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Case #24 Anneliese Michel
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Ooh it does doesn't app yeah so we'll keep keeping with that hollywood theme. Let's jump right in analyst mikhail was born in germany on september twenty one of nineteen fifty two. She grew up in a devoutly <unk>. Somewhat extreme catholic family pictures taken of her during childhood show a vibrant pretty girl on her way to becoming a gorgeous woman she had shining black hair an open honest face and a stunning smile by the time she was twenty three years old. She was emaciated heavily bruised scarred and deranged arranged. She was supposedly taken over by demons and fought for nearly eight years before finally losing her battle with evil later. Her death was labeled. Negligent didn't homicide but was there anything anyone could have done for analyst mikhail or those who are with analysts really fighting satan <music> <music> <music> <music> four. Here's before analyst was born her mother. Anna mchale gave birth to an illegitimate daughter. This was a source of shame for the catholic family. After she married and gave birth to analysts she apparently harbored feelings of guilt about her first daughter. Unfortunately annelies is older sister. Sister died at the age of eight but annelies reportedly felt like she needed to repent for her mother sin. She supposedly spent much of her time doing penance for her mother sinful youth and bad priests. Emily's is supposed symptoms of possession began in nineteen sixty eight when analysts was sixteen. She suddenly blacked out at school. Began walking around dazed though analysts did not remember the event her friends and family said she was in a trance dance like state her body also went through a series of convulsions causing her body to shake uncontrollably. The symptoms were are convulsions and they were benchley diagnosed as epilepsy by neurologist a year later annelies experienced a similar occurrence where she woke up in a trance and wet her bed after the second time analysts visited colleges who diagnosed her with temporal lobe at blip see a a disorder that causes seizures loss of memory and experiencing visual and auditory hallucinations temporal lobe epilepsy can also cause gish wind syndrome a disorder marked by hyper religiosity which is a psychiatric disturbance in which a person experiences intense religious beliefs or experiences that interfere with normal functioning interesting so kind of like o._c._d. But for religion or almost i would almost say it's like schizophrenia. Oh yeah that's intense. Annelies mikhail took medicine for her condition and continued her life to the best of her ability. She finished high school and went on to college where she studied to become a teacher and apparently the medicine was not helping her much because her problems only got worse over time analyst at least mikhail complained of seeing disturbing visions while saying her prayers she began to see the face of the devil wherever she went and said she heard demons siemens whispering in her ears when she heard demons telling her she was dammed and wood rot in hell while she was praying she concluded that the devil must be he possessing her finally analysts began showing an inversion to religious iconography an older woman. A friend of the mikhail family noticed noticed this while on a pilgrimage with annelise. She said that annely smelled hellishly bad and took her some priests. Many of them said had analysts needed a doctor. However one eventually said analyst needed an exorcism an exorcism was eventually granted. Ed analysts delusions had become extreme believing she was possessed. She ripped the clothes off her body. Compulsively performed up to four hundred squats day crawled under a table embarked like a dog for two days she also eight spiders and coal l. bit the head off of dead bird and lift her own urine from the floor and nineteen seventy five analyst mikhail and her parents appearance stopped seeking medical advice and gave over analysts's fate to the roman exorcism ritual annelies the priests and our parents truly believed does she was possessed. Analyst mikhail herself said that judas narrow hitler cain lucifer and others were inside of her over the next ten months father arnold wrens and pastor ernst alt- performed sixty-seven sixty-seven exorcism for the tormented girl. It's important to note that every action taken during these rituals were condoned by analysts. Sometimes the seriously ill annelies would perform hundreds of genuflections during these rituals and for those of you like me who did not know at that man. It's win you basically meal and stand up you know helen catholic churches. They do the kneeling and standing for however many times they do that. That's when genuflection as just welcome back. It's rumored that her parents even held her up for the genuflections when she came to week to do it herself. It's not hard to imagine this being necessary given that. Emily stopped eating altogether for some time before she died. She believed it would lessen the evils control over her. Their claims that annelies spoke several different the front languages or the demons and evil souls that possessed her did during the exorcisms are really encourage you to look up. Some of the recordings recordings of this on the internet will provide some on our website but when i say this is truly horrific i mean i'm probably going to have nightmares about how all of this for a while and owned out that for a second. We're gonna play a short clip of it right here but be warned. This is not for younger kurt listeners and like i said it's terrifying and why he <music> who <music> <music> yeah i listen to that and dan freaked myself out. It is certain that medicine was not saving analyst mikhail from whatever tormented her mm-hmm but there is no questioning that things got worse for her when she gave herself over to exorcism she allegedly urinated undesignated on the floor more frequently and like i said she looked up her own urine off the floor. She insects growl that religious icons and sat under the kitchen table barking for two days as previously mentioned shirley her family was afraid of her but a medical professional probably would not have left her under the table for two days or let her starve to death which is eventually what she did. Analysts mikhail it died of dehydration and malnutrition on july first nineteen seventy six the twenty three year old woman weighed sixty eight pounds at the time of her death yosef mikhail her father and mikhail and the two exorcists were eventually charged with negligent <unk> homicide during the trial evidence of the possession worked both for and against the defence forty two of the exorcisms were audio recorded and there were various pictures of a seriously ill looking bruised and sore covered annelies analysts is horrifying trying in these tapes which works for the defense that she was possessed but a certainly not conclusive if nothing else the tapes made it clear that analysts was seriously ill and no one was making her eat. It is certain that possessed or not analysts should have been cared for better. There's no no way to prove or disprove supernatural occurrences such as exorcisms that makes it difficult to know what really happened to miss mikhail however however it is possible to prove that there is some evidence that epileptics are at an increased risk of displaying symptoms of schizophrenia and it has been posited that mikhail suffered from disassociate of personality disorder and schizophrenia that combined with her religious background could easily account for the events leading to her death but one can never be truly certain of what really happened to analyst mikhail this week for farside cares we want to shed light on schizophrenia and how that affects not only the people who are suffering from that but their families as well so an honor of that we would like to showcase schizophrenia <music> alliance. This is a self help group for persons who have schizophrenia or a schizophrenia related illness essay was founded in in the detroit area in july of nineteen eighty five and since that time thousands of people have participated in meetings there are currently more than one hundred read the fifty groups meeting her out thirty one states as well as australia brazil canada mexico france india end venezuela. The statement of purpose for schizophrenia lions is that they've organized and managed by persons experiencing schizophrenia aena or related disorders. It is administered in partnership with the s._r. d._a. The schizophrenia alliance statement of purpose is as follows to help restore dignity and sense of purpose for persons who are working for covering from schizophrenia ah or related disorders if you would like to learn more about this organization. Please feel free to check out their website at w._w._w. W._w._w. dot s. a. r. d. a. dot org so guys if this episode was your jam mm-hmm make sure you're subscribed so that you're notified every single monday of our new episodes you can find them on itunes or spotify or you can visit our website at w._w._w. Mute dot farside chats dot com also go take a second and rate us because every single rating helps us spread the word the more ratings. We have the more listeners. There's like you can find us and if you've already rated us thank you so much but go tell all your friends about us because we need more people to listen as always you can find us on or facebook and instagram so go over there and like comment and shares them inspiration ed or always on the hunt for new interesting stories so let us know if you have any in. We're dossier <music> <music> endless mckay. She began to see the face of the devil wherever she went and said she heard demon whispering demons multiple holding mon. Not i just one month just one. It was a lot over the next ten months <unk>. It's rumored that her parents held up blue. The little certain that met it is certain that medicine was not saving saving analysts mikhail from whatever tormented her one but one can but one can ever are related illnesses loyalists episode complete.
4. The Man in the Cage
"This is the story of the biggest theft in history. The big steel of the resources of the biggest country in the world Russia. By its own government Kremlin. Click THE RUNS. The country like his own personal bank at of bandits. It's also the story of how Russia is using every part of its state machinery and a war. Many of his don't even realize his taking place to subvert. Democracy worldwide in episode four of Vladimir Putin lays down his mark. One by one by one is darks went to Putin and said Vladimir. What do we have to do? So we don't have it in a cage is real simple fifty percent. I'm governor slur and in the big steel telling the extraordinary story of how in one generation Russia went from communism to kleptocracy at its heart high. The Russian government stole the country's biggest oil company you cost from its shareholders and put his helm in jail for ten years. The cough ski sentenced to nine years in prison for fraud into exhibition. It's a conviction that raised eyebrows throughout much of the West because quarter Kofsky had been a longtime political rival of President Putin the principal beneficiary of the big steel is Russia's President Vladimir Putin and his behavior is ruthless. If we look at the spate of assassinations this problem with violence. We begin episode four with an extraordinary scene. It's June two thousand four eight months. Since Mikhail Khordokovsky Russia's richest man and the brains behind it star performing oil company. Yukos was arrested at gunpoint in his private jet in Siberia. He's traded his luxury home for a cage in Moscow. Courtroom Kofsky was I. The authorities wanted him as a witness in a criminal investigation once in Moscow. He finds he himself is being charged with fraud and tax evasion. Then he's put in front of television cameras in a cage in a Moscow courtroom like a scene from a show trial of the Stalin era in the nineteen thirties. -demia Cottam Mussa is a Russian opposition politician and democracy activist author and filmmaker he recalls clearly the dramatic arrest of Quantum Kofsky. So the Kennedy moment from any of us. Everybody remembers whether where when when the news of Holocaust Skis. Arrest came in because it was something something from another world here. He was the richest man in Russia. The most successful Russian businessman Who you know for many people was becoming the symbol of what it was possible to be. And you know how business could be cleaner and more transparent and more modern and more European In Russia this person being arrested in such a brazen way in anti-doping raid by the F. B. on explain in Novosibirsk and this was this is intended as a message and it wasn't message and it was certainly heated by the rest of Russia's business community that has made sure to stay well out of politics and and even of Civil Society Works Stand Offs Key Business Partner Plante on Lebedev had already been arrested on similar charges of financial wrongdoing. Mikhail could have escaped but last episode. He told me how he weighed up his chances of being visited by the authorities. Unless she puts on the Ritz Percents Ishmael. Which so I thought that there was a seventy thirty percentage of me ending in prison seventy percent that I would be behind bars but thirty percent attack could still win that game. That proportion changed as time went on with 'em creeping towards towbar. Unfortunately in the wrong direction there are always two parts to a show trial. The less important part is the trial. The verdict is hardly a cliffhanger is going to be guilty more importantly however there's the show. Tv pictures of Kofsky was seen all over Russia and all over the world. One interested viewer was an American born businessman bill browder. He had enormous and for a time. Highly profitable investments in Russia as bill pointed out to me keeping prisoner in a cage with standard behavior in Russia. But what was unusual. Was that deliberate attempt to ensure the entire world could witness the humiliation so order. Kaczynski gets arrested in October of two thousand and three they arrest him off his private jet which was sitting on the runway in Siberia. They bring them back to Moscow and they put him on trial for tax evasion. And when you get when you're in a criminal case when you're a defendant in criminal case in Russia there is a ninety nine point eight percent conviction rate. And so there is no presumption of innocence of a defendant. And as part of that whole no presumption of innocence they put the defendant's cage them. Just because that's where you're gonNA end up afterwards. And so then they put Mikhail Khodorkovsky the richest most powerful smartest oligarch in Russia in a cage and then allow the television cameras to come in and film him sitting in a cage. Now imagine that you're the seventeenth richest oligarch. You're in the south of France on your yacht parked off the hotel. Do Cop an antique vibe You've just finished up in the bedroom with your mistress you walk out to the living room you flick on CNN and there you see a guy for richer far smarter far more powerful than you sitting in a cage with your natural reaction going to be you. Don't want to sit in that cage yourself and so one by one by one. These guys is all the guards in the summer of two thousand and four went to Putin Vladimir. What do we have to do? So we don't have to sit in the cage is that it's real simple. Fifty percent fifty percent for the Russian government or fifty percent for the presidential administration of Russia fifty percent of of Ladimir Putin. At that moment in time Putin became the richest man in the world and the number one oligarchy in Russia claims of tax evasion and financial crimes have become a useful tool for President Putin to remove inconvenient potential rivals. It happened with Coda. Kofsky happened to his associates. And it's happening right now to the political party of opposition leader Alexander Novelli and there's the obvious irony that powerful figures in the Kremlin who have their own hands in the till are using charges of financial crimes to silence their opponents. Russia expert and design told me of just one deal in which Putin himself allegedly made two hundred million dollars former deputy finance under bubby ahead the Board C of the Northern Oil for seven million dollars in two years later he sold it to Rosneft for six hundred million dollars I all stubby love about it undesirable. I developed a company very beautifully which I of course it not quite By and I also had a cough skin said about A their information was it had been a bride of two hundred million dollars. That bobby had paid to the management all the Gulf snapped by management Kofsky BANDMATE GEAR. Bogdanovich who was the CEO and Sachin reportings right-hand assistance. Who did not have a former position at the time later it became chairman and the CEO. The he effectively controlled toss net dot when he started talking about his case he realized that clearly some of them are is two hundred million dollars had gone to Putin himself and putting Dan Turner furious. So I think this is a wonderful ministration about a potent really functions. He was in on the he benefitted personally and then. Kanter to Porsche. Kodakov ski and so there were plenty of reasons why Vladimir Putin might want to Kofsky in a cage I told Mikhail what the American businessman Bill. Browder a told me you know what Bill Browder told us we in deep red few days ago and he said you were put in a cage so that every other wealthy person in Russia would look and say that cloths ski. He's got more money than me smarter than me. Look what happened to him on? Better find out from Putin I need to do not to end up in a cage. Do you think bill browder that about right. The Ish Doku yes I do. Think the Yukos case. The first case broke a lot of really kind of broke out people in Russian loosely. Just people a kind of boot did a lot of damage in Russia. I think a lot of people suddenly realized that courts would not be on their side that they cannot find protection in the courts behalf. Set had been the case before but this was the first republican covered by the media. Case like that on TV and the judiciary understood very well during the process then they also have to make the right decision dictated by government to them otherwise they would be broken as well. Russian court cases tend not to have happy endings Makovsky and his colleague Plateau Lebedev were sentenced to eleven years penal colonies. Imagine going from a humble background to becoming a billionaire and then finding yourself sentenced two years in the Russian prison system the Torius for the Soviet era gulags in human cruelty violence and disease. Can I ask you about about prison? I mean you know the idea of a Russian jails through Russian literature through anything and people in the west to read about. It sounds like a horrific time. You'RE YOU'RE FIT guy out battles it. But as he's Today's Jalen. Russia is Not Gulag. We had in the past okay. It wasn't as bad as it gulag but it wasn't a law Thaad. Was it more beautiful new store. Well you should understand your average prisoner. Yovich prisoner is at such a low level in prison that he doesn't even understand who he's dealing weaves overseas kitchen me at the Russian should I? He sees somebody much older than him. And this is important in jail. An average age in the type of prison I occupied was twenty three and I was forty and that was a significant difference. He led the spoke win which religion swims then. They see an educated person who can actually help or explain things. They don't understand themselves and then they also testy your inner strength. Shen break the move film at machine use me. Are you going to escape it? I going to be nervous or are you calm and collected and with the collectedness of yours can actually help others. I've always had very strong nerves. And perhaps I should thank my parents for this way. I really did was able to help those people. I share the celery when hysterical. And there's no one coming to their rescue. You're always look at the person can help. In fact my relations with the people I should sell with quite foreign okay. Good momentum and sometime I found myself in the syllabus twelve thirteen other prison cement and I found that my friend bottle navy found himself in punishment and man managing Russia's prisons Mr Kellyanne said publicly said that Mr Neville is not going to leave that cell ever and I knew that that was health and he would just die in that sense yet so I started a dry hunger-strike so that knew that I could only lost about ten days. Hunger strike means about your water. Thome which is that sentence or they didn't really quite believe me so at one point decided to test me on the fifth day of my hunger strike very easy they take your blood pressure wristed. What's tw two hundred and twenty two hundred and twenty glue squish as the last to coagulate and it's much harder for the heart to trumpeting the veins because he gets embassies. This is why most people don't live beyond ten days. They just die. Bush chew more but they work a scene that they asked the rest of the cell the twelfth business to sign the documents saying that in fact Arnold really dry hunger strike that I am drinking water. the Konakov ski case was and still is a sensation in Russia and among Russians in exile Gary Kasparov is a world renowned Russian chess grandmaster and former world champion now a political activist. He's chairman of the Human Rights Foundation based in New York putinite instill destroying all institutions. That could play also checks and balances and anything that could even remotely straighten. His power was doomed to end and a chopping block of KGB machine and one of the turning points was of course two thousand three the successful attack on Yukos largest success washing company in the wild Putin propaganda succeeded in Russia and partially in the West telling that it was a tackle only guards and it was about corruption about taxes. Look the reality was was the opposite as was happens was detoro regime so whether or go skill was that he wanted to pay taxes but the pay taxes to Russian state treasury not to leave in the world of graphs and bribes and corruption and he wanted to integrate us into the global industrial financial system and to make multinational corporation that was so much against interest of Putin and other only goes through all the girls who wanted to keep things as as the war and and they could feel that with oil prices rising rapidly they will do much better without any transparency without any integration A real integration into the Well financial economical and eventually pro political system. The way puts us all the integrated was quite different buying soccer collapse building a network of agents and lobbyists and again let's give them credit succeeded for his part and Ashland sees the Khordokovsky cases extraordinary but not unique. It was told me. Part of a well-thought. I'd Putin plan to take them his perceived enemies one by one and along the way help himself and his cronies to most of their money whom India tax levy miracle since the outstanding in need the only produced the best television ranger and the newspapers in Russia. How he went and the recent that were putting put forward if that they were feeling financially. Next B- Boris Berezovsky beyond the big medial oligarch. Because he had taken control Hoover Tiba big a state television channel liberal new forty nine percent Over shares out of scare was forced. Who COMES NEXT Khordokovsky? Because he was the most successful businessmen and what Putin did very successful in each case he took one person at a time and he never claimed that this was because he wanted political control. Oh No it was always one financial problem or whatever that made it necessary for fourteen authorities to intervene and not only back through our a case. Putin claimed that the post would not be forced into bankruptcy which is of course moss and Reporting the investors were so gullible. Buffet believed Putin is so until the end of two thousand four more than one year after he had been arrested. The stock price of a joke on the New York Stock Exchange held up and then in the end American investors alone probably lost twelve billion dollars on the collapse. Despite Mikhail Khordokovsky brave words to me that is jail was not as bad as the gulags of the past. It's difficult to imagine what it must be like to spend years in a Russian prison especially for crying which you did not commit and when you also know at least thirty of your Yukon employees and colleagues are also been jailed on trumped up charges in the next episode of the big steel. We'll hear about those others. Some who died some killed by neglect some still behind bars of all the victims of the Yukos case of everyone. Who has you know gone through this ordeal that the Putin regime began in two thousand three? You know there's no fate more tragic than that of us. Alexina young successful professional. Who was I mean? Let's go thanks for they are was basically killed by the Putin government who lost his life to the Yukos case. And we'll hear that you costs might be the biggest steal of all but it's not been the last. The American born investor Bill Browder was on the Putin and Kleptocrats list for special attention but browder managed to fight back. The police working together with corrupt officials and organized. Criminals orchestrated highly complex. Corporate identity theft. Where they stole the corporate entities through which we had invested in Russia is a question in my mind that he is a total and absolute criminal and he's made more money from his crimes than any other criminal in history of crime. The big steel was presented by me governor. 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Unit 6, Discussion 3: The Cold War, Part Two
"In this podcast. We're going to talk about the second phase of the Cold War from roughly nineteen seventy nine to the present your task in this podcast asked him to explain one reason why the Cold War ended briefly sometime between nineteen eighty five and nineteen ninety one and explain one reason why the Cold War might be said to return to Europe at some point in the years between nineteen ninety one and two thousand nineteen when we saw the Cold War in the first first podcast in this series we ended with the human missile crisis in nineteen sixty two thereafter there was a period of what was called detente don't detente referred to Peaceful Coexistence with the Soviet Union and even though they were a communist nation and we regarded them as a mortal threat since World War Two we decided that we could live with them and we could negotiate with them and make agreements and in that way lower the tension that had led up to the Cuban Missile Crisis He really say detente under Richard Nixon. Nixon opened up relations with with China. And he also made some very important strides in arms limitation talks which were known as salt won the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty or salt. One now salt one thousand nine hundred seventy two did not reduce as the number of nuclear missiles on each side but it prevented their expansion later on in the Reagan administration. You would have the start agreement. It which was the strategic arms reduction treaty with Mikhail Gorbachev Reagan and Gorbachev made that great deal and arms. Were going to be reduced by both sides. which further reduced tension so you say detente was Something that existed from roughly nineteen seventy two until nineteen seventy nine. What happened during that period? Well again again. There was peaceful coexistence in one thousand nine hundred ninety five the United States and the Soviet Union had a joint space project where a US ship hip docked with a Soviet ship and that was really quite incredible but this easing of tensions did not last for long because in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan of all places and the United States boycotted the Olympics that that year in one thousand nine hundred eighty when the Olympics were held in Moscow and setup other kinds of restraints and sanctions against Russia so relations went downhill from there. When Reagan became president he was an anti-communist cold warrior and that also ratcheted up tensions between the United States and the Soviet Union but then in one thousand nine hundred? Five Mikhail Gorbachev became the Soviet leader under and he claimed that he wanted something called Perestroika and what Perestroika meant was restructuring. He said that he was a communist but that he wanted freedom for the first time in the Soviet Union. We didn't know what to believe. Nobody Buddy knew what to believe. The Reagan administration certainly did not did not know. Nobody really trusted Gorbachev because it was like he wanted to you get some agreements with the United States but he wanted to hold onto communism which to us was the exact opposite of freedom. So how could he possibly be sincere. Well it turned out that he was sincere but nobody knew it. I remember attending a conference in one thousand nine hundred eighty six on Russian relations relations and in the conference. The expert said we have two things to fear about Gorbachev one that he will fail and the other that he will succeed which was either a profound statement or a profoundly ridiculous statement depending upon how you look at but above all it was was a statement that showed that that fellow didn't know what he was talking about and he was admitting that he didn't know well. Within five years the Soviet Union would cease to exist cyst and nobody thought coming. Because that's a turndown Gorbachev was sincere and he made the start agreement with Ronald Reagan and he introduced new freedoms to the Soviet Union which created a revolution in the mind among the Russian people. A revolution of rising expectations spectator. And this eventually led to the old guard in the Soviet Union. Being afraid too much change was happening too fast and they actually tried to overthrow Gorbachev in Nineteen ninety-one but this coup was never really got off the ground Gorbachev was released however his power was obviously gone. And at the end of the year nineteen ninety-one he resigned as Soviet the IT leader and the Soviet Union itself ceased to exist to be replaced by Russia now after nineteen ninety one Russia was a potential attention. Democracy and the Western alliance tried to help Russia. But it didn't do enough to help. Russia and so in the ninety s Russia tended to be very poor it tended to decline both economically and politically. It saw the loss of all these colonies that it had once controlled including Crimea Ukraine and the Baltic states and the the Russians felt humiliated by all this while the Western allies should have done a better job of trying to usher Russia into to a democratic situation but instead the western allies whooped it up made made it clear that communism had been defeated and that the West had won and history was over and I think there was a general neglect of Russia in the nineties. So that by the end of the nineties the last decent Russian leader. Boris Yeltsin was replace by Vladimir Putin who we have today poten has been running for president ever since the late nineteen ninety s and that sustains somehow fiction that he is an elected leader but the election is a sham and Putin is a virtual dictator. Putin is a former member of the KGB the equivalent of the CIA in Russia and he regrets that the Soviet Union ceased to exist so having worked for the Soviet Union. Putin wants to bring it back back. And he's especially wants to bring back the colonies that Russia should never have had in the first place but that Russia controlled during the Soviet era. He's already taken back by force. Crimea during the Obama Administration and now he's trying to take back Ukraine and so there is a new coal more afoot and it's largely due to to things in part but in only a small part it is due to the allies after the collapse of Russia not doing enough to assist Russia in its transition to democracy but most importantly of all its due to Vladimir Putin trying to reestablish a Soviet style monarchy in Russia and a Soviet style imperialism over eastern Europe and Ukraine especially so those are the reasons why the the Cold War persists and those people who say there is no Cold War. I think are engaging in wishful thinking. You won't find find the term Cold War discussed much but it does seem like we can never quite escape this type of geopolitics with the Russians. Things no matter how hard we try. And that's the story of the second phase of the Cold War. This is Dr Ryan.
