20 Burst results for "Miles Turner"
"miles turner" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"I think they're probably in the aggregate better than mediocre, but this mix hasn't worked, which makes this off season to me a time when they're obviously going to be pretty active van vliet's going to be likely a free agent. Gary Trent junior, who's coming off the bench now, is going to be a free agent. And they have decisions to make again with Ann and obie, who will be extension eligible pretty soon in the CBA comes into that and all that. But that's the signal to me on them. But they're just like, they're a good team. The offense just hasn't worked. It just the offense and the mediocre, they're 16th and offense, 18th and defense, they're scoring margin is basically dead even for the season. This haven't been that good. The pacers have the easiest, one of the easiest schedules left in the Eastern Conference, which gives them a fighting chance, I think, more so than the projection systems indicate Ben Matthew and got injured last night took a bad fall on his foot. That could change things for them, although they're starting to get stuff from Chris duarte finally. I love watching their team, man. Halliburton is a freaking artist. And miles Turner, miles Turner has had the best totally untalked about season. I guess people don't care about the pacers. Miles Turner has been awesome this season. Everyone knows about the defense. People think of him as this sort of pick and pop spot up shooter, the transformation for him this season and Halliburton deserves credit for this too is he's become much more of a roller rim pressure guy just interior threat than he's been in the past. And they play all these four guard lineups around him. My favorite pacer step, by the way. When they play Halliburton, buddy healed, matheran, who's just a tank. And miles Turner, those four guys. So there are three best veterans if you want to call Halliburton a veteran now. And they're rookie first team all rookie candidate. He's not a rookie of the year candidate and I'm sorry. Ben mathurin. They are plus 12 per 100%. That Quartet plus 94 points in 291 minutes. That's fun, man. That's pretty fun. The pacers are fun. Where they're going, I don't know, because compared to these other rebuilding teams now, they have an all star in Halliburton. Does Halliburton never become a top ten to 12 player in the NBA with that Bill that's going to be tough? And they just don't have the bites at the Apple draft wise that these other rebuilding teams do, especially if they're going to be a decent team, they have Boston's pick this year, Cleveland's pick this year probably Houston's second round pick this year, which is a good pick, but the Boston Cleveland picks are going to be made. And that's it for extra picks. So it's long-term, we'll see, but they are a delight to watch. And I wouldn't be shocked if they make the play and they're not far behind and they have an easy schedule and the evidence suggests there are 500 team with tyrese Halliburton. Yeah. All of which is why I have, I know, it's a tough road, but I do have a certain amount of confidence in them. They are, you know. It's an unproven team. With this configuration right, like it is still like not youth young, but Halliburton has just kind of become this guy over the last year or so and it's, you know, a year plus with the pacers. He was becoming that guy in Sacramento. So there's, you know, like, if it's pressure down the stretch, right? The virtual playoff games that aren't playoff games. The games you have to win just to make the play in and it becomes like a playoff type of intensity or pressure for them. We'll see how they respond to that. But yeah, there's also, as you say, it's truly at its core, a lot of veterans here with, you know, guys like Turner and healed. So I like, I like who the pes are. I think they're fun. I think they're interesting. I think they're promising, you're right, the draft capital and the tools to improve going forward. Once we get to the off season, our difficult, but that's also for an office that I think has been pretty savvy, right? Just acquiring Halliburton in the first place, acquiring sabots and Oladipo for Paul George. They managed to make the right bets when they have to do something dramatic. I like to turn their extension to in the way they structured it to be a balloon payment this year and a pretty reasonable rate going forward. I think that if they ever want to trade him, I think he will have some value on that deal. And look, the lack of draft capital and all this, like part of the reason you get all draft, this draft capital is to get a player like tyrese Halliburton and they got that guy. Already. They have Andrew neb Hart has kind of fallen off a little bit. Aaron nice miss all right. They have a lot of all right, guys. The backup center positions a little bit of a mishmash of Isaiah Jackson and Jalen Smith, but they're well coached, they're fun to watch and they have a star point guard and a rookie in Mather in who has can clearly
Tatum has 31, breaks tie late in OT, Celtics outlast Pacers
"The Celtics control the overtime and the rebounding at a one 42 one 38 win over the pacers. Boston owned a 51 to 37 advantage on the glass, Jason Tatum had 31 points and 12 rebounds for the 43 and 17 Celtics. A good stat line, but you know, really not a really good game, but just for one glad we won and just try to find ways to make plays. Miles Turner tied a career best with 40 points as the pacers Lewis for the 17th time in 20 games. Tom mccabe, Indianapolis
"miles turner" Discussed on Cancelled
"I don't know, you know, it could be somewhat not true. I can imagine just an organization seeing a report or hearing a report like that and maybe asking him to put a little extinguish on extinguisher on the story, you know. Which is very possible or maybe it's possible he wants to stay. I remember when Halliburton got traded there, they said that he was excited to play with him. So I mean, it's possible, but I feel like he knows he's getting moved though, right? I mean, there's been talk of trading miles Turner since before they traded sabonis. So, you know, there's only a matter of times where people can get mentioned in trade talks before eventually the trigger gets pulled. His timeline doesn't fit with Indiana. He's definitely going to get moved. Yeah, I think that he is. And I do wonder if sky maybe you're right that it could be a situation where the pacers say, look, you know, we can't trade you if your trade value is this low. So we need you to kind of push back on this possible, but also you have to remember too. Miles Turner has got to be looking at what's going to get him the next payday. What's going to get him the best contract