybe college football doesn't happen. That person. Kirk in there yet not bad. That's pretty good. He's okay. He's not bad and then as a backup you got. Kirker Fowler and herbstreet. Pretty solid. Probably they should have been there manually. The best. Yeah. But yes, college football right now they're not gonNA take them away from their trains day. No Way. True. But that's awesome that they finally did something campaign with it because. The Campaign. Well, how about that? All right. triple eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety-three ended pat unleashed on twitter. Now, we just flick the FAO. we'd be all said but that's not going to happen to save chief DC. Is Still. Still out there and and speaking until he's blue in the face and the guy talks, tellies, horses, everybody everybody listens to every word that flows out of his face because he's so brilliant and he's always been right. or The opposite of that I'm not sure which. Has He ever been right Even in the eighties. I, mean some of the things he did and said and decisions he made when he was battling, we were supposedly battling the AIDS epidemic in the early days. Some of those decisions were incredibly questionable and a little bit fishy in some cases. But he was being interviewed by Sunjay Gupta. And then they were taking some questions from people online and somebody. Asked him about will. Okay. What are you doing this First of all, how did this go? So badly when we're the United States of America. And you know and we've got a worse situation than most countries on earth. And secondly. What happens if we have another pandemic? Are you are you better prepared for it? Now? Here's what he had to say. Dr King, the title of this series is in public health means business. And this seems like we have business at all. The United States has four percent of the world's population. But twenty five percent of the world's Kobe cases and deaths. For Awesome for seconds by the way, Quick Update Twenty, four percent on my computer. Now, twenty four So we're skyrocketing through the update just so you know. All right listen. Influential as a catastrophe. Question is knowing what you now know. Would you do differently foot next pandemic would dream okay. Well I. Think there's two parts of that question. One is you know how we how we might explain how this happened than what I would do different, and then what you would do different for the next pandemic I think preparedness we put together Pandemic Preparedness Plan as we were trying to respond to the threat of the pre pandemic bird flu back in two thousand and five, and again he was a plan that was a reasonable plan and in fact when it was evaluated independently. By Johns Hopkins, it stated that it was our preparedness for a pandemic was essentially number one in the world. But what happened when the rubber hit the road on this and we did get hit we had the kind of response that was not as well suited. So what the dynamics of this outbreak is and what happened is that we had a bit of a disparate response we have we live in a very big country and we often leave the decisions about the implementation of. At the local level positive scene is yeah I. Gee that's called the constitution. I-. Hey. Don't you? Local level aided lake when the decisions that aren't specifically spelled out in the constitution by government belonged into the state. We often off. Them. To the state or local municipality. What insanity who would do that? He just he just talked about the structure that the founders setup. Yeah in China they've got centralized government. Yes. Would which sends out the mandate and everybody follows and they'll they have to people that have died from the Work really well, communism in this case worked really well. seriously. Have they list before thousand now? With the disease but only forty, six, hundred deaths. Last night. was last week, forty, six, hundred, and we have a hundred and fifty. Yeah of course ally. All right. Let's see what else had to say. The local level, and what we've seen is a great disparity in how individual states cities certainly responded the critical issue that I think we need to look at how we can get that down is that when you look at the curves and it relates to Sanjay's graph that when we went up and then started to come down, everybody got hit badly China got hit badly Europe particularly Italy France and Spain when they went. Up and they responded they came all the way down to a baseline so that when they started to Donny Oprah countries in a very careful way very if they had to deal with little blips that could easily be controlled. When you look at our curve, it's telling and that's the thing that bothers me we went way up and when we came down, we came down to a plateau of twenty thousand cases per day. That is not a good baseline we needed to get further down so that as we went along over weeks and months, we stayed at twenty thousand per day. Some parts of the country did very well, they came up, they came way down other parts of the country held it. So they didn't even go up, but there was so many different players as it were in the country that the totality of the country. That, some net of that was a flat line that was very high and then when we decided. With the guidelines of how we can open America again for reasons that we obviously couldn't say shut down forever was having terrible economic consequences terrible consequences on employment we decided we would try to take steps to open and when we did, we didn't do it uniformly some states did not pay attention to the the benchmarks or the checkpoints others did it fine but the citizen tree within a state or within a city actually did an oil and unfor- nominee and they said we're locked down. So now we're just going to let it fly. Now, you could say, no, that didn't happen. But the numbers tell you what happened because what happened is that as we began to open, we went from twenty thousand a day to thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, and we even peaked at seventy thousand new infections while deaths had gone down. Nicely that was good. Now, they're starting to go up because of the cases that went up. So we had a disparate response week responds. -gether we had someone up in somewhere down and they're part of the country you could look at that did very well. Yeah. Totally. As a nation as a nation, we are in that situation where we've got to get that control way down to a low baseline, right? Okay. So had nothing to do. With the thousands and thousands and thousands of people that went into the streets were yelling and screaming and breaking windows and setting fires and not social distancing in many cases not wearing a mask. But even if they were wearing masks there yelling and screaming and chanting right next to each other, the protests had nothing to do with it. Right. That drives me out of my mind like exist. It's because of our disparate response in the localities. That's what did it and we should have done it uniformly. Okay so the protests where Where ten thousand people were all jammed in together And chanting had nothing to do with it. That's it. That's interesting. That is interesting. A number people Nicole about that. I haven't. You, gotTa be kidding me. That's just it's despicable that they completely ignore the obvious cause of this. One of the main causes had to be those protests had to be. I mean. I'll never forget the shots of Los Angeles do we have the shots of Los Angeles on that street where the crowd stretches out for miles? They're all jam-packed to look at that. but the disparate. non-uniform. reopenings, we need to do it carefully we should've done it gambling. But I don't even know what I'm looking at here. What is that? That just What a Sea of signs is, all eyesight is all I. See I see some people that are fighting against a worse disease called racism. That's not. Look at that. That had nothing to do with and then all of a sudden. Three weeks or a month later Los Angeles is on fire with this disease again really. Yeah what a coincidence. must've been the disparate response that Los Angeles had. Right. You know to the to the virus to reopening I, don't know L. A. Ever reopened. Did they maybe not like Texas the a little but yeah no, like Texas at all. It was. These protests Completely, caused this not completely, but I'm sure we're a main cause certainly add. Greatly, to the greatly to the numbers, there's no question in everybody's afraid to say it Yep. They refused to say they won't they act like it had it didn't even happen. And it's still going on by the way. Yes. Still happening today. Portland is under what seventy days of siege. 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OR VISIT PATRIOT MOBILE DOT COM SLASH PAT Patriot mobile dot com slash path. Pat Gray. welcome to it. It's Thursday already I the weeks go by so fast. I. Just I get my head around it. was every time every time I say that? I hear Stuart my head going yeah. The time stays the same flies by so fast. I doesn't though it doesn't say. Something different something has changed I don't know what it is but something has changed does feel it. We live in a world of feelings. Yes, right. We're based on feeling it does feel like. Things do happen fast feels that I don't know why it feels like twenty four hours twenty four hours in. Yeah. Feels like a day is more like an hour. A week is more like a day by father in law's always always giving him a hard time because he's like, that's when a dollar was a dollar. Have like. Adult seller still dollar you know what I'm talking about. And I do yes roy is it does feel like time goes by fast and speaking of dollars the rock doing Johnson just used some of his dollars to buy the. xfl. That a good investment you think. They've tried it twice now and twice a kind of didn't work out but him being the face of it that might help pretty strong. Yeah and he did promote pretty heavily before they debuted in the spring, and then of course, he got shut down after what two games three maybe. Because, of COVID. So. He. Is An eight time WWe heavyweight champion Great was great times. They wrote him into the script as the winter dry the though. Wow, that's. Egypt's down. Try to make says. Come on the WWE. Hit was awesome. No, it was awesome. Ever been on. Yes. That is will never be awesome I saw him and Monday night at Monday night Roz several times and they were great in rate. Yeah they were grow. You've actually been to them all my elvis my oldest son was really big into it and so at the time they did all kinds of events in Tampa when I was living in. Tampa. Yeah and so we used to go all the time. Yeah. What? Time. It was tremendous fun. What do you think he paid for the XFL? Did you have you seen the story? Do you know? I have seen the I. Don't remember the whole xfl He bought the whole league. To by the NFL I can't even. Cost Right. xfl. billion. I'll answer you not seriously but I think, I do know the number of he paid a billion dollars. No, you did not have access and wasn't quite ten fifteen million. I've ever seen half the Higher League was sold to Dwayne the Rock Johnson for fifty fifty, million. He does ten minutes movie. It covers his that's right. That's right. Well, you think, wow, how does he afford? Buying an entire football league right? Because it's kind of a, it's kind of bargain. Bargain ran. That's how you when you walk by the. The racks at Walmart and there's a whole bunch of movies in there. So. What he did I know the rocks what I will get the xfl today yeah. just an impulse buy. That's all it was and so I don't know if anybody can revive it maybe it's doing Johnson. we'll see if I to watch. Yeah. It kind of. Fun To watch how he revives it. It'd be fun to see him try to you know what he's going to do with it, but they just keep trying to build a football league all to the NFL and it just it's never it's never worked maybe turns around and sells it to the NFL for thirty million and walks away with a profit and we had done with it. Yeah. Yeah. You know we just couldn't wish I could have made it. Work I. GotTa got a movie to make. I don't know if the NFL ever be. Interested in paying money for a product that nobody watches though. That's kind of been the issue with the really yeah. That's been the So I don't know we'll see though but good luck to the rock also This is Great Richard Petty motorsports. Just offered bubble wallace. Who is the black race car driver aware of bubble. Ownership stake. In in Richard Petty motorsports. Registration Yeah No, it's good. It's of. Part of his new deal as his contract expires this season we're in discussions with him about an extension that includes ownership, of course, the team. Not only does he have to be a race? Car driver with them. Wow gotta be part owner right can't let them not be now our our NASCAR expert rob in the next room. a he he knows about this kind of stuff and I. It's my understanding rob that he has never won a race right has he ever finished even in the top ten. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh when so He's never won. Ready Won. The truck series Yeah Okay Played. Baseball okay. Really. Yeah. All right. y you want someone that's finished in the top ten or top five and not. Want. THEM TO BE PART OF OWNERSHIP. Yes. Yes. You really do you. WanNa he's aware of all levels of the race. I just it's interesting to watch what's going on right now and see how people are just. Bending over backwards. Breaking themselves in half to. Include Voices. Es. Make more voices heard. Yes. Okay. That's exactly right. That's. Where the words I was looking for Jeff thank you? You're welcome because I think that's what's going. On. What's going on we're? Voices, we're going to give you one of those voices in a few minutes We don't have time before the before the break but Oprah Winfrey you're gonNA. Love. Her voice and what she is saying right now about more voices or or less voices or the voices that were sick of listening to. Voices from Whitey. I'm tired of Whitey so also. Spent years. Years Creating this brand. Of Inclusion. Of everyone can lead. Sure. Well. Kind of personified that right? Yeah. Coming from nowhere and now she's a billionaire. But I mean she's multi. How much Oprah's worth today exact a lot overall you know yeah I mean yeah. She's worth a lot. Yeah. She has a few homes to go away to She doesn't necessarily live the same dumped like the rest of us, right And so you'd think. That someone like that would be welcoming. To others you would think that wouldn't you? Want to help you can do it too or Darna. Out there instead of it's impossible for you because of Whitey. Or whatever the I mean you can you can listen to what she has to say decide for yourself. What exactly she is saying but really White is responsible for a lot of things. We've. We've held back a lot of people and we're still holding back now you might think you're not. But you are so i. don't want to hear your winding or your bellyaching about it. Matter what you think. You're a bad person. You're evil and you've been holding people back and I'm sick of it and then so it was oprah I think. So she's she's talking about it. We are definitely there. the. It is interesting when you talk about I I, see I see questions all the time of what we can do to be more inclusive with bringing in more. Latin X voices of more African American voices. So the days of merit and. my every time I see a question like that I would think well. I would let them attempt to create an audience and then. If they do. Great than they've got some success exactly but. That's not really what they're doing. No, it's really not what they're doing is Or instead of discriminating against black people now, the discrimination is being switched around turned one hundred and eighty degrees, and and now it's going to be on white people in we're already. We're already being instructed every day on how bad we are how responsible we are for everybody else's problems. It's all our fault. and. If you don't accept that that shows just how racist you really are. You can't even defend yourself without being racist. Staggering to me. And to come OUT OPRAH WINFREY'S MA billionaire. Is, just amazing. All right triple eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three also at pat unleashed on twitter more coming up. It's Pat Gray. Unleashed on the play is true. So, as jeopardy. Filling in for Keith today tomorrow. Is. It next week tour is back next week. You know pat I honestly don't. Do Very? Little. Okay. If I find out, I'll find out sometime in the next couple of days that he's not going to return I'll be here I see. Okay. That makes sense. That's good. Thank you for your well. All right we're talking about Oprah and her little get together. I don't WanNa she had some kind of special. and. She was talking about people's Whiteness in the white privilege and. It's it's about time. It's about time. Here's what Oprah had to say this. To say. White people there are white people who are not as powerful as the system of white people the caste system that's in place system. Promoting. Where they are on the wrong. Of Success still have their whiteness. They still thank you don't have their whiteness. No matter what you can be poor dirt doesn't matter you still white. So things are better for you. I mean you know what screw you I'm I'm I'm calling bs on this pile of stinking garbage I'm sick of it. During this racist BS session she actually got a couple of loser white people to admit their races, of course. I can't those those are the beatings that they have. The forest gatherings at city municipalities and businesses. You can't walk out of there unless you admit that you're a racist right right? She says whites have a leg up. You still have your whiteness. That's what the term white privilege is. It means the whiteness still gives you an advantage no matter what it is the fundamental issue. So then during the discussion, Oprah talked to her white guests. Who talked about their own personal come to Jesus moments in admitting that they too. MIGHT JUST BE RACIST One Man Seth told Oprah. Yeah he must be a racist because he's never been actively anti-racist. What What is that? So then Oprah says, will you've become woke during this period and realized in that awakening that you are racist right? I just WanNa know how that happened. Well. What happened Oprah was is that you know black people like you started telling me that I'm a racist and. You. Know you're lumping a whole. Race into that category based on their skin color and I just bought into it. Because I can't think for myself. That's really what happened. I'm too much of a miserable coward to sit here and defend myself. Isn't that great I've never realized that I was a racist until you told me that I'm racist I've racist and I need to be antiracist be not racist. Stop White People, stop this madness, her stop it. She's getting this one of the things, her Oprah Book Club of this week our this month she promoted the the book cast, which is why she keeps using cast the book, the origins of our discontents. unspoken caste system that has shaped America and shows how our lives today are still defined by a hierarchy of human division. How fascinating that is coming from a stinking billionaire black woman two and a half billion, a woman and a black woman, and she's two and a half billion dollars toward a small town. In Mississippi how did you get out of that caste system? How'd that happen we? Well, we let one slip through the cracks. I. Guess Right. We're so racist, we can't catch them all. Yeah, we can't. We throw that tuna net out there we catch as many as we can do Tang. It's in occasionally we catch a few dolphins you know in white people. So we accidentally catch you white people and keep them out of the top rung of the Caste System and then every once in a while you know one of the P. One of the people we don't want to be with us. Will slip through and even sometimes exceed anything. We can possibly dream thankfully you're you've realized that. Yeah. Yeah. Now that you've now that I move succeeded down woke now that you've succeeded and you look back at that caste system. Realized Oh, you know what? This is despicable stuff. It really is what is this but the same racism. The exact same racism they're fighting against. It's now just being directed at us. It's not right and it's not okay. and. If we don't stand up to it, we're going to be Dang. Sorry very very soon. Really sorry. It's unacceptable. Fortunately, there been some blacks who have stood up and said the same thing that the that's madness and they've told Oprah. that it's it's disgusting what she's saying I mean it's. Garbage is what it is. And it's amazing that she's willing no I I don't know what happened. Wow. because. For so long at least I thought for so long that she was part of this group that at least was trying to uplift. Yeah. Everyone? Yes. Right. Everyone has an opportunity. That doesn't seem to be the message. Now do know a whole different direction now they'll be at your gates to Oh so I don't know why you. Yeah. Oh WHOA, when the ANTIFA crowd comes, they're not going to skip over her off Oprah off billionaire billionaires are evil. We were Ju- We've been told a million times by the end of the world there shouldn't be billionaires there shouldn't be them and she is one. So how do you justify that? How do you rectify that situation? Is. It's beyond anything I I don't think a year ago. I would believe that this is possible. I mean look at what they're doing right now. Even, people like Oprah Winfrey. The most successful monetarily probably black woman certainly in the country I would think she's got to be one. I don't top five at least. Yeah. She's got to be. and. There's a cast you formally come at least was yes. Uniformly loved around the country and the world this either says that she so confident that nobody's going to to stand up to this. or She just doesn't care anymore because she's made hers she's where she needs to be, and now she can really say how she feels. Maybe. That's what it is. I don't know. I don't know. It's despicable. Despicable and I'm not just GONNA roll over and play dead for it's just it's got to stand up to it. Otherwise, we're going to be very. Very, sorry online. Also Kelly Leffler. She's a US senator from Georgia. And she is also the owner of the WNBA's Atlanta dream. She's a little unhappy now about some of the. New Yeah Well, the players on her team showed up wearing t shirts with their opponents name on it. They're campaigning essentially for her opponent because she said, something about black lives matter being Marxist and she doesn't want any part of it. And so now they're they're pissed and they're taking it out on her. Mommy pull the plug yes. Exactly. Exactly, she wrote a letter to WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert. ASKING THE LEAGUE TO REVERSE ITS DECISION TO EMBLAZON team jerseys with black lives matter and say her name and replaced the statements with American flags. Why again because him the organization is a Marxist organization and one that is fighting against the nuclear family. And so she's paying for it with her team showing up on the court with their opponent's name on it while. She's the owner of the stink. Now you might think what does she made money? She bought a WNBA right. Back. I don't know what? Thirty, eight, thirty, nine dollars a bit to the rock paid more for the XFL. Oh by far. By far we don't have much table. Yeah Thirty, eight, thirty, nine bucks. Thirty, it was thirty, eight, ninety, five, or thirty, nine, ninety, five. The payment of eighteen as you? Yes. Yes she paid. 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Everything everything in the city by now has been spray painted graffitied and it just it looks like a third world country. Now. Portland has been virtually destroyed I don't know how they do it. I mean there's a new Gallup poll out now that talks about how The number of black Americans, wanting police to spend the same amount of time or more in their neighborhoods. So you know that is a shift. Now I mean, we're actually starting to see people say you know? I'M NOT A. Fan of people destroying things. Yeah. Maybe getting rid of the police wasn't exactly the right thing to do. Know. Now, there's nobody to protect us. So. that. Kept my business from getting smashed and looted. Yeah. Those are that bad guys. Right maybe we want him to stick around just a little while longer. But here's a look at some of what's going on in. Portland right now, just thirty minutes ago Portland police released new information about the protests and North Portland last night outside of the Portland. Association building and they declared that situation a riot around one thirty. This morning that is after they say that protesters broke into the Portland Police Association building damage the office, and then set fire to that building Portland. Say One that that that breaking is under investigation. PORTLAND. Police say that they are also investigating someone firing shots at a nearby convenience store around twelve thirty. Happens. It happens. Watches. Yes most shots, shots fired shots. Video. The Coin Sixteen was there when the shots were fired from a car as it sped away according to police a fight broke out in the parking lot of the convenience store just a block away from the Portland Police Association building officers say right before those shots were fired that there were even more gunfire they say one on a nearby mobile street one car was hit multiple times. No one was hurt by their incident, and then just before eleven twenty, eight truck was seen flying through a line of fences. The protesters shrager into the street the truck had sparks flying everywhere. Money. Or. Psychosis, stuck. With it no one was hurt in this incident. Officers say they spoke with that driver and the incident is under investigation and Portland police are saying that they did not use any tear gas last night to disperse the crowds and everything ended up clearing up about three, thirty four. Well, that's not bad. Yeah. The only rioted until three thirty in the morning I mean there's More buildings that haven't been destroys your sure. There's a lot of buildings in Portland. It's a fairly big city and so there's more to burn before it's completely destroyed. We have not destroyed everything. What do you bellyaching about with these mostly peaceful protests a couple of shots fired. And saw. Who among us you know thank you jeff. Who among us hasn't driven down the street and a couple of shots, crowds of people come on now. Are We that picking that we'd say no rioting and no shots fired. What do you WanNa Perfect Society sorry. We're not going to be able to get their. Game. I don't know how do you come back from this I? Really. I don't know I. Don't the country could come back. Yeah. But Portland can Portland come back from this A long time you know I was really worried about Seattle, and then they finally finally retook control of their city while they're pitting. Started they're starting to attack the the leaders, right? That's what did it. Yeah. When you went to the mayor's house. Okay. Now you've gone too far. Now they went to the one City Council Lady's House and she's pissed in Seattle Yeah Yeah and she's saying they don't Like this is ridiculous. This is going on there at my house or my neighborhood. y'All really funny how that happened in the weird. You didn't care about any of the businesses that those people. Hey for them. Yeah. That was fine. People are just blowing off some steam downtown. What are you a racist? Let him blow off some steam they're pissed right them alone. They're not doing anything. They're mostly peaceful right? You know until eleven thirty twelve at night then they just they only riot until three thirty. It's not like they rioted until dawn. Well, that was it was in Portland they did right little. True. All right I take it back never mind. Still, it's fine, right To Your House. Or their of your front yard different story. The night they said, they were coming to my house or a house like mine I I was pretty prepared just in case. People are getting in trouble right I. Mean we've Got People Missouri We've got the guy in La. Who greeted the black lives matter movement at his door with a weapon oblak man by the way one nope. Just welcomed him at the door like what are you doing at my house get off my he's being charged yes. Right mean it's out of control. Sure is out of control. But we're making the apocalypse fun. Yeah. That's right. So stick with us with your watch more coming up. That way. So stupid. Triple. Eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three. Why do some of the things we do? I don't know I don't I don't know I don't know maybe. What am I resisting? The. Institutionalization of the human psyche or the manufacturer of something or other. I don't know maybe. Maybe maybe. What was? Who's conception under what pair underway? Paradigm? I'm just resisting resisting. collectivisation, devastate. Psyche I'm not sure but I'm gonNA tell you. This is a symbol of. The gun from the Earth. There you go. Okay. So that's that's your deep thought for the day. Okay. Thank you. We had the other one in the fake Cleveland Indians tweet that was a variety thought, right? Yes, it was so. This actually made more sense than that one. Did it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't understand either of them. So I, wasn't sure but why? I. Don't know what am I resisting know that the collectivisation of manufacturing. Is, it the institutionalization of the human psyche I'm not sure. Oh. Okay just. Got Himself into some little hot. Water. Over the years, the three, the gun and other and other things. Other things can look it up for yourself All right. There's a student at Fordham who is well used to be at. Fordham. Now he's suing them for kicking him out. Kicked them out of school over a Social Media Post. But it was such a terrible post long though you won't believe what this is going to be able to say, well, I hesitate to but I'm going to see and maybe it'll have to be. bleeped. Okay. But he's Chinese immigrant and So his name is Austin Tong. And What he did was share a photo of himself holding legally owned gun on Instagram to honor the nineteen eighty, nine Tiananmen Square massacre who how dare you universities don't necessarily like that no, they don't. The, the school also took issue with the Post that was apparently critical of black lives matter houses persons to walk around. How is he's don't know. Wow I don't know. His lawsuit insists that the school discriminated against him and attempted to suppress his first. Amendment Rights. That sounds about what they did. The sounds like what they did even though a significant motivation for tongs social media posts was his desire to recognize a historically significant event for Chinese Americans. Now the dean of Students Keith Eldridge informed Tong that the school would be conducting an investigation into a social media post because they reportedly made an I'm quoting now members of the Fordham Community feel threatened to a Bo. If these pathetic little darlings. Feel threatened when they're not being threatened in any way. they're the ones who should be tossed out of school and sent back home to their mommies. Please can we get a grip on this? Agree then we please. By all, that is holy. For the holy love of Pete whoever pizzas? and. We get a grip on this stuff. No of course not. No. No. We. Can't. And it's GonNa get worse if. If a Democrat gets elected. Anytime, in the future to the presidency, it can't be you know not just twenty twenty Mike Digit is again Democrats never again be elected. As president of the United States there too extreme, too radical there too far left. When. It's when it's so bad. It's been this way for a while but it's so bad that the Revolutionary Communist Party USA. Is just endorsing the Democrat Party every time they don't even have to run their own candidates. Why? BECAUSE DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNISTS? These essentially are Marxist Socialists Communists and they're fine with the Communist Party. The share so much in common they just say, yeah, we endorse Joe Biden which they just did again this week his time as well. I mean universities are all over of our businesses universities all over are just tearing down history and and just eliminating costly right I mean the University of Buffalo are getting rid of something that well, thank God. Thank, God they're getting they're removing all references to Millard fillmore. Yeah I I hate that. Guy. Was the former president. Talked about how bad Miller? Was Thank you I hate that I mean, look he's a former president share. He helped found the institution at the University of Buffalo. General. Okay but he also had a willingness to sign. The compromise of eighteen fifty which include and how many times do we talked about the compromise of eighteen fifty if we talked about it once it's you know we. were, talked about it once because it included fugitive slave act. And that his name we can't even game say his name. I don't WanNa see his name. Picture. Nothing. We dig him up and kill him again and then put him back in the ground. So we ought to do with me, I could feel more thankfully I could go to buffalo again because I know the University of Buffalo has scrapped Millard fillmore stopping you I said a number of times I want to go to buffalo this weekend but not as long as Millard fillmore they're. Like Millard fillmore dead Jeffey. But his memory lives on had. Signed the compromise of eighteen fifty. Wow, I know. Look that included the fugitive slave act my friends I know in eighteen fifty. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So so get rid of him. Yes. He's gone gone is scrubbing everything. As you might say, he's been gone for the hundred and forty years but that's not enough though it's it is not enough. The university is committed to fight systemic races. Thank heaven good and by getting rid of mentioned. Yeah. Picture of. Millard fillmore. Yeah. That's their way of helping. Good. So well, that's GONNA. Fix things because a lot of people have suffered because of Millard fillmore in the twenty first century. He's a lot of people who would have great jobs right now in beautiful homes and fabulous spouses worked for that Freakin Millard fillmore. Damn. PhD. Millard fillmore Kaoh God. Only at word for Millard fillmore. Be Successful person in life. Every day I have. Billard fillmore building at the university, and I can't and every day I fall down and convulse as try to pass by. Wind up crawling the rest of the way. To get away from it so so bad. But. finally. So finally they're taking some yes. Aren't taking accident dislike positive action to good. Thank you was systemic. Racist University of Buffalo. Yeah okay. All right. Great. 'cause like I said so many people suffer every day in the year twenty twenty over Millard fillmore. Boy What a world. Triple Eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three, a guy tried to fill Millard fillmore seat. The presidency. Joe Biden. Yesterday was talking about his China policy. This is good stuff. I think you're GONNA like this. This might turn around on the trump thing. Okay. No, it's okay. Now have swung back to Biden check this out the way trump the way China will respond is when we gather the rest of the world that in fact in days in and free and. Trade and making sure that we're in a position at the world's that we deal with who right way who, and in fact, that's when things began to change of course, with China when the Chinese behavior change okay. Right. So that's his policy right there you're. You're like, wow, that's. All it it's a solid I'm for your four now. Who you voted for now, you have a brain in your head. It's Joe Biden. Thank you. Am I right. Thank you. Other China policy alone yes. Yes. China policy alone and some people have been asking you know about his cognitive abilities civilities yes. Trump is made that A. Focused on that a little bit fact. So many people he was. It I don't know why after the China policy, I don't know why you think to yourself as sharp as a tack man is is sharp as a ten. The same show that he gave us his China policy on he was asked about his cognitive. Vice President. Your opponent in this election president trump has made your mental state, a campaign topic and when asked in June if you've been tested. Full cognitive decline. You've responded that you're constantly tested in an effect because you're in situations like this on the campaign trail but please clarify specifically have you taken a cognitive now I haven't taken the. Taken test because you're slipping man come on that's like saying you before he got in this program, you take a test where you're taking cocaine or not. What do you think What are you Jodi? To president trump who. If he's sniffing and. Doing this the whole interview and he's got white residue under his nose I. There might be reason that's the equivalent of Biden. Who screws up every day shows us. He doesn't have the cognitive ability necessary to be president of the United States and now all of a sudden these are or why would I why water I listen to some listen to my China policy. Listen to these a great. Plans and policies that I've already outlined. Doremus? OFF CARE. Medical School or not not now the campus the. Medical School though. I WANNA be clear. Be Clear. Not going nuts. I'm not sure you're not medical school. He's not sure if it was a medical school or where the hell he spoke where. I was somewhere doing something and I i. but you know I'm not going crazy Salvador and and. Just. And says. Say Look. Folks eliminate one tax loophole out of trillion, six, hundred, billion worth a trillion, six, hundred, trillion, four, hundred, three, hundred, four, hundred. A billion, billion, four, hundred, hundred, million meals. Four. Hundred Billion dollar. Insane so much not. As. Cost about seven hundred, seventy, million, million dollars over ten million, trillion long lime friend and she's a friend. She's bend my friend in and out of public life is she your friend or? Could do. It's GonNa. Take billions of dollars to do it, and we can afford to do it. We can't afford can't afford not to I. Think. sector. Sues me I wouldn't have. No. Sam Okay downgrading my say Senator Booker set a fact is that the bills that the president that excuse me the future president here that that that centers talking about? Another country. On Crimean. He saying that was president. My boss President my balls. Take, my shotgun three. Now have five because my decide died by three of his three of his yet three. Doesn't make. Drug prices. Is Not, we're no longer using chemical based things all. Cancers and other issues, related immune system or by. Orne what. NATO. Will reward. Title. Rewards stockholders. Gentlemen. He's deliberately completely ignoring the legitimate authority to Congress he's doing what he was he with the complicity. With we also we need teachers. My wife is a fulltime teacher taught all all. Being during President during we choose truth over facts. Why would he take cognitive test? Why? Why? Why would come by the way you know I sit on the stand. And it get hot. I got a lot of oriented. Turn turn. A. Blonde on Sun in. Reaching the pull up my leg down. Change that watch the hair. Come back up again our. Roaches, I learned Kazan. Learned. About. His Lad, he's loved kids jumping on his lap. So why would he take a cognitive test? Why and he goes on in that interview that we? To to really be decisive on what he's GonNa say to President Trump over the cognitive test. Let's hear it. Why the hell would I take a test? Why would you right? It's like saying you before he got in this program. Where you're taking cocaine or not? What do you think new junkie? Are you a? Jodi say. President trump who brags about his tests and makes your state an issue for voters. This buddy. If he can't pulling out the difference between an elephant and a lion. I don't know what the Hell is talking about is you watch that come on and I I know you're trying to goad me but I mean I'm so forward looking to have he's forward does not to sit with the president or stand with the President and debates. Funny at times. As. I joke with them you know. I should. Say Something I. Don't I probably shouldn't say anyway. Ma I am Joe very willing to let the American public judge might physical mental fill my physical mental fitness and how. To make a judgment about me why am laughing but it's not fun got. Me It's not funny. It is sad. It's sad but it's also. Frightening assurance is terrifying that the guy could become president of the United States we can't have that. I am judging his mental ability and fitness and he's not fit to be president know. How that is just standing. 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You can enroll in just minutes and see how many points you can add to your credit score. You'll be shocked how fast this can happen and how much you can benefit visit score master, dot, com slash pat score master, Dot Com, slash pat. Gray. Greg. Debbie with US triple eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three also at pat unleashed on twitter where Paltor Tillis tweets. I think I'll file a lawsuit against the Phil Morris. State. Because I didn't get my PhD or lavish lifestyle or. You thank you. Fall. Thank you Millard Fillmore ooh covid bullet twenty-three breaking news newspapers at Buffalo refused to publish the comic Strip Mallard bill more because of its connections with Millard. Fillmore. Nobody wants anything to do with Billard anymore. No. I know the University of Buffalo added a couple of names. Also, it's Millard fillmore and then two other names, James putt Putnam Peter B Porter who I don't know who these people are, but they were instrumental in creating the University of Buffalo they're to. It's about time they're God we can't have it finally. Duct tape freak tweets I had to do a report on Millard fillmore in the second grade. Fifth President out of a hat I can't remember a single thing. I learned about him except that he was the thirteenth president most forgettable president no Millard is no way to be seared into our minds. feared. Artificially awake tweets is there an amendment to the First Amendment that says we have the right to never have hurt feelings earth today's world? Yes. Sure. Seems like it doesn't it reality check is someone that's a mixed race maybe one white parent one black parent. Are they only half a racist? Can you imagine the internal turmoil in that person? Yeah you Barack Obama. Colin Kaepernick calling Cabernet you know if if it's amazing to me that they chose to be the race that's most. Picked on boarding to them most discriminated against according to them. Yeah. Why not? Be. White mention the never mention the fact that they're. They're part white and if you mentioned it I, think that's supposed to be racist. Now you can't mention it. It's like wait aren't you half white? Jerry, you dare you how dare you? Who are you Millan? Fillmore. Reality Check tweets after listening to Oprah Winfrey yesterday claiming the specific color make somebody raises reminds me of a little child that didn't get their way and saying anything they can even if it's wrong or allied to get a non-justified position across. Yeah We again, we gotTA stand up to it these just we can't let that lay. Triple Eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, thousand, three also pat unleashed on twitter We also had we we did the Biden on taking a test and we do. This we we show why would you test why? Why would he take a test I? Don't even understand the question to see I don't even understand it. And we got we had Joe. We showed you know how good he will be president big by his China policy bright. And we also down over of other things that JOE has said over the years and recently with the recent most of that stuff. That we aired frightening and is it is. Wasn't that long ago? Oh. Yeah. By the way one that long ago, and in that clip where he talks about the cognitive test, he also says that everybody let's it go but he says of I didn't take a test. Well, the question was you said, you take them all the time. Yeah. So yeah, have you. So obviously they're setting up they know he has they know he lied about it they're giving him the out to say that of course, right and his of his spokespeople Kate betting field. said the same thing that she was asked about it on Fox News yesterday here's what she said about the. Came up the other day and that press conference a help first time in eighty nine days and the question came from Doug mckelway and when he was asked about, he said I've been tested with regard to cognitive ability and I'm constantly tested I i. just didn't know what that test entailed kate. The. Well. First of all, he's been tested every single day that he's been on the campaign trail. You know he went through twelve debates and He's heated twenty five other candidates to become the Democratic nominee. Clear it wasn't. It wasn't. This wasn't a mental test that he took. You're talking about being. In life being tested being out on the campaign. For President of the United States. Blah Blah Blah Blah shut up. You guys lied and. View of admitted it now. Thank you. Yeah. We got it. You. Your liars can't never been an elephant alliance come up. So stupid. but yesterday, it was not a great day for the presidential candidates here was Donald Trump talking about you seventy part. 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That was good. please send help we were were in. We're in deep trouble right now please send help whether angels on High Aliens from another planet. Please just send help we need it right now. It's been. Man. All right we got some. tweets and some cattle were driving to the town. But The tweets at Pat Unleashed Jeff Droopy Thong. People should just stop paying taxes. If everyone did this, it would take for the government to sort through that mess plus they'd have less money to keep and hire people to sort through. Yeah, and agreed. Agreed. Called jail time though that's a lot of people don't just start doing that you first and then we'll see how that cross love. Yeah, I know. I know what we need a flat tax. That's why we yeah. Let's let's go flat tax fare tax we can have that. Petty Officer something we don't even mentioned by. With all, we don't with all the stuff going on There are some tax solutions that would really help and nobody's talking about the fact that Joe Biden is talking about raising taxes by trillions of dollars. He's even going to raise the death tax which is. Immoral and unconscionable to me. Ep Your whole life, and then at the end of your life after you pay taxes on everything you own. Now you also over the government half of everything you have why? They deserve. Thank you. Why are they entitled to that? They're not It's unbelievable and. Unbelievable I've told you the stop talking about it. But nobody is talking about we have turned off the printing press. No we have the printing press is a I mean we just continue to keep it oil. So it doesn't break down right and they continue to talk about we're going to. We're GONNA have more. Common within the next couple of days. Yeah. Because they're going to bail our stimulus more bailouts. Petty Officer. America tweets to Joe Biden. Just ask a black news anchor if he was a crackhead. That's thank you. If Trumpet said the cocaine, what are you a jumpy? That would be the the Ad Line. Yes it would. No doubt about that. That's great. Nice catch on that replaced. Joe Biden with Donald Trump in that interview trump no, he doesn't get away with that. Right? Exactly. From night squats I can't tell if I'm listening to the Joe Biden or if I'm just having several strokes at once. It is hard. Isn't it? It's hard. The humanity tweets bud has joe been to Manala. Our. I don't I don't know now his brother was though was brother made a bunch of money. They're actually real. Excel. Family man there. It's amazing. Covid, Blake when you have to clarify that you aren't going crazy when stumbling while talking, you may be going crazy. From Comrade, newbridge. We need to all out. We need we need to out. All Presidents especially, James K polk. Show was he? James. Was that one of our James Capel Tuesday facts. I. Don't think. So I don't think James Capel did anything to to warrant being called a racist Stomach racism but it's possible. Thunder Sixty one tweets it's getting to the point Jill Biden should be impeached for allowing this to happen to her incompetent husband. This is just sad. That's why we need the help we need. We need help sent soon. From Poppycock It wasn't an elephant and alliance. Joe It was a Rhino, alliance? That's right on the cognitive test. That's right. So we screwed that up to it was. Called it an elephant, right? Up to Oh. Don't talk down to me. I'm just guessing okay I don't remember Garrett thirty twenty, two tweets everytime Joe says come on man you know it's s kidding social distancing ghost where does James Capel fall on the forgettable president lived very near the top. Very I was looking at the time line. He may have been a big part of it really of racism. Yeah, he served he. Were mad at Millard for the eighteen fifty compromise and polk was just before Millard right in forty nine. Point Matt. So he was a big part of that racist fallacy went to war with Mexico. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. kick their butts sideways under poke. Its right. Their Butts I. Take that capable. That's right. From Tampa Ken. So as Jeff. As jeffey bend alone peak has been to triple peak on Mars. You probably don't understand that reference it happened during the Glenn show yesterday. We'll explain that later. Land grew are you of the body tweets When will we see the university started by Huggy Bear? Right. Starsky harsher hunts. My grandfather yeah you told me that was just A. Good movie. Used to watch it all the time. Yeah. Yeah there's grandfather. Yeah okay, yeah with huggy bear the. Police informant as the the pimp Well, you seem to remember what your grandfather told. Not. About it now. Okay. Well, no wonder then who loved the show at the time it was a great show I loved Starsky and Hutch. I was one of my favorite shows. Top Notch, show Obama's awesome. Yeah. They had a cool car with a stripe. Yes remember David Soul. He was one of the actresses David. Or Hutch I don't he was one remember which one was I think he was Starsky but I'm not sure but he came out with that song don't give up on his baby S. For David Big hit. DON'T GIVE UP ON A. What are the worst songs David? Skiing Hunch this morning on the all request lunch hour from David Soul. You Call, get those requests it early. and. If you do you're caller number seven right now you'll get a free lunch at Hardee's. Tomorrow tomorrow, we're giving away double prices a free loop from Harry's auto as an Arby's a Jehovah shake. Wow. A Jim. Okay. Yeah. That's you right that's with the Luba daycare. From Harry's. Come on. That's almost too much. I almost. All request, you can't do that every day as maybe a once a month thing throw out a double win like that. All right triple eight nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety-three, something interesting from from Senator Cruz yesterday he's he's got this. Was this on his podcast or was this as a senator? You this was going on. Well, he had a he had a hearing set up as part of a subcommittee hearing on ant AFA and first. Amendment know why they won't. First Amendment Rights. The. Democrats have with Antifa read. That's his point and that's his point is with the freedom of speech is that it's the right to peaceably a separate. Here's that exchange. And now they're all these attacks about black lives matter and what they're saying I mean coming of us even think that defunding police departments is it should be taken literally I mean I certainly don't don't so. Call Freedom of speech. And I'd say the people who support black lives matter and if they're calling for various boycotts and all that call freedom of speech, and that's what the searing title Chris GotTa. Look. At her phone now she just got a text speech. So all I. can see as we should all join hands. And denouncing was. US. Whatever words you want to use. Of Violent extremism of all stripes and I think we can all agree on that. So to constantly accused Democrats of not caring about that is really I can only say that you. Aren't listening. I hope this is the end of those hearings chairman. Anymore. Speeches thank you very much. I'm leaving. Oh. All right. I appreciate the all as always kind of uplifting words of Senator Rona. Great and I would also note that throughout her remark, she still did not say a negative word about Antiga nor has any Democrat here. A. Standard engage in medical game where they depend you're welcome to say something negative about Antifa right now. She's no I've already got my stuff in my hand I I gotta go. Can't listening declined to seek. So that is the position of the democratic. Party I love it. Nice. I wait a pin her down I know that's great. I know that's good stuff right there. Now. I gotTA. I gotTA. Stuff I gotta I gotTA. Go. It's a good thing. Just got a text when I was in the middle of speaking, they're telling me it's time to go time to I gotta run wish I could like to stay in say negative things but I, can't. So I won't I mean, don't take it literally. Don't take literally defined the police department she's got his. Nesting gear not listening Oh. Wow. No we're we're listening. We just did nothing coming out of your mouth of the that's negative about ANTIFA. And sees agonizing she is she is her I mean. They. All are, but she's among the lease up. Newsman agonizing ISM. Standard her yeah. It's hard to believe. All right. If you're trying to sell your home, you know what a challenge that can be. You need a really good realtor to get you through the process. If you need the house painted, they can take you through that neither debt for I. 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That'd be a good brand name. One. You're already there on that one. I'm not talking about they letter. Okay. So white people. Talking, about their privilege written all over their faces, check this up. You mean we're lucky to be white. Privilege we're privileged that people see us not a color privilege that we don't get stared at when we walk into the room. Followed, by security when we go shopping or pulled over limit in the wrong neighborhood shot. Because society. The setup circuits. For keeps it in place? And that's unfair. She to. ME. Too. I mean you to. Think I can't I can't do it. I can't do these are what the OPRAH'S WATT And they're getting they're getting it from all these complicit. Compliant. Cowardly white people who are the writing stuff with me on their faces and doing Asinine ads like that. It's embarrassing. It's ridiculous. It's despicable. We don't have to cave in to this in order to in order to lift up and and. And make sure that people of color which used to be a bad thing to say but now I guess it's perfectly fine. Right purview people have cut well what color either. I don't know they're all kinds of colors. I guess I the whole color of the rainbow. But Now, they're part of the DVD Q. Guess they are black lives matter is all about. Just that the Lgbtq eighty-two, two plus community. But we don't have to, you don't have to tear down whites in order to build up the other races. It doesn't have to be this way I don't know why. Why is this happening now while that's the mindset, the right we have to tear terraced out. It's the same with the United States of America tearing it down. To get us to the level of the rest of the world will that's that's that's not how it works. because. It shouldn't be. it is it is how it's working right now. That's what's happening. and we're going to be sorry once it's all done once the United States is torn down. Who's WHO's GonNa help place else there's no place else. There's no other beacon of freedom. Like the United States of America with its constitution with with its founding of freedom. Its founding by the way wasn't in Sixteen nineteen under slavery. Its founding was based on the Declaration of independence in the US. Constitution and that's why we have succeeded for two hundred, forty, six years. Instead now, we're trying to tear us down and get to the level of everybody else on the planet who didn't have the same freedom in the same ideas and the same offer people the same opportunity. So who's going to do that and And many of these places. By the way who were trying to tear the country down to reach where they're at. continue to want to come here. Yeah summaries of strange isn't it? It is straight it is such a bad place. What does everybody WANNA to come here? Still 'cause I could be wrong on this. Very possible that I could be wrong but. People are not, breaking down fences to get Managua Nicaragua. Are you sure by I? Don't know that's what I'm saying I'm not sure. Satellite imaging that we could check and see. If the borders. The Borders of Manala? Aena. Are really crowded with people trying to have. or one of the Google satellites has a we can drink it. Yeah. Our Right Also. All of this garbage is fortunately spilling into Texas as well. Carroll ISD in Southlake Texas. One of the wealthiest locales in the country. Their school board is voting on a cultural competence action plan would finally. Good finally what some call a culture of racism within Carroll ISD is a topic soon to be revisited. Up for a vote is at four hundred and twenty, five, thousand dollar budget item a cultural competence action plan over Gosh created in part by the district's diversity council. I didn't realize self like had a diversity council. That's great. I'm glad to hear it. I'm really am among several. Recomendations it calls for expanding use of an APP for reporting inappropriate acts like several social media posts that surfaced in recent years showing students blatantly using racial slurs. I'd have to see those two that was at a party that was it. Yeah. We're the actual race racial slurs out. They were racist slurs when they they were all rapping to some songs and stuff and they were used you kidding news now they're using the so they were singing a rap song though or rapping a so if I, if I remember the whole story yes that was that they were. So they were all singing quoting a rap song. Yes. That was horrific. We couldn't watch it and it was terrible. Okay I mean. It's a lot about awareness. I don't think a lot of people realize just how traumatizing a lot of these experiences can be and how at the same time it could be so common amongst almost all the students of color who go to the school. That's what one person way pushing for this agenda said. Okay. Are they saw this which of the three multi-million dollar campuses? Yeah. I just WANNA I just WANNA and at one of the multi-million dollar campuses, they're already building new buildings on it. Right now there's been under construction for a year and a half. I don't know which building they're using vote on this their football stadium eight bet either. About fifteen. is in the glow. Beautiful and it's it's not They're not altogether. You know how high schools usually have you had the school. That's impossible. Yes. Oh. We. Can't have that. Let's to spread out. It's too big campus. I mean there's like almost there's four kids go to Southlake Carroll. Yes. So they've got yeah Melissa. They have two huge school campuses those than the stadium gap is right yeah. They're also adding onto their their aquatic area or. Looming, area. Land. School is on Jalandhar Aquatic Building on all. That's talking about that they're building. BILBERRY alike at your high school. Jeffey. 'cause mine. was was less than adequate I will. I will say we'll say that we have a separate aquatic building. You didn't know we did. We did whenever it rained really hard. There was the whole out in the parking lot. that. Does almost deep. To to be knee level the NFL and aquatic separate aquatic area. And it was beautiful. It really was quite you've been there and I have one and it's beautiful. It's really nice to. Two stories. All Nice really nice real nice from the outside huge Olympic sized even be bigger than an Olympic size pool Beautiful Joy. Well, they shouldn't have all that probably that we're deciding. I. Hope So. deciding. I don't know what the Cultural Competence Action Plan. Entails. Well that's what I wonder. I'm wondering if they're going to knock down the new building built. Suffer through it without it. I'm not really sure I'm not really sure. But there's going to be an APP that they can all look added. They're going to solve the issues with with that at first and foremost which is our our demand number. One Carolina SD needs to declare that black lives matter. That's what they need to do first and foremost I open up the APP at better say that. It better. And publicly condemn events of police brutality because that's what school districts need to do and my right we would argue if they don't declare that then they don't really think that black lives black students lives matter. That's okay. So There you have it? Will have to get to this tomorrow because we're out of time now but. I just read an article. Have you read about the PAC twelve players demands? Yes we talked about that. Yesterday because they want. A split of the revenue they want to split in half and half they want the exorbitant salaries of coaches and administrators to be cut. And they want an end. To racial injustice in sports. And in society all done. So we'll tackle that tomorrow because I just found an article from the desert news in Salt Lake City. That the PAC, twelve demands are completely reasonable. Totally reason before what what? Injustice that's doable by the PAC twelve.