Amanpour: Steven Reed, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Alex Gibney and Megan Phelps-Roper
"Once you've made your big discovery next you have to prove it. Works in our second episode of Engineering. Big Ideas we had to Milan to talk prototyping with our dino founder Mosima the band's visit Mazar dot com slash empowering innovation to watch the episode. Now hello everyone one and welcome to Amman. For here's what's coming up. That's why people elect leaders and that is to not maintain the status quo but to change it. A Young African American leader brings change to the cradle of the confederacy and the civil rights movement. I speak with Montgomery Alabama's first Black Mayor Steven even read and citizen. K A new documentary tracks Mikhail Khordokovsky journey from Russia's richest man to Putin's greatest nemesis. Mrs I speak to him and to the Oscar winning director Alex Gibney. Then the Ashley were out there to bring terror to people. A true believer breaks takes away from her hate spewing Church and Family Michelle Martin speaks with author Megan Phelps Roper about leaving the Westboro Baptist Church. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christiane Amanpour in London. Montgomery Alabama is a city of great contradictions. The former capital of the confederate states of America is also the birthplace of the civil rights movement home to Rosa Parks and host to some of Martin. Luther King Juniors most stirring rhetoric and acts of civil disobedience and come Tuesday Montgomery will once again bear witness as the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice. The city celebrates the inauguration of Steven. Reid its first. African American male the majority black city is plagued by crime and the economic inequality in a state ranked dead last education as he prepares to take office. I asked Merrill read about his daunting to do list. And the history. He is making mayor. Elect Stephen Read. Welcome to the program. Thank you how are you I really good. I WanNa know how you feel because because here you are making history in Montgomery which is everybody knows or should know is the cradle of the civil rights movement but also of the confederacy. How will you feel as a person taking the oath of office when you get inaugurated there are feel really great about the accomplishment What we've done in in in this community and how far we've come The race was never been about me as much as it has been about the collective hopes and dreams of the people in the the city and that is a belief in positive future and the future as filled with opportunity Certainly comes with a great deal of responsibility given the history history that we have here. Dr Martin Luther King Junior leading the Montgomery bus boycott Rosa parks kind of jump. Starting that we've had a complex history we're here with with race but we've come a long way and we're city that really wants to focus on the future as opposed to our past. You know I obviously those. Those are the facts But it's also something that is inspiring a lot of people not just in Montgomery which is sixty percent black after all and you are defer black mayor to be elected but people around the country. Who's looking to see what's possible in these United States in these highly divisive times? And I know you mentioned Dr Martin Luther King of course he paraphrased the great words about history and the Marla bending towards justice in the context of the history. And all the other things. You just mentioned. Do you believe that your city your state. The country is actually moving towards justice. Or is this. You know a nice anomaly. I think the country and our state and city are certainly moving towards justice. I think there's a long way to go. I think we have to be more open and more candidate about how we get there But we've made obviously positive steps across the country. Emma Gomert has been a part of that. We're having honest this discussions about what we can do differently. And what we can do from a policy standpoint to really bring about more opportunity and more equity throughout not just our community but throughout our state and as long as we keep willing to have those conversations and we make sure that we act on them then I think we can continue to move forward and so while. It's great to have mayors in Birmingham and Selma Montgomery and other places that African American. It's also important porn. I remember that economically. We still face a lot of challenges. AFRICAN AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS STILL FACE SIGNIFICANT WEALTH GAP. There's still still a gap Tremendously relates to health care access. And so what. I hope that this election will do allow people to understand that we want AH national international partnerships with people with organizations with companies. Who really care about not only the civil rights history but also the the future of civil rights in this country? There are still issues regarding raising reconciliation that we have to deal with not only in Montgomery Alabama but in this country and we have to be honest about that. A lot of the language allow the actions allow the policies do have disproportionate impact racially on people of Color. So we have to be very Truthful about that but we also have to be willing to do some innovative things to change those outcomes and I I hope. The election will represent is the ability to have a new narrative for the city of Montgomery forces. Start a new chapter so I just want to read a list and I'm going to read it because it just shows exactly what you've got to deal with them. What's on your plate as mayor? You have said that you'd like to tackle failing public schools. High Crime Police community relations inadequate public transportation unhealthy water supply in some areas brown water. We understand not to mention food deserts and the poverty in in many parts of your you'll city I mean that's a very ambitious and very necessary list of Policies WanNa tackle. What do you think is most important to start with? What sort of keeps you up up at night about what to do? I think the thing that we have to start with education because I see that as as the root cause of a lot of other issues that we're dealing with and I believe that if we're really to be intentional and deliberate We have to do to transform our public education system to make sure that everyone wind regardless of their neighborhood or zip code has an equal chance at at opportunity then we can achieve some of the other accomplishments and objectives. That we really have out there. Now listen I certainly know that the list you just read is a long and challenging list of I'm aware of that and it's not something icebreaker great to happen overnight but it is something ice by us to make progress in it is something is great for us to impact in a more positive manner that's why people elect leaders leaders and that is to not maintain the status quo but to change it and one of the things that I ran on was I didn't want to be that the monitor anymore and take the temperature in the city but I wanted to be the thermostat so I could set the temperature of the city and that means that means being very deliberate and being very very honest about what our issues are and how we go about changing some of those issues and that only happens by knowledge in that we have a problem and working to solve it Maryland. How would you grade or rate your ability to work across party lines? Your father obviously for decades AIDS has chaired the Alabama Democratic Conference. You grew up in a political household. People remember apparently from seeing you as a young boy in church and a lot a lot of people obviously incredibly proud of your compliments but you do have a republican legislature. You have a Republican governor. And you may eventually get another Republican. Senator Jeff Sessions wanting to re contest that seat that but what can you as a democratic mayor do In in this in this environment well they'll saying You know all politics is local and so we want to make sure that we're working with all of our stakeholders and all of our elected officials both state and federal as well as obviously all our local city council to really address. The issues and I look at John For me partisan perspective we WANNA look at them from a citizen persuadable worth going to be best for the citizens of Montgomery. I was going to be best for the citizens sins of Alabama and I believe we take some of the partisanship out of some of our discussions. We can meet in the middle and we can find that common ground. That's what we did in the campaign pain. That's how we were able to win with almost two thirds of the vote We were able to reach across lines. to really bring people into a share perspective that we have for for our future and I think that if we can continue to do that then we'll be able to work with our state. Legislative leaders are governor as well as our congressional. I know delegation. And I look forward to doing that. I've already had some initial discussions with them and I believe that we're going to be accomplished some great things together. People look at the united the states right now and the federal government and see a whole load of gridlock because of partisanship and it spreads around the country as well and to an extent it's happening winning in places around the world because of this highly some would call it very toxic partisan nature of what's happening but there is a lot of interest in mayors is not just in the United States but also around the world books are being written on. Actually what mayors can accomplish for their own cities even if the wider data context is more difficult to penetrate again. Just speak to me about what you think. The power of the mayor's office is I. I think the power of the mayor's office only limited by the person that occupies office. I think that we have the opportunity. Mayors across this country to really transform the landscape locally because we understand that we're competing in the global marketplace. But we also understand that we can impact on a local level and we can often move things a lot faster locally that maybe you can't the state or national level and so that's one of the things that attracted me to the opportunity to serve as mayor was was how could I have moved the ball forward. And how could I improve opportunity for everyone who lives here in a very impactful way and so in the end The election is certainly certainly historic but the legacy of my turn will be. What do we do over these next four years? What type of relationships and partnerships cannot create to stimulate late investment in this city in this region and in our state and I think there are number of mayors across this country? That are already doing that. And I plan to blueprint. Some of the ideas are where they work. And then we'll implement some of some around new ideas where they haven't and now to your own state into trying to sort of. We've talked a little bit about healing. The divide or working across party lines and across ethnic and color lines. We know that Alabama is a very red state and that in the last election. Unusually there was the first Democratic senator to win Doug Jones because of all the issues with Roy Moore but now we know that the former Attorney General Jeff sessions is saying that he wants to contest that seat. What do you think some people are saying? That Doug Jones may end up being a one term Democratic senator that. What do you think when you when you see yet? Another Republican senator. Maybe taking over that siege again. I see data's being something that the voters of Alabama will have to decide what type of leadership The deer looking for certainly senator sessions served in this capacity for a number number of years and was reelected. He has a track record here that I think appeal so large segment of Alabamians and so in the Republican primary side. They have a lot of choices to kind of filter out themselves. I think from from my standpoint as a mayor I have to work with whoever's in Washington and I plan to keep my agenda the same regardless of who occupies the US Senate seat currently this right. Now where Senator Jones. Or whether there'd be former senator sessions listen to someone else. Our agendas going to remain the same where that's increasing federal funding for public transportation whether as utilizing more innovative practices in our affordable housing programs whether or not that's just really helping build our infrastructure. This isn't the first time you've made history. I mean as a probate judge. I think it was that In Two thousand fifteen you issued the state's first same sex marriage license and then the chief judge at the time Roy Moore who we've just been talking about refuse to enforce it. He was then sent should for it but there are a lot of hot button issues are there. Do you expect yourself to face some of those. I realize as you're in a different capacity now or how those hot button issues may you know may still be points of friction between communities you know I think how issues are something that comes with the territory when you're leader you're in that position to make decisions that you feel in the best interest of the people that you represent. I don't believe you could leave with the ear to the ground in the finger to the wind so I make I make decisions based on the position that I have morally Orley. I make decisions based on positions that I think are right for the people that I'm serving and that has been a great gun of bitch more for me me in my career so far and we'll continue to do that but where there are controversial issues. What I try to look for again is the common ground in that and that doesn't mean we always have to agree? That doesn't mean we always have to be one hundred percent on everything that we're saying it just means as long as you understand my position in my perspective. Maybe you'll respect that a little bit. Maybe you can appreciate it. Even if you do not agree and to the grease some of those things may be controversial Israel. So be it. If it's for the betterment of Montgomery if it's going to increase our ability to compete to recruit ever attain great talent to build a community of opportunity for everyone here. I'm willing to take that task on That's what it comes down to at the end of the day is really leading to make a difference if I may say something just the other day. We commemorated the thirtieth anniversary of the civil rights more. You'll hear Montgomery Alabama and one of the things that I talked about. There was was ordinary people who made the ultimate sacrifice to do extrordinary things. They didn't do that because they were trying to be on the side of what was politically politically expedient. They did that because they were doing things that they felt was it just calls and that's what we have to get back to. I believe in our politics and not really worry about Out The poll numbers and our the worry about the cynics or the critics but understanding. What it is that we're putting position to do and why we need to get those things done? Well that's obviously very rousing will be very inspiring for many people mayor elect Steven Reid. Thank you so much and congratulations. Thank you for having me. Finding the right pros for home. Projects can be tough and spark a lot of questions. Like how do I find a pro who can help. Will they do a good job. Will I get a fair price. That's where home advisor can help from leaky. Faucets to major remodels home advisor connects you to the right pro for the job in seconds and even helps you get a fair price. Read reviews check project. 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Once a leading practitioner of Russia's brand of gangster capitalism Khordokovsky. Now lives in exile here. In Britain trying to support the opposition in Russia against President Putin he spent nearly a decade in. Putin's jails on a series of politically motivated charges and his story. He is the focus of a probing new documentary by the Oscar Award winning filmmaker. Alex Gibney I spoke with them and both of them and with quota Kofsky via translator translator and asked about his wild quintessentially Russian story. Gentlemen Welcome to the program. I'm Mikhail Khordokovsky. You're sitting here with me so I wanNA ask you first. There was a big ovation when this was first shown and people really seem to like it. Why do you think people are sympathetic to the story of someone who was an oligarchy who you could call the epitome of gangster capitalism in in the post Soviet Union Russia and yet your story now is resonating with people? Why do you think that is what you're a Lose a millennial. Now first of all people presumably understand that capitalism in Russia can only be wild because we didn't have the kind of experience that Oh you had in the West. If we were to have had all of a sudden good capitalism that would imply that people would behave differently but in fact as is Alex manages to show Russia changed in the process and we changed in the process and I think these kinds of changes resonated with the public in general loom emotionless is Anita will that Minya addicts. You've heard Mikhail describe what he thinks. His story is. What do you think his story is? What about him attracted you to wanting to make him the central figure of Citizen K? Well I've done a lot of things about power and abuse of power and After the two thousand sixteen election It seemed to me important for Americans and the rest of the world to understand. Stand a bit more about Russia and particularly how power worked in Russia and it seems to me that Mikhail story was Emblematic or or or a great great way of looking at power. Because he had been at the very top of this kind of wild west were gangster capitalism and then by challenging Putin and trying to suggests that there was a better way he was sent to prison and then he was at the absolute bottom where the his only power was to be able to kill himself He went on a number of hunger strikes in order to be able to enforce some minor changes having to do with how some of his people were being treated and then ultimately he's He's he's he's led out by Putin after ten years in prison and now he works In exile from London to try to bring further changes to Russia's so that journey seemed to be very dynamic and powerful to me in terms of trying to understand how Russia works. So you've set up the trajectory really well so I WANNA go back now to how this all sort unfolded Mikhail. Because here you were doing really well you. I had a bank and then through the ability to to grab a massive amount of of the state oil you because one of the biggest oil companies in the world and then you started to confront even in public on television President Putin on issues of corruption and that essentially quickly led to your being arrested. I WANNA play a clip from two thousand three. which which is the news footage of them coming to to get you and what your lawyer said those? The yellow veal was sued ascend. Zenda achieved enough. Let's still upset politicians great yellow and the key that you fully. John Spun out of the richest Russia. Tale dominant overcrowded Russian prison So the Stanford prison. Why didn't you leave the country? Yeah I could swear is used to but you so Makovsky that is a very brave and profound statement that you refuse to exchange your dignity and your self respect just to save your life. I mean as Alex said you could have but you didn't. You stayed to face the music but begin begin by telling us how you survived prison because it was brutal Muslim did well. In fact risen Karenni one used to Soviet youth pioneer camps or the Soviet army for that matter doesn't actually differ that much you understand more or less how things structured. I have to admit though that I didn't join one real advantage. I was roughly twice as old as the average prisoners. The average age of most prisoners was twenty three and I was fourteen. He and that in prison obviously foods you some respect education as well both coasts someone but in brutal Russian prison you can see that the basic foundation of everything is violence and many people under the influence of violence snap and do things that they would never have done in ordinary life. And you did gain not just respect but I guess security also bye as addict said going on hunger strikes to demand conditions for yourself but also for other members of I think you call who also imprisoned and some other prisoners who were not perhaps getting some of the same treatment. You were getting Jaromir. Well you know in prison you can really only get things if if you put your life on the line and you have to understand that once you've done that once you will never be able to obtain anything else and it was precisely for this reason that I had to you think very carefully about putting my life on the line for the prisoners but I did that four times and four times. I was prepared to die unless my conditions committee and I was successful or four times and here of because outside support played an enormous part. Many people in fact many Russians who went to court and made demands on the government and we managed to convince them. If that hadn't happened things would have turned out far worse for me as Quench Alex. How did you view the arc of his development as a character during your storytelling? And I guess I just read something that you've said about you know when you look at these larger than life characters who tell stories about Empathy is one of the key qualities you say you. You have to empathize with people. Otherwise you have a view of the world that I don't believe in which is there are good people and bad people whereas I believe we are all a mixture of both how. How does this citizen K fit into that structure that you've constructed well? The simple structures rise fall rise but in terms of the quota just mentioned I mean you know Mikhail in the in the in the wild and tumble nineties in Russia inhabited the the the east coast of the time which was ruthless as possible in order to get as much money as possible as as he himself admitted to me he said he thought of it is a game. We'll soon he realized it wasn't a game. You know particularly when the ruble fell and oil prices fell and he was having to lay off tens of thousands of people but it really wasn't a game when when suddenly he was laying he landed in prison and I think all of us face moments in our lives when we have to make a decision about Ourselves and when we're faced with a moment in crisis we can either You know lapse into self pity Talk to ourselves about how sorry you know everybody should be for us or are we find some kind of inner strength to change and I believe in the idea of change and I and you know one of the most powerful things that we call said was that he said he found in prison. That life wasn't about having it was about being well. That's a pretty profound statement you know particularly from somebody who come from where he'd had come from and I know a lot of billionaires and when they see this tiniest bit of adversity they tend to retreat into self pity Because they didn't do that he came out the other side to try to see live in a completely different way. And so as a filmmaker that was That was a powerful story to fall. I want to ask you also Alex about the challenge of including doing things that he may or may not have liked. They sort of sentenced you and convicted. You charge you in absentia with the murder of a mayor in uh-huh in the Siberian town and Khordokovsky has said in other in other interviews including that murder charge in your documentary treat is a sign of how well Putin's propaganda machine as work. I'm you oversee disagreed. And you say no. What do you say? Because I think that's one the rare instances where you might disagree because it's generally a positive a positive look at at coffs game. Well I think the the the the parts of the bits and pieces in the nineties where it's not quite so flattering here you particularly there are there are kyle clips of kyle talking about how greed effectively actively Gordon Gecko. Greed is good But I think in terms of the murder the murder for me was a very interesting phenomenon and important to deal Jio with both because it showed the rough and tumble period in which everybody was living But also because I think it's a narrative narrative that changes over time and that to me was the interesting thing about how you know Putin's regime dealt with that murder. It became a murder that was malleable. You change the facts as time progresses as you need to and so the purpose at the beginning changed changed in the middle and then changed again at the end so that While they went after initially as a culprit you know one of the The Yuko security people by the end they were charging Mikhail with having masterminded the crime which I don't in fact believe but something clearly happened. Nobody really knows what happened. But the key thing is the propaganda mastery of how it was handled in Russia so much so that when I go to Neth Uganda gods which is where the murder took place in Siberia everybody we interviewed two person said. Oh absolutely we know who did the murder. It was Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Well that was genius on the part of Putin. I don't think it represented the truth but I think it in the film it shows. How propaganda works? So you're listening thing to that. He doesn't think you did it or ordered it. But any clarity on who might have done it could have been a Yukos official. Who wanted to please the boss? You I mean any more clarity on that murder Kenniston. Obviously not them but at the same time I have to give credit to how well the propaganda machine worked back to work so this gave me and the opposition a very difficult task in that we have to work with his machine and realize that they were capable capable of this kind of thing. Well talking about Putin you've essentially had a twenty year battle with him. It's interesting though that when he first came to power during the Yeltsin in years right after the fall of the Soviet Union. You said the following about him. You were talking about initial misconceptions about Putin. I'm from what you initially thought about him. This is from the movie. Dissolves La Jolla each Kim national chiller. You keep on National Galina India Qatar of Prince Souphanouvong coach. Rescue distortion. Probably in New York. We push but critics Toco democracy country issue belts notion until Kushner a good person. You now out an opposition to him. You're here in London. Where many other dissidents have been threatened and killed and otherwise come to home how powerful is Putin? The narrative today is that Putin is outfoxing foxing the Americans the west and everybody that he is making Russia. Great again you will year till him you have nobody. Even is influential and at the same time not influential. Because he's built around himself a myth that he is somebody who is in complete control of Russia. Check unless someone that is not true. In fact Russia cannot be governed from one point. Only say what you have. Today's kind of social contract but but whereas in the past that was with the people now it is with his futile and he allows them there by to do what they want and they in return. Turn ensure Emma votes internationally. Of course it's a completely different narrative if you look at trump for example the president of a country with an economy ten in times more important that of Russia. You can't compare them because somebody like trump can make use of say one percent or two percent of the GDP without Congress whereas Putin with the approval of the Duma the Russian parliament which is entirely under his control could make use a thirty percent. What say fifteen percent the country's GDP so this is very interesting in comparative terms doesn't for trump the death of ten US citizens as a result of his his decisions will be a problem whereas Putin the deaths of ten thousand would be a problem so there you have a comparison of their respective strengths supplied? Here we come up against a problem and I fear that it's a global one in the West which is lack of leadership. You just can't see the kind of leadership which is essential title for any democratic system so against this background of insufficient leadership Putin of course looks very efficient. But then put him on the same level. As I'd I'd say Margaret Thatcher go or Reagan anti-drugs very different interesting so that's that's for Putin and and his relative power or not and you have. Alex really focused on people and situations of power. You've done now. Wow this and through this focused on Putin as well You've done also a little bit on trump. You did a documentary. That involved his business. And you're about to do another one tell us what about power fascinates you and what we might find out with your work on trump well power our fascinates me because it's how we move the world. It's how we get things done but what I'm also fascinated by how people abuse that power and you know it seems to me. It's the job of a documentarian or the job of a journalist to confront those abuses and to point them out and in so doing you know I tend to spend a lot out of time more time on the purpose than the victims. Because seems to me. If you WANNA stop crime you look at how criminals do their work when it comes to trump and You know and I think there are some parallels with Putin in terms of How they present the truth How they try? How trump at least is trying to eviscerate things like a free present a an independent judiciary though I don't think he's succeeding But I think in terms of what I'm doing going forward is that you know we're still in the United States confused about what happened in two thousand sixteen eighteen so later on next year. I'm going to release a film about what I think really happened. And what that might portend for the the elections in two thousand twenty. Can you give us a little glimpse of what you think really happened. Well I think that it was it. The idea that there was a kind of simple conspiracy theory that that trump was a A creature opinion. You know Afraid of the compromise. That had on Emma's completely wrong. I do think there was a Russian attack on on a US systems And and an attempt to sow chaos but the attempt was partially successful will because the candidate who was running was a master sowing chaos. That's his genius is just to grab attention onto himself. Willy Nilly without any real plan. His his campaign was really a campaign. Nobody knew how to reach him because there was only one or two people. You can talk to uh so. I think that the the larger message about what happened in two thousand sixteen may be that we met the enemy and it was us that is fascinating at least give me always great work. Thank you very much. Indeed Mikhail Khordokovsky Citizen K. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you Christiane. Well in order to better understand Russia's actions today we have to go back in time to the fall of the Soviet Union as we mentioned earlier nearly thirty years ago the world watched as the Berlin Wall came crashing down and with it the Iron Curtain of communism tomorrow we mark that historic anniversary anniversary with three people who witnessed it firsthand. Here's a sneak peek. The very first thing I thought with surprise I'd be in some sort of a reception in bog. I went home. My wife had faced right against the television screens and she said the wall is up and I said how many cases of Whiskey have you drunk and then I telephoned debris general in Berlin. Who was my sort of representative there and it was true as Nice my second reaction joy because obviously it was going to open a better era in Europe? When we heard that the wall was going down we decided to take part in the physical demolition of this torture so we went to the Brandenburg Gates and we made our very modest contribution to the physical destruction of the wall and for us? It was a great happening. We're very young. We thought that it it was almost like a miracle or a holiday and of course everybody was very enthusiastic and as a Soviet citizen I can tell you that Ah I didn't feel any unease or awkwardness. Because Gorbachev was a magic road for many Germans around for me the most important thing about it was the ordinary East Germans who felt liberated having been stockpiling the walls for nearly three decades and I remember one of them said to me I just saw a Costa which had said only today is the Second World War. Aw over thrilling times and more tomorrow but now the Westboro Baptist. Church is one of America's most notorious religious it just eight groups it gained worldwide condemnation for its pickets at military funerals and celebrations of death and tragedy even the September the eleventh attacks. Meghan Phelps. Roper is the granddaughter of its founder. And she was one of his staunchest supporters but seven years ago. She broke with the Church and she now works to combat extremism. Meghan sat down without Michelle Martin to talk about why she left and a warning. The interview does refer to that hate speech which might defend some viewers. Megan Phillips Roper. Thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you for having me and I have to tell you that. I have the same reaction to meeting you in person that I think. A lot of people had to connecting with you online. which is that You're a person who along with your family. I don't know what else to say except that for for a lot of people you're a terrorist you're a terrorist except that you didn't kill people. Your whole reason for being was to terrorize people to make them feel terrible about themselves to cause them great pain at their most vulnerable moments in their lives How often do you think about that now? Frequently I mean it comes up in conversations. I'm constantly meeting people that I that I hurt. You know this is not when I go and talk about these things. This is not a theoretical. It's not a theoretical apology. It's something that I live every every day. What exactly was the church protesting? Well they would say sin all kinds of sin it started out being being particularly about the Lgbtq community and then expanded from there to other Christians and Jewish people Anybody who said anything against our message was target. uh-huh how did they get to soldiers funerals though so it was after you know once you know the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan started and my grandfather. Was You too watching. He watched the news constantly and he would see these these these funerals and he would say you know. These aren't funerals. These are patriotic pep rallies people plot. They're waving flags and talking about how God is blessing America and so he is our is our duty he said to go and bring this godly message. Wjr God's side of it which is as grams encapsulated it. I don't even I don't want to. I mean they turn the country over two fangs. Thanks they're coming home in body bags that's how he encapsulated it And so but that was the idea you know this. This country has institutionalized sin and therefore therefore God is punishing them and we need to go to where they're saying God is blessing America and say no God has cursing America and this. This dead soldier is evidence of that. I just need wait a minute to kind of deal with my own feelings for having senior family picketing at military hospitals the famous signs thank God for. Eds they got your. You're dead that soldiers. I mean I saw you out there with these young people whose bodies were broken people who've lost limbs serving their country and you're out there screaming at them and I just it's just hard. It's just it's hard. Yeah no I completely understand the You you know when people you mentioned people seeing us terrorists and we were you're right. We absolutely were out there. To bring terror are two people we believed that the that the purpose of that that fear was biblical right. So there's this passage that we would quote from the book the Jud- says of some have compassion others save with fear so our goal in those moments. It wasn't just to cause pain needlessly. We thought that it was the only way the only hope for people to experience this pain in this life which is minimal. Compared to the pain that people would be experiencing during sing in hell for eternity. One of the things are so surprised. Me About your book is to understand that even as you were doing this you were living in the same world that the rest of us are living in. I mean I think that a lot of people have the image of Westboro Baptist. Church's people living in a compound. Know your kids went all the public schools rules. You went to the same schools as everybody else went to college. Many went to law school most went to law school. I also learned from the book that that your grandfather insisted that all of his children and their spouses go to law school. So how did they maintain this immersion in this world view you know the vast majority of people in in the church or people who grew up in it right so they were indoctrinated. And just like I was and the idea is that it's like being inoculated against outside side ideas. You are calm. We were constantly exposed to these outside ideas. We were talked to people on the picket line where you know reading books and listening to music penal popular music. It wasn't it wasn't like we were. Are you know like you said that. We weren't not corralled in any way like physically. It's just that when we were before we were ever exposed to those ideas before we were ever exposed to outside outside arguments. We were taught. Here are the arguments people are going to make. Here is why they're wrong here. Is the Bible verse the Chapter and Verse Memorize as it. Were you happy absolutely. I loved everything that we did. I believe you screaming at people and seeing on their faces and the horror. You liked it. You know my mom when we first started protesting soldiers funerals I asked. I said I need to know exactly why we're doing this. I you know we're going to be out there. I I need to understand why and she started quoting the Bible verses that was always the source of everything that we did. It was God's saying I set before you today blessing and a curse a blessing if you obey amy and a curse if you won't and she said can we all agree that a dead child's a curse from God and not a blessing. I not sure if people do but people who live in Kansas. It may remember your grandfather. Fred Phelps the founder of the Church was very highly respected civil rights lawyer. Royer many people may be Kansas Brown. V Board about this. This is the the Home Jurisdiction of one of the most famous civil rights cases in the history of this country entry but it was certainly not the only civil rights battle that had to be fought and your grandfather was taking these cases Defending african-americans who in some cases couldn't get other lawyers white or black to take their their cases. What happened that? He then became obsessed with gay people with LGBT people people with picketing soldiers. What happened so my grandfather saw no tension between those two positions that he took he saw them both as being scripturally derived so so he would say God never said it was an abomination to be black or female or old but God did say that it was an abomination to be gay but why does particular obsession with? I think it is fair to call it an obsession with homosexuality. Yes so anytime people would ask that question we we would say. We're obsessed with it because you're obsessed with it. That's literally how we would respond because you know remember. This was the early nineties. This was when the battle title for Rights for same sex you know people The people in the LGBTQ community That this battle was kind of coming to the fore right. If you think about how quickly things have change in the past thirty years And my grandfather saw that that changing tide as as an abominable thing something that God was going to punish not just was going to punish but was punishing this nation for and so because it was this constant you know Ellen came out and you know there's all these These cultural moments and he thought and we as Bible preachers needed to go and be out there representing God side of the matter and tell me about the tactics though the disgusting things that you would yell at people. Why is it that these tactics? You saw your church size as biblically appropriate and and not the other messages that say speak to people with love. Love being you're driving virtue. The greatest of these is love. So tell me about that. I mean it goes back to west bras throws understanding of what it means to love right so love thy neighbor. The first time that appears in the Bible is limited kiss nineteen versus seventeen and eighteen and it says thou shalt not hate thy neighbor neighbor and Linhart but thou shalt anyway. I'm sorry non. Hey brother nine hard. But thou shalt any Wise Review Kim and not suffer his sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge nor bear any grudge against the children of their people but thou shalt love thy neighbor as they self so for us. That was a very clear indication. That says you shouldn't hate your neighbor but you should rebuke him. mm-hmm when you see him sending it's the idea is in the comparison. The Church would always make you see somebody like wondering out into traffic. You have a duty to say. Hey stuff that you're going to get hurt. And it was similar idea like somebody is committing sinful acts then God is going to curse them in this life and then send them to hell in the next one of your God hates your feelings. What about within the family was that the environment in the house don't have feelings? God hates your feelings. Applies is specifically to any thought or feeling you have. That goes against what how westbrook understands the Bible and so yes absolutely any indication that you did did not like what was being required of you was going to be met with severe punishment and physical. Punish you as you meaning. Yeah and you you so you mentioned earlier like how. How is it that that that this has taken such hold of their minds? How how does that become so deeply ingrained into you and part part of it is at because as a child it is physically beaten into you and that is not something that you know? It's something that my family has long denied It was far worse from my mom's generation that it was even for me and even even you know for my siblings on me I would use the word abuse although it still. It's still hard to use that word to acknowledge it but but that's you know eventually fear of God replaces fear of pain. Fear of Hell replaces fear of that physical pain. When when did it start to change for you? I got on twitter in two thousand nine and the first you know at that point. We were very heavily focused on the Jewish community. And so so you know I wrote my cousin you know. She sends me this list of the one hundred. Most influential Jews on twitter and number two