situation now that we're seeing more and more of the prevailing thought in the NBA is, it doesn't matter what team you signed the contract with. What matters is that you get the contract, then you figure out the team later. That's a factor. Although it could also just be that he's open to staying with the pacers and that's that and there goes a little bit of leverage for the Laker side. I'm sure there are teams that would be interested in training for miles Turner, but I'll ask you guys this. What teams do you think would feasibly go after him? Charlotte was the first one that pops to mind. Well, they just got, they just got Mark Williams, didn't they? Yes, they did. I mean, they've got like a young big that they can develop. What's strange to me is that he hasn't been moved yet because, I mean, even at the trade deadline, the talk was, they want to first round pick for miles Turner. It was something like they want to first round pick or a young prospect or a young prospect and a first round pick. To me, it doesn't seem like that's a very tough ceiling to meet. And you look at what the Mavericks were able to get Christian wood. It almost just seems to me that if there was a team out there that wanted him, they could have had him by now. That's what we've been saying. Miles Turner, that's why I've been pushing back on this whole idea of do the Lakers actually need to give to first. It's just because what is the market value for buddy healed in miles Turner right now? We hear reports that the pacers have got multiple offers for first round pick for either of those guys, then the Lakers obviously have to kick up their offer, right? So far, it's been nothing. I think it goes back to the Jeremy grant valuation and the Christian wood valuation. Because both those guys got less than you would have expected in return for their teams. And I think it's because they need new contracts. And if what they want contractually is not what other teams are ideally wanting to pay, that's going to lower their trade value.
"miles turner" Discussed on Cancelled
"But for the time being until you're at that point, I'm okay with them trying to get the better deal. I think the pacers are going to look to try. I think the pacers are going to move miles Turner before the scene starts. I think that's going to be their goal. And maybe the Lakers can take advantage of that. But of course, the pacers are going to flip it around and say, well, you know, Russell Westbrook. The Lakers want to move him before the season starts because you don't want to bring him in a training camp. But Sean X's and O's wise, how much better are the Lakers? Realistically, if you replace Russ with miles Turner and buddy hill. You're now put giving Darby ham two guys that almost perfectly fit what he's looking for offensively while we think he's looking for offensively. I kind of hint at him. First of all, miles Turner, his ability to stretch out the floor and drag the opposing big out of the paint and be able to knock down threes and dowel out 80 to kind of control the mid range game and download on the block. But then you can just do so many more cool stuff of having miles turning on buddy he'll buddy he'll be in your sniper in the offense. They can really get quality looks. You're assuming maybe that's the effect of having LeBron James and Demi Lovato Anthony Davis on the same floor and then obviously defensively with miles Turner. Him being an anchor and it allows Matt said this as well in the past that miles Turner lost Anthony Davis to not have to do everything defensively. If AD gets switched onto wing, you're not worried about variants and Dave. So crop, I gotta go crash the glass. I could get every rebound because I have 6 5 and under on the floor. You have mom's Turner out there. He can worry about some of those other responsibilities as well. So X is the nose wise, the Lakers are easily a better team. And I think there's more creative things that Darby Hamm is able to do if you throw in a buddy heel to the miles Turner. Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I think it is. It would be a much more enjoyable season, just the question is, what price do you have to pay to get there? And I still think that's below a Kyrie Irving trade that you do that. First and foremost, everybody listening, I am going to bring some people up on stage to discuss some of this stuff. So let me start doing that. We're going to try with siobhan here. And see if we can get you on in, you can post some questions to the group and chat a little bit. Siobhan, how are you doing? I'm doing
"miles turner" Discussed on Cancelled
"They want to get an all star back and you know I know it's unique because some Laker fans will look and say, do you really want Kyrie on your team? But I do think Kyrie gives you the most upside. Miles Turner and buddy hill might be a great fit, but let's not let's not think those two players have the upside or the ceiling of a Kyrie Irving on the Lakers because I think that Kyrie obviously has more of an upside. Now that could work against the Lakers and maybe he's not a great fit and maybe he's not a great teammate, but I do think that it seems like that's the priority and anything else you could find some role players you could find some good fit. You might have to give up draft compensation, but that seems secondary. If anybody knows that sometimes adding a third star does it work, it's the Lakers. But I think Kyrie Irving is a much more natural, much better on court fits, stylistically than Russell Westbrook. So I'm fully in agreement with this strategy of, look, you probably don't do unless you've got an absolute steal. You don't pull the trigger on anything unless you know for sure that Kyrie's not coming. As long as that's a possibility out there, we've got a lot of time until training camp starts up. I think that you wait on the Kyrie Irving situation, but Alan, what about the rest? We've heard about these different possibilities. Utah, I think, is interesting. There's a lot of different players that are making between that ten to $15 million range. There will be classified as veteran players that in theory don't fit into a rebuild, which if they trade Donovan Mitchell, Utah will be heading into. So maybe there's some options there. There's New York. We've heard about stuff around Julius Randle. Of course, the buddy healed miles Turner stuff with the pacers disperse have been mentioned is maybe a third team to get in to a Kyrie Irving trade, maybe using pieces like Josh Richardson, Doug McDermott. Maybe the Lakers can do a direct trade with them. Out of all of those other options, what's at the top of your list. So if I reach number one, what's number two in terms of your preference for the Lakers. So I have some intrigue.