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2.14.19 We live in a subscription culture; Auto insurance shopping; Going to college is risky

Clark Howard Show

37:14 min | 1 year ago

2.14.19 We live in a subscription culture; Auto insurance shopping; Going to college is risky

"So glad to welcome you to the Clark Howard show where it's all about you. And that Walla yours you to learn ideas to me, so you can keep more of what you make coming up in just a few minutes you want to comparison shop for auto insurance. Good luck. It's today's Clark rage. And later talk about the actual value on average of the level of education. You have what does the level of education from high school through graduate degree? What is it do to your paycheck? I'm going to share some shocking comparisons for you. Some surprising numbers talk right now about. Something that his become the thing. And that is. Subscriptions for services and products rather than paying for them as he by them. It is a massive change in the economy. It is something that is a preferred method to do things for people that are in their twenties and thirties who are the key and foreigners today, and how society works and commerce works the levers of power. Or still heavily in the hands of older generations. But the power is migrating in the consumer sense to people that are younger and one of the key things. They want is not to own stuff. Now, we got an early look at this. At how net flicks destroyed the idea of owning video. I mean, it seems so long ago that people used to own movies. I mean, that's what people did they bought entire seasons of TV shows. That's I mean if somebody loved to show. Let's say the most one of the most popular things on net. Flicks is friends, and there are people who would go out, and they'd buy these cases that had entire seasons of friends or multiple seasons of friends may be able to pop in a DVD player. Now. Netflix paid you probably have heard this a couple of months ago, they paid a reported hundred million dollars to get the rights to continue to be able to show friends for one more year because parents for a lot of people. They're one of their motivators. To subscribe to net. Flicks is so they can watch friends episodes. Again, paying a monthly fee. The depending on barebones can be like eight bucks on up for net flicks. And it taught industry. That this is what so many people want now. And we are on the edge of an all out revolution in automotive market. Where people will. Subscribe to car services. Instead of own car early Sukur. As to how the ultimate economics of that will work out for you. It's gonna take a while to figure out the economic models. But the models have told you about I started telling you about about a year and a half ago with luxury brands that you pay a monthly fee, a big one, and then you can drive pretty much any vehicle within their fleet and change them out regularly. Now, that's not for everyday people. But being able to pay a monthly subscription inhabit include auto insurance and things like that. And you're free to ditch the subscription at any time. That is going to be a prominent way that people have transportation. And I'm somebody who likes to own things. Like, I have my own scooter like the lime or bird. Probably not the smartest thing to have my own probably makes more sense to pay a dollar ride and fifteen cents a minute, which is the common price point. But I like riding my own. I know how it performs and all that. And. There are so many things that. In my mind. It's like you own it. But one thing that's becoming clearer is not just because of the unaffordable of owning your own home. There are a lot of people who prefer the relative freedom of being a Renner. Instead of owning a property. You have to take care of. So this is a major transition in our economy as we transition and people try to figure out the right price points and all the rest. No that you as a consumer need to think through before you just click. Yes. It's so easy to sign up for every kind of subscription possible. Just think through is it something you really going to use and is the price really right for you and your budget. Stephen is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hi, stephen. Hey clark. How're you doing wonderful? Stephen, how can I be of service to you? Listen to you for quite a while. Now in never really thought about a retirement until what about a year ago when I took care vice on say everything's clear dad and have about aren't thirty thousand left on my mortgage. You're pretty young to have no debt at all the mortgage debt, and what's the value of the property right now Dali pretty high it's probably about two fifty five to sixty five. So you already in your early thirties. You have fifty percent equity in your home, and no other debts. Do Nodar dad all you are saying what happened Audra lean about trying to figure out. I try to pack my mortgage and paid off weekly or put away more for my four one K retirement plan and just try to save as much. Kanner pay my mortgage, you know, as I'm been doing it for us eight years where I just pay the, you know, the the normal minimum amount. So what is your mortgage interest rate, Stephen four point five four point five? So four point five puts you in a territory where the question would be can you out earn four point five over time in your in your four one K? And the odds are really good that you could earn more in the 4._0._1._K over time. Then what you're gonna pay on your mortgage at four and a half percent. So you've got a very favorable mortgage interest rate, and is a great feeling to be mortgage debt free. But if you with thirty years left till traditional retirement age for you socking as much money as you. Can in your 4._0._1._K is really a great choice. I got a question for you before you asked me your next question. Stephen does your employer offer you a choice between a traditional 4._0._1._K and a Roth 4._0._1._K or they only offer they do offer both Dale for both. And right now what I'm doing is doing lead a traditional and contributing about sixteen percent of it. Oh, man. I love you. You are incredible saver. So when at like, you to do is I'd like you to put a little more pinch on your wallet and stop doing the traditional in. Instead do the Roth. Okay, we're doing right now is with the traditionally they're matching seventy five percent for the first four percent. And then plenty five percent of the next four percent. So they match total eight percent. I wanted to know if I should just just go down to the minimum and just contribute a full maybe fully percent. And then just go with the box and contributed as I can't cause by June of next year. I'll be grossing almost seventy thousand dollars a year. So I'll be able to do about twenty percent total contribution. All right. So let's stop for a second. They will still do a match if you do the Roth four one K that doesn't change the match they do goes into the traditional side. But they'll still do that match for you that will not change anything about them matching. So it's really great for you to build up to piles of pre-tax pile and post tax pile of money because when you hit retirement having both piles is really Val. For money management later. Have you? If you do let's say even stay yard sixteen percent, which is outstanding that you're doing that. If you do the sixteen and you do it in the raw that means you do an after tax. So essentially, you will have raised your contribution effectively to the twenty percent you were thinking of doing at some future date anyway, but I would make that change. And I would do the raw 4._0._1._K and do that as a higher priority than paying down on the mortgage? If you're able to do sixteen percent though, and you realize you still have surplus money, and you want to exceleron paying on the mortgage go for it. I'm really impressed with you. You've set a financial plate for yourself. That is a great meal, and you're saving an enormous amount. You have minimal debt, and you have great freedom in front of you. Because of those choices you've made. Made. And I'm gonna mess up. Your name is a Rayan. No. It's Ryan Ryan. Oh, insistent misspell on the computer. I'm sorry. Right. Tell you. I'm looking at R Y N for your. No, no, no. It's Ryan how you doing Clark. How are you? I'm good good. It's pleasure to talk with you. I've been with you about fifteen years. So you're you're like my hero. Well, you were kind. Thank you. I got two quick easy questions for you. All right. The first question. So because I am Clark smart and kind of cheap. I need some new checks for my personal checking account and my credit union wants to charge me twenty one dollars for a hundred checks, and I very much like a co op owned by members twenty one bucks. I didn't think that was a good deal. So I know in the past you've talked about where to find checks, and if you could be so kind to let me know what you suggest that'd be great. Okay. So first thing Sunday newspapers, you still have a Sunday newspaper anywhere near you. I do right. So in the Sunday newspaper. They will have you'll see coupons for getting checks cheap first time. Okay. And we don't write enough checks anymore. C? You get let's say two hundred and fifty checks from one of those Sunday glossy coupons. It should last you many many years and okay checks. Now are so inexpensive ordering from one of those services. Probably somewhere in the range of maybe five bucks. Let sell. Wow. Okay. And also if you're a Sam's Club member or Costco, wholesale member. They also sell checks to members. And they're one hundred percent of the time they're cheaper than what you're gonna pay for checks ordering them. Win a credit can't believe credit unions charging that much, but a credit union or Bank is treating checks as a profit center selling you checks. They truly are. I thought that was a lot of money that is an insane amount of money. And okay. So it should be really easy for you. Find a dealer you a member of either the warehouse clubs. Oh for sure Cosco. Okay. So you can see at Costco's website what their cheapest checks are. And I think they're about half of what it is. And if you're a premium Costco, member you get an additional twenty or twenty five percent discount on check orders. I really appreciate that very much. My other question if you got time, I'll keep it quick. Okay. Do you have a book coming out and a book tour coming up anytime soon? No more books. Oh, Clark come on. Nope. No. I wrote ten I was fortunate to be on New York Times bestseller lists three times a number one once but the market is moved on. And that's why Clark dot com. We have new stuff every day. We now have to dozen writer. Irs on it because you want new content constantly. That's what the marketplace once. And that's taken the place of me having to go on six months book doors and never see my family, and they look at a picture of being that's how they remember. What I look like this episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. Hiring used to be hard multiple job sites. Stacks of resumes, confusing review process, but today, hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter dot com slash saving. Ziprecruiter, send your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't just stop there with their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite them to apply for your job as applications come in ZipRecruiter analyzes each one and spotlights the top candidates. So you never miss. Great match ZipRecruiter is so affective that eighty percent of employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate through the site within the first day and right now Clark Howard podcast listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address ZipRecruiter dot com slash saving. That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash S. A V, I N G ZipRecruiter dot com slash saving. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. You're not gonna believe this. A new report out that only one in four people who shop around for auto insurance. Like I recommend. You do have been successful buying new auto insurance online. The industry is intensely hostile to you shopping around except for the small number of insurers who specifically push you towards shopping around like gyco and. Progressive and it is a fear in the industry that people will become price oriented, and they're not gonna measure up most insurers. So I believe that the stubbornness and the fear of old line auto insurers being afraid is going to lead to a much better model for you buying insurance. And it's gonna be buying insurance on an app on your phone. And if the old line players don't wanna play new Windsor going to continue to emerge that are going to make it possible for you to buy insurance as you need it or by by the mile. I know this is weird. But the marketplace will much better be supported and pricing will be more obvious and more competitive when auto insurance alternately is sold by the mile, and we're not far from that point. And it will be a great day when it happens. This episode is by Comcast business. Every industry will see some form of digital transformation. When Comcast built the nation's largest gig speed network. Most businesses were fixated on megabits per second. Now with new needs to be met. Comcast business is moving beyond beyond. Connecting business to applications that help you create innovative new experiences beyond network complexity to the efficiency of zero touch one box world beyond the best products for your money to the best solutions for your business at an even greater value. The company that delivers unrelenting speed in more places is also the company making digital transformation possible for more businesses. Comcast business beyond fast. Take your business beyond at Comcast business dot com. It's my pleasure to have you with us here on the Clark Howard show where it's about your empowerment with knowledge. So you can save more and spend less and don't let anyone ever rip you off. You got a question for me and go to Clark dot com slash ask. And post to way, and we'd love to answer your questions. So. So there's a real movement today to try to discourage people from getting a college degree. It's more and more talk about how people get a college degree or having a hard time. Finding jobs that even need a college degree four, and it's a real backlash against the traditional four year college experience, and I wanna tell you there's more nuance to this than this react going on. I I wanna share with you. New data from the US census. And it shows that the earning power you have per year for everybody who has college degree high school degree, whatever this average. So don't compare yourself to this. This is showing the relative earnings of people based on education. So let's start with somebody who gets a advanced degree a master's or some other form of graduate degree. They average ninety five grand per year. According to the census, the average person with a college degree averages whisker under seventy thousand. The average person has some college which a lot of people go to college don't finish go for year or two maybe. And then they life happens, and they're not going to college anymore. Listen the difference. So the average person who's got the four year degree earns almost seventy the average person just has some college earns forty a massive credential gap. And it's in the life's not fair department is a lot of people who've had some college have learned really great stuff in their earning power should not be crushed that much. But that's what the marketplace says. How about if you have a high school diploma? Little more than thirty five thousand a year. So the big gap there's some gap between high school and some college. But the big gap is between some college and getting the degree. And that is a giant difference is another leap from the college degree to graduate school. But the biggest one by far is some college versus a college degree. So where's Elvis lead me to? Not everybody is college material. It's not your thing. It may not be of interest to you. But virtually everybody will benefit from getting a skill from getting a trade and. There are jobs that pay very well. Would you have that skill or trade? But there's a new factor is that really new, but it's one that people are not grabbing hold of. And that is historically in America different than a lot of people in western Europe. We have really had a fixation that you gain your education from your late teens to your mid twenties. And then you're done with education, but education today because of the changes in the workplace, the changes in jobs, education and training need to be looked at as a long-term lifelong pursuit and dropping out of college in particular. Should not be the terminus of it. If it means you didn't find it relevant. It didn't work for you. So go to trade school or apprentice programs aren't as big in this country. They are there places. But that's something. You can look at too. And money's not everything. I know a lot of people who are in middle age. Got a particular skill when they were young specifically because it paid well, but they're miserable. Do what you love. Do. What you love. It's what educators refer to is the intersection where you do what you love. But you also look for where what doing what you love can also generate a paycheck. Can do it a lot more than you realize? It's not as obvious as OEM starting to be an electrical engineer. I'm studying to be this that or the other. But there are many possibilities when you do pursue. What you love. Denise is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hi, denise. Hello. How are you, sir? I'm doing great. Thank you. How can I serve you? Well, you were just speaking acquire about the education. I spent fifteen years getting my education one class at a time while I home schooled my kids off and on. But our they do, oh, they're doing great, man. My youngest son is in in his last two years of high school now. Great. Okay. I I've got a little more to run with my youngest. He's a seventh grader. Oh, good luck to you. Yeah. So I I managed to graduate with my bachelors degree and then with my master's in class at a time and landed a good stable job with the air force. And as I started earning a living wage, I went to my local credit union. They have a basically a retirement finance counselor there. And I asked them for vice on how I should start preparing for retirement because I'm starting Soleil in the game. And I was a little disappointed because his advice was essentially just save as much as you can. That's all I can tell you. And I thought no there's got to be something more that I could do because I don't really have the time on my side to do the compounding interest. And so I have a real estate license on the side. Although I don't work in that field at all. I mostly got it because I'm really interested in. Real estate, and I've always had a kind of in the back of my mind. I'd like to invest at some point. But I was wondering if you had any advice for somebody starting leading to the game for those of us who are late bloomers? Well, let's talk this through. So are you a civilian employee of the air force or you contractor? I am a civilian employee of the for, sir. All right. Well, thank you so much for your service. And I wanna tell you that that makes you eligible for the T S P. Yes. And the TSP is the greatest retirement plan that we have as earthlings. It's fantastic. Oh, that's good to hear. And so you, you know, you can pursue this other interest in real estate. But the thing I want you to do is is. Start at with the amount you can feel you can afford in your budget in the TSP. But I want you to keep stepping up the amount you contribute because TSP has the lowest cost of any retirement plan any of us could possibly have. It's extremely well managed and because you're a civilian employee. You get a match, correct. Up to three percent. We get dollar for dollar. And then the next two percent is fifty cents on the dollar during five percent, which would pick up all the match money. That's not going to be enough for you. How much are you putting in at this point is a percent at this point? I'm doing five percent because I'm paying off all of my consumer debt. I figure I can't get a better return than not paying eighteen nineteen percent on credit cards. But I would like you to I'm going to ask you to do a stretch. Okay. Okay. I'd like you every six months to step up the amount you're contributing TSP one percent. Oh, sure. 'cause we don't notice it and little increments like that. And you can stay on your path to pay down on the credit card debt. Makes sense. In addition on the credit card debt, you said you're a credit union member. Yeah. Do they offer a balance transfer that will get you a lower interest rate on that debt? Actually, I already did that and I've almost paid off that credit card. Oh, great. Yeah. So I only have about three thousand dollars left. I started about forty two thousand good job. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Feels pretty good. I I sense. The shackles falling off now. Wonderful. So in that too. Yes. Pe- as soon as you finish paying off that debt step it up more than just a percent or two because what you need starting later. You do have to devote more of your paycheck to building money as a war chest for retirement than someone who started younger and keep on going till you get to the maximum eventually that you can contribute to the TSP cheer and go into the life cycle fund. That's appropriate. That one I actually already in that one. That's the right thing for you to do. So that's the most important thing. If in addition to that, if you have the energy and the time, and you wanna pursue doing real estate on the side, go for it. They weren't. I mean, it's different kinds of ways of creating more wealth overtime or more income in the current time with the TSP is where I want your efforts really concentrated, and congratulations to you for what you did raising all these kids homeschooling and getting all that education for yourself. You should be really proud of what you've done. Millard is with us on the car coward show. Hi millard. How are you? Hey Miller Clark. It's great to talk to your right to have you here. Millard? I understand your aggravated with how I praise credit unions. All the time is that accurate. Well, kind of I've heard you go on rants about the evil megabanks. No, no, giant monster. Megabanks? Exactly. I couldn't agree more. I'm proud to say that I'm with a small locally owned Bank with less than a dozen branches and very very happy. They've been great to me. But here in my community, which is a metropolitan area of nearly a million people. We're dominated by a mega credit union. And it's very very hard to get away from them, the smaller credit unions are farming off some of their services to the large credit union. So that we get caught in the same loop of no customer service that the big banks have been offering for years. You are you are bringing up a very valid point. Credit unions are going through kind of an awkward adolescence right now. And it's for a specific reason the credit union industry is having to pivot because people who are in their twenties and thirties only want to do banking on their smartphones and setting up really really sophisticated apps requires huge money and a lot of smaller. Credit unions don't have enough funds to super serve the people in their twenties and thirties who were never going to Bank. Like, maybe I did growing up. And so the credit unions are having to bulk up, and as they become larger or is they go into these cooperative efforts with other credit unions. They become more bureaucratic and not as personal as the experience. People have been used to. The problem that I had with the large credit union was that I left them because of problems servicing my mortgage, and I refinanced at a much better rate a couple of years ago to my local credit union only to find out that my local credit union was outsourcing all of the service for the mortgage loans to the mega credit union. So when you talk about a mega credit union. There's only one Jain normal credit union in the country. That's a nother Clark term and that is navy federal. But even navy federal is like one twenty fifth the size of one of the giant mega giant monster megabanks. So I support that you are leading your feet walk to where you were happy and where you're getting the best service. And that's a great decision on your part, and you know, credit unions the way, they're structured are going to be generally a better choice than a Bank. But credit unions are not a monolithic can be good ones. Bad ones in between. Just like there are with banks. This episode of the Clark Howard podcast is brought to you in partnership with health IQ an insurance agency dedicated to awarding the investments you make in your healthy lifestyle health IQ treats health, equity, like an asset class using science and health literacy data to save cli-. Up to thirty three percent. Have you run a marathon? Or do you cycle regularly? Do eat a healthy diet. See how much the investments you make in your health? Conserve your family by getting a quote at health. I q dot com slash save. That's health. I q dot com slash S. A V E Mike is with us on the Clark Howard show. And Mike I understand that. You are a proud member of team Clark in that you're going to protect your fellow listeners from some form of scam. Is that right? Yes, we have. We have got phone calls that our home, and I've got on my cell phone and everything else from these places wanting to fix your computer and. I mean, they they call eight thirty in the morning, and it's like, oh, we we weren't we wanna recur your computer. That's that. And and every time you call in in. I don't know what they wanna do my dad, and I just hang up on them or tell them, we don't have computer. But I got a phone call one time on my laptop. And this thing is just all those new out of the box, and it, and he said always said you put my first off to office on there. There's something wrong with the server and can cause within crash, and this that the other course, I want to charge money. No, it's much worse than them charging money. Let me tell you. Well, they what they want to charge affects us they a. It's like well there. Nothing wrong with it. If I any problems all apple. Yeah. It's just that you get some of these older people or starts they and they don't still fall for that. Steph. Oh, no, no, not just older people the has been on ocular, my well, so popular let me pretty different way. It's been very successful at stealing people's money. But even worse locking down their computers. And then you have to pay what's known as ransomware to get your own computer back working. Yeah. Well, that's what this one guy said on the internet. He said he said my computers now paperweight, you know, he said, it's just ridiculous. So let me say something about this just for your fellow listener what they do is. They actually convince you that they're gonna fix the computer. And they ask you for certain information that allows them to. Seize control of your computer remotely. And that's when they predicted the future because then they make your computer paperweight and put deadly viruses on it. Don't engage any of these people in conversation to just what you've been doing hang up the phone and avoid the crooks. This is the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today that Clark Howard show is produced by Kim droves. Joel LARs guard, Debra Reese and gem airs and remember twenty four hours a day where there to serve you at Clark dot com and Clark deals dot com.