on that list was a man named David. ABITBOL rent a blog called Jewish and so he was one of the first people that I targeted And by targeted you may mean I was just sending wasn't a threat or anything it was tweets Twat shouldn't say it was. It was a threatening hell but you know just basically saying Jews need to really repent of their sins and you know he missed the tone of my tweet tweet and and said thanks. Megan that's handiwork. Young could work coming up and and so then I made sure I was new to it so my next post. I made sure I wouldn't be misunderstood what I said. Jewish customs are dead wrote rituals. That will take them all to hell and his response was really swift. Cutting an angry as Howard describen even and but almost immediately his tone changed. He realized that I was sincere. That I really believe that what I was doing was the right it thing and so he started making these arguments. He started asking questions trying to understand where I was coming from And this was happening not it was happening with David. It was also happening winning with quite a few other people. David Specific Role. That early on was that he found after about a year of conversation he found the first internal inconsistency in our ideology and there was no answer from the Bible to explain it. What was it do you remember absolutely? Yep I'll never forget We H- he was asking about one of our protest signs that was calling for the death penalty for gays. And you know he's he. He said I he quoted The New Testament where Jesus says let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Like didn't Jesus say And I said yes. We're not casting stones. Were preaching words. That's how we always answered that. And he said Yeah. But you're advocating that. The government cast stones which was like kind of seventy back for a second and then he said and also. What didn't your mother have your oldest brother out of wedlock and I said yes? And she repented of that sin and so she doesn't deserve that punishment because yeah but if she had been executed executed she wouldn't have had the opportunity to repent and be forgiven. So why are you advocating the death penalty for these people with the. Why are you taking away trying to take away this opportunity to repent and so those two arguments those two things like addressed you know we had these responses these canned responses? I mean and we really believed that the they they seem to be correct answers And then he showed the inconsistency there what was the tipping point that made you feel and believe that you had to leave the first contradiction that David found that was extremely destabilizing. For me right it was it was like I said it was the first time time that I had come to realize that we could be wrong. and then also within the church. This group of men decided that that they were the ones who should be ruling the church that they should be the ones in this in these leadership positions And so they were early on. It was like overnight. They took over it was without. There was no vote. There was no in the way that Westbrook Wpro is always operated was that everything had to be done. You know with unanimity like sort of anybody disagreed. If anybody thought that we shouldn't take this action we wouldn't so The fact that this group of men just took over and then they started doing things that I I believe runs scriptural. So for instance photo shopping themselves into into into pickets that they had not actually attended so it was all to get attention for the message right because remember for them. That's the only goal is to publish this message. That is the truth of God for you to contemplate leaving. I mean that must have been devastating. I don't I don't know any other way to describe it. I mean how did did you finally decide that you had to leave so I you know. Come come to this understanding that. I had this list of things that I that that I believed. were an umbilical on scriptural. And you know eventually when I realized it wasn't just these few things I came to believe we were just people like I had always seen us as this divine institution that God himself was leading. Jesus Christ himself was leading leading Westboro Baptist Church and when. I came to believe that that that wasn't the case anymore. You know there was a very brief moment where I thought could I pretend to go along with this just so I could keep my family and almost immediately no no. There's no chance that I'm going to keep doing these things that I understand are wrong. That are devastating to other people And this was one of the things that after I left. David was instrumental after. I left to helping me realize that there were things I could do to to repair. Prepare to make amends. He told me about this concept in. Judaism call tycoon law which means to repair the world. He said you and your family have added to the broken in the world and you have a duty beauty as much as you can to find a way to repair some of it and that was just really hopeful moment. I don't have to in fact running away and hiding doesn't change anything. It doesn't do anything thing to to convince my family to change their ways and it doesn't help any of the people that I spent all those years hurting. Do you have any relationship with your family now my family. They cannot have anything to do with us. They they believe that their duty is to deliver me to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. So are they praying for your death. The way that they prayed eight for other people's deaths I think I think maybe I don't know about my parents. Initially I I will say this is something this praying for people to die thing That's something that I came to believe on scriptural and for years I made these arguments to my family in writing. And you know privately in letters that didn't get responses And in interviews and and for a while they just double down eventually. They came to stop doing it so they I mean. There are several instances like that of things that that I came to believe or on scriptural and from the outside have been reaching out to them trying to find ways of helping them moderate to change their minds signs on these on these issues so that they don't do as much damage to other people. How can you reach out to them though when they won't talk to you? It's very one sided. It's it's basically basically me writing But the thing about one of the wonderful things about twitter is that it gives me a window into what they're thinking what they're preaching. How do things are changing? And so that that's my window. That's how I know. How things are? You know what what's happening there and where I can. It's basically doing what David did for me. Except they're not you know they're not they're not answering. You still love them. I do absolutely absolutely and I'm sure they I'm sure sure. They are frustrated with how I show that love now and that I am out here basically trying to dismantle this thing that they have come to build But it but you know I I do I love them I care about them. I understand that they're I understand that they're well intentioned that they're they're trying to do what they believe is right and for me. That's that's a hopeful thing right because that is something that I can if we can find a way of reframing it helping them see outside of this doggedly persistently closed the system that they were raised in Again that there's hope for change. Do you still have faith. And if so in what I. I'm not religious anymore but I absolutely am a believer in in humanity in the power of human connection in the idea of grace. You know people people had grace for me. I seemed not deserve it. The most and the fact that they were able to suspend their judgments long enough to have those conversations with me completely changed my life and it turned me so now instead of me being out there with Westboro creating living new victims. I'm now again working for healing and change and tried to try to repair some of that damage. That is huge and it all came from that that little but but that willingness to suspend judgment to become curious to to realize that I had been raised in this that it was no. That's that grace. I really believe in it so I will say I'm not religious anymore but I have totally still feel like a believer in so many ways making Philip Super. Thank you so much for talking with US thank you. And that's a positive note to end on. That's it for now. Remember you can listen to a podcast. See US online at Amazon Dot Com and follow me on Instagram unt. Thanks for watching and goodbye from London. Yeah are you interested in learning how great companies grow. 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2. From Communism to Kleptocracy
"This is the story of the biggest in history. Steel of the resources of the biggest country in the world Russia by its own government Kremlin. Click THE RUNS. The country like his own personal bank at leak of bandits. It's also the story of how Russia is using every part of its state machinery and a war. Many of us don't even realize is taking place to subvert democracy worldwide in this episode. We're looking back at the fall of the Berlin Wall and subsequent bay the fall of communism. And how those events shape the future of Russia. Mister Gorbachev tear down this wall and in the big steel. We're telling the extraordinary story of how in one generation Russia went from communism to Kleptocracy at its heart how the Russian government stole the country's biggest oil company you cost from its shareholders and put the monitors helm in jail for ten years. Mikhail Khordokovsky was sentenced to nine years in prison for fraud and tax evasion conviction that raised eyebrows throughout much of the West because quarter Kofsky had been a longtime political rival of President Putin. The principal beneficiary of the big steel is Russia's President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and his behavior is ruthless. If we look at the spate of assassinations. I'm not just talking about scruples. Nippy yonkers we know about but the Chechen fundraisers gunned down in Turkey and so forth. This is clearly a problem with violence to begin to understand all this and why defects not just Russia. But all of us today. We need to take a brief step back to the extraordinary events at the end of the Cold War in one thousand nine hundred nine the West one and was triumphant. Some spoke of the end of history. The Berlin Wall fell the Soviet Union and communism collapsed but from chaos a new Russia had to arise and a new historical struggle began. John Camp Noor is journalist and friend of mine extraordinary times and I. I still blink to think about those times politically. You'd never knew from date state. What was going to happen so things were happening in the way people being killed people being killed in Georgia all kinds of revolutions were happening in the Soviet republics. And you didn't know how they were going to end up where the people were just got massacred and and the old order reestablished or if the domino's would start to fall and that continued through the coup in August one thousand nine hundred ninety one which again was extraordinary. It was over in three days bought. It could just as easily have ended with the reestablishment of strong Stalinist authority. No one knew what the future held perhaps hardline communism would return with purges and mass killings. Instead in the first democratic elections ever for the Russian republic Boris Yeltsin came to power he thwarted the August coup hardliners brought his reformist predecessor. Mikhail Gorbachev Back to Moscow and rearrange the old Soviet Empire into a new Commonwealth of Independent States. Things looked good but those he wanted more Western style. Reforms had to move fast fast Mikhail Code Kofsky Russia's richest man until he crossed Vladimir Putin told me why he backed Yeltsin meet some racial issue. Cheese Yeltsin became president for years later. Nine thousand nine hundred one and to begin with at the beginning of his regime. Nothing much had changed in terms of the opportunities for entrepreneurs so when we were standing a supporting Jensen on their White House our White House barricades. We were fighting against the return of the old Soviet regime. So not the Gorbachev regime the pre Gorbachev regime the Soviet Union formerly died on December. The Twenty Sixth Nineteen ninety-one Seventy years of communism were flushed away but the new Russia was in chaos trying to change its entire political and economic systems at the same time for some chaos brings Opportunity Mikhail Khodorkovsky then. A young entrepreneur had played the old Soviet system and created a small business in the nineteen eighties so insignificant that the Communist authorities didn't interfere with do yes. Those doors McAfee. I set up my own small business which was a cafe for Young People. But YOU HAVE. Everybody thought all that will said okay a few years. We'll give you a few years and then in the end up in prison at the time. Then did you think I'll set a small business. That might make a bit of money. But in the end they might close me down. Because that's the sort of thing that might happen or did you think maybe Russia was a different capitalists. For what a better word capitalist party any more Thompson on Tuesday scare. I didn't think that Russia was setting off on a different different capitalist. Thought we saw it in the kind of Soviet terms with all that it was something in terms of self sufficiency ability to get payback for the money. Invested to your nearest bringing. The Cook. Certainly didn't see it as the beginning of capitalism just to be clear in Soviet Russia prophet was a dirty word. Even small-time capitalist risked being shot in the one thousand nine hundred under President Gorbachev the Kremlin relaxed the rules and by the nineteen nineties. Boris Yeltsin's government recognized that a new Russia demanded new skills. Khordokovsky became a Yeltsin economic adviser. He had money some influence and big ideas. How much of a difference then did Yeltsin and privatization make I know books have been written on the Serbs difficult to answer? But how much of a difference do you think you really make? Some people think too quickly wasn't done done properly others say it was inevitable and it should be done quickly reason. You like everything. In human life your question could have two equally pertinent answers so new sternly a middling on the one hand it would have been very dangerous to move ahead slower than they did and there were two reasons Pacino blood which is the political reason was political purely political because the guide government thought that the window unity was going to be very spoiled and the second was economic economic reason under the Soviet Union factories enterprises plans. We're not really proper. Factories manufacturing plants in the proper sense. And you believe company moves up. Their BUSINESSES DOT COM business really ministers the ministries were businesses. So for instance their oil industry ministry was the equivalent of Exxon British. Petroleum Stallini axl cursed. The and each individual plant to enterprise could be seen as a branch of that lodge. Exxon of that ministry and that branch didn't have to worry about anything. You didn't have to worry about. Technology is because the technologies were supplied by the ministry that large. Exxon didn't have to think about procuring equipment because that was also the plan for procuring equipment was also provided by the ministry the Lodge Exxon. Nor did it have to worry about the sales because that was also taken care of by ministers so let's say use war but when there was this collapse of the Soviet Union the kind of food lines of the Soviet Union started to pool apart and slowly union started to move the republic studying away and at the same time the pricing on the market started playing according to market laws. This is when it changes ritual excellent a Nubia stellar storage So these large Exxon's these ministries ceased to exist for political reasons while what whereas all the enterprises each had to become a business? The most Zuma Business Kazaa coadjutor business. Those people who had nothing to do with businesses before and where accidentally unprepared to be at the head of businesses sodden found themselves managers or CEO's of visitors. This is why there was a total collapse of industry subsequently in the burden but says it shook did this and the government decided that the only solution would be privatization in order to bring this new class of entrepreneurs businessmen into managing these companies. And at the time there were very few those business people around this is why it took so long haul process basically stretched out from one thousand nine hundred thirty two ninety ninety six for four years. He was thirty a style. Knee almost become used to sort of community and at the same time. It was too fast. We're talking about the population of one hundred and forty five million people out of who maybe from ten to at most one hundred thousand people really understood what was taking place for age reasons. Educational background leases for the way they were informed or had not been informed tunic over. Anemia was more or less breads cigarettes. Do I need the rest? Say hundred million people minus children hundred million people were just not ready for the traveler nation crisis which started and therefore this vast population as a result prioritization became loses over that process. Not because somebody made them into losers but because they were not there hadn't been prepared for the brightest privatization process and of course had they had the opportunity which the Czech Republic gave its population to have some time to make head to tail of what was happening because we have arrived at a very different understanding of privatization and wouldn't have felt deprived of everything they had before or being on the losing side and therefore such words as market economy or democracy wouldn't have been so mired in negatively as they came to be called a cough ski when we met in London is engaging witty and reflective. But it's still difficult to imagine. How cafe-owner small-time entrepreneurs with some political experience could end up starting small bank menotep and then taking a great leap to running one of the world's most profitable energy businesses? You 'cause all in a few years of swain business okay. So I was developing my own business at the time and I did have some role to play in the government of reformers or at the time. Not at the level of the cabinet of ministers but the level of a member of the government MOSO MINISTRY AT THE LEVEL OF MINISTRY. So but let's say and my understanding of privatization was in conflict with the idea that the government had the time to put ship and therefore had today said. I'm going to leave and I would make good use of the errors that were making didn't want to heed my words okay. I'm going to make good use of their is. They were going to make he has. It wasn't the most proper way to behave a but I felt hurt so I left and I went on to do things which I felt was possible. As a result of old mistakes they had made or making in the wild west of Russia in the nineteen ninety s clear lines between business corruption crime and political power just didn't exist. The new Russia was for some at least the land of Opportunity Makovsky so is big chance and took it. His Bank menotep bought the state oil company Yukos nowadays and even back then ordinary Russians claimed their publicly owned state assets. The family silver were being sold off cheap to a few speculators million SORTA living standards fall while a small group were to become unbelievably rich. Other say that Khordokovsky did what anyone with his abilities would have done and help. Prevent Strategic Russian assets being brought up by foreign or global corporations either way if the prophets were enormous so would the risks by Nineteen ninety-eight. You cost shares fell to one tenth of the sale price but Khordokovsky was reforming the company investing in workers new technology bringing in new ideas and experienced managers from the West Accountants. Pw See and consultants McKinsey. It meant that by two thousand and three Yukos bounce back and was so successful it started to attract the attention of big foreign investors but that international interest meant conforming to international business standards. Khordokovsky decided to change. You cost to operate more transparently. With a clearer management structure an accounting practices more like the West Swedish economist and Russia. Expert and Zaslov takes up a story. What happened is you came under the control of embankment attack that was dominantly owned by Michaela Kofsky at the end of ninety five and then it took four years for your cause really to sort itself out and by that. I mean it needed to get control over. Fbi sets as it was van in the Post Soviet Russia. You didn't know what the old there were nuclear distinction what was yours and What was that you had to? Essentially establish through the hard core core fights and be only way of getting back down it was to become the majority owner and sort out minority. Shareholders often node managers and workers because they did not quite knew how to handle it and objected to everything and were often taken over by hostal interest so took four years before you sorted it out but then from ninety nine to two thousand four. You'll was a star performer. Inda Russian economy in every regard. It had the great corporate governance it's stocks skyrocketed and its production skyrocketed your head more than fifty percent increase in about four years. Connor Kofsky in the nine hundred ninety S. Been a young man in a hurry. But by the end of the decade he started to think more about the predicament of the Russian people and their future a potentially rich country with tens of millions of poor people threw ME JESSICA LYNCH. We each representative Strenu- in because the buffum economic and political crisis taking place in the country. There was another presses running alongside. Yes live that was me getting more mature and older whilst in Nine Hundred Ninety one was only twenty eight years of us but owned and perhaps did not really understand other people's problems so well I was thirty five in one thousand nine hundred. A double Greece's Presi- short general stores do seeing the crisis of nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. I was really impacted by it quite heavily and the crisis opened my eyes to many things because I had to spend a long time a lot of time talking to different people so people who worked in the oilfields that belong to my company and in the enterprises in the plants. Heaver Touchy Cook. The SADDAD said luminious deluge. I asked them support. Although I realized they way in fact in a really difficult to tation themselves much of the and I did get this support and I felt responsibility of huge responsibility on my shoulders so when my own situation got better I felt the need to pay back to give back to the people were they had in. Fact lent me my business with them. Directly option and so all the different projects including open Russia's with the result with the support of my business partners that awareness that suddenly came upon me. I get the impression that the older you thirty five. Look back at the younger you as if you would been some kind of co boy in the wild west and then you kind of decided. It was time to do something different. Is that fair way of putting it? Yes indeed well doing something. Different is exactly what Khordokovsky decided to do. Evening is to result in a disastrous conflict with Vladimir Putin but at first through his western-style reforms the company survived and thrived and became a model others could follow by two thousand and three. Yukos was the biggest tax payer in Russia but politics and money in Russia are inextricably linked suspected. The company's Success Mankato Kofsky had political ambitions. There were claims. He paid for political influence in the Russian parliament. The Duma something of a Russian tradition others speculated he wanted business links with foreigners and was being wooed by America's biggest oil company. Exxon Mobil one of those paying close attention. I'm not in a good way was -demia Putin next week on the big steel Putin makes his move. I think that the food was very deliberate from the beginning. Putin stands for two things. Kgb and organized crime the secret police and organized crime and that means power and Mommy and their severest image making not dissension about the clash that sealed Khordokovsky fate. When Russia's richest man publicly criticized Russia's most powerful leader live on Russian television? 'cause the Euro Sushi. When I spoke at that meeting with Putin I wasn't taking on too personally. I was speaking in favor of one choice against the choice. Your School Kush and yes. It was a difficult situation because I had spoken flash floods. His face suggest. It's interesting that this harsh words are absent from the Youtube Recording. That you have seen the big steel was presented by me. Gavin Slur and produced by Martin Points Roberts at fresh air. Please make sure you subscribe to the series so you don't miss an episode.
Dreams/Do You Believe In Signs?
"Hello guys looking back to teenager. Therapy Isaac M Kayla as you can see unfortunately guile and Tom. Sorry here because they had something to do. But is this our first podcast with nocturnal thing? Every episode Haggai on it. And it's just like you. And Isaac. Yeah this Oughta trio were never had A. We had a tree before when it was just me. it's always been like we realize it or Mikhail Mark and then Mikhail Thomas whenever I can take a moment to coin T. Kayla. You're talking about a tweet or tick tock you all right. Oh yeah so basically I forgot which was but it was basically this person. Say like Has Thinking about the past and that was it and I was like well. How how do they know because for me you know about the parents? Yes I have and I didn't I. I thought I thought it was just me? I don't know I'm stupid. But I guess not just me like people got like so many likes Omar boy I have. I have my dreams especially home. I keep dreaming a lot of dreams. It's been happening to me. I know it's very very well like we'll see my dreams. They're all like really estate you. They're not like the fantasy or you know you're put in random world or stuff like that but it's more like really a it's new Audi like Iraq dreams where I was in school. Chilling with people had where I was with you guys. This is going and stuff like that so I had. Yeah I mean like I think it's because like I'm not hanging out with you guys or hanging out with people in general which is why not like Like a missing missing missing you guys. So that's why I'm having no gene. Maybe I haven't had much. I mean I had one because you days ago but it was so weird had like people that I didn't know why my dreams were dreams like random people from school you berryman and talk to Yeah I was like like. Is this a signer son? Odd Get those signs or something like offering yes the house noses way I honestly do believe in signs like just like if something happens. I've everything happens for a reason. You know what I'm saying. Everything does happen for a reason. So everything is an of something you know those tweets and talks. Where if you're looking at this this is inside. I believe so because some of them are so spot on how they they have become happen as not tongue when it was like so spot on dude I I believe it sometimes especially with specific and it relates to be. I believe it I had a dream and it was just. It was weird. I can you think about 'cause add like people that I didn't Orleans make you feel like going on here okay. Did you enjoy or did you feel sad from it or like what? No I enjoyed is a fun. Dream Look like hanging out. Who's weird? I don't know you guys are real lot of genes onto. I want like all like too. I remember well I remember distinctly but one of my recent ones like really sad like I don't know why it was so sad why I was on the train right the movie on the train and like I think I don't even know. I think I was like kindergarten Like when I was a kid right and each time it stopped I would go off in. It would be like a memory from my childhood or like in my life like one. I'm with my family in Mexico. One when I'm doing like detainee now with my childhood friends and then it was like I don't know why I miss those time so much. It's like some static your reminiscing about believed in that tweet. When you said it like it was so sad and everything saw associates now especially like when I think about the past like normally I would do that. But like recently importing. I've just been doing more and I think I just keep on romanticizing the past like I keep on making. It seem A bigger deal than it was. You know what I'm saying. Does that mean anti nothing yet or just did here and do nothing. I keep on ing like I think I don't know I'm just romanticizing Diagnosed that's not what happened to happen. I think that's on the. Stodgy works though like ever seen like a movie. When you're a kid and and like you love that movie and then you watch it like right now and like the one before. Yeah Yeah I think. That's how Sasha works were your favorite movie because a part of your life back then you know. Wow that was good for. That's with the polar express like that movie. That movie is so. Iconic LOOK provide child. Abc Family on. I think Disney Channel Disney channel movie. Hot CHOCOLATE THE HOT CHOCOLATE SAMPLE. Ugly so hyped. Just drink hot chocolate because of that. Oh my God I think I still remember the song to like hot. Ooh You hot remember united now mark you said you watched a video about something or like reminiscing. Yeah this video. It's a news channel basically or kind of something. No no no no not do love Jubilo I know right I especially love the moment. You don't talk about. Oh like five. Five blink blink. Yeah yeah and they figured out the mole when they whoever wins gets the money that but anyways of this video right. They said that there was a drastic increase in Google search. Why do I keep dreaming of my ex? Oh my God at around this time you drain of your Ex. I'm be honest it happened one time. It's okay okay was happening doctor. Something like that but it looked weird really weird like why she was just August chilling. It was like a normal day of I didn't like notice her face until I actually looked at it and like oh it's you you're my dream but yeah. I mean that's just like the only case where I jumped off my pretty much as and I think I saw combat under that video Like maybe a reason I jumped of people or like your actions because you still want them in your life or you saw go from something or you're just thinking something that could have happened but did any of that relate to your jury a little. I guess a little a little reach out to them now. I mean this kind of like so long on you know all along after I woke up after I am finished. I dream like I just started thinking like there was something there you know like I. I doubt there before. I'M GONNA love but doubted that. There is like an attraction or there was like something special. There doubted that before. But now thinking back like I really Disregarded the The good sides and I just kept looking at the bad sides but Lino in reality. There was good science and like she wasn't really cool person. You know I feel like when you see somebody your dreams than like just everything not everything about them but like the memories that you had within like in real life than you just think about. That is just like I would do that. You know or you wish you didn't dream about them. They ask some of the people just like. Why are you my dreams? Like I don't really know you like all my friends and my dreams where they ride dirty now. I think I think they're just like random people from school during passing period or something we unconsciously in your mind because you saw them so much day to day not possibly possibly like NFL teams like high saying like my childhood than watch out to friends like some of these people just like allender where they are. Now you know like I really wish I could talk to them again Sino. I wonder if the fill the same they want us. Oh my God dude say Like do they think about new. Sometimes like I think if I think about them sometimes are they mirror. My dislike making up this whole thing in my head. We ask sometimes just like damn. I wish I could talk to you again because like I don't know when your kids like everything is just so innocent like natural. You know Now's instagram's does like followed by ten. Even find their social media. Like I feel kit of it's a chance and like I'm just really hoping like one day I just come across some store or something. Yeah I think it will happen. I mean I think I know what you're going to say it's meant to be happy that it isn't it is worth this to be happy. Oh Yes yes. Yes that that Co. There's always like conflicting sites that quote this like if it's meant to be but then there's also like if you don't try them like you know I get there's two different types of people one. There's one I believe if feel in my head it's still happen will happen. And there's the other one that is like what's the other side. It is what it is going. Don't you just yeah? Yeah you are like you need to put an effort like if you don't do it then we'll make it will happen. Ah like you have to make it happen. Which are you guys from Isaac? I I wanna hear how you think. I don't think things are just meant to happen. I feel like you have to try in. It'll happen I can kick ivy like from you most of the time. I'm like it is what it is. You know like I feel like just play itself out but there's times I'm just like what the hell am I doing like? Are you do something Yeah okay that I can't change than it is what it is for me. Okay that make sense so it makes sense. I see people sides both sides because like there is some things that you can't change and if you try so hard to like to make it happen you just pretty much wasting time just we sing yourself in your value and stuff like that that right so maybe it's important that to know that it is what it is. That's why I can't like my cat. I myself Kinda choose. It's really conflicting for me. Like for example. Let's say let's say you need a job or something and you're just staying and you're not even like trying to find a job that you can't really be like oh it is what it is because you're not even putting effort is feel like you're just not living offensive. You're just. You're just looking for excuses to making excuses risk for yourself. Janda easier path case. It's important to if you want something. Go ahead and get it for me at. I mean if I had the Cheetah's I'd personally I lean more towards the If I wanted to make happen that's what I like it. Definitely you know if you put in the kid Coming GETTING THE RESULT. You want but future sitting there waiting for it to happen like what if we just never happened like what are you waiting for like a day? Obviously you need to put in some effort. You know what? I'm saying that initiatives Shit I I had in my head cases where you do peninsula effort by. Don't get what you you whatever you want So like what would you do? You know what would you guys do? If if you put into a prudent effort into something and they like totally failed. Would you be discouraged? Would ever do it again? Like what's up. I mean if it's like something that I really want like I feel passionate about than others. Keep on trying opposite like I think it's important to take break sometimes. Clear Your Mind. Then try again. But that's what you like. If it's something that I really truly care about I feel like if I feel discouraged after putting on my passion into something. I'm racquel discouraged into putting my effort into other things because if I put effort into the one thing I wanted the most and I put it all in in fail. The what makes me think like that out. Get it. Royals weren't putting in the effort. Okay I could see that I can see that. See your point so announcements today. How many days ago? Two days ago it was my birthday. Her Kid when seven. Yes I decided. Thank you to everybody who wish me have birthday got so many. Dm's from you guys honestly like me and my birthday talking to you guys. I was like replied to dance like an hour or two. Also really nice talking to you guys to think you even though we're in quarantine so I like my birthday like surprisingly I was expecting for it to be kind of a bad day but while that's everything thank you. All for very with the since guy wasn't here lead us but I still feel like we did a good job. I'm proud of us. So thank you guys for listening bye bye.
#13: MORNING MESSAGES Spark Your Curiosity
"My friend, Steven Kotler. Is a magnificent human being he is a New York Times bestselling author many times over. And, he has dedicated his life to understanding our optimal states of being. We call it flow, but there's it's really a spectrum of states from from being deeply embodied in. A meditative state to being higher than a kite. Are climbing wall or scaling amount, and were surfing wave. And I've I've spent so much time understanding optimal states of being. Because at the end of it, all at the end of the day. We are. We're wired to look for pleasurable. Experiences and it doesn't have to mean decadent or leisure. You know pleasurable experiences can be just simply being. Fully immersed in a project at work where you lose your sense of time and sense of self. And this is what? Our enthusiasm, this is where our enthusiasm takes us. When we are so excited and. Intrigued, and the word of the day is curious about something about an activity or subject or. A creative. Project we lose ourselves. And that brings US alive. That helps us to shift out of this. Just the drudgery of thinking all day planning all day to this delightful dance of aliveness. And you deserve that you deserve to feel alive. It's our birthright to feel curious. Enthusiastic. And it doesn't mean it has to happen twenty, four seven. But if it's not happening that much, then I encourage you to start looking at what you're curious about until I want to offer you today a quick exercise that I learned from Stephen and I believe that Steven learned from Mikhail check set me high, who is kind of our modern modern father of flow state or or or peak experience, and so this is a simple exercise in understanding what you are curious about. It's been hugely helpful for me and a do it probably every six weeks. oftentimes, I'll do it when I started new journal. and. I'll just start that journal with this exercise. So. Here we do here goes you WANNA list out the numbers one through twenty five. Put at the top. Things I'm curious about. And spend a few minutes and write down everything that you are currently. Curious about. And then they could be totally random things. Such as I. I did this exercise with a few a few people on my team. In my in my mental wellness business. We were doing this exercise because when you find out what you're curious about it really brings you alive and one of our our our love lease said, you know curious about UFO's and extraterrestrials. That is awesome. Right. So I could be so vague like that or random. What are you curious about? Right. down. Right down, and then the second step is to spend fifteen minutes a day or more. But let's start with fifteen minutes a day. Down a rabbit hole. Allow yourself to go on wikipedia. You know go down those rabbit holes by clicking on the links. Give Yourself. That freedom. To Google it. To research it to. Dive into some video or to buy a book about it. This is what keeps US sparked. Sparked and curious. And it doesn't have to be work related and it doesn't have to be enlightened. Right? It can be anything under the Sun. What are Hugh curious about? Right now. Go. Have some fun. Let me know what you find I would love to hear email me Hello Ed Karen Bradley Dot Net Find Me and message me on social media. I absolutely love hearing from you. It makes my day absolutely also if you're curious about working with me Checkout, project be well, it's a monthly program that I am collaborating with a bunch of other G- wellness coaches, and there's and this is a really fantastic way to work with me. So check out the show notes I've got lots of stuff there. I also put a couple of. PODCASTS and related items of other things that I've done. If you want a deeper dive I, know these are super short, sometimes leave you hanging So always go to those show notes in the details to find out more. Thank you so much for joining. I, am having so much fun with this I. Hope that you're having fun to be well.
Pay It Forward Friday: Siobhan McHale
"Hey everyone and welcome to another paid forward Friday episode where we highlight people that we are doing a great job a Polish leadership content resonates with us. We will include links to their work intact him on our post to make sure they know we appreciate them. This is our way to say. Thanks to other leaders and individuals that are having a positive impact on helping others become better leaders the Sheridan your thoughts opinions and ideas online for all to see and hear. Christina have always wanted to use our platform to advocate for other people passionate about leadership and give our listeners as much content as possible to help sharpen their own skills through different perspectives and approaches. If you would like us to check out any specific please tagged them in the comments or send us a message with links to their content. Also please take the Lincoln the bio to take a quick seven question survey about Leadership Christner writing our next book and we greatly appreciate your opinion on this episode. I want to recognize Chevanton. Mikhail Chaban is a culture transformer author of the insiders Guide Culture Change and executive general manager of people culture and change at a deluxe group are recently connected with Chaban Lincoln and have really enjoyed her content and thoughts on culture in a four step process for performance driven managers in a recent interview by Sarah. Ellis Jack Chaban shared and I quote one of the big mistakes that people can make is that they tend to focus on the dancers. Not The dance. What do I mean by that? Managers can focus on the individual behaviors rather than seeing the collective patterns. I really like this concept is. I've seen way too often. Leaders Focus on trying to fix the behaviors of individuals without taking into account the patterns of behaviors from the entire team or considering the lack of vision clear support that is causing or allowing the behavior do exist in the first place so I highly recommend checking nausea vons content and as usual I have included links to Harlington and the interview in the episode notes. Great Jobs Ron and thanks for helping others to Hashtag be a better leader. Thanks for listening. Let us know who else deserve Kudos?