"miles turner" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"That's it. That's the whole list. So how are we feeling after listening to that? How exciting is that free agent class? Not very, right? Not very. And this is why and Keith and I have talked about this on the front office show. This is why I'm looking at this summer as the summer of the trade. Across the NBA, I think we're going to see a lot of trades. I think we're going to see a lot of trades being made because teams are looking at this free agent class and they're looking at it and you're seeing what we just saw together. That's not a lot out there. If you're looking for help on the wings, there's auto Porter junior, you can take a gamble on TJ Warren's knees, that's about it. That's about it. Even Robert Covington already got locked up by the clippers. And that's why the clippers looked at the free agent market and went, oh, if we lose Robert Covington, there's basically no one out here to replace him. So again, I think we're going to see a lot of trades. I think we're going to see a lot of trades, the Lakers, they've got Kendrick nunn, THT, maybe move Russell Westbrook. You've got your future first to potentially use in the right deal. You can absorb some future cap space. That's what you're working with on the trade market. There are some values to be had there. On the free agent market, there are some guys that we identify and looking through here. But as you saw and you heard, if you listen to the podcast version of this, not a lot of those names made you go. That's the guy. That's the Lakers next starting forward, starting center, starting point. You didn't hear a lot of that, right? Super chat coming in from Rome makes Christian wood. Miles Turner, what do you think? Yeah, I like both of those guys. Like both of them. Christian wood, a little bit cheaper. Both expiring contracts after next year, you could get either a moment I'd be happy. In fact, Christian wood is probably the one way that I consider a John wall for Russell weissberg swap is if you could get John wall and Christian wood for Russell Westbrook and THT. That's something that I would consider if I'm the Lakers. I think Christian wood would be a really nice fit next to Anthony Davis. For the same reasons that miles Turner would be in terms of giving you that guy that can shoot from the perimeter of course miles Turner a better shot blocker..
"miles turner" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Here we see one show. What can we get with THT and Kendrick nunn's salaries combined in trades? I'm laughing at some of the other comments that are on here. What can you get to achieve Kendrick nun salaries combined in trades? So THC and Kendrick nunn together, you're talking about about 15 million in salary, depending on who your trading with, let's assume they're above this salary cap. You can probably take back, what would that be? Like 18 ish that you could bring back off the top of my head. So, yeah, I mean, maybe you can get to 19. You'd be close. You're looking for anybody in that salary range, a lot of players you wouldn't be able to get to, some of the guys that you would think of. Like a buddy heel deal. That doesn't work. THC and Kendrick done, they don't make quite enough. But there's some names out there. I mean, miles Turner would be interesting at 18 million. That's a guy that you could get to. There's a few players out there. The question is who's on the block, who actually becomes available and then with the Lakers add to it because right now, THT, most teams don't see them as having a lot of positive value, if any, and then Kendrick Don didn't play last season, so he's just going to be salary. So you're essentially just sending out contracts, 15 ish million interested contracts, what can you do to get talent for that to get value for that? You're going to have to attach picks and things to it. So that's where it becomes a big question mark. What are you willing to add to THT and Kendrick nunn to get a guy that you think is going to help you? And before the chat starts mentioning, we should get miles Turner. I don't think that's going to happen. Especially because they traded sabonis at the deadline in a deal which they absolutely ripped off the kings. But I don't think that's going to happen, but miles Turner would be an ideal. We were talking about this earlier, miles Turner would be an ideal fit next to Anthony Davis because he can stretch the floor and knock down three as well. Also protect the rim on the defensive end as well. So that's kind of the mold of player if you want 80 at the four to slot next to Anthony Davis unless he fixes that jump shot which is. Somebody said Dudley for a head coach. I like Jared Dudley a lot. I don't know if he's maybe he's spent a season as an assistant coach in Dallas, but I don't know if that's the last I talked to Jared Dudley. He was going back and forth. There was a couple of years ago. He was going back and forth between coaching and being in a front office. He knew he wanted to be involved in basketball once he was done playing, but he wasn't sure which path he wanted to go down yet. So it's not like rondo I feel like has been locked in on being a coach for years now. I mean, not decades. A Jared Dudley has kind of been floating between ideas more. But I would be opposed to him at some point being the head coach. I don't know. And he would be better to answer this, but I don't know if he's if he feels like he's quite there yet. Yeah, and I honestly think. Oh my gosh, we could pluck Jared Dudley as an assistant next year. I would love that as well. A head coach, I'm not sure yet. For the reasons you mentioned. Yeah. All right, let's do one more, and then we will call it an afternoon. We will head off to the weekend..