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Hour 2: 2/18/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Hour 2: 2/18/19

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The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Pride passion and patterns re of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast, we are back the second hour of the program live with it would be anything. Glad you're here. Jones in Jay Bilas to to. Different being careful when I say here, very different basketball, commentators one the most brilliant in the game. And then Jay Bilas. Let's get to the calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Always great to have James in Harlan Kentucky on the phone. Hello, james. Welcome to our show. How are you doing today? We doing great. Thank you. That's good. Yeah. Just wanted. I got a question that I'm glad that Kentucky won the game Saturday, but they could cut the Kentucky. You don't need to be too high up right now because they they try back to Tennessee. And they could be possibility that they could be turned around the same thing to them. Yeah. Yeah. I think so listen. I mean JJ made a good point. I mean, all of these games are important because they affect the seating. But if Tennessee and Kentucky's for it, it's it's a wash and Tennessee right now. I mean, Tennessee still has to do with LSU. They still have a schedule that that is going to be important. But I don't think anything was decided the other night except Tennessee's winning streak was ended in the odds of Tennessee being number one the rest of the year are gone. Maybe that's good. Maybe the pressure is off you go from. Thank you do a whole lot better this year, but through determined to it everything. But like I said, you know, they they kebob me beat them into tournament. And also Kentucky Tennessee, kebab EMT. Listen, you're absolutely right about that. Good to have you on. Thank you. Let's go to Tennessee. Andy is up next. Hello, andy. Hey, can you want me to call? You back. I'm got fan. Got back to great glad to have you. I think that what goes bar and said that they just didn't play together. They played this individuals too much. That's a problem when your basketball team. Never thing. They'd been his to to slack on their bounds. There. Well, I mean, don't forget, Andy. And I know, you know, you're not I mean they were up against a really good team. That felt like it had something to prove at home. Try. I remember way back in repor coach that the few times at Kentucky lost game was to Tennessee was one one of the few teams. It would beat them now, especially how the conference well. When did you first are watching college basketball? Not nineteen forty six forty six somewhere along in their bid forty. Yeah. And coke. I want to Serbian school over UT and the forty nine okay after I got out of the service right only got to go one year. Down here. Clocked out because I've been out of school. So I'm three years out of high school and as too far behind. Well. Yeah, I mean, listen, you're you're in the service. He didn't have much sound worry about studies. We'll have I really enjoyed the game. Anyway. But I think the boys were just little bit all and I noticed see the season different teams have days in am. I think that's partly part of it. It's not a perfect science playing basketball or for that matter. During debates was they you know, they they were up and down. Yeah. I know, sir. I know that. Admiral air speed times there. He he didn't score and all of the games. Hardly. No because he had bad in that bad days in then the crowd up. There was terrifically really hard on that called him losing team. Well, hey, listen. That's not an easy place to win. Motiva- from a motivational standpoint losing to LSU, you just have to wonder what that did to Kentucky. I mean, it seems like they came out possessed. Yes. Especially we get a trace both pretty soon. So. I think we're going to win some more games. Oh, I too much data about that. Andy, no, concerns. It's only said were eighteenth. Well, I'm looking forward to watch football coming back in this next year, hoping we can improve. To on that. So let me sum be. You in school in the mid forties. So what was that seventy? The seniors Maxine would have been my senior year was as Johnny majors was a charity. Major. Johnny played Johnny played win. He played in the mid fifty nine hundred nineteen fifty three. I know. Well, yeah. Yeah. I think he I think he played fifty six he was from the Heisman and fifty six to Paul Horning. Yeah. Yeah. He was he played he played. He just little little Faradis earning sixty five pounds. Yeah. G wasn't very big to know coach majors when I was at Tennessee. He was the coach and what a character. Yeah. He was a character then too. You can imagine. Because we always called it lean seeing a wing they played back, then give them Kenmore ten extra yards. That's trainer semi bet that ten yards back to the to the tailback him. He had to run ten years to get to the Atlanta scrimmage didn't intend to get it. I I forgot we talked to you that you told me how old were you? Mattie, one ninety one. Yeah. Made me feel young. I'm a day older now or you're. Oh. You don't just like Mark them off like a kind of. Pineapple tree on a castaway island. Do you know one more day? No, I've got a beard hangs, Dan election close back in. See I thank September episode. I didn't wanna shave for a while and mixed thing. You know, I had a big long beard. How long is it? Now. It's about three inches from the Chen is. Three three. You're going to say it goes away ram. Melton around massad burns, you trim it or. One time and played Santa Claus with. Or did you? Sure. So are you going to shave it at any point? Or are you just going to let it grow like? I have to take hair clippers to it. I. Got one get tired everytime. I've just got a little bit too. Lazy to get to shave. Hey, eighty at ninety one year entitled to not shape for awhile. Well, I'm not dating anymore right now, you take it. So you're taking a breather from dating. Yeah. B's it from marrying into my lap put to integrate on an old. Thank I don't wanna put him more in. No, let me do did you date until recently. No, I didn't. I did started dating my wife and were married in nineteen seventy mean, I seventy nine years old when we made seventy nine she she she bad lace may they okay, I'm sorry. It'd be too early to start dating again I'll read anyway. I don't know what the what the statute of limitations is on that. But. This. Now, we're we're I asked you this the other day, but I forgot where Knoxville we're in Tennessee. Do you live? Elliot locks real I was born and raised right here in. Ma'am. You're knoxville. Okay. Spell in Clinton. It went is head his funeral on the way home. He picked up a girlfriend, and they went and got married. From the funeral. I know I've been out to Clinton before one of my college buddies live out there. That's a nice area. I worked at Oak Ridge for thirty three years outweigh. Oh, yeah. Sure. Fokkers pretty famous play. I'm also a cold cold. More patriot go, right, right? I understand Andy you keep calling us. We always enjoy talking to you. And and you'd be well, my friend. All right. Okay. How could he do we go from day? Thank you ninety one year old to a young, man. I'm an is up next. Thanks for taking my call. That was a great call from for Mandy their problem. I tell you what it ninety one. I think he started dating right now. Yeah. No. I I didn't want to interrupt. But you know, he's taken almost nine months off. I wouldn't let it get too much farther or those great call in and then forties. Did the basket have a hole in the bottom of it? Somebody three then. The ball back on the court. It was a peach basket, that's one. I was thinking, you know. In ninety one. I mean, we've got callers, you know, people having birthdays every day. Oh, yeah. And we got a seventy four year old. It hasn't dated in in seventy four years. No. I I think that's a fair statement. Yeah. And if angry just took break from dating, anyway, let's move on you know, reading, you know, the Twitter the Twitter, the Twitter, they're doing all the tweeden and stuff they raised a little Kaine last week, and I was reading some of them and one of them said that when Matt Jones comes on. He's always so biased. He you know, because I could tell by the way he was typing. This way turned say isn't ever call her and every tweet kind of icefall most of them are. Yeah. Most of them are imagine that you know this. I mean, I mean, I don't see a lot of tweets because people blocked me on Twitter, whatever. And then, you know, I've been blocked so it doesn't really matter. I mean, welcome to the club. That's what that's what the James gang said. Joe walsh. Welcome to the club. You know, Paul president horn chair. Oh, happy presidents day, by the way. Yeah. Do you have a favorite president? I don't know. You know what? I don't want to go against the grain. But I thought this was a better holiday when we were celebrating, Washington and Lincoln. Yeah. I did want to celebrate all forty five presidents. I don't give a rip about some of them. I I want to celebrate the father of our country and the man who saved the union. Yeah. Yeah. And you know. Millard Fillmore or Jane? Would that's like going through the bane while Jayme? And that's like going through the Tuscaloosa baseball team waiting for Jim come out on the court. And he didn't come out. I mean, you know, because he wasn't on thing. But anyway, but, but but let me ask you this politically about free now to piers. Yeah. He he's my favorite. He's good Mayan. He's good my in having to like Millard Fillmore. You know, if if that's your guy that she'll guy I mean, I I am currently working on a biography of Millard. I did he actually have bumper stickers for cars or whether just wagons. Remember what Millard did? All right. And that's so you go back in time like, you know, to about the fourth or fifth president did you put your bumper sticker the wagon or you jackasses ass, you, you know, the problem with Millard Fillmore. What's that? He was from upstate New York. Yeah. And you know, there's not really many Miller's in the classroom anymore. You know? So president orange hair said that Mexico was gonna pay for the wall, a Wienand, the United States Mexico. Well, I haven't I haven't seen the wall built here. Yeah. But who's going to be paying for this wall with I've decided to pay for it myself. You are. You must inherited something from Millard. Hi, Paulette breakneck. Thank you very much. As far as I'm concerned this Millard Fillmore day, we are going to take a break. More of your phone calls after this to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete Glades since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice play some nights, he even slept in his hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how DIKO proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. Pride passion, then patrons re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Our program. Glad you're here. And let's move right along and talk to Harry, how are you airy? Hey, Paul graphing on afternoon. Just a quick comment. Ball is any reason John is blam self today. Or is this going to be a new format? No. It's just a in the chaos of of the of the holiday a lot of people are off to. I got you call anyway, Friday, Paul TI. I didn't I didn't bring this up because I thought it would be unfair. I wanted to give Tennessee a chance to threw me wrong. But. They didn't. But now I'm going to bring up today poll and see what you think about it right before a call show Friday. I've learned that Tennessee had not played on a tone it after December nights who was in the top thirty in the country. And and and I didn't know, you know, whether or not that was going to have a big affect and I'm wondering now, you know, do you think that that that that saying something to us or do we have to wait a little bit longer? Listen, I I don't know. I think their their resume is questionable. But I still think they're a great basketball team. They just had I'm going to trust Jay Bilas. He was courtside. I wasn't. They had a bad night. It's what they do. Now that will define them. Not the one game against Kentucky. Right. I forty was very kind to to put Tennessee Kentucky despite the loss. But we'll see him. He sure knows a lot more than I do. But I was just curious as to whether you thought that that's agile was a little more meaningful. And and I thought it might be. But you you you answered that Paul and great show so full, and I'm gonna enjoy the rest of it today. Thank you very much, by the way, ceasefire you're throwing shade. At at at Tennessee. We looked at up ceasefires last game at kneeland stadium in twenty twenty fifteen sixteen twenty he he lost his last game, Tennessee at South Carolina. Of course, he didn't play them in in the seven in the fifteen twenty third in the fifteen season because he quit early on before the game. But his last game williams-brice, he lost Tennessee and overtime. Mark. And his last game in twenty th his last game at kneeland was played in front of ninety five thousand people and he lost that one too picked another team, but throw shade it just saying. Dennis is in Missouri. Hello dennis. Go right ahead. Hey, Paul oh. My way back onto Kentucky through promote cla Hoban. I'm going through Rallo. So Hello Milli. Oh wonder how? I I'll tell you. I thought the game was going to be a little bit closer Saturday night and Tennessee is not overrated, and I have to agree with John. They called him, Tennessee. And I've been down to Thompson bowling before Tennessee fans. I mean, it's a big rivalry. But I've always been treated with respect and everything down there during the game. And I think when Kentucky goes in two weeks, they're gonna have their hands full. Now. Hope it's a closer game. I hope Kentucky wins. But they don't you know, what sun will come up the next day. If it does, you know, and I just have one thing say, though, war, daddy, you know, he's for months. He's been saying that we all been crying and Kentucky, and and depressed, and I just want to say, I I hope he can find a good grief counselor. 'cause I know we store up today. Maybe they can also be a match Becker for him have a good day. All thank you very much. This Kentucky game has certainly sparked some attention to day. Shane is also calling about that in Kentucky. Hey, Paul Shane afternoon. Enjoy your show. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to say I'm a evolve fan for lot not live here in the bluegrass region. So I can't check all the time over the Tokyo Wildcats, but to me this year Tennessee's got a better team the Kentucky they they didn't show the other night. I haven't seen look that sloppy the entire season. But to me they're still there team this year on paper and just watching the game have Kentucky played a good game and hit more shots than I've seen them all year hit some lucky charts to me, but we didn't play good defense. And they just they just outcome for the, you know, I think that that coach Barnes if he'd a call maybe a timeout when it was like twelve to five and got the boys kind of settled into the team play, then might have been a different outcome. But if you just built up from there, but he's kinda hard to watch. I would agree with you on that. It was difficult to watch very much. Thank you very much for the call. Great to have you on. Let's go to Karl lot of Kentucky callers in Ashton Kentucky. Hello carl. Thank all how you doing. I just gone. I wanna talk about Kentucky basketball, the reason that. You know, it wouldn't have mattered who came in to rub on Saturday the ways I mean, they were fired that law for mill is she? It was done and over with before the game. They were they were just hired up. I mean, if you go back and watch the game. I mean, those, you know Williams coming into, you know, PJ Washington and everybody hitting them they they'd co down and hit the ground. You know? I mean, it was a physical ball game. And it was over before gain. You know, it was just a physical ballgame. And they just had the mindset that they were gonna win in, you know, Tennessee's great pain, you know. But you know, there's a Naven play when basketball, and you know, just kind of goes, but Kentucky was just real fired up for that game. Really great to have you on Daniel in Louisiana. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Daniel. I'm sorry. Yeah. This is Dell. Thank potato McCall. Thank you, Daryl. I'm sorry. Go right ahead. Yeah. I was on. I'll realize you cover and Kentucky a lot of people calling in about Kentucky and Tennessee, which is two great teams. I'll follow them watched as many games as possible the could this year. But I think a reason I called in hails alone. Is I think LSU's is primarily on the rated team. We've kind of find their radar and we're not getting any recognition which is fine with me. But I'm seventy nine I know basketball a little bit. I I had one time I had sixteen seized as village you games. And I you know, I don't have that. Now. I'm fortunate enough. I'm able to see most of them on TV. And but I think we. I think LSU needs a little more recognition. They advocators helium. They got we got a great coach. I mean, I really great coach. And we'll let me let me. I would agree. It just seems like LSU. But even with the win over Kentucky the only conversation last Wednesday morning was should they have won the game. Even Jay Bilas was with us earlier saying it was a bad call. But but I think Saturday now some of the luster has been taken off not a lot. But I think I think Tennessee coming into town next Saturday afternoon is a huge opportunity for LA shoot approve. I mean, you you beat Kentucky, and you beat Tennessee. And I think you're you're you're well on your way. So that that's going to be the game that I think helps to find LSU before the tournament. That's really the biggest game left. And you know, it's possible always you could sneak in with with a conference championship because they have the best road. And ultimately what they do in March is is going to be how we frame it. I mean, they were kind of late to the party a lot of people didn't think they had played a very good schedule. Then they go up to Rupp and win. And the next thing, you know, we're talking about Tennessee and Kentucky. Absolutely. I think he you ride on what you're saying. I if if you think about it, you know, we made one mistake I point guard made a pass it. He shouldn't. They could have good dribble. A ball out. They'd had a foul him. As only a few say that in Arkansas game that was at home, and we should have won that game beat. We'd be the men Walton rain up and Arkansas, and we definitely should have won that game. We could be setting on the feeder right now SAC. So I mean LSU I want you to if you have a chance so you get if you tape it or something and watch it later this watch I athletic LS. She is a they just have some ball as it can jump out of Jim. I mean a on believable. They got one kid six four, and he just he jumps way up pay the baskets too with your kids, and as Walter as Walter skid out think might be the best poem God, maybe in in the SEC, maybe in a nation. He's really really good. Really? Thank you. Well, listen, we appreciate call. We had coach wait on one. Was that Thursday night? Really great conversation with him. So we're all in on LSU basketball. We're up against a break here. More of your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five conversation about Alabama's new staff coming up later, it is president's day. And you've our callers you think would ever make a good president. No. He's too opinionated. We don't want a president who knows everything to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Pride packing, then patterns three of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Pudding next row. Welcome back to the program. Glad you are with us Daniel in Louisiana. Hello daniel. Thanks. Thank you. This is so cool. I'm just cutting Tom of basketball and everything and. You have to have a wonderful just being able to do what you do. You know, I appreciate you saying that. I mean, I try to think I try not to think about that very often. But. This program is a is kind of the glue. That keeps all of us together keeps keeps me sane, right? You know, so many times we don't appreciate what we got going. It's just repetitious spread s got to be wonderful. What you do? Well. Thank you very much for saying that I'm I will when I have when I wake up and go I can't can't believe after do this today. I'm going to think about this. Call. Will motivate me and get me going. Well, I know you you're probably self motivated. Well, but anyway, Matt Jones, I kinda have a real problem with site in that it would have bad Paul at Kentucky. Yeah. There's a ball had to be inside of a cylinder or can it just be off the rim. I thought it had to be inside. But you know, I've I've talked to people that claim that whether that was a bad call or not it's debatable that there were two previous non calls that should have been called against Kentucky. Well, that's home court advantage. I get in the same in the same sequence. But you know, what Daniel talking about a call in a basketball game. A week later is a waste of time. Now football you you can call can change your entire season a call in February is not going to change your season. Now, if it's the final game, or if it costs you getting to the next round in the NC double A, then it's a big deal. That was not a big deal. Right. You know, I don't think it is just you know, in credit for case on what is actually go to. Yeah. Well, it's very interpretive. Right. Right. And it's not reviewable so anything that's not reviewable becomes a disaster. I guess so. But I I will tell you this and I'm not I'm not a rules official. But if you went back in head a review, I think Kentucky would have been called for goaltending before LSU would have been called game over. Wow. Okay. Okay. Well, I said it's you know, you you win some you lose some get rained out. So you just gotta go with you are so correct. Daniel. Thank you very much appreciates converts. Great to have you on. Tim is in Austin, Texas. Hello, tim. Jimmy there. Yeah. I hear the race. Thanks for thanks for taking my call. I've been a sports fan for seventy five years, and I moved here Austin. And you know, they really don't like the SCC here in Austin and the newspaper here real rarely ever cares. So I'm really. Happy to tune into your show, so often on news about this. He see since I am a SEC plan of seventy five years a Florida fan too, by the way, and I did want to comment you mentioned about Steve Spurrier, remember the famous Peyton Manning never beats per. Yeah. I do remember that. And also does taking the two were talking about the final one that caused Florida the championship had the worst call of of football game I've ever witness now. I can't I don't remember. Well, yeah, it was right near the end of the game. They called the Florida guy. Who was definitely filed the game here in two thousand and one right? Yeah. And actually they win. And you know, it's like every. Time. There's a the protest something they never change anything. Well, Tennessee went on to become the national championship. And therefore, it was okay that they didn't for for the game or do whatever they supposed to, you know, but they did finally chess as the official for not making the call, right? And he was banned from ever officiating in the state of Florida or Florida game. If few you probably don't remember that. But I do. I do not really how I have good friends at Tennessee in followed their football. Just almost. Well, as I did Florida's thanks again for taking my call. And I really appreciate your. It's not Tim. It's ten. Okay. Glider from it. We'll we'll go through that December two thousand and one Tennessee Florida game as soon as we come back. Kyle is in Kentucky, and you are next up. Hey, kyle. Hey, what's going on? We are doing what? Well, thank you very much. Yeah. I just can't about that big game in the bluegrass Saturday between the Tennessee and Kentucky. Of course. I'm huge. Big blue Kentucky, all the way and Tennessee's or real good team this year. I mean, there's number one four reason, but they just ran into a buzzsaw Saturday at Rupp. I mean contest he just dominated physicality, you know, offense this making shots that always have. They just own the boards on offense offensive boards in defense boards. I mean, they just offered the lineup. They just they just ruled the day in that game. And Tennessee can't they didn't really have an answer for, you know, come out the second half. So whether they're gonna make the run and Kentucky was the team that might run. What was eighteen run to start the second half? My goodness. That was amazing. On me. And I I got a lot of the first two three minutes of a half are the most important. Well, there you go. Yeah. I mean, I got a lot of can't see friends up here that you know, that hard orange. I it makes you wonder what happened at halftime in Tennessee locker room. Yeah. You think you think he's probably ripped them and stuff. But whatever he says short it and work. So I'm hoping when we go down the Knoxville that I know I will be the same same topic game. I said it'll be close. They'll be ready. Their fans would be ready. But whatever he said half time. This this go around hope he says the halftime down there, and we had the same outcome. I mean, you know, I got quite a few fans here here in big blue country. I mean lease it Payton Yemi Trent. But one the big on just one Tennessee volunteers on Rodney would play them. No, I've never heard more Tennessee fans in Kentucky in my life. Somebody needs to educate me on how that happened. We are up against the break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight hundred number of guests as well as we continue to honor president's day. You're welcome to tell us your favorite president as long as he's at Millersville to and listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Pride packing, then patron three of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Glad you better. Let's continue more here at eight five five four two seven two eight five. It's been a busy show in Charlie is up next in Alabama. Hello, charlie. How you doing man we are doing? Well. Thank you very much. Hey, listen. I I don't want to sound like I'm not a big fan because I am. But I'm it's come of every list for non of living standards to the way. And I just cannot understand how come out blaze of glory the first part of the season. And now they have like the football team just kind of like fizzled out. Well, your pets away my mind, you know, Charlie was with wildly and some others. So I'm not making excuses. Bruce paroles here about a week and a half ago. And he said that was an issue, but they don't seem to be playing at the same level know, they got to win the other night. But they're they're up against the wall right now in terms of getting back to the tournament and that they don't make the tournament. It would be considered a colossal disappointment. Well, here getting live I live in a realistic board and other tenets immoral that they they make determine, hey, I'm all gung ho, but I don't expect him to now know and a lot. Trouble right now. Alabama is another one. Hey, thank you. Charlie. Great to have you here. Let's move along. And talk to Tony in Kentucky. Hello, tony. Go right ahead. Well, Hello, Paul the first time caller. Thank you very much. And I just want to say that you're gentlemen, a scholar in this. And I've tried to reach you or your show several times and very very busy and hard to reach. But I see why the word fine in your last name to be Paul fine, gentlemen. Thank you very much. We'll find find his mean good in German, which is suggestion name. I have more of a comment, by the way, the only word, I know in German, but that's. I understand and I have more of a comment than any. I'm sorry. Other than logger. Got to very much on that. I have more of a comment than any questions because it's about the great state of Tennessee. I followed Kentucky football for decades and can and their basketball, of course, follow sports in general. But I'm the coach of the wheelchair basketball team, the Louisville junior Mustang. We really yes, sir. Yes, sir. And we travel and we traveled to Murphy's borough to play at the middle state Tennessee auditorium rec center, and we played teams this past weekend Saturday and Sunday there's far away. San Antonio, Texas, Nebraska. They had a second or third ranked in the nation wheelchair basketball team, and we played teams from Charlotte. But so I just wanted to comment love sports and love the commodity, and we have gone through Tennessee. And where we stay. I I'll tell you why the the folks out of out of Tennessee. Salt of the earth. I just wanna comment. That's a great state great great down to earth people. And just very proud of who we leave when we travel I'm interested. How how did you have you done this long? Tony how did you get involved? Well, my wife, and I we adopted our little our son eleven years eleven years ago out of the hospital in Louisville, and he has spina bifida. So long story short several several elections in and did not know if he would leave the hospital years ago, he has a birthday coming up in March. But a lot of afflictions and Levin half years later. He's now on the basketball team. He's with the Special Olympics here in Spencer county Kentucky and swim team plays special needs baseball. He was a voice scouts. So long story short. I've been doing it about six years. It's all momentary work. So I've seen these kids from five and six years old were they could not dribble. They were afraid of the basketball. And we are the juniors that are aged between say nine years old, and they tap out at thirteen to go to the varsity and then onto the men's national team or something of that nature, depending if they stay with basketball, but I've been doing it about six years fall to answer your question that is really amazing will Tony that. That's a that's marvelous story. And and I'm sure it must be unbelievably rewarding to to do what you're doing. I'll I'll tell you. Why it's a it's a game changer. You know, we hit the lottery when we were able to adopt. This little boy Levin half years ago. It's a definite game changer. We we feel that it's it's it's better than hitting any lottery. I it just it just I don't know. It just absolutely makes you really appreciate. Everything and just to see these kids some have afflictions with no lakes. No, physical deformities. And and you know, just to see them put it out there, and they are and they're in all their parents, those folks that are, you know, have the opportunity to raise kids with special needs. It's just a feel good. We just look forward to it. So everything else is gravy as I say, Paul when it comes to a lot of this sports. And like I said, I I didn't get to watch much of the Kentucky Tennessee game because we were playing up to latter part of Saturday night there Murphy's borough which caught the tail end of it. But it's it's just like I said I wanted to comment all the great people of Tennessee, a Kentucky fan love sports in general. And as it would just tell you how that that works fall into keep it again, I'm sorry to be long winded. But the team. Out of Nebraska was second or third in the nation, and they played we we played to the finals ourselves. We want our three games on Saturday. And this is from us. We're like the bad news bears. Turn tony. I had to jump in. 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Winston Churchill: The Great Escape Part 5 | Chaos & Carnage

"Greetings. All this episode of giants. Have history is brought to you by another history podcast called unknown history. Now unknown history is currently in its third season and this season, they're exploring a monumental day in American military history and a major turning point in World War Two and that event is d day June sixth nineteen forty four and that seventy five years ago this year, and again, the outcome of this collision would largely set the stage for the conclusion of World War Two. But the unique thing about unknown histories exploration of this event is that they're looking at it from a variety of different angles. So for example, you'll hear a story of survival from conscripted teenage soldier and also a French resistance fighter. And then you'll step back from the front lines and here couple other additional stories one of which is from the wife of German commander. So very unique. So search for unknown history wherever you get your podcasts and give it a listen. And then once again thank. To all of you who are supporting giants of history via patron, it's you that's making the show possible at I greatly. Appreciate all of your ongoing support. It was a scene that Churchill would never forget even years later as he related the story over and over again the trauma of it was extremely evident. You don't forget something that grizzly and that gruesome. The armored train that he was on at that moment was pulling away trying to escape the blaze of board bullets and shellfire. There were so many men stuffed into the train car already that all the rest had to find a spot on the outside of the train car holding onto whatever they could. So that didn't fall off all shouting and screaming as the train struggled to get away from the bore soldiers and their relentless assault. Now Churchill was one of these men, and he was just twenty four years old at this time. And suddenly as he was holding onto the engine car traveled back south toward fair station. Bore shells were heard being fired and were then incoming one of these shells, hit the engines Footplate, an explosion, followed and a cloud of black smoke filled. The air the second shell hit a storage tank on the engine another explosion and more smoke. But the third show the third shell hit one of the British soldiers that was next to Churchill right in the arm and Churchill's is took in every inch of the hor- Churchill described his traumatic event in graphic detail. Quote, the whole arm was smashed to a horrid pulp bones muscle blood and uniform all mixed together at the bottom hung, the hand unhurt, but swelled instantly to three times its ordinary size. And. And unfortunately, there were scenes like this one all over that armored train and in the surrounding Velde on that November day in eighteen ninety nine and Winston Churchill was there for at all. When we left off last episode Winston Churchill was traveling on an armored train in Natale, South Africa. And he was participating in a reconnaissance mission where the British were trying to gather Intel on the bore armies plans for their attack on escort the small town where British forces were concentrated at this time. During that recon mission. However Churchill saw in the distance about one hundred four soldiers heading in the opposite direction of the train, and he and the commanding officer of the recon mission Aylmer how Dane wondered openly what these bore soldiers were up to what they would soon. Find out is that the boar soldiers. They saw in the distance were heading back toward a hill that churches train had recently passed over. And the reason the boars were traveling back toward this hill was that they could sabotage the train tracks and said he trapped four armored train on its trip back toward escort later in the day. The bore plan was to spread large rocks all over the tracks at the bottom of the steep hill. And right at the point where the tracks mayday severe turn. And this would cause the train to jump the tracks on its way down the hill. And then violently crash allowing the boars to then attack the armored train and all the soldiers and civilians on board without mercy. And while Churchill and how Dane noon attack might becoming as they traveled back from their recon mission toward us court on that day, again, November fifteenth eighteen ninety nine they didn't know exactly what form that attack might take. But as their train reached the top of that same steep hill. The Boers had set the trap at the bottom of Churchill himself. Got a firsthand look at what was about to happen. The trap was set. And as we said the train was speeding right for it. But just to rewind the story about five minutes to right before the train began to descend the hill as we said last episode, how Dane ordered the train to stop at the very top of this hill as he wanted to use the height of the hill as a lookout point to see if you could identify where the boars were at this time remembering again that he'd seen them on the ridge in the distance on their way out. And he wondered, of course, what they might be planning. How was trying to see where the attack might be taking shape not knowing that at that very moment. The train was right in the middle of the attack spot itself. But of course, not knowing this. How asked Churchill to jump out of the train at the top of the hill and survey the landscape with a pair of Benach yars. And of course, never want to shy away from the action Churchill immediately grabbed the binoculars hopped out of the train, and he ran up the hill a little further to good lookout point. But after only. A minute or two how Dane whistled him back. And it was just as Churchill was dropping back into the train car returning from serving the landscape that the first shell of a cannon was heard being fired. And as it turns out, the shell just miss Churchill as he landed back in the car the shelf flew over his head and it exploded just beyond the train itself. The shell was from a cannon nicknamed a pom pom due to the sound that it made when it was fired and the sound is often described as a coughing kind of sound, and according to author Candace Miller the pom-pom was a weapon of choice for the bore army. Now, the Boers found this canon perfect for their utility because it was mobile it was easy to maneuver and it could cause plenty of damage relatively quickly. However in contrast, the British had shooed, the pom-pom as somewhat useless. But this war would change their mind on the effective. Of the pom-pom after they saw how the boars used it. They would soon ordering large number of these canons for themselves at a later stage in the war. But as Millard captures it here, quote at this moment. However, they had none and Botha had to pointing directly at the armored train and quote. And of course, Botha here is Louis Botha, the fearless bore general that we discussed last episode. Now note before we move forward, and I rarely have to do this because I do my due diligence when it comes to name pronunciations. But last episode I was pronouncing the name Louis Bota because all the videos that I watched all the documentaries that I researched most of them pronounced his name as Louis Bota. So that's what I went with last episode, but over this past weekend, I was actually having lunch with an old friend whose wife is from South Africa at her father was there too. And they actually are from Durban, which is in Natale. So I started to ask all these questions about the boar war and bouncing names often because I wanted to make sure that I had these pronunciations, correct? And what I said Louis Bota, my friend's father in law said no it's Louis Botha had asked him if he was sure and he insisted he was one hundred percent Scher as he had to learn all of the stuff when he was a kid in the schools of Durban. And in South Africa the same way that we learn about George Washington Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson. So if my friends father-in-law who is from Natale knows about Ladysmith knows about escort new a ton about the boar war and Winston Churchill at this time. And if he said, it's Louis Botha then moving forward, I'm gonna pronounce his name Louis Botha. So again, a rare correction as I do my due diligence, but I wanted to put that out there. So everybody knew. But moving forward. For the bore plan to work and to get the train to jump the tracks. At the bottom of the hill. The train would have to be traveling pretty damn fast down that hill and the Boers plan again to ensure the train picked up enough speed to jump the tracks was to trick the British into thinking that the attack was mainly coming at the top of the hill, thus encouraging how deign to send the order to the driver of the train full speed ahead. And that's all that. I cannon shot. They heard the one that Mr. chills had by a few inches. That's all that shot was meant to do get how deign to order the train to speed up and get out of there. How Dane later wrote of this exact moment in his autobiography a soldier saga that he quote felt elated as the pace grew faster and faster, and quote, and you can see he thought that he was doing a good thing. Getting everyone out of there as quickly as possible. How wrong he ended up being that first shot was just the beginning as the train started to descend the hill and Churchill and how Danes car finally came over the crest reminding you hear that Churchill and how Dane we're now in the last car of the train the caboose if you will the full reality of what was about to happen hit them, but Churchill had the better view as he was standing on a box in the back of the train with his head above the sidewall, and he could see everything and what he saw no doubt sent shivers through his entire body. All around the top of the hill stood Boer soldiers guns in hand. And what was more? They also had their field guns pointed right at the train itself. As soon as he saw this Churchill jumped off the box that he was standing on and duct. And that is when all hell broke loose. The typically quiet Velde, which had just moments before held only. The sounds of the armored train slowly climbing up the tracks of the hill. Now erupted in utter chaos. The Boers cannons fired shell after shell and countless bore soldiers. Just let their guns rip all aiming in unison at each car of the armored train, perhaps the scene can best be described as instant insanity. The sounds of bullets being fired and shells exploding. And then smoke everywhere as a result of these explosions. It's just sheer madness one of the most memorable sounds were the hundreds if not thousands of bullets hitting the metal plates of the armored train all the British soldiers on board. Could here was the thing. Thinking thing. Of bullets just ripping up the sides of the train cars and all the while as the train was being bombarded with gunfire and cannon fire, it traveled, faster and faster down the hill until it reached the bottom. And that's when the chaos turned to carnage. The impact was so sudden, and so intense that most don't remember what happened. They remember. The ferocious noise that accompanied the impact being thrown to the ground almost instantaneously, and that's a nurse and all it's glory. And then coming to with the bore onslaught still upon them with the sounds of screaming and crying all around. Now Churchill although shake and quite a bit was unhurt in the crash, and what's the shock? We're off the adrenaline kicked in and he jumped to his feet he peeked over the side of the train car to see what had happened. But the vantage point wasn't good. So he climbed up and over the wall of the train car, and he jumped out now, this was crazy, obviously. But he needed to survey the damage to understand what kind of chance they still had of surviving the attack at perhaps even fighting back. So Joel started to run alongside the train toward the engine which was a few cars up. If you remember using the cars themselves as cover from the bullets that were raining down upon the train at that exact moment, and as he made his way toward the front of the train. He got to see exactly what the result of the boar trap was. And it was carnage has said. Millard puts it in her book, quote, the first thing that Churchill saw was that the train had not just been hit. It was in pieces. Both plan had worked even better than he had hoped. The moment. The first car struck the rocks. It had been catapulted into the air flipping completely over and landing at the bottom of the hill killing or horribly wounding the players who had been riding. It Millard goes on the armored car behind it had slid another twenty yards down the tracks before crashing onto its side and launching dozens of men onto the ground where they lay some wounded some dead all caught in the shower of bore bullets the third car, which was just in the front of the engine somehow remained upright, but it's front. Half had twisted off the rails leaving the other half on the tracks blocking the rest of the train and quote. And when I read this. I pictured the train cars just flipping and rolling down the hill with men limp as rag dolls just flying in all directions as the cars rolled on until they finally came to a stop. But returning to that third cars position real quick as this is key as we said the first car flew off the tracks and the second car had fallen off the tracks as well. But the third car was only half off the tracks with the backside of the car still covering part of the tracks themselves this meant that the engine of the train which again was in the middle of all the train cars was blocked as Millard said and could not get by and escape the continuing onslaught of the Boer soldiers it was stuck there with nothing to do. But take the bullets and the beating so Churchill after surveying the damage and seeing that the engine was blocked from moving forward any further. He tried to put a plan together. Now, the main objective at this point was to find a way to help all the British soldiers and civilians that were still alive somehow escape from the bore attack. Before everyone was dead. So Churchill began running back and forth between the damage train cars which had fallen off the track. And all the cars that were still on the tracks. Trying to see what could be done the only way to get out of the situation was to get the remaining cars of the armored train with the engine now in the lead moving forward again. But just as he was putting this altogether. The driver of the train the only man who to operate the train it self. He jumped from the engine car and started running away trying to escape from the gunfire. Now Churchill saw this, and he grabbed the man now the driver's face was covered in blood from a huge gash in his head that he had gotten when a piece of shrapnel hit him after one of the shells exploded near him and the man tried to get away from Churchill and to try and keep running away. But Churchill looking the man dead in the is somehow. Churchill connected with the man, even amongst all that chaos telling the man that it was his duty to get back in that train and help get that train moving again Churchill even told the man that this was that rare opportunity every man hopes for to prove himself at Bahia roic against all odds, and somehow appealing to those emotions inside the man it worked Churchill later wrote that after that the man climbed back into the engine car, and quote obeyed every order, which I gave him and quote, and it wasn't just a driver of the train that encouraged. It was pretty much everyone who is still alive at this point Churchill knew that the only thing that they could do here was to clear that third car off the tracks. So the engine could get by and escape from the boars bullets and with that singular purpose in mind Churchill poll. All together all the men that he could find and directed them all toward this car. Again, the one that was half on the tracks half-off blocking the engine for moving forward. And remember this is all happening at the same time. The bore army is just blasting this train and all the men that they could see it didn't matter if they were alive or dead. The boars were just pummeling these men Millard rights of this moment quote for the next hour. So as he ran the length of the train trying to help free it or stood in the open instructing the terrified driver Churchill was constantly in the line of fire. Miller goes on the work of clearing. The line was one of the most difficult, and to churches mind, one of the most thrilling moments of his young life, and he rose to the challenge as though he had been waiting for just such a disaster, which in many ways he had and quote. And one more quote from Millard here as she does such an incredible job in her research into this event and her book is extremely detailed about all that took place. She writes, quote, surrounded by screaming shells and deafening explosions dead and dismembered men desperation, and almost certain failure Churchill is flashing cheeks flushed began shouting orders and quote. And finally with the strength of all the men pulling and the engine which had been engaged at this point as well to help push the car that was blocking the tracks was cleared away just enough. So that the engine could begin to pass. But when the engine finally started to move forward again, it got stuck one more time by the middle part of the engine car, which was just a few inches wider than the rest Churchill wrote again of this moment when the engine got stuck for the second time, quote, only four inches of twisted. Iron work to make the difference between danger captivity and shame on the one hand and safety freedom and triumph on the other end quote. Now while Churchill and a group of soldiers tried for a second time to free the engine car. How Dane and another group of men started to move all the wounded men to the engine car as the engine car had been uncoupled from all the cars behind it during their effort to push the car that blocked the tracks of the way. So basically, picturing this in your mind, it is at this point. Just the engine car by itself that is in play the cars in front were off the tracks and two cars behind it had been detached all the British soldiers and civilians that were alive, and how many it's tough to say exactly, but all of them at this point were converging on the engine car as there were no other options left for their escape. How Dane would later say that soon enough every inch of the engine car both inside and outside was packed and or covered with men. There were even wounded men laid over the outside parts of the engine car. They just put people wherever they could Millard writes again here capturing the perfectly, quote, the machine soon looked as though it had been quilted in khaki with wounded soldiers shoved stuffed and draped into and over every available space and quote. And then suddenly a bore shell hit the engine box directly causing an explosion at this. The driver of the train. He finally lost it, and he opened up the steam on the train to its full capacity. Kind of like when you suddenly stop on the gas pedal of a car. Churchill wrote of this moment, quote, there was a grinding crash. The engine staggered checked Schorr forward again until would they clanging tearing sound it broke past the point of interception and nothing but smooth line lay between us and home and quote. All the men that were still trying to free the train jumped on board and the train started to move, but the bullets and the shells kept coming, and it was at this moment that the event we described in the intro story of this episode took place when Churchill saw one of his fellow soldiers arms get blown to bits. But one other thing happened as the train was pulling away. How Dane again the commanding officer of the reconnaissance mission. He was standing on the very last step of the engine in the back of the train holding onto a railing that was near the floor. And as we said, the train was packed with men everywhere you looked there was someone squeezed in. And so how Dane was barely on the train as it was. But at one point as the train was pulling away one of the other men accidentally stepped on how Danes hand at which point. Of course, he instinctively pulled his hand away. Is quickly as he could. But that move cost him his hold on the railing at he fell off the back of the train. Now, we stood up as quickly as he could. But by that point, the train was already too far away from him primped to try and catch it all he could do was watch the train get smaller and smaller as it pulled away. And when realized what was about to then be his fate that have captured by the boars most likely given his rank he wrote later, quote, I prayed fervently that one of the bullets would come my way and put an end to the business and quote. But even though the train was pulling away from the boars they continued to concentrate their firepower on the engine, and they continued to hit their target as men who were on the train whether standing or lying down the kept getting shot and falling off the engine one by one as they took fire Churchill himself said of his fellow soldiers, quote, several screamed this is very rare in war and cried for help and quote. But then suddenly something took place that most British soldiers would have considered even worse than dying on the battlefield. Someone took out a white handkerchief. And they started waving it in the air for all the boars, see. Whether the rest of the men wanted to or not it did not matter. One man was all took the British had surrendered. The boars gunfire immediately ceased and Churchill was furious surrendering was not something that British soldiers did. And apparently there had already been a tremendous amount of surrendering done in this war by the British to the boars. But even though the boars stopped firing at the train, the bore soldiers continued to ride on their horses after the train as it's momentum died down just as it reached fair station, but Churchill himself he did not lay down and abide by the surrender. As was custom. He instead jumped off the train, and he started running away from the Boer soldiers making plans to return to the scene of the train wreck. Try and find how Dane and also try and find any of the other men who might have survived the trains grizzly escape the bore soldiers shot at Churchill relentlessly as he ran away. And of course, all the bullets missed him. But some not by very much. And he said that when he turned around he could see the soldiers chasing him, and they almost look like shadows from that distance. But you'll kept running and he soon turned and ran up a hill to try and get away. But the Boers kept shooting at him and dirt was jumping all around him as the bullets got closer and closer at it said that one bullet finally nipped Churchill in the hand he tried to hide in the nooks and crannies of the landscape, but it was no use just like the scene in a movie Churchill just stopped and appeared out from his hiding spot. And he watched as the shadowy bore figure, and there was only one by this time he watched as the man wrote up close to where he was and then got closer and closer for Churchill's part. He admitted later that quote with a rifle I could have killed him easily. I knew nothing of white flags and the bullets. Had made me savage end quote. The only problem now was Churchill reached for his gun in this moment. He came up empty the gun that he had stuck in his belt earlier that morning while he was in his tent was now nowhere to be found. Churchill was unarmed and facing down an extremely dangerous bore foe. And letting author Candace Miller take it from here as she grabbed this whole seem perfectly. She writes, quote Churchill knew that he had run out of options. He could be killed or be captured death stood before me. He wrote grim sullen death without his light-hearted companion chance than Millard continues, quote, the thought of surrender sickened him. But in this moment of fury frustration and despair the words of Napoleon whom he had long studied and admired came to him quote. When one is alone and unarmed, a surrender maybe pardoned and quote. Millard closes the scene by stating quote standing before the man who is now his captor Churchill raised his hands in the air and quote. Winston Churchill just fifteen days shy of his twenty fifth birthday was now a bore prisoner of war. What would happen to him next was anyone's guess, but it's safe to say that as soon as his hands went up on that rainy day as soon as his surrender was made official a new thought entered his mind, and that thought was escape.