Mikhail Kuznetsov - The Mindset Of A Multi - Million Dollar Marketer
"I have just launched a mastermind called the circle of influence Robbie taking you under my wing to show you how to build a platform online that generates an income for you so you can have more freedom in your life whilst we're gonNA show you how to become a powerful influence online. Today you can score interviews and so he can get exposure on major publications and platforms phones and I'm GonNa show you how to build these platforms yourself such as a website called caused youtube channel and at social media followings. You can get your message out there to the millions wasn't gonNA show you how to network with other incredible leaders on lines. You can interview Dan so that you can collaborate me damn and really show you how to refine in your story so you can share an unforgettable way to score more interviews to score book deals and to gain more speaking opportunities you can and become a powerhouse leader. This speaks to you. Make sure you head over to I am Joe Brown dot com slash apply and get in before before I close my doors on this live interactive exclusive opportunity. We're GONNA go deep with you and with the community a circle of influence game changes. Don't miss this now. Let's get into this entity. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the addicted to success podcast. I'm your host Joe. Brown and I'm here today today. With the man the myth the legend Maceio Kuznetzov Nuggets in Austin and Maceio and I have known each other for at elites six years we first met each other at high Lopez House in the Hollywood hills and I remember Maceio really being hands on with the marketing experience a tie was creating has his genius about him where he can see things that most people and he is really incredible tapping into the technical ankle side but also bringing the visionary aspect into how we build brands businesses and he has also had the opportunity to work with RSD guys real social dynamics. Yeah makes he's being behind. Also jump cuts regime incredible company that teaches you how to blow up on Youtube essentially and these are multi multi million dollar companies that he's being behind being very hands on with some excited for you guys to listen today to the wisdom that Miko has mcco. He's GonNa share with you some awesome techniques strategies and incredible insights into how you can really step in and blow your brand business and your message up to have more impact talked in this world so Mikhail. Thanks for jumping man. Thanks for having me brother. It's a pleasure to be here and really pumped man. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA unpack some knowledge today. It's going to be great. It's a really I think help people dial in to this fear point that we all have of our own powers humans that were kind of scared to unleashing the way I think it's I think we know it's there and we're kind of freaked out that we might become superheroes. If we unleash it might not be able to handle it you know so. I'm hoping to get at least one person person. That's listening to dial another super power and like just say you know what I'm going for it and give them the tools that they needed. Yes that sounds great to me. I do believe leave that when you have been in the game for awhile and you've really flexed and seeing what you're able to do you can have this fear of your potential right. It can't come into players like wow if I really stepped in and playing at twenty right now. Imagine what eighty percent or ninety percent would look like so for you. What do you believe. Is You operating at one hundred percent. How would that look for you so that we can get more how your morning ticks totally man so. I think there is this combination of predictive analysis in plus. Take so it's like. Do you have the skills. Can you actually be in flow freely enough to not have to think about applying those skills right. Look at any performer whether that's sports where that's business the sense of intangibles there that you can't truly break down in that as you know I mean I'm sure you've read the book flow talks about that so the way the way that I view that is this perfect thread of execution impact where every single micro element of your day actually has an impact potential Angela too so the web you'd has I if you spend you know you're like watching Netflix six well okay. You didn't really make an impact point day but if you spend your day doing something else then then you maximize your and professional so this idea of like this limited time ticker of our time rate of going okay well. Did I use up every little element of that resource that I had because of what I'm seeing over and over and over again is we're in this society. Where attention is the new commodity right. Everybody knows that instagram. It's like I catch myself checking instagram all the time writing. Did I get any. DM Oh more DM's on we got more stuff and then you look at those little micro elements and go wow I spent XYZ time like sand the spills out so if we're talking two hundred percent I'm kind of developing this theory of micro variance where it's really symbolic break it down really quickly before we kind of gone wants since he walked right. Listen you of every little micro decision you make is a disorder that so you choose to go build your business instead of of you know going out and partying you choose to do x y and then every decision is abyss then that position because he chose to build your business were able to have conversations about. Mel Business and different doors are going to open so you're asking a hundred percent question because I'm very meticulous in optimization that hundred percent question comes down to making a perfect secret micronutrient decisions than add up to maximum output and impact for that particular Take a you know a chunk of twenty hours. Did we make the most optimal decisions during that time to have the maximum impact and just to be clear that doesn't just apply to finance that applies to happiness levels at applies to impact levels with relationships ships applies to some spiritual aspects as well so we're not just talking just chased money were also saying are you staying in balance and in harmony with yourself as a human being the the potential that you have so that maybe a little bit over some people's heads but I think it's really important because like as a marketer and you're phenomenal marketers well. It's our job literally to put people's attention into our into arlene right and so you have a this hyper competitive culture where everybody's fighting for the attention of everybody everybody else and that creates the greatest very orienting a reality for most people because most people don't understand what's going on the they're not familiar with NLP they they just don't have the tools to be aware of their unconsciousness and so what's happening is these people are getting distracted. They're getting knocked off their path and then they're finding themselves. You know a a year or ten years later going wait a minute. I had this big dream and what happened. I got distracted. I got I got sidetracked and I see over again in the truly believe like if we want and to have an amazing planet in an amazing culture as humans for the future of our species that we are here we need. We need to dial in on some of these little micro so that's what that's what a hundred getting out sequence perfect and then making maximum impact votes a love it man. I love that we just go to dive into your mind and see how you operate there today and it is true. It's focused one day at a time a light that you've looked at it like because you know what we can do often can put so much weight on on our shoulders because we're comparing ourselves so often to everyone else but we need to like. Do it big member. We'll just talking about this before. The call is difference between being big and being great and and so many people are trying to be big nowadays as like this kind of scream above the noise to try and get out there when really if you really care about what you do and your authentically choosing wait this actually does light me up and I care about this and I wanted to deliver this value to the world through my products and services then you focus on being great right and actually getting results and his little long-term play. It's very interesting to watch the scape. I mean I know you've you've been doing this is probably as long as even longer in more than a decade in the online world and just so much noise is out there but what I love about that is that there's going to be a lot of people willing to really step up and do it right because they're trying to take shortcuts shortcuts along the way totally to do that. I think the biggest thing providing people is being human being vulnerable easy to not be human right one of the the a really great marketer friend of mine told me he's like people only see what your show them. People only see what you show them and this is so true right was over media. It's like you can you can paint the perfect canvas. Put that out out there and that's it and then it doesn't leave any room for you to be human at that point and become so easy to do that that is become almost baitual where look look getting the perfect filter getting the perfect post. Getting perfect is getting imperfect that and so I think the human element is what we need to come back to what we're going to see is a big slingshot effect and we're ready kind of seeing it right. Where do you look historically. The the Internet got great right the Internet's like a baby still like as you and I are having this conversation. It's it's it's in it's infancy and so created and then what happened was all these marketers came out and they can offer anything without any repercussion for having even fulfill it then all this the trust level dropped right the trust level drop up because people you know there wasn't really accountability marketplace and so now what we're seeing is this personal branding because the idea with the personal brandon brandon goes he can put a face off. You can put a face on it. It feels congruent. It feels honest and it breaks through this idea of like wearing the masks but to do that. It's the you have to be here to be human. You have to be comfortable trouble with your own. Boehner abilities human you have to be comfortable with your own fears with your own ambitions and be a little bit more unapologetic. I think too many people make excuses excuses for the things that they truly want to do and they justify and if I can make one recommendation one of the big things that scene across the board with the money mindsets of every single person that I've worked with. Is there unapologetic about the things that they WANNA do and they they don't even acknowledge the obstacles it's not even a breakthrough obstacles this kind of thing it's non acknowledgement. It's passing through lightly without even consciously being aware that there was an obstacle at all and I think that that comes down to being so oh confident with the fact that were human or mortal one day we're GONNA die. Time is limited. We get a chance to make an impact. That's it going for. It and I think what's he made got decision. I'm going for it to not revisit that decision again. I think that's a huge one. Where like I'm GonNa go for it and then when things get tough people were like go back like maybe I shouldn't do. The notes like once once you've committed. That's you don't have to go back to that decision ever again and it just push push forward. That's it. You've made the focus your bandwidth on making other decisions. There's actually make it happen. Instead of re considering whether or not you should be doing that. You're supposed to be doing yeah. It's funny. It's like move with haste but also be patient as his dance between the through and this is entrepreneurship as what it what it is and you step in and to build something greater than where you currently are. It's GonNa require a lot from you a lot of discipline and we have a lot of listeners that are listening to this podcast right now that are working nine to five in the hamster wheel of life. Some people like the job the people I don't know I didn't really they're stuck in this loop. In this sailing. I want to create a business. I WanNa build something that has meaning compact that also brings in well so I have security and freedom and power and all those other things are just from your experience working with people like Tyler Pez and the jump cut guys is in RSD team these multi million dollar companies and they've had a lot of exposure to be marketed really well being behind all their marketing so you're doing something right right. What would you say to somebody that starting out right now. That's about to make the jump to start their own business. They know they need to go online to do it. What have you gone John from working with these three powerful companies that you would give as advice to new entrepreneurs okay so the first piece is going to be a a kind of a macro smaller pace but is very very important okay and that is get your money right now. Get the resource element of it correct. I just did a video about this. Call the influence or trap where it's so easy to go chase the likes and the followers in the comments and to get a totally sidetracked from the fact that are you building a business or make destroyed know whether it's time with us. Jump cut whether that'S D. Whether that's any of the other people that I work with it's it's a it's a it's a business understand okay. Making a post on instagram is not a business putting out a youtube video is not a business and I am me not because so many people get so sidetrack. They don't understand the monetization elements government like you're not going to be able to escape your nine to five with a just just just doing instagram right. You'll have to have the monetary model behind it and I think I think it should scare people. I think if it didn't scare people everybody would do it in it would actually get so saturated. Nobody would be you so I think the fact that that element adopting the first dip it should kind of freak you out and it should make you have that reality check of like when you hear. That is the first thing go like what what goes on in your mind is it oh well. I don't know what it takes to build a real business. I'm scared at freaks me out. I don't know if I have the tools if that's what it is you're on the right bike. Paths like you have to understand that if that's the first thing that triggers in your mind is I'm kind of freaked out that that's the tip. I don't really know how great a product. How do I monetize good good. Good good you eat now. It's not an unknown unknown anymore now. It's a known unknown you know what things you need to master with things you need to learn and what they need to develop and a successor awesome treat it like a business. Get your money right because the biggest thing there is once you free up your time than you can do it fulltime then. You don't have to juggle right. I spent years man I spent years being an executive in the company and building the executive moonlighting right. I mean it's a superman complex feeling oh totally yeah. I mean we talk about you. Know Shadow selves in all this we can go into stuff to for sure but I think that's something that I see so. Many people struggle according to a girl varies. She has million followers. She lives with two roommates right and I go. How do you live with your 'cause. He doesn't understand the business component so if you want to be a coach if you want to be speaker if you want to be an influence or a writer start asking yourself. How are you going to free up your time. Free up your time time because that's the critical that time is allow you to do the things to make the impact right like this right now. You and I are sitting here we are this is a seat. This is our time time being planted as a seed or those of you that are listening so that that seed in you can sprouted can grow in bear fruit in your life and for you that'd be able to make that same impact. You're going to need to have the potency of your time to be able to devote to it in concentration and attention decision making to That's the first step a the second tip master human psychology understand what makes you tick understand your strengths and your weaknesses and understand what makes other other people tick and then test test test test test don't end in the third tip will be don't worry about getting imperfect right off the bat because because I think too many people are like okay well. I don't have the perfect website. I don't have the perfect book cover. I don't have the perfect human psychology omit we can unpack more. I brushed over because there is a really really leap rabbit hole NLP ETC number one treat it like a business ranked number two is master your own psychology strengths and weaknesses. Dole impact. Maybe a little bit more so you can kind of get an idea for it. We have blind spots the biggest biggest thing that freaks me out. I should have video about this. He said the title is I'm scared in scaring off caps because I am I'm I'm freaked out and here's here's what freaks me out. Okay a billing a great product doesn't freak me out creating great content. nope potentially getting rejected note potentially winning and not knowing how to deal with it nope having too many people on my team and not knowing how to sustain that cash flow note. Here's one thing that now is the blind spots in my own psychology not that I'm not aware of and not getting the immediate feedback that I need from my network on new to fix those things. That's the number. One thing that freaks me out is that there's probably is something that I'm making this a mistake that I don't know this mistake and not even a conscious enough of that particular thing because I don't know that the is right. It's like a good analogy is when you get on an airplane replant when you're in your home. You're like everything's in your holiday. In the you go to the airport you get on an airplane and then you take off ever had that where you take off you look down on all the houses and you oh my house is just one of those houses whoa that weird yeah yeah yeah totally right so it's the same thing thing with with the human psychology element like how many things are you not seeing that are actually affecting everything across the board and are aren't aware of south is that and then also make sure Korea planet to other people as well because different people react to different things right. We're talking you know. Primary reputational systems were talking different. Histories were talking different incentives. Different drivers different fears that everybody has an if you want your business to work number one number two understanding because businesses are people. You're you're delivering value to real humans if you WANNA actually do you actually really want to do especially if you're a coach again speaker writer. It's somebody's gotta read your somebody's. He's GonNa listen to your contact. Somebody's got to get tapped into it has to make an impact enough for them to be moved enough to actually take a certain action with data and then obviously the third thing is don't worry about getting imperfect because I did this man. I spent almost half a million dollars on tech platform suspended. Take my own money and that was while I was working at other gigs to support that bill that out and it's awesome and I was like Oh. It's going to be the greatest thing ever and then you know what happened. Russell came out with click funnels and he completely obliterated me and it was the same offering and I just couldn't compete right so it being total cost and we're totally redoing it but it's a great lesson that I've had to learn on people do this over and over and over again whether it's my staff were working the Eric. Hey I'm ready launch. What if it's not perfect what if what if people don't like it and Markham nation is a lot better to get it out there and get the feedback and I have some monster mental models that give as well for how to think about putting this stuff out getting feedback iterating brewing it agile development if you were to take that agile development concept applied to your content apply to your mission statement. There'll be a fourth one. I'll give it as a bonus yet really clear on your mission and by mission I I mean what is it bigger than you. What is is bigger than you. If you really want to do this if you want to quote get building online business being influenced her to get a sense of a sense of the scale here all three of those companies the mention our million dollars per month okay so that's a million dollars per month in run rate that we did the marketing on when it comes to Obama's and we also did the back end financial allocation on that so we're dealing with the front end bring that in and the back pedal allocate that between staff between expenses etc so when you're dealing at that level their mission has to be greater than just you. It has to be because it's not about you anymore. You start with it being being about you. You start with it being about the lifestyle you start with it being about the freedom but there's a point where it transitions and it's when you get that kid that's really bought in on staff and he's like. I get it he he lives in Argentina. He's nineteen man he he he he looks up to me right. He's he's like dude. We're GONNA do this. We're GONNA do this. We're GONNA do is on my like. I think he believes on this thing more than I I do. This is crazy because our mission statement is is gotten so dialed. 'em There's quote. It's like it's a lot easier to do something big than it. This view something small so if you say WanNa be coach ask yourself. What is the big mission statement that you stand for. What is the beacon that you are like like. If if your mission is the era you're just the tip of it. You're not the entire area just the tip of the Arrow for us. It's helping entrepreneurs in global space to be better entrepreneurs because I believe that the innovations was gonna comment. It's GonNa. It's GonNa save this planet. I truly believe that the only way to save this thing that you know with the plastic crazy stuff is to get entrepreneurs in a really really good place to innovate right kind of what we saw with Alana's like support for Elon Musk has the way I gotta think about it right so those those would be my tips. It's like if you want to build old a business online. As a word business treated like a business master your analogy master other people's psychology learn how to communicate your value offerings rings and don't be scared to launch soon and then last but not least obviously make sure that you die on that mission statement so that when people come up to you and they ask you hey hey what do you do. There's a really big difference between saying hey. I you know I'm a coach versus. Hey we do this together. It's a we statement is something that they can feel like. They're a part of they can attach to and they can make up part of their identity as well. Why love your stuff as well. You've you've really doubted that. Thank you brother Yeah. I'm so big on the ten year division game plan all of my students everyone that comes to my events they learn how to map that ten year vision and it's such a great starting point. It happened with me. I was in the room with Jordan Belfort. The Wolf Wall Street almost ten years nine and a half years ago cost to my vision for addicted to success and all the other things that I was creating the when you have a vision that is big and powerful powerful. It's shadows your fears and you can clearly articulated to the world so that people the right people start showing up and then the people that aren't meant to being division will clearly clearly understand that way. This guy is going this direction and he's going this Pavley. I'M GONNA move out the way it it just clean cuts to everything and keeps you disciplines to to stay on path with your mission so I love that you include that in there along with all the other great points full points that we shed thanks very much man. I do remember Owen Cook from Sharing is probably about a year or so back he's talking about marketing and what they've done with our state and he said that they put up this page and they had a video on their cells video and doing the primary for like maybe the first second ron and they had only made maybe thirty thousand forty forty thousand dollars and they'll kinda will scratch hit like what's going on then went and shot another video and would that video they ended up relaunching the the same program but made a million million of it and he said that was when he realized how important it is to test an experiment and to like keep creating content and putting it out there and now they have a commitment. I don't know if they still do but I remember saying to have a commitment where they get together as a group and brainstorm ideas on on shooting more cells videos and facebook videos the things like that to really start building more intesting experimenting sustaining that are so with Tyler Perez when hung out with him six years back the first thing off me he's like what are you testing right now and I'm like Oh. I've got a pop up on my website and captured emails and he's like what else do you test it like. He was really going in on me on the testing experimenting and are now nor you know six years down the line on now know why it's so important because it could be the difference between making you know two thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars wherever it may be totally totally It starts with your personal life. It's it's so funny. How when you build a brand or organization you. It's it's. I can't think kids. It's kind of weird. It's like whatever energy you are. The you'll have they say like money makes you more of who you are like at amplifies think yeah. It's not gonNA. Change you as if you're a good person. You're going to be like a better person than if you're a terrible person. You're GONNA do great crazy stuff. I think this experimentation and testing really Lisa starts at the personal level and that's also a recommendation out start with. Is something not working in your life. If say you're stuck in a nine to five. I know a lot of people they're stuck in. What if I if they WANNA break out and they just quote don't know what to do right. They don't know that I take I think that one of the most important for steps to admit that is not working like admit admit that whatever you've done up until this point is not working number to admit you're GONNA have to go into the unknown okay. Let's let that freaks out more than pretty much. Anything for humans going into the unknown is the scariest thing and the third thing is go into it with like a game and that's where the testing comes in treat it like a fun little game where I mean if you're if you're back when we were kids like you try stuff right. You're like oh well okay. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa try this thing and you try to say and then sometimes you totally get hurt as a result and your parents don't stop doing that and you're like okay yeah. That's not a good idea right but then somewhere somewhere along the line like we become adults and we have this perception that as an adult you have to have a figure it out right and I think that's I think that's so false. I mean like if a heart surgeon came up to me like hey do heart surgery. I would be able to tell him. I don't know how to do heart surgery. So why is it that we're so a not confident in being able to say hey I don't. I know how to do this and that's okay. That's okay. I'M GONNA figure it out like a like. I'm learning about making out about invading. I'm trying to figure this out. It's so cool. It's like a kid in the playground and a when you start to doubt on that then you start to realize okay this is fun fun puzzle for yourself and you know when it comes to like most Iberian I mean we we lost everything we test against ad copy tests of video sales letter copy which has the hug. We just two colors. We does There's a long laundry list can break down but it brings it starts with a Psychology College of making it fun for yourself to do the testing because if it's if it's tedious if it's heavy that means there's something missing in your own psychology and usually usually it's this idea that you are so attached to the judgment like. I have this still in a fight with it where I'm a crack marketer. I'm top whatever number one percent marketer which means okay we'll when a client comes to me and I'd start with a new client. I tell them like the first thing I tell them is. We're GONNA make a bunch of mistakes really best and that's that's how I pitch at the House plans and I go I go to them. I say look everybody else is GonNa. Piss you a certain model in a certain thing. Here's what we're GONNA do. Here's here's the list of the things we do and we are going to who fail a whole bunch really really quickly. Okay if you're okay with that. Let's move forward if you're not okay with. That probably not a good fit. I and I think it's kind of what you're getting at. Is improve it. It rate doubt in but don't just think of it as just a sales page or just also start to do that in your life. It's like if waking up every morning driving to a job. Jabu hate to have a boss yell at you and then coming home isn't working test. Something like it's okay to test something different. The fear setting is your life's not collapse and even if even certain aspects or less advantageous such as financially you're not as in as good of a position can understand that that's not the same as your life collapsing. There are two very very different things we have this disconnect in our own psychology with the fear that like Oh if we lose our job it's over right. If we lose our job it's over and over and over again. It's simply not true we are. You're very very resourceful. As human beings we have actually all the research if you are a blessed enough to be able to listen to this podcast right now you have all the resources that you need in your life to be able to create an amazing life and and and I really genuinely mean that as informed understand your any successful. I'm talking like Uber Successful Entrepreneur that I've interviewed or met in person or Bergen events with that hasn't foued multiple times at something like they've had big the sidewinder like lessons that had him you know without even knowing it was coming in and they've had to really get resourceful in. That's the key is like practicing that result sooners I am. I mean you mind if I share kind of abominable story for her. Go ahead man. Yes so you know it's it's good to say like hey run rate ran marketing for our company doing a million right and then ran the back and finance on that that to most people is so far outside of the benchmark and it sounds really cool like like it's cool to say but it there's this moment I had. We're doing these these product launches in I was I was in my shower in the fetal commission laying down with a with a hot water coming down and there was about eighty or ninety more things I needed to do that day and it was three fifteen in the morning guys. I should have done on those things already and I was like I don't know I don't know how to deal. I don't have an out. There is no object button for this like. How do I make there's stop. How do I make the Stop in all I wanted to do was to make Assad was so painful and it was so stressful in there. There was so much horizontal coursing through my body that my body was just completely shutting down. I couldn't prioritize task. I could imagine my team. I couldn't lead full shutdown anyone who's ever been through a tough break up. It's a similar emotional state where you just you just WanNa Krona Ball. You WanNa cry you want it to end and there was something that happened like I turned shower off. I got out in this kind of kind of a very personal story about share it because I think it's important understand level. Success doesn't matter where human so I have a sixty two six millimeter that I keep on my bed said it's a it's a handgun and I remember going out and taking the gun out taking the bullets out and just just putting talk temple and I said like either you choose either you ended or you keep going either you ended or keep talking and I laid there for until the sun on came up staring at myself in the mirror with his gun in my time and there was something very very weird that happened in my psychology where I let go up to such a high level that it rewired any new challenge into instant dove or something that happened in my body that said Dude. This is way too crazy. If you keep doing this you're physically going to die. We're not going to be here anymore. which which your primal mingling part of your brain says okay for going to be here anymore? This is bad. I need to fix something so it rewired my brain to trigger dopamine off of those stress triggers now so now for example when a client is unhappy or something collapses totally in the company. I get excited. I get this accelerated rush because in that moment I made the choice and so it's it's like I can't go. I can't go back like I don't get the choice to go back. That's it. It's like it's like you. Jumped jumped off the cliff. You're you can't get back up there. That's all there is to it and say that story is a tough one for me to say because like I've said it a couple of times and even to admit that you that I was there like that's that's the hard part and I think for those of you that are listening that you have to you have to be able to steer yourself with the mayor with stuff and much less imagine staring yourself with Marissa and then sharing it with with the entire world saying judge me judge away. No sweat no big deal. I'm Dan good at what I do but you know what I'm human. I'm human at the end of the day and I don't consider it a mistake. I consider it a huge blessing a huge amazing blessing and creates this unique dynamic dynamic inside of your own mind where you start to think okay wait a minute. There's a whole nother level here like we were talking about a money mindset. Mike being able to shift into a new bracket while it applies with money and it also performance because like moment is you can't perform when you're in stress and so if you're listening and you have this dream in you feel stock understand you have to experiment with with the things that you're doing trigger new things in your life. That was my version of experiments kind of an intense one right. It wasn't bolander didn't sign up you know I didn't go like hey let me do this today. It was just doing a million. A month like the run rate was crazy. I was doing my best. It was just too much to handle. I overextended right and that's what happened and I think it's okay to like acknowledge. I didn't say like Whoa that's pretty. That's pretty nuts man. That's a pretty crazy thing to go through. It's not an easy thing to share. It's not an easy and go through but hopefully there is somebody who is there. There's like wow you know. What maybe it's not that bad. If I go and and I write that book or go on stage or I take on those coaching fines. That's not that bad comparatively. Maybe I should just go for it and see what happens. Maybe whoa wait. WHOA I went for it and it worked of of now have to go forward again right and that that I think is harder. Fear is that now you have to commit like wiest humans or so non-committal where like I want to be able to do whatever and as soon as you commit your that's it. You're the weird entrepreneur guy that's it. You know like look people are yeah that people will judge you. It's okay so so commit to that so what I'm getting out there. Is it a rate with your yourself interet with the things that are like that. You're doing with your actual day because when you start to change the guy who says you can't you can't think yourself in action but you can act yourself into emotion. I think that's really really papa. You can't think yourself into action but you can act yourself in emotion. If you ever have a bad day or a tough day take the actions. I just just focus on getting that action out there right. Maybe you don't feel great in your body. Just go to the gym. Just go for a walk. Just get the sunlight and then the emotions will come because our biological systems terms are so hardwired with our brain that we forget sometimes we we assume that our brain is more powerful than our body but it actually is very synergistic so I know there's there's a lot thereby hopefully so I went totally off topic. I like this is so good man because I feel like this is like this is the area that little entrepreneurs Bernez a very unaware of because they are sucked into the allure of like the glory of being you know business owner and getting significance and making the money and I can say you know hand on Hotman. I've had multiple experiences of feeling like that like I probably get it. Maybe once every few months to get that feeling of like I just WanNa like little and it's like what if not like in the sense that I put like a gun to my head like you did it. That's that was a really interesting. Experience showed without some appreciate vulnerable on it. I think for me is more like just wanting to run away from it. All like what would it be like. If I just like didn't do this anymore and this is many like who's very committed somewhere somewhere somebody at work and and so many other connect with we have these conversations and they say like yeah. Sometimes I feel like I just wanted to check out and just off the grid and the other day man. I'm like sitting there going through social media analytic literally through my fine down on the bed like throw it away from me. I'm like I. I felt like icky feeling this just like like I was being ruled by. The robots like literally felt like I'm no longer playing to game. I WANNA play at the office. WHO's game you playing and we're going to be so careful half of that and it's like we get to choose where we live emotionally each day and so. You've gotTA have a game plan for that man. Everything's touching ching everything. Everything can be affected. It's like if you're going all in on your business to the point where your lacking connection family and friends you're gonNA feel it. If you only business to the point where you stress then going to be like we're talking about this before like making sure you're getting optimizing your body and having good sleep and knowing how much energy after that day like if you're neglecting acting that is going to be a point where you're not going to be making the money that you desire to make you haven't been looking after yourself from the back end. Now you have a ring on your finger and I noticed that I know what that ring is. Maybe let people that either like aren't able to see this video version of this but like listening to it. Mikio has this black ring and it's got this awesome technology in it. It's called the aura raining so show does man like why. Why do you wear the Orrin 'cause I keep hearing entrepreneurs and people that are striving for one or life say how amazing it is. I'm on even get one myself yet. Okay so the orange for those guys that are not familiar is this ring goes on your finger and it tracks your sleep. It's it's mended attracts other things but it's really to track your sleep and attracts all the same things that you know the sleep cycle app kind of tracks so a lot of people start there. That's where I started but it is so much more accurate and so much more definitive data than against is one of the few gadget guy those guys they can't see. I've got like all the gadgets it's and this is one of the really transformed my life really come when he says he's got all the gadgets he literally has like thirty one or two screens. It looks like it looks like the mother ship. He's about to take off and take on another planet. I'm a big ironman Fan so I love this idea of being in that space so yeah I bless you. GotTa test. It's fine. It's like a kid with toys right. We're these crazy entrepreneurs. I don't know how they give us money to its. We're totally totally not qualified to have all these but but anyway this thing it's attracts your sleep attracts deep ram which love it also tracks. HR V. which Hariri ability which is very very important to gauge age how healthy your heart is as one of the best kind of metrics for heart health because I think often we over extended over caffeinate and I do notice you know a bit of a drop in my performance my age. RV Dips a little bit actually goes along with your high so it's changed my life and the way that it has it is it gives you the score so gives you a sleep score and they'd gives you a readiness score and so when you wake up in the morning Bob Off sink it up and again. This isn't like my product. I'm I'm like no not affiliated bell but I'm totally going to make the most awesome pitch over please anyway. it gives you so the sleep score or is how well did you sleep and then. Iranian scores already are on the day and what I like about that is allows me. Mattress is my performance that day before even started so if I'm if I'm rocking if I'm like ninety to ninety five ninety seven. I know I can wake up. I can hit the gym hard. I will still be able to blaze through all the work. I needed blaze through. I better do that high. Impact work. I I take like whatever you know that that concept whatever that hard thing is that I need to tackle go for it and now you're sharp mode police through it. Go go go whereas if I wake up in my scores a little bit lower I go okay while Lemme pace my day out for let me go less hard. Maybe do a few less sets. Let let me let me pull that back. Let me go more consistent. Let me focus on getting a score up higher for the next day so I can do the really high end backward and I'm seeing it as a number just it's. It's something psychological where you know you don't have to get Soviet. Have that where you wake up and you feel Kinda tired some of those days I look at my score and I'm like no actually good way what's going on this year and then and then some days you wake up and you feel like you're a rockstar any checking. Your four is good and you're like okay. That's very interesting. So of our ability to self diagnose is not very good like as humans like we think we're good but we're really not that great at it and to be honest the more that the more that I tested my own psychology is hyper hyper hyper hyper flawed in my ability to diagnose my own capacity for output so that's why these devices are super awesome and then also the morning rituals really helped a ton after that weird thing created a morning ritual dance my life out and that's changed my life so earn get. It is highly recommended. Treatment saved my life. A super huge like completely transformed my performance. I'd Say I'm thirty two seventy percent or effective if not two to three times more effective. It's it's very hard a base that but one thing that I know is I know where I'm announced really powerful is. Is You know if you're a sixty out of one hundred million sixty eighty and you know you're not going to overcommit that day and that's allowing to recover and that if you know you're doing great you're going to have a certain sense of confidence and certainty with how you take those actions that day in how you have those conversations have meetings and in that intact points. GonNa feel that much more congruent because nothing really knock you off your game. It's like a party cut. You often traffic. You're like doesn't matter like there's no effect. There's no effect right and you're like Oh. I'm under ninety two. I feel good whatever nobody yet yes yes. Thanks for sharing sharing that it's it's interesting because I look like the most important commodity is not money because it comes and goes right and the most important commodity isn't time will it isn't if you poss- away and you no longer are here to a certain degree. The most important commodity while you're here is energy because because that's the fuel that's the source for you to be able to output during a day with the time that you have here and I love that you've got this