"miles turner" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Hire, you need indeed. Another big man that's out for the year. Miles Turner for the Indiana Pacers. And of course, you know, when we say out for the year, it sounds, it sounds awful. It sounds like, oh my gosh, he's out for the year, but there's just not that much time left in the year. So the pacers deciding, you know, we're just going to hold miles Turner out for the remainder of the season. Yeah, you do. It's not even is he ready to get on the floor or not. It doesn't make sense for them to put him on the floor, particularly if they do have an eye towards potentially trading him this off season. I mean, the worst thing is you put them on the floor and then he suffers another injury, yeah, that's not the position the pacers want to be in. So it makes total sense for them not to play him for the remainder of the season and instead to look ahead to this summer and beyond. Yeah, and we talked, I feel like it probably a month ago, hey, this might be a good opportunity to get them out there. When it sounded like he was coming back, get them out there with the guys they acquired at the trade deadline, see what that could look like. Put them together. But they're 7 games left. That's not enough of a long for it to be worth it. So you just, you know, you'll get that look to soft season and go into next year with whatever your new iteration of your team looks like. My guess is I don't even think it's a really good guess. They're going to try to rebuild this thing on the fly. They get back to being a playoff team. Next season. So we'll see whether bound starter is a part of that or not. My guess is at least initially he will. And they do sign Justin Anderson on a ten day contract. So they'll bring him in just a Anderson. He feels like he's been, he's been everywhere..
"miles turner" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"We'll revisit this off season if he's healthy, but the foot injury might also be the only reason the Lakers are able to afford him, right? So maybe the pacers are saying, we're not too sure about this injury, and we don't really want to wait until the off season. We don't want to figure that out later. Let's just trade him now. And the Lakers might be able to say, well, we're willing to take that risk for THT none and the first. And that all of a sudden becomes a better offer than what some other teams who are more hesitant may be offering. So that's kind of this might be your only chance to get a guy like him with what you have. That's sort of how I see it and I think it's worth the gamble. He's a young player. I think he'll recover just fine. Again, not a doctor. We talked about this in the last in our video about Kendrick nunn. Doctor. But I think he'll be just fine. And I think that's a worthwhile risk. If you're if you're the Lakers, is miles Turner or just forget miles away. It's just a big, is that really what you need right now as a team? Or would this just be a this is a gettable talent upgrade, even though he isn't exactly what the team needs at this moment. Yeah, I think, yeah, big man, it's tough, right? Because centers, you don't want to give up a ton of assets for centers. You have Anthony Davis, who when he's at his best, as he has been, that's your center, and you have one of the best centers in the league. But miles Turner sort of gives you a similar identity to what they had when they won the championship, which is swarm teams in the pain suffocate them. Don't even let them get a shot up and then run. And I think miles Turner is like one of the very few centers in the league that fits that description where he can swallow you up at the rim. He's gonna stop any shots to block anything. And then he's fast enough to get down the court and hit a spot up three in the corner or get to the rim. This is kind of like what he does and he's obviously not this, he's not like a game changer best player and he's just he's a really solid center that does a lot of things that would help the Lakers. I like the talent. If I had my choice though, I'm looking for a wing. I think that's what the Lakers need most is another big wing of movie song. I mentioned the success of Trevor ariza. In recent game against the Knicks, I think the Lakers need even more wing depth. You've got Stanley Johnson you've got Trevor ariza Carmelo Anthony battling an injury, LeBron can play on the wing, but they're also asking him to play the 5. I think you need more wing depth. So if the Lakers and they may not have the choice here, but if the Lakers have a choice between a wing and a bag like a miles Turner, I'm leaning wing. I think if we forget the names of the players who are out there and just say, what is it the Lakers need? I think you need a wing player who can play defense and shoot threes, which it's hard to find. A lot of teams are looking for that. But and by wing, I mean, a guy who could potentially float even between the four and the 5 would probably be ideal..
"miles turner" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"For lane on an Instagram at Trevor lane NBA, joined by Keith Smith, follow him on Twitter at Keith Smith NBA, as I said, this is the first the original NBA front office show, Keith, how are you doing, man? Good, man. I went and got a haircut today, and I'm feeling good. Feeling fresh and ready to go. Let's kick things off with a little miles Turner. Miles Turner, we talked about him yesterday. The pacers had kind of set their asking price, looking for a couple of first round picks, maybe a promising young player and a first round pick. Now I wonder if they're gonna get anything. Miles Turner on the shelf dealing with a stress reaction in his foot and he's gonna be out through the trade deadline now. What does this do to the pacers prospects of moving him? Yeah, I think what this change is if you are the acquiring team is you have to think about this more as a deal for next season and beyond, then really for much for this, the rest of this season in the playoffs because you don't know what you're gonna get. Anytime it's a big man and it's a foot injury. The timetables never seem to go the way you think they're going to. A lot of times you see the other guys, they're going to be out 6 to 8 weeks and they're back within 68 weeks. Sometimes these big guys I mean, as we're kind of going through Zion, I fully realize completely different situations as far as the way they're built. But a lot of times these big guys with these foot injuries, it turns into. You know, two to four weeks turns into 6 to 8 turns into 12 turns into the end of the season. So I think if I was another team now, I am kind of sitting here looking and saying, well, one of the dogs is Roman through the background character. You got to start to think about, all right, we interested in next season and beyond with Turner, we looking at this being a long-term relationship. And if it is, that probably doesn't change much for you because then you're really saying, all right, well, whatever we get this year is a bonus and go, if you were looking for as more of a, hey, we'll have them for the rest of this year and then just next year. This probably causes you to maybe rethink and drop out. And you may have a few teams that are fully scared off entirely saying, I just don't even want to deal with it. I'm out all together..