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Ep 48 | What Would Aliens Say About Donald Trump?

The Chad Prather Show

58:57 min | 1 year ago

Ep 48 | What Would Aliens Say About Donald Trump?

"My goodness goodness. It's another episode of the Chad this show. We're hanging out here in studio. Twenty two silent. Herbert looking over my shoulder there. He is the deer the deer that has nothing to say. But when day day he is going to speak have very special guest in house today. Mr. Andrew heat and the host of blaze TV's something's off Hello, injure Heaton. It's. I'm glad to be here. I know we got to be like in your garage. Fireman. This is laid back the aura of Stevie Ray Vaughan's resonates in the room because apparently he recorded here in no one can tell me, otherwise, I don't care if it's true or not. But I will tell you who legendary has graced us with his presence. And that is party fell. Steve sitting there in the peanut galley gallery sitting over there. My lovely wife. Jade hot news Natalie is sitting right over there with their feet exposed. And that's disgusting. Hates that. I know and showing ankle at everything Mary, you're so non-purified Hannibal. You really are. I now need you. Get more Elizabeth une. I do have. That's my one tattoo, and of course, puppet master Markus sitting over there in the chair in once again, we're missing candidacy the Queen of the of Europeans. It is good to have you over my friend. I like I'm just gonna go ahead and say, you're my favorite person on the entire network. You are. Wow. I know you sit bridge a resonant leftist progressive definitely everyone resident progressive I have never come to that conclusion. I've never I like it because you're a free thinker. Thanks. I don't feel fit in one of those boxes. Very well. It gets me in trouble casually. What is it that you call it the orphanage the political orphanage yet because that's kind of my my main thing is the last few years. I I started out working for congress. I did work for Democrats when I was in congress for blue dogs for the conservative Democrats when they were still around, and then I got into libertarianism, and I wound up working as writer and FOX business for awhile. And then I worked for reason. And and now I still like, I'm I am very skeptical of regulation and government, and that kind of thing, but the the main thing that just your Tate's me today is this like super red team versus blue team thinking. Yeah. And you know, there's there's a good team and everybody on the team is evil and trying to everything down lane. I I've been to some fun cocktail parties. Democrats. I've been some good barbecues Republicans. There's a lot of good people all over the board. And so that's that's what I start doing that in a lot of the people like zero on the other team. Right. And I guess I I guess I'm the other team. Then whatever that is the problem that I have is every. Wants to label everybody, and that's the thing if you can label somebody that you can put them in a box put the box on a shelf, and you don't have to deal with them. Because now Andrew heathens name comes up and says, yeah, but he's a an defined by the label. I don't like that. The other thing is everybody has anybody in America has their own interpretation and their own version of patriotism, you cut them. They bleed their type of red white and blue sometimes it's a little bit lighter blue, maybe it's a little more purple, but whatever they have their own sometimes it's rainbow colors, but the people blade bleed their own version in and that's the thing. I love literally everybody until I don't love them because of the same. I feel like if I don't like you. I'm basically a labrador retriever and cowboy boots. So I if I don't like you something either I will point it out. I don't like it. But it's really nothing to do with you. It's I didn't eat lunch today or alternately like you must have done some because I like most people too. I'm in that kind of will Rogers mold as well. Exactly. And so I mean, let's look at let's just take a macro view of my life. I have assist. Gendered male identifying man who is the director of this show in Mark finally quaffed. He likes women as far as I know. I can't talk about his Orleans experience when balls for flying in his face that was little league. But I, and I have I have my Jamaican slash Chinese co-producer shown, we call him black. I have my my Guatemalan. I'm not sure if that's where he's from other co producer, Jason Hernandez. We've got my gay agent Willie Rodriguez who also Cubano and claims to be a Republican to weird mix and my Jewish manager out in Beverly Hills. Arthur speed that you are the most diverse person highly diverse for dude that wears a cowboy hat. Yeah. Yeah. I love them. All I just love everybody. If I dislike you, you did something to be disliked saying, I think that's fine. I think another big thing that that that I'm trying to push in my work is just this basic premise that Gooden intelligent people can disagree on matters of substance. You can you can you can. Have lots of people in your life that you don't have to agree with them. You talk to and be like, hey, the thing you did. Did you do because you're a bigot? Oh, you didn't. Okay. Well, okay. Let's talk about that. If they were like, yeah. Just hate black people. I'd be like, well, I'm not. That's terrible. Do no just I thought it was a bad idea. Okay. Exactly. So so I say this to you often, and it's it's not only a claim to fame. But it's a it's a it's a huge compliment my wife sitting over here. She got introduced you on the news and white matters. And we had done an episode together something and she said I'd like him a lot. And I said what about him? She goes. He's not. I'm gonna put that on my dating profile chatting freighters wife of not an ad. Not a lot. I hold a lot of ways. Exactly, deeply flattered. Well. And so and so because Jade Jade's never been a person whose background I in deers her to any real political leanings. She's not she she sees something. She's a commonsense gal. And so she sees it. She's like, yeah. Like this. And I was just saying way I was like heat, and because he thinks any smart and in and you're younger than a little bit younger than you. Look not told significantly. Hope I'm significantly younger than because I I looked like ABRAHAM LINCOLN impersonator dressed show host. I'm gonna shave pretty soon. It gets like eighty degrees. As I'm gonna fail now. Morrogh? Yeah. Probably shape tomorrow. Yeah. So what I need you to do if you're gonna shave the beard, first of all, it's a nice beer. Thank you leave the stash and get you a Matt Kibi curl get the hippie of the he looks like czar, nNcholas the second. He he has the slightly Prussian warlord. Yeah. Moustache? I I think if you're a white guy you wanna grow moustache, you have to either have you have to jowls. That's it. You really have to be a cop. You really maybe a fireman. I look like a nineteenth century French doer or like a very questionable wrestling coach. And so I don't think I could pull off the bus. Just look like the dad on family ties stick Steve Texan Keaton. Yes, Steve your heat. Yeah. It's it's that end we probably have some kind of ancestoral alliance with the dishes had that conversation with a picture of them. I think like a week from that. He's got worse car. Hey, everybody. How was your day at school? Here's a lunch pail. Like, I'm so close to being that guy. I'm like have had that conversation about him looking like, Alex peak Eaton's dad, and that that's funny. That's funny chat. I like you too. I enjoy I enjoy your very nice guy. You're very funny guy. And and you have a way of making everybody feeling -cluded in comfortable. I've never been around you where everyone in the room was not a part of whatever we were doing. And it's a really nice quality that you have I feel like you're you're like back in high school. You're the cool kid that's like grabbing the dorks and bringing them along. And I'm in the door. No that actually talk. I it's funny that you say that because I still to this day have the guys who were considered the quote doors in highschool. They reach out to me. And they'll still say man, we appreciate that. You were an athlete and a jock. And you know, you chose to hang out with us during cleared. It will exactly because I had enough forethought to realize these kids, we're going to be changed investment strategies, you nice to the debate kid, exactly. These little doogie howser. Nice tennis racket kid. It's so, yeah, they, you know, what that stereotypes exist for a reason. And I will tell you. I do the news is breaking today. It's just things are going crazy. I don't wanna talk about the news. I wanna talk about us. This is this is we're more important than they should do a show called this is us. Yes. Yes. I think it's been done. Dammit. Where do I want on the news, though, the the Muller probe ties it has an earlier this week? I I never covered that on my show. Yeah. Because I was just I kind of bored with it demands with you. And I thought it was probably gonna mostly be smoke, man. I one hundred percent was correct. You're a hundred percent. I only people most thinking people were correct mentioned nNcholas the second earlier. I wanna go there. Good Tony round. Which is actually the Bolshevik revolution the Russian revolution. And the era of World War One is actually my favorite in most versed piece of history. I I really enjoy that time frame because I think it was then that okay? So first of all the optimism after the civil war. The optimism. In the world, especially in America was very humanist. In thought they were as they would say in every day in every way, I'm getting better. And they would encourage people to look in the mirror and twenty times say that to yourself and so people thought. Long Robin's period really was in. So people thought that that one men were inherently good, and they thought that people were involve ING and becoming a more humanitarian and humanist state in an essence man was God in that respect. And then the stories in the songs and the poems of men going off to war in World War One. They were very optimistic and enthusiastic about going to war. Ten million deaths of men in France alone later over the four years of war one. We realized the world is is quite an evil place. Altima tely the rise of Adolf Hitler in almost what is your favorite period. I mean, do you have you ever looked into that thing and just looked at the human condition because I feel that history is being forgotten. I so I I really enjoy the enlightenment. That's that's the thing. I've been really jumping into the last few years because I think that for most of human history. I think the natural the state of man that the thing that we on some instinctive level want is we want to have an authority figure, and we want to have social betters, which is an thing that when you look like, I'm from Oklahoma. You're from Georgia. I think but if I say the Queen you don't go Jimmy Beatrice of normal. We we've got this desire to to get them. And then we have this desire to have like a like a an angry dad or a good dad, or whatever and the Enlightenment's the first time in human history. Where people went maybe we just don't need like bettors to tell us what we're doing. Maybe can do your thing. And I'll do my thing. And like actually it's going to work out pretty well. And I'm kind of freaked out now because I feel like we're going the other way where like like our friends over in Europe with European Union. They've gone feudalism. Turbo idea. We agree. Yeah. But but the basic idea of lords is awesome. It's just that. We're gonna put in like Ivy league sweater vest people. Instead of you know, blue bloods. No, no. That was no I was against the I was against the structure of it. So I like the light I'll say with World War One though. I I've been listening to Dan carlin's podcast. I don't know if you listen to hardcore history, but I had no idea how lake crazy violent all that stuff was because you World War the moment, the snappy uniforms, the the body of evil, we're we're one they're putting gas masks on horses and things they were in. It was it was, you know, World War. One was really a demonstration. Man's inhumanity to man, which is what human history is made up of its goes from one epoch to another in where people are just really being cruel to each other and World War. One was was an ultimate demonstration of that. Because now we have the advent of things like air power, and we have cameras where which can reveal a lot of these things. I don't know if you've seen Peter Jackson's documentary where he took actual footage from World War One actual I've seen previews, and I wanna why colorized it, and then he found people because it was silent film. So he found people who could lip read to interpret what these soldiers were saying. But then, you know, being a New Zealander were one buff. He brought in people from these different villages in these different areas. Who had the same accents as where these soldiers would have been from to dub the words. So it's like, you're watching them talk in their own accents tents. Yeah. It's incredible. So Peter, Jackson course Lord of the rings fame. You know, incredible moviemaker he has this museum world one museum their New Zealand, and he'd collected all these artifacts. Among. Was these films? He did. This thing says an interesting interesting little piece, I would love to watch that. I think that'd be great like World War One. The like I said they're putting gas masks on horses and things I think that would have been really freaky time in the previously. You got your job loan offer, something you just died like we're one we have all these things happening, and like battles that are like, you know, forty thousand people dying in an hour and the battle goes on for like, months, and months and months that was a a horrific thing. And then I think like this this is where the nerd me comes out where I'm like, God, the the amount of where it is Andrew where it'd be further happened. Sokaiya question if you could time travel for a week just as a tourist you can't change anything. You can hang out where would you go? Where would you hang out? Those are good question. It wouldn't be the twentieth century bloody been there I've been there. I don't want to go back to that. That was a bloody mess. But you know, I think that I think going back to the age of the renaissance, you know, the damenich family, and these these folks I would love to go back in. I think he would be great at all like a medieval of exactly I think I would go back to the renaissance and see these things that because the beauty of it is you could still see these things, you know, you can go to Rome and go to Florence. You can go to these places you see these things but to go back and see how these oh God, what's a good term form not power mongers? But just these influencers of of government, and society, and culture, and art and influence changed history. And so many big waves because you mentioned the alight and the renaissance was the same way. I mean, there's this thing where all of a sudden human history just steps up. Sticks his head out of the sand. And goes, hey, we're here. This is going to be a revolutionary change for all of human history in terms of influence, and that's one of those things, you know, that or I would say the reformation, but they probably burn me at the stake. Killed his way. So when I lived in Edinburgh, they they had a really good kind of national pastime killing witches in Scotland. And if you go to the castle esplanade, there's this placard that says over here, the burned lots of which is, but in retrospect, a lot of them were good witches, and we apologize for killing him. Tawny about none of which is it was for like nineteen ninety. They were still like to tall. Yeah. Killing the wrong. I'd go back. I would be curious to get into the mindset because I you brought up cameras a minute ago. I do think like we are kind of for good and for ill living in this panopticon moment where I don't think we quite realize how different would have been one hundred fifty years ago, where if you were at a bar or a restaurant, and you just shouted something. It would never affect anything. You could just be a complete dick and nothing. That's that was your wife's very kind of camera. Never you never. You didn't go to the pub with Enver the grid down. I'm like hidden, rakes and stuff. The thing that freaks me out is do you have like a like an Amazon Alexa or a series anything like that? I've got them. All I'm a nice guy. And I watch these these period films where like some British Lord is. How dare you bring pulse at this hour you stupid throw something, but never say that. And then I'll get home be like, Alexa, play electric light orchestra. No, not that one. You stupid robot? Ladder. And I'm currently I'm evil person. When I don't have any pushback on me. Play. Every day in my apartment by fling the door open. It's quite a yellow bitch. That is exactly. Would j what were you going to say? Oh, remember, if you could travel back in time, where would you go where would you go? What would you do just to be an observer, not change it? But just being go back to you know, when Jesus be born. Okay. So they can come back and be like told you. For the win. Luther is all about it. Well, I don't wanna go down that trail because I could be a fun conversation to get interesting. I give you my best part question. Come this to you? If you could shoot out a different liquid from every finger on your hand, you got five liquid. You can shoot out you're crazy heat. And this is an something's off. Like, I can't believe you're not married. Such random hot girl in the corner. Jay. Risky. Well, I can tell you what would shoot out of this thing. Have you choose tell you why this question. Yeah. Good question because I feel like so much of the time we go on auto pilot when you meet people because if you like most people that are bad at remembering names, it's like, hey, what's your name? Bob. I don't care moving on with my life. Label box auto pyrite thing. I don't really like asking people what they do for a living anymore because they're excited. I'm excited. I like when people are stoked about him. But if they're like, I'm a mid level accountant. I don't care. Let's move. So I'm like, okay. We think about ghosts. Let's talk about ghosts money. Raise the five fingers thing people, they get this bug. I look, and then if they if they'll join me onto might when our we have a real conversation. I'm going to see how your brain works. Let's see. Okay. So whiskey has come right thumb. You suck a specific vintage. I mean, you know, with whiskey Brown liquid, you know, right now index finger because that's your okay nice. That's good talking to the microphone say this. You're going to have a really good night out of the Mark. Steve getting getting wasted and Milton faces. Can think about what comes out of that one? Out assuming sperm. The asks on his arguments mixed up redefining biology. We don't have to have sex to have babies I gotta middle finger. There. It is somebody helped me, I don't know. After that. I'm gonna so cotton. I feel a gasoline quite help. That'd be guessing. You just be standing there by your car right there by that probably healthy to have some water water's good idea. I mean me so soup. I feel like Mesa soup. Your finger five water, whiskey and be so soup. I can live anywhere in the world. And I'm perfectly fine. You could drop me off at a desert, and I'm okay. My stupid brain goes to vodka tequila. Rum beer. A mobile hatted bar at that. Exactly. Great call me Alexander zioka taste that would that. Would that would be really good superheroes? The walking liquor camp. We just do a halt. We could do a whole Long Island sweet tea right here. Just put all my fingers in the glass and fill it up. All we need is a coke. I love it. That's a great party question Heaton, leave it to heat and come up with stuff this. Oh what what time period? Would you? Go back to party foul on a pretty good day yesterday. You don't remember it? I wish you could go back yesterday and just observe yourself. How you were all captured on film. Pretty good. Wait Jade, how about you. If I was just observing because I know it's been rough for females for a long time, which I think it's funny that females complain so much now when we've come quite a fire I wanna repeal suffrage. I really. I have if I was just there to see I would like the medieval era. Yeah. That's always been very winch. Yeah. I think that's a very romantic era. Oh, Jesus cry. They asked was what I how I felt I wanted to romantic alright he'll back to Bill Clinton's office when Monica visited back to. SE erotic thing. Clinton, and Monica Lewinsky, that's where you're gonna go. You just want to see if it really happened. Oh, it really. Dress me see what did I t's? Okay. So we have this saying around here. Steve gets his news from memes Steve gets all of his news for memes. So we're going to we're going to we're going to get a t shirt. Herbert would probably go back to when he had a body. That's a good deal though. History is fascinating. The I enjoy it. It disturbs me though that we have so much revisionist the winners. Get to tell the story first of all the winters get to tell the story. And how that's interpreted from the winners standpoint and viewpoint. You're not gonna remember my father who was stationed in Germany back in the sixties, mid sixties. Any army? He was the core of engineers. And was fortunate enough not have to go to Vietnam. But he can remember going in German homes, and they still had pictures of that off Hitler, really because in their mind. He was a great leader. Wow. Okay. So sixties because the sixties this is enough to win years after you know, he committed suicide. So so, yeah, it's it's it's weird. How people interpret? Yeah. Their history, it's like my. So I went to college in history. And it was also it was it was interesting because it gives you these sort of mental frameworks to realize that people think about things differently like like doing history, if you take the election between Grover Cleveland and McKinley. I'm not sure let's say those two guys ran against each other. I don't remember the for whatever reason there's kind of like range of people with really good facial nineteen hundred eighteen eighty to nineteen hundred I don't actually know anybody. And like if you're if you're a Marxist, then you would look back and go, well, then I'm gonna look for economic. Economic signifies. I'm going to look back and go, you know, what were the what was the average income in the United States that time that kind of thing or you might look and go, well, I'm where religious oriented. So I wanna look and see where there people that was a surprise versus Catholic thing was the secular versus Christian thing were maybe I'm I think it's ideological and it's more. We were they, you know, classical liberal or were they were they progressive, and you can you can begin to see these filters that people put on things, and I find that. That's a very helpful skill set to have particularly when you get into a Vincent in day where you can go. Okay. 'cause I'm when I look at the news, I might be approaching it from very different lens in somebody else's and helps them figure out what they're talking about. When I realized that they've got this very specific mindset that they're bringing to it. Mckinley got shot nineteen. Foot story with McKinley. And this is probably made up, but I like I've been tour guide and three cities. I was a got gotten Edinburgh to guy in Washington DC and for one day in New York, and in DC the story that I've talked about with McKinley was McKinley got shot. And I believe he got shot by a disgruntled guy that hadn't he wanted. He wanted to become postmaster Jasim postmaster McKinley is shot. And and it's not it's probably not gonna kill him. He's probably okay. Like, he's these tough guys back, then these are all like, you know, like civil war vets. And they they bring him to the hospital and they call the smartest. Scientists of the day. Who is who's the guy that invented the lightbulb Edison, Edison? Thank you. So they bring it out supposedly there. Yeah. You know, the the one we know right here the bringing Thomas Edison, because he invented the very first medal sector, and so they brought an Edison to to bring his medal and locate the bullet in the most incredibly specific and targeted way, you could do ten logically. So he brings his. Thing in like, you know, there it is. They dig it out. And they're like good job. Everybody is like hold on. Let's do another pass in case. The the lead fractured. So another pass. And yet there's so us. Okay. There's still more lead in there guys keep going and they keep doing export torture. They can't find anything. They another pass being keep doing sports or surgery this point. They're all like, you know, risk deepen the president's guts looking for this thing. And he's I'm sorry it somewhere in there. You gotta find they keep doing this. And then. After forty minutes of the back of the room goes, excuse me. Mr. Edison, the fact that the president's on a metal cot with the issue here today, just president McKinley with his technology. Yep. So Edison Edison killed McKinley. But but that was to your point. I mean, it's like everything is kinda tainted and filtered the whole thing. And it's it's a crazy thing. It's in. That's. By the way, on that point before we go any further because we've said this in a recent episode Millan Millard Fillmore had to have the most integrity of any president. Ever twice. Everybody's favorite president. Everybody loves Miller Fillmore Millard Fillmore in the middle of the podcast and every body in the room was like who he was fifty. This pecker head googled it. Nobody else knew that he might. He might have been our first gay president Millard Fillmore is it became an I can't you can't be cancel one that like a gentleman. With him. Yeah. So, but no, I I love I love this thing. And here's what I want to get into. Here's why was Millard Fillmore the most hitting. I just love say names that people are like, no, I do that is he's president United States. You should have a contest where you make up one factor week at see who can nail to good idea. That's why I keep you around yet in this people. If you're not watching and listening to something off the enter you gotta be doing this thing. I'm telling you, you will learn you'll laugh and you'll learn and that's what pre shit about you. Here's the thing. I say all the time the phrase, you said it, and I love it the two hundred years from now aliens are going to invade earth. And they're going to dig up. Artifacts are going to Twitter records isn't going to say, oh, look they had a washed up gameshow host and they made him their king. I love that. Thank you. That is the best analogy of Donald Trump. I think that's about right? I think like I to a weird extent. I think about what a future civilization will think of it. Because like I said I was history. Major right. Keep talking glasses or thank you. So the the. If you're if you're a historian almost all of human history, everything we know about it is from one of three things it's from crap people left behind by accident like pottery shards, it's from propaganda, right? Like arc the Gulf war from the perspective of Saddam Hussein. That's most recorded history. Right. And then the third one is letters mostly from Benjamin Franklin, but letters and missives that we have we have found, right? So I look at Twitter, and I'm like, oh my God. In the thousand years now, they're going to understand our civilization based on all the asinine crap. We'd head on Twitter. So they're gonna wake up and go the twenty first century. People hated Mondays. But they love memes of cats playing piano that it'd be everything you've done in your life. They get all the wonderful your wedding all that stuff. There. I'm day was a fun day. Thank goodness. It's Friday cash tag week. That's going to be the most asinine not. But we're going to be percent as the most Jerasia history. And then if you were Elliot's sifted through all the stuff, if you're going through VHS tapes, you would go human life is nothing but birthday partisan going to the beach. That's all even know of. And then now it'd be like and they elect game show hosts president like, yeah. That's that's the that's the world. I have this philosophy in put it in your head and just get your take on it. So everybody news heard me say this million times throughout history. People have put their story on wall. Whether it was a cave drawing gypsy hieroglyphic, or whatever it was. Now, we're putting it on a digital wall used to be. We kept the words of posterity for posterity of the poets in the prophets in the kings in the philosophers in these folks, you know, we remember what Plato and Aristotle and Socrates said now now everybody has a voice not everybody is responsible with their. Voice. And so we're putting the stuff out there. And we're going to be interpreted by history based on the pablum that we have produced en masse social media, and that's how we're going to be interpreted throughout history. I mean, it's it's not gonna Bill through says I seen you on Facebook like that. That's that's horrible. So maybe Facebook will wind up being the Rosetta Stone. In which like, I like resented stone. Bond ex it's just horrible. It's like if aliens come down, I think there should be a lot of aliens come down immediately just destroy every single YouTube message board because I don't wanna be like, hey, come check out the Grand Canyon. And then like everybody shuts down because there's so dark stuff stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Well there too late. You think about like reading a book about I'm talking to a guy about Adam Smith on Thursday PG works going to be on. And I really love it. Yeah. Yeah. He's a funny. Funny, man, he's coming on to talk about and, but but I was going through when when he wrote the wealth of nations like the the amount of people that could purchase books was like one percent of the population. So if you're at that time, if you were writing your writing for this, very specific set, and clearly, it's awesome. That like now, we're all literate and could talk like, I'm, you know, my family was living in a dugout three generations ago and. In. But at the same time Loma. Yeah. Oklahoma get now, we got there. It was there wasn't anyone even trees we had to dig a hole on the hill in limited. But. The way you are the smartest human that has ever come out of Oklahoma. Thank you very much. We'll take that. I don't know that it's necessarily a compliment, but you are head and shoulders above the general populace. I I am the Frazier crane of Oklahoma. Doc except that mantle I'm gonna take. Okay. Yeah. I lost my point. I know you're talking about more awesome heat analogies. But nobody it has like the whole kind of shift that you're losing to think we've gone from quality to quantity. Where do you wanna make a splash? You wanna get the biggest outreach and make the talk to the most people you can as opposed to honing tweeting every hour. I'm relevant. Yeah. And that's why I'm not huge on Twitter because I try to say things that are meaningful and you'll need to follow him at mighty Heaton on Twitter today. So Backley, I'm the same way. So you have very thoughtful tweaks. You and I are the same. But where you're you're making fun content. You're making regular you go to promote it. Yeah. But at the same time, like you're a thoughtful person, I think you're also a focused person. Yeah. Select like, I don't it bothers me when I hang out with my friends that are in their twenties. I'm thirty five my friends that are in their twenties are constantly tweeting or they're on Facebook. Whatever in it kind of weirds me out because I don't want to if I'm spending time with somebody. I just want to spend time with them. I don't wanna be out in either. And and it it's that kind of that that off balance being present. And being you know, in that moment. Exactly. Yeah. So I had dinner together, you know. Don't wanna put neither one of us ever took our phone. We talked the whole time. Exactly enjoy being with that person. It's weird to me that people. There you're with someone that you're not with them. And then all of a sudden, you know, you're texting somebody else we're talking to somebody else. But then if I'm with that person that I was texting I'm gonna be texting you. It's weird phenomenon. Like, we're never satisfied in the moment with the human beings that were with anyway, I wanna talk about you for sick. Oh, that's my favorite subject. Let's get you were getting all zinn focused. Let's talk about the career path. How did you and you alluded some places you've worked and you've done a lot of different thing. I know you have to Oklahoma City zoo. We I that's that's good, folks. The dolphin show. They kept catching strep throat. Sorry about that. They wouldn't be by never touched dolphin. That was just say to enter Heaton is not only a comedian he legitimate. He's a comedian stand up comedian. But he's also master of improv and a student of that we'll get into that the second. But let's walk me through the process of of what brought you here today. I think I'll be zoo. Yeah. No. So I okay. So I graduated college. And I I went to a I went abroad for a year because I wanted to live in another country, but I didn't wanna have to learn a new language. So I went to Scotland that seemed like the easy easy way to do it. And then I lived in. I lived in LA for about six months live in a tool shed behind my best friend's house because I I wanted to get into radio when a great friend. He couldn't give you the gal. You if you're twenty three you're moving to L A live in a tool shed. It is great. I it was like living in a big Easter egg. And it was really nice. I did that. But I wanted to get into radio with time. But like the, but it was it was eight and so the recession it just hit and an NPR purged everybody. And so I I wound up being background actor like like an extra in film for and I didn't really luckily, so I I moved to DC and I worked for congress for a little while. And then I got a scholarship to go back to Edinburgh where I lived to get a degree in international, politics and through this process. I'm doing stand up at night. And I kept doing it. When I was in Scotland, actually, I think the the highlight of my comedy career was I got asked to be a regular comedian thank called Saturn Edinburgh. Saturnalia cabaret. So you're doing comedy in Scotland. Yeah. Yeah. I was doing county. Scotland I was the comedian at this this Merican accent. Yeah. Well, it it. I'm sure it would have curb slightly because at once you're if I think they're new one. Yeah. Drop your ours come out. But but but but I was doing that. I I went on between a lady that took her clothes off in a guy that eight light bulbs. And I think that was like the best guy. Yeah. Yeah. So I did that for and then and then I went back to DC. And I thought I was going to get like a suit and tie job like is a bureaucrat, and and then eventually I was going to try and get New York and do comedy. And and then I was there for like six months year. Now, why am I doing? I don't want to be a bureaucrat. I'd rather be funny. So I up and moved to New York and was doing comedy up there and a few people over at FOX business found out that I was a stand up comedian. But also, I like free markets, and I like Bilton Friedman, and there's not a there's not a huge pronounced intersection. That's not a big convergence circle. So they went sina stuff about congress. But also you like capitalism, and I was like, yeah, Andrew funny. And I was like I am one of the three. And so they hired me and I worked on that odor. I worked on a couple of shows doing that. And then in worked for reason for a bit which is a wonderful, libertarian magazine and publication at a New York, and then I out shooting DC in then then about six months ago. I just I finally kind of I'm is a Senate from. Oklahoma originally, I just kind of got worn out on New York overall. I was tired of direct contact being prelude to murder in. So decided it's about time for me to head home. So my walks in the park and then rape. Yeah. No, I say hide it like I'd leave the apartment of the morning and go like, oh, good morning and my neighbor go, I don't wanna buy drugs. I don't belong here anymore. I never belonged here. So I moved in. And then I got I got scooped up by the blaze, and I went, okay. That sounds like a fun game that happened. I mean, what was the process there? I think they found some of the stuff of noon for reason because they've been making a lot of funny. I I did I hosted a show called mostly weekly which was kind of like a Craigslist last week tonight for libertarians do this so much people really need to listen to what you just said. There's a lot see that's comedy to make that really closely analogy like a Craigslist. That's awesome. Yeah. A poorer poor late night show, but from a decidedly free market perspective. And so I think the blaze watch that if you people have been fans today hit me up, and then brought me on a now, I'm doing this and colleagues with you love it. Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate that take my wife room. He doesn't gallery. Hey, the difference between you and my wife. She is a. During the headlights. You've done a bunch of comedy all over the place because every time I talked to you just got back from a gig somewhere. You've done it all over the states. Do you find that in have have you done it internationally either way the questions same? Do you find that humor changes anywhere? Do you find you have to change your game? When you're the prizes. Surprisingly, you know, the thing about international stuff is, you know, obviously, we're not talking about Nigeria here. We're talking about the UK. Although I one hundred percent go to Nigeria if they if they flee down there a grad time, it's not I've been there time to trust me. It is on the do not fly list is humor is hard to translate. When it's your culture, it's that much harder to try to do it in a culture that that's totally different beers. I find that my humor translates well in Australia. Yeah. It translates well in the UK in in Austria like like they're too is basically Georgia. It is. I mean, like really light like demographic amazement found this had like four months ago, like everyone industry area that came over in the seventeen whenever they as prisoners. They had Georgia was a prisoner caller to like the British for sending over there. They're felons to the to the colony of Georgia. And at some point the when my then making lot of noise. I don't think we should send them anymore felons. Let's do any islands in the Pacific. It's like a straight basically, they're Cowboys from the British. And they're all and there's a lot of Australia's who are watching this podcast. Listen this podcast in my heart goes out to you. Because I know you hate your progressive government. And it's gone. It's just been crazy for twenty five years. It really hasn't in heart goes out to the tragedy and Zeeland, and I'm also sorry that now that you're having give up they lost a prime minister one time herald Holt, they don't talk about this. But they literally just lost him. Not swimming. If it came back like imagine of Gerald Ford with swimming during the Cold War and just never came back. That would be the biggest frigging conspiracy theory all of history. Swimming. He didn't come back. We go to new palm minister and. Hey. Talk about that. That's amazing. My mind flash is back to the movie. What was it nineteen forty one ninety forty two the John Belushi movie where the girl goes out swimming? And all of a sudden Japanese subculture. The Russians went like grabbed and put them in their subway. Face in Moscow, and they're gonna thaw out, and they kidnap Hollis Hollywood. And they're like, where's Hollywood? Hollis would. Who would any of box of cracker, Jack and the gift the little prizes a compass? And that all he grabs. Go watch the frigging movie. It's funny. How would anyway? That's what happened to the bridge. Newseum? Yeah. Yeah. Have a surfing friend in New Zealand. Yeah. Back to your point. And he says every year every surfing season, we lose at least one person to a great white shark. If you if you serve for sharks on the north coast. He said, we there's at least one person that goes away. Surfing from great white, shark, which would tell me I don't want to surf in New Zealand. I don't. So there's a good chance the prime minister Wade out. I think very like I went to stray for about a month and everything's trying to kill you everything. Everything's trying to hold place exists whole place like like if like California exist to take your money trail, you have you have duck beavers about that from an adult Bill. It's a duck beaver dot created a pervert beaver put on this island at the far into the supposed to live there. It's supposed to be in Australia. Give you a wide shot under your Charrette. Look look back over there. Studio. Twenty two we got heads laying around here. Listen, there's Holt. He made it there. He is. There's the prime minister we've got his head. If you're not watching the Jeb their show, you frigging missing out. We had an Oklahoma. We lose like a hand every year in the in the noodling festival in the y'all know what who Ling is. Yeah. Okay. Because you're you all for proper America. Let's do it. But you said. Yeah. So if he'll right after that guy, if he if you're listening to a home, you don't know, what noodling is noodling is when you go into a lake and you put your hand down the biggest hole, you can find an you hope something bites your hope, it's GATT as you pull it out, and it usually fish, but sometimes it's a beaver and beavers bite your hand off. And somebody lose a finger every two three years somebody will die and the whole thing. Just like a Cormack McCarthy novel set in Ireland, Texas, it's an amazing amazing thing players takes population. One nine one when nineteen. My good friends Hannah. And her dad Jeff baron earned south Alabama. And that's kind of their claim to fame is their outdoor people. But they they noodle. I don't like being in the water. I don't care what watery is going to get in the swimming pool. I will be on the water or by the water. I don't wanna be in the water, especially the ocean, seafood. Really? But I don't wanna be in the water. Now, the last time you and I had sushi together. I got sick. Angry AM poisoned you. Sure. Pounds over twenty four hours. I don't want to kill him. But I just wanna test. That was great. Nice. Thanks, Dave galley, this why keep this guy around. No. But they get in the murkiest water and stick their hands and muddy holes and hope to pull a fish out. That's the dumbest thing you could do in murky waters. Now some. Some. Hand and our anyway talking about people disappear in. We were in Kabo this last summer in Jade had an accident. We won't get into with the serve because I tell you don't get in the water there because it's it's the undertow is so bad the tiger so bad in most of the beaches in combo, but they had a couple who had came out to renew. Their vows. They were in their sixties came out to renew. Their wasn't lapses. Exactly. You got it. You we do. They're not they're not they're not for straw till death. Do. Count. We do couples called an Oscar base. We you've heard of couples massages tissue. We we've been overlook each other in the. You know, we were in new are very of it. These folks are in their sixties and went out to the water to just kind of look over the ocean and guess wept away away hit them. They never saw him. Again. They renewed their vows and that went into eternity together. Okay. Yeah. So I don't I don't do Meriden rainstorm, folks. Do it in Kansas tied not with your tone that you can't untie with your teeth. That's the deal. Okay. Make it forever. But no, I eat. So you wound up here at the blade how you adjusted to live in doubt you in Dallas. I'm in the Bishop arts district Dallas, which would be I would be. I agree. Yeah. But it's like have you seen this show the good place Danson? It's like that. If it were in Texas dance is one of the nice nicest. Nice nice guy. I like Dallas. I like the whole thing's been really good. I mean, the the the my blood pressure is noticeably lower because in New York, like it's, you know, some of my best friends of New York. There's a lot of really good things going for New York getting raped in central park. I well, you know. Yeah. Those that Tuesday ribs terrible thing. I don't wanna show up. I have to the the New York. It got to me because it is so frenetic like, it's it's very the the friction of the the energy level necessary to live there. And it's also the etiquette models. Very different me being from Oklahoma. The etiquette where I'm from is that you show respect buying gauging with people. So like my faint. My the heat and family is our strongholds alva-, Oklahoma. And if you if you're driving into Alvin you don't wave at people, they're like, why aren't you waving like, what did you what are you having and the home of Blake Shelton? And then he's from that sounds eighty eight don't. Yeah. I think I'm not very modest modest syllabi. The ruin Oklahoma's all of our towns are named after the last red guy or the first white guy. So there's a very specific pattern that you can see playing out over the, but, but it's it's a very very gregarious place last. The I in in in New York, though, you give respect by giving people space. Right. And I'm never going to reconcile that. I couldn't square that that, sir. Whereas douse is lovely in that capacity. It would I could I could do a little bit friendlier in that. Like I've been to like small towns in the south where like you come in. And they're like, hey like you wanna live with us. Like there is a certain like in really over the top that I quite like, no, it's been nice. I like having a car again and me drive everywhere. I call people on the phone a lot more and more connected to my friends and family. It's been good. You're talker. I mean, when I say that I mean in a good way, cause you you're communicators. So you like the talk on the phone you actually have the over the table conversation or the telephone commerce. I get all my energies from other people say that to the older, I get like the more important. Those relationships are to me as well. We're like Nick now, it's very important. Mark thirty five. Think you're very magnetic over here. We've been talking about you. And Jay this like a panel home. My god. Thank you. This is that there's you know, and you can't put your thumb on it. But Steve has a crush. I'll take it from all three. Thank you very much the same time. Great except your tripartite. On mystery. See the back of your head. But it's not until finally lofta retract back. We went on a date with you. You would ask us like what your favorite cereal? I'll say this wouldn't be boring though. Anyway, boring. I never had. I've never thought about you know, what if I had to swap the bottom half of my body with an animal. What animal I'd pick. And you know, it'd be interesting. Yeah. I would like to see in Fort Worth. Because if your blood pressure is decreased in Dallas, we would bring a chair and have it behind you at all times in Fort Worth because we're doing to bring come over. We'll. Dinner at bluegrass over there. Because I haven't found any bluegrass. Really, I think I think this area's gone full Hilton country. Not really there's no real good bluegrass anywhere anymore. I it's I wanna I wanna bring it to Fort Worth it put up at the Hilton downtown. We'll take you to find enter Australia. I've Tom told Denton too. I have not been good just as far away from where it's at, you know, didn't kinda grownup so big that it's like every other metropolitan areas trying to figure out his traffic situation. But didn't you know? You know, you need come over. There are friend. We went to a tasting the other night for Stephan Rochelle is a good friend of ours. He's a chef. And he's opening a new place called wish bone and Flint there on the south side of Fort Worth fantastic. I still don't know what I ate. I had beef jaw beef jaw go beef young. It was it was apparently jaws very Tinder, very tasty meat. I don't know. But it was good. And so we have all these schifrin's over there. You gotta come to Fort Worth your town fully shift, can I will. And I'm told I'm told where it's a little bit more gregarious to which I do like that. It's a little more laid back. It's a big small town and it held onto its heritage albeit it has grown very cosmopolitan within its countdown to write you tend to like, particularly as part of the country tend to be cow towns and oil oil-town's that's true in Dallas oil town in. Yeah. Now Dallas is oil is where the money came from. And in Dallas is a weird place. You only about ten percent of the people who live in Dallas are actually from Dallas. Really? Wow. Yeah. Checks checks. Everybody. I'm meets somebody. They're always from somewhere. But now I grown to enjoy Dallas. I was conceived in Dallas. So my parents thing and horrible place. But I I have this. You know, I believe that birth begins at conception. And so I'm a Texan. Okay. And there you go, but I was born in New Jersey. So there is a New Jersey. Four months of my if I would have put you in as as your by John? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I I do love John. Yeah. I was through there. It is the Hoboken of. See that habit. Well, I just love saying as your Johnny. I'm johnny. Oh my God. You like you like being here me on the tax only initially move down to Austin in Austin is a quirk based economy, and I like that I like the quirky. So like like, I fit very well in Austin because I showed up I got out of my car. And then I here's your ukulele or you come into the turtle race. And I was like is that we're doing that today though? It was today. We're going to turn rates, but you go to these things like were at south by south west. Yes. And I'll say like Dallas has Dallas. I think Dallas is like Oklahoma city's older hotter sister. So I get it. Like, I get down. I I understand what's happening in Oklahoma City is the same way where there's really cool stuff having Oakland city. You just have to look for it. Yeah. Austin's very it's very. You you you need a Pliono effort to find weird stuff in Austin, Oklahoma City, I'm into like I've been to prison rodeos, I've been to a rattlesnake Derby's. But you have to have a car, you have to know some people like a big foot hunts hippie hollow. No am oh in Austin. You did. Is that is that the newest thing they do in the comes out. Have you been nudist camp? I've been a hippie hollow. Have you ever been to Andrew you've ever been to a new like no I thought about going for thanksgiving one year? But I. But I, but I actually I was actually give serious thought to this time. I thought it'd be interesting. Yeah. So I went to three day weekend thing. I swear to God this I like I just had to go see whatever this was in. So I got invited to this thing. And I was like, okay. So this is a nudist. They there are things there. You cannot unseat. Like there are things. You don't wanna see their things you can't unseat like it's not this is not Sports Illustrated issue. This is not these people the it's a weird. It's a weird thing, man. The first nude beach over went to I went to I was in a Barscelona. I never been. I'm again, I'm from Oklahoma. It's like a Norman Rockwell painting. I've never I've never been to a nude beach. And I went to Barscelona, and it was a nude. I found out. It was a nude beach after I showed up I didn't go because it was a new major. I'm glad because I would have been so disappointed. No one no one that was naked that beach should have even been an extra in a documentary about craps. Put a single one of those people on camera from eighty feet away. All terrifying. Horrible horrible people that want to go to beaches should not be nude. No. However, there was this great moment where it was. It was ought ought seven in. And there was this. He says there isn't he doesn't consistently. There. There's a protest going around Europe where everybody would ride bicycles naked to protest the war in Iraq or something. And they they went past this beach in Barcelona everybody came out, and we all started applauding, and and they happen to go pass this this name, the nude bicyclists went past this eighty year old man in electric wheelchair. Who did not know what was going on? He's just riding his wheelchair back to the house or whatever. And all these naked. And he starts looking around and his face was just filled with this beatific joy at he kicked his wheelchair in high gear. And it was like the eight year old version of the running of the bulls. It was like I've never seen so happy about life. It was great. The. Thank you very much. Love hearing him. I love the oh. Gosh. That's funny. Enter oh, God, Andy Heaton. I don't wanna stop yet. I just don't wanna stop yet. There's there's a couple of things. Okay. So wanna stop? If you can't me I'll come back. We work thirty feet away from each other. And I like, whiskey, and you so we can make this happen. You gotta watch it. You gotta you gotta listen to it. You have to subscribe to something off the ender heating, you can see it. He's got snippets on Facebook YouTube. It's it's all over the place. You gotta see it. I appreciate the fact that you as technically a millennium. Yeah. I'm like a fifth year. Money are an intellectual. Thank you, they exist. Yeah. Thinking critical thinking, intellectual, and I always learned something by being with you. I always laugh being with you. And I enjoy being with you. So I think that anybody listen to your show is going to do the same thing in in in this is in and I'm not kidding. I don't I don't like Sara Gonzalez. I've spent a lot of. It's been a long time, but she's really needy. He's a. That's why I came. Here was the slag on Siragusa in in in a really I wish we'd a built the wall long before her family. I appreciate you. Appreciate what you do. I appreciate everybody. Watching listen to this. I need all the thousands tens and tens of thousands of you. Go follow my friend. Andrew heating. Party foul. Steve did you learn something today be I just wanna know back hippie hollow with Natalie there, you wanna hear that story. Get naked hippie. Actually, I was a news reporter there was a story there now in covering the heat investigative journalist is we have your best things are left and former Dallas Cowboys earlier, I've never seen a. To what you were saying a place like hippy hollow. I mean, I know there's tally Wacker's flapping in the wind all over. But it's not really a place. You wanna go? That's not the most they tend to not flap. They more pokes. They kind of like they just kind of look at you like a porpoise that leans a little key. Right. Like the fat that they got the Fuca. They got the typic-. They're not a typic-. They got the Dickie do or the dick. Did you belly sticks? There's got to be a German word for what we describing. There's got to be a German word for the phenomenon of brick. The new one eight two beach when you should never go to beach. I bet usually. Yeah. You should prosecution. Buckets. No, I I r I j nice I knew beach experience was in Jamaica. We just happened to walk too far. And suddenly we were there, and we immediately turned around and walked back. It was wasn't good. Well, it was almost uncomfortable. Because we had we had a bathing suit on. We really stood out dare you. Over get naked. I'm like, but you're always that way. We get naked somewhere another show three times you've never worn pants single time. Every time I asked what I wear is green tights, and they just put the screen my my pants on. Yeah. We should do an episode with just boxer shorts. That would be I'm up for that where the tide. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. We'll we'll we'll get cigars where we're underwear. You. See they don't think outside the box here. That's the problem. I have a problem with that. All right, guys. Get his podcast listen to it. He's on you four five times a week five times over worker daily. Thank you hard hard core. And it's good stuff. You're gonna learn something try and make every every episode funny up top where I write the stuff in advance. Even I bring on a bunch of different people. You work really hard. Thank you. You worked really hard. Your show is well produced love your set, and you are an incredibly inventive and creative genius there. You are not it on a shirt. You are I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to this episode. Every damn also not I'll tell you. Dennis Miller told me on a podcast episode. Once he said everytime. I'm feeling low. I'm just gonna call you up. My man. I just tell me what to think about. And so I it's it's a good show. So go get something's off ender heating. Do it. Thanks for being on set. The Rams drinking my whiskey, my redneck whiskey. Good stuff. It's twenty two dollars a bottle. I'm gonna have to drink water with my producer for the next two hours. Drive home. It'll squirt right out of your finger. How Steve hot news Natalie? Of course from my lovely wife. Jay and the puppetmaster over here Mark in candidacy Queen of the is not with us today. She's over there doing work. I love you. Godless, see next time.