way of measuring it more becoming more self aware and you probably if you took the ordering off you probably a more switched on and aware of yourself now just because he'd been wearing engaging it right right absolutely absolutely and as this ability to self regulate that this huge and as a certain awareness because sleep is sleep is something we cut into is as to cut into it all the time. Oh my gosh look back and I did not even really like to know you'll be more effective. If you go to bed early wake up early on my key. Whatever like you know I I gotta do the stuff like Leela right. You don't understand me. I gotTA keep a rebel and Uber Spirit route so it's like hot but now I see him. Get no questions about it way more factor up at five than I can do about it. It's field tested Proven can argue with it. You know you can't argue with metrics. Rate data doesn't like so I love it for that and then the morning ritual that I stack on top bliss. I'll just go through a very very quickly. This actually was the differentiator in me of being able to do a lot of the things I've been able to do over. The last like especially three to five Muir's is is adjusting some of these little things than this morning ritual. I developed about a year and a half ago where I finally got it like two words goods on just I wanna go throughout navy really really quickly. Stare yeah the the this is a very tune into wanting to understand more about the million dollar habits and rituals Fisher so this was this was huge again like everything. If you do it every day you will notice a massive difference within fifteen to thirty days. Might maybe even faster astor so what I do every morning. I've found these eight categories of life that really kind of everything kind of fits into right and that's what so what I do every morning is I is I go through where I'm out in every category and wanting to improve the way a wake-up and I do this every single day without fail. I will not leave my bed or check instagram or my phone on at all until I do so I would go. How do I feel physically right because the physical bodies this machine and I kind of do this thing like I kind of caught my hands and I go Kay. Does anything hurt. It's anything off because sometimes will work much like we'll get carpal tunnel writes. Sometimes your neck hurts. Somebody who are backwards totally not even aware of it. You just ignore it you stuff it and then it affects their performance formats because our new neurology so linked already so I don't feel physically than second one is I put my hand over my heart and go feel emotionally and is there something I'm stuffing or something nothing. I'm going through the process. I've had days where I sit there for three hours. You know go whoa Okay Award was that right and I know you're big on A. I've got really honest. Feedback work that you do with your audience so that was huge as I am. I WANNA feel anxious. Why do I feel anxious. Okay we too many staff to quickly. We need clients that okay okay. Wait a minute all right on. I was processed this because I can't go through my day with that expect to perform so had I feel emotionally. The third one is my husband temples. I go ahead. I feel mentally and they're as Mike cleaned my clear. My focus am I having thoughts or is my attention like you mentioned going to the robots. Right is my attention on would messages. I got a wedding bells any any jack or am I having my own thoughts and is really fascinating. This one is like am I having my own. Thoughts sounds so simple but it's actually very profound because asking what what thoughts are you having that are actually yours in which are implanted by all these things society tells. US DEBATE huge put my hands this guy to go spiritually. He'll files data today how to feel about it. I wouldn't feel good about it was one thing I can do so where tomorrow I feel better about it now. At the point where any moment I could get I call John Bird theory. I get hit by John Bird and that was it you know I think it's pretty cool to to not have that fear death because that affects a lot of things that my hands dropping energetically Howard kilmer free flowing blocking so my connected to the things around me to the people around me to the energy rounding to the planet to the to the trees to to the experience or am I resisting the experience in creating friction for myself to move forward then I give them a big hug and I go relationships How do I feel with my relationships with myself in with others so myself on my confident. Do I stand for something. Mike Congruent am I honest in my somebody that I would want to be like like that is kind of a funny question but I think we forget about ourselves sometimes and then relationship right what about my family would have our friends what about other people and I got to rate myself at a one to ten on all all these and then if there's something missing. What can I do today. I I have this little would like customer adults to send me reminders for people so that I that I feel better number. Forget someone's birthday so now like a link like what can I do today like improve that by plus on right regime that I take my hands out and I do like the money like resources says number seven is resources. How do I feel with resources resources pure to have everything I need in my life and I'm getting you at that point where it's like. I have genuinely everything I need. I don't need any more stuff so I feel really good now. Talk about the the the team thing in giving back and all schools up and then I send my hands August and I imagine a tree growing out of him and that's eight one is contribution out I feel about contribution and scale one attend have given something without asking for anything in return recently am I contributing as much as I can with the power that half so once I started doing that and I go through it very methodically very slowly then when I get when I get out of bed. There's nothing that can happen in my day that will knock me off my game and I was with my friend Rachel and Henry recently you might know them but the the we're we're having a discussion and a friend of mine kind of getting pushback. What do you mean like. Everything's great like what if I what if I told you right now that God forbid like your mother passed away right. How would you deal with that. I go I'd say that's that's the greatest thing I've ever heard because that's the only you have to get too. That's the point you have to get to. It's part of the experience is apart because to to not have that you're resisting assisting life. You're is acceptance absolutely and it has to be instant in has to be flowing and guess there'd be other much as the process of course of of course right but it has to be wowed again It's amazing. I get to experience this. I think we forget we get to do this. If you WanNa make an impact you get to get to and that's a very powerful thing understand is it's. It's something you'd get to do. It's not something you have to do is not as big wait no. It's it's it's amazing thing. You get got to do with your life. It's total privilege and it should be done with gratitude so yeah. That totally changed the way that I approach. Thanks now because it covers all bases. I have yet to find a thing that doesn't cover spirituality covers like everything's kinda covered in that what it's I'm a big systems guy like my parents are physicists of they're. They're both issues. I'm very like systematic so I like okay. Like what can we do to create a system in. Thank you for your business right near you. Take care of your clients. Don't you take care of yourself that we do that so much right like the best supporting but then where's where's our support team for for ourselves right so hopefully that helps somebody again. Just try it and see how you feel at the end of it and it might take you an hour hour and a half in the morning the first time I did. It took me about an hour and a half to get through that 'cause I went. Oh Okay my lower back's messed up okay light on a note change deadlocked form right next you know and you go through all these things and then I would go through it again and I go in and go through it again and go through it again but it gives you the grade audit where you can look at it and then something happens during the okay. You're kind of non reactive to it because like okay like Armageddon. It'd be like comic coming for the Earth and you're like well if I died today. I feel good about it so anyway anybody. WanNa go get a green smoothie or something like what's wrong. What's wrong with you. We're audited too high and I'm like yeah but like Green. smoothie sounds really good right. It's like yeah but it makes it easy. It's crazy Russian but it makes it easier to run your business right because when when they're total meltdown then you're able to kind of do the rock both in your own life or whether that's your business or in your family life your personal life a things happen right so it's like. How much time do we spend being reactive to these things that then affects Xsara Billy to live that best version of ourselves competes hopefully after useful for I feel that on every level man for sure it's so important you should shoot a video and put that up on Youtube Channel so we can see the eight parts to the ritual either. I think that's amazing. Thank you for sharing that now. Loco you also known as a really powerful copywriter to and listening to copywriting is typing up an email email saying it out to subscribers right. This is this ought of like riding. A powerful email brings people into whatever it is. You're offering an in creating engaging agent around. This is the copywriting now. We also do this nowadays on social media. I saw you write a great caption. That's captivating. It's engaging it increases. This is your region. The Algorithms and also people are going to be a bit more trusted if they feel like you're being vulnerable enough and they also know that is like patent in the way you've written it where it pulls him in and it makes makes them want to stay on and read the whole thing so could you just share with us. Just in a nutshell. Maybe like three or four point zero five points of what what we should keep in mind when we're writing captions providing providing emails were writing status though writing copyright on a sales page selling our associates sure absolutely okay so the caveat. Please stop me when I go too long on this. This is like my jam right here so you'd have to be like no no more otherwise. I'll just give you sell the first thing is understanding this emotion versus logic phenomenon that we have very. I think a copy as the pendulum between emotion and logic. That's the most simple one I'm adding a third one called flavor but we're going to not unpack that one because maybe a little bit over adds adds up whenever you're saying this is kind of like people by Basil feelings faxes at essentially what you mean but absolutely absolutely and whenever you engage with anything a we we have this pendulum swings back between logic emotion and logic and emotion right take for example. A starbucks coffee gives a perfect example sample like you drive has a starbucks starbucks and what happened in your brain right you you drive past it and you go. It's a five dollar coffee that stupid. Why would I do that and then the emotion kicks in yeah because I really want it but I really wanted and then the logic totally gets shut down and then you're you're. You're drinking next thing. You know you're just drinking coffee like like that's usually how it works so when when you're writing great copy let's say you're working on a post on instagram or an email or video sales letter or understand that a the state that somebody is in when they hit that page is going to be different for everyone only hit that post is going to be different so one of the first things that. I almost always do you is. I decided which point of that pendulum I want to swing them to. I and I almost always bring them into emotion. I because somebody might land on that post and they might be already in super emotional state that might be super pumped up and that's going to work well but it also might be at work they might be in a super logical head space and that that emotional post might not hit them so I would recommend ask yourself. What is the first point of impact that you're making with. Somebody who's seeing Read it and read it out. Loud okay biggest recommendation read it. Read it out loud in what happens to your psychology. What is the effect of your psychology when you read it out loud. Do you smile. Do you is it. The neutral setting is it is kind of hard to get through is it easy to get is a free flowing. Is it creating some sort of visual in your mind that that has some sort of impact so are the again the first thing understand logic versus the motion logic versus emotion when I do a long sales pager when I do have ESL and lead with emotion emotions so that the most common formula for this hook with emotion handle objections with logic close with emotion so emotion logic motion emotion logic emotion. You can take that pattern those either just starting out you can take out and you can run that over and over and over again right take an instagram post. You'll see all the time where it's like. Here's a really cool paragraph about some stuff in a bullet and then a bullet in this game I think right over and over again how many of those into elegant totally right Volkert again we can always more but as you get them excited. You're like oh well. I'm excited pattern her up and then and then the it's always like okay well. We go too far into emotion. The problem is that people don't have enough concrete messaging to actually justify their own action taking right like in order to take action. We have to be able to justify taking action. The coffee will help me make back the five dollars. That's not usual justifications like I'll be so caffeinated. I will totally make five hundred dollars off at five dollars. Investment totally delusional probably obviously but that's the way out to justify right makes sense excellent so that's the first thing is understand that swing and you can try hi this with people recommendation sales. If you want to get good at sales copy do with in person this transform. This took my copy through. I mean the Dan Kennedy John Carlton Gary Benson Emmy. You name an Gee I've gone through all their stuff swiped it like the works right like tons of Esl tons of I mean. Can you name it. We've we've done it. All like seventy. Seven letters like the list goes and the big shift was when I started doing it in person so what I would do is I'd that'd be playing around with something and I'm writing out and right right right and sometimes dictate so somebody dictated by phone and then transcribe and then send it in than edited up and it was hitting hitting doing good but we're really shifts like I'm GonNa try this person and I literally. I remember driving down the hill. I was ties at drove down the hill and I was this is like the store that was there and I'm like okay like I'm going to just talk this person about the random mistake that I can pick an end user shirt like I'm going to buy like a twenty dollar shirt for whatever reason McCain I tell me about the shirt and they're like well like what color is there is right and it doesn't look right it looks Maroon like was the difference between Maroon Red and I'm trying to figure out like this I in psychology and it becomes almost like Jujitsu kind of a pacing where you're starting to see this person trying to interpret the world and then what you realize that every single angle person that sees every piece of content that you put out has that same process where they go in they see it and they go this is hard hitting or it's not right up. The worst thing you can with coffee is called debt by faint praise where it's okay that you like if it can be awesome. It can't be great like we were just talking about making sure if it's not great great make shorter if it's not great make shorter if it's not great make it shorter think like an editor so again one emotion logic motion logic every single apiece you right on that caption or on email. You should be able to act you should be able to answer if I asked you this sentence. Where are you taking you should be taking them either towards a logical justification or unemotional point so like that story that I told you earlier. That's the that's a heavy emotional story right takes you all the way into motion. You're almost most no logic in your brain when you're listening to it whereas if I was to break down a certain benefit stack or feature stack of a particular offering we have almost entirely logical and that that's not gonNA listen action so emotion logic emotion right emotion logic emotion for for sure things were the ball emails works really about for sales pages takes a bit longer to break that down and they're gonNA have to start thinking beyond that okay so so for short form. Okay okay so this is this is this is where you want to interject. This is great. I love this is such a good. I'm thinking about the way that I write my emails and definitely there are some times where you know Britain are probably sure taking a break like stepped away from an comeback of one seating writing it out putting it out 'cause for the sake of like Oh. I've gotta get it out rather than going wait. A minute is hard hitting and I do know the times have really got meticulous about it but also like really going like am. I putting myself the Rita's shoes. This is when I get better results to get better. Click through rates in Even the subject title gets more opens because I really thought about it from their perspective acted rather than just writing. What do I train. What am I trying to share with them rather than like while it's important to us and you know people's time is valuable able to respect that so then when you do send it's going to be hard hitting for them to feel like okay. This person respects my time and they've got some of totally at the three types of you to do like the quick and dirty tips number. One is that pendulum motion logic emotion. The second would be dictated. Don't write it get addicted up and say I think a lot. The people get stuck here. copies of those things like it's intimidating until you realize that it's super easy to do really difficult to master. It's like one of those things you know. It's like it's easy to break you break through that beginning part like you feel like you've got it and then you realize it's terrible cell addicted. I think a lot of people like Oh. When do I right now. It's like okay well. If you can't write it like voice memo like even if you don't dictate voice memo listen back to it and then right mode or even better just dictate it. Senate yourself self cleaning up Polish it up pop it out and in the third day of dip immediately read it out loud and of these are like super someone we can go further into like copy psychology aw for me. It was very intimidating to start on copy and I know a lot of people like I'm not a copywriter. I'm not I hear this all the time but I'm not a copyright. I'm like really. Have you ever talk to a human. Have you ever convinced your kids to do something like if you convince your if you have kids and convince them to do anything you're probably better copyrighted than. I am at this point 'cause. I can't convince kids to do anything. Doc Gates truth is already so that pendulum boom dictated and then also say it out loud. Sometimes I'll all right something on like all this. This is awesome. I'll say it out. It sounds less awesome. Just put it that way. It sounds not as awesome as I thought yeah yeah and so if you if you want to go more advanced on the psychology I just I just I don't want it to be over too. Many I think I think for the sake of like the value that we already have and those things really key. I know we could get super technical. I think that there's a Lo- hit unpacked unpack already whether the dual pod to they always out of it man love it awesome hsieh's brother. I'm really proud of you and everything you've achieved and just how generous you are in the process of just getting this out there in sharing it. I do know that you've built a community. You have your program so if you check that with us before we wrap up that would be awesome yet totally so quick quick little mission statement on this is from last decade of working with Thai jump. Gut Our as the this Internet marketing thing. There's so many skills. You have to learn earn. It's very hard to find one place to figure out what you're even supposed to learn so what I started to as I created a mentoring program. It's twelve weeks. It's awesome where unpack pack everything I mean we start with market niche how to take that pain point how to create a product around it at a packers value had been the product until you had right at filming the words how to build out lead magnet trip wires funnels headed create engaging compelling content on how to do cold traffic ad sales team so this this is a twelve week fasttrack masterclass on everything you know about digital marketing is very very powerful include a link in the show notes if you don't let's see. 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Amanpour: Mikhail Kasyanov, Nina Jankowicz, Jonathan Powell and Gulalai Ismail,
"Mm-hmm in Turkey to rein in urged want Syria offensive one clear winner out of this Kale's Russia we talked to the former Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov and welcome to on board here's what's coming up trump's top T. his meeting with president trump also pointed out to the president had concerns that the in an opportunity this is a mounting concern in the US military and among US allies Mikhail Kasyanov served as Russia's primary uh-huh Gula is mild talks to Michelle Martin about standing up against abuse and being forced into hiding elrod seem to lead to Putin the Russians have been trying to get a foothold in the Middle East for a very long time unsuccessfully and now the president has used yesterday in which he said don't be tough guy don't be a fool and back in Washington House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed more details about this contention to comment on what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that when it comes to president trump in various issues all roads seem to lead to Putin and that this is exactly the UN to somehow stop this it has transpired that after the backlash against his move president trump tried appealing to earn one himself through a letter that Sir the reason why has president might such a decision just to the most important the most the say the best allies Russia Putin has wanted for a long long time and after a long absence trump has given them an entree back into the Middle East do you do you agree with that formulation fighting Syrian Kurds and now holding mass funerals for their dead as they accuse the United States of abandoning them a humanitarian disaster is underway amid calls for the spread attempt to get president urged one to stop his bloody offensive in Syria after President Trump essentially gave it the green light American allies the isis welcome to the program everyone I'm Christiane Amanpour in London top. US officials secretary of state my Pale and vice president Mike Pence have made legally support military support are there and despite the fact that there is an agreement between Iran Turkey and poaching just we see coats left on the field front of Turkish thanks I don't understand I can't down this during Vladimir Putin's first term but now he's a vocal opponent of the Russian leader new joining me now from London welcome back to our program thank you very much so can I just ask you right now we see the sedation develops in a different way and the gun heading Justin to sit in territory creating a buffer zone and in the fighting isis now left alone without any support and protection what do you think President Putin thinks about that because obviously he also was part off I mean he said it from the a great extent yes put in just the main beneficiary of what's going on there a he for many years said just thought is legitimate president and the nation's that's his that's his sort of public stance anyway that he is in the fight against Isis do you think he has any sympathy for the Syrian Kurds or is he how people got inciting violence against me people would give me detrick someone give me babe stretch human rights activists since she was sixteen Pakistan and to dismiss to buy I would say brought to differentiate dictators like we had in just in the kind of okay with this development because now Russian forces of rushed up their municipal John is okay only with one issue how to keep personal power it's a dictator could be dismissed by People's movement with the support of different other other allies because he doesn't want that to happen and the before now including for them it's unacceptable at all that's why he's fighting for his own future not to have another example then long ago he's here there and everywhere very close ties with Prime Minister of Israel despite your differences and your political difference progressively on a now at its apogee with this with this issue I mean you have Putin obviously making hay out of was going on in Syria Putin was in Saudi Arabia not his with Putin himself as a Russian do you think is good for Russia to have to be able to fill this vacuum in the Middle East Jews Russians need that leadership that their country is playing a major role and actually I don't know whether you agree but sort of filling a vacuum that seems to have been left by the United States with the same integration same and other countries I let me just ask you again though because Russians Russians seemed to be you've patients and just this pasta empire Soviet Empire Syndrome walks well but other fifty percents AGIUS split approximately fifty fifty percent who in reality to support young they are ready to be improved position and road victories quick bitterest to raise personal legitimacy outside Russia because inside Russia he doesn't have enough legitimacy that's pressing that's why that's why show victorious war in Cedar that is source of propaganda and now these fifty percent applauding Mr Putin that finally within Syria was stabilized there was there was peace up there and the Kurds were fighting Isis and and all of that and this is all gone up in smoke now and Assad will as you say regain the majority of his territory will start punishing those kids who was just playing games with Americans President Putin has either summoned or agreed to have a meeting with President Odilon in Sochi next week the the presidential spokesman is saying just everything coming back unfortunately there's disaster so what do you think than when you see this picture in your mind I mean you've talked now just about mostly middle class living in the big cities of course they contrary absolutely against the things they would like to be a normal European state so that human rights are protected and he got what he wanted he bringing back together with with a gun and Iranian Azeri bringing back almost the whole territory those three and a half million of refugees ceding continue talking and just a proactive with bro and became a vocal opponent and you've tried to to run against him we've seen unprecedented protests this summer in Russia how do you analyze them. They thought that is untouchable is to be doesn't exist but what do you think the unprecedented turn out of these young people is saying or being with food and the medicine given on the money of European Union but he pushed them under territory of Syria is at the live there l. let's and they're very upset at what the Russians are saying they're upset or word Turkey is doing in northern Syria what do you think is going to happen and we know Mike are they what we see in the outside they unprecedented are they meaningful do they have any hope of breaking through there's a new wave as new developed they wanted to participate on original actions to Moscow Moscow Duma Moscow parliament of Moscow most go ten percent of population the rights to ward at two bill that elect will be implemented on the practice but this that's why he needs roll it is it is actually remarkable let me just move to domestic Russian politics and protest you as prime minister on the treadmill Putin in Russia and I am very happy that it's happening new generation for the first time I've Pete on the streets because of simply probably another bloodbath I the Turkish Bubba then the Assad although the Syrian Kurds of made a deal with aside for the moment do you see isis rising again many later on the control which some people that are just heartbroken by because for the last many years perhaps five to seven years in fact that band up there in it said that you know sure they can put me into jail but every time they do another big protests happens and this is just like a self like a constant vicious circle fouled in the Kremlin the incriminate people are shocked amount that they will not prepared for that and that's why they decided to suppress but these people are beaten by police and the haven and just some of them in jail and now against fifteen fourteen fifteen people uh realize that relaxation should start it otherwise revolution would be inevitable gosh that's pretty dramatic people not so into just going to say as soon as you unites it we will support your wide Novon is one of the leaders but he's the let me now get back to Putin in the United States just last week over the weekend he made this comment about again he talked about trying to make better relations with the at this important part poultry Jim not just the region over Russia and these you'll guys wanted to nominate they can do this us but always says events intervene she's got good international community would provide appropriate support not arrogant but international community and the whole country back on the ourselves does Nevada have any hope of challenging Putin anytime soon I mean is any opposition going to be able to the next elections in twenty twenty one the just not bright Sewri but I'll tell you that we for many years can be united democratic opposition there's major reason why Peyot and Vice President Mike Pence trying to get owed want to stop or slow down I mean from what you know about the region can they have an effect on one computer right those leader on the street but he's not a leader of opposition this should become a nation of all political groups infect her four independent political groups if we tonight those cells and start preparing now than September twenty twenty one could be a turning point because it's constitutional event elections I anti Putin demonstration started into southbound six Phil now there was no broken window no broken car in the streets of Moscow supposed quid pro quo and the holding up of aid and all the rest of it is a gift to Mr Putin is a winner out of all of this for me it's a main concern is ah very worried about isis rising because of all of this could be because just those codes fighters they will not undertake any efforts on the and they already mentioned some ways the human rights convention European Conventional Human Rights Mr Putin well human rights every day he wants a special bemused special ticket from Mr Trump and European all the demonstrations and the awful teaches how people were beaten without any reasoning without it's peaceful demonstration I will say since when and final question do you think as many people have said that this whole situation with president trump on the conversation with presidents Alinsky and the the Union to just to behave and to interpret international in the way Mr Putin wants to one hundred example Ukraine another about Ukraine they asking the United States for military support United States is responsible to provide support for Ukraine and Federal Duma and this case eve reunited and the streets we'll be hundred thousand people five thousand people miss the just like in the Soviet Union or like China now maybe it's just not example we respect from China but something is different support territorial integrity and severe any Tovia crane as that protocol of nine thousand nine hundred four and that is a legitimate under criminal investigation some of them already committed no radio Reagan jail I like say Nevada is one of the biggest names of the protest leaders in Russia today and he Ukraine Bellini's support international support right this country just dissolved to be supported to build up a democratic state Y it's faced with such a problem well it is a huge problem and it seems to have backfired from his Lansky we'll see how it proceeds former Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov thank you and they now have problems not only Crimea annexed by Mr Putin but also in east part of Ukraine information subway I read and they said just in this case we will not continue the fight think means just reinvigoration of isis potentially possible means by saying just Mr Putin would like president trump to make a gift to Mr Putin the gift means to start treating Russia as a special case I'm from not you okay AH brought to president trump by president zillion ski help US help us to keep our severe energy and then return some kind of I would say and now the majority of Republicans in the House joined their democratic counterparts to condemn president trump's Syria moves last night and today trump ally the US front not like a part of international agreements like always see agrium when Mr Putin destroy the whole architecture of European security not like a not decision making process as usually United States just demonstrated we don't understand people in the grand don't understand what's going on acted him to work through Rudy Giuliani president's personal attorney rather than government channels here's part of his opening statement he says we will Sambas to the EU is testifying to the congressional impeachment inquiry about the president's moves in Ukraine political appointee Gordon Sandra and says that trump reign as president trump has been in the United States but he wants help he wants me to trade he's got the Russians are still fighting in eastern Ukraine still annexing Crimea to vote for them but on boss we've seen pictures of them does so I just depend on the streets just to protect constitutional rights their freedom welcome to the program Nina junkets thanks for having me Christiane can I just ask you perhaps to follow up a little from the former Prime Minister Kasyanov is just said that look can't get enough of the NBA sign up for NBA League pass to gain access to every game being played across the association every night with all new ways to watch through the NBA APP. Here you have a new Ukrainian president he desperately obviously he was you know probably as as a neophyte to politics in doc witness demon after you end up in Newark New Jersey Stores Impractical jokers join host humility so disappointed by the president's direction that we involve Mr Giuliani view was that the men and women of the State Department not the president's personal lawyer should take and having effect on the other one there will be some kind of agreement some kind of deal and that was gone wilt with established as a buffer zone and we'll push the NBA dot com or the NBA to get started today Tuesday on TBS prepare to be miserable mill on TBS since the highest dot com kindergarten is back to school get possessed by TV's funniest game show are we sure wasn't just career of the Ukrainian population that voted him into office as best he could with president trump in those phone calls he had an order to get that military aid and the other democratic joining us remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN meet our own domestic political gains. It's certainly not the role that the United States has played in the past and one I hope we don't play in the future well you know we we sort of introduced this did you think no I don't think it says Naievety at all I think presidents Alinsky had one choice you had to go and represent Ukraine and the seventy percent responsibility for all aspects of US foreign policy towards Ukraine now Nina junk obits is a Ukrainian expert at the Wilson Center and she's joining me from Washington well I don't think it was a perfect phone call for Ukraine and I certainly don't think it was a perfect phone call for the United States either we need to be supporting Ukraine watched a misery index a new game show premieres Tuesday at ten on tbs onto say We we all agreed that was the best way to go it wasn't until later that we thought perhaps there was an ulterior motive on Giuliani's pod look at his opening statement where he actually says that you know we thought it better to go through government channels but we were directed to go through Rudy Giuliani and rickie situation I was in Ukraine during the presidential election the Ukrainian presidential election this spring covering it and the all the smearing of Ambassador Ianovich started said sends him he said this was a perfect phone call on these issues that you're talking about with presidents Alinsky how would you interpret that what's your reaction to that to be undermining US foreign policy in Ukraine we need to be sending a signal of support not one of of confusion and this incongruence between official policy in its path toward democratic development in its anti-corruption work not weaponising that corruption that exist in Ukraine and creating disinformation around it in order his henchmen and his associates pod tell us what you how do you analyze what's going on with all these ambassadors just ten days before the Ukrainian presidential election the first round and I thought to myself this is a terrible time for people who are outside of US politics and makes this sort of somehow appeal to president trump has he just been I don't know has it his knife tear this trip to Mapo is something else going then trump appointees not to mention the fired or recalled official US ambassador to Ukraine well I think it's a very and what the White House and trump associates are saying and doing and from the very beginning it was clear that Mr Giuliani and other surrounding president trump were attempting to smear the ambassador charge that's the sort of message that the United States needed to be sending and now unfortunately as we know ambassador Yovany Mitch was recalled extensively because of the work that she did in Ukraine and the strong support that she had in terms of delivering that that US stance which we had taken for many many years so let me talk to you because it's all basically comes down associates of Mr Giuliani have been arrested and they are under investigation because of these allegations tell us what you know about the extent career ambassador who served under Republican and Democratic Administrations and is always pitch perfect in everything she says her support for Ukraine her support for democracy written Ed was I do not know Mr Giuliani's motives for attacking me but individuals who've been named in the press contacts of Mr Giuliani Mayweather into the anti corruption five that the United States is has taken as you say for many years to Ukraine and is trying to persuade Ukrainians they need to get believed their personal financial ambitions was stymied by our anti corruption policy in Ukraine and we know in since that several of these last five years than it has in the past thirty total but that being said there are still opportunities for individuals with alterior motive to exploit them of that kind of corruption in Ukraine and vulnerable in terms of corruption and how they're see the main tentacles of disinformation well see five trump and say help me end this war and dumbass which was the one of the main things that he was elected on so when you look at that transcript and the folklore new here what President Trump has option act activism center in Ukraine who has put her her personal safety on the line in order to encourage the Ukrainian government to prosecute these cases the system we saw this with Mr Manafort we see it with other individuals and political consultants who go not only to Ukraine but other countries in the in the post Soviet space I find it ironic that the folks who are seeking out these deals and of course Mr Giuliani himself is is one of the people who has who has done this sort of behavior you can look Jason Twenty Thirteen two thousand fourteen Ukraine has made a lot of efforts to to reform its do dishes system to reform its police system to stop bribe-taking it's made more progress than the in order to peddle these illicit deals and certainly that is something that the United States government has worked against and we have supported Ukraine in its anticorruption efforts areas on this it's part of her opening statement and ambassador vantage testified in defiance of the ban by the administration she went up to Capitol Hill and part of what she ars Shinko to protect his son of course this isn't true he asked for a former corrupt prosecutor to be fired in order to release a loan guarantee to protect his son firing that prosecutor actually made his son more vulnerable to to to prosecution we have this narrative that the DNC servers or Hillary Clinton's e Cook for some reporting by Casey Michelle that is excellent on this on this topic I find it ironic that he's attacking anti corruption activist like color nuke from the anti for democracy can be bought and that's exactly what Russia wants all of this murkiness just puts a big metal in in President Putin's lap and and under the type of people that the US government should be supporting not attacking you are an expert on disinformation when you look at this where do you today the UK and the EU announced to deal but does that mean that this long sorry saga is over far from it because it's still has to pass L. Servers are somehow located in Ukraine we have a narrative that the Ukrainian government colluded with the Democrats in order to throw the election for Hillary Clinton none of this is true Sir Knox is really at all New Zealand nor pretty movie price food except we will see coming to you that now the EU ambassador US ambassador. Gordon Sundlun is testifying and he's you know we've got a and all of this is being thrown into one disinformation narrative into in order to confuse voters and ultimately as you were saying to Prime Minister Kasyanov word that the United States gives to Ukraine over five hundred million dollars in two thousand seventeen and that was the one chance essentially to appeal to Mr the Jenkins thank you very much for joining me now. While president trump fights off impeachment his friend in Britain Prime Minister Boris Johnson is trying to bring on Brexit or four different conspiratorial narratives rolled into one here we have this disinformation about Vice President Biden and the supposed- ask he made of president the ones in three years what really matters are the people the people of Nelson Island today the chief negotiator said peace in Ireland is his priority let me say very frankly that for me viewed as a working on what the US effort is being to to try to stop that certainly well since the revolution of dignity or the the Euro my don revolution which took place earlier segment the winner here is Russia because it's undermining Ukraine's new democratic administration it's undermining support for democracy in Ukraine not only from the tried to make some sense of all of this so first and foremost do you think the Boris Johnson has pulled off what trees may couldn't what is and for the UK it's being long it's been painful it's being divisive and now is the moment for us as a country to come by creating a customs and Regulatory Order down the Irish Sea and no UK Prime Minister could ever agree to it minds are our support for democracy writ large around the world and that's what makes me most upset about what we've learned over the past couple of weeks these are indeed fragile and troubling times and Ireland what really matters he's piece the Good Friday Agreement of nineteen ninety eight so I wanted to play it because you refer to it but also who was there in the background is foreign secretary one Boris Johnson who is busy nodding that no British Prime