"miles turner" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Western Conference, but with one trade, they could push themselves up potentially into another tier if they can really get things running, but it's not going to be easy. There's going to be some specific contracts they have to move. So look, I guess let's start with miles Turner. Keith, there's been a lot of buzz around miles Turner and the Mavs there's been this link for a few seasons now. Do you think he's a good fit there? I mean, I guess you would just have all the arms if you put porzingis and Turner on the floor together. Yeah, I worry how you're going to rebound. Yes. Because those two guys, despite their size or notoriously poor rebounders, but you do have to factor and you get a lot of rebounding out of Luca in that position. Maybe you are able to keep somebody else around that can hit the glass. I think you would really want a third big, that's kind of more of a rugged option in there that you can kind of throw in there. But as Mark Stein noted, in guys, subscribe to his newsletter. He's got a good stuff in there. And it's free on once a week. And that's where he dropped all the good trade tidbit stuff. He denoted that they're in on both Turner. And it's slipping my mind. John Collins. So it kind of makes some sense, right? I guess. I clearly think Collins is the far superior player. I think he's just a much better player than miles Turner is. But I think I get it for Dallas. If you're looking to, what do we need to pay our next to porzingis? Well, it's a guy who can really rebound, which that would be Collins. Or someone who can protect him a little bit with some shop blocks and I would be Turner. Turner used to playing with another big. Now poison gets different big from sabonis, of course, because he's more perimeter based, where sabonis does a lot of his work inside. But I get it, as you mentioned, though, there are some challenges. Teams are super interested in Dorian Finney Smith and Jalen Brunson, who are both pending free agents.
"miles turner" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"2000. Let's see, Bruce Barnes, the size and spacing of a Westbrook LeBron areza Anthony Davis and Christian wood lineup would be interesting. That's a lot of size. You're talking about what LeBron basically as your two? Or ariza as your two? I do wonder if they can small quick guards could take advantage of that, but. Orlando said, if no to Jeremy grant, then I would do THT, none and picks for miles Turner. I think miles Turner is an interesting target as well. But if the Lakers are dead set on going small, that would go against that. But he's an interesting one. A guy that the Lakers have been connected to for a few seasons now. Yeah, also my other drawback is something you say in the past that the pacers have realized that him and sabonis don't really work well on the court at the same time. So what incentive do you have to get is the different scenario but what instead do you have putting him in AD on the floor at the same time, especially down the stretch? So, yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Miles Turner, somebody mentioned miles Turner is $18 million. Yeah, do you want to pay $18 million for a guy that you may not want to put in the game in crunch time because you're going small, and that's something we've talked about here on this show before. Born stutter alpha said, what if Christian Woods said he only wants to go to LA? Well, I mean, he's under contract, so it's not like it's not like he's going to be a free agent this next season and then he would have a little bit more leeway, right? Because I don't know, let's say, since this was the team that went after Anthony Davis. Let's say the Celtics called up the rockets and said, hey, we want to trade for Christian wood. Christian wood could just make it known, hey, yeah, you guys can trade for me, but I'm not going to resign with you. That's what AD did to the Celtics. They wanted to trade for him. And Anthony Davis just said, well, okay, but I'm not going to stay. As soon as I'm a free agent, I'm going. So then, obviously, they weren't willing to give up major pieces. Christian wood though still has, I believe another year under contract after this. So that eliminates a little bit of his strength in the negotiation in terms of dissuading teams from trading for him. He could still do it. He could still say, well, I really want to go to this team. If you trade for me, I'm going to leave as soon as I can. I wouldn't be happy. He can try to influence it a little bit, but it's not like he's.
"miles turner" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Would say, where do I sign? Right? He's right here. Does that then make it easier to go pursue a trade? Now again, Kendrick nun has not been a factor of this season because he hasn't played. He came off a health and safety protocols, but he's still dealing with the bone bruise. They're not expecting to see him until January. I know the Lakers were excited about signing him. But if you're getting, even if you're getting 85% of what you thought you were going to get out of Kendrick nun, does that make it just a little bit easier to package? Taylor Horton Tucker and Kendrick dawn and go get something. I wonder, I wonder, especially if it's like a two for one trait. People mentioning Jeremy grant, people mentioning miles Turner, people mentioning Christian wood. Does it make it a little bit easier to go get one of those guys if you know that with the extra roster spot, it's going to go to Isiah Thomas who's going to give you kind of what you thought you were going to get out of Kendrick nunn. And again, I can't give a definitive yes right now. Because we're two games in. We're two games into this Isiah Thomas ten day thing and all of that. But two games in he's already a starter, and I know the Lakers are an emergency situation, right? Again, they had four players that are regular rotation players tonight. So very strange times. It's not like Isiah Thomas came in played one game and then got promoted to the starting lineup of a fully healthy team. But still, they started him. They had him in during big moments. And so you got to wonder moving forward, if this continues, does this make it a little bit more likely that the Lakers find a trade? I think it's interesting. I'm not saying and again, I'm not ready to say yes. But it's something I think we got to keep an eye on with IT, because a lot of what he's doing out there, it's the stuff the Lakers we're going to look for from Kendrick nunn..