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Balancing Measurement, Common Sense and Intuition | 4A's Strat-Fest Fireside Chat

The GaryVee Audio Experience

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Balancing Measurement, Common Sense and Intuition | 4A's Strat-Fest Fireside Chat

"Having that DNA has helped me the amount of times, I've walked into a meeting where the Millard Brown case study that data logic study, and the mom have said everything is phenomenal. And the businesses down seventeen percent is way too often, and somehow we accept that. So I think we have to have far more serious conversation around measurement because we're measuring the wrong things this is we are absolutely somehow, eliminating common sense from the equation. This is the Gary v audio experience. Today. You'll hear an awesome episode from the four as strat fest back in October of two thousand sixteen Gary talks a lot about the shortcomings of traditional media dealing in alternatives and the ROI of different situations. Enjoy the episode and the rest of your weekend. Please let us know thought on social Gary v up next. He will know she said we have to Chaz next to me, one of these chess is for Kerry Flynn, who is a journalist, who's written full Huffington Post Forbes, money magazine and is now business reporter for mash -able with this particular specialism in the tech industry. The other CIA is full, Gary von choke, who has a familial headline, which is new builds businesses. And that is something that absolutely no one can argue straight out of college. He took his family business from three million to sixty million in five years. He's a prolific angel investor and venture capitalist investments. Including Uber Facebook and Birch box. He now runs. Veda media, social media. First digital agency and has been named to both fortune and Crain's forty under forty list this year. Please welcome carrying, Gary. Hello. Hey guys, thanks for that great introduction. So, yes, some Kerry Flynn, I write from mash -able and here with Gary. So I'm guessing you guys. I mean you've got a brief introduction. I'm thinking you guys, probably all know Gary beaner, Chuck. But I would love Gary for you to introduce yourself. When you go to an event. How do you how do you introduce yourself? What think you know, I think the fragmentation of attention and marketing and calms is so intriguing actually think how many people here have no idea who I am raising? That was pretty better. I'm that was a good ego boost. Usually, usually how I go into conferences asked that question and the number is always very, very high. And I can only see the organizers squirming of either they overpaid me or they feel bad for me. But usually I you know, I contextualize myself as an entrepreneur, but I always reverse engineer the audience, right, like my biggest my biggest want up here in our next thirty minutes is I was walking around and looking at name tags asked ahead of time. We talked to me what I'm going to deliver is the context of what I think, is the most interesting and most valuable thing to talk about to the people in the room. I think as somebody who's been on stage a lot. I'm fascinated by how eighty percent of presentations are just one long press release. Right. So I think I take this very seriously. And the way I introduced myself usually is under the context of what could conceivably bring value to the people in the audience? Great. Well, then let's talk a little bit about being in media in terms of building that out because it seems to be really went with that mission in mind what did you really want to offer the world that didn't that didn't exist before? So I. I grew up in my family's liquor store business that I watched one of the first e wind businesses in one thousand nine hundred six and I built my business with no money and the reason it became a big business because I Google ad words the day came out for five cents a click for the word wine. And because I started a YouTube show, five months after YouTube came out and because I had an Email newsletter in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven that had ninety one percent open rates. And so my entire narrative has been very simple. And I think for all of us in this room, I think the world is pretty basic, mainly because I'm pretty basic, which is there's overpriced attention, and there's underpriced attention and while most of the world spends a lot of time trying to quantify and find the ARA, why of underpriced attention. I think the better model is to be a practitioner on your intuition around normal people's behavior. Learn it and maximize the ROI. So I did that for my family business. That went great that I invested in all these companies Facebook Twitter tumbler made a lot of money, and then I decided in my continued mission to buy the New York Jets though, they're testing me. That the way I was going to do that was to buy brands and flip them. So I think nostalgia is the most underpriced asset in the world. And so my dream is to buy Tootsie rolls or case with sneakers or what have you at scale fifty sixty one hundred two hundred million dollars. Do the thing that I do, and then flip it for one billion dollars. And that's how I think I from self-aware standpoint can achieve my audacious goal to do that. I knew I knew that I needed to understand marketing and media at the scale of which I wasn't playing at as an entrepreneur, and as the best. So I decided seven years ago to each ship for a decade and build a client service, business and, and. And, and I needed to learn why all these big brands were doing the things that I thought were stupid because I didn't have the audacity or the ego to think they were stupid. I just knew they were playing a different game. I had to understand why on a bad student, I learned by doing. And so I set out to build the best marketing machine is what I would call it more than an agency. And, and so we've grown very fast. I two years, I was still busy with the wind business, and I had a book that went very viral that kind of ragged me out there. And but for the last five years in the business, we've gone from thirty to seven hundred fifty people from three to one hundred million in revenue, all organic, no Manet. So we built a real big business. And I think we've done it because our interests have been aligned with our clients, because I'm not trying to build an agency to sell to Martin sorelle. I'm trying to buy build an agency for myself to become my clients, which is allowed us to be very aligned with our clients, which is very different than the. Marketplace of media agencies and marketing agencies, and we also do every capability because I'm building it for myself, we do media buying and creative, and extend Devon. So that's, that's why it happened. Let's talk about the early days, then you said you looked around and it's all of these brands doing, quote unquote, stupid things. Yes. What are you don't have to name names, a telethon you give me some examples about what were people doing wrong? I mean look I mean to sit in this room in October twenty sixteen and have, you know, it's funny. Let's take this go out with one of your friends that has nothing to do with marketing or business and explain the bowling. Okay. So here's how it works a human, a single human at an agency a creative lead and another human on the brand side. And let me tell you about the human on the brand side. This person went to business school to sell stuff and run. An operational Pia. No, these people sit the creative single person humanly makes us. Subjective. Call on a tagline and a video concept. Narrows it down from the seven rate. I the Asians of his or her team to one or two because you only have an hour to present it, they go to the human that is there to run a panel. And the two of them make a subjective creative call of what that business should stand for, for the entire year. And then that company takes sixty to eighty percent of its monies and makes a single thirty second video to be played in a commercial format in twenty sixteen. And this is to drive the sales of their business. There's no common sense, human on earth. That thinks that's a good idea. We in the marketing world play that game. I think that's insanity. That excites me. That's the opportunity. Not really. I mean like like on like I mean I, I don't know who does what I mean I could be wrong. The marketplace itself out, but who watches a commercial in two thousand sixteen like so here I want to quantify this, I'm not a digital list or a futurist. I think the Super Bowl commercial is the number one by in marketing, if I buy brand tomorrow, and I have a limited amount of money, the first thing I buy is the Super Bowl because everybody in America is going to pay attention to that whether they watch it on YouTube, we're doing the game. And I thirty seconds to tell you what I'm about the problem with Super Bowl ads. Is there a showcase for creative agencies to get new clients and acquire more talent? They're not there to sell shipped. Right. So I think that's the best buy marketing, I think the worst by in marketing, in the world is the second most expensive commercial on television. I don't know what that is, whether it's the Oscars or the AFC championship game. Game or the Emmys. I don't know what it is. But it's the worst because we do watch those commercials. It goes to commercial and we grab our phone and we talk about that dress or that play or what just happened are attentions not there. My living is very simple in my bio where it says, I built businesses. I don't know what paper my team sends around these days. But on the website, it says, comma, I dates rate attention attention is the only asset it's the only asset and there's overpriced attention and there's underpriced attention direct bail, is overpriced attention, it works spend one hundred thousand dollars direct mill you will get things to happen. But when you know that there's a Facebook targeted world out there that you could do it better and cheaper. That's a better idea. And so that's just what I spend my whole life doing. What's overpriced? What's underpriced, what's practical? I try to put myself out of business every day if I started baiter media today, we would be an Alexa, boy. Message bought top level, domain, consultant video production, vertical phone shop, so so, so. I don't know what are we talking about? You've heard about what you guys are you talking about television? You talked about Facebook. So from understand that people in the room, you could say there are certain agencies that specialize in television. There are certain agencies, specialize in digital. There's an agencies that your like you're saying, I'm specific voice recognition chat bots. You guys do actually want to conquer at all. He has when I say, concrete all a, my first level of responsibility is to deliver for our clients, because they're paying us so vain in its current form today, what we want to do for a living is, we want to spend our clients money in a way that sells them the most stuff or whatever they're trying to achieve, and we are completely agnostic to where this, I built my career on Twitter, it's where I came out of for some of you that know, lamb, I wasn't happy, the Twitter was losing attention in two thousand eleven but when I was making those videos, five years ago like I'm worried about this. Like I was worried about it. I was at the top of the heap. I was one of the twenty five most followed people in the world. World on Twitter like life was good. I wish Twitter stained for thousand years. It would have been easy. I wasn't happy to put in work on buying and Snapchat Instagram. It just it's not my choice and what I'm fascinated by is how many people are willing to lines in the sand and hold onto things because they're in their short term financial vested interest. It is a massive business phone ability. And so what do people need to get rid of, like, if you had to give people a list of like three things, maybe people should stop doing their current agencies emotion emotions of good thing to get rid of, and I mean, that I think like a lot of things that are holding people back is, is the emotion of it. They hold certain things on a pedestal we hold. For example. Let me let me give you a good example. We think somehow in our current society, we decided that if you write another human being a letter that you're somehow now the greatest fucking human being on earth, like, we put things on pedestals for no reason, we are so. Scared of change that we put writing a letter on a pedestal because this somehow means you care so much versus a text which at the end of the day are exactly the same thing. If you write the same thing, it's the message is the same. It's the medium of delivery. So I think the first thing that people need to do is actually get rid of a motion number two is have a real conversation about measurement. Yeah. Like measurement is one of the great things that happened to me is, I started an agency knowing nothing about the business, and I'm eating nothing have nothing. It was actually quite stupid, but, you know. But what I did know was my life as an immigrant, that had a family liquor store business. Our KPI was not winning award in France, or getting a headline in a magazine or some bullshit, bottling mix. That was manipulated to force company to spend money on what they believe in, like, archea was selling Pino Grecia. Right. And so having that DNA has helped me the amount of times, I've walked into a meeting where the Millard Brown case study, the data logic study, and the minimum have said everything is phenomenal. And the businesses down seventeen percent is way too often, and somehow we accept that. So I think we have to have far more serious conversation around measurement because we're measuring the wrong things this is we are absolutely somehow, eliminating common sense from the equation. I mean there's a lot. I mean, there's I just think it's fundamentally fascinating. I mean, I don't think agencies are built tool have aligned interest with their clients, which is why you get into weird tactics. I think there's hidden cost and production, which is ludicrous. I mean I don't know. I think the whole thing is that I don't think it's by the way, who am I, I'm one dude? I just think that I just think it's a very interesting ecosystem, like I wouldn't do meeting the first presentation was a by a PR company that claimed that some mention in huff PO fourteen pages into their website, attributes eighty million impressions for the month. I mean like we're just playing weird games. I think we're a lack. We're just eliminating commonsense. And I think that's a huge mistake, I think mentors is a great thing to talk about in terms of that. So white, drift of what your focus on. When you present your clients, I'm sure they still expect you present a report of the traditional metric tonnes. We, we, we, we do twenty four shit stuff because we force us to after this conversation. We say to them, we want to measure sales, we, you know, we want to measure the donations like the thing like TV clients Nielsen ratings because that's your currency that you make money on, like, we want to measure the thing. The problem is ninety nine percent of our clients. Do not put us in a position to measure the thing. Which gets me into, like, why does anybody wanna to measure the thing? Right. Like, like, I think nobody wants to be held accountable. I think one of the great things about corporate America and agency landscape that I didn't understand was I used to be mad at everybody mad that you didn't care enough to do the right thing. Then what I realize I can't be mad at you. The game is structured in a way that people are playing within it because you've mortgages and the family like you're just you're making decisions, not on what you believe you're making decisions on. What is palpable and acceptable with an ecosystem that's created. I get it. I'm more pathetic to it. Here's the punchline, though, if you're doing something to grow within an organization or not rock, the boat and have stability. It doesn't mean what you're doing is right. It just means it's right for you within the context of game that you chose in that human Boehner abilities, enormous amounts of business opportunity. I plan to exploit that. So in terms of that, like you have these conversations with people just don't want to change, right? So how do you make people change? You don't do you don't I could care less up. Anybody changes as a matter of fact, I prefer that nobody changes because when I get to the second part of this, it'll give me more time to do my thing. So I just want to be historically, correct. And I want to inspire some people that just need a little tip to do the right thing. And I want to look back at these videos and be like fuck your smart. And, and I just want to just like just I mean eventually see what's interesting for me is, there's a whole next generation of people and this is going to create business opportunities. I'm right. And everybody knows it because you're right. You know, I'm not a Jesus. I'm just in a situation where I'm allowed to talk about it in a way that's different than a lot of people. Everybody knows you. Live your life, one way and then put you put on your clothes that you wear to work, your jersey and you act totally different because you play with. In the context of what's acceptable. You don't believe in the shit, you're selling. And I don't mean all of you like portion of you. I just I just genuinely believe that, you know why, because at three o'clock in the morning can after a bottle of Rosie you will tell me. So I don't know. Like it's interesting and this happens everywhere, like I yellow kids to not take b c money, because these are giving you advice because they just need one home run. And they're gonna drive all the rest of you into the ground to over extend your business because for their business, they just need one. So, like, I think you have to understand the seed, right like most of the agencies in this room. And in the market are part of holding companies that are publicly traded companies, which means they have to basically play a ninety day. You know, Wall Street dynamics which that's what maps their behavior. There's no HR talk. You know, like, but for me, there's HR talk, I spend all my time on HR comma on the CEO, because I'm building something for the rest of my life, and I mean these people, so I have to care about them, so it has nothing to do with, like anything. Other than if you understand the north star, and you can reverse engineer it that is where all the clue answers are than Devi picture of how Vader media looks. I mean you call you. To see you. What does he Amina bainer? And who do you surround yourself with that, perhaps, sure, as you know, like it's different than the current may be structure of other companies here? No, I think we have a lot of similar structures. I think the only differences that Claude silver, my cheap, heart officers, the number two person in the company, and that my CFO Scott has no say, right? So, like we're not financially driven. Right. We're not finance driven. So that's probably the only subtle difference. We looked like everybody else. I've tried because I had blind at night. He buys, I did a lot of different things. But there's a lot of tried and true in the way you should be structured. I think I think the thing that the one thing that my leads. No is, I don't want nobody's incentivize to grow business. So one thing that's weird about us as a lot of people come from all these great shops, and they think they need to grow the piano, because they'll get a bonus and that's good for them. So I have eliminated that because I want our team to play well in the sandbox with other partners because that's the right thing for the client and the only way you can really do that. If you create the infant. Picture for that. Because if you incentivize them around dollars, we're going to fight for dollars. Right. So the only thing they have to do is historically, correct. Like to me, people going to move brands this, and that, like a lot more people give us business today, by the things they thought we were stupid about three years ago and now they believe in right, people don't forget. So I don't need to win the scope. I need to make sure that everybody understands where we stand on how it plays out and what's in the best interest to sell the product. So those are the things that are different. But otherwise, I don't know. We have a credit department countless strategy sites. Analytics, it's the same shit. Well, if you had to add a new division or expand into certain way, what would you do? Next unlimited resources. What are you doing? Next fully. I think we do that. I'm losing all sorts of money investing in, you know, message Bod infrastructure. We have bainer smart, the smart affiliation stuff like I'm again building it for myself, thus on losing on my PNL every day with departments that don't return because the clients don't want it yet to me. I'm always building for something that's twelve twenty four months ahead of time. I don't think you should build anything for five years out. I think that lacks practicality I think if you see the world in a twelve or eighteen month window, and you can go there that feels real. And that's what I've kind of tried to rinse and repeat so we do a lot of that we invested in vertical video people to three years ago because we saw that playing out and that's worked out for us because the market is moved more in that direction we, we we invested in. Seventy. What I would call new digital paid media people who probably believe more in feed dynamics of social networks than programmatic banner buying or things of that nature. And that's working out for us. So I think you know, I'm not even unlimited budgets. What I think I'm doing now, which is if I believe anything is meaningful to sell something or communicates something, we will invest it immediately. We have we've analysts and strategists who spend time on analyzing musically a year ago. You know. And so that's just kind of how we go also what increase that you guys have offices in multiple places. Do you want to grow your physical presence anytime soon? He so we've been office in New York, LA, San Francisco, Chattanooga Tennessee in London. So I'll speak about Chattanooga Tennessee in London. Chattanooga is one of probably five to seven more offices that I will build in cities, that are not New York, LA, San Francisco, and Boston. There's another part of America. I don't know if you've heard, and there's a lot. Lot of it. And so I wanna have offices there because if I buy a brand that mainly sells in middle America at Dollar General having footprint in these markets for a decade is going to be smart. Same thing with London and Asia and other places. We will expand I'm only I'm very single minded. I'm gonna buy brands that are underpriced because big holding companies are not supporting great brands because they don't have the money for it. They're only supporting top by brands. They're going to sell it to me for a nickel on the dollar. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to refurbish it into the twenty twenty two world for whatever that is. And I'm going to run it through my machine with the people that have been with me for fifteen years because we give shit about them, and then we're going to build the fuck out of it flip it by the New York Jets when Super Bowls. Do you see yourself that it's keeping bainer media like as it is? You know, when you buy the jets Intermedia still going to be around. That's something I didn't see which I hate talking about. I thought I thought I would build like one hundred person shop it'd be great. We'd buy a brand, you know, I take forty people over to it. I would help the other sixty get jobs or put them in my other investments, like really take care of the crew move on my merry way. What ended up happening is look, we've gone from thirty to seven hundred fifty people in four years, five years, like there's going to be a lot more people than I anticipated when the brand comes. So now I've struck. Obstruct in a bunch of books. I've started writing one called the by accident billion dollar company, and it's really the chronicles of building bainer and why did it? And what happened? And why did I, I was able to build a big big, big business really fast because our interests are aligned with our client, like it's like it's just it's always things. It's always the tippy top. Right. Like everything that's broken Intermedia media, my fault. Everything is about the top. So. Now I realize, oh shit. I'm going to have a holding company of brands, but in parallel also going to have banner media. I'm gonna take the top talent each year and graduate them into the brands that I own, but to enter things are going to happen one, I think I'm going to be able to get the best talent in the world into bainer, because if the word on the street is if you go work at bainer, and you crush it that you can then go and work on Hershey's kisses, or what or kids and get a piece of the action and be lots and lots of money that's going to bring unbelievable talent. And to when I go pitch for new business vein media instead of saying, like, here's our sizzle reel or capes. I'm going to be like, hey four and a half years ago, we bought Snickers it was doing two hundred thirty seven million in revenue. Now it's doing eight point seven billion because of what we did. That's our pitch motherfucker. Yeah. He committed someone to work at beta I don't think to me, too. I don't think so. I think like look everybody here knows that, that works in it, like, and they and they respected, and I respect that I'm not mad at a holding company. They're not. You know what are they like it's not nonprofit world. It just you have to be smart about why things do what they do. And I think that I'm excited to create a new model in the Seco system, because one thing I have done is fallen in love with the DNA of the people within it storytellers. These are sales people these, this is cool. This is what I am. I didn't realize it, but this is what I am too. Little bit of a different version of it, but pretty much what I am. And so I think the machines that have been put in place, aren't great for the people, and I think that it's I'm not going to be able to employ everybody, what I'm gonna do is be ridiculously successful and inspire Sally to go and build it, too, and create new alternatives. We have about five minutes left. So I wanted to open up to audience cue in. Yeah. So. It firing any questions. Anyone they went here questions. Awesome. You said you don't incentivize people for new business. How do you go about new business? Do you find that people are coming to you because they know you to you get involved in pitches? How do you go about growing both of those things? And then the other thing that I didn't know because I wasn't from the industry is, when you do really good work. And people believe in you, and they go move to other companies, you get them, right? So a lot of becomes from my personal brand equity like I'm not building the Gary v shit for just my ego. And so we get that. But at this point, we're at such massive scale, you know, whether it's the G work or Pepsi work, or, or the Toyota work or the, you know, we're, we're out, we're doing a lot of business and a lot of people are moving, and we're just winning word of mouth again. I'm telling you, as cool as I am I go to the sales meeting. I'm a great salesman. It's the only thing that matters is the steak, not the sizzle the sizzles the gateway drug to the steak. And, and that's. Why we're growing. What percentage of what my friend? Of incentive compensation. Like, like, if we grow this business. They'll kick us back dollars zero. And by the way, I'd love to do all of it, that way, the problem is these CFO's cure in corporate America think I'm an idiot. Yeah. Like the incentive plans are ludicrous. And by the way, I would take it, but nobody's we're not big enough yet or like real enough yet, for corporate America for the to really let me control everything, not going to be at the mercy of like digitize media plan, I have after run. That's not a dig a digital first thing. That's it's just I need to be if I'm going to be if like I'm like on the on the line. I need to control everything then it's real. Right. So zero so far, though, it's kind of weirdly, what I thought it was going to do you know stinks. But I think I'm gonna play the ultimate version of that when I write a check for eight million dollars. Right to buy pop rockets, like, it's, it's going to it's going to that's the ultimate putting your money where your mouth is. And that's what I came from. That's what I'm actually way more comfortable with all this politicking worship. Hi, I'm behind the pillar step forward. That's awesome house. You. Since you said you want to serve the people in this room. They just heard about a half an hour ago that they're the most depressed people in the agency. I'm sorry. They just heard. They're the most depressed group of people who these people because the agency world because they're strategists. Oh, what do you say to them? I mean, what's, what do you say to help, you know, I probably can't, you know, one thing that I've really enjoyed about me, getting more comfortable, my own skin is I, I like saying, I don't know more than I used to. I'm not sure to fully answer that. I'll tell you. I'm a weird guy that asked that this, how this is going to come off, but I was really against having a strategy department because I was like, why would I hire people to just be account like and just be management? I need people to think what you guys know what I've learned is not everybody can do both. I've come to learn that, you know, I don't I don't know why they're the most depressed from what I've learned. And this is this is great. You might enjoy this because this is really coming from left field. And I don't have a lot of good. Data on this other than my own experiences. I think you guys are being held on a pedestal in most places right? Like, like I when I look at a lot of places that I've, like I'm like, I'm so surprised at like nobody talks until the strategists talks things of that nature. I also think maybe the lovely lead with the camouflage shake your hand, and I was, like, I was like, okay, then maybe she means like to me, it's crazy that the creep, like in a creative shop, the creative is the most powerful in a world where this is all subjective until it hits the market, you know. You know. So I don't know the context of y the market would think strategists are the most depressed is it because strategists are similar to see him os, which is they have say, but not the ultimate say and people fuck up their thoughts in execution. I'm not sure but but here. You know, maybe so, but here's what I'm going to say. But here's but then freedoms are going to talk about how the media plan fucked them up and this like everybody's. Everybody's fucking crying like like every pissing is crying if this was a fucking creative, they would say that, like everybody's crying, I think people need to stop crying that we need to, I think, people, I think people need to start understanding how much of this is subjective, by the way, the agency, big brand world. Everything happens up front, all the fighting, and the jockeying and the work and the debating all the should happen up front guys. We live in two thousand seventeen this whole needs to happen after it hits the market. I mean, this whole thing is so fucked up. It's built for television. It's not nineteen Eighty-six. Sorry, go read what happened in the late fifties and early sixties mid fifties early. Sixties on the transition of radio. To television. That's what we're living through. And then you will start making very different decisions in your career and probably in your strategy meetings. Are you probably have time for one more yet? Let's do it. Hang, gary. How are you? Good. Thank you. Great. So I'm an immigrant, too, and I totally support your ambitions, and I believe you'll by the jets. I love and I'll be the one cheering you on. Thank you. But I'm just curious how you see America has changed for you to execute those ambitions from when you were child till now that's a great question. I think not a whole lot. I mean that I think what imigrants specially Soviet immigrants that fully come from communism understand, is they're starting things that are worse. There's certain things that are better. You know, it's a bald, but, like I always deal in alternatives, like, here's what I know in the last eight years, twelve years, actually less, twelve years. I've had friends both sides of the aisle who told me if this person wins, they're moving to Canada. Right. And Bush gets reelected. I'm moving to Canada. If Obama gets reelected moving to Canada, so far, nobody's fucking moved to Canada. So, you know, I don't I for me ever think for a pure bred entrepreneur to ever think the president of the United States has any impact on her or his ability to execute in this game. They're fucking loser. So I don't I don't think it's changed at I think there's a lot of different dynamics. And I think if you really, really, really want to look at it in a macro level, you know what I'm most thankful for that. Even for all the horse shit, we have around gender and minority or things of that nature. My daughter is in a better position to execute than she would have been if she was my age. It gets better. I don't give a fuck what the world tries to tell you of how bad it is. Because that's what drives Nielsen ratings on mainstream media. It's fucking good. It's good. Like the problem is, we are sold. The one percent that's bad every single day twenty four seven three sixty five. So I think it's great super opportunity. I picked up the perfect not Donna. I'm opportunity point. 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You Can Decide To Have Confidence Ft. Claudia Oshry