Minister could agree to it but passposts European and UK parlins something it's failed to do in the past it hasn't always been an easy experience that Britain's exit will mean reintroducing border posts on the frontier between Northern Ireland which remains part of the UK and the Republic of Ireland which is in the EU added states but the international community and putting at risk Ukraine's further Euro Atlantic integration and finally it's saying to people around the world but you democracy and your support Out Jonathan Powell is Tony Blair's former chief of staff and chief government negotiator for the Good Friday Agreement and he's joining me here in the studio welcome back to our program to get the nod for parliamentarians to come together and get this thing done now the sticking point for Brexit is always you've extraordinarily journey negotiation where he has in fact adopted something trays Ma originally accepted the original backstop which meant the Northern Ireland remained in the country did thirty years ago -Tarian conflict in which more than three and a half thousand people died and that complex painful period of history is why this is so complex and fragile CBS union single-market she went to Brussels sat through junker about to negotiate or is it humiliatingly called back by the up you said no you're not going to agree to that and she the draft Legal Tax Commissioner of published would if implemented undermined the UK Common Market and threatened constitution integrity of the UK off then we have a new and now the prime minister another brexit deal but can this one passed parliament I talked to Tony Blair's former chief of Staff Jonathan Oh you say he he is he has agreed to here's amount of no particular fix principles and he has no difficulty agreeing to something he's contradicted before but it does create problems the good news is to move off she said in fact nobody's prime minister could sign up for an agreement like that can can I play that sound bite please I'm GonNa play it and then we're going to talk about it going into the single market and the Customs Union as originally proposed we will avoid a heart Boorda in between Northern Ireland and the Republic of on that is good that will help preserve the agent Augustine trump overseas I made up an Australian misnamed straightforward you think company should produce on those four because that's where he could get from new is a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK and that's a big problem for the unions the unions believe we should be a United Kingdom and they should be he's the problem is someone's rights always going to get trampled on this there has to be a border somewhere because we're leaving can either between all sides over between the rest of the UK and Northern Ireland what he's e._c. h wherever you download your podcasts different relationship wants to be negotiated Britain's relationship with the but that's not going to happen now this is not a backstop this is what's going to happen from now on now I know what is in the deal might trust has been completely justified it is exciting and positive deal it removes odd former secretary has said there's a quote whiff of sexism in how the Conservatives are backing bars are much more than they backed trees subject to consent of both unionists and nationalists in Northern Ireland this drives a coach and horses through the process sanctity of the Belfast Agreement. I mean Trey well as you've said it looks like actually it's more of a capitulation and more concession to Europe than than trees amazed it an amber move the undemocratic backstop it is a huge advance for the whole of the United Kingdom it will they show that we are one single customs terror so unionist and their rights have been trampled on putting this hard border in okay so let's read this statement they say the government has departed from the principle that these arrangements must be it's quite hard to to take that you know I mean amber rod for instance she's one of the ones who left because of this Saturday this this Saturday given the math given what you know about all of this given the up statement given the fact that the Labor Party the Scottish national sending themselves up not to vote for this when there's an emergency session first time since one thousand nine hundred two in the Falklands war that there is an emergency session of the British parliament on Saturday they do you agree I do really yes I mean if I was raised the mayor it'd be really hoping mad at the moment these rebels who stopped to getting the deal through intruding Boris Johnson okay what he said because he was the hardliner whose whose party in or who's sort of cabal if I can say torpedo trees may look at what he says about this the Daiva we're going to have this continuing saga going on and on so what does that look like this continuing saga because as you just mentioned a couple of minutes ago this deadline the thirty first what does that mean now because they have a deal will will the EU even if the UK wants a delay another extension and the alliance with Boris Johnson in parliament are actually really hard line they didn't vote for the peace agreement did they. They didn't even come good fight smoke and now adopted a deal is actually worse from the point of view of the unionist glorying in it while she was turned over by them but you may have her last laugh because if he can't get it through party the Liberal Democratic Party and all the other party say that they're not going to vote for it what what I what is GonNa Happen on Saturday it looks to me in fact anytime they came was to March we've drums to protest against it but they signed up later to it as an Andrews they basically accepted it later but they weren't there at the time and they are hard line but hurtling towards a no deal she is basically said that what Boris Johnson and actually what Jacob Breeze MoD also has said which is now I really trust in my bones in fact I'm going to Orca seventy surprising things are happening British politics of them they will not get it through without the DP that's the ten Dan they're gonNA get very few Labour rebels voting with them because of the and towards the thirty first October and that date so he's got a real problem in terms of that and the DP I do understand that position not only they pretty hard board moving in that direction and particularly this amendment on the table by two Labour MP's which will enjoy a great deal of support I can't be sure that it will get through but I think he's increasingly going that if in his dream scenario is the PARLAMENTO Saturday votes for his deal he gets it through he goes to an election and he can say I'm the guy who got brexit no one else could get I got it saying that they will not have a say in with that stays position for Britain forever. What's really happened here is this was quarterback stop because there's an insurance policy because we're going to have it being shorter saying there'll be no extension and burst Olsen is forced by the Ben Act The legislation that's being posed to go to Brussels and offering extension they will give an extension I think one like you would end up with a referendum first election second and that's a problem for him because he said he would dine addictive it wasn't done by the thirty first so it's really interesting you you you've said several times we is it to Prime Minister Blair Blair himself they want a second referendum is something that the current Labour leader has never been able to commit to he hasn't give him a big victory because the votes on the left in this country divided now half and half between the Liberals on twenty percent and Labour on twenty percent he actually brexit party to his right because that would collapse go and how will this be spun because one other thing people think is it there might be an election and that Boris Johnson will be able to say look I did it and there were lots of Middle East issues and all sorts of issues during your time and you're very close allies of the United States at that time of course how do you read in those circumstances would have a mess victory and five years in which to implement all of this as hopes for at the moment he doesn't have the numbers to do that he's not going to get it through parliament and that means it's goats and he might have the numbers to get through of course you would then lose many of the hardliners on his inside so it'd be dicey but that might be one way forward which at least give the British people can I make you swerve from Brexit to what we're seeing in in Syria I mean you're a chief advisor on all sorts of aspects to prison to Prime Minister Blair invasion or whatever intervention into northern Syria tragic absolutely tragic Jim Jeffrey Ambassador Jim? Jeffrey negotiated a very good deal with the Turks about John's vote for or there will be no deal because they wanted to try and help for Johnson get this through they called face the prospect of having to negotiate this all over again so they're pushing pretty hard but they're still did it by the deadline I said door die said I wanted to deal I did get a deal I got a better deal than trees may will he be able to spend this like that and then win some kind of resounding election antagonistic position that Boris Johnson has taken they can have a number of the people he's right National Tory policy dating with them he does not have the numbers to get that through at the moment on Saturday and that then forces and also the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said about president trump that all roads seem to lead to Putin is this now sort of Putin in charge they'd have a second referendum and this is what all the remains of wanted this is what you know members of of your own party like Alastair Campbell who was with you in Downing Street and key in order to allow for the withdrawal of Y PG forces from the safe zone for one hundred twenty hours what do you make of that and what will be the big out what the US is doing with its allies in Syria the Kurds abandoning them this this basically green lighting the the will the EU allow that if it can't get through parliament I'm pretty sure that you will allow it they're trying to make this evening quite tough noises saying this is your Good news is good news for him and his profile rather than for Russia Russia does not have the ability to be a superpower in the Middle East in the end the will be an American leader who reasserts American leadership okay on this line once and for all and that would be another massive concession wounded because the last thing Joe Boris Johnson in his kind of hard line group one is a second in Syria Turkish side will pause Operation Peace Spring as they attend receptions and visit hospitals and schools to highlight the importance of education especially for young girls Pakistan is making progress on education it happened with joint patrols by the US Turks or that was ready to play out it was killed by one phone call in the middle of the night it turned the whole thing on its head a now you have it it really it really beggars belief this and our first guest former Russian prime minister was saying that this all of this is a gift to President Putin Talk Vice President Pence and secretary of State Pompeo after meetings with Ed one let's take a listen to the United States and Turkey have agreed to a ceasefire years old for many years now she's been speaking out against abuses especially towards women and girls last year she began to advocate for victims of alleged but it's a country facing serious challenges and our next guest knows that all too well Gula is smile has been an advocate for human rights since she was sixteen does this drew a line under the thing and settled I fear this just means the suffering in Syria goes on and on an old because of a phone call in the middle of the night seems a very strange way to do foreign policy sexual abuse by the country's army and for that she's paid a heavy price a she explained to our Michelle Martin she felt she had to flee homeland a new where you were and here you are in New York you've asked for political asylum what happened that caused you to feel you had come what it sounds like very good news for president to it and what the Americans have actually done is facilitated the surrender of the allies the Kurds and they have to run turn tile and leave their territory that was not your goal that was not your intention I mean one of the reasons that many people became concerned is that a couple of months ago you disappeared and Gatien political participation of young woman I was training young woman to take active part in elections I was training young woman to election monitors and I'm so proud to say that Goulet is smile thank you so much for speaking with us let you said a couple of times that in interviews that he didn't want to leave Pakistan you work with young people to prevent them from being recruitment in militant organisations young people do not deserve to be suicide bombers young people do not deserve to be militants in use the duke and Duchess of Cambridge are in Pakistan as part of an official tour of that country the royal couple of being wowing crowds with their traditional dress he could have cost get this deal through parliament would be to adopt this amendment that's being put on the table which would require confirmatory balanced the second referendum he put that on the table then he'd get the Labor years of Pakistan were taken in control by Taliban and they were recruiting young people in militant organizations that was a point in my life when I decided that I need to leave so I had been working on human rights for past seventeen years I started with working on young woman rights championing Judah because for Gaza the region is just a question of how we have to wait for that at the moment I feel that's what we have lost and the real impact of this is no lie can rely on the United States in these circumstances back of that critical area and not to mention Assad back in charge of his own country AS Roma's customer you're saying I think this is actually is very good news for Putin but I think it's fairly short term it does sound pretty one sided agreements and if I were the could be even more upset about this what's happened to them so far and not even allowed to carry on fighting two thousand nine if you I think the world will remember the Tau militancy became a big phenomenon religious extremism big became a big phenomenon Pakistan and some friend of it is but on the hand he's made so many concessions now including with the new one more section maybe he's only way through and he is this is a very flexible mind maybe Sir lost to the United States lost to the world rather than a long-term gain for Russia Johnson Powell thank you so much indeed well all of this week on slightly focus on young women and girls did you feel at the time safe though even though what you were doing was not universally appreciated applauded or even taken seriously when we were working we were having an impact but most of the people in the community they thought Oh they're just young woman they are just this crazy the milepost teddy blessing to me you know what they'll do is they'll try everything else first and only when everything else failed will end up with a referendum but we just approaching the point where everything else's filed can I they deserve to have a happy life they deserve so we started a network ups network and so you're expanding your work beyond your specific and original in his forces going into this area and death and destruction going with it and it won't be a short-term thing because once they're in place they'll be targets for these gorillas and these gorillas will be attacking themselves the people who are attacking us who are the people that do not like our work but then also come from a country where when state is against you especially when the security agencies of the country in my case is it started with a deadly blossoming campaign online I was accused of blasphemy for being a woman rights activists which is a crime in Pakistan do not like your work then you're often attacked through unknown people so we knew that when unknown people attack you without without anyone woman who are westernized who want to bring in restaurant ideology so initially we were always safe because as young men retard we will never be in two thousand fifteen when local elections were happening then young woman who are trained by organization they were running for public offices so that was kind of work that I was doing in it's intense but also want to accused of blasphemy people can kill you in mob lynching you know one day I woke up I was checking my social media and I saw a who was opposing you attacks are always by unknown you know no one hour took responsibility so it was really difficult to figure out that who against me in my own city people just come up and you know us to banned me or do you do something against me because I'm anti-islam and culture myself so I went to police and also at that time police took my complaint seriously the video was taken off the Internet because we do as dangerous at a young man who was leading two he he threatened me that he will also asked other people to come and kill me so and that campaign became widely on Internet for three months there was so much hate threaten woman when they speak out for themselves on the speaker for their rights and if you do then there will be consequences to it having prevailed in that case what made you feel if terrorism for more than two decades the state of by Kasan has been using travelers to harbored its proxies and use those those Taliban militants there was some young men who who had said that my work on women's rights as irreligious immoral anti-islam and that I'm a tumor to the society I need to be finished they defeated and stop working if we didn't stop Westernising over society than be shall remain ready for consequences that was a time that I knew that Oh work is actually having a huge impact on the society and that is why some people are feeling so threatened they'd be want to silence us at any cost did you have a sense at the time of English wants ability for it then the chances are high that the state security agencies are behind the attack what what exactly did they did they think you were doing that they wanted you to stop ask a crime blossoms crime and you can be punished with the with that sentence and not only the law will the courts can give you bigoted but it changed in two thousand thirteen when for the first time over house was attacked by unknown gunmen they came our door knocking at our door threatening my family tribal areas as a cover for their failure to control these terrorist groups who what is your theory of the case of the Pakistani security forces Haiti's had to leave now at that time a movement emerged general region it was just it was a coincidence that right at that time a movement emerged against yes and he was killed in a fake police counter because of that incident countrywide protests sparked those protests they lead into a long march thousands held
1158: What Did I Learn Too Late In Life by James Altucher on Minimalism & Simplicity
"It's a minimalist Monday edition of optimal. Living daily episode eleven fifty eight what did I learn too late in life by James altar of James altered dot com. And I'm just a Malik and welcome to the podcast where I simply read blogs to you for free like a gigantic ongoing audiobook with many different authors taste post being from James alter a popular writer and podcast her I'll keep this insured. Nice and short for this Monday episode. So let's get right to it and start. Optimizing your life. What did I learn too late in life by James altitude for of James altitude dot com? I kill myself every day nonstop torture for decades and myself was a deadly mixture of anxiety about money. Pain about relationships, petty jealousy. Fear wanted people to like me a stern out of graduate school failed at business failed at jobs lost marriage a house than to always jealous. Always crying. Always. Wishing. I were someone else. I constantly thought about money night and day. I would go to therapists, not to reduce my Ziobro. But just ask them for money. I'd go to psychics and astrologers and ask them when I would make money. They always said next year, you'll make a lot of money or when China was hot they'd say, I see China in your future a lot of money. None of it ever came true. I exalt myself seventy miles away daily my house for three months. I felt dead one day by had a bad trading day. I was so upset when will things change. There was a little island near where? I was I walked into the water. I let the water over my head. And I just floated I wanted to die. I'll so sick of being a prisoner to the enormous desire of money. It was a monster and never left my head. Who was killing me? I wanted to sink the next day. I said why do I keep making it? And then losing it. Why do I keep falling in love? And then disaster. What is going right? When I make it. What is going wrong when I lose it? What is going right? When I fall in love what is going wrong. When I lose that love what is going, right. When I am creative. What is going wrong when I lose creativity? There was a time in early two thousand eight I was writing for the street dot com. Also depressed, I couldn't get out of bed my business partner. Dan was riding four articles a day under my name's nobody would realize I disappeared. I had to change maybe desire equals, anxiety, which equals negatively and became a dick. Added to anti anxiety drugs antipsychotic drugs, painkillers, alcohol, everything that could nummy enough to sleep also addicted to the worst drugs, I'm still weaning off of them a quarter milligram at a time. I've always been in addict, my always will be an addict, I looked back at the best times in my life. When I felt confident when I was making money when I felt the courage to love others when I felt a strength of having others. Love me. What was I doing? Right. I looked back at when I was doing things wrong business failing no friends aboard relationships lying. What was I doing wrong? I didn't have a core. Integrity to speak from. I didn't have a core manifesto now. I do and I try to live it every day. People always want complex solutions to simple problems. But minimalism simplicity less is always the best. So all right. What I've written before may be at a tiny bit the entire universe came from a single infinitesimal dot a fresh start physical health. Eat sleep move, eight hours of sleep. Simply don't eat processed foods. I try I try move on a reason podcast, the author of the bad food bible told me thirty minutes of brisk walking a day is enough emotional health zero toxic people, I have so many angles of this a bad, romantic relationship will destroy every opportunity and friendship in your life. One single bad business relationship can destroy a billion revenue company. One bad friend can cause Munns of executive and worry only thousand knows can find you the right? Yes. To you or special to me, he s creative health while was say, right ten ideas day, not to have a good idea. But to exercise the idea machine, I'm she. No change your life wants developed every day, this idea machine fused, the rest of my life, so miracle. How can you be creative? Might know. Keep a notebook like people writers pad rich idea. Is down for the day. Then write down everything. Interesting to you practice. Right. Ten novel ideas. Right. Ten inventions. Right. Ten things. Mcdonald's can do to be better. Google your friend, your spouse, spiritual health. I hate the word spiritual. It sort of feels gooey, but the essence of spirituality is simply I can't control the world. And the world is an irrational place filled with irrational people and yet happiness still exists. What is obvious might know? But this is what I try friendships and love improvement every day in the activities. I love even tiny improvement and freedom making more choices for myself today than the day before if others are making choices for me, the results won't be as good as my own choices for me, everyone else's agenda is worse for you than your agenda. One percent improvement a day. Whatever I tried to get good at I try to improve one percent a day. How? Mentors virtual mentors. Doing reading writing studying failure never blame always study repeat challenge myself. If I want to get better at something find the worst conditions to practice and Mikhail Botvinnik former world chess champion used to play practice matches with someone blowing smoke in his face. Did he get better? Yes. Did he die of cancer? Probably. But he got one percent better a day less two years ago. I threw away everything I owned. I lived for two years in Airbnb. He's now I am starting to slowly build up in those two years. I was more successful than I ever was I discovered new and great friends, I met someone special when you get rid of the clutter of life of the mind of emotions, then true. Love takes his place. Loving yourself is abundance. From nothing comes everything. What did I learn too late in life? Nothing. You just listen to the post titled what did I learn too late in life by James altar of James Altair dot com. If never too late to learn good message there, and I'll keep this nice and short for you today. So I have a great start to your week. And I will catch you tomorrow where your optimal life awaits. Hey, this is Dan from the optimal finance daily podcast, which is a lot like this show except more focused on personal finance Justin hand picks, the best posts he can find from blogs and authors, like meet Sadie, Mr. money, moustache and more. And I read them to you five days a week. So if you enjoy this podcast, come on over and subscribe to optimal finance daily to and together. We'll optimize your financial life. You've been listening to Optima living daily reassure to hit the subscribe button to stay up to date on each new episode and head to old podcast dot com. That's L D podcast dot com for a free gift as well. As more actionable tips and resources to help you maximize your potential thanks for joining us. And remember, your optimal? Life awaits.
Russia: Putin tries to build an internyet
"Europe. Russia. Putin tries to build an internet as Russian TV viewers shift online. The state tries to maintain control. When the Soviet people turned on their television sets on August nineteenth nineteen Ninety-one. They knew there was an emergency. Every channel was playing classical music or showing SWAN LAKE on a loop a few hours earlier Mikhail Gorbachev had been detained during an attempted coup as the Soviet Union, crumbled, the fisa street battles unfolded over television towers to take the Kremlin. You must take television said one of Mr. Gorbachev's aids, but -demia Putin took note he began his rule in two thousand by establishing a monopoly over television. The country's main source of news. It has helped him create an illusion of stability and whip up and fuses for his foreign wars. But the Kremlin's most reliable propaganda tool is losing its power. Russian pundits have long described politics. Ix as a battle between the television. And the refrigerator that is between propaganda and economics. Now the internet is weighing in. According to the lavar dissenter an independent poster Russians trust in television has fallen by thirty percentage points since two thousand nine to below fifty percent. The number of people who trust internet based information sources has tripled to Nelia quarter of the population. Older people still get most of their news from television. But most of those aged eighteen to twenty four rely on the internet, which remains relatively free YouTube in particular is eroding the state television monopoly. It is now viewed by eighty two percent of the Russian population aged eighteen to forty four channel one. Russia's main television channel reaches. Eighty three percent of the same age. Group bloggers have overtaken some television anchors Yuri dot a YouTube journalist who interviews politicians and celebrities such as Alexei navalny. The opposition leader gets ten million to twenty million views per video much more than any television news program, even Dmitri cosc- the state television propagandist in chief felt compelled to appear on Mr. Durr show. News is the fourth most popular YouTube category among Russians after do it yourself music and drama, Mr. Novell ni who has become a dominant political voice on the internet has two YouTube channels one of which has daily news programs in the past year. His audience has doubled. He has two point five million subscribers and four point five million unique viewers. Month is weeks YouTube webcast is watch live by nearly one million people by comparison channel one's main evening news show is watched by three million to four million people. The Kremlin is desperately looking for ways to control the internet. The government is trying to work out. How to turn the internet into a television says, Gregory a small of an expert on the Russian internet King's College London. This he argues would require not only strict regulation, but control over physical infrastructure and dominance in providing content last month, the Duma preliminarily approved a law on digital sovereignty which tries to separate Russia's internet from the global one it wants to criminalize anti-government messages online in effect, reviving laws on anti-soviet propaganda, yet controlling the internet will take more than a few laws. Unlike in China where the ruling party built it's great firewall by the early two thousands in Russia. The internet was a free zone. Both. In terms of content and infrastructure with hundreds of private service providers in the early two thousands. It became an alternative to state dominated television. The Kremlin did not spot the threat. Indeed, Mr Putin argued against regulating the internet by the end of the two thousand however, online activity spilled into the real world joining a rash of wildfires. In twenty ten thousands of volunteers used crowdsourcing sites to respond to the crisis. This asthma fog us that this self mobilization instilled a sense of agency in ordinary citizens while exposing the government's shortcomings a year later when the Kremlin tried to rig parliamentary elections sites such as goalless ovoid activated. Thousands of volunteer election monitors who. Who recorded widespread violations in the wake of street protests. Mr Putin unleashed repression both online and offline including denial of service attacks on websites new regulations and prosecution of activists in two thousand fourteen he declared the internet a CIA project and demanded that national internet firms move their servers to Russia. The Kremlin launched groups of cyber guards to search for prohibited. Content and tried to hollow out the volunteer movement by replicating, independent crowd sourcing sites with its own it even equipped polling stations with webcams not to increase transparency says Mr. Asmolov, but to create a semblance of it. It also deployed an army of trolls to flood social media with derisive and inflammatory messages. The government pressed Pavel doer of the co founder of V contact. You a home grown social network to divulge user information to the FSP the state security service when he refused. It made him sell the firm to Alicia man of a loyal oligarchy who owns mail dot. Are you a big Russian internet business? The contact. You remains Russia's top social network, partly because it offers pornography and pirated content last year. Mr. Osmonov signed a two billion dollar joint venture with Alibaba a Chinese ecommerce giant, unlike Mr. Dur of Mr. Osman of had no qualms about giving uses data to the security services, which has led to a series of arrests. According to Gora, a human rights watchdog Russian prosecutor's have initiated one thousand two. Two hundred ninety five criminal proceedings for online offenses and handed out one hundred and forty three sentences since twenty fifteen the vast majority originated from the contact your pages. This heavy handed approach has alienated young internet uses more recently. The government has changed tactics. Instead of persecuting uses it is establishing greater control over internet providers. New legislation on digital sovereignty will oblige them to install surveillance equipment that can be operated from a single control center. This will allow the state to filter into net. Traffic isolate regions or even cut off the worldwide web throughout the country in case of emergency. The government showed it can cooled off individual regions from the internet during recent protests in Ingushetia, but replicating China's great firewall may be difficult says Andrey sold it off the author of the red web and an expert on Russian internet surveillance Russia. Is more integrated into the internet's global architecture. Its biggest firms like John decks have servers abroad while global giants such as Google have servers in Russia. Most importantly Russians have grown use to sites like YouTube, which is a big provider of children's entertainment. Banning established platforms like YouTube or Google may be technically possible, but could be politically explosive last year. The state regulator tried to block telegram a messaging service developed by Mr. d'oro for refusing the Russian security services access to encrypted messages. This inadvertently crashed lots of services, including hotel and airline booking systems, which like telegram relied on Amazon and Google servers. It also sparked some of the largest street protests in year's telegramme is fighting the effort to block it and for now, it seems to be winning not least because many government officials use it. But Mr. sold it off argues that the exercise served to intimidate big platforms into cooperating it showed firms such as. Google and Facebook that people in the Kremlin are mad enough to bring down the entire internet. If necessary he says. Last year, the Russian regulator, find Google five hundred thousand rubles that seven thousand six hundred dollars for failing to remove banned websites from search results, the number of requests from the Russian government to remove or block content as exploded in the past two years, the repressive digital sovereignty law already endorsed by Yan decks and mail dot R U two of Russia's largest firms aims to increase the Kremlin's power to cajole and the tactic of persuasion is partially working. Google's latest transparency report shows that it satisfied seventy eight percent of Russian government. Take down requests in the first half of twenty eighteen Mr. Novell, knee, complains that YouTube wrongly removed a paid advert assessment for his protest rally last September at the requ. West of the electoral commission and says it turned a blind eye to the Kremlin's use of thoughts to drive down his videos ratings and stop them from trending. Applying the new law fully, however might be like smashing a computer screen with a hammer. The Kremlin will have a switch to bring down the internet. If a political crisis erupts, but few ways to prevent it from erupting pulling the plug to block. The protesters message from spreading would be the most powerful message of all in nineteen Ninety-one almost no one had internet access that everyone knew the country was in turmoil. When they turned on the television and sore nothing, but SWAN LAKE.
106: Werner Herzog on Meeting Gorbachev
"Welcome to pure nonfiction the podcast interviewing documentary film-makers. I'm Tom powers the documentary. Programmer for the Toronto international film festival and artistic director of doc NYC. On this episode. I interviewed Verner Herzog about his new film meeting, Gorbachev he directed in collaboration with Andre singer whose produced many of Herzog's documentaries Hertzog conducted three interviews with Mikhail Gorbachev that span his career from his rise to power to the break up of the Soviet Union during the last of our three convince ations spending half a year, and a stood that everything about Gorbachev was genuine. In April two thousand eighteen we met again at the headquarters of his foundation to the left under a singer. With whom I have a long history of collaborations. We had planned to beat me of a month earlier. But at that time he was hospitalized having been released a few days prior. He literally summoned us to conclude our conversations. Hertzog was born immunity in nineteen forty two during World War Two. He grew up in west Germany at a time when it was divided from the Soviet influenced east, Germany, he credits Gorbachev for playing an important role in the events that led to the country's reunification meeting. Gorbachev is being released in theaters this month last September, I hosted Hertzog tiffs dot com. Frence here's our conversation. For narration say in setting up your conversation with with Gorbachev one of the themes that comes up is his role in helping foster the reunification of Germany, and and you talk about that as being such an important thing in your life because we're talking about Germans and Russians. I'm going to go back to your childhood growing up in postwar. Germany and ask you. As you were growing up. What it what it meant to you to be German. That was always something difficult because early on the stood that for example in relationship to Russia that the invasion of Nazi armies hit cost death of twenty twenty five twenty seven million people, sell many, people perished, and can I ask it at what age would you have been conscious of that? And how would have you become conscious of that? Fairly early on five six seven years of age. But of course, I had the notion that there was a dangerous world out there. There was something like war out there when I was two years old mother ripped my older brother me in the middle of the night out of our pets. And it was still winter wrapped in blankets and went up on the slopes next to the house, and she said boys, I took you out. You have to see this as a dangerous world out there. And she said the city of hose ni-, miss burdening. You have to see that in the city of goes name, forty miles away and at the end of the valley mountains left and right. You saw the sky it was slowly pulsing. It was not flickering of conflict. Ration-? It was too far away. It was pulsing in red and orange yellow, and and that's engraved into my into my soul forever this image. And I knew there was a world out there. There was something like war, and it was dangerous in burdening and. So I always must very very sensitive to what had happened Russia, of course in particular because. There were so much misery and destruction and devastation inflicted by Germany on Russia in particular. I can't imagine that many Germans thought of Russians aggressors who had inflicted damage and pain on their country. No it. It was quite it was terminally who started to holding. Sorry to say that. But it's correct. And of course, one of the consequences of the second World War was that Germany was divided. And I always had this very deep sentiments this feeling in me that the country belongs together, we should be reunited in think the same way about Ireland. I think the same way about Korea's the north and South Korea. There's something much deeper than just politics in politics, abandoned, reunification at the time where I really became alarmed when villi whom I liked a lot turban Chansa late that time declared the book of the chairman reunification closed. He there was at rationale behind it. He wanted to install steps approach east. Germany, the communist. Communist east to make life a little bit more tolerable for people in the east. But I said to myself now term and chancellor Hess to knowledge there things beyond politics things that are much deeper that of deepest Auricle dimension and contact us, for example, the Nobel prize winning writer was vehemently against unification. And I said to myself if. This quest has been pendant in politics. I'm called upon to held it together. And I walked around my own country. All the situations of the board and up in the mountains down in the mountains. So and I hate the feeling a head to hold it together. And because of that I like garbage off a lot because he made it possible terminus reunited into without any bloodshed all these events normally cost a lot of a lot of misery and bloodshed in violence in. This was nonviolent thing and cover. Was person who made it possible. Now, let me ask you about your history with Russia. What was your first experience of going to Russia? Fien in Russia from the nineteen seventies on but not only restaurant was the Soviet Union. I worked as an actor in a science fiction film in the most of it was shot in Kiev in the two in Ukraine. Some of it in touchy estan in the Palmyre near the Palmyre mountains. How's your role in the film? I was some sort of a prophet. Who who actually has disappeared twenty minutes into the film? I'm cowardly murdered from behind with a spear out. I'm out of the movie after twenty minutes. It was an interesting part made by Peter Fleischmann, one of the young German filmmakers at the time. And I have been often on in the Soviet Union later in Russia in the Soviet Union. This integrated always barking, I was never tourist always working making films. And I am married to my Russian wife who originally came from Siberia, western part of Siberia, so part of my family's is Russian now. And I see. All their travails in tribulations and how they were faring over the last twenty five years have deeper insight in in a way, then a regular tourist would have. And what are the things in Russian culture that you respond strongly to poetry, and you will see in the film about Mikhail Gorbachev. It's not only about this one particular person in a way secretly, it is a film about the Russian soul, and you will see it in coverage of his manifestation of the Russian soul. His steps his tragedy. And at the end all of sudden out of the blue is his says, I'm going to sing hit doesn't sing. But he recites a poem by one of the greatest poets of all time lead. Monta of. Who live between eighteen forty and eighteen forty six. So he he only was twenty six years old when he died in the deal like Pushkin. And this poem has such power in his such depth and gifts so much insight into the very soul of Russia that the moment governor of finishes to recite it he fades away in the Heff, the scrawl of the same poem again because it's so deep in so wonderful. It's useful to be able to take it in twice. Force you to take it in twice. So that's my privilege is a filmmaker. And I just do it. I do it without Eddie. Any constraint? Just love it. I want to ask you about your own experience of the reunification of Germany because it was at the time something that was so unforeseen by most people what are your memories of when that began to occur? Well, saw that for example. Hundreds of thousands assembled each Monday, and they would chart in. It's in the film. They were charmed. We are the people we are the people because the regime always claimed we the government. Representatives of the people and be to our communism in in the name of the people in hundreds of thousands stood up every Monday, and they chanted. No, we are the people in India count overlook human chain in the Baltics half the population of three countries. Held hands. And you see in the film. It's an endless chain of of humanity. And you cannot ignore it. It's it's beyond politics. Some deep quest inside of people and same quest. Like that was inside of me. It took me by surprise because I was filming impact ago Neo on the southernmost tip of South America in the mountains at several talk at the feature film there, and we had barely any contact and only four days belated, I got radio sort of message. The Lindvall has come down and I stopped shooting set to the entire crew in excess. I just heard on the radio that the wall came down. Can we give me ten minutes to absorb it? This is so enormous. So we all stood around and somebody hit a pothole of of brandy and retested it the moment that depth of of this feeling I cannot describe and. I knew it was the first step into reunification, which came only a few years of Hugh years later reunification itself was not a surprise in anymore. You