"miles turner" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Crazy stuff that they've had. And like you said this year, some of that stuff is actually worked out. Miles Turner has been really great. And if you're thinking about what miles Turner's people say to him, I guarantee you they say this because players are already overwhelmingly confident and then they have people in their ear that make them more confident. If your miles Turner, I guarantee you, people have been in his ear saying, man, as soon as they trade sabonis or as soon as you get traded somewhere else, and you don't have to worry about playing next to this dude and playing off the student this dude having the ball, you're going to be a superstar. I guarantee they've been telling him that. And so he speaks with the confidence of someone that's been told that. And I guarantee you someone has told him that. And I guarantee that when all these teams, all of a sudden are interested in trading for him, that it probably boosts that part of his thinking even more. So I get what you're saying. He's not going to be an all star. Doesn't matter what team he goes to. Rotational role player is a little bit strong to say that, but he's way closer to that than he is doing like the star of a franchise. It's abundantly clear. And I've said this, I wrote this about him. He's a fascinating player. It's not to diminish him as a player at all. I think he's like a fringe defensive player of the year candidate normally leads the league in blocks or is very close to it. But he's had and I wrote this story last year before I got to SI, he has had essentially the most static box score in line in the league, like every year you can mark him down for almost exactly 13 points a game, 7 boards. Three blocks, an assist and a half. His shooting percentages are normally static. I will give him credit that this year, he's been fantastic, shooting the three, so he's like up at 40% or slightly above slightly below 40% this year. That is a career high for him. That's great and it's improvement for him. We'll see if it stays that way. But it's crazy because the guy has a 40 point game and then it's wonderful as that isn't as impressive as that is, he still ends up at the same 13 points bringing him no matter what. I don't care how many points this guy scores the game before. It's always going to be the same average. So you kind of know what you're getting with him. And I think that that is with sabonis and lineup. It's wind Turner is out there by himself. You know, and defensively, you know what you're getting, but offensively, it's just kind of the same thing. All the time, you know what you're getting with that too. So the trade value is what it is. I think he could get back a lot for you, I think. But I don't think you're going to win a title because of him with this roster with him.
"miles turner" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Just given the upside that James wiseman possesses, you know, I had Anthony slater on the podcast last week and he said that ownership with the warriors is still very, very committed to James wiseman and he would be stunned if they moved him. I think the warriors have other assets that they could move in a deal for miles Turner if they really wanted to do so. Like I said, if you go out and you get Moses moody and something else for miles Turner, I don't know that you're doing a whole lot better than that. You go out and you get Jonathan menga from miles Turner. I don't think you're probably not doing better than that. Maybe something with like depending on if you like PJ Washington more, I can see that, but the warriors have the assets to where if they really wanted to take a swing for miles Turner and they really wanted to include James wiseman. I think they probably win the title if they get miles Cerner because we were talking about having a stretch 5 that is elite defensively mixing with draymond green that's a terrifying like that starting lineup is then Stephen Curry, one of Jordan Poole or Andrew Wiggins, depending on what you want to do there, Klay Thompson, draymond green and miles Turner and I don't know how anyone scores on them and then they're gonna be absolutely elite offensively at that point. I mean, I actually, I like kavan Looney. I think that he's like, he just does all the little things that don't necessarily translate in a box who are, but going from command Looney to miles Turner is quite the upgrade. And we still don't know. I think everyone loves to throw out and you know better than anybody like the wiseman ceiling and sort of the Deandre ayton comparison and some of the development that Deandre made last season. But we don't know that James wiseman is going to become that and I kind of view the warrior situation as I know they've talked about being sustainable and contending for the next 20 years and well first off steps not playing the next 20 years. So you have that window of 5 years. How long is Steph staff? And he has the early career injury, history, so you don't know when that stuff pops up again if it ever does. But you look at a guy like Steve Nash and how elite he was deep into his 30s. I guess that's like the blueprint for stuff. But I do think and I think as we transition into the Lakers, the Lakers kind of tried to go all in..