Diet Starts Tomorrow

1:17:55 hr | 2 years ago

You Can Decide To Have Confidence Ft. Claudia Oshry

"Hello, welcome to diet starts tomorrow. I'm Sammy. I may lean. And today we're going to be joined by drum roll. I'm not as good as a at the Jomo role right now. Okay. Girl job cloudy, Austria girl with no job is joining us leader and really excited for you guys to hear what she has to say because she's been around on insta- for a really long time, and she's always just sort of seem so so confident despite the and we talk about this leader is like, she's so much younger than us, and we always talk about how this competence kind of comes within with age, and she's so much younger and she just sort of has it. And so we talk about, like, is it really all does it really is it really like that on the inside and so we'll talk about that later. So yeah brings us, but to start, many of you might have known or notice probably through Instagram that last week was world mental Health Day, and there were a lot of statements from celebrities that basically were coming out so to speak, even though many of them have been out before about their own mental health. Struggles and that sort of thing. And going along with this interview with Claudio. We wanted to talk about how people who are famous or very high profile who might seem like they have it all together actually may not really and they might struggle with mental health. And so I saw this Instagram, it was from beyond the interview and they put up a bunch of quotes from different celebrities about basically, they're, they're speaking about their own mental health. So I wanna read them and you can guess you only guess who they are yet. So I'm so you're gonna read me quotes an anonymous to everyone except you and anyone who seen this insta- which is a lot of people, and I'm going to guess from the world of celebrities who saliva could've been. Yes, exactly. Can you give you a hint of what industry they're in? Sure. But I think the point is that I just want to guess games. Yeah. Okay. Until recently I lived in tonight on 'isolation and in constant fear, someone would expose me. It was too heavy burdens to carry, and I simply couldn't do that anymore. I thought and received treatment. I put positive people around me and I got back to doing what I love writing songs and making music. So you know what industry they're okay. So music there writer in music and forever. They lived in isolation. Here's the thing. You would never guess that they lived in isolation based off of like what, who is any about their image? Hardest game I've ever played. Give me one like now. Okay. You'll always be Lord. Yes. Those are good hands, obvious, right? I wasn't rob really riot we. Can you read it again now that we have until recently, I lived in denial and ice elation and constant fear. Someone would expose me. It was too heavy a burden to carry, and I simply couldn't do that anymore. I sought and received treatment. I Papa people around me and I got back to you in one. Okay. So this whole idea of like, so expose me, that's like imposter syndrome. I feel that one hundred per cent of the day. One hundred percent of the day. I'm just like, who the fuck am I? I'm a huge mass. Someone's going to figure it out and and then like an he, you know, just making a fiscally financially irresponsible decisions left and right, and I'm just like, not. I don't write and Maria, Maria, Maria carry. Mariah Carey version, literally Mariah. She doesn't have a lesson maim. I will that. Well she does, but that's. That's why that's why we're playing this game. I know. Okay. Going to do another one. Okay. Here's one. I think a lot of people having Zayed's, especially right now, my anxiety has anxiety. I've always had anxiety. I've never really spoken about it because I never thought everyone had it because I thought everyone had it. But when I got home from tour, it was the most severe. I think it's ever been tour. Okay. So either either musicians also music comedian. She's also Moshi music of someone with a lot of anxiety who just went on tour, lots of feel Sherlock Holmes right now. Is she like she been in the news recently? Yes, Arianna grounded. Oh, really? Oh shit. Yeah, I can only imagine with all this fucking shit going on the fact that they just broke up with MAC Miller. Well, one, this, this, this Instagram went up five days ago. She had not broken up with hadn't broke, but she but MAG. Millard still happens. Oh my God, I can't even. I think she said this before MAC Miller. Like I don't think right. This is just a like an evergreen cope by either saying, I've always had anxiety. I mean, it's an evergreen quote. Yeah, like end. She says, I've never really spoken about it because I thought everyone had it. Interesting. See with like minds idea. Mining's idea. I only started no one has it. I thought, no one had. Right. Interesting. Yeah. I think it would make me want to talk about it more knowing that everybody has it. I'm new that Arianna old. We've talked about this like on slapped and everything. She's, she's Dr she's like a dark soul. Well, I just recorded a bet slapped episode. Oh, so every deep into Arianna 's I wasn't on that legislation. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to check that out to hear more about Arianna guy should because Sammy listens to this other podcast called entity lawyer, glare, and he's like an entertainment lawyer in the business forever, and he likes sort of has these these very insider scoops Ari insider scoops, and Sammy listen to the podcast and you should listen because she, here's the thing. If you want to hear those, you want wanna hear what people the celebrities want you to hear follow people and all that stuff. Yeah. If you if you don't, if you want to hear what they don't want you to hear, listen to this guy or listen to our podcast. Sammy, we'll repeat everything. He says, because you have to pay for, but I. Don't write paper his. I don't repeat it as well as he he does. I don't because I'm sort of just like gramling like that mean from parks and rec, I'm like the guy at the, it'd be like, you don't even understand. They're like, oh, and drugs, and they're all like so pumped up. Yeah, that's me when he speaks really slowly new Arianna has anxiety. Okay. Okay. Give me another one. Okay. A lot of people like to judge you and make fun of you on the internet and make people make you feel crazy whenever you're in in as oppression or having Zayed's or having a panic attack. It's about that and being sad, and having your emotions and not being able to ignore the feelings you're having. I don't think you're gonna guess this person we. What something about why a lot of people like to judge you and make fun of you on the internet and people make you feel crazy whenever you're in a depression or having Zayed, you're having a panic attack. It's about that and being sad, and having your emotions and not being able to ignore the feelings, you're having someone that if it has tacked on the internet, it's a sibling of someone who is more like more famous a sibling, but she's also a woman among the younger set. She's she's a younger. She's the, she's a generation z. yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's coming to me. I don't know fister I'm like, I'm not going to get it. Okay. She's dating wills out. Okay. My my, the other Cyrus Yaohua. It's her she they went together then aren't actually, I don't think so. Oh deed on hot Cheetos, at least he didn't OD on. I don't know things on x. real. I don't know who knows. Okay, let's you one. What's we talk about it? What she does. Everybody makes fun of her on the internet on the introduce the thing. If you're famous person, half of the things that people say about you will be bad. I think that that's just something or maybe not half, but it's just annoying say to you on your instant comments. I think that is just the craziest thing that there's people out there who don't understand that they're comment like five, something negative to say. I think we also talk with us with Claudia later, but if I have something negative to say, I'll DM it to my friend to discuss, but I would never like just the everybody reads their comments. Right? I mean, I think that's why they're doing it. They want you to see your hate. Here's the thing. One who I really, really hate the president. I would not. Comet on his. Right. I don't unders-. I can't empathize or can't put my fucking head in the shoot. What's the phrase? You put your feet shoes the feet in the shoes of someone who somebody who do something like that. And if you had anybody who's listening, does that November judge you like? I don't. I, I don't understand it like everybody reads their comments and there. That's why they're doing it. Yours you because you're coming from the mindset of someone who was like, I don't wanna purposely make someone feel bad. I think that most of the day, I think that most of the negative comments are not. They're not people don't want personal read it, just they think that they don't, and they're just like, want to some put yourself, put yourself in the shoes of a troll. You've not can't. Okay. But right. That was the phrase shoes. Okay, self in the shoes and feet. I don't know any. Okay. If you're, you're you so you can't really see this, but the troll is someone who has they have nothing. They're just they have. This is like their little thrill in the day. This is the thrill. This is the thrill for them. You have a thrill, you're like, oh, I got to like, I don't know, meet echoes liberty or like, okay, but at this restaurant is a huge difference between like reading someone's comment thrill and meeting celeb- for them for them. They're like like a cool emails a throw, right? I guess like sure go, okay for them. This is like a thrill. They need to take their internal angst and they need to externalize it. So that shows up in the comments section of a celebrity where they're like, oh, they've comments, they're not gonna care what I say, but I get to get this aggression out. I still don't understand because can't do they also not have any friends. I don't think it's that they don't. I can't speak to their friend about it. I mean, I'm guess I'm being very naive and a lot of people are alone. It's hard for us to understand what people who are completely different than us. What like is going through their head in terms of like, what is normal behavior for them on the internet. Like to me like it is not inaudible is this also showing also some form of mental illness comment? I Dr. Are licensed there. I am a self licensed therapist. I personally think that something has to be a little off with you. If you are commenting negative things on a stranger who is famous that you don't know or any stranger you can if they're not famous, I would literally never comment on someone's in Ceram unless it was positive and I either like loved them as a celebrity or have like a relationship with a person or Meam. I would just tag tag up front, but that's not. That's not a comment that it's not a person that. Yeah, right. I would literally never leave negative comment on someone's Instagram, even someone I hate that, so I don't really get it. I hate a lot of people. I don't hate anybody. I hate one person. Okay. I don't like I, I can't. I don't know. I can't hate anybody. I don't know. You know what I mean? Like I hate things. Right, right. Or like ideas. Why establishment. I hate. I don't want to wait any people because I don't know any. I don't know anyone. I hate like, no, like you don't grow. I don't know this. Okay. Here's the thing I don't. I hate the president because he is the president, right? If you was the appropriate host, I would be like, okay, I don't care. I'll never thinking about you the current. I hate this person is the president. Yes. You hate if he were doing something else, I don't care, right. It's only the fact that he's the president, right? Cook. It's not like even it's not even a personal on that level. It's like it's political literally flow yet. Okay. Well, okay. Read the next one. Okay. Sorry, my phone, my phone went off. I have to. We were deep in conversation about Noah, Cyrus. Oh my God. Okay. Like name, no girl. Yeah. You know who's pregnant hill, Meghan Markle yet. I thought I said who because it was like, who else? Yeah. Yeah. I know everybody knows that she's pregnant like it's very quick. She gets a lot of hate to even from her own family. Okay. New quote I've been in and out of mental health facilities since I was nine. I tried to draw myself in the pool when I was in fourth or fifth grade, I was trying to get my head stuck in the ladder in the deep end. So I would not be able to get up, but I'm too much of a pussy. My head is too small. Okay. Kind of wish I read that one that was, I think I know who this is because I, when I. Who do you think it is? It's it's his Jarque comedian because he made a joke at the end really good at this a joke at the end. And he someone really dark and the fact that he's on here makes me think that it is Davidson. Yes, really? Yes. I figured because it's like kind of current people. Yeah, it is. That's really fucking crazy Ganz. Sad. I know. I know it really does sound crazy and sad that these two people were together. Well, that's why it was so explosive, right? Like both in a positive way on in like a really bad. I know. Yeah, nothing I'll tell you after. Yeah, I think I think it's like really. Yeah, it's sad. Okay. I'm gonna read one more and this is he's a little bit of a more positive one, and I think this can lead us into our next discussion. It also kind of ties back to last week's episode about lady Gaga. Okay. Reforming Boehner ability as being bad ass and tough and actually super courageous is a great way to rebrand talking about your feelings when we share what's going on with us that actually comes us down. I don't. I have no idea. Okay. I'll give you hit. I personally love this person and she's really funny comedian does. Okay. Give me one. Does she have any relation to us? Yes. But he coming, yes. She wrote a quote for our buck. When's happy? Everybody should preorder to put in pre orders and mental health in the same sentence. Yeah, interesting. So her book it's called, I'm fine. Another lies. She talks a lot about this and she like really like lays everything bear about like all the struggles. She has things -iety and self image and body image and all this stuff. She times we met her that one time. She talked about it a lot of it. This is why I like her so much because she sort of gets on that. Like doctor pharmacist, payments, I love me or psychiatrist page, which I really connect to like, that's the kind of shop. I love Shaq. And she. So she writes a lot about it and her whole kind of thing is like just talking about your feelings, getting them out there rather than hiding them and pretending like your perfect and that everything is perfect when it's not. Yeah, I think is really important. And I think that this is one of the biggest things that I guess we're trying to convey with this episode is that like all these liberties that you think are perfect and they're so confident they have it all by or to be like that you aspire to be. They go into their shame and anxiety and depression spirals just like you. Do. I think about this a lot about like these celebs who are these names and who you people idolize and and you see them like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm standing next to blank. I would only happen. Okay. Okay enough. They're they're human. They're just the same as you and they are. She also just whisper Debbie. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the celebrity. She'd be like, oh my God. Okay. Well, truth. Ruth b. is like receive Ruthie bislama as really just the best. Right? Because she's not a celebrity for celebrity sake. She's an accomplished person, but celebs are -ccomplish d- right by them. Right. Okay. It's a little different, huge caveats. But I think I think it's just that's how I put shit in perspective is that like they're literally just a person and they don't even. They can't even sort of unless you're like Khan, yea or the, but that's a whole 'nother level. If unless you're like that, they don't even process their own success as as the same way as you do you process their success. You know what I mean? Yes. They sit there and like cooler just released an album that's work like still like fucking face tuning my thighs. You know, like, you know what I mean? It's, I mean, you'd think if peon say or anybody, Madonna, anybody like that, they're still going through like deep shit, right. Well, I mean. We just that's the thing is like we think, oh, beyond say concert, that's a fun event for beyond say that is her job. It's her livelihood. It's her reputation on the line every single show if she doesn't perform or she doesn't show up or she is tired, that is that all chips away at the of beyond say. But speaking of that, I've seen this on Instagram or I've seen, I heard somebody make a joke about it at the how bucking annoying it is that Jay z and beyond go on tour together. Yeah, you know and he can stays there there well beyond say, does like seventy five outfit changes flips in her heels like back and forth, and sings has an amazing. She's not bragging. She's just singing, beautiful notes and and they're the same, right? I'm not going to make about same, but you know what I mean? I'm not gonna make us about the difference between men and women. I'm not. I'm thinking talking about it shows that I sure the pure the, the amount, the difference in the type of like that, like the. Impact that it can have on the on the two of them because of the pressure that ambience a verse Jasey the pressure of performing. Yeah, it's several real thing. Yeah. As he listened to. I had a good voice. I would be more like Adel just like standing there. Yeah, you guys can fucking dance behind me. I'm just going to be thinking. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I would wanna be. I don't know. I kind of like dancing, not that great at it like Pauline. I also just want to say that I know that we're laughing and joking, and I've made a few jokes about the what we're talking about is very serious. And I just I just feel like. I know when he coming says, like in order for you for for us to talk about serious things, we sort of have to bring the light to them. We have to be able to talk about. I can't talk about Sears things of that joking because my defense mechanism. So I just want to tell everyone that I'm fully aware of that. Oh yeah. When I go to therapy and I'll like say something that is teams. Really traumatic, and I'll make like a joke about it and the fact that she doesn't receive it might therapist doesn't receive it by laughing all. So I'm like, I'm deeply wounded shale just like she'll she'll, she'll she'll say something like that fun. It'd be like be like, what's funny about that. I find that to be really sad, and I'm just like about pitch. Twenty just lap right? Like right, but but I get it because because really the laughing is the way that I cope with things that are deeply terrible. That's why we're here, right? That is why we're here and not letting I'm healthy person. That's right. So she's like like, but it it has changed sort of like the way I'll look at things that are are problematic because usually I used to be there's only one way to deal with them Davidson, like even David has quote that we just read made a Joe serving, quote joke about the fact that he tried to drown himself when he was nine, and then turn that in the next second into a joke like that is really, really. I mean, obviously disturbed, right? It's really busy serving. Yeah, but I think that the point we're trying to make to the listener who is not, you know, a celebrity may you are Hello? Foodie. Yeah, you were just a person like all of us, right? But what I'm saying is like we often think like we get emails from people and they're like, why am I so fucked up? Why can't I lose weight? I feel so bad about my body. I feel so not confident. I feel like I will never get someone to date me like this sort of thing. These are the kind of things that people say to us and they are sort of looking for an outlet for their insecurities and they're wondering like, why am I so insecure? Like? Why can't I just like get over it or get over whatever struggle I'm having? And I think they, I think there's often this feeling I get this a lot to that. Like if only I were like this, then everything would be okay if only I could fix this problem, then everything would be okay if only this person, right. If only my life looks like that, then it would be fine. But I think that like what the point we're trying to demonstrate by like reading these quotes in having these conversations about celebrities is that there is no, if only that celebrity that you think looks perfect and puts up the perfect Instagram, and has this many follow. Hours and they make so much money going on tour or whatever it is you think, oh, they're, they have no problems they have. They don't. They don't have a need to be not confident point out. There's this account that you told me about called celeb- face that I've, oh yeah, and they literally show. I mean, they call out not that I would ever want. Anybody did this to me, but no one takes actual photos of me that somebody can compare my face tune, but they compare like a a or Getty image of like models to what they post and the models who are sized negative, double zero are face tuning. They show the face tuning on red carpets on literally runways. They're decreasing the size of their stomachs. They're doing exactly the same. All of us are and it. And you've pointed out to me that you're like, I thought it looked better before because in the before photo sometimes it does look better before because it's actually what you look like. And these are typically already very thin people like there was one of Kim Kardashian where I was just like. That stomach. It doesn't even look good because it doesn't look like a real stomach. They also believed person. 'cause already, so thin based dudes are baby sodas, skim Zoll, Ceac. I mean, we Kim's old Ceac face tuned. Her kids knows and but made the but bigger shot. Yes, we sort of fucking on her baby. Oh, my God, right. I'm just hope is your kid going to have? I mean, I mean, not that I'm laughing. But not putting like a Snapchat filter. Instagram filter is much healthier on a baby, like the baby's loved the filters. Yeah, the dog wants funny, but what about the one that just makes you look smooth and beautiful the baby at? Here's the thing. It's more dangerous for baby than it is for you or me because they one, they're seeing it to this is the most impressionable time in their lives. So this one image of themselves in the selfie is a larger proportion of all the images they've ever seen of themselves compared to us. We've seen thousands and thousands of pictures of ourselves at this point because we're older. So one picture in a filter is nice going to have as much of an impact as it will to two year old who's who's seen themselves maybe only hundreds of times in a camera. So when they see that altered image, it's m- has a much bigger craze proportional back. I don't think a lot of people do that. I think I do you think a lot of people face you in their kids. Well, okay. Face tune and then post publicly? I don't know. I don't think regular people do that, but I think everyone is showing their kids. So. No, but I'm saying showing their kids filters. The filters, I think are more unhealthy even than like the face tune, which may be the baby is even conscious of and it's crazy because there hasn't been enough time with this data to to show for it or like sir, like research while I'm sure even if they're just gonna take Sammy's, low self licensed therapist. Here's even if there were legitimate research, big social media would pay big, social would pay for. It's not be as bad as you can't really know. Right, big social. Yeah. So big media. What's our point? Our point is, is that life is crazy. The world is fucked up and we're mad about it, but we're here to talk about it because again, it normalizes things at it makes I hope it puts things into perspective for you not to instead of wanting to be like, you know how say. Now we're talking about previously who's our body goals? Well, I'm sort of removing that from a conversation because my body goals are going to be just my own goals for myself. I know I'm full of shit when I say this, but I'm gonna try that. And I think that's, that's, I think the takeaway is that, like, let's remove idolizing whoever. It's one thing to have inspiration write letters RV g. Yeah, you and our BG is another thing to to be hate yourself because you're not like that person because that person is usually putting out images of their best angles or putting out news of their best moments or and they actually of when they have worst moments or even if they're not doing that. Someone like Kate Middleton, who was my person who I said, body goals, Kate Middleton, literally has a team of people ensuring that she looks the way she looks. And because. She's always seeing photos of herself. That's it's constant. You're constantly getting feedback like you've obviously we both experiences, you see a photograph and you're like, oh, shit. Diet starts tomorrow. I can't look like this anymore. Right? That has happened. Countless times me, Kate Middleton sees vote as a result every single day. So it's like she doesn't go a month where she's like, oh, when did that happen? Yeah, yeah, I do want to play on little anecdote a while ago, like a couple of years. Maybe not that long. I realized someone just sort of all of your. But that like celebrities, even the skinniest of celebrities wear spanks. Well, thank you for sorry. Sorry, I thought you were getting. So that is I'm telling you that's my revelation. It was like this sort of life changing thing that before I would like I have to wear spanks because nothing is like, is this a couple years ago this? I mean, we just started this podcast this year. You know it was a couple years ago and it was like one of those things that like way. So there's a lot of people who don't like even the most perfect of people that I think are perfect actually have to work to loot look like that. Like they wear spanks and they and they, you know what I mean? Well, I think the reason I think the reason thin people wear spanks is not things out a smooth. Right? But I'm just saying even for me to smooth, like it's just interesting. I didn't. It didn't didn't cross my mind. Right. I didn't. It's not a thought that I was like, oh, shameful. Like go to the big people section of Bloomingdale's and get spanks. It's like, well, I think that honestly, I don't know it a little bit less stigmatized. I think spanks are Don. At all? I love spanks. It is less stigmatizing race at all? No, it's not signifies at all. I'm saying what? What. Not not. I don't think that uses a be that everyone worse banks. I it back in the day. They weren't even call its banks that were called like control top pantyhose. Okay. Got one bought mitzvah your I was wearing them. Honestly, I've always worn control Tom, but I love that. Yeah, I just thought he was. I just remember thinking that in having it some obviously. I remember it was changing of my mind, right anyway. 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I in the beginning when we started this, I felt like I was shamed for being on a diet like I was shaming myself, but that's the thing that and now I'm on a diet, I refuse to give in to the war on diets. Even though I don't even want to go on one, I just want to give other people the opportunity to go on that. Also, the word does not have to mean diet like you don't have to be on Kito or of south gene like your diet, like right dogs on a diet of corn. I, I hope hopefully a good one. I protein. Is literally he can only have like extreme protein. Same protein. Yeah, not for me CO. My dog is like such a good reg man like so much better than me his great healthcare fed everyday. Like I'm a so poor compared to him. I also covers everything. No, my insurance in me other than to other than ten percent of a cost and like a wellness visit. What I say mature and says you, it's like really saved me. I would only pinch high deductible only reached it, I guess, because he always has a right we. So speaking of Kito I've saw on Benz or is he on Kito or he like experience. Unlike is on Kito like, but not as like a couple of months because on it as a lifestyle and to him, he's like, he has to go off of it because like you can't live like old -ly like never indulging. But I feel like recently he's been taking the indulging thing more seriously than he's taking the key thing. And now he just does it for his Instagram stories and I call him out. I'm like, you're not even on. I saw that and he just lies to everyone. So I just feel like it's my duty to now that he's like half Kito. But when he does it, he goes so seriously for like two weeks and loses ten pounds. It's so annoying, the man, it's so not fair. Like men had a better they do. It's everything. Yeah, but no, the thing with Kita. I also experienced a time where I was like Yama and Kito, but then I started indulging in that keep indulging and then it's like, fuck. And you eventually are like on a full fat diet such it's such bullshit, but it's like Jackie does Atkins, which is the same. I think is a lot of meat and bread, which sounds terrible, but and they both like they get when you're when you don't eat carbs, your body goes into Kito this. Yeah, and you have bad breath and like Ben gets the worst peo- and I'm like, I could always tell them being. Good on his dykes like he'll get home and he'll smells so bad, and he's like Froude of it. Like giant shower. He's like, no, I'm proud of minke toes. I worked hard for this. Keno go exactly the Kito breath is real. It's so I never noticed bad breath when it comes to because I also cut out carbs on me and Russi always tells me when I I'm the first person to tell you you get that breath. Yeah, several hours. So. So that explains some PG tonight ever complained about? Never not eating. Well, thanks again for coming. I I wanted to talk about this because I when I came on the toes, I was talking to Jackie about how your whole family you have three other sisters, right? We y'all, you all went to fat camp? Yes. We're, she, you guys call it. I'm not. It's like a party trick. Nobody. I mean it's supposed to be called weight loss Cam. Okay. But we went, I cannot die. No, not tight camp. It was just more like a lifestyle change down. That totally when we, we all went to camp, like for Sal. Belgian basically rehab. I've pretty much. Now, like I didn't appreciate as a kid like now. I think it'd be awesome like two months just to like have a food diet made for man, just like there's like aerobics in the morning. They can do it every one, but I didn't appreciate it back then because when I went so I was like, I don't know, twelve and I was so skinny when I was a kid like they worried about me like I used to eat whatever I wanted such a fast metabolism, and then it just caught up caught up with me. But so we were all in summer camp and a my oldest sister gained a lot of weight one summer and she like never got off and she was just like really unhappy. So she wanted to go to a fat camp, but she didn't wanna go alone. So we all went with her, like as a support system, and I just went like to me was regular camp because I wasn't on the program because I didn't need to be. So I was just chilling and then like I loved it and we went back for so many summers and eventually got so bad and had to actually be unfurled Graham, which is this I, and I'm convinced that like the fat camp made me because as a kid, like I never thought about food is anything other than like fuel and meals and just like fun. Yeah, right. And then I was in this environment that was like, so obsessed with food and exercise. And I just started thinking about it. More. And then I really feel like it like fucked me up. And then I was just like, oh food. And then I saw food is like this amazing thing. Whereas before it was just like, enter your normal. Yeah, right interested at. Okay. We've talked about this on the pockets of diets are actually the reason that you need until you going on diets. And this is, I guess, why people don't attack the word, no acted totally, but they're, you know, those peed like those friends, you have that like don't even think about food or exercise at all. It's like they're just dating so jealous right there and they don't look like Victoria's Secret models, but they are in great shape and like they don't get out of breath when they go up the stairs. Like what's that like, and it's I'm like jealous of them. Like, I don't think about it like I do the right. It's not this forbidden thing that you need to like right out about hide in your bedroom or steal candy from the batches often purse. I completely like snuck. Yeah, you never know when you just need to make sure everyone's like, but that is why what? Why embarrassed to take candy in front of like everyone know, it's embarrassing. If you look like you're trying to hide it, but if you're like open with it, like when I walked in, I'm gonna take candy. Right? And nobody thought I was being. Shady because like because then that's where you're making it weird exactly. Can't make it like last week. We had like some leftover cake. I was like, I really just wanted it was like ten AM way too early by the freezer cake. No, it wasn't a freezer. It was still fresh from it. It was so good. I was like one of those, like I missed with a good like yellowcake broth thing. That's the cheaper, the better. I know it will love fun. I wasn't. This was like a bakery. Yeah somewhere, but it was very good. And I was like, I saw I was like hunching over it like trying. Hunchback. Join more attention to yourself that way open just like took a slice with a plate and took it back to your desk, like what part of the problem? I like that that's what people do, but it was like ten AM and I was like, are people going to think of the biggest freak ever right cake and his link. This is when I want it. I don't want it later. Everyone else wanted cake too, but they just didn't wanna be the first one. So you're setting you're the boss, you set the precedent, right? Everyone could. Let them be kids exact cake in the morning. Yeah. So tell us more about weight loss camp. So it was weird because like I only really was on the program when I was like sixteen, because that's when I started to gain weight. So before it's really very similar to regular camp like you wake up at the same time. The only difference is that your first activity is some sort of like exercise. So they did like aerobics with fund music. They did for the people who were really intellects boot camp. I never did that, but for the most part, it's just the same thing as regular camp except your activities or more tailored to volleyball like everyone a supply like you can't just sit and like lay on the beach and get a tan like you have to actually play and the meals are just all portioned out for you. So it looks really like a regular camp, but nobody knows that they're starting. You write that pretty much. Sounds like my Cam, I accept the snacks like the fudgesicle were blue bunny and they had laxatives in them a whole anywhere in the Lizzy more than one and you only got one. So it was fine. But because I wasn't on the program, I could eat as much as I want. So fudgesicle day was like the best day ever and I too, and that was the first time ever that I started. I'm one hundred times laxative. It would look a lot of blue bunny products have lack citizen, and that's how they're they're like the healthy option because you really, really can't have more than one. So if you look at the back, it says, may contain laxatives, do not consume more than one or two. And I didn't care. And I was like, whatever. I thought it was like above it, you know? And it was color war when I won Colorado like so excited and literature art Ed. That's amazing. I actually have this memory of when I went to camp and like I never went to the pool. I told all of my friends that I was to like, I don't like to swim. What kid doesn't like to swim instead? I chose to play tennis. No, what I really didn't want to wear bathing suit in front of all my friends. Looking back. Like you said, I was like the skinniest person ever my God. That's the worst the way. So fucking live on photos where you felt like a beast, and I would do anything to look like photo right now, you know. And that's just like how sick my mind is. You know, I think part of it. Is that like we've also talked about Perry? Yes, twin. The tweak. And that's just not my jeans, but like I was still fairly normal and I think that I even fluctuated as a child, yes, kind of crazy. Am I think about it? But that summer I all I did was eight salads. I played tennis instead of going to the pool and had one one hundred thousand grand one hundred grand bar like for canteen my night, and I got so skinny at the end of the summer. That's when like hooked up all the. I four years of camp. I lost weight every summer because first of all, you weren't allowed to like have candy, right? But not because of wait for brats. 'cause yeah, that and they were also just like you have to do with the camp, right? Be part of the Camden. Can't just like get whatever you want is Barry. Yeah, but I lost weight like my first four summer. Wow, I, I was never one of the people who lost weight. Well, then like after that, I was so used to like losing way those after after I would eat everything and then summer after that, I started game. And then also your body like catches up with you. Like when you're a kid, you can eat whatever you want it. It doesn't work the same way like your body's like, doesn't care almost. You're like eating candy when like seventy move around more naturally. Like I wanted to move around more now. I'm like, how long can I sit for before? It becomes right. Canvas. Specially like now is like an adult every time. I think back on my memories like when I'm older, I think about like I have to go to go to basketball, like that's a far wall, right? But as a kid and my go. Basketball, let's go. And I didn't even think about the distance Nalic distances my life like I had to get out two blocks from my cab because there's construction going on right here. And I was really upset and I was like, are you fucking kidding me to avenues that's far? Yeah, evidently four regular block. It's like five minutes. Yeah. No, it was. It was laid looking. I agree with you. It's like you have to go all the way to arts and crafts and like that is like ten miles away, right? But when your kid you don't think of it like that you'll have arts and crafts. Macaroni. All the activties is fun. Like we had like trapeze the camps. I went to moved a lot and that's fun. But magin how much I can't do trapeze now. No, actually, I did. You trapeze. That thing Carrie Bradshaw did in that that so they have it. And I kept saying I wanted to do it, but never actually. I'm Ben reserved it for my birthday and like Germany to Staten Island. He was surprised. I'm like, are you fucking kidding? And we got there late. So half the class at a ready, learn the technique. So by the time we got there, they were on their third or fourth like jump and they were doing lips and tricks and okay, so I went up there and they make they make you say, stupid words because you can't say go, and you can't say no, because it's too similar. So if you want them to release you, you say, clown or rodeo, or some shit. And I obviously forgot every word. They tell me because I was so scared and that you want to go. And I'm like, go, and they're like, no. It was so infuriating and I did it and it's the most pain, my entire body weight is resting on my shoulders and I wait a lot and I'm like, I'm going on my shoulders cannot handle this. It was so painful. Ben went up and got back down. He went down the ladder. He did not do it. It was so scary, do not do it. Did you make the transfer? Of course not just like just Wonga bunch. And then I just remember being a ninja in Yam. Right? I was so the bars in gymnastics even think about, like monkey bars. I cannot God. But I used to swing on that shit like it was nobody's business? Yeah, I used to get on top of the monkey bars and like hang out like that was like the how excited like just hanging out on on the top of the thing. You really worth so much more activist children. I wonder if kids now are like that or if they just they're on their phone, they're not as bad as us like when we when now, but I feel like they're definitely more active than me, which isn't saying natural, probably like less active than when we were kids. Yes, of course. That's so sad. I know it's a tell everyone. How did you become the girl with no job. And yeah, so we're trajectory from like where I am now to like when I started, because when I started didn't know what was doing and I feel like maybe two years ago, I thought I'd like hit the thing that I was going to do, but because like Digital's always changing, you gotta stay ahead and you'd want to be like instrument. There's monster, even though that's basically what I am. I'm fine with that because I started a blogger on like legit tumbler WordPress. And I just like started this blog called girl with a job where it was like just basically a diary about. Working as an intern in New York, and it was so treacherous. And I just like talk shit about everyone, but nobody really read it and it wasn't very popular. It was just like more like self expression for me, right. Live journal is journal, but then if we're all that other people could see it and I was like, saying, really mean things about these people that I absolutely hated. So I had to delete it because like I was turned chip, I worked at necessary clothing in the for their website like they, I was an intern when I was in NYU and I use get free close like it was the best, but they didn't pay. And yeah, a little cheap. Good. Expires, there's an expiration date, but so I was working there for like six months and then I deleted the bog. It's like it wasn't really that funny and like I like doing it and nobody read it, but then I got fire. So I- redid it. I thought I was like president, and I was like, yes, I'm going to tell me log again and I changed it to grow with no job just because like I had had a job and then I got fired. So like it was just trying to be every literal. Yeah. And I think that helped like people want to read it because it's much more of an interesting name. And then I made like an Instagram. I made a Twitter and Facebook just like drive traffic to this bog, but kind of like fell into Instagram instead and was doing like fulltime Instagram influencing for like two years. Influence fulltime job. What were you doing in, you know, just like when we went to you were there when we went to New Orleans and e just like doing random shit for brands and taking trips and taking pictures mostly working from home out of my bedroom a lot, and I really did enjoy it and then I started to do and be of those days. Yeah, those those like when I think and I was like board back, then I used to be more to do, and I'm like, no, that you were making so much money and you didn't even have to do anything like I live for those days and to now, I've just kind of evolved into that like doing the morning toast and now I'm on the road doing live, show tickets, velcro, we'll know dot com. What are you doing? A live show stand up yet. It's like a volved because I always wanted to do stand up like the idea of like being on stage and people not laughing, like makes me want to die in and was enough for me to never do it, and I did it. And then I did it once I three shows at Caroline's and like I did the first show and I was like hooked on the attention and it was a ninety minute show, but I couldn't do ninety minutes of straight talking. That's like so hard. So I prepared like thirty minutes. And then I did like an interview with Ben and I played a game and it was like cute and funny. And then I've just I've since then I've done like thirty or forty shows and like it's evolved into a ninety minutes on him to go on for two hours of just straight stand up. There's just talking just talk right jokes. Yeah. Well, I try. It's hard because like the reason why I never wanted really wanted to do stand up. It's because like I'm just like funny off the cuff. Like I'm not going to write jokes. I don't Netflix like I don't even know how to write a jokes like Jews a pen. You know what I mean? And that whole concept is so weird of being like artificial like, right, right. Acting out your joke, right? It's weird about stand ups, like, right, like you're like working out your set like, yeah, and it's it's jokes. They've told before which I find to be so awkward, but it's something I've had to get comfortable with. So I would say like fifty percent of my show is already written, but then the other half, I just like do off the cuff and based on like where I am like I like to make jokes about, like if I'm in the mid west or some shit, you know, you get nervous that you're going to be like off one day. Okay. I I don't think there will ever come a time where I don't get nervous because it's the scariest thing ever, but I'm really lucky that the people who buy tickets to my show are people who like phone it, Instagram, and watch the show set like they like me already and I don't have to prove myself. Do you know what I mean? You're not on an open night night, right? Which is by the way, like I will never do and I would rather die. It's all that, right? So I'm totally cheating the system, but I'm so grateful because I couldn't. I couldn't do it like, I'm not. I couldn't just go to a comedy club and like pick up a Mike and talked to random strangers. Right? But so do you, I can picture you doing a one woman show right and like narrating I just sing a little bit because I like to say and I also have like the voice of an angel, so it's clear. It's only appropriate, but so. So how did you get over like the nerves? Like? How do you put yourself out there? Because we always talk about this on this podcast. How like the confidence thing comes with either like getting older, you're younger than us. How'd you guys? Okay, right. Thirteen hundred birthday March fourteen. Thirtieth birthday running. Think about it. Yeah. Thirties I have, but at least he was accomplished as fuck like and thirty thirty because like you're not twenty anymore. But it's also really sad when you don't have a great job and you hit your life, but you both like are very successful business entrepreneurs and you find that you're saying that stressed me out though is like, I, I don't think it's like after washing a star is born. Like tonight don't won't talk about, okay, you're going to find out tickets ready. You'll love it. But to her, she's thirty two God. Yeah. Cardi b. twenty four what she feels like a hundred. Right? We thought this was like Cardi b. and someone the same age, but at Cardi b. oriented on it and cloudy ashtray. Like ages Arianna. Yeah, but definitely not Carl's like twenty nine. She feels the ones like seventy five one hundred. Cardi's ache. It's weird because he's not mature mature, but no, she's just, I don't know what it is. She's just feels more like experience. I've gone through some shit and she's taller and has a child. Rilot looked sixteen because she's like weighs one hundred pounds in his four feet, and she puts her hair in a ponytail. Everyday, of course, she looks like a child island has a tile. I know how many one she wants to. Okay, let's relax. I know it's so crazy and she lives board right when you're that rich and famous like those things don't even impress you anymore. Literally, the only thing that can oppress he was like a human being crawling out of your vagina, right? He's got to keep doing it to entertain. Ted kids because the only thing that would like Hewitt for giving her joy. Right. Well, her mom has a lot of kids, so it's not like it runs in the family and they all like want to have a lot of kids. They're, they're, they're getting there. I think they're all going to be single soon. Totally. All of them. I read on that like blind item thing yet. Khloe broke up with tristen e. news on their instrument. They're taking a break, but they do this like two years ago. Yeah. How did I miss this? And then I read the blind item that like kylian what's his name? Travis are no longer. He's just the dad, just the dad, and I'm talking to divorce lawyer saying, oh yeah, anti lawyer and legit. Yes, right. You read it, of course, a louisan reading it since high school, and she used to try and make us real and Mike bitchy lying. I was so naive back then like I didn't know that Selena Gomez was a drug addict you now and now I do. I'm here you've got wait. So hurry have wasn't because she was just. It was issued having all kind of addiction also used to read it when he was crazy crazy, right. Yeah. But then I stopped for like a few years. I think he shot that site down like who is he? I don't know. Just this guy in his bio, it says, I'm a three hundred pounds entertainment lawyer. I have the campaign. Have pain, you beat him? No. Well, he keeps telling me that if I ever come to LA he will let me have drinks with him. So I will go, but I have. I'm actually I'm willing to to tell him, okay, I'll go. But we spoke to him on the phone twice for the podcast and he has a hot voice who's definitely not three hundred pounds. Right. I think that that is like a myth yet. He's just trying to miss peopling Robert Downey, junior. Did you ever read that like weird website, dark web site that said about all the crazy shit that happens in this days run? Yeah, that run by now. That's Downey junior. No, that's that's NT. And Robert Downey junior is one of his tipsters. So we'll go to like the Oscars and stuff and like c-. Crazy shit. And he doesn't care anymore. And he'll literally telling you about, well, how does he get paid? You know, you know, he just wants to start calls. He gets honestly. He's like made like I could pay it in just like seeing other people fight. But he brought up like crazy shit about sexual assault like member. Like when I don't know, you want it to me. Know I did send it to you. Well, I don't think it's. I think I was talking about this. I don't know, but I would like to trace back my past. You like, how overcome. Because we were saying you're younger than us. Oh, I remember that. Right. How, yeah. How does how do you get over like trolls? And he'd right and just ours, just like fucked up. Well, I'm never going to be over it. I feel like it's just like a part of life and that's fine. And I go back and forth. Like I'm always like half the time on like alum above it. Like, did you want me to respond? And I'm like really mature about it. And then sometimes if I'm having a bad day or I'm just like in the fuck in mood to fight with someone like I will respond and like I'll deliver like a great comeback, but nine times out of ten, I regret responding to them. So like I learned my lesson and maybe I'll get to a point where I don't respond to them, but for now it's like I need to look. What would someone say that you would that you would elicit a response from you? Look, some, you ignore, obviously it's it's the one, the most recent one that elicited a response to me is this girl in an I like to see it's always instrument DMZ. I'd like to see what they message me before. Like they always been hater or just like randomly decide to be like a seaward. Right? And this girl I was wearing a shirt a red shirt because I was in Alabama for show, and she was like, bread is not your color. And like all of her other messages will look in love your shoes. Where'd you get them from them? Like excuse me, right. And I was just I was early in the airport, and I was like, this fucking bitch needs to be put in our place. So I responded and I was like, she goes read is under color, and I'm like, and green isn't yours. You NBS bitch, and it was like, I and it was. I thought it was like a sick burn. And then I was just like, why am I responding to lose respond to any of my DM's like the nice ones? Why am I gonna respond to like this wench from wherever he's hiding behind her phone. You're so brave. I literally what I've done before is someone wrote me something nasty and literally give them my phone number and I'm like, FaceTime may say this to my fucking face. You're so brave behind your keyboard up on, come to your house. Give me your address. I'll get plane as people think they're so brave. Nobody would say half the shit it to be in person. It's all these weird because I would like never respond to someone public. Oh my God, like for their for their appearance. Right. And then I say to the person, like I understand the deeming your friend. Yeah, cat about, but that's the best when someone sends. Be something that actually meant to send him there while she's so ugly on. I'm sorry, I did it and I'm like, it's fine. That's think is somebody because that would totally happen to me. But like I'm like a fan of everything like TV, music, pop culture. Like when I go to Twitter at, I go to Instagram comment on it. It's always a fan way. I'm like obsessed with everything that's most of the time positive. I can't imagine being the type of person who like is obsessed with pop culture and loves influencers and like goes on their Twitter or on their scrimped, like, say something negative about it either. I hate something I want to get it out of my face. Right. I'm really wanna just talk to someone else about it, but I would never like go after afternoon who could because like also just like, who do you think you are? Right. Listen. Right, right. Okay. So so do you ever have moments where you're neither like onto cool for it or and you're also not like I wanna fight this person, but you're just like that you actually just feel badly about yourself, maybe. Oh my God, of course. And honestly, like a lot of it. This is what I always say. Like sometimes people bring up like very valid points and you know what? I'm not gonna with you, and I really feel like there's a certain amount of people who like fucking hate me and in their hearts. They think they're doing the right thing in hating me like they think that I'm like this terrible person. And anytime I wanna podcast or do you like I'm wearing a mask and then again home and I take off my mask and I worship like Eden and I'm really and they don't. I don't think they think they're doing the right thing in hating me. And that's why like literally, I would love to invite my biggest hater over for dinner to let her know like my house is cool. Like I'm not a member of the Ku Klux Klan, like they really that I'm like this evil person, and they think they're doing the right thing in hating me. So like you know, good for you, like you think you're doing the right thing, but like come over like, I'm cool. I could chill. Let's hang, you know. So I don't necessarily disagree with them like they've, they think they're doing the right thing and good for them, but like you're wrong. But then how do you because you come off as like very, very confident like you don't really give shit about what anyone thinks. Okay, that's what I'm saying. True. Yeah, right. But then. But you put yourself out there right out. Shame will. Yeah. I mean, again blatantly yes. So people it'll be. I think it's really hard to even put a camera to my race. I don't know. I never even do that. Well, I don't think that it's like without shame because I don't think that's something you can fake. So the fact Ray we're perceived, I don't. And I'm not saying that you should be shaved this perceive. Yeah, no. And I get that all the time and I never knew what the answer was because I feel like I've always just been like really comfortable in who I am, but then someone said something to be get. But then someone said something to me that reminded me of a moment when I was a kid where I was like, I'm gonna pretend to be really confident and like maybe it'll affect other people. And then I remembered I've literally been pretending to love who I am since the fourth grade. And then at some point you start to believe it fourth grade, some good advice. So I don't remember a point in ever just like stopped pretending and just like actually being competent. Right? Because being like people with confidence, like I'm so envious of and I was like, I want to be that but have because I don't. I'm not actually confident, and I literally used to pretend I'm like, I'm the shit and it'll be like s- quietly insecure. And then I think maybe somewhere in like high school, I like actually. Became really confident. I'm like, I don't even care. I am great. I should listen to. I sell any because I never even thought about confident as a kid. I never even just decided like that's something that I can have. You know, I actually think I was more confident as a kid. Well, yes, you're self aware. I like I like lost it. And like now I'm trying to personally get it back. Right because I, I don't know. Like at what point? What a way like schools tough, like no, in high school, I think I was like in some ways, more competent, maybe in college it became like became a little bit more like surface level. Insecure on like your experience, like if you were in a sorority, like I can't imagine being confident like those are mean and everyone skinnier than the other one in everyone's hairs better. And like I went to NYU I didn't have like a college like life. So I was really like into doing my own thing, but I can imagine being a part of like a sorority life is like knock great for your self esteem. Well, we were like the mean people. Are all at MIT bully. That is because I think I felt like not confident, right, and how it was a project. It's like you've are shed, earn allies. It that's like to publicly apologize because you know who you are. Say, I mean, even now, though I can't bring myself to just even turn the camera to my face, speak to the phone because I'm dressed like who wants to see what I have to say. Yeah, I guess like positive reinforcement when people do it. Yeah. I, for me at least I think like just getting positive feedback from like young girls. Oh, and then I'm like, that makes me feel so much better about it. And I'm like, okay, let's keep. Let's say even uglier angle, you know. 'cause like if people are reacting positively to it, like everything I do for the audience of everyone likes something, everyone hates it. I'll never do it again. So when I get positive feedback, like really reinforces whatever it is that I'm doing. So people are like, and I think they mean they mean it in a nice by comes off and then a little mean they're like, I love how ugly luck. And I'm like, thinking like, I know what you mean like, so you'll put yourself out there without looking. Perfect, right. And like most of the time, it's so so scary look. What's something that you hate doing that they love that you do like the baptism QNA that I love. I love it. It's so much work. And for me, like bath time has always been like, I'm. Always taking baths and like I just love taking, doesn't get him with my phone and my Alexa playing like it's just the greatest. And now it's a job like now I dread one take some non. Yes, I can't. But like every time I'm in the bath, I feel like I should be doing about ten q and because I don't do it nearly as frequently as I shouldn't people love it, and it is really fun. And now the Instagram questions, they can makes it a lot easier. But for the most part, just like try not to show my nipple trying to like also like, look, you have a skinny neck, but then also like look like I'm in the bath like it's just a lot of a lot of things going on, get someone to sponsor that I know of. I need dove in their agenda stuff, dove. I'll work on it listening, plasma Proctor and gamble. I take what I can get you to leave her. Yeah, whatever the entire company Johnson. Turning the camera yourself. Okay, I understand that, but I will turn the camera on myself, but only in a highly sarcastic and guarded way. Right. I would never say something Ernest into the camera. Okay. I would I would. I really feel no, I know. But like the good for you because that's self awareness and not enough people on the internet. Have that, like if something that important to say, capturing it in like an insincere way and your Instagram stories, it's like that's not the place for it. Like if you really have something important that you want to say, they put more thought into it, right. It'll bring light. It's hard. By making a moment camera, like if it's unimportant, like put like, that's what the end. That's the world that we live in. Like, don't take anything I say, seriously, if it's a blurry ass picture and I'm in my bed. Like if I wanted to be serious, I'll put on eyeliner not wearing right now. Right, right. Well, so what are you doing next like what do you want to keep doing? And is there anything like is stopping you from it like internally or this? Good question? Honestly, every picture that I see someone takes me stage that stops me because I'm like, damn bitch. That is so fathering you look. So I look at your the fact that you even just do the shows and I'm like, I'm envious of like just your cheer dance of because not everybody can do that, like not everybody because it's just the idea of just going on stage as one person show and just like accepting rejection or like the chance of rejection. It's scary. It's real. It's legit. Yeah, it'd be like, I'd be lying if I said I like love it. Like every time I go on stage. Like seconds before I do like this weird thing because there's like a million people in the dressing rooms. Like right before I go on, it's like the only time a Malone like talk to myself in the mirror. And I do a power and smile because the smiling, like if you're smiling, even if you're not happy like some, you just like become happy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I like force myself to smile and then like I really feel happy like I'll be like it's really weird that it really helps. And I know the power stance has been proven, not to work, but I find that it does work. Just like do things like hot myself up. It's really weird unlike embarrassing, but then the second I get on stage like a does go away. And when I'm off stage like that was amazing. Like I want to do it again. Okay. So it's like, here's a run and he's trying to win. It's like a roller coaster like you don't wanna go on and you like, you know, you're gonna throw up then you do what your, oh, yeah, it's heroin, I imagine, but that it seems like you've been able to bring the competence that you have out for yourself, but you don't like it doesn't seem like you really rely so much on like an external thing. No. And you want to know what really helps is like all of the jokes that I tell about myself are like self deprecating. So it's like I'm not taking myself too seriously because I'm so aware to like to a fault, like I never want people to think. I'm like trying to either. I'm not trying hard enough or I'm not working, or am I doing this? And I like I look around the room like what is everyone in this room thinking about me and let me try and fix that. It's like it's, but I hate when people aren't self aware enough, like they're just being a beast and they don't know that they're being these. You know what I mean? There's a fine line. So I go on stage and like try not to have all those integrators like this person over here is like thinking because there's a lot. Girls come with like their boyfriends who are like, you know, barstool alike. They couldn't be less interested in my show and they were dragged there and like makes me insecure. And I'm, I crave the attention of the boys and like I want you to laugh like I'm doing it for them. Do you know what I mean? It's like so stupid. I'm so in my head, right. It's also it's hard because like some people like what you do. Some people do some and everyone has sort of like their own specific opinion, and it's just not possible now change them all. And then I feel like once you let go of that, which I have not like your way lighter, I can imagine. I don't know. But I don't know if anyone really fully let me neither. To be honest, it seems like it can kinda does d I it because I feel like for a while she was doing what she thought everyone wanted her to do, what they like, what he news wanted her to do. And now ever since like she got robbed like she's the only doing shit like she wants to do, but I feel like she like the way she hundred gram. I feel like she's, oh, she's out of control on its yes, more like hers person. Okay. Well, like she's the type of person she's obsessive being skinny. Yes. Right. And she embraces that like an everyone gives her shift for it. Like when she endorsed those appetite suppressant lollipops like she is obsessively skinny, like on the show of any of the girls call her skinny. She's like dies. Yeah. Hey, you know what? Like good for you? Like at least she's not hiding behind. The people are so afraid to like wanna be skinny these days, apologize. Yes. Trek sick or no, she put a picture of her scale on she hit like one nineteen or something which hasn't hit since she was like, I don't know twenty. Yeah, and she was like celebrating it and it was like insensitive. Okay. I read one nineteen. I would with myself appropriate, but here's the thing insensitive. I can imagine a prayed. I can't imagine why one hundred nineteen pounds. Is that like every not everyone. I don't wanna say everyone and I get that. It might be a bad example like feel like you need to be one hundred nineteen pounds if that's not like healthy, but let's not pretend like the whole world doesn't count of her ball around that, right? So it's like you're not allowed to want to be skinny, but the only people who are successful or get what they want or wanna be models and actors way. One hundred pounds exact right? Just side breath. So I just wanna play. So I just want to point out. She is like five one, two and one hundred nineteen. If you go by the government, whatever the BMI scale, that's a healthy, you're supposed to be like one twenty five look unhealthy to me now, even though she is very thin and no, she doesn't love. It's that big, Buddha, like you would never think she's on healthy 'cause she's storing food for winter. I think things hibernating there. She just got to get rid of for someone who soaps Cecil being skinny. I'm surprised she hasn't got rid of it because it's like the only part of her that's not like proportional super small, its course implants over years that have grown on themselves or something. She worked so hard to be skinny and everything. She does her photos, everything so filtered like she's obsessed with thanksgiving, like just can't believe you're asking you literally look and by actually getting rid of harassment. Probably take off probably eight pounds of like ceremony while eleven yet. Right. Like, why wouldn't she do that? Yeah, and I don't. I don't like think that fake asked looks good, terrible guys like it. Yes, to a certain point like her, they look stupid. Yeah. Like when when when she was getting famous and she had like a chubby booty and it was like really cute and she like the thighs to support it, like everyone loved that. That's a look. She got out of natural with wanting to be skinny. So she wants tiny legs, but then she wants to ask if you've been asked that big like you need load-bearing legs. She does not have like Janine sunlight for an ethics and she doesn't hold. It sticks weird. I don't get home. She okay, everyone get cellulite. It's just leave. I'd actually just like chrome. You know, it's literally going to take down like one of those like you press the button, right? Boats may buckle. That's what's going to happen. Like I don't. Okay. How does she not have cellulite though? Like everyone, Jamie, everyone. Brazilian body sculpting. We're like, they literally, I did cool sculpting ship. It doesn't the sane yoga. It's not the same, but I won't get it now. I was thinking about it actually. Everyone don't do it. Okay. I'm a huge waste your money. Oh, good to know up. Jackie's really been wanting to do it. I'll tell her tell her. No. Okay. Although one of my friends did get it and like it happen like in a weird way where she only got like one AB to show. Like worse lawn yet. She, she's like, I'm very confused what's happening to my body, very pro, things like that. Like if they work like, I just got my neck done and it was the most incredible thing I've ever done. So I was like, okay, so I was going back and forth on cable. I've heard like really mixed reviews. I'd heard that like if it works, it worked really well, but sometimes people have gone through it and it doesn't work. And then I also heard it is so painful like they inject you and I, I heard a girl talking today should again injected like six times usually to does the trick, but I have very low tolerance for pain. So I was like really nervous to do it, but I would look at pictures and like I'm very competent and I really like embrace who I am, but like the double chain really fucking bothered me and I wasn't willing to embrace it like I'm willing to embrace all my flaws except for that one. I wanted to change it. So I was, I may Jackie come with me and we went to Ramona singers doctor because my Ramona looks insane doing and like she looks Annie's risky looks. Kirsch is no wrinkles renewal. I want to know what it is. And so she goes there on housewives who doctor is is like it's like search Google. We found it. We made an appointment and she had like a cancellation the next day. I went and I was telling her like my quandary with type. I don't know if I should do it with me and she was, I don't do it. I really don't recommend it, but she had a patented surgery and she was like, I'll show you pictures and the pictures like look too good to be true. And she's like, basically, it's outpatient liposuction. So it's like, not only will I go in with a needle and suction out like the fat from your neck. She so smartly she, she's like, I'm going to take out the fat from like your jowls and your lower Haight exactly down your face and because I'm only twenty four. She's like the elasticity when you take it out, your face will bounce back up. Like I knew I had a double chin, and then you might face was round, but I couldn't attribute the problem. It was Louis the fat in my lower cheeks. So the next week I went and they give you a shot a valium and I'm like, knock it on drugs. I was for wreaking out and like I was literally having a reaction like screaming at my lungs, but I was like, don't stop. Don't stop and. Her, it didn't hurt because I was completely numb and fucked up. But I heard what was going on in like that freaked me out like when she was having a conversation. Yeah. 'cause he's not. Not it's not real surgery. No. I mean, she was performing on my next look. I couldn't see, but I saw her the nurse and they were talking sheets? No. What is the? What did you hear just. I heard like clanging tools like it was weird and it was it was freaky. But like I was like, it's all for the greater good, keep going, keep going on. And then I was really swollen. And they put me in this thing and it takes three months for like the full result. And I think I've just hit the three month Mark and she took before and after pictures. And I was just like, oh my God, like it is amazing. Like I'd have like a slim neck now, and I was like, never slim neck person and I just love it. It's like really like made me out of control in terms of my confidence. Like, I'm, I'm dangerous. Like I'm so out of control and it's just it's changed my whole outlook on life and I'm and now. And now now I used to be the type of person where I'm like, whoever you are, like whatever you look like, just embrace it, and that's great too. But like that's really hard and sometimes like it's okay to want to fix the things you fucking just about to say that literally more power to you for doing it and emitting this ugly and it needs to go. It's unrealistic for people to say, embrace everything about yourself, your perfect the way you are when the that thing is right, everyone's telling you it's not the the added pressure of like, oh, now I need to accept right. And what's like what is considered beautiful now, only people would skinny necks. So I had to, I had to conform, I think, with plastic surgery or any type of procedure like just don't jump if anybody's considering it, just don't just do it the next day after you decided, you know, but I feel I know you've been thinking about it for a while. My to do research. I just mean like, oh, you noticed something about your face and you're just like, oh, I need to get that removed tomorrow. A great sit within like, I've been sitting on Bo talks for a couple of months, and I'm going to do it because I had this fucking line in the middle of my forehead and. Bothers me so much. And now you're looking at. Reading as you. I also got botox for the first time and they it's important to get it before the line gets worse because it's preventative up your, they don't fuck up. Basically tranquilize them your muscles so that it doesn't create the line. Even more the line is your skin. Yeah, I'm going to. I need to get that line to get rid of my Harry Potter scar, but let me say she fell, but it's like it's like a sound like a scarlet I has color to it. That would be bad. Oh, yeah. No, I think it's a lightning bolt, so I remember it. I like it. I remember that that's the kind of thing you can embrace yet. Now, double Chen is bothering me that much. And can you show us the before picture later? Yeah, I have been wanting to post it, but like it's so I can't believe I was walking around with a face like that. I'm like embarrassed of the before, but I'll show you guys. Yeah, I doubt any bad. It's bad. I wanted to go away. Yes. Well, the thing that you got to get the jobs. The chin changes. The thing that I wanted changes your whole face. That's what Bella Hadid got Johnson. I want to many right, but I think it was that plus the cheap filler biller when you're skinny, that's hard about being a models like they make you be one hundred pounds, but you also need like a fleshy face that has like red like undertones and you can't do that when you don't eat, you get like ghost face where like your skin, six, your bone. So they all have to KENDALL space. You could tell every six months you like redoes puffiness. So she starts out really puffy and then like a couple months later, she'll like look a little bit more normal because when you're that skinny, like you can have a like a beautiful fleshy colorful face you. And you have no fat in your face. So it was life changing often looks very puppy to. It's like she doesn't fit. She looks puffy. It's like she just got her fillers redone and they still need to settle in. Right. Is the puffy from the injection? Yeah, junk. She gets filler. She definitely gets her lip done. I don't know. A lot of them get like fat from their ass injected to their face, like Samantha Jones. Also Bella some. Okay. Do you see this photo of Bella? It was like pretty recently. She was wearing like, yes, of course. Of course, her hips, like of course, out of control SCO, what the but I don't know. Just like literally the mold of Barbie. No, totally their organs like had to move lace definitely did. How did she achieve that? I don't know. You can't just make, honestly. I have no idea, and she looks amazing because she waste drained by trainers, really do move around your organs. Do they yet? You're also they're really, but I really wanted do. That's the name of this podcast. I heard it's really bad for you, but if you're going to know another thing with like your ear, rub the back of your ear like makes you not hungry, but it's like so bad one brain. No, I've heard that if you rub the back of your you calm down. Okay. No. There's also one about hunger, but it's like terrible. I don't. I don't know if it's like you like touching a part of your brain. I don't know. Yeah, I thought that was like the crease is like touching a part of your. I'm not a doctor. I don't know. I always. So what else do you have? So I like about twenty minutes ago. What else do how she doesn't have a minute shined even what other surgeries or no. Know what? What are you have going on in the girl with no job. So we're, we're hitting the road. I'm going to Atlanta this weekend and I invited Brielle Biermann to my show. And she said she answered my mom and she was like, yes, you might have Ariana's homecoming. So she has to check make sure she come. But I told her, I believe tickets for herbal call. One saw her on park at the Starbucks on parking twenty eighth and she was carrying a good Starbucks. Yes. She was carrying like four like Frappuccino and like a tray, and I was like, those offered you there. I'm so hopefully she comes cross your fingers and I'm just torn around the world through January and we do the toasts live Monday through Friday, ten thirty AM eastern time. And what else is going on. Both my sisters are engaged. I really meeting and like, thank you. But like executive for me because I need you dresses and like they both need to make me look like kittens getting how long the weddings. Like a decent time, six months Suva while gay. I'll get to work soon. Where's Jackie? O? I guess you can't say told me later. Jogging. John like so private. I'm like for me, I was like, I put my vagina everywhere. Like, I don't care, but he's like reserved and I don't want to speak on her behalf. If she doesn't want me. I forgot we what I never know what she wants you to say. So I just like I don't say anything she she wants to reveal. So for someone with no job seems like you have a journal so busy so busy, but like not that busy. Thank God says they're so busy. They're never like that. I consider busy out of the house be too so like, but I can be in my house and be very busy and working nonstop and like make a million dollars, doesn't feel like work, but me sweating out here like walking getting on mcadoo blocks away. Like this is work. Yeah, right out of the house is worked. So I'm I worked twenty four, seven, but like only the hours I'm outside to account is like hard work. I agree with that because you have to like something about your home. That is. That's challenging. It's challenging. I think in my home, it's like the womb just all safe and like my dog dog like I completely agree. I have all my locks. To the bed, and then you leave going on in the world and then you're like, why did I leave? And there's all these, like, how do I get back there? I always regret leaving my house, like whatever it is the case. I don't care like I'm like, no, I I like to make each into, but there is only part of me that's like, okay, but like my bet is their right. It's not even my bed. It's like, unless I'm going on vacation with everyone that I know in love like I don't. I'm not interested. Do you know what I mean? Right. Everyone's on vacation like me and Ben went on our up to Mexico for our one year anniversary and it was great. But like everyone was back home in like I was missing out like if it's Christmas and everyone's gone, like I could relax because there's nothing going on at home that I need to have foam about. I'm going to Dominican in two weeks. You're going to want to come home the whole side. No. Going to a beach for like a past year? Yes, dying God. When are you getting married by the way next in August of that's nice time to get married that hot. Yeah, thanks. So it's gonna be hot as fun. What rusty to wear velvet. Poor rusty wants to wear velvet, but I was. He was like, should I? Everyone tells me, no, I'm like. No, you're good. Dog to get the photos. Here's the thing I I had like, no. And then I, I was like, no, you don't have to don't worry about it, and he's a sweater and to. And so then I look look done some fucking blog that select velvet is like, and it was like, all right, we're, we're, we're going back to say, so. Yeah, Delvin chic. It is guy. We all agree. Okay. These a few shirts. Well, thank you. So. Yeah, this is great, fine. Obviously, everyone knows to follow it at grow with no job job where the morning toast girl, throw job dot com or my tickets to send to my DMC. Something nice and positive about me. Everybody stays only knife that's the missing homework for the week. Yeah, something nice to. So when you hate. You say nothing at all? I really everyone did it, so I'll have to talk to come up with something night. You would say nice to someone because not like I don't want, I'll have to Jacob Sartorius because I fucking that everyone's needs. All right, great to know that was fun guys also don't forget to Prieur our book. When's happier? Cloudy is on the back of it's the closest I'll ever get your writing a book and it's like my claim to fame I'm going to rip off the back Freeman. Yeah, so everybody should get it and an Email us if you have any questions for Claudia for us for anything, just feedback. DSP a budget dot com. All right, bye. Gene.