conducted three interviews Gorbachev in October last October, December and then most recently, April, Greg. I'm Greg and you described last night, the premier that you had read his biography recent biography and done lots of other research in IMP reparation for, but you weren't coming to this interview thinking as journalist necessarily, can you describe what you felt your role wasn't interviewing them. Will cover knew that he was not going to talk to journalists in new about about me and my work. He even had many pages. Of explaining himself vis-a-vis, my my work that I had done that said Michele Circe, which please, please. Please don't do that. Now. Let's turn on the cameras it. Let's go right into business. And to new is set in a way in a joke. But it was meant seriously say I am gonna talk to a poet and an SAT are right. Mr president. You're right. And I had no paper with me. No catalogue of question like journalist normally would have. So it was conversations. And I followed the flowing. I try to stretch out my feelers. And I I try to have an understanding of the very basics of the man. And it was good like that. It was good. Like that. In some things. I wanted to discuss with him that were completely unusable. New thoughts. But of course, he's eighty seven years and not flexible anymore wanted to discuss Japan sixteen zero three whether it was a big battle and all boasts, no firearms left twenty six fire arms, but ten years prior in fifteen ninety two ninety three. There was a very big battle, very well talk. You mentioned hundred eighty thousand Japanese submarine on one side and the head one third of them head firearm sixty thousand firearms, and without a formal declaration without any formal sort of treaty summarized decided we are getting rid of firearms. But it didn't last very long what I tried to find out. What is intrinsic quantity of this kind of weapon systems firearms nuclear weap-? Opens. That make themselves hard to abolish we do not want. It yet. They are persistent, and he did not really follow a new thought he would immediately respond with. I would say almost a mantra of getting rid we have to get rid of nuclear arms. He wouldn't discuss a new idea about what makes them intrinsic the fifteenth century. You could not yes, I try to to maneuver in immediately. Saw you cannot do it. Or for example, last meeting? Sometimes very stubborn. We hit our cameras in our sounded our light on wonderfully arranged three cameras, and they said, no, I'm not going to sit in this chair and say, okay, Mikhail's Ritz. Yeah. At his desk in the office. But I said we can't have the cameras moved like he said, oh, it doesn't matter. So we do it without camera. And. I would made camera just grabbed curricula small small tittle camera and started to handheld shoot entire last session. One cabraha hand held in for example, the poem he since he speaks Russian, of course, he understood this was important. I have to hang onto to which record the entire poem. So yes, I had my surprises, and he was very very somehow forceful into I head to follow the flow and enjoyed it. When I I thought this film earlier this summer, it struck me that of all the topics you've covered all the fascinating personalities throughout dozens of films. Politicians have rarely come up if ever I can't even really think of a. Major politician in your work, and I wonder if that was a conscious choice or not will the project was somehow brought to me under singer. Immediately. Understood this was big something of great importance. And I thought can I do it. And I immediately thought yes, I can do this. And it would be a joy to do it. Because I wouldn't couldn't do if anyone a ski flying world champion or a politician or a villain like Aguirre oursel- without somehow having either Tepe respect even love to this character. I said, yes, I'm gonna do it in will to it. Well. Because you felt that. Yes. It was in doesn't matter where I've done a film on a great political figure, it it doesn't really matter. It's always in. Worldview, you see the subjects may maybe very dispersed. But there's a common world Rio in in the film sets. What I that what I noticed when I when I see films on the screen. It's strange. It's moderate. I'm not all the other Mavericks, it'd be films. You think our Mavericks? No, I'm the center in what I'm doing all the other other cows stray somewhere in the distance. I make sense. And hence all the others are Mavericks over your career. They politics does not come up so directly, and I wonder if if you've made a conscious choice to pass to avoid confronting politics. Head on. In movies. Yes. But I have been a politically interested person. But I don't have. I don't have political talents. Your need to be a very good speaker to crowds, then near the very first. Most important step already has has been done. But. I tried to avoid day to day politics in in my films. It's not a fertile ground politics belong somewhere else. But it's not a strange thing that I did a film on Mikhail Gorbachev y-y-you draw on a large reservoir of archival footage, and I feel throughout your films you enjoy working with with other footage. Can you talk about some of the footage that you uncovered here? And what it meant to you. Well, most of the archive footage was stamped by Andre singer, my co-director, and we had some very very. Intelligent researches mostly in Russia. And of course, there are certain things I was looking out for a head red, for example in the wonderful biography William Taubman on Gorbachev. He describes a moment were the aging senile creche niff-, fumbles ceremony handing a medal to cover of and press Neff. Forgets. The name of Gaba of has to be whispered to be assisted by an aide at the microphone is open to pick it up. And then professionally says forgets why is giving the medal and he asks cover of he says come here. Why what was it all about? Why have you come here and cover of puts in the missing word canal because he opened a big important canal impression if happy and say canal, so in new Taubman must have seen some footage and resist medically search tweeden befouled, it it is a remarkable. For example, the last. Predescessor of global off. They all died all old men and drop-off Chaldean coup all in the eighties and champion coup was terminally ill when he was elected. General secretary of the communist party and they staged fake. For example, ballot casting his hospital room was rigged as appalling station and Trump behind an aid helps holding champion could to stand upright. And you see a hand from the side at his waist in say watch the watch the handed his waist and there's a man standing behind him to hold him upright. It was all charade and fake working sessions were were held and new head happened in. I said find footage of it find tried. But of course, it was hard to find it, and we got permission to use it. So some of it was everything to to see how popular gover was in the west. It's easy. Yes. You go to any country visited India will have footage, but. I'm very specific which we found was. Very intense intense search behind it. Let me ask you about your collaborations over the years with Andre saner. He's a filmmaker in his own right with a long career. I understand that you guys began your association nearly thirty years ago when he was commissioning editor BBC and asked you to do lessons of darkness your film about the Kuwaiti oilfields. Well, he didn't ask me to do it. I came with him wanting to do it. Yes. But he mmediately understood. There was something beyond politics, by the way. There was it was bigger than politics. It was intense film never mentions neither the country wide north of Hussein's. Armies who set all the oil wells on fire at that time. And it was so big the event it I said, this is not a political trimbe alone. It's a crime against creation. And because it is so big it has a cost me dimension. I want to do it as a science fiction film. And Andre said that something I've never heard before. Go ahead just do it. And in such a way, we have always collaborated mostly him as a. Producer coporate Llosa. In some cases. We did a small very small film in south of. South of Sudan today, southern Sudan border with. Sorry, Ishioka border with Sudan and Kenya. And we stayed out in the middle of the field and stayed in a tent, and there was something not right with the floor of the tent and he woke up in woke up early in the morning, and actually what was kind of. Starring was big snake under the floor of the Ted. In other words, I have had very intelligent discourse with him very trust full collaboration in productions, and we even slept on the same snake? And it's been a lasting collaborate. I guess this makes it a lasting collaborate. So it's it's it's a family piece owed, but. I wanted to mention it because it's actually the truth and here with Gorbachev. He always understood there was something which is contemporary about Gorbachev I said to him. I do not want to miss around in contemporary, politics, but Moines Cheinal here, we have a case where a great figure of historical dimensions made things possible that were unthinkable at the time the Cold War. It's cold this. He meeting Ronald Reagan. The most unlikely person with whom you would think he could connect and it worked and they together triggered the biggest arms reduction in world history. They got rid of the most dangerous of all weapons systems are short in medium range delivery, systems rockets, where you could hit from German soil the men's room in the Kremlin within two hundred ten seconds. So there's no reaction time in all this all this band until today. These treaties are valid and feeling day something lessen their lesson. We should not return to Cold War. We should not return to augment ING and renewing nuclear arsenals there today injuries and the entire demonization of Russia something. I think is is not productive. And I do believe that Russia would be much more natural ally to the west than other big powers, and hopefully, it will return the climate might shift, and maybe this film could play a little part in it. But it's a very general attitude. It's not we are never discussing Trump were king. You're on your name it, it's it's a it's a mood. It's a very very important edited a climate that has to be created in shoot return. Feels like you want to start from a position of optimism towards disarmament in towards seeking peace. Yes. And mutual respect, it's seeking peace. Well, there is no war between the western. And Russia, but I don't like to see how. How the mood is shifting and the narrative is shifting toward sings at should not have McCain like war or a Cold War. Let me ask you about another filmmaker who made contribution to this film. Nets Attali mon- ski filmmaker from originally from Ukraine spent many years in Russia now lives in Latvia. He's here at this festival with its new film called Putin's witnesses based on footage she shot with Putin in the year two thousand but earlier than that in the nineteen nineties. He had made a film about Gorbachev. And you use some of that footage. Can you talk about this contribution? Well, I'm forever grateful to tally because he would allow me to use an entire segment of his film, which is shot in in the year. Two thousand Easter holiday scub- returned to his home village visits a place where he lived in. It's all empty and everybody has died, and he has reminiscences of his wife grace who was his great love of his life, and he meets his old surviving onto his blind. And it's it's a wonderful encounter. And and I said to tally. It would be wonderful. If you could allow me to use this segment from your film, because I want to show the soul of the man the person that deep soul, of course, I do have other footage and things that I shot myself him reciting, the poem, for example. And what's battalion allowed me to us is filmmaking at its best. It's a wonderful wonderful episode that. I was allowed to use. And I'm very very grateful. I saw his film yesterday afternoon. And I do understand that he has emigrated to Latvia. I do not follow all the details of why. And I do not know all his motivation, but I respect him. And it was the first time you're meeting. I never had seen. Anybody? Didn't even know how he looked like somebody said this battalion was wading. This is him. And I merely gave him a good Varian hug. So you mentioned Gorbachev's relationship with his wife rice, and it is a important part of of your film, and you make a point in the film that of observing how often they appeared in public together. You made the point that it was obvious to me in retrospect, but I'd never thought of before how unusual that had been in the sequence of Soviet leaders before then you never saw Soviet leader. Their spouse. The non-existence in public life non-existent. So I want to ask you to elaborate more on why you felt it was important to talk about that the private side of Gorbachev's life. Besides just as public life. Also wanted to to show the human being and beyond the human being something that is. Particularly russian. There's a depth of of the Russian sell Indian governor of case in in many cases that you see in Russia, a deep sense of tragedy. And he's a he's a tragic figure because he's mostly considered a traitor in in Russia. So he's blamed for the dissolution. Yes. Which union he mentally opposed in the moment. It took place within forty eight hours step back his step down and left political life. So that's a smaller aspect to the tragedy of coverage of but at the same time os fascinated when when you speak about his wife, grace up because. That there's something which I felt in common with him because I'm happy married in since I married. With my wife late night has been like twenty five years of honeymoon. And I feel blessed. And garbage off the same way. He he he knew he knows. He was a blessed. Man, there's nobody like her and. Ahead a hard time to ask him. But I did it. I asked him how much do you miss her? And he looks at me silently in looks and looks and he says. When she died. My life was taken from me. And I do not say anything the hold it. And they held it. Didn't he looks? He looks at me in in this very very intense. Silence. And then he does this. And I still feel the goosebumps. When when I think about this. Make makes me cry. And when I think about this very moving moment in the film that whatever you experience there. I think is transmitted onscreen, but not only a personal moment. It's a Russian moment. And I love Russia for for the depth of their emotions in the depth of their poetry and in the depth of. The discourse you can have with with Russians since you brought up your wife Leno guy should dodge. She's very accomplished photographer. Many other things herself. And you were telling me about an extraordinary project. She's doing right now lost languages may take a moment to ask you to describe that she has done or a Torio. About listen than our composed of voices, Sit Aye extinct, meaning that only existing on in tape recordings in some voices where there is a definitive only lasts speaker language left and combined with a contemplative video, and it's immersive sort of insulation with islands of sound, and it points to something which I find astonishing that the Toronto film festival all of sudden acknowledges indigenous ground on which is festival is held. And we should also knowledge that we have something like, maybe six thousand something languages left, and they're disappearing at a rate that is absolutely shocking and alarming by the end of this century may be ninety percent of all. All the languages spoken today will be lost. And it's not only the language is it's more than that. It's world views expressed in form of language, and I find it alarming beyond description, and she has touched a chord of something very important as important as let's say the ecological movement. Yes, it is important that the snow leopard should survive in some sorts of Wales should survive, but nobody talks about disappearance of human of human cultures and human people and. Languages as someone who was brought up speaking German now speaks English, and I think you have other languages too. When when you are speaking English versus speaking German. Do you feel that you have a different identity? No, not at different identity, but certain caution about language and has been good to married life that with my wife, and I do not speak Russian to speak German to each other. We meet at a. At at a level of language at is neither hers mine, and hence, we are very cautious that very very cautious in all the years. I've been with there was not one foul word, not one aglet word because we are careful with language, and and this is part of maintenance. It's good maintenance. It's my advice for one of my advice. One of my vices. For married life, the daily attention the daily attention. It's a it's a it's a great gift. It's such a such a gift of God that we that we can be married and that things work out in the are not allowed anymore, and you have found your soulmate. It's an incredible gift to to asses human beings. We take care of it. I want to ask you about one of your. Quoted formulations about your nonfiction filmmaking that you're in search of an ecstatic truth. And I wonder if I could just ask you to elaborate, again, what you mean when you describe being insert of an ecstatic truth, I try to make it sort am sick and tired of films only fact-based because facts to not constitute truth factor. Something different important because I have normative normative power. They changed norms. Truth. Nobody by the way knows what it is. Neither philosophers not even mathematicians could tell you what it is. But but I think you basically understand what I'm talking about a quest for it. At least I try to find truth in a deeper way a deeper strout. Of it in that means. Imagination stylized sations sometimes even outright invention in indocumented films because sometimes invention brings you closer to an intrinsic truth, then adding fact fact track track track, it doesn't illuminate you. I'm looking for something that allows us to step outside of ourselves as an audience in experience, something peop- where we take the breath. And we now there's a truth in it. For example, the poem of lemon lemon tough at the end of carbuccia of. Just it it just takes your breath away because steps, and you know, the poem contains a deep truth about Russia, and it contains a deep truth about cover traf- more than any accumulation of facts of his life. And I keep saying if you're think facts create truth, then you better read from first to last page, the found directory of Manhattan for a million entries every single one factually, correct? But it doesn't illuminate you. It's not the puck of books. It is not so get away from the found directory and and go into poetry instead. Birthday last week turned seventy six and I wondered you know, as you get into your seventies. If you think differently about the projects, you take on and the time you have no. I still try I still try on successes unsuccessfully to keep abreast with. Onslaught of ideas and projects envisions in things. So I cannot never catch up. So I finished the film on garbage three weeks ago. But meanwhile, have finished feature film in Japan in Japanese language. I have done almost all of film for BBC on the British writer Bruce Chatwin while I'm sitting here and have to almost finished hymns, therefore five feature films that somehow haunting me and that I want to so I can work faster today because the tools are faster. I can edit today almost as fast as I'm thinking. Grizzly man was edited in nine days into the abyss was edited in five days because digitally. Well, I do not shoot very much. Into the base. I shot six hours footage in further chapel knees feature film full length feature of him. I have six and a half hours footage. So it can be edited quickly because there's not much to edit just put it together. And that's it. And I now it's raw empower full, and you leave it like that. So I. I always in. I have never done anything else in my life. I always do the things. I I'm totally and utterly convinced. This is something you cannot you cannot avoid this is so big you have to do it. It's touches Smith Saudi ply- that I know it will touch some audience out there as well. I'm not a spokesperson. But I know in a strange way that I'm. In contact with an anonymous amount of audience out there for my last question. I don't think I would ever think to ask this. But because you ask Gorbachev I want to ask do, you think about what would be inscribed on your sake? No, it's. Number one. I shouldn't die number two. Shouldn't. Number two. Sorry for saying something impertinent. So but number two, I think there shouldn't be a gravestone. I. I don't know how I would die. But maybe from a stray bullet, sometimes whatever I have left. I've let. Somewhat dangerous life at some. Sometimes I have no clue at when cover of comes up we tried. Yes. It's beautiful one. It is beautiful. I've done my best. I've always tried to be a good soldier never felt was an artist. But I always had the feeling you sold your on. 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Werner Herzog on Gorbachev
"WNYC studios is supported by indeed dot com, are you hiring with indeed you can post job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash podcast. That's indeed dot com slash podcast. Listener supported w in Y C studios. American life and geopolitics are ever more in the shadow of a lurking Russian bear we have to protect our intelligence assets. We do not want to compromise. Our sources in our methods of getting intelligence from any adversary. Let alone Russia the president has given aid and comfort to Russia, which is our enemy even though he won't admit that Russia is our enemy Ladimir Putin. And Russia, our our adversary. Something that's been true for so much of the past eight years that it's almost easy to forget. The decade-long interesting them between the fall of communism and the beginning of Putin ISM. It was a period of relative transparency democracy and peace owing mainly to division and courage of one man Mikhail Gorbachev a young hotshot communist technocrat, he rose rapidly in the shambles of the economically and morally bankrupt empire that had been so mismanaged by the likes of. Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko gambling that the Soviet Union's very survival depended on radical reform or perestroika party leaders installed Gorbachev as performer today to dreams of change embrace the entire nation for people like Joe knew more independence for his homeland for those like value a more decent life. But the future remains uncertain failure to immediately introduced glasnost openness on the way to democracy and the end of communist rule, the iron curtain fell Germany was reunited missiles were disarmed. It was as George H W Bush said a new world order whereupon. Everything went haywire. The nationalist fragmentation of the former Soviet Union crony capitalism of the most malignant kind and the ascension of authoritarianism and renewed. International bellicosity. Gorbachev is now Eighty-eight trying to reckon with his place in history and he's done. So most recently in a film by renowned director documentarian Verner Herzog meeting of this burden history. Please allow me to explain myself. I'm sermon and the first sermon that you probably met wanted to kill you. And so for the latest installment of Bob stocks and this week's podcast extra. I sat down with Herzog to discuss his latest film meeting, Gorbachev I'm not eternally made it always clear to Michelle Gorbachev that he's talking to a poet. Gorbachev is old. I think he's eighty eight eighty eight a bit frail, but he hasn't lost his charm that twinkle in the eye that so mesmerized the west back in the day. Yes. But you are speaking about the twinkie, which is very superficial. But he brought to the west of momentous substance, for example, realignment of the relationships between east and west the Cold War. It's coldest and he connected with Reagan. Nobody would ever believe that such different characters. Like Ronald Reagan. And cuts off would connect and they brought the biggest arms reduction in world history. They defuse the dangerous situation as you said one of the more remarkable aspects of the history of that period was the nature of his western partners. He wasn't doing business in one thousand nine hundred six Jimmy Carter or Peter Paul, and Mary it was Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher who were hard-nosed anti commie hawks. But there's this scene in your film about halfway through. We're Gorbachev seems to chafe at the idea that it was their leadership to deal with him that made all the difference. It was a mutant sort of relationship, including Margaret sets a who was one of the first ones long before he was leader of the Soviet Union to recognize his extraordinary political talents. And then otherwise. Will who won the Cold War garbage of correctly says everybody wanted we gave the signals. This is a new epoch and it's a little bit. Like today. I've got the feeling that the demonization of Russia is a big mistake of the west. Well, hold that thought because I'm not a poet. I'm just to an interviewer, and I'm gonna get that presently. We're history is concerned. There is some question of credit, and then there's blame Putin's Russia and similarly some of the other post-soviet states and doesn't have a whole lot to do with gloss knows. And you know, I don't know what the antonyms in Russian is dependent striker. But I guess there is one so Gorbachev in this film, and I guess in just generally reviewing the scope of his own life and career is at pains to answer for the chaos that he arguably unleashed through his vision and one of. His great regrets is the chain reaction of secession that led to the dissolution of the USSR. He seems truly scarred. By that in the way, he is. Because in retrospect, he says, it would have been so much better for all partners to stay together. But on a much more loose leash the states of the Soviet Union. And that includes storage kicki zero you just cassock STAN they should have had much much more autonomy in they came a little bit too late with it in my opinion. And I think he's aware of it. The demise of the Soviet Union was inevitable and irrevokable building up. You see when you see footage in my film, more than forty percent of the entire population of three countries, Latvia, Lithuania Estonia, lined up in a human chain. And you see six hundred kilometers or more lining without interruption. And you could tell there was deep wish and will in the people themselves beyond politics beyond daily things. We want to be independent nonetheless in the power vacuum. That was created with the dissolution of the Soviet state came nationalism it began to create a kind of wholesale, hyper capitalism that had a lot to do with just looting the assets of the state, and he blames scoundrels like Boris Yeltsin seems to be his better Noir who presided over that period leading to the current situation. Does he question himself and his role of being the agent of change? The I I'm getting out of my depth here. But the first neutron aimed at the nucleus to create. Eight the nuclear fishing. I think he's aware of all this India referring to Yeltsin, of course, that was when things really started to unravel, and I have been in the Soviet Union and know, the time of Yeltsin, and it was catastrophic the rule within a week was birth only one thirtieth of its value before and it's through Russian people into complete disarray. Police was not properly paid to Penzance were not pay teach us where not paid. It was really cut a straw fic- in the country away sold out to what we call the only guards which is nothing else, but organized crime and only under putting things started to improve. When you look at Russia today. Russia has its dignity Beck, and that's the biggest change that you can observe and it is a functioning state, for example, the oil industry. That Yeltsin gave away to the oligarchs well forests by Putin to reorganize in renovate and modernize industries in that paying Texas. Now, they didn't do that during Yeltsin's time. So we have to look at it. With more information about what is going on. However, I keep saying, and I think the film has it in a subversive way in it. These times of Reagan and Gaba of hopefully, what come back again with the most unlikely player in characters in nations all over sudden found common ground, and because of that the demonization of Russia's mistake. It seems to me that as a documentary creator, your particular genius is ability to pose questions that are simultaneously sympathetic and. Damning, they get gently to the nub of an issue without being hostile or confrontational. Is that what you're up to here with Mikhail Gorbachev? Well, I think my questions were not irreverent or sell at sometime says humane it in sometimes they come out of nowhere off Kim about his legacy. What should be on your gravestone? And it gives some wonderful answer we tried. It's really beautiful and what I tried to do in. The film is not only giving some sort of a sense of what was going on in world history. The momentous things of the end of the twentieth century. It was also an aim of nine to show it some moments soul of the men and even showing it fleeting moments sell of his country. Russia, and you see that for example, at the end of the film where he recites the most wonderful poem, and it's so good in so deep laminated. Limit of a repeated even as a scrawl. The end because that's where you get a feeling of the depth and the beauty of Russia for some years after resigning from office Gorbachev remained on the world stage. But now, I guess for reasons of age and infirmity he's largely withdrawn from public life in your film. He becomes not just a tragic hero. But I don't even know how to put this a smaller than life figure. No, I disagree. Let go well. Does your film? Seek to elevate him. Does it? I I see you disagree, but to break, your heart. If I say it shrinks him. No, it doesn't the main when he's infirm and wait until his stead. We will see the monumental size of the tree that has fallen you. See the more his infirm, the more huge here piss to me. The Xi effect that some Russians see him as a traitor is something slightly tragic. But it's changing. Now a confused. I can send it please. Forgive me for going through are about to go. But one of your most famous films is not a documentary. It's a dramatic feature called FitzGerald auto nine hundred eighty two something like that. Yes. And is about a man who also undertook a quick I can almost inconceivable venture not to dismantle an evil empire. But to drag a three hundred ton riverboat over an Amazon mountain and in that film, he succeeds in his proximate goal of getting the ship from one river tributary to another. But because of some unforeseeable intervention of others. He automatically fails and has to be content with the largely. Symbolic triumph. You see where I'm going with this. Yes. But I would not see a direct parallel now to the vision of Gorbachev in the result of it. It's it's not been a folly his not being a dreamer. He's very pragmatic. Intelligent, shrewd politician, and understanding what was doable in politics. He achieved things that nobody believed could be possible. We need this kind of people in politics today. There's definitely a shortage of visionaries. Yes. But it's not only visionaries. He keeps saying dude. The doable politics is the art of doing the to the very act of focusing on historically significant figures can leave the background out of focus in meeting Gorbachev where give. Virtually no contemporary context and we began to. About twenty first century Russia about Putin Russia, which may indeed be a functioning state, but has also equal parts state and continuing criminal enterprise at least by my lights. This was obviously a decision on your part in his no, it was mostly governor troughs decision, by the way, he disagrees with Putin in many things, but they both respect each other. It was basically his decision to head the feeling. This is not a biography uncover of nor is it something that should reflect today's politics because if a had spoken in detail about Putin, we should have spoken in detail about Donald Trump is well, I'm so I'm not placing the name. Well, they had through players who were. Like Ronald Reagan at the time. I do remember that everybody somehow demonized in many countries that I have been in. They kept saying I Ronald Reagan is is trusted mediocre Hollywood actor now he's acting the part of the president. And nobody saw that he must have very shrewd politician, and he was not only an actor. Whether he was great or not doesn't matter. He came from labor unions. He let the Screen Actors Guild for long long time, he was governor of California in so don't miss underestimate regular. That's what I kept saying. Because of the Putin regime. It is easy to look upon Gorbachev's legacy as to have amounted to just more heartbreak. What am I missing to draw that conclusion? Number one. I think you're too much into the narrative of the western media. Take a good look at what Russia's today, and I would advise you travel there and take a good look speak to the people look around. Secondly, I do believe that what governor chopped it in Reagan. It is something that's very badly needed stops the demonization and look beyond the horizon. It was exactly what Gorbachev did together with Ronald Reagan. And it was a time where the coldest war was so called into a stained, drizzly cold. We need to look at the current situation and look beyond the horizon, and then to the right thing Russia is not a danger to the west Russia's not a danger to the west, but political opponents or murdered. You will not drag me into becoming a pundit. But they're evolutions now in the balance of power in the world. And I mean the. Real big worms and don't go into smaller things like Syria. So there's big big things out there. They will emerge, and they will become much more dangerous in Russia would be and the German security advisor of Helmut Kohl determined chancellor. He says in I think rightly so Russia has it's safest Boorda with the west. The west does not pose danger to Russia and Russia doesn't pose a danger for the west either in say that in your film. He said the west poses no danger to Russia. Yes. He didn't say the reverse. That's correct. Yes. But it is meant Russia doesn't want to invade western Europe. Whatever that would be silly to the -ssume that the safest Barda that Russia has a border with the west. The problem of Russia is basically the movement or the. Expansion of NATO, which is moving all the way to the Russian Boorda and over fifty six percent of the population in Russia. Find the expansion of NATO an existential threat what if let's say NATO hit dissolved like the voice OPEC and Russia had promised never to expand. But all of a sudden they start expanding, and they would have all of a sudden military maneuvers two hundred thousand soldiers together with Canadian troops at the board with America three Achraf carry us in Tijuana in Mexico fifty thousand soldiers in let's say Jamaica smoking weed and drinking run, but being there rocket basis in let's say the Bahamas Indian Iceland would America not feel existential threatened. Well, I'm not. Always say drawn. Now, the security situation between US and Russia either. No, it's I'm fantasizing. But it's in a way has relationship with realities because that's what Russia is feeling an existential threat of NATO moving all the way to that. Or you obviously were well grounded in the history of Soviet Union, and particularly with respect to Germany when you walked into that room with Mikhail Gorbachev for the first time, and you also obviously were well grounded in his history. What did you learn above all in those three sessions? I think beyond what you can learn from reading the history books in what you can learn reading his autobiography and other books on him for me, the real revealing thing was to meet a man of his calibre in depth, a man of very, very deep soul. That makes me like Russia not seeing a man who's been in politics. And yet he's a man of very profound poetry and profound emotions in profound. Here's a very deep sold. And that's how I see Russia a country that has a soul of with a depth that you cannot find in any other country that I've seen. Vera. Thank you very much. You're very welcome. Verner Herzog is the director of meeting Gorbachev and about twelve or thirteen thousand other features and documentaries over six decades. That's it for this week's pod. Extra for more OTM sign up for our newsletter. Like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter. WNYC studios is supported by indeed dot com when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need. Help getting near shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com post a job in minutes. Set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard. And when you need to hire fast, accelerate your results with sponsor jobs. New users can try for free at indeed dot com slash podcast. That's indeed dot com slash podcast. Terms, conditions, and quality standards apply.
Another Returned Painting
"The. Hi, I'm calling your host of the good news podcasts. And I'm Neil. The other host. The good news podcast is your source for good news, fun stories auditory, delight and sonic. Joy. We're bringing all of this goodness to you from the cards against humanity studios in Chicago for today's episode. We're bringing you another story about a loss piece of art being returned to its rightful owners. The story comes from Connecticut. We love Connecticut. We really do. You're from Connecticut. I'm from Connecticut. Connecticut got some hometown pride baby everybody. Connecticut. People have the most. Yeah. Well, we're we're nutmeg years. To set the scene. This painting is called secret departure of Ivan the terrible before the upper China. This is a very descriptive, title, Ivan lick sad and coal to me. But it looks like he's making it out. It was painted by Mikhail Pennine in nineteen eleven the painting disappeared from a Ukrainian art museum in World War Two. Now, we meet David and Gabby, Tracy. The most recent owners of the painting another thing to know about the painting is that it's huge like seven feet tall by eight feet wide. And that's a monster paint. You know, that makes me think about the painting in Ghostbusters to. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I am mansion that says it's very similar. Oh, yeah. So when David moved into his current house, the gigantic painting was included in the price of the house. Can you imagine that you're signing the contract, and they're like, you know, what we can't move. This thing is yours. Now. I mean one hundred percent I would have expected that to stay. They loved the painting. So they got it in that house. But if since moved and moved the painting with them, they love it that might they they loved it enough to move it. So now, David and Gabby are retiring he and his wife were moving and they wanted to see about selling it. They had the painting listed with an auction house, but they were hit with a cease and desist letter from the original Ukrainian museum working with ambassadors and investigators from the US and Ukraine. The painting has been returned to the Ukraine, the previous owner of the house and the painting hasn't been identified but had been a member of the Swiss army and died in the mid eighties. The Tracy's were happy to return, the painting and hope that someday in the future. They can make a trip to visit the painting in its new old home back in the Ukraine. Wait, how did it get the United States? That's a great question as a huge painting. Yeah. This unidentified Swiss man, rolled it up and. Put it in a duffel bag somewhere. Just so mysterious. It is super Mr. I think the fact that it's huge adds to. Yes. Yeah. In my head. It's a wealthy Swiss nobleman who is is leaving Europe. And this was some loot or some booty. Yeah. And it must have been in like a trunk or something. I'm imagining like a large leather red leather trunk full of art. Yes. All drunks. If a truck was a muppet. Thanks for listening. Do you have good news? Awesome. Or maybe wanna tell us a joke or idea? That's amazing Email us at good news at cards against humanity dot com, or leave his voice voicemail. Seven seven three two one seven zero one five six you can also tweet us at the good news pod. And if you love the good news podcast review us on items. We'd appreciate it. Most of our music is by putting bear same place. Same time tomorrow.
Tall Stories 157: Helsinkis Mikael Agricola church
"What's the secret to a happy life for the answer? Join us in Madrid from Thursday, the twenty seventh to Saturday, the twenty ninth of June for Monica's fifth annual quality of life conference. Head to conference dot Monaco dot com for all the details and to buy, your ticket, Monaco, keeping an eye and here on the world. Imagine talking. You'll see two stories on monocle twenty four gorge by the team behind the NIST the show on about the cities. We live in this week, Monaco's, Marcus hippie takes us to Helsinki where one church has unique feature that most Finns have never heard about here he is. When you approach hills and you buy your fairy one of the buildings are likely to sports, I is the Mikhail arguable church named after Lutheran clergyman credited with creating the basis for written finish in the sixteenth, century. This building is one of the highest in central Hilton its top reaches hundred three meters above sea level, and the needle thin, thirsty meal steel spire is tough to miss. Some people claim that you could see all the way to tell on the other side of the Finnish Gulf in clear, weather, but that has not been proved, so don't quote me on that. It may just be an urban legend. These beautiful church was built in the nineteen thirties, when hilson he was still a young city and just a fraction of the size this today. It's functionalist style was't or without controversy almost ninety years ago, but it has seen a one the public over. When I look at this Mazda piece, I can't help wondering if it's architect to lot of song and designers, a gut feeling back in the day of turbulent times ahead as the needle at the top of the building can be retracted if necessary to prevent enemy bombers using the towers or navigational aid. This was done at least once during the second World War when Finland was fighting against the Soviet Union and the USSR place were approaching Helsinki seen as the big war Mikhail article church has witnessed many milestones off my home country. The nineteen fifty two Olympic Games being one of them as. Us off course the Hanson Eurovision song contest in two thousand and seven but a more serious note, this church is now playing series and valuable role in marrying gay couples Finland. Same six law. Came into force recently, despite the law. There are churches still rebelling against it. But thankfully, Hilton churches are not instead, they are proud to invite gay couples to their premises Mikhail arguable church being one of them, and it warms, my heart to see this Mazda piece of a building place, its own little role in making Finland's a better place for Monaco. I am Marcus hippie. You've been listening to tool stories among ical twenty four production things. Tamales hippie for today's episode. Remember, tune in every Thursday for the full thirty minute edition of the imagine talk. Goodbye. Thank you. Listening city lovers. Why not take a wonder into the wonderful world of Monaco with an annual print subscription you'll receive ten issues of the magazine year plus are seasonal specials the forecast and the escapist subscribers to our one year, plus and premium package is also receive our new annual the, Monaco, drinking and dining directory. And that's not all age of our plans comes with a free tote bag to live to your door. We invite all fans of the tip scribes today and receive a special ten percent discount on any of our year, long, subscriptions, simply visit Monaco dot com forward slash urban est that's never been a better time to sign up, Monaco, keeping an eye on the air on the wall.