"miles turner" Discussed on Premium Hoops
"Atlanta. I really doubt it like i. I don't think atlanta was just a fluke to me Miami has gotten so much better or not so much. That was maybe a little bit exaggerated but like they. I mean you had jimmy missing a bunch of time last year to start the year and came back after dealing with culver and he struggled to start. I think miami's going to be better and have a bounceback your next year. Chicago has gotten better and i would say. Chicago's a better team than indiana right now. The knicks are probably. I have indiana the nixon like right around the same category like tier three and a half wherever you want to call it and you could say. Maybe boston will be better. Maybe not i still think. Charlotte has a potential to be a playoff team this year. Washington it just depends. I know spencer dinwiddie sign there. That hasn't been finalized yet. So i don't wanna be to gung ho about it. I don't know how toronto yet because our is pascal stock going to be there is not going to be there. We really don't know that that's it's like toronto. Could go in any direction. They could stay exactly other doing like they might not change up there at all. It doesn't seem like that's the case. But i'm not sure but point being like as much as i like the talent on this indiana team. I just think it is clear that they need to make a change in regards to their one of the centers like i. I try really hard to stray away from this especially covering the team Because i do get frustrated in and we can't just talk about them without always talking about having a trade them. Miles turner's name has been thrown around in trays for four years now Both him and modest bonus. Incredible players Very good players. Who are both above average centers. Demonise was all star. Miles turner is a guy who i think. If you've been healthy the slasher would have been deservingly..
"miles turner" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"I can move the basketball at the Five Spot, which I think they value a little bit. I think it. I'm not saying in, you know, I think we went maybe a little too overboard with the Miles Turner thing. You know, at One Direction of like, oh man, like it's Myles Turner, even that good like they, yeah, Milestones are good. We can blocks. Yeah, you know what do you mean the Celtics better last year? You know, probably, you know, how much better? I don't know. But they would at least had a, you know, big man presence in the middle that they sorely missed wage. The entire season. But I think Horford just the way he fits with this team and and and knows these guys. Like I think the familiarity means a lot more than just having a young Greek athletic guy in Turner who makes more money than corporate anyway. So I think it's, I mean, I like, I like monster, but he's not the guy. I'm looking to add at this point. If I'm the subject to this this roster, I don't think a lot of sense. Yeah. I, I don't think, you know, and that word Edge, when I think of edgy, I don't think of Miles Turner. I just know, you know, I mean, she gets blocks you get, you know, he gets that but he's not well in defensive rating to like, he, you know, net rating, that type of thing, you know, into the analytics. So he's a, he's a good Defender. I mean, let's, let's not discount as ability on that into the floor. You know, whether he's as good a Team Defender. As, as Al Horford, I honestly have no idea. I haven't dug into those metrics, but birth. I just think sort of the, the cost-benefit analysis of the whole thing and the fact that he's, you know, he's a young vet, he's what, twenty-four twenty-five years old and he's been the league, you know, a handful of years durability. It's been a month or just the last couple of Seasons. But yeah, I mean I I think he's a fine player, I just I wasn't Google for him, you know, last year, and I'm not this year either. I mean, you've already got a guy with durability issues, who you're hoping finally gets through that. Well, you're going to add another big, the same kind of. Yeah, I'm not sure how much of a match that big talking points Mark over weeks really, hang on before it. Before we move on here, I was, I'm sorry I'm cutting in here at about. I just want to bring this up and I know that we're going to look at counting stats and say with Myles. Turner is better with counting stats than probable reason. For that. As he plays way more, you know per game, you got the per 36 minutes, end up current 36in per 100 possessions wage Rob actually, you know, kind of pans out a little bit better than mild started. / 36 miles, terrorists 14.6 points, seven rebounds, 1.2 is Choice, one, steal, and 3.9 Blocks Games, pretty Elite right? And he shoots threes Rob doesn't so that, you know, helps them out a little bit. He shoots 34%, from 3 out of 5 attempts per 36,000 mile, Rob 15.2 points a game. 13 rebounds per 36 versus but 7.6 assists. 33.4 assists-per-game 1.6 steals per game, and he's not too far behind in blocks of 3.3 /, 36. Then if you go to the, you know, per 100 possessions, Rob's numbers, both offensive rating and defensive Rainier, better 139 offensive rating, 105, or defensive rating vs Myles. Turner One, 12 and 108 so like they kind of already have someone that's already but if you know where it where he totally agree, totally and Mark brought this up wrong..