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Juen 4th 2019

Talking Tesla

10:28 min | 1 year ago

Juen 4th 2019

"The. Hey boys, no. Have key for Ilan daily this Tuesday. June fourth. Did you listen to yesterday showed did you go here? Did you take a little squeeze it? That's right. Because it wasn't a daily. It was the big show, the lodge showed the grand show. So go and check it out. I thought the energy was really good Thome, and Robert nigh were on fire actually did it set it a morning when we usually record in the afternoon or evenings. We were little tight so that one was good one. So check it out. There's Big Mac event today. Will that's yesterday Yotam? Big Mac on the MAC all excited about the new stuff, particularly at the pro stuff. But also about the updates to s and the ipads, and all that stuff. But I feel like a bit of a hostage because epilogues come to it with stuff that androids head for three years, and apple people get so excited and the Android people go really dock mode with had that quite a while. Thank you very much. I think it's just funny. It's kind of. Like, what's cold hostage syndrome? Yeah. That's what it's like anyway. The big news of last week was actually head self to Ryan McCaffrey from ride the lightning podcast, that's a podcast. It's been ran longtime almost as long as as long I guess he is a game. I guy that does some gaming podcast, perhaps anyway. He's got very popular has the podcast and he snagged Illinois for now. So all the rest of us the do test, the put gusts very, very jealous of him extraordinarily jealous. But nice work. I much prefer alone being interviewed by fans of tesla than by the financial people and stuff because they focus on different things. So there's about one hundred million things I wish Ron have asked, and he didn't. But it's only an hour and you couldn't ask questions you want to if you had, like twenty hours with him, but here are some of the most important ones, I got at, but go check it out riding the lightning cussed so Fremont, it is for model. Why not necessarily what I heard in? Ilan's voice because he thinks it's the right thing. But the people around him that he listens to think that it's the most efficient way to get model up fast. And that is sort of to move onto one line into model three and y sort of next to each other using about seventy seventy five percent of the parts, not doing it over and Fremont. And he did not know that's no perfect solution. Because the batteries in the skates are Millard over in Nevada Fremont, because, you know, it's much more expensive and terms of living there. And so if we have to pay people more all that kind of stuff, but in the end, it sounds like the other voices of made him realize that Fremont is the way they should go for now. I want to know what's going to happen in the parking lot Freeman. They can have to have a lot more people working there. And the parking lot for the workers is already full upsetting. It's upsetting. It did say a couple of interesting things about model why, and I most importantly, that he felt he really underplayed model, y very specifically because he didn't wanna capitalize cannibalize Keppel has. Cannibalize model three. So if he had gone out there and gone, like this is the best cow, vivid evident by fire. It's better than the s it's been in the exits bid on the three it's so much. It's so much better. It's got so much room on the inside, even though it doesn't look much bigger than the three, it's like the Tatas way, bigger inside. This is the car that you should get. It doesn't have the falcon wing doors. And if you did Bill that then people would go, well, I'm not going to buy model three. Thank you very much. I'm going to wait for this amazing incredible. That just is a sort of year or so way. I think that's right. I think that's what you have to do. You have to get people fairly excited, but not too excited or you're not gonna be able to sell your model threes right now and they really do need to sell model threes. I personally, I'm super excited about the model y I think it will be the last car, I ever own because after that, I think, you know, play that out for threes after white comes out. I really do think that autonomous driving. If Ilan is even close to being right. We'll be baked into all of the cows the threes, the wise in. The recent is an Xs and there will be a rideshare network in most places that where I go. So I don't think I'll need a character that, but we'll see at Fathi is. But if I'm going to have in the next three years, I've got a lease that comes up, actually, in January, it'll be model why so probably have to do a month to month for wall, but I really do want a model why. And then at the end of that time, I think it'll be old done for me because I do not want to drive any more. I want somebody to draw me like miss daisy. Now, one of the things they talked about was roadster, and he talked about roads roadster and killing the halo effect of the ice car. So right now, it is true, although much less than it used to be that there's a halo effect of ice. Cows are just better and faster and they go further on a tank of gas, and he wanted to put the smack down to that halo effect of ice cow. So if you've got a car that is electric that has foster acceleration fast, top speed. Better handling because of the low center of gravity has six hundred twenty thirty forty miles of range on a single charge and you know, head to head, they'll be drag racist with the most expensive two million dollar supercars. And if the roads that can just blow them away on all of those things, then, yet that guy in the pub, the Tokyo bad how great ice causa and the latest greatest McLaren or whatever it is. And you can say the roast is better than that. But the rose has been that eve at the roads has been, it is a psychological effect. Okay. And then there's a trickle down thing, which occurs in also tesla makes the best fastest thing in the world. But it also makes these other which are really great. It's a really interesting marketing move if you can do it come out with a super premium ridiculous model and capture people's imagination Silla much cheaper model, but people who are buying the cheap model feel like they kind of got a piece of the super premium thing, it's done in lots of places and it works very well. So I hope the roads is just killer. But he only thinks they're going to sell ten thousand a year. I'm amazed that they sell ten dozen. But I guess, for supercars in the range that people used to paying two hundred two hundred fifty thousand dollars is not that much. I guess these supercars I don't have one are like three four five hundred thousand up to a million or more dollars. So it's a relatively cheap Karen, if they can do all the things that he says amazing. And he's still talking about putting stupid rockets again. We could put like three g rockets on you could vertically up into the air to g oh, please don't do that. It sounds frightening. And he talked a lot about the pickup. So he personally is most excited about the pickup of everything that's coming, even. Why and roads to? So he said in summary on this podcast that they need to make better than the F one fifty an intimate for lifts than fifty thousand dollars. Now, the if one fifty four hundred fifty here in the United States is the biggest selling passenger vehicle. They celebrate a million of those years about twice as many as they do the sedans that are at the. It start twenty nine thousand dollars. And the limited edition version, which, I guess is the completely tricked out version is sixty two thousand dollars people really love their trucks here in the United States. It has a range in a full tank of gas of about four hundred five hundred fifty miles depending with doing city driving ohi way driving. It gets a bad sixteen to eighteen miles per gallon, which works out to about twenty two cents a mile here in the United States is at right. Right. Twenty two cents. Whereas for model three, for example, in California to average electricity prices you're going to get a bad for four cents a mile so four to twenty two cents. The truck will have less efficient than model three, but it gives you an idea Euboea driver, your big truck and a third the process that you'll be out of driver, and your gasoline, truck, he says it's gonna look with but that's not necessarily a bad thing because when, you know, cause came out, they look really weird compared to horses. So he's suggesting that maybe they're gonna be pushing the design as of this a little further than most people are gonna be comfortable, but maybe they'll catch up later. So what do I think it needs to have some of the basic things I think you need to have in this car. That's listen, fifty thousand is a five hundred mile range that probably won't hurt the fifty thousand elevating, but at least a five hundred mile range, I think they need to have a six hundred mile range vehicle in this thing because you also want to have the ability to plug stuff in one hundred twenty volt stuff to be able to plug into that, which would significantly reduce your. So you wanna be able to drive along way and then be able to plug in some Queant and run it off the battery, and not worry that you're gonna be able to drive home, kind of stuff you definitely want the ability to Jack it up and down with something like suspension in. He says it's going to be blazingly fast. I think it'd be really great to have. Interesting cargo with seen in the Riviera and we've talked about, on the show, so something between the cab and the back with his big hole, and you can put extra stuff in there, and all of a sudden, you'll have the front, and that kind of stuff. So I think if they do it, right. They can have something significantly better than an F one fifty. The question is at what price. So he says they gotta start at under fifty thousand but that means it's still gonna be an expensive truck. And what would you get for fifty thousand versus I'm sure there'll be a seventy seventy five thousand version. Little have everything. He's excited about it. So therefore, I'm excited. Bill, ladies and gentlemen, boys nails go listen to runs right land podcast. My name's mellow. But part of the talking tesla. Podcast as it were we had the big show at the lodge show yesterday Monday. Go check it out. I think it's a pretty good. And hey, ladies us a rating review going tunes and become a patriot would love to do to do all that stuff takes a lot of effort to put this together every day, we love doing it because, you know what are you trying to do pretty important stuff? And we'd just trying to do pop. Sport.