The Vladimirovichi Pt. 1: Three Brothers
"In the early hours of June thirteenth nineteen eighteen. Thirty thirty nine year. Old Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich found himself shackled in a carriage held captive by the Bolsheviks next to him. What's his British Secretary Nicholas? Johnson it had been over a year. Since Mikhail's brother czar nicholas the second abdicated. The Russian Throne Maceio had the chance to replace him but he knew it wasn't what the people wanted and declined the throne. He thought just saying no would be enough. But it wasn't. He was still a Romanoff when the Bolsheviks seized power Mikhail was arrested less than six months later he we knew he would never see freedom again not while they were in control and win a small fraction of the revolutionaries took Mikhail and his secretary out of their permit herm hotel he knew the end must be near at around two. AM their captor. Ordered them out of the carriage Mikhail went I. He wondered if they were going to torture him or if they were going to make it quick all he knew was he wasn't ready to die. Mikhail had only taken in a few steps when he heard the shots he turned and saw his secretary on the ground. Dead Maceio ran to his friend. Arms stretched out out and then more shots rang out Mikhail went limp and fell blood pooled around his head staining the muddy grass ass the thirty nine year old grand duke was dead the first Romanov to be executed by the Bolsheviks but he was far from the last welcome to survival apar- cast original regional. I'm your host Irma Blanco. And I'm Tim Johnson every Monday. We'll take you inside incredible true stories of life or death situations you can find episodes so it's a of survival and all other parkas originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream survival for free on spotify. Just open the APP tap browse and type servive in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and instagram. AM At podcast and twitter at podcast network and if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening? It really does help. Today we begin our discussion of the Vladimir of itchy Russian Grand Dukes. Kirill Boris and Andrei. These three brothers were forced to flee Russia between nineteen seventeen and nineteen twenty as revolution and civil war engulfed the country this week. We dive live into the privilege. Lives of the grand. Duke's Curiel Boris and Andrei Vladimirovich and the buildup to the February revolution which resulted in the abdication of sorry. Nicholas the second next week. We'll follow the VLADAMIR VICI heroine's journey as they attempted to evade the Bolsheviks during the Russian civil war one note prior to the Russian revolution Russia went by the Julian calendar. For Our story we will be using the corresponding dates from the more common Gregorian Orien- calendar which is thirteen days ahead by eighteen. Forty eight revolution in had taken hold over Europe. The working class and the poor had grown tired of European aristocracy and revolted. France Italy the Austrian Austrian Empire Germany and Hungary were all swept into chaos over the course of a single year though these revolutions all failed the spirit and idea behind them never left in the ensuing decades the ideals of socialism and communism were quietly whispered in taverns governs and homes across the continent. The bourgeoisie would Sunday face a reckoning. The same revolutionary ideas made their way into the minds. The Russian people the spirit of eighteen forty eight hadn't died it had simply moved regions. It was only a matter of time before the fire of socialism swept up the whole of Russia as socialist fervor was being whispered amongst the Russian people in taverns factories czar Alexander the second and welcomed another grandson into the royal family on October Twelfth. Eighteen seventy six Vladimirovich was born to Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich Alexandrovich and Grand Duchess. Marie Pavlova key real was quickly joined by two brothers and a sister. Boris on November Twenty Fourth Eighteen eighteen seventy seven Andre on May fourteenth eighteen seventy nine and Elena on January seventeenth eighteen eighty two following Russian patron emit custom. The children all used Vladimir to form their middle name growing up a Romanov in the eighteen. Hundreds came with the glamour of any Royal Family. All of the Vladimir VICI had the fortune of being well educated with private tutors learning to speak English Russian German. An and French following tradition. The boys all joined the military when they were teenagers Keel who loved the C.. Naturally joined the Imperial Navy TV. Boris went to cavalry. School and Andre eventually studied artillery. The brothers each had their idiosyncrasies. The eldest Kiro was the admirable one. Boris the handsome Don Juan Middle Son and Andrei the fun loving youngest but they were fiercely loyal to each charter and to the Romanoff name on May Twenty six eighteen ninety six Nicholas. The second was officially coronated. Aided as SAR Keel in particular marvel that the spiritual and symbolic rituals that took place during the ceremony and found found himself. Even more proud to be a Romanov. However Nicholas's rain was off to an ominously bad start during an event for the people title of Moscow to celebrate the coronation? A rumor made its way through the crowd of nearly five hundred thousand that the booths with free beer commemorative if mugs and sausage had begun to run low as people pushed through the lines. Panic took hold soon a human stampede. It broke out. Human Stampedes are more common than one would expect breaking out at sporting events music festivals or large religious ceremonies Monet's in small spaces. Poor event organizing and Claustrophobia can lead to panic and a rush to get away as soon as possible though easier said than done one of the key aspects of surviving a human stampede is to try and remain calm when running with the flow of the crowd. Keep your hands at your chest so that you can protect your lungs and keep breathing. Most deaths during stampedes are caused not by trampling but by fixture being able to control your breathing. We'll keep you on your feet. When the dust settled over one thousand three hundred people lay dead on the ground the disaster astor became infamously known as the hit disco tragedy though Nicholas wished to show his respect to the people? His family advised him to attend. End a ball in his honor. Instead as Russian scoured the field of dead bodies for their loved ones the aristocracy dined on fine meats. It's and Wine Curiel. Vladimirovich would simply call the tragedy a disastrous oversight once the fallout from the head inskip tragedy subsided life carried on for the Vladimir of itchy. For Kierell. Much of his focus was on his not so secret. Affair with Princess Victoria may lead to a relationship that caused a scandal in the family to issues arose. For starters. Kiro and Victoria were first cousins. Although marriage between cousins wasn't completely out of the norm for European royalty it was strictly prohibited by the Russian Orthodox Church coach. The second issue was that Victoria was already married. But Kirill and Victoria were undeterred. However they did keep keep their relationship as discreet as possible? Even after Victoria divorced her husband in one thousand nine hundred one for curious brothers. The years following the coronation nations were spent focusing on world tours. Various romantic affairs and spending money. Boris in particular spent more time travelling than working on his military studies in Boris's mind returning to Russia with a train full of Parisian street art or Japanese statues was more important than practising cavalry maneuvers. While the VLADAMIR VICI toured the world and struggled with love. Their country was headed towards war and soon they would be called to do their part for the motherland. For years relations between Russia and Japan had been rocky especially when it came to the regions of Manchuria and the Korean Peninsula as negotiations between the two countries broke down. Czar Nicholas believed an easy war with Japan. Pan would be good for public morale but Japan struck first on February eighth nineteen four. The Japanese made a preemptive strike strike on Port Arthur along the Yellow Sea when the Russian military mobilized in response twenty eight year old Kierell and twenty-seven-year-old Boris. Boris readily volunteered. For the 'cause they were sent to the Far East on the flagship Petropavlovsk while the youngest brother Andrei stayed date and Saint Petersburg once they made it to hostile waters. Kierell and Boris quickly learned peacetime military maneuvers in the academy. Me were much different than war itself. In the early hours of April Thirteenth Nineteen Four. Curiel walked the a deck of the Petropavlovsk annoyed that Boris had left the ship to go horseback riding. There was a war going. How could Boris be so selfish breathing in the cold morning? Air Kierell watched the battleships extended wake as it entered Port Arthur. All of a sudden mm-hmm was thrown in the air and landed in a cold. Yellow Sea emerged from the water shock as he fought to keep his head above water he looked around and saw men screaming in agony struggling to stay afloat themselves he looked back at the Petropavlovsk to his horror are. The battleship sank within minutes but the time to mourn would have to wait he needed to get out of the freezing water Kiro was. I was fortunate. He was an experienced swimmer and was wearing a padded military code and a woolen sweater. Wool is popular among fishermen and sailors. Because it's water. Resistant will also has the distinct ability to capture heat. Better than other textiles run on animals like sheep who needed to protect them. From extreme weather. Wool fibers are very fine and when spun together in a coat they can trap in body heat quite well of the seven. Seven hundred men on board only eighty survived. Thanks to his swimming ability and warm clothing. Kierell was among them for the first time. Ever the Vladimir VICI had faced danger and death though it would be far from the last time the sinking of the Petropavlovsk would have a lasting effect on Kiro though he would heal from his physical wounds. Psychologically he suffered from what would later be described as post traumatic stress disorder. Kiro suffered from prolonged nightmares. The explosion a sudden fear and avoidance of the ocean which he used to love was a child as well as survivor's guilt because PTSD wasn't a formal diagnosis. At the time. Kierell wasn't treated with medication. Jenner psychotherapy two prominent ways to help manage the disorder instead. He was sent to Europe to recover and in the process of that recovery. Sorry he was able to focus his attention on the love of his life Victoria may lead to meanwhile the Russo Japanese war raged onto massive unpopularity. The Japanese were crushing the Russians in battle after battle it was clear that Czar Nicholas had no idea how to wage a war. Let alone win one. To make matters worse Russia had become increasingly industrialized. Thanks to economic comic reforms by Nicholas Ministers workers experienced massive exploitation toiling up to twelve hours a day for little pay in dangerous injuries conditions as many of these urban workers learn to read. They turned towards the socialist. Words of Mark's ingles for guidance tensions among the working working class finally reached a breaking point in December nineteen four when four workers at the poodle of iron works were fired the head of the assembly of Russian Workers Father Georgi Gabon demanded they be reinstated he also made demands for increased wages eight eight hour workdays and an end to the war when those demands were not met he called for a mass strike on January anuary twenty second nineteen o five father. OPON- led thousands of protesters to the Winter Palace. The enormous crowd sang. God God save the czar as they marched to deliver their petition when the protesters arrived at the Winter Palace. They were confronted by the Imperial Guards Cards. In order to halt the protesters ignored the order and kept marching and then shots rang out as the lawn of the Winter Palace descended into madness. The imperial guards drew their sabers and began cutting down the fleeing protesters when the so-called Bloody Sunday massacre ended over a thousand protesters were dead. And even those Czar Nicholas wasn't at the palace during the killing. The increasingly unfavorable reputation of the Romanovs. Took another major hit in response to the massacre waves of protests and civil unrest swept through Russia unlike the hood inskip tragedy. The Romanovs couldn't ignore this one for the next several months. Men and women all across the empire participated in Mass Labor strikes demanding an end to Romanov tyranny. The Revolution of nineteen o five had begun throughout the rest of the year. Nicholas discovered he was unable to deal with both the war in Japan and the protesters in Russia with loss after loss against the Japanese. It became painfully obvious that it was time to accept defeat in September. Nineteen O five with the help of President Theodore Roosevelt. A peace treaty was signed and the Russo. Japanese war was finally over but the war had been over for keells MIRA vich for over a year. He was still recovering in Germany when the treaty was signed living twelve hundred miles from Saint Petersburg the revolution of Nineteen O. Five was of little concerned concerned. Him All he cared about was legitimising. His relationship with Victoria with the Russo Japanese war over key real hoped that his cousin cousin czar would consent to the marriage Nicholas still refused to give them permission to wed however Kierell and Victoria decided to get married anyway on October eighth. Nineteen O five the two lovebirds both twenty eight years old tied the knot in in a small ceremony outside of Munich only to Romanovs. Were at the wedding. Victoria's mother and Carol's uncle when word got back to Nicholas Nicholas. The czar was furious. It was bad enough that the peasants were causing trouble but now his family was openly defying him as well and and while quieting the Revolution of Nineteen O. Five was a complicated task. At least he could take direct action against Kiro little rebellion a few weeks after the marriage. Czar Nicholas Stripped Kirill of his naval. Rank took away his income and banished him from Russia. The News Devastated Boris and Andrei as well as their parents and though their father begged his nephew czar to change his mind Nicholas. This refused to reverse course Kiro accepted the punishment he knew the risks. He was taking by marrying Victoria without the czars consent sent but he didn't care. He was in love with Victoria at his side. He didn't care that he was now living in exile. But the question on every Romanov's mind was for how long coming up turmoil continues Tinubu to rock Russia and the ROMANOFF struggle to maintain power their four-legged full of love and oftentimes times. More like family than their nickname suggests the podcast original series dog. Tales tells the true stories of heroic canines who have gone above and beyond their their best friend duties every Monday dog tales embarks on a new journey of courage service and unwavering sacrifice by our most loyal companions. You'll hear tales sales of inspiration from all breeds of life like buddy. The German shepherd the world's first seeing I guide dog or Huskies Balto and Togo. The sled dogs folks who made a lifesaving medical delivery from anchorage to nome each episode of Dog Tales is as unique as the pumps themselves and shorter. Bring you closer to the furry friend in your life so get ready to sit stay and roll over with excitement for podcasts endearing series dog tales listener dog tales. Free on spotify. Or wherever. Ever you get your podcast now. Back to the story in one thousand nine hundred five. The workers of Russia were tired of the exploitation. They faced in the factories as well. As the unnecessary and disastrous war with Japan wave after wave of mass protests and strikes flooded the streets of Saint Petersburg amongst this turmoil scandal had struck the Romanov family twenty eight year. Old Grand Duke. Curiel Vladimirovich married his first cousin. Princess Victoria Melita. Without Czars ars consent punishment the two were forced into exile with Kirill banished from Russia and the war with Japan over Nicholas. coolest turned his attention to the violent mass protests at the behest of one of his Ministers Nicholas delivered the October manifesto. The October manifesto established the Duma in elected legislative body that was intended to give more power to the people however at its inception exception. It was week even though he claimed that no new law could go into effect. Without the Duma's approval Nicholas was given the power to veto any bills. He wished while liberals rejoiced the Marxist did not for them. This largely symbolic step was nowhere. I'm nowhere near enough. And for men like Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky they were determined to one day overthrow the Romanov autocracy Chrissy for Kierell. Who was supposed to be reeling in squalor? As an exile in Europe this period of his life was the happiest he'd ever been with with the financial help of his parents curios. Burgeoning family was able to travel around Europe on permanent vacation but after two two years of exile tragic circumstances pave the road for key roles return home on February seventeenth nineteen o nine grand and Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich died the tragic death of the Vladimirovich. His father was enough to push Nicholas into forgiveness key. Real was allowed to come home and be with his family. Nicholas even recognize. Kirill and Victoria's marriage and made Victoria a grand duchess. After after years of turmoil the Romanov family was finally seeing some stability in May Nineteen O. Nine Kierell was named second in command of the naval cruiser. Oleg a year later he was promoted to captain but while Carol Dove headfirst in his new military assignment. His brothers were less dedicated to their royal duties. Though Andre traveled on various diplomatic assignments his attention was more on his not so secret. Affair with Feigned Ballerina Mathilde Chechen Scott and Boris spent most of his time throwing extravagant parties that his Dutcher Cha a seasonal cottage but for the imperial family an outsider had managed to invade the family circle and it would have dire consequences consequences as early as autumn nineteen eight a mysterious charismatic monk named Grigori. Rasputin had earned. The favor of the SAR and Serena their son Alexei suffered from hemophilia a condition. They kept secret from others. When Alexis conditions seemed him to get worse they turn to rescue who claim to have faith healing powers? It's still unclear. Exactly what Rasputin did to heal Alexei Day. But it was enough to gain the trust of Nicholas and Alexandra so much so that in the years that followed respite and became a fixture at court. Rasputin time at court was rife with scandal. He was consistently drunk accepted bribes in exchange for political favors and exercised sized undue influence over Nicholas and Alexandra rumors even went around. That Rasputin and Serena were secret lovers. Something Rasputin Butin. Didn't deny for the first few years the Romanov family was able to contain what little the public knew about Rasputin. They tried to quietly pry this czar away from US influence but Nicholas remained loyal to the mad monk but thanks to the abolition of censorship laws in nineteen zero six. The press was able to sniff out with the family had tried so hard to keep secret word of Rasputin influence. Made a public opinion of Nicholas and Alexandra's plummet luckily for Nicholas. He had a chance to distract from the damage with the upcoming Romanov. Tercentenary Mary beginning in February nineteen thirteen. The tercentenary was a nationwide celebration of three hundred years of Romanov rule. It was filled with blatant propaganda as an attempt to turn the public opinion in the royals favor. The propaganda worked scores of men. Women and children showed their love for Nicholas as he and the royal family toured the area of Russia known as Muscovite the land symbolizing the beginning of the Romanov Dynasty as curiel would later write Russia and the Romanovs are inseparable. They are linked together in one. I'm destined in the summer of nineteen fourteen hero and his family spent their time cruising around Europe. Carol had come to to enjoy driving cars and with the Tursun tannery finished. He was able to take his family on an auto rally through the Baltic countryside and on August August I the final day of his journey Kierell heard the news. Russia was at war with Germany after the assassination of archduke Franz Ferdinand and Duchess Sophie in June. All of Europe was on edge peace negotiations. It's failed and war descended across Europe. It was Russia England and France on one side and Germany and Austria Hungary on the the other Kierell. Boris and Andrei knew they had a duty and immediately answered the call to arms but the Vladimir Miramichi service in the Russian army during world. War One was more decorative than anything unable to serve in the Imperial Navy Keel joined the general all staff of the imperial guard as commander of the Naval Guard. Boris and Andrei were nominally. Given Command of their own regiments but they were more or less less confined to desk duty. None of them saw battle on the front lines. In fact Boris lived his life the same way he did before the war while Russians died by the thousands along the eastern front he was throwing extravagant parties and dinners in the countryside it was during one of these gala Alice in June nineteen sixteen when Boris managed to get himself into hot water with the British not only was Boris useless on the battlefield but but he was unable to show tact with his country's own allies during dinner with British officers. Boris got drunk and accused the British of doing nothing thing in Verdon. While the French were getting massacred he even went so far as to threaten. You can't be certain that the moment pieces signed with Germany. We we shall go to war with you. Of course it was easy for Boris to make drunken threats. He knew very well that he would not have to see a single go. MINUTE OF COMBAT IF Russia did go to war with Britain but he was willing to put his people at risk in the name of acting. Tough at a dinner party Boris's this is in subordination. Got Back to our Nicholas as well as General Sir. Alfred knocks the commander of British forces in Russia Boris. Chris was forced to apologise though. They accepted his apology. They would not forget the insult since. Czar Nicholas had command of the entire Russian army the empires day to day operations were now under the control of CZARINA. Alexandra and unofficially Grigori Rasputin. The results. Were disastrous domestic policy including the hiring and firing of government. Ministers was done. `and by the CZARINA. With Reston's influence there was a rising food shortage for both the citizens and the soldiers which the dynamic duo was not not able to handle and as the war raged on rumors began to circulate that the German born. Alexandra was a secret spy for the enemy. Any by now it had been ten years since Rasputin arrived at court. Many in the Romanov family tired of his insidious presence in there is if both Rasputin and Alexandra were out of power. Then the rest of the Romanovs reputations would surely be repaired on December December Thirtieth Nineteen Sixteen Grigori Rasputin was brutally murdered by members of the Russian aristocracy two of the conspirators. Spiritus were Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich and Prince Felix Yusupov the Vladimir Vici weren't involved in the plot however they were far from sad to hear the news of Reputa- demise in fact after Grand Duke. Dmitri was banished to Persia the Vladimir vici made it clear to the czar that they supported Dmitri's actions. The three brothers were among those who sent a petition. To the czar asking asking for Dmitri's exile to end Nicholas responded by condemning the murder and severing ties with the petitioners including the Vladimir pitchy meanwhile the response among the people is said to have been somewhat mixed some believe that Rasputin murder was an example of the nobility continued Tinubu oppression of the poor since the influential monk was a Serbian peasant before coming to court others however hailed the conspirators As heroes with Rasputin now dead. There was hope that Nicholas could get Russia back on its feet both in the war and at home but but less than a month later it became obvious that was not going to happen. Tension in the streets over food. Shortages and public outcry cry against the war continued to grow and Nicholas seemed unable to grasp the severity of the situation. Many ROMANOFF's new that a change change was needed if the family was going to survive the Vladimir Vici were more than happy to lead that charge. coming up revolution sweeps through Russia and Carol is left with a life changing decision. Now back to the story. At the end of nineteen sixteen members of the Romanov extended family murdered Grigori. Rasputin after years of influencing the czar and his wife. The mad monk was no more. The family hoped that his death would help repair repair the tarnished Romanov name. It didn't not long after rescue death. The Vladimir Vici as well as other Romanovs realize the removal of the monk wasn't enough Russian. Men were being slaughtered by the thousands. Since taking the role of Commander in chief. Sir Nicholas had done nothing to stem the tide. It was clear that he had learned nothing. Since the Russo Japanese war a decade earlier even among the ranks of the Russian army morale was low and mutiny was ran bent when the Vladimir VICI red battle reports they knew achieve change was needed if the Romanovs were to survive a public uprising. The czar had to go. The plot they hatched was to install. Paul Nicholas's son Alexei on the throne because Alexei was only twelve. They would have the widely respected Grand Duke Nicholas Nikolayevich. I of each act as regent until Alexa came of age. However when Grand Duke Nicholas was approached he didn't believe that the people of Russia nor nor the army's required for a coup would support them? It seemed as though the plot was over before it had even begun but the Vladimir VICI quickly came up with a new plan. This one involves bringing Grand Duke Dimitri out of exile from Persia and having him marry the czars oldest daughter Colga once married to the daughter of the current Emperor Grand Duke. Dmitri was to proclaim himself heir apparent however as the Vladimirovich e and other Romanov Grand Dukes plotted word of their treasonous actions. Reach Czar Nicholas's ears. He knew he needed to act fast to secure his throne. That meant the Vladimir VICI had to go in the middle of January nineteen seventeen Jean Nicolas sent Kiel to naval bases along the Arctic Circle. He was to inspect Russia's forces there and give the sailors morale boosting wresting speeches Andrei and his mother Grand Duchess. Marie were sent to Kislovodsk in the Caucasus region. Once they were one thousand four hundred miles away from the capital Nicholas knew that Andre and his mother would have little to no influence in the court. Meanwhile Boris was allowed allowed to stay behind in Petrograd. He was considered to be nothing more than a useless drunk. Nicholas laughed off any possibility that he was a threat. At the beginning of February. Nineteen seventeen czar nicholas was feeling comfortable with the family. mischief-makers occurs subdued. He was finally able to refocus his attention on the war against Germany but when he failed to realize was that his problem was was much bigger than his meddlesome cousins. Not only was the war effort a disaster but the consequences were having a severe effect on Day to day. Russian life because of blockades set up by Germany and the Ottoman Empire. The Russian people were left with little fuel an and even worse little food. In order to survive people began to use fake foods as sustenance. They were forced to purchase items like butter made with Lard or sausage with fake meat but as the war progressed even these methods became unsustainable soon massive bread lines lines formed along the streets and food. Riots broke out unlike surviving palace intrigue. This was a matter of life and death by the beginning ginning of nine thousand nine hundred. Seventeen the revolutionary spirit of Nineteen O. Five was back in the air. At the beginning of March Poodle love metalworkers the same factory that incited the revolution of nineteen. o five went on strike. They demanded a fifty cent raise in wages completely ignoring the the problems. At one of Russia's largest metal factories Nicholas left the capital on March seventh to go to military headquarters and mega love but in ignoring the problem he only added fuel to the revolutionary fire on March Eighth International Women's Day the people of Petrograd Grad received some unexpected good news. The weather was going to be warm. Thousands flocked the streets of Saint Petersburg to praise the role of women in society -ociety while also using the day to demand equal rights. But in the course of morning speeches in general celebrations the attitude among the thousands of protesters changed the speeches turned radical and complaints food shortages and the abysmal war reached a fever pitch by by the afternoon. Roughly Ninety thousand women and men were marching through the streets demanding bread. The call for bread turned into chance chance for an end to the war and the downfall of Nicholas the next day. The number of protesters grew to two hundred thousand the day. After that five hundred thousand the city of Petrograd had completely shut down when czar learned of the civil unrest. He ordered police officers and soldiers to open fire on the protesters and though the police followed the orders many of the soldiers did not got disillusioned with the war and the czar. They realised enough was enough when protesters broke into the barracks of an Imperial Guard Regiment. The soldiers didn't attack them rather they joined the revolt. As the days passed and the chaos didn't end State Duma Chairman Mikhail Mikhail Rods Yanko Telegram Nicholas several times for help he described the events in the city and pleaded for Nicholas to make reforms but Nicholas ignored him. Since the czar wasn't going to take the growing revolution seriously roads GYANCO and the rest of the Duma decided to take matters matters into their own hands. They established a provisional committee as a way to broker peace finally on March Thirteenth Nicholas left his military the headquarters and mega love to return to Petrograd. He believed that his mere presence in the city would be enough to quell the protesters and bring back order order however the provisional government feared that if Nicholas were to see his wife she would convince him not to make reforms or compromises so oh they rerouted his train to school about two hundred miles south of Petrograd. When he got to school he was met by several advisors emerged him to give power over to the Duma Nicholas refused but as the hours progressed even he could see that his reign was Over neither the people of Russia nor the government wanted him. Czar on March Fifteenth Nineteen. Seventeen czar nicholas list the second abdicated the throne. He nominated his brother Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich to take his place that same day. The State Duma quickly put together a provisional government comprised of conservatives liberals and Socialists. The monarchy in Russia was over for Kierell News of the revolution brought with it a sudden and life altering decision to be made he had to choose a side his cousin Nicholas or the Russian people as part of the General Staff. He was still naval guard meaning. He had soldiers under his command command at his word. They could either resist this new provisional government or bend the knee Khuhro weighed the options but it became clear clear to him that there was only one way he could avoid bloodshed. On the same day his cousin abdicated the Throne Keel Vladimirovich wearing during the red color of revolution March to Torres Palace and swore an oath to the new government. He told Duma chairman rods. Yanko this morning. I assembled my men and explain to them the significance of present events and I could now say the whole Naval Guard Corps as at the entire disposal of the imperial Duma. His decision was met with thunderous applause by the members of the new government but within the Royal Royal Family was considered traitor. Many would never forgive him for choosing the mob over family but in reality curiel cereal was thinking of his family. He had two little girls and his wife Victoria was pregnant with their third. He knew that the events unfolding in Petrograd. We're nothing like the failed revolution of nineteen o five. The fact that Nicholas gave up the throne proved as much for his support. The Duma allowed Kiro hero and his family to live in peace as the rest of Russia continued its descent into chaos on March sixteenth. The day after he Abdicated Nicholas went back to mega love to address the Russian army. One final time. Boris Vladimirovich went with him. Even though the relationship between the Vladimir VICI and the czar had deteriorated it was still emotional for Boris to see his cousin look so defeated needed in Kislovodsk. Andre in his mother finally got word of the abdication on March seventeenth at the same time. They learned that Grand Duke. Mikhail Kale had also declined to take the throne Romanov Dynasty was over. Andre wrote in his diary that all all the former grandeur of imperial Russia has collapsed in a single day. It was as if a bolt of lightning had set the royal world on fire here a few days after learning of the Abdication Andrea went to seek help from Grand Duke Nicholas Nikolayevich in tiff. Listen three hundred miles from Kislovodsk. Still wildly popular even as a Romanoff. Many within the family believed that if anyone could stop the revolution it was him but Grand Duke Nicholas wasn't interested. He ordered Andrei to return to his mother and watch over her accepting accepting the order. Andre boarded a train and return to Kislovodsk along the way back. Hundreds train was suddenly stopped. Revolutionaries stormed inside and went from cabin to cabin demanding that people swear oaths of loyalty to the provisional government. Andre Andrei stared down the barrel of pistol as they waited for his response. If he said no he would maintain his family's honour but if he said yes He would live the thought of his mother hearing that he was murdered quickly made his decision for him on March. Twenty Sixth Andrei pledged his loyalty to the provisional government. Two days later while Boris was drinking and his data members of the provisional government stormed in and placed him under arrest compromising letters between him and his mother had been discovered the contents revealed their faith in Grand Duke Nicholas restoring stability. The government felt. The letters were pro Romanov both Boris and his mother. One thousand four hundred miles apart were placed under house arrest. The rest of spring brought immense change in Russia but a division among the outspoken socialist. I ranks made the road to establishing a new permanent government more challenging than many anticipated in April Vladimir Lenin returned learn to Russia from exile and learned that his radical Bolsheviks had toned down some of their rhetoric believing that this could not stand. He published his his April theses. This work called for all bolsheviks to openly defy the provisional government and establish more communist policies though it would take some time to fully have the effect Lennon had intended. It became all too obvious that the spirit of revolution wasn't over invigorated. By Lennon's leadership the Bolsheviks still had fight in them as the Bolsheviks ramped up their revolutionary activities curiel began began to worry about his family's safety especially with Victoria close to giving birth to their third child compared to the rest of his family Kierell had been treated with respect amongst the revolutionaries but should things get worse. Russia was no place for childbirth. He received an invitation from a friend friend to come to Borge Finland until the excitement settled Kierell seriously considered it a former Russian province. Finland was in the midst of declaring its independence from Russia. Hero could be close to his home without actually being in it however it also meant leaving the rest of the Romanovs offs behind communication amongst the family by this point had all but collapsed no Romanoff knew exactly what the others were doing. Plus many were still angry with Kierra for siding with the provisional government three months earlier the choice for Kierell became obvious it was time came to get out of Russia. The Legend of curios escape is that he the very pregnant Victoria and their two daughters trekked through the snow. Oh dangerously cross the frozen Gulf of Finland and made their way out of Russia in reality the family boarded a train out of Petrograd and peacefully crossed into Finland a little over one hundred miles north but cure ills. Escape from. Russia was more prophetic than exciting exciting. He had the foresight to see that revolution in Russia was far from over as the train cut through the Russian countryside. Heading north. One can't help but wonder what was racing through his mind. Did he know that he would never set foot in Russia again or speak to some members of his family we because as revolution turned to civil war Romanoff's would be dying one by one Thanks for listening to survival. Next week will conclude the Harrowing Harrowing Tale of the Vladimirovich E as Boris and Andrei attempt to flee Russia themselves. You can find all episodes of survival and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already. Have all your favorite music but now spotify making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast asked originals like survival for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream survival on spotify just open the APP tap browse and type survival in search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at podcast. Twitter at podcast network. We'll see next time. Survival was created by Max Cutler is production of Cutler media. 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Full Circle Weekly News #161
"This episode covers the sixteen. Th to the twenty second of December Twenty nineteen you're listening to full circle weekly news news items are compiled by arm-free Wall brick and delivered by me your host Leo Chavez. Dax vk one point five released this release full support for denying VK which was a separate project targeting direct x nine games whereas DX vk targets direct x now DX vk supports both the lead developer of decay notes that after this release DX vk is now in maintenance mode as the code base has become a quote maintenance nightmare. There's still plans for new. Volkan extensions but after that the goal is bug fixing only calculate links twenty released in this release calculate drops thirty two bit support but moves to gentiles seventeen dot one as a base and all binary packages have been re compiled with GCC nine dot two most desktop environments are available like Katie E. X. c. But notably gnome plenty of bug fixes like more precise installation size. No freezing on BOOT and better. Ip Detection for bridge devices. Peer Ism announces the Lebron Server. A first appear ISM. The Lebron Server is a one U rack mounted solution that features a disabled Intel management engine Korbut Bios and Lebron key these servers come with eight or sixteen cords. Zeon d fifteen hundred series processors can support up to one hundred and twenty eight gigs of Ram and plenty of storage and land connectivity links men nineteen dot three cinnamon metais an ex. Fcat released this version of Lennox Mint ships with redesigned boot Menus and logos new high DPI support and updates for picks zad ex reader X. View and light dam settings this version also as the hardware enablement features of a boon to eighteen o four dot three which puts the colonel at five DOT O. And X ORG at one dot twenty current users of Nineteen ninety-two can upgrade through a new system reports to or the update manager peppermint. Ten reese been released. This version of peppermint is now based on a boon to eighteen four dot three and that means new hardware enablement with Colonel Five Dot O. And Exit One dot twenty lots of new features. Also make the cut like the cursory siser and Web Browser Manager gooey utilities a peppermint six style hierarchical menu and color themes existing user peppermint ten need only install updates. Alpine Lennox Three dot eleven dot zero released the first in the three hundred eleven zero series this version of the small insecure destroy ships with Lenox. Colonel Five dot four. The supported hardware now includes the raspberry Pi for Alpine also supports Vulcan. Dx VK Ghanem. Katie E. G. W. W sixty four. Rust is also available for all the architectures except for the s three ninety x Credo Receives Epoch Mega grand in a note in their new section creator announces that epic the makers of the unreal game. Engine has given a twenty five thousand dollar mega grant to support their development and make progress more dependable and sustainable jen to adds experimental binary. Colonel Mikhail goodness developer for Gento has been working on a distribution colonel for Genta that would allow users new and old to install pre compiled binary kernel instead of rolling when Manually Michel writes that he has thought out the boot loaders boot layouts configurations in it Ram F S and installation but as gentile does users can create a kernel that follows their own layout this kernel is still experimental. And it is noted that the primary goal is bug hunting Mozilla migrating from IRC to riot in Matrix as explained on Mozilla discourse Mozilla will be migrating to riot and Matrix hosted by modular. I am and in March of twenty twenty shutdown IRC DOT Mozilla dot org. The choice of Matrix was not a snap decision but a four year long inclusive look into communications that took into consideration accessibility and community safety. This been another episode of Full Circle. Weekly News for more news and ramblings find me at Leo Chavez Dot Org Follow me on twitter at Leo Chavis or hear me and my fellow co hosts on mint cast. And I'll see you next week.