Joel Embiid Scores 45 Points, Carries Philadelphia Sixers To Overtime Win Against Miami Heat
"Joel embiid forty. Five points and sixteen rebounds. The sixers hung on to beat the heat in overtime. Danny green matched the scissors record with nine threes. He scored twenty nine. Mike scott added sixteen in the win. Elsewhere the pacers held off steph curry and the warriors one. Oh four hundred. Ninety five to indiana improved to seven and four on the season miles turner at twenty two and twelve for the pacers steph curry finished with twenty four golden
"miles turner" Discussed on Premium Hoops
"Curls means either attacking the basket. He's elevating he's driving and making one past you know they're putting him in position succeed and he's been incredible as ron numbers. Twenty seven game for full four boards three assists and his fishes aegis through the roof is true shootings at sixty five percent. I mean just absurd. There's gonna be some regret that good. He's knocking is that good. I can't shoot this. Well definitely not but also i do have to say. I don't know what the i was saying with that statement about jason. Jason tatum stephanie. Better player but he has been asked to do lot which is kind of you know. We'll see what happens with him on every this year. Yeah he's been having a bit of a tough time of ball handling wise but now i- jalen has been awesome to me. He's a. I think a lot of people think at tj warren. They're like always just an ice. Well god or something like that and he gets the ball and isolates all the time honestly. Jaylen brown is like a more athletic. Tj warranty me in terms of player. Archetype and what he does comes off a lot of sets that are generated for him to get easier shots that worked for him and he's just more athletic like i don't know jaylen brown's been awesome. And unless you have anything else to add. I do have another player. One talk about mile. Turner in terms of raw statistical production. Miles turner has taken a leap. He's averaging like thirteen and seven right now but like a ridiculous is averaging five point two stocks because he's just been absurd on the defensive end right now in terms of players watching i mean i think if i had to make a shortlist for defensive player of the year it'd be joel embiid and myles turner. Miles has been amazing defensively. He has been that for a couple years but he's taken a step this year. i think even but what stands out as offensively. He just doesn't seem lost anymore. Which is amazing. I mean the three that he took yesterday to send the game to overtime like if he gets the ball in that situation last year. You probably pass the ball out. Or he hesitates on it. And i i wouldn't say whether or not he misses it but at the same time like you would hesitate on it. And he's he's done the hardest thing to do in basketball which is to become a quicker decision maker. Like our friend and colleague evans out. You wrote a fantastic piece on feel in basketball and feel was always milestones problem and he seems to have really figured out he spacing to three so much better any spacing inside the paint way better than he ever has his effectiveness on cuts and just getting to the rim and general transition to has been remarkable to see. I implore anybody. I'm probably gonna write an article on it in the next week or two. If it continues to hold up which. I'm expecting it will It's just been awesome to see because things have really clicked for him. The thing is always been the statement that people put his the idea of miles. Turner is better than actual milestone. And it's getting to the point now. We're actual milestone is just as good as ideal miles turner because he's taking a ton of threes and he's doing a ton of stuff off closeouts which has always been the kind of goal and fought what miles could be in. He's getting there he's been he's been impressive. So what do you got to watch and the to two celtics games. What have you a mile so far he. He has a special rim protector like he. He doesn't even have to jump to just absolutely terrified at the rim. That first boston game three drives at the rim regina.
Did Boston Celtics Overplay Their Hand?
"Boston. Overplay its hand. There were a lot of reports in the hours. Leading up gordon hayward signing that the celtics and the pacers were discussing a sign and trade gary washburn over the boston globe. He suggests that the pacers were willing to throw in miles. Turner the celtics water a miles. Turner plus package whether it's miles. Turner and tj warren or miles turner and victoria depot. That that that celtics package seemed to highly unlikely to be something the pacers would go for. Tj warrant is coming off a monster performance in the bubble and victor oladipo for all his injury issues. last year is still an all star level player. You don't give up to players of that caliber to get a player. That play like gordon hayward frankly so the celtics. They didn't walk away with nothing because they do have tristan thompson. Now they do have jeff teague. But i can see jeff how miles turner would goodness celtics uniform. And the guy is a three point shooting mobile shot-blocking big man. He's not perfect. He's been called soft before there's questions about positional fit. But something tells me brad. Stevens could do well with versatile. Big man who can shoot three pointer. I i just. I wonder if we'll look back on this in a year and wonder if the celtics overplayed their hand because miles turner in addition to all the things i said he's got a reasonable contract by nba standards anyway. Eighteen million dollars per year over the next three. What do you think of that. Do you think there's a chance the celtics overplayed their hands here. I don't know. I don't think so. Crass t taking a slightly different tact on it. Because i wasn't all that a or the whole idea of only getting mile turner back in the deal. I understand everything you just said But the celtics certainly just made a a decision that that's what they were looking for excitement. Lucy gordon hayward elsewhere without getting any say return on. I don't mind that trying to get a little bit more in it. Not working out for them and again. I'm hearing all your points what you're saying about mouse. Turner but that's something maybe dearly age his staff. I'm not saying you're gonna go out and find another mouse. Turner application that production with a couple of different players here and there and whether it ends up being some kind of combination of daniel thais and looking down the bench and seeing what happens off from that point I just wasn't sure that you know. Look indiana if you really wanna gordon hayward i think you had to force them to really make you pay for it and i don't say that do would you come down to it. The pacers were willing to give up that much and so that sure indicates how much that they really wanted. Gordon hayward i'm fine with the celtics student what they did now. You could be ultimately correct. They may regret not adding that kind of player. Especially we get into the playoffs split I agent it is staff are more than willing to let that ride. It see if they can't come up with that kind of a similar player through the course of use it a couple of different players and seeing what they can do at the trade deadline. Yeah they did get tristan thompson. Which is exactly what they need in on that front line. They've got the more athletic up perimeter shooting floor spacing kind of guy. You've got robert williams who is athletic shop locked they didn't have the physical rebounding tough guy. And that's what tristan thompson is brings championship experience to that team which i think will be a valuable addition and jeff teague is fine. He's not a starter anymore. But you're not asking him to basically kemba walker insurance down there in case kennedy's to take time off that knee injury so it wasn't. It wasn't a failure of an off season for boston. I just. I wonder how we look at this this summer. The summer this fall we look at a couple years