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Winston Churchill:  The Great Escape Part 11 | Hideout

Giants of History

22:54 min | 6 months ago

Winston Churchill: The Great Escape Part 11 | Hideout

"How Winston Churchill spent three of the handful of days that he was on the run from the boars after his escape would be a minor form of hell for most people. There is no doubt about it as we all know. Churchill had previously been wandering the VELDE after his initial escape from prison. Trying figure out how to get to Portuguese East Africa now. He was completely alone. Kind've two hundred feet below the surface of the belt and it was pitch black at least for the first of those three days for after that first day down in the bowels of the earth as Churchill described it himself he learned very quickly how important it was to light the candle that he was given down there. At what taught him this very valuable lesson of lighting his candle. Well it's that creature that even Indiana Jones himself couldn't stomach Churchill while he was hiding in this pitch black maze two hundred feet below the velde in the bowels of the Earth as we said he was surrounded at all times by rats and not. Just your typical gray rat that you're picturing right. Now on your head but albino rats all white with red eyes. How many there were down there. He couldn't tell but he would later find out that they weren't fact. Everywhere author candice. Millard says that there were quote swarms of them and quote the first night. The church was down there before he knew about the rats in the twilight of his sleep he could feel little tugs on his pillow as he lay there. He was then fully awakened by the feeling of something jumping on him and then crawling across his body again. What that's something was. He didn't know he tried to light the candle at that point but it was gone. He found out later that the rats had eaten it while he was asleep alongside all the food that he had with him it was only when he lit the other candles that he was subsequently given that he was finally able to understand what was happening down there. So imagine that moment you're deep underground in a pitch black maze. Hearing and feeling the scurrying all around you but not seeing anything and then you pull out a candle and strike the match in the narrow field of the flames light everywhere you it appears that the floor that you're actually standing on is moving only to realize that after your vision adapts to the light. The floor isn't actually moving. It's just a small C- of Albino rats climbing all over one another. They're white bodies and red eyes glowing in the candles light now at least to me. That sounds like something written into a horror movie script. Only this was Winston Churchill's reality for about seventy two hours during his escape from the Boers as I said. Hell when we left off last episode the event twenty-five year-old Winston Churchill was still wandering the South African velde trying to escape from bore territory by reaching Portuguese East Africa which lay three hundred miles to the east Churchill's plan for escaping to Portuguese east. Africa was to hide and ride in the trains that were traveling east at night and then jump off the trains before the sun came up each day to find water and food before hiding again in the Velde for the rest of the day until the sun went down and then that cycle would be on repeat for days till freedom was his in Portuguese east Africa but the boars knew that Churchill might utilize the trains as a means of escape and so they ordered that all the trains be shut down thus churchill was forced to look for other means of escape all while the manhunt for him raged on with the Boers printing three thousand photographs of Churchill for distribution and searching every nook and cranny that they could possibly find looking for the fugitive however Churchill eluded the board search efforts by navigating the velde deliberately and carefully but soon enough Churchill's energies started to give way he had not eaten a decent meal in days and he was unable to sleep as you might imagine given the stress of the situation that he was in in addition his only means of travel to Portuguese East Africa. Now that the trains were shut down was his own legs and it would take him weeks to reach freedom. If he walked all the while risking being recaptured by the boers so in short Churchill was running out of options so the next night as he found himself wandering the velde again in the darkness trying to figure out exactly what to do and at the end of his tether as he put it he saw what looked to be a fire in the distance and so he moved closer to find out exactly what it was but as he got closer he realized that it wasn't fire that he saw it was something else and so a decision had to be made at that point whether to move forward and take the chance or to wander out back into the darkness of the Veldt but Churchill of course being Churchill as we know him very well by now always one for adventure he stepped forward and he decided to just go for it and let the chips fall where they may so. If it wasn't a fire that he initially thought he saw the distance. What was it what he had actually seen was the mouth of a coal mine being illuminated by the furnaces inside that powered the machinery of the mind. So you can picture just in the distance something glowing orange and then surrounding the mouth of this coal mine were a few small buildings as well. As a quote small but substantial stone house two stories high and quote that's Churchill capturing that from his own writing and it was in front of this small stonehouse that Churchill now stood trying to decide what to do should he turn around and walk back out into the Velde or should he knock on the door of the house and as we said Churchill rolled the dice quoting Churchill from his own book. My early life. He quote advanced toward the Silent House and struck my fist upon the door. It was around three o'clock in the morning. Initially no one answered his knock so churchill knocked again and then suddenly a light went on in the window of a room upstairs and then that same window shot open. A man yelled out of the window worse. Da Meaning who's there Churchill. Then admitting that he had not thought this far ahead just blurted something out he said quote I want help I have had an accident and quote and from there Churchill then heard the heavy steps of the man coming down the staircase then the lock of the door opened and the door swung open and standing. There was a tall man with a dark moustache. The man then said to Churchill this time in English quote what do you want? Churchill then continued his lie pretending that he was an injured bore quote. I've had an accident. I was going to join my commando at commodity port. We were skylark thing. I've been unconscious for hours. I think I have dislocated my shoulder and quote the man then said to churchill quote. Well come in the man then escorted Churchill into another small room which was a dining room slash office. He then struck a match lit a lamp and put the lamp on the dining room table. In front of were Churchill was standing and then the man did something that made Churchill very nervous he placed a gun on the opposite end of the table where he stood then looking straight at Churchill in the dim light of the lamp the man said quote. I think I'd like to know a little bit more about this railway accident of yours. Churchill could sense some suspicion in the man's voice so Churchill replied quote. I think I'd better tell you the truth. The man then responded. I think you had so very tense. Energy the table at this point as you can imagine for Churchill went with his gut instinct and he came totally clean stating quote. I am Winston Churchill War correspondent of the Morning Post. I escaped last night from Pretoria. I am making my way to the frontier. I have plenty of money. Will you help me? And quote after Churchill's confession. The man allowed a very long silence to fall between them. And this is all from Churchill's recollection of the events and so there was a very tense energy once again until the man finally stood up walked over to the door and locked it he then turned around walked slowly toward Churchill and then out of nowhere grabbed his hand and started to shake it. Now as you might expect Churchill was caught off guard but the man then enthusiastically said to churchill quote. Thank God you have come here. It is the only house for twenty miles where you would not have been handed over but we are British here and we will see you. Through and quote imagine that moment when Churchill realised that his gamble had paid off him. Knocking on that door had absolutely been the right decision because the man who is now shaking his hand was named Mr John Howard and John Howard was British as he had said but he was by this point. Also a quote naturalized Burger or a boar citizen who is maintaining the mine that Churchill had mistaken for a fire at the behest of the government in other words. John Howard was a Brit with British loyalties. Personally but he was being allowed to live in bore territory working their mind for them. Churchill could not have been any luckier here for it was this man and all the rest of the mind workers who were also British who would ultimately help Churchill in his escape and this was no small thing that these folks were doing either. If caught aiding and abetting Churchill escape they would most likely be charged with treason and then shot but John Howard and the rest of his crew. Put it all on the line to help Winston Churchill get to Portuguese east Africa and so right after this exchange between Churchill and Howard Churchill was immediately given food water and of course whiskey and as Churchill ate and drank John Howard left the house to wake up his crew. Snake it all come up with a plan to get Churchill border territory and remember. This is in the middle of the night after a while. Howard returned to the House with most of the plan put together in his head with a few small variables still left to figure out Howard asked Churchill to then follow him and back out into the darkness they both went with just a hint of the dawn that was to come on the horizon and so they walked across the yard of this house toward the mouth of the coal mine and it was here that Churchill heard the words that would foreshadow all that was to come at the mouth of the coal mine was another man named Mr Do snap who was from Oldham. Which in an extremely wild coincidence happens to be the same exact town were Churchill had. I stood for election to parliament and lost which Mr do snap apparently remembered for as Mr do snap shook Churchill's hand at the mouth of the coal mine. He said to churchill quote. They'll all vote for you. Next time and quote prophetic words to say the least. But from there Mr Howard's plan for Churchill's escape was put into motion. Churchill was led into the cage of the coal mine and from there and Churchill's own words quote down we shot into the bowels of the earth and so the cage descended two hundred feet down into a pitch black labyrinth of mine. Shafts and two additional Scottish miners were at the bottom of the mine waiting for Churchill Churchill exited the cage and he followed the to minors and they wound their way through this maze guided only by the lanterns that they were carrying Churchill followed closely behind. Churchill's own words again quote. We walked for some time through the pitchy. Labyrinth with frequent turns twists and alterations of level and finally stopped in sort of chamber where the air was cool and fresh and quote the to minors then laid out a makeshift bed for Churchill and gave him candles first and then a box of cigars and a bottle of whisky how well they appear to know Churchill already they then left him there with the warning to not move from this space no matter what happens and then the two men disappeared back into the darkness and Churchill was then alone again. He wrote later of this moment. Quote in this comfortable mood and speeded by intense fatigue. I soon slept the sleep of the weary but of the triumphant and quote Churchill would spend three days down in the mine hiding from the bore search parties that were combing the area looking for him and these three days down in the mine. Were not altogether that pleasant as you might imagine. He was alone for pretty much all of that time. With the exception of a few visits from Howard and the other men who brought him down more food and provisions but the darkness of the mind started to wear on him and soon enough as we said earlier he would learn that while there were no other people down in the shaft with him there were in fact countless rats to keep him company. How he didn't go crazy during those three days. I'll never know but if I had to take a guess. It must've had something to do with that bottle of whisky that he was given finally after three days down in the mine. Mr Howard thought it was safe enough to bring Churchill back up to the surface and hide him in a small secret room that was behind some packing cases inside his own office and so church was once again instructed not to come out of the room unless he heard the secret knock that they both agreed. Upon for a few more days. Churchill sat locked away in this small room reading a copy. A Robert Louis. Stevenson's book kidnapped and it's worth mentioning here that one of those days. While he was hiding in the secret room he heard a series of gunshots outside the House and he immediately thought that the boers had in fact now found him and that it was all over and he was being recaptured. But John Howard being the great guy that he was anticipating the anxiety that church would have been feeling after hearing the gunshots. He soon came up to ease his fear telling him that. It wasn't fact a bore military officer that had come but that they weren't looking for. Churchill any longer and this was because they said that they had caught Churchill the day before in another town which obviously was untrue given the fact Churchill himself was hearing this news regardless though to get the man to leave the Property Howard challenged him to a rifle shooting contest which he lost to the man and he paid the guy two pounds and then the man took off and after hearing this of course Churchill felt much better but then Howard said something else that made Churchill anxious once again Howard said as he left the small room quote. It's all fixed up for tonight and quote meaning that the time for hiding out was now over and the time for escape had now come. Churchill responded with quote what do I do Howard replied quote? Nothing you simply follow me when I come for you. And so here was the next phase of the plan in a nutshell. John Howard knew a man named Charles Burnham who was a Dutch shopkeeper who live nearby and it's worth noting here that Churchill refers to burn them in his recollection of the events as Bergner. Now I'm not certain if he was simply disguising the man's name in his book or simply got it wrong. But this shopkeeper Burnham sympathized with the British and John Howard knew this so Howard approached Burnham about helping Churchill Escape and Burnham agreed to help Burnham then mentioned that he was scheduled to ship a large order of wool by train to delegate obey the exact point that church was trying to get to and this shipment was scheduled to leave on December nineteenth. So if they wanted to try it they hype. Churchill in the middle of this will shipment and smuggled Churchill into Portuguese East Africa that way. And here's how Churchill himself captures how he would be smuggled out in the bales of wool quote. The bales could be so packed as to leave a small place in the center of the truck in which I could be concealed and quote and truck here means train car and this would be easily accomplished as well given the fact that the mind itself was connected with the main railway by a small branch line and all of Burnham's bales of wool would be loaded onto the train right next to the mine and this was no small order of Wolf. Either as Churchill describes the amount of well being shipped would quote fill two or three large trucks and quote and so now that the plan was in place and everything was secured the reality of this next phase of his escape landed upon Churchill. Pretty heavily he wrote of the state of his mind at point and the idea of losing his freedom and it's a lengthy quote but an important one as it really does give us a sense of what Churchill was thinking. Here he wrote quote. I was more worried about this than almost anything that happened to me so far in my adventure when by extraordinary chance one has gained some great advantage or prize and actually had it in one's own possession and been enjoying it for several days. The idea of losing it becomes almost unsupportable. I had really come to count upon freedom as a certainty and the idea of having to put myself in a position which I should be perfectly helpless without a move of any kind absolutely at the caprice of Searching Party at the frontier was profoundly harassing rather than face this ordeal. I would've much preferred to start off on the velde with a pony and a guide and far from the haunts of man to make my way march by March beyond the wide territories of the Boer Republic. However in the end. I accepted this proposal of my generous rescuer and arrangements were made accordingly end quote and with the plan in place and with Churchill committed to it he now had to just sit and wait for the moment of truth then at two. Am in the darkness of the early morning. Hours of December nineteenth. The door to the secret room were. Churchill was still hiding opened and there in the doorway once again stood John Howard. The time had come Aw.

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36 - Remote Work: Extreme Edition

"Me L. Hello, catherine. Hi. Hi. Oh my gosh. I can hear you loud and clear. I'm so happy. That's perfect bit very it's been very slurred tonight. I was worried too because I just thought there's a million things that could go wrong. But this is great. Thank you so much for making the time I'm talking to Catherine mallet, and you can tell the phone call is a little choppy, this is because she's calling from Antarctica. Welcome to rework a podcast by base camp about the better way to work and run your business. I'm Sean Hilton. I'm Waylon Wong. And I will let our guest today introduce herself. My name is Kathryn Millard astrophysicist actually work for the ice cube collaboration which is a nineteen detector those poll Waylon the story hits on a couple of my most nerdy interests, mainly polar exploration, and Astro physics actually do mind if we do a little physics lesson. I to help explain what Catherine's doing in the south pole. I'm all yours. Professor hilter. Okay. The ice cube neutrino observatory is this big scientific experiment where Katherine and our colleagues studied these tiny subatomic particles called neutrinos and by tiny. I mean, really really tiny which makes them extremely hard to detect the ice cube was basically about five thousand light sensors arrayed over cubic kilometers sunk deep in the Arctic ice Tommy more about these neutrinos. So violent cosmic events like exploding stars send neutrinos hurtling through space at essentially the speed of light some of those neutrinos are going to pass through the earth where scientists like Katherine can study them. And how come this has to be done in an article? So I think this is the coolest part coolest anyway to avoid interference from background radiation. Neutrino detectors need to be buried deep underground. They also need some sort of transparent medium, some detectors consist of enormous tanks of water that have been built in abandoned mines ice cube. However uses the thick pure and ultra transparent ice that's found at the south pole. That's clever when comes through the it starts into acting, and we'll lose energy by emitting light, blue light. And they relate is what we detect are in ice cube. So to say those little flashes of blue light get picked up is cubes optical sensors by tracking which sensors trigger in which order, Catherine or colleagues can figure out the direction the neutrino was traveling and how much energy at head. And that's the end of Shawn's physical. Listen, but Wayland you didn't lead on the story because you you're looking to unlock the secrets of the cosmos, worry that was just a bonus. But I was introduced to Catherine actually in a more roundabout way. I got an Email from someone doing PR floor an anti malware software company called MC soft. They're headquartered in New Zealand, but have people working remotely all over the world. Just like base camp. And the peer person mentioned they had an employee in Arctic I seize on that right away. Because I thought it'd be neat to do a story about what it's like to work not just remotely, but extremely remotely from an article. And I started working part time for them because they needed someone that speaks for languages, and I want to know the ones that they were looking for. So there was nice on the when I applied here. Actually, people told me that the internet here so bad that I there's no way I could continue with my job at the moment this necessarily true. However, we are not sure how much of the satellites that we currently are going to be open throat the entire winter. Which is why we took the pickup in basically freezing my employment for the time that I'm working Feis Cuban the in providence. Oh back to them. Once I finish up here. Hey, so what's the risk with the satellite in the winter? And that starts fairly soon. Right. You're coming up on that season. Now. It doesn't have duct tape to do with the window. What's happening is that older science stare that is currently being produced. Here's transmitted throughout the hated. Set the light. That's the light is only useful the science data that we don't necessarily have access to any of its internet so design, but that science data satellite is reaching the end of its life on they've been expecting it to crash into the full awhile now on current full stay, this might happen. In a pro if that happens, this nice feather bed with call on at the moment will become a dedicated satellite for science state that only on we'll have to go back gyna-, which is a great name for Smith light. That's that's gonna be the kind of internet, but you have to wait a Mets opened up a page an-and actually working remotely as Mona's on. Title. It's many because when I was going back and forth with the PR person about interviewing Katherine he told me that she had to start working for MC soft because of bandwidth limitations. I'm using air quotes around bandwidth, limitations. And at first I thought that was an annoying corporate euphemism for getting laid off. But as you her Catherine explain its littoral bandwidth, Catherine I were able to do an audio call because right now, we're too is in the south pole. They get four hours of good internet day for personal stuff while the satellite passes overhead and that four hour window shifts by a few minutes each day when Catherine I talked it was seven PM her time and midnight might time. It took a non zero amount of effort to coordinate this call and that gave me a very small taste of how Catherine's work life in. An Arctic is unique this episode ended up being about what it's like to live and work with a small group of people in very close proximity. Isolated from the rest of the world. It's about self care and working calmly in extreme conditions, which is very rework after all. So let's get back to Catherine story when she first heard about the opportunity to work at ice cube. She was early in her studies to get a PHD huge. These take Lynn. So when I heard about this opportunity, it was more of a dream didn't expect it to come true. On things progressed more and more of my friends from the investing spending here, and they all came back, and they were thrilled. They will said this has been the best time of their life. If I have the opportunity after different Cliquot. So once I finished my PHD invited plight directly. They interviewed me. But they didn't pick me. Then every applied this young. Actually this year. They picked me some. Can you talk about the kind of preparation you had to do how much time did you have? And you know, were you given materials and resources about everything you needed to do before departing. So the preparations are in this case the initial job interview was back in March. And at that time, they lot of medical checks because the medical coverage shoes bedding admitted so they only one they wanna make sure the don't type any pre existing conditions. We were into medicine discontinuity in August, nineteen anatomy, spend, two months medicine, preparing for jobs. They told us kind of equipment we have here. Whether the typical failures what kind of fixes we can implement after the trading, Wisconsin. The team was sent to Denver Colorado for the next day JR. What happens is that? We have a team building events that we get to know all the people that we will be spending a years on the thing is fairly small station winter. So a lot of the jobs that are usually done by they'll have to be all by us. What happened in Denver's that we got a crash to be firefighter on. I will be part of the official fire brigade for the winter. Oh my goodness. Oh, what kind of training? Did you get to become a firefighter? We we did get to climbed through burning houses. It was actually pretty cool. The first thing you need to decide to put on that gear. Correct. Dry because if you put it on Longley into go into a fire, it's gonna be pretty pretty bad. Firefighting is even trickier at the poll because it's too cold for water based fire retardants train this week here in at SaaS both. So that we can be prepared in once a month. We have drove where we simulated fire. We have to go into fight down. What kind of mental health assessment? Do they have to do because I imagine that's just as important as the physical aspect. What is is that actually during the team bowling spend a week together? A team building there's a psychologist present during the week that Monus serves us also teach us how to cope with anger or disagreement within the group, for example of very extrovert twists. No, very introverted person could have issues coping him because I he doesn't find enough contact on your friends cannot retrieve himself from the people get enough time. So that looking for a very specific type of person shy. Do you consider yourself more introverted or extroverted? That's a really good question. Probably introverted art Biden extroverted in daily life. It's very hard to explain I do need my private time. And I do go to my room spent time by myself, but I also enjoy being out in time with the people here actually that probably makes you ideal then because you're kind of right down the middle, and you can you can be kind of both scenarios. Yeah. I can I can only guess at that kind of hope. So what was the team building? Like, I imagine it's fairly important since you're going to be in close quarters with this team for a long time. It was a combination of more or less like lectures on how to cope with frustration. How to resolve conflict? Vocalise disagreement is there's a lot of. Jay says it's a small things. Apparently, this is a known issue. He has like if you have so many people on a small in a small room Garrett towards the end of the year. It's it's the way holds the spin. It's the way he choose potatoes. The small things that really get you're going meet annoy in one of the things you need to is like to recognize that this is not a big deal. And the other thing is to be able to live on site. Looked could you possibly hold a spoon different interest. At some point make the entire atmosphere approach for everyone. And what were some of the tips, you got about what to bring not bring respect a lot of time inside inside. It's sing it sixty five degrees. I'm not sure what you need is building. That is actually quite seminar for when you're inside the station than we go up some very specific kind of similar on the where two by four when we have to. The trick. Everyone told me as as layers layers like don't rely on on one pan to safe you like you wanna have your long on the way, then you wanna have pant that you wanna have a wing break. Did you bring any sentimental mementos with you? You know, things that reminded you of friends and family back home since you knew you weren't going to see them for a year. Just because I am a nature fan amid sure that have like big pictures on posters of trees and stuff that I can put up in my vermin pretend Jesse subsidiv whether than just snow. Lot of things that wouldn't estimate crucial. I really think they will lighten up the mood. I got some it's called Harak, spike. You can call like strands of hair. And if you like this, I mean, this is definitely not must have. But it's been bringing me a lot of joy just to walk around with a trend of pink blue a green hair every now, and then some happy, I have it. What did they tell you about how much you would be able to be outside versus inside? So that nickname allowed to be outside as much as I want practically does get cold. It's cold enough that you want to have your face covered on. Then if you're wearing glasses. What happens you will raise the rest will go up into your glasses? They will fall then they will the fog will phrase, which kind of limits the time it can spend outside. But especially now in some of the sun's up twenty four hours a day. You can. Spend six to eight hours outside. In winter, it's harder. Because the temperatures drop a lot on it gets pulled in. Then you get to the limit your your closing can actually do. But still like, especially when the Aurora Sarut people do spend a lot of time outside. So yet lefties went over told me that he was actually outside every day because they like being outside. What was it? Like when you first landed you landed I in McMurdo right before you went to the ice cube. And what was it like to step off the plane with disarray? Also you fly with like Oma airplanes with the military plane. Actually, don't really have we noticed. So you you kind of blind to what you wear you're getting while you're landing and lending their getting off the in being the ice. But also there's big mountains Nick murder that you can see especially Erebus, which is the active volcano that was meeting. Cool. It was very different from what I. Late on with C at south pool, b is completely flat. It's a it's a big wide flat circus, so that shames from magma to south pole was much more surreal than the changes. I got from New Zealand to McMurdo McMurdo you can steer. You can see mountains. You can say come FOX. It looks like a snow covered countryside accepted. This meeting missing living plants and stuff when you felt that cold for the first time. Did it feel really different is? Is there a specific cold you've now associate with south pole. Yes is like it's a funny feeding when the hair in your nose freeze end. It is something I had never experienced anyone else before let me get. How do you organize your work day? It sounds like you're fairly flexible, and you said you're allowed to God side for as long as you feel comfortable and. The conditions cooperate. And you also have a lot of research. You have to get done. You have to be and you have to be a firefighter near a lot of responsibilities. How how does your day usually unfold come onto priorities? Basically everyone agrees that if there's a fight emergency or firefighting training that takes presence. And then when I have the workday now in summer, basically means that I'm here to support the the scientists that currently here in winter what it's gonna be like, oh, I will be getting up, and I need to be monitoring the experiment than to make sure that every running smoothly. If something goes wrong page to be really fast to get computer as quickly as possible infix on when I say I actually mean way so which repeat doing the same job. I'm we basically alternate on the basis of ping system. So that we can be sure the bay may be able to sleep at least every second week. Is it hard winter so much sunlight to kind of figure out a natural rhythm for when your day begins and ends and how to draw a line between kind of the work day. And when you're off the clock. None of this this. I know that for the first months a half, I would be baffled when I looked outside. Oh, it's bright. It's not that lady. Look at the clock. It's eleven pm. When you're there in the ice cube. You would mention kind of what the ice cube itself looks like, and then are there buildings attached to it where you're living and taking your meals, and that sort of thing or do you have to go outside to go to those buildings. So is cupid dedicated building which is about half a mile away, Gino station, and under general station, host almost everything else. We also have a work area here. So unless you have physical failure inside the inside, the hardware, we don't necessarily need to grow. We have a music room. We have a room on the reading library. In the movie, MS. Well, also, we have communal showers said bathroom as on the rooms are Vietnamese small do you have your own room or do you have to share this is one of the luxuries of suss pool. This for example, not the case in McMurdo. He everyone has their own room, which is really nice. If you want to have some private your time. I mean, that's kind of an interesting aspect. I imagine of this assignment, right? Is that you are living in very close proximity with your co workers, which is not the case for most folks. Right. It's it's definitely interesting in the sense that you get to know them look better than you would later on the only other another of the the work is very segmented. So I have I mean, I share a room where the other scientists. But now, I'm for example, the carpenters at work because they woke so far away from where we work that we only cross ways at lunch and dinner are there. Building activities that continue to take place while you're all they're just to kind of, you know, keep the bonds going from actually gonna have like a second dedicated team billing session on the one who is gonna spend though into prison. What be with the cans on meetings where we can need to just bring up all the issues the Mike coast stanchion, hopefully, resolve them before they cost tensions. What kind of preparation are you going to do for the winter when the sun goes down in is not going to come up for many many months, so one of the big prevalent preparations for doing at the moment is we're digging out all the buildings on. There's a lot of snowdrift over the winter. The other thing is is everyone's gonna leave. So by February fifteenth all the people that only spend the summer here. We'll have left on. We will only be the full two people of spend the winter here on around forty two. Final numbers. Not quite sure. And then there's has been a very long tradition of watching the same by stationed closer. So the free. That's gonna happen is probably that movie. Have you seen the thing before? Or will this be your first time? This will be my first time some quite excited. Temperature apollo. Bless law. Will we? Oh, we make. Maybe we should. Besides the physical preparation logistics that you have to do for the winter. Is there kind of any emotional and mental preparation, they give you since you know, you're not going to get that exposure to light in. It's gonna be potentially. It's gonna feel more isolating. You're a couple of things like we actually can get mailed on here or among the people that spend the winter that they get the mid win to package these packages that packed by people that know you on they send them down you'll in them only on June first when there's the middle of winter until you get something new and exciting in the mid of winters to make the wage until the station be opening a Trojer. I don't know what's in my package, obviously. Because I haven't opened it yet. But I would suspect it's going to be some Chris surly your favorite Speights something because what happens this night, we get all of food provided. For in. It's actually really good food. But you will end up eating the same thing over and over again. And we always have cookies, for example at the station. It's mostly Orioles unwanted mean oils for three months, he wants something different. So away become super exciting. Do you get a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables? Are they kind of off flown in at the beginning of the season in just kept frozen. Or you know, somehow kept fresh solo. I saw an apple today. It was really excited. We get free food in okays, mentally this year has been complicated on your to weather and other things the flights haven't been as frequent as they would normally be probably haven't had fresh vegetables b since Christmas and before that since the end of November awfully, but I do absolutely expect that they will can effort to bring things in before the station coasters. So that we do have some fresh furred at the beginning of winter. A now we actually get to entertain a greenhouse ham. So we will be able to grow salads other aspects of life on the south pole that, you know, have have really surprised you in how much you've enjoyed them or how special they are versus what life is like back home. A lot of things become insanely easy, Hugh, I actually noticed in particular when going back to Mike Mondo since my workplace could Jim might room. The galley are all within two minutes Woking distance you, save an insane amount of. Time on on commuting NIA. I've been the love my active here because I mean, the the people would motivate you to go on what kowtow the people you spend dinner with unusually don't have a good excuse not to join them. Very active here, which has been nice. We have we have a bully group. That's actually playing right now, we have a basketball hoop. That's playing Mondays. We have thought belong lays never participated in. We have a climbing bull, which is really cool on. We have a Batman a up Sundays. They have come to realize that one of the important things is some ways to occupy yourself in win too. Because we don't look twenty four hours a day. And if he would eight hours a day at least sixty hours where you have to do if you sit in darkness is can get depressing Mary fuss. So they they have pulled a very strong emphasis on opportunities to keep yourself. Busy on. This is why we have the gym on the craft room in the movie room. So that we can spend time together I talked to someone who's been venturing full longtime face play in. He said it's been a he's actually disappointed about the internet. Now, what happens is that everyone. Dinner just goes to the room to go on the internet. There's actually very little communal activity compared to than fifteen twenty years ago when there was really nothing else to do than they would use things together. So it's gonna change though. Because the the satellite doesn't come up every day at the same time. It comes up four minutes earlier every day, which means that by much the satellite will be done by six PM. Which might be more interested in doing other stuff. I mean, it might be too early to to say, but do you picture yourself ever going back to a traditional job where you're commuting to an office every day, or do you think that it? It's kinda ruined you for the traditional office setting. The fuck on hop in a came here. It was really sure that once I finish. This job would go back to Germany look for like six job in a office than it would be very happy van just build build a life, and I've already slowly shifted to twelve. Thanks months of traveling bangle Bihack. So a flexible in that sense. I'm pretty sure at some point that will naked up because my anti families. They're all my friends other on miss them. So. I wanna be back. Is there a possibility of returning to the ice cube or their people who do repeat tours? I don't know if you have to reapply 'em kind of every year. But is there a possibility that you could come back if you liked it enough, you would have to reapply on the helping people that have done for assessing none of more than two tours? What is also very common that I only in. Here's people booking the tour here at south pole. And then doing the summer in a on una teams like these communities of very intertwined with prize me as well. I didn't expect it to be so much exchange between those two places. I mean, it must be the most intense bonding experience kind of sharing sharing this time with the colleagues that you have. It's just I can't imagine what that's like must be incredibly bonding is great, especially because you go through team bowling, and you come out with a bunch of friends. I mean, everyone's gonna be a close friend at the end of the year. I'm actually from what I've heard no one's going to be your friend at the end of the year. Once you're off the ice, you'll be allies that that spoons thing was reading the baby can talk to each other. Again. I haven't heard of race of people that will not that poll in ready when they were landing McMurdo. They realized they were both being told big heads on every conciliated immaculate before they made it off the offend Activa. Delegating. You but. It will also. Make use together. Rework is produced by Waylon Wong and me. Sean, Hiller are emusic is broken by design by clip art califor- his help with the story Wilco show notes with links to the ice cube website at rework dot F M. So you can out about neutrinos if you want in season photos of light at the south pole. What is your favorite scene in the thing? My favorite scene. I while. I watched most of my hand covering my face. So the only scenes I really saw were of Kurt Russell pulling on a leather jacket to run outside without zipping it because apparently that is all you need in the south pole of amusing. Now, I like the part head runaway. I think I I think. It goes the stomach opens up in east the that. That was really scary movie. So okay, actually, my I mean, legit my favorite part is that really tense scene when they have what do they do at that? Needle. No. It's an electrical. Listen, electrified needle or something on their futures. Heat up a piece of wire the blood. Yeah. And they're like sticking it into these individual Petri dishes of blood, it's hard to the couch tense. And then like those two guys on the couch are like trying to get away from changing. Yeah. And they look genuinely hysterical. Did I tell you that? I only saw for the first time over the holiday. Yeah. And I think we already discussed we our priorities discusses. But first of all I did not realize until the end of the movie that one of the characters was named windows. I thought that every time they said windows, it was Kurt Russell ordering people to check the windows. As confused. We have this tradition. I think it started in college where the first snowfall in Chicago, not even the first GD week of winter as they say in the movie, I know fallen Chicago we open up the windows put on our big winter jackets for the first time and watch the thing you open the windows yet has to be cold in the living room. You know? So you're talking about a person named windows, your friends with or windows, these sort of the glass things you can you can open from your apartment. All right. I think that's good for things talk. This has been thing. Thing one and thing too. That's good.

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